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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

[WORK SESSION]

TODAY IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17TH, 2023.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

IT'S 3 P.M., SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

WE DO NOT HAVE.

FIRST THING WOULD BE CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY. I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON CONSENT.

ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION.

OH, YES. AND JUST FOR THOSE TRACKING ALONG, AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE THIS EVENING THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS WE ONLY HAD ONE ITEM A ON THE PUBLIC HEARING, HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

SO THAT ITEM.

PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM S TO 3-0002A HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

SO WE'LL GO STRAIGHT INTO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.

BUT BACK TO OUR AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE THIS EVENING JUST IN CASE THAT TAKES US TO.

OUR FIRST WORK SESSION, WHICH IS ITEM A.

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Facilities Master Plan.]

RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD DISCUSSION.

GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

AND THAT'S ID 231544.

HI. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS TOM KRAMER, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND FLEET.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GO THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN HERE.

OUR BACKGROUND, THE CITY OF DENTON OWNS A TOTAL OF 206 BUILDINGS, 136 STORAGE AND SUPPORTING, AND 70 ADMINISTRATIVE WITH NO UNIFORMED OCCUPANCY STANDARDS. THE CITY IDENTIFIED A NEED TO ANALYZE CURRENT SPACE UTILIZATION OF THE CITY ASSETS COMPARED TO FUTURE OPERATIONAL NEEDS.

IN MARCH 2020, FACILITIES MANAGEMENT CONTRACTED KAIKO ARCHITECTURE TO CONDUCT A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

JUNE OF THIS YEAR, FACILITIES MASTER PLAN WAS CONDUCTED AND COMPLETED, AND FROM JUNE TO NOW WE'VE BEEN ANALYZING THE RESULTS AND COMPILING THIS REPORT.

OUR PURPOSE WAS TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OF FUTURE RENOVATIONS OR NEW CONSTRUCTION OF CITY FACILITIES, AND PROVIDE A GAP ANALYSIS TO DEFINE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS AND NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS AT CITY FACILITIES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR OBJECTIVES.

CONSOLIDATION OF FACILITIES, STAFFING AND BUILDING CONDITION DATA INTO ONE STRATEGY OUR FUTURE STRATEGY WITH PROJECTED FUTURE SERVICE GROWTH AND APPROPRIATE FACILITIES REQUIREMENTS THROUGH 20 2040.

OUR EFFICIENCY, THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR NEW AND OR RENOVATED SPACES TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION WITHIN CURRENT CITY ASSET FOOTPRINTS.

AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON DEPARTMENT ADJACENCIES AND ASSET ACQUISITIONS FOR THE FACILITIES.

HERE WE HAVE OUR GAP ANALYSIS, AND YOU'LL SEE OUR CURRENT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR OUR 70 OCCUPIED ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES IS 446,789. AND WE ARE USING ALL OF THAT SPACE CURRENTLY.

OUR SOLUTION TO GAIN IMMEDIATE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO SOLVE THE GAP IS TO RENOVATE CITY HALL EAST WITH OUR NEW OCCUPANCY STANDARDS, AND THIS WOULD BE MOVING TECH SERVICES TO WHERE AIR IS AND AIR MOVING TO THE SECOND FLOOR THROUGH RENOVATIONS.

THIS WILL OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS FOR STAFF GROWTH IN THOSE TWO AREAS IN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

WE ARE GOING TO NEED AN ADDITIONAL 41,000FT².

WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE THE SERVICE CENTER AND WITH THAT, PROVIDE OUR NEW OCCUPANCY STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THE SPACE EFFICIENTLY.

OUR WEST SIDE SERVICE CENTER CONSTRUCTION, WITH AN ADDITIONAL 20,000FT² OF OPERATING SPACE, AND A MUNICIPAL COMPLEX WITH 35,000FT² AT THE END OF THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IS REQUIRED OR SHOULD BE REQUIRED THAT WE DO A AN ADDITIONAL FACILITIES ASSESSMENT AS THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF THE CITY CHANGES.

SO WE CANNOT ASSUME THAT THE PLAN TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE PLAN IN FIVE YEARS.

SO WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS ASSESSMENT EVERY FIVE YEARS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ON TRACK.

FROM THE MASTER PLAN AND THE GAP ANALYSIS, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE HAVE WILL GET US SLIGHTLY PAST THE FIVE YEAR MARK, AND THEN WE'LL REQUIRE FUTURE PLANNING FROM THAT ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE HOW WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE THE GAP IN THE FUTURE.

HOWEVER, TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT SPACE DIFFERENCE ON THE GAP IS THAT AS BUILDINGS REACH THEIR END OF USEFUL LIFE CYCLE, AS MOST BUILDINGS DO, AND IT REQUIRES RENOVATION, WE WOULD RENOVATE THAT SPACE WITH OUR NEW OCCUPANCY STANDARDS AND HELP SOLVE SOME OF THAT GAP WITHOUT NEEDING TO BUILD NEW, NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ACQUIRE NEW ASSETS.

WE'RE MOVING TO OFFICE STANDARDS.

WE WANT TO CALL THEM OCCUPANCY STANDARDS, AND THEY WERE BASED ON THE CURRENT INDUSTRY TRENDS AND STANDARDS GENERAL SERVICE ADMINISTRATION HAS SET.

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AND THEN WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF DENTON.

IN OUR NEW OFFICE STANDARDS, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING NATURAL LIGHT KITCHEN ACCESS, LACTATION ROOMS, MOBILITY, COMFORT, EFFICIENCY, DECOMPRESSION ROOMS, INCLUSIVE RESTROOMS, ERGONOMIC FURNITURE, AND HEIGHT ADJUSTABLE WORKSPACES.

FROM THE MASTER PLAN, WE HAD A SUITABILITY INDEX.

SO WHILE YOU'LL SEE A BUILDING MAY BE IN GOOD CONDITION, ITS SUITABILITY FOR THE OPERATION AND THERE MAY NOT BE.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED 31 OF THOSE BUILDINGS OF THE 70IN THE SUITABILITY INDEX.

TWO OF THEM FELL UNDER AN ACCEPTABLE RATE FOR OPERATIONS, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SERVICE CENTER AND THE TRAFFIC CONTROL BUILDING.

THESE TWO BUILDINGS WOULD BE SOLVED DURING THE SERVICE CENTER RENOVATION, AND THEN ALL OF OUR BUILDING SUITABILITY WOULD BE ABOVE AN ACCEPTABLE RATE.

OUR SOLUTION AND IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, WE'VE LISTED IN FOUR PRIORITIES.

NUMBER ONE IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING.

WE'RE RENOVATING CITY HALL EAST FOR TECH SERVICES AND HUMAN RESOURCES.

AND AGAIN THIS WILL PROVIDE US 20 YEAR GROWTH IN EACH SPACE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.

PRIORITY TWO IS WE'RE GOING TO BE RENOVATING THE SERVICE CENTER.

THE NEW BUILD AND DEPARTMENT SYNERGIES AND SPACE STANDARDS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

THAT'S 24 TO 36 MONTHS OUT.

VERY TENTATIVE. AND PRIORITY THREE IS A CITY HALL.

WE WANT TO NOTE HERE THAT ANY ADDITIONAL FTE REQUIRES CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO INCREASE OCCUPANCY IN THIS BUILDING, AS WE'RE ALREADY OVER THE OCCUPANCY RATE.

THAT IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED.

HOWEVER, WE DID NOTE HERE THAT PRIOR COUNCIL ACTION ALLOCATED $100,000 FOR DESIGN AND RENDERINGS OF A NEW MUNICIPAL COMPLEX TO SEE IF THAT'S SUITABLE FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THEN PRIORITY FOUR IS OUR WEST SIDE SERVICE CENTER.

IT'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE BUILD, AND DEPENDING ON THE GROWTH RATE OUT THERE IS WHEN WE WOULD BUILD THIS BUILDING AND THIS WILL HOUSE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SERVICE THE EXPANSION ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY.

THIS IS OUR SOLUTION FOR DEPARTMENT ADJACENCIES TO ENSURE THAT OUR SUITABILITY IS APPROPRIATE FOR EACH BUILDING LOCATION.

YOU CAN SEE CITY HALL EAST HAS POLICE TECH SERVICES, CUSTOMER SERVICE, HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

THE SERVICE CENTER WILL MAINTAIN THE VERY SIMILAR ADJACENCIES WITH THE PARKS AND REC, WITH THE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT, STREETS AND TRAFFIC SUSTAINABILITY, WATER UTILITIES, WATER METERING.

WATER UTILITIES. LAB AND PUBLIC LAB.

WAREHOUSE AND PROCUREMENT.

TECH SERVICES AND FIBER AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WOULD NOT CHANGE.

BUT IT'S GOOD TO NOTE ON HERE THAT THE ADJACENCIES ARE APPROPRIATE SO NOBODY WOULD BE RELOCATING.

IN OUR PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, WE HAVE OUR SATELLITE SERVICE CENTER, WHICH WILL HOUSE A PARKS AND REC MAINTENANCE COMPONENT FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY.

A FLEET SERVICES TO SERVICE THE PARKS, VEHICLES AND THE TRANSFER STATION VEHICLES ON THE WEST SIDE.

THE WATER UTILITIES, LAB AND STREETS AND TRAFFIC WILL BE OUT OF THAT SERVICE CENTER.

WE'LL GO OVER TO THE DME CAMPUS, AND THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY HOLD MS OPERATION WITH UTILITY BUILDING, CUSTOMER SERVICE, DME SUPPORT AND UTILITY DISPATCH.

AND THEN IN OUR NEW MUNICIPAL COMPLEX IS WHERE WE GAIN OUR MOST EFFICIENCIES.

AND MOST OF OUR SYNERGIES IS WE WOULD BRING ALL THESE INTO ONE, ONE OFFICE SPACE OR ONE BUILDING.

IT WOULD BE FINANCE, PROCUREMENT, INTERNAL AUDIT, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY SECRETARY, THE CITY ATTORNEY, MARKETING, COMMUNICATIONS, STRATEGIC SERVICES AND HUMAN RESOURCES ALL UNDER ONE ROOF. OUR NEXT STEPS IS IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR OCCUPANCY STANDARDS ON ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATIONS.

SPACE, PLANNING SOFTWARE FOR PROGRAMING AND SPACE UTILIZATION, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND PEOPLE FOCUSED AMENITIES.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

COUNCILOR MELTZER.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE CLARITY AND THE ANALYTICAL PROCESS THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T THINK OF THIS SET OF QUESTIONS BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT THERE'S A BOND PROPOSITION TO BUILD A NEW SENIOR CENTER.

IF THAT WERE TO PASS, WHAT IS THE INTENTION FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE EXISTING SENIOR CENTER? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET DOES THAT COMPRISE AND COULD THAT CONTRIBUTE TOWARD, YOU KNOW, A COMPLEX MUNICIPAL COMPLEX? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. SO THE SENIOR CENTER, LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER FACILITIES HERE, IS A BUILT TO PURPOSE BUILDING.

SO IT WOULD REQUIRE PLANNING FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE GOING TO RE UTILIZE THAT FOR EITHER OVERFLOW AT THE SENIOR CENTER OR ANOTHER ASPECT OF THEIR OPERATION. AS FOR OFFICE SPACE, BECAUSE IT'S BUILT A PURPOSE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING TO RENOVATE THAT SPACE FOR OFFICE USE.

SO IT REALLY JUST BE BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST USE IS FOR THAT, AND IF PARKS HAS A NEED FOR IT IN THE FUTURE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAD A SIMILAR I HAD THE SENIOR CENTER QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

AND I HAVE A SIMILAR YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE REPORT YOU SAID IN THE BACKUP, YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE PERSONNEL OVERFLOWING IN THE CIVIC CENTER.

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AND OUR PRIOR DISCUSSION FOR CITY HALL WEST WAS SOME LEVEL OF PERSONNEL IN THERE AS WELL.

BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

SO SO THE CITY HALL WEST IS AGAIN A MULTIPURPOSE SPACE.

CURRENTLY IT IS UNINHABITABLE TO ANY PERSONNEL FROM THE FROM THE IT WAS BEFORE ME ERIE STORM ERIE.

YOU KNOW, YURI. SO IF THAT SPACE WERE TO BE BUILT OUT, IT WOULD BE BUILT OUT FROM OUR LAST PLAN, WHICH WAS THE.

WAS THAT THE. YEAH.

GO AHEAD. SO THE BACKUP ANSWER THAT TALKED ABOUT THE STAFFING THAT WOULD GO THERE, THEY'RE IN THE SAME LIKE TOM MENTIONED, A BUILT FOR PURPOSE BUILDING THERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER. SO IF THE BOND PROPOSITION PASSES, WE WOULD LOOK AT RELOCATING PARK STAFF OVER HERE WHO WOULD OPERATE THE PROGRAMING OF THE CITY HALL WEST BUILDING.

IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE WOULD LOOK AT RELOCATING SOME OF THAT STAFF AS PART OF THE NEW SERVICE CENTER BUILD.

BECAUSE WE HAVE PARKS ADMINISTRATION OVER.

AND THE SIMILAR ANSWER FOR THE CIVIC CENTER.

YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF ODD PERSONALITIES.

THAT ONE, I UNDERSTAND GOT THE SPECIAL EVENTS GROUP THAT WORKS OUT OF THERE, THE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM THAT OPERATES OUT OF THERE, AND THEN THE CIVIC CENTER STAFF WHO JUST RUNS THE DAY TO DAY MEMBERSHIPS, THE CEMETERY PROGRAM.

AND REGISTRATIONS.

OKAY. AND THOSE.

YEAH I UNDERSTAND, SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER WATTS? THANK YOU. MAYOR. ON THE BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT HERE BEFORE THE NEED FOR THE NEW SERVICE CENTER CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE OF VARIOUS ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT BUILDING.

I DON'T RECALL IN THAT DISCUSSION EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE OLD BUILDING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE NOW WE'RE GOING TO.

RENOVATE IT FOR ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO. THE SERVICE CENTER WOULD BE REBUILT.

OKAY. GO, GO. OKAY.

GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SERVICE CENTER AND THEN THE CURRENT SERVICE CENTER BUILDING.

YEAH. THE SERVICE CENTER IS GOING TO GET A NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW BUILDING.

CORRECT. BUT THE SERVICE CENTER NOW, THE CURRENT BUILDING NOW, I THOUGHT IN THE PRESENTATION IT WAS WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE IT.

IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I MISSED? NO RIGHT HERE, SIR, ON PRIORITY TO THE SERVICE CENTER.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW BUILD.

WE WILL BE RENOVATING CITY HALL EAST AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL FEES FOR CITY HALL? WE WILL REQUIRE RENOVATIONS.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE OLD SERVICE CENTER BILL? THE OLD SERVICE CENTER IS GOING TO BE TORE DOWN AND REBUILT IN THE TO THE CODES THAT WERE ISSUED FOR IT IN THE SAME PLACE.

OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SORRY.

MY MISTAKE. THANK YOU.

SORRY. OKAY.

ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN MCGEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS JUST A GENERAL QUESTION STATEMENT ISH.

SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE PROJECTING OUT FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN 20 YEARS.

BASED OFF OF THE JOINT MEETING WE HAD WITH DISD COUPLE COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

WE KNOW THAT POPULATION IS GOING TO DOUBLE IN THE CITY, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A SIMPLE COMPARISON AS WE'RE 1800 EMPLOYEES TODAY.

IN 25 YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE 3600 EMPLOYEES.

BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT.

WE KNOW THAT. NORTH TEXAS.

PROJECTIONS ARE EXPECTED TO GROW FOR THE NEXT 75 YEARS.

ARE WE ONLY PROJECTING TO 20 FOR FOR FINANCIAL REASONS? ANY REASONS. WE'RE NOT GOING BEYOND THAT.

YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THE QUESTION.

ABSOLUTELY. SO WE PROJECT 20 YEARS BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT AS AN ARM, RIGHT, THE CLOSER YOU, THE CLOSER YOU HOLD A WEIGHT TO YOUR BODY, THE STRONGER IT'S GOING TO BE.

THE FURTHER YOU HOLD IT OUT, THE WEAKER IT'S GOING TO BE.

SO TO TRY TO PROJECT STAFFING NEEDS UP TO 70 YEARS WOULD NOT BE THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IDEA.

WE'D RATHER HAVE MORE ACCURACY IMMEDIATELY WITH A MID-TERM PROJECTION WITH AN ASSUMPTION AT 70 YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHY EVERY FIVE YEARS WE GO BACK TO THE TABLE TO KEEP THAT DATA CLOSE AND REFRESHED, SO THAT WE KNOW IF OUR 20 YEAR IS TRENDING DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE DID OUR ASSESSMENT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

SO OFTENTIMES THIS THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE IN A LONG TIME.

IF YOU DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TREND THAT DATA TO MATCH THE GROWTH.

OKAY. AND I WASN'T NECESSARILY THINKING ABOUT STAFF.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT MORE SPATIALLY SPATIAL NEEDS.

YEAH. SO HAND IN HAND.

RIGHT. SO MORE STAFF MORE SPACE.

SPACE WISE, WE BUILD OUR SPACE STANDARDS OR OUR NEEDS OFF OF THE STAFFING LEVELS.

OKAY. KNOW, YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT MOVIE FIELD OF DREAMS. IF WE BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS THINKING, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD.

