Mar 22, 2021 Zoom Board of Architectural Review

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANK YOU FOLKS ARE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOING TO BE JOINING, MAYBE JOINING LATE SO UM YEAH GO AHEAD AND START THE RECORDING PERFECT SO FIRST AGENDA ITEM ACTUALLY IS A REQUEST TO ADJOURN TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE FOR THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURE REVIEW I'M TO DISCUSS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UH I GUESS SOME ISSUES WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEY SO WE, WE WILL BE, I GUESS, I GUESS I'M CALLING A VOTE.

KRISTEN WILSON: ON THE QUESTION YEAH EMOTION FIRST.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH OKAY SO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION DO HAVE A SECOND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM SO I GUESS CALL IT A CALL A VOTE ON THE QUESTION OF A JOURNEY TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION I GUESS BY A SHOW OF EYES, SO I.

ALRIGHT.

KRISTEN WILSON: ALRIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UNANIMOUS EYES, SO WE WILL BE A JORDAN AND WE WILL BE COMING THE THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL BE LEAVING THIS MEETING TEMPORARILY, AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK AT APPROXIMATELY 15 OR SO MINUTES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO WE WILL SEE EVERYBODY THEN THANK YOU.

KERRY LENIHAN: NANCY DO YOU GET INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING NOW.

NANCY PATOTA: NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AM I.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: OFF.

KERRY LENIHAN: YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SIGN LOG OFF AND LOG ON A LOG ON TO SOMETHING ELSE A DIFFERENT MEANING.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO WE'LL JUST GIVE HIM A SECOND TO PORT BACK OVER AND THEN WE'LL LAUNCH RIGHT INTO OUR REGULAR.

AGENDA DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: USE ME MICHAEL I.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: HOW DOES YOUR ARCHITECT FOR 25 ALSO HAS HAD HIS HAND RAISED HE'S TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS HIM.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: OR NOT WHEN YOU'RE DONE AFTER ADDRESSING THE WITH THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SURE THANKS OK, WE HAVE EVERYBODY GREAT THANKS FOR EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M SORRY, OH NO YEAH LEWIS IS NOT ON, YET UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHY DON'T WE WE HAVE A QUORUM WHY DON'T WE ADDRESS ALL THE HANDS SEEMS TO BE GONE OKAY OKAY THANKS WITH YOU THERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN KEEPING EVERYBODY WAITING FOR HALF AN HOUR SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DIVE RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA FIRST UP ON THE MARCH 22 VAR MEETING AGENDA IS 51 PURCHASE STREET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: STARBUCKS NEW SIGNAGE IF YOU'RE HERE FOR 31 PURCHASE STREET PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL ADD YOU TO THE PANEL TO PRESENT YOUR PROJECT.

I'M ALONE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, MARIA.

MARIA ROTUNDO: YES, HI I'M I'M GETTING USED TO THIS ZOOM STOP I GUESS START VIDEO OKAY.

YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO STARBUCKS SIGNAGE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, GREAT.

MARIA ROTUNDO: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SHARE YOUR SCREEN WITH THIS, THE APPLICATION.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH THE BOTTOM OF THE IF YOU HAVE THE APPLICATION INFORMATION UP ON YOUR COMPUTER THERE'S A SHARE SCREEN.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I'M ON MY CELL PHONE I DON'T HAVE A.

MARIA ROTUNDO: COMPUTER AT HOME.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I'M ON MY CELL PHONE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LET'S SEE DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ABILITY TO PULL THE INFORMATION UP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: USUALLY IT'S LOUIS SO SO TYPICALLY.

KRISTEN WILSON: I CAN DO IT IF YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WOULD LIKE YEAH.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I THINK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LEWIS, USUALLY DOWNLOADS ALL THE MATERIALS ON AS OUR IT BACKUP.

MARIA ROTUNDO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH FOR JUST FOR FUTURE MARIA WE THE FOLKS PRESENT THERE YOU KNOW PRESENT THEIR PROJECTS TO.

TO THE BOARD.

MARIA ROTUNDO: YEAH THIS IS FIRST OH LOOK AT THAT.

KRISTEN WILSON: THAT'S NOT SURE JUST TELL ME IF YOU WANT ME TO SCROLL DOWN OR WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO.

NANCY PATOTA: OH ROTATE.

KRISTEN WILSON: ROTATE IT.

KRISTEN WILSON: I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MIGHT JUST BE THAT PHOTO MAYBE WE CAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO I GUESS MARIA WELL, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS CAN YOU JUST.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DESCRIBE DESCRIBE THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NEW PROPOSED PLEASE.

MARIA ROTUNDO: YES, THEY'D LIKE TO REMOVE THE EXISTING SIGNAGE THAT THEY HAVE, I DO HAVE PHOTOS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW, IT SAYS STARBUCKS COFFEE.

MARIA ROTUNDO: UM AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY REFURBISHING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE AND REPAINTING THE BUILDING AND THEY WANT A NEW SIGN TO JUST SAY STARBUCKS.

MARIA ROTUNDO: UM IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW GREEN DURING THE DAYTIME AND THEN HALO LATE AT NIGHT, SO THE LETTERS WILL APPEAR BLACK AND THEY'LL BE A HALO AROUND EACH LETTER.

HMM.

MARIA ROTUNDO: UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND THAT IS REALLY YEAH.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S BETTER IT'S LESS LETTERS SO IT'S SMALLER.

MARIA ROTUNDO: AND IT'S CLEAN.

MARIA ROTUNDO: AND IT'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU YEAH SO WHEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SUBMITTED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT INCLUDES ALL THE INFORMATION REGARDING SIZE COLOR LOCATION ALL THAT.

YES.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LET'S SEE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO PULL IT UP ON MY COMPUTER, UNFORTUNATELY, MOST PEOPLE ARE PREPARED TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND WE REVIEW THE INFORMATION AND OTHERS AND ATTENDING PUBLIC MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO REVIEW THE INFORMATION AS WE, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROJECT, SO THIS IS A BIT UNUSUAL THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY VIEW THE MATERIALS.

MARIA ROTUNDO: WELL YEAH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I I'VE EVER COME UP TO THE YOU KNOW TO THIS ISSUE, I MEAN THAT'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHY, I SAY YOU.

MARIA ROTUNDO: KNOW WHAT I.

MARIA ROTUNDO: DIDN'T REALIZE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SURE, DO YOU REPRESENTING THE SIGN COMPANY OR STARBUCKS.

MARIA ROTUNDO: THE SIGN COMPANY THAT FABRICATES ALL THEIR SIGNS, THEY HAVE ONE COMPANY AND THE COMPANY WE WORK WITH AND THEY SHIP ALL THE SIGNS ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH OKAY.

SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M THERE'S A.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE'S A THERE'S A IN THE FOLDER THERE THERE'S A COLD SIGN RENDERINGS THAT TIME.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: WHERE IT IS UNDERSIGNED RENDERINGS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT PDF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE MY SCREEN BECAUSE I'M ON ONE COMPUTER AND IT BLOCKS THE CITY'S SHAREPOINT SHARE FILE SITE.

MARIA ROTUNDO: SO, HOW WOULD I WOULD I GO ON THE YEAH I'M NOT.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I'M NOT SURE I'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE I DON'T EVEN.

MARIA ROTUNDO: KNOW HOW TO SHARE THE FOLDER.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I ON ONE SIDE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO THE RIGHT THERE WE GO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO WE'RE ON SIGN RENDER YEAH.

MARIA ROTUNDO: OKAY.

MARIA ROTUNDO: THANK YOU, WHOEVER JUST DID THAT I APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE I, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE SIGN THERE, AND YOU JUST WALK US THROUGH EACH PICTURE QUICKLY, PLEASE.

MARIA ROTUNDO: YEAH SO BASICALLY THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING JUST THE LETTERS THAT READ STARBUCKS IN A GREEN.

MARIA ROTUNDO: COLOR THAT THEY USE, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S THEIR COLOR THEIR GREEN.

MARIA ROTUNDO: AND IT'S GOING TO APPEAR TO LOOK LIKE THAT, DURING THE DAYTIME AND AT NIGHT, THE LETTERS WILL LOOK BLACK AND THEY WILL BE HALO LIT LIKE THAT PICTURE.

MARIA ROTUNDO: SO IT'S GOING TO BE A HALO PRETTY MUCH THE OUTER EDGE OF THE LETTER WILL ILLUMINATE AND THE LETTER WILL LOOK BLACK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT YES AND THEN SCROLL DOWN THERE OKAY SO THAT'S THE DEBUT IN THE NIGHT VIEW OKAY.

MARIA ROTUNDO: EXACTLY YEAH AND THE PANEL UM THAT THE LETTERS WILL BE ATTACHED TO IS GOING TO BE THE SAME GREAT COLOR AS.

MARIA ROTUNDO: THE BUILDING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND THE SUN IS JUST GOING ON THE PURCHASE STREET SIDE RIGHT NOT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT YES YEAH.

MARIA ROTUNDO: YEP JUST ONE FACE SHOT, AS YOU SEE IT YEAH.

MARIA ROTUNDO: THEY ONLY WANT ONE SON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS LETTERS ARE 12 INCHES WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE MAX IS THAT CORRECTLY AND ASSUME IS THE IS THE LIGHTING DAWN IS THE LIGHTING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ACCEPTABLE FOR.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: YES.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: BACKLIT WHITE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WOULD JUST LAUGH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, SIR OKAY ANY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE STARBUCK SIGN PROPOSAL.

NOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM ANY ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC I'LL LOUIS'S IN THE IN THE ATTENDEES LIST DAWN CAN YOU ADD THEM OVER TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OUR PANEL, THANK YOU, I GUESS IT GOT STUCK THERE UM ANY ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AROUND THE ABOUT THE STARBUCKS ON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RAISE YOUR HAND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M NOT SEEING ANY SO IT'S APPROVED THANK YOU.

MARIA ROTUNDO: OKAY, THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME OUT.

MARIA ROTUNDO: I APPRECIATE IT HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TAKE CARE I'M NEXT NEXT UP ON THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AGENDA TO 11 PURCHASE STREET.

LOUIS ROLLANO: PUT ME IN AS A.

LOUIS ROLLANO: AS AN ATTORNEY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SORRY I DIDN'T.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DIDN'T STAY THERE UNTIL WE WENT TO THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU BEEN DEMOTED SORRY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I WAS GETTING MOONEY FOUR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO 11 PURCHASE.

DAVID MOONEY: HI CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YES.

YEAH.

DAVID MOONEY: SO THIS IS OUR THIRD MEETING BACK WITH A OR B AND THE LAST MOVIE YOU MENTIONED THE PROJECTS AT 214 TO 16 CENTRAL AVENUE AS A DIFFERENT DESIGN STUDY WHICH WE HAD LOOKED AT, BUT WE TOOK A MUCH CLOSER LOOK AT IT.

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DAVID MOONEY: THE ACCESS TO THE PARKING IS VERY DIFFICULT SITE IS TIGHT.

DAVID MOONEY: THE FRONT UNIT ORIGINALLY IT WAS GOING TO BE A FOR SALE PROJECT, BUT THE FUNDING IT HAS NO OUTDOOR SPACE.

DAVID MOONEY: AND HAS LIMITED ACCESS INTO THE GARAGE AND ALL THAT BEING SAID, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SELL THEM AND THEY TURN THEM INTO RENTAL PROPERTIES SO AFTER YOU STUDY YOUR SITE IS BASICALLY THE SAME WITH YOU DECIDED THAT DOESN'T WORK.

DAVID MOONEY: JUST.

DAVID MOONEY: THAT COME UP YET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S YEAH YES IT'S HAPPENING.

DAVID MOONEY: AND SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS.

DAVID MOONEY: ADD A CUPBOARD PORCH AREA HERE AND SOME COLUMNS TO THE FRONT AS A NOD TO THE DESIGN OF THE PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR HOUSES TO THE TO THE LEFT OF OUR PROPERTY.

DAVID MOONEY: JUST TO BRING IN THAT KIND OF THE MACULAR IN THE STYLE.

DAVID MOONEY: AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

DAVID MOONEY: AND THIS LOT IS ONE OF THE ONLY FEW LIGHTS, IT IS A TWO FAMILY LOT THE BALANCE OF THE LOTS WHICH SOME ARE TO FAMILY.

DAVID MOONEY: ARE ALL PRE EXISTING NON CONFORMING ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT SIDE OF THE STREET SO THERE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ANY DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT SECTION UNLESS SOMEONE BOUGHT LIKE THE PARCEL JUST ABOVE US WHERE THEY DID THE SEVEN UNITS WITH THE CENTER DRIVEWAY.

DAVID MOONEY: AND THE ONLY OTHER LOT THAT IS CURRENTLY FOR SALE THAT COULD BE MULTIFAMILY IS 167 PURCHASE STREET WHICH COULD BE.

DAVID MOONEY: MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE IT HAS 150 FEET OF FRONTAGE.

DAVID MOONEY: AS YOU'D SAID BEFORE THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES ON THE STREET.

DAVID MOONEY: AND THIS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WE HAVE IS THEN DONE THROUGHOUT RIDE.

DAVID MOONEY: AND FEEL IT WORKS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT WORKS FOR THE DEVELOPER, IN TERMS OF HIS HIS DESIGN CONCEPT PROVIDES OUTDOOR SPACE IN THE BACK FOR BOTH UNITS.

DAVID MOONEY: AND HAS.

DAVID MOONEY: TO BE A SURFACE THING KIND OF DECIDE APPROACH THAT THEY DID ON CENTRAL AVENUE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANK YOU, DAVID, SO THE FRONT PORCH AND ON THE FRONT AND THEN THAT WAS THE CHANGE FROM LAST TIME CORRECT.

DAVID MOONEY: RIGHT DADDY AND WE ADDED A COUPLE COLUMNS ON THE LOW LEVEL JUST TO KIND OF PICK UP THAT SAME MOTIF THAT THE OTHER HOUSES HAVE WITH THE FRONT PORCHES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

JIM CORNACCHIA: HOW DEEP SUPPORT.

DAVID MOONEY: THAT COMES OUT ABOUT EIGHT FEET.

DAVID MOONEY: ACCESSIBLE IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, NO ONE CAN GET OUT ON.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YES, SO IT'S IT'S JUST IT'S FOR DECORATIVE.

DAVID MOONEY: DESIGN YEAH GREAT GREAT.

FRANK GADALETA: THERE ANY EFFORT MADE TO TRY TO RECESS THE GARAGE THE GARAGE IS ON EITHER SIDE.

DAVID MOONEY: WE'RE TIGHT ON THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS NOT A SQUARE AND THE SIDE YARD IS DIMINISHING AS YOU GO BACK SO.

DAVID MOONEY: ANYTHING TO PUSH BACK INTO THE BUILDING TO PUSH IT TOWARDS THE REAR CREATES A VARIANCE ISSUE.

FRANK GADALETA: IF YOU WORK TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT FDR.

DAVID MOONEY: YEAH WE'RE BELOW THE MAXIMUM FDR, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THE LAYOUT AND GET WHAT'S IN THE IN THE BUILDING CORRECT.

NANCY PATOTA: AND IT'S THE BIG TREE IN THE FRONT COMING DOWN.

DAVID MOONEY: I WILL BE COMING DOWN.

DAVID MOONEY: IT WILL REALLY BE PROPERLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BUT THE PARKING IS ALL IN THE FRONT YARD NOW SO.

FRANK GADALETA: DAVID, CAN YOU PULL UP THE SITE PLAN FIRST.

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FRANK GADALETA: YEAH YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE CORNER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I GUESS THE RIGHT UPPER RIGHT CORNER, IS WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PUSHING PUSHING MOVING THE LOCATION WOULD.

DAVID MOONEY: SLIDE IN HIS BACK BECAUSE IT'S POPPING LINES, THE MISSION WITH THAT'S CRITICAL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS WITH THE BOARD.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: FAR DOES DO THE GARAGES COME OUT IN RELATIVE TO THE FRONT DOORS.

DAVID MOONEY: 10 FEET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO THE THE PORCH ELEMENT WILL BE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ABOUT TWO FEET INSIDE OF.

DAVID MOONEY: YOU I'LL JUST SIT BACK FROM THIS FACE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS JUST A.

DAVID MOONEY: SMALL SHORT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO THAT THAT PORCH IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT KIND OF IN IN YOU KNOW IN PERSPECTIVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WOULD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE I GUESS THE LOOK OF THE THE THE PERCEIVED DEPTH OF THE GARAGE BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE COLUMNS AND A PORCH MUCH, MUCH CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF THE OF THE GARAGE CORRECT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND YEAH AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR ABOVE RIGHT THE SECOND FLOOR ABOVE YEAH IT'S IT IS SET BACK, BUT YOU HAVE THAT WRONG.

DAVID MOONEY: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOOD QUESTIONS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT AT THIS TIME OKAY I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: JUST GOING TO GO TO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ANYBODY IN MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ASK ANY QUESTIONS AROUND ON THIS APPLICATION HERE, WHICH IS TO 11 PURCHASE STREET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RAISE YOUR HAND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M SEEING NONE UM SO DAVID I MEAN I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOUR OPENING COMMENTS REGARDING THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOKED AT AND THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU MADE, AND THEN REGARDING THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DID INTO THAT AREA AND TO OTHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OTHER DESIGNS I I LIKE THE PORCH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ADDITION A LOT, I THINK THAT THAT IS GOING TO VISUALLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DO A LOT TO KIND OF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW I GUESS TIE THE FRONT TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT MORE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND GIVE THEM THE ECLECTIC NATURE OF THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AREA.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW I LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT HAS GONE.

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FRANK GADALETA: NO, NO.

NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, GREAT DAVID IT'S APPROVED, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOUR CONSIDERATION TO OUR COMMENTS.

DAVID MOONEY: THANK YOU APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO TOO MUCH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TAKE CARE THANKS A LOT I'M EXCELLENT SO MOVING ON TO CENTRAL AVENUE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO 12 CENTRAL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MARK MUSTER COLORADO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PERFECT AREAS.

MARK MUSTACATO: HI HOW ARE YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HEY MARK, HOW ARE YOU HOPE YOUR LEG IS DOING BETTER AND.

MARK MUSTACATO: BETTER LITTLE BY LITTLE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH IT'S ONLY BEEN TWO WEEKS OH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH OKAY.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO I ASSUME YOU SEE THIS HOUSE ON THE SCREEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, YES.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE SAY WE WANT TO GO IN.

MARK MUSTACATO: BASICALLY, PULL THE GARAGE BACK INTO THE HOUSE SO IT'S FLUSH ACROSS THE PORCH.

MARK MUSTACATO: WITH THE FRONT OF THE PORCH.

MARK MUSTACATO: STANDING SEAM ROOF ACROSS THE FRONT.

MARK MUSTACATO: COLUMNS AND RARELY HERE WITH THE LITTLE GABLE OVER THE FRONT DOOR DOUBLE GABLE HERE WITH A LITTLE ACCIDENT WINDOW UP IN THE TOP AND THEN REPEATING THE STANDING SIEBEL HAVE HERE ACROSS THE UPPER.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO THIS IS BASICALLY AN OVERSIZED ONE CAR GARAGE IS A 14 FOOT DOOR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

MARK MUSTACATO: JUST ABOUT IT'S 16 AND A HALF FEET WIDE WHICH ALLOWS FOR A DRIVEWAY THAT'S WIDE ENOUGH TO PART TWO CARS IN WHEN THEY HAVE GUESTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO GET THE PARKING.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A BETTER APPROACH IF WE REALLY NEED TO YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE GARAGE HAS TO BE THE FACE THE FRONT OF ME BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF ALLOW YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO ACCESS IT.

MARK MUSTACATO: RIGHT NOW TAKE YOU THROUGH.

MARK MUSTACATO: RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOUSE AGAIN IT'S A LONG.

MARK MUSTACATO: NARROW HOUSE, SO YOU HAVE THE PORCH.

MARK MUSTACATO: WE HAVE SOME ONE STORY AREAS IN THE BACK JUST KIND OF TRYING TO BREAK IT UP AND THEY HAVE THE LEFT SIDE ELEVATION AS WELL.

MARK MUSTACATO: ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THE ELEVATION READY YET.

MARK MUSTACATO: IT'S KIND OF A LAST MINUTE THING TO GET IN HERE, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN SEE.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: THIS IS ACCEPTABLE.

MARK MUSTACATO: FLOOR PLAN WISE SO AGAIN WE'RE BRINGING THE RIGHT THE HOUSE WITH THE PORCH ALONGSIDE IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO OUR ENTRANCE STAIRCASE NEAR AND THEN OPEN ACROSS THE BACK WITH THE LIVING ROOM THE DINING ROOM FAMILY ROOM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

MARK MUSTACATO: AND WE HAVE THE ONE STORY ARIZONA IN THE BACK THERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO GO BACK TO THE FRONT ELEVATION AIR.

MARK MUSTACATO: AS FAR AS CITING THE HOUSE, WE WERE CENTERING THE HOUSE ORIGINALLY AND ACTUALLY THEN MY CLIENT FOUND THAT IN THE WHEN THIS LAW WAS CREATED, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WAS THAT THEY WOULD HOLD THE A FOOT SET BACK ON THIS SIDE NOW 12 FEET ON ON THE.

MARK MUSTACATO: ON THE RIGHT SIDE, SO WE SHIFTED OVER TO YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I SEE OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I MEAN I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE THE THE CHANGES THAT YOU MADE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND YOU KNOW THE TAKING THE FEEDBACK AND OUR OUR QUESTIONS IN THE CONSIDERATION, SO YOU KNOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I HAVE NO YEAH NO FURTHER COMMENTS, OTHER THAN YOU KNOW THANKS FOR TAKING OUR FEEDBACK AND SURE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

KATHY HOBBINS: ERIC.

FRANK GADALETA: MARCA YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I DISLIKE THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND I REALLY DIDN'T THINK IT FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO.

FRANK GADALETA: I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS HERE I THINK IT'S A HUGE IMPROVEMENT AND WORKS MUCH BETTER THAN.

FRANK GADALETA: THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WITH THE GARAGE YOU KNOW BASICALLY SITTING IN FRONT YARD, SO THANK YOU, IT LOOKS GOOD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO, SO I GUESS WE'LL OBVIOUSLY NEED TO SEE THAT REAR ELEVATION FOR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW, FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL.

OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RIGHT, SINCE WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR, BUT I THINK, BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE GONE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE FROM THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M GUESSING WE CAN'T DO THE REAR ELEVATION VIA SUBCOMMITTEE.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BIG MISSING PIECE, BUT I DON'T KNOW PROCEDURALLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO DO IT VIA SUBCOMMITTEE BUT IT FEELS LIKE ONE TO 25% OF THE ELEVATIONS PROBABLY HAS TO COME BACK ON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO LET ME JUST OPEN UP A I GUESS A LOG SO SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IT WILL HEAR IT AGAIN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW, WE ANY MEMBERS OF PUBLIC CAN COMMENT OR SUBMIT ANY QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO THERE NOW I DON'T EXPECT ANY BUT ANY ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FROM THE MEMBERS OF PAULA FOR TO 12 CENTRAL AVENUE, WHICH WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT MEETING, SO WE CAN SEE THE ALL FOUR ELEVATIONS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M NOT SEEING ANY SO MARK APPRECIATE THE MOVEMENT CONTINUED YES YOU'LL BE FIRST UP ON THE NEXT THE NEXT AGENDA WHEN WE HAVE ALL FOUR OF ELEVATION YEAH SO THANK YOU NEXT TIME, THANKS OKAY UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND FEEL BETTER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE 95 OAKLAND BEACH AVENUE.

MARK MUSTACATO: OKAY, SO I'M HERE FOR THAT ALSO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, OF COURSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO ANY OTHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ATTENDEES HERE FOR 95 OAKLAND BEACH AND IT'S LISTED AS 95, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S 97.

MARK MUSTACATO: CORRECT HOUSE IS YEAH WELL OKAY IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING.

MARK MUSTACATO: BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO JUST GO TO THAT.

MARK MUSTACATO: YEAH IT'S 97 OAKLAND BEACH AVENUE, BUT THE LLC IS 95 OPEN BEACH SAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SOUTH RIGHT CONFUSING PART OF IT OKAY, BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO.

MARK MUSTACATO: LET ME REVERSE THAT IT'S 97 IT WILL SEE NO NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY THAT'S FINE BY I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER APPLICATION ANOTHER PROPERTY AND OTHER APPLICATIONS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TALKING ABOUT AND DISCUSSING WAY PROPERTY SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, THE REAR PROPERTY IS 97 OAKLAND BEACH.

MARK MUSTACATO: YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OR 95 OKAY AH SORRY AND.

MARK MUSTACATO: YOUR PROPERTY IS 97.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, GREAT SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU.

MARK MUSTACATO: KNOW AGAIN REPHRASE IT NO REAL PROPERTY ISN'T ANY FUN SORRY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY THAT'S.

MARK MUSTACATO: 95 JONATHAN CROUTONS GOING TO CHIME IN HERE BUT.

KRISTEN WILSON: COULD ELEVATE JONATHAN CROWD YEAH THANKS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I THINK I SAW A HAND UP I DON'T SEE HIM IN THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IN THE PANELISTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH AND A PANELIST YEAH SO SO MARK, WE KNOW YOU ARCHITECT, WE HAVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: JONATHAN AND JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROJECT, PLEASE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SURE, GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS JONATHAN CROWD I'M A PARTNER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: HARFORD IS CROWD AND PERLSTEIN AND WE REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, I WAS ABLE TO LISTEN, SINCE YOU STARTED, BUT I WAS NOT OBVIOUSLY ABLE TO SPEAK, I JUST WANTED TO REFLECT, FOR THE RECORD THAT THE THE CONTROLLING ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A SECTION BLOCKING A LOT, WHICH IS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: DESK ONE AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE HERE ON AN APPLICATION FOR IS THE REAR PARCEL OF THE TWO THAT HAD BEEN SUBDIVIDED.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND, RATHER THAN STEEL ANY AND MARKS THUMB THAT I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE LAST MEETING I THINK MARK CAN WALK THROUGH BOTH THE DESIGN.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS A REQUEST TO SEE A LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH WE HAD DEVELOPED A LANDSCAPE PLAN.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WAY BACK DURING THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS WHICH WAS PRETTY ROBUST, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPLEMENTED WITH SOME ADDITIONAL PLANTING MATERIALS WHICH MARK.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: CAN ADDRESS, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE FOR SO THE CHAPTER 53 FOR A DECISION THIS EVENING, BUT I THINK WHY DON'T I JUST TURN IT OVER TO MARK AND LET HIM PRESENT THE DESIGN, UNLESS THE CHAIRMAN SEES OTHERWISE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH MARK IF YOU COULD GUESS OUR QUESTIONS WERE RELATED TO THE SITE PLAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND OR LANDSCAPING.

MARK MUSTACATO: YEAH SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED.

MARK MUSTACATO: HOUSE WITH THE DRIVEWAY COMING UP ALONG THE LEFT SIDE HERE, YOU HAD ASKED TO SEE A.

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MARK MUSTACATO: SO THIS IS A COMBINED SITE PLAN, THIS IS THE CORRECT FOOTPRINT AND DRIVEWAY AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THE REAR HOUSE, THIS IS NOT.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS IS NOT A FINAL FOOTPRINT FOR THE FRONT HOUSE, BUT THIS IS WHERE THE HOUSE WOULD BE, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING ENVELOPE HERE IT'S.

MARK MUSTACATO: NOT A FLAT LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WHERE THE HOUSE GOES, SO THIS IS WHERE THE HOUSE WOULD BE, AND THIS IS WHERE THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE MUCH, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES.

MARK MUSTACATO: ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS YOU KNOW WAS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DRIVEWAY SO THIS ONE WILL BE HERE OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND AGAIN THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE REAR HOUSE COMES UP HERE ALONG THE LEFT SIDE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I'M SORRY, COULD YOU JUST ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT COMBINE ONE IF IT IF IT'S SMALL AND OTHER PEOPLE SCREEN BUT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.

SURE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I KNOW YOU INCLUDED A VERSION IN THE.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THIS.

MARK MUSTACATO: IS THIS CLEAR, YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE, THEY THINK THAT WE'RE LOT PRETTY CLEARLY NOW RIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, YEAH THAT'S GOOD THANKS OK.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO AGAIN, AS FAR AS.

MARK MUSTACATO: THE DRIVEWAYS IN THE FRONT HOUSE AGAIN IT'S NOT DESIGNED YET COMPLETELY, BUT THIS IS WHERE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE WILL BE.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS OUTLINE RIGHT HERE IS THE BUILDING ENVELOPE SO.

MARK MUSTACATO: OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES IT'S GOING TO GO.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS DRIVEWAY COMES UP ON THE LEFT SIDE HERE AND THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE FINAL OUTCOME HERE ALONG THE RIGHT.

MARK MUSTACATO: THAT'S A DEFINITELY WHETHER ITS OWN CARD DRIVEWAY OR TWO CAR WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT.

MARK MUSTACATO: IT WILL BE ALONG THE SIDE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SORRY HOUSE, I CAN TAKE IT TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH JUST ONE ONE QUESTION WAS THE THE THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DRIVEWAYS WAS IT CONSIDERED TO HAVE ONE, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF THESE FLAG LOTS.

MARK MUSTACATO: OF REASONS IS GREAT.

MARK MUSTACATO: REALLY REALLY TOUGH TO IT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YEAH I MEAN, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS WELL MARKER IT WAS OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT THAT GETS DISCUSSED DURING TO LOTS OF DIVISIONS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND ACTUALLY INTERESTING AND RYE THE HISTORY HAS OFTEN BEEN WITH COMBINED DRIVEWAYS WAS FLAG LOTS THEY'VE OFTEN COME BACK IN FOR RE SUBDIVISION FOR BIFURCATED DRIVEWAYS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT IN ANY EVENT GRADING DRAINAGE AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WERE TAKING IT TO EFFECT AND, ULTIMATELY, THIS WAS THE THE PREFERRED DRIVEWAY CONFIGURATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

OKAY.

MARK MUSTACATO: YOU WANT ME TO TAKE YOU BACK TO THE HOUSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE LANDSCAPE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PLAN UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LET'S JUST QUICKLY REVISIT THE HOUSE AND I THINK, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE WITH THAT CONTEXT, MY NEXT.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION AGAIN.

MARK MUSTACATO: CABLE ROOMS FACING THE FRONT MATERIALS WILL BE CEDAR METAL SIDING, WHICH IS WHY, FOR THE MAIN BODY OF THE HOUSE IS IN CASE MY WINDOWS SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHTS.

