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YEP. AND IT'S 902, RIGHT.

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OKAY, SO IT IS OUR HOUSE.

IT'S SATURDAY, JUNE 25TH, 2022.

IT IS 9:03 A.M.

WE DO HAVE A FORM SO CALLED A MEETING OF ORDER AND CALL THE FIRST ITEM AND ITEM FOR TODAY, WHICH IS A ID 22583 WHOLE DAY RETREAT DISCUSSION

[A. Hold a retreat discussion facilitated by Raftelis and give staff direction and priorities concerning the following: City services and infrastructure; streets; parks; finances, budget; planning; zoning and development; environmental issues; human resources; technology; public utilities, taxes; engineering; economic development; code enforcement; city facilities; transportation; purchasing; management; intergovernmental relations; boards, commissions and committees; meetings; agenda development; Council-Manager governance; City Council communication with staff and the public; citizen surveys; key focus areas and priorities; specific goals for the 2022-2023 fiscal year; and without limitation, any and all operations of the City of Denton city government.]

FACILITATED BY TELL US AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION AND PRIORITIES CONCERNING THE FOLLOWING CITY SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE, STREETS, PARKS, FINANCES, BUDGET PLANNING, ZONING, DEVELOPMENT, ETC.

ETC.. SO WE STARTED YESTERDAY.

WELL, I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GOOD EVENING.

JULIE AND I ENJOYED 940490.

THAT GIRL WAS DELICIOUS.

WE HAVEN'T TRIED THE EGGPLANT FRIES.

YOU NEED TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S GREAT.

AND LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR CONVERSATION TODAY JUST TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO START THE MORNING WITH A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER.

AND YESTERDAY, JOHN STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING A GOVERNING BODY.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS TO YOU AND WHAT YOUR HOPES ARE FOR THAT.

ONCE WE FINISH THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IT'LL BE TIME TO SHIFT GEARS AND MOVE INTO CONTENT.

IN TERMS OF I LIKE THE COMMENT YESTERDAY ABOUT GUARDRAILS GIVING THE STAFF THE GUARDRAILS, TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE AND GIVING THEM LICENSE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ON YOUR BEHALF.

SO WE'LL SPEND TIME ON THAT AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE STAFF ON THE SURVEY RESULTS AND GETS YOU WRAPPED UP AND OUT OF HERE ABOUT 4:00 TODAY. SO THE FIRST EXERCISE IS GOVERNING TOGETHER AND THAT IS SERIES OF QUESTIONS.

THAT WAS IN YOUR MEMO ABOUT WHAT GOOD GOVERNANCE LOOKS LIKE TO YOU, WHAT VALUES ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU IN GOVERNING? WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF A DECISION AND WHEN YOU'RE NOT, WHAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP YOU WANT TO HAVE WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE GOVERNING BODY AND THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP YOU WANT TO HAVE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE STAFF, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU HOPE THIS GOVERNING BODY WILL BE KNOWN FOR. AND THE WAY I'D LIKE TO DO THIS IS EACH WILL ANSWER EACH QUESTION, HAVING ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SHARE THEIR THEIR ANSWERS AND RESPONSES TO THAT TO EACH QUESTION.

AND WE JUST KIND OF GO AROUND UNTIL WE GET EVERYBODY STUFF UP THERE AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND BRANDON IS JUST COMING IN, SO THAT'S GOOD.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET STARTED.

SO WHOEVER WANTS TO START WITH WHAT DOES GOOD GOVERNANCE LOOK LIKE TO YOU? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL DID YOUR HOMEWORK AND YOUR RESPONSES TO EACH OF THE SIX QUESTIONS.

WE GET HOMEWORK IF SOMEBODY GIVES ME AN ADVANCE.

YES, VICKI, YOU WILL GO FIRST.

DO YOU ALWAYS GO FIRST? NO, I KNOW YOU DON'T USUALLY GO LEFT.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO WHAT'S GOOD GOVERNANCE LOOK LIKE TO ME? LOOKS LIKE POLITICS IS THE KIND OF POLITICS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.

THE DEFINITION OF POLITICS IS COOPERATING, COOPERATION AND COOPERATION. AND WHAT'S THE OTHER WORD THAT STARTS WITH THE COLLABORATIVE? COLLABORATIVE, COLLABORATIVE.

THAT'S WHAT GOOD GOVERNANCE MEANS.

AND THAT MEANS FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

YOU WANT THEM TO HEAR YOU.

YOU WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT YOU HEAR THEM.

FOR INSTANCE, I GET EMAILS FROM MY CONSTITUENTS.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

MY JOB IS TO PASS IT ON TO THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT TO DO AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHAT GOOD GOVERNANCE IS FOR ME.

CHRIS WELL, I'M GOING TO CONFESS, I DIDN'T SEE THE QUESTION.

I DIDN'T ANSWER, BUT I CAN ANSWER IT.

AND THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT FACILITATORS ASK IS YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO PREPARE.

WHAT'S GOOD WITH GOOD GOVERNANCE LOOKS LIKE TO YOU? WELL, I'M GOING TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE WORD POLITICS.

AND GOOD GOVERNANCE IS MAKING DECISIONS OUTSIDE OF ONE'S OWN POLITICAL OR.

PERSONAL IDEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE, NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE FACTS AND DATA SPECIFIC ISSUE, INCLUDING PUBLIC INPUT,

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INCLUDING COLLEAGUES INPUT, INCLUDING STAFF INPUT, AND TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION THAT MAXIMIZES THE INTERESTS OF AS MANY AS A COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE. NOW SOMETIMES YOU HAVE ISSUES THAT ARE NOT HEARD, ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID.

SHE AND I DIDN'T AGREE ON MUCH, BUT I DID AGREE WITH THAT.

SOME CERTAIN THINGS ON CIVIL RIGHTS, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MAJORITY.

YOU HAVE TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE AND YOUR CONSTITUENCY AND YOUR VALUES.

BUT SO I THINK THAT DISAGREEMENT, I THINK, IS IS A VITAL PART OF GOOD GOVERNANCE BECAUSE IT FLUSHES OUT ALL THE VARIOUS ISSUES AND OBJECTIVES AND PERSPECTIVES THAT GO INTO MAKING THE BEST DECISION.

EVERYBODY THOUGHT ALIKE.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOU'RE GOING TO GET HALF OF AN EQUATION, HALF OF THE SOLUTION.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS, IS TO ME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT YOU? I'LL AGREE WITH A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.

I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR HAVING A FULL DIALOG.

BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT IN GOVERNANCE IS SOMETHING THAT I KEEP COMING BACK TO AND THAT'S MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE THE RELEVANT FACTS AND DATA.

IF I CAN PLAY OFF THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS IS, THIS RESPONSIVE GOVERNMENT THAT JOHN TALKS ABOUT.

IF THAT DOESN'T DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE, IF WHAT STAFF AND COUNCIL ARE DOING DOESN'T FILTER BACK IN A WAY THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, THEN YOU GET PUSHBACK, YOU GET A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT CREATES NEW CONTROVERSIES THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THERE.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE OVERSIGHT AND THE FACTS OF DATA.

IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT SORT OF MAYBE I FEEL THIS WAY BECAUSE I'M AN EDUCATOR, BUT IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE, BUT WITH ME.

THANK YOU. COME ALL THE WAY AROUND TO YOU, JESSE.

GOOD GOVERNANCE TO ME, IS A FAIR PROCESS WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR THE MOST PEOPLE.

BEST OUTCOMES. AND I BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THAT FAIR WRAPS IN SOME OF THESE IDEAS OF TRANSPARENCY COLLABORATIVE.

EVERYBODY GETS A VOICE THAT WE'RE COMPARING NOTES THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SEEING THAT THE LOUDEST VOICES GET THE LOUDEST VOICES WHEN AND THEN ALSO SAY THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES FOR THE MOST PEOPLE.

I AGREE WITH CHRIS. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT IT'S NOT A MAJORITY VOTING.

THERE'S JUST BLACK AND WHITE, RIGHT AND WRONG.

MOST OF WHAT WE DO, THOUGH, IS MORE LIKE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY EVENING, THAT THERE'S A BALANCE TO BE HAD.

YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SCORE 100 IN ALL CATEGORIES.

YOU'VE GOT TO FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE.

AND SO SOMETIMES IT DOES COME DOWN TO WHAT IS WHAT IS THE BEST POSSIBLE CHOICE FOR THIS SCENARIO.

NOT EVERYBODY'S WALKING AWAY HAPPY, BUT WHERE CAN WE FIND A FAIR COMPROMISE? THANK YOU. LET'S SEE.

GOOD MORNING, BRANDON.

WHAT'S GOOD GOVERNANCE LOOK LIKE TO YOU? SO. YOU KNOW, ADMITTEDLY, I MEAN, I WAS BORN WAY BACK IN 1985.

I HAVEN'T SEEN GOOD GOVERNANCE IN MY LIFETIME, NOT HERE IN TEXAS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I KNOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE IT TO HEAR THAT I WOULD LIKE IT TO LOOK LIKE, IF ANY.

Y'ALL PAY ATTENTION TO FRISCO.

THAT'S THE BONUS FOR ME.

THE WAY THAT THEY DO BUSINESS.

THAT FOR ME LOOKS LIKE GOOD GOVERNANCE.

TALK ABOUT THAT GOOD GOVERNANCE.

TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE BEING HONEST AND IT LOOKS LIKE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT A 5149 SPLIT.

EVERYBODY HAS GOT TO WALK AWAY DISAPPOINTED.

EVERYBODY'S GOT TO WALK AWAY A LITTLE HAPPY.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE TEMPERATURE ON AN AIRPLANE.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WHILE MANY PEOPLE BEMOAN, LIKE, CONTENTIOUS ISSUES AND FOR THREE VOTES, I THINK THAT'S GOOD GOVERNANCE.

I THINK THAT'S IDEALLY WHAT THIS THING IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.

PURPLE IS THE COLOR OF THE DAY FOR ME.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

SO, WAIT, I JUST. I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHY DID YOU THINK I WAS GOING TO TRUST ME? SORRY. I THINK THE GOOD GOVERNANCE LOOKS LIKE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND I LIKE THE WAY THAT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS PUT IT, THE BEST THAT WE CAN FOR THE MOST NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY IS DIVERSE

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AND HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS, BUT MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT IS JUST AND EQUITABLE AND SUSTAINABLE AND I MEAN THAT BOTH IN THE SENSE OF ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY. I ALSO MEAN FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN A WAY THAT THAT WILL SUSTAIN US INTO THE FUTURE.

SO I THINK THAT WE'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION IN LEADERSHIP TO SET A COURSE FOR THE FUTURE AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE IN A WAY THAT A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T, DON'T GET TO DO.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY KEY TO WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

NOW YOU CAN GO GREAT.

NO. AND I HAVE A I HAVE A SUGGESTION OF TECHNOLOGY EXIST FOR FOR FUTURE SESSIONS.

LIKE WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS, YOU SHOULD HAVE A KIND OF A WAY FOR PARTICIPANTS TO SEND MESSAGES OR COMMENTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT SAID LIKE, OH, YOU CAN'T OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT JUST KIND OF WOULD HELP YOU.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE THE POST-IT NOTE THING.

BUT BUT YES, BUT NO ONE SEES IT AFTER YOU CAN RECONCILE IT AND SEE ALL THOSE THOUGHTS BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY CONTENTIOUS.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL INVITE YOU IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING, USE A STICKY NOTE AND WE'LL TAKE THEM UP AND DO IT LATER.

YEAH, I'LL TAKE YOUR SUGGESTION.

YEAH, NO, I'LL DO IT.

YES. SO SO WITH RESPECT TO GOVERNANCE, I THINK I'M GOING TO TAKE I'M GOING TO TAKE YOUR YOUR DEFINITION YESTERDAY OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

IT'S TO PROTECT, ENHANCE, ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE BRAND.

I REALLY THINK THAT'S THE GOVERNANCE.

IT'S ABOUT MANAGING OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF AND KIND OF YOUR SELF BECOMES NOT SECOND.

IT'S THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH AND IT'S MORE PROJECTING THAT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY TO ME WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO WHAT'S MISSING IS THE DIVERSIFICATION OF THAT CONVERSATION, MEANING THE EXAMPLE I LIKE TO USE WHEN I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE TO GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND IT, BECAUSE BIAS GENERALLY IS A BAD WORD AND PEOPLE TAKE OFFENSE TO IT.

SO I TRY TO SOFTEN THAT BY USING THE WORD PERM.

SO PERM THE SAME WORD, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU GO TO A TRADITIONALLY BLACK HAIR SALON, YOUR HAIR IS COMING OUT STRAIGHT.

IF YOU TELL THEM YOU WANT A PERM, IF YOU GO TO A TRADITIONALLY WHITE SALON, YOUR HAIR IS COMING OUT CURLY.

YES. AND SO THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S A VERNACULAR.

THERE IS AN ACTION.

THERE IS A FLOW IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES, JUST DETERMINED BASED ON WHERE YOU FALL IN LIFE'S KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, AROUND RACIAL LINES.

AND SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I DON'T THINK THAT'S FACTORED IN ENOUGH.

EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENED TO SOMEONE TRADITIONALLY LEGAL.

RIGHT. AND SO IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF THE IF THE GOVERNING BODY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE EFFECT OF THE WORD PERM BASED ON YOUR TYPE CITY HAIR SALON, THEN SARAH CAN'T GET OVER THIS.

YEAH, YEAH. NO, IT'S IT'S AWESOME.

THIS IS NEW INFORMATION.

I LOVE THE EXAMPLE. IT TRULY IS LIKE, LEARN SOMETHING TODAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE.

USE IT. IT REALLY IS.

YEAH. I MEAN, I HAD NO I MEAN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

SOMEONE LIKE ME, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT APARTMENT YOU GO IN, COME OUT WITH A LOT OF LITTLE ORPHAN ANNIE A'S HERE.

BUT WHEN YOU SAID FROM A PERSON OF THAT PERSON IT'S TO STRAIGHTEN THEIR HAIR.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT. YEAH, I HONESTLY DID NOT KNOW THAT ANYMORE.

I SEE YOUR HAND. I'M GOOD.

OKAY. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ADD ON TO THE CONVERSATION? THE TERM PERM MEANS PERMANENT TERMINOLOGY.

BUT YOU SAY THAT WHITE PEOPLE, WHITE WOMEN GO IN AND GET THEIR HAIR PERMANENTLY FOR SIX WEEKS.

LIKE BLACK GIRLS LIKE ME GO IN IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FIRM TO GET YOUR HAIR PERMANENTLY STRAIGHTENED FOR SIX WEEKS, IT'S FOR SIX WEEKS.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT THE HISTORY OF THAT IS BECAUSE AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OUR HAIR. AND WE HAD BEEN STRUCTURED TO.

YEAH. COME TO GRIPS WITH THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING A JOB IF OUR HAIR LOOKS LIKE THIS BACK IN THE DAY.

BUT WE HAVE TAKEN CHARGE OF OUR OWN LIVES AND OUR BODIES BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE CAN.

AND IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO COME IN THIS ROOM WITH MY HAIR LOOKING LIKE THIS.

SOME OF IT IS CURLY.

SOME OF IT IS STRAIGHT, BECAUSE I HAVE IN THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

I MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WHITE PEOPLE IN MY DNA, BUT THAT'S MY THAT'S MY HISTORY.

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THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COMES INTO THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE HERE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

ST I NEVER HEARD ANYONE USE IT THAT I REALLY IT.

PARDON ME, I JUST HAD TO ANALOGY THE ANALOGY.

IT REALLY IS. YES.

IS GOOD GOVERNANCE NECESSARILY FAIR? ARE YOU ASKING AN EQUITY QUALITY QUESTION? I THINK LONG TERM, YEAH.

I THINK INDIVIDUAL ISSUES MIGHT HAVE THAT THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, THAT EQUITY AND QUALITY AREN'T THE SAME THING.

BUT YES, A FAIR A FAIR PROCESS IS WHAT I WAS DESCRIBING MY BACK MY.

LET'S TALK ABOUT VALUES, BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS DEFINITELY BLEEDING INTO VALUES.

WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? IF YOU'VE ALREADY GONE FIRST, YOU CAN'T GO FIRST.

SO EVERYONE GETS TURNED TO GO FIRST BECAUSE I LIKE THAT.

SO LET'S START WITH WHAT VALUES ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU IN GOVERNING? YOU READY TO GO? SURE.

AS I SAID YESTERDAY, EQUITY.

EQUITY. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FOLKS TO BALANCE OUT THE HISTORICAL SCALES.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN FIRST FOR A LONG TIME.

AMERICA'S CHANGED.

I AS A RELIGIOUS PERSON, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

MY BIBLE SAYS THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST AND THE FIRST SHALL BE LAST.

I WANT TO HELP USHER THAT IN AS FAST AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN BALANCE OUT THESE HISTORICAL SCALES.

SO EQUITY IS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF MY TOP PERSONAL VALUES.

JESSE, I THINK.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE VALUE THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT ONES, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THE LIST, BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, I THINK, IS FAIR DEALING.

AND I USE THAT WORD AGAIN.

AND I MEAN PLAIN DEALING, TRUSTWORTHY DEALING, SAYING WHAT YOU MEAN, SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU CAN ASK ME AND YOU CAN TRUST THAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU.

HERE'S WHAT I MEANT. I'M SORRY IF THAT MEANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO YOU.

THIS IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY, AND THAT WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING TO ME, I CAN KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT NOT LAYERS OF POLITICAL MACHINATION BEHIND IT.

WE HAVE TO DO THE POLITICS.

WE ALL HAVE TO GET ELECTED.

AND ALL OF US VOTED FOR EACH OTHER OR SUPPORTED EACH OTHER OR WHATEVER.

WHEN WE'RE DOING THE JOB THAT WE CAN DEAL PLAINLY AND FAIRLY WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT AND NOT DO THE GAMESMANSHIP UP ON THE DICE.

GAMESMANSHIP. THAT'S RIGHT.

THE VALUES ARE IMPORTANT TO.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GOVERN MY MY BEHAVIOR ON THE DICE IS, IS I MEAN, I SAVE THEM ALL THE TIME, BUT IT IS IT IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIVE AND EDUCATING AND THEN MANAGING EXPECTATIONS.

I SEE THAT A LOT BECAUSE THOSE ARE IMPORTANT VALUES FOR ME.

IN REGARDS TO JOHN'S FIRST CATEGORY OF RESPONSIVE GOVERNMENT, BUT ALSO INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE SEEN WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNSELORS SAY, WHICH IS IS TRYING TO GET AT THE RELEVANT FACTS.

MY CAREER IS ANALYTICAL AND I'M GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME DRILLING DOWN SO THAT THE POLICY MATCHES THE ANALYSIS.

AND YOU DON'T GET YOU DON'T GET A BRANCH TREE OF UMPTEEN BAJILLION RESPONSES.

WHEN YOU MAKE A POLICY, YOU HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT YOUR RESULTS ARE GOING TO BE.

SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOR ME ON THE DAIS, FOR MY VALUES, IS THAT WE ARE WE ARE GETTING THE RELEVANT FACTS AND THAT WE'RE CONVEYING THOSE FACTS TO EACH OTHER.

AND THAT SHOWS, AGAIN, AS I SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO, THAT REVEALS MY BIAS AS A AS AN EDUCATOR, AS A RESEARCHER.

BUT THAT IS HOW WHAT I'M BRINGING TO THE DAIS, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IN THAT REGARD.

CHRIS, WHAT IS THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE GOVERN OR WHAT VALUES ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU IN GOVERNING? SO AS YOU GO THROUGH WHAT VALUES, FOR ME IT'S FOR YOU FAIRNESS, EQUITY, HONESTY, AUTHENTICITY AND THE ABILITY TO LISTEN AND HEAR.

VICKY, HOW ABOUT YOU? THE VALUES THAT I BRING TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS.

THE ABILITY TO BE EDUCATED.

OUR CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS LEADER.

I DIDN'T SEE THREE EDUCATORS HERE EITHER.

I'M ELEMENTARY AGE.

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I TAUGHT MIDDLE SCHOOL. MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS ARE ASKED.

I ALWAYS ASK PEOPLE TO TALK ON KINDERGARTEN LEVEL.

I MEAN, SIXTH GRADE IN REAL LIFE SO WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND.

I AM JUST SO ADAMANT ABOUT RESPECT.

HIT HOME WITH ME YESTERDAY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT RESPECT LEVEL.

WE ARE ALL PROFESSIONALS IN HERE.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW DESERVE TO BE IN THIS ROOM.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS WALKED THE WALK, TALK THE TALK.

WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN THINGS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH PERSONALLY.

BUT THE PEOPLE VOTED IN SAYING THIS WILL NOT BE COMING.

THEY TRUST US TO SPEAK FOR THEM AND THEY TRUST US TO TAKE THIS CITY TO A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE STILL COMFORTABLE, EVEN IF THERE ARE 250,000 PEOPLE HERE.

SO I VALUE THAT PART IN MAKING SURE THAT ALTHOUGH WE MAY NOT ALL AGREE, BUT WE ARE RESPECTFUL SO THAT THAT THAT RIGHT THERE IS FOR ME IS WHAT SETS ME OFF.

IF I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING DISRESPECTED, I DON'T HEAR, YOU KNOW, ANY TERM.

SO ANYBODY THAT'S SITTING ON THE STAGE, IF I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE DISRESPECTING ME AND I DON'T ASK FOR MUCH BECAUSE I DON'T NEED MUCH BECAUSE I'M INTELLIGENT AND EMOTIONALLY CONNECTED, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT.

NO DISRESPECT ME BECAUSE I RESPECT EVERYTHING.

I RESPECT OUR ATTORNEYS, CITY MANAGER.

BUT IT ALL GOES TOGETHER.

AND THEN WE ALL GO TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO SAY.

AND I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SAY ANYTHING TO YOU WHEN YOU DON'T CALL ON ME ANYWAY.

NO, WE GOT MORE QUESTIONS. MAYOR, WHAT IS.

WHAT IS RESPECT? LOOK LIKE YOU? WHAT VALUES ARE? R-E-S-P-E-C-T. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SO VALUES.

LET ME GET BACK THERE BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET OVER HERE.

WRITE IT DOWN. FORGET IT. SO FOR ME, IT'S IT'S A PREMIUM ON KEEPING DENTON'S KIND OF CULTURE EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN WHY THAT MATTERS IS BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAS A TOUCH OF WHAT MAYOR ROSS TALKED ABOUT FROM AN HONESTY PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S BEING AUTHENTIC TO AND PLACING A PREMIUM ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, RESPONSIVENESS AND IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE.

YOU CAN'T BE THE ENTIRE CITY, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T BE YOU CAN'T HAVE THOSE VALUES OF IF WE TIE OURSELVES TO THE CITIZENS OF DENTON AND THOSE VALUES THAT KIND OF WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEM.

YOU WON'T HAVE WILD SWINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE 140,000 PEOPLE.

SO YOU NEED FOR THE MAJORITY OF THAT TO CHANGE.

YOU'D NEED 70,000 PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR MIND, WHICH ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO IN A PROSPECT WHERE WE HAVE AN ELECTION EVERY YEAR AND THIS BODY COULD TURN OVER EVERY YEAR, IF EVERYONE'S VALUES ARE FOCUSED ON THE CITIZENS OF DENTON, THEN THERE IS A CONSISTENCY THAT DOES NOT HAVE THESE WILD SWINGS.

AND SO FOR ME, THAT'S THE VALUE BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM IS SET UP THAT IF I WANT TO COME UP HERE AND YANK THE STEERING WHEEL, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEONE YANKS IT BACK.

AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT VERSUS A MUNICIPALITY THAT IS FUNCTIONING AS IT SHOULD.

SO THOSE VALUES AND ARE AT YOUR CORE.

AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A FEEDBACK.

SO COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS HAD A VOTE THAT WAS TERRIBLE AND HE WOULDN'T SAY SO, BUT I DID.

AND SO I CALLED IT, I SAID, HEY, HOW DID YOU GET HERE? AND HERE'S HOW I SEE IT, AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU SAW IT.

AND HE EXPLAINED TO ME HOW HE SAW IT.

AND WE CAME TO AN UNDERSTANDING.

BUT HIS HEART, HIS IT WASN'T THIS WILD SWING.

IT WAS JUST A LITTLE OFF. RIGHT.

IT WAS JUST KIND OF. HEY, HOW DID I DIDN'T I DIDN'T READ YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT THAT WAY.

AND HE SAID, YEAH, I GOT LOCKED IN ON BULLET .4.6 AND DIDN'T SEE TO THERE BECAUSE I WAS JUST LOCKED IN DOWN HERE.

BUT WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT IT WAS I SAY THAT TO SAY EVEN ON WHEN HE WAS OFF, IT WAS IN LINE WITH EXPECTATIONS JUST DIFFERENT THAN I THAN THAN I WOULD HAVE SEEN IT.

AND I NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS MISSING.

AND SO WAS THAT A RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION?

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YES. BEFORE BEFORE THE CONVERSATION.

THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MYSELF ABOUT HIM.

NO. BUT THEN WHEN I CALLED HIM, IT WAS GREAT.

AND I LEFT. I LEFT WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, GOT IT.

YOU APOLOGIZED TO YOURSELF FOR TALKING TO YOURSELF THAT WAY ABOUT.

NO, NO. RIGHT. YOU GOT IT. I GOT TO GO BACK AND DO THAT.

I'LL MAKE A NOTE. ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING, TOO, IS THAT THE VALUES GIVE YOU A FOUNDATION, AND IT ALSO GIVES YOU THEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STABILITY BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE AND REFLECTING ON THOSE. DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT VALUES? I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE ALISON.

I THINK I'M GOING TO GIVE AN ANSWER THAT IS REALLY SIMILAR TO MY ANSWER TO THE LAST QUESTION.

I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, I'M STRONGLY WITH WITH COUNCILMEMBER MCGEE.

THE EQUITY IS A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR ME.

IT'S A VALUE THAT I HOLD VERY DEAR AND.

I GUESS I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO SUSTAINABILITY, ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SUSTAINABILITY OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. BECAUSE I, I AM ALWAYS HYPER AWARE OF, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, THE FACT THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE ON THIS BODY FOR VERY LONG.

AND I AM PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE HERE WHEN THE IMPACTS OF THE DECISIONS THAT I'VE HELPED TO MAKE ARE BEING REALIZED.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS AT THE CORE OF EVERY DECISION THAT I TRY TO MAKE IS HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT THE FUTURE OF THE CITY WHEN I'M NO LONGER ON COUNCIL, WHICH MIGHT MIGHT BE NEXT YEAR? WE'LL SEE. THE NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT PREVAILING AND NOT I INTENTIONALLY DON'T USE THE TERMS WINNING AND LOSING BUT WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE WHAT DO YOU NEED TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF A VOTE AND WHEN YOU'RE NOT? SO BOTH SIDES, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? YEAH. YOU WANT TO GO FIRST ON THIS ONE? I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I THINK SEVERAL OF US MENTIONED IT.

LISTENING IS IMPORTANT, A HEARING AND NOT JUST HAVING YOUR EARS OPEN AND LETTING SOUND COME IN, BUT ALSO I THINK WHERE I WANT TO ADD ON THIS ONE IS IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO BRIDGE, TO HAVE A CONNECTION TO TO BRING PEOPLE MAYBE NOT TO WHERE YOU ARE, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A CHANNEL FOR THEM.

EVEN IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THAT CHANNEL, THEY DON'T GO DOWN THAT TUNNEL.

THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GET TO WHERE YOU ARE.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO SORT OF TO BUILD A BRIDGE, TO BUILD UNDERSTANDING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK DOWN THE TUNNEL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THERE.

BUT YOU NEED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, TO TAKE A PAGE FROM MCGUIRE'S AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THERE IS A CHANCE THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH EACH OTHER, WHETHER YOU'RE PREVAILING OR ON THE LOSING SIDE. SO YOU HAVE TO BEHAVE IN SUCH A WAY TO PROTECT THE RELATIONSHIP FOR FUTURE DECISIONS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHRIS.

I'M A SECOND LAST TIME.

WELL, YEAH, WE GO SECOND TWICE.

YOU JUST CAN'T GO FIRST TWICE.

LAST TIME YOU DIDN'T GO FIRST.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SEE ME FIRST.

OH, MAN. WELL, I DON'T REALLY SEE I DON'T REALLY DISTINGUISH BETWEEN ANYBODY THAT'S WATCHED ME OVER THE YEARS.

ONE OF MY MAIN SAYINGS IS, I TRUST THE PROCESS.

I TRUST THE PROCESS. I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WINNERS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOSERS.

I DON'T NECESSARILY COUCH IT IN THAT WE'RE ALL MAKING DECISIONS BASED UPON HOW WE SEE THE FACTS, HOW WE SEE THE DATA, HOW WE SEE THE ISSUES, HOW WE INTERPRET WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BACK THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T HARM RELATIONSHIPS.

AND BRIDGE BUILDING IS TWO WAYS, EVEN SOMEBODY WHO PREVAILS.

I MEAN, WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER SAY THAT HE TOOK A VOTE AND HE REGRETTED HIS VOTE.

I MEAN, THAT HAPPENS. YOU KNOW, YOU VOTE.

AND WHEN THINGS COME OUT AND WHEN SITUATIONS OCCUR, THEN YOU SEE THE IMPACTS OF THOSE VOTES.

SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT PROBABLY MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN THE BEST THING.

AND THOSE ARE JUST AS MUCH EDUCATIONAL MOMENTS, I THINK, AS ANYTHING.

SO TO ME IT'S JUST ABOUT RESPECTING THE PROCESS, RESPECTING THE COLLEAGUES.

EVERYBODY'S GOT A DIFFERENT APPROACH, A DIFFERENT OPINION, AS WAS REFLECTED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO VOTE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ELECTED TO DO.

AND YOU DON'T GET WORKED UP ABOUT IT.

IF YOU LOSE, YOU LOSE.

IF YOU WIN, YOU WIN.

BECAUSE MOST OFTEN, WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU DID, IT USUALLY DOESN'T PAN OUT.

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THAT'S EXACTLY HOW EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OR THE SIDE THAT DIDN'T PREVAIL ON THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE, IT VERY SELDOM TURNS OUT EXACTLY HOW IT'S PERCEIVED THAT IT'S GOING TO EITHER WAY.

VICKI. WELL, I CAN ACTUALLY SAY THAT I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE CHRIS WATSON SAID EXACTLY EVERYTHING, IN MY OPINION.

I JUST SIMPLY DON'T TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY BECAUSE THIS JOB IS FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT FOR ME. AND I ACTUALLY DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH MONEY.

BUT IT'S NOT FOR ME.

IT'S FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE.

AND SO I CAN JUST ONLY VOTE THE WAY THAT I THINK THAT MY CONSTITUENTS WOULD VOTE.

AND IF IT WORKS, IT WORKS.

IF IT DOESN'T, IT DOES NOT.

BUT IT'S NOT EVER PERSONAL.

I CAN'T IMAGINE BEING UPSET WITH ANYONE OR ANYTHING THAT YOU FELT RESPECTED AS FAR AS LONG AS I FEEL RESPECTED IN REGARDS TO THAT VOTE BY MY COLLEAGUES. AND SOMETIMES I KNOW I'M IN A POSITION RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY, THAT SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO BE VERY UPSET WITH ME BY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ME.

BUT IT'S OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY UPSET WITH ME.

THEY'RE UPSET WITH THE PROCESS BY WHICH.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY I AM.

I DON'T HATE PEOPLE. I HAVE A LOT OF LOVE IN MY HEART TO GIVE AND WE'RE GOING TO SPREAD THAT, THAT ENERGY THAT WAY.

YEAH. SO THE PROBLEM IS NORMALLY I'M RIGHT.

AND SO THAT BECOMES A CRISIS.

THAT'S JUST THE BURDEN I HAVE TO BEAR.

RIGHT. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU JUST WAIT RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU JUST WAIT AND IT SWINGS BACK AROUND BECAUSE YOU WERE RIGHT AND THEY REALIZE IT SOMETIMES.

THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT IF THE DAY IS ALL SINCERE.

NO, I THINK IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT.

THERE'S NO HIGHS AND LOWS.

RIGHT. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT. IT'S LIKE SO HICKORY STREET GETS FIXED BEFORE ELM STREET, THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

THAT'S NOT EVEN APPARENTLY A OF THAT.

RIGHT. I THINK WHERE YOU WHERE YOU GET INTO THESE ISSUES IS WHERE YOU GET INTO ISSUES WE SHOULDN'T BE IN.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE, HEY, THIS MINORITY GROUP SAYS, HEY, YOU PUSH THIS THROUGH AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A BIG ISSUE.

BUT NO CITY ISSUES.

OUR STREETS BAR, WE OPEN A POLICE STATION.

YEAH, IT'S JUST LIKE THERE'S NO HIGHS AND LOWS THERE.

AND BUT I'LL TELL YOU TRULY, I JUST YOU DO YOU DO THE RESEARCH.

YOU YOU ANALYZE ON THE FRONT END.

YOU WORK VERY HARD ON THE FRONT END BEFORE VOTES.

AND SO YOU SO THAT IT PREVENTS YOU OR AT LEAST GIVES YOU PEACE OF MIND.

BUT THERE'S THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL NOTE IS THERE'S PRECIOUS FEW THINGS THAT I GET TO DO BECAUSE I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.

I ALWAYS DEFER TO THE MAJORITY IN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S JUST HOW THAT'S THAT'S WHAT KEEPS THIS THING TOGETHER.

BECAUSE AT ANY MOMENT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AT ANY MOMENT YOU CAN BE GONE FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS.

RIGHT. AND SO IT'S JUST THE WILD SWINGS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS JUST HAVE NO PLACE AT THE DAIS.

AND SO IN OUR AND PROOF OF CONCEPT, I'LL TELL YOU.

SO WE HAD A WE HAD A VOTE FOR TO HIRE SOMEONE.

SO WE HAVE FIVE DIRECT REPORTS.

WE HAD A VOTE. I WAS ON THE ONE END OF THAT SIX VOTE.

I FELT SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT THAT I WAS I WASN'T GOING.

AND THEN THAT VOTE SWUNG BACK AROUND 70A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I BELIEVE.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU JUST YOU YOU DO WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT THING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND YOU LIVE WITH IT.

YOU STEP INTO THE SIX TO BECOME SEVEN, OR DID SIX PEOPLE STEP INTO ONE AND BECOME SEVEN? THE LATTER? IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.

AND IT WAS ABSOLUTE.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M BIASED, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU IT'S A GOD THING BECAUSE IT HAD NO BUSINESS HAPPENING THAT WAY.

BUT IT DID. AND BUT I THINK YOU DO THE RESEARCH ON THE FRONT END OF EVERY DAY AND YOU AGAIN, STAY IN TUNE WITH THE PEOPLE AND TALK TO PEOPLE.

AND AND I REPRESENT THEM.

I DON'T GET TO DO WHAT GERARD WANTS TO DO.

THAT'S WHY I MAKE IT INTO MY PRESENTATION.

IT'S LIKE WHAT I'M PRESENTING TO PEOPLE.

I HAVE A SLIDE FOR JUST, HEY, HERE'S THE THINGS I WANT TO DO AN APPLE STORE.

THIS IS LIKE ALL THESE THINGS THAT I NEVER GET TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M PUT HERE TO DO.

ALISON. LOTS TO THINK ABOUT.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT I WAS ACTUALLY WITH YOU ON ON THAT INITIALLY.

GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. I THINK SO.

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YEAH. I THINK I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE MADE SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT KIND OF LETTING THINGS GO.

WE DO OUR WORK.

WE WE TRY TO SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

WE TRY TO THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT THE VARIOUS OUTCOMES COULD BE.

AND THEN WE ALL VOTE OUR CONSCIENCE AND KIND OF HAVE TO LET IT GO.

AND I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON HOW WE FEEL AFTER A VOTE TOWARD OUR COLLEAGUES.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS THIS EXPERIENCE, BUT I TEND TO BEAT MYSELF UP A LOT WHEN I FEEL THAT I'VE MADE A MISTAKE AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW VOTES.

I MEAN, BEING SOMEONE WHO'S THE YOUNGEST MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND THE MOST INEXPERIENCED IN THIS REALM, I'VE MADE QUITE A FEW VOTES OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT I HAVE LATER FELT WERE NOT THE RIGHT DECISION.

AND AT LEAST FOR ME, I NEED TO LEARN HOW TO LET THAT GO JUST AS MUCH AS I NEED TO LET GO OF VOTES THAT DIDN'T GO MY WAY OR VOTES WHERE MY COLLEAGUES DISAGREED WITH ME AND I WAS IN THE PREVAILING MAJORITY.

YEAH, I THINK I COULD STAND TO WORK ON LETTING GO OF THOSE DECISIONS ONCE THEY'RE MADE.

THANK YOU, BRANDON.

FOR YOU. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE AND WHEN YOU'RE NOT AT THE OUTSET, I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD ASK THIS.

I HOPE THAT IF SOMEDAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT GASLIGHTING, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT GASLIGHTING IS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE ALL KNOW WE DO IT SOMETIMES. AND BRYAN KNOWS THIS.

I GET POPPED ON IT ONCE A WEEK AT LEAST.

MY BUREAU CONSTANTLY POINTS OUT THAT'S GASLIGHTING.

STOP THAT SO IT'S SATURDAY.

THIS SATURDAY I WORE SANDALS AND SHORTS.

MY BAD. YEAH. SO AT SOME POINT, I HOPE THAT YOU GO OVER THAT SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS AND WHY THAT'S A PROBLEM.

OKAY. I'M GONNA COSIGN ON EVERYTHING CHRIS SAID.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

SOMETIMES I'M LIKE, YOU WIN SOMETIMES AND, LIKE, YOU LOSE.

MY PROCESS IS I HOPE AS FOLKS WILL SEE IT AS A GENUINE PROCESS, I AM GENUINELY TRYING TO GET TO KNOW EVERY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES. I LITERALLY WANT TO FORM A DEEP AND VALUABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY OF THEM, SO I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM WHEN THEY VOTE AGAINST ME, AND I HOPE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME WHEN I VOTE AGAINST THEM.

LIKE, I DON'T I DON'T EVER SEEK TO DO THAT.

I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND THE MIDDLE, TRYING TO BE A CONSENSUS BUILDER.

AND I JUST CLOSED WITH THIS.

DURING THE CAMPAIGN PROCESS, I WENT TO TALK TO GREG JOHNSON AND EVERYBODY KNOWS GREG PLAYED FOOTBALL AND GREG GAVE ME THE PERFECT ANALOGY.

HE SAID, YOU KNOW, POLITICS IS LIKE FOOTBALL.

YOU'VE GOT TO PUT THE LAST PLAY OUT OF YOUR MIND TO FOCUS ON THE NEXT PLAY IMMEDIATELY.

YOU'VE GOT 30 SECONDS IN BETWEEN PLAYS CLEARED OUT AND LET'S MOVE ON.

SO I TRIED TO APPROACH AS A FORMER OLYMPIC LEVEL ATHLETE, I TRY TO APPROACH THINGS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE ALL THE TIME.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, WHO DON'T KNOW, I USED TO BE AN ICE DANCER, SO I THINK IT'S AWESOME.

YEAH, I ONCE I WAS AN ALTERNATE IN 2006 IN TORINO AND LIKE I FELL A BUNCH AND LIKE IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU FALL, IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT YOUR FAULT, YOU WILL FALL AGAIN.

TRUST ME, I PROMISE YOU, YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE NEXT ELEMENT, BECAUSE AS AN ICE DANCER, I'M USUALLY CARRYING A GIRL, SO I CAN'T FOCUS ON WHAT I JUST DID WRONG BECAUSE I WILL FALL AND THEN I WILL HURT HER.

THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT YOU. GOT PEOPLE DEPENDENT ON US TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

I GOT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT REAL QUICK.

BUT ULTIMATELY, IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER BECAUSE IT'S LIKE Y'ALL ARE MY FAMILY, ALL MY FRIENDS, AND I HONESTLY THINK THAT.

SO IT'S ALL IN LOVE WITH ME.

JESSE I THINK FOR ME THE KEY WAS LIKE WIN OR LOSE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET REALLY INVESTED IN THESE THINGS AND SOMETIMES WE GET REALLY INVESTED IN THINGS LIKE WHICH STREETS GET PAVED FIRST, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, BUT WE GET REALLY INVESTED IN IT.

AND THEN OTHER THINGS, EITHER OURSELVES OR FOLKS, THE CONSTITUENCY KIND OF PUSHES THAT WAY.

WE WE TEND TO PUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE WRONG EMPHASIS ON OUR DECISIONS, BUT WE TEND TO THINK THAT WE ARE UP THERE, THE SEVEN OF US MAKING.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE, SOMETIMES THEY ARE LIFE AND DEATH DECISIONS.

NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, 9.9 TIMES OUT OF TEN, IT'S A POLICY CHOICE, SIX, SIX, ONE, HALF A DOZEN.

THE OTHER INCREASES.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW TILL TEN YEARS FROM NOW IF THAT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE OR THE WRONG CHOICE.