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OH. I KNOW HOW TO DO IT, BUT.

OKAY. SEE? THERE YOU GO.

HELLO, EVERYONE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE BACK.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN EACH OTHER'S COMPANY, SO I APPRECIATE LOOKING AT ALL THE SMILING FACES AND THE WARM HELLOS TODAY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

AND DRESSED UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO I'M GOING TO CHURCH.

I WAS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT BUILDING, THE ONE THAT'S OVER ON WOODROW.

YES. I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN HERE ANYWHERE.

OR IS THERE GOING TO IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT WITH THAT DOWN THE ROAD? IS THERE IS THAT CONNECTED TO ANY FUTURE TYPE OF UPDATES OR EXACTLY WHAT DO THEY DO IN THAT, IN THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT BUILDING? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR HEALING OFFICE OUT OF THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR TECHNICIANS ORIGINALLY START THEIR DAY AT.

THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 2014, I BELIEVE.

SO IT'S FAIRLY NEW.

OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING FOR FACILITIES, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

THERE'S A WAREHOUSE COMPONENT THERE THAT WE KEEP ALL OF OUR EXTRA SPACE FOR.

IF WE WERE TO MOVE IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD PROGRAM THAT BUILDING AS OFFICE SPACE OR OTHER MIXED COMPANY SPACE WITH FIELD TEAM AND OFFICE TEAM.

HOW WE HAVE IT CURRENTLY.

OKAY, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE THE WHERE YOU ALL STORE, ALL YOUR WAREHOUSE GOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S IT'S LITERALLY IN THAT, THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING.

YEAH. SO SOME, SOME ITEMS ARE STORED IN THAT BUILDING.

THE THINGS THAT THE TECHNICIANS USE DAILY, THEIR TOOLS, THEIR FAUCETS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IF IT'S BUILDING SPECIFIC, EACH BUILDING HAS AN AREA FOR ATTIC STOCK.

WHEN THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED, THOSE ITEMS ARE PLACED IN THAT CLOSET THAT WE CAN USE.

AND THEN OUR WAREHOUSE AT THE SERVICE CENTER HOUSES OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE LARGER, LIKE OUR AIR FILTERS AND SOME OF OUR NON COMMON PARTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WHAT? JUST CLEAR.

CLARIFICATION QUESTION ON SLIDE FOUR.

THAT'S WHERE I SORT OF GOT MY QUESTION FROM, BECAUSE I SEE SERVICE CENTER RENOVATION WITH OCCUPANCY STANDARDS.

THAT'S PART OF THE GAP.

AND THEN WEST SERVICE CENTER CONSTRUCTION.

SO BASED UPON WHAT THE CURRENT SERVICE CENTER THAT WE HAVE THAT'S BEING TORN DOWN AND REBUILT ON THE SAME LOCATION, WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS THAT THAT IS A SERVICE CENTER RENOVATION.

AND WE USE THE TERM RENOVATION BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE SOME STANDING STRUCTURE PRESENT WHEN WE REBUILD THE BUILDING.

SO PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING WILL BE NEW, BUT FOR SOME REQUIREMENTS, OTHER PORTIONS WILL BE STILL STANDING WHEN WE ADD TO IT OR RENOVATE IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN THE WEST SERVICE CENTER IS A TOTALLY NEW BUILDING SOMEWHERE WEST.

CORRECT. THAT'S THE SERVICE CENTER.

AND HAVE HAVE WE HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS NEW SERVICE CENTER? HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S BEING TORN OR RENOVATED.

SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BE STANDING, SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BE.

BUT THAT WEST SERVICE CENTER IS A NEW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S IT'S A FUTURE PLAN.

JUST AS THE CITY GROWS.

IT'S LIKE PUTTING A DOT ON A MAP.

GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE I GOT CONFUSED.

AND WHEN I SAW THE WORD RENOVATION, I THOUGHT, OKAY, SO PART OF IT WILL BE TORN DOWN.

PART OF IT WILL STILL BE MAINTAINED.

CORRECT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR MELTON, MAYOR PRO TEM.

YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO AS YOU DEVELOP OPTIONS FOR MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, WILL YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE.

ARCHITECTURAL HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE O'NEIL FORD EXISTING CITY HALL.

SO CAPITAL WILL BE RUNNING THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IT'D BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR THEM.

HAPPY TO GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU SHORTLY AFTER THIS, BUT I WOULD BELIEVE SO.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO. WHEN WE ARE RENOVATING IN PLACE, A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OUR SERVICES ARE OUT OF THE SERVICE CENTER.

DO WE HAVE FACILITIES CAPACITY TO RUN AT 120% OVERAGE IN OUR OTHER BUILDINGS WHILE WE'RE RENOVATING THE SERVICES CENTER? YES.

SO THERE'S THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE A LOT OF THE STAFF AND THE SERVICE CENTER ARE FIELD WORKERS THAT DON'T REQUIRE A LANDING SPACE IN THE MORNING.

A LOT OF THAT'S PARK STREETS TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE.

SO THERE'S OPERATIONAL PLANS TO STORE THEIR EQUIPMENT AND GIVE THEM ALTERNATIVE SPACE ELSEWHERE.

AND THERE'S ALSO CONVERSATIONS AS WHEN WE RENOVATE, DO WE PHASE IT IN.

SO SOME OF THE OCCUPANTS ARE NOT DISTURBED THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

AND THEN WHEN THAT CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, WE MOVE THEM OVER AND DO THE OTHER PORTION.

SO IT'S AN ONGOING PLAN WITH CAPITAL AND THEY HAVE THE THE GUIDANCE ON THAT.

AGAIN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET A MORE CLARIFIED ANSWER, I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH TREVOR TO GET THAT FOR YOU.

NO, I THINK THAT WAS SUFFICIENT FOR NOW.

I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER.

THANK YOU. GREAT. OKAY.

COUNCILMAN. BYRD. I'M JUST NOTICING THAT PICTURE OF COLLEGE STATION.

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CITY HALL ON YOUR.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THIS SOME TYPE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL INDOCTRINATION? IT IS OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN OUR CITY.

I JUST LIKE TO SEE A NICE CLEAN BUILDING WITH SOME FRESH GRASS.

IT LOOKS GOOD AND I THINK EVERYBODY CAN APPRECIATE THE STRUCTURE THERE.

YES, EVERYBODY IS APPRECIATING THE STRUCTURE.

I MENTIONED THIS AS A NICE I HAPPENED TO BE AT A&M MOVING MY KID IN THIS SUMMER, AND I HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY THIS BUILDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SITTING IN A PARK LIKE SETTING.

AND IT STRUCK ME AS A VERY BEAUTIFUL QUALITY BUILDING WITH NATURAL LIGHT AND ARCHES, WELL DESIGNED AND WELL ARCHITECTURE WISE, JUST REALLY WELL DONE. AND IT'S A THREE FLOOR, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE.

SO I JUST THOUGHT, OH, NICE.

AND SO TOM OF COURSE PUT IT IN THERE.

IT'S REALLY NICE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY NICE IF YOU WOULD KIND OF PUT DENTON, TEXAS CITY HALL ON THERE TO REALLY HELP OUR PSYCHE, OUR PSYCHE, ON SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENVISION VERY NICE FOR US.

WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT ON THE RENDERINGS.

OKAY. THAT'S GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN.

MCGEE. THANK YOU.

JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP. ARE WE SPATIALLY CURRENTLY? ARE WE THE HUNDRED AND 17% THAT I ASSUME THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE AIRPORT? THE HUNDRED AND 17% IS JUST FOR CITY HALL.

WE HAVE OCCUPANCY RATES FOR OTHER BUILDINGS.

SOME BUILDINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN OCCUPANCY, SOME ARE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE ADJACENCIES AND THE SUITABILITY, YOU CAN'T JUST ASSUME THAT BECAUSE ONE BUILDINGS MAY BE AT 85%, THAT YOU CAN JUST MOVE PEOPLE IN BECAUSE IT MAY BE A BUILT TO PURPOSE FACILITY.

DO WE KNOW WHAT GROWTH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OUT AT THE AIRPORT? IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN.

IT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED AS AN ISSUE THROUGH THEIR STAFFING PROJECTIONS PROVIDED BY THE AIRPORT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, SO WE BELIEVE THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE THERE FOR THEM TO EXPAND. STAFFING WISE.

DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY MORE LAND OPPORTUNITIES OUT BY THE AIRPORT, LIKE CITY OWNED LAND? I'M GONNA LET CHRISTINE ANSWER THAT OR RYAN.

RYAN WOULD KNOW. IT'S LIMITED, BUT I'LL LET THEM ANSWER THAT.

YEAH. THE GUN RANGE. YEAH.

THERE IS LAND BACK BEHIND THE AIRPORT.

SOLID WASTE. MADE A PURCHASE IN THE LAST YEAR FOR POTENTIAL LAND FOR THE TRANSFER STATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.

SO A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY IS WHAT WE WOULD BE UTILIZING TO BUILD THE WEST SIDE SERVICE CENTER.

AND THEN DID MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC OWNS A PORTION OF LAND OUT THERE TOO.

SO WE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THROUGH THE, THE THROUGH THE OUR NEEDS AND THE PLANNING WE HAVE, WE DON'T NEED TO ACQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL LAND AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. BUT ALL THE LAND THAT YOU HAVE, YOU DO HAVE A PLAN TO USE IT ALL.

CORRECT. OKAY. I WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE.

THANK YOU. IT KIND OF CAME TO MIND.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND WAS ASKING, BUT TOM IS ONE OF OUR NEWER EMPLOYEES.

HE'S BEEN HERE FOR SIX, SEVEN MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS, WELL EXPERIENCED IN FLEET AND FACILITIES AND HAS TURNED IT AROUND COMPLETELY LOOKING AT WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE, OFFICE SPACE STANDARDS, HAVING A FACILITY ASSESSMENT SO WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT CONDITION IT'S IN AND THEN WHAT WE NEED.

THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT CITIES FORGET TO DO SOMETIMES.

AND THEY'RE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY INAPPROPRIATELY.

SO HE'S ONE JUST DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

AND WHILE WE HAVE THE PICTURE OF COLLEGE STATION UP THERE, I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE WHAT A REALLY WELL DESIGNED CITY HALL COULD LOOK LIKE.

THAT'S NOT OBNOXIOUS.

AND SO KUDOS TO TOM.

BUT ALSO, I THINK YOU'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE HOW WELL WE ARE PLANNED AHEAD SO THAT YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU'RE HERE IN FIVE, TEN YEARS, YOU'LL SAY, GOOD JOB, GRASSHOPPER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN HALLER HOW MUCH PROPERTY IS AVAILABLE? I KNOW THE THE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS, HAS MOVED OUT OF WHAT USED TO BE THE GUN RANGE, HOW MUCH HOW MUCH PROPERTY IS OUT THERE AND IS THAT USABLE? THE GUN RANGE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMEDIATE.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

THAT MAY BE BETTER TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY COME IN AND DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

THERE'S THAT SPACE ON THE CORNER.

AND THEN THERE'S ROUND NUMBERS 200 PLUS.

I THINK IT'S CLOSER TO 300 ACRES ON THE BACKSIDE, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE ACCESSIBLE UNTIL THE LOOP GOES THROUGH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I HAVE JUST ONE THOUGHT.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING, IF YOU COULD BE SO KIND AS FUTURE TO NOTE THAT WE WERE ACCOUNTING FOR THE CHAMBER AND DISCOVER DENTON AND THAT OFFICE SPACE THAT THEY REQUIRE.

SO AS, AS WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTIONS, JUST SOME KIND OF TALLY THAT SAYS, HEY, WE'VE WE'RE GOOD HERE AS WELL.

DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE OR JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS A VISUAL REMINDER THAT WE'VE WE'VE TALKED TO THEM, WHATEVER GROWTH THEY'RE EXPERIENCING AS THE CITY GROWS, I

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EXPECT THEM TO GROW.

SO JUST MAKING SURE WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE SPACE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED.

AND THEN MAYBE IT'D BE GOOD TO TO HAVE A CADENCE TO REVISIT THAT LEASE OR, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE THAT'S THE AS WE REVISIT THE LEASE, THAT'S THE CHECK IN POINT TO SEE WHAT THEIR GROWTH NUMBERS ARE.

BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU FACTORED THAT IN TO YOUR YOUR ASSESSMENT.

EVERY OCCUPANT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WITH THE RESPECTIVE GROWTH RATES WERE ACCOUNTED FOR.

BUT WE WILL REVIEW THAT.

AND AND WE WILL PROBABLY LOOK AT THAT.

WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AT A MORE FREQUENT BASIS JUST TO ENSURE THAT THEIR DATA IS UP TO DATE WITH THE CITY DATA.

OKAY. YEAH. AND SO IT'S JUST A IT'S NOT OURS TO MANAGE.

BUT JUST SO I HAVE KIND OF A VISUAL REMINDER THAT THAT IT'S THAT IT'S CHECKED OFF.

THAT'D BE GREAT. ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN MR. CITY MANAGER, I DO WANT TO BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH ANY DESIGN DISCUSSIONS, OBVIOUSLY I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MATURE.

BUT THEN TO I JUST IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

HISTORICAL ASPECTS HAVE MANY FACES.

RIGHT. AND O'NEIL FORD, CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE.

UNDENIABLE. HE WENT TO DENTON HIGH, LIVED IN THE AREA, DID GREAT WORK, BUT HE ALSO WENT TO DENTON HIGH WHEN IT WAS SEGREGATED.

THERE'S A HISTORY.

THERE'S AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY.

THERE'S A HISPANIC HERITAGE.

HISTORY. ALL THOSE THINGS REQUIRE DILIGENT DELIBERATIONS.

SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RUSH BACK WITH ANYTHING ABOUT HISTORICAL ASPECTS WITHOUT A HEALTHY CONVERSATION, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ENTIRE HISTORY IS MEMORIALIZED AND CAPTURED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO THAT'S ABOUT AS DELICATE AS I CAN GET.

BUT FOR ANYBODY THAT'S NOT SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THAT MAYOR'S WALL AND CITY MANAGER WALL, WE THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE REPRESENT ALL 151,000 PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYBODY.

UH, LIVED LIFE THE SAME AND HAS THAT SAME FONDNESS.

DENTON IS A GREAT CITY, BUT IT'S UNDENIABLE THAT MY FOLKS MOVED HERE IN 70 AND COULDN'T LIVE.

ON OAK STREET. THE OTHER SIDE.

RIGHT. THAT WASN'T AN OPTION.

MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE SAYS.

NEGROID ON IT.

DENTON COUNTY DOCUMENT.

RIGHT. SO WHEN WE REFLECT FONDLY ON HISTORY.

WE. WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S CHALLENGES BAKED IN THERE.

THAT'S REAL HEAVY.

AND SO I JUST SAY DON'T RUSH BACK WITH A WITH AN ANSWER FOR THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE FEELS WELCOME, EVERYONE FEELS HEARD.

AND WE HAVE A DIVERSE APPROACH TO THAT.

AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME DOING AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION.

IT'LL BE FANTASTIC, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE RUSH INTO, HOPEFULLY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN I HAVE IF I COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND JOIN YOU.

SO I.

CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'VE BEEN HIDING FROM US FOR SEVEN MONTHS.

BUT. THAT'S AWESOME.

SO WE HAVE AN ELEPHANT FOR YOU TO REMEMBER YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION TO US.

WE SURE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

YOUR EXPERTISE YOU BRING TO THE TABLE REALLY VALUABLE ASSET.

AND IT'LL SERVE NOT ONLY THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY WELL, BUT IT ALSO SERVE OUR TAXPAYERS WELL.

SO TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT. YES.

OH, HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B WHICH IS ID 231601.

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the creation of a City of Denton Streetlight Criteria Manual, proposed amendments to the Denton Development Code (DDC), and streetlight luminaires for use in residential developments.]

RECEIVE REPORT HOLD DISCUSSION, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CREATION OF A CITY OF DENTON STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE STREETLIGHT LUMINARY LUMINARY LUMINARIES FROM FOR USE IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

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GIVE US JUST A MOMENT TO GET OUR DISPLAY SET UP.

WE'LL BE RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT.

LET NO ONE TOUCH NOTHING.

NOTHING COULD GO WRONG WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S MAKING ME NERVOUS. THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME JOIN YOU TODAY.

I'M AARON BENNION, ENGINEERING SUPERVISOR WITH DME, AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STREETLIGHTS IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

FIRST OFF, WE'D LIKE TO REVIEW SOME OF THE STREETLIGHT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

AS WE TALK ABOUT THAT, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT THERE AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IN RELATION TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

FOLLOWING THAT, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL THAT THE MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON.

AND LASTLY, PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION OF SOME LUMINAIRES THAT WE BELIEVE WILL SOLVE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE UP AGAINST.

SO FIRST, TO TALK ABOUT STREET LIGHTING.

HISTORICALLY THEY WERE GOVERNED BY THE DENTON.

I'M SORRY, NOT THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES UP UNTIL 2020, WHEN THOSE REQUIREMENTS WERE MOVED TO THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WHEN THEY WERE MOVED OVER, THERE WERE THESE FOUR REQUIREMENTS LISTED FROM SECTION SEVEN 11.6.

THE FIRST ONE.

BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL STREETLIGHTS SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE GENERAL HEALTH AND WELFARE OF OUR CITIZENS.

WE ALSO HAVE A REQUIREMENT B THAT ENCOURAGES UNIFORMITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE STREETLIGHTS THAT ARE CHOSEN MATCH THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. REQUIREMENT C REQUIRES A STREETLIGHT THAT DOESN'T EMIT ANY LIGHT ABOVE A HORIZONTAL PLANE. SOMETIMES THESE ARE REFERRED TO AS DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTS.

RIGHT NOW, OUR ACORN STYLE LIGHTS OR THE HISTORIC LIGHTS THAT YOU SEE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, DOES NOT MEET THIS REQUIREMENT.

OUR OVERHEAD LIGHTS THAT ARE INSTALLED ON MOST ROADWAYS DOES MEET THIS REQUIREMENT, BUT WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE RIGHT FROM THE START.

AND THEN REQUIREMENT D IT SAYS ALL STREETLIGHT FIXTURES SHALL BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED TO MINIMIZE OR ELIMINATE THE DIRECT VISIBILITY OF THE LIGHT SOURCE SO THAT THEY DO NOT CAST OR REFLECT LIGHT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THE INTENT IS GOOD.

IT'S INTENDED TO MINIMIZE THE LIGHT TRESPASS, BUT THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT IN LEGAL OR PHYSICAL TERMS IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE.

AND SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WE PROPOSE A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.

FIRST, IN PARAGRAPH 711 SIX C, WE ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THE ADDITION OF THE WORD NEW SO THAT ALL NEW STREET LIGHTING FIXTURES SHALL BE FULL CUT OFF.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'LL EMIT NO UPLIGHT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEW LUMINAIRE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE DENT DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO RETROFIT ALL OF THE ACORNS THAT ARE ACORN STYLE LIGHTS THAT ARE INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

NOW THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.

BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S A COST TO THAT.

AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE COMPLIANT FROM A GIVEN DATE ONWARD.

AND THEN FOR THE NEXT PARAGRAPH, WE ACTUALLY RECOMMEND REPLACING IT WITH A REFERENCE TO THE NEW STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL.

THIS MANUAL WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ALL NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

ALL STREET LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DENTON, AND WOULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO BOTH STAFF AND DEVELOPERS ON HOW AND WHAT TO INSTALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE CONSISTENCY, SAFETY AND UNIFORMITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

NOW. THE STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED IS BASED IN NATIONAL.

I'M SORRY, THE AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARDS INSTITUTE OR ANSI EIGHT.

THIS IS A WELL RESEARCHED AND ORGANIZED DOCUMENT PUT TOGETHER BY EXPERTS IN THE FIELD.

AND SO OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS DOCUMENT WOULD PUT US IN LINE WITH NATIONAL STANDARDS AND BASICALLY KEEP US ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LAW.

IF EVER THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD ADEQUATELY LIT A STREET AND THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT OR A FATALITY.

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NOW THE MANUAL ITSELF WOULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO DEVELOPERS AND STAFF ON INSTALLATION MATERIALS, PLACEMENTS, AND HELP REMOVE A LOT OF THE CONFUSION THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITH STREETLIGHTS.

WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM DEVELOPERS AS TO WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT AND HOW THAT'S DIVIDED AND WHERE THINGS SHOULD GO.

THIS WOULD WOULD PUT IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE AND HOPEFULLY SIMPLIFY THAT PROCESS FOR OUR DEVELOPERS.

AND LASTLY, WE RECOMMEND HERE AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT A NEW LUMINAIRE THAT WOULD BE USED IN ALL NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT PRODUCES NO UPLIGHT.

THIS PARTICULAR LUMINAIRE IS RECOMMENDED ALSO BECAUSE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR CURRENT DIMMING SYSTEM THAT IS USED TO REDUCE LIGHT DURING BIRD MIGRATION SEASONS, AND ALSO AT TIMES WHEN WE'VE HAD CUSTOMERS CONCERNED OR COMPLAIN ABOUT TOO MUCH LIGHT IN THEIR HOME.

WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO THAT REMOTELY, LIGHT BY LIGHT OR IN GROUPS WITH THIS DIMMING SYSTEM.

AND SO AS WE EVALUATED DIFFERENT POTENTIAL LUMINAIRES, THOSE WERE TWO OF OUR TOP CONCERNS.

AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THIS PARTICULAR LUMINAIRE.

WE CAN GET IT IN A VARIETY OF COLORS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH DARK GRAY.

AND IT HAS A MATCHING METAL POLE THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED ON A CONCRETE BASE.

THE BASE IS FLUSH WITH THE GROUND, IT DOESN'T STICK UP ABOVE GROUND AND THEY BOLT ON TO THAT.

SO THIS IS THE THE LUMINAIRE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND.

AND WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL PAUSE AND ASK.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS UP TO THIS POINT? GREAT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, COUNCILMEMBER MELTZER.

YEAH. AGAIN. SORRY I DIDN'T THINK OF THIS BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT IS THIS INTENDED FOR NEW BUILDS WHERE TRENCHING WOULD BE REQUIRED? AND ARE THERE ANY ADVANTAGES TO CONSIDERING LUMINAIRES OF SIMILAR SPECS THAT DON'T REQUIRE TRENCHING AND THAT OPERATE ON SOLAR AND BATTERY? SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, WOULD HAVE WE CONSIDERED LUMINAIRES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY SOLAR POWERED AND WIRELESS AND DON'T REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO INSTALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ELECTRICAL? WE HAVE HAD ONE COMPANY APPROACH US AND PRESENT SOME.

WE DO HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT COMPANY.

PROVIDED IF IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO SHARE.

IT'S A FAIRLY NEW TECHNOLOGY.

NOT THAT SOLAR AND LIGHTING IS NEW, BUT THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO.

AND SO THEY'RE JUST QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT I'M SORRY.

LET ME SCROLL DOWN TO THAT.

THERE ARE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET.

SOME OF IT OBVIOUSLY IS WILL PEOPLE BE OKAY WITH THE ESTHETICS MAINTENANCE IF IT'S NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO OUR ELECTRICAL SYSTEM? DOES DME MAINTAIN IT? IS THIS A VENDOR ONLY MAINTAINED SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S VERY SELF CONTAINED? WHAT'S THE BATTERY LIFE AND DISPOSAL COSTS? THEY DO USE BATTERIES AND OF COURSE SYSTEM COSTS.

THERE'S THE QUESTION OF ARE THEY DIMMABLE.

WOULD THAT BE AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP WITH THE CITIZENS OR NOT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS OUT THERE WITH REGARD TO THAT SYSTEM.

AND THEN ALSO OWNERSHIP IF THEY DON'T TIE DIRECTLY TO DME SYSTEM IS DME THE RIGHT ONE TO OWN THAT? IS THIS A CONTRACT? IS THIS A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE JUST REALLY DON'T KNOW YET.

SO IS THAT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE INVESTIGATING THESE QUESTIONS OR THERE ARE TOO MANY QUESTIONS.

THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT INVESTIGATING IT.

IF WE WERE TO INVESTIGATE IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A PILOT.

THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ACROSS THE CITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THERE'S JUST TOO MANY QUESTIONS THAT WE DECIDED RIGHT NOW ISN'T THE TIME THAT WE WANT TO TRY AND DO THIS ACROSS THE CITY.

NOW, IF THERE WAS INTEREST AND DESIRE TO DO A PILOT IN A SPECIFIC AREA THAT THAT COULD BE BROUGHT UP.

BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S JUST MORE QUESTIONS THAN WE WERE READY FOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HOLLAND.

THANK YOU. I'M.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

THE LUMINAIRE THAT YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE HERE, WHICH IS WHICH IS VERY NICE.

LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THIS THAT'S ON DISPLAY HERE, WHICH LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE LIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT UP IN THE IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TRYING TO RETRO THE OLD THE OLD LOOK OF STREET LIGHTS.

AND THAT'S A TERRIBLE DESCRIPTION OF THAT.

HELP ME, HELP ME FOLLOW ALONG THERE.

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WHAT WHAT IS WHY IS THAT ON THE TABLE THERE THAT'S ABOUT TO FALL OVER? I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU.

WE DID KIND OF LEAD THE WITNESS IN THAT REGARD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO THERE HAD BEEN SOME QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF RETROFITTING THE EXISTING ACORN LIGHTS WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO I'LL EXPLAIN THE DEMONSTRATION.

GOT TO HAVE THE GOT A MICROPHONE.

YEAH. SORRY.

MAYBE YOU CAN ROLL THE TABLE TOWARDS YOU OKAY.

BUT DON'T LET IT JUMP OVER.

YEAH. HOLD ON. OH THERE WE GO.

THAT'S MUCH BETTER, I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT.

HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS.

AND I STILL COME ACROSS.

SO THESE ROOFS AS THEY'RE CALLED BY THE MANUFACTURER.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY MULTIPLE STYLES AND MODELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND INTERCHANGEABLE WITH THE ACORN LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE IF I.

IF I WAS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

LOOKS LIKE THAT PROBABLY LOOKS A LITTLE MORE FAMILIAR.

SO THESE ARE THE CURRENT ACORN STYLE LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THIS IS AN ACRYLIC REFRACTIVE GLOBE, AND SO IT'S DESIGNED TO SPREAD LIGHT IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

NOW THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT IS THERE SOME WAY TO REDUCE THE LIGHT THAT GOES UPWARD.

AND ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE WANTED TO SHOW IS THAT THESE CAN BE SWITCHED OUT.

THERE'S FOUR FOUR SCREWS.

IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY MUCH TO DO IT.

AND. THESE METALLIC ROOFS BE INSTALLED INSTEAD.

NOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS GLOBE IS REFRACTIVE, IT STILL EMITS SOME UP LIGHT.

THERE'S A REDUCTION.

WHEN WE ASK THE MANUFACTURER WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, THEY SAID IT'S UNTESTED.

THEY THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER.

AND SO WE'VE GUESSED A RANGE OF 20 TO 70% REDUCTION.

BUT THERE IS SOME SOME REDUCTION IN THAT.

AND SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS THAT WAS PROVIDED.

IF THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT UPLIGHT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AGAIN, THERE'S A COST TO IT.

THE EXPECTED COST TO REPLACE ALL OF THESE THROUGHOUT THE CITY WOULD BE ABOUT $2 MILLION.

A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT IS JUST PAYING FOR THE ROOF ITSELF.

AND THEN THERE'S THE LABOR WOULD TAKE ANOTHER 1 TO 2 YEARS.

WE JUST FINISHED THE LED RETROFITS.

AND SO COMPARED TO THAT, THIS IS A LITTLE SIMPLER, BUT IT WOULD STILL TAKE SOME TIME TO TO REPLACE ALL 3500.

THAT CLEARS IT UP FOR ME. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I WILL START FROM HERE AND LEAD THAT.

SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FOR THESE HATS CAME OUT OF THE CRC MEETING.

WHERE WERE THE ROOFS? YEAH, HATS ARE CUTE TOO, BUT THE ROOFS WERE WERE BROUGHT FORWARD.

CONCEPT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THAT COMMITTEE.

SO THEY'RE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL.

THE DO DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON WHEN WE'RE LIKELY TO KNOW WHAT.

THE INDUSTRY STANDARD REDUCTION IN LIGHTING IN CONTROLLED I DON'T IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S 20 OR 70.

WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT WHAT A NUMBER IS THAT WE CAN REASONABLY TELL FOLKS.

SO YOUR QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD THE ACTUAL REDUCTION BE? WHEN WOULD WE KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL REDUCTION WOULD BE? YEAH, WE WE DON'T RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COMMISSIONED THAT.

THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THAT WITH THE CURRENT SETUP, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE MANUFACTURER WOULD DO FOR US.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A COST OR NOT, BUT THEY HAVE THE LIGHTING SENSORS REQUIRED AND THE BASICALLY THE EQUIPMENT REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE LIGHT AT DIFFERENT ANGLES AND HOW MUCH THERE IS.

THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE MANUFACTURER SO WE CAN ASK.

BUT THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WELL, OKAY, THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.

AND THEN BACK TO THE PRIMARY PRESENTATION.

I MEAN, I WOULD SAY BEFORE I LEAVE, SOMETHING NORTH OF ZERO IS IS ALWAYS PREFERRED TO ZERO.

SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S BETTER THAN NOTHING AS LONG AS IT'S AFFORDABLE.

BUT BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR DIRECTION ON APPROVING THE CHANGES SO THAT WE REFERENCE THAT.

BUT DOES THE CRITERIA MANUAL EXIST YET? SO WOULD WE BE REFERENCING IF WE APPROVED IT? WOULD WE BE REFERENCING A DOCUMENT THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET?

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SO RIGHT NOW THE MANUAL HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROCESS OF SELECTING A LIGHT, THE MANUAL RIGHT NOW IS IN DRAFT FORM BASICALLY WAITING ON WHICH LIGHT ARE WE GOING TO SELECT.

AND SO IT'S BEEN WRITTEN.

WE'D LIKE TO APPROVE IT AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT IT'S WAITING ON THIS.

WELL WHAT DO WE TELL DEVELOPERS TO INSTALL.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PRESENTING BOTH THIS MANUAL AND ASKING ABOUT THE LUMINAIRES AT THE SAME TIME.

GO AHEAD JERRY.

JERRY FELDMAN ENGINEERING MANAGER JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THOUGHT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU GUYS TODAY IN THE WORK SESSION.

WE WILL HAVE A FULL BLOWN PUBLIC HEARING COME UP EARLY NEXT MONTH IN WHICH THAT POINT AFTER THAT, YOU GUYS WILL APPROVE THE ACTUAL MANUAL.

WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON RIGHT NOW IS IF YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THE PROPOSED LIGHT, THEN WE'LL ADD THAT LIGHTING INTO THAT MANUAL AND IT WILL BE COMPLETE AT THAT POINT.

SO THAT WILL BE A FINALIZED MANUAL.

OKAY I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAVE TWO TO HOPEFULLY BRIEF QUESTIONS.

I THINK THE BACKUP SAID THERE WAS ABOUT 3500 LIGHTS.

AND AND THOSE ARE ALL RECENT.

SO THEIR THEIR DUTY CYCLE IS STILL GOING TO BE 95% OR SOMETHING.

LIKE WHAT WHAT WAS THEIR DUTY CYCLE.

SO FOR WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DUTY CYCLE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BRIGHTNESS LIFETIME OKAY OKAY.

SO FOR AN LED FOR AN LED LIGHT, WE RECENTLY RETROFITTED ALL OF THE POST-OP LIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT TOOK ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO DO.

AND THE LIFESPAN FOR MOST LED LUMINAIRES, INCLUDING THE ONES WE HAVE, IS ABOUT 20 YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE 25%.

SO, SO.

THOSE 3500 LIGHTS ARE 3500 LIGHTS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO THEN IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH THE ACORN LIGHTS, THEN WE'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OUR OWN CODE FOR 20 YEARS.

UNLESS WE CHANGE DDC TO SAY NEW.

IF THE CHANGE TO PARAGRAPH C IS ACCOMPLISHED AND WE SELECT A NEW LIGHT, THEN MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DDC, KEEP OUR EXISTING LIGHTS AND AND BE COMPLIANT WITH OURSELVES.

AND THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION.

HOW ARE WE DEFINING NEW? IS IT NEW TO A LOCATION OR A NEW DEVICE? OR HOW ARE WE DEFINING NEW? SO THE CURRENT INTENT, ALTHOUGH WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO TO DIRECTION, BUT THE CURRENT INTENT WAS PICKING A DATE RIGHT NOW.

THE GOAL WOULD BE JANUARY OF 2020 FOR ALL DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME THROUGH APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR I'M SORRY, I'M FORGETTING THE NAME.

DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT IT IS.

ANYTHING THAT GETS APPROVED FROM THAT POINT FORWARD WOULD DESIGN WITH THE NEW LIGHTS AND INSTALL WITH THE NEW LIGHTS.

WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE WELL INTO THE BUILD PROCESS RIGHT NOW, AND IF WE WERE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, EITHER HALF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE THE NEW LIGHTS AND HALF WOULD HAVE THE OLD. SO BY PICKING A DATE AND HAVING IT BE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE APPROVAL ONWARD, THEN A DEVELOPMENT STARTS WITH THE NEW LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING'S UNIFORM AND CONSISTENT.

THAT'S THAT'S THE INTENT RIGHT NOW.

NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND BUT IF I COULD JUST ASK FOR SOME CLARITY IS AS A, AS A LIGHT BREAKS IN, IN A RESIDENTIAL OR WHEREVER DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN THE NEW LIGHTS.

AND SO OVER TIME IT WILL SLOWLY TRANSFORM INTO THE NEW LIGHTS.

SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT LAST LONE ACORN LIGHT JUST FORLORNLY SITTING THERE IN 20 YEARS.

I APPRECIATE YOU RESTATING THAT, BECAUSE I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO AS THINGS BREAK ALONG THE WAY? WITH THESE 20 YEARS, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN A STOCK OF THE ACORN LIGHTS AND REPAIR PARTS UNTIL A CERTAIN DATE.

IF WE DECIDE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING OUT TO A NEW STYLE, WE CAN.

OTHERWISE THEY MAY CONTINUE IN BASICALLY A MAINTENANCE MODE INDEFINITELY.

