Jan 10, 2023 City Council on 2023-1-10 2:00 PM (Special Called Meeting)

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AND GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

[WORK SESSION]

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

IT'S TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 10TH AGAIN 2 P.M..

AND THE FIRST THING.

SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS.

GREAT. THEN THE NEXT THING WOULD BE THE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda.]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK WITH EVERYONE.

I HAVE 2AK AND A L.

A K IS THE DUST TROLL AND AL IS THE CABLING FOR THE JUST TROLL.

HAVE WE? I DON'T PARTICULARLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ITEM EXCEPT TO ASK.

WELL, I'LL WAIT. I'LL WAIT TILL PEOPLE COME UP.

DANA KRAMER, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT AK.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO IN GENERAL, THESE THESE THESE MAILINGS ARE REWORKED BACK INTO ALL THE MATERIALS OR IS THIS RELATED MORE TO THE SURFACE TREATMENT, THE MICRO SEALING, OR IS IT I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR THE LEVEL.

AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING THIS UP AT ALL IS BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE QUALITY CONTROL ISSUES THAT HAD HAPPENED IN THE RECENT PAST AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON TOP OF.

KEEPING THE QUALITY TO WHERE THE CITIZENS ARE NOT YELLING AT US TO YELL AT YOU KIND OF THING.

CORRECT. WELL, THE THE MILLIONS IN THIS CASE, THE CONTRACTOR WILL COME OUT.

THEY'LL MILL OFF THE TOP SECTION OF THE ROAD, EITHER WHEN WE'RE DOING A MILL, AN OVERLAY, OR EITHER A RECONSTRUCT.

IT DOES NOT GO INTO THE MICROFILM PROCESS ON THAT, BUT THEY WILL TAKE THEM BACK TO THE PLANT WHERE IT CAN BE ADDED BACK INTO THE MIXTURE AND THEY'LL MIX IT IN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AS WHATEVER OUR OUR SPECIFICATIONS ARE, OR THEY'LL USE THEM AT THE PLANT FOR DIFFERENT MIXES THROUGHOUT.

SO IT DOES NOT GO DIRECTLY BACK IN.

IT'S JUST PULLED OFF FOR THE FINES AND THIS CONTRACT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THE MILLING WORK AND THEY CAN HAUL THEM EITHER TO OUR AREA THAT WE'LL USE FOR TEMPORARY PATCHES OR IT'LL GO BACK TO THE PLANT WHERE THEY'LL BE PUT BACK INTO A FULL EMOTION MIX THAT WE'LL HAVE FROM THERE.

AND WE HAVE THE KIND OF PROTECTIONS IN PLACE THAT WHERE THE OUR SPECIFICATIONS ARE SUCH THAT ANY SURFACE WE LAY DOWN, WHETHER A PRIMARY SURFACE OR A MICRO SEALED SURFACE IS NOW GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT QUALITY SO THAT THE ROADWAYS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE UNHAPPY WITH, RIGHT? YES, SIR. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT THAT SATISFIES ME ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ON AL, THIS IS ABOUT THE CTG CABLING CHANGE ORDERS.

YES. CURTIS COUNTER WITH TECHNOLOGY SERVICES INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGER.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION I HAD ON THIS ONE IS, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL, COST OVERRUNS ARE INEVITABLE.

YOU CAN'T FORESEE EVERYTHING YOU KNOW.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT I DON'T REALLY HAVE, AGAIN, AN ISSUE WITH THE SORT OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND OR THE FACT THAT WE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN.

RIGHT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT'S COMING IN FROM THESE SORTS OF THINGS, ARE WE DOCUMENTING THIS SO THAT LIKE IF XYZ BUILDING GETS RENOVATED, WE'RE LIKE, OH, NO, SECURITY CABLE'S GOT TO BE RUN THROUGH BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR IT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO COME IN FOR SOME FUTURE BUILDING PROJECT. AND LIKE, WELL, THE $200,000 CABLING IS REALLY 400,000 IN CABLING, JUST BECAUSE WE FORGOT TO PUT THAT BACK INTO OUR SCOPE.

RIGHT. IT'S NOT A LITTLE BIT LIKE THAT.

SO WHEN THIS CONTRACT WAS INITIALLY PUT OUT THERE, THIS WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE A LOT OF THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WERE ACTUALLY EVEN STARTED.

SO THEY WERE STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE ESTIMATED WHAT THE CABLING COST WAS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE FOR THESE KIND OF THINGS.

AND AGAIN, THIS WAS BEFORE COVID, SO BEFORE A LOT OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN SHORTAGES WHICH HAS CAUSED THE COST TO GO UP A LOT AS WELL.

SO WHEN AS FAR AS THE SECURITY CABLING SPECIFICALLY, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT IN THE PURVIEW OF TECHNOLOGY SERVICES.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY HANDLED BY ANOTHER CONTRACT UNDER ANOTHER VENDOR THROUGH FACILITIES FOR ALL THE DOOR ACCESS CONTROL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YET DURING THE PROJECT FOR PD, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT VENDOR AND SINCE I HAD A CONTRACTOR THAT PULLED THE CABLING, HE WAS ABLE TO DO SECURITY CABLING.

WE ACTUALLY WENT AHEAD AND DID THE SECURITY CABLING FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE DON'T REALLY ANTICIPATE CONTINUING TO DO THAT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

IN FACT, A LOT OF THE CABLING COST FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS INSTEAD OF COMING OUT OF OUR CONTRACTS WILL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE GC WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT WHAT WE'VE DONE, TRY TO MAKE SOME CHANGES WITH THAT SO THAT IN THE FUTURE IT'S REALLY MORE SO ON THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR FOR SECURITY CABLING,

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SOUNDS GOOD. I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT WAS THE EXPECTED ANSWER.

I JUST SORT OF WAS PROVIDING A LITTLE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT FOR FOR THAT SORT OF DOCUMENTATION.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THINGS LIKE THIS ROOM THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY REDONE.

WE DID SOME OF THE DATA CABLING FOR THAT.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THAT REALLY THE CONTRACT IS MEANT TO BE IS FOR SMALL RENOVATIONS, SMALL ADDITIONS, NOT FOR MAJOR PROJECTS.

MAJOR PROJECTS. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MARY. JUST NEED TO PULL A FEW FOR RECUSAL.

BUSY CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.

F, J AND W AS THOSE INVOLVE THE COUNTY AND YOU AND T, AND THEN I'LL ALSO BE RECUSING LATER ON THE EVENING FROM HEARING FIVE A THE SCHOOL REZONING.

OKAY. GOT IT.

SO IT'S F J AND W FOR THE FOR CONSENT.

GOT IT. NO PRESENTATION.

JUST SEPARATE VOTE.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CNN. THEN THAT TAKES US TO THE CLOSED SESSION ITEM.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THAT BECAUSE THAT ITEM WAS NOT PULLED.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE.

OR MR. CITY, A CITY ATTORNEY.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? CORRECT? THAT'S RELATED TO CONSENT ITEM, CONSENT, AGENDA ITEM.

SO UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED.

SO WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, ANY CHANGES OF HEART SEEING NONE.

GREAT. SO THEN YOU CAN LET LEGAL STAFF.

WE WON'T NEED THAT.

THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION.

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding TxDOT Roadways and potentially amending the Mobility Plan for a roundabout at Eagle Drive, Bell Avenue, Dallas Drive, and Locust Street along with an update on the current projects underway and the TxDOT roadways the City is working to take responsibility of.]

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RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING TEXAS ROADWAYS AND POTENTIALLY AMENDING THE THE MOBILITY PLAN FOR ROUNDABOUT AT EAGLE DRIVE.

BEL AVENUE, DALLAS DRIVE LOCUST STREET ALONG WITH AN UPDATE ON THE CURRENT PROJECTS UNDERWAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BECKY DEVANEY, CITY ENGINEER, GENERAL MANAGER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE TECH STOCK ROADWAYS AND MOBILITY PLAN AMENDMENT.

TRAVIS CAMPBELL, SINCE HIS APOLOGIES, HE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT DID ASSURE ME THAT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR TECH START, HE WILL WORK WITH ME TO GET THOSE RESPONSES TOGETHER AND PREPARE THOSE BACK FOR YOU.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS GAVE A TWO MINUTE PITCH REQUESTING THIS WORK SESSION WHERE THE CONSENSUS WAS RECEIVED TO EVALUATE THE NEXT STEPS ON TEXAS ROADWAYS. GIVE A STATUS UPDATE OF THE ROADWAYS THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF, AND THE POSSIBILITY OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOBILITY PLAN TO REFLECT IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO A ROUNDABOUT AT BELL AVENUE, DALLAS DRIVE AND EAGLE DRIVE.

AFTER RECEIVING THAT TWO MINUTE PITCH, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH TECH START TO EVALUATE THE NEXT STEPS AND THE PROCESS EVALUATION.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW AND IT GETS QUITE CONFUSING IF YOU TRY TO FOLLOW THE NUMBERS ON THE ROADWAY OR THE NAMES ON THE ROADWAY.

SO I BRING THIS MAP UP TO SHOW YOU AND I'M GOING TO USE MY CURSOR THE BEST I CAN TO KIND OF FOLLOW SOME OF THIS AREA.

SO DALLAS DRIVE, WHICH IS ALSO CONSIDERED US 77, COMES INTO TOWN AT THIS POINT OF INTERSECTION.

IF YOU TRAVEL NORTHBOUND, YOU WILL CONTINUE ON BELL AVENUE.

IF YOU WERE TO TRAVEL WESTBOUND, YOU WOULD GO ON TO EAGLE DRIVE, WHICH IS ALSO STILL CONSIDERED US 77.

AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO TRAVEL SOUTHBOUND, YOU WOULD BE GOING ON CARROLL BOULEVARD, WHICH IS US 377 IF YOU WERE TO COME DALLAS DRIVE EAGLE DRIVE AND THEN HEAD NORTHBOUND LOCUST STREET IS ACTUALLY FM 2164.

AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO TRAVEL SOUTHBOUND ON ELM STREET THAT IS US 77 SLASH US 377.

SO I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BUT I TELL YOU THIS TO SAY THAT ALL OF THESE ROADWAYS IN THIS AREA ARE TEXT OTT AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY CONSIDERED ON SYSTEM ROADWAYS.

AND SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT MORE IN IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE STAND WITH THE CURRENT PROJECTS, ELM STREET AND LOCUST STREET, I KNOW ALL OF YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, AS YOU'RE AWARE OF, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS COMPLETED THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE BASICALLY FROM SOUTH OF THE COURTHOUSE TO EAGLE DRIVE AND SOME ALONG EAGLE DRIVE ITSELF.

WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH TEXAS TO REVIEW THAT PAVEMENT DESIGN AND WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH COMMENTS WITH EACH OTHER TO TRY TO GET TO A CROSS SECTION THAT THE CITY IS COMFORTABLE WITH IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT TEXAS WILL ADHERE TO TO COMPLETE THE RECONSTRUCTION OF ELM AND

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AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE EAGLE DRIVE AS A PART OF THAT PROJECT.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO HOP NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE.

SO ELM STREET AND LOCUST STREET, WHICH ARE FROM UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

SO 380 TO NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE, WE HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THE DENTON COUNTY AND ALSO WITH TECH START.

THAT PROJECT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED AS A PART OF THE DENTON COUNTY TRIP 2022 BOND ELECTION THAT INCLUDES DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF WATER, SEWER DRAINAGE AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, SOME RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION ALSO THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED FOR THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE CITY WILL FUND THE WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS AND THE DENTON COUNTY TRIP 2022 PROJECT IS GOING TO FUND THE ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE PORTIONS TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.

THE GOAL ONCE ALL OF LOCUST IS COMPLETED FROM 380 ALL THE WAY TO EAGLE IS FOR THE CITY OF DITTON TO TAKE OVER THE RESPONSIBILITY AND OWNERSHIP OF THOSE TWO ROADWAYS.

NEXT STEPS MIGHT INCLUDE MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF ADA AND SIDEWALK.

ALSO LOOKING AT STRIPING, PROVIDING MAYBE SOME OF THE MULTIMODAL UPDATES IN THIS AREA.

BUT OUR FIRST IMMEDIATE PHASE GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THE RECONSTRUCTION FROM THE COURTHOUSE SOUTH, INCLUDING EAGLE WITH TEXT DOT FUNDING, AND THEN COMPLETE THE WATER SEWER DRAINAGE ROADWAY FROM THE COURTHOUSE NORTH TO 380 WITH THAT COMBINATION OF CITY AND COUNTY FUNDING.

AND SO YOU WILL SEE AN AGREEMENT COME BEFORE YOU WHEN THE CITY IS READY AND PREPARED.

AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH TAKING THAT ROADWAY ON AS A CITY ROADWAY.

AND THAT WILL BE JUST ELM AND LOCUST FROM 380 TO EAGLE TEXT.

IT WILL WANT TO KEEP EAGLE DRIVE AS A STATE ROADWAY BECAUSE IT IS THE CONNECTIVE TISSUE BETWEEN BELL AVENUE, DALLAS DRIVE AND CARROLL BOULEVARD. AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND WITH THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE'RE MOVING.

I WANT TO KEEP REMINDING YOU TO TO DATE, THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO ROADWAYS.

THE CITY IS CURRENTLY CONVERSING WITH TEXTRON ABOUT TAKING OVER AS RESPONSIBILITY, JUST ELM AND LOCUST.

SOME OF YOU WHO MAY HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY AS A PART OF THE COUNCIL IN PREVIOUS YEARS MIGHT HAVE SEEN A PACKAGE OF MULTIPLE ROADWAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE CURRENT TIME.

THE ONLY TWO ROADWAYS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH TEXT ARE ELM AND LOCUST.

MOBILITY PLAN.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE MOBILITY PLAN IN THIS AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THIS RED LINE, AND I TRIED TO ZOOM IN.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THIS RED LINE IS DALLAS DRIVE, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY ARTERIAL THAT THEN CONNECTS BELL AVENUE, WHICH IS A SECONDARY ELM AND LOCUST, WHICH ARE BOTH SECONDARY ARTERIALS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, CARROLL BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A PRIMARY ARTERIAL.

SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ADOPTED MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2022 MARCH OF 2022.

SO THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE STARTED LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING ANY MOBILITY PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR THE INTERSECTION OF BELL AVENUE, DALLAS DRIVE AND EAGLE DRIVE.

AND SO WE DID TALK TO TEXAS, THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN GREAT LENGTH.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THE CONNECTIVE TISSUE BETWEEN THE TWO TECH START FACILITIES IN ORDER FOR TEXAS TO KEEP CORRAL BOULEVARD AND DALLAS DRIVE ON SYSTEM FACILITIES, THEY WILL REMAIN KEEPING RESPONSIBILITY FOR EAGLE DRIVE.

SO IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT ANY KIND OF RECONSTRUCTION OF THE INTERSECTION, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY BE AROUND ABOUT IN THIS AREA, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST. AND IT WOULD COME FROM OUR DEPARTMENT WITH A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

THAT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THE ACCOMPANYING RECOMMENDATIONS WE ANTICIPATE COULD COST APPROXIMATELY $50,000.

AND THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT A FUNDED INITIATIVE.

STAFF WOULD THEN FORMALLY MAKE A REQUEST AND SEND THAT TO TEXAS TO REGARD REGARDING THE COMPLETION OF AN ACTUAL FEASIBILITY STUDY.

FEASIBILITY STUDIES COST ANYWHERE FROM 150 TO 200000.

I GAVE YOU AN APPROXIMATE OF 200,000.

THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE EVALUATION OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN AT THIS INTERSECTION.

SO IF THE RESULTS OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH KEEP IN MIND AT THIS TIME, COULD BE COMPLETED EITHER BY TECH START OR THE CITY FUNDING, OF COURSE, DEPENDING IF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY SHOWED A REDESIGN IS WARRANTED, THEN CITY STAFF WOULD BRING FORWARD WITH TEC STATE

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WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND ACCOMPANYING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY, WHICH WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $50,000.

THE NEXT STEP WOULD THEN FORMALLY RECOMMEND A TECH START TO COMPLETE A FEASIBILITY STUDY WHICH COULD COST AROUND $200,000.

AND THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY COULD BE COMPLETED BY TEXT IF THEY SO WISH TO, AND FEEL LIKE IT'S A PRIORITY WITH FUNDING OR FROM THE CITY.

SAME SCENARIO.

THEN WE WOULD BRING FORWARD THE BASIS OF WHATEVER THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY.

IF THERE'S ANY DESIGN CHANGE OR AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL FOR A MOBILITY PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND THEN FROM THERE, OF COURSE, WE WOULD LOOK AT IF THERE ARE CHANGES TO THIS INTERSECTION, WE WOULD SUBMIT IT THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AS A FUTURE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TODAY.

SO I WILL STOP SHARING AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS. THANK YOU, MARY.

I HAVE A FEW.

I'LL TRY TO BE VERY SUCCINCT.

I'LL START WITH THE ONE THAT IS PROBABLY ON THE TOP OF CONSTITUENT'S MINDS RIGHT NOW.

SOME PORTIONS OF THE TEXT GOT REPAIRED.

ELM AND LOCUST ARE DOING.

I'VE SEEN IT CALLED HEAVING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CORRECT TERM, BUT IT HAPPENED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE REPAIR.

I'M A LITTLE BIT WORRIED THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE IT ON SOME OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES, SOME CITY FACILITIES.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE WHAT CAUSES THAT PARTICULAR FAILURE IN THE ROADWAY AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR WITH OUR CONTRACTORS AND OUR CREWS TO HAVE THAT NOT HAPPEN? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A TEXT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO FIX THAT ON ELM AND LOCUST.

BUT IT'S KIND OF A BIZARRE FAILURE AND IT HAPPENED VERY QUICKLY.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN LIKE HOW THAT HAPPENS.

SURE. SO THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE ON ELM AND LUCAS, NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE, WERE VERY MINOR MAINTENANCE RELATED.

IT LOOKS FROM THE EYE THAT IT APPEARS TO BE MORE OF A MAJOR MAINTENANCE REPAIR, MORE OF A TOTAL RECONSTRUCT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE CASE.

IT WAS SIMILAR TO A MILL AND OVERLAY IN THAT AREA.

AND THERE WAS A UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY HAD COMPLETED ALL OF ITS IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA.

AND THIS WAS BEFORE I WAS IN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY HAD NOT DONE SO.

AND SO WE BASICALLY TOLD THEM AT THAT TIME WE HAVE TO STILL REPLACE OUR 50 TO 75 YEAR OLD UTILITIES THROUGHOUT THIS AREA AND PUT MAJOR DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.

SO COMPLETE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THIS CONVERSATION.

AND FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THE PAVEMENT ANALYSIS.

IT'S CALLED AN EASEL ANALYSIS THAT WAS COMPLETED ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE CROSS SECTION.

AND WE ARE GOING TO WORK AND WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS NOW TO AGREE TO WHAT THAT ULTIMATE PAVEMENT CROSS SECTION IS.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE SPECIFICATION FOR THE ROADWAY CROSS SECTION THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS TODAY AS A PART OF OUR CRITERIA MANUAL TEXT HAS TOLD US IS MORE DURABLE AND BUILT TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD THAN WHAT THEY EVEN BUILD THEIR HIGHWAYS TO.

AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE AND MOST OF OUR CONCERNS IN THIS AREA ARE RELATED TO THE SUBBASE AND SUBGRADE, NOT NECESSARILY THE ASPHALT SECTION THAT'S OVER THE TOP.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO I WOULD NOT USE THE PORTION THAT WAS DONE NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE AS THE EXAMPLE AS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN SOUTH OF THE COURTHOUSE AND THEN, OF COURSE, NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE WITH THE COUNTY FUNDING.

IS THERE AN EASY WAY TO DESCRIBE HOW THAT PARTICULAR FAILURE OF THE ROADWAY HAPPENS? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A MILL AND OVERLAY.

WE DID NOT RECONSTRUCT ALL THE WAY DOWN.

WE'RE NOT ON A SOLID FOUNDATION.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE MOVEMENT THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT.

NOT PROPER COMPACTION, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY NOT ADHERING TO A SPECIFICATION.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE AS A PART OF ANY KIND OF DESIGN CONTRACT THAT WE BID.

OKAY, VERY GOOD. YES, SIR.

YOU'VE GIVEN US A KIND OF A LIST OF THE STEPS FOR THE CITY TAKEOVER OF THE WHAT'S THE BEST TECHNICAL TERM TO USE THE HANDOVER, THE HANDOFF, THE TAKE OVER THE I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ASSUMING OWNERSHIP OF ALMOND LOCUST.

AND SO DO WE HAVE A ROUGH TIMELINE FOR THAT PROCESS OF WHAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO? THOSE ARE A LOT OF STEPS.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE AND THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR INTEREST TO DO PROPERLY TO MAKE SURE WE GET WE DON'T GET LIMITED ROADS.

SO HOW LONG DO WE THINK THAT'LL TAKE? SO WE ARE ALREADY IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE THAT OVERALL PAVEMENT DESIGN AGREED TO.

I DID RECEIVE WORD FROM TEXT THAT THEY'RE WORKING TO SUBMIT THAT TO AUSTIN FOR AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE FUNDING THAT PORTION.

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SO NEXT STEPS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT ONCE WE CAN GET TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DESIGN CROSS SECTION AND WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN OF THE NORTHERN PORTION OF ALL OF THE UTILITIES, WHICH I WILL TELL YOU, WE'RE ABOUT AT 90% DESIGN OF THE NORTHERN PORTION.

IT'S DESIGNED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

I'VE TOLD THIS STORY BEFORE, BUT I WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST DESIGN ENGINEER WHO STARTED THE PROJECT WHEN I CAME BACK FROM MATERNITY LEAVE.

AND MY SON IS 16.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THESE PROJECTS GET COMPLETED.

BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THAT YOU WOULD SEE AN AGREEMENT COME FORWARD.

THAT WOULD BE MY ANTICIPATION OF THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED SOUTH OF THE COURTHOUSE, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THAT IS ALSO IN AGREEMENT. TEXAS HAS NO DESIRE FOR US TO TAKE OVER JUST THE PORTION SOUTH OF THE COURTHOUSE OR NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE.

SO THE AGREEMENT WILL HAVE LANGUAGE IN THERE TO TAKE OVER ALL OF THE ROADWAY ONCE IT'S COMPLETED FROM THE ENTIRE STRETCH.

OKAY. AND YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THERE WERE SOME OTHER ROADS UNDER DISCUSSION OR AT LEAST.

THOUGHT ABOUT AT ANOTHER TIME, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE'RE REALLY ONLY TALKING IN TEXT OUT ABOUT CERTAIN ROADS AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHERS? THERE ARE SOME OTHER ROADS UNDER DISCUSSION THAT THAT WERE PRETTY ATTRACTIVE FOR THE CITY AND FOR SAFETY REASONS AND MAINTENANCE REASONS, PRETTY ATTRACTIVE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE OWNERSHIP OF.

THE STATE HAS ASKED US AT THIS TIME FOR US TO FOCUS IN ON THESE INDIVIDUALIZED AND BRING THOSE FORWARD IN THIS TYPE OF AN AGREEMENT.

A LOT OF IT'S DUE TO FUNDING BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF FUNDING, NOT ONLY FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY PROGRAMED PROJECTS FOR TECH START.

AND SO THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WILL NEED TO MAKE BEFORE WE CAN ASSUME THE ROADWAY OWNERSHIP AS A PART OF THOSE AGREEMENTS.

AND SO A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FUNDING AND THE APPROACH FROM A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.

AND WE FELT LIKE AT THIS TIME, BASED ON THE WAY THAT WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE COUNTY PROGRAM AND THAT TRIP FUNDING, THAT IT WAS BEST TO JUST FOCUS IN ON GETTING THESE TWO COMPLETED AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT ONES AS THOSE BECOME AVAILABLE.

SO IT'S REALLY A LOT ABOUT NOT BEING PROGRAMED.

I MEAN, WE'RE COMPETING WITH EVERY ROADWAY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AT THIS TIME.

SO THESE ARE THE TWO HIGHEST PRIORITY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO WORK MY WAY INTO THE INTERSECTION THAT WE'RE REALLY KIND OF FOCUSED ON THE STEPS THAT YOU OUTLINED FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

WOULD THE ANTICIPATION THEN BE IF KNOWING THAT RIGHT NOW SUCH A PROJECT IS NOT FUNDED FOR THAT INTERSECTION, IF WE WERE TO GO THROUGH THOSE STEPS WITH TEXT, WITH THE ANTICIPATION, BE THAT WE WOULD ASK TECH START TO TAKE THE LEAD ON ON REDESIGNING AND REBUILDING THAT INTERSECTION, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SOME STATE FUNDING INVOLVED, OR WOULD THE ANTICIPATION BE SOMETHING MORE LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE TRIP BOND AND THE WHAT WE DO WITH EMPTY COG AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HOPE FOR THAT PROJECT TO BE A HAVE A NUMBER OF FUNDING SOURCES.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY HAS TO BE COMPLETED, BECAUSE FIRST THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT THE DESIGN SHOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT INTERSECTION AND THEN SEE WHO THE THE WHO THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY SERVING.

BUT I THINK REALLY AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT STEP, IT WOULD BE A COLLABORATION OF THE CITY AND THE STATE, BECAUSE THE STATE WOULD WANT TO MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF DALLAS DRIVE AND EAGLE, AND THEN WE WOULD BE MORE CONCENTRATED ON THE NORTHERN SIDE FROM BELL AVENUE.

SO I DO FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN SOME OF THESE OTHERS THAT I'VE MENTIONED TODAY IS MORE OF A COLLABORATION AND SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON WITH THEM WHEN WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO FUND AND OF COURSE US TO WITH OUR CIP PROGRAM.

OKAY. SO NEW INFORMATION IN TODAY'S MEETING FOR ME IS THE.

THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DALLAS DRIVING EAGLE ANYMORE BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY IT WAS REPRESENTED TO COUNSEL THAT THAT THOSE WERE THOSE WERE ON THE TABLE THE EAGLE DRIVE IN DALLAS DRIVE OR FACILITIES THAT WE HAD KIND OF A ROUGH OUTLINE OR TIMELINE OR AT LEAST AN ANTICIPATION THAT THOSE WOULD BECOME CITY FACILITIES AT A FUTURE TIME.

BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM, IT STILL LOOKS TO ME LIKE THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO NEED A REDESIGN AT SOME POINT RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WHICH IS WHY ASK FOR THE WORK SESSION IS THAT IT'S GOING TO NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN THERE.

WHEN WE ARE WORKING ON EAGLE AND WHETHER TEX DOT IS WORKING ON DALLAS DRIVE OR WE'RE WORKING ON BELL, WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER DIFFERENT CONVERSATION ABOUT BELL AND MOBILITY AND THOROUGHFARE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THERE.

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THE MEDIANS ARE CRUMBLING, FOLKS.

NEWTOWN DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.

IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH AND YOU WANT TO GET ON TO LOCUST, YOU'VE GOT TO DO THIS WHOLE SNAKE THROUGH THING.

SO TO ME, I THINK MY DIRECTION WOULD BE THAT WE NEED TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF THAT INTERSECTION TO SPEND THE $50,000 TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE INTERSECTION.

DOES IT JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S CRAZY OR IS IT ACTUALLY AS CRAZY AS IT FEELS LIKE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? SEE WHAT OUR SAFETY AND MOBILITY ISSUES ARE THERE AND THEN REVISIT, SEE WHAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE.

SEE IF TEXTILE WANTS TO FOOT THE BILL FOR SOME OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

AND IT MAY BE THAT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TELLS US WE DON'T NEED TO DO MUCH AT THAT INTERSECTION, THAT IT'S CLOSE TO WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

I MY HUNCH IS IT'S GOING TO TELL US WE NEED TO DO SOME MAJOR REWORKING THERE.

OKAY. NO, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

COUNCILMAN BURT. CLARIFY MY THINKING.

YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY THAT EAGLE DRIVE WILL STAY UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE STATE.

THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT PORTION OF THE ROADWAY.

THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S CALLED BEING ON SYSTEM.

ON SYSTEM. JUST THAT PORTION THERE.

AND THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS WORKING FOR WORKING TOWARDS PROPER ROAD WORK ON EAGLE, LOCUST AND AM ALL OF THAT IS TOGETHER, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. WHILE YOU WERE TALKING, THIS IS WHAT I WAS THINKING.

IF IF, IF THE STATE IS GOING TO KEEP EAGLE DRIVE.

WHY ARE WE HOLDING THEM TO THIS PARTICULAR STANDARD? BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ANXIOUS ABOUT EGO DRIVE.

THAT IS A REALLY, REALLY TERRIBLE ROADWAY.

WHY IS IT THAT THEY CANNOT JUST GO FORWARD IN SMOOTH THAT ROAD OUT WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THIS STUDY, WHICH I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID IN REGARDS TO THE STUDY AND PAYING THE FUNDING AND ALL OF THAT.

WHAT'S KEEPING US FROM JUST HANDLING THAT LITTLE PART? IT JUST SEEMS SO SMALL.

IT'S JUST LIKE FROM HERE TO THERE AND WE'RE JUST WAITING.

WAITING. HOW DOES HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? IT'S A STATE GOING TO DO THE ROAD OR ARE WE WAITING OR IS THIS PART OF THE WHOLE PACKAGE? IT'S A PART OF THE ENTIRE PACKAGE SOUTH OF THE COURTHOUSE.

AND THE REASON WHY WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE PAVEMENT DESIGN AND MOVING FORWARD IS THEY WILL HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR THAT WILL COME OUT ONCE THE PLANS ARE APPROVED THROUGH AUSTIN, WHICH IS WHERE THE PLANS GO TO GET APPROVAL TO COME OUT AND DO ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

SO EAGLE AND ELM AND LOCUST WILL ALL BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE SAME TIME THROUGH THE STATE'S CONTRACTOR.

AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

WE BID THE PROJECT.

THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY WILL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU CAN TELL, AND I KNOW YOU ALREADY KNOW, THAT THERE'S THIS SORT OF FEELING ABOUT THAT, THAT SECTION WHERE DEATH IS A SCIENTIFIC TERM, MEANING THE ROADWAYS REALLY ARE TERRIBLE.

AND SO THEY EACH ASK IT IN THEIR OWN WAY.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS I'LL PIGGYBACK AND START FROM THERE IS IF THEY'RE KEEPING THAT ON SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY EAGLE, AND THEY'RE KEEPING ELM AND LOCUST WITH EAGLE FOR THE DURATION OF THE RENOVATIONS, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN TIMELINE OF AGREEMENTS ARE IN THE ORDER OF SIX MONTHS.

SO SORT OF MY FIRST PARTIAL QUESTION IS WHEN WHEN ARE WE LOOKING AT FULL ADOPTION OF OF ELM AND LUCAS? A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, TWO.

I'M HOPING TO BRING THOSE AGREEMENTS BACK WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THAT ARE THE ENTIRE ENCHILADA OF ALL OF ELM AND LUCAS.

THAT IS NOT JUST THE PORTION SOUTH OF THE COURTHOUSE.

WHEN WE BRING THE AGREEMENT BACK TO YOU, IT'S THE FULL PACKAGE BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW HOW THE PORTION NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE IS BEING FUNDED.

SO MY GOAL IS TO BRING EVERYTHING BACK TO YOU AT ONCE.

I'M GIVING YOU THAT TIMELINE BECAUSE IT TAKES AUSTIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO REVIEW A SET OF PLANS.

AND SO AS SOON AS THOSE SET OF PLANS ARE REVIEWED AND TEXAS HAS THE AVAILABILITY TO GET THE CONTRACTOR AND I CAN GET SPECIFIC TIMELINES OF KIND OF THAT FOR YOU AND HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.

AND THEN I CAN DO THAT IN THE FRIDAY REPORT.

BUT WE WILL THEN MOVE IMMEDIATELY, LIKE THEY WANT TO COMPLETE THIS AS MUCH AS WE DO, BECAUSE ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS YOU'RE RECEIVING ABOUT THE POTHOLES ALONG EAGLE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING TO GO OUT AND MAKE THOSE REPAIRS CONSTANTLY.

SO THE SAME WAY THAT WE WANT TO IMPROVE, THEY WANTED TO IMPROVE ALSO.

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SO LET ME REPHRASE THAT SLIGHTLY.

NO, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT. THAT'S ALL INFORMATIVE.

LET ME REPHRASE THE TIME.

ONE QUESTION IS WHEN WILL WE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROADS? AT THE END OF THE RENOVATION PROJECT? THE AGREEMENT WILL START IN 4 TO 6 MONTHS ISH, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WHEN WHEN WILL WE TAKE OVER MAINTENANCE OF THOSE ROADS? A YEAR OR TWO? IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE CLOSE TO A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET THE ENTIRE STRETCH EVEN NORTH OF THE COURTHOUSE COMPLETED.

SO IT WILL BE WE WILL NOT FULLY TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP.

AND THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL STILL HAPPEN WITH TEXT.

BUT MY ANTICIPATION WOULD BE THE CITY WOULD NOT BE FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ELM AND LOCUST UNTIL THE ENTIRE CONTRACT COMPLETION IS COMPLETED.

WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN INSPECTIONS TEAMS AVAILABLE GOING THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.

BUT UNTIL IT'S COMPLETED, EVERYONE'S AGREED THE PUNCH LIST IS COMPLETED, THEN THE CITY WILL NOT TAKE OVER THAT OWNERSHIP.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO PART OF THE REASON SO THAT'S INFORMATIVE IN TERMS OF FUTURE BUDGETING AND SCHEDULING AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WHAT WE CAN TELL THE CITIZENS IN TERMS OF A BEST GUESS.

BUT ALSO THE REASON I ASK THIS QUESTION IS THESE OTHER QUESTIONS, AS YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE COUNCILORS ABOUT THE THE POTHOLES, WHAT AND THE HEAVES AND THE OTHER THINGS, THOSE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT OF SAFETY ISSUES.

AND THAT HEAVE IS GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S CAR OFF INTO DISD OR SOME OF THE DENTISTS AND STUFF THAT LIVE THAT ARE THERE.

AND. IN THE LONG EAGLE.

YOU KNOW THAT. THAT'S A NIGHTMARE.

SO HOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR SAYING THIS ISN'T JUST.

UNTOWARD, UNSEEMLY, NOT VERY FUNCTIONAL, UGLY, BUT ACTUALLY VERGING ON SAFETY ISSUES IF WE CAN'T.

INDUCE SOME SORT OF EMERGENCY SPOT REPAIR.

AND AND IT WOULD BE ONE THING IF THE IF WE WERE GOING TO FIX IT IN A MONTH OR TWO.

WE GO BACK TO THE CITIZENS.

WE SAY IN THE NEXT 2 TO 6 MONTHS, THAT'S SHAVED DOWN AND FIXED.

BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE MAYBE NOT FOR THAT SECTION.

THAT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE PROJECT SCOPE, BUT SOMETIME IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS BEFORE ALL THESE LITTLE FROST HEAVES AND EVERYTHING ARE ARE FIXED TO A PROPER STANDARD.

SO. SO HOW DO WE GET THIS IN THE PIPELINE.

EARLIER FOR SOME SORT OF SPOT REPAIR.

SO AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE ANY TYPE OF COMPLAINT OR SEE IT OURSELVES, WE DRIVE IT EVERY DAY TO OUR BUILDING IS OFF OF IT.

WE'RE CALLING TEXT OUT IMMEDIATELY AND TELLING THEM WE HAVE AN ISSUE.

I KNOW THE MOST RECENT ONE, AS SOON AS IT BECAME TO OUR ATTENTION, WE SEND IT IMMEDIATELY AND WITHIN TWO DAYS THEY HAD THE HEAVE KNOCKED DOWN, REPAIRED.

SO UNTIL IT IS A CITY ROADWAY, IT'LL BE OUR COORDINATION EFFORTS WITH TEXT TO MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS.

AND THEY HAVE MAINTENANCE CREWS THAT ARE COMING OUT AND DOING POTHOLE REPAIR OR MAKING MODIFICATIONS, KNOCKING DOWN THE HEAVE AND DOING THE PATCH REPAIR IN THOSE AREAS.

THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH, TEXTED AND WE DO THAT DAILY.

SO AS THOSE CONCERNS COME IN AND WE RECEIVE THEM, WE SEND THEM ON TO TEXT AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A COLLABORATION TO TAKE OVER THAT ROADWAY.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT REALLY NOT ONLY IS IT A COLLABORATION, IT'S ALSO THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE ALL OF OUR OWN CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE LOCATED UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAY.

AND THAT'S THE MAIN REASON FOR WE'RE PUSHING SO FAR TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, AND I'LL LEAD WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE WAY SOME OTHERS.

I DO THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR US TO HAVE THE DESIGN IN MIND, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'LL BE TAKING OVER PORTIONS OF THOSE.

AND AND I DON'T THINK IT EVER HURTS TO DO THE DESIGN IN ADVANCE.

SO MY DIRECTION WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THAT DESIGN.

BUT THEN THE.

THE PRICE TAG OF 50,000.

IS THAT A TYPICAL PRICE TAG FOR PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ARTERIAL INTERACTION, OR IS THIS EXTRA EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S A TEXT DOT ROAD? MOST TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS COST 50,000 OR LESS.

I MEAN, THAT'S A TYPICAL INTERSECTION ANALYSIS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS A FULL BLOWN ANALYSIS PLUS STAFF TIME TO DO THE REVIEW, ETC..

THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS PRETTY TYPICAL.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A PULMONARY ENGINEERING STUDY OF 200,000.

THOSE ARE ESTIMATES WE WOULD HAVE TO DO PHYSICAL PROPOSALS FOR ALL OF THOSE, BUT THOSE ARE ESTIMATES AT THIS TIME.

BUT THEY'RE NOT EXCESSIVE BECAUSE IT'S A TEXT ROAD.

IF IF IT WAS OUR ROADS, IT'D BE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME PRICE TAG AS AS FAR AS I'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.

YES, IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE ABSOLUTELY ANYONE ELSE.

SEN. SEE NO ONE.

YEAH. I'M OKAY WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THE STUDY AND I JUST THINK IT'S THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IS WARRANTED, RIGHT?

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I MEAN, THAT CURVE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY IN YOUR LANE, PEOPLE DON'T AND THEN THAT MERGE MORE IMPORTANT THOUGH.

WELL IT COVER BEYOND.

THAT INTERSECTION.

HOW FAR UP BELL WILL THE STUDY CONTINUE? BECAUSE THERE'S THAT DOUBLE WHITE LINE THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CROSS, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GET OVER TO TO TURN ON ROBERTSON.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, IF IT'S GOING TO GO, IT WOULD NEED FOR ME TO BE COMFORTABLE.

IT NEED TO EXTEND AT LEAST TO ROBERTSON, BECAUSE THAT'S TOUGH, RIGHT? YOU'RE COMING DOWN, EAGLE.

YOU TURN LEFT ON BELL AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO HUSTLE TO GET OVER TO THE RIGHT.

AND AND THEN EVEN BEYOND THAT, SOMEONE GETS PULLED OVER FOR FOR SPEED.

AND IT JUST GETS COMPLICATED TO GET FROM EAGLE TO ROBERTSON, YOU HAD TO DO A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OF THE AREA.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE TURNING MOVEMENTS AND WHERE ALL THE CARS ARE COMING FROM.

SO IT WILL ASSESS ALL OF THE ROADWAY CONNECTIVITY THAT'S IN THE VICINITY.

SO I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY.

ROBERTSON, AT LEAST TO THAT EXTENT, WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED.

SO IT WOULD BE A LARGER GEOGRAPHICAL AREA THAN JUST THAT IMMEDIATE INTERSECTION.

IT'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE THE CONNECTIVE TISSUE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

GOT IT. AND THEN DO WE INVITE THE RAIL TO THAT CONVERSATION? OBVIOUSLY, THAT UNDERPASS IS A PROBLEM AND THAT THAT COMPLICATES THINGS.

CAN WE HORSE TRADE THAT FOR QUIET ZONES LIKE, HEY, WE WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS.

FINISH THE QUIET ZONES THAT ARE.

YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE RAILROAD CROSSING THERE IS REALLY THE LARGEST DETERRENT FOR ANY KIND OF ROADWAY EXPANSION IN THAT AREA.

AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT.

SO IT'LL BE A PART OF THE EVALUATION THAT THE ROAD IS WIDE AND YOU'RE NECKING DOWN TO GO UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TO THEN START IMMEDIATELY, NOT ONLY TURNING TO THE RIGHT, BUT MAKING TURNING MOVEMENTS TO GO TO EAGLE SO THAT THAT AREA WILL BE A PART OF THE EVALUATION.

SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE STUDY SAYS AND THE ANALYSIS SAYS, THEN WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH THE RAILROAD IF THERE IS ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

BUT ADDING THE RAILROAD TO IT CHANGES THE SCOPE OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.

SO LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY.

THE RAILROAD TRESTLE.

SO RAILROAD UNDERPASS.

BUT THAT'S DALLAS DRIVE.

YES, SIR. IT'LL COVER THAT.

I MEAN, I KNOW YOU SAID IT'LL COVER KIND OF ALL THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS.

WELL, THEY COVER THAT. MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO GET PEOPLE INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO GO DALLAS, DRIVE TO WHATEVER THAT STREET IS.

EVERYONE DUMPS STUFF ON.

BUT THEY HADN'T BEEN DUMPING LATELY.

IT'S BEEN THE SIGNS HAVE BEEN WORKING.

BUT THAT ROAD OR SOMETHING.

RIGHT. SO SO WORKING WITH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, WILL WE EXPLORE MAYBE DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO MAYBE. ROBERTSON IF WE RETRAIN PEOPLE TO GO THE OTHER WAY AND GIVE THEM A SIGNAL LIGHT OR SOMETHING TO MAKE IT SAFE TO TURN BY AUTOZONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS THAT WELL, AND THAT GETS OUT OF OUT OF THE SCOPE, I THINK A LITTLE BIT.

SO SO THE OVERALL ANALYSIS WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE ANY FEEDER OR ANY ROADWAY, ANY TURN IN MOVEMENT OF THAT INTERSECTION.

SO ANTICIPATE AT LEAST ONE INTERSECTION OUT OR ONE CROSSROAD WAY OUT OF WHAT IS IN THE IMMEDIATE INTERSECTION OF BELL EAGLE AND DALLAS DRIVE. OKAY. IF THAT HELPS CLARIFY THAT, IT DOES.

BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO GIVE MY DIRECTION IS THAT IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THAT FURTHER, UNDERSTANDING THE MOVEMENTS, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE DRIVE IT ALL THE TIME ANYWAY. SO IF THERE'S AN IF WE HAVE TO ADD THAT TO, LET'S SAY THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST, I WOULD RATHER US HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT WE COME BACK IN. THE DISCUSSION IS, HERE'S OUR OPTIONS, HERE'S HOW THAT WORKS, HERE'S HOW WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER.

UNDERSTANDING. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WILL BE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT TURN OFF OF EAGLE ON TO ROBERTSON, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S BRAND NEW.

THANK YOU THERE'S THAT'S AN EASIER PATH AND IT'S THERE'S THOSE ARE THE TWO ROADWAYS TO BEAT THE TRAIN THAT'S IT EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'RE STUCK AT THE TRAIN SO THE TRAFFIC THERE IN THE FUTURE PLANNING, IT'S WORTH IT TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE TO GET THAT RIGHT.

UNDERSTANDING AS WE GROW AS MORE TRAFFIC CARS ON THE ROAD.

THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIMAL ROUTES.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO WAL MART, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE TARGET, ALL THAT CONNECTS.

SO I'D WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SPEND THE TIME TO STUDY THAT.

AND IF WE NEED TO GO UP A FEW BLOCKS OR SO, SURE.

FOLD ALL IT IN. I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO THAT.

SO. SURE. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR DAVIS.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE REALLY BRIEF.

MY QUESTION IS, HOW WILL WE RECEIVE THIS INFORMATION BACK? WILL IT BE A FOLLOW UP WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OR INTERSECTION ALONG WITH PROGRESS, WITH TEXT AND WHERE THINGS ARE? WILL IT BE AN ISR AND THEN CORRELATE TO THAT WHEN WE DO GET IT BACK?

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STAFFS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA.

YOU'VE SEEN THE INTERACTIONS OF THE VEHICLES.

THERE'S SO MUCH MORE BEYOND THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO KNOW SOMEBODY'S LOOKING AT THEIR DRAFTING TABLE 100 MILES AWAY MIGHT SAY, OH, THERE'S NINE DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN ANALYZE THIS.

WELL, YEAH, BUT YOU'VE GOT AN APPROACH UNDER A TRAIN TRESTLE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT STAY THERE FOREVER.

AND YOU CAN'T ANALYZE RIGHT THERE BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL PLOW UNDER THE BACK OF SOMEBODY ELSE.

RIGHT. SO REALLY INTERESTED IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SAFETY OF THAT INTERSECTION AND WANTED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO COUNCIL.

SURE. I WOULD ANTICIPATE, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED TODAY, WE'LL WORK WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK FOR THE FUNDING, TO DO THE STUDY AND THEN WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF RECEIVING A PROPOSAL TO DO THAT.

I ANTICIPATE THAT TO TAKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE SECONDARY ITEM, WHICH IS THE AGREEMENT TO WORK THROUGH ELM AND LOCUST, I WOULD ANTICIPATE BRINGING THOSE THINGS BACK AS AN UPDATE AT SOME PERIOD OF TIME. BUT MORE THAN LIKELY IT WOULD BE THROUGH EITHER AN ITEM WHERE WE'RE BRINGING THE AGREEMENT FORWARD AND NOT NECESSARILY A WORK SESSION ITEM.

IT MIGHT BE AN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEM OR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WHERE QUESTIONS COULD BE ASKED.

AND OF COURSE WE CAN ALWAYS INCLUDE ANYTHING IN A FRIDAY REPORT AS AN ISR TO KEEP YOU UPDATED AS THE PROCESS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I THINK I'D JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR THE INTERSECTION EITHER AS A SHORT WORK SESSION OR I THINK ORGANIZATION IS REALLY MOST APPROPRIATE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EDUCATE US SOME ON WHAT IT IS WE'RE SEEING.

SURE. TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

SURE. AND IT'S JUST A VERY HIGH PROFILE.

EVERYBODY IN TOWN DRIVES THROUGH THAT AT SOME POINT.

AND SO I THINK IT'D BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

THAT'S NO PROBLEM. WE CAN BRING IT BACK AS SOON AS IT'S AVAILABLE AND WE WILL MOVE DOWN THE CONCURRENT PATH OF CONTINUING WITH THE ELM AND LOCUS RECONSTRUCTION.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE, AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP.

HAPPY NEW YEAR. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE THE GREAT JOB YOU ALL DID.

PUTTING PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I, TOO, COSIGN WITH MR. DAVIS. I'D LIKE TO SEE A WORK SESSION JUST BECAUSE IT'S EASIER AND BECAUSE OF THE INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS.

AND THIS. I THINK DOING THIS IN THE MORE PUBLIC FORUM IS BEST.

AND, MR. MAYOR, HAVE A QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION FOR THE STUDY OR DO YOU NEED MORE WORK? WE JUST WENT DOWN TO THAT.

GREAT. THANKS. THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

TAKES US TO ITEM B, ID TWO, TWO, 2 TO 1 TO RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING AUDIT PROJECT 0 TO 9 POLICE BODY

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding Audit Project 029 - Police Body-Worn Camera Usage.]

PULL UP MY POWERPOINT.

CHOO CHOO CHOO. ALL RIGHT.

AND I'M MADISON RORSCHACH.

I'M DENTON CITY OTTER.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE FINDINGS FROM OUR AUDIT COVERING THE CITY'S POLICE BODY WORN CAMERA USAGE.

SO THIS AUDIT GENERALLY EVALUATED THE CONTROLS AND PROCESSES IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY TO ENSURE BODY WORN CAMERAS ARE MAINTAINED, SAFEGUARDED AND USED APPROPRIATELY.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USES BODY WORN CAMERAS DAILY TO CAPTURE CONTACTS BETWEEN OFFICERS AND THE PUBLIC.

IN ADDITION, THE CITY IS ESTIMATED TO SPEND ABOUT $3 MILLION ON ITS BODY WORN CAMERA PROGRAM AND EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SPECIFICALLY THIS AUDIT EVALUATED OFFICER COMPLIANCE WITH BODY WORN CAMERA USAGE AND OVERSIGHT GENERAL ORDERS, AS WELL AS PHYSICAL AND ELECTRONIC SAFEGUARDS.

SO I'LL BEGIN BY DISCUSSING THE BODY WORN CAMERA USAGE COMPLIANCE.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GENERAL ORDERS REQUIRE BODY WORN CAMERAS TO BE ACTIVATED WITH ANY CALL FOR SERVICE DURING ENFORCEMENT AND INVESTIGATIVE PUBLIC CONTACTS OR WHEN ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS ANTICIPATED.

THE GENERAL ORDERS REQUIRE THAT RECORDINGS BEGIN WITH THE CALL FOR SERVICE AND ONLY END AFTER ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS CONCLUDED.

IN ADDITION, THE CAMERA MUST BE MAINTAINED ON THE OFFICER'S UNIFORM AND SHOULD ALLOW FOR ADEQUATE AUDIO AND VISUAL OF THE INTERACTION.

BASED ON OBSERVATION OF 30 RANDOMLY SELECTED VIDEOS ALL APPEARED TO COMPLY WITH THESE REQUIREMENTS.

ONCE A VIDEO IS CAPTURED, THE GENERAL ORDER IS GENERALLY REQUIRE THAT THEY BE UPLOADED TO THE CITY'S EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE WITHIN TWO DAYS, AS CAMERAS ARE GENERALLY SUPPOSED TO BE DOCKED AT THE END OF EACH SHIFT.

BASED ON REVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT'S EVIDENCE LOGS, ABOUT 95% OF VIDEOS WERE UPLOADED WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME.

IN ADDITION, ABOUT 99% OF VIDEOS WERE UPLOADED WITHIN AT LEAST TEN DAYS AFTER THE CREATION OF THE VIDEO, INDICATING THAT THEY'RE GENERALLY UPLOADED IN A TIMELY MANNER.

ONCE UPLOADED, OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED TO ENSURE VIDEOS OR APPROPRIATELY CATEGORIZED BY EVIDENCE TYPE.

THIS CATEGORIZATION INFORMS HOW LONG THE VIDEO IS RETAINED AS THE EVIDENCE SOFTWARE AUTOMATICALLY DELETES EVIDENCE AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

IF VIDEO VIDEOS ARE UNCATEGORIZED, THEY ARE DELETED ABOUT 250 DAYS AFTER CREATION BASED ON REVIEW OF 78 VIDEOS RELATED TO 36 CALLS FOR SERVICE,

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IN ADDITION, EIGHT DID NOT APPEAR TO BE TAGGED WITH AN ACCURATE EVIDENCE CATEGORY WHEN COMPARED TO THE CALL TYPE.

ACCORDING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF, THESE VIDEO CATEGORIES WERE UPDATED DURING THE AUDIT.

LAST, WE FOUND THAT THE EVIDENCE RETENTION PERIODS AND USE COMPLIED WITH STATE REGULATIONS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE CATEGORY THAT WAS UPDATED DURING THE AUDIT AS WELL.

IN ADDITION, WE VERIFIED THAT NO VIDEOS IN THAT CATEGORY HAD BEEN INAPPROPRIATELY DELETED DUE TO THIS ERROR.

NEXT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GENERAL ORDERS REQUIRE SUPERVISORS TO INFORMALLY AND INFORMALLY EVALUATE THEIR EMPLOYEES PERFORMANCE AT LEAST ONCE PER MONTH.

AS PART OF THIS, SUPERVISORS ARE REQUIRED TO REVIEW ONE BODY WORN CAMERA VIDEO PER EMPLOYEE EACH QUARTER AS RELEVANT BASED ON REVIEW OF THE NUMBER OF DOCUMENTED SUPERVISOR EVALUATIONS COMPLETED PER EACH EMPLOYEE.

WE FOUND THAT NOT ALL SWORN STAFF APPEAR TO HAVE RECEIVED THE REQUIRED MONTHLY PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS.

IN PARTICULAR, WE FOUND THAT 68 ACTIVE POLICE EMPLOYEES, 58 OF WHICH WERE SWORN, DID NOT HAVE A RECORDED PERFORMANCE EVALUATION FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR.

IN ADDITION, THE DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED A FORM TO STANDARDIZE THIS PROCESS AND GUIDE SUPERVISORS AND WHAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AND DOCUMENTED.

HOWEVER, ONLY HALF OF 12 EVALUATIONS REVIEWED WERE COMPLETED ON THE FORM, THE OTHER HALF BEING COMPLETED DIRECTLY IN THE FRONT LINE.

OFFICER MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

BASED ON DISCUSSION WITH POLICE STAFF, TRAINING ON PERFORMING SUPERVISOR PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED OR PROVIDED TO SUPERVISORS.

HOWEVER, BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT'S MANAGEMENT RESPONSE, THIS IS NOW IN DEVELOPMENT.

SIMILARLY, WE FOUND THAT DOCUMENTATION OF BODY WORN CAMERA VIDEO INSPECTIONS WAS NOT CONSISTENT.

SPECIFICALLY OF THE 12 EVALUATIONS REVIEWED.

TO MENTIONED A VIDEO WAS REVIEWED BUT DID NOT REFERENCE WHICH VIDEO IT WAS.

AND FOUR DID NOT MENTION A VIDEO WAS REVIEWED AT ALL.

WHILE SOME EMPLOYEE JOBS DO NOT RESULT IN THE USE OF BODY WORN CAMERAS, NOTING THIS IN THE EVALUATION WOULD PROVIDE FURTHER CLARITY.

FURTHERMORE, WE FOUND THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S REQUIRED BODY WORN CAMERA INSPECTION FREQUENCY DID NOT ALIGN WITH UPCOMING ACCREDITATION STANDARDS AS OUTLINED IN THE TABLE ON THE SLIDE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE GENERAL ORDER IS ALSO REQUIRE ALL VIDEOS WHERE THERE WAS A RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE OR A VEHICLE PURSUIT TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED UP THROUGH THE OFFICER'S CHAIN OF COMMAND.

BASED ON A REVIEW OF 12 OF THESE REQUIRED REVIEWS, ALL APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED APPROPRIATELY.

LASTLY, DUE TO THE SENSITIVE NATURE OF POLICE RESPONSIBILITIES, BODY WORN CAMERA DEVICES AND THE ASSOCIATED DATA MUST BE ADEQUATELY SAFEGUARDED, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND ELECTRONICALLY. THE CITY HAS CONTRACTED WITH A THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN BODY WORN CAMERAS, AS WELL AS AN EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE TO MANAGE AND STORE CAMERA DATA. IN GENERAL, THIS VENDOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURING DATA UPLOADED TO THE EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AND DEVELOPING FIRMWARE UPDATES TO IMPROVE THE BODY WORN CAMERA SYSTEM. IN ADDITION, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING BODY WORN CAMERA DEVICES AND USER ACCESS TO THE EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

AND THIS THIS DIVISION OF RESPONSIBILITIES IS ILLUSTRATED IN THE FIGURE ON THE SLIDE.

BASED ON REVIEW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS GENERALLY ESTABLISHED AN APPROPRIATE PROCESS TO MANAGE PHYSICAL ACCESS TO BODY WORN CAMERA CAMERAS, INCLUDING REQUIRING TRAINING BEFORE ISSUANCE AND MAINTAINING AN UP TO DATE ASSET REGISTER OF ALL ACTIVE DEVICES.

HOWEVER, THE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT MAINTAIN A REGISTER OF DEVICES BEFORE THEY ARE PLACED IN SERVICE, INCREASING THE RISK THAT A CAMERA COULD BE LOST OR STOLEN.

IN ADDITION, CAMERAS MUST BE REGULARLY DOCKED IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE MOST UP TO DATE FIRMWARE, HELPING TO REDUCE CYBERSECURITY RISK AND IMPROVE THE DEVICE EFFECTIVENESS.

BASED ON ANALYSIS OF CAMERA LOGS, WE FOUND THAT ABOUT 17% OF CAMERAS HAD NOT RECEIVED THE LATEST FIRMWARE UPDATE AS OF SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2022.

FURTHER, ABOUT 8% OF CAMERAS HAD NOT BEEN DOCKED IN OVER 100 DAYS.

BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE, THE DEPARTMENT IS DEVELOPING PROCESSES TO CORRECT THESE TWO ISSUES.

FOR THE EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT, SOFTWARE ACCESS WAS GENERALLY WELL MANAGED, INCLUDING REQUIRING EACH EMPLOYEE TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL LOGIN CREDENTIALS, REQUIRING SUPER ADMINISTRATORS TO USE TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION AND HAVING JOB BASED USER ROLES THAT APPEARED APPROPRIATE FOR ALL USERS EXCEPT ONE BASED ON OUR REVIEW.

AND THAT ISSUE WAS CORRECTED DURING THE AUDIT.

FINALLY, SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE ONE THAT PROVIDES THE CAMERAS AND THE EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE ARE GENERALLY REQUIRED TO UNDERGO AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THEIR CONTROLS, WHICH IS DOCUMENTED IN A SERVICE ORGANIZATION, CONTROL OR SOC REPORT.

BASED ON REVIEW OF THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR SOC REPORT, NO DEFICIENCIES APPEARED TO MATERIALLY IMPACT THE CITY.

IN ADDITION, THE CITY APPEARS TO HAVE ADEQUATELY IMPLEMENTED ALL COMPLEMENTARY USER CONTROLS, HELPING TO ENSURE EVIDENCE DATA REMAINS SECURE.

THAT BEING SAID, THE SOC REPORT SHOULD BE REGULARLY REVIEWED TO ENSURE USER CONTROLS REMAIN ADEQUATE AND ANY IDENTIFIED VENDOR CONTROL DEFICIENCIES DO NOT MATERIALLY IMPACT

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IN SUMMARY, WE ISSUED A TOTAL OF NINE RECOMMENDATIONS, SIX OF WHICH THE DEPARTMENT CONCURRED TO.

THE DEPARTMENT PARTIALLY CONCURRED, AND THE REMAINING THE DEPARTMENT DISAGREED WITH DUE TO CONCERNS ABOUT SOFTWARE LICENSE LIMITATIONS.

BASED ON THIS RESPONSE, WE BELIEVE THE IDENTIFIED RISKS WILL BE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED AND WE'LL CONDUCT A FOLLOW UP REVIEW IN THE NEXT 18 TO 36 MONTHS.

GREAT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MADISON.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND THEN I HAVE SOME SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

YES. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS? ARE THOSE EVALUATIONS OF GENERAL PERFORMANCE? ARE THEY EVALUATIONS OF PERFORMANCE IN THIS AREA? LOGGING YOUR STUFF, TAKING CARE OF YOUR CAMERA, DOCKING YOUR CAMERAS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OR ARE THEY EVALUATIONS OF WHAT WE SEE ON THE CAMERA, REVIEWING FOOTAGE AND AND EVALUATING IT? THE MONTHLY EVALUATIONS ARE GENERAL INFORMAL EVALUATIONS THAT INCLUDE CAMERA REVIEWS, INCLUDING WHAT IS ON THAT VIDEO.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BUT NOT EVERY TIME NECESSARILY SO.

I BELIEVE THE STANDARD FOR THE GENERAL ORDERS IS, OH, GOT IT DOWN HERE SOMEWHERE.

ONE EACH QUARTER REVIEW IS PER THE GENERAL ORDERS, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MONTHLY REVIEW TO EVALUATE GENERAL PERFORMANCE.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES.

AND DOES THAT MONTHLY EVALUATION, IS THAT COMING FROM OUR OWN IN THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES? IS IT COMING FROM ACCREDITATION STANDARDS? IS IT BOTH? IT'S IN THE DEPARTMENTS POLICIES, FOR SURE.

I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ACCREDITATION STANDARDS.

AND YOU MENTIONED ON THE ONE ITEM THAT THE DEPARTMENT DISAGREED ABOUT SUPER ADMINISTRATORS.

CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE AND WHY? THE RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU ALL WAS THAT THEY HAVE SEPARATE ADMINISTRATORS.

ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO BASICALLY EVERYTHING WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

THEY CAN CHANGE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, VIEW EVERY VIDEO, BASICALLY DO ANYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE IN THE EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE BASED ON. JUST CYBERSECURITY STANDARDS.

THEY RECOMMEND THAT THOSE PEOPLE SOMETIMES HAVE SEPARATE CONTROLS, LIKE IN OUR NORMAL I.T ENVIRONMENT OR THE SUPER ADMINISTRATORS FOR LIKE THE CITIES THAT WORK HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE ADMIN ACCOUNTS BASICALLY THAT THEY CAN DO THOSE THINGS AND THEN THEY HAVE A SEPARATE PERSONAL EMAIL, PERSONAL LOGIN.

THE DEPARTMENT THINKS THAT BELIEVES THAT THAT WOULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE, ESSENTIALLY.

AND THERE'S OTHER COMPENSATING CONTROLS IN PLACE THAT WE DON'T THINK WE SAID THEY SHOULD CONSIDER IT BECAUSE IT'S A BEST PRACTICE, BUT THAT THERE'S PROBABLY COMPENSATING CONTROLS IN PLACE TO WHERE IT'S NOT TOO MUCH OF A RISK.

OKAY. I UNDERSTAND, MAYOR, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

WOULD YOU RATHER HOLD OFF ON THOSE AND LET OTHER FOLKS ASK MADISON QUESTIONS OR GO AHEAD AND POSE THOSE NOW, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM NOW THAT MAY INFORM OTHER QUESTIONS OR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

DOUG SHOEMAKER, CHIEF OF POLICE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. I MY MAIN QUESTION BEFORE I GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTIONS, CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND HOW THAT DOVETAILS WITH ALL THE OTHER KIND OF PERFORMANCE REVIEW THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THERE AT THE DEPARTMENT? AND THEN WHAT WE CAN KIND OF EXPECT GOING FORWARD REGARDING THOSE MONTHLY.

SO AS AS THREE MONTHS ON WITH THE DEPARTMENT, ONE THING I'M DOING IS EVALUATING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY DO, PROCESSES THINGS WE HAVE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR GUIDELINES PROCEDURES.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR TEXAS POLICE CHIEF'S ACCREDITATION.

SO THERE ARE OTHER THINGS ON TOP OF THAT THAT ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE BUILT INTO OUR GENERAL ORDERS TOO.

SO AS WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS, FIGURING OUT HOW WE EVALUATE OUR PEOPLE IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN VERY ON THE FORTH, VERY MUCH ON THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE DO.

MADISON MENTIONED THE ONCE A QUARTER EVALUATION REVIEW OF A VIDEO CAMERA REVIEW, WHICH IS PART OF OUR GENERAL ORDER.

SO THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED.

ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME AREA TO TO IMPROVE UPON AND THAT WAS ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WAS WORKING TO ENSURE THAT OUR FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS HAVE THE APPROPRIATE TRAINING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE BASIC ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES THAT MAYBE WE'VE NOT BEEN AS GOOD ABOUT PASSING THAT ON PRIOR TO THIS TIME.

SO I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THOSE THINGS, BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS CERTAINLY FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO WITH THAT, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE DO OUR PERFORMANCE APPRAISALS ACROSS THE BOARD AND EVEN LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT SYSTEM FOR HOW THOSE THINGS ARE LOGGED.

MUCH LIKE WITHIN OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS SYSTEM, THERE'S ONE SYSTEM THERE THAT HAS ANOTHER SYSTEM THAT'S KIND OF A BROTHER SYSTEM THAT BUT THEN DISPATCH USES A DIFFERENT SYSTEM FOR

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SO I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY AND JUST SHORE THINGS UP, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF THINGS THERE I THINK WE CAN DO.

YEAH, I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT AND GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALREADY AND FOCUSING ON, OBVIOUSLY FROM THE AUDIT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENT ON THE QUESTION OF THE SUPER ADMINISTRATORS CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND CONCERNS ABOUT BUDGET AND COST.

HAVE ME TALKING TO THE SEVEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOUR BUDGET.

WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE IN SOME SOME KIND OF FOLLOW UP IN ICER OR SOMETHING TO LET US KNOW ABOUT? ARE WE MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT PRACTICAL, PRACTICAL CONCERNS? ARE WE MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT SPENDING? THAT KIND OF MONEY IS NOT MITIGATING ENOUGH RISK TO MAKE IT WORTH IT.

ARE WE MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT LICENSING ISSUES? JUST BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAT ISSUE I THINK WOULD HELP US KNOW.

SURE, IF IT'S A BUDGET ASK, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

IF IT'S A THE SOFTWARE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO IT, THEN THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

SO REALLY IT'S NOT IN MY MIND AT ALL A BUDGET THING.

IT'S THE PROCESS OF AXON IS HOW AXON WORKS.

I'M USED TO WORKING WITH AXON, I'VE WORKED WITH IT AND MY PRIOR AGENCY BEFORE HERE, I WORKED ON IT ON AN INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION CHIEFS OF POLICE LEVEL TWO.

I'M INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THEY WORK AND HOW THEY THEY DO ALL THE LEVELS OF ACCESS.

AND SO WHEN THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ADMINISTRATION OR ACCESS POINTS, THERE'S NO NEED FOR A DUPLICATE LICENSE, WHICH THEY WOULD IN ESSENCE CHARGE YOU FOR IF FOR SOME REASON YOU WANTED TO DUPLICATE A ROLE, BUT LESS IN A ROLE FOR THE SAME PERSON FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

IT JUST IT'S NOT IT'S NOT HOW THE SOFTWARE WORKS.

SO REALLY, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T SEE AT ALL THE RISK.

THE AGENCIES THAT USE AXON DON'T DO THAT EITHER.

I ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS, A FEW AGENCIES.

I'M LIKE, DO YOU ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS? AND LIKE, WE WOULD NEVER THAT ISN'T YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S NOT FOR US.

SO IT'S BUILT IN WITH AXON AS TO HOW THEY DO THAT.

WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

AND THERE ARE SERVICES ON THAT TOO.

SO FOR ME, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH THERE WITH THAT.

WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT YOUR DISAGREEMENT WITH THE AUDIT RECOMMENDATION THEN IS YOU'RE JUST NOT PERCEIVING THE SAME LEVEL OF RISK THAT THAT THE AUDITORS ARE SEEING IN YOUR PROCESSES? I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT GENERAL PRACTICES AND ACCEPTED BEST PRACTICES.

I THINK ON THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY FINE.

I HAVE A MORE INTIMATE WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF IT FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE IN-DEPTH PART OF THAT ISSUE.

AND FOR US, I THINK IT'S A BEST BET TO MOVE FORWARD THE WAY WE'RE DOING WITH THAT.

OKAY. THE VERY LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I WAS I WAS FAIRLY CONCERNED TO SEE THE THE RATE OF NOT UPLOADING, NOT TAGGING AND NOT DOCKING THE CAMERAS.

YOU HAVE TO DOCK THE CAMERAS TO UPLOAD.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE TARGET IS ALWAYS 0%, 100% COMPLIANT, 0% OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

BUT I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE THINK ABOUT BODY WORN CAMERAS IN THE CONTEXT OF USE OF FORCE, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.

BUT I ALSO LOOK AT IT FROM AN EVIDENCE PRESERVATION STANDPOINT AND THAT THE END RESULT OF A LOT OF THESE INTERACTIONS NEEDS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTION FOR A CRIME.

AND I'VE BEEN THERE IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE WHEN A DIFFERENT AGENCY SWEARS UP AND DOWN.

THERE DOES NOT EXIST A BODY CAMERA FOR DETECTIVE SO-AND-SO, BECAUSE DETECTIVE SO-AND-SO SURELY WOULD HAVE UPLOADED HIS BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE IF HE HAD IT.

AND FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, SET UP AND DOWN, IT'S NOT THERE.

IT JUST WASN'T TAGGED RIGHT.

THE I.T. GUY WAS ABLE TO FIND IT LOOKING IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

BUT BECAUSE PROTOCOLS WEREN'T FOLLOWED, THERE'S A WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A DA'S OFFICE WITH EGG ON THEIR FACE AND A DEFENDANT THAT DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE THAT BEFORE THEY'RE ON TRIAL.

SO VERY CONCERNING TO ME THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME OF THOSE.

AND MOST OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NEVER THEY'RE NOT INTERACTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO RESULT IN A PROSECUTION.

IT'S MAYBE IT'S A SPEEDING TICKET AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SURE. BUT VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WHATEVER THE SOLUTION IS, THAT WE THAT WE GET THAT RIGHT AND THAT WE GET IT RIGHT AS MANY TIMES AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, THAT WE HAVE AS CLOSE TO 100% COMPLIANCE AS WE CAN.

AND THEN ON THE I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ONE GUY OR SOMEBODY OR A COUPLE THAT DIDN'T UPLOAD FOUR, DIDN'T DOCK THEIR CAMERA FOR 100 DAYS.

IF THERE IS CASE, IF THERE'S FOOTAGE ON THERE THAT IS SPECIFIC TO A CRIMINAL CASE, THAT CASE HAS ANOTHER 100 DAYS THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A FULL FILE TO GO FORWARD.

AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THIS YET EITHER, BUT I DO ALL OF THE MISDEMEANOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INTAKE FOR DENTON COUNTY.

WE NEED THOSE CASES YESTERDAY.

WE NEED THEM AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BECAUSE THEIR SAFETY INVOLVED.

AND IF WE'RE WAITING 100 DAYS FOR SOMEBODY'S BODY CAM TO GET UPLOADED, THAT'S THAT'S REALLY PROBLEMATIC.

AND THEN IN THAT 100 DAYS, SOMEBODY'S ALREADY GOT A PERSONAL RECOGNIZANCE BOND BECAUSE THEY HIT THEIR 30 DAYS AND THEY'RE OUT WITH NO NO REAL CONSEQUENCE.

SO VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WHATEVER THE SOLUTION IS, THAT WE GET THOSE THINGS TAGGED, WE GET AND WE GET THEM TO WHEREVER IT IS THEY NEED TO GO, EVEN IF IT'S JUST IN THE FILING

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WELL, YEAH, YOU BRING UP A NUMBER OF POINTS AND CLEARLY THERE'S ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS, THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

I KNOW MADISON MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY SOME RATES AND REMEMBER WHEN THESE WERE SPOT CHECKED, WE HAVE 10,000 INCIDENTS OR CONTACTS A MONTH.

10,000. SO IF WE'RE SPOT CHECKING 60 OVER A THREE MONTH PERIOD OR HOWEVER LONG THAT TAKES, WE'RE TALKING A VERY LOW NUMBER.

SO THAT COULD MEAN ONE OF TWO THINGS.

IS THAT A GREATER INDICATOR OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON A BIGGER LEVEL THAT WE'RE MISSING, OR IS IT RANDOM? AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST NOT DOING THIS? IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN IT IS.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT YET.

SO AS WE WORK THROUGH ACCREDITATION COMPLIANCE, DR.

RICHARD WILLIAMS IS WITH US HERE TODAY IN THE BACK.

IF YOU'VE NOT MET DR. WILLIAMS, OF COURSE, DEPUTY CHIEF KOSE WORKS IN OUR TECHNOLOGY PIECE AND KNOWS A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THAT KIND OF ABOUT THE INNER WORKINGS OF ALL THINGS TECH REALLY, AND IS PROBABLY MUCH SMARTER THAN I AM ON THE TOPIC.

THE BOTTOM LINE, I GUESS WHAT I'LL SAY IS THIS IS THAT THERE ARE SOME PROCESSES WITHIN THE AGENCY THAT WE WANT TO SHORE UP.

I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO JUST JUST EXPLAIN IT.

YOU KNOW, I ASSUME DIXON OBVIOUSLY DID A LOT OF GREAT WORK, FANTASTIC WORK ACTUALLY WITHIN THE AGENCY.

BUT MY JOB IS I'VE AS I'VE BEEN HIRED TO COME IN IS TO LOOK AT THOSE PROCESSES AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH BETTER.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S CERTAINLY ON MY MIND.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. YEP.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE. MR. MAYOR. HAPPY NEW YEAR, CHIEF.