THERE'S JUST NOT A WAY TO KNOW.

YOU JUST GOT TO DO YOUR VERY BEST AT THE MOMENT.

SO I REALLY I REALLY TRY TO FOCUS ON HUMILITY.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE I'M HEARING A LOT OF HUMILITY FROM MY COLLEAGUES TODAY.

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YOU KNOW, THAT WE REALLY LIKE WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT YOU CAN'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY BECAUSE IT'S JOBS.

NOT FOR ME. I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE.

I MIGHT GET A TATTOO OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE IT'S A PLACE IN MY CAREER TO, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE A HARD HIT IN THE COURTROOM AND NOT ABOUT YOU WASN'T IT'S NOT YOUR PROCESS IT'S YOU'RE PART OF THE PROCESS BUT THE RESULTS OUT OF YOUR HANDS.

SO FOR ME, WIN, LOSE, DRAW, HAVING THE HUMILITY TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT YOUR PLACE IS IN THE PROCESS, NONE OF US ARE THE PRESIDENT.

NONE OF US ARE IN CONGRESS.

NONE OF US ARE MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD.

NONE OF US HAVE TO CARRY THE BURDEN OF THOSE DECISIONS FOR THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD.

AND ALSO, CHRIS HAD TO SAY ABOUT YOU, IF I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW YOU SAID IT, ABOUT IF ONE SIDE'S THE ONLY ONE LIKE YOU, YOU ONLY HAVE HALF THE ANSWER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, HAVING THE HUMILITY TO KNOW THAT I WON THIS TIME, BUT I COULD STILL BE WRONG AND I MIGHT FIND OUT TOMORROW THAT I WAS REALLY, REALLY WRONG BECAUSE SOME NEW THING HAPPENS OR SOME NEW PIECE OF DATA COMES ALONG.

BUT HAVING THE HUMILITY TO KNOW THAT THE OTHER SIDE, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE, THEY GET IT RIGHT.

THANK YOU. RIGHT. NINE, NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, I NEED TO KEEP MY EARS OPEN AND LISTEN.

AND IT MIGHT BE ME THE NEXT TIME.

IT MIGHT BE ME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF.

NEXT ON. I'M GOING TO POKE THE BEAR A LITTLE BIT.

YOU EVER BEEN TO THE BEACH? AND THE WATER LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

NOT IN GALVESTON. COLORFUL.

REALLY RAPID. YOU GO TO THE BEACH AND THE WATER LOOKS GREAT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GO IN AND THERE'S A RIPTIDE THAT PULLS YOU OUT FOR THAT. AND I'M LISTENING TO YOU ALL TODAY, AND I HEAR SO MUCH AND WE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING.

YOU'RE ALL ONE IN THE SAME THING.

AND I'M TRYING TO RECONCILE THAT WITH THE COMMENTS OF THAT I HEARD YESTERDAY ABOUT DISRESPECT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO JUST PUT IN THE ROOM.

WHAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON HERE THAT BOTH OF THESE THINGS ARE TRUE? YES. YEAH. NO, IT'S IT'S STICK AROUND FOR FOR TUESDAY FOR ACCOUNTING.

BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THAT'S AS EVERYTHING THAT I'VE TOUCHED ON HINGES ON THAT WE HAVE A ABORTION ISSUE DISCUSSION THAT'S COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT THEN PUTS MY FAMILY'S LIFE IN DANGER AND I'M UPSET ABOUT IT.

THAT'S NOT A LOCAL ISSUE.

I KNOW IT. AND IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT'S COMING.

AND SO HERE'S THE PROBLEM.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON THIS DAY THAT DON'T THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT AS THE FIRST BLACK MAYOR, I GET TEXT MESSAGES AND HEAT THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

AND I SHARE IT RELUCTANTLY WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

I DON'T TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS OUR LIFE IS PREDICTABLE AND OUR ADDRESSES ARE WELL KNOWN.

IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION.

SO WHY ALL OF US ARE SITTING AT THAT DAIS ON TUESDAY? ANYBODY THAT'S UPSET ABOUT AN ABORTION ISSUE CAN GO WHERE MY WIFE AND KIDS HOME AT HOME BY THEMSELVES.

I'M UPSET BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

AND THAT SOME OUTSIDE GROUP THAT REACHED OUT FROM AUSTIN TO REACH OUT TO COUNCIL AND ARMATURE THAT REACHED OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER MCGUIRE, AND SHE'S BRINGING THE HEAT ON ALL OUR FAMILIES. AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO SUPREME COURT JUSTICES HOUSE AND THEY HAVE FEDERAL AGENTS TO GO IN OUR HOUSE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

AND SO YOU'RE GIVING PEOPLE FALSE HOPE.

YOU'RE INCITING PEOPLE THAT.

THEN WHILE WE SIT ON THE DAIS, ALL OUR FAMILIES, THE HOME ADDRESSES ARE KNOWN.

AND THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME.

SO IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOUR MEETINGS ARE YOUR BUSINESS MEETINGS.

THEY EXIST ON TUESDAY NIGHTS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

AND TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU ALLOW NATIONAL ISSUES TO COME TO YOUR LOCAL MEETINGS, YOU ARE POLITICIZING A PROCESS THAT IS ABOUT BEING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND MAKING BUSINESS DECISIONS.

AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE THIS WITH ANOTHER THING I'VE HEARD PEOPLE MENTION TWICE, WHICH IS WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE IF OAK STREET GETS PAVED FIRST OR ELM STREET OR WHATEVER THE STREETS WERE.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I REALLY HOPE THAT'S NEVER ON YOUR AGENDA, BECAUSE DECIDING WHAT STREETS TO POLITICIZING WHAT STREETS SHOULD BE PAVED FIRST IS THE OPPOSITE OF GOOD GOVERNANCE.

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THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT EXISTS SO THAT YOUR CITY ENGINEER CAN DO A PAVEMENT INDEX, FIGURE OUT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE TIME TO HIT THE STREETS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLETELY REBUILD THEM.

YOU WILL APPROPRIATE X AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR FIXING STREETS.

HOPEFULLY IT'S ENOUGH TO DO THEM EVERY YEAR SO THEY STAY AT A LEVEL.

B BUT THE DECISION OF STREETS TO PAVE SHOULD BE THE CITY ENGINEERS AND NEVER THE CITY COUNCILS.

I'M SORRY. NOW CLARIFY, HAVE YOU READ THE RESOLUTION THAT THAT THE MAYOR IS REFERRING TO? NO, I'M JUST I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT NATIONAL ISSUES AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

BUSINESS OF THE CITY. SO SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE RESOLUTION THAT WE WILL BE VOTING ON ON TUESDAY IS RELATED TO LOCAL POLICE ENFORCEMENT OF THE COMING ABORTION BAN, WHICH WILL GO INTO EFFECT ON JULY 27.

SO. SO DIRECTING THE POLICE TO NOT ENFORCE THE LAW OF THE LAND.

I'M SORRY. ARE YOU WEIGHING IN ON A POLICY? I'M ASKING IF THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DECIDING ON.

LET ME JUMP IN, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I THINK IT'S THROWN OUT HERE AS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE CONCEPT, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE POSTING WISE TO JUMP INTO THAT.

I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE IT UP NEXT WEEK.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO TELL MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL WHAT IS AND ISN'T APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BRING FORWARD.

WELL, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

THE QUESTION IS, IS IT? HELPING YOU GOVERN THIS CITY? WELL, AND THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU HAVE TO ANSWER FOR YOURSELVES.

THAT'S THE QUESTION TO YOUR POINT WITH RESPECT.

CAN I VOTE DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU AND YET STILL FEEL LIKE I RESPECT YOU? YES. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE PUT CITY STAFF IN OUR FAMILIES IN DANGER UNNECESSARILY.

SO, IN MY ESTIMATION, SO DIRECTLY RELATED AND UNRELATED WITH THE TOPIC THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON TUESDAY, CAN I VOTE DIFFERENTLY WITH YOU AND YOU STILL UNDERSTAND THAT I RESPECT YOU AND YOU RESPECT ME? YEAH. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER.

YES. NO. YOU SAID YESTERDAY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WE DON'T ALL RESPECT EACH OTHER.

THAT IS TRUE. I WANT TO KNOW, I'M TALKING THIS BRANDON, GERARD.

CAN BRANDON AND GERARD DISAGREE? AND BRETT AND I STILL HAVE RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER.

YEAH, BUT IF BRANDON MAKES DECISIONS THAT PUT MY MY FAMILY'S LIFE IN DANGER, THEN I DON'T LIKE BRANDON.

SO MY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT, AGAIN, THIS BRAND IS RAW WHITE FOLKS VOTE AGAINST US ALL THE TIME.

I DON'T SEE HOW YOU HOW CAN WE HOW CAN WE RECONCILE THAT? BECAUSE THERE ARE I DON'T SEE ALL LOOK LIKE US WHO VOTE AGAINST OUR INTEREST, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE RESPECT FOR THEM BECAUSE THIS CITY IS LIKE 70% WHITE.

HOW DO WE GET THAT? 70. IT'S MORE THAN 70%.

RIGHT. AND I'M THE FIRST BLACK MAYOR.

YES, YOU ARE. AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT WHITE FOLK, AS YOU PUT YOUR WORD, DID ME A SOLID AND GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I EARNED IT. THEY DID ME TO.

I APPRECIATE YOU. YES. SO I'M NOT THEN GOING TO BESMIRCH THEM AND SAY THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT OPEN MINDED.

THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY OPEN MINDED.

AND YOU JUST HAVE TO MESSAGE AND YOU HAVE TO COMMUNICATE AND YOU HAVE TO WORK YOUR TAIL OFF.

AND GREAT THINGS HAPPEN BY THE GRACE OF GOD.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT PEOPLE WHO ESSENTIALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU, YOU MAKE IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO RESPECT THEM AND WORK WITH THEM. I AM TRYING TO SAY WHAT HE SAID.

IT CAN'T BE SIX AND ONE HALF DOZEN.

THE OTHER WE'RE TALKING THIS IS A WASH.

IT'S ALL GOING TO COME OUT IN THE WASH.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DISAGREE BUT STILL HAVE A RELATIONSHIP.

I AGREE. AND PUTTING MY FAMILY IN DANGER IS NOT TOP OF MY LIST OF THINGS TO DO.

AS CERTAIN, I'M DOWN THE BUS RANT AND SO I'M GOING TO JUST STEP IN THE MIDDLE HERE AND PULL THIS BACK IN.

I HOPE THE BEAR GOT BIT.

SO I'M NOT TELLING YOU THIS, BUT I DID IT.

AND I. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE OF A DECISION YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ON TUESDAY NIGHT.

I DO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND PART OF THE MESSAGE OF YESTERDAY AND HOPEFULLY TODAY IS, IS WHAT GOOD GOVERNANCE DOES LOOK LIKE.

JESSE, I THINK I THINK WHAT YOU FOUND OUT BY POKING THE BEAR IS THAT THE SOME OF THE PREMISE THAT JOHN FOUNDATION THAT JOHN WAS GIVING US LAST NIGHT IS NOT UNIVERSALLY AGREED UPON.

YES. THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE A MINORITY OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A MORAL DUTY TO BE SPEAKING OUT ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, TO BE TAKING ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES, TO BE, IN MY WORDS, A BABY CONGRESS, TO BE TAKEN ON THINGS THAT BECAUSE IN THEIR VIEW, THE LEGISLATURE HAS FAILED TO ACT ON SOMETHING OR THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO ACT ON SOMETHING.

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MY VIEW IS THE MORE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE MORE BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT JOHN TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE HAVE A BROAD SCOPE ON SOME THINGS.

SO WE HAVE LOTS OF SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE DEAL WITH, BUT WE HAVE A NARROW FOCUS AND THAT IS THE CITY OF DENTON, THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF DENTON IN OUR WHEELHOUSE.

THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE BODY WHO ARE ELECTED ON THE PREMISE AND SOME THAT ARE NOT ON THE BODY ANYMORE AND SOME THAT ARE STILL HERE WHO ARE ELECTED ON THE PREMISE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THEY'RE GOING TO CARRY THE BANNER ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

AND WHEN WE GET ON THE RIGHT, WE GET IT TO THERE ARE PLENTY OF BANNERS THAT PEOPLE TRY TO THRUST INTO OUR HANDS.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, RESPECTFULLY, YOU'VE GOT A DIRECT PIPELINE TO YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE.

YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE.

YOU CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.

THE CITY CAN SEND A LETTER, WE CAN SEND A NOTE.

WE DO IT ALL THE TIME, SEND A RESOLUTION TO SAY, HERE'S HOW WE FEEL ABOUT A CERTAIN ISSUE.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S DELETERIOUS.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY DISTRACTING.

I FEEL LIKE THAT CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD, WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT IT.

AND I PROMISE YOU, I FEEL JUST AS STRONGLY ON THAT ISSUE AS SOME OTHER FOLKS IN THE ROOM.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT ISSUE HAS TO DISTRACT FROM WHAT WE ARE DOING, THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF VOICES IN THAT SPACE TALKING ABOUT IT.

THEY DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM THE CITY OF DENTON.

THEY DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM THE CITY COUNCIL OF DENTON.

YOU CAN SPEAK OUT PERSONALLY.

YOU CAN SPEAK OUT EVEN USING YOUR TITLE.

OUT IN THE WORLD WE CAN SEND A LETTER TO AUSTIN OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED US ACTIVE IN ALL OF THOSE SPACES.

THE ISSUE ON TUESDAY IS MAYBE THE HIGHEST PROFILE ONE, BUT IT'S ALSO THE ONE THAT MY OPPONENT IN MY VERY FIRST ELECTION, THREE WAY ELECTION TO FOLKS ON THE LEFT AND ME CENTER RIGHT.

AND WE ALL SAT THERE IN THE SAME FORUMS AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN SAID, THAT ISSUE'S NEVER COMING UP.

YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND. HERE'S WHAT HERE'S HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT PERSONALLY.

YOU DESERVE TO KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT AND HOW WE VOTE ON IT.

BUT WE GOT TO TELL YOU, THAT'S NOT A CITY ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED ON POLICE AND FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND CITY STUFF.

SO I THINK WHAT YOU FOUND WAS THAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL DISCONNECT ON A LOT OF THESE THINGS IS A DEFINITION OF THE ROLE AND HOW WE SPEND OUR TIME.

THE THE COMMENT THAT THAT JOHN TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY WITHIN THE DISRUPTION CONVERSATION AND ONE OF THE DISRUPTIVE TRENDS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE DEALING WITH AND I THINK DISRUPTION IS A GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE IT BECAUSE IT IS DISRUPTING EVEN THIS GROUP TODAY.

IT IS NATIONAL ISSUES BEING TAKEN TO THE LOCAL ISSUES.

WE USED TO SAY ALL POLITICS WERE LOCAL.

WE TAKE CARE OF THINGS. NOW IT'S ALL POLITICS OR NATIONAL, AND IT'S A BRANDING OF COLOR, IF YOU WILL.

WHEN PEOPLE TAKE TAKE UP THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.

AND SO TO STEP BACK AND THINK, HOW IS IT IMPACT THE CITY? WHAT'S OUR ROLE? IS THIS AN ISSUE? WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR VALID QUESTIONS TO ASK.

AND YOU COME TO THE DECISION THAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU.

I THINK I WANT TO REMIND US OF SOMETHING ELSE JOHN SAID, THOUGH, AND I THINK WE ALL RESONATED WITH IT, IS IS IF YOU IGNORE THE VARIOUS PRINCIPALS FOR TOO LONG, THEY COME BACK TO BITE YOU.

AND THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL TONE OF THAT'S THAT'S NOT OUR BUSINESS.

THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE.

THAT FUNDAMENTAL TONE IS INHERENTLY IGNORING AND KICKING THE CAN ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE AS COUNCIL MAGUIRE AND COUNCIL RIKKI SAID, THESE ARE LOCAL VARIANTS OF THESE ISSUES.

ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL AND ALL POLITICS ARE NATIONAL BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS A A ISSUES THAT GO UP AND DOWN THE SCALE.

SO OUR LOCAL CIVIC CENTER SWIMMING POOL, THAT IS OUR ISSUE AND HOW WE FUND IT.

AND WHAT IS THE FEE STRUCTURE OF THAT? THAT IS THE TRADITIONAL ROLE, BUT THE SORT OF YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE ISSUES OF THE EQUITY OF WHO GETS TO USE THE POOL.

WHO GETS TO WHO GETS TO AFFORD THE POOL? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO OUR CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND OUR OTHER STRATEGIC PLANS AND GOALS? WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THE FEE STRUCTURE AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE GOING TO IGNORE ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT CONTINUE TO KICK THEM DOWN BECAUSE THEN THEY THEY INFLATE, THEY FESTER, THEY GROW.

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE GOT 5050 SPLITS ON THE SENATE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THESE STUPID ISSUES THAT WE WILL NOT ADDRESS.

AND IT'S BECAUSE WE SAY, OH, THAT'S NOT OF OUR SIZE SCALE.

WE'RE AT A DIFFERENT SIZE TO GET ALL THE SCALES ACROSS AND ALL THE THINGS.

AND IT IS IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MAY SAY WE DON'T HAVE MUCH IMPACT ON THIS OR WE DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR ROLE. BUT WE JOHN WAS REALLY THAT RESONATED WITH ME STRONGLY.

YOU CAN'T IGNORE THOSE ISSUES FOREVER.

YES, VERY, VERY BRIEFLY.

I THINK I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING BRIAN HAS SAID.

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I THINK I FUNDAMENTALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING BRIAN JUST SAID, THAT THE THING THAT BECOMES FRUSTRATING FOR ME IS WHEN WE TAKE ACTION THAT WE KNOW EITHER WILL NOT HAVE AN IMPACT OR IS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO SEND A MESSAGE AND TO TELL CERTAIN PEOPLE, DON'T WORRY, WE'RE ON THE SAME SIDE.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT BECOME FRUSTRATING FOR ME OR WHEN WHEN WE'RE TOLD BY OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN WORK IN THIS SPACE.

FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE ONE ONE RESOLUTION THAT TURNED INTO A LETTER TO AUSTIN THAT THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS FOLKS DRAFTED FOR US.

BECAUSE IN THAT CONTEXT, BECAUSE THE TIMING OF THINGS THAT BECAME THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THAT BECAME THE WAY TO EXPRESS OURSELVES.

WHAT GETS FRUSTRATING FOR ME IS WHEN WE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE INFLAMMATORY, WHEN WE PRETEND THE POLICY, WHEN WE WHEN WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT UP IN THE CLOTHES, DRESS IT UP IN THE TRAPPINGS OF POLICY AS THIS IS THE CITY TAKING ACTION WHEN WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY OR THAT ACTION ACTUALLY ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO AFFECT.

YES. I JUST THINK JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE CITY, IT'S KNOW IT'S A GROWING CITY.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIND OUR WAY.

I THINK OF OUR CITIES.

HE'S NOT A PRETEEN, BUT LET'S SAY A 17 YEAR OLD IS GETTING READY TO MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS, STILL HAVING PIMPLES, STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF BEING ADULTS HERE AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, AS WE AS WE GROW OUT TO OUR FATHER'S FURTHEST BOUNDARY LINES, AND THAT'S A LONG TIME, WE ALREADY HAVE A 2040 PLAN TO TRY TO GET US THERE.

AND SO BUT I THINK THAT WHEN WE ARE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AS A AS A DAIS, WE ALWAYS WANT OUR CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE.

WE'RE SUPPORT A GROUP OF PEOPLE.

AND AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S NOT PERSONAL WITH ME, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE.

I CAN SAY YES TO A NUMBER OF THINGS.

AND I CAN AND I CAN RELATE TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, I'M A WOMAN.

I MAY HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO TO MAKE A DECISION FOR MY OWN BENEFIT.

AND THAT THAT THAT MEANS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I CAN FEEL YOU.

I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

THAT IS WHY I WOULD SAY A RESOLUTION OF SOME SORT IS A LEVEL OF SUPPORT.

EVERYBODY IS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THAT POSITION.

IF I WAS IN THAT POSITION AND I WAS 17 YEARS OLD AND I DECIDED I WANTED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP AND I MADE A DECISION THAT WASN'T GOOD FOR ME, THAT MEANS THAT I'VE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE.

ALLOW ME TO SAY THAT.

I GOT THAT.

I'LL UNDERSTAND YOU.

I WILL SUPPORT YOU, WHATEVER THAT TAKES.

AND IF IT DOES NOT GO MY WAY, I'M OK OK.

SO. HAVING THAT, SAYING ALL OF THAT AND INCLUDING JESSE JESSE'S IS WE DO REALLY WELL TOGETHER SAY THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO SAY THAT NATIONAL ISSUES ARE STATE ISSUES ARE LOCAL ISSUES BECAUSE WE'RE ALL HERE TOGETHER.

WE'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON IT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

MEANWHILE, WE CAN CALL OUR POLICE CHIEF AND ASK WHOEVER IT TAKES TO REMOVE ALL OF OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM WHEREVER IT IS WHERE PEOPLE CAN FIND US.

I'VE ALREADY HAD TO DO THAT.

WE SOMEBODY SENT A REALLY NASTY EMAIL LETTER TO THE CITY IN REGARDS TO OUR FACE MANDATE, AND I DID NOT WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE I LIVE.

REMOVE MY MY ADDRESS FROM EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO.

I HAD TO ASK THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE. YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW.

IT'S FRUSTRATING. I'M NOT.

YEAH, WELL, I GUESS I GUESS WHEN I AS I'VE LISTENED TO EVERYONE, CAN'T DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF SAID BUT I REMEMBER THE ORG CHART THAT WAS PUT UP AND I SAW THE COUNCIL'S SPHERE OF INFLUENCE DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES. AND SO I'M VERY HESITANT.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT ISSUES.

I GET THAT TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S ANOTHER TO SEND A MESSAGE TO PARTICULAR PARTS OF OUR STAFF THAT SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DIRECT YOU TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW AS A PROFESSIONAL TO MAKE DECISIONS IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

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AND I JUST DO NOT DO THAT, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY SO WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE, THE NATIONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL HAVE VERY DEEPLY PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT.

AND THAT'S OK WHEN IT COMES TO DIRECTING SPECIFICALLY FROM THE DAIS.

EMPLOYEES TO DO THINGS OR NOT TO DO THINGS, IT COULD VERY EASILY BE A VIOLATION OF THE LAW THEMSELVES WITH NO DISCUSSION.

SEE, THIS IS MY ISSUE.

THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION.

THIS IS THE MOST WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE, PARTICULARLY THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S ALL POSTING SINCE IT'S BEEN SO.

SO IT'S THE I UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.

I TALK ABOUT IT AND I JUST SEE IT ALL.

I SEE IT ALL PREJUDICE.

IN FACT, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MCGUIRE HAD A GREAT COMMENT AND SHE SAID, THIS RESOLUTION ISN'T ABOUT LEGALIZING ABORTION.

AND DENTON WHAT IT'S ABOUT IS TELLING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO, AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO DEFUND YOU IN THOSE EFFORTS IF YOU DO THEM.

SO THAT'S THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

CAN I JUST TALK ABOUT THE GAP REAL QUICK? I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ISSUE.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ISSUE. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE ISSUE.

BUT HE BROUGHT UP SOMETHING TO ME THAT'S TROUBLING.

IF WE DISAGREE, I STILL WANT TO FIND A WAY SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE YOUR LIFE AND YOUR FAMILY IS IN DANGER.

BUT I'LL SIT OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE ALL NIGHT.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE COUNCIL.

ME? I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHAT I. I WANT US ALL TO HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACK THROUGH THE GAP.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE ISSUE IS LIKE.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW I MIGHT DISAGREE, BUT I GOT YOU.

AND I HOPE YOU FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT ME, BECAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE GAP THAT I'M TRYING TO BRIDGE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

I HOPE WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THROUGH IT AGAIN.

CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING? OH, PLEASE. SO, SO.

SO HERE'S THE THING.

YOU ALL ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT, AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS ON THE VERY THING THAT YOU ALL AGREE ON WITH VALUES AND RESPECT IS THE VERY THING YOU NEED TO BRING TO THE TABLE ON THAT DIET TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.

THAT GETS TO THE POINT OF WHETHER YOU'RE AND THIS IS THE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE REALLY SAID IS FROM A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, AS A STAFF MEMBER, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHERE I STAND ON THIS TOPIC FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT.

WE HAVE TO POINT OUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE.

IF IF SOMEONE IS DIRECTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT COULD BREAK THE LAW DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENED AND THE UPROAR THAT'S HAPPENING WITH ROE VERSUS WADE.

I JUST WANT, I THINK, THE TIME TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, THE TIME TO REALLY COME TO SOME RESOLUTION THAT MEETS MAY MEET THE INTENT OF WE'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS ISN'T GOOD, THIS ISN'T GOOD.

WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WHATEVER IS ON THAT DAIS TO MASSAGE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, BUT IT SENDS THE MESSAGE.

AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE MEMO THAT WENT DOWN TO AUSTIN.

THAT'S WHERE IT ALL SHOULD BE DISCUSSED.

AND THAT'S WHERE WHEN THE VOTE IS TAKEN, IT'S OVER.

AND HOW COULD YOU BUILD COMMUNITY ON THIS? I MEAN, MAYBE THINK IF THE GOAL ULTIMATELY FOR YOU ALL IS TO BUILD THIS AND MAINTAIN, FOSTER, DEVELOP, ENCOURAGE THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT WAS ON ABOUT 20 STICKY NOTES YESTERDAY.

HOW CAN YOUR ACTIONS DO THAT? AND MAYBE THAT'S THE GO FORWARD WITH WHAT COULD WE DO THAT DOESN'T FURTHER DIVIDE BUT ACTUALLY BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A BREAK FOR 10 MINUTES, CLEAN MY SHOES, AND WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.

THAT'S FINE. OKAY.

G, LET'S TALK ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.

WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS DO YOU WANT TO HAVE WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES ON CITY COUNCIL? I WILL FLOWER THE CHOCOLATE.

I WANT SOMEBODY TO BUY ME DINNER.

WHAT KIND OF FLOWERS? I'M FROM KANSAS.

I LIKE SOME FLOWERS. YOU BUYS SOME FLOWERS? LIKE SOME FLOWERS? I LIKE ITALIAN MEATBALLS, BOBBY.

THANK YOU. UNDER 40 99900 AMAZON.

CALL ME. WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP? WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO YOU WANT TO HAVE WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THIS GOVERNING BODY? I WOULD SAY THAT YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO LIKE ME, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO RESPECT ME.

WHAT DOES RESPECT LOOK LIKE? RESPECT LOOKS LIKE NOT TALKING WHILE I'M TALKING.

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DON'T TALK OVER ME.

WE'LL DO THE SAME. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OPINION.

I'LL HAVE MINE. WE CAN FIND THE COMMONALITY.

AND WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.

SO NOT TALKING OVER.

DISAGREE GLIBLY.

YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S RESPECT. CHRIS, WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO YOU WANT TO HAVE IN SECOND AGAIN? THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

SEE, I CAN'T NOW. I CAN'T EVEN.

IT'S NOT MY FAULT. NO.

YEAH. NO, IT'S NOT.

WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO I WANT TO HAVE WITH MY COLLEAGUES? I THINK IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, LIKE ANY OTHER RELATIONSHIP OUT AND ABOUT.

I MEAN, THE RELATIONSHIP WILL FIND ITS LEVEL.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT NEEDS TO BE PROFESSIONAL.

I WANT TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL BODY AND WE'RE A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THOUGHT EXPERIENCE.

AND SO THE PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP TO ME IS YOU RESPECT THOSE DIFFERENCES.

YOU CAN DISAGREE.

YOU CAN, AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER USED TO SAY, I DON'T LIKE THIS TERM, BUT HE USED TO SAY, WELL, WE CAN VIOLENTLY DISAGREE, NOT PHYSICALLY VIOLENT, BUT STILL HAVE THAT MUTUAL RESPECT.

AS A PROFESSIONAL.

I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I PUT IT IN TERMS OF WHETHER I NEED TO LIKE OR DISLIKE SOMEONE.

A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WILL DEVELOP ON ITS OWN.

FIRST AND FOREMOST. TO ME, IT'S A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP, AND IF SOMETHING DEVELOPS AFTER THAT OR DURING THAT, THAT'S BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND IF THERE'S COMMONALITY, IF THERE'S COMMON INTEREST IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT LIKE VICKIE SAID, DISRESPECT DON'T TALK OVER NO NECESSARILY PERSONAL ATTACKS.

YOU CAN QUESTION HELP ME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH THAT SO I CAN HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S JUST A RELATIONSHIP THAT IS YOU LEAD BY EXAMPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE WATCH.

AND I THINK WHAT WE REFLECT ON THE DAY IS CAN VERY EASILY BE REFLECTED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

I THINK I'M BIG ON OVER TALKING, SO I THINK I WON'T THIS TIME.

I THINK I SHARE A LOT OF THAT.

I THINK IT'S A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP AND I'LL DOUBLE DOWN ON IF THERE'S ANY INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT DEVELOP OR HAVE COME IN TO THE BODY BEFOREHAND.

THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THEY IT'S FROSTING ON THE CUPCAKE, BUT THE CAKE ITSELF NEEDS TO BE A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOOD COMMUNICATION.

JESSE I AGREE WITH ALL THAT.

I THINK NOT TO REPLY YESTERDAY'S TREND, BUT I THINK TRUST IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

CHRIS USED THE WORD AUTHENTICITY EARLIER THAT THAT I CAN TRUST.

MAYBE EVEN EXPECTATION COMES INTO TO THAT.

THAT'S COOL. I CAN I CAN TRUST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT NOT CHANGING YOUR MIND BECAUSE FACTS CHANGE AND YOU GET UP THERE AND YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW AND MAYBE YOUR MIND DOESN'T CHANGE.

BUT I CAN I CAN TRUST THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE PERSON THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE THINGS YOU SAID, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND FOLLOW THE PROCESS. AND I CAN TRUST THAT WE'RE ALL FOLLOWING THE SAME RULES.

THAT'S THE KIND OF TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP THAT I'M INTERESTED IN.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TRUST FALLS AND YOU'RE THE BEST MAN ON MY SECOND WEDDING AND WHATEVER.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ONE. ON THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THERE WAS A FUNNIER JOKE IN MY HEAD WHEN IT CAME OUT.

IT'S KIND OF FUNNY. AS LONG AS YOU'RE ON LIVE STREAM, THIS IS RECORDED, SO.

ALL RIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THE KIND OF TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES CHOCOLATE FLOWERS AND ITALIAN FOOD UNDER 49.99? YEAH, I THINK I DISAGREE WITH ALL FOUR OF MY COLLEAGUES SO FAR.

YOU DISAGREE? I DISAGREE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO RESPECT YOUR.

I'M NOT TRYING TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU ALL.

I DIDN'T GET ELECTED FOR THAT.

I THINK I'M THE DIFFERENT ONE HERE.

I DIDN'T GET ELECTED TO DO THAT.

IF I WANTED MORE COLLEAGUES, I'D JUST TAKE ANOTHER ASSIGNMENT AT WORK.

I'M NOT LOOKING TO WORK AS CAUSE I'M LOOKING TO WORK AT THEM.

I TOLD THEM LIKE, I'M DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

THERE IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF RELATIONSHIP THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, WHICH ARE.

SO IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR JUST PROFESSIONALISM FOR ME, YOU BUMP THAT AT THE DOOR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT FROM ME.

IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY FORM A DEEP AND VALUABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH ME, COME ON, I'M OPEN.

BUT I'M NOT JUST TRYING TO BE YOUR COLLEAGUES.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT WITH EVERYBODY.

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IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE MY FRIEND, MY FAMILY, DON'T HOLLER.

DO THEY GET RESPECT ALSO AND FRIENDSHIP? LIKE, IS IT YOU CAN YOU GET PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECT AND FAMILY? OR IS IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE FAMILY, YOU DON'T GET PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECT.

FOR ME, PROFESSIONAL RESPECT IS THE FLOOR.

THAT'S THE BEST OF MY FAMILY.

MY ENTIRE ELEVATOR FAMILY HERE.

ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO YOU WANT TO HAVE WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE GOVERNING BODY? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER MY QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. HAS EVERYBODY GONE EXCEPT FOR THE MAN? CAN I GO LAST? YOU MEAN IF THEY ARE WILLING TO GO? SURE. YEAH. NO, I WAS GOOD.

GOOD DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF THAT.

I THINK REALLY, BECAUSE I NEED EVERYONE TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO VOTE THE WAY THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO VOTE.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS FOR ME IS I HAVE TO GUARD MYSELF, RIGHT? I DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING FROM MY PEERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FREEDOM TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

AND THAT SHOULDN'T AFFECT MY FEELINGS.

MY FEELINGS AND HOW MY RESPECT FOR MYSELF ARE MY RESPONSIBILITY IF I ALLOW SOMEONE ELSE TO CONTROL MY FEELINGS.

I'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT AWAY AND I REFUSE TO DO THAT.

SO THAT IS THE AS THE KIND OF THE BASELINE FOR ME AND THEN UNDERSTANDING WE'RE GOING TO DISAGREE ON ITEMS. THAT'S WHY I DON'T TALK TO PEOPLE BEFORE VOTES, BECAUSE IF I TALK TO YOU TUESDAY AND THE MEETINGS NEXT TUESDAY AND YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, YOU DON'T OWE ME ANYTHING.

YOU DON'T OWE ME AN EXPLANATION.

YOU'VE NOW RECEIVED NEW INFORMATION THAT'S CAUSED YOU TO PIVOT ON SOMETHING.

AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A YES WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU END UP BEING A NO OR NO.

I JUST I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE AUTONOMY.

SO I THINK IF WE'RE AGAIN, MY MY FOCUS IS ON CITIZENS, NOT THE DATA DAY.

IF THE CITIZENS SELECT THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL IS RESPONSIVE TO THE CITIZENS, IT WILL REFLECT THE CITY I LIVE IN WHICH I LIKE VERY MUCH, AND IT REFLECT THE CULTURE WHICH I LIKE VERY MUCH SO FROM A EXPECTATION OF MY PEERS.

IT'S JUST I THINK JESSE HIT IT, HIT IT, SPOT ON.

IT'S THAT TRUST.

AND JUST WHEN YOU SAY WHEN WE HIRE A CONSULTANT AND WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO FIX THE STREETS SO THAT WE CAN ACT UPON IT.

WHEN THAT CONSULTANT COMES BACK, I EXPECT MY PEERS TO THEN HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND TRUST THAT.

OC WE PAID THIS PERSON TO DO SOMETHING.

WE GAVE THEM THE SCOPE OF WORK.

THEY'VE NOW PRODUCED THE SCOPE OF WORK.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO ACT UPON IT, NOT PULL A SNOOPY AND MOVE THE FOOTBALL.

RIGHT. IT'S LIKE NONE OF US, YOU SEE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

SO BUT THE SHOW.

YES. AND CHARLIE BROWN.

SO SO YEAH. IT'S LIKE THAT'S THAT'S THE THING.

IT'S LIKE, HEY, DON'T WE WE TEED UP THE FOOTBALL.

WE'RE HOLDING IT. THEY BROUGHT IT BACK.

LET'S KICK IT. NOT KNOW.

WELL, WE GOT TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

RIGHT? WHAT'S ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT VOTE AND WE'VE GIVEN DIRECTION, WE'RE LOCKED IN BEFORE DIRECTION.

GREAT. AND SO THAT'S REALLY JUST A SO I'LL BOIL IT DOWN TO THIS PREDICTABILITY, RIGHT? ONCE WE GIVE DIRECTION, YOU CAN'T THEN GO VACILLATE WILDLY.

THAT'S WHAT THAT HELPS ME AS.

BUT THE RESPECT, FEELINGS, ALL THAT.

I MEAN, I. OH, THAT MEANS.

RIGHT. I'M IN CHARGE OF THAT FOR ME.

LIKE, I DON'T I'M JESSE'S NEVER GOING TO CONTROL MY FEELINGS.

I DON'T TRUST HIM. YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, RIGHT? I JUST. YOU HAVE TO RESPECT FEELINGS.

ALL THAT. THAT'S THAT THAT THAT YOU CAN FEEL DISRESPECT.

NO, I MEAN, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTATION RIGHT NOW.

YOU GOT. YEAH. I JUST DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF ANYTHING FROM ANYONE.

YOU JUST READ IT AS IT HAPPENS.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE LIVE IN THE MOMENT.

HEY, THIS JUST HAPPENED NOW.

WHAT IS THAT? THERE'S NEW DATA JUST COMING IN AT EVERY POINT AND YOU JUST KIND OF PIVOT AS IT COMES IN BY INVERSE.

THAT'S TRUE WITH WITH BELABORED A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL SAY WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO FALL ON AN ISSUE BEFORE BEFORE WE AND I NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE I WANT THE CITIZEN THAT COMES THAT I TALKED TO A MONTH BEFORE THE VOTE AND THE CITIZEN THERE IS LIVE IN THE DAIS TO UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO COMPEL ME EXACTLY WHAT MAYOR WATTS TALKED TO, TOUCHED ON, AND ONE SET OF FACTS AWAY FROM BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF AN ISSUE.

RIGHT. AND SO I HAVE YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT.

AND THAT JUST COMES FROM ME BEING STANDING AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DAIS AND FEELING IT, KNOWING WHEN I COME TO THE DAIS AND SOMEONE'S ALREADY SAID WHERE THEY FALL ON SOMETHING,

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WHY AM I EVEN HERE? RIGHT, AS A CITIZEN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN GO OUT AND.

I SUPPOSE SO, YEAH.

AS FOR I RELATIONSHIP THAT I WANT TO HAVE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, A RELATIONSHIP THAT I EXPECT TO HAVE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

THE IDEALIST IN ME SAYS WHAT YOU WANT AND EXPECT.

I HOPE TO DO THE SAME THINGS YOU SAY.

CAN YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED FROM OTHER PEOPLE? I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE SAME THING AT ALL.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER WHAT I WHAT I WANT.

BE HONEST ABOUT YOUR TRUST WALL.

YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I RESPECT.

AND I LOVE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS SAID EARLIER ABOUT DEALING.

ABOUT WHAT COULD YOU CLAIM DEALING WITH PLAIN DEALING.

I'LL BE I'LL BE FRANK THAT WHEN I AM LISTENING TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK, I HAVE A META ANALYSIS GOING ON IN MY BRAIN THE WHOLE TIME WONDERING WHAT DO THEY REALLY MEAN? WHAT'S THEIR REAL MOTIVATION FOR SAYING THIS? WHAT'S THE ACTUAL GOAL HERE? AND I WOULD I WOULD LOVE IT IF I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I HAD TO DO THAT.

WHAT ABOUT THE UP A LITTLE BIT HERE? ALLOW ME TO SPEAK. I WILL ALLOW YOU SPEAK FOR ME.

AND I AM GOING TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR.

BY THE WAY, THE SPEAKER'S BACKING AWAY SO YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT EACH OTHER.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF HE'S SPEAKING WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR IN THE VERY SAME TYPE OF MEETING LAST YEAR.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS, KNOW, AS I'M SPEAKING TO YOU AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO SAY THIS AS SIMPLY AS I CAN.

WHAT HAPPENS IS IS IS THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF GASLIGHTING AFTER A MEETING, AFTER WE VOTE, BECAUSE HE'S SAYING THAT HE DOESN'T VACILLATE ON ON ON THE VOTE AFTERWARDS, BUT HE ACTUALLY DOES.

HE WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AFTER WE'VE VOTED AND HE WILL LITERALLY TELL THE PEOPLE.

I DIDN'T VOTE THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WELL, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T AGREE WITH ANY OF THAT.

AND SO AND I'VE ASKED HIM NOT TO DO THAT.

LET'S JUST GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT POINT OF WHATEVER'S NEXT ON THE AGENDA.

WE DON'T NEED FOR YOU TO TELL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT THIS WASN'T YOUR VOTE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER AT THIS POINT AFTER WE VOTED.

THE VOTE IS THE VOTE.

NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

BUT HE GASLIGHTS AND HE VACILLATES THE ISSUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOW THAT THIS IS AND I DON'T KNOW WHO HE'S SPEAKING TO, BUT THE PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOWS THAT HE DID NOT AGREE WITH THAT.

THEY CAN SEE THAT.

THEY CAN SEE WHERE HE VOTED.

AND BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO HE'S TALKING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY HE HAS TO DO THAT.

WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED THAT AND WE'VE SEEN HIM AND WE'VE TOLD HIM, SIR, YOU'RE GASLIGHTING.

AND SO THAT IS WHAT SOME OF THE CONTENTION IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTENTIOUS SITUATIONS, IT IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.

BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHO HE IS.

