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SO IT IS 211 AND I WILL CALL THIS
[A. Hold a retreat discussion facilitated by Raftelis and give staff direction and priorities concerning the following: City services and infrastructure; streets; parks; finances, budget; planning; zoning and development; environmental issues; human resources; technology; public utilities, taxes; engineering; economic development; code enforcement; city facilities; transportation; purchasing; management; intergovernmental relations; boards, commissions and committees; meetings; agenda development; Council-Manager governance; City Council communication with staff and the public; citizen surveys; key focus areas and priorities; specific goals for the 2022-2023 fiscal year; and without limitation, any and all operations of the City of Denton city government.]
MEETING TO TO ORDER.WE DO HAVE A FORUM. IT'S JUNE 24, 2022 TO 1.
AND THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL RETREAT.
DAY ONE, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE TOMORROW.
WE HAVE ONE ITEM TODAY AND THEN IT'S FIVE TWO, TWO, FIVE, EIGHT TO HOLD A RETREAT DISCUSSION FACILITATED BY I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION OF GET SOME ENUNCIATION FROM AND PRIORITIES CONCERNING THE FOLLOWING CITY SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE OF STREETS, PARKS, BUDGET PLANNING, ZONING, PRODUCTION, ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC..
I THINK THE WORD YOU WERE STUMBLING OVER WAS RESTLESS.
YES, I LEAD THE MANAGEMENT PRACTICE, MANAGEMENT CONSULTING PRACTICE AT RENT.
TELL US IF WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT YOUR RETREAT.
I THINK TELL US ALSO MIGHT DUE TO YOUR WATER RATES OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
WE HAVE AN OFFICE IN AUSTIN AND MY COLLEAGUES ARE JULIE GESICKI, WHO'S A VISUAL FACILITATOR.
AND DR. JOHN NALBANDIAN, THE PROFESSOR EMERITUS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS, A GENTLEMAN WHO'S TAUGHT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS, WENT ON THEIR CAREERS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND CITY MANAGEMENT AND ALSO FORMER CITY COMMISSIONER AND MAYOR OF LAWRENCE, KANSAS.
SO HE'S GOING TO BE THE BULK OF OUR PROGRAM TODAY.
JUST VERY QUICKLY, TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN STORE FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS.
WE'RE GOING TO END THE DAY WITH ME ASKING THE GOVERNING BODY TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THEY LOVE ABOUT DEBT AND THAT ARE TRUE TODAY THAT THEY HOPE WOULD STILL BE TRUE TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
WE'LL PLAN TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE BY 5:00 TODAY.
JOHN'S GOT A 7:00 FLIGHT AND AN UBER IS PICKING HIM UP AND WHISKING HIM AWAY.
IF WE READ A LITTLE BIT OVER, I'M NOT WHISKING HIM SO HE CAN HEAD OUT.
THERE'S NO QUIZ. YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DO WANT TO HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK.
OH, DID YOU BRING IT? OKAY, SO THERE'S A TEST, SO PAY ATTENTION, TAKE NOTES.
PROFESSORS NEVER LET YOU OFF THE HOOK.
SO WE'LL DO SOME EXERCISES TOMORROW.
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE STAFF ABOUT THE SURVEY RESULTS, WHICH I READ YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL YESTERDAY, SO RYAN'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH HIGH LEVEL SOME OF THE RESULTS FROM THAT CITIZEN SURVEY.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FOCUS AREAS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN USING IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK AT WORK, AND KIND OF SEE HOW THIS CITY COUNCIL INTERPRETS THOSE AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT MOVING THE CITY FORWARD, SPEND SOME TIME DESIGNING, DEFINING SUCCESS AND HAVE YOU OUT OF HERE BY 4:00 TOMORROW AFTERNOON SO I CAN WHISK AWAY AND FLY BACK TO CINCINNATI.
I HOPE YOU'LL BE BOLD AS YOU TALK ABOUT IT.
BE POSITIVE TEMPERED WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF REALISM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL TRY TO DO IS CREATE A SPACE HERE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS YOU NEED TO HAVE, SAY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SAID, BUT IN WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN HEAR THEM ENGAGED IN FULLY PRESENT.
SO OFTEN THAT'S REALLY ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.
YOU DON'T NEED ANY OF THE DEVICES THAT YOU HAVE OUT TODAY.
SO I INVITE YOU TO PUT THEM AWAY.
PUT THEM AWAY. BUT JOHN'S GOING TO PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH NOTES.
AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT THEY NEED TO GOOGLE OR ANYTHING.
SO I INVITE YOU TO TRY TO STAY HERE AND ENGAGE WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS.
AND OF COURSE, CONSENSUS IS ACTUALLY A REALLY HIGH LEVEL OF.
AGREEMENT. ULTIMATELY, YOU VOTE MAJORITY RULES.
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THAT'S THE WAY THINGS WORK.BUT WHEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING MORE PEOPLE INSIDE OF THAT CIRCLE OF CONSENSUS AND A STRONGER AGREEMENT, THE DIRECTION BECOMES LOUD AND CLEAR FOR THE ORGANIZATION, AS YOU ALL DEFINE FOR THEM WHAT NORTH LOOKS LIKE, WHERE THEY'RE HEADED AND WHAT THEY'RE HOPING, WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO ACHIEVE.
SO THAT JUST MEANS NO INTERRUPTING, NO TALKING OVER DISAGREE AGREEABLY.
IF THERE WAS ANYTHING I LIKED ABOUT THE PANDEMIC, WHICH REALLY THERE'S NOTHING BUT EVERYONE HAD THEIR OWN SIX FOOT TABLE, WHICH WAS REALLY NICE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T TALK TO THE PERSON NEXT TO THEM.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SIDEBAR CONVERSATIONS.
SO TRY TO REMEMBER NOT TO DO THAT AND MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FUN AS WE WORK TOGETHER, BECAUSE IT'LL BE MORE FUN IF WE CAN LAUGH A LITTLE BIT AND ENJOY OUR TIME TOGETHER. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES TO ME AND SHARE AN EXPECTATION THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS RETREAT BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO JOHN AND SOMEONE CAN JUST VOLUNTEER THE PERSON ON THEIR RIGHT TO GO.
ALL RIGHT. HE JUST DID THIS TO YOU.
TO YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS AFTER HIM.
SO MAYOR GERARD HUDSPETH AND SO BORN AND RAISED HERE, IT'S HOMETOWN.
I THINK EXPECTATION IS JUST TO LEAVE WITH A TO YOUR POINT, JUST A SET OF GUARDRAILS THAT BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO OTHER ACCOUNTABILITY THAN JUST EACH INDIVIDUAL BUYING IN AND WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM.
BUT WHEN HE'S AROUND, SO THAT'S THAT'S HOPEFULLY MY THING IS JUST TO KIND OF SHUT OUT THE NOISE OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM AND AND JUST SAY, HEY, IN THE ROOM, I HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN IT OUTSIDE THE ROOM WHEN I'M OUTSIDE THE ROOM.
HI, BETTY AND JULIE, THERE'S A QUIZ TOMORROW.
YES, I GUESS MY EXPECTATION IS JUST THAT WE WILL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO FIND SOME THINGS THAT WE AGREE UPON, A SET OF OF SHARED VALUES AND SHARED GOALS THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON EVEN WHEN WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THINGS WHERE WE DISAGREE.
IF I GET CLOSE ENOUGH, I CAN READ THAT.
FRANK DIXON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
MCGEE IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME ONE MORE PRIVILEGE, DR.
NALBANDIAN, FROM A FROM A SHOCKER TO A JOKE ROCK STAR.
HOW'S THE MUSIC? IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR US.
NBA DRAFT LAST NIGHT. YEAH, ROSZAK.
RIGHT. MY EXPECTATION FOR THIS RETREAT IS THAT THOSE OF US ON COUNCIL CAN BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER IN A WAY THAT PERHAPS A LOT OF BODIES ARE NOT HONEST WITH OTHER PEOPLE, THAT WE CAN START TO FORM THOSE GENUINE RELATIONSHIPS THAT I BELIEVE ARE THE BARRIER BETWEEN SUCCESS AND FAILURE AND A MYRIAD OF ORGANIZATIONS. AND WE CAN SUPPORT THE STAFF IN A POWERFUL WAY SO THAT WE CAN THEY CAN ALL LIKE US.
YOU WANT TO BE LIKED BY OUR STAFF, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S AN ASPIRATION FOR SURE.
I AM EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY.
TOMORROW? MAIN GOAL IS TO LISTEN TO OR BE PRESENT WITH.
SO I DON'T GET TO DO THAT VERY OFTEN WHEN I'M NOT ASKING THEM FOR MONEY OR APPROVALS ON SOMETHING.
TODAY AND TOMORROW, IT'S A GROUND RULE ATTITUDE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF COUNCIL CONSENSUS THAT CAN BE FORMED AROUND SOME KEY AREAS.
CHRISTINE TAYLOR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER SAME THING.
I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE GOALS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A PLAN TO CARRY THIS OUT.
YEAH, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH EVERYBODY.
THAT SAID, THE OVERARCHING GOAL IS TO HAVE THE PRIORITIES, TO HAVE A CONSENSUS ABOUT PRIORITIES.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
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AND THAT THERE WILL BE MANY, MANY THINGS THAT WILL ATTEMPT TO DISTRACT US FROM THOSE PRIORITIES.BUT THAT OUTSIDE OF ACTUAL EMERGENCIES, THAT WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THE PRIORITIES AND NOT LET OURSELVES BE SIDETRACKED WHEN WE THINK OF A NEW BRIGHT, SHINY THING. RIGHT.
AND THAT WE HAVE THAT WE LEAVE WITH THAT MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WORKED HARD TO GET TO THESE.
HERE WE ARE. AND THEN WE PASS THEM LATER ON.
WE VOTE ON THEM LATER ON THAT BARRING A TRUE EMERGENCY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU. SO SIMILAR TO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, I'M REALLY FOCUSED ON THE PRIORITIES AND HOW THOSE ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE BUDGET.
I GOT THREE OUT OF FOUR LETTERS.
MOST OF US ARE SKIPPING OUR NAMES.
THAT'S REALLY GOOD. AND SO I'M I'M INTERESTED IN A VERSION OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
THAT WILL ALLOW US TO CRAFT GOOD GOALS GOING FORWARD.
THAT ACTUALLY MATCHES NOT JUST OUR PRIORITIES THAT ARE ACTIONABLE.
THANK YOU. I'M MADISON WALKER, CITY AUDITOR.
AND I SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO COUNSEL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FACTS.
I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM THEM ABOUT THE FUTURE.
ALL RIGHT. I LIKE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
THANK YOU. HEY, CHRIS, WHAT'S PLAYSTATION? SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY SERVE AS MAYOR FOR SIX YEARS, SO I'VE BEEN AROUND PUBLIC SERVICE FOR A WHILE.
I SHARE THE SENTIMENTS OF EVERYBODY AS FAR AS LET'S HAVE SOME STRATEGIC GOALS.
I THINK, THOUGH, WE CANNOT IGNORE THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SIX MONTHS, THERE'S BEEN A AN ENVIRONMENT OR A SENTIMENT ON THE BODY HAS CREATED SOME ANIMOSITY.
AND YOU'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN IN MEETINGS.
YOU'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
YOU'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO I THINK ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE ABLE TO BE DONE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ATTACK AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO DO IT BEHIND THE SCENES.
IF THAT'S A PROBLEM TO SOMEBODY, CONFRONT THEM OR NOT CONFRONT THEM, ADDRESS IT WITH THEM.
SO I'M ALL GOOD WITH ALL OF THIS, BUT I'VE SERVED A LONG TIME.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HOPE TO COME OUT OF THIS, IS THAT WE HAVE A NEW UNDERSTANDING AND A COMMITMENT TO THAT KIND OF WORKING RELATIONSHIP, NOTWITHSTANDING OUR POSITIONS ON SPECIFIC ISSUES.
DAVID GAINES, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER I THINK SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THOSE PRIORITIES AS WE MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER THE ACTION PLANS TO ACCOMPLISH THEM, DEVELOP THE BUDGET AND HAVE THOSE GUIDEPOSTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THE FEEL AND THE FLAVOR OF THIS TOWN HAS KEPT ME HERE.
REALISTIC ABOUT OUR GOALS AND ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE APPROACH ONE ANOTHER.
I WANT TO BE REAL ABOUT IT AND REALLY REAL.
THANK YOU. YOU SAID YOU SAID THE FEEL OF THE PLACE THIS IS THIS IS IS BECOMING AND IS KNOWN FOR ITS HOMETOWN FEEL WITH BIG CITY AMENITIES.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PLACES THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE BECAUSE WE'VE MADE IT FEEL LIKE THAT WE ARE WE HAVE A FAMILY FEELING HERE IN THIS TOWN, BUT WE'RE ALSO KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GROWTH, WHICH IS GOING TO FACILITATE A CERTAIN KIND OF DISCUSSION.
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AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF LEADERS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US GROW IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE FELT LIKE WHEN WE CAME HERE.I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WHATEVER EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS STAFF TO HAVE THE PRIORITIES VERY CLEAR, CLEAN AND CONCISE SO THAT WE AND THE MARCHING ORDERS UNDER THAT WHAT ARE SPECIFIC PRIORITY AREAS.
BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR ME AS A CITY MANAGER TO FOR THE COUNCIL TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.
AND I THINK NALBANDIAN IS GOING TO COVER THAT AS THE ROLE OF COUNCIL AND BEING MAYBE THE 150 LEVEL, 1000 FOOT LEVEL AND ALLOWING THE STAFF TO OPERATE THE CITY.
SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN AND THAT THERE WILL BE SOME CLEAR, DEFINING MOMENTS AND SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, BUT ALSO ENDING UP WITH SOME CLEAR ROADMAP FOR US.
SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
WE KNOW OUR TIMELINES, WE GET IT IN OUR MATRIX.
AND THEN, AS COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS SAID, WE STICK TO THOSE PRIORITIES.
SOUNDS GOOD. WELL, EVERY STAFF PERSON SAID THEY JUST WANT DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
SO GREAT SET UP FOR THE WORKSHOP THAT JOHN'S GOING TO LEAD.
I DID. AND I LEARNED SOMETHING EVERY TIME.
AND I'VE HEARD IT MORE THAN THAT A LOT.
SO HIGH PERFORMANCE GOVERNANCE.
SO THIS IS THE TITLE OF THE SUBTITLE, BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN THIS POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE AND ADMINISTRATIVE OR OPERATIONALLY SUSTAINABLE, MEANING THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND CAN WE DO IT.
SO SO I MEAN, JUST THINK OF THE DYNAMICS BETWEEN COUNCIL AND STAFF COUNCIL SAYING WE'D LIKE TO DO CAN WE DO WE WANT TO DO THIS, WE WANT TO DO THAT.
AND THEN STAFF SAYING WE CAN WE CAN.