AND TO YOU. IT'S BEEN THREE MONTHS, YOU SAID.

IS THIS THE GREATEST DECISION OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL LIFE? THREE MONTHS AND SEVEN DAYS AND 6 HOURS.

6 HOURS. JUST KIDDING ON THAT.

IT'S BEEN FIVE DECISIONS OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL LIFE TO COME TO DENTON, TEXAS.

I LOVE IT. IT'S BEEN FANTASTIC.

EVERYBODY'S BEEN VERY WELCOMING AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

GLAD TO HEAR THAT. I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT.

I WAS PLEASED WITH THE PREVIOUS CHIEF.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE TRAIN ROLLING RIGHT DOWN THE TRACK.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.

HAVING SAID THAT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO PICK UP ON.

SURE. RIGHT. WHERE MY FRIEND FROM DISTRICT THREE LEFT OFF THERE.

CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME GENERAL EXAMPLES OF WHY AN OFFICER MIGHT NOT DOCK THEIR CAMERA? I KNOW. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LAWYERS AND FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AS A TRUCK DRIVER.

HELP ME. WHY WOULD AN OFFICER NOT BE ABLE TO DOCK THEIR CAMERA AT THE END OF THEIR SHIFT? SURE, IT COULD BE A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.

FIRST, IT COULD BE SIMPLY THEY FORGOT.

COULD BE THEY WORKED AN EXTRA LONG SHIFT AND WENT STRAIGHT HOME AFTERWARDS AS OPPOSED TO COMING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BECAUSE THE DOCKING HAS TO OCCUR WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT CAN'T OCCUR HOME.

IT HAS TO BE DONE OVER A SPECIFIC NETWORK THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT TO BE DONE.

SO AXON AN EVIDENCE DOT COM RATHER IS THE SO WE CONTRACT WITH AXON AND EVIDENCE DOT COM IS THE STORAGE THAT THE CLOUD STORAGE SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO DO ALL THE UPLOADS.

SO IT'S FEASIBLE AT THE END OF A SHIFT, PARTICULARLY LONG SHIFT WHEN OFFICERS STAY 14 TO 16 HOURS, WHICH WE DON'T LOVE, BUT IT HAPPENS CERTAINLY THAT THEY GO HOME AND THEN THEY DON'T COME BACK TO THE APARTMENT UNTIL LATER ON THE NEXT DAY AND THEN IT'S DOCKED WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR SO, WHICH IS AFTER YOUR 24 HOURS.

SO THE DAYS AND THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A NECESSARILY A STRONG ANSWER FOR.

I SUPPOSE THERE COULD BE SOME ISSUES WITH THINGS THAT ARE NOT THAT ARE TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE, AND IT'S NOT MARKED APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE CAMERAS FAIL.

AND SO WE HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE CAMERAS.

SO THAT CAMERA, IF IT'S NOT DOCKED APPROPRIATELY AND IF IT'S JUST SET ASIDE FOR EXAM AND REPAIR, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DOCKED.

IT'S JUST NOT. NOW, IF THERE'S EVIDENCE ON IT, YOU WANT TO GET THE EVIDENCE OFF, OBVIOUSLY, AS WAS ALLUDED TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER CASES OR REFERENCES MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON THERE, YOU WANT TO UPLOAD IT APPROPRIATELY.

SO THERE COULD BE A MYRIAD OF REASONS.

I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL SYSTEM FOR KIND OF BETTER TRACKING OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. CHIEF, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE THE SO THIRD PARTY VENDOR, ARE THEY ON SITE? OKAY. SO THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UPLOADING THE VIDEOS.

CORRECT. ARE YOU REFERRING TO EVIDENCE DOT COM AND AXON OR.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, THERE ARE I MEAN THEY'RE WHAT WE CONTRACT WITH THEM.

EVIDENCE DOT COM IS A CLOUD BASED SERVICE BUT THEY'RE NOT OK.

RIGHT. OKAY. TALK TO ME ABOUT THE TAGGING PROCESS.

SO THE TAGGING PROCESS IN ESSENCE WHEN YOU AND I'M A.

IS THIS? HOW IS THIS RELATED TO THE AUDIT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET OFF TRACK ON A EVIDENCE CAMERA THING AND ON A AUDIT THING.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRACKING WELL, WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY TIGHT ON TIME, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET WAY OFF.

I THINK I CAN GIVE YOU A 32ND ANSWER IF YOU'RE OKAY, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, OKAY.

I CAN. I CAN. I'LL TIME IT.

SO LET ME START A CLOCK.

BASICALLY, WHEN AN OFFICER GOES TO AN INCIDENT AND HE OR SHE FINISHES THAT, THEY THEY FINISH THE RECORDING, TURN THE CAMERA OFF, AND THEN THEY TAG IT APPROPRIATELY USING THE SOFTWARE APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE.

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SO THAT VIDEO THAT THEY JUST TOOK IS REFERENCED TO A CASE BASED UPON A CASE NUMBER GENERATED THROUGH OUR CAMERA SYSTEM.

THAT'S HOW IT'S TAGGED. OKAY.

IS THERE SOMEONE WHO THEN CHECKS THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS TAGGED CORRECTLY? THAT'S ALL. THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.

GREAT QUESTION, OFFICER.

I DON'T THINK WE KNOW. I THINK THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THAT THEY GET TAGGED RIGHT.

IF THE IF THE NUMBER THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THE CASE OR THE INCIDENT IS GIVEN TO THEM, THEY'RE EXPECTED TO DO THAT APPROPRIATELY.

I THINK THE BACK END OF THAT IS FOUND OUT WHEN THERE'S NO CONNECTING DATA.

PERHAPS LIKE WHERE'S THIS THING WHERE I TAGGED IT WRONG BY A DIGIT, WHICH COULD HAPPEN, BUT I MEAN HUMAN ERROR.

BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. YES, SIR.

YOU'RE BACK. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. SO, AGAIN, 7 MINUTES.

COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR PRO TEM.

JUST ONE QUESTION.

DOES EVERY OFFICER HAVE THEIR OWN CAMERA? YES, I GET MINE THURSDAY.

I'M EXCITED. YOU CAN COME OVER IF YOU LIKE.

AND THEN EACH. OKAY, I'LL COME IN AND SWEAR YOUR CAMERA.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

YEAH. IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YOU DON'T EVEN FORGET MY SECOND QUESTION.

BUT SO WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY DOCK THE CAMERA, IT'S JUST CERTAIN NUMBER OF DOCKS THERE.

AND DO THEY DOCK IT IN THE, THE SAME ONE OR EVERYBODY'S JUST KIND OF PUTTING EVERY CAMERA HAS THE OFFICER'S NAME ON THE BACK.

SO I'LL HAVE SCHUMAKER ON THE BACK OF MINE WHEN I GET IT.

AND SO THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE HAVE THEIR LITTLE SPOTS.

PROBABLY I'LL FIND MY CUBBY WHEN I GET MINE.

THAT'LL BE EXCITING TO FIND MY DOCKING CUBBY.

YEAH, BUT NONETHELESS, I'LL DO THE SAME THING WHEN I LEAVE SHIFT, DOCK IT, AND IT PROBABLY WON'T BE MUCH ON THAT I WOULD IMAGINE, WITH MY JOB.

BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S STILL PART OF AS A SWORN OFFICER.

WELL, I WAS JUST GETTING AROUND TO THE FACT THAT IF AN OFFICER'S CAMERA WASN'T DOCKED, THEN WOULD THE NEXT PERSON THAT WOULD USE THAT DIFFERENT CAMERA.

OKAY, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CATEGORIES OF CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, SO I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AND NOT REITERATE THOSE THOSE THINGS.

MADISON IT SEEMS LIKE THE DEFINITION OF THE AUDITS YOU HAD AND ACTUALLY I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT RELATE TO THE CHIEF AS WELL.

SO DON'T NECESSARILY GO ANYWHERE, SIR.

THE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAD A CATEGORY OF TIMELINESS AND A CATEGORY OF CATEGORIES, PROPER CATEGORIZATION, AND YET IT SEEMED LIKE TIMELINESS WAS BASED ON CATEGORIZATION OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND IN TERMS OF ASSESSMENT OF OF ACCURATE UPLOAD TIME.

SO WHEN YOU DID THE ASSESSMENT, WAS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT? WE LOOKED AT TIMELINESS IN TERMS OF WHEN IT WAS UPLOADED JUST INTO THE SYSTEM AS WELL AS WHEN IT WAS CATEGORIZED.

SO WE LOOKED AT BOTH IN GENERAL, WE FOUND THAT VIDEOS WERE UPLOADED TIMELY, 99% WERE DONE WITHIN TEN DAYS, BASICALLY IF IT WHEN IT WAS CREATED.

AND THEN BASED ON 78 VIDEOS THAT WE REVIEWED TO WERE NOT UPLOADED TO WERE UPLOADED, ONE WAS ON TEN DAYS AND ONE WAS 197 DAYS AFTER CREATION.

THEY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND BUT BUT DOES THAT IMPACT AS I UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINESS WAS BASED ON YOU LOOKED AT CATEGORIZATION AND DID IT WHEN DID DID A POLICE RECORD WITH THESE CATEGORIES HAVE YOU HOW LONG WAS THE LAG UNTIL A VIDEO WAS UPLOADED? BUT THAT MEANS THAT IT HAS TO BE PROPERLY CATEGORIZED FOR YOU TO DO THAT CHECK.

CORRECT. AND DO YOUR STATISTICS CHANGE? OR WE DID A JUDGMENT SAMPLE.

SO I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THERE STATISTICS INVOLVED NECESSARILY.

FAIR. FAIR.

ALL RIGHT. SO SO THERE'S PERHAPS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE FUZZINESS THAT THAT MIGHT POP OUT IN LATER AUDITS.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE OVERALL, WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

WE MAY HAVE SOME SOME PLACES THAT CLEAN UP AROUND THE EDGES.

AND, CHIEF, IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL LICENSES, I'M GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN AN ECHO ON THIS BECAUSE, I MEAN, I DO NATIONAL CYBER INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AS MY DAY JOB AND PART OF MY ROLES.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE I HAVE NOT DONE SOMETHING TERRIBLE BECAUSE I HAD A SUPER ADMINISTRATIVE ACCOUNT VERSUS MY REGULAR ACCOUNT, AND I'M VERY THANKFUL OF THAT.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE THOSE ELEMENTS THAT THE CYBER INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM IS RECOMMENDING, IF YOU COULD PUT THAT IN THE ISR, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST PRACTICE IN GENERAL FOR DATA INTEGRITY AND SUPER USER USE.

SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE THE PERHAPS HOW AXON IS WORKING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT FEELS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE AN AXON PROBLEM, NOT A CHIEF SCHUMAKER PROBLEM.

I THINK IT'S A RESPECTFULLY, I THINK AXON HAS BEEN ULTRA SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THEIR MODEL AND HOW THEY DO IT.

AND I'M WILLING TO LEARN.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY MAYBE THE BEST PRACTICE IS GENERALLY FOR CYBERSECURITY ARE NOT APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE.

WELL, I THINK THEY ARE.

I THINK AXON HAS LED THE INDUSTRY AND CONTINUES TO BE THE LEADING PROVIDER.

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SO I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T MEAN IT. I DON'T WORK FOR THEM.

BUT NONETHELESS, I, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO BECAUSE OF THE TRUST ISSUE THAT'S BEEN INSTILLED IN THE EVIDENCE DOT COM SYSTEM AND HOW THEY DO THE UPLOADS AND HOW PEOPLE MANAGE IT.

NOW, IS THERE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT WITH ANYTHING? OF COURSE I WOULD SAY THAT I'M VERY CAUTIOUS WITH ANY SYSTEM THAT WE IMPLEMENT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH MORE AND MORE REQUIREMENTS FOR FIELD SUPERVISORS TO DO MORE THINGS THAT TAKE THEM OFF THE STREET, AWAY FROM THEIR OFFICERS AND BACK INTO A COMPUTER AND A DESK AND UNABLE TO BE OUT THERE TO SUPERVISE.

SO IF WE ADD MORE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES TO SERGEANTS OR LIEUTENANTS, THAT'S TIME OFF THE STREET THAT I DON'T HAVE WITH THEM TO EVALUATE THEIR FOLKS.

SO IF IT'S ADDITIONAL DUTIES TO GO BACK IN AND LOG IN OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR TO CHANGE THIS OR TO HAVE TWO ROLES WHERE THEY HAD RUN BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF, BUT I WILL DO THIS.

I'LL I'LL CERTAINLY DO SOME CHECKING AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION.

AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? JUST NO ANSWER NEEDED JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT ON TIME.

WITH RESPECT TO DOCKING, I'D LOVE TO HEAR BACK.

AND THIS GOING TO BE IN THE FRIDAY REPORT.

IF WE HAVE DOCKING STATIONS AVAILABLE AT THE AT THE FIRE STATIONS.

I KNOW WE HAVE THE OFFICES FOR OFFICERS TO GO IN, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, I'D LOVE TO ENTERTAIN SEEING WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE TO GET THAT NETWORK, THAT FIRE STATIONS AS WE GROW THOSE. THEN OFFICERS COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STOP THERE AND DOCK THERE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, THEN SAME WITH REC CENTERS.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE KIND OF STRATEGICALLY PLACED OR JUST KIND OF MIDDLE TO CITY TYPE THING.

SO IF THAT'S AN OPTION, WOULD LOVE TO EXPLORE WITH THAT WOULD COST AND THEN AND IF THAT'S NOT A SAFE ENOUGH ENVIRONMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE.

AND THEN JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SINKING WITH THE COUNTY TO COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS'S POINT THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE ORGANIZING LIKE THEY'RE ORGANIZED AND OR LIKE THEY REVIEW TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING EFFICIENT IN THAT WAY.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, IF IT SYNCS UP WELL AND GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO BETTER TO TO MAKE THAT TRANSFER MORE SMOOTH, THAT'D BE FANTASTIC.

IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, BY ALL MEANS.

TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO SOMETHING THAT THE DA'S OFFICE DOESN'T LIKE, THEY LET US KNOW PRETTY QUICK.

YES, THAT'S USUALLY A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF SECURITY, OF WHERE WE DOCK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT IS A BIG TO DO.

WE DO. WE JUST DID A TOUR OF THE SOUTH SUBSTATION, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON OPENING.

AT SOME POINT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S READY TO GO WHEN WE DO.

WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT DOCKING STATIONS THERE AND SO THAT WILL GEOGRAPHICALLY, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THAT AS AN OPTION, BUT WE'LL ABSOLUTELY KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE THE WORK OF MADISON AND HER TEAM AS WELL, TOO.

WE'VE. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR US ON BOTH ENDS.

I THINK SO. APPRECIATE IT.

GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT. THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM.

UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE FOR US. MADISON.

NOPE. ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.

WE SAVE 16 SECONDS.

ALL RIGHT. TAKES US TO ITEM C, ID TWO, 22185 RECEIVED REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING SUSTAINABILITY, FRAME BACK

[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Sustainability Framework Fund Workplan for FY 22-23.]

WHERE'S THE ACTUAL FILE? TEAMS. FORT SAM GIRL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON. GO RIGHT AHEAD.

YEAH, NO, GO AHEAD.

OKAY. MICHAEL GONYEA, DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE CITY OF DENTON.

I'M HERE TO GO OVER THE WORKPLAN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2223 FOR THE STATE ABILITY FRAMEWORK FUND EXPENSES.

AND I WANT TO START WITH A BACKGROUND, BECAUSE NOT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WAS HERE WHEN THIS HAS BEEN CREATED.

I THINK THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT FOR THE FOLKS AROUND THE DYESS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.

SO THIS ALL STARTED BACK IN JANUARY OF 2021 WHEN THE ACTUAL SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED.

THEN IN AUGUST OF 2021, THE SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK FUND WAS CREATED, AND RIGHT BEHIND THAT, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, WE HAVE FIRST Y'ALL FIRST ADOPTED THE DOLLARS BEHIND THE FRAMEWORK FUND THAT WAS INITIALLY DONE AT 500,000 FOR THAT FIRST FISCAL YEAR FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

YOU ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE PUSHING FORWARD 4 MILLION TOWARDS THE FRAMEWORK FUND AND IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, OCTOBER 28TH, TO BE EXACT, THE SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHO'S TASKED WITH RECOMMENDING A WORKPLAN TO YA'LL, RECOMMENDED THIS WORKPLAN.

I'M GOING TO GO OVER ON THAT DATE TO COME FORWARD TO YOU ALL.

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THOSE ARE LISTED ON THE SLIDE AND THE MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED TO TWO YEAR TERMS. FOR A QUICK UPDATE ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2122 WORKPLAN, WHICH WAS THE 500,000 INITIALLY.

THIS SLIDE GOES OVER THAT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGES ON HERE EXCEPT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WILL PROBABLY BE JUNE OF THIS YEAR, NOT MAY OF THIS YEAR.

THAT HAS SLID SLIGHTLY.

THE AIR QUALITY MONITORING EQUIPMENT WILL BE COMING FORWARD FOR Y'ALLS ACTION IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

SO THERE'LL BE AN AGENDA ITEM COMING FORWARD TO YOU.

ALL THE OTHER THINGS ARE GENERALLY ON TRACK.

THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION EDUCATION CAMPAIGN SHOWS COMPLETE IN DECEMBER.

THAT'S REALLY KIND OF ONGOING.

WE'VE ACTUALLY PARTNERED WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO THAT'S ACTIVELY AN ONGOING.

FOR THIS YEAR'S WORKPLAN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2223 WORKPLAN.

WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE FAC OR SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO BREAK DOWN FUNDING, MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE EIGHT FOCUS AREAS.

THIS WILL CREATE SOME BETTER FLEXIBILITY AND TIMING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.

THERE ARE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED THAT GO BEYOND THE CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED FUNDING, WHICH WILL GIVE US FLEXIBILITY AS WELL BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES.

EVERYTHING ON HERE IS AN ESTIMATE.

WE DON'T KNOW THE COST UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

AND AGAIN, THIS WORKPLAN DOESN'T AUTHORIZE US FOR PROCUREMENT.

IF WE HAVE TO DO PROCUREMENT FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, WE WILL COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY.

AS THAT APPLIES, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THE CITY'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR THAT.

SO AGAIN, THE FISCAL YEAR 2223 WORKPLAN.

UNDER THE FOR THE FRAMEWORK FUND BREAKS DOWN THESE COSTS AT THIS HIGH LEVEL FOR THE EIGHT FOCUS AREAS, IT TOTALS UP TO THE $4 MILLION.

IN YOUR BACKGROUND, YOUR BACKUP INFORMATION, YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL WORK PLAN, WHICH THEN ALSO HAS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS ON A LITTLE MORE GRANULARITY ON SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT MAY FALL WITHIN THOSE FOCUS AREAS.

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WOULD BE SPENT THERE.

SO AGAIN TODAY, THE OPTIONS ARE WE CAN DECIDE TO ACCEPT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WORK PLAN.

YOU ALL CAN ELECT TO MODIFY THE WORK PLAN OR REJECT THE WORK PLAN.

AS STAFF, WE RECOMMEND ACCEPTING AND MOVING FORWARD WITH IT TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'VE DONE THIS WORK PLAN AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR, THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR.

MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO BRING THAT ALONG WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AS YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON THE BUDGET TO ADOPT THE FRAMEWORK FUND, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE WORK PLAN DURING THAT SESSION INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE A SEPARATE ACTION.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS AND THEN WE STOP SHARING MY SCREEN SO COUNCILMEMBER WATTS CAN SEE US.

OK WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? MR. CITY ATTORNEY? YOU WANT TO GIVE US KIND OF SOME GUARDRAILS FOR THIS CONVERSATION? WE JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP IS RELATED TO CORE SCIENTIFIC, TO THE ABILITY TO THE EXTENT THAT IT IMPACTS THE FUNDING.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AS WELL AS THE BANKRUPTCY ISSUE.

WE'VE BEEN SENSITIZED AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME MEDIA REQUESTS FOR SOME OF THIS DATA.

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCLOSE THE CUSTOMERS DATA AS FAR AS USAGE, VOLUME, WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED AT THIS POINT.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION, IF ASKED, ARE PART OF THIS, WON'T BE NECESSARILY ABLE TO BE DISCLOSED IN THIS OPEN SESSION.

ALL RIGHT. SO QUESTIONS AROUND THE PLAN.

COUNCILWOMAN DAVIS CAN REAL QUICKLY ASK THE ATTORNEY A QUESTION.

YES. RELATED TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE NOT ALLOWED, IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A PURCHASE POWER AGREEMENT, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH YOU AND YOU OR ANY OF OUR BIG OR IS IT BECAUSE STATE LAW ABOUT POWER CUSTOMERS, YOU CAN'T BE TELLING EVERYBODY HOW MUCH MONEY THEY SPEND ON POWER? THE LATTER. IN 2021, THE STATE ADOPTED A COUPLE OF LAWS RELATED TO THIS SPECIFICALLY PREVENTED CITIES AS UTILITY PROVIDERS FROM DISCLOSING THAT INFORMATION.

SO IT'S STATE LAW THAT'S PROHIBITING THAT.

THANK YOU. I'M MY DIRECTION, I THINK, GENERALLY IS TO GO FORWARD WITH THE WORK PLAN TO ADOPT THE WORK PLAN, AS THE COMMITTEE HAS HAS AND STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED IT.

COULD YOU GIVE US JUST A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE MIGHT SEE COMING FORWARD? I REALIZE IT'S IN THE BACKUP, BUT NOT EVERYBODY WHO WATCHES OUR MEETINGS ALSO READS THE BACKUP.

THERE'S A VERY, VERY BRIEF, QUICK CLIFFSNOTES VERSION OF SOME OF THE THINGS PEOPLE MIGHT SEE HAPPENING AROUND TOWN OR MIGHT HEAR US GETTING INFORMATION AND DATA FROM THAT MIGHT BE OF MOST INTEREST.

OKAY, SO LIKE UNDER THE WATER FOCUS AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO SOME IRRIGATION INCENTIVES TO HELP HOMEOWNERS AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS AS WELL, TO DO THINGS WITH SMART CONTROLLERS, DRIP IRRIGATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, TO CONTROL AND MINIMIZE AS FAR AS WATER CONSERVATION, TO ENCOURAGE THAT.

YOU MAY ALSO SEE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON WITH LOOKING MORE AT PERVIOUS PAVING.

IN OTHER WORDS, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY MINIMIZE THE RUNOFF AND MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE WATER HITTING THAT PROPERTY FOR AIR QUALITY AND GREENHOUSE GASES? THEY'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SOME NATURAL HABITAT BEING PUT IN DIFFERENT AREAS FOR CARBON SEQUESTRATION, WHETHER IT BE NATURAL GRASS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

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SO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THINGS LIKE SMART THERMOSTATS.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT HOW THOSE BUILDINGS ARE USING POWER AND CONSUMING POWER DURING THE DAY.

HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THROUGH LIGHTING RETROFITS OR HVAC RETROFITS? HOW DO WE GET THE MOST DOLLARS BACK ON MAKING THAT HAPPEN, NOT FULLY FUNDING IT, MAKING IT BE A SUSTAINABLE AS POSSIBLE LAND USE AND OPEN SPACE.

AGAIN, THEY'RE PRIMARILY THERE.

THE PART OF THE BIGGER ONE WOULD BE RESTORATION PROJECTS.

WE'D BE LOOKING AT DOING DIFFERENT THINGS FOR EITHER POLLINATOR WASTE WAY STATIONS FOR BEES, BUTTERFLIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, GOING BACK INTO THE NATURAL HABITAT, ENCOURAGING THAT NATURAL RESTORATION OF AREAS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

TRANSPORTATION RELATED.

ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THERE THAT'S CALLED FOR THAT WE'RE WORKING ON INTERNALLY IS EV CHARGING.

HOW ARE WE DOING AS A CITY TO SUPPORT THE GROWING EV INFRASTRUCTURE? IN OTHER WORDS, AS MORE VEHICLES COME ONLINE, WHETHER IT BE CITY OWNED OR PUBLIC OWNED, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT STRUCTURES ARE THERE AND DO THAT? SO THAT'S PART OF THAT FUNDING, IS TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BALANCE THE NEED WITH WITH OUR RESOURCES AS WELL, BECAUSE THE PRIVATE RESOURCES ARE COMING IN CERTAIN AREAS.

IT'S NOT COVERING ALL OF THE CITY OF DENTON.

AND THEN WITHIN THE OTHER ONES ARE A LITTLE MORE MODERATE, BUT UNDER RESILIENCE AND PUBLIC HEALTH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT GETS TALKED A LOT GETS CONFUSION IS LOOKING AT POSSIBLE RESILIENCY OR RESILIENCE HUBS, WHICH USED TO BE THOUGHT OF AS JUST A SHELTER THAT HAD BACKUP POWER.

IT'S MORE THAN THAT. IT'S LOOKING AT CITY FACILITIES WHERE IF RESIDENTS GO THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY POWER, THERE'S WATER, THERE'S OTHER RESOURCES TO GET THEM THROUGH, WHETHER IT'S BAD WEATHER OR HEAVY WEATHER, WHETHER IT'S EXTREME HEAT IN THE SUMMER OR EXTREME COLD IN THE WINTER.

SO MAKING SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE FACILITIES IN THAT WAY.

SO DOES THAT HELP WITH THAT? VERY HELPFUL. AND JUST I'LL COMMENT THAT I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE ALL VERY THOUGHTFUL, BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE A A DIRECT AND TANGIBLE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE US RUN BETTER AS A CITY.

THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE US CLEANER AS A CITY.

THEY'RE GOING TO OFFER A LOT OF AMENITIES AS A CITY.

IT'S NOT IT'S EASY FOR FOLKS TO LOOK AT A SUSTAINABILITY FUND AND SAY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LITERALLY OUT IN THE AIR, OUT IN THE ETHER.

A LOT OF VERY GOOD, TANGIBLE THINGS THAT ARE ALSO GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMEMBER.

I BELIEVE I'M LOOKING AT PAGE FOUR.

SLIDE FOUR.

IT SAYS 2122 WORKPLAN UPDATE.

IT HAS ON HERE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, AIR QUALITY MONITORING, LOW INCOME WEATHERIZATION, FOOD FELLOWS PROGRAM, AND THE ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.

AND THERE'S THE BUDGET ALLOCATION, AND IT SAYS IT'S IN PROGRESS.

BUT IT ALSO GIVES AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I NOTED THERE.

AND LOOKING AT ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT'S A PROGRAM AND IT'S GOING TO END? IT'S GOING TO END OR THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE MEANS TO BE DETERMINED DOWN HERE, UNDERNEATH THESE OTHER ONES THAT SAYS IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. SO THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS ON TARGET TO BE ESTABLISHED, TO BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD FOR THIS BODY TO GET ADOPTED FOR THE CITY.

IT'S ON HERE AS MAY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPECTING THAT TO BE JUNE.

IT HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIDE, NOT MUCH, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF SLIDE FOR THE AIR QUALITY AIR QUALITY MONITORING EQUIPMENT.

THE GOAL THERE WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS DONE IN JANUARY.

THAT'LL BE COMING FORWARD TO THIS BODY FOR ACTION DURING JANUARY.

THE LOW INCOME WEATHERIZATION THAT'S DEVELOPING THAT PROGRAM TO GET IT STARTED TO HOPEFULLY BEGIN IN MAY OF 2023.

THE FOOD FELLOWS AND THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, BOTH THOSE WERE KIND OF AN ONGOING SMALL PILOT TO LOOK AT HOW TO DO OUTREACH AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

THAT'S WHY THE DOLLAR FIGURE IS SMALLER AND THE DATES ARE SHORTER.

SO IT IS A LITTLE PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE.

THE CITY ELECTRIC FLEET, ELECTRIFICATION AND THE RAINWATER CAPTURE BOTH ARE A LITTLE BIT ON HOLD.

THE FLEET IS DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES, DOING DIFFERENT THINGS THERE AND ON THE RAINWATER.

WE'RE LOOKING CLOSELY AT WHICH FACILITIES MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO HAVE THAT IN WHICH TYPE OF SYSTEMS WE REALLY WANT TO INSTALL BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO INSTALL RAINWATER CAPTURE FOOD FELLOWS PROGRAM.

TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME SOME RESTAURANTS OR SOMETHING THAT WERE TRYING TO REACH THE CITY TO SEE HOW THEY COULD BE OF SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THE FOOD FELLOWS PROGRAM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO ASK KATHERINE BARNETTE IF SHE CAN COMMENT ON THAT FOR ME, BECAUSE I'M NOT AWARE OF RESTAURANTS REACHING OUT ON THE FOOD FELLOW SIDE.

WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE RESTAURANTS GO WITH THE FOOD FELLOW SIDE.

I JUST PUT THAT TOGETHER BECAUSE RESTAURANT FOOD, YOU KNOW.

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MAYBE THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE SOLID WASTE OUTREACH TO RESTAURANTS? I THINK SO, YEAH.

I REMEMBER THERE WAS AN OUTREACH TO RESTAURANT.

FOR SOME REASON I WAS TRYING TO CONNECT IT WITH THIS.

SO FOOD FELLOWS PROGRAM DID THAT.

HOW DID THAT WORK OUT FOR US? IS THAT IT COME ALONG OR START UP OR.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CLASSES AND THEN WE HAVE SOME MORE SCHEDULED FOR THIS SPRING.

BUT WE'VE HAD GOOD RESPONSE.

OKAY, GOOD. YES, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTION? MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH.

GOOD JOB, CAT. MICHAEL.

AND THE FACT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY KEY FOR ME IS THAT YOU ALL DID A GOOD JOB OF LOOKING AT OUR STRATEGIC GOALS AND KEY PRIORITIES FROM COUNCIL AND, AND A LOT OF THESE ITEMS LINE UP WITH THOSE.

SO WHETHER THAT CAME FROM STAFF OR WHETHER IT CAME FROM THE FACT COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THEY KEPT THEIR EYE ON THAT.

AND THAT'S LEADING TO THOSE DELIVERABLES THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS WAS REFERENCING.

THE THE THE ONE THING I THINK YOU SKIPPED OVER, BUT THAT THAT WELL, YOU PARTIALLY MENTIONED WAS SOME OF THE ELECTRIFICATION OPTIONS.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT PARTICULAR OPTIONS AND DEVELOPING THOSE PLANS.

DO DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE PLANS OR OR OR IN OUR WORK PLAN, DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE KINDS OF VEHICLES THAT WILL USE IT? AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS, I MEAN, WE ALWAYS THINK OF CARS, BUT THERE ARE EBIKES, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS.

AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN THE IRA AND SOME OF THE OTHER SUSTAINABILITY PLANS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHERE THERE'S ADDITIONAL DISCOUNTS, THERE'S ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR MASS TRANSIT AND BUSSES, OTHER THINGS.

SO ARE WE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON ON RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OR WHERE IS THE FOCUS RIGHT NOW? AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS? WELL, WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION PART, WITHIN THE MONEY, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS ACROSS ALL OF DENTON.

SO THOSE THINGS WOULD COME IN.

SO THERE'S MENTIONS IN HERE LOOKING AT BIKE RENTAL OR BIKE USAGE, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY CHANGE OVER TO USE THAT MORE OFTEN AND MORE PLACES THAT COULD BE CITY RUN COULD BE AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'VE ALSO GOT TALKS IN HERE OR FUNDS IDENTIFIED TO LOOK AT SOLAR STRUCTURES ALONG WALKING TRAILS, DIFFERENT THINGS AND IN PARKS SO THAT AS PEOPLE USE THOSE AREAS, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO ALSO STOP CHARGE THEIR DEVICES OR THEIR RIDING EQUIPMENT, BUT ALSO LEARN THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING SOLAR POWER TO DO THAT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE AND PUT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE ALREADY 100% RENEWABLE AS AN ELECTRIC PROVIDER, AS DMAE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MARRY THAT IN WITH SHOWING THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS TO GENERATE POWER AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH, I DID. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COME THROUGH WHAT'S. MR. MAYOR, QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR OPENING COMMENTS.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'M JUST GOING TO SHARE MY COMMENTS.

AND IF I STEP OVER THE LINE, JUST SOMEBODY MUTE ME OR SOMETHING.

SO JUST TO REVIEW.

THE COUNCIL PASSED THE SUSTAINABILITY FUND, BUT WE DID NOT PROVIDE ANY FUNDING FOR IT AT THIS TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S STILL A BUDGET ITEM TO BE DETERMINED.

IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT FOR.

I CAN HELP WITH THAT, FOR WHOEVER CAN ANSWER IT.

I CAN HELP WITH THAT QUESTION. YES.

YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET.

SO THE BUDGET ITSELF DID OUTLINE FOR THE THE FRAMEWORK FUND TO HAVE $4 MILLION ALLOCATED TO IT DURING FISCAL YEAR 2223.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BACK ON SLIDE TWO.

IF YOU LOOK ON THAT, THE ORDINANCE WHERE THAT WAS ADOPTED AND HOW THAT'S PART OF THE BUDGET IS IDENTIFIED THERE.

RIGHT. BUT THAT'S ALSO CONTINGENT UPON THAT STILL IS COUNCIL'S DECISION ONCE WE GET THE FULL TRUE PICTURE OF THE BUDGETARY PROCESS.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, OR IS THAT WAS THAT AN AUTOMATIC FUNDING OF THAT FUND AS WELL AS THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE LOOKED AT? NO, I THINK AROUND THAT WHAT I'LL HELP ON THAT IS NO, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS A REVENUE GENERATED FUND.

SO AS THOSE REVENUES COME IN, WE'LL BALANCE OUR EXPENSES.

SO YES, WE ANTICIPATED REVENUE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE $4 MILLION UP TO THIS.

THIS WORK PLAN OUTLINES HOW THOSE EXPENDITURES WILL BE DONE AS THOSE REVENUES ACCRUE.

SO IF THE REVENUES SHOW UP, WE'VE GOT IT.

IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY.

YES, SIR. AND THE WORK PLAN ITSELF, WITH THE SPECIFIC SORT OF GENERAL CATEGORIES, DO THOSE AS THOSE SORT OF GO FORWARD WITH EITHER APPROVAL OR APPROVAL? DO THOSE COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL ON THE SPECIFIC ACTUAL PROJECTS, OR IS THAT ARE THEY GENERAL ENOUGH TO WHERE I MEAN, HOW DOES IT WORK FOR,

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SO THAT'S ALLOCATED $100,000.

SO LET'S SAY WE PUT THAT PROGRAM TOGETHER.

IS THAT PART OF A BUDGETARY PRESENTATION? IS THAT PART OF THE POLICY PRESENTATION, OR IS THAT JUST SORT OF A STAFF INITIATED TYPE OF PROGRAM? IT'D BE STAFF INITIATED.

AND THEN IF WE HAD PROCUREMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT PROCUREMENT PROCESS WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR SURE.

WE WOULD BE UPDATING COUNCIL AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THIS WORKPLAN AS WELL.

SO YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING ON THAT.

BUT IF THAT'S WITHIN OUR REALM, WITHIN OUR PROCUREMENT AND OUR OPERATIONAL FIELD, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD INITIATE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TO GET IT OUT THERE.

OKAY. SO I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

I THINK THERE'S I GUESS THE QUESTION IS ON THE FUNDING PART, IS THERE A LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS CAN BE BELOW THAT DO NOT REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL? I THINK SOME OF THEM, YES.

I MEAN, SOME ON THEIR LIST ON THEIR PROJECT LIST IS BELOW THE COUNCIL APPROVAL LEVEL.

YES. OKAY.

NOT ALL BUT SOME.

BUT WE WOULD GET SOME TYPE OF INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, THOSE PROGRAMS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

YES, THEY HAVE A WORK PLAN THAT HAS THE LIST OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AND THE APPROXIMATE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

AND SOME OF THOSE ARE WAY BELOW THE COUNCIL APPROVAL LEVEL.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, AS WE HAVE TRIED TO DO AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO, IS UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON WHERE WE ARE ON THE PROGRAM AND ON THE MATRIX OF WHAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. THE PROGRESS.

MATTER OF FACT, I GET AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE WORK AND WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL GETS THAT AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE SPENDING IT.

