Feb 07, 2023 City Council on 2023-02-07 2:00 PM

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

[WORK SESSION]

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE THING REALLY QUICK THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT OR JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT VOLUNTEERED HELPED.

WE HAD STAFF WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK, MULTIPLE SHIFTS STAGED IN HOTELS, ETC.

DURING THIS LAST WINTER STORM EVENT.

AND JUST I WANT TO POINT OUT, IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THE INCREASED COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FROM FROM BOB, OUR EMERGENCY STAFF PERSON, ETC..

SO JUST REALLY A GREAT JOB ALL THE WAY ROUND OF ONE COMMUNICATING TO RESPONDING.

AND SO I WANT TO SAY THANKS AND JUST HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE TO HAVE A MUNICIPAL OWNED UTILITY AND HOW THEY PERFORMED AND MAKING SURE TREES WERE TRIMMED EARLY AS A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY OF THOSE ISSUES HERE.

AND AND NOT TO SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE SOME, BUT THEY WERE THEY WERE RESOLVED WITHIN A COUPLE OF HOURS OR LESS.

AND I THINK THAT'S PHENOMENAL IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S HARD JUST TO GET AROUND, MUCH LESS GET AROUND, GET IT ON THE LADDER.

ALL THOSE THINGS THAT.

FROM POLICE FIRE DMS. JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT DID THOSE THINGS HELPS WITH THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ETC.

BUT ESPECIALLY LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO IMPROVE THIS FIRST TIME IT HAPPENED SINCE YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENT THING, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE AND AND I THINK NOW IS THAT TIME TO REFLECT BACK AND LOOK AT LIKE THE CITY MANAGER IS DOING IN THE AFTER ACTION REPORT AND SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO REFINE OUR RESPONSE TO THESE THINGS. SO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES BACK.

BUT JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THAT SACRIFICE.

THE ED HOME STATE I MEAN, STAYED AWAY FROM HOME OR HOTELS OR WHATEVER.

WHAT ALL HOWEVER THE SAUSAGE IS MADE.

I'M GRATEFUL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

THAT TAKES US TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCILMAN

[2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda.]

THIS IS ON THE REFUNDING BONDS.

BUT I WANT TO. I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY.

HI, RANDY KLEIN, GOLD TREASURY MANAGER.

HI, RANDY. SO FOR THESE THESE REFUNDING BONDS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST SORT OF PROVIDE MANAGEMENT LIQUIDITY TO GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO FULFILL THE MISSION OF THE 2019 BONDS.

BUT IS IS IS THIS ECP AUTHORITY? IS IT LIMITED TO JUST THE AT LEAST FOR THIS ITEM? IS IT LIMITED TO JUST ITEMS RELATED TO THE 2019 BOND PACKAGE OR IT'S THE 100 IS SORT OF GENERALLY AVAILABLE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS WAS THE UTILITY ECB AND WHICH WAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER.

AND SO I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES, THAT THEY'RE VERY TARGETED.

BUT I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE NOT SORT OF FLEXIBLE AROUND THE EDGES.

NO, THEY ARE TARGETED FOR THE 2019 PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FALLS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM AND ALL THE PROPOSITIONS WITHIN IT.

AND SO FOR THIS THING THAT YOU'RE SEEKING AUTHORITY FOR, IT WON'T BE USED FOR OTHER I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S NO FLEXIBILITY AROUND THE EDGES.

IT CAN ONLY BE TIED TO THINGS ON THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

THAT IS OUR INTENT. YES.

OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MARY. I NEED TO JUST PULL ITEM E FOR A RECUSAL, PLEASE.

AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ITEM D, AND I CAN EITHER WAIT FOR THE PARKS PERSON OR QUEUE IT UP WHILE THEY'RE COMING DOWN THE HALLWAY OC D D IT'S ON THE CHAPTER 22 CODE OF ORDINANCES.

BEES AND DOG DAYS AND DOG.

OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL LET THEM GET HERE.

GARY IS HERE NOW. SO MY QUESTION IS ON ITEM D, CAN WE HEAR JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROCESS? I MEAN, IT'S IT'S QUITE A BIT OF REVISION.

IT'S A IT'S A LOT OF BROAD REVISION.

SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH FEES AND SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH COMMITTEES AND SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW WE TREAT DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT THINGS.

CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS CAME ABOUT AND THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO IT SO FAR? IT'S JUST KIND OF UNUSUAL THAT WE GET BIG REVISIONS, BROAD REVISIONS TO AN ENTIRE CHAPTER OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, STRAIGHT FROM A COMMITTEE READY TO GO ON A CONSENT AGENDA. OK GARY PACKAN, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

SO IN REVIEWING OUR CHAPTER, WE REALIZED THERE WAS SOME WORDING IN THERE THAT WAS DATED AND IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED ON A REGULAR BASIS FROM

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SOME SOME CLARIFICATION ON OUR PARK LAND DEDICATION DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.

DURING THAT PROCESS WE HAD SET THE KIND OF THE LINE IN THE SAND FOR ONCE YOU SUBMITTED YOUR PRELIMINARY PLAT, THEN YOU WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN FOR THE 1998 FEES. WE ADDED THAT IN HERE JUST TO PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION.

THAT WAS DONE. AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED WOLF'S PARK AND RAZOR RANCH PARK AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ALCOHOL SINCE WE PLAN TO HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS OUT THERE, WHETHER IT'S A DOG PARK OR IT RAZOR RANCH FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, MUSICAL ENTERTAINMENT, THAT TYPE OF THING.

JUST ON THE PROCESS SIDE, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S THE PARKS PARKS BOARD THAT LOOKED AT THIS, DID THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS? WAS IT JUST ONE ONE MEETING? CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? WE DID TAKE IT TO PARK BOARD.

WE HAD ONE MEETING IN REGARDS TO UPDATING OF THAT OF THE ORDINANCE CHAPTER 22, AND THEY SUPPORTED THE APPROVALS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING WHAT'S.

BUT. ALL RIGHT.

SORRY. I HAD A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY THERE.

I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE MAYOR PRO TEM QUESTION ON AGENDA ITEM F, JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZING HERE.

IF IF STAFF COULD JUST GIVE A REALLY BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WITHOUT THIS, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS THAT WOULD HAVE TO WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS STAFF IS USING THE EXTENDABLE COMMERCIAL PAPER TO FINANCE SHORT TERM SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ON THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THE COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM IS VERY TEMPORARY.

I MEAN, IT'S 90 DAYS OR 100 DAYS OR I FORGOT HOW MANY IT IS OR WHAT IT CAN GO UP TO.

AND SO EVENTUALLY THOSE COMMERCIAL PAPER LOANS HAVE TO BE REFINANCED WITH LONG TERM GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? RANDY COLANGELO, AGAIN, TREASURY MANAGER.

CURRENTLY, THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM IS TO USE IT AS CONTRACT APPROPRIATION BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE FUNDS IN-HOUSE, SOMETIMES TO INITIATE THOSE CONTRACTS WITH COUNCIL. SO WE USE THE $100 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS PROGRAM EXCUSE ME, COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM TO SUPPORT THOSE PURCHASES.

WE'VE NEVER HAD TO ISSUE ACTUAL NOTES FOR THAT.

AND SO THE NOTES, IF WE EVER INTENDED TO NEED TO ACTUALLY USE THE CASH, IT'S SHORT TERM FINANCING.

SO WE COULD ISSUE ANY OF THE NOTES UP TO $100 MILLION AND HAVE THAT CASH ON HAND.

AND WE'D HAVE TO DIFFUSE THAT IN 270 DAYS.

THAT'S THE MAXIMUM.

AND IF WE CANNOT DO THAT, THEN WE ROLL IT OVER INTO LONG TERM BONDS.

BUT IF WE DID NOT HAVE THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DEFER TO NICK OR BUDGET OR WHAT THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WOULD BE TO GET THAT CASH.

WELL, IT WASN'T SO MUCH A QUESTION I DON'T THINK ABOUT, AND MAYBE I MISHEARD THE ANSWER, BUT IT WASN'T SO MUCH ABOUT THE ECP PROGRAM.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO FOLLOW UP.

DID YOU SAY THAT WE HAVE OR HAVE NOT UTILIZED THAT PROGRAM FOR THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM? WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY CASH NOTES FOR THIS.

WE HAVE USED IT AS APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY FOR ONE CONTRACT, BUT WE HAVE NEVER ISSUED ACTUAL NOTES TO RECEIVE CASH FOR IT.

WE'VE ONLY DONE THAT ON THE UTILITY SIDE FOR STORM URI.

WE DID $140 MILLION FOR THAT AND WE ISSUED LONG TERM DEBT FOR THAT IN 2021.

BUT WE'VE ONLY USED CONTRACT APPROPRIATION FOR THE BOND PROGRAM.

SO, NO, THERE'S BEEN NO LOAN TAKEN OUT.

IT'S JUST HERE'S THE WE'VE GOT THE MONEY AVAILABLE SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT.

SO THEN IF THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY APPROPRIATION, THEN HOW WAS THE FUNDING RECEIVED TO COVER THOSE CONTRACTS WHEN THEY WERE FULFILLED? THEY HAD OTHER REVENUE STREAMS AND THE CONTRACTS USUALLY OVER A MULTI YEAR PERIOD.

SO AT SOME POINT WE MAY HAVE BOND PROCEEDS IN THE FUTURE TO PAY BACK THE PROGRAM OF WHAT IT WAS APPROPRIATED.

BUT THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER OTHER REVENUE STREAMS AT THAT.

BUT WE HAVE NOT ISSUED ANY NOTES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S SAY WE ISSUE JUST SORT OF HYPOTHETICALLY, WE ISSUE A COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTE THAT HAS TO BE DIFFUSED IN 270 DAYS TO FEES, MEANING

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SO IF WE DON'T IF SOMEHOW THIS AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER JUST TO ISSUE THESE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS BASED UPON THE PARAMETERS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? I GUESS YOU JUST HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL, GET BIDS FOR THE BONDS.

I MEAN, WHAT WHAT ARE WE WHAT STEPS ARE WE REALLY SAVING IN THE TIME? ARE WE REALLY SAVING WITH THIS COMPARED TO HOW WE WOULD DO IT WITHOUT IT? I'M NOT SURE IF WE ARE SAVING ANY TIME BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE THE DEBT EITHER WAY.

WE ARE JUST SHOWING THE APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY SO WE CAN GO INTO CONTRACT WHEN WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE CASH ON HAND.

SO WE WOULD INITIATE THE CONTRACT WITH THE APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY, HOPEFULLY ON THE AUSPICES THAT WE WOULD NEVER NEED THE ACTUAL CASH AND INITIATE THE PROGRAM.

BUT IF WE DID INITIATE THE CASH AND WE NEEDED IT, THEN IT WOULD FALL INTO OUR REGULAR BOND SALE PROGRAM AND GO OUT FOR BID WITH OUR OTHER BOND SALE ITEMS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

IT'S NOT THAT I HAVE A REAL HEARTBURN ABOUT THIS.

I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ABSOLUTE NEED, BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM PRIMARILY HAS BEEN USED FOR APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY.

YES, SIR. AND THAT WAS OUR INTENT.

RIGHT. AND SO THEN THE INTENT OF AND MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING SOMETHING.

STAFF IS ASKING FOR A DIFFERENT PROGRAM TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER, STAFF, WHOEVER DESIGNEE AUTHORITY TO SAY, OKAY, IF WE DO HAVE TO ISSUE A COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTE OF $50 MILLION, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO APPROVE THOSE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS TO DO FEES THAT SHORT TERM FINANCING INTO LONG TERM FINANCING.

IS THAT REALLY WHAT I SEE IS THE UNDERLYING KIND OF FOR THIS ITEM? YES, BECAUSE THE EXTENDABLE TYPE OF PROGRAM IS IN PLACE.

AND THEN ANNUALLY, WE HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK FOR YOU TO GIVE US THE PARAMETERS FOR ANOTHER YEAR OF THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE LEADERSHIP HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO AHEAD AND ISSUE THE NOTES KNOWING THAT WE WILL TURN IT INTO LONG TERM DEBT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GIVING US THE AUTHORITY TO DO.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? SO, COUNCILMEMBER WHITESNAKE, VINCENT INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF WE WERE TO ISSUE GEOS OR CEO'S TO REPAY THAT EXTENDABLE COMMERCIAL PAPER, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

RIGHT. AND SO AND THIS IS JUST PRIMARILY REFERENCING GEOS.

I MEAN, YOU SAID GEOS AND SEALS.

BUT THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS PRIMARILY FOR THE ABILITY TO ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL BASED UPON. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION. THERE'S TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THERE'S ONE FOR GEO PROJECTS OR PART OF THE 2019 BOND PROPOSITION, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE FOR THE UTILITY SYSTEMS. SO THESE PROGRAMS ALREADY EXIST AND THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACE.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO RENEW THAT AGREEMENT THAT IS IN PLACE AND GIVE US THAT AUTHORITY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ME OR MAYBE I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER TO DRINK, BUT I'M CONFUSED.

SO. AND ARE WE ARE WE ARE YOU ASKING FOR THE CREATION OF A NEW PROGRAM IN THIS SENSE OF GIVING THE CITY MANAGER AUTHORITY TO ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WITHOUT COMING BEFORE COUNCIL TO THE FEES? COMMERCIAL PAPER LOANS? OR IS THIS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE? AND WE'RE JUST THAT YOU'RE JUST ASKING US TO RENEW IT.

I'M CONFUSED ON THAT.

SO, COUNCILMEMBER, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO THIS IS NOT A NEW PROGRAM.

THIS IS AN EXISTING PROGRAM THAT HELPS US WITH THE APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY TO GET THE PROJECTS DONE IN THE 2019 BOND PROPOSITION.

SO IN ADVANCE OF ISSUING THOSE BONDS, WE CAN ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT UP TO THE SPECIFIED DAYS THAT RANDY HAD MENTIONED TO GET THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS STARTED.

WE WERE AT A LATER DATE REIMBURSE OURSELVES.

THROUGH A BOND ISSUE, IT'S A BOND ISSUANCE FOR THOSE EXPENSES.

OKAY. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE MY MAY I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WHEN I'M READING THE AGENDA INFORMATION SHEET ON THE.

AFTER BACKGROUND IS THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.

IT SAYS, ALONG WITH AUTHORIZING THE EXTENDED COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM.

IT IS NECESSARY TO ANNUALLY ADOPT A GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BOND ORDINANCE.

THE REFUNDING BONDS SOLD WOULD BE USED TO PAY OFF THE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT REFUNDING BOND ORDINANCE ALREADY EXISTS AND WE'RE JUST RENEWING IT? THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR, IT ALREADY EXISTS.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.

APOLOGIZE, MAYOR, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO IF.

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NO PRESENTATION, JUST TO BE FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TWO CLOSED SESSION ITEMS FIRST.

AND SO WE'LL SET THE ROOM FOR THAT.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW AT 2:15 P.M., CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE

[1. Closed Meeting:]

ID TWO, THREE, THREE, FOUR.

PARDON ME. I NEED TO 3 TO 3 FOR DELIBERATION REGARDING CERTAIN PUBLIC POWER UTILITIES COMPETITIVE MATTERS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.086. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551071 AND ITEM B, WHICH IS ID 23236. DELIBERATION REGARDING CERTAIN PUBLIC POWER UTILITIES COMPETITIVE MATTERS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551086. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS ON THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551071.

CITY COUNCIL IS NOW RECONVENED FROM THE CLOSED SESSION AT 2:40 P.M.

AND NOTE THAT NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN.

SO THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION REPORT AND THAT'S ITEM A, WHICH IS ID

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give direction regarding the Electric FY 2022-23 Budget and Rates. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

FY 2022 23 BUDGET RATES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS NICK VINCENT AND OUR OWN FINANCE DIRECTOR.

LET ME GET THE PRESENTATION PULLED UP.

SO YOU HAD ME FOR SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS TODAY, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE EXCITED.

SO LET ME SHARE THIS FULL SCREEN HERE.

MOVE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WATCH OVER HERE.

I CAN SEE. OK.

SO AN OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION.

WHAT ARE WE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY? WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2022, END OF YEAR SUMMARY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 FINANCIALS.

GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ABOUT WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS FAR AS TRENDS MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT MID-YEAR RATE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON SOME RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS FUND AND THEN TALK ABOUT SOME UPCOMING DISCUSSIONS.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, WE'VE TAKEN THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES FROM THE PRO FORMA AND WE REALLY WANTED TO ISOLATE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN BUDGET ADOPTION AND THE END OF YEAR ACTUALS FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR.

SO AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, I'M SURE FISCAL YEAR 2022 ENDED LAST SEPTEMBER EXCUSE ME, THE NEW FISCAL YEAR STARTED IN OCTOBER.

SO THIS IS HOW WE ENDED THAT FISCAL YEAR.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR BASE RATE REVENUE FOR DEBT, MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC EXCEEDED BUDGET ABOUT $10 MILLION.

THIS WAS DUE TO INCREASE GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY INCREASE DEMAND ON THE ELECTRIC UTILITY JUST INCREASED DEVELOPMENT RIGHT GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS UTILITY AND GREAT GREAT THINGS. SO WE DO THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS YEAR.

IT COULD BE TRENDING UPWARDS.

SO SOME ROOM FOR MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO THE 2023 PROJECTIONS.

ALSO, ANOTHER THING THAT PROBABLY STANDS OUT IN HERE, YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS ON NON RATE REVENUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022.

WE DID IN $50.9 MILLION ABOVE BUDGET.

WHAT IS THAT FOR? TWO MAIN THINGS.

FIRST, THE DEC RAN MORE THAN ORIGINALLY BUDGETED, SO WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN THAT FACILITY MORE.

IT REALLY HELPED OUT THIS FUNDED BUNCH AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

SECOND THING WAS, IS THE SALE OF THE TAMPA COAL MINE FACILITY.

WE GOT ABOUT 15 MILLION IN REVENUE LAST FISCAL YEAR FOR THE SALE OF THAT FACILITY PURCHASE POWER MOVING DOWN TO EXPENSES YOU CAN SEE EXCEEDED BUDGET ABOUT 38 MILLION. THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAS TO OFFSET THE EXPENSE OF PURCHASING POWER FOR CUSTOMERS.

AND THEN ALSO THE DECK FUEL COSTS ARE RUNNING THAT FACILITY MORE THAN ORIGINALLY BUDGETED.

AND WE'LL LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AGAIN IN THE FINANCIAL FORECAST.

BUT WE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THESE BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPORTANT.

SO OVERALL, THE FUND FINISHED ABOUT 17.8 MILLION BETTER THAN WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED IN THE BUDGET.

SO GREAT NEWS FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC.

I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THESE BULLET POINTS, BUT I DID WANT TO PROVIDE A BRIEF RECAP FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE ORIGINAL ASSUMPTIONS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

SO YOU MAY BE ASKING NICK, WHAT'S DIFFERENT IN THE 2023 ESTIMATE? WHAT HAVE YOU UPDATED TODAY THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US? SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE THAT ARE UNDERLYING HERE IN THIS RIGHT IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE BOTH OF OUR RIGHTS IS THE NON RATE REVENUE HAS BEEN UPDATED.

WE DISCUSSED THIS IN CLOSED SESSION SHORTLY AGO.

WE'VE UPDATED THE DATA CENTER REVENUE BASED ON SOME RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN WE REVISE THE DATA CENTER EXPENSES.

SO I'LL POINT THOSE OUT TO YOU IN THE GENERAL FORM WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THEIR PRO FORMA HERE SHORTLY.

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IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU WANT ME TO SLOW DOWN, NOT TALK AS FAST, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SLOW DOWN.

SO FOR 2022.

SO FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, WE JUST ENDED.

WE HAD BUDGETED ABOUT A $4.9 MILLION NET INCOME LAST FISCAL YEAR.

WE ENDED UP FINISHING THE YEAR ABOUT 22.7 MILLION POSITIVE.

SO JUST ABOUT $18 MILLION BETTER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED.

SO THE FUND BALANCE, RIGHT? WHERE DOES THE FUND BALANCE? IN THE FISCAL YEAR, WE ENDED ABOUT 140.7 MILLION.

SO WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO ADD ABOUT 122 MILLION.

WE ENDED UP FINISHING ABOUT 140 MILLION WITH A FUND BALANCE.

PROBABLY ASKING, WELL, HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO OUR RESERVE TARGETS? SO THE RESERVE TARGETS FOR THIS FUND, WHICH WERE INCREASED AFTER WINTER STORM URI OR 127 MILLION TO 190.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT DOWN HERE.

SO WE'RE WELL WITHIN THAT RESERVE TARGET AND IN FISCAL YEAR 2022.

SO MOVING INTO FISCAL YEAR 2023, THIS IS THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN.

WE HAD STARTED THIS YEAR THINKING THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE RESERVES OF 127.7 MILLION.

WE ACTUALLY STARTED WITH 140.7.

SO WE DID START THE YEAR A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.

THIS IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE GET TO TALKING ABOUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION HERE IN A SECOND AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO IN 2023, WE HAD PLANNED USE OF RESERVES.

YOU CAN SEE IT UP HERE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT 15.5 MILLION IN PLANNED USE OF RESERVES.

THIS WAS STRATEGIC AS WE CONTINUE THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE ELECTRIC UTILITY AND SOME DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

THAT WAS INTENTIONAL DRAWDOWN IN RESERVES NOW MOVING INTO 2023, BASED ON THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, WE HAVE MADE MINIMAL UPDATES TO THE FORECAST. SO WE HAVE UPDATED NON RATE REVENUE, WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE DATA CENTER REVENUE, THE TRANSMISSION OF COST TO SERVICE REVENUE AND SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS INTEREST INCOME AND SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT GOING FROM 251 TO 163.

MOVING DOWN TO EXPENSES, THE MAJORITY OF THE EXPENSES ARE EQUAL TO BUDGET.

WE ARE EARLY IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE UTILITY TO UPDATE THE UPDATE THE FINANCIALS, BUT WE DID GO AHEAD AND UPDATE PURCHASE POWER BASED ON RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DATA CENTER.

SO YOU CAN SEE PURCHASE POWER GOING FROM 234 TO 162 AND ALSO INCREASE SOME DECK EXPENSES IN THERE ALSO.

SO USE OF RESERVES ACTUALLY PLANNING TO USE ABOUT 29 MILLION IN RESERVES COMPARED TO THE BUDGET OF 15.5.

MOVING DOWN THE PAGE, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE CURRENTLY ANTICIPATING TO FINISH THE YEAR ABOUT 111.7 MILLION IN RESERVES.

THIS IS BELOW THE RESERVE TARGET OF 128 MILLION FOR THE CURRENT YEAR.

WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING A MIDYEAR RATE INCREASE BASED ON INCREASED SALES FORECASTS.

WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR THE SALES PROJECTION.

WE FINISHED LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, AT 100.9.

WE'RE CURRENTLY FORECASTING 95.7.

SO THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT COULD COME IN ABOVE BUDGET.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO YET TO BE DETERMINED WITH THIS PRO FORMA THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AS WE MOVE INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS.

NOW, ONE THING I WANT TO DO WANT TO SAY, AND I WANT TO SET THE STAGE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE WE DID THE SAME THING WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITY BOARD, IS WE DO HAVE PLANNED RATE INCREASES IN THE FUTURE FOR THIS UTILITY STARTING IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2026.

WE HAVE A 5% PLUGGED IN AT 24 OR 5%, 25 AND A 2% IN 26.

NOW WITH THOSE RATE INCREASES, THOSE RATE INCREASES ARE CURRENTLY TO THE ENERGY COST ADJUSTMENT RATE, WHICH IS ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE ENERGY OR ACA RATE.

THAT RATE IS CURRENTLY FLAT.

IT DOES NOT FLUCTUATE.

ONE THING WE ANTICIPATE DOING THIS SPRING AND THIS SUMMER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IS HAVING A DETAILED RATE DISCUSSION WITH YOU REGARDING DME RATES AND THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE HANDLED AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RATE FLUCTUATING WITH THE ENERGY PRICES IN THE MARKET.

SO MORE TO COME ON THAT JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE WITH YOU.

THESE RATE INCREASES MAY CHANGE IN THE FUTURE YEARS, BUT THE GOAL OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, EVERYBODY IS TO GET THE FIVE YEAR RESERVE TARGET OF THIS FUND ABOVE THE RESERVE REQUIREMENT.

SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE FIFTH YEAR, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 91.6 MILLION IN RESERVES, WITH THE RESERVE TARGET BEING 116 MILLION.

SO MORE TO COME ON THAT IN THE 2024 BUDGET DISCUSSION.

JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE WITH YOU TODAY.

SO CURRENTLY NO RATE RECOMMENDATION, NO MID-YEAR INCREASE FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC.

DID I GO THROUGH TOO FAST OR CUSTOMER MCGEE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME.

DO I GO TOO FAST? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

AND IF I HAD SAT ON MY FACE OR I WENT THERE TOO FAST, I DON'T KNOW.

SO RECOMMENDATIONS I JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS ON NO MAJOR RATE INCREASES FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC.

RELOOK AT IT AS PART OF THE 2024 BUDGETING PROCESS.

WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS COMING FORWARD TO YOU PRETTY SOON FROM THE FINANCIAL DISCUSSION.

WE DO HAVE THE NOTICE OF INTENT FOR THE BOND ISSUANCE OF 2023 AND BECOMING 40 IN MARCH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL PROGRAM NOW, EVALUATING THOSE PROJECTS.

WHICH ONES NEED TO GO FORWARD?

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WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE FINANCIAL FORECASTS IN THE COMING MONTHS.

I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER AND THEN READ ABOUT THOSE, REEVALUATE THOSE FUTURE RATE INCREASES IN THE FUTURE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.

UPCOMING FINANCIAL DISCUSSIONS.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY ONE OF THESE.

JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE THAT 2024 IS FASTLY APPROACHING, SO WE WILL START TALKING ABOUT THOSE BUDGETS AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGETS STARTING IN MAY WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITIES BOARD.

I THINK THE FIRST TIME WE GET IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL WITH A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT DISCUSSION IS IN JUNE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AGAIN THIS YEAR IN AUGUST.

AND MAYOR, I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

AND I HAVE JUST ONE REAL QUICK.

WHEN DOES THE WINTER STORM URI KIND OF DEBT FALL OFF? HOW MANY YEARS IS THAT? I FORGET HOW MANY YEARS THAT WAS SO THAT WE.

GOOD QUESTION. WE DID. I'M LOOKING TO SEE 20 YEAR WE DID 20 YEAR DEBT FOR THAT.

THE DEBT WE INCURRED FOR WINTER STORM URI.

IT IS INCLUDED IN THE FINANCIAL PRO FORMA THAT YOU SAW TODAY, THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE AND THAT IT'S ABOUT 7 MILLION A YEAR.

SO. GOT IT.

THANK YOU. GREAT, COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. NICK, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE THE ONE GIVING IT, BECAUSE PART OF WHAT MAKES THAT ALL WORK IS FISCAL POLICY.

I MEAN, A TON OF IT OBVIOUSLY IS DMN RUNNING A GOOD, EFFICIENT OPERATION AND THE EXCELLENT WORK THAT THEY DO OVER THERE, BUT ALSO THE FINANCE AND BUDGET OFFICE, WHEN YOU ALL BRING UP THOSE PRO FORMAS, THAT'S NOT OUR BACKGROUND.

IT MIGHT AS WELL BE GREEK SOME OF THE TIME.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GET OUT TO THOSE OUT YEARS AND YOU'RE TELLING US ABOUT TWEAKING THESE LITTLE THINGS AND HOW MUCH IS GOING TO CHANGE IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HOW YOU BRING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR US.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I SAY THAT TO SAY, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PREVIEW WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICITY WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS SUMMER? I GET THE BROAD STROKES ABOUT HOW HOW WE MANAGE, HOW WE SET THAT ISA RATE AND SOME POLICY CHOICES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE.

RIGHT. BUT I KNOW WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE PRO FORMAS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE TAX RATE OR THE UTILITY RATE, WE GET THOSE OUT YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.

IS THERE A WAY, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE CAN GROW OUR WAY OUT OF A NEED TO INCREASE RATES? OR IS IT JUST LIKE A SYSTEMIC THING THAT'S BUILT INTO THAT ISA THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS AT SOME POINT? SO, COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK.

I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY TO GROW YOUR WAY OUT OF ANYTHING WITHOUT RATE INCREASES.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE TODAY AND TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE RATE INCREASES.

I THINK THERE'S A NEED IN THIS UTILITY CURRENTLY BASED ON THE FINANCIALS TO INCREASE THE RATES IN THE FUTURE.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ELECTRIC.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR IT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN ALL THE UTILITIES, WATER, WASTEWATER AND NOT SO MUCH SOLID WASTE IS THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE NEED FOR THE UTILITIES AND RATE INCREASES, MAYBE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE TO START TALKING ABOUT.

BUT WE ALWAYS AWAY THE OPTION OF GROWTH, RIGHT? OF GROWTH OUTPACES THOSE RATE INCREASES.

BY ALL MEANS. WE WON'T BE BRINGING FORWARD RATE INCREASES AND LOOKING AT SARA, BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO BRING FORWARD THE RATE INCREASES IF WE DON'T NEED THEM. ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR, WHAT'S.

THEY'RE IN THE SPIRIT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

BRIEF APOLOGY. I DID NOT SEE THE LAST LINE OF THAT REFUNDING STAFF PRESENTATION THAT SAID PRIOR ACTION.

THAT WOULD HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

SO MY OVERSIGHT.

SORRY TO WASTE THEIR BASE.

I JUST WANTED TO.

WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

BUT ON TO THIS PRESENTATION.

QUESTION, NICK, ON THE I KNOW YOU SPLIT OUT THE DECK DEBT IN THE EXPENSES IS THE REVENUE FROM THE DECK IN THAT WHERE IS THAT EMBEDDED IN YOUR REVENUE.

LABELS. SO COUNSELOR WATCH.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PULL THE SLIDE BACK UP WITH THAT BE BEST? WELL, I KNOW THERE WERE THREE CATEGORIES.

THERE'S A RATE. THERE WAS PURCHASE POWER REVENUE, AND THEN THERE WAS THE NON REVENUE NON RATE REVENUE.

SO GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE DECK REVENUE IS INCLUDED IN NON RATE REVENUE.

SO FOR 2023 IT WAS 251.7 MILLION IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THE DECK EXPENSES.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DEBT SERVICE, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE DEBT SERVICE IS ISOLATED OR SEPARATED FROM, FROM OTHER DEBT SERVICE.

BUT THE DECK FUEL IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN PURCHASE POWER.

SO WE ISOLATE SOME OF THE EXPENSES FOR THE DECK, BUT NOT 100% OF THEM.

AND THEN TO FOLLOW UP ON THE MAYOR'S QUESTION ON THE.

WINTER STORM URI BOND ISSUANCE.

WHAT WAS THAT? I WASN'T ON COUNCIL.

WHAT WAS THAT TOTAL AMOUNT WAS? IT WAS OVER 100 MILLION, I THINK.

WHAT WAS THAT YOU RECALL.

I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR WIDES.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? YEAH. WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF THE DEBT ISSUED FOR THE STORM URI TO COVER ALL THOSE PURCHASE POWER EXPENSES?

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URI, YOU'RE JUST CURIOUS.

YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE INTEREST RATE WAS? NO, SIR, I DON'T.

I KNOW IT WAS DEFINITELY LOWER THAN IT IS NOW.

I KNOW INTEREST RATES HAVE COME UP, SO.

NO. OKAY. THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT PERCENT OR SOMETHING.

YEAH. I'D HATE TO SAY SOMETHING. YOU HOLD ME TO IT.

SO YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS DOWN THERE.

IT WAS BELOW THREE 3%.

DON'T QUOTE ME BUT YEAH. GREAT BEARS LOOKING AT ME.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY. NO, IT'S GOOD.

I HAVE TO SIGN THE PAPER. OKAY.

I HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T SHOW UP ON MY CREDIT THAT I THANK YOU, MARY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. WELL DONE. APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, YOU GOT ME AGAIN.

YOU'RE NOT GETTING RID OF ME YET. OKAY.

AND SO THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B.

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding a mid-year budget update. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING A MID-YEAR BUDGET UPDATE.

OK. I WILL WALK US THROUGH THIS.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE STAFF FROM DEPARTMENTS HERE.

I SEE SCOTT OVER THERE STARING AT ME.

WE'LL HAVE THE POLICE CHIEF HERE IN A SECOND ALSO TO TALK ABOUT SOME MID-YEAR POSITION REQUESTS.

SO I'LL GET STARTED TO THIS.

NICK VINCENT, INTERIM FINANCE DIRECTOR, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS HERE SHORTLY.

LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN ACCOUNTS OF WHAT'S.

OKAY. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT JUST REALLY QUICK THE OBJECTIVE OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE 2022 REVENUE, HOW THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED FOR THE VARIOUS FUNDS IN THE CITY.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE GENERAL FUND AND OTHER FUNDS ALSO.

SO INCLUDING THE UTILITIES.

I KNOW WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WATER, WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE YET.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.

WE'LL LOOK AT THE END OF YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST, LOOK AT SOME MID-YEAR POSITION REQUESTS.

SO WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL PLANNING OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POSITIONS, SOME ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HERE TO SPEAK TO THOSE HERE SHORTLY.

SO THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S CONVERSATION.

SO WHY ARE WE HERE TO PROVIDING YOU A MID-YEAR UPDATE.

SO REALLY, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU MIDYEAR ON A PERIODIC BASIS TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE FINISH THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, HOW WE'RE DOING THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, AND ANY TRENDS THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE DIFFERENT FUNDS.

SO IT'S A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION MEANT TO BE INFORMATIVE.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE ANSWER THEM.

IF NOT, I'LL CALL CASSIE UP HERE TO ANSWER SOME DIFFICULT QUESTIONS TOO.

SO, BUT YEAH, WE'LL LOOK AT THE 2022 END OF YEAR ESTIMATE AND WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENTS HERE IN A SECOND.

I THINK ULTIMATELY SOME GOOD NEWS TO SHARE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE STRONG SALES TAX COLLECTION IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

SOME FORECAST.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION A LITTLE BIT.

THE CITY CONTINUES TO SEE STRONG PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION, ABOUT A 98% COLLECTION RATE.

AND OF COURSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, DRIVING AROUND TOWN, DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO BE STRONG.

SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS DEFINITELY PERFORMING WELL.

SO PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION.

SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, SO ENDING LAST SEPTEMBER, WE COLLECTED 79.8 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

THE BUDGET WAS 81.5, SO ABOUT 98% COLLECTION.

SO VERY STRONG PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION, SALES TAX.

I BELIEVE EVERYBODY IN THE STREET IS FAMILIAR WITH IT.

BUT THE CITY DID EXCEED BUDGETED SALES TAX COLLECTION BY $7 MILLION LAST FISCAL YEAR.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

WE DID SEE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

SO RETURN ON INVESTMENT COMING INTO THE GENERAL FUND EXCEEDED BUDGET ABOUT 1.3 MILLION THAT WAS RELATED TO THE CITY UTILITIES PERFORMING WELL.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU HERE IN A SECOND.

AND WE DO SEE STRONG LICENSE AND PERMIT REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY.

SO WE'VE SEEN THIS PLENTY OF TIMES DURING THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE FAVORITE SLIDES THAT WE SHOW.

JUST WANTED TO REALLY BRIEFLY SHOW YOU A SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE.

SO FOR 2022, YOU CAN SEE THE BUDGET WAS ABOUT 45 MILLION WE DID IN THE YEAR, WHICH IS THIS YELLOW BAR HERE, ABOUT 52 MILLION.

FOR 2023, THE BUDGET, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 54 MILLION IS WHAT'S BUDGETED.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

AND I WENT AHEAD AND PUT THE YEAR TO DATE NUMBER ON HERE AND WANTED TO BRING THIS UP TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR EXCUSE ME FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WE'RE 800,000 OVER BUDGET.

SO SALES TAX DATA HAS A TWO MONTHS LAG.

WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN SALES TAX INFORMATION FOR DECEMBER.

WE SHOULD GET THAT ANY TIME.

BUT FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS WE'RE 800,000 OVER BUDGET.

SO VERY GOOD NEWS FOR THE CITY.

UM, EXPENSES WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE EXPENSES INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 WILL NOT GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ITEM HERE, BUT I DEFINITELY WILL HIT THE HIGH, HIGH LEVEL ITEMS. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH YOU LAST YEAR AND GARY WAS HERE EARLIER, WE DID HAVE SOME PART POSITION.

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AND THEN SKIPPING DOWN A FEW LINES HERE, WE DID TRANSFER 15.1 MILLION TO THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND.

SO CONTINUING TO TRANSFER THOSE FRANCHISE FEES OVER TO THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND.

I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ROADWAY FUNDING STRATEGY WITH CASSIE AND BECKY AND SO FORTH.

SO STRONG AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING TO THAT FUND.

WE DID TRANSFER 500,000 TO SUSTAINABILITY.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

AND THEN WE DID HAVE SOME ONE TIME FUNDING REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, ABOUT 1.5 MILLION.

OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSIVE LIST.

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THOSE ONE TIME FUNDING EXPENSES, WHICH ALL APPROVED.

SO THIS IS THE FORECAST FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

WE'RE NOT SHOWING YOU A COMPLETE FIVE YEAR FORECAST HERE.

WE REALLY WANT TO DIVE INTO FISCAL YEAR 20, 22 AND 2023 AND SHOW YOU WHAT UPDATED AND WHERE WE ENDED THE YEAR.

SO LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH RIGHT HERE REALLY QUICK.

SO UPDATES WE MADE TO THIS FORECAST.

WE'VE UPDATED THE 2022 ACTUALS TO SHOW YOU HERE SHORTLY.

