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WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

[WORK SESSION]

TODAY IS TUESDAY, JUNE 28, 2022.

IT IS 2:01 P.M.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

AND THE FIRST THING ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS QUESTIONS FROM ON AN ON THE CONTENT AGENDA FROM THE PUBLIC OR ANYTHING.

I ASSUME WE HAVE NONE BUT WANT TO JUST DOUBLE CHECK.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND I'M GOING TO PIVOT A BIT BEFORE I CALL THE FIRST WORK SESSION AND JUST MENTION THAT THAT MY SINCERE THOUGHTS PRAYERS ARE WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS A PROCESS THROUGH THAT THE ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING THERE AND THE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION WHERE THEY FOUND THOSE PEOPLE DECEASED IN THERE, THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

AND I PRAY FOR THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED IN ANY PHASE.

I HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET THE MAYOR OF SAN ANTONIO AT OUR LAST MAYOR'S CONFERENCE.

AND AND SO I WANT TO LET HIM KNOW HE'S TOP OF MIND IN HIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THOSE FAMILIES AFFECTED.

THAT TAKES US TO QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FROM FROM COUNCIL ANYONE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF CONSENT.

AND BEFORE AS WE DID BEFORE, I'M GOING TO WORK THE ROOM AND THEN WE'LL WORK OUR WAY OUT TO THOSE THAT ARE REMOTE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A THING, BUT JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN FLOW ORDERLY IN THE ROOM AND IN THAT WAY TO KEEP ME TO MAKE IT FLOW BETTER FOR ME TO KEEP TRACK OF EVERYTHING. SO THAT BEING SAID, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

SEE NONE. IN THE ROOM.

ANYONE? GREAT.

SO WE'LL TAKE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS TAKES US TO WORK SESSION.

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the FY 2022-23 Capital Improvement Program. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 3 hours]]

FIRST ITEM ID TWO, TWO, TWO, FOUR, SIX.

RECEIVE REPORT HOLD DISCUSSION GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE FY 2020 223 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL. CASSIE OGDEN, CFO.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE OUR FINANCE STAFF, ALONG WITH ALL OF OUR OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS AND DIRECTORS FOR THE GIGANTIC EFFORT THAT HAS BEEN PUTTING THIS CAPITAL BUDGET TOGETHER.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT JUST REALLY WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, I HAVE MATT HAMILTON HERE.

HE IS OUR FINANCIAL ANALYST SUPERVISOR.

AND HIS SOLE JOB THIS YEAR HAS BEEN TO PUT THIS CAPITAL BUDGET TOGETHER.

AND HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB ALONG WITH NICK, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

AND THEN DANIELLE IS NOT HERE, BUT SHE'S OUR BUDGET, OUR INTERIM BUDGET MANAGER RIGHT NOW.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORT THAT'S GONE INTO IT.

AND WE'LL GET STARTED.

SO JUST BRIEFLY, THIS IS KIND OF THE AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON'S PRESENTATION.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO HOW WE PUT THIS BUDGET TOGETHER.

WE WILL DISCUSS THE UTILITY FUNDS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDS.

WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAMS AND THEN TALK ABOUT EACH DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO THE PRELIMINARY DEBT RATE AND OUR FORECAST AND THEN TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL FUTURE BOND ELECTION.

SO I ALLUDED TO IT A MINUTE AGO, BUT THIS HAS BEEN WE DID OUR CIP BUDGET KICK OFF WITH THE DEPARTMENTS IN DECEMBER.

SO FINANCE MET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, DID A KICK OFF OF, HEY, THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FROM YOU TO PUT A BUDGET TOGETHER INTERNALLY.

WE HAD MET BEFORE THAT.

SO THIS REALLY IS A YEAR ROUND PROCESS.

IT'S NOT JUST DURING THE SUMMER.

AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT STARTED WORKING ON THEIR PLANS.

WE DID A CALL FOR PROJECTS SO EVERYTHING THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY NEED OR WANT, WE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE THAT TO US.

WE STARTED REVIEWING THOSE PROJECTS IN JANUARY AND THEN WE REVIEWED ALL OF THEIR FINAL SUBMISSIONS IN FEBRUARY.

WE WE REALLY WANTED THIS CAPITAL BUDGET TO FOCUS ON THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE AS WE GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO FOCUS ON GIVING YOU A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

IN MARCH AND APRIL, WE DID A LOT OF BUDGET MEETINGS TO REVIEW THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND THEN ALSO HOW THEY ROLLED UP TO THE THE TOTAL CIP BUDGET.

AND HERE WE ARE IN JUNE PROVIDING YOU THE PRELIMINARY CAPITAL BUDGET TO REVIEW.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES AS WE GO THROUGH THE SUMMER AND WE GET TO THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP IN AUGUST.

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AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THE FINAL CIP BUDGET FOR YOU TO ADOPT IN SEPTEMBER.

SO JUST FOR TO BEGIN, WHY DO WE HAVE A CAPITAL BUDGET BOOK? SO IN PREVIOUS YEARS YOU MAY HAVE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET BOOK, OUR CURRENT VIP SECTION IS 14 PAGES LONG.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF STORY TO TELL IN 14 PAGES.

SO WE REALLY WANTED TO PROVIDE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK OF EVERYTHING THE CITY IS DOING WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES TO CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND SO THE CURRENT SIP BOOK IS 175 PAGES LONG.

SO WE DO HAVE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE, DETAIL ORIENTED BOOK, BUT IT'S REALLY GIVES US A PLAN TO FOCUS ON.

IT GIVES US A WAY TO INCORPORATE ALL OF YOUR PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR FOR THE YEAR AND FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN IT ALSO HELPS US TO BRING ALL OF THOSE PLANS THAT WE'VE RECENTLY COMPLETED THE MOBILITY PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE MARKS, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN INTO ONE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO WALK THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.

AND SO IT ALSO SETS THOSE EXPECTATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAFF TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT OF US AND WHAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT AS DENTON GROWS THAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR THAT GROWTH.

AND SO I HOPE THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU A DOCUMENT THAT REALLY SHOWS THAT.

SO JUST THE STRUCTURE REALLY QUICKLY.

AND AS PART OF YOUR BACKUP, YOU DO HAVE THE FULL BUDGET BOOK OR CAPITAL BUDGET BOOK.

WE'VE TRIED TO PROVIDE KIND OF AN INTRODUCTORY SECTION, SOME SUMMARY PAGES, AND THEN EACH DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

AND WE DO REFERENCE THE PAGE NUMBERS SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE ELECTRONIC BUDGET BOOK WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, YOU CAN EASILY FIND THOSE.

THEY SHOULD BE NOTED AT THE TOP OF EACH SLIDE.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GET INTO THE UTILITY AND ENTERPRISE SUMMARY.

SO THIS THE UTILITIES CAPITAL PROJECTS WERE PRESENTED TO PV ON JUNE 13 AND JUNE 27.

AND SO THIS IS THEY HAVE ALREADY REVIEWED THESE AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW THEM BEFORE THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU FOR ADOPTION.

SO JUST A FIVE YEAR QUICK SUMMARY.

SO THIS IS OUR EXPENDITURES ARE ON THE TOP PORTION OF THE SLIDE AND THEN THE FUNDING TYPE ARE AT THE BOTTOM.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSISTENT AS WE WALK THROUGH THE THE PRESENTATION TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR.

SO ELECTRIC LAST YEAR, YOU SEE THE TOTAL OF 235 MILLION.

AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THIS SLIDE IS IN THOUSANDS.

SO THAT'S NOT NOTED ON THE SLIDE, BUT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.

THE FIVE YEAR TOTAL FOR ELECTRIC THIS CURRENT YEAR FOR FY 22 FOR THE FIVE YEARS WAS 215 MILLION.

SO WE ARE INCREASING SLIGHTLY TO 235 MILLION AND WE'LL DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO THOSE PROJECTS IN A MINUTE.

WATER WHAT THE CURRENT YEAR, FIVE YEAR SIP WAS 176 MILLION.

SO THAT'S A $46 MILLION INCREASE FOR WATER AND THAT'S RELATED TO GROWTH AND REPLACEMENT OF ASSETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

WASTE WATER IN THE CURRENT BUDGET WAS $201 MILLION, SO AN INCREASE OF 37 AND A HALF MILLION AND THEN SOLID WASTE.

THEIR CURRENT FY 22 FIVE YEAR SIP WAS 42.8 MILLION AND CURRENTLY 52.7 MILLION.

SO AN INCREASE OF 9.8 MILLION.

YOU'LL SEE WE SHOW THE DIFFERENT FUNDING TYPES.

SO WE DO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR OUR UTILITY PROJECTS.

THOSE THOSE BONDS DO NOT REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL, BUT THEY ARE LIMITATIONS BY STATE LAW.

AND WHAT WE CAN ISSUE CEOS FOR REVENUE FUNDED CAPITAL IS IT'S JUST WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

WE USE RATE REVENUE AND WE WE FUND THOSE PROJECTS WITH CASH.

ESSENTIALLY, COST PARTICIPATION INCLUDES AID AND CONSTRUCTION.

SO DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS ALONG WITH REIMBURSEMENTS.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME TEXTILE REIMBURSEMENT PROJECTS.

SO WE'VE TRIED TO INCLUDE THAT PLAN FOR THAT FUNDING IN ADVANCE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND AND OUR IMPACT FEE FUNDING.

SO YOU MAY KNOW WE HAVE IMPACT FEE STUDIES THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO EVERY FIVE YEARS.

IT IDENTIFIES PROJECTS THAT WE CAN PUT THOSE IMPACT FEES TOWARDS.

AND SO THIS CONTEMPLATES THE AT THE CURRENT FEES USING THESE FUNDING FOR PARTICULAR FOR THOSE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

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WE ARE GOING THROUGH A NEW OR STARTING A NEW IMPACT FEE STUDY FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

SO THOSE FEES MAY CHANGE, BUT THIS IS OUR CURRENT PLAN RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M GOING TO GET INTO THE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THOSE UTILITIES NOW.

AND JUST FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M GOING TO STOP FOR QUESTIONS AT EACH SECTION SO THE DIRECTORS CAN COME ANSWER ANY OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, OR I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END TO ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS.

SO JUST FOR REFERENCE, THE THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, THAT $2 MILLION AND THE DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATIONS, WE REALLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WITHIN THE ELECTRIC CIP.

SO THOSE THOSE FUNDING, THOSE EXPENSES, THEY REALLY REFERENCE THE FIRST YEAR.

SO THE FY 23 AMOUNT.

SO IF YOU FLIP TO THE SUMMARY, THAT'S JUST WHAT'S IN THAT CATEGORY.

IN FY 23, THERE'S A DIFFERENT FIVE YEAR TOTAL, BUT REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FIRST YEAR.

SO WITH THAT, THE TOTAL CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS IS 81.72 MILLION FOR ELECTRIC.

YOU CAN SEE THE CO DEBT ISSUANCE, 74.96.

AND THEN THAT 1.15 MILLION TRANSFER FROM OPERATING IS THAT CASH FUNDING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

AND THEN THE 4.4 MILLION, OF COURSE, PARTICIPATION IS REALLY REIMBURSEMENT RELATED TO TECH START.

AND THEN WHAT I DIDN'T LIST IS THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND.

SO BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, THAT IS $2 MILLION IN THE FIRST YEAR.

SO IN FY 23 TO BUILD A BACKUP DATA CENTER.

THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION DM'S WORKING WITH FACILITIES AND TECH SERVICES TO IDENTIFY THE BEST LOCATION FOR THAT.

THE TOTAL PROJECT YOU'LL SEE IN THE CIP IS $10 MILLION.

SO IT'S 2 MILLION IN THE FIRST YEAR.

8 MILLION IN THE NEXT YEAR FOR ACTUAL BUILDING OR CONSTRUCTION.

THE DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATION JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY.

AGAIN, THE 10.8 IS THE THE TOTAL FOR FY 23.

THE FIVE YEAR TOTAL IS 25.5 MILLION.

SO SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS, HICKORY SUBSTATION, THE TOTAL FOR THAT PROJECT IN THE FIVE YEARS IS 3.25 MILLION. UNDERWOOD STATION SUBSTATION IS A NEW SUBSTATION, SO THE TOTAL FOR THE FIVE YEARS IS 6 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN THE ARCOS SUBSTATION INCLUDES UPDATES TO THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT AND AT THAT STUB SUBSTATION.

EXCUSE ME. SO FEEDER EXTENSION AND IMPROVEMENTS, $12.6 MILLION IS PLANNED FOR FY 23 RIGHT NOW FOR THE FIVE YEAR TOTAL, THAT'S 31.5 MILLION IN THAT CATEGORY.

SO THEY HAVE A PULL CHANGE OUT PROGRAM.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON REALLY EVALUATING THE WOODEN POLES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND CHANGING THOSE OUT THAT THAT'S A CONTINUATION OF EXISTING PROJECTS. SO $6 MILLION PROGRAM FOR THE TOTAL FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN THIS UNT EXPRESS FEEDER FROM LOCUS SUBSTATION IS A IS IN THE FINAL YEAR OF THE PROJECT.

THE NEW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL REALLY GOES TO NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE COMING IN.

SO THEY HAVE A WAY TO TO FUND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT COMES IN.

SO THAT'S 5 MILLION FOR FY 23 NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

THEY PUT IN ABOUT $3 MILLION ANNUALLY FOR ANYTHING THAT COMES UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE THE HUNTER COAL RANCH LINE EXTENSION.

IT'S $7 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN THE ENERGY CENTER WINTERIZATION PROJECT CURRENTLY HAVE 2.2 MILLION SCHEDULED FOR FUNDING IN FY 23.

AND THAT'S REALLY TO IMPROVE THE FREEZE PROTECTION FOR THE DECK.

AND THE AUTOMATED METER READING IS AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

THE ELECTRIC RELOCATIONS ARE KIND OF WHAT I TALKED ABOUT THAT COST PARTICIPATION.

THESE ARE TECH START RELOCATIONS AND THEN ALSO RELOCATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED.

SO THE HICKORY CREEK ROAD, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE RELOCATION OF ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THEY'RE PLANNING FOR THAT.

BONNIE BRAE, MAYHILL, ALL OF THOSE CITYWIDE KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

TRANSMISSION LINES. SO THE CATEGORY WE HAVE 10.9 MILLION IN FY 23.

THAT HICKORY TO LOCUST TRANSMISSION TRANSMISSION LINE IS THE RECONSTRUCTION OF TWO AND ONE HALF MILES OF EXISTING TRANSMISSION LINES.

SO THE TOTAL PROJECT IS 4.7 MILLION.

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AND THEN THE HICKORY SUBSTATION TIE IN IS JUST A RECONSTRUCTION OF THAT TION FOR THAT SUBSTATION.

ITS TRANSMISSION SUBSTATION IS 17.3 AND FI 23.

SO REALLY THE FIVE YEAR TOTAL IS 49.8 MILLION AND THE HICKORY GAS INSULATED SUBSTATION, OBVIOUSLY A NEW SUBSTATION.

THAT TOTAL PROJECT IN THE FIVE YEARS IS 20.2 MILLION, BUT THAT FIRST YEAR IS JUST FOR THE INITIAL THE INITIAL PROJECT.

SO UNDERWOOD SUBSTATION THIS IS FOR NEW SUBSTATION FOR RELIABILITY TO HUNTER COAL RANCH AND THEN TECHNOLOGY SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE. DMS CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT HOW THEY MANAGE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE MORE EFFECTIVELY.

SO THAT DMG WORK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS REALLY TO ASSIST WITH PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

IT'S KIND OF A MANUAL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT A MORE AUTOMATED SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS STREET LIGHTING.

THIS IS AN ANNUAL PROJECT THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO.

IT'S ABOUT 500,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE ADDITION AND REPLACEMENT LIGHTING.

AND THEN THE THE CONVERSION IS ABOUT 3 MILLION ANNUALLY.

SO WITH THAT, YOU CAN SEE THE ELECTRIC SUMMARY.

SO $81.7 MILLION SCHEDULED FOR FY 23, WHICH THE TOTAL OF 235 MILLION FOR THE TOTAL FIVE YEARS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A PLAN.

SO WE DO UPDATE THESE CIP BUDGETS ANNUALLY.

SO WHILE WE'RE PLANNING, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN 23.

THIS IS A PLAN FOR 24 THROUGH 27 AND IT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.

DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I'LL JUST JUMP IN.

EACH OF THE UTILITY FUNDS THAT YOU SEE AT THE NEXT MEETING IN JULY, YOU'LL BE PRESENTING THE ENTIRE UTILITY FUND BUDGET OR THEIR OPERATING BUDGETS, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST. SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DIG INTO THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND GET THOSE QUESTIONS ASKED.

BUT A NATURAL QUESTION MAY BE, HOW DOES THIS LOOK IN CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE FUND? AND YOU'LL BE GETTING THAT PICTURE NEXT NEXT MEETING.

AND WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR ELECTRIC.

SO I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING ELECTRIC PROJECTS.

QUESTIONS ON ELECTRIC COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WITHOUT GETTING KIND OF TOO DEEP INTO THE OPERATIONAL SIDE.

CAN YOU GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATION AND THAT PROJECT, THAT AMOUNT? AND THEN WE HAVE TRANSMISSION SUBSTATION.

THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS, BUT WE HAVE HICKORY AND UNDERWOOD LISTED UNDER BOTH.

WE HAVE SOME OTHER TRANSMISSION STUFF GOING ON.

BUT THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION FOR THE SUBSTATIONS.

CAN WE UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S AN AMOUNT LISTED FOR DISTRIBUTION AND FOR TRANSMISSION FOR BOTH HICKORY AND UNDERWOOD? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I WILL DEFER TO TONY IF HE'S OUT THERE SOMEWHERE LISTENING.

BUT REALLY, I THINK WE GROUP THESE BY THE TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT IS.

SO REALLY THE TRANSMISSION COMPONENT BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO RECEIVE COST REVENUE FROM THAT.

AND THEN THE DISTRIBUTION IS JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DISTRIBUTION NETWORK.

JERRY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY QUESTION IS GOING IS, IS HOW THAT'S DIVIDED UP AND WHAT THOSE TWO DIFFERENT WHY WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, JERRY.

I'M THE ENGINEERING DIVISION MANAGER FOR DME.

IF I UNDERSTOOD, OUR RESPONSE IS PROBABLY CORRECT.

WE DO HAVE TO SEPARATE IT BETWEEN DISTRIBUTION AND TRANSMISSION.

TRANSMISSION IS TX COST REIMBURSABLE TO US? AND SO THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF KEEP UP WITH IT FROM THE ACCOUNTING SIDE.

SO IF IT GOES IN THE TRANSMISSION, WE GET TT COST BACK ON IT.

IF IT'S DISTRIBUTION, IT'S NOT.

SO I GUESS JUST TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SUBSTATION IS.

BRINGING IN ELECTRICITY AND DISTRIBUTING IT OUT FROM THE HIGHER VOLTAGE TRANSMISSION LINES TO THE LOWER LOWER VOLTAGE RESIDENTIAL LINES OR THE DISTRIBUTION LINES.

ARE WE ARE WE JUST BOOKING THOSE TWO SIDES OF THE PROJECT, THOSE TWO PARTS OF THE SUBSTATION DIFFERENTLY FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES, OR ARE THEY TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT JUST HAPPEN TO BE AT THE SAME SUBSTATION? IT'S ONE PROJECT THAT TYPICALLY, ONCE IT GOES PAST THE SUBSTATION WALL IS PURELY DISTRIBUTION.

SO EVERYTHING BEHIND THE SUBSTATION WALL, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO SPLIT IT OUT BETWEEN THE DEALS.

AND THERE ARE SOME, I GUESS, INDUSTRY LOGIC ABOUT WHERE THAT BREAKS.

AND SO LIKE THE TRANSMISSION LINES, SUBSTATION, TRANSFORMERS BREAKERS, THAT'S ALL TRANSMISSION COST.

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BUT ONCE IT GOES FROM THE BREAKER AND STARTS LEAVING THE SUBSTATION, THAT BECOMES THE DISTRIBUTION COST.

AND THEN ONCE IT GETS FULLY PAST THE SUBSTATION WALL, IT BECOMES 100% DISTRIBUTION AND NOT COST REIMBURSABLE.

NO, IT'S NOT. I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ADVANCED EXCUSE ME, THE AUTOMATED METER READING.

IT'S PRESENTED AS AN ANNUAL EXPENSE IS AND I UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE A CAPITAL EXPENSE, THE MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

IS THIS A NUMBER THAT WE EXPECT TO.

TO CLIMB, OR IS IT A NUMBER THAT WE EXPECT TO KIND OF LEVEL OUT? IS IT JUST TIED TO GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF NEW METERS GOING IN OR IS THIS THE MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT ASPECT OF IT? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE EXPECT TO.

TO KIND OF TAPER OFF MAINTENANCE AND MAINTENANCE AND NEW METERS.

DEFINITELY, YES. BUT I BELIEVE THIS YEAR THERE'S SOME EXTRA MONEY IN THERE TO DO AN UPGRADE ON THE EXISTING SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE SEEN.

THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WAS WONDERING.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, WHAT KIND OF UPGRADE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? NOW YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY BAILIWICK, BUT BASICALLY THE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE HAS GOT SOME UPGRADES THAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE SO IT CAN WORK WITH THE OTHER SYSTEMS, CAN WORK WITH, I GUESS, OUR OMS SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE THAT KIND OF TIE INTO THE SYSTEM.

AND SO THIS UPGRADE WILL ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN MORE, I GUESS LOGICALLY AND EASE OF PASSING BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT SOFTWARES, THE INFORMATION, ARE WE ARE WE NEEDING TO REPLACE MOST PEOPLE'S ACTUAL PHYSICAL METER THEN ARE THOSE GOING TO STAY FOR MOST PEOPLE STAY THE SAME, THE MAJORITY ARE GOING TO STAY THE SAME.

I MEAN, WE HAVE NEW METERS, OF COURSE.

THEN WE HAVE METERS THAT GO BAD THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

SO THIS ISN'T A REPLACEMENT OF METERS, IT'S MAINLY JUST DOING THE MAINTENANCE AND PUTTING IN NEW METERS AND THEN THE SOFTWARE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPGRADE.

THANK YOU. MY LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT BACKUP DATA CENTER.

AND THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD RATHER REPORT BACK AT A AT A LATER TIME, BUT MY QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ENTITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MAY NEED TO DO THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY OR HAVE THIS PARTICULAR NEED.

AND I SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON LAND PURCHASE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE AT A LATER TIME, NOT A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT PROJECT TODAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE AT A LATER TIME WHAT KIND OF COST CONTROL WE'RE DOING BY EXPLORING PARTNERSHIPS AND GETTING TOGETHER WITH SOME OTHER GROUPS THAT MIGHT NEED THE SAME THING.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE JUST BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE TECH SERVICES AND WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT ANY PAST THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT'S AN IDEAL THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO.

SURE. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN A ROOM? OH, CUSTOMER, WHAT'S.

SURE. JUST JUST A COUPLE ON JUST FOR MY OWN TO CATCH UP REVENUE FUNDED CAPITAL.

IS THAT REFERRING TO CAPITAL THAT'S FUNDED WITH REVENUE BONDS? WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO HAVE. NO, THAT IS NOT REVENUE BONDS.

IT'S RATE REVENUE.

NO, THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD SORT OF MOVED AWAY FROM THOSE.

THEN THE SECOND ONE IS ON THE STREET.

LIGHT REPLACEMENT FROM HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM TO LED, I BELIEVE.

YES. HOW FAR ARE WE? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE HAVE WE GOTTEN CHANGED OUT TO DATE? I WOULD THINK THAT THAT EVENTUALLY THAT NUMBER WOULD EITHER DECLINE OR BECOME MUCH SMALLER AS WE GET CLOSER TO CONVERTING THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

YES, SIR. WE ARE WELL OVER TWO THIRDS THROUGH THAT, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT NEXT YEAR WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST YEAR OF THE FORMAL CONVERSION RATE.

AND THE LAST ONE IS THE WE'VE GOT RELOCATION ELECTRIC RELOCATION EXPENSE OF 6.5 MILLION.

IS THAT RELOCATION THAT WE'RE DOING ON OUR OWN OR IS THIS REQUIRED BY TEX DOT OR REQUIRED? IN OTHER WORDS, IS ANY OF THIS GETTING PAID FOR BY EITHER SOMEONE WHO'S REQUESTED IT OR DEVELOPER OR TEX DOT? AND IF SO, IS THAT REFLECTED SOMEWHERE IN.

SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH AND IT IS REFLECTED IN THE SUMMARY AS CROSS PARTICIPATION.

GOTCHA. WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THAT EXPENSE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO NOTE IT AS A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM.

GREAT. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. SURE.

THAT'S ALL, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CNN.

OK MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I HAD EXTREMELY SIMILAR QUESTIONS TO COUNCILOR DAVIS.

SO I NOTICED IN ONE OF THE LATER ANNUAL BUDGET BOOK ITEMS THAT YOU'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DEAR UPDATES FOR BACKUP SYSTEMS.

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SO THIS THIS IS ENTIRELY SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR DAVIS'S QUESTIONS ABOUT SYNERGIES WITH OTHER GROUPS.

AND I'M ASKING IF ONE OF THOSE GROUPS IS OUR SELF DATA CENTER, AS THE DATA CENTER IS A DATA CENTER FOR TRADITIONAL DATA CENTER TO A LARGE DEGREE.

AND THAT IS WHAT I IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

COUNCILOR DAVIS IS TO TO LOOK FOR SYNERGIES.

DO WE HAVE SYNERGIES WITH OUR OWN DEER SYSTEMS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT? AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ON THIS QUESTION AFTER YOUR ANSWER.

YES, SIR. I THINK RIGHT NOW THE ONLY OTHER GROUP THAT WE'VE REALLY KIND OF BEEN IN GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH WAS THE TECH SERVICES FOLKS.

BUT THERE IS LOGIC THAT IF THIS BACKUP DATA CENTER IS BUILT, THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OTHER NEEDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE OVERALL.

BUT THERE'S ROOM TO HAVE OVERAGE FOR THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

OR IF WE HAVE STATE OR COMMERCIAL PARTNERS, WE'LL NEED OVERAGE FOR THAT.

AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ENCOURAGING US TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE TOTALITY OF THE BUDGET, BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS A LOT OF SYNERGY IN HVAC AND ELECTRICAL NEEDS, CERTAINLY.

THEN MY COMMENT ON THIS BEFORE I GO TO MY NEXT QUESTION IS JUST AN FYI.

I KNOW THAT THAT I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT YOU AND IS USING.

AND NOW THAT WE'RE THERE, THEY'RE GOING WHOLESALE WITH MY CURRENT EMPLOYER TECH FOR THEIR HIGH PERFORMANCE COMPUTING.

BUT JUST AS IN FREE TO STAFF, THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THEM.

BUT ALSO WHEN WE GET THIS GOING FORWARD AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A VOTE ON IT, I MIGHT NEED TO REFUSE.

AND DEPENDING ON EXACTLY WHAT WE DO, I THINK WE'RE FAR ENOUGH AWAY THAT I DON'T HAVE TO.

AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS AGAIN, SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR DAVIS'S QUESTION ON DISTRIBUTION VERSUS TRANSMISSION, BUT THIS THIS GOES TO THE WINTERIZATION COMPONENT.

I KNOW IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WINTERIZATION PRIMARILY THE DECK.

AND IT'S WHAT ARE WE? DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEMS FOR WINTERIZATION OF EITHER OUR DISTRIBUTION OR TRANSMISSION CAPACITY IN THIS BUDGET? NO, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS THROUGH URI THAT BOTH THE TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION USE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS CAME THROUGH IT PRETTY WELL.

TRANSMISSION. WE SAW NO ISSUES AT ALL.

AND DISTRIBUTION, THE ISSUES THAT WE SAW WERE VERY MINOR AND WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THOSE AND ADDRESS THOSE.

AND SO THOSE WILL BE COVERED IN SORT OF JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE.

YES. YES, SIR. YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO WATER.

SO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE WATER SIP WE ARE REQUESTING SO NEW CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS A TOTAL OF 54.3 MILLION IN IN FY 23.

AND OF THAT, THAT'S THE OCO DEBT ISSUANCE IS 31 MILLION.

THE THE TRANSFER FROM OPERATING IS THAT RATE REVENUE, THE CASH THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING SPENDING AND THEN THE 6.2 MILLION IS IN COST PARTICIPATION IS REIMBURSEMENTS AND DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS.

WHAT'S NOT LISTED IS IMPACT FEE FUNDED, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU ON A SUMMARY SLIDE AND THEN THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND.

SO MAJOR PROJECTS IN THE WATER SIP ARE LINE REPLACEMENTS.

THIS DOES INCLUDE $11 MILLION IN FY 23 TO CONTINUE THE 2019 NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD PACKAGE.

SO REALLY FOCUSING ON THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE STREET PROJECTS.

THE TOTAL FIVE YEAR FOR THAT PROJECT TO CONTINUE IS 37 MILLION IN THE SIP, AND THEN A CONTINUATION OF A PROJECT FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, THE LEAD COPPER RULE, COMPLIANCE AND REMEDIATION.

SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION OF $1,000,000 FOR BOTH COMPLIANCE AND REMEDIATION.

SO 2 MILLION, 2 MILLION ANNUALLY.

AND SO.

IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT, STEVEN IS HERE TO ANSWER THAT.

BUT IT'S IT'S PART OF A FEDERAL MANDATE THAT CAME DOWN ASSOCIATED WITH LETTING COPPER.

FOR TRANSMISSION. SO THE THE NORTHWEST TRANSMISSION LINE AND BOOSTER PUMP STATION IS REALLY IS INTENDED TO EXPAND THE CAPACITY AT THE RINEY ROAD STATION.

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SO THAT PROJECT IS $7 MILLION OF THAT TOTAL.

TRANSMISSION LINE.

AND PLANT IMPROVEMENTS.

QUITE, QUITE A FEW PROJECTS PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR FOR PLANT IMPROVEMENTS.

YOU CAN SEE THE 14.7 IS THE FY 23 TOTAL, BUT $41 MILLION IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR PLANT IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT FIRST BULLET, THE CAPACITY RATE AND PERFORMANCE UPGRADES IS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AT RAY ROBERTS PLANT.

SO OUR PRODUCTION PLANT, IT'S $24 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT IN TOTAL, BUT 8 MILLION IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND THEN THE RAY ROBERTS TREATMENT PLANT DISINFECTION CONVERSION IS TO MATCH THE CURRENT DISINFECTION METHOD AT THE LAKE LEWISVILLE PLANT. AND THEN THE ANNUAL FIELD SERVICE REPLACEMENT REPLACEMENT.

THIS IS ABOUT $3 MILLION THAT WE CONTRIBUTE ANNUALLY TO REPLACE WATER LINES THAT ARE IN COORDINATION WITH THE STREET REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND THEN TAPS HYDRANTS AND METERS, REALLY AN ANNUAL PROJECT THAT WE DEVOTE FOR INSTALLATION OF NEW TAPS AND FIRE HYDRANTS.

METERS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, JUST THE WATER SUMMARY OF EXPENSES AND FUNDING SOURCES.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL OF $223 MILLION FOR THE FIVE YEARS PLANNED.

THAT IS AN INCREASE.

THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET OF FIVE, FOUR, FIVE.

THE FIVE YEAR TOTAL WAS 176 MILLION.

REALLY TRYING TO.

INCREASE OUR REPLACEMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE WATER BUDGET AND THEN THE IMPACT FEE FUNDING.

YOU'LL NOTICE WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS PLUGGED IN FOR 24 THROUGH 27.

THAT'S BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING THAT NEW IMPACT FEE STUDY AND WE'LL UPDATE THOSE AS THAT STUDY IS COMPLETED.

SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE WATER PROJECTS.

OKAY. QUESTIONS ON WATER.

CUSTOMER DAVIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE, AGAIN, IF THIS IS SOMETHING BETTER FOR US TO BE BRIEFED ON LATER OR A FRIDAY REPORT, THAT'D BE FINE.

BUT ON THE LEAD AND COPPER PIPES, I WANT TO FIRST SAY IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING, OUR WATER IS REGULARLY TESTED, IS VERY HIGHLY REGULATED.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THRESHOLDS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET WITH THE STATE FOR THE QUALITY OF OUR WATER.

SO I'M NOT ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE ANY DOUBT ABOUT THE QUALITY OR THE SAFETY OF OUR WATER.

BUT WHENEVER YOU SAY THE WORDS LEAD AND COPPER PIPES ESPECIALLY, WE TALK ABOUT LEAD PIPES AND YOU SAY THAT THERE'S A FEDERAL MANDATE.

IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PARTICULAR PIPES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IF THERE'S FOLKS WHO NEED TO BE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT WITH THEIR WATER OR THE OPPOSITE.

IF EVERYBODY'S WATER IS JUST FINE, THIS IS A A A JUST IN CASE KIND OF MEASURE THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT SO I CAN PROPERLY ANSWER QUESTIONS WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REPLACING LEAD LEAD PIPES? HOW IS IT THE CITY OF HAS LEAD PIPES WITH WATER IN THEM? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT NOW, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO HEAR ABOUT IN A FRIDAY REPORT? SURE. STEVE IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

IF YOU WANT TO GET MORE DETAIL THAN OUR TIME ALLOWS, AND WE'LL ABSOLUTELY PROVIDE IT IN A FORMAL STAFF REPORT.

BUT I THINK HE CAN ANSWER THAT QUICKLY.

QUICKLY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

STEPHEN GAY DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES.

COUNCILOR DAVIES. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE THIS COMPLIANCE IS BASED OFF OF THE REVISION OF THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE, PART OF THE SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT, AND THAT WAS DRIVEN BY THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED IN FLINT, MICHIGAN. AND SO THERE'S REALLY THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT IN OUR WATER.

AS YOU SAID, WE TEST IT VERY REGULARLY.

WE'RE WELL BELOW THE WE CALL IT THE ACTION LEVEL FOR LEAD.

WHAT THIS PROJECT IS DOING IS THE NEW RULE REQUIRES US IF WE SHOULD HAVE AN EXCEEDANCE OF THE ACTION LEVEL, WE HAVE TO DO PUBLIC NOTIFICATION WITHIN 24 HOURS.

SO PART OF THIS, THIS MONEY IS TO DEVELOP THOSE MATERIALS, THAT COMMUNICATION.

AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BROADENED THEIR REACH A BIT FROM RESIDENTIAL TO INCLUDE DAYCARES AND SCHOOLS, AND IT'S ALSO TO DEVELOPMENT TO DEVELOP THE COMMUNICATION MATERIALS TO OUTREACH TO THOSE COMMUNITIES.

IN ADDITION, WE'LL BE DOING SURVEYS OF OUR SYSTEM TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE MAY HAVE LEAD LINES AND THEN DEVELOPING A STRATEGY TO REMOVE THOSE.

I KNOW THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING AHEAD.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING MATERIALS AND A PROGRAM.

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BUT AT WHAT POINT WILL RESIDENTS BE NOTIFIED IF THEY HAVE A LINE? LET'S SAY WE DO THE SURVEY.

ARE WE GOING TO WAIT A YEAR FOR THOSE CONSULTANTS SURVEY RESULTS OR ARE PEOPLE GOING TO FIND OUT PRETTY IMMEDIATELY? YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO'D RATHER HAVE A BRITA FILTER OR SOMETHING BEFORE YOU DRINK THE WATER.

GOOD QUESTION, COUNSELOR.

WE'LL NOTIFY THEM AS SOON AS REASONABLE.

BUT THE WAY THAT WE TREAT WATER, WE TREAT IT.

WE USE CORROSION CONTROL.

WE'RE PRETTY AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR CORROSION CONTROL.

AND IT CREATES A FILM ON THE INSIDE OF THE PIPE WHICH PREVENTS THOSE MATERIALS FROM LEACHING INTO THE DRINKING WATER.

AND OUR REGULAR TESTING, OUR THREE YEAR TESTING, AGAIN, SHOWS THAT WE HAVE RESULTS WELL BELOW THE ACTION LEVEL.

SO THERE'S THERE'S REALLY NO CONCERN WITH REGARDS TO THE QUALITY OF WATER.

ONCE WE IDENTIFY THE LEAD SERVICE LINES, WE WILL NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY AGAIN AS SOON AS REASONABLE.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS.

IT DOES. AND I APPRECIATE ESPECIALLY WHAT KIND OF THE TECHNICAL INFO YOU JUST GAVE US.

SO WE HAVE THAT TO SHARE WITH FOLKS.

BUT THEN ALSO HOW YOU FINISH THAT RESPONSE THAT THERE'S NOTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT IF THERE IF THERE'S SOMETHING PEOPLE OUGHT TO KNOW, THEY WILL BE MADE AWARE OF IT. YES, SIR.

AND THEN MY MY NEXT QUESTION.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND POSE IT JUST IN CASE IT'S A STEVEN QUESTION.

BUT IN FACT, IT'S LESS OF A QUESTION, MORE OF JUST PUTTING A PIN IN IT.

I'M VERY I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REMOTE METERS.

I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE STUDYING THEM.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, AS I HAVE EVERY TIME THAT IT COMES IN FRONT OF US, THAT I HAVE SOME VERY HEALTHY SKEPTICISM BECAUSE OF SOME EXPERIENCES OTHER CITIES HAVE HAD IN ROLLING OUT THESE REMOTE METERS.

THE VENDOR PROMISES WERE NOT KEPT, THE PRODUCTS WERE NOT WHAT THEY WERE, WHAT THEY'RE REPRESENTED TO BE.

AND I HAVE A LITTLE SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SMART METER FOR AN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM VERSUS A SMART METER FOR A A WATER SYSTEM.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STAFF IS AWARE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS IS FEASIBLE TO SHARE WITH US WHENEVER THAT COMES FORWARD.

ABSOLUTELY. AND COUNCILOR DAVIES, IN MY CAREER, I'VE DEPLOYED THREE OF THESE REMOTE METERING SYSTEMS, AND I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS.

THE STUDY THAT WE'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY TO IDENTIFY THE BEST IN BREED SOLUTION FOR OUR UTILITY AND NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT A VENDOR COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, THIS IS WE CAN DO THIS, WE CAN DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR MATERIALS, PUT THEM OUT IN THE FIELD, TEST THEM, AND LET OUR TEAMS PUT THEIR HANDS ON THEM AND UNDERSTAND HOW THESE SYSTEMS WORK. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER WALK.

REAL QUICK AND THIS WILL PROBABLY APPLY TO THE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

SO UNDER COST PARTICIPATION ON YOUR LINE ITEM IN THE END, THE THE BOOK, THE 175 PAGE BOOK IS THAT IS THAT ITEMIZED AS TO WHAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING OR IS IT STILL JUST AN AGGREGATE NUMBER? BECAUSE I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS MOVING OUT.

I'M ASSUMING IT'S BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS ARE ALL FLUID AND THESE ARE PROBABLY REAL TIME PROJECTS.

SO IT IS NOTED THE AMOUNT ON EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT DETAIL.

SO IF YOU READ THE PROJECT DETAIL, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE ANTICIPATING THOSE THOSE TO BE APPLIED.

OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CNN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO WASTEWATER.

SO AGAIN, CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS TOTAL 68.3 MILLION FOR FY 23.

WE'RE PROJECTING A CO DEBT ISSUANCE OF 40.9 MILLION CASH FROM OPERATING OF 4.8 MILLION AND THEN 20.6 MILLION IN CROSS PARTICIPATION.

AND I'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.

SORRY, MY SCREEN IS NOT.

THERE'S. SO LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS, 25.7 MILLION IN FY 23 IS PLANNED.

THE MILE CREEK WASTEWATER LINE AND LIFT STATION.

YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS COMING TO COUNCIL IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

THIS IS WE ARE ANTICIPATING WE ALREADY HAVE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION AND $8 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE ALSO ARE ANTICIPATING RECEIVING $7 MILLION FROM TECH SUPPORT.

SO THAT BRINGS THE CITY PORTION DOWN TO 6.7 MILLION OF THE TOTAL 22 MILLION ON THIS PROJECT.

SO THAT IS LISTED IN THE PROJECT DETAIL.

SO YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE THAT.

AND THEN WASTEWATER LINE REPLACEMENTS, JUST LIKE I TALKED ABOUT IN WATER TO CONTINUE THAT 2019 NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD PACKAGE.

TO USE BECKY'S WORD, LOOKING AT THE HOLISTIC PROJECT, WE'RE REPLACING THE WASTEWATER LINES AS WE DO THE ROAD.

SO THAT'S 29 MILLION IN THE FIVE YEARS TO CONTINUE THOSE THOSE PROJECTS.

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AND THEN THE SOLIDS HANDLING IMPROVEMENTS IS FOR THE PECAN CREEK RECLAMATION PLANT.

THAT'S INCREASING CAPACITY FROM 21 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 26 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO THIS WAS A CONTINUATION FROM THE CURRENT YEAR.

WE ALREADY FUNDED PART OF THE PROJECT IN THE FY 22 BUDGET.

SO THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL ASK OF 14 MILLION.

AND THIS I'M SORRY, THAT WAS 14 MILLION IN THIS YEAR WITH A PLANNED 36 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE SUMMARY EXPENSES AND THEN THE FUNDING SOURCES.

THAT COST PARTICIPATION DOES INCLUDE THE 8 MILLION FROM DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION ALONG WITH THE SEVEN FROM TEXT.

AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TEXT OUT RELOCATION REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WERE PLANNED.

SO THE TOTAL FIVE YEAR IS $238.

MILLION INCREASED FROM FY 22 FIVE YEAR TOTAL OF 200 MILLION.

AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR WASTEWATER.

QUESTIONS REGARDING WASTEWATER.

I WANT TO SEE THE.

SORRY. SEE NOTHING HERE, JIM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE JUST TWO BRIEF ONES.

SO THOSE LIGHT ITEMS INCLUDE THE NEW FERMENTER THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING ONLINE TO TO HELP WITH THE RENOVATIONS, AS WELL AS THE DIRT AND ORGANIC WASTE RECLAMATION.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE, PLANNED IN SOLID WASTE BUDGET IN THE WASTEWATER BUDGET.

OKAY. AND THEN THAT WOULD LIKELY BE THE SAME.

WELL, MAYBE NOT. I'LL ASK ANYWAY.

AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF IT'S THE SAME.

I KNOW THAT WE HAD THAT ONGOING PROJECT WITH BAILER AND I ABOUT WASTEWATER TESTING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE PUTTING ANY LINE ITEMS INTO THAT, ANY MONEY INTO THAT, OR IF THAT'S ALL BEING FUNDED ON THEIR SIDE.

AND SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION IS A, IS IT IS IT SOLID WASTE OR WASTEWATER? AND B, ARE WE IS THAT INCLUDED IN ANY OF THE BUDGETS? I'LL LET STEVEN COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

GREAT QUESTION. MAYOR PRO TEM STEVEN GAY, DIRECTOR WATER UTILITIES.

THAT PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY BEING LED BY OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND SUSTAINABILITY TEAM.

AND SO THERE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY FUNDING REQUIREMENT OF THE UTILITY FOR THAT PROGRAM.

SO SO THERE'S NO BUY IN ON OUR SIDE.

ALL RIGHT. NO, SIR. I MEAN, I GOT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR.

THANKS. OK.

IT TAKES A SOLID WASTE.

YES, SURE.

MY SCREEN. SORRY.

OKAY. SO WITH SOLID WASTE CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR FY 23 IN THE TOTAL OF $23.24 MILLION.

EXCUSE ME. WITH A PLANNED DEBT ISSUANCE OF 16 MILLION, THAT 3.5 MILLION FROM OPERATING IS REALLY REVENUE FUNDING.

THAT RATE REVENUE FUNDING.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS, SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS PLANNED.

SO SCALE HOUSE IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS REALLY EVALUATING THE LANES AND PROVIDING BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW AT THE SCALE HOUSE.

AND THEN THE HOME CHEMICAL COLLECTION CAPACITY, PART OF THAT SOLID WASTE PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING OVER THE LAST YEAR.

THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE ARE ROADS AT THE SOLID WASTE FACILITY ITSELF.

SO WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FACILITY.

AND THEN THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, THIS WAS THE FLEET SHOP AT SOLID WASTE.

THE DESIGN HAS ALREADY BEEN FUNDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO IN FY 22, THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE OF THAT.

SO WE FUNDED 500,000 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS TEN AND ONE HALF MILLION IN NEXT YEAR.

SO CONSTRUCTION SO THIS IS OUR ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION, CONTRIBUTION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW CELLS FIVE AND SIX AT THE LANDFILL.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL SHOW YOU THE SUMMARY.

SO AGAIN, THE EXPENDITURES AND THEN THE FUNDING SOURCES, THERE ARE NO COST PARTICIPATIONS IN THIS FUND.

SO JUST DEBT RATE, REVENUE FUNDING AND THEN THEIR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND.

AND I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SCHEDULED IN THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND, SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT WILL COME BACK TO YOU THROUGH THE OPERATING BUDGET AND THROUGH THE SUPPLEMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT WE'VE WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED IT BECAUSE IT WILL LIKELY BE DEBT FUNDED.

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AND SO AGAIN, THE TOTAL FIVE YEAR FOR SOLID WASTE CIP IS 52.7 MILLION, WHICH IS INCREASED FROM 42.8 MILLION FOR THE FY 22 FIVE YEAR TOTAL. AND WITH THAT.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SOLID WASTE.

SOLID WASTE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

LET'S SEE. NONE. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AND IF IN STAFF ANSWERED MY QUESTION, I RECEIVED A CONCERN PITCHERS FROM SOMEONE IN LINE SO CAN YOU IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE QUESTION OR I CAN TEE IT UP BUT THE QUESTION AROUND THE LINES THERE AT THE LANDFILL AND WHAT'S TRIGGERED THAT AND HOW THAT TIES IN TO THE NEED FOR THE SCALE UP DATES AND APPLICATION KIND OF REVIEW, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THOSE, JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT'S COMING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BRIAN BARNER, SOLID WASTE DIRECTOR.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONCERNS RAISED HERE IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS REGARDING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE LANDFILL AND PEOPLE HAVING TO WAIT IN LINE TO BE PROCESSED.

AND, YOU KNOW, GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS ABOUT THAT SITUATION IS WE'RE IN A GROWING AREA.

THE POPULATION IS GROWING, DFW IS MOVING TOWARDS DENTON.

IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.

WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PLACE TO WORK, WONDERFUL PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.

BUT WITH ALL THESE ACTIVITIES COMES WASTE.

AND COUPLED WITH THAT, WITH THE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT CLOSING THEIR DFW LANDFILL IN LEWISVILLE, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF THAT WASTE ACTUALLY BEING DIVERTED TO SINGLE HAUL WASTE TO THE CITY OF DENTON'S LANDFILL.

AND AS A RESULT, WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN.

WE RECENTLY APPROVED THE DESIGN OF A NEW SCALE HOUSE, WHICH FIRST AND FOREMOST WILL COUPLE SEAMLESSLY WITH OUR NEW SCALE HOUSE SYSTEM.

IT ALLOW MORE LANES COMING IN AND OUT.

IT WILL ALLOW A LOT MORE PROCESSING ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY IN THE PROCESSING OF THAT MATERIAL BACK AND FORTH INTO THE DAY, THOUGH, THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS IT'S WE DO CLOSE TO 750 TRANSACTIONS A DAY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THE LANDFILL.

IF THEY'RE NOT AT THE SCALE HOUSE, THEN THEY'RE LINING UP AT THE WORKING PHASE.

SO WE USE THE SCALE HOUSE A LITTLE BIT TO REGULATE THE FLOW, ENSURE WE HAVE A SAFE OPERATING SPACE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING DISPOSAL.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO DESIGN THE FACILITY FOR LIKE WAL-MART DOES FOR THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF REGISTERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

AND YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE OPEN.

BUT MOST OF THE DAY, WE USE IT TO REALLY GATE THE AMOUNT OF OF OF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET INTO THE LANDFILL AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THESE CONCERNS.

WE HEAR THEM LOUD AND CLEAR WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON ON OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEED THAT THAT TRANSACTION UP.

BUT LIKE ANY LANDFILL OR ANY ORGANIZATION THAT SEES INCREASED TRAFFIC, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASED WAIT TIME.

YEAH, NO, I THINK IT'S GREAT, GREAT INFORMATION.

I THINK MAYBE ONCE IT'S ONCE IT'S KIND OF IRONED OUT.

THERE'S A KIND OF A PREVIEW COMING SOON TYPE GRAPHIC THAT THEN KIND OF GETS PEOPLE ONE EDUCATED TO GET QUESTIONS EARLY AND OFTEN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT, MAKE ANY LAST MINUTE TWIST TWEAKS.

BUT THAT WAY AT LEAST FOLKS KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND KIND OF CAN VISUALIZE HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TAKES US TO THE AIRPORT.

SO MOVING ON TO AIRPORT.

I'M. SO IN FY 23, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 2.2 MILLION CAPITAL APPROPRIATION FOR AIRPORT. THIS WE ARE PLANNING THE ENTIRE AMOUNT TO BE A CO DEBT ISSUANCE.

AND SOME OF THE THE PROJECTS LISTED THERE.

SO THE RUNWAY TAXIWAY IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE A POTENTIAL TO GET DO RECEIVE AN FAA GRANT AND THE FAA GRANTS COME WITH 90% FUNDING.

SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE 10%, WHICH IS THE 1.8 MILLION THAT YOU SEE THERE.

SO IT'S AN 18 PROJECTED TO BE AN $18 MILLION PROJECT FOR RECONSTRUCTION OF OUR OF OUR PAVEMENT AND THE RUNWAY.

SO WE JUST IT WAS NOT PLANNED FROM LAST YEAR.

THIS IS A NEW PROJECT, NEW OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME UP.

SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THE ABILITY TO GO AFTER THAT GRANT AND HAVE THE MATCHING FUNDS NEEDED.

AND THEN THE THE SWEEPER.

THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO COME TO YOU IN THERE IN THE AIRPORT OPERATING BUDGET AS A SUPPLEMENTAL.

BUT WE WANTED TO INCLUDE IT HERE BECAUSE IT WILL LIKELY BE DEBT FUNDED.

SO WE'LL DISCUSS THIS IN MORE DETAIL ON AUGUST 6TH DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

BUT IT'S REALLY EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR THE ICE AND SNOW FROM THE RUNWAY AND THEN THEIR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.

THIS IS ANNUAL VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS THAT HAVE TO THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

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AND THEN THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL MOWER AND OTHER EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS.

AGAIN THAT THAT SUMMARY.

SO REALLY WE ONLY HAVE ONE YEAR OF PROJECTS PLANNED FOR THE AIRPORT IN THE IN FY 23.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON AIRPORT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE AIRPORT.

SEE NONE.

I DO HAVE I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE FOOD OUT THERE.

MENTIONED FOOD TRUCKS.

WHAT'S REQUIRED IF THERE'S A CERTIFIED FOOD TRUCK? I MEAN, THAT'S MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION AGAINST THEM DRIVING OUT TO THE AIRPORT RIGHT NOW? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN FIND OUT.

OKAY. YEAH, IF YOU LET ME KNOW THAT.

AND THEN ALSO PERIODICALLY I HEAR I JUST AND THIS IS KIND OF SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS, BUT IT KIND OF HELPS ME GUIDE DECISIONS ARE FEEDBACK IS CAN WE GET SOME SORT OF GRAPHIC OR CAN I GET SOME SORT OF GRAPHIC THAT SAYS, HERE'S THE PLANES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ABLE TO LAND.

HERE'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TAXIWAY IMPROVEMENT WILL ALLOW A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PLANE.

SO THAT WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF WE NEED LIGHTS.

YOU I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND KIND OF HOW THAT WHAT PLANES ARE ALLOWED VERSUS IF WE JUST DO THIS ADJUSTMENT, WE COULD DO THAT TYPE THING.

I'D BE BE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AND THEN FORWARD LOOKING, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF AND ONCE YOU KNOW, AS THE LOOP IS COMPLETED AND THAT KIND OF BACK END OF THINGS AS ACTIVATED, WHAT IS OUR PLAN FOR THAT PROPERTY ONCE WE CAN GET TO IT, YOU KNOW, OR ONCE IT'S CLOSER TO TO A STATE HIGHWAY, STREET, WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE.

RIGHT. I KNOW WE'RE PLANNING ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY ANSWERS YET, BUT DEFINITELY BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.

AND WE HAVE YOU HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

YES. NO, IT'S VERY EARLY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON TO THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT SUMMARY.

SO THIS PORTION OF THE CIP IS REALLY SUPPORTED BY THE I.N.S.

RATE, SO YOU MAY KNOW IT AS THE DEBT TAX RATE.

SO IT'S THAT PORTION OF THE THE TAX RATE THAT GOES SPECIFICALLY TO DEBT.

OUR CURRENT FY 22 RATE IS 21 AND ONE HALF CENTS AND THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT SUMMARY WILL GET INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT SLIDES.

BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR, NOT JUST FROM THE DEBT, THE DEBT RATE.

SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS, I KIND OF WANTED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT IS A BOND PROGRAM.

WHY DO WE ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS? BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN THE CO BONDS THAT WE ISSUE FOR THE UTILITY FUNDS.

GEO BONDS, AS YOU KNOW, ARE APPROVED BY VOTERS.

AND SO, THEREFORE, THOSE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE CANNOT FUND THROUGH CASH OR REVENUE FUNDING.

BUT IT ALSO IS A MECHANISM TO ALLOW FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR THOSE THEIR PIECE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE LASTS FOR A VERY, REALLY LONG TIME.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO HAVE CURRENT TAX PAYERS ONLY PAY FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE FUTURE TAXPAYERS WILL RECEIVE BENEFIT FROM.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DO ISSUE BONDS FOR THOSE LARGE PROJECTS.

SO USUALLY WITH A BOND PROGRAM, WE DIVIDE THEM INTO PROPOSITIONS AND THOSE ARE KIND OF LIKE CATEGORIES.

