Jul 21, 2022 Committee on Persons with Disabilities on 2022-07-21 3:00 PM

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GOOD MORNING. GREAT.

[A. Consider approval of the minutes for May 19, 2022.]

IF THERE ARE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES, WE CAN MAKE THOSE HERE.

THERE'S A MOTION TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT.

OTHERWISE, MR. CHAIR, YOU'RE ABLE TO JUST CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE ACCEPT THE WE'RE GOING ON THAT VOTE. SO ALL IN FAVOR ON THE.

ARE THERE ANY OPPONENTS? AND THEN

[B. Proclamation: Disability Justice Day]

THEN REALLY OVER THE FIRST ONE? YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU, JOE.

YOU. YOU GET ON BONNIE BRAE STREET ALMOST AS LONG AS I HAVE.

IT'S GOOD WE GO WAY BACK.

IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THE BLUE FENCE UP AROUND WHERE THE OLD HOUSE USED TO BE AND THEN THE BUSIEST CORNER IN TOWN NOW.

BUT GOOD TO SEE YOU.

SO. SO IF EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME OKAY, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND TAKE TIME TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOU DO.

IT REALLY HELPS ADD PERSPECTIVE AND GUIDE DIRECTIONS DECISIONS WHEN WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE NEW BOND PACKAGES COMING UP, WE'RE GOING TO DO HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK ON THE STREETS.

AND SO IT'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THE SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE AND INSIGHT YOU HAVE AROUND TOWN FROM A MOBILITY STANDPOINT, FROM WHAT YOU STANDPOINT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HONORED TO BE HERE. SO WITH THAT, I HAVE A PROCLAMATION, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENT SHOW COME GREETINGS.

WHEREAS, JULY 26, 2022 IS THE 32ND ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT, WHICH MARKS THE BEGINNING OF THE MODERN DISABILITY JUSTICE AND INCLUSION MOVEMENT.

AND. WHEREAS, WE RECOGNIZE THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF DISABILITY JUSTICE ADVOCATES AND ALLIES WHO HAVE PURSUED EQUAL ACCESS FOR ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR ABILITY STATUS IN TEXAS AND ABROAD.

AND. WHEREAS, ON JULY 26, 1990, THE ADA WAS SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PROCLAIMING THIS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES IN ALL AREAS OF PUBLIC LIFE, INCLUDING EMPLOYMENT, TRANSPORTATION, EDUCATION, AND ALL PLACES OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

AND. WHEREAS, MEMBERS OF THE DENTON COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE DISABILITY COMMITTEE ON PERSONS, PARMI DENTON COMMITTEE ON PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, CONTINUALLY CHAMPIONED THE CAUSE FOR DISABILITY AWARENESS, INCLUSION AND END AND AN END TO DISCRIMINATION AND STIGMA. NOW, THEREFORE, I DRAW AN HUDSPETH MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 26TH OF JULY 2022 AS DENTON DISABILITY JUSTICE DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE 32ND ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND THE WORK STILL TO BE DONE TO ENSURE THE RIGHTS OF THOSE WITH DISABILITIES.

GIVE YOURSELVES A HAND. THANK YOU.

CAN I DO THAT? CAN I GET A PICTURE OF YOUR SHOW? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

I LIKE TO JUST.

YOU WANT TO HOLD UP THE PROCLAMATION? [INAUDIBLE] THAT NEWFOUNDLAND LETTER CAME OUT JUST FOR THIS.

ONE, TWO, THREE.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MARY.

YES, THANK YOU. YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

APPRECIATE IT. AND IF I CAN ADD, IF ANYONE WANTS A COPY OF THAT FOR ANY REASON, SINCE WE DO HAVE THAT ANNIVERSARY COMING UP, I CAN GET YOU A COPY OF IT. AND WE'LL ALSO BE, AS WE DID IN PREVIOUS YEARS, MAKING MENTIONED ABOUT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS FOR THE CITY TO COPY THAT.

THAT'S TRUE. I.

[C. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding design of crosswalks and pedestrian infrastructure to support orientation & mobility of low-vision road users.]

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AND FOR THIS TIME, YOU HAVE NATHAN GEORGE VISITING AGAIN.

SO LET ME PULL UP THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. AND I HAD NATHAN SIT HERE, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE NEED TO MOVE HIM BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S NECK START TO HURT OVER THE MOVE.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY COMMISSIONER AUSTIN OR COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEMBER AUSTIN.

COMMISSIONER. SO WE'RE HERE TO REPORT BACK ON THE RESULTS OF REVIEW OF A REVIEW, AND I'LL WALK IT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. THIS IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON LOW VISION USERS.

THEY USE THAT TERMINOLOGY FOR EFFECTIVELY FOR ANYBODY WHO EXPERIENCES BLINDNESS.

SO AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE REVIEWED SEVERAL PUBLICATIONS THAT WERE RELATED TO ORIENTATION OF MOBILITY, OF LOW VISION USERS ENTERING AND CROSSING IN CROSSWALKS.

THIS RELATES TO LIKE DIAGONAL OR SKEWED INTERSECTION CROSSINGS THAT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY APPROPRIATE CUES BECAUSE OF ANGLES AND THE CROSSWALKS OR ANGLES AND THE RAMPS THAT LEAD TO THE CROSSWALKS.

SO THESE TWO REPORTS WERE PRODUCED BY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE ACCESS BOARD AND SOME RESEARCHERS IN 2011.

NOW VISUAL CUES TO ALIGN TO CROSS STREETS AND WALKING BETWEEN THE LINES, NON VISUAL CUES TO MAINTAIN HEADING DURING A STREET CROSSING.

SO WHAT THAT EFFECTIVELY MEANS IS THAT PEDESTRIAN AS THEY GET UP TO A CROSSWALK, THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS OR EXPLORE DIFFERENT DESIGN APPROACHES THAT WE COULD TAKE TO ORIENT A PERSON WHEN THEY ARRIVE AT THE CROSSWALK AND THEN ALSO WHEN THEY ENTER THE CROSSWALK TO MAINTAIN THEIR HEADING.

SO THIS IMAGE COMES OUT OF ONE OF THE REPORTS.

SO THEY BUILT SOME TEMPORARY INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN TESTED WITH USERS KIND OF A USER BEHAVIOR STUDY, HOW FOLKS WOULD NAVIGATE THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE MEASUREMENTS OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE INTENDED ALIGNMENT AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ALIGN AND USE THESE FAKE CROSSINGS IN A PARKING LOT.

JUST THE WAY OF TESTING THESE DIFFERENT APPROACHES.

SO LIKE I SAID, ESTABLISHING A CORRECT HEADING AT THE RAMP WAS THE NATURE OF THE FIRST STUDY AND THEN MAINTAINING ALIGNMENT WHEN THEY ENTERED THE STREET WAS PART OF THE SECOND STUDY OR THE FOCUS OF THE SECOND STUDY.

SO THEY LOOKED AT DIFFERENT APPROACHES, DIFFERENT DESIGN TECHNIQUES THAT WE COULD USE TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS.

SO THE DIFFERENT DESIGN FEATURES THAT THEY TESTED WERE RAISED PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

THEY USE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF RACE PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

THE FIRST WAS WHAT THEY CALL A GUIDE STRIP, A RAISED MARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE CROSSING, MOST LIKELY THE INSIDE OF BOX OF THE CROSSWALK.

BUT I DIDN'T SEE SPECIFICALLY WHERE THEY CALL THAT OUT, BUT THEY REFERRED TO IT AS THE LEFT SIDE.

SO PRESUMABLY THAT WOULD BE THE INTERIOR OF THE INTERSECTION.

AND THEN AN EDGE STRIPE WOULD BE TO PHYSICALLY RAISE BOTH CROSSWALK LINES.

YOU WOULD HAVE AN EDGE STRIPE ON EACH SIDE OF THE CROSSWALK, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE A BIT MORE GUIDANCE.

IF YOU STARTED TO VARY FROM YOU WOULD HAVE DETECTABILITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CROSSWALK.

THEY LOOKED AT BAR TILE TACTILE SURFACES, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL DIRECTIONAL INDICATORS OR PARALLEL BAR TILES.

IT'S BASICALLY LIKE THE DOMES THAT YOU SEE ON THE CROSSWALK, AT THE CROSSWALK, ON THE RAMPS, BUT THEY'RE RAISED ALONG LINE SO YOU CAN GET ALIGNMENT OUT OF IT. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THAT I HAD WITH SALLY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE DOMES PROVIDE ORIENTATION, WHICH IT'S GENERALLY ACCEPTED THAT DOMES THEMSELVES DO NOT, AND THESE BAR TILES ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION WAYFINDING.

MOST OF THE STUDIES ON THOSE COME OUT OF ASIAN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY USE A LOT OF ASIAN COUNTRIES USE THOSE TILES TO GUIDE FOLKS THROUGH TRANSIT.

SO THEY'LL ACTUALLY PROVIDE A CONTINUOUS ROUTE THROUGH TRANSIT.

SO THAT'S BEEN PREDOMINANTLY HOW THEY'VE BEEN USED UP TO THIS POINT.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME APPLICATION DOMESTICALLY, SO THEY USE THOSE AT THE TOP OF A RAMP, EITHER PERPENDICULAR OR PARALLEL TO THE INTENDED CROSSING SO A PEDESTRIAN COULD ORIENT THEMSELF TO THE CROSSING.

THEY FOUND THE PERPENDICULAR WAS BETTER, BUT THEY TESTED BOTH TO SEE WHICH ONE PROVIDE A BETTER ORIENTATION.

ALL WE'LL BE GETTING, WHICH IS NOW REFERRED TO AS APS.

THAT WAS SOMETHING AT THE TIME THESE STUDIES WERE LOOKED AT THAT WAS STILL BEING STUDIED.

IT'S NOT AN ADOPTED STANDARD AS APPS OR ACCESSIBLE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS.

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ALL RIGHT. SO I SAID A LOT THERE.

HOPEFULLY YOU WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL OF THAT.

THERE WERE TWO BROAD FINDINGS OF BROAD TECH WAYS THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FROM REVIEWING THIS TWO STUDIES, AND THESE ARE DIRECT EXCERPTS OUT OF THE TEXT. SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND I'LL READ THEM WORD FOR WORD JUST BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE EASIEST WAY TO COMMUNICATE THIS.

SO AND CONFIGURATION.

SO THE NATURE OF THE FIRST STUDY, EVEN THE BEST ALIGNMENT CUES RESULTED IN AN AVERAGE AREA ERROR OF APPROXIMATELY SIX DEGREES, WHICH MANY, BUT NOT ALL CROSSWALKS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO RESULT IN WALKING OUTSIDE THE CROSSWALK UNLESS ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE CUES WERE AVAILABLE DURING THE CROSSING.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THEY FOUND IS THAT.

