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AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

[WORK SESSION]

IT IS 2 P.M.

ON AUGUST THE 16TH.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA FROM CITIZENS.

THAT TAKES US TO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REGARDING THIS AGENDA.

[2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda.]

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

COUNCILOR. WHAT'S. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST A QUESTION OF PROCESS ON INDIVIDUAL ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 7AI WATCHED THE LAST YEAR'S MEETING OF THE SELECTION OF THE CRC AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NOMINATIONS, SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE FOR THAT.

IS IT GOING TO BE A NOMINATION OF A SLATE? IS IT GOING TO BE A NOMINATION OF AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON? EXACTLY. HOW DO WE FORESEE THAT GOING? I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GOT INTO THE AGENDA ITEM AT THE MEETING.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ALL. ALL RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, ARE WE JUST CONSIDERING ONE PERSON OR IS IT AND I THINK IN THE END IT WAS THERE WAS A NOMINATION, THE NOMINATIONS WERE OF THE SLATE OF MEMBERS AND THEN THEY WERE VOTED UP OR DOWN.

SO JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO JUST RESTRICT OURSELVES TO I THINK CHAIRWOMAN ELLIS IS BEING TERMED OUT, BUT WE'RE NOT JUST RESTRICTED TO JUST REPLACING HER.

IF THIS COUNCIL SO CHOSE, THEY COULD NOMINATE ANY SLATE OF MEMBERS FOR THE PNC, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, AT THIS POINT THERE'S ONLY ONE SEAT BECAUSE THE REMAINING MEMBERS THAT SERVE ON THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE, THEIR TERMS DO NOT END UNTIL 2023.

SO THERE ARE THREE YEAR TERMS TO YOUR TERM, THEIR TWO YEAR TERM.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. WELL, THAT'S DISAPPOINTING.

I JUST BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE MEMBERS WAS APPOINTED LAST YEAR UNDER SORT OF A FALSE PRETENSE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO DISCLOSURE.

SO I'LL GET INTO THAT OUT IN THE MEETING.

BUT. OKAY, SO WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ONE AT ONE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE? NONE. I DO HAVE A.

I GUESS, ROSA, IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT ON CONSENT AGENDA B, I'M NOT GOING TO PULL IT, BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPOINTEE IS ON P AND Z.

COMMISSIONER MCDADE AND SO MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH P AND Z COMING UP? YES, WE DO. OKAY.

I'LL TALK TO YOU, MA'AM. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? IF YOU DON'T? NO PROBLEM.

DON'T WRITE THAT. OKAY, GREAT.

YEAH. NO, I'LL JUST SAY THIS.

SO THAT'S. THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY QUESTIONS.

I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. BUT SO I'LL SAY THIS.

I WAS TEMPTED TO PULL THIS, BUT I'LL TAKE UP MY ISSUE WITH COMMISSIONER MCDADE IN THAT MEETING DIRECTLY.

BUT I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DECORUM AND WE TALK ABOUT CITIZENS, WE HAVE TO MODEL THAT.

AND SO COMMISSIONER MCDADE IS TAKING IT UPON HIMSELF TO SAY LESS THAN GREAT THINGS ABOUT ME IN THE P AND Z MEETINGS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PULL IT TO VOTE NO.

I'M GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION DIRECTLY WITH HIM DURING THAT JOINT MEETING.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT I ALSO SAY TO MY PEERS, TO YOUR APPOINTEES, THERE'S A PROCESS BY WHICH THEY CAN WORK THROUGH STAFF TO GET MESSAGES TO US.

OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN MEET WITH US DIRECTLY, BUT I THINK TO AT THE DAIS BESMIRCH ANYONE.

WE'RE ALL WORKING HARD TOGETHER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IF WE DISAGREE, THAT'S GREAT.

LET'S DISAGREE CIVILLY.

BUT LET'S LET'S SET A LET'S BE GOOD ROLE MODELS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT THE CITIZENS TO RESPECT US, WE SHOULD HAVE FORMAL CONVERSATIONS AND CIVIL CONVERSATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN A GROUP SUCH IN A FORMAT SUCH THAT THAT IS THEY CAN THEY CAN CONTACT THE STAFF MEMBER, THEY CAN CONTACT THE ELECTED DIRECTLY.

THERE'S THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO TO COMPORT YOURSELF.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION POINT OF INFORMATION THAT I'M SORRY REFORMATION STATE YOUR INQUIRY IS I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY INFORMATION THAT'S TUESDAY OCTOBER 18.

OKAY WHEN THAT MEETING IS COMING UP.

THANK YOU, OK.

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the City of Denton ordinance and guidelines in issuing utility bill payment agreements. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time : 45 minutes]]

THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION ITEM, WHICH IS.

ADDED 221534 RECEIVED REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION GIFTS STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CITY OF DENTON ORDINANCE AND GUIDELINES IN ISSUING UTILITY BILL PAYMENT AGREEMENTS.

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MAYOR COUNCIL CRYSTAL FOSTER, CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER I'M COMING IN TODAY JUST TO SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR PAY AGREEMENT GUIDELINES.

AS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE BEEN VERY LAX WITH A LOT OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WHILE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH SOME VERY CHALLENGING TIMES.

AND AS WE BEGAN PREPARING TO GO BACK TO MORE NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE'VE SEEN CHANGES IN PEOPLE'S HOME LIVES.

WE'VE SEEN CHANGES IN PEOPLE'S ECONOMIC STATUSES, EVEN WITH JUST THE COST OF INFLATION.

SO WE WERE JUST REVIEWING THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAD IN PLACE AND LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR GUIDELINES ARE.

THEY'VE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2010.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK THAT I RECEIVE FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION.

SO THE FIRST THING IS OUR CURRENT GUIDELINES, CITY ORDINANCE ACTUALLY REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE APPROVED GUIDELINES ON FILE WITH THE CITY SECRETARY THAT ARE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO WHEN WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR CHANGE, WE NEED TO COME THROUGH THE FULL PROCESS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FIVE DAY ARRANGEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW A CUSTOMER FIVE DAYS PAST THEIR INTERRUPTION DATE AND THEY CAN HAVE ONE ARRANGEMENT OF THIS TYPE EVERY SIX MONTHS. WE ALSO HAVE A MULTI MONTH ARRANGEMENT.

SO IF A CUSTOMER HAS A REALLY HIGH BILL, MAYBE THEY'VE HAD A LEAK, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

WE CAN COLLECT 50% OF THE OUTSTANDING BALANCE AND WE CAN SET THEM ON AN ARRANGEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW THEM UP TO THREE MONTHS TO PAY EQUAL INSTALLMENTS ON THOSE BILLS, AND THEY CAN HAVE THAT ARRANGEMENT ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS.

SO THE FIRST AREA OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WE IDENTIFIED IS A FIVE DAY BUSINESS.

BUSINESS DAY EXTENSION FROM THE DATE OF INTERRUPTION IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER.

THAT'S OUR DATE THAT'S NOT PUBLISHED ANYWHERE ON THEIR BILLS OR SOMEWHERE THAT THEY CAN EASILY FIND.

AND IT ALSO REQUIRES HAND CALCULATION OF THOSE DATES ARE GOING OUTSIDE OF THE BILLING SYSTEM TO LOOK FOR WHAT DATES THOSE ARE GOING TO BE.

SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE THE DUE DATE OF AN EXTENSION TO MATCH THE DUE DATE OF THEIR CURRENT BILL.

THAT WAY, THE SAME DATE IS PRINTED ON THE BILL THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE, AND IT ONLY ALLOWS UP TO TWO CALENDAR DAYS LONGER THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY.

SO THE RISK OF DOING IT IS VERY MINIMAL.

BUT THE OUTCOME FOR THE CUSTOMER AND BEING SUCCESSFUL WITH REMEMBERING THOSE DATES IS MUCH HIGHER.

OUR AREA OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WE ALSO IDENTIFIED WAS THAT WE WANT OUR PAY ARRANGEMENT PROCESS TO OFFER OUR CUSTOMERS FLEXIBILITY AND HELP WHEN THEY NEED IT.

SO WE WANT TO HELP THEM REDUCE FEES AND WE WANT TO ALSO PREVENT THEM FROM GROWING BALANCES THAT ARE INSURMOUNTABLE TO GET BACK TO CURRENT.

SO RIGHT NOW, OUR PROGRAM LIMITS THE NUMBER OF NEEDS THAT THEY CAN HAVE RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THE CUSTOMER ACCOUNTABILITY AND FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE ARRANGEMENTS THAT ARE BEING SET.

SO WE'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE ALLOW YOU TO GET AN ARRANGEMENT ANY TIME YOU NEED IT, AS LONG AS YOU ARE FULFILLING THOSE ARRANGEMENTS.

FULFILLED ARRANGEMENTS DON'T CREATE ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD FOR STAFF.

DEFAULTED ARRANGEMENTS ARE WHAT? CREATE ADDITIONAL TIME AND EFFORT FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS OF STAFF.

AND THEN OUR THIRD RECOMMENDATION OR AREA OF OPPORTUNITY IS THE HAVING TO GO THROUGH FULL COUNCIL PROCESS.

SO WHEN WE IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT MAYBE CAN BETTER SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL PROCESS TWICE, ONCE TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ONCE TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE ORDINANCE INDICATE THAT WE MUST HAVE GUIDELINES ON FILE.

THEY MUST BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.

THEY HAVE TO BE ON FILE WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

THEY HAVE TO BE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS TO BE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO CHANGES BEING IMPLEMENTED.

SO THAT WAY, AS LONG AS EVERYONE IS GOOD WITH THOSE CHANGES, THEY CAN BE MADE IN A MORE EFFICIENT MANNER.

BUT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THOSE INTO THE FULL COUNCIL PROCESS IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED.

SO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING IS, AGAIN, AT ANY TIME, A CUSTOMER COULD HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT OF EITHER A LONG OR SHORT TERM TYPE THAT A SHORT TERM ARRANGEMENT THEY CAN GET AT ANY TIME THEIR DUE DATE WOULD MATCH THEIR CURRENT BILL, A LONG TERM ARRANGEMENT THEY CAN REQUEST AT ANY TIME.

THE DUE DATE MATCHES THE CURRENT BILL.

IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE 50% OF THE BALANCE UP FRONT AND THE THREE EQUAL PAYMENTS OVER TIME TO ALLOW THAT CUSTOMER THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET CAUGHT UP ON THOSE BILLS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT WE WOULD DO A TEMPORARY INELIGIBILITY IF A CUSTOMER FAILS TO PAY AGREEMENT COMMITMENTS IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD OF TIME,

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THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A ONE YEAR PERIOD WHERE THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO SET ARRANGEMENTS, STARTING WITH THE DATE OF THE SECOND DEFAULTED ARRANGEMENT.

THAT WAY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT PENALTY IF YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THOSE COMMITMENTS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SUSTAIN THE ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD THAT IS POTENTIAL WITH OFFERING THESE MORE OFTEN.

AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS, INCREASE ACCESS TO OUR CUSTOMERS WHO NEED IT, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE PLAN IN PLACE, AND BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS MORE QUICKLY.

AS WE SEE THE NEED FOR CHANGE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.

ONE IS TO UPDATE THE AGREEMENTS AND TO THE GUIDELINES, AND THE SECOND IS TO UPDATE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW US TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT DETRIMENT TO THE PROCESS OF HAVING COUNCIL INPUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. QUESTION COMES FROM DAVIS.

MY QUESTION IS ABOUT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE.

AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE KNOW HOW SOME OF THE OTHER FULL SERVICE CITIES HANDLE THESE THESE ISSUES, BECAUSE WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE OFTEN CONTACTED MORE AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF DMAE THAN FOR ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE THAN WE ARE BEING CONTACTED AS MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

SURE. AND WE HAVE A PRETTY DIRECT LINE TO OUR CONSTITUENCY, WHICH IS ALSO OUR CUSTOMER BASE, OF COURSE.

SO HOW DOES SOME OTHER CITIES THAT ARE SITUATED LIKE US HANDLE THOSE KIND OF POLICY CHANGES? I WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE ONES THAT DO ELECTRIC, BECAUSE I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT DIRECTLY FOR YOU.

I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE AREA CITIES DON'T HAVE THOSE GUIDELINES IN ORDINANCE.

THEY ARE JUST LIKE AN INTERNAL DEPARTMENTAL POLICY.

BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT FOR OTHERS THAT PROVIDE MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY MY ONLY AREA OF CONCERN.

IT'S NOT GREAT CONCERN, SURE.

BUT ALSO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING THAT IS SLATED TO GO THROUGH A COUNCIL APPROVAL PROCESS AND SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE CITY MANAGER'S WHEELHOUSE THAT THEN CITY COUNCIL HAS TO IF THEY WANT IF WE WANT TO MAKE A POLICY CHANGE.

WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE COUNCIL'S PURVIEW.

THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER'S PURVIEW.

NOW THAT IT'S IN POLICY AND NOT ORDINANCE OR NOT, THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS PRIMARY DISCRETION OVER THE POLICY.

SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY.

THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS I'M FINE WITH.

OUTSTANDING. ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SO THE HOW DO YOU ENVISION IMPLEMENTING THE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE'S IN ARREARS THEY PAID A 50%.

IS THAT. MONTH, ONE QUOTE UNQUOTE.

AND THEN THERE'S THREE MONTHS AFTER THAT WHERE THAT OTHER HALF IS DIVIDED OUT.

SO JANUARY I COME UP WITH 50% PAY.

THAT FEBRUARY I'D PAY A THIRD OF WHAT'S REMAINING.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY. THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN.

JUST ONE TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T STACKING THOSE.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THE 50% IS REALLY SO THAT THAT MONTH, ONE IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE NOT GOING WITH NO PAYMENT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING TO CATCH UP, THEY NEED TO PAY A PORTION OF THAT BILL.

RIGHT. SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM THE BEST CHANCE OF BEING ABLE TO FULFILL THE REMAINING PAYMENTS.

GOT IT. AND THEN THAT REMAINING HALF WOULD BE DIVIDED.

THAT'S THE PART THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THEIR NEW BILL, THEIR UPDATED BILL, AND A THIRD OF WHAT'S REMAINING.

THAT IS CORRECT. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER BET.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO BACK TO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE.

CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE BEING NOTIFIED AND ABLE TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER, HOW IS IT REALLY ANY DIFFERENT OTHER THAN STICKING THE CITY MANAGER IN THE IN THE TELEPHONE GAME? SO WE ACTUALLY DO THE SAME TYPE OF PROCESS FOR I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT IS.

NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE DID THE SAME THING, MAYBE LIKE ADJUSTMENTS.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE WOULD DETERMINE WHAT TYPES OF CHANGES MAY BE NECESSARY.

AND WHEN WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS LIKE THIS, IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THIS.

AND THAT'S CONSIDERING LIKE IF WE HAVE THE TIME TO LIKE WORK ON GOING THROUGH PREPARING EVERYTHING RIGHT THEN FOR LIKE ADJUSTMENTS.

IT TOOK US ALMOST A YEAR TO BE ABLE TO GET TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE SCHEDULES.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE WOULD DEVELOP THOSE THINGS.

WE WOULD DRAFT THE NEW GUIDELINES, GET APPROVAL THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, PLACE THAT IN A FRIDAY REPORT WITH THE FULL DRAFT OF IT SO THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY.

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THESE ARE NOT OK AND THEN YOU CAN PULL THEM BACK IN OR I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE DIFFERENTLY.

SO IF COUNCIL IS IN FULL AGREEMENT THAT THEY'RE OK THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE DELAYS IN GETTING AN IMPACTFUL CHANGE MADE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

SO IT'S A IT'S POST FACTO, WE'RE WE WOULD BE MANAGING AFTER THE FACT.

IT WOULDN'T BE LIVE.

THE CHANGES WOULD NOT BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL AFTER THAT.

SO IF IT WENT OUT ONE WEEK, THEY WOULDN'T GO OUT UNTIL A WEEK LATER AND BECOME EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THERE WOULD NOT BE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE INVOLVEMENT PRIOR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION. I WANT TO ENSURE THAT, I MEAN, COUNCIL'S INPUT INTO THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE THAT.

I WANT THAT TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.

BUT I ALSO WANT US TO BE ABLE TO ACT MORE QUICKLY WITH CHANGES THAT CAN IMPACT OUR CUSTOMERS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BUT OK. SO COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S REAL QUICK? YOU MENTIONED LADY JASMINE. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

BECAUSE I READ THAT. ALL RIGHT.

ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE IT SAYS ON PAGE FIVE OF THE PRESENTATION LIMIT PROGRAM ACCESS DUE TO DEFAULT ARRANGEMENTS, NOT THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS.

SO LET'S SAY I'M AN INDIVIDUAL UTILITY USER.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS I CAN MAKE THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS AND THEY COULD EITHER BE APPROVED OR DENIED.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING NOW IT'S BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS NOW, BUT YOU WANT TO BASE IT ON THE NUMBER OF ARRANGEMENTS, ON THE NUMBER OF DEFAULTED ARRANGEMENTS DEFAULTED? CORRECT. SO CURRENTLY CUSTOMERS ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO REQUEST UP TO TWO ARRANGEMENTS EVERY SIX MONTHS.

WE HAVE CUSTOMERS IN COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD.

THIS IS WHERE I MISSPOKE LAST TIME BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OF THE PROGRAM I HAD BEEN WORKING ON.

SO WHEN WE HAVE A CUSTOMER WHO IS ON A SET PAY DATE, THEY MAY NOT WANT TO GO TO BUDGET BILLING, THEY MAY NOT WANT TO GO TO PREPAID.

THEY COULD CALL EACH MONTH AND GET THAT ARRANGEMENT SO THAT THEY DON'T ACCRUE LATE FEES AND IT WOULD GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AS LONG AS THEY'RE MEETING IT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY CREATING ANY ADDITIONAL BURDEN TO US.

IT'S WHEN THOSE ARRANGEMENTS ARE DEFAULTED AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT A 39% DEFAULT RATE.

WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT ACTING ON THE BEHAVIOR.

WE'RE ACTING ON THE NEED TO REQUEST.

SO I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE HEALTHY IS THE CUSTOMER HAS A NEED.

THEY CAN REQUEST AS MANY AS THEY NEED, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT FULFILLING THEM, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD LIMIT YOUR ACCESS TO HAVE THEM.

AND IT'S TOO.

IS IT TOO? CURRENTLY IT IS TO SIX MONTHS.

ONE THEY CAN GET ONE FIVE DAY ARRANGEMENT AND THEY CAN GET ONE MULTI MONTH ARRANGEMENT.

AND YOU'RE YOU'RE SUGGESTING YOU'RE PROPOSING OR YOU'RE ASKING US, ARE YOU CHANGING THAT? I'M I'M SUGGESTING THAT THEY CAN GET ONE ARRANGEMENT, ACTIVE ARRANGEMENT AT ANY TIME OF EITHER TYPE IF THEY NEED IT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE FULFILLING THEM. MAGUIRE.

SO THEN HOW IS IT HANDLED UNDER UNDER THE NEW SYSTEM WHEN A CUSTOMER DOES DEFAULT? SO IT WOULD BE HANDLED THE SAME WAY IT IS TODAY.

SO IF A CUSTOMER DEFAULTS, THEY WOULD GO BACK INTO BEING ELIGIBLE FOR INTERRUPTION, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS AND ALL OF THE BALANCES THAT WERE PROTECTED ARE ARE NOW DUE, THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE.

BUT WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE ARRANGEMENTS WHEN THEY NEED THEM.

OK OKAY. SO AND IS IT CURRENTLY THE POLICY THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE THE LONGER ARRANGEMENTS, THE THREE MONTH ARRANGEMENTS, THAT IF SOMEONE HAS DEFAULTED ON A PREVIOUS ARRANGEMENT, THAT THEY CAN'T GET ANOTHER ONE? IS THAT EVER OR IS THAT UNTIL THEY HAVE REPAID SO THE BALANCE OF THE PREVIOUS CURRENTLY THEY WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE TO GET ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT ON THAT ANYWAY.

TYPICALLY, IF THEY'VE DEFAULTED, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THAT SAME ARRANGEMENT OR THAT SAME BALANCE BACK ON AN ARRANGEMENT BECAUSE THE RISK IS THERE NOW.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT INTERNALLY, LIKE IF WE FOUND AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE CAN DOCUMENT WELL, WE UNDER THE NEW GUIDELINES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, WE COULD POTENTIALLY WORK WITH THEM.

AND THEN IF THEY DEFAULTED THE SECOND, THAT WOULD BE THEIR SECOND DEFAULT.

OK YEAH, I THINK IN LIGHT OF ALL THAT, I'M COMFORTABLE GIVING DIRECTION TO FOLLOW ALL THREE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO RECOMMENDATION THREE.

I'D LOVE FOR IT TO BE JUST A WORK SESSION RATHER RATHER THAN A A FRIDAY REPORT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE INPUT.

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BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE APPROVING THE ORDINANCE AND THEN VOTING ON THE ORDINANCE, IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING AND IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE PERFECTLY TIMED WITH WHEN WE HAVE OUR WORK SESSION, BUT AT LEAST MAYBE THERE'S AN ANNUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GIVE INPUT.

YEAH. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M QUITE COMFORTABLE GIVING DIRECTION TO PROCEED WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ONE AND TWO.

I THINK, GIVEN MY HESITANCE, MY RETICENCE IS GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF, AS COUNCILOR DAVIS SAID, THE AMOUNT OF CUSTOMER FEEDBACK THAT WE REALLY I MEAN, WHETHER WE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT, THE PRACTICAL ISSUE IS WE ARE PART OF THE CUSTOMER FEEDBACK TEAM.

SURE. AND COUNCILORS ARE OFTEN ELECTED ON HOW THEY'RE LIKELY TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS OR NOT.

SO THAT IS THE WORLD THAT WE FIND OURSELVES LIVING IN.

AND. AND I THINK.

I THINK. YEAH, I THINK, I GUESS I'LL GIVE RECOMMENDATION TO, TO GO AHEAD WITH THREE BUT I AS MUCH LEAD TIME AND AS MUCH I KIND OF LIKE COUNCILOR MCGUIRE'S WORK SESSION IDEA THAT PUTS A LITTLE BIT EXTRA BURDEN.

I REALIZE THAT IT'S KIND OF TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE STREAMLINING THAT YOU WERE SEEKING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE VERY OFTEN IN DISAGREEMENT WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF INTERACTION THAT THAT WE END UP GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND EXPLAINING THE POLICY AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS DO.

WELL, MAYBE NOT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE HANDLING THE PHONE CALLS, BUT LET'S LET'S SAY A LOT.