AND THEN EACH PROPOSITION GOES TO VOTE.

BUT IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THEMSELVES THAT THE VOTERS ARE VOTING ON.

IT'S BY THE PROPOSITION.

SO AS WE START TO PLAN AND WE LOOK AT OUR CURRENT BOND PROGRAMS, WE'RE KIND OF HALFWAY IN BETWEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

LOOKING FORWARD, WE'RE STARTING TO PLAN FOR WHAT WOULD A FUTURE BOND ELECTION LOOK LIKE? AND I DO HAVE SOME PROPOSED PROJECTS AND PROPOSED PROPOSITIONS FOR YOU IN A LATER SLIDE, BUT JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME AND WALK THROUGH WHILE THIS IS STILL VERY PRELIMINARY.

IF WE DO, IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEW BOND PROGRAM, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO GET THAT INPUT FROM COUNCIL.

WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER A SPECIAL CITIZENS BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WOULD REVIEW THE PROPOSED PROJECTS AND THE FUNDING LEVELS AND ULTIMATELY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WHICH COUNCIL WOULD VOTE ON.

SO THIS DOES TAKE A LONG TIME, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE COMING TO YOU NOW AND SAYING WE MAY NEED A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM FOR SOME OF THESE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS

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THAT COUNCIL HAS MADE PRIORITIES.

BUT THAT WILL HAVE IMPLICATIONS TO THE TAX RATE IF ANOTHER BOND PROGRAM IS ISSUED.

SO WITH THAT, I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE OF OUR CURRENT BOND PROGRAMS. SO I AM VERY PLEASED TO TELL YOU THAT THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM IS COMPLETE.

WE HAVE EXTENDED THE FUNDS THAT WE ISSUED FOR THE 2012 BOND PROGRAM.

SO YOU MAY RECALL THIS BOND PROGRAM WAS SPECIFIC FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

SO $20 MILLION FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND $400,000 FOR PUBLIC ART IMPROVEMENTS.

AND BECKY AND HER STAFF ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND ANY STATUS UPDATES.

SO WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK HARD ON OUR 24, COMPLETING OUR 2014 BOND PROGRAM.

PROPOSITION ONE WAS THOSE STREET SEGMENTS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF STREET SEGMENTS.

PROPOSITION TWO IS THAT PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.

SO THE THE FIRE IT WAS THE FIRE STATION FOUR AND THE BURN TOWER AND THE TRAINING FACILITY FOR FIRE.

THAT'S THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.

WE HAVE A FEW REMAINING DOLLARS THERE.

AND THEN PROP THREE WAS DRAINAGE, SO IT WAS MAGNOLIA HINKLE DRAINAGE PROJECT FOR CONCRETE PHASE TWO AND THEN EAGLE DRIVE DRAINAGE AND THEN PARK SYSTEMS YOU CAN SEE STILL HAVE SOME REMAINING FUNDS.

BUT IT WAS THE VELA SOCCER COMPLEX THAT SPRAY GROUND AND THEN THE TENNIS CENTER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE COURTS AT THAT TENNIS CENTER.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME REMAINING PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED THAT WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THE 2014 PROJECT OR BOND PROGRAM.

EXCUSE ME. AND WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING THOSE WE'VE WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

WE MET IN MAY WITH THEM, KIND OF LAID OUT SOME OPTIONS AND WHERE WE ARE AT ON THE STATUS.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL.

WE DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE AND TRYING TO GET THIS THIS BOND PROGRAM CLOSED OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND WITH OUR LATEST BOND PROGRAM, THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, WE STILL HAVE THREE YEARS LEFT OF ISSUANCE.

SO DON'T BE ALARMED WHEN YOU SEE THAT TOTAL REMAINING ON THE PROP ONE.

WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ALL OF THE DEBT YET.

THAT'S STILL AN ONGOING BOND PROGRAM, BUT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROP ONE WAS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REHABILITATION PROGRAM AND THEN SOME OF THOSE LARGER ROADWAY PROJECTS. SO BONNIE BRAE, FIVE AND SIX, HICKORY CREEK ROAD, RYAN ROAD.

AND THEN WE HAD SOME SIDEWALKS AND STREET LIGHTING FUNDING IN THERE AS WELL.

PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND SUBSTATION, MAKING PROGRESS ON COMPLETING THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN PARKLAND, YOU HAVE COUNCIL'S ALREADY PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED 2.3 MILLION PLUS AN ADDITIONAL MILLION OF COSTS TO ACQUIRE PARKLAND.

AND WE HAVE ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL 2.3 MILLION OR THE REMAINING 2.3 WILL GO TO.

AND THEN I KNOW WE'VE REVIEWED THIS SEVERAL TIMES, BUT JUST TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE YOU AS WE MAKE CHANGES TO THE ISSUANCE SCHEDULE, SO WE ARE USING OUR COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM FOR CONTRACT AUTHORITY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO BETTER ALIGN OUR BOND ISSUANCE WITH OUR CASH FLOW NEEDS SO WE'RE NOT ISSUING DEBT THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED YET.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS THIS ISSUANCE SCHEDULE CHANGING PRETTY FREQUENTLY AS WE MAKE UPDATES TO WHEN THE PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD.

SO TO MOVE NOW TO THE EXPENDITURE AND FUNDING.

BRIEFLY, I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN OF ALL OF THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ROLL UP INTO THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT SIDE OF THE CIP.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THE 2019 BOND ELECTION, PROP ONE THAT IS SPECIFICALLY GEO FUNDED, THAT WAS WHAT THE VOTERS ALREADY APPROVED WERE PLANNING TO ISSUE OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

BUT WANTED TO INCLUDE IT ON THIS SLIDE.

SO YOU SEE HOW MUCH WE ARE PLANNING TO CONTINUE FOR STREET REHABILITATION.

GENERAL GOVERNMENT FLEET WILL.

WE'LL DISCUSS EACH OF THESE IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

THE ONE I WANTED TO NOTE ON THIS SLIDE IS FINANCE.

YOU CAN SEE $11 MILLION IS PROGRAMED.

THAT'S FOR AN ERP SYSTEM.

SO AN ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SOFTWARE.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN ORACLE PRODUCT THAT IS CALLED J.D.

EDWARDS. IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1999, AND IT'S IN NEED OF AN UPDATE AND A REPLACEMENT.

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THE CITY HAS GROWN A LOT, CHANGED LINES OF BUSINESSES SINCE 1999.

SO THAT IS A SUPPLEMENTAL PACKAGE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, BUT WANTED TO INCLUDE IT IN THE CIP BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT MAY BE DEBT FUNDED BASED ON THE THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT.

AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO FACILITIES, PARKS, STREETS.

WE DID PUT SOME MONEY ASIDE FOR DRAINAGE.

SO THESE ARE SMALLER DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT MAYBE NEED TO BE DESIGNED.

AND SO THAT'S THE 1.5 MILLION THAT YOU SEE THERE.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO REFINE THOSE ESTIMATES AS NEEDED.

AND JUST AS DAVID DAVID NOTED EARLIER, AS WE FINALIZE THE OPERATING BUDGETS, THESE FUNDING SOURCES MAY CHANGE IF WE, DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTS US TO FUND AS PART OF SUPPLEMENTALS, THIS COULD CHANGE AS I BRING IT LATER IN THE SUMMER.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL GET INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT SUMMARIES.

SO STARTING WITH FACILITIES.

WE HAVE 19 MILLION IN CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR FY 23.

SO OF THAT, 18 AND A HALF IS BEING ANTICIPATED OF A DEBT ISSUANCE OF CO DEBT, AND THEN ANOTHER 521,000 WOULD BE FUNDED BY OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S SPECIFIC FOR UTILITY, THEIR NEEDS FOR FACILITIES.

AND YOU MAY REMEMBER FIRE STATION NINE, WE WE WE FUNDED THE DESIGN PORTION OF THAT IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

SO THAT'S UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

THAT WAS $750,000 THAT WE FUNDED FROM CURRENT YEAR FY 22.

AND THE 13.1 MILLION YOU SEE IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE OF THAT FIRE STATION AND THAT'S AT THE AIRPORT.

AND THEN NEW THIS YEAR, THE FACILITY SECURITY SYSTEM UPDATES.

WE'RE REQUESTING 1.2 MILLION FOR JUST SOME SECURITY UPDATES FOR OUR CITYWIDE FACILITIES AND THEN THE FACILITY ADA UPGRADES, THOSE ARE TO IMPLEMENT UPGRADES THAT CAME OUT OF THE 2021 ADA STUDY.

AND WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL MONEY IN PARKS FOR ADA UPDATES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE.

AND THEN THE FACILITIES, CAPITAL MAINTENANCE, THIS IS AN ANNUAL AMOUNT THAT WE CONTRIBUTE FOR ANY TYPE OF CAPITAL MAINTENANCE THAT COMES UP THAT'S NEEDED.

FACILITIES IS UNDERGOING A COMPREHENSIVE FACILITY ASSESSMENT RIGHT NOW.

SO WHILE THIS IS A PLACEHOLDER, THIS MAY CHANGE AS WE GO THROUGH THAT ASSESSMENT AND DECIDE THERE'S MORE NEEDS THAT WE MAY NEED TO ADDRESS AS PART OF THAT STUDY.

SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE FIVE YEAR SUMMARY OF FACILITIES.

YOU CAN SEE THE 18.5 MILLION WE'RE PLANNING TO ISSUE IN DEBT IN 23 WITH THAT REVENUE FUNDED CAPITAL REALLY BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE UTILITY BUDGETS. AND THEN I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IN 27, 26, 27, YOU SEE THAT LARGE $20 MILLION NUMBER.

THAT'S ANOTHER FIRE STATION THAT WE'RE PLANNING IN THE FUTURE FOR THE FUTURE YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FACILITIES.

QUESTIONS FOR SAM.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S.

THIS GOES BACK THIS GOES BACK TO SEE THE BOND PROGRAMS 2014 SPECIFICALLY AND MAYBE 2019, BUT NOT SO MUCH ARE WE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK ON.

WE ISSUED CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BONDS FOR PROJECTS, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, INFLATION, COST OF MATERIALS, HAVE WE KEPT UP WITH HOW MANY OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE EITHER SHRUNK OR, IN OTHER WORDS, HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO FUND THE ONES THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED? OR HOW ARE WE KEEPING UP WITH WHAT WE'VE FUNDED AND THEN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE BASED UPON COST AND THE LIKE? THAT'S A GREAT A GREAT QUESTION AND ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN GRAPPLING WITH FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.

I THINK WHEN YOU SAW THAT SLIDE ON THE 2014 BOND PROGRAM, YOU SAW THE ORIGINAL PROPOSITION AMOUNT WAS 98 MILLION, AND NOW WE'RE AT 145 MILLION.

SO A PORTION OF THAT IS SCOPE AND SCOPE CHANGE, AND A LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS INFLATION.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COUNSEL LAST YEAR AROUND THIS TIME WHERE WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL COSTS, A SECOND ROUND OF ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR 2014 MINE PROGRAM.

AND WE LINE ITEM THAT WE SAID, HERE'S HOW MUCH WAS INFLATION, HERE'S HOW MUCH WAS SCOPE CHANGE.

SO WE CAN GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET.

NO, NO, THAT'S FINE. WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT, YEAH, THERE'S BEEN SOME SHORTAGES BASED UPON COST INCREASES AND THE LIKE, AND YOU JUST COME BACK TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MAKE THAT UP, TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST AS MANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SLATED TO BE COMPLETED FOR THAT BOND PROGRAM ARE COMPLETED.

AND WE HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT AS MUCH FOR THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

BUT INFLATION IS RIGHT NOW IN CONSTRUCTION, AS WE ALL KNOW.

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THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER. MAYOR PRO TEM.

SORRY IT WAS ON THE WRONG SCREEN.

YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS FOR OR REQUESTS FOR SORT OF THE FUTURE REPORTING.

BUT ON THE THE SOFTWARE UPGRADES THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, WHEN THOSE COME BACK AROUND AND WE'RE GETTING THE DETAILED REPORT.

I KNOW HINDSIGHT IS 2020, BUT COULD COULD STAFF DO AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT HAVING SUCH LONG DUTY CYCLES ARE ON THEIR SOFTWARE? AND ACTUALLY, THIS IS JUST A A SOFTWARE QUESTION IN GENERAL, WHETHER IT'S A DEER OR OR THE CMO'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER.

WE SEEM TO I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR IT.

YOU'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE THE MOST YOU CAN FROM A PARTICULAR SOFTWARE PACKAGE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE REALLY LONG DUTY CYCLES, THAT ACTUALLY MAKES IT REALLY PROBLEMATIC AND PAINFUL AND EXPENSIVE TO UPGRADE.

SO IF STAFF COULD DO AN ESTIMATE ON THE HIDDEN COSTS OF HOW OF A LONG DUTY CYCLE ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF SOFTWARE AND WHAT THAT'S COSTING THE CITY IN THE LONG RUN AND WHETHER IT MIGHT BE ADVISABLE TO HAVE SHORTER DUTY CYCLES, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D LOOK FORWARD TO. AND THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, MR. BEAR. WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT TECH SERVICES, AS WE'RE BRINGING CONTRACTS FOR RENEWAL OR THEY'RE TERMING AND WE'RE GOING OUT TO PROCURE NEW SOFTWARE.

TECH SERVICES IS EVALUATING THE LIFECYCLE OF HOW LONG WE SHOULD BE KEEPING THAT SOFTWARE NOW.

BUT THAT'S AS THEY AS THE CONTRACTS COME UP FOR RENEWAL OR THEY'RE TERMED.

ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

SPEAKING OF, WE'LL MOVE ON TO TECH SERVICES.

SO TEXAS TECH SERVICES CURRENT FY 23 CAPITAL BUDGET OF 2.2 MILLION.

WE ARE NOT PROJECTING ANY DEBT ISSUANCE AND YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE HOW WE'RE PLANNING TO FUND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

BUT JUST SOME THE MAJOR PROJECTS FOR TECH SERVICES THAT WE'RE PLANNING ARE INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT.

SO THEY'RE ON A CURRENT 6 TO 8 YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO BUDGET ANNUALLY FOR THOSE REPLACEMENTS GOING FORWARD.

AND THEN THE END USER COMPUTING, THE LAPTOPS AND TABLET REPLACEMENTS, THAT'S ON A FIVE YEAR CYCLE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO BUDGET EACH YEAR TO REPLACE A PORTION OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THE RADIOS AND MODEMS, THAT IS, WHILE ALL OF THEM HAVE A LIFE CYCLE OF REPLACEMENT EVERY 8 TO 10 YEARS, THE FIRST YEAR FOR FY 23 THAT'S PLANNED IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RADIO.

SO THAT WILL SPECIFICALLY BE THE GENERAL FUND PORTION.

AND LISA IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THESE PROJECTS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IN THE TECH SERVICES BUDGET IS THAT WE WE'VE TAKEN A DEEPER DIVE AND LOOKED AT OUR CURRENT FUNDING OF TECH SERVICES WHERE WE'VE HAD PROJECTS THAT MAYBE COST US A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED.

AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO USE APPROXIMATELY $600,000 FROM EXISTING PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE FOUND LOOKING THROUGH THEIR CAPITAL, THEIR CURRENT CAPITAL BUDGET, TO FUND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT OR A PORTION OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT.

THE END USER COMPUTING WILL BE ALLOCATED TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS CITYWIDE, SO IT WON'T JUST BE PAID FOR BY A GENERAL FUND.

AND AND SAME WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT THAT'S IT'S ALLOCATED BASED ON WHAT DEPARTMENT NEEDS WHAT.

SO DID WANT TO NOTE THAT BUT A TOTAL FIVE YEAR CIP FOR TECH SERVICES OF 13.357 MILLION.

AND WITH THAT. HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

OK. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU.

SO FOLLOWING DIRECTLY ON FROM YOUR LAST COMMENT.

SO ARE THE THE BUDGETS FOR INDIVIDUAL COMPUTERS AND INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS ALL BEING AGGREGATED INTO THAT LINE ITEM THAT WE JUST SAW? YES. THE REPLACEMENTS.

YES, THEY ARE.

WE'RE TRYING TO. BUT.

OKAY. AND DOES THAT BUT DOES THAT INCLUDE PUBLIC FACING COMPUTERS AND THE LIKE? SEE AT THE LIBRARIES OR WHATNOT? YES, IT DOES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON THAT, BUT I WILL AFFORD THEM TO STAB TO SEE IF I THINK THEY'RE RELEVANT.

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THANK YOU. ONE.

ONE QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

COULD YOU SO INFRASTRUCTURE, COULD YOU GIVE ME A FEEL, KIND OF A FEEL FOR WHAT THAT IS? WHAT DID THEY DETERMINE NEED TO BE REPLACED OR UPDATED? I'M GOING TO DEFER TO LISA ON THAT QUESTION.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL ALISHA MINNIE CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU SEE IN DATA CENTERS.

THAT WOULD BE YOUR STORAGE APPLIANCES, YOUR FIREWALLS, SERVERS, THAT KIND OF THING THAT MOST OF THAT'S KIND OF A COMMON NETWORK FOUNDATION FOR ALL OF THE OPERATIONS AND THAT'S WHAT THEIR APPLICATIONS RUN ON ALL THE END USER EQUIPMENT CONNECTS TO THAT KIND OF THING.

YES. SO ALONG THOSE LINES, JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT YOU HAD, PRIORITIZE OBVIOUSLY.

SO INFRASTRUCTURE COULD BE SECURITY BEING THAT THING.

JUST KIND OF WHAT IF YOU COULD GO A STEP LOWER TO SAY WHAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR US? WELL, WE USUALLY REPLACE THEM AFTER WARRANTIES EXPIRE.

SO IT'S A VARIETY OF EQUIPMENTS OR SO IT COULD BE FIREWALLS.

THIS NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE CATEGORIES IN EVERY DATA CENTER COMPONENT AREA THAT WILL BE REPLACING OVER THE EACH YEAR.

SO IT COULD BE FIREWALLS, IT COULD BE SERVERS, IT COULD BE STORAGE APPLIANCES.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHEN THOSE WARRANTIES EXPIRE.

GOT IT. BUT TO COME UP WITH THIS NUMBER, DID WE KIND OF DO THAT ANALYSIS? ABSOLUTELY. WE DO HAVE A HUGE ASSET LIST.

I MEAN, WE COULD DEFINITELY SHARE THAT AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

GOT IT. NO, NO, NO. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT NUMBER AND KIND OF WAS THAT THAT THAT BALANCE TO GET THERE? YES, SIR. I GUESS, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS IS EXACTLY GERMANE TO YOUR QUESTION, MR. MAYOR. SINCE WE DRILLED DOWN INTO IT SLIGHTLY, DOES THE CITY USE PREDOMINANTLY IN COMPUTERS? ARE THEY LOOKING TO TO MIGRATE TO THIN CLIENTS AND USE SORT OF SORT OF DESKTOP AS A SERVICE KIND OF MODELS TO TO MITIGATE COSTS BECAUSE YOU CAN KEEP THOSE UPGRADED FASTER AND BETTER THAN THAN UPGRADING THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THAT DEEPLY.

WE ARE USING SOME VIRTUAL DESKTOP INFRASTRUCTURE IN SEVERAL AREAS.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME OF THAT.

WE JUST DO NOT USE THAT AS 100% MODEL FOR END USE AND COMPLIANCE COMPUTER END USER CONNECTIVITY.

SO I WOULD SAY, SIR, THAT WE HAVE A PORTION OF VDI AND THEN WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF REGULAR COMPUTER LAPTOP JUST BECAUSE OF THE MOBILITY. BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO USE THAT VIRTUAL DESKTOP INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE IN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AREA.

AND THEY USE VDI TO CONNECT BACK IN TO THE CITY DATA CENTER FROM THEIR HOMES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

WELCOME. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE INTO FLEET.

SORRY. THERE'S A DELAY AND IT DOESN'T LIKE THE MOUSE OR THE COMPUTER THERE.

SO FLEET HAS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR.

WE ARE ASKING FOR 1.3 FOR CAPITAL SPECIFIC PER CAPITAL PROJECTS WITHIN FLEET.

YOU'LL SEE THOSE LISTED ON THE SCREEN TWO DIFFERENT TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AND THEN VEHICLE ADDITIONS THAT WE'VE LISTED SEPARATELY AND WE'LL GET INTO THOSE IN A MOMENT.

BUT FIRST, THE THE FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE.

THIS IS TO REPLACE THE FUEL DISPENSERS, HOSES, RETRACTORS AND NOZZLES AT THE SERVICE CENTER, REFUELING LOCATION AND THEN THE FLEET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

THIS IS TO UPDATE THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT FLEET CURRENTLY USES.

SO THAT'S PLANNED FOR $1,000,000 FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND I BELIEVE FLEET IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS AS WE MOVE THROUGH.

SO THE NEW VEHICLES, WE HAVE THOSE SEPARATELY FROM VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS BECAUSE WE WE MAY FUND THOSE DIFFERENTLY.

AND ALSO ALL OF THESE VEHICLE ADDITIONS THAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE PART OF A SUPPLEMENTAL PACKAGE THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU DURING THE OPERATING BUDGET DISCUSSION.

SO THESE MAY BE NEEDED IF A DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING ADDITIONAL STAFF AND THEY NEED ANOTHER VEHICLE TO FOR THAT STAFF MEMBER TO TO OPERATE. AND THEN JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT VEHICLE EDITION FOR FIRE IS FOR THE FIRE STATION NINE.

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AND THEN I LISTED THE GENERAL FUND VEHICLES.

SO THERE'S 21 PROPOSED NEW VEHICLES IN GENERAL FUND.

BUT THAT'S THOSE ARE FUNDED SEPARATELY THAN THE UTILITY SYSTEM VEHICLES, WHICH UTILITIES PAYS FOR THEIR VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS WITH CASH.

AND THEN TO MOVE ON TO VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS.

SO THESE ARE CURRENT VEHICLES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR FLEET AND THEY MAY MEET THE REPLACEMENT CRITERIA.

SO WE LOOK AT THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE, THE MILES, THE USE, THE DOWNTIME AND THE MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND THEN FLEET GIVES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHEN IT'S TIME TO REPLACE THOSE VEHICLES.

SO AGAIN, JUST LIKE THE LAST SLIDE, GENERAL FUND VEHICLES, REPLACEMENTS FUNDED THROUGH DEBT, BUT THE UTILITY SYSTEM FUNDS THEIR VEHICLES GENERALLY THROUGH REVENUE.

SO REVENUE, CASH FUNDING THOSE VEHICLES.

SO AGAIN, PLANNED REPLACEMENTS FOR 48 VEHICLES IN GENERAL FUND AND 37 FOR THE UTILITY SYSTEM.

AND BECAUSE COUNCIL WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS ONE OF THEIR PRIORITIES IN THE IN THE RECENT COUNCIL RETREAT, I WANTED TO PROVIDE KIND OF THE PLAN RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF ELECTRIC AND ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES.

SO YOU CAN SEE OF THE LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT 47 FOR NEXT YEAR OF ALTERNATIVE FUEL AND THEN THREE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES TRYING TO INCREASE THAT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AGAIN, WE ALL KNOW THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ARE REALLY GIVING FLEETS SOME ISSUES RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY.

WE'LL TRY VERY HARD TO GET THESE VEHICLES IN IN OUR FLEET, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT FLEET.

AND HERE IS THEIR FIVE YEAR SUMMARY AGAIN.

THE DEBT FUNDED CAPITAL IN THIS BUDGET IS ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, NOT THE UTILITIES SIDE.

THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE UTILITY FUNDS SUMMARIES THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY SAW.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR FLEET QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FLEET.

SEE? NONE. THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO PARKS AND RECREATION.

SO PARK'S CAPITAL BUDGET OF 5.75 MILLION, AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING A CO ISSUANCE OF 780,000.

AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING SOURCES IN PARKS CIVIL LIST AND A COUPLE OF SLIDES, BUT WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE THE MAJOR CATEGORIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS IN. SO ARTS AND CULTURE, THIS IS PRIMARILY FUNDED THROUGH OUR HOT FUNDS AND GRANTS.

OBVIOUSLY, THE THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE WILL BE REVIEWING THOSE APPLICATIONS LATER IN JULY AND MAY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS TO YOU IN AUGUST.

WE'LL BRING THAT BACK. BUT THESE ARE THE PLANNED PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'LL BE REQUESTING FROM THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE.

SO FOR FY 23, YOU CAN SEE THOSE THOSE PROJECTS LISTED.

AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE UTILITY BOXES THERE IS A GRANT THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FOR YOU, APPROVED IT ON THE JUNE 7TH COUNCIL MEETING. BUT IT IT'S FOR THOSE UTILITY BOXES.

AND WE'RE WE SHOULD FIND OUT IF WE GET THE AWARD IN AUGUST.

SO THAT MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON THAT AWARD STATUS.

BUT RIGHT NOW, PLANNING TO FUND PART OF THAT WITH GRANTS.

SO CONTINUING WITH SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS, GARY AND HIS STAFF HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF OUTLINING ALL OF THE NEEDS, NOT ONLY IN THE FIVE YEARS, BUT HE PLANS FOR 25 YEARS IN ADVANCE.

SO REALLY FOCUSING ON THE CAPITAL OR THE AQUATICS CAPITAL MAINTENANCE, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM TO FUND THAT THAT CAPITAL MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR AT OUR AQUATIC CENTERS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT IN THIS CAPITAL BUDGET.

SO WE'VE TENTATIVELY PLANNED FOR 477,000 FUNDING IN FY 23 WITH A TOTAL OF 1.6 MILLION FOR THE FIVE YEAR. BUT THIS IS PROJECTS THAT FOR ALL OF OUR POOLS, CHEMICALS, LIGHTING, THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO THIS IS A NEW, NEW PLAN THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO ADDRESS THOSE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ITEMS.

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AND THEN CEMETERY.

WE HAVE ONGOING REPAIRS AT THE CEMETERY FOR 25,000 FOR NEXT YEAR, FY 23.

THE PLAYGROUND INSTALLATIONS AND REPLACEMENTS THIS THIS 689,000 RIGHT NOW IS PLANNED FOR A NEW PLAYGROUND AT SEQUOIA.

THE DESIGN PORTION OF A NEW INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND AND THEN A PLAYGROUND AT THE PARKSIDE PROPERTIES FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO FY 23.

THE RECREATION CENTER.

THIS IS 266,000 FOR NEXT YEAR.

NEEDED TO ADDRESS SOME REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AT OUR REC CENTERS.

SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PROJECTS LISTED THERE WITH A TOTAL FIVE YEAR.

SO AGAIN, TRYING TO PROVIDE FUNDING ANNUALLY FOR THESE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FOR A TOTAL FIVE YEAR AMOUNT OF 617,000.

AND THEN THE TREES AND BEAUTIFICATION, THIS IS TO BE FUNDED FROM THE TREE FUND.

SO 1.6 MILLION TOTAL IN THE FIVE YEARS.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TYPES OF PROJECTS PLANNED FOR FY 23.

AND THEN THE PARK DEVELOPMENT AND ACQUISITION TALKING ABOUT THE 915 916 FUNDING THAT THE PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY WOULD INCLUDE THE VILLAGES OF CARMEL BOWLING GREEN PARK, IMPROVEMENTS FOR A FIVE YEAR TOTAL OF 2.8 MILLION.

AND THEN TRAIL DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT, TRYING TO FIND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A MECHANISM TO FUND THOSE ONGOING REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.

SO. 74,000 NEEDED FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT THE FIVE YEAR TOTAL IS 5.9 MILLION FOR TRAIL DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN PARK IMPROVEMENTS TOTAL FIVE YEARS, 6.7 MILLION ASKING FOR 501,000 JUST IN FY 23.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SEVERAL PROJECTS WITHIN THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS CATEGORY.

BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO UPDATE EXISTING PARKS TO MAKE ADA ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE THE FIVE YEAR EXPENDITURE CATEGORY THAT WE JUST KIND OF TOOK THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROJECTS.

AND PREVIOUSLY INCLUDED IN OUR CURRENT FY 22 SIP, WE HAD $300,000 IN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR PARKS.

SO THIS IS A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE CIP PROGRAM THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.

AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL SHOW YOU THE THE FUNDING SOURCES.

SO PARKS IS REALLY UTILIZING A SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDING, NOT JUST RELIANT ON THAT DEBT FUNDING, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE FOR THE APPROPRIATE PROJECT.

SO 25.5 MILLION PLANNED RIGHT NOW FOR THE FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEAR CIP.

AND SO WITH THAT. HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON PARKS QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR MAGUIRE.

OKAY. THANKS.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ON HERE THAT JUMPS OUT TO ME AS OBVIOUSLY BEING RELATED TO THE SENIOR CENTER.

I WAS WONDERING, GARY, IF YOU COULD COMMENT ON WHERE SENIOR CENTER PROJECTS ARE ON YOUR RADAR? OUR RADAR ON THE TIMELINE, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED ARE VERY BIG PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF A FIVE YEAR PLAN.

SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE.

GARY PACKAN DIRECTOR, PARKS AND RECREATION.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE SHARED THE SLIDE SO FAR ON THE BOND PROJECTS, BUT THAT IS AN ANTICIPATED FUTURE BOND PROJECT FOR RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SENIOR CENTER.

ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT COMPLETELY ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CNN. I HAVE A COUPLE.

THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS TODAY.

WELL, LET ME JUST PAUSE.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DON'T WANT TO SUPERSEDE YOU.

IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE.

NO, NO, GO. GO AHEAD, BECAUSE THEN I'LL JUST FINISH UP AND WE'LL MOVE ON.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO MY QUESTION IS REAL SIMPLE.

THE RECOMMENDED PATRON FEES THAT GO INTO ESTABLISHING THE VARIOUS POOL AND OTHER RECREATIONAL USES RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THOSE ARE 50 TO 90% RECOVERY FOR SOME OF OUR OUR FACILITIES. IS IT ANTICIPATED THAT THOSE SAME FRACTIONS ARE WHAT WE'RE CARRYING FORWARD OR THERE MIGHT BE ROOM TO ADJUST AND THEREFORE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE NUMBERS WE JUST SAW.

SO WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT LATER IN THE BUDGET PROCESS LATER IN THE YEAR.

WE'LL BE BRINGING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALL OF THE FEE SCHEDULES, NOT JUST PARKS, DURING THAT AUGUST SIX BUDGET WORKSHOP.

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ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWERS IN ADVANCE.

BUT COULD YOU SPEAK TO ME ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON KIND OF IN LIGHT OF THE FIELD HOUSE INCIDENT THERE IN DALLAS WHERE THE PERSON ENTERED THAT FACILITY? ALL OF OUR REC CENTERS AND THAT STAFF IS IN THE CENTER UNPROTECTED.

YOU KNOW, ARE WE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MODIFYING THOSE? WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR KIND OF LONG TERM GOAL OR SHORT TERM GOAL OR MODIFICATIONS? I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO FROM A WE NEED TO CONSIDER FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

YEAH. GARY PACKAN DIRECTOR PARKS RECREATION.

TO RESPOND TO THAT FIRST.

FIRST AND FOREMOST HAS FACILITIES IS WORKING THROUGH THEIR FACILITY ASSESSMENT.

WE CAN IDENTIFY WHICH FACILITIES ARE GOING TO BE TAKING OFFLINE AND PLANNING FOR FUTURE LONG TERM DEVELOPMENTS.

AS WE REINVEST, WE CAN LOOK AT SHORT TERM IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'LL HAVE TO BE WORKED WITH FACILITIES TO IDENTIFY FUNDING FOR THAT AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO PHYSICALLY WORK IN THOSE FACILITIES.

EVACUATION. I MEAN THAT OUR FRONT DESK OPERATIONS ARE TYPICALLY IN THE CORE OF OUR FACILITIES NEAR THE FRONT DOOR.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT AND WHAT CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE AS WELL AS SOME SHORT TERM IDEAS OR FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE.

BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TO COME UP WITH THE SOLID PLAN.

AND THEN BACK TO THE NUMBER SIDE OF THINGS FROM A FORWARD LOOKING STANDPOINT, OBVIOUSLY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO WE'VE INCREASED THE FEES STRAIGHT AWAY.

HAVE WE FACTORED THAT IN TO HOW WE HOW THOSE WILL BE ALLOCATED THE PARK FEES AND THAT? AND IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT AND USE IT FOR THIS REGULAR MAINTENANCE? OR WHAT'S WHAT'S BEEN YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE FINDING OF HOME FOR THE MAINTENANCE FEES THE PARK LAND DEDICATION DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE. IT CAN BE USED FOR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, NEW PLAYGROUNDS, NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, AS IS REPLACING THE OLD, BUT IT CAN'T BE REGRADING NEW TURF, THAT TYPE OF THING.

JUST FOR THAT'S TYPICAL DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT WILL THAT INCREASE FEE WILL GIVE US FLEXIBILITY TO ACQUIRE LAND IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.

WE BASICALLY HAVE A TETHER OF A ONE MILE CIRCLE THAT THAT MONEY CAN BE USED AROUND.

THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT OCCURRED FROM THIS NEW ORDINANCE IS BY GEOGRAPHIC REGION.

SO WE CAN USE THAT FUNDING WITHIN ANYWHERE WITHIN THAT REGION.

SO WE HAVE MUCH GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO USE THAT ON A MORE RAPID RESPONSE TIME.

GOT IT. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE WHEN PEOPLE ARE DEDICATING LAND TO US, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THOSE NUMBERS, ARE WE ARE WE FORECASTING OUT THOSE KIND OF, HEY, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WE GET THE LAND FOR THIS AMOUNT, BUT IT'S GOING TO COST US X AMOUNT GOING FORWARD.

SO YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE CAPTURING THAT.

BUT HOW HOW ACCURATE HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO STAY WITH INFLATION, ETC., ETC.? ARE WE STAYING PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH EXPECTATIONS? SO THE QUESTION IS REGARDING MAINTENANCE OF THAT LAND.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO THERE'S I GUESS, TWO PERIODS THAT THAT LAND WILL GO THROUGH THE SHORT TERM.

AND WHAT WE TRY TO DO ON EVERY ACE THAT WE GET IS HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COST TO MAINTAIN THAT ONCE WE ACQUIRE IT.

THAT'S A BASIC FEE THAT INCLUDES LITTER ABATEMENT, MOWING, THE ILLEGAL DUMPING OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND THEN ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND ACTUALLY MASTER PLAN THE PROPERTY AND GO TOWARDS IT AND CONSTRUCTION, THEN WE LOOK AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS HIGHER LEVEL OF MOWING, LITTER, GRAFFITI, GRAFFITI REMOVAL, THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO THERE'S TWO LAYERS THAT THAT GOES THROUGH OR CYCLES.

SO THE INITIAL THE INITIAL ANSWER IS AS WE ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, WE PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH THAT UPDATE IN THE EYES AND THEN WE PLAN TO PUT THAT IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE FOR OPERATING.

AND THEN FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT, WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK IF WE'RE OFF, LET'S SAY YEAR ONE, TWO, WE'RE ON YEAR THREE, WE GET OUT OF WHACK.

ARE WE ABLE TO GO BACK TO A ENTITY AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO RENEGOTIATE HOW MUCH YOU PAY IN? OR IS IT KIND OF WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT ON THE FRONT END? SO THAT'S A ONE TIME FEE THAT THEY PAY.

SO THEY PAY FOR THEIR THE LAND ACQUISITION, WHICH EITHER OUTRIGHT LAND DONATION OR FEE IN LIEU OF.

AND WE CAN USE THAT MONEY TO BUY LAND ANYWHERE IN THAT AREA OR THEY AND THEY GIVE US A DEVELOPMENT FEE AND THAT'S FOR THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK.

THEY DO NOT PAY FOR MAINTENANCE.

THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THE DEVELOPER WHERE THEY MAY BE MAINTAINING IT.

LONG TERM 100 AND RANCH IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE THEY'RE PROVIDING THE LAND, THEY'RE DEVELOPING THE PARKS FOR US AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT FOR US AS WELL.

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THAT'S MORE OF A UNIQUE THAN THIS.

GOT IT. I'D LOVE TO SEE US.

KIND OF, MAYBE.

SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WORK THOSE NUMBERS SIDE BY SIDE AND SEE IF BECAUSE OF COST AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, MAYBE THAT IT BECOMES MORE ADVANTAGEOUS AND MORE BENEFICIAL TO LOOK AT THAT MODEL, YOU KNOW, A CHANGE IN THAT MODEL.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY HELPFUL.

AND THEN JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, GARY'S BEEN VERY GRACIOUS TO LISTEN TO ME ASK FOR GLAMPING TYPE PARK AND KAYAK LAUNCHES AND HE'S BEEN VERY GOOD AT WORKING ON THOSE THINGS, REALLY EXCITED.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE UPDATES AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'LL BE A REALLY GOOD ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

HE TAKES US TO PUBLIC WORKS.

AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, GARY AND THEY WERE STILL HITTING HOME RUNS INTO THE CREEK OVER THE NEW FENCE.

AND IT WAS CRAZIEST THING DURING DURING JUNETEENTH.

YEAH. I WAS LIKE, WHAT IN THE WORLD HAVE TO KICK UP A THIRD LAYER? OK PUBLIC WORKS.

SO MOVING ON TO PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.

FOR STRAIT SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE FORECASTING 957,000 FOR STREETS, CAPITAL MAINTENANCE OR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

EXCUSE ME. THIS IS REALLY SPECIFICALLY TO PARKING LOT MAINTENANCE.

SO CITY OWNED PARKING LOTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE THE THE PLANNED PARKING LOT RECONSTRUCTIONS THERE BECAUSE WE ARE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM AND OTHER TYPES.

WE'RE NOT SPECIFICALLY OUTLINING ANY STREET PROJECTS FOR NEXT YEAR.

WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON COMPLETING THAT 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

THAT'S REALLY BEEN THE FOCUS.

BUT WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR PARKING LOT REPLACEMENTS RIGHT NOW.

SO I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AND PROVIDE IT IN THE CAPITAL PLAN.

WE ARE PROPOSING TO USE EXISTING FUND BALANCE FROM THE STREET FUND TO PAY FOR THE INITIAL YEAR OF THE PARKING LOT REPLACEMENT.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FUND BALANCE OF 4.5 MILLION IN THE STREET FUND.

SO DRAW THAT DOWN ONE TIME FOR THESE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS NEXT YEAR.

AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE EXPENDITURE AND FUNDING SOURCES THERE.

SO EXISTING FUND BALANCE IN 957,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN POTENTIALLY IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO REVENUE FUND THOSE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.

SO MOVING ON TO TRAFFIC.

SO THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR TRAFFIC IS 1.16 MILLION.

WE ARE THESE ARE ALL AS SUPPLEMENTALS IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, BUT LIKELY WE WILL FUND THESE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE OPERATION AS AS WE WORK THROUGH FINALIZING THE OPERATING BUDGETS.

TRAFFIC SIGNAL CABINETS AND BATTERY BACKUPS.

208,000 IN FY 23 TO TEST AND REPLACE BATTERY BACKUPS FOR SIGNALS.

SO AT THE CURRENT STAFFING LEVEL, THEY CAN REPLACE ABOUT TEN A YEAR.

SO THESE ARE CABINETS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

THERE'S 80 CABINETS IN THE CITY THAT STILL NEED TO BE CHANGED OUT.

SO THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL TEN FOR NEXT YEAR'S REPLACEMENT.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THEY'RE TRYING TO AGAIN GET THESE ON AN ANNUAL KIND OF MAINTENANCE REPLACEMENT CYCLE.

SO YOU'LL SEE FUNDING FOR THAT IN THE IN THE FUTURE YEARS AS WELL.

THE FIRE PREEMPTION TECHNOLOGY TRAFFIC WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO TO GIVE ME A RUNDOWN ON WHAT THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY MEANS.

SO INSTEAD OF USING LIGHTS FOR THE FIRE, THE THE FIRE TRUCKS, WHEN THEY COME INTO AN INTERSECTION IT USES, THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO USING CELLULAR AND RADIO COMMUNICATION INSTEAD OF LINE OF SIGHT.

SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TESTING THIS TECHNOLOGY AT BONNIE BRAE FOR FIRE STATION FIVE, AND IT'S WORKED REALLY WELL.

SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO START IMPLEMENTING CITYWIDE.

SO THIS IS A 720,000 TO TO START THAT IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN THE GRID SMART VEHICLE DETECTION.

SO THIS IS AGAIN ANNUAL KIND OF REPLACEMENT MAINTENANCE FOR AGING EQUIPMENT.

SO IT'S 12 INTERSECTIONS WOULD BE THE AMOUNT THAT WE COULD DO FOR 240,000, BUT IT'S SIGNAL TIMING.

SO AS THE CAR ENTERS THE INTERSECTION, THE LIGHTS WILL CHANGE ACCORDINGLY.

SO THIS WOULD ASSIST WITH THE SIGNAL TIMING AND SURE, TRAFFIC FLOWS CORRECTLY.

AND THEN THE FIVE YEAR SUMMARY.

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SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW WE ARE PLANNING ON REVENUE FUNDING AS WE FINALIZE THAT OPERATING BUDGET.

THIS MAY CHANGE TO DEBT FUNDING, BUT A TOTAL FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PROGRAM OF 2.96 MILLION FOR TRAFFIC.

AND THEN STREETS.

SO DID WANT TO JUST MENTION THOSE THOSE LARGE STREET PROJECTS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON AS PART OF THE 2019 PROGRAM.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REHABILITATION PROGRAM, SO WE'RE ISSUING $20 MILLION OF GEOS NEXT YEAR TO COMPLETE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PACKAGES. BUT THAT IS JUST THE THE DEBT ISSUANCE ON THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT SIDE.

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE UTILITY FUNDS THAT WE'RE ISSUING DEBT FOR TO TO REPLACE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG WITH THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN BONNIE BRAY, PHASE FIVE AND SIX, WE HAVE SCHEDULED TO ISSUE 7.5 MILLION NEXT YEAR AND THEN HICKORY CREEK ROAD PHASE THREE. THIS CONTRACT, THIS PROJECT IS UNDER CONTRACT, BUT WE'RE USING THAT COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM TO TO LINE UP OUR CASH FLOWS.

SO WE'VE ALREADY ENTERED IN THE CONTRACT, BUT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COUPLE OF YEARS OF ISSUANCE TO COMPLETE THAT THAT PROJECT AS WE MOVE THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN AGAIN, SIDEWALK PROGRAM, WE HAVE $2 MILLION NEXT YEAR FOR SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION.

AND BECKY IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON PUBLIC WORKS, TRAFFIC AND ENGINEERING OK COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S KIND OF ENCOMPASSES A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BOND CONVERSATION, TOO.

BUT I'M ASKING JUST A VERY GENERAL WAY, AND IF I NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, I CAN.

BUT I THINK YOU'LL GET WHAT I'M SAYING.

I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT THESE PROJECTS TAKE A LONG TIME, THAT THEY TAKE A LONG TIME TO DESIGN.

THEY TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET THE FUNDING IN PLACE.

THEY TAKE A LONG TIME TO BID.

AND THAT SOMETIMES IT'S KIND OF LIKE PUSHING A PIECE OF STRING TO GET ONE OF THESE BIG STREETS PROJECTS ACCOMPLISHED, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH A STREET PROJECT AND A UTILITIES PROJECT AND ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO AT THE TIME ALL AT ONCE.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU AND FOR BECKY AND HER STAFF AND FOR ANYBODY WHO CARES TO ANSWER IT IS, IS THERE MORE THAT WE AS THE POLICYMAKERS CAN BE DOING TO FACILITATE THESE PROJECTS? IS IT A SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? IS IT A NEW FTE IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO AT THE TOP LEVEL TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN? BECAUSE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I HEAR ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM CONSTITUENTS AND ONE OF THE MOST VISIBLE THINGS THAT WE DO AND ONE OF THE CORE FUNCTIONS OF WHAT WE DO AS A CITY. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER IT'S TODAY OR WHETHER IT'S A DIFFERENT DAY OR SOME BETTER PROCESS.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW, WHAT CAN I DO AS A POLICYMAKER TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN, TO COMPLETE THESE BOND PACKAGES, TO GET THE STREETS BUILT, AND TO BASICALLY IMPROVE MOBILITY IN THIS CITY.

SO I'LL JUMP IN ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 2014 BOND PROGRAM.

WE'VE TALKED FOR YEARS NOW ABOUT THE DELAYS AND WHAT WE CAME INTO A FEW YEARS AGO AND TRYING TO GET THOSE UP TO SPEED.

SO THAT'S BEEN A HUGE EFFORT TO GET THERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY SEE THOSE DELAYS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, I TAKE THAT STREET, WE HAVE THE $17 MILLION FOR STREET REHAB THAT IS IN FIRST.

WHAT WE'RE SHOWING NOW IS STILL IN LINE WITH WHAT WE SHOWED DURING THE 2019 BOND PROCESS.

AND YOU COULD ASK, BECKY, WE'RE AS AGGRESSIVE AS WE COULD POSSIBLY BE, NOT BASED ON THE STACK THAT WE HAVE.

I'VE ASKED BECKY THE SAME THING.

CAN I IF I GIVE YOU THREE MORE PEOPLE, CAN WE GO FASTER? IT'S JUST THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE WE CAN GET OR ASPHALT WE CAN GET MATERIALS, WE CAN GET CONTRACTORS WE CAN GET ON BOARD.

WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS AND THE STRAIN THAT IT HAS ON THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY ROADS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SO I'LL TELL YOU ON THE STREET SIDE WHERE YOU SEE ON THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM IS AS AGGRESSIVE AS WE CAN BE.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAT COME OUT.

RYAN ROAD IS OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE WHERE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET HICKORY CREEK ROAD DONE FIRST AND DELAYING RYAN ROAD.

RYAN ROAD. SO I CAN ASSURE YOU FROM THE SAME OFFICE, WE'RE ASKING THOSE SAME QUESTIONS TO BECKY CONSTANTLY.

WE'LL GIVE YOU ANYTHING YOU NEED.

WE'LL, WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL AND ASK FOR ANYTHING YOU NEED TO GET THINGS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND I FEEL CONFIDENT SAYING WHAT YOU SEE NOW IS AS AGGRESSIVE AS WE CAN BE.

BUT, BECKY, CERTAINLY WE'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BECKY DE VINNY, CITY ENGINEER, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.

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I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT DAVID HAS SAID, AND I WOULD SAY REALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, OUR TEAM HAS REALLY WORKED TO DEVELOP KIND OF A MIND FRAME SHIFT.

I KNOW WE USE THE WORD HOLISTIC REALLY AS KIND OF CLICHE AT THIS POINT, BUT HONESTLY, THE WAY THAT WE'RE WORKING TO APPROACH PROJECTS AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE WORKING TO BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO REPLACE OUR ROADWAY, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT BE WATER OR WASTEWATER.

OUR TEAM IS COMMITTED TO DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE DELIVERED ON TIME.

AND I WOULD TELL YOU, TOO, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THAT ARE HELPING US.

EVEN FROM THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM PERSPECTIVE.

WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT'S WORKING THROUGH THAT PROGRAMMATIC APPROACH, LOOKING AT WHAT WE CALL THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION.

WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY GET THAT PROJECT COMPLETED? AND WE ALSO HAVE A CONSULTANT I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE CALLED OCI, ACTUALLY COMING IN AND EVALUATING EACH ONE OF THE BUDGETS AT THE TIME THAT THAT PROJECT IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO THEY'RE GIVING US THAT COMPLETE OVERALL SCOPE AND THAT BUDGET ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THAT PROJECT'S GOING TO TAKE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU, I ASKED MYSELF THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING.

I DRIVE THE COMMUNITY.

I PAY ATTENTION TO AS MANY THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN PUTTING FORWARD A LOT OF THE TOOLS TO THROUGH THE SIP MAP AND A LOT OF THE PUBLIC OUTREACH, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS SUCH THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO REALLY JUST TO TRY TO SHARE THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO GET THESE PROJECTS COMPLETED AS FAST AND AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COUNCIL AND THEN ALSO THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU TALK TO ANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, OUR TEAM IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO CREATE THIS BOOK THAT CASSIE WORKS SO HARD AND MATT, NICK, ETCETERA, AND DANIELLE TO HAVE THIS OVERALL SIP BOOK.

THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THAT WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO WORK THROUGH THAT APPROACH.

BUT WHAT I WOULD ALSO TELL YOU IS, IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORK ON WITH TECH.

START WITH WITH COG.

WE HAVE CONSTANT CONVERSATION AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OTHER PARTNERS THAT BE AND BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT ARE GOING ON THAT ALSO IMPACT AND WHAT THAT DOES FOR YOU, JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW I THINK ABOUT IT.

WHAT IT DOES IS IT HELPS EXPLAIN THAT IF 35 IS GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, I KNOW THIS IS A QUESTION THAT COMES UP A LOT AT MOBILITY COMMITTEE.

WHAT HAPPENS IF BONNIE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME? DAVID JUST MENTIONED HICKORY CREEK ROAD AND RYAN ROAD.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO AS WE VISUALLY HAVE MAPS, COORDINATION MEETINGS, CONVERSATIONS, MEETING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND TRYING TO WHEN WE GO INTO A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD AND WANT TO OR EVEN A STREET FOR THAT MATTER, AND WANT TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT ALL CAN BE DONE AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE THERE.

THAT COULD BE A SIDEWALK, A STREET LIGHT, A WATER, A SEWER, ATMOS GAS OR COORDINATING WITH FRANCHISE UTILITIES.

WE'RE COORDINATING WITH, OF COURSE, OUR STREETS DEPARTMENT, ETC..

SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE MOVING AND HAVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

AND I KNOW WE CONSTANTLY HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BECKY, TELL US WHAT YOU NEED.

AND AND TREVOR SITTING BACK THERE SHAKING HIS HEAD, SAYING, YES, I TELL BECKY ALL THE TIME EXACTLY WHAT I NEED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY WITH WHERE WE'RE MOVING.

AND I REALLY, HONESTLY WILL TELL YOU THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THE 2014 CLOSED OUT AND REALLY WE'RE FOCUSING IN ON THAT 2019 AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE PROGRAMING IT AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE EVALUATING IT, I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND ALSO FROM ENGINEERING.

AND I HOPE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ANY CRITICISM IN THE QUESTION.

IT'S MY JOB TO WHIP THE TURTLE, EVEN IF I HEAR FROM THE ANIMAL RIGHTS FOLKS FOR WHIPPING TURTLES.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY JOB, IS TO COMMUNICATE THAT FROM CONSTITUENTS AND FOR Y'ALL TO KNOW HOW ANXIOUS WE ARE TO SEE THESE PROJECTS CLOSED OUT.

AND I'M ANXIOUS FOR THAT SECOND LAYER, TOO, THAT YOU JUST REFERRED TO IS THE LONGER WE TAKE TO FINISH OUT 2014, THE MORE EXPENSIVE 2019 GETS.

AND WE ALL HAVE A STREET IN OUR MINDS THAT NEEDS REPAIR IMMEDIATELY.

AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE OS'S ARE FOR ALL THOSE STREETS.

AND IT'S MY JOB TO KEEP PUSHING.

SO I HOPE YOU DON'T HEAR CRITICISM IN THE PUSH UP.

YOU HEAR ENCOURAGEMENT.

ABSOLUTELY, SIR. NO, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN BURT? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO WANT TO COMMEND I'M ON THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE, AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON USING THIS PARTICULAR APPROACH.

AND YOU ALL PROMISED US THAT THE SOUTHEAST DID AN AREA WOULD BE THE FIRST AREA THAT WOULD EXPERIENCE THIS HOLISTIC APPROACH.

AND AS I DRIVE THROUGH THERE, WHICH I DO PRACTICALLY EVERY DAY, I'M JUST SO PROUD TO SEE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT GIVES THE COMMUNITY SOME ENCOURAGEMENT THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING HEARD AND NOW IT'S THEIR TURN.

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SO I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE HARD WORK INVOLVED IN THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN A COUPLE OF STREETS OVER THERE.

SO, YES, MA'AM, WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT, TOO.

BUT WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.

BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? WHAT'S. QUESTION ON.

I'VE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE STRETCH OF BONNIE BRAE FROM ROSELAWN TO I GUESS IT'S OUR 35.

I THINK THAT'S PHASE FOUR OR IT'S IT'S IN FRONT OF APOGEE STADIUM.

YES, SIR. THAT'S PHASE THREE.

PHASE THREE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE LAID ALL THE UTILITIES.

I BELIEVE THEY MOVED THE POLES.

DO YOU KNOW WHEN IS THAT? EITHER CONSTRUCTION IS SUPPOSED TO START.

HAS. SO PHASE THREE IS ROSELAWN TO 35.

I MEAN, THAT'S ACTUALLY STILL IN DESIGN.

SO THE WORK THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE WAS THE NORTH SOUTH WATER MAIN, WHICH IS A LARGE TRANSMISSION LINE AND THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS THE OVERALL BONNIE BRAE PHASE THREE PROJECTS.

SO THAT PROJECT IS IN DESIGN AND WE'RE REALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH TRYING TO GET TO CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

I WILL SAY I LIVE ON BONNIE BRAE AND I WATCHED EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE LAYING A 52 INCH WATER LINE.

AND YOU WONDER WHY THOSE PROJECTS ARE AS EXPENSIVE AS THEY ARE.

AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST REALLY DIGGING A HOLE, PUTTING A PIPE IN AND COVERING IT UP.

BUT WHEN YOU HIT ROCK FOR ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT FEET, TEN FEET.

SO REALLY COMMEND JUST THE CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE AND JUST HOW YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO PUSH THROUGH THAT, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE RAILROAD TRESTLE WHERE THEY HAD TO, I THINK, HAND JACKHAMMER THROUGH THAT AFTER IT BROKE SEVERAL BITS.

SO. OK JUST I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF GET AN UPDATE ON THEM.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM.

YOU BET. OC ANYONE ELSE? OC MAYOR PRO TEM.