AND THAT GAP NEEDS TO BE BRIDGED IN ORDER FOR ANYTHING EFFECTIVELY TO GET TO GET DONE.
USUALLY WE THINK OF THE LOGIC OF THAT SEQUENCE AS WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT CAN WE DO IT? BUT IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA IS THAT A LOT OF THE ITEMS WORK IN OTHER WAY.
THE SEQUENCE, WHICH IS STAFF, BRINGS TO YOU SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE OR BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT THAT SET OF INITIATION, IT GOES GOES BOTH WAYS. THE WHEN I TALK ABOUT POLITICAL ACCEPTABILITY OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SUSTAINABILITY CAN GET THAT SHOULD BE OPERATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY.
NOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SPACE BETWEEN WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND CAN WE DO.
THAT SPACE NEEDS TO BE BRIDGED.
SO TRADITIONALLY THAT'S THE ROLE OF THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE STAFF AND SHARE THE COMMUNICATION AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
NOW, I ASSUME COUNCIL HAS THE FREEDOM TO TO TALK TO INDIVIDUAL STAFF MEMBERS AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A DEMAND OR SOMETHING LIKE, BUT FOR, FOR, FOR INFORMATION.
BUT BUT NEVERTHELESS, WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE, THAT GAP, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE NOTION OF THE GAP, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
THE CHALLENGE TODAY IS THE GAP IS GROWING.
AND THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE AS THE GAP IS GROWING, IT'S HARDER TO BRIDGE THE GAP AS THAT GETS
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WIDER. KNOWING THAT THAT BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE NEEDS, THAT GAP NEEDS TO BE BRIDGED.MORE PEOPLE ARE BROUGHT ON TO THE BRIDGE TO HELP FACILITATE THAT CONNECTION. NOW, THAT IS THE CHALLENGE, BECAUSE IT IS A PARTICULAR CHALLENGE TO PEOPLE LIKE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ARE FINDING THEMSELVES MORE INVOLVED WITH COMMUNITY.
EXPECT IT TO REPRESENT THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY AND VICE AND VICE VERSA.
SO AS THE GAP GROWS, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES START TO MOVE.
AND THAT CREATES A DYNAMIC THAT IS NOT ALWAYS IS NOT ALWAYS CLEAR.
ALL RIGHT. NOW, IN ORDER TO HELP BRIDGE THE GAP, IN ORDER TO WORK IN THAT SPACE BETWEEN POLITICAL AND OPERATIONAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE.
THERE ARE TWO SETS OF UNDERSTANDING OR KNOWLEDGE THAT I THINK THAT ARE HELPFUL. VERY HELPFUL.
THE FIRST IS UNDERSTANDING THAT POLITICS INVOLVES CHOICES AMONG CONFLICTING VALUES.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE POLITICS, BECAUSE THERE ARE CONFLICTING VALUES AND WE NEED A BODY THAT'S AUTHORIZED TO PRIORITIZE THOSE THOSE VALUES.
SO BRIDGING THE GAP FACILITATED BY UNDERSTANDING POLITICS INVOLVES CHOICE AMONG CONFLICTING VALUES.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE TAGLINE, UNLESS IT'S YOURS, OF COURSE.
I HOPE YOU REALIZE THAT'S FACETIOUS.
AND LAST AND THE SECOND THE SECOND PATH TO WHAT I CALL POLITICAL ASTUTENESS IS UNDERSTANDING THAT POLITICS AND ADMINISTRATION INVOLVE MORE THAN DIFFERENT BEHAVIORS.
THEY ARE DIFFERENT WAYS OF THINKING.
AND THOSE GLASSES INFLUENCE VERY HEAVILY WHAT YOU SEE.
SO BEING ABLE TO APPRECIATE THE LENS OF THE OTHER PARTY CAN ENHANCE THE EFFECTIVENESS, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE GROUP.
BY THE WAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENT, JUST LET ME KNOW.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE A COUPLE OF VIDEOS.
I HAVE A CASE STUDY FOR YOU, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE TALKING FOR 3 HOURS.
OKAY. SO I WANT TO START WITH A VERY BRIEF LOOK AT FORM OF GOVERNMENT, A QUICK REVIEW, BECAUSE IN YOUR COUNCIL MANAGER GOVERNMENT NOT USED SPECIFICALLY, BUT IN COUNCIL MEMBER MANAGEMENT GOVERNMENT GENERALLY THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT, WE USE THE TERM GOVERNING BODIES.
THE GOVERNING BODY REFERS TO THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WORKING AS A BODY.
THE WORD AND CONCEPT OF GOVERNING BODY DOES NOT EXIST AT THE STATE LEVEL OR AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. NOR DOES IT EXIST IN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT FORUM THAT'S CALLED MAYOR COUNCIL.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU. I'LL SHOW YOU THAT.
SO WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S REALLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS IS THAT OFTEN TIMES, LIKE CITIES, RESIDENTS, THEY WILL THEIR IMPRESSION OF THE MAYOR AND WHAT THE MAYOR SHOULD DO IS BASED ON THE PUBLICITY THAT THEY READ FROM MAYORS OF LARGER CITIES.
THOSE MAYORS OF LARGER CITIES OFTEN ARE NOT ARE NOT PART OF A COUNCIL MANAGER FORUM. THEY MAY BE PART OF A STRONG MAYOR FORM.
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AND I'LL SHOW YOU. I'LL SHOW YOU THAT.SO LET'S SO I WANT TO SHOW YOU NOW A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THE WAY THESE FORMS THE WAY THESE FORM OF GOVERNMENTS WORK OUT IN TERMS OF THE GRAPHIC.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT HOUSTON BECAUSE HOUSTON IS A HOUSTON IS A VERY TYPICAL.
AND THIS IS CALLED A MAYOR OR COUNCIL FORM OR A STRONG, STRONG MAYOR.
YOU SEE HERE THAT THE MAYOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE EXECUTIVE OPERATION.
NOW, THERE MAY BE A CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, BUT THAT PERSON WOULD BE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR.
MAYBE WITH THE ADVICE AND CONSENT OF COUNCIL, THERE'S SO MANY VARIATIONS.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR ARE VERY, VERY DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THAT ORG CHART.
THE COUNCIL HAS NO FORMAL AUTHORITY OVER THE STAFF.
NOW, I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT THIS IS.
YOU CAN SEE IT AT THE STATE LEVEL.
RIGHT. IT'S ALSO THE FEDERAL IT'S ALSO A FEDERAL LEVEL.
SO SO THIS IS OFTENTIMES WHAT PEOPLE THINK THAT THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT LOOKS LIKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ROLE OF THE MAYOR.
BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE IS NO THERE IS NO GOVERNING BODY.
ALL RIGHT. NOW LET'S GO TO YOUR CHART.
AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE NOW.
THIS CHART THAT WE JUST SAW SEPARATES EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY.
SO THE EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY AND THE MAYOR, THE LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY IN THE CITY COUNCIL, JUST LIKE CONGRESS OR THE STATE OR THE STATE HERE, WHAT WE HAVE IS THE CITY COUNCIL AS A GOVERNING BODY.
THE MAYOR. AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE GOVERNING BODY APPOINTS A CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.
THE CITY MANAGER SERVES AT THE PLEASURE OF THE GOVERNING BODY.
SO THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE MAYOR.
SERVES AT THE PLEASURE OF THE GOVERNING BODY.
IT SERVES AT THE PLEASURE OF THE GOVERNING BODY RATHER THAN RATHER THAN THE MAYOR AND FOLLOWS THE DIRECTION OF THE GOVERNING BODY RATHER THAN JUST THE MAYOR.
SO THE MAYOR'S ROLE IS CONCEIVED OF AS A FACILITATIVE ROLE.
HOW LONG ARE YOU? HOW LONG IS YOUR TERM IN OFFICE? TWO YEAR TERM. TWO YEAR TERMS? YES. SO JUST NATURALLY, YOU KNOW, A KIND OF RESPECT AND AUTHORITY GOES TO THE MANAGERS.
THE MANAGER'S ROLE, I MEAN, THE MAYOR'S ROLE.
BUT THE FORMAL AUTHORITY THERE IS NOT THE SAME AS IT WOULD BE IN ANOTHER FORM.
SO WE ACTUALLY CALL THIS MAYOR IN THE FORM OF FACILITATIVE MANNER, FACILITATING THE WORK OF THE COUNCIL, FACILITATING COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, FACILITATING INTERGOVERNMENTAL KINDS OF KINDS OF KINDS OF THINGS, AND SPEAKING SPEAKING FOR SPEAKING FOR THE CITIES.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN BETWEEN THESE TWO FORMS? SEE, THIS FORM IS THAT THIS FORM IS DESIGNED TO PREVENT BAD THINGS FROM HAPPENING BECAUSE IT SEPARATES POWER.
IT SEPARATES LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE POWER.
AND CHECKS AND BALANCES IS WHAT CHECKS AND BALANCES IS ABOUT.
THERE IS NO CHECKS AND BALANCES HERE.
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THAT'S NOT THE CONCEPT.I MEAN, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN AUTHORITY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
DO I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT.
I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING NOW ABOUT.
TO THIS. THIS CAME ABOUT IN THE EARLY 1900S.
SO WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME WAS INDUSTRIALIZATION WAS MOVING PEOPLE INTO CITIES.
IMMIGRATION WAS MOVING PEOPLE INTO THE CITIES.
CITIES WERE INCREASING SIGNIFICANTLY IN SIZE AND POPULATION.
THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT LOCALLY WAS VERY UNSUITED TO THE NEEDS OF THESE GROWING CITIES.
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE BEFORE THE CITIES REALLY TACKLED IT? CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE? CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE? CAN YOU IMAGINE ABOUT WATER PURIFICATION OF WATER? I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS COULD BECOME ACCENTUATED WITH THIS MOVEMENT INTO INTO THE CITY.
THE POLITICS AT THE TIME WERE PARTIZAN AND WERE AND LEADING TO A LOT OF CORRUPTION, WHAT WE WOULD CALL CORRUPTION TODAY.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S AN ANECDOTE.
IT'S NOT AN ANECDOTE. IT'S A QUOTE FROM A NEWSPAPER, FROM THE WICHITA NEWSPAPER IN THE 1920S, I THINK IT WAS. AND THE QUOTE SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO THE MAYOR IS.
BECAUSE WHEN THE MAYOR CHANGES OFFICE, THE POLICE THE POLICE FORCE CHANGES AS WELL.
YES. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE RUN THINGS RUN THINGS TODAY.
SO THE REFORM THEN THIS WAS SEEN AS A REFORM.
AND SO WE WENT FROM A LARGE A LARGE LEGISLATIVE BODY IN THE CITIES DOWN TO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL, DOWN TO FIVE PEOPLE, FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE WANTED THE BIG WE WANTED EVERYBODY WORKING ON THE BIG PICTURE AND ONLY FIVE.
AND GUESS HOW THE MAYOR WAS CHOSEN? TOWN COUNCIL FROM WITHIN THE COUNCIL BY THE GOVERNING BODY.
BECAUSE THEORETICALLY, WE WANTED THE MAYOR TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE GOVERNING OF THE GOVERNING BODIES. AND THEY'RE ALL AT LARGE AT LARGE ELECTIONS AND THE GOVERNING BODY AND NON PARTIZAN AS WELL.
NOW, A LOT OF ADAPTATIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER TIME, BUT THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL FOR THIS.
AND SAMUEL HABER WROTE A BOOK IN THE NINTH.
NO, WROTE THE BOOK IN THE SIXTIES, I THINK.
BUT YOU WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT AND THE FIRST DURING THE SECOND TWO DECADES OF THE 20TH CENTURY.
AND HE SAID AT NO TIME HAS THE LINK BETWEEN MORALITY AND EFFICIENCY BEEN COMBINED MORE THAN AT THAT TIME.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT WAS ABOUT.
IT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE EFFICIENCY.
LOTS OF ADAPTATIONS, BUT NEVERTHELESS, THE FORM EXISTS TODAY.
AND HERE, JUST A VERY SIMPLE, VERY SIMPLE GRAPH OF PICTURE.
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BUT HERE'S THE QUESTION.WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN ORG CHART, HAVE YOU EVER ASKED YOURSELF WHETHER THE LENGTH AND WIDTH OF THE LINE MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE ARENAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT IN CHART AND ALL YOU WANT TO KNOW IS THE RELATIONSHIPS, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT SAYING I CAN'T LOOK AT THAT LINE IS REALLY LONG.
WHY IS IT SO LONG OR WHY ISN'T THAT A WIDER LINE? THAT'S THAT THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS SO VITAL.
THERE'S SO MUCH COMMUNICATION ON THAT.
SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I CREATED MY OWN HYPOTHETICAL ORG CHART AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
THIS IS WHAT I THINK OF WHEN I THINK OF WHEN I THINK OF YOUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
I THINK OF ARENAS, I THINK OF OCEAN, I THINK OF A POLITICAL ARENA, AND I THINK OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE ARENA.
AND I THINK THAT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS SPACE IS TWOFOLD.
IT'S. CAN WE CAN WE DETERMINE WHAT IT IS THAT RESIDENTS WANT TODAY AND AS WE LOOK TO AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE.
RIGHT. AND SO AND THEN ALSO, THIS IS THE SPACE WHERE YOU INFLUENCE. YOUR ROLE AS A GOVERNING BODY MEMBER IS TO INFLUENCE THAT WILL.
SO ON THE ONE HAND, YOU'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT IT IS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU'RE TRYING TO AFFECT IT AS WELL.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT'S WHAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IS.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS IN THE ARENA IS THAT THOSE THOSE FUNCTIONS OF DETERMINING AND INFLUENCING THE POLITICAL WILL SO THAT WE WANT CAN KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
IF YOU, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE NOT PLAYING IN THIS ARENA, WHO IS.
SO YOU THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU'RE MORE COMFORTABLE DOWN HERE.
WAS UP HERE. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE AS WELL IS A NUMBER OF I HAVE I HAVE DIFFERENT.
DIFFERENT BRIDGES SO THAT EACH EACH EACH ISSUE THAT YOU DEAL WITH, YOU CAN I CAN CONCEIVE OF IT AS A BRIDGE.
NOW BRIDGE HAS TO BE CONNECTED.
WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS A BRIDGE THAT GOES GOVERNING BODY, SEAMEN, PARTNERS, STAFF.
MEANING WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE WHO COULD WHO COULD LEGITIMIZE WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO DO.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
NOW, HERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER EXAMPLES.
HERE'S A SEGMENT OF THE BRIDGE THAT HAS A LOT OF STAFF SUPPORT.
BUT WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL SAY? THE TIME IS RIGHT.
SEE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN FOR YOU, YOUR STAFFERS.
SEE, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
SHE'S SAYING, LOOK IT, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT.
I KNOW WE NEED TO DO IT AT SOME POINT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL AT THIS POINT.