WE'VE UPDATED THE 2023 SALES TAX ESTIMATE BASED ON THE TWO MONTHS, FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR COLLECTION.

WE'VE DECREASED THE ONE TIME TRANSFERS FOR SUSTAINABILITY AND CATALYST FUND BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD REGARDING THE DATA CENTER.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

AND THEN AS A REMINDER, THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET INCLUDED 4.6 MILLION IN SUPPLEMENTAL PACKAGES.

IT FUNDED TIERS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

IT DID NOT FUND TIER FIVE.

YOU REMEMBER, TIER FIVE IS ABOUT 500,000.

IT INCLUDED 25 NEW GENERAL FUND POSITIONS.

SO GREAT SENTIMENT TO STAFF AND COUNCIL.

AND THEN WE HAD A 4% COST OF LIVING IN A 2% LUMP SUM MERIT FOR EMPLOYEES WE DISCUSSED DURING THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

SO NOW WE'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS TABLE.

WE'LL GET INTO THE NUMBERS HERE.

SO 2022 ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

YOU CAN SEE WE HAD 150.3 IN REVENUE, ABOUT 152.8 IN EXPENSES.

THIS DOES INCLUDE A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE BROUGHT SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MIDYEAR FOR SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES WE TALKED ABOUT SHORTLY AGO.

WE ENDED THE YEAR WITH 159.5 MILLION IN REVENUE.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT BREAKS OUT HERE.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THESE PROPERTY TAX SALES.

TAX SERVICE FEES CONTINUE TO COME IN STRONG RETURN ON INVESTMENT, YOU CAN SEE HERE.

AND THEN COMING DOWN TO EXPENSES, WE FINISHED ABOUT 152.5 IN EXPENSES.

SO TOTAL THE GENERAL FUND FINISHED $6.9 MILLION POSITIVE FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR.

THAT LEFT OUR FUND BALANCE OF 45.5 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

WE DO HAVE A TARGET IN A GENERAL FUND SIMILAR TO EVERY FUND IN THE CITY THAT MAINTAINS A FUND BALANCE.

THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE TARGET IS 25%.

THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 38.1 MILLION.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGE THERE, 29.88% RAISE FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THIS IS THE FISCAL YEAR THAT STARTED IN OCTOBER.

SO OCTOBER 1ST, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN WITH 182.9 MILLION IN REVENUES, 182.9 MILLION IN EXPENSES.

SO BASICALLY A BALANCED BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

AT THE END OF YOUR ESTIMATE, WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS EVERYTHING IS BASICALLY THE SAME EXCEPT THE SALES TAX FORECAST.

WE HAVE UPDATED THE SALES TAX FORECAST BASED ON THE FIRST TWO MONTHS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

WE HAVE BASICALLY LEFT EXPENSES THE SAME AS THOSE ONE TIME TRANSFERS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TO THE CATALYST AND THE SUSTAINABILITY FUND BASED ON THE REVISED DATA CENTER REVENUE. ALSO DOWN HERE, YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT THESE MID-YEAR REQUESTS ARE, 1.1 MILLION.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE SHORTLY.

THESE ARE POSITION REQUESTS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUESTING.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE DEPARTMENTS QUESTIONS IN A SECOND IF YOU HAVE THEM, THAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE FINANCIALS.

SO ALL THINGS GIVEN THAT I EXPLAINED, WE STILL HAVE THE BREAK EVEN BUDGET ABOUT $9,500 IF YOU DO APPROVE THOSE POSITIONS TODAY.

OK. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE UTILITY FUNDS REALLY QUICK.

WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU HERE IS STARTING NOW.

SO WHAT ARE THE RESERVE TARGETS FOR THE UTILITIES FOR ELECTRIC FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022? YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE TARGET IS.

HERE IS A DOLLAR VALUE.

SAME THING FOR WATER AND WASTE WATER AND SOLID WASTE.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS IN THIS TABLE.

I WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE VERY FAR RIGHT COLUMN, THE CHANGE IN THE FUND BALANCE.

THIS IS HOW MUCH A REVENUE EXCEEDED EXPENSES.

SO NET INCOME FOR EACH UTILITY.

YOU CAN SEE ELECTRIC FINISHED 22.7 MILLION POSITIVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SHORTLY AGO.

WATER IS ABOUT 4.9 MILLION.

POSITIVE WASTEWATER WAS 12.1 OR 12.2 AND THEN SOLID WASTE WAS 5.5.

ONE THING I WILL NOTE ON THE WASTEWATER, 12.2 MILLION, THIS DOES INCLUDE $8 MILLION WORTH OF DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THOSE PROJECTS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO IT REALLY FINISHED ABOUT $4 MILLION POSITIVE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I MADE THAT NOTE.

SO THIS IS YOUR UTILITIES.

SO THEY ARE PERFORMING WELL.

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THIS IS THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.

WE DID NOT INCLUDE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS ON THIS SLIDE, BUT REALLY JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.

I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERYTHING HERE, BUT I'LL DEFINITELY POINT OUT SOME MAJOR ONES.

SO TECK SERVICES CURRENTLY HAS 1.8 MILLION IN A FUND BALANCE.

YOU CAN SEE RISK HAS 1.5.

THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND HAS ABOUT 3 MILLION.

SO THE CITY'S HEALTH PLAN, WE HAVE 7.5 OR 7.6 MILLION IN STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND AND THEN 14 MILLION IN THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE FUND.

AND WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS YOU PROBABLY HAS SEEN THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND FUND BALANCE AND THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE FUND BALANCE.

WE DO HAVE PLANS TO SPEND THOSE PROCEEDS ON SOME INITIATIVES AND ROADWAYS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I KNOW I KNOW CASSIE'S HERE AND BECKY MAY BE HERE, TOO.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.

BUT WE DO HAVE PLANS FOR THOSE FUNDS.

ALL RIGHT. SO MID-YEAR POSITION REQUESTS, LIKE I SAID, SCOTT'S OVER HERE.

WE'LL GET INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REALLY QUICK.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO ADD TWO SENIOR PLANNER POSITIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THIS IS BASED ON GROWTH THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE GOT SOME STATISTICS HERE WE DEFINITELY CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

SO WE HAVE SEEN A 13.4% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

SO IF YOU LOOK DOWN HERE IN THIS TABLE ON THE BOTTOM, THIS SUMMARIZES DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS WENT FROM 844 TO 957.

WE'VE SEEN A 25.2% INCREASE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND THE NUMBER OF PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT NUMBER WENT FROM 186 TO 233.

WHAT ALSO IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE POSITIONS, IF APPROVED, WILL BE PAID FOR VIA COST RECOVERY.

SO REVENUE WE RECEIVE FROM THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY WILL OFFSET THE COST OF THESE EXPENSES OR THESE POSITIONS, WHICH IS 186,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

POLICE METRICS AND SEE THE CHIEF OVER THERE, TOO, AND HE CAN SPEAK TO THIS.

BUT WE ARE REQUESTING SEVEN NEW POLICE POSITIONS.

WE BROKE IT OUT IN THIS TABLE WHERE YOU COULD SEE HOW THE POSITIONS BROKE DOWN.

SO WE HAVE TWO CIVILIAN JAILERS.

WE HAVE ONE POLICE SERGEANT, WE HAVE FOUR POLICE OFFICERS.

AND THEN SOME METRICS FOR POLICE.

WE'VE HAD A 7.7% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AND A 12.5% INCREASE SINCE 2015.

SO DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN BUSY AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME INCREASES IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN SEE VIOLENT CRIMES REPORTED HERE HAVE INCREASED FROM 441 IN 2021 TO 4 TO 90.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE PROPERTY CRIMES REPORTED ALSO IN SOME METRICS THAT SUPPORT THAT.

THE TOTAL OF THE SEVEN POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED TODAY TOTAL 1.2, 1.3 MILLION OF THAT AMOUNT.

THERE ARE SOME ONE TIME EXPENSES FOR VEHICLES, ABOUT 360,000 AND THEN 921,000 OF THAT IS REOCCURRING EXPENSES FOR SALARIES OF THE EMPLOYEES.

AND A LITTLE BIT OF METRICS FOR THE DETENTION FACILITY WE'LL TALK ABOUT.

SO YOU CAN SEE ANNUAL BOOKINGS IN THE CITY JAIL HAVE INCREASED FROM 27, 20 AND 2020, WHICH IS UP HERE ALSO REPRESENTED IN THIS TABLE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN 2022 IT WAS 3422.

THE TABLE DOES BREAK IT DOWN FROM A FELONY CLASS A, CLASS B AND CLASS C, AND I'M SURE THE CHIEF CAN TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

BUT THEN ALSO YOU CAN SEE TO SOME OPERATIONAL METRICS HERE THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY GLAD TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO 2024.

I BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER.

I'M SURE YOU'RE EXCITED. 2024 WILL BE KICKING OFF HERE PRETTY SOON.

THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS ARE GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD.

SO STARTING IN JUNE, YOU'LL START SEEING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET.

WE'LL HAVE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IN AUGUST, ULTIMATE BUDGETED OPTION IN SEPTEMBER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THEN AND THEN FUTURE DISCUSSIONS.

SO WE DID TALK ABOUT DM TODAY.

IF APPROVED, WE'LL BRING BACK THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR THE POSITIONS ON FEBRUARY 21ST.

WE DO HAVE A WATER WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE STUDY GOING ON.

WE PLAN TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT COME TALK TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 27TH AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BUDGETING PROCESS THAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

AND THEN MAYOR, I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

I WILL PULL IT DOWN.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ONE QUESTION FROM ME REAL QUICK.

I DIDN'T SEE THE OPIOID SETTLEMENTS CAPTURED THERE AND THE ONE TIME, THOSE ARE ONE SOME OF THE FUNDS WE HAVE ONE ON ONE TIME FUNDS ARE THOSE. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE RESTRICTED FUNDS OR SO THEY ARE RESTRICTED.

I BELIEVE MY UNDERSTANDING FOR TRAINING PURPOSES, THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED PURPOSE.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS FORECAST.

WE DID NOT MAKE THAT UPDATE YET AS OUR PARK FEES AND SO FORTH.

WE'RE JUST WE'RE NOT THAT FAR INTO THE FINANCES TO MAKE THOSE UPDATES.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OK ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS FOR CHIEF SCHUMAKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON. DOUG SHOEMAKER, CHIEF OF POLICE.

THANK YOU, SIR. MY QUESTION IS ON THE POLICE METRICS SLIDE AND THE POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS COMPARES TO THE STAFFING STUDY THAT WE HAD A CONSULTANT DO FOR US A LITTLE WHILE BACK ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,

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SO TO THAT POINT, COUNCILMEMBER, THE I THINK THE STAFFING STUDY WAS OBVIOUSLY DONE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MY TIME AND SHOWED SORT OF A TREND OF THE NEED FOR INCREASE IN EACH SUBSEQUENT YEAR, WHICH WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND NEED.

HOWEVER, GIVEN THE TYPES OF CALLS AND THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE'RE SEEING, THINGS HAVE EVOLVED A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THE DEMAND ON POLICE SERVICES. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS ON THE SLIDE THAT WAS UP THERE THAT I THINK THAT SHOWS THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE'VE TAKEN, ADDITIONAL CALLS FOR SERVICE PER YEAR, PARTICULARLY OVER THE LAST YEAR.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO PREDICT THAT NECESSARILY.

AND SO I THINK IT'S WE'RE ASEEM DIXON AND I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A NEWER STUDY THAT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR UPDATING.

OF COURSE, THOSE STUDIES TAKE TIME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WITH SOME LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, OUR NUMBERS ON PATROL ARE NOT WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

AND I THINK ONE PARTICULAR CASE IN POINT IS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'RE SEEING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, OUR DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE EVEN ALLOCATED DOWNTOWN AREN'T REALLY GETTING TO THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING CALLS OF SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO AS WE ADD THOSE NUMBERS, OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF WHERE THE OFFICERS WILL GO, THE SERGEANTS POSITION WILL ULTIMATELY REPLACE OR BECOME A NEW SERGEANTS POSITION IN THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT THAT AT LEAST A HOUSE WAS PROMOTED FROM SERGEANT TO LIEUTENANT.

SHE NOW LEADS THE DOWNTOWN UNIT, SPECIAL EVENTS, SPECIAL PROJECTS, WE CALL IT NOW.

AND THAT SERGEANT POSITION THAT SHE VACATED, I NEEDED IN OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNIT TO GIVE SOME BETTER FLOW TO HOW THINGS WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY TOO, TOO LENGTHY AT THIS TIME.

WE WANT TO BE A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT IN THAT AREA, SO THE NEW SERGEANT POSITION WOULD THEN GO BACK INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT OUR STAFF THERE, BOTH SWORN AND PROFESSIONAL, ARE AVAILABLE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR WHAT WE THINK IS A VERY ESSENTIAL PART OF HOW WE RESPOND TO THINGS.

THE OTHER OFFICERS, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME UTILIZATION WITHIN OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM OR HOT TEAM, AND WE'VE GOT SOME SOME NEEDS THERE AS WELL AS PATROL STAFFING.

AGAIN, OUR PATROL STAFFING, IF WE KEEP OUR PATROL OFFICERS OUT THERE, THE PATROL OFFICER STAFFING IS WE GET IT UP TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROACTIVE POLICING.

TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE HERE, AND I THINK THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND BE IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IN ADVANCE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR SOME OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVEN JUST KIND OF THE BROAD METRICS THAT WE'VE GOT HERE IN OUR BACKUP.

ANECDOTALLY, PEOPLE NOTICE AN INCREASE IN VIOLENT CRIME.

CERTAINLY WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA NOW, SO WE TALK ABOUT VIOLENT CRIME MORE WHEN IT HAPPENS.

WOULD WOULD IT BE HELPFUL? AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR A WORK SESSION UNLESS YOU THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HEAR FROM PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS ON ROOT CAUSES OR THINGS WE CAN DO OR THE KIND OF QUESTIONS WE GET FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHY AM I SEEING MORE VIOLENT CRIME IN MY CITY? WOULD IT BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO US ON THAT IN THE FUTURE? ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE COULD LEARN FROM A PRESENTATION LIKE THAT? WELL, CERTAINLY WE'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT COUNCIL FEELS THAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL TO BETTER INFORM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO BETTER TELL OUR STORY, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ARPAIO WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS, SOME THINGS AS WE SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH IS A UNIQUE PLATFORM.

PICK YOUR PLATFORM. THEY'RE ALL UNIQUE, I GUESS, IN THEIR OWN WAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS MAY SEEM VERY SHOCKING WHEN IN FACT, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'LL CALL RANDOM A LOT OF THINGS OF OF ISSUES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, OTHER THE TYPES OF THINGS AND I THINK PREVENTATIVE MEASURES AND HOW WE CAN BETTER HELP, HOW THE COMMUNITY CAN BETTER HELP US TO BE MORE INVOLVED WITH BEING AWARE OF CRIME, PREVENTING CRIME, NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO HAVE A BETTER HAND IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE JUST IRONICALLY STARTED OUR ANOTHER CITIZEN'S POLICE ACADEMY LAST NIGHT, SO THAT THAT EDUCATION PIECE I THINK IS VERY, VERY VITAL.

SO WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE UP FOR FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THEN COUNCILMAN WATTS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I'LL START WITH CHIEF SCHUMAKER, AND THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP FOR NICK.

IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE BREAKDOWN THAT YOU JUST PROVIDED WAS.

WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR AND YOU FOR FOR NARROWING THAT DOWN.

AND BECAUSE IT GIVES US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE RESOURCES WILL BE USED IN THE COMMUNITY.

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SHE HAS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS IN TERMS OF THE VEHICLES, THE VEHICLES, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THINGS, AS THE OFFICERS, WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE SHORT ON VEHICLES.

THERE'S BEEN A BACKLOG ON GETTING THE VEHICLES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO WE'RE BEHIND. AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT GO ON PATROL, WE NEED THEM TO BE IN A VEHICLE TO GET TO THE CALLS THEY NEED TO DO.

BUT IN TERMS OF COSTS, I'LL DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUE.

AND WHILE SHE COMES UP, IF I MIGHT, THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING IS THIS VEHICLES FOR THE FOUR ADDITIONAL OFFICERS WITH MORE SPECIFIC.

I'M SORRY, BECAUSE THAT'S SUFFICE.

IF THAT'S THE ANSWER, THEN THAT SUFFICES.

OKAY. OKAY.

GREAT JOB. I GUESS THIS IS WHY SHANIKA IS THE ROCK STAR OF OUR DEPARTMENT.

BECAUSE SHE JUST NEEDED A WALK UP, AND I FIGURED OUT THE ANSWER.

THERE YOU GO. AND THEN I GUESS FROM.

FROM NICK. I THANK YOU, CHIEF.

I THINK IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WE WERE THERE WAS A SORT OF GENERAL OVERVIEW OF REQUESTS FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR POLICE.

THOSE THOSE TWO WERE HIGHLIGHTED AS SORT OF CLEAR MID-YEAR NEEDS.

BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, I FORGET HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS SARAH OVERSEES A LOT.

YEAH, EVERYONE'S GOING TO HAVE MID-YEAR NEEDS.

I GUESS THE QUESTION GOES TO WHAT, WHY? WHY THESE TWO IN PARTICULAR AND WHAT LED TO THESE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD AS PRIORITIES? SO I'LL ANSWER THAT AND PROBABLY DO TOO JUST AS WELL.

TWO REASONS. ONE IS I'VE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED STAFF.

IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE OVERWHELMED WITH OUR STAFF IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY TODAY, WITH WORKERS NOT COMING TO WORK, NOT WANTING TO WORK, TO SPEAK UP.

SO IN THESE TWO AREAS, ONE IS YOU HAVE STAFF IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WORKING IN AVERAGE.

THE PLAN IS 65 HOURS A WEEK.

THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

WHEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THEIR TAILS OFF AND REALLY SITTING DOWN WITH DEVELOPERS AND YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.

SO SCOTT SPOKE UP.

WE SAID WE'LL PUT IT IN HIS MIDYEAR.

IT'S COST NEUTRAL BASICALLY BECAUSE IT COVERS ITS COSTS THROUGH THE FEES.

SAME THING WITH POLICE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CHIEF AND FRANK, BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE 13 OFFICERS ON THE STREET AT ANY GIVEN TIME WITH A POPULATION OF 151,000 PEOPLE.

THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE IN A CITY THAT HAS HUGE GROWTH WITH DEVELOPMENT, HUGE GROWTH WITH SCHOOLS, STUDENTS, PARENTS ON THE ROAD, AND THEN PEOPLE COMING TO DENTON TO TO BUILD.

AND WE'RE SEEING MORE PEOPLE COMING TO THIS AREA BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE LARGER CITY.

SO WE'RE IN THE SITUATION OF A MEDIUM SIZE, SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZED CITY THAT'S KIND OF RAPIDLY GROWING INTO A BIG CITY.

AND TO BE HONEST, IT'S A PROACTIVE APPROACH, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT TAKES US APPROXIMATELY A YEAR TO GET A POLICE OFFICER FROM IN IN THE IN THE Q TO FULL DEVELOPMENT OUT TO BE COMPLETELY READY TO GO ON THE STREET.

AND SO IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, WE DO IT IN OCTOBER, AND THAT'S JUST LOSING TIME.

SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT IS NEEDED RIGHT NOW.

DOES THAT MEAN WE WON'T BE BACK WITH MORE BUDGET REQUESTS? ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE US COME BEFORE YOU HERE IN ANOTHER MONTH? WELL, LESS THAN A MONTH. BUT DANNY WILL BE COMING AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S WORKING WHEN IT AS IT RELATES TO HOMELESSNESS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING WELL, WHICH THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. BUT THEN ALSO WHERE ARE THE GAPS AND MAYBE SOME THINGS.

SO THAT WOULD COME IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE AN EMERGENCY, AND THAT'S WHY WE SAY MID-YEAR.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH CLARITY FOR ME ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OK.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NICK ON SLIDE.

LET'S SEE. WHERE IS IT? IT'S THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE.

THERE IT IS. ITS SLOT.

LET ME LOOK AT THE NUMBER. I'VE GOT SEVEN OR 15 AT LEAST IN THE BACKUP WHERE IT TALKS.

YOU HIGHLIGHT THE SALES TAX INCREASE COLLECTION.

I GUESS WHAT I SEE ALSO AND SO CORRECT ME IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS INCORRECTLY, BUT UNDER LICENSES AND PERMITS, THE BUDGET WAS FOR 2022 AT LEAST WAS 6 MILLION AND THE ACTUAL WAS 9 MILLION, WHICH IS THAT'S OVER A 40%.

IS THAT PRIMARILY WHEN YOU SAY PERMITS OR LICENSES AND PERMITS, IS THAT PRIMARILY REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY OR. SO, COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S ACTUALLY ANTICIPATED THIS QUESTION? I FIGURED YOU'D SEE THAT, BUT SO OH, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW TO READ IT.

YES. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, A LONG TIME AGO.

SO SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THAT SOME OF THAT IS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE NON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RELATED.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, SOME OF THAT IS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.

YES. WELL, AND I THINK THAT GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER'S ANSWER THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH IN APPLICATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK THAT'S

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SO I DO APPRECIATE LOOK, THAT IS VERY INTENSIVE.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU START HAVING PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS, MEETING, I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT GETS QUITE BURDENSOME.

MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR THE CHIEF.

CHIEF, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THE SLIDE 12 OF 15, WHICH IS THE POLICE METRICS, THE DETENTION CENTER.

SO IT SAYS HERE THAT THE ANNUAL JAIL BOOKINGS OFFENSE.

SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS TABLE, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY, I GUESS, BEEN BOOKED INTO THE DETENTION CENTER BASED UPON THE OFFENSE TYPES OR CLASSES.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO GIVEN OUR POPULATION INCREASE AND GIVEN OBVIOUSLY THE NEED THAT WE HAVE TO TO HAVE MORE OFFICERS ON PATROL IN A CITY OUR SIZE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, LET'S SAY, OF THE FELONY CATEGORY, WHICH IN 2020 WAS 801, AND IN 2022 IS 1008, THAT'S ABOUT A PROBABLY BY A LITTLE OVER 20, 25% INCREASE OVER THOSE TWO YEARS OR I GUESS THREE YEARS.

IS THAT. IS WANT TO SAY, IS THAT NORMAL? BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT AT ALL.

BUT GIVEN OUR GROWTH, GIVEN DIFFERENT FACTORS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ALARMED ABOUT? I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE THAT REDUCED.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET REAL ABOUT THESE NUMBERS AND WHAT CAN WE DO, IF ANYTHING, TO HELP PUT THOSE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE OF OUR GROWTH? WE'RE JUST GOING TO SEE THAT? WELL, WITH RESPECT, COUNCILMAN, I THINK IT'S AND IT'S REALLY A MULTIFACETED ANSWER SPEAKING.

I GUESS ANECDOTALLY, I WOULD SAY THAT 2020 WITH COVID SEEMED TO BRING A CHANGE IN A LOT OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND AND THE NUMBER OF OF PLACES THAT EXPERIENCED CRIME INCREASES, THERE WERE VERY FEW, I WOULD SAY, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN IN CRIME.

AS I LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS, AS WE COMPARE 2021 TO 2022, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR VIOLENT CRIMES ROSE A LITTLE OVER 17%.

OVERALL, PART ONE CRIMES ROSE OVER 17%.

RATHER, OUR VIOLENT CRIMES WERE AT 13%.

SO THAT'S SIMILAR TO A NUMBER OF PLACES.

IT'S NOT A TREND THAT WE WANT TO HAVE, AND OUR JOB IS TO REDUCE CRIME.

SO WE CLEARLY HAVE A TASK BEFORE US WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR REACTIONS AND OUR PROGRAMS AND HOW WE DEPLOY, HOW WE RESPOND, HOW WE EDUCATE, ALL THOSE THINGS WORK TOGETHER HAND IN HAND TO TRY AND REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS.

THAT'S THE GOAL FOR FOR THAT, IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

SOME THINGS THERE ARE THERE ARE THAT OCCUR ARE ARE THINGS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY, QUOTE UNQUOTE, PREVENTABLE FROM A PROACTIVE POLICING STANCE.

BUT THERE ARE EDUCATIONAL PIECES THAT CAN BE TIED INTO THINGS.

AND THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS AND PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE WE CERTAINLY WANT TO WORK WITH AS WE BUILD THIS OUT, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT A SAFE CITY IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS AND DESIRES, AND WE PLAY A BIG PART IN THAT.

SO I THINK WE HAVE OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US.

BUT I KNOW WE HAVE A STAFF THAT'S WILLING TO TO JUMP IN AND DO OUR VERY BEST.

WELL, THANK YOU, CHIEF. AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS SAID.

I MEAN, HE HE SAID IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON SORT OF A MORE COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF THIS AND MAYBE A MORE SPECIFIC BREAKDOWN OF THE THE OFFENSES AND WHAT CAN WE DO.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

I THINK I THINK THAT GOES TO THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT AND WHAT CAN WE DO FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE.

AND THEN ALSO, I THINK IT ALSO BE GOOD JUST FROM THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE, TO HEAR NOT JUST THESE HARD NUMBERS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEHIND THE NUMBERS, BUT TO SEE IT.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO? HOW CAN WE PLAY OUR PART? AND AS YOU SAID, REDUCING THOSE NUMBERS TO CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR CITY A SAFER CITY.

SO I WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THAT, MADAM CITY MANAGER.

AND IF THAT NEEDS TO BE A TWO MINUTE PITCH, FINE.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TO HAVE THAT AT SOME POINT.

HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER I CAN AND WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ON THAT.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MAYOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE BEFORE WE CLOSE.

CHIEF, IF YOU COULD, I HAVE ONE THING FOR YOU.

FOR YOU. I KNOW IT.

I DO WANT TO. I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU AND YOU DON'T.

FIRST, LET ME START WITH WHAT YOU MENTIONED ON PATROL, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT, I BELIEVE.

BECAUSE I KNOW IT HAPPENS.

IT'S NOT 100% PREVENTABLE, BUT I THINK I WANT TO SEE US GET MORE OFFICERS ON PATROL FOR VARIOUS REASONS. BUT THE BANK ROBBERY, BANK ROBBERIES, I THINK FOR WELLS FARGO ON CARROLL IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR TOWN AND THEN POINT BLANK TWICE, YOU KNOW, ON ON CARROLL AGAIN MIDDLE OF TOWN.

I THINK THAT HIGHLIGHTS I THINK IF WE HAVE.

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I JUST THINK THAT'S THAT AMONGST MANY, THERE'S THERE'S ALL THE INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE KIND OF SHARED.

BUT. SO THAT'S I SUPPORT THIS.

I DO I BROUGHT FORWARD A CONVERSATION THAT WILL COME BACK TO THIS BODY.

AND SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.

IF ONE OF THE THINGS I'M PUSHING FOR IS TIES TO EXACTLY WHAT NIC TOUCHED ON IS OUR SALES TAX CONTINUES TO GO THROUGH THE ROOF.

RIGHT. AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS THAT BACK AS WE CAN FROM EVERYONE IN DC TO EVERYONE.

BUT IN ALSO, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS CARVE OUT A PERCENTAGE OF THAT TO GO TO POLICE ONE TIME EXPENSES.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VEHICLE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, YOU HAVE KIND OF AN ACCOUNT AND A LINE ITEM THAT BEGINS TO ACCRUE SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU TO BUY ONE TIME EXPENDITURES, RIFLES, VEHICLES, HANDCUFFS, WHATEVER IT IS YOU HAVE TO BUY.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY WHILE YOU'RE HERE TO BE HEARD, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE HERE FOR THAT OR NOT, BUT AS FAR AS ON THE IN THAT WORK SESSION, BUT WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD ON THAT THOUGHT OF HOW AN ALLOCATION OF FUND SPECIFIC FUND FOR ONE TIME EXPENSES HELPS.

HERTZ AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY WHILE YOU'RE HERE.

SURE. AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND I'LL SAY A FEW THINGS AND I'LL BACK IT UP TO YOUR INITIAL STATEMENT.

WITH REGARD TO BANK ROBBERIES.

THAT IS SUCH AN ANOMALY.

I. QUESTIONED ASSISTANT CHIEF BUCHANAN.

I SAID, DO WE? THIS IS NEW TO ME. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN BANK ROBBERIES LIKE THIS IN A FEW IN SUCCESSION.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT CERTAINLY NOT AN EXCUSE.

IT'S JUST A VERY STRANGE WAY.

IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT COMMON TO SEE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT I WILL SAY THERE ARE OTHER PIECES, PIECES THAT TYPICALLY WHEN SOMEBODY ROBS A BANK, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT AN ON A WHIM SORT OF THING.

IT'S IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE OTHER THINGS IN THE PAST THAT BUILDS UP TO THAT LEVEL OF.

BOLDNESS TO DO THINGS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE NEEDS TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THE REALLY BAD THINGS GET THE APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT AND THE FOLKS THAT THAT DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE IN JAIL CAN GET THE APPROPRIATE HELP TO TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, HELPFUL WITHIN SOCIETY IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S IT'S A VERY FINE LINE THAT WE WALK THERE.

OUR GOAL IS TO BE AS PROACTIVE AND AS VISIBLE AS POSSIBLE AND AS WE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF FOLKS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA WITH SOME REALLOCATION OF STAFF, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT.

CERTAINLY, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION ON THOSE ISSUES.

AND AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE, I THINK ONE THING TO DO IS AGAIN.

THE EQUIPMENT, ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT THE TRAINING COMPONENT AND THE CULTURAL PIECE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION I THINK ARE ABSOLUTELY KEY TO OUR SUCCESS.

THE COSTS OF THINGS, OF DOING BUSINESS, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WEAR, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE THAT WE NEED TO GO OUT AND DO THE JOB IS CERTAINLY ONE BIG ASPECT, BUT ALSO THE THE ENSURING THAT WE RECRUIT THE VERY BEST OF THE BEST WHO HAVE THE RIGHT HEART AND MIND FOR THE JOB IS KEY FOR MAKING THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT THE BEST IN THE DFW METROPLEX.

AND THAT'S THE GOAL OF COURSE.

SO A LOT OF TRAINING TO COME THROUGH, A LOT OF A LOT OF CHANGES AT THE DEPARTMENT, A LOT OF GROWTH.

AND SO AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE, I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLY BUILD OUT THE CAPACITY OF STAFF TO FIGURE OUT CREATIVE WAYS TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS.

SO THAT'S OUR GOAL AND THAT'S THE TASK AND ULTIMATELY, THAT'S WHAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. AND THEN, NICK, JUST I DO WANT TO SAY, WITH THE INCREASE IN SALES TAX, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S I'M LIKE I'M GOING TO BE A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS.

AND I KNOW DSTA IS COMING TO SPEAK TO US AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

SO JUST.

RIGHT, MAN, I'M JUST GOING TO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO TO INCREASE THE TRIPS GRANT SO THAT WE CAN REINVEST THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS DOING A GREAT JOB TO INCREASE SALES TAX AND INCREASE THE VIABILITY OF PEOPLE COMING HERE, SPENDING MONEY.

AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PLUGGED BACK INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, SIDEWALKS, ETC..

AND I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE SIDEWALK ON HICKORY.

COMING UP JUST WEST OF THE SQUARE RIGHT THERE BY WHAT USED TO BE FRONTIER OR WHATEVER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN.

BUT THAT THAT'S FINALLY GETTING DONE.

YES. I'M SURE BECKY IS OUT THERE.

DR. DAN WAS WORKING ON THAT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND I SAW THAT WORK BEING DONE.

AND I THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.

AND THEN LAST THING, SCOTT, IF I COULD HAVE YOU UP.

I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THE NEED FOR FOR STAFFING AND MAKING SURE WE DO THE THINGS WE'VE DONE, THE CONSULTING THING TO HELP.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO MITIGATE THE WORK AND IT STILL CONTINUES TO GROW.

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I DON'T HEAR THE SAME CONCERNS FROM PEOPLE AS I DID BEFORE.

RIGHT. AND YOU ALWAYS WOULD SAY, HEY, IT'S GETTING BETTER.

WE'RE WORKING ON IT, WE'RE WORKING ON IT, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

AND MY EMAIL BOX STILL IS GETTING EMAILS, EMAILS, EMAILS.

BUT I THINK WE'VE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD, OR AT LEAST THAT I SEE RIGHT FROM MY VISIBILITY.

THOSE SAME CONCERNS, QUESTIONS, ETC.

HAVE NOT REPEATED THEMSELVES.

RIGHT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

IT'S BECAUSE IT'S OFTENTIMES IT'S, HEY, WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND CITY MANAGER IS SAYING, HEY, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

AND IT'S JUST GREAT TO SEE THAT ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES, THE DIFFERENT SOFTWARE, THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THE CONSULTANTS ARE LOOKING AT THIS, THE PROCESS, THE COMMUNICATION, ALL THOSE THINGS KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND NET OUT WHERE I THINK PEOPLE ARE FEELING LIKE IT'S RUNNING SMOOTHER, IT'S MORE CONSISTENT, THAT SORT OF THING.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF THAT CREDIT GOES TO YOU, YOUR TEAM, ETC.

AND WHOEVER ELSE, BUT JUST YOU BEING THE FACE OF THAT.

THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU CAN DISSEMINATE THAT TO ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT PARTS AND PIECES THAT MAKE ALL THAT GO.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S THIS IT'S THE SUPPORT STAFF GETS FROM CITY MANAGEMENT AND FROM COUNCIL AND INITIATIVES LIKE THIS THAT JUST MAKE IT POSSIBLE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TWO THINGS.

ONE IS THAT WE'LL GET THIS FINAL THIS WILL BE ON THE BUDGET FOR YOU AT APPROVE, BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE OKAY PUTTING THIS ON THE BUDGET FOR APPROVAL.

I MEAN ON THE NEXT AGENDA, THAT'S NUMBER ONE, THE TWO REQUESTS.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS I'M HEARING AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE SAY THEY'D LIKE AN UPDATE FROM THE POLICE.

AND I'M TRYING TO AVOID ANYBODY HAVING TO DO A TWO MINUTE PITCH.

I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO ASK IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE.

IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK AND GIVE A BETTER UPDATE OF OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED ABOUT THE VIOLENT CRIME, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THEY'RE SEEING TRENDS IN POLICING, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, THEN I CAN SCHEDULE THAT IS NOT AN IMMEDIATE OR URGENT, BUT MAYBE SORT OF A MEDIUM PRIORITY.

GREAT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT SUPPORTS THAT THAT REQUEST THAT WE HAVE? COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS, COUNCILMAN WATTS, ANYONE ELSE? THERE YOU GO. AND ME.

SO THAT'S FOUR. I GO.

OK. VERY GOOD. THANKS.

[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding City Council policy priorities for the Denton County Transit Authority. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING CITY COUNCIL POLICY PRIORITIES FOR DENTON COUNTY TRANSIT AUTHORITY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH. RYAN ADAMS. CHIEF OF STAFF. MAYOR.

I'M SIMPLY JUST INTRODUCING THIS TOPIC FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

YOU MAY REMEMBER BACK ON DECEMBER 13TH, COUNCIL RECEIVED AN UPDATE FROM DCA, AND AT THAT DURING THAT UPDATE THERE WAS DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL AN AGREEMENT TO BRING BACK AN ITEM WHERE COUNCIL COULD DISCUSS THEIR COLLECTIVE POLICY PRIORITIES FOR CTA AND BASICALLY WHAT POLICIES THE BODY DESIRES THAT THE DCA REPRESENTATIVE TAKE BACK IN ADVANCE AS PART OF THE CTA BOARD.

SO THIS IS THAT ITEM OR COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS THOSE POLICY PRIORITIES.

A NUMBER OF THINGS WERE DISCUSSED BACK AT THAT MEETING, INCLUDING GEOFENCING.

AND SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO REFINE AND GIVE DIRECTION ON WHAT THOSE POLICY PRIORITIES ARE.

AND I'LL STEP DOWN AND YIELD THE FLOOR TO THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RYAN, THANK YOU FOR FOR THIS ITEM.

AND I WILL SAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BODY ADVOCATE AND AS A AS A TWO TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE DO PUSH TOWARDS THAT GEOFENCING AROUND YOU.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE MATH BEHIND IT, RIGHT? I JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A LOT OF THE RESOURCES BEING USED.

AND JUST LIKE THE THE THE COST PORTION OF IT WAS USED TO KIND OF INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO USE THE SYSTEM DIFFERENTLY.

I THINK JUST TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE STUDENTS AROUND YOU AND T TO EITHER AND I'LL GIVE YOU A CASE IN POINT I, I USE GOES ON.

LAST NIGHT. AND IT COST ME WHAT? BUCK 50 TO GO FROM TARGET TO BASICALLY AMERICAN LEGION HALL THERE IN SOUTHEAST TO GO BACK TO TARGET FROM THE AMERICAN LEGION HALL I.

IT WAS AFTER HOURS, SO I HAD TO USE UBER AND IT WAS ROUND NUMBERS $12 AND SAYING THAT TO SAY.

STUDENTS ARE INCENTIVIZED AND IT MAKES SENSE.

AND IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE AND IT'S A GREAT TOOL TO USE THE GO ZONE.

BUT THEY HAVE A BUS SERVICE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE ALSO ALLOCATED.

SO IT'S KIND OF I'D LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A CONSENSUS AROUND OR AT LEAST A MAJORITY SUPPORT TO.

TO MAKE A REQUEST OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE PUSH FOR A GREATER GEO FENCING TO PUSH IT OUT, I'D SAY TO AT LEAST.

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AND I KNOW THAT'S INCONVENIENCE.

THERE'S THAT'S NOT A DECISION MADE IN A VACUUM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHT AROUND THAT A FEW BLOCKS OFF CAMPUS SO THAT THOSE PICKUPS ARE ARE FURTHER AWAY AND MAYBE.