WE'RE EXPLAINING THE POLICIES A LOT.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP BE HELPFUL IF WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE FOLLOWING SORT OF THAT DIALOG MECHANISM.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE OTHER DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN BECAUSE I'M OK IF WE HAVE KIND OF A MODIFIED THREE THAT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AROUND THE TABLE, I WANT TO BE IN THE BEST POSITION POSSIBLE, INCLUDING INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER CITIES TO EXPLAIN NOT JUST THE ACTIONS OF STAFF, BUT THE INTENTIONS AND MOTIVATIONS OF STAFF.

BECAUSE TOO OFTEN WE HEAR FROM ONE PERSON OR ANOTHER THAT POLICIES ARE TOO STRICT OR TOO LOOSE, AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, NO, I WAS AT THE TABLE.

I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE FRONT LINES, AND I KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING THAT.

AND I GIVE IT MY OWN STAMP OF APPROVAL BECAUSE I'VE BEEN READ INTO THE SITUATION SO THE BEST WE CAN BE TO HOW WE CAN BEST BE EQUIPPED TO DO THAT.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PART OF OUR ROLE UP HERE ON THE DYAS TOO, SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? KATHRYN WATSON.

CLARIFICATION ON THE SORT OF MODIFIED THAT'S SORT OF BEEN PROPOSED.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND, COUNCILOR MAGUIRE, WHEN YOU SAY A WORK SESSION.

YOU MEAN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, SORT OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW? THAT WAS MY INTENTION.

YEAH. I MEAN, I FELT LIKE THAT WAS MAYBE A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF LETTING STAFF BE A LITTLE BIT MORE NIMBLE AND IMPLEMENT NEW POLICIES AS THEY BECOME NECESSARY WHILE STILL GIVING COUNSEL KIND OF A BIG PICTURE LEVEL OF INPUT.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IF THERE IF THERE IS A TIME WHEN THE CITY MANAGER FEELS SHE NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND THERE'S NO TIME TO BRING IT BEFORE COUNCIL. AND SHE GOES AHEAD AND IMPLEMENTS A POLICY AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO US IN A WORK SESSION WE CAN TALK ABOUT IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT POLICY GOING FORWARD, WHAT NEW POLICIES WE MIGHT IMPLEMENT NEXT YEAR.

JUST TO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MAKE THE TIMELINE A LITTLE EASIER ON STAFF, I GUESS.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS COMING BEFORE US ON A WORK SESSION BEFORE YOU IMPLEMENT IT, WHICH IS SORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WHICH WOULD NOT BE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. IT WOULD GIVE ME HALF OF HALF OF THE TIME BACK SO I WOULDN'T BE HURT IF I'M GETTING ADDITIONAL LEAD TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET THINGS OUT MORE QUICKLY TO TO MY CUSTOMERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK CUSTOMER SERVICE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH EITHER RECOMMENDATION THREE AS IT IS OR AS COUNCILMEMBER MAGUIRE HAD BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK TO EDUCATE YOU ON WHAT OUR PURPOSES AND WHY PRIOR TO MAKING IT GO LIVE.

JUST AS AN INFORMATIVE.

YEAH, I MEAN I THINK I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THAT.

I GUESS I'M A LITTLE HESITANT ON JUST THE CART BLOCK NATURE OF IT BECAUSE IF WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT IN CUSTOMER SERVICE UTILITIES TO HELP COMPRESS THINGS, THEN WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT SOMETIMES NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABILITY TO CHANGE, TO QUICKLY CHANGE TO TO THE TIME.

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SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I JUST I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE CHANGES AHEAD OF TIME JUST BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SEVEN PEOPLE HERE THAT ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS, DIFFERENT APPROACHES, DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT THEY RUN IN THAT CAN PROVIDE.

I THINK, I THINK SOME INPUT.

I WISH I'D HAVE HAD SOME INPUT ON THE LEAK DETECTION BECAUSE I'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.

SO BUT THAT'S GONE AND THAT THAT TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION.

BUT SO I'M OKAY WITH THE MODIFIED AND MAYBE WE CAN DO IT AS A HYBRID AS HAS BEEN SUGGESTED.

AND THEN IF IT'S GOING OC THEN FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE MAYBE TO GIVE IT CARTE BLANC.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT I'M OKAY WITH THE HYBRID SUGGESTION.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I'LL JUST SAY I'M FINE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS IS WITHOUT THE MODIFIED.

I THINK FOR ME THE FEEDBACK I RECEIVE IS AFTER THE FACT.

RIGHT. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO FURTHER COMPOUND THAT BY SLOWING DOWN THINGS.

IF WE NEED TO ACT, IF THERE'S AN OBVIOUS ERROR, THERE'S AN OBVIOUS CHANGE THAT BENEFITS THE CUSTOMERS.

I DON'T WANT IT. I DON'T WANT IT TO HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK OR FIVE DAYS, WHATEVER.

LET'S LET'S DO THOSE THINGS.

AND THEN ALSO, IF IT COMES BACK TO WORK SESSION AND THEN WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT THEN ARE COUNTER TO THAT, WHAT A NIGHTMARE THAT IS.

LAST WEEK WE WERE DOING THIS, LAST THREE WEEKS WE WERE DOING THIS.

NOW WE'RE ON AN AGENDA. NOW, THESE NEXT THREE WEEKS, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IT JUST THAT THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INFORMATION, I JUST WE HAD WE HIRED DELOITTE TOUCHE, WHICH IS THE SIGNIFICANT ENTITY THAT CAME AND SAID, HEY, HERE'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WITH YOUR WATER BILLING.

AND IT WAS IGNORED. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US THE PREDICTABILITY THAT WE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES, DIFFERENT DECISION MAKING PROCESSES.

BUT ULTIMATELY, I DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S PRODUCTIVE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE.

WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM IS PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT ROLE 8 HOURS A DAY, TALKING TO THEM, UNDERSTANDING THIS AT THAT LEVEL.

BECAUSE, AGAIN, THERE'S NEVER I'VE NEVER ONCE RECEIVED THE PHONE CALL FROM SOMEONE SAID, HEY, I WAS LOOKING OVER THE UTILITY RULES AND THOUGHT THIS, RIGHT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS.

IT'S I GOT MY BILL AND I'M ANGRY AND THEN YOU'RE WORKING IT BACKWARDS.

SO AND THEN I CAN SAY I HAVE NO IDEA HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS, BUT I'LL GET YOU CONNECTED WITH SOMEONE WHO DOES.

SO ULTIMATELY IT CIRCLES BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT ALL THE TIME.

AND SO I TAKE THE I TAKE THE ADVICE OF THE CONSULTANT THAT CONDUCTED OUR OUR WORK SESSION, IF YOU WILL, AND THEY SAID FOCUS ON OUTCOMES.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S MY FOCUS IS AND I THINK THE BEST OUTCOME FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THE CITIZENS IS TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOES IT EVERY DAY AND SOMEONE THAT MANAGES THE CITY EVERY DAY INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THOSE DECISIONS.

AND MY OUTCOME IS TO MAKE SURE OUR RATES ARE LOW, MAKE SURE YOU'RE RESPONSIVE, MAKE SURE YOU'RE ANSWERING PHONE CALLS, TIMELY, THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO FOCUS AND TAKE YOUR GUIDANCE ON THAT.

SO THAT'S MY AS WRITTEN IS WHAT I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR.

OR BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY IF I WERE TO ZERO IN ON SOMETHING, IF STAFF MAKES A DECISION AND EXECUTES ON THAT AND THEN.

THIS COUNCIL COMES BACK AND WALKS THAT BACK.

THAT'S A NIGHTMARE.

THAT'S THREE WEEKS OF SOMETHING AND THEN THREE WEEKS OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR WHATEVER THAT THAT TIME FRAME IS.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN ANYONE'S BEST INTEREST.

SO THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE.

OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

I DON'T KNOW. NO.

OK. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MCGEE. OK.

YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION AND YOU NEED ONE MORE.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW FOR SURE WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO GO WITH RECOMMENDATION THREE.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH STATS RECOMMENDATION AS IS ON ALL THREE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OK WELL.

AT THE WORK SESSION.

THREE FOUR NETWORKS SEE THIS.

IF EVERYONE JUST JUST SPEAK WITH JUST COUNCIL MEMBER.

MR. MAYOR, I DIDN'T SPEAK BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GATHER THE INFORMATION ON WHAT EACH ONE OF US WOULD PREFER TO DO.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH NOT NECESSARILY HAVING AN ADDITIONAL WORK SESSION, SO I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT MY OPINION, MY THOUGHTS IN THE RING FOR US TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS RECOMMENDATION THREE.

SO I'M I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BRING US TO A POINT WHERE YOU ALL CAN MOVE FORWARD.

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GOT IT. YEAH, I THINK.

DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED, YOU GUYS TO BE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE.

SO RIGHT NOW I HEAR THREE, THREE THAT ARE JUST GO AHEAD WITH THREE, BUT THEN THE OTHERS ARE MORE MODIFIED.

IS THAT CORRECT OR AM I MISSING? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO.

AND I WILL SEE YOU AGAIN IN A FEW WEEKS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the preliminary FY 2022-23 Proposed Budget, Tax Rate, Capital Improvement Program and Five-Year Financial Forecast. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 1 hour]]

THANK YOU. TAKES US TO ITEM B, ADD TO 21674 RECEIVE REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION.

REGARDING THE PRELIMINARY FY 2020 223 PROPOSED BUDGET TAX RATE CAP IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AND FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL FORECASTS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL. CASSIE OGDEN, CFO.

HAPPY TO BE BACK.

SORRY I MISSED THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU.

SO JUST A RECAP.

WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER SOME PRIOR DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

TALK ABOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK.

LOOK AT THE UPDATED GENERAL FUND FORECASTS AND THEN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

SO AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP ON AUGUST SIX, WE RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO FUND TIER FOUR.

WE HAD PREVIOUSLY FUNDED TIERS ONE THROUGH THREE AT A $0.01 TAX RATE DECREASE FROM THE CURRENT TAX RATE.

SO FUNDING TIER FOUR, WE WERE ABLE TO FUND TIER FOUR WITH ONLY A HALF CENT INCREASE OVER WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

WE DID FOLLOW UP WITH A MEMO FROM ALL OF THE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAD.

IT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR BACKUP FOR THIS ITEM.

YOU SAW THIS AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, BUT WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO TAKE THE KEY FOCUS AREAS THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED IN JUNE AS A BASIS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE THE SIX AREAS WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON AND MANY OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS ARE MEANT TO TO FOCUS ON THOSE KEY AREAS.

SO AGAIN, JUST A RECAP OF THE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS ASSUMPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET.

PREVIOUSLY, WE WERE RECOMMENDING A 3% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR CITY STAFF BASED ON THE FEEDBACK OF THE WORKSHOP.

WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO A 4% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR WITH A 2% ONE TIME MERIT INCREASE AND WE HAVE 3% PROGRAMED AT FOR FUTURE YEARS IN THE IN THE PROFORMA.

WE ARE UNDERGOING A COMPENSATION STUDY.

WE'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED AT THE MIDDLE OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN THE BUDGET PROGRAM FOR ANY CHANGES THAT MAY COME OUT OF THAT STUDY.

WE HAVE NO CHANGES TO OUR HEALTH INSURANCE OR INCREASES TO EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION RATES FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.

WE ARE INCREASING OUR HTML, HTML, CSS RATE TO 18.15%.

SO AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP, OUR VALUES CAME IN VERY STRONG THIS YEAR, 19% INCREASE FROM PREVIOUS YEAR.

SO OUR TOTAL REVISED TAX RATE IS 0.560682.

SO IT'S AN OVERALL DECREASE OF A HALF PERCENT FROM THE CURRENT THE CURRENT TAX RATE SALES TAX ASSUMPTIONS.

WE HAVE 5% ABOVE THE ESTIMATE FOR FY 22 PROGRAMED IN FOR 23 AND THEN 3% IN IN FUTURE YEARS.

WE ARE ASSUMING THE ROI FOR ELECTRIC STAYS AT 6%.

WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND THEN FRANCHISE FEES, WE'RE CONTINUING THAT INCREASE TO THE STREETS FUND.

SO ABOUT 600,000 INCREASE TO THE STREETS FUND FROM FRANCHISE FEES.

RECAP OF SALES TAX HISTORY.

OUR SALES TAX HAS COME IN STRONG OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT INCREASING.

WE ARE ESTIMATING A 5% INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, ASSESS VALUES.

YOU SAW THIS AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, 19% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

SO A LOT STRONGER ASSESSED VALUES.

AND THEN I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS ALREADY, BUT WE DID RECEIVE CERTIFIED ESTIMATES THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF CERTIFIED VALUES THAT SAYS CREATE UNCERTAINTY FOR US IN THE BUDGET.

SO 11% OF PROPERTIES ARE STILL UNDER REVIEW.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OTHER ESTIMATES SINCE WE RECEIVED THE THE TOTALS JULY 21ST.

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AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE BUDGET IS WE'VE WE'VE ASSUMED THAT OF THOSE REMAINING PROPERTIES UNDER PROTEST, THAT 80% OF THAT VALUE COMES BACK TO THE TO THE GENERAL FUND OR BACK TO THE CERTIFIED VALUE.

THE LAST YEAR WE HAD WE RECEIVED CERTIFIED ESTIMATES.

THE PROTEST VALUES WERE UPHELD.

IT HELD AT 75%.

SO BASED ON THE MARKET AND INCREASES IN ASSESSED VALUES, WE FEEL LIKE 80% IS A IS STILL A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER FOR PROJECTING WHAT THE WHAT WOULD COME BACK ON THE ASSESSED VALUES.

SO AGAIN, THIS SLIDE HAS BEEN CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU SAW IT.

SO $0.56 FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.

AGAIN, AS WE DISCUSSED, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, JUST BASED ON THE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE OR MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS EXCUSE ME THAT WERE MADE THIS FISCAL YEAR, $0.52 IS REQUIRED FOR OUR TAX RATE TO MAINTAIN THOSE MIDYEAR AMENDMENTS.

YOU CAN SEE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF $0.51 AND $0.60 FOR THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

SO STILL STAYING WELL BELOW THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND AGAIN, BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK, WE WERE PROPOSING TO FUND TIERS ONE THROUGH THREE AT 55 AND ONE HALF CENTS WITH THE NET INCOME OF 486,000 TO THE GENERAL FUND.

WE'VE REVISED THAT.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE TABLE, $0.56.

SO GENERAL FUND REVENUES OF 182.7 MILLION.

GENERAL FUND EXPENSES OF 178 MILLION.

TOTAL SUPPLEMENTALS FUNDED OF FOUR AND ONE HALF MILLION WITH A TOTAL NET INCOME OF 14,000 FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THIS DOES CHANGE THE AVERAGE TAX BILL.

YOU MAY REMEMBER THE AVERAGE PROPERTY TAX BILL PREVIOUSLY THAT WE HAD IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS 12 AND A HALF DOLLARS PER MONTH.

THIS GOES UP TO 1375 PER MONTH BASED ON THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE OF $307,283.

AND SO YOUR UPDATED GENERAL FUND FORECAST, THE FIVE YEAR PROFORMA, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY TAX VALUES CONTINUING TO INCREASE SALES TAX 5% FOR FY 23, 5% OVER THE FY 22 FORECAST AND THEN 3% GOING FORWARD.

YOU CAN SEE THE DATA CENTER REVENUE CALLED OUT ON A SEPARATE LINE STARTING IN 23, ALONG WITH THE RELATED EXPENSE AND THE BOTTOM OF 13.9 MILLION TOTAL OF 182.7 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND FUNDING THE ONE TIME SUPPLEMENTALS OF 302,004.2 OF ONGOING SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS.

SO AGAIN, TO RECAP, THE FIVE TIERS THAT WE HAD PUT TOGETHER PREVIOUSLY, ONE THROUGH THREE WERE RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED.

COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO SEE WHAT IF WE COULD FUND TIER FOUR.

SO WE HAVE REVISED THE THE RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR TIERS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

SO AGAIN, I WON'T GO OVER THESE IN DETAIL.

YOU HAD LOTS OF BACKUP LAST TIME FOR EACH OF THE SUPPLEMENTALS WHITE PAPER JUSTIFICATION FOR EACH OF THE REQUESTS.

BUT TIER ONE IS 1.5 MILLION.

1.3 OF THAT IS ONGOING FOR POSITIONS.

TIER TWO IS 7.13 FTES OF 971,000 ONGOING COSTS.

TIER THREE NINE POSITIONS, 791,000 OF ONGOING 61,001 TIME FOR A TOTAL OF 852,000.

AND THEN WE WE ARE RECOMMENDING FUNDING TIER FOUR AT 1.1 MILLION.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE ONE ADDITIONAL 1% COLA INCREASE ALONG WITH THE CASH SPONSORSHIP OF $12,000.

THE CURRENT AMOUNT IS $88,000 THAT WE BUDGET FOR CASH SPONSORSHIP.

SO THIS WILL BRING IT UP TO 100,000 FOR THE YEAR AND THEN $150,000 OF IN-KIND CO SPONSORSHIP TO BRING THE TOTAL BUDGET TO 400,000.

TIER FIVE IS STILL CURRENTLY UNFUNDED.

SO FIVE AND ONE HALF FTES FOR LIBRARIES, POLICE AND PARKS, POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT BEING PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED CURRENTLY.

SO AGAIN, JUST A RECAP OF THE POSITION SUMMARIES ADDING A LOT OF POSITIONS REALLY BASED ON EXISTING DEMAND.

AND WE FOLLOWED UP WITH THAT IN THE MEMO THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP AND THEN TAX BILL, TAX BILL IMPACT, YOU CAN SEE

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$165 ANNUAL INCREASE BASED ON THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE FOR 23.

AGAIN, NO RATE CHANGES FOR THE UTILITIES.

AND SO WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OUR OUR COMMUNITY ON THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THE BALANCING ACT ON THE WEBSITE IS LIVE.

WE'VE HAD 69 VIEWS TODAY SO FAR, BUT WE'VE HAD NO SUBMISSIONS.

SO YOU CAN GO PUT TOGETHER YOUR BUDGET, HOW YOU WOULD LIKE IT AND THEN SUBMIT IT AND WE'LL GET THAT FEEDBACK.

WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL AND ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE BASED ON OUR BUDGET SIMULATION TOOL.

WE ALSO HAVE A WEB PAGE WHERE THERE'S A FORM THAT CITIZENS CAN FILL OUT AND GIVE US SPECIFIC FEEDBACK BASED ON THE BUDGET.

WE ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC TAX RATE AND HEARING EXCUSE ME, TAX RATE AND BUDGET HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 20TH SCHEDULED ALONG WITH BUDGET ADOPTION ON THE 27TH.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

CATHERINE, WHAT'S. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ON THE ON THE MEMO THAT YOU SENT OUT ON PAGE FOUR OR IT TALKS ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE DATA.

YES. SO I SEE THE NUMBERS THERE.

AND I THINK WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS AT THE BUDGET HEARING WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANIMALS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY THROUGH COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN OFFICIAL COUNTY KIND OF SITUATION.

THEN THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN JUST COME IN OFF THE STREET THAT AREN'T IN THE CITY OF DENTON, THAT BRINGS THEIR ANIMALS TO THE SHELTER.

WHICH NUMBERS ARE THESE? DO WE KNOW? I HAVE TIFFANY THOMPSON HERE READY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

GOOD AFTERNOON. TIFFANY THOMPSON, DIRECTOR, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ANIMAL SERVICES.

SO THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY THE COUNTY NUMBERS.

SO PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMIT, THEY ARE THEY SHOULD BE IN THE CITY LIMIT TO COME AND SURRENDER THEIR ANIMAL.

WE DO DEFINITELY HAVE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT'S IN THE ANIMAL'S BEST INTEREST FOR US TO TAKE THAT ANIMAL.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE MAY JUST DROP OFF AN ANIMAL AT THE SHELTER AND JUST LEAVE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD WORK THROUGH ANY TYPE OF CITATION THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR THAT, FOR A BANNING IN AN ANIMAL.

BUT THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE TRACK IS THE COUNTY NUMBERS.

AND THAT'S IF THEY COUNT, THAT'S IF A COUNTY OFFICIAL COUNTY TRUCK.

YES. BRINGS THEM IN.

THAT IS A COUNTY OFFICIAL BRINGING THE ANIMAL.

THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN START TRACKING THE OTHER, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE NEGOTIATING WITH THE COUNTY ON? I THINK WE'VE GOT AN UPCOMING CONTRACT OR A CONTRACT CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATION, NUMBER ONE.

YES, SIR. AND NUMBER TWO, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATE, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MINIMAL AMOUNT OR IT COULD BE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF WHAT THE COUNTY BRINGS IN OFFICIALLY.

SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO TRACK THAT? I MEAN, DO WE DO WE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY JUST DROP IT OFF AND LEAVE AND YOU COME TO THE ADOPTION CENTER AND THERE'S AN ANIMAL SITTING OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR, HOWEVER, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY WHEN YOU DO AN INTAKE, IF YOU GET ANY TYPE OF DATA OR IS THAT SOME TYPE OF PRIVACY ISSUE? SO A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IF SO, WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION FROM COUNTY ANIMALS THAT'S ALL TRACKED.

THAT'S WHAT WAS IN YOUR BACKUP.

IF SOMEONE'S COMING IN TO BECAUSE THEY FOUND AN ABANDONED ANIMAL OR A STRAY ANIMAL.

REALLY, ANYONE CAN DO THAT.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT THAT IS WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE THE ANIMAL CAME FROM.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY SAY, I FOUND IT IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT WE REALLY JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHERE THEY FOUND THAT ANIMAL, CERTAINLY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY CONTRACT IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY IS PAYING FOR THOSE COSTS FOR THE ANIMAL ALL THE WAY THROUGH ADOPTION VERSUS JUST THAT FIVE DAYS UNTIL THE CITY TAKES OWNERSHIP.

SO THAT'S THE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW WITH THE COUNTY.

BUT I THINK I WAS TRYING TO ANSWER THE TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

YEAH. AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE COUNTY PAY FOR THE ANIMAL ALL THE WAY THROUGH ADOPTION, YOU'RE SAYING THE COUNTY PAY FOR THE ANIMAL THAT THE COUNTY OFFICIALLY BROUGHT IN? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ANSWER TODAY, BUT THE DATA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HOW MANY ANIMALS COME IN INFORMALLY, I GUESS, IS THE BEST WAY TO SAY IT.

I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, BRINGING AN ANIMAL TO THE ADOPTION CENTER, NOT THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS, WE'RE BASICALLY SUBSIDIZING THAT AS CITIZENS, AS RESIDENT TAXPAYERS.

AND SO I THINK THAT DATA WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE FOR ESPECIALLY FOR FUTURE COUNTY CONTRACTS, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO HAVE A COUNTY FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN TAKE THAT IN.

BECAUSE THAT'S AND IT MAY BE NOT VERY MANY.

I JUST DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION.

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WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE THAT RICHER DATA POINT OF WHERE EXACTLY DID YOU GET THIS ANIMAL FROM? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK PEOPLE MAY BE AFRAID THAT WE WON'T ACCEPT THE ANIMAL IF THEY SAY WHERE THEY ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT FROM.