WELL, BUT YOU'RE ALSO SAYING IT'S NOT OKAY AND THIS IS OKAY WITH ME PERSONALLY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT OKAY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS OUT THERE THAT'S SAYING THAT, HEY, HE'S GASLIGHTING.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY IMPORTANT PERSPECTIVE ON WHEN A DECISION IS MADE OR NOT, WHAT YOU EXPECT OF YOUR COLLEAGUES. SO THERE'S A THERE IS A LOT OF TIMES THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION AND A LOT OF GOVERNING BODIES WILL HAVE A GROUND RULE THAT ONCE THE VOTE IS TAKEN, THE BODY SUPPORTS THE MAJORITY, THAT THAT'S THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER A DECISION IS MADE.

AND WHEN THE MAYOR HAS A RESPONSIBILITY, AS OFTEN AS JOHN TALKED ABOUT FACILITATING AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THAT, THE MAYOR MAY DISAGREE WITH THE MAJORITY AND YET STILL MIGHT HAVE THIS RESPONSIBILITY TO TO STATE WHAT THE MAJORITY'S OPINION IS

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WHEN YOU USE THESE TERMS. AND I AND SOMEONE MENTIONED GASLIGHTING EARLIER.

I WOULD LOVE I'D LOVE YOU ALL TO JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT IS GASLIGHTING MEAN TO YOU? WHAT DOES VACILLATING MEAN? KIND OF MAYBE EXPLAIN THAT OR GIVE US AN EXAMPLE SO THAT WE'RE ALL CLEAR WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

GASLIGHTING FOR ME MEANS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING THIS.

BOTH OF YOU ARE RALLYING UP YOUR WHOEVER IT IS IS YOU'RE MAKING THIS CONVERSATION TO.

YOU'RE RALLYING THEM UP TO KNOW THAT I DID NOT VOTE FOR THAT.

SO THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME PERSONALLY.

INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, OKAY, WE VOTED ON THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.

IT TAKES IT TO A PERSONAL LEVEL.

AND THEN AT SOME POINT ALONG THE WAY, HE HAS TO REMIND SOMEBODY OUT THERE IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD THAT I AM THE BLACK GUY OUT HERE ON THE BOARD AND I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT YOU'VE SEEN OUT HERE.

HE DOES THAT QUITE OFTEN TO REMIND THE CITIZENS THAT HE'S A BLACK MAN.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITIZENS VOTED FOR HIM BECAUSE HE'S A BLACK DID.

THEY VOTED FOR HIM BECAUSE HE WAS.

THE WINNER. HE IS A WINNER.

AND SO TO TO TO DO THAT, THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO THAT HE NEEDS TO BE REMINDED OF.

MIND YOU, I'VE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION.

WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION LAST YEAR IN OUR RETREAT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

PEOPLE APPRECIATE YOU.

YOU'RE OKAY.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE FINE.

YOU'RE A GREAT MAYOR.

YOU ARE YOU ARE THE MAYOR.

YOU ARE YOU ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS CITY.

WE RESPECT YOU FOR THAT.

BUT TO BE ABLE TO AFTER WE'VE TAKEN THE VOTE, IT DIDN'T GO HIS WAY.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS.

OH, I DIDN'T VOTE THAT WAY.

YOU ALL RE REMINDED OF THAT.

THAT'S WHAT GASLIGHTING IS.

SEVERAL OTHERS ARE USING THE TERM GASLIGHTING.

JESSE. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT HOW I'M USING THE TERM.

I HEAR THE TERM GASLIGHTING AND I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S ONE OF THOSE WORDS THAT KIND OF GOT OUT THERE AND GETS USE A LOT INAPPROPRIATELY SOMETIMES.

AND SOMETIMES WHEN I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THE TERM DEMEAN MOST OFTEN IS LIKE IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.

SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO CONVINCE THE OTHER PARTY THROUGH A SERIES OF INTERACTIONS THAT THE FACTS THEY LIVE UNDER ARE NOT ACTUALLY THE FACTS.

THEY DON'T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE WORLD AROUND THEM, THAT THINGS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE FACTS HOW THE FACTS ARE PRESENTED.

ARE YOU SAYING GRANDSTANDING? MAYBE I'M SAYING WHAT HE'S SAYING IS WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT THE FACTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY REALLY ARE.

PEOPLE. I HAVE VOTED THIS WAY AND THE FACTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY WHAT THE VOTE IS.

THE FACTS ARE DIFFERENT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

AND I'M SPEAKING YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK HE'S GRANDSTANDING.

I THINK THAT THIS WAS JUST GRANDSTANDING.

I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I THINK THE GASLIGHTING IS IS IS PUSHING OUT THIS THIS THIS THIS SITUATION, PUSHING IT OUT TO SOMEONE THAT HE NEEDS TO SPEAK TO AND TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM THAT, NO, I'M I'M NOT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. AND YOUR VOTE TELLS THAT STORY.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND REITERATE TO ANYBODY FOR THAT.

THE MAYOR NOT RESTATE HIS OPPOSITION WHEN HE'S ON THE DISSENTING SIDE OF A DECISION BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

THAT'S NOT TO DO THIS. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING NEW.

I'M JUST SAYING, YES, THIS IS WHAT I APPRECIATE.

YES. NOT TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S IN MY HEAD GASLIGHTING.

OKAY, MAN. YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHEN THAT HAPPENED.

WE VOTE ON THE SCREEN AND THEN I CALL THE NEXT ITEM.

SO I JUST DON'T. I'M NOT CLEAR WITH THAT.

WE DON'T. THERE'S FOR YOU TO HAVE AN EXAMPLE.

YEAH. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION.

AND THE CITY MANAGER, CITY SECRETARY, YOU WATCH THE MEETINGS, THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION.

AFTER YOU VOTE. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION.

YEAH. SO THAT EXAMPLE IS PATENTLY INACCURATE.

AND IF AND I WOULD ASK FOR ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT HAPPENING AND IT DOESN'T EXIST.

MAY I RESPOND.

I'M SO EXCITED, SO SPECIAL.

HERE IS I AGREE THAT COUNCILMEMBER BIRD MIGHT MIGHT HAVE MISSPOKEN SIMPLY IN TERMS OF THE DETAILS OF THE

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INCIDENTS THAT SHE'S REFERRING TO.

BUT I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT INCIDENTS SHE'S REFERRING TO WHEN IT HAPPENS MOST FREQUENTLY IS IN WORK SESSIONS, NOT WHEN WE'RE VOTING ON AN ITEM, BUT WHEN WE HAVE EACH GIVEN OUR DIRECTION IN A WORK SESSION.

AND THE MAYOR TENDS TO GO LAST.

AND HE DOES OFTEN TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY ONCE HE KNOWS THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY SAID THEIR PIECE AND NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.

THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THESE INCIDENTS THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER IS REFERRING TO TYPICALLY HAPPEN.

SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT, RIGHT? A WORK SESSION WHEN YOU'RE GIVING DIRECTION AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE DIRECTION VERSUS AFTER A VOTE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WHOLE PROBLEM, RIGHT? THAT'S. THAT'S. IT'S INACCURATE STATEMENT ONE AND IN TO IT.

I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS THAT I DON'T INTERRUPT THEM.

I DON'T STOP THEM FROM SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS.

I DON'T TAKE ISSUE WITH THEIR THOUGHTS.

IT IS COMMON FOR THE MAYOR TO SPEAK LAST, AND THAT IS THAT IS KIND OF A NORM IN A LOT OF PLACES.

SO NOT REALLY APPLICABLE.

IF I MIGHT, I GOT A HAND HERE AND THEN I WILL CALL ON YOU.

SO VICKI, WHAT SHOULD HE BE DOING INSTEAD? I HEARD YOU SAY WHAT? YEAH, I HEARD YOU SAY WHAT? HE'S DOING BAD. WHAT SHOULD HE BE DOING? WELL. WELL, I THINK.

AND HE DOES THIS.

HE DOES THIS AFTER WE TAKE THE VOTE.

THE VOTE IS 7 TO 0 OR WHATEVER IT IS.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SIDE.

HE DOES THAT. WHAT ABOUT IF IT'S FOR THE MOST PART AND ACTUALLY HE'S GOTTEN BETTER OVER THE YEAR? I THINK HE'S EARNED US SINCE LAST YEAR.

WHEN HE GETS ON THIS NOTATION AND IT HAPPENS AFTER THE VOTE, IF IT DOESN'T GO HIS WAY, HE WILL REMIND THE CITY THAT HE, AS PART OF THE GASLIGHTING SITUATION, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WILL REMIND THE CITY THAT HE'S A BLACK THE FIRST BLACK MAYOR, AND HIS PICTURE IS OUT ON THE WALL AND HE'S THIS AND HE'S THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT GETS FAIRLY PERSONAL SOMETIMES.

AND SO, AGAIN, I'M JUST CALLING IT OUT SO WE CAN GET BETTER AND BETTER AT WHAT WE DO IS JUST CALL THE NEXT ITEM, JUST CALL THE NEXT ITEM.

AND WHETHER OR NOT THE MAYOR HAS A PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK PRIOR TO THE VOTE, THIS EXCELLENT MAYOR SPEAKING AFTER THE VOTE AND TELLING THE CONSTITUENTS THAT I DIDN'T VOTE THAT WAY.

SO THAT'S NOT WORK.

SESSIONS NOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE DAY I SEE THAT BEFORE AGAIN, I WILL SAY THAT HE'S GOTTEN MUCH BETTER ABOUT DOING THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE I WANT TO FIRST I WANT TO PREFACE THIS WITH I DO THINK THAT THE MAYOR HAS GROWN INTO BEING MAYOR AND I'VE SEEN HIM IMPROVE. AND I DO THINK IT IS HIS RIGHT AND PURVIEW, ACTUALLY, ANY MAYOR TO TO BRING UP ALL THE THE VIEWS AS AS THEY WERE HEARD AND PROVIDE SORT OF THE CONSENSUS OF THE DISCUSSION.

I THINK THAT'S ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE.

HE CHOSE TO DO THAT.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE HEARING FROM SOME OF US, THOUGH, IS DURING THAT, WHETHER IT'S IN WORK SESSIONS OR WHETHER IT'S AT A VOTE WHEN HE IS CONSOLIDATING THE DISCUSSION AT THE END OF YOUR VOTE OR BEFORE DIRECTION, I'M SORRY, BUT THERE IS A WHOLE SCALE RECITATION OF ALTERNATIVE POINTS OF VIEW AND FACTS AND PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLE'S MOUTH THAT HAPPEN THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE.

AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AN OBJECTION TO, IS NOT THAT HE'S SUMMARIZING.

THAT HAS TO BE DONE, NOT THAT YOU DON'T LOSE SOME NUANCE AND FINESSE DURING THAT PARAPHRASING, BUT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU REWRITE COMPLETELY THE NARRATIVE THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS ON SO AND SO I'M GOING TO JUST LET YOUR WORK SESSIONS.

SARAH DO YOU TEND TO SAY OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I HEARD THE COUNCIL SAY AND STAFF WILL BE BRINGING THIS BACK.

I WILL DO THAT, PARTICULARLY IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR APPLICABLE IN SOME CASES.

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IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A DIRECTION FOR US TO HAVE TO TAKE ACTION, BUT WHEN IT IS, YES, I DO.

AND SO AND I THIS IS REALLY LIKE AN ORDER OF BUSINESS.

SO DOES THE MAYOR SUMMARIZE LIKE IS THAT A ROLE THAT THE MAYOR PLAYS AT A WORK SESSION? IS THAT A ROLE THE MAYOR NEEDS TO PLAY OR SHOULD, OR IS THE MAYOR SPEAK WHAT HIS OPINION IS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES? AND THEN YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAYS, HERE'S THE DIRECTION, STAFF'S GOING TO BRING THIS BACK IN TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS I WORKSHOPS GO.

I MEAN, THE EVERYONE SPEAKS AND SAYS OR SAYS YOUR PIECE SAYS THE THINGS THE MAYOR IS TO SAY IS AS WELL.

AND IF IT IS DIRECTION THAT I NEED TO EITHER INSERT MYSELF BECAUSE I NEED CLARITY MANY TIMES I'LL ASK FOR CLARITY OR I'LL SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE AN ITEM THAT GETS PUSHED OUT FURTHER.

I'LL SAY ANY OF THOSE THINGS SO I CAN ANSWER THAT I'M GOING TO POISON THE POOL, BUT SHE'LL SHOOT.

SHE WOULD TELL. SHE WOULD TELL ME IF I IF I'M MISSPEAKING, MISSPEAKING BECAUSE OF THIS, I STOP SUMMARIZING.

THAT'S WHY NONE OF THIS IS RELEVANT FOR THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IN THE END, THE CITY MANAGER WILL POINT OUT, AND I POINTED OUT REGULARLY IN MEETINGS, I SAY EVERY TIME I SUMMARIZE IN THE PAST I GOT IN TROUBLE, SO I STOPPED DOING IT.

SO ALL OF THIS IS AT LEAST A ONE YEAR OLD, AT LEAST, I THINK, SOME ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT IT'S GOTTEN BETTER.

WELL, IT'S STOPPED.

IT'S NOT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY.

YES. WHICH IS WEIRD, RIGHT? YOU ASK FOR CHANGE.

I CHANGE FOR A SOLID YEAR.

THERE'S NOT ONE INSTANCE AND NOT REALLY.

THE ONLY THING YOU HEAR ME SAY IS EVERY TIME I SUMMARIZE, I GET IN TROUBLE.

SO I'VE ASKED THE CITY MANAGER, I MEAN, THE CITY ATTORNEY IF HE'S SPEAKING, IF HE GOT WHAT HE NEED, OR THE CITY MANAGER, I'LL SAY, DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? EVERY TIME I SUMMARIZE, I GET IN TROUBLE SO I DON'T DO IT ANYMORE.

THAT'S BEEN ONE YEAR, BUT HERE WE SIT TODAY AND WE STILL END UP WITH THE FACT THAT I DON'T TALK AFTER VOTES.

THAT'S NOT TRUE. SO.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GREAT USE OF TIME, BUT I DO.

I WOULD OPEN THE DOOR FOR ANYONE TO SEND ME ANY LINK OF ANY VIDEO AT ANY POINT THAT I SUMMARIZED OVER THE PAST YEAR.

I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THE WAY YOU DID IT, THE VERY LAST MEETING.

IT'S A GOOD THING MAYOR SHOULD SUMMARIZE.

WE'RE THE CITY MANAGER.

YOU HAVE YOU IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND YOU ARE GASLIGHTING YOURSELF SIMILARLY.

SO AND THEN THE USE OF THE TERM GAS LIKE HERE IS DENYING SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

YEAH. THAT HAS A LOT OF IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.

YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND GASLIGHTING.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTION SINCE I BROUGHT IT UP, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDED TO BE HAD.

IT'S A FRIENDLY REMINDER OF, YOU KNOW, AS I SEE IT, AND WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS DIRECTION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR LISTENING FOR LAST YEAR.

AND AND, YOU KNOW, I FRANKLY, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE DONE A BETTER A BETTER JOB, A GREAT JOB IN LISTENING TO US ON THAT FACT.

SO THANK YOU. SO CAN I I GOT TO SAY THIS.

GOOD. I APPRECIATE YOU APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID JUST JUST NOW.

SO I'M HAVING A DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE PRESENTING IT, I'M NEW, I'M A COUNCIL.

I MEAN, I'VE WATCHED SOME OF THE MEETINGS THE LAST YEAR, SO I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE DYNAMICS.

I MEAN, SOME OF THEM. BUT SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING, I THOUGHT, OKAY, THIS IS STILL HAPPENING BECAUSE IT'S BROUGHT THEM I BROUGHT IT UP LAST YEAR.

YOU TALKED ABOUT GASLIGHTING IN THE VOTE.

SO. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IF YOU REALLY THOUGHT IT'S IMPROVED, THEN WHAT WAS THE THE REASONING FOR BRINGING IT UP IN A WAY THAT FROM SOMEONE WHO'S NEW ON THE COUNCIL SITTING HERE WITHOUT ANY HISTORY? MY INTERPRETATION WAS THIS IS STILL HAPPENING AND IS IT HAPPENING AFTER THE VOTE? I GUESS.

AND SO I RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I HAVE TO SAY I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT FROM AT LEAST I'M HEARING FROM YOU, I SEE ALISON TALKING OR SHAKING HER HEAD.

I SEE BRYAN ADMITTING THAT, NO, IT'S GOTTEN BETTER, BUT WE SPENT THE LAST 15 OR 20 MINUTES SORT OF RELIVING SOMETHING AND IN MY MIND SOUNDING LIKE SORT OF A BEAT UP SESSION, WHICH HAS AND ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES BEEN ADMITTED THAT IT'S GOTTEN BETTER.

AND SO I DON'T GET THAT, QUITE FRANKLY.

AND I IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

THANK YOU. AND SO BUT LET ME LET ME.

YEAH. WELL, YEAH, NO, NOT YET.

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OKAY. YEAH, SO BUT JUST SOMEONE COMING IN, SO AND I HEARD THE COMMENTS.

WELL, IT'S GOTTEN IT'S GOTTEN MORE IT'S GOTTEN BETTER, BUT IT'S STILL THERE.

THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.

BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT WAS PRESENTED.

WELL, SO YEAH.

WE DIDN'T GIVE I DIDN'T SAY THAT THIS IS A NICE FRIENDLY REMINDER.

IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER BUT IS STILL THERE AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU JUST CONTINUES TO WORK ON IT, WHICH IS WHAT HE'S DONE.

SO YEAH, I NEEDED TO BRING IT UP.

I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO BRING IT UP.

AND THAT'S MY PREROGATIVE TO BRING IT UP.

OF COURSE. YEAH, OF COURSE.

SO GIVING EACH OTHER FEEDBACK IS A GOOD THING.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER, AND I THINK WHEN YOU USE EXAMPLES, IT DOES HELP PEOPLE KIND OF SEE THINGS.

YOU KNOW, I POKED THE BEAR AFTER THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THERE'S THIS LEVEL OF, OH YEAH, KNOW, WE ALL GET ALONG, SO WE ALL WANT THE SAME THINGS.

BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT, YOU'RE NOT GIVING IT, YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT TO EACH OTHER.

AND SO HOW YOU WANDER THROUGH THAT GOING FORWARD IS, IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO YOUR REPUTATION, TO THE BRAND OF OF DENTON.

MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY BRANDON WANTS YOU NOT JUST TO RESPECT HIM, BUT HE WANTS YOU TO LOVE HIM AND TREAT HIM LIKE FAMILY.

NOT ALL FAMILIES ARE WONDERFUL, BUT YOU KNOW.

SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GO THERE WITH SOME OF THESE COMMENTS.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS LITTLE CARD FOR GIVING FEEDBACK.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS KIND OF STRUCK BY WAS GIVING VERY DIRECT FEEDBACK TO AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT NOT REALLY NOT REALLY LOOKING AT THEM, NOT REALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THEM.

AND SO I THINK IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU NEED TO SAY TO SOMEONE, A LITTLE EYE CONTACT, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF THESE.

A LITTLE EYE CONTACT GOES A LONG WAY AS WELL, JUST FROM AN AUTHENTICITY PERSPECTIVE.

SO DAVID NEEDS IT TO BE, WELL, SEE, YOU WANT ME TO GIVE ONE, TOO? ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT QUESTION I'D LIKE YOU TO JUMP INTO IS ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STAFF, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF.

YOU HAVE FIVE DIRECT REPORTS.

THE CITY MANAGER BRINGS THE REST OF THE ORGANIZATION TO YOU, ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU THROUGH HER.

WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THERE? YES, PLEASE, I.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M.

CONCERNED ABOUT AND WOULD REALLY LIKE FEEDBACK ABOUT BECAUSE WE AS I MENTIONED, I'M VERY NEW TO THE SPHERE OF OF GOVERNMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR OTHERWISE.

AND THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT THE WAY THE CITY IS RUN, THE MORE PROUD I AM OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

WE HAVE OUTSTANDING STAFF.

WE HAVE INCREDIBLY COMPETENT PROFESSIONALS WHO WHO KEEP THINGS RUNNING HERE IN A WAY THAT IS MORE FUNCTIONAL, I THINK, THAN THAN A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS.

AND I'M WORRIED.

YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD IN NONSPECIFIC TERMS THAT.

BUT STAFF MORALE IS HARMED BY THE DYNAMICS ON COUNCIL.

AND I WOULD REALLY, REALLY LIKE TO GET MORE SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM STAFF ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS TO THEM AND WHAT THEY NEED FROM US TO CONTINUE DOING EXCELLENT WORK.

BECAUSE I'M VERY WORRIED THAT IF WE LOSE STAFF BECAUSE THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S NOT A POSITIVE WORKING ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE, FRANKLY, THAT I HAVE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO FEEDBACK RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST KIND OF WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP YOU WANT TO HAVE IS ONE THAT ENCOURAGES THE CONTINUED DELIVERY OF EXCELLENCE. YES, I WANT TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WHERE STAFF FEEL SECURE AND EMPOWERED TO DO THEIR BEST WORK.

BRANDON. I WANT A VERY HONEST RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO THESE FOLKS WORK WITH US, BUT THEY ARE ALSO CONSTITUENTS.

SO I HOPE THAT IT CAN BE THE RELATIONSHIP CAN BE ONE OF OPEN COMMUNICATION, HONEST COMMUNICATION AND DIRECTNESS.

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DON'T BE ROUND THE BUSH.

TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER SO WE CAN JUST DO BETTER.

JUST I AGREE WITH WHAT ALICE AND BRANDON BOTH SAID.

I AM INTERESTED ALSO IN THE ANSWER TO ALISON'S QUESTION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THE RELATIONSHIP, THE THINGS I KEYED IN, ESPECIALLY TO WHAT THEY WERE SAYING ABOUT DIRECTNESS AND HONESTY, THAT WHEN THE STAFF IS THERE AT THE PODIUM, GIVE US A REPORT OR WHETHER THEY'RE WRITING THE FRIDAY REPORT OR WHETHER WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION AND SOME OTHER KIND OF BRIEFING.

I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT I RESPECT THEM AS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, AND I'M LISTENING TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY, DOESN'T MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO GOOGLE SOME STUFF LATER AND DEVELOP SOME INDEPENDENT, INDEPENDENT OPINIONS.

BUT I AM GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD.

MAX, AN ATTORNEY. I'M AN ATTORNEY.

WHEN HE STARTS TALKING ABOUT HIS HIS WHEELHOUSE, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO SECOND GUESS HIM ON LAND USE AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I'M GOING TO HAVE MY OWN OPINIONS.

I'M GOING TO READ THE LAW MYSELF.

I'M TRAINED AND EQUIPPED TO DO THAT.

BUT I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THAT AREA.

AND WE ARE ALL SEVEN, I THINK, VERY BRIGHT AND CAPABLE PEOPLE, VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT IS GIVEN TO US.

BUT IT IS NOT IT IS NONE OF OUR CAREER CHOICES, NONE OF OUR WHEELHOUSE.

NONE OF US ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

SO I NEED STAFF TO FEEL EMPOWERED IS A REALLY GOOD WORD THAT THEY CAN TELL US.

LISTEN, HERE'S HOW IT IS. FROM WHERE I'M SITTING, YOU'RE THE POLICYMAKER.

BUT THIS IS HOW IT IS FROM WHERE I'M SITTING, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO PICK RIGHT UP ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT LAST YEAR ABOUT COUNSEL AND THERE'S NO REASON TO TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. MY MY ANALYTICAL NATURE MAKES ME ASK AND THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN PROFESSOR ACADEMIC FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, THAT THAT REALM IS YOU ASK A TON OF QUESTIONS.

YOU ASK QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME.

I WOULD SAY, YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY YOU.

IT'S ACTUALLY YOU NEED US.

THOSE ARE IN MY HEAD.

HOGSHEAD. I LEARNED SOMETHING, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST SLANG.

BUT THERE WE GO. AND IT'S A WAY OF DRILLING DOWN AND GETTING UNDERSTANDING.

AND SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED AT THE BEGINNING IS THERE WAS THERE WAS PUSHBACK FROM FROM STAFF, IS THAT I ARE ABSOLUTELY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

MY FIELD IS COMPUTATIONAL BIOLOGY.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT IN HIGH PERFORMANCE COMPUTING AND BIOCHEMISTRY BIOPHYSICS, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO DOUBLE GUESS YOU ON THOSE THINGS.

BUT THAT RARELY COMES UP.

MAYBE THE COMPUTING THING COMES UP A LITTLE BIT WITH TONE, BUT OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO ASK A TON OF QUESTIONS SO THAT I UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT ISN'T SECOND GUESSING STAFF, THAT IS REACHING A POINT OF UNDERSTANDING SO THAT I CAN FOLLOW THROUGH AND DO THE POLICY. THEN I HAVE TO REFLEXIVELY GIVE BACK.

AND I THINK I WANT TO GIVE STAFF A LOT OF CREDIT.

OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, THEY HAVE STEPPED UP AND THEIR SUMMARIES ARE AWESOME AND HONESTLY, CREDIT MANAGEMENT WITH A LOT OF THE EXAMPLES TO THIS.

I MEAN, SHE'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME, SO I'M WITHIN STRIKING DISTANCE, BUT I LOVE HER EXAMPLE.

SHE SAYS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.

HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SALIENT POINTS ARE? HERE'S WHAT I FOUND.

THOSE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS DRILL DOWN.

IT'S SUMMARIZED SO WELL.

AND IT'S WHY AT THE END OF EVERY ONE OF HER PRESENTATIONS, WE PRAISE THE CRUD OUT OF HER.

I PULLED BACK ON THAT WORD, SO WE PRAISE HER ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT FACILITATES OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SALIENT FEATURES IN OUR IN OUR AUDITS WERE.

AND I REALLY WANT TO PRAISE STAFF.

THEY THEY REALIZED THAT AT LEAST ABOUT ME, IF NOT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHERS WHO HAVE MORE OF AN ACADEMIC BENT.

YOU HEARD THERE'S A LOT OF US WHO HAVE AN ACADEMIC BENT, AND THAT'S LETTING US UNDERSTAND THE MISSION CRITICAL POINTS.

AND THEY'VE REALLY STEPPED UP.

AND THE REASON THAT'S GOOD IS NOT JUST FOR COUNSEL, BUT TO GET BACK TO JON'S POINTS AT THE MEETING.

IT'S IT'S RESPONSIVE AND PARTICIPATORY GOVERNMENT.

I CAN TAKE THOSE SALIENT FACTS THAT IT'S NOT JUST THAT, OH, THIS ROAD IS FINE.

THAT DOESN'T HELP THE CITIZENS PUSH BACK ON THAT.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S FINE, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S FINE.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET AN ENGINEERING REPORT OF THIS IS FINE, THIS IS FINE FOR THESE REASONS, YOU CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO THE CITIZENS.

THEY'RE LIKE, OH NO.

AND THEN THERE'S NO MORE TICKETS COMING THROUGH THE TICKET SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY GET IT.

ALL RIGHT. AND I REALLY DO WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL THE STAFF, YOU ALL HAVE DONE A SUPERB JOB STEPPING UP OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND IT GOES BACK.

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TO THE IDEAL. ANOTHER TERM I'D BET ON, WHICH IS EDUCATION, OUTREACH AND TRAINING.

YOU ALL HAVE REALLY DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB DOING THAT FOR ME AND IT'S HELPED ME TAKE IT BACK TO THE CITIZENS.

CHRIS WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO YOU WANT TO HAVE WITH THE STAFF? OH GOSH, I THINK IT'S THE SAME RELATIONSHIP I'VE ALWAYS HAD, AND THAT IS OPENNESS, HONESTY, CANDOR.

LET THEM KNOW WHAT I NEED TO KNOW.

I LIKE BRIAN'S EXAMPLE OF, HEY, HELP ME, HELP EDUCATE ME ON THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES, AND TO RESPECT THEIR TIME AND TO RESPECT THEIR BOTH THEIR PROFESSIONAL TIME AND THEIR PERSONAL TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WOULD EXPECT FROM THEM WITH ME.

SO I'LL USE THE WORD PROFESSIONAL AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO BE PEOPLE'S FAMILIES OR I JUST I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET ALONG AND TO DO MY JOB AND TO DO IT WELL FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CITIZENS.

AND BECAUSE IF I HAVE A BAD RELATIONSHIP WITH STAFF, EITHER A MEMBER OR JUST IN GENERAL, IT DOES NOBODY ANY GOOD.

AND SO IF I'M DOING SOMETHING THAT IS CONCERNING TO STAFF, I HOPE THAT THEY WILL.

I HOPE I'VE CREATED THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO COME TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON.

I REMEMBER ONE SPECIFIC TIME WHEN I WAS MAYOR, YOU ALL PROBABLY REMEMBER LINDSAY BAKER.

AND PLUS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE THINGS THAT I DO THAT I RECOGNIZE ARE NOT APPROPRIATE AND ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.

AND ONE EXAMPLE WAS I WAS MAKING A PRESENTATION.

I JUST SORT OF LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T SHARE THIS OR BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND AFTERWARDS SHE SHE CAME TO ME, SHE SAID, CHRIS, I TOLD YOU THESE THINGS.

AND I REMEMBER THAT'S LIKE I MADE A MISTAKE THE VERY NEXT MEETING IN PUBLIC, BECAUSE I DID THIS IN PUBLIC, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT I HAD MADE A MISTAKE.

SO THAT'S THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP I WANT TO HAVE AS TO WHERE THERE'S THAT MUTUAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY AND RESPECT TO, BECAUSE WE'RE BOTH JUST TRYING TO DO OUR JOBS THE BEST THAT WE CAN.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP I'VE HAD.

AND I HOPE THAT'S THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO FOSTER.

VICKI, I AM THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU'RE JUST NOT OVERUSING THIS WORD RESPECT, BUT I DO RESPECT THE PROFESSIONALISM.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO COME HERE AND HELP THIS CITY GROW INTO WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

SO THEY COME TO US AND GIVE GIVE US CHOICES TO MAKE.

THEY'VE DONE THE RESEARCH AND THEY'RE GIVING US, YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, THE WORK TO BE DONE.

AND SO I HIGHLY RESPECT THAT.

AND I LISTEN TO THEM AND I TRUST THEM THAT THEY ARE GIVING US THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION ON.

I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF WHAT NOW WHO DO I HAVE A MISSION TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE SO-AND-SO OR TO THE SO-AND-SO? AND THE GENTLEMAN SITTING NEXT, MY LEFT HERE, MR. DAVID GAINES, YOU SAID SAYING EVERYTHING TO ME, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEING EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING YOU'RE THINKING YOU NEED TO BRING IT TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS, JUST EVERYTHING.

SO AND DON'T NECESSARILY GO OUT TO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO HELP KEEP ME IN LINE IN EVERY ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH ANYTHING THAT I'M THINKING.

THAT'S MY JOB IS TO SEND IT TO THEM AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT'S PUSHING IT THROUGH.

SO I'M I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

I CAN FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.

MAYOR, HOW ABOUT YOU? WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS YOU WENT IN WITH THE STAFF? I THINK IT'S.

IT'S A CLEARLY DEFINED RELATIONSHIP.

AND I MEAN, SAY THAT TO ME.

IT'S I FEEL IT'S MY JOB AS PART OF THAT RELATIONSHIP TO PROTECT THEM FROM THINGS, I.E., GOOGLE SEARCHES, I.E., PEOPLE TO SEE BLACK HELICOPTERS.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LIGHT IN THE SKY IN THE WORLD TO LIGHT UP THE ENTIRE SKY AND SAY, HEY, THERE'S NO BLACK HELICOPTERS HERE.

YOU MEAN IF YOU GET AN ARGUMENT WITH SOMEONE THAT THE EXAMPLE USED YESTERDAY, GRAVITY DOESN'T EXIST? WE HAVE A GUY HERE, THE FLAT EARTH GUY, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DATA ON EARTH THAT I'M GOING TO GET HIM TO BUY INTO THE FACT THAT THE EARTH IS ROUND, JUST THAT IT'S.

SO AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

THE SAME WITH CONSTITUENTS.

WE HAVE TO PROTECT STAFF.

I BELIEVE. I HAVE TO PROTECT STAFF FROM GETTING INTO THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS BY SETTING THE TABLE OR IF IT'S IF IT'S IF

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IT'S FLAT EARTH GUY AND HE WANTS TO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER, WELL, HEY, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO.

BUT LET ME THEN SET THE TABLE TO TEE HER UP FOR SUCCESS, TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT CONVERSATION.

AND REALLY I SEE IT AS A THEY ARE USING THE EXAMPLE OF RESTAURANTS.

THEY ARE THE KITCHEN, RIGHT? SO I'M UBER, I TAKE THE ORDER, I BRING IT TO THE KITCHEN, THEY MAKE THE ANSWER, I TAKE IT BACK.

AND SO AND I FOUND THAT TO BE MISSING FROM THIS CONVERSATION, JUST IN MY ESTIMATION, I THINK, AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO IT EVERY TIME CITIZENS, RIGHT? IF IT'S CITIZEN ISSUES THAT I'M BRINGING IN A STAFF THAT I'M IN GOOD SHAPE, IF IT'S GERARD ASKING FOR DRAW, THEN I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT FOR THE CITIZENS, NO QUESTION.

IF I NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT FOR ME, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO IT, AND THAT'S MAYBE A ONE ON ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IF IT'S CITIZEN STUFF OR A CITIZEN FACING OR I GOT TO GET THIS BACK TO THEM, THIS GROUP, THAT ORGANIZATION, THEN THAT'S THE OTHER THING I'LL TOUCH ON IN RANDOM SPOT ON THE STAFF IS THE SECOND LARGEST VOTING BLOC IN THE CITY OF AND THEY KNOW WHERE ALL THE BODIES ARE BURIED.

IT'S HARD TO EDUCATE THE GENERAL POPULACE, BUT STAFF ARE IN IT DAY IN, DAY OUT.

THEY'RE IN THE WEEDS. THEY'RE THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE AND SECOND LARGEST VOTING BLOC IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF MICHIGAN.

SO THAT THAT MATTERS.

JUST BECAUSE THEY WORK HERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T GET TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD AND THEIR ACTIONS ACTED UPON.

AND IT IS DIFFICULT.

I HAVE TO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME WHEN I SEND SOMETHING AS GERARD, THE INDIVIDUAL.

I DON'T I DON'T SURRENDER THAT.

BUT I HAVE TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.

AND SO IT BECOMES DIFFICULT.

SO I'VE GOT TO READ THE TEA LEAVES AND UNDERSTAND IF A STAFF MEMBER HAS AN ISSUE, THEY MAY BE RELUCTANT TO SAY IT.

AND SO I'VE GOT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.

AND HERE, IF SOMEONE'S HEDGING, LIKE I DON'T WANT TO MENTION IT AND TRY TO DRAW THAT OUT AND ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO HAVE THAT ADDRESS, THEY JUST MAY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE RAISING THAT ISSUE BECAUSE THEY WORK HERE.

SO I WANT TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP AND THAT GOES TO THAT OPENNESS AND THAT ABILITY FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE, THAT ABILITY FOR THEM AND TELL ME WHAT THEY'RE THINKING AND HOW THEY FEEL.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND KIND OF SET A CLEAR PATH FOR FEEDBACK AND THEN I NEED TO BE A MARKETING DEPARTMENT FOR STAFF.

SO STAFF IS FOR ME.

WE WANT TO HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE SHE'S HIRING, CHIEF IS HIRING.

AND IF IF, IF I AS AN INDIVIDUAL, US AS A BODY ARE SENDING BAD VIBES OR I SAID THIS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL SO IT'S NOT NEW TO ANYONE.

ALL THE ALL THE KIND OF IF WE'RE THE NEWS FOR CERTAIN THINGS, THEN IT LESSENS THEIR ABILITY TO BRING THE BEST TALENT.

AND THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE THEY'LL BE HERE WELL ALONG WITH ANYONE ELSE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TERM LIMITS HERE.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE.

THEY'RE THE ONES. AND SO I ASKED A QUESTION AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS JUST IF YOU WANTED TO BUILD A CITY, PART SIMPLE THING TAKES ONE YEAR, RIGHT? AND SO YOU KIND OF PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.

THESE LARGER PROJECTS TAKE TIME TO EVOLVE, TO BAKE THE PLAN, THOSE SORT OF THINGS.

SO THEY'RE THE GLUE THAT HOLDS ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE TO ACHIEVE THOSE THINGS, AND I WANT THE BEST TALENT IN DENTON.

SO TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A WORK ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO THAT, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S COMPETITIVE AS IT IS NOW.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE MAJOR AIRLINES WHERE YOU FLY FREE THAT CAN'T HANDLE YOU CAN'T HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN THIS CURRENT ENVIRONMENT THAT I BE A GREAT MARKETING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY MANAGERS, POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THESE AREAS ARE HAVING A CHALLENGE TRYING TO BRING TALENT IN BECAUSE I WANT THE MOST TALENTED STAFF SO THAT OUR CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM THAT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR STAFF.

AND IF ANYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE ANSWERING THIS DIRECTLY RIGHT NOW, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT.

IF NOT, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET A RESPONSE LIKE IF IT HAS TO BE ANONYMIZED OR WHATEVER, BUT ABOUT A SPECIFIC DYNAMIC, SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED A FEW TIMES THAT I THINK SETS A.

THE CRUX OF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAPPENING OR HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

SO LIKE LIKE BRIAN, MAYBE NOT QUITE TO THE EXTENT THAT HE DOES.

I HAVE A TENDENCY TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

AND YESTERDAY WE TALKED ABOUT HOW STAFF IS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE, OPERATIONAL, ANALYTICAL SIDE.

AND COUNCIL REALLY NEEDS TO BE THINKING MORE BIG PICTURE, 10,000 YARD VIEW, WHATEVER THE EXPRESSION IS.

AND THE WAY THAT I TEND TO OPERATE, I ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

I TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND I ALSO VIEW IT MAYBE I'M RIGHT AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I VIEW IT AS

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PART OF MY JOB AS BEING TO BE THE OUTSIDER WHO'S NOT THE EXPERT, WHO'S NOT IN THE TRENCHES, WHO'S NOT IN THE WEEDS, BRINGING IN NEW PERSPECTIVES AND MAKING NEW SUGGESTIONS THAT PERHAPS THE FOLKS WHO ARE KEEPING THEIR NOSE TO THE GRINDSTONE EVERY DAY AREN'T ABLE TO SEE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A DYNAMIC THAT OCCURS PRETTY FREQUENTLY IN BOTH WORK SESSIONS AND ON VOTES ON INDIVIDUAL ITEMS IS THAT STAFF WILL BRING US A RECOMMENDATION.

I HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION AND I MIGHT SUGGEST A DIFFERENT APPROACH, A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

SOMETIMES I SAY THAT I FEEL THAT MY MY APPROACH OR MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS BETTER.

QUITE OFTEN WHAT I'LL DO IS SAY, WHAT IF WE THOUGHT OF IT THIS WAY? AND STAFF WILL EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

AND I'LL SAY THAT'S THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE, BUT.

WHAT OFTEN HAPPENS AFTER I DO THAT IS THAT SOMEONE USUALLY MAYOR HUDSPETH WELL, AFTER THAT CONVERSATION HAS HAPPENED, POINT OUT THAT USUALLY NOT ME BY NAME, BUT THAT SOME MEMBERS OF THE BODY DON'T TRUST STAFF AND DON'T RESPECT STAFF'S OPINION.

AND IN MY MIND.

BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, FRANKLY, A LOT OF TRUST BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE HUDSPETH I THAT CAUSES ME TO ASK MYSELF, DOES HE REALLY MEAN THAT? DOES HE ACTUALLY FEEL THAT I AM COMMUNICATING TO STAFF THAT I DON'T RESPECT THEIR THEIR EXPERTISE OR THAT I DON'T VALUE THEIR OPINIONS? OR IS HE JUST TRYING TO HURT MY CREDIBILITY AND HURT MY RELATIONSHIP? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

SO I. QUESTION YOU WANT ANSWERED YES OR THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW STAFF RECEIVES THE QUESTIONS? OH, WELL, I'M MORE I'M MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM STAFF ABOUT WHETHER IN THOSE SITUATIONS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DO A LOT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF EITHER RIGHT NOW IN PERSON OR IN SOME ANONYMIZED FORM IF IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS MIGHT BE A HARD TRUTH AND I'M VERY COMFORTABLE ALL DAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW THAT ITS STAFF ARE UNDERSTANDABLY SOMETIMES HESITANT TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING THAT HAS MADE THEM FEEL NOT VALUED.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM STAFF, I'M GOING TO IF THOSE SITUATIONS HARM, I WANT THAT I WANT TO TELL A LITTLE STORY, TOO.

BUT GO AHEAD. YOU I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE DON'T YOUR STORY.

OH, TELL ME. AND SO I TELL THE STORY AS A WAY OF KIND OF GIVING AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF STORY I DID.

OH, YOU DID? OKAY. SORRY.

SO THE STORY IS THIS.

SO DECEMBER 24TH, 2017.

MY HUSBAND'S BRINGING HOME ALL THE GROCERIES FOR CHRISTMAS DINNER WITH ALL THE FAMILY, AND HE HAD JUST BEEN SNOWING A LITTLE BIT, AND HE SLIPPED AND FELL ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BASEMENT STAIRS WITH HIS ARMS FULL OF GROCERIES.