EVEN WITH THE BEST RESULTS THEY GOT WITH REDESIGN OF THE RAMP ITSELF, YOU WOULD STILL FIND THAT A PEDESTRIAN WOULD VARY OUTSIDE OF THE CROSSWALK MARKING LINE AS THEY MAKE THE CROSSING. SO MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE INSIDE THE ROAD ITSELF TO MAINTAIN THAT CORRECT ORIENTATION, ESPECIALLY AS CROSSINGS GET LONGER.

THEY LOOKED AT SHORT AND LONG CROSSINGS, SO LONGER CROSSINGS, ESPECIALLY LIKE A CARROLL BOULEVARD, WOULD NEED MUCH MORE ALIGNMENT CUES THAN A SHORTER CROSSING AND A COMPACT INTERSECTION LIKE THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE OR THE CROSSINGS WE HAVE ON OUR NARROW STREETS.

CROSSWALK CONFIGURATION.

SO THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING RESULTS THAT I WAS KIND OF HAPPY TO SEE.

SO THE THREE CONDITIONS THAT RESULTED IN EXCELLENT HEADING PERFORMANCE, THE AVERAGE PARTICIPANT COMPLETED A 70 FOOT, 72 FOOT CROSSING THE LONGER CROSSING AND STUDY WITH THE BEACON AND APPS IN 20.5 SECONDS THE GOD STRIP IN 22.3 SECONDS.

THAT WAS A SINGLE STRIP AND THE STRIKES IN 22.9 SECONDS.

THEY HAD SOME REFERENCES THERE TO MORE FAMILIARITY WITH THE AUDIBLE BECKONING.

AT THE TIME THAT THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED AT STRIKES WERE NOT VERY COMMON, SO THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED.

YOU COULD SEE IMPROVED PERFORMANCE IF THAT BECAME MORE OF A STANDARDIZED APPROACH.

BUT BASICALLY APS WAS PERFORMING THE BEST AT THE TIME THEY DID THIS STUDY IN TERMS OF GETTING FOLKS OUT OF THE STREET.

WE REFER A LOT TO EXPOSURE, SO YOU WANT TO GET FOLKS THROUGH THE CROSSING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO THOSE WERE THE RESULTS THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

POTENTIAL APPLICATIONS.

THIS IS CITY OF DENTON PERSPECTIVES.

WHAT CAN WE TAKE AWAY FROM REVIEWING THIS STUDY? I INCLUDED A HANDFUL, BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE PRIMARY ONES.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE HAVE TO ADOPT ANY OF THESE SORTS OF STANDARDS IS THAT THIS RESEARCH WAS DONE ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE MOST RECENT DESIGN GUIDANCE WAS ADOPTED IN THE EARLY 20 TENS.

SO WE HAVE SINCE GONE THROUGH SOME RULEMAKING PROCESSES AND NEW GUIDANCE HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD AND THESE STANDARDS HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED OR REFERENCED IN ANY OF THOSE DESIGN GUIDES.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN.

THEY'RE ALL COMING UP ON ADOPTION, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ADOPTED.

SO THE VERSUS THE MANUAL OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES LAST UPDATED IN 2013 FOR 2011 AND 2013 STATES AND WE HAVE RULEMAKING THAT STARTED IN 2020.

THIS IS THE GUY THAT STIPULATES HOW WE DESIGN OUR CROSSWALKS.

IT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE DESIGN GUIDANCE TO PUT IN THE RAISED EDGE STRIPES OR ANY SORT OF RAISED FEATURES IN THE ROADWAY.

AND THEY HAVEN'T INCLUDED ANY INDICATION, AT LEAST TO WHAT I CAN TELL, IN REVIEWING THE DRAFT MATERIALS.

ANY OF THAT SORT OF GUIDANCE HADN'T BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE PROPOSED EDITS THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED PRESUMABLY EARLY NEXT YEAR IN THE COMMENTS IS PRESUMABLY GOING TO BE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.

SO THAT DOCUMENT DIDN'T REFER TO IT.

ALSO, THE PROPOSED PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY ACCESS GUIDELINES WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN ADOPTED.

MOST LOCALITIES HAVE ADOPTED THOSE AND ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WHERE THE TEXT ARE ADOPTED AND THEREBY IT APPLIES ON STATE FUNDED PROJECTS.

WE'VE ADOPTED IT AS WELL.

THOSE GUIDELINES WERE PUT FORWARD LAST IN 2013.

TWO YEARS AFTER THESE STUDIES WERE COMPLETED, FOLKS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE STUDIES WERE ALSO INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING PRO AG AND THEY DID NOT INCORPORATE GUIDANCE INTO THAT DOCUMENT. SO THAT'S ONE AREA WE COULD SEE SOME POTENTIAL FOR CHANGES IN THE NEXT.

AS WE REVISIT THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT TO BE A FEDERALLY ADOPTED STANDARD HEARING, IT'S GOING TO BE THIS FALL THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING THAT BACK FOR REVIEW AND ADOPTION.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO STANDARDS HAS BEEN INCORPORATED AND THAT WOULD RELATE TO THE DESIGN OF CURB RAMPS AND ANY ADDITIONAL FEATURES FOR WHAT WAS EVALUATED.

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THE CITY IS ACTIVELY WORKING TO MAKE ALL OF OUR INTERSECTIONS AUDIBLE, AUDIBLE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR FOOT ON THE THROTTLE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE 100% COMPLIANCE IN THAT REGARD.

IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S COVERED UNDER OUR ADA TRANSITION PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN JANUARY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON, NOT JUST ON THOSE PUSH BUTTONS, BUT THEN ALSO MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE SIGNALS IS ALSO COMPLIANT. AND THEN WE ARE ALWAYS HERE TO LEARN.

WE'RE ALWAYS HERE TO SEE WHAT BEST PRACTICES EMERGE AS PROACTIVE IS ADOPTED AS WE MIGHT SEE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR ANY EMERGING DESIGN GUIDANCE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES.

SO IF WE START TO SEE ANY EVOLUTION IN THIS IN THIS REGARD, WE'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW SUIT, I'D SAY SO.

SALLY, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE STUDY AND REALLY VALIDATED FOR ME THE PARKWAY THAT I PRESENTED AT ONE OF THE PRIOR MEETINGS.

THE DESIGN APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING ON PARKWAY IS EFFECTIVELY USING THAT EDGE STRAIGHT, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE GOOD RESEARCH.

THE LATEST RESEARCH THAT I'VE SEEN SAID EFFECTIVELY A LOT OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUT INTO THAT PROJECT HAVEN'T BEEN STUDIED IN THOSE STUDIES, BACK IT UP.

SO YEAH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING TO DEPLOY ALL OF THOSE BEST PRACTICES AND BE LEADERS WHERE WE FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE, JUST IN THIS CASE FOR THE ORIENTATION AND CROSSWALK DESIGN, WHERE WE FEEL OTHERS ARE GOING TO BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO TAKE THE LEAD, ESPECIALLY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

WE NEED TO SEE SOME GUIDANCE.

SO THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR IF I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY, I'LL DIG INTO THE RESEARCH AND COME BACK WITH THE RESPONSE.

YOU'RE NOT WRONG.

WE'RE PROVIDING TRAINING AND CARE FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WALK.

OR THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THE ROOM TO CRY. LOOK FOR PEOPLE TO TURN RIGHT.

THEY'LL LOOK.

IS DOING A GOOD PROGRAM.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE PROBLEM.

WAS IT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING THE CROSSWALKS OR VISUALLY IMPAIRED THAT THEY HAVE ISSUES WHEN LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A PERSON, LET'S MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN RIGHT, RIGHT INTO A ROOM TO THE CAR.

THEY'RE RUNNING INTO CRAP.

YOU COULD BE WILLING TO WRITE SOME KIND OF THING OR CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THE GROUP.

ALL RIGHT. I FOLLOW THAT.

THEY'LL MOVE QUICKLY INTO COME AND DO IT.

YEAH. SO ON THE ISSUE OF LIKE ENTERING THE CROSSWALK AND HAVING DRIVERS TURNING AND NOT YIELDING TO YOU EFFECTIVELY.

SO WE HAVE SOME OPERATIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE AROUND THE CITY.

WELL, I WOULD SAY THE HIGHEST ORDER OPERATION IS WHAT WE HAVE ON THE SQUARE WHERE WE STOP ALL TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIANS CAN CROSS ANY DIRECTION, NO CONFLICTS. WHICH TYPICALLY WORKS BEST WHEN THE INTERSECTION IS SMALL, COMPACT.

SO YOU CAN CLEAR THE INTERSECTION QUICKLY.

AND THEN ON THE ON THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS LIKE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WE DO LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVALS OR WHAT WHAT JAMES ANDREWS AND OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS GROUP LIKES TO CALL DELAY OCCURRING WHERE THE CROSSWALK WILL SHOW A WALK INDICATION AND YOU GET INTO THE STREET BEFORE THE CARS GET A GREEN AND MAKE THE TURNS AND WE

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SO IT REDUCES THE CONFLICT OR IT MAKES YOU MORE VISIBLE TO ANYBODY WHO'S ENTERING THE CROSSWALK, MORE VISIBLE BEFORE A VEHICLE GETS THE GREEN MORE. YEAH.

IT'S IT'S A VERY COMMON CHALLENGE AS A PEDESTRIAN TO ENTER THE STREET AND PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

AND THOSE ARE THE WE TYPICALLY USE SIGNAL STRATEGIES TO SEPARATE USERS.

WE PHRASE THAT WE USE A LOT OF SEPARATE USERS IN SPACE AND TIME.

TIME IS MAKING SURE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN IS HAS GOT SOME DEDICATED TIME BEFORE THE VEHICLES COME INTO CONFLICT.

IN THAT CASE, WE'RE SORT OF SEPARATING, ADDING A LITTLE TIME DEDICATED TO PEDESTRIANS TO MAKE THEM MORE VISIBLE SO DRIVERS HAVE MORE LIKELIHOOD TO YIELD. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEW OF THOSE AROUND SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S THE BIG FOCUS THAT WE'VE HAD IS AROUND SCHOOL PARENTS.

RIGHT. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO DISCUSS OUR EMAIL EXCHANGE? WOULD THAT BE BETTER IN ANOTHER TIME? OH, GO RIGHT AHEAD. SO AFTER EVERYBODY WAS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT MY PROPOSAL LAST MEETING, I WENT AHEAD AND REACHED OUT TO THE REHAB CENTER I WORKED AT IN AUSTIN TO THE HEAD OF THE ORIENTATION MOBILITY DEPARTMENT BECAUSE HE HAS WORKED WITH STREET ENGINEERS IN AUSTIN AND EL PASO, AND I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S SEEN IT WITH OTHER CITIES.

SO I ASKED IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, IF HE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP TO DENTON TO WORK WITH STREET ENGINEERS, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO, TO, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF OPEN THEIR EYES TO WHAT IS REALLY WORKED FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE BLIND AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THEM.

AND SO IT TOOK A LITTLE TIME.