MARK MUSTACATO: WE WERE STANDING SEAM COPPER LET GO THE CAPITAL FOR THE ENTRANCE AND STANDING SEAM LINE COATED COPPER FOR THE ONES THAT HAVE.

MARK MUSTACATO: ONE STORY CONNECTING PIECE HERE THAT CONNECTS THE GARAGE THE GARAGE WILL ALSO BE LIGHT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERTICAL V GROOVE SIDING AND AGAIN WE HAVE A SMALL ACCIDENT WITH THE SAME LIKE COATED COPPER OVER THE FRONT WINDOWS HERE STONE IN YOUR CHIMNEY BACK AS WELL CHAMBER TIMBERLINE.

MARK MUSTACATO: COMING AROUND TO THE SIDE OH HOLD ON A SECOND JIMMY AGAIN INSTEAD OF GOING AROUND.

MARK MUSTACATO: RIGHT SIDE SO AGAIN, YOU SEE THE STONE VIDEO CHIMNEY THERE.

MARK MUSTACATO: YOU HAVE A ONE STORY SECTION BELOW PAGE GROWTH THAT IN THE BACK AGAIN HAS THE STANDING SAME ROOF HERE OVER BY THE MUSHROOM.

MARK MUSTACATO: SOME DOORS OUT SOON STEPS OUT TO A PATIO WHICH WILL BE A PATIO ON GRADE, AND THEN WE HAVE OVER AT THE MUD ROOM SECTION HERE A LITTLE SIDE PORCH WITH STAINLESS STEEL CABLE RAILS AND THAT HAS AN ENTRANCE FROM THE BEDROOM DOOR OUT TO THE SIDE, SO THAT, FROM THE DRIVE WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS.

MARK MUSTACATO: TO THE FLOOR PLANS YOU WANT TO SEE THEM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: REAL QUICK THE PITCH OF THE ROOF IS THAT 12 ON 12.

MARK MUSTACATO: THE THE.

MARK MUSTACATO: GAME IS MISSING THE FRONT OR 12, AND THIS IN THE BACK SO THESE ARE TELEVISED BALLS.

MARK MUSTACATO: THE MAIN ROOF IS A NINE AND 12.

MARK MUSTACATO: AND THEN, THIS ACCENT FROM THE BANK HERE, THESE ARE 12 AND 12 AWESOME SO THIS MAIN RIFF IS A NINE AND 12 AND ONE FROM FRONT TO BACK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YEAH AND WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A FAIRLY STANDARD PITCH OR STEEP OR SHALLOW.

OR.

MARK MUSTACATO: I SEE FAIRLY STANDARD WE USUALLY DON'T LIKE TO BE BELOW EIGHT.

MARK MUSTACATO: HE HASN'T GOT A REAL RESTRICTION.

BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD.

MARK MUSTACATO: YEAH YOU THINK THE NINE YOU KNOW AGAIN LOOKING AT AS A PRETTY GRACEFUL IT CREATES ATTIC AREA, THE ACCOUNTS IN THE FDR WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG ENOUGH THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO DO THAT SO YEAH YOU KNOW WHEN WE CAN GET A STEEPER PITCH ON AND WE PREFER TO.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

JIM CORNACCHIA: BUT THAT'S JUST ATTIC SPACE THERE'S NO.

MARK MUSTACATO: YEAH THERE'S NOTHING THERE RIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT OKAY GREAT SECTION.

MARK MUSTACATO: IS A CROSS SECTION AND SEE THE SECTION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH OKAY, SO THAT SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL ATTIC GOT IT OKAY OKAY.

MARK MUSTACATO: READ THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH JUST JUST PAUSE THERE FOR A SECOND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE OF THE HOUSE SO FAR.

KATHY HOBBINS: NO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, OBVIOUSLY, THAT I'M RECRUITING MYSELF FROM THIS PROJECT.

KATHY HOBBINS: OKAY, THANKS GUYS AND WE KNOW.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WE JUST FOR THE RECORD, GET THE REASON FOR THE REFUSAL.

KATHY HOBBINS: BECAUSE I'M A NEIGHBOR.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALL RIGHT, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THANKS GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON ARCHITECTURE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: SO I JUST WANT TO REVISIT THE ROOF AGAIN THE REASONING, FOR NOT REDUCING THE ROOF SURFACE IS WHY.

MARK MUSTACATO: WELL, WE WANT TO, I WANT TO HAVE DO THESE 1212 ROOFS IN FRONT OF THE CONSUMER RIGHT LOOK I WANT THEIR REGIONS TO ALIGN.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO THAT KIND OF LEADS ME TO THE NINE AND 12.

MARK MUSTACATO: AND AGAIN, I SAID I TYPICALLY WE REALLY WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE A ROOF UNDER EIGHT AND 12 SO.

MARK MUSTACATO: IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE TO GO FROM EIGHT TO NINE AND IT'S I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT LOOK AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS ME CFR REQUIREMENT, SO IT CREATES A MEDIC SPACE THAT YOU KNOW COUNTS ON THE FLY BUT IT DOESN'T DOESN'T HURT AS A LOT OF SPEAKING, IF WE CAN AFFORD TO DO IT.

MARK MUSTACATO: THE NEXT PRETTY MUCH YOU KNOW IT'S DRIVEN BY BY THE AESTHETICS BY THE FRONT LOOK AT THE HOUSE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: RIGHT, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE, THIS IS HIGHER UP ON THE SITE CORRECT.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS IS THIS BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTIES HIRED IN THE FRONT, YES RIGHT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: SO THIS HOUSE WOULD BE TOWERING OVER THE OTHER HOUSE IS SURROUNDING IT.

MARK MUSTACATO: WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY TRUE IT'S IT'S ABOVE THEIR HOUSE THAT WOULD BE IN FRONT AND THE TOWERS OVER THE OTHER HOUSES TAKE THE OTHER PROPERTIES SLOPE UP AS WELL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT'S ALL.

MARK MUSTACATO: THREE I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH WELL, I THINK, IF YOU TAKE A CIRCLE AROUND THIS HOUSE THERE'S THERE'S PROPERTY SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW IT ANYBODY WHO'S WHO'S VISITED THOSE AREAS WOULD OBVIOUSLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BE ABLE TO APPRECIATE THAT SO SO YEAH, SO I THINK THAT, SO IT MEETS HEIGHT REQUIREMENT MEETS FA IR AND THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS TO THE MIDPOINT OF THE ROOF CORRECT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RIGHT YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO LOWERING OR RAISING THE PITCH MOVES THE HEIGHT UP OR DOWN THE THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YEAH I MEAN, I THINK THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I MEAN THE I ASKED ABOUT THE ROOF, BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW IT IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FAIRLY YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S TALL LOOKING AND WHICH IS YOU KNOW I THINK NORMALLY YOU KNOW DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC ISSUES WITH YOU KNOW TALL LOOKING, BUT I THINK GIVEN WHERE THE HOUSE IS LOCATED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LOOKS YOU KNOW JUST THINKING ABOUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ASKING I GUESS ASKING ABOUT WHAT CONSIDERATIONS WERE MADE, GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THE HOUSE ON A HILL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE AND I GUESS THE THE THE DESIGN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PRIORITIZE THE THE ROOF PITCH AESTHETICS FOR AESTHETIC REASONS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, THAT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: OKAY, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO TAKE THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE OVERALL SITE PLAN AND THE SITE PLAN IS PLACING THIS HOUSE ON A HIGHER ELEVATION IN.

JIM CORNACCHIA: IN RELATION TO ITS PEERS, SO IF IF YOU WANT TO TALK AESTHETICS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE ROOFLINE IS TOO TALL.

JIM CORNACCHIA: IN CONTEXT WITH THE SURROUNDING.

JIM CORNACCHIA: ELEMENTS AND IN CONTEXT WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

AND MARK MUSTACATO: AGAIN, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE OF THE SITE SO.

MARK MUSTACATO: AROUND THE HOUSES.

MARK MUSTACATO: IN THE CENTER FLAG LOTS AND LOTS OF WAY, THIS IS THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR THAT'S THE CLOSEST TO IT, BECAUSE THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEHIND THIS HOUSE AND YOU'RE NOT THAT CLOSE TO THESE THOUSANDS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: RIGHT NOW, I VISITED THE SITE I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AND I CAN'T SEE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: HOW THIS HOUSE WOULD NOT BE PERCEIVED AS TOWERING OVER THE OTHER HOUSES.

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CHRISTINE BROESTTL: IF YOU CHANGE THE PITCH OF THE ROOFLINE FROM.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: WHAT YOU HAVE NOW NINE OVER 12 TO EIGHT OVER 12 WHAT WHAT.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: HOW MUCH WOULD THAT CHANGE THE HEIGHT OF THAT.

MARK MUSTACATO: WOULD DROP THE RICH ABOUT 16 INCHES OF SOUND.

OKAY.

MARK MUSTACATO: AND ALSO WITH WITH GABLE ROOF, YOU KNOW TO ME THEY ALWAYS LOOK TALLER.

MARK MUSTACATO: IN AN ELEVATION BECAUSE THERE'S ROOM FOR SLOPING AWAY FROM YOU, SO I CAN SEE THAT.

MARK MUSTACATO: IN THE SAME.

MARK MUSTACATO: PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE GROUND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH IF FAIR POINT FOR THE ROUTE THAT SLIPPING AWAY, BUT OBVIOUSLY FOR THE ENDS AND THE SIDES THAT'S A YOU KNOW THE WALL, BECAUSE ALL THE UP SO UM OKAY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ROOF FOR THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO, I JUST.

FRANK GADALETA: I JUST WANT TO SAY I TEND TO AGREE WITH JIM I MEAN THE HOUSE ITSELF IS.

FRANK GADALETA: IT'S A IT'S A LARGE HOUSE FOR THAT SITE AND FOR THE FOR THE AREA, AND I THINK THE HEIGHT JUST AMPLIFIES THE SCALE OF THE HOUSE, COMPARED TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD RECONSIDER.

FRANK GADALETA: IF YOU VISIT THE SITE, YOU KNOW FROM SOME OF THE LOWER PROPERTIES IT'S IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY MASSIVE AS YOU LOOK UP THERE.

FRANK GADALETA: I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD NOT IMPAIR.

FRANK GADALETA: YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WILL ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT YOU KNOW I LIVE OVER ON MIDLAND AND, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLAG LOT ON ON FOREST, I BELIEVE I BROUGHT THIS UP AT LAST MEETING.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YOU KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A FLAG LOCK THAT SPLIT TWO LARGE HOUSES WERE PLACED ON IT, BUT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: CONTEXTUALLY IT'S A RELATIVELY FLAT LOT IN THAT HOUSE IT'S BEHIND IS SET FAR FAR ENOUGH BACK WHERE YOU REALLY CAN SEE THE IMPACT WITH THE OTHER SURROUNDING HOUSES, I STILL BELIEVE IT'S.

JIM CORNACCHIA: IT'S NOT AN IDEAL APPLICATION, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A BETTER ONE THAN WHEN I COMPARE IT TO TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION UM.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I BELIEVE THAT THE HOUSES ARE TOO BIG, WELL, I CAN'T SAY I CAN SAY IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS APPLICATION, I BELIEVE THE HOUSE IS TOO LARGE FOR ITS SURROUNDING.

JIM CORNACCHIA: PEERS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: AND THE HEIGHT DOESN'T HELP IT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THE HEIGHT IS WORKING AGAINST IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YEAH I AGREE MARK THE I KNOW THE OTHER APPLICATION ISN'T BEFORE US, BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HOW MUCH HIGHER IS THIS PROPERTY FINISHED FLOOR THAN FIRST FIRST FINISHED FOR THAN THE THE YOU KNOW OTHER PROPERTY OH THERE WE GO.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS IS NINE FEET HIGHER.

MARK MUSTACATO: YEAH A FOOT NINE HIGHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ABOUT OKAY APPROXIMATELY A FULL STORY HIGHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAN THAN THE SUM OF THE REAR HOUSE SO ALL ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU WOULD SEE THE THE REAR HOUSE BEHIND ABOVE.

THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SO IT'S NINE FEET ABOVE THAT PROPERTY AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW, WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY HAVE A.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WELL, THAT WAS ASKED FOR IN THE LAST MEETING I REQUIRE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE CONTEXTUALLY THESE TWO HOUSES.

MARK MUSTACATO: WELL, AS WHY I GAVE YOU THIS RIGHT WE DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE FRONT OF HOUSE DESIGN YEAH NOT THE FINAL DESIGN WHEN I READ.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THAT DOESN'T FROM AN AESTHETIC VIEW, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR ME.

MARK MUSTACATO: WELL, CAN YOU.

JIM CORNACCHIA: GIVE ME ANYTHING ELSE WE DON'T HAVE A FAN OF DESIGNER.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OR WILL HOLD ON ONE SECOND MR CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUST ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR A MINUTE AS JUST A MATTER OF PROCESS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I, AND I UNDERSTAND THE THE THE REQUEST TO SEE THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE HAS NOT YET BEEN DESIGNED BECAUSE IT'S ON THE JASON LOT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND IT'S NOT DESIGNED YET IT'S NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION AND IT'S NEVER BEEN REQUIRED BEFORE I MEAN WE'VE HAD SUBDIVISION AFTER SUBDIVISION AWRY WHICH YOU KNOW IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER THEM BECAUSE THEY.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: FOR MOST PART WE'RE FULLY SUBDIVIDED COMMUNITY, BUT THE JASON LOT AND THE NEXT HOUSE COMING DOWN IT GETS LOOKS LOOKED AT CONTEXTUALLY.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE THEIR VIEWPOINTS, I KNOW THAT FRANK JUST VOICE TIS JIM AS WELL AS TO THE HEIGHT, I THINK WE CAN.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: HAVE DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS, I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK NO FURTHER THAN OAKLAND BEACH AVENUE, ON THE OTHER SIDE GOING UP TOWARDS FOREST TO SEE HOUSES THAT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: EASILY ME WOULD HARD TO BE SAY IT WOULD BE HARD TO NOT SAY THAT THEY TOWERED OVER THE HOUSE THAT WAS DOWNHILL FROM THEM.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT IS HOW OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, THE SAME IS TRUE ON HILL STREET THE SAME IS TRUE, YOU MENTIONED MIDLAND AND YOU.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: GO DOWN MIDDLE AND AVENUE NEAR PLAYLAND PARKWAY WHAT YOU'LL SEE OUR HOUSES ON BULKELEY IN THE BACK STREETS UP OFF THE RIDGE TOWERING DOWN OFF OF HOUSES THAT ARE A MILLON.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND THOSE MAY ALL BE GOOD POINTS THAT ANOTHER DAY RIGHT SHOULD DEVELOP A SKYPE LATE ORDINANCE OR HAVE RULES ABOUT HOUSES THAT ARE NEXT DOOR TO HOUSES THAT ARE DOWN, LOWER.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUT WE DO NOT, AND WE HAVE A ZONING COMPLIANT APPLICATION FRONT OF THE BOARD AND I'M HAPPY TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION OR EVEN CRITICISMS OF.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MARCH ARCHITECTURAL THOUGH YOU KNOW I THINK HIS ARCHITECTURE IS PRETTY GOOD MYSELF BUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW WE'RE HERE UNDER CHAPTER 53 FOR FOR A DECISION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE THERE IS TO SAY, I THINK IT'S BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT YOU DON'T LIKE AS A BOARD OR AS INDIVIDUALS, THE SIZE OF IT BUT ZONING COMPLIANT AND WE'RE NOT HERE TO SIMPLY CRITICIZE BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE SIZE, ETC, SO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I GUESS I'D MAKE THIS IN THE FORM OF A REQUEST TO THE CHAIRMAN, THAT THE THE WEATHER, THERE IS CONSENSUS OR NOT, THAT YOU ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE ADVOCATE IS BEFORE YOU WITH THE HOUSE THAT THEY'VE DESIGNED AND CHOSEN TO PRESENT TO YOU, SO THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME FOR A MOMENT OR TWO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT SO ANY OTHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE ARCHITECTURE BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.

JIM CORNACCHIA: NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY WELL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: CAN WE YEAH SO LANDSCAPING PLAN, PLEASE MARK, THANK YOU.

MARK MUSTACATO: OKAY, SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING AND WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S.

MARK MUSTACATO: THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED.

MARK MUSTACATO: TO THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN, THIS IS QUITE A BIT MORE ROBUST THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION.

MARK MUSTACATO: AND WHAT THERE WERE TWO TREES THAT CAME DOWN AS PART OF THE DURING THE DURING THE BLASTING THEY WERE FELT TO BE UNSAFE AND.

MARK MUSTACATO: RATHER THAN HAVING FOIL ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY, THEY WERE TAKEN DOWN SO TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT THERE ARE FOUR SUGAR MAPLES PROPOSED CENTER TRYING TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP EVERYBODY YEP SCROLL OVER HERE.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO THESE ARE SIX INCH DIAMETER SUGAR MAPLE SO THESE ARE REALLY SUBSTANTIAL TREES SO THERE'S TWO HERE IS ANOTHER ONE HERE AND ANOTHER ONE HERE, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME NORWAY'S BRUCE'S HERE FOR SCREENING WITH SOME VIBURNUM SORT OF JUST KIND OF SOFTEN THAT SOMEWHAT.

MARK MUSTACATO: AROUND THESE IN FRONT OF THESE SUGAR MAPLES COMES A ROW OF AGAIN SOME AND ALWAYS BRUCE HERE IN SOME LOWER ARM PROVIDES HERE AND THEN SOME.

MARK MUSTACATO: GREEN JUNIPER PLANTINGS HERE.

MARK MUSTACATO: SOME FOR BUYING FOR BUYING THEM AGAIN OVER HERE ANOTHER NORWAY SPRUCE HERE.

MARK MUSTACATO: FOR BURNHAM AGAIN OVER HERE, AND THESE ARE SOME GREEN GIANT OUR PROVIDERS ALONG THIS PROPERTY.

MARK MUSTACATO: A RED MAPLE HERE, WHICH IS A NICE, YOU KNOW X ENTRY HOLLY AND SOME BOXES HERE IS FOUNDATION PLANTINGS.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS PICTURE OF A MIXTURE OF ISRAEL, USING FOXWOODS AND ROSES HERE FOR THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS AND THEN ALONG THE SIDE AGAIN YOU HAVE SOME JENNIFER'S.

MARK MUSTACATO: SOME RED CEDARS AND SOME ARE PROVIDERS SO MIXING UP YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A.

MARK MUSTACATO: BLANK WALL OR A SCREEN OF SOLDIERS IN WAR FIGHTERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IT'S A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT PLANTINGS THAT WILL PROVIDE A NICE.

MARK MUSTACATO: PRIVACY SCREEN HERE IN THE PRIVACY SCREEN ALONG HERE, ALONG WITH SOME DECIDUOUS TREES THAT WILL HAVE SOME COLOR AND SOME MAJOR TREES IN THE BACK HERE THAT'LL GIVE SOME SCREENING AND SOME SURPRISES TO THE PROPERTY.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IT WAS DISCUSSED THE LOCATIONS OF THE HAS IS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: PARTICULARLY I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS ONE, THE BACKLOT AND THE LOCATION AND SPECIES SELECTION, WITH REGARD TO LANDSCAPING WITH DUE CONSIDERATION FOR A.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BUNNY PROPERTIES AND IMPROVING THE SIDELINES LOOKING UPWARD AT THE HOUSE, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WENT THROUGH AN ITERATIVE PROCESS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE A LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT I THINK WILL WILL BE WILL BE QUITE QUITE GOOD.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND, AND THE ONE THING I WOULD ALSO ADD, IS THE CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCING WHILE OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT PART OF YOUR REVIEW PER VIEW I WILL VOLUNTEER TO YOU THAT THE SEQUENCING ON THIS SITE IS, IN FACT, TO BEGIN INSTALLING THE LANDSCAPING UPON YOUR HOPEFULLY YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SO THAT THE THE MATERIAL, THE LANDSCAPE MATERIAL WILL TAKE ROOT AND AT THE SAME TIME ALSO BEGIN, PROVIDING THAT SCREENING RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANK YOU FOR THAT EDITION OF MARK OR JONATHAN THE HEIGHT, DO YOU CAN YOU JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE PARTICULARLY ON THE LEFT, I GUESS, WELL, I GUESS, JUST THE HEIGHT AT PLANT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: STARTING ON THE RIGHT SIDE ADJACENT TO THE HOUSE HOW TALL WOULD THOSE BE.

MARK MUSTACATO: WHEN PLAN ON OUR SIDE.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS IS A 78 FOOT TALL HOLLY.

MARK MUSTACATO: THESE TREES ALONG HERE.

MARK MUSTACATO: SIX TO SEVEN FOOT HIGH.

MARK MUSTACATO: GREEN JUNIPER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED OR.

MARK MUSTACATO: WHEN YOU PLANT.

MARK MUSTACATO: THE RED MAPLE IS A THREE TO THREE AND A HALF INCH CALIPER SO WITH THE DECIDUOUS TREES THEY'RE.

MARK MUSTACATO: THEY'RE DESCRIBED BY THE AMATEUR AS OPPOSED TO HEIGHT.

MARK MUSTACATO: SO THREE TO THREE AND A HALF INCH TREE IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 10 FEET TALL I WOULD GUESS.

MARK MUSTACATO: LIKE AGAIN, THESE ARE THE MAJOR YOU KNOW THE SUGAR MAPLES THAT HAVE SIX INCH TALL SIX INCH CALIPER AND THAT'S A 16 INCH DIAMETER TREE SO THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL TREE IT'S PROBABLY I MEAN I HAD TO GUESS AT LEAST 15 FEET TALL PROBABLY.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: TOTALLY I MEAN I WAS GONNA SAY PROBABLY EVEN PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT THOSE ARE MACHINE MOVE TREES, THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE YOU KNOW WE REALLY WANT TO GET GOING HERE ON THAT FRONT IS THEY DO GET.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SPAYED AND ONCE IT GETS BEYOND THE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO TRANSPLANT GETS RESCUE SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE BIG TREES.

MARK MUSTACATO: HMM AGAIN JUST TO CONTINUE THAT, LIKE THE NORWAY SPRUCE HERE IS A 10 FOOT WHEN PLANTED AGAIN EACH OF THE NORWAY'S PIECES OF THAT HEIGHT, SO THAT INCLUDES THE ONES BACK HERE HERE AND HERE.

MARK MUSTACATO: AGAIN, THESE ARE SIX TO SEVEN FOOT TALL, THESE ARE REALLY JUST KIND OF LOWER SCREENING SO THEY'RE ABOUT FOUR FEET TALL WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED.

MARK MUSTACATO: YEAH CEDARS OR SEVEN TO EIGHT FEET TALL ALONG HERE.

SO.

MARK MUSTACATO: HE'S A 67.

MARK MUSTACATO: AND LITTLE BIT OF A MIXTURE OF IT'S NOT JUST ALL THE SAME HEIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH NOW THAT'S HELPFUL THOSE THOSE GREEN JUNIPERS HOW SIX TO SEVEN I THINK HE SAID.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HOW TALL IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GROW IS THAT MUCH TALLER THAN THAT OR NOT.

MARK MUSTACATO: I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHICH WAY WHICH ONES YOU'RE POINTING TO.

MARK MUSTACATO: THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREEN JUNIPER YEAH HOW TALL ARE THOSE GET.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YES, THEY CAN GET SIGNIFICANT AND HEIGHT, I MEAN THEY CERTAINLY OVER TIME, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER A HOMEOWNER CHOOSES TO TRIM THEM OR NOT, BUT THEY CERTAINLY CAN GET DOUBLE THE HEIGHT IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GROW WE'RE POINT TO THE THE GREEN GIANT ARBELAEZ MARK.

MARK MUSTACATO: THOSE ARE ACROSS THE BACK HERE OKAY.

MARK MUSTACATO: AND THEN.

MARK MUSTACATO: SEVEN EIGHT FEET TALL THOSE WILL GROW TO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THOSE ARE ACCELERATED GROWTH USUALLY AFTER THE FIRST YEAR THEY GROW AS MUCH AS A FOOT AND A HALF TO TWO FEET IN A YEAR.

SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: QUESTION FROM THE BOARD.

FRANK GADALETA: I JUST HAVE A COMMENT IN WHEN I WAS VISITING THE SITE AND MAYBE, MARK YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IT APPEARED LIKE THEY.

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FRANK GADALETA: BUILT SO.

MARK MUSTACATO: I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

FRANK GADALETA: YEAH MARK MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT OR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I CAN'T FRANK, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT VIEWPOINT, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THE ACTIVITIES OF TAKING PLACE ON THE SITE, BUT WHAT I WILL TELL YOU.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IS THAT THE SUBDIVISION PLAN ITSELF AS REVIEWED, AS APPROVED AND HAS FILED REQUIRED THE GRADING AND RETAINING AS IT IS SO THAT MIGHT BE YOUR ANSWER, BUT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: CERTAINLY TALK TO THE VOLUME APARTMENT ABOUT IT NORMALLY SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF A SUBDIVISION PLAN, WHETHER IT BE CURBING LIGHTING RETAINING WALLS WHEN THEY BECOME A CONDITION OF THE PLANT THAT ACTUALLY HAS TO HAPPEN.

FRANK GADALETA: UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WHAT IS THAT RETAINING WALL ULTIMATELY GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS, THIS IS A DRY STONE WALL EACH OF THESE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND OBVIOUSLY THAT RETAINING WALLS NOT GOING TO BE SEEN FROM A ANOTHER VIEWPOINT, OTHER THAN.

MARK MUSTACATO: JUST PROPERTIES HIGHER BACK HERE SO WELL.

FRANK GADALETA: WELL, NO, BUT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT.

MARK MUSTACATO: IS DEFINITELY YEAH.

FRANK GADALETA: I MEAN, I SAW THAT'S WHY I NOTICED IT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YEAH NOW THAT ONE I THOUGHT IT WAS POINTING TO THE ONE OF THE BACK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO YEAH GOOD GOOD CATCH THERE, SO THOSE WALLS ARE HOW HIGH AGAIN.

MARK MUSTACATO: FOUR FEET FOUR FEET HIGH THIS IS FOR A.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHILE IN THE BALANCE YEAH YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND THAT'S FOUR FEET HIGHER THAN THE GREAT THAT'S THERE CURRENTLY OR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, SO OKAY, SO, IN ADDITION TO THE HILL THAT'S ALREADY BACK THERE IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO FOUR FEET HIGHER.

MARK MUSTACATO: PORTIONS GETTING CUT DOWN AND THEN WE'RE LEVELING IT OUT SOMEWHAT SO WE'RE.

MARK MUSTACATO: FILLING THIS ALONG.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I GUESS THIS CORNER THE RIGHT HAND CORNER THERE WEATHERS TO RETAIN THIS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OKAY.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WELL HELLO MARK.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MARK IF YOU COULD JUST PUT YOUR CURSOR.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ON THE CORNER, WHERE THE TOP OF THE WALLS AT 34 RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER MM HMM OKAY THAT THAT WALL AND THE SECTION IN THAT AREA WAS A WAS A CONVENTION AND A DESIGN CHANGE AND OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE TO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OUR APPLICATION HERE FROM THE HOUSE BUT, FOR YOUR INFORMATION WAS OCCASION BY CONCERNS OF DOWNGRADING AND NEIGHBORS WHO HAD EXISTING WATER ISSUES.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEING INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE INTERCEPTED WHAT OTHERWISE, WITH OR WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WOULD HAVE BEEN SURFACE WATERS FLOWING TO THE LOWER PROPERTIES.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND ALLOWED US TO TO CAPTURE THEM AND KEEP THEM ON SITE, ULTIMATELY, MAKING THIS SITE, AN IMPROVEMENT OVER EXISTING SURFACE WATER RUNOFF TO LOWER GRADIENT PROPERTY SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS AT LEAST THE GENESIS WASN'T SIMPLY THE TESTIMONY OF A LITTLE WALL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEP GREAT SO DO WE HAVE A VIEW OF THOSE WALLS, YOU KNOW ELEVATIONS OF THOSE WALLS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE CAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU.

MARK MUSTACATO: KNOW WE DON'T.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: KNOW YOU DON'T OKAY SO THERE'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND I'D SAY AND IT'S THE THE REAR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY FACING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THEN THE CORNER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RIGHT HAND CORNER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE ON TWO SIDES THERE THAT'S FACING I GUESS A WAVE FACING OUT, I GUESS, YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH GOT IT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WILL ALSO LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A WALL IS IT, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY ON THE LOWER PART.

JIM CORNACCHIA: ON THE DRIVEWAY LEADING UP.

MARK MUSTACATO: THIS THIS IS THIS, THIS WILL WILL BE ON THIS WILL BE A WALL THAT'S ON THE LOWER PROPERTY.

MARK MUSTACATO: IT'S ACTUALLY SO THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THAT WAS PROPOSED IT'S ON THE LOWER PROPERTY, NOT ON THIS PROPERTY.

MARK MUSTACATO: AGAIN THAT'S.

JIM CORNACCHIA: HOW HIGHLY.

MARK MUSTACATO: THAT WALL AT THIS POINT, RIGHT HERE, I MAY ONLY SEE IT RIGHT HERE IS ABOUT FIVE FEET HIGH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SO THE POINT OF THIS PROPERTY YEAH SO, BUT THIS THE SITE PLAN AND THE DRIVEWAY AND THE THE YARD OF THIS SITE IS DEPENDENT ON FUTURE RETAINING WALLS AND AND GRADING ETC, AND SO FORTH, FOR THE OTHER PROPERTY IS THAT.

MARK MUSTACATO: YEAH THAT'S INTERESTING SO THIS WAS PART OF THE APPROVED SUBDIVISION SO WOULD BE BUILT.

MARK MUSTACATO: AS PART OF IT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AS THE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IF THE SITE, THE.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AS FAR AS THE STONE THERE IT'S IT'S LARGELY JUST THE NATIVE NATIVE NATIVE DRY STACK STONE NATURAL ROCK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: REMOVING IT FROM YEAH I MEAN I CAN I CAN TRY TO PICTURE THAT BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW WE'RE CHARGED WITH THE AESTHETICS, AND IF THERE'S NO PICTURE OF IT, I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I'M IMAGINING IT CORRECTLY, SO, OH NO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I CAN TAKE THAT ALL FOR YOUR BACK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT APPLYING FOR THE WAS TODAY, AND IF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR BELIEVES THAT, IN SPITE OF THEM BEING REQUIRED BY THE PLANT THAT WE NEED TO APPLY TO GET THEM INSTALLED WILL BE BACK TO YOU WITH THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APPLICATION WELL, WE ARE YEAH OKAY, SO IT CAN WARNING OFFICIALS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OR KRISTEN COMMENT ON TAKING THINGS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IN PIECES HERE THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE ON THE APPLICATION.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO STEAL ANYONE ELSE HAS THUNDERBIRD CERTAINLY EVERY PROPERTY CAN COME IN WITH MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS FOR DIFFERENT FUTURES ON IT BEFORE THIS WORD AND, AS I SAID.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WE'RE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, VERY GOOD GUYS JUST CUT YOU OFF THERE KRISTEN.