ENCOURAGES OTHERS TO EITHER USE UBER, LYFT OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE THING I WANT TO TALK THAT I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS ON AND AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT IT CAN BE A MODIFICATION OF THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M THROWING OUT AS A DISCUSSION POINT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS THAT WE WANT TO I GUESS WE'LL JUST LIST THEM ALL AND THEN SEE IF THERE'S A MAJORITY SUPPORT TO SEND A MESSAGE, SEND A REQUEST TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE, COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A BROKEN RECORD ON THE FARE STRUCTURE THAT FOR THE FIXED ROUTE BUSSES, I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO BE CHARGING PEOPLE MONEY TO RIDE THE BUS.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO RIDE THE BUS.

OK. ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M FOR ALL IN MY SUPPORT TO THE FAIR STRUCTURE.

I THINK IF THE THE IF THE GOAL IS TO IS TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP AND THAT'S IN ANY WAY A BARRIER, I SUPPORT THAT.

SO ESPECIALLY FOR THE MASS TRANSIT OPTIONS AND THEN SEGUEING RIGHT INTO ANOTHER THING THAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN US EXPLORING IS SORT OF TO PUSH BACK SLIGHTLY AND THE GEOFENCING, BECAUSE I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DISCUSSING IT.

I DON'T QUITE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH TO TRY TO PUSH PEOPLE OFF OF, OF THE MASS TRANSIT IS WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE.

SO I'M WILLING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN PUSHING PEOPLE OFF OF VARIOUS TRANSIT OPTIONS.

BUT AND SO MAYBE I JUST NEED MORE CLARITY ON WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF EFFORTS THAT I HEARD FROM THE LAST MEETING WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PORTFOLIO DISTRIBUTION OF SERVICES THAT SORT OF EMPHASIZE TRANSITIONING FROM FROM ONE SERVICE MODEL TO ANOTHER IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE RIDERSHIP.

SO TO GO FROM FROM GO ZONE TO TO BUS, TO TRAIN IN ORDER TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP OVERALL IN A SMART SORT OF CALCULATED WAY BASED ON CLOUD SERVICE MODELS OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.

I THINK THAT WOULD OVERLAP SORT OF MAYBE POSSIBLY THE MAYOR'S IDEA OF GEOFENCING.

SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME SYNERGIES THERE.

SO SHORT, SHORT ONE FARE STRUCTURE.

YES. AND THEN ALSO I'M INTERESTED IN HOW DO WE INTEGRATE DIFFERENT PORTFOLIO SERVICES TO TO TO MINIMIZE EXPENDITURE AND MAXIMIZE USAGE.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE.

COUNCILMAN BURT. ALSO, ALONG WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, THE FARE STRUCTURE, THE SYNERGIES BETWEEN EACH ONE OF THE RIDERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CELL PHONES AND CREDIT CARDS AND, YOU KNOW, WAYS TO BE ABLE TO.

BROWNLOW HIT THESE NUMBERS HERE ON THESE DEVICES.

I'D ALSO LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON HOW THOSE PEOPLE ARE REACHED IS PARTICULARLY THE BUS RIDERSHIP.

I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THAT LITTLE GENTLEMAN THAT COMES UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND AND I THINK HE'S ABOUT 90 YEARS OLD AND HE'S FINDING HIMSELF TO WAIT AND WALK AND ALL OF THAT. AND HE'S JUST NOT WALKING AROUND WITH HIS CELL PHONE, DOING THE TRACKERS, TRACKING ALL OF THAT.

THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE LIKE US.

SO AT THAT IN THE CONVERSATION AS WELL, THE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT.

COMPUTER SAVVY TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE. COUNCILOR MCGEE.

I'LL BE FOR. FOR FRED ROGERS.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE.

WANTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL REITERATE WHAT I SAID LAST TIME.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S LET'S ALL MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CORRECT REVENUE NUMBERS.

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I THINK THE CITY COLLECTED $53 MILLION IN 2022 FOR ITS PORTION OF THE SALES TAX COLLECTED.

IS THAT CORRECT? AM I REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION? I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMEMBER WATTS.

AND THAT $53 MILLION REPRESENTS, I BELIEVE, A ONE AND ONE HALF CENT SALES TAX COLLECTION, AND THEN THE REST OF THE EIGHT POINT SOMETHING GOES TO THE STATE.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? I'M GOING TO HAVE. I'M GOING TO COME UP.

I THINK IT IS. BUT I WANT TO MAKE MAN.

KASEY OGDEN'S COMING UP BECAUSE SHE CAN BETTER ARTICULATE THIS.

YES, THAT'S A ONE AND A HALF PERCENT.

SO FOR A TOTAL OF 8.25%.

SO WHILE YOU'RE THERE, CHECK MY CHECK MY LOGIC ON THIS.

SO THAT 53 MILLION REPRESENTS ONE AND ONE HALF CENT SALES TAX COLLECTION, CORRECT.

PERCENT PERCENT.

PERCENT. YES. WELL, OKAY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS MEASURED IN ANYWAY.

SO WE GIVE THE CITY CONTRIBUTES PER ORDINANCE TO DC TO A HALF CENT OF THE SALES TAX.

CORRECT. YES.

SO GIVEN THAT IT'S ONE AND ONE HALF OR THE 53 MILLION, I JUST SORT OF SUBTRACT, I DIVIDE THAT BY THREE THIRD AND IT COMES UP TO ABOUT $17 MILLION.

AND WE NEVER CAN GET AN ACTUAL AMOUNT, BUT WE SORT OF CAN BACK INTO IT THAT IF WE COLLECTED 53 MILLION ON 1.5% OR CENTS AND THEY COLLECTED AND THEY'RE COLLECTING HALF.

NOT OF THAT 1.5.

THIS IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE HALF.

THAT'S ABOUT $17 MILLION A YEAR, ROUGHLY.

AM I AM I MISSING SOMETHING IN THAT? IS THAT. NO, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE CALCULATE.

I THINK IT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT SORT OF SIMILAR NUMBER, $17 MILLION A YEAR.

THAT THE CITY OF DENTON TAXPAYERS CONTRIBUTE TO ITS BUDGET FOR.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN THE COUNTY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR IN THE PAST, WHICH I THINK WOULD GO TO ADDRESS THE GENTLEMAN'S.

ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL WHO SAYS IT GETS SOMEWHERE AND GETS STRANDED.

I'VE HAD A CONSTITUENT CALL ME WITH THE VERY SAME SITUATION.

I THINK I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT DC TO FIND A WAY, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY TO IDENTIFY ITS DISABLED SENIOR CITIZEN PASSENGERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THROUGH SOME DESIGNATION ON THEIR ACCOUNT.

SOME DESIGNATION. I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY DO IT, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO MEETS THAT CRITERIA.

THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE AVAILABLE ROAMING THE CITY SOMEWHERE.

ONE OR TWO VEHICLES THAT THEIR SPECIFIC OBJECTIVE IS TO IS TO ADDRESS THESE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE WHO MEET A CERTAIN CRITERIA GET SOMEWHERE AND GET STRANDED FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

MAYBE THEY ARE IN A WHEELCHAIR AND THERE'S NO WHEELCHAIR WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES AVAILABLE AT THAT POINT.

I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO REALLY HITTING SOME OF THOSE HARD PROBLEMS ON THE GROUND.

AND I CAN'T I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST.

I'VE CERTAINLY BEEN ON THE BOARD.

I'VE BEEN PRIVY TO THOSE KIND OF COST DISCUSSIONS.

BUT I THINK IF WE'RE PAYING THAT KIND OF MONEY, IT DESERVES A LOOK.

QUITE FRANKLY. AS FAR AS THE FENCING, I THINK THAT GETS PRETTY GRANULAR.

AND OF COURSE, THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS A POLICY DISCUSSION OF.

IT SEEMS THAT YOU AND STUDENTS CAN ABSORB OR SUCK UP A LOT OF THE CAPACITY OF GO ZONE DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR.

AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE BOARD MEETINGS.

HOW DO YOU PREVENT THAT? U.A. HAS ITS OWN SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR RD CTA BUSSES.

THEY PAY. I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS.

2 MILLION TO $3 MILLION A YEAR TO RUN SEVERAL BUSSES OVER PRE DESIGNATED ROUTES TO MOVE UNT COLLEGE STUDENTS.

IT IS A SEPARATE REVENUE STREAM FOR DC TO OTHER THAN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CONTRIBUTE.

SO I THINK IT'S A WORTHY DISCUSSION TO SAY, AND I'M WITH MAYOR PRO TEM, WE DON'T WANT TO INADVERTENTLY AND UNINTENTIONALLY PUSH ANYONE OFF OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT, THOUGH, IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S A AN AREA OF TOWN THAT IS UTILIZING A LOT OF THE CAPACITY

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THEIR OWN BUS SYSTEM ON CERTAIN ROUTES.

THAT JUST DISCUSSION NEEDS TO OCCUR ON HOW DO WE MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THAT TO WHERE THE CITIZENS WHO ARE NON STUDENTS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GET A RIDE. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DATA ON THAT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THAT'S A WORTHY DISCUSSION TO TRY TO FIND AT LEAST THE BEST SOLUTION TO PROVIDING AVAILABLE RIDES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHEN THEY WHEN THEY NEED THEM.

AND CERTAINLY IF SOMEONE GETS STRANDED, THAT MEETS CERTAIN CRITERIA.

I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION WHEN I BROUGHT THAT UP.

YOU KNOW, WHEN SOME WHEN THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S 70 TO 80 YEARS OLD WHO CAN BARELY WALK AND THEY GET SOMEWHERE VIA GOES ON AND THEY TRY TO GET ANOTHER RIDE AND IT'S UNAVAILABLE FOR THERE NOT TO BE SOME KIND OF SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN CALL A SPECIFIC VEHICLE OR A SPECIFIC PROGRAM TO HELP IN THOSE TIMES.

I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT THE COST WOULD BE A BURDEN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN SOME OF THE FIGURES THAT I'M SEEING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING FARE STRUCTURE.

I DON'T KNOW IF GIVEN PROVIDE ZERO FARES IS GOING TO INCREASE BUS RIDERSHIP.

IF THEY WANT TO EXPERIMENT WITH THAT.

I'M NOT GOING TO SIT THERE AND SAY YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH SO.

I'M OKAY WITH ALL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.

I THINK WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S JUST GOOD THAT WE HAVE HAD AT LEAST TODAY, HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP PEOPLE UTILIZE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MORE AND MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT AND MORE RELIABLE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

AND I WANT TO PICK UP THERE AND AND WE'VE HEARD THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES ABOUT THE VALUE OF BUS SERVICE VERSUS INDIVIDUAL CARS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I LANDED.

YOU SELL IT SAID IT MORE ELOQUENT THAN I.

BUT HERE'S MY CONCERN.

BETTER, BETTER ARTICULATED.

UNTY HAS A BUS SYSTEM THAT THEY PAY FOR IT IF THEY'VE NEGOTIATED THAT RATE WITH CTA.

MY CONCERN IS THIS WE'VE INTRODUCED THE GO ZONE AND IF THE GO ZONE IS DISPROPORTIONATELY USED AROUND YOU AND T WHEN IT'S TIME TO RENEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT AND IS GOING TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND SAY, OH, NO, LOOK, OUR BUS USAGE IS DOWN OR IT'S HELD STEADY, WE ONLY HAVE TO PAY YOU OR THE CONTRACT SHOULD BE X, THAT'S NOT A TRUE REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THEY'RE USING THE OTHER SERVICE SOURCES.

SO I WANT TO GET A TRUE NUMBER FOR HOW MUCH YOU AND T SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THEIR BUS SERVICE AND AT THE SAME TIME GIVE RELIEF TO GO ZONE SO THAT WE DO WE DON'T HAVE THE CITIZENS SAYING, HEY, I COULDN'T GET A RIDE DURING THESE PEAK TIMES BECAUSE IT'S BEING OVER.

IT'S BEEN MAXIMIZED AROUND CAMPUS TO FREE UP SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WHO DO NOT HAVE A FREE BUS SERVICE THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. AND SO THAT'S REALLY MY POINT IS MASS TRANSIT FOR HIGH DENSITY AREAS GOES ON TO SUPPLEMENT THAT LAST MILE. IT'S HARD TO SAY GOES ON THE UNDER IS THAT LAST MILE IS WHERE IT'S GOING.

I MEAN I DON'T I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE DATA, BUT I JUST THINK TRULY MY FOCUS IS WHEN IT'S TIME TO RENEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT WITH YOU.

AND T IF THE NUMBERS AREN'T DIALED IN, IT'S GOING TO AGAIN, AGAIN BE A CONTRACT WHERE I BELIEVE IS UNDERREPRESENTED.

THE NUMBERS ARE UNDERREPRESENTED.

ERGO, UNDER COLLECTED.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT COLLECTING AT COST AND I WANT TO TRY TO PUT OUR TRANSIT ASSOCIATION IN A POSITION TO COLLECT IT COST AND INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO USE THE BUSSES VERSUS THE AND I KNOW IT IS A CONVENIENCE AND EVERY BIT OF IT IS A CONVENIENCE OF GOES ON.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY THING.

AND AND THOSE THAT TALK ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION HAVE SAID THE VALUE OF MASS TRANSIT VERSUS INDIVIDUAL CARS TAKING PEOPLE TO INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS.

SO THAT'S JUST WANTED TO ADD CLARITY TO THAT.

AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBER WATTS SAID IT A LITTLE BETTER THAN I, SO BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION THERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU AND COUNCILOR SCHWARTZ.

I APPRECIATE THE ADDED CLARITY YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND BETTER.

I ACTUALLY WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT IT'S WORTH HAVING THE CONVERSATION TO TO TO LOOK AT HOW THOSE ARE BALANCED PROPERLY.

I YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHEN CITIZENS ARE USING U.A.

BUSSES AS THEY CAN, WHEN THEY'RE USING GO ZONE, WHEN WHEN STUDENTS WHO ARE CITIZENS ARE USING U.A.

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I SOMETHING THAT COUNCILOR WATTS SAID PROMPTED ME TO THROW MY HAND UP, AND THAT WAS REMINDING, I THINK WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SENIOR CITIZENS AND STUDENT BALANCE, AND THAT REMINDED ME WE HAD A CONVERSATION LAST TIME I THINK WE HAD CONSENSUS ON.

BUT I'LL BRING IT BACK UP AND WE CAN EXPLORE THAT.

AND THAT WAS SEEING IF WE COULDN'T GET SOME ADDITIONAL ROUTES OUT TO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF COVERAGE IN THAT AREA OF OF ANY SORT, BUSSES GOES ON, WHATEVER.

THEY WERE HAVING A PROBLEMATIC TIME ENGAGING IN EMPLOYMENT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A TOPIC THAT I THOUGHT WE HAD CONSENSUS ON LAST TIME TO TO INCREASE ROUTES OUT TO THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? CATHERINE DAVIS. THANKS, MARY.

YEAH. I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE THIS FURTHER KIND OF CLARIFICATION ON THE GEOFENCING ISSUE.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE ON THE SOLUTION, BUT THAT QUESTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT GOES ON AT THE UNT CAMPUS IS NOT EXACTLY OVER THE LAST MILE.

I THINK THAT'S THE PART THAT I KEYED IN ON FINDING SOME SOLUTION FOR THAT.

SO THOSE RESOURCES ARE BETTER USED.

THE WHOLE GO ZONE OPERATION IS SET UP AROUND ZONES.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DEAL.

SO FIGURING OUT WHERE THOSE BOUNDARIES NEED TO BE WITH RELATION TO THE CONTRACTED SERVICE AT YOU AND T I THINK WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO HAVE.

I JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION BEFORE I'M READY FOR LIKE A REAL FIRM POLICY DIRECTION THERE.

AND THEN TO COUNCILMEMBER BECK'S LAST POINT.

I THINK KIND OF IN GENERAL TERMS, THE MOST SERVICE WE CAN GET FOR OUR BUCK IS IS REALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY THAT WE NEED A.

A SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTION THERE.

BUT I'M I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED BETTER COVERAGE THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO GET PAID FOR.

AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT INTO THIS GOES ON VERSUS FIXED ROUTE CONVERSATION.

THE FIRST PLACE IS BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THE FIXED ROUTES THAT WE HAD.

SO I'M GENERALLY ON BOARD WITH WHAT HE'S SAYING THAT'S INCREASING FIXED ROUTE COVERAGE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A DISCUSSION. I'M NOT QUITE READY TO SAY THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

GOT IT. COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S.

SO, MAYOR, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS HERE.

WE'RE SORT OF THE THE AGENDA IS SORT OF TO DISCUSS PRIORITIES.

ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH LIST AND SEE IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS TO MOVE IT FORWARD FOR ADVOCACY AT THIS TIME? OR HOW HOW ARE WE I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE VERY BLUNT.

I MEAN, I'VE PUT OUT A SPECIFIC POLICY OF CAN WE ASK THEM TO LOOK INTO CREATING SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF SENIOR CITIZENS WHO LACK WHO ARE VERY CHALLENGED, MOBILITY WISE, THAT THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC PROGRAM TO HELP ASSIST THOSE PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET STRANDED BECAUSE OF CALL UNAVAILABILITY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, DOES EVERYBODY ARE THERE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD? ARE WE GOING TO SAY THAT ON EACH ONE OF THESE? HOW EXACTLY DO WE PROCEED FROM HERE? YEAH, NO, I WAS JUST ABOUT I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE AND THEN THAT MAYBE THAT'LL SPUR MORE DISCUSSION, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT I HAVE.

AND SO, YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET ALL THE FEEDBACK AND THEN BEGIN TO, TO WHITTLE THAT DOWN.

GREAT, GREAT.

AND WHEN JUST AND SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

WHEN IS IT THAT THE CEO IS COMING TO SPEAK TO US.

MAY 2ND. OKAY.

GOT IT. SO YOU'LL INTRODUCE HIS NEW HE'S COMING ON MAY 2ND TO GIVE AN UPDATE AND DO HIS TO DO A INTRODUCTION OF HIS NEW EXECUTIVE STAFF THAT WERE RECENTLY HIRED.

AND I THINK EVEN IN ADVANCE OF THAT, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

AND THEN HE'S HE'S GREAT ABOUT RESPONDING TO THOSE THINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE WE WE LOOP IN OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON KIND OF WHERE WE DID FIND TRACTION.

AND SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. IN SUMMARY, GEOFENCING, I FOUND THAT THERE WERE THERE IS MORE OF A PULL, A CONSENSUS AROUND, MORE INFORMATION AROUND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WITH THAT AND THAT STRATEGY AND THAT DATA THEN AS NOT AS MUCH SUPPORT FOR A POLICY POSITION THERE, BUT MORE A REQUEST REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, MAYBE THAT DATA AROUND THAT DECISION AND KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, THEN I DID.

THERE ARE THERE DOES SEEM TO BE CLEAR POLICY GOALS OR AT LEAST FOR PEOPLE ARE MORE THAT WANT TO HAVE A POLICY GOAL OF

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AND SO TO THAT END, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D NEED TO DRAFT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO, TO ASK THEM TO BRING THAT UP TO TO THE BODY AND UNDERSTANDING WE WERE ONE OF ONE OF A FEW VOTES.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HEARD TODAY.

A GENERAL STATEMENT AROUND SERVICES.

YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE MAXIMIZE USAGE AND MINIMIZE EXPENDITURES.

THERE'S A GENERAL STATEMENT AROUND THAT.

THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WERE IN SUPPORT OF THAT THAT CAME FROM MAYOR PRO TEM.

COUNCILMAN WATTS, AGAIN, KIND OF SHARED THAT THAT OVERVIEW THOUGHT.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I'VE HEARD FROM TOUCH ON THAT AND JUST THE GENERAL DISCUSSION AND YOU CAN COME WE CAN COME BACK AND CLEAN THAT UP IF NEED BE.

THE HOTSHOT SERVICE, THAT WAS ONE THAT COUNCILMAN WATTS TOUCHED ON.

I AGREE WITH HIM THERE WE.

I THINK THAT'S WARRANTED.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE THERE.

SO WE'RE MISSING A FEW THERE, IF THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY. SO THERE'S THAT.

WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT ONE? WHICH ONE WAS THAT? MAYOR CERTAINLY. SO THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A HOT SHOT SERVICE IS.

BUT IT'S WE IT'S BASICALLY ONE OR TWO VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

IF SO, I FORGET WHAT'S THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME? I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, BUT THIS IS MR. FULMER. YEAH, NOT ONLY HIM, BUT THEN THERE'S A GENTLEMAN THAT.

ON A WEEKEND, I GOT A CALL.

HE WAS STRANDED AT TARGET OR WAL MART AND COULDN'T GET THROUGH.

SO, YES, THIS IS A BIG ONE.

AND DONALD COX HAS MENTIONED THAT HE WROTE A LETTER AS WELL.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A FEW FOLKS BUT THAT THAT SO THAT HAS SUPPORT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A REQUEST TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT AND THEN.

THE ROUTES TO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT. WE HAD ROUTES THAT WENT TO ALLIANCE AIRPORT TO DID FOR JOBS.

SO IT WOULD JUST IT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE THAT WE DO THE SAME IN OUR IN OUR IN OUR CITY IF THE REST OF THE BOARD SUPPORTS THAT.

BUT IN THAT INSTANCE, THERE WERE ONLY THREE PEOPLE AND THERE WAS A KIND OF A THERE WAS ALSO A FEW THAT WERE MORE DISCUSSION VERSUS DIRECTION.

SO LET'S LET'S OPEN THAT BACK UP.

BUT IT'S IT'S AGAIN, BUS ROUTES TO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.

FOCUSED AROUND EMPLOYMENT AND THE BENEFIT OF HAVING BUS SERVICE IN THAT AREA.

AND THERE IS AGAIN THERE'S THREE FOLKS THAT SAID SOME VARIATION OF YES I SUPPORT THAT AS A POLICY OR YES, GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER.

AND THAT'S THOSE ARE MY NOTES.

YES. I'LL ADD I'LL ADD MY VOICE TO THAT LAST ONE.

SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY USED TO HAVE THAT.

AND I REMEMBER THAT.

THEY WOULD MEET EITHER A VAN PULL OR THEY WOULD MEET AT A PLACE AND THE BUSSES WOULD TAKE THEM.

SO I THINK THAT'S A WORTHY DISCUSSION.

BASED UPON PRIOR DATA.

AND THEN ALSO HOW MANY JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED OUT THERE IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

SO I'LL ADD MY VOICE TO THAT, TO THAT DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT ONE HAS HAS POLICY.

MAYOR PRO TEM, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO NOT NECESSARILY LIMIT OURSELVES TO JUST BUSSES.

I THINK THAT PROBABLY WILL BE THE MOST RIDERSHIP EFFICIENT, BUT SERVICE TO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA, NOT NECESSARILY WHATEVER THAT SERVICE MAY ENTAIL.

SURE. OK.

YEAH, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

DRINK OK.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES FROM BERT? OH, I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GETTING READY TO DIVE INTO THESE AREA PLANS THAT THE THE RIDERSHIP SERVICE IS INCLUDED IN THAT TO AS WE'RE GROWING NORTHEAST, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING TO BE COMING FAST TOWARDS US.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE IS LOCATED IN THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.

THANK YOU. AND I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

ALL RIGHT. SO, YEAH, IF STAFFORD CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME KIND OF MAKE SURE YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOP THEM IN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT BASICALLY CLOUD SERVICE GEOFENCING YOU AND T LOOKING AT THAT ROUTES TO SERVICES TO INDUSTRIAL AREAS, GETTING THE MOST SERVICES FOR OUR DOLLAR, MAXIMIZE USAGE, CREATING PROGRAM TO ASSIST FOLKS WHO ARE STRANDED DUE TO SERVICE CALLS.

THE HOT SHOT SERVICE, THE NO FARE STRUCTURE REMOVE FARES.

WE HAD ONE OTHER ONE THAT WAS FIGURING WHERE BOUNDARIES LITERALLY WERE WITH GO ZONE.

KNOWING WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOT ENOUGH.

YEAH. SO THE NO.

ONE WERE THE BOUNCE GEOFENCING AROUND YOU AND TT GOT DID NOT GET POLICY SUPPORT.

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SO DATA AROUND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO INFORM THAT DECISION SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE ADVOCATE FOR VIA OUR REPRESENTATIVES IF IF THAT DATA TELLS A STORY.

YEAH. GOT IT.

OK. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT TAKES US TO ITEM D, WHICH IS ID TWO, THREE, 311 RECEIVED REPORT.

[D. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the participation of the City of Denton in a Texas Woman’s University preschool project targeting low-income households. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

SO, MAYOR, I'M GOING TO KICK IT OFF AND THEN I'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.

BUT WE HAVE TWO GUESTS HERE, CHRISTOPHER JOHNSON AND AMY O'KEEFE FROM TEXAS WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY TO BE HERE.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I DO WANT TO SAY THIS.

IT'S VERY RARE THAT A CITY GETS AN OPPORTUNITY, ONE, TO PARTNERSHIP ON SUCH KEY ISSUES THAT MOST OF THIS COUNCIL HAS RAISED AS SERIOUS CONCERNS AS WE FACE THROUGH COVID. AND THEN, OF COURSE, A GROWING CITY.

I KNOW AT LEAST TWO OR THREE OF YOU HAVE MADE IT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS, BUT NOT ONLY PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS, BUT TO HELP MAKE SURE KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL READY TO LEARN IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO IT IS THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING I'M VERY CLOSE TO, HAVING WORKED IN THIS AREA WHEN I WAS IN VIRGINIA BEACH AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL CHILDREN WERE READY TO GO WHEN THEY WERE READY TO START SCHOOL, THAT THEY WERE READY TO LEARN.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL GIVE YOUR ATTENTION TO RYAN AND TAKE SERIOUS NOTE AS TO WHAT OPPORTUNITIES LIE HERE FOR US.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SARAH. RYAN ADAMS, CHIEF OF STAFF.

AND WE HAVE PREPARED THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION.

THERE WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF INFORMATION IN YOUR BACKUP.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TODAY IS COUNCIL DIRECTION TO TO MOVE FORWARD IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH TWU AS THEY WORK ON PROVIDING A NO COST PRESCHOOL FOR AREA CHILDREN. SO TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND, AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED IN OUR CITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

IN FACT, WE HAVE AN INITIATIVE IN THE PLAN THAT IS JUST AS YOU SEE IT, EXPLORE AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE OPTIONS, AND THAT'S NESTED UNDER OUR ONE OF OUR COUNCIL'S FOCUS AREAS THAT THEY DECIDED ON BACK, I BELIEVE, IN 2022, IN JUNE, AND AFFIRMED THAT'S THE FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY, A KEY FOCUS AREA OF THE COUNCIL. THEY WERE ADDRESSED IN OUR 2022 COMMUNITY SURVEY, AS IF YOU RECALL BACK WHEN WE PRESENTED THAT YOU MAY HAVE READ, WE DID HAVE A QUESTION ON AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE, AFFORDABLE QUALITY, CHILD CARE AND PRESCHOOL.

AT THAT TIME, 31% OF THE RESPONDENTS RATED THE AVAILABILITY OF QUALITY CHILD CARE PRESCHOOL AS GOOD OR EXCELLENT, AND THE REMAINDER BEING RATED AS EITHER FAIR OR POOR.

AND THAT WAS A DROP OF 16 BASIS POINTS SINCE 2016.

THERE'S ALSO DATA TO BACK UP LOCAL CHILD CARE NEED THE UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY ASSESSMENT.

IN THAT ASSESSMENT, THEY NOTED THAT COUNTY CHILD CARE CAPACITY DROPPED BY ABOUT 25% FROM MARCH OF 2020 THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2021.

ADDITIONALLY, OF ALL THE CHILDREN IN THE LOW INCOME CATEGORIES IN THAT STUDY, ONLY 18% WERE ENROLLED IN CHILD CARE.

THEY ALSO GAVE SOME STATISTICS ON SUBSIDIZED OR SCHOLARSHIP CHILD CARE.

AND THAT'S OVER IN THE SIDEBAR.

WHAT'S NOTABLE IS THAT FOR THE COUNTY, ALL OF DENTON COUNTY, OF ALL THE CHILDREN WHO HAD WORKING PARENTS AND ATTENDED CHILD CARE, ONLY 29 OF THOSE HUNDRED SEATS WERE SUBSIDIZED OR SCHOLARSHIP ELIGIBLE.

AND THEN WE PROVIDED SOME OTHER STATISTICS THAT HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF DENTON, T.W., AND THEIR DISCUSSIONS WITH BEZOS ACADEMY, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. THEY INDEPENDENTLY EVALUATED THE LOCAL NEED, THEIR ANALYSIS UTILIZED CENSUS DATA, AND THEIR ESTIMATE WAS UP TO 400 DENTON CHILDREN WERE IN NEED OF CHILD CARE OR PRESCHOOL SERVICES.

SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP.

WHICH BRINGS US TO BEZOS ACADEMY.

SO A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

THIS IS A NONPROFIT THAT WAS STARTED BY AMAZON.

JEFF BEZOS, HENCE THE NAME.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PROVIDE NO COST, MONTESSORI STYLE PRESCHOOL FOR INCOME ELIGIBLE 3 TO 5 YEAR OLDS.

AND SO THEY TARGET COMMUNITIES WITH A CHILD CARE OR PRESCHOOL GAP, PARTICULARLY FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

I DID NOTE ON THE SIDE THAT THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF TEXAS LOCATIONS, FOUR IN DALLAS, NOT INCLUDING TWO THAT ARE STARTING UP SOON, FOUR IN HOUSTON, ONE IN LANCASTER.

AND THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF PARDON ME, A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS IN WASHINGTON STATE AND FLORIDA.

AND THERE THEIR PROGRAM HOW THEY DO THIS IS THEY FIND A LOCAL HOST ORGANIZATION.

THAT ORGANIZATION PROVIDES THE FACILITY.

AND BEZOS ACADEMY FUNDS JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE.

THEY OPERATE THE PRESCHOOL.

THEY FUND IT. THEY PROVIDE THE TRAINED AND LICENSED STAFF.

AND THIS IS FOR A FULL DAY, YEAR ROUND PRESCHOOL EDUCATION FOR THOSE 3 TO 5 YEAR OLDS.

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AND SO BEZOS WILL COME IN AND OPERATE, AND THEY PROVIDE EVERYTHING CRADLE TO GRAVE, SO TO SPEAK, THAT INCLUDES SUPPLIES, MEALS, TEACHERS, SNACKS, FULL DAY, YEAR ROUND PRESCHOOL.

SO TEXAS WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY AND BEZOS ACADEMY HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS TO LOCATE ONE OF THEIR ACADEMIES HERE IN DENTON.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE DO HAVE IS SARA SAID A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES HERE.

THEY'RE TARGETING AN AREA JUST NORTH OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE OFF THE MAIN CAMPUS FOR TWU, WHERE THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT A SCHOOL FOR BASIS TO OPERATE.

THIS WOULD PROVIDE SERVICES FOR AN INITIAL TEN YEAR TERM.

IT COULD BE RENEWED THEREAFTER FOR PERIODS OF FIVE YEARS AND HAS AN ESTIMATED OPENING DATE OF 2024.

THE PROJECT'S CURRENT SCOPE IS FOUR TO PROVIDE FOUR CLASSES FOR 80 STUDENTS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS NO COST PRESCHOOL FOR 3 TO 5 YEAR OLDS.

16 OF THOSE SPOTS WOULD BE RESERVED FOR TWU STUDENTS AND STAFF.

THE REMAINING DOING A LITTLE MATH HERE, 64 SPOTS WOULD BE FOR CITY OF DENVER RESIDENTS AND ONLY FOR CITY OF DENTON RESIDENTS.

SO THIS PROVIDES THE CITY WITH A PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY AND ONE THAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE HAD THEIR DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE IF THE CITY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROJECT.

WE COULD DO SO TO EXPAND THAT CLASSROOM CAPACITY.

AND I'VE GIVEN YOU A COUPLE OF TABLES WITH TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS A PARTNERSHIP OPTION ONE, AND THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH W, WE COULD EXPAND A CLASSROOM'S WORTH OF CAPACITY.

SO 20 ADDITIONAL STUDENTS TO BRING THE AVAILABLE SPOTS FOR CITY OF DENTON, LOW INCOME STUDENTS FROM 64 TO 84.

AND THAT WOULD BE AN ESTIMATED CITY CONTRIBUTION OF ABOUT 750,000.

THE SECOND OPTION IS TO PROVIDE TWO CLASSROOMS WITH THE STUDENTS, BRINGING THAT ADDITIONAL NUMBER TO 40, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF INCOME ELIGIBLE DENTON STUDENTS TO 104. THIS IS NOT INCLUDING THE 16 THAT TWU WOULD PULL FROM THEIR RANKS, AND THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE 1.5 MILLION.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TODAY IS DIRECTION ON IF COUNSEL WANTS STAFF TO A, CONTINUE SPEAKING WITH T.W.

ON THIS PROJECT AND B, IF THEY PREFER ONE OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS.

AFTER RECEIVING THAT DIRECTION, WE WOULD PURSUE FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH T.W.

THAT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND IN THAT AGREEMENT, WE'D PROVIDE THE PARAMETERS OF THAT PARTICIPATION AND ENSURE THAT THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION WOULD RESULT IN THAT ADDITIONAL PRESCHOOL CAPACITY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, SHOULD ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION BE NEEDED FROM COUNCIL, AS WE BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP, BUILD THAT AGREEMENT, WE'D COME BACK IN A FUTURE WORK SESSION TO GET THAT DIRECTION. SO WE JUST HAVE THREE OPTIONS FOR COUNSEL'S DIRECTION TODAY.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SAYING YES OR NO ON THE PROJECT ITSELF.

IT'S SAYING YES OR NO. DO YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE TO PROCEED IN THAT DISCUSSION WITH TWU? AND IF SO, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON HOW MUCH CAPACITY TO PROVIDE? AND SO I WILL IN MY PRESENTATION, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM TWU HERE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT KIND OF SNACKS IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE? FROOT LOOPS? NO FRUIT SNACKS.

HEALTHY, NUTRITIOUS SNACKS FOR GROWING KIDS.

THIS IS THE ONE TIME WE NEED TO SAY, CAN WE GET A COUNCILWOMAN DAVIS AND THEN COUNCILMAN BYRD.

YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO IS GOLDFISH AND CHEERIOS.

OH, MAN. GOLDFISH. THEY GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.

SO, EXCUSE ME.

I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. THINK ABOUT GOLDFISH ARE SERIOUS.

THAT'S HOW EASY IT IS TO DERAIL ME.

SO I'M GOING TO PULL A CHRIS WATSON.

AND I DID SOME MATH OVER HERE, AND.

AND I THINK IT'S RIGHT.

BUT OPTION ONE FOR THE AVAILABLE SPOTS, IT BREAKS DOWN TO ABOUT 80 $900 PER KID.

NOW, THIS IS ONE TIME.

THIS IS A ONE TIME. THIS IS JUST TIME FOR THE LIFE OF THIS PARTNERSHIP.

AND IT COULD BE IT'D BE MORE, IT COULD BE MORE.

THERE'D BE QUESTIONS AT THE END ABOUT AS WE APPROACH THE END, LIKE DO WE RE AND WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING BUT ABOUT 80 $900 PER KID FOR THE AVAILABLE SPOTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDER OPTION ONE IN ABOUT 14,000.

WELL, 14 AND A HALF THOUSAND PER KID FOR OPTION TWO.

AND JUST BY WAY OF CONTRAST, RIGHT NOW, THE AVERAGE COST PER YEAR OF CHILD CARE AT THIS AGE IN TEXAS IS ABOUT 10,000 A YEAR.

IT'S $99,307 ANNUALLY.

SO BANG FOR OUR BUCK COMPARED TO THE PARENTS GOING OUT AND PAYING FOR PRIVATE CHILD CARE.

WE'RE DOING A LOT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THE AND I REALIZE THESE ARE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS.

YES. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BESIDES JUST THE NUMBER OF SEATS AND THE NUMBER OF KIDS THEY CAN HAVE.

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BUT ARE WE BUYING X NUMBER MORE BRICKS? ARE WE PAYING X NUMBER MORE? THEY'RE PAYING THE TEACHERS AND STUFF LIKE HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO THE DOLLARS AND CENTS OF THE DEAL? BECAUSE I'M JUST SEEING THE BIG ROUND NUMBERS.

BUT I THINK IT'S JUST THE CAPACITY OF WHEN YOU SEE THERE'S 400 KIDS IN THIS AREA THAT DO NOT HAVE CARE AND THEN YOU SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD CAPACITY, MEANING EITHER 20 ADDITIONAL OR 40 ADDITIONAL, IT'S JUST CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT NUMBER OF KIDS, PARENTS THAT NEED CARE. AND SO IT'S REALLY THE CAPACITY.

IT'S REALLY THE CAPACITY AND EXPANDING THE CAPACITY.

LET ME TRY TO BETTER ARTICULATE WHAT I'M SAYING.

I REALIZE THAT THE CHART IS VERY ROUND NUMBERS AND REALLY KIND OF A SIMPLE WAY OF PRESENTING IT FOR US.

BUT OPTION ONE 750,000 IS FIVE CLASSROOMS. FOR TWICE THAT AMOUNT.

WE GET ONE MORE CLASSROOM AND I GET THAT THE CAPITAL OUTLAY FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT JUST FOR BUILDING THE THING, BUT FOR TWICE AS MUCH WE ONLY GET ONE MORE CLASSROOM.

AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT THAT MEANS.

THE THE INITIAL COST ISN'T THAT 750 ISN'T FOR FIVE CLASSROOMS. FOUR IS THE BASE NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS THAT TWU IS FUNDING.

THE 750 IS FOR ONE ADDITIONAL CLASS, ONE ADDITIONAL 1.5 FOR TWO, AND THEN THE OTHER IS ANOTHER THAT HELPS ME BETTER UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, IT'S INCREMENTAL. THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SORRY, I NEEDED COUNSELING.