WE SHOT IT UP THE LADDER AND THEY ENDED UP GETTING APPROVAL, BUT FOR THEM TO TRAVEL UP HERE.

SO HE SAID THAT WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS IS TO COME UP FOR OVERNIGHT.

SO COME UP ONE DAY, DRIVE AROUND AND KIND OF ANALYZE, GET A FEEL FOR WHAT DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS ARE LOOKING LIKE.

AND THEN THE NEXT DAY OR MAYBE HALF A DAY WITH THE STREET ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW THEM WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

AND HE SUGGESTED A SHORT TERM LIKE MIDDLE OF AUGUST, I THINK, TO THE TO MAYBE SEPTEMBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IT WAS JUST KIND OF THE TIMELINE HE OFFERED WAS TOO QUICK.

SO, RYAN, IF YOU WANT TO.

OH, CERTAINLY. SO WE'RE TALKING WITH THEM KIND OF GETTING AN UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF THE VALUE THEY MIGHT PROVIDE.

AND OF COURSE, THE SHORT TERM TIMELINE, JUST THE CLOSER WE ARE TO NOW, THE TOUGHER IT IS TO SQUEEZE THINGS IN.

BUT I THINK AND I THINK IT WORKED OUT BETTER FOR THEM TO TO PUSH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OTHER EYES ON WHAT WE DO.

AND TO THAT POINT, I THINK, NATHAN, WERE YOU ALSO MAYBE SEEKING SOMETHING FOR YOUR PARKWAY PROJECT? I WOULD SAY FOR THE PARKWAY PROJECT, WE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO IMPLEMENTATION.

SO INSTALLING THE FACILITY ON PARKWAY AND THEN WE'VE TAKEN SOME BEFORE DATA COLLECTION.

SO WE LOOKED FOR PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES, WE DID SOME VIDEO COUNTS AND WE'VE DONE SOME SPEED SURVEYS WE'RE GOING TO DO AFTER SPEED SURVEYS AND COUNTS.

BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE SOMEONE WITH HAVE SOMEONE OR A GROUP OF FOLKS COME OUT AFTER THE FACILITY'S INSTALLED, WALK IT, SEE HOW IT IS TO THEM. BASICALLY DO LIKE A POST INSTALLATION INSPECTION SO WE CAN GET SOME REAL TIME FEEDBACK FROM LOW VISION USERS WE MIGHT HAVE IN THE CITY THAT COULD OFFER WHAT DO THEY SEE THAT WORKS? WHAT DOESN'T WORK, WHERE IT MIGHT.

WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT.

MY GOAL IS FOR THIS.

THIS PROJECT IS A PILOT EFFECTIVELY OF WHAT WE CAN DO IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.

ONE OF THOSE IS GOING TO BE MORE STREET IN SOUTHEAST DENTON WHERE WE JUST GOT A GRANT.

FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED FOR THAT PROJECT, SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CANDIDATE TO DO THE SAME TYPE OF FACILITY ON A MUCH LONGER STRETCH THAT CONNECTS TO THE CTA. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE'RE DEVELOPING MORE FACILITIES, WE'RE TAKING SOME INPUT FROM THE DESIGN, FROM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY AND USING THAT IN OUR SUBSEQUENT DESIGNS.

AND IF WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN OFFER THAT SORT OF INSIGHT, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

AND THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE TIME.

WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE VISITS TO GET THAT INPUT.

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IT WOULDN'T COST THE CITY ANYTHING.

SO IT'S IT'S REALLY NICE.

AND AT THE REHAB CENTER, IT WAS IT WAS MOST OF THEM.

WE WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE MULTI HANDICAPPED.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE DID WORK WITH PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS, PEOPLE THAT WERE DEAF FIND STROKE, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DISABILITIES.

SO THE PEOPLE COMING UP DO HAVE AN EXPERTISE, NOT ONLY JUST IN WORKING WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.

I COULD OFFER A LITTLE INSIGHT ON HOW ALL THIS WORKS FROM THE DESIGN COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE.

SO WHAT SALLY IS REFERRING TO IS THE THE USER BASED TRAINING.

SO ANYBODY WITH A DISABILITY CAN RECEIVE TRAINING RIGHT OUT OF ORIENTATION, MOBILITY TRAINING TO NAVIGATE THE ENVIRONMENT.

WHAT ARE THE CUES THAT YOU MIGHT USE TO SAFELY GET FROM WORK TO HOME OR FROM HOME TO A BUSINESS, THAT SORT OF THING? SO IT'S LIKE AN OCCUPATIONAL REHABILITATION SERVICE THAT'S OFFERED BY THE STATE.

ON THE DESIGN SIDE, WE HAVE THE EFFECTIVELY THE ADA CRITERIA THAT WE WORK TO AND THERE'S THERE'S FOLKS WHO ARE INVOLVED FROM DESIGN THROUGH COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT AND THE INSPECTION PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS, WHICH REFERS DIRECTLY TO PRO ACT, THE FEDERAL GUIDELINE I REFERRED TO EARLIER.

THERE ARE REGISTERED ACCESSIBILITY SPECIALISTS AS FOLKS WHO ARE CERTIFIED AS AN INSPECTOR, AND THEY REVIEW OUR PLANS WHEN THEY REACH A CERTAIN THRESHOLD 50,000. SO ANY PROJECTS OVER 50,000 RECEIVE A RIGOROUS CERTIFICATION AS THEY GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.

THEN AS INSPECTION, AS YOU GET CLOSE TO COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, THEY IDENTIFY ANY DEFICIENCIES AND THOSE FOR COMPLIANCE.

SO I'M NOW GETTING SOME OF OUR FOLKS IN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS GROUPS AS THEY GET THEIR PROJECTS CLOSE TO COMPLETION.

THEY'RE GETTING GRASS INSPECTIONS, IDENTIFYING ANY NON-COMPLIANT FACILITIES, AND WE HAVE TO REMEDY THOSE TO CLOSE OUT THE PROJECT EFFECTIVELY SO THAT THERE IS KIND OF THIS THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SORT OF INTERESTS, IF YOU WILL.

THE STATE AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS FOCUSED MORE SO ON THE USER SIDE.

AND THEN ON THE DESIGN SIDE, WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS, ALL THE TECHNICAL BACKGROUND, THEY DO STILL HEAVILY INFLUENCE EACH OTHER, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, ONCE YOU HIT THAT THRESHOLD, THE STATE IS WE'RE SUBMITTING OUR PLANS AND CERTIFYING THAT THEY'RE DESIGNED ACCORDING TO PRO AG AND THEY'RE INSPECTING THEM PRIOR TO COMPLETION, IDENTIFYING THE NON-COMPLIANT.

AND ALSO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE REHAB CENTER WORK THAT USED TO BE UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF ASSISTIVE AND REHABILITATIVE SERVICES AND THEN THAT WENT UNDER THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG AGENCY THAT NEEDS.

AND WHEN WE NEED FOLKS TO COME AND KIND OF TEST THE FINISHED PRODUCT ON THE PARKWAY PROJECT, I GUESS WOULD YOU LET ME KNOW? AND I CAN SEE IF THERE IS ANY PEOPLE WHO COULD PARTICIPATE IN THAT PRETTY GREAT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GET MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY COMING OUT AND LEARNING ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH THINGS AND REALLY GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK.

SO. I ACTUALLY SAW A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS OUTGOING GIVING THAT ORIENTATION MOBILITY TOUR HERE ON THE SQUARE.

IT IS REALLY INTERESTING TO MONITOR FROM THE SIDE OF THE WALL, IF YOU WILL, TO WATCH HIM DOING THAT TRAINING IS PRETTY INTERESTING.

WELL, THANKS SO MUCH TONIGHT THAT YOU DID A GOOD JOB.

HI, I'M LIBBY PHILLIP.

I'M A TRIPLE STROKE SURVIVOR, SO I DON'T SEE MIDDLE TO LEFT.

I WENT TO THE SQUARE TO GO TO RECYCLE BOOKSTORE.

WHEN I HAVE THE STROKES, WE HAVE COOKIES AND SAID, NEVER GO TO THE SQUARE.

EVERYTHING IS GRANDFATHERED IN, YOU'LL FALL.

YOU CAN'T GET IT THROUGH A WHEELCHAIR.

AND SO I WENT WITH A FRIEND TO GO HAVE DINNER AND I WAS JUST UTTERLY SURPRISED ABOUT THE ORDER OF THE HEARING, SAY CROSS NOW BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A MIDDLE OF THE LEFT, DON'T SEE STEPS, DON'T SEE CURVES. I'M GLAD THAT SAYS GO NOW.

SO THEN YOU KNOW WHEN TO GO, ALL RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE CARS AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE LINE, YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF THAT.

SO THE AUDIBLE SOUND WAS GREAT THEN TO KNOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO GO.

SO THANK YOU. IT HAS TO BE GREAT.

I THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT AS WELL.

AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT PEOPLE TO TEST DRIVE, SO TO SPEAK.

THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING INCLUDE NIST BECAUSE I HAVE A STRONG MOBILITY ORIENTATION PROGRAM AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

CAN I JUST ONE OTHER THOUGHT AS WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM THE USER SIDE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE WAY THAT WE TRY TO REMIND

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AND I'M THINKING WE COULD DO THAT NOT ONLY THROUGH THE PAPER BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY NOT TAKE IT, BUT WHEN THE INFORMATION THAT COMES WITH OUR UTILITY BILLS OR SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD JUST SORT OF LAY OUT A LOT.

JUST A REMINDER FOR YOU TO BE AWARE OF.

PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLE OR WHATEVER.

THESE ARE THE LAWS AND THIS IS WHAT THESE ARE THE PENALTIES AND KIND OF MAKE OUR YOU KNOW, THE POLICE FORCE MAY BE MORE AWARE OF ENFORCING THAT SORT OF THING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING, I'M SURE, FOR PEDESTRIANS WHO ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CROSSWALK AND CARS ARE JUST ZOOMING AROUND ON EITHER SIDE OF IT.

AND THEY'RE THEY'RE FULLY CAPABLE.

THESE INDIVIDUALS MAY BE CAPABLE OF RUNNING OR SEEN OR WHATEVER, AND THEY STILL ARE SORT OF STUCK.

SO IT'S JUST A COMMENT.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IN 2019, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD PREPARED A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY MATERIALS TO GO OUT.

COVID HAPPENED AND WE QUICKLY NOW IT'S A COMMUNITY STUPIDITY.

WE QUICKLY HAD TO SHIFT GEARS, BUT I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE THAT EDUCATION MATERIAL OUT THERE AND SOME OF THE AVENUES PROBABLY IF NOT THE UTILITY BILL, WE HAVE OUR CONSTRUCTION GUIDE, WHICH IS VERY MUCH ON ROAD CONSTRUCTION STREETS AND WE CAN ADD PEDESTRIAN ELEMENTS IN THERE AS WELL, AND THAT GOES TO EVERY DOORSTEP IN THE CITY.