KRISTEN WILSON: I DON'T AT THIS POINT UM IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WOULDN'T NEED A PERMIT GIVEN I GUESS THE THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED RETAINING WALL, OR WHAT EXISTS THERE.

KRISTEN WILSON: BUT IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE PERMIT FROM THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN CARY YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PERMITS TO SEPARATE APPROVALS REQUIRED BY THIS BOARD.

MARK MUSTACATO: DETAILS OF THE MOBILE PART OF THE SUBDIVISION SITE IMPROVEMENT PLAN FROM.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YEAH BUT I MEAN BUT BUT LISTEN MARK TO CHRIS'S POINT IF ULTIMATELY CARRIE TAKES, WE NEED TO COME IN WITH A SEPARATE APPLICATION, WE WILL WIN I KNOW FOR SURE IT'S NOT PART OF THIS ONE AND I DON'T WANT TO WASTE TIME ON SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NOT RELEVANT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WELL, I THINK THAT'S FOR THE BOARD TO THE SIDE NOT YOU JONATHAN.

WELL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LISTEN, THANK YOU YEP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALRIGHT, SO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I WANTED TO JUST CLEAR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TALK OR YOU WANT THE BOARD TO TALK, OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YES, IT IS YOUR MEETING BUT BUT, BEFORE YOU CUT US OFF I PROBABLY HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SIT BACK AND LISTEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT SO THE SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS HOUSE REQUIRES SPECIFIC GRADING THAT IS ACCOMMODATED BY WALLS, THE WALLS, WE SHOULD JUST IGNORE THE WALLS AS A PART OF THIS APPLICATION, WHICH SEEMS ODD AND UNUSUAL FOR I GUESS THE MANY YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD BUT OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

YOU GOT A QUESTION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO, IT WAS NOT OKAY.

I.

JIM CORNACCHIA: MICHAEL HOW MANY HOW MANY APPLICATIONS THAT WE CONSIDERED AND HOW MANY HAVE WE SENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ON.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YOU KNOW WHEN TAKING THE ENTIRE CONTEXTUAL VIEW OR THE PROPERTY AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS WE'VE SENT BACK AND SAID LOOK, WE NEED TO SEE EVERYTHING IN CONTEXT YOU CANNOT MAKE A JUDGMENT ON AESTHETICS, WHEN YOU TAKE THINGS IN PIECES.

JIM CORNACCHIA: SO THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A ONE OFF CASE IN MY MIND THIS IS CUT AND DRY.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YOU NEED TO SEE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT ON AESTHETICS, YOU NEED TO SEE THINGS IN IN CONTEXT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF DESIGN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE YEAH I MEAN WE DEALT WITH, OBVIOUSLY, GIVEN THE HEALING NATURE OF RYE WE'VE DEALT WITH DOZENS AND DOZENS OF APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT SITE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW SITE GRADING CHANGES AND AND FLATTENING THINGS AND MOVE IT MOVEMENTS AND WHATNOT AND RETAINING WALLS AND LANDSCAPING ARE ALWAYS A PART OF THAT AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONSIDERED AS A PART OF THE THE ACTUAL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW THE MAIN APPLICATION AND, IN FACT, IN MY SEVERAL MY YOU KNOW MY NUMBER OF YEARS ON THE VAR WE'VE NEVER HAD IT A SINGLE APPLICATION THAT WAS ONLY FOR RETAINING WALLS, NOT ONCE YEAH UM, SO I THINK YOU KNOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT.

MARK MUSTACATO: THAT IS OTHER APPLICATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH RETAINING WALLS, WE SHOWED YOU WHERE THERE WAS GONNA BE WE'RE GOING TO BE WE SHOWED YOU WITH THE HEIGHTS OF THE WALLS ARE WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT ELEVATIONS OF THE WALLS.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WE'RE NOT HERE TO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: SAY ANY OF THAT THEY THEY ARE IN FACT NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, AND WITHOUT PREJUDICE TO OUR RIGHTS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MARKET I JUST HAD LEO EMAIL YOUR PHOTOGRAPH THAT DEPICTS THE WALLS AND AND I POINT THIS OUT TO THE BOARD, BECAUSE I THINK.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: CANADA REQUIRES IT, THAT EVEN IF YOU LOOKED AT THE WALLS, YOU SAID WE DON'T LIKE THE COLOR STONE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: OR YOU SAID WE WOULD LIKE THEM AND STUCCO OR YOU SAID WE WOULD LIKE THEM IN CINDERBLOCK OR YOU SAID WE WOULD LIKE THEM PAINTED PURPLE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ASSUMING THAT THE APPLICANT WAS OKAY WITH MAKING THAT CHANGE, THEN I GUESS, WE WOULD MAKE A CHANGE, BUT OBVIOUSLY, OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE WE'D BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT SO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHAT I'M DOING HERE AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR I'M TRYING TO BE COOPERATIVE AND SAY LOOK, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A VERY TYPICAL EARTH IN COLOR IT'S NOW UP ON THE SCREEN.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: RETAINING WALL I DON'T BELIEVE IT REQUIRES A SEPARATE PERMIT, BUT IF KERRY SAYS THAT IT DOES, THEN OBVIOUSLY WILL PULL A PERMIT FOR IT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO PICTURE, AT LEAST FROM MY LANE VIEW THAT A WALL WITH DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT COLOR STONE WOULD LOOK BETTER, GIVEN THE CONTEXT, BUT HERE IT IS, AND I HOPE THAT NOW IT'S NOT OCCASION TO DELAY THE APPLICATION IS BEFORE YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT SO UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, I JUST WANT TO TRY TO MOVE THINGS ALONG, WE HAVE A DOZEN A DOZEN OTHER APPLICATIONS WAITING AND WE'LL.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: JUST KEEP THE THE WALL UP SO IF THE BOARD HAS ANY COMMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM YEAH ARCHITECTURE WISE AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT HEARING.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO IT'S GOING TO OPEN UP TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ME GO TO MY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APPLICANT LIST.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS REGARDING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THIS PROPERTY, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND AND LET LET YOURSELF BE KNOWN AND WHAT I DID TO THE MEETING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE WILL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SEE ANYONE, WE HAVE AN AD IN WAX WAX AND BERG HAS BEEN ADDED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LOOKS LIKE A MARK L AMINA.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALAN GOLD I'M SAYING HANDS RAISED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT UM YEAH SOME MEMBERS OF PUBLIC GIVE YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROJECT AND YOUR QUESTION FOR THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: REGARDING THIS APPLICATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND I GUESS JUST IN ORDER IF BY WHO GOT ADDED TO THE MEETING, FIRST, I SEE NEEDING WAX AND BURGERS UP FIRST.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IF YOU CAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GUESS IF YOUR TRUCK.

NADINE WAXENBERG: YES, THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WORD 1939.

NADINE WAXENBERG: SORRY, MY BATTERY IS LOW, ON MY LAPTOP.

NADINE WAXENBERG: FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE TIME TODAY, I APPRECIATE IT.

NADINE WAXENBERG: IN ADDITION TO MY NOTES, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT THE PICTURE OF THE WALL THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN, NOW IS THE BACK, RETAINING WALL, NOT THE WALL THAT FACES 19 AND 17 THE ONE PLACE THAT HAS BEEN CURRENTLY BUILT FOR OVER THE PAST WEEK, SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

NADINE WAXENBERG: ONE OF THE THING OR A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

NADINE WAXENBERG: AND THIS GOES BACK TO A COMMENT THAT DAVID MOVIE MADE ON THE 211 PURCHASE STREET APPLICATION THAT IT WORKS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

NADINE WAXENBERG: AND THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HERE, YOU CAN EVEN TELL FROM THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL THE HOMES NEARBY.

NADINE WAXENBERG: LET ALONE, THEY ARE ON LARGER LOTS THIS WAS ONE LOT DIVIDED INTO TWO THAT BARELY MADE IT THROUGH THE ZONING BOARD.

NADINE WAXENBERG: BUT TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE TWO HOMES THAT ARE ON HERE AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THEY HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED WITH SCHEMATICS OF THE HOMES.

NADINE WAXENBERG: ONE OF WHICH WAS 5875 SQUARE FEET IN THE RIGHT RECORD THE OTHER ONE WAS 4692 SQUARE FEET THAT'S NOT PREPARED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TONIGHT.

NADINE WAXENBERG: OTHER HOMES 93 OAKLAND BEAT JUST 2579 SQUARE FEET 7071 IS 2186 75 IS 1886 82 OAKLAND BEACH 2688 89 OAKLAND BEACH 3972 99 IS 2625 I CAN GO ON AND ON, BUT JUST TO GET A PERSPECTIVE.

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NADINE WAXENBERG: THIS LAND DOES NOT WARRANT THESE TWO HOMES OF THIS SIZE, PLUS THE HEIGHT THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT JUST REALLY DOES NOT AND THE RETAINING WALL THAT IS NOT ON THE SIDE HERE, IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN I WOULD TRY BUT.

NADINE WAXENBERG: THE WALLS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THE CORNER, WHERE YOU HAD THE LITTLE ARROW NUMBER 34 THOSE ARE ABOUT THREE FEET WIDE LET'S CALL IT TWO FEET I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE ROOM TO PUT THOSE TREES IN THERE WAS JUST.

NADINE WAXENBERG: THAT MARK JUST WENT THROUGH THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH WALL, LET ALONE THE DRAINAGE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP.

NADINE WAXENBERG: THAT IS NOT GOING TO HELP WITH THE WALL AND THE TREES WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT ALL OF THAT DREAM AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN ADVANCE AND PLANT, THE TREE IS NOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THE DRAINAGE, WITH ALL OF THAT.

NADINE WAXENBERG: AND YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT SOMEBODY WAS A COMMENT LIKE WELL, MAYBE WILL PLANT SOME MORE TREES ON OUR PROPERTY TO HELP WITH THE SCREENING OF EVERYTHING, WHILE THAT'S LOVELY THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THE APPROVAL.

NADINE WAXENBERG: SHOOT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

NADINE WAXENBERG: OKAY SORRY, I THINK I LOST YOU I HAD AN INCOMING CALL I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APOLOGIZE I'M.

NADINE WAXENBERG: TRYING TO FIND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS ANY OTHER COMMENTS MAY DEAN, OR AS.

NADINE WAXENBERG: YOU GUYS GO, BUT I JUST REALLY WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE WHAT WE CAN DO, AND I STRONGLY REQUEST THAT WE POSTPONE THIS SOME APPROVAL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANKS LADY I HAD MARK ALAMEDA NEXT UP ON JUST AN ORDER I'M READING DOWN THE PARTICIPANT LIST MARK.

MARC ALIMENA: YES, HI.

MARC ALIMENA: I WILL TRY NOT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME BECAUSE I'M WANT TO MAKE SEVERAL THE SAME POINTS IN A DANGEROUS MADE SO I'M JUST GOING TO BE BRIEF ON THOSE.

MARC ALIMENA: BUT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT THE PICTURE OF THE WALL THAT IS UP IS NOT THE SAME WALL HAS THE WALLS ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT OVER LOOK AT 1917 TORN PLACE AS NEEDING JUST SAID, I, BY THE WAY, ON FOREIGN PLACE I'M DOWN ONE HOUSE FURTHER DOWN ON THE 15TH OR IN PLACE.

MARC ALIMENA: BUT THE WALL, THE APPEARANCE OF THE WALLS ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT, BUT THE TWO FOREIGN PLACE PROPERTIES IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOKING WALL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NATURE WALL, THEN THE WALL THAT THEY SHOW THE PICTURE OF AND YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE THAT WALL.

MARC ALIMENA: TO APPRECIATE IT, THE SECOND COMMENT AND FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BOARD THAT NADINE ALSO MENTIONED AGAIN TRY TO BE BRIEF, BUT THE.

MARC ALIMENA: APPROVED PLOT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A HAD THE TOPOGRAPHY CHANGED.

MARC ALIMENA: TO HELP WITH DRAINAGE BECAUSE DRAINAGE IS A HUGE CONCERN.

MARC ALIMENA: AND SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PATHWAY FOR WATER FLOW ALONG THAT WALL TO A AND FORGIVE MY LAYMAN'S TERMS, BUT TO TO SOME SORT OF CATCH BASIN THAT GETS THEN PIPED INTO THE COVERT SYSTEM.

MARC ALIMENA: AT THE LOWER CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THESE TREES, WHICH ARE DESIRABLE.

MARC ALIMENA: ABSOLUTELY, BUT THEY'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS AS THAT GETS WORK THAT WORK GETS DONE IS THAT THIS IS ALL DONE SO, IT PROVIDES THE SCREEN AND THAT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED, BUT IT DOESN'T DISRUPT THE WATER FLOW ISSUES THAT ARE UP SUCH A HUGE CONCERN.

MARC ALIMENA: AND THEN THE THIRD COMMENT AND CLEARLY IN THE CONVERSATION PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, BUT THERE WAS ONE COMMENT, QUITE HONESTLY, I HAVE TO REACT TO THAT WHEN I GATHER MARK IS THE ARCHITECT.

MARC ALIMENA: OBVIOUSLY, IS FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE COMMENTED, HE BASICALLY DISREGARDED THE THORN PLACE PROPERTIES AS BEING FAR AWAY.

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MARC ALIMENA: INSULTING.

MARK MUSTACATO: I WASN'T TRYING SOMETHING NEW THAT HOUSES HERE THERE'S A NEIGHBORING HOUSES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH THANKS THANKS THANKS MARK FOR THE COMMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOING DOWN THE LIST ALAN ALAN GOLD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: L&R I THINK YOU'RE I BELIEVE YOU'RE ON MUTE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENT OR ASK A QUESTION BEFORE.

ALAN GOLD: I MICHAEL THIS IS ANGLED I'M GOING TO START OFF, AND I KNOW MR CROWD HAD MENTIONED CHAPTER 53 OF THE RIGHT CODE, WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS WAS BROUGHT IN FRONT OF AND I LOOKED IT UP.

ALAN GOLD: AND READING FROM THAT IT SAYS THAT THE BOARD, I MEAN IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE IT'S PURVIEW TO DISAPPROVE AN APPLICATION IF IT FINDS A EXCESSIVELY DISSIMILAR OR INAPPROPRIATE IN RELATION TO.

ALAN GOLD: STRUCTURES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY EXISTING STRUCTURES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, INCLUDING WITH FEATURES LIKE FLOOR AREA HEIGHT, ETC, SO I.

ALAN GOLD: AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID BY SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BOARD, IN PARTICULAR, AND ALSO WITH ME DEAN IN TERMS OF THIS HOUSE AND THE OTHER HOUSE BEING ADVERTISED BEING OUT OF SCALE AND IN TERMS OF THEIR SIZE AND ALSO THEIR HEIGHT WITH ANY OF THESE NEW BONE PROPERTIES.

ALAN GOLD: I ALSO LIKE THIS PHOTO BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE TWO TREES, THE MATURE TREES THAT WERE CUT DOWN.

ALAN GOLD: A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INCLUDING THIS PHOTO BECAUSE IT ONCE AGAIN SHOWS TO COMPLETE DISREGARD.

ALAN GOLD: THE DEVELOPER HAS.

ALAN GOLD: FOR THE TREES AND FOR THE LAW THAT IS GOVERNING ROTH, I ALSO LIKE TO DEAL WITH REALITY.

ALAN GOLD: AND NOT TALK ABOUT INTENT, ETC, GIVE A MASSIVE EXCAVATOR SITTING ON THIS LAND TOMORROW MORNING WAS RAISED THE OSCAR VADER UP.

ALAN GOLD: TO THE EXACT HEIGHT OF THE PEAK OF THIS ROOF AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND EVERYONE CAN COME AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE HOW IT ABSOLUTELY DWARFS THE REST OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANK YOU, ALAN AND AND CARLOS.

CARLOS PERAZA: THANK YOU, THANKS FOR MAKING GIVING ME THE TIME I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT MY NEIGHBOR SAID, WHICH I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THEM, I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT.

CARLOS PERAZA: THIS PROPERTY OFFENSIVELY TOWERS OVER OTHER PROPERTIES IT ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORS OF THE TOWN.

CARLOS PERAZA: AND IT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT IN THIS WAY, I THINK, PUTTING UP SIX FEET TOP PLANTS DOESN'T NOTHING TO COVER A WALL THAT WILL GO UP MAYBE 35 FEET.

CARLOS PERAZA: I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE WHAT MICHAEL AMINA SAID THAT THE THIS REGARD TO THE LOWER PROPERTIES FROM THE ARCHITECT IS PRETTY SERIOUS.

CARLOS PERAZA: I KNOW YOU INVITE HIM TO COME TO MY HOUSE TO LOOK AT THE WAY THIS HOUSE IS GOING TO LOOK AND THEY THINK ALAN'S IDEA OF JUST PUTTING UP THE EXCAVATOR TO THE HEIGHTS OF THE HOUSE AND GETTING A FEEL OF IT WILL GIVE EVERYONE THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE, THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M GREAT I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE NEIGHBOR MARTIN MARTIN KEY OH TO.

MARTIN KEHOE: IT THANKS MICHAEL I APPRECIATE IT.

MARTIN KEHOE: AND I DON'T REPEAT WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, MARY AND I AND OUR FAMILY LIVE AT CAN BE JAVON YOU AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT.

MARTIN KEHOE: YOU KNOW THIS AS WE LOOK OVER AND WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN THE RESIDENTS OF TORN PLACE BUT THIS HOUSE WILL AGAIN JUST TO REITERATE AND REPEAT WITH TOWER OVER.

MARTIN KEHOE: OUR PROPERTY AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS OBVIOUSLY FOR US IS THE LIGHT THAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY COME IN ON OUR ON OUR DECK WHICH WILL NOW BE I SUSPECT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.

MARTIN KEHOE: AND WE LOOK AT YOU HAVE HEARD ALL THE ARGUMENTS I BACK TO, AS MR CRUMP REFER TO CHAPTER 53 AND THIS THIS CHAPTER DOES SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT WHETHER THE PROPERTY PROPOSED IS OUT OF CHARACTER WHICH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPACTS IN PARIS, THE BENEFIT.

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MARTIN KEHOE: FOR THE RECORD, MR CROWD UNDER WHAT REGULATION DID THE THE APPLICANT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE TREES OUT WHEN HE FIRST BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WHICH WHICH REGULATION WAS IT PLEASED.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WITH ALL RESPECT I HAVEN'T BEEN RETAINED TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A WAR, THE BOARD ADVICE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CONDUCT ON THIS PROPERTY HAS FOLLOWED THE LAW HAS GOTTEN THE PROPER APPROVALS AND CONTINUES TO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THEN MR CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER COMMENTS I'LL TELL YOU KNOW IT'S INTERESTING MR GOALS HAPPY THE PICTURES THERE I AM TOO, BECAUSE YOU ALSO COULD SEE WITH THE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: INCREASING GRADIENT TO THE REAR THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE, BEHIND WHICH I BELIEVE IS EITHER THE GOALS ARE THEIR NEIGHBORS AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY, IT WILL BE TOWERING OVER THIS ONE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE IN THE SAME ZIP CODE, IF NOT HIGHER.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I THINK, AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS I SAID EARLIER THAT THAT IS EVEN RELEVANT ANYWAY, BECAUSE, AS OUR COMMUNITY HAS DEVELOPED AND I GAVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES I COULD GIVE DOZENS MORE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WHERE WE HAVE HILLY TERRAIN, THE HOUSES THAT HAVE PURCHASED PROPERTY AND BUILT ON THEM ARE BUILT DEVELOPED HOMES THAT ARE DOWNGRADED HAVE HOUSES ABOVE THEM THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER THAN THEM.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: ARE ZONING CONTROLS ARE WRITTEN THE WAY THEY ARE THESE HOUSES ARE FULLY ZONING COMPLIANT I DON'T WANT TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.

ALAN GOLD: THANK YOU, JONATHAN FOR THAT INSIGHTFUL COMMENT I WOULD SAY THAT THE ONLY REASON, YOU CAN SEE OUR HOUSE IS BECAUSE OF THE NEW PALMING.

ALAN GOLD: THAT YOU AND YOUR CLIENT EVERYONE DID OUR HOST HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROBABLY BE SEEN FROM THAT STREET FOR 50 YEARS AND NOW IT'S IN PLAIN SIGHT FOR THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, I THINK THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE COMMENTS THE NEIGHBOR COMMENTS BY OF THAT CORRECTLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MARTIN, I SEE YOUR HAND IS UP IS THAT JUST A A REMNANT OF THE PRIOR COMMENT OR IS THAT A NEW COMMENT.

MARTIN KEHOE: IT'S JUST A I DID ASK MR CREDIT QUESTION WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE HE ANSWERED WITH RESPECT TO ON WHAT BASIS, WHERE ALL THE TREES REMOVED BECAUSE, AS I READ THE REGULATIONS.

MARTIN KEHOE: MR CHAIRMAN, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT WHEN YOU REMOVE TREES, WITH RESPECT TO A SUBDIVISION YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE APPLICANT OBTAIN PERMISSION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REMOVE THE TREES, AS THEY DID.

MARTIN KEHOE: NOW I SUSPECT SILENCE MEANS AND YOU DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT COMMENT, MR CRUMP.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: NO, IT ABSOLUTELY DOES, AND IT MEANS I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH IT, BUT IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THE JOB OF A OR B, THEY HAVE A LONG AGENDA AND I'M GONNA LET THEM DO THEIR JOB.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TREE REMOVAL AND TREE PRESERVATION PLANS AND OUR TREE PLANTING PLAN, THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU CAN TAKE THOSE ISSUES UP BUT WE'RE DOING THINGS, ACCORDING TO THE LAW.

MARTIN KEHOE: SO I JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHICH LAW WAS THAT YOU REMOVED THOSE TREES UNDER.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MR CHAIRMAN I'M DONE WITH THIS BACK AND FORTH I THINK IF HE HAS COMMENTS YOU CAN DIRECT THEM TO YOU AS A BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, ARE SO SMART AND I THINK THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IS A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR THE RIDE BUILDING OUR MEN AND OFFICIALS THERE AND I'M ASSUMING HOPEFULLY YOU'VE ASKED THEM AND AND NOT GOTTEN A SATISFACTORY ANSWER BUT I THAT THAT IS KIND OF OUR PURVIEW OF THE THE VAR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM, SO I THINK I THINK THAT THAT IS THE ALL OF THE NEIGHBOR COMMENTS AND I'LL JUST GO BACK TO THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE THE COMMENTS THAT THE THE THE NEIGHBORS MADE AND THEY THEY ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT THE VAR MADE REGARDING HEIGHT SO UM IS THERE ANY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY CONSIDERATION BY THE APPLICANT TO REVISIT THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE OF THE HOUSE, THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE ROOF PITCH OR OUR WE MIGHT ADDRESS THE HEIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY APPETITE FOR REVISITING THAT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOU KNOW I CAN ANSWER THAT ON BEHALF OF THE ABA WE DID.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: WE LOOKED AT A LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT YOU KNOW, WHILE TREES WHEN THEY'RE INITIALLY INSTALLED THEY'RE NOT AT THEIR MAXIMUM HEIGHT, BUT WE'RE INSTALL WEATHER VIEW TOWARDS REDUCING THOSE VIEWS.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN FOLKS UNDERSTANDING, LIKE MR GOAL OF A HOUSE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THAT OVERLOOKS SOMEONE ELSE'S TREES THAT THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT WHEN THE CONFIGURATION THAT LOT CHANGES, BUT THAT IS REALITY THE SHORT ANSWER IS, AFTER LOOKING IN OUR PROGRAM AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS FULLY ZONING COMPLIANT.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: AND INVESTING SUBSTANTIAL MONEY IN SETTING UP THE GRADING DRAINAGE AND TREES TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS, WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE HEIGHT, WE HAVE PRESENTED YOU WITH THE DESIGN, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FOR THE WORD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M NOT HEARING ANY UM, SO I THINK I THINK ITS DECISION TIME ULTIMATELY I'M HEARING SOME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE ALSO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES RAISED BY THE YOU KNOW, RAISED BY THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE RESPONSE FROM THE APPLICANT IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT NO CHANGES WILL BE CONSIDERED TO WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED, BASED ON ANY OF THE COMMENTS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICATION OF BY THE APPLICANT FOR I BUY THAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TODAY IS THE BEST AND FINAL VERSION AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THOUGH CHANGES OR ALTERATIONS WILL BE CONSIDERED REGARDING ANY OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE BOARD QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MADE BY THE BOARD OR THE NEIGHBORS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AS MY UNDERSTANDING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO I I'M NOT SENSING UNIVERSAL APPROVAL FROM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT REGARDING THIS PROPERTY SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE TO A VOTE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: VERY GOOD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO YEAH MOTION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MAKE A MOTION TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: 95 OAKLAND BEACH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY, I NEED A SECOND.

KRISTEN WILSON: SORRY, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, AS THE MOTION TO APPROVE IT OR IS EMOTION TO DISAPPROVE IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH MOTION I GUESS MOTION TO APPROVE.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THANK YOU.

KRISTEN WILSON: DONNA, IF YOU COULD DO A ROLL CALL VOTE OR I CAN HE WOULD PREFER.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: SURE, I CAN DO A ROLL CALL MICHAEL HARRINGTON.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: HOOVER DISAPPROVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DISAPPROVE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: KATHY GRANGER HOPKINS HAS ABSTAINED FRANK DATA LETTER.

DISAPPROVE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: JIM CORNUCOPIA.

JIM CORNACCHIA: DISAPPROVED DISAPPROVE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: IT SEEK THE TODO.

DISAPPROVE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: LEWIS ROLANDO.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: YOU MAY HAVE STEPPED OUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I DON'T SEE HIM ON THE PANELISTS LIST.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: AT THE MOMENT, OKAY NEXT WE HAVE CHRISTINE ROSSETTI SETTLED.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: DISAPPROVE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: BOARD, AS IN THE SAME.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: WHAT GREAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH COULD JUST READ BACK THE THE THE ACCOUNT.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: I HAVE MICHAEL HARRINGTON DISAPPROVE KATHY GRANGER HAS ABSTAINED FRANK DATA LETTER DISAPPROVE JIM CROW NAUSEA DISAPPROVE NANCY PATHAK DISAPPROVE LOWEST ROLANDO IS NOT PRESENT, CHRISTINE WAS STILL DISAPPROVE SO THAT WILL BE THREE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: FIVE DISAPPROVAL.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: BALL AND IF I COULD, COULD YOU JUST TELL ME TO THE MOTION, AND WE HAVE FOR THE SECOND.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: CHRISTIAN CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT.

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JONATHAN D. KRAUT: I HEARD HIM MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, I THOUGHT RIGHT.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, THE MOTION WAS BY THE CHAIRMAN.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: YOU DID THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

FRANK GADALETA: I DID.

FRANK GADALETA: BUT I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, BUT I, SO I CAN DO.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: MY SHOWS A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR HARRINGTON AND SECONDED BY MR GOT A LETTER.

FRANK GADALETA: YES.

KRISTEN WILSON: YES, OKAY.

JONATHAN D. KRAUT: THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, THAT THAT CONCLUDES THE DISCUSSION ON 95 OAKLAND BEACH MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AT NINE HILLSIDE.

ROAD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: 18 NINE HILLSIDE ROAD IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A NON HILLSIDE RAISE YOUR HAND THERE WE GO, WE HAVE A DAVID BAR BOOTY.

DAVID BARBUTI: MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, GIVE ME A.

DAVID BARBUTI: DAY FOR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GO AHEAD.

DAVID BARBUTI: I DATE FOR BEAUTY ARCHITECT REPRESENTING THE OWNERS OF 89 HILLSIDE ROAD FOR A 15 BY 35 IN GROUND POOL OR THE WATER FEATURE AND PATIO UM, IF I MAY LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THIS WAS A CONTINUED PROJECT REQUESTING LANDSCAPING PLAN, JUST TO REFRESH MEMORIES, THAT IS CORRECT.

JUST NEED TO FIND IT.

DAVID BARBUTI: MY LANDSCAPING PLANET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE WE SEE YOUR FILE EXPLORER OPEN AND RECEIVE FOR FILES ARE NOT OPEN YET ON OUR SCREEN.

DAVID BARBUTI: ANYTHING THERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO, I SEE A GREEN LINE ACROSS THE SCREEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SHARE AND THEN RESHARE THE WINDOW THAT THE ACTUAL WINDOW THAT YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ARE INTERESTED IN SHARING.

NANCY PATOTA: IT SAYS NEW SHARE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY WE'RE SEEING.

DAVID BARBUTI: YA HEAR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ME OKAY, HERE WE GO, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT PDF COMING UP, IT LOOKS LIKE.

NANCY PATOTA: CLICK ON THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SCREEN IS REALLY SMALL HERE IS THERE, ANYWAY, OH THERE WE GO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH THERE WE GO OKAY WE'RE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE'RE LOOKING AT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

SO.

DAVID BARBUTI: SO I WAS HERE LAST COUPLE WEEKS AGO I FORGOT TO INCLUDE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND MY SON MIDDLE SO BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE A LONG THE.

DAVID BARBUTI: BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S GOT SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.

DAVID BARBUTI: IT'S HEAVILY LANDSCAPES THERE'S 25 FOOT.

DAVID BARBUTI: GREEN EMERALD OR PROVIDE THESE MIXED IN WITH SOME HOLLY BUSHES WHICH ARE ALSO ABOUT 20 FEET TALL IT SKIPS TWO ADDITIONAL ARE PROVIDING.

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DAVID BARBUTI: DO A COUPLE OF WHITES BRUCE'S THERE'S AN EXISTING 30 INCH DIAMETER WHITE MAPLE TREE HERE A FEW MORE SPRUCES AND A FEW MORE PROVIDES TO STREAM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

DAVID BARBUTI: GOING TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE'S BASICALLY A POSTING RAIL FENCE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THROUGH SO ONCE AGAIN CREATED OTHER ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING JADE HAVE.