BERT. THIS IS MY PASSION HERE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT LEARNING BEGINS AT BIRTH, AND THE HIGH CAPACITY FOR LEARNING IS AT THAT VERY YOUNG AGE.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I AM GOING TO ASK US TO WRITE DOWN OPTION TWO FOR ME.

AND AND, OF COURSE, WE'LL CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION WITH T.W..

AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I WAS THINKING, OKAY, SO THERE'S NOT A BUILDING THERE RIGHT NOW.

OVER ACROSS THE STREET, BY THE WAY, THEY USED TO BE A BUILDING THERE.

AND BOTH OF MY DAUGHTERS.

YEAH. AND HAD THE CHILD CARE THERE.

BOTH MY BOTH MY BABIES WENT THROUGH TWU, SO AND THEY THEY DID VERY WELL.

I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION WITH T.W.

AND GO WITH OPTION TWO.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MAN FOR TIM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, I WAS WANTING A LITTLE CLARITY.

I MEAN, IS THIS THE SLOT OF THE OLD LAB SCHOOL THAT WE TEAR OUT AND PUT A NEW LAB SCHOOL THAT I JUST FIND THAT IRONIC? BECAUSE THE SLOT THAT WAS IN THE MAP WAS WAS IN ISA.

SO, LIKE, LET'S NOT TEAR OUT THE ISA.

BUT ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO PUT MY EDUCATION HAT IN CONFLICT WITH MY ENVIRONMENTAL ACT.

CAN'T HAVE THAT. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

I DO HAVE I HAD THIS SIMILAR QUESTION, AND I KNOW IT'S INCREMENTAL, BUT I HAD THE SIMILAR QUESTION TO COUNCILOR DAVIS.

IT'S BASICALLY UNDER 50,000 A CLASSROOM.

BUT AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A 50,000 FOOT VIEW.

SO SO LET ME LET ME GET PART OF IT OUT OF THE WAY.

YES. A, LET'S CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION NOW.

SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT OPTION B, ONE OR B TWO.

I'M NOT ARE WE PAYING FOR A BUILDING EXTENSION TEACHERS? WHAT WHAT WHAT IS WHAT IS ROLLED INTO THAT 750,000? INCREMENTAL ADVANCEMENT.

BECAUSE I DID THE SAME THING.

I ENDED UP WITH NINE K AND 14 K.

YEAH, WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR TEACHERS.

WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR ANY OF THAT.

WE'RE PAYING FOR CAPACITY FOR ANOTHER ROOM.

SO IT'S 20 STUDENTS, ONE ROOM, IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 40 STUDENTS AND ANOTHER 20, 20 KIDS.

SO WE'RE REALLY ADDING CAPACITY, ADDING ON TO THE BUILDING TO ADD CAPACITY.

WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR SNACKS OR TEACHERS, THAT'S ALL.

BEZOS SO THAT YOU'RE INCREASING THE STUDENT TEACHER RATIO, YOU'RE INCREASING THE SPACE SPACE FOR A NUMBER OF KIDS, FOR THE NUMBER OF KIDS THEY'LL PROVIDE, THE TEACHERS YOU HAVE.

BUT 80 IS WHAT C.W.

IS GOING TO DO AND BUILD.

AND TO BE REAL FRANK WITH YOU, MY CONVERSATION AND I THINK SOME OTHERS WITH WITH CHANCELLOR PHAETON WAS, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE.

THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR OUR COUNCIL FROM THEIR STRATEGIC AREAS.

AND IF THERE IS ANY WAY WE CAN INCREASE THE NUMBER OF KIDS THAT CAN ATTEND THIS SO THAT MORE CHILDREN ARE THERE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES NO COST TO TO ANYONE THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA.

CAN WE DO IT? THE ANSWER WAS WE CERTAINLY LIKE YOU TO DO IT.

IF YOU CAN DO IT, HERE'S WHAT THE APPROXIMATE COST ARE.

THAT'S WHY WE SAY APPROXIMATE AT THIS TIME, AND THEN IT'S JUST ADDING ON THE ABILITY TO ADD MORE, MORE YOUNG KIDS 3 TO 5 YEAR OLDS.

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I GUESS I'M NOT SEEING WE'RE I'M BEING ASKED TO MAKE THE DECISION BETWEEN 20 OR 40 AND I'M NOT SEEING THE LINEAR SCALABILITY AND I'M HAVING QUESTIONS ABOUT STUDENT TEACHER RATIOS AND WHERE ARE THE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS COMING FROM.

AND THAT'S SO IT'S NOT AN OBJECTION I'M CLEARLY ON BOARD TO LET'S DO IT, LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

BUT I THINK THE 50,000 FOOT VIEW, I NEED A 25,000 FOOT VIEW.

SO CHRIS, YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE 40.

CHRISTOPHER'S HERE AND MAYBE CAN GIVE YOU THAT.

BUT YEAH, IF WE COULD GET JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT WHAT DOLLARS ARE GOING WHERE FOR THE BUY IN.

SO TEXAS WOMEN'S IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITH BEZOS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND WE'VE COMMITTED FOUR AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD THE FACILITY.

SO THAT FACILITY WILL HAVE FOUR CLASSROOMS IN IT.

AND BEZOS REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE 20 STUDENTS, NO MORE PER CLASSROOM.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE 80 FROM.

THEN IF THE CITY WAS TO PARTNER WITH US, WE COULD EXPAND THE NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS AVAILABLE AND THAT GOES 750,000 FOR AN ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM, ONE AND A HALF OR TWO ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS. BUT THEY WOULD STILL COVER THE NEEDS OF THE ADDITIONAL.

THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS PURELY BUILDING COST.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PARTNERSHIP THAT BEZOS HAS, IS THEY WILL DO ALL OF THE, AS RYAN SAID, SORT OF CRADLE TO GRAVE FOR ALL OF THE COSTS EXCEPT FOR THE BUILDING. SO AS LONG AS THAT AN ENTITY PROVIDES THE SPACE, THEY WILL PROVIDE EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO THAT'S OUR AGREEMENT WITH BEZOS.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. THANK THAT.

THAT THAT HELPED ME A LOT.

IF IT IS LINEARLY SCALING LIKE THAT, THEN THEN I'D BE ON BOARD FOR THE OPTION TO THE 40.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILOR MCGEE AND.

AND COUNCILMAN WATTS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES.

BE. YOU MEAN NUMBER TWO, COUNCILMAN WATTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. BUT I'M GOING TO PULL A COUNCIL MEMBER, SO I'M GOING TO DO THE MATH.

BUT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T ABOUT LET'S MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS ROOM'S CONSTRUCTION COSTS, ARE WE NOT? WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SAYING WE'RE WANTING TO PROVIDE EITHER 750,000 OR $1.5 MILLION OVER, AND THAT'S OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR 40 OF OUR CITIZENS CHILDREN, GIVEN THE CRITERIA TO HAVE AN UNBELIEVABLE OPPORTUNITY AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.

BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SUBSIDIZING 40 SLOTS FOR TEN YEARS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AND I'M ON A GROUP WITH UNITED WAY THAT'S LOOKING AT THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.

THEY'VE GOT $30 MILLION IN A 14 COUNTY AREA TO SUBSIDIZE CHILD CARE FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY RECEIVE SUBSIDIZED CHILD CARE.

BUT GUESS WHAT? WE'RE NOT EVEN UTILIZING HALF OF IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE NOT ACCEPTING AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR CHILDREN WHO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA TO BE ABLE TO BE SUBSIDIZED WITH CHILD CARE.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THIS.

OVER 15, OVER TEN YEARS, IT'S $1.5 MILLION.

NOW, IF MY MATH CORRECT, THAT'S 150,000 A YEAR.

ALL RIGHT, TOTAL. NOW, WHEN YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 40 KIDS, I THINK THAT'S $303,750 PER CHILD PER YEAR.

NOW DIVIDE THAT BY 12 IN THE MONTHS.

NOW YOU'RE DOWN TO ALMOST 100 OR I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.

IT'S VERY, VERY LOW.

IN FACT, I'M GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I'VE GOT TO I DON'T WANT TO DO LIKE I DID LAST TIME AND NOT READ IT AND MESS EVERYTHING UP.

3750 DIVIDED BY 12.

THAT'S $312 A MONTH.

THAT'S LESS THAN $100 A WEEK.

SOMEBODY TELL ME.

I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS CHILD CARE, NOT SUBSIDIZE, IS ANYWHERE FROM.

DEPENDING IF YOU'RE AN INFANT OR A TODDLER, 800 TO 1000 A MONTH PER CHILD.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE BEING.

WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO BE A PARTNER WITH IS PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO FAMILIES OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD TO ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE THAT COULD CHANGE THE COURSE OF THEIR LIVES AND GENERATIONS TO COME BASED UPON THEIR EXPERIENCE.

MY ONLY NOT MY ONLY QUESTION, THE QUESTION THAT IS COMES TO MY MIND WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OPTION TWO I'M FOR BECAUSE IT'S SCALE.

I MEAN, IT'S WHETHER IT'S ONE OR TWO, IT'S JUST WHETHER YOU WANT TO SPEND AN EXTRA HUNDRED 70, 740,000.

MY QUESTION BECOMES, HOW DOES THE AND THIS CHRISTOPHER, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ANSWER THIS TODAY, BUT HOW DID THOSE 40 SLOTS, LET'S SAY IF WE GO UP TO OPTION TWO,

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IT'S JUST NICE TO KNOW BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL BE INUNDATED.

WITH APPLICATIONS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING.

SO SO THAT OPPORTUNITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHAT'S IT IS BEZOS ACADEMY THAT DOES THE LOTTERY SO THE PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, GUARDIANS WOULD WHO MEET THE CRITERIA WOULD SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION.

AND BEZOS DOES IT BASED ON A LOTTERY.

I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF DENTON THAT QUALIFY, AND WE MAY HAVE EVEN STAFF THAT QUALIFY WITH THEIR CHILD.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY AFFECT T.W., WHO'S SET ASIDE SPACE, BUT IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT MIGHT MEET THAT CRITERIA TO ALSO HOPEFULLY BE PICKED IF THEY IF THEY GET SELECTED THROUGH THE LOTTERY.

OKAY. SO THE 40 THAT'S NOT THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC EITHER CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO BE YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DENTON.

I MEAN, SO THAT'LL ALL BE WORKED OUT.

SO GO AHEAD. YOU DO HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT.

YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT.

ALL RIGHT. AND THERE IS AN INCOME THRESHOLD.

COUNCIL MEMBER TIMES THE POVERTY LEVEL.

WHAT WAS THAT, MADAM CITY MANAGER.

IT'S UNDER FOUR TIMES THE POVERTY LEVEL.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT FIGURE IS FOR OUR AREA? IT'S THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.

IT'S ABOUT 80. IT'S ABOUT 80 A YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH, IT IS ROUGHLY BECAUSE WE'RE BASED IN DALLAS.

THEY USE DALLAS NUMBER FOR US, IS THAT RIGHT? SO IT'S FOUR TIMES UNDER THAT THAT 80.

I MEAN, IS THAT SO YOU'RE TALKING 20,000, 25,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF KIDS AS WELL.

SO AND I DID INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR BACKUP.

THERE IS A TABLE THERE.

GOTCHA. YEAH, I SEE IT AGAIN, LIKE THE LAST.

I'M SORRY, I'M NOT INVESTED IN THE DISCUSSION.

THIS IS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS BEHIND THE SCENES AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAKE SUCH A HUGE IMPACT GENERATIONALLY.

GENERATIONALLY. SO I'M ALL FOR IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER I WAS ANYONE ELSE.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU.

THIS IS REAL BRIEF ON ON THE PAGE.

I'VE ALREADY SAID MY DIRECTION, BUT ON THE ON THE PAGE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE UNITED WAY.

AND YOU USE THAT AS BASELINE NUMBERS.

YES. LET'S LET'S NOT USE COVID NUMBERS, COVID YEAR'S NUMBERS AS OUR BASELINE.

WE ALL KNOW THOSE ARE ANOMALY NUMBERS.

SO I KNOW THIS FEELS PEDANTIC OF ME, BUT IF WE'RE BEING USED TO USE THEM AS A COMPARISON PURPOSES AND WE'VE GOTTEN APPROVAL FOR THIS, I JUST THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOT A GOOD BASELINE.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAD.

MAYOR PRO BUT THE OTHER THING IS ALSO WE LOST A LOT OF DAYCARE BUSINESSES THROUGH THE COVID.

THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO REALLY PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION AS RELATED TO THAT BECAUSE OF THROUGH COVID, BUSINESSES SHUT DOWN, DAYCARE BUSINESSES WERE ALMOST SHUT IN HALF. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN DAVIS, THANK YOU.

I ASKED MY QUESTION EARLIER BUT DIDN'T GIVE DIRECTION.

I'M BORED FOR OPTION NUMBER TWO.

ALSO, I'M OKAY WITH THE COVID YEAR IN THIS INSTANCE BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS CAPACITY.

AND WE HAVEN'T REGAINED THAT CAPACITY BECAUSE A BUNCH OF THOSE PLACES JUST DID NOT REOPEN.

AND WE KNOW A LOT OF THAT ANECDOTALLY.

BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE DATA IS GOING TO BEAR OUT WHEN IT'S ALL FINALIZED.

SO GENERALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT I THINK FOR THIS PARTICULAR METRIC, THE WHOLE POINT IS COVID AND THE COVID YEAR AND THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE CAPACITY FOLLOWING THE COVID YEAR, THEN I HAVE TO ASK, KIND OF WAITING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO ASK, BUT WHAT WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? AND VERY HAPPY TO SPEND IT.

NEED TO KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM.

AND I BET IT WASN'T IN ANY NICK SLIDES EARLIER.

IT'S NOT. AND IT WOULD MOST LIKELY I ASK CASSIE THIS AND I THINK HER ANSWER WAS THE RESERVE, DEPENDING ON IT, WOULD BE 1.5 FROM THE RESERVE.

YES. OKAY. GOOD DEAL.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS. I WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT ULTIMATELY I USE THIS AS KIND OF A BENCHMARK, JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND COST, ETC..

AND NOW OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT THE RESTROOM AT CARL JEAN SENIOR PARK, WHERE WE HAVE THE SPLASH PAD, COST US 800,000 TO BUILD.

AND SO WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THAT PERSPECTIVE, THE 1.5 GETS YOUR WHOLE HECK OF A LOT THAN MORE THAN TWO RESTROOMS, AND IT DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH MORE.

SO I SUPPORT OPTION TWO.

I ALSO SUPPORT AND THANK TEXAS WOMAN'S FOR THIS REASON FOR STEPPING UP AND THE THING THAT HADN'T BEEN MENTIONED I MENTIONED IT IN

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THIS IS JUST BEZOS'S ACADEMY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WHAT IT ALSO COULD MEAN IS JEFF BEZOS INDEPENDENT OF THAT, SAYS, HEY, I REALLY LIKE THIS CITY OF DENTON, I LIKE TEXAS WOMAN'S. I LIKE HOW THIS IS GOING.

AND I WANT TO INVEST FURTHER.

I WANT TO DO MORE IN DENTON.

AND SO IT HAS KIND OF THIS SPRINGBOARD EFFECT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ON THE RADAR, RIGHT.

AND. GOT.

YEAH. YOU GOT TO COME ON UP TO THE ARE WE TWINS? MEAN LIKE DANNY DEVITO AND.

AND ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PAT SMITH.

SO YOU HAVE SERVED. DONE. SO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION REALLY BEGAN IN A MARCH DAY, TWO YEARS AGO WITH SARAH AND MYSELF AT THE WHEELER HOUSE WITH SABRINA WATKINS, WHO IS WITH BEZOS ACADEMY.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO BEZOS AND SABRINA FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND WHEN THEY FIRST WHEN I FIRST APPROACHED BEZOS ACADEMY, THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT DENTON.

AND SABRINA WATKINS IS NOW SERVED DENTON BOARD MEMBER FOR THIS VERY REASON.

WOW. SO THAT WE CAN CREATE ADDITIONAL BEZOS ACADEMIES IN DENTON COUNTY.

THAT'S PART OF OUR LONG TERM VISION FOR SERVED IN SERVE.

LEWISVILLE IS THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS, BUT WE ARE REALLY HOPING TO BE STRATEGIC IN BUILDING THIS RELATIONSHIP.

I'M SO EXCITED FOR T.W.

AND TO SEE THE LAB SCHOOL GET REJUVENATED OR REBUILT, AND THAT'S A DENT, AN ICON.

AND SO I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS.

BUT WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT PATH AND WE'RE GOING TO FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP AND BUILD SPACES THAT PROVIDE AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE AND USE BEZOS AS A SPRINGBOARD TO DO THAT.

SO WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE THAT ONGOING CONVERSATION ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND BRING WHAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF WAY OF CAPITAL TO THE TABLE TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

EXCELLENT. YEAH. THANK YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH YOU IN THAT AGAIN TO GAIN EXPOSURE TO SHOW THE VALUE DENTON BRINGS TO AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, I'LL SAY THIS IT DOES HAVE A COMPONENT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOT HAD A KID THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO GET INTO PRE-K, IT HAS ANOTHER COMPONENT TO IT. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAVE CHANGED THIS SINCE BECAUSE MY MY DAUGHTER NOW IS 12.

BUT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET HER INTO PRE-K IN DENTON ISD, EVERYTHING WAS FULL.

AND THE REASON IT'S FULL AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A STATE LAW AND IT MAY STILL BE ON THE BOOKS, I'M NOT SURE.

BUT AT THE TIME THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT SAID IF YOU DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN A SPOT IN.

IF IF YOU'RE ENGLISH AS YOUR SECOND LANGUAGE, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN A SPOT IN PRE-K.

SO BECAUSE THE IMPORTANCE OF PRE-K TO GET YOU UP TO SPEED, TO GET YOU TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON A LEVEL ON GRADE LEVEL READING BY THE TIME YOU'RE IN THIRD GRADE.

SO BUT SO THOSE SPOTS FILL UP AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT HAVE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE TO KIND OF TRY TO FILL IN THOSE LAST REMAINING SPOTS.

AND SO IT FILLS UP FAST.

AND IT'S SO TO HAVE THIS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE KIND OF PRE-K AGES REALLY IS A BIG DEAL.

SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT WENT INTO WORKING THIS UP FOR FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND STICKING WITH IT.

AND THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF WHERE IT WILL BE AND STUCK WITH IT AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AND SO REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD AND SUPPORT THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO AND IT'S A GREAT USE FOR THAT PART OF THE CAMPUS.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE, YOU'RE ALWAYS THINKING WHAT GOES THERE AND HOW DO YOU SAFELY MANAGE THAT? WELL, THIS, THIS, THIS ADDRESSES THAT.

MAYOR, JUST REAL QUICK, IF I COULD, I WOULD I WOULD SAY THANKS TO PAT, BECAUSE PAT DID BRING THIS IDEA.

WE REALLY TRIED HARD TO MAKE IT HAPPEN FROM A CITY FACILITY, JUST COULDN'T MAKE IT WORK.

BUT I ALSO HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU TO T.W., BECAUSE USUALLY THINGS DON'T HAPPEN THIS FAST WITH A PARTNERSHIP.

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CHANCELLOR PHAETON.

I KNEW THIS WAS A PRIORITY BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS FOR FOR A COMMUNITY THAT HAS THAT KIND OF NEED.

BUT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP TO WHERE WE COULD LITERALLY COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO IT, BASIS WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IT. IT'S BEEN REALLY A FLUID PROCESS AND NOT CUMBERSOME AND NOT SO BUREAUCRATIC.

SO THANK YOU TO PAT, THANK YOU TO TWU.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, I'M GOING TO ASK CHANCELLOR PHAETON IF WE CAN LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF DOCTORAL STUDENTS WHO CAN FOLLOW THIS TO SHOW THE PROGRESS OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE FROM THE MINUTE THEY COME INTO THE PROGRAM AND WHERE THEY COME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND TO SEE HOW THAT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE.

BECAUSE STUDIES WILL SHOW THAT A CHILD THAT GOES INTO INTO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR PRE-K READY TO LEARN COMES OUT ON THE OTHER END, MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL FOR FOR THEIR

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OKAY. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, RON.

THAT TAKES US. AND THANK YOU, CHRIS.

APPRECIATE IT. SO THAT TAKES US TO ITEM E HAVE THE LAST COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE.

[E. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on potential amendments to City of Denton Code of Ordinances Chapter 2 Article XI. Ethics Sec. 2-272 Mandates and Sec. 2-273 Prohibitions. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

WHOLE DISCUSSION GIVES STAFF DIRECTION ON POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO CITY OF DENTON CODE OF ORDINANCES.

CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE. RULES 11 ETHICS SECTION 2-272 MANDATES.

HELLO, MARIN COUNCIL.

NOT NEARLY AS EXCITING AS CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, BUT I'M MADISON RORSCHACH.

I'M DENTON CITY AUDITOR.

ALSO THE STAFF LIAISON TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

I'M GOING TO PRESENT INFORMATION ON THESE POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE ETHICS ORDINANCE RELATED TO PAYMENTS FOR FINANCIAL ENGAGEMENTS.

JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND.

WE BEGAN THIS DISCUSSION KIND OF BACK IN APRIL OF 2022, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE BOARD OF ETHICS TO DISCUSS AMENDING THE ETHICS ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE DISCLOSURE OR RECUSAL TO PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY AROUND CITY BOARD OR COMMISSION MEMBERS INVOLVED IN A COUNCIL ELECTION, ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY IF THERE IS A FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER AND A BOARD MEMBER.

THE BOARD OF ETHICS DISCUSSED THAT IN AUGUST AND DID NOT COME TO A CONSENSUS TO GIVE DIRECTION AT THAT TIME.

THEN IN SEPTEMBER, THE COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO HOLD A WORK SESSION ON CREATING DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS FOR FINANCIAL ENGAGEMENT PAYMENTS BASED ON A TWO MINUTE PITCH.

WE HAD THAT INITIAL DISCUSSION IN DECEMBER OF 22 AND THAT RESULTED IN YOU GAVE DIRECTION AT THAT TIME.

AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES THAT DIRECTION.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IT, WHICH WAS THAT BASICALLY THERE WAS DIRECTION TO CREATE EITHER A RECUSAL OR RECUSAL OR DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT IN THE ETHICS ORDINANCE.

IF A CITY COUNCIL OFFICIAL OR A CITY OFFICIAL OR THEIR RELATIVE TO THE THIRD DEGREE HAD RECEIVED OR GIVEN PAYMENTS TOTALING OVER $600 TO A PERSON OR BUSINESS ENTITY IN THE LAST 12 AND THE LAST YEAR, AND SO INCLUDED A FIGURE ON THE SLIDE THAT SUMMARIZES THAT AS WELL AS SUMMARIZES WHAT THE CITY'S CURRENT DEFINITION OF RELATIVE IN THE ETHICS ORDINANCES JUST FOR REFERENCE.

SO BASED ON THAT DIRECTION, BASICALLY DRAFTED TWO PROPOSED LANGUAGE OPTIONS AROUND THAT.

ONE IS BASED THEY BASICALLY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME FOR THAT DIRECTION.

ONE IS JUST TO HAVE A RECUSAL REQUIREMENT OR ONE IS, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, OPTION ONE.

AND OPTION TWO CREATES A DISCLOSURE MANDATE.

SO I WOULD TAKE DIRECTION NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, WE'LL PULL THAT DOWN.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO, MASON, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

THIS IS SO, SO QUICKLY.

AND HELP ME WITH THE TIMELINE.

THIS IS YOU CLARIFYING THE DIRECTION THAT THAT THAT WE HAD STAFF HAD FROM COUNSEL AND THEN TAKE THIS DIRECTION TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

AND NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN SENT TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

NONE OF IT. THE BOARD HAS NOT SEEN ANY OF THIS.

THE COUNCIL HAS FINAL AUTHORITY OVER THE ETHICS ORDINANCE.

ANYWAY, I DID NOT RECEIVE DIRECTION TO TAKE IT TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS AT THE LAST MEETING.

IT WAS TO MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO WHEN WE WE.

THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE USED WITH THE BOARD IS THAT THEY GIVE ME DIRECTION TO DRAFT LANGUAGE.

I COME BACK WITH THE DRAFT LANGUAGE.

IT GETS BASICALLY FORWARDED TO YOU.

AT THAT POINT I'M DOING THAT EXCEPT FOR INSTEAD OF FORWARDING IT TO YOU, YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO SAY, YEAH, I PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE OR NOT.

SO ARE THESE TWO OPTIONS AND PROPOSALS IN THE LANGUAGE THEY'RE IN, NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT OR CRAFTED OR SEEN BY THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

THIS IS JUST SORT OF A FIRST PASS OF SOMETHING THAT WILL GO BACK TO THEM.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD, YOU CAN OR YOU CAN GIVE ME DIRECTION TO PUT IT IN THE ETHICS ORDINANCE.

NOW. YEAH, I, I UNDERSTOOD.

AND PERHAPS THAT WAS MY FEELING THAT THE FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET IN DECEMBER THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THAT SORT OF 50,000 FOOT VIEW OF RECUSAL VERSUS DISCLOSURE AND THE EXACT AMOUNTS.

AND WE HAD IT DIALED INTO 600 ISH AND THROW THAT BACK TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS SO THAT THEY WOULD DO A DEEP DIVE AND AND LOOK AT THE MODEL CODES AND AND REVIEW THOSE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT CONSIDERATION, COME BACK TO US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND OPTIONS RATHER THAN THIS.

THE WAY I'M INTERPRETING THE CURRENT PROCESS, WHERE WE'RE TAKING SOMETHING PARTIALLY CRAFTED AND SENDING IT TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS, I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE DOING IT THIS WAY OTHER THAN AS A CRUDE TEMPLATE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DO THE DEEP DIVE ON AND DIG INTO IT.

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SO. I'M OKAY SENDING THESE OPTIONS AS AS THE LOOSEST FRAMEWORK POSSIBLE.

SO MY DIRECTION, I GUESS, IS TO WE CAN SEND THESE AS THE LOOSEST FRAMEWORK POSSIBLE TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS AS SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT TIE THEIR HANDS AND LETS THEM DELIBERATE AND EVALUATE.

BUT I'M UNCOMFORTABLE SETTING SETTING THE FRAMEWORK THIS TIGHTLY AT THIS JUNCTURE, AND I'M DEFINITELY NOT COMFORTABLE INSERTING THIS INTO THE INTO THE ETHICS CODE AT THIS TIME. CATHERINE, WHAT'S.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE THE FACTS ON HOW WE GOT HERE.

WE GOT HERE BECAUSE BEFORE I GUESS IT'S BACK IN APRIL OF 2022, I BELIEVE, MADISON.

THAT'S CORRECT. THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAD A WORK SESSION BASED UPON SOME ACTIVITIES AND SOME EVENTS OF PAYMENTS TO PEOPLE WHO WERE VOTED ON BY THAT COUNCIL TO BE ON A BOARD AND COMMISSION WITHOUT ANY DISCLOSURE.

AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL PUNTED THAT TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS, SAID, HEY, WE WANT THE BOARD OF ETHICS TO CONSIDER THIS ISSUE AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

AM I CORRECT SO FAR? MADISON I THINK IT WAS IT WAS FRAMED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN HOW IT IS FRAMED TODAY.

AND BUT THAT'S CORRECT.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE BOARD OF ETHICS COULD NOT REACH A CONSENSUS ON EITHER A SIMILARLY FRAMED ISSUE OR SOMETHING THAT MAY HAVE A SLIGHT VARIATION. BUT THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS TO BRING ANYTHING BACK FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

CORRECT. SO THEY'VE LOOKED AT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS, OR AT LEAST FROM A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE ON THAT GENERAL ISSUE OR QUESTION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO US THAT THE THE THE BOARD OF ETHICS COULD NOT REACH A CONSENSUS.

AND THIS COUNCIL SAID, WELL, CAN YOU BRING BACK TO US SOME TYPE OF LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN THAT REGARD? SO WHETHER THIS GOES BACK TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS OR NOT, I'M PRETTY BENIGN ON THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FACTS ARE STRAIGHT.

THEY HAVE SEEN SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THIS, ESPECIALLY BASED ON THE SPECIFIC FACTS AND THE SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS SORT OF BORN FROM WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM.

SO I HAVE NO ISSUE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY, GOING THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSALS DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY HEARTBURN NECESSARILY SENDING IT BACK, EXCEPT IT WAS NOT CONSIDERED OR THERE WAS NOT A CONSENSUS REACHED WHEN IT WAS THERE BEFORE THEM IN THE PAST. SO.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS AND THE TIMELINES.

I HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS ABOUT.

NOT CONCERNS, BUT OBSERVATIONS ABOUT.

QUESTIONS. WHEN YOU SAY NOT YOU, MADISON, WHEN WHEN THE WHEN THE LANGUAGE SAYS A BUSINESS ENTITY, YOU'VE EITHER RECEIVED OR MADE PAYMENT TO A BUSINESS ENTITY.

FOLKS, WE DO THAT EVERY DAY.

WE GIVE MONEY TO BANKERS, WE GIVE MONEY TO PLUMBERS, WE GIVE MONEY TO ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT REFERRING TO.

AND I'VE LOOKED THROUGH SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S A WORTHY DISCUSSION WHETHER WE HAVE IT TODAY AND WE MAKE A DECISION TODAY OR GOES BACK TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

BUT THE POINT BEING.

IT WAS THE ISSUES THAT CREATED THIS DISCUSSION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE RESOLVED, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARYING OPINIONS.

BUT THE POINT BEING, I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A RECUSAL BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PAYING SOMEBODY, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AT ALL.

I MEAN, I'VE CERTAINLY RECUSED MYSELF IN THE PAST BASED UPON BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS, AND I'VE DISCLOSED IT PRIOR TO THE MEETING, WHICH IS THE OTHER PROPOSITION 13.

DID DID THE BOARD OF ETHICS SEE THE SECOND PROPOSITION, THE PROPOSAL? THEY HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE DISCUSSION OF DISCLOSURE DAY AND THEN DISCLOSURE TO THE BODY BEFORE IT'S BEEN.

THEY HAVE NOT. ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, I'M.

I'M OKAY EITHER WAY, EXCEPT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS.

AND FOR SOME REASON THEY COULDN'T COME TO A CONSENSUS FOR WHATEVER REASON.

AND SO I'M PRETTY I WOULD BE OKAY EITHER WAY.

I MEAN, IF WE DECIDE TO TAKE IT UP TODAY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

IF WE DECIDE TO SEND IT BACK TO THE ETHICS BOARD AND SAY, HEY, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

GIVE US SOMETHING. I DON'T THINK MADISON DID ANYTHING THAT SHE WAS SHE THIS WAS HER DIRECTION GIVEN AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

AND SHE'S DONE EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED HER TO DO UP TO THIS POINT.

ANYONE ELSE. COUNCILMAN DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MARY. THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION AS WELL, THAT WE.

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THEY HAVE DONE AS MUCH AS A DEEP DIVE AS THEY WANTED TO, AND IT WAS WITH A PACKAGE OF OTHER THINGS THEY CONSIDERED.

SOME OF THOSE THINGS CAME BACK TO US WITH CONCRETE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THIS ONE, THEY SAID THEY DID NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

COUNSEL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR DEAL.

YOU ALL NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

THAT WAS WHAT WE GOT BACK FROM THE ETHICS BOARD.

THERE IS NO FURTHER DELIBERATION THAT THEY NEED TO DO ON IT.

IF THEY WANT TO OPINE ON IT, THAT'S JUST FINE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO SET OUR OWN RULES AND WE SET OUR RULES FOR FOR OURSELVES AND FOR ALL CITY OFFICIALS FROM THAT COUNCIL CHAMBER, NOT FROM THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

WE KNEW BACK WHEN THE CODE OF ETHICS WAS ADOPTED THAT THERE WOULD BE CHANGES OVER TIME.

WHEN I CHAIRED THE FIRST BOARD OF ETHICS, WE LOOKED AT CHANGES.

WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT MAYBE WEREN'T GOING TO WORK OUT IN THE LONG TERM.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S COME UP AND IT'S COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO MAKE THESE KIND OF DECISIONS.

THE BOARD OF ETHICS DID NOT HAVE A CONSENSUS ON HOW TO GO FORWARD ON THIS KIND OF ISSUE.

SO IT'S BACK TO US.

IT'S OUR PREROGATIVE AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

I'M GOOD WITH OPTION TWO AND I'M OKAY WITH THE DISCLOSURE PROCESS.

IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD TO GO THROUGH THE DISCLOSURE PROCESS YOURSELF, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW.

BUT IT BASICALLY MEANS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE GIVE STAFF A LITTLE MORE LEAD TIME THAN KIND OF OUR CURRENT PRACTICE THAT YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM A DAY, TURN YOUR FORM IN ON TIME.

THAT'S NOT THAT ONEROUS AND IT'S PROBABLY HELPFUL FOR THE CITY SECRETARY AND THE CITY AUDITOR TO KEEP BETTER RECORDS THAT THEY GET THINGS A DAY AHEAD OF TIME.

I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SO I'M FINE WITH BOTH OF THESE CHANGES.

I PREFER OPTION TWO.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS CONVERSATION NOT UNDERSTANDING IS OPTION TWO IS BASED UPON PARTS OF THE CODE THAT ALREADY EXIST.

LIKE $600 DID NOT COME OUT OF NOWHERE.

I'VE GOT ABSTENTION FROM VOTING FORM THAT I FILLED OUT FOR THE THING I'M ABSTAINING FROM THIS EVENING.

IT'S GOT THE NUMBER $600 IN IT THREE TIMES.

THAT'S NOT A RANDOM NUMBER.

IT COMES FROM THE CODE.

THESE PROCEDURES ARE ALREADY IN THE CODE.

THIS PERSON AND BUSINESS ENTITY BUSINESS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT AT OUR WORK SESSION ABOUT THESE THINGS.

AND IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT, HEY, I SPENT 600 BUCKS AT THE KROGER AND WHAT IF KROGER HAS A ZONING APPLICATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF FOUR OF US HAVE TO RECUSE BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN DENTON AND YOU KNOW, YOU SPENT 600 BUCKS AT KROGER LAST YEAR OR WINCO OR WHATEVER.

THEN WE ALL GET TO VOTE ANYWAY.

IT'S ALL BUILT INTO THE CODE.

THIS IS NOT OUT OF THIN AIR.

THIS IS NOT NEW.

THIS IS ALL OF A PIECE AND FRANKLY, VERY WELL CRAFTED AFTER THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD THE LAST TIME.

SO I'M HAPPY WITH OPTION TWO AND THE DISCLOSURE THE PROPOSAL 13 DISCLOSURE PROCESS, BOTH GOING STRAIGHT TO A REGULAR, REGULAR MEETING AGENDA.

I'M READY FOR THESE TO BE IN FORCE.

AND YEAH, THAT'S MY DIRECTION.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN. WHAT? THAT WOULD BE MY DIRECTION AS WELL.

OPTION TWO ON THE DISCLOSURE NOTICE OF THE BUSINESS ENTITY AND THEN OF THE OPTION, WAS IT 13 WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO DISCLOSE AND IT'S GOT TO GET DISCLOSED TO THE BODY PRIOR TO THE MEETING WHERE THAT PENDING MATTER IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.

JUST I DIDN'T GET MY DIRECTION, BUT THAT'S I MEAN, I WANT TO PUT MY SUPPORT BEHIND THAT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I'LL JUST SAY THIS.

YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YES. IT'S AN UNFAIR STATEMENT TO SAY THAT THE BOARD, THE ETHICS BOARD, DID NOT HAVE.

THEY HAD THE FIRST SHOT AT IT AND THEY COULD HAVE CRAFTED ANYTHING THEY WANTED.

THEY GOT A BLANK SLATE.

AND BY JUST KIND OF, HEY, HERE'S SOME DIRECTION, NOT HANDED DOWN SOMETHING.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS.

THAT'S OUR JOB. IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT A BODY BOARD DOES.

WE GET SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM SEVERAL ENTITIES, CONSULTANTS, BOARDS THAT GET IGNORED EVERY WEEK AND OR ADOPTED EVERY WEEK.

THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE JOB.

YOU'VE GOT TO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE.

AND SO TO THAT END, I SUPPORT OPTION TWO.

AND HERE'S WHY.

BECAUSE THAT THIS DOES NOT FORECLOSE THE ETHICS BOARD FROM COMING AND RELOOKING AT IT.

RIGHT. SAYING, HEY, I SEE WHAT THEY ADOPTED.

I DON'T LIKE IT. CAN WE DISCUSS THAT? MADISON WOULD SURELY BE ACCOMMODATING TO THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT HERE'S WHAT IT DOES.

HERE'S WHAT I CAN'T DO.

I CAN'T GO ANOTHER DAY WITHOUT TAKING THE POSITION THAT IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO HAVE INFORMATION THAT MY PEERS DO NOT HAVE AND VOTE ON IT, HAVE SECRET INFORMATION, UNDISCLOSED INFORMATION, AND VOTE ON IT.

UNBEKNOWNST TO EVERYONE ELSE.

WE GET EMAILS.

EVERYONE GETS THE EMAILS WE GET.

MEMO'S EVERYONE GETS THE MEMO SO TO TO IT'S EITHER DO NOTHING OR DO SOMETHING THAT'S IMPERFECT BUT AT

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SO I CAN'T SIT HERE TODAY AND SAY I'M OKAY WITH MYSELF.

HAVING TO USING MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SECRET DISCUSSIONS, UNDISCLOSED DISCUSSIONS, AND THEN GO VOTE ON SOMETHING.

I WANT SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS TODAY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, MOVING IT FORWARD THAT SAYS, HEY.

WE ALL NEED TO HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION AND THEN THAT CAN GET PERFECTED BY THE THE THE ETHICS BOARD IF THEY IF THEY WANT TO TAKE IT BACK UP AFTER THAT.

BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE NOTHING. SO IF WE DO NOTHING AND LET ME AND LET ME THEN FOR THOSE TRACKING ALONG, LET ME LET ME GIVE YOU THE TIMELINE.

IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE WATCHING, THIS STARTED IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR.

SO IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, THIS WILL BE A YEAR LONG PROCESS.

AND WE STILL HAVE NOTHING ON THE BOOKS THAT SAYS, AT A MINIMUM, WE ALL HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION WE DO.

THE CITY MANAGER ADOPTED THAT, BUT YEARS AGO IT STARTED SENDING EMAIL TO EVERYONE AND HERE WE ARE.

WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THAT LOOP AS WELL AT THE DAIS.

AND SO FOR ME, I CAN'T GO ANOTHER DAY SAYING IT'S OKAY FOR ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO HAVE INFORMATION THAT'S NOT DISCLOSED TO ANOTHER.

WE ALL NEED TO HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION BEFORE WE VOTE.

THAT'S JUST THAT'S A BARE MINIMUM.

AND THEN IF THE. AND SO THAT'S AGAIN, MY DIRECTION IS OPTION TWO.

AND IF THE BOARD OF ETHICS WANTS TO TAKE THAT UP AND REFINE THAT AND MODIFY IT, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT AT LEAST WE DON'T GET TO A YEAR OF DOING NOTHING BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO PEOPLE THAT ASK QUESTIONS, HEY, WHY, WHY, WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING ANYTHING HERE? WHY ARE YOU NOT HOLDING YOURSELF TO A STANDARD WHERE YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE THOSE SORTS OF THINGS? SO THAT'S THAT'S MY DIRECTION.

ANYONE ELSE. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT OUT AND WE DON'T HAVE.

IT'LL JUST WE DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FOR IT.

OK. THERE YOU GO.

FOUR FOR BOTH 12 AND 13.

YOU GUYS, YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT SIMULTANEOUSLY, SO I CAN BRING UP TO 13 AS WELL.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT DOES THE DISCLOSURES CHANGES THE DISCLOSURE PROCEDURE.

YEAH, I DON'T I MEAN, IF THERE'S NOT THERE GO THEY GO HAND IN HAND, DON'T THEY? YOU NEED THE ONE. THEY'RE SEPARATE PROPOSALS TECHNICALLY.

SO YOU COULD YOU COULD SUPPORT ONE AND YOU COULD NOT SUPPORT THE OTHER.

SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THE DIRECTION.

NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. I THOUGHT IT WENT HAND IN GLOVE.

BUT COUNCILMAN DAVIS, MAYOR, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THERE'S NOT IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE.

THERE'S A LOT OF HEADS DOWN AND PEOPLE NOT ENGAGING IN THE CONVERSATION.

AND I HAVE TO SAY I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED TO AND I'M GOING TO SHOW A LITTLE FRUSTRATION.

I APOLOGIZE. YOU SAID A YEAR AGO WE SAT AROUND AND IT WAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MAKEUP OF THE COUNCIL, BUT NOT THAT DIFFERENT.

AND FOUR OF US SAID THAT WE WANTED TO SEND THIS HAD THERE'S A PITCH AND WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ITEM, THIS ISSUE.

AND SOME HEARTBURN THAT WE HAD ABOUT IT.

WE HAD SUPPORT FOR SENDING IT TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

IT CAME BACK. WE HAD ANOTHER CONVERSATION HERE IN THIS ROOM, AND THERE WAS DIRECTION CLEAR ENOUGH THAT THE CITY AUDITOR DRAFTED THIS LANGUAGE WITH ONE REALLY REMAINING QUESTION DISCLOSURE OR RECUSAL.

AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THERE'S NOT FOUR PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE ON THE BOOKS? YEAH. NO, IT'S.

AND NOW. AND NOW I'M GETTING THE BLANK STARES.

AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, I RESPECT YOU ALL.

I RESPECT YOUR.

I RESTRICT YOUR.

YOUR ABILITY TO. TO LEGISLATE JUST AS MUCH AS I GET TO AS ONE SEVENTH OF THIS BODY.

BUT THIS IS JUST A COP OUT.

THIS IS JUST A BIG COP OUT.

AND IF YOU SAY TO ME HERE IN A SECOND, WE'VE GOT TO SEND IT BACK TO THE EXPERTS.

THAT'S A COP OUT, TOO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S NOT TRUE.

SO THAT'S IT.

I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILOR MAGEE, THEN MAYOR PRO TEM.

MY NAME'S TAMARA. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DON'T MIND THE FRUSTRATION SOMETIMES.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IN THE DELIVERY PROCESS.

AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO IS SITTING HERE LAYING IN THE CUT, NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF SECRET INFORMATION BEING PASSED.

I'VE BEEN ON THIS BODY FOR, WHAT, EIGHT MONTHS NOW? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SECRET INFORMATION.

IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT COMING TO ME.

THAT'S WHY I, IN PARTICULAR, AM CHOOSING NOT TO LEND ANY SUPPORT TO THE CONVERSATION AT ALL.

NOW, IF THERE IS SOME SECRET THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCLOSED, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

BUT I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE THE EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS NECESSARY.

MAYBE IT IS.

I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, BUT THAT IS WHY I AM IN PARTICULAR NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

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AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD ALONG THE WAY WAS TO DO THE DEEP DIVE.

AND IN MUCH THE SAME WAY THAT I THINK WE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE DC.

RC AND IT EVOLVED INTO A BODY.

I THINK THAT WAS NOT.

THE ORIGINAL INTENT, BUT IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

YOU KNOW, THREE OF US SERVE ON THAT, AND WE DO THOSE DEEP DIVES.

WE DIG WAY INTO THE CODE THE STAFF SUPPORTS AND HAS US ASK QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK THE SAME WAY IS.

WAS WHAT MY IMPRESSION WAS.

WE CAN RECAST THE NARRATIVE BASED ON OUR EACH AND INDIVIDUAL RECOLLECTIONS, AND WE CAN TRY TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE BY BY SAYING, WELL, IT'S A COP OUT IF YOU VOTE THE WAY THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO.

I, I RECOGNIZE THE STAGECRAFT ON THAT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS.

BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, THE WHAT I HAD PUSHED FOR, AND I'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR, IS FOR THAT DEEP DIVE TO TAKE PLACE FOR FOR THOSE RESOURCES, FOR THAT BACKUP MATERIAL TO ALLOW US TO MAKE THAT INFORMED DECISION.

AND SO I'M STILL PUSHING FOR THAT, THAT DEEP DIVE, THE CONNECTIONS TO THE MODEL CODE, THE IMPACTS THAT THAT THE ANCILLARY IMPACTS THAT THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER THING THAT ARE KNOWN.

CAUSE I GUESS AT THIS POINT I WILL DO MY MY OWN RESEARCH ON THOSE MORAL CODES IF OUR BOARD OF ETHICS IS IS GOING TO DO IT.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE BOARD THAT WE EMPOWER TO TAKE ON THESE KINDS OF TASKS, TO DO THAT KIND OF DEEP DIVE, PERFORM THAT AND NOT PUNT AND KICK IT BACK.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

BUT RIGHT NOW, MY DIRECTION IS TO SAY, HEY, I STILL THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO BE INFORMED ON THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I THINK TRYING TO TO TO LIMIT THE UNDERSTANDING AND SAYING, OH, YOU'VE GOT TO PUT ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS AND MAKE A DECISION, I THINK IS IS AN EFFORT TO CONTROL THE FRAMEWORK. AND I DON'T ACCEPT THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

LET ME GO JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE.

SO YOU SPEAK TO MADISON COUNCILMAN.

WHAT'S. WELL, IF THE QUESTION BECOMES WHETHER THE ETHICS BOARD LOOKS AT IT OR NOT.

BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE REAL QUESTION IS.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE, YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LEND YOURSELF TO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S SECRETIVE INFORMATION OUT THERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE IF THERE'S SECRETIVE INFORMATION, YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S SECRETIVE.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THIS PLACE.

WE GOT TO THIS PLACE BECAUSE A SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER, PAUL MELTZER, PAID JORDAN VILLAREAL 4000.

TO BE HIS CAMPAIGN CONSULTANT.

AND DID NOT DISCLOSE THAT TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL BODY WHEN THEY VOTED TO PLACE MR. VILLAREAL ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

NOW, IS ANYONE SITTING IN THAT ROOM, DO YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY? DO YOU THINK THAT THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DISCLOSED? THAT'S THE ISSUE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER THE EXIT.

THE ETHICS DEPARTMENT ETHICS BOARD HEARS IT, WHETHER WE HEAR IT, THE QUESTION BECOMES THE THREE OF YOU WHO ARE SILENT.

DID YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY? MAYOR PRO TEM A DEEP DIVE.

A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT? OK WHETHER IT'S $600, WHETHER IT'S RECUSAL, WHETHER IT'S DISCLOSURE MODEL RULES.

WE UNDERSTAND ALL THAT AGENDA.

BUT THE VERY BASIC QUESTION.

IS DOES A COUNCIL MEMBER.

NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WHEN THEY PAY SOMEONE AND ENTER INTO A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP.

FORGET THAT WE'RE HAVING TO VOTE ON THEM AND NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO BE SILENT TO THAT ISSUE, YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND ALL YOU WANT.

THE DIRECTION OF WHETHER WE SHOULD DO IT OR IT GOES TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS.

THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL PUNTED IT.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT.

THEY SAID, WE WANT THE COUNCIL MEMBER, MELZER EVEN SAID FOR THE COUNCIL FOR THE BOARD OF ETHICS TO LOOK AT IT.

THAT'S A IT'S A HARD THING TO TALK ABOUT YOUR COLLEAGUE IN THE ROOM AND SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY NONE OF US WOULD THINK IS OKAY TO DO.

SO IF IF THE THREE THINK THAT IT'S OKAY.

TO BEHAVE IN THAT WAY, TO PAY SOMEONE AND TO NOT DISCLOSE TO YOUR COLLEAGUES BEFORE A VOTE YOUR RELATIONSHIP.

[02:30:03]

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO THAT, I DON'T NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE WE VOTE.

IF THAT'S HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, HAVE THE POLITICAL COURAGE.

WHETHER YOU THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE IT OR THE ETHICS BOARD SHOULD YOU DECIDE IT OR NOT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

BUT AT LEAST COME DOWN ON.

DO YOU THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT WHETHER THE ETHICS BOARD RECOMMENDS IT OR THIS COUNCIL RECOMMENDS IT, THAT ISSUE NEEDS TO GET RESOLVED? 4000 A TOTAL OF 12,000 PAID.

THE DISCLOSURE WAS FIVE MONTHS LATER FROM THE VOTE.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO REVISIT THIS ISSUE.

WE COULD HAVE HANDLED THIS IN A WAY THAT WOULD HAVE JUST.

THE PAST IS THE PAST.

BUT TO HEAR YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE SAY THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WHERE'S THE SECRET OF INFORMATION? IF YOU'D HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THAT BODY IN DECEMBER WHEN THEY VOTED FOR MR. VILLAREAL OR IN JANUARY, WHENEVER IT WAS, AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

THAT SECRET OF INFORMATION.

AND YOU COULD HAVE MADE THAT SAME STATEMENT.

WHAT SECRET OF INFORMATION IS OUT THERE? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

YEAH, BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS NOT REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE IT.

SO WHETHER WE SEND IT BACK OR NOT.

FAIR ENOUGH. BUT COME DOWN ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT THAT ISSUE TO GIVE THE BOARD OF ETHICS, IF THAT'S WHERE IT GOES, WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

OK MADSEN SO IN MY RESEARCH WITH THE BOARD OVER THE PAST YEAR, COUPLE OF YEARS, MANY OF THE ETHICS CODES WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST, HAVE A VERY GENERAL STATEMENT, NOT LIKE OURS IS WRITTEN WHERE THEY SAY BASICALLY IF YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE PUBLIC, YOU SHOULD RECUSE YOURSELF.

THE MORAL CODE HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR AS WELL THAT THE ONE THAT THE BOARD HAS KIND OF USED, WHICH IS THE WESTLAW MODEL CODE.

THIS INFORMATION WAS ALL PRESENTED TO THEM KIND OF DURING THIS TIME WHERE THEY WERE DISCUSSING THIS BACK IN AUGUST AS WELL.

THE MODEL CODE HAS SOMETHING ABOUT CLIENT RELATIONSHIPS.

IT HAS SOME SPECIFIC FINANCIAL THRESHOLDS AND TIMELINES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BACK UP AGENDA INFORMATION SHEET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AS WELL.

AND THEN I WOULD JUST ALSO ADD THAT THE OTHER KIND OF OTHER HALF OF ETHICS ORDINANCES THAT WE THE BOARD LOOKS AT WHEN THEY'RE REVIEWING JUST DON'T REALLY ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AS AS FAR AS LIKE PAYING SOMEONE OR OR AND FOR SOMETHING BASICALLY.

I HOPE THAT AT LEAST ANSWER SOME BACKGROUND QUESTIONS.

I CAN SUPPLY THAT BACKUP INFORMATION IN A FRIDAY REPORT OR SOMETHING, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THIS WEEK.

GOT IT. BUT BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE MY STATEMENT IS CORRECT, JUST IN SUMMARY, FOR ME, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT. CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS FOR DISCLOSURE.

IF IF I PAY SOMEONE, NOMINATE THEM.

THIS BODY VOTES ON THEM.

I DON'T HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT CURRENTLY.

CURRENTLY PER OUR CODE? THAT'S CORRECT.

GOT IT. OK. COUNCILMAN.

MCGEE. MR. MAYOR. SO AS HAS BEEN A REGULAR PRACTICE OF MINE SINCE I HAVE SERVED IN ANY TYPE OF ELECTED OFFICE ON THE DRIVE OVER, I PRAY FOR THREE, THREE THINGS, A READY RECOLLECTION OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE STUDIED, COURAGE AND WISDOM.

I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER WATTS CALLING OUT MY LEVEL OF COURAGE.

LET ME DEMONSTRATE A LEVEL RIGHT NOW FOR YOU.

I YIELD BACK NOT HAVING CONTRIBUTED TO THE DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL. MAYOR PRO TEM.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE WE CLOSE? YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I'LL.

I'LL JUST FORFEIT. GOT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO WE DON'T HAVE.

THERE'S. THERE'S ONLY THREE IN SUPPORT MYSELF, COUNCILMEMBER WATTS AND COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

SO IT FAILS. I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE MAY 21ST.

THE BOARD OF ETHICS IS BRINGING FORWARD A PACKET OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE ETHICS ORDINANCE.

AND SO THAT WAS IF SOMETHING HAD PASSED, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED KIND OF WITH WHATEVER GOES FORWARD THEN.

BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF A HEADS UP AND YOU COULD PROBABLY JUST CITY MANAGER, IF YOU'LL MAKE A NOTE, JUST REMIND ME THE ISSUE IS THERE'S AN EVEN NUMBER OF US. IF IT'S COMING BACK IN MAY 21ST, WE'LL HAVE AN UNEVEN NUMBER, SO WE'LL JUST BAKE IT INTO THAT AGAIN AND WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

COUNCILOR DAVIS, I NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BASED ON ON THAT LAST.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOT DIRECTION FROM MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT I LIKE TO DO, WHICH IS TO GO FORWARD TO AN AGENDA.

[02:35:07]

I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS THAT WE'RE SAYING.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WERE NOT.

BUT I DID HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBER WATTS THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY HEARTBURN ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS, THAT THE ORIGINAL WAY THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US WAS THE OPTION OF US GIVING THEM SOME DIRECTION ON WHICH OF THESE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE PREFER AND LETTING THEM HAVE ANOTHER CRACK AT IT.

SO IF THAT'S THE THING WE WANT TO DO IS, IS SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS AND HAVE THEM DO ANOTHER.

BY THE WAY, THANK YOU, MADISON, FOR REMINDING US ABOUT THAT CLIENT RELATIONSHIP DEAL, BECAUSE WE SAW THAT, TOO.

THAT CAME UP. WE DID ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT MADISON JUST TOLD US THE BOARD OF ETHICS DID IN OUR WORK SESSION HERE.

BUT IF THAT'S THE WAY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, I'M HAPPY FOR THE THE QUESTION TO GO BACK PROPOSAL NUMBER 12, BECAUSE IT'S THE 12TH OF THE MANY.

THEY ALREADY CONSIDERED PROPOSAL NUMBER THREE, BECAUSE THE 13 IS THE 13TH OF THE MANY THAT THEY'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED.

I'M HAPPY FOR THOSE TO GO BACK TO THEM WITH A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION NOW THAT WE WANT TO CLARIFY OUR OUR DIRECTION TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

MY DIRECTION WOULD BE THAT THEY CONSIDER OPTION NUMBER TWO, THAT IT'S NOT A RECUSAL.

IT'S A SIMPLE DISCLOSURE, JUST A PIECE OF PAPER SAYING WHAT YOUR BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP IS.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT SUPPORTS THAT? MAYOR PRO TEM. I'LL SUPPORT IT.

GOING BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

I'M SORRY. WAS THAT DIRECTION TO GO BACK? NO, NO, THERE'S.

THERE'S. THERE'S NOT. AND LET ME BE CLEAR.

LET ME GO ON THE RECORD. I WOULD.

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT IF.

IF. BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO DO SOME FUTURE THING AND DO NOTHING NOW.

RIGHT. THAT, TO ME, IS COUNTERINTUITIVE.

LET'S PUT SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS.

LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GETTING THE SAME INFORMATION AND THEN WE CAN SEND IT BACK TO THEM.

BUT IT'S BEEN IT'S COMING UP ON ONE YEAR.

AND SO I'M NOT WILLING TO DO NOTHING TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR SOME.

I'D RATHER JUST WAIT UNTIL MAY WHEN WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE HERE AND THERE'S NOT A33 ISSUE THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH.

AND I'VE GOT TO BELIEVE THAT FOUR PEOPLE THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOT TO BE FOUR PEOPLE THAT THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO SIMPLY, TO YOUR POINT, FILE A PIECE OF PAPER TO SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON SOMEONE THAT IS INDEBTED TO YOU OR YOU PAID OR YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH DOESN'T STOP YOU FROM VOTING, YOU CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

IT JUST SAYS YOU DON'T HAVE TO RECUSE.

YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY, I WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION BEFORE YOU VOTE.

AND IF WE CAN'T GET TO THAT BARE MINIMUM THRESHOLD, THEN THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE ETHICS BOARD CAN CAN HELP US WITH AT THAT PHASE.

WE JUST MAYBE NEED SOME TIME TO SLEEP ON IT AND COME BACK AND REVISIT.

BUT THAT THAT'S SUCH A LOW LEVEL THAT IT AFFECTS NOTHING.

YOU STILL GET THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE THINGS YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE.

YOU HAVE TO TELL EVERYBODY WHAT WHAT WHAT HAPPENED.

SO SO MAYOR MADISON MENTIONED MAY, BUT THIS IS THE PACKET OF CHANGES ARE COMING BACK IN MARCH.

I MEANT MARCH IF I SAID SO.

THE QUESTION IS, YEAH, NO, I WOULDN'T.

DO YOU WANT THOSE CHANGES COMING BACK IN MARCH OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? I MEAN, YES, I MEAN, YES, BRING IT BACK IN MARCH AND WE'LL SEE.

I MEAN, I HAVE A FEEL IF IF WE CAN'T GET THERE ON THIS AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A VERY LOW THRESHOLD.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CHANGES WILL, BUT IT'S A WORTHY CONVERSATION.

RIGHT. AND THERE ARE MANY TO CONSIDER.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

SO IT'LL BE GOOD. SO YES, IF YOU BRING IT BACK SCRAPS THAT DON'T BRING THIS BACK WITH IT, THAT'S PREMATURE BUT WE'LL, WE'LL REVISIT THIS IN MAY OR MAYBE IF SOMEONE ELSE HAS A DIFFERENT THOUGHT.

COUNCILOR DAVID I MEAN.

COUNCILOR WATTS. YEAH.

I DON'T SEE WHY THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH BRINGING THIS BACK IN MARCH.

I MEAN, I THINK IF THE ETHICS BOARD HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT IT PRIMARILY, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM THAT LONG TO DELIBERATE ON THAT.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL MARCH.

I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO DECIDE AND PEOPLE NEED TO GO ON THE RECORD OF WHAT IF THEY BELIEVE THIS IS AN ISSUE OR NOT.

SO I'M ALL FOR THE ETHICS BOARD LOOKING AT THIS AND COMING BACK IN MARCH.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING STUFF BACK, THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO BRING THIS BACK.

THERE'S JUST NOT DIRECTION.

I THINK IT'S THAT IMPORTANT. YES.

NO, I TAKE YOUR POINT. THERE'S JUST NOT DIRECTION TO DO SO.

THERE'S NOT FOR PEOPLE TO SAY, OKAY, SO SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE NOW JUST COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS SAID HE WAS IN FAVOR OF TAKING IT BACK TO THE ETHICS BOARD.

THAT IS CORRECT. I'M IN FAVOR OF TAKING IT BACK TO THE ETHICS BOARD.

MAYOR PRO TEM SAID HE'S IN FAVOR OF TAKING IT BACK TO THE ETHICS BOARD.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE OR COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD, YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS BACK TO THE ETHICS BOARD FOR FOR, FOR DISCUSSION.

[02:40:04]

YEAH. NOW THAT'S COURAGE.

NOW, THAT'S REAL COURAGE RIGHT THERE, MY FRIEND.

OKAY. WELL, YEAH.

GOOD. YEAH. THE THINGS IN MARCH.

THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THIS UP LATER.

I KNOW. WE'RE MOVING ON. OH, SO, MISS OK.

[F. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: 1). A Work Session to prohibit parking on Highland Park Road between North Texas Blvd. and Willowwood St, and to install no parking, towing enforced signs. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION.

GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON PENDING CITY COUNCIL REQUEST.

I KNOW.

HERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MONICA BENAVIDES, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL PENDING REQUEST FOR INFORMATION.

AS A REMINDER OF THE PROCESS, UP TO SEVEN REQUESTS WILL BE REVIEWED PER MEETING.

ONE PER COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF WILL INTRODUCE EACH REQUEST.

THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT MADE THE REQUEST WILL HAVE UP TO 2 MINUTES TO DESCRIBE AND JUSTIFY THEIR REQUEST, AND REMAINING ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL THEN HAVE UP TO ONE MINUTE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INDICATE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE USE OF STAFF TIME.

STAFF WILL RESPOND TO ALL REQUESTS WHERE CONSENSUS CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IS ESTABLISHED.

AS A REMINDER, THE AGENDA COMMITTEE WILL ASSIST IN SCHEDULING ITEMS RECEIVING CONSENSUS BASED UPON PRIORITY.

TODAY WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT CAME TO US FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

IT'S A WORK SESSION TO PROHIBIT PARKING ON HIGHLAND PARK ROAD BETWEEN NORTH TEXAS BOULEVARD AND WILLOW WOOD STREET AND TO INSTALL NO PARKING, TOWING AND FOUR SIGNS.

BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

HE DID CLARIFY THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY SIGNS ALREADY IN PLACE BETWEEN NORTH TEXAS BOULEVARD AND TREMONT.

AND ALL WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO DO IS ADD THE TOWING ENFORCED TO THE SIGNS SO THAT RESIDENTS KNOW THEY CAN CALL TOW TRUCKS THEMSELVES.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND LET YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

THANK YOU. SO YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW THE GENESIS OF THIS IS KIND OF A FLOOD OF CONSTITUENT CONCERN THAT WE GOT DURING A UN GAME LAST SEASON.

THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW ON HIGHLAND PARK ROAD, AND I SHOULD SAY I'M REALLY AMENDING MY REQUEST JUST TO GO AS FAR AS TO FREMONT, NOT ALL THE WAY TO WILLOW WOOD, TALKING TO SOME NEIGHBORS OVER THERE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

THE SIGNS EXIST THERE.

THERE. WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, IS WHEN WE HAVE A SITUATION LIKE WE HAD LAST FALL WHERE A FIRE TRUCK CAN'T GET DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE REALLY HAVE A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE EMERGENCY RESPONSE HAS TO GO, WHETHER IT'S AMBULANCE OR POLICE OR ANYBODY HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND, DOWN BONNIE BRAE OR DOWN BARNARD OR MCCORMICK, ANOTHER WAY TO GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER, U.A.

OR DENTON PD.

GO OUT THERE, SEE THAT SOMEONE'S COMMITTED A PARKING VIOLATION, AND THEN THEY CALL THE TOW TRUCK.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, RESPONDING TO CALLS AND DOING THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO, WHETHER IT'S A GAME DAY OR NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THE DEPARTMENT TO BE RESPONDING TO PARKING CITATIONS AND HAVING PEOPLE TOWED, BUT IT MAY REQUIRE A CHANGE IN ORDINANCE.

OTHERWISE, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST AS SIMPLE AS NAILING THE SIGNS UP THERE THAT SAY TOWING IT FORCED AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY CAN CALL.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STAFF WORK PUT INTO IT TO GIVE FULL EFFECT TO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS THE ABILITY FOR NEIGHBORS JUST TO MAKE THAT CALL THEMSELVES ON GAME DAY. SO THE POLICE ARE NOT TAKEN OFF THE STREETS RESPONDING TO REALLY PARKING VIOLATIONS THAT A A TOW TRUCK THAT'S ALREADY ON OUR WHEEL, THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THE WHAT WE DO IS THE CITY CAN COME AND PULL THAT CAR AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT EXTRA DETERRENT, ISN'T IT, WHEN IT SAYS ON THEIR TOWING AND FOR SNOW PARKING THERE'S LOTS OF NO PARKING.

THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES YOU CAN'T PARK BUT NO PARKING.

TOWING AND FORCED.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S EVEN A PHONE NUMBER OR SOMETHING FOR THE TOW TRUCK COMPANY THAT A NEIGHBOR CAN CALL.

I'M A WHOLE LOT LESS LIKELY TO PARK THERE AND BLOCK THE STREET IF I KNOW THAT THAT'S A TOWING AND FORCE ZONE, NOT JUST A SOMEBODY THAT WOULD RATHER I DIDN'T PARK THERE.

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO DO IT.

ANYONE. COUNCILMAN.

MCGEE. COUNCILMAN.

COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS BASICALLY JUST AUTHORIZING STAFF TO CHECK AND SEE IF A CHANGE IN ORDINANCE IS REQUIRED OR IF YOU CAN.

THIS IS OPERATIONAL, IS THAT CORRECT? WE CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY.

IT'S REALLY FOR THE STAFF TO GO FURTHER AND TO LOOK INTO HOW WE CAN DO THIS.

OAK ISLAND SUPPORT.

MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, JUSTIN. YEAH, I'M SUPPORTED IN SUPPORT OF THE CONCEPT, AND COUNCILOR DAVIS IS COMPLETELY RIGHT ABOUT THE PROBLEMS.

[02:45:05]

I THINK HE'S ASKING FOR STAFF INPUT AND I SAW OUR WORK SESSION NOW, SO I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME DETAILS TO IRON OUT.

SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF FURTHER STAFF ACTION ON THIS ITEM.

ANYONE ELSE. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE. YEAH, I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF KIND OF HAVING THE CONVERSATION SO WE CAN DO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT HOW THAT'S REGULATED.

WE ALREADY HAVE PREDATORY TOWING ISSUES, SO IT'S IT'S VERY SENSITIVE IN HOW THAT'S EXECUTED BUT WILLING TO.

LEND MY SUPPORT TO STAFF RESEARCHING IT AND COMING BACK WITH WHAT THEY SUGGEST AND WHAT'S DOABLE.

AS WELL. YEAH. CANCER WATCH.

OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND IT IS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK.

SESSIONS WILL MEET BACK IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 630, BUT I'LL CONCLUDE THE WORK SESSION PERIOD AT FIVE 0:08 P.M..

SEE YOU AT 630.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG.

PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE.

BUT TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS PROCLAMATIONS.

[A. Mayor’s Red Kettle Challenge Award]

NO, NO, NO TO. AND OK.

THERE YOU GO. SO YOU CAN INTRODUCE AND TELL EVERYONE.

GREAT TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU. I'M CAPTAIN WHITNEY HOUSTON WITH THE SALVATION ARMY HERE.

AND THIS IS BRIDGETTE MCINTOSH.

SHE'S OUR VOLUNTEER SPECIALIST.

WE ARE HERE TO CONGRATULATE THE CITY OF DENTON AND THEIR HUDSPETH FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR 2022 MAYORAL CHALLENGE FOR OUR RED KETTLE.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

OUR RED KETTLE FUNDRAISER OF THE YEAR.

THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB.

WE REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR HELP BECAUSE YOU ALSO ENCOURAGED THE SURROUNDING CITIES TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE WE HELP WITH NOT JUST DENTON, WE HELP WITH DENTON COUNTY.

SO WE GOT THE YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO CHALLENGE HICKORY CREEK TO JOIN AND FOR CROSSROADS TO JOIN.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP IN THAT.

YOU GUYS RAISED OVER YOU RAISED $2,699.62.

THAT'S AMAZING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND WE WANT TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS CERTIFICATE.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO ON THE DAY OF THEY WERE AT SAM'S CLUB AND THIS WAS DECEMBER 9TH, AND THEY RAISED $500, WHICH IS PRETTY SPECTACULAR BECAUSE THE BELL RINGERS NORMALLY RAISE ABOUT 150 TO $200 A DAY.

SO THE MAYOR DID A GREAT JOB AND HIS TEAM.

SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT TO RING TO.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND WE ARE EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS TO JOIN US NEXT YEAR TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TIME, ESPECIALLY IN THIS FUTURE AGE, WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T CARRYING AS MUCH CASH WITH THEM.

SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF VIRTUAL STUFF AND MOST OF THEIR FUNDRAISING WAS DONE VIRTUALLY.

SO WE WANT TO THANK THE DONORS YOUR YOUR TEAM THAT SUPPORTED YOU AND HELPED OUT TO RAISE THAT 2000 AND TOTAL FROM FROM OUR AREA.

WE RAISED $7,539.70 FROM EVERYONE WITH YOUR HELP.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

SO HOW DO PEOPLE GET PLUGGED IN IF THEY IF THEY WANT TO HELP? AND AND I GOT TO SAY, SARAH, HELP ME.

AND ALL THE STAFF HELPED ME.

SO WE WERE THERE ALL DAY AND WE BROKE IT UP INTO LIKE, WHAT WAS IT, 30 MINUTE SHIFTS OR SO OR TEN MINUTE SHIFTS OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

BRIAN WAS THERE. AND SO IT REALLY HELPED.

AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN, MEET A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE.

AND I ONLY GOT TO ASK ABOUT THE ROADS ABOUT TEN TIMES.

YEAH, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, NO, IT'S GOOD. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER ABOUT THE ROADS, BUT SO WHAT WE DO, WE CAN GO ONLINE IF YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER.

[02:50:06]

WHAT BRIDGET HELPS US WITH AT OUR SHELTER, WE ARE 40 PERSON SHELTER.

WE'RE STILL HELPING PEOPLE, MEN AND WOMEN RIGHT NOW.

WE WERE DOING FAMILIES IN THE IN THE FALL OF LAST YEAR AND RECENTLY WE JUST HAD A FAMILY WHO LEFT OUR SHELTER, A MOTHER NAMED HEATHER.

SHE HAD A TEENAGER WHO WAS 13 NAMED SERENA.

SHE HAD BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL FOR QUITE A TIME DUE TO A CAR ACCIDENT.

AND SHE LOST HER JOB.

SHE LOST. SHE WAS EVICTED, SO THEY HAD NO PLACE TO GO.

SO THEY CAME IN AND STAYED WITH US.

WE WERE VERY GLAD TO HAVE THEM AND HELP THEM GET BACK ON HER FEET, GET HER A JOB AGAIN.

SHE WORKS NOW FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

THEY ARE ABLE TO GET INTO AN APARTMENT NOW.

HER AND HER DAUGHTER ARE BACK IN STABILITY, SO WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO HAVE DONORS AND COMMUNITY HELP BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE DO IT.

WE DON'T DO IT ON OUR OWN. WE DO IT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.

WE HELP PEOPLE AND OUR COMMUNITY WITH PARTNERS.

AND SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

WE ALSO DO A FOOD PANTRY TWICE A WEEK, AND WE'VE NOTICED THROUGH COVID, AND I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE NOTICED TIMES HAVE BEEN ROUGH.

AND SO MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING.

WE HAVE BEEN GIVING OUT 3000 BAGS OF GROCERIES EACH MONTH, IF NOT MORE THAN THAT, JUST A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO AND WE DO COMMUNITY DINNER EVERY NIGHT.

YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO COMMENTS AT 530.

WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT COOK.

HIS NAME IS ROY AND I LOVE HIS CABBAGE.

YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW THAT, BUT THE FOOD IS GREAT.

SO THEN WE ALSO DO RENT UTILITIES ASSISTANCE AS WELL WITH HELP FROM FEDERAL FUNDING.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP FROM OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND JUST OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE EXIST WITH YOUR GUYS'S HELP.

WE REALLY DO. AND I WAS JUST REMINDED, ALONG WITH RED KETTLES, WE DID ANGEL TREE AND WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TIME THIS YEAR.

WE HELPED OVER 4500 KIDS IN DITTON COUNTY HAVE CHRISTMAS, AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT BY OURSELVES.

IT WAS ALL DONOR BASED.

SO WE'RE VERY, VERY THANKFUL TO HAVE YOUR HELP.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY THAT I MISSED SOMETHING.

NO, OK GOT IT.

AND RYAN IS GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE FOR US HERE.

YES.

ALL RIGHT. EXCEPT THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS LIKE PROCLAMATIONS WHEN I DON'T HAVE TO READ.

IT'S AWESOME. THAT'S AN EXTRA BONUS.

IT'S LIKE WINNING TWICE.

OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS THAT I'M AWARE OF.

NO ONE'S CALLED IN, SO THAT TAKES US DIRECTLY TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

ONLY THING THAT WAS PULLED IS E SO EVERYTHING.

BUT FOR E, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ACCEPTING ITEM E.

COUNCILMAN BURT. A SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER.

BYRD ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE COUNCILMAN DAVIS, HOW SAY YOU? I. COUNCILMAN BYRD.

COUNSELOR. WHAT? MAYOR PRO TEM. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

HI. AND MAYOR HUDSPETH AS WELL.

THAT PASSES SIX ZERO TAKES US TO MR. MAYOR. I THINK THE THE MOVER AND SECONDARY ARE REVERSED.

OK OK.

GOT IT? YES. SO.

THEY'LL ADJUST THAT WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS HAS RECUSED HIMSELF, AND I'LL CALL THIS NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM E

[E. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the City Manager to execute a Letter of Agreement between the City of Denton Parks and Recreation Department and Denton Independent School District to offer adult education and literacy classes at City of Denton Recreation Centers; authorizing the City Manager, or her designee, to perform all obligations of the City under the agreement; and providing an effective date.]

COUNCILMEMBER MCGEE I MOVE APPROVAL OF ME.

OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM.

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BUT YEAH.

SO THEY'LL THEY'LL WORK ON IT IN THE BACK.

THANK YOU. BUT.

OKAY. SO MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM ON ITEM E.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR MCGEE HOUSE AEW I MAYOR PRO TEM.

HI, COUNCILMAN.

WHAT? I AM A BERT I MAYOR HUDSPETH AS WELL.

THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.

THAT COMPLETES OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

AND TAKES US TO OUR FIRST.

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding an initial zoning district and use classification of Light Industrial (LI) Zoning District on approximately 82.96 acres of land, generally located on the north side of Barthold Road approximately 1,300 feet west of Interstate 35 in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [7-0] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Smith and second by Commissioner Villarreal. (Z22-0005a, Zoning to Light Industrial - Barthold Road, Ron Menguita)]

USE CLASSIFICATION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 82.96 ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BARTOW ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1300 FEET WEST OF I 35, IN THE CITY OF DENTON, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL RAMON GUIDO WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THIS ITEM REQUEST IS FOR AN INITIAL ZONING TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT FOR AGAIN INTRODUCE APPROXIMATELY 82.96 ACRES.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER, THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED IN DECEMBER SIX OF 2022.

CURRENTLY, THE PROPERTY IS UNDEVELOPED.

THE APPLICANT HAS SHARED THAT THEY WOULD BE DEVELOPING AN INDUSTRIAL USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS SHOWN HERE.

STAFF DID LOOK AT THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND IT DOES MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LEAD PURPOSE STATEMENT IN THE DDC.

ZONING IS NOT EXPECTED TO GENERATE SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FISCAL IMPACTS, AND UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE EXTENDED TO SERVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT.

STAFF RECEIVED TWO IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED INITIAL ZONING.

ONE WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER.

WITH THAT. THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN ZERO, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST STAFF TO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS AGAIN, IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL UNDER THE DDC SECTIONS TWO, FOUR, FIVE E, AS WELL AS TO SEVEN TWO RD OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WITH THAT I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS A PRESENTATION, GREAT.

AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE THE PRESENTATION? OK. SEEING NONE.

THEN IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AMY BISSETT, 109 NORTH ELM DENTON 76201.

I DO HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET IT ACTUALLY UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND HELP US.

OH, THERE WE GO. OKAY.

IT'S. GET BACK HERE.

ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE UNDERTOOK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AS RON SHARED.

WE DID. HERE.

HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

AS RON SHARED, WE DID PETITION FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

THIS TRACT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF A LARGER TRACT THAT WAS 376 ACRES.

THAT WAS PART OF A REMAINING NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

SO WE DID AMEND THAT NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT TO EXCLUDE THIS 82 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR HERE.

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AND THEN WE WENT TO PLANNING AND ZONING IN JANUARY.

AS RON SHARED, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR 2040.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU BRIEFLY THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN AND ELEVATION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TODAY.

MY CLIENT IS SCANNELL PROPERTIES.

THEY HAVE DEVELOPED OTHER INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES HERE IN DENTON.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING TWO BUILDINGS THAT TOTAL NEARLY A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE.