AND IN SOME CASES WE MAY NOT HAVE TO SPEND A DIME IF WE HAVE A PARTNERING EFFORT OR THERE'S GRANTS THAT WE CAN TAP INTO.

JUST JUST REAL BRIEFLY, MAYOR, IF I COULD, ON A COUPLE OF THESE, JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SORT OF REFERRING TO, LIKE ON THE IRRIGATION INCENTIVES, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION. IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT.

I'VE I'VE LOBBIED FOR AND ASKED FOR THAT.

WE SOMETIMES LOOK AT US REQUIRING IRRIGATION SYSTEMS FOR EVERY PROPERTY NEW PROJECT THAT'S BUILT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR ISSUES WITH WATER AND OUR OUR DESIRE TO CONSERVE WATER.

IRRIGATION SYSTEMS ARE THE ONES THAT USE THE MOST WATER OF ANY TYPE OF WATER SYSTEM.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE HYDRANT FLUSHING CAPTURE.

DOES THAT MEAN IF YOU'RE FLUSHING A HYDRANT THAT YOU JUST SORT OF PUMP IT BACK INTO A TRUCK AND THEN WE USE IT FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? BASICALLY, YES.

IT'S A REUSE OF THAT WATER.

INSTEAD, IT IS THE LOSS OF THAT WATER, BECAUSE CURRENTLY WHEN YOU FLUSH THE HYDRANT, IT'S JUST A WATER RESOURCE THAT RUNS OFF AND GOES BACK INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM.

THERE'S A WAY TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE THAT AND REUSE IT FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.

WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THE COMMITTEES WORK IN THIS, BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE REALLY GOOD PROJECTS.

AND I'M GOING TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS THAT THEY DO PROVIDE SOME DIRECT RATE OF RETURN FOR OUR CITIZENS.

THEY'RE NOT JUST ALL INTANGIBLES, BUT THAT WE CAN REALLY POINT TO THINGS THAT REALLY IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I APPRECIATE THEIR WORK ON THAT.

I GUESS I WAS JUST REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW ALL OF IT WORKED FROM A FUNDING MECHANISM AND THE PROCESS OF MOVING THOSE PROJECTS FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? SINAN, I WILL JUST SAY THIS AND CONCLUDE THAT I WOULD ASK AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS IF I HAVE TO GO SOLICIT SUPPORT OR YOU TELL ME HOW THIS WORKS.

BUT ON AND I'M TRYING TO FIND A CATEGORY, BUT IT'S RESILIENCY HUB.

I JUST WOULD LIKE THAT STIPULATED IN THE PLAN THAT THAT'S NOT A NEW BUILDING.

I DON'T SEE A PURPOSE IN CREATING A BRAND NEW BUILDING.

AND IF THAT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE THE CASE, THEN TELL ME THAT.

AND THAT'S GREAT TOO.

BUT I JUST THINK WE HAVE BETWEEN THE REC CENTERS, LIBRARIES, WE HAVE FACILITIES THAT HAVE AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO LOUNGE TO THEN SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH POWER AND SOME OTHER THINGS MAKE SENSE TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING THAT FUNCTIONS AS A REC CENTER WITHOUT THE REC IS SEEMS COST PROHIBITIVE.

YOU ARE 100% ACCURATE, THOUGH.

IT'S NOT A NEW BUILDING BECAUSE RETROFITTING AN EXISTING BUILDING TO MAKE IT BE A RESILIENCE HUB.

SO IT'S ADDING TO IT. IT'S ADDING VALUE TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

SO MAYBE IF WE CAN PUT AN ASTERIX OR SOMETHING IN THERE, THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR ME.

THEN THE OTHER ONLY OTHER THING IS ON SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS, I'D LOVE TO SEE STAFF GIVE SOME INSIGHT ONTO EITHER BRANDS OR SPEC GUIDELINES TO SAY, YOU CAN'T JUST GO, I CAN'T GO BUILD MY OWN OR FIND THE CHEAPEST WHATEVER AND CALL IT DONE AND QUALIFY FOR GRANTS OR SUPPORT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SPECIFICATIONS.

IF IT'S LOW FLUSH, THEN IT'S RIGHT.

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THEY'LL BE CERTAIN THINGS THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET TO BUILD TO QUALIFY.

THAT'S AN EASIER ONE BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO FROM A GAS TO AN ELECTRIC OR GETTING THE IMMEDIATE SAVINGS OF REMOVING THAT GAS EQUIPMENT, BUT FOR IRRIGATION, WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING CERTAIN THINGS IN CERTAIN WAYS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND WITHIN THE LAWN EQUIPMENT, WE'D ALSO BE LOOKING AT THERE'S GUIDANCE OUT THERE BOTH AT A FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL FROM DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON ON WHICH BRANDS AND WHICH ONES MAKE THE MOST SENSE AND HAVE THE MOST LONG TERM VALUE FOR THE PERSON INVESTING IN THEM.

OKAY, GREAT. YEAH, THEN THAT WORKS FOR ME.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE THINGS.

MAYOR JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE POINT.

I THINK THAT COUNCILMEMBER MARTZ MIGHT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET TO, WHICH IS WE WILL ONLY SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED AT THAT TIME.

WE WILL NOT SURPASS BECAUSE THE MONEY COMES IN, HOPEFULLY IN AREAS SO THAT WE WON'T SPEND WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. AND TO ECHO THAT, IF I MAY, JUST FOR ONE SECOND, THAT ACTUALLY IS CLARIFIED TO JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON THERE.

IF YOU LOOK ON SLIDE TWO, WE CLARIFY THERE THAT NODE EXPENDITURES WILL FOLLOW REVENUES AND AS REVENUES ARE RECEIVED AND EXPENDITURES WILL BE APPROVED.

SO WE'RE BEING SMART WITH THAT MONEY AND WE'RE NOT GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES.

WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT PROCESSES, DIFFERENT THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE READY TO SPEND IT WHEN IT'S HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUT THERE AND SPEND IT BEFORE WE HAVE THE MONEY. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

THAT TAKES US TO ITEM D, WHICH IS ID 222383 RECEIVE REPORT.

[D. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction to seek authorization from the Texas State Legislature for an economic development tool known as the qualified hotel project program.]

YEAH, I THINK SO.

YEAH.

OK. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

WAYNE EMERSON, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND COUNCILMAN WATTS, CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN? YES, I CAN. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

TODAY, OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO SEEK AUTHORIZATION FROM THE TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL KNOWN AS THE QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT PROGRAM. OUR AGENDA TODAY IS TO FOCUS ON THESE CITIES OR TO LOOK AT THE CITY'S STRATEGIC STRATEGIC FOCUS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

A OVERVIEW OF THE QUALIFIED HOTEL PROGRAM.

SOME POTENTIAL REVENUES FROM THE HARP PROGRAM, QUALIFIED HOTEL LEGISLATION, TIMELINE AND THEN SUMMARY AND DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

SO KEY FOCUS AREA THREE IS TO FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY AND TO INCREASE TOURISM TO THE CITY.

AND THEN AS PART OF OUR PART OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAVE OUR COMPETITIVE DENTON, WHICH INCLUDES THE CONTINUED USE OF VARIOUS TOOLS TO STIMULATE NEW PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THE CITY.

SO THE QUALIFIED HOTEL PROGRAM IS CREATED AS A PUBLIC PRIVATE FINANCIAL TOOL THAT ASSISTS TEXAS MUNICIPALITIES WITH THE FINANCING OF HOTEL FACILITIES DESIGNED TO SUPPORT CONVENTION SPACE.

MUNICIPALITIES ARE AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE REBATES OF THE STATE'S HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND THE STATE'S SALES TAX, COLLECTED ON AN ASSOCIATED HOTEL PROJECT FOR A TEN YEAR PERIOD.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 48 MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED, AND DENTON IS NOT ONE OF THOSE.

SO THESE ARE OR I'M SORRY, THESE REBATES OF THE STATE'S TAXES CAN BE USED FOR THE PAYMENT OF BONDS OR OTHER OBLIGATIONS ISSUED OR OR INCURRED TO ACQUIRE, LEASE, CONSTRUCT OR EQUIP THE FOLLOWING PARKING FACILITIES, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, STREET WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN CONVENTION CENTER ENTERTAINMENT RELATED FACILITIES.

SO SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT THERE MUST BE AT LEAST 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF CONTINUOUS MEETING SPACE.

THAT MEETING SPACE MUST BE WHOLLY OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY.

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PRIMARILY USED TO HOST CONVENTIONS AND OR MEETINGS, AND THE HOTEL PROJECT MUST BE OWNED BY OR LOCATED ON LAND OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY AND LOCATED WITHIN 1000 FEET OF THE QUALIFIED CONVENTION SPACE.

SO THE OPPORTUNITY HERE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL, THE POTENTIAL REVENUES.

SO ANY LET'S SAY WE HAVE A HOTEL PROJECT THAT IS ELIGIBLE UNDER THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE UNDER THE AHP.

CURRENTLY THE THE CITY WOULD COLLECT ITS 7% OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, BUT WE WOULD TURN THAT $7, ADD THE STATE'S $6 AND WE'RE GOING TO GET $13 FOR EVERY $100 SPENT RELATED TO A HOTEL PROJECT.

CONVERSELY, ANY REGULAR SALES TAX REVENUE THAT IS COLLECTED CURRENTLY THE CITY ONLY SEES A DOLLAR 50 PER $100 SPENT UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

WE WOULD GET THE 625 OF THE STATE'S REVENUE TURNING OUR DOLLAR 50 INTO $7.75 PER $100 SPENT.

AND THEN SO OVER HERE TO THE SIDE I HAVE I MENTIONED, THERE ARE 48 MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED.

HOWEVER, THERE'S ONLY 11 PROJECTS IN NINE CITIES AS OF 2021 THAT THAT HAVE CURRENTLY COMPLETED A PROJECT AND STARTED RECEIVING REBATES.

I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST ONE GRAPEVINE FOR SURE THAT'S COME ON SINCE 2021, AND I'M SURE THERE'S A THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHERS.

BUT THESE I THINK IF YOU LOOK OVER HERE, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE.

CITY OF HOUSTON GOT ABOUT $40 MILLION ON THE HIGH END, DALLAS 42 MILLION.

AND THEN DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM, WE CAN SEE THAT.

WELL, I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME.

SO THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND DALLAS, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEAR COMPLETED OR COMPLETED.

AND THESE BOTTOM ONES, THEY ARE REALLY JUST KIND OF IN THEIR INFANCY.

I DID AN ANALYSIS AND IT COMES OUT TO YOU IF YOU DO THE AVERAGE OF ALL THESE REBATES, IT'S ABOUT 240,000 A MONTH OR CLOSE TO $3 MILLION A YEAR AND POTENTIAL STATE REBATED REVENUE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WHY AM I COMING TO YOU TODAY? WELL, BECAUSE THE THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT MUST BE AUTHORIZED, AS I MENTIONED, BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY MEETING NOW, SO THEY WILL NOT MEET AGAIN UNTIL TWO YEARS FROM TODAY.

SO. TIME IS IS KIND OF WORKING AGAINST US.

SO THE CURRENT TIMELINE IS JANUARY 2023.

WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR CONSULTANTS TO GET THE LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATION DRAFTED IN FEBRUARY, FILE THAT LEGISLATION, AND THEN THE DEADLINE FOR APPROVAL WOULD BE MAY 2023.

AND THEN THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THAT LEGISLATION WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 2023.

SO I WANT TO NOTE THAT HERE TODAY, SEEKING THIS LEGISLATION DOES NOT COMMIT THE CITY TO ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT.

IF THE CITY DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD, THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY, AS I STATED EARLIER, WILL NOT BE UNTIL 2025.

SO IN SUMMARY, APPROVAL FOR THIS TEXAS QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT PROGRAM WOULD PROVIDE THE CITY OF DENTON WITH AN ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC FOCUS AND INITIATIVES, SPECIFICALLY INCREASING TOURISM AND USING VARIOUS TOOLS TO BRING MORE PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO THE CITY.

APPROVAL OF THE PROGRAM DOES NOT COMMIT US TO ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT.

THIS TOOL COULD ALSO BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND THE PARKING ASSESSMENT.

AND ANY.

ANY POTENTIAL QUALIFIED PROJECT OR OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES OUR WAY WILL STILL GO THROUGH THE CITY'S REGULAR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, AS WELL AS ITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH COULD INCLUDE A COMPETITIVE REQUEST FOR APPROVAL.

IN ADDITION TO THAT REVIEW PROCESS, IF THERE COULD BE TERS BOARD REVIEW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP, BOARD REVIEW, AND THEN OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL HAS FINAL APPROVAL ON ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROJECTS.

SO I'M ASKING FOR DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL TODAY TO EITHER PROCEED WITH SEEKING AUTHORIZATION FROM THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT OR DO NOT PROCEED.

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QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

PLATOON. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IF WE GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AND APPLY FOR THIS, DO WE HAVE TO BE HAVING A I MEAN, I KNOW YOU SAID WE'RE NOT TIED TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT DO WE HAVE TO BE GIVING THEM A SPECIFIC PROJECT CONCEPT OR WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE AUTHORITY GENERICALLY.

SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE AUTHORITY.

SO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S CURRENTLY 48 MUNICIPALITIES AND THERE'S ONLY BEEN 11 COMPLETED.

AND I THINK AS IN MY NOTES, THERE'S ONLY AN ADDITIONAL 12 THAT HAVE AN AGREEMENT.

THE REST ARE ALL IN THE PRE PLANNING PHASE OR NO PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

AND I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE TO QUALIFY FOR THIS SOME FUTURE.

SHOULD WE GET THE AUTHORITY SOME FUTURE PROJECT WOULD NEED TO HAVE MEETING SPACE OR CONVENTION SPACES.

CORRECT. CORRECT. 10,000 A MINIMUM OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO AS WE SIT TODAY WITHOUT ADDING CONVENTION OR MEETING SPACE, ONLY EMBASSY SUITES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

WELL, AND I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT EVEN EMBASSY SUITES WOULD, BECAUSE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF OTHER PIECES.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN USE A BE A LEGAL QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD BE A PRE EXISTING PROJECT, BUT FOR SURE YOU NEED LAND. THE LAND MUST BE OWNED BY THE CITY.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO USE EMBASSY SUITES AS AN EXAMPLE, THE LAND WOULD HAVE TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY.

THE CONVENTION SPACE ITSELF MUST BE WHOLLY OWNED, MEANING THE LAND AND THE CONVENTION SPACE MUST BE OWNED BY THE CITY.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME EVEN THE WAY THE THE FACILITY IS CONFIGURED, THERE'S SOME LEGAL PIECES WHICH AS I WENT DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY ATTORNEYS WILL ONLY TELL YOU SO MUCH INFORMATION FOR FREE.

BUT THERE'S THERE'S SOME LEGAL WAYS AND WAY THAT THAT SPACE NEEDS TO BE CONFIGURED.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THOUGH, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY AMBIGUITY.

NO, THE EMBASSY SUITES CAN'T DO IT UNLESS THEY WERE TO GIVE US THEIR LAND, WHICH THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE US THEIR CONVENTION CENTER.

NO, IT IS TO ALL THOSE LISTENING.

NO, IT CAN'T BE DONE.

THAT'S THAT'S MY WORDS, NOT WAYNE.

GO AHEAD. I THINK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, THAT'S ACTUALLY I WAS I WAS KIND OF ASKING THE REVERSE OF THAT FOR THIS SAME REASON FOR YOUR COMMENT.

SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ONLY PROJECT I'M AWARE OF IS IS IS THE WELLS FARGO DEVELOPED REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE SUITABLE FOR THIS SORT OF THING.

AGAIN, WE DON'T OWN THAT LAND, RIGHT? SO I JUST DON'T WANT I JUST DON'T WANT RUMORS, RIGHT? NO, WE WE DO NOT OWN THAT LAND.

CORRECT. AND THAT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE OWN THE LAND.

WE MUST OWN THE LAND.

SO THEY MUST OWN THE CONVENTION CENTER.

CORRECT. WHICH IT DOES NOT HAVE CURRENTLY.

NO. RIGHT. OKAY, GO AHEAD.

SO I MY DIRECTION WOULD BE I'M OKAY WITH HAVING A TOOL IN OUR TOOL KIT.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING A TOOL IN OUR TOOL KIT.

I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL.

GIVEN THAT LAST QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR ADMONISHED ME ABOUT THE THAT WE BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE THE THAT REGION OF DOWNTOWN.

THERE IS THERE'S THERE'S A BALANCE OF INTERESTS AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL.

I'M JUST SAYING THE COMMUNITY IS OF MULTIPLE MINDS ABOUT DEVELOPING IN THAT REGION.

AND AND IF WE'RE NOT TIED TO A PARTICULAR PROJECT FOR NOT OBLIGATED, THEN HAVING A TOOL IS A IS BENEFICIAL.

I'M HAVING A TOOL JUST MEANS THAT WE POTENTIALLY GET EXTRA REVENUE SHOULD A PROJECT MAGICALLY MATERIALIZE SOMEWHERE.

SO I'M FOR HAVING THE TOOL.

COUNCILOR MCGINN AND COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WAYNE.

WELL DONE. WELL DONE. I APPRECIATE THIS.

JUST TO REPEAT IT AGAIN, FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CHEAP SEATS, THIS IS NOT TIED TO ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY.

I THINK I APPLAUD YOU FOR FOR THINKING OF THIS.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING TO PUT US ON PACE FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS CITY EVEN BETTER.

SO I VERY MUCH APPLAUD THIS.

MY DIRECTION IS TO ABSOLUTELY MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THIS IS GOING TO LET FOLKS KNOW, HEY, DIDN'T IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND WE HAVE ALL THAT MAYOR PRO TEM SAID WE HAVE THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLKIT TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH CITIES THAT ARE NEAR US AND EVEN CITIES THAT ARE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE.

SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT IDEA.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS FUTURISTIC IN TERMS OF REALLY KEEPING US ON PACE TO COMPETE INTO THE FUTURE.

SO ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE MOVE FORWARD.

GO BACK. CATHERINE DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE FUNDING MECHANISM.

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SURE. BECAUSE.

SO SOMEONE STAYS THE NIGHT IN A HOTEL.

THERE IS A PORTION OF WHAT THEY PAY THAT IS A SALES TAX AND A PORTION THAT'S A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX THAT GETS COLLECTED BY THE HOTEL OR WHOEVER IS PROCESSING THAT CREDIT CARD PAYMENT THAT IS REMITTED TO THE STATE CONTROLLER.

AND AT REGULAR INTERVALS, THE STATE CONTROLLER SENDS A PORTION OF THAT BACK TO US.

OUR CUT OF THE SALES TAX AND THE CITIES I SAY ARE THE CITIES CUT OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A PROGRAM WHEREBY THE STATES PORTION THE PART, THEY KEEP THE CUT WE NEVER GET TO SEE AND NEVER, NEVER COMES BACK TO DENTON, EXCEPT IN WHATEVER STATE PROJECTS THAT THAT WOULD COME BACK TO DENTON.

AND GO TO WHOM? TO US FOR OPERATING OR CONVENTION CENTER OR TO THE HOTEL FOR BUILDING AND FINANCING THEIR HOTEL.

WHO WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO? SO THAT THAT'S UP TO US.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS WE CAN'T SEE THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE.

BUT IF YOU GO TO SLIDE THE POTENTIAL REVENUE SIDE, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO. WELL, NO, IT'S I CAN'T SEE THE SLIDE NUMBERS ON HERE, BUT HERE'S WHAT THE REBATES CAN BE ELIGIBLE FOR AND FOR ANY LIABILITIES OR COSTS INCURRED. SO, NUMBER ONE, I WOULD SAY THAT SINCE THE CITY HAS TO OWN THE CONVENTION SPACE, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE FIRST LIABILITY.

BUT IT COULD ALSO BE USED FOR PARKING FACILITIES, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT, OR CONVENTION OR ANY OTHER ENTERTAINMENT RELATED FACILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THE PROJECT.

SO JUST AND IT'S APPORTION MUST BE USED FOR THAT.

SO IN THEORY YOU COULD COME OUT A NET POSITIVE ON THAT, RIGHT.

SO YOU'RE GETTING IT. THE REASON WHY I ASK THE QUESTION IN THE WAY THAT I DID SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL AT SOME FUTURE TIME, THE CITY TO DETERMINE DOES ALL OF THAT STATE REBATE GO TO RETIRE OUR OWN DEBT ON A CONVENTION CENTER, OR DOES SOME OF IT GO TO A ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS CITY OWNED? BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME PRIVATELY OWNED PROJECTS THAT COULD.

NO, IT GOES IT GOES TO THE CITY.

AND THEN THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE HOW WHAT LIABILITIES OR WHAT THEY WANT TO USE TO PAY THOSE REBATE BACKS FOR.

BUT THE ONLY PART OF THAT THAT I THAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE PRESENTATION, BRIANNA, THIS IS A MORE COMPLEX PROGRAM THAN ANY POWERPOINT SLIDE SHOW IS EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONVEY. BUT. THE CITY.

THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS TO BE WHOLLY OWNED BY THE CITY.

THE CONVENTION SPACE, CORRECT.

IT COULD BE LITERALLY JUST A WAREHOUSE THAT WE CALL A CONVENTION SPACE.

BUT IT'S GOT TO BE THE CONVENTION SPACE, THE PLACE WHERE THE CONVENTIONS HAPPEN 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR MORE CITY OWNED ON CITY LAND, NOT LEASED TO ANYBODY.

AND THERE HAS TO BE A HOTEL WITHIN 1000 FEET.

AND THE HOTEL IS WHERE THE HOT FUNDS AND SALES TAX FUNDS WOULD COME FROM THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THAT HOTEL OR LET'S SAY THAT THERE'S WE BUILD A PARKING FACILITY AND THERE'S A RETAIL COMPONENT TO THAT SALES TAX FROM THAT RETAIL COMPONENT.

LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN ANY OTHER SALES TAX THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ENTIRE PROJECT.

SO IF THERE'S A RESTAURANT ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL, YOU GET ALL THE SALES TAX THERE.

ANY OTHER TAX MAY BE COLLECTED ON ANY OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.

YOU CAN RECEIVE THOSE TAXES.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING YOU SAID IN THERE IS YOU SAID IT COULD NOT BE LEASED, I THINK.

YOU AS LONG AS THE CITY OWNS IT.

I MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY LEASE IT.

I WAS BEING INARTICULATE THERE.

WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT IT'S NOT CITY.

IT'S NOT LAND THAT THE CITY HAS LEASED LONG TERM FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING A CONVENTION CENTER.

IT'S GOT TO BE DIRT TO THE ROOF OWNED BY THE CITIZENS.

MY, MY, MY DIRECTION IS THIS.

I AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM.

I DON'T THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S A NEGATIVE TO HAVE A TOOL IN THE TOOL KIT.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT I ALSO AM VERY WARY OF WE'VE HAD A VERY BAD CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT PITCHED TO THE CITY IN YEARS PAST AND WE HAD A VERY, VERY GOOD CONVENTION CENTER THAT DID MATERIALIZE AND HAS BEEN AN ENORMOUS BOON FOR THE CITY THAT WE MAKE USE OF FOR OUR EVENTS.

THAT'S BEEN A HUGE ECONOMIC BOON FOR THE CITY.

BUT BEFORE WE GOT THAT ONE, WE HAD A PRETTY TERRIBLE PROJECT THAT WAS PITCHED AND THAT WE HAD THE THE FORESIGHT, IN MY BELIEF, THE FORESIGHT NOT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD BEFORE WE ENDED UP WITH THE EMBASSY SUITES THAT WE HAVE NOW.

SO I WANT TO JUST BE VERY, VERY CLEAR TO ANYONE IN THE LEGISLATURE WHO WONDERS OR CITIZENS WHO ARE WATCHING OR DEVELOPERS WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT IT.

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I THINK SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH PIDS AND TERS AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE ARE, WE'VE DONE PIDS IN THIS CITY.

SO A DEVELOPER WILL COME FORWARD AND SAY, WELL, Y'ALL DID PIDS OVER HERE AND YOU DID ONE OVER THERE.

WHY CAN'T MY PROJECT GET A PID? AND I'VE BECOME VERY PRACTICED AT TELLING THEM, HERE'S WHY YOUR PROJECT IS NOT GOOD.

HERE'S WHY YOUR PROJECT DOESN'T QUALIFY.

JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATURE GAVE US THE ABILITY TO DO IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET IT.

SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN THE ROOM OR AT LARGE TO BE UNDER THE ILLUSION THAT I WON'T STARE DOWN A BAD DEAL, THAT THIS IS NOT JUST OPENING THE DOOR TO WHATEVER WHOEVER SHOWS UP WANTING TO BUILD A HOTEL AND PITCH US A CONVENTION CENTER.

I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL BEFORE ANY PROJECT LIKE THAT GOT ANY FURTHER THAN THE DRAWING BOARD FOR THIS BODY AND THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE AN ANALYSIS OF CONVENTION CENTER SPACE.

WHAT DO WE NEED? WHAT OTHER CITIES OUR SIZE DO WE HAVE PEOPLE VERY WELL EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT DO WE NEED, WHAT DOES THE CITY NEED TO BE INVESTING IN IN THAT AREA BEFORE WE'VE GOT BIG, SPLASHY REVEALS OF THINGS? SO SO I THINK TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMEMBER, IS THAT THE LANGUAGE INCENTIVE AND MY PHILOSOPHY IS THAT THE POINT OF AN INCENTIVE IS TO BRING US DEVELOPMENT THAT THE CITY WANTS, THE COUNCIL WANTS, THAT THE RESIDENT WANTS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE HAVE INCENTIVES, RIGHT? IT'S TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT, NOT JUST NECESSARILY DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? OTHERWISE IT'S NOT REALLY AN INCENTIVE.

SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

AND ANY I WOULD I WOULD SAY IF THIS IS A TOOL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN MY TOOLBOX, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE MY GOAL AND MY PHILOSOPHY.

I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT.

I JUST WANT IT TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR BECAUSE THERE ARE CITIES THAT A DEVELOPER OF WHATEVER KIND OF PROJECT, CONVENTION CENTER OR A MASSIVE SUBDIVISION OR WHATEVER, THEY COME TO THE CITY AND THEY SEE THAT THEY HAVE AN INCENTIVE AVAILABLE AND THEY EXPECT TO BE WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS AND ABSOLUTELY DENTON THIS IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS, BUT WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR HISTORY, I THINK, OF DRIVING A HARD BARGAIN AND DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR FOLKS.

SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE UNDER THE DELUSION AGAIN, FUTURE DEVELOPERS WATCHING THIS OR OR CITIZENS AT HOME WATCHING THIS TO BE UNDER THE DELUSION THAT THIS IS OPEN SEASON FOR ANY KIND OF PROJECT THAT WALKS IN THE DOOR.

AND I'M GOING TO BE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. YES, ROBERT.

MY QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THIS CONNECT WITH.

I MEAN, HAVE WE ALREADY.

OKAY, I'LL STOP HERE.

I'M GETTING READY TO START THINKING OF OTHER THINGS I'M GOING TO SAY.

FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH SEEKING THE AUTHORIZATION.

BUT I'M ALSO JUST WONDERING, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH PROPERTY THE CITY OWNS.

I HAVEN'T INQUIRED.

I KNOW THAT THEY WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT BEFORE.

BUT BECAUSE THIS IS NOW CONNECTED WITH SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO WHERE WOULD WE PUT SOMETHING IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE THIS AUTHORIZATION AND WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THAT AS FAR AS CITY PROPERTY OR CITY FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, JUST IS THAT ALREADY KIND OF SET AND MOVING MOVING FORWARD OR HOW FAR ALONG ARE WE? SO AS FAR AS I MEAN, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE UNDER THE STATUTE THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO OWN THE PROPERTY.

SO IT COULD BE PROPERTY WE OWN TODAY, IT COULD BE PROPERTY THAT WE ACQUIRE IN SOME FORM OR FASHION INTO THE FUTURE.

THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY REQUIREMENT.

SO WHERE THAT IS, I THINK GOING BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS SAID IS I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MARKET STUDY AND ANALYSIS OF WHERE THE APPROPRIATE PLACES.

AND WE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE IF THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES AND.

AS FAR AS WHERE TODAY I COULDN'T TELL YOU OR WHICH PROPERTY THE CITY OWNS TODAY.

BUT THERE ARE.

THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOT A FUTURE OPPORTUNITY IN WHICH THE CITY OWNS PROPERTY, THAT WE COULD USE THIS TOOL.

SO THIS IS THIS IS JUST JUST SEEKING THE AUTHORIZATION, JUST PUTTING IN THE APPLICATION FOR FOR THE OPPORTUNITY ASKING. SO WITH THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M AROUND A LOT OF KIDS AND A LOT OF FAMILIES ALL THE TIME.

SO WE WANT A SKATING RINK.

WE WANT YOU ALL TO BUY MACY'S AND PUT US A BIG TIME ENTERTAINMENT CENTER IN THERE.

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ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THE CHILDREN WANTED ME TO TELL YOU ALL.

OKAY. NOTED CITY MANAGER.

SO JUST REAL QUICK, I THINK JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING CLEAR.

THIS ONE IS JUST A TOOL.

WE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY LOOKING AT A PROJECT AT THIS POINT AND WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING UNLESS IT CAME BACK TO THE MAYOR COUNCIL.

ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT THIS CAN BE USED, THOUGH, IS AFTER A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS COMPLETED AND WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR OTHER PLANS.

THE CITY COULD, IN FACT DO AN RFI AND THEIR OWN AND DRAW IN, NOT HAVE SOMEONE COME TO US, BUT WE DRIVE IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY I THINK THE TOOL IS ENTICING, NOT NECESSARILY FOR SOMEONE TO COME TO US, BUT FOR US TO SET THE BOUNDARIES, FOR US TO SAY WHAT WE WANT AND SAY WHEN WE WANT TO DO IT.

SO BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GLIMMER RIGHT NOW THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.

SO YEAH, IT HAS TO COME LATER.

OKAY, COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GIVE DIRECTION RIGHT OFF THE FRONT, BUT I'M GOING TO REALLY I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THIS.

SO I THINK IT'S A TOOL THAT WE CAN USE IN OUR TOOLBOX.

BUT I THINK I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT I MEAN, WHEN I HEAR WORDS LIKE SO I'M OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THE LEGISLATION, THAT'S THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT.

BUT WHEN I HEAR THE WORDS LIKE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND LOOK, LET'S JUST BE TRUTHFUL.

NO, THIS IS NOT TIED TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN PITCHED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE A HOTEL WITH SOME CONVENTION SPACE AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING ON IT, QUITE FRANKLY.

I'VE JUST HEARD ABOUT IT THROUGH WHAT I'VE READ IN THE REPORTS.

SO, NO, THIS IS NOT TIED TO ANYTHING, BUT I THINK IT'S PREPARING IN CASE SOMETHING COMES, WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION. AND I'M GOING TO CONCUR WITH COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

I WAS AROUND WHEN THE FIRST CONVENTION CENTER WAS PITCHED AT A CERTAIN LOCATION WHERE THE CITY WAS GOING TO HAVE DEBT ON A BUILDING IT DID NOT OWN.

AND WE FOUGHT HARD TO CHANGE THAT AND TO CHANGE THAT PARADIGM AND TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, WHICH IS A RESOUNDING SUCCESS EVEN AFTER GOING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC THAT THEY ENDURED.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THE LEGISLATION, BUT.

THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE TOOL THAT IS GOING TO GET.

FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE NEED THIS.

AND LET'S LOOK AT THE RESTRICTIONS.

IT'S GOT TO BE TIED TO A HOTEL.

THE HOTEL HAS TO BE ON CITY LAND.

IS THAT CORRECT? CITY OWNED LAND, CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. NOT ONLY DOES THE HOTEL HAVE TO BE ON CITY OWNED LAND, THE CONVENTION SPACE HAS TO BE ON CITY OWNED LAND.

AND THE CONVENTION SPACE HAS TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? YES. OKAY.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE REVENUES GENERATED NOW, I APPRECIATE IN THE TABLE THE LARGE CITIES AND THEIR REVENUE, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO COME CLOSE TO THAT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE EMBASSY SUITES IS GENERATING.

IF THEY WERE ON THIS PROJECT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.

BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT THIS WOULD EVEN FUND WHOLLY ANY TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS CONVENTION CENTER AND OR HOTEL. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CONVENTION CENTER IS THE THING YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIRST.

ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THAT THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO FUND HAS TO BE SECONDARY, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE TOOL AND THE LEGISLATIVE ASPECT.

I THINK, THOUGH, WE'RE FOOLING OURSELVES IF SOMEHOW THE TIMING OF THIS ISN'T AT LEAST ASSOCIATED TO SOMEWHAT WITH SOME DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IF TIME WAS NOT OF THE ESSENCE, YOU KNOW THIS WE'RE PRESENTING THIS THE DAYS AFTER LEGISLATION HAS BEGUN, THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEGUN WHEN WE'VE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS FORWARD PRIOR TO THIS.

SO I'M OKAY WITH IT MOVING FORWARD AS A TOOL.

I'M NOT OKAY WITH PUTTING THIS AHEAD OF A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.

I'M NOT OKAY WITH PUTTING A PROJECT THIS AHEAD OF SPENDING THE MONEY WE NEED TO GET THE DOWNTOWN OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN SO WE CAN FULLY DEVELOP IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HERE, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO IF SOMETHING DOES COME FORWARD, TRYING TO UTILIZE THIS TO REALLY GIVE IT SOME SOME GOOD DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT WILL BENEFIT WHATEVER AREA WE'RE TRYING TO BENEFIT WITH THIS TOOL MUCH BETTER THAN THAN NECESSARILY GOING DOWN THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

AND JUST IN SUMMARY, I'LL JUST SAY I APPRECIATE THE TABLE.

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FINE WITH THAT. FINE WITH THE DISCUSSION.

BUT BUT I WANT TO GIVE AND I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MAYBE, WAYNE, IF YOU CAN MAYBE ADD FRIDAY REPORTS IN THE FUTURE, GIVE KIND OF SOME SOME NUGGETS AS YOU GET THOSE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND I'LL GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN TO IRVING, THEY HAD A CONVENTION CENTER IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND THEN THEY BUILT THIS HOTEL THAT'S LISTED HERE, THE NOT YEAH.

IRVING YES, THE TEXACO COURT.

AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL.

IT'S VERY UNIQUE.

SITS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THEIR CONVENTION CENTER AND AFFORDED THEM SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

BUT I THINK YOU CAN GET IN THAT AND THE ONE IN NACOGDOCHES, VERY UNIQUE HOTEL AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT ALSO KIND OF GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT MONEY TO GET CREATIVE OR GIVE US A UNIQUE THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE AND KIND OF SPUR GROWTH IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EXACTLY ON POINT TO SAY THAT I HOPE THIS MONEY RECOUPS OR PAYS FOR SOMETHING MORE TO SAY. I HOPE IT INSPIRES SOMEONE THAT MAY WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UNIQUE TO DENTON, TO THEN GIVE US SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE OR GIVE AN EXPERIENCE WE DON'T HAVE.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT THESE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE.

WELL, YOU LOOK AT ARLINGTON, LOEWS, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

IT'S BUT THEY BUT YOU ALSO HAVE IT FITS THEIR COMMUNITY WELL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE STADIUMS AROUND THERE.

BUT THEN ALSO THEY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND AND THAT IN THAT PROPERTY AS WELL.

SO JUST TRYING TO GET HOPEFULLY INSPIRE PEOPLE TO GIVE US SOMETHING UNIQUE TO DENTON THAT STANDS OUT AT AND THEN AND GIVES US SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M COMFORTABLE NOT DOING ANYTHING.

IT'S THERE'S NO TIMELINE TO ACT.

IT DOESN'T EXPIRE AND IT'S MONEY FROM THE STATE THAT WE'D GET THE PLUG IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE RIGHT PROJECT.

AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING AGAINST THAT PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

MATTER OF FACT, I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT, SO BROUGHT BACK BAD MEMORIES.

BUT YES, IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE GET IT RIGHT, ESPECIALLY THAT YOU ONLY GET IT.