I THINK THE INTENT IS PURE, WHERE THEY JUST WANT TO HELP THE ANIMAL AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO THE BEST PLACE, WHICH IS DENTON ANIMAL SERVICES.

WE ARE THE BEST PLACE ABSOLUTELY TO DO THAT.

BUT WHERE IS THE ANIMAL COMING FROM? SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN OUR SUPPLEMENTAL PACKAGE FOR ANIMAL SERVICES IS AN INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT WILL HELP US BETTER TRACK THAT.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS Y'ALL ARE AGREEING TO FUND POTENTIALLY.

SO THAT WILL DEFINITELY HELP US GET THOSE BETTER NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SEEKING.

GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

A COUPLE FOLLOW UP, NOT FOLLOW UP, BUT ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE 3% COLA ADJUSTMENT THAT'S NOT IN ANY OF THE TIERS.

CORRECT. THAT'S JUST BUILT INTO THE BUDGET ITSELF.

CORRECT. AND WHAT'S THAT AMOUNT? THE 1% IS LIKE 1.5 MILLION OR 1 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

WELL, YEAH, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT IF 1% IS A MILLION BUCKS, THEN I WOULD ASSUME 3% BE CLOSE TO $3,000,003 MILLION.

OKAY. OKAY. SO, ALL RIGHT, SO THE THE THE COLA INCREASE NOT MAKING THIS OBSERVATION AS FOR OR AGAINST, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THE COLA IS BASICALLY PROBABLY A LARGE PERCENTAGE INCREASE OF IT'S NOT IN THE SUPPLEMENTALS, BUT IF IT WERE, IT WOULD BE ALMOST HALF OF IT OR MORE THAN HALF.

RIGHT. SO AND THAT 1 MILLION IS JUST FOR GENERAL FUND.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

RIGHT. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE ARE, THAT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, WHICH I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS TRIED TO STAY WITHIN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID AND EVEN THE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT BY $0.05. AND $0.05 IS WHAT? WHAT IS THAT? ABOUT FOUR OR 5 MILLION BUCKS IS A SIN.

ABOUT A MILLION OR A LITTLE OVER ABOUT 1.4 MILLION A CENT IS ABOUT 1.4 MILLION.

SO WE'RE ABOUT 7 MILLION, WHICH THAT'S A STRUGGLE FOR ME, QUITE HONESTLY.

NOW PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CUT? BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE JUST DON'T DO TIER FIVE, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT 500,000, IF THAT IS THAT CORRECT? 568,000, IF I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY, YEAH.

558,000. I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY ALMOST $7 MILLION OVER THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE WITH SUPPLEMENTALS OF 4.5 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

RIGHT. THIS IS 10% OF THAT WHICH MAY RAISE THE TAX RATE ANOTHER 10TH OF A CENT OR A QUARTER OF A CENT OR OR WHATEVER IT IS.

SO, I MEAN, IF IF THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT A NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO BEEF UP OUR STAFF FROM WHERE WE HAD LEAN YEARS DURING THE COVERT INTO THAT VOLUNTARY SEVERANCE PROGRAM AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THESE GET LEFT OUT IF IF IT WAS TWO OR 3 MILLION.

BUT SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ADVOCATING FOR THAT, BUT I'M SAYING IF I AGREE TO GO TO THE FIVE POINT WHATEVER IT IS, 56 POINT SOMETHING OR WHATEVER, AND LEAVE THESE OFF, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE IT'S A 10TH ALMOST OF OUR SUPPLEMENTALS.

AND THESE PROBABLY ARE AS IMPORTANT TO SOME DEPARTMENTS AS SOME OF THE OTHERS.

SO THAT'S NOT MY ADVOCACY FOR THIS.

IT'S JUST MORE OF AN OBSERVATION THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE, I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULD BE MINUSCULE AS FAR AS RAISING THE TAX RATE AND OR RAISING THAT AVERAGE ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS PAID FOR THE AVERAGE ASSESSED VALUE. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

THE MAIN ONE WAS ON THE COLA.

WHERE WAS THAT? THE 3% GO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE.

YEAH. ANYONE ELSE, MAYOR? PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL TAKE THE THE EXTRA QUARTER OF A OF A STEP FROM COUNCILOR WATTS'S POSITION AND ACTIVELY ADVOCATE FOR PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER HE JUST SAID, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH IT IN THE SENSE THAT IT BECOMES AN EXERCISE IN WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN STAFF COMPETENCY AS ONE OF OUR KEY PERFORMANCE GOALS THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH NUMBER IT IS, BUT FUNCTIONAL STAFF WAS THREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.

AND, AND, AND I AGREE THAT IF WE'RE AT 500,000, WE'RE LOOKING AT A HALF CENT, AS I RECALL, WHICH IS I

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ALSO RECALL CORRECT ME, THAT PUTS US BACK TO THE SAME RATE AND THAT WE WERE LAST YEAR, WHICH ADMITTEDLY IS ANOTHER $20 FOR A HOME OF 307,000.

SO YOU'D BE LOOKING AT INSTEAD OF 170, 190.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE VALUE ADD PROPOSITION FOR $20? IS IT IS IT WORTH FIVE AND A HALF POSITIONS? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS ME CEMENT TO WHAT COUNCIL WATSON WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE OR NOT, IS THE FIRST ITEM THAT YOU PROVIDED IN THE MEMO, WHICH IS ALL OF THESE ARE BASED ON GROWTH AND RESTORATION OF STAFFING FUNCTIONS AND NOTHING THERE WERE THERE WERE TWO BUDGET ITEMS THAT WERE NEW, BUT THEY WEREN'T FTES, RIGHT? SO ALL THE FTES AND I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY CLEAR AND I DIDN'T MEAN I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO COME OUT THAT WAY, BUT 100% OF THEM WERE.

WE'RE JUST GETTING BACK TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE NOT EXPANDING.

SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS VERY ILLUSTRATIVE FOR ME AND I AGREE WITH THE LOGIC AND I ENCOURAGE COUNCILOR WANTS TO BE BOLD AND GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT LAST QUARTER, STEP TOWARDS THE FULL FUNDING AND GO FOR TIER FIVE.

I KNOW THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO REDO THE TABLES THAT YOU DID FROM THE LAST MEETING.

THAT'S OKAY. BUT I'M I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE THE THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT THE BENEFITS AND DIRECT US TO GO FOR TIER FIVE. BECAUSE I'M SEEING THAT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF POSITIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN CLAMORING FOR FOR MORE THAN A YEAR NOW.

SO THANK YOU.

WHAT ELSE COMES FROM MAGUIRE AND COUNCILMAN? BYRD. SO I SAID IN THE WORKSHOP THAT I'M A VERY EASY YES ON TIER FOUR AND I KIND OF NEED TO CHEW A LITTLE BIT.

MORE ON TIER FIVE.

AND SO I GUESS I'LL JUST SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES WHERE I'M AT AND WHY I'M NOT QUITE READY TO TAKE THAT LAST QUARTER STEP AND ADVOCATE FULLY FOR TIER FIVE.

SO I'M WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO PUT MORE RESOURCES THAN WE HAVE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS INTO ATTRACTING AND RETAINING STAFF.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PAY RATE IS AT LEAST COMING CLOSE TO KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION AND THAT OUR EMPLOYEES CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE CITY.

AND THAT THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO TO GIVE SUBSTANTIAL COLA INCREASES, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MAYBE MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AS FAR AS THEIR COLA INCREASES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH NEARBY CITIES THAT ARE MAYBE DOING 7% INCREASES.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE TAX BILL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

I'M SEEING BETWEEN 2017 AND 2018 ABOUT A 1.3% INCREASE.

18 TO 19, THERE WAS A 5.9% INCREASE.

19 TO 21.6% INCREASE.

2221 4.1% INCREASE.

21 TO 22, 1.8% INCREASE.

AND THEN WITH WITH THE REVISED PROPOSED RATE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 10.6% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S HARD ON FAMILIES.

IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S COMPLETELY OUTSIDE THE REALM OF WHAT'S REASONABLE GIVEN THAT, AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO REBUILD FROM SOME LEAN YEARS AND WE DO NEED TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF.

AND OUR STAFF ARE BEING HIT BY INFLATION, JUST LIKE OUR TAXPAYERS ARE BEING HIT BY INFLATION.

AND OFTEN OUR STAFF ARE OUR TAXPAYERS.

BUT I FEEL LIKE GOING BEYOND THAT, WE'RE GETTING WE'RE STARTING TO WIDEN THE GAP AND GET MAYBE MORE THAN ONE STANDARD DEVIATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT STANDARD DEVIATION ACTUALLY MEANS.

YOU CAN CORRECT ME ABOUT THAT. BUT GETTING MORE THAN ONE STANDARD DEVIATION ABOVE WHAT INFLATION IS DOING NOW, IT STARTS TO FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE OC AT A TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR BILLS WERE WE'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE MORE AND MORE OUT OF THEM.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT ALL THE WAY ON BOARD WITH TIER FIVE, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T DOUBT THAT THAT THE FTES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED ARE NEEDED.

BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST YEAR AND I THINK THAT WE CONTINUE TO IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS APPROVE MORE FTES BECAUSE WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE GROWING CITY AND STAFF NEEDS TO GROW, BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO TAP THE BRAKES JUST A TOUCH SO THAT WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE INCREASING TAX BILLS AT A FASTER RATE THAN INFLATION, I GUESS IS WHERE I'M AT.

COUNCILMAN BURT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MAGUIRE MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR TIER FIVE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE ANY SURPRISE TO ANYONE.

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I JUST FEEL LIKE, AH, IF WE CAN EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY THAT WHEN WE NEED THEM, THEY WILL COME.

THEY WON'T COME IF WE DON'T HAVE THEM.

I'M TALKING ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, ANY KIND OF SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

AND I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE NEED.

WE ARE A FAST GROWING CITY.

THINGS ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING ON US.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED.

THE EMPLOYEES TO TAKE CARE OF US.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO TOO MUCH CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT IF I IF I CALL THE POLICE FOR MY EMERGENCY NEED, I EXPECT FOR THEM TO BE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF ME.

IF I CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I NEED FOR THEM TO BE THERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ME.

ANY KIND OF WATER ISSUES, ANY KIND OF LAND ISSUES.

I JUST NEED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IF I ADD AN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, A FEW PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ME.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

AND MR. MAYOR, PLEASE PUT ME DOWN FOR TIER FIVE.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WAS LIKE, WHAT COUNCILMEMBER BIRD WAS JUST SAYING IS WHAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR ME TO SAY WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.

AND THAT IS I DON'T PUT TIER FIVE IN THE CATEGORY OF WHEN I PICK UP THE PHONE, I NEED THAT PERSON RIGHT NOW.

SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, 25 FTES UNDER THE PROPOSED BUDGET, INCLUDING TIER FOUR, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO TIER FOUR IN PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHAT HELPS ME GET TO THE BUDGET PROPOSAL ALL THE WAY THROUGH TIER FOUR.

I MEAN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT IF WE DO NOT FUND THEM, REPRESENT A A DECREASE IN OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING. SO WE HAD THE FLATLINE BUDGET RATE THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO SEE.

THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE IMPACT, DIRECT IMPACT OF INFLATION.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE INPUT, INCLUDING THAT BUILT IN COLA AND THEN WE HAVE FUNDING SUPPLEMENTALS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO TIER FOUR THAT HELP US SEE WHERE THE IMPACTS OF THE INDIRECT IMPACTS OF INFLATION ARE.

AND IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU GO AND TELL YOUR BOSS, I'VE GOT TO HAVE THIS RAISE, OTHERWISE YOU'RE ACTUALLY DECREASING MY PAY DUE TO INFLATION.

ALL OF THOSE SAME THINGS ARE HIT IN THE CITY.

IT IS A BALANCE, AS COUNCILMEMBER MAGUIRE SAID, BETWEEN DO YOU HIT THEM IN THE TAX RATE OR DO YOU HIT THEM IN DECREASE OF SERVICES OR WHERE? HOW DO THESE THINGS INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER? AND THAT'S WHY I'M COMFORTABLE AT TIER FOUR.

IT DOES REPRESENT AN INCREASE.

WE HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE RAISING TAXES TO GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO TIER FOUR, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DECREASING THE RATE.

BUT WE'RE DOING SO THOUGHTFULLY, WE'RE DOING SO IN THE WAYS THAT WE NEED TO TO CONTINUE ON OFFERING REALLY THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE OFFER.

NOW, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT EVEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH TIER FOUR, A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE FUNDED.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE NEED TO CONTINUE RUNNING THE CITY THAT WE RUN.

NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY SUPPORT AT THE LEVEL WE ARE SUPPORTING NOW, JUST BUDGETING IT.

SO I'M GOOD THROUGH TIER FOUR.

I'M STILL HOPEFUL FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, THAT WILL DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE ASSESSED VALUES.

AND TWO, AND AS A HOMEOWNER, I'M HESITANT TO SAY THAT.

RIGHT. BUT TWO, I WOULD ALSO LIKE IF WE DON'T THERE'S NOT CONSENSUS TO FUND TIER FIVE, THEN I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT SALES TAX LOOKS HERE.

LOOKS LIKE MIDYEAR.

AND MAYBE THAT'S A TIME TO PICK UP SOME LIBRARY FTES OR AN ADMIN POSITION IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

ANYONE ELSE. CUSTOMER, BURT.

I JUST WANT US TO BE MINDFUL THAT LAST YEAR WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE MADE A DECISION ON THE TYPE OF FUNDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THE CITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, ODDLY ENOUGH, MIDWAY THROUGH THE POINT WE HAD TO COME BACK, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL FEES. AND WE CAME BACK AND WE GAVE THEM WHAT THEY WANTED AND WE GAVE MORE.

THEY ASKED FOR THREE.

WE GAVE SIX.

SO TO BALANCE OUT THAT OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY NEED AND IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL FTES THAT THEY DO NEED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THOSE.

I WANT TO GIVE THEM SOME WIGGLE ROOM TO GO AHEAD AND EMPLOY WHO THEY NEED TO EMPLOY.

AND MY QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU ASK FOR SOMETHING.

WE WENT WITH WHAT? WE WENT AND YOU FOUND YOU NEEDED MORE AND YOU ASK FOR THREE MORE.

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AND WE SAID, HEY, WHY DON'T WE GIVE YOU SIX? AND EVERYBODY WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS, I GOT YOU.

I HEAR YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO COME BACK AND MAYBE TAKE A LOOK, BUT I AM AGAIN AND WE CAN.

LET'S DO. ANYONE ELSE.

COUNCILOR MCGEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU MISSED THE WORK SESSION.

WHAT WERE YOU DOING? WERE YOU OKAY? WE WERE OKAY. YEAH, OKAY.

YEAH, ME TOO. THAT'S COOL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT.

GLAD YOU'RE FEELING BETTER, SIR.

YOU TOO. I WANT TO JUMP AND TAKE THAT HALF STEP TO.

I REALLY DO. BUT PERHAPS RIGHT NOW.

I PREFER FUNDING JUST THROUGH TIER FOUR.

IT'S SOMETHING I'D REALLY LIKE TO CONSIDER IN THE EARLY PART OF NEXT YEAR, THOUGH, IF IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL MONEY, PARTICULARLY WITH SALES TAX, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE THERE WITH THE SALES TAX ALONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? CUSTOMER WATCH. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ON PAGE TEN OF THE PRESENTATION WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT 75, 80% AND 85% SCENARIO. SO THIS IS REVISED FOR THE THROUGH FOR TIER FOUR.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO IF IT COMES IN AT 75%, SCENARIO TIER FOUR CREATES A DEFICIT OF 339 926, 80% IS ZERO.

IF IT'S 85% SCENARIO, YOU'VE GOT A SURPLUS OF 339 926, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT COULD BE MONEY THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED OR ALMOST 4 TO 5.

AND YOU ADD 250,000 MORE DOLLARS.

YES. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME IN AT 75%.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT.

WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME TO SEE IT EVEN ABOVE 85% KNOW HISTORICALLY.

BUT WHEN HAVE WE SEEN A 19 TO 20% INCREASE? SO I KNOW YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE.

DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE TIMING IS ON EVEN KNOWING BECAUSE THERE WAS $11 MILLION? I THINK YOU SAID OUTSTANDING OR 11, 11%, 11% SORRY, 11 MILLION GS, 11%, WHICH IS WHAT IS THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S CLOSE TO OVER $1,000,000,000.

I MEAN, A COUPLE OF BILLION DOLLARS.

DO THEY SEND.

OF COURSE THEY'RE ALL IN THE PAPER.

SORRY, BUT DO THEY SEND EITHER A WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY UPDATE OF WHAT HAS BEEN SETTLED AND HOW THAT COMES? OR ARE WE JUST STILL OPERATING ON? THERE'S AN 11% VALUE THAT'S OUT THERE WITH NO UPDATES ON IT WHATSOEVER.

I HAVEN'T RECEIVED AN UPDATE SINCE JULY 21ST.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN WE'LL GET SOMETHING EVEN CLOSE TO SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS IS TERRIBLE.

I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, THIS IS TERRIBLE FOR US TO HAVE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS BASED UPON GHOST DATA.

AND THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

AND AND SO WHATEVER'S HAPPENING OVER THERE, I'M GLAD THAT PEOPLE WERE TAKING VOTES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

BUT NO MATTER HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE LOOK WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO HERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A QUARTER OF A CENT, HALF A CENT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS BECAUSE WE GOT $2 BILLION OR MORE OUTSTANDING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

SO AND IT'S TYPICALLY ONLY 5%, RIGHT? WHEN YOU GET CERTIFIED, IT'S USUALLY 5%, 5% OR LESS.

OKAY. WELL, I WOULD RECOMMEND I JUST ASK THE MAYOR OR A CITY MANAGER SOMEBODY TO SEND A LETTER, AN OFFICIAL LETTER TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER SAYING, HEY, WE NEED SOME UPDATES OR TO THE ANDES, THE COUNTY CHAIR, YOU KNOW, THE JUDGE, COUNTY CHAIR, COUNTY JUDGE TO EVERYBODY'S GOING THROUGH THIS.

BUT THIS IS IT'S NOT FAIR TO US.

IT'S QUITE FRANKLY, MOREOVER, NOT FAIR TO OUR CITIZENS, BECAUSE WE CAN'T GIVE THEM ANY CERTAINTY ON THIS.

BUT I HAVE A FEELING IT'S GOING TO COME IN AT MORE THAN CERTAINLY DON'T COME IN MORE THAN 80%.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW.

AND IT MAY NOT BE TO WIN.

THE LAST I SAW, THEY HAVE REVIEWS SCHEDULED THROUGH SEPTEMBER 15TH.

THEY HAVE. WHAT NOW. REVIEWS.

OH, WITH THE BOARD.

WITH THE BOARD OR APPRAISERS OR SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING.

WE MIGHT GET SOMETHING OR BEFORE THEN HOPING TO GET SOMETHING AS SOON AS THEY FINALIZE THE REVIEWS.

BUT WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 20TH AND THEN ADOPTION ON THE 27TH.

SO THAT DOESN'T LEAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL BUDGET DOCUMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY THAT THAT WE CHOSE FOUR AND WE DIDN'T CHOOSE FIVE.

[01:05:07]

BUT AS COUNCILOR WATTS SAID, WE.

5%, 7% ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM VARIOUS SOURCES WOULD PRETTY MUCH CLEAR THE ADDITIONAL HALF MILLION WOULD WAS THE INTENT OF STAFF TO BRING BACK THE TIER FIVE AS A HYPOTHETICALLY AS A BUDGET REVISION REALLY QUICKLY OR NOT, WE WOULD PLAY THAT BY EAR.

WELL, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU MAKE THE DIFFERENCE WHEN WE GET NUMBERS THAT ARE INDICATING THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT SUFFICIENT MORE MONEY IN THERE, I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SO YOU COULD MAKE A DECISION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMEMBER WATTS WAS ALLUDING TO, IS IF THERE'S SIGNIFICANT MORE MONEY AND IT'S NOT AT A DEFICIT, THEN YOU HAVE SOME TO MAKE A DECISION WITH.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK AND THIS IS AS WE GO TO THE NEXT STEPS AND WE GET TO DIRECTION, I THINK THE TIMELINE DOES BECOME INTERESTING BECAUSE OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOT TILL SEPTEMBER 20TH. SO WE HAVE THE OPTION FOR A SEPTEMBER 13TH SPECIAL WORK SESSION JUST FOR THE BUDGET.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE WE'RE PRETTY FAR ALONG ON CONSENSUS RIGHT NOW.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE LEAVE IT UP TO YOUR DISCRETION IN YOUR DIRECTION IF YOU STILL WANT THAT MEETING, IF YOU SAY WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH, IF WE GET PRECISE DIRECTION FROM YOU NOW, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT MEETING.

WE'D JUST GO TO THE SEPTEMBER 20TH PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I THINK WHAT COULD BE HELPFUL IS IF IT COMES IF WE WANT TO ASSUME IT COMES IN AND THERE'S EXCESS FUNDING, WOULD YOU PREFER TO LOWER THE TAX RATE WITH THAT EXCESS FUNDING OR FUND TIER FIVE? ANY INSIGHT WE CAN GET FROM YOU RIGHT NOW WOULD HELP US TO MAYBE AVOID THAT SEPTEMBER 13TH MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE UNCERTAINTY AND AND NAVIGATE IT.

SO IF WE COULD GET THAT CONSENSUS FROM COUNSEL, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 20TH.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SAYING AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE CAN WE GIVE THAT DIRECTION AND BE ON POSTING? IS THAT OK OK? THEN THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM SAYING THAT I WOULD PREFER WE WE SCRUNCH UP TO TIER FIVE FOR WE'RE LOOKING AT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF A GINORMOUS BUDGET. SO.

OKAY. YEP.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S. I THINK WHAT I HEARD, DAVID, YOU ASKING IS IF THERE'S AND WE GIVE DIRECTION OR NOT BASED UPON YOUR REQUEST.

SO I WOULD SAY YES, IF IT COMES IN AT A CERTAIN LEVEL OR IF IT COMES IN AT A SURPLUS, I WOULD JUST ASSUME HAVE A WORK SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 13TH TO DISCUSS.

DO WE WANT TO LOWER THE TAX RATE OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER? TIER FIVE I THINK TO MAKE THAT DECISION NOW AS FAR AS EITHER ONE IS A LITTLE PREMATURE AND IT MIGHT NOT BE RIPE FOR THAT DECISION.

SO TO ME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE MOST CURRENT UP TO DATE DATA AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS MAY CHANGE AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S LOWER THE RATE OR WE DO THIS.

I THINK THAT'S I WOULD JUST ASSUME HAVE THAT DATE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT DATA IF IT COMES FORWARD.