DAVID BARBUTI: THREE ARE PROVIDE EASE GOING WITH THREE WHITES VERSUS AND TO OUR PROVIDERS, AT THE END TO SCREEN THAT HOUSE FROM THE PROPOSED POOL CONSTRUCTION.

DAVID BARBUTI: BUT EACH TREE RIGHT NOW PROPOSED WILL BE AROUND 60 HIGH.

DAVID BARBUTI: AND, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BACK, THEY WILL GROW IN EXCESS OF 20 TO 25 FEET TALL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING LANDSCAPING PLAN WE HAD SEEN THE POOL PREVIOUSLY AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY ISSUES OR QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE JUST MISSING THE LANDSCAPING PLAN SO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M GREAT I'M GOING SORRY OOPS GOING TO THE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR AT NIGHT HILLSIDE POOL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND OR LANDSCAPING PLAN RAISE YOUR HAND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M NOT SEEING ANY SO IT'S APPROVED THANK YOU.

DAVID BARBUTI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT MOVING ON TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OUR FIRST NEW APPLICATION EXCELLENT TWO HOURS IN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: 22 HARBOR TERRORISTS DRIVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IF YOU'RE HERE FOR 22 HARBOR TERRORISTS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I BELIEVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: A JAM.

IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M SORRY JAAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APOLOGIES YOU'RE MUTED IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PRESENT OR TALK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE WE GO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH, PAUL I SHOULD RECOGNIZE YOUR NAME APOLOGIES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE CAN HEAR YOU IF YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YES.

JAN CADEK: OKAY, NOW, IF YOU CAN SEE ME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, YEAH.

OH GOOD.

JAN CADEK: GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY I'M I'M GONNA STARTING TO SHARE SHARE MY SCREEN.

JAN CADEK: RIGHT SO I'M REPRESENTING.

JAN CADEK: PROPERTY WHICH IS TRYING TO HARBOR TERRACE MOST OF THE PROJECT IT'S A IT'S INSIDE.

JAN CADEK: OF THE HOUSE EATS INTO OUR AUTOMATION THE ONLY WHAT WE DO ON THE EXTERIOR IT'S IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND IT'S THOSE THREE WINDOWS AND THOSE TWO FRENCH DOORS.

JAN CADEK: HMM SO THOSE ARE NEW AND THEN WE ARE JUST REPLACING OUR RAILING AT THE EXISTING DECK IN FRONT OF THOSE.

JAN CADEK: THOSE WINDOWS AND DOORS.

JAN CADEK: THAT'S ALL WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

JAN CADEK: THIS IS.

JAN CADEK: THE EXISTING.

JAN CADEK: READ ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE.

JAN CADEK: IT WAS HARD TO PHOTOGRAPH SO IT'S FROM THE ANGLE, BUT THE.

JAN CADEK: NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS, THEY SHOULD BE IN THIS LOCATION.

JAN CADEK: RIGHT HERE SO WE'RE REMOVING THE SLIDING DOORS IN THIS SMALL WINDOW ON THE SIDE.

HUH.

JAN CADEK: PHOTO FROM THE OTHER SIDE IT'S IT'S HERE BASICALLY THESE SLIDING DOORS ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED, AND THIS SMALL WINDOW ON THE SIDE IS GOING TO BE A MOVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RIGHT.

JAN CADEK: AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE.

JAN CADEK: THIS SISTER.

JAN CADEK: PROPOSING THIS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M EXCELLENT ANY QUESTIONS FROM A MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR 22 HARBOR TERRORISTS WINDOWS AND DOORS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT SEEING ANY JAAN IT'S APPROVED THANK.

JAN CADEK: YOU THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M MOVING ON TO US 39 ORMOND PLACE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RICHARD BEL AIR WE GO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RICHARD BELLOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GO AHEAD RICHARD YOU'RE ON MUTE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TRYING TO SPEAK.

RICHARD BELLO: SORRY, MY SCREENS WENT ALL HANKY THE SECOND I RAISED MY HAND.

RICHARD BELLO: GOOD MORNING, RICHARD GOOD EVENING RICHARD BELLOW FOR BILL ARCHITECTURE, ON BEHALF OF THE HOMEOWNER AT 39 ARMAND GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN.

RICHARD BELLO: CAN YOU SEE THE DRAWING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, WE CAN SEE YOUR DRAWINGS.

RICHARD BELLO: VERY GOOD.

RICHARD BELLO: SO THIS APPLICATION IS BASICALLY FOR REFINISHING A FINISHED BASEMENT AND ADDING A WINDOW WELL AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

RICHARD BELLO: THE WINDOW WELL IS GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE.

RICHARD BELLO: FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT'S BASICALLY, THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

RICHARD BELLO: AND WE, WE HAVE PICTURES HERE THE WINDOW IS GOING TO GO RIGHT HERE UNDER THE EXISTING WINDOW LANDSCAPING WILL BE REMOVED AND THEN REPLANTED IN FRONT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HMM.

RICHARD BELLO: GET ANOTHER VIEW RIGHT HERE THE WINDOW WELL.

RICHARD BELLO: AND THAT'S THE BASIC GIST OF IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT AND AND THAT'S JUST TO ADD A MEANS OF EGRESS FROM THE BASEMENT IS THAT CORRECT CORRECT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE NEXT YEAR.

RICHARD BELLO: NOT TO THE EXTREME, NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S GOING BACK WE'LL JUST BE THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING THAT SCARES JUST GETTING GOING TO GET TAKEN OUT AND PUT BACK OR.

RICHARD BELLO: IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE THE SAME TAKE IT OUT PUT BACK OR SIMILAR IN NATURE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH NO I'M GREAT ANY OH I GOTTA GO TO THE PARTICIPANTS ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ASK QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE 39 ORMAN PLACE EXTERIOR WINDOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SEEING NON RICHARD IT'S APPROVED THANK YOU.

RICHARD BELLO: THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: 1830 AVENUE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PLIABLE SIGN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: 1830.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE HAVE US STEVE I JUST SEE A FIRST NAME STEVE YOU'RE ON MUTE IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A TEAM PARTY.

STEVE: YES, I AM MR CHAIRMAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT I'M.

STEVE: JUST TRYING TO.

STEVE: SHARE MY SCREEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY STEVE LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD.

STEVE: DYMOVSKY DM O V SK I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: STEVE TOMASKY OKAY REPRESENT THE SIGN COMPANY.

STEVE: NO I'M ACTUALLY THE OWNER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH OF 18 PRETTY GREAT PERFECT UM.

STEVE: NO, NOT HAVE 18 PARTY OF THE BIBLE'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH APOLOGIES YEAH SORRY I HAVE.

STEVE: NO PROBLEM JUST GOING TO BE CLEAR YEP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HE EVENTUALLY TENANT GOT IT DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN AND SHOW US THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE.

STEVE: OH YEAH I THOUGHT IT WAS SHARED WILL BE TRYING TO GET ON HERE WE GO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UP IT'S COMING UP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT YEAH WE HAVE A BUNCH OF WHENEVER WE GO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE'RE SENDING A PDF.

OKAY, SO.

STEVE: WE'RE TAKING WE'RE TAKING THIS STOREFRONT OF 18 PARTY AVENUE, THE FIRST FLOOR ONLY.

STEVE: I'M NOT SURE IF THE BOARD IS FAMILIAR WITH BIBLES IT'S A FRANCHISE OUT OF JERSEY SHORE WE SELL ICE FOOTBALLS VALUABLES JIA JIA BOWLS A LOT OF GOOD STUFF KIDS LIKE IT AND.

STEVE: SO IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT WE MY PARTNER AND MYSELF HAVE THIS IS OUR THIRD STORE, WE HAVE ONE IN FAIRFIELD ONE DAIRY AND.

STEVE: AND BECAUSE IT'S A FRANCHISE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AND THE THEME FOR THIS STORE IS AGAIN IT WAS IT STARTED ON THE JERSEY SHORE IT'S A VERY BEACHY FEEL WHETHER IT LOOK ON THE INSIDE SURFBOARDS.

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STEVE: PLAYFUL DESIGN ELEMENTS ON THE INSIDE.

STEVE: SO OUR SIGN IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE THIS RIGHT HERE AND I'LL ZOOM INTO IT FOR YOU.

STEVE: AND IT'S GOING TO THIS IS APPLY THE PAYABLES LOGO SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THAT TO THE CORPORATE REQUIREMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND STEVE: I WAS GOING TO BE MADE OUT OF A.

STEVE: WEATHER WEATHER WOULD AGAIN THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THE THEME OF THE STORY IS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A SIGN OF THE FAIRFIELD STORE SIGN, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT HERE.

STEVE: AND THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

STEVE: RECLAIMED WOOD ON THE OUTSIDE AND THE THE GOO SNAP LIGHTS ON THE INSIDE, I SORRY FOR THE DOWNLOADING ON THE STORE AND IT'LL BE EXACTLY IT'S ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN THE SIGN.

STEVE: THE SIGN IS 36 INCHES, WHETHER THAT BE THE SIZE, A LITTLE BIT BETTER I THINK WE'RE AT 36 AND SMALLER LETTERS LETTERS WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE 10 INCH LADDERS, WITH A 12 INCH LOGO THESE I THINK ARE ABOUT 12 AND 14 SO.

STEVE: IF I CAN JUST SHOW THE BOARD A COUPLE OF INTERIOR IMAGES, JUST SO WE'RE JUST I JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONTEXTUAL WITH WHAT THE INSIDE OF THE STORE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND IT'S GOT SOME FUN PAINTINGS ON IT IT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU KNOW.

STEVE: YOUNG KIDS GOT AGAIN THE BEACH THERE'S THE WEATHERED LOOK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE SURFBOARD SURFBOARDS INSIDE.

STEVE: SOMEONE.

STEVE: THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE SERVING CONNOR SO YOU CAN SEE, THE PEOPLE COME IN, THEY ORDER AND AGAIN A LOT OF RECLAIMED WOOD ALL OVER THE PLACE ON THIS.

STEVE: A LOT OF FUN PAINTINGS.

STEVE: THANK YOU FEEL STORE RIGHT THERE YEP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: EXCELLENT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: QUESTION FOR MEMBERS OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE WE TYPICALLY SEE SIGNAGE THAT'S JUST THE LETTERS UM WHICH I BELIEVE THE THE MAX LETTER SIZES 12 INCHES AND RYE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM IS THERE ANY RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING THE SIZE OF OR CONFIGURATION OF THAT KIND OF BACKGROUND PLATE OR IS THAT INDEPENDENT OF THE THE KIND OF RESTRICTIONS ON LETTER SIZES.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: I BELIEVE THE CODE WEEDS TO THE LETTER SIZES, NOT TO THE BACKGROUND OF THE RECLAIMED WOOD AS PRESENTED, BUT WE WILL.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: LOOK INTO THAT.

STEVE: OKAY, THERE IS MR CHAIRMAN, THERE IS, THERE IS A SIZE REQUIREMENT IT'S IN RELATION TO THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SIGN AND WE'RE WELL UNDER THE REQUIREMENT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY SQUARE FOOTAGE GOT IT OKAY UM AND THE LIGHTING IS A THOSE GOOSE NECK LIGHTING THAT SHINE ON TO THE THE THE SIGN, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY NOT LIGHTED ITSELF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DOES OUTLINING MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS DAWN.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: YES, THAT'S FINE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOOSE LIGHTING GOT IT, YES, AS LONG AS WHITE I GUESS.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: CORRECT AS LONG AS THE LIGHTS WHITE AT NIGHT.

OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE ACTUALLY CAN WE JUST SEE THE SIGN ON THE STOREFRONT AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE MAYBE ZOOM OUT OF THAT PD ON THAT PEDIA.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANKS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE SIGN.

FRANK GADALETA: NO.

JIM CORNACCHIA: NO MY DAUGHTER IS A HUGE FAN, BY THE WAY.

STEVE: DOWN WAIT TO HIM, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF A BUNCH OF I GUESS HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WALKING BY THIS WEEKEND THEY'RE ALL STICKING THEIR HEADS AND THEY'RE KIND OF EXCITED SO WE'RE EXCITED TO COME TO RIDE.

STEVE: STORE AND WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE A HIT THERE, HOPEFULLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I'LL BE THERE FOR SURE I LOVE THIS KIND OF THING I'M JUST GOING TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, JUST SO IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR PLIABLE SIGNAGE JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M NOT SEEING ANY NO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, AND I GUESS PENDING A FINAL APPROVAL THAT THE SIZE AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FOR THE FINAL PERMIT IT'S APPROVED AS FAR AS THE THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW IS CONCERNED, ON THE AESTHETICS THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK, THANK YOU I'M MOVING ON TO 100 PURCHASE STREET ANOTHER NEW SIGN GREEK FROM GREECE OTTER AND PURCHASE.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREG CHAI BOW SKI.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: G F G GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD GREG YOU'RE ON MUTE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEAK, THERE WE GO.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: HOW ARE YOU YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU'RE HERE 400 PURCHASE.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: CORRECT YES WE APPLY.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: FOR A GREEK FROM GREECE IS A BALLPARK BUT ME COFFEE AND AND PASTOR CHUCK AND OUR SIGNAGE IS GOING TO BE ON THREE SIDES OF THE BUILDING THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE A GREAT WAY TO JUST LAY THAT WHITE JUST VERY GOOD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH IF YOU CAN SHOW US.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ON SCREEN SHARE IT BEFORE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREG YOU'RE KIND OF CUTTING IN AND OUT THERE ON THE AUDIO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DID WE I THINK WE'VE ASKED GREG DO WE LOSE THEM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M SORRY, IS IT JUST ME OR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO YES.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: I CAN HEAR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU I CAN'T HEAR HIM OKAY UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HEY GREG WE'RE HAVING SOME CONNECTIVITY ISSUES.

IF.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: I TELL YOU TO SHARE THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE LEARN HERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, GO AHEAD.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: YES, YES I NOT ABLE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, SO I CAN I DON'T HAVE ALL MY.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: ON MY PC.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: PROPOSING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

NANCY PATOTA: HERE WE GO.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: SO THAT'S GOING TO BE FACED WITH THEIR PURCHASE THREE.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: AND WE PLAN TO PUT THIS ONE IN THE SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: AND ONE MORE ON THE OTHER SIDE FACING THE SIDEWALK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: SO THE SIGNS ARE PROPER SIZE OR THE PALACE OF THE TRANSISTOR AT.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: 1012 INCHES HIGH.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: IT'S LIKE THAT, LIKE THE TWILIGHT OF THE NIGHTTIME DAYTIME SNOW LIKE TO LIVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: AND BOTH ARE ROUND SIGNS ON THE SIDES THAT LATER THAT NIGHT ALSO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE TUITION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND THE END OKAY OKAY, AND THE LETTERING ON THE SIDES IS ALSO 12 INCHES.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: ON THE ON THE ON THE ROUND ONE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: YES, THEY GOING TO BE LESS THAN 12 INCHES.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: TO START ON THE SCIENCE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YEAH SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION NOW SEPARATELY, I SEE THE THE RENDERINGS WHICH IS GREAT WITH THE WITH THE SIGNS ON THE THE ACTUAL PICTURE ITSELF BUT I'M NOT SEEING ANY OR MAYBE I'M JUST MISSING I'M NOT SAYING ANY DRAWING SHOWING THE SIZES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OR.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: I GUESS, NO ONE FROM RURAL TO SUBMITTED, BUT WE CAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH NOT ENOUGH, THE BOARD, I THINK, AGREES THAT I THINK THE PICTURES ARE NICE BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY DIMENSIONS OR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE DESCRIPTIONS REGARDING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH THE SIZES AND THAT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THE PICTURES HOW HOW THEY THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES ON THE SIDE I'LL JUST ADMIT LOOK VERY LARGE AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A MISREPRESENTATION BECAUSE IT'S A GRAPHICAL IMAGE, BUT IT'S IT'S HARD TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S HARD TO REVIEW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO I THINK IF WE CAN HAVE THE ACTUAL DRAWINGS OF THE ACTUAL SIGNS WITH DIMENSIONS FOR THE NEXT MEETING, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.

GREG CHYBOWSKI GFG: CORRECT WE WOULD SUBMIT THAT THING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE GREAT OKAY SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HE'S A.

CONTINUED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MOVING ON 20 HILLCREST LANE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RICHARD BELLOWS BACK HEY RICHARD.

RICHARD BELLO: HELLO BACK.

RICHARD BELLO: TO YOU, ON.

RICHARD BELLO: BACK AGAIN RICHARD BELLOW BILL ARCHITECTURE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS AT 20 HILLCREST.

RICHARD BELLO: LET ME SHARE WITH YOU.

RICHARD BELLO: CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN.

YES.

RICHARD BELLO: VERY GOOD, SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THE ADDITION OF A HOME OFFICE ON THE SECOND STORY WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE BUILDING SIZE AS IT'S GOING OVER AN EXISTING MUDROOM.

RICHARD BELLO: THE SITE PLAN HERE AND BLUE SHOWS THE AREA WHERE THE OFFICE IS GOING TO GO.

RICHARD BELLO: LET ME GIVE YOU A LARGER VIEW HERE.

RICHARD BELLO: SO THE FIRST FLOOR HERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ROOF OVER IT HOME OFFICE IS HERE ADJACENT TO THE MASTER BEDROOM, WHICH IS IN KEEPING WITH THE WALL PLANS OF THE MUDROOM BELOW SO WE'RE JUST EXTENDING THIS FIRST FLOOR.

RICHARD BELLO: MASS UP TO A SECOND FLOOR.

RICHARD BELLO: AND AGAIN IN BLUE HERE, SHOWING WHAT'S GOING ON, SO THE EXISTING MUDROOM IS HERE, BRING THESE WALLS STRAIGHT UP WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FLAT ROOF, AND THIS IS THE NEW OFFICE.

RICHARD BELLO: THE REAR.

RICHARD BELLO: IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS DOUBLE WINDOWS, THIS IS A.

RICHARD BELLO: COLUMN HERE TO SUPPORT A ROOF HERE JUST TO COVER THIS REAR STARE.

RICHARD BELLO: GIVE YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE OUTSIDE.

RICHARD BELLO: THIS IS THE EXISTING MUDROOM THE EXISTING STAIRS HERE.

RICHARD BELLO: THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY SO.

RICHARD BELLO: IN THE BACKGROUND, HERE WE CAN SEE THIS MASSING HERE'S WHERE THE NEW OFFICE WILL BE.

RICHARD BELLO: FROM THE FRONT YOU PRETTY MUCH WON'T SEE ANY ANY DIFFERENCE TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FROM THE STREET.

RICHARD BELLO: AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

RICHARD BELLO: I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SIDE AND SOME ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE.

RICHARD BELLO: BASED ON THEIR CONCERNS FOR THE SIZE OF THIS WINDOW SOME SOME ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE.

RICHARD BELLO: AND THAT IS THE BASIC GIST OF THIS ONE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND SAFE TO ASSUME MATERIALS ALL EVERYTHING WILL MATCH EXISTING TION NO ISSUES THERE AND AND.

RICHARD BELLO: YES, YEAH ALL THE SAME MATERIALS TO MATCH PAINTED WHITE SAME SIDING THE WINDOWS, ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME MANUFACTURER THE.

RICHARD BELLO: EXISTING WINDOW.

RICHARD BELLO: THAT'S ON THE BEDROOM HERE IS GOING TO GET RELOCATED AND PUT OVER HERE INTO THIS BEDROOM AS IT IS CURRENTLY TWO SEPARATE SINGLE WINDOWS, SO THESE TWO, SO THIS WINDOW IS GOING TO GET RELOCATED AND PUT OVER HERE.

RICHARD BELLO: I SAW YEAH SAME MATERIALS SAME COLORS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

JIM CORNACCHIA: JUST QUICKLY IF THE BOARD RECALLS, THIS WAS A FAIRLY CONTROVERSIAL.

JIM CORNACCHIA: APPLICANT A COUPLE YEARS, BUT I THINK IT WAS MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF BACK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M.

JIM CORNACCHIA: VERY RELIEVED TO HEAR THAT THE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: APPLICANT WAS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE NEIGHBOR BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNED, I THINK, IN THAT THAT LAST APPLICATION SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS COOPERATION AND I'M GLAD YOU KNOW, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD SO.

RICHARD BELLO: THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH OTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS I WAS THERE A VARIANCE REQUIRED FOR THIS THIS HOME OFFICE EDITION.

RICHARD BELLO: YES, VARIANTS WAS REQUIRED AND GRANTED WE PULL THIS UP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WAS IT FOR FLIR.

RICHARD BELLO: IN 2021 FOR YES FA IR.

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RICHARD BELLO: YEAH SO OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE APPEARS TO HAVE GONE UP.

RICHARD BELLO: JUST UNDER 100 FEET 95 SQUARE FEET.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YEAH IT'S IT'S A TIGHT LOT AND IF YOU RECALL THAT PORCH WAS VERY CONTENTIOUS.

YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I DEFINITELY REMEMBER LOTS OF VARIANCES AND IT SEEMED LIKE NOW IT'S VARIANCES ON TOP OF VARIANCES WITH THIS WILL KNOW WHERE I JUST WONDER GENERALLY WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ONE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ON ON VERY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LINE ON VARIANCES AND IS CAN PILE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER ENDLESSLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BUT OKAY UM SO I GUESS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD ON ARCHITECTURE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: NO, NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M RICHARD CAN YOU SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE WHAT PROCESS WAS GONE THROUGH REGARDING DISCUSSIONS WITH AND INPUT FROM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: JASON NEIGHBORS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FOR THIS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I.

RICHARD BELLO: DON'T HAVE THE FULL BACKGROUND THAT I KNOW THAT IT WAS IT WAS DONE THROUGH THE HOMEOWNER THEMSELVES.

RICHARD BELLO: AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE SIZE OF THIS WINDOW, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED TO BE THE SIZE OF THE EXISTING WINDOWS THAT WERE THERE, SO THEY WERE REDUCED TO.

RICHARD BELLO: BE IN KEEPING WITH THESE TWO SMALLER WINDOWS ON THE SIDE OF THE.

RICHARD BELLO: OF THE CHIMNEY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALRIGHT, SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PENDING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BORDER I'M GOING TO GO TO A MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE A SCOTT AND VICTOR WITH A HAND RAISED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HI SCOTT YOUR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: QUESTIONS COMMENTS.

SCOTT MACVICAR: AND I CAN YOU HEAR ME.

YES.

SCOTT MACVICAR: OKAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ME IT'S GEL IT'S SCOTT I'M SURPRISED SO UM YEAH THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT WE'VE HAD A.

SCOTT MACVICAR: MEETING IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS FOR THIS HOUSE, SO WE WERE DEFINITELY DISAPPOINTED WHEN WE.

SCOTT MACVICAR: WERE APPROACHED BY OUR NEIGHBORS WITH THIS REQUEST IT'S VERY AWKWARD SITUATION TO BE IN AGAIN WE REALLY LIKE OUR NEIGHBORS WE.

SCOTT MACVICAR: THEY'VE BEEN AWFUL AND ENGAGING TO US DURING THIS PROCESS, WHICH HAS BEEN NICE, AND YOU KNOW WE DID WRITE A CONDITIONAL LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR BECAUSE THEY EATING US DURING THE PROCESS WE DID WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

SCOTT MACVICAR: FOR THE FA ARE VARIANTS ON THE CONDITION THAT THE.

SCOTT MACVICAR: YOU KNOW THE THE WINDOWS WERE DECREASED WE WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AFTER AFTER THAT, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD DECREASE THE WINDOWS IN THE ADDITION WE SAID WE'D BECOME WITH ONE OR TWO OF THE SMALL WINDOWS, I SEE THEY PUT TWO WINDOWS IN.

SCOTT MACVICAR: WE WERE SURPRISED, AN ADDITIONAL WINDOW SHOWED UP ON THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THE LEFT THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS THAT WE HAD SEEN.

SCOTT MACVICAR: AND ON WHICH WE WROTE OUR LETTER OF SUPPORT AND WE'VE TALKED TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT IS THEY'VE TOLD US THAT THEY WILL REMOVE ONE OF THOSE WINDOWS.

SCOTT MACVICAR: AND SO I SEE THAT IT'S STILL IN HERE IN THESE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TONIGHT YOU KNOW I I REALLY DO LIKE OUR NEIGHBORS LOT, I WANT TO TRUST THEM.

SCOTT MACVICAR: I THINK WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT THIS HOUSE, SO YOU KNOW I THINK WE MADE SURE WE SHOWED UP AT THE MEETING TONIGHT AND I'M HAPPY THAT WE DID, AND I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT THEY AGREE TO MOVE ONE OF THOSE THOSE.

SCOTT MACVICAR: ON THE LEFT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SCROLL YEAH THOSE TWO SO THAT THOSE THOSE ONE WINDOW ON THE ORIGINAL PLANS.

RICHARD BELLO: SO BASICALLY.

RICHARD BELLO: JUST KEEP THIS WINDOW, THE WAY IT IS.

SCOTT MACVICAR: YEAH THEY SO THEY TOLD US THEY WOULD AGREE THAT.

RICHARD BELLO: OKAY.

SCOTT MACVICAR: AND SO.

JIM CORNACCHIA: AND WOULD IT REMAIN IN THAT POSITION OR WOULD IT BE CENTERED WITHIN THE SPACE.

RICHARD BELLO: I WOULD RECOMMEND IT WOULD STAY THE WAY THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO SO JILL APPRECIATE THE STICKING WITH US, ESPECIALLY IT'S AFTER NINE READY WOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DURING THAT SECOND THAT THE WINDOW THERE SO.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO ISSUES THERE YOU ARE AWARE OF THOSE AND THOSE ARE, AS WAS DISCUSSED, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

SCOTT MACVICAR: THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I THINK THAT IS THAT ANYTHING ELSE JILL A COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

SCOTT MACVICAR: NOW, THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO ANY OTHER ANY ISSUES FROM THE BOARD OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE THE THE THE REQUESTED CHANGE FROM THEM, THEY WERE ON THE TWO WINDOWS TO ONE WINDOW ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M GREAT SO, SO THIS IS A REALLY, THIS IS A MINOR CHANGE, BUT I GUESS, FOR YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, FROM THE THE JASON NEIGHBOR IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED SO SO RICHARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHAT WE'LL DO IS APPROVE THIS THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CHANGE TO THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT WINDOW BACK TO THE SINGLE WINDOW OBVIOUSLY CONFIRM WITH YOUR CLIENTS AND THEN RESUBMIT THOSE DRAWINGS VIA EMAIL, FOR US, WILL REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WINDOWS, YOU KNOW MATCH OUR CONVERSATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW, AN AGREEMENT FROM THIS MEETING, THE EMAIL, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WILL REVIEW IT AND SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH MEANS WE WILL REVIEW IT BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING KIND OF OFFLINE REFLECTING THAT SOUND GOOD.

RICHARD BELLO: YES, THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO THIS THIS WILL GO TO SUB COMMITTEE AND WHERE WE WILL REVIEW IT AND AND TAKE EITHER YOU KNOW FOR FURTHER ACTION OR OR PROVE IT THERE, SO UM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

RICHARD BELLO: OKAY, THANK YOU, LORD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I I HOPE WE DON'T SEE THIS HOUSE AGAIN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: REQUEST.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BECAUSE IT'S GETTING A LITTLE ABSURD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO LET'S HOPE THAT'S IT FOR THIS ONE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT LOOKS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT TO ME I'M MOVING ON YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH THANK YOU MOVING ON TO 152 STUYVESANT AVENUE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND WE ARE WELL PAST THE TWO AND A HALF HOUR MARK, SO WE HAVE, THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE PAGE LEFT TO GO SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR 152 STUYVESANT AVENUE OH YES GREG.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WELCOME GREG AND IF YOU COULD JUST FOR THOSE REMAINING FOR TIME PURPOSES, I BELIEVE, WHEN YOU GET ADDED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT AUTOMATICALLY ADD ADD YOU ON MUTE SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GET MOVED OVER TO PANELISTS YOU CAN PLEASE UNMUTE AND BE PREPARED TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN TO SHOW THE BOARD THE THE APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD HELP US SO A FEW SECONDS HERE AND THERE WILL GET US DONE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT SOONER SO GO AHEAD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREG.

GREG MERCURIO: AND EVERYBODY HEAR ME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, SIR.

GREG MERCURIO: YEAH OKAY I'M TO THE SHARE SCREEN HERE.

GREG MERCURIO: SO, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

GREG MERCURIO: THANKS FOR HEARING OUR PROJECT TODAY.

GREG MERCURIO: SO WHAT WERE, MY NAME IS GREG MERCURIAL I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR CARRIAGE HOUSE GARDENS AND I'M REPRESENTING PAUL AND SARAH LAND.

GREG MERCURIO: AND I WANT 52 STUYVESANT WE'RE PROPOSING A COUPLE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF JUST LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE PROPERTY.

GREG MERCURIO: THAT BEGIN WITH ENTRANCE PEERS AND GATES AT THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE ALONG STUYVESANT AND THEN IN THIS SPAN BETWEEN THESE TWO BRANCHES OF THE REAR HOUSE WE'RE PROPOSING A PATIO THAT LINKS BETWEEN THIS.

GREG MERCURIO: ROOF OVER THE LEFT SIDE, SO THIS IS A COVERED PATIO HERE, AND THIS IS A COVERED PATIO HERE AND WE WILL BE EXTENDING A BLUESTONE PATIO BETWEEN THESE TWO ARMS OF THE OF THE BACK ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE.

GREG MERCURIO: AND THE OTHER LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENT IS WE'RE PROPOSING ALONG THE CENTER LINE OF THIS WING TO DO A PERGOLA AN OUTDOOR FIREPLACE GARDEN ROOM, SO THIS IS THE EXISTING SURVEY.

GREG MERCURIO: AND WAS GOING TO SCROLL THROUGH I GUESS THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HAVE TRADED SEPARATE.

GREG MERCURIO: THIS IS L ONE THE LANDSCAPE SITE PLAN.

GREG MERCURIO: AS YOU CAN SEE, WE.

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GREG MERCURIO: THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF ENTERTAINING DON'T REALLY LEAD FOR A REALLY GREAT FLOW BETWEEN THIS COVERED SPACE HERE, AND THIS COVERED SPACE HERE, AND WHEN WE SEE THE PHOTOS YOU'LL SEE IT JUST KIND OF STEPS DOWN TO SOME.

GREG MERCURIO: BLUE STONE IN THE GRASS BASICALLY BACK HERE RIGHT NOW THAT DOESN'T REALLY AMOUNT TO A REAL.

GREG MERCURIO: USABLE SPACE WITH THE GRASS JOINTS BETWEEN EVERYTHING, SO THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT ON THAT SPACE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPE IN THERE I'LL SCROLL DOWN TO THE NEXT.