I WON'T GET ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T COME TO DENTON OR DOESN'T LIVE IN IT AND THEY JUST THEY JUST KIND OF LAYER.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE RESIDENT UPDATE, SO IT MIGHT BE A GOOD FOR ONE THAT GOES ON QUARTERLY.

SO ONE OF THOSE TWO PUBLICATIONS, I'M THINKING WE COULD ADD SOME PEDESTRIAN SAFETY INFORMATION IN THERE.

AND TO YOUR POINT ON POLICE, I THINK ON A.

I WOULD SAY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

BUT THEY HAD CERTAIN OCCASIONS WHEN THEY WHEN THEY PUSH OUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

SO WE MIGHT TRY TO TIME IT WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A MAYBE FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, BUT THEY MIGHT WORK AND WORK TOGETHER KIND OF TO DOUBLE UP THAT MESSAGE.

I'VE GOT TO KNOW NOW WE CAN GET THAT IN OUR CONTENT COUNT BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE THE MESSAGING CREATED IS JUST PUTTING IT INTO INTO THE CHANNEL THAT WOULD GO OFF AND EVERYBODY ALREADY GOT IT. YEAH.

I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECT SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

THERE, THERE ARE TIMEFRAMES FOR AND IT'S A TARGETED ENFORCEMENT WHICH IS PEDESTRIAN OR OVERALL TRAFFIC SAFETY.

AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER TRAFFIC SAFETY.

FIRST, WE NEED TO REMIND EVERYBODY KIND OF LIKE A PASS I CAN DO WITH KIN.

NOW, THIS IS WHAT RIGHT. THIS IS WRONG.

OKAY. NOW, IF YOU'RE IF YOU KNOW RIGHT AND WRONG AND YOU VIOLATE IT, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.

SO ONCE WE GET TO LOOK AT THE TIMING, NOW WE'VE GOT THE VEHICLES AVAILABLE, WE'VE GOT THE CHANNELS THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE IN THOSE PUBLICATIONS.

I THINK WE FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

HMM. NO, I THINK.

I DON'T KNOW.

THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION PRESENTATION.

SO IF WE'RE GOOD, I'LL SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE INFORMATION.

THANKS FOR SHARING THE RESEARCH.

IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

[D. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff feedback regarding accessibility at Denton Public Libraries.]

YOU'RE OUT. OH. HELLO.

HI. PEOPLE COME UP HERE TO THE TABLE.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GONNA GO BEFORE YOU.

OKAY. IS IT GOOD WHERE WE LIKE TO SIT? YEAH. GREAT.

THANK YOU. YES.

MY NAME IS SONIA GRAVES, AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

I AM ALSO THE SERVICES LIBRARIAN.

SO HELLO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

SO TODAY, BASICALLY, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AREAS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT IN THE LIBRARY.

WE'RE CONSIST OF THREE DIFFERENT BRANCHES, SOUTH AND NORTH.

AND SO TODAY THE IDEA IS JUST TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THE DIFFERENT BRANCHES.

AND THIS IS NOT REALLY LIKE GETTING LOST OF THE LITTLE DETAILS, BUT IT'S MORE LIKE WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT JUST FROM THE GET GO, LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE

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BEFORE THAT. HELLO.

THAT'S ME RIGHT THERE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE ARE THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THEY'RE GREAT. THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY, BUT THAT IS OKAY.

OKAY. SO OUR PURPOSE STATEMENT, FOR THE MOST PART, IS TO JUST MAKE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION A PRIORITY AND PLANNING AND DECISION MAKING.

SO WE STRIVE TO REFLECT THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE A RESPECTFUL EXPLORATION OF OUR DIFFERENCES IN A SAFE AND POSITIVE MANNER.

AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE COMMITTEE.

WE TRY TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POLICIES, GUIDELINES AND LIBRARY OPERATIONS AND PROMOTE ONGOING STAFF DEVELOPMENT, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN LINE WITH THE STATED GOALS.

AND TWO OF OUR BIG GOALS ARE CORE THREE IS CREATING AN ACCESSIBLE AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL, ENSURING THAT OUR COLLECTIONS REPRESENT THE VERY NEEDS AND INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OFFERING INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS. TODAY, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE MAINLY FOCUSED ON JUST THE ACTUAL PLACE.

EVERYTHING ELSE, THOUGH, IS SOMETHING THAT IN THE FUTURE I WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS MORE SO OF OTHER THINGS ENGAGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP STRONG CONNECTIONS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, AND THEN DEVELOP A SHARED UNDERSTANDING AS UNDERSTANDING SHOULD BE A COLLABORATION AFTER TRAINING, OPEN DISCUSSIONS AND INTERNAL REPRESENTATION. SO THE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS MOBILITY BARRIERS.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE WILL FOCUS ON LATER ON, BUT FOR NOW IT'S JUST KIND OF INTERESTING THAT WE HAD THIS OTHER PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH IN LINE THAT WAS NOT ON PURPOSE. SO WHAT ARE SOME COMMON THINGS THAT PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY BARRIERS IN PLACE FROM OUR ENVIRONMENT, THE LIBRARY SPECIFICALLY? WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR USE OF THE LIBRARY? HOW CAN WE IMPROVE SERVICES OR ARRANGEMENTS IN THE BUILDING TO MEET THOSE NEEDS? SO WE START OFF WITH THE SOUTH BRANCH AND THIS IS THE SOUTH BRANCH MAIN ENTRYWAY.

THAT IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE FAR RIGHT ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SIDE PARKING LOT.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO WAYS TO GET ON.

WE HAVE THAT LITTLE INCLINE, BUT EVEN WHEN I HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, ROLLING CAR, IT IS VERY IT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET UP ON DOWN THERE.

SO LIKE I SAID, MY MAIN THING HERE IS TO JUST KIND OF GATHER SOME FEEDBACK, SOME THOUGHTS.

WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE WE COULD EXPLORE? YES. WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE ROLLING CURTAINS AT THE ANGLE OF THE RAMP, IT CAN SOMETIMES GET STUCK.

AND I MEAN, I'M JUST.

YEAH. AND SOMETIMES AND I MEAN, IT JUST DEPENDS WHEN I'M MOVING THAT PART, BUT IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE I HAVE TO DO A CERTAIN ANGLE TO KIND OF GET UP THERE.

THE OTHER ONE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT, THE SIDE PARKING LOT USUALLY DOESN'T GIVE ME ANY TROUBLE, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR IT.

AND I DID NOTICE THAT.

SO. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF BRING UP AND SEE IF ANYONE HAD ANY THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK.

AND IF NOT, I CAN CONTINUE ON.

SO IT IS MAKING IT A SMOOTH RAMP OPTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE WITH IT OR NOT.

NO, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE EITHER.

BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT I COULD JUST AT LEAST BRING UP.

WHAT ABOUT A CHAIR OF SOME TYPE? LIKE I'VE BEEN AT THE NORTH BRANCH LIBRARY BEFORE, AND IF YOU DRIVE, YOU TAKE THE BUS.

AT THE BUS SPRINGS, YOU'RE EARLY, YOU'RE JUST LEANING AGAINST THE BUILDING AND LEANING.

LEANING, AND YOU CAN FALL OUT OF THESE ROLL LAYERS.

I'VE FALLEN OUT, SO IT'S NOT A SAFE PLACE.

AND I WAS THINKING THE BENCHES OF THE NORTH BRANCH THAT ARE OUTSIDE OR WAY, WAY LOW, IF YOU GET THERE, YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THEM.

OKAY. SO I WAS THINKING THEY HAD A LEVEL CHAIR, SOME KIND OF SEATING THERE.

IF YOU WAIT FOR 5 MINUTES, THE LIBRARY OPEN, IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. RAISE THE HEIGHT.

IN GENERAL. SO WE SET UP OR EVEN JUST RAISE THE RAISE THE BENCHES IN GENERAL ELECTIONS.

OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE WHEELCHAIR HAD TO BE PERFECT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT WHEELCHAIR HEIGHT, TOILETS, WHEELCHAIR HEIGHT, EVERYTHING.

SO LOTS OF BENCHES WOULD BE GREAT.

AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

THANK YOU. IT'S MY LIFE ON THE DAILY.

I MEAN. YEAH, OKAY.

[00:40:03]

WE'VE GOT THE ENTRY WHERE THE FIRST DOORS, WE DO HAVE THAT LITTLE BUTTON THAT YOU CAN PUSH SO THEY CAN OPEN THE ENTRY WAY.

I HAVE SEEN THAT IT IS WIDE ENOUGH FOR MOST WHEELCHAIRS.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OTHER PROBLEMS. AND ALSO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ON CRUTCHES AS WELL.

SO THAT IS THAT ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO IN A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S. PRETTY WIDE SPACE FOR GOING INSIDE.

THERE ARE. THAT IS A RECENT CHANGE.

HAVE YOU EVER GONE TO SOUTH KOREA IN A WHILE? WE HAVE CHANGED OUR DESK.

SO THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED.

THAT CHECK OUT STATION WAS NOT THERE.

THAT USED TO BE OUR ACCOUNTS DESK AND OUR REFERENCE DESK.

NOW IT IS WHERE THE CHECKOUT STATION IS.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE ROOM THERE.

AND I WILL SHOW YOU ALL WHAT THE DESK LOOKS LIKE.

NOW, THAT'S OUR BATHROOM ENTRANCE.

OUR BATHROOM, I WILL ADMIT, IS LIKE FARTHER INTO THE BUILDING.

I PUT IT UP HERE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT THE BATHROOM LOOKS LIKE.

ONE THING THAT I HAVE NOTED IS THAT THERE IS I MEAN, IT'S JUST REALLY A PUSH TO OPEN KIND OF THING.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BROUGHT UP AS.

WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? WE'RE LIKE, WELL, THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR IS A LOT OLDER.

AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, CAN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING TO HELP? BECAUSE EVEN MYSELF WOULD JUST OPENING THAT, IT CAN BE REALLY HEAVY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP TO KIND OF THIS BE KIND OF SHOWING ALL THE IMAGES IN THERE ARE JUST PLACES THAT I, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, THE COMMUNITY HAS SO NOTED X, Y, Z, OR AT LEAST MAKES SOME SORT OF OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT SEEING.

SO, YES, I'M SORRY, THE NORTH BRANCH IS THE ONE I GO TO ALL THE TIME.

I CAN'T. I HAVE ONE ARM THAT WORKS LIKE IT, EITHER HOLD MY ROW LATER OR I CAN GET THE DOOR OPEN.

SO THEY HAD SOME KIND OF BUTTON.

IT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THERE ARE LIMBS THAT WORK TO GET IT OPEN AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE THERE, I'VE GOTTEN STUCK BEFORE I'D CALL NINE ONE.

HI, THIS IS LIVING. EVERYTHING WILL COME GET ME OUT OF THE BATHROOM.

I REALLY GUESS YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE TRAPPED IN THE LIBRARY.

YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THE DOOR OPEN.

WELL, AND IT'S.

I'LL WAIT TILL YOU'RE FINISHED WRITING.

OH, NO, NO. YOU'RE GOOD. GO AHEAD.

IS THERE A NEED FOR.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO DO, LIKE, SOME BACKUP? WELL, THAT WOULD JUST BE A REDESIGN, IS WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT.

YOU DO? I GUESS YOU DO NEED A DOOR.

YEAH. SO WHAT SHE SUGGESTED WOULD BE THE ANSWER.

YEAH. THE BUTTON. YEAH, BECAUSE I WENT TO EMILY.

IT'S A WIDE OPEN SPACE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A DOOR TO GET THROUGH.

AND FOR PEOPLE, YOU DEALING WITH WHEELCHAIRS, WALKERS, KATE, YOU'VE GOT TO CARRY THAT PLUS PURSE OR WHATEVER PERSONAL BELONGINGS YOU HAVE.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE TWO ARMS, IT'S GOING TO FALL.

AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, I'M GOING TO THROW UP.

AND THEN YOU LOOK AROUND FRANTICALLY FOR ANYBODY TO HELP YOU.

YEAH. AND THAT'S YEAH, THIS IS AN EASY FIT.

I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION I JUST WANTED TO SAY ALSO JUST MY MY LIBRARY IS IS ONE OF THE MOST.

AND I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP, THEY ARE PRETTY UNWIELDY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE ROOM LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT FOLLOWS ALL OF THE STANDARDS.

BUT I THINK THE POINT IS TO DO BETTER, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT EVEN JUST IF THERE WAS SOME WAY TO WIDEN OUT WHERE WE EVEN WHERE WE GET IN TO GET INTO THE DOOR WOULD MAKE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.

AND THEN THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN ALL THE STALLS, IT'S IT'S LARGE ENOUGH, IT WORKS, IT DOES THE JOB, BUT IT COULD BE BETTER.

SOUTH BRANCH IS ALSO LOOKING AT WELL, THERE ARE DIRECTORS LOOKING INTO GETTING A NEW BUILDING THAT'S IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IF IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY WITH THE PROCESS, THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IMMEDIATELY AND ABLE TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR THIS BUILDING.

AS FAR AS LIKE THE FUTURE BUILDING, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING UP AND HAVE AS FEEDBACK AND INSIDE.

OKAY. SO WHY THEN I.

OKAY. SO A LITTLE BIT MORE, SELFRIDGE.

SO, COMPUTER STATIONS.

THIS IS WHAT THAT WALKWAY LOOKS LIKE.

THAT IS I MEAN, THEY ARE PRETTY BLOWN OUT FOR THE MOST PART.

THE COMPUTER STATIONS, WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE HIGH CAPACITY.

SO THERE IS USUALLY MORE ROOM AND.

[00:45:02]

BUT YOU'RE GETTING YOUR PRINTS BECAUSE THE PRINTS ARE UP HERE.

YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? THEY'RE UP THERE.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I'M LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW. SORRY.

I GO TO THE NORTH RANCH.

ONE THING THAT I STRUGGLE WITH, THE NORTH BRANCH IS THERE'S NO CHAIRS WITHOUT WHEELS IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD BALANCE.

THE CHAIR ROLLS OUT FROM UNDER YOU.

SO THEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO BALANCE AND TO SIT.

EVEN HERE, I'M TRYING NOT TO LEAN BECAUSE IF YOU LEAN TOO FAR, YOU DON'T HAVE PERSONAL BALANCE.

A CHAIR WITHOUT WHEELS WOULD BE GREAT.

WHAT ARE YOU DO? I SAT DOWN IN ONE OF THESE MEETING YESTERDAY AND JUST KIND OF, LIKE, KNOCKED MY HEAD BACK AGAIN.

DID YOU HAVE LIMBS AT WORK? YEAH. UNDER ME.

SO CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? SO I CAN MAKE SURE I GET A CHAIR WITH NO WHEELS AND PREFERABLY ARMS. BECAUSE YOUR ARMS, YOU AVOID FALLING OUT.

THERE'S A MAXIMUM LEFT AND MAXIMUM RIGHT.

SIMILAR TO A WHEELCHAIR, IN THEORY.

HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THE OLIVE GARDEN IS FULL OF PEOPLE? DO THEY HAVE TONS OF ARMS? YOU CAN'T FALL OUT OF IT. AND WE DO HAVE CHAIRS WITHOUT THE WHEELS, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE COMPUTER STATION.

SO HAVING MAYBE A DIFFERENT SET OF OPTIONS, THEY'RE REALLY GOOD.

OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE.

I MEAN. SIMPLE ENOUGH, YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION OF THE GROUP LOOKING AT THE COMPUTER STATIONS IN THE COMPUTER KIND OF COMPRESSED TOGETHER. AND I'M THINKING SOMEONE THAT MIGHT HAVE A A LARGER MOBILITY DEVICE, SOMEONE LIKE JOE.

AND AGAIN, NOT WANTING TO PULL SOMEONE AWAY AND MAKE THEM FEEL SEPARATE, DIFFERENT, BUT MAYBE TAKING A COUPLE OF THOSE UNITS AND SPREADING THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT SO SOMEONE COULD GET IN THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE UP SOMEONE THE SPOT RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.

WOULD THAT BE WOULD THAT BE A LITTLE EASIER MAYBE TO NAVIGATE IN? RIGHT. I THINK THAT IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF OTHER LIKE EVEN SOME PEOPLE WITH INVISIBLE DISABILITIES MORE COMFORTABLE NOT HAVING TO BE SO CLOSE TO SOMEBODY ELSE, PERSONAL SPACE, MAYBE EVEN A LARGER KEYBOARD.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE LETTERS BETTER.

THAT OR EVEN JUST I MEAN THEY HAVE.

OR YOU CAN JUST GET.

OR THERE ARE ADOPTIVE PEOPLE.

RIGHT. BUT THERE'S ONE. YOU JUST HAVE THE HIGHER NUMBERS AND ALSO THEY HAVE BETTER FEELING ABOUT.

YEAH. THEY HAVE A MORE SOLID CHUNK WHEN YOU PRESS A KEY DOWN VERSUS JUST KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, MAYBE JUST A VARIATION OF KEYWORDS.

VARIATION, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THIS OUT.

RIGHT. I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THE COMPUTER STATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN ALSO BRING UP JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF STATIONS, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT FULL CAPACITY.

SO THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE, I THINK, DESIGN WISE.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING, I'M GLAD THAT YOU SAID Y'ALL HAVE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE CHAIRS WITHOUT THE ARMS YET BECAUSE WE JUST GOT NEW CHAIRS FOR OUR MEETING ROOM.

AND THE IDEA WAS NOT HAVING THE CHAIRS ON THAT ONE BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLASSICALLY SO LIKE HAVING TO SIT IN THERE WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT, BUT IT IS OF A BETTER QUALITY.

SO I THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAD MORE GIRLS, JUST LITTLE VARIATIONS AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING TO IT, BUT LOOKING AT THE SHELVING OF BOOKS AND I'M A VERY HIGH I HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN WHEELCHAIRS.

LOOK AT GETTING YOUR SHELVING.

SAID. WHAT ARE THE CHANGES? ONLY FOR FRENCH.

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN IN NORTH BRANCH.

IS THAT HOW IT IS? I'M GOING TO SELL FRENCH.

I'M ABOUT TO GO INTO NORTHERN FRANCE.

YEAH. CAN A RESTAURANT GET A CONCEPT SIMILAR TO WHAT SET? EMILY FOWLER PRACTICAL.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON? MAYBE. MAYBE AHEAD OF MYSELF.

IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS AREA THAT.

I DID NOT GET INTO THAT WENT FOR MORE HIGH TRAFFIC? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHATEVER YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY THIS IS.

HONESTLY. GO FOR IT.

WELL, JUST MY THOUGHTS IN THE CHILDREN'S BRANCH, OR AT LEAST IN THE CHILDREN'S AREA IT IS.

WE'VE GOT THE MAIN WALKWAY AND WE'VE GOT THE BACK TOWARDS THE BACK SIDE.

[00:50:01]

IT WILL PUSH ALL THE WAY BACK.

BUT THE BIG THING THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S AREAS, AND I THINK THAT IN ALL LIBRARIES FOR SEVERAL REASONS, IS DOORS WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW ARE THAT I'VE SEEN.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OPEN WHENEVER I GO THERE.

SO THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES TO THE CHILDREN'S AREA.

YOU'VE GOT THE DOOR HERE AND THE DOOR THERE ARE THE I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T EVER SEEN THE DOORS CLOSED.

IF THERE ARE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE ARE.

BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN OPEN.

THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM FOR AUTISM BECAUSE KIDS WANT TO GET OUT OF SITUATIONS AND IT COULD RESULT IN THE RUNNING LOOSE IN THE LIBRARY, FIRST OFF, BUT ALSO QUITE RIGHT FOR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THERE.

THE HANDS DOORS IS A QUIET ROOM AND OUR MEETING ROOMS. SO THE ROOMS, EVERYTHING ELSE IS MORE OPEN.

RIGHT. THERE IS NO.

YOU DON'T HAVE DOORS. YEAH.

I WAS JUST THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO HELP SOME OF THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE KIDS WITH A LIVING PROBLEMS. THIS IS AN EXTRA AREA.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE A CAGE WHERE YOU LOCK THE KID IN, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO SLOW THEM DOWN SO THAT THEIR PARENT OR CAREGIVER CAN REACH THEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW. IT'S AN ORGAN POINT RIGHT HERE.

SEE, THAT WORKS. BLUE BATTERY.

ALL RIGHT, YOU JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

YOU GO AHEAD AND CLICK.

HANG ON. WELL, LET'S SEE.

SO THERE'S THE STUDY ROOM ENTRANCE.

THAT'S ONE OF THEM.

THE STUDY ROOM. AND THAT'S WHAT THE INSIDE OF SPENDING LOOKS LIKE.

ONE THING THAT I ALSO NOTED WAS LIKE THE WHITEBOARD AND I DIDN'T GET A PICTURE OF THAT.

THERE'S A WHITEBOARD ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND IT'S HIGH UP.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE CAN MOVE THAT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP TO.

OUR DIRECTOR JOINS US IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANT TO BE LIKE, LOOK, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, BUT I THINK MAYBE YOU COULD JUST ADD A LOWER ONE ALSO TO PUT SOME WEIGHT ON THAT DOOR.

IT DOES LOOK ONE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SURE. TO GET THROUGH. YES.

BECAUSE A LOT OF WHICH ARE 35 INCHES EVEN I AM I WILL NEED TO ACTUALLY GET THE DIMENSIONS THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE TO GET THAT.

BUT. YEAH. YOU CAN.

IT'S ACCOMMODATING, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

BUT I THINK THAT THE SPACE ON THE INSIDE OF THE WHEELCHAIR, IF A PERSON USING IT, COULD BE A LITTLE TIGHT.