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ALTERNATIVELY, WE CAN LOOK OVER HERE AND SAY, HERE'S AN INITIATIVE THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, WANTS TO GET DONE, AND THE STAFF COMES BACK AND SAYS, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THAT WILL COST? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLOCATE MONEY FROM THIS FUND TO THAT FUND, AND YOU'VE MADE THIS FUND A PRIORITY. SO DO YOU SEE HOW THAT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THOSE DYNAMICS MAKE THIS SPACE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT? AND WHAT I'VE DONE NOW IS TO CHANGE THIS IN AN OVERALL.
BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO SUGGEST IS THAT THE MANAGER'S WORK IS GETTING SPREAD THINNER AND THINNER BECAUSE THE DYNAMICS OF CONNECTING THESE TWO AREAS ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE CHALLENGING.
SO OTHER PEOPLE ARE BROUGHT ONTO THE BRIDGE.
WHETHER THE MANAGER INVITES IT OR NOT.
USUALLY IT'S AN INVITATION TO DEPARTMENT HEADS TO HELP OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU HERE NOW IN IN DENTON.
BUT WHEN I READ THE PAPER IN LAWRENCE, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING I'VE READ IS MULTIDISCIPLINARY, RIGHT? IS INTER-GOVERNMENTAL.
I'M ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.
I'M ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ADVISORY BOARD.
I JUST FINISHED CHAIRING A TASK FORCE ON MODIFICATIONS IN OUR, IN OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT, AND IT JUST FINISHED WITH A FRIEND OF MINE WRITING A CHAPTER ON THE FUTURE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND THE ONE THING THAT COMES OUT OF ALL OF THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE IS, BOY, YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO REACH OUTSIDE YOUR BOUNDARIES IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE.
YOU CANNOT DEAL WITH HOMELESSNESS WITH WITHOUT REACHING HOUSING, MENTAL HEALTH, EMPLOYMENT, I MEAN, JUST RIGHT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE A I JUST THIS IS JUST THE OTHER DAY.
WE HAVE A CEMETERY CALLED OAK HILL CEMETERY.
AND A SEGMENT OF THE CEMETERY IS HISTORIC, MEANING IT GOES BACK TO THE 1850S CONTRAS RAID AND FREE LAWRENCE, FREE, FREE LANCE, THE KANSAS ENTERING AS A FREE STATE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THERE ARE GRAVES THERE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED IN LAWRENCE WITH THE MASSACRE THAT OCCURRED.
QUANTRILL MASSACRE OF THE LAWRENCE IT'S IT'S, IT'S NOW THEY'RE BURIED IN KILL.
THERE IS A FRIENDS OF THE OAK HILL CEMETERY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE CAPABILITY TO MAINTAIN AND SUSTAIN THEIR SORT OF INTERESTS.
SO THEY REQUESTED THAT THEY BE ABLE TO JOIN INTO THE DOUGLAS COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
ALL RIGHT. NOW, WHO DO YOU THINK MAINTAINS THE CEMETERIES, PARKS AND REC OK.
NOW, HOW ABOUT THIS? THE CHEMICALS, PARKS AND REC USES? IS SHE SMILING RIGHT AT YOUR HEAD WHERE YOU'RE HEADED? CHEMICALS AT PARKS AND REC USES CAN HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON THESE HISTORIC GRAVESITES.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? THIS IS NOT A DECISION FOR PARKS AND REC.
IT'S NOT A DECISION FOR THE HISTORIC MUSEUM.
IT'S NOT A DECISION ONLY FOR THE LOCAL PEOPLE.
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IT'S A COLLECTIVE.NOW, WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE? NOBODY. IT MAY BE THAT ONE OF THOSE GROUPS HAS THE POWER TO CONVENE A CONVERSATION. BUT NOT TO AUTHORIZE.
AND THAT'S WHY LEADERSHIP TODAY, IN MY MIND, IS LESS ABOUT.
IT IS LESS ABOUT DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY AND IT IS MORE ABOUT NETWORKING. AND THERE'S MORE ABOUT CONVENING LEADERSHIP AS CONVENING IS GOING TO BE.
IT'S JUST LIKE, I WON'T GO ON.
ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT.
SO HERE WE CAN SEE THAT OPERATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY, POLITICAL ACCEPTABILITY, DISRUPTIONS WIDEN THE GAP. NOW, WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE DONE IDENTIFIED THREE SPECIFIC.
SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT LEVELS, MAYBE YOU PASS IT OUT SIMILAR WAY.
BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT NETWORKING IS KIND OF LIKE.
OK WHEN DEALING WITH HOMELESS IN THE WINTER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
BUT DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS IN WINTER IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY.
CANNOT. NO SINGLE ORGANIZATION CAN DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS IN THE WINTER IN A PLACE LIKE LAWRENCE, KANSAS. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO CREATE CONNECTIONS.
SEE, THAT'S THE NETWORK CREATES A NETWORK THAT CAN WORK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. NOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESSNESS, THAT IS A COMPLEX SET OF SET OF ACTORS AND.
THE MANAGER WILL BE MAYBE NOT SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT PARKS AND REC WAS CHARGED WITH HOUSING THE HOMELESS IN SOME OF OUR GYMS. NOT SURPRISED. I MEAN, YOU SEE IT NOW.
HERE'S WHAT'S HERE'S A HERE'S A FASCINATING PIECE ABOUT THAT AS WELL ABOUT ABOUT THE NETWORK IS.
IT'S A NETWORK YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE A NETWORK OF COLLABORATION.
WHERE WHERE AUTHORITY IS NOT OFTENTIMES IS NOT FIXED.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES OF THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO A HOMELESS SHELTER THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HERE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMMAND THAT.
BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO WORK THAT FORTH, WORK THAT RELATIONSHIP.
SO THE NETWORK AND NETWORKS TO ME AND THIS IS THIS GETS INTO A METAPHOR.
BUT NETWORKS TO ME ARE LESS PERMANENT THAN SYSTEMS. SEE, WHEN WE USE THE WORD SYSTEM, WE HAVE A SYSTEM TO DO THIS.
IT IMPLIES FOR ME SOMETHING THAT IS KIND OF FIXED IN TIME.
THE SYSTEM MAY INVOLVE ALL KINDS OF PIECES, BUT IT IS A SYSTEM SO THAT THERE'S A REGULARITIES.
AND THAT'S WHY THE LEADERSHIP.
THE NETWORKING THE NETWORKING FUNCTION.
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ALL RIGHT. SO WE WE MEET ANOTHER GUY.WE SURVEYED A GROUP OF A GROUP OF CITY MANAGERS.
AND WE ASKED THEM, BECAUSE WE WERE WRITING THIS CHAPTER FOR OUR SEGMENT, AND WE ASK THEM, WHAT ARE THE FORCES THAT YOU THINK ARE GOING TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF PROFESSIONALISM IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT? AND WE SAID THESE ARE FORCES THAT WILL MAKE THINGS MORE COMPLEX.
THESE ARE THE FORCES OF COMPLEXITY.
ONE OF THE MANAGERS WROTE BACK AND SAID.
YOU ARE BETTER OFF IDENTIFYING THESE FORCES AS DISRUPTIONS.
AND THE REASON WHY HE USED THE WORD DISRUPTIONS IS HE SAID, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATURAL WORLD, THESE DISRUPTIONS OCCUR ALL THE TIME.
WILDFIRES. AND YOU CANNOT PREDICT THEM.
YOU CAN YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO RESPOND.
SO DISRUPTIONS, HE SAID, ARE INEVITABLE.
WHAT IS NOT INEVITABLE IS YOUR RESPONSE.
YOUR RESPONSES ARE INTENTIONAL.
AND SO THE IDEA OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY DISRUPTIVE FORCES AND THEN HOW WE ARE GOING TO RESPOND TO THOSE IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND IN THIS ARTICLE AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE MANAGERS, IDENTIFIED THREE DISRUPTIONS, NATIONAL POLITICS FILTERING DOWN TO THE LOCAL LEVEL, STATE POLITICS FILTERING DOWN TO THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THE CONCEPT OF THE COUNCIL AS NON PARTIZAN IS BECOMING CHALLENGED BY BY THIS TREND.
TECHNOLOGY DRIVING CHANGE, BIG DATA, SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
AND THEN ISSUES HAVING TO DO WITH DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND INSTITUTIONAL BIAS THAT THESE ARE THE THREE FUNDAMENTAL DISRUPTIONS THAT WE ARE TRYING TRYING TO DEAL WITH.
THE PROFESSIONAL MANAGER AND PARTNERS FIND THEMSELVES IN THE GAP.
IF ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN WORK THE GAP AS PARTNERS, THAT'S ADDED VALUE.
IT IS IT IS IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE DIFFERENT BRIDGES.
WE HAVE A LONG BRIDGE, FAIRLY SECURE.
NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE NOT VERY SECURE.
AND A SHORT BRIDGE THAT IS TO RETURN.
NOW, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS NOW TO SHOW YOU A VIDEO, BECAUSE NOW THAT I'VE KIND OF SET THE STAGE AND SO FORTH, A COMPLICATION OF BRIDGING THE GAP AND IT'S GETTING WIDER.
AND SO NOW, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE ABILITY TO WORK THE BRIDGE, TO WORK THE GAPS TO TWO THINGS.
ONE, UNDERSTANDING THE VALUES AND TO UNDERSTANDING THE POLITICAL, ADMINISTRATIVE LOGIC.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS THESE ARE THE FOUR FOUR VALUES, THE FUNDAMENTAL DEMOCRATIC VALUES, AND WE'LL SEE THE VIDEO THAT WILL EXPLAIN THE VALUES.
THEY ARE ALSO LISTED IN YOUR BOOK.
SO WHAT I WANT TO DO NOW IS I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE VIDEO AND THEN I WANT YOU AS YOU'RE WATCHING A VIDEO, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE VALUES, ONE OR MORE OF THE VALUES IS
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REFLECTED HERE IN DENTON, PARTICULARLY IF YOU CAN FIND THE CONTENT, SOME OF THE CONFLICTS THAT YOU HAVE, SUBSTANTIVE CONFLICT, IF YOU CAN FIND VALUE DIFFERENCES THAT ARE AT THE ROOT OF THOSE.ALL RIGHT. LET'S TO THE VIDEO.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE FOUNDATIONAL CONCEPTS IN IN MAKING DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
THE TALK ABOUT POLITICAL VALUES, THE VALUES THAT CONFLICT AND MAKE POLICYMAKING SO DIFFICULT.
I'M GOING TO DO THIS FROM AN ACADEMIC PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT PERSPECTIVE IS INFORMED BY THE EIGHT YEARS I SPENT ON THE LAWRENCE CITY COUNCIL, INCLUDING TWO YEARS AS THE AS THE COUNCIL'S AS THE COUNCIL'S MAYOR.
SO, AS I SAID, BEHIND EMBEDDED IN DIFFICULT POLICY DECISIONS, I CALL THEM POLITICAL DECISIONS ARE QUESTIONS OF VALUES.
NOW, THESE ARE NOT PERSONAL VALUES LIKE LOVE, HONESTY AND SO ON AND LOYALTY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THESE ARE THESE ARE FUNDAMENTAL DEMOCRATIC VALUES.
AND AND THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM.
AND I DIDN'T PICK THESE OUT OF A HAT THERE.
THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH AGREED UPON IN IN THEORETICAL CIRCLES.
SO THE FIRST IS THE VALUE OF REPRESENTATION, THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE REPRESENTATIVES AND THERE ARE CONSTITUENCIES, AND YOU ARE EXPECTED TO RESPOND TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
SECOND, AND IN ADDITION TO TO THAT, TO THAT VALUE OF REPRESENTATION, I ADD THE NOTION OF ENGAGEMENT AND PARTICIPATION.
THE SECOND VALUE IS THE VALUE OF EFFICIENCY.
AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.
AND AND I ADD TO THAT THE THE NOTION OF PROFESSIONALISM.
SO EFFICIENCY, PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONALISM, BECAUSE I WANT TO CONVEY THERE AND AND AND SORT OF RECOGNIZE THE RESPECT THAT WE HAVE FOR ANALYTICAL, RATIONAL, ANALYTICAL THINKING.
MAYBE THAT GOES INTO MASTERPLANS AND, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THE THIRD VALUE IS VALUE OF SOCIAL EQUITY AND UNDERSTANDING OF TRYING TO TREAT ALL GROUPS, ALL GROUPS AS THEY AS THEY WISH.
IT COULD BE IT COULD BE CIVIL RIGHTS.
SO I'M I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THESE VALUES.
BUT FIRST, I WANT TO I WANT TO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A HYPOTHETICAL CASE STUDY.
AND EMBEDDED IN THE CASE ARE ARE THE VALUES.
SO LET'S SAY THAT THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS JUST COMPLETED A NEW OR AN UPDATE OF ITS PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
INCLUDED IN THE PLAN IS A RECREATION FACILITY A NEW RECREATION FACILITY THAT REALLY WILL BE KIND OF STATE OF THE ART.
AND IT'S IT'S A POPULAR, POPULAR PIECE IN THE MASTER PLAN.
BUT, OF COURSE, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIND A WAY TO FUND IT.
AND WHAT THEY'VE DECIDED IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO FUND IT WITH GOING TO A PUBLIC VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS SO THAT THEY CAN PAY FOR THE PAY FOR THE FACILITY.
THE COUNCIL IS ON BOARD WITH THIS.
AND AND THEY WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE WITH THE PUBLIC VOTE.
BUT APPARENTLY IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH THE THE WORDING OF A PREVIOUS BOND ISSUE, WHICH WAS EXPLICIT ABOUT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE MONEY WOULD BE USED FOR, BUT ALSO HAD
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THAT SORT OF DEFAULT CLAUSE OR OTHER EXPENDITURES AS NEEDED OR HOWEVER THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT THAT CATCHALL THAT GOES THAT GOES WITH THE WITH THE BOND ISSUE.SO PRETTY STANDARD PRETTY STANDARD PROCEDURE HERE, EXCEPT WHAT HAPPENS IS A GROUP OF CITIZENS COME TO THE COUNCIL. RECALLING THAT IN THE PAST THERE HAS BEEN A BOND ISSUE OR TWO.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT WHERE THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE OF THE FUND IT WAS IT WAS OF THE MONEY WAS EXPENDED FOR WHAT WAS WHAT IT SAID.
BUT THEN THAT CLAUSE AND OTHER EXPENDITURES AS NEEDED WAS ALSO INVOKED AND THAT WAS INVOKED FOR EXPENDITURES THAT WERE NOT RELATED TO THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE BOND ISSUES.
AND, AND AND PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY WERE TAKEN THEY WERE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SO THE THE WORD IS THAT WHAT LOOKED LIKE A PRETTY POPULAR THIS BOND ISSUE WAS GOING TO BE PASSED PRETTY PRETTY EASILY NOW BECOMES CONTENTIOUS.
AND THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO PASS.