GREG MERCURIO: AGAIN HERE'S WHERE THOSE ON PIERS WE'RE GOING TO GO AND WE FOLLOW THE TOWN CODE FOR THAT AND SAME THING ON THIS OTHER SIDE AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THIS FIREPLACE AREA, SO LET ME SCROLL DOWN AND ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.

GREG MERCURIO: SO THESE ARE JUST SOME MORE DETAILS OF THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THERE'S THIS I'LL KEEP SCROLLING THROUGH, BUT THIS IS A FIREPLACE YOU'LL SEE THE VIEWS OF THE PERGOLA THE PORTAL OF SIT ON A MASONRY BASE.

GREG MERCURIO: THIS IS A DETAIL FOR THE PIER THE DETAIL FOR THE GATES I BELIEVE THEY ALL WITHIN THE CODE.

GREG MERCURIO: SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING SITE CONDITIONS.

GREG MERCURIO: SORRY ABOUT THAT.

GREG MERCURIO: AS YOU COULD SEE THIS WAS THAT BLUESTONE AREA WITH THE GRASS JOINT SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE SWEEPING ACROSS THE BACK.

GREG MERCURIO: THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE BACK OF THE HOUSE WE'RE USING SOME OF THESE EXISTING ARCHITECTURE IN OUR PERGOLA DESIGN AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF US.

GREG MERCURIO: THIS IS THE EXISTING COVERED PORCH AND ALONG THE CENTER LINE MOVING BACK TO THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS EXACTLY BASICALLY THIS PLACE IN THE YARD.

GREG MERCURIO: THIS IS WHERE THAT PERGOLA AND IT'S JUST AN OUTDOOR FIREPLACE WOULD BE GOING.

GREG MERCURIO: THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING CURB CUTS ON THE STUYVESANT.

GREG MERCURIO: ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HORSESHOE DRIVEWAY.

GREG MERCURIO: AND THEN WE KIND OF GET INTO THE VIEWS, WHERE YOU COULD SEE WHAT THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE POPPED UP INTO 3D.

GREG MERCURIO: THIS IS THE DESIGN HERE THE ONE ELEMENT ON HERE THAT I KIND OF NOTICED THAT JUST KIND OF CARRY THROUGH WHERE THESE PIECES HERE ARE NOT EXISTING AND WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THEM AT THIS POINT, BUT IT WAS A PART OF ONE OF THE ORIGINAL RENDERINGS WHICH.

GREG MERCURIO: FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, I JUST FIGURED I'D MENTIONED THAT THE EXISTING STONEWORK IS THE PROPOSED ON WORK IS TO MATCH THE EXISTING FOUNDATION STONE WORK AT THE HOUSE BLUE STONE IS THE FLAGGING MATERIAL.

GREG MERCURIO: YOU COULD SEE HERE'S THE PERGOLA OVER ON THE SIDE YARD.

GREG MERCURIO: ANOTHER VIEW OF THE PERGOLA FROM THAT EXISTING COVERED PORCH.

GREG MERCURIO: THERE'S KIND OF LIKE A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE SPACE.

GREG MERCURIO: AND THESE ARE JUST SOME MORE DIMENSIONS AND WHATNOT ON THE FIREPLACE IN THE PERGOLA.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

GREG MERCURIO: SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT NEW STONE ENTRANCE PEERS AND WOULDN'T GATES REAR PERGOLA NEW STONE PATIO STEPS AND THERE WAS A SEATING WALL IN THAT COMPONENT THERE.

GREG MERCURIO: THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF TO EXPAND THAT ENTERTAINING SPACE ON THIS REAR ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE TO MAKE A REAL FLOW AND CONNECTION ALONG THE WHOLE PACK ELEVATION AS WELL AS ADDING ESSENTIALLY ANOTHER GARDEN ROOM WITH OUTDOOR FIREPLACES AND PERGOLA.

GREG MERCURIO: ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I'M GREAT, SO I THINK LET'S TAKE LET'S JUST TAKE THE PIECES PIECES PARTS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE OUTDOOR PATIO.

OH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, LET ME ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON THE PERGOLA FIREPLACE STRUCTURE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THROWING CAN IT BE WITH BURNING, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE GAS.

GREG MERCURIO: OF THE IDEAL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WAS THAT I WAS GOING TO BE WOOD BURNING, AND IN ADDITION.

GREG MERCURIO: WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER THERE WAS GOING TO BE POSSIBLY A PIZZA OVEN BUILT INTO THIS SIDE OF IT.

GREG MERCURIO: WE'RE STILL KIND OF GOING THROUGH BUDGETING AND.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I TESTED, MY QUESTION WAS DIRECTED AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS.

KERRY LENIHAN: YES, THE THE FIREPLACE IT COULD BE WHAT BURNING.

GREG MERCURIO: WOOD BURNING IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM.

FRANK GADALETA: CAN WE SEE THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE.

GREG MERCURIO: SURE, YES.

FRANK GADALETA: AND WHERE THAT FIREPLACES LOCATED, OF COURSE.

GREG MERCURIO: WELL, JUST FOR THE PHOTO SAKE IT'S KIND OF RIGHT ALONG THE BACK OF THESE EXISTING EVERGREENS.

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GREG MERCURIO: AND THEN HERE'S A SITE PLAN.

GREG MERCURIO: THAT SHOWS WHERE IT IS WE PUT IT AS A 10 FOOT SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WELL, WHERE ARE THE OTHER HOUSES IN CONTEXT TO THE SITE.

GREG MERCURIO: I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

GREG MERCURIO: IT'S A CORK, IS THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, AND I MEAN FROM SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, THE ONLY THING COULD SAY IS THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SCREENING.

GREG MERCURIO: BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES AT THAT JUNCTURE THERE'S LIKE DOUBLE SCREENING I THINK SHE HAS GREEN GIANTS ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 30 FEET TALL 25 TO 30 FEET TALL NOW.

GREG MERCURIO: SO NO I I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY IN THIS PICTURE WHAT WHERE EXACTLY IS THAT PERGOLA FIREPLACE.

GREG MERCURIO: GOING IT'S UM.

GREG MERCURIO: SO THE PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN FROM THIS LOCATION, RIGHT HERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

GREG MERCURIO: BACK TOWARDS THE PROPERTY LINE SO.

GREG MERCURIO: SO THIS WILL BE THE WHAT I'D BE TAKING A PHOTOGRAPH OF SO THIS WOULD BE THE CENTER LINE OF THE FIREPLACE AND IT WOULD PROBABLY SPAN FROM LIKE RIGHT ABOUT OVER HERE TO SOMEWHERE OVER HERE IT'S.

GREG MERCURIO: IT'S A DECENT SIZED GARDEN ROOM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS ALL EXISTING THERE IS THERE ANY NEW PROPOSED GAMING.

GREG MERCURIO: WE HAVE NOT, I BELIEVE THIS LELAND CYPRESS AND THIS FRONT SHRUBBERY NEEDS TO COME OUT.

GREG MERCURIO: AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO KIND OF EVALUATE IT.

GREG MERCURIO: AT THAT POINT, BUT WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED ANYTHING BUT, CLEARLY, YOU KNOW THE OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO IF THERE ARE ANY GAPS IN THE EVERGREEN SCREENING BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES, WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MM HMM.

JIM CORNACCHIA: COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE YES.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THERE YOU GO SO IS THIS GOING TO BE VISIBLE FROM STREET.

GREG MERCURIO: YEAH I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY IS A PRIVATE HEDGE ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY LINE WOULD ASSUME THERE WOULD BE A WINDOW OF VIEW IN FROM THIS CURB CUT HERE.

GREG MERCURIO: THERE'S CURRENTLY ANOTHER FENCE THAT GOES ACROSS THE PROPERTY LONG ACROSS THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BREAK IT.

UP.

GREG MERCURIO: FOR ANYONE IN A VEHICLE.

GREG MERCURIO: LIMITED I WOULD SAY IT'S KIND OF LIMITED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY HE'S NOT SPEAKING JUST PLEASE, PLEASE GO ON MUTE THANK YOU.

SCOTT MACVICAR: OH SHOULD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO THE YEAH, SO I THINK THE YEAH MAKE A GOOD POINT IT IS OBVIOUSLY IN VIEW OF IT'S NOT KIND OF IN THE BACKYARD, BUT IT'S KIND OF IN THE SIDE YARD KIND OF IN BOTH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO CERTAINLY HAVE YOU THERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO IT WOULD BE HARD TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HARD TO SAY IT SEEMS LIKE A SCREEN IN THE BACK, BUT FROM THE FRONT IT'S IT WOULD BE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I THINK I YOU KNOW.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE AND.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I THINK IT'S VISIBLE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

JIM CORNACCHIA: IT'S IT'S A PRETTY LARGE STRUCTURE, I MEAN CONTEXT TO THE HOUSE IT'S IT'S IT'S IN KEEPING BUT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT, I THINK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE'S ONE MORE SO IT'S THE PATIO THE PERGOLA OF FIREPLACE AND THEN GATES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PURE ENGAGE.

GREG MERCURIO: ENTRANCE GATES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND PARENTS YEP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND YOU HAVE ELEVATIONS OF THOSE.

GREG MERCURIO: YEAH SURE WELL THAT'S THE DETAIL RIGHT THERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY VIEW DRAWINGS OF IT.

GREG MERCURIO: BUT IT'S A IT'S THE MAX HEIGHT IT'S A FOUR FOOT PIER.

GREG MERCURIO: HAVE A THREE INCH BLUESTONE CAP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT BELOW THERE, THERE IS ACTUALLY A.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SURE ELEVATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEP SO IN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ON THE EXISTING SITE PLAN ASCEND GATES BUT THERE'S NO GATES THERE RIGHT NOW CORRECT.

GREG MERCURIO: THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE SOME GATES ON THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY.

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GREG MERCURIO: SO THAT WOULD BE REMOVED, WE WOULD BE TAKING THOSE OUT AND ADJUSTING SOME OF THE.

GREG MERCURIO: THAT FENCE COMPONENT THERE OF THE PROPERTY PROBABLY REMOVING THAT FENCE.

GREG MERCURIO: BUT I DON'T SO LET ME GO BACK TO THAT.

GREG MERCURIO: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DRAWN ON THE PLAN.

GREG MERCURIO: WOULD BE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WELL, I DON'T KNOW IT DOES SAY GATE THERE BUT THAT'S NOT ACCURATE, THERE IS A GATE.

GREG MERCURIO: MORE LIKE OVER HERE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW ON THIS SIDE, JUST TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RESTRICT YEAH YEAH THERE'S NO THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY GATES FOR US AND LOOK YOU GO STREET THE OKAY SO SO I I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE STREET, AND YOU KNOW DRIVING DOWN A NUMBER OF TIMES A LOT LOTS OF HOUSES HAVE THOSE PEERS, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THEY'RE VERY FEW HOUSES HAVE GATES SO, CAN YOU TALK TO ME WHY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THE RATIONALE BEHIND GATES ON A STREET THAT THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE VAST MAJORITY OF HOUSES DON'T HAVE GATES.

GREG MERCURIO: I BELIEVE IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH FENCING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, FOR I THINK THEY HAVE PETS OR PLANNING ON GETTING A PUPPY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES YEAH.

GREG MERCURIO: SO WE WERE GONNA I THINK THAT THEY HAD.

GREG MERCURIO: THEIR KIDS HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OLDER, SO THEY THEY'RE THINKING OF YOU KNOW ADJUSTING THE LIMITS OF THESE FENCING THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE TO REALLY LEAVE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY OPEN.

YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE'S EDGES THERE, SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR FOR DOGS BUT ANYWAY UM SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE PIERS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TOTALLY IN KEEPING WITH ALL THE HOUSES UP AND DOWN STEIN THIS IN THERE, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE GATES, AND IF ANYBODY HAS LISTENED TO THESE MEETINGS OR IF MY VAR MEMBER MEMBERS WILL TELL YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW GATES GATING OFF PROPERTIES AND FENCING OFF ENTIRE PROPERTIES IS NOT NOT REALLY THAT TYPICAL AND RIDE IN THE HONEST I MEAN YOU CAN GO UP TO UPTOWN GREENWICH YOU KNOW UPCOUNTRY GET GREENWICH AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT'S THE NORM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NORM HERE AND RYAN IT'S NOT THE NORM ON THE STREET SO I'M YOU KNOW PEERS NO PROBLEM GATES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GATES OR A HARD KNOW FOR ME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT IN KEEPING WITH RYAN, NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE STREET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PERIOD SO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: WILL CHIME IN HERE I.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: THINK THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM DOES HAVE GATES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I THINK THAT WE WANT ON THE STREET YEAH AND THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S EXCEPTIONS, CERTAINLY, TO THE RULE ABSOLUTELY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BUT THE RULE IS NO GATES GENERALLY AND RYE, AND ON THE STREET AND CERTAINLY FOREST AVENUE AND EQUIVALENT STREETS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY BUT YEAH FAIR ENOUGH THERE'S DOES ONCE AND TUESDAYS HERE AND THERE, YEAH.

GREG MERCURIO: WELL.

GREG MERCURIO: IT'S A DOOZY ACROSS THE STREET, THOUGH, TOO, BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH WELL THERE'S ALSO NINE OTHER HOUSES JASON TO THIS ONE THAT DON'T HAVE GATE SO UM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THEN PEERS AND GAY PROPOSAL.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, MICHAEL.

JIM CORNACCHIA: ON THE KEY.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YEAH FEARS FINE.

FRANK GADALETA: YEAH I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE OF THE GATES EITHER.

FRANK GADALETA: I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH REGARDING I'M SORRY TO GO BACK TO THE OUTDOOR FIREPLACE.

FRANK GADALETA: THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND HAVE THEY.

FRANK GADALETA: BEEN CONSULTED, DO YOU KNOW.

FRANK GADALETA: GREG.

GREG MERCURIO: I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH MRS QUIRK REGARDING THIS.

GREG MERCURIO: AND AS FAR AS WHETHER CALL OR SARAH HAVE SPOKEN WITH HER I'M NOT SURE YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY DID THE NEIGHBOR NOTIFICATION AND ALL.

FRANK GADALETA: NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT.

GREG MERCURIO: BUT NO, I MEAN I.

GREG MERCURIO: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

GREG MERCURIO: WITH WORKED WITH HER IN THE PAST.

HEY.

PAUL LEAND: I'M NOT SURE I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME OR NOT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES.

PAUL LEAND: SORRY, THIS IS PAULIE AND I JUST THOUGHT COMMENT ON A COUPLE THINGS JUST JUST REAL QUICKLY.

PAUL LEAND: IN TERMS OF IT, THE PURPOSE IN TERMS OF THE GATES HAS REALLY BECOME SAFETY WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES OF PEOPLE COME.

PAUL LEAND: COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY I THINK THAT'S, I THINK, FRANKLY, IF YOU WERE TO HEAD DOWN STUYVESANT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE SURPRISED HOW MANY.

PAUL LEAND: HOUSES DO HAVE GATES NOW NOT ONLY OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, BUT ADJACENT TO US AND DOWN THE STREET AS WELL, AND I THINK IT'S JUST BECOME.

PAUL LEAND: AN A CRAZY A INCREASING ISSUE WE'VE HAD THE POLICE WE'VE HAD TO HAVE THE POLICE OUT OF NUMBER OF TIMES WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY AND IT'S BECOME A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE LOOK WE DON'T WE DON'T FRANKLY.

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PAUL LEAND: THAT THAT THAT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUESTS PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

PAUL LEAND: IN TERMS OF THE THE PERGOLA I WILL TELL YOU I DON'T CANDIDLY I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SEE IT FROM FROM THE ROAD, BUT I WILL TELL YOU.

PAUL LEAND: AND YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE BUDGETING AND THE REST OF IT, FRANKLY, THAT IS A THAT'S THIRD ON THE LIST IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW THE BACK PATIO AND THE GATES ARE OUR TOP PRIORITIES AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANKS PAUL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SO I GUESS LET'S GO GO TO ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE WELL I'M SORRY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THE PATIO THE PERGOLA AND PEERS AND GATES.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WELL, I THINK, RETURNING TO THE GATE WOULD WOULD THERE BE ANY CONSIDERATION OF CHANGING OF MATERIALS OR OR OR.

JIM CORNACCHIA: STYLE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: TO LESSEN.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: IMPACT OF OF IT, LOOKING LIKE A HARD GAME, I MEAN THERE'S WAYS THAT YOU CAN RESTRICT ACCESS AND AND.

GREG MERCURIO: I'LL JUST JUMP IN THEY ARE PICKETS, SO THERE IS UM.

GREG MERCURIO: THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CONCEPT HERE IS NOT A SOLID.

JIM CORNACCHIA: AND THAT BUT THERE'S THERE'S OTHER THERE'S OTHER TECHNIQUES AND STYLES, THAT YOU CAN USE THAT WOULD REDUCE THE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: VISUAL IMPACT OF A GEEK BUT STILL PROVIDE A GATE LIKE BLOCKAGE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WOULD YOU.

GREG MERCURIO: LIKE A STEEL LIKE A METAL CAST IRON GATE OR SOMETHING WITH A SMALLER MASS TO IT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: POSSIBLY.

PAUL LEAND: I THINK THE ANSWER I SAY FROM MY PAUL AGAIN MY PERSPECTIVE, THE ANSWERS SURE WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONSIDER ANYTHING I THINK THAT.

PAUL LEAND: WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO, FRANKLY, IS IS IS MIRROR OR MATCH THE OTHER, THE OTHER FENCES AND GATES IN THE AREA, INCLUDING THE ONE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, SO I THINK THAT IT'S.

PAUL LEAND: YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE AESTHETICS, I THINK THAT WE HAVE NO HARD AND FAST RULES, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH.

PAUL LEAND: WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AND KEEPING WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURES IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE THAT ALREADY EXISTS ON THE STREET SO HAPPY THAT YOU CAN SAY.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS SKATES.

JIM CORNACCHIA: COME TO US THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED DOWN, I THINK THIS IS THIS IS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THIS IS SLIPPERY SLOPE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND YEAH.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WE APPROVE ONE GATE THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF FEELING WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF APPLICANTS ON ON FOR US THAT HAVE COME TO US AND SAID, WE WANT TO PUT DATES FOR FOR LESSER REASONS AND WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I THINK IT PUTS US IN A DIFFICULT SPOT YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO IT YEAH GEMMA AGREED, YOU KNOW I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW RYAN, IS NOT A IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY NEW PERSON MOVING IN THE RYE WANTS TO THE FENCE OFF THEIR ENTIRE PROPERTY AND PUT GATES UP BUT, OF COURSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT'S PROBABLY THAT'S AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION AND EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR OWN REASONS I YOU KNOW I THINK BEING FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THE STREET, BUT NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT WITH THE CONTEXT OF THE THE PERGOLA BEING VISIBLE OR NOT, AND WHAT HOUSES HAVE OR DON'T HAVE GAINED SO APPEARS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AND RATHER THAN SPECULATE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE THIS PROJECT TO ALLOW THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE UP AND DOWN THAT STREET AND TO AND TO LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND TO LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY FOR WHAT'S VISIBLE WHAT'S NOT VISIBLE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHAT'S IN KEEPING WHAT'S NOT IN KEEPING BECAUSE I'M FAMILIAR ENOUGH TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS, BUT NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH TO SAY ANYTHING DEFINITIVELY SO WHAT DOES THE BOARD, THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE I GOT TO GO OUT LOOK AT THIS AGAIN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I'M YOU KNOW.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I'M A MEMBER GLOBALLY SO I'M DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME YEAH I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THERE'S THERE'S MORE GATES, BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK YEAH.

FRANK GADALETA: I'M MICHAEL I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, YOU KNOW I DRIVE DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME, TOO, AND I GUESS, I NEVER REALLY TAKE NOTICE OF IT, AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THE GATES ARE OFTEN OPEN SO I'M NOT AWARE THAT THERE ACTUALLY ARE GATES THERE BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

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FRANK GADALETA: MAYBE CONSIDER AS JIM WAS SUGGESTING MAYBE SOME OTHER MATERIALS.

NANCY PATOTA: PROFILE.

FRANK GADALETA: MAYBE DON'T STAND OUT AS MUCH YEP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO YEAH GREAT COMMENT THERE APPRECIATE THAT I MEAN JUST WANT TO GIVE AN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT, JUST BECAUSE THE BOARD WANTS TO GO OUT AND VISIT THE AREA.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I WOULD JUST SAY JUST FROM PERSONAL MY PERSONAL FEELING IS GATES ARE GOING TO BE A VERY TALL ORDER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BECAUSE THAT THAT'S JUST NOT I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PERSONAL REASONS WHY SOMEBODY WOULD WANT TO COMPLETELY FENCE THEIR YARD AND PUT UP GATES AND WALL OFF THEIR THEIR PROPERTY FROM FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW THAT'S VERY TYPICAL, FOR I DESPITE THE WEALTH AND DESPITE THE THE ESTATES THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT IS A TYPICAL FOR RY THAT IS MORE IN KEEPING WITH OTHER OTHER LOCATION SO AND THAT'S REALLY OUR PURVIEW IS TO REVIEW THINGS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IN TERMS OF THEIR THEIR FIT AND APPROPRIATENESS FOR FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE FOR THE COMMUNITY SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I JUST WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY ON A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WITH ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROJECT AT 152 STUYVESANT AVENUE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT WE WILL BE IN THIS PROPERTY THIS PROJECT BACK NEXT NEXT SESSION.

PAUL LEAND: IS JUST ONE ONE QUICK QUESTION AGAIN SPOT, IS THERE ANY WAY, IS THERE ANY WAY TO JUST A BIFURCATED THIS AND LOOK AT THE.

PAUL LEAND: I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEWS AND ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE DRIVE BACK AND FORTH, AND WE NEED TO BE COMFORTABLE, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO BUY FOR KATE THIS FOR THE BACK PATIO ALONE AND FORGET, ASIDE FROM THE BURGLAR AND THE GATES AND PICK THOSE UP SEPARATELY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH NOT NOT REALLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT WAS SUBMITTED ON YOUR OWN ONE APPLICATION.

PAUL LEAND: FROM THE END.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IS IS NO UNLESS SOMEBODY FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WANTS TO CORRECT ME.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: NOW THAT'S CORRECT THERE'S ONE APPLICATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH IT WAS YEAH SUBMITTED AS ONE, SO WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IT AS ONE I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT BUT AND LOOK WE'LL WE'LL GET OUT THERE, BETWEEN NOW THE NEXT MEETING FOR SURE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY EXTRA TIME OF OUR TIME OR YOUR THE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO SO.

GREG MERCURIO: THE QUESTION BEFORE WE FINISH UP HOW WOULD WE PROCEED SEE THE GATE WAS NOT APPROVED AT THE NEXT MEETING, ARE WE THEN BACK TO SQUARE ONE, WITH STARTING A NEW APPLICATION WITHOUT THE GATES, OR WE JUST ADMITTING THAT FROM THE PLANS HOW DOES THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WORK OUT I DON'T WANNA I DON'T WANT TO PRESUME ANY SPECIFIC OUTCOME FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO REMOVE OR TWEAK ELEMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT GO TO OUR SO COMMITTEE, WHICH BASICALLY WOULD BE MINOR CHANGES TO THE DESIGN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE REVISIT TO THE MEETING AND NOT ARE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW, EXTENSIVE DELAY SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE'S WAYS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE'S WAYS TO DEAL WITH MINOR ADJUSTMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE APPLICATION AND THERE'S ALWAYS COMING BACK AS WELL IF THERE'S MAJOR ISSUES.

FRANK GADALETA: MIGHT GO TONIGHT I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO APPROVE TO SUBCOMMITTEE JUST THE REAR PATIO WITHOUT THE FIREPLACE IN THE GATES.

FRANK GADALETA: AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WELL, THEY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT'S A PRETTY MAJOR CHANGE, I GUESS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE ELEMENTS FROM THIS APPLICATION AND REFILE WITH THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS AS A SEPARATE NEW, SEPARATE APPLICATION, I BELIEVE.

FRANK GADALETA: CORRECT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US WITH A NEW APPLICATION WITH FOR THE GATES, AND FOR THE FIREPLACE BUT I'M HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT THAT HE WANTS TO.

FRANK GADALETA: GET A MOVE ON WITH THE PATIO.

YEAH.

FRANK GADALETA: MR LES AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

PAUL LEAND: NO, THAT IS CORRECT, I MEAN I LOVE I LOVE TO THE CASE WELL, BUT I THINK THAT I COMPLETELY I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOU WANT MORE TIME TO TAKE ON THAT IT'S, JUST AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IN IN IN.

PAUL LEAND: FINDING CONTRACTORS TO START THINGS IN A TIMELY MANNER IN THIS ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT AND SO, IF THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY AROUND THE BACK PATIO I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO JUST START THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WELL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, I'M.

FRANK GADALETA: JUST MISS MR LEE AND JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS.

FRANK GADALETA: YOUR ARCHITECT WOULD REMOVE THE GATES AND THE FIREPLACE FROM THE PLANS.

FRANK GADALETA: SUBMIT THEM BY EMAIL, WE WOULD APPROVE THEM WITHOUT THOSE THOSE TWO STRUCTURES AND JUST TO PROVE THE PATIO AND THEN, IF YOU WANT THE GATES IN THE FIREPLACE LATER, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A WHOLE NEW APPLICATION FOR THOSE ITEMS.

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FRANK GADALETA: IT'S JUST.

FRANK GADALETA: PROCEDURALLY, I THINK IT WORKS MICHAEL.

FRANK GADALETA: I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT THE DAWN OF DO DO YOU DISAGREE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: THE APPLICATION WILL STILL GO FORWARD WITH REVIEW.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: EVEN THOUGH IT HAS NOT BEEN FULLY APPROVED BY THE VAR SO THEY CAN CONTINUE IT LET'S SEE WHERE IT GOES WITHIN THE TWO WEEKS.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: OF THE NEXT MEETING.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: THESE.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: ENGINEERING WILL GO FORWARD WITH APPROVAL, SO IT WON'T WHETHER THEY TAKE OFF THE FIREPLACE OR KEEP IT WILL NOT HOLD UP THE PROJECT PER SE YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO I GUESS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ONS COMMENT AS THERE'S A THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER PERMIT ACTIVITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED THAT THAT AFTER A BA OUR MEETING AND THOSE WILL CONTINUE AND LIKELY WOULDN'T BE DONE BY THE TIME WE MEET AGAIN ANYWAY SO THERE'S REALLY NO THERE'S NO DELAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY I'M HERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO LET'S LET'S CONTINUE IT MR LEE AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION THAT BECAUSE THE OTHER PERMIT ACTIVITIES WILL PROBABLY GET YOU TO THE SAME PLACE ON THE BACK PATIO ANYWAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND PROBABLY JUST SAVE US SOME TIME AND EFFORT, ON THE OTHER TWO ELEMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND IF WE GET IF WE GET TO IMPASSE AT THE NEXT MEETING, THEN WE CAN PERHAPS GO THAT ROUTE.

PAUL LEAND: I'M WE'RE JUST.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, GREAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE 152 STEPS AND AVENUE, THANK YOU.

PAUL LEAND: THANKS GUYS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM NEXT APPLICATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: 24 STUYVESANT AVENUE OH YEAH BUT JUST ONE SIDE AND THAT'S 124 STEPHESON POOL HOT TUB PATIO LANDSCAPING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANYBODY STILL WITH US.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: I'M NOT BUT.

SJLA OFFICE: GOOD EVENING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT.

SJLA OFFICE: YOU HEAR ME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, WE CAN.

SJLA OFFICE: EITHER SHOW AND JANICE KEEP LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, GOOD EVENING, MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

SJLA OFFICE: I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN HERE AND I HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I CAN REVIEW.

SJLA OFFICE: EXCELLENT I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE VERTEX FOR A SWIMMING POOL WITH A PERGOLA AND SOME PATIO AND LANDSCAPING WORK ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SJLA OFFICE: HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWING THE PLACEMENT OF THE POOL.

SJLA OFFICE: AND PERGOLA NEXT TO IT, ALONG WITH PROPOSED ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS.

SJLA OFFICE: HERE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHOW THE POOL LOCATION HERE'S A VIEW, LOOKING TO THE NORTH, WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS A THE BACK OF A GARAGE OF ONE NEIGHBOR.

SJLA OFFICE: AND I'LL PULL UP THIS AERIAL IMAGE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE, BUT THE POOL IS PROPOSED, RIGHT IN THE LAWN AREA JUST THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

SJLA OFFICE: RAJ AND THE PHOTO IS KIND OF HIDDEN IN THE SHADE OF THESE TREES.

SJLA OFFICE: NO REAL VIEW IMPACT TO THAT NEIGHBOR THE NEIGHBOR TO THE BACK HERE, THE HOUSE IS KIND OF KITTY CORNER SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY BEHIND THE POOL AREA.

SJLA OFFICE: BUT I DID HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE OWNER WHO IS PETER ROLAND THE ESTEEMED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AND THE PLANS AND HE HAS NO OBJECTION TO IT SO HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

SJLA OFFICE: MAYBE A PICTURE'S HELPFUL HERE'S A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED WORK THAT SHOWS THE POOL THE PATIO AND THE SHADE PERGOLA.

SJLA OFFICE: AROUND IT.

SJLA OFFICE: AND THERE'S VERY GOOD SCREENING AND WE'VE SUBMITTED SOME PHOTOGRAPHS SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT THANKS, SO THE THE EXISTING SCREENING, THAT THERE IS, BY AND LARGE, WELL, WILL PROVIDE THE SCREENING FOR THE POOL, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS ENHANCEMENTS OR CHANGES TO THAT EXISTING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SCREEN.

SJLA OFFICE: EXACTLY THERE'S SOME GOOD SIZED EVERGREENS JUST BEHIND THE PROPERTY LINE HERE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN WE'RE FILLING IN ANY GAPS THAT MAY SHOW UP WITH ADDITIONAL EVERGREENS SOME VARIETY SHRUBS AND TREES.

SJLA OFFICE: AND THEN.

SJLA OFFICE: ON THE STUYVESANT ST ST FIVE THERE ARE NUMBER, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE SURVEY AND 18 INCH PINE AND AT PINE A 14 INCH BEACH SO THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD THICK.