AND SO I KNOW THAT'S NOT A GREAT ANSWER, BUT THAT'S THAT'S A DECISION WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IS AT SOME POINT, DO DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THESE TO SOMETHING NEW. AND, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? ARE WE GOING TO DO IT NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD, OR ARE WE GOING TO DO IN MASS ALL OF THE LIGHTS AT ONCE? AND SO THOSE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW HAS REALLY JUST BEEN TO TRY AND GET OURSELVES COMPLIANT MOVING FORWARD.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK.

SO THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT IF WE STILL HAVE SOME STOCK IN 20 YEARS, IN 20 YEARS, WE'D BE PUTTING ANOTHER 20 YEAR LIGHT IN.

UNLESS WE CHOOSE TO CHANGE OUR OUR CODE TO WHOLESALE REPLACE THE FIXTURE.

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HOPEFULLY WE'LL ADDRESS IT BEFORE THEN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER BARRETT? JUST CLARIFICATION HERE.

I SAW TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTS ON THE SCROLL OR I SAW ONE THAT LIGHT RECOMMENDED.

OR IS THAT LIGHT AND THAT LIGHT.

ARE WE PURCHASING THIS TOGETHER OR IS IT THAT LIGHT ONLY OR THAT LIGHT ONLY? WHAT DECISION DO WE HAVE TO MAKE? SO THE DECISION IS WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS LIGHT, OR IF IF THE COUNCIL JUST THINKS THAT'S HORRIBLE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER LIGHT, OKAY.

IN ORDER TO STOP INSTALLING THESE IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT DARK SKY.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE STUFF THAT CAN BE DONE NOW.

YEAH. NOW ARE THESE LIGHTS GOING TO BE IN AND WE'RE UNIFORMING WHATEVER LIGHT.

SO IF WE SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT LIGHT IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WE WANT THAT LIGHT IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THAT'S THE CHOICE WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING.

OKAY. THAT ONE'S MAKING SENSE.

ONE OR THE OTHER.

BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO TRY TO PUT THOSE DOWNTOWN AREA WHICH ARE NICE OR IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE THOSE LIGHTS ON MORE OF A BUSINESS SITUATION. BUT IF WE'RE ONLY USING ONE LIGHT, YOU'RE GIVING ME MORE KNOWLEDGE.

OKAY, SO HERE'S MY OTHER QUESTION.

I SAW IN THE IN THE MATERIALS THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT STREETLIGHTS NOT SENDING LIGHT TO THE NEXT LOT, SOME TYPE OF LIGHT THAT WON'T HIT THE NEXT LOT.

AND SO I AND SO SO HOW MANY LIGHTS WOULD YOU HAVE TO PUT ON A STREET.

I MEAN AM I'M USING VERY KINDERGARTEN LEVEL PRE PRE K LEVEL THINKING HERE BECAUSE I'M SEEING A LIGHT NOT ILLUMINATING MY NEIGHBOR'S PART OF THAT DRIVEWAY AND HOW THEY JUST KIND OF GO ON AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT WITH LIGHT. TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LIGHT NOT HITTING THE NEXT LOT OR SO.

OKAY. GETTING THAT RIGHT.

SO THE THE WAY THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THIS REQUIREMENT D SAYS THAT LIGHTS WILL BE DESIGNED SO THAT LIGHT DOESN'T LAND ON NEIGHBORING LOTS. WELL, MOST OF OUR STREETLIGHTS ARE INSTALLED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND IF LIGHT LANDS ON THE LOT BEHIND IT, OR THE LOT NEXT TO IT OR TO TWO DOWN, WE'RE TECHNICALLY IN VIOLATION OF THIS REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE'VE JUST SAID LIGHTS NOT GOING TO LAND ON ANY OF THEIR LOTS, BUT PHYSICALLY AND PRACTICALLY WE EXPECT THAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS BE CHANGED.

AND WE POINT TO THE NEW CRITERIA MANUAL THAT SAYS, LET'S INSTALL LIGHTS EVERY 250FT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN FOR STREETS, LET'S INSTALL PER THIS SPATE SO THAT WE MEET NATIONAL STANDARDS AND OF SAFETY AND LIGHTING.

AND THOSE DO LAP OVER IN SOME WAYS GENERALLY.

I MEAN WE'RE WE'RE OKAY WITH LIGHT HITTING THE NEXT LOT.

I AM YEAH.

THE THE THERE ARE OPTIONS TO MINIMIZE IT IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

ON SOME OF OUR LIGHTS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT WHAT THEY CALL HOUSE SIDE SHIELDS.

THAT JUST ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA LIP OR PROTECTION TO KEEP IT FROM SHINING TOO BRIGHT.

BUT IN REALITY, IF YOU INSTALL A LIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, SOME LIGHT IS GOING TO LAND ON THE NEIGHBORING LOTS.

YEAH. I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT OUR NEIGHBORS ARGUING ABOUT THEIR LIGHTS BEING TOO DARK.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUDGE HARLAN. SORRY.

DON'T BE SORRY. JUST WHEN I.

WHEN I WALK MY DOG, I VERY OFTEN WALK IN THE DARK.

IN THE SERIOUS DARK.

I HAVE NEVER TO COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER BIRDS QUESTION.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING TOO LIGHT.

I'VE ALWAYS SAID, GOLLY, IT'S REALLY DARK IN THIS PART OF THE THIS PART OF THE STRETCH OF OF MY WALK.

I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THERE BEING TOO MUCH LIGHT, BECAUSE MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LIGHT AT AT NIGHT. AND SECONDLY.

OH. AREN'T THERE SOME INSTANCES WHERE CITY INSTALLED LIGHTS ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? ILLUMINATING PRIVATE PROPERTY.

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YEAH YEAH YEAH. AND I CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE RIGHT THIS SECOND.

RIGHT. RIGHT AFTER YOU. JERRY.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE TYPICALLY WE CALL THAT A SECURITY LIGHT.

SO THE CUSTOMER THEMSELVES PAY FOR IT AND THEY PAY TO HAVE THAT LIGHT.

IT LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE THE LIGHT THAT WE HAVE ON STREETS.

BUT THE CUSTOMER THEMSELVES PAY FOR THAT.

BUT WE WE TRY TO AVOID AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF USING CITY PAY TO LIGHT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

WE KIND OF WORK SERIOUSLY TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT.

GET BACK TO ME. TOO MUCH LIGHT.

OH, THAT WAS THE QUESTION OKAY.

YEAH. NO I APOLOGIZE.

SO THE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE USUALLY HEAR IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT LIKE WE'VE HAD PROJECTS THAT RECOMMENDED OR HAVE ADDED LIGHTS TO A DEVELOPMENT, THE ONES THAT WANT MORE LIGHT GENERALLY DON'T SAY ANYTHING AND WE'LL HAVE A HANDFUL THAT DON'T LIKE IT.

THAT I GUESS BASICALLY I'M JUST SHARING THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR.

PEOPLE WILL SPEAK UP IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE LIGHT, BUT VERY RARELY DO WE HEAR ANYONE ASKING FOR MORE LIGHT, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO THE STATUS QUO OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHAT'S. JUST TO CLEAR THINGS UP.

WE'RE NOT HERE GIVING DIRECTION ON WHAT'S SITTING ON THE TABLE.

IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY. SO I CAN BARELY SEE YOU.

SO COULD WE MIND MOVING THAT A LITTLE BIT AND JUST HOLD ON TO THAT? YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S JUST KIND OF SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER LATER ON.

OKAY. SO THEN ON THE LIGHT FIXTURE THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, RECOMMENDING IS THAT BOTH FOR THE STREETLIGHTS THAT DEVELOPERS PUT IN AND WHAT GOES ON THE CITY INSTALLED STREET, OR ARE THOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT? THIS IS JUST FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LIGHTS.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

AND SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE DDC.

SO MAYOR PRO TEM SAID WHY ARE WE ASKING TO GIVE DIRECTION ON SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE CRITERIA MANUAL.

THAT'S NOT BEFORE US. BUT YOU JUST SHOWED THAT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE TO GO INTO THE DDC, WHICH IS ACTIVE, WHICH WE WANT TO BECOME COMPLIANT WITH.

AND WE HAVE CODES, ALL THE CODES CHANGE.

THERE'S TIMES WHEN HOMEOWNERS ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH NEW CODES ON THEIR ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND HVAC STRUCTURES, BUT WE DON'T MAKE THEM GO IN.

AND IF THEY DO REPAIRS OR IF THEY DO REPLACEMENT, WE DO SO ON THE.

SO MY QUESTION SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

AND I'M OKAY WITH THE SUGGESTED CHANGES TO THE DDC.

AND THEN TO SEE THE CRITERIA MANUAL AS IT COMES FORWARD.

SO ONE QUESTION I HAVE ON YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S JUST PICKING A DATE CERTAIN HERE IT IS.

ANYTHING BEFORE THAT DO IT.

DO WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW.

AND AFTER THAT DO WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL DECIDES MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.

SO BECAUSE STREETLIGHTS TYPICALLY ARE THE LAST THING TO GO IN OR SOMETIMES OR THEY COULD BE THE FIRST, I GUESS I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN YOU SAID THAT IF THEY HAVEN'T INSTALLED THEM YET ON PREEXISTING DEVELOPMENTS OUTSIDE OF A COST ISSUE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THE ONES THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING WILL GO ON PROBABLY A VERY SIMILAR POLL, MAYBE A DIFFERENT STYLE, DIFFERENT COLOR, BUT IS IT VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THESE ACORN POLLS WOULD GO ON AS FAR AS HEIGHT AND KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE SITTING ON AND THE ELECTRICAL WIRING AND ALL THAT TO SET IT UP, THE WIRING WOULD BE THE SAME.

THESE IDEALLY WOULD HAVE A METAL POLE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN DIFFERENCE.

OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE IF ANY.

THE COST DIFFERENCE PRIMARILY.

SO IS PART OF YOUR ASK FROM US THE THIS HARD DATE OF JANUARY 1ST.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COMES IS THAT PART OF THIS CRITERIA, THESE CHANGES YOU'RE ASKING US TO APPROVE, OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING YOU TALKED ABOUT AS AN EXAMPLE? IT'S CURRENTLY PART OF THE DRAFT CRITERIA MANUAL.

OKAY. BUT AGAIN THE MANUAL BEING A DRAFT, IF THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE WE CAN AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS OKAY.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME NOW.

AND IT'S JUST MY OWN CURIOSITY.

I'D BE CURIOUS AS TO MAYBE IN SOME EMAIL OR SOMETHING, MAYBE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR COUNCIL, HOW MANY DEVELOPMENTS WE CURRENTLY HAVE GOING THAT ARE IN A STAGE TO WHERE? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW CODE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.

SO I'M COMING IN, I'M SUBMITTING FOR A NEW SUBDIVISION.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

400 HOME SUBDIVISION.

AT WHAT POINT IN THIS PROCESS DOES THIS OFF PERIOD, LET'S SAY JANUARY 1ST.

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AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT OCCURS? AT WHAT STAGE? IF I'M COMING IN TO DO THIS, IS IT RIGHT IN THE BEGINNING.

WELL, ULTIMATELY WE TRY TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION.

I'M SORRY. SCOTT MCDONALD DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS GET GUIDANCE TODAY ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, WE WILL BEGIN IN THE PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES OF NOTIFYING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE MAKING CHANGES.

AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE CHANGE GOING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL START THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN EVERY SINGLE SUBDIVISION THAT WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE IN, WE WILL START IMPLEMENTING THE CHANGE.

IF SOMEONE HASN'T ACQUIRED THOSE FIXTURES OR SET SOMETHING ASIDE, WE'LL GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

SO WE'LL START THAT PROCESS IMMEDIATELY.

AS SOON AS YOU GIVE THE NOD THAT YOU'RE IN AGREEANCE WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE FROM A STAFF LEVEL AND THROUGH DC.

THE OTHER PIECE ON THE CRITERIA MANUAL, YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THE CRITERIA MANUALS AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THIS IS JUST TRYING TO GET ALL OF THOSE LINED OUT, THOSE DRAFT MANUALS THAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING SERVICES TEAM.

THEY'LL CARRY ALL OF THE ALL OF THE CRITERIA MANUALS FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

THIS IS JUST THE TWO ELEMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PIKE, WHERE SOMEONE'S ALREADY MADE THOSE PURCHASES, OR WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THOSE APPROVALS, WE WILL WE WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTING THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CERTAINLY TRY TO.

EVERY INSTANCE THAT WE CAN, AND WE'LL PUT NOTIFICATION OUT THERE AGAIN BEGINNING IMMEDIATELY IF WE GET THE NOD HERE TODAY.

OKAY. WHEN YOU SAY I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR IT, I JUST I THINK THAT THOSE ARE LONG PROCESSES.

SUBDEVELOPMENT SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT IS A LONG PROCESS.

ABSOLUTELY. AND IF LOOKING BACK, YOU'RE RIGHT, IF SOMEBODY PURCHASED IT AND THEY VERY CLEARLY NOT.

BUT IF THE DIFFERENCE IS A POLE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY IS SAYING WE'VE APPROVED YOUR SUBDIVISION AND IT MAY JUST BE SOMETHING VOLUNTARY.

YOU MIGHT COULD JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE CHANGING THIS.

WOULD YOU MIND DOING THIS? AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE WHAT THE COST DIFFERENCE IS AND ALL THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG ASK TO GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

IF YOU'VE GOT 1000 HOUSES IN THE PIPELINE, WHICH I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE DO FROM, LET'S SAY, THE LAST THIS QUARTER THAT MAY BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE SUMMER, THAT WILL MISS THIS CUT OFF.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FIND A PROCESS TO TRY TO GET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE PIPELINE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT THEM TO TRY TO EVEN THOSE THAT WE'VE APPROVED.

ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR EVERYONE THAT WE CAN BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS THIS IS FOR A BETTERMENT.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN ON THIS PATH.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

THE COMMUNITY KNOWS IT, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PROMOTE IT.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE NOD HERE TODAY.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK YOU'D GET MUCH RESISTANCE IF THEY HAVEN'T BOUGHT THEM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S A BIG DEAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR MELTZER? YEAH. THANK YOU. JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M TRACKING A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT I SAW THIS WEEKEND AT THE PICKLEBALL TENNIS CENTER.

LOOKS LIKE. NO, NO, NO.

OKAY, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE ANYWAY.

NO, NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH THIS ASPECT OF THE RECOMMENDATION, I HEARD CLEARLY READ AND HEARD THAT THIS IS SORT OF A DIFFERENT TOPIC. DOESN'T MEET THE NOT AN OPTION FOR MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU LAID OUT.

BUT IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, IT'S A POSSIBLE RETROFIT TO THE DOWNTOWN AREAS WHERE THE THE FULL GLASS ONES ARE.

THAT IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.

AND HOW WILL YOU DETERMINE.

YOU SAID IT'S SORT OF A GUESS WHETHER IT'S 25 OR 75% REDUCTION OF UPLIGHT.

WILL YOU BE DETERMINING THAT OR HOW WILL YOU DETERMINE THAT? BECAUSE I'D FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT IF IT'S 25 VERSUS 75 PLUS, IF I CAN ADD ON TO THE QUESTION BEFORE I ANSWER AND DO THOSE HAVE DIMMING INTERACTION CAPABILITIES AS WELL? OKAY, SO I'LL MAKE SURE I CUT ALL THREE.

YEAH. NUMBER ONE, COULD WE USE THESE DOWNTOWN OR ON THE EXISTING LIGHTS AS A RETROFIT? NUMBER TWO, COULD IT BE DIMMED? POTENTIALLY. AND NUMBER THREE, HOW MUCH YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH REDUCTION OF THE LIGHT IS IT? SO THE QUESTION ON THE UP LIGHT AND HOW MUCH RELATES TO MAYOR PRO TEM BECK'S QUESTION EARLIER, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMMISSION A STUDY FROM THE MANUFACTURER TO KNOW IT'S JUST NOT THE TOOLING AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO TO DO OURSELVES.

AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE MANUFACTURER TO GET A SPECIFIC NUMBER ON THAT IN TERMS OF IS THIS A POSSIBILITY TO RETROFIT? ABSOLUTELY. THE DIMMING SYSTEM.

WE REACHED OUT TO THE MANUFACTURER AND ASKED THEM BECAUSE THERE IS A NODE.

THAT FITS INSIDE RIGHT UP HERE.

THAT CONTROLS THE LIGHT THAT COMMUNICATES WITH OUR CONTROL SYSTEM VIA CELL PHONE, AS WELL AS A GPS

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SIGNAL, SO THAT THE SYSTEM KNOWS WHERE THE IS AT.

THE MANUFACTURER DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THIS PARTICULAR ROOF AS TO HOW WELL THAT WORKS.

LET ME JUST DO THIS. CAN WE CAN WE? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE.

CAN WE DO THE LIGHTNING ROUND? I MEAN Y'ALL BROUGHT IT. SO I'M TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT IT AND IT'S NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

BUT IF WE CAN GIVE THE SHORT ANSWERS AND GIVE LONG ANSWERS LATER WHEN IT'S ON THE AGENDA, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FANTASTIC. SO DO WE HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WITH THIS LIGHT.