YES. SO GO AHEAD, JOE, WHERE ARE YOU? LET ME.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.

DO YOU NEED TO LEAVE? NO.

SO, I MEAN.

SO YOU DO NEED TO LEAVE HOME.

OKAY. WE CAN DESIGNATE A TEMPORARY CHAIR TO RUN THE MEETING IN YOUR STEAD, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.

I BELIEVE THE PROCESS FOR THAT IS TO GET THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.

SIMPLY TAKE A NOMINATION AND HOLD A VOTE.

WOULD YOU EVEN LIKE TO NOMINATE SOMEONE REAL QUICK TO BE THE TEMPORARY CHAIR? I WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO.

SO ALL IN FAVOR OF VAL.

GO AHEAD. WELL, I HOPE YOU WERE GOOD. I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL IF YOU MISSED ANYTHING.

I AM, ARUN.

BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.

[00:55:05]

I THINK YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

OKAY. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACCOMMODATING ALL OF THE LIBRARY COMMITTEE.

AND I MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO AGAIN ABOUT SENDING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.

WE HAVE THE POWERPOINTS WITH THE LAYOUT.

WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? CAN YOU GIVE US A TIMELINE TO DO THAT WITH YOUR REPORT? I CAN GET BACK TO THIS IN AUGUST OR AUGUST, MEANING WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK.

SO ABSOLUTELY WE ARE THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF AUGUST.

SO LET ME AND THAT WAY I CAN ALSO GET BACK WITH DIMENSIONS AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.

SO AUGUST 24TH.

SO WHAT IS THE CONSENSUS OF WHAT? WELL, THERE IS ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BRING UP ON WHENEVER POSSIBLE.

LAST TIME THE LIBRARY SHOWED UP TO OUR COMMITTEE MEETING, THERE WAS A MATTER OF LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY COMMONLY DON'T ACCEPT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AS VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STAND UP AND REACH THE TOP SHELVES.

SO SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS, JUST MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT AND JUST MAYBE KIND OF ADDRESS THAT HUGE CONCERN.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

YEAH. AND I'M WONDERING IF IF IT LOOKS LIKE PUSH BUTTON DOORS IS A SOLUTION TO A LOT OF LIKE THIS ROOM HERE, I'M THINKING THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IF PEOPLE HAVE TO CHECK IN ON THE REFERENCES.

SO WE WILL TYPICALLY OPEN THE DOOR AND PEOPLE COME IN.

BUT TO GET OUT OF THE ROOM AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I'M I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

ALYSON HAD TO GO TO THE FACILITY REAL QUICK, AND THAT BRINGS US BELOW OUR QUORUM.

SO IF WE CAN MAKE ALL THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL SHE RETURNS, WE WILL ASK FOR 5 MINUTES.

PLEASE BE SEATED AND WILL RESUME OUR CONVERSATION.

THANKS FOR READING.

THANK YOU. FORM HAS RESUMED AND WE WILL CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION FOR THE RECORD.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE STUDY ROOMS IN SOUTHBRIDGE.

OKAY. SO EXCELLENT.

YES. ABOUT THE STUDY ROOMS. TRY TO REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I USED ONE.

OUTLETS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

THEY'RE UNDER THE TABLE.

RIGHT. DO THEY HAVE ONE ON THE WALL OVER THERE? THEY'RE ON THE TOP ON THE CORNER.

OKAY. AND THEN THERE IS ONE WHEN YOU ENTER ON THAT.

RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A LONG EXTENSION CORD.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHERE THOSE OUTLETS.

OKAY, GREAT. YEAH.

THIS IS NOT WORKING.

CAN YOU GO BACK? YEAH, THAT'S THE REFERENCE FOR THIS NEW ONE.

IT CAN GO UP AND DOWN.

GREAT. YEAH, I KNOW.

I HAVE A LOT OF FUN PLAYING AROUND.

WOW. OUR MONITOR ALSO SWINGS AND GOES UP AND DOWN.

WOW. IT'S REALLY GREAT.

HEY, I DID FIND OUT ALSO THAT OUR CARD READER, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT CARD READER IS DETACHABLE.

WOW. CAN BE HANDED TO A PERSON.

THAT'S GREAT. SO SORRY.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD. THAT.

THAT'S LIKE, THE NEWEST THING THAT CAME UP FOR US.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED ON TO IT AS WE FIND MORE DESIGN, THINGS THAT COULD BE BETTER.

BUT THAT IS WHAT IT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE, AND IT DOES DO THAT.

SO I'M HOPING THAT MEANS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO MORE OF THAT TECH AND OTHER SERVICE DESK.

I KNOW NORTH BRANCH IS ALSO GETTING THAT SERVICE DESK UPDATE.

SO. YEAH.

SPEAKING OF NORTH BRANCH, I AM NOT FROM NORTH BRANCH.

SO A LOT OF THESE PICTURES ARE FROM MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

SO THIS IS THE GENERAL ENTRYWAY OF THE NORTH BRANCH.

[01:00:05]

ONCE YOU GET THERE, YOU CAN GET OUT OF IT.

OKAY. SO.

IF I CAN MAKE ONE COMMENT, JUST.

IT'S JUST A QUESTION.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH NORTH BRANCH WITH MOST OF OUR LIBRARIES IS A BOOK RETURN VERY CLOSE TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

BUT I BELIEVE WITH THE NORTH BRANCH TO RETURN YOUR BOOK, YOU HAVE YOUR TWO SETS OF DOORS, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

I WAS CURIOUS. THAT WAS A DIFFICULTY THAT BECAUSE DO WE NEED TO PUT A BOOK DROP SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THE MAIN DOOR? THERE IS NO ONE ELSE OUT THERE.

YEAH, GOOD POINT.

I HAD THAT EXPERIENCE TODAY.

OH, THANK YOU. I LIKE YOU ALL.

I HAVE MY FAVORITE LIBRARY, AND I GOT TURNED AROUND.

I COULDN'T FIND ONE. I HAD TO GET IT.

THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ON THAT.

I ALSO DO WANT TO NOTE THAT CURBSIDE SERVICE LETS AT NORTH AND PROVIDING IT AT OTHERS IS A GREAT SUGGESTION REALLY THAT WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IF WE HAVE NO RIGHT.

SORRY. IT'S GREAT IF YOU GO TO I GO TO THE NORTH.

I LOVE IT'S MY FAVORITE PLACE TO STUDY.

THAT DOOR HAS GOT A PROBLEM, SO IT'S BEEN PROPPED OPEN.

SO IF YOU HAVE A WHEELCHAIR, YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH BECAUSE IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH OF A DISTANCE.

BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REHAB, WE'RE TRYING TO ROLL INTO THE LIBRARY.

THE DOOR IS PROPPED UP.

SOME KIND OF ERROR SAYS DO NOT PRESS THE THING BECAUSE THE DOOR IS PROPPED OPEN, BUT IT'S ONLY PROPPED OPEN FOR A HUMAN, NOT FOR ANY KIND OF HUMAN PLUS ADAPTIVE EQUIPMENT.

EVEN ME WHO WALKS COULDN'T GET MY WALKER IN THROUGH THE DOOR.

WOW. I WAS LIKE, I'M TRAPPED.

WOW. LET ME NEED HELP.

I MEAN, AT LEAST I CAN ADVOCATE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T ADVOCATE.

NO, I GUESS NOT. GOING CAN'T FIT RIGHT NOW.

NORTH BRANCH DOORS ARE ALWAYS MESSED UP.

THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE AUTOMATIC ONES LIKE YOU WALKING HERE.

BUT I DID.

YEAH. WHEN I CAME IN HERE, I WAS LIKE, OH, GREAT.

YEAH, SURE, YOU CAN BUILD ANOTHER VERSION.

I'LL BE THAT ONE. AND I, WHEN I VISITED THERE RECENTLY, I THINK IT WAS I, I VISITED THERE RECENTLY, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, SOME SUMMER READING STUFF WHEN I WENT TO MY HAND AT THIS ONE ON ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ENTRYWAY THAT'S INSIDE.

IT TOOK A WHILE FOR IT TO REGISTER, BUT THE OTHER ONE WAS OKAY LIKE IT WAS IT GOT IT.

I DID LIKE THAT AND THEY GOT IT.

BUT THE FIRST ONE TOOK A WHILE, SO I HAVE TO SEE THAT IT IS A SHARED OBSERVATION, ALTHOUGH I'M SAD IT IS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT'S OKAY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHAIRS ON CHAIRS THAT DO NOT HAVE WHEELS, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT ALSO FOR THE MEETING ROOMS AT THE LIBRARY? HOW FEW OF THE DINING ROOM PROVIDERS AND CHAIRS? Q THAT WOULD BE FROM DANNY ROSE.

IT'S INTERESTING. WE DO DO THAT FOR THE STUDY ROOMS, THE MEETING ROOM.

SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN THERE SO WE CAN CHECK THE DOORWAY OF THE STUDY ROOM AT NORTH BRANCH.

NORTH BRANCH HAS A BIG GLASS.

I THINK IT'S EMILY FOWLER THAT HAS A LITTLE DOOR.

WAS LIKE ME AND MY WHEELCHAIR CAN'T GET IT TO STAY OUTSIDE BECAUSE IT'S A NARROW DOOR.

SO I WISH FOR FRIENDS INSTEAD BECAUSE MY FRIDGE HAS A GLASS DOOR TO THE STUDY ROOM TO GET IN.

AND I THINK BECAUSE AN ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIR IS 35 INCHES ACROSS, WHICH IS ONLY 28.

SO IT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN SIZE.

HERE IT IS. IF YOU NEED ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM.

I HAVE. I'LL BE YOUR TEST DUMMY, TOO, IF YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO PRACTICE.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, NEXT SLIDE, JUST REAL QUICK.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BATHROOMS ENTRANCE.

THE BUTTON TO OPEN THE DOORS AND GET THE DOOR OPEN.

AND THAT'S THE STUDY ROOM ENTRANCE TO.

OKAY. SAME THING.

YEAH. AND YOU SEE, YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE THE WHITE BOARD.

THERE IS MIDWAY.

THE ONE THAT'S STILL HIGH, THOUGH, BUT THE ONE AT EXCEL, BECAUSE I'M THERE, I KNOW THAT MUCH HIGHER.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING I DO LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING AN ADDITIONAL WHITEBOARD TOO.

[01:05:01]

MORE ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK EVEN SO, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE WATER ANYWAY.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

EMILY FOWLER BRANCH IS THE ENTRY WAY WITH THE EXIT VIEW AND THE ENTRY RAMP ENTRANCE IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH THE EMILY FOWLER BRANCH, SO I'VE GONE THERE ONLY A FEW TIMES.

THINK ABOUT THE I GUESS IT'S THE SECURITY SYSTEM GOING IN AND OUT.