SJLA OFFICE: EXISTING SCREEN AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME MORE ALONG THE STREET SIDE IN THE POOL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AM SORRY THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT HERE, MOST OF THAT IS EXISTING IS THAT.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT OKAY UNDERSTOOD SO PRETTY EXTENSIVE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

SJLA OFFICE: YES, I MEAN TO YOUR POINT ABOUT SCREENING I FIND MOST CLIENTS THAT PUT POOLS IN WANT THE PRIVACY MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE DOES.

YEP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UNDERSTOOD AND SORRY JUST IF YOU COULD JUST TRACE THE POOL FENCE AND SHOW SHOW US WHERE THE POOL EQUIPMENT AS WELL WE'RE ON THE ON.

SJLA OFFICE: THE POOL EQUIPMENT OVER HERE TO THE LEFT OF THE HOUSE MEETING SET BACK AND HAS EXISTING SHRUBS AND.

SJLA OFFICE: AROUND THAT'S WHERE THE GENERATOR IS.

SJLA OFFICE: AND THE HOUSE ALREADY HAS A PRETTY CONTINUOUS FENCE A COMBINATION OF PICK IT AND SOLID WOOD AND IT'LL BE MODIFIED AS NEEDED WITH SELF-CLOSING GATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MEET POOL BARRIER CODE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RIGHT AND THE FENCES JUST IN THAT KIND OF THE REAR OF THE ART AND RETURNS TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

SJLA OFFICE: YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT BLUE LINE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH OKAY, I SEE YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY QUESTIONS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

JIM CORNACCHIA: NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO UM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC FOR 24 STEPHESON POOL PERGOLA PATIO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I I'M NOT SEEING ANY, SO IT IS APPROVED, THANK YOU.

SJLA OFFICE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LIKE YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MOVING ON TO ADD TO RIDE BEACH AVENUE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE HAVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: LOU DEMOCRACY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GO AHEAD LOU.

LOU DEMASI: TO BE HERE, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT IT'S A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON EXISTING LOT WE'RE LOOKING TO.

LOU DEMASI: TAKE DOWN THE EXISTING HOUSE AND REPLACE IT WITH A NEW HOUSE.

LOU DEMASI: I'M SHARING MY SCREEN, LET ME KNOW IF THIS COMES UP.

LOU DEMASI: DO YOU SEE PICTURES.

LOU DEMASI: YEAH WE SEE THE PICTURE YEAH THE EXISTING HOUSE, LOOKING AT THE FRONT ELEVATION THEN I'LL TRY TO SCROLL DOWN HERE.

LOU DEMASI: ELEVATIONS OF THE EXISTING HOUSE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING DOWN.

LOU DEMASI: THERE'S A DETACHED GARAGE IT'S IN THE BACK IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE REMOVED, ON THIS PROPERTY.

LOU DEMASI: VIEW OF THE HOUSE, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY ANOTHER.

LOU DEMASI: FEW MORE, THIS IS A NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT TO RIGHT I'M NOT SURE, BUT THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR.

LOU DEMASI: DIRECTLY TO THE SIDE.

LOU DEMASI: VIEW FROM THE BACK.

LOU DEMASI: VIEW OF THE OTHER NEIGHBOR ON THE OPPOSING SIDE AND.

LOU DEMASI: A VIEW FROM THE GARAGE TO THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND HIS PROPERTY.

LOU DEMASI: ALSO, BEHIND THE PROPERTY IS ANOTHER HOUSE THERE AND THE LAST HOUSE YOU COULD SEIZE IS RIGHT HERE.

LOU DEMASI: AS FAR AS THE PLANS, LET ME KNOW IF THE PLANS CAME UP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I WE'RE SEEING THAT HAPPEN ELEMENT.

LOU DEMASI: ELEVATION GOOD OKAY, THIS IS THE PROPOSED FRONT ELEVATION.

LOU DEMASI: WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH A YOU KNOW WHITE CEDAR FOR THE SIDING PAINTED WHITE.

LOU DEMASI: WHITE WINDOWS AND THE ROOF IS GOING TO BE ACTUALLY A WARDROBE WHAT SOME COPPER ACCENTS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME COPPER ON THIS ROOF HERE AND I'LL SHOW YOU ON ON REAR ELEVATION AS WELL ON THE BOTTOM WHERE THEY'RE.

LOU DEMASI: AT THE COVERED PORTS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME STONEWORK HERE AND HERE ANOTHER SIDE PORTS THAT LEADS OUT TO THE MUDROOM.

LOU DEMASI: THAT'S THE FRONT ELEVATION.

LOU DEMASI: SCROLL DOWN TO THE OTHER SIDE.

LOU DEMASI: SO THIS IS A SIDE ELEVATION LOOKING AT THE GARAGE THE GARAGE OR TOWARDS THE BACK AND FACING THE SIDE THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.

LOU DEMASI: JUST IT JUST WORKED OUT WELL WITH THE SITE TO DO THIS, LIKE KIND OF L SHAPED LOOK TO THIS HOUSE YOU'RE LOOKING HERE IS THE MUD ROOM WITH ANOTHER LITTLE SIDE PORCH.

LOU DEMASI: OTHER SIDE IS JUST WINDOWS TRYING TO PLACE THEM IN IN SOME KIND OF PATTERN FASHION, WHERE I COULD ALIGN THEM I'D LIKE TO ALIGN THEM AND THEN THIS I THOUGHT LOOKED NICE A DOUBLE WINDOW AND THEN TWO SEPARATE WINDOWS ON THAT SIDE.

LOU DEMASI: THESE ARE WINDOW, THIS IS A WINDOW WELL, THIS IS A STAIRCASE GOING DOWN TO THE BASEMENT FOR FUTURE YOU KNOW FINISHING IT OFF AND HAVING IT AS A RIGOROUS IN AND OUT OF THE BASEMENT THERE.

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LOU DEMASI: AND ONE MORE ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE REAR AGAIN, YOU SEE THE CHIMNEY THE COVERED PORCH WITH A FIREPLACE UNDERNEATH IT AND THEN ALSO, THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE GARAGE AND THE PEOPLE.

LOU DEMASI: ABOVE THE WASH.

LOU DEMASI: HERE'S ANOTHER LITTLE ACCIDENT OF COPPER AND THEN THE REST OF IT'S GOING TO BE THE WORD SHINGLE ROOF WHAT YOU SEE FROM THE REAR.

JIM CORNACCHIA: GREAT SITE PLAN.

LOU DEMASI: SO I HAVE A LANDSCAPING PLAN, I BELIEVE, WITH THIS TONIGHT IS MIKE.

LOU DEMASI: WHO'S A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, HOPEFULLY, STILL ON THIS IS LOCATION OF THE EXISTING HOUSE THE EXISTING CURB CUTS GOING TO STAY IN THAT IT TRAVELS TO THE BACKYARD TO GET TO THE GARAGE THAT'S SITUATED BACK HERE.

LOU DEMASI: THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A TERRORIST THAT COMES OFF THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND A POOL HERE WITH SCREENING AND A RETAINING WALL THAT'S HERE AND IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY TO KIND OF HELP TO LEVEL OUT THE PARK PROPERTY ITSELF.

LOU DEMASI: WE DO HAVE A SEPARATE APPLICATION.

LOU DEMASI: FOR THE POOL AND FENCING WITH THE RETAINING WALL.

JIM CORNACCHIA: CAN I SEE THE WHOLE SITE PLAN, PLEASE.

LOU DEMASI: ZOOM THIS OUT YOU'RE SAYING.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YEAH YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SO THE POOL IS THE NEXT APPLICATION, SO WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THOSE TOGETHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM YEAH SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO THE POOL IT'S ON OUR AGENDA AS A SEPARATE APPLICATION, BUT IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DIVORCE, THE TWO SINCE IT'S ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY THEY TOUCH EACH OTHER, ETC, AND SO FORTH, SO UM BUT FOR THE HOUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS LOT BIG LOT SMALL HOUSE ON THIS LOT I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: A COUPLE QUESTIONS, ONE IS WHAT'S THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THIS HOUSE AND ANY VARIANCES REQUIRED FOR SETBACK OR F AR OR HIGH.

LOU DEMASI: NOPE NO VARIANCE IS REQUIRED IT'S WITHIN THE FLIR AND HERE'S MY TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WERE ALLOWED TO BE.

LOU DEMASI: INCLUDING THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE ROOF IS NO.

LOU DEMASI: DONE IN SUCH A WAY, WHERE I DON'T COUNT THE THE ATTIC PART OF IT, BECAUSE OF RAISING UP THE CEILING, CREATING LIKE VAULTED CEILINGS AND ALSO KEEPING THE ROOF PITCH FAIRLY LOW STILL KEEPING THE AESTHETIC LOOK BUT.

LOU DEMASI: MAKING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT I DON'T NEED TO COUNT THE FDR IN THE ATTIC, SO THERE IS NO VARIANCES REQUIRED FOR FDR HEIGHT SETBACK OR ANYTHING ELSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH AND THEN AND THE ROOF PITCHES IS WHAT THE MAIN THE MAIN ROOF PITCH.

LOU DEMASI: THE FRONT, THE BACK ROOM PITCHES IS SHOWN HERE IT'S LEAVE IT TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SEVEN 712 712.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SEVEN ON 12 SO A LITTLE BIT LOWER, AND THEN THE MAIN GABLES OR 12 ON WELL.

LOU DEMASI: NO THEY'RE ACTUALLY 11 TO KEEP IT IN PROPORTION WITH THE SEVEN ON 12 SO NO YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

LOU DEMASI: A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN USUAL SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT UM AND AND DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND WILL THIS BE BY FAR THE BIGGEST HOUSE ON THE STREET BY A LONG SHOT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BECAUSE I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE STREET IT'S VERY CUTE AND A LOT OF SMALL COTTAGE EG HOUSES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND IT WILL THIS BE THE BY FAR THE BIGGEST HOUSE ON THE STREET.

LOU DEMASI: YEAH I DIDN'T REALLY RESEARCH THAT I'M ALWAYS ASKED TO YOU KNOW GET TO THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE SO.

LOU DEMASI: YEAH, THIS IS THE HOUSE HERE CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN OF THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOOGLE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GLASS.

LOU DEMASI: STOP SHARING AND THEN SHARE AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S JUST EASIER TO DO IT THAT WAY, SO JUST GIVE ME A SECOND.

LOU DEMASI: LET ME KNOW IF THAT CAME UP NOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE SEE THE SITE PLAN YEP OR THAT AERIAL PHOTO.

LOU DEMASI: SHOULD BE AN AERIAL PHOTO CORRECT, SO THIS IS OUR HOUSE HERE, I SEE THIS HOUSE, IT LOOKS FAIRLY BIG AND THEN ALSO BE USED TO THE THIS ONE HOUSE OR THIS HOUSE HERE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER BUT THIS ONE IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME SIZE IS YOU KNOW ONE, TWO AND THREE IN THIS AREA YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH ME OVER 5000 SQUARE FEET, I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT'S.

LOU DEMASI: SHE GOT TO REMEMBER THE 5000 SQUARE FEET AND HE'S ALSO PUTTING TWO CAR GARAGE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S NOT OKAY.

LOU DEMASI: TO LIVING SQUARE FOOTAGE ITSELF IS 400 SQUARE FEET SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ON THE HOUSE AND WE'LL GET WE'LL GET TO THE POOL IN A SECOND.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND CAN SEE THAT EVERYTHING WAS MAXED OUT FOR THIS FOR THIS HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY WHICH SEEMS TO BE A.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PATTERN IS IN RYE, AS IS POOLS, CAN WE GO TO THE POOL, THEN, IF NO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: CONCUR IT.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: IN 437.

JIM CORNACCHIA: MICHAEL IT JUST IT JUST SEEMS. JIM CORNACCHIA: LARGE.

LOU DEMASI: IT'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PROBABLY TWICE THE SIZE, AS MOST THOUSANDS ON THE STREET, IF I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: JUST EYEBALLING UM BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY, I THINK, SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO MAKE A COMMENT OR MAYBE NEEDS TO GO ON MUTE I'M NOT SURE SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO MAKE ELSE MAKE A COMMENT WHAT.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: ISN'T THERE A HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW THAT'S PRETTY BIG AS WELL, IT BACKS UP TO THE PARK.

LOU DEMASI: YES, SO FINE SHOWING THE PICTURE, THIS IS THE HOUSE.

ACROSS THE STREET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO THAT'S RIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S A KIND OF.

LOU DEMASI: MEAN THIS, THIS IS A FAIRLY BIG HOUSE I DIDN'T LOOK UP THE SIZE BUT JUST LOOKING AT YOU KNOW.

LOU DEMASI: AND THEN CROSS THE STREET, WHICH I KNOW I HAVEN'T LOOKED UP BUT IT'S GOT TO BE AT LEAST 4000 SQUARE FEET.

RIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH GOOD QUESTION, I WILL SAY I ACTUALLY HAVE GOOD FRIENDS THAT LIVE ON THE STREET, AND THIS HOUSE STANDS OUT ON THE STREET I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S UNIQUE ON THAT STREET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND NOT NECESSARILY BUT ANYWAY UM SO CAN WE GO TO THE POOL PLEASE AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT APPLICATION AND JUST KIND OF COMBINE THESE FOR EXPEDIENCY AND COMPLETING THIS.

LOU DEMASI: MR CHAIRMAN, IS MICHAEL ERICKSON ON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH SORRY YEAH WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE POOL APPLICATION FOR TO A TO RYAN, THE JAPANESE HAVE YOU HERE, FOR THAT IS RAISE YOUR HAND AND MAKE YOURSELF THEN WE'LL BRING INTO THE MEETING.

LOU DEMASI: SO THE LEAD ARCHITECT SHOULD BE ON SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I SEE A.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MICHAEL MITCHELL YEAH SO WE COULD ADD MICHAEL MITCHELL TO THE MEETING FOR THE POOL EXCELLENT YEAH.

LOU DEMASI: THAT'D BE GREAT THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MICHAEL YOU YOU'RE ON MUTE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND WE'RE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TALKING ABOUT THE POOL.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: GOOD EVENING EVERYONE I'M MIKE MITCHELL AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH ECKERSON DESIGN ASSOCIATES AND WE'RE, THE ONES WHO DESIGNED THE POOL AND ON THE HARD SCAPE AND FENCING AND PLANTATIONS PROPERTY.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: SO I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

LOU DEMASI: MIGHT WANT ME TO STOP SHARING AND YOU'LL HAVE A SCREEN TO SHARE.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: THAT'D BE GREAT.

LOU DEMASI: THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: ALL RIGHT, CAN EVERYONE SEE THIS A PLAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN THE SITE PLAN GO AHEAD OKAY.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: GREAT SO WHAT'S PROPOSES A 2545 POOL LIKE WE'VE MENTIONED IT'S A JOINING TERRORISTS TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE SO STEPS DOWN FROM THE CUPBOARD PORCH TO.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: PARIS, WE DO HAVE A RETAINING WALL THAT ENCOMPASSES AND GOES AROUND TWO SIDES OF THE PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN GRADE, AS WELL AS.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: A SOLID BOARD FENCES MOUNTED ON TOP OF THAT LAW SO ARE OUR MAXIMUM LAW HEIGHT IS ABOUT 30 INCHES ABOVE MY SCREEN.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: AND WE'RE PROPOSING A SOLID BOARD FENCE, ON TOP OF THAT WALL WHICH IS SIX FEET, WHICH IS WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY THERE'S A SIX FOOT SOLID BORDER FENCE THAT WRAPS THREE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: ONE CHANGE THAT HAS HAPPENED FOR THE CLIENT REQUESTS, SINCE THE TIME THEY SUBMITTED THIS WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: THE GENERATOR IN THE POOL EQUIPMENT TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE GARAGE WE THINK IT'S A BETTER LOCATION AND WE'VE GOT THE ROOM TO DO THE AC UNITS, AS WELL AS WELL, EQUIPMENT AND THE GENERATOR IN THE BACK SIDE SO IT'S SO MUCH BETTER LOCATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: JUST IN TERMS OF KIND OF ABOVE GRADE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FEATURES, YOU KNOW ANYTHING THAT'S KIND OF YOU KNOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT THE SURFACE OF THE THE PATIO OR THE POOL IF YOU JUST POINT THOSE OUT FOR.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: SURE HERE'S THE PORTS, THE SECTION CUTTING THROUGH THE POOL SO POOL TERRORISTS ON BOTH SIDES, AND SO, THEN WE SLIPPED DOWN AND WE'VE GOT.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: A ROAD 10 OR 12 FOOT OR OR EVERYBODY BEHIND IN BOARD OF THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH IS THIS DASHED LINE RIGHT HERE SO WE'RE RETAINING ABOUT 30 INCHES GREAT MAXIMUM, AND SO THE PROPERTY IS AND THEN LIKE I SAID WE'VE GOT A SIX FOOT SALAD BOARD CAN SEARCH IT ON TOP OF THE WALL.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM OKAY ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE POOL I'M SORRY MICHAEL WAS THAT WE SEE EVERYTHING.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: YEP THAT'S A.

GREAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: QUESTION FROM THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NON I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: JUST GOING TO GO TO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC REGARDING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THIS PROJECT AT 282 RIGHT BEACH AVENUE, THE HOUSE OR THE POOL, WHICH ARE THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TWO AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE COMBINED FOR FOR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SCOTT.

CRAIG HORTON: HEY GOOD EVENING MICHAEL THIS IS CRAIG HORTON THE PROPERTY OWNER WE'RE THRILLED TO BE MOVING TO RYAN AND BUILDING A FAMILY THERE.

CRAIG HORTON: ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT.

CRAIG HORTON: AS WE WERE SORT OF DEBATING SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR HOUSES, THE HOME DIRECTLY.

CRAIG HORTON: ACROSS FROM OUR HOUSE, I THINK, WAS THE FIRST PHOTO LOU SHOWED LITERALLY FACING SORT OF FRONT DOOR TO FRONT DOOR IT'S 5452 SQUARE FEET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANY OTHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM PUBLIC.

PN: YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OR FROM THE OWNER YEAH GO AHEAD.

PN: HI, THIS IS THE NATHAN'S WERE.

PN: BEHIND AND WE'RE OVER ON THE HILLSIDE PLACE WHERE I'M BACKING BEHIND OR.

PN: THE JOINING BUT WE'RE MAYBE LEAST IMPACTED.

PN: A COUPLE OF ISSUES, ONE I THINK YOU POINTED OUT IT'S HUGE.

PN: IT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST THING ON THE STREET AND IT'S GOING TO WIN YOUR WALLET AGAINST THE HOUSE IT'S NEXT TO ON EITHER SIDE, YOU REALLY YOU'RE JUST CREATING A CANYON FEEL TO RIDE EACH AVENUE.

PN: THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, THE NEW HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, BECAUSE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AROUND IT, I IT MAY BE.

PN: CLOSE TO 5000 SQUARE FEET, BUT IT DOESN'T.

PN: YOU KNOW IT'S ALL RELATIVE.

PN: HOW IT LOOKS ON THE PROPERTY, THIS IS FILLING UP JUST CREATING A WALL ALONG THE FRONT OF RYE BE CHATTY.

PN: THE SECOND COMMENT IS, WE DID NOT SEE IN THE PLANS THAT WERE POSTED.

PN: THE AERIAL PLAN SHOWING WHERE EVERYTHING LOOKS SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO EVALUATE WE JUST SEE THE WALL OF.

PN: YOU KNOW WALL WINDOW PEAKS AND HONESTLY, YOU KNOW IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE OWNERS AND THE ARCHITECT.

PN: THAT'S WHAT WE SEE WE CAN'T EVEN EVALUATE IT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE THAT PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL.

PN: TO SEE AND GO OUTSIDE AND BE ABLE TO SAY OH IT STARTS AND ENDS HERE AND THERE, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT FROM WHAT WE SAW IN ADVANCE, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE CREATING A WALL IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE TOWNHOUSES THE ONE RIGHT THE CHAT WITH YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SORRY THE SO JUST TO CLARIFY WHEN YOU REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS I GUESS ONLINE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH THE SITE PLAN WAS NOT WAS NOT PRESENT.

PN: CORRECT I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, AND NOW WE DID NOT HAVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THOUGH.

PN: I CAN'T TELL WHERE THINGS END, AND YOU KNOW AGAIN.

PN: WE WELCOME THESE OWNERS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO COME AND ENJOY THE PLACE IT'S A FANTASTIC PLACE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO.

PN: HANGING OUT WITH THEM, AND ALL OF THAT AND, BUT I JUST CAN'T HONESTLY SEE WHERE THINGS START THEN RELATIVE TO WHAT'S THERE SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO EVALUATE.

PN: UNDERSTOOD AND AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S DOUBLING WHAT'S THERE IN TERMS OF SIZE, BUT WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA BLOCK SUNLIGHT VIEWS AND I'M SURE, A LOT OF TREES ARE GOING TO COME DOWN, SO I JUST WORRIED THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA.

YOU KNOW YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UNDERSTOOD.

PN: SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YES CERTAIN CERTAINLY NOT HAVING SITE PLAN, I CAN SEE, NOT HAVING ACCESS TO THAT OR BEING ABLE TO OR SEEING THAT HARD TO EVALUATE THE THE THE YOU KNOW THE THE PROJECT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND CAN APPRECIATE THAT UM I THINK I MEAN I I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE STREET AGAIN BUT I'M SORRY WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE MORE PERSON WITH THEIR HAND UP, I SEE A NAME JADE CUNNINGHAM, IF THAT IF THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON MY SCREEN IF THEY CAN BE ADDED TO THE MEETING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY, I DIDN'T WANT TO I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT OFF THE PRIOR COMMENT OR DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

PN: NO, I MEAN THAT'S THE.

PN: YOU KNOW IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A HUGE HOUSE ON A SMALL SCREEN THAT HAS LOTS OF COTTAGES IT'S.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO.

PN: I THINK YOU MADE THE POINT EARLIER WITH REGARD TO ANOTHER HOUSE ELSEWHERE IN TOWN, BUT IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S THE SAME IT'S THE SAME THING AGAIN.

PN: WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE SITE PLAN AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND THEN COMMENT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE FAIR, I MEAN YOU KNOW THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD A HOUSE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: IS IT UNREASONABLE MICHAEL TO REQUEST THAT THEY STAY, IS IT POSSIBLE TO STAKE OUT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WHERE THE WHERE THE FENCE IS GOING TO GO AND WHERE THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE PLACED OR IT HAS THAT BEEN DONE, I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH JIM JIM GREAT COMMENT I GUESS SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME CONFUSION OR SOME POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO CLARIFY BETWEEN THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE THE OWNERS OR THE ARCHITECT OF THIS OF THIS SITE AND THE NEIGHBORS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO ADDRESS THEIR QUESTIONS LIKE LOOK, I MEAN ULTIMATELY THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME IS NEIGHBORS TALK TO EACH OTHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THEY YOU KNOW AIR THEIR QUESTIONS AND ISSUES AND WORK IT OUT, BECAUSE NONE OF THEM, NONE OF THEM, NONE OF THE VAR MEMBERS LIVE ON THE STREET OR LIVE A JASON TO THIS PROPERTY SO BEST CASE SCENARIO NEIGHBORS THE NEIGHBORS AND CAN WORK IT OUT THEMSELVES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE'S AN OPERA THERE'S A THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR NEIGHBORS TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, ALSO THE FACT THAT THE SITE PLAN WAS NOT AVAILABLE SEEN IT IS A GLARING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ERROR OR.

LOU DEMASI: GAP NOT WAS ABLE TO.

LOU DEMASI: MICHAEL NOT INTERRUPT WITH THE SITE PLAN WAS A SEPARATE APPLICATION WITH THE POOL IN A LANDSCAPING PLAN SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I JUST WELL, I MEAN FAIR ENOUGH, BUT UNUSUAL THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A SITE PLAN WITH THE HOUSE MAN WE'VE REVIEWED TONS OF HOUSES AND THEY ALWAYS THEY ALL THEY ALL HAVE SAY PLANS OUT THERE.

LOU DEMASI: YEAH ABSOLUTELY.

LOU DEMASI: THAT'S WHAT WE DID THE SITE PLAN.

LOU DEMASI: LANSKY AND MAN WAS PROVIDED, SO IT.

LOU DEMASI: NOT TO BE REDUNDANT AND HAVE IT TWICE, WE HAD A SEPARATE APPLICATION, BECAUSE WE KNEW WE.

LOU DEMASI: WERE LAUGHING SO IT WAS NOTICED, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW AS PART OF THE AGENDA.

LOU DEMASI: THE OTHER GUY THIS IS IT'S A CODE COMPLIANT HOUSE WE MEET THE SETBACKS, WE MEET THE HYATT AND WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FDR.

LOU DEMASI: OH YEAH.

LOU DEMASI: IF IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE FDR THEN WAS NEED TO BE CHANGED TO MAKE THE HOUSES SMALLER.

LOU DEMASI: BUT YEAH MOST COMPLIANT I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO KNOW HAVE THIS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE LOOKED AT, I MEAN LOOK IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE A CODE COMPLIANCE WHY EVEN HAD A WHY EVEN HAVE A BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AT ALL I.

LOU DEMASI: MEAN LISTEN GREENWICH CONNECTICUT.

LOU DEMASI: DOESN'T WORK.

LOU DEMASI: PERFECTLY FINE THERE SO.

JIM CORNACCHIA: BUT WE'RE NOT.

LOU DEMASI: I AGREE.

LOU DEMASI: THAT'S WHY WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES WITH THE FIGHT WITH THE HEIGHT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: YEAH JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD OKAY THAT'S.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THE BOTTOM HERE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: AT THE BOTTOM LINE HERE.

LOU DEMASI: OKAY, WHAT ARE THE WHERE THE BOARD TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: US THE ELEVATION SO SO SO HERE'S HERE'S MY COMMENTS, A FEW FEW COMMENTS, ONE IS I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT AND OR HIS OR HER ARCHITECT TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS REGARDING THIS PROJECT, AND I THINK, AND I THINK FOR THE FOR THE BOARDS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FOR THE BOARDS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: INFORMATION, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL REVISIT THIS SITE AGAIN AND LOOK AT THE CONTEXT WITH WITH WITH WHICH IT IS BEING BUILT THE LOCATION IS BEING BUILT AND THE SURROUNDING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW SURROUNDING AREAS WHICH, WHICH WILL BE PLACED AND WE WILL REVISIT THIS HOUSE AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND HOPEFULLY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND ARCHITECTS AND NEIGHBORS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO MY RECOMMENDATION, AS WE CONTINUE THIS TO THE NIGHT'S MEETING TO ALLOW FOR THOSE THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN AND AND WE ALL COME BETTER EQUIPPED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS THIS THIS APPLICATION, BUT ANYBODY OBJECT FROM THE BOARD ON THAT PLAN.

FRANK GADALETA: NO IDEA IT'S A GOOD IDEA, MICHAEL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

CRAIG HORTON: HEY MICHAEL WHY WE'RE HERE, I KNOW THERE WERE TWO OTHER NEIGHBORS HERE.

CRAIG HORTON: I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO SECURE THEIR INPUT AS WELL, SO THAT WAY WHEN WE COME BACK THAT'S ALL GOOD INFORMATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SORRY I MISSED THAT YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO I THINK I HAVE A JADE CUNNINGHAM ON THE LIST HERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APOLOGIES FOR MISSING THAT IT'S GETTING LATE SO HOPEFULLY GETTING A JADE YOU'RE YOU'RE OFF MUTE BUT WE'RE NOT HEARING ANYTHING IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE SPEAKING.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU'RE ON MUTE BUT GO AHEAD.

ALISON RELYEA: SURE UM I ACTUALLY I LIVE ON HALSTED PLACE JUST UP FROM THIS HOUSE, AND THEN I WORK AT THE NAP HOUSE AND I'M ACTUALLY I'M.

ALISON RELYEA: JUST LEARNING ABOUT THESE PLANS, BUT I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE GIVEN FLOODING ON MILTON ROAD AND DRAINAGE ISSUES, THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET DOES HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AROUND IT AND THERE AREN'T.

ALISON RELYEA: IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE GROUNDWATER AND YOU KNOW GROUNDWATER DISPLACEMENT OR HEAVY RAINFALL, BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF IMPERMEABLE.

ALISON RELYEA: SURFACE AND I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED.

ALISON RELYEA: ABOUT NOT JUST THE NAP HOUSE WHICH LIES REALLY LOW, BUT ALL THOSE HOUSES LONG MILTON ROAD I'M SURE YOU KNOW, I KNOW I CAN TELL FROM THE DISCUSSION IT'S WITHIN CODE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS SURPRISINGLY DEVELOPED ON THAT LOT.

ALISON RELYEA: LIES ABOVE SOME OTHER HOUSES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANKS OUT.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: SO MITCHELL, CAN I GET TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION OR COMMENT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ACTUALLY I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE PURVIEW OF THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, BUT IT I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMMENT TO NOTE FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT ARE ON THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE ENGINEERS DO TAKE A LOOK AT DRAINAGE, BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE COVER IN THE CAR, BUT IT CERTAINLY WILL BE COVERED IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENTS ENGINEERING REVIEW AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANT TO SAY ON THAT, SO YOU KNOW COMMENT, NOTING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FOR OTHERS, TO FOCUS ON IF THAT'S OKAY.

ALISON RELYEA: AND FORTH YEAH THAT'S ALL I JUST NOTICED IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANK YOU SO ARE WE YEAH SO ANYTHING ELSE ALLISON OH, I THINK WE HAD ONE MORE PERSON THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, GREAT SO I'M ON MY SCREEN, IT SAYS JADE COMING JADE CUNNINGHAM ONE WORD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU'RE ON MUTE NOW I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO SPEAK EARLIER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE SO UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM OH THERE WE GO OFF MUTE JADE CUNNINGHAM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GO AHEAD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SORRY STILL NOT HEARING ANYTHING, IS IT JUST ME OR ME NOW I.

NANCY PATOTA: CAN HEAR.

NANCY PATOTA: NO CAN HEAR AND NOW SHE CAN STEER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS SORRY FOR THE FOR THE NEIGHBOR WHO'S UNABLE TO SPEAK, PROBABLY HAVING SOME TYPE OF ISSUES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT TO THE NEXT MEETING SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: UM EXCUSE ME YET HI I AM GAIL WADDINGTON.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: I'M ON HILLSIDE PLACE OR SO I'M DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: AND JUST IN LINE WITH WHAT JOSH WAS SAYING WE JUST HAD THE FEELING THAT THIS MAY BE A LITTLE OVERPOWERING JUST FOR FOR THE AREA AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: SOMEBODY WAS MENTIONING TO PUT SOME STEAKS OR TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH FORWARD THE HAS WILL COME JUST BECAUSE.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: AS IT IS, FOR US, WHERE WE ARE, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BLOCK A LOT OF THE LIGHT A LOT OF THE VIEW FOR A DECK WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A WINDOW THAT'S FACING DIRECTLY INTO US.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: SO WE WOULD NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE A LITTLE BETTER, REALLY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YEAH GAIL APPRECIATE IT SO APPRECIATE THE COMMENT APOLOGIES FOR NOT SEEING YOUR HAND UP THERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AFTER 10 O'CLOCK YOU KNOW.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: KNOW, FOR YOUR TIME AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE NEW NEIGHBORS WE JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND BETTER AND WE WANT TO BE WELCOMING IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UNDERSTAND BETTER.