OKAY, GREAT. ANYONE ELSE.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER WATTS.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE QUITE READY FOR THAT BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF IN FACT, I'M NOT SURE I'D WANT TO HAVE THAT.

I WANT TO HAVE THE MEETING RATHER THAN GIVE DIRECTION NOW TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE.

BUT I ALMOST DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT MEETING IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S ANY BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW, IF IT'S STILL WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROTESTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 15TH.

WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MEETING ON THE 13TH TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER GHOST NUMBER? I'D REALLY AND I REALIZE THAT THIS PUTS YOU ALL IN A BIND, BUT TO BE PERFECTLY FRANK, IT'S A BIND WE ARE GOING TO BE IN REGARDLESS.

AND IT'S NOT A BIND OF OUR MAKING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET FINAL UNTIL WE ARE ON THE EVE OF OUR SEPTEMBER 20TH HEARING.

SO WE MIGHT JUST NEED TO HAVE A REAL ROBUST REPORT AND A REAL ROBUST PUBLIC HEARING BY THE TIME WE GET THERE.

I. I'M HESITANT, HESITANT TO ASSUME WHAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT CAN DO.

BUT IF WE GO BACK TO A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THEY HAD 40% OUTSTANDING, THEY WERE ABLE AT THE LAST SECOND GET IT IN.

SO I WOULD BE I WOULD BE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THEY CAN THEY CAN GET US DOWN TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE GOOD NUMBERS BEFORE SEPTEMBER 13.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT.

I KNOW. I KNOW. SO, MAYOR, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE THEN TO CONTINUE TO PLAN ON THE 13TH AS A BUDGET MEETING? IF FOR SOME REASON WE DO NOT GET THOSE NUMBERS, WE WILL CANCEL OR CANCEL THAT MEETING.

SO IT'S NOT AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY AND THEN TRY TO EITHER RESCHEDULE SOMETHING QUICKLY ON A TIME OR JUST DO IT ON THE NIGHT OF THE BUDGET ADOPTION.

I THINK WE JUST WANT THE PUBLIC THE PUBLIC HEARING SORRY, WORK.

YES, THAT WORKS FOR ME. I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

SO ANYONE ELSE?

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. NO. SO FOR ME, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE EXTRA HALF CENT, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH $0.56 AND I DID NOT SEE A UPDATE ON THE COUNCIL STIPEND.

DID I MISS THAT? I DO NOT HAVE THAT.

I WILL GET YOU THAT, BECAUSE I WOULD THAT MONEY WOULD PAY FOR THE TENNIS POSITION.

THAT'S $8,000 THAT MONEY WOULD PAY FOR.

YOU COULD GO WITH A LEGAL INTERN THAT'S ONLY 29,000, AND IT WOULD.

THERE'S ONE OTHER THING I IDENTIFIED IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF IF AVAILABLE TIER FIVE SPONSORSHIP CASH. SO THOSE THINGS COULD ALL BE CONSUMED BY MONEY THAT'S BUDGETED, THAT'S NOT BEING SPENT.

THEN CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WE DID HAVE THE FIRE POSITIONS BUT THEN IN TIER.

TWO. THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL FIRE POSITIONS, BUT THEN YOU GET TO TIER THREE TO GET TO A ONE ADDITIONAL POLICE POSITION.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, WHY DIDN'T WE FRONT LOAD ALL THE POLICE POSITIONS, UNDERSTANDING WE DIDN'T GET TO THOSE AS WE INTENDED TO.

I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO COME RIGHT BACK AFTER THE FIRE POSITIONS WITH POLICE POSITIONS TO TO ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS.

BUT THERE ARE STILL A COUPLE OF FIRE POSITIONS THAT THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE POLICE POSITIONS.

NOT NOT SAYING THAT'S WRONG.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT.

TIER ONE INCLUDED THE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH IS WHAT COUNSEL HAD GIVEN DIRECTION WITH THE MATRIX STUDY, THAT STAFFING STUDY.

SO WE DID INCLUDE THOSE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE JAILERS IN TIER ONE AND THEN IN TIER THREE, IT WAS THE DISPATCH POSITIONS.

AND THE REASON THOSE ARE REALLY IN TIER THREE IS WE CURRENTLY HAVE SOME VACANCIES IN DISPATCH, SO WE'D LIKE TO GET THE VACANCIES FILLED AND THEN OUR REQUEST IS TO MORE DISPATCH POSITIONS FOR THAT GROUP.

GOT IT. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. OKAY.

WELL, THEN, YEAH, I WOULD JUST NEED TO SEE WHAT STAFF'S DECISION IS OR DIRECTION IS ON THOSE FUNDS THAT WOULD THEN BACK OUT ALL THOSE THOSE ALTHOUGH THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOMINAL, AND THEN I'LL JUST CIRCLE BACK INDEPENDENTLY AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE THE TIERS BECAUSE I THINK I CAN GET TO A TIER BUT NOT AS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED OR I MAY END UP THERE AS WELL.

I JUST HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED FOR ONE ON ONE SO THAT I COULD KIND OF DIG INTO EACH OF THOSE AND DO THAT ANALYSIS AND MAY LAND AT THE SAME PLACE. JUST NEED TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER, SO.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS AND TAKES US TO OUR CLOSED MEETING

[1. Closed Meeting:]

SO WE'LL GIVE SOME TIME TO CLEAR THE ROOM.

TAKE A BREAK. BUT WE DO HAVE FOUR CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, BEFORE WE GO BREAK, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE IN ORDER OR IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE THAT WE CAN? NO, I THINK WE'VE TOLD OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL ABOUT 4:00.

SO WE CAN GO AS AS SCHEDULED HERE.

WE MAY GO AHEAD AND CHANGE C AND D THE ORDER OF THAT.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, WE CAN DO THE EVALUATIONS AND THOSE CAN GO FIRST.

OC YES.

SO WE'LL SWITCH C AND D, TAKE THOSE IN IN DIFFERENT ORDER.

GREAT. OKAY.

THEN IT IS THREE, FOUR, TWO.

OH, I GUESS I SHOULD GO AHEAD AND CALL IT RIGHT AND THEN TAKE THE BREAK.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

SO THERE'S THE.

I CAN JUST READ ANY OF THESE CAPTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT THE THE LANGUAGE.

AND IF I DID, FORGIVE ME.

SWEET. SO AT 314, I WILL CONVENE OUR CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS DELIBERATED REGARDING PERSONAL PERSONNEL MATTERS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.07 FOR CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071. SO WE'RE NOW IN CLOSED SESSION.

WE'LL TAKE A LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK, BE BACK.

325 TO GET STARTED.

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

AND GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

IT IS 636.

SORRY WE'RE A LITTLE LATE.

WE WERE WORKING REALLY HARD THOUGH, AND SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AGAIN.

[01:15:07]

SO WE'LL CALL A MEETING TO ORDER.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG.

PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IF YOU'RE ABLE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO EUROPE FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE AN INDIVIDUAL.

OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PROCLAMATIONS OF WHICH WE HAVE WE HAVE FIVE TODAY.

[A. Proclamation: North Texas Overdose Awareness Day]

SO I'LL COME DOWN FOR THOSE.

OKAY. SO THE FIRST PROCLAMATION WE HAVE IS NORTH TEXAS OVERDOSE AWARENESS.

IF YOU'RE HERE FOR NORTH TEXAS OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY, IF YOU COULD COME DOWN, PLEASE.

OH, LOOKY THERE.

HEY. THAT IS AWESOME.

OKAY. WELL, THANK Y'ALL.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND THEN TELL US A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY AND WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING AND TO HAND IT OVER TO YOU.

MY NAME IS RACHEL ROLAND.

THIS IS MY SON, ROUX, AND MY NAME IS SHARON ROLAND.

AND WE'RE HERE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF OVERDOSE AWARENESS.

ON AUGUST 31ST, WE WILL HOST THE NORTH TEXAS OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY AT 6:30 P.M.

ON THE LAWN OF THE COURTHOUSE ON THE SQUARE.

WE'LL HAVE SPEAKERS AND 45 PLUS RESOURCE PROVIDERS AND MUSIC AND FOOD AND A MEMORIAL.

AND IT'S TO REMEMBER THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LOST TO HELP REDUCE THE STIGMA OF SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS AND TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION.

AND WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL ALL JOIN US ON THAT DAY.

AND DO YOU HAVE IS THERE ANY LOVED ONE YOU WANT TO MENTOR OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ELSE YOU WANT TO MENTION? SURE. WE WE BEGAN THIS IN 2018 AFTER THE DEATH OF MY SON, RANDY, FROM AN OVERDOSE.

AND WE'RE JOINED EACH YEAR BY MANY PARENTS, BY SISTERS, BROTHERS, SONS AND DAUGHTERS WHO HAVE LOST SOMEONE TO OVERDOSE.

AND SO IT'S A VERY SPECIAL DAY FOR US TO REMEMBER THOSE WE'VE LOST AND TO HELP PREVENT FUTURE LOSS FROM OVERDOSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.

THAT'S RIGHT. IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO READ THIS AND THEN WE'LL GET A PICTURE.

OKAY. SO IT SAYS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS INTERNATIONAL OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY IS A GLOBAL CAMPAIGN THAT TAKES PLACE ON THE 31ST DAY OF AUGUST EACH YEAR AND ENCOURAGES LOCAL EVENTS TO PROMOTE AWARENESS OF THE OPIOID CRISIS.

AND. WHEREAS, NORTH TEXAS OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY AIMS TO RAISE AWARENESS OF DRUG OVERDOSES BY PROVIDING RESOURCES AND EDUCATION FOR THE COMMUNITY, BY SUPPORTING THOSE WHO STRUGGLE, BY REDUCING THE STIGMA OF DRUG RELATED DEATHS, AND BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE GRIEF FELT BY FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, REMEMBERING THOSE WHO HAVE DIED IN THOSE WHO HAD HAVE A PERMANENT INJURY AS A RESULT OF A DRUG OVERDOSE.

AND. WHEREAS, NORTH TEXAS OVERDOSE AWARENESS AWARENESS DAY SPREADS THE MESSAGE THAT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE DIE EACH YEAR FROM DRUG OVERDOSE AND THE TRAGEDY OF DRUG OVERDOSE DEATHS IS PREVENTABLE.

AND. WHEREAS, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE SET ASIDE A DAY TO INFORM REMEMBRANCE AND EDUCATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 31ST DAY OF AUGUST 2022 AS NORTH TEXAS OVERDOSE AWARENESS DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO REMEMBER THOSE WHOM WE HAVE LOST DUE TO DRUG ADDICTION, ADDICTION AND OVERDOSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE SO KIND.

AND I WISH I WOULD. I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.

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VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

I'LL GO READ IT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. GOT IT.

LET'S SEE. ALL RIGHT.

[B. Proclamation: Constitution Week]

WHO IS HERE FOR CONSTITUTION WEEK? OH. HEY, HOW ARE Y'ALL? VERY WELL. GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, OK.

IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND THEN TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONSTITUTION WEEK.

THIS IS SUZANNE BARNETT AND SHE IS OUR HONORARY REGENT FOR THE BENJAMIN LYON CHAPTER OF DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND OUR CHAIR OF CONSTITUTION WEEK.

AND I'M ELLEN SIMIC, THE CURRENT REGENT OF LAW AND CHAPTER.

AND WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE, TO COMMEMORATE THE 235TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF THE CONSTITUTION ON SEPTEMBER 17TH.

AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE HERE FOR CITY COUNCILS AND COUNTY COUNCILS AND ALL OF THAT WITHOUT THE CONSTITUTION THAT WAS WRITTEN.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO EDUCATE OURSELVES AND EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN AND SO ON, OF THE IMPORTANCE OF REMEMBERING OUR CONSTITUTION, CELEBRATING IT, READING IT ONCE IN A WHILE IS ALWAYS VERY IMPORTANT.

SO THAT'S GOOD THING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

OKAY, AWESOME.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY. AND IT SAYS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO WHOM ALL THESE PRESENT SHALL COME GREETINGS.

WHEREAS OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, IN ORDER TO SECURE THE BLESSING OF LIBERTY AND THEMSELVES, FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROSPERITY, DID ORDAIN AND ESTABLISH A CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

WHEREAS, AND WHEREAS, IT IS THE GREATEST IMPORTANCE, IT IS OF THE GREATEST IMPORTANCE THAT ALL CITIZENS FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PROVISIONS AND PRINCIPLES CONTAINED IN THE CONSTITUTION IN ORDER TO EFFECTIVELY SUPPORT, PRESERVE AND DEFEND IT AGAINST ALL ENEMIES.

AND. WHEREAS, THE 235TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF THE CONSTITUTION PROVIDES A HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL AMERICANS TO REMEMBER THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THEY AFFORDED US IN THIS UNIQUE DOCUMENT.

AND. WHEREAS, IT IS A PRIVILEGE AND DUTY OF ALL AMERICANS TO COMMEMORATE THE 235TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE RATIFICATION OF THE CONVENTION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WITH THE APPROPRIATE CEREMONIES AND ACTIVITIES.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD 2022 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO STUDY THE CONSTITUTION AND REFLECT ON THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING AN AMERICAN WITH ALL THE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES WHICH THAT PRIVILEGE INVOLVES.

AND FURTHER TO THE THE.

WHAT IS THAT? OH NO.

YEAH, THAT'S A YEAH.

ME EITHER. YEAH.

AND I CAN SEE IT.

I JUST THAT'S HALF THE BATTLE AND PROTECT THE FREEDOM GUARANTEED TO US THROUGH THIS GUARDIAN OF OUR LIBERTIES.

I MEAN, GIVE A HAND. HERE WE GO. AWESOME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING YOUR FIND.

YOUR RINGS. OH, GREAT.

OKAY, ROO, IS IT? COME ON DOWN, ROO. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT IS THAT? OH, WAIT.

WHAT IS IT? HOW? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THIS ONE.

OKAY. GOT IT.

[C. Proclamation: National Senior Center Month]

THE NATIONAL SENIOR CENTER MONTH.

HEY, COME ON DOWN.

YOU'RE THE NEXT CONTESTANT.

WATCH YOUR STEP THERE. ALL RIGHT.

OVER HERE, OK.

YOU RE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING.

YEAH. I SURE APPRECIATE YOU.

YOU LOOK GREAT UNDERNEATH THAT HAT.

YEAH. HEY.

HOW YA DOING? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO IF WHOEVER WANTS TO SPEAK AND SPEAK TO WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING.

WELL, I'M NICOLE. I'M THE SENIOR CENTER MANAGER FOR THE DENTON SENIOR CENTER.

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OVER HERE IN THIS, I'M YVONNE KENDRICKS.

I'M THE REC COORDINATOR AT THE AMERICAN LEGION HALL SENIOR CENTER.

YES. AND THESE ARE A COUPLE OF OUR SENIOR CENTER ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND A COUPLE OF PARKS AND REC STAFF.

SENIOR CENTER MONTH IS SOMETHING WE CELEBRATE IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

ALL MONTH LONG. IT'S JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING AWARENESS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF SENIOR CENTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THE COMBATANTS OF SOCIAL ISOLATION, WHICH WE SAW A LOT OF DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND PEOPLE JUST SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY DRIVEN IN THEIR OLDER POPULATION.

SO SENIOR CENTER IS A GREAT PLACE.

COME WORK OUT, GET SOME SOCIALIZATION, STRETCH YOUR MIND, STRETCH YOUR BODY AND ALL THE THINGS IN BETWEEN.

AND WHAT IS THE AGE RANGE? 50 AND OLDER.

YEAH, RIGHT GUYS.

YEAH. YES.

SO I HAVE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GO SO THE SENIOR CENTER HERE HAS CHAIR VOLLEYBALL AND I THINK IT MAY BE THE GREATEST GAME EVER INVENTED.

I HAVE A FIVE YEAR OLD THAT WE PLAY AT HOME ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, SHE'S BOUGHT IN. I MEAN, IT IS AN AMAZING.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, YOU'VE GOT TO GO SEE IT.

BUT IT'S IT IS ACTION PACKED.

IT'S IT'S FANTASTIC.

SO GREAT. BOTH CENTERS DOING GREAT THINGS.

AND YOU HAVE YOU ALL HAVE DOMINOES ON THURSDAY, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.

DON'T DON'T GO. DON'T GO.

IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE NEW, DON'T GO.

YES. YEAH, FOR SURE.

SO I HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS FOR ONE FOR EACH CENTER, BUT HERE WE GO.

SO IT SAYS GREETINGS.

WHEREAS SENIORS, SENIOR CITIZENS ARE SIGNIFICANT OR SIGNIFICANT MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY.

THEY SHARE THEIR WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE AND HELP ENRICH AND IMPROVE THE LIVES OF YOUNGER GENERATIONS.

AND. WHEREAS, THE AMERICAN LEGION HALL SENIOR CENTER AND THE DENTON SENIOR CENTER ACT AS A CATALYST FOR MOBILIZING THE CREATIVITY, CREATIVITY, ENERGY, VITALITY AND COMMITMENT TO THE OLDER RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DENTON.

AND. WHEREAS, THROUGH THE WIDE ARRAY OF SERVICES, PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES, SENIOR CENTERS EMPOWER THE OLDER CITIZENS OF DENTON BY CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR HEALTH AND WELL-BEING.

AND. WHEREAS, THE TWO SENIOR CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF DENTON AFFIRM THE DIGNITY, SELF-WORTH AND INDEPENDENCE OF OUR OLDER PEOPLE BY ENCOURAGING THEIR INVOLVEMENT AND DECISIONS, TAPPING INTO THEIR EXPERIENCE, SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE, AND ENABLING THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF AUGUST 2022 AS NATIONAL SENIOR CENTER MONTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE SPECIAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE SENIOR CENTER PARTICIPANTS AND THE SPECIAL EFFORTS OF STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS WHO WORK EVERY DAY TO ENHANCE THE WELL-BEING OF THE OLDER CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. OKAY.

YEAH. I THINK IT'S SHOCKING.

THERE IS THIS SORT. GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S YOUR WORD? YES, BY ALL MEANS, WE GO.

LET ME GET YOU LET ME GET YOU TO MY.

I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER BEHIND ME TO KNOW THAT WE'RE VOTERS.

AND GERARD HAS COME TO OUR FACILITY NUMEROUS TIMES, AND I WOULD INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU BEHIND ME TO SHOW UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SO WE KNOW WHO THE HECK YOU ARE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S GIVE HIM A HAND AGAIN. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU. YOU'RE AWESOME.

THANK YOU. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.

WANT TO TAKE ME? OH, THANK Y'ALL.

I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT.

OK. GOT IT.

[D. Proclamation: National Payroll Week]

OK NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK.

WHO'S HERE FOR NATIONAL PAYROLL? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

GREAT. OKAY.

WELL, IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PAYROLL WEEK.

I'M CINDY HARTMAN, THE PAYROLL SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF DENTON.

AND THIS IS IN RECOGNITION.

THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF PAYROLL.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. HI, I'M DONNA BUSH.

PAYROLL SPECIALIST.

CHRISTY LOOPER, PAYROLL SPECIALIST.

I'M VALERIE MOORE. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PAYROLL FOR SALLY BEAUTY.

YEAH, I'M MAYOR GERARD HUDSPETH PAYROLL RECIPIENT.

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YEAH, I HAVE GREAT REVERENCE FOR WHICH I'LL DO BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME I WAS 16 DOING MY TAXES AND, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CARRY THE NUMBER STRAIGHT DOWN AND SEND IT IN.

NO BIG DEAL. RIGHT.

SO I DID THAT WRONG AND SO THAT BUT I WAS OKAY.

RIGHT. I GOT THE MONEY AS AIR BLOCK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THAT NEXT YEAR, WHEN I GOT THAT INCOME TAX CHECK FOR $1, I FIGURED, HEY, THEY HAVE GOOD RECORDS, SO I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL DO.

KEEP KEEPING UP WITH ALL THE THE MOVING DETAILS, NEW LAWS, ETC..

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

VERY APPRECIATIVE. SO I HAVE I HAVE FOUR.

ONE FOR EACH. AND JUST SO HERE WE GO.

IT READS TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENT SHALL COME GREETINGS.

WHEREAS THE AMERICAN PAYROLL ASSOCIATION AND ITS MORE THAN 20,000 MEMBERS HAVE LAUNCHED A NATIONWIDE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN THAT PAYS TRIBUTE TO PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS AND NEARLY 150 MILLION PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND. WHEREAS, PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS IN DENTON, TEXAS PLAY A KEY ROLE IN MAINTAINING THE ECONOMIC HEALTH OF DENTON BY CARRYING OUT DIVERSE TASKS, SUCH AS PAYING INTO THE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SYSTEMS, PROVIDING INFORMATION FOR CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT, CARRYING OUT TAX WITHHOLDING AND REPORTING AND DEPOSITING.

AND. WHEREAS, PAYROLL DEPARTMENTS COLLECTIVELY SPEND MORE THAN $2.4 TRILLION ANNUALLY AND COMPLIES WITH A MYRIAD OF FEDERAL AND STATE WAGE AND TAX LAWS.

AND. WHEREAS, PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS PLAY AN INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT ROLE IN ENSURING THE ECONOMIC SECURITY OF AMERICAN FAMILIES BY HELPING TO IDENTIFY NON CUSTODIAL PARENTS AND MAKING SURE THEY COMPLY WITH THE CHILD SUPPORT MANDATES.

AND. WHEREAS, PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS ALSO HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY PROACTIVE IN EDUCATING BOTH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE ABOUT PAYROLL TAX WITHHOLDING SYSTEMS. AND.

WHEREAS, PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS MEET REGULARLY WITH FEDERAL AND STATE TAX OFFICIALS TO DISCUSS BOTH IMPROVING COMPLIANCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT PROCEDURES AND HOW COMPLIANCE AND CAN BE ACHIEVED AT LESS COST TO BOTH THE GOVERNMENT AND THE BUSINESSES.

AND. WHEREAS, THIS WEEK THIS WEEK IN WHICH LABOR DAY FALLS HAS BEEN PROCLAIMED NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK, I HEREBY GIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY OF DENTON PAYROLL EMPLOYEES, CITIZENS WHO WORK IN DENTON AND OF THE PAYROLL PROFESSION BY PROCLAIMING THE FIRST FULL WEEK OF SEPTEMBER PAYROLL WEEK.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 5TH THROUGH THE NINTH, 2022 AS NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK AND GIVE A HAND.

I MEAN, YOU ON THIS SIDE BETTER? YEAH, THAT'LL BE GOOD. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, CINDY WAS LIKE I SAID, I TOLD HER, I SAID, OH, TELL HER.

SHE SAID, THINK YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO TELL HER TO COME ON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

[E. Proclamation: Suicide Prevention Awareness Month]

OKAY. AND WHO IS HERE FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH? IF YOU COME DOWN, PLEASE.

GREAT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YEAH. OKAY.

YEAH. IF YOU CAN GIVE GIVE YOUR NAME AND AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT US TO KNOW.