I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS BECAUSE WE'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH VARIOUS LEVELS OF STAFF.

BUT COULD SOMEBODY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SORT OF DISCUSS AND UPDATE THE PUBLIC AND US HERE ON THE DIETS ABOUT THESE SORT OF ONGOING FEELING AND RUMORS THAT IF WE JUST PAID THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE.

THE COMPANIES THAT WE HIRE WOULD FINISH THIS TWICE AS FAST OR WHATEVER.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT SORT OF PROCUREMENT ANGLE AND VERSUS THE SPEED OF FINISHING A PROJECT? SO LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU, BECAUSE A COUPLE OF TIMES YOU CUT OUT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO HEAR APOLOGIZE.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

SO YOU'RE ASKING THAT OR INFERRING THAT IF WE PAID MORE FOR PROJECTS, THEY COULD POSSIBLY BE DONE AT A FASTER RATE.

THAT'S A COMMON PUBLIC IMPRESSION.

AND I'D LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICK AS AS WE ARE DISCUSSING BUDGET, SO SHOULD SHOULD WE BE PAYING MORE TO GET THESE ROADS DONE FASTER? IS THAT EVEN A THING I WOULD BELIEVE AND STATE TO YOU THAT AT THIS POINT WE ARE LOOKING AT INSTEAD OF PAYING MORE FOR PROJECTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY METHODS, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, OUR CSP, WHICH IS THE COMPETITIVE CELL PROPOSAL MODE OR THEN THE TRADITIONAL LOW BID MODE BY USING THOSE DIFFERENT MODES OF PROJECT DELIVERY.

THAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR US TO GO ABOUT THAT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT MAKE SENSE TO USE DIFFERENT MODES.

SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT BY USING THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK OR THE COMPETITIVE PROPOSAL, IT COULD COST AN INCREASED AMOUNT.

BUT IT MIGHT BE THE BETTER WAY TO DELIVER THE PROJECT JUST BASED ON THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

SO THERE'S NOT A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO BUILD A PROJECT AND HOW FAST WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

BUT THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE DELIVERY METHOD OF THE PROJECT AND THE WAY THAT THE PROJECT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED.

FROM MORE OF A PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING A CONTRACTOR WHO'S A LARGE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WHO COMES IN TO DO A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

THEY BEGIN DOING THE PROJECT WITH US AT 30%, WORK THROUGH THAT DESIGN PROCESS WITH US.

THEY'RE INVOLVED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, WHICH THEN COMPLETES TO BE A BETTER CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

FROM LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ANGLES, THEY HAVE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT ALSO THEN LOOKS AT SUBCONTRACTING THE WATER, THE SEWER, THE SIDEWALK.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A UTILITY CONTRACTOR VERSUS A PAVING CONTRACTOR VERSUS A CONCRETE CONTRACTOR.

SO THE PERSPECTIVE AND ANGLE THAT WE EVALUATE IT FROM IS MORE FROM THE PROJECT DELIVERY STANDPOINT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT DOES, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT WAS SORT OF THE ANSWER I ANTICIPATED, BUT IT'S HELPFUL TO BE OUT THERE SAYING THAT THAT NEED IS OFTEN INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT

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DESCRIPTION. SO AND AND ROLLED IN AND I JUST WANTED FOLKS WATCHING TO BE AWARE THAT YOU ARE DOING THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER MAGUIRE. THANKS.

I JUST LIKE CLARITY.

SO I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE 57 ABOUT GEO FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS AND I SEE 2 MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM. AND I JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE OTHER THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REHABILITATION, BONNEY BRAY, HICKORY CREEK ROAD, DO THOSE AMOUNTS INCLUDE THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THOSE ROADWAYS? AND THEN THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS SEPARATE? OR DOES THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM INCLUDE REPLACING SIDEWALKS ON ROADWAYS THAT ARE PART OF OF THE THE GEO BONDS? SURE. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A TWO PART ANSWER.

SO ON BONNIE BRAE AND HICKORY CREEK ROADS, THOSE ARE THE $2 MILLION IS NOT INCLUDED.

SO ON THOSE ROADWAY PROJECTS, THE OVERALL ESTIMATED COMPLETION DOES NOT USE THE 2 MILLION.

THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS, A PART OF THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD REHABILITATION PROGRAM THAT WE ARE USING SOME OF THE $2 MILLION BECAUSE IT MIGHT ALREADY BE A PART OF THE OVERALL SIDEWALK WORK PLAN WITH THAT PIE SCORE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO BRING TOGETHER ALL THESE PARTS AND PIECES.

WATER LINE, A SEWER LINE, A SIDEWALK, A STREETLIGHT.

SO THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE $2 MILLION, A PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE USED AS A PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DOING THE WORK WITH THE SCORE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SIDEWALK.

OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO ONE THING FOR ME, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO COST US, BUT SO FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN, IT'S BEEN EMAILS BETWEEN STAFF AND THE CITY MANAGER AND SHOUT OUT TO SENATOR SPRINGER'S OFFICE.

BUT THIS GROUP HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HOME DEPOT PROPOSED.

THEY HAD RAISED A RANCH AND A SIDEWALK ON 935.

WELL, I REACHED OUT TO SENATOR SPRINGER, AS I COMMITTED TO DO.

AND THERE'S A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED.

MY QUESTION IS FOR SURE.

AND THEN WE'RE HOPING TO GET MAYBE TEN OR HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

NO PROMISES. BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT.

IS THAT GOING TOO FAR? DO WE NEED WE'LL TEXT OUT, COVER THAT, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PARTICIPATE ON THE FIVE FOOT THAT WE KNOW THIS FAR? HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? SO TEXTILE WILL INSTALL SIDEWALK AS A PART OF THEIR PROJECT.

AT THIS TIME. THE CURRENT DESIGN ONLY INCLUDES A FIVE FOOT.

IF THE CHOICE IS TO BE THAT, IT TURNS TO A TEN FOOT, THE DEVELOPER AGREES WITH IT.

THERE'S COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION AND AGREEMENT WITH TECH START AND WE CAN COME TO TERMS WITH THAT.

IN SOME CASES, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL PIECE.

IN SOME CASES, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND WE'RE PLANNING, THEN WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL PIECE.

IN THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE CODE IN WHAT IT STATES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DEVELOPED AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE, BUT THEY WOULD BE DEDICATING THE EASEMENT FOR THAT ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK.

SO IT REALLY IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS TO BASED ON THAT DEVELOPER CONVERSATION WITH THE SPECIFIC PROJECT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE SOONER THAT WE WORK AND COORDINATE THAT PROJECT WITH TECH, START TO MAKE THE DESIGN MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED AS THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING THROUGH THAT DESIGN THE BETTER.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.

BUT IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE DEVELOPERS WILLING TO PARTICIPATE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT IMPROVEMENT FROM A FIVE FOOT TO A TEN FOOT SIDEWALK.

YEAH. NO. AND EVEN IF NOT, I SURE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING ME GET THAT KIND OF RESEARCH, THEN GET THAT IMPLEMENTED FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WALK WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, INTERFERING WITH GOING THE UNSAFE ROUTE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FINDING A WAY TO TO HAVE A SAFE ROUTE FOR THOSE FOLKS TO WALK TO THAT MAJOR RETAIL CENTER.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR PICKING THAT UP AND HELPING ME GET THAT DONE.

AND AGAIN, THANKS TO SENATOR SPRINGER AND PAUL FOR FOR THEIR HELP AND HEARING US AND UNDERSTANDING THAT NEED AND MOVING THAT FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO SO LET'S LET'S GET THROUGH THE IS IT RIGHT? SHOULD WE JUST FINISH EVERYTHING WE'RE CLOSE OR SHOULD WE DO THE PRELIMINARY DEBT RATE AND THEN TAKE A BREAK AND THEN DO THE POTENTIAL BOND ELECTION? YOUR THOUGHTS? I HAVE FIVE SLIDES LEFT.

SURE. LET'S JUST DO IT ALL.

SO PRELIMINARY DEBT RATE.

AND I DO WANT TO CAVEAT THAT THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY AND COULD CHANGE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, BASED ON OUR FORECAST, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE WE'RE BUT PRELIMINARY BUDGET INCLUDES A 10% INCREASE IN THOSE NON FROZEN

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VALUES. SO AGAIN THAT DEBT DEBT RATE, WE ARE FORECASTING A HALF PERCENT INCREASE NEXT YEAR FOR 23 WHERE YOU REALLY SEE THE LARGE INCREASES IN 24 AS WE'RE PLANNING FOR THOSE PROJECTS IN THE 23 BUDGET TO ISSUE DEBT FOR, THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE.

BUT I DID WANT TO ADD THIS TABLE TO THE RIGHT OF WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING IN THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

SO WE ARE STILL UNDER THAT CAP OF WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING THE DEBT RATE TO BE AS PART OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

SO IT IS GOOD NEWS THAT WE HAVE STAYED UNDER THE CAP OF WHAT WE TOLD CITIZENS WE WERE INCREASE THE THE DEBT RATE BUT STILL FORECASTING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS WE DEBT FUND ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.

AND SO WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE POTENTIAL BOND ELECTION.

SO WANTED TO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO SHOW YOU WHAT STAFF HAS KIND OF WORKED THROUGH AS WE GO THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS AND IDENTIFIED FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THESE WE'VE REALLY DETERMINED, WE THINK THE TARGETED PROJECTS COULD BE PARKS AND REC LIBRARIES, THOSE DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DONE.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY THE CONTINUED STREET IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND SO WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, SUBJECT TO COUNCIL DIRECTION.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE THE THE PROJECTS THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL FOR ANOTHER UPCOMING BOND PROGRAM.

SO YOU CAN SEE PARKS AND REC.

I NOTED EARLIER THAT WE HAVE THE DESIGN FOR THE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND INCLUDED IN THE FY 23 BUDGET, BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL BOND PROGRAM OR PROJECT ADDITIONAL LAND ACQUISITION.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PARK LAND ACQUISITION AND THAT COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO CONTINUING TO ACQUIRE LAND FOR FOR PARKS, THE TRAIL DEVELOPMENT SKATE PARK.

I WON'T READ THEM TO YOU, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE THE LIST THAT PARKS AND REC HAS PROPOSED AND THEN THE FACILITIES WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF TOUCHED ON THE SENIOR CENTER BUT STILL HAVE AN OUTSTANDING NEED WITH CITY HALL WEST AND WHAT HOW TO HOW TO IMPROVE THAT THAT FACILITY.

AND THEN ALSO SOUTH BRANCH LIBRARY AND MOVING THAT THAT LIBRARY LOCATION STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT SO THAT DRAINAGE PROJECTS THE THE PEC FOR PHASES THREE AND FOUR FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THEN STREET IMPROVEMENTS CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THOSE STREET IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE MOBILITY PLAN, THE MULTIMODAL APPROACH BIKE LANES AND THEN OF COURSE CONTINUING OUR STREET REHABILITATION.

AND I DID WANT TO NOTE WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ROADWAY FUNDING STRATEGIES AND HOW WE CONTINUE FUNDING THOSE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'LL BRING COUNCIL A COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION ON JULY 26 TO CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT STREET FUNDING.

AND WITH THAT.

I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, BUT AUGUST 6TH IS OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP.

BE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT BUDGETS AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

MAYOR OK QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS. COUNCILMAN WATTS, THIS IS ONE OF THE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE JUST KIND OF PUTTING A PIN IN IT KIND OF STATEMENTS.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, MAYBE IT'S IN THE BIGGER BUDGET CONVERSATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SALES TAX REVENUE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT A FUTURE SCENARIO WHERE WE HAVE THINGS FROM THE M&A SIDE SHIFTING OVER TO THE SEO SIDE, SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD TO DO LIKE BACK IN THE ZERO EIGHT TIME FRAME IF THE ECONOMY DOES NOT.

IF IT RESPONDS IN THE WAY THAT SOME FOLKS ARE THINKING IT DOES TO THE FED.

AND THE THING THEN WE MAY SEE SOME SOME EFFECTS IN OUR CITY BUDGET.

AND I KIND OF LIKE TO SEE STAFF'S THOUGHTS AND PROJECTIONS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN BE THINKING THIS FAR AHEAD, WHAT THE REVENUE SIDE STARTS TO LOOK LIKE IF WE DO HAVE A RECESSION AND WHAT OUR PLAN IS BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A FINITE LIMIT TO HOW MUCH DEBT YOU CAN REALLY CARRY AND HOW MUCH YOU CAN CO-FUND.

IF THE IF A FULL ON RECESSION WERE TO HIT WHETHER THE LAST ONE PRETTY WELL BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW KIND OF WHAT STAFF'S THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE THAT IN THE AUGUST 6TH BUDGET WORKSHOP.

I WILL SAY, JUST AS I'VE ALREADY KIND OF MENTIONED, THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IS BEST CASE SCENARIO.

SO I'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO REVENUE FUND WHAT WE CAN AS FAR AS CAPITAL MAINTENANCE WITHOUT SHIFTING IT TO THE DEBT RATE.

OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAVE A RECESSION AND THINGS CHANGE, WE MAY HAVE TO SHIFT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AS WE BRING THE BUDGET FORWARD.

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COUNSELOR. WHAT'S. THESE MICROPHONES, MAN.

I CAN'T GET THEM TO SORT OF PIGGYBACK ON COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS THIS QUESTION IN THE IN THE WHAT DO Y'ALL DO NOW? FIVE YEAR FORECASTS OUT ON THE ON THE BUDGET? YES. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CREATE ASSUMPTIONS FOR PROPERTY TAX RATE GROWTH.

IS THERE A WAY TO JUST I MEAN, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT IF IT'S LIKE, SAY, THREE OR 4%, IS THERE A WAY TO ALSO HAVE ONE WHERE IT'S LIKE SOMETHING EITHER ZERO OR BECAUSE I WAS HERE IN THE 2008, DURING 2008 AND IT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING.

BUT YEAH, JUST TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

SO MY QUESTION IS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEBT RATE, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S VERY PRELIMINARY.

IT'S NOT THE QUESTION YOU THINK IT IS.

SO THIS PRELIMINARY DEBT RATE IS BASED UPON A 10% INCREASE IN, I GUESS, CERTIFIED ASSESSED VALUES FROM LAST YEAR, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. SO IF IT'S IF IT'S HIGHER THAN THAT, HAVE YOU GOT SORT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT INCREMENTALLY THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? LIKE LET'S SAY, IF IT'S 12% OR I MEAN, DOES IT.

DOES IT KEEP IT THE SAME FOR 2023, BUT THEN CHANGE IT FOR 20? IS THERE ANY JUST JUST SORT OF A 50,000 FOOT LOOK? I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

IT REALLY KEEPS 23 THE SAME BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED THE DEBT FOR 22.

SO THAT ROLLS INTO THAT TAX RATE IN 23.

WHAT IT DOES IMPACT IS 24.

SO IT WOULD POTENTIALLY LOWER THE INCREASE NEEDED IN 24, BUT WOULD JUST HAVE TO SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

JUST CURIOUS. YEAH, YOU BET.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS? CNN SPORT ON THE PEC.

THREE AND FOUR DRAINAGE, SORT OF PRELIMINARY KIND OF PROJECTS FOR A POTENTIAL BOND PROGRAM.

WOULD THOSE PROJECTS YOU'RE ENVISIONING, WOULD THAT BRING MOST OF THE DOWNTOWN OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN? OR IS THAT OR IS THERE STILL SOME SEGMENTS THAT WOULD BE LEFT OUT OF THAT OF HOW YOU ALL ENVISIONED THE PEC THREE AND FOUR PROJECTS? IT BRINGS A LOT OF IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.

WE DID THAT ANALYSIS LAST YEAR AS WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AS WE WERE LOOKING FOR FUNDING OPTIONS AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS OVER THE SUMMER AS WELL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE TOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT BRINGS THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.

OKAY, GREAT. THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT. THANK YOU. GREAT.

THANK YOU. SO IT IS FOR JUST AFTER FOR WE HAVE JUST A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. SO LET'S TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

WE'LL BE BACK AT 420, TAKE UP THE LAST COUPLE OF ITEMS. THANK YOU. AND WELCOME BACK TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

IT IS 419 AND WE'RE FINISHING UP THE LAST WORK SESSION ITEM.

THEN WE HAVE THEY WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION JUST FOR THOSE TRACKING ALONG.

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: (1) A Work Session to discuss a neighborhood opt-in responsive speed limit sign program. (2) A Work Session to discuss the City creating Public Facility Corporations to partner with developers to develop affordable housing in Denton. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

BUT I'LL CALL THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS ID 22420 RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON PENDING CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS.

EVEN THEIR BENAVIDEZ ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

TONIGHT I'LL BE INTRODUCING THE CITY COUNCIL PENDING REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION.

MAYBE. THERE WE GO.

THE WORK SESSION PROCESS, UP TO SEVEN REQUESTS WILL BE REVIEWED PER MEETING.

ONE PER COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF WILL INTRODUCE EACH REQUEST.

THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT MADE THE REQUEST WILL HAVE UP TO 2 MINUTES TO DESCRIBE AND JUSTIFY THEIR REQUEST.

AND THE REMAINING ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL THEN HAVE UP TO ONE MINUTE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INDICATE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE USE OF STAFF.

TIME TO RESPOND TO THE REQUEST.

STAFF WILL RESPOND TO ALL REQUESTS WHERE A CONSENSUS OF COUNSEL IS ESTABLISHED.

AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE OPTION TO PRIORITIZE THEIR REQUEST AS HIGH, MODERATE OR LOW.

THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS A NEIGHBORHOOD OPT IN OR OPT IN RESPONSIVE SPEED LIMIT SIGN PROGRAM BY COUNCIL DAVIS.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

THANK YOU. IS THE CLOCK READY? YES. GOOD DEAL.

SO MY REQUEST IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I HEAR A LOT FROM RESIDENTS THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH SPEED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ACCESS TO FUNDS, WHETHER IT'S INDIVIDUALS OR HOMES AND THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE ACCESS TO FUNDS WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE.

AT LEAST ANECDOTALLY, THEY'VE TOLD ME THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN DRIVER FEEDBACK OR RESPONSIVE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.

THESE ARE JUST THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS THAT TELL YOU WHAT SPEED YOU'RE GOING AND WHAT THE SPEED THAT YOU SHOULD BE GOING IS.

AND THOSE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT MAKES AND MODELS, BUT I THINK IF THE CITY WERE TO ALLOW NEIGHBORHOODS TO START PARTICIPATING IN THAT, THAT WE'D WANT TO MONITOR THE PROGRAM AND

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SET IT UP TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF MODELS ARE OUT THERE.

AND THEN ALSO WE'D WANT TO MOUNT THEM OURSELVES ON OUR EXISTING POLES OR THE INSTALLATION SHOULD BE A CITY RESPONSIBILITY.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST EXPLORE THAT, THAT OPTION TO MAKE A TO SET UP A PROGRAM THAT NEIGHBORHOODS COULD PARTICIPATE IF THEY DO HAVE SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE.

I'M NOT MAKING A BIG ASK, I DON'T THINK, FOR THE CITY TO ESTABLISH A BIG LINE ITEM FOR THESE AS WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THESE PROJECTS OUT THE DOOR AND WE HAVE THESE OTHER INITIATIVES, I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO ASK FOR A BIG, BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE FROM THE CITY FOR THESE.

BUT IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL, THIS COULD BE A PILOT PROGRAM IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT EVENTUALLY EXTENDS TO SOME PLACES WHERE THE CITY COULD HAVE A GREATER DEGREE OF PARTICIPATION. BUT ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WHERE TO DEPLOY, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF COULD BE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE IN A WORK SESSION.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ONE COMMENT FROM MAGUIRE.

YES, SPEEDING IS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE CONCERN FOR ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS IT IS ROADWAY DESIGN.

BUT THAT'S A BIG, EXPENSIVE, TIME CONSUMING UNDERTAKING AND THESE FEEDBACK SIGNS HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE PRETTY DARN EFFECTIVE AND VERY COST EFFECTIVE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S REVENUE NEUTRAL.

I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN. I'M GOOD.

ANYONE ELSE? MEMBER G.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HEARD THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN.

I RECOGNIZE IT AS AN ISSUE AND AS A TRUCK DRIVER.

WE DO FOR A LIVING WHO SOMETIMES DELIVERS FREIGHT IN THIS GREAT CITY.

IT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR ME AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR THIS TWO MINUTE PITCH.

ABSOLUTELY. IN SUPPORT OF ANYONE ELSE.

THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT.

AND I ALSO WOULD APPRECIATE A HIGH PRIORITY ON ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE WE'RE UNDERGOING A SPEED STUDY AT THIS POINT.

SO MAYBE THIS CAN BE CONNECTED INTO THAT SPEED STUDY AND BE ABLE TO PUSH ALONG THOSE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE HIGHWAYS AND SPECIAL FUNDING AND PERSONALIZED FUNDING AND THAT KIND OF THING TO HAVE AN EQUITY FEEL ALONG WITH THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

YEAH. I'LL JUST ROUND IT OUT AND SAY I ALSO SUPPORT IT AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT INTEGRATED WITH THE SPEED STUDY.

AND I GIVE IT A MEDIUM. AND THE NEXT TIME.

WELL, AND THEN JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M SUPPORTIVE.

I JUST DON'T NEED TO SPEAK.

OKAY. OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

I JUST RESHARE MY SCREEN HERE.

SORRY. HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

CONTROL. DELETE.

SHARE. OKAY.

THERE WE GO. THE SECOND ITEM IS A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS THE CITY CREATING A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO PARTNER WITH DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DENTON. THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY COUNCILMEMBER WATTS.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

I'M TRYING TO GET USED TO MIKE.

OKAY. YEAH.

I WANTED TO BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD TO CHECK ON IF I HAD SUPPORT FOR A WORK SESSION.

BASICALLY, WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST HOW IMPORTANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IN OUR CITY, AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE LAST EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT CAME BEFORE THE CITY AND IT'S COMING FOR US TONIGHT, ACTUALLY, THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, DENTON HOUSING AUTHORITY WASN'T ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THEM AT THE TIME, WHICH IS OKAY.

THAT'S THE DECISION THAT OBVIOUSLY THEIR BOARD CAN MAKE BASED UPON THEIR CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE TIME.

AND THE THE DEVELOPER WAS FORCED TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO FIND A PARTNER TO PROVIDE FOR THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM THAT THEY WERE THAT THEY WERE APPLYING FOR. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE A WORK SESSION THAT EXPLORES THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL PROS AND CONS OF THE CITY BEING ABLE TO CREATE A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION THAT WHEN IF A TIME COMES WHEN WE WOUND UP IN THIS SAME SITUATION AGAIN, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.

PLUS, AS A REAL PARTNER, WE ONLY GET AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON THAT AS FAR AS RESOLUTION, UNLESS THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOME TYPE OF ENTITLEMENT.

AS A DIRECT PARTNER, WE CAN MORE SPECIFICALLY TAILOR THE PROJECT TO THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BOTH IN UNIT TYPE RENTS, POSSIBLY LOCATION AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST BE ABLE TO EXPLORE THAT, WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT OR NOT.

I JUST THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS ON THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY THINK IT'S WORTH US LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP OUR RESIDENTS WITH AFFORDABILITY. THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS FROM DAVIS?

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THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M VERY OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION.

I'M NOT SURE.

I MEAN, THE CONVERSATION KIND OF DICTATES WHERE I'LL END UP AT THE END OF IT.

BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE IF WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED SET OF OPTIONS RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A PRIORITY, AND WE WANT TO HAVE ALL THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE THE AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING.

I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE, SO I SUPPORT THE REQUEST.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN.

MAGUIRE. COUNCILMAN.

MCGEE. I HAVE A FEW RESERVATIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE I CAN EXPRESS THOSE RESERVATIONS.

SO I WANT TO HAVE THE WORK SESSION.

OK. COUNCILOR MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL BE FOR THEM.

I'M VERY OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION.

OBVIOUSLY I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WHICH WE'LL GET INTO AND WORK SESSION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISN'T AN END RUN AROUND.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT SHOULD BE OPERATING SEPARATE AND APART FROM US AND SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING WELL SO THE DEVELOPERS COULD GO THAT ROUTE.

BUT I'M VERY OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION TO SEE WHAT OUR LEGAL OPTIONS ARE IN THAT AREA.

SO THANK YOU, MR. WATSON.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE COMES FROM BERT.

I'M CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP FOR US TO TO WORK THROUGH THIS.

YEAH. THAT THAT PROJECT THAT CAME THROUGH.

JUST HAVING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE BRINGING THESE PROJECTS, THEY HAVE A TIME FRAME.

SO THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH UNDER THE GUN TO FIND SOME SUPPORT SOMEWHERE.

SO EVEN IF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS A PLAN B FOR DEVELOPERS THAT COME THROUGH IN IN, IN HUD DOESN'T DIDN'T COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE THE RIGHT SPACE AT THE TIME.

AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A PLAN B OPTION AND CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT I'M SEEING IT AND I'LL CERTAINLY SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ANYONE ELSE. THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO.

AND CAN YOU SUMMARIZE THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE IT IN MY MIND.

BUT IF YOU COULD TALLY THAT THAT LAST ONE.

THE LAST ONE I GOT FOUR YESES.

DAVIS, MAGUIRE, MCGEE AND BYRD.

PERFECT. OK. THAT TAKES US.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION.

IF I'M WRONG. IF I'M RIGHT, YOU ARE CORRECT.

OKAY, GREAT. THEN I THINK THAT TAKES US TO OUR CLOSED SESSION.

WE HAVE FOUR, AND SO STAFF NEEDS ABOUT 5 MINUTES TO SET UP EVERYTHING.

AND SO WE'LL TAKE AND DINNER'S HERE.

SO LET'S DO THAT. SO LET'S DO A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

DOES THAT GIVE US ENOUGH TIME, YOU THINK? YEAH. SO AND ALSO WE CAN EAT IN HERE BECAUSE WE'LL BE HIDING FROM THE CAMERA, SO WE DON'T NEED AS LONG AS A BREAK.

SO LET ME GET THERE TO CALL IT.

BEAR WITH ME.

I HAVE IT HERE.

YEAH. HE JUST.

HERE WE GO. SO IT'S I WILL CONVENE THE CLOSED SESSION AT 4:30 P.M.

[1. Closed Meeting:]

AND WE WILL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551071.

THAT'S THE ONLY CITATION, RIGHT? GREAT. AND SO THEN WE'LL BE BACK IN CLOSED SESSION AT FOUR.

440. SO GIVE US 10 MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

IT IS 631 AND ON JUNE 28, 2022, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG.

PLEASE STAND WITH ME AND IF YOU'RE ABLE.

OPPOSED TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INTO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

OK. THAT TAKES US TO OUR PRESENTATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AND IF WE COULD REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR ADDRESSING

[2. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

COUNCIL. THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM.

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SPEAKERS WILL HAVE 4 MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND 4 MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT.

A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED.

IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING.

IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS.

IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NON SCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NON SCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NON SCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY.

SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

THANK YOU. IN ADVANCE.

COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY.

GREAT. OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS STEVEN DYLAN BURKE.

I'LL GIVE HIM A BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE BUILDING HERE.

STEVEN DYLAN BURKE.

OKAY. WELL, GO TO THE NEXT PERSON, WHICH IS WANDA BOWMAN OR BOWMAN? BOWMAN. WONDER BAUMAN ONE MORE TIME.

OKAY. THEN NEXT IS DAVID COMPOST OK.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME, I'LL GIVE YOU A NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 4 MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A TIMER HERE? YES, THEY'LL PUT IT.

IT SHOULD. IT'LL SHOW UP THERE.

YEAH. CAN YOU SEE THAT? MY NAME'S DAVID CAMPOS.

I LIVE AT 2118 STELLA STREET, DENTON, TEXAS, 76 201 CITY COUNCIL.

IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A COMMUNITY.

I'M SORRY. IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD.

COMMUNITIES FOSTER ENVIRONMENTS THAT PROMOTE THREE ASPECTS OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT COGNITIVE, PHYSICAL AND SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL.

DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SUPPORT WORK TOGETHER TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION OF RAISING BALANCED AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THE BIGGER PICTURE FOR OUR SOCIETY. HOMES AND SCHOOLS COORDINATE EFFORTS TO STRENGTHEN COGNITIVE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY RECEIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT WITH SPORTS PROGRAMS. HOWEVER, WE BECOME DIVIDED WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS OF SOCIAL EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE SOCIAL EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS A COMPLEX VARIABLE THAT IS HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY OUR INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES AND THE WAY WE RESPOND TO THEM.

EXPLORING AND UNDERSTANDING THE EXPERIENCES THAT SHAPED US.

HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW WE VIEW THE WORLD TODAY.

BUT THOSE MEMORIES ALSO HOLD DAEMONS, MONSTERS AND DRAGONS THAT WE MAY NOT BE PREPARED TO CONFRONT YET.

THE GROUNDBREAKING 1998 STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE CDC AND KAISER PERMANENTE EXPOSED ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES AS A DISEASE THAT CORRODES US AND SPREADS THROUGH OUR COMMUNITIES. ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, WHICH ARE ALSO KNOWN AS ACES, MANIFEST AS THREE TYPES OF ABUSE PSYCHOLOGICAL, PHYSICAL AND SEXUAL, AS WELL AS IT INCLUDES HOUSEHOLD DYSFUNCTIONS SUCH AS SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MENTAL ILLNESS, DOMESTIC ABUSE OF CARETAKERS AND CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.

TWO OF THREE ADULTS REPORTED THAT THEY EXPERIENCED AT LEAST ONE TYPE OF ACE BEFORE THEY TURNED 18.

ONE IN SIX REPORTED THEY HAD EXPERIENCED FOUR OR MORE ACES.

THE STUDY TELLS US THAT CHILDREN ARE AT GREATER RISK THAN OTHERS AND THAT WOMEN IN RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS WERE AT GREATER RISK FOR EXPERIENCING FOUR OR MORE ACES.

WITH EACH CASE, EACH AGE INCREASES THE ODDS OF LASTING NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON HEALTH, WELL-BEING AND LIFE OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS EDUCATION.

JOB POTENTIAL. ACES INCREASE THE RISK OF INJURY, SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS, MATERNAL AND CHILD HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT INCLUDE TEEN PREGNANCY AND PREGNANCY COMPLICATIONS.

ACES, INCREASED INVOLVEMENT IN SEX TRAFFICKING AND A WIDE RANGE OF CHRONIC DISEASES AND LEADING CAUSES OF DEATHS SUCH AS CANCER, DIABETES, HEART DISEASE AND SUICIDE.

CHILDREN GROWING UP WITH TOXIC STRESS MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY, DIFFICULTY FORMING HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS, AND AS ADULTS, THEY'LL LATER STRUGGLE WITH UNSTABLE WORK HISTORIES,

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FINANCES AND DEPRESSION THROUGHOUT LIFE.

THE CDC ESTIMATES THAT UP TO 1.9 MILLION HEART DISEASE CASES AND 21 MILLION DEPRESSION CASES COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED HAD WE ONLY TAKEN PROACTIVE ACTION.

TRAUMA HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS AN INVISIBLE EPIDEMIC FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE. TRAUMA DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE.

TRAUMA TRANSCENDS RACE, ECONOMIC STATUS, AGE AND GENDER.

TRAUMA DOES NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE.

SECOND, TRAUMA THRIVES IN DARKNESS.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SUFFERING OUT LOUD, BUT THERE ARE ALSO THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING IN SILENCE.

ACCORDING TO THE STATISTICS FROM THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER OF NORTH TEXAS, ONLY 20% OF VICTIMS OF CHILD ABUSE REPORT THE PROBLEM.

WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THE 80% THAT ARE THAT ARE NOT.

HOW DO WE FIGHT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T SEE? THE SOLUTION IS THE SAME MESSAGE THAT FRED ROGERS WAS TRYING TO TELL US ALL THESE YEARS.

IF IT'S MENTIONABLE, IT'S MANAGEABLE.

THROUGH AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, WE CAN ENRICH THE CIRCLES OF SUPPORT THAT SURROUND A CHILD.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS THING THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO THINK ABOUT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN.

IT'S TIME TO TAKE ACTION.

TOGETHER WE CAN FIX.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PHILIP YOUNG.

I'M PHILIP YOUNG AND LIVE AT 2041 SCRIPTURE ST ARRIVING IN DENTON 42 YEARS AGO.

I NEVER IMAGINED IT AS A CITY WHERE THERE WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OPENLY ADVOCATING FOR REBELLION AGAINST THE STATE OF TEXAS AND GIVEN THE UNSETTLED STATE OF AFFAIRS IN OUR BELOVED CITY.

I AM URGING YOU TO PUSH THE PAUSE BUTTON WITH RESPECT TO HIRING A NEW CHIEF OF POLICE UNTIL WE ACHIEVE A MORE SETTLED STATE OF AFFAIRS.

IN 2004, I OBSERVED THAT LAW AND ORDER WAS BREAKING DOWN IN DENTON, AND I CONFRONTED DENTON POLICE CHIEF CHARLES WILEY ABOUT THE PROBLEM.

HE INFORMED ME THAT THE CITY HAD NOT HIRED A NEW PATROL OFFICER IN EIGHT YEARS, IN SPITE OF THE RAPID POPULATION GROWTH.

AT THAT POINT, WHEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD BEEN LARGELY FOCUSED UPON FUNDING LOCAL CHARITIES, I INITIATED A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN TO HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS, AND THE COUNCIL ACHIEVED A CONSENSUS THAT PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD BE DENTON'S TOP PRIORITY AND THAT WE WOULD EXPAND OUR POLICE FORCE.

AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THREE TERM MAYOR JULIAN BROCK WALKING OUT OF THAT COUNCIL MEETING AND TELLING ME, PHILIP, YOU DID A GOOD THING.

I HAVE NEVER BEFORE SEEN THE COUNCIL COME TOGETHER SO UNANIMOUSLY ON ANYTHING.

THAT IS WHAT I CALL THE DENTON WAY CONVERSATION AND CONSENSUS VERSUS CONFLAGRATION.

AS A NATIVE OF DETROIT, I WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE CITY ERUPT IN ANARCHY IN 1967, WHEN 25% OF THE CITY WENT UP IN FLAMES.

SO I COULD SEE IN 2004, AS I DO TODAY, THE CANARY IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COAL MINE WARNING DANGER AHEAD, MAINTAINING LAW AND ORDER ON OUR STREETS AS OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE.

AND WHEN RESIDENTS REFERRING TO CAROL BOULEVARD AS THE AUTOBAHN BECAUSE OF THE DRAG RACING THERE, I SEE MUCH TROUBLE AHEAD AS WE ATTRACT MORE AND MORE LAWLESS INDIVIDUALS TO OUR CITY.

AND WHILE THE COUNCIL DID A BRILLIANT JOB OF JERRY RIGGING CITY LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR WHEN WE LOST CITY MANAGER TODD HILEMAN, IT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE TO MAKE THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT PERMANENT.

WE ARE ALL INDEBTED TO CITY MANAGER SARAH HENSLEY AND POLICE CHIEF FRANK DIXON, NOW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, FOR HOLDING THINGS TOGETHER UNDER VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.

BUT NOW IT IS VITAL THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON SERVING DENTON AS CHIEF OF POLICE.

IF MR. DIXON IS WILLING TO FOCUS HIS FULL ATTENTION UPON THE HERCULEAN TASK OF RESTORING LAW AND ORDER TO DENTON WITH LIMITED HUMAN RESOURCES, I WOULD BE DELIGHTED FOR HIM TO KEEP THE RAISE BECAUSE HE EARNED IT.

BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK TO BRING IN A CHIEF OF POLICE WHO WILL BE SUPERVISED BY HIS PREDECESSOR.

AND IT IS VITAL IN AVOIDING THE KIND OF BUREAUCRATIC LAW ENFORCEMENT NIGHTMARE WHICH WE WITNESSED RECENTLY IN UVALDE THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY MANAGER WITHOUT A MID-LEVEL MANAGER BETWEEN THEM CREATING POTENTIAL CONFUSION.

SO I URGE ALL OF YOU TO STOP, LOOK AND LISTEN BEFORE YOU CROSS THE STREET.

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WE NEED A LOT MORE CONVERSATION IN DENTON IN HOPES OF REACHING A CONSENSUS ON THE ISSUE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT BEFORE WE HIRE ADDITIONAL LEADERS.

AND WE MUST EXERCISE GREAT CAUTION IN PORTRAYING AN IMAGE OF DENTON AS A CITY WHERE ENFORCEMENT WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AN ARBITRARY DECISION BASED UPON THE WHIMS OF THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL.

IF WE ENCOURAGE LAWLESSNESS IN DENTON, WE WERE ALL PAY THE PRICE IN TERMS OF RAMPANT CRIME.

AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPOKEN WITH GOVERNOR ABBOTT FACE TO FACE MULTIPLE TIMES, I FEEL COMPELLED TO WARN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE GUILTY OF PROMOTING LAWLESSNESS BASED UPON THEIR PERSONAL PREFERENCES, THAT YOU MAY BE VERY SURPRISED TO END UP IN JAIL.

LIKE MANY OF THE JANUARY SIX RIOTERS AT THE US CAPITOL WHO VIEWED THEMSELVES AS PATRIOTS WHILE BREAKING THE LAW.

IT IS ALREADY DIFFICULT TO ATTRACT QUALITY.

THAT'S YOUR TOP APPLICANT FOR FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

LET'S NOT MAKE MATTERS WORSE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EVER GRECO.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

EVA GRECO, 802 WAS THE OAK STREET.

IT'S OKAY TO WRITE.

I'LL GET IT. SO EVERY WEEK.

OKAY. YEAH, I RESPONDED.

AND YOU CAN RESTART IT.

OKAY. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. THANK YOU. SOMETHING CAME UP THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS BECAUSE IT REALLY, REALLY INFURIATES ME AND ALL THE THE ISSUE IS ALL THE ADDITIONAL POLICE HERE OK ON.

THAT'S PART OF MY MONEY.

THE GOOD PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, THAT'S OUR MONEY.

OK BECAUSE YOU'RE A LITTLE AFRAID.

WE HAVE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS, A LITTLE AFRAID OF PEOPLE SPEAKING THEIR MIND.

AND THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.

YOU'RE WASTING OUR MONEY AGAIN.

THE OFFICER WHO'S AT THE MEETING, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.

HE TRIED TO GIVE ME A REASON WHY IT IS NOT AN EXPLANATION, BUT A REASON FOR THE EXTRA POLICE OFFICERS. BUT I'VE BEEN AT WORK SESSIONS AND WE USE A BREAK TO EAT.

THAT SECURITY OFFICER IS RIGHT BACK THERE IN THE OTHER ROOM EATING.

I'VE TAKEN PICTURES OF HIM EATING WHEN HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING SECURITY AT A COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS IS OUR MONEY.

SO THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT HOW YOU KEEP WASTING IT.

MY NEXT ITEM IS I'VE BEEN COMING TO MEETINGS ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND THERE'S ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS OUTWARDLY SPOKEN ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND HOW HE HATES IT, THE FIX ROUTES.

AND THEY GOT TO GO AND THEY GOT TO GO AND HE'LL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER, THIS AND THAT AND ALL THAT INDIVIDUAL'S MAYOR AT THAT TIME.

NOW, HE'S NOT MAYOR.

HE'S COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS, LITERALLY RANTING AND RAVING, MIGHT FEEL HIS FEELINGS ARE HURT.

AND THIS ONE SAID THIS ABOUT HIM.

THAT ONE SAID THAT ABOUT HIM.

OK ATTACKED, VERBALLY ATTACKED CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS.

OK. WHEN YOU HAVE A BUS COMPANY THAT IS ELIMINATING BUSSES, THAT'S AN ATROCITY TO ALL THE CITIZENS.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, CHRIS WATTS, THERE IS A SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. DANA ZELLNER MAYOR.

MR. MAYOR. YEAH.

UNDER THE RULES, CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL INFORMATION? YES. MY STATEMENT OF FACTUAL INFORMATION IS THAT OUR DENTON POLICE HAVE RESPONDED TO AT LEAST ONE PHYSICAL ALTERCATION, AT LEAST OUTSIDE.

AND I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THEIR READINESS TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. DANA ZELLNER.

DANA ZELLNER.

OH, THANK YOU.

I'M SURE THIS IS NOT LOW ENOUGH.

MY NAME IS DANA ZELLNER.

I LIVE AT 610.

EMERY. ARE WE GOOD? YES. YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT.

IN TODAY'S FRACTIOUS SOCIETY, IT SEEMS THAT THE PREVAILING ATTITUDE IS, IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME, YOU'RE THE ENEMY.

I FIND IT DISTURBING THAT ALL GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES HAVE LOST THE ART OF CIVIL DISCOURSE AND HOPE THAT SOON THEY CAN COME AROUND TO BEING

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POLITE, RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S OKAY TO DISAGREE AND LEARN TO COMPROMISE.

MOST OF ALL, I HOPE THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL REALIZE THAT THEY SERVE ALL OF THEIR CITIZENS AND NOT JUST A SELECT FEW WHO WHO AGREE WITH THEM.

WITH THAT SAID, I CAME THIS EVENING TO PUBLICLY THANK.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S NOT HERE.

BRIAN BECK FOR HIS THERE.

OH, SORRY.

I DON'T LOOK AT THOSE THINGS FOR YOUR DISSENTING VOTE REGARDING EXPLODING FIREWORKS NEAR THE LINDEN.

THAT ANIMAL SHELTER.

AS A SHELTER VOLUNTEER, I CAN PERSONALLY BEAR WITNESS TO THE INCREDIBLE STRESS THE ANIMALS AT THE SHELTER ARE ALREADY UNDER, WHILE THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS ARE WONDERFUL, KIND AND CARING.

THESE ANIMALS ARE IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS EITHER NOTHING LIKE THEY'RE USED TO OR BROUGHT IN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED OR ABUSED.

ADDING TO THEIR STRESS BY INTRODUCING LOUD NOISES DURING A TIME WHEN THE SHELTER IS RELATIVELY QUIET IS CRUEL.

BRIAN, YOU CHOSE TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE, AND I THANK YOU FOR IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL, BUT IF NEXT YEAR KIWANIS HASN'T FOUND A MORE HUMANE PLACE TO PRODUCE THEIR FIRST WORTHY FUNDRAISER, I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOU WILL FIND IT IN YOUR HEART TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE AND REPRESENT MANY OF US WHO ARE CONCERNED FOR THOSE THAT CANNOT PROTECT THEMSELVES.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN I HAVE JAMES WILLIAMS. IF STAFF WILL PULL UP THAT CALL, PLEASE.

AND THANK YOU. MAYOR.

HE DID NOT CALL BACK INTO THE LINE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THAT? IS THAT. PARDON ME.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR NEXT SECTION OF OUR AGENDA.

THE CONSENT AGENDA, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE NOT ALL HERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A VOICE VOTE.

[3. CONSENT AGENDA]

AND SO READ MY.

SO WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE.

SO WE'RE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION. COUNCILMAN DAVIS, MAY I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILMAN BURT, SECOND.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS, I SEE YOU.

I COUNCILMAN BYRD I COUNCIL MEMBER MAGUIRE I COUNCILWOMAN MCGEE I COUNCILMAN WHAT I.

MAYOR HUDSPETH AS I COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM.

HIGH PAST THE SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO OUR NEXT SECTION.

WE GET THERE. BEAR WITH ME.

WHAT'S. OK FIRST AND ONLY PUBLIC HEARING.

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton approving a Specific Use Permit for a Multifamily Dwelling Use on approximately 11.891 acres of land, generally located on the east side of Woodrow Lane, approximately 1,365 feet south of East McKinney Street in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing for severability and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted (4-2) to recommend approval of the request. (S22-0002e, Pathway Woodrow Multifamily, Julie Wyatt)]

I'LL CALL THAT ITEM.

IT'S ITEM A SW 220002E HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND MULTIFAMILY DWELLING USE ON APPROXIMATELY 11.891 ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF WOODROW LANE.

APPROXIMATELY 1365 FEET SOUTH OF EAST MCKINNEY STREET IN THE CITY OF DENTON, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS.

AND I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT I DON'T FORGET OK.

GOOD EVENING. LET ME PULL UP MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

AND WHY ARE YOU PULLING IT UP? JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS.

AS WE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE AGENDA, ONCE YOU GET PAST THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS PORTION, ANYONE CAN SPEAK ON AT ANY POINT IN TIME, ONCE WE CLOSE, THAT WILL GO INTO THE SECTION

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FIVE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

THOSE ITEMS, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THOSE ITEMS, YOU WOULD NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD BEFORE I CALL THAT NUMBER.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONCE I GET TO ITEM A AND CALL THAT NUMBER, YOU ARE FORECLOSED FROM SPEAKING ON THAT.

SO IF YOU LOOK IN THAT BOTTOM, SECTION FIVE FOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS, THERE'S A THROUGH G. IF YOU WOULD DESIRE TO SPEAK ON THOSE THINGS, YOU WOULD NEED TO FILL THAT OUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT NUMBER.

ONCE I GET TO THAT NUMBER, CALL IT.

THAT DOOR CLOSES DIFFERENT FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW.

OPEN MEETINGS, ANYONE COULD SPEAK AT ANY POINT, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING.

JULIE WYATT, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF DENTON AND I'M PRESENTING SW $22 000 TO E TO YOU THIS EVENING.

THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO PERMIT MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ON APPROXIMATELY 11.89 ACRES WITHIN A SUBURBAN CORRIDOR ZONING DISTRICT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST EAST OF WOODROW, SOUTH OF MCKINNEY.

IT'S OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON YOUR SCREEN.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALSO A RIPARIAN BUFFER THAT CLIPS THE EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY OF THIS SITE.

SO THAT SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN, THAT RIPARIAN BUFFER IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION.

SO THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AND THAT CITY HAS REVIEWED INCLUDES 285 DWELLING UNITS, SIX THREE STORY BUILDINGS.

THE PROJECT INCLUDES OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION AREAS, A CLUBHOUSE POOL, DOG PARK AREA 476 PARKING SPACES, BIKE PARKING TO VEHICULAR CONNECTIONS TO DUTCHESS SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN CIRCLED IN ORANGE, ALSO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THE SURROUNDING SIDEWALK AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WOULD THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT DUTCHESS.

SO DUTCHESS DRIVE IS A MOBILITY PLAN ROAD THAT THAT ALIGNS WITH THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THEY WOULD DEVELOP OR THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT DUTCHESS FROM WOODROW TO THEIR EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

THAT ENTIRE SECTION AS PART OF THAT ROADWAY DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT A TEN FOOT SIDE PATH ALONG THE NORTH EDGE OF DUTCHESS, AS WELL AS A TEN FOOT SIDE PATH ALONG WOODROW.

AND JUST AS FAR AS THEIR SITE DESIGN, THE BUILDINGS ARE SITED TO TO DEFINE THAT STREET EDGE ALONG WOODROW AND DUTCHESS.

THOSE BUILDINGS ARE OUTLINED IN PURPLE ON YOUR SCREEN.

THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWS FOUNDATION PLANTINGS ON THE BUILDINGS AS WELL AS STREET TREES.

THEY ARE PRESERVING THAT AREA SO THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO IMPACT THAT EAST AREA.

THEY'VE ALSO STARTED WORKING WITH OUR OUR LANDSCAPE PLANNER, WORKING ON THEIR TREE PRESERVATION SO THAT THEY MEET OUR TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS.

SO WITH ANY PROJECT, THE FIRST THING WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE ANALYZING IT IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THERE ARE REALLY FOUR AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE, OUTLINED IN IN BLACK ON YOUR SCREEN, THAT'S WITHIN A MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.

TYPICALLY WE SEE ABOUT 4 TO 12 DWELLING UNITS WITHIN THAT MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE POPULATION DENTON IS GROWING.

OUR DENTON PLAN OR OUR DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED AND AS PART OF THAT IT INDICATED THAT DENTON IS GOING TO BE GROWING AND WE NEED ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH.

THIS PROJECT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT AS IT WOULD PROVIDE THAT NECESSARY HOUSING AND THEN AN INFILL AREA THAT'S ALREADY SERVED BY EXISTING ROADWAYS AND WATER AND SEWER NETWORKS TO ALLOW FOR THAT COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO TALKS ABOUT OUR PREFERRED LAND PRESERVATION AND THAT INCLUDES OUR ISA AND OUR FLOODPLAIN AREAS.

THIS PROPOSAL, WHILE IT IS ADJACENT TO AND THAT DOES CLIP THAT EASTERN SIDE, IT WOULD NOT IMPACT THAT ISA.

AND THEN FINALLY OUR HOUSING GOALS WITHIN OUR DEBT AND PLAN ARE SORRY OUR OUR DEBT IN 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE WANT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL RESIDENTS WITH A DIVERSE ARRAY OF HOUSING CHOICES AND TYPE COSTS AS WELL AS LOCATION, AND ALSO EXPAND THE AVAILABILITY OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN DENTON.

SO THE PROPOSAL DOES MEET OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS.

ALSO, WITH ANY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WE LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY NOT JUST WHAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE, BUT WHAT'S SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IN THIS INSTANCE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT IN YOUR MAP THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW AND THAT AND WE WANTED TO KIND OF ZOOM OUT AND SEE WHAT THE SURROUNDING

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CONTEXT IS.

SO IT IS ADJACENT TO WOODROW, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AND THAT'S A SECONDARY ARTERIAL WITHIN OUR CITY.

THE SITE IS ALSO NEAR A A REGIONAL ACTIVITY NODE.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COUNTY OFFICES THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WOODROW AND MCKINNEY, AND THIS IS CLOSE TO THAT, PROVIDING THAT NECESSARY MIX OF USES AND RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS WITHIN THAT NEAR THAT NODE OF ACTIVITY.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT MIX OF USE IS MULTIFAMILY IS REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF A MIXED USE AREA BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THAT NECESSARY HOUSING.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT CONSISTENCY WITH DESIGN.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN AN AREA THAT THAT HAS EXISTING MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY TO THE NORTH ALONG MCKINNEY, AND THEIR PROPOSED DESIGN OF GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS WITH ONSITE AMENITIES IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND DESIGN PATTERN WITHIN THE AREA.

THERE PROPOSED DENSITY OF 24 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS ALSO CONSISTENT.

AND THEN THE SURROUNDING ZONING, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF A OF A SUBURBAN CORRIDOR AREA.

SO WE ANTICIPATE ANY ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE USES AND DEVELOPMENT SCALE PERMITTED IN THE SUBURBAN CORRIDOR DISTRICT. SO THE PROPOSAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

WE ALSO LOOK AT ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND AND AND THAT INCLUDES TRANSPORTATION AND PARKS.

AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY SUBMITTED A TRAFFIC THAT WAS REVIEWED BY OUR ENGINEERING TEAM.

THE PROPOSAL WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 1900 TRIPS PER DAY BASED UPON THAT TIRE.

IT WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THOSE SURROUNDING INTERSECTIONS.

AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THOUGH, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT THEY WILL BE CONSTRUCTING THAT PORTION OF DUTCHESS AS WELL AS A DECELERATION RIGHT HAND TURN FROM WOODROW TO DUTCHESS AS PART OF THIS PROPERTY.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT TEN FOOT SHARED USE PATH FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND THEN SURROUNDING PARKS.

WE LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING PARKS.

WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE THINK ABOUT OUR PARKS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

PARKS IS WORKING ON THAT TEN FOOT TRAIL JUST WEST OF WOODROW LANE THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT THOSE EXISTING PARKS WEST OF THAT ROADWAY.

AND THEN OUR OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A PROPOSED TRAIL SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITHIN THAT FLOODPLAIN.

NOW, THAT'S NOT IMMINENT RIGHT NOW.

IT WOULD BE PART OF ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND THEY ALSO THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING THOSE ONSITE AMENITIES FOR FOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES.

A PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS SENT OUT.

THEY WE NOTICED FOUR FOR THIS MEETING AS WELL AS PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE NOTICES IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL.

THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT ADJACENT TO THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT DID HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, ONE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT 200 FOOT BOUNDARY.

AND THEN THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING LAST NIGHT WITH THE SAID THE NEARBY SEDONA COMMUNITY.

SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST IT DID HAVE.

IT WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR DENIAL.

THERE WAS A RECONSIDERATION AND IT DID COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

GREAT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

AND THEN DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL? JUST A11 SLIDE PRESENTATION.

SO AWESOME.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, NOT INTERIM MAYOR TIM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF.

SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ONE OF OUR STATEMENTS IN OUR IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS THAT IT WAS QUOTED TO US AS COMPACT.

IT WAS DESIRABLE TO HAVE A COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, WHICH INCLUDES EXPANDED AREAS OF MIXED USE OF BROADWAY AND HOUSING AND RETAIL CHOICES, RESPONDING TO CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS, MARKETING PREFERENCES AND REINVESTMENT AND INFILL AND UNDERUTILIZED AREAS OF THE CITY.

AND SO MY CONCERN IS HOW DOES THAT GOAL MATCH WHAT'S REALLY OCCURRING IN THAT SECTION OF THE CITY, WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY MULTIFAMILY? CAN YOU CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? WE MAKE SURE I HEARD YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY.

SO THE GOAL OF A COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND HOW MULTIFAMILY FITS WITHIN THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? BUT OUR GOAL IS NOT JUST A COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT A COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES A BROAD ARRAY OF HOUSING, RETAIL, DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS AND AND OTHER AREAS.

SO THERE'S A MIXED USE NOTION TO OUR GOAL.

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AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVING MUCH IN THE WAY OF MIXED USE.

IT'S PREDOMINANTLY MULTIFAMILY IN THAT AREA.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE ALIGNED, PLEASE.

SURE. SO THERE IS AN ADJACENT THE COUNTY PROPERTIES AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WOODROW AND MCKINNEY DOES PROVIDE THOSE EMPLOYMENT AND COMMERCIAL USES THOSE THOSE THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE WITHIN MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

AND THEN RESIDENTIAL IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF MIX OF A MIXED USE AREA.