IS THERE ARE THERE MULTI MULTI MULTIPLE MANUFACTURERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AS OF NOW THE MANUFACTURER SAYS THEY CAN SUPPLY THIS LIGHT FOR US WITHIN THREE MONTHS OKAY.

AND THEY'RE THE SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER.

YES. SO LET ME LET ME CORRECT MYSELF ON THAT.

THEY'RE THE MANUFACTURER.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE DISTRIBUTORS OF THIS OKAY.

GOT IT. OKAY. AND THEN.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY HEARD TWO PEOPLE, AND I WOULD BE AGAINST COMMISSIONING A STUDY FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY TO TAKE OUR MONEY TO THEN ADVERTISE HOW MUCH UPLIGHT THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY.

WHY WOULD THE CITY OF DENTON FUND IT FOR THEM TO THEN GO PUT IT ON THEIR ADVERTISEMENT, THAT SORT OF THING? DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD LOOK.

NOT NOT A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO BANKROLL A PRIVATE COMPANY'S ADVERTISING.

SO I'M HARD AGAINST THAT.

AND I WOULD HOPE AND THERE'S NOT BEEN A MAJORITY TO EXPRESS THAT DESIRE.

SO NO NEED TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD AT THIS PHASE BECAUSE YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO ENRICH, ENRICH A PRIVATE COMPANY.

SO NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH, I THOUGHT WE WERE KNOCKING.

THAT'S NOT YOU. OH, YOU'RE OLD HABIT.

GO RIGHT AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO FOR DIRECTION, I GIVE DIRECTION TO THE PRIMARY.

I KNOW YOU DID DDC THINGS.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE DARK SKIES COMPLIANCE ORDINANCE SINCE 2018.

I THINK IT'S WORTH OUR TIME TO FOLLOW OUR OWN RULES AND IF NECESSARY, PUT OUR OWN MONEY WHERE OUR OWN MOUTHS ARE.

SO I DO GIVE DIRECTION TO YOU TO DO THAT.

I HAD YOU COUNTED IN THE TWO, AND I ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO PUT OUR OWN MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS.

I'LL REMIND YOU OF THAT, COUNCILMAN MELTZER.

YEAH, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT ONE.

BUT SINCE YOU DID CONTINUE.

WELL, LET ME, LET ME LET ME LET ME PREFACE THAT AND GIVE DIRECTION ON IT.

YOU DID, YOU DID.

I DIDN'T, MAYOR, I'M HAPPY TO, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU, INCIDENTALLY, THAT IT'S IN THAT COMPANY'S INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THAT CLAIM. DARK SKIES IS NOT JUST A DENTON ISSUE, IT'S THE INDUSTRY.

SO THEY SHOULDN'T NEED OUR MONEY.

IF COMMISSION MEANS SAY YES, WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE ANSWER.

ABSOLUTELY. THINK WE OUGHT TO COMMUNICATE THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT WE OUGHT TO PAY FOR IT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT. SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT'S AGAINST WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING? THE LUMINAIRES THAT THEY'VE SUGGESTED.

POLES. JUST IF YOU'RE AGAINST STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE POLES ON THE LIGHTS NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU.

OTHERWISE, THEY HAVE THEIR DIRECTION.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. OH, AND ONE OTHER THING.

SO AARON LET ME COME UP.

SO HOW CAN I GET TO THE MICROPHONE? NO BREAK. HOW LONG? HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH THE CITY? FOUR AND A HALF YEARS. FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.

OUTSTANDING. AND YOU'RE JUST.

THIS IS THE FIRST PRESENTATION WITH CITY COUNCIL.

YES. YEAH, MAN.

HAVE YOU BEEN. WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT YOU ON THE HOT SEAT EARLIER.

THAT'S GOOD. BUT I DO HAVE AN ELEPHANT FOR YOU AS WELL.

JUST TO KIND OF REMEMBER THAT FIRST PRESENTATION.

VERY WELL DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND HERE WE GO.

HOLD ON. LET'S SLIDE OVER HERE BY THE LIGHT OF POWER HERE.

PUT YOUR HAND ON THERE FOR. HERE WE GO.

GO TEAM. ALL RIGHT.

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU MAN FOR SURE.

YEAH. SEE.

OH, THAT'S SO FUN WATCHING HIM CARRY THAT THING.

HE'S TAKING HIS BABY HOME.

OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM C, WHICH IS ID 23224.

[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: 1) Request for a resolution to send to the Denton County Commissioners Court encouraging the placement of voting centers in the City of Denton and throughout the entire county. 2) Request for a Work Session on the pros, cons, and options regarding requiring working air conditioning in rentals and prohibiting HOAs from disallowing air conditioners.]

RECEIVE REPORT. WHOLE DISCUSSION GIVES STAFF DIRECTION ON PENDING CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DID NOT GET AN ELEPHANT THE FIRST TIME THAT I DID A TWO MINUTE PITCH.

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SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ONE RETROACTIVE.

OH, MAN. YES, YOU GOT IT.

OKAY, I'M CORRECTING THAT.

YES. THANK YOU.

I'LL GIVE YOU TWO. AND.

PERFECT. AND SECOND, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO.

I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO SAY HELLO TO CARLOTTA.

CARLOTTA HAS BEEN DOING SOME SHADOWING IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SHE'S INTERESTED IN A CAREER PATH IN CITY MANAGEMENT.

AND I TOLD HER IF AT ANY POINT THERE'S A JOB OPENING WHEN A CURRENT A2 DECIDES TO RETIRE AND GO WORK AT H-E-B, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO PLEASE WELCOME HER.

WELCOME. AND YES, WE WILL GET STARTED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PENDING REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, ALSO KNOWN AS A TWO MINUTE PITCHES.

AS A REMINDER, UP TO SEVEN REQUESTS WILL BE REVIEWED PER MEETING, ONE PER COUNCIL MEMBER.

TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EACH STAFF MEMBER TO INTRODUCE THEIR REQUEST.

THEY'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO DESCRIBE AND JUSTIFY THEIR REQUEST, AND THEN REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL THEN HAVE A MAXIMUM OF UP TO ONE MINUTE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INDICATE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE USE OF CITY STAFF.

TIME TO RESPOND TO THE REQUEST.

STAFF WILL RESPOND TO ALL REQUESTS WHERE A CONSENSUS OF AT LEAST FOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IS ESTABLISHED, AND A CONSENSUS OF SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REQUIRED FOR A RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA PRIOR TO A WORK SESSION ON THE REQUEST.

AS A REMINDER, THE AGENDA REVIEW COMMITTEE IS HERE TO HELP YOU ESTABLISH A PRIORITY HIGH, MODERATE OR LOW.

AND WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE FOR A REQUEST FOR A RESOLUTION TO SEND TO THE DENTON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ENCOURAGING THE PLACEMENT OF VOTING CENTERS IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE, WHEN YOU'RE READY BEFORE AND BEFORE YOU, BEFORE WE START THE TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M CLEAR ON THE REQUEST BECAUSE OF THE NEW RULE.

IF IT'S TO GO STRAIGHT TO A AGENDA ITEM, THERE'S A SUPERMAJORITY REQUIREMENT VERSUS A WORK SESSION.

SO I JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR SO THAT I CAN KEEP COUNT.

ARE YOU REQUESTING.

IT'S NOT CLEAR AS I READ THIS.

ARE YOU REQUESTING A WORK SESSION OR A LETTER TO BE GENERATED WITHOUT A WORK SESSION? I THINK WE'RE JUST REQUESTING A LETTER.

RYAN. DO YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I GUESS I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT PIECE EITHER.

GENERATE THE GENERATION OF A LETTER WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO AN AGENDA.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. I THINK THAT ANYTHING ABSENT.

I WOULD THINK IF YOU'RE NOT REQUESTING A WORK SESSION, IT WOULD TRIGGER THE SUPERMAJORITY REQUIREMENT.

SO IT SAYS HERE THAT IT'S REQUIRED FOR A RESOLUTION.

AND YOUR REQUEST WAS FOR A TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION TO SEND TO THE DENTON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT LIKE. WITHOUT A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS IT.

YOU'D NEED IT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SUPERMAJORITY.

IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WORK SESSION, IT COULD BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

OKAY. I MEAN, OH, OKAY, I GUESS.

I'M CONFUSED. YES, YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKED FOR.

I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A WORK SESSION.

I WAS NOT TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING STRAIGHT ON THE AGENDA.

THAT WASN'T THE INTENTION. OKAY, OKAY.

GOT IT. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING I COULDN'T DO THAT.

AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, I WASN'T TRYING TO DO THAT, SO.

OKAY, MY BAD, MY BAD. NO, YOU CAN.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW TO TALLY.

YEAH I KNOW, BUT I WASN'T TRYING TO.

YES. OKAY.

OKAY. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT VOTING LOCATIONS, AND IT JUST BECAME VERY APPARENT TO ME THAT WE CAN SIDESTEP ALL THIS BY HAVING VOTE CENTERS IN PLACE. SO AS I REMEMBER THE HISTORY OF A THING BACK WHEN RECENTLY DECEASED FORMER FORMER JUDGE MARY HORNE WAS THE JUDGE OF THE COUNTY, LOOKED AT THIS AND THIS HAS PASSED THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY PASSED VOTE CENTERS ALREADY, AND AS I REMEMBER IT, SESSION BEFORE LAST IN THE SB THREE AND THE VOTING BILL THAT THE STATE PASSED, VOTE CENTERS WERE APPROVED FOR DENTON COUNTY, BUT VOTE CENTERS STILL HAVE NOT BEEN PUT IN PLACE.

I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT I WOULD LIKE THIS BODY REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF DENTON TO ADD TO THE CHORUS OF FOLKS WHO SUPPORT VOTE CENTERS.

SO WHY IN THE METROPLEX, WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTY THAT DOES NOT HAVE VOTE CENTERS, RIGHT? SO EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY IN TARRANT COUNTY, DALLAS COUNTY, COLLIN COUNTY VOTERS KNOW THAT THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT AND CAST THEIR BALLOT DIDN'T COUNT. THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T DO THAT.

THIS MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR OUR VOTERS.

EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE OUR POLLING LOCATIONS SHOULD BE.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE IF VOTING CENTERS ARE PUT IN PLACE, WE CAN MIX THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSISTENCY, AND WE KNOW THAT OUR VOTERS ARE GOING TO COME TO EXPECT THAT.

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AND THE LAST REASON FOR ME IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CHEAPER.

IT IS CHEAPER TO HAVE VOTE CENTERS FOR THE CITY, AND BY EXTENSION, I'M GOING TO ASSUME EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY.

BUT OUR DUTY AS FOLKS WHO OVERSEE THE FINANCIAL BUDGET OF THIS CITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING AS FRUGAL AND WISE WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS AS POSSIBLE.

VOTE CENTERS IS A WAY FOR US TO SAVE MONEY.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO IS MAKING SURE WE'RE MAXIMIZING THE VOTERS TAX DOLLARS.

SO WITH THAT, I'M ASKING THAT IF WE NEED TO HAVE A WORK SESSION, THAT'S FINE.

I TRUST STAFF THAT THEY CAN TAKE WHAT THIS BODY SAYS.

THEY CAN DRAFT SOMETHING UP.

WE CAN GIVE IT A QUICK LOOK AND THE WORK SESSION, WE CAN PUT IT ON AGENDA.

WE CAN PASS IT. WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR COUNTY PARTNERS TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY PASSED THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY, I'LL.

I'LL GET OUT OF THE WAY.

I DON'T SUPPORT THIS.

JUDGE HAS 1 MILLION PEOPLE THAT HE IS TASKED WITH MANAGING.

HE'S IN TASKED WITH MANAGING THIS PROJECT.

NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE GET NOTES FROM AUSTIN TELLING US WHAT TO DO.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD LOOK.

WE'RE ALREADY, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY IN A FORMAL STANDPOINT AND A FORMAL WAY, AND SAY THAT WE TAKE A POSITION CONTRARY TO WHAT HE'S DOING.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN PROCESS.

WE HAVE NO UPDATE ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THAT PROCESS.

AND A FORMAL LETTER THAT GETS IN THE NEWS, THAT GETS EVERYWHERE THAT THAT POINTS A FINGER AT THE COUNTY IS JUST.

NOT WISE.

AND SO I'M GOING TO I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR THAT I'M AGAINST THIS FOR THAT REASON.

YOU KNOW, ANYONE? THAT JUDGE IS VERY APPROACHABLE.

PEOPLE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM, SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS, ASK QUESTIONS WHERE THEY ARE OR ANY COMMISSIONER FOR THAT POINT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER.

YEAH. I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS ODD THAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO VOTE ANYWHERE, BECAUSE WE DO IT ALL THROUGH EARLY VOTING.

IT WAS ALWAYS SEEMED ODD TO ME THAT WE CHANGE IT ALL UP FOR ELECTION DAY.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT I'VE.

I'VE HEARD JUDGE EADS SAY THAT HE'S FOR IT.

AND IF OUR IN FACT, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND IF AT LEAST AT ONE TIME AND IF OUR ENCOURAGEMENT CHEERS THEM ALONG, THAT'S GREAT.

I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN IT WHATSOEVER.

I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH, I'LL BE A THIRD.

I'M IN FAVOR OF ENCOURAGING US TO DO WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE ALREADY GAVE US THE RIGHT TO DO.

I'M. I THINK ENCOURAGEMENT NEVER HURTS THAT IT EXPRESSES THE PRIORITIES OF THIS BODY.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BYRD. YES, SIR.

I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF US DRAFTING SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION OR PUTTING TOGETHER A RESOLUTION THROUGH THE ASSISTANCE WITH THE CITY, CITY, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO THEM.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S JUST A COURTEOUS THING TO DO.

IT CAN CERTAINLY BE A COURTEOUS COURTESY LETTER AS A REMINDER.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN HOLLAND.

I FAIL TO SEE HOW VOTING CENTERS ARE GOING TO SAVE MONEY.

WE'VE WE'VE STOOD ON OUR HEAD MAKING IT MAKING IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.

POLLING. POLLING SITES ARE OPEN.

7 TO 7, INCLUDING SATURDAY, AND NOT 7 TO 7 ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

BUT THEY'RE OPEN ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

CALL ME. NO. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILWOMAN.

WHAT'S MY ONE MINUTE'S GOING TO BE SPENT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD IS, AT LEAST FROM THE REQUESTER, THAT IT WAS THIS WAS A WORK SESSION TO ASK FOR A WORK SESSION TO COME FORWARD THAT SAYS, HEY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT VOLT CENTERS AND WHAT IT ALL MEANS AND WHERE THE COUNTY.

ALL THIS INFORMATION CAN BE GATHERED IN A WORK SESSION, BUT WHEN I HEAR THE COMMENTS IN THEIR ONE MINUTE PITCH, IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE DRAFTED RESOLUTION.

I'M IN FAVOR OF A WORK SESSION.

I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF DRAFTING A RESOLUTION WITHOUT HAVING MORE INFORMATION.

YOU KNOW, SAYING TO THE COUNTY, WE THINK WE SHOULD HAVE VOTE CENTERS NOT ONLY IN DENTON BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

I AM IN FAVOR OF A WORK SESSION TO PUT ALL THESE FACTS TOGETHER, TO HAVE A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE COUNTY, TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE, TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THIS. SO, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE.

I DON'T IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT JUST GOING STRAIGHT TO A RESOLUTION.

SO I'M OKAY FOR A WORK SESSION, SO JUST COUNT ME IN AS THAT.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE I NEED TO LEAVE THE REST UP TO YOU.

I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY TOO, BECAUSE I HAVE SOME YES'S AND NO'S FOR SOME DRAFTS AND SOME WORK SESSIONS, BUT I'M NOT.

SO YOU CAN YOU CAN JUST.

THERE IS NO IF IT'S A REQUEST FOR A DRAFT, THAT'S IT'S A WORK SESSION.

WHATEVER FORM THAT TAKES.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN PEOPLE'S MOUTH, BUT THERE'S NOT A SUPERMAJORITY THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO GO FORWARD IN ANY OTHER FASHION.

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SO IT'S A WORK SESSION THAT COMES BACK.

IF IT'S SOMETHING MORE ACTIVE THAN THAT, THEN I DON'T.

I THINK IT FAILS, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

AS A PERSON WHO MADE THIS PITCH, WHAT I ASKED FOR IS I ASKED TO GIVE STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO DRAFT A LETTER.

THAT LETTER, LET ME FINISH.

THAT LETTER CAN COME BACK TO US AND WORK SESSION.

AND FROM THERE, IF THERE'S DIRECTION, WE CAN THEN PUT IT ON AN AGENDA.

BUT I ASK FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT A LETTER.

IN FACT, I BELIEVE I SAID I TRUST STAFF'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT THIS LETTER IN YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE YOU DID NOT SAY IN YOUR IN YOUR IN YOUR COMMENTS YOU SAID THAT.

BUT WHEN CLARIFYING WHAT WE WERE GOING TO.

I'M NOT GOING TO I'M I HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SKIN IN THE GAME.

THE STAFF CAN LOOK AT IT AND COME BACK WITH WHATEVER YOU NEED TO COME BACK WITH IT.

THAT WAY IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO INFLUENCE ON IT.

IT'S WHATEVER YOU HEARD, WHATEVER THE CITY MANAGER HEARD, THERE'S THAT.