YEAH, OF COURSE. MY NAME IS ELIZA HANCOCK.

I WORK FOR DENTON COUNTY MITCHAM.

AH. AND I SERVED THE LOSS TEAM FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND I AM STILL A VOLUNTEER.

WE LOST 98 INDIVIDUALS TO SUICIDE LAST YEAR IN DENTON COUNTY ALONE, AND WE BELIEVE THAT ONE IS TOO MANY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT THE CITY OF DETROIT HAS TAKEN ON THIS PROCLAMATION AND DECLARED SEPTEMBER AS OUR SUICIDE AWARENESS PREVENTION MONTH, BECAUSE EVERY LITTLE THING THAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP ANYBODY COULD BE ENOUGH TO SAVE A LIFE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

OK SO IT SAYS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENT SHALL COME GREETINGS.

WHEREAS ADDRESSING THE PREVENTION OF SUICIDE, PREVENTION OF SUICIDE AMONG CHILDREN, YOUTH AND ADULTS TODAY IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF DENTON.

CITIZENS OF DENTON VALUE THE OVERALL HEALTH AND THE LIVES OF THEIR FAMILIES AND FELLOW CITIZENS AND ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT OBSERVANCE SUCH AS SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH.

AND. WHEREAS, SUICIDE IN IS THE THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH OF OF AGES 10 TO 19 AND THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR AGES 20 TO 34. AND FOURTH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR AGES 35 TO 44.

AND SUICIDE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE IN THREE ONE THIRD OF ALL DEATHS AGE 55 AND OLDER.

AND. WHEREAS, THERE IS AN AVERAGE OF 130 SUICIDE DEATHS PER DAY IN THE UNITED STATES, 10% OF THE ADULTS EXPERIENCE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS IN THE UNITED STATES,

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AND NEARLY ONE IN FIVE TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS REPORT SERIOUSLY THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE.

15% MADE A PLAN TO COMMIT SUICIDE, AND 10% MADE AN ATTEMPT.

AND. WHEREAS, THE NEED FOR A COMPREHENSIVE, COORDINATED MENTAL HEALTH AND SUICIDE PREVENTION SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS A CRITICAL RESPONSIBILITY.

THERE IS A STRONG BODY OF RESEARCH THAT SUPPORTS SPECIFIC TOOLS AND ALL TOOLS THAT ALL AMERICANS CAN USE TO WORK THROUGH CHALLENGES AND PROTECT THEIR OVERALL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING.

EACH CITIZEN, LOCAL BUSINESS, SCHOOL, GOVERNMENT AGENCY, HEALTH CARE PROVIDER AND FAITH BASED ORGANIZATIONS SHARE THE WEIGHT OF THE SUICIDE CONCERNS AND HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROMOTE MENTAL WELLNESS, RECOVERY AND SUPPORT PREVENTION EFFORTS.

AND. WHEREAS, THE DENTON COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH LEADERSHIP TEAM, DENTON COUNTY HMO, FORMER CENTER, DENTON COUNTY ZERO SUICIDE TASK FORCE AND DENTON COUNTY SUICIDE PREVENTION COALITION, OR ARE EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSING THE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUICIDE PREVENTION NEEDS OF CHILDREN, YOUTH, ADULTS AND FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT A MONTH SHOULD BE SET ASIDE EACH YEAR FOR THE DIRECTION, DIRECTION OF OUR THOUGHTS TOWARD SUICIDE PREVENTION, EDUCATION AND THE SUPPORT OF OF TREATMENT AND RECOVERY.

AND NOW, THEREFORE, I.

GIROUARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER 2022 AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND CALL UPON CITIZENS, AGENCIES, ORGANIZATIONS INTERESTED IN HELPING THEM TO PREVENT SUICIDE THIS MONTH TO JOIN TOGETHER BY SPREADING AWARENESS, BY LEARNING THE STEPS OUR CITIZENS CAN TAKE TO HELP PREVENT SUICIDE, AND BY RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR APPROPRIATE AND ACCESSIBLE SERVICES FOR ALL PEOPLE EXPERIENCING SUICIDAL THOUGHTS.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A HAND FOR THE WORK YOU DO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. OK THAT TAKES US TO

[3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

THE THIRD PORTION OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IF WE COULD REVIEW THE PROCESS FOR ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM.

SPEAKERS WILL HAVE 4 MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND 4 MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT.

A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED.

IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING.

IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS.

IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NON SCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NON SCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NON SCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA, MAKE A STATEMENT, A FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY.

SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

THANK YOU. IN ADVANCE.

COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY.

SO THE FIRST SPEAKER IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE.

SO I'LL TAKE US TO OUR SECOND SPEAKER, WHICH IS STEPHEN HILLENBURG.

HE CAN COME DOWN. YOU HAVE? GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE 4 MINUTES.

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OKAY. CAN WE RESET THIS TIMER, PLEASE? YEAH. I DIDN'T REALIZE TO START IT.

ONCE YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, WE'LL SET IT TO FOUR.

THANKS. STEPHEN BLUMBERG, 1004 ABBOTS LANE, DENTON, TEXAS.

SO TODAY MARKS THE TEN MONTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FIRST TIME I CAME BEFORE THIS BODY ASKING YOU GUYS FOR HELP.

AND EVERY SINGLE TIME EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU GUYS HAVE SAT UP THERE LIKE GLASSY EYED DRONES AND SAID NOTHING.

I'VE COME TO REALIZE THAT SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE OFF LIMITS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS DOCUMENT SAYS.

THIS DOCUMENT WARS HAVE BEEN FOUGHT OVER AND WON ALREADY.

ASKED IF YOU'D READ IT LAST TIME, OFFERED TO GIVE YOU A COPY AND YOU SAID YOU HAD AND YOU PROMISED YOU DIDN'T NEED ONE.

SO LET'S DISCUSS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHY IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE'VE GOT A JUDICIAL OFFICER, AN ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY SERVING IN THE LEGISLATIVE ROLE IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

ARTICLE TWO, SECTION ONE, THE POWERS OF GOVERNMENT, THE POWERS OF GOVERNMENT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS SHALL BE DIVIDED INTO THREE DISTINCT DEPARTMENTS, EACH OF WHICH SHALL BE CONFIDED TO A SEPARATE BODY OF MAGISTRACY, TO WIT, THOSE WHICH ARE LEGISLATIVE TO ONE, THOSE WHICH ARE EXECUTIVE TO ANOTHER, AND THOSE WHICH ARE JUDICIAL TO ANOTHER.

AND NO PERSON OR COLLECTION OF PERSONS BEING OF ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS SHALL EXERCISE ANY POWER PROPERLY ATTACHED TO EITHER OF THE OTHERS.

IS SEPARATION OF POWERS IMPORTANT IN OUR GOVERNMENT? IS IT? I WOULD SAY SO, BECAUSE THERE WERE INHERENT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT WOULD ARISE FROM JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS, LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDINGS, EXECUTIVE PROCEEDINGS. AND MOST OF US DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE STRUCTURE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS RIGHT NOW.

I HAD TO LOOK IT UP BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE NOT TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.

BUT HOW DID WE GET FROM HERE AS OUR SUPREME LAW TO HERE? I HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE JUDICIAL OFFICERS, A PROCESS SERVER, AN ATTORNEY AND A DISTRICT ATTORNEY SITTING UP HERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S STUPID. I MEAN, THIS IS THE PLAIN WRITTEN LANGUAGE OF THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

WHAT DO WE NOT UNDERSTAND HERE? I LOOKED INTO OUR CITY CHARTER AS TO HOW TO GO ABOUT IMPEACHMENT, AND FUNNY IT DOESN'T MENTION IT.

HOW DO WE DO IT? A RECALL ELECTION.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE AT, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WE'LL SEE YOU THERE IN NOVEMBER AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT DO WE HAVE A WAY TO ADDRESS THIS OTHER THAN QUO WARRANTO? AND WHAT IS QUO WARRANTO? YOU'RE YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY.

YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO BE HERE.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY CAN PETITION TO THE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF OUR STATE AND SAY, DOES HE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE? I DON'T THINK HE DOES.

I THINK HE'S HIS BEING HERE AT ALL.

THE MOMENT THAT HE SWORE AN OATH TO CONFLICTING BRANCHES OF OUR GOVERNMENT MADE HIM.

WHAT A TRAITOR.

LET'S LOOK AT THIS.

HOW DID YOU ALL CHANGE THIS? HOW WAS THIS CHANGED OVER TIME? HOW WAS THE CONSTITUTION AMENDED? WELL, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 42 IS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AND YOU GUYS TOOK IT OUT.

IT WAS TAKEN OUT IN 1969 AS PART OF AN YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE THIS MORE MORE MODERN.

BUT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

AND THEY DIDN'T TELL US THE PART THAT THEY WERE TAKING OUT.

THE PARTS ARTICLE OR SECTION 42, 46 AND 48 OF ARTICLE THREE WERE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT.

LEGISLATURES SHALL PASS LAWS PROHIBITING THE OR SORRY.

THIS PART OF THE CONSTITUTION ALSO EMBRACES SECTIONS WHICH PROHIBIT THE LEGISLATURE FROM DOING CERTAIN ACTS.

SOME OF THESE ARE PROHIBITIONS AGAINST THE DOING OF THINGS BY THE LEGISLATURE ITSELF AND OTHERS PROHIBIT THE BODY FROM CONFERRING AUTHORITY UPON MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS TO DO THE THINGS NAME THEREIN.

AND 48 EMBODIES THE PROHIBITION AGAINST TAX AND TAXING POWER EXCEPT FOR THE CERTAIN PURPOSES NAMED GUYS.

WE WONDER WHY WE HAVE PROBLEMS. WE WONDER WHY WE HAVE SKYROCKETING PROPERTY TAXES.

IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE LAWYERS IN EVERY BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT THAT ARE EXERCISING AUTHORITY THAT WAS NEVER GRANTED TO THEM.

AND THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO GO TO THE STUDENTS WITH BEGINNING AS SOON AS THEY GET BACK AUGUST 29TH, BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN Y'ALL WON'T DO ANY.

THAT SAID, I ASKED YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

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90,000 THERE COMPARED TO 6300.

AVERY. GOOD LUCK.

THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT SPEAKER IS TRACEY DUCKWORTH.

YOU CAN COME DOWN. AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 4 MINUTES.

MY NAME IS TRACY AND YOU CAN ADJUST THE.

YEAH, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TRACY DUCKWORTH, AND I'D RATHER KEEP MY ADDRESS PRIVATE.

OKAY. I WAS HOMELESS FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.

IN MY LAST YEAR OF IT WAS ON THE STREETS OF DENTON.

I GOT A BEAUTIFUL APARTMENT NOW ON APRIL 1ST, AND EVERYBODY THAT'S OUT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, PARCELS FOR ME. THAT'S MY FAMILY.

AND I WAS OUT THERE WITH THEM AND.

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE SHELTER FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO AT NIGHT.

IT IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND THAT IS ACTUALLY WHY I WAS BEHIND SCHEDULE GETTING HERE TONIGHT AND RUNNING LATE AND RUNNING FROM MY APARTMENT THROUGH QUAKERTOWN PARK BECAUSE I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH A YOUNG MAN WHO WENT THROUGH THIS LAST NIGHT.

THERE WAS ONE SHELTER IN DENTON.

ONE AND.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH AT ALL.

AND THIS YOUNG MAN THAT I SPOKE WITH TONIGHT AND LAST NIGHT IS GOING THROUGH WHAT I GET PHONE CALLS ALL NIGHT FROM PEOPLE SAYING THE SAME THING.

MY PEOPLE.

THEY CAN'T GET A BED AND THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

AND THEY ASKED ME. WHERE IS THE SAFE PLACE? A SAFE PLACE? SORRY. WHERE IS A SAFE PLACE FOR ME TO GO AND SLEEP TONIGHT? WHERE? I WON'T GET HURT.

AND THEY KNOW THAT. I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS OUT HERE WITH THEM AND I WON'T GOT THEM WRONG.

AND THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

WE NEED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING REC CENTER OPEN AS A 24 SEVEN COOLING STATION, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THAT EITHER, WHERE YOU CAN GO IN AND COOL OFF AND GET OUT OF THE HEAT.

WALKING OUT TO CHECK ON PEOPLE.

MY APARTMENT IS 450 FEET FROM QUAKERTOWN PARK AND I GO OUT THERE AS MUCH AS I CAN AND CHECK ON PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE IF YOU WANT TO TAKE SNACKS AND WHATEVER ELSE TO DO, I CAN CHECK ON PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MY FRIENDS.

AND. IT IS HARD TO BREATHE WALKING OUT THERE AND SITTING FOR A MINUTE TALKING TO PEOPLE AND COMING BACK.

IT IS SO HOT AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO AND COOL OFF.

THERE'S NOWHERE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.

THERE'S TOO MUCH.

THERE'S THERE'S OVERFLOW OF PEOPLE OUT THERE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO EXCEPT FOR OUT THERE ON THE SIDEWALK OR WHEREVER THEY CAN FIND.

IT'S NOT SAFE AND IT'S NOT RIGHT.

AND AND NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AT ALL.

AND. WE NEED THE MILK STATION REC CENTER OPEN AS A 24 SEVEN COOLING STATION AND EMERGENCY SHELTER.

IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY, IF NOT SOONER.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT.

I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS AND WHAT THAT REFLECTS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

I KNOW ABOUT THE PHONE CALLS I GET AND MY FRIENDS GET AND I GET FROM MY FRIENDS ARE GETTING WHERE CAN I GO TONIGHT? BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BEDS AT THE ONE SHELTER THAT IS NOT ENOUGH.

AND PEOPLE THAT ARE SEATED PERMANENTLY OR FOR ANY OTHER LENGTH OF TIME FROM THE ONE SHELTER CAN NOT GET ANYTHING DAY OR NIGHT FROM ANYWHERE HYGIENE, FOOD, CLOTHING, ANYTHING.

AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR EVERYBODY TO GO.

PLEASE, PLEASE.

I ASK YOU TO DO THAT.

PLEASE. PLEASE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

TIME. OH, THANK YOU.

EVA GRECO. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE 4 MINUTES. EVA GRECO, 802 WEST OAK STREET.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M GOING TO TRY AND BE REAL QUICK.

SARAH, I KNOW YOU'RE TIRED.

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY FOR YOU.

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BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE PROCEDURES PUT ON THERE.

I'VE HEARD IT IN NUMEROUS WORK SESSIONS AT THE MEETINGS ABOUT.

PUBLIC SPEAKING, RESPECTING COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS RESPECTING THE PUBLIC.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND IT SAYS TO DIRECT NOT AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT ALL COUNCIL.

BUT I CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

OKAY. THAT ARE DISRESPECTING CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN.

AT THE WORK SESSION TODAY.

CHRIS WATTS. YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, BUT YOU KNEW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION AND YOU PICKED OUT ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL.

AND MADE REMARKS THAT WEREN'T REALLY NECESSARY.

AND THEN GERARD.

YOU SAT THERE AND MADE REMARKS.

YOU SAID THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME.

I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT IT, THOUGH.

THAT INDIVIDUAL MADE NEGATIVE REMARKS ABOUT ME.

SO WHAT? SO WHAT? PEOPLE SAY NEGATIVE REMARKS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

SO WHAT? IT'S EMBARRASSING WHEN THE MAYOR OF THE TOWN WHERE I LIVE AND HE'S LIKE, WELL, SOMEBODY MADE NEGATIVE REMARKS ABOUT ME.

THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT SHOWING RESPECT.

OK SECOND THING.

MUNICIPAL OK BELIEVE THERE'S LIKE THREE OR FOUR ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

THERE WERE A FEW ITEMS ON THE LAST MEETING AGENDA.

ALL THESE AMENDMENTS.

WE'RE UP TO AN EIGHTH AMENDMENT ON ONE ITEM TODAY.

HOW MANY AMENDMENTS DO YOU DO? YOU SIGN A CONTRACT? WITH AN ENTITY TO DO BUSINESS.

AND THE DOLLARS GO UP AND UP AND UP.

OKAY. AS FAR AS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT DMAE, YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS.

I GET MY BILL. MY BILL IS DUE NEXT WEEK AND I HAVE LESS THAN 15 DAYS TO PAY THAT BILL OR IT'S SHUT OFF TIME. SO IT'S NOT FAIR.

I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION I'M WORKING ON.

I WILL BE EMAILING IT TO ALL COUNSEL.

I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR TONY AND I WASN'T ABLE TO REACH HIM TODAY TO GET CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING WITH THE DM.

THERE WAS AN AGENCY, I DON'T KNOW WHICH I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE AGENCY AND SUPPOSEDLY THE FORMAT OF THE BILLS THAT WE RECEIVE.

UNDER THE RATE COLUMN, IT SAYS R2 AND THEN A SPACE ONE THAT'S ON MY BILL.

IF YOU GO TO A STORE, YOU'RE GOING TO BUY A WOMAN'S BLOUSE.

THE PRICE TAG DOESN'T SAY WB AND YOU FIND OUT THE PRICE WHEN YOU GO TO THE REGISTER RATE IS THE RATE.

I WANT TO KNOW THE RATE ON PAYING.

OK ON.

CONTRACT. WHEN DE SETA DID THE PUBLIC FORUM OVER HERE ON HICKORY STREET AND THERE WAS A WOMAN SAID SHE WORKED FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR 32 YEARS AND SHE WAS CONTRACTS.

SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF PROCURING CONTRACTS.

THE BIGGEST AND EVEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES THIS.

THE BIGGEST MISTAKE YOU MAKE, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

AND THE BIGGEST MONEY WASTER IS CONTRACTS.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

THAT THAT'S THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

OKAY. MY APOLOGIES.

THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT. OK CONSENT AGENDA.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

NOTHING WAS PULLED.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MAYOR PRO TEM I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN DAVIS.

SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM. ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE. THROW IT ON THE SCREEN.

THAT PASSES 7 TO 0 TAKES US TO OUR FIRST OPEN MEETING.

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Residential 2 (R2) District to Suburban Corridor (SC) District on approximately 13.07 acres of land generally located at the northeast corner of North Locust Street and Hercules Lane, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [4-1] to recommend approval of the request. (Z22-0008c, Asbury UMC, Julie Wyatt)]

LET ME GET THERE. IT'S ITEM A, WHICH IS Z220008C, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS REGARDING A CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND USE

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CLASSIFICATIONS FROM RESIDENTIAL TO R TO DISTRICT TO SUBURBAN CORRIDOR SC DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 13.07 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH LOCUST STREET AND HERCULES LANE.

AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD EVENING. JULIE WYATT, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF DENTON AND I AM PRESENTING ZEE 20 28C TO YOU TONIGHT.

ASBURY UMC REZONING.

SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER REZONING APPROXIMATELY 13 ACRES FROM THE R TWO DISTRICT TO THE S.C.

DISTRICT. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY INCLUDES TWO TRACKS.

ONE TRACT IS ABOUT FOUR ACRES, AND IT IS DEVELOPED WITH A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE.

AND THEN THERE'S A NINE ACRE TRACT THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

SO THAT FOUR ACRE TRACT IS KIND OF THE CENTER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHOWN HERE.

IT'S A LITTLE CLEARER IN THIS EXISTING ZONING MAP AND THEN THE NINE ACRES SURROUNDING IT IS THE UNDEVELOPED.

THE PURPOSE OF THE REZONING, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, IS TO DEVELOP A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WITH A TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER OR ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THERE WAS A QUESTION TODAY ABOUT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE USE AND ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, AND I THOUGHT I WOULD ADDRESS IT AND JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THIS SLIDE.

SO WITH THE WITH THE INTERPRETATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE WE HAVE, THE CITY IS THE DETERMINED THAT THE THE ZONING SORRY, I'M GOING TO READ MY NOTES HERE THAT WE REQUIRE THAT THE ZONING INCLUDE THE PRIMARY ACCESS.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN YOU HAVE A USE THAT'S DEVELOPING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE ACCESS FOR THAT USE, IF IT CROSSES THAT PROPERTY, THE ZONING NEEDS TO PERMIT THAT USE.

SO IT'S AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS ENTIRE TRACT, BOTH THE FOUR ACRES AND THE NINE ACRES, IS PART OF THIS REQUEST.

BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF APPROVED, THIS IS A BASE ZONING REQUEST.

ANY USE PERMITTED WITHIN THE SC DISTRICT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY.

SO THE APPROVAL CRITERIA FOR A REZONING REQUEST IS IN SUBCHAPTER TWO OF THE DEBT AND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I WON'T GO OVER EACH ONE, BUT IN SUMMARY, THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE STATEMENT AND S.C.

DISTRICT. THERE ARE DESIGN STANDARDS INTENDED TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, AND THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES IN THE AREA THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING.

SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN IN BLACK ON YOUR SCREEN AND IT IS WITHIN A COMMUNITY MIXED USE AREA WHICH INCLUDES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND SURROUNDING THE INTERSECTION AT LOCUST AND LOOP TO 88.

COMMUNITY MIXED USE IS INTENDED FOR RETAIL, OFFICE, RESTAURANT AND SERVICE USES AT A SCALE INTENDED TO SERVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S FOR EXISTING AND FUTURE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE ENTIRE CITY, YOU SEE COMMUNITY MIXED USE TYPICALLY FOUND ON ARTERIAL ROADWAYS OR AT INTERSECTIONS.

SO THINK UNIVERSITY LOOP 288 AND TEASLEY, AND THAT CREATES THOSE COMMERCIAL NODES TO SERVE THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND THE PERMITTED USES IN THE DISTRICT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO TALKS ABOUT OUR COMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT SPEAKS TO THAT IT IS NEEDED TO AND AS FUNDAMENTAL TO A HEALTHY AND THRIVING COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THINK ABOUT THE PANDEMIC AND ALL HOW MUCH WE USED OUR DEVICES AND IT REALLY IS A NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO LOOK AT WITH A REZONING REQUEST THOSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IS LOCATED ON HERCULES AND LOCUST AT THAT INTERSECTION.

THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST AND EAST INCLUDES A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE'S A SUBSTATION JUST TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY OF THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED AND SC DISTRICT, IF IT'S APPROVED, WOULD INTRODUCE NEW USES TO THE AREA OF COMMERCIAL USES INTENDED TO SERVE THOSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

AND THOSE COULD HAVE IMPACTS TO THOSE SURROUNDING AREAS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE SPEAKS TO THAT AND INCLUDES DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO HELP MINIMIZE AND MUTE THOSE IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT.

IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPING, SUCH AS STREET TREES, BUT THEN DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES STREET TREES ALONG ALL ALL ROADWAYS, ONE EVERY 30 FEET, A PARKING LOT,

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LANDSCAPING, A PARKING LOTS HAVE TO BE LANDSCAPED NOT ONLY AT THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT ALSO INTERNALLY WITH LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AND CAPS, SETBACKS.