IT'S A ONE TIME THING, RIGHT? AND SO THAT IT IS NOT SOMETHING I'M WORRIED ABOUT US REACHING INTO REPEATEDLY.

AND I THINK IT'LL GIVE IT THE RIGHT SCRUTINY SINCE SEEING AS HOW IT'S ONE AND DONE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM E ID 222266.

[E. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: 1). A work session to get an update on homelessness efforts after opening the new shelter, with a focus on safety and the downtown area.]

HE.

THERE WE GO. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MONICA BENAVIDES, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

TODAY I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THE CITY COUNCIL PENDING REQUEST FOR INFORMATION MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE TWO MINUTE PITCHES.

AS A REMINDER, UP TO SEVEN REQUESTS WILL BE REVIEWED PER MEETING.

ONE PER COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF WILL INTRODUCE EACH REQUEST.

THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT MADE THE REQUEST WILL HAVE UP TO 2 MINUTES TO DESCRIBE IN JUSTIFY THEIR REQUEST, AND THE REMAINING ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL THEN HAVE UP TO ONE MINUTE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INDICATE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE USE OF STAFF TIME.

STAFF WILL RESPOND TO ALL REQUESTS WHERE A CONSENSUS OF COUNSEL WAS ESTABLISHED.

I WON'T READ THE SLIDE VERBATIM, HOWEVER, THE AGENDA COMMITTEE WILL ASSIST IN SCHEDULING ITEMS RECEIVING CONSENSUS BASED UPON PRIORITY.

TODAY WE HAVE ONE TWO MINUTE PITCH.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY COUNCILOR DAVIS.

IT IS A WORK SESSION TO GET AN UPDATE ON HOMELESSNESS EFFORTS AFTER OPENING THE NEW SHELTER WITH A FOCUS ON SAFETY AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO, COUNCIL COUNCILOR DAVIS, WHEN YOU'RE READY AND BEFORE YOU START, LET ME LET ME DO THIS.

MISS CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON WHAT'S PENDING? SO THAT IS WITH RESPECT TO KIND OF THIS GENERAL TOPIC, WHAT'S PENDING SO THAT IF IF COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS WANTS TO AMEND HIS COMMENTS, HE'S ABLE TO OR SPEAK TO THOSE.

I JUST WANT YOU TO HAVE THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.

OKAY. AND I DID SHARE WITH IN A MEETING PREVIOUSLY.

BUT MARCH 21ST, WE HAVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF COMING TO TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN, AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED TO WORK WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND THEN ON MARCH THE SEVENTH, WE'RE COMING BACK.

POLICE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE COMING BACK TO TALK ABOUT AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING POLICIES, SOLICITATION.

SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE QUEUE THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD.

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SO THEY'LL COME BACK FOR COUNCIL REVIEW, DISCUSSION AND THEN SOME DIRECTION.

OKAY. THERE YOU GO. AFTER YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

SO WE ALL KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S ON THE THE CALENDAR AND WHAT'S HEADED OUR WAY.

THE FIRST THING I'LL SAY AS PART OF MY TWO MINUTE PITCH IS TO REPORT THAT THE COMMUNITY IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT OUR LOOP 288 SHELTER, VERY EXCITED THAT IT'S THERE AND DOING THE WORK THAT IT'S DOING AND OFFERING THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER WITH OUR DAILY BREAD THERE.

BUT WE WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE THE CONCERNS THAT FOLKS HAVE HAD, ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND ESPECIALLY FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE VICINITY OF ENCAMPMENTS. AND I THINK THAT AS WE GET THESE UPDATES IN THE COMING WEEKS, EXCUSE ME, A MONTH, THE SEVENTH AND THE 21ST OF MARCH, I WOULD LIKE A SPECIAL FOCUS ON NOT JUST THE COMPASSIONATE SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BECOME VERY, VERY GOOD AT, THAT WE OFFER COMPASSION TO OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

AND AS A FORMER COLLEAGUE OF OURS LIKE TO SAY, EVERYBODY'S GOT TO SLEEP SOMEWHERE.

WE HAVE DONE WE'VE TAKEN HUGE STEPS IN THE LAST FIVE, SEVEN YEARS OF ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY AND PROVIDING PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO BE PROVIDING SERVICES, WRAPAROUND SERVICES FOR FOLKS.

IT'S NOW TIME TO REMEMBER THAT NOT EVERY BIT OF COMPASSION CAN COME WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES, THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA FOR EMPLOYEES WALKING HOME AT NIGHT TO FEEL SAFE FOR PEOPLE, WALKING THEIR CARS AT NIGHT, TO FEEL SAFE FOR PEOPLE, PATRONIZING OUR BUSINESSES, TO FEEL SAFE, NOT ENCOUNTER HUMAN WASTE ON THE SIDEWALK, OR PEOPLE SLEEPING IN DOORWAYS.

AND FOR FOLKS WHO LIVE ADJACENT TO OUR CITY PARKS AND OTHER OPEN LAND, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE IN THEIR OWN HOMES AND THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOT HAVE FOLKS EITHER ACCOSTING THEM OR LIVING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE AND AN UNSANITARY ENCAMPMENT AND THAT KIND OF THING.

I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT BECAUSE THIS COMES ALONG WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN VERY, VERY GOOD AT AND THE COMPASSIONATE WRAPAROUND SERVICES WE'VE GOTTEN GOOD AT PROVIDING, I THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP FOLKS? AND ALONG THE WAY, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE DENTON A CLEANER, BETTER, HAPPIER, HEALTHIER PLACE? AND I PUT THAT AS A HIGH PRIORITY.

I THINK THAT'S IN DOVETAILS WITH THE TIMELINE WE'VE ALREADY GOT.

OK. COMMENTS.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I.

I WAS MORE SOLD BY THE THE ORIGINAL PITCH.

HONESTLY, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THAN THAN THE BACKUP FOR IT.

I'M GOING TO LEND SUPPORT BECAUSE I'M GENERALLY OF A MIND THAT REGARDLESS OF OF OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE NEED TO COME INTO IT WITH WITH DATA AND INFORMATION TO HAVE A FULL AND COMPLETE PICTURE.

I THINK THAT FULL AND COMPLETE PICTURE INCLUDES THE SUCCESS STORIES THAT THAT WILL BE DEMONSTRATIVE FROM THE NEW OADBY SHELTER.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY RENAMED IT AS OUR DAILY BREAD AGAIN.

RIGHT. BUT I KNOW I ONLY HAVE LIMITED TIME AS A MINUTE, SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT I LEND SUPPORT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FULL AND COMPLETE PICTURE OF OF ALL THE ISSUES INVOLVED WITH STAFF GOES FORWARD.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

THANK, MR. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR PITCH.

CONCUR FULLY SO 100%.

ABSOLUTELY. PUT ME DOWN AS A YES.

IN TERMS OF THE PRIORITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO GO NECESSARILY A HIGH PRIORITY YET.

I THINK WHENEVER IT IS FEASIBLE FOR STAFF TO FIT IT IN, BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO BASICALLY COMPILE AS MUCH DATA AS POSSIBLE FOR FOLKS WHO ARE CURRENTLY USING USING THE FACILITIES.

IF WHEN THAT HAPPENS, I ALSO WOULD NOT MIND HEARING FROM A MEMBER OF STAFF, PERHAPS MR. MCGEE AS WELL, TO COME OVER AND PERHAPS GIVE US SOME SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, IF APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE CONTROVERT MAYOR DALEY AND MY SUPPORT FOR THE STUDY.

AND I THINK THAT IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY.

WE'VE OPENED UP THE CENTER OF THE OTB.

AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ANYWAY, FROM GETTING FOLKS FROM DOWNTOWN AREA OR THE D.C.

TO AREA.

HOWEVER, THEY GET HERE TO DENTON TO GET THOSE FOLKS OVER THERE TO THE ODB.

SO I THINK IT'S THIS ALL GOES ALONG WITH IT.

SO I THINK IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. AND WHAT ELSE? COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YEAH, I'LL SUPPORT THAT TWO MINUTE PITCH.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE HIGH PRIORITY AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'VE JUST SPENT.

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AND I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A REALLY REAL TIME HANDLE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS, WHAT ARE THE WEAKNESSES, WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE'RE DOING VERY WELL.

AND I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF NOT ONLY FINANCIAL COMMITMENT BUT COMMIT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS VOLUNTEER HOURS AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A HANDLE ON HOW THINGS ARE PROGRESSING AT OUR AT OUR NEW FACILITY BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PROUD OF.

I CAN TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER CITY OUR SIZE THAT IS DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SUCCESS, WE GIVE IT THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO SUCCEED THAT WE CAN.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THAT ENDEAVOR.

OKAY. AND THEN I'LL JUST SAY, YES, I GIVE IT A HIGH PRIORITY AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE I'VE HAD THE SAME REQUEST.

THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE.

SO JUST TO BE CONSISTENT FOR WHAT I'VE ASKED AND I THINK THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF CAN DOVETAIL THAT INTO WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD ANYWAY.

SO IT SHOULD SHOULD FIT NICELY.

SO MAYBE IF I COULD JUST MAKE SURE I'VE GOT IT ALL DOWN.

I TOOK NOTES, BUT THIS WILL BE A PRETTY ENCOMPASSING FOLLOW UP.

WE'LL STILL CONTINUE TO COME AND DO THE AMBASSADOR, BUT AND ALSO DO THE PANHANDLING, AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLING.

BUT I THINK WHAT I ALSO HEARD WAS A SPECIAL FOCUS IN COMPARISON VERSUS COMPASSION VERSUS CONSEQUENCES.

WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? HOW DO WE MAKE IT CLEANER, BETTER, HAPPIER, HEALTHIER PLACE, MAKE IT SAFER, BUT ALSO TO LOOK AT THE CONCERNS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE ENCAMPMENT, ISSUES AROUND AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING, BUT ALSO IN PARKS.

AND THEN LOOK AT, I GUESS, AN UPDATE ON HOW WELL THINGS ARE GOING AT THE 288 FACILITY.

VOLUNTEER HOURS, STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, WHAT ARE WE FINDING SO WE CAN KEEP YOU INFORMED OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING? GOT IT ALL. OKAY.

OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'LL TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK.

LIT. EVERYONE GETS CALL IT.

YEAH, TEN MINUTE BREAK. LET EVERYONE GET SET, AND THEN SO WE'LL BE BACK.

ROUND NUMBERS. 430, LET'S SAY NO.

YES, 430.

WE'LL GET BACK STARTED. THANK YOU.

AND WELCOME BACK TO THIS MEETING DIDN'T CITY COUNCIL IT IS 433 AND WE'RE TO OUR LAST WORK SESSION ITEM JUST THOSE TRACKING ALONG.

WE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE A 630 START, BUT THAT'S JUST FOR PROCLAMATIONS AND ONE ITEM.

SO WE'LL GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT.

NEXT ITEM IS ITEM F ID 212807 RECEIVE UPDATE REGARDING DENTON COUNTY TRANSIT AUTHORITY FROM

[F. Receive an update regarding the Denton County Transit Authority (DCTA) from the City of Denton DCTA Board representative.]

AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS GO RIGHT INTO QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL GET THE SUMMARY FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION OUT SO QUESTIONS ASKED.

THEN THEY CAN SUMMARIZE AT THE END AND SPEAK TO QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, FOLLOW UPS FOR THE NEXT.

AND THIS IS QUARTERLY, RIGHT? SO SO NEXT QUARTER'S UPDATE OR OBVIOUSLY AT ANY POINT PEOPLE CAN CAN EMAIL IN AND GET THEIR QUESTIONS OR REGULARLY CONTACT CTA FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO THAT SO QUESTIONS.

ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? SEE NONE. MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS WAS NOT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT UP THAT MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS.

AND WE SAW SOME OF THE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT YOU PROVIDED ALREADY.

WHAT ARE WHAT IS HOW DOES D.C.

TO ANTICIPATE WITH THE THE CHANGE IN PASS FUNDING LEVELS AND STRUCTURE FOR THE FUNDING OR FOR THE PASSES FOR NONPROFITS AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE DOING SOCIAL SUPPORT SERVICES? I PRESUME THAT MEANS OTHER GOVERNMENT BODIES AS WELL.

WHAT IS HOW DOES HOW DOES DSTA WANT? FOLKS TO ENGAGE IN THAT MECHANISM, TO ENGAGE WITH THE WITH THE SOCIAL SERVICE OR TO PROVIDE PASSES TO THE SOCIAL SERVICE IS THEIR PREFERRED MECHANISM SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REDESIGNING OUR ENTIRE PASS AND FARE STRUCTURE.

NEW FARES WENT INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1ST.

THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION AS WELL AND.

WE HAVE VARIOUS LEVELS OF OF DISCOUNTS.

SO SENIORS, INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, STUDENTS ALL GET DISCOUNTED RATES.

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WE CERTAINLY COULD EXPAND THE NUMBER OF PASSES THAT WE PROVIDE TO SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY COVER MORE THAN 50% OF THE COST OF THOSE.

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT EITHER OF THOSE MOVES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A BOARD DECISION.

CAN I ASK BRITNEY FARR ACTUALLY TO COME UP AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE PASS PASS STRUCTURES AND FARE STRUCTURE? BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN WORKING A LOT ON THIS LATELY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYORS.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PRETTY FAR.

I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF ENGAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION FOR DENTON COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.

JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR DISCOUNT FARE PASS STRUCTURE.

WITH THE NEW CHANGES THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED ON JANUARY ONE, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MECHANISMS THAT PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE TO GET PASSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON GO ZONE. AS OUR BOARD MEMBER MCGUIRE ALLUDED TO, WE DO HAVE DISCOUNT PROGRAMS FOR REDUCED FARE ELIGIBLE POPULATIONS, FOLKS THAT HAVE DISABILITIES THAT AREN'T CERTIFIED FOR ADA, PARATRANSIT RIDERS THAT ARE OVER THE AGE OF 65, STUDENTS BETWEEN THE AGE OF FIVE AND 18, AS WELL AS STUDENTS UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE WHO RIDE FOR FREE TO OBTAIN THOSE GOES ON ELIGIBLE PASSES.

IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF A SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO MARY WORTHINGTON, WHO IS OUR MANAGER OF COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS AT CTA.

SHE'S THE ONE THAT MANAGES THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY PASS AS WELL AS OUR EMPLOYER PASS, WHICH ALSO GETS DISCOUNTED TICKETS ON A SLIDING SCALE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK AT A GIVEN COMPANY.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN OBTAINING DISCOUNT PASSES FROM A SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY OR FROM A CORPORATE RIDER PERSPECTIVE, OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPARTMENT IS THE BEST WAY TO OBTAIN THOSE PASSES.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO APPLY FOR A REDUCED FARE ELIGIBLE BADGE IF YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE 65 OR UP OR YOUR NON ADA DISABLED.

THERE'S AN APPLICATION AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN EITHER SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY OR IF YOU CALL IN TO CUSTOMER SUPPORT, THEY'LL HELP YOU FILL OUT THAT APPLICATION AS WELL.

IT'LL GIVE YOU A BADGE THAT SHOWS THAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR REDUCED FARE AND YOU CAN NOW PURCHASE REDUCED FARE.

SHOWING THAT BADGE.

WE DON'T HAVE A WE ELIMINATED THE SEPARATE REDUCED FARE PASSES JUST TO AVOID CONFUSION.

IT'S A POINT OF SALE ISSUE.

THE BUS OPERATOR DOESN'T CARE HOW MUCH YOU PAID FOR THE PAST.

THEY JUST CARE THAT YOU HAVE A PASS.

BUT IF YOU GO THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPARTMENT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SET YOU UP WITH THOSE NONPROFIT PASSES AT THE DISCOUNTED PRICE.

HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

I THINK IT DOES.

BUT. AND IF NOT, I'LL CONTACT WITH MISS WORTHINGTON.

I GUESS JUST FOR CONTEXT, IT WAS MORE IN THE I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE FROM FROM MY CONSTITUENTS OF HOW CAN I HOW CAN WE AS A COMMUNITY, NOT NECESSARILY INDIVIDUALS, BUT COULD BE INDIVIDUALS, MAKE MORE FREE TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE FOR SPECIFIC SERVICES OR IN SPECIFIC POINT TO POINT DESTINATIONS.

SO TO FACILITATE VARIOUS COMMUNITY EFFORTS, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ME ABOUT THAT.

AND SO FAR I'VE BEEN TELLING THEM, WELL, CONTACT THE SOCIAL SERVICES DIRECTLY AND GET FUNDING FOR PASSES.

BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A COMMON QUESTION I GET IS HOW DO WE MAKE MORE OF THESE SERVICES AVAILABLE AT NO COST WHERE IT THEREFORE IS EASY? YOU'RE NOT WORRIED. YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT $0.75 OR A DOLLAR 50 OR WHATEVER.

YOU'RE JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHICHEVER SERVICE IS APPROPRIATE.

SO THAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF THAT ONE QUESTION.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD THAT I DIDN'T SEE IS IN WE HAD SOME OF THE ROUTE MAPS AND I LOVE THAT THERE WERE DIFFERENT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DIFFERENT ROUTE MAPS AND DIFFERENT FARE STRUCTURES AND DIFFERENT ZONES.

AND WE ALLUDED TO SORT OF THE HOW HOW, HOW MUCH RIDERSHIP HAD TO GO IN TO A CERTAIN DESTINATION ROUTE TO TO TO SORT OF BALANCE APPLES TO APPLES.

AND MY QUESTION THERE IS THOSE ARE FOR THE EXISTING ROUTES, HOW HOW MUCH OF THE COST STRUCTURE AND THE FARE BALANCE IS MORE OF A DESTINATION PATH ISSUE.

THE ROUTES AREN'T GOING WHERE THE CUSTOMERS WANT NECESSARILY, EVEN IN THE CASE OF GO ZONE, WHERE IT IS AN OPEN ROUTING SORT OF STRUCTURE BECAUSE THERE THERE'S THERE'S LIMITS ON THE ZONES. IF YOU CAN'T GET FROM A TO B, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET RIDERSHIP.

SO ANY VEHICLE OF ANY MECHANISM.

SO SO HOW MUCH OF THAT IS IN THE.

THE ESTIMATES, I GUESS.

AND SO, YEAH, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE.

YEAH. SO I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THAT IN THE PRESENTATION.

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BUT LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE.

PERHAPS I SHOULD JUST GIVE THE PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN I HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS IF HE'S STRUGGLING WITH SOME.

NO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT IS, IS SYSTEM NETWORK DESIGN.

WE HAVE OVER A YEAR NOW OF DATA FROM GOES ON THAT IS DEMONSTRATING WHERE THE HIGHEST DEMAND FOR RIDERSHIP IS.

THAT AREA WE IS MORE OR LESS WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED BEFORE WE COLLECTED THIS DATA.

BUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT RIDERSHIP IN THAT PARTICULAR ZONE, WHICH HOPEFULLY I'LL GET TO ADDRESS, IS SO HIGH, DEMAND IS SO HIGH THAT THE GO ZONE SYSTEM REALLY CANNOT SUPPORT IT.

BUT WHAT GOES ON CAN DO IS PROVIDE DATA ABOUT WHERE IT IS THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET TO.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE REST OF COUNCIL TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THINKING IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUAL ROUTES, WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL ROUTE IS MEETING THE NEEDS OF RIDERS, TRANSIT RIDERS, PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY USE TRANSIT TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO GENERALLY AREN'T USING JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL ROUTE.

THERE ARE TRANSFERS.

AND SO I WOULD STRESS THAT THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AT CTA IS STEPPING WAY, WAY BACK, TAKING A BIG, BIG PICTURE LOOK AT THE OVERALL NETWORK, THE AND THE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE OVERALL NETWORK, WHICH WILL AT SOME POINT PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, RESULT IN A COMPLETE REDESIGN OF THE BUS NETWORK.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS.

YEAH, I'M. I THINK THAT WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS, IS AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS IS THE THE COST STRUCTURE IS IS BASED ON WHAT'S WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IN IS IN EXISTENCE NOW IN EXTENT NOW.

BUT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TO POTENTIALLY GET DESTINATION INFORMATION TO JUDGE IN THE FUTURE.

BETTER BETTER CONNECTIVITY.

YEAH, EXACTLY. BETTER NETWORK DESIGN.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROCESS THAT'S UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, WHICH I'M HOPING TO SHARE WITH YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR WATTS AND THEN COUNCILOR DAVIS.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I APPRECIATED OUR REPRESENTATIVE SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T THINK OF THIS IN TERMS OF SPECIFIC ROUTES, BECAUSE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION STARTED AND THERE WAS AN ADVOCACY TO KEEP SPECIFIC ROUTES.

SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE MOVED BEYOND THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF DISCUSSION.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, AND IT'S PROBABLY MORE POLICY RELATED, I SEE THE THE COST ALLOCATIONS.

ONE THING IS I SEE NO DATA ON THE TRAIN IN THIS PRESENTATION.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY THAT IS.

I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY THE THE TRAIN RIDERSHIP IS PROBABLY EMBEDDED IN.

YEAH, I INCLUDED ALL RIDERSHIP DATA IS AVAILABLE ON A DASHBOARD AND HISTORICAL RIDERSHIP DATA IS AVAILABLE ON PAGE. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I SUBMITTED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

BUT SO I GUESS I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS WE'VE GOT CTA RIDERSHIP, BUS RIDERSHIP.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT SLIDE, WHAT IS THIS, 14 OF 28? AND I ASKED FOR IT TO BE BROKEN OUT, BUT IT WASN'T.

THAT'S FINE. I CAN ASK THESE QUESTIONS NOW.

SO WE SHOW 2.2 MILLION RIDERS ON THE CTA, BUT THAT'S INCLUDING THE UNDER BUS CONTRACT SYSTEM, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT SLIDE 14 WAS GOING TO BE PART OF A DISCUSSION ON RIDERSHIP GOAL SETTING.

IT'S NOT ABOUT SPECIFIC MODES.

BUT BUT IS THIS ACCURATE DATA? SO I DO NEED.

MAY I PLEASE SHARE THE PRESENTATION, MAYOR? I HAVE A CORRECTION TO THE DATA THAT IS ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WATTS IS LOOKING AT, AND I HAVE THE CORRECTED DATA QUEUED UP ON THE COMPUTER.

SURE. I MEAN, YOU CAN PULL UP WHATEVER WHATEVER DEMONSTRATIVE IS.

YOU NEED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BY ALL MEANS THAT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO PROHIBITION AGAINST THAT.

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THAT'S THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN PULL UP WHATEVER DEMONSTRATIVE AID YOU NEED AT ANY POINT.

WE ALL HAVE THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS EMAILED OUT TO US.

HE CAN LOOK AT IT, YOU CAN REFERENCE IT, YOU CAN PULL IT UP, WHATEVER'S EASIEST FOR YOU, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

BUT WE ALL HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

WELL, THEN I WILL. I WILL TRUST THAT THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER WATTS, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE VERSION THAT WAS EMAILED TO YOU, THEN YES, YOU ARE LOOKING AT ACCURATE DATA.

YEP. OKAY.

SO THAT IS.

SO YOU SAID YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU HAD A SLIDE THAT CORRECTS THIS DATA.

SO YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO BECAUSE I MADE AN ERROR WHEN I EMAILED THIS TO CITY STAFF.

SOME OF THE YEARS WERE FISCAL YEAR NUMBERS AND SOME OF THEM WERE CALENDAR YEAR NUMBERS.

I WENT BACK AND CORRECTED THEM TO ALL BE FISCAL YEAR NUMBERS.

OKAY. WELL, NO, I HAVE NOT PULLED THAT UP IF THAT WAS A LINK THAT WAS SENT TO ME.

SO I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT YET.

BUT OKAY. SO AND COUNCILMAN WANTS ROSA SENT THAT.

AND IF YOU NEED A TIME TO LOOK AT THAT, BY ALL MEANS, COUNCILMAN DAVIS IS IN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NO, NO, I'M GOOD.

I GUESS THE THRUST OF MY QUESTION AND IT'S NOT EVEN A QUESTION, IT'S JUST A COMMENT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE CTA RIDERSHIP TOTALS AS FAR AS THIS IS THIS IS DOES NOT OC ONE QUESTION WHETHER THIS IS THE ACCURATE, THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION.

DOES THE DC CTA RIDERSHIP TOTALS WHICH ARE IN PARENTHESES GPT, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE A TRAIN RIDERSHIP? YES. OKAY.

SO IF I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE, WHETHER IT'S CORRECT OR NOT, JUST SO THAT I'LL UNDERSTAND, JUST SLIDE 14 OF 28 AND THE PRESENTATION THAT IS ON THE AGENDA ITEM WHERE IT SAYS 2.2 MILLION RIDERSHIP IN 2022, THAT'S ALL INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE MODALITIES.

I CORRECTED THAT FISCAL YEAR 2022 RIDERSHIP AS AS REPORTED IN OUR FY 23 BUDGET IS 1.97 MILLION ACROSS ALL MODES.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION REALLY COMES TO AND I KNOW THAT THE BOARD IS DISCUSSING THIS AND AND YOU ALLUDED TO IT AND I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM ALLUDED TO IT TO SOME DEGREE.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT I'M GOING TO LOOK AT SLIDE 21 OF 28, IT'S THE DENTON CONNECT ROUTE SEVEN.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, NUMBER ONE, THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS DATA IS, IS TELLING ME.

SO NOW AS THIS SLIDE, HAS THIS SLIDE BEEN UPDATED ON THE.

YEAH. SO ON THE ON THE IT SAYS REVISED ON IT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHATEVER THIS IS CALLED ON OUR IPADS, THAT WHATEVER THAT PROGRAM IS, IT SAYS REVISED.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST GOING TO IF IT'S INCORRECT AND I'VE JUST PULLED IT UP, WHATEVER, IT'S NOT INCORRECT.

BUT I DID COME WITH OCTOBER'S DATA IF YOU'D LIKE IT.

OKAY, GOOD. YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT, SO THEN SO WHAT I'M READING HERE AND JUST I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY FOR MY PURPOSES, BUT I THINK FOR ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO WHEN IT SAYS TOTAL COMPLETED, THE DENTON GOES ON TRIPS, THAT MEANS JUST GOES ON TRIPS FROM AUGUST 22ND TO SEPTEMBER 22ND.

IS THAT JUST ALONG THAT CONNECT? I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF WHAT DO WE USE IN AS FAR AS IS IT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MILEAGE OR SO TOTAL? THAT TOTAL ROUTE, TOTAL NUMBER OF COMPLETED DENTON TO DENTON GOES ON TRIPS IS IN AUGUST OF 2022.

THERE WERE 30,528 COMPLETED GOES ON TRIPS WITHIN THE DENTON ZONE IN SEPTEMBER 2020.

THAT IS NOT IT DOES NOT COVER THE ENTIRE CITY LIMITS, BUT THE ENTIRE DENTON ZONE.

NO, NO. THE DENTON ZONE. YEAH.

WHEREVER THE GOES ZONE IS IS IS OPERATING IN THE CITY.

YES. OKAY. GRAND TOTAL TRIP ORIGINS AND ROUTE SEVEN.

THOSE ARE THE TRIPS IN ROUTE SEVEN FOR THE ROUTE.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

TOTAL TRIP ORIGINS AND DESTINATION.

SO NOW THE TOTAL ORIGIN DESTINATION PAIRS IN ROUTE SEVEN SERVICE AREA.

IS THAT INDICATING? BOTH GO ZONE AND FIXED ROUTE RIDERSHIP.

WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER REPRESENT? I REALLY I'M HAPPY TO EXPLAIN ALL OF THIS DATA PIECE BY PIECE, BUT I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED THAT WILL EXPLAIN ALL OF. NO, NO, I'M JUST TRYING.

NO, I UNDERSTAND. AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR NECESSARILY.

I SEE THE DATA, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THAT PARTICULAR.

OKAY, SO I WILL SKIP AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THAT PART.

SO AN ORIGIN TO DESTINATION PAIR IS AN ORIGIN AND A DESTINATION THAT ARE PART OF ONE TRIP THAT ARE BOTH WITHIN THE ROUTE SEVEN SERVICE AREA.

SO WITHIN. APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER MILE FROM ROUTE SEVEN.

OKAY. SO YOU BASICALLY GEOFENCE ROUTE SEVEN AND THEN HE GOES ON TRIP THAT IS AN ORIGINATION OR DESTINATION WITHIN THAT IS PART OF THIS DATA.

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BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU TOOK THOSE TRIPS AND YOU DID.

AND A MEASUREMENT OF A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THE ROUTE TO DETERMINE WHAT GOES ON TRIPS WERE WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR THOSE PARTICULAR PARAMETERS. CORRECT? BECAUSE THAT'S MY QUESTION ABOUT THE GEOFENCING.

I MEAN, WE KNEW FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT WHEN THIS STARTED, WE WOULD HAVE A LARGE DEMAND OF STUDENTS RIDING IT.

SO FOR ME, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, POLICY QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR EITHER YOU OR OR FOR THE CEO IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THESE? WHAT ARE THEY CALLED PAIRS, THESE DESTINATION PAIRS, BOTH IN ROUTE SEVEN, SIX AND MAYBE EVEN IN THREE, ANY OF THE FIXED ROUTES.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S TAKING UP A LOT OF THE CAPACITY.

AND WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE GOALS MOVING FORWARD TO TRY AND.

PREVENT THAT OR TO MITIGATE IT TO WHERE IT FREES UP SOME MORE OF THAT CAPACITY FOR EITHER ONE, FOR EITHER THE FIXED ROUTE OR THE THE GO ZONE SYSTEM. THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING QUESTION, AND I'M GOING TO PULL SOMETHING UP TO HELP ME ADDRESS THAT.

SO. SO THAT BRINGS US TO OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT INTERMEDIATE AND LONG RANGE SERVICE PLANNING AND MODAL OPTIMIZATION.

THE CTA BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL BE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT INTERMEDIATE SERVICE PLANNING IN JULY OF 2023.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, AND AS COUNCILMEMBER WATTS WAS JUST ALLUDING TO, THERE IS IS A CAP ON HOW MANY FOLKS WE CAN CARRY.

AND THERE IS A GROWING PORTION OF FOLKS WHO ARE REQUESTING RIDES WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO GET ONE.

UTILIZATION BY MONTH ON GO ZONE AVERAGED IN OCTOBER, ABOUT 3.7 RIDES PER REVENUE HOUR, WHICH IS QUITE GOOD.

QUALITY OF SERVICE BY MONTH HAS WENT DOWN OVER THE I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME IMPROVED OVER THE SUMMER AND HAS GONE BACK UP IMPROVED PARDON ME, GOTTEN WORSE WHEN STUDENTS CAME BACK TO TOWN.

SO DENTON CONNECT TO ROUTE SEVEN.

IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, THERE WERE 3.5% OF ALL GO ZONE RIDES WERE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF ROUTE SEVEN AND COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN REPLACED BY ROUTE SEVEN IN SEPTEMBER OF 22.

AND I'M JUST USING SEPTEMBER NUMBERS FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY.

IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, 1% OF ALL GO ZONE TRIPS WERE WITHIN THE ROUTE SIX LOAD SHED, I BELIEVE, OR RIDE SHED WAS AT LOAD SHED OR RIDE SHED TRAVEL SHED.

THERE WE GO. THERE'S THE PHRASE TRAVEL SHED WITHIN THE ROUTE.

SIX TRAVEL SHED, LESS THAN 1% WERE ALONG THE ROUTE THREE TRAVEL SHED, ABOUT 3.5% IN THE DISCOVERY PARK TRAVEL SHED AND ABOUT 6.3% IN THE COLORADO EXPRESS TRAVEL SHED.

SO THAT'S WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUAL ROUTES.

WHEN WE COMBINE THOSE FIVE ROUTES AND CONNECT ROUTES THREE, SIX AND SEVEN, PLUS COLORADO EXPRESS AND DISCOVERY PARK IN SEPTEMBER, 32% OF ALL GO ZONE TRIPS WERE WITHIN THAT CORE OF THE NETWORK.

NOW, NOTE THAT THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BUS NETWORK.

THERE ARE A LOT OF AND ROUTES THAT ARE SHORT THAT REALLY WOULDN'T BE MAKE SENSE TO USE AS PART OF THESE CALCULATIONS BUT SO COUNTS.

I'M SORRY, MISS MCGUIRE.

QUESTION SO ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, THE ONE THAT YOU'RE SHOWING, IF WE COULD GO BACK, YOU DON'T NEED IT, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT OF THOSE BUT YOU'RE INCLUDING THE DISCOVERY PARK AND I FORGOT WHAT THE OTHER ONE WAS.

LET ME. COLORADO EXPRESS ARE THOSE U.A.

ROUTES? YES.

ARE THOSE ARE THOSE FIXED RIGHT CONNECT CONNECT BUSSES OR ARE THOSE U.A.

BUSSES? THERE'S NOT A SUBSTANTIVE DIFFERENCE THERE.

CTA ROUTES.

THEY HAVE THE NAME U.A.

ON THEM. BUT THEY'RE OPEN TO THOSE RULES.

PART OF THE UNDER CONTRACT, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'D SAY.

YES, THEY HAVE TO BE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT THE FIXTURE OUTS THAT THAT THAT ARE REMAINING.

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AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT GRAPH, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WHEN THE SEMESTER STARTS IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

SO WHEN I HEAR THAT.

AND THIS IS A CHALLENGE.

SO I COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR TRYING TO TAKE THIS UP BECAUSE THIS THERE'S NOT AN EASY FIX HERE.

BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY WAS, YES, THERE'S THOSE KIND OF DUAL ROUTES THAT COULD EASILY BE MOVED TO A FIXED ROUTE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH THAT NECESSARILY ASSUMPTION, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE'S GETTING ON A GO ZONE TO GO FROM POINT TO POINT IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, ARE THEY GOING TO BE JUST AS WILLING TO GET ON A BUS AND TAKE THREE OR FOUR STOPS OR FIVE STOPS TO GET WHERE THEY'RE GOING? WELL, THAT'S THE UNANSWERABLE QUESTION.

THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT CAN'T BE ANSWERED.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE CHARGED WITH.

SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.

WE ALWAYS KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN, THAT THE STUDENTS WOULD UTILIZE IT AS THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO.

IT'S PART OF THE CTA SYSTEM.

AND THEN NOW IT'S HOW DO WE TWEAK THAT? SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO ONE OTHER THING, TWO OTHER THINGS, AND I'M GOING TO I ACTUALLY DIDN'T FINISH ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YES, THANK YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT SUPPLY AND DEMAND SLIDE.

THERE IT IS. WHICH QUESTION ARE YOU ANSWERING? SO I'M STILL TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT GEOFENCING.

I HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THAT YET.

SO SO SOMETHING THAT THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT.

SO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, TOTAL REQUESTS FOR GO ZONE RIDES WAS 86,832.

AND IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, ONLY 69,037 GO ZONE RIDES WERE COMPLETED.

SO IN SEPTEMBER 2022, THERE WERE 17,795 UNCOMPLETED REQUESTS FOR GO ZONE.

AND AS AS COUNCIL MEMBER WATTS POINTED OUT, WE CAN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO GET A RIDE ON GO ZONE.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THEM MIGHT HAVE TAKEN FIXED ROUTES, SOME OF THEM MIGHT POSSIBLE, SOME OF THEM MIGHT HAVE WALKED OR POSSIBLY EVEN GOTTEN STRANDED.

BUT THERE WERE 12,996 COMPLETED GOES ON RIDES THAT HAD BOTH AN ORIGIN AND A DESTINATION WITHIN THE FIXED ROUTE SERVICE AREA SEEN HERE IN RED, AND WOULD THEREFORE HAVE BEEN MORE EFFICIENTLY SERVED BY A FIXED ROUTE.

IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF SIMPLICITY, WE'RE GOING TO IMAGINE THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE 12,996 GO ZONE RIDES HAD BEEN TAKEN ON A FIXED ROUTE. AND I'M NOT DISTINGUISHING HERE BETWEEN CONNECT AND UNDER ROUTES.