SO ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYS AT A MEETING, I'VE GOT AN IDEA, WHAT IF WE ARE VERY EXPLICIT ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE BOND ISSUE AND WE ALSO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CAPITAL COSTS AND OPERATING COSTS.
AND THE OPERATING EXPENSES WILL BE PAID FOR BY USER FEES.
SO THEY GO TO THE COUNCIL, ADOPTS THE PLEDGE, AND THE VOTE IS PASSED, BUT IT'S PASSED VERY NARROWLY. AND THE PLEDGE IT'S ATTRIBUTED THE PASSAGE OF THE BOND ISSUE IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE PLEDGE THAT THE COUNCIL TAKES.
NOW, THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT ORIGINALLY THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED STAFF FOR A SCHEDULE OF USER FEES, AND IT SEEMED PRETTY REASONABLE THAT THEY COULD THEY COULD DO THAT.
THAT MEANS THE USER FEE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED UPWARD.
SO IT'S COUNCIL STAFF FOR NEW USER FEE AND USER FEE IS INCREASE FROM WHAT IT WAS AND AND NOT JUST BY A TRIVIAL AMOUNT, BUT WHAT'S THE COUNCIL GOING TO DO? I MEAN, THEY MADE THIS PLEDGE AND SO THEY KIND OF STUCK WITH WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WHAT THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRUE TO TRUE, TRUE TO THEIR WORD.
BUT THEY DECIDE IN IN, IN IN ORDER TO PROMOTE THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY WILL ADOPT THE USER FEE SCHEDULE, AT LEAST THE INITIAL USER FEE SCHEDULE AT A AT ONE OF THEIR PUBLIC BUSINESS BUSINESS MEETINGS.
SO COMES ON TO THE AGENDA AND THEY'RE READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE UPGRADED USER FEES.
BUT THEN THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE AUDIENCE ARE 20 PASTORS FROM LOCAL CHURCHES.
ONE BY ONE, THEY GET UP AND THEY TELL THE COUNCIL, IF YOU ADOPT THIS NEW USER FEE SCHEDULE, YOU ARE GOING TO SYSTEMATICALLY DEPRIVE A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE UNDERPRIVILEGED IN THIS COMMUNITY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS FACILITY.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE UP TO YOUR PLEDGE OR ARE YOU GOING TO RESPOND TO THE EQUITY CONCERNS THAT'S BEEN RAISED? WELL, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
NOW, WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PLAY WITH THE DIFFERENT VALUES THAT ARE AT STAKE HERE, TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO SATISFY BOTH THE PLEDGE, BUT ALSO TO ACCOMMODATE THE EQUITY CONCERN.
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SO LET'S LOOK AT THE VALUES NOW.IN LIGHT OF THE CASE, THE REPRESENTATION VALUE IS REFLECTED IN THE PLEDGE ITSELF, BUT IT'S ALSO REFLECTED IN THE IDEA THAT THE PASTORS ARE REPRESENTING A GROUP OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE AS WELL.
SO WHAT WE SEE IN THE VALUE OF REPRESENTATION IS THAT WITHIN THE VALUE ITSELF THERE CAN BE CONFLICT.
OK THE. SECOND VALUE IS THE VALUE OF EFFICIENCY.
THE THIRD VALUE IS THE VALUE OF EQUITY, AND WE SEE THAT EXPRESSED IN IN THE PAST.
THERE'S ARGUMENT. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT ABOUT THE PASTOR'S ARGUMENT IS WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ARE NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT AN EQUITY CONCERN, BUT THEY ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL, AREN'T YOU REPRESENTATIVES OF THE TOTAL COMMUNITY? SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE BUILT AN ARGUMENT AROUND BOTH REPRESENTATION AND EQUITY.
AND THEN THE FOURTH THE FOURTH PIECE IS THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.
AND THAT, LIKE I SAID, PROPERTY RIGHTS MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN THE CASE CONTRACTS AS WELL.
BUT BUT RIGHTS ARE SO FUNDAMENTAL IN OUR SOCIETY AND SO POWERFUL THAT WE INVENT THEM.
AND SO IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT ONE OR MORE OF THE PASTORS SAY, DON'T, DON'T OUR CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO ATTEND AND UTILIZE THIS RECREATION FACILITY SINCE IT'S PAID FOR BY ITS TAXES? OKAY. WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU GOING TO DO? ALL RIGHT. HERE'S SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE VALUES.
AND LET ME GO TO MY NOTES TO MAKE SURE I GET THEM.
YOU CANNOT HAVE ALL THE VALUES OPTIMALLY.
IT DOES NOT IT IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.
AND LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAJORITY RULE? I KNOW YOU'RE RELUCTANT TO TELL ME THAT YOU BELIEVE IN MAJORITY RULE, BUT I KNOW YOU DO BECAUSE YOU MAKE SO MANY DECISIONS BY MAJORITY RULE.
ALL RIGHT. MAJORITY RULE REPRESENTATION.
NOW, DO YOU BELIEVE IN INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS? YEAH. YOU BELIEVE IN INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS? OKAY. NOW, WHO ARE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS PROTECTING YOU FROM? YEAH, MAJORITIES.
SO WHAT'S THE BALANCE? WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE? IS THERE A CORRECT ANSWER FOR THE BALANCE BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND MAJORITY RULE? WELL, IF THERE WERE, WE WOULDN'T NEED LEGISLATIVE PARTIES AND RULE MAKING AGENCIES AND LED TO END AND COURTS TO ADJUDICATE THE VARIOUS LAWS THAT ARE PASSED.
SECOND, YOU CANNOT IGNORE ANY VALUE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND NOT EXPECT TROUBLE. NOW, THIS IS PARTICULARLY EVIDENT AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO THE VALUE OF EFFICIENCY, BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE FOR THE OTHER VALUES, OTHER VALUES AS WELL.
A THIRD EFFICIENCY MAY BE ESPECIALLY LIKE FOR STAFF EFFICIENCY.
ANALYTICAL THINKING MAY BE YOUR FAVORITE VALUE, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLITICS AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY BUILDING, YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND POLITICS, REMEMBER, EFFICIENCY IS ONE OF FOUR OF FOUR OF OUR LEGITIMATE VALUES.
IF COMMUNITY BUILDING IS THE GOAL, NEGOTIATION AND COMPROMISE IS THE CHARACTER OF POLITICS, US AND THEM HAS NO PLACE IN COMMUNITY BUILDING.
AND AND LET ME IT STRUCK ME I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AND IT STRUCK ME THAT AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND AT THE STATE LEVEL, YOU DO NOT SEE NATIONAL REPS OR OR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TALKING ABOUT THE STATE OR THE NATION AS A COMMUNITY.
THAT TERM IS ONLY USED AT THE LOCAL AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT LOCAL POLITICIANS TAKE THEIR MODEL OF POLITICS FROM NATIONAL OR STATE PARTIZAN LEVELS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OFF BASE.
THAT IS NOT WHAT COMMUNITY BUILDING COMMUNITY BUILDING IS ABOUT.
SO AT ITS CORE, POLITICS IS ABOUT THESE FOUR VALUES.
AND LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE ABOUT THE VALUES IS WHEN YOU ARE GIVEN ALTERNATIVES OR EITHER
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WE CAN DO A OR WE CAN DO B, AND IT INVOLVES CONTROVERSY.IT'S VERY COMMON FOR YOU TO GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL PART OF THE ALTERNATIVES THEMSELVES.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT POLITICS IS ABOUT.
POLITICS IS ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE CHOICES THAT ARE BEING MADE.
AND WHAT A COUNCIL DOES WHEN IT VOTES ON A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ALTERNATIVES IS TO SAY THIS CONSEQUENCE, THESE CONSEQUENCES ARE MORE IN LINE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND WHERE WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE THAN THIS SET OF CONSEQUENCES.
OKAY. SO LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE VALUES AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.
OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDES? OH, HE'S DOING IT. SORRY. YEAH.
THANK YOU. SO WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE CHAT HERE ABOUT VALUES.
I WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY GET EXPRESSED EITHER IN.
SPLITS THE QUESTION IN THAT METRIC.
YEAH, I THINK THAT THERE IS A TYPE OF PERSON THAT WOULD WANT THAT THAT WANTS TO LIVE IN THIS.
AND I SUSPECT THAT THIS TYPE OF PERSON IS LOOKING FOR A LOCATION THAT FEELS VERY SECURE AND ITS SAFETY OF FINANCES.
THEY ARE VOTING FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY FEEL THAT THINK LIKE THEM AND THEY'RE VERY VERBAL.
THEY'RE VERY PARTICULAR GROUPS.
THEY HAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR THING THAT THEY WANT TO SEE HAPPEN.
THE REP ASSOCIATION, THIS IS A VERY PARTICIPATORY ENVIRONMENT AND WE HAVE A GREAT CITY CENTER.
THE EVERYTHING HAPPENS ON THE SQUARE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO IT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PARTICIPATION HERE IN THIS TOWN AND WE'RE STILL SMALL ENOUGH TO HEAR THEM.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT BENEATH US.
THEY'RE WITH US, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SECURITY AND HANDLING DECISIONS REASONABLY PROFESSIONALLY AND SO ON.
AND SO SO HERE WE HAVE THAT VALUE THAT IS ALSO BEING REFLECTED.
AND OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T MOVE FAST ENOUGH.
AND OF COURSE WE'RE ALL A PART OF THE WHOLE NIMBY, NOT IN OUR BACKYARD THING GOING ON, INCLUDING ME.
THAT'S HOW I PROBABLY ENDED UP HERE.
I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY EFFICIENT CITY.
I'M VERY PROUD OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THIS CITY.
THE PROFESSIONALISM OF THE STAFF OF THE CITY IS TO BE COMMENDED AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT PART.
OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE WHAT ABOUT THE VALUE OF EQUITY? WHAT'S THAT? COULD YOU RESTATE THE QUESTION AGAIN? KNOW IS HOW ARE THE VALUES REFLECTED IN YOUR COMMUNITY? SO WHERE DO YOU SEE THE VALUE OF EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION BEING EXPRESSED IN YOUR COMMUNITY? YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. WE DON'T DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OF IT.
IT'S EXPRESSED BY A CERTAIN CLASS IN THE CITY, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T FEEL IT.
AND AS SOME PERSONAL EQUITY IS ONE OF MY MOST IMPORTANT VALUES, EVERYBODY DON'T NEED THE SAME THING.
I'VE GOT SHOES. I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
I'LL HAVE A SHIRT. I NEED A SHIRT.
SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT IS NOT FELT EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
KC AND THIS IS, I PRESUME, ONE OF THE REASONS YOU WERE ELECTED THAT I KNOW I DIDN'T RUN ON EQUITY.
YOU DIDN'T? I DID NOT RUN ON EQUITY.
SO HAVE YOU CONFUSED PEOPLE? NO. EQUITY IS AN IMPORTANT PERSONAL VALUE, BUT I JUST RAN A CITYWIDE ELECTION IN A CITY THAT IS VERY WHITE.
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YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN RUNNING ON EQUITY.ALL RIGHT. AT LEAST I DON'T THINK OTHER PEOPLE.
HOW IS THE VALUE OF DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION? IT CAN BE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT IT IS ENDORSED.
YOU KNOW, BUT BUT SEE, THE VALUE IS PLAYING ITSELF OUT IN THIS COMMUNITY IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
YES. I THINK I SEE THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN MAGGIE DOES.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO USE THE WORD MINORITY, AND I MEAN IT DIFFERENTLY THAN I THINK.
I MEAN, ANY GROUP THAT FINDS THEMSELVES A MINORITY THAT COULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE WHOLE CITY WANTS TO BUILD A THING RIGHT HERE, BUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T WANT THE THING BUILT THERE. AND THEY HAVE GOOD REASONS WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD THERE.
IT COULD BE AN ETHNIC MINORITY, IT COULD BE LGBTQI FOLKS, IT COULD BE ANYTHING.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE VERY EMPOWERED MINORITIES.
THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL THAT THE THING DOESN'T NEED, THE ZONING CASE DOES NEED TO GO THROUGH OR SOMETHING LIKE IT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THAT THE GROUP IS GOING TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL THAT THEIR WAY OF SEEING THINGS IS IS THE WAY THAT IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ENDORSED.
BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT EMPOWERS MINORITIES TO SPEAK.
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I HEAR FROM THEM REGULARLY, WHETHER IT'S A SMALL GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT ARE COALESCED AROUND AN ISSUE OR IT'S A LARGER GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT ARE COALESCED AROUND ETHNIC BACKGROUND OR SOCIAL ISSUES OR ANYTHING ELSE.
I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE VERY EMPOWERED TO SPEAK, WHETHER THEY'RE ENDORSED OR NOT.
LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
AND COUNCILMEMBER MCGEE, I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF AN EMPOWERED MINORITY? AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION.
YOU SAID WE HAVE MINORITIES IN THIS TOWN.
ARE THEY ARE EMPOWERED TO SPEAK FOR WHAT? TO WHOM? HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT ANYTHING? I THINK THAT'S THEY ARE PSEUDO POWER.
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? YEAH, LET'S GET THE MAYOR AND THEN.
NO, NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO ANSWER THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
SAME QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO GIVE HIM AN ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION.
OH, OKAY. GO ON. IT'S JANE PIPER ONE.
SHE'S IN THE MINORITY AND SHE'S WIELDED WAY MORE POWER THAN UNITED WAY, A LARGER ENTITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, MINORITIES HAVING POWER.
OKAY. SO WHEN YOU SEE THIS, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS DIFFERENT VIEWS ON NOT NOT NECESSARILY THE VALUE OF EQUITY IN MINORITY, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE VALUE OF THE EXTENT TO WHICH THAT IS BEING REPRESENTED.
SO WHAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER HERE? I KNOW IT'S HYPOTHETICAL, BUT I HAVE AN OPINION ON THE RIGHT ANSWER.
YEAH. YOU MEAN A RIGHT ANSWER? AS IN TWO PLUS TWO EQUALS FOUR.
YEAH. AND EVERY RATIONAL PERSON WOULD COME UP WITH THE SAME.
I'M BEING ARGUMENTATIVE. HE'S RIGHT.
I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER.
AND WHEN SOMEBODY MISUNDERSTANDS WHAT I'M SAYING, HE SAYS, NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING.
THAT'S WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION HERE.
AND WHEN SOMEBODY MISUNDERSTANDS WHAT HE'S SAYING, I SAY, NO, I STAND UP FOR HIM AND I SAY, NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT BRANDON MEANS AND WE'RE HAVING AN HONEST DIALOG HERE, AND HE'S NOT BEING OUT OF LINE, AND I'M NOT BEING OUT OF LINE.
WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC DIALOG AND WE'VE WEIGHED THE ISSUE.
AND WHATEVER THE RESULT IS THAT WE COME TO, PEOPLE SEE THE PROCESS, THEY TRUST IN US TO HAVE PROPERLY WEIGHED THOSE VALUES AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO A TWO PLUS TWO EQUALS FOUR.