I'M GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE THE AERIAL SHOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN.

S.C. DISTRICT DOES HAVE SETBACKS REQUIRED.

THE FRONT SETBACK IS 20 FEET.

SO WHEN WE APPLY THAT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THESE MEASUREMENTS ARE APPROXIMATE, WE WE CAN SEE THAT HERCULES LANE, IT IS A COLLECTOR ROADWAY WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON AND COLLECTOR ROADWAYS REQUIRE 65 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IF THIS IF AND WHEN THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPS, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION WOULD HAVE TO BE REQUIRED.

BY MY MEASUREMENT, APPROXIMATELY ABOUT TEN FEET WOULD BE REQUIRED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THAT PROPERTY AND RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION.

SO THAT WOULD SET THAT THAT NEW PROPERTY LINE, WHICH THEN THAT SETBACK WOULD BE ESTABLISHED FROM THERE.

SO IT WOULD BE IT BE 20 FEET SET BACK FROM THERE.

SO BY THAT MEASUREMENT, IT WOULD SET BACK ANY FUTURE BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE, ABOUT 95 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINES LINE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH. WE ALSO HAVE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT LIGHTING SPILL OVER IS MINIMIZED.

WE HAVE OVERALL TREE CANOPY THAT IN THE SC DISTRICT IT IS 30% AND THAT'S MATURE CANOPY.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE DRIVEWAY SPACING AND LIMITATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REDUCE THOSE CONFLICTS FOR CARS.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT JUST HOW MUCH PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THIS SITE.

IT'S IT'S IT'S SORT OF UNIQUELY SITUATED.

IT KIND OF HAS SOME STRANGE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THAT TRACT WITHIN THE CENTER THAT IS DEVELOPED.

SO BY OUR MEASUREMENT, THERE'S ABOUT THREE AND ONE HALF ACRES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ALONG LOCUST, ALONG THAT INTERSECTION AT LOCUST AND HERCULES.

AND THEN ABOUT THREE ACRES JUST TO THE EAST OF THERE ALONG HERCULES, THAT THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE IS WOULD LIMIT THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SIDE AS WELL.

WE DO HAVE C DISTRICT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND SO THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS REALLY ARE IMPORTANT.

WHEN WE WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE WE HAVE SC DISTRICT, AS I MENTIONED, OUR COMMUNITY MIXED USE FEATURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS OFTEN FOUND ALONG ARTERIALS AND INTERSECTIONS AND OUR SC DISTRICT SORT OF FOLLOWS THAT PATTERN.

YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT PROPERTIES ALONG.

TS I THINK THIS IS TEASLEY AND RYAN, BUT WE'VE GOT THAT SC DISTRICT THERE AT THAT NODE, AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, THEN RADIATING OUT FROM THERE WE SEE THAT SAME PATTERN REPEATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY ALONG MCKINNEY AND, AND, AND LOOP TO 88, LOOP TO 88 AND THEN ALONG UNIVERSITY JUST TO SHOW HOW THAT SC DISTRICT DOES IMPACT OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

WE ALSO LOOK AT ONE OF OUR CRITERION FOR APPROVAL IS SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE AREA.

THE NORTH SIDE OF DENTON HAS GROWN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THE AERIAL TO THE NORTH IS IS FROM 2017.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A STAR ON IT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT ALONG ROUTE TO 88, THERE'S RATHER LARGE TRACTS OF LAND THAT HADN'T BEEN DEVELOPED.

THE AERIAL TO THE SOUTH SHOWS THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE SINCE SINCE 2017.

WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG ROUTE 288 AND EVEN EVEN OUTSIDE OF LOOP TO 88 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS AREA. WE'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL JUST INSIDE THE LOOP EAST OF THE PROPERTY, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO THAT, WE'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THEN AND THEN FURTHER WEST ALONG BONNY BRAE, WE'VE SEEN QUITE A BIT OF CHANGE WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

WE'VE GOT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS TOWNHOME, MODERATE DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

SO ALL IN ALL, IT'S ABOUT 1500 DWELLING UNITS WITHIN THIS NORTH PART OF THE CITY.

AND THE NEAREST KIND OF RETAIL CONCENTRATION OF RETAIL IS AT UNIVERSITY AND.

LUKE 288 SO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA AND WOULD BE AN EXTENSION OF THAT EXISTING C DISTRICT JUST ON THAT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH TO ACCOMMODATE COMMERCIAL USES TO SERVE THESE, THESE NEW RESIDENTS.

PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS SENT OUT.

THE MAP IN YOUR BACKUP WAS ACTUALLY INCORRECT, AND THAT IS RELATED TO THAT ACCESS ISSUE.

THEIR ORIGINAL REQUEST JUST INCLUDED THAT NINE ACRE TRACT.

AND THEN IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR ACCESS, THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ACCESS THROUGH THAT CHURCH PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY EXPANDED THEIR REQUEST.

SO WE SENT OUT A NEW NOTIFICATION.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT MAP ERROR.

BUT BUT WE DID NOTIFY BASED UPON THAT 13 ACRE BOUNDARY.

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WE'VE RECEIVED FOUR LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND THE APPLICANT DID HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ATTENDED BY ABOUT 12 ATTENDEES.

SO BASED UPON THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS WELL AS PLANNING AND ZONING.

RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

4 TO 1. THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

HE HAS A PRESENTATION.

I BELIEVE HE HAD BINDERS FOR YOU AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE THE APPLICANT? SO MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JULIE, I SENT IN A QUESTION ABOUT OUR INTERNAL ACCESS MECHANISMS AND THE WAY THE DDC IS WRITTEN TO SUPPORT OR DENY THAT.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT DRC IS IS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I HADN'T REALLY GOTTEN A CHANCE TO ABSORB THE RESPONSE.

COULD YOU EDUCATE US A LITTLE BIT ON THE ON THE BENEFITS AND DRAWBACKS OF OF OUR CURRENT DDC CODE AND WHAT IT REQUIRES FOR ACCESS FROM ONE ZONING TO ANOTHER.

AND IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE.

SURE. SO.

SO, YES, OUR OUR OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE DDC IS THAT THAT ACCESS IS ACCESSORY TO THE USE.

IT IS A PART OF THE USE.

AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE ACCESS THROUGH A PROPERTY, THE ZONING ON THAT PROPERTY SHOULD PERMIT THE USE THAT IS THAT THE ACCESS IS SERVING.

SO HOPEFULLY I SAID THAT BETTER THAN I DID AT THE AT THE TOP OF THE PRESENTATION.

BUT, BUT THAT DOES SERVE THE CITY AND THAT IT DOES MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT THOSE ACCESS POINTS AND THAT ESPECIALLY ALONG OUR OUTLYING AREAS WHERE WE HAVE ADJACENT OR OR DIFFERENT ZONING ALONG THE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ZONING, LOOKING AT THE ACCESS AND MAKING SURE, SURE WE HAVE APPROPRIATE ZONING IN PLACE FOR ANY PERMITTED USE THAT WOULD WANT TO GO IN THAT AREA.

SO IF I MIGHT FOLLOW UP, THE THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING, THOUGH, IS I UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR CURRENT CODE SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE THE THE ACCESS WAY HAVE THE SAME ZONING AS THE DESIRED USE.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHAT WHAT DOES THAT WHY IS THE APPROPRIATE ANSWER NOT TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE DDC TO ALLOW DIFFERENT ZONING ACCESS THROUGH DIFFERENT ZONING? WHAT IS THAT PROTECTING US FROM? CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OR EVEN A HYPOTHETICAL? WHY DO WE WANT THAT? WHY IS THE APPROPRIATE ANSWER IN THIS CASE? NOT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'LL LET YOU HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE CHURCH.

LEAVE THAT AS OUR TO AND PUT THE CELL TOWER ON ON THE SC.

SCOTT MCDONALD DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

COUNCILMEMBER I'D JUST LIKE TO PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE THAT HAPPENED, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR, A YEAR BEFORE UP ON 380, WE HAD A PROPOSED CONCRETE RECYCLING FACILITY THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT.

IT WAS SURROUNDED WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL.

THE FRONTAGE ON 380 WAS ZONED AS ARE TOO SIMILAR TO WHAT THIS IS.

AGAIN, THE SAME ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A MORE INTENSE USE GO THROUGH THAT ARE TWO SO IT PROVIDES PROTECTIONS FOR AGAIN THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE PROPERTIES IN PLACE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN COME IN WITH THAT ZONING CHANGE WHICH IS HERE TODAY AND THIS ONE BEING CONSISTENT WITH A COMP PLAN, JUST LOOKING AT IT AND AND REVIEWING IT IN SUCH A WAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO IN THAT BUT IN THAT CASE AND JUST FOR CLARITY, IN THAT CASE, THE THAT ARE TWO IN THE CEMENT PLANT AND IN THE AND THE AREA OVER THERE BY THE GREEN BELT, THEY DID NOT WISH TO TO CHANGE.

THEY WANTED TO STAY RESIDENTIAL.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE CHURCH IS AMENABLE TO BEING RE ZONED TO.

WELL, THEY'RE APPLYING FOR IT.

CORRECT. IT WAS THE ACCESS WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROPERTY AND THAT IT WAS PROPERTY THAT WAS IN THE COUNTY.

SO AGAIN, OUR CODE WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR THAT TO OCCUR OR IN OUR IT J EXCUSE ME AND THEN THIS ONE.

YES, THE CHURCH IS AMENABLE TO THIS AND ACTUALLY IS DESIRING TO HAVE THIS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CATHERINE DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. TWO QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS HOW TALL A TOWER OR ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURE ARE YOU ALLOWED TO BUILD BY? RIGHT, IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ASKING FOR A FRIEND.

RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS DO NOT ALLOW TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWERS OR ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURES ARE.

OUR DISTRICT DOES ALLOW IT, BUT THE REST OF OUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS DO NOT ALLOW THE USE.

WHEN WE SAY COMMUNICATIONS, THAT'S WHAT KIND OF FALLS INTO THAT.

WHAT DELINEATES WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY FROM ANTENNA ON YOUR HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THIS WOULD SO THIS WOULD BE A A TOWER OWNED

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BY A TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE A TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER UP TO 85 FEET COULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THE SC DISTRICT AND THEN AN ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A STEALTH TOWER.

SO ONE THAT IS MAYBE DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING ELSE COULD GO UP TO 100 FEET AND GO AHEAD, SCOTT.

WELL, I JUST MIGHT ADD TO THAT, THAT'S THE REALLY THE PRIMARY USE IS WHAT THAT IS, RATHER THAN IT BEING ACCESSORY TO, I.E., A TELEVISION ANTENNA ON SOMEONE'S HOME OR MAYBE A BROADCAST TOWER, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE USED FOR BROADCAST COMMUNICATIONS, TELECOMMUNICATIONS.

AND THEN MY RELATED QUESTION IS HELP ME UNDERSTAND ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURE.

AND I'VE SEEN SOME CELL TOWERS THAT ARE MEANT TO LOOK LIKE TREES DON'T REALLY THEY'RE TRYING TO LIKE HELP ME UNDERSTAND ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURE VERSUS TOWER STEALTH TOWER WHAT THESE TERMS MEAN.

WELL THAT WOULD IT IS ESSENTIALLY ONE DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING ELSE.

THE CODE ISN'T PRESCRIPTIVE ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE.

SO IF THIS ZONING WAS WAS APPROVED, THEN THEY WOULD MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR AN ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURE.

STAFF WOULD REVIEW THAT AND DETERMINE CURRENTLY I BELIEVE THEIR THEIR PROPOSAL WOULD BE SOME SORT OF CHURCH TOWER, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MATCH THAT RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE.

BUT IT COULD BE IN IT COULD BE THE TREE OR THE CACTUS OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF DISGUISE.

SO IS THAT PART OF THE CODE THEN YOU MENTIONED, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE A CHURCH SPIRE OR SOMETHING OR A CHURCH TOWER OR A CAMPANILE OR SOMETHING.

IS THAT WRITTEN TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A WATER TOWER, YOU COULD PUT SOME CELL EQUIPMENT ON IT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A PARTICULARLY TALL STRUCTURE THAT'S ARCHITECTURALLY PART OF YOUR BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING HAS A ZEPPELIN MAP MAST ON THE TOP OF IT.

YOU COULD PUT COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT ON THAT, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT TELECOMMUNICATIONS TYPE USE.

IT MAY BE JUST AN ANTENNA OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF USE.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE CODE TO SEE IF IT WOULD HOW IT WOULD INTERACT WITH SOMETHING LIKE A WATER TOWER, AN EXISTING CHURCH SPIRE.

I THINK YOU STARTED TO ANSWER MY QUESTION A SECOND AGO.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SEPARATE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IN ADDITION TO THE ZONING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YES, SIR. RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WATTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMEMBER BECK'S QUESTION.

MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, ABOUT WHAT IS EXACTLY THE CODE LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRES AND THE ACCESS FROM ONE ZONING TO ANOTHER THAT THAT ACCESS ZONING HAS TO ALLOW THOSE USES TO THE SECONDARY ZONING. I KNOW WE HAD A SITUATION LIKE THAT, I THINK ON 380 WITH SOME APARTMENTS AND SOME RETAIL AND I KNOW THAT IT ORIGINATED IN THE CITY WHERE WE HAD ANNEX PROPERTY SORT OF NEXT TO NON ANNEXED PROPERTY.

BUT DOES OUR CODE SPECIFICALLY EXPRESSLY ADDRESS THIS ISSUE THAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY? I DON'T THINK IT CALLS IT OUT AS EXPLICITLY AS WHAT YOU WOULD OR PROBABLY LOOKING FOR.

I THINK WHAT HAS BEEN IS AN INTERPRETATION WHICH BASICALLY SAYS YOUR PROPERTY HAS TO BE ZONED ACCORDINGLY TO WHATEVER LAND YOU ARE GOING TO PUT ON IT.

AND THAT INCLUDES YOUR ACCESS DRIVE.

YOUR ACCESS DRIVE IS A COMPONENT PART BECAUSE IT HAS A DENSITY COMPONENT TO IT AS WELL THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAND USE.

SO IT'S BEEN MORE OF THAT INTERPRETATION OF PROPERTY USE INCLUDES THE ACCESS DRIVE.

SO IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING IS EXPLICITLY AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, THERE'S NOTHING AS EXPLICIT AS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ACCESS DRIVE AND AS IT ALLOWED TO GO OVER DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

IT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED. AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT PROBABLY IS A GOOD IDEA TO TO TAKE IT UP AND TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THE INTERPRETATION FOR A LONG TIME.

THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN ADOPTED AND IMPLEMENTED MAKES THE SENSE IN SOME SITUATIONS.

IT MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD. SOMETIMES IT GETS ABSURD.

SO IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED AND THOUGHT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I MEAN, WE CAN THINK OF ALL KINDS OF EXAMPLES, BUT.

IF SOMEONE IS I MEAN YOU CAN BUILD INTO THAT EXPRESSED CODE THAT IF THE PRIMARY ACCESS ZONING OR PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT DESIRE IT, WELL THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR SOLUTION.

BUT I THINK TO BASE IT ON INTERPRETATION, SOMETIMES WE FOUND OURSELVES IN DIFFICULTY.

SO I'D REALLY ENCOURAGE US TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO, I GUESS THAT'S THE CRC OR SOMETHING TO FIGURE OUT OR THE COUNCIL.

HOW DO WE CODIFY THIS IN A WAY THAT'S PREDICTABLE AND IS APPLIED EVENLY THROUGHOUT THESE SITUATIONS AND I THINK ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OCCUR THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

SO THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, YOU HAD ME THINKING.

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I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY YOU WERE TALKING.

I'M SURE YOU WERE SAYING SOME IMPORTANT STUFF, BUT I WAS WONDERING HOW TALL IS OPTIMUS PRIME AND HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE? SO I MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I'M BACK.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE A TRANSFORMER LITERALLY.

NEVERMIND. SO LET'S THE APPLICANT.

THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO. I HAVE TWO NAMES HERE.

SO YOU TELL ME.

SO I HAVE CHRIS RIC WARTS AND WILLIAM FRANCIS.

OK. GOT IT. OK, PLEASE.

YES. IF I MIGHT, MAYOR, JUST TO COUNCILMEMBER WATTS QUESTION AND STATEMENT.

I AGREE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND REALLY TALKING THROUGH THIS IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS TO HOW TO APPLY IT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

I JUST WANT TO CAUTION COUNCIL WITH AS WE THINK THROUGH THIS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO LOOK AT DOING SPOT ZONING EITHER TO WHERE IT IS THAT WE'RE JUST PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE CENTER OF ANOTHER USE.

SO WE WANT TO TRY TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO WHERE IT IS THAT THIS MAY AND MAY NOT APPLY AND THAT JUST IN THIS CASE, WE JUST NEED TO BE CAREFUL, JUST AS A REMINDER.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO, MR. FRANCIS, YOU ARE.

YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLE, SO.

SO YOU'LL HAVE I THINK THAT'S 20 MINUTES TOTAL.

YES, SIR. OKAY, GREAT.

AND SO IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN.

YOUR TIME WILL START.

YES, SIR. THEN WE ALL DID RECEIVE THE BINDER'S.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ON BEB FRANCIS 112 EAST PACKAN IN SAN ANTONIO.

I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR DIAMOND COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH IS A NATIONAL DEVELOPER OF TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES, DIAMOND AND THE ASBURY LEADERSHIP.

UNITED METHODIST CHURCH LEADERSHIP HAS WORKED ON THIS SITE FOR TWO YEARS, OVER TWO YEARS, ACTUALLY.

AND JULIE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROPOSAL, THE ZONING AND SO FORTH, SINCE APRIL OF 2020.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PAID THAT MUCH ATTENTION BECAUSE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT GAP IN T-MOBILE'S VOICE AND DATA SERVICE.

AND THE REASON THAT THE GAP IS OCCURRING, AS JULIE POINTED OUT, AND YOU CERTAINLY KNOW YOUR CITY IS MAGNIFICENT GROWING, YOU'RE BRINGING IN NEW RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT WITH THAT CREATES AN INCREDIBLE DEMAND ON YOUR WIRELESS SERVICE.

AND AS SHOWN BY THE PEWS INSTITUTE, NEXT YEAR, THERE WILL BE OVER 285 MILLION USERS OF SMARTPHONES IN 1.5 CELL PHONES FOR EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD IN THE UNITED STATES.

ADDITIONALLY, OVER 60% OF RESIDENCES HAVE CUT THE CORD AND ARE TOTALLY WIRELESS DEPENDENT.

SO MERRY MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU AND YOUR RESIDENTS ARE DEMANDING SEAMLESS WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY, WITH THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD NOW HAVING A MINIMUM OF FIVE WIRELESS DEVICES.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLDS, YOU FAR, PROBABLY FAR EXCEED THAT NUMBER.

AGAIN, OVER 60% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS ARE COMPLETELY WIRELESS DEPENDENT.

YOU HAVE NEW RESIDENTS REQUIRING SMART THINGS, THE INTERNET OF THINGS AND THE ADVENT OF THE MIRACULOUS, IF YOU WOULD, WIRELESS MEDICAL DEVICES SUCH AS THE CARDIO, WHERE YOU PUT TWO FINGERS ON THE DEVICE AND ELECTRONICALLY, WIRELESSLY, YOU GET YOUR EKG.

ONE OF THE UPSIDES, IF WE CAN FIND ONE OF THE PANDEMIC IS FOR THE FIRST TIME, INSURANCE COMPANIES RECOGNIZE THAT VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH YOUR DOCTORS ARE INSURED MEETINGS.

NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY.

85% OF E911 ONE CALLS ARE PLACED BY WIRELESS DEVICES.

AND WE HAVE TO ALWAYS FOCUS ON THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE THOSE REVERSE 911 ALERTS THAT WAKE US UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE THE COVERAGE AND ALERT YOU TO AN IMPENDING POTENTIAL DISASTER, YOUR CITY IS WAY AHEAD.

YOU'RE ON YOUR WEBSITE.

YOU'RE TELLING YOUR RESIDENTS, SIGN UP, SIGN UP FOR THE NOTIFICATIONS, GET YOUR WIRELESS TEXT.

AND AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY, WHAT HAS HAPPENED ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS YOURS? IT SOCIAL MEDIA IS NO LONGER JUST LOOKED AT AS A WAY TO ANNOUNCE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.

IT'S A CRITICAL PUBLIC SAFETY CONNECTION, NOT BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHEN ONE ALERT CENTERS ARE DOWN, THEY'RE OVERLOADED.

BUT YOUR RESIDENTS CAN DIRECT MESSAGE YOU THROUGH ALL THE PLATFORMS OF WHICH YOU ALL ARE PART OF.

QUICKLY, I WANT TO RUN THROUGH THE THREE STEPS THAT BROUGHT US TO THIS AND THE EXCITEMENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT.

FIRST OF ALL, T-MOBILE DETERMINES THAT THERE IS A WIRELESS SERVICE NEED.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE A GAP IN THIS PORTION OF THE CITY, AND THEY CREATE WHAT'S CALLED A SEARCH RING BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY THAT JULIE TALKED ABOUT, THE RESIDENTIAL, THE

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SEARCH RING IS ONLY A QUARTER MILE, WHICH MEANS A TOWER HAS TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT QUARTER MILE TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THIS GAP.

DEMAND FIRST, RECOGNIZE, LOOK TO SEE.

ARE THERE ANY EXISTING TOWERS OR STRUCTURES THAT T-MOBILE CAN LOCATE ON? THERE ARE NONE. THEN THEY APPROACH AND TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S LAND AVAILABLE, LIKE THE COURT SAYS LEASABLE BUILDABLE AND DEVELOPABLE THE ABELS THEN THIS IS THE ONLY SITE THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

CEP TO DIAMOND SELECTS A SITE AND DESIGNS THE SITE.

THE SITE LOCATION IS DULY INDICATED.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER OF GOOGLE EARTH, BUT IT HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT THE CHURCH FACILITY, THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE STRUCTURE BEING TUCKED IN AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE FACILITY.

SO IT IS SEEN AS A FEATURE OF THE CHURCH FACILITY.

YOU HAD THE TREE LINE, THEN YOU HAVE THE HIGH ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION TOWERS AND THE SUBSTANTIAL MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY TO THE WEST.

THE CURRENT ZONING, AS JULIE DISCUSSED WITH YOU AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR TWO YEARS, SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB RUNNING THROUGH THAT WITH YOU.

THE SC CORRIDOR PROVIDES THAT ALTERNATIVE MOUNTING STRUCTURES.

AND COUNCILMAN DAVIS, THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE MAXIMUM.

HIDE IN SEA OF AN ALTERNATIVE MOUNTAIN STRUCTURE IS 100 FEET.