OF COURSE, SINGLE FAMILY CAN DEFINITELY FIT WITHIN A MIXED USE AREA.

MULTIFAMILY CAN ALSO FIT.

AND REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IS A CONTEXT.

SO WHILE MULTIFAMILY MIGHT BE REALLY APPROPRIATE ADJACENT TO WOODROW, WHICH IS A SECONDARY ARTERIAL, IT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA AS YOU MOVE TOWARD THE EAST TO GO TO THOSE MORE LOWER DENSITY USES.

SO THIS THIS USE WOULD REALLY PROVIDE THAT TRANSITION FROM THE FROM THE EMPLOYMENT AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THAT RESIDENTIAL USE, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY USE AND THEN ULTIMATELY TRANSITIONING TO A LOWER DENSITY USE, ALLOWING FOR THAT TO SLOWLY DECREASE IN INTENSITY.

I OK.

I SINCE WE BRING THIS UP, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THE TRANSITION WE SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY ARE SORRY SINGLE.

ONLY TO THE WEST IS SOMEWHAT RETAIL AND MULTI USE MCKINNEY IN GOVERNMENT.

AND THEN IT'S ACTUALLY SORT OF WEIRDLY THE OPPOSITE TRANSITION OF WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IN SENSE AND I KNOW THAT OUR OUR OUR FUTURE LAND USE DESCRIPTIONS OF FUTURE LANDS MAP SORT OF DESCRIBE A TRANSITION FROM HIGHER TO LOWER EAST TO WEST.

BUT THAT'S SORT OF NOT WHAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE RETAIL ALONG THE LOOP TO THE EAST.

WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY IN SOUTHEAST DENTON.

WE HAVE MIXED USE ALONG MCKINNEY.

IT'S SORT OF NOT GOING ALONG THE EAST WEST VECTOR.

AND I, I'M CONCERNED THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE RUNS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE NOT THE KINDS OF TRANSITION THAT'S IN OUR GOAL WHERE WE SORT OF SMOOTHLY TRANSITION FROM ONE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN TO THE OTHER, BUT RATHER DROPS A LARGE DENSITY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY AND AND THEN MOVES OVER TOWARDS THE LOOP.

CAN YOU CAN YOU HELP ME RECONCILE THESE THESE DIFFERENT DENSITY AND USE GRADIENTS? CAN YOU REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION SO THAT STAFF CAN ANSWER IT SUCCINCTLY, PLEASE? YEAH. CAN YOU HELP ME? OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

I FEEL THAT WE'RE NOT MATCHING THAT GRADIENT.

AND SO CAN YOU HELP ME WITH DATA UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE MATCHING OUR GOALS OF OF TRANSITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS REGION.

SO, MAYOR, IF I COULD, TINA FERGUSON'S DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.

SO MAYOR PRO TEM BECKY RAISED A YOU RAISE A GOOD QUESTION AND EVERYTHING.

AND SO KEEP IN MIND, REMEMBER WITH RESPECT TO OUR DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHILE I THINK JULIE PROVIDED AN EXCELLENT RESPONSE PREVIOUSLY, THAT'S ALSO A HIGH LEVEL POLICY DIRECTION AND IS ONE THAT WOULD IDEALLY, AS JULIE POINTED OUT, BE MORE APPROPRIATE AND IN A MORE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT SETTING WITH RESPECT TO, SAY, CLOSER TO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA OR CLOSER TO OUR TRANSIT STATIONS.

YOU KNOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE THE THE DENSITY IS AS SUCH, WHERE IT'S NOT A 60 UNIT TO THE ACRE TYPE PROJECT THAT PROVIDES EXTENSIVE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT IN STRUCTURED PARKING IN THAT FORM.

BUT IT DOES SERVE AS SOMEWHAT OF A TRANSITION TOWARDS THE THE AREA TO THE EAST.

AND SO IT'S WHILE THIS MAY NOT WHOLLY 100% COMPLY, WE DO FEEL THAT IT STARTS TO PROVIDE FOR THAT TRANSITION AS WE MOVE FARTHER TO THE EAST.

SO. GREAT, GREAT OBSERVATION ON YOUR POINT.

AND AND I THINK TO TRULY MEET THAT COMPACT DEVELOPMENT TEST, WE WOULD HAVE A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY OPPORTUNITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

BUT I WOULD I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION AND WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS APPROPRIATE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CNN, WE HAVE A SPEAKER, NATE JOHNSON.

IF YOU CAN COME UP, YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE 4 MINUTES.

IS EVERYBODY DOING? MY NAME IS NATE JOHNSON.

MY ADDRESS IS 6109.

THOROUGHBRED 1210 TEXAS 762 TEN.

I'M STANDING IN. EXCUSE ME.

MY NAME IS NATE JOHNSON.

I DON'T TALK REALLY THAT LOUD, BUT MY ADDRESS IS 6109 THOROUGHBRED 12 DIN TEXAS 762 TEN.

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I'M STANDING HERE IN PROXY OF MY MOTHER, 82 YEARS OLD, WHO'S BEEN LIVING IN SOUTHEAST DENTON FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

THIS IS FOR THE DISTRICT ONE REP.

YOU DROPPED THE BALL AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN SOUTHEAST DILLON WHEN YOU WAS AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT.

YOU TOLD THEM AT THE MEETING THAT YOU WERE NOT OBLIGATED TO TELL THEM ABOUT THIS $61 MILLION PROJECT THAT WAS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S ONE.

THEN YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW THE HOUSES WERE DILAPIDATED.

HOW WAS RUN DOWN? WHAT? YOU DIDN'T TAKE TIME TO THINK THAT.

GIVEN THE CONDITIONS.

THAT'S ALL THAT THEY HAD.

AND IF THEY COULD DO BETTER, THEY WOULD DO BETTER.

SO I THINK YOU'VE DONE THAT SEAT A DISSERVICE.

I THINK IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THE ELECTION TIME COMES, NOT ONLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE THING SOUTHEAST DID IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WAS BIRTHED OUT OF QUAKER QUAKER TIME.

THERE WERE SOME THINGS YOU COULD COULD HAVE DONE, ALONG WITH RANDY HUNT, TO HELP THAT BECOME PART OF THE HISTORICAL.

BUT YOU DIDN'T DO THAT.

YOU ALSO VOTED FOR THEM TO PAY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT IS STRAPPED FOR MONEY, BUT YOU VOTED FOR THEM TO PAY HALF FOR THE SIGN TOPPERS.

THAT'S WRONG. THAT'S WRONG.

AND I'M HOPING AT THE NEXT ELECTION IN MAY THAT THEY MAKE YOU PAY FOR THAT.

ARE YOU? THANK YOU.

AND THEN IF THE APPLICANT IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME DOWN AND PRESENT THEIR ONE SLOT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT THE BLUE CARD.

OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME DOWN.

I'LL CLOSE THE OPEN SESSION.

OPEN, MIKE.

OKAY. GOT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH, IF YOU CAN. JUST FOR CONTEXT.

SO, JESSE, IF YOU COULD SET IT FOR 20 MINUTES, THEY WON'T NEED IT ALL.

BUT THAT WAY, IT'LL JUST MAKE IT EASIER TO TRACK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS JOEL POLLAK.

MY ADDRESS IS 19240 REDLAND ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.

I AM ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

WE ARE BRINGING 285 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WILL MEET THE INCOME NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS FROM 30% OF AMI TO 60%.

RENTS WILL START ROUGHLY IN THE MID FIVE HUNDREDS FOR A ONE BEDROOM ALL THE WAY UP TO 1600 FOR A FOUR BEDROOM HOME.

TYPICALLY, OUR RENTS ARE ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIX AND $800 FOR THE LARGER UNITS UNDER WHAT MARKET RATE UNITS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE FEEL THAT, A, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING QUALITY HOUSING WITHIN THE DENTON COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO SERVE THE NEEDS FOR RESIDENTS MOVING IN AND ALSO THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND LAST NIGHT WE TALKED TO OK, LAST NIGHT WE TALKED TO NUMEROUS INDIVIDUALS AT THE MEETING THAT WE HAD THAT YEAH, CLEARLY WERE DIDN'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE WERE DOING.

BUT I THINK IN FACT MR. JOHNSON AND I TALKED AT LENGTH AND AFTER WE LEFT THE MEETING THERE WAS A NICE CONSENSUS AMONGST THE RESIDENTS THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WASN'T IN CONFLICT WITH, LET'S SAY, THE GENERAL PLAN OF THE CITY, WHATEVER THAT TERMINOLOGY IS HERE.

SO IT'S 285 UNITS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 102 ONE BEDROOMS, TWO BEDROOMS, 111 TWO BEDROOMS, 51 THREE BEDROOMS AND 21 FOUR BEDROOMS. THE ONE THING THAT WE FOCUS IN ON AND THIS IS OUR AND I CAN HAVE MR. WOODSON SPEAK TO THAT WE FOCUS IN ON MAKING SURE THE FAMILIES AND ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE EDUCATED AND THAT THEY STAY IN SCHOOL.

SO AS A RESULT OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH WITH NOT ONLY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IN DENTON, BUT ALSO IT WILL BE ALLOCATED THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS OF $25,000 EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS.

SO THEY'LL BE FOR WORTHY KIDS, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY OR THEY COME FROM A AN ECONOMIC BACKGROUND WHERE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO

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COLLEGE, THAT WE WILL BE PROVIDING THAT ACCESS AND THAT ABILITY FOR THEM TO TO TO GO TO COLLEGE AND FURTHER THEIR EDUCATION.

SO THAT'S OUR MAIN GOAL, INCLUDING PROVIDING QUALITY, SUSTAINABLE, SAFE, CLEAN HOUSING.

AND WE DO THIS NOT ONLY HERE IN DENTON.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO BE A LONG TERM STAKEHOLDER HERE, WHICH WE WILL BE.

BUT WE HAVE DEVELOPED COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS THROUGHOUT TEXAS.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I'M OPEN TO ANSWERING THEM.

THANK YOU. ANYONE OH, SORRY.

COUNCILOR WATTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IF YOU COULD, I'M TRYING TO SEE ON THE 30% AREA, MEDIAN INCOME, THE 30%, WHAT IS THE UNIT MIX FOR THE 30%? I'M GOING TO BRING CARSTEN UP BECAUSE HE HAS THOSE DATA.

HE HAS THAT DATA.

SO SO I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

CARSON LOW 19240.

REDLAND ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.

I CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

ESPECIALLY AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE DENTON HOUSING AUTHORITY, THEY EXPRESSED THAT THEY PREDOMINANTLY WERE SHORT AND DEMAND OR SHORT ON HOUSING UNITS FOR ONE BEDROOM UNITS IN PARTICULAR. SO THAT'S WHERE WE FOCUSED THE PRIMARY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR 30% UNITS.

BUT I'LL PULL UP THE PARTICULAR MIX RIGHT NOW.

SURE. AND TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, SO AND THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVE SOME INPUT FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AS FAR AS WHAT IS THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY? WAS THAT UPON THE FIRST MEETING A YEAR OR SO AGO WHEN Y'ALL WERE JUST SORT OF INTRODUCING YOURSELVES AND INQUIRING THEN WHAT'S THE NEED HERE AND HOW CAN WE GO TO HELP? THAT IS THAT WHEN THAT OCCURRED, SO THAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED RATHER RECENTLY UPON WHEN WE REVISITED WITH THE DENTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND HAVE SINCE BROUGHT THEM IN AND INVITED THEM TO PROVIDE ALSO THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY EXPRESSED THAT THE GREATEST NEED THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS.

AND I THINK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WERE MORE OF THE ONE BEDROOMS AT 30%.

I MEAN I MEAN, PREDOMINANTLY THEY WERE ALL ALMOST ONE BEDROOM.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT HELPS ME.

YOU DON'T NEED TO PULL THAT UP SPECIFICALLY.

BUT WE DO HAVE A MIX OF.

YES, IN ALL THE UNIT UNITS, WHICH IS NOT LIMITED TO ONES, THOUGH THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE IN ONES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NEED IS.

GOTCHA. FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU. AND SO I'LL CLOSE THE OPEN, OPEN HEARING AND THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION OR QUESTIONS.

I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. LOOKING FOR A SECOND.

COUNCILOR BERT A SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR HUDSPETH SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BURT AND I WRITE THIS DOWN.

DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING ME FIRST.

SO I HAVE REAL CONCERNS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSITIONAL WEIRDNESS AND THE GRADIENTS KIND OF BEING OFF AND THE DENSITIES NOT REALLY ALIGNING IN THE AREA.

AND THEN THE IMPACTS FROM THAT WILL RESULT IN THAT IN ON THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT THAT WAS MENTIONED, THAT NOT TAKING ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY THE PEAK TIMES DURING PICKUP AND DROP OFF OF THE ADJACENT SCHOOLS, THE 86 KIDS THAT WILL BE PUT INTO RIVERA.

AND A PARTICULAR CONCERN FOR ME IS SORT OF IMPAIRMENT OF OUR BRAND NEW PREFERRED PRESERVATION PLAN.

WE DID NOT JUST LIMIT IT TO REPAIR IN AND EASES THAT THAT WAS NOT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL.

THE MAP WAS PREDOMINANTLY IN THOSE AREAS.

BUT WE HAVE THE MAP THAT THAT DISCUSSED THOSE.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE UNTOWARD TO TO BEGIN TO HAVE IMPACTFUL EFFECTS ON THE VERY FIRST LARGE DEVELOPMENT VOTE.

I'M ALL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE VOTED FOR TONS OF THEM IN VERY RECENT MEETINGS.

CLEARLY, THIS IS A HUGE CONSIDERATION.

BUT THERE'S THE RIGHT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE RIGHT LOCATION THAT HAS THE RIGHT IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'M I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THIS ONE IS IT FOR REASONS THAT I SORT OF GONE INTO.

SO I MIGHT SUPPORT THIS ELSEWHERE, BUT I DON'T THINK I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT AT THIS LOCATION.

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OK. COUNCILMAN.

MCGEE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AS I SAID IN THE MEETING LAST NIGHT, I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THAT THIS STARTED.

BUT I AM HAPPY TO SAY THIS HAS TURNED INTO AN EXAMPLE OF ONCE AGAIN HOW A DEVELOPER CAN PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.

AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT MR. WOODS, AND I APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE BUILT AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT.

AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU AT MY INVITATION FOR COMING TO SYDNEY AND LAST NIGHT TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU ALL MADE TO DO IT THIS WAY IN THE FUTURE AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

NOT ONLY WILL IT BE MY PLEASURE TO SUPPORT YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS AS LONG AS YOU ARE WORKING COHESIVELY WITH THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL ALSO BE BEHIND YOU.

WHICH IS WHICH IS THE POINT.

SO I WANT TO APPLAUD YOU.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH.

ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN BURT? I WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID, AND IT'S JUST GOES TO AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE IN THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND WANT TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR US HERE IN THE CITY, THEY ALWAYS NOTICE NOTIFY US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE COMING INTO THEIR AREA AND THEY WOULD ALWAYS WANT TO GET OUR OPINION ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY DO.

AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I MAY SUGGEST THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IN, LET IT FIT INTO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS LIKE.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO THIS PARTICULAR POINT IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST DENTON NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT DID NOT TRIGGER ME NOR THE CITY TO SUGGEST THAT WE NEEDED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING.

SO BECAUSE IT DID NOT FIT IN WITH IT DID NOT FIT IN WITH THE BOUNDARIES THAT WOULD HAVE TRIGGERED THAT INFORMATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T THAT I DID NOT WANT TO AND I DID NOT NEED TO AND I WASN'T OBLIGATED TO.

IT JUST DID NOT TRIGGER THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT DID NOT FIT IN A CERTAIN BOUNDARY AND THE SOUTHEAST DID AND WASN'T WASN'T A PART OF THAT BOUNDARY.

I FELT LIKE I JUST KIND OF HAD TO EXPLAIN THAT.

BUT MEANWHILE, I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A CHILD FOCUSED, CENTERED TYPE UNIT. IT IS GOING TO GO TO THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN? I'M A RETIRED TEACHER, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHERS.

SO WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT US TAKING CARE OF OUR KIDS AND OUR BABIES AND LOOKING AFTER THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY GROW AS HEALTHY AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE FACTOR. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I APPRECIATE THIS GROUP FOR COMING IN AND GIVING THE VERY BEST, AND I WISH YOU ALL LUCK ON ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT YOU TAKE ON IF YOU PROPOSE IT TO BE LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE GIVING US.

SO YES, I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT FACT.

AND I WILL PROMISE ALL OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT I'M JUST DOING THE VERY BEST THAT I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING FORWARD WITH A BETTER GROWTH AND THE BEST GROWTH THAT WE CAN FOR THE CITY AND ENVELOP AND INVITE EVERYONE TO COME AND LIVE HERE.

WE PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THAT, INVITING FOLKS TO COME AND LIVE WITH US.

AND THEN WHEN THEY GET HERE, WE'RE LIKE, IT'S TOO MANY PEOPLE.

SO IT IS NOT IN MY BACKYARD TYPE THING.

BUT IF THEY'RE HERE, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A PLACE TO LIVE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, OK COUNCILMAN WATTS.

AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO BY HAND BECAUSE.

YEAH, JUST SWITCHING THAT BECAUSE MY EYES, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO, COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S.

SURE. THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT THE 30% THE UNIT MAKES FOR THE 30% AND THE NUMBER FOR THE 30% AREA, MEANING INCOME UNITS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IS LAST FEBRUARY. DENTON CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE, I THINK IT WAS SIX RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT, SEVEN SEVEN RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UNIT MIX AND THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OF ALL THOSE UNITS, ALL OF THOSE COMBINED ARE NOT EQUAL TO THE 40 OF THE 30% AREA MEDIAN INCOME THAT

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THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDING.

SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT LOCATION, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE BRINGING AN APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN HERE THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO MAKE 30% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

WE GO OFF OF DALLAS AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT 89 TO 90000.

SO 30% OF THAT IS 27,000 A YEAR.

SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING IT, BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND THIS MEETS THE NEED SPECIFICALLY.

AND WE GOT THAT NEED SPECIFICALLY FROM THE AGENCY IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO'S CHARGED WITH PROVIDING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE PROJECT.

I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS TOO.

AS COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE SPOKE OF, SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET OFF ON THE RIGHT FOOT, BUT THE MARK OF A GOOD ORGANIZATION AND GOOD PROCESS IS WHEN YOU CAN GET BACK ON THE RIGHT FOOT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THAT.

APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS WHO GAVE THEM THEIR CANDID INPUT IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK TO IN COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? SEE NONE. MAYOR HUDSPETH, I.

COUNCILMAN BURT. I COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE.

I COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE.

I COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHAT I.

COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS, I.

MAYOR PRO TEM. TUCKER.

ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES 7 TO 1.

THANKS, GENTLEMEN. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT.

SIX ONE. IS IT SIX? OH, YEAH, SIX ONE. THERE'S ONLY SEVEN OF US.

I MISSED THE SCREEN ALREADY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

TAKES US TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas authorizing the execution of a Development Agreement with Legends Ranch Development, LLC, concerning the Legends Ranch Municipal Utility District of Denton County encompassing approximately 542.536 acres of land located north of U.S. Hwy 380, east of Nail Road, and west of Thomas J. Egan Road, within Division I of the Extraterritorial Jurisdiction of the City of Denton, Texas; and other related matters; and providing an effective date.]

THE FIRST ONE IS ID A.

PARDON ME? A ID 22859.

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH LEGENDS RANCH DEVELOPMENT LLC CONCERNING THE LEGENDS RANCH MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT OF CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOMPASSING APPROXIMATELY 542.536 ACRES.

OH, AND JUST BEFORE YOU BRET SO THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER THE WE WERE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUE WITH THE PHONE NUMBER TO CALL IN SO THE NEW NUMBER'S BEEN POSTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR THOSE WATCHING THAT WOULD LIKE TO CALL IN, CHECK THE WEBSITE FOR THE NEW NUMBER AND THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO CALL IN.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL SCOTT MCDONALD, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE THIS EVENING.

I WILL BE MAKING A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION.

ADDITIONALLY, THE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT, THE BUILDER AND THE CONSULTANT ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT THEY WILL NOT BE MAKING A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING AGAIN, TRYING TO RECOGNIZE THE ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

BUT WE'LL STAND AS NECESSARY.

I APPRECIATE THAT. SO JUST A BASIC OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING.

I'M GOING TO PROVIDE JUST A BACKGROUND ON WHAT THE MUD IS, THE LOCATION OF THE MUD, A BASIC CONCEPT PLAN OF WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS FAR AS THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND SOME NEXT STEPS ARE ACTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED FROM COUNCIL, AND ONE WOULD BE THAT OF AT LEAST ALLOWING FOR THE EXECUTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR A RESOLUTION OF CONSENT FOR THE PRIMARY MUD, WHICH IS THAT LARGER TRACK, WHICH I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOON, AND AS WELL AS ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL PROPERTY INTO THE MUD.

BASICALLY, YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR BACKUP IS AN OVERVIEW OF MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, HOW THEY ARE FORMED AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

I WILL NOT COVER THAT THIS EVENING.

I WILL SPEAK TO THIS, BUT IN PARTICULAR, THIS MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT LEGEND'S RANCH LLC CAME TO CITY STAFF IN 2019.

WE BEGAN THE CONVERSATIONS TO TO TO CREATE.

SO WE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES.

ULTIMATELY, THEY PROVIDED A PETITION.

WE BROUGHT IT BEFORE COUNCIL THAT WAS REFUSED BY COUNCIL SINCE THAT POINT IN MAY OF 2020, WHEN COUNCIL REFUSED CONSENT STAFF CONTINUE TO MEET.

WE WORK THROUGH TERMS OF AN AGREEMENT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL RELATED TO MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS AS LONG AS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO ON JUNE THE EIGHTH, CITY ACTUALLY RECEIVED AN ORDER FROM THE TCU GRANTING CONSENT FOR THE CREATION OF THIS MUD, WHICH

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ULTIMATELY RESULTS IN THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD BY.

RIGHT. TODAY WE HAVE THE DRAFT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHER POINTS OF THIS.

JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT AS TO WHERE THIS IS, THE MAP THAT YOU WILL SEE ON YOUR LEFT GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW SHOWING THE AIRPORT THE SPLIT 435 AND 380. THE VIEW TO THE RIGHT SHOWS IT BLOWN UP GIVES YOU KIND OF AN INDICATION I HAVE AN ITEM ON THERE HIGHLIGHTED FOR LEGENDS RANCH, WHICH IS IN YELLOW AND RED, WHICH IS THE OLD AH MEADOWS MUD, WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED A FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT FOR WHICH WE'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO A LITTLE LATER AND THEN INDICATING A POTENTIAL LOCATION FOR OUR FUTURE FIRE STATION, WHICH IS JUST SHOWN WITH A FIRE TRUCK.

THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH I'LL BE SHOWING YOU SHORTLY, REPRESENTS A TOTAL OF 542 ACRES.

THE 496 ACRES, WHICH WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY, HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH TCU.

THE 45 ACRES IS A PETITION THAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY ON JUNE 23RD, WHICH IS ADDING 45 ACRES TO THE MUD FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR 542 ACRES.

JUST ANOTHER PIECE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT I'LL DISCUSS IS THAT THE PROPERTY FRONTING OR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FRONTING ON 380 IS ALREADY IN THE CITY LIMITS AND THAT WILL BE FUTURE RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL.

BUT IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE DISTRICT AND IS IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

SO OVERALL, THIS WAS IN YOUR BACKUP.

THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.

I'LL SPEAK TO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OF WHAT THIS IS.

SO THE YELLOW AREAS THAT YOU SEE ULTIMATELY THIS IS EXCUSE ME, THE RED BORDER IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT THE 542 ACRES IN ITS ENTIRETY, THE THE BLUE AREA WHICH IS MARKED TRACK DX ON THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THIS DIAGRAM IS THE ADDITIONAL 45 ACRES THAT IS BEING ASKED TO BE ADDED TO THE MUD SO IT WOULD BE ANNEXED INTO THE MUD. AND WE HAVE A PETITION REQUESTING CONSENT FROM CITY COUNCIL TO ADD THAT TO THE MUD.

THE BALANCE OF THE REMAINDER OF THIS IS CURRENTLY APPROVED THROUGH TCU.

THE APPLICANT HAS BROUGHT FORWARD ANY NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, AS WELL AS ASKING FOR A CONSENT FOR THE CREATION OF THE MUD TO GO ALONG WITH THIS, JUST TO BE COMPLIANT AND CONSISTENT WITH TKC RULES.

SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE LIGHT YELLOW OR BEIGE AREAS, THE LARGEST PIECE BEING TRACT A, THAT IS THE PRIMARY LOCATION WHERE THAT WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN THE SAME WITH TRACK B AND THEN TRACT C.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN GREEN IS FEMA FLOODPLAIN.

AND THEN WITHIN THAT GREEN YOU HAVE SOME BLUE HATCHED AREAS.

THE BLUE HATCHED AREAS ARE ULTIMATELY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AT A FUTURE DATE, UNDER A FUTURE AGREEMENT, APPROXIMATELY 110 TO 120 ACRES OF PARKLAND FOR PARKLAND, DEDICATION AND TRAILS.

SO THAT WOULD CONNECT AND WAS A REQUEST THROUGH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT BLACK DOTTED LINE, WHICH IS A ROADWAY.

SO THAT COLLECTOR IS GOING UP AND THROUGH TO CONNECTING TO 380.

AND THEN THE SMALL BLUE PIECE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS A TWO AND A HALF ACRE TRACK FOR A FUTURE, FUTURE FIRE STATION.

THERE ARE TWO GAS WELLS ON THE PROPERTY WHICH YOU'LL SEE AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN.

THE TWO CIRCLES IDENTIFY THOSE TWO GAS WELLS.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE THE BUILDER WILL BE ALSO DEDICATING THE APPROPRIATE RIGHT OF WAY FOR JACKSON ROAD TO THE NORTH AND THOMAS J.

EAGAN TO THE EAST.

AS FAR AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CONSIDERATIONS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE ROADWAY DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER WILL ALL BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS.

THOSE PRODUCTS WILL COMPLY TO OUR CITY STANDARDS.

THAT WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE CURB, GUTTER AND STORM DRAINAGE.

WASTEWATER AND WATER RATES WILL BE CHARGED AS OUT OF CITY RATES, BUT ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WATER AND SEWER WILL BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS, BOTH ON AND OFF SITE. YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE AS FAR AS EXHIBITS TO THE AGREEMENT AND THE APPROXIMATE COST OF THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE PETITION BACK AT THAT TIME WAS ROUGHLY 54 MILLION, AND THAT IS NOW CLOSER TO 75 MILLION IN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

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THAT WILL BE A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THIS IS THE FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT.

AS I HAD REFERENCED THE MUD ON THE EXHIBIT OR WHAT IS KNOWN AS MEADOWS COUNSEL BACK IN JANUARY OF 22 APPROVED A FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT WITH THE MEADOWS. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

THERE WILL BE A DEDICATION OF 2.5 ACRES OF LAND FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION.

THERE WILL BE ULTIMATELY 300,000, ONE TIME MUD SERVICE FEE TOWARDS THAT CAPITAL, 250,000 FOR A ONE TIME FEE FOR THE CAPITAL COST OF SODA ASSOCIATED TO THE FIRE STATION AT THE CITY'S AIRPORT.

THE DISTRICT SHALL LEVY AND COLLECT THE FIRE TAX IN THE AMOUNT OF $0.16 PER $100 ASSESSED.

AND THEN THEY WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE THAT PAYMENT TO THE CITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

AND THEN EACH SINGLE FAMILY LOT WILL BE ASSESSED A $550 FIRE FIRE SERVICE'S CAPITAL FEE.

SO AT EACH TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT AND THEN 250 ON EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT WITHIN THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH WOULD BE IN THAT PHASED.

I HAD MENTIONED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.

SO WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN A LATER DATE THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR 110 TO 120 ACRES OF PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR PARKLAND AND OUR TRAILS.

WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS AS FAR AS ON THE GUESTS WHILE SETBACKS TO WHERE IT IS THAT THE FIRE CODE BY RIGHT WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO TODAY WOULD BE ROUGHLY 100 FEET FROM WELLHEAD TO STRUCTURE. AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 200 FEET FROM THE WELL HEAD TO THE NEAREST PROPERTY LINE.

ADDITIONALLY, THE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BUILD ALL OF THEIR STRUCTURES TO OUR ADOPTED CODES.

I'D MENTIONED THAT AS FAR AS ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ADDITIONALLY THEY WILL BE PULLING BUILDING PERMITS AND RECEIVING INSPECTIONS THROUGH THE CITY OF DENTON TO MAKE SURE AT A FUTURE POINT WE ANNEX THIS INTO THE CITY THAT IT ALL COMPLIES WITH OUR CODES.

I HAD MENTIONED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE CONSENT FOR TRACK DX.

WE'D RECEIVE THAT ON JUNE THE 23RD.

THAT INFORMATION IS IN YOUR BACKUP AGAIN.

THAT BLUE SHADED AREA, APPROXIMATELY 45 ACRES THAT WILL BE BUILT INTO MULTIFAMILY STAFF, DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

WE FEEL THAT THEY HAVE NEGOTIATED WITH US IN GOOD FAITH TO GET US TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

WE HAVE THREE SEPARATE ITEMS FOR A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.

I WILL NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THE FOLLOWING TWO ITEMS. IT IS JUST THAT I'VE CONSOLIDATED ALL THREE OF THESE INTO ONE.

THE FIRST IS THAT IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THEN THE OTHER TWO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS WITH CONSIDERATION CONSENTING TO THE FORMATION OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH YES, AGAIN WAS ALREADY APPROVED ON JUNE THE EIGHTH BY TCU, AND THEN THE THIRD WOULD BE THAT OF CONSENTING TO THE ADDITIONAL LAND, THE 45 ACRES THAT WOULD BE MULTIFAMILY INCORPORATED INTO THIS MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

AND I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I'LL JUST REMIND YOU THAT WE DO, IN FACT, HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE THAT CAN ALSO ANSWER QUESTIONS RATHER THAN A PRESENTATION.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THE OTHER TWO ITEMS JUST IN CASE QUESTIONS GET INTO THOSE AREAS.

SO IT'S ITEM B, WHICH IS ID TWO, TWO, ONE, THREE, FIVE, ONE.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, CONSENTING TO THE CREATION OF LEGENDS RANCH MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT OF DENTON COUNTY.

THEN ALSO ITEM C, WHICH IS ID 22135.

TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, CONSENTING TO THE ADDITIONAL OF ADDITION OF CERTAIN LAND INTO LEGENDS RANCH MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT OF DENTON COUNTY.

SO THERE'S THOSE TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I APOLOGIZE.

GIVEN THE OTHER ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPROACH STAFF WITH THIS QUESTION, BUT I HAVE A BIT OF A FLY TO DROP IN THE OINTMENT.

WE'RE AT 200 FEET.

THE GAS WELL SET BACK IN THIS NEGOTIATED DEAL.

AND I RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE NEGOTIATING THIS DEAL.

THIS IS NOT THE CITY IMPOSING CITY CODE UPON THE DEVELOPER.

THIS IS US NEGOTIATING FOR THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THEIR PROCESS.

BUT WE'VE DRAWN A PRETTY HARD LINE WITH SOME OTHER DEVELOPERS AT OUR 500 FEET.

AND WE HAD A A VERY TIGHTLY DECIDED 500 FOOT REVERSE SETBACK CODE PUT IN PLACE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS NEGOTIATING PROCESS AND WHETHER THIS APPLICANT WOULD BE WILLING TO GO TO 500 FEET AS CITY CODE REQUIRES AS OPPOSED TO 200 FEET, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS IN THE CONCEPT PLAN.

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I CAN SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THAT.

I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OF THE DEVELOPER.

IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GO TO 500 FEET.

I CAN TELL YOU AGAIN THAT THEY HAVE CONSENT TO BUILD BUY RIGHT TODAY.

AND SO WE TOOK ANY WIND THAT WE COULD GET AND ULTIMATELY IT WAS AN IMPROVEMENT, KEEPING IT AWAY FROM PARKLAND AND FROM THE RESIDENTIAL LOT.

SO IT WAS, AGAIN, MUCH GREATER, BETTER THAN TWICE AS MUCH AS WHAT THE FIRE CODE ALLOWS AND YES, LESS THAN OUR STANDARD.

BUT AS FAR AS FROM A LEVERAGE POINT, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE WERE AT, IF THAT HELPS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER. WHAT'S. SCOTT ON THE SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE WATER AND THE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE STREETS SAID DEDICATED AND CONSTRUCTED TO CITY STANDARDS.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S IN CASE IF AT SOME POINT DOWN THE LINE WE'RE WANTING OR THEY'RE WANTING TO OR THERE'S SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT FOR ANNEXATION, IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, WHAT WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT WAS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT? THE INTEREST OF THAT? THAT IS CORRECT.

IF FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THIS COULD VERY WELL BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND ALL OF THOSE ALL OF ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL WILL MATCH ALL OF OUR CRITERIA AND STANDARDS.

OC SO I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP ON THAT IS WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD HAPPEN, IF EVER, BUT IT COULD AND IT MIGHT BE YEARS DOWN THE LINE AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE STANDARDS, BECAUSE ROADS TYPICALLY MAY NOT LAST 25 YEARS AND THERE MAY BE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED.

IS PART OF THAT CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT THAT THAT THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THOSE COMPONENTS BE PERFORMED PURSUANT TO CITY STANDARDS.

YES, THERE ARE OBLIGATED TO MAINTAIN THEM TO CITY STANDARDS.

THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO HAVE THAT LONG TERM OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THEM.

ONE THING THAT DID WE DID PUT IN HERE IS COUNCIL MAY WANT TO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AN X RAY.

AND BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO ISSUE BONDS AND INCUR MORE DEBT TO MAINTAIN, THE COUNCIL HAS TO GIVE APPROVAL FOR THAT JUST IN CASE YOU WANT TO.

DON'T WANT THEM TO CONTINUE TO RUN UP DEBT.

BUT IF YOU DO THAT, IT'LL BE THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE AT THAT TIME DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS WHETHER THEY WANT THEM TO CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THAT MAINTENANCE OR IF AT SOME POINT THE CITY WANTS THAT TO TRANSFER TO THE CITY AS PART OF US ANNEXING THE LAND, WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

BUT IN THE INTERIM, YES, THEY'LL BE MAINTAINING THE CITY STANDARD.

OKAY. AND ONE FINAL QUESTION AS FAR AS THE FIRE.

CONTRIBUTION TO FIRE PROTECTION AND BUDGETS AND COSTS AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEN THOSE NEGOTIATED TERMS ARE ADEQUATE TO MEET THE OBLIGATIONS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE.

IN OTHER WORDS, PROVIDING FIRE SERVICE EITHER AS A FIRST RESPONDER OR THE PRIMARY RESPONDER, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO THOSE COSTS ARE ADEQUATE ENOUGH TO WHERE THE CITY IS, NOT NECESSARILY THE CITY.

TAXPAYERS AREN'T SUBSIDIZING ADDITIONAL COSTS.

THEY'RE PAYING ENOUGH TO COVER.

WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO DO FOR THEM.

IS THAT IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? THAT IS THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THE FIRE CHIEF WORKED THROUGH WITH HIS STAFF TO DEFINE THOSE TERMS VERY CLEARLY AND VERY CONFIDENT IN THE FACT OF WHAT WE HAVE.

AND HE'S HERE TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

AND I'M ASSUMING THE FIRE STATION NINE OUT AT THE AIRPORT WOULD BE ONE OF THE RESPONDING STATIONS.

WOULD IT BE THE PRIMARY RESPONDING STATION BEFORE? BECAUSE THEY'RE DEDICATING PROPERTY, I BELIEVE, IN THE THE MUD FOR A FIRE STATION.

THAT'S ONLY IF I GUESS WE CAN EXIT.

I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THERE THERE ARE SOME BUILT IN PIECES TO THE FIRE AGREEMENT, AND IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF LOTS AND THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE GROUND AND HOW WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. SO YES, IT WILL BE OPERATING PRIMARILY OUT OF THE AIRPORT AT THE MOMENT.

OC ONE FINAL QUESTION, MAYOR, ON THE LOT SIZES, I NOTICE THERE WERE 50, 45 AND 40 WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THE BACKUP.

SO WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR CITY CODE, WE HAVE A STANDARD WHEREBY 40 TO 40 FOOT LOTS CAN EXIST, 45 FOOT LOTS AND 50 FOOT LOTS.

THE ZONING DOES NOT COMPLY.

SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OR A LOT OF THE TIMES WHY IT IS THAT ONE WILL JUST SEEK TO BUILD IN THE COUNTY SO THE ZONING DOES NOT COMPLETELY COMPLY WITH OUR IS ALL THE OTHER TECHNICAL STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER TIM BACK.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I GUESS I DIDN'T.

TO FOLLOW UP FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS.

IS THERE I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE RESPONSE.

IS THERE ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL NEGOTIATION ON THE SET BACK DISTANCE? I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.

I CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER.

I THINK WE WORKED THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD AND PUSHED ALL WE COULD.

SO THAT'S A VERY QUESTION FOR THEM.

OKAY. AND THEN THE FOR THE.

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IS THERE ANY RISK OR OBLIGATION FROM HAVING A FIRE STATION UPON WHOSE PROPERTY WE DON'T OWN OR IS NOT OWNED BUT IS NOT PART OF THE CITY? RATHER, I KNOW WE'LL OWN THE LAND, BUT IS THERE IS THERE ANY RISK OR OBLIGATION TO US TO NOT HAVE IT PART OF THE CITY BUT MERELY OWN THE PERSON? IT'S BECOMING VERY DIFFICULT TO HEAR YOU HERE, BUT I'LL SEE IF I DID UNDERSTAND YOU.

YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED THAT IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION.

AND IF THERE WAS A THAT'S CORRECT PROBLEM ASSOCIATED TO US BUILDING A FIRE STATION ON PROPERTY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN THE CITY, IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD? THAT'S CORRECT. AND I GUESS I WOULD STAND TO THE OPINION AND LES MAC HAS SOMETHING THAT HE WANTED, HAD A LOOK.

WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AS WE NEED TO AS TIME GOES FORWARD.

OKAY. AND THEN THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS THE WITH THE TCU SORT OF TACITLY APPROVING IT, WE REALLY ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THESE NEGOTIATIONS AS WE'RE DOING.

IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S REALLY NO TEETH, NO ENFORCEMENT.

I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.

I'M GOING TO TRY AGAIN.

I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY IF TCU APPROVED THIS.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COURSE OF ACTION? IS THAT IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? BETTER? IS THIS BETTER? YEAH. IT'S JUST VERY, VERY LOUD IN THE BACKGROUND HERE.

OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S CLOSE TO WHAT I SAID.

I'M WONDERING IF WELL, IF THE IF THIS SORT OF NEGOTIATION WITH THE DEVELOPER IS OUR ONLY AVENUE TO GET ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THROUGH, LET'S SAY IT THAT WAY.

THIS IS LARGELY THIS IS LARGELY THE COURSE OF ACTION.

I THINK MACK MAY HAVE SUPPLIED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN YOUR IN YOUR STAFF UPDATE, BUT THIS IS THIS IS THE PRIMARY COURSE OF ACTION, ESPECIALLY AT THE HOUR IN WHICH WE'RE IN, THAT THEY DO, IN FACT, HAVE CONSENT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE? AND THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE APPROVAL? IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR HUDSPETH? THIS IS ITEM A FOR CLARITY.

SO MOTION BY MAYOR HUDSPETH.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BIRD DISCUSSION.

COUNCILOR DAVIS.

MAYOR, I'M VERY AWARE OF OUR NEGOTIATING POSITION HERE, BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THE SET BACK QUESTION.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

JUST TRYING TO KEEP US MOVING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THOMAS FLETCHER WITH KIMLEY-HORN 6161 PARKWAY, FRISCO, TEXAS 75034.

I AM THE ENGINEER FOR THE APPLICANT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE I CAN CONSULT WITH THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER, BUT I KNOW WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WE LOOKED AT THE MEADOWS AGREEMENT AS WELL, WHICH IS THE OLD EXTRACT, WHICH IS ALSO BASED ON A 200 FOOT FROM THE WELL HEAD TO THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY WITH THE REAR YARD SETBACKS BECAUSE ALL THE LOTS THAT BACK TO THE GAS WELLS, THOSE LOTS ARE LOCATED SUCH THAT THEY BACK.

SO YOU WILL END UP WITH PROBABLY ABOUT 230 FEET FROM THE WELLHEAD TO THE ACTUAL HABITABLE STRUCTURE.

SO YOU WILL END UP WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT'S TYPICALLY ALLOWED IN THE COUNTY FROM THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE.

I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AS WE'VE PRESENTED IT.

WE'VE MADE A LOT OF CONCESSIONS OR DISCUSSIONS KIND OF NEGOTIATING THROUGH THE CITY WITH THE WITH THE LOT SIZES, WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE PULLING BUILDING PERMITS WITHIN THE CITY, PAYING THE BUILDING PERMIT FEES, WHICH TYPICALLY WOULDN'T BE DONE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

I KNOW THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH AND DISTANCE ON THE SETBACK ITSELF.

AND WE WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE 200 FOOT TO THE PROPERTY LINE AS PROPOSED.

IT WOULD REALLY BE HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED IF IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UPS FOR YOU, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.

THE FIRST ONE IS AND ON YOUR CONCEPT PLAN, THERE ARE TWO GAS WELLS.

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ONE OF THEM IS IN A RECLAMATION AREA.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN YOU INTEND TO HAVE HABITABLE STRUCTURES IN THAT AREA.

AND THEN THE OTHER DOES APPEAR TO BE CLOSER TO WHERE YOU HAVE THE HOUSES.

THERE'S A KIND OF A CUL DE SAC AT THE END OF A STREET.

AM I READING THAT CONCEPT MAP CORRECTLY? WELL, THE THE CONCEPT PLAN IS KIND OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL A BUBBLE PLAN.

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL PLOTS LAID OUT, BUT THE BOTH THE GAS WELLS ON THE EAST AND THE WEST, THEY'RE KIND OF TO THE NORTH.

SO THEY'RE BOUND BY JACKSON ROAD.

SO THERE'S NOT AS MANY HOMES AFFECTED, BUT THERE ARE PLANS TO DO RESIDENTIAL HOMES AROUND BOTH OF THOSE SITES.

THEY'RE BOTH LOCATED WITHIN WHAT I WOULD CALL DEVELOPABLE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.

AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT WITH WITH THE MEADOWS.

DO WE HAVE A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT? DOES THIS. THERE WAS THERE WAS A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT.

THE CITY COUNCIL DID CONSENT TO THE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE CREATION OF THE MUD ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

AT THE TIME THAT THAT CAME BEFORE THE CITY, I THINK IT WAS EARLY ON, MAYBE RIGHT AT THE END OF THE BEGINNING OF THE MUD CREATION, I GUESS, GUIDANCE DOCUMENT THAT WAS PREPARED BY THE CITY.

SO THAT PROJECT IS IN THE DENTON DIVISION TOO.

IT'S NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S SEWER OR WATER SCENE.

SO THAT PROJECT HAD A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PARAMETERS TO IT.

WE SUBSEQUENTLY, AFTER THAT MUD WAS CREATED, APPROACHED THE CITY BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING ON I REPRESENT THAT PROJECT.

IN THIS PROJECT WE WERE WORKING ON THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER AND COORDINATED WITH CHIEF HEDGES ON THE FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT FOR FOR BOTH OF THEM.

AND ORIGINALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING A FIRE STATION IN THE OLD PROJECT AND AS WE WORKED WITH CHIEF HEDGES REALIZED THAT BECAUSE OF RESPONSE TIMES, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF FIRE STATION NUMBER NINE, THAT HIS PREFERENCE WAS TO HAVE THAT LOCATED WITHIN THE LEGENDS OFF THOMAS EAGAN ROAD FOR FOR RESPONSE TIMES AND KIND OF HOW THEY LOOK AT WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE THEIR STATIONS POSITION.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET? I REALIZE THIS IS A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, 205 HUNDRED.

BUT IF YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET AN ANSWER ON LET ME LET ME DISCUSS THAT REAL QUICK, AND I REALIZE THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? BECAUSE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE WE'LL CONSIDER THE MOTION DEPENDING ON THE ANSWER.

BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION SO WE CAN GET THOSE OUT OF THE WAY? SEEING. NONE. OK.

I TELL YOU WHAT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TIME. I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

LET ME LET ME. THAT'S JUST BAD FORM.

SO LET'S DO THIS.

TAKE YOUR TIME. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE PLENTY TO DO.

LET ME COME BACK TO YOU. SO I'LL PUT THAT ON THE TABLE.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT. WE WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE TWO.

WE COULD HAVE GOT YOU A LITTLE MORE TIME THAN THAT.

YEAH. ITEMS. YEAH, YEAH.

SO LET'S. ARE BNC CONNECTED TO THOSE? YES. OKAY, GREAT.

SO THEN LET'S JUST GO TO ITEM DX.

I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS IT NOW.

OKAY. YEAH, I APOLOGIZE.

I THINK. WHAT, BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS OF THE LAND PLAN, WE'D BE WILLING TO GO TO 300 FEET.

WE THINK THAT WOULD BE A A GOOD COMPROMISE.

IT WOULD BE GREATER THAN WHAT WAS AGREED TO ON SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ONES, AND THAT WOULD BE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO YOU WOULD STILL HAVE PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL 30 FEET OR SO TO THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE.

SO THAT GIVE YOU ABOUT 330 FEET TOTAL.

IF WE WENT TO 500, IT WOULD HAVE A MUCH LARGER IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS I THINK AT 300 FEET IS PROBABLY GOING TO IMPACT PROBABLY 20 TO 30 LOTS.

AND I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE ON THE ON THE PROJECT, IF THAT WOULD SATISFY YOUR REQUEST.

I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WILL TAKE UP YOUR OFFER.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 300 COUNCIL MEMBER.

DO YOU AGREE WITH YOUR SECOND? I WILL. THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR HUDSPETH SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BYRD WITH THE AMENDMENT OF 300 FEET SET BACK.

THANK YOU AGAIN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE COUNTS.

SO, MAYOR HUDSPETH I COUNCILMAN BYRD.

COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE I COUNCILMAN MCGEE I COUNCILMAN WATTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

NAY COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM.

I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE, MATE.

SORRY. THAT PASSES FIVE TWO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TAKES US TO ITEM B.

[B. Consider approval of a resolution of the City Council of the City of Denton, Texas consenting to the creation of Legends Ranch Municipal Utility District of Denton County, which lies within the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the City of Denton.]

ID TWO, TWO, ONE, THREE, FIVE ONE.

NO PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. MAYOR HUDSPETH ITEM OF APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND.

COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE SECOND SO MOTION BY MARE HUDSPETH SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

MAYOR HUDSPETH I COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE I COUNCILMAN MCGEE I COUNCILMAN WATTS, COUNCILMAN BERT I COUNCILOR DAVIS, I MAYOR PRO TEM I THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM C MAYOR HUDSPETH A MOVE APPROVAL IS THEIR SECOND COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

[C. Consider approval of a resolution of the City Council of the City of Denton, Texas consenting to the addition of certain land into Legends Ranch Municipal Utility District of Denton County.]

ALL RIGHT. MOST OF OUR MEN ARE HUDSPETH SICKENED BY COUNCILMAN.

MCGEE. ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

MY HUSBAND'S. I COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE.

I COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE.

I COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHAT'S. COUNCILMAN BYRD I.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS I.

MAYOR PRO TEM I.

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU. THANK STAFF.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

TAKES US TO ITEM RD.

[D. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute contracts for vehicle purchases for Fleet Services for a period of three (3) years; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date.]

ID 221269.

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, A TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTE CONTRACTS FOR VEHICLE PURCHASES FOR FLEET SERVICES FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. TERRY CARTER, FLEA SERVICES SUPERINTENDENT.

HERE WE GO. SO THIS.

THIS ITEM IS TO DELEGATE SOME AUTHORITY FOR CERTAIN FLEET PURCHASES TO THE CITY MANAGER.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CURRENT PROCESS.

WE DO HAVE A VERY GOOD PROCESS IN PLACE FOR FLEET ACQUISITIONS PRESENTLY UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTS IN PLACE WITH VARIOUS MANUFACTURERS.

WHEN WE WE ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS AND WHEN THE ORDER BANK OPENS, WE ORDER THOSE VEHICLES AND THEN WAIT FOR THE VEHICLES TO COME IN.

ANY PURCHASES THAT ARE OVER 50,000 THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON A CONTRACT, WE TAKE AND GET QUOTES FOR THOSE AND BRING THAT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO THAT WORKS FINE WHEN THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS NORMAL AND EVERYTHING WORKS WELL, BUT UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES, THERE'S BEEN VERY STRONG DEMAND FOR VEHICLES AND VERY LIMITED SUPPLIER AVAILABILITY.

SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO HERE IS JUST TO OPEN ANOTHER AVENUE FOR A FLEET TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE CERTAIN VEHICLES SHOULD THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

AND THIS DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME.

WE HOPE TO HELP OUR CUSTOMERS.

ARE OUR DEPARTMENTS OUT BY BEING ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE VEHICLES THAT THEY NEED? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DON'T GET THOSE VEHICLES IN OR THEY'RE DELAYED OR WE CAN'T ORDER THEM? IS IT BASICALLY THE VEHICLES GET OLDER, THEY COST MORE TO MAINTAIN.

AND THE THE REAL DOWNFALL IS THAT THE INCREASED DOWNTIME TO THE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS EVEN MORE HURTFUL THAN THE EXTRA COST.

YOU CAN ALSO HAVE NEW STAFF ON BOARD THAT DON'T HAVE VEHICLES TO OPERATE WHEN THEY WHEN THEY GET HERE.

AND IN SOME CASES, DEPENDING ON THE DEPARTMENT, IT CAN CAUSE PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY CONCERNS WHEN WE CAN ACQUIRE THE PROPER VEHICLES AT THE PROPER TIME.

SO DUE TO THE MARKET CONDITIONS, THERE ARE LONG LEAD TIMES FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES AND WE'RE HOPING THAT

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WITH THIS ORDINANCE IT WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER SIGN FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES SHOULD THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL INCREASE THE VEHICLE SUPPLY, BUT VEHICLES DO BECOME AVAILABLE FROM TIME TO TIME, AND THIS ORDINANCE WILL HELP US STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS.

WE HAVE TO ACT QUICKLY WHEN THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE WE'RE IN COMPETITION WITH EVERY OTHER CITY IN NORTH TEXAS AND THE STATE FOR THAT MATTER.

SO THIS WILL OFFER A SIGN FOR FOR THOSE PURCHASES.

IT WILL LIMIT THIS TO THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

WE HOPE THAT THINGS WILL GET STRAIGHTENED OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND GET BACK TO KIND OF THE NORMAL SUPPLY CHAIN.

AND THIS AUTHORITY WILL PROBABLY BE USED PRIMARILY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, FOR POLICE, FIRE, UTILITIES, ANYTHING THAT COULD AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

THESE SOME OF THESE PURCHASES WILL STILL BE ON CONTRACTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE IN OUR CURRENT CONTRACT.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THAT WE APPROVE THE DELEGATED AUTHORITY.

THESE PURCHASES WILL NEED TO ADHERE TO THE DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS.

THEY MUST BE PRE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET WHEN THE BUDGETS ARE APPROVED AND WE WILL COMMUNICATE TO CITY COUNCIL ANY TIME THIS DELEGATED AUTHORITY IS USED TO PURCHASE FLEET ACQUISITION A REPORT.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. I JUST HAVE ONE REQUEST ON THAT FRIDAY REPORT.

CAN WE MAKE A NOTE TO MAYBE CHANGE THE HABIT, COLOR CODED OR HIGHLIGHTED OR SOMETHING JUST SO IT JUMPS OUT? JUST IF YOU'D BE SO KIND? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

OK. COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE.

OK MOST FROM OUR COUNCIL.

MAGUIRE ARE SECOND COUNCILWOMAN.

MCGEE. YOU SECOND.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO, MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE. I SAW YOU.

I COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

COUNCILMAN WATTS. COUNCILMAN BURT, I.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

I'M MAYOR PRO TEM AND MAYOR HUDSPETH AS WELL.

PASSED THE SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[E. Consider approval of a resolution to appoint a member to the Board of Directors of the Texas Municipal Power Agency, a Texas Joint Powers Agency, to represent the City of Denton, a Texas Home-Rule Municipal Corporation; and declaring an effective date.]

THAT TAKES US TO ITEM E, WHICH IS ID 221044.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO APPOINT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY, A TEXAS JOINT POWER AGENCY TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION AND DELEGATION DELEGATE DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL TONY PUENTE DM GENERAL MANAGER THANK BRIAN FOR GIVING ME SOME ASSISTANCE HERE.

SO, SO THIS ITEM IS APPOINTMENT TO A TAMPA BOARD BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

SO TAMPA IS A JOINT POWERS AGENCY IN WHICH THE CITY OF DENTON CITY OF BRYAN CITY, GREENVILLE AND GARLAND ARE ALL MEMBERS AND PART OWNERS WAS CREATED BACK IN 1975. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL ALL OF THIS, BUT TAMPA BAY PREVIOUSLY OWNED GENERATION ASSETS, THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN SOLD.

AND THERE ARE NO MORE ASSETS RELATED TO GENERATION OWNED BY BY THE AGENCY.

THERE IS STILL SOME MINE PROPERTY THAT'S LEFT.

YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT A FEW MONTHS BACK, ABOUT 10,000 ACRES THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD IS ABOUT 726 ACRES STILL REMAINING AND THOSE ARE CURRENTLY BEING MARKETED FOR SALE.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ASSETS THAT WILL REMAIN AFTER THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE MINE WILL BE TRANSMISSION ASSETS.

THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION AT THE BOARD ABOUT POTENTIALLY UNBUNDLING THOSE, BUT THAT'S STILL KIND OF IN THE WORKS AND THERE MAY BE SOME TIME BEFORE BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.

IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, THEN THE NEED FOR TAMPA TO CONTINUE WOULD PROBABLY NO LONGER BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE.

TAMPA IS MADE UP OF.

OH, SO THERE'S TWO MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY EACH MEMBER CITY TO NOW YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING REFILLING ONE POSITION THAT'S CURRENTLY FILLED BY MR. BELICHICK. IT EXPIRES ON JULY 18, 2022.

THE COUNCIL WAS NOTIFIED OF THIS, AND I DID RECEIVE SOME SOME NOMINATIONS.

WE HAVE MR. BELICHICK'S BEEN NOMINATED AND ALSO MR. DEVIN TAYLOR BOTH RESIDE IN THE CITY OF DEDHAM.

SO THEY MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND THEY BOTH HAPPEN TO BE MEMBERS OF THE CITY'S PUBLIC UTILITIES BOARD.

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SO PER THE TAMPA GOVERNANCE REQUIREMENTS, THE CITY WAS FORMALLY ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPOINTING THE REPRESENTATIVE.

THEY'LL SERVE A TWO YEAR TERM, AND IT'LL BE AN ALTERNATING TERM WITH THE OTHER MEMBER.

THAT'S THE OTHER MEMBERS CURRENTLY.

COUNCIL MEMBER JESSIE DAVIS, THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL, WILL SERVE FOR TWO YEARS FROM JULY 18, 2022 TO JULY 18, 2024.

AND AGAIN, AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO RESIDE IN THE CITY, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO BE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BUT MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA BOARD.

AND AGAIN, THE COUNCIL HAS HISTORICALLY APPOINTED A COUNCIL MEMBER AND A MEMBER OF THE PBE, BUT THAT UNDER THE TAMPA GOVERNANCE REQUIREMENTS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.

SO SO WITH THAT SO BASED ON COUNCIL LEGAL COUNCIL'S ADVICE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION TO SAY MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION WITH THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME AND EACH OF THE APPROPRIATE BLOCK LENGTHS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'LL TRY TO LEAVE IT UP HERE, OR MAYBE I NEED TO TAKE IT DOWN.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PREEMPT ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE.

GOT IT. GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION.

I MOVE THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE.

EXCUSE ME. I MOVE. THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED WITH THE NAME MR. BILLY CHEEK IN EACH OF THE APPROPRIATE BLANKS.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

OKAY. IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR STATEMENT.

MAYBE THERE'S A SECOND ORDER NEEDS TO HEAR FROM YOU AS FAR AS THE SUPPORT.

SURE. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, AS TONY SAID, AND TONY SERVES IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION IN TAMPA AS WELL.

THIS BOARD HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT ASSETS THAT WE SHARE IN COMMON.

IT MAY BECOME NECESSARY TO START NEGOTIATING ABOUT HOW THOSE ASSETS ARE DISTRIBUTED.

IN THE MEANTIME, THIS BOARD APPROVES EXPENDITURES IN DENTON'S FAVOR.

THERE WE TALKED EARLIER IN THE DAY ABOUT COST EXPENDITURES AND REIMBURSEMENTS.

WE ALSO HAVE FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS WITH WITH THIS AGENCY WHERE DENTON IS REIMBURSED FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MAKE ON TRANSMISSION ASSETS THAT ARE UNDER OUR CONTROL. RIGHT NOW, MR. CHEEK HAS BEEN SERVING ON THIS BOARD FOR A WHILE, AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE AGENCY'S SOMEWHAT DIMINISHED FROM WHEN WE HAD THE ASSETS LIKE THE GENERATION, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD TO MANAGE, IT IS STILL A VERY HIGH VALUE POSITION FOR THE CITY OF DENTON TO HAVE.

AND MR. CHEEK OCCUPIES A LEADERSHIP POSITION ON THE BOARD OF THE TAMPA.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY THERE.

MANY OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE SENDING FOLKS WHO ARE NOT ON THEIR CITY COUNCILS BUT HAVE BEEN SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY SINCE THEY WERE ON THEIR CITY COUNCILS 20 AND 30 YEARS AGO.

SO I KNOW DEVIN TAYLOR, I KNOW HIM VERY WELL AND I THINK HE WOULD BE A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY.

BUT WE HAVE AN ASSET IN MR. CHEEK WHO HAS BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF THE AGENCY, TO KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER PERSONALITIES IN THE AGENCY, AND FOR US TO KIND OF SWITCH HORSES IN MIDSTREAM, I THINK PUTS DENTON AT A DISADVANTAGE JUST BECAUSE THE LONG SERVICE OF SOME.

THE OTHER MEMBER CITIES BOARD APPOINTEES.

IS THERE A SECOND? WHAT'S THAT? IS THERE? COUNCILMAN. MAGUIRE.

FOR DEVIN TAYLOR.

HE'S HE'S AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I AGREE THAT BELICHICK HAS THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE TO SERVE IN THIS ROLE.

OK MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID'S SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE FOR MR. BELICHICK. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS I SEE YOU I COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE I COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE I COUNCILMAN WHAT COUNCILMAN BERT I MAYOR PRO TEM NEY AND MAYOR HUDSPETH AS I PASSES SIX ONE, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM OK THAT TAKES US TO

[F. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton affirming the rights of individuals to make private reproductive decisions and deprioritizing use of City resources for investigation or enforcement of laws related to reproductive healthcare; and providing an effective date.]

ITEM F ID 221275.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON AFFIRMING THE RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE PRIVATE REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS DECENT IN AN ORDER OR WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 2 HOURS OF COMMENTS.

SO THOSE HERE.

I'LL TAKE A BREAK WHENEVER YOU NEED TO.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING SO THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE HOME.

STAFF HAS TO COME BACK AND WORK TOMORROW, AND I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.

AND THERE'S PEOPLE HERE THAT NEED TO GET HOME, SEE KIDS, TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THESE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

THE TIME IS 3 MINUTES EACH SPEAKER AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY RIGID ABOUT THAT.

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BUYER BEWARE UP FRONT.

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'RE MINDFUL OF THE TIME YOU HAVE LEFT TO SPEAK SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THINGS ALONG.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING UNTIL WE'RE WE'RE DONE AND WE'LL DELIBERATE AND VOTE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS RYAN ADAMS, CHIEF OF STAFF.

SO THERE WE GO.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU.

SO I'LL GIVE A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM.

THIS ITEM ORIGINATED WITH A TWO MINUTE PITCH BY COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE THAT WAS DELIVERED ON JUNE 7TH, 2022, EARLIER THIS MONTH.

AND THE ITEM REFERENCED A POSSIBLE OVERTURNING OF ROE VERSUS WADE AND THE EFFECT OF TEXAS HOUSE BILL 1280.

HOW THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY SUCH AN OVERTURNING.

AND JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, WE ADDED IN SINCE IT WAS NOT DISCUSSED IN GREAT DEPTH DURING THAT PITCH.

SOME BACKGROUND ON HB 1280 HOSPITAL 1280 IS THAT IT GIVES CRIMINAL, CIVIL AND ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTIES TO ANY PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY PERFORMS, INDUCES OR ATTEMPTS AN ABORTION.

IT IS THE CIVIL, THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES ARE FELONIES, AND THE CIVIL PENALTIES WOULD NOT BE LESS THAN $100,000 FOR EACH VIOLATION.

IN ADDITION, IT CAN IMPACT THE LICENSING OF ANYONE WHO IS IN VIOLATION OF HB 1280.

THERE'S NO EXEMPTION FOR RAPE, INCEST OR FETAL ABNORMALITIES.

THE ONLY EXEMPTION OR IT WOULD NOT APPLY IF THERE WAS AN IMPACT TO THE HEALTH OF THE PREGNANT FEMALE WHO HAS A LIFE THREATENING PHYSICAL CONDITION AGGRAVATED BY THE PREGNANCY.

SO THE PITCH PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE REQUESTED A DRAFT RESOLUTION AND IT INCLUDED THE LANGUAGE REQUESTED THAT RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED.

THAT AFFIRMS THE RIGHTS TO MAKE THE RIGHT TO MAKE REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS AND D PRIORITIZES THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES, CITY FUNDS TO ENFORCE LAWS RELATED TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE. DURING THAT MEETING, THE COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION AT A FUTURE MEETING.

AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

SO YOU ALL HAVE THE RESOLUTION IN YOUR BACK UP.

BUT JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE COMPONENTS, IT DOES HAVE FORMAL SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUAL REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS.

IT STATES THAT CITY FUNDS AND RESOURCES AND PERSONNEL WOULDN'T BE USED FOR STORING ABORTION RELATED INFORMATION.

PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION TO OTHER AGENCIES, OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, AND COLLECTING ABORTION RELATED DATA.

IT FURTHER STATES THAT ABORTION RELATED CRIMES WOULD BE THE LOWEST PRIORITY FOR ENFORCEMENT AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER MUST IMPLEMENT THE RESOLUTION BY A CERTAIN DATE.

SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND, OF COURSE, ON JUNE 24, 2022, THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED ROE V WADE IN CASE OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD. IN THAT DECISION, IT STATED THERE'S NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO AN ABORTION.

STATES WERE GOING TO BE THE ONES TO DETERMINE WHETHER ABORTION IS LEGAL AND, IF SO, WHAT LIMITATIONS THERE WOULD BE.

AND IT ALSO THE FURTHER IMPLICATIONS THAT HB 1280 WOULD TAKE EFFECT 30 DAYS AFTER THAT DECISION IS RENDERED.

AN ISSUE I WILL MENTION, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED TO COUNCIL, PARTICULARLY DURING THAT PITCH BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCGUIRE, IS THAT IF THE RESOLUTION IS PASSED BY COUNCIL, DENTON POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT ABSOLVED FROM THEIR DUTY UNDER STATE LAW TO ENFORCE STATE LAW AND ENFORCE ANY CIVIL AND CRIMINAL STATUTES THAT INCLUDES ANY AND ALL APPLICABLE TEXAS ABORTION RELATED STATUTES THAT HAVE A CRIMINAL PENALTY. SO THAT WAS EXPLAINED IN THE BACKUP ON JUNE 7TH, AND WE WANTED TO REMIND COUNSEL OF THAT HERE TODAY.

SO THE OPTIONS FOR COUNSEL TO CONSIDER WITH REGARD TO THE RESOLUTION IS THEY CAN NOT APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.

THEY CAN APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ANY POTENTIAL LIMITATIONS.

AND WE WOULD ASK THAT COUNSEL DO PROVIDE A DATE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT AND REPORTS AND THE RESOLUTION YOU HAVE THAT FIELD IS LEFT BLANK.

OR COUNSEL CAN MODIFY THE RESOLUTION TO BE ONE OF SUPPORT FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND OMIT ANY FUNDING OR PRIORITIZATION LANGUAGE.

WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE, AND I'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP SHARING.

THERE WE GO. GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, RYAN, BASED OFF OF THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE, WHAT I JUST READ THERE AND FOLLOWED ALONG AS YOU READ IS THAT OUR OFFICERS WILL FOLLOW THE LAW NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.

IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT AND IF MAC OR MIKE, WHO'S ALSO IN THE ROOM, WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT, IS THEY ARE NOT ABSOLVED FROM THEIR DUTY TO ENFORCE FELONIES UNDER STATE LAW.

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OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. FIRST SPEAKER.

WHOO! WHO? WHO? OK FIRST SPEAKER COUNCIL MEMBER AHMED.

IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DEB ALMONTASER AND MY ADDRESS IS 2003 MISTI WOOD LANE.

I'M WEARING SUNGLASSES BECAUSE I HAD CATARACT SURGERY A FEW DAYS AGO, SO THE LIGHT IS VERY BRIGHT FOR ME.

IT MOVES ME DEEPLY TO HEAR THE CHANTING OUTSIDE VOTE YES ON F.

THAT IS A MESSAGE, OF COURSE, TO ALL OF YOU, OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS, ELECTED LEADERS.

I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK FIRST BECAUSE MANY BLUE CARDS CAME BEFORE MINE.

SO. BUT I WANT TO TAILOR MY COMMENTS TO ANY OF YOU.

THERE ARE ANY OF YOU WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS AT THE WORK SESSION WHO MIGHT BE HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.

POLICE PRIORITIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL THE TIME.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE TO GIVE EQUAL PRIORITY TO EVERY LAW, AND IT IS THE JOB OF THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHAT COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES ARE ON ALL MATTERS, INCLUDING IN PRIORITIZATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT SAY THAT POLICE WILL NOT ENFORCE THIS LAW.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT'S A PRETTY LOW BAR RESOLUTION, BUT WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS LEGAL THAT WAS LEGIT.

SO IT DOES NOT SAY IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT POLICE WILL NOT ENFORCE THE LAW.

IT SAYS THAT THIS WILL BE A LOWER PRIORITY.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT ALSO SAYS THAT POLICE WILL NOT GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO INVESTIGATE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ABORTIONS OR ARE HAVING ABORTIONS, THAT THAT POLICE WILL NOT GO OUT OF THEIR WAY AND COUNCIL WILL NOT GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO EXPAND AND ALLOW MUNICIPAL RESOURCES TO BE SPENT ON SURVEILLING PEOPLE'S PRIVATE HEALTH CARE MATTERS.

I I'M GUESSING, ACTUALLY, THAT OUR POLICE PROBABLY DO NOT WANT TO WASTE TIME DOING THIS EITHER.

SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ILLEGAL.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING YOU ALL CAN DO.

YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM A LOT OF OTHER SPEAKERS WHO WILL MAKE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POINTS.

I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO RAN ON VALUES, ON PROGRESSIVE VALUES, THOSE OF YOU WHO RAN ON PRO PUBLIC HEALTH CARE AGENDAS, THOSE OF YOU WHO RAN AS FEMINISTS OR JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR EQUALITY, THOSE OF YOU WHO RAN FOR FOR TRANS RIGHTS, FOR EQUAL RIGHTS, FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.

IF YOU VOTE NO TO THIS, THEN YOU HAVE BETRAYED THE VALUES THAT YOU RAN ON.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED YOU, MYSELF INCLUDED, WILL NOT HESITATE TO RECALL YOU IF YOU VOTE NO.

PLEASE VOTE YES.

THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S NOT DO THAT SO I CAN CALL THE NEXT PERSON REALLY FAST.

SO WE'RE INTO THAT CONTINUING AND FIRST GROUP.

NATHAN GOLDSMITH, PLEASE.

YEAH. AND THEN.

YEAH. PHILIP YOUNG, YOU WOULD BE NEXT AFTERWARDS.

THANK YOU. OK MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

IF YOU LEAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WITH NATHAN GOLDSMITH, THERE WILL BE 100 ABBOTS LANE.

DENTON, TEXAS. 76205.

I'D SAY THE LAST 6 TO 8 MONTHS HAVE BEEN PRETTY INTERESTING COMING DOWN TO CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT ARE BEING

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PASSED IN THE CITY ON THOSE THAT STRIP THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HAVE A FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND TO SUBJECT CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY STAFF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO INVESTIGATE VIOLATIONS OF ORDINANCES THAT ARE BEING PASSED BY THE CITY THAT DIRECTLY AFFECT.

DO WE OR DO WE NOT HAVE THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH? THANKFULLY, WE DO HAVE A PROTEST GOING ON OUTSIDE AND THE SOUNDS OF IT ARE WONDERFUL TO SOMEBODY THAT STOOD UP AND SERVED THEIR COUNTRY SO THAT PEOPLE COULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I DO APPRECIATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE DEFUNDED, BUT I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE FACT THAT THEY ARE HERE IN THE LAST SIX, 6 TO 8 MONTHS, WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE ALSO, AS A PRIOR DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE, NOW I'M IN DISTRICT THREE AGAIN, THE PROFESSIONALS WERE OVERLOOKED ON WHETHER OR NOT REDISTRICTING NEEDED TO HAPPEN, BUT FOR A POLITICAL COUP, MAYBE THOSE THINGS DID HAPPEN.

AND AND WHAT ARE THE RESULTS OF THAT GOING TO BE? I DON'T KNOW. ON THIS AGENDA HERE OR ON THIS ITEM HERE.

IT'S VERY ALARMING TO ME THAT WE WOULD HAVE.

WORDS IN IT.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE BREAK DOWN, THE LOSS ON FEDERAL FELONIES.

CLEARLY, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN UP WITH THE MEDICAL WRITE, THE LICENSING.

WHY WOULD THEY BE OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE? THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE WHERE THERE'S BAD PROCEDURES BEING FOLLOWED.

BUT WHEN THE WHEN THE WHEN IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PRIORITIZATION OF CITY RESOURCES TO INVESTIGATE OR ENFORCE THE LAW, IT'S VERY ALARMING TO ME.

I DO BELIEVE IN THE SANCTITY OF LIFE.

I DO BELIEVE IN LIFE AT CONCEPTION.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE NEY'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

OVER THE LAST 26 SECONDS, WE'VE HEARD SOME THINGS TONIGHT THAT SPECIFICALLY STATES BEING TEACHERS.

I KNOW THERE'S A FEW TEACHERS IN HERE.

THEY'RE NOT ONLY INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THEIR CHILDREN, BUT ALSO THEIR BABIES.

AND I WOULD SURELY HOPE THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT AGAIN TODAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

OKAY. PHILIP YOUNG, IF YOU COULD.

AND THEN NEXT IS BRIANNA BRANDS.

YOU'D BE NEXT AFTER AFTER MR. YOUNG. SORRY. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.

YOU'RE RIGHT, MR. YOUNG. GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

I'M PHILIP YOUNG FROM 2041 SCRIPTURE ST HERE IN DENTON.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE OF GOOD INTENTIONS CAN CERTAINLY DISAGREE ON DIFFICULT QUESTIONS.

AS A CHRISTIAN, I'M GENERALLY VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO ABORTION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE NEVER BEEN OF THE OPINION THAT WE CAN LEGISLATE MORALITY. IT DIDN'T WORK DURING THE PROHIBITION ERA, AND IT IT CONCERNS ME THAT WE HAVE SUCH A RADICAL SOLUTION HERE IN TEXAS THAT A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL WHO GETS RAPED AND JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE SHE CAN BEAR THAT BABY IS FORCED TO DO SO.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO IN THE LEGISLATURE, I THINK, TO TO REACH A HAPPY MEDIUM.

THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY INAPPROPRIATE TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION, NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT COMPORT WITH HISTORICAL FACT.

THIS SAYS THE SUPREME COURT MAY OVERTURN THE LANDMARK DECISION, ROE VERSUS WADE.

IT HAS BEEN OVERTURNED AT THE VERY LEAST.

YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST REWRITE THIS TO COMPORT WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION AS WRITTEN, IT COULD BE TAKEN AS ADVICE TO THE SUPREME COURT.

THIS IS HOW WE FEEL AS A CITY.

NOW THAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS RULED AND GIVEN THE STATES AUTHORITY, THIS LOOKS LIKE INSURRECTION AGAINST THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND HAVING TALKED WITH, AS I SAID, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, I'M NOT SURE GO WILL GO VERY WELL WITH ANY OF YOU WHO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

AT THE VERY LEAST, TAKE THE TIME TO GET SOME ADVICE FROM A CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER.

DON'T GET YOUR ADVICE FROM AN ENGLISH PROFESSOR WHEN IT COMES TO LEGAL ADVICE.

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YOU'VE GOT SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS HERE AND IT'S TIME TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON AND TRY TO REACH SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS IN THIS TOWN BASED UPON WHAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED, INSTEAD OF PUSHING THROUGH SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE WHAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS RULED ON.

AND SO IT'S DEEPLY DISTURBING TO ME TO READ THIS, WHICH WILL JUST FURTHER DIVIDE THE PEOPLE OF DENTON.

AND THIS IS A COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE A HISTORY OF UNITY, NOT DIVISION.

AS I SAID, WE WE WE HAVE COME TOGETHER TO SOLVE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST BY FORMING A CONSENSUS.

AND THIS IS NOT DOING THAT.

IT'S JUST DIVIDING OUR PEOPLE.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO RUSH INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BRIANNA.

AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE GINGER CAIN AFTER BRIANNA.

THANK YOU. DO I JUST SAY MY NAME? YES. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS BRIANNA BRANSCOMBE.

I AM NOT ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE STATING MY FULL ADDRESS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THE VICTIM OF STALKING, BUT MY ZIP CODE IS 76201.

I BELIEVE YOU ARE MY REPRESENTATIVE, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE HARD FIGURING THAT OUT ONLINE.

I MOVED TO DENTON IN 2020.

I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT. I GO TO U.A..

I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE I MOVED HERE.

I RECOGNIZE THAT ABORTION IS A VERY CONTENTIOUS AND DEEPLY RIFE WITH POLITICAL DIVIDE, AS HAS BEEN NOTED TODAY.

BUT I WANT TO COME TO YOU ALL AND SPEAK TO YOU ALL FROM A HUMAN PERSPECTIVE AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

I WAS RAPED WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.

THE CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE I ENDURED CAUSED ME TO START MY PERIOD WHEN I WAS NINE YEARS OLD.

I WAS ASSAULTED AGAIN WHEN I WAS 12 AND I WAS ASSAULTED AGAIN WHEN I WAS 13.

SINCE MOVING TO DENTON, I HAVE BEEN THE VICTIM OF REPEAT ASSAULTS.

I HAVE BEEN STALKED.

I HAVE BEEN HARASSED.

I HAVE BEEN INTIMIDATED.

I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS BILL BECAUSE THE THOUGHT THAT ANY OF THOSE ASSAULTS AGAINST ME AS A CHILD AND AS A GROWN WOMAN, THE THOUGHT THAT ANY OF THAT SHOULD RESULT IN ME BEING FORCED TO CARRY A CHILD IS HORRIFIC.

A LARGE PORTION OF MY LIFE HAS BEEN DEFINED BY THE ASSAULTS AGAINST ME, BY VIOLATIONS AND BY FORCE.

THE OVERTURNING OF ROE AND THE TRIGGER LAW PUT IN PLACE BY OUR TEXAS LEGISLATION WOULD CONTINUE THAT CYCLE OF ABUSE OF VIOLATION AND FORCE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS OF THE LEGAL LANGUAGE IN THIS RESOLUTION, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS A PRIORITY ISSUE WITH OUR POLICE FORCE.

I HAVE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE THAT I WAS STALKED BY A REPEAT SEXUAL OFFENDER LAST YEAR FROM NOVEMBER TO DECEMBER.

I CALLED THE POLICE EVERY SINGLE TIME I SAW THAT MAN AND I WAS TOLD BY SEVERAL OFFICERS THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO, THAT HE WOULD JUST GO TO COUNTY JAIL AND GET OUT AGAIN AND GET OUT AGAIN AND GET OUT AGAIN.

SO THAT THE BEST THING I COULD DO WAS TO AVOID THE SQUARE WHERE I WORK.

IT IS EXTREMELY EASY TO PROTECT YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

IT IS EXTREMELY EASY TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS BY VOTING ON THIS LEGISLATION IF IT NEEDS TO GET LEGALLY AMENDED TO MOVE FORWARD.

THAT I AM COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO RUSH INTO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO GET REPEALED, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

MY LIFE MATTERED WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD, AND IT MATTERED WHEN I WAS 12 AND IT MATTERED WHEN I WAS 13.

AND IT MATTERS NOW.

I DO NOT THINK THAT RAPE AND VIOLATION ARE THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS FOR ABORTION.

I THINK THAT SOMEBODY'S RIGHT TO THEIR BODY IS THEIR RIGHT TO THEIR BODY.

BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONTEXT.

IT HAPPENS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

IT HAPPENS IN YOUR BACKYARD.

DENTON IS STRIFE WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT.

PLEASE PROTECT OUR RIGHTS TO OUR BODIES.

THANK YOU. GINGER.

GINGER CAIN. IF YOU CAN.

IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES.

OKAY. AND THE NEXT IS DARRIN, DARRYL LIPINSKI AND MY CLOSE OK.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT OK.

GINGER CAIN, 1600 CHURCHILL DRIVE, DENTON, TEXAS 76209.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I REALLY WISH THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD START FOCUSING ON WHAT CITY COUNCILS NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON.

AND YOU'RE NOT.

IT REALLY SOUNDED LIKE DEB WROTE THAT RESOLUTION.

SHE'S NOT EVEN ON COUNCIL ANYMORE, SO THAT'S KIND OF UPSETTING AS WELL.

SHE'S UP HERE SAYING WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE ALL ABOUT, AND I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

[04:10:04]

IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS BREAKING RULES AS THEY GO AHEAD AND DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THIS BODY AND ATTACK PEOPLE BY NAME.

THAT IS INCORRECT TO DO THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE'S VERY FEW.

96% OF THE ABORTIONS ARE DONE BECAUSE OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC REASONS.

THEY'RE NOT. THERE ARE VERY FEW HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND YOUNG KIDS THAT WIND UP HAVING ABORTIONS.

THAT'S NOT THE MAJORITY OF THE ABORTIONS.

IT'S WITH WOMEN THAT ARE IN THEIR EARLY THIRTIES.

MOST OF THE TIME, THE REASONS ARE THAT THAT ARE GIVEN OR BECAUSE THAT THEY DON'T THEY LOST THEIR JOB.

MAYBE THEY GOT A DIVORCE.

CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGED.

BUT I WANT YOU TO JUST IMAGINE YOURSELF RIGHT NOW THAT CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE FOR US ALL THE TIME, DON'T THEY? EVEN WHEN WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT ARE TWO, THREE, FOUR.

IF YOU HAVE KIDS, THINK ABOUT THOSE KIDS BEFORE YOU VOTE.

THINK ABOUT YOUR LOVED ONES.

NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK? WE SAID OK BECAUSE YOU LOST YOUR JOB TO TAKE THAT TWO YEAR OLD.

DOES THAT JUSTIFY THE END IN THAT TWO YEAR OLD'S LIFE? BECAUSE NOW THEN THINGS ARE ECONOMICALLY HARD FOR YOU? I DON'T THINK SO.

SO THINK ABOUT WHAT ABORTION IS LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU EVER WITNESSED TWO ABORTIONS ON VIDEO.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.

IT'S NOT A PLEASANT THING TO SEE.

A NEEDLE IS GOING INTO THE BACK OF THE BABY'S HEAD WITH PULLING OUT THE BRAIN, THAT KIND OF THING, SUCKING OUT BODY PARTS.

IMAGINE THAT HAPPENING TO ONE OF YOUR LOVED ONES, PEOPLE.

THOSE ARE LIVES IT'S YOU ROLL UP INTO.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GET VACCINATED.

WE NEED TO KNOW IF THEY ARE WE NEED THEY NEED TO BE WEARING MASKS.

WHY? WELL, GINGER, BECAUSE IT PROTECTS OTHER PEOPLE.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE HAVING ABORTIONS BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER PERSON INSIDE THAT PERSON'S BODY.

ONCE THAT THAT TAKES PLACE, YOU'VE MADE YOUR CHOICE.

AND WHEN YOU ENGAGE IN THINGS IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY THAT WINDS UP WITH CONCEPTION.

SO IT'S NOT ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS TO TAKE THE BABY'S LIFE.

AND I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.

PRO-LIFE FROM WOMB TO TOMB AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY TO.

SO I'M VERY CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

BUT I REALLY WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT YOUR VOTE BECAUSE IT REALLY HAS NO LEGS ANYWAY, BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE STATE.

IT DIDN'T GO TO THE CITY OF DENTON.

THANK YOU. SO, DARYL, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN NEXT WOULD BE RICHARD BEATTIE, AFTER DARRELL.

AFTER DALE. CAN YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. SURE.

DARRYL LIPINSKI, 2911 STANDING MONICA DRIVE.

I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEM, REDUCING THE FOCUS AND RESOURCES, OR YOU MIGHT SAY LESS PRIORITY FOR THE ABORTION CLINICS, OR I THINK YOU MENTIONED AS HEALTH CARE FACILITIES.

AND I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T PLAN ON SPEAKING TODAY.

I WOULD ADDRESS LIKE YOU GUYS, FINE PEOPLE.

I WOULD STAY IN MY WORK CLOTHES, BUT I FIGURED I'D TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL, SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND A LIFE LESSON.

BUT I GUESS WE PICKED A LUCKY DAY.

BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IT FROM NOT A POLITICAL VIEW.

I GUESS YOU GOT YOUR HANDS FULL WITH THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE, THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.

I IMAGINE YOUR NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WILL BE FULL OF THAT.

I WANT TO ADDRESS IT MORE FROM JUST A COMMON SENSE LEGAL QUESTION.

WHEN I READ THE AGENDA ITEM, I WAS LOOKING AT GOING, DOES IT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM LIKE, HEY, IF YOU HAD TO GO OUT AND TRY TO LOOK FOR WHO SELLING DRUGS, IT TAKE A LOT OF RESOURCES TO TRY TO FIND THAT.

BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ABORTION CLINIC, I MEAN, YOU YOU LOOK AT IT AND WHO'S PAYING THE TAXES? THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO BUY A BUILDING.

RIGHT. THEY OR THEY'RE RENTING IT.

THAT WOULD BE CITY RECORDS.

THEY WOULD PAY TAXES.

THE PEOPLE IN THERE WOULD BE PAYING TAXES.

YOU'D HAVE SIGNS, SIGNS RIGHT THERE.

YOU WOULD HAVE SIGNS ON THE STREET.

EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND HECK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO TECHNICALLY WE'RE PREGNANT WITH THE INFORMATION, RIGHT? SO MY BASIC LEGAL QUESTION AND I'M THINKING ABOUT IT IS WOULDN'T THIS BE ACCESSORY TO A CRIME? SO IF I HAD A FRIEND WHO STOLE MONEY AND I SAID NOTHING, I COULD BE HELD FOR ACCESSORY OF A CRIME.

SO IF THERE IS A STATE LAW THAT'S OUT THERE, LIKE IT OR NOT, THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT SAYS IT AND WE TAKE A BLIND EYE TO IT OR REDUCING THE FOCUS OR LESS PRIORITY WHEREVER WE WANT TO CALL IT IT.

WOULDN'T THAT BE CALLED ACCESSORY? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, RICHARD.

[04:15:03]

RICHARD BEATTY. AND THEN NEXT WILL BE MATT MATT PANETTA.

THANK YOU. IT'S RICHARD BEATTY DOING LIVE AT 2217 BURNING TREE LANE IN DENTON.

I'LL BE BRIEF. I'M JUST ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS RESOLUTION.

I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF THE COUNCIL'S TIME, AND IT'S A WASTE OF DENTON'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS AGAINST THE STATE LAW.

THE STATE LAW TRIUMPHS OVER CITY LAW, AND NO MATTER WHAT RESOLUTION WE POST, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE STATE LAW.

IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE STATE LAW, THEN GO TO THE CUT TO THE STATE AND TRY TO CHANGE IT THERE.

BUT DON'T LET DENTON BECOME AN ANTI EVERYTHING CITY.

WE TRIED THAT WITH FRACKING.

IT DIDN'T WORK. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER LAWSUIT BROUGHT AGAINST THEN, BECAUSE WE'RE STANDING AGAINST STATE LAW.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MATT PANETTA. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE ALISSA G.

AFTER MATT. HI, MATT. 1225 TULANE DRIVE, DENTON, TEXAS.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION.

AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK COUNSELOR MCGUIRE FOR BRINGING FORTH PROBABLY THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND AND PROTECTING US FROM UNFUNDED ACTIVIST OVERREACH IN AUSTIN.

RIGHT. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IS TAXPAYERS.

I'M A TAXPAYER. YOU GUYS REAL TAXPAYERS IS NOT ACTUALLY PROVIDED ANY FUNDING FOR OUR POLICE TO DO THIS AND TO PROSECUTE A CASE LIKE THIS.

I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'D HAVE TO CONFISCATE COMPUTERS, TELEPHONES, THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH MESSAGES, THERE'D HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF DECRYPTION, THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ITINERARIES, THEY'D HAVE TO GET MEDICAL RECORDS.

AND THAT'S GOT TO COST. HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, RIGHT? HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TAX DOLLARS? MY TAX DOLLARS.

YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

OUR TAX DOLLARS.

AND I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO THAT.

RIGHT. I MEAN, LAST NIGHT I WAS AT A I WAS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND THE PEOPLE SPEAKING THERE LAST NIGHT WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.

THEIR CONCERNS WERE TRAFFIC SAFETY, ANIMAL CONTROL, RESPONSE TIMES TO VIOLENT CRIME AND TYPES OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

NO ONE NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON ASKED FOR POLICE INTERDICTION INTO ABORTION.

NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CARE ABOUT THAT ARE THE THINGS THAT OUR TAX DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, MATTER ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TOWARD FINDING ILLEGAL STREET RACERS ON THE GROUND IN OUR TOWN.

RIGHT. I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO FIXING THE STREETS.

I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS.

I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS.

I WANT MY DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GIVE US A REPORT EVERY WEEK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE FROM GETTING SHOT.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT IS PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS THIS AND I KIND OF HOPE YOU GUYS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.

I KNOW LAST NIGHT THE MAYOR RENEWED HIS PLEDGE THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT SHEPHERD OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND KEEP OUR TAXES DOWN.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THANK YOU FOR THAT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S THAT KIND OF THINKING THAT KIND OF KEEPS US FROM HAVING TO PAY EXTRA MONEY FOR THINGS THAT DON'T ACTUALLY HELP THE CITY OF DENTON.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S NOTHING TO THIS.

IT'S JUST A D PRIORITIZATION, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST ASKING OUR POLICE NOT TO SPEND A TON OF MONEY ON THIS KIND OF THING.

AND I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO VOTE FOR THIS.

SO I SUPPORT THIS AND I HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, RUNNING ON SOCIAL AGENDAS AND, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE TAX AND SPEND CONSERVATISM THAT'S HAPPENING IN AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, I OPPOSE IT.

I HOPE YOU GUYS TO PROTECT MY TAX DOLLARS.

YOU KNOW, AND BY THE WAY, NEXT TIME YOU'RE IN, I KNOW YOU HAVE A CONSERVATIVE BASE DOWN IN THE SOUTH.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU REMIND THEM THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AFTER THEIR TAX DOLLARS NEXT TIME YOU'RE ON.

THANK YOU, ALISSA G.

IF YOU CAN COME UP, ALISSA G AND THEN SHAYNA MURPHY WOULD BE NEXT AFTER ALISSA.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. MELISSA GROSSMAN.

SORRY. I'M GOING TO.

CAN YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? THANKS. SORRY.

LET'S SAY GROSSMAN.

MY ADDRESS IS 521 AUSTIN DRIVE, DENTON, TEXAS.

I'M SORRY. I LIKE YOUR PROBLEM.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY STRONG, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

SO I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT YOUR PROPOSALS.

[04:20:09]

I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR EVERYONE.

AS SOMEONE WHO WAS RAISED EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE CATHOLIC IN A MEXICAN HOUSEHOLD.

I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND THAT ABORTION IS COMPLETELY AGAINST OUR RELIGION.

IT IS COMPLETELY AGAINST THE MEXICAN LIFESTYLE AT ALL.

SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE BASICALLY GROWN UP IN, I HATE TO SAY, BUT BRAINWASHED.

AT THE AGE OF 16, I HAD AN UNWANTED PREGNANCY, COMPLETELY UNPLANNED PREGNANCY, AND UNFORTUNATELY TERMINATION WAS MEDICALLY NECESSARY FOR ME.

WITHOUT THE PROCEDURE, I WOULD HAVE PHYSICALLY COLLAPSED AND DIED BECAUSE OF THE MEDICAL SUPPORT, BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BECAUSE THERE ARE REGULATIONS IN PLACE.

I WAS ABLE TO GET THE MEDICAL CARE THAT I NEEDED.

AND ALL I CAN SAY IS I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF US, WHETHER YOU'RE A GENDER, NON GENDER, NON-BINARY BINARY, I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF US SHOULD MAKE OUR OWN PERSONAL DECISIONS BASED ON OUR OWN PERSONAL HEALTH CARE, ESPECIALLY IN SUPPORT OF MEDICAL RELATED SITUATIONS.

WE ALL HAVE VERY PERSONAL OPINIONS ABOUT CERTAIN SITUATIONS, THIS BEING ONE OF THEM.

AND I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOUR PERSPECTIVE WILL CHANGE.

UNTIL YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO DEAL WITH IT, YOUR PERSPECTIVE WILL CHANGE.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF YOUR BILL.

AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BODILY AUTONOMY FOR THEMSELVES.

THANK YOU. GOOD.

SHANE MURPHY, IF YOU CAN COME.

AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE LET'S GRECO.

SO, MR. GRECO, YOU WOULD BE NEXT AFTER THE SPEAKER.

IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES.

HELLO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS SHANNA MURPHY.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I TYPICALLY DO.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

OH 4208 FOUR NITA PLACE, DENTON, TEXAS.

THANK YOU. I LIVE IN SOUTH DENTON, OK, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS TYPICALLY NOT SOMETHING I WOULD TALK ABOUT BECAUSE I'M A MOTHER.

I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN.

ONE OF THOSE BEING SPECIAL NEEDS.

I WAS MOLESTED AT TEN YEARS OLD.

THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN ASHAMED OF MY WHOLE LIFE.

FORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T GET PREGNANT.

IT WAS BY A FAMILY MEMBER.

THIS IS ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS TO SPEAK OF.

IT'S PERSONAL.

IF I HAD GOTTEN PREGNANT, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE LIVED WHEN I TRIED TO HAVE MY FIRST CHILD.

I WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE THAT CHILD NATURALLY.

I HAD TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY C-SECTION AND MY BABY ALMOST DIED.

OBVIOUSLY, I LOVE CHILDREN BECAUSE I WENT AHEAD AND HAD THREE MORE.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAD A SON WITH DOWN'S SYNDROME.

I HE'S THE BIGGEST BLESSING OF MY LIFE.

BUT THESE ARE MY CHOICES.

IT'S NOT YOUR CHOICE TO DECIDE WHAT A WOMAN DOES WITH THEIR BODY.

SO I AM BEGGING YOU TO BE.

KEEP YOUR MINDS OPEN TO THIS.

THIS IS A PERSONAL DECISION FOR ALL WOMEN.

PLEASE VOTE YES TO THIS PROPOSAL.

WE SHOULD NOT BE WASTING MONEY FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO BE FINDING PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING A PERSONAL CHOICE.

AND THE FUNDS.

IT'S WASTED FUNDS AND WASTED TAX DOLLARS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MISS MISS GRECO.

MISS. MISS GRECO.

MISS GRECO. YEAH.

THINK OF YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

HELLO AGAIN. EVA GRECO, 802 WEST OAK STREET IN DENTON.

WOW. WHAT A LOW BLOW FOR HUMANITY, HUH?

[04:25:02]

WOW. QUICK STORY.

TRUE STORY.

YOUNGER PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW THE FAMOUS SINGER BY THE NAME OF FRANK SINATRA, WHO LIVED IN HOBOKEN, NEW JERSEY.

HIS MOTHER WAS A KNOWN MIDWIFE, PERFORMED ABORTIONS IN THE BASEMENT OF HER APARTMENT OR BEFORE ROE VERSUS WADE.

THIS IS WHAT WAS GOING ON BACK THEN.

THIS IS WHAT WOMEN WERE HAD TO GO THROUGH.

AND BY OVERTURNING THIS, NOT ONLY ARE ADOPTION AGENCIES OR FOSTER HOMES, THEY ARE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS WITH THE POOR CHILDREN.

AND VERY FEW FOSTER CARE IS SO OVERBURDENED.

THE CASEWORKERS FOR FOSTER CARE CAN'T EVEN.

HOW MANY CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE ARE BEING KILLED BY FOSTER PARENTS? BUT WE ARE NOW BEING TOLD YOU HAVE TO GIVE BIRTH TO THAT CHILD.

AND HOW MANY OF THOSE CHILDREN WILL BE PUT INTO FOSTER CARE AND ADOPTION AGENCIES AND THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF GOVERNMENT DOLLARS THAT NOW HAVE TO BE SPENT ON THESE CHILDREN? OK IT'S SAD.

IT IS VERY SAD.

I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP IT SHORT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. ALISON MAGUIRE THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JUSTICE STEPHEN BREYER.

JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR.

JUSTICE ELENA KAGAN.

JUSTICE JOHN G.

ROBERTS, JR.

THESE ARE THE JUSTICES THAT VOTED TO UPHOLD AND NOT OVERTURN ROE VERSUS WADE.

TO BRETT KAVANAUGH WHO VOTED TO OVERTURN ROE VERSUS WADE.

I AM GOING TO QUOTE WHAT HE SAID.

STATES SHOULD NOT BLOCK PEOPLE FROM TRAVELING TO GET AN ABORTION.

CITING THE CITING THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO INTERSTATE TRAVEL.

ISN'T THAT A KICK IN THE FACE? YOU'RE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO INTERSTATE TRAVEL, BUT NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT FOR AN ABORTION.

WHERE DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THIS IS AN ELECTION INTELLIGENT PERSON.

SO THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE DAYS FINISHING UP.

IF WE GET THE MIX NEXT, THESE ARE THE MEDICAL.

SO IF YOU CAN GET THE THE NEXT GROUP TWO WOULD BE CAROL NOVELLI.

NOVELL. CAROL NOVELL.

MS.. MS.. GRECO.

MS.. GRECO. MS..

GRECO, IF YOU'D BE SO KIND.

THANK YOU. CAROL NOVELLI.

CAROL NOVELLI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE KURT FOWLER AFTER HER.

THINK OF YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

SURE. CAROL NOVELLI, 3518, VALLEY VIEW ROAD IN DENTON.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'VE BEEN WORKING TO PROTECT THE PREBORN IN THE WOMB, AND I'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING TO HELP AND SUPPORT THE BOURN FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

WHAT BROUGHT ME TO A REAL REALITY ABOUT ABORTION WAS ACTUALLY SEEING THE VICTIM OF AN ABORTION, THE BROKEN BODY OF A LITTLE BABY. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IMAGES.

I AM TALKING ABOUT AN ACTUAL ABORTED CHILD HELD IN MY HAND THAT I FOUND LEFT BEHIND AT AN ABORTION CLINIC IN A CITY WHERE I USED TO LIVE.

LET ME TELL YOU, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ABORTION AND WORDS LIKE CHOICE OR ROE, THOSE WORDS FADED FROM MY MIND.

AND WORDS LIKE HUMAN AND PERSON AND PAIN AND HORROR CAME INTO MY MEMORY.

I WILL NEVER GET THAT IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD.

WHEN I FIRST OPENED UP THE LITTLE GAUZE SACK THAT THAT CHILD WAS VICIOUSLY SUCKED INTO, I THE VERY FIRST BODY PART I SAW WAS A FULLY FORMED ARM NOT ATTACHED TO A BODY.

THAT LITTLE FIRST TRIMESTER BABY, THAT LITTLE ARM WAS SUCKED COMPLETELY OFF OF THE CHILD'S BODY.

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THE LITTLE FACE AND THE FEET.

YOU COULD EVEN SEE THE LITTLE FINGERS.

A VERY EARLY ABORTION.

I CAN DISTINCTLY REMEMBER THE WAY THAT BLOOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT LITTLE CONTAINER AND THE FORMALDEHYDE IN WHICH IT WAS STORED AND NOT HUMANELY DISPOSED OF.

BY THE WAY, THAT'S HOW I CAME ACROSS IT, BECAUSE IT WASN'T DISPOSED OF PROPERLY, WHICH IS VERY COMMON IN THE ABORTION INDUSTRY.

BUT THAT BABY, I CAN REMEMBER HOW IT SMELLED AND IT WILL NEVER LEAVE MY MIND.

WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THAT LITTLE BABY I SAW FULLY FORMED BODY PARTS, LITTLE RIBS, FEET, SKULLS.

THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BODILY AUTONOMY.

DON'T FORGET THE BODY OF THE LITTLE CHILD AS WELL.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER.

TO QUOTE ONE ABORTION DOCTOR HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS BY THE NAME OF DR.

CURTIS BOYD.

HE COMMITS ABORTIONS AT THE SOUTHWEST WOMEN'S CENTER RIGHT IN TARRANT COUNTY, FORT WORTH.

AND HE SAID THIS ON WFAA.

I AM KILLING THOSE ARE HIS WORDS.

THAT IS NOT A PRO-LIFE STATEMENT.

THAT IS THE WORDS OF AN ABORTION DOCTOR WHO'S BEEN, BY THE WAY, PROBABLY THE FOUNDER OF THE ABORTION INDUSTRY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

HE DID THEM ILLEGALLY, AND HE'S ONE OF THE OLDEST ABORTIONISTS IN THIS STATE.

SO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IN 2019, THERE WERE.

I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. SO I'M JUST GOING TO FINISH BY SAYING, PLEASE OPPOSE THIS RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CURT FOWLER.

CURT FOWLER. HE CAN COME DOWN AND THEN DONNA SMITH WOULD BE AFTER CURT.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS KURT FOWLER AND I LIVE AT 1021 HOYT HERE IN DENTON.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I WAS READING THROUGH THIS AGENDA ITEM AND SOMETHING TWO THINGS STRUCK ME.

THE FIRST ONE WAS THE SENTENCE ABOUT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT INTERFERING IN THEIR PRIVATE MEDICAL DECISIONS, AND THEY DON'T WANT THEIR TAX DOLLARS BEING SPENT TO INVESTIGATE THEIR OR THEIR NEIGHBORS PRIVATE MEDICAL DECISIONS.

I WILL SAY MUCH AS THE LADY DID BEFORE ME, THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE MEDICAL DECISION.

THERE IS A BABY INSIDE THE MOTHER WHO HAS NO SAY IN THE DECISION.

I HAVE A FEELING I KNOW WHAT THEIR ANSWER WOULD BE.

THE NEXT THING THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDS AGAINST THE USE OF CITY FUNDS AND OTHER RESOURCES TO INVESTIGATE, CATALOG OR REPORT SUSPECTED ABORTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION TO THAT.

DOES THIS MEAN THAT CRIMES CAN BE COMMITTED WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES OR WITHOUT INVESTIGATION? ARE YOU MORE OR LESS TRYING TO LEGALIZE ABORTION? CONTRARY TO THE STATE LAW.

SOME 139 VERSUS 13 AND 14.

HERE IT IS. THIS IS DAVID TALKING TO GOD FOR YOU FORMED MY INWARD PARTS.

YOU WOVE ME IN MY MOTHER'S WOMB.

I WILL GIVE THANKS TO YOU.

FOR I AM FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE.

WONDERFUL ARE YOUR WORKS AND MY SOUL KNOWS IT VERY WELL.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS REJECTED.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO DONNA.

DONNA SMITH.

AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE CARRIE CARRUTHERS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M DONNA SMITH AND I LIVE AT 3924 YELLOWSTONE HERE IN DENTON.

AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

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AND I OPPOSE THIS RESOLUTION FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

AND ONE OF THEM IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR BODY DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, BECAUSE WHEN THE SUPREME COURT SENT THE ROBES, ABOLISHED ROE V WADE, AND SENT THIS ISSUE BACK TO THE STATES, THIS WILL BE TALKED ABOUT IN AUSTIN.

SO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE OPINIONS FOR IT, AGAINST IT, NEED TO SPEAK TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.

THIS NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE IN AUSTIN, NOT IN DENTON, TEXAS.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL FOR US.

SO IF WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION, IS THE STATE THEN GOING TO SUE US? I WORK VERY HARD FOR MY MONEY AND I PAY TAXES HERE AND I WILL NOT BE HAPPY IF THIS THIS COUNCIL HAS TO PAY LEGAL FEES BECAUSE WE GOT REBELLIOUS AND DECIDED WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST.

THIS IS A STATE MATTER.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE YOUR PASSION, YOUR PROTEST DOWN TO AUSTIN.

I WILL, TOO.

AND LET'S MAKE THIS ABOUT THIS COUNCIL DEAL WITH WHAT WE NEED HERE IN DENTON.

WE NEED THE POLICE.

WE DON'T NEED ABORTION CLINICS.

IF WE CAN GET THEM ALL SHUT DOWN, THIS WILL BE GREAT.

THE BABY THAT'S BEING TORN APART HAS A SEPARATE BODY FROM THE MOTHER.

AND I HAVE GREAT COMPASSION FOR WOMEN WHO FIND THEMSELVES IN A PREGNANCY THEY DIDN'T PLAN OR WAS FORCED ON THEM.

THAT'S HORRIFIC.

THAT'S HORRIFIC.

BUT THERE ARE PLACES THAT CAN HELP.

THE BABY DOES NOT NEED TO BE EXECUTED BECAUSE THE MOTHER WAS HARMED.

THE BABY SHOULD NOT HAVE A PAY A DEATH PENALTY BECAUSE THE FATHER WAS HORRIBLE.

BUT THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T NEED A LAWSUIT.

KEEP OUR MONEY HERE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR ROADS AND OUR PEOPLE.

NOT A LAWSUIT, BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME VERY MUCH.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

AND I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO CAME TO PROTEST TODAY.

I DISAGREE WITH THEM, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO, AND I'M GRATEFUL THEY DID.

BUT I'M HERE ASKING YOU TO SAY NO TO THE RESOLUTION AND DON'T PUT IT OFF UNTIL ANOTHER TIME.

JUST SAY NO, DON'T WAIT.

DON'T MAKE PEOPLE COME OUT AGAIN AND AND PROTEST AND FUSS.

JUST SAY NO TO IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, TERRY CARRUTHERS.

AND THE NEXT WILL BE JAN LOPEZ.

GOOD EVENING, ALL.

I'M GOING TO BE LOUD SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME IN THE BACK.

MY NAME IS KERRY CARRUTHERS.

I LIVE AT 2101 SAVANNA TRAIL IN DENTON.

I'VE LIVED HERE AND BREATHED THERE WITH MY HUSBAND FOR 30 YEARS.

THE OVERTURNING OF ROE HAS BEEN ROUGH FOR A LOT OF US.

THIS IS JUST THE MOST BASIC PART OF MY STORY.

IT'S MISSING A LOT OF DETAILS BECAUSE I NEED MORE THAN 3 MINUTES.

BUT HERE IT IS.

I HAD AN ABORTION AT 23 WEEKS AND THREE DAYS AFTER MULTIPLE TESTS OVER A SIX WEEK PERIOD AND AFTER MULTIPLE MISCARRIAGES BEFORE THAT, TRYING TO HAVE A BABY.

SO LET'S ROLL BACK AT 16 WEEKS.

SOMETHING WAS DETECTED IN MY SONOGRAM.

OUR SONOGRAM, MINE AND MY HUSBAND'S SONOGRAM.

THE ONE WHERE WE FOUND OUT THE GENDER ASSIST.

THE DOCTOR SAID THERE'S A CYST ON THE BABY'S HEAD AT 16 WEEKS.

A FETUS IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF AN APPLE.

IT WILL DOUBLE IN SIZE IN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS.

TOMMY, MY HUSBAND FOREVER FROM THAT DAY, HAD A BAD FEELING.

I DISMISSED IT.

IT'S JUST A CYST ON HIS HEAD.

THEN THEY TOLD US.

OH, AND IT'S A BOY.

FOUR WEEKS LATER, TOOK FOUR WEEKS TO GET INTO A SPECIALIST TO GET THE NEXT TEST THAT I NEEDED DONE FOUR WEEKS AT 20 WEEKS, THREE D, LEVEL TWO SONOGRAM AND THEN AN AMNIO.

THE NEW DOCTOR SAID THIS IS BAD.

IT'S NOT A CYST.

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THE BRAIN HAS FORMED ENTIRELY OUTSIDE OF THE SKULL AND THEY ADMONISH MY REGULAR DOCTOR FOR NOT BEING HONEST FOR WEEKS PRIOR.

AT 22 WEEKS, WE HAD A FETAL MRI.

YES, I WAS PRIVILEGED.

I GOT INTO UT SOUTHWEST BY MIRACLE AND A GROUP OF FETAL SPECIALISTS AT UT.

SOUTHWEST SAID THIS IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION.

THEY COLLECTIVELY AGREED THAT WE SHOULD TERMINATE.

I WASN'T CARRYING THE BABY.

I HAD A BUNCH OF CELLS WITH A MALFORMED BRAIN OUTSIDE OF A SKULL WITH A [EXPLETIVE] HEARTBEAT.

YES, A HEARTBEAT.

THAT WAS NOTHING.

AND MY DOCTOR WAS NEVER HONEST ABOUT THE SEVERITY.

HE WAS A MANIPULATIVE LIAR AND HE'S STILL IN DENTON.

AND AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOCTORS NAMES, HIS NAME IS DR.

DANIEL MCDONALD.

SO ABORTION WAS MY CHOICE.

I WOULD NOT CHANGE IT.

YOU DO YOU.

I'LL DO ME.

IF THIS HAPPENS TO SOMEBODY NOW, YOUR ONLY LEGAL CHOICE IS TO CARRY IT TO TERM AND SEE SOMETHING SUFFER ITS DEATH.

THAT IS, IF AND ONLY IF THE HEARTBEAT CONTINUES TO THE END OF THE PREGNANCY.

AND THAT'S YOUR TIME. YOU HAVE TO SIT AND WATCH THAT BABY DIE IN YOUR ARMS. JAN LOPEZ.

THANK YOU, ALISON.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS IN FRONT OF IT.

THANK, MS..

MS.. MS.. CARRUTHERS.

JAN. JAN, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, PLEASE.

JAN LOPEZ. NO GOING ONCE.

THEN SHANNON DRAPER.

AFTER SHANNON IS JENNIFER LANE.

HI. MY NAME IS SHANNON DRAPER.

I LIVE ON 1300 WOODLAKE DRIVE IN CORINTH.

76210, WHICH IS STILL DENTON.