AND HE RIPPED HIS SHOULDER COMPLETELY TORE IT.

AND IT WAS VERY PAINFUL.

AND I HAD TO COOK CHRISTMAS DINNER, WHICH SCARED EVERYBODY, BUT I DIDN'T RUIN IT.

SO THAT'S NOT THE STORY.

SO THE STORY IS THAT STORY IS HE HAD TO GO TO THE DOCTOR, OBVIOUSLY, TO FIGURE OUT WHO GETS THE MRI. THEY READ THE MRI AND HE GOES TO THE SURGEON AND I'M SITTING THERE WITH HIM AND ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO IN.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IT'S TORN REALLY BAD.

HE COULD, LIKE, DO THIS TO RAISE HIS ARM A LITTLE BIT, BUT HE ABSOLUTELY COULDN'T DO THIS, LIKE, ZERO.

LIKE, OH, IT REALLY HURT.

BUT HE CAN, HE COULD, HE COULD, HE COULD.

BUT IT HURT REALLY BAD.

PRETTY GOOD MOVEMENT DOWN HERE.

AND THE DOCTOR SAYS, OH, WE NEED TO DO SURGERY.

WELL, WHAT ABOUT PHYSICAL THERAPY? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT BACK IS REALLY NOT GOING TO FIX IT.

YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE SURGERY.

AND HERE'S SURGERY. WE'RE GOING TO GO IN.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REPAIR IT, BUT WE PROBABLY CAN'T.

AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE'RE GOING TO GET A CADAVER PART.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT RIGHT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO CAP YOUR SHOULDER AND YOU'LL HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PAIN FREE MOVEMENT FROM HERE TO HERE, BUT YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO THIS AGAIN. SO THAT'S HOW THEY FIX SHOULDERS OR DON'T FIX THEM IF THEY CAN'T BE FIXED, REPAIRED.

AND IT'S VERY PAINFUL, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. SO AND THEY TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THINK YOU'RE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO CAP IT.

SO HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY LIKE THIS.

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CAN I GET A SECOND OPINION? AND THE DOCTOR LIKE, SURE, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER DOCTOR YOU WANT.

AND 95% OF THEM ARE GOING TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

AND THE OTHER 5%, YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO DO YOUR SURGERY.

THIS IS THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO THEN HE STARTS TO ASK QUESTIONS.

WELL, TELL ME ABOUT NOW, HOW DO YOU DO THIS PROCEDURE? DO YOU COME IN? IS IT ARTHROSCOPIC? DO YOU GO IN FROM THE FRONT? DO YOU GO IN FROM THE BACK? DO YOU OPEN IT TO LOOK AT THE MUSCLE? TELL ME ABOUT THE PROCEDURE.

AND THE DOCTOR IS LIKE.

I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OR YOU CAN GO WATCH A YOUTUBE VIDEO.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP YOU MAKE THIS DECISION.

WHAT DID HE NEED TO DECIDE? WHETHER YOU TRUST THE DOCTOR AND THAT WHERE THEY WANT HIM TO HAVE THE SURGERY.

HE HAD TO DECIDE WHAT OUTCOME HE WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT.

RIGHT. HE HAD TO DECIDE.

AM I WILLING YOU KNOW WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN I COULD DO THIS, BUT IT'LL HURT.

OR THAT I CAN DO ONLY THIS AND IT DOESN'T HURT.

OR MAYBE THERE'S A MIRACLE AND THEY CAN FIX IT.

BUT HIS JOB AND YOUR JOB IS TO DECIDE WHAT OUTCOMES YOU CAN LIVE WITH.

AND SO THAT'S A FILTER FOR THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASK.

SO WHEN YOU'RE MAKING POLICY, YOUR JOB IS TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THE OUTCOMES AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND, NOT ABOUT HOW EXACTLY DID YOU DO THE PAVEMENT TEST TO KNOW THE CONDITION OF THE STREETS.

TELL ME ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

IT MIGHT BE REALLY INTERESTING AND IT COULD BE A GREAT KIND OF RIDE ALONG TYPE OF A THING TO DO.

BUT ON THE DIAS, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE PLACE TO HAVE YOUR NATURAL CURIOSITY SOLVED.

SO FOCUSING ON OUTCOMES IS A GOOD PLACE AND THE HAPPY ENDING IS THE SURGEON WHO IS REALLY KIND OF AN ASS.

THEY FIXED HIS SOLDIER.

I KNOW THEY FIXED HIS SHOULDER.

AND WHEN JOE GOT WOKE UP AND HE SAID, HE SAID, OH, IT WASN'T AS BAD AS YOU THOUGHT IT WAS.

HUH? AND THE GUY GOES, OH, NO, IT WAS THAT BAD.

I'M JUST, GOOD GOD, I HATED HIM.

AND THEN I HURT MY SHOULDER.

I WOULD GO TO HIM. YOU KNOW, I AM NOT GOING TO EQUATE YOUR DOCTOR WITH THESE STAFF.

I'M JUST NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

NO, THAT'S LIKE.

THAT'S IT. NO, HIS OUTCOME WAS X.

SO ANYWAYS, SO.

SARAH SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER MAGUIRE I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WHEN QUESTIONS ARE ASKED AND IT'S IN THE FORM OF HELP ME UNDERSTAND OR I HAVE WHAT HAVE YOU TRIED TO DO IS I THINK STAFF THERE'S BEEN SOME TIMES WHERE IT WAS WE ACTUALLY SAID, NO, WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT OPTION OR WE NEED TO.

FOR THE STAFF MAY SAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SURE.

DEPENDING ON WHO'S PRESENTING IT, THEY MAY NOT FEEL LIKE THEY HAD OTHER OPTIONS.

DAVID MIGHT JUMP IN.

I MIGHT JUMP IN. JUMP IN.

IN CASE SOMETHING JUMP IN TO SAY THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

SO A LOT OF CASES THAT.

NO, WE DON'T THINK THAT WAY AT ALL.

AT ALL. SOME CASES, YES.

WHERE IT'S AND I'M GOING TO GIVE SOME EXAMPLES WHERE WE'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION PREVIOUSLY THROUGH A FRIDAY REPORT, THROUGH A ONE ON ONE, OR I'M NOT SPEAKING TO YOU DIRECTLY, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND THEN WE REPEAT IT AGAIN.

I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S IN DELIVERY.

SOMETIMES IT IS.

THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

WE'RE WE CAN'T THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

AND I THINK IT DOES COME ACROSS SOMETIMES FROM FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING WE CAN GIVE YOU. WE CAN GO BACK AND DO THAT ANALYSIS.

WE CAN GO BACK AND DO THIS ANALYSIS.

WE CAN DO THIS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME.

AND SO IT IS IT'S SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS, BUT SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.

AND I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT IT DOES COME ACROSS SOMETIMES TO SAY, GEEZ, WE WORKED OUR TAIL OFF ON THIS AND NOW WE'RE WE'RE GOING WE'RE ADDING MORE WORK TO IT. SO THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK.

AND I DO THINK SOMETIMES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DAY IN THE LIFE OF WHERE WE SPEND OUR TIME AND HOW OUR DIRECTORS AND THEIR STAFF SPEND THEIR TIME, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS WHEN JUST THE FRIDAY REPORT ALONE IS A PROBABLY 4 TO 5 HOUR ORDEAL, JUST GETTING IT PUT TOGETHER, GETTING THE COUNSEL REQUEST, ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS, TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS IN THERE, GETTING THE INFORMATION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ON A SUNDAY OR SO TO GET THE ANSWERS BACK OUT TO COUNCIL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA SO WE CAN TRY TO AVOID GOING OVER A LOT OF THINGS AND CONSENT, WHICH ARE MOSTLY, AS I SAID BEFORE, THOSE ARE CONSENT, WHICH MEANS THEY SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

THAT IS A TRUST LEVEL YOU HAVE IN THE CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF.

SO I DON'T THINK I THINK WHEN IT'S IN THE SPIRIT OF HAVE YOU TRIED SOME OTHER OPTIONS AND THINGS, WE'RE ACTUALLY OKAY WITH THAT, I THINK.

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I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THERE FOR, HONESTLY, IS TO SAY, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF THIS? HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF THAT? WHEN IT STARTS GOING DOWN INTO DIGGING DEEPER AND DIGGING DEEPER AND DIGGING DEEPER AND DIGGING DEEPER WHERE IT'S WHAT I CALL THE NEVER ENDING STORY, THAT'S WHEN I THINK IT GETS FRUSTRATING FOR STAFF.

SO HELPFUL. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

YES, JESSE, I.

I THINK STAFF IS MOST ESPECIALLY DIRECTOR LEVEL STAFF, WHERE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO DESCRIBE IS THE COUNCIL SIDE OF WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SARAH, IS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUTCOMES ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH OR WHAT OUTCOMES CAN WE LIVE WITH, WE ARE BLESSED AND CURSED WITH A VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED, HIGHLY ENGAGED COMMUNITY.

WE ARE A CITY FULL OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND ALSO FULL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND MAYBE DON'T KNOW QUITE WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER BRINGS AN ALTERNATIVE, IT IS NOT ALWAYS THAT, JUST THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS GOOGLED THAT AND THOUGHT, HEY, THIS IS HOW ANOTHER CITY DOES IT.

WHAT I WANT TO SEE IT IS SOMETIMES THERE ARE 900 PEOPLE, OR AT LEAST ONE VERY LOUD ONE WHO ARE TELLING ME THIS IS THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE DONE.

AND SOMETIMES THOSE CONSTITUENTS ALSO BRING WITH IT VALUE JUDGMENT.

AND IT IS NOT TO THEM SOMETIMES NOT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT TO THOSE CONSTITUENTS.

IT'S NOT 6 TO 1, HALF A DOZEN OTHER.

WE'RE JUST MAKING A GOOD POLICY CHOICE.

IT IS IF YOU MAKE THAT CHOICE, LIKE JOHN'S LITTLE PLAYACTING THAT HE DID YESTERDAY, HE KNEW IT WHEN HE SAID IT AND HE WAS MAKING A POINT.

THAT IS EXACTLY HOW HOW SOME FOLKS THINK THAT IF THERE'S A VALUE JUDGMENT ATTACHED TO IT, I HESITATE TO PUT A SPECIFIC ISSUE TO IT.

BUT LIKE THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE, WHAT I WAS THINKING, THAT'S THE ONE.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT ISSUE, WHETHER THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME TO GET ALL THE PANHANDLERS OUT OF DOWNTOWNS SO THE BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE OR WHETHER IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

PEOPLE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.

AND SO WHEN THE COUNCIL, IT'S KIND OF PUSH AND PUSH AND PUSHING BACK ON STAFF ABOUT SOMETHING.

THE OUTSIDE INFLUENCE THAT'S COMING IN ON COUNCIL IS PEOPLE WHO HAVE STRONG VALUE JUDGMENTS ATTACHED TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR STAFF IS IS SELLING OUT HOMELESS PEOPLE OR, YOU KNOW, YOUR STAFF IS NOT GIVING YOU THE RIGHT ANSWERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS OR YOUR STAFF DOESN'T WANT REALLY THE BEST OUTCOME.

THE STAFF WANTS WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE STAFF.

AND SO COUNCIL HAS TO BE COMFORTABLE, I THINK, TELLING OUR CONSTITUENTS TO KIND OF LEADING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE CONSTITUENTS TO SAY, LISTEN, I HAVE TAKEN EVERY CONCERN YOU GOT TO THE STAFF AND THEY'VE GIVEN ME A RESPONSE.

I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE EVERY WHICH WAY.

AND ON THIS PARTICULAR POINT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS ANYMORE, BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I TRUST THAT OUR STAFF HAS FOUND THE ANSWER.

THEY'VE THEY'VE DUG THROUGH EVERYTHING.

THEY'VE GOT EXPERTISE ON THIS, AND THEY HAVE FOUND THE ANSWER.

WE HAVE TO BE COMFORTABLE TELLING OUR FRIENDS AND TELL THEM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BRINGING US THOSE HEAVY VALUE JUDGMENTS TO BE ABLE TO PUSH BACK ON THAT AND SAY, I TRUST THE STAFF.

THEY'VE WORKED HARD. THEY FIGURED IT OUT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING THIS WAY OR THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND NOT KIND OF TAKING THAT KIND OF TOXIC WAY OF LOOKING AT ISSUES AND PUT IT BACK ON STAFF.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM DOES THAT, BUT THAT'S THE DANGER, IS THAT NOT WHAT BRIAN IS TALKING ABOUT, DRILLING DOWN AND GETTING THE INFORMATION AND ASKING FOR ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT HAMMERING AWAY AND HAMMERING AWAY AND HAMMERING AWAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY IN OUR EAR ABOUT IT.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.

NO, I'M REALLY GLAD AT THAT POINT.

AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO DO.

I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE A DEAD BEAT IN A DEAD HORSE, BUT IT'S INCUMBENT IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO DO EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT AND EDUCATION, OUTREACH AND TRAINING.

THOSE ARE THOSE BUZZWORDS THAT I PARTICULARLY LIKE, BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO STAFF.

THIS IS THE LEVEL OF CHANGE THAT STAFF IS RESPONSIVE.

THEY'RE LIKE, WOW, NO, THAT'S A THAT'S A SERVICE GAP.

AND WE ARE COVERING THAT SERVICE GAP IN THESE WAYS, AND WE CAN FURTHER COVER IT OVER ANOTHER SIX MONTHS IN THESE WAYS.

AND BY GETTING THOSE DETAILS, IT'S OUR JOB.

HONESTLY, AS THE MEGAPHONE GOES BOTH WAYS, WE ARE THE PEOPLE'S MEGAPHONE, BUT WE'RE THE STAFF'S MEGAPHONE TO GO BACK TO THE PEOPLE AND SAY STAFF HAS REALLY DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB EDUCATING ME.

THIS IS HOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

ALL RIGHT. YOU MAY HAVE HAD THIS VALUE JUDGMENT ABOUT A PARTICULAR THING, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SOLVING THAT.

THEY'RE JUST NOT DOING IT LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T WORK.

YOU DON'T TURN THE QUEEN MARY WITH A TUGBOAT.

THAT ISN'T HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO ONCE YOU'VE TALKED THROUGH THOSE RAMIFICATIONS, ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND THOSE NUGGETS, THAT'S HONESTLY, THEY DON'T, EXCEPT FOR RYAN, WHO THAT IS, HAS ACTUALLY HIS JOB IS THEN STEWARD TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC AND OTHER PEOPLE IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.

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THE REST OF THEM SHOULD BE DOING THEIR JOB.

AND OUR JOB AS POLITICIANS IS TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK BACK.

AND SO IT IS TWO WAY FEEDBACK.

SO IT IS MUTUALISTIC AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

YOU JUST KNOW, I GUESS, AND YOU MIGHT BE GETTING TO IT, BUT I KNOW THAT SARAH ANSWERED A SPECIFIC QUESTION, BUT YOUR QUESTION TO US WAS HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE OR WHAT YOUR RELATIONSHIPS WOULD BE? I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF ANSWERING THAT SAME QUESTION.

OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE RIGHT NOW.

I'M ON LEAVE.

WE NEED TO KEEP PUSHING.

BUT I HOLD IT OUT THERE AS A CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD DO GOOD TO HAVE AT SOME POINT.

AND IF WE FINISH A LITTLE EARLY, I'LL COME BACK TO IT.

YEAH, WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO ABIDE BY YOUR RULE.

BUT I THINK I THINK WHERE I THINK WE ARE MISSING A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS IS LISTED I CAN GIVE IT TO THIS IS NOT A ONE WAY STREET.

SO I MEAN, GO FOR IT THEN I'LL DO IT QUICKLY.

YEAH. SO THIS ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE DIRECTORS.

I KNOW WE HAD A DIRECTORS RETREAT.

ASK THE DIRECTORS, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM COUNCIL? RESPECT, VALUE, STAFF'S TIME AND EXPERTISE.

FOCUS ON POLICY, NOT DOWN THE WEEDS.

PROVIDE CLEAR SHARED LONG TERM DIRECTION AT THE POLICY LEVEL.

BE CIVIL AND BUILD CONSENSUS.

GET THE FACTS, BUT NOT FROM SOCIAL MEDIA.

THAT'S JUST SHARING WHAT FOCUSED ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST ONE AREA.

UNDERSTAND HOW COUNCIL REQUESTS IMPACT DEPARTMENT LEVEL STAFF.

I THINK YOU ALL HAVE PRETTY MUCH SAID THAT THIS ONE IS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER BIRD WAS TALKING ABOUT.

GO THROUGH THE PREFERRED CHANNEL, WHICH IS COME TO THE CMO, THEN WE GET IT OUT AND GET ALL THE ANSWERS.

TRY TO GET IT MORE COMPREHENSIVE FOR YOU AND NOT HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK.

ALLOW US TO HAVE TO BE SWITZERLAND.

SOMETIMES COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO KNOW WHERE STAFF STAND OR WANT TO TRY TO SELL THEIR POINT TO US THAT A DIRECTOR AND THE STAFF REALLY WANT TO STAY IN SWITZERLAND AND NOT GET IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN CONTINUE TO USE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGY.

I DON'T THINK IT'S REAL.

ANYTHING THAT'S. YOU'LL GIVE THAT TO ME AND I'LL TAKE THAT.

CAN YOU CLARIFY ABOUT THE LAST POINT? OH, JUST APPROPRIATE MEASURES AND TECHNOLOGY.

JUST CONTINUE TO USE THE RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO YOU OR YOU ENGAGED IN OR THE 311 THAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH.

YES, THAT WILL HELP, HOPEFULLY GETTING ALL THAT OUT THERE.

BUT I MEAN, I THOUGHT THOSE ARE PRETTY GOOD.

NOTHING. SO ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A COPY OF THIS ALL TAKEN IN THE REPORT? ABSOLUTELY. LAST QUESTION OF MY GOVERNING TOGETHER QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LUNCH.

I'M GOING TO ASK RYAN IF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESENT WHILE THEY EAT THIS ARRAY SO WE CAN KIND OF MAYBE CATCH A LITTLE TIME THAT WAY.

SO KIND OF A WORKING LUNCH.

WE'LL GIVE EVERYONE TIME TO COME IN AND GET THEIR FOOD AND THEN I'LL GO.

THE LAST QUESTION AND I'VE HEARD YOU.

I'LL SAY MAYBE THE COUNCIL CAN TURN OVER IN A YEAR.

SO YOU'VE GOT A YEAR TOGETHER WITH THIS GOVERNING BODY, THIS GROUP OF SEVEN PEOPLE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT THIS GOVERNING BODY TO BE KNOWN FOR? BE READY, JESSE.

I WOULD LIKE THIS GOVERNING BODY TO BE KNOWN FOR.

GETTING IT RIGHT.

I THINK THE SECRET SAUCE AND THE PEOPLE SMARTER THAN ME THAT HAVE WRITTEN ON THIS, I'VE BEEN WRITING UP FOR YEARS.

THE SECRET SAUCE TO FIXING WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, RIGHT HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

IF THE BALL TEAMS AND THE ROTARY CLUBS AND THE CITY COUNCILS, IT'S THIS IS THE SPACE WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, WHERE WE CAN FIND COMMON GROUND AND WE CAN MAKE GOVERNMENT WORK WITHOUT THROWING THE MUD.

I WOULD LIKE US TO BE KNOWN.

I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT TWO PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THERE IS TO BE KNOWN ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THOSE TWO PEOPLE, IF THEY EVER GOT ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT SOMETHING.

HOLY MOLY, WE'D HAVE IT FIGURED OUT.

LIKE THIS COUNCIL HAS THE SUPERPOWER RIGHT HERE IN THE.

I WOULD LIKE US TO BE KNOWN AS THE GROUP THAT DID IT.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

I THINK WE'RE WE'VE WE'VE TAKEN A BUNCH OF STEPS IN RECENT YEARS WHERE AND I THINK WE'RE I'M GOING TO SAY IS HAVING A VISIONARY STRATEGIC PLAN AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS OF THE VARIOUS SORTS, ALL OF THEM THAT WE THEN FOLLOW THAT ARE THAT ARE THOUGHTFUL AND FORWARD THINKING.

I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK PRIOR GOVERNMENTS AND DENTON SLIPPED A LOT, THE GEARS RATCHETED A LOT, AND THEY DID

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NOT FOLLOW THOSE.

AND I THINK THAT'S I'D LIKE TO BE THAT WHATEVER WHATEVER COUNCILS I'M ATTACHED TO ARE KNOWN FOR FOR FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THAT STRATEGIC VISION.

THANK YOU. CHRIS, YOU HAVEN'T.

WELL, I'M GOING TO SORT OF STAY SORT OF AT A HIGHER ELEVATION BECAUSE I THINK.

BRIAN, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID.

AND AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT'S SORT OF THE OPERATIONAL I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO BE KNOWN FOR FAIRNESS AND EQUITY, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO ALL HAVE DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO ALL HAVE LIKE ON PLANS, STRATEGIC PLANS, SOMETHING MAY COME UP THAT REQUIRES A MODIFICATION FOR THAT.

BUT IF WE USE THOSE PRINCIPLES OF FAIRNESS AND EQUITY TO MAKE DECISIONS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE CLOSER.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF I LIKE THE TERM OF GETTING IT RIGHT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS ARE GETTING IT ALMOST.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THE BEST DECISIONS.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I THINK I WOULD WANT THIS COUNCIL TO BE KNOWN AS ONE THAT IS SET IN THE REALITY OF IT ALL.

THAT IS NOT GOING TO ALWAYS BE FAIR.

IT'S GOING TO HURT WITH GROWTH, KIND OF LIKE GROWING PAINS.

I REMEMBER WHEN MY BROTHER HE'S I THINK HE'S ABOUT SIX, FIVE AND I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER, HE WAS ALWAYS IN PAIN AND HE WAS GETTING TALLER AND TALLER AND TALLER.

HE WAS GOING THROUGH GROWING PAINS.

SO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT AS OUR REALITY.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE PROGRESSING AND WE'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT CITY, EVEN IF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND AND ALL OF US OUT THERE CAN REMEMBER THAT THAT IS GOING TO HURT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE WILL BE OKAY.

THANKS, MAN.

YEAH. NO, I THINK IT'D BE JUST TO GET BACK TO BASICS, JUST GET BACK TO CORE COMPETENCIES THAT THIS COUNCIL IN THIS YEAR I THINK CAN GET BACK TO.

THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL THAT WE GET BACK TO BASICS.

OKAY. ALISON, I'D LIKE US TO BE KNOWN AS THE COUNCIL THAT HAS PUT DENTON IN A GOOD POSITION TO HANDLE THE CHALLENGES OF THE FUTURE. I'M ABSOLUTELY GOING TO COSIGN ON WHAT JESSE SAID. AND I WILL ADD TO GETTING IT RIGHT AGAIN.

YOU ASKED EARLIER WHAT IS AN EXAMPLE FOR ME OF GOOD GOVERNANCE? IT'S FISCAL COUNCIL.

THERE'S NEVER FOR ME, THERE'S NEVER TIME.

YOU SEE THOSE FOLKS ACTING DISAGREEABLE TOWARD EACH OTHER.

THEY'RE ALWAYS DOING ALL PUBLIC EVENTS TOGETHER.

YOU CAN'T FIND A CRACK IN THAT ARMOR.

NOW I KNOW THEY HAVE THESE SAME HARD BATTLES AND DISCUSSIONS IN THE ROOM AND WHEN THEY COME OUT, THEY ARE ONE.

I HOPE THAT THAT IS THE LEGACY OF THIS COUNCIL.

JUST IT'S NOT ABOUT THE POLICIES THAT THEY'RE ADOPTING.

IT'S ABOUT THE BEHAVIORS THAT YOU'RE SEEING.

THAT IS WHY I CONTINUE TO USE THE EXAMPLE OF FAMILY.

I MIGHT DISAGREE WITH MY BROTHER, BUT I WILL GO BEHIND MY BROTHER BECAUSE THAT'S MY BROTHER.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK LUNCH IS HERE.

AM I RIGHT? YEAH. SO LUNCH IS HERE.

YOU GET YOUR LUNCH AND WE'LL GET READY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SURVEY RESULTS.

YEAH, I'LL BE ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO BRIAN'S GOING TO PRESENT YOUR SURVEY RESULTS.

HIGH LEVEL, PRELIMINARY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

LOTS OF CAVEATS, LOTS OF CAUTIONS.

BUT I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US.

WE WENT THROUGH THIS SURVEY EXERCISE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE ASKED THEM AND WE PRESSED OUR CONSULTANT.

THE POLICE HAVE SOMETHING FOR US.

TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE SOMETHING WHEN YOU HAVE THIS HIGHLY SUSPECT.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF CAVEATS.

WHAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU IS ARE THE HIGH LEVEL MEASURES.

AS YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY YOURSELF.

THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THAT SURVEY.

SO A LOT MORE DETAIL IS GOING TO COME IN THE FINAL REPORT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT PROBABLY VERY SHORTLY.

BUT WE DID GET THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS HERE WITHIN THE LAST 48 HOURS.

SO WE PUT THIS TOGETHER TO TRY TO SHARE SOME OF THAT WITH YOU SO THAT IT REALLY CAN INFORM YOUR DISCUSSION, MAYBE NOT DRIVE IT, BUT DEFINITELY BE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CONSIDER AS YOU ESTABLISH WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVES ARE, WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.

SO LINGER TOO LONG ON THIS.

WE LAST DID THIS IN 2018 USING THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY, SO A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ARE THE SAME, WHICH IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR TRENDS OVER TIME.

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ALSO, THE CSA DO SURVEYS FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CITIES, SO WE GET A LOT OF REALLY GOOD BENCHMARK COMPARISON DATA.

WE DID OUR ACTUAL COLLECTION BETWEEN APRIL AND JUNE AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS THAT SAYS YESTERDAY WE GOT THEM ON THURSDAY.

SO THESE ARE ALL THE AREAS WHERE THEY ASK QUESTIONS, ALL THE MEASURES OF SUCCESS, EVERYTHING FROM FACETS OF LIVABILITY, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY TO ECONOMY MOBILITY.

AND THEY ASK A LOT OF DETAILED QUESTIONS WITHIN THESE AREAS THAT WHEN YOU GET THE FINAL REPORT AS A COUNCIL, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND DIVE DEEP INTO THE DATA.

AND I'LL MENTION AS WE GO THAT ESTABLISHING CAUSE IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD EXERCISE FOR TODAY.

WE JUST ASK THE QUESTIONS AND WE JUST HAVE THE DATA.

WHY PEOPLE ANSWER THE WAY THEY ANSWER IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ON.

SO THIS IS JUST SIMPLY HOW PEOPLE FEEL.

AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME.

WE DISTRIBUTED 20, SENT OUT SURVEY LINKS AND PAPER SURVEYS TO 2800 HOMES IN THE CITY.

WE RECEIVED ABOUT A 10% RESPONSE RATE, WHICH IS PRETTY PAR FOR THE COURSE BASED ON ON A LOT OF CITY SURVEYS DONE BY THIS COMPANY.

I'LL GET ANOTHER ONE THAT JUST HAS SOME DATA INFORMATION.

BUT I DID WANT TO INCLUDE WE HAD SURVEYS IN 2015, 2017, 2018.

WE HAD ONE SCHEDULED FOR 2020.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE PANDEMIC HIT AND YOU ALL KNOW THE STORY.

SO HERE ARE MY CAVEATS.

AGAIN, THE INFORMATION IS PRELIMINARY.

WE SHOULD HAVE THE FINAL REPORTS EARLY JULY.

THE VENDOR WHEN I WROTE THIS WAS STILL ANALYZING DATA AND FINDING THOSE INCLUSIONARY STATEMENTS.

THE PERCEPTIONS AND RESPONSES ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THOSE LARGER ISSUES OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO COVID, WINTER STORM URI AND NATIONAL ECONOMY, NATIONAL POLITICS AND THEN ALWAYS AND THIS IS ANY SURVEY, JUST MAYBE GENERAL CONFUSION OVER WHAT THE STATE DOES, WHAT THE CITY DOES, WHAT THE COUNTY DOES, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY ARE THE MEASURES OF LIVABILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO MENTIONED 2800 HOUSEHOLDS RESPONSE RATE AT 10%, 95% CONFIDENCE LEVEL.

I INCLUDE THAT FOR YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BECK.

HERE I AM.

I GET THAT QUESTION.

AND SO IT'S ABOUT A 6% MARGIN OF ERROR.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THIS IS ON PAR WITH WHAT THEY RECEIVED.

SO WE LIKE IT TO BE A HIGHER CONFIDENCE LEVEL, OF COURSE.

BUT 95, THIS IS STILL GOOD FOR OUR PURPOSES.

SO WHEN WE SHOW YOU THE DATA, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE DATA FOR DENTON.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE BENCHMARK COMPARISONS AND YOU'LL HAVE A WORD FOR EACH OF THESE, WHETHER IT'S HIGH OR LOW OR SIMILAR.

AND IF THE SAY IT'S A MEASURE OF GOOD OR EXCELLENT ON SOME SOME QUESTIONS.

RATE THIS GOOD OR EXCELLENT AND IT SAYS SIMILAR BELOW.

THAT MEANS WE ARE WITHIN TEN PERCENTAGE POINTS OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF ALL THE OTHER BENCHMARK CITIES.

SO THE FINAL REPORT ALSO WILL SHOW COMPARISONS WITH BENCHMARK CITIES THAT ARE WITHIN DENTON'S POPULATION RANGE.

A FEW OF THOSE ARE IN TEXAS AND A FEW OF THOSE ARE IN OUR BACKYARD.

LOOS BUILDING BEING ONE.

A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ON THEIR BENCHMARK COMPARISONS AND THESE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT PROVIDED THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US BY.

OF ALL OF THE DATA THAT THEY WERE STILL ANALYZING.

AND I ASKED THEM TO GIVE ME SOMETHING OVERARCHING INCLUSIONARY STATEMENTS.

THIS IS WHAT THEY GAVE ME.

YOU'LL SEE THE DATA BEHIND THIS HERE IN A SECOND.

THEN RESIDENTS HAVE A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE.

APPRECIATE THE ARTS AND CULTURE IN THE CITY.

ECONOMY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SOME ASPECTS ARE FALLING BELOW THE PRE-PANDEMIC RATINGS.

MOBILITY MAY BE AN AREA OF OPPORTUNITY AND MOBILITY.

MOBILITY IS A BIG, BROAD TERM, SO THAT COMES AS QUITE A BIT WITHIN THE SURVEY.

AND OF COURSE, WITH SAFETY, THEY SEE RESIDENTS FEEL SAFE.

BUT SAFETY IS ALSO A PRIORITY.

SO WE'LL GO INTO OUR COMMUNITY LIVABILITY MEASURES FIRST.

AND OF COURSE, THAT ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF HIGH LEVEL, HIGH LEVEL MEASURES NOW.

AND I FORGOT I ACTUALLY HAD THIS PRESENTATION PRINTED OUT FOR YOU GUYS.

MONICA, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GRAB THAT? IT'S UP ON THE TABLE BEHIND YOU.

I GUESS YOU GOT IT. I CAN DO IT.

SOME OF THESE MAY BE A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT I'M GOING TO KIND OF I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO THESE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO MAYBE POINT OUT A FEW.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON A COUPLE OF THESE MEASURES, WE DO RANK LOWER THAN OUR NATIONAL BENCHMARK AVERAGE, PARTICULARLY ON

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THE BOTTOM FOR THE LAST WALK.

WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY HOLDCO IS THAT A LOT OF CITIES WHO HAVE DONE THESE TYPES OF SURVEYS POST-PANDEMIC ARE SEEING A NUMBER OF DOWNWARD SLIDES IN A LOT OF AREAS. SO THAT IS NOT UNCOMMON, NOT THE DEGREE TO WHICH YOU SEE DOWNWARD SLIDE IS DIFFERENT FROM CITY TO CITY, BUT WE ARE PRETTY ON PAR WITH THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK IN TERMS OF OVERALL ECONOMIC HEALTH AND A LITTLE BIT LOWER ON TRANSPORTATION, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERALL FEELINGS OF SAFETY.

NOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAUSAL INFORMATION THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO US.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT, AGAIN, TO TO REMEMBER THOSE FACTORS THAT CAN INFLUENCE PEOPLE'S SENTIMENTS.

ONE OF WHICH THAT I DIDN'T MENTION EARLIER IS JUST THE TIME IN WHICH THEY COMPLETE THE SURVEY, WHICH FOR DENTON WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION SEASON, WHICH IS FRANKLY, IT'S JUST IT'S A REALITY.

SO PEOPLE MAYBE HAVE HIGHER SENSITIVITIES, CERTAIN ISSUES OVER OTHERS OR OVER OTHER PERIODS OF TIME.

SO I CAN LEAVE THIS UP FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF EVERYONE'S GOOD, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.

OTHER FACETS OF LIVABILITY.

NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.

PARKS AND REC. WELLNESS.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE DOING VERY WELL.

EDUCATION, CULTURE AND THE ARTS AND THEN ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

MOST OF THESE WE ARE SIMILAR WHEN WE'RE HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK AVERAGE, WHILE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT A LITTLE BIT LOWER.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE COMPARED TO OUR BENCHMARK CITIES THAT MIGHT LEND GREATER INSIGHTS WHEN WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US.

SO WE ASKED THE RESIDENTS TO RATE THINGS AS EXCELLENT OR GOOD OR NOT GOOD, OR WE ALSO ASKED THEM TO RATE THE IMPORTANCE.

NOW, OF COURSE, YOU FILL OUT A SURVEY.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO MAKE RANK ORDER CHOICES.

SO EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR THEM AS IT SHOULD BE.

THESE ARE BIG, IMPORTANT THINGS, BUT WE ARE RANKING IN TERMS OF IMPORTANT, PRETTY SIMILAR TO BENCHMARK CITIES.

YOU'LL NOTICE A COUPLE OF THESE MEASURES DON'T HAVE TRENDS.

THEY ARE NEW QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS ASKED IN SUCH SUCH A WAY THAT THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN MAYBE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS WE HAVE ASKED.

AND I'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

AND AGAIN, WRITING PRETTY SIMILAR ON ON HOW THE POPULATION HOW THEY RATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE THESE ISSUES.

AND SO I THINK A SLIDE THAT SPEAKS PRETTY WELL TO TO WHAT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, COMPARING QUALITY TO IMPORTANCE.

OF COURSE, THE UPPER RIGHT HAND QUADRANT ARE AREAS THAT ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE ARE DOING WELL IN ANYTHING ABOVE THAT MEDIAN OR WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL.

AREAS IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT ARE STILL IMPORTANT, BUT MAYBE THE QUALITY, THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE.

HERE WE GO. SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

WE DID ASK SOME QUALITY OF LIFE QUESTIONS.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THESE ARE HIGHER LEVEL UMBRELLA TOPICS WHEN WE GET THE FINAL REPORT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO THESE LARGER CONCEPTS THAT MIGHT PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHT.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, ABOUT 71% RATED THE CITY AS HAVING AN EXCELLENT, GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND YOU PUT THE DEFINITION IN THERE.

WE'RE WRITING PRETTY SIMILAR TO OUR BENCHMARK CITIES OR DAYTON AS A PLACE TO LIVE OR THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT DID DIP SINCE 2018.

I'M NOT AT A POINT TO TELL YOU TO WHAT EXTENT THE PANDEMIC OR SIGNIFICANT EVENTS THAT ARE STATEWIDE NATURE LIKE URI MAY HAVE IMPACTED THIS ANSWER, BUT THAT IS THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.

SO IN TERMS OF LIKELIHOOD TO RECOMMEND DENTON OR REMAIN IN DENTON SIMILAR TO OUR BENCHMARKS FOR RECOMMENDING THEM A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WE WERE IN 2018.

PRETTY CONSISTENT ON REMAINING AND THEN.

AND THEN OUR OVERALL IMAGE OF REPUTATION A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT STILL ON PAR WITH OUR BENCHMARKS.

SO THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE.

THESE ARE GENERALLY OUR NEXT STEPS.

SO YOU TODAY WILL USE THIS TO HELP JUST A PORTION OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAVE.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES, TALK ABOUT OBJECTIVES, WHAT YOU COUNSEL WANT, THE FOCUS IS TO BE THE FOCUS IS WHATEVER

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TO BE AS YOU GO FORWARD.

STAFF IS GOING TO COMPILE THOSE FULL SURVEY RESULTS WHEN YOU GET THEM.

AND WE'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO COUNSEL.

WE'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE IT, OF COURSE, TO OUR STAFF SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT THEIR SERVICES.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO MAKE THEM PUBLIC.

LET THE.

LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW.

HEY, WE ASKED YOU HOW YOU FELT.

YOU TOLD US. HERE YOU GO.

LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. AND THEN AS WE GO FORWARD, LIKE WE'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS SURVEYS, IS THEY'LL SHAPE AND REALLY CONTINUE TO SHAPE, CONNECT, COUNCIL, SET PRIORITIES, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND STRATEGIC PLANNING, OUR BUDGET DECISIONS, AND THEN JUST KIND OF USE THAT TO HELP INFORM HOW WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

SO I WILL STOP RIGHT THERE.

I'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS I HAVE KNOWING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL RECORD, I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO CLOSE TO THE DATA, BUT I DO.

WE DID WANT TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU.

HOPE IT SPURS A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITHIN THE COUNCIL AND LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING YOU THAT FINAL REPORT HERE VERY SHORTLY.

SO ONE QUESTION YOU HAVE FOR JESSE.

THANKS, MIGUEL. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO BRIAN'S TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF METHODOLOGY QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS WE HAD RANDOM SAMPLING AND THEN WE ALSO HAD OPEN RESPONSE.

YES. HOW DO THOSE TWO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER? BECAUSE THEY DON'T.

YEAH, THAT'S LIKE ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY AND WHAT WILL BE IN THE FINAL REPORT, IS THAT STATISTICALLY VALID SAMPLE OF 2800? WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? THE OTHER ONE, IT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT AS WELL.

BUT IT WILL BE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT STATISTICALLY VALID, THOSE OPINIONS ARE STILL IMPORTANT.

AND IN AREAS WHERE THEY WERE, THEY DIFFER.

IT CAN KIND OF MAYBE REINFORCE, REINFORCE WHAT THE DATA IS SHOWING ARE NOT WHERE THEY DIFFER, WHERE THEY'RE SIMILAR AND WHERE THEY DIFFER.

THAT MIGHT BE CAUSE US TO POSE A QUESTION OF WHY, OF A PERCEPTION, WHAT KIND OF WHAT WOULD THAT TELL US? IF THOSE THINGS ARE THOSE THINGS ARE DIFFERENT, THAT THE OPEN RESPONSE THE SELF-SELECTED RESPONDENTS OR FEELING ONE WAY AND RANDOMLY SELECTED FEELING THE OTHER WAY.

WHAT DO WE KNOW? IT COULD TELL THE COUNCIL THAT WHEN WHEN WE GET SELF SELECTED INFORMATION IN OTHER AREAS THAT MIGHT NOT BE AS RELIABLE AS SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SCIENTIFIC IS ONE TAKE HOME.

IT'S HARD TO SAY ON SPECIFIC THINKING, ON THE SPECIFIC ISSUE.

PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO FEEL THE WAY THEY FEEL AND EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS, EACH INDIVIDUAL'S THOUGHT ON SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S THE THE BENEFIT OF DOING SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SCIENTIFIC IS THAT YOU CAN GENERALLY.

EXPAND THOSE RESULTS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.

NOW, THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS THERE, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A DEGREE OF ERROR.

BUT YOU CAN HAVE A LOT MORE CONFIDENCE, AND THIS IS GENERALLY HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS.

BUT PART OF IT IS ALSO, AGAIN, WE PEOPLE WE DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE NO.

IF THEY WANT TO TELL US HOW TO FEEL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S A BIG REASON WHY WE OPEN IT UP FOR THE SELF-SELECTED PORTION OF IT.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 13, THE AXES.

SO THOSE ARE LABELED MEDIUM IN THIS ONE.

THOSE ARE YEAH, THOSE ARE MEDIANS IN OUR PEER CITIES.

THOSE ARE MEDIANS IN OUR OUR BENCHMARK CITIES.

SO THIS IS THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK.

WE DO HAVE A SMALLER SUBSET OF PEER CITIES, BUT THAT'S NOT THIS DATA RIGHT HERE.

AND THE PEER CITIES, THEY ARE PEER CITIES DUE TO POPULATION.

THOSE WERE THE SELECTION FACTORS.

IT WASN'T FOR ANY OTHER.

QUALITATIVE FACTOR OR QUANTITATIVE FACTORS.

CITIES THAT HAVE A VERY SIMILAR POPULATION TO OURS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING THOSE AXES.

I'M MORE ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING THIS KIND OF CHART WHERE IT'S 0 TO 100 AND 0 TO 130.

THEY'RE OPPOSING IDEAS ON EITHER SIDE OF EACH AXIS AND NOT KIND OF A SCALE OR A RANGE.