NOW, THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE STRUCTURE, VERY QUICKLY, THE DESIGN, AS YOU SAW, BASICALLY THE GOOGLE EARTH, IT IS A COMPOUND THAT IS PLACED AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE CHURCH FACILITY TO BECOME A FEATURE OF THE FACILITY.

IT WILL BE A CMU PAINTED WALL THAT WILL MATCH THE CHURCH AND THE TOWER THAT, JUST FOR DEPICTION PURPOSES, IS A STEALTH CONTAINMENT TOWER, WHICH MEANS ALL THE ANTENNAS HAVE TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

THEN T-MOBILE PREPARES WHAT ARE CALLED THE PROPAGATION MAPS.

ONCE THE SITE'S BEEN DETERMINED, THEN THEY GET WITH THE RF ENGINEERS.

AND SO IT WILL THIS ADDRESS OUR GAP.

THEY'VE PROVIDED YOU WITH A LETTER OF JUSTIFICATION, AGAIN ECHOING THERE ARE NO FACILITIES UPON WHICH THEY CAN CO-LOCATE.

NOW, IF WE MAY LOOK AT QUICKLY AT THE RF MAPS, AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE WHY THIS IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY, THIS IS THE EXISTING COVERAGE.

THE GRAY AREA IS OUTDOOR ONLY, WHICH MEANS LIKELIHOOD OF RESIDENCES WITHIN THAT AREA HAVE TO EITHER GO OUTSIDE OR HAVE INTERRUPTED SERVICE INSIDE TO MAKE AND RECEIVE CALLS.

IF YOU LOOK KIND OF IN THE CENTER OF THE GRAY AREA TO THE NORTH, SURROUNDED BY THE RED ICON.

SO THESE RED ICONS ARE WHERE T-MOBILE HAVE EXISTING TOWERS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNIFICANT INDOOR COVERAGE.

SO IF YOU'LL FOCUS IT TO THE NORTH, YOU'LL SEE WHY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS WHAT THE TOWER WILL BRING TO THIS AREA, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE HIGHWAY, BACK TO WHAT IS EXISTING, TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. ADDITIONALLY, THIS TOWER IS NECESSARY TO OFFLOAD SOME OF THE ONE ONE CALLS THAT ARE BEING HANDLED BY THE SURROUNDING T-MOBILE ANTENNAS. AS THE CITY ATTORNEY I'M SURE HAS DISCUSSED WITH YOU, THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT IS VERY SPECIFIC THAT IN MAKING DECISIONS LIKE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO MAKE TONIGHT, YOU CANNOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE EFFECTS, IF ANY OF WIRELESS EXCUSE ME, ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OR RADIOFREQUENCY EMISSIONS. BUT FOR YOUR BENEFIT, PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, THOSE WATCHING ONLINE, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO POINT OUT ABOUT THREE OF INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT THOROUGHLY STUDIED THIS.

THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS DETERMINED AFTER BEST STUDY, THERE'S NO CONVINCING SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT WEAK RADIO OR WEAK RF SIGNALS CAUSE ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS.

AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY HAS DONE AMAZING RESEARCH OVER THE YEARS AND CONCLUDED ARE UNLIKELY TO CAUSE CANCER NO INCREASED HEALTH RISKS DUE TO RADIO FREQUENCY BY THE US FDA.

SO MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST TO REZONE, WHICH WILL FACILITATE THE ABILITY TO RESOLVE THAT SIGNIFICANT GAP IN SERVICE.

WE'VE SHOWN THAT THE GAP EXISTS.

WE HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE IS NO AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE SITE THAT WOULD REMEDY THE GAP, AND A DENIAL WOULD ESSENTIALLY MATERIALLY INHIBIT T-MOBILE'S ABILITY TO RESOLVE ITS SERVICE NEEDS OR IMPROVE ITS SERVICE CAPABILITIES.

IN FINAL CONCLUSION, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH US.

JULIE IS PROBABLY FIELDED A LAUGH WITH HER 100 TELEPHONE CALLS FROM US TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU THE ABSOLUTE BEST APPLICATION WE CAN.

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NEXT, WE'LL BE JOINED BY PASTOR CHRIS RICK WALTERS, WHO WILL DISCUSS WITH YOU WHO IS THE PASTOR OF THE ASBURY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YES. PLEASE.

MR. MAYOR. JUST MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CHRIS.

I LIVE REPORTS. I LIVE AT 2106 FAIR OAKS CIRCLE IN CORINTH, TEXAS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE ON BEHALF.

AND I BRING YOU GREETINGS FROM ASBURY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

WE HAVE SOME OF OUR MEMBERS HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

WE WERE VERY INTERESTED IN THESE PROCEEDINGS AND THE FUTURE OF OUR CHURCH.

ASBURY WAS STARTED IN THE 1950S UNDER A BRUSH ARBOR.

THEY PRETTY SOON BUILT THE BUILDING THEY USED TO EXIST AT UNIVERSITY AND ELM.

THEY'RE BUILDING IS STILL THERE. IT'S A DAYCARE CENTER NOW.

BUT IN THE EARLY 2000S, THEY MOVED NORTH, ANTICIPATING GROWTH AND DENTON WANTING TO BE A PART OF THE GROWTH THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN OUT THERE AND WANTING TO TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

MOVING TO DENTON, OF COURSE, THAT GROWTH DID NOT MATERIALIZE AS QUICKLY AS THEY HAD HOPED.

BUT IT IS COMING NOW.

AS YOU'VE SEEN ON THE MAPS.

OUR DESIRE IS TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

WE BELIEVE WE HAVE THE MANDATE FROM THE SCRIPTURE AND FROM JESUS TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

NOW, I'VE PREACHED A MILLION SERMONS ON WHY THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE NEXT TO YOU, BUT IN THIS CASE IT ABSOLUTELY IS THE PEOPLE NEXT TO US.

WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A FOOD PANTRY THAT WE SERVE FOOD OUT OF.

WE WE DESIRE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

AND SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS, THIS TOWER AND THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AS A CHURCH, WE ASK THAT YOU CHANGE OUR ZONING SO THAT WE CAN RECEIVE THIS TOWER AND THE REVENUE THAT IT WILL BRING TO OUR CHURCH.

THE PANDEMIC WAS TOUGH ON OUR CHURCH AS IT WAS MANY SMALL CHURCHES, AND WE ARE BEING AS CREATIVE AS POSSIBLE WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.

ONE OF THE REASONS WE MOVED NORTH WAS BECAUSE WE WERE LANDLOCKED IN THE MIDDLE OF DENTON AND WE WE NEEDED PARKING, WE NEED MORE SPACE.

AND WE DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY ANY CHANGE TO THAT SPACE, BUT WE REALIZE IT'S ONE OF OUR GREATEST ASSETS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

OK SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEE NONE. I'LL TAKE EMOTION OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR DISCUSSION.

AND IF THERE'S ANY AND NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ONE, ANYONE ELSE WHO'D WANT TO SPEAK, IT'S IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE I CLOSE IT.

YOU JUST NEED TO FILL OUT A BLUE CARD AFTERWARDS.

CNO ONE MOVING ON. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MAYOR PRO TEM. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL.

I KNOW. AND YOU HEARD ME ENUNCIATE.

THERE'S CONCERNS WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND I THINK COUNCILOR WATTS ECHOED SOME OF THOSE WHERE I THINK WE HAVE SOME ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, SOME GROWTH.

WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THIS BETTER.

I DO WORRY ABOUT THE THE IMPACTS OF UNINTENTIONAL ZONING, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, WITH THE OWNERS BEING IN APPROVAL AND THE COVERAGE OF THE OF THE AREA, THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES MATCHING THE COMMUNITY AREA, I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL.

COUNCILOR DAVIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL SECOND AS AND AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES VERY NEARBY.

SC AND M REZONINGS.

IT IS GOOD TO HAVE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE FOLKS IN POSSESSION OF THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS AND THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE COGNIZANT OF THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE THERE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS INTERESTS.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SECONDING THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION.

CNN. I WILL SAY THIS.

I WENT ROUND. YEP.

WHAT? OH.

WHAT? YES.

COUNCILMAN. BYRD. I WOULD STILL.

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE CELL TOWER THAT'S UP NEAR 288.

AND WOODROW AND I REMEMBER US PUTTING THAT CELL TOWER UP THERE AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE A TREE TO BLEND IN WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND SO OVER THE YEARS, I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN THERE, IT MIGHT BE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW.

AND I JUST CLEARLY SEE IT NOW BECAUSE IN THE WINTERTIME, IT'S STILL GREEN LIKE EVERGREEN.

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DOES ANYBODY ELSE KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA OF US BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND PARTNERING TO CONNECT, YOU KNOW, THE FACILITY WITH THIS TOWER.

SO I'M CERTAIN I'LL BE AGREEING WITH IT.

THANKS. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH THE CHURCH.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS, AND THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS PROCEEDINGS.

THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT.

YOU'VE DONE SOME IMPRESSIVE THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT MORE YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THERE.

THE WORK IS PLENTIFUL, BUT THE WORKERS ARE FEW.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SITTING? I'LL SAY FOR THOSE THAT WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WERE THERE WERE DISSENTING OPINIONS OF THIS.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT I TOOK THIS.

THEIR QUESTIONS TO HEART HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF BEHIND THE SCENES AND GOT WAS ABLE TO GET SOME SEMI COMFORTABLE BUT THEN THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY WERE VERY GOOD TO HELP ME KIND OF BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING FORWARD.

AND THEN ALSO JUST FROM A CONSISTENCY STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A T-MOBILE TOWER, BUT FOR ME IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT LIKE USES IN THE AREA.

AND SO THERE'S THAT OTHER IT'S BEHIND THE IT USED TO BE THE RENTAL PLACE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, BUT IT'S ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF MILE AND YEAH, A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF AWAY AND IT'S ABOUT A THREE MINUTE DRIVE, SO KIND OF CONSISTENT AND IT'S NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SORT OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

SO KIND OF LIKE COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS TOUCHED ON, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEE WHAT A THAT SAME USE LOOKS LIKE IN A FACILITY IN AN AREA.

SO I APPRECIATE STAFF'S HELP KIND OF DOING THAT RESEARCH AND UNDERSTANDING.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, PASTOR, TO YOU AND YOUR YOUR CONGREGATION.

THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND MORE CLOSELY KNIT TO YOUR TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, SEEING NONE.

LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

IN THAT PASS THE SEVEN ZERO AND TAKES US TO ITEM OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ITEM B WHICH IS AESA22000 TO BE

[B. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas approving an Alternative Environmentally Sensitive Area Plan for a site generally located on the southwest side of the intersection of Western Boulevard and Jim Christal Road, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas adopting an amendment to the city’s official Environmentally Sensitive Areas map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. (AESA22-0002b, Denton Exeter Addition No. 3, Onsite Development, Christi Upton)]

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, APPROVING AN ALTERNATIVE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA PLAN FOR THE SITE GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION OF WESTERN BOULEVARD AND JIM CRYSTAL ROAD.

NIKKI MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

KRISTY UPTON ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR.

AND TONIGHT I WILL BE PRESENTING AN ALTERNATIVE ESSAY PLAN.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT SEEN OR HEARD AN ALTERNATIVE ESSAY PLAN.

REAL QUICKLY, THESE ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS OR AREAS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS HAVING A SPECIAL NEED TO BE PROTECTED.

AND THE ALTERNATIVE ISA PLAN IS A PLAN THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PRESENTING TO YOU AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA, AS IS OUTLINED IN THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND SO WITH THAT AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS IS A 96 ACRE SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WESTERN BOULEVARD AND JIM CHRYSTAL ROAD.

ON AUGUST 10TH, THERE WAS A FINAL PLAT THAT WAS CONDITIONALLY APPROVED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, CONDITIONALLY UPON THE APPROVAL OF THIS ALTERNATIVE ISSA PLAN.

AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A TEMPORARILY DISTURBING 0.47 ACRES OF A RIPARIAN BUFFER.

RIPARIAN BUFFERS ARE THOSE VEGETATED AREAS THAT SURROUND NATURAL WATERWAYS, AND THAT HABITAT HELPS TO PREVENT EROSION OF THE THE STREAM AND TO PROVIDE A WILDLIFE RESOURCE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE AREA WAS FOUND TO HAVE AN UNDEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN.

NOW THE REQUEST TO PLACE THE STORM DRAIN IN THE UNDEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN IS IS A PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

SO THIS REQUEST IS STRICTLY FOR THE RIPARIAN BUFFER ENCROACHMENT.

SO THE PURPOSE IS TO CONSTRUCT THESE TWO STORMWATER OUTFALLS.

AND THEN THE THE ALTERNATIVE ISA PLAN IS IN THE MITIGATION IS TO REVEGETATE THE IMPACTED AREAS AND TO REVEGETATE A GREATER EXPANSE ACROSS THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA WITH A NATIVE SEED MIX THAT'S

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ADAPTED TO THESE DRAIN FIELDS.

THERE WERE NOTIFICATIONS SENT.

THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN WHICH THERE WERE NO ATTENDEES AND THERE WERE NO RESPONSES TO THE NOTIFICATIONS.

THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL.

REAL QUICKLY, TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE IS TO LIMIT THAT DISTURBANCE TO THE .47 ACRES AND THEN WITHIN 14 DAYS TO REVEGETATE THOSE STORMWATER OUTFALLS AND THEN TO ESTABLISH THAT NATIVE VEGETATION ACROSS A 3.81 ACRE, WHICH IS AN 8 TO 1 RATIO.

AND THEN WITHIN THREE YEARS THERE WILL BE THREE ANNUAL REPORTS AND BASED UPON THOSE REPORTS, A REPLACEMENT OF ANY DEAD VEGETATION.

AND THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL ACCEPT ALL LIABILITY FOR ANY OF THE NEEDS TO REPLACE THAT VEGETATION.

AND THEN UPON THE THREE YEARS, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES WILL ACCEPT THE PROJECT.

AND WITH THAT I WILL ON FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. AND I HOPE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THEY DON'T FORGET MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I KIND OF KEEP A SHARP EYE ON A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS.

AND I WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR REALLY NARROWLY TARGETING AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE WATCHING THIS AREA REALLY CLOSELY.

WE'RE GETTING AN EXPANSION OF OF NATIVE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE AREAS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I THINK STOPPED A REALLY GOOD JOB ON BEING MINDFUL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CNN COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN.

WHAT'S WHAT. LET ME.

ANY. ANY. IT'S A PUBLIC OPEN MIC ITEM.

SO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK CAN IF YOU JUST COME DOWN AND THEN FILL OUT A BLUE CARD AFTERWARDS.

ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK.

OKAY, GREAT.

I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM FIVE BE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. BERT, MY SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.

WHAT'S THE SECOND? BY COUNCILWOMAN.

BYRD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING? NONE. THAT'S VOTE ON A SCREEN.

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US.

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton determining the public use, need, and necessity for the acquisition of various (I) permanent water easements (II) permanent wastewater easements, (III) permanent electric easements, and (VI) temporary construction easements, generally located along Interstate 35 North, U.S. Highway 380 (University Drive) to U.S. Highway 77 to Milam Road, situated in the BBB & C RR CO Survey, Abstract No. 141, Ignacio De-Los-Santos Coy Survey, Abstract No. 212, S. Johnson Survey, Abstract No. 683, Alexander White Survey, Abstract No. 1406, John Ayers Survey, Abstract No. 2, Francis Batson Survey, Abstract No. 43, Nathan Wade Survey, Abstract No. 1407, Eugene Puchalski Survey, Abstract No. 996, BBB & C RR CO Survey, Abstract No. 192, all in the City and County of Denton, Texas, and more particularly described in the attached Exhibit “A” (collectively, the “Property Interests”); authorizing the City Manager and City Attorney, to acquire the Property Interests by agreement if possible, including making all offers required by law; authorizing the use of the power of eminent domain to condemn the property interests if agreement cannot be reached; authorizing the City Attorney, to file eminent domain proceedings if necessary; authorizing the expenditure of funding; making findings; providing a savings clause; and providing an effective date.]

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, TAKES US TO ITEM SIX ON OUR AGENDA.

AND UNDER THAT, IT'S INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

IT'S ITEM A ID 221513.

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, DETERMINING THE PUBLIC USE, NEED AND NECESSITY FOR ACQUISITION OF VARIOUS PERMANENT WATER EASEMENTS, PERMANENT WASTEWATER EASEMENTS, PERMANENT ELECTRIC EASEMENTS AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT JUST GENERALLY, GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG I-35, INTERSTATE 35, NORTH US HIGHWAY 380, UNIVERSITY TO US HIGHWAY 77 TO MOLLAND ROAD SITUATED IN THE B-BBEE AND C RRC SURVEY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL DEANNA CODY, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REAL ESTATE.

THE ITEM WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS RELATING TO UTILITY RELOCATIONS, NECESSITY NECESSITATED BY THE STATE EXPANSION ALONG 35. THE TEXTILE PROJECT REQUIRES THE RELOCATION OF EXISTING CITY WATER, WASTEWATER AND ELECTRIC LINES INTO NEW EASEMENTS AND THE PURCHASE OF TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS TO HELP FACILITATE THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THE PROJECT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RELOCATIONS ARE REIMBURSABLE BY TECH STOCK AND 2020 KIMLEY-HORN WAS CONTRACTED TO DESIGN THE PROJECT AND TO ACQUIRE THE EASEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT.

RELOCATION. THE LOCATION MAP THAT YOU SEE DISPLAYS THE LENGTH OF THE CURRENT THREE SEGMENTS OF PROJECT, BEGINNING WITH SECTION 90, WHICH IS IN FUCHSIA, AND THAT'S FROM THE EI 35 SPLIT UP TO US 380 SECTION 87 YOU'LL SEE IN LIME GREEN FROM 380 UP TO US 77 AND THEN CONTINUING ON NORTHWARD SECTION 74, WHICH YOU SEE IN A TEAL BLUE COLOR FROM 377 UP TO MY LM, KIMLEY-HORN HAS IDENTIFIED A TOTAL OF 44 WATER, WASTEWATER AND ELECTRIC EASEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THESE THREE SEGMENTS, IF THERE ARE ANY IF THERE HAPPEN TO BE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ALIGNMENT AND

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PLANNED RELOCATION.

WE DO HAVE STAFF LEADERSHIP HERE FROM FROM THE WATER WASTEWATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, ENGINEERING CIP, AND I BELIEVE DMAE IS ALSO HERE AS WELL. BECAUSE OF THE CRITICAL TIMING ASSOCIATED WITH RELOCATING THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ITEM AND SAID APPROVAL WILL AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ACQUIRE THE NECESSARY PROPERTY INTERESTS, INCLUDING MAKING ALL OFFERS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW.

IN THE EVENT THE CONSULTANTS AND OR STAFF ARE UNABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS ITEM WILL ALSO AUTHORIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY INTERESTS IF NECESSARY.

FINALLY, I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE A MOTION BEFORE YOU THAT WILL AUTHORIZE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

AGAIN, THERE ARE 44 PARCELS AND WE DO HAVE A LIST OF APPROXIMATELY 145 PAGES OF SURVEYS TO BE DISPLAYED.

SO UPON THE READING OF A FAVORABLE MOTION AND RECEIPT OF A SECOND, STAFF WILL BEGIN DISPLAYING THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS FOR EACH PROPERTY INTEREST NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT.

GREAT, COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF DENTON, AFTER HAVING MADE THE OFFERS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, USE THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN IF NEEDED TO ACQUIRE VARIOUS PERMANENT WATER EASEMENTS, PERMANENT WASTEWATER EASEMENTS, PERMANENT ELECTRIC EASEMENTS AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG INTERSTATE 35, NORTH US HIGHWAY 380, UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO US HIGHWAY 77 TO MILAM ROAD, SITUATED IN THE B, B, B AND C RAILROAD CO SURVEY.

ABSTRACT NUMBER 141.

IGNACIO DE LA SANTOS COY SURVEY.

ABSTRACT NUMBER 212 SW JOHNSON SURVEY.

ABSTRACT NUMBER 683 ALEXANDER WHITE SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1406 JOHN AYERS SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER TWO FRANCIS BATSON SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER FOUR THREE.

NATHAN WADE SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1407 EUGENE PULASKI SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 996B, B AND C RAILROAD CO SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 192 ALL IN THE CITY OF DENTON, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A TO THE ORDINANCE NOW UNDER CONSIDERATION AND ON THE SCREEN TO BE DISPLAYED TO THE AUDIENCE, ALL OF WHICH ARE FOR A VALID PUBLIC USE NECESSARY TO RELOCATE THE CITY'S UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE OUT OF THE STATE.

INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 NORTH, RIGHT OF WAY INTO NEW EASEMENTS TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF DENTON.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BYRD.

I SECOND OK.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

AND THEN IS THERE ANY ANY QUESTIONS? OK STARTING WITH PARCEL ONE.

PARCEL TWO.

PARCEL EIGHT.

PARCEL 11.

PARCEL 14.

PARCEL 16.

PARCEL TWO FOR THE SECOND SEGMENT.

PARCEL THREE.

PARCEL FOUR.

PARCEL FIVE.

PARCEL SIX.

PARCEL EIGHT.

PARCEL NINE AND PARCEL 14.

PARCEL 15 A PARCEL 15 B PARCEL 16.1.

PARCELS 17 AND 18.

PARCEL 19.

PARCEL 20.

PARCEL 21.

PARCEL 25.

PASSEL 36 AND 37.

PARCEL 30. EIGHT.

PARCEL 39.

PARCEL 40.

PARCEL FIVE.

PARCEL SIX.

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PARCEL NINE.

PARCEL TEN.

PARCEL 11.

PARCEL 16.

PARCEL 17.

PARCEL 19.1.

FIRST OF ALL. 19.2.

19.3. PARTIAL 20.

AND PARTIAL 24.

AND PARTIAL 25.

AND PARTIAL 26.

PARCEL 27 AND PARCEL 27 WAS THE LAST.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. LET PASS THE SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

[A. Consider an appointment to the Development Code Review Committee.]

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

THAT TAKES US TO ITEM SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION VERSUS ITEM A ID 221038.

CONSIDER AN APPOINTMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A PRESENTATION? NO. I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY, GREAT.

THEN WE HAVE TWO NOMINEES DURING OUR BACKUP, AND I'M GOING TO.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S. I JUST WANT TO SORT.

SET THE TABLE FOR THE FACTS.

SO WE'RE WE'RE REPLACING PLANNING AND ZONING CHAIRWOMAN ELLIS BECAUSE SHE'S TERMED OUT ON THE DENTON CODE, THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS SHE.

SHE IS. IT'S PENDING THAT SHE WILL.

YEAH, IT'S PENDING AT THE END OF AT THE END OF AUGUST I BELIEVE.

YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE TIM SMITH.

TIM'S BEEN SERVING ON THE PLANNING ZONING NOW FOR I THINK FOUR YEARS.

OR HE MIGHT EVEN BE ON HIS LAST TWO YEAR TERM.