SO I'M NOT A POLITICAL SPEAKER BY ANY MEANS.

BUT THE DEFINITION OF FEMINISM IS THE POLITICAL, ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL EQUALITY FOR ALL HUMANS.

EVERYONE, YOU AND YOU.

I'VE HAD TWO ABORTIONS IN MY LIFE.

VERY PERSONAL.

ONE. WHEN I WAS 17, I WAS A CHILD.

MY MOM REFUSED TO GIVE ME BIRTH CONTROL BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IF SHE DIDN'T PUT ME ON BIRTH CONTROL, I WOULD STOP HAVING SEX.

CLEARLY, TEENAGERS DON'T DO THAT.

I GOT PREGNANT WITH AT THAT TIME WAS NOT MY HUSBAND, BUT HE WAS MY HUSBAND LATER.

BUT I GOT PREGNANT AT 17 AND I WAS LOST.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.

WE HAD TO DRIVE.

I LIVED HERE.

WE HAD TO DRIVE TO AUSTIN TO GET AN ABORTION.

SO WE HAD TO MAKE THE FUNDS TO DRIVE AND FIND A.

I MADE THE DECISION.

WE HAD PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS AND TESTS DONE TO MAKE SURE I WAS OF SOUND MIND.

AND WE DID IT.

IT HURTS ME EVERY DAY.

EVERY DAY, BECAUSE THEN I GOT MARRIED TO HIM, AND THEN I THOUGHT, WOW, HOW WOULD OUR LIFE BE THEN? I DON'T KNOW. BUT I KNOW THAT MY LIFE WAS BETTER.

I STARTED I STARTED WORKING IN THE HOSPITAL.

I STARTED BEING A PRODUCTIVE HUMAN.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANY DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, NO, WHEN MY SECOND SON HAPPENED, MY HUSBAND HAD AN AFFAIR BECAUSE I WAS TOO FAT FOR HIM AND HE DECIDED TO GO CHEAT. AND HE FOUND OUT I WAS PREGNANT WHEN I FOUND OUT.

EIGHT WEEKS IN. AND HE ASKED ME THE FIRST QUESTION WHEN I SAID, HEY, I'M PREGNANT.

HE SAID, FIRST QUESTION HOW? AND I SAID, HOW, [EXPLETIVE].

SORRY FOR MY WORDS.

YOU. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS? I ASKED ABOUT MARRIAGE COUNSELING.

I ASKED ABOUT EVERYTHING TO DO, EVERYTHING I COULD.

AND HE SAID I HAD THREE OPTIONS ABORTION, ADOPTION, OR CHILD SUPPORT.

THAT MAN COULDN'T EVEN PAY HIS STUDENT LOANS.

DO YOU THINK HE WOULD PAY CHILD SUPPORT? SO WHERE WAS I GOING TO BE LEFT? WELL, HE RAN OFF BECAUSE I WAS TOO FAT FOR HIM.

WHERE WAS HE GOING TO BE? SO MY OTHER WAS ADOPTION OR ABORTION? OK ADOPTION.

I WANTED TO TRY TO HAVE A BABY WITH THIS MAN AFTER 13 YEARS OF MARRIAGE, AFTER THE FIRST ONE, BEFORE WE WERE EVER MARRIED, AND HE KNEW HE WAS THERE FOR THAT ONE.

HE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HE STILL SAID, IT'S UP TO YOU, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.

WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU AS A WOMAN? THANK YOU SO.

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I CAN'T. I CAN'T GET TO YOU BEFORE YOU SAY THINGS THAT ARE LESS THAN GREAT LANGUAGE WISE AND EXPLETIVES.

BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE REEL THOSE IN.

WE DO HAVE MINORS IN THE ROOM.

IT IS PLAYED ON TV.

IT'S SAVED. SO IF WE COULD JUST TRY TO KEEP IT RATE RATED G OR LESS, AND THEN YOU CAN DO ALL THE EXPLETIVES YOU NEED WHEN YOU'RE NOT AT THE MIC, THAT'D BE FANTASTIC. BUT AGAIN, I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT, JUST MAKING MY REQUEST KNOWN BECAUSE IT'S CRINGE.

IT'S CRINGE. IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD? I'M NOT. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM.

JENNIFER LANE, ARE YOU HERE? JENNIFER LANE, ONE MORE TIME.

GREAT. THEN THAT JENNIFER SIMMONS.

THANK YOU. AND THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE.

LEON LAST NAME.

FIRST NAME STARTS WITH A M.

MARIA, MAYBE.

OK. GREAT, GREAT.

YOU'RE NEXT. FINGER YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES, PLEASE, AND THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS JENNIFER SIMMONS.

MY ADDRESS IS 3400 FALL MEADOW STREET.

DENTON, TEXAS, ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION.

IT'S NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION.

I KNOW THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC, DENTON DECIDED TO NOT DO SOME THINGS THAT TEXAS SAID WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND I'M VERY OBVIOUSLY A LAYPERSON, BUT SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE GOOD VOCABULARY.

BUT THERE WERE THERE WERE MANDATES AND THINGS THAT WE WERE THAT WE WERE TOLD TO DO.

BUT DENTON WAS ABLE TO KIND OF BE MORE PRO MASK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND YAHOO! SO I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON HOW THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP TO TEXAS LAW WORKS.

I THINK IF THERE WOULD BE MORE EDUCATION ON THAT, THEN IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALL INVOLVED.

MY JOB IS A MEDICAID BENEFIT SPECIALIST WITH ONE OF THE HOSPITALS IN DENTON COUNTY, AND WHEN I GOT THIS JOB I LEARNED THAT IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY HARD TO GET MEDICAID.

AND IF YOU COULD THINK OF AN INCOME THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE FOR ONE MONTH IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID, IF THAT NUMBER FOR A SINGLE PERSON IS OVER $200, THEN YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE.

THAT'S FOR ONE MONTH FOR A PERSON WHO IS PREGNANT.

THEY CAN MAKE ABOUT 1200 TO 1500 A MONTH.

I WOULD SO I AM FOR THIS PROPOSAL TO D PRIORITIZE.

BASED OFF OF WHAT I SEE IN THE HOSPITALS I WORK IN.

SO WHAT I SEE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD ANY KIND OF HEALTH CARE AND THEN THEY ARE NOT GIVEN ANY KIND OF HEALTH CARE BY THE STATE.

AND THAT ACTUALLY DOES NOT HELP OUR CITY AT ALL ON A FINANCIAL LEVEL.

OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T HELP THE PEOPLE ON A HUMAN LEVEL OR ON A FINANCIAL LEVEL.

HOSPITALS ARE LOSING REVENUE BASED OFF OF WHAT OUR CITIZENS CANNOT AFFORD AND BASED OFF OF WHAT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR BECAUSE OF TEXAS NOT BEING AN EXPANSION STATE.

WE ALSO HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF HOMELESS AND HOMELESSNESS DEFINITELY ALSO CAUSES A REVENUE ISSUE.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN HANGARS INVOLVED IN SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE GO TO ABORTIVE METHOD.

IT'S GOING TO BE CHEMICALS FOR THE MOST PART NOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE INTERNET AND CHEMICALS ARE GOING TO PUT YOU IN THE ICU, AND THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE MORE LONG TERM DAMAGE FOR THE PATIENT.

SO I AM IN FAVOR TO DECRIMINALIZE THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD HELP THERE BE LESS OF AN ISSUE WITH PATIENT INJURY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

FAIR, FAIR BREAK IN ACTION.

MISTER CITY ATTORNEY, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU COULD SAY GENERALLY ABOUT THE CITY OF DENTON BEING A, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GET THE RIGHT WORD WRONG, BUT ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE STATE OF TEXAS.

I THINK THAT IS A FAIR QUESTION TO KIND OF SET A FOUNDATION FOR THOSE THAT WOULD BE CURIOUS.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ENOUGH, GENERAL.

A CHARTER CITY. IS THAT RIGHT? HOME RULE. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

IF YOU COULD SET THAT, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH SETTING THAT KIND OF FOUNDATION, HOW THE CITY RELATES TO THE STATE, THAT'D BE APPRECIATED.

SURE. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE IT AND HAPPY TO DO SO A LOT, TOO, THAT TEXAS IS SET UP TO HAVE HOME RULE CITIES.

DENTON IS A HOME RULE CITY, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS WE HAVE FULL POWER AS A CITY TO DO ANY ACTIONS THAT WE WANT SHORT OF SOMETHING THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND SHORT AS

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SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SPECIFICALLY PREEMPTED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND SO UP UNTIL THOSE KIND OF BOUNDARY LINES THAT WE FIND, WE HAVE FULL AUTHORITY TO REGULATE WITHIN THE CITY.

THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IN RELATED TO THE MASKS AND RELATED TO GOVERNOR ABBOTT, ABBOTT'S MANDATE THAT CITIES NOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, THAT BECAME A LEGAL ISSUE BECAUSE A LOT OF CITIES WERE ARGUING THAT THAT WENT BEYOND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAD ALLOWED THE GOVERNOR TO DO.

AND SO THE CITIES WERE CHALLENGING THAT.

WE ENDED UP BEING SUED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE SUED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

A WEEK LATER, THE CITY COUNCIL REPEALED OUR MASK MANDATE.

SO BOTH THE CITY AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DISMISSED THEIR LAWSUITS AGAINST EACH OTHER SO IT WASN'T REALLY RESOLVED.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES STILL DEALING WITH THAT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM FROM WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, BECAUSE AT THAT ISSUE WAS REALLY THE LEGISLATURE GIVES THE AUTHORITY TO THE GOVERNOR TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

AND IT WAS A QUESTION OF HOW MUCH AUTHORITY DID HE HAVE.

SIMILAR QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH RELATED TO THIS.

HOW MUCH AUTHORITY DOES THE CITY HAVE TO TO TAKE ACTIONS THAT MAY BE CONTRARY TO WHAT THE STATE LAW REQUIRES OR MANDATES? AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT THIS IS NEW.

THE LAW HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED FOR 50 YEARS.

CITIES ARE GOING TO WRESTLE WITH THIS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT BOUNDARY IS.

THIS RESOLUTION, TO THE EXTENT IT PURPORTS TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD VIOLATE STATE LAW, WOULD BE PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW POTENTIALLY.

AND SO THAT'S THE ISSUE WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO, IS IF THIS IS ADOPTED, IS IT DOES IT CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW? AND IF IT DOES, TO WHAT DEGREE ARE WE NOT ABLE TO ENFORCE IT? BECAUSE STATE LAW IS TRIUMPH'S AND IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, TRUMPS OUR LOCAL REGULATIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS MARIA LEONE.

MY ZIP CODE IS 76208.

YOU NEED MY ADDRESS THAT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE.

IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE, IT'S FINE.

I MEAN, WE'RE 1851 BRINKER.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

I'M NOT AFRAID OF ANYBODY.

YEAH, EXCEPT GOD.

OKAY, SO HERE I AM.

I CAME TO DENTON ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU GET ELECTED.

I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

DENTON IS KNOWN TO BE A CONSERVATIVE CITY, BUT THERE WAS EVIL WITHIN THE CITY.

THERE ARE AN ESTIMATE OF 54 TO 63000 ABORTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES THAT OCCURRED AT 15 PLUS WEEKS.

THIS IS FROM SEPTEMBER OF 2021.

50% OF THESE CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY ARE CHILDREN.

THEY ARE BABIES.

OUR BLACK. OR HISPANICS.

GET IT TO YOUR BRAINS.

THEY'RE TAKING THE LIFE OF OUR FUTURE.

WHY? BECAUSE WOMEN WHO ARE UNDER 35 YEARS OLD ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE.

TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T GET PREGNANT.

AND THEY CAN'T KEEP THEIR TWO LEGS CLOSE.

YES, I SAID IT.

HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY.

LET HER HAVE HER TIME. OKAY.

AND FOR THOSE THAT BIG MOUTH THAT SAID TO SOMEBODY ELSE, HOW MANY HAVE YOU ADOPTED? I AM ADOPTED.

I HAVE A SON WHO ADOPTED.

SO YES, YOU COULD WORK INSTEAD OF HELPING DENTON BECOME A SWAMP TO MAKE A VOICE UP ENOUGH TO MAKE ADOPTIONS EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO DO.

IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

AND I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED WITH CHILDREN.

HERE AND EVERYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER PLACES OF THE WORLD.

EDUCATION IS THE KEY.

JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE SEX.

MY GOODNESS, I DO, TOO.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

AND THAT CHILD DID NOT ASK TO BE CONCEIVED.

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OKAY, THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

AND THAT NOELLE AND EVE.

EVAN. I'M SORRY.

YOU WANT. YEAH, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. SORRY.

WHERE WILL THE TIMER BE? YES. SO IF YOU WILL GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, THE TIME SHOULD POP UP.

YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES. I SEE.

I'M NOELA ONE.

I LIVE AT 3713.

SYRACUSE. DENTON, TEXAS.

SEVEN 6 TO 10.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY STORY WITH YOU.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

I GREW UP IN A CHRISTIAN HOUSEHOLD AND I WAS PRO-LIFE FOR MANY YEARS.

I LOOKED AT IT AS A VERY BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS NO CIRCUMSTANCE THAT SOMEONE SHOULD EVER GET AN ABORTION.

BUT LIFE EXPERIENCES TEACH YOU LIFE LESSONS.

I WAS 26 AND PREGNANT WITH MY FIRST CHILD WHEN I WAS MARRIED, SO I DID NOT CLOSE MY LEGS BECAUSE I WAS MARRIED.

I WAS THRILLED AND COULDN'T WAIT.

THE NURSERY WAS PAINTED.

IT WAS FURNISHED.

NAMES WERE PICKED OUT.

I WENT IN FOR MY 20 WEEK CHECKUP.

WHEN YOU USUALLY FIND OUT THE SEX OF THE BABY AND THEN EVERYTHING WAS GOING NICELY.

BUT THE SONOGRAM TECH GOT VERY QUIET, SO SHE HAD TO GO GET THE DOCTOR TO CHECK ON SOMETHING.

WHEN THEY RETURNED, HE TOLD ME THAT I WAS HAVING A GIRL, BUT THAT SHE DID NOT HAVE ANY ARMS. I WAS IMMEDIATELY SENT UPSTAIRS TO A PRENATAL SPECIALIST.

THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WERE FILLED WITH TESTS AND VISITS WITH THE PEDIATRIC CARDIOLOGIST AT CHILDREN'S, THE GENETIC DIVISION AT CEDARS-SINAI AND SKELETAL SPECIALISTS AT UCLA.

I ALSO HAD COUNTLESS CONVERSATIONS WITH MY GOD, FAMILY, FRIENDS AND SPIRITUAL LEADERS.

ONCE ALL THE TESTS AND DIAGNOSIS CAME BACK, I WAS TOLD SHE NOT ONLY HAD NO ARMS, BUT HAD A HOLE IN HER HEART, FLEW FLUID ON HER BRAIN, AND A RARE CONDITION THAT DID NOT SUPPORT LIFE. THAT IS MEDICAL TALK FOR THE BABY THAT YOU HAVE PRAYED FOR.

PLANNED FOR.

FELT MOVING INSIDE YOU AND LOVE MORE THAN ANYTHING WILL SUFFER AND DIE OUTSIDE OF YOUR WOMB.

I VIVIDLY REMEMBER SOBBING OUTSIDE THE ELEVATOR WHEN WE DECIDED THAT THE MOST HUMANE THING WOULD BE TO ALLOW HER TO DIE PEACEFULLY IN MY WOMB, WHERE SHE FELT NOTHING BUT LOVE.

I WAS 27 WEEKS ALONG, WHICH MADE IT ILLEGAL IN TEXAS.

A FRIEND SUPPORTED US, FLEW US TO NEW MEXICO, GAVE US A HOTEL AT ONE OF THE ONE OF ONLY THREE ABORTION CLINICS, LATE TERM ABORTION CLINICS IN THE COUNTRY. I HAD TO WALK THROUGH POST PROTESTERS WHO TOLD ME HOW NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH MY BABY AND I DID NOT HAVE TO MURDER HER.

THE DOCTOR AND STAFF WERE WONDERFUL.

TREATED ME WITH DIGNITY, MY BABY WITH CARE.

AND LET ME HAVE TIME WITH HER BODY AFTER I GAVE BIRTH TO HER.

I SHARE MY STORY TO BRING LIGHT THAT ABORTION IS NOT BLACK AND WHITE.

IF YOU THINK OF THREE WOMEN IN YOUR LIFE, YOUR MOM, SISTER, FRIEND, GRANDMOTHER, ONE OF THEM HAS OR WILL HAVE AN ABORTION, WHETHER THEY SHARE THAT WITH YOU OR NOT.

MAKING ABORTION ILLEGAL DOES NOT STOP IT.

IT ONLY MAKES IT MORE DANGEROUS AND TAKES AWAY NECESSARY MEDICAL OPTIONS FOR WOMEN.

I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE FIRST LEGAL ABORTION CLINIC THAT WAS OPENED IN AMERICA WAS BY THE CLERGY OF NEW YORK IN 1970.

MAKING ABORTION ILLEGAL DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS YOUNG WOMEN, WOMEN IN POVERTY, WOMEN OF COLOR IN RURAL AREAS, AND PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A SUPPORT SYSTEM.

THESE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT JESUS WAS ALWAYS ADVOCATING FOR IN HIS LIFE AND MINISTRY.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

LAUREN ROSENBERG IS LAUREN ROSENBERG.

LAUREN ROSENBERG.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN AFTER LAUREN, IS LEE TODD.

YOUR NEXT AFTER.

OR YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME WELL? YES.

MY NAME IS LAUREN ROSENBERG, AND I LIVE AT TWO AND FOUR SOUTH BELLE AVENUE.

I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, SO I'M REALLY NERVOUS.

AND I KIND OF HATE PUBLIC SPEAKING AS WELL.

BUT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I FEEL REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT.

AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE FOR BRINGING THIS TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

ON JUNE 24TH, WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT ROE V WADE WAS OVERTURNED, I STARTED CRYING IMMEDIATELY AND I WAS TEXTING MY SISTER ABOUT IT AND SHE WAS STAYING AT MY DAD'S HOUSE.

AND SHE TOLD ME THAT MY DAD SAID, THINK ABOUT THE GOOD IT WILL DO.

SO TO KNOW THAT MY DAD WOULD THINK THAT IT'S GOOD FOR ME TO CARRY AROUND A CHILD THAT I CAN'T CARE FOR BECAUSE I'M 21 YEARS OLD AND I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT AND I HAVE A LOT OF MENTAL ILLNESSES.

I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF A CHILD.

THAT REALLY HURT.

AND I JUST CRIED.

I CRIED ALL DAY LONG.

AND I ACTUALLY I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE OF CUMBERLAND, THE FOSTER HOME HERE IN DENTON.

I LIVED THERE FOR A YEAR WHEN I WAS A YOUNG TEENAGER.

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IT'S HELL ON EARTH.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT, ESPECIALLY A YOUNG ONE.

THEY DON'T CARE FOR YOU.

NO ONE CARES FOR YOU.

YOU HAVE YOUR SELF AND YOUR SIBLINGS AND THAT'S IT.

THE WORKERS DON'T CARE.

THE OTHER RESIDENTS DON'T CARE.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

LUCKILY I MADE IT OUT.

I WAS ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES I GOT.

I GOT TO GO BACK TO LIVE WITH MY FAMILY.

A LOT OF KIDS DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY.

IT'S A HORRIBLE NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE IN FOSTER CARE FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES.

NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO BE ABUSED FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES.

EVERY CHILD SHOULD BE WANTED AND CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT WANTED.

I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT THE MOTHER SHOULD HAVE THAT RIGHT TO ABORT.

AND THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL.

AND I HOPE YOU GUYS FEEL THAT WAY, TOO, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT TOPIC AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

AND I THINK WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR BODIES, FOR THEIR HEALTH, FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH, FOR THEIR PHYSICAL WELL-BEING, FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR FAMILIES, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND THIS GOES FOR PEOPLE WITH UTERUSES TO NOT JUST WOMEN.

PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T BE INTIMIDATED BY THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT YOU WITH MONEY.

PLEASE DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST.

PLEASE VOTE FROM YOUR HEART.

DON'T BE INTIMIDATED BY THE PEOPLE LIKE THAT WOMAN WHO SAID, OH, YOU KNOW, I HELPED YOU GET ELECTED.

DON'T FALL FOR THAT CRAP.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT CHOICE IS.

PLEASE CHOOSE WISELY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

LEE. LEE. TODD LEE.

LEE. LEE TODD.

ONE MORE TIME. LEIGH TODD.

NO. LEIGH ANNE TODD.

I'M SORRY. LEIGH ANNE TODD.

OKAY. LIAM WAKEFIELD, THANK YOU.

AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE CATHERINE RODRIGUEZ.

HELLO. MY NAME IS LIAM WAKEFIELD.

I'M AT 411 PONDER AVENUE.

I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN FORWARD OF THE PRIORITIZATION OF AN ENFORCEMENT OF THE STATE'S ANTI ABORTION LAW.

IT'S LIKE FOR I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING SINCE THE ROE V WADE HAS BEEN OVERTURNED.

AND I'VE NEVER.

NO ONE HAS EVER GIVEN ME A SATISFACTORY ANSWER OR EVEN TRIED TO ANSWER IT.

IT'S WHY DO FETUSES GET SPECIAL PROTECTION UNDER LAW? NOBODY CAN FORCE YOU TO DONATE YOUR BLOOD OR ORGANS TO SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE, EVEN IF YOU'RE THE RIGHT, CORRECT MATCH AND THEY'RE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

NOBODY CAN FORCE YOU TO DONATE.

AND SO WHY DO FETUSES GET THAT PROTECTION? WHY DOES THE STATE GET TO MANDATE THAT YOU ARE ABOUT PEOPLE HAVE TO USE THEIR BLOOD AND THEIR ORGANS TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S LIFE SUPPORT.

WHY? NO OTHER NO OTHER PERSON GETS THAT.

WHY DO FETUSES.

AND ANOTHER THING THAT HAS GREATLY DISTURBED ME AND ANGERED ME IS THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WITH UTERUSES NOW HAVE LESS BODILY AUTONOMY THAN CORPSES.

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT TAKE A CORPSE'S ORGANS WITHOUT CONSENT OF EITHER THAT PERSON BEFORE THEY DIED OR THEIR FAMILY.

SO WHY DOES THE STATE GET TO SAY NO, THE FETUS GETS TO USE YOUR BODY? WELL, WE DON'T EVEN LET PEOPLE DO THAT TO CORPSES TO SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES.

YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THOSE PLENTY OF FAMILIES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR LOVED ONES SAVED WITH A HEART TRANSPLANT.

A LIVER TRANSPLANT.

SO WHY DO FETUSES GET SPECIAL PROTECTION? IF YOU HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT, GO AHEAD, VOTE NO ON THIS.

BUT IF YOU DON'T, PLEASE VOTE YES FOR THE PRIORITIZATION.

KATHRYN RODRIGUEZ.

KATHRYN. KATHRYN RODRIGUEZ.

AND THEN AFTER THAT IS IN O.R.

J A F R I.

I DON'T WANT TO MISS. THANK YOU.

DON'T WANT TO MISPRONOUNCE THAT.

IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YEAH. HI. KATHRYN RODRIGUEZ.

I LIVE IN THE ZIP CODE 76201.

I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET, SINCE CLEARLY MAYOR HUDSPETH BELIEVES IT'S SUCH A BURDEN TO DO WHAT HE WAS ELECTED TO DO AND LISTEN TO HIS CONSTITUENTS AND WOULD RATHER BE HOME

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RIGHT NOW THAN SERVE HIS COMMUNITY.

YOU SHOULD VOTE YES TO THIS.

I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHY.

YOU GUYS KNOW IN YOUR HEART, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? IF YOU VOTE NO, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO COME OUT.

AND IF YOU THOUGHT THIS CHANTING WAS ANNOYING EARLIER, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.

DO YOUR JOBS OR WE'LL JUST KEEP COMING OUT AND ANNOY YOU.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.

I'M REALLY ANNOYING.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD NIGHT, Y'ALL.

NO, JOFFREY AND THEN ADRIAN ORTEGA WOULD BE NEXT.

HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS NOOR JAFARI.

I LIVE IN 76207.

TODAY I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE.

I AM AN INDIAN AMERICAN.

I AM A MUSLIM.

I AM A NON-BINARY INDIVIDUAL.

AND IT IS MY RIGHT TO AN ABORTION IF I CHOOSE TO HAVE ONE.

IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO CONSENT TO A DEMOCRACY.

IT IS THE RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO PROTEST.

IT IS THE RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO STAND UP.

IT IS THE RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO CONSENT TO THEIR OWN BODILY AUTONOMY.

THIS IS NOT A THEOCRACY.

THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY.

PEOPLE COMPARE THIS TO SHARIA LAW, BUT EVEN SHARIA LAW SAYS THAT YOU CAN HAVE AN ABORTION.

THERE ARE HINDUS, THERE ARE JEWS, THERE ARE ATHEISTS THERE, AGNOSTICS.

THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RIGHTS TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR BODIES.

A FETUS IS NOT A HUMAN.

IT IS A MASS OF CELLS.

WHAT ARE HUMANS? ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED TO CARRY THOSE PREGNANCIES? THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED TO WHO ARE RAPED, WHO ARE ASSAULTED, WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO MANAGE THEIR THEIR HEALTH, WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO MANAGE THE BABIES HEALTH.

THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING FORCED TO CARRY THESE PREGNANCIES AND THESE PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO BE CRIMINALIZED BECAUSE OF IT.

YOU ARE ASKING FOR 15 YEAR OLDS TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN ABORTION THAT IS NOT OK DENTON NEEDS TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR THE REST OF TEXAS.

DENTON NEEDS TO BE A SAFE HAVEN FOR THE REST OF TEXAS.

DENTON NEEDS TO BE THE ONE TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT THIS IS NOT OKAY.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT THIS IS NOT OKAY AND THIS IS AN IMPERATIVE MORAL ISSUE.

I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR OWN BODIES.

I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A THEOCRACY.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY.

THIS IS A DEMOCRACY.

PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE PROTESTING.

PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE STATING THEIR MINDS.

PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE CALLING ON ALL OF YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC THING.

THEY ARE LOUD, THEY ARE PROUD.

THEY ARE OUT IN THE STREETS.

THEY ARE OUT IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE.

THEY ARE OUT IN FRONT OF IN THE SQUARE.

PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THE RIGHT THING TO BE DONE.

THANK YOU, ADRIAN ORTEGA.

ADRIAN, THANK YOU.

NEXT WOULD BE KRISTEN TOLMAN.

KRISTY TOLMAN.

I CAN GIVE YOU YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

HI. MY NAME IS ADRIAN ORTEGA.

MY ADDRESS IS WRITTEN ON THE COMMENT CARD.

I'M HERE TO URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF COUNCIL MEMBER MCGUIRE'S RESOLUTION.

AND THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING THE RESOLUTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER. EVERY INDIVIDUAL HAS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO ACCESS HEALTH CARE, AND ABORTION IS HEALTH CARE.

TEXAS'S TRIGGER BAN AND PRE-ROLL BAN ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL, AND WE SHOULD NOT WASTE OUR CITY'S RESOURCES ON PRIORITIZING OUR INVESTIGATING LAWS THAT INFRINGE ON PEOPLE'S HUMAN RIGHTS. FOR THOSE HERE TODAY WHO DON'T KNOW.

LITERALLY TODAY A JUDGE PROVIDED A TRO TO ALLOW PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE ABORTIONS IN TEXAS AGAIN, AS THEY HAVE EVERY PREVIOUS TIME.

TEXAS HAS PASSED LAWS WITH CRIMINAL TIES FOR ABORTION CARE.

PEOPLE IN DENTON HAVE ABORTIONS, BOTH PRO-CHOICE PEOPLE AND QUOTE UNQUOTE, PRO-LIFE PEOPLE HAVE ABORTIONS.

AS A FORMER CLINIC WORKER, I'VE HELD BOTH THOSE PEOPLE'S HANDS THROUGH ABORTION PROCEDURES.

I HAVE SEEN BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE TAKE ABORTION PILLS.

I DON'T TOUCH THEM.

BUT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT ONLY SUPPORT RIGHTS WHEN THEY ARE CONVENIENT TO THEM.

EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO DETERMINE THEIR REPRODUCTIVE FUTURE.

THE SAFEST THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS FOR INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE ACCESS TO ABORTION AND HAVE ACCESS TO LOCAL ECOSYSTEMS OF SUPPORT TO ASSIST THEM ALONG THE WAY.

ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE PUNISHED AND JAILED FOR THEIR PREGNANCY OUTCOMES, WHETHER THEY HAD AN ABORTION OR PREGNANCY LOSS.

THEY HAVE BEEN PUNISHED SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GIVE BIRTH.

WE SAW THIS WITH LORETTA AND THE RGV JUST MONTHS AGO.

TEXAS HAS THREATENED TO USE PROSECUTORS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO PUNISH PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY HELP THEIR FRIEND OR NEIGHBOR OR COLLEAGUE WITH ACCESSING TIME SENSITIVE

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HEALTH CARE NEEDS.

OFFICIALS AND ACTORS OF THE STATE ARE VOTED IN OFFICE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE, NOT DICTATE IDEOLOGY INTO LAW.

TODAY, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO PROVIDE A LAYER OF PROTECTION FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS BY PRIORITIZING THESE UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS.

NO ONE SHOULD BE CRIMINALIZED OR PUNISHED FOR SEEKING HEALTH CARE.

ABORTIONS WILL NOT STOP HAPPENING.

THEY WILL ONLY HAPPEN IN LESS SAFE SETTINGS.

AND AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC HEALTH, I HOPE YOU ALL WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU, CHRISTY COLEMAN.

CHRISTY TOLMAN IS THERE.

I'M NOT. NOT CHRISTIE.

CHRISTIE. YEAH.

YEAH. OH, THANK YOU.

SO, KRISTI TALMAN, IS THERE ANY TALMAN? YES.

IT'S KIND OF NUTS OUT THERE AND IT DIDN'T QUITE GET DONE.

SO. OKAY.

SO I'M CHRISTY TALLMAN.

MY ADDRESS IS 4891 MOCHE BRANCH ROAD AND CRUMB, APARTMENT 33.

I HAVE MUCH COMPASSION FOR VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF STORIES TONIGHT OF THOSE EXPERIENCES.

WE DO NEED REFORM IN THAT AREA.

WE NEED REFORM IN TERMS OF TRAUMA CARE AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL WOUNDS THAT RESULT FROM THOSE EXPERIENCES.

ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, I SURVIVED A VIOLENT SEXUAL ASSAULT BY A COWORKER.

I HAD BRUISES, MUCH, MUCH BRUISING AND MUCH MORE EVIDENCE.

ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE I WAS FACING CONCEPTION, I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT I WOULD DO IF I HAD BECOME PREGNANT FROM THAT SITUATION.

AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LOT ABOUT MY CHOICES.

AND I THOUGHT AN EXPERIENCE, ONE BAD EXPERIENCE DOES NOT.

MAKE ANOTHER BAD EXPERIENCE.

A GOOD ONE. ONE WRONG.

ONE EVIL THING DOES NOT MAKE ANOTHER EVIL THING GOOD.

AND SO I DECIDED THAT IF I BECAME PREGNANT, I WOULD CARRY THE BABY TO TERM NOW.

AN ABORTION IS TRAUMATIC.

TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE VERY TRAUMATIC.

I'VE HEARD STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THEM AND IT SEEMS VERY TRAUMATIC.

AND IF YOU HAVE A BABY, YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS, REGARDLESS OF THE FOSTER SYSTEM BEING BROKEN OR NOT.

YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH SEVERAL OPTIONS AND NEVER HAVING TO SEE THAT BABY AGAIN THE VERY DAY THAT THEY'RE BORN.

WHEN MY SITUATION WITH THE PERSON THAT HURT ME WENT TO THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS STARTED HAPPENING, THERE WAS A PLETHORA OF EVIDENCE FOR WHAT HAD HAPPENED.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN ADDITION TO THE BRUISES THAT WERE COVERING MY NECK FROM SEVERAL MINUTES OF STRANGULATION.

AND SO FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON, I WAS TOLD THAT IT NEVER WOULD BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER AND THE GRAND JURY HAD DECIDED THERE WASN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR IT TO EVEN GO TO TRIAL.

I DON'T KNOW. THEY WEREN'T.

THEY WOULD NOT GIVE ME THE REASON FOR THAT.

BUT THERE WAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO THERE WAS ENOUGH INFORMATION TO STATE THAT THAT THERE WAS SOME DEEP PRIORITIZATION SOMEWHERE IN THAT.

SO MY SITUATION, ALTHOUGH WAS NOT A PERSONAL ABORTION SITUATION, IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE MY VERY REAL EXPERIENCE WAS DE-ESCALATED OR DEPRIORITIZED BY BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, BY THOSE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO CARE, THAT WERE ELECTED TO CARE AND. NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE THAT HAPPEN TO THEM.

THERE DOES NEED TO BE.

EVIDENCE, A CARE FOR FOUR PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THESE THINGS AND THE THE ONES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THEM BECAUSE OF TRAUMA ESPECIALLY.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN I'M KIM YEN K K A M Y OK.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. MY NAME IS CAMERON CONNER.

I USE SHE HER PRONOUNS AND I LIVE AT ZIPCODE 76209.

I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS EQUAL ACCESS FUND AND WE ARE A LOCAL YOUR LOCAL ABORTION FUND SERVING 110 COUNTIES IN EAST AND WEST AND NORTH TEXAS.

IN FACT, THE TX FUND WAS FOUNDED BY U.A.

STUDENTS AND A PROFESSOR IN 2005.

T FUND IS A PART OF DENTON'S LEGACY.

OUR MISSION HAS BEEN TO SUPPORT PEOPLE ACCESSING ABORTION CARE WHEN THEY CANNOT AFFORD IT.

THIS MEANS WE HAVE PAID FOR PEOPLE'S ABORTION PROCEDURE PROCEDURES SERVING LOW INCOME PEOPLE.

OVER 62% OF THE PEOPLE WE SERVE AT TX FUND ARE PARENTS WHO ARE BLACK, INDIGENOUS, LATINX OR OTHER COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO HAVE AN ABORTION TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO NURTURE.

WE HAVE SUPPORTED YOUNG PEOPLE AND MINORS SEEKING JUDICIAL BYPASS FOR THEIR ABORTION CARE DUE TO NOT HAVING A GUARDIAN TO ASSIST THEM IN ACCESSING THEIR REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE. MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF THE RULING OF OVERTURNING ROE V WADE, WHICH MAKES IT VERY DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE TO BE PREGNANT IN TEXAS. THIS IS A STATE WITH NO COMPREHENSIVE SEX EDUCATION, WHERE THE MATERNAL MORTALITY RATE IS HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER STATE AND BLACK WOMEN HAVING THE HIGHEST RATE OF MATERNAL MORTALITY IN THE COUNTRY.

SIMPLY PUT, IT IS A HARD TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BE PREGNANT, BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE IN TEXAS.

WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME WHEN DOCTORS, PROVIDERS, CLINIC STAFF AND HEALTH CARE WORKERS ARE FRIGHTENED AND CONFUSED ABOUT HOW THEY CAN MEDICALLY SERVE THEIR PATIENTS AND THE WAY IN WHICH THEY ALWAYS HAVE BECAUSE OF THIS RULING.

IT IS CAUSING A REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE CRISIS.

WE ARE ALSO LIVING IN A TIME WHERE PEOPLE CAN AND WILL BE TARGETED FOR ACCESSING THEIR REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE.

THEY WILL BE TARGETED BECAUSE OF THEIR PREGNANCY OUTCOMES, INCLUDING ABORTION.

AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WILL SUFFER.

THIS TARGETING TARGETING OF RACIST CARCERAL SYSTEM THE MOST.

WE SAW THIS WITH LIZELLE HERRERA ARRESTED FOR HER PREGNANCY OUTCOMES IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY.

THEY SUSPECTED SHE HAD AN ABORTION EVEN IF THE LIZELLE WAS NOT CONVICTED.

HAVING TO BE PLACED IN HOLDING FOR HOURS FOR HEALTH CARE OUTCOMES IS UNCONSCIONABLE.

YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO.

I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS FOR DENTON RESIDENTS.

THIS IS WELL WITHIN YOUR YOUR SCOPE.

WE NEED THIS BOLD ACTION FROM THE CITY.

YOU HEARD PEOPLE CHANTING SO LOUD THAT THEY WERE QUAKING THE WALLS.

A CHANT IS A PLEA AND A CRY.

THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO SIDE WITH THEM ON THIS ISSUE.

PLEASE LET US KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO IGNORE US.

THANK YOU. EASY, EASY.

IS IT ZEKE OR ZO? KAY. I CAN'T TELL IF IT'S A0RE.

IT JUST HAS THE LAST INITIAL K.

WHAT? YEAH.

HOLD ON. Z.

ZO. Z K.

NO LAST NAME.

THEY JUST PUT KAY.

SO I DON'T. MAYOR PRO TEM.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONFLICT WITH PEOPLE ENTERING THE BUILDING TO BE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. CAN WE GET SOME RESOLUTION ON ON THAT, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. WERE YOU WHAT YOU HAD? WELL ON THIS ITEM.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN CALLED THERE'S NO NEW SPEAKERS.

BUT IF THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK BEFORE WE CALLED IT, THEN THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK.

SO MAYOR, I CAN GO OUT THERE AND RECONFIRM.

YEAH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE IF HE HAS SOME INFORMATION, WHY DIDN'T HE JUST TEXT IT TO YOU? WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? BECAUSE I'M REMOTE, SIR.

RIGHT. YOU CAN TEXT IT TO RYAN.

YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE? TEXT HIM. OKAY.

MAYOR, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE A RESPONSE.

WE DID REACH CAPACITY FOR THIS ROOM EARLIER IN THE MEETING, AND SO WE WERE LETTING PEOPLE IN ONE BY ONE AS OTHERS LEFT SO THAT WE WOULD NOT EXCEED THAT CAPACITY.

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RIGHT. AND THEN WE WOULD GIVE MAKE SURE THAT IF ANYONE CAME IN WHO HAD TO SPEAK, WE WOULD MAKE SURE TO GET THEM IN.

THAT SHOULD STILL BE THE CASE.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE NOT TURNED IT INTO ONE AWAY WHO IS SIGNED UP TO BE A SPEAKER.

OKAY. WELL, YEAH, IF WE COULD.

THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD JUST CHECK ON THAT.

BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER TO NOT EXPOSE EACH OTHER TO THIS TYPE.

YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO GO CHECK ON THAT AND UPDATE THE COUNCIL.

YES. AH, I SEE.

RIGHT. STAY READY SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET READY.

GO AHEAD. CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT ANYONE WHO WANTED A BLUE CARD WAS ABLE TO GET ONE BEFORE THE ITEM WAS CALLED? ANYONE WHO WANTED A BLUE CARD WAS ABLE TO GET ONE BEFORE THE ITEM WAS CALLED.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND EVERYONE WE EVERYONE WHO REQUESTED TO SPEAK FOR THE ITEM WAS CALLED WAS GIVEN A BLUE CARD.

AND WE TOOK THEM ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE ITEM WAS CALLED.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT, DRUSILLA WALLACE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE ANDREA STUART.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS DRUSILLA SAXTON.

WALLACE AND I LIVE IN ZIPCODE 76209.

I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TONIGHT TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF COUNCILMEMBER MCGUIRE'S RESOLUTION TO PRIORITIZE ENFORCEMENT OF TEXAS LAWS WHICH UNCONSTITUTIONALLY CRIMINALIZE ABORTION.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF VERY COMPELLING STORIES THIS EVENING ABOUT TRAUMA THAT PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED PERSONALLY, BOTH ON THE PRO AND THE AGAINST SIDES.

I ALSO HAVE WORK VERY EARLY TOMORROW.

I HAVE TO WAKE UP AT 5 A.M..

I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO YOU ALL HAVING BEEN HERE ALL DAY, SO I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE ANY OF MY PERSONAL TRAUMAS WITH YOU.

BUT ABORTION IN TEXAS IS NOT READILY ACCESSIBLE TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS BASIC HEALTH CARE.

IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR US RIGHT NOW.

IT IS VITAL THAT YOU ARE CITY COUNCIL ACT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THAT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY IS SAFE AND SECURE AND ACCESSING REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE NEEDS, INCLUDING ABORTION, NO MATTER THE REASON.

AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO PROTECT US.

THE REASON THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS SO IMPORTANT IS YOUR VOICE.

AS DENTON WILL SPEAK WITH OTHER VOICES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO SHOW THAT TEXANS ARE NOT OKAY WITH HAVING BASIC HEALTH CARE AND BASIC PRIVACY REVOKED OR UNAVAILABLE TO THEM.

AS WAS STATED EARLIER BY ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, WE PRIORITIZE THINGS EVERY DAY IN OUR LIVES.

WE PRIORITIZE WHETHER TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE OR TO GET OUR CAR WASHED.

SOME THINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS.

THERE ARE USES OF RESOURCES FOR THE DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOING ON WITH CHANTS OR WHATEVER OTHER HYPERBOLIC LANGUAGE WE WANT TO USE TO DESCRIBE. ATTEMPTING TO KEEP UP WITH WHO'S SEEKING HEALTH CARE.

IT'S HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED FACT THAT LIMITING ACCESS TO ABORTION DOES NOT REDUCE THE DEMAND FOR AN ABORTION.

IT JUST REDUCES THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO SEEK ABORTION.

I DON'T LIKE PUBLIC SPEAKING.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME.

REDUCING ACCESS TO ABORTION DOES NOT REDUCE THE DEMAND FOR IT.

IT REDUCES THE POSITIVE HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING ABORTION, BOTH IN THE FORM OF THEIR LIFE.

IT LEADS TO DEATH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CARRYING CHILDREN.

IT ALSO LEADS TO CHILDREN WHO WERE HAD BY PARENTS WHO DIDN'T WANT THEM, WHO THEN GET TO DEAL WITH THAT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

SO AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU FOR SPENDING SO MUCH TIME TODAY.

WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AUDREY STEWART.

AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE TARA S.A.

A T.

THINK OF YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR 3 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS AUDREY STEWART.

I LIVE AT 30 COUNTY ROAD 2250 VALLEY VIEW, TEXAS.

I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW, MY COUNTY HAS NOT PUT FORTH ANY PLANS TO PROTECT THE WOMEN OF TEXAS OR THEIR COUNTY FROM THE EGREGIOUS LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN ENACTED IN TEXAS, THANKS TO THE OVERTURNING ROE VERSUS WADE.

IT'S GREATLY CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE I WOKE UP ON FRIDAY AND I WAS NO LONGER A HUMAN BEING THE SAME AS YOU BECAUSE I HAVE A UTERUS.

I AM NOT AFFORDED THE SAME PROTECTIONS AS I WAS ON WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY AS OF FRIDAY.

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THEY'RE GONE IF ANYTHING SHOULD HAPPEN.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING AND TO MAKE THIS PROTECTION FOR US.

THAT COULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTIES OF TEXAS.

LIKE I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE SEVEN STAGES OF GRIEF AND I'M STUCK ON ACCEPTANCE.

I CANNOT ACCEPT IT AND I WON'T.

SO PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU TO VOTE YES ON THIS.

I'M A MILLENNIAL. I LIVE WITH MY SISTER'S COUCH AND I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT.

SO IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE EVERY SINGLE DAY MAKING SURE THAT YOU DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT US, YOU WOULD BE WRONG.

PLEASE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. TARA.

TARA. AND THEN THAT'S A C H A R R T.

TARA AS A.

C. A.

R. NO.

ALL RIGHT, KATHLEEN.

DO YOU, B.B. EARL.

WHY? THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. HI.

I'M KATHERINE DOUBLE.

MY ADDRESS IS 2313 CIRCLE DENTON, TEXAS 76210.

SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

RIGHT NOW, I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THREAT RESOLUTION.

SO TODAY I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE PEOPLE MENTION BABIES BEING RIPPED APART DURING ABORTIONS.

AND IT MAKES ME THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TEXAS TRIGGER LAW SAYS.

SO SOON IT WILL BE ILLEGAL AND BE ILLEGAL IN TEXAS TO HAVE AN ABORTION AT ANY POINT AFTER THE SPERM PENETRATES THE SECOND LAYER OF THE EGG, EVEN BEFORE THE EMBRYO ATTACHES TO THE UTERINE WALL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHEN PREGNANCY STARTS, THE LAW TREATS THAT EMBRYO THE SAME WAY IT DOES A FETUS.

AT 38 WEEKS, AT LEAST ONE OUT OF FOUR PREGNANCIES ARE GOING TO END IN MISCARRIAGE BEFORE THE PERSON WHO'S PREGNANT EVEN KNOWS IT.

AND TO SAY THAT THOSE MISCARRIAGES ARE AS TRAGIC AS A NEWBORN OR TWO YEAR OLD BEING KILLED IS LUDICROUS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF ABORTIONS OCCUR DURING THE FIRST TRIMESTER.

THE EMBRYO OR FETUS DOES NOT HAVE A WORKING BRAIN, SOMETHING THAT STARTS TO WORK AROUND THE TIME OF VIABILITY.

MEANING IT HAS NO CONSCIOUSNESS, NO SELF AWARENESS, NO ABILITY TO THINK OR FEEL.

IF LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES PRIORITIZE INVESTIGATING ABORTIONS, THEY WILL HAVE TO INVESTIGATE MISCARRIAGES IN CASE THEY WERE INDUCED.

THAT IS TRAUMATIC AND CRUEL AND ABUSIVE.

PREGNANT WOMEN WHO ARE SICK AND DYING WILL BE DENIED LIFESAVING ABORTIONS UNTIL THE LAST POSSIBLE MOMENT, OFTEN LEADING TO SERIOUS DAMAGE AND EVEN DEATH.

BECAUSE THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE AND IT WILL HAPPEN EVEN MORE IF DOCTORS ARE SCARED, THEY'LL BE SUED OR INDICTED FOR DOING IT TOO SOON.

SO PRIORITIZING THIS ISSUE WILL HELP US FINANCIALLY AND PROTECT VULNERABLE PEOPLE.

AS WE KNOW, OUR CITY HAS LIMITED RESOURCES.

WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SPEND OUR FUNDS GOING AFTER DOCTORS WHO PROVIDE BASIC MEDICAL CARE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE LIVE IN A STATE WITH ONE OF THE WORST MATERNAL MORTALITY RATES IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT REFUSES TO EXPAND MEDICAID, LEAVING A HUGE GAP IN HEALTH CARE.

ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE PRO-LIFE SHOULD HELP THOSE AROUND THEM WHO ARE ALIVE AND STRUGGLING INSTEAD OF TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT, CONDEMNING ABORTION WHILE DENYING RESOURCES TO PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM THE MOST, AND MANY OF WHOM ARE SINGLE MOTHERS WHO STRUGGLE TO CARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY CANNOT THEMSELVES ACCESS HEALTH CARE.

SO, YEAH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LISTENING TO ME.

I HOPE THAT OUR RESOURCES GO TOWARD HELPING THOSE WHO ARE HERE RIGHT NOW WHO'VE BEEN ABANDONED BY A SYSTEM THAT CANNOT AFFORD THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO HELP THEM.

BUT IF WE PRIORITIZE THEM.

THANK YOU. JAMES WILLIAMS. JAMES WILLIAMS. JAMES WILLIAMS. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK SO I CAN GET IT THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

MY NAME IS JAMES WILLIAMS. I'M FROM 8001 MIRROR ROCK LANE, DENTON, TEXAS.

AND LET'S GO. ALL RIGHT.

WHY IS ABORTION WRONG? I'M ONLY MET WITH MORALITY ARGUMENTS THAT PRESUME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT AN ALL POWERFUL GOD WANTS OR ONES THAT MISCHARACTERIZE AND MINIMIZE THE INDIVIDUAL SEEKING THE ABORTION.

I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY DISCUSS THE FORMER.

I THINK THE LATTER HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BY THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE HERE.

IF GOD IS ANY MIX OF ALL KNOWING OR ALL POWERFUL, WHY WOULD GOD ALLOCATE SOULS OR PERSONHOOD TO TO UNFORMED BODIES THAT THEY KNOW THAT GOD KNOWS WILL NEVER BECOME CHILDREN, THAT THE SOULS OF THE UNBORN DO SOMETHING TO THE TO NOT DESERVE AN ADEQUATE CHANCE AT LIFE.

IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE IF ABORTION IS A SIN, EVEN A GRAVE ONE.

DIDN'T JESUS DIE SO THAT FORGIVENESS IS POSSIBLE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I BELIEVE PREGNANCY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CHILD.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TURN DOWN THAT OPPORTUNITY IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

THE BEST OF WHAT RELIGION HAS TO OFFER IS LOVE, UNDERSTANDING AND SUPPORT.

TAKING AWAY REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOMS DOES NONE OF THESE THINGS.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO CURTAIL ABORTIONS, DO IT IN A WAY THAT EMBODIES THESE VALUES.

REINVEST IN SEX EDUCATION, IN SEXUAL HEALTH RESOURCES, LESSEN THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF MEDICAL EXPENSES ON EXPECTANT MOTHERS, PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING THAT IS FREE FROM SHAME AND STIGMA, BOLSTER ADOPTION PROGRAMS AND HELP MOTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THEIR CHILD.

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YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HAVING A CHILD IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS DONE EASILY.

GETTING PREGNANT IS EASY, BUT HAVING A CHILD IS IMMEASURABLY HARDER.

THAT IS YOUR LIFE.

A CHILD IS A LIFELONG COMMITMENT.

IF YOU WERE UNABLE TO MAKE A LIFE LONG COMMITMENT TO THAT CHILD, YOU ARE YOU ARE BETTER OFF NOT HAVING THAT CHILD.

I LOVE MY MOM MORE THAN ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD, AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME TO KNOW THAT I WAS WANTED BY HER AND THAT HAVING ME WAS AN INTENTIONAL CHOICE THAT SHE MADE DESPITE THE HARDSHIP THAT I BROUGHT.

IT WOULD KILL ME TO KNOW THAT MY MOM WAS FORCED TO HAVE ME, THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT ME, THAT I MADE HER LIFE HARDER, LIMITED HER FUTURE, AND HURT HER BY SIMPLY EXISTING.

IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO HER AND IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO ME.

YOU HAVE TO GIVE EVERYONE THE CHANCE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, OR ELSE YOU HARM BOTH THE MOTHER AND THE CHILD FOREVER.

TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, YOU DO SO.

DO SO ON BEHALF OF STRANGERS WHO FEEL ENTITLED TO YOUR BODY OR A GOD WHO WOULD HAVE FORGIVEN AND UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JODIE IZMIR.

JODIE IZMIR.

JODIE IZMIR. AFTER THAT WOULD BE SPENCER.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE HELP.

AT 819 ANNA STREET, AND I'VE BEEN UP HERE MANY TIMES BEFORE.

I RECOGNIZE MANY FACES AND I HOPE I AM WRONG, BUT I FEEL LIKE I KNOW HOW THESE THINGS ARE GOING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU PAUSE MY TIMER? YES. ALL WE SAID.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OK JODY ESCOTT 819 ANNA STREET.

AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN UP HERE MANY TIMES BEFORE AND I'M AFRAID THAT I KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO AND I REALLY HOPE I'M WRONG.

I AM HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I NEED YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I AM FEMALE.

I HAVE A UTERUS. I HAVE HAD THREE PREGNANCIES.

THE FIRST ONE, I WAS VERY YOUNG, MY EARLY TWENTIES.

I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT.

I USED PROTECTION.

TWO WAYS, AND I STILL GOT PREGNANT.

I CHOSE TO HAVE AN ABORTION BECAUSE I GREW UP IN POVERTY AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT.

I WAS IN COLLEGE, I WAS STUDYING AND I WANTED TO HAVE A LIFE AND I WAS NOT READY TO BE A MOTHER.

SIMPLE BODILY AUTONOMY.

I DESERVE THAT.

EVERYONE DESERVES THAT.

EVERYONE VERY EARLY CAUGHT IT.

EXTREMELY EARLY, WENT IN, HAD MY ABORTION.

AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE WAS NO HEAD SKULL CRAZINESS THAT OTHER PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S INSANITY.

IT WAS LITERALLY A SLOUGHING OF CELLS.

THE SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR PERIOD.

YOU SLOUGHED THE LINING OF YOUR UTERUS.

EXACT SAME THING EXCEPT USE BY VACUUM ASPIRATION PERIOD.

THERE WAS NO BABY.

THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.

IT WAS JUST SIMPLY THE SLOUGHING OF THE CELLS OF THE UTERUS.

THAT'S IT. THAT IS WHAT A FIRST TRIMESTER ABORTION LOOKS LIKE.

VERY SIMPLE PROCEDURE.

I WAS IN. I WAS OUT.

DONE. I AM ADOPTED AT BIRTH.

I, I AM FIRMLY PRO-CHOICE.

WHEN YOU WERE ADOPTED AT BIRTH, YOU HAVE THE ISSUES OF ABANDONMENT, ISSUES YOUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE.

FROM THAT FIRST LOSS, I GO TO THERAPY, I DEAL WITH IT, BUT I ALWAYS FEEL A LITTLE SAD AND I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LEAVE ME AND I WILL FEEL THAT WAY THE REST OF MY LIFE.

AND THIS IS WELL KNOWN IN PSYCHOLOGY, WELL KNOWN THAT CHILDREN WHO ARE ADOPTED GO THROUGH THIS THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.

SO ADOPTION IS NOT THE ANSWER.

I ALSO HAD A MISCARRIAGE FOR MY SECOND PREGNANCY.

YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

HOW, HOW, HOW OR HOW ARE THE POLICE GOING TO POLICE THIS? BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT I HAD A MISCARRIAGE.

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO POLICE THIS? HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT YET? LIKE, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TRACK US AND FIGURE US OUT? IT'S LIKE A WITCH HUNT FOR WOMEN.