IF ALL 12,996 OF THOSE GO ZONE RIDES HAD BEEN TAKEN ON A FIXED ROUTE, INSTEAD THAT COULD HAVE FREED UP ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR GOES ON VEHICLES TO CARRY RIDERS FOR WHOM FIXED ROUTE WASN'T AN OPTION.

AND WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT THE NUMBER OF UNCOMPLETED GO ZONE RISE FROM 17,000 DOWN TO 4799.

MAGUIRE I'M SORRY, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN YOU AND RT ROUTES AND DIDN'T CONNECT ROUTES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE THAT YOU JUST PRESENTED.

THE SLIDE.

WHERE IS IT? THE SLIDE NUMBER 26, WHICH IS THE UNIVERSITY, COLORADO EXPRESS AND THE UNT DISCOVERY PARK.

YOU'VE GOT 4000 IN SEPTEMBER COMPARED TO ONLY 2000 ON THE DENTON, QUOTE UNQUOTE, ROUTES.

YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE STUDENTS AND THE STUDENT ROUTES.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE, BUT I'M GOING TO MOVE ON FROM THAT.

YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'VE HAD A GENTLEMAN CALL ME A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I'VE ADVOCATED FOR THIS WITH THIS REPRESENTATIVE AND WITH WITH THE BOARD BEFORE.

CERTAINLY, IF COMMUNICATED IT, THAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS HANDICAPPED AND HE'S TRIED TO GET A RIDE BEFORE AND IT'S BEEN UNAVAILABLE, HE'S CALLED ME TWICE.

BUT FRANKLY, THE SECOND TIME HE WAS ABLE TO SECURE ONE.

AND SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK, HAVE YOU ALL THOUGHT ABOUT AND I'VE MADE THIS PITCH BEFORE.

IT'S CRAZY TO COMPARE IT TO A CONSTRUCTION SITE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING SOMETIMES YOU LIKE AND COMPANIES HAVE WHAT THEY CALL HOTSHOT TRUCKS, THEIR ONLY MISSION IS TO GET TO A JOB SITE, WHAT SOMEONE IS NEEDING CRITICALLY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER DAY OR TWO DELIVERY.

AND SO IS THERE A WAY TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF PILOT PROGRAM OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE RESERVED, ESPECIALLY FOR HANDICAPPED PEOPLE? AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE CERTIFICATION OF THE HANDICAPPED, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW DSTA WORKS WITH THAT.

BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE CERTIFIED TO THAT, THAT IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO GET A RIDE BECAUSE IT'S UNAVAILABLE ON THEIR NORMAL VEHICLES, THERE'S SOME KIND OF FLEET, ONE OR TWO OR WHATEVER THAT'S, THAT'S DRIVING AROUND THE CITY THAT THEIR SPECIFIC JOB IS TO ADDRESS SITUATIONS LIKE THAT AND

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IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE? I'M GOING TO GIVE A TWO PART RESPONSE.

I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO GIVE BOTH PARTS.

I THINK THAT OUR FIRST PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE MOVING MORE PEOPLE AND REDUCING SEAT UNAVAILABILITY.

THE FACT THAT WE HAD 22% SEAT UNAVAILABILITY IN SEPTEMBER IS UNACCEPTABLE.

THERE WERE 12,996 TIMES THAT MIGHT NOT BE INDIVIDUALS, BUT THERE WERE 12,996 TIMES THAT A RIDER TRIED TO GET SERVICE WITH THE CTA AND WAS TURNED AWAY.

OUR FIRST PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE BRINGING THAT NUMBER DOWN.

WE CAN IF WE CAN MOVE THE PEOPLE IN WHO ARE TAKING GO ZONE WITHIN THE RED ZONE ON PAGE 26 EXCUSE ME ON SLIDE 26. IF WE CAN GET THOSE RIDES ONTO GO ZONE, WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT THE NUMBER OF REJECTED RIDES DOWN TO 4799.

HOWEVER, EVEN 4799 IS STILL A HIGH NUMBER AND AN UNACCEPTABLY HIGH NUMBER AND A HOT SHOT SERVICE LIKE YOU'RE DESCRIBING WOULD SERVE TO ADDRESS THOSE SITUATIONS THAT ARE INEVITABLY GOING TO HAPPEN.

EVEN IF WE WE MAKE SERVICE CHANGES.

NO. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT TO MOVE MORE PEOPLE OR TO GET MORE PEOPLE, I TOTALLY GET IT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HANDICAPPED.

ALL RIGHT? THAT OUR NEIGHBOR THAT CAN GET SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THEY'RE ON ONE OF THESE THESE VEHICLES THAT I THINK HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A WHEELCHAIR. I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST A SPECIALLY FITTED VAN, BUT THAT IF THEY'RE STRANDED AND THEY ARE UNABLE TO WALK, THEY AREN'T ABLE TO GET TO A BUS ROUTE. I THINK THAT YOU I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE GOAL.

BUT THAT IS A VERY HIGH ALTITUDE GOAL THAT TAKES A LOT OF POLICY DECISIONS IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT TO TRY TO GET THAT NUMBER DOWN.

I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE MOBILITY CHALLENGED.

YES. I HAVE HEARD.

I SAID YES. YES, SIR.

ANECDOTALLY, THAT EVEN SOME OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE HAVE HAD TO PROVIDE SOME RIDES.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL THING.

YOU KNOW, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO THAT COULD PROBABLY BE IMPLEMENTED FAIRLY QUICKLY, AT LEAST TO PROVIDE SOMEBODY THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD A GENTLEMAN COME BEFORE US AND TALK TO US AT COUNCIL BEFORE SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS AGO ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS.

SO I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT IF WE DO HAVE TO GET THOSE UNAVAILABLE RIDES DOWN.

BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.

THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME VERY CREATIVE THINKING BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SAYING EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET ON A BUS AND RIDE IT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT LET'S PUT MORE CARS ON THE STREET.

IT'S ABOUT HOW DO YOU FIND THAT THAT MIX AND PROVIDE THE RIGHT POLICIES AND PRICING AND ROUTES AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT THAT DO THAT? BECAUSE, LOOK, WE'VE GOT A CITY NOW THAT'S USED TO EITHER THEY CAN'T GET A SEAT OR IF THEY DO GET A SEAT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER AS IF THEY'RE DRIVING THEIR OWN CAR. POINT TO POINT.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THAT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS I HAVE.

BUT I THINK THIS CONVERSATION SHOWS THE IMPORTANCE THAT I TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, A STRATEGIC DISCUSSION. BE SURE AND GET THAT MOVING FORWARD ON WHAT DO WE WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR FOR OUR CITY WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER CITIES, JUST LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN OURS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE, COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S COMING. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I ALMOST STARTED TO SEND YOU AN EMAIL, BUT I FIGURE YOU KNOW WHY.

I PUT IN AN EMAIL PRIVATELY, WHICH YOU REALLY OUGHT TO SAY PUBLICLY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF DATA THAT IS IN THIS PRESENTATION, AND I APPRECIATE THE THE UPDATES THAT HAVE COME IN, BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD RIGHT UP FRONT THAT IT HAD SOME SOME HOLES THAT NEED TO BE FILLED WITH UP TO DATE DATA.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW MUCH INFORMATION WE HAVE TO WORK WITH BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE VERY KEYED INTO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US ABOUT TODAY AND WHAT'S IN THE BACKUPS IN THE DATA.

THE QUESTION I HAVE, I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT FAREBOX RECEIPTS.

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BUT I CONSIDER MYSELF A FAIRLY INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUAL, AND I'VE YET TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE CHARGING FOR THE BUS AND WHY WE'RE CHARGING FOR THE TRAIN WHEN WE ARE GOING THROUGH REALLY, REALLY LAUDABLE EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GIVING OUT ALL THESE DISCOUNT PASSES AND STUFF.

BUT WHY? WHY? LIKE WHY PUT OURSELVES THROUGH THE THE TROUBLE OF CREATING THESE WHOLE SYSTEMS TO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $0.50 FROM A GUY WHO DOESN'T HAVE $0.50, WHO DOESN'T HAVE TWO QUARTERS TO RUB TOGETHER.

AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS GOING TO THE SYSTEM THAT IS REALLY SURE IT'S THE ACTOR'S MONEY BECAUSE IT'S THE COMPTROLLER SENDS IT TO DC INSTEAD OF US, BUT IT'S OUR SALES TAX MONEY, WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND I ARE PROBABLY IN AGREEMENT ON THIS ON A PHILOSOPHICAL LEVEL.

HAVE YOU GAINED ANY INSIGHT DURING YOUR TIME ON THE DC BOARD ABOUT WHY IT IS? AND IF WE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON MY SOAPBOX.

IF WE CONTINUE CHARGING, THEN WE'RE ONLY GOING TO EVER HAVE THE SYSTEM THAT IS DESIGNED AROUND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAST ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

IF WE EVER WANT TO HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE A MOM GO INTO THE LIBRARY WHERE THEIR KIDS FOR STORYTIME GETS ON A BUS OR GOES ON TO GET THERE, OR SOMEBODY GOING SHOPPING DOWNTOWN, GETS ON A BUS OR GOES ON TO GET THEIR.

I MEAN, CHARGING FOR IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY KIND OF SENSE TO ME THAT WE WOULD CHARGE PENNIES WHEN WE'RE ALREADY PAYING MILLIONS.

SO ANYWAY, ANY INSIGHT? THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING QUESTION.

SO TO TO THAT POINT.

FOR FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, PROJECTED REVENUES ARE ABOUT 70.7 MILLION AND PASSENGER REVENUES ARE ONLY ABOUT 1.8 MILLION OF THAT PASSENGER REVENUES.

FAREBOX REVENUES ARE A VERY SMALL PORTION OF TA'S BUDGET IN I BELIEVE IT WAS JUNE OF 2022.

THE BOARD DID DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING FOR FREE.

IT WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS FOR DISCUSSION.

I GAVE DIRECTION FOR IT.

THE REST OF THE BOARD DID NOT.

I THINK THAT THE SENSE WAS GOING FOR FREE.

SOUNDS VERY EASY.

SOMETIMES THERE ARE UNFORESEEN CONSEQUENCES THAT OTHER OTHER AGENCIES HAVE EXPERIENCED WHEN GOING FOR FREE. INCREASES IN RIDERSHIP AREN'T QUITE AS HIGH AS ONE MIGHT EXPECT WHEN WHEN AGENCIES TEND TO GO FOR FREE.

AND SO THE BOARD DIDN'T GIVE DIRECTION FOR THAT AT THAT TIME.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE SAY THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE WILLING TO CONSIDER IT, BUT IT WAS CONSIDERED IN JUNE OF 2022 AND THE DECISION WAS TO CONTINUE CHARGING.

NOW, I WILL SAY THAT A DOLLAR 51 WAY FARE IS IS IT'S THE LOWEST IT'S THE LOWEST FARE IN THE REGION.

I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE LOWEST FARES IN THE REGION.

I THINK THAT'S VERY GOOD.

I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE US NOT TO PUT TOO MUCH PRESSURE ON YOU ALL, BUT JUST HANDING OUT PASSES LIKE CANDY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US JUST HANDING OUT FREE TICKETS IS SINCE IT'S NOT REALLY FEASIBLE FOR US TO GO FOR FREE AT THIS TIME.

I THINK THAT THAT THAT GIVING OUT A LOT OF DISCOUNTED AND FREE TICKETS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SHORT TERM SOLUTION TO THE ISSUE.

BUT I'M I CAN I REMAIN OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.

BY ALL MEANS. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE ALREADY DO GIVE OUT PASSES PRETTY WITH SOME.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND I APPRECIATE POINT, POINT TAKEN.

BUT I MEAN, THE THE EXCEPTIONS ARE GOBBLING UP THE RULE, RIGHT? WE'RE WE'RE DISCOUNTING OR HANDING OUT PASSES.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FOLKS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO USE THE BUS ON THEIR OWN OR TO USE THE GOODS ON THEIR OWN.

BUT CAN YOU GIVE US.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY AT A DISADVANTAGE, BUT CAN YOU GIVE US ANY IDEA OF SOME OF THESE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES? I MEAN, I COULD IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY CONCERN ABOUT PEOPLE, ENTITIES WE CONTRACT WITH NOT BEING AS WILLING TO PAY FOR A CONTRACT IF EVERYBODY GETS IT FOR FREE.

AND WHY DON'T WE JUST LET LET THE SYSTEM FIGURE ITS OWN SELF OUT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR SOMETHING ANYBODY ELSE GETS FOR FREE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT THAT THAT BEARS OUT.

I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENT BEFORE THAT WHILE YOU GET A LOT OF VAGRANCY AND PEOPLE JUST RIDING THE BUS ALL DAY, I DON'T THINK DENTON CARES A LOT ABOUT THAT DICTA MIGHT.

AND THAT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE.

BUT I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S AN OBJECTION THAT I'VE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY'VE THE REASON THEY'RE NOT RIDING THE BUS IS BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY TOO MANY VAGRANTS OR SOMETHING ON IT.

AND YOU COULD DO THAT NOW.

YOU COULD PAY YOUR $0.50 AND GET ON THE BUS AND STAY ON THE BUS ALL DAY IF YOU WANTED TO.

[02:55:02]

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN ABOUT A CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED SEVEN MONTHS AGO, BUT I'LL I'LL LOOK BACK AT THAT CONVERSATION AND KIND OF REHASH THAT FOR SURE.

I'M GLAD YOU KNOW THAT. I ALREADY FEEL LIKE WE'RE PAYING PAYING FOR IT NOW.

I'M WHERE DO TO SAY I WILL SAY THAT I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH THE ASSERTION THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE RAN INTO LAST YEAR AROUND THIS TIME WAS OUR DAILY BREAD HAS A WORK TRAINING PROGRAM, AND THEY WERE REQUESTING, I THINK 24 MONTH, ONE MONTH PASSES FOR PARTICIPATION PARTICIPANTS IN THIS TRAINING PROGRAM.

AND MARY WORTHINGTON IN OUR OFFICE SAID, GREAT, OKAY, WE CAN GIVE THEM TO YOU FOR 50% OFF, 50% OFF OF 24.

ONE MONTH PASSES IS A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT.

FORTUNATELY, DENNY SHAW AND SARAH HENSLEY WORKED IT OUT FOR THE CITY TO COVER THE COST OF THOSE LAST YEAR.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US OFFERING PASSES COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE TO SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES AND NOT JUST 50% OFF.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR THAT.

AND AND I'D LOVE TO SEE TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT 1.8 IN THEIR BUDGET.

JUST STOP BUDGETING IT AND FIGURE OUT IN THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE FAREBOX.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S MORE MORE TO IT THAN THAT.

I'M GOING TO ADD MY QUESTIONS HERE.

SO FIRST I WANT TO NOTE FOR JUST FOR STAFF, WHEN JUST IN THE SOFTWARE, WHEN YOU UPDATED THE PRESENTATION, MOTHER ONE WENT AWAY WITH THE NOTES THAT I HAD IN IT.

SO. SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, JUST DON'T DELETE THOSE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU ADD THE REVISION.

THEN TO MS..

CITY MANAGER, I'M GOING TO EMAIL YOU MY EMAIL AGAIN BECAUSE THAT I SENT THIS WEEKEND BECAUSE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OF THE QUESTIONS AREN'T ANSWERED.

MY APOLOGIES, SIR.

WE HAVE THOSE RESPONSES.

WE WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT WHETHER WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO ADDRESS THEM VERBALLY OR IF YOU IF YOU NEEDED THEM VIA EMAIL.

YEAH, NO. AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR MY EMAIL AND I'M GOING TO ASK THEM NOW.

BUT FOR FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, I DIDN'T GET THOSE ANSWERS RIGHT.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO HAVE THOSE BECAUSE WHEN I'M DIRECTING PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION, WHEN I'M DIRECTING PEOPLE TO OR PULLING UP INFORMATION, I NEED THOSE IN A CENTRAL LOCATION.

AND IT'S IT'S CAPTURED FOR EVERYONE.

SO IF YOU COULD HELP ME IN THE FUTURE, MAKE SURE EITHER AS AN ASTERISK SAYING HEY WASN'T ANSWERED, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT EVEN ON THE LIST.

OKAY. SO THAT BEING SAID, WITH RESPECT, WHEN WE'RE WHEN WERE THE ROUTES CHANGED? WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? THAT THE ROUTES WERE? THERE'S BEEN TWO CHANGES, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WITH THE BUS ROUTES.

SO WHAT WAS THE WAS THERE A FIRST YEAR THAT THE BUS ROUTES WERE CHANGED? I MEAN, THE BUS ROUTES HAVE CHANGED ON MANY OCCASIONS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD.

THERE HAVE BEEN TWO SERVICE CHANGES.

WHAT YEARS WERE THOSE? 20. 20, PARDON ME? 2021. THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WENT INTO EFFECT AROUND CHRISTMAS AND THEN DECEMBER OR PARDON ME, JANUARY 1ST OF 2023 IS WHEN THE MOST RECENT SERVICE CHANGES WENT INTO EFFECT.

SO THAT TO ME MATTERS BECAUSE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS, AND I'M HAVING TO LOOK IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THEM IN ONE.

AND WITH THE ANSWERS IT CAME BACK TO US.

SO BEAR WITH ME. BUT ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THOSE TRACKING ALONG IS WHAT SHELTERS ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM BUS ROUTES THAT ARE NO LONGER ACTIVE. AND THE ANSWER WAS WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE CAN I CALL UP PAUL CHRISTINA TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU? CERTAINLY. AND I'M GONNA FINISH THE QUESTION.

LET ME GET THERE. AND AGAIN, SORRY, I WOULD HAVE RATHER LOOKED AT ONE PLACE AT ONCE, BUT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

BEAR WITH ME. SORRY, I JUST.

ANYWAY, THE ANSWER WAS THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

I'M BEING GENERAL JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MISS MISS PHRASE WHAT YOU SAID.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW IF WE HAD ROOTS, IT WENT AWAY IN 2021.

WE CAN'T RECONCILE AT LEAST THOSE ROOTS THAT ENDED A YEAR AGO AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S ROOT TO THE END THAT HAVE SHELTERS THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE 32 SHELTERS AND 34 BENCHES THAT CLOSED STOPS AND DENTON AND LEWISVILLE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY SERVICE CHANGES OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE

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I ASKED THE QUESTION AMONG STAFF, WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS SITTING OUT THERE? AND AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CLARITY THAT WE HAVE NOW AS TO WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE DISPOSITION OF THESE BUS ROUTES? NOW, I THINK THE ANSWER IS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT WHERE THE BUS ROUTES ARE.

AND SO WE, THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE SERVICE CHANGE, WENT THROUGH AN INVENTORY PROCESS TO IDENTIFY THOSE LOCATIONS AND NOW ARE GOING TO BE UNDERTAKING A PROCESS TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO PHYSICALLY RELOCATE THOSE ASSETS TO THE CONNECTOR ROUTES THAT ARE REMAINING.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN ONE OF OUR QUARTERLY DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF, THEY INDICATED THERE'S SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE POTENTIALLY LOCALLY THROUGH COVID RECOVERY FUNDS THAT MAYBE COULD HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THAT.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER THAT PACKAGE HERE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, HOPEFULLY BRING IT TO OUR BOARD FOR A DECISION ABOUT APPLYING FOR THAT GRANT POTENTIALLY IN FEBRUARY, MARCH TIME FRAME SO THAT WE CAN PUT OURSELVES IN THE QUEUE AND MAYBE GET FUNDING FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, ANOTHER OTHER IDEAS THAT CAME UP ABOUT HOW THAT INFRASTRUCTURE COULD BE USED WAS, WELL, CAN WE ENGAGE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS SOMETIMES THAT WE SEE SCHOOL CHILDREN USING THOSE SHELTERS TO WAIT FOR THE SCHOOL BUS? AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE FROM A MASTER PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS RIP OUT A SHELTER AND THEN REALIZE THAT SOME MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WAS LEVERAGING THAT FOR GOOD USE AND THEREFORE DISADVANTAGED THEM.

AND SO IT IS ON OUR RADAR.

AND SO THE ANSWER IS 32 SHELTERS, 34 BENCHES IN THOSE TWO IN THE TWO SERVICE AREAS.

YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT APPROACH TO IT.

I WOULD JUST ASK ANOTHER WRINKLE TO THAT.

IF WE HAVE A FREQUENTLY USED STOP THAT DOESN'T HAVE SHELTER, MAYBE THAT CAN BE EXPEDITED IN YOUR ANALYSIS.

ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

IF FOR THE ROUTES THAT ARE REMAINING HAVE REMAINED BECAUSE THEY'RE PROVEN TO BE HIGH FREQUENCY, HIGH VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO MAKE OUR OUR SYSTEM AS USER FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR BOARD'S DIRECTION.

SO. RIGHT. AND SO ANOTHER QUESTION I ASKED ABOUT WAS, WAS PREVIOUS VOTES BY OUR REPRESENTATIVE.

THAT WAS I WAS TOLD IN THAT ANSWER THAT WE'RE GOING TO JUST LOOK FORWARD.

BUT THEN IN THE ANSWER JUST NOW, IT WAS JUST MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, VOTE PREVIOUS VOTES ON ROUTES AND WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO.

SO THE PREVIOUS VOTES WERE MENTIONED JUST IN THIS DISCUSSION.

AND SO I AGAIN RENEW MY REQUEST FOR THAT INFORMATION.

MISS CITY MANAGER, YOU HAVE THAT THAT QUESTION AS IT'S PHRASED, BUT BASICALLY JUST TO KNOW THIS ITEM NUMBER, THIS TOPIC AND HOW IT WAS VOTED WOULD THEN ALLOW ME TO BE INFORMED AS TO WHAT WAS JUST TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUS VOTES, AND THAT WAS REFERENCED TODAY.

SO I AGAIN RENEW MY REQUEST FOR THAT INFORMATION.

SIMILARLY TO WELL, I HAVE AN ANSWER AND I FOUND IT TO BE INSUFFICIENT.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE A COMPLETE ANSWER, THEN JUST EMAIL IT TO ME SO I CAN HAVE IT.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT ON THE FLY, RIGHT? I WANTED IT IN ADVANCE SO THAT I COULD LOOK IT OVER AND PREPARE MY QUESTIONS FOR TODAY.

I WASN'T GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THAT'S FINE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO JOT IT DOWN LIVE.

I'D RATHER LOOK AT IT AND IN COPY, DO MY DUE DILIGENCE AND FOLLOW UP WITH AN INFORMED QUESTION.

YES, SIR. THEN WHEN IT COMES TO MAYOR, WHAT'S TOUCHED ON THIS GENERALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AS I TRY TO TRACK ALONG, I COULD NOT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SUMMARY ANSWER FOR GEOFENCING AROUND U.A.

PROPER, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I SENT OVER.

IF THERE'S A SUCCINCT ANSWER TO SAY I KNOW WE PUSHED IT OUT.

A. WE PUSH IT OUT.

SOME MIGHT SIMPLY SAID, ARE WE GOING TO PUSH IT OUT MORE OR IS THE CURRENT CONSENSUS TO LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS? THE GEOFENCE AROUND UNT CAMPUS? THE SUCCINCT ANSWER IS THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE TAKEN UP IN THIS INTERMEDIATE SERVICE PLANNING PROCESS THAT OUR BOARD MEMBER ADDRESSED.

AND SO THE CITY MANAGER, IF YOU CAN MAKE A NOTE FOR US AS A BODY TO GIVE DIRECTION OR AT LEAST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO GIVE DIRECTION ON OUR THOUGHTS ON ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN GIVE OUR REPRESENTATIVE DIRECTION AROUND THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND THEN PART ME WHEN I GET HERE.

FORGOT THAT. SORRY.

THESE WEREN'T. AND FORGIVE ME, I'M LOOKING IN TWO PLACES.

I'M SITTING IN THE EMPTY ROOM, SO AND THEN I JUST GIVE.

I'LL GIVE FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU. I'LL GIVE FEEDBACK ON ON THIS WHEN IT COMES TO TAX REVENUE TRIPS, GRANTS AND THAT SORT OF THING, THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT I'M PARAPHRASING AGAIN, BUT THAT'S

[03:05:04]

BUT I WOULD JUST SAY IF THE.

AND THIS IS JUST ME OPINING, BUT SAYING IF THE ORGANIZATION IS RUNNING MORE EFFICIENTLY BECAUSE I EXPECT US TO CONTINUE TO BREAK SALES TAX RECORDS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TASKED WITH DOING, MAKING THE CITY GO.

WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINE.

WE'RE PUSHING THE PUSH AND GET PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY AND DENTON.

ERGO, WE HAVE TO PAY MORE.

GET TO PAY MORE TO TO.

AND JUST GIVING YOU MY THOUGHTS.

I THINK THE MORE YOU GIVE THAT BACK MEANS IS AN INDICATOR THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS RUNNING EFFICIENTLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED THE ADDITIONAL X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST JUST GIVING YOU A LOOK INTO HOW I ANALYZE THE NUMBERS TO SAY IF IT'S ALMOST LIKE HOW MUCH.

NOT TO SAY THAT IT SHOULD FULLY COST RECOVER, BUT JUST TO SAY HOW HOW MUCH IS IT COST RECOVERING OR HOW MUCH? OR JUST IF WE GIVE TO AN EXTRA $2 MILLION, DO WE GET NOTHING BACK FOR THAT OR HEY, WE ONLY NEEDED 1 MILLION THIS YEAR. 1 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE TRIP.

BECAUSE JUST SO JUST GIVING YOU A LOOK INTO HOW I ANALYZE SUCCESS AND VALUE AS I'M TALKING TO CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE.

AND SO JUST AGAIN, I THINK THE TRIPS GRANT IS GREAT.

YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE VALUE IT CAN BRING IN THE QUIET ZONES AND THEN SOME OTHER AREAS.

I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.

THE WORK IT'S DOING ALREADY WITH THE SIDEWALKS, FANTASTIC.

SO I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GREAT AND ALL THE KUDOS TO EVERYONE THAT HELPED KIND OF SET UP THAT STRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BUT WANT TO CONTINUE TO TO USE THAT AS A AS A MEASURING TOOL.

JUST FOR ME PERSONALLY, AS MY, MY, MY.

LOOK AT IT THEN.

YOU TOUCHED ON MY MY QUESTION ABOUT THE RESERVES.

BUT I DO HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT.

MY QUESTION WAS FOR THOSE TRACKING ALONG IN 2023, BASICALLY WHAT MONEY IS ENCUMBERED? RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THAT.

BUT JUST KIND OF OF THAT, ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE NOT ENCUMBERED.

I KNOW YOU'RE DOING A STUDY OF SOME SORT, BUT.

HOW? OUTSIDE.

LOOKING IN. DO I MEASURE? HOW DO I LOOK FORWARD AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ENCUMBERED, WHAT'S NOT? OR WHAT'S THE TIMING? TO ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN.

GREAT. SO THE LONG RANGE FINANCIAL PLAN IS A VIEW OF WHAT WHAT THE AGENCY EXPECTS TO HAVE IN ITS REVENUES AND IN ITS RESERVE FUNDS OVER THE COURSE OF PERIOD OF TIME.

I THINK WE'RE UP TO 2036 AT THIS POINT.

WE HAVE A FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS TO DO A TRANSIT ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES HEAVY FLEET MAINTENANCE AND FLEET REPLACEMENT COSTS OVER THAT TIME PERIOD, AS WELL AS WE'D LIKE FOR THAT LONG RANGE FINANCIAL PLAN TO REFLECT ANTICIPATED INVESTMENTS AND SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS.

THE POTENTIAL TO ENHANCE THE SERVICE ON OUR A-TRAIN, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE FOCUSES WE'LL HAVE IN OUR FINANCE TEAM OVER THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR IS TO BEGIN INTEGRATING THAT LONG, THAT TRANSIT ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS AS WE BRING THOSE FOR DISCUSSION THROUGH THROUGH THROUGH OUR BOARD OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR.

AND SO I THINK I WOULD AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR NEW CFO THIS MORNING, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIORITIES FOR HER TEAM, SHE JUST JOINED US ON DECEMBER THE 12.

BUT THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THROUGH THIS BUDGET CYCLE WE WANT TO BRING TO THE SURFACE WHAT ARE THOSE LONG TERM NEEDS SO THAT THEY CAN BE MORE ACCURATELY REFLECTED IN THAT LONG RANGE FINANCIAL PLAN? GOT IT. SO SO IT'S FAIR TO SAY SO AFTER AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO AFTER THE THIS BUDGET CYCLE CHECK IN AND THAT WILL BE NOT TO SAY ABSOLUTELY CLEAR BUT THAT'S A GOOD I'LL HAVE A LOT DOG YEAR OF THAT PAGE AND KIND OF CHECK IN I'LL HAVE A LOT HIGHER LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT THE ACTUAL NEEDS OF THE AGENCY OVER THAT COURSE OF THAT PERIOD COVERED BY THE LONG RANGE FINANCIAL PLAN ARE REFLECTED. IF WE CAN GET ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS THIS FISCAL YEAR.

GOT IT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO SPEAKS WITH ON THIS, BUT ON A POSITIVE NOTE, I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE WE HEAR IT A LOT, HEY, YOU CAN'T EVEN TAKE THE TRAIN TO GO WATCH A MAVERICKS GAME OR WHATEVER.

SO I WANT WHOEVER SPEAKS TO THAT.

AS FAR AS WHAT WHAT DOES TO OFFER FOR RIDES IF SOMEONE GETS BACK LATE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE AND SO THAT'S IF SOMEONE'S TRAVELING TO DALLAS, THEY'RE MAKING IT WAY BACK KIND OF WHAT RIDES ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

SO THE GUARANTEED RIDE HOME PROGRAM AND I'M READING FROM MY NOTES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRECISE TRAVEL FROM THE DART TRINITY MILL STATION TO ANY ONE DESTINATION IN EITHER OF THE GO ZONES PROVIDED MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY THAT RUNS AT THE CESSATION OF A TRAIN SERVICE ON THURSDAY, MONDAY TO THURSDAY, 9:00 PM TO 1 A.M.

ON FRIDAYS FROM 10:00 PM TO 8 A.M.

AND ON SATURDAY FROM 10 P.M.

TO 2 A.M. THAT'S OUTSTANDING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'LL TELL YOU, MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS LOOK AT HOW CAN WE SYNCHRONIZE OUR TRAIN SERVICE POTENTIALLY TO LINE UP BETTER WITH SOME OF THOSE EVENTS THAT HAPPEN IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS, BECAUSE I HEAR IT A LOT WHEN I GO TO PUBLIC EVENTS.

[03:10:02]

YEAH, NO, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND AGAIN, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD THAT I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

THAT WAS THAT WAS NOT TOUCHED ON WAS THE SPONSORSHIPS.

YOU AND I SPOKE AT CONGRESSMAN BURGESS'S EVENT AND THE CTA WAS THERE WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER GOOD ORGANIZATIONS AT DISCOVERY PARK. AND SO I THINK THE ORGANIZATION DOES A GOOD JOB OF DOING COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND SO IT'S ANOTHER THING.

CITY MANAGER, IF WE CAN, I DO WANT TO GET THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I THINK THE ORGANIZATION'S DONE GREAT.

I HEARD A COMMERCIAL ON THE RADIO.

I MEAN, YOU'RE DOING REALLY GOOD THINGS TO STAY CONNECTED, TO STAY PLUGGED IN.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE.

AND OFTENTIMES IT'S YOU I SEE OUT THERE.

SO CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN DO YOU HAVE A I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE A.

YEAH, ANYONE CAN ANSWER IT.

DO YOU HAVE A CONTACT SHEET THAT WE CAN HAVE? SO SOMEONE SHOWS UP AND I DIDN'T BRING MY EXAMPLE AND I INTENDED TO, BUT WE HAVE A CAR VERY SLENDER, ALMOST LIKE A LARGE BOOKMARK.

BUT IT SAYS, HERE'S OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

SO SOMEONE SHOWS UP AT THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY SAY TO X, Y, Z STAFF TAKES THEIR INFORMATION, PASSES ALONG.

BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF WE HAD DC TO ONE PAGER CONTACT INFORMATION ISSUE.

CONTACT THESE PEOPLE.

POST CARDS. YES. CUSTOMER SERVICE.

EXACTLY. YEAH.

AND I THINK WE'D BE HAPPY TO PRINT IT.

WE JUST WHATEVER YOU HAVE THAT'S IN CENTRALLY LOCATED THAT WE CAN THEN START.

SOME PERSON SPEAKS OPEN MEETING.

HERE YOU GO. NOT NOT TO BE DISMISSIVE, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE JUST CAN'T ANSWER.

YEAH, THAT'S CERTAINLY A GREAT IDEA.

WE CAN TAKE THAT BACK. AND THEN WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE PRACTICES TO? AND THIS GOES TO COUNCILMEMBER DAVE'S POINT.

SO ON THE TRAIN, HOW REGULARLY ARE WE CHECKING FARES AND WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S OUR POLICY AROUND THAT? YEAH. SO I CAN I CAN USE SOME NOTES HERE, I THINK.

BUT I BELIEVE IT'S BETWEEN 75 AND 80% OF THE RIDES BETWEEN MED PARK AND HEBRON.

IS THAT THAT'S THE FAIR ZONE.

OUR, OUR CHECKED AND WE TRIANGULATE THAT BY GETTING THE DATA ON ON FAIR CHECKING AND VERSUS RIDERSHIP DATA AND FIND THE DIFFERENCE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE ABOUT A 15% FARE EVASION RATE.

THE PROCEDURE IS IF THERE IS NOT A COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTY ON BOARD, THEN THE CONDUCTOR WILL ASK THE THE PERSON WHO IS EVADING THE FARE TO LEAVE THE TRAIN.

AND IF THERE IS A DENTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTY ON BOARD, THEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY CAN ISSUE A CITATION FOR FARE EVASION.

OKAY. AND THE LAST THING I HAVE, AND THAT'S A FAIR POINT, IS WHAT'S THE TIMING ON OR IS THERE CONSIDERATION INTO WHAT TO DO WITH MED PARK? PARKING LOT. IT'S IT'S HUGE AND IT'S JUST STORING GOES ON VANS RIGHT NOW.

IS THERE A LONG TERM PLAN TO EVALUATE THAT? THERE IS NOT AN EXISTING LONG TERM PLAN, BUT THAT IS VERY, VERY MUCH SOMETHING THAT IS ON OUR RADAR.

MR. CHRISTINA AND I JUST DISCUSSED THAT AT OUR MEETING ON THURSDAY.

AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT THAT WE CONSIDER A VALUABLE ASSET.

ALL THE ALL THE LAND THAT CTA HAS THERE AT MED PARK OC AND THEN I LIED.

THERE'S ONE OTHER THING. SO IN YOUR IN THE PRESENTATION YOU TALK ABOUT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THE VALUE OF THAT.

AND I GUESS SO WHEN, WHEN THEY COME BACK IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN SO I THINK LEWISVILLE HAS A DEVELOPMENT GOING ON GOING NOW.

YES I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT WHAT I WAS PLANNING TO ADDRESS WAS THE KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN TODD STUDY, WHICH DOESN'T ACTUALLY TOUCH ANY EXISTING TRAIN CITY OF DENTON AREAS, BUT AND DOESN'T TOUCH THAT THAT WILL BE NEARBY THAT THAT LEWISVILLE OLD TOWN STATION BUT WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ALONG THE KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN LINE NOT ALONG THE A-TRAIN.

MAYOR JUST A BIT OF GOOD NEWS WE JUST HAD I HAD A MEETING WITH PAUL AND CHRISTINE AND WITH CASSIE, AND WE'RE SETTING UP A WORK SESSION WITH PAUL AND HIS STAFF TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BETTER UTILIZE THE CITY AREA AND THE DC TO LAND OVER THERE CLOSE TO THE POLICE STATION, BUT ALSO BETTER PLANNING FROM TRANSIT ORIENTED FROM A TRANSIT ORIENTED PLANNING.

SO LOOKING AT DESTINATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO, TO PLAN THAT.

[03:15:01]

GOT IT. AND SO, YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS, APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS.

I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE BY SAYING THIS.

I DO THINK I DID SHARE THAT.