GAELLE WADDINGTON: HE SOUNDS WILL BE YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ABSOLUTELY SO YEAH SO AGAIN, I THINK ANOTHER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FEATHER IN THE CAP OF LET'S LET'S LET'S TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS I'LL JUST SHARE BEST PRACTICE IS YOU KNOW INVOLVE YOUR NEIGHBORS IN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: EARLY AND OFTEN IF YOU CAN LEADS TO BETTER OUTCOMES, BY THE TIME IT GETS HERE I HATE TO BE THE PERSON THAT HAS TO ASK NEIGHBORS TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT SEEMS TO BE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, THESE DAYS IS SO AGAIN, PLEASE SPEND THE TWO WEEKS BEFORE YOU COME BACK TO THE CAR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE VAR WILL SPEND TIME IN IN AND AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN AND RE FAMILIARIZE OURSELVES WITH THE LOCATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO FOR.

[03:35:09]

MICHAEL BEFORE.

LOU DEMASI: THE NEIGHBORS COULD REACH OUT TO ME BY EMAIL I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY OTHER CONCERNS AND POSSIBLY MEET AT THE SITE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I THINK UM YEAH THAT THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT IDEA I MEAN WE CAN ALSO COLLECT, I THINK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENTS HAPPY TO COLLECT EMAILS AND SEND THEM YOUR WAY.

LOU DEMASI: BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OTHER WAY TO DO IT, THE SIZE KNOCK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH GOOD EMAIL, AND OBVIOUSLY PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW.

LOU DEMASI: SOCIAL DISTRIBUTION IN THE WHOLE THING, BUT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS I MEAN I KNOW WHAT THE REAL MEETINGS IT'S BEST TO YOU KNOW TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS OUTSIDE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT HERE.

LOU DEMASI: I WAS ALWAYS ABLE TO RESOLVE ISSUES LIKE THAT, BUT SOMETHING LIKE ZOOM IS REALLY DIFFICULT THAT'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALL YEAH SO FOR NEIGHBORS IF YOU CAN SEND YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION TO BUILDING AT RY AND Y.GOV, WHICH IS THE WHICH IS LISTED AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA AND JUST PLEASE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE YOU KNOW THE THE REFERENCE PROPERTY AND WE'LL GET THOSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION OVER TO THE APPLICANT AND THE ARCHITECT FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS.

LOU DEMASI: AND THEN, IN THE MEANWHILE WE'LL TALK TO THE OWNER AND SEE IF WE COULD STAKE OUT OR PUT LEAST THE RIBBON WE'RE WE'RE WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GREAT ALRIGHT THANKS MUCH.

LOU DEMASI: THANK YOU.

MICHAEL MITCHELL: THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M MOVING ON 25 HOLSTERED PLACE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SECOND, TO LAST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FOR SETTING ALL KINDS OF RECORDS ON ON THIS MEETING SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY 25 HOMESTEAD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE HAVE SOMEBODY OVER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IS A COW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU'RE ON MUTE.

CAL PETRESCU: YOU GO, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, SIR.

CAL PETRESCU: AND, CAN YOU PLEASE SEE ME.

NANCY PATOTA: NOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT YEAH BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE IF YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN THEN MAYBE WE CAN SEE THE DRAWINGS FOR 25 PASTA OKAY.

CAL PETRESCU: HERE WE GO.

CAL PETRESCU: CAN WE SEE THE SITE PLAN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, WE CAN.

OKAY.

CAL PETRESCU: GOOD EVENING I'M SORRY THE VIDEO DIDN'T WORK OUT.

CAL PETRESCU: I'M COW PINTEREST SCORE I'M AN ARCHITECT, YOU CAN SEE MORE OF MY WORK AT THE RESTAURANTS OR ARCHITECT THAT COME, I AM HERE TONIGHT, ON BEHALF OF GEORGE IN ZURICH ANASTASIA TO PRESENT THIS NEW HOUSE AT 25 WHOLESALE PLACE AND THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR.

CAL PETRESCU: LISTENING.

CAL PETRESCU: THIS IS A SITE PLAN, WE KNOW.

CAL PETRESCU: WHERE THE BLACK IS LOCATED RIGHT.

CAL PETRESCU: THE SITE HAS PARK AND BADE VIEWERS AND IT'S TOPOGRAPHY ACTUALLY DETERMINED THE SANCTUM OF THE HOUSE, THE LAYOUT AND THE ORIENTATION WITHIN A ZONING ARE FIVE WITH 4400 SQUARE FEET WITHOUT COUNTING THE BASEMENT WHICH IS UNDERGROUND AS YOU'LL SEE AND.

CAL PETRESCU: THE ADVOCATES OUT THERE, SEVEN FEET WILL ACHIEVE AND WE STAYED ONE AND A HALF FEET UNDER THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OR DON'T WE ARE SOMEHOW TOWARDS THE TOP OF THIS HILL IS SITE.

CAL PETRESCU: THIS IS THE SITE WE'RE LOCATED BETWEEN.

CAL PETRESCU: SHINGLE HOUSE AND THE HOUSE WHICH YOU.

CAL PETRESCU: PROBABLY KNOW.

CAL PETRESCU: AS THE ENTITY TO THE SITE AND THERE ARE A FEW VIEWERS, THERE WILL BE MORE VIEWERS, THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING.

CAL PETRESCU: UP TOWARDS THE SHINGLE HOUSE TO THE LEFT, THIS BEING THE EXISTING HOUSE TO BE DEMOLISHED YOU SEE IT HERE IS VERY SMALL, AND THEN I WILL SHOW YOU IS REALLY GROW TO THE NEXT PROPERTY AND THE BACKYARD HAS VIEWS TWO.

CAL PETRESCU: THREE OR TWO A YEAR LOTS OF HOUSES THAT FACE FOR A STAB AT YOU AND YOU'VE SEEN THE BAIT.

CAL PETRESCU: BACK THERE AGAIN, THIS IS THE SITE, AND WE ARE LOCATED BETWEEN NUMBER 23 A LARGER HOME AND NUMBER 35 OR SIMILAR SIZE HOME AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IT, AND THIS IS THE HOUSE TO COME DOWN IT'S LOCATED WAY TO BACK I'VE DONE A COUPLE OF.

[03:40:21]

CAL PETRESCU: THIS IS THE FIRST STRIKE BEFORE AND AFTER THE PLAN IS STARTING AROUND BUT I'M SURE I'M SURE WE CAN ORIENT OURSELVES SO FOR ESTABLISHING IS AT THE BOTTOM, THIS IS ALL SAID, THIS IS THE EXISTING HOUSE TO COME DOWN.

CAL PETRESCU: AS I MENTIONED IT'S NON CONFORMING IN MANY WAYS IT'S SOME OLD.

CAL PETRESCU: COTTAGES STYLE IS.

CAL PETRESCU: GEORGE AND ZACH HAVE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AND WE REPLACE THESE HOUSES OF NEW STRUCTURE, WE WERE VERY CAREFUL IN A PROCESS TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: EXPECT.

CAL PETRESCU: AND COMPARE WELL TO LOTS LOTS AROUND, ESPECIALLY THE ROTATION OF THE HOUSES ON YOUR SLIDES AND SIZES, SO WHAT I THINK I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT.

CAL PETRESCU: HOW THE HOUSE IS NOW LOCATED IS THE BEFORE YELLOW.

CAL PETRESCU: WE ARE 32 HEAT.

CAL PETRESCU: FROM.

CAL PETRESCU: NUMBER 35 LAT LAST PROBABLY A MINIMUM HE SURVEYED ABOUT 40 FEET IN THERE, WHICH IS QUITE A DISTANCE AND WE'RE USING THE EXISTING.

CAL PETRESCU: DRIVEWAY ACTUALLY TO COME UNDER THE HOUSE INTO THE GARAGE TO SEE THE HOUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF ON THIS HILL ABOUT A SEVEN EIGHT FOR DIFFERENCE.

CAL PETRESCU: DOING IS ALREADY IT LATER REALLY HIGH AS A GRADUATE FROM THE FRONT VIEW FROM THE OTHER SIDE, ALTHOUGH WE ARE KIND OF THE LIMIT OF THE SETBACK WE'RE BENEFITING FROM SOME ADDITIONAL LAND BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES, SO WE WILL AGAIN BE IN 28 PLUS EIGHT IS ABOUT 8586.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO WE'RE.

CAL PETRESCU: PLACE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE FRONT WAY WE LINED UP WITH THE TWO HOUSES, SO OUR SETBACKS ABOUT REGULATION.

CAL PETRESCU: ABOUT FIVE FEET IN FRONT DRYING UP.

CAL PETRESCU: YEAH WE EXPLAIN LIES IN THE BACK, WE ARE 30 TEETH.

CAL PETRESCU: REGULATION OR WHAT WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A WHILE, IS THAT.

CAL PETRESCU: WHOLE STATE HAS LOTS OF ALMOST DOUBLED IN SIZE ON THE SIDE OF IT, SO THEY GENERATE A LARGER FOOTPRINT HOMES AND LARGER HOMES.

CAL PETRESCU: WITH ABOUT 4500 SQUARE FEET AND WE ARE.

CAL PETRESCU: 28% SMALLER THAN A HOUSE TO THE LEFT, WHICH IS 5800 SQUARE FEET EVEN NUMBER 36 ACROSS ALL BOYS GOT OUR LOWER PROFILE, AS YOU WILL SEE, IS.

CAL PETRESCU: WHY DO I HAVE BEEN HERE.

CAL PETRESCU: 4588 SO WE'RE VERY MUCH.

CAL PETRESCU: YOU KNOW SAME DAY YEAH AND NUMBER 67 IT'S OVER 6000 SQUARE FEET ON THE SAME BLOCK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, GREAT.

CAL PETRESCU: IF I MAY CONTINUE.

CAL PETRESCU: THEM.

CAL PETRESCU: ADDISON BEFORE AND AFTER JUST TO SEE HOW WE'RE LOCATED ON A BLACK AND I'LL TALK ABOUT A HOUSE IN A MINUTE OH, THIS IS THE LOT.

CAL PETRESCU: WITH A HOUSE IN A BACK TO COME DOWN WERE LINING UP AND BECAUSE OF ZONING BECAUSE WE CANNOT BE THE SAME HEIGHT.

CAL PETRESCU: AS THE NEXT HOUSE, WE HAVE A LITTLE DROP WITH A MINOR MINOR LITTLE GARDEN OR BY THE FOOT, SO I CAN BUILD.

CAL PETRESCU: THIS FIRST FLOOR ABOVE THE GAP WE DON'T WANT TO WORK TO COME INTO THE HOUSE SO WE'RE CHEATING ACTUALLY A SMALLER HEIGHT IN A STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT AND IN TERMS OF LENGTH, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU'RE NOT SEEING.

CAL PETRESCU: THE STORY OUR HOUSE IN HERE, AND WE KNOW HOW BEAUTIFUL, IT IS IN YOUR BACK IF YOU'RE APPRECIATE MODERN ARCHITECTURE RIGHT, THIS WAS SCREEN AND THEN IT'S GOT A LITTLE WINGS, SO WHAT THIS IS ABOUT 45 FEET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHEN IT GOT.

CAL PETRESCU: SIX, AND THIS IS IT FORWARD SEVEN.

CAL PETRESCU: OKAY.

OKAY YEAH.

CAL PETRESCU: YOU'RE SEEING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH YEAH SO YEAH I I SORRY I HATE TO INTERRUPT I JUST I WANT TO SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID, TO TAKE THE NEIGHBORING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: STREET AND NEIGHBORING HOUSES AND ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU DESIGNED IT, I THINK WE WE AT LEAST I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK ON THIS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY REVISIT THIS IF WE NEED TO, BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING TO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE PROPOSED HOUSE.

[03:45:07]

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: INCORPORATION AND AND STUDY YOU DID THE EXISTING AREA, SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT AT ALL, BUT GIVEN THE LATE HOUR I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE PROPOSAL, PLEASE OKAY, WE CAN GET.

CAL PETRESCU: YOUR YOUR NEXT, THIS IS THE HOUSE.

CAL PETRESCU: WE ARE JUST OR DESCRIBE THE ARCHITECTURE, FOLLOWING THE SLOPE IN IN FRONT, AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS PORTION OF HALSTON IS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DITCH EVERYBODY HAS TO CLIMB.

CAL PETRESCU: QUITE A FLORIDA LIKE THIS HOUSE IS ACROSS THE STREET I'M COUNTING 12 TO 15 STEPS IN THERE ON OUR SIDE TO REALLY HAVE ABOUT 11 OR 12 WE'RE FOLLOWING THE.

CAL PETRESCU: SLOPE WITHOUT ANY DISTURBANCE, EXCEPT FOR THE ACCESS THERE AND A COUPLE OF LITTLE GARDEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR AMERICA.

CAL PETRESCU: AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, AGAIN WE HAVE HIDING, AS I SAID, THE GARAGE IS.

CAL PETRESCU: WHAT IT GOING UP ON TO THE BANK DRIVE THEM AND WE NEED TO LEVEL A LITTLE BIT IS A PORTION FOR MORE SAFETY FOR THE CHILDREN, SO THEY ARE ABOUT I DON'T KNOW I WANT TO SAY A FIFTH MAYBE A SIXTH OF THE LIGHT IN THE SAY I DON'T HAVE TO BE LAMONT.

CAL PETRESCU: VS HAVE A SAFE APPROACH, BUT WHAT I REALLY OBSESSED ABOUT TO BE HONEST, IS AN ARCHETYPE IS TRYING TO GIVE THIS HOUSE LOWER IN PROFILE AND I EXPLAINED HOW EXAM THAT FROM THE FRONT, THE ROOFS ARE LESS THAN ONE FOR SLOPE.

CAL PETRESCU: THE HEIGHT AGAIN THE AVERAGE HEIGHT I DON'T WANT TO BOTHER ANYBODY WAS DESIGNING, BUT THERE IS A FORMULA AND BECAUSE YOU'RE ON A SLOPE, YOU CANNOT BE AS HIGH ABOVE THE GROUND IS YOUR WANT TO.

CAL PETRESCU: THAT WAS CHALLENGING BUT I THINK WE RESOLVE IT, THE TWO NT WAYS WERE FEATURE.

CAL PETRESCU: INTERESTING FOR BOTH THE ENTIRE LOOK OF THE HOUSE IF I DIDN'T SAY.

CAL PETRESCU: WANTS TO BE INSPIRED BY FRENCH COUNTRY HOME, MAYBE A LITTLE MANAGE AND TO TRANSITION EVEN BETTER ON THE SITE TO THE CONTEMPORARY HOUSE WE HAVE PLENTY OF THIS AND STILL.

CAL PETRESCU: WE HAVE A SETBACK THERE'S IN THE US IS LOWER LAYERING ROOFS AS YOU COME DOWN OVER THIS IDENTITY OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO BE USED A LOT AND OVER THE GARAGE.

CAL PETRESCU: ONCE THEY INTERESTING IF I CAN TALK ABOUT THE SIDE PLANTS AND THAT'S LIKE PLANTS, THE PLANTS, UNLESS YOU LOOKED AT THEM JUST LET ME KNOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH YEAH SORRY IF YOU CAN ORIENT US TO THE YEAH THERE WE GO IF WE CAN JUST KEEP GOING AND GOING GOING AROUND THE HOUSE AND SEE THE ELEVATIONS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALREADY GREAT.

CAL PETRESCU: OKAY, DECIDE THE ELEVATIONS AROUND THE HOUSE OUR INSPIRATION BOARDS WITH BIG HOMES.

CAL PETRESCU: LET ME GO SAY TO THE ELEVATIONS OKAY, THIS IS THE FRONT, THIS IS THE GARAGE SIDE WE'RE GOING UP ON A YEAR ELEVATION WHERE WE HAVE A BALCONY CAREFULLY PLANNED.

CAL PETRESCU: TO SEE THE VIEWS AND YOU KNOW THE PRODUCT OVER THIS PORCH WHERE WE HAVE A OUTDOOR COOKING YEAH YEAH AND.

CAL PETRESCU: AGAIN SYMMETRICALLY TO THE SET BACK ON THE LEFT SIDE, WE HAVE ONE ON THIS SIDE OF THE HOUSE ON THE INSIDE NOW AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, OR THEY'RE ALREADY SET UP ON A CENTRAL HALL KIND OF COLONIAL IF YOU WANT TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SEE IF WE COULD JUST ADD PRE APPRECIATE THAT REALLY COOL SECTION THERE BUT.

CAL PETRESCU: IF WE JUST FOCUS ON THE.

CAL PETRESCU: KEY IS A NICE SURPRISE FOR YOU GUYS.

CAL PETRESCU: DO I NEED TO CONTINUE CANNOT EXPLAIN THE PORCHES AND THE ARCHES THAT PAIN, OR THE ARCHITECTURE ON OUR APP.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT'S GREAT YEAH.

CAL PETRESCU: WTF IS OUR BREAK AGAIN RE INSPIRED BY SOME FRENCH ARCHITECTURE WITH EXACT PROFILES.

CAL PETRESCU: WE HAVE AN ACCENT OF STOCK IN A FRONT FOR THE FRONT BAY AND WE'RE USING A COMPOSITE SLATE ON A PRETTY BOLD A NICE CLEAR STONE.

CAL PETRESCU: AND CAL PETRESCU: YOU KNOW, A T TO SEE IT EVEN ALL AROUND I THINK THIS IS GONNA TELL THE STORY EVEN BETTER.

CAL PETRESCU: YOU CAN RIDE AROUND THE PROPERTY.

CAL PETRESCU: AND YOU SEE ALL THE SCREENING TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORS SIR KINDS OF FLOWER BUFF AND SHE CAN TALK ABOUT AN ANSWER IN A SECOND, THAT IS.

[03:50:03]

CAL PETRESCU: PHD IN THERE, OR SO FIRE PIT BUT THAT'S THE GEORGE LIKES TO COOK SO THAT'S THAT IS A YEAH AND YOU GOT TO SEE TOYS YOUR MENTORS THE BAY FROM FROM THIS BALCONY.

CAL PETRESCU: CAREFUL DANCER LOCAL RIGHT YEAH YEAH OKAY.

CAL PETRESCU: I NEED A STROKE IF WE GET TO GET THERE.

CAL PETRESCU: FOR ONE SECOND YOU'RE GONNA GO.

CAL PETRESCU: IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO THREES AND JUST GO FOR THAT HOUSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NO, I THINK LET'S PAUSE IT THERE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH A QUIET, I MEAN, I THINK THAT FLY AROUND WAS GREAT BECAUSE I SAW THREE SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES OR DECKS FACING THREE OF THE FOUR DIRECTIONS SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT AT 1030 WE GET A HOUSE WITH THREE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IN FLORIDA NEXT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S VERY UNIQUE NOT IN A BAD WAY THAT, IN A VERY UNIQUE YOU KNOW, A STYLE SO I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MAN I'M SORRY IT JUST IT'S FOUR HOURS OF MEETING AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO ANY LET'S PUT THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES INDEX ON JUST THE SIDE FOR ONE SECOND ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THE REMAINING ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE, IF YOU COULD JUST PULL UP THE YEAH THERE WE GO PERFECT ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE SITE LOCATION.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ETC.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'LL START.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'LL START IT'S UNIQUE NOT AN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: EYE ON THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S DEFINITELY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WOULD BE ONE OF A KIND FOR THIS AREA, CERTAINLY FOR THIS DAY RUN NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT THE TURN IS YOU KNOW NOT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH I MEAN IT'S A TURRET AND WOULD ANYWAY, I GUESS, WE DON'T WE DON'T TYPICALLY SEE THIS STYLE, BUT NOT A BAD THING, BUT I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ALL ABSORB WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND I THINK THAT STREET IS IS QUITE YOU KNOW IT'S UNIQUE IT'S HAS A LOT OF VARIETY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I MEAN CERTAINLY THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TO YOUR STYLE HOUSE WITH A VERY MODERN EDITION ON THE BACK AND THEN THE MORE TRADITIONAL CAPE COD STYLE HOUSE JASON AND THE COLLEGE STYLE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET YEAH EXACTLY SO THERE'S A LOT OF LOT OF DIFFERENT STYLES THERE.

CAL PETRESCU: IS VEDIC BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SO I I THINK COUPLE ISSUES FOR ME IS THAT IT'S UM I DON'T MIND THE DIFFERENT STYLE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD THERE'S JUST A LOT GOING ON ON THIS HOUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS A LOT OF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ELEMENTS THAT ARE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW HAPPENING KIND OF EVERYWHERE, AND I THINK JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT ON AN HOUR FOR OF THIS MEETING, AND THEN UM I THINK YEAH I MEAN I I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND I.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I GO I'LL HELP YOU OUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALRIGHT.

SO.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I'LL BE HONEST, IT DID NOT IT, YOU KNOW I VISITED A LOT OF THE SITES FOR THIS MEETING, I DID NOT VISIT THIS ONE, BUT GIVEN THE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: NUMBER OF BALCONIES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BALCONIES.

YEAH.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO VISIT THE SITE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: YEAH AND I'M WONDERING WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS ARE THEY AWARE OF THESE BALCONIES.

CAL PETRESCU: YEAH WHAT I BELIEVE ZARQA CAN ANSWER AND I DID NOT KNOW WHAT PRECISELY, AS I SAID, THE CONCERNS AFTER THE BOARD IN TERMS OF BALCONIES SO YEAH WELCOME IN SUMMER, YES, THEY COULD BE DECORATIVE ONLY YEAH AND WHAT IS IT THAT IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE RIGHT IN FRONT ON BACK THEN, SO WE HAVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEP SO RIGHT YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SIR YEAH SO SO THE THE THE BOARD HERE AND RYE IS YOU KNOW WE SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARCHITECTURE AND DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS, THE CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN RAISED TO US AND IN A NUMBER OF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: INSTANCES IS PRIVACY CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORS REGARDING SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES INDEX WHERE FOLKS MAY YOU KNOW SPEND TIME OR ENTERTAIN OR YOU KNOW.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: REGARDING PRIVACY CONCERNS, SO THE QUESTION REGARDING ARE THE NEIGHBORS AWARE AND WHAT ARE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IS ONE THAT IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO GET CONFIRMATION ON BEFORE MAKING ANY SORT OF DECISIONS REGARDING SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES WE'D WANT TO CONFIRM WHAT CONVERSATIONS RAN TO THE NEIGHBORS AND WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ULTIMATE FEELINGS ARE FOR THOSE SECOND FLOOR DECKS AND THEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I HONESTLY HAVE A NUMBER OF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I GUESS, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS, GIVEN THIS UP ON A HILL AND GIVEN ITS INTENDED TO LOOK IT'S INTENDED TO MAXIMIZE VIEWS, BUT THOSE VIEWS INCLUDE LOOKING OVER AND THROUGH A JASON PROPERTY SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS ON THE WATER AND AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHICH WE SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE MAXING VIEWS FOR THE WATER SO YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY LOOKING OVER MULTIPLE HOUSES AND THE REARS OF HOUSES WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE MORE PRIVATE PART SO I'M GOING TO SUGGEST FOR A COUPLE REASONS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ONE IS TO VISIT THE SITE TO IS TO VISIT THE SITE THINKING ABOUT THE VIEWS THAT THOSE BALCONIES MAY HAVE AND AND AND ALSO TO GET AFRICA, YOU KNOW THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: CONFIRMATION THAT ARE REALLY POSITIVE AFFIRMATIONS IF POSSIBLE FROM THE NEIGHBORS REGARDING THEIR AWARENESS OF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OF THIS, OF THE PROJECT AND THE CONVERSATIONS THERE SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND I HATE TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST MAKING THE NEXT AGENDA THAT MUCH LONGER AND ANOTHER FOR OUR MEETING I'M PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO RETIRE FROM THIS PART I MEAN WHAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M SORRY IT'S GETTING LATE.

CAL PETRESCU: I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE FOR ONE SECOND AND THEN YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: CAN IS TO CONTINUE THIS AGAIN I HATE TO CONTINUE IT BECAUSE IT JUST ADDS TO THE WORKLOAD FOR EVERYBODY, NEXT TIME, BUT I JUST THINK THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ANOTHER TWO WEEKS WILL PUT THE BOARD IN A BETTER POSITION AND PROBABLY PUT THE APPLICANT IN A BETTER POSITION TO TO HAVE A YOU KNOW MAY TO COME TO A DECISION HERE.

CAL PETRESCU: CAN YOU GUYS COME TOGETHER AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND MEET THE APPLICANT OR ME OR.

CAL PETRESCU: YOU KNOW.

CAL PETRESCU: I'M NOT THAT BE THROUGH THIS DOOR.

CAL PETRESCU: HAS RUN.

CAL PETRESCU: OVER AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO YEAH I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GUARANTEE IT AND ALSO JUST CONGREGATING PANDEMIC WHATEVER I THINK PEOPLE HAVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COMFORT WITH WITH VISITING AND THAT SORT OF STUFF, SO I THINK I MEAN CERTAINLY THE BOARD WILL COMMIT TO VISITING THE SITE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, AND IF YOU CAN COMMIT TO GETTING MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORS KNOW AND WHAT CONVERSATIONS WE HAD REGARDING THE NEIGHBORS AND ESPECIALLY REGARDING THE OUTDOOR SPACES, AND THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US.

CAL PETRESCU: OKAY, WE DON'T.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: KNOW ANY OF THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND KUDOS ON THE THE RESEARCH, YOU DID ON THE SITE AND I'M SORRY MOVING ON TO OUR LAST AND FINAL MEETING AND APOLOGIES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOUR HOURS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: 330 STUYVESANT AVENUE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THAT, PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE WILL ADD YOU TO THE MEETING, THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND YEAH EXCELLENT WHAT A TANNER WHITE RAISING THEIR IN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SEE AND UH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IS A TANNER THAT'S BEEN ADDED FOR THIS.

TANNER WHITE: YES, IT'S TANNER WHITE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: CONDITIONER YEAH WE CAN HEAR YOU ARCHITECTS.

TANNER WHITE: YES, I AM YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ARE THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PRIOR APPLICANT, IF YOU COULD STOP SHARING, OR WE CAN SOMEHOW OH THERE WE GO HEY TANNER TO.

NEISE: THE PRO APPLICANT MIX INFLUENCE OR IT'S.

NEISE: TOO LATE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OH I'M SO SORRY YES TANNER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APOLOGIES.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PAUSE ONE SECOND TANNER WE GOT TO GO BACKWARDS TO THE PRIOR APPLICATION THERE'S A NEIGHBOR THEY WANT TO MAKE IT COUNT I'M I FORGOT ALL PROCEDURE THERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY GO AHEAD.

NEISE: HI MY NAME IS PATRICK NICE I'M DIRECTLY.

NEISE: OPPOSITE FROM THIS HOUSE, I KNOW IT'S LATE SO WE'LL KEEP IT SHORT BUT OUR CONCERN IS THAT THE STYLE OF THE HOUSE IS NOT VERY COMMON TO RYAN, WE FEEL LIKE IT WILL.

NEISE: LET'S SAY BE DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE ROAD AND, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE STREET.

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NEISE: BALCONY FEELS A LITTLE BIT.

NEISE: DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THE STREET, SO WE, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOOK OF THE HOUSE WILL FEEL THAT IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN IT SHOULD BE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, AND THAT WAS THAT NEIGHBOR COMMENTS FOR 25 HALSTEAD PLACE APOLOGIES FOR MY I'M MISSING THE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NEIGHBOR COMMENTS OR ANY OTHER NEIGHBORS ON 25 HALSTON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY FOR.

MICHELLE CONWAY: I'M TRYING TO SPEAK, CAN YOU HEAR ME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SHOW YES.

MICHELLE CONWAY: GO AHEAD AND SHOW I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND AT 564 FOREST AND I HAD NO IDEA, THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE AND THE BALCONIES OVERLOOKING MY PROPERTY.

MICHELLE CONWAY: SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I CAN YOU HEAR ME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH GO AHEAD.

ERIKA LEE: YEAH I'M SORRY, THIS IS A MIKE AND ERICA LEAH 23 HALL SAID WE WOULD JUST ECHO THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH.

ERIKA LEE: WITH THE ARCHITECT AT ALL, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF WORRIES ABOUT THE OUTPUT SETBACK.

ERIKA LEE: IT CERTAINLY WILL MAKE A MATERIAL DIFFERENCE TO OUR BACKYARD WITH LACK OF SUNLIGHT AND IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT, ON TOP OF US IT FEELS LIKE JUST LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY.

ERIKA LEE: OVERALL, AND THEN YOU KNOW I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A DIVERSE STREET WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTIES AND I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER BRICK HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I WOULD.

ERIKA LEE: RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT THOSE HOUSES PILE FIT IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND.

ERIKA LEE: YOU KNOW, THREE BALCONIES DOWN BUT THERE'S A BALCONY ON THIS ENTIRE STREET ANYWHERE, SO YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY ECHO THE WORRIES ABOUT PRIVACY, THE BALCONY WITH ATHLETES DIRECTLY OVERLOOKS OUR PATIO.

ERIKA LEE: AND OUR BATH RIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: MICHAEL EXCUSE ME IF I MAY, IF ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE ANY CONCERNS PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO THE BUILDING EMAIL WITH YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR LETTERS AND IF YOU'D LIKE US TO SEND YOU A LINK TO THE APPLICATION, WE CAN SEND THAT.

ERIKA LEE: OKAY WHAT'S THE EMAIL.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: BUILDING X.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: RY AND Y.GOV.

ERIKA LEE: THANK YOU.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: PERFECT THANKS.

MICHELLE CONWAY: THANK YOU YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANKS DON APPRECIATE THAT YEAH YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A GOOD POINT ON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE ABILITY TO MAKE COMMENTS AND WRITE LETTERS AND SUPPORT OF OR OR NOT AND SUPPORTIVE APPLICATIONS OUTSIDE TO BE OUR PROCESS AND WE GET ALL THAT PAPERWORK AND IF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IF PROVIDED BEFORE MEETINGS WE YOU KNOW WE READ IT AND BECOME PREPARED SO THAT IS ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE YOUR VOICE, THOUGH I'M SORRY DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NEIGHBORS REGARDING 25 VOLTS.