AND SO I GUESS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE WE CAN DECIDE IF GOOD OR BAD, WHATEVER THE WHATEVER THE MEASURE WE WANT, WE REALLY, IN OUR OWN MINDS COULD PUT THOSE AXES WHEREVER WE WANTED THEM TO DECIDE.

ARE THESE DOTS PROPERLY GROUPED OR THESE ARE THESE ALL FOLLOWING IN THE SAME IN THE QUADRANT WHERE WE WANT THEM? THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY.

I MEAN, MAYBE. MAYBE 79% IS REALLY GOOD.

MAYBE WE DECIDE THAT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

MAYBE WE DECIDE THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR THING, 65 IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

BUT THE WAY THAT THIS GRAPH LAYS IT OUT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CONVEY THAT.

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IT'S ALMOST LIKE THERE'S A THERE'S A VALUE JUDGMENT THERE.

YOU'RE DOING REALLY WELL IF YOU'RE UP HERE OVER THERE.

BUT BUT REALLY, ALL YOU'RE SEEING IS WHERE THE DOTS FALL IN RELATION TO THE MEETINGS.

NO, NOT A POSITIVE NEGATIVE.

AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

SO WHEN WHEN I SAID THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AS WELL AS DOING WELL IN COMPARISON TO THE, SAY, AVERAGE, THE MEDIAN OF THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK CITIES THAT USE POCO FOR THEIR OTHER SERVICES, IT'S IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER.

BUT AGAIN, WITH ANY SURVEY, THERE'S THERE'S SOME DEGREE OF OF THAT UNCERTAINTY THERE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO.

SO AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHAT DO WE CONSIDER A QUALITY SERVICE? WHAT DO WE CONSIDER? HOW DO WE HOW DO WE LOOK AT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS TOLD US AND PLACE A PREMIUM ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT? HOW DO WE DEFINE WHAT'S IMPORTANT? AND IT MAY DIFFER FROM WHAT THE NATIONAL THE NATIONAL MEETINGS ARE.

SO. OTHER QUESTIONS.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN THERE.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS GETTING IN THE WEEDS.

BUT IT'S EXACTLY WHY WHEN YOU DO ANY SOCIOLOGICAL STUDY, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY THAT YOU GET OUT OF IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU CRAFT YOUR QUESTION AND THEN DESIGN YOUR TOOL TO FOLLOW THAT QUESTION.

OR DO YOU HAVE A TOOL AND THEREFORE YOU PULL YOUR QUESTIONS OUT OF IT AND YOU NEVER SHOULD DO THAT.

BUT WE DO IT ALL THE TIME.

AND AND IT'S NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION WE HAVE THAT I WILL MEAN IN THE FUTURE LIKE US TO ADDRESS AND SORT OF AND IT GETS TO JESSE'S SELF-SELECTION BIAS.

QUESTION DO WE HAVE A TRACKING QUESTION IN THE SURVEY THAT THAT RELATES TO HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE THE RANDOM SAMPLING IS GREAT FOR THE ACTUAL POPULATION VERSUS BUT THEN YOU GET A LOT OF SCATTER AND NOISE IF THEY'RE NOT DAMN WELL PAYING ATTENTION.

WHEN YOU SAY PAYING ATTENTION.

SO IF THEY IF THEY HOW INFORMED ARE THEY ABOUT PARTICULAR TOPICS OF INTEREST? IF THEY ARE JUST TRULY A RANDOM SAMPLE, THEN WE KNOW, LOOK, LET'S BE HONEST, AMERICANS AND DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S A SUBSET OF AMERICANS THAT PAY ATTENTION.

AND WE HEAR FROM THE SUBSET OF AMERICANS THAT PAY ATTENTION AND TRY TO PULL US BACK TO POLITICS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

SO AND THE QUESTION IS THIS RELATIONSHIP OF WHEN WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DENTON WANTS, WE'RE REPRESENTING ALL OF THAT AND EVEN THE DEBT AND IT'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION. BUT THEN THEIR ANSWERS ARE SCATTERED AND NOISY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

SO SO YOU'RE ATTRACTING QUESTION IS THE IS THE SIMPLE QUESTION.

SO WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS THAT RELATE SORT OF TO THAT, BUT NOT EXACTLY TO THAT.

ONE OF THEM IS RATING THE FOLLOWING ASPECT OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS.

SO YOU CAN SEE HOW PEOPLE RANK THOSE COMMUNICATIONS.

AND THAT MORE SPEAKS TO TO HOW AND WHERE THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT INDICATES HOW MUCH OF A SOURCE, IF AT ALL, THE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL IS CONSIDERING.

CONSIDER A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT.

SO IF THEY ARE SAYING SOMETHING AS A NOT A SOURCE OR A MINOR SOURCE, AND THAT IS HOW WE TYPICALLY AS A CITY PUT OUR INFORMATION OUT OR TRY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEY'RE LISTENING. WE DON'T MESS UP AT ALL OR WE DON'T GET ANYTHING FROM THAT.

YOU CAN PRETTY WELL ESTABLISH THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT VERY ENGAGED.

ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF IT'S A MAJOR SOURCE AND WHAT WE CONSIDER A MAJOR SOURCE FOR PUTTING OUT INFORMATION THAT MATCHES WITH WHAT THEY FEEL IS A MAJOR SOURCE FOR GETTING THEIR INFORMATION, YOU CAN PROBABLY ESTABLISH THAT THEY ARE THEY AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INFORMED.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. YEAH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO MOVE ON IT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET A PRIORITY. SOME WONDERING IF WE WAIT TILL THIS REPORT COMPLETELY COMES OUT AND THEN OR SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO BRIAN SO WE CAN ANSWER THEM.

BECAUSE WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, TO BE HONEST, IS I WANT YOUR PRIORITY SO I KNOW WHERE MY MARCHING ORDERS ARE FOR THE FUTURE, AND HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION WILL HELP.

I SHOULDN'T PUT THIS CANDY IN MY KNOWLEDGE THAT HOPEFULLY THIS CONVERSATION WILL HELP INFORM YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OUTCOMES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AFTERNOON IS PUT IN PLACE THE GUARDRAILS.

SO IT'S NOT TELLING SARAH AND THE STAFF WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO.

IT'S TELLING THEM WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO ACHIEVE, DESCRIBING THE OUTCOMES FOR THE FOCUS AREAS THAT ARE PART OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

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SO LAST NIGHT I ENDED THE SESSION WITH YOU ALL PUTTING UP A BUNCH OF STICKY NOTES ABOUT WHAT YOU HOPE WILL BE TRUE TEN YEARS FROM NOW.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN BLUE ARE ALREADY TRUE, AND THE THINGS THAT WERE IN YELLOW OR CHARTREUSE WERE THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE BUT YOU HOPED WOULD BE TRUE.

AND I'LL NEED YOUR HELP TO SET UP THE PICTURE.

AND SO WHAT I DID HERE WAS I'VE OVERLAID THE OUTCOME AREAS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL THEM RIGHT NOW, COLORS FROM YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH, FIRST OF ALL.

THE WITH THE OUTCOME AREAS ARE.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW I'VE KIND OF CLUSTERED SOME THINGS TO SHARE SOME INSIGHTS INTO WHAT'S HERE SO THAT YOU HAVE FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY, ENHANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY, PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE, SUPPORT HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES, AND PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE FIRST THING I DID WAS, OKAY, HERE'S A STICKY NOTE THAT I THINK RELATES, AND YOU CAN TELL ME THAT I PUT THEM IN THE WRONG BUCKET.

WE CAN MOVE THEM AROUND. BUT I JUST TRIED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF HOW DOES THIS HOW DOES WHAT YOU ALL SAID THAT YOU HOPE WILL BE DONE IN FUTURE RELATE TO THESE BUCKETS? SO UNDER FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY, THERE WAS A LOT.

THE ONLY ONE THAT PEOPLE IDENTIFIED THAT WAS TRUE TODAY WAS THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD EMPLOYMENT POOL, A LARGE EMPLOYEE POOL.

THINGS THAT YOU HOPE WOULD BE TRUE IN THE FUTURE IS THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE WEALTH INCREASE.

AM I AVERAGE? MEDIUM INCOME AFFORDABILITY? HIGHER WAGES? YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE TEN CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS LOCATED HERE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REALIZED AND DEVELOPED OUR POTENTIAL AND THAT WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE TAX BASE IN GROWTH.

SO I KIND OF PUT THOSE THERE IN THAT BUCKET THAT A GREAT PLACE TO YOU ENHANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.

THERE WERE TWO THAT SOUNDED LIKE THEY FIT HERE HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES TO DRIVING AND A GREAT ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE.

WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT PUBLIC WORKS AND SERVICES AND INNOVATION SEEM TO CONNECT THEIR GROWTH, SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

FOCUS ON SUSTAINABILITY, SUPPORT HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES.

SAYING I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE ANY THAT TO ME SAID STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

BUT YOU ALL MAY TELL ME TO START MOVING SOME THINGS HERE AS I START WORKING THROUGH WHAT'S LEFT, BECAUSE I'M NOT I'M ALSO MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY COMMUNITY SERVICES.

SO LET'S START AND SEE IF WE HAVE PLACES FOR THESE THINGS OR IF THERE'S A GAP THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER, LIKE, ARE THESE THE RIGHT OUTCOME AREAS? BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF HIGH LEVEL POLICY.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE.

SO THE GROUP DOWN HERE, DIVERSITY DIVERSE.

IT SAYS COMPASSIONATE AND DIVERSE, ECLECTIC AND MAYBE BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE FUTURE.

AND THEN THIS ONE SAYS LESS RACIALLY DIVERSE.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THAT RELATES TO THIS, BUT THEY BOTH HAD PART OF THE WORD DIVERSE THERE.

SO I PUT IT THERE. YES.

SO I'M GOING TO BE THE SKUNK OF THE ROOM ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.

GOOD. THE THE EXERCISE YESTERDAY WAS LIGHTHEARTED IN THE SORT OF SENSE IT WAS THE SERIOUSLY.

WHAT ARE YOUR SORT OF. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PUPPIES.

THAT'S FINE. WE PUT THEM IN SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENT.

THE BUT BUT THIS WAS SORT OF SORT OF ASPIRATIONAL BIG PICTURE.

AND YET THESE CATEGORIES ARE MORE SERIOUS THAN THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THE OF THE WORD BUBBLE EXERCISE WITH OUR STRATEGIC GOALS SO WE'RE NOT DONE.

WHAT I'M GOING OVER RIGHT NOW IS WHAT'S UP HERE.

AND TO THE DEGREE THIS IS WHAT YOU HOPE WILL BE TRUE IN THE FUTURE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES, HOW DO WE WHAT DO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SO? LIKE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS? SO IF THESE ARE ARE YOUR BUCKETS OR ARE THERE BUCKETS THAT ARE MISSING? SO IT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE EXERCISE WAS TO PERHAPS VALIDATE.

AND I THINK IN MANY CASES YOU HAVE SAID THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND PERHAPS IDENTIFY GAPS IN YOUR CURRENT OUTCOMES.

SO THERE'S NO I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD.

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I MEAN, I APPRECIATE IT THAT SOME PEOPLE TOOK IT LIGHTHEARTED AND SAID PUPPIES.

BUT THIS IS THE ANSWERS THAT ARE HERE, I THINK ARE CERTAINLY GUIDING YOU TOWARDS WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE.

SO THIS BUCKET AROUND DIVERSITY, THERE'S A BUCKET HERE ABOUT WHAT I HEARD YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT, WHICH WAS THE FIELD.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE HAVE YOU DONE? OKAY. SO KIND OF THE FEEL FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE SMALL ENOUGH TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS, COMMUNITY SMALL ENOUGH TO MAKE CHANGES AND IMPACT THE FUTURE.

THERE'S A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE UNIQUE COMMUNITY CHARACTER.

IT FEELS LIKE A SMALL, TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SMALL TOWN FEEL.

AND WE STILL WANT TO BE THAT WAY IN TEN YEARS AND MAYBE EVEN MORE ENGAGEMENT.

SO I KIND OF PUT ALL THEM TOGETHER.

DO THEY SOUND RELATED TO YOU? YEAH. AND THEN HERE ARE SOME ONES THAT I DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE TO PUT, AND YOU CAN TELL ME TO START MOVING THINGS AROUND.

THOUGHTFUL. FAMILY DESTINATION.

THAT'S CANADIAN. THAT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY.

AND I SEE THIS AND I SEE IT AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN MORE THAN ONE BUCKET.

WELL, WHEN I LEARN TO PUT STICKY NOTES IN THREE DIMENSIONS, I'LL BE ABLE TO RETIRE.

AND I HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT. SO I'LL TRY TO FIND THIS BEST HOME.

SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S IT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY PEACE? I DON'T KNOW WHO THE AUTHOR OF THOSE KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARE.

WE GET THERE. WHAT ABOUT IF I IF I DON'T SEE IF YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND IN MY BACK IS TO PLEASE SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I CANNOT SEE A ARTISTIC, VIBRANT ARTS COMMUNITY.

WHAT'S THAT ABOUT? DOES IT GO SOMEWHERE OR IS IT IS IT MISSING RIGHT NOW? QUITE LIFE. YEAH. SO THE ART STUFF IS QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO WE'LL PUT IT HERE. STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

I'D SAY THAT FOR ALMOST ALL THOSE CHARACTER UNIQUE FEEL THAT BUCKET MIGHT BE A QUALITY OF LIFE BUCKET TO IT COULD BE WRONG.

MAYBE IT'S ITS OWN THING. SO TELL ME HEADACHE.

WELL, TELL ME YOU I MEAN, YOU ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO MAKE A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION TODAY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO REVEAL, I'VE LEARNED IN THIS WORK THAT THERE'S JUST TWO KINDS OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD LUMBERS AND SPLITTERS.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LUMP THINGS TOGETHER AND IT ALL FITS.

AND THEN THERE'S PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPLIT IT APART.

SO WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHO YOU ARE LATER.

TELL ME WHAT YOU ALL MEAN WHEN YOU SAY COMMUNITY SERVICES.

WHAT IS THAT? WHAT ARE COMMUNITY SERVICES? PARKS. PARKS, RECREATION.

OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE QUALITY OF YOUR THE ESTHETICS OF YOUR CITY BEAUTIFICATION.

SO THE ARTISTIC, THE VIBRANT ARTS COMMUNITY DOES FIT THERE IN TERMS OF LIKE THE THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES OK PERFECT.

DOES THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY STUFF FIT THERE OR IS IT ITS OWN THING? LIKE IS AN OUTCOME THAT YOU WANT IS TO HAVE A HOMETOWN FEEL OR A SENSE OF COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING DIVERSE, ENGAGED OR INCLUSIVE AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IS THAT WHAT THIS IS TELLING ME? YES. WELL, I THINK IT GOES MORE TO THE LATTER, TO YOUR QUESTION, QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HEAR OFTENTIMES IF YOU GO TO ROBERTSON ROBESON RANCH IS THAT PEOPLE MOVE THERE AND INSTANTLY HAVE MAYBE MORE PEOPLE TALK TO THEM IN A WEEK THAN THEY'VE TALKED TO IN THEIR ENTIRE TIME.

WHEREVER ELSE THEY LIVE.

THERE'S JUST THAT SORT OF QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT WELCOMING, THAT ALL KIND OF GOES TOGETHER AND YOU HEAR THAT REPEATEDLY.

AND I THINK THAT REALLY IS WHAT IS, ESPECIALLY NOW WHEN PEOPLE CAN WORK WHEREVER AND LIVE WHEREVER THAT IS KIND OF THAT.

THAT'S A DISTINGUISHED MOMENT WHEN I GET THERE.

DO I FEEL COMFORTABLE AND DO I SEE OTHER PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME, THEY'RE ENGAGING OR THAT ARE DON'T LOOK LIKE ME AND ENGAGING.

EITHER WAY, THAT ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT IS IS QUALITY OF LIFE.

YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, MY KIDS ARE OKAY PLAYING THOSE SORT OF THINGS.

OTHERS HOW DO YOU REFLECT ON THE SMALL TOWN FEEL BIG? I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND A BIG PART OF WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS DIVERSITY.

HOW DOES THAT FIT FOR YOU ALL? THERE I HEARD HIM SAY IT KIND OF COULD COULD GO RIGHT THERE AND QUALITY OF LIFE ALONG WITH ARTS.

YES, JESSE.

SO THE NATURE OF THE EXERCISE, THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOARD NOW, THEY WERE A THUMPING EXERCISE.

IT WAS WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS, A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

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AND THEY NEED TO FIT IN SOME CATEGORIES.

RIGHT. I DON'T AT FIRST I KIND OF LOOKED AT THOSE AND THOUGHT, WELL, THESE THIS IS QUALITY OF LIFE.

IF YOU HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE, THEN YOU HAVE THESE CHARACTERISTICS, YOU HAVE THESE CHARACTERISTICS AND YOU HAVE GOOD QUALITY LIFE.

BUT I THINK WE EITHER NEED TO HAVE THAT BE ITS OWN THING OR RECOGNIZE IT AS KIND OF A META THING THAT WE ARE ALWAYS ALL GOING TO SAY.

WE'RE ALL PEOPLE WHO RAN ON THE BALLOT.

WE HAD TO COMMUNICATE WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE ABOUT OUR VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND HOW WE HOW WE SEE THINGS.

WE ALL HAVE THE IDEA THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DEAD AND THEN WE DON'T WANT TO MESS UP WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS.

THAT MAY BE LIKE A META OVERARCHING THING.

IT MAY NOT BE ITS OWN BUCKET.

AND AGAIN, IF WE HAVE THINGS THAT FIT IN THAT BUCKET, THAT ARE POLICY AREAS OR PRIORITIES THAT ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL, THAT WORK TOWARDS THAT, MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE IN SOME BUCKET. BUT IF IT'S JUST A SHARED, THE IDEA THAT WE ALL SHARE THE VISION THAT DENTON IS A SPECIFIC, UNIQUE, HAS ITS OWN CHARACTER KIND OF PLACE, AND WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT.

AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST KIND OF A BIGGER, A BIGGER META THING AND NOT A POLICY BUCKET.

I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO LOVE QUALITY OF LIFE IN WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES BECAUSE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, AFFORDABILITY, INFRASTRUCTURE, MOBILITY, SUSTAINABILITY, HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES, ALL OF THAT CONTRIBUTES REALLY IN A REALLY SIGNIFICANT WAY TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

QUALITY OF LIFE. I WAS BRINGING UP EARLIER THAT THE WORD BUBBLE EXERCISE.

WE DIDN'T KNOW THE GOALS YOU JUST SAID PAST THE FUTURE.

AND IF THE GOALS ARE GOING TO BE ALIGNED WITH THIS, THAT WE WOULD HAVE ANSWERED DIFFERENTLY.

THE PROFESSOR WHO'S ARGUING WITH HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T GET TO DESIGN THE TEST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY VALID WAY OF DOING THE WORK.

OK YOU WANT THE STUDENT TO PARTICIPATE OR SELL THE BOOKS BACK IN THE BOOKSTORE? WE CAN PARTICIPATE WITHOUT QUESTIONING WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. WE CAN.

WE CAN. WE CAN GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

WHAT WAS WHAT WAS JUST THE THING ABOUT EFFICIENCY? I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CATEGORIES.

EFFICIENCY. THAT'S A VALUE.

WELCOME TO MY WELCOME TO YOUR BOOK.

YEAH. SO QUALITY OF LIFE IS ALSO KIND OF THIS META OUTCOME.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT METRIC, HOW WE HOW WE ORGANIZE AROUND IT.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND TIME IS DEFINING WHAT WE MEAN BY THIS.

WHAT DO WE MEAN IN DENTON WHEN WE SAY STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE? AND YOU ALL ARE GOING TO SPEND TIME THIS AFTERNOON DEFINING THAT.

SO WHEN THE STAFF IS THINKING ABOUT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AND PROJECTS, THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD UP AGAINST THESE BUCKETS AND SAY, ARE WE ACHIEVING THESE OUTCOMES? ARE WE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS SET? SO MY PURPOSE IS TO MAKE SURE THE OUTCOMES ARE THE RIGHT OUTCOMES.

WE HAVEN'T ACCIDENTALLY LEFT ANYTHING OUT, AND IF WE CAN LUMP EVERYTHING INTO THESE, WE CAN OR WE CAN CREATE NEW BUCKETS.

THIS IS FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE.

SO I'M GOING TO WRITE QUALITY OF LIFE SEPARATE AND THESE ARE ON A DIFFERENT COLOR AND WE'LL JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

AND I WANT TO FINISH READING THE ONES THAT I HAVEN'T READ.

ALSO, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THESE TWO IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES UP HERE.

GOOD CORE VALUES.

OPEN COLLABORATION.

A RETURN TO HEALTHY TENSION.

CHANGE TO TERM LIMITS.

THOUGHTFULLY OUT THERE.

HEALTHY TENSION WHEN YOU CAN PUT THAT WITH THE CHARACTER.

I CAN EXPLAIN THAT LATER. THE CHARACTER, THIS ONE OVER HERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THIS ONE JUST SAYS, WE HAVE GREAT POTENTIAL.

I THINK SO.

TERM LIMITS IS MINE.

AND I THINK I COULD SEE IT IN THE.

IT'S MORE OF A FUNCTION OF CONSISTENCY, BUT SO I DON'T SEE ONE THAT JUMPS OUT AT ME OBVIOUSLY.

BUT I THINK IF I HAD TO BASE IT THERE, MAYBE THE ENHANCED INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY BY POTENTIALLY JUST LIKE WHAT WE HEARD YESTERDAY, JUST KIND OF A REMIXING OF HOW THE OFFICE IS A FIELD 4 TO 3 TO THIS TO THAT KIND OF A WAY TO FIND A MORE SUSTAINABLE WAY THAN HALF THE COUNCIL IS UP FOR ELECTION EVERY OTHER YEAR AND IT JUST KIND OF THAT CONSISTENCY FOR STAFF REALLY.

[02:55:02]

WELL, I WONDER IF SO.

I MEAN, SO THAT'S A POTENTIAL OUTCOME OR A POTENTIAL MECHANISM OF GETTING TO AN OUTCOME THAT WILL BE THAT WAS THE SPIRIT WAS WITHIN TEN YEARS. YES, EXACTLY.

WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF THERE IS A BUCKET THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE AROUND LEADERSHIP AND AROUND EUROPE, WHICH COULD BE RESPECTFUL OF COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP.

IT COULD BE ABOUT EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE.

I MEAN, IS THIS ABOUT YOU ALL BEING OPEN, COLLABORATIVE, THOUGHTFUL, HAVING GOOD CORE VALUES? I THINK YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE INTENDED.

YEAH, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO YOU GUYS GET TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU? I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK BECAUSE IT GIVES GIVE SOME RESOURCE IF SOMEONE'S LOOKING TO JOIN AND RUN.

HEY, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS IT? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS IT TO BE TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY IN THE COMMUNITY? I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A NOBLE GOAL TO HAVE NOTED.

CAN I MOVE MY CHURCH? HERE'S ONE BACK THEN FROM THE DETENTION.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUCKET FOR THAT.

I SEE THAT AS A DEEPLY INGRAINED PART OF OUR CULTURE.

AND THEN WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WE'VE NEVER BEEN A HOMOGENEOUS, ONE SIZE FITS ALL TOWN.

NEVER, EVER. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN RURAL VERSUS SUBURBAN OR TOWN VERSUS GOWN OR WHATEVER.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOME KIND OF TENSION.

AND I THINK A HEALTHY TENSION IS WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

SO YOUR LEADERSHIP BUCKET, I THINK, IS REALLY GOOD FOR US, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO A REALLY GOOD ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.

FOR THE EXAMPLE WE SET FOR THE REST OF THE CITY AND THE WAY THAT WE DEAL WITH CONSTITUENTS AND TALK TO PEOPLE, I JUST THOUGHT, DOES IT SEEM LIKE A GOOD BUCKET TO MAYBE ADD YET? I BELIEVE I'M THE ONE THAT PUT THE CORE VALUE THERE.

I WANT TO JUST KNOW I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT OUR CORE VALUES TODAY.

I THINK THAT IF WE CAN AS LEADERS AND NEW LEADERS COME IN AND CYCLE ON AT ALL, BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE'VE TAKEN SOME OF THESE SOME OF THESE WORDS AND PUT PUTTING THEM ON PAPER AND ALLOW THAT TO HELP GUIDE US INTO SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LETTERHEAD, WE CAN SEND OUT LETTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AT THE BOTTOM OF IT ALWAYS NOTES OUR CORE, CORE VALUES.

AND SO WITH WITHIN ALL OF THAT TYPING AND WRITING AND IN COMMUNICATING STILL AT THE BOTTOM, WE WANT TO STAY WITHIN THOSE CORE VALUES.

SO WHOEVER IS COMING ON THIS IN THIS POSITION, THEY SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL OF THE CORE VALUES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY SO TRUE.

SO SO IS THIS BUCKET THEN.

THAT IS WHERE I'M TRYING.

SO THIS BUCKET, ANYBODY QUESTION THE BUCKET? DOES IT SEEM LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS THAT THIS SHOULD BE A BUCKET? JESSE I LIKE IT AS A BUCKET FOR THE WORD BUBBLES.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN ESPECIALLY USEFUL BUCKET FOR SETTING BUDGET PRIORITIES AND AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

A WAY WE OUGHT TO DEAL WITH EACH OTHER AND DO OUR JOBS 100%.

THAT'S A GOOD BUCKET TO HAVE.

BUT INFRASTRUCTURE, MOBILITY, THAT TELLS ME WHAT TO DO.

THAT RELATES TO THE SURVEY AND THAT RELATES TO WHAT PEOPLE WANT US TO DO AND THE JOB THAT WE HAVE IN THE CHARTER.

ANOTHER ONE, AGAIN, KIND OF MORE MORE META IN JUST A GOOD A GOOD IDEA AND A THING TO DO.

NOT NECESSARILY A POLICY PRIORITY, RIGHT? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO COSIGN ON THAT.

I THINK WE'VE GOT TO DECIDE ON WHAT THE GOALS ARE.

AND I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CULTURAL GOALS WITHIN COUNCIL OR WITHIN THE CMO'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER THAT IS, AS YOU SAID IN THAT ANALYSIS.

AND WHERE WHERE DO WE STAND AND WHAT'S OUR CULTURE? BUT THERE'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CLEAR DIRECTION FOR STAFF.

THEY CAN'T INFLUENCE THAT.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT.

HONESTLY JUST REFLEXIVE INTROSPECTION FOR US.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF THE GOAL.

I'M NOT TRYING TO KNOCK IT OFF THE SHELF HERE, BUT I COMPLETELY CONCUR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF STAFF PRIORITIES IS WHAT THIS EXERCISE IS FOR, THEN THEN I THINK WE'RE MUDDYING THE WATERS A LITTLE BIT.

WELL, SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, YES, STAFF PRIORITIES.

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S ALSO STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO ACHIEVE.

SO IN SOME IN SOME RESPECTS, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU DO IT.

AND THIS IS MAYBE MORE OF A HOW YOU DO IT PIECE AND MAYBE THAT SPEAKS TO YOUR VALUES.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO RESTATE IT BECAUSE THE VALUE IS ALREADY THERE.

SO I CAN TAKE ALL OF THESE OFF AND I CAN KIND OF MOVE THEM TO THE BACKPACK HERE AND WE CAN JUST ACKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

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AND SOMETIMES THIS CAN AND IT CAN BE BROADER AND BE ABOUT INTER-GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS AND HOW YOU RELATE TO OTHER COMMUNITIES AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO YOU ALL IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR YOUR OUTCOMES.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE. YES, I THINK I THINK IT DOES BELONG I COULD BE IN THE MINORITY FOR SURE, BUT I THINK IT DOES BELONG BECAUSE WHAT I FOUND IS FROM BOTH CITY MANAGERS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN THIS CAPACITY, IT IS THAT THEY NEED A LEVEL TO HOLD ELECTEDS ACCOUNTABLE.

SO WHEN YOU COME IN AND SAY FOR YOUR ORIENTATION, THAT IS A CORE KIND OF DISCUSSION POINT.

HEY, HERE'S WHAT'S COMMITTED BY THIS BODY THAT YOU'RE JOINING.

SO WELCOME TO THE TEAM.

PLEASE. RIGHT.

SET YOUR MIND TO THESE THINGS.

RIGHT. AND SO AND THEN WHEN THERE'S A CONFLICT LIKE, HEY, LOOK, WE AGREED THAT THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT COULD BE IN A 101 IF IT'S WITH ME IN THE CITY MANAGER WHICH SAYS, HEY, YOU AGREED THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AND YOU'RE NOT HOLDING UP YOUR END OF THE BARGAIN.

AND STAFF IS ASK ME IS TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT, SO I'M TALKING TO YOU ABOUT IT.

SO I THINK IT IS JUST KIND OF A A TOOL, IF YOU WILL, FOR STAFF TO HOLD ELECTED OFFICIAL WHERE IN ORDER TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, WHERE IT MAY NOT BE THERE IN OUR CORE PRINCIPLES BEFORE.

AND IT WON'T. AND IT'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION, IT'S JUST MY READ.

SO I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SAY MAYBE IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID, YEAH, IT KIND OF SPEAKS TO SOMETHING ELSE.

ALISON BRANDON, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU GUYS AND CHRIS I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

I WONDER IF MAYBE WE COULD YOU'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT THAT I'M COMBINER I WONDER IF WE CAN KIND OF LUMP THAT IN UNDERNEATH ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE THAT THAT THE WAY THAT WE AS A COUNCIL WORK TOGETHER IMPACTS THE WAY THAT THE ORGANIZATION. SO KIND OF BUILD THOSE TWO TOGETHER.

THAT'S A FAIR POINT. I LIKE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. FREEMAN Y'ALL DOING THE WORK? THAT'S GOOD STUFF. BRANDON WE THINK I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD AT THIS POINT.

CHRIS I LIKE THE LAST SUGGESTION.

I THINK IT'S IT'S MORE SYNERGISTIC AND IS MORE DESCRIPTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ACHIEVE BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU DON'T REALLY SEPARATE THE COUNCIL FROM THE STAFF ORGANIZATIONALLY AND KIND OF PHILOSOPHICALLY.

YOU CAN DO IT, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER, THE TEAM WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT TEAMWORK BRINGS WITH IT, WHICH IS GOOD THINGS AND CHALLENGES. BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TRY TO THINK ABOUT HOW CAN WE THINK ABOUT THEM MORE TOGETHER? WHAT WORDS WOULD YOU USE IF WE START LUMPING HERE? PURSUE. RESPECTFUL AND COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP.

RESPECTFUL, COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE THROUGH RESPECTFUL AND COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP.

WOW. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HANDING THE HALF A ROOM EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. I'LL MAKE SURE I'M NOT PHOTOGRAPHING.

ALL RIGHT. JUST SO YOU KNOW, ISN'T THE WORD AND AMAZING.

IT'S BETTER THAN THE THE OTHER WORD.

WHICH. BUT, YES, WHICH GIVES IT LIKE, WELL, I'M NOT AGREEING WITH YOU.

BUT THE END IS ALWAYS GOOD.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

I YEAH, LIKE.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL WORDS.

POWERFUL, MOST POWERFUL CONTRACTIONS.

I WILL OFTENTIMES THINK ABOUT IT WHATEVER IS COMING AFTER BUT IS GOING TO KICK WHATEVER'S BUT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO I SEE BLOOD AS A POWERFUL CONTRACTION BECAUSE YOU JUST OVERCAME WHATEVER IT WAS.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE LUMPED THIS THESE CONCEPTS TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S HAPPY.

LET'S TALK ABOUT IF WE SEPARATE QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH WAS ALSO AN IDEA, THEN WOULD WE SET SOMEONE TO BE LIKE VALUED COMMUNITY SERVICES? IS THAT THE OTHER BUCKET THAT WE PUT THE ART STUFF IN? AND WHAT'S THE QUALITY OF LIFE PIECE? IS THAT THE SMALL TOWN FEEL? IS THAT THE WAY TO SAY? DO YOU KNOW THAT SOME STICKY NOTE BRANDS WON'T STICK TO OTHERS?

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WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK WE'RE GETTING REALLY MESSY HERE WITH THE USE OF THE PHRASE COMMUNITY SERVICES.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT DOES VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT DON'T INVOLVE THE ARTS.

OKAY, WELL, THEN LET'S.

SO WHAT IF IT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE OR SOMETHING? BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU, IT SHOULD BE STRENGTHENED COMMUNITY, NOT COMMUNITY SERVICES.

STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES, MEANING YOU'RE TRYING TO STRENGTHEN YOUR COMMUNITY THROUGH DIFFERENT EFFORTS.

COMMUNITY SERVICES. YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY POWERFUL AND LARGE BUCKET.

IF IT STRENGTHENED COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE, THEN ALL OF THIS STUFF GOES THERE.

DO THE ARTS STILL GO THERE? YEAH, I THINK SO.

WHAT ABOUT THE DIVERSITY STUFF? I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT.

MY CONCERN WITH ARTS IS IT'S IT'S A BIT POLARIZED AND I JUST USE THAT AS I USE JUST THAT.

LOOK AT THE DATA ITSELF.

WE HAD A BOND ELECTION AND THE ARTS WAS THE ONLY PART THAT FAILED.

I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE PASSED FROM MEMORY.

SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF YOU LIKE IT, YOU LOVE IT, BUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, IT'S POLARIZING.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT GETS HARD TO COMBINE IT.

SO ARE YOU SAYING WHEN YOU TALK IN QUALITY OF LIFE AND SOME OF THOSE SOME OF THOSE COMBINING FEATURES AND AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT OUT BY ITSELF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BOND ELECTION.

SO FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, I DON'T HAVE A SOLVE FOR THAT.

YOU JUST POINTED OUT THAT, WELL, IF OUR NEXT STEP IS REALLY TO DEFINE WHAT YOU ALL MEAN BY THE TERM, STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE, THEN AND WE PUT ART THERE THEN I'M IMAGINING THERE'S GOING TO BE A BULLET POINT OR SOME NOD TO THE ARTS IN SOME WAY. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HAVE TO.

IT DOESN'T. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAS TO BE DIVISIVE AS A STATEMENT.

BRYAN, I WOULD REMIND US THAT THE IN IN THE CRUDE, STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT SURVEY, AS I WAS SAYING, PRELIMINARY. I'M ONLY TEASING.

I BELIEVE HIS OUTPUT WAS 25.

BUT BUT NO, THE POINT IS THAT THAT ARTS WAS WAY UP THERE.

AND IN TERMS OF A OF A CATEGORY THAT WAS VALUED IN THIS IN THE SURVEY.

SO AND IT'S WHAT HONESTLY DISTINGUISHES US FROM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DIVISIVE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF ART.

LIKE, NOT EVERYBODY AGREES WHAT IS ART AND THAT'S ART.

SO I THINK THAT IT JUST GOES TO THE POINT THAT ART BUILDS CULTURE AND QUALITY OF LIFE, NOT TO ADD.

BUT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS USED A PHRASE THAT WE DON'T USE A WHOLE LOT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY CLEARLY AN ISSUE THAT THERE IS A TOWN GOWN DIVIDE IN THE CITY.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ARTS, THE CITY IS NOT PARTICULARLY INVOLVED IN THE ART SCENE.

THE UNIVERSITY IS.

AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT HERE IS, YEAH, WE'RE A FUNKY ARTISTIC MUSIC TOWN, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE COLLEGES.

THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY OR THE REAL THAT NIGHT OR THEIR CULTURE.

YEAH, JUST A LITTLE HEALTHY TENSION AND.

OKAY, GOOD. I THINK I THINK I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR WHEN HE SAYS IT CAN BE DIVISIVE WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO HOW MUCH TAX MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND ON IT, LIKE HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH IS THE CITY GOING TO PUT INTO AN ART SCENE? AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE IT HAS GROWN PRETTY ORGANICALLY.

I MEAN, NONE OF THE TOWN FOUNDERS IN THEIR OTHER TOWN FATHERS AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, PROMOTING THE WONDERFUL WHEAT GROWING AND COTTON GROWING CHARACTERISTICS OF DENTON COUNTY PUT IN THERE.

AND WE'VE GOT A FUNKY ART SCENE THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE IT JUST HAS SOME OTHER FORM, RIGHT? WELL, AND SOME FARMERS GAVE SOME LAND FOR A UNIVERSITY AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I WILL SAY THAT PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT.

THE UNIVERSITY ITSELF IS ALSO WINDING BACK FUNDING FOR THINGS AND NOT SUPPORTING THINGS THAT THEY'VE TRADITIONALLY SUPPORTED IN THE CITIES, HAVING TO STEP IN WITH SOME THINGS.

WE ALSO GIVE A LOT OF IN-KIND TO SOME ARTS EVENTS.

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WE'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF SOME ARTS EVENTS.

SO WE HAVE OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT NOW THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND SOME MONEY TO GET GOING AND HOPEFULLY GOING TO OPEN UP SOME REVENUE STREAMS. BUT EVEN IF PEOPLE DISAGREE ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ON IT, HOW MUCH TAX MONEY? ASK ANYBODY ABOUT DENTON.

DESCRIBE DENTON FOR ME. AND ARTS IS GOING TO BE UP THERE AND IT MAY BE DIFFERENT KIND OF ART LIKES, BUT IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE CONVERSATION WHETHER THEY ACTUALLY GO LISTEN TO LIVE MUSIC OR NOT, WHETHER THEY EVER COME TO ARTS, JAZZ OR NOT, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY IT'S PART OF IT.

CHRIS THIS IS A LITTLE OFF SUBJECT, BUT SPEAKING OF ART, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE WONDERFUL YOU DO IT. I'M NOT KIDDING YOU.

I MEAN, I THINK IT IS VERY WONDERFUL.

I THINK IT'S VERY JUST THE TALENT IS AMAZING.

AND I SO APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ON TO SEE HOW WE PUT IN THERE.

AWESOME. GREAT.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE APPRECIATING IT.

I APPRECIATE IT ALSO.

OK. SO I'VE GOT SIX POTENTIAL OUTCOME AREAS, WHICH IS KIND OF WHERE WE STARTED.

WE JUST TWEAKED ONE, STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE INSTEAD OF SOMETHING ELSE.

AND OTHERWISE EVERYTHING HAS SEEMED TO HAVE FOUND A HOME.

DO YOU LIKE THESE BUCKETS? OH, WE ALSO TWEAK THIS ONE, PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE THROUGH RESPECTFUL AND COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP.

YOU SAY INCLUDING INSTEAD OF THROUGH.

YES. PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL.

HOW ABOUT IF YOU SAID PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND RESPECTFUL, COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE IS.

THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS OF ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE BESIDES THE LEADERSHIP PART OF IT.

YEAH. LIKE THE INNOVATION.

YEAH. I'M GOING TO TWEAK, REWRITE IT, I THINK.

ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THIS ONE? I DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.

SO I'VE BEEN WAITING TO SEE IF SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

OKAY. SO LET'S LISTEN TO LET'S LISTEN TO THIS ONE CONVERSATION.

I'LL CALL YOU IN A MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, BRANDON. DIVERSITY FOR ME NEEDS TO BE TRUE.

IT NEEDS TO BE UNDER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AFFORDABILITY.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, TEXAS IS ALREADY MAJORITY BLACK AND BROWN.

65% OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE ARE BLACK AND BROWN.

AND IN TEN YEARS, WE KNOW THAT 68% OF THE WORLD IS GOING TO BE YOUNG WOMEN IF TRENDS ARE TRUE.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY PORTABILITY, WE'VE GOT TO PUT THAT.

WE'VE GOT TO PUT DIVERSITY UNDER THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING, WHERE THE MONEY RESIDES, AND IN BEING DIVERSE.

FOR ME, DIVERSITY, THE STRENGTH OF DIVERSITY COMES FROM FOCUSING ON ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

WHEN I WROTE THAT DOWN, THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING.

IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ME.

ULTIMATELY, BASED OFF THE SURVEY RESULTS, IF WE'RE NOT DOING AS GREAT AS WE NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOUBLING DOWN ON BEING DIVERSE, MAKING SURE THAT DIVERSITY IS A PRIORITY FOR US.

LET'S TALK THROUGH SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S WAY OF DIVERSITY, OF COMPASSIONATE AND DIVERSE, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A FEEL TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW, JUST DIVERSITY.

AND WE HAVE ECLECTIC AND THEN WE HAVE LESS RACIALLY DIVERSE.

LET'S LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU KIND OF IS IS DIVERSITY A PART OF WHO YOU ARE? IS THAT HOW DO YOU WANT TO GRAB IT? IT DOESN'T MEAN IT ALSO CAN'T SHOW UP IN TERMS OF REALIZING POTENTIAL IN ECONOMY.