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THIS IS TRULY A WITCH HUNT FOR WOMEN.

IT'S DRACONIAN, IT'S UNJUST.

AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL EVENTUALLY.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.

PLEASE PROTECT PEOPLE IN TOWN WHO CAN GET PREGNANT.

PLEASE DO PRIORITIZE THIS.

THE POLICE DO NOT NEED TO BE GOING AFTER WOMEN RANDOMLY IN OUR PRIVACY AND OUR MEDICAL PRIVACY.

THANK YOU, SPENCER.

SPENCER AND THEN RACHEL MCMURRAY.

AFTER THAT. AFTER SPENCER.

GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES? YEAH. MY NAME IS SPENCER SHER.

I LIVE AT 2500 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 IN AN APARTMENT THERE.

I'M SPEAKING IN IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT.

SO, LADIES, GENTLEMEN, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE AUDIENCE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

OBVIOUSLY, NOBODY REALLY TO HEAR A GUY TALK ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS TOO MUCH MORE.

SO I'LL MAKE IT BRIEF.

SO DESPITE MY APPEARANCE, I'M NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ANTIFA AS SOME OF OUR COUNTERPROTESTERS HAVE ASSUMED.

HOWEVER, I AM A US ARMY VETERAN.

I WENT TO AFGHANISTAN AND DID SOME STUFF IN AFRICA AND I WILL TELL YOU, I DID NOT FIGHT AND BEAR THE SCARS.

I BEAR TO COME BACK TO A COUNTRY THAT IS ENABLING CHRISTIAN FASCISM.

SO I WAS, HOWEVER, FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET BACK IN TIME FOR THE BIRTH OF ALL THREE OF MY CHILDREN.

MY EX-WIFE WENT PRETTY ECLECTIC WITH MY FIRST CHILD, MY SON, AND NEEDED TO HAVE INDUCED LABOR TO SAVE HER LIFE AND MY SONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IS THREATENED AT THE MOMENT, BUT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE BY THE TRIGGER LAWS.

MY MOTHER MISCARRIED WHEN I WAS 14 AND AN ABORTION WAS REQUIRED TO REMOVE THE DEAD FETUS TO AVOID SEPSIS AND INFERTILITY FURTHER ON.

AND THREE YEARS LATER, BECAUSE OF THAT, SHE WAS ABLE TO GIVE BIRTH TO MY LITTLE BROTHER, WHO NOW PLAYS FLU TO YOU.

AND MY FRIEND WHO WAS TRYING TO HAVE A CHILD WITH HIS WIFE, DOES NOT FEEL HE CAN RESPONSIBLY PURSUE A PREGNANCY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR A COMPLICATION THREATENING HIS WIFE'S LIFE.

THIS IS BASICALLY KILLING THE CHILD THAT HE WANTS TO HAVE BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE ASSURED OF HIS WIFE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY.

A LOT OF MY ARGUMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE AS FAR AS YOU CAN'T COMPEL SOMEONE TO GIVE BLOOD OR TISSUE TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.

IF A IF A FETUS IS AN INDIVIDUAL AND HAS A RIGHT TO LIFE, THEREFORE IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL AND THEREFORE ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL CANNOT BE COMPELLED TO GIVE IT BLOOD.

ALSO, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, ALL OF US, WE KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAD TO GET AN ABORTION, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT.

EVERYONE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN IT, BUT EVERYONE HAD TO.

SO HAVE A LITTLE COMPASSION.

ALSO, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THE NEWS.

THE JUDGE HAS ALREADY BLOCKED THIS AT SOME POINT FOR CERTAIN CLINICS OR WHATEVER.

SO THERE'S CLEARLY SOME WIGGLE ROOM.

AND ALSO, AS FAR AS PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING, OH, LET'S ADOPT AND LET'S FOSTER CARE, WHATEVER FOOD INSECURITY AFFECTS, LIKE SOMETHING LIKE 30% OF CHILDREN IN TEXAS. WE CAN'T FEED THE KIDS WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE COME ON.

SO SO A LOT OF THE PRO-LIFE OPPOSITION'S RATIONALE IN THIS IS ALMOST CERTAINLY IS ALMOST ENTIRELY ROOTED IN HALF BAKED CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION, DESPITE VISIBLE HYPOCRISY IN THE FORM OF THEIR TATTOOS, WHICH I SAW A LOT OF BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY SAYS, YOU CAN'T HAVE THOSE WOMEN SPEAKING UP HERE.

BOOK OF TIMOTHY SAYS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

AND ALSO IN NUMBERS, FUNNILY ENOUGH, THE FACT ABORTION WAS ONCE SERVED AS A PATERNITY TEST, THEY WOULD GIVE THE WOMAN BITTER WATER.

AND IF SHE MISCARRIED, IT WASN'T HER.

IT WASN'T HER HUSBAND'S. SO I REMIND THE COUNCIL, HOWEVER, THIS IS ALL COMPLETELY RELEVANT BECAUSE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS STOP AT THE INDIVIDUAL BELIEVER.

THANK YOU, RACHEL.

RACHEL MCMURRY.

RIGHT. RACHEL MCMURRAY.

RCA. EMCEE MURILLO.

OH, GOT IT. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE KRISTIN BRAY.

AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO ADJUST THE MICROPHONE DOWN.

YES. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOU A NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

HI, MY NAME IS RACHEL MCMURRAY.

I LIVE AT 1012 DENTON STREET.

I MOVED TO DENTON TO GO TO UNIVERSITY HERE, SPECIFICALLY TEXAS WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL ARE AWARE, IS ONE OF THE FIRST WOMEN'S ONLY UNIVERSITIES IN THE STATE, IF NOT THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

IT DIDN'T EVEN BECOME COED UNTIL 1994, WHEN I WAS FIVE.

AND IT STILL HAS A LARGE PROPORTION OF WOMEN STUDENTS.

EVEN TODAY I WOULD KNOW BECAUSE I WAS IN A CLASS OF LIKE OVER 100 AND I COULD COUNT ON ONE HAND THE NUMBER OF MEN IN IT.

AND. I HONESTLY THINK THAT Y'ALL SHOULD NOT PRIORITIZE CRIMINALIZING ABORTION.

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IT'LL COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY TO RESEARCH ALL THESE WOMEN WHO HAVE HAD MAYBE A MISCARRIAGE OR ACTUALLY DID GET AN ABORTION.

YOU WON'T KNOW.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY MONEY TO FIND OUT.

AND A LOT OF THE WOMEN WHO ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GET THESE ABORTIONS OR STUDENTS AT UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE IN THIS TOWN THAT PAY MONEY TO RENT HERE AND HAVE TO GET FINANCIAL AID NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN BECAUSE THE COST OF TUITION IS ATROCIOUS.

AND IF THEY ARE CRIMINALIZED, THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THEIR FINANCIAL AID.

THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL.

AND IF THEY CAN'T GO TO SCHOOL HERE, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO HOME, ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT IN JAIL.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO MEANS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SPENDING ANY MONEY AT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESSES.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT A LOT OF COLLEGE STUDENTS LIKE TO SPEND THEIR TIME AT THE BARS AND THOSE MAKE MONEY HAND OVER FIST.

IT WOULD ALSO BE A STAIN ON THE REPUTATION OF DENTON TO HAVE ONE OF THE FIRST WOMEN'S UNIVERSITIES AND TO TELL ALL THOSE WOMEN, HEY. IF YOU HAVE TO GET AN ABORTION FOR ANY REASON OR IF YOU HAVE A MISCARRIAGE FOR ANY REASON, YOU'RE NOT SAFE.

YOU'RE WORTHLESS.

YOU CAN'T GET AN EDUCATION.

BEGAN. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY AND LOSE ALL THE MONEY FROM THE STUDENTS THAT ARE FORCED TO LEAVE AND THEN DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO COME BACK TO WORK HERE AND LIVE HERE AFTER THEY GET THEIR EDUCATION? FINANCIALLY, IT MAKES NO SENSE.

REPUTATIONALLY, IT WILL NOT MAKE SENSE.

HUMAN RIGHTS WISE, IT WILL NOT MAKE SENSE.

SO PLEASE DO PRIORITIZE.

THANK YOU, JESSICA ROMO.

GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

OH, WHERE TO BEGIN? JESSICA LUTHER RUMMEL, 7400 NORTH LOCUST STREET AND TEXAS 76207.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY FAITH IN THIS BOARD, THIS COMMITTEE.

I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY FAITH IN GOVERNMENT ANYMORE AT ALL.

AND MOVING TO DENTON HAS FACILITATED THAT, BECAUSE SINCE I'VE MOVED HERE, I'VE BEEN ASSAULTED BY THE SHERIFF OF DENTON COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN ASSAULTED BY RADICALS WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS IN OUR TOWN SQUARE IN FRONT OF CITY AND COUNTY OFFICERS WHO DID NOTHING. BECAUSE MY LIFE MEANS NOTHING.

AND THE STATE OF TEXAS TELLS ME THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD TELL ME THAT WHEN I COME IN HERE AND I WATCH THEM FALLING ASLEEP WHILE PEOPLE SHARE SOME OF THE MOST PERSONAL MOMENTS OF THEIR LIVES. WHEN I WATCH PEOPLE FROM OUT OF CITY, FROM SAN ANTONIO, DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO BUILD UNAFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITIES, WHO YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM MAKING TIME FOR, MAKING EXTRA TIME FOR BEING INCREDIBLY POLITE TO.

AND THEN YOU SLEEP.

YOUR EYES ROLLING BACK IN YOUR HEAD WHILE PEOPLE TELL THEIR ABORTION STORIES.

THANK YOU FOR BEING BOLD ENOUGH TO PRESENT AN ISSUE THAT YOU KNOW WON'T PASS, BUT SO THAT IT COULD GIVE A VOICE TO PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND TELL THEIR STORIES.

WHICH I KNOW IS WHY YOU DID THIS.

BECAUSE WHAT CAN WE EXPECT? WHAT MORE CAN WE EXPECT? I'D LIKE TO YIELD THE REST OF MY 2 MINUTES, IF I MAY.

I STILL HAVE TO GO HOME AND TAKE CARE OF MY ANIMALS AND MY CHILDREN.

AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SCRAMBLING IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

BECAUSE ABORTION IS STILL HAPPENING.

IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE IT KEEPS HAPPENING.

AND IF I HAVE TO HAVE AN ABORTION EVERY EVERY SIX WEEKS IN PUBLIC TO FOCUS ATTENTION ON ME, I'LL DO IT.

IT SELLS.

IT'S LIKE A TOENAIL.

WE JUST CAN'T REACH IT.

BE APPALLED IF YOU WANT.

IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.

BUT I WANT TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE CRISIS PREGNANCY CENTERS TO WHICH EXIST HERE, AND THE FEW THAT ARE IN PROGRESS WHO

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WILL DIE OR WHO WILL LIVES ARE THROWN AWAY BECAUSE THEY WERE TRICKED OR COERCED INTO HAVING BABIES THEY DIDN'T WANT.

KRISTEN BRAY.

KRISTEN BRAY.

BRAY. AND THEN RHONDA JONES WOULD BE NEXT.

IT'S THIS THING ON. YES.

OKAY, COOL. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE BRAY ON 11 76201.

I GREW UP BAPTIST. I'M STILL CHRISTIAN.

SO I JUST WANTED TO READ A LITTLE BIT OF THE BIBLE IF I COULD.

AND THIS IS FROM NUMBERS FIVE, CHAPTERS 19 OR VERSES 19 THROUGH 22.

AND THIS IS DESCRIBING THE ABORTION RITUAL THAT I BELIEVE JUSTIN MENTIONED EARLIER.

THEN THE PRIEST SHALL PUT THE WOMAN UNDER OATH AND SAY TO HER, IF NO OTHER MAN HAS SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH YOU AND YOU HAVE NOT GONE ASTRAY AND BECOME IMPURE, WILL MARRIED TO YOUR HUSBAND, ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE NOT CHEATED.

THIS BITTER WATER WILL NOT BRING A CURSE THAT WILL HARM YOU.

BUT IF YOU HAVE GONE ASTRAY, THEN YOU HAVE MADE YOURSELF IMPURE BY HAVING SEXUAL RELATIONS.

THEN THE PRIEST IS TO PUT THE WOMAN UNDER THIS CURSE.

MAY THE LORD CAUSE YOU TO BECOME A CURSE AMONG YOUR PEOPLE.

AND MAY YOU CAUSE YOUR WOMB TO MISCARRY AND YOUR ABDOMEN TO SWELL.

MAY THIS WATER THAT BRINGS A CURSE ENTER YOUR BODY SO THAT YOUR ABDOMEN SWELLS OR YOUR OR YOUR WOMB MISCARRIES.

SO I THINK TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT THEIR FAITH SAYS, YOU KNOW, ABORTION IS NOT RIGHT, I THINK ABORTION IS A RIGHT, BIBLICALLY SPEAKING.

IN FACT, IT'S MANDATED.

AND THIS TEXT THAT I'M READING AND I JUST WANT TO CLOSE WITH A STATEMENT FROM THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST SEMINARY IN 1973 AFTER ROE VERSUS WADE PASSED. AND THIS IS ON THE DECISION OF ROE VERSUS WADE, THIS DECISION THAT OVERTURNED A TEXAS LAW WHICH DENIED A WOMAN THE RIGHT OF ABORTION EXCEPT TO SAVE HER LIFE, HAS ADVANCED THE CAUSE OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY, HUMAN EQUALITY AND JUSTICE.

THANKS. THANKS, RHONDA JONES.

RHONDA JONES.

RONDA AH H O N'DIAYE JONES.

NOPE. OKAY.

JEANNIE, HOW? YES.

IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

HI, I'M JEANIE. HOW? 824 LYNDHURST LANE.

DENTON, TEXAS. 76205.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I AM OPPOSED TO THIS RESOLUTION.

I BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS MISS MCGUIRE HAD A GOOD HEART IN THINKING OF IT, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A RECKLESS RESOLUTION. I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT ABORTION, NO MATTER THE REASON, IS MURDER.

A PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD, THOUGH, TO KNOW THAT MURDER IS WRONG.

HOWEVER, THAT SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

BECAUSE DESPITE THE HORRIBLE, TRAGIC STORIES WE'VE ALL HEARD TODAY OF THE ABORTIONS AND OUR RAPES, THAT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO IMAGINE HOW BAD THEY ARE.

I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE. IT IS HORRIBLE.

WE NEED TO LET THE PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOW THAT THIS IS A CITY OF LAWS, THAT THE STATES WILL BE GIVEN BACK THE CHOICE OF ABOUT ABORTION OR NOT ABORTION.

THERE WILL BE STATES THAT ALWAYS HAVE ABORTION AND THERE WILL BE STATES THAT GREATLY REDUCE IT OR MAYBE GET RID OF IT.

BUT THAT'S UP TO THOSE STATES CITIZENS TO COME AND VOTE EITHER TO CHANGE IT OR TO KEEP IT OR WHATEVER.

WE SHOULD HAVE THESE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAVE A LAW THAT YOU HAVE CERTAIN CHANNELS YOU GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO CHANGE THINGS, YOU CAN PROTEST PEACEFULLY, HOPEFULLY. I THINK ABOUT OUT THERE, ABOUT 20% OF THE PEOPLE I MET WERE PEACEFUL AND THEY WERE TALKING TO US AND LISTENING TO OTHER SIDES, BOTH SIDES LISTENING TO EACH OTHER, TALKING EACH OTHER, TRYING TO HAVE A DISCOURSE.

BUT I THINK ABOUT 80% WERE KIND OF SCARY IN THEIR EMOTIONAL WORDS THAT THEY WERE USING TO GET RID OF THE REST OF US WHO WERE THERE.

THEY DIDN'T WANT US THERE. THEY WANTED ONLY THEIR CHOICE AND THEIR WORDS AND THEIR OPINIONS LISTENED TO.

SO I HAVE THE FEELING THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THINK THAT DENTON CAN CHANGE THE RULES OF THE STATE LAW.

NOW, SOME OF THE MANDATES IN THE PAST WERE MANDATES.

AND SO MAYBE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ADJUST OR NOT ADJUST THOSE THAT THEY WILLED.

BUT THESE HAVE BEEN VOTED ON BY PEOPLE.

WE VOTED INTO OFFICE, AND THEN THEY THEREFORE PUT IT AT THE STATE LEVEL AND VOTED IT IN.

SO IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE CAN GO AND REVOTE.

BUT OTHERWISE, TO SAY THAT YOU CAN COME HERE EVERY DAY AND I'M GOING TO COME HERE EVERY DAY UNTIL YOU CHANGE YOUR MINDS, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS CITY, I BELIEVE, NOT A SAFE

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PLACE. I KNOW IT'S A VERY EMOTIONAL, SO I CAN'T SAY ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY RACE STORY DOWN THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE TODAY.

IT'S HORRIBLE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO FEEL LIKE.

WHEN THINGS NEED TO BE CHANGED, WE DO IT THE WAY IT'S PROPERLY.

I'M JUST A FIRM BELIEVER AND THINGS PROPER.

YOU CAN PROTEST? YES.

GO CHANGE THE LAWS, VOTE OTHER PEOPLE AND DO WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING ME TODAY.

THANKS. AND THEN THAT'S.

THEN THERE'S BEGGING.

FITZSIMONS, AM I CLOSE RD? PERFECT. THANK YOU.

SORRY. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE BRETT DAVIS.

DECLAN FITZSIMONS.

MY ZIPCODE IS 76201.

I MOVED HERE LAST YEAR BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT DENTON WAS A BETTER PART OF TEXAS, THAT AS A TRANSGENDER PERSON, I WOULD HAVE AN EASIER TIME HERE.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE SO FAR.

I WAS RAPED IN DECEMBER.

AND I DIDN'T I DID TRY TO CLOSE MY LEGS AND HE PRIED THEM OPEN.

SORRY. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE THREATENED TO RAPE ME, TO TURN ME STRAIGHT.

I HAVE BEEN THREATENED TO BE RAPED TO CHANGE.

SAYING THAT I JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE RIGHT PERSON.

TO MAKE ME FEEL LIKE THE RIGHT GENDER.

IT'S [EXPLETIVE].

FREAKED UP. THE BETTER.

MUCH THE BETTER.

I APPRECIATE YOU. AND I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ABOUT LAWS.

WE NEED TO WE'RE A CITY OF LAWS AND WE NEED TO ABIDE BY THE LAW.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO CREATED THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW WHO WANT TO GO FURTHER.

THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY MY RIGHT TO BE WITH MY PARTNER, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE A NON HETEROSEXUAL COUPLE, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE AN INTERRACIAL COUPLE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT STRIKING DOWN LOVING VIRGINIA AS WE SPEAK.

ARE Y'ALL GOING TO JUST BE LIKE, OH, IT'S JUST THE STATE WE GOT TO GO WITH WHAT THE STATE GOES WITH AS ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT.

HOW FAR BACK ARE WE GOING TO GO? DO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT? I ALREADY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MY PARTNER BEING SHOT.

I HAVE I HAVE PEOPLE THREATENING TO KILL ME BECAUSE OF MY GENDER, BECAUSE OF WHO I AM.

THERE'S A PASTOR 30 MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE WHO SAID WE SHOULD SHOOT GAY PEOPLE IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD.

LINE THEM UP AGAINST A WALL AND SHOOT THEM.

AND I HAVE TO GO OUT IN THE WORLD EVERY DAY KNOWING THAT.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEGALITY AND MORALITY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWS THAT THIS COUNTRY CAME UP WITH THAT WE CHANGED BECAUSE THEY WERE WRONG.

I ALSO WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THAT WE'VE LOST IN THIS PANDEMIC.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO LOSE MORE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS IN THE CITY? DO YOU REALLY WANT TO LOSE MORE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS? THERE ARE ALREADY HOMICIDE DEPARTMENTS PREPARING FOR THE NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO ARE GOING TO BE MURDERED BY THEIR HUSBANDS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET AN ABORTION.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. BRETT? BRETT DAVIS.

AND AFTER BRETT IS SHANNON DRAPER.

ALL RIGHT. HI, GUYS.

MY NAME IS BRAD DAVIS.

I LIVE AT 1014 MACK PLACE.

I'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

I'M SURE SOME OF YOU ARE SICK OF SEEING ME.

MAYBE SOME OF YOU AREN'T.

I DON'T KNOW. I DO THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO A BRIEF, LIKE, CIVICS LESSON FOR PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

I ACTUALLY GOT A HISTORY DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS DOWN THE STREET.

AND THERE'S A THING IN THE UNITED STATES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE CALL IT FEDERALISM.

AND IT'S A PRETTY BRILLIANT THING, YOU KNOW, THAT GOVERNMENT STARTS AT THE TOP, IT STARTS AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEN IT GOES DOWN TO THE STATES AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHTS TO MAKE THE LAWS THAT THEY WANT.

RIGHT. AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO THE COUNTIES AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO THE CITIES, AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO ALL THESE WEIRD LITTLE BOARDS THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T HEARD OF, BUT

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THESE GUYS COULD LIST THEM OFF FROM THE BACK OF THEIR HEAD.

KEEPING THAT IN MIND.

RIGHT. CITIES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CRAFT LAWS THAT ARE IN THE CONSTITUTION.

THE STATE CONSTITUTION ARE IN THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION.

IF DENTON HAD A RACCOON LIKE INFESTATION, THESE GUYS WOULD PASS A LAW TO DEAL WITH THE RACCOONS, RIGHT? I MEAN, AND THAT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT.

IT'S THE SAME THING, LIKE THE 10TH AMENDMENT.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SMART.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

ANYBODY WHO SAYS ANYTHING ELSE IS ARGUING IN BAD FAITH FOR ONE REASON OR THE OTHER.

IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE OF ELECTORAL IMPLICATIONS FOR THE FUTURE.

I DON'T KNOW. I DO WANT TO USE MY TIME TO THANK THE FOUR COUNSELORS VICKI BYRD, BRIAN BECK, BRANDON CHASE, MCGEE AND ALISON MAGUIRE FOR VOTING TO MOVE YOUR PROPOSAL FORWARD AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.

THERE'S STILL TIME FOR THE OTHER THREE.

I HOPE AFTER HEARING THESE WOMEN POUR THEIR HEARTS OUT FOR YOU, YOU TAKE NOTICE.

AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO DO.

I PROFESSIONALLY WORK ON CAMPAIGNS FOR A LIVING, AND I KNOW THAT IF ANYBODY ON THIS CITY COUNCIL VOTES AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT, I WILL SPEND EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING TO GET YOU ON ELECTED.

AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS.

AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.

CAN I GET A SHOW OF HANDS OF EVERYBODY? WHO WOULD DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO UNELECT PEOPLE WHO VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSITION TONIGHT.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE, ISN'T IT? THIS IS THE MOST UNIFYING ISSUE I HAVE EVER SEEN COME TO CITY HALL.

66% OF THIS COUNTRY SUPPORTS THIS.

AND IF ANYBODY TELLS YOU OTHERWISE, IT'S FOR POLITICAL MOTIVE.

THANK YOU, SHANNON DRAPER.

SHANNON. SHANNON DRAPER.

SHANNON DRAPER.

S H A IN N0NDR.

A P. E R.

OKAY. CARLA CAVA.

CRV A PALO AMATRICE.

HELLO? IT'S CARLA.

HELLO, MARS. I PREFER NOT TO GIVE MY ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

IT'S LATE. I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE.

THE BUCK STOPS HERE.

WE'VE BEEN FAILED BY OUR FEDERAL ELECTEDS.

WE'VE BEEN FAILED BY OUR STATE ELECTEDS.

WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING ALL OF YOU TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION, A SOLUTION BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE DONE THE WORK FOR YOU.

WE ARE ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION SO WE CAN DECRIMINALIZE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING JUST THROWN INTO OUR JAILS.

THE DENTON COUNTY JAIL, WHICH FAILED INSPECTION JUST LAST WEEK.

SO THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHY ALL OF YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THIS.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

WE ARE GOING TO SEE YOUNG WOMEN, YOUNG QUEER FOLKS, YOUNG, BLACK, BROWN PEOPLE OF COLOR BEING THROWN IN JAILS, BEING TIED UP IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO SEEK LIFE SAVING HEALTH CARE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LIFE SAVING MEDICAL PROCEDURE.

ABORTION IS HEALTH CARE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROTECT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, ALL OF THESE VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.

AND LOOKING AT YOU. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, JESSE.

LOOK AT YOU, CHRIS.

PLEASE STOP GIVING US THESE RIDICULOUS REASONS WHY YOU WOULD NOT SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU, ALISON.

THANK YOU, BRANDON.

THANK YOU, VICKI. THANK YOU, BRIAN, FOR VOTING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS EARLIER.

WE ARE EXCITED AND HOPE TO SEE THAT YOU VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS SHORTLY AFTER WE'RE DONE SPEAKING.

BUT WE ARE TIRED OK WE ARE TIRED OF HAVING TO COME OUT EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT OUR RIGHTS ARE BEING UNDER PUT UNDER ATTACK.

WE ARE GOING TO SEE.

BLATANT MURDER.

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WE'RE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE DYING IN JAILS AND HOSPITALS BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT SEEK THIS LIFE SAVING HEALTH CARE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

ALL OF YOU UP HERE KNOW IT'S ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

OK. AND YOU COMPLICIT IN MURDER, YOU'RE COMPLICIT AND PEOPLE BEING THROWN IN JAIL AND HAVING THEIR LIVES JUST COMPLETELY TURNED UPSIDE DOWN IF YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS.

I LOOK AT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, YOU ARE COMPLICIT IF YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS.

I YIELD MY TIME.

THANK YOU. STEVEN DILLON BERG, CECIL LAUREN.

I SAW HIM IN HERE EARLIER.

HE'S IN THE HALLWAY.

STEVEN DUISENBERG.

HE'S A REGULAR. YOU KICKED IT OUT LAST NIGHT.

I DIDN'T KICK HIM OUT. IS HE IN THE HALLWAY? SOMEONE OK.

HELLO. ONCE YOU GET SET UP YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES, WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN LOSING A MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVEN DILLON BURG, 1000 FOR ABBOTS LANE.

REAL QUICK, SOMETHING I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY HERE TONIGHT IS WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF THIS LAW? SO FOR 200 YEARS IN AMERICA, FROM ITS INCEPTION TO 1973, FETICIDE WAS ILLEGAL.

ALL RIGHT. WE DECIDED AS A PEOPLE THAT WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN.

AND SO FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT GOT CHANGED.

AND FROM MY SIDE OF THIS, I THINK WE GOT IT RIGHT AND WE NEED TO STICK WITH THAT FOR A CITY.

I GOT NOTICED THAT OUR CITY WAS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE OVERRIDING STATE LAW 4 HOURS BEFORE THIS MEETING ON A FACEBOOK POST, WHICH I'M GLAD YOU PUT TOGETHER THAT RALLY. YOU GUYS DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR VOICE THERE.

AND I MEAN, IF IT WASN'T YOU, YOU SPOKE THERE AND I STOOD UP FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT THERE.

WHEN SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO INTERRUPT THAT, I STEPPED IN AND SAID, NO, THIS ISN'T HOW WE DO THAT.

AND SO FOR ALL OF YOU ALL UP HERE, PLEASE RESPECT THE LAW.

ALL RIGHT. FETICIDE IS HOMICIDE FROM HOMO, MEANING MAN SIDE, MEANING KILLING OK.

THIS IS ONE SAPIENT BEING, DECIDING TO TAKE THE LIFE OF ANOTHER SAPIENT BEING PRE SAPIENS BEFORE ITS BRAIN IS DEVELOPED.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT JOHNS HOPKINS, IF YOU LOOK AT NORTHWESTERN, THEY ADMIT THAT THE MOMENT OF FERTILIZATION, THAT THERE IS A ZINK FIREWORK IS WHAT THEY CALL IT, BUT THERE'S A BIOLOGICAL LIGHT SHOW THAT HAPPENS WHEN A HUMAN EGG IS FERTILIZED BY A SPERM CELL.

SO AT THAT POINT, YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL LIFE.

AND SO THAT LIFE, FROM THE CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE RIGHT VERSUS WRONG PERSPECTIVE, HAS INHERENT VALUE.

AND THAT'S WHY THE LAW WAS WHAT IT WAS FOR 200 YEARS AND WHY WE PROBABLY NEVER SHOULD HAVE GONE AWAY FROM THAT.

AND SO FOR ANY CONSERVATIVES IN HERE, IF YOU ALL VOTE YES ON THIS, THAT IS GOING AGAINST YOUR VOTING BLOCK WITHOUT QUESTION.

AND FOR ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS SAYING THAT WE'RE WE'RE DENTON AND WE'RE ABOVE THE LAW, IF THE SUPREME COURT DOESN'T MATTER, YOU ALL GO AGAINST CITIZENS UNITED AND STOP TAKING CORPORATE MONEY.

YOU ALL GO AGAINST THINGS THAT SAY THAT YOU ALL HAVE IMMUNITY FROM UPHOLDING THE LAW GENERALLY.

BUT YOU ALL CANNOT PRIORITIZE.

PRIORITIZE ENFORCING ONE TYPE OF MURDER WITHOUT SAYING ALL MURDER IS NOT IMPORTANT.

IT'S IMPORTANT HOMICIDE IN GENERAL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, AND WE NEED TO ALLOCATE THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES TO INVESTIGATION OF ALL TYPES OF IT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TIME HERE TONIGHT.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.

LIKEWISE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THAT END OF PEOPLE IN PERSON SPEAKING.

AND LET ME SEE. SO NICK STEVENS, WE'LL SEE IF THIS IS WORKING.

MS.. NICK, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES AND YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO EITHER TIME YOURSELF OR HE'LL HEAR THE BELL RING.

OR I'LL BE KIND ENOUGH TO CUT YOU OFF AT 3 MINUTES.

JUST KIDDING. GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD.

MY NAME IS NICK STEVENS.

AREA CODE 76201.

I APOLOGIZE. I COULDN'T BE THERE IN PERSON.

I AM ON VACATION RIGHT NOW IN MAINE.

AND I LOVE THIS STATE.

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I LOVE THE PINE TREES AND THE BLUE WATER AND THE KIND PEOPLE AND THE GOOD FOOD.

ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE THE MOST ABOUT THIS STATE IS THAT MY PARTNER AND I COULD GET AN ABORTION HERE ANY TIME WE WOULD WANT ONE.

AND I'M UNDER NO ILLUSION BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND HOW GREAT OF A PRIVILEGE THAT IS AND THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT PRIVILEGE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHY THIS RESOLUTION NEEDS TO PASS.

DEVON CITY COUNCIL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THOSE WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE.

I MEAN, THAT IS YOUR BARE MINIMUM JOB.

AND I WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING REALLY QUICKLY.

IF YOU LOOK AROUND THAT ROOM AS I'VE BEEN LISTENING ON MY PHONE ABOUT WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE RIGHT NOW TO SPEAK OUT ON THIS AND TO URGE YOU TO DO THIS, I JUST POLITELY WANT TO PUT IT BLUNTLY.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRUST YOU.

THEY DON'T TRUST YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND SO THEY'RE BEGGING YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I WON'T TALK. YOU PROBABLY USE ALL MY TIME.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW MORE OBSERVATIONS FOR YOU.

ONE IS VOTING FOR THIS IS NOT BRAVE.

THIS IS NOT ANY TYPE OF POLITICAL COURAGE.

IT DOESN'T TAKE ANY TYPE OF VOTES.

BUT THIS IS BARE MINIMUM JOB THAT AT LEAST FOUR OF YOU HAVE TO DO THE BARE MINIMUM JOB.

AND WHEN YOU MOVE ON FROM PASSING THIS, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT YOU WILL NEED TO DO.

NUMBER ONE, I'M UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO HIRE A POLICE CHIEF, THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE AN OBLIGATION DURING THAT INTERVIEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER THEY HIRE IS GOING TO FOLLOW OUR LOCAL LAW.

AND SO I WANT YOU TO TAKE NOTES ON THAT.

AND THEN IN YOUR COMMENTS AT THE END OF THIS, COMMIT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE A POLICE CHIEF.

THAT WILL ACTUALLY DO THAT.

YOU SHOULD BE DOING THINGS LIKE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WITH THE WHITE HOUSE TO SET UP ABORTION FACILITIES ON FEDERAL LAND IN THE AREA.

YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION AS A COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FREE BIRTH CONTROL FOR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THIS CITY.

THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT YOU NEED TO DO.

AND I'LL ECHO THE WORDS OF FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AHMED.

THERE WERE FOUR PROGRESSIVES APPARENTLY THAT ARE ON THIS COUNCIL RIGHT NOW THAT APPARENTLY HAVE CONSISTENTLY CAMPAIGNED ON PROGRESSIVE VALUES.

WE WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.

AND YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ME, BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT BEFORE WITH OTHER INITIATIVES.

WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO REMOVE YOU FROM OFFICE IF YOU BETRAY THE CONSTITUENTS THAT PUT YOU IN OFFICE.

DO THE RIGHT THING.

VOTE YES. AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU HAVE SO MUCH MORE WORK TO DO.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

AND. DANIEL, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I AM. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

YEAH. SO WE CAN GIVE YOU YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS DANIEL O'FLAHERTY.

I'M A 3408 HOSTAGE DRIVE.

I OPPOSE THIS ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A GREAT RESOLUTION TO DEAL WITH A PROBLEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN EVERYONE HAS PRESENTED IT HERE TONIGHT.

THE KEY FACT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ATTORNEYS ARE NOT GOING TO BE GOING AFTER INDIVIDUAL WOMEN.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING AFTER THE ABORTION MILLS BECAUSE THAT'S THE CENTER WHERE THE HARM IS BEING DONE.

SO IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF RESOURCES THERE ADDRESSES.

THE DOCTORS ARE KNOWN THERE'S NO PROBLEM HERE.

THIS CAN BE DEALT WITH QUICKLY.

IT'S A BRAVE DECISION TO STEP BACK AND ALLOW ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE ALL ELECTED AND PUT IN AUSTIN TO DO THE RIGHT THING, ALLOW THEM TO REPRESENT US THE WAY WE WANT TO BE REPRESENTED AS A WHOLE STATE AND NOT TO ADOPT SOME INITIATIVE LOCALLY THAT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LEGAL REPRESENTATION BECAUSE OUR STATE WILL FOLLOW THE LAW THAT IS IN PLACE.

I YIELD MY TIME. THANK YOU.

AND. AND THIS.

ANISSA, ARE YOU THERE? MAYBE. THAT'S RIGHT. HELLO.

ARE YOU THERE? AND AGAIN, I SAY, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

HI. YEAH. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SEND US THE WAY.

OKAY. OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU.

AM I UP RIGHT NOW? YES. YOU HAVE TO TURN THE SOUND DOWN IN THE ROOM BECAUSE THERE'S A DELAY.

BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. OKAY, GOT IT.

WAIT A SECOND. LET ME TURN OFF.

WE'VE BEEN WATCHING, AND WE WEREN'T SURE HOW LONG THE DELAY WAS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

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MY NAME IS ANITA CABRERA.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SHARING MY ADDRESS, BUT MY LITTLE IS 76201.

I WANTED TO START BY SAYING I RESPECT AND ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE SPEAKERS WHO HAVE COME TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND OPINIONS.

I HOPE THE ONES THAT STUCK OUT TO THE COUNCIL LIKE THEY DID TO ME ARE THE ONES THAT DON'T SIMPLY POSE LOFTY HYPOTHETICAL ARGUMENTS, BUT THE ONES WHO ARE SHARING THEIR HEART WRENCHING LIVED EXPERIENCE.

I TOO, WANT TO SHARE MY LIVED EXPERIENCE AND WHY I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL SHOULD SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.

THE MOST SCARED I'VE EVER BEEN IN MY LIFE WAS AFTER MY THIRD SEXUAL ASSAULT.

I WAS 22 AND HAD JUST GRADUATED COLLEGE BUT HAD YET TO LAND MY FIRST JOB.

I WAS LIVING AT MY MOM'S PLACE AND I WAS WORKING PART TIME AND WITHOUT HEALTH CARE.

MY ASSAULTER WAS SOMEONE I COULDN'T TRUST.

RIGHT THEN I COULD THROW, LET ALONE SOMEONE WHO I COULD RELY ON TO SUPPORT ME AND MY CHILD THROUGH MOTHERHOOD.

I HAD I HAD MY WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF ME AND AT THE TIME, NO WAY TO INDEPENDENTLY SUPPORT MYSELF, LET ALONE A NEWBORN.

THANKFULLY, I WASN'T PREGNANT, BUT IT WAS A HARROWING COUPLE OF WEEKS OF NOT KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT I WOULD HAVE TO SACRIFICE MY HOPES FOR THE FUTURE SO I COULD SHOULDER A RESPONSIBILITY THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN MINE TO BEAR.

I COULD ALSO NOT IN GOOD FAITH, HAVE GIVEN THAT CHILD UP FOR ADOPTION, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE ADOPTION AND FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.

MY CLOSEST FRIEND ADOPTED HER CHILDREN AND THEIR ACCOUNTS OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND NEGLECT AT THE HANDS OF THEIR FOSTER FAMILY IS HORRIFIC AND FAR TOO COMMON.

MY ASSAULT IS ALSO NOT UNCOMMON AND IN FACT IS THE CASE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE WOMEN I KNOW.

MANY, MANY OF MY CLOSE FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS MEMBERS HAVE SUFFERED VARIOUS DEGREES OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, AND THAT TRAUMA IS ONLY FURTHER COMPOUNDED BY THE STRESS OF THE ECONOMIC AND EMOTIONAL BURDEN OF RAISING A CHILD SINGLE HANDEDLY.

ABORTION IS NOT A DECISION ANYONE MAKES LIGHTLY, BUT IS ONE THAT, THOUGH HEARTBREAKING, IS VITAL FOR THE ECONOMIC, EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL WELL-BEING OF ROUGHLY HALF THEIR CONSTITUENTS. THIS RESOLUTION IS MERELY TO PRIORITIZE ABORTION INVESTIGATIONS, NOT TO FLOUT STATE LAWS.

HAVING LIVED HERE FOR ALMOST A DECADE AND STEEPING MYSELF IN AS MANY ASPECTS OF ITS COMMUNITY, SINCE I KNOW IT FACES MUCH BIGGER ISSUES THAT DEMAND ITS RESOURCES THAN PURSUING WOMEN WHO ARE SUFFERING AND DESPERATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL OUR SPEAKERS QUESTION.

AND THERE'S EIGHT PEOPLE THAT DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK THAT FILLED OUT WHITE CARDS AND SUPPORT.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYONE.

SO QUESTIONS OUR COMMENTS.

COUNCILOR MAGUIRE JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WHEN I CAME IN EARLIER.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? BECAUSE I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

SO TO BE EQUITABLE.

I'M TRYING TO.

YEAH. IF YOU COULD IF WE COULD GET WELL.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DID WE TELL NOTES TO COME COMING UP? HOW MANY PEOPLE WE TELL? NO, I JUST WE'VE GOT TO BE EVEN, STEPHEN.

SO ANYONE WHO WANTED A CARD PRIOR TO THE ITEM BEING CALLED RECEIVED A CARD AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THAT IN.

I AM AWARE OF ONE PERSON WHO REQUESTED A CARD AFTER THE ITEM HAD BEEN CALLED.

GOT IT. NO.

YOU CAN FILL OUT A WHITE CARD AND AND YOU CAN CONVEY YOUR INFORMATION THAT WAY.

IT GOES INTO THE RECORD ALL THE SAME.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE. YEAH.

YEAH. IF I CAN FILL THEM OUT, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.

IS NO. MAYBE HE DIDN'T TELL US THERE WAS A FIGHT.

YES. WELL, THIS IS RYAN.

HE'LL HELP YOU GET THOSE DISSEMINATED AND SO THE PEOPLE CAN MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HEARD.

SO. SO WE'LL DO IT THAT WAY.

QUESTIONS. COMMENTS.

SO YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT DOWN, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT STAFF CAN GET IT EMAILED TO EVERYONE AND WE'LL GET YOUR ANSWERS.

SO QUESTIONS FROM FROM THE DAIS.

ANYONE COUNSEL. MAGUIRE THANK YOU.

SO THIS RESOLUTION, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, AFFIRMS THAT THE POSITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, LIMITED FUNDS AND STAFF TIME SHOULDN'T BE USED TO INVESTIGATE STORE OR REPORT INFORMATION RELATED TO PRIVATE MEDICAL DECISIONS.

BUT LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION.

NEITHER THE CHIEF OF POLICE NOR ANY DPD STAFF REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO EXPLICITLY SET DEPARTMENT POLICY, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND AS LEADERS IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SO.

LET'S ALSO BE CLEAR THAT THIS RESOLUTION DOESN'T MAKE ABORTION LEGAL AND DONE UNDER POLICE.

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DENTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE TEXAS RANGERS ALL SHARE JURISDICTION WITH THE DENVER POLICE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

AND THOSE AGENCIES MAY TAKE A HARDER STANCE ON ENFORCEMENT OF LAWS THAT INFRINGE UPON OUR RIGHT TO BODILY AUTONOMY.

WE'RE FORTUNATE IN DENTON TO HAVE A COMPASSIONATE LEADERSHIP IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND WHILE I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT CHIEF DIXON WILL SUPPORT HIRING A NEW CHIEF WHO SHARES HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY, THIS RESOLUTION WILL CLEARLY ESTABLISH WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AS A COMMUNITY AND WILL COMMUNICATE TO FUTURE LEADERSHIP THAT OUR RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT THEIR TAX DOLLARS USED TO PUNISH THEM FOR SEEKING MEDICAL CARE. TO CLARIFY THE PURPOSE AND LEGAL LIMITATIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION, I MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS.

THE SECTION READING.

WHEREAS THE SUPREME COURT MAY OVERTURN THE LANDMARK RULING SHALL BE AMENDED TO READ.

WHEREAS THE SUPREME COURT HAS OVERTURNED THE LANDMARK RULING.

SECTION TWO SHALL BE AMENDED TO READ.

IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT, EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW, CITY FUNDS WILL NOT BE USED TO.

SECTION THREE SHALL BE AMENDED TO READ.

IT IS THE FURTHER RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT, EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW, INVESTIGATION OF OR SUPPORT FOR THE PROSECUTION OF ANY ALLEGATION, CHARGE OR INFORMATION RELATING TO A PREGNANCY OUTCOME OR ANY PARTY THERETO WILL BE THE LOWEST PRIORITY FOR ENFORCEMENT AND THE USE OR ASSIGNMENT OF RESOURCES AND PERSONNEL. THE DATES IN SECTION FOUR SHOULD DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE AN ORAL PRESENTATION AND WRITTEN REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS RESOLUTION, INCLUDING CHANGES TO POLICIES AND PROCEDURES BY AUGUST 16TH, 2022, AND A WRITTEN REPORT ON JULY 29, 2022.

SECTION FIVE SHALL BE AMENDED TO READ.

THE CITY MANAGER MAY RETURN TO THE COUNCIL FOR AUTHORIZATION OF ANY NEEDED CLARIFICATIONS OR CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF FUTURE CHANGES TO FEDERAL LAW, STATE LAW, OR TECHNOLOGY THAT AFFECT THIS RESOLUTION.

OKAY. I'M ASSUMING STEPH HAS THAT ALREADY, RIGHT? WE DO COUNSEL AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE WE COULD HAND OUT COPIES OF THE DRAFT WITH THE RED LINE SO COUNCIL COULD GIVE YOU THOSE CHANGES IF YOU'D BE SO KIND.

NATIONAL JOURNAL.

YEAH. WE'LL GET TO HIM JUST.

JUST A SECOND. AND THEN CAN SOMEONE.

YEAH. GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHILE EVERYONE'S REVIEWING THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SHE WENT SECOND.

I'M SORRY. OH, IS THERE.

YEAH. IS THERE EITHER QUESTIONS OR A SECOND MATTERS? NOT A SECOND OK SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER.

BERT. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? SEA NONE.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS, YOU DID ASK FOR DISCUSSION, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS THANK EVERYONE WHO'S HERE AND WHO'S SPOKEN ALREADY FOR THE GREAT RESPECT THAT YOU PAID FOR THE MOST PART TO EACH OTHER AND ESPECIALLY TO THE VICTIMS OF CRIME, ESPECIALLY VIOLENT CRIME.

WE HEARD FROM MANY OF YOU ALL TONIGHT.

AND BY AND LARGE, EVERYONE HERE IN THE ROOM WAS VERY RESPECTFUL TO EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAD TO COME UP AND GIVE SOME OF THE MOST RELATE SOME OF THE MOST TRAUMATIC EVENTS THAT HAVE EVER HAPPENED TO THEM.

AND THEY WERE FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE WHO HAD TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES TO SHARE.

AND AS SOMEBODY WHO PROSECUTES THOSE CRIMES, I WANT TO THANK YOU ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMPASSION YOU SHOWED THOSE FOLKS.

THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S HARD TO TELL WHO ALL IN THE ROOM OR WHO ALL WHO SPOKE, READ THE RESOLUTION AND WHO ALL AND WHO IN THE ROOM.

READ THE SO CALLED TRIGGER LAW IN TEXAS AND KNOWS WHAT EACH OF THESE THINGS SAY AND WHAT THEY DON'T SAY.

I WANT TO ALSO APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER MAGUIRE HAS DONE BY OFFERING AN AMENDMENT TO HER ORIGINALLY PROFFERED RESOLUTION, ACKNOWLEDGING SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS OF WHAT THE CITY'S AUTHORITY IS.

BUT ALSO IT HELPS TO ILLUSTRATE THAT SOME OF THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT DID NOT SEEM TO HAVE A FIRM GRASP OF WHAT THE TEXAS TRIGGER LAW ACTUALLY DOES. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HOW PROSECUTORS AND POLICE AND OTHER PLACES WILL HANDLE THE LAW.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HOW COURTS WILL INTERPRET THE LAW.

BUT THE LAW IS WRITTEN, DOES NOT PROPOSE TO PROSECUTE WOMEN DIRECTLY.

IT PROPOSES TO PROSECUTE DOCTORS AND PROVIDERS.

WE CAN'T SAY EXACTLY HOW THIS IS GOING TO UNFOLD IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

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WE CAN SAY DEFINITIVELY THAT THE CITY OF DENTON DID NOT PUT THE ROE DECISION IN PLACE.

WE DID NOT OVERTURN THE ROE DECISION.

WE DID NOT WRITE THE TRIGGER LAW.

AND AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER MCGUIRE'S VERY ASTUTE AND APPROPRIATE AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE CITY OF DENTON, AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE US TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, HAS NO AUTHORITY IN THIS AREA.

THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE DIRECTED BY THIS RESOLUTION TO GIVE US A REPORT ON THE NOTHING THAT SHE CAN DO AND THE CITY WILL EVENTUALLY HIRE ANOTHER POLICE CHIEF. WE HAVE CURRENTLY CHIEF DIXON AND THE ACTING CHIEF WHO REPORTS TO HIM, WHO WILL REPORT TO US ON THE EXACTLY NOTHING THAT THEY CAN DO DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE NOTHING IS DIFFERENT TODAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON THAN IT WAS A WEEK AGO.

THERE IS THERE ARE NO MORE OR NO FEWER ABORTION PROVIDERS IN THE CITY OF DENTON THAN THERE WERE A WEEK AGO.

THE CITY GOVERNMENT HAS NO MORE OR NO MORE, NO LESS AUTHORITY OVER THE PROVISION OF ABORTION SERVICES.

AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE TO ME THAT THIS POLITICAL SHIBBOLETH, THIS SIGN OF OUR TRIBE, THIS WAY OF INDICATING WHICH SIDE YOU'RE ON AND PERHAPS THE MOST DIVISIVE ISSUE CURRENTLY IN OUR NATIONAL DISCOURSE HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO THESE CHAMBERS.

I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED AND HONESTLY PROUD OF HOW OUR PEOPLE HAVE COMPORTED OURSELVES.

IT MAY SURPRISE YOU TO HEAR I'M PRETTY PROUD OF THE PROTEST THAT SHOWED UP TO HAVE THEIR HAVE THEIR SAY TODAY.

BUT AS PASSIONATE AS EVERYONE HAS BEEN ON THIS ISSUE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THIS RESOLUTION PASSES OR NOT.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THAT PASSION SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT OTHER PLACES.

AUSTIN DOESN'T REALLY CARE WHAT THE CITY OF DENTON GOVERNMENT HAS TO SAY.

THEY CARE WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY.

NOT. NOT ONE OF US.

THIS CITY BODY DOES NOT APPOINT THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

WE DON'T APPOINT THE JUDGES.

I CAN'T VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT'S A DEAD LETTER.

IT DOES NOTHING.

IT AFFECTS NOTHING.

I'M GOING TO BE VERY EASY FOR ME, REGARDLESS OF HOW COMPELLING SOME OF THESE STORIES WERE TO VOTE NO TO THIS, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.

ANYONE ELSE. COUNCILMAN? I'M GOING TO TELL THE STORY ABOUT WHEN I WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR TEN YEARS AT TEXAS WOMAN'S UNIVERSITY.

THREE OF THOSE TEN YEARS, I WAS THE ONLY FEMALE POLICE OFFICER ON THAT CAMPUS.

AND THAT BROUGHT ME TO A LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT AND SEXUAL AWARENESS AT AT THAT UNIVERSITY.

AND I BECAME THE CAMPUS GO TO PERSON FOR THAT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL STATE THAT THERE WAS NUMEROUS TIMES AS THE ONLY FEMALE POLICE OFFICER ON THE CAMPUS THAT I WAS CHARGED WITH.

THE THE EMOTIONAL, THE SISTERHOOD, THE WHATEVER IT TOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER CALLED ON ME WAS TREATED AS DELICATELY AS I POSSIBLY COULD.

AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF TIMES WHEN I HAD TO TAKE STUDENTS TO THE HOSPITAL FOR RAPE EXAMINATIONS.

I HAD TO TAKE ON THOSE THINGS.

SO 30 YEARS AGO, A YOUNG WOMAN CAME RUNNING INTO THE POLICE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND SHE NEEDED SOMEONE TO HELP GO GET HER CHILD FROM THE CHILD CARE CENTER.

AND THAT FELL ON ME.

I THINK I WAS JUST THE NEXT IN LINE IN GETTING THOSE CALLS AND SHE WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM A SPOUSE.

SO I BECAME VERY FAMILIAR AND FRIENDLY WITH FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY.

BUT AS WE WERE PICKING UP HER DAUGHTER FROM THE CHILDCARE CENTER AND I'M LOOKING AROUND TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE THE SPOUSE IS THAT SHE WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM.

AND SHE HAD MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SEPARATED.

AND HE WAS VERY UPSET THAT SHE HAD GOTTEN PREGNANT BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.

SO WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS, IS THAT I PICKED THEM UP, TOOK THEM WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GO.

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AND WHILE I WAS ON VACATION, IT'S JUST LIKE THE NEXT WEEK WHEN WE WENT ON THANKSGIVING VACATION, I HAD GOTTEN A CALL FROM ONE OF MY FELLOW OFFICERS, AND HE TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE EX HUSBAND OR THE PARTNER OR WHATEVER IT WAS HAD BROKEN INTO THE HOME AND HAD MURDERED HER RIGHT OVER HERE ON ROUTE STREET.

AND SO THAT TOUCHED ME.

AND THAT'S 30 YEARS AGO.

AND THAT TOUCHED ME ENOUGH FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO TELL THAT STORY.

BECAUSE AS WOMEN, PERIOD, WE HAVE WE JUST WE JUST GOT A HOLD ON TO WHO WE'RE TRYING TO BE.

AND IF THAT TAKES FOR US TO BECOME MORE EDUCATED, IF THAT TAKES US TO MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS, IF THAT TAKES US TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES LIKE WE'RE LIKE WE'RE EXPECTED TO, THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT AS A WOMAN TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LIVES ARE PROTECTED.

SO THIS THIS THIS RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, HE'S RIGHT.

IN A LOT OF WAYS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY MUCH THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

AND I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WHO'S CHASING DOWN PEOPLE, TRYING TO HAVE A THAT'S TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN BODILY FUNCTIONS? WHO IS GOING TO CALL THE POLICE AND SAY, OH, I THINK SOMEBODY'S HAVING AN ABORTION, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE POLICE IS GOING TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO THIS BURGLARY CALL BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GO OVER HERE AND PUT THIS PERSON OR FIND THE PERSON THAT'S TRYING TO DO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET.

IT'S JUST IT JUST ALL OF THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

BUT STILL, I GO BACK TO SAY THAT WHATEVER IT TAKES FROM ME TO PROTECT MY LIFE, MY BODY, MY MIND, MY SPIRIT, MY CARE.

FOR ME, THAT IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO.

SO RESOLUTION IS JUST DON'T JUST DON'T CRIMINALIZE.

HEALTH CARE DON'T CRIMINALIZE THE WELL-BEING OF ME.

IT WAS ALREADY HARD TO GET INSURANCE AROUND HERE, AND NOW WE'RE ADDING THIS TO THE PROCESS.

SO I DON'T I'M GOOD.

I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS.

THIS IS JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT REASON.

I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO IMAGINE ALL THE JAIL CELLS FULL OF ALL THE WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN JAIL BECAUSE OF A HEALTH CARE SITUATION.

ARE WE GOING TO BE ON NEW JAILS? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? OK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OK ANYONE ELSE? NONE. YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND YOU HERE.

I UNDERSTAND. HE KNOWS VERY WELL THE PROCESS.

WE'RE ALL GOOD HERE.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A 100%.

I APPRECIATE THE HELP.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MCGEE.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WILL TRY TO BE SUCCINCT AND RESPECT EVERYBODY'S TIME.

I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM TO GET TO, SO I RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK VIA EMAIL ABOUT MAKING DENTON A SANCTUARY CITY.

SO I WANT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO WHILE MANY OF US DISAGREE WITH THE SUPREME COURT DECISION AND THE TRIGGER LAW, THERE IS NOTHING CITY COUNCIL CAN DO TO MAKE DENTON A SANCTUARY CITY FROM ENFORCEMENT OF STATE'S ABORTION LAWS.