WHEN YOU SEE GOVERNANCE, YOU SEE WHAT'S WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS FOR WHICH OF WHICH ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF TWO PLUS TWO EQUALS FOUR.
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ALL RIGHT. WE DO NOT VOTE ON THOSE PROBLEMS. I MEAN, WE MAY HAVE TO LEGALLY, BUT THERE'S NO POINT IN.I MEAN, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO ARGUE OVER WHETHER GRAVITY EXISTS? WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET IN A TREE AND JUMP OFF? AND IF YOU BELIEVED THAT YOU'LL FLOAT, I'LL BET AGAINST YOU.
IT'S A FACTUAL IT'S A FACTUAL MATTER.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT VOTING IS ABOUT.
VOTING IS ABOUT AFTER ALL THE FACTS ARE KNOWN.
AND WE CAN STILL DISAGREE OVER WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO.
IT'S JUST LIKE LIKE LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A FAT FAMILY GATHERING.
BIG FAMILY GATHERING, AND YOU DECIDED YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DO EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
AND IT'S TIME TO GO OUT TO EAT AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE TOGETHER FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS TIME.
WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO? SOMEBODY SAYS, I WANT TO GO TO 10 MINUTES.
SOMEBODY SAYS, NO, I WANT TO GO TO HISPANICS.
NOW. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU TAKE A BOAT.
PROBABLY GOING TO GO. SEE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO START TO DO POLITICS.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GO LET ME SEE A SHOW OF HANDS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO DO ITALIAN? LET ME SEE HOW MANY I WANT TO DO.
HOW ABOUT WE DO MEXICAN TONIGHT AND WE DO ITALIAN TOMORROW NIGHT? WHAT DID I JUST DO? I DID POLITICS.
WHEN ALL THE FACTS ARE KNOWN AND WE CAN STILL DISAGREE ON WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO, WE VOTE.
AND THEN, CHRIS, I ALSO WANT TO ADD IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE AS A CITY HAVE WE HAVE CORE VALUES AND WE HAVE LISTED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
AND WE SIT DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE AN INVESTOR, WE HAVE SOME INVESTORS THAT WANT TO PUT A REALLY NICE FACILITY HERE, AND IT'S ULTRA UPSCALE LUXURY THING GOING ON HERE.
AND SO WITH ME KNOWING THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY MORE OF A MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING TYPE, STATE SUPPORTED CITY FOR THE MOST PART, AND IT'S A COUNTY THAT JUST SEEMS KIND OF A.
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT? AND SO AS PART OF OUR CONVERSATION THAT I HAD, IT'S A REAL THING.
AND SO I SAID, WELL, THIS THIS SOUNDS VERY ELITIST.
YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING US.
I'M RETIRED. I'M ON A FIXED INCOME.
I CAN'T COME TO YOUR FACILITY AND ENJOY IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HERE.
YOU GOT TO ADD INCLUSION INTO WHATEVER WE'RE DOING AROUND HERE.
AND THAT MEANS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN.
WHAT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT IF THIS PROJECT IF THIS PROJECT PROMISES REVENUE THAT CAN BE DEVOTED TO AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT? AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LIKE THAT WHERE WE BECAUSE THIS SOUNDS VERY EXCLUSIVE, BUT WE WANT THINGS TO BE WE WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE ALL BELONG HERE.
IT COULD GO. IT COULD BE ALONG ALL RIGHT.
BUT IT'S GOT TO HAVE A WAY TO ALLOW US TO FEEL LIKE WE ALL BELONG.
OKAY, SO NOW I'M GOING TO PRETEND.
OKAY, DID YOU JUST HEAR WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD SAID? COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD JUST SAID SHE'S AGAINST THE HOMELESS.
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SHE'S AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING.COUNCIL MEMBER HER WHO STANDS UP AS THE EPITOME OF EQUITY, AS THE EPITOME OF REPRESENTATION, AS THE EPITOME OF THE VALUES OF THIS WONDERFUL PLACE.
HOW ON EARTH CAN SHE DENY THE ZONING NECESSARY FOR THIS NEW PROJECT WHEN THE REVENUE WILL GIVE US THE NATIVE NATURE THE MONEY TO DO SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THAT IS IN OUR MASTER PLAN.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING OF? WE ALL.
NO, THAT'S JUST THAT JUST THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF WHAT WE HAVE TO FACE NOW.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES IT'S RELATABLE.
YEAH, OF COURSE. YEAH, I HOPE IT IS.
I HOPE IT IS. SEE, AND THAT'S WHY CIVIL DISCOURSE BECOMES SO IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE DELIBERATION, WE USE THE TERM DELIBERATION.
DELIBERATION HAS A VERY SPECIFIC MEANING.
SEE DELIBERATION WHEN YOU DELIBERATE.
YOU ARE WILLING TO CONFRONT THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR VIEWS.
SEE, WHEN WE SAY A COURT DELIBERATES, IT'S NOT JUST WE'RE GOING TO VOTE NO.
WHAT ABOUT AND WHAT ABOUT? IT'S. SO THIS IS WHY IT'S SO.
THE DIALOG ON THE COUNCIL BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE YOUR PRONOUNCE YOU, IF YOU ADVOCATE FOR THIS OR THAT OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE OTHER PARTY WHO SAYS, IF WE DO THAT, THIS WILL OCCUR.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE ELECTED TO DO.
SO YOU REALLY ARE ELECTED TO DECIDE WHICH WHICH OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE CHOICES.
ONE THING YOU SAID WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
THE BEFORE YOU START IS THIS BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY A CONVERSATION THAT WOULD BE HAD IS YOU SAID WHEN ALL THE FACTS ARE KNOWN AND SEE, I THINK THAT'S THE CRITICAL PART. AND A LOT OF DECISION MAKING IS, NUMBER ONE, HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN THE FACTS ARE KNOWN? AND IT'S ONE THING TO DISAGREE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO BASED ON THE FACTS.
IT'S ANOTHER THING TO DISAGREE ON THE FACTS THEMSELVES.
SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I WANT TO GO I JUST WANT TO DO SORT OF A REAL TIME JUST DISCUSSION WITH YOU, THE COUNCIL MEMBER, BYRD, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE AS YOU WERE TALKING, I BEGAN TO THINK ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT AM I REALLY HEARING YOU SAY? SO I'M GOING TO SORT OF TELL YOU WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY.
JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, JUST SO THAT WE CAN.
BECAUSE WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY WAS THAT IF A PROJECT COMES THAT IS DEEMED TO BE EITHER UNAFFORDABLE OR UNATTAINABLE BY EVERY BODY IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT SOMEHOW THAT'S NOT DEEMED THAT'S NOT MOST PEOPLE.
MOST PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT.
SO MY MIND IMMEDIATELY WENT TO WAS OK.
WHAT DOES THAT WHAT ARE YOU REALLY SAYING? DOES THAT MEAN IF YOU SOMEBODY IF YOU BUILD A HOTEL? I ONLY TAKE THAT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
IF WE BUILD A RECREATIONAL FACILITY, HOW DO WE PRICE IT TO WHERE? AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND MORE OF WHAT YOU SORT OF MEAN WITH SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU REALLY SAYING? SO THAT I'M NOT MAKING UP MY OWN ASSUMPTIONS.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE DELIBERATION, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES I KNOW I CAN SAY THINGS THAT MAY BE MISINTERPRETED BECAUSE NOBODY'S ASKING ME, HEY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
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WHAT ARE YOU REALLY SAYING ABOUT THAT? OKAY. NOW, AN IMPORTANT PIECE THERE, I WOULD THINK IS WHEN YOU SAY THAT TO COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD, YOU WANT DO YOU YOU WANT TO INTERPRET IT AS YOU NEED.AND I NEED INFORMATION TO YOU.
YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. NOT AN ACCUSED.
NO, NO, NO. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS.
THIS IS REALLY, REALLY I MEAN, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'LL TALK IN A MINUTE ABOUT THE ISSUES OF RESPECT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT OF OF EACH OTHER, YOUR LIFE IS VISIBLE AND OURS IS MISERABLE.
SO WE'LL TALK. THIS IS THE ROOT OF IT.
I'M NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL CASES.
YOU MAY DO THAT WHEN I'M GONE.
LUCKY YOU DIDN'T LEAVE IT TO ME, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT IN GENERAL.
10 MINUTES, 15 MINUTES OR SO, AND WE'LL COME BACK AND 345, IT'LL BE IN THE BREAK AT 345.
BEFORE WE MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT MINDSET.
ANY COMMENTS OR REACTIONS? I WANT TO SAY THAT WE JUST.
JUST BECAUSE I'M AT THE END OF THE LINE HERE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO HAVE THIS COMMUNITY, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT THIS IS A DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE, A DESIRE TO ENGAGE.
SOMETIMES IT'S NOT AT THE LEVELS WE'D LIKE.
BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO A LOT OF THINGS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE FACT THAT YOU DO SEE ENERGY POLICIES IN OUR COUNTRY.
YOU SEE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
THEY'RE NOT JUST ACADEMIC VALUES.
I THINK THOSE GOT IN THERE BECAUSE WHETHER IT WAS A LARGE POPULATION OR A SMALL POPULATION, THEY GOT A HOLD COUNCIL, THEY GOT A WHOLE STAFF AND AND THEY SAID THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO DO THESE THINGS.
SO I THINK THAT'S THAT REPRESENTATIONAL ASPECT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
THAT INCLUDE PARTICIPATION THAT YOU ADDED WAS IS ACTUALLY FAIRLY HIGH IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M SORRY I MISSED THE QUESTION.
ANY THOUGHTS OR REACTIONS TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR? OH, I HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I WAS GOING TO CATCH YOU AFTERWARDS.
I DIDN'T WANT TO BOG DOWN THE GROUP, BUT GO AHEAD.
OKAY. SO YOU TOUCHED ON SO YOU SAID, LISTEN, WITH RESPECT TO DELIBERATIONS, BUT I WANTED TO GET YOUR WORKING DEFINITION OF LISTENING.
RIGHT. I IF I LET YOU FINISH YOUR STATEMENT AND I HEAR WORDS.
THAT'S NOT I MEAN, LIKE, HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY IN YOUR ESTIMATION OR HOW.
WHAT'S YOUR TAKE AWAY? SO I KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
SO THAT I CAN BE A BETTER LISTENER.
WHAT WHAT ARE THE COMPONENTS OF THAT? AND THEN TWO, YOU TALK ABOUT THERE'S AN INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE GAP.
AND SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU NAVIGATE THAT.
RIGHT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE IF ALL THE FACTS ARE OUT THERE.
AND ALL ARE EQUITABLE, BUT THERE'S A KNOWLEDGE GAP.
AND SO WHEN I'M SAYING, HEY, LET'S AVOID THIS AGAIN, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME IT COMES UP.
YEAH. I THINK THE WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO ME IS THE DEGREE OF RESPECT THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME.
AND IF YOU RESPECT ME, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT YOU'RE.
YOU'RE HEARING. WELL. YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
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WELL, THE QUESTION THEN, AND I'M GOING TO GET TO THIS AND LET ME CAN I QUALIFY THAT THIS ALL? AND I'M JUST IF THERE'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, YOU MIGHT AS WELL CATCH THIS ALL CIRCLES AROUND THIS CIRCLES AROUND TWO YEARS AGO.THERE'S A PIVOTAL ELECTION TWO YEARS AGO THAT SHOULD HAVE WENT AWAY IN SOME.
HIS MIND WON A DIFFERENT WAY IN OTHER PEOPLE'S MINDS.
AND WHY? RIGHT. IT'S HOW YOU INTERPRET THAT.
AND THE RESULT CAME OUT, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE THEY WERE TERRIBLE CANDIDATES ON THE OTHER SIDE.
ANOTHER PERSON WOULD SAY NO BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY PIVOTED IN THEIR THEIR DESIRES, ETC.
CHANGED. AND SO WE DON'T NEVER HAVE TO RECONCILE THAT, NOR WILL WE EVER.
THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DO TODAY.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT FACTS ARE THE ELECTION.
THE RESULTS ARE SOLIDIFIED AND THEY ARE TRUE.
THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THAT ARE IN MY MIND AND VERY MUCH DISPUTE.
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THOSE RIGHT.
OR JUST THAT THAT PLAYS INTO THAT RESPECT AND THAT LISTENING AND THAT, HEY, I'M NOT GOING ALONG WITH THESE NEW SHINY THINGS, ERGO, I'M NOT LISTENING.
WELL, THERE'S SO MANY, SO MANY, SO MANY THINGS THERE.
SORRY. THE QUESTION IS IT RELATED TO ARE YOU SAYING YOU FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT RESPECTING EACH OTHER? OH, THAT'S NOT A QUESTION.
CERTAINLY, WE DON'T EXPECT TO RESPECT EACH OTHER.
I JUST I THOUGHT I SAID THAT CLEARLY, BUT IF I DIDN'T.
YEAH, NO, WE DON'T RESPECT EACH OTHER, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESPECT EACH OTHER.
SO I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY, IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT THIS WORKSHOP TODAY AS KIND OF A FOUNDATION, AND I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A SPONGE TODAY TO LISTEN TO WHAT JOHN HAS TO SAY, THIS CONCEPT OF VALUES AND KNOW RIGHT ANSWERS AND AND THE ROLES THAT YOU ALL PLAY IN THE IMPORTANCE OF NOT PLAYING WITH LOOSE POLITICS, BECAUSE COMMUNITY BUILDING IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. WE CAN BUILD ON THIS TOMORROW, AND I REALLY WANT HIM TO GET THROUGH THIS, THIS LAST LITTLE PIECE OF HIS WORKSHOP AND THEN WE'LL. DID YOU SAY TED THE ELEPHANT? YES. SO THE BEAR.
YEAH. STEP IN THE SEATS IN THE ROOM.
ALL RIGHT. AND I CAN HARDLY WAIT.
I THINK I'M IN A SUMO WRESTLING COSTUME.
WHAT IS DONE HERE IS TRY TO CREATE TRY TO CREATE A WAY OF THINKING ABOUT POLITICS AND ADMINISTRATION AS KIND OF MINDSET, A WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS RATHER THAN THE WAY YOU BEHAVE.
AND THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE ELECTED.
LOOKING OVER HERE, ADMINISTRATIVE LOOKING OVER HERE.
ALTHOUGH AND I THINK I THINK JULIE'S EXPERIENCE WILL WILL WILL VERIFY THIS THAT.
THAT SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS THINK LIKE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIALS.
AND THAT'S WHAT HELPED THEM BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR JOBS.
OKAY, SO THESE ARE CONSTELLATIONS.
I CALL THEM CONSTELLATIONS OF LOGIC AND LET'S GO.
I DRAW THESE DISTINCTIONS SHARPLY JUST SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN GET, GET, GET SOME ILLUSTRATIONS, ILLUSTRATIONS HERE.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT LET ME GO THROUGH LET ME GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS.