I'M JUST WONDERING HOW HOW DO YOU WANT HOW ARE YOU ALL THINKING ABOUT DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY YET? SO TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OFF OF WHAT I SEE BRANDON DOING OR WHAT I'M INTERPRETING HIM TO DO IS HE'S TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING CHRIS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, WHICH IS THE SYNERGIES BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT STRATEGIC PLAN ELEMENTS.

AND WE PUT THAT INTO OUR PLAN.

WE LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR SYNERGIES.

AND SO LIKE THE SUSTAINABILITY ONE OFF, THEY'RE DOWN BY ITSELF.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF OUR CORE STRATEGIC GOALS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY SUCCESSFUL ON ONE OF THE FEW CITIES IN TEXAS THAT'S PUSHING IT QUITE AS HARD AS WE ARE, ESPECIALLY IN THE ENERGY FRONT.

AND YET IT'S GOT A SINGLE POST-IT NOTE AND YET IT RELATES TO ALMOST EVERY OTHER CATEGORIES, BUT ESPECIALLY CHRIS'S IDEAS ABOUT THE ELECTRIC ELECTRIFICATION AND OTHER THINGS.

THESE ALL RELATE TO OUR OUR OUR ECONOMIC VITALITY AND DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY.

SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SYNERGIES HERE OR ARE WE SAYING OUR CATEGORIES?

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ARE WE SAYING OUR NEW STRATEGIC PLANS? I MEAN, I DON'T I GUESS I'M COMING BACK OUT TO WHAT CREAM IS FLOATING OFF OF THIS THIS RAW MILK.

WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GET HERE? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CREAM.

SO WHAT IS IT? I WANT TO SAY IT'S FOLKSY.

WHAT IS OUR GOAL? YOU DIDN'T. YOU DIDN'T LIKE WHEN I WAS.

I'LL PREFACE EARLY.

WHAT IS SO I'D BE FOLKSY.

WHAT IS IT? APPARENTLY NOT TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL ITEMS. AND SHE DID THAT WELL.

SHE NATURAL TO HER.

I LEFT FOR ARKANSAS AS WELL.

SO SO I'M SERIOUS.

I WHEN WE SAY I HAVE THIS GOAL, THIS GOAL, THIS GOAL, THIS GOAL, WE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE JUST DRIFTING AROUND AND CHANGING CATEGORIES AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BUILD CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE'RE IDENTIFYING THINGS THAT ARE JUST SORT OF FLOATING BETWEEN CATEGORIES.

AND ULTIMATELY, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS MY TURN, A BUTTLOAD OF ENERGY WENT INTO THAT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR CATEGORIES.

THAT'S AN EVERY FEW YEARS THING.

THEN, THEN WHAT I I'M BEING VERY FRUSTRATED HERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE VALUE OF THE EXERCISE THAT WE'RE DOING AND I PURPOSELY REVISITING IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO WASTE OUR TIME IF WE'RE TRYING TO DIAL IN TO SOMETHING OF VALUE.

THE PURPOSE OF THE EXERCISE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOVERNING BODY, THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT IS NEWLY COME TOGETHER, FEELS CONNECTED TO THE OUTCOMES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE EXERCISE.

SUGGESTION WHICH YOU'RE WELCOME TO REJECT AS OUR OUR FACILITATOR, COULD WE MAYBE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE SOME NEW STICKY NOTES NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING? YOU COULD. YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AGAIN, LIKE TO WHAT END? SO, YES, WE COULD WRITE NEW STICKY NOTES.

WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THAT YOU THAT THAT THAT'S GOING TO HELP US ACHIEVE? WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN I WAS THINKING OK, WHAT THINGS ABOUT DENTON DO I LOVE? AND I WROTE VIBRANT ARTS COMMUNITY.

IF I WERE INSTEAD THINKING ABOUT WHAT GOALS DO I THINK CITY GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE OR WHAT IS CITY GOVERNMENT DOING? WELL, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE INCLUDED THAT.

SIMILARLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK I WROTE EXCELLENT PUBLIC SERVICES, WHICH NOW I CAN'T FIND WORKS, BUT PUBLIC WORKS AND SERVICES.

I WOULD HAVE MAYBE SPLIT THAT INTO MULTIPLE THINGS, TALKING ABOUT OUR UTILITIES, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT THEY ALL WOULD HAVE LANDED HERE.

I MEAN, INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE LANDED UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE.

WELL, WE DO.

SO THE LITTLE PIECES OF DETAILS THAT THAT WE MIGHT GET TO.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE CATEGORIES.

AND SO WHAT I REALLY WANT IS AGREEMENT ON THE BUCKETS.

AND YOU COULD JUST SAY THE SIX WERE PERFECT.

AND WHY DID WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS? WE LIKED THEM JUST THE WAY THEY WERE.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS HONOR SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID ARE IMPORTANT.

IS THERE A WAY THAT IT FITS BETTER TOGETHER, GIVEN WHAT YOU ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE? VICKI MEMORANDUM.

I'M THINKING THAT WHAT I CAN SEE HERE IS THAT WE ARE PLACING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

AT THE TOP OF THE BOOK.

AND EVERYTHING ELSE UNDERNEATH THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE YELLOW PRINT OR WHAT HAVE YOU IS ALL A PART OF THAT.

AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE GETTING TO THIS HIGH LEVEL OF QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE ARE CREATING.

FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE IN A DEVELOPMENT BUILDING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOING ON HERE.

WE HAVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THIS YEAR IN THIS BUILDING.

THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT HERE IS IN THIS BUILDING, BUT WE HAVE THE SERVICE CENTER HERE IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL THAT SUPPORTS ALL OF THAT.

SO WE HAVE VISITORS TO COME HERE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DECIDED THAT THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE.

THEY AT THIS POINT ARE NOT NOT THINKING PROBABLY ALL I WANT TO KNOW WHATEVER IS DOWN HERE TO BUY THE MOBILITY PART, THEY JUST LIKE THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS AND IT FEELS AND IT'S QUIET AND IT'S SMALL AND IT'S TWO UNIVERSITIES AND GOOD, GOOD EDUCATION SYSTEM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVE TO PLACES BECAUSE OF THE EDUCATIONAL VALUE THAT'S THAT TOP LEVEL, GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE STUFF, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS UNDERNEATH THERE.

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AND WE WANT TO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT TEN YEARS FROM NOW.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE HERE IN TEN YEARS, YOU STILL MAY WANT TO HAVE THAT SAME KIND OF QUALITY OF LIFE THAT YOU KEEP HEARING OUT THERE IN THE OF HOURS THAT THAT'S MOVE TODAY.

THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO BE.

OH, WE'D LIKE THEIR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

SO QUALITY OF LIFE IS HERE IF WE'RE OUT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE AS BUCKETS.

I SEE TWO BUCKETS WITH ONE STICKY EACH.

WHAT IS THE VALUE OF EMPTY BUCKETS? SO, SO OKAY.

THE BUCKETS ARE NOT EMPTY.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE HERE TODAY EMPTY.

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT, BECAUSE I'M THINKING IT MIGHT HELP YOU IN THIS STRUGGLE THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I HONESTLY FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PROBABLY IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE.

THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING MISSING THE ISSUE OF DIVERSITY.

ABSOLUTELY. SOMEHOW WHAT I EVEN THINKING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEPARATE IT FROM FROM PROSPERITY.

AND THESE OTHER TIMES YOU CAN CREATE THE LENS.

EXACTLY. THE LENS IS THAT YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS AS A LENS OF EQUITY, INCLUSION, DIVERSITY, SUSTAINABILITY, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU WANT A LENS THAT YOU EVERYTHING YOU DO, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO LOOK THROUGH IT THROUGH EQUITY, SUSTAINABILITY, DIVERSITY, SAME THING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT THROUGH AN EQUITY LENS, A DIVERSITY LENS.

I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S LENSES THAT I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO IDENTIFY, BUT IT'S SUSTAINABLE, BUT IT'S HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT.

AS A COUNSEL, WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS, THESE ARE OUR LENSES EQUITY, DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, SUSTAINABILITY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THAT'S THOSE.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THOSE HAVE TO BE YOURS, BUT YOU WANT TO LOOK THROUGH YOU WANT TO HAVE THOSE LENSES.

SO YOU ALL ARE SAYING THESE ARE THE THINGS.

THESE LENSES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE LOOK THROUGH WHEN WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

SO WHERE WE'RE WHERE I'M WANTING TO GO NEXT, ONCE WE AGREE ON THE SIX BUCKETS OR HOWEVER MANY BUCKETS THERE NEEDS TO BE, WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IS WORK IN SOME SMALL GROUPS TO BEGIN DEFINING THEM.

SO WHAT WHAT OUTCOME ARE WE LOOKING FOR? WHAT A SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE? AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES FROM OTHER PLACES.

THERE'S THERE'S NO RIGHT WAY OR WRONG WAY TO DO THIS.

IT NEEDS TO BE THE WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU ALL.

SOME PLACES, RIGHT? JUST A SENTENCE.

SO THEY HAVE A BUCKET CALLED SAFE COMMUNITY, MAKING WHATEVER THE CITY A WELCOMING PLACE FOR EVERYONE BY ENSURING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND PROVIDING EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND VISITORS.

ANOTHER COMMUNITY HAS SAFE AND LIVABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.

CITY IS A COMMUNITY OF SAFE, DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH WELL-KEPT HOMES, VITAL NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.

THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED BY THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, DIVERSITY AND HOUSING SUPPORT FOR HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION, WELL-MAINTAINED INFRASTRUCTURE.

THESE ARE LUMPUR'S BY PROVIDE AND BY PROVIDING CITY SERVICES THAT ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF ALL CONSTITUENCIES, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME BULLET POINTS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT.

AND ANOTHER ONE, QUALITY SERVICES.

WE DELIVER QUALITY MUNICIPAL SERVICES, INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES FOR ALL BY ENSURING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY, BALANCING THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF EXISTING SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH PLANNING FOR FUTURE NEEDS, VALUING AND RESPECTING STAFF, EFFECTIVELY ENGAGING BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

MAXIMIZING. SO YOU GET THE IDEA.

WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS DEFINE THESE SIX AREAS FOR THEM.

I WANT YOU TO GIVE THE GUARDRAILS TO THE STAFF SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT NORTH LOOKS LIKE, WHAT OUTCOME YOU WANT THEM TO ACHIEVE.

AND THEN WHEN THEY COME BACK TO YOU WITH.

BUDGET REQUESTS WITH AGENDA ITEMS, THEY'RE MAKING THE CONNECTION BACK TO THESE OUTCOMES.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WILL PUT THE VERBIAGE UNDER THE COUNSEL ITEMS WHERE IT'S APPLICABLE.

TO WHAT EXTENT IT MEETS THOSE.

AND WE WILL GIVE YOU SOME GRAPHIC ICONS THAT YOU CAN EVEN USE FOR VISUAL CLUES.

SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'LL GIVE BACK TO YOU.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

ARE YOU ON BOARD WITH DOING THESE DEFINITIONS AROUND THESE SIX BUCKETS AS A GROUP? YES. I GOT A THUMBS UP, THUMBS UP, THUMBS UP OR HEAD NOD? HE'S GOOGLING THE RIGHT ANSWER.

YOU GET TO DO THE EXERCISE, YOUR WORKBOOK EXERCISE.

SO WHILE YOU GUYS ARE DOING THIS, THIS IS WHY IT'S ONLY A LITTLE BIT IMPORTANT THAT THESE BIG STICKY NOTES STAY WHAT THEY ARE, BECAUSE JULIE IS GOING TO MAKE MAGIC HAPPEN ON THAT WALL OVER THERE WITH THESE BUCKETS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE WORDS RIGHT, FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY, ENHANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY, PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND RESPECTFUL AND COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP.

PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY IN THE ENVIRONMENT, SUPPORT HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES, AND STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

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YES, SIR. ONE ONE WRINKLE, AND YOU TELL ME IF IT FITS SOMEPLACE.

THE THOUGHT IS WORKFORCE, RIGHT? YES. AND SO WHERE DOES THAT FALL? ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

SO WHEN I SEND YOU IN SMALL GROUPS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL THESE STICKY NOTES AND YOU'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO WRITE A DEFINITION.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BEFORE I.

SO. SO YOU'RE GOOD ON THESE SIX AREAS.

JULIE'S GOING TO USE THEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET AGREEMENT ON THE STYLE.

YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK INTO THE GROUP WITH.

DO YOU LIKE THE SENTENCE AND BULLET POINTS? DO YOU LIKE THE TWO SENTENCES AND THE BULLET POINTS? WHAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU ALL? YES. SEVERAL BULLET POINTS WITH THE SENATE SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

LIKE I'M MORE BULLETS IN THE.

SO YOU KIND OF LIKE THIS ONE.

THE TOWEL IN THERE.

THAT'S A GOOD ONE. AND THEN THIS OTHER ONE OR LIVABLE.

BUCKETS ARE BIG CATEGORIES.

THEY ARE BIG. SO A COUPLE OF SENTENCES AND A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS MAKE GOOD SENSE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

YOU TWO ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER AND YOU TWO ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER AND YOU THREE ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER.

WE'RE WITH YOU. WHEREVER HE WENT, HE'S PART OF THAT GROUP.

SO I'VE GOT THREE GROUPS, AND EACH OF YOU WILL GET A STAT PERSON YOU CAN RED ROVER, RED ROVER BASED ON THE ITEMS THAT YOU END UP DEFINING. AND WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING IS YOU NEED TO GET TO IS HOW THIS SHOULD WORK.

SO LET'S LET'S LET THE NEWEST COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH I GUESS IS AT YOU ARE AT LEAST TENURE.

NO, IT'S NOT YOU BRAND.

IT'S A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHICH OF THESE DO YOU WANT TO WORK ON FIRST? IN THE INTEREST OF RESPECTFUL AND COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP.

OKAY. HEY, PARTNER.

HEY, BUDDY. WHICH ONE? ALL RIGHT.

OH, YOU WANT TO ASK? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE? I TAKE THEM DOWN. I KIND OF LIKE HEALTHY AND SAFE.

SAFE. HEALTHY AND SAFE.

OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE.

SO SHE'S GOT THE WORDS RIGHT.

YOU SHOULD TAKE A SELFIE.

ALL RIGHT. SO GIVEN THIS, WE'RE SHOWING THIS RED ROVER.

RED ROVER, WHAT STAFF WOULD YOU LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS? WHO GOT US IN THIS? WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM? I HOPE YOU PICK THE CHIEF.

I WAS DOING JUST ONE OF THESE.

HOW MANY DO WE GET? OH, WAIT.

OKAY, SO YOU HAVE AREAS.

WHO SHOULD GET THAT WHEN YOU ASSIGN THEM? ALL RIGHT. NEVER MIND. NEVER MIND.

THE STAFF WILL KNOW WHERE TO GO BECAUSE I WILL PICK SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT IN THE AREA OR DIVERSIFIED, I THINK, TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE ASSIGNMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE THE NEWEST.

NEWEST? ARE YOU THE SECOND NEWEST? I COUNCIL MEMBER BIRD.

BECK AND I WERE ALL ELECTED.

YOU ALL ELECTED AT THE SAME TIME.

SORRY. I WAS GOING TO SAY, HOW ABOUT THE NEWEST COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS RECENTLY ELECTED? BUT THAT WAS AFTER NEW ON THE COUNCIL.

NOW, HE WAS MAYOR BEFORE.

THAT DOESN'T COUNT. WOW.

SO. SHE'S ONE OF YOU ONCE YOU GET TO PICK ONE OF THESE AREAS.

THIS IS ASKING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND PICK A CATEGORY.

OH, NOT A.

WHAT ARE YOUR STRENGTHS AND COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE? FOSTER ECONOMIC EXCLUSION.

YOU WANT THIS ONE? OKAY, GREAT.

AND THEN, ALISON, YOU PICK FOR THE NEXT MAYOR.

CAN WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE? YES, YOU CAN. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GIVING YOU THE THING AND ALL THE STICKY NOTES, AND I EXPECT YOU TO ADDRESS THIS.

YOU'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER ON A DEFINITION OF THE ROOTS, ESSENTIALLY, BUT DON'T DO TEMPLATES OR JUST HAVE SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE TO BE RELEVANT.

CAN WE HAVE ENOUGH OF ME AFTER 24 HOURS? I JUST LIKE I WAS, LIKE, LEGAL TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT ASPECT.

NO, IT'S OKAY.

SO WHOEVER THE STAFF PERSON IS THAT GETS ASSIGNED THIS TO YOUR GROUP.

SO HERE YOU GO, FOLKS.

THE THREE OF YOU. YOU CAN STAY IN HERE.

YOU CAN GO IN THAT BREAK ROOM.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU YOURS.

SO THIS IS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU FINISH IT, I'M GOING TO ASK THE STAFF MEMBER TO EMAIL IT TO ME, WHOEVER IS WORKING WITH YOU.

[03:30:05]

AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MY EMAIL.

HERE YOU GO. WHEN YOU FINISH THE FIRST ONE, WORK.

GOOD WORK BEGETS WORK.

YOU COME BACK AND GRAB ANOTHER ONE AND THEN WE'LL SPEND THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET THIS DONE.

BUT WE'LL ALSO GO OVER THESE AS A BIG GROUP TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS TO TOUCH THEM AND FINALIZE THEM.

SO DO YOU WANT TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE TO GO? WELL, THAT'S YOUR WHEELHOUSE RIGHT HERE FOR THESE REASONS.

OH, THAT'S FINE. THAT'S WHY I JUST KEEP IT.

JUST PEOPLE AROUND YOU.

YEAH. WHICH STAFF MEMBERS? YOU ALL STAY IN HERE AND HAVE SOME TABLES OUT FOR YOU TO WORK OUT.

TO WORK ON THE NOISE.

OKAY, SO I WANT TO STAY RIGHT HERE.

SO THE THREE OF YOU ALL STAY RIGHT THERE.

SO WHICH STAFF GOES THERE? I'LL GO OVER THERE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.

OKAY. WHAT ELSE CAN YOU SEE THERE? OKAY. AND THEN COME WITH ME.

OKAY. GREAT. DO THE THREE OF YOU.

YES, I THINK YOU DO.

SOMEBODY HAS YOUR HAIR.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO PUT THIS UP.

OH, CHAIR ROLE HERE.

YOU CAN HAVE MINE OVER THERE.

THIS IS YOUR SO OVER THERE, I THINK.

I'M SURE I'M FINE. HERE YOU GO.

CHRISTINE, I SEE YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE RELEVANT NOTES OF THAT TIME.

SO. SO I COULD TELL YOU THE STICKY NOTES, I HOPE.

INFORM THE CONTENT.

HONOR THE STICKY NOTES IN THE CONTENT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WORTH.

GUYS, YOU SHOULD LET ME GO.

YEAH, JUST THE STICKY NOTES SHOULD HELP.

THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

WE MEANT THIS. SO JUST INCLUDE THAT SOMEHOW IN WHAT YOU COME BACK WITH.

I PUT THE EXAMPLE UP THERE.

I'VE GIVEN YOU MY EMAIL ADDRESS TO SEND IT TO 115, HOPEFULLY GETTING A SECOND ONE WITHIN 15 MINUTES.

SORT OF OVERVIEW OF THE STUDENTS INTO THIS TYPE OF SENTENCE.

AND THEN YOU'RE DEFINING WHAT YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, GREAT DETAIL.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW, JUST A HIGH LEVEL.

YES. THAT'S A DEFINITION OF SUCCESS.

IT'S NOT A TO DO LIST.

THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, THIS CATEGORY IN A STATEMENT.

BUT ONCE WITH THIS, I NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.

WORKS. I JUST THINK THAT'S JUST A THAT'S A RICH.

SO YOUR TIME OVER THERE? YES.

LET ME LOOK. I'LL DO IT ON THIS VIDEO.

YEAH, I NEED A REFILL.

NO, SIR. YEAH, I'LL TAKE THEM OFF. I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

NOT EXACTLY.

YOU JUST GOT TO BE LIKE THERE ARE THINGS WE'RE DOING WELL.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEND A LOT OF SANDWICH BREAD TO THAT OFFICE. I WILL HELP.

[03:35:01]

WHAT DO YOU KNOW? LIKE THE PURPOSE OF MY WORK? OH, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW. WHERE DOES THAT KNOW? I DON'T SEE THE CATEGORY FOR THE ARTS.

ARTS ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS WE TRY TO DO.

I BELIEVE THAT ALL GOES TO, YOU KNOW, SMALL COMPANIES, RESTAURANTS, AVAILABLE, SIDEWALK SITS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

SO I THINK THAT'S A STORYLINE THAT GAVE THE SPECIFICS TO WHAT I MEAN.

SO IT WAS THE ABILITY TO OUT THE BASIC SECTION, BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE. NOW, OF COURSE, THIS IS MEANT TO, RIGHT? SO THERE'S THE TRUE VIBRANCY.

THAT'S WHAT WORKS FOR THE PLAN.

BUT I ALSO LIKE THE ARTS, ESPECIALLY IN RELATION TO UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS.

SO THERE'S A REASON THERE'S A WAY TO STAY RETIRED AS WE GET INFORMATION NOW.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO RAISE ALL OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE I YEAH, THOSE WORDS, WHATEVER ONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IS NOT EVERYONE.

SO I MUST CONFESS, THESE ARE ALL COMMUNITIES, SMALL LIVING THAT ARTS AND DIVERSITY IS KIND OF IN THIS SECTION.

AND I WAS TRYING TO GET TO SOME OF SOME OF THE ITEMS AND THEN POTENTIAL WAS SORT OF LIKE A CATCHALL FOR SOMETHING.

HOW CAN WE DESCRIBE CHARACTERIZE THAT AS BEING TRUE TO OUR HISTORY, DIVERSITY AND POTENTIAL SILOS? FRANCIS NEED TO WRITE THE NOMINATION.

IT'S NOT JUST THE TWO OF US.

ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S HOW WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN LOCKED DOWN.

AND I WAS LIKE, NO GOOD REASON THIS LONG TERM IN MY BACKGROUND.

WHAT IS IT? SHE WAS LATE FOR THAT.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JUST GIVING YOU A BAD REVIEW.

ALSO NEEDS TO HAVE SOME UPSIDES.

I THINK IT'S NOT.

YOU EITHER HAVE TO TURN THIS INTO LEADING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I THINK THAT BRINGS A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OR ALLOW PEOPLE TO GROW IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

THEY KNOW IT'S A RUNNING MATE, BUT IT'S A CHOICE IN STAGES.

[03:40:10]

IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE.

YOU SEE THIS? KIND OF LIKE YOU HAVE TO TRY TO CATCH SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE.

AND SO IN MOST PLACES, THERE WAS A LOT OF HAVE A LOT OF ONE OF YOUR REGRETS IS A POLITICAL ACTIVISM.

SO I STARTED RELATING TO THESE CATEGORIES IN A HEALTHY WAY.

YEAH, I THINK I THINK SO.

THEY ARE. SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED TO HAVE WAS MORE EXPERIENCE OR ELSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MAYBE 2% OF VALUES.

THIS IS STILL THE IN MOSCOW BUILDING 236 TOTALLY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS THAT ARE TRYING TO FIND AND SUPPORT A SENTENCE THAT WE HAVE.

THAT'S INTERESTING. YES.

IT'S NOT SO FAR ALL THOSE PLANNING THAT IS, WE DON'T AGREE.

WELL, I THINK WE USE IT TO DO SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW, I THINK AND SO SOME WRITERS ARE FURTHER BACK AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ON.

SO WE SORT OF DRAG OUT.

SO I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH TO BE WELCOMING, ACCEPTING AND OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW.

THAT REQUIRES A PERSPECTIVE TO BUY.

THIS IS RIGHT ALREADY HAVE PROSPECTS.

THAT'S AN APPROACH WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT.

THIS IS COULSON'S POINT, AND I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU'VE GOT THE FIRST ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW FAR YOU CAN GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

IF I UNDERSTOOD LET ME JUST SAY THIS.

I THINK PEOPLE ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE THOSE INTANGIBLES.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU LOST MY LIFE.

AND IT ACTUALLY WAS WHY I WAS TRYING TO LISTEN TO THE STORY SO I COULD SEE HOW THESE BUCKETS FLY WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN I WOULD SAY I ALSO THINK BECAUSE OF UNIVERSITY, I STAY YOU KNOW, I GO TO SCHOOL IN OTHER PLACES OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE I HAVE A CIVIL UNION WITH YOU UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITIES MOVE AND THEY TAKE IN DIVERSE ARTISTIC EXPRESSION.

AND IT IT'S A LITTLE TINY BIT BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE.

SO I HAVE A SIMILAR.

6 HOURS NOT HAVING ELECTRICITY IN THIS TOWN.

SO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT KEPT YOU HERE, WHAT ABOUT THE HISTORY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? IF YOU COULD PUT IT INTO WORDS, HOW DID THAT HOW DO YOU ASSOCIATE THOSE WITH IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE? IT IS I MEAN, IF YOU TAKE ANY WAY YOU LIKE OR MAKE YOU FEEL MORE SO.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK YOUR QUESTION IS IT FELT LIKE ARTISTRY IN THE VERSES WITH HARMONIES IN THE LINES.

SO SOME NICE WORDS WERE INTERWOVEN THROUGHOUT.

SO IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE STRUCTURE EASILY THE BARRIERS TO THAT KIND OF TRAINING THAT YOU SEE THAT IS THERE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN A UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND, BUT THIS IS A SINGLE PERSON RIGHT OVER A LOT OF THIS. BUT IT WAS BEING THIS PLEASURE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE HAD AND I'M LIKE, OH, I LOVE THAT.

YEAH. YES.

SERVICES. THAT'S WHAT MAKES SENSE.

RESTAURANTS DO THAT.

SO WE COULD JUST MAYBE JUST USE THAT GENDER.

[03:45:05]

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS.

SO THE PHILOSOPHY ON HIGHWAY ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, AND SO I WOULD SAY ALL THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

WELL, ESSENTIAL SERVICES HAS A REALLY SPECIFIC MEANING.

THEY THINK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING BROADER THAN THAT.

EXACTLY CORRECT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT THAT'S ALSO BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY KNOW BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE.

EMAIL IT TO ME AND I'LL PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN SO WE CAN GET TO YOUR SECOND ONE.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT 5 MINUTES AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT IS LIKE FEELS LIKE A DIRECTION WHERE IT FEELS LIKE. YEAH.

YEAH. WITH THE SUPPORT THROUGH.

BECAUSE I GET A COMPLEX MULTIMODE.

YEAH. SO I KNOW SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT IS MADE TO SPREAD LIKE SEAMLESS MOBILITY ESPECIALLY THIS MULTIMODAL IS BOTH IN MY HAND SPACE.

WHEN I THINK OF IT, I'M THINKING ABOUT A PLACE LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THE CITY VICE.

I WILL SAY BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT EVERY DAY IS GOING TO BRING US TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.

SO IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY? IS THAT PART THAT'S COOL.

SO THAT'S HOW I'M GOING TO USE MY WORDS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG TIME.

THAT IS CORRECT. IT SEEMS LIKE NOW OR IS THAT JUST SO? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WOW. YOU KNOW WHAT? DON'T THINK I'VE GOT IT WRONG, BUT I JUST LIKE, WOW, THAT IS.

SO MAYBE ADDING VALUE AS A YEAR IS SUCH A SPECIAL.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW THEY WANT TO BE HELPFUL.

EVERYBODY THAT MATTERS TO US ACTUALLY PROVIDES A SENSE OF ENGAGEMENT.

AND I THINK I THINK THE UNIVERSITY ENVIRONMENTS PROVIDE SORT OF THAT.

BUT BUT BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU GROW HOME, I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I SAY THAT I ACTUALLY GREW UP WITH MY CHILDHOOD, SO MY LIFE TEN YEARS NOW, BUT IT'S GOING WELL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY TREES ARE MORE CONSERVATIVE IN GEORGIA AND EVEN PRETTIER, WHICH ISN'T A LOT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING, IS THAT FOR PEOPLE TO BE WHO THEY ARE, WHATEVER THAT CHOICE IS TO SAY, OH, PROBABLY THROUGH A BUZZWORD, YOU'RE USING AN INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT.

I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR CHOICE STRATEGIC PLAN BUZZWORDS, WHICH IS WHY DON'T YOU JUST TELL ME THAT I KNOW IT HAS.

IT HAS TO BE.

IT IS A VALUE JUDGMENT THAT YOU HIGHLIGHT.

BUT I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT INCLUSIVITY.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS ABOUT TAKING ON THE CORPORATE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC TYPES.

OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T THINK YOU MAY HAVE TO SAY AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO BE CAREFUL THIS YEAR.

I THINK THAT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE ARE RACIAL AND RIGHT. I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK YOU MEANT TO LARGE.

YEAH, I DID. THAT IS PART OF THAT, TOO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT IS PART OF THE VILLAGE CONCEPT.

[03:50:03]

RIGHT. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH. BECAUSE IT CAN MEAN A LOT OF SUPPORT, BUT YOU'RE READY FOR YOUR SECOND ONES YET.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'VE GOT TO REINFORCE YOUR DIVERSITY AND YOUR BELIEFS ARE WELCOMING.

SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY IS ONE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO SUCCEED.

AND THEN THAT COULD ANSWER THINGS LIKE YOU DONE FIRST.

YOU CAN DO YOUR NEXT ONE EITHER.

LAST, I THINK, SORT OF UNDERSELLING THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE PASSING, RIGHT? NO, NOT AT ALL. YEAH.

BUT THAT THAT SEEMS TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING ELSE, THE STRUCTURE TO THIS AUDIENCE IN THIS STRUCTURE TO DO THIS.

I WANT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A BULLET POINT.

YES, I THINK THAT'S STATING PRIVATE SECTOR FOR GOVERNMENT WORK.

I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S EXPENSIVE. START PUTTING ALL THE DIFFERENCES.

I DO HAVE TO GO TO AUSTIN AND I CAN'T KEEP UP.

BUT WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE HERE AND THEY COME IN AND OUT FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

I THINK IT GOES TO THE SECURITY SERVICES THAT YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING MORE.

YES. SO I KNOW I BELIEVE THE ENVIRONMENT GOING PUT THOSE IN THIS CAN ACCESS TO PARKS AND RECREATION LIKE YOU SHOULD.

I MEAN, I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE UP TO THIS VERY MUCH.

NOT WORD IN GENERAL.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME MORE SPECIFIC THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED TO MEAN SOMETHING.

ARE WE UNDERSELLING VALUES IN TERMS OF JUST THE ARTS ECOSYSTEM? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY SEEING SYSTEMS THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO YOU ARTS.

THIS CAN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY, HEY, THE THREE OF YOU WORK AND LIVE, WORK AND PLAY, CREATE A STRUCTURE.

I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT. WELL, IT IS.

I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE I'M TRYING TO BE A LITTLE CAREFUL BECAUSE WE.

SO YOU GUYS LOOK.

YES, I THINK WE ARE ALL.

HE SAID. THEY HAVE NOW REACHED OUT TO THE MINISTRY AND OF COURSE, WE WERE MADE FOR AN ESCAPE.

LET'S GO. WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT MY FIRST ASSIGNMENT TO TAKE THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS WAS ALL RIGHT ON THE WAY HERE.

[03:55:09]

BOTH OF US HERE.

YEAH, WELL, THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY AUTOMATICALLY.

PLEASE, MA'AM, I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THEY'RE BEING EMAILED TO ME NOW.

I HAVE GIVEN UP TWO ADDITIONAL ONES THAT WE HAVE FOR STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, SUSTAINABILITY IS SO HIGH THAT IT FELL OFF.

IT JUST GOT ON THE GROUND.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE INTENTIONAL.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE ACTUALLY HAVE HIGH WAGES AND ACCESS TO ACCESS TO FAMILY DISTRIBUTION SO THAT YOUR HEART SO NOT ONLY SHELTER, YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DO THE WORK THAT IT'S ALWAYS PROMISED.

AND THEN YOU GET YOUR NEXT ONE SHOT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THEN I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN I SAY DON'T JUST SAY NO, YOU'RE STILL HERE.

BUT YOU GOT A DECISION TO MAKE THAT YOU MAY HAVE COME IN THE FAMILY OR NOT.

I DON'T KNOW. YES, THAT WAS.

YEAH, I WOULD DO IT NOW.

WELL, THERE IS INCREASING AVERAGE REPRESENTATION.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE'RE WINNING SO.

WELL, I GOT AFFORDABILITY NEXT QUARTER.

WELL, IT WAS NICE TO HIT PRESIDENT.

YEP, YEP, YEP.

JUST CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THE FAMILY DESTINATION THIS YEAR.

SHE WOULD LIKE TO.

SURE. THAT'S REALLY RIGHT.

SO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON IN THE SENSE OF SOME OF THESE IN THE COMING YEARS.

WELL, NO. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO BUY BATTERY.

THIS IS PROBABLY STILL SAFE.

DON'T KNOW. NO, I THINK.

I THINK YOU DO NEED TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

YEAH, YOU SAID IT TO ME.

LET ME SEE IT. LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET IT TO.

I APPLAUD. THAT'S A GREAT GOAL.

SOMEWHERE IN COLLABORATION WITH SOMEONE I TO OUT OF, WE HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO TO THIS ISSUE.

YEAH. BECAUSE THAT MATTERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

THE OTHER PARTS OF THAT.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH POPULATION.

ARE THERE ANY 70,000? WHY DID YOU SEND ME YOUR GOALS?

[04:00:03]

WE'RE NOT GOING TO.

YEAH. ARE YOU FAMILIAR NOW? YEAH. YEAH. YOU TAKE YOU DREW A WHOLE BUNCH OR NOT HAVE TO.

THEY'LL HAVE A CONDENSER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY. AND SO THIS IS AN INSTANCE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO THIS IS IN THE FUTURE WHEN SOLAR PANELS ARE BETTER.

GIVE ME SOME PROBLEMS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING.

SORRY. YEAH, THAT INFORMS ALL THE ENERGY.

OH, JUST. JUST ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT ARE SOLELY RELIANT ON TECHNOLOGY. ALL RIGHT, LOOK, YOU'RE PART OF RIGHT. CONTINUED FOCUS ON IMPLEMENTING SOLARIS, TOO. AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A PROJECT.

YOU'RE NOT COMING DOWN. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? FOCUS ON. ON RESPONSIBLE DATA PROVIDED BY THE RESIDENTIAL WASTE MATERIALS THAT JUST WHERE THEY'RE COMING UP.

$100,000 SAFE IS NOT AN INNOVATION RELATIONSHIP IS TO JUMP IN THERE.

YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN INNOVATION.

THEY SAY HOW SHOULD WE START RIGHT NOW? INNOVATION IS A CORE VALUE.

YEAH. BECAUSE YEAH, NOT HALF OF IT THEY CAN'T USE BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S AN INNOVATION FROM THE FIRST MILLION DOLLAR BEST PRACTICE.

I WANT YOU REAL BAD TALKING ABOUT THIS.

SO CALLING IT A RESULT OF THAT.

YES. THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR INDUSTRY, WE TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT ALSO I THINK WHAT I SEE, I SEE IN MY MIND THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE TOURISM, DIVERSE AND SUSTAINABLE TAX BASE IN LARGE GROUPS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO LEARN THROUGH CROSS SPECTRUM, WHICH YOU CAN'T HAVE A COHERENT AND BE SO.

YEAH. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE SITTING BACK IN THE STUDIO IS ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PROBLEM TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT? FOR NOW, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER MANY YEARS TO.

THEY GOT LUCKY EARLY ON FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO SEE IT ALL.

AND YOU COULD HAVE. I WILL SAY THOSE IF WE COVER THE TIME IN THAT VERY SHORT TERM AND SO, SO EXTRANEOUS EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING AND THE RIGHT KIND OF COLLABORATIVE.

YEAH, I KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT.

I THINK THIS IS A PLACE THAT ARE NOT ANALOGOUS TO MY VALUE.

[04:05:06]

NEXT, ACTIONABLE FISCAL RESTRAINT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIT.

SO I THINK WE JUST UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I WAS KIND OF COVERING THE INVESTIGATION AND EDUCATION DECISION ON EACH OCCASION. I SURE DO.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF RESILIENCE EITHER? YES. NO.

SO ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS A SLIDE.

YOU SAID, LOOK, IT JUST NOT WORK.

IT'S NOT PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER IN ONE AT A TIME BECAUSE I'M REWRITING THEM.

I MEAN. BUT, I MEAN, IS THAT JUST SUGARY SOFT DRINKS? I'LL PICK YOU UP FOR THAT FIRST CLASS DESTINATION.

WHAT HAVE YOU. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EMPLOYMENT NOW.

ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE ON A PLAYLIST FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE.

THEY HAVE SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE SYSTEM WE PRODUCE.

YEAH. WHY ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? WHAT DO I DO LIKE? THAT'S THE REAL KEY.

YOU'VE TOUCHED ON MY LIFE.

I'M LIKE, I'M SORRY.

I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.

SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TIME FOR A COMMENT ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY BASIS OR WHAT I'M GOING TO NEED TO SAY.

MOST NOTABLY FAR OUT FROM YOUR PERCEPTION OR DESTINATION EXPERIENCE ACROSS WHAT WE ARE ASKING.

I AM NOT TO BECAUSE IT MAKES YOUR JOB MANAGEMENT.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.

I HAVE TO GO BECAUSE I AM ACTUALLY GOING OUT.

HAVING CONVERSATIONS DOESN'T HAPPEN.

NOW MEAN I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WHO BUSINESS INVESTMENT IS GROWING.

YEAH. RIGHT.

YOU WERE MORE LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SO.

[04:10:08]

SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHY DO WE USE VEGAS ACCOUNTING FOR THESE NUMBERS? WELL, I GUESS WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT SIMPLE.

LET'S FIND OUT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY.

I SEE A LOT OF.

YES. YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU WANT TO LEARN THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU NEED TO GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME, THEY MAY BE FROM ALWAYS SO EASY TO FIND. SO I GUESS NOT.

SO MAYBE. OR THIS IS THE APPROACH THAT THINGS WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THINGS. RIGHT. THERE ARE A LOT OF SUPPORT IS A DESTINATION FOR. BUT WHAT IT IS THIS IS YOUR NEXT ONE.

YOU COULD BE A LITTLE MORE CONCISE.

YEAH, YEAH.

YOU'RE VERY INCLUSIVE, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE TOO SENSITIVE.

LIKE, HOW DO I GET THIS? WHETHER ALREADY WHETHER IT'S JUST SECTORS AND INDUSTRIES.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF THAT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A DEAL AND YOU SIT AND WATCH THAT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH. YOU'RE DOING ACTIONS.

YEAH, I JUST SAID YES.

IT'S LIKE I READ SOME SOMETIMES LATE NIGHT BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT THE RATIONALE IS DAVID HAS TO DO THIS OR THAT AT ONCE.

WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE A FINAL LIST ON CORPORATE AND WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT WE THINK DESTINATION IS, I THINK, AT HEADQUARTERS. SO I HAVEN'T.

I'M NOT. I'M YOU TO THAT.

SO WHAT IS OUR PROPOSAL? WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THE AS FAR AS I'M IN THAT I'M REALLY FEELING LIKE YOU'RE JUST A CLICHÉ.

AND THEN. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK EVERYBODY'S OVER THERE, SO WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN INCORPORATE BOTH. AND I LIKE BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO GOALS.

THOSE ARE TWO VERY SEPARATE OPPORTUNITIES.

SOME PEOPLE ARE SOME JUST PROVIDING SOME EVENTS AND OTHERS WILL COME BECAUSE WE WANT TO USE OUR TIME.

[04:15:06]

NOT SO MUCH FOR THE EVENT THAT I WANT TO REACH.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST HAPPY AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS THIS, THIS IS NOT SO GREAT.

I DON'T HAVE TO ANYMORE.

SO, LIKE A CREATIVE ENTITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

WELL, SO MAYBE THAT CAN CHANGE.

YEAH, I. I'M NOT BULLISH ON.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT USING THE FAMILY OF THE FAMILY PART, BUT I THINK THE SPECTRUM OF, OF LIFE THING, WHICH IS THE SAME THING.

YEAH. YEAH. LIVING.

THAT'S THE REASON THAT I DON'T THINK WE FAMILY OFF I GUESS.

IS IT. AND SAY AS MORE AND MORE AND LEARN.

COME ON, LARRY KING LIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO DANCE TO THE MUSIC.

TAKE IT OFF. BECAUSE AS WE HAVE SO LITTLE SPACE AND DRAW OPPORTUNITIES FOR, WE HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ONCE YOU DISCOVER, MILES, WELL, THIS IS ALL THERE.

IT JUST GOES.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? OH, YEAH.

BUT LIKE WE BUT WE WE HAVE SINGER.

AND THAT'S A HARD THING TO PROVIDE SOMETIMES.

CONTINUE. ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, CAN YOU JUST TAKE IT? YOU KNOW, I.

I REGRET MY DECISION ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. I WAS THINKING.

NO, NO, NOT THIS TIME.

YEAH. YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT ACTIONABLE? YOU GOT A GREAT CREATIVE.

YOU DON'T HAVE. YOU HAVE A CAR RIGHTS ORGANIZATION.