HE DID SERVE ON THE DC ARC PRIOR TO LAST YEAR WHERE HE WAS REPLACED WITH JORDAN VILLAREAL, WHO WAS A NEW MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND WAS A NEW MEMBER OF PLANNING, ZONING AND A NEW MEMBER OF THAT CODE COMMITTEE.

THE APPOINTMENT ARGUABLY COULD BE SAID IT WAS IT WAS MADE UNDER QUESTIONABLE FACTS.

TIM HAS GOT AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE ON PLANNING AND ZONING RIGHT NOW.

I THINK CHAIRWOMAN ELLIS WAS THE LONGEST SERVING MEMBER.

SHE HAD SIX YEARS EXPERIENCE ON P AND Z.

COMMITTEE MEMBER VILLAREAL HAS ONE YEAR AND I BELIEVE MR. PRUITT HAS TWO YEARS.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY ON THERE THAT HAS SOME EXPERIENCE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT MR. SMITH HAS DEMONSTRATED THROUGH HIS SERVICE ON PLANNING AND ZONING AND ALSO HIS PRIOR SERVICE TO THE COMMITTEE THAT HE'S WELL QUALIFIED TO DO THAT.

SO I WOULD MAKE THAT NOMINATION.

GOT IT. AND SO TO THAT END, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THAT WE NOMINATE COMMISSIONER TIM SMITH TO BE REJOINED THAT COMMITTEE.

AND I WANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT IT'S COUNCILMAN WATTS.

THIS WAS COMPELLING TO ME THAT IT'S COUNCILMEMBER WATTS'S APPOINTEE PER SE THAT'S ROLLING OFF.

AND SO I THINK IT ONLY RIGHT TO SUPPORT WHO HE THINKS IS BEST TO FILL THAT SEAT.

THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL ANALYSIS, BUT WANT IT TO BE TRANSPARENT IN THAT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK TIM EVEN CHAIRED THE P AND Z FOR A BIT, BUT YEAH, HIS, HIS, HIS EXPERIENCE AND, AND IN THAT SPACE AND HE'LL HE'LL FEEL THAT THAT VOID.

WELL OC MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS MR. SMITH, BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THIS BODY TO APPOINT OR NOT APPOINT PEOPLE TO THIS COMMITTEE OR OTHERS OF OF THIS SORT OF NATURE FOLLOWING THE MAYOR'S SORT OF RATIONALE THAT MAY BE COMPELLING TO THE MAYOR, BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THIS BODY.

I ALSO WILL SAY THAT THAT COUNCILOR WATTS, I WOULD REQUEST THAT HE BE MINDFUL OF KEEPING HIS COMMENTS TO THE QUALIFICATIONS OF HIS NOMINEES AND AVOID.

DEMEANING OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE EXISTING CURRENTLY SERVING.

I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION.

AND THEN IF I COULD SPEAK TO THE MOTION, PLEASE.

YES. SO A QUICK WORD ABOUT THE CRC FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO BE A PART OF OUR

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DELIBERATIONS BEFORE.

SO IT'S A BODY THAT DOES NOT DECIDE ANYTHING.

WE BASICALLY GET TOGETHER, WE NERD OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT.

THE STAFF EDUCATES US ON SOME PRACTICAL CONCERNS THEY HAVE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT PRACTICAL CONCERNS THEY HAVE WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEN WITH STAFF'S GUIDANCE, WE BRAINSTORM SOLUTIONS.

LOSING MARGIE ELLIS IS GOING TO BE A BLOW TO THAT GROUP AND IN A NUMBER OF WAYS AT A PERSONAL LEVEL, BUT ALSO IN THAT ONE OF THE STRENGTHS THAT SHE BROUGHT.

SO. NOTICEABLY TO THAT COMMITTEE IS THAT SHE HAD SEEN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ZONING CASES.

AND WHEN STAFF SAID SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LOT LIKE A ZONING CASE OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN.

AND REALLY, WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THESE KIND OF CONCERNS, JUST THE KIND OF STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT IN TONIGHT'S ZONING CASE.

THEN MARGIE WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ABOUT ANOTHER CASE THAT PRESENTS EXACTLY YOUR POINT OR IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE OR IS RELEVANT TO THIS CONVERSATION.

AND SHE'S ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE SHE HAD THE EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS TO WORK THROUGH, NOT JUST HAVING ALL THOSE CASES IN HER HEAD, BUT HAVING THOUGHT THROUGH EACH OF THEM DELIBERATELY AND THOUGHTFULLY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK TIM SMITH CAN ALSO BRING TO THIS BODY.

HE HAS THAT KNOWLEDGE, HAS THAT EXPERIENCE.

AND WHILE MARGIE IS IRREPLACEABLE, TIM HAS ALSO HAD THE BENEFIT OF BEING THROUGH HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ZONING CASES, HAVING THOUGHT CRITICALLY THROUGH ZONING CASES THAT CAME UNDER THE OLD DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEN NOW UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT HE WAS A PART OF DRAFTING UNDER THE OLD CCRC BEFORE WE REVAMPED IT AND MADE IT NOW A KIND OF POINT BY POINT REVISION BODY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A BODY THAT DOES A LOT OF UP OR DOWN VOTES.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NO'S COUNTING.

IT'S A LOT OF CONSENSUS BUILDING.

AND WHAT DO WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY? WHAT DO WE HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY? WHAT DO WE HEAR FROM STAFF AND WHAT BEST SERVES OUR CITY? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK TIM IS WELL SUITED TO DO.

AND I RECALL WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS NOMINATION LAST YEAR, SOME OF US KIND OF LAMENTED, GOSH, I WISH THERE WAS A SPOT FOR TIM SMITH ON THAT COMMITTEE.

I WISH WE HAD MORE SPOTS AVAILABLE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT TIM SMITH.

IT'S ABOUT FILLING THE SPOTS WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

SO WE NOW HAVE A SPOT AVAILABLE FOR HIM.

HE'S JUST THE PERSON TO FILL IT.

HE HAS JUST THE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE BASE THAT WE NEED, AND I THINK HE'D BE AN ASSET TO THAT GROUP.

THANK YOU. KINSMAN WHAT'S OK GOT IT.

OK WE HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING THEN LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

[B. Consider appointing a nominating committee to recommend appointees to serve on the Economic Development Partnership Board.]

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM B, WHICH IS ID 221500.

CONSIDER APPOINTING APPOINTING A NOMINEE.

APPOINTING A NOMINEE ANYWAY.

APPOINTING A NOMINEE TO COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND APPOINTEES TO SERVE ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD.

AND SO THIS ONE CAN BE KIND OF TRICKY.

SO IT'S YES, IT'S KIND OF META, THE WAY IT'S WORDED.

WE MAY NOT ACCEPT. YOU MAY NOT HAVE GIVEN HIM THE LESSON ON ONE.

ON ONE. MM.

YEAH. GOT IT.

OK. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

SO. AS THE MAYOR STATED, THE OBJECTIVE THIS EVENING IS TO APPOINT A NOMINATING COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND NOMINEES TO SERVE ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD.

SO THIS IS NOT THE ACTUAL NOMINEES.

THIS IS FOR THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE.

OH, I'M SORRY. WAYNE EMERSON, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY. SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS AND THE ORDINANCE.

IT REQUIRES THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPOINT THREE PEOPLE TO SERVE AS THE EDP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD NOMINATING COMMITTEE.

THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE SOLICITS NOMINATIONS, CONTACTS, NOMINEES, CONFIRMS ELIGIBILITY AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, AND PRESENTS A SLATE OF APPOINTEES TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO THIS NOMINATING COMMITTEE WILL CONSIST OF TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONE MEMBER OF THE DENTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH THE CHAMBER HAS SELECTED, JILL JESTER, AND THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE QUALIFIED FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE EDP BOARD SO THEY

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CAN BOTH BE ON THE COMMITTEE AND SERVE ON THE BOARD.

BOTH. SO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, COUNSEL, IS THE CONSIDERATION OF AN APPOINTMENT OF TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE MEMBER OF THE DENTON CHAMBER.

JILL JESTER, IN THIS CASE TO SERVE AS THE 2022 EDP NOMINATING COMMITTEE.

AND SO JUST A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND.

THERE IS ONE VACANT POSITION ON THE EDP BOARD.

TINA ALBERT, WHO WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER OVER AT PETERBILT, HAS VACATED THE POSITION.

AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE OPEN POSITIONS.

GOT IT. AND IS THERE QUALIFICATION IS THAT THAT'S LARGE EMPLOYER OR IS THAT A TOP 20 TAX PAYER? YES. GOT IT. OKAY.

GOT IT. COUNCILMAN.

SO, MR. ANDERSON, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE NOMINATING AN ENTIRE SLATE.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR INDIVIDUALS? THREE INDIVIDUALS.

THREE. ARE THEY? MY QUESTION IS EITHER COMMITTEE VOTES OR WE'RE HAVING A VOTE FOR A SINGLE SLATE.

YOU'LL KNOW.

LET ME. YEAH. THIS IS JUST THE COMMITTEE TO NOMINATE.

WHO? AND THERE'S ONE SEAT.

I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND.

SO THERE'S NO SLATE.

THERE'S ONE SEAT. NO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THIRD.

YEAH, THREE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD.

BUT YEAH. BUT THERE'S ONE SEAT TO BE FOR THEM TO NOMINATE, RIGHT.

YEAH. AND I MIGHT HAVE CONFUSED WHEN I ADDED THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THERE'S THERE BEING A VACANT POSITION ON THE BOARD THAT THIS COMMITTEE.

WILL ULTIMATELY SELECT THAT NOMINEE.

GOT IT. AND SO THE OTHER THING I'LL NOTE IS THAT THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE LAST YEAR, AS YOU PUT IT IN THE BACKUP, WAS A COUNCILOR BIRD AND THE MAYOR AND I WOULD BE PLUS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NOMINATED MISS JESTER.

I WONDER THIS IS I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO BOUNCE A QUESTION OFF OF YOU.

MY MY COUNSELOR FELLOW COUNSELORS ON THE DICE.

I WONDER IF, IF NOMINATED, IF MS..

BIRD AND THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE COUNCIL BIRD AND THE MAYOR WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE ON THAT NOMINATING COMMITTEE AGAIN.

YES, LIKEWISE.

THANK YOU. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO NOMINATE BYRD, HUDSPETH AND JESTER AS THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A LAW FIRM. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS. AS SOON AS I HAVE A BUTTON, I'LL HAVE A SECOND EMOTION AND THEN SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THAT MOTION VERY MUCH.

IT HAS BEEN EVEN IN YEARS BEFORE LAST YEAR BEEN THE PRACTICE.

PICK ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S ON THE BOARD CURRENTLY, USUALLY NOT THE ONE THAT'S UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT AND ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S NOT ON THE BOARD TO BE PART OF THAT NOMINATING COMMITTEE, THAT'S A REALLY THAT'S A SPOT ON WAY TO DO IT.

SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM BECK, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? C NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE VOTING.

FIRST TIME YOU PRESENT IT IN HERE OR NO? YES, IT IS. YES.

WELCOME. YOU CAN'T TELL.

YEAH, COME ON IN. THE WATER'S GREAT.

PRETTY GOOD ONE.

YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. YEAH.

THAT'S A FAIR POINT. YEAH, WE NEED TO GET THAT.

YEAH, I PASS A70.

[C. Consider approval of a resolution of the City Council of the City of Denton, Texas placing a proposal on the September 27, 2022, City Council public meeting agenda to adopt a 2022 Tax Rate that will exceed the lower of the no-new-revenue tax rate or the voter approval tax rate; calling a public hearing on the proposed tax rate increase to be held on September 20, 2022; calling a public hearing on the budget for the fiscal year 2022-2023 Annual Program of Services of the City of Denton to be held on September 20, 2022; requiring the publication and posting of notices of the public hearings and meetings in accordance with the law; and providing an effective date.]

THANK YOU. TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM.

ITEM C ID 22159.

TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, PLACING A PROPER PROPOSAL ON THE SEPTEMBER 27, 2022 CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC MEETING AGENDA TO ADOPT THE 2022 TAX RATE THAT WILL EXCEED THE LOWER OF THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE OR THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE.

CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE INCREASE INCREASE TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2022.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL CASSIE OGDEN, CFO.

JUST A BRIEF RECAP.

WE DISCUSSED THIS AT WORK SESSION AND LENGTH, BUT THE CITY DID RECEIVE CERTIFIED ESTIMATES AND INSTEAD OF CERTIFIED VALUES THIS YEAR.

SO WE STILL HAVE 11% OF PROPERTIES STILL UNDER REVIEW, CREATING SOME UNCERTAINTY AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FY 23 BUDGET.

TONIGHT. WE'RE HERE TO TO TALK ABOUT THE MAX TAX RATE.

SO WHAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR IS THE CITY PUBLISHES A MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT COUNCIL CANNOT GO OVER WHEN THEY ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE.

SO THIS WAS THE TAX RATE THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS DURING OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 20TH.

YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE THE TAX THE DIFFERENT TAX RATES ON THE SCREEN.

THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS 51, A LITTLE OVER $0.51.

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THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH REQUIRES A VOTE OF THE CONSTITUENTS AT $0.60, AND THEN OUR REVISED PROPOSED RATE IS $0.56. THE WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUBLISH THE MAX TAX RATE AT 57 AND ONE HALF CENTS JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL ROOM IN CASE THERE'S ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY WANT TO FUND BETWEEN NOW AND BUDGET ADOPTION.

SO LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE TAX RATE AND THE BUDGET ARE SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 20TH.

THEY'RE REQUIRED BEFORE BUDGET ADOPTION.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED BECAUSE WE ARE EXCEEDING THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET INPUT UNTIL BUDGET ADOPTION. WE HAVE A VOTER OR I'M SORRY, A CITIZEN FEEDBACK FORM ON THE WEBSITE, AS WELL AS A BUDGET SIMULATION TOOL CALLED BALANCING ACT THAT WAS ROLLED OUT TODAY.

IT'S BEING PUSHED THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND THEN WE HAVE THE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILOR WHAT SINCE THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM.

SO THE BUILD YOUR BUDGET ON THE WEBSITE.

YES. IS THAT ANONYMOUS? YES. GOOD.

THE ONLY THING WE ASK FOR IS A ZIP CODE.

OH, OKAY. I THOUGHT I COULD GO ON THERE UNTIL NOON, BUT I'M JUST PLAYING WITH YOU.

OH, OKAY.

ANYWAY, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR WATTS, COULD YOU OUTLOUD SAY THE THE URL SO THAT PEOPLE WATCHING OR CAN SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE POINT.

I DON'T HAVE IT. THAT'S ON TOP OF MY HEAD.

I'M SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT IT, BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.

DANIELS PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? HE JUST WANTED TO TALK TONIGHT.

JUST CAN'T HELP HIMSELF. CITY OF DENTON DOT A BALANCING ACT.

OKAY. VERY GOOD.

SO IS THERE EMOTION? RIGHT? COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE I MOVE APPROVAL.

MAYOR PRO TEM A SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM BACK.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL SAY I THINK I LIKE COUNCILMEMBER.

WHAT POINT ABOUT THE VISUAL OF THE TEARS? COULD WE ADD IN THERE SOMEWHERE THE THE COST OF LIVING AT 3 MILLION SO THAT IT SHOWS YOU KNOW SO JUST IT WOULD JUST BE I THINK WE'D PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE TEARS, BUT IT JUST KIND OF REPRESENTING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JUST SHOW THE THREE 3 MILLION VERSES THAT BEING A IT JUST BECAUSE IT IT WILL SYNC UP WITH WITH THE BUDGET INCREASE.

AND SO YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK SO AGAIN, MOST OF MY COUNCILMAN MAGUIRE SECOND BY MAYOR PRO BECK ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SO IT ON THE SCREEN.

AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS.

[8. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

CONCLUDING ITEMS? ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING, COUNCILWOMAN DAVIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE NORTH TEXAS STATE FAIR AND RODEO COMING UP THIS WEEKEND.

IT'S IT'S PRETTY AMAZING THAT WE HAVE THAT HERE IN OUR CITY, THAT OUR CITY IS PROUD TO HELP SPONSOR THAT EVENT.

AND I SHOULD SAY SERIES OF EVENTS.

IT'S CONCERTS, IT'S LIVESTOCK SHOWS, IT'S VENDORS, AND IT'S A FULL ON RODEO ON THE CIRCUIT RODEO IS THE REAL DEAL.

SO GO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE, CHECK IT OUT.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE, I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE REALLY FROM DENTON AND COUNCILMAN MCGEE. THANK, MR. MAYOR. EARLIER TODAY, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GO OVER AND TOUR THE FACILITIES OF OUR DAILY BREAD AND TO REALLY APPRECIATE THE AMAZING WORK THAT THAT WENDY AND HER STAFF ARE DOING.

I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY DOING SOME AMAZING WORK.

IT'S IT'S WORKING.

SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THE CITY AND THE SUPPORT OF THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN, BECAUSE IT IS IT IS ABSOLUTELY WORKING.

NOT ONLY DID I GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO STAFF, BUT I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE BEING HELPED.

SO THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME AND IMPACTFUL TO ME TO REALLY SEE THE HUMAN IMPACT OF IT.

JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE PUBLIC THERE IS ALWAYS A NEED FOR DONATED ITEMS. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO TO OUR DAILY BREAD.

OUR DAILY BREAD DENTON DOT ORG.

THERE YOU'LL FIND A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE BE NEEDED.

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I PULLED IT UP, JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THERE.

SO AS WE ARE OUT SHOPPING FOR OUR WEEK, LET'S REMEMBER IF WE CAN TO TRY TO PICK UP SOME ITEMS AND DROP THEM OFF OVER THERE LIKE LARGE TRASH BAGS, BLEACH, BOTTLED WATER, GROCERY BAGS, PAPER PLATES, NAPKINS, PAPER TOWELS, TOILET PAPER, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IF WE COULD ALL JUST TRY TO BE MINDFUL AND CONTINUE TO BE THE AMAZING SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TO ALL OF OUR DENTON FAMILY, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGE THAT AND THANK EVERYBODY IN ADVANCE FOR DOING WHAT WE CAN TO SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMAN WATTS.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO DMN CUSTOMER SERVICE.

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO FIELD ALL THE CALLS.

AND IN FACT, I WAS TALKING TO REPRESENTATIVES THE DAY BEFORE COUNCIL MEETING AND CALLS HAVE LITERALLY DOUBLED FROM IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO THE TWO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

SO IF YOU'RE CALLING, I'LL BE SURE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CALLBACK NUMBER WHERE YOU CAN NOT LOSE YOUR PLACE IN THE QUEUE.

I'VE UTILIZED THAT SEVERAL TIMES AND IT'S WORKED OUT VERY WELL, SO JUST ASK FOR EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE, BUT REALLY WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT.

THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND TRYING TO FIELD ALL THE CALLS THAT THEY CAN TO HELP EVERYONE THAT'S CALLING IN WITH QUESTIONS NOT JUST ABOUT THEIR ELECTRICITY, BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEY HAVE ABOUT THE UTILITY SERVICE.

SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND SERVICE.

MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO GIVE A PUBLIC EXPRESSION OF THANKS TO JUDGE EADES AND DON COBB OF THE COUNTY.

LAST WEEK, WEEK BEFORE LAST, I REACHED OUT TO THEM BECAUSE SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT DO WATER DONATION AROUND THE CITY, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SOME OF OUR NON-PROFITS AND TALKED WITH GARY HENDERSON AND JUDGE AND DON COBB REALLY GOT TOGETHER AND DEPLOYED A WHOLE PALLET OF THEIR EMERGENCY WATER RESERVES AND BROUGHT THAT TO ODB TO DISTRIBUTE AMONGST THE DISTRIBUTORS AROUND THE CITY.

AND IT WAS QUICKLY USED UP BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEED WE HAVE AND I THINK SEVERAL OF US HAVE GOTTEN SOME PITCHES THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE PROPOSING ON VARIOUS WATER ASPECTS OVER THE TIME. BUT I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR PARTNERS IN THE COUNTY, WHEN WE ASKED TO, THEY WERE ON BOARD, THEY HELPED OUT.

AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THANKS TO THAT, COUNCILMAN BERT.

I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE STUDENTS, THE TEACHERS, THE ADMINISTRATORS, THE PARENTS, THE ADMINISTRATORS OF THE CITY FOR ITS CONNECTIVITY TO DIDN'T ESRD.

I'M A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER NOW AGAIN.

SO I HAD MY FIRST ASSIGNMENT TODAY FOR HALF A DAY AND THEN I CAME OVER HERE.

THAT IS MY PASSION ALONG WITH DOING THIS JOB.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO WISH EVERYONE A VERY HAPPY AND SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL YEAR.

AND SO I WANT TO MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT THOSE THAT AREN'T TRACKING ALONG THAT HAVE I THINK IT'S DISNEY IF YOU HAVE THAT DISNEY APP.

BLUEY THE THIRD SEASON IS OUT AND IT'S AWESOME.

25 EPISODES, MAN.

IT'S FANTASTIC, MAN.

IT IS REALLY GOOD, MAN.

BLUE, BLUE IS JUST AWESOME.

THEN DCTV, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM FOR I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN DOING SOME AMAZING VIDEOS BETWEEN STEVE'S WINE BAR, THE THE EDUCATION ON THE SIGNAL LIGHTS AND JUST REALLY, REALLY GREAT THINGS.

SO I THANK THEM FOR THEIR THEIR CONTENT.

I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MEMBER.

BIRD SAID ABOUT DYNASTY.

REALLY GREAT JOB GETTING TAKEN CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY, TAKING CARE OF OUR OUR KIDS.

AND THEN TO PIGGYBACK ON KIND OF THE COUNTY.

SO COMMISSIONER EDMONSON PULLED TOGETHER A GOVERNMENT ONE ON ONE KIND OF CLASS, IF YOU WILL, AND THANKS TO STAFF FOR SUPPORTING ME TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING WRONG.

I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND WITH COMMISSIONER COUNTY, JUDGE EADS AND DR.

STUCKEY, AND SO IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION.

SO MANY PEOPLE MOVED TO TEXAS.

YOU FORGET THAT THEY DON'T MAY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET PLUGGED IN AND HOW TO START BEING ACTIVE IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

SO THAT WAS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD CLASS.

AND THEN OUR END WITH THE FACT THAT FRIDAY IS MY ANNIVERSARY, WEDDING ANNIVERSARY.

SO WE'RE WE'RE IN FOR THE SORT OF BE 16 YEARS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

OUR OUR WEDDING RECEPTION WAS SO GREAT THAT THEY BLEW UP THE PLACE.

AND SO THAT WAS THAT WAS FORMER TEXAS STADIUM.

SO THEY'RE IN IRVING SO SO IT'S GONE BUT FOND MEMORIES SO WELL SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

IT IS 830 ON THE DOT AND WE'LL CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S MEETING.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.