SO LET ME START ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE.
SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, THE ACTIVITY IS PROBLEM SOLVING.
SO YOU IF YOU YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THIS MORNING WHEN WE WERE WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THE NUMBER OF STAFF PEOPLE SAID, WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS YOUR EXPECTATIONS, YOUR PRIORITIES.
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WHY? BECAUSE WITHOUT THOSE PRIORITIES, WITHOUT THOSE EXPECTATIONS, WITHOUT THOSE PROBLEMS TO BE SOLVED, WE AS A STAFF ARE SO.SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WOULD NOT AT ALL BE UNUSUAL FOR STAFF FOR A COUNCIL MEETING, FOR STAFF MEMBER TO COME IN TO THE MANAGER'S OFFICE AND SAY, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THIS? THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S BECAUSE WE AS ADMINISTRATORS CAN'T DO OUR WORK UNLESS WE KNOW WHAT YOU WANT.
HOWEVER, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS.
BUT IF YOU ARE INVOLVED IN IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE AND YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE VALUE CONFLICTS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH, YOU WOULD KNOW WHY IT'S SO HARD TO GIVE YOU THE DIRECTION THAT THAT THAT YOU SAY YOU NEED.
ALL RIGHT. SO PROBLEM SOLVING, THAT'S TO BE CONTRASTED WITH THE WORLD OF POLITICS, THE WORLD OF POLITICS, AS I SAID BEFORE, THE ALLOCATION OF VALUES.
YOU ARE DECIDING IN EFFECT, YOU ARE DECIDING THE VALUE OF EQUITY IN THIS CASE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE VALUE OF EFFICIENCY, OR WE HAVE TO COMPROMISE ON EFFICIENCY AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS HERE OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S PART OF THE POLITICAL ACTIVITY.
BUT. THERE IS A PART OF POLITICS THAT CAN ONLY BE UNDERSTOOD AS A GAME.
NOW, I DON'T MEAN IT IN TERMS OF FUN AND GAMES, BUT I MEAN, IT'S AN ACTIVITY THAT HAS ITS OWN RULES.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE RULES ARE NOT WRITTEN DOWN.
BUT IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RULES, YOU FRUSTRATE NOT ONLY THE STAFF, BUT YOU FRUSTRATE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL. SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE RULES? THESE ARE MY RULES, ACTUALLY.
THE FIRST IS SOMETHING THAT JIM OLIVER SAYS.
JIM OLIVER WAS A MANAGER IN NORFOLK AND VERY RESPECTED MANAGER.
AND I WAS TALKING TO HIM ONE TIME AND HE SAID, JOHN, WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE NUMBER ONE THEIR NUMBER ONE CONSTITUENT IS THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IF YOU WANT TO GET ANYTHING DONE.
OKAY. SO THAT ALWAYS IS ALWAYS STUCK WITH ME.
NOBODY'S SAYING THEY'RE MY CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW.
SO WHEN DO I HOW DO I RESPOND? WHEN DO I LEAD? WHEN DO I? AND SO ON.
ANOTHER PIECE I NOTE, THE RULE IS YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SPEAK ON EVERY ISSUE BECAUSE SOME OF YOU WILL FEEL COMPELLED TO DO THAT.
BUT I GUARANTEE YOU IT GETS REALLY BORING.
RIGHT. DON'T KEEP BRINGING UP THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER, REMEMBERING THAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE YOUR MOST IMPORTANT CONSTITUENTS.
OKAY. YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO JUST SATISFY YOURSELF.
NOW, PART OF THE CHALLENGE HERE IS THAT, OH, AND HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.
RESPECT IS THE KEY TO YOUR INFLUENCE.
AND RESPECT DEPENDS UPON YOU USING YOUR TALENTS IN WAYS THAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS VALUE.
WHAT DID I SAY? RESPECT IS THE KEY TO YOUR INFLUENCE AND RESPECT.
RESPECT DEPENDS UPON YOU USE YOUR TALENTS IN WAYS THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS VALUE.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HERE'S THE THING. YOU GUYS FORGET AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU GUYS HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION RIGHT NOW.
NOW, DO YOU DO YOU HAVE A DO YOU HAVE A LIKE A FORMAL PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL LIKE YOU DO IN YOUR JOB?
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YOUR JOB NOW IS ELECTIONS.LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE? WE HAVE A HIERARCHY THAT CAN DISCIPLINE MEMBERS IN ELECTIONS, BUT THE ELECTION IS AGAINST THE ELECTION.
THINK ABOUT THE OTHER WORK THAT YOU DO BESIDES COUNCIL WORK.
ALL RIGHT. IS THERE NO JOB DESCRIPTION? IS THERE NO SUPERVISOR? ARE THERE NO PERFORMANCE APPRAISALS? YOU AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ARE IN NEW TERRITORY.
AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT UNLESS YOU ARE VERY UNUSUAL, WHAT YOU WILL DO IN ORDER TO BE EFFECTIVE, WHAT YOU WILL DO IS YOU WILL TAKE THE TALENTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT HAVE SERVED YOU WELL IN YOUR OTHER WORLD, WORKING WORLD, AND YOU WILL APPLY THEM TO YOUR WORK AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
OH, YOU'RE ON THE JOB. THE POINT IS, SEE, IT'S LIKE THIS.
IF YOU ARE A DETAILED, ANALYTICAL KIND OF THINKER AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR WORK IS ABOUT AND YOUR OTHER WORK IS ABOUT.
DO YOU THINK THAT PERSON IS GOING TO GIVE UP THEIR ANALYTICAL, DETAIL ORIENTED PERSPECTIVE WHEN THEY WORK ON THE COUNCIL? PROBABLY NOT.
BUT WHAT THAT PERSON NEEDS TO REALIZE IS RESPECT DEPENDS UPON YOU UTILIZING YOUR TALENTS IN WAYS THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS VALUE.
EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO SPEAK.
NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO BE LISTENED TO.
LET'S GO NOW TO THE PLAYERS, THE PLAYERS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE.
IS THIS PROBLEM SOLVING, LIKE EXPERTS WHO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A TRUSTEE MENTALITY, MEANING LOOKING AT THE GREATER GOOD? NOW YOU YOU HAVE HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE ELECTED BY DISTRICTS? MORE FOR OK.
LIKE, IF YOU'RE ELECTED BY DISTRICT, ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT YOUR DISTRICT OR ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE CITY AS A WHOLE? THEN WHY ARE YOU ELECTED BY DISTRICT SO THAT YOU HAVE SEPARATE, SEPARATE MINORITY GROUPS ARE REPRESENTED OR SMALLER GROUPS ARE REPRESENTED AND CAN INFLUENCE THE ELECTIONS.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S I'M SORRY, THAT'S A BIG PET PEEVE OF MINE.
I'M ONE OF THE SINGLE MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES THAT I HAVE, A CONSTITUENCY THAT I'M REPRESENTING, BUT I'M MAKING DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THE ENTIRE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY, AND I TRY TO KEEP BOTH OF THOSE IN MIND.
WE HAVE A FORMULA FOR WHEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A CONSTANT BALANCING ACT AND CONSTANT REAPPRAISAL.
SO IF YOU IF IF IF YOU WANTED ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE, THAT THAT WOULD BE THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEN YOU WOULD NOT GO BY DISTRICT.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SO YOU HAVE A COMPROMISE.
SO YOU HAVE FOUR DISTRICTS TO IT LARGE, RIGHT? IS IT YOU? SO THAT'S A COMPROMISE.
NOW, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOUR DISTRICTS REALLY ARE DISTINCT IN ONE WAY OR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
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AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I COULD I KNOW OR COULD COMMENT ON.AND WE ELECT WE ELECT FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE LARGE AND EVERY TWO YEARS THREE COUNCIL SEATS ARE UP FOR GRABS.
THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS GET A FOUR YEAR TERM AND THE THIRD PLACE PERSON GETS A TWO YEAR TERM.
IN ADDITION, BY TRADITION, THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS GET A ONE YEAR TERM AS MAYOR.
SO NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PROPOSING A FOUR YEAR DIRECTLY ELECTED MAYOR AND GOING TO DISTRICTS, SIX DISTRICTS.
THE CHALLENGE IS I CAN'T FIND THE DISTINCTIONS GEOGRAPHICALLY AMONG THE DISTRICTS. SEE.
AND THAT'S IT'S ONE THING JUST TO ELECT MY DISTRICT, BUT IT'S ANOTHER THING TO SAY THIS DISTRICT REPRESENTS THE WEST END HIGH DEVELOPMENT ZONES OF THIS DISTRICT.
WITHOUT THAT, IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING.
OC SO, SO YOU THIS WAS WHEN I WAS DONE SOME WORK, THIS WORK IN MANHATTAN BEACH IN CALIFORNIA AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN DOES WHETHER THE COUNCIL MEMBER ACTUALLY THE TRUSTEE WHEN YOU ACT AS THE REPRESENTATIVE AND ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYS IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER YOU LOOK TO THE RESIDENT AS A OWNER OF THE CITY, PART OWNER OR AS A CUSTOMER OF THE CITY.
IF YOU VIEW THE THE RESIDENT AS AN OWNER OF THE CITY, YOUR JOB IS TO BE A TRUSTEE.
MEANING TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY IS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT CITY.
ALL RIGHT. IF YOU VIEW THE RESIDENT AS A CUSTOMER, YOU ARE A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE.
AS A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE, YOU ARE MOTIVATED TO TRY TO SATISFY THE INTERESTS OF THE CUSTOMER.
IF YOU ARE A TRUSTEE, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE TO TELL THE OWNER AT TIMES THIS IS NOT IN YOUR INTEREST.
WHAT? I'M GOING TO DO THIS NOW.
WHAT'S THE CORRECT BALANCE BETWEEN WHEN YOU SHOULD BE ACTING AS A REPRESENTATIVE VERSUS A TRUSTEE? AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ELECTIONS.
SO YOU CAN ARTICULATE THOSE KINDS OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IF IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WHAT DO YOU KNOW VERSUS WHAT DO YOU HEAR? WHAT DO YOU KNOW IS ABOUT DATA, PLANS AND REPORTS? AS STAFF MEMBERS, I WANT YOUR MOTIVATION.
BUT YOUR PASSION AND YOUR MOTIVATION WILL NOT SUBSTITUTE FOR.
CAN YOU GENERATE DATA? CAN YOU ENACT PLANS, DATA, PLANS AND REPORTS? SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THAT WOULD YOU IF YOU ARE COMMITTED TO THE WORK.
NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT INTERESTED HERE.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT DATA, PLANS AND REPORTS.
NOW, IF YOU ARE THAT KIND OF PERSON ON THE COUNCIL WHO'S DATA ORIENTED.
YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME TIME OVER HERE, BUT REMEMBER ONE MORE TIME USE A COUNCIL MEMBER SPEND OVER THERE IN THE DATA, PLANS AND REPORTS.
WHO'S DOING THE POLITICS? WHAT DO I MEAN HERE? PASSION ACTIVATES THE PROCESS.
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IT ACTIVATES.THE DREAMS ARE WHAT REPRESENT THE VALUES.
THE VALUES ARE CAPTURED IN THE DREAMS. AND THE WAY YOU CONVEY THOSE ARE IN STORIES OR ANECDOTES.
NOW, INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THINGS, WE TALK MORE AND MORE ABOUT YOUR ABILITY TO CONVEY DATA IN WAYS THAT THE NON EXPERT WILL UNDERSTAND.
AND THAT'S AND THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A STORY THAT A STAFFER MIGHT CONVEY AND A STORY THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL MIGHT CONVEY.
AN ELECTED OFFICIAL STORY CAN BE THE PRODUCT OF ONE OBSERVATION.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOOD, BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT COULD HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO PUT A STOP SIGN AT BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH? NO, WE DON'T NEED A STOP SIGN.
I WAS DRIVING BY THE OTHER DAY AND THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC.
WE DIDN'T GET A STOP SIGN THERE.
NOW, IF STAFF SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T HAVE A STOP SIGN THERE.
AND THE REASON WHY WE DON'T NEED A STOP SIGN THERE IS WE DID THE ANALYTICAL WORK OF LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND THIS AND THAT AND SO ON. AND SO DATA PLANS AND REPORTS, PASSENGER STATUS.
WELL, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOUR PASSION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PASSIONATE YOURSELF.
BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS UNLEASH THE PASSION OF CONSTITUENTS AND THE WAY THAT JUST THINK ABOUT THIS.
WE HAD A WE HAVE A ROAD PROJECT THAT POTENTIALLY IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON A SIGNIFICANT NATURAL AREA DOG PARK.
AND PEOPLE LOVE THAT DOG PARK.
1500 PEOPLE SIGNED A PETITION QUESTIONING THE NEED FOR THAT ROAD.
1500 PEOPLE, ALL THE COUNCIL HAS TO SAY IS, WOW.
THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY.
AND THERE WAS NOTHING PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT ONE WHOSE PASSION JUST GOT UNLEASHED.
DOGS. THE DOGS AND THE DOG OWNERS.
YOU AUTHORIZED THE PASSION WITH.
WITH JUST A NORMAL, NORMAL KIND OF NORMAL KIND OF STORY.
AND THEN I HAD SOME OTHER OTHER STORIES TO.
OH, I THINK IN OTHER WORDS, I HAD BEEN IN OFFICE.
OH, THIS WAS BEFORE I WAS IN OFFICE.
AND I HAD MY ADVISOR IS A REAL POLITICALLY ASTUTE GUY.
AND HE SAID TO ME, WE WERE TALKING ONE TIME AND HE SAID, JOHN, AND THIS IS BEFORE I GOT ELECTED.
THEN I GO, DAN? I'M A FACULTY MEMBER.
I'M NO DUMMY. I'M NOBODY'S DUMMY, IS IT? NO, NO, YOU DON'T GET THAT.
HE SAID YOU ARE GOING TO TALK TO SO MANY PEOPLE ABOUT SO MANY THINGS THAT WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH, IT WOULD NOT BE UNUSUAL FOR THE SPIRIT OF THEIR WORDS TO COME OUT OF YOUR.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S SKIP TO THE CURRENCY.
I WANT TO GET TO THE CURRENCY.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE OVER HERE? THE CURRENCY IS POWER.
POWER IS REFLECTED IN WHETHER ANYBODY LISTENS TO YOU WHEN YOU TALK.
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IT'S AS SIMPLE TO ME.AND THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INDICATOR OF THE RESPECT AND VALUE THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE FOR YOU IS A SIMPLE QUESTION.
VICKY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? NOW SEE IN A GENUINE C IN A GENUINE YOU'RE HAVING A COUNCIL MEETING, YOU'RE DEBATING AND IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW.
BRENDAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT IN A LEGITIMATE KIND OF THAT IS A SIGN OF THAT'S A REAL SIGN OF RESPECT AND THAT HAPPENS SO INFREQUENTLY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? ALL RIGHT. THIS THIS BUSINESS HERE.