COUNCILMAN MCGEE, COUNCILMEMBER MELTZER COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCILMEMBER BYRD ARE IN FAVOR OF WHATEVER YOU HEARD MYSELF, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND AND WELL ARE AGAINST AND COUNCILMEMBER WATTS IS UNCLEAR.

NEEDS MORE INSTRUCTION.

AS FAR AS WHAT WE WRITE.

I DON'T WANT TO AGREE. YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO PUT A POSITION WHEN YOU DIDN'T TAKE ONE SO THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ACCOUNTING.

AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO STAFF TO BRING BACK WHATEVER YOU BRING BACK.

MAYOR, IF YOU'RE OKAY. I'M WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BRING THIS ONE BACK UNTIL DECEMBER.

WHATEVER YOUR TIMING IS, IS YOUR TIME BOOKED UP IN THE.

AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING UNDER STAFF INFORMATION, THE COUNTY HAS SEVERAL FACTS AVAILABLE ON ITS WEBSITES THAT PROVIDE INFORMATION ON WHAT VOTE CENTERS ARE AND THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT THEM.

WE WILL COME BACK WITH A WORK SESSION.

IT'LL BE VERY SIMPLE, CLEAR AND CONCISE AND TO THE POINT BECAUSE WE'LL REITERATE WHAT THE COUNTY IS SAYING.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

NEXT ONE. THANK YOU.

ITEM TWO IS A REQUEST FOR A WORK SESSION ON THE PROS, CONS, AND OPTIONS REGARDING REQUIRING WORKING AIR CONDITIONING AND RENTALS AND PROHIBITING HOA'S FROM DISALLOWING AIR CONDITIONERS. COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER.

WHEN YOU'RE READY AND SAME QUESTION HERE ARE YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WORK SESSION? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S MOSTLY RIGHT RIGHT THERE.

I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO IT.

WE ALL LIVED THROUGH THE MULTIPLE DAY, 170 DEGREE HEAT.

MOST PEOPLE, IF YOU ASK THEM ON, YOU KNOW, JUST RANDOMLY, DO THEY THINK THAT WORKING AIR CONDITIONING IS A REQUIREMENT AND RENTALS WOULD, WOULD TELL YOU THEY ASSUMED IT ALREADY WAS A REQUIREMENT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF THERE IS AIR CONDITIONING IN A RENTAL, IT HAS TO BE WORKING, BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO HAVE IT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SAW THE REPORTING ABOUT THE HOA WHERE PEOPLE WERE DISALLOWED TO PUT IN AIR CONDITIONING UNITS.

SO I'M ASKING FOR A WORK SESSION TO SEE WHETHER WE COULD, COULD OR AND OR SHOULD MOVE TO REQUIREMENTS ON BOTH OF THOSE AND TO HEAR THE PROS, THE CONS, THE OPTIONS, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS? ANY RESPONSE? MAYOR PRO TEM? YEAH.

I THINK GENERALLY WHEN YOU GET THESE KINDS OF TEMPERATURES THAT WE'RE SEEING AND IT BEHOOVES US TO EVALUATE WHAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE IS FOR OUR CITIZENS.

SO I SUPPORT THIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MCGEE.

I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THIS ISN'T GENERATED FROM THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE THAT.

I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, TALKED TO THE TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, THIS THING.

AND THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.

THE MOBILE HOME THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE ARTICLE WAS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY OF A PERSON, NOT A RENTAL.

IT WAS HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY.

HE WAS RENTING, RENTING, RENTING A PAD.

BUT IT WAS HIS PROPERTY.

HE HE BOUGHT A USED MOBILE HOME 23 YEARS AGO.

THE AIR CONDITIONING QUIT WORKING TEN YEARS AGO.

THE FACT THAT THIS CAME TO TO THE FOREFRONT AT THE, AT THE, WITH THE WITH THE WRITING OF THE ARTICLE, I THINK IS JUST I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS WRITTEN WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN, BUT BUT IT'S NOT IT WASN'T AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE IT TOOK TEN YEARS FOR IT TO EVEN COME TO LIGHT.

THE THE PROBLEM WAS, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

SORRY. NO.

OKAY. GOT YOU. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

MAKE YOUR CLOCKS FAST.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'LL BE QUICK.

I'M GOING TO SAY YES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS.

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I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALLOWED TO YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINS SO HE CAN FINISH.

NO, NO. OKAY.

I'LL TRY MY BEST.

WHAT A GUY. ANYONE ELSE? BUT I'M A YES.

COUNCILMAN WATTS. WELL, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR RENTAL PROPERTIES, AND THE REQUEST SHOWS, AND I'M OKAY WITH THE WORK SESSION, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF JUST GOING OVER WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICY IS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE A LEGAL STAFF REPORT BECAUSE HOA'S ARE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST.

PLUS, THE ISSUE THAT SORT OF I THINK GAVE RISE TO THIS WAS BASED UPON SOMEONE OWNING THEIR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY, I.E.

A MANUFACTURED HOME AND LEASING LAND AND HAVING EXECUTED A LEASE WITH CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

SO I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF WHATEVER WE DECIDE.

AND REALLY, THE ONLY QUESTION FOR ME IN THIS IS IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING AND THEY'RE RENTING OUT THE PROPERTY AND THEY LEASE IT WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING, IS THE CITY. DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IT IN IF PEOPLE HAVE LEASED IT IN THE CONDITION? BECAUSE IF IT'S IF YOU'VE GOT IT, YOU GOT TO MAKE IT WORK.

AND I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE 80 DEGREES.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO 80 DEGREES.

THAT'S YOUR TONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, THEN I WILL SAY THIS.

I. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL SITUATION OF THOSE THAT EXPRESSED HARDSHIP.

IT'S YOU HAVE TO KIND OF GO A LITTLE DEEPER AND PUT YOURSELF IN A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

ANYONE RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR TAKE THIS TIME TO SAY, IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING ISSUES WITH YOUR APARTMENT, YOU CAN CONTACT CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THEY'LL COME OUT TOMORROW AND ADDRESS THAT.

IRRESPONSIBLE THIS.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT YOU DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT THE REQUESTER TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION IS AS A FORMER SINGLE PARENT, YOU SOMETIMES CLOSE OFF PART OF YOUR HOUSE AND USE A WINDOW UNIT TO COOL THAT AREA SO THAT YOU CAN HANG OUT SO THAT YOU CAN KEEP YOUR UTILITY BILL LOW, VERSUS A CENTRAL AIR THAT CIRCULATES THROUGH THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND RUNS YOUR BILL UP TO WHERE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN INTERFAITH TO OFFSET THAT.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE THAN WE'RE USED TO AND UNDERSTAND ALL THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND NOT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

HEY, EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD THEIR BILL AND CAN COOL THEIR ENTIRE HOUSE.

SO THERE'LL BE A WORK SESSION.

YEAH. IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER? MCGEE? MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBER.

MELTZER. YES. AND THEN? OH, SHOCKING.

OH, YEAH. YEAH.

YES. I DIDN'T SEE THIS COMING AT ALL.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY? 21 YEARS.

WELCOME. CONGRATULATIONS.

WELCOME TO THE CITY OF DENTON.

THANK YOU. WE WISH YOU WELL.

GLAD TO BE HERE.

AND SO I HAVE AN ELEPHANT.

SO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WE HANDED YOU AN ELEPHANT? YES. ELEPHANT.

THANK YOU. SHE DESERVES ABOUT 25 OF THEM.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS COMING AT ALL.

THANK YOU. WELL, NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. SO CLOSE.

SO THIS WILL.

OH, MAN. THANK YOU.

I DIDN'T KNOW I CAME RIGHT IN.

OKAY, SO AT THIS DINNER HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT WILL BE AT FIVE.

OKAY. BE HERE FIVE. WE DON'T NEED TO CALL A.

THAT WAS A PLACEHOLDER. GOT IT.

OKAY. SO WE'LL SET THE ROOM.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW AT 4:28 P.M., CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE CLOSED MEETING.

[1. Closed Meeting:]

ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING ITEM.

BE ID 231895.

DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072.

SO WE WILL SET THE ROOM.

AND I THINK WE'RE EVERYONE'S HERE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE HERE.

WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

YEAH. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING.

PARDON ME OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

IT IS 630 AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17TH.

SO WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

FIRST THING IS TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS.

FLAG. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

AND THEN I HAVE A FEW PROCLAMATIONS.

[2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]

THE FIRST IS SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK.

SO IF YOU'RE HERE WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR.

YOU CAN MEET ME DOWN AT THE PODIUM.

LOOKS OUT OVER HERE AND THEN.

SO IF YOU COULD THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING.

AND THEN I HAVE A PROCLAMATION.

SO THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

WE ARE OUR DAILY BREAD.

I AM TRICIA BROOKS, DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WITH OUR DAILY BREAD.

I'M JENNA, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.

MY NAME IS ANGELIQUE.

I'M THE TRANSITIONAL CASE MANAGER, AND I'M ALISON GREGORY RICHTER.

I SERVE ON THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. AND SO FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NEVER HEARD OF OUR DAILY BREAD, WHAT DO WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW? DO YOU HAVE A WEBSITE? WE DO. YOU WHAT? YOU TAKE VOLUNTEERS? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE A 24 OVER SEVEN, 365 HOMELESSNESS CARE CENTER FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, HOMELESSNESS OR AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS.

WE HEAVILY RELY ON THE CITY OF DENTON FOR ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT.

WE JUST FINISHED OUR SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH NINTH, SO WE WERE ABLE TO ASK THE COMMUNITY AND CHURCHES TO PRAY FOR US, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A WEEK OF TOURS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR COMING AND JUST SHOWING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE DO IN ORDER TO TRY TO HELP THE HOMELESS.

SO WE ARE SHELTERING, NOURISHING AND PROVIDING WRAPAROUND SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN HELP THEM THROUGH THAT SITUATION AND AFTER. WE ALSO LOVE OUR VOLUNTEERS.

WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE WHICH IS OUR DAILY BREAD DENTON.ORG.

WE ARE GREATLY SUPPORTED BY MANY VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY.

WE LOVE MORE SUPPORT.

THANKS. GOT IT.

THANK YOU. AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN HELPING PEOPLE RE-ACCLIMATE TO THE WORKFORCE.

PARTNERING WITH THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT HERE WITH THE CITY.

SO NOT ONLY MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, BUT ALSO UPSKILLING THEM SO THAT THEY CAN PREPARE TO REENTER THE WORKFORCE, THOSE THAT ARE ABLE OR ARE INTERESTED.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

AND SO I HAVE A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS REMAINS A PRESSING CONCERN IN OUR COMMUNITY, AFFECTING MANY ACROSS DENTON COUNTY AND IN REQUIRING A COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO ADDRESS ITS CHALLENGES.

AND WHEREAS OUR DAILY BREAD HAS BEEN A STEADFAST SOURCE OF SUPPORT, COMPASSION AND RESOURCES FOR OUR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, STRIVING TO PROVIDE PATHWAYS TO STABILITY.

AND WHEREAS, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS OF OUR DAILY BREAD VOLUNTEERS, LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE CITY OF DENTON AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS DEMONSTRATE UNITY AND CREATING MEANINGFUL CHANGE, PROMOTING AWARENESS AND FOSTERING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND AIDING THOSE IN NEED.

AND WHEREAS, SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK, WHICH WAS LAST WEEK, OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH NINTH, 2023, SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMPLIFY THE VOICES OF THE POPULATION, RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF HOMELESSNESS, AND ENCOURAGE SUPPORT OF LONG TERM SOLUTIONS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH NINTH, 2023 AS SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK. IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND.

YOU SLIDE IN AND WE'LL GET A PICTURE HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE DENTON TEACHERS.

HEY, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING.

OKAY. MY NAME IS COURTNEY LOPEZ, AND I AM A MATH SPECIALIST AT PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HERE IN DENTON.

AND WE I AM HERE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF OUR DENTON ISD TEACHERS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

OUR TEACHERS.

TEACH STUDENTS, SUPPORT THEM AND LOVE THEM UNCONDITIONALLY.

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AND WHAT OUR TEACHERS DO MATTERS VERY MUCH EVERY DAY.

EXCELLENT. I'M STRUGGLING HERE.

I WAS SO WHAT A DELIGHTFUL SCHOOL.

I HAD A PLEASURE TO THE PLEASURE TO COME BY AND VISIT WITH Y'ALL AND THE EVER, EVER EAGLES.

YES! THERE YOU GO. YEAH.

FANTASTIC. SO Y'ALL ARE DOING GREAT WORK.

AND YOUR PRINCIPAL REMIND ME IS MISS AARON VARNELL.

SHE'S HERE TODAY. OH, HEY.

HOW ARE YOU? I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU THERE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. SHE'S DOING AMAZING WORK.

SHE'S A PRODUCT OF LIBERTY, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THEN SHE'S BEEN WITH THE ISD FOR A WHILE AND DOING AMAZING THINGS THERE AT THE SCHOOL, AS ALL THE TEACHERS.

THANK YOU. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.

OKAY. AND SO A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS DENTON'S FUTURE STRENGTH DEPENDS ON PROVIDING A HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION FOR ALL STUDENTS.

AND WHEREAS TEACHER QUALITY MATTERS MORE TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT THAN ANY OTHER SCHOOL RELATED FACTOR, AND WHEREAS TEACHERS SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS PREPARING LESSONS, PLANS AND SUPPORTING STUDENTS, AND WHEREAS OUR COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES AND SUPPORTS ITS TEACHERS IN EDUCATING THE CHILDREN OF THIS COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS HASHTAG TEACHERS CAN OR NUMBER SIGN DEPENDS ON HOW OLD YOU ARE, IS A STATEWIDE MOVEMENT SUPPORTED BY MORE THAN 150 PARTNERING BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS COMMITTED TO EVALUATING THE TEACHING PROFESSION AND HONORING THE CRITICAL ROLE TEACHERS PLAY IN THE SUCCESS OF TEXAS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE FIFTH DAY OF OCTOBER 2023 AS DENTON TEACHERS DAY, IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. PICTURE.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO I HAVE A FEW COPIES HERE FOR YOU.

OH, AWESOME. YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

YES.

AND DENTON ARBOR DAY.

IF YOU'RE HERE FOR DENTON ARBOR DAY, IF YOU CAN, COME ON DOWN.

HEY, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU? VERY WELL, THANK YOU.

OKAY. IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING.

HAYWOOD MORGAN, URBAN FORESTER WITH THE CITY OF DENTON.

AND WE'RE HERE TO RECOGNIZE TEXAS ARBOR DAY.

I'M AUTUMN NATALIA.

PROGRAM AND EVENTS MANAGER.

I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR DENTON BEAUTIFUL PROGRAMS INCLUDING TEXAS ARBOR DAY, OUR UPCOMING PLANTING DAY ON NOVEMBER 4TH, AND THE COMMUNITY TREE GIVEAWAY THIS SATURDAY.

COLLEEN FITZPATRICK, SENIOR PARK PLANNER.

AND WHY YOU HAVE IT. SO HOW MANY TREES ARE WE GIVING AWAY? YEAH, SO WE'RE GIVING AWAY 700 TREES AND THEY ARE ALL SPOKEN FOR.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE OUR WAITING LIST OPEN, SO IF YOU WANT TO REGISTER FOR THE WAITING LIST, IF YOU'RE A DENTON RESIDENT, YOU CAN COME AT NOON ON SATURDAY.

AND WE OPEN THAT UP AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF TREES LEFT OVER THAT PEOPLE DON'T PICK UP, SO THERE'S PLENTY TO GO AROUND AND TELL ME.

SO IT WAS A READ. THERE'S ONE OF THE READ TREES.

WHAT IS THAT THAT WE'RE GIVING AWAY. READ.

WHAT IS THAT READ REDBUD.

IS THAT WHAT IT IS? YES, MAN.

SO I GOT IN QUEUE AND EIGHT MINUTES LATER THEY WERE OUT OF THE RED REDBUDS.

RIGHT. IT WAS I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS FAST.

IT WAS, IT HAPPENED.

YES. YEAH.

THEY GO FAST.

YES. IT WAS AWESOME THOUGH.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

OKAY, HERE WE GO.

IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS ALL ACROSS TEXAS, FROM TOWERING PINES TO MAJESTIC OAKS TO MEAGER MESQUITES, THAT MANY TREES, THE MANY TREES OF TEXAS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND PROMINENT FEATURES OF OUR UNIQUE AND BREATHTAKING LANDSCAPE.

AND WHEREAS AS TEXANS, WE VALUE OUR TREES AND THE BENEFITS THEY PROVIDE EVERY DAY, WHICH INCLUDE CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, IMPROVING OUR HEALTH, AND EVEN SAVING MONEY ON ENERGY BILLS.

AND WHEREAS, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO PLANT TREES AND CELEBRATE THEM ON THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EACH NOVEMBER OF TEXAS ARBOR DAY.

AND WHEREAS, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF TEXAS FORESTRY ASSOCIATION, TEXAS FIRST OBSERVED ARBOR DAY IN 1889 AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH FUNDAMENTAL LESSONS ABOUT THE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.

AND WHEREAS TOGETHER WE CAN CREATE A BRIGHTER AND MORE BEAUTIFUL FUTURE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.

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THEY, IN TURN, CAN AFFIRM THE DUTY OF PROTECTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES BY BEING RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF THIS GREAT LAND.