IT'S DIVIDED AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WIDE ENOUGH CONSIDERATION FOR THAT ONE.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO LIKE THAT ONE.

I'M NOT SURE. IT MIGHT BE OLDER, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF.

I DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR.

YEAH. AND IT DOES HAVE THAT MENTAL SIDE.

AND I WANTED TO MENTION EMILY FOWLER.

THEY'RE WAVING THE HAND THINGS SO MUCH PROBLEM.

THEY WENT BACK TO THE HAND WHEN YOU PUSH IT.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU WAVE IT, IT JUST IT JUST GAVE PROBLEMS TOO MUCH AT A TIME.

SO I GUESS IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE HAVING MORE SUCCESS WITH WHERE YOU PUSH IT.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

I TRY TO ASK MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GIVE ME ANY INSIGHT THAT DID NOT MENTION THAT BEING A PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE JUST THEM NOT GETTING THAT.

SO AND I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

EMILY FOWLER OTHER LIBRARIES PROBABLY HAD I USED EMILY FOWLER MOSTLY, AND THEY HAD A FANTASTIC DISABILITY PRIDE DISPLAY THERE.

AND I SUGGESTED FOWLER.

THAT WAS THE FORMER CHAIR OF OUR COMMITTEE.

HE'S WRITTEN A BOOK OF POETRY.

SO I SUGGESTED THAT I DIDN'T SEE IT THERE AND I SUGGESTED THEY GET A COPY OF IT.

AND I TOLD HIM THAT I HAD DONE THAT.

AND HE SAID, DID THEY GET ANYBODY WITH A DISABILITY TO WORK ON THE DISPLAY? I SAID, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT SURE WHO FROM EMILY'S WORK ON THE DISPLAY.

I THINK IT WAS NOT THE NOT THE FAMILY HISTORY LAW, BUT THE OTHER MORE I BELIEVE, BECAUSE I ASKED ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THE DISPLAY.

BUT ANYWAY, IT WOULD JUST BE A GOOD IDEA IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE LIBRARIAN SHE MAY NOT IDENTIFY AS HAVING A DISABILITY, BUT I KNOW SHE HAS ISSUES WITH HER FEET ALL THE TIME REQUIRING OPERATION.

SO SHE HAS BEEN IN A WHEELCHAIR AND DONE AS SHE WILL.

YEAH, SHE WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT COULD FILL THAT.

DEFINITELY. FOWLER'S REALLY TRICKY.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU.

THE TERRAIN CHANGES.

YOU'VE GOT ONE TRAIN IN THE PARKING LOT, ANOTHER TRAIN COMING UP, AND A THIRD TRAIN TO COME TO THE FRONT DOOR.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE AFRAID OF FALLING BECAUSE OF THE TRAIN CHANGE.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE PARK AND YOU'VE GOT A LOOSE GRAVEL, YOU'RE KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT GETTING A GOOD BALANCE.

AND YOU COME UP AND YOU'VE GOT ONE CHAIR.

AND IT'S NOT A CONSISTENT TERRAIN ACROSS THE LIBRARY.

IF YOU GO TO THE NORTH SOUTH BRANCH, IT'S A SAFE FROM THE PARKLANDS JUST THE SAME.

EMILY FOWLER YOU'VE GOT A DECORATIVE AREA AND SO YOU'VE GOT GRAVEL AND THINGS.

IF YOU'RE NOT A GOOD WALKER, IT'S A FULL HAZARD.

AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE AGE OF LIBRARY AND LANDSCAPING.

BUT VERY, VERY GOOD POINT.

AND IN ADDITION TO LOOK AT THE OUTSIDE, LOOK RETURNS.

THEY'RE HEAVY.

I KNOW A LOT OF EM.

YEAH. AND THE ONE IN THE FRONT IS REALLY AWKWARDLY LOCATED.

I GOT SMOKES WHEN I GO THERE.

OKAY. THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

WHICH ONE IS THAT? IT'S THE ONE IN THE FRONT.

YOU COMING FROM THE PARKING LOT? FROM THE PARKING LOT ON THE SIDE OF THE.

SO IT'S TO THE RIGHT OF THE ENTRANCE? YES. RIGHT.

THIS KIND OF RESET.

THOSE ARE GREAT CHAIRS THEY HAVE THERE AT THAT LIBRARY.

STURDY WHEELS, ARMS.

[01:10:02]

THEY DON'T MOVE OR SHIFT WHEN YOU MOVE BECAUSE TYPICALLY WITHOUT BALANCE, BE TRANSFERRING FROM WHEELCHAIR TO REGULAR CHAIR FROM WALK OR INTO YOUR MOOD.

THERE'S A MOVEMENT, SO YOUR INABILITY TO STAY STILL IN BALANCE AND UPRIGHT IS DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST HAVE SOMEWHERE.

WHEN YOU TRANSFER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FALL OUT OF.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE COMPUTER CENTERS TO TAKE PICTURES OF THAT, BUT IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE TIGHT SOMETIMES.

THE MEMBER WHO SENT ME THE PICTURES ONLY SENT ME OF ONE OF THE COMPUTER SECTIONS, BUT NOT THE ACTUAL.

YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COMPUTER ROOM WHERE THE.

THE LAST TIME I WAS IN THERE, IT FELT IMPERSONAL.

PERSONAL SPACE. OH, YEAH.

YEAH. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU THAT WAY.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY USED TO WEAR THE FAMILY HISTORY SECTION, WHICH IS NOW WHERE THE PUBLIC COMPUTERS ARE.

THEY USED TO HAVE A LOW COMPUTER STATION FOR SOMEONE THAT WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR.

AND I'M NOT POSITIVE.

I HAVEN'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T USE THAT AREA MUCH.

SO I'M NOT FOR SURE NOW THAT IT'S JUST A PUBLIC BANK OF COMPUTERS.

SO. BUT I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE DID STILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR SOMEONE. YEAH, I WILL NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THEM, BUT I DEFINITELY GET BACK TO THE ONE THING I CAN DO ALSO IS FOLLOWING UP WITH MY MEETING NEXT WEEK.

I COULD ALSO GIVE YOU ALL THE DETAILS OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED HERE.

THEN WHAT I GET FROM MY NOTE, AND THEN WE CAN ADD THOSE TOGETHER AND THEN I'LL WORK FROM THERE.

THAT'S NOT ALL RIGHT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO.

SORRY, I JUST KEEP TALKING.

BUT I AM. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO HAVE A LARGE PRINT CALENDARS ALSO FOR PEOPLE WITH LOW VISION? AND I MEAN JUST OVERALL IN GENERAL READABLE FONTS, THERE'S A LIST OF ADAPTIVE FONTS ON GOOGLE.

YOU CAN LOOK IT UP.

HOW IS THAT IN VARIETY? WELL, NO, JUST ADAPTIVE FONTS.

I MEAN, COMIC SANS TECHNICALLY IS ONE.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, YEAH, IT'S LIKE THE MOST.

BUT THERE'S OTHER ONES, AND WE EVEN HAVE A LIST OF ADAPTED FONTS.

YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO IF YOU NEED A LIST.

YEAH. THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR CALENDARS ARE DONE THROUGH A COMPANY.

WE SUBMIT THE INFORMATION AND THEY DISTRIBUTE.

BUT I.

I WOULD IMAGINE THERE WOULD BE AN OPTION TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT FORMATS OR EVEN JUST TO BE ALL ADAPTABLE.

SO OUR OBJECTIVES ARE OKAY.

IF ANYTHING POPS IN YOUR MIND, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND COME AT ME FOR IT BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE I WROTE IT DOWN.

AND THEN I JUST KIND OF GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT.

THE AUTHOR THAT YOU WERE IN CONTACT WITH FOR THE DISABILITY FRAMEWORK THAT YOU SAID THEY WRITE POETRY.

WHAT'S THE DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU TALKED TO ABOUT THAT OR DID YOU JUST TALK? I TALKED TO WHEN I SAW THIS DISPLAY, I'D ASKED DON ABOUT IT.

I SAID, WELL, THAT WAS A GREAT DISPLAY.

AND SHE SAID, OH, MAUD DID NOT LORD DOUGLASS, BUT THE OTHER WAR DID IT.

AND I SAID, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH IT.

BUT I SAID, I THINK THIS BOOK WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD ASSET.

AND HE'S A LOCAL AUTHOR.

YOU KNOW, LOOK, ALL GOOD IDEAS IS WHAT'S THE AUTHOR'S NAME? WELL, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING, IT WAS A QUESTION AND I THINK HE WROTE IT UNDER VA.

OH, HOW DOES HE SPELL THE TEMP? YEAH, THAT'S IT.

IS THAT THE ACCENT THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING? OKAY, WE'RE JUST.

YEAH, HE WAS JUST TELLING ME ABOUT.

YEAH, OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH. OH, YEAH.

[01:15:04]

ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO FALLING INTO TOP OF STAIRS AND THEN THE ENTRANCE.

YOU. WELL, THEY HAVE A NICE RAMP FOR ACCESS, SO.

YEAH. VERY CREATIVE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH IT.

EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS FOR. I GOT A LOT OF EMILY FOWLER PICTURES.

YOU SEE WHAT I SEE AS FAR AS THE TERRAIN CHANGES ROCKS IN SOME PLACES THAN THAT OTHER PLACES.

YOU'RE ALWAYS FIGHTING FOR BALANCE.

ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD JUST TOSS OUT.

BUT THEY KEEP THOSE DOORS THERE TO THE NOOK PERMANENTLY CLOSED, WHICH MEANS THAT IF YOU WANT TO GET THERE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LONG WALK AROUND THE ENTIRETY OF THE BUILDING.

REALLY? YEAH.

OH, YEAH.

I'M WONDERING WHY THAT IS.

BUT I WILL. LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING THAT'S COMMENTED ON AND I WOULD LOVE I WOULD GUESS IT JUST TO HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF ENTRANCE SO THAT THEY COULD MONITOR.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO COME UP THROUGH THERE AND HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, AND THEN I DIDN'T I DON'T REMEMBER THERE BEING ANY BACKS IN THE CHILDREN'S AREA THAT THE WHO WAS IT THAT THERE WAS SOME ORGANIZATION THAT THAT THOSE DOUBLE DOORS THEY GO OUT TO THAT AREA WHERE THEY HAVE CHILDREN'S STORYTIME AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS.

OH, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT.

I THINK I THINK THAT'S LITERALLY CALLED THE NOOK.

YEAH. YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY BACKSTAGE CHAIRS.

I DON'T REMEMBER ANY.

NO, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.

THOSE STONE INSTALLATIONS TAKEN.

YEAH. I THINK IT WAS A ROTARY CLUB.

AND THAT WAS A PROJECT.

OKAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES.

THAT'S OUR LOWER LEVEL WATER FOUNTAIN AND RESTROOM ENTRANCE.

IT'S SO EASY TO GET IN THERE.

YOU CAN ZOOM RIGHT IN YOUR.

YEAH. THAT WAS THE KIND OF ENTRANCE.