OUR POLICE ARE ONLY ONE OF MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES OR OTHERS THAT CAN ENFORCE THE TRIGGER LAW WITHIN OUR CITY'S BOUNDARIES.

IN ADDITION, THE CITY OF DENTON AND ITS EMPLOYEES, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES, MUST COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.

OUR POLICE OFFICERS TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAW, EVEN THOSE THAT THEY FIND PERSONALLY OBJECTIONABLE.

WHILE THE CITY COUNCIL, AS THE GOVERNING BODY, MAY EXPRESS ITS EXTREME DISPLEASURE WITH THE SUPREME COURT DECISION AND THE LEGISLATURE, ANY ACTION TAKEN BY COUNCIL TO DECRIMINALIZE ABORTION OR THWART THE REPORTING, INVESTIGATION AND PROSECUTION OF A CRIME INCLUDING DESIGNATING DENTON AS A SANCTUARY CITY, IS PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW AND COULD SUBJECT PROVIDERS AND OUR EMPLOYEES TO CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES.

OK DENTON IS NOT GOING TO BE A SANCTUARY CITY.

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WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

SO OK.

OK. OK.

OK. OK.

ALL RIGHT, MR. CARR OR SOMEBODY? YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO START.

START RUNNING THEM OUT OF HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.

SO THAT'S JUST HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

OK SO.

OK DEFINITELY NOT.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE TO TALK TO, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO TO THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY, I WANT TO SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR THE THREATS AND INTIMIDATION THAT EACH OF US HAS GOTTEN AS A RESULT OF THIS.

IT'S NOT RIGHT AND IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

WE SHOULD BE BETTER THAN THAT, NO MATTER HOW WE VOTE.

I KNOW YOU ALL'S HEART.

I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT I'M A MEMBER OF THIS BODY WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE DENTON, EVEN THROUGH OUR DISAGREEMENTS.

THAT, FOR ME, IS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE FAMILY.

SO I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO OUR AMAZING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL.

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU DID TONIGHT TO KEEP US SAFE AND PROTECT US.

BUT I AM THANKFUL THAT YOU DID.

AND YOU DO IT EVERY DAY.

TO FOLKS WHO SHOWED UP TO PROTEST TONIGHT.

I AM SO THANKFUL FOR YOU ALL ADDING YOUR VOICE TO THE PROCESS.

I USED TO BE ONE OF YOU.

SO.

YOU'RE SCARING IT OFF.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GO RIGHT AHEAD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO I APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO'S EMAILED, CALLED AND TEXTED ME.

IT MEANS A LOT, AND IT HELPS ME GOVERN MY DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

SO I'M GOING TO TALK TO SOME SPECIFIC FOLKS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO. IF YOU KNOCK DOORS FOR ME, MADE CALLS FOR ME, AND HELP ME IN MY CAMPAIGN IN ANY WAY.

I'M SO THANKFUL FOR YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I DO TONIGHT, DON'T DO IT NEXT TIME.

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.

TO IF YOU ENDORSED MY CAMPAIGN, I APPRECIATE YOU, PARTICULARLY TO THE OCCUPANT OF THIS SEAT BEFORE ME.

I APPRECIATE YOU. I'M THANKFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID FOR ME.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I'M DOING NOW, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO.

YOU CAN RUN AGAINST ME IN TWO YEARS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BATTLE.

LET'S DO THAT.

OK. YOU CAN GO ON, FAITH.

LET'S. YEAH, LET'S. LET'S TAKE IT.

LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

LET'S TAKE A BREAK.

WE'LL GO TO 5 MINUTES.

WELCOME BACK TO THIS MEETING.

I DIDN'T SAY CITY COUNCIL.

IT IS 1055 AND COUNCILMEMBER MCGEE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M GOING TO PICK BACK RIGHT WHERE I LEFT OFF TO COUNCILWOMAN ARMENTA.

I DOUBT NO LESS THAT SHE'LL BE WATCHING ON ONLINE.

AND YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND TEAR ME A NEW ONE.

THAT'S FINE.

SEE, WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THAT IT HITS DIFFERENT ONCE YOU SIT IN THE SEAT, ONCE YOU ARE READING THE LEGAL STATUS REPORTS AND PRIVY TO INFORMATION THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOT NECESSARILY PRIVY TO.

I WOULD EXPECT A FORMER MEMBER OF THIS BODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT COUNCILWOMAN ALMONTE, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR THREAT SAYING GO WORK ON ME.

I'M NOT THAT DUDE.

YOU CAN DO IT ALL DAY LONG.

YOU WANT TO GO AND PUT MY ADDRESS OUT ONLINE? THAT'S FINE. I INVITE YOU TO.

WE CAN DO THAT ALL DAY LONG.

I WOULD EXPECT THE FORMER MEMBER OF THIS BODY TO HAVE MORE RESPECT AND DECORUM FOR A MEMBER OF THIS BODY.

BUT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR THREATS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RUN AGAINST ME.

I INVITE YOU TO RUN AGAINST ME.

I INVITE EVERYBODY TO RUN AGAINST ME IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

IF YOU WANT TO RECALL ME, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

YOU CAN'T RECALL ME FOR NINE MONTHS.

SIX MONTHS.

I APPRECIATE THAT, RICHARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNT THE DAYS AND THEN RECALL ME.

LET'S DO THAT.

I. SO LET'S DO THAT.

HE'S AT LARGE. BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND THINK VERY CAREFULLY.

I WANT A CITYWIDE ELECTION.

THERE MIGHT NOT BE SOMEONE WITH MY POLITICAL PROCLIVITIES TO SIT IN THIS CITYWIDE SEAT AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO WIN A CITYWIDE ELECTION RUNNING IN A

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DISTRICT THAT'S DIFFERENT.

SO IF SOMEONE IS UNHAPPY ABOUT WHO'S SITTING IN THIS SEAT RIGHT NOW, YOU COULD HAVE VOTED FOR MY OPPONENT.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE ALL KNOW HOW HE GOING TO VOTE.

TO THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST ME RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD HOW A VOTE.

SO HOLD ON AND MIGHT GET GOOD TO YOU IF YOU WORKED ON MY CAMPAIGN AND YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK ON THE CAMPAIGN NEXT TIME, THAT'S FINE.

AGAIN, THAT'S LIFE.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS POLITICS.

IT'S A LONG GAME.

I GOT AS I TOLD PEOPLE, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH WHAT I DO IN THIS SEAT.

WE'RE ONLY IN THIS SEAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, AS I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, GOD IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE DONE IN LIFE. WHAT HE'S NOT GOING TO DO IS ASK ME ABOUT SOMETHING NEFARIOUS THAT I DID ON THIS COUNCIL.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUT ANY OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES OR OURSELVES IN LEGAL JEOPARDY.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT.

NOW, LASTLY, TO THE PERSON WHO INTRODUCED THIS RESOLUTION.

I AM SO PROUD OF YOU FOR DOING THIS.

I APPRECIATE THE COURAGE THAT YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED AND YOU HAVE PUT FORWARD.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE.

WHEN I TOLD YOU I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SOME OF THE LANGUAGE AND YOU IMMEDIATELY MOVED TO AMEND.

THAT'S GOOD GOVERNMENT.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

I'M SO PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS BODY AND SIT NEXT TO YOU EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

SO IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL FOUR PEOPLE WHO GAVE DIRECTION TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. I SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.

I'LL BE VOTING YES.

COUNCILMAN COUNTS.

EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S. OH YEAH, I THINK SO.

YEAH. THAT WAS THAT WAS THE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME AND SHARED THEIR VERY DEEPLY INTIMATE, PERSONAL, HORRIFIC, TRAGIC STORIES.

THAT TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COURAGE TO COME FORWARD AND TO DO THAT NO MATTER HOW YOU STAND ON THIS ISSUE.

AND I THINK WHAT'S DISAPPOINTING TO ME IS THAT THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN COUCHED AT THIS RESOLUTION LEVEL AS EITHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST THIS OR THAT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES AT ALL.

AND I'LL REITERATE WHAT I SAID AT THE TIME THAT THIS RESOLUTION WAS PROFFERED IN THE WORK SESSION AND THE TWO MINUTE PITCH.

TWO MINUTE PITCH.

FIRST, THE RESOLUTION WAS TO COME THREE OR FOUR WEEKS FROM NOW.

THEN THE RESOLUTION WAS SAID TO, WE'VE GOT TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.

NOW I GET A RESOLUTION WITH CHANGES THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN UNTIL I GET TO THIS DAIS.

THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS.

WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION IS IN MATERIAL TO THAT.

THERE'S A PROCESS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK THROUGH THESE TYPES OF RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES AND WORK SESSIONS. SO I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES, ALBEIT THE CHANGES TO ME DON'T DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH.

BECAUSE THE POLICE BUDGET IS $40 MILLION.

I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT THE STATE DOESN'T GIVE US ANY MONEY TO ENFORCE THIS RESOLUTION, QUOTE UNQUOTE.

THOSE ARE CALLED UNFUNDED MANDATES.

GUESS WHAT? $40 MILLION OF THE POLICE BUDGET ARE PRETTY MUCH UNFUNDED MANDATES BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE STATE AND PROVIDE INVESTIGATIONS. IF IF THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE NEEDS IT FOR SOME CRIME THAT'S COMMITTED IN THE CITY.

SO I TRUST OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR TRUST OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR TRUST, OUR POLICE CHIEF TO MAKE THE MOST EFFICIENT RESOURCES TO MAXIMIZE THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT INCLUDES STAKING OUT PARTICULAR TYPES OF BUSINESSES.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT MEANS GOING ON A PROACTIVE SEARCH BECAUSE WE HAVE CRIME IN THIS CITY.

WE'VE HAD OVER, I THINK, 11 SHOOTINGS THAT HAVE SOME HAVE RESULTED IN FATALITIES.

AND SO I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

AND BECAUSE TO ME, THIS ISN'T A RESOLUTION ABOUT ABORTION, ABOUT WHETHER YOU CAN OR CANNOT GET AN ABORTION IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

THIS RESOLUTION DOESN'T CHANGE THAT, AS THE SPONSOR SO CLEARLY ARTICULATED.

AND THEN LASTLY, BECAUSE THIS IS BEING MADE ON THE FLY.

WHEN I LOOK AT SECTION FOUR, WHICH IS REQUIRING THE CITY MANAGER, I'LL JUST READ IT TO TAKE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO IMPLEMENT THIS RESOLUTION AND TO PROVIDE AN ORAL PRESENTATION IN WRITTEN REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THE IMPLEMENTATION.

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IF IT'S JUST RECOMMENDATIONS.

THERE'S NO IMPLEMENTATION.

IT'S JUST THE COUNCIL SAYING THIS IS OUR PREFERENCE, SO I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS NOT BECAUSE I'M MAKING A PERSONAL STATEMENT ABOUT ABORTION.

I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I'M MAKING A PERSONAL STATEMENT ABOUT THE LACK OF PROCESS THAT GAVE ALL OF US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE OUR OWN THOUGHTS AND TO SHARE OUR OWN IDEAS AND TO POSSIBLY EVEN HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CRAFT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE ALL COULD HAVE AGREED UPON.

SO THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME MAKING A PERSONAL STATEMENT ABOUT THE ISSUE.

IT'S ABOUT THIS ISN'T HOW WE DO GOVERNMENT IN THIS CITY.

BECAUSE I TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IF IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT YOU ALL WERE AGAINST, THERE'S NO WAY YOU WOULD WANT SOMEONE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL LIKE ME, FOR INSTANCE, TO MAKE SOME RESOLUTION THAT YOU INTERPRETED AS ANTI SOMETHING WITHOUT ASKING MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES TO WEIGH IN ON THAT BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT CONSTITUENTS IN THIS CITY.

SO YOU CAN CATCH IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.

AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY IT'S POLITICAL LEANINGS.

IT'S NOT. IT'S BECAUSE THE PROCESS TO ME HAS NOT ALLOWED FOR THE FULL DISCUSSION.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

GOOD GRIEF. LOOK WHAT IT'S DOING TO OUR COUNTRY.

AND I HAVE A RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF ME THAT'S CHANGED LITERALLY AS I'M SITTING HERE.

I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS.

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S IF IT'S SUBMITTED BY THE MOST CONSERVATIVE PERSON IN THIS CITY.

I'M GOING TO SAY NO, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HONOR THE PROCESS THAT I BELIEVE IN, THAT I BELIEVE LEADS TO GOOD GOVERNANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT ALL THE SPEAKERS OF PRO AND CON OR RATHER ALL THE COUNCILORS, PRO AND CON IN TALKING ABOUT THE RATIONALES AND THEIR THOUGHT PROCESSES HAVE SAID AND I COMPLETELY SHARE IS IS THAT IT DOES WE WE DO REALLY APPRECIATE WHETHER WE SUPPORT YOUR YOU OR YOUR OR WE ARE OPPOSED TO YOUR VIEW.

YOU'LL SEE IN A SECOND.

WE HONESTLY DO APPRECIATE THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE CITY.

WE OUR JOB IS MADE EASIER, BETTER, MORE LASTING AND MORE REPRESENTATIVE WHEN PEOPLE ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS.

SO THAT ISN'T HYPERBOLE.

ALL SEVEN OF US AGREE WITH THAT.

SO AT FIRST, I REALLY I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S A POINT OF CONSENSUS.

I THINK YOU'LL SEE ACROSS THE DICE.

THE SECOND THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS I WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FOLKS.

AND THE WAY WE TAKE THAT GOOD PROCESS, THE WAY WE HAVE GOOD, REPRESENTATIONAL GOVERNMENT IS IS TO LET OUR VIEWS BE KNOWN, WHICH IS WHAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF FOLKS IN PROTEST AND IN SPEAKING DID.

BUT BUT LET'S NOT LET'S NOT MAKE THREATS.

LET'S NOT CREATE A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN YOUR RATIONALE.

YOU CAN'T, AFTER EXPLAINING THAT, BUILD A BRIDGE TO UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THAT UNDERSTANDING, MAYBE YOU WON'T GET WHAT YOU WANT, BUT YOU WON'T GET SOMEONE FIGHTING AS VEHEMENTLY AGAINST YOU.

IF THEY UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEWPOINT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHARE IT.

BUT LET'S NOT MAKE THREATS.

I'M GOING TO STAND BY THAT.

AND SO TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE HAPPY OR SAD TONIGHT, LET'S LET'S NOT MAKE THREATS IF YOU DON'T LIKE A THING.

LET'S LET'S FOLLOW THE POLITICAL PROCESS AND DO THAT VOTE WILL COMMUNICATE WITH US.

BUT THREATS ARE NOT THE WAY TO THIS.

AND I'LL SAY I FEEL AS PASSIONATELY AS A PERSON THAT DOESN'T HAVE A UTERUS AS I POSSIBLY CAN ABOUT MANY OF THE POINTS THAT FOLKS HAVE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.

BUT AGAIN, AS COUNCILOR MAGUIRE SAID, THIS ISN'T ABOUT MAKING A SANCTION OR OUTLAWING ABORTION OR PROMOTING ABORTION, AS COUNCILOR MCGEE SAID ABOUT MAKING A SANCTUARY CITY.

NONE OF THOSE ARE ACCURATE.

THIS THIS IS ABOUT SAYING THAT THIS CITY SETS CERTAIN PRIORITIES AND THAT WE WE JUST DID THIS AT THE RETREAT.

WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE TIME ON HOUSING.

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WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE TIME ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO SET A BUDGET FOR POLITICAL, PARTICULAR ELECTRICAL INNOVATIONS.

AND WE TRIED TO BUILD CONSENSUS OVER THAT.

AND WE TRY TO HAVE UNDERSTANDING BACK TO MY OTHER POINT.

SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, EVEN UNDER DISAGREEMENT IS WE'RE GOING TO SET THOSE PRIORITIES.

AND SO IF IF A MAJORITY OF A QUORUM OF COUNCIL SAYS TO THE COMMUNITY, WE HEAR YOU, WE, WE WE AGREE THAT THAT PRIVATE PERSONAL HEALTH CARE MATTER SHOULD BE OUR CRIMINALIZING.

THOSE SHOULD BE THE LOWEST PRIORITY.

WE SHOULD TREAT THAT LIKE JAYWALKING, WHICH IS ON THE BOOKS, BUT WE DON'T ENFORCE IT.

PEOPLE CROSS CONSTANTLY, EVERYWHERE, NOT AT THE CROSSWALKS.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TREAT IT LIKE THAT.

AND IF WE'RE CALLED TO BY THE STATE, WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT OUR STAFF, OUR CITIZENRY OR POLICE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB BECAUSE OF OF FOR OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE AS IMPORTANT.

SO WE ARE PRIORITIZING THIS.

DO I WISH THAT WE HAD THE LUXURY OF OF FULLY PUTTING THIS OUT AND PUTTING UP THIS FIRE AND GETTING TO A BETTER PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ON SLAVERY, UTERINE SLAVERY.

AND I'M USING THOSE BOLD TERMS ON PURPOSE.

WE CAN'T HAVE WOMEN BE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS, BUT THIS RESOLUTION ISN'T GOING TO DO THIS.

THIS IS GOING TO SAY THAT THIS COMMUNITY SAYS WE'RE NOT GOING TO PRIORITIZE THE CRIMINALIZATION OF PRIVATE HEALTH CARE MATTERS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE LAST THING WE DO.

WE ARE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS EACH OTHER.

WE'RE NOT A COMMUNITY THAT CRIMINALIZES EACH OTHER.

AND IN FACT, IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COVER FOR FOR AN OFFICER THAT DIDN'T FELT LIKE, OKAY, I'VE GOT TO ENFORCE THE LAW.

I'VE GOT THESE CONFLICTING STATE STATEMENTS NOW.

AND I HAVE COVER FROM THE CITY THAT SAYS IT'S A LOW PRIORITY.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DO ALL THAT SAID, WE DO SET PRIORITIES.

AND I WILL SAY, JUST IN RESPONSE TO THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID IN THE DAIS, WE DO SOMETIMES MAKE PRIORITY AND NOT SOMETIMES.

WE OFTEN MAKE PRIORITIES ON THE FLY.

THERE'S A REASON THAT THAT STAFF WAS QUICKLY ABLE TO REDLINE AND DISTRIBUTE AND CHANGES THAT WERE SUGGESTED IN AN AMENDMENT.

WE DO THAT CONSTANTLY, SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY NONSENSE ABOUT THAT.

WE CAN'T. WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO READ IT.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO INTERPRET IT.

I IF THAT'S THAT'S OUR ATTITUDE, THEN I DON'T WANT EVER WANT TO SEE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT EVER AGAIN OUT OF THIS BODY.

THAT'S STILL NOT BE THE WAY WE DO THINGS.

SO THAT THAT IS JUST SILLINESS.

BUT WE'VE HAD WE KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL MAGUIRE SPOKE THE CHANGES.

WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE CHANGES.

THEY WERE MINOR CHANGES THAT PROTECT STAFF AND YET STILL SAY, OKAY, THE THIS COMMUNITY AND IT'S COUNCIL SUPPORT IT'S WOMEN IT'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE UTERUSES AND WE ARE GOING TO SAY YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PRIORITIZE THIS.

IT IS IT IS NOT IN THE COMMUNITY INTEREST.

IT'S NOT A COMMUNITY SPIRIT.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING YES, AS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPECT FROM FROM THIS LANGUAGE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THEN I'LL SHARE MY THOUGHTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON AND GET GET GET TO THE NEXT ITEM.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

IF SOMEONE CAN COME UP AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND WITH RESPECT TO PRIORITIES, WHAT OTHER PRIORITIES HAVE WE MANDATED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE I'VE I'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITIES BEING A REGULAR THING THAT WE THAT WE SET.

SO I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SPECIFIC PRIORITIES, NOT ONE.

IN A SIMILAR VEIN TO THIS, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THERE'S INITIATIVES AND SUPPLEMENTAL AND NEW NEW PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT NOTHING QUITE LIKE THIS.

ANY ANYBODY. STAFF MEMBER AWARE OF ONE.

NOT ONE. OKAY.

GOT IT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT RIGHT THEN.

I ASK THE QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO BUDGET, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS, JUST TO PUT IT IN FRAME.

THIS IS A THREAT TO DEFUND THE POLICE IF THEY DON'T DO WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO.

AND SO I CANNOT BE COMPLICIT IN THAT.

AND THEN ALSO, I'M GOING TO PICK UP AND SAY THIS.

THIS IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WANTS, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE IT.

IT WAS CHANGED BEFORE IT CAME, BEFORE THE TIMING WAS CHANGED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM TWO WEEKS AGO, IT SAYS TO COME FORWARD IN THREE WEEKS ON THE FLY, IT WAS CHANGED TO TODAY.

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THEN TODAY THERE'S A NEW VERSION OF THIS.

SO WE HAD A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS THINK ABOUT THIS.

NOT ONE SPEAKER HAS SEEN WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON, BUT EVERYONE IS EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS, STAFF, I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON.

I'M GOING TO SAVE MYSELF.

OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. WHEN DO WE GET THIS? WHEN WAS THIS CHANGED? STOP SLEEPING HERE IN CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

YOU HEARD IT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I GOT TO GO TO SLEEP.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING. WHEN DO WE GET THIS? ARE YOU ASKING WHEN THE COUNCIL RECEIVED? YEAH. IT WASN'T JUST TYPED UP WHEN SHE READ IT.

SHE KNEW ABOUT IT. WHEN DO WE GET IT? WHEN DID WHEN DID STAFF RECEIVE THESE CHANGES? SO YESTERDAY. SO WE HAD A WORK SESSION TODAY.

WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION TODAY.

WE COULD HAVE DISSEMINATED THIS TO EVERYONE THAT SPOKE SO THAT THEY COULD SEE IT.

WE DIDN'T. SO THAT.

OKAY. SO THEN MY.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM. NO SPEAKER WAS ABLE TO SPEAK ON THE CURRENT THING AND IT WASN'T BROUGHT FORWARD, TIMELY DURING OUR CLOSED SESSION.

IT WASN'T BROUGHT FORWARD BEFORE THESE PEOPLE SPOKE.

AND WE HAVE A DUTY TO THE PEOPLE.

AND HERE'S THE THING.

LET ME LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.

EVERYONE ELSE TALKED ABOUT CAMPAIGN STUFF.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO CAMPAIGN STUFF, BUT I'M GOING TO LET'S BE VERY CLEAR, I'VE BEEN ON THE BALLOT FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF BECAUSE WE'RE IN A STORM, URI, THE PANDEMIC AND NOW AND I'VE WON.

SO I'M NOT I'M SUPREMELY COMFORTABLE THAT I HAVE A PULSE OF THE CITY OF DENTON.

AND SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE IN REPRESENTING THEM AND I'M VERY COMFORTABLE IN HEARING THEM AND VOTING THE INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, NO ONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS COUNCIL ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE YOU'VE NOT SEEN IT.

AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM TO ME.

THEN I'LL JUST TAKE IT.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

I'M NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE POLICE FUNDING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEVER MADE A PRIORITY LIKE THIS BEFORE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO START TODAY.

MY PREFERENCE THEN HERE'S YOU CAN GO FIND THIS.

IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.

THIS IS THE APPLICATION TO TO PLACE ON THE BALLOT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

EVERY CANDIDATE FILLS THIS OUT.

YOU HAVE TO YOU CAN'T SIT HERE IF YOU DON'T FEEL THIS OUT.

THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION READS.

THANK YOU. SO THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION READS I AND CANDIDATE COUNTY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS.

I FURTHER SWEAR THAT THE FOREGOING STATEMENT, INCLUDING MY APPLICATION, ARE IN ALL THINGS TRUE AND CORRECT.

SO YOU CAN'T RUN IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO UPHOLD THOSE LAWS.

SECOND PAGE IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE APPLICATION, PLEASE CONTACT THE SECRETARY OF STATE ELECTIONS DIVISION AT AND IT PROVIDES THE NUMBER.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOUR WHAT YOU'RE ALL WHAT YOU'RE SWEARING TO DO AND YOU'RE TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE, THEN YOU CAN CALL AND CLARIFY THAT.

AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE VOTES THERE AT THE BOTTOM.

THAT'S THE SECOND PAGE. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE YOU CAN'T EVEN GET ON THE BALLOT WITHOUT FILLING THAT OUT.

SO EVERYONE HERE FILL THAT OUT, SAID THEY'RE GOING TO UPHOLD THE LAWS, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE NOT AS IMPORTANT.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DE PRIORITIZING AND IGNORING LAWS, REMEMBER THAT SWINGS BOTH WAYS.

SO IT SWINGS IN FAVOR TODAY.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES IN THE FUTURE.

THEN, OATH OF OFFICE.

EVERYONE TAKES THIS OATH OF OFFICE.

YOU STAND RIGHT THERE. EVERYONE HERE IS RECORDED THEIR APPLICATIONS ON FILE, OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.

YOU CAN GET EVERY PERSON HERE NAME AND THEIR APPLICATION THAT'S ON FILE OATH OF OFFICE.

YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ALL SWORN IN SAME DAY STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU HERE AND WE ALL REPEAT IT THE SAME.

AND IT SAYS OATH OF OFFICE DUTIES TO THE OFFICE OF.

AND THEN YOU GIVE YOUR OFFICE AND THEN IT SAYS AND WILL PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THIS STATE.

SO HELP ME GOD.

AND YOU HAVE TO SIGN THAT SO THAT EVERY EVERY PERSON SITTING HERE HAS TAKEN THAT OATH OF OFFICE.

THEN THE NEXT THING IS THIS CITY OF DENTON, OATH OF OFFICE.

THEN YOU SAY YOUR NAME.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE DUTIES OF THE THE OFFICE OF BLANK CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AND WILL PRESERVE, PROTECT, DEFEND THE CITY CHARTER CODE OF ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS OF THIS CITY.

SO EVERYONE EVERYONE HERE HAS STOOD IN FRONT OF THIS DAIS AND SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

BUT NOW I GUESS THEY SHOULD ADD A KIND OF AN ADDENDUM IN THERE THAT SAYS, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO VIOLATE MY OATH OF OFFICE AND I'M NOT GOING TO SET PRECEDENT FOR A A MANDATE OR PRIORITY THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.

WE'RE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY.

NO ONE'S READ THIS.

WE'VE NEVER SET THIS PRIORITY BEFORE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO DEFUND THE POLICE HERE IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO EXPAND THE FUNDING FOR THE POLICE AND NOT HAVE STRINGS ATTACHED TO IT, BECAUSE THAT'S I'LL TELL YOU A STORY.

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THERE'S I, I WAS AT ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND I WAS SPEAKING TO THE KIDS AND THEY SAID, HEY, HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO BRIBE ANYONE AS MAYOR? I WAS LIKE, YES, BUT WE CALL IT NEGOTIATIONS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE POLICE ON THIS.

I'M GOING TO TELL THEM, HEY, YOU DO YOUR JOB, YOU KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

YOU HAVE MY COMPLETE FAITH, YOU HAVE MY COMPLETE SUPPORT.

AND I'M GOING TO CONSTANTLY OBEY THE LAWS AND AND GO FROM THERE.

SO THAT'S THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE GOING TO VOTE.

SO MAGUIRE YOU.

WELL, YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN.

SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST STATE TWO FACTS.

WELL, IF YOU IN FACT IF ONE FACT THE RESOLUTION WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA, I HAVE THE FLOOR AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU SPOKE.

I DID NOT I DID NOT CUT YOU OFF AT ALL.

YOU HAD COMPLETE AUTONOMY TO SAY EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED TO SAY, AND EVERYONE WENT AROUND AND SPOKE.

IT IS TIME TO VOTE.

AND SO I'M AND I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

OF ORDER IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT SAY THAT I CAN'T SPEAK MORE THAN ONCE.

WELL, THERE IS. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

BUT CHAIR'S DISCRETION.

AND SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO VOTE, LET'S VOTE.

SO YOU WOULD YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

I BE ALLOWED TO TO SPEAK.

IS THERE A SECOND CIRCUIT COUNCIL MEMBER? COUNCIL MEMBER MAGUIRE. HOW SAY YOU? I COUNCILMAN BYRD.

I. COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE I.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S.

COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

HI, COUNCILMAN BECK.

I. MAYOR HUDSPETH IS A NO.

THEN WE'LL OPEN IT BACK UP FOR A SECOND ROUND OF COMMENTS.

COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

SEE HOW. SEE HOW THAT WORKS.

IT ALL WORKS OUT.

YES, IT DOES. THANK YOU, MAYOR HUDSPETH.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH THAT THE RESOLUTION WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET, WHICH WAS POSTED ON FRIDAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THE AMENDMENTS WHICH I PROPOSED WERE SUPERFICIAL IN NATURE, AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THIS RESOLUTION RELATED TO DEFUNDING THE POLICE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH DEFUNDING THE POLICE IS INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENTING IT FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOMENT TO READ IT.

AND A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, RYAN, IF YOU COULD COME UP, PLEASE, WHILE I'M READING.

SO WAS THIS VERSION POSTED ANYWHERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT VERSION IN YOUR HAND, IF THAT IS THE VERSION THAT WAS HANDED OUT EARLIER TODAY BY THE CITY ATTORNEY? THAT IS A MODIFIED VERSION FROM WHAT WAS POSTED ON FRIDAY WITH THE PACKET.

SO NO SPEAKER DID WE DISSEMINATE ANYONE AS THEY WALKED IN THAT VERSION? YOUR HAND HAS NOT BEEN DISSEMINATED OUTSIDE OF THE COUNCIL AND STAFF MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. BEAR WITH ME.

SO I CAN JUST. I CAN EXPEDITE THAT.

HERE WE GO. THIS IS MY.

MY QUESTION TO CITY STAFF EARLIER TODAY AND THIS IS IN THE RESPONSES FROM YOU CAN DO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS AND FIND THE EMAIL OR I'M HAPPY TO SEND IT TO YOU IF YOU REACH OUT TO ME.

BUT THE QUESTION IS ON THIS ITEM.

ITEM, IF MY MY QUESTION WAS TO STAFF, CAN CITY STAFF AFFECT THE BUDGET ITEM OF A OF THE POLICE? CAN WE LOWER CAN WE SAY PARTICULARLY DON'T SPEND MONEY, DON'T SPEND TIME ON THIS? AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.

WE AFFECT THE OVERALL BUDGET OF THE FUND LEVEL IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED.

SO WE WE AFFECT THE TOTAL FUND LEVEL AND THAT IS IT.

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SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT PUNITIVE, THEN YOU, YOU, YOU LOWER THE ENTIRE FUND LEVEL.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, HOW TO INTERPRET THAT.

MAYBE I JUST AM NOT THAT SOPHISTICATED, BUT THAT'S MY READ OF IT.

AND I WILL READ THIS.

AND I MEAN, IT'LL BE A DONE DEAL HERE IN A BIT, SO IT'S MOOT.

BUT I'LL REGISTER MY CONCERNS AND I'LL HAVE THEM NOTED FOR THE.

IF THE IF THE.

OF A LAWSUIT FILED, AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT AS IT COMES.

ANYONE ELSE? ST COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO YOUR CLAIM OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO I WOULD ASSUME, AS MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW, YOU ARE AMONG THE MOST ENGAGED RESIDENTS IN THE CITY.

IT IS ILLEGAL TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF A POLICE BUDGET.

SO THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED THIS LAW AND THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT VIOLATE STATE LAW.

I HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT IN MY COMMENTS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT MAKES MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FEEL EMPOWERED AND SAFE BUT DOES NOT VIOLATE LAW.

THIS DOES NOT DEFUND POLICE, BUT JUST TO THE WIDER IMPLICATION OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE.

NONE OF US WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

IT IS DUE TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WE ARE SAFE HERE TONIGHT.

WHILE WE WERE IN HERE, IT GOT A LITTLE ROWDY OUT THERE.

THE POLICE HAD TO INTERVENE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

I AM SO THANKFUL FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN HERE ON YOUR WAY OUT, SHAKE ONE OF THEIR HAND AND TELL THEM THANK YOU.

THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH.

THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH. THANKS FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY DO TO KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE.

AND THE LAST THING I'LL ADD IS I'VE BEEN BLACK A LONG TIME AND IT IS NOT TRUE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

IN FACT, STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, BLACK FOLKS IN AMERICA CALL THE COPS 2.1 TIMES MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS NOTION THAT FOLKS WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

WE WANT AMAZING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO ARE FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT IS THE REALITY AND DENTON AS WELL AS I WOULD IMAGINE THE REALITY IN OTHER PLACES AS WELL.

AND SO WHEN YOU ALL GET A COPY OF THIS, GO TO SECTION TWO AND JUST FAST FORWARD TO THE END OF THE SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS CITY FUNDS WILL NOT BE USED TO HOW DO YOU TAKE AWAY CITY FUNDS? YOU CAN ONLY AFFECT THE TOP LINE UNTIL YOU TAKE AWAY THE TOP LINE TO LOWER IT SO THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE FUNDS TO DO THIS.

SO, QUOTE, CITY FUNDS WILL NOT BE USED TO.

SECTION TWO. I KNOW YOU HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT.

MY APOLOGIES. BUT WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE IT, YOU'LL GO TO SECTION TWO.

CITY FUNDS WILL NOT BE USED TO, AND THEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BY WHICH THAT'S LOWERED IS THE TOP LINE NUMBER, BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFECT THE LINE ITEMS. SO PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER.

DON'T DON'T GET MISLED BY THE GRAY AREAS.

COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE, HOW DO YOU VOTE? I. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MCGEE I.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S A NAME? COUNCILMAN. BYRD I.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS NAME.

MAYOR PRO TEM. AND MAYOR HUDSPETH IS A NO PASSES FOR THREE.

ITEM G WHICH IS ID 221227.

[G. Consider adoption of an ordinance ordering a recall election to be held on November 8, 2022 for the purpose of determining whether City Council Member Alison Maguire shall be removed from District 4 of the City Council by recall; prescribing the time, manner, and conduct of the election in accordance with an Election Agreement and Contract for election services with the Election Administrator of Denton County; and providing an effective date.]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE ORDERING A RECALL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER EIGHT, 2022.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING WHETHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ALISON MAGUIRE SHALL BE REMOVED FROM DISTRICT FOUR OF THE CITY COUNCIL BY RECALL PROSCRIBING THE TIME, MANNER AND CONDUCT OF ELECTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ELECTION AGREEMENT AND CONDUCT FOR ELECTION SERVICES WITH THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR OF DENTON COUNTY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ROSARIO AND I AM YOUR CITY SECRETARY AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE ITEM.

LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.

THANK YOU. SO TO PROVIDE A FEW DETAILS ABOUT THE PETITION SUBMISSION ON MAY 12, A REPRESENTATIVE OF A COMMITTEE OF ELECTORS HAND-DELIVERED THE PETITION TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

UNDER THE NOTICE SECTION OF THE CITY CHARTER, THE CITY SECRETARY IS REQUIRED UNDER CERTAIN PROVISIONS TO REVIEW THE PETITION ITS AN ENTIRETY AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS

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THE SUFFICIENCY REQUIREMENTS AGAIN OUTLINED IN THE CITY CHARTER.

THE PETITION WAS REVIEWED AND DETERMINED TO BE SUFFICIENT ON MAY 19.

AND OF COURSE, THAT WAS WITHIN THE SEVEN DAY DEADLINE VERIFICATION PERIOD THAT REQUIRED UNDER THE CITY CHARTER.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS AFFORDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESIGN.

OTHERWISE THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ORDER A RECALL ELECTION.

THAT DEADLINE WAS MAY 26 AND NO RESIGNATION WAS RECEIVED.

THE PETITION FOR SUFFICIENCY WAS CERTIFIED TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE SEVEN, AGAIN UNDER THE DEADLINE MANDATED BY THE CITY CHARTER.

SO THE NEXT STEP IS THAT CITY COUNCIL, UNDER PROVISIONS OF THE CITY CHARTER, IS REQUIRED TO ORDER A RECALL ELECTION.

THE CHARTER STIPULATES THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE NOT LESS THAN 30 OR MORE THAN 60 DAYS AFTER THE PETITION PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

UNDER THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE, 41.00 FOR THE FIRST AUTHORIZED UNIFORM ELECTION DATE AFTER THAT PERIOD IS NOVEMBER EIGHT, 2022.

SO TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE THE ELECTION IF ORDERED IS THE PROPOSITION WOULD BE TO RECALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICT FOUR ALISON MAGUIRE.

THE ELECTION WOULD BE ADMINISTRATED UNDER A CONTRACT WITH DENTON COUNTY, WHICH WOULD BE PROVIDED TO YOU AT A FUTURE DATE AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN ORDERING AN ELECTION.

THERE IS NO COST INVOLVED, ALTHOUGH THE CONTRACT WOULD INVOLVE A COST AND THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED AT THAT TIME.

THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD WOULD BE MONDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, THROUGH FRIDAY, NOVEMBER FOUR.

THE STATE MANDATED CANVASS PERIOD IS BETWEEN NOVEMBER 11TH THROUGH THE 22ND, AND IF CANVASED AT THE TIME OF CANVASS RIGHT NOW WOULD BE TENTATIVELY.

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15.

THE REGULAR MEETING AGAIN IF THE ELECTION IS ORDERED.

SO THERE ARE EARLY VOTING DATES AND TIMES AND DATES.

ALL OF THESE ARE TENTATIVE.

YOU CAN SEE HERE AGAIN, THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD THAT I HAD KIND OF INDICATED THAT WE GOT FROM THE DENTON COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE, YOU SEE LISTED HERE THE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS.

THESE WERE PULLED FROM THE LOCATIONS CHOSEN BY CITY COUNCIL FOR OUR MAY GENERAL ELECTION.

ALTHOUGH DENTON COUNTY ELECTION ADMINISTRATION WILL BE USED FOR THE MAIN EARLY VOTING LOCATION AND DENTON COUNTY HAS INDICATED THAT THEY MAY DECIDE TO USE TEXAS WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY RATHER THAN WORTMAN'S BOOKSTORE.

BECAUSE WE PIGGYBACK ON THE NOVEMBER EIGHT ELECTION, WHICH IS MORE A STATE LEVEL ELECTION, UNIFORM ELECTION, WE ARE REQUIRED TO USE THE POLLING LOCATIONS THAT THEY DETERMINE.

HOWEVER, THE COUNTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TOWARD RECEIVING INPUT FROM THE PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS AND SO WE PROVIDE THE LOCATIONS TO THEM AT PRELIMINARY REVIEW. THEY FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THESE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS.

WE, OF COURSE, ALSO VERIFIED WITH STAFF AND THE LOCATIONS ARE FULLY AVAILABLE FOR ELECTION DAY.

THE VOTING PERIOD WOULD BE, OF COURSE, NOVEMBER EIGHT FROM 7 A.M.

TO 7:00 PM.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE DISTRICT FOUR LOCATIONS AS IT WOULD BE A DISTRICT SPECIFIC ELECTION.

AND OF COURSE WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN THE SURROUNDING PROXIMITY OF THE DENTON CITY LIMITS CLOSE TO DISTRICT FOUR, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS AND IF THEY GARNER A HIGHER REGISTERED LEVEL IN THE PRECINCTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED BY THE COUNTY, THEN THOSE LOCATIONS ARE THE PRIMARY LOCATION THAT BASICALLY HAPPENS EVERY ELECTION CYCLE.

AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OC QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

OH. AND CAN YOU PUT. YEAH. THANK YOU.

SEE YOU. NONE. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK MS..

RIOS AND THE REST OF THE STAFF WHO HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.

THE PETITIONERS IN THIS RECALL HAVEN'T ACCUSED ME OF MALFEASANCE, UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR OR DOING ANYTHING THAT HAS CAUSED HARM TO THE COMMUNITY AT ALL.

THE BASIS FOR THIS RECALL IS DISAGREEMENT OVER POLITICS, DISAGREEMENT WHICH OCCURRED LONG BEFORE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING TONIGHT.

AND UNDER THE CURRENT RECALL PROVISION IN THE CITY CHARTER, THAT IS A GOOD ENOUGH REASON, I THINK, THAT MOST OF US ON THIS DAIS WOULD PROBABLY AGREE THAT THIS RECALL PETITION ISN'T IN LINE WITH WHAT COMMUNITY LEADERS INTENDED WHEN THEY AMENDED THE CITY CHARTER IN 1979.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE 1979 CHARTER AMENDMENT RELATED TO RECALLS IS BRIEF AND VAGUE AND REASONABLE.

PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT HOW IT SHOULD BE INTERPRETED IN THIS CASE.

THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THIS PETITION IS SUFFICIENT WILL BE WORKED OUT IN A COURT, AND THE CONVERSATION ABOUT AMENDING THE CITY CHARTER IS ONE FOR ANOTHER DAY.

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SO THE ONLY OPTION FOR US TONIGHT IS TO VOTE TO ORDER THE RECALL ELECTION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF A JUDGE RULES THE PETITION INSUFFICIENT, THIS VOTE WILL BE NULLIFIED. WITH THAT IN MIND, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE.

OKAY. AND BEFORE I TAKE THAT, I WASN'T SURE THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE SO.

ADRIAN, HAS ORTEGA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? SO I WANT TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

YOU HAVE IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.

ADRIANA ORTEGA. MY ADDRESS IS WRITTEN ON THE CARD.

I WAS PROUD TO VOTE FOR ALISON IN THE LAST ELECTION AND I'M SADDENED TO HEAR THAT THERE WAS A RECALL FOR HER POSITION, AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE REDISTRICTING, WHICH SHE SUPPORTED AND DID WITH A GOOD HEART AND THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I WAS GLAD TO VOTE FOR HER AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALL VOTED AGAINST THE ITEM. THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? COUNCILMAN DAVIS. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION AND I'D LIKE TO SAY A BRIEF WORD WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.

YEAH. WE HAVE A MOTION BY OUR COUNCIL.

MAGUIRE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

SO DISCUSSION.

GO RIGHT AHEAD. I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER MCGUIRE FOR SUCCINCTLY SUMMARIZING THE COUNCIL'S THE POSITION THAT WE ARE PUT IN BY THE CHARTER.

THE CHARTER IS NOT DRAFTED WITH THE OPTION FOR US TO WEIGH IN ON THE SUFFICIENCY OF THE RECALL PETITION, WHETHER THE RECALL OUGHT TO BE HAD OR NOT.

AS SHE SAID, THERE'S A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE SETTLED IN COURT.

BUT THE PATH BEFORE US IS VERY CLEAR IN THE CITY CHARTER.

NO MEMBER BY THEIR VOTE TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE SAYING WHETHER THEY THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MAGUIRE OUGHT TO BE RECALLED OR OUGHT NOT TO BE RECALLED.

WE'RE SIMPLY DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

UNDER THE CHARTER, IT'S REQUIRED TO DO.

WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR JOB.

IF WE DIDN'T DO OUR JOB, WE'D BE IN TROUBLE AND BE ORDERED BY A JUDGE TO DO IT ANYWAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR JOB.

OK. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

DEB ARMITAGE IS REQUESTED TO SPEAK.

IF YOU CAN COME, I CAN GIVE YOU A NAME AND ADDRESS.

I HAVE 3 MINUTES. THANK YOU.

YES. I HAD FILLED OUT A CARD TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM QUITE A WHILE AGO, BUT UNDERSTANDABLY, IT GOT MIXED IN WITH THE THE CARDS ON THE LAST ITEM, WHICH I ALSO SPOKE ON.

SO I WAS HOPING THAT YOU ALL WOULD VOTE NO TO THIS.

I WANT TO THANK ALISON MAGUIRE, MY SISTER, FOR YOUR YOUR WORK ON THIS COUNCIL AND ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF DENTON.

I LOVE YOU. I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR YOU.

AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THIS WILL GET WORKED OUT IN THE COURTS.

I'M NOT A LAWYER, AS PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT.

I'M AN ENGLISH PROFESSOR.

RIGHT. BUT I'VE I'VE GOT A LAWYER AND I LISTEN TO HIM SOMETIMES.

I LISTEN TO A LOT OF LAWYERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS A PRETTY CLEAR CASE OF A PETITION THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN VALIDATED, SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.

AND THE REASON WHY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REASONS FOR RECALL, BUT BECAUSE ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER MAGUIRE AT THE TIME IN WHICH AT WHICH SHE WAS ELECTED, HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECALL HER.

THAT'S JUST IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE IN TERMS OF IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT DEMOCRACY IS.

THERE'S ALSO THE FACT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CONFUSION IS UNDERSTANDABLE.

BUT WHEN THERE IS A REDISTRICTING, YOU ARE STILL REPRESENTED BY THE PERSON WHO REPRESENTED YOU UP UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION.

AND SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY HERE TO LOOK UP YOUR IF YOU'RE STATE REPRESENTATIVE, IF YOU THINK YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE HAS CHANGED, PUT YOUR ADDRESS INTO THE FORM THAT SAYS, WHO'S MY STATE REP? YOU WILL FIND IT'S ACTUALLY THE SAME DUDE.

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IT'S THE SAME GUY.

THAT HAS NOT CHANGED YET.

SO, AGAIN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS, BUT I DO LISTEN TO LAWYERS.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

IT'LL GET WORKED OUT IN THE COURTS.

AND I'M SAD THAT IT'S THAT IT'S COME TO THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THIS CITY.

IT'S IT'S SAD THAT IT'S COME TO THIS.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILOR MAGUIRE, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? DISCUSSION. SEEING OTHER IN THE ROOM.

YEAH, I GOT I. I UNDERSTAND.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. OH, GOT IT.

COUNCILMAN. MCGEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I, TOO, WANT TO ECHO THE WORDS OF MR. DAVIS AND FORMER COUNCILWOMAN AHMED TOURE.

WHEN I SAY THAT I AM SO PROUD OF YOU, COUNCILWOMAN IT'S STRAIGHT UP TRUTH.

IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TONIGHT AND YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED THROUGHOUT YOUR TIME ON CITY COUNCIL.

AGAIN, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT HITS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE SEATS.

AND I CONTINUE TO CONTEND TO PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE ARE EASY, THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BE READY FOR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE THESE DECISIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HARD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO WEIGH, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CALLED UPON TO DO AFTER BEING ELECTED.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I AM SO IMMENSELY PROUD OF YOU, TO SUPPORT YOU.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, MR. DAVIS IS RIGHT. OUR HANDS ARE TIED AND THE CHARTER IS CLEAR.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS LEGALLY IN COURT.

THANKFUL THAT MS..

MCGUIRE HAS GOT GOT A LAWYER AND SHE'S DOING HER THING.

SO TONIGHT, UNFORTUNATELY, WE MUST DO OURS.

LIKE MR. MAYOR. ANYONE? ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM? SAM NUNN, MAYOR.

PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M GOING TO ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS WE HEARD.

IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO KEEP VOTING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AGAINST YOUR SELF-INTEREST IN ORDER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE PEOPLE OF DENTON.

WE'VE SEEN THAT SO MANY TIMES, AND I REALLY THINK THAT DENTON WILL LOOK BACK ON COUNCILOR MAGUIRE, WHETHER SHE CONTINUES TO SERVE, PASS NOVEMBER OR NOT.

I AS AS A PROUDER MOMENT IN OUR CITY.

AND I MEAN THAT HONESTLY.

AND I WILL SAY THAT I STILL THINK THAT THERE IS SOME AMBIGUITY IN THE LEVEL OF MINISTERIAL REQUIREMENT FOR THIS.

BUT I THINK PROBABLY NOW IS NOT THE TIME AND WE ARE NOT THE CITY TO RESOLVE THAT AMBIGUITY.

SO I THINK SOME OF YOU MAY BE SENSING A PATTERN, BUT I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO FALL FORWARD EVEN THOUGH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL MCGEE THAT THIS IS.

CRAZY. HONESTLY, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT IT IS CRAZY.

THERE'S NO RATIONALE FOR THIS, BUT OUR HANDS ARE SOMEWHAT TIED EVEN WITH THE AMBIGUITY I MENTIONED EARLIER.

SO I WILL LIKELY BE GOING WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL TO TO TO MOVE THIS AHEAD.

AND I HOPE THAT WE DO GET THE KIND OF RESOLUTION IN THE COURTS THAT BEST SUPPORT DENTON.

ANYONE ELSE. COUNCILMAN BURTON AND COUNCILMAN WHAT'S.

I'M SORRY. I STARTED SNACKING BECAUSE I KIND OF GOT HUNGRY AGAIN.

IT'S. WHAT DO YOU WANT? NOTHING. I JUST.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE GOT A LOT OF KUMBAYA GOING ON UP HERE.

BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY TO THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT FOUR, ALISON MAGUIRE IS ROCK STAR.

SHE'S SO SMART.

SHE'S SO ELEGANT IN HER DEPORTMENT AND HER DICTION AND, YOU KNOW, HER ARTICULATION.

I'M JUST I'M A FAN OF ALISON MAGUIRE.

I KNOW I DON'T TELL YOU THAT OFTEN, BUT I DO ADMIRE YOUR STRENGTH AND YOUR YOUR POWER, YOUR SUPER GIRL POWER YOU HAVE THERE.

YOU ARE SO STRONG TO BE ABLE TO EVEN PUT THIS FORTH LIKE THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, LIFE GOES ON.

IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS.

AND THE WAY THAT WE VOTE FOR THIS, WE JUST HAVE TO LET THIS RUN THROUGH.

BUT I THOUGHT I'D JUST KIND OF SQUEEZE IN MY LITTLE, LITTLE LOVEBUG MOMENT THERE FOR YOU.

SO THERE WE ARE.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S. THANK YOU.

YEAH. COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE, THANK YOU FOR DOING A SOLID.

I THINK NONE OF US WANT TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION, BUT I DO TRUST THE PROCESS.

AND THE PROCESS WAS YOU HAD A DISAGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON AND YOU DID WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO AND YOU FILED A PETITION.

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AND AND THE PROCESS IS GOING TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH.

AND WE'RE EITHER RIGHT OR WE'RE WRONG.

AND THE GOOD THING IS WE'LL GET RESOLUTION ON IT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I REALLY DO. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE SAY NONE? KATHERINE MAGUIRE HARD. SAY YOU.

I COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

I COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

I COUNCILMAN WHAT I COUNCILMAN BYRD.

I COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

DOUBLE. DOUBLE. I ALREADY CALL ME.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET BACK TO THE SCREENS.

MAN, I WAS SPOILED BY USING THE TECHNOLOGY MAYOR PRO TEM.

AN UNFORTUNATE I OK MAYOR HUDSPETH I PASS A70 THAT TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS.

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ANY CONCLUDING ITEMS QUICKLY.

CASPAR DAVIS. YEAH.

JUST BASED ON THE SUBJECT MATTER TONIGHT, I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO PUBLICLY SAY HOW DISAPPOINTED DISAPPOINTED I WAS AT THE VANDALISM, AT SOME COUNSELING CENTERS HERE IN THE CITY OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO.

THEY'VE ALSO RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL THREATS THAT IT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN OR WORSE COULD HAPPEN.

THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO THAT WE DID TONIGHT.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

WE WORK IT OUT.

WE TALK ABOUT IT.

THE PROCESS WORKS, TO BORROW A PHRASE.

WE DON'T DO VIOLENCE.

WE DON'T DO VANDALISM.

AND I I'M SEVERELY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT THAT HAPPENED HERE IN OUR CITY.

ANYONE ELSE. COUNCILMAN BURT, WE KNOW WE HAVE JULY 4TH WEEKEND COMING UP.

YOU GUYS BE SAFE.

STAY COOL, OKAY? THANK YOU, KATHERINE MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AS MS..

BIRD SAID, GOT A LOT OF EVENTS COMING UP 4TH OF JULY.

I INVITE FOLKS TO COME OUT, PARTICIPATE IN THE WALK, RUN, CHECK OUT THE PARADE, COME TO THE CIVIC CENTER.

OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT THE WE'VE GOT THE FIREWORKS GOING AS WELL.

SO BE A FESTIVE HOLIDAY FOR US ALL.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO INVITE EVERYONE TO CONSIDER CONSIDERING CONSIDER DOING SOME NONPROFIT LEADERSHIP.

SO EVERYBODY CHECK OUT UNITED WAY.

THEY HAVE A LEADERSHIP A BOARD LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO HELP FOLKS LEARN TO SERVE IN A NONPROFIT BOARD CAPACITY. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE WE PARTNER WITH OUR AMAZING NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN BECAUSE THEY DO SUCH AMAZING WORK.

SO I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO ISN'T A FAN OF THE WORK OF OF UNITED WAY.

SO THANKFUL FOR GARY AND OLIVER AND HIS ENTIRE TEAM.

SO MAKE SURE YOU GO TO A UNITED WAY OF UNITED WAY DENTON DOT ORG SLASH BOARDS DASH LEADERSHIP DESK INSTITUTE FOR MORE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? WHO? WHO IS THAT? YOUR HAND UP OR NO? YES. MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SORRY ABOUT THE CONFUSION.

MY FINGERS ARE TIRED OF HOLDING MY HAND UP DURING ALL THE CONVERSATION.

I HADN'T INTENDED TO, BUT I REALLY LIKE COUNCILOR DAVIS'S WORDS.

AND I WANT TO COSIGN ON THOSE.

COUNCILOR DAVIS AND I MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE ON THINGS, BUT WE AGREE ON THIS.

THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE WAY POLITICAL DISCOURSE IS THE WAY.

AND THAT SAID, MY MY POINT FOR THE MATRIX IS I WANT TO REMIND EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE INDEED HAVING THAT FIREWORK SHOW.

SO CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US IF YOU HAVE ROOM IN YOUR HEART AND IN YOUR FAMILY FOR AN ANIMAL IN THE SHELTER, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US DRAIN THOSE NUMBERS DOWN FOR EVERYONE WATCHING? AND I HOPE THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE STILL WATCHING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MIDNIGHT.

HELP US GET THOSE SHELTERS CLEARED SO THAT THE FIREWORKS CAN BE ENJOYED BY THE PEOPLE AND NOT FREAK THE ANIMALS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

AT 1146 WILL CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S MEETING.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.