NOW, THEREFORE, I GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE FOURTH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2023 AS DENTON, TEXAS ARBOR DAY.

IF WE CAN GIVE HIM A HAND.

READY. SMILE AND SAY EIGHT MINUTES.

IT'S AWESOME. 700FT.

THAT'S FANTASTIC. GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SURE. APPRECIATE YOU. YES.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

OKAY. AND THEN THE ZETAS.

IF YOU CAN COME UP ANYONE HERE WITH.

WHAT? THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

OKAY. WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M JUST READING THE POST-IT.

DELTA SIGMA THETA.

YEAH, WELL, I'M JUST READING THE POST-IT NOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL. IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING AND WE'LL GO.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS SYDNEY JOLIVET, AND I AM THE CORRESPONDING SECRETARY FOR THE ZETA ETA CHAPTER OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, INCORPORATED.

JUST SAYING. MY NAME IS JORY FOOTE.

I'M THE TREASURER. MY NAME IS CAITLIN BURKE PICKLER.

I'M THE RECORDING SECRETARY.

MY NAME IS CHRISTY MCCARTER, AND I'M A MEMBER.

MY NAME IS MIA VANCE.

MEGAN ANKER.

SO THE ZETA ZETA CHAPTER IS CELEBRATING 55 YEARS OF SERVING THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AND THE DENTON COMMUNITY.

OUR MAJOR FIVE POINT PROGRAMMATIC THRUSTS INCLUDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, INTERNATIONAL AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT, POLITICAL AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT, AND SOCIAL ACTION.

SO WE ARE JUST CONTINUING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY.

AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND BEFORE I GET IN TROUBLE AGAIN, RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY I'M GOING TO SAY THE WHOLE THING RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT. SO IT'S DELTA SIGMA THETA ZETA ZETA 100%.

YOU GOT IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I STAY ON Y'ALL'S GOOD SIDE.

OKAY. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK Y'ALL DO.

Y'ALL DO A TON IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND YOUR VOLUNTEERISM AND JUST ALSO JUST SERVES AS AN INSPIRATION FOR FOR YOUNG LADIES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

OKAY. AND IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. WHEREAS DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, INCORPORATED IS A PRIVATE, NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO AID AND SUPPORT THOSE ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

AND WHEREAS, SINCE ITS FOUNDING IN 1913, DELTA SIGMA THETA REMAINS A PUBLIC SERVICE ORGANIZATION BOLDLY CONFRONTING THE CHALLENGES OF AFRICAN AMERICANS, PROVIDING INITIATIVES IN EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, INTERNATIONAL AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT, AND SOCIAL ACTION.

AND WHEREAS, EXERCISE AND A VISION TO ESTABLISH AND PROMOTE PROGRAMS THAT INCLUDE SUPPORT, SCHOLARSHIPS AND SERVICE TO THE GREATER DENTON AND COMMUNITIES. 19 VISIONARY WOMEN LED THE CHARGE FOR THE CHARTER OF THE ZETA ETA CHAPTER ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, 1968, AND WHEREAS THE DELTA SIGMA ZETA ETA CHAPTER CONTINUES TO PROVIDE IMPACTFUL PROGRAMS ON UNT.

HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? UNG'S CAMPUS, INCLUDING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM WHERE THE MONEY RAISES RESIDES.

PROTECTING PRETTY DIVAS SELF DEFENSE PROGRAM, PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT IS AWESOME.

CAMPUS CLEANUP AND MANY, MANY MORE.

AND NOW THEREFORE I GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 29TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023 AS ZETA ETA CHAPTER DAY.

WE GIVE THEM A HAND AND THANK YOU.

AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO GIVE US YOUR NAME.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THAT'S AWESOME.

I'M SO GLAD YOU MADE IT.

GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE.

OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS EVAN GREEN.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ZETA ETA CHAPTER, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.

WE ARE CELEBRATING 55 YEARS.

IT'S A MILESTONE. THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

WE ARE THE FIRST BLACK GREEK LETTER ORGANIZATION CHARTERED ON OUR CAMPUS.

SO. YEAH.

SO THANK YOU. OUTSTANDING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE OKAY.

AND RYAN ARIAS OKAY.

SO WE'LL I'LL LET YOU IN ON THAT SIDE.

AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE AND SQUEEZE IN A LITTLE BIT.

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WE LOVE EACH OTHER. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S AWESOME. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO FROM NOW ON, THE ANECHOIC, JUST LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS.

OH. YEAH.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

IF WE COULD PLAY THE.

[3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

REVIEW THE PROCEDURES OF ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL, PLEASE.

THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM.

SPEAKERS WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT.

A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME IS EXPIRED.

IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING.

IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND THE SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS.

IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR AN UNSCHEDULED OPEN MIKE REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIKE REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY.

SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS STILL STEVEN DILLENBERG.

STEVEN DILLENBERG.

OKAY. NEXT.

CHRISTINE BRAY, IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

GIVE ME A SEC. I HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE, I BELIEVE.

COULD SOMEBODY SHOW ME HOW TO ACCESS IT? HERE WE GO.

YOU. NO, YOU'RE OKAY.

AND JUST USE THE ARROWS. THANK YOU.

HELLO. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE.

FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, THIS IS A MAP OF DENTON'S CURRENT BUS NETWORK.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT WE LOST MOST OF OUR ROUTES BACK IN 2021, AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH.

THAT PINK ROUTE THERE ONLY RUNS EVERY 43 MINUTES AND ONLY UNTIL ABOUT 5 P.M..

AND THIS IS A PROBLEM HERE IN GREEN IS HALF MILE AND FULL MILE RADIUS FROM DENTON SUPERMARKETS.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT BASICALLY THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN DOES NOT REALLY HAVE BUS OR WALKING ACCESS TO SUPERMARKETS IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE.

ALSO, THAT IS AN AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF JOBS, AND SO PEOPLE REALLY CAN'T ACCESS THAT VIA OUR BUS SYSTEM.

I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST JOBS WHEN THE BUSSES DISAPPEARED, INCLUDING 1 OR 2 PEOPLE WHO BECAME HOMELESS AFTER LOSING THEIR JOBS WHEN THE BUSSES DISAPPEARED.

SO I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF ABUNDANCE DENTON, TO PRESENT OUR PROPOSAL FOR GETTING MORE BUS SERVICE ON THE ROAD.

I BELIEVE YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS IN YOUR INBOX, BUT I WANTED TO COME IN PERSON.

SO HERE ARE TWO ROUTES THAT WE PROPOSE THAT THE CITY OF DENTON COULD MAKE.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ONE OF THEM LARGELY OVERLAPS WITH THAT PINK ROUTE, BUT GETS ACCESS TO RYAN HIGH, AS WELL AS THREE MOBILE HOME PARKS AND THE PINK ROUTE SERVICES A LOT OF CITY SERVICES, AS WELL AS INCOMING AND EXISTING APARTMENTS, THE MALL AND THE BUSINESS AREA DOWN ON LOOP 288.

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THIS IS THE FULL NETWORK THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY ADDING THOSE TWO ROUTES, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE GET A LOT BETTER COVERAGE OF ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES LIKE GROCERY STORES, DOCTOR'S OFFICES, AND SO ON.

SO THE FUNDING FOR THIS COULD COME FROM TRIPS.

TRIPS IS A PROGRAM WHERE DCTA CASHES BACK A PERCENTAGE OF ITS STOCKPILE TO DENTON, AND THAT MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT ON TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE PROJECTS.

I BELIEVE THAT BUYING BUS ROUTES WOULD, IN FACT, COUNT AS A TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE PROJECT.

FOR APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION, WE COULD GET TWO YEARS OF SERVICE ALONG THESE LINES.

6 A.M. TO 8 P.M.

MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

THAT NUMBER DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH DCTA AND THE CITY AGREE TO PAY FOR THESE ROUTES, AND IT COULD BE WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS, DCTA TAKES OVER THE ROUTES AND PAYS FOR THEM ITSELF IF RIDERSHIP TARGETS ARE MET.

SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHY WE NEED SERVICE ALONG THESE ROUTES.

AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS COMING TO LOOP 288.

THAT MAP THERE ON THE RIGHT IS CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING TO THAT AREA OR SORRY, NOT CITY PROJECTS, BUT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING TO THAT AREA.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS AN ENTIRELY NEW MOBILE HOME PARK BEING ADDED TO THE EAST OF ASHLEY OAKS.

IN ADDITION TO THE THREE VERY LARGE MOBILE HOME PARKS THAT ARE ALREADY DOWN THAT CORRIDOR, THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE DOWN MCKINNEY, AND WE'RE ADDING QUITE A BIT OF APARTMENT HOUSING ALONG LOOP 288, APPROXIMATELY 1000 UNITS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

AND $3 MILLION MIGHT SEEM LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS SO MUCH CHEAPER THAN EXPANDING OUR ROADS.

WE ARE DEVELOPING SO MUCH OUT IN THAT AREA THAT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO EXPAND OUR ROADS OR AVOID EXPANDING OUR ROADS SHOULD BE DONE, IN MY OPINION.

FOR EXAMPLE, A MILE OF BONNY BRAY SOUTH OF I-35 COSTS $43 MILLION TO EXPAND.

$3 MILLION, $43 MILLION, AND IT ALIGNS WITH OUR CITY GOALS.

TRANSPORTATION IS CRUCIAL FOR ESCAPING POVERTY.

PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO JOBS.

THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE GROCERY STORE IN ORDER TO HAVE INCOME MOBILITY.

IT IS SO MUCH CLEANER TO COMMUTE BY BUS.

66% OF OUR CITY EMISSIONS ARE TRANSPORTATION.

66%. TWO THIRDS OF OUR EMISSIONS PORTFOLIO IS JUST PEOPLE GETTING AROUND.

AND IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT, WE SHOULD.

PUBLIC TRANSIT IS ALSO KEY FOR VISION ZERO.

THE CITY IS ADOPTING IN THE PROCESS OF ADOPTING A VISION ZERO PLAN WHERE NOBODY SHOULD DIE ON OUR ROADS.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS MUCH SAFER ON THE ROAD THAN PERSONAL CARS.

THANK YOU. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.

I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO.

OKAY, SO WE'VE HAD THE THE CLAPS FOR FOR THREE WEEKS.

I'D ASK YOU AGAIN JUST TO CURTAIL THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO ASK PEOPLE TO LEAVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE TO I HAVE TO ENFORCE THE RULES.

I CAN'T LET THE RULES GO UNCHECKED FOREVER.

RIGHT. WE'VE HAD TWO WEEKS TO EXPRESS YOURSELF, BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD THE MEETING WITHOUT DISRUPTING THEM, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO ASK PEOPLE TO TO BE REMOVED, BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE TO TO IGNORE THE RULES.

SO THAT'S MY ASK.

NEXT PERSON JACOB VIN GREEN, VIN GREEN.

FORGIVE ME IF I SAID THAT WRONG.

SORRY. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

I'M JACOB LINDGREN.

LET ME PULL UP MY. WELL, MY TIME'S ALREADY STARTED, I SEE.

NO NO, NO.

HE'LL RESET IT. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE.

AND ALLOWING US, THE RESIDENTS OF DENTON, TO SPEAK TO YOU, OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THE DEERWOOD AREA AND THE NORTHEAST NORTHEAST DENTON AREA PLAN.

SO JUST TO ORIENT YOU TO THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR DEERWOOD, IT IS ON THE OUTSIDE OF LOOP 288 AND KINGS ROW, AND GENERALLY AROUND HODGE ELEMENTARY. AND THE ROADS I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ARE KINGS ROW AND DEERWOOD PARKWAY AND THE THREE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE CIRCLED HERE.

SO DEERWOOD TRAFFIC IS ALREADY QUITE BAD, AND THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN SHOWS THAT.

AND WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHEN IT'S AT FULL BUILD OUT, THERE WILL BE ADDED 3000 ADDITIONAL TRIPS ON DEERWOOD AND KING'S ROAD.

JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A THOUSAND DAILY TRIPS ON DEERWOOD, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD A 300% INCREASE OR A FOURFOLD TOTAL INCREASE.

SO THAT REALLY MEANS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SCHOOL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

NOW, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT SCHOOL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ARE, I ENVY YOU.

BUT I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES HERE IN A SECOND.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL DAY.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DURING THE ACTUAL SCHOOL TRAFFIC? AM AND PM CONDITIONS THAT I AM A LITTLE FEARFUL OF.

I THINK IT'LL BE A VERY DANGEROUS GRIDLOCK.

AGAIN, BASED ON THE DATA IN THE IN THE TO THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THE ROAD HERE.

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THIS IS REGARDING KINGSVILLE WESTBOUND.

SO TOWARDS THE LOOP WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MORNING IS VERY POOR.

IT'S ALREADY FAILING AND IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE WITH THE WHOLE INTERSECTION ALSO FAILING.

AND YOU CAN SEE CARS BACK UP VERY FAR HERE ON ON KINGS ROW.

SO IN THE MORNING IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET ANOTHER 250 CARS OUT THIS INTERSECTION THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS COMING OUT OF DEERWOOD ONTO KINGS ROAD.

NOW IF WE LOOK LATER ON AT SCHOOL PICKUP, IT GETS EVEN WORSE.

IF YOU START OVER AT THE LEFT HAND CORNER THERE YOU CAN SEE CARS ARE BACKED UP ON KINGS ROAD SUCH THAT CARS GO INTO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS THEM IN THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

YOU TURN ON DEERWOOD.

YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE ACTUALLY A CITY VAN IS PASSING IN THE WRONG LANE ABOUT THE OTHER TWO LANES OF CARS THAT ARE PARKED THERE AND SITS THERE FOR ABOUT HALF AN HOUR EVERY DAY.

PICTURE FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.

YOU CAN SEE CARS AGAIN COMING DOWN.

YOU CAN SEE A SCHOOL BUS DOING THE SAME THING, GOING IN THE WRONG LANE AND GOING AROUND THIS.

TURN ONTO GRANT AND YOU CAN NOW SEE A CAR DOING THIS.

AND NOW THERE'S A CAR COMING THE OTHER DIRECTION IN THE DIRECTION THAT IT SHOULD BE COMING.

SO THIS IS ALREADY A FAIRLY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AND SET OF ROADS, BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT ANOTHER 250 CARS THROUGH HERE AT THIS EXACT TIME.

OKAY. SO AGAIN, BASED ON THE TO THE CARS THAT ARE GOING TO COME THROUGH HERE IS GOING TO DOUBLE DURING THIS TIME, THE CURRENT PEAK AND CARS WERE BACKED UP ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE LOOP.

AND THEY WERE SITTING THERE FOR ABOUT 20 TO 30 MINUTES, COMPLETELY BLOCKING YOUR ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO BREAK THE LAW.

SO I DON'T JUST COME HERE ASKING FOR OR COMPLAINING.

I HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS, POTENTIALLY.

I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT YOU CREATE TWO PROTECTED LEFT TURNS AND A STRAIGHT LANE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU RESTRIPE DEERWOOD, OR FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT THERE CAN BE WAITING LANES AND MOVING LANES, THAT YOU CHANGE THE THREE WAY STOP, OR CHANGE IT TO A THREE WAY STOP AT DEERWOOD, AND THEN FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO GET THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE EXIT ONTO THE LOOP SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME OF THE CARS OUT ANOTHER WAY.

RIGHT NOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE EXIT FOR THESE CARS TO GO, AND THAT'S THROUGH THE INTERSECTIONS I SHOWED YOU.

SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY NEEDS A SOLUTION AND WE REALLY NEED IT NOW BEFORE THIS IS AT FULL BUILDOUT AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND LEAVE OUR HOUSES.

I'M ALSO HERE FOR THE FEW SECONDS I HAVE LEFT TO TALK ABOUT THE NORTHEAST DENTON AREA PLAN, AND I REALLY NEED YOU TO LISTEN TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND WHAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR.

AND IT SEEMS THE CONSULTANT HAS NOT LISTENED TO US.

THEY HAVE LISTENED TO THE DEVELOPERS.

WE'RE INVESTED IN DENTON FOR THE LONG HAUL, SO PLEASE BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DENTON 2040 PLAN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL BECKMAN.

IT, MIKE BECKMAN.

I'M FROM HARTFIELD ROAD, NAMED A PEACEABLE KINGDOM.

MY MOTHER NAMED THAT PLACE.

THIS ENTIRE AREA IS A PEACEABLE KINGDOM OUT IN THE NORTHEAST.

DENTON BECAUSE OF THE OPEN SPACES AND NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND ENVIRONMENT THAT NEEDS OUR HELP TO SURVIVE.

INDEED, I'VE NEVER SEEN DEER AT MY RECENTLY SAW 4 IN 1 DAY.

I THINK THEY WERE CHASED OUT OF THERE BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF MINGO AND LOOP 288.

THE MORE THESE OPEN SPACES ARE DEVELOPED, THE MORE MIGRATORY THE WILDLIFE MUST BE FOR THEIR SURVIVAL.

THIS IS THE MOST ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AREA IN NORTH TEXAS.

WHEN CONSIDERING DEVELOPMENT ANYWHERE ANYMORE, WE MUST CONSIDER A NEW PARADIGM WHAT IS WHO IS IN THE PLACE AND THE IMPACT DEVELOPMENT HAS ON THEM.

BEFORE CONSIDERING ANY REVENUE WE MIGHT BENEFIT FROM.