JANNINE: YOUR PATREON JANINE MORAN READ 15 HALTED PLACE, I WOULD ECHO.

JANNINE: MIKE AND ERICA LEE'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: COMMENTS.

JANNINE: I THINK THIS THIS HOUSE WHILE WE'RE WELCOMING NEIGHBORS AND WOULD ENJOY HAVING NEW NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE HOUSE IS THIS SIMILAR TO MANY OF THE OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT.

JANNINE: WHILE WE WHILE WE ARE WELCOMING IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO HAVE CONCERN WITH WITH NOT FITTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF, AND BOTH HEIGHT SIZE AND STRUCTURE, WHILE IT COULD BE.

JANNINE: AN AESTHETICS COULD BE LEGALLY CONFORMING TO ZONING I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE VAR TO COME OUT LOOK AT THE STREET, THE TRADITIONAL HISTORIC NATURE OF THAT STREET.

JANNINE: AND WE DON'T THINK YOU'LL FIND FRENCH PROVINCIAL WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE JUST ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL ATTENTION BY THE BOARD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT, THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APPRECIATE THE THE NEIGHBOR COMMENTS AGAIN APOLOGIES FOR SKIPPING AHEAD, YOU PROBABLY WERE WONDERING WHAT WHAT WAS GOING ON THAT'S JUST THAT WAS MY MISTAKE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM FROM NEIGHBORS, WE WILL SEE THIS PROJECT AGAIN IN IN TWO WEEKS AND WE WILL GO OUT AND VISIT WITH WITH YOUR COMMENTS IN MIND SO APPRECIATE THAT THEY HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE NEIGHBOR SIDE ON 25 ALL SAID.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SEEING NONE CONTINUED APOLOGIES AGAIN FOR THE LAPS AND PROCEDURE THEY'RE MOVING ON TO 330 STUYVESANT AVENUE.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OF THE NIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY ABOUT THAT TANNER APOLOGIES TO YOU AS WELL, FOR FOR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE GIRLS THEY HAD.

TANNER WHITE: US HERE AND SEE MY SCREEN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SURE CAN.

TANNER WHITE: WONDERFUL ALRIGHT SO WE'LL TRY TO MAKE IT BRIEF, BUT THIS IS THE APPLICATION FOR A NEW HOUSE ON 330 STUYVESANT AVENUE, THIS IS I'M THE ARCHITECT REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNER.

TANNER WHITE: I ALSO HAVE LEO ON ONBOARD HERE AS WELL, IN THE ZOOM CALL SO I'LL QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE THE ARV SUBMISSION AND THEN OBVIOUSLY OPEN UP FOR COMMENTS, SO THIS IS A NEW HOUSE IS A TWO STORY HOUSE THAT WE'RE PROMOTING TO BUILD ON A BLANK LOT RIGHT NOW.

TANNER WHITE: THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN HERE AND IT'S A TRICKY LOT WHICH I WON'T GET TOO FAR INTO IT, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT YOU KNOW BUILDING SETBACKS, AS WELL AS FAMOUS SETBACKS, TO CREATE THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE RIGHT HERE.

TANNER WHITE: WE ARE ON A STREET THAT IS LARGELY SHINGLE STYLE IN NATURE, SO THIS IS A HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

TANNER WHITE: STUYVESANT AND THAT'S THE AND ALSO WHAT SHOULD BE NOTED, IS THAT THE SCREENING WITH THE LANDSCAPE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES IS IS PRETTY SUFFICIENT.

TANNER WHITE: THE NEXT PHOTO IS OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER ONE OF THE SAME NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

TANNER WHITE: SHOWN HERE AS WELL.

TANNER WHITE: THAT'S THE BACK SO AGAIN SHINGLE STYLE HOUSE AND WE'RE LARGELY TRYING TO RECREATE THAT KIND OF STYLE, THE FIRST PART OF THE APPLICATION IS ALL I WOULD SAY ZONING STUFF SO IT'S ALL FA IR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND TANNER WHITE: FIRST FLOOR SECOND FLOOR.

TANNER WHITE: ATTIC ALL WITHIN THE REGULATIONS, ALL WITHIN THE SETBACKS, ALL WITHIN THE HEIGHT REGULATIONS AS WELL, THE NEXT PART OF THE APPLICATION IS ALL IS THE BASEMENT FLOOR PLAN, THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN.

TANNER WHITE: THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN WHICH I WOULD KNOW WE DO HAVE ONE EXTERIOR BALCONY HERE WHICH FACES THE WATER WHICH FACES MILTON HARBOR AND WE CREATED THIS.

TANNER WHITE: SECOND FLOOR BALCONY TO BE SCREENED BY THE NEIGHBOR BY CREATING A U SHAPE HOUSE SO THAT THIS THIS SECOND FLOOR SCREEN TERRORISTS WILL NOT BE SEEN BY THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OVER HERE, SO YOU CAN SEE, THIS PART OF THE HOUSE OVER HERE, OBVIOUSLY.

TANNER WHITE: THERE'S THE ATTIC PLAN AND THEN LASTLY, WE GET TO THE ELEVATIONS, SO THIS IS A SHINGLE SELL HOUSE WE'RE PROMOTING A LIGHT GRAY SHINGLE STYLE HOUSE WITH BLACK WINDOWS AND DOORS, WITH A GRAY ROOF.

TANNER WHITE: THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE WITH ONE ACCENT ON THE FRONT OF A METAL ROOFING OVER HERE.

TANNER WHITE: AND THEN, AGAIN IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, AND THIS IS FACING OBVIOUSLY NOT IN THE HARBOR.

TANNER WHITE: ONE METAL ROOFING OVER HERE THE REST, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO BE A LIGHT GRAY ROOFING AND THE BODY OF THE HOUSE TO BE A LIGHT GRAY PAINTED SHINGLE WITH CERTAIN ACCENTS ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT TO BE PAINTED WHITE CLAPBOARD.

TANNER WHITE: WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS OBVIOUSLY A TWO DIMENSIONAL ELEVATION WHICH IS SOMETIMES HARD TO UNDERSTAND FROM YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE, SO WE ACTUALLY DID A 3D RENDERING.

TANNER WHITE: HERE, WHICH SHOWS THE THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, SO THIS IS THE WATER, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE NATURAL GRADE THAT THAT DROPS DOWN FROM THE FRONT OF THE SITE AND THEN YOU CAN START TO SEE THE SHINGLES HERE MIXED IN WITH THE WHITE CLAPBOARD ON THE RIGHT.

TANNER WHITE: AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE COLORS AND TEXTURES THAT WE'VE PICKED OUT THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE WHICH ARE LIKE A LIGHT GRAY AND BLACK WINDOW COLOR SCHEME HERE ALL MIXED UP, OF COURSE, WITH STONE.

TANNER WHITE: AND THEN WE HAVE THE FRONT ELEVATION HERE, WHICH WOULD BE VIEWED FROM STUYVESANT NOW, WHICH IS SHOWING A LIGHT GRAY ROOF LIGHT GRAY PAINTED SHINGLES BLACK WINDOWS AND WHITE PAINTED CLAPBOARD OVER HERE MIXED WITH THE STONE OF THE CHIMNEY AND THE HOUSE.

TANNER WHITE: WATER TABLE.

YEAH.

JIM CORNACCHIA: GOT A QUESTION, OR SHOULD MICHAEL WAS THIS WAS THIS THIS SITE WHERE WE LOOKED AT OTHER PLANS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE BEFORE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I BELIEVE SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT, I BELIEVE SO, AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAN CERTAINLY CHIME IN IF THEY RECALL, BUT THERE WASN'T ANOTHER KIND OF VERY MODERN HOUSE AND HAVE THAT IT WAS ALMOST KIND OF BOTH.

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MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE DECK WITH A SEC HUGE SECOND FLOOR STORY LIKE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: PATIO AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: REST AND STUFF YEAH SO THAT NEVER GOT BUILD I GUESS.

I.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT AND THIS ISN'T THIS IS THIS IS TAKE WHATEVER NUMBER FOR THAT SITE GOT IT.

TANNER WHITE: OK, SO THE NEW APPLICATION NOT HAVING TO DO WITH THE SAME HOMEOWNERS CAN BE BUILDING THIS HOUSE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH GOT IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GOT IT UM YEAH THANKS JIM YEAH GREAT MEMORY THERE THAT THAT WAS A THAT WAS A FUN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: UM I DON'T I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: TONIGHT'S MEETING, BUT A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING APPLICATIONS TONIGHT KIND OF BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK FROM START TO FINISH, SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: JUST A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, I APPRECIATE THE RENDERINGS WELL, OTHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL MATERIALS, WHAT ABOUT THIS HOUSE KIND OF FITS IN WITH THE TRADITIONAL STYLE OF THE OF THE AREA.

TANNER WHITE: WELL THERE'S CERTAINLY OBVIOUSLY THE PITCHED ROOFS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SINGLE STYLE ERA, THERE ARE MODERN ELEMENTS OBVIOUSLY THIS PIECE OVER HERE TO THE LEFT, WHICH IS A FLAT ROOF STRUCTURE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE, OTHER THAN LARGE WINDOWS IS LARGELY.

TANNER WHITE: A TRADITIONAL STYLE FORM IT'S A SHINGLE STYLE HOUSE AND OTHER THAN OBVIOUSLY JUST THE LARGE AMOUNT OF GLASS WHICH WOULD BE TYPICAL FOR HOW SPACING THE WATER.

TANNER WHITE: SURE IT'S FOLLOWING THOSE FORMS OF THE SHINGLES TOWNHOUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT OBVIOUSLY.

TANNER WHITE: WHEN YOU SEE THINGS LIKE THIS OVER HERE TO THE LEFT THAT YOU KNOW THESE ELEMENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN, OF COURSE, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY LARGELY DUE TO THE FACT THAT.

TANNER WHITE: THE AREA ABOVE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH IS THE MASTER BEDROOM IS TRYING TO CAPTURE THOSE WATER VIEWS SO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A SINGLE CELL HOUSE.

TANNER WHITE: THAT IS TAKING THE MODERN ACQUISITION, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET VIEWS OF THE WATER, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LARGELY DESIRABLE.

TANNER WHITE: BUT THAT YOU KNOW DO DILLARD SCREENING FROM YOU KNOW LEFT TO RIGHT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE WILDLY OUT OF PLACE WITH THE NEIGHBORING HOUSES ON THE STREET.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH NOT APPRECIATE THAT I JUST I THINK PUTTING SHINGLES ON A HOUSE DOESN'T MAKE A SHINGLE STYLE SO I'LL HAVE TO ARGUE WITH YOU THERE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I MEAN LOOK IT'S A MODERN IT'S A VERY MODERN TAKE AND IT'S GOT SOME TRADITIONAL MATERIALS, BUT IT'S, NOT A SINGLE STYLE HOUSE LET'S JUST LET'S LET'S NOT KID OURSELVES UM IT'S A MODERN IT'S A MODERN HOUSE MODERN DESIGN, WITH SOME TRADITIONAL MATERIALS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW, INTERESTING I DON'T KNOW I MEAN, I GUESS, MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S LATE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS, LIKE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE LOOKS I CAN BE RIGHT IN KEEPING WITH LIKE IN MALIBU OR SOMETHING YOU KNOW SOME MALIBU CALIFORNIA, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I DON'T SEE IT FOR THIS LOCATION OR IN RYE, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER BOARD MEMBERS FEEL THE SAME WAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S AGAIN, YOU KNOW I GUESS THE SAME THE SITE JUST SEEMS TO ATTRACT THESE THESE UNUSUAL A TYPICAL DESIGNS FOR SOME REASON OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET OF HERE.

FRANK GADALETA: BEACH CLUBS.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: I THINK SHAMROCKS ACROSS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

UM.

FRANK GADALETA: YEAH.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, MICHAEL BUT I ACTUALLY LIKED THE HOUSE.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: I THINK IT IS MORE OF THEM, IT IS A MODERN HOUSE, BUT THEY DID TRY TO.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: ENTER YOU KNOW INCLUDE THOSE MORE TRADITIONAL ELEMENTS AND.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: I MEAN IF WE THINK BACK ABOUT THAT TUTOR THAT WE JUST.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: THAT WAS NEXT TO THE HOUSE THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT THAT HAS AN UBER MODERN BACK ON IT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: THAT'S TRUE I'LL BE HONEST I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: NO GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

JIM CORNACCHIA: I LIKE THIS BETTER THAN THE LAST ATTEMPT AT PUTTING A HOUSE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: ANY PIECE OF LAND.

JIM CORNACCHIA: RIGHT ADD BUT I, YOU KNOW WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT IS THE ROOM THAT'S ALL GLASS AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE LATE AT NIGHT, AND IS IT GOING TO BE VISIBLE.

JIM CORNACCHIA: FROM FROM THE STREET.

TANNER WHITE: SO THAT ROOM ON THE FAR LEFT IS ACTUALLY THE FAMILY ROOM.

TANNER WHITE: SO I MEAN IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, WILL IT BE SCREENED WE CAN HAVE AUTOMATIC SHADES OF COURSE IT LARGELY IS GOING TO BE SCREEN WITH LANDSCAPING FROM THE STREET, BUT THAT IS THEIR FAMILY ROOM THE ROOM OFF TO THE FAR LEFT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WELL THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY SEEING IN THE PLAN IS, AND MAYBE A LANDSCAPING PLAN WOULD HELP BECAUSE.

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JIM CORNACCHIA: WHY, I MEAN I DON'T THINK THE STREET IS THAT FAR AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.

TANNER WHITE: CORRECT SO ON THE FIRST PART OF THIS, AND THIS THIS PART OF THE APPLICATION HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WE'RE SCREENING, OTHER THAN THE DRIVEWAY INSURANCES OBVIOUSLY THE COMPLETE.

OKAY HOUSE.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: RIGHT BECAUSE I'M SURE I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT TO BE DISPLAYED AS MUCH AS WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: OR MAYBE THEY DO I DON'T.

KNOW.

TANNER WHITE: THAT'S A LARGE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH AND SORRY THE POOL, AND ALL THAT, AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION AS WELL.

TANNER WHITE: LEO IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN THERE.

LEO NAPIOR: SO THE POOL.

LEO NAPIOR: FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT GUIDELINES THAT WAS TAKEN OFF OF THE PERMIT, BUT I BELIEVE.

LEO NAPIOR: THERE'S A PUSH TO TRY TO REVIEW POOLS, AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE REVIEWING HOUSES SO CERTAINLY IT'S ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN HERE.

LEO NAPIOR: WE DID NOT HAVE STRUCTURAL DRAWINGS, BUT THE POOL LOCATION AND SIZE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON THERE IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE AT ALL IT'S JUST THE STRUCTURAL DRUGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE PREPARED.

LEO NAPIOR: AND WE HAVE FILED A SEPARATE APPLICATION NOW FOR THE FOR THE POOL AS WELL JUST TO HAVE A PERMIT APPLICATION IN THE SYSTEM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BUT.

LEO NAPIOR: TANNER CAN THERE'S A POOL THERE'S A PORTION OF THE DECK THAT'S COVERED THERE'S A.

LEO NAPIOR: PROPOSED FIRE PIT AREA AND THE SPAS OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE POOL AS WELL.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WELL, BUT SO WE AND WE JUST HAVE THIS WE HAVE ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS FOR THAT OR JUST THE SITE PLAN AT THIS POINT FOR THE BALL.

TANNER WHITE: WELL, WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN FOR THE LOCATION FOR THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN, OF COURSE, ON THE ARCHITECTURAL IS ACTUALLY THEY ARE SHOWN.

TANNER WHITE: IN TERMS OF WHERE THE POOL LOCATION IS THE SPA THE DECK ALL OF THAT STUFF BUT THE THE THE FIRE PIT THE SORT OF MISCELLANEOUS MATERIALS OVER HERE ARE ALSO ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: IN ALL FAIRNESS, WE JUST RECEIVED THE APPLICATION OF THE PLANS FOR THE POLE AND ETC TODAY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

DAWN SZCZERBA-HOST: NOT FOR THE NEXT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FRANK THANKS DON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I MEAN LOOK, I MEAN THE BOARDS, I THINK, STRONG PREFERENCE IS ALWAYS THE SEE EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND PIECE MAILING APPLICATIONS IS IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IS NOT MY PREFERENCE AND YOU KNOW AND DOING IN PIECES PARTS, SO WE CAN'T EVER SEE EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THEN REVIEW IT ALL AS A PACKAGE IS IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOT HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE AND AND AND NOT HOW I PERSONALLY WANT TO LOOK AT IT, SO WE HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS PROJECT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS APPLICATION IS WHAT I'M HEARING AND IT WILL BE FILED SEPARATELY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO.

FRANK GADALETA: WHY DON'T WE DO IT ALL TOGETHER IN TWO WEEKS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: EXACTLY, I THINK I THINK I NEED.

LEO NAPIOR: THINK ABOUT I COULD, IF I COULD SHARE THE PIECES THAT ARE THAT ARE MISSING FOR THE POOL AND THE STRUCTURAL DRAWINGS, WHICH WOULD STILL BE SOME SOME WAYS OUT, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

LEO NAPIOR: ADDITIONAL MATERIALS TO YOU WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IS THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS AND THE SITE PLAN I DON'T HAVE THINGS LIKE SHOT DROOLING SHOWING.

LEO NAPIOR: YOUR FILTRATION ITEMS IN.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOUR YOU DON'T NEED THAT FOR THE VAR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO UM I MEAN LOOK I I YEAH, I THINK, SEEING IT ALL TOGETHER MAKES SENSE, I THINK, INTERESTED OTHER PARTIES AND NEIGHBORS ETC, AND SO FORTH, WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT TO SEE IT ALL TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE SITE AND WHAT'S POTENTIALLY IMPACTING THEIR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW YOU DON'T NEED ALL THAT STUFF THAT YOU MENTIONED LEO FOR FOR VAR THAT'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BUT WE CERTAINLY I THINK WANT TO LIKE WE DID A PREVIOUS APPLICANT AND LIKE WE KNEW MANY APPLICANTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND LIKE IS IT A PREFERENCE OF THE OF THE BOARD AND THE PURPOSE OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE REVIEW ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS, AT THE SAME TIME AND HONESTLY I GOT TO THINK ABOUT THIS ONE, BECAUSE I THINK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S DIFFERENT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THAT'S NOT BAD OR GOOD IT'S, NOT A SINGLE STYLE HOUSE BUT IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I THINK ABOUT IT, SO I MEAN I I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD I HATE TO DO THIS AGAIN, BUT MY SUGGESTION IS TO CONTINUE AGAIN ANOTHER PROJECT TO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW, I GUESS, THINK ABOUT IT, SOME MORE AND VISIT THE VISIT THE SITE WILL BE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON STUYVESANT OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS IT SOUNDS LIKE.

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LEO NAPIOR: NO I'M NOT SURE MICHAEL JUST SO I'M CLEAR AND WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOMETHING RESPONSIVE TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE A CROSS SECTION THAT JUST SHOWS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WELL, YOU, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SOME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: COVERED PORTIONS OF.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THE POOL.

TANNER WHITE: YOU HAVE A SPAWN YOU HAVE A RECOVERY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: STAIRS AND AND AND WALLS AND WHATNOT THAT'S ALL IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.

TANNER WHITE: THAT'S CORRECT, SO ALL OF THIS IS ACTUALLY SHOWN HERE THE COVERED TERRORISTS, WHICH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WAS ACTUALLY SHOWN IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS ABSOLUTELY.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE POOL IS INCLUDED IN WHAT WAS NOTICED AND PROVIDED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I DON'T KNOW, TWO WEEKS AGO FOR FOR EVERYONE TO VIEW IS THAT CORRECT.

TANNER WHITE: THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WAS IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE HOUSE WAS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, SO IT WASN'T INCLUDED FOR FOR INTERESTED PARTIES TO THE.

FRANK GADALETA: DOGS, THEY JUST GOT IT.

THEY RECEIVED.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: NOBODY'S SEEN IT THIS FIRST TIME ANYBODY'S SEEN THE POOL.

LEO NAPIOR: SO SO MIKE I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WAS IN THE INITIAL BUILDING FROM AN APPLICATION.

LEO NAPIOR: OKAY, THE LANDSCAPE CERTAIN INFINITY EDGE POOLED LANDSCAPE PLANNING SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE POOL TOP OF ALL BOTTOM OF WALL, WHERE THE TRUTH IS.

LEO NAPIOR: I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR, AS FAR AS PLANS GO.

LEO NAPIOR: THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS SHOW THE COVERAGE FOR THE COVER TERRORISTS PORTION OF THE OF THE PATIO AREAS.

LEO NAPIOR: AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GRAVEL AND A FIRE PIT I MEAN IT'S NOT A THESE AREN'T LIKE IT'S NOT LIKE AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN KIND OF THING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CROSS SECTION SHOWING WHERE ALL THE EQUIPMENT LOCATION IS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: RIGHT SO.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: BUT THE PROPOSED POOL IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION RIGHT SO WHATEVER WHATEVER WE DO TONIGHT IS NOT DOESN'T RELATE TO THE POOL ANYWAY, IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND THEY HAVE TO VIEW THE POOL AGAIN SEPARATELY, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR PROCESS.

LEO NAPIOR: IT'S NOT THE PROCESS, SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SPEAKING TO THE CITY AND, IN PARTICULAR, SPEAKING OF THE CITY PLANNERS HE'S TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE IT SO IT GOES THROUGH ONE REVIEW WITH YOUR BOARD, EVEN IF IT GETS TOO DIFFERENT PERMITS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SO INITIALLY WE FILED.

LEO NAPIOR: WE HAD TO GO FOR A WETLAND PERMIT FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH WE REFUSED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE FILED EVERYTHING WE GOT APPROVAL FOR FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THAT APPLICATION FILE THAT WAS TOLD TO SEPARATE THEM INTO TWO SEPARATE PERMITS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO WE PASS IT.

LEO NAPIOR: OFF AND THEN I JUST REFILED IT'S THE SAME MATERIALS FOR THE POOL THE POOL PERMIT APPLICATION HAS THE SAME ENGINEERING MATERIALS AND LANDSCAPE WHEN.

LEO NAPIOR: THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE THERE'S NO NEW INFORMATION THAT WAS FILED.

OK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OK.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: APOLOGIES FOR MY CONFUSION OR MAYBE IT WAS JUST CONFUSING BUT.

LEO NAPIOR: I'M TRYING TO BE COOPERATIVE AND NOT TRYING TO BE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: HERE THAT'S HELPFUL I THINK IT'S JUST CONFUSING PROCESS BACK AND FORTH SO I'M.

FRANK GADALETA: MICHAEL SHOULD WE SEE IF THERE'S ANY NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE COMMENTS.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT WE HAVE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH WE HAVE EIGHT FOLKS WE HAVE A NEIGHBOR IS GIVE KANE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: GIVE YOU'RE ON MUTE IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS QUESTIONS.

GIBB KANE: SURE, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YES, SIR.

GIBB KANE: OKAY YEAH QUESTION.

GIBB KANE: I WOULD SEND THE NOTICE FOR THIS MEETING IN TIME AND STUFF LIKE THAT I DID NOT GET ONE A MONTH AGO FOR PLANNING SO MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION THAT MORE IS IMPORTANT FOR PLANNING, BUT I'M IN THE HOUSE AT 350 WHICH IS JUST TO THE SOUTHWEST.

GIBB KANE: OF THIS HOUSE IF YOU COULD TAKE THE PLANNING THE LANDSCAPE CHART.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THERE.

GIBB KANE: AND SORT OF SLIDE IT TO THE RIGHT, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE BORDER WITH OUR HOUSE I'M GOOD, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I.

GIBB KANE: ANSWER QUICK AFTER FOUR AND A HALF HOURS HER FOOT FIVE HOURS, WE COULD SLIDE THAT TO THE OTHER WAY TO THE WRITERS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT THAT'S RIGHT.

GIBB KANE: AND THEN ZOOM IN THE QUESTION IS, I SEE THE LAWN AREA AND AND OUR HOUSES RIGHT ALONG THE BORDER HERE AND THERE'S A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WHICH IS, WHICH WAS SET UP.

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GIBB KANE: THE SAME COLOR AS THE LAW, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A FENCE ALONG THE ROAD I THINK IT'S 18 INCHES OR SO AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VISUAL EASEMENT NOT A.

GIBB KANE: PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, BUT WHAT IS THAT.

GIBB KANE: WALKWAY.

GIBB KANE: SO, GIVEN THAT THERE AND THEN IT GOES IT COMES UP TO THE UPPER LEFT AND THEN IT CIRCLES BACK DOWN ALONG THE WALL.

LEO NAPIOR: SO GIVE THAT'S NOT A WALKWAY THAT'S REALLY JUST A UNINTENDED.

LEO NAPIOR: DRAWING EFFECT, I SUPPOSE, AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION FOR THE DARLIN SCOUT CENTER THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT WAS IMPOSED, AND THERE WAS THREE SEPARATE.

LEO NAPIOR: PLANTING AREAS, IF YOU WILL, ONE AT THE FRONT THAT THE BIGGER ONE IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN THE ONE CLOSEST TO THE TO THE RESENTMENT IN THE BACK.

LEO NAPIOR: AND SO THAT'S JUST THE THE DEMARCATION, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THE THREE SEPARATE PLANTING TREES THERE'S NOT ANY PROPOSED OR CONTEMPLATED WALKWAY IT'S JUST WHERE ONE PLANTING AREA STOPS AND THE OTHER ONE STARTS CORRECT.

GIBB KANE: SECOND QUESTION IS ALL THE TREES HERE ON THE LEFT, IT SAYS MEDIUM SIZED EVERGREEN WHAT IS THE MEDIUM SIZE VERSUS LARGE.

LEO NAPIOR: TANNER IF YOU COULD I CAN'T GIVE ME A SECOND I CAN PULL IT UP ON MY OWN COMPUTER HERE, THERE SHOULD BE A HEIGHTENED INSTALLATION CHART SOMEWHERE.

TANNER WHITE: OR HERE.

YEAH I.

LEO NAPIOR: THINK BOTTOM RIGHT THERE.

GIBB KANE: GUYS SORRY I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT I COULDN'T ZOOM IN ON MY SO.

LEO NAPIOR: THOSE ARE GOING TO BE EIGHT TO 10 FEET AT INSTALLATION.

GIBB KANE: OKAY, GREAT AND THE THIRD THING IS IS THERE GOING TO BE CHIPPING INVOLVED WITH THERE'S A LOT OF ROCK AND AREA.

LEO NAPIOR: YET TO BE DETERMINED AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW GIBBS THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF RUBBLE ON SITE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE SCOUT CENTER.

LEO NAPIOR: THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME BEDROCK OUTCROPPING SO THERE'S MY GUESS IS THEY'RE GOING TO THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME LEVEL OF ROCK REMOVAL, BUT THE AMOUNT OF IT HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.

LEO NAPIOR: ON THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS GOING TO GO LARGELY WHERE SOME OF THE FOUNDATION WAS SO A LOT OF THAT'S BEEN BROKEN UP ALREADY.

LEO NAPIOR: BUT WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW WILL COMPLY WITH THE ROCK REMOVAL STANDARDS.

GIBB KANE: OKAY THAT'S IT FOR ME THANK YOU.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SORRY WE'RE AT 11 O'CLOCK I HONESTLY I DON'T THINK ON FOR FOR BORING PURPOSES, WE CAN GO MUCH LATER.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: AND BE PRODUCTIVE, I THINK WE MAY BE PASSED THE PRODUCTIVE STAGE ALREADY SO UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'LL JUST PUT IT TO THE SURVEY HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BEFORE APOLOGIES BEFORE WE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: MOVE ON.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I DON'T SEE ANY I SEE EIGHT PEOPLE STILL THERE, BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M NOT SEEING ANY RAISED HANDS UM SO BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE AND THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD THUS FAR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WHAT IS THE WHAT WAS ABOARD WANT TO DO YOU WANNA.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I DON'T THINK.

FRANK GADALETA: I DON'T HAVE A STRONG OBJECTION TO THE DESIGN ITSELF, I WILL SAY YOU KNOW IT'S A PROPERTY ON THE WATER, I THINK WE GIVE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY THERE A LOT OF CLASS WHICH MY KIND OF EXPECT FOR THE PROPERTY ON THE WATER.

AND FRANK GADALETA: SO YOU KNOW I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION YEAH.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: I AGREE WITH FRANK.

FRANK GADALETA: BUT IF IF OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WHY DON'T YOU KNOW DO A SITE VISIT WE CAN CONTINUE IT AND DO IT IN TWO WEEKS AND AND HAVE THE POOL, AT THE SAME TIME.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: OKAY, I MEAN IF IF FOLKS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE INFORMATION WE HAVE MOVING TO A DECISION THEN LET'S DO THAT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: WE HAVE 123.

FRANK GADALETA: WE'RE DOWN TO FOUR.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: FOUR OF US LEFT, WE LOST OTHERS UM.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I I'M NOT IN FAVOR SO YOU KNOW I HAPPY TO CALL VOTE AND WE CAN SETTLE IT THAT WAY, IF YOU'D LIKE.

FRANK GADALETA: WELL THEN, WHY DON'T WE.

FRANK GADALETA: WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE WITH THEM.

JIM CORNACCHIA: MY GOD I'M GONNA I'M GONNA GO WITH YOU JUST IN THAT, IN THE SPIRIT OF.

JIM CORNACCHIA: MAKING SURE THAT.

JIM CORNACCHIA: WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IT IS LEE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MICHAEL SO LET'S CONTINUE IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YEAH SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CALL IT A BOAT WE'D BE SPLIT 5050 SO.

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BUT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I THINK I THINK HEARING WORTHY EARLY HEARING, WHERE THE WHERE THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE RIGHT NOW SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SPLIT ON THIS AND.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: YOU KNOW IF WE COULD GET IF WE COULD GET TO A CONSENSUS FOR THE NEXT MEETING I THINK THAT'S GOING TO SERVE EVERYBODY MUCH BETTER, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND AND AND AND PROPOSE WE CONTINUE IT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: I'M.

FRANK GADALETA: SORRY SOUNDS GOOD.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: SO CONTINUED AND GOOD NIGHT.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: ALL RIGHT.

CHRISTINE BROESTTL: THANK YOU EVERYONE.

MICHAEL HARRINGTON: THANK YOU, MICHAEL THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.