I THINK IT'S BEST PRACTICE AND I'M GOING TO SHARE IT WITH THIS COUNCIL AS WELL, THAT WE HAVE STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT WE I SAW A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, I SAW A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER GIVE A PRESENTATION AND AS AS REQUIRED BY THEIR ORGANIZATION, AS DISCUSSED OR AGREED TO, THEY GIVE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS, HEY, THESE ARE MY COMMENTS OR MINE ALONE, NOT THOSE OF THE BOARD, ETC., ETC..

I TALKED TO DR. WILSON MORE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I THINK THIS COUNCIL SHOULD DO IT AND SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP TO DC TO.

AND THEN LASTLY FOR OUR OUR I THINK THIS BODY AND YOU CAN ALL SEE THE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.

IT'S MY QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO GIVING DIRECTION.

AND I AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO MY QUESTION TO TO YOU, MS..

MCGUIRE, IS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? ACCEPTING DIRECTION.

YOUR ANSWER IS IS DOCUMENTED.

I WON'T I WON'T PARAPHRASE, I WON'T REPEAT IT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS BODY, AS WHEN WE GET A MAJORITY SAYS WE WANT TO DO X, Y, OR Z.

ARE YOU ARE YOU COMFORTABLE EXECUTING, ADVOCATING THOSE THINGS, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY GO AGAINST YOUR PERSONAL DESIRES? AS LONG AS YOU'RE COMFORTABLE REPRESENTING THE MAJORITY OF THIS BODY IS DESIRES AT THAT MEETING, I JUST WANT TO GET THAT DOCUMENTED THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.

I'M NOT GOING TO COMMIT TO THAT.

I'D HAVE TO TAKE THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I AM PLANNING TO SOLICIT INPUT FROM COUNSEL TODAY.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

YOU DID COME WITH A PRESENTATION TODAY, RIGHT? LET ME APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS BODY HAS TREATED ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY OR STAFF THE WAY YOU'VE BEEN TREATED TODAY.

YOU CAME WITH THE PRESENTATION.

I, TOO, HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT THE RESPECTFUL THING TO DO WOULD BE TO ALLOW YOU TO PRESENT YOUR PRESENTATION.

I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T THINK SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS WOULD BE ASKED OF MR. SMITH IF HE WERE THE REPRESENTATIVE, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T BELIEVE THEY WILL BE ASKED IN THE MANNER THAT THEY WERE ASKED TO YOU.

AGAIN, PLEASE ALLOW ME TO APOLOGIZE.

I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

IF WE MAY, CAN WE HEAR HER PRESENTATION, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE. IT'S BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SHE CAN SUMMARIZE AND WE CAN BE DONE.

YES. SO YOU DON'T.

I VERY MUCH LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO GET A DOCUMENT. I MIGHT AFTER HER PRESENTATION.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BEFORE THEY WRAP UP AND CONCLUDE AND UNDERSTAND AFTER SHE'S AFTER SHE SUMMARIZES, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS AGENDA ITEM AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. SO YOU'VE BEEN MAYOR COUNCIL HAS NOT GOTTEN THE CHANCE TO GIVE ME.

SO FIRST AS A PRESENTER, I'D ASK YOU TO JUST GIVE US A MOMENT TO TALK, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE AS CHAIR, I'VE MADE A DECISION.

I APPRECIATE IT. I EXPECT YOU TO.

I'D ASK YOU TO RESPECT THAT.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS ARGUMENT IN PUBLIC, WE CAN HAVE IT IN.

IN PUBLIC. I DON'T ADVISE IT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO OBLIGE YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. CAN I MOVE TO APPEAL THE RULING OF THE CHAIR, PLEASE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RULING IS THAT YOU'RE APPEALING.

IF HE IS SAYING HE IS GOING TO CLOSE THE MEETING WITHOUT A PRESENTATION, I AM APPEALING THAT RULING AND ASKING FOR A PRESENTATION.

IT'S NOT QUITE HOW IT'D BE DONE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. I MOVE TO HAVE MS..

MCGUIRE MAKE THE PRESENTATION THAT SHE CAME HERE IN ORDER TO DO OK.

IS THERE A SECOND? HERE'S.

ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM.

GOT IT. MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN MCGEE FOR PRESENTATION.

THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE END OF THE MEETING ANYWAY.

AND CATHERINE MCGEE, SECOND BY COUNCIL.

MAYOR PRO TEM. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN DAVIS. YEAH.

I HAVE A QUESTION THAT LAST.

THAT LAST THING YOU JUST SAID.

YEAH. WHEN I STARTED THE PRESENTATION, I SAID THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO SUMMARIZE AT THE END OF THE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MAGICAL, MYSTICAL DEFINITION OF PRESENTATION, BUT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, BEFORE WE STARTED, THEY'LL GET THE LAST WORD TO SUMMARIZE.

OKAY. NOW, THAT HELPS MY DECISION.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I AND THE THE VERSION OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE GOT FROM ROSA AT YOU SAID THE TIME EARLIER, BUT THE EMAIL WE GOT, THAT'S THE LATEST VERSION OF THE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WHAT'S.

NO, NO, NO.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY. I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION AT THE END ANYWAY, SO.

YEAH. YEAH. OK.

[03:20:01]

I THINK. I DON'T KNOW YOU.

YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES TO SUMMARIZE, TO PRESENT WHATEVER.

THAT YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A HARD I'VE NEVER BEEN PRESSED ON THE DEFINITION OF PRESENTATION BEFORE TODAY.

I DON'T. STAFF SUMMARIZES WHAT THEY PRESENT TO US EVERY DAY.

RIGHT? AND SO IS THAT A SUMMARY? IS THAT A PRESENTATION PRESENTATION? OK COUNCILOR MCGEE MR. MAYOR, YOU SAID SHE'S GOING TO HAVE 5 MINUTES TO SUMMARIZE.

THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S 5 MINUTES.

ENOUGH TIME FOR COUNSEL TO SUMMARIZE.

NO, SIR. I WAS TOLD THAT I WOULD HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT IF SHE WAS TOLD IN ADVANCE SHE WOULD HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT.

IS THERE A REASON WHY SHE'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PRESENT? COUNCILMEMBER MCGEE? WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND THE AGENDA COMMITTEE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, NOT LIVE HERE IN THIS MEETING, BUT YES, IT WAS CLEARLY COMMUNICATED.

AND I ALSO WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MOVE IT TO THIS POINT IN TIME SO THAT WE'D UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE VERSUS FIRST WHEN I'D HAVE TO CUT IT OFF RIGHT AT 30 MINUTES SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE AND THERE'S NO WAY AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA SAYS 30 MINUTES AND YOU'RE GUARANTEED A PRESENTATION FOR 30 MINUTES.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

LOOK ON YOUR AGENDA.

IT SAYS 30 MINUTES.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN BE TOLD YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR 30 MINUTES AND THEN ENTIRE ITEM TIME BUDGETED FOR THE ITEM IS 30 MINUTES AND WE'VE WASTED 20 MINUTES HERE. SO LET'S VOTE.

COUNCILWOMAN MCGEE, HOW SAY YOU I MAYOR PRO TEM.

HI, COUNCILMAN BYRD I COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

NAME? COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S.

I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

WE'RE VOTING ON. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE VOTING ON.

IF I DON'T, I CAN'T SUMMARIZE.

I DON'T KNOW. WOULD LIKE SAY MY MOTION.

SO, MR.. MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD IF I COULD JUST FOR A MOMENT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TRAPPED IN THIS IDEA OF TIME LIMITS ON THIS PRESENTATION. I'M JUST SAYING I WANT TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION.

I DON'T EXPECT EVERY SLIDE TO BE READ.

I MEAN, I'VE READ THE PRESENTATION.

I'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND READ THE NEW ONE.

BUT THAT'S JUST DATA.

SO I'M CERTAINLY OK WITH REPRESENTATIVE MCGUIRE GIVING HER PRESENTATION.

I JUST I JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO SLIDE BY SLIDE AND WHATEVER TIME THAT TAKES, YOU'RE THE CHAIR.

YOU CAN DECIDE ON THAT.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE WE'RE SORT OF TALKING ABOUT YOU SAY POTATO.

I SAY POTATO, POTATO.

BUT I MEAN, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN A VERY SUCCINCT MANNER THAT PRESENTS THE INFORMATION THAT SHE WANTS TO PRESENT TO THIS COUNCIL AND THIS BODY AND TO THIS COMMUNITY.

SO. WELL, WHETHER THAT TAKES 5 MINUTES, I JUST DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

SO THE HAS MADE A DECISION AND COUNCILMEMBER MCGEE IS TRYING TO USURP THAT DECISION.

AND SO THAT'S THAT THAT THEN GOES TO THE BODY TO SUPPORT EITHER USURPING MY DECISION OR NOT.

POINT OF ORDER. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

I DID NOT USURP YOUR DECISION.

I MADE A MOTION.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

IS THAT NOT? THE CHAIR MADE A DECISION.

AND IF SOMEONE'S CHALLENGING THAT IS USURP A BAD WORD.

I MEAN, ISN'T THAT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS? NO. WELL, YES, NOT QUITE A POINT OF ORDER, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK TO GET ON WITH THE VOTE OR THE.

MAYBE IT'S EASY IS JUST TO SAY LET'S DO THE PRESENTATION.

BUT I HATE TO THROW THAT OUT AS AN OFFER, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH, BUT. BUT THE PRESENTATION ENDS THE QUESTION AND ANSWER THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND I GUESS THAT SEEMS TO BE SOME KIND OF CONTENTION.

BUT THE PRESENTATION.

INFORMS THE QUESTIONS.

RIGHT. I MEAN, NOT FOR YOU TO ANSWER, COUNCILMAN WATTS.

THAT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE US.

AND I NEED YOUR VOTE SO THAT I CAN DOCUMENT THIS.

OKAY? I'M FOR LISTENING TO A PRESENTATION.

I THINK I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION AS TO WHAT QUESTIONS ARE TAKEN AFTER THAT PRESENTATION.

OKAY, THEN IF YOU.

WE HAVE 45 MINUTES.

YEAH. NOW, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND THAT'S GOING TO AND LET ME PREFACE THIS, THAT THAT'S FOUR VOTES FOR THAT.

AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS.

THAT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE THE DISCUSSION.

AND THERE'S FOUR VOTES FOR THAT.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, ASK THEM NOW.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

I'M GOOD. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, COUNCIL MAGUIRE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE UNTIL 630 WHEN WE HAVE TO BE IN CHAMBERS.

SO LOOKING BACK ON 2020 TO 2022 WAS WAS A BIG YEAR TO LOTS AND LOTS OF CHANGES.

WE HAVE LOTS OF NEW LEADERSHIP.

PAUL CHRISTINA IS OUR NEW CEO.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS HIS FIRST TIME PRESENTING TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

[03:25:02]

CHRISTINA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER NEW LEADERSHIP AT THE AGENCY AS WELL.

WE HAVE A NEW DIRECTOR OF SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE AND BRACY GOODWIN, NEW DIRECTOR OF MARKETING AND COMMS, AND DAVID MAGANA, NEW CFO, WHO WE'VE ADDRESSED IS CHERYL EVANS JONES AND A NEW CEO, MAURICE BELL, WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

HAVING A CEO CLEAN AUDIT REPORT FOR FY 21.

WE HAVE INITIATED THE PROCESS OF HAVING ANY KIND OF ERP.

THE AGENCY DID NOT HAVE AN ERP.

FINANCIAL PROCESSES WERE BEING DONE MANUALLY.

SO WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF BIDDING FOR AN ERP.

THE JOINT RAIL OPERATIONS FACILITY IS AT 60% DESIGN TRIP PROJECTS I GAVE AN UPDATE ABOUT IN JULY.

THE NCT COG TRANSIT STUDY IS ONGOING.

THE FOCUS OF THE TRANSIT STUDY IS PRIMARILY ON AREAS OF DENTON COUNTY THAT ARE NOT SERVED BY CTA OR THAT ARE NOT MEMBER CITIES OF CTA.

BUT AT OUR SEPTEMBER COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE DTC, WHICH WAS I THINK THERE WERE LIKE 55 OR 60 PEOPLE AT THAT MEETING, IT WAS VERY, VERY WELL ATTENDED.

THERE WAS INTEREST SHOWN IN EXPANDING THAT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOLISTIC AND INCLUDING CTA AND NON CTA AREAS AS WELL.

TRANSFORMATION INITIATIVE, WHICH STARTED UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF FORMER BOARD CHAIR WATTS, HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE COMPREHENSIVE OPERATIONS AND FARE STRUCTURE ANALYSIS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THOSE CHANGES HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST.

THE FARE CHANGES AND SERVICE CHANGES YOU CAN SEE THERE.

I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT RIDERSHIP OR ON TIME PERFORMANCE OR SEAT UNAVAILABILITY, A MAJORITY OF THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED BY VISITING THE DASHBOARD.

I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OPERATING STATISTICS.

SO TRANSIT OPERATING STATISTICS ARE REPORTED TO THE FTA AND BY THE FTA.

SO WHEN WHEN I USE THE WORD RIDERSHIP, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS CLEAR THAT I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT UNLINKED PASSENGER TRIPS.

SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RIDERSHIP, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE WHO RIDE.

SOMETHING THAT THAT I SAY A LOT IS THAT I REALLY WISH WE COULD CAPTURE THAT DATA OF LIKE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE DENTON COUNTY OVERALL POPULATION USES DOCTOR'S SERVICES.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE DATA COLLECTION TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE GO WITH UNLINKED PASSENGER TRIPS BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST RELIABLE STATISTIC THAT WE HAVE.

MODE COST ANALYSIS FRAMEWORK.

WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT ROY AND COST OF SERVICE.

SO I THOUGHT THAT I'D SHARE WITH EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE'RE DETERMINING THAT THE COST PER VEHICLE REVENUE HOUR FOR CONNECT IS $106.95 VERSUS GO ZONE IS $50.80.

SO A CONNECT BUS COSTS ABOUT 2.1 TIMES MORE TO OPERATE PER REVENUE HOUR, WHICH MEANS THAT OVERALL SYSTEM PRODUCTIVITY NEEDS TO BE APPROXIMATELY 2.1 TIMES HIGHER THAN GOES ON.

I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CHECK OUT THE BUDGET, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUPS.

PAGE 126 OF THE BUDGET CONTAINS HISTORICAL RIDERSHIP DATA, SYSTEMWIDE RIDERSHIP DATA GOING BACK TO 2016. LOOKING AHEAD TO OUR WORK PLAN, I HAVE CAHAYA ON HERE, BUT NOW WE HAVE THE CEO.

I'LL SKIP THROUGH THIS. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS A LOT.

SAFETY AND SERVICE REPORTING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT IN YOUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THAT I SENT OUT.

A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE ASKED, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS GREAT DASHBOARD WHERE WE CAN LOOK UP RIDERSHIP BY MODE, RIDERSHIP BY ROUTE.

WE CAN LOOK AT GO ZONE ON TIME, NOT ON TIME PERFORMANCE, BUT WAIT TIMES AND SEAT UNAVAILABILITY.

BUT WE CAN'T DO THE SAME THING FOR SAFETY DATA.

SO THAT IS IN THE WORKS.

WE ARE DEVELOPING A SAFETY DASHBOARD WHICH WILL BE ACROSS ALL MODES, AS YOU CAN SEE, GOES ON BUS AND RAIL AND AS WELL AS CONTRACT SERVICES AND OTHER THINGS.

BECAUSE OF COURSE SAFETY REPORTING MATTERS ON ALL MODES, NOT JUST ON GO ZONE, WHICH WE TEND TO FOCUS ON.

SO CEO EVALUATION POLICY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER WATTS HAS HAS BEEN REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

THERE THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DIRECTION FOR FOR OUR PRIOR CEO REGARDING WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS THAT THE BOARD WANTED AND WHAT

[03:30:02]

SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

THE PROCESS HAS ALREADY BEGUN OF DEVELOPING A FORMAL EVALUATION PROCESS FOR OUR CEO.

THERE WILL BE A VARIETY OF FACTORS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO KPIS FOR SAFETY, RIDERSHIP ON TIME PERFORMANCE AND OF COURSE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

AND AS PART OF, IN MY OPINION, IMPROVING ORGANIZATIONAL EFFICIENCY, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SHARE PARDON ME, CHANGES TO THE TMC ORGANIZATION.

I'D LIKE TO THANK DAVID GAINES FOR HIS SERVICE ON THE TMC BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

OBVIOUSLY, HE'S GOING TO BE LEAVING DENTON OR HAS LEFT DENTON AND TMC TO GO JOIN DART MEMBER CITY ADDISON.

SO MAYBE WE'LL STILL HAVE SOME SOME INTERACTIONS WITH HIM AND HIS WONDERFUL SKILLS.

BUT WE ARE REALLY EXCITED THAT THE CITY OF DENTON STAFF HAS NOMINATED CASSIE OGDEN TO SERVE ON THE TMC BOARD.

WE WILL BE VOTING ON THAT APPOINTMENT AT THE JANUARY BOARD MEETING.

I HAVE ABSOLUTE FAITH IN CASSIE'S EXPERTISE AND ABILITY TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE.

SO TO TALK ABOUT RIDERSHIP GOAL SETTING.

SO THIS THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE NUMBERS THAT I INITIALLY INCLUDED IN THE BACKUPS.

I REALIZED AFTER I SENT IT OUT THAT I HAD INCLUDED A COMBINATION OF FISCAL YEAR RIDERSHIP AND CALENDAR YEAR RIDERSHIP.

SO I HAVE AMENDED IT TO BE APPLES TO APPLES.

EVERYTHING IS FISCAL YEAR, NOT NOT CALENDAR YEAR HERE.

BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT YOU TO TO TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THE BOTTOM ROW ANNUAL UNLINKED PASSENGER TRIPS PER CAPITA.

WE ARE GROWING BY APPROXIMATELY 3.3% PER PER.

WE BEING DENTON COUNTY, OUR POPULATION IS GROWING BY 3.3% PER YEAR.

MY MY OPINION I WOULD LIKE TO SEEK INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL ON THIS IS THAT 3.3% GROWTH IN OVERALL RIDERSHIP, WHICH WOULD RESULT ROUGHLY IN STATIC GROWTH IN ANNUAL UNLINKED PASSENGER TRIPS PER CAPITA, WOULD BE THE BARE MINIMUM THAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE FROM A FUNCTIONING TRANSIT AGENCY THAT'S PROVIDING SERVICES.

I WOULD LOVE TO SET A GOAL THAT IS MORE AMBITIOUS THAN THAT.

STAFF TELLS ME THAT WE CAN'T KEEP GROWING BY 120% EVERY SINGLE YEAR OR KNOW I'M SORRY, 110%.

EXCUSE ME. WE GREW BY 110%, 2021 OVER 2022.

BUT I WANT TO PUT THAT THE PER CAPITA NUMBER IN EVERYONE'S MINDS AS AN IMPORTANT NUMBER TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOAL SETTING.

SO IT IS OBVIOUSLY BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO CHART WHAT EXACTLY SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE KPIS AND BENCHMARKS FOR RIDERSHIP ON ALL MODES, SEAT ON AVAILABILITY AND ON TIME PERFORMANCE EFFICIENCY, MEANING PASSENGERS PER REVENUE HOUR.

AND ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING COST AS PART OF THAT AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SOMEWHAT.

I'M GOING TO FAST FORWARD TO HERE.

SO THE TOTAL SYSTEM WIDE UNLINKED PASSENGER TRIPS IN SEPTEMBER 2022 WAS 329,418.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. THAT'S KIND OF A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MOVE IN ONE MONTH.

EXCUSE ME, NOT PEOPLE. THOSE AREN'T INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE.

THOSE ARE RIDES. BUT IF WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO PUT THESE 12,996 GO ZONE RIDERS INTO FIXED ROUTES, OUR OVERALL SYSTEM RIDERSHIP COULD HAVE BEEN 342,414 WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT, ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO CTA BECAUSE THE FIXED ROUTES HAVE A FIXED COST AS WELL.

SO THAT THAT'S THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR COST SAVINGS HERE.

ONE OF THE STEPS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED, IT'S A SMALL ONE, BUT IT'S AN EASY ONE, IS FACILITATING MULTIPLE MULTIMODAL TRIPS THROUGH APP INTEGRATION.

SO WE ONLY HAVE A FEW DAYS OF DATA FROM THIS SO FAR.

BUT THERE'S A NEW FEATURE IN THE GO ZONE APP THAT WHEN A RIDER REQUESTS A RIDE AND THEY ARE WITHIN, I BELIEVE IT'S A QUARTER MILE OF OF, OF A FIXED ROUTE STOP, THE APP WILL PROMPT THEM TO CONSIDER FIXED ROUTE INSTEAD THE APPLES SHOW THEM WHEN THE ARRIVAL TIME IS FOR THE NEXT BUS.

[03:35:05]

SO I'M.

HAPPY TO TAKE DIRECTION OR INPUT OR FEEDBACK ON ANY OF THOSE UPCOMING ISSUES.

OKAY, GREAT. IF IF EVERYONE WILL GET THEIR EMAILS TO STAFF, IF YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, THAT CONCLUDES ITEM F AND WE NEED TO REJOIN IN CHAMBERS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND EAT AND LET'S GO IN CHAMBERS AT 615.

WE'LL FINISH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN THAT SHOULD TIME IT UPRIGHT FOR US TO GO INTO OUR ONE ITEM FOR THIS EVENING.

SO WE'LL BE ADJOURNED TILL 615.

THANK YOU. WELCOME BACK TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

BUT IT'S 617.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE WE ARE IF YOU'RE TRACKING ALONG IN THE AGENDA, WE ARE AT THE CONSENT AGENDA PORTION.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S ONE THREE OR FOUR VOTES THERE.

AND THEN THAT'LL TAKE US TO THE HOPEFULLY RIGHT AT 630 OR WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.

BUT THAT'LL TAKE US TO THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WILL START RIGHT AT 630.

SO NO PRESSURE.

GERINGER OKAY.

SO FIRST CONSENT AGENDA, I'LL TAKE A MOTION, BUT FOUR ITEMS F, J AND W MAYOR PRO TEM.

[1. CONSENT AGENDA]

SO WE HAVE A DAVIS TERM.

THIS IS AN UNUSUAL I MISSED ONE AGAIN.

AND SO AT THIS TIME I COULD OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO ACCEPT ITEM K AS WELL FROM THE CONSENT.

OKAY. SO MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT? YES, I DO. COUNCILMAN MCGEE YES, SIR.

AND MAYOR, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION I DON'T SEE COUNCILMEMBER WHAT'S ON THE MEETING TONIGHT, BUT HE HAD SUBMITTED A RECUSAL FORM FOR ITEM H AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT HE WAS GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM ITEM H.

THANK YOU. YES. AND HE WON'T BE JOINING US FOR FOR THESE ITEMS. SO LET THAT THE CAPTURE THAT IN THE RECORD TO WHEREVER WE NEED TO SO THE MOTION BEFORE US IS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM BUT FOR F, J W AND K DO WE DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION FOR H FOR COUNCIL? WHAT'S WITH HIM ABSENT.

THERE'S NO REASON TO. HE'S JUST AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I GOT TO WRITE IT NOW OR NO? CAN CAN WE VOTE ON THE SCREEN SINCE HE'S ABSENT? OR DO I HAVE TO DO IT BY VOICE? OH, GOT IT. OKAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM. I'LL TELL YOU.

COUNCILOR MCGEE. I GUESS WHAT, BERT, I.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS, I.

MAYOR HUDSPETH AS I AS WELL.

THAT PASSES SIX ZERO.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.

I'LL CALL ITEM F, WHICH IS ID TWO ID 23076.

[F. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the City Manager to execute an Interlocal Agreement between the City of Denton and University of North Texas, A Higher Education Agency of the State of Texas (UNT) for the North Texas Boulevard Widening and Improvements at Apogee Stadium Construction Project.]

A HIGHER EDUCATION HIGHER EDUCATION AGENCY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR NORTH TEXAS BOULEVARD WIDENING AND IMPROVEMENTS AT APOGEE STADIUM CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

THERE IS NO PRESENTATION.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

COUNCILMAN. MAYOR PRO TEM.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM F.

THAT'S WHAT MCGEE SECOND OK MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE MAYOR PRO TEM.

HOW SAY YOU? COUNCILMAN MCGEE I COUNCILMAN BYRD I.

MAYOR HUDSPETH IS AN I AS WELL.

THAT PASSES FOR ZERO.

THIS TAKES US TO.

CAN YOU GET THERE? GOODNESS.

J. YEAH, I'M JUST GOING TO JOT THEM DOWN SO I CAN KEEP FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH.

J. W.

GOT IT. SO I THINK NEXT WOULD BE J, WHICH IS

[J. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton approving and authorizing the City Manager to execute an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between the City of Denton and Denton County for Ambulance Services; and declaring an effective date.]

[03:40:07]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DENTON AND DENTON COUNTY FOR AMBULANCE SERVICES AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM I MOVE APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? COUNCILMAN MCGEE. OH, SORRY.

SO, A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

MAYOR PRO TEM, ICU.

RIGHT. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

SORRY. COUNCILMAN BYRD.

MAYOR HUDSPETH IS A I AS WELL.

THAT PASSES FOR ZERO.

TAKES THIS TO ITEM K, WHICH IS ID 222518.

[K. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton approving and authorizing the City Manager to execute an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between the City of Denton and Denton County for Fire Protection Services; and declaring an effective date.]

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM K MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND.

OK MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM BECK.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR MCGEE, HOW SAY YOU? I MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCILWOMAN BYRD I MAYOR HUDSPETH AS I AS WELL THAT PASSES FOUR ZERO.

LAST ITEM IS ITEM W.

[W. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the City Manager to execute an agreement between the City of Denton and Denton County for the payment and use of hotel tax revenue in support of the Denton County Museums; and providing an effective date. ($240,000 - Community Partnership Committee recommends approval 3-0)]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DENTON AND DENTON COUNTY FOR THE PAYMENT AND USE OF HOTEL TAX REVENUE IN SUPPORT OF DENTON COUNTY MUSEUMS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION COUNCILOR MCGEE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM W.

COUNCILMAN BURT. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BYRD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR MCGEE, HOW SAY YOU? I. COUNCILMAN BYRD.

I MAYOR PRO TEM.

HI, MAYOR HUDSPETH AS I AS WELL.

THAT PASSES FOUR ZERO WELL CAN LIT.

COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS REJOIN US AND WE HAVE. ONE ITEM FOR I CAN TAKE THIS ONE ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, AND THAT'S ITEM AA220001C CONDUCT THE SECOND OF TWO READINGS OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY

[A. Conduct the second of two readings of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas annexing approximately 18.60 acres of land, generally located approximately 500 feet north of US 380 (University Drive) and east of Thomas J. Egan Road into the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; providing for a correction to the city map to include the annexed land; and provide for a savings clause and an effective date. (A22-0001c, 380 and Thomas J Egan, Ron Menguita)]

EGAN ROAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL RON MCGEE, THE PRINCIPAL PLANNER IN THE SERVICES.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

TONIGHT WE ARE DOING A OR CONDUCTING A SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS CONSIDERING THE ANNEXATION AS PRESENTED IN THE INTRODUCTION. IT IS A PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY 18.6 ACRES LOCATED WEST OF THE CITY, ROUGHLY THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF THOMAS EAGAN AND UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

BY WAY OF RECORD.

I'M GOING TO READ THE ORDINANCE AS SUCH.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 18.6 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET NORTH OF US 380 UNIVERSITY DRIVE AND EAST OF THOMAS J.

EGAN ROAD IN THE CITY OF DENTON, THEN COUNTY, TEXAS, PROVIDING FOR A CORRECTION TO THE CITY MAP TO INCLUDE THE ANNEXED LAND AND PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS CLAUSE AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

STAFFS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ANNEXATION AS IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE UNDER SECTION 245E, AS WELL AS SECTION 275D. WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTION AND WHERE THERE IS ACTION REQUIRED FOR THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

SEE NONE.

MAYOR PRO TEM. I MOVED APPROVAL LAST TIME.

I'LL MOVE APPROVAL THIS TIME AS WELL.

COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

[03:45:01]

MAYOR PRO TEMPORE. SAY YOU, COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

HI, COUNCILMAN MCGEE I COUNCILWOMAN BYRD I MAYOR HUDSPETH AS I AS WELL.

THAT PASSES 5 TO 0.

AND WITH THAT WE WILL BE WILL BE ADJOURNED UNTIL 630.

SO ABOUT THREE MINUTE BREAK, AND THEN WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE REST OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS ONE ITEM AND SOME PROCLAMATIONS.

SO WE'LL GET STARTED BACK IN 3 MINUTES.

GET THIS 631 AND I'M GOING TO STEP DOWN FOR, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZING THE CITY OF DAYTON TEEN COUNCIL.

WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZING THE PARTICIPANTS OF DENTON 360, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ALSO RECOGNIZING ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY INCORPORATED FOR THEIR FOUNDER'S DAY.

SO FIRST I'LL COME DOWN AND WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY THE TEXAS VETERANS HALL OF FAME.

OH, LET ME GRAB THIS.

[A. Recognition: Plaque in appreciation to the City for support of the Texas Veteran’s Hall of Fame.]

AND I'M GOING TO ALLOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE HERE RECOGNIZING.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL, I DON'T MIND THEM ON.

I'M GOING TO READ THIS AS I GO.

JERRY AND JERRY, WE'RE WITH THE TEXAS VETERAN HALL OF FAME AND WE DON'T MAKE ICE CREAM, BUT SOMETIMES WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD.

BUT MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

MADAM CITY MANAGER, STAFF, AND TO THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE OF DENTON.

MY NAME IS GARY STEEL.

I'M PRESIDENT OF TEXAS VETERANS HALL OF FAME.

ON BEHALF OF THE HALL OF FAME, ITS BOARD AND VOLUNTEERS, I BRING YOU GREETINGS AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TO PRESENT A DOCUMENT OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR THE SUPPORT THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED US IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

WE STARTED OUR MISSION FIVE YEARS AGO.

OUR VISION WAS TO CREATE A VENUE TO HONOR OUR TEXAS VETERANS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, TO PRESERVE THEIR STORIES AND TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE AND YOUNGER GENERATIONS, ON THE STORIES AND SACRIFICES YESTERDAY, TODAY AND TOMORROW FOR OUR VETERANS.

IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY.

WITH NO FUNDS AND WITH ONLY A STRONG VISION, WE RETURNED TO HONOR 1.8 MILLION TEXANS THAT HAVE SERVED SINCE WORLD WAR ONE.

IN THE SUMMER OF 2018, WE PETITIONED THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO APPROVE OUR INCORPORATION TO DO BUSINESS IN THE STATE AS THE TEXAS VETERANS HALL OF FAME. THEY WOULD NOT DO THIS WITHOUT THE APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS MILITARY DIVISION, WHO WE HAD TO HAVE THEM SIGN OFF ON USING THE WORDS TEXAS AND VETERANS TOGETHER. THEY FELT THEY DID THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY.

ONCE WE WERE GRANTED PERMISSION TO INCORPORATE, THEN WE HAD TO GET A NONPROFIT STATUS IN SEPTEMBER 2008.

THIS THIS WAS ACCOMPLISHED.

AND WE WERE GRANTED PERMISSION TO TO WORK AS A NONPROFIT IN TEXAS.

IN 2019, WE SPENT MOST OF THE YEAR PREPARING FOR OUR FIRST INDUCTION CEREMONY.

WE SPENT DAYS OF RESEARCH AND PLANNING OUR CEREMONY AROUND OUR BYLAWS AND OUR INCORPORATION.

WE HAD MEETINGS IN CITY LIBRARIES, IN SECLUDED AREAS OF RESTAURANTS IN OUR HOMES, AND YES, IN THE FRONT YARD OF ONE OF OUR MEMBERS.

BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S LEADERSHIP AND THE SAME VISION OF KNOWING THE VALUE OF OUR MISSION, YOU MADE SURE WE HAD FRONT ROW SEATS IN THE USE OF CITY FACILITIES THAT WERE BEING REFURBISHED FOR COMMUNITY USE.

ONE SUCH EXAMPLE WAS THE OLD OAK OAK OLD CITY HALL.

THE CITY HALL WEST PROJECT.

IT WAS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT A VETERANS COMPONENT LIKE OURS BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION AS AN ANCHOR TO THE HISTORIC BUILDING.

HOWEVER, WE NEEDED TO PRESS ON WITH OUR MISSION AND FIND A PERMANENT LOCATION.

WE CREATED A MOBILE DISPLAY EIGHT FEET WIDE, TWO FEET, EIGHT FEET HIGH, TWO FEET WIDE AND 24 FEET LONG, A TOTAL OF 45 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE MALL THAT JUMPSTARTED OUR MISSION TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY WITH THE FOLLOWING ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

THANKS TO THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE MALL, WE WENT FROM 45 SQUARE FEET TO 4200 SQUARE FEET AND STILL NEEDING MORE AS A FIRST CLASS MUSEUM THAT PROVIDES MEMORABILIA AND DISPLAYS FROM ALL THE WARS.

THIS PLACE FILLED WITH UNBELIEVABLE STORIES OF OUR TEXAS HEROES.

IT IS A PLACE WHERE THE YOUNGSTERS HAVE LEARNED, PEOPLE HAVE CRIED, AND WE HAVE PROVIDED CLOSURE TO SOME THAT HAVE BORNE THE SCARS OF WAR AND THE LOSS OF LOVED

[03:50:05]

OUR WEBSITE PAGE COUNTER HAS OVER 127,000 PAGES THAT HAVE BEEN VIEWED SINCE 2018.

OUR RIFLE COLLECTION, 104 WEAPONS GOES BACK TO THE SPANISH-AMERICAN WAR, WHICH IS ONE OF A KIND.

THIS YEAR, WE HONOR OUR LADY VETERANS WITH HER OWN AREA, THANKED THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE BACK TO THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

WE HAVE BEEN FEATURED IN VARIOUS MEDIA OUTLETS, THREE RADIO SHOWS, TWO MAGAZINES, SEVERAL NEWSPAPERS.

WE HAD VISITS BY THREE NEWS OUTLETS, WHICH ONE WAS FROM HOUSTON AND TWO FROM DALLAS.

GOOD MORNING. TEXAS DID A SPECIAL ON US DURING OUR VETERANS WEEK.

WE WERE HONORED TO BE ABLE TO HOST THE AMERICAN VETERANS TRAVELING TRIBUTE WALL OVER VETERAN'S DAY WEEK.

THE WALL IS 341 FEET LONG AND A REPLICA OF THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL WALL.

IT WAS SET UP FOR FOUR DAYS AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR 24 HOURS.

A DAY. IT ALSO HAD OTHER 62 PLAYS, 60 PANELS OF DISPLAYS THAT HONORED ALL THOSE THAT WERE KILLED SINCE THE WAR WERE WON.

WE PROMOTED THIS EVENT AS THE LARGEST CITY VETERANS DAY REMEMBRANCE SINCE WORLD WAR ONE.

WE HAD FOUR INDUCTION CEREMONIES WITH A TOTAL OF 55 INDUCTEES.

50 OF THESE WERE TEXAS MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS OF THE 144 THAT TEXAS PROUDLY CLAIMS AS THEIR OWN.

LET IT BE KNOWN AT THIS MOMENT WE ARE ANNOUNCING THEN PROUD THAT OUR UPCOMING INDUCTION CEREMONY THIS NOVEMBER, OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER WILL BE THE LATEST TEXAN TO RECEIVE THE MEDAL OF HONOR.

HIS NAME IS DWIGHT BIRDWELL, WHO WAS BORN IN AMARILLO.

LESLIE OUR THREE SIGNATURE PROGRAMS. FIRST, I REMEMBER THEM FOREVER PROJECT.

OF THOSE THAT ARE DECEASED.

ONCE THEIR STORIES ARE ENTERED INTO OUR DATABASE, THE DATABASE GENERATES A QR CODE, AND THAT CODE IS PLACED ON SPECIAL MARKERS THAT GO ON THE GRAVE OF THAT VETERAN. WHEN THERE VISITED THE VETERAN'S GRAVE, YOU CAN SCAN THAT QR CODE AND READ ABOUT THE PROFILE OF THAT VETERAN.

AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT AND FUNDING.