EXCUSE ME.

CAN THEY COME BACK TO SEE IF YOUR JOB IS FOR RENEWING AND EVALUATING PROGRESS? YES. SEE, INSTEAD OF ESTABLISHING JUST REGULAR MEETING WITH EVERY DYNAMIC RECOMMENDATION. SURE.

GOOD. YOU HAVE BULLET POINTS.

YOU JUST TELL ME.

OKAY? YEAH.

THE FACT THAT RENEWAL. I DON'T KNOW.

SORRY. NOT GETTING THE PRESS.

WHAT ABOUT EVALUATING PROGRESS TOWARD AND WANT TO DO IT? ANY FRIENDS IN THE.

WHY WE DECIDED, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AS HOUSING COST.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY TO OR IT'S ONLY TO THOSE WHO REALLY.

ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? YEAH. YOU'RE NOT FOR THE POINT.

I'M HEARING YOU. I'M HEARING THE OTHER LAUGH OUT LOUD.

THAT'S ALL HE REALLY WANTS.

YEAH. SO WE CAN MAKE A PLAN REGULARLY.

SEE, WE DON'T.

WE DON'T EVEN NEED REVIEWING.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE IF YOU'RE EVALUATING THE INFECTION.

I'VE NEVER HAD AN OVERACHIEVER.

[04:20:02]

YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, MAN.

YOU KNOW, WHICH AREA IS THAT? ECONOMIC. IT'S THIS ONE.

YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

JUST DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. I KNOW IT'S MY MY GLASSES UP HERE, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP DOWN RAMP.

SO SPECIFIC. YOU HAVE SINGLE VISION LENS.

YOU GOT BIFOCALS. OH, TRANSITIONS, BABY.

I GOT IT. WELL, I TELL YOU, BECAUSE ON DAY TEN, I WAS STILL TRYING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THESE THINGS WORK. AFTER WE GOT TO TELL YOU, SIT AND.

AND I COULD SUDDENLY BE LIKE MY NEURAL NET.

WHAT DID YOU SAY? HOW MANY? HUNDREDS? I'M JUST.

I'M THINKING OF. YEAH.

SO THEY'RE. NO, THEY'RE TRANSITIONS.

YEAH. SO WE NEEDED A GRADIENT ALL DIRECTIONS.

SO IT'S LIKE IT STARTS FROM A PUPIL IS AND IT, IT GOES OUT SO GOOD THAT'S LESS AND LESS PRESCRIPTION.

OR MAYBE IT'S MORE AND MORE BECAUSE I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE WORDS.

I MEAN, I USED TO HAVE 2010 VISION.

I COULD RELY ON AN OUTHOUSE 20 MILES BETTER.

AS LONG AS YOU'RE SLIGHTLY FARSIGHTED.

YEAH, IT'S IN YOUR MIND'S EYE.

EXCELLENT. LIKE, I WOULD GET THERE.

I'M NOTHING SIGHTED.

SO MAYBE DAVID IS IS MY ONLY GOOD DISTANCE.

SO I NEED TO HAVE THE THIS THE DAVID DOES NOTHING.

I NEED TO I HAVE THIS STRONG BECAUSE ON A LAPTOP IT WORKS ALL THE TIME.

AND THEN I NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PODCAST.

OH, MY GOD, I THINK I SHOULD GO TO.

I DON'T SEE WHY THIS IS STUPID. I GUESS MY BRAIN ISN'T ADAPTING IT RIGHT.

OKAY. WHAT DO YOU WANT? I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO HAVE THE FIRST THREE EPISODES.

I DON'T THINK THINGS ARE GOING TO GET COMFORTABLE ON YOUR SIDE.

OH, THAT'S EXCELLENT.

YOU LOOK AWESOME.

OH, I'VE GOT TO GO GET MY SISTER, SO I GOT TO PICK UP MY DAUGHTERS.

COME HERE TONIGHT. AND THEN I GOT MYSELF.

I GOT THAT GINORMOUS DRIVE THAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S AWESOME.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS PART IN LARGE AND OLDER, BUT THEN SATISFIED.

SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S FAIRLY DOWNTOWN.

DO YOU HAVE TO DO THIS LONG HAUL AND VALUATION OF BUSINESS? YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT TO.

[04:25:03]

YEAH. YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK TO US, EMAIL OUR FRIENDS. YEAH, SURE.

I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS YOU GOT RID OF THIS THING.

I'M FINE WITH THIS. LISTEN, I SAW HOW PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

PEOPLE SAY I DON'T WANT TO GET BURNED OUT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE.

BECAUSE THE MARKETS IN THAT WAY, THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE LOSING $1,000,000 IN YOUR HANDS.

AND THEN THAT'S MY IMPRESSION. ALL RIGHT.

BACK TO YOUR SEATS, IF YOU WOULD.

JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CRASH AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MY POINT.

AND THE IMPRESSION THAT I FEEL MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT I FIND IS THAT THESE LOOK LIKE THEY WERE WRITTEN BY INSTEAD OF ONE OR EVEN THREE.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A KIND OF A SUGGESTION STYLE, THEY'RE NOT ALL QUITE THE SAME.

SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EACH GROUP READ THEIRS.

I'M GOING TO PUT THEM UP ON THE SCREEN.

WE'LL READ THROUGH THEM.

YOU SHOULD MAKE NOTES OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO YOURSELF.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GROUP WORDSMITH QUITE YET, BUT EVERYONE DOES LOOK FORWARD TO THAT PART OF THE DAY.

I KNOW. AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'VE BEEN REWRITING THEM ON BIG FLIP CHARTS.

AND SO YOU ARE GOING TO GO AROUND WITH YOUR SHARPIE THAT I GAVE YOU AND THE STICKY PAD OF ANY COLOR.

AND YOU ARE GOING TO WRITE COMMENTS ON STICKY NOTES AND LEAVE THEM HERE ABOUT IF THERE'S LANGUAGE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED OR CHANGED OR TWEAKED OR STRIKE THIS.

IT'S COVERED HERE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

PUT YOUR COMMENTS ON THERE AND THEN GO BACK TO THE GROUPS AND TRY TO GET A FINAL PRODUCT.

IT'S ONLY 2:00.

I KNOW IT FEELS LIKE BEDTIME, BUT IT'S NOT.

IT'S ONLY 2:00.

SO WE HAVE TIME.

SO I KNOW WE WERE FEELING A LITTLE DEPRESSED AND THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

SO WITH THAT CALMING, SOOTHING, REASSURING COMMENT, THE FIRST ONE THAT'S UP IS PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND COLLABORATIVE AND RESPECTFUL LEADERSHIP WITH SOMEONE.

THIS AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU CAME TO THIS.

JUST DON'T MAKE FRANK DO IT, COUNSELOR.

IT'S YOU, RIGHT? YEAH. GOOD CITY MUNICIPALITY LEADING BEST PRACTICE GOVERNANCE.

SO WE'RE THINKING THERE.

THE PHRASE AGAIN IN MY MIND, WAS INDUSTRY LEADING.

BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY IN AN INDUSTRY.

WE'RE IN A MUNICIPAL SPACE, BUT BEST PRACTICES.

AND THAT KIND OF INCORPORATES IDEAS OF STRENGTHS.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S INNOVATION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY INNOVATION FOR ITS OWN SAKE, THAT YOU'RE JUST DOING WHAT THE BEST, BEST PRACTICES, MULTIJURISDICTIONAL COLLABORATION, STRONG COMMUNICATION.

THIS KIND OF MADE ITS WAY ACROSS BOTH OF OUR BOTH OF OUR TOPICS THAT STRONG AND COLLABORATIVE COMMUNICATION.

GIVES YOU THE BEST OUTCOME, BEST PRACTICE.

YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SELF EVALUATION OF SERVICES THROUGH USE OF STRONG ANALYTICS AND METRICS.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE CLEAR GOALS AND MEASURABLE OUTCOMES COMMITTED TO CORE VALUES.

WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO EXPLAIN OR NOT EXPLAIN? I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO. I'M NOT GOING TO.

IF WE'RE DOING THIS THE INTEREST OF TIME, THEN WE THROW IT FOR FOLKS.

I WANT THEM TO HEAR IT.

COMMITMENT TO CORE VALUES WHILE VALUING INNOVATION.

STRONG FOCUS ON DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

BUILDING TOMORROW'S LEADERS THROUGH TRAINING AND MENTORSHIP.

STRONG FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP.

EXHIBIT A FAIR, TRANSPARENT AND RESPECTFUL DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

I LIKE THE CADENCE. OK.

I JUST HAD A BRIEFLY.

WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT OUR PROCESS IS THAT THANKFULLY THE JUDGE SUGGESTED THAT WE GO BACKWARDS.

SO WE CAME UP WITH OUR BULLET POINTS FIRST AND THEN WENT BACK IN AND REALLY CAME UP WITH KIND OF OUR OVERHANGING DEFINITION OF KNOW HOW YOU ALL PROCESS WORK.

[04:30:08]

BUT THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL FOR OUR GROUP.

IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO WRITE A DEFINITIVE SENTENCE THAT WASN'T JUST RESTATING, LIKE THESE ARE ACTION ORIENTED THINGS ALREADY.

SO LIKE WE WERE JUST TRYING TO RESTATE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID IN BETTER WAYS.

GOTCHA. OK THE NEXT GROUP ENHANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.

YES. YES.

YEAH. SO IT IS ENHANCING INFRASTRUCTURE.

MOBILITY. THE CITY CREATES AN ECOSYSTEM WHERE RELIABLE, SAFE, SUSTAINABLE AND HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORTS EACH OF EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ACCESS TO CORE SERVICES AND FULL PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS ACHIEVED THROUGH STRATEGIC, INNOVATIVE AND FORWARD THINKING PLANNING A HOLISTIC AND MULTIMODAL APPROACH TO MOBILITY THAT PROVIDES VIABLE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES, LEVERAGING PARTNERSHIPS WITH AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH AND INFLUENCING THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

EXCELLENT. FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

I'LL JUMP IN.

SO THIS IS FOSTERING.

AND THIS WE WERE FOCUSED ON A COMMUNITY WITH A DIVERSE OR DIVERSIFIED TAX BASE WITH DYNAMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING. MEANING WE WANTED A BROAD SPECTRUM OF BOTH EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES TO GO ALONG WITH THAT EMPLOYMENT.

AND THEN THE STRENGTH OF COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IS OUR NEXT ONE.

YOU WANT TO SAY SO THAT YOU JUST DID A SENTENCE? THERE'S NO BULLET POINTS TO THIS ONE.

SO THEN IS YOUR NEXT ONE.

AND I'LL SAY WE HAD BULLET POINTS, BUT THEN WE THOUGHT THE EXERCISE WAS TO CONSOLIDATE INTO A A COMMUNAL AGREED UPON SENTENCE.

SO IT WAS TO DO A SENTENCE WITH BULLET POINTS.

BUT THAT'S OKAY. WE'LL GET THERE.

NEXT, YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

ALL RIGHT. SO OUR OTHER ONE WAS STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND THERE ARE OUR IDEA WAS TO REINFORCE THE STRONGER COMMUNITY.

AND THE WAY TO DO THAT WAS THROUGH DIVERSITY AND ENGAGEMENT.

AND ACCEPTING THAT PART OF THE DIVERSITY OF ENGAGEMENT WAS THAT IT WAS WELCOMING AND ACCEPTING, INCLUSIVE, AND PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK OF OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW AND SUCCEED, SUPPORT HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES.

I THINK THAT'S BACK OVER HERE.

I'VE BEEN SKUNK. I'M GOING TO BE A SKUNK.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I'M WATCHING THE CLOCK.

BUT THESE ARE THESE ARE REALLY GOOD VALUE STATEMENTS.

THEY'RE REALLY GOOD EXPRESSIONS OF THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND HOW WE WOULD EXPRESS AND BETTER ILLUSTRATE THESE VALUES.

THE NEXT PART OF OUR AGENDA HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE STAFF.

TELL US ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND MAKING WORK PLANS AND WORKING TOWARDS GOALS.

I WANT TO GET TO AGREEMENT ON OUTCOME STATEMENTS.

THAT'S OUR TASK TODAY.

AND THEN THE STAFF WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT THEY SEE AS PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT WILL PURSUE THAT WILL HELP ACHIEVE THESE OUTCOMES.

SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE ARE THE GUARDRAILS THAT YOU'RE GIVING THEM TO DEFINE SUCCESS IN THESE CATEGORIES, AND THEY WILL WORK FROM HERE.

SO WHERE'S THE PART WHERE WE PROPOSE SPECIFIC OUTCOMES OR WHERE IS THE PART WHERE WE SAY, HERE'S FOR INSTANCE, SO CAN I CAN I JUST PAUSE FOR I'D LOVE TO JUST GET THROUGH THIS.

AT LEAST GET ON MY WHEELS OVER HERE.

I REALLY FEEL IT. SO I'M ABOUT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SAFE COMMUNITIES.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT THAT WE VALUE IN A SAFE COMMUNITY.

BUT I REALLY WANT TO TELL YOU IS I THINK WE OUGHT TO STAFF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS WAY OR WE OUGHT TO STAFF THE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WAY.

OKAY. SO AND THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE STEPPING INTO THE WEEDS AND YOU'RE TELLING THE STAFF, YOU'RE TELLING THE STAFF THIS IS HOW TO RUN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW AND HOW MUCH MONEY I WANT TO SPEND ON YOUR POLICE PART.

THAT IS YOU THAT IS YOUR DECISION.

THE ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES.

ABSOLUTELY. YOUR DECISION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFINING THE END RESULTS.

THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL POLICY AND NOT THE SPECIFIC TO DO'S.

I FEEL LIKE THE STAFF NEEDS MORE DIRECTION FROM THIS COUNCIL, NOT DOWN IN THE WEEDS, BUT AT SOME HIGH LEVEL SPECIFIC RESULTS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST.

I THINK ELLEN FACILITATED A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.

[04:35:04]

SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN REALLY USEFUL IN THE PAST IS HERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL AND THAT WE WANT TO SEE UP AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL DO THAT AFTER WE FINISH THIS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. IS THERE A PART OF THE DAY? THERE IS NOW. SORRY.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THIS SUPPORT? I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU WOULD READ THIS.

THE CITY OF DENTON KEEPS OUR COMMUNITY HEALTHY, SAFE, LIVABLE AND SUSTAINABLE BY LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY, COLLABORATION AND INNOVATION WITH OUR RICHLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

GREATER SPACE PARKS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GREEN SPACE AND PARKS.

I THINK IT SAYS GREEN IS.

IT SAYS GREATER.

OH. OH, LOOK AT THE SCREEN.

I'M GETTING OLDER. GREEN SCREEN.

THERE WE GO. PROFESSIONAL, PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED AND STAFFED.

PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS.

STRONG COLLABORATION BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SAFE COMMUNITIES HAVE STRONG COMMUNICATION AND ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND CITY GOVERNMENT.

HIGH PRIORITY IS HEALTH AND WELL-BEING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

CLEAN AIR AND WATER AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND PROMOTE ACCESS TO SAFE SHELTER.

SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENT.

BACK TO THE MIDDLE YEARS.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR. LAST ONE.

I'LL DO THIS ONE. PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE CITY ENSURES LONG TERM VIABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES, RESOURCES AND PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT THROUGH RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF LIMITED FINANCIAL, HUMAN AND NATURAL RESOURCES. EVIDENCE BASED DECISION MAKING.

ADOPTION. MORE EFFICIENT PRACTICES, POLICIES AND CODES FOCUS ON RESPONSIBLE WASTE MANAGEMENT AND REGULAR EVALUATION OF RENEWABLES.

OKAY, SO THESE ARE THE BEGINNINGS OF THESE OUTCOME STATEMENTS, I WOULD SAY, IN TERMS OF CONSISTENCY, IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A CONSISTENT WAY OF OF SAYING THESE THIS ONE AND THE OTHER WAS RYAN'S GROUP, WHICH WAS WHICH WAS YOUR ALL'S OTHER ONE, SUSTAINABLE OTHER ONE WAS INFRASTRUCTURE.

INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S OVER HERE.

SO THOSE TWO PROBABLY MOST CLOSELY FOLLOWED THE EXAMPLE OF HAVING A STRONG SENTENCE.

AND THEN THE BULLET POINTS.

I WANT YOU TO TAKE A STICKY NOTEPAD, WALK AROUND AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING UP HERE THAT YOU THINK WE ALREADY SAY THAT OVER HERE, WE COULD TAKE IT OUT OR THIS IS MISSING, MAKE A COMMENT ON THE STICKY NOTE AND LEAVE IT FOR THE UP ON THE CHART THAT IT APPLIES TO OR UNDER FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY. IF YOU HAVE SOME SUGGESTED BULLET POINTS, GO AHEAD AND WRITE THOSE DOWN AND WE'LL FEED THOSE BACK TO THE GROUP.

SO KIND OF WALK AROUND, TAKE YOUR PADS AND WE'LL GET THESE FINISHED UP AND THEN WE'LL DO THE NEXT STEP.

Y'ALL DON'T USE A PINK POST-IT NOTE AS A COASTER FOR YOUR DRINKS BECAUSE THAT STAINS THE TABLES AT THE PINEAPPLE.

YOU CAN DUCK ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SALARY YOU WANT.

FIRST, YOU HAVE TO MAKE ABOUT ZERO DOUBLES OR PAY THE REST OF THEM TO PAY.

THANK YOU.

EVERYBODY SHUT UP AND TAKE YOU OUT HERE TODAY.

GREAT. IT IS SO MUCH ALL OVER, AND IT MAKES IT SO I NEVER GET 1015 DIAMONDS.

[04:40:06]

YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE THE EXACT LANGUAGE LAST YEAR AND THEY JUST ORGANIZATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT YOUTUBE.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE GOT THAT PRIZE POSSESSION FROM, NOT THE BULLET POINT RIFLES, BUT THERE ISN'T A BULLET POINT BECAUSE WE HAD ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES THIS YEAR.

AND THERE'S A BIG BULLET POINT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU.

SO IT'S. DISCUSSION ON THIS, AS YOU CAN SEE.

YES.

NOW I WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH SOME VISITORS. SO MUCH OF THIS SUCCESS IS.

START THE CONVERSATION. YEAH, THAT'S ONE OR TWO BY THREE OR SO.

AND SO I THINK AS A SUPERVISOR, I THINK THAT IT PREVENTS MISUNDERSTANDING FOREVER. KITCHEN.

SHE RANG ME AND SHE GAVE. SO MUCH SO THAT THAT WAS GOING.

JUST. JUST.

YEAH. SHE WASN'T THE ONLY. EVERY SECTOR UTILITY, BUT NOT ALL JUST CREATES VALUE

[04:45:05]

SHOOTS IN THE WAY THEY IT IS NOW.

SO I AGREE THAT SHE JUST CAN'T BE A POLITICIAN MAJOR, AND SHE SEEMS TO BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCIENCE BASED AND EVIDENCE BASED.

THE REASON I FORGET, THE REASON I PUT THAT IN THERE IS WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO GO AND SAY LOOKS COMPARABLE CITY DOING IN THE COMPARABLE CITIES NOT DOING STUFF THAT'S EVIDENCE BASED.

WELL IT'S NOT IT'S NOT MUCH THAT YOU AND I MEAN IT BUT IN THE SENSE THAT I'VE SEEN IT DONE AND THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN GIVING ME PAUSE.

I DON'T WANT TO JUST COMPARABLES BASED.

I WANT TO BASED ON THE NOT JUST DATA OF THE LIST FEELS DOING IT.

IT'S LIKE, OH, I KNOW IT WHEN HE'S DOING MENDY'S DOING.

SHE LIVES DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.

OKAY, SO WE JUST I WANT THAT TO BE NOT JUST FOR ME.

I WANT TO USE STATISTICS.

I ALWAYS WANT THESE 2 MINUTES, AND I NEED TO FIND THE REST OF IT.

BUT FINISHING THESE AND WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO GROUPS SOMETIMES, RIGHT? YES, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M DOING.

I GO TO SCHOOL BIOLOGY OR ECOLOGY, AND I MOSTLY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SO LUCKY THERE.

IT MEANS, WHAT IS THIS ECONOMIC SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE GETTING IT DONE? SO I THINK THAT GREW OUT OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

THAT'S HOW WE CAN IMPROVE EFFICIENCY, FOR EXAMPLE, BY WORKING ON RESTAURANTS.

THAT'S AN EFFICIENCY AND A SUSTAINABILITY.

ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO SAY SHE'S BEEN KEEPING A SCALE.

NO, WE'RE NOT MAKING POLICY.

THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THIS.

WELL, NO, THAT'S PART OF WALKABILITY.

ALTERNATIVES TO DRIVING, WHICH GOT BEAT ON BY MY EXPRESSION, IS SORT OF READY WHERE I NEED TO GO. I NEED THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

I NEED. CHRIS WALKED DOWN THE HALL THAT WAY.

AND WHO ELSE? AND YOU'RE OUT THERE.

I'M RIGHT HERE. ALL RIGHT.

JUST CHRIS. FINE, CHRIS.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE READY TO ROCK AND ROLL.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO IN THERE AND GET IT.

MAYBE RIGHT. MAYBE. REMEMBER, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO WHEEL THESE BACK TO YOUR GROUPS.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE COMMENTS AND DECIDE WHAT CHANGES YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE.

AND WE WILL DO THAT IN THE LARGE GROUP ON THE WITH THE POWERPOINT UP IN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

SO HOPEFULLY 5 MINUTES, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

I AM GOING TO CHALLENGE THE GROUP HERE, WILL SEE THIS GROUP TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE INTRODUCTORY SENTENCES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER GROUP.

SO KIND OF A STRONG FIRST SENTENCE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE BULLET POINTS ON THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

ONE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO? ALL RIGHT, GOOD.

YOU'RE ALL PRACTICALLY PERFECT IN EVERY WAY.

EVERYTHING DOESN'T.

IN THIS GROUP.

WE OVERSIMPLIFIED CHRIS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

YOU ALL WANT TO SWAP. YOU ALL WANT TO WRITE THE SENTENCE 4 HOURS.

AND WE DID THE BULLET POINTS FOR YOURS.

I'M GOING TO SCOOT YOU ACTUALLY, RYAN.

WOULD YOU HELP THIS GROUP THAT NEED SENTENCES? YES, I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN HELP YOU WRITE REALLY GOOD.

HE'S THE REASON WHY GOOD.

AND YOURS WAS BAD.

[04:50:02]

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING RIGHT HERE.

I'LL BE HONEST. I'D BE FINE WITH RYAN JUST TAKING ALL OF THESE AND FIX ME.

I THINK I'M KIDDING. PROFESSIONALLY EQUIPPED TO DO EXACTLY.

THAT WAS A REAL SUGGESTION.

GILBERT'S TAKING YOU UP ON IT RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THAT RYAN WAS RIGHT.

ALL OF THESE. WE'RE NOT ALL, ETC..

GIVE DIRECTION. YEAH.

THEY WANT US TO KNOW THE PERSON WE'RE EXPECTING.

THAT'S FINE. WE CAN DO THAT.

CAN I HAVE THE POST BACK TO HELP OVER HERE? WRITE THE SENTENCE REAL QUICK.

IT'S JUST 35.

AT 245, I'M GOING TO START GOING THROUGH MY RIGHT TO HAVE OUR LEAD SETTINGS.

JUST LIGHTS AND RESPONDING HONESTLY.

OKAY. YEAH.

PERFECT. PERFECT. THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO GOING ON.

I'M GOING TO WRITE BACK DOWN THE STUFF THAT I HAD SPEAK SO.

SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OR TURN IT INTO.

I GUESS THE OBVIOUS THING IS I CAN SEE IT AS WELL.

THAT'S FINE. I GOT DRAFTED.

YOU WANT TO START WITH THAT? WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE OPENING SENTENCE, RIGHT.

AND THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO DEFINE OUR BULLETS BASED ABILITY.

IT'S WE'LL BE AROUND THE SPACES.

BUT FIRST, LET'S TRY TO GET THE REDEVELOPMENT MINUTES.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

NO, I MEAN, IT'S GREAT BASED IN THAT, BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT JUST THAT THE STREETS RUNS PARALLEL.

YEAH. THAT'S ONE GOOD THING. YES, I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S NOT AN ARMCHAIR.

I CAN SEE THIS. SORRY IF.

SO DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THEIR COMPONENTS? I GUESS OUR TOPIC ABILITY IS JUST REDEVELOPMENTS FOR A CITY.

IT'S NOT EVEN JUST ONE CITY.

IS IS EVERY AREA IN THE CITY IT WILL BE REDEVELOPED.

THIRD BASE IS GENERALLY THE OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY ARE ALREADY SO ESTABLISHED AREAS.

HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THEM? YOU JUST START SHUTTING DOWN STREETS.

HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT THAT ACROSS AREAS? SO WE CAN'T KNOW HOW MANY EVENTS ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF MOBILITY BUSINESS, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU'RE TRYING TO I MEAN, THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AROUND THE TIME OF THE PASSING OF MOBILITY.

BUT I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP THE MEASURING.

THERE ARE FUTURE ROADWAYS ON THE THOROUGHFARE MAP THAT ARE NOT REGULATED THAT ARE THAT CAN CONSISTENTLY PLAN CONTINUES TO REFLECT A FOCUS ON CAR CENTRIC HIERARCHICAL THOROUGHFARE DESIGN WITHOUT QUESTION.

BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS.

SO THIS WAS REALLY THEN IS IN BOTH THE MOMENT THAT'S BUILT OUT.

AND THEN WE SAY, HOW DO YOU APPLY THIS TO SOMETHING THAT'S SUCH WE WANT TO DO VERSUS SAY, WE MADE A MISTAKE IN CENTURIES AND EIGHTIES AND NINETIES AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT, RIGHT? MAYBE THE FIRST DENTON IS IS NOT OUR WHAT IS 87 AND FUTURE.

THAT BEING SAID, DO YOU THINK IT'S FAIR TO BE WANTING TO SEE DYNAMITE AS TO SAY WE CAN CHANGE THEM TO GO? BUT THE SMARTEST THING I WAS JUST SAYING IS THAT OUR OVERARCHING ACTION IS ENFORCED THROUGH PRINCIPLE.

RIGHT. AND I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IN THERE CAN BE APPLIED.

IT MATCHES THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH WHERE FEASIBLE.

I'M NOT I DON'T GET TO POWERPOINT.

I'M LIKE, OH, WELL, YOUR BODY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU DO THAT.

[04:55:02]

YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, AND AGAIN, I JUST ALWAYS I TRY TO SAY SO THIS IS ART.

SO ARTS AND ARTISTIC FESTIVALS, THAT CORE EVENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S I THINK IF YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IS BASE THAT LETS THE ALBUM CONTINUE TO AS A GIVEN INCREASE ENHANCE.

I'LL ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN.

I'M ASKING YOU ONE WHICH IS I GIVE YOU A FEW MORE.

THERE ARE MORE. THE ONLY REASON I WAS REFERRED TO THIS IS THAT IS THIS ISN'T REALLY RESULTS A LITTLE BIT MORE IF WE'RE DOING BOLD IS ACTUALLY GOING SMALLER ROADWAYS AND SIGNIFICANTLY LESS VEHICLE TRAFFIC ON THE MARKET.

AND HONESTLY, THAT IS 1 TO 5 MINUTES.

I KNOW YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK.

WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING RIGHT NOW? I JUST HEARD THAT THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE ANY CHANGES BASED ON BASED ON NOTES THAT WE'RE HAVING, AT LEAST IN MY TESTING, I WOULD THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A CHOICE THAT WE COULD MAKE TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL NOW THAT NOT THAT ONE HOUR BEFORE ANY OF THESE THINGS ARE OKAY.

SO THAT'S CHANGE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT CITY UTILITIES, IT'S ABOUT ALL UTILITY SERVICES.

SO I'M TRYING TO TELL THAT I WOULD DICKER WITH DEFINITIONS.

IT'S SORT OF ONE ANOTHER WHERE YOU SEE HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE CHARGE INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ADDING ALL.

WHAT YOU TRYING TO SAY IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST US, A CITY.

WE KNOW WE CAN'T SAVE THE CITY.

DOING IT AT LEAST PUT AN OPPORTUNITY ARE JUST THAT.

SO HOW DO WE. HOW DO WE CREATE A FACILITY? RIGHT. WE REALLY DON'T SUPPORT SIGNS HANGING OFF THE WALL.

WHAT I'M SENSING. RIGHT.

SO WHAT WE TRY TO STAY FLEXIBLE, A VERY BROAD BASED MEANS.

BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE OUR INTEREST IN THINGS LIKE THESE PARKS TRYING TO BEND WHERE THEY PUT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

AND SO YOU TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND X IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE HERE.

EITHER WAY, YOU DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO SAY IT.

LET ME GO BACK AND I'LL TAKE IT.

SO WHILE WE DECIDE THESE WORDS RELIABLE POLICY, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT YOU TO.

I JUST WANT A MODIFICATION, A WAY OUT OF ACCESS THAT I TOOK AWAY.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I JUST LOOK IT UP. I TEND TO GO WITH WORDS THAT IT CAN ALSO BE MORE INCLUSIVE.

LIKE WHAT? I JUST THINK THAT THE SYSTEM IS MAKING INACCURACIES IN THE AVERAGE JOE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY. WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING OVER HERE? YEAH. I THE KNOW YOU SHOULD THINK OF PEOPLE OVER HERE.

I TAKE THEM.

[05:00:02]

I THINK YOU'VE GOT SOME THOSE.

SO WE HAVE THOSE ADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. JUST LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. IT JUST. SO I THINK ONE AREA DEFINITIONS.

WE HAVE ONE MORE AND WE'RE BACK AS A BIG GROUP IS LOOKING FOR A NARRATIVE THAT WE SHOULD SAY AND I'M JUST GONNA GET BACK LIKE THIS SO I DON'T GET TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE.

YEAH. SO I'LL STICK IT ON HOW TO.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK IN A MINUTE.

I JUST THINK I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE OTHER THING IS THAT, OH, THAT WAS JUST OH, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON UTILITY PROVIDERS TO BE JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I GOT IT RIGHT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DO IS VERY QUICKLY, EACH GROUP IS GOING TO COMMENT ON WHAT THE STICKY NOTES WERE AND THEN SHARE YOUR REVISED STATEMENT.

SO THE FIRST ONE, THERE'S SOME ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND COLLABORATIVE AND RESPECTFUL LEADERSHIP, WHICH I'LL DO FOR THE FOR THE FIRST SENTENCE.

WHERE ARE WE? I'M DOING THE FIRST ONE.

PURSUE ORGANIZATION, EXCELLENCE AND COLLABORATIVE AND RESPECTFUL LEADERSHIP.

WHAT YOU GOT? OH, IT'S US.

SORRY. YEAH. SO I TRY TO COMBINE A FEW OF THESE, BUT THEN THOSE IS A LEADER AMONG CITY GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE, TRANSPARENT, OR SO ON, AS A LEADER AMONG CITY GOVERNMENTS AND ACHIEVES RESPONSIBLE, TRANSPARENT, RESPECTFUL GOVERNANCE THROUGH.

A FOCUS ON DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION, A COMMITMENT TO THE USE OF DATA ANALYSIS AND METRICS TO INFORM DECISIONS.

ADOPTION OF BEST AND LEADING PRACTICES.

CLEAR COMMUNICATION.

STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

AND MULTIDISCIPLINARY COLLABORATION.

AWESOME. BRING THAT HERE.

IT SEEMS. SOUNDS GOOD.

WHAT IS A GOOD HELPER? WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU KNOW IT WAS ALL RIGHT.

YOU KNOW THE WORDS MILLENNIALS FOR THE WAY MILLENNIALS WOULD WIN.

I'M JUST SAYING. I THINK I'M AN.

WHATEVER THAT IS. MILLENNIALS.

CHEERIO. IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIME.

OH, KNOW ME TOO. ME TOO.

YEAH. I'LL LET IT ALL HANG OUT.

DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL WITH A KEY? JESSE. GEN XERS DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU SPEND TIME HERE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY VERY GENEROUS OF YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

LET'S GIVE THEM A HAND.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS? PRETTY DARN GOOD. GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE ENHANCED INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.

DID YOU ALL MAKE ANY CHANGES? WE MADE A COUPLE OF CHANGES.

I THINK SOMEONE NOTED THAT THE WORD ECOSYSTEM WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

AND I THINK IF WE HAD SPACE AND TIME TO EXPLAIN WHAT WAS MEANT BY THAT, THEN THAT WOULD BE FINE.

BUT SO WE DECIDED TO GO WITH INSTEAD OF ECOSYSTEM, THE CITY FACILITATES AND SUPPORTS RELIABLE, SAFE, SUSTAINABLE AND HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER APOSTROPHE S ACCESS TO CORE SERVICES AND FULL PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS ACHIEVED THROUGH STRATEGIC, INNOVATIVE AND FORWARD THINKING, PLANNING, HOLISTIC AND MULTIMODAL APPROACH TO MOBILITY THAT PROVIDES VIABLE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES.

SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP GRID BASED AND WALKABILITY.

I THINK THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF MORE SPECIFIC POLICY DECISIONS THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT BULLET POINT.

AND SO MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T INCLUDE IT AT THIS STAGE IN OUR CONVERSATION, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER STAGE OF OUR CONVERSATION, HOPEFULLY, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ACTUAL POLICY. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO ADD THE PHRASE UTILITY PROVIDERS AT THE VERY END OF THE LAST BULLET POINT, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

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WERE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT PART OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN RELATION TO THIS.

GOTCHA. ANY COMMENT ON THIS? GOOD JOB, GUYS.

GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S HEAR IT. I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO DO REAL QUICK.

LET'S HEAR IT FROM AN ECONOMIC, FOSTER, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS HAVE FOR US? ALL RIGHT. WELL, THE SENTENCE IS THE SAME.

WE'VE ADDED SOME BULLET POINTS.

A COMMUNITY WITH A DIVERSIFIED TAX BASE WITH DYNAMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING.

WE HAVE FOCUSED ON CHILD CARE NEEDS, FOSTER HIGH QUALITY JOBS THAT PAY A LIVING WAGE, ENHANCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, EMPHASIZE WORKFORCE TRAINING, AND KEEP UTILITY RATES AFFORDABLE.

OK ENHANCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.

NEXT. SORRY, I DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

EMPHASIZE WORKFORCE TRAINING.

KEEP UTILITY RATES AFFORDABLE.

ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS GET WITH THIS.

YEAH. YES.

YES. YES.

STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

WHAT Y'ALL GOT FOR US? ALL RIGHT. AS YOU AGAIN, REINFORCE A STRONG KNIT COMMUNITY WITH DIVERSE DIVERSITY AND ENGAGEMENT.

TAKE OUT THE DENTON IS THERE IN THE FIRST BULLET POINT IS DENTON IS WELCOMING AND ACCEPTING.

RIGHT. THEN PROMOTE INCLUSIVITY FOR POSITIVE, EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITIES.

PROVIDE ACCESS FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW AND SUCCEED.

A HOME TO COMMUNITY.

A HOME TO COMMUNITY.

DO YOU GUYS LIKE IT? YES. ENTHUSIASM.

WHILE WE SUPPORT HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES, WHAT HAVE YOU GOT FOR ME, RYAN? ARE YOU GOING TO BE BRINGING ON THIS ONE? SO RYAN IN PLACE IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY ON THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH.

ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON.

YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITY ON THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I'LL FIX THIS. YEP.

AND JUST THREE BULLET POINTS.

PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED AND WELL STAFFED.

PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES.

YEAH. NEXT WEEK, COLLABORATION AND ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COMMUNITY.

ONE IS LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY, INNOVATION AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO DO THIS.

ANY COMMENTS? GOOD. YOU LIKE IT? YEAH.

THREE OF MY. AND FINALLY, SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

BACK TO YOU GUYS. DID YOU MAKE ANY CHANGES HERE? WE DID NOT BECAUSE IT WAS PRACTICALLY PERFECT ALREADY.

SO SORRY.

SO. WELL, OKAY. I GUESS I THINK RYAN RAISED SOME CONCERNS THAT THE PHRASE EVIDENCE BASED AND THE WORDS EVIDENCE BASED EVIDENCE AND EFFICIENT COULD MAYBE BE MISINTERPRETED.

BUT BASICALLY WE COULDN'T.

WE HAD A HARD TIME COMING UP WITH A DIFFERENT WORDING THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT WITHOUT JUST WRITING PARAGRAPHS AND PARAGRAPHS. SO WE DECIDED THE SAME.

AND YOU WANT THE WORD EFFICIENT, NOT EFFECTIVE.

OH, YES. YEAH.

WE DIDN'T WRITE EFFECTIVE.

GOTCHA. OK.

DOES THIS WORK FOR FOLKS? DO WE HAVE AN OBJECTION? BRIAN, WE KNOW YOU HAD SOME COMMENTS.

YOU GOOD WITH IT THE WAY IT IS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THESE STICKY NOTES OFF.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR THOUGHTS.

AND THIS IS NEXT.

ALL RIGHT. SO YOU ALL WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL, WHICH IS TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON PARTICULAR INITIATIVES THAT MIGHT FURTHER SUCCESS IN THESE AREAS.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BY WRITING ONE IDEA PER STICKY NOTE AND PLACING IT.

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JUST IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE'S WRITING.

JUST COME UP AND PUT THEM ON THE THE CORRESPONDING BOARDS.

IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE LIKE SEVEN IN EACH AREA LIKE WE THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE JUST ONE.

DO YOU HAVE ONE THING IN EACH AREA THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT UP THERE? WHAT'S YOUR ONE THING? OR IF YOU DID HAVE ONE IN ONE AREA, YOU COULD HAVE TWO IN AN AREA, SO MAYBE GIVE THEM SEVEN TOTAL OR SOMETHING.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC THINGS, YOU'VE GOT 5 MINUTES TO WRITE THEM DOWN AND PLUCK THEM UP.

OK. YEAH.

THAT ANSWER.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL LET YOU MAYBE.

KEEP THEM WITH YOU, AND I'LL HAVE EACH OF YOU COME UP AND SAY WHAT THEY ARE AND PUT THEM OUT SO WE CAN KIND OF HEAR THEM THROUGH THE SCREENS OFF.

SO THIS CAN JUST COME IN.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'LL KNOW YOU'RE READY WHEN YOU STOPPED WRITING.

THAT'S GOING TO BE MY VISUAL CLUE.

WHAT IS MAKING THIS COMPANY.

ALL RIGHT. WHAT WERE THEY? IT WAS GAS.

LOOKING AT THE DIVE COMING OUT OF THAT DARK.

GAS LEAKING OUT, MAKING A NOISE.

I JUST WANT TO BEGIN THINKING ABOUT THE MIDWEST RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE.

OH, NO. BUT IT IS.

NO. ALL RIGHT.

BUT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PLAY TOO MUCH SPACE IN HERE ON THE DESK? JUST STAY THERE. I'M GOING TO CALL YOU ON YOU TO SHARE.

OH, I'LL HAVE TO GET OVER YOUR FEAR OF PUBLIC SPACE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT.

YOU.

LET'S. RIGHT.

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JUST TO. HE'S.

WHEN THESE OK.

ARE EVERYBODY ABOUT READY? YOU'RE WRITING YOUR LAST ONE MAYBE.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND WE'LL JUST GO AROUND.

JESSE, DO YOU MIND GOING FIRST? JUST COMING UP, TELLING FOLKS WHAT YOUR ITEM IS AND PUT IT ON THE RIGHT SPOT.

HOW WOULD YOU SAY THANK YOU? FIRST ONE IS KIND OF THE MOST BROAD, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT OVER ON COMMUNITY QUALITY LIFE.

AND THAT'S THE DOWNTOWN MASTERPLAN.

I THINK THAT'S MAINLY I KNOW THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.

THAT'S JUST MAINLY TO COSIGN WHAT IS OUT THERE AND INTRODUCE THE IDEA THAT I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT PLAN TELLS US, WE MIGHT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A BOND AND SEE WHAT THAT SAYS. MY NEXT ONE GOES IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, BUT I'M GOING TO PUT IT I'M CHOOSING TO PUT IT ON.

I'LL WALK RIGHT PAST IT. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE A PROOF OF CONCEPT ELECTRIC CIRCULATOR BUS ROUTE, A DENTON OWNED AND OPERATED MAYBE BUS WITH A WRAP ON IT THAT'S GOT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP LOGO ON ITS GOT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LOGO ON IT.

IT'S ELECTRIC BUS THAT GOES FROM THE TRANSIT CENTER TO THE HOSPITAL ON OAK AND HICKORY.

AND IT'S A PROOF OF CONCEPT TO SHOW THAT WE CAN HAVE FIXED ROUTES THAT RUN ON ELECTRICITY AND GO BETWEEN KNOWN DESTINATIONS FROM THE TRANSIT CENTER TO THE HOSPITAL.

OC PRESBYTERIAN.

YEAH, JUST BECAUSE THOSE ARE ROADS THAT CONNECT PROOF OF CONCEPT.