AND HERE'S A CONCEPTUAL ELEVATION AS WELL.

WE DID UNDERTAKE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY STAFF.

IT DID WARRANT A WESTBOUND RIGHT HAND TURN LANE AND CONSIDERED BERTHOLD IN BOTH ITS CURRENT CONDITION AND ULTIMATE BUILDOUT.

AND THE FINDINGS WERE THAT ALL INTERSECTIONS WOULD OPERATE AT ACCEPTABLE LEVELS THROUGHOUT THE THE HORIZON SCENARIO.

AND WE HAD AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE FOR US IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP HERE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTHWEST OF US IS ACTUALLY REMAINING AS THE SELLER'S PROPERTY.

THEY'RE RETAINING THAT TO THE RIGHT TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH OF US IS CURRENT AND PROPOSED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USES.

HOWEVER, WE DID NOTICE EARLY ON THAT WE HAD ONE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE START IN RED, AND THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER. AND WE JUST JUST DECIDED TO REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY WITH A LETTER INVITING THEM TO SIT DOWN WITH US.

AND WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THEM ACTUALLY AT THEIR KITCHEN TABLE WHERE WE COULD LOOK OUT THEIR WINDOW AND SEE THE VIEW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.

AND THEY'VE BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO JOIN US HERE THIS EVENING, ACTUALLY.

WE HAVE REACHED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THEM WHERE SCANNELL WILL CONSTRUCT A SCREENING WALL AT CHANEL'S EXPENSE.

THAT WILL BE IT WILL BE STRUCTURALLY DESIGNED AND WILL BE ROUGHLY 70 FEET WIDE AND EIGHT FEET TALL AND EXACT TO BE DETERMINED DURING ENGINEERING PROCESSES THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY ENTIRELY SCREEN THEIR VIEW.

AND THEY ACTUALLY SIT UP ON A HILL AND LOOK DOWN OVER 35 AND COULD SEE ALL THE WAY TO CRUM, I THINK, FROM FROM THEIR SITE.

AND SO THE POSITIONING OF THIS SCREENING WALL WALL WILL ACTUALLY HELP BLOCK NOT ONLY THE VIEW OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, BUT OTHER INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND THE HIGHWAY AS WELL. AND WE'VE ALSO AGREED TO MUTUALLY WORKING TOGETHER ON A DRIVEWAY REALIGNMENT AND A SHARED COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT ENDS UP BEING BEST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND TO EXTEND FIBER CONDUIT AT WHICH TIME THAT IT'S EXTENDED TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SHARE.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I DON'T KNOW IF I SO THAT IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, JUST IN CASE I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

AND SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD.

YOU JUST COME UP AND SPEAK AND FILL OUT THAT AFTERWARDS.

I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

SEE NONE. THEN I WILL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM I MOVE APPROVAL.

OH, AND I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEEING NO MOVEMENT.

COUNCILMAN BURT, SECOND.

OK MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

IT IS A TOUGH AREA AS IT'S TRANSITIONING AND AND A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THERE.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

AND AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL HOME.

THAT'S GREAT. SO IT'S FANTASTIC.

WELL DONE. OKAY THEN LET'S.

MAYOR PRO TEM, HOW SAY YOU? COUNCILMAN BYRD COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS, I.

COUNSELOR. WHAT I.

MAYOR HUDSPETH IS AS WELL.

THAT PASSES SIX ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. TAKES US TO ITEM B, WHICH IS

[B. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, approving a Specific Use Permit for a Multifamily Dwelling Use on approximately 16 acres of land, generally located between North Loop 288 and Mayhill Road, approximately 1,090 feet north of East McKinney Street, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s Official Zoning Map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing for severability and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [6-1] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Smith and second by Commissioner Anderson. (S22-0009a, Forest Crossing Phase 2, Julie Wyatt)]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, APPROVING A SPECIFIC USE FOR A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING USE ON APPROXIMATELY 16 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN NORTH LOOP 28 AND MAYHILL ROAD.

APPROXIMATELY 1090 FEET OF NORTH OF EAST MCKINNEY STREET IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

DIDN'T TECH DENTON COUNTY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.

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FORCE CROSSING PHASE TWO.

SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO PERMIT 360 MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ON APPROXIMATELY 16 ACRES IN THE SUBURBAN CORRIDOR DISTRICT.

AS YOU MENTIONED, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF MCKINNEY BETWEEN LOOP 288 AND MAYHILL.

IT'S OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON YOUR SCREEN.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS NEAR SOME ARTERIALS LOOP TO 88, YOU'RE AWARE, IS A SIX LANE ARTERIAL ROAD DIVIDED.

AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A TEN FOOT SIDE PATH, EITHER ON ONE OR BOTH SIDES OF THAT ROAD.

MAYHILL IS ALSO A SIX LANE DIVIDED ROAD AND IT HAS A TEN FOOT WIDE SIDE PATH AS WELL AS A FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.

THE SIDE PATH IS ON THE EAST SIDE AND THEN THE SIDEWALK IS ON THE WEST SIDE.

THE PROPERTY IS ALSO IMPACTED BY THE HUMMINGBIRD LANE EXTENSION.

THE MOBILITY PLAN CALLS FOR MILLS AND HUMMINGBIRD TO CONNECT THROUGH THE SUBJECT SITE.

SO THIS THIS PROPERTY WILL IMPACT THAT AND WE'LL GO OVER THAT IN THE SITE PLAN.

SO BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE CRITERIA, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.

AS I MENTIONED, THE HUMMINGBIRD LANE DOES IMPACT THIS PROPERTY.

SO THEY WILL BE CONSTRUCTING THE FULL WIDTH OF HUMMINGBIRD LANE FROM MAYHILL TO THEIR WEST PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES AN EIGHT FOOT SIDE PATH ALONG THE NORTH OR ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

AS I MENTIONED, IT INCLUDES 361, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS.

ALSO INCLUDES ONSITE AMENITIES, CLUBHOUSE, COMMUNITY POOL, PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS THROUGH THOSE OPEN SPACE AREAS, A TREE PRESERVATION AREA SHOWN OUTLINED IN BLUE HERE.

MY BOX IS A LITTLE OFF, BUT BUT A LARGER TREE PRESERVATION AREA IS PROPOSED FOR THE SITE.

THEY ALSO INCLUDE INCLUDES A DOG PARK ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND INCLUDES 597 PARKING SPACES AND THOSE ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

SO THERE'S NOT ONE LARGE PARKING AREA, BUT IT'S SPREAD THROUGHOUT.

VEHICULAR ACCESS WILL BE FROM HUMMINGBIRD AS WELL AS FROM ON MAYHILL.

IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO SHARE ACCESS WITH THE WITH THE MULTIFAMILY THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO THAT WILL THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE WE LIMIT THOSE ACCESS POINTS TO MAYHILL AND IT'LL USE THAT MEDIAN OPENING.

SO THAT WILL BE THEIR SECONDARY ACCESS.

THE SITE IS DESIGNED SO THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE PULLED UP TOWARD THE STREET ALONG HUMMINGBIRD TO DEFINE THAT STREET EDGE ALSO INCLUDES PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS.

SO THEY'VE DESIGNED IT SO THAT EACH BUILDING ALONG HUMMINGBIRD HAS A DIRECT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THAT FUTURE SIDEWALK ALONG THERE TO PROVIDE THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. ADDITIONALLY, A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IS PROPOSED TO MAYHILL.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES LEAVE A CARVE OUT FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF MCKINNEY I'M SORRY, OF HUMMINGBIRD AND MAYHILL.

THAT'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.

SO WHEN I LEAVE THAT OVER FOR THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY ALSO PROVIDED CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS WITH THEIR PROJECT AND THOSE ARE SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN AS WELL.

ADDITIONALLY, ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, THEIR THEIR SITE PLAN SHOWS AND THEIR TIRE INDICATED THAT A A LEFT HAND TURN FROM MAYHILL ONTO THAT FUTURE HUMMINGBIRD WILL BE REQUIRED.

SO ALTHOUGH THAT'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT LEFT HAND TURN LIGHT IN THERE TO GET VEHICLES THAT ARE TURNING LEFT OUT OF OFF OF MAYHILL, OUT OF THE TRAVEL LANE SO THEY CAN TURN SAFELY.

IT ALSO INCLUDES LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEIR PROJECT.

THEY'VE THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE OF AREAS I WANT TO POINT OUT.

THEY'VE GOT FOUNDATION PLANTINGS THERE AT THE FRONT DOOR OF THOSE BUILDINGS TO KIND OF CREATE A GATEWAY AND A WELCOMING ENTRANCE INTO THOSE BUILDINGS. THEY ALSO HAVE NEW TREE PLANTINGS IN COMMON AREAS TO ENHANCE SHARED SPACES.

AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE TREE PLANTINGS IN THEIR DETENTION AREAS THERE TO DETENTION AREAS.

ONE IS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY HERE.

AND THEN ANOTHER IS ALONG MAYHILL.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE JUST WEREN'T INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT THEY ACTUALLY LOOKED NATURALIZED.

SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TREE PLANTINGS AROUND THOSE TO SOFTEN THOSE THOSE AREAS.

ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY, THERE'S THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES ON IT.

AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IN THRESHOLDS FOR THAT TREE PRESERVATION WITHIN THIS SUPP.

SO THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES THAT PROPERTY OWNERS PRESERVE 30% OF THE PROTECTED INCHES ON SITE, BUT ALLOWS FOR

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SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, WE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A THRESHOLD SO THAT THEY THEY HAD PROVIDED AT LEAST A CERTAIN MINIMUM, AND THAT WAS THAT 27%. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY INCLUDED THAT AS A CONDITION OF THIS SAP TO NOT ALLOW THEM TO DROP DOWN TO THAT 20%, BUT TO MAINTAIN THAT 27%. WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE ANALYZING A PROJECT.

THIS IS IN A COMMUNITY MIXED USE AREA FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT'S INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE THAT THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE PRIMARY, BUT WHERE THESE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IS SECONDARY, IT PROVIDES NECESSARY CUSTOMER BASE FOR RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES, ALSO PROVIDES AN EMPLOYMENT BASE THAT'S NEAR OUR BUSINESSES.

SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT FUTURE LAND USE BACK BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THAT, THAT MIXED USE COMPONENT THAT WE ALSO HAVE OUR PREFERRED LAND PRESERVATION PLAN.

THERE ARE NO IMPACTS TO OUR TO THAT MAP.

THERE ARE NO AREAS IDENTIFIED ON THIS SUBJECT SITE AS THAT ARE PART OF THAT PREFERRED LAND PRESERVATION PLAN.

AND THEN IT ALSO MEETS OUR HOUSING GOALS.

IT PROVIDES THAT DIVERSE ARRAY OF HOUSING, BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT DIVERSE ARRAY OF HOUSING NEAR AN AREA THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

LOOP 288 HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY A VIBRANT COMMERCIAL AREA WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND THESE ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS JUST ADD TO THAT VIBRANCY OF THE AREA, GET GET RESONANCE CLOSE TO WHERE WE HAVE THOSE AMENITIES AND THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE ALSO ANALYZED THE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

IT IS IT IS THERE IS ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THE PROPOSAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

A TIA WAS SUBMITTED AND THERE IS ADEQUATE CAPACITY.

I DID MENTION THAT LEFT HAND TURN ON MAYHILL.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.

TIA AND THEN OF COURSE THEY'LL BE CONSTRUCTING THAT PORTION OF HUMMINGBIRD THAT'S ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY.

AS I MENTIONED ON HUMMINGBIRD, WE DO HAVE THAT EIGHT FOOT SHARED PATH.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO COMPATIBLE.

IT IS A SUPPORTING USE AT AN APPROPRIATE SCALE THAT WE SEE IN THESE TYPES OF AREAS.

PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS SENT OUT.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER IN OPPOSITION AND IT IS I APOLOGIZE, IT'S NOT ON THE MAP, BUT THAT AREA, THE OPPOSITION IS THIS AREA TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THERE'S JUST A LITTLE SLIVER OF OF OF THAT OPPOSITION LETTER.

SO BASED UPON THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST 6 TO 1, AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR APPROVAL.

THERE ARE TYPICAL CONDITIONS FOR SUPS THAT THAT DELINEATE THOSE MINOR CHANGES THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THAT THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

THERE ARE TWO CONDITIONS THAT YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE OUT THERE IN BOLD ON YOUR SCREEN.

ONE, THEY DID PROVIDE THOSE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THAT THOSE BUILDINGS THAT THEY SHOWED THAT THOSE WOULD BE KIND OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.

BUT TO ALLOW SOME MINOR VARIATION, PROVIDED THAT THEY PROVIDE THAT QUALITY ARCHITECTURE AND THEN ALSO THAT THRESHOLD FOR THE MINIMUM TREE PRESERVATION OF 27%.

SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I BELIEVE HE HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION AS WELL.

GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU CAN COME DOWN.

I DO HAVE A FEW CARDS, BUT IF YOU'VE NOT FILLED OUT A CARD, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK.

MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JULIE SO.

SO I NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT THAT NEW MOBILITY AREA GOING THROUGH THE NORTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, WE TALK ABOUT SLIDE ONE AND FIVE AND EIGHT, THE TREE CANOPY AND AT ONE THREE THE TREE CANOPY.

AND WE'RE HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT IN IN WHAT'S LEFT OF THIS CANOPY AREA WHERE THE THE MAIN ARTERIALS ARE NOW COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OR RETAIL.

AND YET WE HAVE THIS THIS SECTION THAT'S CANOPY.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT I DID ABOUT MAINTAINING THE 2019 CODE. AND YOU MENTIONED THAT IT IS A 30%.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IF WE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE SORT OF SPIRIT OF THE THE PREFERRED LAND PRESERVATION AND THE 30%.

HOW ARE HOW ARE WE GETTING UNDER UNDER THE THRESHOLD HERE? WELL, THEY DIDN'T DEVELOPMENT CODE.

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HOWEVER IT DOES ALLOW FOR APPLICANTS TO REDUCE THAT TO 20% WITH THAT ADDITIONAL MITIGATION.

AND SO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OF THAT ALLOWANCE OR THAT THAT REQUIREMENT.

IN THIS INSTANCE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THEY GOT AS CLOSE TO THAT 30% AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DID FEEL LIKE THE TREES WERE AN ASSET TO THAT SITE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT.

WE WORKED WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET AS MANY TREES PRESERVED AS POSSIBLE.

WE ALSO TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT SITING THEIR BUILDINGS SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE A GOOD STAND OF TREES THAT WOULD REMAIN ON SITE.

AND THEN AND THEN WE DID WANT TO PUT THAT THAT THRESHOLD IN ABOUT 27%.

SO IF THEY CANNOT ACHIEVE THAT 27% AS THEY'RE DESIGNING THE SITE, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND REQUEST A REVISION TO THAT SAP THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET, THAT THEY CANNOT GO BELOW, THAT THEY CAN'T GO TO THAT 20%.

SO WHAT ARE WHAT ARE TYPICAL MITIGATION EFFORTS FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT WHAT ARE TYPICAL MITIGATION EFFORTS THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE IN IN THE REDUCTION BY 10%? SO IN MITIGATION, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TREE PRESERVATION, EVERY TREE THAT AN APPLICANT REMOVED REMOVES FROM A SITE ESSENTIALLY IS SUBJECT TO MITIGATION.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MITIGATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EITHER PLANTING ON SITE INCHES THAT, THAT OR TO PAY INTO OUR TREE FUND.

RIGHT NOW IT'S $200 AN INCH.

SO IF IF THEY HAVE SAY THEY HAVE 100 INCHES THAT THEY HAVE TO MITIGATE, THEY EITHER NEED TO PLANT 100 INCHES ON SITE OR THEY DO NEED TO PAY INTO THAT TREE FUND.

SO IN IN THIS INSTANCE OR IN AN INSTANCE WHERE THEY WOULD DROP BELOW THE THE 30% ADDITIONAL MITIGATION ABOVE WHAT THAT WHAT THAT BASELINE WOULD BE WOULD BE REQUIRED.

AND SO MY NEXT QUESTION ALONG THESE LINES IS THAT THIS THIS SORT OF CONTIGUOUS CANOPY AREA INCLUDES THE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH, WHICH I THINK YOU HAD ON SLIDE AT THE BEGINNING THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE, YOU INDICATED THERE'S A FUTURE MULTIFAMILY ANTICIPATING GOING IN THERE.

TO WHAT EXTENT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TREE CANOPY PRESERVATION, DO WE INCLUDE THE ACTUAL TREE CANOPY RATHER THAN PARCEL BY PARCEL BY PARCEL? WELL, IN IN TERMS OF TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS, WE DO LOOK AT IT FROM A PARCEL STANDPOINT BECAUSE GENERALLY PARCELS COME IN IN A IN A DISCRETE TIME THAT ONE PARCEL WILL DEVELOP AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WILL DEVELOP.

SO IN TERMS OF OUR TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS, THAT IS ON A PARCEL BY PARCEL BASIS.

SO YES, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

IT GOT AN SEP FOR MULTIFAMILY A FEW YEARS AGO AND, AND SO IT, IT HAD TO MEET ITS TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THIS SITE WILL HAVE TO MEET ITS TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS.

AND IN GENERAL THOUGH WE'D BE LOOKING AT THAT'S PROBABLY AN OLDER ONE.

SO 20% I BELIEVE WAS THE OLD CODE.

NO, THE OLD CODE WAS ACTUALLY PROJECTS WERE REQUIRED.

MULTIFAMILY WAS REQUIRED TO PRESERVE 25% OF THE INCHES ON SITE.

BUT THEY COULD THEY THEN COULD MITIGATE HALF OF THAT.

SO THEY WERE ONLY REQUIRED 12 AND A HALF PERCENT.

SO POTENTIALLY WE FOR THIS REGION, WE'D BE LOOKING AT.

AND, YOU KNOW, GENERAL, 70 TO 30% OVERALL REDUCTION IN IN THIS AREA.

I GUESS THAT THAT GIVES ME SOME CONCERN FROM ALL THE THE FINANCIAL VALUE OF THE TREE CANOPY IN TERMS OF STORMWATER RUNOFF, WHICH I KNOW THE ANSWER IS THEY ALWAYS DO ENGINEERING STUDIES TO SHOW THAT STORMWATER RUNOFF WON'T BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN IT IS NOW.

YEAH. BUT I DON'T KNOW.

IT GIVES ME CONCERN.

I APPRECIATE THAT THAT I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PARTICULAR HEARTBURN WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AS LAID OUT, BUT IT DOES BOTHER ME THAT WE'RE WE'RE TAKING OPPORTUNITIES TO BE BELOW OUR THRESHOLD THAT WE HAVE SET THAT SORT OF OUR MINIMUM THRESHOLD.

I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT. SURE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JULIE, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THIS HUMMINGBIRD EXTENSION.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WILL HAVE TO CONSTRUCT WHAT PART OF HUMMINGBIRD ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE DO THEY HAVE TO PUT IN THE FINAL CONFIGURATION OR THEY JUST HAVE TO DO A COUPLE OF LANES? TO WHAT EXTENT DO THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP FROM MAYHILL ROAD ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THEIR PROPERTY LINE? THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTING THE ENTIRE PIECE OF HUMMINGBIRD NOW.

THEY WON'T BE CONSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH PART.

THEY WILL ONLY BE CONSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH PART AND IT WOULD END AT THEIR WEST PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

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BUT IT IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT THAT ENTIRE HUMMINGBIRD PIECE.

SO DO WE HAVE AN IDEA ON THE TIMELINE FOR THE COMPLETION OF THAT HUMMINGBIRD SEGMENT FROM THEIR WESTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY TO I BELIEVE IT'S LOOP TO 88? WE DO NOT THOSE THAT HUMMINGBIRD WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED WHEN THOSE WHEN THOSE LOTS WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED WOULD BE DEVELOPED.

OKAY. SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE, IS THIS SLIDE THREE SHOWING? IT LOOKS LIKE THE INGRESS EGRESS PRIMARILY.

AND MAYBE THE ONLY ONE I'M LOOKING DOWN HERE AT THE WHAT IS AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION WITH THE YELLOW CIRCLE AROUND IT.

SO HUMMINGBIRD IS COMING ON TO MAYHILL.

IS THAT THE ONLY IN AND OUT FROM FROM A CITY STREET FOR THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? IN TERMS OF THEIR THEIR ACCESS.

YES, THEY WOULD CONNECT TO HUMMINGBIRD.

YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WOULD NOT CONNECT ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST.

SO THEIR PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS ON HUMMINGBIRD.

THEY DO HAVE THAT SECONDARY ACCESS ON MAYHILL.

AND THAT'S THE ONE.

WELL, I GUESS WHEN I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE THREE, I SEE HUMMINGBIRD ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT CONNECTS INTO MAYHILL, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND SO FROM MAYHILL OR FROM ANOTHER PUBLIC STREET OUTSIDE OF HUMMINGBIRD, IS THAT THE ONLY ENTRANCE INTO THE PROPERTY IS FROM MAYHILL TO HUMMINGBIRD. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CIRCULATOR DOWN HERE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT YELLOW CIRCLE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT ABOVE YOUR FILE ID IS THAT, IS THAT ACCESS SOMEWHERE ELSE ON.

THAT'S NOT TO I DON'T THINK THAT'S TO.

OR IS THAT JUST INTERIOR.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT THAT CONNECTS TO A DRIVEWAY.

YES I'LL I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN THAT MIGHT THAT MIGHT HELP.

OH SORRY. YEAH. LET ME FIND IT.

OKAY. YES, THAT'S THE CORRECT SLIDE.

OKAY. WELL.

THE BOX IS A LITTLE OFF.

BUT BUT WE HAVE AN ACCESS POINT HERE IN YELLOW.

THAT'S THAT HUMMINGBIRD ACCESS.

AND THEN THERE'S ACTUALLY A DRIVEWAY THAT CONNECTS TO THE SOUTH.

THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS FOR FOREST CROSSING PHASE ONE.

SO THAT WILL BE THE MULTIFAMILY THAT IS ADJACENT, THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT NOW.

THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE CONNECTING TO MAYHILL.

SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY CONNECTING TO THAT DRIVEWAY THAT THEN PUNCHES THROUGH TO MAYHILL.

IT'S GOT A MEDIAN OPENING THERE WITH A LEFT HAND TURN.

SO IT MADE SENSE TO TO COORDINATE THAT ACCESS IN THAT LOCATION.

OKAY. SO YEAH, BUT THAT'S THAT WILL HAVE ACCESS TO MAYHILL ONCE THAT SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF THIS GETS DEVELOPED AND THAT DRIVEWAY GETS CONSTRUCTED.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND AND THIS IS JUST AN OBSERVATION QUESTION.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE TALK ABOUT TWO FORMS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THE ACTUAL.

PROPERTY BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

IS THAT NOT? I MEAN, WE HAVE ONLY ONE IN AND ONE OUT BASICALLY INTO THE PROJECT, AT LEAST THAT I'M SEEING.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S OKAY.

WELL THIS THIS DOES SERVE THAT THAT REMOTENESS AND THE TWO ACCESS POINTS BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT FULL ACCESS TO THE SOUTH AND THE FULL ACCESS TO THE NORTH BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE PEOPLE IN.

SO THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE ACCESS POINTS.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO THAT'S SO THOSE HAVE TO BE COMPLETED.

YES, SIR. IN ORDER TO GET THE FINAL, I GUESS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I THINK STAFF AND THE P AND Z ARTICULATED AS THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, AND THEY SHOW SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT THEY CAN INCLUDE.

DO THE DOES THE SITE PLAN OR THE ELEVATIONS, EXAMPLES OF THE ELEVATIONS ON THAT SAME SLIDE THAT YOU PULLED UP, ARE THOSE INCORPORATED IN THAT OR ARE THEY JUST THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THAT SORT OF AN EXAMPLE OF AN ELEVATION, I DON'T THINK.

DOES THIS DO THESE ELEVATIONS, DO THEY GET TIED TO THESE ELEVATIONS WITH THIS SAP APPROVAL, OR ARE THESE JUST SIMPLY EXAMPLES AND CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS? WE DO ADD THAT THAT THOSE CONCEPTUAL SITE ELEVATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE SAP AND THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THAT ORDINANCE.

THEY YOU KNOW, THEY THEY ARE KIND OF CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE.

SO WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO DO WAS TIE DOWN WHAT THOSE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS ARE.

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SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS LOOK AT THOSE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.

OF COURSE, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE DEBT AND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF MINIMUM WINDOWS AND DOORS AND AND ORIENTATION TO THE STREET.

BUT WE WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEVATIONS THEY SHOW OR THE ELEVATIONS THAT THEY'LL THEY'LL BUILD.

SO WE REALLY WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT IN TEXT FORM AS WELL.

OKAY. SO THOSE THOSE DRAWINGS THAT THAT WILL BE WITH THE SAP, THEY INCORPORATE THOSE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AS RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE ORDINANCE.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN I GUESS ON THE FINAL QUESTION OF THE THE TREE ISSUE, THE TREE CANOPY.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I KNOW DURING THE THE DISCUSSION, I GOT AN IDEA THAT SINCE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS 30% THAT WE THAT THAT IS OUR OUR GOAL.

BUT YET WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY OR THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THEY JUST CAN'T MEET IT, THAT THERE ARE SOME MITIGATION FACTORS THAT THEY CAN EMPLOY THAT REDUCES THAT.

SO IF THEY'RE BELOW IF THEY'RE AT 27%, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY VIOLATING OUR CODE, THEY'RE JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF AND ACTUALLY MORE SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO THE FULL EXTENT THAT THEY COULD DOWN TO THE 20%.

SO THEY'RE GETTING AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN.

AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING THEY HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT REMAINING 3%, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CNN. THEN THE APPLICANT AND IT'S GEO.

IS THAT RIGHT? GEO.

I'M SORRY. 47 YEARS.

NOBODY'S EVER GOTTEN IT RIGHT.

SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR CONSISTENCY.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THE NOTE, AND SO I FEEL BAD THAT I MESSED IT UP, BUT.

I'M SORRY. I'VE JOKED WITH MY MOM AND TOLD HER WHEN SHE PASSES AWAY, I'M CHANGING MY NAME TO JOHN SMITH.

I DON'T THINK. NO, IT'S HERE.

THIS IS NEW ENGLAND.

YEAH. YEAH.

OH, SORRY.

HMM. ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS THAT'S HIS LAST NAME.

OKAY. SORRY. OKAY.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DREW GALLO WITH BRIDGEVIEW REAL ESTATE REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, JULIE DID SUCH A GREAT JOB.

AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, I SAID THE SAME THING TO P AND Z.

SHE IS SUCH A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.

AND IF SHE LEAVES DENTON, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LET US KNOW WHERE SHE GOES BECAUSE WE JUST WANT TO DEVELOP WHEREVER SHE GOES BECAUSE SHE'S SO GREAT TO WORK WITH.

BUT REALLY, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT VERY COMMON WHERE WE GET TO WORK WITH STAFF IN A WAY THAT THAT THE IDEAS THAT THEY COME UP WITH AND THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY GIVE US JUST MAKE THINGS BETTER. AND SO AS WE APPROACH THIS JOB, THIS PROJECT, REALLY THE DETERMINING FACTORS BECAME A COUPLE OF THINGS.

NUMBER ONE IS THE TREE PRESERVATION, AND NUMBER TWO IS THE SITE PLAN.

AND SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US, WE'RE KIND OF A MULTIFACETED DEVELOPER.

WE DO ALL SORTS OF DEVELOPMENTS, BUT REALLY OUR FOCUS IS ON MULTIFAMILY AND WE HAVE WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT ARM, WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION ARM, WE HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ARM AND A CAPITAL ARM.

AND THE REASON WHY WE ARE SO VERTICALLY INTEGRATED IS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO DEVELOP AND BUILD PROJECTS THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO.

IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH CITIES IN A WAY THAT SOMETIMES THE INSTITUTIONAL CAPITAL PEOPLE CAN'T.

AND IT ALLOWS US TO DO MANY THINGS WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT SOMETIMES THEY WOULDN'T ORDINARILY BE ABLE TO.

SO THIS SITE, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IT'S REALLY PART OF A LARGER MASTER PLAN, DEVELOPMENT OF OVER 70 ACRES AND BEING IN THE THE SUBURBAN CORRIDOR.

IT'S A VARIETY OF PROJECTS.

AND SO I KNOW THAT THE OWNER AND REPRESENTATIVE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

BUT WE ARE ALSO THE DEVELOPER OF PHASE ONE OF FOREST CROSSING.

WE WE ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T DESIGN IT, WE INHERITED IT AND WE LEARNED SO MUCH EXCUSE ME, THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

THAT REALLY HELPS US MAKE THIS SECOND PHASE EVEN EVEN BETTER.

THE THE THE THING ABOUT DENTON IS, IS THAT THIS IS JUST A GREAT CITY AND IT'S GROWING LIKE CRAZY AND PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.

AND THERE'S JUST A NEED FOR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THE MARKET.

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AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE VERTICAL INTEGRATION, THAT REALLY SETS US UP REALLY WELL IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE BECAUSE FOR US TO EVEN BE PROFITABLE IN THE DEAL, WE GOT TO BE THERE FOR TEN YEARS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING A GOOD DEVELOPMENT, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE QUALITY CRAFTSMANSHIP AND THAT WE GET TO MANAGEMENT, MANAGE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY IS CARED FOR.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE BRINGING ADDITIONAL MARKET RATE UNITS TO THE MARKET.

AND IT'S NOT THE SAME DESIGN AS PHASE ONE.

AND THAT'S PURPOSEFUL, RIGHT? PHASE ONE HAS CERTAIN PROS TO IT THAT OURS DOESN'T.

BUT SAME AS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE THINGS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT ADDS THAT PHASE ONE DOESN'T.

AND SO WHEN WE APPROACH THIS SITE, WE REALLY THINK, HEY, HOW DO WE CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? THIS WHOLE 70 ACRES? HOW DO WE STRATEGICALLY PLACE HOUSING IN THIS AREA TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD, TO CREATE WALKABILITY? AND PART OF THAT IS THE WAY THAT WE'RE CONNECTED TO MAY HILL, THE WAY THAT WE'RE CONNECTED TO HUMMINGBIRD, ALL THESE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

BUT IT'S ALSO A TREE, THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN.

AND AND WE ARE NOT A DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO GO IN THERE AND CUT DOWN ALL THOSE TREES BECAUSE THOSE TREES ARE A HUGE ASSET TO OUR PROJECT.

AND RIGHT NOW, OUR TREE PRESERVATION IS IS THE MATH IS CALCULATING TO BE AT OVER 30%, A LITTLE BIT OVER 30%.

OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO STILL BE THERE.

OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE MORE TREES.

AND THAT'S THE GREAT THING THAT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS ALLOWED US TO DO, IS THAT WE'VE ALSO FOUND OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE ADDITIONAL TREES ON ON PHASE ONE.

AGAIN, I SAID WE INHERITED THAT IT IT WAS DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT THOSE TREES PER THE APPROVED PLAN WEREN'T GOING TO SURVIVE.

AND SO WE REALLY SPENT TIME IN FIGURING OUT WAYS TO TO SAVE MORE TREES AND MAKE IT BETTER.

SO SOME OF THIS STUFF JULIE ALREADY WENT THROUGH.

BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN ON SOME OF THIS STUFF HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, IS THAT CONNECTIVITY TO MAYHILL AND AND THIS SITE PLAN HAS REALLY EVOLVED IN A IN A REALLY COOL WAY THAT I CAN KIND OF SHOW YOU.

BUT BUT GETTING THOSE UNITS AS CLOSE TO THOSE BUILDINGS, AS CLOSE TO MAYHILL AS WE CAN.

AND ALLOW THAT ACCESS DIRECTLY FROM THE BUILDING WHERE THEY CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE SIDEWALK.

RIGHT THERE WILL BE SECURED ENTRANCE FOR THE RESIDENCE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY CAN WALK OUT THEIR UNIT, WALK OUT A DOOR AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE SIDEWALK AND BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

AND EVEN OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THAT HARD CORNER, IT'S KIND OF EVOLVED.

ORIGINALLY, IT HAD KIND OF AN ODD SHAPE TO IT, BUT AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE TREE PRESERVATION, AS WE WERE LOOKING AT MAKING A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THIS SITE, WE WANTED MORE OPEN AREAS AND WE WANTED MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE TREES.

SO WE SQUARED THAT OFF AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR AREAS ON OUR SITE RIGHT NOW THAT THAT ARE OPEN SPACE AND COMMUNITY AREAS.

WE'VE GOT THE POOL AREA WHICH IS REALLY A RESORT TYPE POOL WITH THE CLUBHOUSE.

WE'VE GOT THE DOG PARK THAT JULIE POINTED OUT.

BUT THIS AREA OVER HERE, NORTH OF THIS BUILDING IS ALSO GOING TO BE AN OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PLANTING BENCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THIS AREA ORIGINALLY HAD A BUILDING THERE.

AND AS WE WERE TRYING TO REALLY THINK THROUGH AND ENHANCE THIS, WE ACTUALLY MOVED THIS BUILDING IN A WAY.

AND THE GRADE LIKE THIS IS A TOUGH DEVELOPMENT SITE, RIGHT? THE GRADE IS IS CRAZY AND THERE ARE A TON OF TREES.

BUT WHEN WE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE ALL THOSE TREES, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE BUILDING.

AND NOW WE'VE KIND OF CREATED THIS REALLY TRANQUIL PLACE ON OUR SITE WHERE WE COULD DO ALL SORTS OF LANDSCAPING AMENITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND BE OUTSIDE AND AND FEEL SAFE AND BE UNDER THE SHADE OF THESE AMAZING TREES.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS SHE SAID, IT'S 360 CLASS A GARDEN APARTMENTS.

BUT WE'RE THE WAY THAT WE'RE REALLY DESIGNING THIS IS THAT THIS IS FOR THE WORKFORCE.

AND. DENTON RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT SUPER, SUPER HIGH RENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS A PROJECT FOR THE WORKFORCE IN DENTON, RIGHT, WHERE FIREMEN, POLICEMEN, TEACHERS, CITY EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND LIVE IN A REALLY, REALLY NICE APARTMENT PROJECT.

AND IT'S ALSO, WE THINK A LOT ABOUT FAMILIES.

WE THINK ABOUT THE SCHOOL THAT'S LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK TO.

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I THINK THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 32.

WE'RE PROVIDING 80 JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THAT DENTON'S CURRENT BIKE TRAIL AND THEN THE FUTURE BIKE TRAIL AND THE WAY THAT IT'S GOING TO CONNECT WITH THIS SITE.

IT IT'S A IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR FOR PEOPLE TO BIKE.

YOU'RE CLOSE TO YOU'RE NOT TOO FAR FROM NORTH TEXAS.

YOU'RE THREE MILES AWAY FROM TWU.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY THAT OPPORTUNITY TO.

TO BICYCLE AROUND.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN.

AND AGAIN, WE COULD FIT MORE UNITS ON THIS SITE, RIGHT? DEFINITELY COULD COULD FIT 24 UNITS TO THE ACRE WITH EASE, WITH EASE, IF NOT MORE.

BUT WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WORKING WITH JULIE AND UNDERSTANDING MORE OF WHAT THE CITY'S DESIRES ARE, WE REALLY CHANGED A LOT, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR COMMERCIAL AREA WAS A LITTLE BIT JUST IT WAS JUST A WEIRD SHAPE, RIGHT? BUT AS WE WENT THROUGH, IT ENDED UP HERE AND THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS JUST KIND OF THIS CONNECTION THAT WE HAVE TO HUMMINGBIRD.

SO A LOT OF TIMES IN THESE APARTMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A SIX FOOT HIGH WROUGHT IRON FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROJECT.

WELL, WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PUSH THOSE BUILDINGS AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO THE SETBACK.

AND THE FENCE IS ACTUALLY IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND NOT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS.

SO WHEN YOU WALK BY, YOU'RE WALKING BY THESE BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED BUILDINGS THAT ARE OPEN, RIGHT.

THAT DOES HAVE RICH AND LUSH, LUSH LANDSCAPE AROUND IT AND SOME REALLY AMAZING TREES THAT A WROUGHT IRON FENCE IS NOT GOING TO OBSCURE THE VIEW.

AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TREE PRESERVATION, WE TALK ABOUT THE CANOPY.

THESE ARE JUST OUR CURRENT CALCULATIONS THAT THE REQUIRED CANOPY THAT THAT WERE TO MEET IS 246,000 SQUARE FEET.

IN OUR CURRENT CALCULATIONS AND OUR CURRENT TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, WE'RE AT 365,000 SQUARE FEET OF CANOPY.

SO WE'RE WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PRESERVE THESE TREES BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES THE DEVELOPMENT BETTER.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IF I'M CREATING IF WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOMEBODY'S HOME, WHAT FEELS MORE HOMEY, SOMETHING THESE THESE CLEAN, FRESH BUILDINGS AROUND A BUNCH OF NEW TREES THAT ACTUALLY LOOK NEW.

OR IS IT THE CLEAN, FRESH BUILDINGS THAT ARE SET IN THIS VERY, VERY DENSE WOODED AREA THAT JUST ENHANCES THE PROJECT.

AND SO, AGAIN, SHE TALKED ABOUT HUMMINGBIRDS.

SHE TALKED ABOUT THE THE THE LEFT TURN LANE.

SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE I NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER COULD IF THEY CAN THEY COULD TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THAT ARE UNDER CONTRACT THAT THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH.

THESE ARE FANTASTIC COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITH FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT, WITH GREAT RETAIL.

THERE IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE AMAZING.

AND PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS AMAZING AND PART OF WHAT MAKES OPPORTUNITY ZONES WORK SO WELL IS DIVERSITY.

AND WHAT IS GOING TO DRIVE THIS COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

AND RIGHT NOW IN THIS AREA, THE OCCUPANCY RATES OF APARTMENTS ARE OVER 95%.

AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IN THE AREA.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS MORE KIND OF SOME BLOW UPS OF OF OUR THE DOG PARK AREA.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GO BACK HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS IF YOU IF YOU CAN SEE THIS, OUR SIDEWALKS ARE NOT STRAIGHT.

OUR SIDEWALKS ARE MEANDERING.

WE WE WE THINK THAT THAT MAKES SOMETHING FLUID HAPPEN ON THE SITE, THAT MAKES IT MORE ENJOYABLE, THAT YOU CAN WALK AROUND THE SITE AND YOU JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE PATH OF A SIDEWALK.

THIS. SO TO KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS TALKED A LOT, ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES.

WE'RE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN REALLY THE SAME COLOR SCHEMES.

WE WE LIKE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT TRENDY.

WE LIKE TO USE COLORS THAT THAT REALLY DON'T GO OUT OF STYLE.

WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO GO DRIVE PAST OUR BUILDING IN 15, 20 YEARS AGO.

THAT'S SO 2020, RIGHT? THIS IS THESE THESE COLORS ARE GRAYS.

THEY'RE WHITES. THEY'RE BLACKS WITH SOME TOUCHES OF CEDAR TONE TO IT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IS A GREAT DESIGN FACTOR OF SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS IS THESE CORNER UNITS.

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SO THEY HAVE LARGE BALCONIES, THEY HAVE GOOD WINDOWS AND A LOT OF LIGHT THAT IS GOING INTO THESE UNITS.

AND AND WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS DESIGN IS IS RIGHT FOR THIS AREA.

IT'S IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.

WE LOVE THE COLORS AND FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO REALLY FIT IN WELL WITH WITH THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ARE JUST GOING TO BE MORE GRAYS, BLACKS AND WHITES, BUT CERTAINLY TRYING TO TO CARRY THESE CEDAR TONES, WOOD TONES IN THERE, AND THEN NOT JUST HAVE YOUR PLAIN HORIZONTAL LAP SIDING, BUT HAVE SOME VERTICAL ELEMENTS TO IT, BRING SOME SOME TRANSITIONAL FARMHOUSE TYPE DESIGN TO TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO REALLY, THAT'S THAT'S THIS PROJECT IN A NUTSHELL.

I DO WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF DENTON, RIGHT, AND YOU FOLLOW LOOP TO 88, THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH GOING SOUTH ANYMORE.

YOU GOT THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE OVER THERE, YOU GOT DENTON CROSSING.

ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE MOVING NORTH UP ON TO 88.

AND THIS THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS WAS TARGETED TO BE A A HIGH DENSITY AREA PER YOUR YOUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT INTERSECTION.

IT'S A GREAT AREA, AND THERE'S JUST LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA AND FOR FOR THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL THAT'S TO COME.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING US CHAT.

GREAT. WE HAVE ONE, COUNCILMAN.

WHAT? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THESE WOULD BE MARKET RATE APARTMENT UNITS OR GARDEN APARTMENTS, ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO RENT IT FOR.

WHAT'S THE MARKET RIGHT NOW? A MARKET RATE ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM RIGHT NOW.

WHAT WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE AVERAGE OF THOSE NOT THAT ARE EITHER TAX CREDIT PROJECTS OR THINGS SUCH AS THAT, BUT TRULY MARKET RATE? WELL, IT REALLY DOES DEPEND I DON'T KNOW WHICH SCREEN TO LOOK AT WITH YOU ON ZOOM.

SORRY. IT REALLY DOES DEPEND ON THE AREA OF DENTON.

RIGHT. AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE TO TO THE CENTER OF DENTON, TO DOWNTOWN OR TO THE CAMPUSES, THOSE RENTS CAN BE WELL OVER TWO BUCKS.

RIGHT. BUT AS YOU START MOVING FURTHER EAST OR EVEN EVEN SOME AREAS IN RAZOR RANCH OR TO DOLLAR RENTS, BUT AS YOU START MOVING THIS WAY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT RENTS THAT THAT CAN BE IN THE DOLLAR, $75, $80, 85.

AND THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT THAT ARE CLOSER TO $2 IN THE AREA.

BUT IF YOU KIND OF BACK UP INTO WHAT THE AFFORDABILITY OF, SAY, A BUCK 85 OR A BUCK 90 IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO BACK AND KIND OF DO THE MATH ON IT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY IN THE 40 TO $45000 RANGE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD AN APARTMENT AT A BUCK 85, A BUCK 90.

ONE OTHER QUESTION, AND IT JUST NEEDS SOME HELP WITH SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TWO DIFFERENT TERMS USED.

I KNOW DURING STAFF PRESENT PRESENTATION, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT TREE PRESERVATION AND THAT THERE'S THE 30% AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S BASED UPON, I BELIEVE IN JULY, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

CALIPER INCHES OF THE TREE WHEREAS YOU'D MENTIONED THAT THE TREE CANOPY REQUIREMENTS THAT IT WAS 246 967 AND YOU ARE PROVIDING 365 520.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHEN YOU SAY TREE CANOPY REQUIREMENT.

IS THAT THE SAME AS WHEN JULIA'S AT THE SAME AS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE 30% OF TREATMENT? I'M JUST IT SEEMS LIKE IF THOSE TERMS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE, THAT'S FINE.

I JUST THEY SEEM. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE THE SAME AND THEY'RE RELATED.

SO WE DO HAVE THAT 30% INCHES PRESERVATION REQUIRED, BUT WE ALSO, IN EACH ZONING DISTRICT HAVE A MINIMUM CANOPY REQUIREMENT.

SO IN SKI DISTRICT, 30% MATURE CANOPY IS REQUIRED.

NOW TREES THAT THEY PRESERVE CAN BE COUNTED TOWARD THAT REQUIREMENT.

BUT BUT TYPICALLY, ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO MEET THAT OVERALL CANOPY.

SO IN TREE PLANTINGS WE'VE GOT THE CANOPY AND THEN IN THE TREE PRESERVATION YOU HAVE THE INCHES.

SO THEY'RE INTERRELATED BUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

OKAY. SO THEN THEN ON THIS, THIS THE DATA ON THE REQUIRED TREE CANOPY OF 246 967, HOW HAS THAT NUMBER DERIVED? BECAUSE I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE BASED UPON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE EITHER PRESERVING AND OR ADDING THE 365 520.

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YES. SO THAT INCLUDES THE TREE PRESERVATION.

SO WHATEVER TREE CANOPY IS ASSOCIATED WITH TREE PRESERVATION AND THEN THE TREES THAT THEY PLANT.

SO ALL THE STREET TREES, THE PARKING LOT TREES, THE TREES IN THE OPEN SPACE, ANY ANYTHING WE HAVE, WE HAVE IN OUR CRITERIA MANUALS WHAT THE EXPECTED MATURE CANOPY IS FOR EACH TREE TYPE.

SO FOR INSTANCE, A LARGE CANOPY TREE, WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL GENERATE 1256 SQUARE FEET OF CANOPY.

AND SO YOU LOOK AT WHAT TREES ARE BEING PLANTED OR PROPOSED AND THEN YOU DO THAT MATH ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

OKAY. AND THAT'S BASED UPON THE TREES OBTAINING SOME YEARS OF MATURITY.

I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT TAKING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S HOW THESE TREE CANOPY, THIS DATA HAS BEEN SORT OF PRESENTED.

IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS BASED UPON ONCE WE GET THE TREES TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, BASED UPON OUR PRESERVATION AND REPLANTING SO MANY YEARS PASS.

THIS IS THE CANOPY THAT WE ANTICIPATE HAVING.

AND THAT FIRST NUMBER OR THE 246 WAS THE CANOPY THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WATTS.

I HAD SIMILAR QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, I KNOW SOME OF THE FORMULA, BUT I HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THIS ISN'T A CRITICISM. I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO TRYING TO TO MAINTAIN AND INCREASE BOTH EXISTING CANOPY AND AND LANDSCAPING CANOPY.

I. YES.

WHAT WAS I MEAN, IT SEEMED LIKE BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL UNIT AND IN THE ONE AREA WHERE YOU USED TO HAVE A UNIT, YOU'RE SORT OF MAKING IT A SORT OF OPEN AREA PARK KIND OF ENVIRONMENT. WHAT WAS WHAT WAS STOPPING YOU FROM FROM SORT OF GETTING GOING THAT EXTRA LITTLE BIT AND GETTING UP TO THE DBA AT 30? WHAT WAS INHIBITING THAT FROM TAKING PLACE? BECAUSE I GUESS I AS I SAID TO JULIE, I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE THRESHOLDS.

AND I WANT TO BE FLEXIBLE.

I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE UPHELD.

BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, WE HAVE THRESHOLDS.

SO HELP HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT DISTINCTION, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

SURE. SO THIS IS WE GO TO THIS TREE PRESERVATION SLIDE THAT I HAVE HERE.

SO REALLY, THIS IS WHERE YOU'VE ME SEE, SORRY, GUYS, I'M TRYING TO GET THIS SO YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER.

THAT DIDN'T WORK. JULIE, CAN YOU HELP? WELL, LET ME JUST ZOOM IN HERE.

IT'S THAT TV LOOKING THING RIGHT NEXT TO THE ZOOM THING THAT YOU'RE CLICKING, THE LITTLE, I GUESS, SCREEN LOOKING.

I GUESS THAT ONE.

YEAH. YES.

SORRY. OKAY.

SO THERE'S A THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT.

RIGHT. AND WHAT WE LEARNED ON PHASE ONE IS THAT THERE IS A TREE PRESERVATION APPROVED WITH THIS PROJECT THAT THAT WE BOUGHT, THAT WE INHERITED THAT WAS NOT ACHIEVABLE. RIGHT.

THE GRADES WERE SUCH THAT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PUTTING TOO MUCH DIRT ON ON THE TREES OR MAYBE THERE WAS TOO BIG OF A CUT AND IT WAS GOING TO KILL THE TREE.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE LOOK AT THE GRADES, I MEAN, WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING EXTRA MONEY TO MAKE SPLIT LEVEL FOUNDATIONS OF THESE BUILDINGS TO TRY AND KEEP THE GRADE AS BEST THAT WE CAN.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

AND SO BUT IN THAT TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, WE WE WENT THROUGH AND BASICALLY FOUND EVERY TREE THAT WAS WITHIN DARREN, WAS IT FIVE OR TEN FEET FROM A BUILDING? OKAY.

SO ANY TREE THAT WAS WITHIN FIVE FEET OF A BUILDING, WE WE KNEW THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO GOING TO LIVE.

AND SO WE'VE GOT SOME TREES THAT ARE MAYBE SEVEN FEET OR TEN FEET.

AND SO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH COLLEEN AT THE CITY IS THAT SHE'S CONCERNED THAT THOSE TREES AREN'T GOING TO MAKE IT.

AND WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS.

WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

AND PART OF MY BACKGROUND IN CONSTRUCTION IS IS HEAVY CIVIL CONSTRUCTION.

SO I KNOW GRADING, I KNOW UTILITIES THAT WE CAN DO THESE FOUNDATIONS IN A WAY WHERE WE DO THINK THAT WE CAN PRESERVE THOSE TREES.

WE ALSO HAVE A TREE CONSULTANT THAT IS THAT IS ON BOARD AS THAT WORKS WITH US WITH OUR TREE PRESERVATION PLAN AND COMES UP WITH PLANS THAT, HEY, IF WE GO IN HERE AND MAYBE THESE ROOTS GET CUT, IS IT GOING TO KILL THE TREE?

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AND MAYBE IF HE THINKS THAT THAT IT COULD BE MARGINAL, HE SAYS HE'S GOT A HORMONE THAT HE CAN PUT IN THE GROUND THAT CAN GIVE THOSE TREES A BETTER CHANCE AT LIVING.

SO WE DO FEEL THAT THE TREE PRESERVATION THAT WE'VE CALCULATED IS ACHIEVABLE.

AND THROUGH THE CITY AND THROUGH THESE CONVERSATIONS, THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, WE HOPE YOU CAN HIT THAT THAT 30. BUT ARE YOU ARE YOU WILLING TO AT LEAST COMMIT TO 27%? AND WITHOUT EVEN HESITATION, WE SAID YES, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO US.

AND IF WE HAVE TO SHIFT THINGS A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE IN ORDER TO SAVE TREES, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

COLLEEN WAS ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE SIDEWALK LAYOUT AND THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, WHICH WE'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.

WE CAN MOVE THESE SIDEWALKS HOWEVER WE NEED TO TO AVOID TREE ROOTS.

SAME THING WITH UTILITIES, RIGHT? WE DURING THE SOUP PROCESS, YOU REALLY DON'T GO SPEND $200,000 TO DO A FULL CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN.

WE WE HAVE SPENT A TON OF MONEY GETTING TO THE POINT HERE.

WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE DONE THE FULL ENGINEERING DESIGN, BUT IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TREES THAT WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE, WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE. BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, PHASE ONE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T DESIGN IT.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIX IT.

AND THERE'S JUST BEEN SOME FRUSTRATIONS ON BOTH SIDES THAT I'VE AS I TOLD COLLEEN, HEY, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO TRUST ME.

I'M ASKING YOU TO GIVE ME A CHANCE.

BECAUSE WHEN WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO DO SOMETHING, WE'RE GOING TO GO DO IT.

AND SHE SAYS, ARE YOU WILLING TO BACK IT UP AND PRESERVE 27%? SO ABSOLUTELY. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE EVEN MORE TREES.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO SAVE EVERYONE THAT WE CAN BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES THE PROJECT BETTER.

I APPRECIATE THAT WILLINGNESS.

I WILL ADMIT THAT THERE'S THERE'S BEEN MANY PROJECTS IN TOWN WHERE WE WERE SIMILARLY TOLD WILLINGNESS TO DO SO, BUT CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES ENDED UP KILLING ROOT BEDS AND THOSE TREES WERE LOST.

AND I MEAN, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW ALL THOSE TREES ARE NO LESS THAN 50,000 FOR THOSE MATURE TREES.

SO THAT THAT'S YOUR VALUE YOU'RE LOSING, THAT'S COMMUNITY VALUE.

YOU'RE LOSING 100%.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WE TAKE OUR WORD SERIOUSLY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT CITIES ALL OVER THE PLACE HAVE PROMISES THAT PEOPLE COME IN AND PROMISE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, THEN THEY DON'T DO IT.

AND CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT REFERENCES OF OTHER CITIES THAT WE'VE HAD COUNCILMEN CALL OR CITY STAFF CALL TO SAY, HEY, THESE GUYS SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS OR ARE THEY GOING TO DO THIS? AND THEY WILL BACK UP AND SAY, YES, THEY WILL.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WILL MAKE A COMMENT ON THE ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL.

YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT KIDS WALKING TO RYAN.

I DON'T I DON'T WALK INTO RYAN HIGH SCHOOL OUT THE EAST SIDE.

THERE. THAT'S. THAT'S DANGEROUS.

THAT'S. WELL, THAT'S UNSAFE.

YOU KNOW, PART OF PART OF WHAT THAT HUMMINGBIRD EXTENSION IS THAT WE HAVE TO REDO THE SIGNALING OVER THERE.

AND SO THERE WILL BE A CROSSWALK THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ACROSS MAY HILL FROM HUMMINGBIRD.

ALL RIGHT. THAT THAT THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHERWISE THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET TRYING TO GET TO SCHOOL.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. YES. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SO WE'LL GO FROM TREES TO FAMILIES.

YES, MA'AM. IS THIS A FAMILY FRIENDLY, COMPLEX? HOW MANY? HOW MANY? TELL US ABOUT HOW MANY BEDROOMS. I MEAN, HOW MANY? YES, MA'AM.

A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S 65%, ONE BEDROOMS, AND WE'VE THE REMAINING 35%.

I THINK WE'RE AT 5%.

THREE BEDROOMS AND THE REST ARE TWO BEDROOMS. SO WHAT ABOUT ONE BEDROOMS? 1.5%. ONE BEDROOM, ONE BEDROOMS. OKAY. AND YOU SAID IT WAS FOR PROFESSIONALS.

CONNECT THAT WITH ANY KIND OF AMENITIES FOR THE KIDS THAT MAY BE LIVING THERE.

HAVE YOU ALL CONSIDERED ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES? ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, ALONG WITH THE DOG PARK AND WE HAVE THREE OTHER OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THOSE AREAS? I THINK THAT THAT THAT TREE PRESERVATION AREA, WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

AND SO WHAT WE ENVISION ARE BENCHES AND HAMMOCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE AND RELAX AND BE IN THE SHADE.

WE'VE GOT OTHER AREAS THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE, BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL AREA THAT THAT WE COULD PUT IN A PARK AND THEN THE AREA DOWN ON THE SOUTH WILL WILL BE ANOTHER AREA.

WE DO HAVE SOME CONCEPTUAL IMAGES OF THOSE THAT WE'VE DONE SOME STUDIES AND WE WILL NOT BE LEAVING THOSE THOSE OPEN.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S PART OF OF THE APPROACH OF CREATING A NEIGHBORHOOD IS IS THAT YOU WANT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMEBODY'S HOME,

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THIS IS WHERE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO LIVE.

THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO LIVE THERE FOR.

YOU KNOW, A MONTH, HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT A YEAR OR TEN YEARS.

IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEBODY'S HOME.

OKAY. WELL, I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU ALL WOULD JUST KEEP KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE KIDS LIVING THERE FROM WHATEVER AGE THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.

SO IN YOUR CONCEPTION, AS YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE AREAS, I'D LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO ADD THAT AS PART OF PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

CHILDREN. AND THE OTHER THING IS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THOSE MEANDERING SIDEWALKS.

AND I'VE BEEN TO VARIOUS PLACES WHERE I'VE SEEN, LIKE THOSE LITTLE EXERCISE STATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE KIND OF ROUND.

HAD YOU ALL THOUGHT OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AND I'M GOING TO GET YOU TO TRUNCATE YOUR ANSWERS A LITTLE BIT.

SORRY. NO WORRIES. I'M JUST LIGHTNING ROUND.

YEAH, I CAN TALK TO YOU.

OKAY. WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S IT'S TRYING TO STRATEGICALLY FIND A PLACE WHERE WE CAN PUT THOSE.

OKAY. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF.

JUST ONE QUESTION. I GUESS THIS IS PROBABLY FOR STAFF.

TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE, CORRECT? CORRECT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS TRAFFIC GOING EAST FROM THIS AREA ON MCKINNEY, WHICH IS AN AREA THAT TRADITIONALLY ALREADY SEES A BACKUP OF TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING AND IN THE EVENING.

AND I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO SEE WHAT WAS WHAT WAS DETERMINED ON THAT.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT THAT IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS FOR THIS PROJECT, THERE THERE WASN'T AN INDICATION THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD CREATE A WOULD WOULD.

CREATE PROBLEMS FOR CAPACITY IN ANY OF THESE INTERSECTIONS.

SO IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT INTERSECTION OR THE SURROUNDING INTERSECTIONS.

THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS THE CONCERN WAS THAT INTERSECTION FROM MAYHILL TO HUMMINGBIRD, AND THAT WAS THAT LEFT TURN LANE.

SO. SO I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT INTERSECTION BUT BUT THERE SEEMED TO BE PLENTY OF CAPACITY WITHIN THE AREA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MURPHY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. STRANGE. DO YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK? IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE 4 MINUTES.

I WON'T BE THAT LONG. MY NAME IS DAVE STRANGE.

531 NORTH LOCUST DENTON, TEXAS.

76201. I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.

WE'VE HAD THE PROPERTY FOR OVER TEN YEARS, SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT.

AND IF I COULD GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT I'VE GOT A LONG THAT I THINK THE DEVELOPER'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF HIGHLIGHTING THE INFORMATION, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF IT.

THIS IS A PROPERTY, AS I SAY, WE HAVE HAD FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

WE ACCUMULATED 14 TRACTS OF PROPERTY OUT HERE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER SO WE HAVE AN INTEREST IN IT.

I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF DENTON AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT THING FOR THAT PROPERTY.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OR JUST TO BE DETERMINED? YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST WE HAVE SEVERAL PROSPECTS WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN CONTRACT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE PLANS FOR JUST TO ANSWER THE ONE QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN WATTS.

WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO TAKE HUMMINGBIRD ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

IT WILL GO FROM LOOP TO 88 ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO BAY HILL.

IT WILL NOT BE A STUBBS ROAD IN THE MIDDLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. PAT SMITH. BLESS YOU.

AND HE'S IN SUPPORT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.

MR. GREG JOHNSON HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

OH, I WAS GOING TO. YEAH, COME ON DOWN.

IF YOU CAN GIVE IF YOU CAN GIVE YOU YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE AND WE'LL SEE.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE AND WE'LL SEE HOW WE GO.

3190 TEASLEY.

I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THE EAST SIDE OF DENTON HAS BEEN IGNORED FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

RIGHT. NORTH SIDE GOT RAZOR RANCH.

THE SOUTH SIDE HAS A LITTLE RETAIL.

YOU GOT THREE GENTLEMEN THAT HAVE MADE ALL THE MONEY THEY EVER NEED IN THEIR LIFE, WHO PULLED THEIR MONEY TOGETHER AND BOUGHT 72 ACRES OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD TO BRING SOMETHING GREAT TO THE EAST SIDE OF DENTON. AND OUR FIRM HAS BEEN FORTUNATE TO BE INVOLVED WITH IT NOW FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, AND IT'S ALL FINALLY COMING TO FRUITION NOW.

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ALMOST ALL THE PROPERTY IS IN CONTRACT FROM LUKE TO 88 TO THESE TWO APARTMENT PROJECTS.

AND SO I'M JUST SUPER PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT.

AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.

TO THAT END, DO YOU WANT TO SPEND JUST A MOMENT AND TALK ABOUT EXACTLY THAT? RIGHT. SO TRAFFIC CURRENTLY HAS TO LEAVE THAT AREA AND IT ALL KIND OF COLLECTS THERE AT THE LOOP.

AND SO THIS ALLEVIATES SOME OF THAT IN THEORY WITH PEOPLE HAVING OPTIONS.

BUT I'LL ASK YOU TO SPEAK TO THAT.

OKAY. WELL, I HAD BEAUTIFUL 1711 BY 17 PRINTOUTS OF THIS THAT'S ON MY PHONE.

AND IF WE CAN GET A LOT OUT THERE GETTING WET, IF WE CAN GET THE DOCUMENT CAMERA, IF YOU CAN ZOOM ON THAT OR NOT.

YEAH. SO THIS IS JUST THIS IS KIND OF ROUGH THAT I PUT TOGETHER, BUT YOU CAN SEE.

SO HUMMINGBIRD, BASICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS BRIDGEVIEW IS BUILDING THE SECTION FROM MAYHILL TO THE WEST END OF THEIR PROPERTY.

THE RETAIL TENANT THAT IS ADJACENT TO THEM TO THE WEST WILL BUILD THAT SECTION.

AND MR. STRANGE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT TO CONSTRUCT THE SECTION RIGHT NOW THAT'S A LITTLE DARKER FROM THE LOOP GOING EASTBOUND.

SO THAT WILL ALL BE BUILT BY THE TIME ANY OF THIS IS DEVELOPED.

IT'LL HAVE TO BE AND PART OF OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE PURCHASERS IS THEY HAVE TO BUILD THEIR SECTION OF ROAD AS A PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT SO THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION.

THEY'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO BUILD IT.

THE. SO RETAIL, FOOD, FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT.

I CAN SHARE WITH YOU GUYS INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHO THE SPECIFIC USERS ARE.

I JUST CAN'T SAY PUBLICLY WHO THEY ARE YET BECAUSE THEY WANT TO CONTROL THAT MESSAGE.

BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY, THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE OF THAT SIDE OF TOWN.

AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE PART OF IT.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE THANK YOU.

IT IS A IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? YOU CAN COME DOWN, SPEAK, AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD.

SEEING NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TAKE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, I MOVE APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

THIS MOTION BY MAYOR HUDSPETH SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WATTS.

DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE.

I'M AN I.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S ALL RIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

I CUT SOME BYRD.

I COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE I COUNCIL MEMBER FOR TEN BACK.

I'M NOT GOING TO SCREW IT UP.

I DO HAVE SOME GRAVE MISGIVINGS.

I HOPE. I HOPE WE HOLD TO OUR PROMISES ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.

BUT I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU TO YOUR WORD.

I'M GOING TO VOTE. I OK.

AND THAT PASSES SIX ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT.

THANK YOU ALL. TAKES US TO ITEM C IS PDA 220004A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.

[C. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the Detailed Plan for 7.2 acres of land in Sections J & K of The Preserve at Pecan Creek (PD - 132), generally located at the southwest corner of Lakeview Boulevard and Edwards Road, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s Official Zoning Map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted (6-1) to recommend approval the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Anderson and second by Commissioner Pruett. (PDA22-0004a, Preserve at Pecan Creek J & K Amendment, Julie Wyatt)]

GOOD EVENING. MAY PULL UP MY PRESENTATION.

AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO I FORGET.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. JULIE WYATT, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF DENTON.

I'M PRESENTING PDA 20 2-000 FOR A THAT PRESERVE IT FOR CONCRETE.

THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PD 132.

JUST BRIEFLY, THIS WILL NOT CHANGE ANY PERMITTED USES ON THE SITE OR INCREASE DENSITIES.

THE REQUEST IS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, IN PARTICULAR THE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE AND THEN ALSO THE REAR BUILDING LINE.

JUST A BRIEF HISTORY ON PD 132.

IT'S ACTUALLY KNOWN AS THE PRESERVE.

IT BEGAN IN 1988.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN INCLUDED 35% BUILDING COVERAGE.

HOWEVER, BUILDING COVERAGE FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT WAS REMOVED IN IN 1998, SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PRESERVE DEVELOPED WITHOUT ANY MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE.

SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER SECTIONS J AND K WERE ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

HOWEVER, WITH MOBILITY PLAN CHANGES AND JUST CHANGES TO THAT PART OF TOWN, COMMERCIAL NO LONGER WORKED IN THAT SECTION, SO THEY REQUESTED TO CHANGE THAT PERMITTED USE TO

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THERE WERE CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT APPROVAL, INCLUDING TREE PRESERVATION.

THEY HAD TO COMPLY WITH 2019 STANDARDS FOR TREE PRESERVATION, MINIMUM LANDSCAPING FOR BOTH FRONT AND REAR YARDS, STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS AND A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT LAKEVIEW.

AND THEN THE ENTRANCE TO THIS LITTLE SECTION, AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, THEY'VE ACTUALLY COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THERE.

THE AMENITY CENTER FOR THE PRESERVE IS JUST EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE SAFE CROSSING THE POLES FOR THE STOP SIGNS ARE INSTALLED.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE STOP SIGNS ARE HAVE ARE THERE YET, BUT BUT THEY WILL BE SOON.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THE REQUEST IS NOT TO CHANGE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

AND EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO ELEMENTS, THE BUILDING COVERAGE.

INCREASE IT FROM 33% TO 55% AND THEN THAT REAR BUILDING SETBACK.

SO AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, WE LOOKED AT JUST THE PRESERVE AND THE AREA AROUND THE PRESERVE LOOKED AT WHAT THE AVERAGE LOT SIZES WERE AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND WHAT THOSE AVERAGE LOT COVERAGES WERE.

WE FOUND ANYWHERE FROM 17% LOT COVERAGE FOR SOME OF THE LARGER LOTS ALL THE WAY UP TO 40%, 46% LOT COVERAGE.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT IT BY LOT THOSE SMALLER SIZE SMALLER LOTS TENDED TO HAVE LARGER LOT COVERAGE WITH WITH THE SMALLER LOT COVERAGE ON THE LARGER LOTS.

AND THEN THE REAR SETBACK FOR THE PRESERVE IS EITHER FIVE OR TEN FEET, DEPENDING ON WHAT SECTION OR WHAT PHASE YOU'RE IN.

SO SO THOSE SO THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT FIVE OR TEN FOOT SETBACK.

THE PROPOSED BUILDING COVERAGE IS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THAT SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR A DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL VARIETY.

SO WHAT THIS WOULD ALLOW IS JUST FOR LARGER HOUSES TO BE PUT ON THOSE LOTS, ONE STORY HOUSES OR DIFFERENT GARAGE CONFIGURATIONS.

BUT WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE WERE SENSITIVE TO THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH TO THIS SUBJECT SITE.

AND THAT'S WHERE THAT INCREASED REAR YARD SETBACK CAME IN, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER HOUSES.

IF APPROVED, WE WANTED THAT INCREASE SETBACK TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE IMPACTS WOULD BE MITIGATED.

AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO STILL NEED TO MEET THAT MINIMUM LANDSCAPING IN THEIR REAR YARD OF 20%.

AND THE REQUEST IS REALLY PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT CODE IN THE THE 29 1019 DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO THE PRESERVE, ARE THREE AND ARE FOUR.

THEY ALLOW FOR 50% BUILDING COVERAGE.

AND THEN OUR SIX ALLOWS FOR 60% BUILDING COVERAGE.

SO IT REALLY IS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR OUR TYPICAL SUBURBAN ZONING DISTRICTS.

PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS SENT OUT.

WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER IN OPPOSITION AND THEN TWO IN FAVOR.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION, A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT CAME UP AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AND RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS AND WOULD THEY BE MASONRY OR WHAT THOSE EXTERIOR MATERIALS WOULD BE.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT LAST CASE, WE NO LONGER HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUIRE A MINIMUM MASONRY.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IF HO WANTED TO REQUIRE, THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THAT PRIVATE SIDE.

BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF DENTON CAN ENFORCE.

ALSO, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT FLOODING ON LAKEVIEW THAT WAS MENTIONED AT AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

IN YOUR EYES, THAT HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

THE LAKEVIEW DID HAVE A OR THIS AREA HAD A SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENT RECENTLY, AND LAKEVIEW DID EXPERIENCE SOME FLOODING, AND THAT WAS RELATED TO EROSION CONTROLS THAT WERE ACTUALLY INSTALLED THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL DEVELOPMENTS WHEN THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WHEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THEY THEY DISTURB THE VEGETATION AND CAN CREATE CONDITIONS WHERE THERE'S EROSION.

AND THAT SEDIMENT WOULD WOULD THEN GO TO OUR STORM SEWER SYSTEM.

SO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS THEY HAVE TO PUT COVERING OVER THOSE INLETS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SEDIMENT IS FILTERED OUT.

THAT BECAME CLOGGED DURING THAT RAIN EVENT, WHICH THEY SOMETIMES DO.

THE CITY WENT OUT AND OPENED THAT UP AND THE WATER DRAINED AWAY.

SO IT REALLY WASN'T RELATED TO THE DESIGN.

IT WAS RELATED TO THAT EROSION CONTROL.

AND WE JUST MADE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP THOSE MAINTAINED, PUT THAT BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IT'S FUNCTIONING ONCE, ONCE HOUSES ARE ON THE SIDE AND GRASS IS LAID DOWN, THAT EROSION CONTROL MEASURE WON'T BE NECESSARY BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE PROPER, PROPER GROUND

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SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO YOU.

SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST 6 TO 1 AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMEND A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAS A PRESENTATION, BUT HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JULIE.

BEFORE WE HAD THE PUBLIC SESSION, YOU AND I WERE CHATTING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN 33 AND 55.

FOR THE SAKE OF COMPLETENESS WITH THE DICE, WOULD YOU GO OVER THAT CONVERSATION WE HAD AND AND LET THE COUNCIL KNOW SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE? ABSOLUTELY. SO THE THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2019 HAD THAT MAXIMUM 33% BUILDING COVERAGE.

THAT'S JUST A BUILDING.

IT'S NOT ALL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

SO THAT THIS ISN'T RELATED TO MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE, THEY COULD THEY COULD PAVE OVER ADDITIONAL PORTIONS OF THE LOT.

THIS REALLY IS JUST RELATED TO THAT SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY WENT THROUGH ALL OF DURING THE PLANNING OF THIS PROPERTY.

THEY WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE DESIGN REVIEW.

YOU WITH CITY STAFF REGARDING DRAINAGE FACILITIES, AND THEY DID ACCOUNT FOR SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY TO TO ACCOMMODATE A LARGER BUILDING SIZE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF.

P AND Z WHO VOTED NO? DO YOU REMEMBER COMMISSIONER VILLAREAL? OK THE ONE PERSON IN OPPOSITION.

DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WHAT THEY SAID? IT WAS RELATED TO THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR..

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ONE THAT IS REQUESTED TO SPEAK.

COME ON DOWN AND THEN WE'LL FILL OUT A CARD AFTER IT.

YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND THEN YOU HAVE 4 MINUTES.

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS BRENTON SIERRA, AND I'M WITH FOUR STAR REAL ESTATE GROUP, THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY.

OUR ADDRESS IS 2221 EAST LAMAR BOULEVARD, SUITE 790, ARLINGTON, TEXAS 76006.

AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO REACH OUT ABOUT THE THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS, SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T REALLY TOUCH ON IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS DESIGNED THIS SITE TO ACCOMMODATE A 55% BUILDING COVERAGE.

I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DISCREPANCY AND UNDERSTANDING AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT WE DESIGNED IT FOR 33% AND ARE NOW TRYING TO GET APPROVAL FOR 55.

WE DESIGN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY WITH THE SAME STANDARD AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DESIGN PROCESS WENT THROUGH AT 55% WITH OUR TYPICAL LOT DETAIL AS OPPOSED TO 30.

SO IF YOU DROVE OUT TO THE SITE TODAY, YOU WOULD SEE PADS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE A 55% BUILDING COVERAGE HOME.

OK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. YOU GUYS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM. I'M I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL.

I AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN NOT THE DEVELOPER OR STAFF, BUT THAT GENERALLY THAT WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH ON OUR ORIGINAL GOALS OF MAKING MICRO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE MIXED USE, NEIGHBORHOODS OF RETAIL AND WHATNOT.

I UNDERSTAND MARKET CONDITIONS CHANGE AND AND AND MOBILITY ISSUES LIMIT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF EMBEDDING CERTAIN RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DO.

I WISH WE WOULD STICK TO SOME OF THOSE ASPIRATIONAL GOALS A LITTLE TIGHTER, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL.

COUNCILMAN BURT, IT'S A SECOND.

OK MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BYRD ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MAYOR PRO TEM HOW SAY YOU, COUNCILMAN BERT? I COUNCILOR, WHAT'S.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE DAVIS I AM.

MARY HUDSPETH IS I? O. COUNCILWOMAN MCGEE I.

PASS THE SIX ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM D.

[D. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Residential Rural (RR) to Residential 1 (R1) District on approximately 4.18 acres of land generally located approximately 2,862 feet north of the Swisher Road and Edwards Road intersection, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s Official Zoning Map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [7-0] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Smith and second by Commissioner Anderson. (Z22-0015a, AFCM Swisher Rezoning, Ashley Ekstedt).]

THIS IS Z2201.

PARDON ME. Z220015.

A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, REGARDING A CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND USE CLASSIFICATIONS FROM RESIDENTIAL RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ONE DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 4.118 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 162 FEET NORTH OF

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GOOD EVENING, ASHLEY. ASSISTANT PLANNER.

THIS IS A FCM SWITCHER REZONING.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4.18 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL, RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL ONE.

THE SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SWISHER ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 2860 FEET NORTH OF EDWARDS ROAD.

THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY NON CONFORMING WITH OUR ZONING SINCE IT DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF FIVE ACRES.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND MEETS THE OTHER CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

THE DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.

FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW RESIDENTIAL AND THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE SUBDIVIDED INTO MORE THAN TWO LOTS, AS THE DDC DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF TWO ACRES WHEN USING WELL WATER AND A SEPTIC SYSTEM.

WHEN THIS SITE WAS ANNEXED, IT WAS GIVEN PLACEHOLDER ZONING OF FIVE X AND THAT WAS THEN THE TRANSITION TO OUR ZONING WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2019 DDC. SO THE CURRENT ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW DEVELOPMENT ON A LOT SMALLER THAN FIVE ACRES.

THEREFORE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS UNUSABLE.

PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS DONE.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS IT DOES COMPLY WITH ALL THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OK. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DIDN'T I DON'T RECOGNIZE YOUR YOUR LAST NAME ON EMAILS.

NEWISH OR FIRST PERSON NEW ISH.

LAST NAME? YEAH.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

AND HAVE YOU PRESENTED BEFORE? NOT AT COUNCIL. OH, MAN, YOU DID GREAT.

YEAH, WELL, THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN CUE UP SOME HARD QUESTIONS.

NO. YEAH.

SO HERE YOU GO. GET YOUR CALCULATOR.

COUNSELOR, WHAT'S.

REAL QUICK, JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION IS AH, AH, I'M THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE.

PROBABLY. THAT'S NOT IT.

WHAT IS THE DEFAULT ZONING WHEN WE ANNEX SOMETHING? IS IT THAT IS OUR OUR ZONING.

OKAY. SO IS THE RR THERE BECAUSE WE ANNEXED IT? YES, IT IS. AND THAT WAS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE CAN ANNEX SOMETHING AND CREATE A NON CONFORMING USE THAT'S RENDERS THE PROPERTY UNUSABLE.

YES, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO REZONE WHEN WE ANNEXED IT.

IT WENT TO FIVE X AT THAT TIME, WHICH WAS IN THE OLD CODE.

SO THEN WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 29 DDC, IT WAS CHANGED TO OUR ZONING AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS NOW.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK.

SEEING NONE, I CLOSE YOU.

YEAH. YES. YOU GOT TO COME TO ADAMS HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

OK GOT IT.

ANY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR ANYONE ELSE? NOPE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MAYOR PRO TEM. OH, I HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS. NO, I MOVE APPROVAL.

OK COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS SECOND.

GOT IT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE MAYOR PRO TEM ICU I COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

I COUNCILMAN MCGEE I COUNCILMAN BYRD I CANCER WHAT I MAYOR HUDSPETH IS I AS WELL.