THEY'RE LIKE. IT'S LIKE A CEMENT.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE FORMALITIES OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL APPARATUS, MEANING YOU DON'T HAVE THE JOB DESCRIPTION, YOU DON'T HAVE THE BOSS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THE GLUE THAT TIES YOU TOGETHER POTENTIALLY IS LOYALTY, LOYALTY AND TRUST.
SO, AGAIN, HAVING TO TRUST FOR A MINUTE.
SO I WENT IN TO SEE THIS POLITICAL ADVISER THAT I HAVE.
AND NOW THIS IS LIKE THREE MONTHS AFTER I'M IN OFFICE, FIRST TIME.
AND I SAY, DAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WHEN WE WERE RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN, I CAMPAIGNED I WAS IN FAVOR OF I SAID I WAS IN FAVOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING KINDS OF TAX SUBSIDIES WHERE NEEDED.
AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THREE OR FOUR OF THOSE ISSUES COME BEFORE US.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD MORE INFORMATION FROM BOTH SIDES, WHETHER THE VALUE OF THIS OR THAT.
AND HE SAID AND I SAID, I'M GOING TO START VOTING AGAINST THESE THINGS.
YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID? YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I CAN'T DO THAT.
SEE, YOU'VE ONLY BEEN IN OFFICE FOR THREE MONTHS.
IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND NOW, WHY WOULD ANYBODY BELIEVE YOU THE NEXT TIME YOU SAY YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING? BLEW ME AWAY. ABSOLUTELY BLEW ME AWAY.
I MEAN, I NEVER EVEN I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S THIS WORLD.
THIS WORLD IS SO CAN BE SO EPHEMERAL BECAUSE THE RULES THE RULES THE RULES ARE NOT LAID OUT.
AND THAT'S WHY ISSUES OF RESPECT AND LOYALTY BECOME SO, SO IMPORTANT.
LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
ONE, WE HAD A COUNCIL MEETING.
I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OF THESE KINDS OF COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT IT WAS CONTENTIOUS.
SO WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE ONE OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND THE GUY SITTING NEXT TO ME SAYING, WELL, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
I DON'T LIKE THAT. SO I SAID, OKAY, FINE, BUT IS IT OKAY THEN? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? YOU KNOW, HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.
I WAS SO PISSED OFF, YOU COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
SO THE MEETING IS OVER AND I AM SO UPSET.
STOP, YOU KNOW, I'M WALKING OUT OF THE MEETING.
THOSE. JOHN, I KNOW WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME TONIGHT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY NO HARD FEELINGS.
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TAKE YOUR HAND OUT OF ME.YOU TAKE HIS HAND, YOU SHAKE HIS HAND, AND YOU GO HOME.
JOHN. THAT GUY WAS BIGGER THAN YOU TONIGHT.
YOU SEE HOW THOSE IN THE INFORMAL PIECE.
ALL RIGHT. THE LOYALTY BECOMES SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF BUILDING RESPECT.
I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
WE DID. WE HAD NOT YET HAD A A PUBLIC PUBLICLY OWNED GOLF COURSE.
SO THERE WAS A MOVEMENT TO GET A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE.
AND I WAS THE MAYOR AT THE TIME, SO I GOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOLF COURSE.
BUT. BUT THE RIBBON CUTTING OCCURRED AFTER MY TERM IN OFFICE.
SO THE MAYOR AT THE TIME I WAS STILL ON THE COUNCIL.
SO THE MAYOR AT THE TIME HE CUTS THE RIBBON, DOES IS TALKING THIS AND THAT AND SO ON.
AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID? HE TURNED TO ME AND HE SAID, I'D LIKE TO INVITE COMMISSIONER NALBANDIAN TO THE PODIUM BECAUSE HE WAS THE MAYOR WHEN THIS WHEN THIS ALL HAPPENED.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT DID FOR OUR RELATIONSHIP? TO THIS DAY, I HAVE RESPECT FOR MUTUAL MUTUAL RESPECT.
SEE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT REALLY AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE TOMORROW AND SO WE ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS, BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO RESPECT EACH OTHER.
IT'LL ENHANCE IT WILL ENHANCE, ENHANCE OUR WORK.
SO I'M GOING TO DRAW THIS TO A CLOSE HERE.
SO THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED HERE IS NOT ONLY AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE WAYS OF THINKING AS WELL AS THE WAY OF ACTING.
BUT WE NEED TO SEE THIS IS ANOTHER WAY.
THIS IS ANOTHER PIECE OF THE GAP.
SO WE'VE GOT A FEW MINUTES MORE AND I'M GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE SOME OF THE OTHER THE OTHER THINGS NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY AND ONE OF THEM IS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET INTO TOMORROW, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ON THIS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT IT IS.
THIS IS CALLED THE ELEMENTS IN A PSYCHOLOGICAL CONTRACT.
A PSYCHOLOGICAL CONTRACT HAS TO DO WITH EXPECTATIONS AND OBLIGATIONS OF TWO PARTIES.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TWO INDIVIDUAL, TWO TWO PARTIES.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PSYCHOLOGICAL CONTRACT AND A FORMAL LEGAL CONTRACT IS THAT THE TERMS OF THE PSYCHOLOGICAL CONTRACT CAN CHANGE OVER TIME WITHOUT THE PARTIES GOING TO IT.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE EXPECTATIONS THAT A SUPERVISOR WOULD HAVE OF A NEW EMPLOYEE.
THOSE EXPECTATIONS WILL CHANGE AS THE EMPLOYEE GAINS EXPERIENCE, BUT THOSE EXPECTATIONS MAY NOT BE ARTICULATED. SO THEY'RE THERE, BUT THEY'RE THERE.
SO THE NOTION OF THE PSYCHOLOGICAL CONTRACT CONSISTS OF AND I'LL PUT THIS NOW IN TERMS OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON STAFF, WHAT DO ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED FROM STAFF IN ORDER FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE EFFECTIVE? WHAT DOES THE STAFF NEED FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS IN ORDER FOR THE STAFF TO BE ELECTED? WHAT IS STAFF WILLING AND ABLE TO PROVIDE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE EFFECTIVE?
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AND WHAT ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS WILLING AND ABLE TO PROVIDE TO THE STAFF IN ORDER FOR THE STAFF? SO THIS IS A FRAMEWORK THAT CAN BE UTILIZED TO TALK, TO TRY TO GET ON THE SAME, TO TRY TO GET ON THE SAME GET ON THE SAME PAGE. AND AND THE REASON WHY THIS TEMPLATE IS IS USEFUL AS, AS I SAID, IS THAT EXPECTATIONS CAN CHANGE OVER TIME WITHOUT BEING ARTICULATED.AND SO SOME PEOPLE CAN BE OPERATING OFF OF YESTERDAY'S EXPECTATIONS.
ALL RIGHT. AND SO WITHIN THE TRUST, YOU CAN ELECT TO GO BACK.
OKAY. THIS IS THE LAST THIS IS THE LAST PIECE.
AND THEN JULIA'S GOT SOME THINGS RIGHT.
SO THESE ARE RHETORICAL QUESTIONS.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, WHERE DOES TRUST FIT IN YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE? AND THIS THIS IS RELEVANT TO STAFF AS WELL AS COUNCIL.
IF TRUST IS SO IMPORTANT, WHICH I ASSUME IT IS.
WHY DOES IT SEEM TO BE A CONTINUING ISSUE? IF TRUST IS A CONTINUING ISSUE, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF NOT TRUSTING? SEE, IF YOU DON'T TRUST SOMEBODY, THERE MUST BE SOME VALUE TO IT.
IT MUST BE FULFILLING SOME NEED THAT YOU HAVE.
SO THIS IS A CURIOUS KIND OF THING THAT LED ME TO WHAT ARE THE ELEMENTS OF A TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP.
SO THIS IS CALLED THE CYCLE OF DISTRUST, AND THIS COMES FROM AN ARTICLE THAT DALE ZAND WROTE IN 1972.
AND WHAT HE SAID WAS, THERE ARE THREE ELEMENTS IN A TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP.
THE FIRST IS THE WILLINGNESS TO SHARE INFORMATION, THE WILLINGNESS TO BE INFLUENCED, AND THE NEED OR LACK OF NEED TO IMPOSE CONTROL ON PERSON BEING THE PERSON YOU TRUST OR DISTRUST.
NOW, HERE'S THE WAY THIS WORKS.
THIS IS THIS IS A CYCLE OF DISTRUST.
AND I WANT YOU TO SEE THIS DYNAMIC HERE.
WE START WITH PERSON A EXPECTS PERSON B TO BE UNTRUSTWORTHY.
PERSON B EXPECTS PERSON A TO BE UNTRUSTWORTHY.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE.
IF PERSON A EXPECTS PERSON B TO BE UNTRUSTWORTHY, PERSON A WILL RESTRICT INFORMATION, WILL RESIST INFLUENCE FROM PERSON B AND WILL SEEK TO IMPOSE CONTROL ON PERSON B BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID. PERSON B CAN DO SOMETHING THAT WILL DAMAGE THIS IMAGE.
PERSON B GOES INTO THIS RELATIONSHIP EXPECTING PERSON AID TO BE UNTRUSTWORTHY.
PERSON B SO PERSON B SEES PERSON ACTING IN WAYS WHICH PERSON BE SEES AS UNTRUSTWORTHY.
SO WHAT IS PERSON B DO? PERSON B IS EXPECTATION OF A LACK OF TRUST IN A IS CONFIRMED.
SO NOW WHAT DOES PERSON B DO? RESTRICTS INFORMATION, RESISTS INFLUENCE, AND SEEKS TO IMPOSE CONTROL ON PERSON A PERSON SEES PERSON B'S BEHAVIOR IS UNTRUSTWORTHY AND PERSON A'S EXPECTATION OF A LACK OF TRUST IN PERSON B IS CONFIRMED, AND NOW THE CYCLE CONTINUES.
THE CLASSIC THE CLASSIC CASE IN MY MIND OF TRUST IS THE RELATIONSHIP
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THAT A FAMILY WILL HAVE WITH THE PERSON TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILD.THE VALUE YOU GET IS A DINNER OUT.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO THAT KID? BUT YOU PUT YOUR TRUST IN THE BABYSITTER BECAUSE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT DAMAGE OCCURRING IS MINIMAL.
WHEN YOU TRUST, YOU MAKE YOURSELF VULNERABLE.
AND THAT'S WHY TRUST IS IS POTENTIALLY A SCARCE COMMODITY.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRUST AND BUILD A TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHARE INFORMATION KNOWING POTENTIALLY THE OTHER PERSON COULD USE THAT INFORMATION FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT.
ALL RIGHT. AND WE JUST GO THROUGH.
STUDIES ON LEADERSHIP SHOW THAT THE LEADERS THAT ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE ARE. THOSE WITH MOTIVATIONS ARE SEEN BY OTHERS AS BENEFITING THE COMPANY AS A WHOLE AND THE INDIVIDUALS IN THAT COMPANY TO THE EXTENT THAT THE LEADERS ACTIONS ARE SEEN AS SELF-INTERESTED.
PEOPLE WILL PROTECT THEMSELVES TO THE EXTENT THAT THE LEADER IS SEEN AS ACCESSIBLE, IT DRAWS IT DRAWS PEOPLE TO THEM.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK I'M GOING TO GO BACK.
TO BRIDGING THE GAP SUMMARY BRIDGING THE GAPS ESSENTIAL.
THE ROLE OF THE TRANSLATOR BRIDGE BUILDER IS CRITICAL.
GOOD POLITICS IS ABOUT VALUES, NOT CORRECT ANSWERS.
STORIES MATTER BECAUSE THEY CONVEY VALUES.
DO NOT IGNORE ANY VALUE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU.
THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IS MESSY.
IT'S MESSY. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
OFTEN DEMONSTRATION OF WAYS OF THINKING, ALIGNING GOVERNING BODIES, STAFF EXPECTATIONS IS CRUCIAL.
AND REMEMBER THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE TRUSTEE AND THEN WE'LL FINISH WITH THIS IS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WALL IN KERRY, NORTH DAKOTA.
THE BRIDGE PROBLEMS BECOME OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THE RIGHT PEOPLE JOIN TOGETHER.
AND I WAS JUST I WAS REFLECTING BACK ON THE COMMENT THAT I THINK YOU MADE, MAYOR, THAT JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, AS A BASE, THERE IS NOT RESPECT AMONG THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. SURE.
YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO TRUST IF YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT.
AND SO I THINK THEY REALLY DO GO HAND IN HAND.
SO AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ROLE THAT ONLY THE SEVEN OF YOU PLAY FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
WHAT MESSAGES ARE YOU CONVEYING WHEN YOU DISTRUST ONE ANOTHER? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PARLAYS INTO DO YOU DISTRUST THE STAFF? DO YOU QUESTION THEM IN A WAY THAT MIGHT UNDERMINE THE PUBLIC'S PERCEPTION
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OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT? AND I THINK ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE FORM CERTAINLY COMES FROM THE REFORM MOVEMENT.BUT THE MODEL, UNLIKE THE OTHER POLITICAL MODELS IN OUR COUNTRY, THE MODEL IS KIND OF CORPORATE.
IT'S A BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND A CEO, CITY MANAGER.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AS A MODEL, WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE JOB OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS? ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE BRAND FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS.
THAT'S THE JOB OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE BRAND.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR ROLE IN THAT WAY, WHAT BRAND ARE YOU COMMUNICATING TO THE RESIDENTS? SO HOW DOES THAT KIND OF FIT IN WITH ALL OF THIS CONVERSATION AROUND TRUST AND RESPECT? I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME METAPHOR THERE, SO I WANT TO JUST DO MAYBE KIND OF A QUICK.
WE HAVE WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO HEAR A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU OR WHAT KIND OF KERNEL ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE FROM WHAT JOHN SAID TODAY BEFORE I DO A HARD GEAR SHIFT AND MOVE YOU TO MY PARTY AND EXERCISE FOR THE DAY.
SO REFLECTIONS ON THE WORKSHOP.
WHAT WAS WHAT WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HEARD THAT YOU WROTE DOWN THAT YOU WANT TO HANG ON TO? I ALWAYS LOVE INVOKE TO DETERMINE WHAT CONSEQUENCES WILL PREVAIL.
HOW ABOUT YOU? WHAT DID YOU HEAR? DON'T BE SHY.
YES, I AM APPRECIATIVE OF YOU AND YOUR WORDS AND YOUR LEARNING, YOUR TEACHING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO TAKE WITH ME IS.
CONTINUE TO BE MINDFUL THAT I REPRESENT THE ENTIRE CITY.