OKAY. THE LAST ONE IS AND I'M CHOOSING TO PUT IT ON HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.

THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

I'VE STARTED SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME FOLKS, BUT I'D LIKE TO DO IS PARTNER WITH VULCAN MATERIALS TO RELOCATE THE CONCRETE PLANT IN SOUTHEAST DENTON.

OH YEAH, YEAH. I'D LIKE TO TAKE DISTRICT ONES ISSUE AND MAKE IT DISTRICT OR ISSUE, PUT IT OUT IN THE TJ TO THE LESS THE COMPANY WANTS TO RELOCATE THERE, THEY'RE MOTIVATED TO RELOCATE THERE. THEY ARE LEADERS AND ENVIRONMENTALLY DOING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY, DOING THE BUSINESS THAT THEY DO.

THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR US TO GET INTO PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND HEAD THEM OUT WEST.

VULCAN MATERIALS. VULCAN MATERIALS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, BRANDON, WHAT YOU GOT FOR US? RIGHT. SO OUR FIRST TWO ARE THINGS THAT I FOUND THAT WERE FUN OVER HERE ON COMMUNITY.

AND BOY, YOU JUST TAKE OTHER PEOPLE.

SO IT IS BRINGING BACK CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY AND KIDS PLEASE ACADEMY, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

MY NEXT ONE QUESTION HERE'S MY NEXT ONE GOES UNDER AFFORDABILITY AND THAT'S HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE GRADUAL GROWTH OF RENTS IN THE CITY.

SO THIS WILL ALSO GOES UNDER QUALITY OF LIFE, DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF BIKE LANES IN THE CITY, BECAUSE I HEARD FROM COUNTLESS STUDENTS THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HEARD FROM SOME OF THE OFFICERS ON THE BIKE TEAM THAT THAT WAS ALSO AN ISSUE FOR THEM.

AND THE VERY LAST ONE GOES OVER HERE FOR ME.

IT GOES OVER HERE. AND THIS WAS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE STATEMENTS AMONG ALL CONTRACTORS WHO WORK WITH THE CITY.

WHICH AREA DID YOU PUT IT IN? I PUT IT UNDER LEADERSHIP.

AND WHAT IS IT? I ENCOURAGING BY STATEMENTS FROM ALL CONTRACTORS TO WORK WITH THE CITY, AND I PUT IT UNDER LEADERSHIP FOR A SPECIFIC REASON BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT LEADERSHIP FILTERS DOWN FROM ON HIGH.

THIS IS IMPORTANT BASED OFF OF WHAT WE HAVE SAID FOR US.

THEREFORE, WE MUST COMMUNICATE TO THE PEOPLE WE'RE WORKING FOR.

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THAT IS ONE OF OUR VALUES AND ALSO MAY BE ONE OF YOUR VALUES.

SO I COULD HAVE PUT IT SOMEPLACE ELSE, BUT I KIND OF WONDER IF THERE FOR SPECIFIC REASON BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US.

ALISON I HAVE A LOT AND EVERYONE'S JUST GOING TO DEAL WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE ARE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

BUT HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE LISTED AS OUR PRIORITIES INITIATIVES THAT WERE KIND OF TEED UP BUT HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET. SO IN TERMS OF HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES, I HAVE EXPANDED.

THE CERT PROGRAM CHIEF HAS TALKED TO US.

SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE, BUT NOT QUITE LARGE ENOUGH.

IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT 24 HOURS A DAY.

THERE AREN'T QUITE ENOUGH.

WHAT'S THE WORD? I'M LOOKING FOR FTES TO SUPPORT THE WORK THEY'RE DOING, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT EXPANDED.

SUPPORTING HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES, FUNDING AND HIRING A PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE RAN INTO ISSUES WITH QUITE A LOT THE LAST YEAR.

I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR SUPPORTING HEALTHY COMMUNITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, FUTURE ROADWAYS TO BE GRID BASED AND BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, INVESTING IN SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY.

WE'RE GOING GRID BASED AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AND LAND USE POLICIES ACTUALLY.

I'M GOING TO PUT LAND USE POLICIES UNDER SUSTAINABILITY, LAND USE POLICIES THAT SUPPORT WALKABILITY.

HERE WE GO. OH. OH, I'M SORRY.

HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES.

I INTENDED THIS ONE TO GO THERE AS WELL.

ROADWAY DESIGN THAT IS FOCUSED ON SPEED REDUCTION AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY BECAUSE OF SAFETY.

WHEN I THINK OF SAFETY, USUALLY THE FIRST THING I THINK OF IS ROADWAY SAFETY IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

EXECUTING OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN, WE HAVE ONE.

IT'S A GOOD ONE, BUT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR FOCUS ON THAT AND DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING OUR SMALL AREA PLANS, WHICH IS GOES ALONG WITH COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS DAVISES.

HE MENTIONED ONCE FOR PARTICULAR SRP, BUT DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING THOSE BROADLY PRESENTED A QUALITY OF LIFE.

YES, YES.

COMMUNICATING QUALITY OF LIFE AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY.

REEVALUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US REEVALUATING THE GREEN SENSE AND THE SOLAR REBATE PROGRAM.

COUNCILMEMBER WHAT'S RECENTLY BROUGHT UP OFFERING INCENTIVES FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING IN PRIVATE RESIDENCES.

AND I THINK THAT COULD BE THE TO REEVALUATE OUR GREEN SENSE AND SOLAR REBATE PROGRAM.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE AND EXPANDING OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE FLEET AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ROADWAY DESIGN FOCUSED ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

WHERE DID YOU PUT THAT SUPPORTING HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITIES? ROADWAY DESIGN FOCUSED ON SPEED REDUCTION.

OH, YOU DID? WHO IS NEXT? THAT'S ME. IF WE'RE GOING I THINK IT'S YOU SO MENTIONED IT SOME YESTERDAY, I DO BELIEVE.

BUT UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE.

COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP, I THINK THIS GOES HERE.

I DON'T KNOW. SOMEONE WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

NEW NEW CITY HALL.

AND I'D LIKE TO BE HAVE A MIXED, MIXED RETAIL COMPONENT, MIXED USE RETAIL PARKING.

AND LET ME LET ME PUT SOME EXPLANATION BEHIND THAT.

WHEN YOU SO YOU TALKED ABOUT CONTROLLING COST AND YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHAT YOU DON'T OWN.

THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT YOURS TO DO.

SO IF THE CITY HAS AN PARTNERS WITH A DEVELOPER AND HAS AN AGREEMENT, OUR DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE RETAIL SPOTS AND WE'RE GOING TO CAP THE RENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE RENTS IN EXCHANGE FOR NOW, GOING FORWARD, AS THE CITY OF DENTON GETS MORE EXPENSIVE FOR PEOPLE TO LEASE, WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO

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MAINTAIN AN ORGANIC FIELD OF FOUR BUSINESSES HERE IN THE CITY OF DENTON BECAUSE WE'RE PART OWNERS AND WE CAN WE CAN ABSORB THAT AND AT THE SAME TIME PARTNER WITH SOMEONE.

SO IT'S IN ITS ABILITY TO KEEP THE RETAIL SPACES AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE THAT WOULD WANT TO COME HERE, THAT MAY NOT MAKE IT PRICED OUT IN JUST THE MARKET. THEN THIS GOES TO STRENGTH OF COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE, I DO BELIEVE.

AND IT READS MUNICIPAL HOUSING CORPORATIONS WANT US TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HUB IS FOCUSED ON LOW INCOME HOUSING. THAT'S THAT'S BY DECREE.

SO IF WE WANT TO FOCUS ON MEDIUM INCOME HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE NEED A HOUSING COURT TO DO THAT BECAUSE HUD, BY ITS VERY NATURE OF ITS FORM, IT'S FOCUSED ON ONLY LOW INCOME HOUSING.

THAT'S ALL THEY CAN DO.

SO THAT GIVES US ANOTHER ARROW.

THEN THIS WOULD BE THESE TWO, I THINK GO HERE AND THIS IS DRIVING CRAZY.

I'M GOING TO SCRATCH THE SCREEN.

SO THIS IS HISTORICAL.

I DON'T USE BUSINESSES HUB PREFERENCE.

WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE. WE HAVE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING PROTECTIONS AND I KNOW IT'S IN THE WORKS.

WE'RE IMPLEMENTING PROTECTIONS AND PREFERENCES FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT WE'VE YET TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR HISTORIC, HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES, EXCEPT SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND THEN I THINK THIS WOULD BE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AFFORDABILITY AS WELL.

WE HAVE A GIANT YEAH, WE LOSE A TON OF MONEY THE CITY.

SO THIS IS MULTI SPORT MULTIGENERATIONAL FACILITY AND SO THAT'S LIKE A FIELDHOUSE TYPE THING.

SO YOUTH SPORTS, WE LOSE SO MUCH MONEY OUT OF THE CITY OF DENTON.

EVEN LIKE DALLAS HAS A FACILITY WHICH IS GETTING A BUTTS KICKED FROM A PEOPLE LEAVING DEBT AND GOING AND SPENDING MONEY ELSEWHERE.

SO WHAT I ENVISION IS A FACILITY THAT HAS BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, THEN IT ALSO HAS PICKLEBALL, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN HAVE GRANDMA, GRANDPA, MOM, DAD AND THE KIDS AND GRANDKIDS ALL COMING TO DENTON TO PARTICIPATE IN TOURNAMENTS ALL WEEKEND AND SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY AT WINCO AND ALBERTSONS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY.

THOSE ARE MINE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MICKEY, CAN YOU GO THIS WAY? YOU CAN SEE THE COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE I HAVE HERE FAMILY FRIENDLY ENTERTAINMENT, WHICH INCLUDES ENCOURAGING MORE FESTIVALS.

FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

I HAVE ENCOURAGED LOCAL BUSINESSES TO THRIVE.

I'M ALWAYS VERY ENCOURAGED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE VIABILITY OF LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES.

THAT'S OUR THING.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE KEEPING THAT.

SO DID YOU SAY ENCOURAGE OR SUPPORT? ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT? ALSO, MAYOR, I HAVE SOMETHING HERE AS WELL WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING SOLUTIONS.

THERE MAY BE A PROGRAM OUT THERE AND I'VE HEARD THAT THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE WHERE THEY WILL ALLOW POTENTIAL HOMEOWNERS TO RENT, TO BUY, JUST LIKE A RENT TO BUY PROGRAM THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND ALSO FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, INCREASED TOURISM.

AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM DISCOVER, DISCOVER THAT MORE OFTEN IN SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

I KNOW THAT WE ALL THE COMMUNITY TO DO THE HOT PHONES, BUT IT'S ALWAYS REALLY COOL TO HEAR ABOUT THE NEW THINGS AND REFRESHING THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO GET BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO COME HERE.

AND SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE CAN STAY.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

SO GOOD, SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.

I WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET EVERYTHING THEY ASK FOR.

BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE NOT SLOWING DOWN.

WE'RE IT'S GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER.

AND THEY NEED MORE AND MORE AND MORE.

SO I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO DO THAT AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

HEALTH AND SAFETY IS, OF COURSE, A PRIORITY ON MY LIST.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE AREA OF HEALTH AND SAFETY OF CITY STAFF AND SUSTAINABILITY.

SOMETIMES WE JUST CAN'T GET THESE THINGS DONE BECAUSE OF OUR TURNOVER.

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HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GURU TO COME TO US.

SO IF WE CAN REALLY SUPPORT OUR CITY STAFF BY LETTING THEM DO THEIR JOBS, LETTING THEM BE THE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS.

MAYBE THEY WILL STAY AND WE ALSO PAY THEM EQUITABLY TO BE ABLE TO STAY AS WELL.

THOSE ARE MY THINGS. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, CHRIS, CAN YOU READ MY OWN WRITING? WHAT'S NEW? I'M NOT SURE WHERE TO PUT THIS ONE BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, AND I WAS GLAD.

JESSE. I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS WHOLE RELOCATION OF THIS SEGMENT, BECAUSE ONE THAT I HAVE.

SO I'M EITHER GOING TO PUT IT ON AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, BUT I'M ALSO I'M GOING TO PUT IT OVER HERE.

WHERE IS YOURS, JESSE? ON THE SCENE HERE.

AND THIS IS TO THINK BIG FOR A MULTI EVENT, FOR MULTI USE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER EAST OF BELL AVENUE, SORT OF THE TRINITY INDUSTRY TRACK OF LAND, WHICH THEN WOULD INCLUDE, IF WE COULD AS A MOTIVATION TO RELOCATE THE CEMENT PLANT, WHICH WOULD OPEN ALL OF THAT UP.

IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF THE TRAIN STATION BY THE TRAIN ROUTE.

CREATE THIS UNDER AFFORDABILITY.

CREATE A PUBLIC FINANCING CORPORATION.

I HAVE A TWO MINUTE PITCH ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD ALLOW US WHEN SITUATIONS HAPPEN LIKE HAS HAPPENED WHERE WE'VE GOT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT COMES INTO TOWN AND FOR SOME REASON AND IT'S OC WHATEVER THE REASON IS, IF HOUSING AUTHORITIES ARE UNABLE TO DO THAT AT THE TIME, IT PREVENTS US OR PREVENTS THEM FROM HAVING TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY TO PARTNER UP WITH SOMEONE THAT KEEPS THOSE FEES HERE.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IT ALLOWS US TO BE AT THE TABLE IN DEVELOPING THE PROJECT THAT CREATES ALLOWS US TO CREATE A PROJECT THAT'S MORE TAILORED TO THE NEEDS. THE PROJECT THAT WAS, I GUESS, APPROVED AT P AND Z, 40 UNITS FOR 30% AREA MEDIAN INCOME RESIDENTS.

40 UNITS COUNCIL PASSED SIX RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT IN FEBRUARY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT'S MORE IN THIS ONE PROJECT OF 30% AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

THEN WE'RE IN ALL OF THE ONES COMBINED IN THAT.

SO WE NEED WORKFORCE HOUSING.

BUT I THINK WE ALSO SEE QUITE RAPIDLY WE'RE SEEING A NEED FOR THOSE LOWER AREA MEDIAN INCOMES.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME TO MY ATTENTION DURING THE CAMPAIGN, WHICH I WASN'T AWARE OF, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY I WASN'T AWARE OF IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A TASK FORCE AND JUST COME UNDER, SUPPORT ME AND SAY COMMUNITIES A TASK FORCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON SCHOOL, DISTRICT, COUNTY NONPROFITS TO ADDRESS THE AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE ISSUE. THAT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

IT WAS IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT HALF OF THE CHILD CARE FACILITIES DURING THE PANDEMIC CLOSED OR DIDN'T REOPEN AFTER THAT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A REGIONAL SORT OF COUNTYWIDE FOR SURE, TASK FORCE TO SEE HOW CAN WE PROVIDE SOME SOME RELIEF TO THAT AND COME UP WITH SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITIES.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND TO INCENTIVIZE COUNCIL DIRECTED EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

I THINK WE'RE MISSING OUT TO OUR REGIONAL, REGIONAL CITIES, OUR CITIES SURROUNDING US IN ATTRACTING THE KIND OF BUSINESSES THAT WE WANT TO BRING HERE. SO I THINK THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

AND THEN AGAIN, AS A TWO MINUTE PITCH TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK THAT'S HERE BOTH FOR SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY AND THEN ALSO THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SO THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GOING SOMEWHERE, THEY CAN ACTUALLY CHARGE YOUR CARS.

ALL RIGHT, OK, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM YOUR MOTHER.

OH, OH, SURE.

I'LL JUST BE EMAILING YOU ALL MY RETURNS.

SO I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO PUT YOU IN SHORT ORDER.

SO SLOWLY BACK, STARTING OVER HERE WITH THIS ONE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, I'M KIND OF DOUBLING DOWN ON THIS IDEA OF MAKING SURE THAT STAFF HAS ALL THEIR RESOURCES, SORT OF A WORKFORCE EQUITY ISSUE.

AND SO I SAID A FIELD OFFICERS OF ALL SORTS, FIRE SAFETY, ANIMAL SERVICES, FIELD OFFICERS OF ALL SORTS, FULLY EQUIPPED AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, AND THEN UNDER SUPPORTING HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.

I HAVE TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT FEELS LIKE BETWEEN OUR NONPROFITS, THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY, WE'RE NOT NOT DOING A GREAT JOB, I THINK, IN DOCUMENTING SERVICE GAPS.

SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DASHBOARD OR TOOL FOR DOCUMENTING SERVICE GAPS AND UNHOUSED INITIATIVES OF VARIOUS SORTS.

I THINK WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF THINGS SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS THAT THE NONPROFITS COULD ADDRESS, BUT THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT SEEN AS A SERVICE.

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SO DOCUMENT SERVICE GAPS AND DASHBOARD.

ANOTHER THING I'M GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON A PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICER.

I THINK WE'VE SEEN TOO MANY INSTANCES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN.

IT'S DISEASE OR THE UNHOUSED OR ALL KINDS OF THINGS WHERE A PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICER WOULD PROVIDE EXPERTISE, AND THAT'S THEN UNDER SUSTAINABILITY.

WELL, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS WHERE CHRIS AND I ALIGN.

AND SO WE COULD PUT THAT UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT I SAID A STEP EXPAND ELECTRIC ADOPTION, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL SOLAR REBATES, WHICH WOULD BE UNDER SUSTAINABILITY.

BUT ALSO, I MEAN THAT AN INFRASTRUCTURE I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME EMPHASIS ON MUNICIPAL LEVEL STORAGE.

SO I'M GOING TO PUT THIS RIGHT BETWEEN SUSTAINABILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE WHAT IS IT? I SAID EXPAND ELECTRIC ADOPTION, INCLUDING SOLAR REBATES AND MUNICIPAL LEVEL STORAGE.

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE ON SUSTAINABILITY THAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS IS SORT OF INCREASING OUR BIODIVERSITY.

WHICH EXAMPLES WOULD BE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, BIRD, CITY AND DARK SKIES? WE'RE ALREADY DOING A LOT OF THOSE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO PUT SOME EMPHASIS ON THAT.

AND THEN UNDER SO I SAID BIODIVERSITY, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, BIRD CITY AND DARK SKIES, AND THEN UNDER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY, I SAID PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS AND RETAIL OPTIONS LIKE LIKE 80,000 ACRES.

WHAT ARE THE COYOTES DOING THAT? THAT'S BIODIVERSITY CONSERVATION.

OKAY. SO THIS CASE, I AM GOING TO JUST KIND OF ORGANIZE THESE SO YOU ALL CAN.

I PUT THESE TOGETHER AS KIND OF LIKE IF THEY'RE THE SAME IDEA, CAN I CAN I MAKE THEM TOUCH? NO, DON'T TOUCH.

I DON'T LIKE IT. THIS ONE ALSO SAYS ABOUT VEHICLE ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE.

MAY I ADD IT HERE ALSO FOR PUBLIC? LET ME GET TO THE PROGRESSIVE BELIEVES.

YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT IS STICKING WITH SOMETHING? YES, I KNOW.

SO I GOT TO TELL YOU, I STILL DON'T KNOW, ACTUALLY.

I'M.

I SEE YOU FANS. IS THAT TRUE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

18, 20, 20, 22.

YES. OKAY.

I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU EACH 12 DOTS, INCLUDING THE ONES ON THE FLOOR.

NOW, HOLD ON.

NOW, HERE'S MY RULES FOR DOTS.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU 12 DOTS.

YOU SHOULD MAKE SOME KIND OF A MARK ON IT SO YOU KNOW IT'S YOURS AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO COME.

AND OF THESE 36 IDEAS, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT YOUR DOTS ON THE 12 THAT YOU LIKE THE MOST, THAT YOU SAY, YES, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO START TO FOCUS ON THIS.

I SHARE THIS PRIORITY, KIND OF MAKE IT MAKE YOUR TOUCH THE STICKY NOTE UP HERE SO I KNOW IT'S ON IT.

SO I'VE SPACED THEM OUT, SO IT SHOULD WORK PRETTY WELL.

SO I'M GOING TO COME AROUND AND GIVE YOU YOUR THAT'S WHAT WE END UP SAID.

12, RIGHT? THAT'S SEVEN.

YES. YES.

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SO HERE'S FIVE AND MAKE SURE YOU MARK THEM SO YOU KNOWS WHERE YOUR THINGS WENT.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.

SO NOW IF YOU DON'T, YOU SET A COUPLE OF RULES.

YOU CAN'T PUT ALL 12 OF YOUR DOTS ON YOUR FAVORITE ONE THING.

THAT'S A RULE.

AND IF YOU DON'T USE ALL YOUR DOGS, THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.

BUT YOU CAN'T SELL THE HOUSE.

SO ONE PERSON GETS ONE DOT ON THEIR 12 FAVORITE THINGS AND YOU ONLY HAVE TEN FOR YOUR GUYS.

BACK TO ME. THE DOG POLICE ARE WATCHING YOU, SO LET'S GO.

ALL RIGHT, ON YOUR MARK.

COME ON. WHICH I'M GOING TO SHARE.

GOOD. OH, NO, NO.

HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS SORT OF ACCESS ISSUE, I GOT TO TELL YOU WHAT USED TO BE ONE OF MY WOULD AGREE TO THINGS THAT AREN'T FRIENDSHIP WALKERS WITH A B, NO ALCOHOL. WHAT DID YOU SAY? I PUT UP A PROCESS THAT'S KIND OF A NEW IDEA.

OKAY, SO, YEAH, THAT'S.

THAT'S OVER HERE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. LET'S.

LET'S GO DOWNTOWN.

MASTER PLAN AND SAPS THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS WONDERFUL.

YES. RIGHT, RIGHT.

YEAH. WE NEED YOU TO.

AND SO JEFFREY IS PLAYING QUIETLY IN THE BACKGROUND.

THEY WOULD GIVE ME A LOT OF TIME, SO I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PENETRATE.

ARE YOU ARE YOU DOUBLE VOTING? I THINK THEY'RE GREAT.

SO DON'T PUT TOO THERE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD JOB.

DEPUTIZE THE POLICE.

YOU JUST PUT ALL 12.

YEAH. YEAH. WHAT'S THAT MATERIAL? OKAY, WE'VE JUST BEEN.

YEAH, THIS IS THE SAME THING.

OH, YEAH. THAT'S THE SAME THING.

YES. EVEN A SOCCER GAME IS AN INDOOR COWBOY.

WE'VE GOT NO CAMERA.

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I TOLD YOU, I DON'T. YES, I KNOW.

I JUST. I JUST.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO TRAIN LATE SATURDAY NIGHT AND THEN.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO WORK.

IT JUST FALLS OUT. YEAH.

I THINK I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT I WANT.

12 BULLETS. SURE.

I JUST. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

NOT SHOOTING THE BALL.

ACCESSORY, DWELLING, ACCESSORY, DWELLING IN A COMMERCIAL SHOP IN YOUR HOME MALL, OWNING YOUR OWN MONEY, CURRENT STORE INSTEAD OF A GARAGE.

OH, SORRY. THIS TODAY, I'M STICKING UP FOR, LIKE, 2.5 HOURS.

ALREADY GOT DONE.

HURRY UP. YOU KNOW. OH SIX.

SEE WHAT THEY ALSO NEED? OH, YOU MEAN THE ONES? YOU.

THIS PRINCIPLE.

YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AT ONE POINT.

I KNOW WHAT I WANT.

I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT TWO CASES SOME DAYS, RIGHT? IS THAT TRUE? NO.

SHE MUST'VE BEEN ARGUING THAT YOU CAN'T SEE.

THAT'S THE POINT. I THINK YOU SHOULD.

YOUR SHOES. A CONVERSATION EVERYWHERE.

THIS IS A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING A.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO FREAK OUT.

SO JUST LIKE THIS.

AND WE REALLY BELIEVE IN THEM.

I SUPPOSE I HAVE TO.

RIGHT. I GUESS TO RUN.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A PLAYER.

THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. LIKE WHAT SHE'S DONE.

YEAH, I GOT A GUY.

ARE YOU DONE WITH THESE BOARDS LIKE THIS? YOU NEVER SEEN HIM STAND BESIDE LADIES? IT'S STRAIGHT ON DOWNTOWN.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS FIVE OK.

GOOD. GOOD DESIGN.

ARE YOU PLAYING THAT? JUST A LITTLE HUMOR HERE IN YOUR APPROACH.

HOW MUCH? ALL RIGHT, DECIDING WHETHER I WANT WHAT I WANT FOR 800 SO I IT DOESN'T HAVE.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING YOU ALL AGREE.

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SO WHAT? THERE'S ONE THING THEY SEEM TO REALLY AGREE ON.

THAT'S THE COMPLETE STUFF.

YEAH, THAT'S.

BY THE WAY, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOOD OUT THERE STILL, SO PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE A PLATE OF SOMETHING TO SNACK FOR LATER OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THERE'S NO ROOM IN THE REFRIGERATOR HERE.

IT'S A GLUTEN FREE REFRIGERATOR, BUT THEY'RE FULL.

I MEAN, LITERALLY, GO LOOK AT IT ALREADY.

SO. AND THERE'S PASTRIES AND PASTRIES AND BAGELS IN INSIDE OF THE KITCHEN.

OKAY. SO LET ME TELL YOU WHERE WE END UP HERE.

THIS ONE ELECTRIC.

SIMPLY BY EXPANDING YOUR ELECTRIC FLEET GETS SICK.

SO THAT IS A BIG ONE.

BIG PRIORITY, AS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THAT ONE HAD FIVE PEOPLE RIGHT THERE.

WE HAD FIVE ON MUNICIPAL HOUSING CORP AND CREATING A PUBLIC.

FINANCE CORPORATION.

YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO THAT'S THE PUBLIC HOUSING.

SO THESE ARE BOTH HOUSING RELATED.

THEY BOTH HAD A LOT OF ENERGY AND THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT EMPLOYMENT SAPS.

SO THOSE ALL HAVE FIVE OR SIX.

THERE'S A HANDFUL WITH FOUR.

PARDON ME, OF COURSE, KIND OF OUR MAGIC NUMBER.

BUT ONE OF THESE WAS TO COME BACK.

IT'S A TWO MINUTE PITCH. TOURISM INCREASE.

TOURISM HAS FOR A BUNCH OVER HERE HAVE FOR PARTNER BUT THE CONCRETE PLANT.

CITY STAFFING, SUSTAINABILITY.

NEW CITY HALL WITH MIXED USE RETAIL PARK.

THERE YOU GO. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU END UP IN TERMS OF PRIORITY.

SO WE'LL GET THOSE BACK TO YOU AS PART OF IT.

AND THEN, SARA, YOU AND YOUR TEAM WILL KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE WORK PLANS LOOK LIKE AND AND THEN USE THIS AS A COMMUNICATION TOOL GOING FORWARD.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED, JUST THAT I KNOW, PARTICULARLY COUNCILMEMBER MCGUIRE MENTIONED, WE ARE WORKING ON AND PROCEEDING FORWARD SO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO BE DONE.

SO TAKE SOME QUICK PICTURES HERE, LIKE TYPING GRAFFITI.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO ANY OTHER FOLLOW UP KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT COMMENT, SARA, BESIDES THE FACT THAT YOU'RE LEAVING TOWN NOW? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GOING ON VACATION AND I WILL NOT BE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY.

I'M SORRY. THEY WILL BE THERE AND ALL ARE IN VERY CAPABLE HANDS.

BUT I HAD PLANNED A VACATION WITH MY FAMILY.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CALIFORNIA AND EXPERIENCE MUCH COOLER WEATHER.

NICE. BUT.

BUT WE WILL TAKE THIS INFORMATION.

WE WILL GET IT. WE'LL DO LIKE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IN THE WORDS OF FORMER MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER.

WE'LL GET THE FOCUS AREAS ON THE WEB PAGE WITH THE PRIORITIES AND THEN DO REPORTS ON THE STATUS OF THINGS, PUT THEM IN OUR PRIORITY SORT OF MODEL AND THEN DO FOLLOW UPS TO KEEP COUNCIL INFORMED.

AND SOME OF THEM WILL REQUIRE SORT OF AN ACTION PLAN OR SOME RESEARCH TO TO LIKE LIKE WE'LL WORK WITH MAC ON THE, ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT INVOLVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR ON THE CONCRETE PLAN, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE WILL PULL THE TEAMS THAT WE NEED AND THEN WE'LL GIVE UPDATES TO COUNCIL ON A REGULAR BASIS OF WHERE WE ARE ON THESE THINGS.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU UPDATES AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST ON YOUR CURRENT THE CURRENT ONES THAT WE STILL ARE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THEM.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THAT YOU WERE GIVEN AS A HANDOUT, WE CHECKED OFF A LOT OF THOSE.

IS IT A QUARTERLY UPDATE THAT YOU GIVE THEM? YES. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THIS MEANS WE'RE READY TO CLOSE.

AND I'M GOING TO INVITE YOU TO CLOSE TODAY WITH THE PARTING THOUGHTS AND MORE THAN JUST ONE WORD THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY.

SO A PARTING THOUGHT ABOUT THE RETREAT, WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

HOWEVER, YOU'RE FEELING AS WE WALK OUT THE DOOR AND MAYOR, I WAS LIKE THE MAYOR, THE CHANCE TO GO FIRST OR LAST.

SO YOU CHOOSE YOUR FIRST OR LAST?

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I'LL GO FIRST JUST BECAUSE I HAD A TON.

IT'S JUST SUMMARY SUMMARIZING.

YEAH. SO.

I THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

I THINK I HOPE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE NEXT WHAT I HOPE WE DO THIS QUARTERLY, MAYBE JUST THE COUNCIL JUST TO GET TOGETHER, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE THING.

IT'S A IT'S A GREAT START.

BUT IF WE DON'T REGULARLY AS A BODY CHECK IN AND HAVE REGULAR HARD CONVERSATIONS, I THINK THIS PROGRESS WON'T WON'T BE SUSTAINABLE.

AND SO I WANT TO SUSTAIN THE PROGRESS BY HAVING QUARTERLY HOPEFULLY JUST KIND OF MEETINGS.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT START TO THIS GROUP AND FOR THIS GROUP.

AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE MEETINGS AND THE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT ARE ENHANCED BASED ON THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE THESE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

THANK YOU. ALISON I.

THE MAYOR TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.

I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD START.

WE WE STARTED SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS.

I DO NOT FEEL LIKE WE FINISHED THEM.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US FOLLOW UP WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH ANOTHER ANOTHER SIMILAR KIND OF MEETING, MAYBE NOT WITH A CONSULTANT AND MAYBE NOT AS MUCH TIME, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I JUST WROTE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO SEE THE SYNERGY GOING FORWARD AND SEE IF WE CAN STAY STRATEGICALLY FOCUSED AND NOT MOVE IN BACK AND FORTH INTO TACTICAL STUFF AS THEY COME IN THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS AND SEE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY GET SOME OF THESE DONE RATHER QUICKLY.

ALL RIGHT. BRANDON.

I, TOO, WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS QUARTERLY.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CHECK IN.

THANK YOU TOO FOR STEPPING UP TO HOST THE FIRST TO APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

I LIKE TEQUILA. YEAH, I THINK THIS WAS.

THIS WAS PRODUCTIVE. THIS THIS THIS NEED TO NEED TO HAPPEN.

AND I.

I WOULD JUST CLOSE BY EMPHASIZING WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME BEYOND COLLEAGUES, TO FRIENDS, TO FAMILY, FAMILIES, THE IDEAL FOR ME.

AND I THINK WE CAN ALL GET THERE.

I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF DAYLIGHT LOOKING AT THIS BOARD AMONG THINGS THAT WE ALL HAVE IN COMMON.

IF WE JUST DO THIS, WE'LL HAVE A GREAT CITY AND WE'LL ALL GET REELECTED.

AND. FROM COUNSEL, IT WAS HELPFUL TO HEAR.

MORE DIALOG ON WHAT GOALS ARE FOR THE CITY.

EVEN IF IT WASN'T SPECIFIC, IT'S STILL HELPFUL TO HEAR WHAT THE HIGH LEVEL PRIORITIES ARE THAT GIVES DIRECTION BEYOND THE SPECIFIC TOPIC THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO HELPFUL.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE ARE MORE SO THIS MORNING, PROBABLY SOME SOME NECESSARY HONESTY THAT WAS GOOD TO GET OUT.

BUT I WILL SAY DEFINITELY IN THE AFTERNOON, YOU KNOW, I SAW A LOT OF AGREEMENT EXHIBITED BETWEEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT FELT GOOD AND FELT NATURAL AND A GOOD FOUNDATION ON THINGS BIG AND SMALL.

SO THAT WAS NICE TO SEE AS A STAFF MEMBERS, JUST DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS COMING TOGETHER AND FINDING THAT COMMON GROUND ON DIFFERENT THINGS.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.

I JUST APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO SPEND TIME WITH ALL OF YOU IN A MORE INFORMAL SETTING AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A LOT TO WORK WITH.

JESSE. I FEEL I FEEL WELL EQUIPPED.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT TOOLS AND A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN USE AND WE CAN CHOOSE TO USE IT AND CAN CHOOSE NOT TO USE IT.

ALSO, I'D LIKE THE CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE, ESPECIALLY AROUND CONCRETE GOALS AND OUR PRIORITIES.

THAT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE HAVE THE GUARDRAILS ARE SUPER IMPORTANT, BUT THAT WE HAVE CONCRETE, SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT WE CAN GET

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REPORTS ON AND WE CAN REPORT TO OUR FOLKS ABOUT.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH YOUR PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE SET FOR YOU.

WE ARE ACHIEVING THOSE THINGS, BUT MAINLY I FEEL WELL EQUIPPED.

I THINK WE'VE GOT THE TOOLS TO WORK WELL TOGETHER AS A GROUP.

THANK YOU, JESSE.

I'M JUST ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT CONSENSUS BUILDING, ESPECIALLY AROUND YOUR PRIORITIES AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO INFORM OUR BUDGET NEXT YEAR.

WE SKIP TONY.

HI, TONY. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING PARTING THOUGHT, NOT PARTING SHOTS.

PARTING SHOTS? WHY DID YOU TELL HIM THAT? I'LL JUST SAY I.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK I CAN SAY THIS ABOUT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN OPEN TO MEETING WITH STAFF OR SHOWING ME, MYSELF AND THE DMRC STAFF.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU JUST LISTENING.

AND ULTIMATELY, I VALUE EACH OF YOUR INTEGRITY TO TO, TO YOUR SEAT IN OFFICE AND JUST LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU. I ENJOY I LIKE THE DOGS.

I LIKE WHAT WE'RE GOING I LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF CREATIVE IDEAS.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE FUN TO WORK THROUGH HOW TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW? AWESOME.

BRIAN I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK WE DID HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR AIRING.

I HAVE TO SAY, I REALLY GOT THE MOST OUT OF THE LAST SORT OF HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF.

AND SO I WOULD WELCOME US ALL SHARING OUR HOUR.

WE HAVE MORE THAN JUST 12.

I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE LIKE A DOZEN PRIORITIES EACH.

AND I ACTUALLY WOULD WELCOME THAT BECAUSE I BET THERE'S A LOT MORE SYNERGIES AND I THINK WE COULD MEET MORE REGULARLY AND DEVELOP THAT AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE SYNERGY PARTY.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE THIS FORMAL.

I THINK I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, SORT OF THE LAST HOUR WAS SORT OF THE THE BEST PART OF THE EVENT.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I AM.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK KIND OF LIKE THE JUDGE IS.

GOOD TO HEAR WHERE YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AND KIND OF THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT MORE SO THAT I CAN THINK ABOUT THEM, TOO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHRIS.

I WOULD ECHO ALMOST ALL OF THE SENTIMENTS.

I THINK FOR ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART HASN'T BEEN NECESSARILY THE EXERCISE.

WE CAN GET TO THIS STUFF.

I MEAN, WE CAN GET TO THIS STUFF, THE PRIORITIES AND THE.

I THINK FOR ME, IT WAS IMPORTANT, AS MANY OF YOU I DON'T KNOW PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I'VE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH YOU.

I'VE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR YOUR PERSPECTIVES AND TO HEAR YOUR PRIORITIES AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN MOST BENEFICIAL TO ME.

AND I THINK THE MARK OF A GOOD ORGANIZATION, WE CAN WE CAN DO THESE KIND OF THINGS.

BUT I TRUST THE PROCESS AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD, WHICH SOME OF THEM WERE TOUGH, TOUGH CONVERSATIONS.

BUT THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. AND I THINK IT SHOWED THE MARK OF THIS ORGANIZATION THAT PEOPLE CAN EXPRESS THEMSELVES WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND PEOPLE CAN HEAR IT AND TAKE IT IN IN THAT WAY. AND IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, NONE OF THESE THINGS ON THESE BOARDS ARE GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

BUT BECAUSE WE CAN DO THAT, THAT GIVES ME MUCH MORE CONFIDENCE IN WHATEVER HAPPENS.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE ALL CARE ABOUT BECAUSE WE ALL DO CARE ABOUT DID WE CARE ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR DENTON? AND WE HAVE SO MUCH, PROBABLY MORE IN COMMON THAN WE HAVE DIFFERENCES.

SO I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE MOST BENEFICIAL TO ME.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

I THOUGHT IT WAS CERTAINLY ENCOURAGING AS WE AS WE HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS THIS MORNING TO HEAR THE COMMON PRINCIPLES THAT I THINK THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAD KIND OF REFERRED TO AS A STARTING POINT.

BUT I THINK AS WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THOSE ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT AMONGST THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STARTING POINT FOR THE RELATIONSHIP AND WORKING AS A TEAM MOVING FORWARD.

OBVIOUSLY GETTING TO THIS POINT WHERE WE HAVE SOME OF THESE CONCRETE THINGS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IS EXCITING, THAT WE CAN START PUTTING ACTION PLANS AND WORK PLANS AND REPORTING ON THEM. SO READY TO GET GOING ON THEM.

VICKI I STARTED MY CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH TALKING ABOUT REALISTIC GOALS.

I THINK I USE THE TERM BEING REALLY REAL ABOUT WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE.

I THINK THAT THE PROCESS THAT YOU TOOK US THROUGH TO HELP US COME TO SOME SOME REAL, ACHIEVABLE GOALS.

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AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

SO WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO HAPPEN, I THINK THAT IF WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, THEN IT WILL HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. AND SARAH, I'M FEELING HOPEFUL, SO I WOULD SAY HOPEFUL AND I THINK.

I'VE SAID THIS TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE NOT TOO LONG AGO, THAT IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING PHENOMENA WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW SOMEONE.

IT'S LIKE A TELEPHONE.

WHEN YOU HAD A TELEPHONE, IT WAS EASIER TO TELL SOMEONE.

NO. IT'S EASY TO TELL SOMEONE NO IN A TEXT.

IT'S EASY TO TELL SOMEONE, THOUGH, WHEN YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THEM, WHEN YOU'RE IN A ROOM AND THE GROUP DYNAMICS OCCUR AND YOU HAVE TO DO THE STORMING, THE FORMING AND THE NORMING. WE'RE THROUGH THE STORMING PART.

I THINK WE'RE NOW INTO A FORMING.

AND POSSIBLY NORMING DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO LIKE EACH OTHER'S IDEAS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE AGREEABLE.

BUT WHAT IT DOES MEAN IS THAT YOU CAN SEE IT THROUGH THE LENS OF WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GO AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY.

DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT, BUT YOU'RE HEARING AND TRULY LISTENING.

I THINK THAT HAPPENED TODAY.

WE HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME REALLY STORMING TO GET THERE.

BUT FROM A CITY MANAGER PERSPECTIVE, I RESPECT EVERY ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN HERE AND THEY ALL HAVE SO MUCH TO OFFER.

THIS ORGANIZATION.

AND MY HOPE AND IT'S HOPEFUL THAT I THINK WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO I'LL BE PADDLING THE BOAT IN THE SAME DIRECTION, BUT STILL MAYBE NOT NOT ALWAYS AGREEING ON WHERE WE'RE GOING, BUT JUST A MECHANISM TO GET SOMEWHERE.

AND SO I'M HOPEFUL.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME BEING SO BOSSY TODAY AND WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I WOULD I WANT TO BE HOPEFUL FOR YOU, TOO, AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN GO FORWARD AND DEVELOP SOME TRUST AND THINK ABOUT, AS JOHN SAID YESTERDAY, WHAT'S THE VALUE IN NOT TRUSTING AND WHAT CAN WE ACHIEVE TOGETHER IF WE CAN TRUST ONE ANOTHER? SO I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK AND ENJOY THE 9 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE I'VE JUST GOT THANKS TO JULIE.

YEAH, WHICH IS GREAT.

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH THESE.

I MEAN, I'M GOING TO GET THEM.

OKAY, GOOD, GOOD.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO. I'M GOING TO FRAME THEM AND I'M GOING TO HANG THEM AND SEE HOW THEY WORK SO WE DON'T FORGET IT.

AND IT'S JUST A WORK OF ART ON EVERYTHING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. AND TAKE SOME FOOD, PLEASE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.