I STRUGGLED WITH THE WATER REFILLS.

YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND HAND.

YOU PUT YOUR WATER THERE.

YOU WANT ANOTHER HAND TO HOLD IT.

LIKE A LOT OF LIMBS AT WORK SO FAST.

I RAN FOR WATER REFILLS.

OH, THAT ONE WAS OKAY? YEAH. THAT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA.

YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS.

HERE. OKAY.

QUOTE. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS UPPER LEVEL REFERENCES.

AND THEN FROM THAT, WE'LL GET A LITTLE MORE LOOK INTO IT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

BUT. FROM THE.

AND THEN RIGHT OVER HERE, IT'S ONE OF THE COMPUTERS THAT YOU CAN CONTROL.

THAT'S ONE OF THE OPEN PUBLIC COMPUTERS THAT YOU SEE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE ROLLING PERIODS RIGHT THERE.

SO THEN THERE'S THE ENTRANCE OF THE RESTROOM.

SORRY, THAT'S OVER THERE.

HOW WIDE IS THAT HALLWAY GOING TO BE? IT'S KIND OF NARROW EVERY TIME YOU THINK YOU'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR.

CAN YOU ACCESS IT? IT WOULD BE AWKWARD JUST FOR ANGLE.

IT WOULD BE AWKWARD.

SO IF THE DOOR SWUNG OUT, IT WOULD COVER THAT HOLE.

WOW. I'VE NEVER TRIED THAT ONE.

WHAT IS LOCKED? A LOT. AND LIKE I SAID, INSIDE SURGERY ON HER FEET.

SHE'S HAD TO WORK IN A WHEELCHAIR, SO SHE WOULD PROBABLY SHE WOULDN'T KNOW SOMETHING SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO HAVE.

BUT THAT COMPUTER STATION LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S JUST ENOUGH SPACE AROUND.

YEAH. ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU CAN JUST SHOVE THAT CHAIR AWAY.

YEAH, IT'S EASY PEASY, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS A GREAT POINT. IF YOU'RE AN ELECTRICAL IF YOU CAN ZOOM RIGHT INTO THAT AREA THAT'S FACING BOTH SIDES TO GET TO.

[01:20:08]

CLINTON VOLUNTEER.

WHAT? YEAH.

THANKS SO MUCH. THAT IS KIND OF SHOCKING, ACTUALLY.

YEAH, IT WAS A BIG DEAL AT THE TIME, TOO.

IT SURE IS. THAT'S A HUGE DEAL.

YEAH. I MAKE SURE THAT UP HERE FOR THAT DIRECTOR SPECIFIC THING.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE END.

I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

GREAT. THAT'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

YOU'RE MOST WELCOME TO FOLLOW UP.

OR YOU SEE OR THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I DO HAVE MY COMMITTEE MEETING NEXT WEEK, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BRING BACK UP. AND AUTHOR'S NOTE SO I'LL JUST DO A KIND OF AN UPDATE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, AND I'LL MAKE SURE I PROVIDE THIS DOCUMENTATION WITH YOU GUYS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE IN THAT DATE IN SEPTEMBER PACKAN WE ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THE TRANSITION PLAN, KIND OF WHERE THAT PROJECT IS AT.

AND THIS, AS YOU GUYS REMEMBER, BECAUSE IT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, THEY DISCUSSED A LOT OF THE FACILITY UPDATES THAT WERE THAT WERE PART OF THEIR IDENTIFY PLAN AND PORTION AS PRIORITIZED.

SO MAYBE AS PART OF THAT OR MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF PULL IT OUT AND PREPARE WITH THE UPDATE THAT WE GAVE YOU, WE CAN PULL OUT THOSE LIBRARY RELATED ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS BEING AS.

NEEDING TO BE CORRECTED OR OTHERWISE MODIFIED TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE.

IS THAT INFORMATION SHARED WITH THEM? IT SEEMS LIKE SHE'S ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND MAYBE WE'RE ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN THAT.

SO A LOT OF WHAT'S ON THE BOARD IS VERY FACILITIES BASED.

SO IT IS SHARED WITH THEM, BUT IT IS THOUSANDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO JUST LIKE THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND SOME THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT I IMAGINE OR BROAD OR RIGHT, SO THINGS LIKE THE DOORWAY IS GETTING NARROW.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY WHERE YOU CAN GO AND DO ON THEIR OWN.

RIGHT. BUT THAT WOULD LIKELY BE IN THE IN THE REPORT.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN LOOK AT THAT FOR IF ANYTHING WAS MENTIONED HERE TODAY THAT'S NOT IN THAT REPORT.

BUT WE CAN WE CAN WORK TO GET THAT IN.

GOOD POINT. I CAN TAKE THAT REFERENCE AND I'M LOOKING AT MY PICTURE.

I WAS LIKE, OH, I SHOULD BE MORE CORRECT.

I'M SO SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THAT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YOU SO MUCH. YOU.

THE LIBRARY IS SO IMPORTANT.

AND SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

IT'S HUGE. THE CENTER OF SOCIETY.

IT'S JUST I MEAN, IT'S NOT EVEN A BIG DEAL.

JUST THINKING ABOUT COLOR.

THEY'RE COMING FOR YOU FOR THE KIND OF VISION YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME PARAMETERS FOR FLEXIBILITY BETWEEN SEPARATE CONTRASTING COLORS THAT YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN LIKE A LEVEL OF A FLOOR.

LIKE WHERE MAYBE THE STAIRS DROP OFF AND YOU CAN'T SEE ALL THE WAY OVER.

YOU CAN CHANGE SORT OF DIFFERENT AREAS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBLE TO YOUR GUESTS.

AND THEN ALSO NOT JUST CONSIDERING COLORS FOR ALL ABILITIES, SOME PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE PRETTY DISTRESSING TO PEOPLE WITH AUTISM OR ADHD.

YEAH, IT CAN BE OVERSTIMULATING.

EXCELLENT POINTS. YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

I THINK THIS CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION ON THE BLACKBOARD.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING YOUR.

REQUEST TO OUR COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. SO I THINK ARE WE ON E?

[E. Staff Update Memo 1. (Re)appointment of Committee Members 2. Committee Emails 3. Areas of Interest 4. Closed Captioning]

WOW. WE'RE LOOKING AT STAFF UPDATE MEMO.

THAT'S LET'S. HEY, IT'S JUST A QUICK NOTE FOR THE COMMITTEE.

IF YOU ARE IF YOU'RE YOUR PLACE ON THE COMMITTEE IS COMING UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE REAPPOINTED AS SECRETARY, ROSA HAS SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO YOUR CITY EMAIL ACCOUNT.

SO JUST MAKE SURE IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, I CAN CHECK FOR YOU AFTER THIS MEETING.

[01:25:04]

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT PROCESS IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO IF YOU IF YOU ARE UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT, YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE REAPPOINTED.

I RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET THAT EMAIL OR OTHERWISE GET A HOLD OF SECRETARY MAR TO LET HER KNOW THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED.

AND THEN AS ALWAYS, REMINDER COMMITTEE EMAILS, CHECK THEM MAYBE ONCE A WEEK, MAYBE ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S HOW WE TRY TO GET HOLD OF YOU GUYS TO SEE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ONE THING THAT WE DID LAST YEAR THAT'S COMING UP AROUND AGAIN IS WE ASK FOR THE COMMITTEES, AREAS OF INTEREST AND THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

SOME OF THE GREAT IDEAS WE GOT A YEAR AGO WERE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ACCESSIBILITY AND DISABILITIES.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT OUR SPECIAL EVENTS PROCESS AND THE TRANSITION PLAN WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO STEER THINGS TO THIS COMMITTEE AS BEST AS I CAN, BUT I DON'T SEE THINGS WITH THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMITTEE DO.

SO I REALLY RELY ON YOUR YOUR INPUT AND GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU WANT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD TO DISCUSS.

SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL HOLD AN INITIAL CONVERSATION AT OUR NEXT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WHERE I WILL GET SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE MOST OF OUR COMMITTEE SEATED AT THAT MEETING THAT WILL COME BACK IN NOVEMBER.

KIND OF BLESS IT, FINALIZE IT OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL GOOD AND WE'LL USE THAT TO CARRY FORWARD FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR.

KIND OF THE WHAT THE MAIN PRIORITIES ARE.

THIS COMMITTEE NOW, OF COURSE, AS YOU ALL SAW LAST TIME, YOU CAN ALWAYS AGREE AS A BODY TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS THING NEXT MEETING AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

BUT IT REALLY HELPS OUR PLANNING SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING THINGS TO YOU THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN OUR SEPTEMBER.

WILL WE REVIEW WHAT WE SAID IS PRIORITIES OF THIS YEAR AT THAT TIME? YEAH. WELL, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE SAID LAST YEAR AND WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO.

AND IF SOMETHING WE WEREN'T FOR WHATEVER REASON, ABLE TO GET TO IT, WE CAN ALWAYS CARRY THAT FORWARD.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S JUST WE'LL HAVE A NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

NOT EVERYONE WAS HERE LAST AUGUST, SO IT'LL BE GOOD TO TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, THE DISPOSITION.

NOW, ONCE YOU'VE BEEN REAPPOINTED, IT'S TWO YEARS.

SO BECAUSE WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, WE HAD LIKE ONE YEAR AND THEN SOME PEOPLE HAD TWO YEARS.

THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET ON AN ALTERNATING CYCLE, BUT.

CORRECT. SO NOW WHEN YOU'RE APPOINTED TO TWO YEAR TERM, UNLESS YOU'RE YOU HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY.

JUST THE ONLY OTHER MAIN UPDATE IS CLOSED CAPTIONING.

SO WE HAVE INSTALLED THE TECHNOLOGY REQUIRED FOR CLOSED CAPTIONING.

OUR CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE PERSONS ON THE COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE ON PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES MEETINGS WERE TESTING IT RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT BEGAN ON TUESDAY, I PULLED THAT UP AND I WAS GETTING LIVE CAPTIONS AND IT WAS PRETTY DANG ACCURATE, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. SO WE'RE TESTING THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THAT IT'S GOOD TO GO HERE SOON.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT THIS COMMITTEE EARLY ON PUSHED FOR RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNCIL.

WE GOT THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION FOR IT, HIT A SNAG WITH THE TECHNOLOGY WHEN WE HAD A LOT OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES SO THAT IN ANOTHER COUNCIL PROJECT GOT PUSHED BACK.

LUCKILY, WE GOT EVERYTHING IMPLEMENTED HERE IN MAY, TESTING IT THROUGH JUNE AND JULY AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN LAUNCH THE LONG TIME COMING.

BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GERMINATED FROM THIS THIS COMMITTEE, AND IT'S ABOUT TO COME TO FRUITION.

AND THEN OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, RIGHT HERE AT 3 P.M..

THAT'S MY THING. THANK YOU.

SO I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT TO.

5 SECONDS.

9:34 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.