YOU LITERALLY LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR US TO BUILD TWO MEMORIALS IN OAKWOOD CEMETERY THAT ALLOWS US TODAY TO HONOR THOSE VETERANS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

THE OAKWOOD CEMETERY MEMORIAL ARE USED TODAY AS A MODEL FOR OTHER CEMETERIES AND CITIES TO EMULATE.

WE HAVE 38 CEMETERIES ACROSS TEXAS NOW WITH OVER 70 TO 7200 PROFILES IN OUR DATABASE.

ANOTHER HONOR THAT NO OTHER CITY OR NO OTHER ORGANIZATION CAN CLAIM.

OUR SECOND SIGNATURE PROGRAM IS THE TRAIL OF HEROES LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

THIS SYSTEM ALLOWS OUR YOUNGER GENERATION THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENROLL AND PARTICIPATE IN A COURSE FILLED WITH LESSONS LIKE CIVICS, PATRIOTISM, MILITARY, MILITARY AND TEXAS HISTORY, TO MENTION JUST A FEW.

LASTLY, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REFURBISHING A 40 FOOT BUS THAT WILL DUPLICATE THE MISSION AND THE MUSEUM SO WE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC AT SCHOOLS, PUBLIC PRIVATE EVENTS.

THESE ACCOMPLISHED CAN GO ON AND ON, BUT WE KNOW YOUR TIME IS LIMITED AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE CITY FOR SEEING THE VALUE OF OUR MISSION.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOUR COMMITMENT TO JOIN US IS HONORING OUR TEXAS VETERANS.

FOR THIS, WE ARE GRATEFUL, AND WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION.

BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT LIKE THIS, IT MOTIVATES US TO CONTINUE TO WORK AND GIVE THE HOPES THAT OUR TEXAS VETERANS WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

WE GIVE THEM A HAND. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THIS ONE COMES TO THE CITY AND THIS ONE'S GOING IN THE MUSEUM SO WE CAN SHOW.

NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

YES. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IT'S TRULY SURREAL.

I WAS TALKING TO GARY IN HIS DRIVEWAY AND AND I SEE JERRY AT EVENTS AND HE AND HE TELLS ME, HEY, I GOT THIS IDEA.

AND IT WENT FROM MY IDEA TO WHAT HE WHAT HE SAID.

AND IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN TO GOLDEN TRIANGLE MALL, PLEASE GO AND AND SEE THEIR FACILITY.

THEY HAVE A BOOK AREA WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SIT AND LOOK AT BOOKS OR JUST KIND OF REFLECT AND LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION.

BUT I TELL YOU, IT IS A TRUE SUCCESS STORY.

AND IF YOU ARE NEAR ONE OF THE CEMETERIES FOR OAKWOOD, YOU'LL SEE THE GOLD MEDALLIONS.

YOU CAN SCAN THOSE THOSE QR CODES.

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AND AGAIN, IT'S IT'S FOCUSED ON TEXAS VETERANS, WHICH IS REALLY NEAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.

APPRECIATE IT. YES.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

JUST THIS ONE. OK.

GREAT. OK.

[B. Proclamation: City of Denton Teen Council]

ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TEEN COUNCIL, PLEASE COME ON DOWN.

HERE WE GO. WE'LL SLOT IN. HEY.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MAKE SOME MORE ROOM.

COME ON DOWN. ALL RIGHT. SOME PEOPLE CAN COME AROUND THE BACK THERE.

THAT'LL BE GOOD AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR THE GROUP? WHO'S YOU GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT. HOW'S IT GOING, GUYS? I'M DAVID. I WORK AT DANA RECREATION CENTER AS A COORDINATOR.

AND MY PROJECT THIS YEAR, I STARTED IN JUNE.

SO WAS TO COME UP WITH THE TEEN COUNCIL AND FIND THE KIDS AND HAVE THEM.

COMMUNITY SERVICE IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY.

OUR BIG PROJECT THIS SEMESTER IS TEEN NIGHTS.

SO ONCE A MONTH WE HAVE TEEN NIGHTS AND IT'S FROM MOVIE NIGHTS TO BATTLE OF THE BANDS TO HAVING KIND OF LIKE JUST A GAME NIGHT FOR TEENS ONCE A MONTH.

AND THEY'RE THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF PLANNING IT, GIVING ME THE IDEAS.

I JUST HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR THEM AND HELPING THEM PLAN IT OUT.

BUT I'LL HAVE THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.

SO GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS CHARLIE APPLETON.

HI, I'M DONOVAN JOHNSON.

MY NAME IS AMY CABRERA.

MY NAME IS MORGAN GIDEON.

MY NAME IS CHEYENNE GONZALEZ.

MY NAME IS HOLDEN MALOOF.

MY NAME IS MADISON MALUF.

HI. MY NAME IS ANA ISKRA.

HI. MY NAME IS HALEY OWENS.

HELLO. I'M MADISON KELLY.

HELLO. MY NAME IS HANNAH DICKEY.

HELLO. MY NAME IS IRIS CORTEZ.

HELLO. MY NAME IS BOBBY ECHOLS.

HI, I'M JEAN BOONE.

ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE AN EVENT COMING UP? SO WE HAVE A MOVIE NIGHT ON JANUARY THE 20TH, MOVIE NIGHT, JANUARY 20TH TO FRIDAY FROM SEVEN UNTIL WHENEVER THE MOVIE ENDS.

AND IT'S AT DANIEL RECREATION CENTER.

SO ALL TEENS, THERE IS A $5 REGISTRATION FEE, BUT THAT COMES WITH HOT DOGS, CHIPS AND A DRINK AS WELL.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OTHER CONCESSION ITEMS THAT NIGHT AS WELL.

YEAH. YEAH. WATCHING ROCKY OR SOMETHING COOL LIKE THAT OR SOMETHING.

OH, WOW.

WOW. THAT IS AWESOME.

LOTS OF SINGING. YEAH.

EVERY NIGHT WE'LL HAVE A PHOTO BOOTH THERE FOR THEM WITH LOTS OF DECORATIONS AS WELL.

SO THEY GO TO THE TO THE CITY OF DENTON WEBSITE OR TO RETRO WEBSITE.

IT'S UNDER SPECIAL EVENTS, TEEN NIGHTS, AND THE REGISTRATION IS THERE ONLINE.

GREAT. SO I HAVE A COPY FOR EVERYONE, BUT I HAVE A PROCLAMATION I'M GOING TO READ AND YOU CAN ALL THESE.

THIS VIDEO IS POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE SO YOU CAN GRAB IT, CUT IT, SHARE IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS, ALL THAT FUN STUFF.

IT NORMALLY TAKES THEM ABOUT A DAY AND IT'LL BE UP AND RUNNING.

SO IT READS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, WHO ARE TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS THE CITY OF DENTON, A PLACE OF FAMILIES TO UNITE, GROW AND PLAY, TAKES PRIDE IN THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND YOUTH INVOLVEMENT.

AND. WHEREAS, THE MISSION OF DENTON 18 COUNCIL IS TO DEVELOP YOUTH LEADERS COMMITTED TO LEARNING ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE ROLES THEY CAN HAVE IN IT, AND TO EMPOWER, ENLIGHTEN AND INSPIRE ALL YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THE DENTON WITHIN THE DENTON COMMUNITY.

AND. WHEREAS, THROUGH THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE CITY PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, THE MEMBERS OF DENTON'S TEAM COUNCIL STRIVE TO PRESENT POSITIVE SOLUTIONS, ACQUIRE NEW SKILLS, DEVELOP A GREATER SENSE OF CONFIDENCE AND FORGE MEANINGFUL CONNECTIONS.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DENTON RECOGNIZES THE TEAM COUNCIL'S HARD WORK, COMMITMENT AND INNOVATION IN THEIR ENDEAVORS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 10TH DAY OF JANUARY 2023 AS CITY OF DENTON TEEN COUNCIL DAY IN THE CITY. ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO CONTINUE BEING ROLE MODELS AND APPLAUD OUR TEEN YOUTH IN THEIR LEADERSHIP ENDEAVORS AS THEY ARE OUR FUTURE LEADERS.

IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN.

[04:00:06]

THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

YOUR NAME AGAIN. CAN YOU HEAR? YOU'LL BE THE OTHER END OF THIS.

THERE YOU GO. YEAH. IT TAKES TWO OF US TO.

ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. AND VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE.

[C. Proclamation: Denton 360°]

PETE, COME ON DOWN. AND IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WITH YOU, BY ALL MEANS SAYING COME DOWN WITH IF YOU WANT, NO PROBLEM.

OH, IT'S JUST GREAT.

THAT'S GOOD STUFF. OK WHO WANTS TO? TELL US ABOUT IS THAT.

TELL US ABOUT GETTING 360.

WHO WANTS TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS FROM STAFF? THERE WE GO. PERFECT.

SO. MONICA BENEVIDES, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SO SORRY I RAN YOU OVER.

DENTON, 360, FORMALLY KNOWN AS A CITIZEN'S ACADEMY, IS A SERIES OF SESSIONS WHERE WE JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

WE LEARN WE LEARNED EVERYTHING FROM FINANCE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

WE TOURED THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

DMAE SO IT JUST GIVES EVERYONE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT CITY DEPARTMENTS DO IN THE HOPES THAT THEY WILL HOPEFULLY VOLUNTEER FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND HOW DO YOU SIGN UP? WHEN IS IT SO? SO REGISTRATION WILL BE OPEN AGAIN IN THE FALL.

WE POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH LINKEDIN.

WE SHARE WITH THE UNC MPA STUDENTS, SO JUST BE ON THE LOOKOUT LATER THIS YEAR FOR MORE INFORMATION.

OKAY? THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND THEN JUST SHARE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT JUMPED OUT AT YOU AS YOU WENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR IT.

SO HERE YOU GO. MY NAME IS MARTHA BRAZIL, AND IT WAS AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS EDIFYING EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO PARTAKE IN, IN WHAT I DEEM TO BE PART OF OUR CIVIC DUTY.

IT WAS CLEAR THAT IN ALL OF THESE CLASSES, ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THESE CLASSES, IT WASN'T JUST A MATTER OF HERE'S SOME INFORMATION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

EVERYONE INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE FELT INVOLVED AND WAS AN ACTIVE PART OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON.

IT WAS VERY HANDS ON AND TRULY A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

I RECOMMEND IT TO ANYONE.

HI, MY NAME IS LASHAWN.

GARY AND I TRULY ENJOYED THE PROGRAM.

IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

IT WAS. I WAS IMPRESSED TO SEE HOW TRANSPARENT THE CITY WAS.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY ACTUALLY WORKED FOR US.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY SAID THEY WON.

IT'S THE FIRST SESSION, SO IT'S JUST GOOD.

THEY GAVE OUT THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE CITY OFFERED.

SO I REALLY ENJOYED IT AND I RECOMMEND IT FOR ANYBODY.

HELLO. MY NAME IS QUINTON GARY.

DENTON 360, IS A PROGRAM THAT I THINK SHOULD BE REQUIRED.

IT'S IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE THINGS IN PLACE NOW THAT ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT, HEY, YOU REALLY SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM.

IT IS. IT WAS AWESOME.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MONICA.

HELLO, I'M DEBORAH JOHNSON AND I AGREE WITH ALL THE REST OF THEM HERE.

THIS WAS REALLY A GREAT PROGRAM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY ENJOYED ABOUT IT WAS THAT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WERE OPEN TO ALL THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED AND WE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL AND YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, YOU CAN FIND OUT EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW.

AND IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.

IT REALLY HELPFUL. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

HI, MY NAME IS RACHEL.

RACHEL AND I WAS IT WAS JUST SO IMPRESSIVE HOW HARD OUR CITY WORKS.

THERE ARE MOVERS AND SHAKERS THAT YOU DON'T GET TO SEE EVERY DAY THAT MAKE THIS JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.

[04:05:03]

MY NAME IS LESLIE MOSTELLER.

NOT TO BE TOO REPETITIVE, BUT THE PROGRAM IS AMAZING.

IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY, ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO IT.

IT'S A GENEROUS PROGRAM IN TERMS OF ALL THEY GET.

THEY THEY GIVE US IN TERMS OF INFORMATION, BUT ALSO LET US TOUCH AND FEEL AND TRY AND JUST GET IN THE MIDDLE OF.

I LIKED LIVING IN DENTON BEFORE.

NOW I LOVE LIVING IN DENTON.

I AM SO IMPRESSED WITH DENTON AND HAVING SEEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

GOOD EVENING. I'M RONNIE JACKSON.

I ENJOYED THE PROGRAM AS WELL, AND I SECOND EVERY COMMENT THAT WAS MADE TONIGHT.

IT IS REALLY A GREAT PROGRAM AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TRY IT OUT IN THE FALL WHEN THE ENROLLMENT OPENS UP.

I LEARNED A LOT FROM THE PROGRAM AND LIKE SOMEONE SAID BEFORE, IT'S IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE REQUIRED.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RYAN JERGENS MEYER.

AND THESE ARE MY TWO KIDS.

WELL, TWO OF THE THREE WE GOT ELIAS AND EVERLY, AND IT WAS IT WAS GREAT TO BE ACCEPTED TO THE DENTON 360 PROGRAM AND THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE CITY AND EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF WHEN IT'S COMING TO WASTEWATER TREATMENT, TO ELECTRICITY, TO PLANNING, TO PARKS AND REC.

I MEAN, YOU NAME IT, IT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING WE WERE SHOWN IS HOW TO RUN AND OPERATE THE CITY.

SO THERE'S LOTS OF MOVING PARTS AND LOTS OF MOVING PIECES.

AND YEAH, IT'S LIKE PULLING BACK THE CURTAIN ON OZ TO SEE WHO'S BEHIND THERE, YOU KNOW? SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND IT TO EVERYONE.

THE REASON I GOT INVOLVED WITH IT IS BECAUSE LIKE THIS, THIS IS OUR HOME NOW.

WE MOVED HERE SIX YEARS AGO AND WE'RE NOT LEAVING.

SO I WANTED TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH MY CITY.

AND OF COURSE WE GOT TO NETWORK A LOT.

SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MONICA. GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK. OKAY, WELL, I HAVE A I HAVE A PROCLAMATION.

AND IT TRULY IS AMAZING TO TO WHAT MAKES IT ALL GO.

$1.4 BILLION CITY.

AND OUR CITY MANAGER KIND OF MAKES IT ALL GO WITH HER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND STAFF.

YES. YEAH.

YEAH. NO, IT'S.

I COULDN'T IMAGINE.

IT'S A TOUGH GIG, SO.

OKAY. I HAVE A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS DENTON 360 IS AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM CONSISTING OF VARIOUS SESSIONS THAT PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH INFORMATION.

ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES FOR FALL 2022 SESSION COVERED AREAS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE, AUDIT, PUBLIC SAFETY, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH, UTILITIES AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND. WHEREAS, THE OBJECTIVE OF DENTON 360 IS TO GIVE RESIDENTS THROUGH INTERACTIVE AND INFORMATIVE SESSIONS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, CITY SERVICES AND DECISION MAKING.

AND. WHEREAS, DENTON 360, HELPS TO CREATE THE FRAMEWORK OF INFORMED CITIZENS AND PROVIDES THEM THE TOOLS TO BECOME INVOLVED IN BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES WHICH HELP US HELP TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF DENTON.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE 2022 GRADUATING CLASS FROM DENTON 360 AND APPLAUD THEIR COMMITMENT TO DENTON'S BETTERMENT AND THE BENEFITS IT BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY IF WE GIVE THEM A HAND AGAIN.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

AND MAYOR. CAN I RECOGNIZE MONICA? MONICA DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

BECAUSE WE'RE OUT IN FRONT.

WITH THAT. I GUESS THAT COULD BE ENOUGH TO GET YOU TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT FORCE.

IS THAT RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.

HERE WE GO.

SO HE'S HERE? YES. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL. OH, I'M SORRY.

IT'S OKAY. LET'S DO IT.

HERE WE GO. HERE WE GO.

I DID IT. THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

YES. YEAH. OKAY.

AND. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER PROCLAMATION HERE.

LET'S SEE. SO EVERYONE THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, IF YOU COULD COME DOWN, PLEASE.

[D. Proclamation: Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated Founders' Day]

OKAY. OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

[04:10:02]

GOOD EVENING. I AM LAWANDA WALLACE, THE PRESIDENT OF OMEGA ALPHA.

OMEGA ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY INC FRISCO CHAPTER.

SO WE SERVE AS FRISCO AND PROSPER.

THAT DIDN'T END THE COLONY.

TODAY WE ARE RECOGNIZING OUR FOUNDERS.

THEY WILL BE CELEBRATING 115 YEARS OF SISTERHOOD IN SERVICE.

SO NORMALLY WE NORMALLY PARTNER WITH THE THE MACKAY CENTER AND THEN FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY AS WELL AS WE DO HOST COLLEGE FAIRS FOR STUDENTS HERE.

SO AND AND THIS PAST WINTER WE ALSO ADOPTED TWO GRANDPARENTS FOR CHRISTMAS AND PROVIDED FOR THEIR FAMILY.

SO PLEASE FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I'LL LET THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

HI, MY NAME IS PAMELA FOSTER.

I AM THE FIRST VICE PRESIDENT OF THE OMEGA ALPHA OMEGA CHAPTER OF ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, INCORPORATED.

I AM THE PROGRAM'S CHAIRMAN AND LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON.

I WAS PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE TEEN GROUP, SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CINDY TROWBRIDGE.

I AM THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF OMEGA ALPHA OMEGA, CHAPTER FOUR ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, INCORPORATED.

I AM ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FOR ALLIANCE FOR A BRIGHTER COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION THAT OUR CHAPTER SET UP TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE PROGRAMS, THE AMAZING PROGRAMS THAT WE PUT ON FOR THE CITIES THAT WE SERVE, AND AS WELL AS SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WE PROVIDE TO CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS THAT INCLUDE IT AND THE CITY OF DENTON.

AND YOU MENTIONED YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA.

WHAT ARE THOSE? IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO GET PLUGGED IN, YOU KNOW, THE INSTAGRAM IS 1908 AND YOU CAN FIND US ON FACEBOOK.

YOU CAN SEARCH FOR OMEGA ALPHA OMEGA CHAPTER.

PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, GO RIGHT AHEAD. NO.

AS WELL AS ALLIANCE FOR A BRIGHTER COMMUNITY IS ALSO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA TAGS.

GOT IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.

AND SO THE PROCLAMATION.

IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENT SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS ONE PRIVILEGE OF BEING MAYORS RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE OUTSTANDING POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

AND. WHEREAS, TODAY IS MY PLEASURE TO JOIN THE CITY OF DENTON IN OUR COMMUNITY IN HONORING.

ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY INC OMEGA ALPHA OMEGA CHAPTER.

AND. WHEREAS, OUR CITY IS HONORED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO THEIR FOUNDER'S DAY CELEBRATION AS THE OMEGA ALPHA OMEGA CHAPTER JOINS THEIR INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION IN CELEBRATING 115 YEARS OF SERVICE TO ALL MANKIND, AS AS DID THEIR FOUNDERS IN 1908.

AND. WHEREAS, ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY INC WAS ESTABLISHED ON JANUARY 15TH, 1908, ON THE CAMPUS OF HOWARD UNIVERSITY IN WASHINGTON, DC. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS.

IF YOU HADN'T BEEN THERE AS THE FIRST GREEK LETTER ORGANIZATION BY AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN IN AMERICA.

AND. WHEREAS, ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY INCORPORATED IS AN INTERNATIONAL SERVICE ORGANIZATION WITH A GLOBAL MEMBERSHIP COMPRISED OF MORE THAN 325,000 DISTINGUISHED AND SUCCESSFUL WOMEN WHO SERVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

NOW, THEREFORE, OUR GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 15TH DAY OF JANUARY 2023 AS ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, INCORPORATED FOUNDER'S DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND URGE ALL CITIES TO CONGRATULATE THEM ON THIS HONOR.

IF YOU CAN GIVE THEM A HAND, PLEASE.

HERE WE GO. YOU.

THE PHONE IS A LAPTOP.

THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME. MY PLEASURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR.

WELL BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PLAYING THE THE RULES ON SPEED.

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[4. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

AND THEN WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER, MR. DYLAN. MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN AND THEY'LL PLAY THAT VIDEO.

DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM.

SPEAKERS WILL HAVE 4 MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND 4 MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT.

A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME IS EXPIRED.

IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING.

IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS.

IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NON SCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NON SCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS.

ON NON SCHEDULED ITEMS, PROPOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY.

SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY.

OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO DO I'M TURNING OVER A NEW LEAF 2023 FRICTION MORE FRICTIONLESS.

RIGHT? SO IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE YOU IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE 4 MINUTES.

YOU DON'T WANT THE ADDRESS? NO, I'M GOOD.

THAT'S 23.

HAPPY NEW YEAR. HAPPY NEW YEAR.

GO AHEAD. IF WE COULD ROLL THAT BEAUTIFUL BEING FOOTAGE.

IT IS WITH DEEPEST AND GREATEST REGRET THAT I INFORM MY PATIENTS THAT I WILL TEMPORARILY CLOSE MY CLINIC NOT ONLY FOR THE LIVES OF MY CHILDREN.

AND PATIENTS WERE THREATENED TODAY, BUT MINE AS WELL.

I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT IF MY OUTPATIENT CLINIC IS STILL OPEN TOMORROW, THAT I WILL BE ARRESTED AND MY LICENSE TO PRACTICE MEDICINE WILL BE REVOKED.

IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS TO ME, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I FOUGHT FOR MY FELLOW FILIPINOS TO HAVE CHOICES IN THEIR HEALTH CARE.

I LOVE MY PATIENTS SO MUCH.

I HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER TO THE SICK WITHOUT MY INVENTIONS.

EVERYTHING NOW, FROM THIS DAY ON IS IN THE HANDS OF THE LORD.

I LEAVE IT ALL TO THE LORD, PSALM 23 SAYS.

EVEN THOUGH I WALK THROUGH THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH, I WILL FEAR NO EVIL.

FOR YOU ARE WITH ME.

YOUR ROD AND YOUR STAFF, THEY COMFORT ME.

MY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT WILL STILL BE OPEN AND MY BOOK WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE MASSES.

I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO GUIDE THE SECT THROUGH MY ADVISORS AND I'M STILL AVAILABLE FOR CONVENTIONS.

AT LAST, I WANT MY SUPPORTERS TO KNOW THAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE THE SICK.

THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT LEFT.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. AT THE END OF THAT VIDEO, I SCROLL DOWN TO POSTS AND IT SHOWS YOU CLICK ON DR.

FERA CANCER CENTER AND IT SHOWS THAT SHE'S NOW CLOSED.

SO IF YOU GO TO THAT PAGE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO JUST TYPE IN HASHTAG BOSTON, SEE ON FACEBOOK, SHE'S GOT HUNDREDS OF POSTS ON THERE.

AND THIS MEDICINE APPARENTLY CURES CANCER, NOT JUST ONE TYPE OF CANCER, BUT ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANCER.

AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

AND THE FDA OVER THERE, THEIR RESPONSE TO THAT WAS TO TELL HER, IF YOU STAY OPEN ONE MORE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO ARREST YOU.

SHE GOT DEATH THREATS AGAINST HER AND HER FAMILY.

AND THIS HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE MY SISTER IN LAW WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.

AND COME TO FIND OUT RIGHT AFTER SHE DIED BECAUSE MD ANDERSON SENT HER HOME THAT THIS EXISTS AND OTHER THINGS EXIST THAT DON'T KILL THE PATIENT.

IT'S A BIG DEAL. I'VE BEEN ASKING THIS BODY FOR HELP ON THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW, AND I'VE GOTTEN ZERO ENGAGEMENT.

IT'S IT'S AN ISSUE I GUESS YOU ALL AREN'T ALLOWED TO TOUCH.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT OUR CONSTITUTION IS IMPORTANT AND THAT WE HAVE A RIGHT THAT

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AND SO WHEN A DOCTOR RECOMMENDS A CERTAIN PROTOCOL, WE GOT TO BELIEVE THEM.

AND SO THIS DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A LADY WHO WAS LYING? WAS SHE LYING UP THERE? ANYBODY MISTRUST HER? SO WHY ISN'T THIS SOMETHING WE CAN INVESTIGATE? WELL, IS THERE A WAY THAT Y'ALL CAN START LOOKING INTO THIS STUFF FOR US IN 23? I APPRECIATE. NOT US NOT BEING SINGLED OUT AND HAVING TO GIVE OUR ADDRESSES WHEN Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY TIME OR EVER.

IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE JUDICIARY BRANCH, BUT IS THERE A WAY WE CAN GET YOU ALL TO INVESTIGATE THIS STUFF AND SEE AND ACTUALLY LOOK INTO IT IN A PUBLIC WAY, IN A TRANSPARENT WAY? YOU CAN'T RECITES ANY POLICY.

YOU CAN'T PUT SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA FOR A FUTURE MEETING.

WHAT POINT OF INFORMATION.

BUT IT'S EATING YOUR TIME, SO I'LL BE QUICK.

BUT THE CITY OF DENTON DOES NOT HAVE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

WE RELY ON THE COUNTY HEALTH DIRECTOR.

OKAY. AND SO WHERE.

WHERE DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO? TRY TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS AT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT? THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY PROVIDED.

NO, I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT IF IF IT WERE ME, I'D CONTACT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY AND BE IGNORED BY THEM SOME MORE.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES WHO WHO WERE COUNTING ON.

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONES AVAILABLE FOR THIS.

AND JUST BECAUSE YOU ALL SAY THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

WELL, I'LL JUST TELL YOU THIS.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE OTHERS, BECAUSE MY DAD SPENT 21 YEARS PROTESTING THE MONUMENT AND THAT SAME ORGANIZATION.

AND ULTIMATELY HE WAS SUCCESSFUL.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE BEEN AT IT A YEAR, BUT MY DAD WAS AT IT FOR ABOUT 23 YEARS AGO.

I HAD 2000 HOURS UNPAID IN THIS.

SO. SO AND I'VE BEEN AT IT FULL TIME SINCE THEN.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL WHEN SOMEBODY DIES.

AND IT IS.

AND I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Residential 7 (R7) to Public Facilities (PF) District on approximately 15.14 acres of land generally located on the south side of Riney Road, approximately 560 feet east of Bonnie Brae Street, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [7-0] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Smith and second by Commissioner Anderson.]

AND SO WE HAVE ONE.

AND THAT'S Z220020.

A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, REGARDING A CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM RESIDENTIAL 7R7 TO PUBLIC FACILITIES DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 15.14 ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RHONY ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 560 FEET EAST OF BONNIE BRAE STREET IN THE CITY OF DENTON, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS.

AND I'M JULIE WYATT, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF DENTON, AND I AM PRESENTING A ZONING CASE.

Z 20 2-0020.

A RAINY ELEMENTARY TO THIS EVENING.

AND LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I'M GOING TO NOTE THAT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.

THANK YOU. SO THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES FROM OUR SEVEN TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING DISTRICT.

THAT'S THAT DISTRICT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF RINEY ROAD.

AND IT IT HAS KIND OF AN UNUSUAL SHAPE IN THAT IT DOES ALSO CONNECT TO BONNIE BRAE.

SO IT'S THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE OUTLINED IN BLACK AND THEN YELLOW ON THIS AERIAL.

SO NASD ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY IN 2020, AND UNDER ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS, A PUBLIC SCHOOL WOULD BE PERMITTED.

HOWEVER, THIS THIS REZONING IS REALLY JUST TO ALIGN TO OUR OUR TYPICAL POLICY FOR PROPERTIES THAT THAT DO ARE OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, AND THAT IS THAT PUBLIC FACILITY ZONING.

IT ALSO WOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE APPLY APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR IT.

SO IF THIS WAS APPROVED, THE COLOR OF THE MAP WOULD CHANGE FROM THIS.

BROWN THE R SEVEN TO THE BLUE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

THE APPROVAL CRITERIA FOR ANY REZONING CASES IN SUBCHAPTER TWO OF THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.

STAFF HAS ANALYZED THE REQUEST AND HAS DETERMINED THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, AND THAT INCLUDES CONSISTENCY WITH THE DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, AND ALSO PROVIDES THAT ADDITIONAL SCHOOL CAPACITY NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE OUR STUDENT GROWTH IN THAT PART OF TOWN. JUST BRIEFLY, ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO OUR DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS MODERATE RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT'S THAT ORANGE YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS THAT RED STAR KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP IN THIS CATEGORY, WHILE WE TYPICALLY SEE IT FOR MAYBE THOSE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THOSE DENSITIES UP TO 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

IT ALSO INCLUDES LAND USES THAT SUPPORT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SCHOOLS SO THAT PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN TERMS OF THE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

ADDITIONALLY, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO TALKS ABOUT EDUCATION.

DENTON ISD RECENTLY SHARED WITH THIS THAT THEY'RE THE NUMBER ONE GROWING, FASTEST GROWING SCHOOL DISTRICT WITHIN NORTH TEXAS, AND SO THEY NEED ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS AND ADDITIONAL

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AND SO THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR HOUSING GOALS AND THAT IT DOES MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE THE LIVABILITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THOSE ADEQUATE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

SO NOTIFICATION WAS SENT OUT FOR THE REQUEST, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THAT WAS A CARD OR A A AN OPPOSITION WITH THE WITH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND THEN THREE IN FAVOR AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DENTON ISD IS ALSO HERE THIS EVENING.

IF IF, IF HE NEEDS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND COUNCILOR MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M JUST CURIOUS.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE REASON FOR THE ONE PERSON WHO VOICED OPPOSITION WAS? IF YOU DON'T, IT'S REALLY OK.

NO, THERE WAS BACKGROUND INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT, AND THAT IS CONCERNS ABOUT OUR RINEY ROAD.

RINEY ROAD IS IS WHEN A COMMUNITY HAS GROWING PAINS, IT KIND OF CAN SOMETIMES GROW OR GET IMPROVED, MAYBE IN AN UNEVEN WAY.

AND SO THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT RINEY ROAD.

I DID WANT TO MENTION IT.

WE DO HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT THE CITY IS ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH DENTON ISD TO IMPROVE RINEY ROAD FROM BONNIE BRAY TO THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE THAT IMPROVEMENT IN THE FUTURE.

I KNOW OUR CITY MANAGEMENT OFFICE IS WORKING ON THAT AS WELL, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT AT SOME POINT WE GET THAT CAPACITY IN THAT AREA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU BET.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYONE WOULD CARE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME DOWN.

GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE 4 MINUTES TO DO SO.

SEEING ANYONE.

OK OUR CODES CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM I MOVE APPROVAL AND COUNCILWOMAN MCGEE I SECOND MOST OF OUR MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE DISCUSSION.

I'LL JUST SAY DURING THE DISCUSSION PORTION THAT I THANK JULIE FOR POINTING IT OUT.

BUT THE CITY MANAGER AND DR.

WILSON GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

WE'VE LEARNED A LOT SINCE RYAN HIGH SCHOOL AND HOW WE PLACE THE SCHOOL AND DIDN'T SINK UP.

AND WE'VE BEEN SINKING UP EVER CLOSER EVER SINCE.

AND SO TO THAT END, BONNIE BRAE WILL BE REDONE BY THE TIME THIS SCHOOL OPENS, AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE SUPERINTENDENT HAVE MADE A KIND OF SET A PATH FORWARD TO COMPLETE THE RAINY ROAD SEGMENT.

IF YOU'VE DRIVEN IT, IT DOES GIVE YOU CONCERN THERE IS NOT A SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND YOU HAVE A PLAY OR A PROGRAM, THERE'S LOTS OF CARS THAT NORMALLY DESCEND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISPERSE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, HERE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.

SO BUT WE DO HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PARK RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

SO WE'LL HAVE KIND OF A PARK AND A NEAT LITTLE WALK UP.

AND I REALLY ENVISION THAT.

SO IT'LL BE REALLY UNIQUE THAT YOU CAN PARK AT THE PARK AND WALK YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENT UP TO SCHOOL THROUGH THIS TRAIL.

AND I THINK THAT'LL BE A REALLY COOL EXPERIENCE FOR PARENTS AND STUDENTS ALIKE AND KIND OF GET GET US THINKING DIFFERENT.

SO THANKS TO STAFF HER AND DISD FOR BEING CREATIVE IN THEIR SOLUTIONS AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE'RE SEVEN YEARS OUT.

BUT BUT THAT'S KIND OF THOSE THOUGHTS AND ARE IN PROCESS.

COUNCIL MEMBER IS A DISCUSSION.

YES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, WORKING, WATCHING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY WORKED TOGETHER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED WAS THAT OVER ON UNIVERSITY DRIVE DID THAT ISD HAD SOME SPACE THERE AND NEAR THAT NEW AUTO ZONE WHERE IT WAS MOVED.

AND WE'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS TWO NEW BUSINESSES COMING UP THERE.

SO DID NASD AND THE CITY WORKED IT WHERE THAT RAINY ROAD SPACE IS, WAS THE CITY PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT AREA HAD A SCHOOL IN IT AND ALSO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BROUGHT NEW, NEW BUSINESSES TO COME IN AND WORK.

SO THERE'S SOME REALLY NEAT THINGS HAPPENING.

AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS FOR WATCHING OVER US LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. OK ANY OTHER ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MAYOR PRO TEM, I SEE YOU.

I COUNCILMAN MCGEE I COUNCILMAN BERT MAYOR HUDSPETH AS I AS WELL PASSES FOUR ZERO.

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[6. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

I JUST WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THAT I AM GOING TO HAVE MY END OF THE YEAR.

I CALL IT THE END OF TERM TOWN HALL MEETING FOR DISTRICT ONE, REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE.

I'LL BE AT EMILY FOWLER LIBRARY ON TUESDAY, JANUARY THE 17TH, WHICH IS NEXT TUESDAY, AND WE'LL START CONVERSATING AT 6 P.M..

SO I'M GOING TO HAVE MY END OF THE TERM TOWN HALL MEETING AT EMILY FOWLER LIBRARY BEGINNING AT 6:00 PM ON JANUARY THE 17TH.

I HOPE YOU ALL CAN MAKE IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO TOUCH ON.

ONE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE OPENED TODAY, SO I'D ASK EVERYONE TO ADVOCATE, REACH OUT TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, COMMUNICATE WHAT YOU'D EXPECT THEM TO DO.

OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE A SURPLUS THIS YEAR.

MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD ON THOSE ITEMS. UNT FRISCO HAS A RIBBON CUTTING THIS WEEK, SO THAT'S EXCITING AS WE KIND OF AS THAT INSTITUTION GROWS AND HOPEFULLY BRINGS MORE TALENT TO THIS TO THIS AREA, THEN MY MY DEAR FRIEND HIGH SCHOOL, HE WAS OLDER AND I THINK HE GRADUATED 88, SO A FEW YEARS AHEAD OF ME.

BUT JAY POWELL, HE'S ASSISTANT CITY, HE'S ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF IN LEWISVILLE, PASSED AWAY.

AND SO HIS SERVICES ARE FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK, BUT HE'LL BE MISSED.

AND SO HIS WIFE RHONDA AND HIS FAMILY AND HIS THOSE THAT HE SERVED WITH IN LEWISVILLE PD WILL BE THERE TO TO SUPPORT THEM ON FRIDAY.

AND THEN TEXAS VETERAN'S HALL OF FAME.

THEY WERE HERE TONIGHT. THEY HAVE OUR APPRECIATION DINNER COMING UP SO YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP, CALL BACK TO THE PAST.

YOU CAN GOOGLE IT. TEXAS VETERAN'S HALL OF FAME AND THEN MLCS DAY WILL HAPPEN BEFORE WE GET BACK.

SO THERE'S MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR PROGRAM AT MARTIN LUTHER KING REC CENTER.

SO YOU CAN 330 ON THAT MONDAY THE 16TH.

SO YOU CAN LOOK THAT UP ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND ON THE ON THE RECREATION CENTER WEBSITE.

AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM.

AND I DO BELIEVE REVEREND REGINALD LOGAN WILL BE BRINGING THE MESSAGE.

SO THAT'LL BE THAT'LL BE FANTASTIC.

SO WITH THAT, IT IS 718 AND WE'LL ADJOURN TONIGHT'S MEETING.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.