WHILE ALSO KEEPING IN MIND OF MY OWN DISTRICT, BECAUSE MY DISTRICT IS NOT LIKING IT AND I WANT TO BE CONTINUOUSLY MINDFUL OF THAT, WHICH I WILL BE, BUT I WANT MY MY PEERS TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WELL. SO WE HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER'S DISTRICT AND WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN WE ARE MAKING.
BECAUSE LITERALLY EVERYBODY'S DISTRICT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
SO THAT IS WHAT I AM GOING TO BE.
I WANT TO PROMISE MY PEERS THAT THAT IS THE WAY THAT I THINK THERE IS A STRATEGY FOR ME WHEN I VOTE.
I DO HAVE SOME PARTICULAR THINGS THAT I LOOK FOR IN YEAR FOUR.
I'M GETTING READY TO VOTE AND EVEN DELIBERATE, DELIBERATE A LISTEN TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
YOU ALL NOTICE I'M USUALLY THE LAST ONE TO SPEAK OR I HAVE A COMMENT WHENEVER WE'RE DELIBERATING, BUT THAT GIVES ME A CHANCE TO PUT MY MY MINDSET TOGETHER. WHICH DIRECTION AM I GOING TO GO? YOU KNOW, WITH EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS.
SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT I PROMISE YOU ALL, THAT I'M GOING TO BE OPEN MINDED AND CONTINUE TO BE OPEN MINDED AS WE MAKE OUR DELIBERATIONS.
SO I APPRECIATE AS WE DIALED INTO THE TRUST ISSUE PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND I THINK TRUST IS IS EARNED. BUT AND WE'RE GOING TO COME ROUND TO THOSE EXERCISES AND I'M SURE WE'LL DO BONDING AND TRUST BALLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED. BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S IT'S PERHAPS LESS ABOUT TRUST AND MORE ABOUT EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE BUZZWORDS.
BUT IF I IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BEHAVE, IF YOU KNOW, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU VALUE, THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON A PARTICULAR THING, THE NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU TALK ABOUT NEEDS VERSUS WILLINGNESS TO UNDERSTAND, THEN THAT'S THAT'S LESS, LESS ABOUT THE TRUST PER SAY THAN EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT.
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IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHERE OUR OUR SOFT LINES ARE AND WHERE OUR HARD LINES ARE IN TERMS OF EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT.AND I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU YOU FOLLOW THOSE AND YOU MAKE CLEAR WHAT YOU THINK THE EXPECTATIONS ARE AND WHERE THEY ARE, MALLEABLE, ADJUSTABLE OR NOT, IT MAKES IT IT MAKES IT EASIER TO TO BRIDGE PLACES WHERE SAY, FRANKLY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TRUST, BUT YOU YOU HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF BEHAVIOR.
AND I KNOW WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRUST AND EXPECTATION.
TRUST HAS SORT OF MORAL JUDGMENT, SORT OF CONNOTATION IN THE WORD.
BUT BUT EXPECTATION IS SORT OF INCLUDES THE PROBABILITY FACTORS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AT ONE POINT IN YOUR IN YOUR TALK, NOT JUST WHAT YOU SAY, BUT PREDICTABILITY IN SOME SENSE.
IT'S PREDICTABILITY. I THINK IT'S A DISTINCTION.
THANK YOU. I REALLY ENJOYED IT.
I REALLY KEYED IN ON THE PHRASE WORKING IN THE GAP BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S WHERE THE MAGIC HAPPENS.
THAT'S WHERE SOLUTIONS ARE FOUND.
I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT CONCEPT.
THAT, ONE, THERE'S A DELINEATION OF DUTIES AND ACTUAL JOB FUNCTIONS.
WE KNOW THAT. BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY OF THINKING ALSO, BUT ALSO THAT THAT WORKING IN THE GAP ISN'T JUST BETWEEN US AND STAFF, BUT THAT'S BETWEEN EACH OTHER. THAT'S BETWEEN DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW.
AND JUST TO PUSH BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT BRIAN SAID.
I SEE A REALLY CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRUST AND PREDICTABILITY OR TRUST AND EXPECTATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK THE MAGIC OF WORKING IN THE GAP IS THE ABILITY TO CHANGE YOUR MIND AND KNOWING THAT NOT ALL LINES ARE HARD BECAUSE EACH ONE OF US HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR EAR, A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM EVERY EVERY CONCEIVABLE PERSPECTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY TELLING US THAT EVERY SINGLE LINE IS HARD, THAT THERE IS NOT A SOFT LINE, THAT EVERYTHING THAT IT IS A SCORCHED EARTH ENVIRONMENT.
AND THAT'S HOPEFULLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TOMORROW.
THAT WORKING IN THE GAP MEANS THAT IT'S NOT A SCORCHED EARTH ENVIRONMENT.
THERE ARE SOFT LINES AND HARD LINES, AND THAT'S WHAT THE TRUST ASPECT IS ABOUT VERSUS TO ME, THE PREDICTABILITY OF KNOWING, WELL, THAT ONE'S ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A HARD LINE THERE, KNOWING THAT WE CAN TRUST EACH OTHER AND BE VULNERABLE ENOUGH IN OUR.
I HAVE PREDICTABILITY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE, THAT I KNOW HOW THE VOTE COUNTS GOING TO GO, AND THAT I'M RAILING AGAINST THE WIND IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER SOMETIMES. STARTING POINT ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I GO BACK OVER HERE? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A REFLECTION ON THE WORKSHOP? YES. YOU KNOW, I REALLY IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AND I'M AT ITS CORE, THE WORD POLITICKING, LOW LOVIN, HATE IT.
THAT'S JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, AT THIS LEVEL.
BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE DO AT THIS LEVEL.
BUT NOW IT'S IT'S KIND OF WHAT I TOOK FROM IT IS IT'S IT'S A CHARACTERISTIC IT'S A DEFINING THING.
IT'S NOT IT'S NOT DESCRIBING A POSITION AS MUCH AS IT IS A SET OF ACTIONS, A MINDSET, ETC., ETC..
SO THAT SO THAT WAS A BIG THING FOR ME BECAUSE I MEAN, AGAIN, ABOUT WORD TO WHEN YOU SAID IT TWICE, IT'S LIKE SON OF A GUN AND YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU KNOW BETTER PART OF TODAY BUT YOU KNOW SO THAT THAT'S SO TRUE AND THEN I REALLY LOVE I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CITIZEN COMPONENT AND SO THERE'S A MACHINATION OF THE VALUES IS CORE AND AND THAT IS SO INSIGHTFUL TO SAY YOU CANNOT IGNORE THESE CORE VALUES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
AND IT'S JUST A BIG REASON WHY I SERVE.
SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A MESHING OF THINGS THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WAS THAT WAS REALLY INSIGHTFUL AND IT'S BEST POLITICS IS ABOUT NEGOTIATION AND COMPROMISE THAT'S THAT'S YEAH THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY BECAUSE I MEAN, I ALMOST WANTED TO ASK YOU BECAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORD POLITICS NOW, PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY JUMP TO THE NATIONAL
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POLITICAL SCENE, TO PARTY POLITICS, TO EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.AND BUT IT REALLY IS ABOUT NEGOTIATION AND COLLABORATION AND IN SOME SENSE, COMPROMISE.
SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, FOR ME, TRUST AND EXPECTATION OF BEHAVIOR, I HAVE ONE SET OF FACTS AWAY FROM CHANGING MY MIND. I BELIEVE YOU'RE ALREADY.
YOU SAID THAT YOU TOLD ME THAT PHRASE FROM SOMEBODY.
SO I HOPE THAT SOMEHOW I'M NOT SOMEBODY CAN'T SAY, OH, I EXPECT YOU TO DO THIS.
IT'S LIKE, HOW DO I BRING TOGETHER THESE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS TO FIND THE MAXIMUM SOLUTION TO THESE VALUES? SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CHOOSE THAT WORD SPECIFICALLY TO CREATE THAT KIND OF RESPONSE OR IF IT'S JUST THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU THINK.
BUT THAT'S OKAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TO THINK ABOUT IT IN A GOOD WAY.
I MEAN, YOU RAN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.
WELL, AND THERE IS A GOOD WAY TO BE THERE.
THE IDEALISM THAT BROUGHT ABOUT THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT, THE ROLES THAT YOU PLAY AS A MEMBER OF A GOVERNING BODY, OFFER A POSSIBILITY OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF POLITICS. AND AND THAT'S WHY KIND OF BRING BACK THE WORD LET'S TAKE IT BACK.
AND AND REMEMBER WHAT THE GOOD IS.
IT'S ABOUT FINDING THE VALUES PROFILE, MAKING DECISIONS THAT REFLECT THE COMMUNITY AND ULTIMATELY BEING WILLING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND DOWN THE ROAD IF THE CONSEQUENCES WEREN'T ACTUALLY ACCEPTABLE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S WE'RE THE EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT IS NOT ABOUT PREDICTABILITY ACCOUNTING FOR I MEAN WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE MATH WHEN I WAS SAYING EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT THAT'S THE TWO WAY STREET ACTUALLY I THINK BOTH OF YOU WERE TRYING TO DRILL INTO THAT.
BUT THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
THIS IS MY EXPECTATION, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS.
MY EXPECTATION OF OF WHERE I NEED TO GET TO.
KIND OF THING. IT'S NOT IDEAL.
IT'S NOT THE PREDICTABILITY OF I KNOW WHAT WHAT MY WORKOUT IS GOING TO BE.
IT IS MORE I AM CLEARLY COMMUNICATING WITH YOU WHAT MY FOUR VALUES ARE FOR THIS PARTICULAR EQUATION.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY EXPECTATION.
READY TO SHIFT GEARS NOW? YEAH, YEAH. YOU GOT TO SHIFT GEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO END BY FIVE.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT BACK INTO THIS CONVERSATION TOMORROW.
SO I HAVE YOU HAVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND I GUESS I'M GOING TO CALL THAT OTHER COLOR LIKE CHARTREUSE OR SOMETHING.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT TWO DIFFERENT COLORS OF STICKY NOTES.
AND YOU HAVE A SHARPIE THAT I GAVE YOU THAT A LITTLE BLUE SHARPIE.
AND WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS ON THE BLUE STICKY NOTES, I WANT YOU TO WRITE ONE IDEA PER STICKY NOTE.
WHAT ARE WHAT ARE A FEW THINGS, 3 TO 5 THINGS THAT ARE TRUE ABOUT DENTON TODAY THAT YOU LOVE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SCREW UP AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL TRUE TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
AND THEN I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S MISSING.
WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE TODAY THAT YOU HOPE WOULD BE TRUE TEN YEARS FROM NOW? AND YOU'LL WRITE THOSE ON THE CHARTREUSE STICKY NOTE.
AND AND THEN WE'LL DO A QUICK CLOSE.
YOU SAID YOU WANTED ABOUT 3 TO 5 OF EACH COLOR.
IF YOU WRITE LEGIBLY, YOU GET BONUS POINTS.
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CHANGE TO EXCLUDE HERE. JUST ASK DIFFERENT ONES.ONE PERSON. OH, CAUSE WE'RE DOING GOOD TODAY.
SO WE'RE ONLY DOING ONE THING.
OKAY. AND YOUR LUNCH? ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSING ON ON ISSUES THAT COUNCIL HAS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN DETERMINING SO OR ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT SIX OF THE TOP? SO THIS IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S ABOUT YOUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
SO I MEAN, THIS IS ULTIMATELY ABOUT CITY, BUT THINGS LIKE I'M NOT LOOKING AT ANYTHING THAT'S WRONG.
SO JUST BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT WHAT WERE THE THINGS THAT MADE ME YEAH, THOSE THINGS HERE.
BUT THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S IT'S NOT OUT OF BALANCE FOR YOU IN TEN YEARS JUST BECAUSE OF MEETINGS, I'M JUST GONNA BE LIKE.
I KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.
JUST LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE.
YOU TAKE YOURS. WELL, I'M THINKING THAT I DON'T.
DON'T LET ME RUSH YOU THROUGH.
I CAN THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT I LOOK NOW AND I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF STRUGGLING TO THINK OF THINGS THAT I WOULD HOPE FOR, FOR THE FUTURE COVER CARDS AND THE LIKE FOR THOSE FOR A LONG TIME. EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE, IT'S THOSE HYBRID CARS.
WE GOT VIDEOPHONES, WE GOT STAR TREK PADS THAT WE GOT.
WHERE DID THEY GET BACK TO YOU IN THE MOMENT? IT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. YES, WE WERE THERE AND WE PASSED THE YEAR 2019 OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T INVENT SOMETHING, ALMOST LIKE A HOVERBOARD. THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S WON THE WORLD SERIES IN 2016.
THINK ABOUT THE CITY GOVERNMENT, TOO.
WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE YOURS.
AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME HIGH RISE PICTURES IN THE NEXT COUPLE TO GIVE YOU THIS HERE.
SO THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS JUST
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BECAUSE IT'S FRIDAY AND STILL GOING.SHE REALLY HAVE PEOPLE IN THE.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE DO ME A FAVOR. YES.
I THINK IT'S NOT REALLY YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO KIND OF GIVE IT A CHANCE TO BLOW UP, OBVIOUSLY.
SO HOW ARE YOU ALL FINISHING UP? I MEAN. Q I JUST WANT TO BEFORE I GO TO YOU, BECAUSE I CAN TELL I'M LOSING YOU.
WE WILL START TOMORROW AT 9 A.M..
WILL THEY SHOULD THEY HAVE EATEN BREAKFAST? WE WILL HAVE BREAKFAST AND WE'LL HAVE A PLETHORA OF OPTIONS.
PARFAIT? WE'LL HAVE SOME BAGELS, MUFFINS, HOT COFFEE, WATER.
BUILDING CONSENSUS. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND A30. WE WILL START AT NINE.
WHEN WE COME BACK IN IN THE MORNING, WE'LL DO A QUICK REFLECTION ON THE DAY.
WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO SOME OF THE PERSONAL STUFF.
BUT THE WORD TO EACH OF YOU, ONE WORD THAT KIND OF CAPTURES FOR YOU THE DAY AND THIS WORKSHOP WITH JOHN AND YOU CAN VOLUNTEER THE PERSON ON YOUR RIGHT TO GO SECOND.
CAN YOU KEEP YOU WORD FOR THE DAY THAT JUST KIND OF WRAPS IT UP FOR YOU? THOUGHT BUBBLE. THOUGHT BUBBLE.
AND SO THAT WAS YOU. SO THERE'S ME.
YOU CAN SAY INTERESTING, INTERESTING AND EDUCATIONAL.
INSIGHTFUL, INSIGHTFUL LECTURE, NOT PTSD.
WE'LL SEE. I'LL ASK YOU ONE, PERHAPS.
WE ALL SEE HYPHENATED WORD, ALL OF THESE.
SO THAT ACTUALLY CAN BE BACK, RESPECTFULLY.
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OK. AWESOME. WE'LL LEAVE YOUR STUFF HERE IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE YOUR STUFF HERE.AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE TOMORROW MORNING.
ALL RIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.