PASSES SIX ZERO TAKES US TO OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ITEM E, WHICH IS PD A220006B

[E. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the Detailed Plan for 7.12 acres of land in Planned Development 12 (PD-12), generally located on the southbound service road of I-35E, approximately 4,900 feet south of State School Road, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s Official Zoning Map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted (6-0) to recommend approval the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Smith and second by Commissioner Cole. (PDA22-0006b, Automotive Expansion, Julie Wyatt)]

12 GENERALLY LOCATED ON SOUTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD OF 35 APPROXIMATELY 44,900 FEET SOUTH OF STATE SCHOOL ROAD IN THE CITY OF DENTON, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS, ADOPTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP. GOVERNANCE OF YOU.

OKAY, EXCELLENT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL LISA GORSKI, ASSISTANT PLANNING DIRECTOR.

I WILL TRY TO GET US THROUGH THIS AS ELOQUENTLY AS JULIE WOULD HAVE.

SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS AN AMENDMENT TO ONE OF OUR OLDER PD'S PD 12 WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, PRIMARILY LOCATED ALONG I 35 ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF TOWN. THE DETAILED PLAN AND CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE THE PORTION OF THIS LOT THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS WERE ESTABLISHED IN 1997 AND THEN AMENDED IN 2010.

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ONE OF THE KEY THINGS TO NOTE ON THIS SIDE IS IT DOES SPLIT CITY OF DENTON AND CITY CURRENT LIMITS.

SO THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING A PARALLEL PATH TO AMEND THE PD WITH BOTH CITIES.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT THE PERMITTING WILL GO THROUGH THE CITY OF DENTON SINCE THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE AND THE BUILDINGS FALL WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS. SO JUST WALKING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN BRIEFLY, THE BUILDING IN YELLOW IS WHAT IS EXISTING ON SITE.

THERE ARE A FEW PIECES BEING ADDED TO THE SITE.

THOSE ARE SHOWN IN THE BLUISH PURPLE COLOR ON YOUR MAP.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE REMOVING A PORTION OF ONE OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND EXPANDING APPROXIMATELY 16,000 SQUARE FEET TO THEIR VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. THE BUILDING THAT SPLITS THE CITY LIMITS LINE THERE, REMOVING A VERY SMALL BUILDING THAT'S THERE TODAY, THAT'S ABOUT 1300 SQUARE FEET AND CONSTRUCTING A NEW 13,000 SQUARE FEET SERVICE RECEPTION AREA FOR PEOPLE TO DROP THEIR CAR OFF, SIT AND WAIT FOR THEIR CARS WHILE THE SERVICE IS BEING DONE.

AND THEN THE CAR WOULD COME BACK TO THEM AT THAT LOCATION.

SOME OF THE OTHER SITE CHANGES THEY ARE ADDING A RETAINING WALL AND RECONFIGURING SOME OF THE ONSITE PARKING AND VEHICLE INVENTORY SPACE AND THEN THEY ARE MOVING THE DUMPSTER LOCATION THAT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE SOUTH OF THERE.

IT'S MOVING TO THIS LOCATION THAT'S SHOWN IN BLUE HERE TO BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THOSE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE INSET MAP, THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN A REGIONAL MIXED USE AREA ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO THIS IS THE PART OF TOWN WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THESE AUTOMOTIVE TYPE USES.

THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT THE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN YOUR BACK UP.

THEY ARE COLOR CODED ON THE SCREEN.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE TO THAT EXISTING BUILDING ARE SHOWN IN PINK.

WE HAVE THE PORTION FACING I 35 HERE IN THE DARK BLUE THAT IS THIS AREA HERE.

THE SECOND IMAGE DOWN THE DARK PURPLE OUTLINED AREA IS SHOWING YOU THAT REAR FACING PORTION.

SO THERE ARE A FEW DOCK DOORS BEING ADDED THAT WOULD FACE TOWARDS THOSE HOMES.

AND THEN THE AREA IN YELLOW AND THE AREA IN YELLOW HERE IS THE SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.

AND THEN THE ORANGE IS THE OTHER FORD FACING BUILDING ON THAT RECEPTION LOCATION THAT THEY'RE ADDING, LOOKING AT THE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THIS AND THE COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT LAND USES, THERE ARE NO NEW ACTIVITIES GOING ON SITE.

THEY'RE JUST EXPANDING THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND ADDING TO THE THE SERVICES THAT THEY CAN OFFER THOSE RESIDENTS AND OR THE I'M SORRY, THE THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT THEIR SITE IN TERMS OF ADDING THAT SERVICE RECEPTION BUILDING AND EXPANDING THEIR VEHICLE BAYS, THEY ARE ADDING SOME LANDSCAPING TO HELP INCREASE SCREENING ALONG OUR 35 AS WELL AS ADJACENT TO THOSE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT ARE IN CORINTH, JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY'RE ADDING A TOTAL OF 72 NEW TREES, PRESERVING 38 TREES ON THE PROPERTY.

45 OF THOSE ARE WITHIN THE BUFFER.

THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THERE IS AN EXISTING RETAINING WALL THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THESE IMAGES.

SO THERE'S QUITE AN ELEVATION DIFFERENCE WHERE THE HOMES ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED HIGHER THAN THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

SO BETWEEN THAT WALL REMAINING IN PLACE AND THOSE PLANTINGS, IT WILL ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SCREENING FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.

AND THEN THEY'RE ADDING SOME LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE PARKING LOT AND AS WELL USE YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THERE, ARCHITECTURE IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S THERE TODAY AND WHAT WE SEE WITH OTHER DEALERSHIPS ALONG OUR 35 PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS CONDUCTED.

THERE WAS ONE RESIDENT THAT RESPONDED IN OPPOSITION.

THAT RESIDENT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF CORINTH.

NO, NO. DENTON RESIDENTS ARE NEARBY TO OPPOSE THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE BOTH RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU CAN. SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN.

THESE CONDITIONS ARE MODIFICATIONS TO WHAT WAS IMPOSED IN 1997 WHEN THOSE STANDARDS WERE FIRST DEVELOPED FOR THIS SITE.

SO THESE ARE A COMBINATION OF CONTINUING THOSE AS WELL AS BRINGING SOME OF THEM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE 2019 DTC.

SO THE FIRST CRITERIA IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM ON SITE AS PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS.

THE SECOND IS WITH RESPECT TO EXTERIOR LIGHTING THAT ANY LIGHTING INSTALLED AFTER THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL WOULD FOLLOW THE CURRENT STANDARDS AND SUBCHAPTER SEVEN OF THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN BEING SUBMITTED WITH THEIR BUILDING PERMIT AND TURNING OFF ANY OF THOSE LIGHTS AT 9 P.M., AS IS THEIR CURRENT STANDARD FOR THE SITE CONDITION. THREE IS THAT THE SITE MUST CONFORM TO THE TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT IS REFLECTED ON THEIR PLAN WITH THOSE PRESERVED TREES THAT WE SAW CALLED OUT AND THAT THEY MAINTAIN.

FINALLY, THAT SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE TO INCREASE THE SCREENING.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK, DO WE DOES IT IS IT GO ON SAID OR DO WE NEED TO SPEAK TO THE HOURS THEY CAN WORK FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES.

BEING THAT CLOSE TO HOUSES, I'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A DEFINITIVE START AND STOP TIME THAT WE'VE AGREED TO.

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GOT IT. AND AND DOES THE CITY CIRCULATE INFORMATION ON WHO TO CALL IF THEY HAVE THOSE CONCERNS OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF I'M LIVING THERE AND I FEEL LIKE THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THOSE HOURS OR THOSE HOURS BEING VIOLATED, HOW DO WE HOW DOES THAT PERSON KNOW WHO TO CALL? SO THOSE ARE CURRENT RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEARBY.

BUT THERE IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN DENTON AND CURRENT AS TO HOW THE PERMITTING AND INSPECTIONS WOULD OCCUR ON THIS SITE.

SO IF THEY WERE TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF CORINTH, THEY WOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO GET THEM IN TOUCH WITH THE ASSIGNED INSPECTOR WHO COULD GO OUT AND HANDLE THOSE CONCERNS.

GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OK? ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS IS A PUBLIC ITEM YOU CAN SPEAK.

JUST HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS.

SEE? NONE. OH.

IF YOU CAN GIVE YOU A NAME, YOU HAVE 4 MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SURE.

I'LL BE. I'LL BE BRIEF.

I'M THE APPLICANT.

MY NAME IS BIRGER.

I'M WITH AIR DESIGN GROUP, AND I REPRESENT GROUP ONE AUTOMOTIVE WHO PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY.

I'M JUST WANT TO BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TAKE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR A MOTION.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS MOVE APPROVAL.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, ICU.

I COUNCILMAN MCGEE I MAYOR PRO TEM.

COUNCILMAN BYRD I.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S NOT? I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

HI. THANK YOU. AND MAYOR HUDSPETH OSWALD PASSED A60.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT COMPLETES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, TAKES US TO OUR LAST THREE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton ordering an election for Districts 1, 2, 3 and 4 to be held on May 6, 2023, and, if required, a runoff election to be held on June 10, 2023; prescribing the time, manner, and conduct of the election in accordance with a Joint Election Agreement and Contract for election services with the Elections Administrator of Denton County; and providing an effective date.]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, ORDERING AN ELECTION FOR DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR TO BE HELD MAY SIX, 2023, AND IF REQUIRED, A RUNOFF ELECTION TO BE HELD ON JUNE TEN, 2023.

PRESCRIBING THE TIME AND MANNER AND CONDUCT OF OF THE ELECTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT FOR ELECTION SERVICES WITH ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS, ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATORS OF DENTON COUNTY, AND PROVIDING AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ROSARIO'S AND I'M YOUR CITY SECRETARY.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN.

SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE ORDER FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON MAY 6TH FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE CONTRACT WILL BE WITH DENTON COUNTY.

AS FOR PREVIOUS ELECTIONS, THE COST THERE IS NONE AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNTIL WE PRESENT THE CONTRACT AT A LATER DATE.

THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD IS NOTED HERE AND OF COURSE OUR ELECTION NOTICE WILL INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION.

WE ARE SCHEDULED TO CANVASS ON TUESDAY, MAY 16TH, IN ORDER ANY RUNOFF ELECTION SHOULD SUCH BE NEEDED.

THE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS THAT WERE KIND OF BASED ON INPUT RECEIVED AT THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSION ARE LISTED HERE.

AND OF COURSE THEY ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON THE OTHER PARTICIPATING ENTITIES UNDER THE CONTRACT WITH DENTON COUNTY, AND THOSE WILL BE DETERMINED AT A LATER DATE.

THESE ARE THE ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS THAT WERE DETERMINED DURING DISCUSSIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR THE PRECINCTS.

DENTON COUNTY WILL ASSIGN THE PRECINCTS ONES.

ALL THE PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS AND THEIR SELECTED LOCATIONS ARE DETERMINED.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

AND LET ME QUIT, SHERRI.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. ROSA.

MEAN, DIDN'T WE DISCUSS THE WEALTH CENTER AND SOME OTHER PLACES FOR D THREE OR WHAT'S WHAT? I'M MIS NAMING IT. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE THE CENTER JUST SOUTH OF T CAMPUS.

WELL, THANK YOU.

WELL, I KNOW THAT WE YOU FOUR DISTRICT TWO, FOUR, THREE, FOUR, THREE.

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ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR A CITY LOCATION OR SOMETHING.

JUST, YOU KNOW, DISC IS CONVENIENT TO CERTAIN AREAS.

NORTH BRANCH OR NORTH LAKES REC IS CONVENIENT TO OTHERS.

BUT I WAS JUST SORT OF I KNOW THE DISCUSSION HAD BEEN MADE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOUR, THREE.

WE BROUGHT UP THIS IDEA OF THE WESLEY CENTER AND FOR FOUR TWO WE BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF OF LOOKING AT THE LDS CHURCH AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

WELL, I DID NOT GET WE DID DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF USING THE WESLEY CENTER, BUT THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT THAT WAS A DESIRED LOCATION.

I KNOW I HEARD FROM MAYOR FROM I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, THAT HE DID WANT THE TWO RECREATION CENTERS.

SO WE DID VERIFY THAT THOSE WERE AVAILABLE.

HOWEVER, THAT LOCATION IS AVAILABLE SHOULD.

SHOULD SHOULD WE NEED IT? I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD IT.

IT WILL, OF COURSE, BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.

BUT YES, WE COULD ADD IT IF THE COUNCIL DESIRES.

NO, I JUST SORT OF I WANTED TO I GUESS IT SORT OF FELT LIKE WE HAD WE HAD HAD MAYBE I'M WRONG.

I'LL ROLL BACK THE TAPE AND LOOK AT IT.

BUT I THOUGHT WE'D HAD CONSENSUS ABOUT LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL CENTERS TO MAKE VOTING EASIER.

BUT THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T A HILL I PARTICULARLY WANT TO DIE ON.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? THE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOTION BY MAYOR HUDSPETH, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WATTS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

I CAN'T TELL WHAT COUNCILMAN DAVIS COMES FROM.

BYRD. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

I. MAYOR PRO TEM I PASS THE SIX ZERO.

THANK YOU. TAKES US TO ITEM B.

[B. Receive the certification from the City Secretary regarding the petition for the recall of District 3 Council Member Jesse Davis.]

RECEIVE CERTIFICATION FROM THE CITY SECRETARY REGARDING THE PETITION FOR THE RECALL OF DISTRICT THREE, COUNCILMEMBER JESSIE DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AGAIN. ROSARIO IS YOUR CITY SECRETARY, AND I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN.

SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE CERTIFICATION OF A RECALL PETITION FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN DISTRICT THREE.

ON JANUARY 22, REPRESENTATIVES REPRESENTED A COMMITTEE OF ELECTORS HAND-DELIVERED TO MY OFFICE.

THE PETITION. THE PETITION WAS REVIEWED FOR SUFFICIENCY IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CHARTER PROVISIONS, AND THE CHARTER DOES REQUIRE THAT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS AFTER FILING, THE CITY SECRETARY DETERMINED THAT EACH PETITION CONTAIN THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF FIVE ELECTORS, CIRCULATED THE PETITION THAT EACH PETITION HAD THE REQUIRED AFFIDAVIT OF THE CIRCULATOR, AS WELL AS THAT IT WAS SIGNED BY A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF QUALIFIED VOTERS.

THE PETITION WAS DETERMINED SUFFICIENT ON JANUARY 25, AGAIN WITHIN THAT SEVEN DAY PERIOD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED UNDER THE CITY CHARTER PROVISIONS, A COUNCIL MEMBER WAS PROVIDED THE OPTION TO RESIGN WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OR CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ORDER A RECALL ELECTION.

NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND NO RESIGNATION WAS RECEIVED AS OF THE FEBRUARY ONE DEADLINE.

SO THEREFORE, BECAUSE THE RESIGNATION WAS RECEIVED AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING, WHICH IS TODAY, THE CITY SECRETARY IS REQUIRED TO FORMALLY CERTIFY THE SUFFICIENCY AND SUBMIT THE PETITION TO CITY COUNCIL.

NOTICE NO ACTION IS REQUIRED ON THE CERTIFICATION AT THIS TIME.

AND THE NEXT STEP, HOWEVER, IS WITH NO RESIGNATION.

CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO ORDER A SPECIAL ELECTION.

YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE, OF COURSE, THE NEXT UNIFORM ELECTION DATE IS MAY SIX.

AND THE ORDER OF THE RECALL IS SCHEDULED AS THE NEXT ACTION ITEM.

AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY. DID YOU SAY THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED OR NOT ON THE CERTIFICATION? GOT IT. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE OK.

THANK YOU. AND THAT TAKES US.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THERE.

YES. PERFECT.

ITEM C, ID TWO, THREE, THREE, TWO.

[C. Consider adoption of an ordinance ordering a recall election to be held in the City of Denton on May 6, 2023 for the purpose of determining whether City Council Member Jesse Davis shall be removed from District 3 seat of the City Council by recall; prescribing the time, manner, and conduct of the election in accordance with an Election Agreement and Contract for election services with the Election Administrator of Denton County; and providing an effective date.]

AGAIN, ROSARIO'S CITY SECRETARY.

AND I'M SURE I SHARED MY SCREEN.

SO THIS ITEM IS INVOLVING A RECALL ELECTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND DISTRICT THREE.

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I'M SORRY. HOLD ON.

OR THE WRONG ONE.

EXCUSE ME.

OKAY. ACTUALLY, IT WAS THE RIGHT ONE.

SO MY APOLOGIES.

MAKE SURE THAT I. I'M SHARING MY SCREEN.

SO AGAIN, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, MY OFFICE RECEIVED A PETITION ON JANUARY 20/20.

I DIDN'T. THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHAT RYAN SAYS BACK HERE.

HE HELPS ME ALL THE TIME.

THE PETITION WAS DETERMINED TO BE SUFFICIENT.

ON JANUARY 25TH, THE RESIGNATION WAS RECEIVED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER BY THE FEBRUARY ONE DEADLINE, AND IT WAS CERTIFIED TO YOU JUST EARLIER.

THE NEXT STEPS FOR CITY CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER A RECALL ELECTION UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE.

THAT DATE WOULD BE MAY SIX, 2023.

AND OF COURSE, THE DEADLINE TO ORDER A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE MAY SIX UNIFORM ELECTION DATE IS FEBRUARY 17, 2023.

AS WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THAT WE WOULD ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH DENTON COUNTY.

THERE IS NO COST AT THIS TIME UNTIL THE CONTRACT IS PRESENTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD WOULD BE THE SAME AS FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

AND OF COURSE, AGAIN, WE WOULD CANVASS THE RESULTS ON TUESDAY, MAY 16TH.

THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD WOULD BE THE SAME AS EARLIER PRESENTED.

AND OF COURSE THE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS ARE THE SAME WITH THE FINAL LOCATIONS DETERMINED BY DENTON COUNTY BASED ON THE CONTRACT WITH OTHER ENTITIES AND THEIR SELECTED LOCATIONS.

THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE FOR ON LOCATIONS FOR ELECTION DAY WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD USE THESE TO IDENTIFIED ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF OTHER PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS, THERE ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE OTHER SHARED LOCATIONS WITH THOSE ENTITIES.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER LOCATIONS THAT YOU MIGHT MAYBE WANT US TO CONSIDER, WE CAN CERTAINLY RESEARCH THOSE AND GET WITH DENTON COUNTY, AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

COUNCILMAN DAVIS. THANK YOU.

MARY, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR ROSA AND THEN A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.

YOU MENTIONED TO ME ONCE BEFORE THAT THERE WAS A A SMALL I GUESS I'LL CALL IT A IRREGULARITY WITH THE PETITION, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT DID NOT AFFECT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY COUNTING FOR.

DO YOU RECALL WHAT THAT WAS? SO THE CITY CHARTER HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MET.

YES. AND IF PEOPLE KIND OF GO ABOVE AND BEYOND OR DO EXTRA THINGS ON THEIR PETITION, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF A OF NO EFFECT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT. YES, SIR.

YOU HAD ASKED TO REVIEW THE PETITION.

SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THE PETITIONS THAT DID NOT HAVE THE NOTARY SEAL.

AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WE LOOK AT.

AND AS FAR AS FOR THE SUFFICIENCY UNDER THE CHARTER PROVISIONS, SO I WOULD NOT BE ANYTHING THAT MY OFFICE WOULD DISQUALIFY THE SIGNATURE PAGES FOR IT FOR VALID SIGNATURES.

AND THEN MY QUESTION FOR LEGAL IS THE SAME QUESTION THAT THAT I ANSWERED MANY TIMES IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS FOR FOLKS.

BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE RECORD KIND OF WHAT THE EFFECT OF A RECALL ON THE SAME BALLOT AS A POTENTIAL RE ELECTION OR NON REELECTION IS OR LACK THEREOF? YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO.

ADMITTEDLY, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING FOR THE VOTERS BECAUSE THERE WILL BE CANDIDATE DAVIS AS A CANDIDATE FOR DISTRICT THREE FOR THE NEXT TERM, AS WELL AS A RECALL FOR THIS TERM. IF COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS IS SUCCESSFUL IN WINNING HIS REELECTION CAMPAIGN, THE PETITION AND THE RECALL WILL HAVE NO EFFECT. THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CHARTER, WHICH SAYS IF THERE'S A PENDING PETITION AND THAT COUNCILMEMBER IS ALSO UP FOR REELECTION AND GETS REELECTED, IT VOIDS THE PETITION AND EFFECTIVELY THE RESULTS OF THE RECALL ELECTION.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT IF THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS DID WIN HIS REELECTION, BUT ALSO WAS RECALLED AT THE SAME ELECTION.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. AND IS THERE ACTION FOR THIS ONE? SORRY. PERFECT.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

BUT BEFORE THAT, COUNCILOR MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST A VERY QUICK QUESTION.

BEING THAT WE ARE DOING THIS ON A REGULARLY ON THE UNIFORM ELECTION DAY, IS THERE ANY GOING TO BE ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY FOR THIS? THERE REALLY WON'T BE. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVERTISING SPACE ON OUR NOTICE OF ELECTION, WHICH WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUBLISH.

BUT BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING THE GENERAL ELECTION AND WE'RE ALREADY USING ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION AND YOU KNOW,

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IT WOULD NOT BE AS GREAT AS SOME PEOPLE.

MINIMAL COST. OKAY.

THANK YOU, ROSA. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM I MOVE APPROVAL.

COUNCILMAN BURT. SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.

PRO TEM. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BYRD DISCUSSION.

WHAT PUSHED COUNCILMAN DAVIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST HAVE KIND OF A BRIEF STATEMENT.

I FIRST WANT TO THANK MY FRIENDS IN DISTRICT THREE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR ON THE BALLOT TWICE.

I THINK ANY POLITICIAN WOULD SALIVATE AT THE CHANCE.

AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THE SAME THING THAT WE KIND OF WENT OVER THIS LAST FALL.

YOU KNOW, THE VOTERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CIRCULATE THESE PETITIONS.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITY UNDER THE CHARTER TO CALL SOMEONE WHO THEY VOTED FOR TO ACCOUNT.

BUT THE PETITION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TRUE.

THERE'S NO INDEPENDENT FACT CHECKING.

THERE'S NO INVESTIGATION.

THERE'S NOBODY DOUBLE CHECKING.

THERE'S ROSA DOING HER GOOD WORK AND HER STAFF DOING THEIR GOOD WORK TO CHECK THE SIGNATURES.

BUT NOTHING IN THE PETITION HAS TO BE FACTUALLY ACCURATE.

AND IN FACT, THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THIS PETITION THAT AREN'T FACTUALLY ACCURATE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.

I ALSO TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THIS PETITION.

THERE ARE ONLY A FEW SURPRISES THERE, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE PETITION WHO, UPON REFLECTION, DIDN'T REALLY KNOW QUITE WHAT THEY WERE SIGNING WHEN THE PERSON CAME TO THEIR FRONT DOOR AND PUT SOMETHING IN THEIR FACE AND TOLD THEM WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY WERE SIGNING.

I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I REACHED OUT TO MS..

BREWER AND SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS WHO CIRCULATED THE PETITION.

THESE ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE NEVER BOTHERED TO CONTACT ME ABOUT ANY OF THESE ISSUES WHICH ARE SO EGREGIOUS.

AND OUR POLICY DIFFERENCES ARE SO GREAT THAT I HAVE TO BE RECALLED.

NEVER HEARD FROM ANYBODY, NEVER HEARD BACK FROM THEM.

AND THERE'S REALLY ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE AMONG THESE 200 ODD FOLKS WHO SIGNED THE PETITION WHO HAVE EVER CONTACTED ME AT ALL ABOUT THESE ISSUES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO, AGAIN, THAT'S ALL I'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE BEFORE WE DO, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE CHARTER REQUIRES US TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE CHARTER REQUIRED US TO DO IN THE FALL.

AND AGAIN, JUST POINT PEOPLE TO THE FACT THAT NONE OF THIS IS FACT CHECKED.

NONE OF IT HAS TO BE TRUE.

THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF SIGNATURES.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO REMIND US OF A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD A COUPLE ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND WORK SESSION.

THERE IS A WAY TO REMEDY THIS, AND IT IS THROUGH AMENDING THE CHARTER.

BUT WE CHOSE TO TAKE THE STEP AND NOT GIVE DIRECTION FOR A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AGAIN AND ENCOURAGE US TO DO SO AT THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY SO WE CAN REMEDY THESE TYPE OF THINGS.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS, MR. DAVIS. AND WITH THAT, I YIELD BACK.

OK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S. THANK YOU.

WELL, JUST TO TO TO RESPOND TO THAT COMMENT, I STILL THINK THE VOTERS CAN DECIDE WHETHER WHAT IS PLACED ON A PETITION OR NOT IS IS ACTIONABLE OR NOT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.

SO WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A NOTARY SEAL? WHAT? WHAT IS SOMEONE ATTESTING TO WHEN THEY ARE SIGNING THE RECALL PETITION PAGES? WHAT ARE THEY ATTESTING TO? FORGIVE ME ONE SECOND. I CAN PULL UP THE ACTUAL CHARTER PROVISION, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S REFERENCING THE PETITIONERS THAT HAVE CIRCULATED THE PETITION.

THEY'RE ATTESTING THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY SIGNED WERE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT SIGNED, AND THE NOTARY IS ONLY ATTESTING TO THAT PETITIONERS AFFIRMATION THAT THOSE SIGNATURES WERE CORRECT.

OKAY. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE NOTARY SEAL.

THAT WAS I THINK WAS IT ABSENT ON A COUPLE OF THE PAGES OR DEFECTIVE OR WHAT? AND I MAY DEFER TO ROSS ON THIS.

I BELIEVE THEY WERE NOT LOCATED ON THREE OF THE PAGES.

THERE WAS NO NOTARY.

YES, SIR. AND ACTUALLY LET ME CORRECT THAT FOR THE RECORD.

SO THE SEAL WAS ACTUALLY ON THE PETITION.

THERE WERE JUST TWO PAGES THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT.

THE DATE THAT THE THE NOTARY ATTESTED TO THE SIGNATURE OF THE CIRCULATOR.

SO IT WAS ACTUALLY NOT THE NOTARY SEAL.

MY APOLOGIES ON THAT.

IT WAS JUST THAT THE DATE.

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IT WAS NOTARIZED.

IT'S JUST THE DATE THAT IT WAS NOTARIZED WAS NOT PRESENT ON THE PAGES.

ON THE PAGE. TWO PAGES.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IF MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF THE NOTARY SEAL WAS NOT THERE, THEN THEREFORE THOSE PAGES WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR GAME OR NOT? OH, I CAN'T.

I CAN'T. I CAN'T HEAR.

I'M SORRY. LIKE I EXPLAIN WITH ME.

YES. THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE NOTARY SIGNATURE ON THE PAGES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO SEE IT WAS ABSENT.

THE SIGNATURE WASN'T THERE? THEN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN DISQUALIFIED.

THOSE SIGNATURES WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN COUNTED.

CORRECT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OK IS THIS? YOU. ARE YOU LOOKING TO SPEAK AGAIN OR.

NO? OH, NO.

OK GOT IT. OK ANY OTHER.

ANY OTHER ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BIRD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM. I SEE YOU, GUY.

COUNCILMAN BYRD. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

HI. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

COUNCILMAN WHAT? ALL RIGHT. MAYOR HUDSPETH AS WELL.

PASSES SIX ZERO.

TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS.

[7. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

AND I APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THANKING ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND CITY STAFF AND ALL THOSE THAT THAT HAVE REALLY PERFORMED EXEMPLARY DURING THE LAST WEEK WHEN WE HAD THE ICE STORM.

AND AND I JUST WAS REMINDED OF AS I AS I WAS OUT AND ABOUT SEEING THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, THE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE FIREFIGHTERS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO BE OUT THERE.

I MEAN, WE CAN STAY HOME AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, STAY OUT OF HARM'S WAY.

BUT WE HEARD SO MANY STORIES IN THE REGIONAL AREA OF PEOPLE WHO WERE INJURED BECAUSE OF THIS AND THEY WERE SERVING THE PUBLIC.

SO I JUST WANT TO AGAIN REITERATE YOUR SHOUT OUT TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED AND EVERYONE THAT PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO REALLY BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND HELP THOSE IN NEED.

THAT IS WHAT I'VE LEARNED AND KNOWN ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND I JUST SEE IT ANOTHER EXAMPLE DURING THIS LAST WEEK.

SO SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS WEEK, LAST NIGHT, A NEW CLASS OF CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY STARTED.

SO I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF THAT PROGRAM.

SO THANK YOU TO THOSE FOLKS WHO SIGNED UP FOR POLICE ACADEMY.

NO, YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN A TON.

AND FINALLY.

SINCE WE'VE LAST MET, WE'VE SEEN THE AWFUL VIDEO THAT CAME OUT OF THE SITUATION IN MEMPHIS WITH MR. NICHOLS. I MUST SAY I FELT A LOT OF EMOTIONS THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

MANY FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME.

AND I WILL SAY PUBLICLY WHAT I HAVE SAID PRIVATELY.

I HAVE NOT SEEN THE FILM, THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE.

AS A PERSONAL PRACTICE, I DON'T WATCH SNUFF FILMS ANYMORE.

I HAVEN'T WATCHED THEM SINCE WALTER SCOTT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WORDS OF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FRANK DIXON.

YOU PUT UP AN AMAZING POST THAT GAVE ME A TON OF COMFORT IN A TIME WHERE I FELT A LOT OF EMOTIONS.

SO I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.

IT WAS THE EXACT TONE AND TENOR THAT I THINK NEEDED TO BE STRUCK AT THE RIGHT TIME.

SO JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS ON THAT SITUATION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN BURT, I WANT TO JUST BE REMINDED THAT IT IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND CELEBRATIONS THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, BUT I ALSO WANT TO CONNECT THAT WITH THIS TIME OF SEASON THAT WE HAVE HERE IN DENTON.

AND I CALL IT THE SEASON OF QUAKERTOWN.

AND SO THIS CITY HAS A VERY RICH HISTORY INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY OF QUAKERTOWN.

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO SIT WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE SOUTHEAST NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S, OF COURSE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS, THAT'S A COMMUNITY WHERE A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THIS QUAKERTOWN COMMUNITY WAS MOVED TO BACK IN IN THE EARLY TWENTIES.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL THAT'S COMING UP, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO IN MEMORIALIZING THE QUAKER

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BUT RIGHT NOW LEADING INTO THAT MEMORIAL CELEBRATION, THE CITY, ALONG WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE SOUTHEASTERN NEIGHBORHOOD IN EVERY ORGANIZATION IN THIS TOWN THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS THIS TASK, IT'S A I'M THINKING OF IT AS A MONSTROSITY.

IT'S A BIG TASK FOR US TO TELL THIS STORY THAT'S HERE.

BUT IT HASN'T BEEN TOLD IN A COLLECTIVE WAY.

AND FOR US TO REALLY CELEBRATE THE PERSONAL PERSEVERANCE OF THE PEOPLE.

SO WE SPOKE WITH OMAR SADIK.

HE'S HEADING UP THIS.

OMAR WORKS FOR THE CITY.

HE'S HEADING UP THIS PROJECT FOR US.

WE HAD A GREAT MEETING TODAY.

OUR FIRST MEETING, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING EVERYTHING IN PLACE FOR US TO START TO START THE CELEBRATIONS.

SO HE TALKS ABOUT THINGS THAT THAT CAN OCCUR MONTHLY.

WE HAVE A CALENDAR THAT IS BEING SET UP FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND DO A LOT OF CELEBRATIONS, MUSICALS, POETRY, SINGING, GETTING CHURCHES TOGETHER.

BUT WE WANT TO DO IT AS A COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE JUST A BLACK THING.

THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE SOUTHEAST DIDN'T BECAUSE THEY HEAR THE STORY.

THEY KNOW THE STORY. BUT THIS STORY HAS GOT TO BE TOLD IN A WAY THAT EVERYONE IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

EVERYONE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN IT AND JUST BE A PART OF THE THREAD THAT NEEDS TO BE TOLD.

SO SOME THINGS ARE ALREADY SET IN PLACE, SOME DATES ARE ALREADY SET IN PLACE, BUT WE NEED TO GET ALL OF THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ROTARY CLUBS PARTICIPATING IN THIS OR ANY ORGANIZATION, ANYBODY, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PARTICIPATE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DEPEND ON ALL MORE, OMAR, TO GUIDE US THIS YEAR, TO GET THROUGH THIS YEAR.

AND THEN IT'S GOING TO CULMINATE WITH SOMETHING VERY BIG, SOMETHING DESTINATION DESTINATION WORTHY FOR THIS THIS COMMUNITY.

IT'S TIME. IT'S BEEN OVER 100, 100 YEARS, CELEBRATING 100 YEARS.

AND I KNOW THAT THE NEWTON ROTARY CLUB, FOR SURE, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START THEIR CONVERSATIONS ON IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SOME PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TALK WITH THE NEW ROTARY CLUB MEMBERS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN BE A PART OF THIS CELEBRATION.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I'M GOING TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK MAYBE EVERY TIME I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE DAY OR SO, I'LL GIVE THOSE DATES OUT.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ONLINE, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME MAILERS, AND WE JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO START CELEBRATING PERSEVERANCE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO, THOUGH.

WOE IS ME.

IT'S IT'S TIME TO SAY, HEY, WE GOT THROUGH THAT.

LET'S LET'S CELEBRATE HOW HOW WE'RE STILL STANDING TODAY.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR LETTING ME HAVE THAT LITTLE EXTENDED TIME.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THINKING ABOUT PARTICIPATING.

BUT I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SHAKING HANDS.

THE FOLKS THAT ARE REALLY WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

JUST SOME REAL QUICK.

JUST SOME SOME DATES.

FIRST, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T START OFF WITH SO YESTERDAY WAS MY FATHER IN LAW'S BIRTHDAY.

SO THAT'S ROBERT CASTRO.

AND SO HE'S HE'S AWESOME TO THE KIDDOS AND I AND SO I WANT TO WISH HIM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN.

THEN THERE'S SOME NEAT FAMILY THINGS THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ARE DOING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT.

THERE'S THE FAMILY DANCE ON THE 10TH.

THEN THERE'S THE ADAPTED RECREATION SWEETHEART DANCE, AND THAT'S FOR THOSE THAT HAVE DISABILITIES ON THE 11TH. AND SO THAT'S.

IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY NEAT. I'M GOING TO TRY TO POP IN THERE AND SEE THAT.

AND THEN PARENTS NIGHT OUT, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE KIDS ROCK THING THAT'S BACK.

SO THAT'S FROM 7 TO 11.

THERE'S DIFFERENT DATES. YOU CAN GO ON THE PARKS WEBSITE AND IF YOU HAVE KIDS FROM 5 TO 11, IT'S LIKE $25.

THEY'LL WATCH YOUR KIDS HAVE DATE NIGHT, GO SPEND MONEY, CONTRIBUTE TO OUR SALES TAX BASE.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY NEAT FOR THEM TO BRING THAT BACK.

I SURE APPRECIATE IT.

AND THEN AMERICAN LEGION HALL IS HAVING A VALENTINE'S EVENT THAT'S ON THE 14TH AND THAT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN DO THAT. AND THEN OUR DAILY BREAD IS HAVING A COMEDY AND COMMUNITY DINNER THAT'S THE 11TH THIS SATURDAY 630 AND SAME NIGHT ON THAT THAT DATE THERE'S ON THAT DATE THERE'S OH, FIRST REFUGE AND RANCH HAND RESCUE HAS AN EVENT THAT'S THAT'S AT 10:00 AT THAT'S AT THE MARRIOTT THERE AT TEXAS MOTOR SPEEDWAY.

SO THAT'LL BE A GOOD EVENT.

THAT'S IT'S A HIGH TEA FASHION BUT TWO GREAT GROUPS, FIRST REFUGE AND RANCH HAND AND RESCUE.

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THEN I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO GARY WHALEN OF DENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR HE WON.

HE'S ON THE AMPUTEE BOBSLED TEAM AND HE WAS ON AMERICAN NINJA WARRIOR.

IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT, HE HAD A GREAT VIEWING SESSION THERE AT THE AT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING THAT'S ONLINE SOMEWHERE.

IF YOU SEE IT, HE'S HE'S AN AMAZING ATHLETE, GREAT FAMILY GUY AND I APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE IN HIS THE ENTIRE DENTON FIRE FIGHTER FAMILY.

SO I THINK THAT IS OH AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WATCHING TO GO BACK AND HE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO DO THIS, BUT SO COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS BACK IN 2021, STAFF COMES TO HIM AND SAYS, HEY, YOU'RE UNOPPOSED.

JUST YOU CAN TAKE THE SAME VOTE TOTAL FROM BEFORE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN.

AND HE RAN ANYWAY AND THAT LOWERED THE THRESHOLD.

AND THAT LEADS US TO TODAY.

BUT EITHER WAY, I JUST WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE.

WHEN FACED WITH AN OPTION TO RUN WITH THE VOTES HE HAD FROM THE LAST TIME HE RAN UNOPPOSED, HE SAID, NO, I'M GOING TO CAMPAIGN LIKE I CAMPAIGN BEFORE.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP ARE GOING TO SHOW UP.

AND SO THAT THAT TAKES THAT TAKES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY, BUT THAT TAKES A LEVEL OF FOCUS AND A LEVEL OF COMMITMENT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

IT'S NEVER A BAD THING TO DO, NEVER A BAD TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND HE SAW THAT AS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

MAYBE IT'S THE BOY SCOUTS AND HIM AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT WAS VERY ADMIRABLE.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE SPEAKER SPEAKING OF ROTARY SPEAKER THIS WEEK, ISN'T THAT OUR FAMOUS.

YEAH, OUR FAMOUS CITY MANAGER SPEAKING AT NOON ROTARY THIS WEEK.

SO I'LL BE THERE TO SUPPORT HER AND HEAR ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

SO 841 WILL CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S MEETING.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.