CERTAINLY THE WISHES OF THE CITIZENS SHOULD CARRY MORE WEIGHT THAN THE WISHES OF THE DEVELOPERS.

LOOKING AROUND OUR CITY, I WONDER IF THAT'S THE CASE.

IN EVERY DIRECTION YOU LOOK IN THE CITY, IT SEEMS LIKE IF THERE IS AN OPEN SPACE, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE BUILT THERE.

EVERYONE I TALK TO IS FED UP WITH.

I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

APARTMENTS IN ALL DIRECTIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

A SENSE OF CLAUSTROPHOBIA SETS IN.

I MYSELF GREW UP IN APARTMENTS OF RENTAL HOUSES.

WE NEVER OWNED A HOUSE UNTIL I WAS ON MY OWN.

THROUGH HARD WORK, PERSEVERANCE, LUCK, AND MY WIFE, WE WERE ABLE TO BUY OUR FIRST HOUSE IN MY LATE 30S.

WHEN I WAS IN MY MID 40S, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN HARTFIELD ROAD.

I RAISED MY FAMILY THERE.

EVEN THEN IT WASN'T EASY, BUT IT HAS BEEN REWARDING.

SO MY POINT IS, WHEN I HEAR ONE OF YOU TALK ABOUT HOW UNAFFORDABLE LAND IS IN THIS AREA FOR MOST PEOPLE.

THUS WE NEED MULTIFAMILY AND TINY LOTS SO EVERYONE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, I CRINGE.

IT WASN'T THAT AFFORDABLE FOR US 23 YEARS AGO EITHER, BUT WE DID IT.

PROPERTY VALUES CHANGE.

NOBODY MADE IT EASY.

WE EARNED IT.

I'M SORRY IF I SOUND LIKE A NOT IN MY BACKYARD GUY, BUT IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT US.

THERE'S AN ENTIRE NATURAL ECOSYSTEM IN THIS AREA THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED AND PRESERVED FOR ALL CITIZENS TO ENJOY.

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AND INDEED THEY HAVE.

THERE'S A HISTORY OF GENERATIONS WHO HAVE MEMORIES OF CLEAR CREEK AND THE CORE LAND, THE POTHOLE, THE BEST FISHING SPOTS, AND JUST BEING A KID ON A BICYCLE WITH A B.B.

GUN SLUNG SLUNG OVER HIS BACK, GOING CAMPING.

THE WRONG KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD RUIN THIS AREA FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD CERTAIN HOUSES IN CERTAIN AREAS, AND NEITHER CAN I.

THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.

WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THERE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING BE BUILT ALL OVER THE CITY IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT AS ECOLOGICALLY AND HISTORICALLY SENSITIVE.

THERE ARE AREAS THAT SHOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE OPEN SPACES.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE THE BASKET BREAD BASKET OF NORTH TEXAS.

ANOTHER CONCERN IS HARTLEY FIELD.

THIS WAS A TRAINING BASE FOR GLIDER PILOTS IN WORLD WAR TWO.

SOME GAVE THEIR LIVES ON D-DAY.

ALAN SHEPARD, THE FIRST AMERICAN IN SPACE, WAS TRAINED THERE.

THIS SHOULD BE PRESERVED AND PROTECTED FOR ITS HISTORICAL VALUE.

IT COULD BE A PLACE OF VALUE FOR WIND RECREATION AND EVENTS.

WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, THESE PLACES DON'T NEED MAJOR DEVELOPMENT THAT EXACERBATES THE PROBLEMS THAT DEVELOPMENT BRINGS WITH THEIR CONCRETE TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE POLLUTION.

WE CAN BE BETTER, WE CAN DO BETTER, AND WE SHOULD.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS ANNE BECKMAN.

MY NAME IS ANNE BECKMAN.

THE CITY OF DENTON'S WEBSITE HAS HAS ALL OF THESE TITLES THAT YOU CAN FIND ON THERE BE CITY, TREE CITY, AND MONARCH CITY.

BUT IS DENTON REALLY AN ENVIRONMENTAL CITY? I DO NOT WANT TO MINIMIZE THE EFFORTS MADE BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THESE INITIATIVES.

I THINK IT'S AMAZING THAT WE HAVE THEM, BUT I DO WANT TO SHED LIGHT ON SOME THINGS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES THAT HAVE OPPOSING EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE ARE ALSO IN PROGRESS TO BEING A BYRD CITY.

THIS PROGRAM INVOLVES ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY IN BYRD EDUCATION, CONSERVATION, PRESERVATION, AND PROTECTING BIRD FRIENDLY HABITATS AND MINIMIZING THREATS TO BIRDS.

THIS QUOTE WAS SOURCED DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY OF DENTON'S WEBSITE.

OKAY. THIS IS A MAP OF THE NORTHEAST DENTON AREA.

AS WE CAN SEE, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT HABITAT TYPES UPLAND FORESTS, FLOODED FLOODPLAIN FOREST, RIPARIAN FOREST, SHRUBLAND, GRASSLAND, FLOODPLAIN GRASSLAND, RIPARIAN GRASSLAND, SWAMP WETLAND AGRICULTURE STREAMS, AND WATER BODIES.

THIS IS OVER 8000 ACRES OF MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED LAND.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BIRDS AND THE BEES AND THE MONARCHS.

THE. THESE BIRD SPECIES.

BALD EAGLES.

EASTERN BLUEBIRDS.

MONARCHS AND BEES, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER SPECIES, UTILIZE THIS HABITAT THAT WE HAVE IN NORTHEASTERN.

THERE. THERE HAS BEEN A DECLINE IN POPULATIONS OF WILDLIFE SPECIES THAT INCLUDES BIRDS LIKE QUAIL AND MEADOWLARKS, AS WELL AS INSECTS LIKE THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY.

BEES AND OTHER POLLINATORS AS THEY THRIVE ON THE DIVERSE PLANT LIFE OF THE GRASSLAND ECOSYSTEM.

ECOSYSTEM SERVICES OF GRASSLANDS.

GLOBALLY, GRASSLANDS ARE ONE OF THE MOST CONVERTED AND LEAST PROTECTED ECOSYSTEMS IN TEXAS.

APPROXIMATELY, APPROXIMATELY ONLY 21% OF THE STATE'S GRASSLANDS ARE LEFT, AND WE LOSE 1 TO 3% EACH YEAR.

THE TALLGRASS PRAIRIE SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE MOST ENDANGERED ECOSYSTEMS IN NORTH AMERICA, AND LESS THAN 1% OF IT REMAINS IN TEXAS.

UM. THESE GRASSLANDS PROVIDE MANY ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.

SERVICES. THEY ARE ADAPTABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGES BECAUSE OF THEIR LONG, DENSE ROOT SYSTEMS. THEY ARE DROUGHT RESISTANT AND STORE CARBON, AS WELL AS CYCLE CARBON BETWEEN THE ABOVE GROUND VEGETATION AND THE SOIL FOR STORAGE.

WHEN THE WHEN THESE GRASSLANDS ARE CONVERTED, THE RICH SOIL RELEASES TONS OF CARBON INTO THE ATMOSPHERE.

NATIVE GRASSLANDS PROTECT THE WATERSHEDS BY INCREASING WATER INFILTRATION AND REDUCING EROSION, HELPING TO SLOW DOWN AND ABSORB FLOOD WATER.

THIS ALSO REDUCES SEDIMENT AND POLLUTION FROM RUNOFF AND INCREASES WATER QUALITY BASED ON SEVERAL ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.

GRASSLANDS HAVE AN ANNUAL GLOBAL ECONOMIC VALUE OF $20.8 TRILLION.

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DIDN'T ALSO HAS A LIGHTS OUT NIGHTS INITIATIVE AND.

SO QUOTED FROM THE DENTON WEBSITE.

DENTON HAS JOINED AN INTERNATIONAL EFFORT TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO REDUCE LIGHT POLLUTION DURING THE FALL AND SPRING MIGRATION.

AWESOME. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MIGRATORY BIRDS THAT PASS THROUGH DENTON.

WE'VE GOT THE FEDERALLY ENDANGERED WHOOPING CRANE, THE RED HEADED WOODPECKER AND THE THE RED KNOT THAT IS FEDERALLY THREATENED.

OKAY. BUT THEN WE PUT ALL OF THESE.

THESE HIGH DENSITY.

HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN ALL OF NORTHEAST DENTON WE HAVE GATEWAY TOWN CENTER RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION.

AND RAN OUT OF TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT TAKES US TO CHARLIE COLLIER.

IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

PRESENTATION. HERE.

ALL RIGHT. CHARLIE COLLIER.

SO LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I SPOKE.

THIS IS A SLIDE FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION I GAVE, JUST SORT OF SHOWING THE CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

SO NOT TO KIND OF JUST KEEP REPEATING WHAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAYING, BECAUSE I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THIS.

SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF HAVE A MORE SOLUTIONS BASED APPROACH HERE.

BUT TEXAS COALITION FOR STATE PARKS, THEY'RE QUOTED WITH SAYING, WITH THE RAPID GROWTH OF TEXAS, WE MUST PROTECT TEXAS'S LAST REMAINING NATURAL AREAS TODAY SO THAT THEY WON'T BE LOST FOREVER TO DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE ALL HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN HOW ECOLOGICALLY IMPORTANT THE GREENBELT CORRIDOR IS.

I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ONCE AGAIN, NOVEMBER 7TH, THAT COMES UP TO VOTE.

PROPOSITION 14 ON THE STATE LEVEL, IT'S A $1 BILLION FUND TO EXPAND STATE PARKS.

THERE IS STATE MONEY TO EXPAND STATE PARKS.

TEXAS NEEDS TO ADD 1.4 MILLION ACRES OF STATE PARK LAND BY 2030 TO KEEP UP WITH CURRENT DEMAND.

I WENT OVER THIS LAST TIME.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT LAKE RAY ROBERTS IS THE MOST VISITED STATE PARK IN TEXAS.

IF YOU LOOK HERE, CIRCLED IN RED IS HARTLEY FIELD.

PRETTY MUCH THE DEVELOPMENT AREA OF NORTHEAST DENTON.

THE OUTLINED GREEN IS LAKE RAY ROBERTS MANAGED LAND.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT PRETTY MUCH BORDERS THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

THE IDEA OF USING STATE MONEY TO EXPAND THAT STATE PARK LAND, TO PROTECT THE ECOSYSTEM, TO BASICALLY ADDRESS ALL OF THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR MONTHS, IT SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER.

I JUST BRIEFLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PATH OF GROWTH.

THIS WAS USED IN THE NORTHEAST AREA DENTON DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS A REASON TO DEVELOP NORTHEAST DENTON.

AS YOU CAN SEE, MCKINNEY, FORT WORTH, DALLAS.

THERE'S DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE MOVING INTO NORTHEAST DENTON.

I LOOK AT THIS AND I SEE THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

I LOOK AT ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I SEE A REASON TO PRESERVE THAT AREA.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY STATE PARKS.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PARKS AT ALL.

IF EVERYBODY IF EVERY STATE LEADER AND CITY LEADER DECIDED TO DEVELOP EVERY INCH OF OPEN SPACE.

AS DEVELOPMENT GROWS, AND AS THE TEXAS TRIANGLE BECOMES ONE OF THE LARGEST METROPLEXES IN NORTH AMERICA, WE NEED TO START PRESERVING NOW WHAT MAKES THESE AREAS SPECIAL? SO THIS IS THE SLIDE I ENDED WITH LAST TIME.

THIS IS THE FINAL SLIDE OF THE NORTHEAST DENTON AREA PLAN.

I ADDED A THIRD OPTION THERE.

THERE'S THE TWO DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A THIRD OPTION, WHICH IS ONCE AGAIN HOW I ENDED LAST TIME WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE NEED ADVOCATES ON A LOCAL LEVEL IF WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROACHING THE STATE FOR FUNDING TO HELP PRESERVE THESE ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AND HISTORICAL AREAS, THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

WE NEED ADVOCACY ON THE LOCAL LEVEL FROM OUR LOCAL LEADERS.

WE'RE KEEPING TRACK.

OF WHO IS ON OUR SIDE.

AND COME ELECTION DAY, OUR BALLOTS WILL BE CAST.

THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.

AND THIS IS A POINT IN HISTORY WHERE ALL OF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY SET A LEGACY FOR DENTON.

[02:10:07]

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS LIAM GONG WAKEFIELD.

HELLO. MY NAME IS LIAM.

I'M HERE TODAY.

NOT SO MUCH TO RESPOND TO, LIKE WHAT THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE SAY AND A LOT OF WHAT THEY SAY.

IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S A TREND I'VE BEEN NOTICING WHEN I'VE GONE BACK TO LISTEN TO A LOT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS IS WHEN SOME PEOPLE COME UP HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A MULTIFAMILY.

I NOTICED SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THAT HAVE REALLY STRUCK ME THE WRONG WAY.

LIKE, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A TIME THAT SOMEONE SAID THAT RENTERS AREN'T NEIGHBORS.

AND NOT EVERYBODY BELIEVES THAT HERE.

I HOPE NOT, AND I HOPE THAT'S A VERY MUCH A MINORITY OPINION HERE IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

BUT THERE IS A, I FEEL, LOOKED DOWN UPON WHEN I HEAR THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S I DOUBT THERE'S ANYTHING YOU, YOU ALL CAN DO BECAUSE LIKE, PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ON HERE ON THEIR OPINIONS.

BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE'RE PEOPLE TOO.

LIKE WE DON'T.

SOMETIMES IT'S OUR ONLY OPTION.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN AFFORD.

LIKE, IF WE COULD BUY A HOUSE, WE PROBABLY WOULD.

BUT I'D LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT'S FROM THE PAST 40 YEARS.

HOUSING COSTS HAVE NEARLY NEARLY DOUBLED OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS.

AND WHILE I AND I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HERE RIGHT THERE, THAT I THINK THE NORTHEAST DENTON AREA SHOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED, AND I LOVE THE STATE PARK PLAN BECAUSE IT PRESERVES OUR HISTORY AND OUR ECOLOGY.

WE DO HAVE TO HAVE APARTMENT LIKE HOUSING AND HOMES FOR PEOPLE TO COME HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO UNIVERSITIES AND A COLLEGE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME HERE LIKE RIGHT NOW.

AND I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IF THERE'S A VACANCY UP, THEY CAN FILL IT RIGHT NOW AND WE NEED PLACES TO BE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE AREAS THAT WHERE WE HAVE AREAS THAT CAN BE REDEVELOPED TO BE DENSER SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPRAWL OUT.

WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE WHERE THEY WANT TO BE, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM IN PLACES WHERE IT'S HARD TO GET AROUND.

AND. WE HAVE AND LIKE WE HAVE IN LIKE THE NICE THING ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN A, HAVING MORE PEOPLE IN A DENSER AREA IS THAT IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE IN ALMOST EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD, THROUGH TAX, FROM TAX, FROM TAXES AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT.

BUT I DO THINK SOMETIMES IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE TO GET.

GET UP HERE AND FORGET THAT WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH PEOPLE HERE, AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIND A HOME AND PROTECT OUR HOMES.

I YIELD THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

TAKES US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THERE'S NOTHING PULLED. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MCGEE.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA.

COUNCILMAN. BYRD.

I SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE.

SECOND. BY COUNCILMEMBER BYRD.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US A REMINDER.

THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS EARLIER.

IT'S BEEN POSTPONED.

SO FIVE A WILL NOT TAKE UP THIS EVENING TAKES US TO SIX A WHICH IS ID 231943.

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2022-2023 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the Health Fund of four million dollars ($4,000,000) for the purpose of funding expenses associated with increased health care costs; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2022-2023 budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023 BUDGET AND ANNUAL PROGRAM OF SERVICES OF THE CITY OF DENTON TO ALLOW FOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE HEALTH FUND OF $4 MILLION.

HI. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MATT HAMILTON, BUDGET MANAGER, HERE TO PRESENT A FISCAL YEAR 2223 HEALTH FUND BUDGET AMENDMENT.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE HEALTH FUND BY $4 MILLION FROM 30,786,653 TO 34,786,653, AND THE MAJOR DRIVING ITEMS ARE THE MAJOR ITEMS DRIVING. THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES INCLUDE AN INCREASE IN PHARMACY CLAIMS, AS WELL AS MONTHLY ADMINISTRATIVE FEES PAID TO UNITED HEALTH CARE FOR OUR STOP LOSS INSURANCE OF ABOUT 1.2 MILLION.

AND WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

[02:15:01]

COUNCIL MEMBER BECK. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I SAW IN THE RESPONSES TO COUNCILOR MELTZER'S QUESTION ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL COSTS.

CAN YOU GO INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL? BECAUSE IT. I GUESS I JUST MISSED HOW IT WASN'T GOING TO INCUR ADDITIONAL COSTS.

SURE. SO IN ADDITION TO LET ME BACK UP A SLIDE, IN ADDITION TO THE INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES, THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASE IN IN REVENUE AS WELL.

SO OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS ABOUT 33.2 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES AND 32.7 IN REVENUE, BOTH OF WHICH ARE ABOVE BUDGETED LEVELS.

AND SO THAT NET AMOUNT OF ABOUT 500,000 WILL BE DISPERSED ACROSS ALL THE FUNDS YOU KNOW, PROPORTIONALLY, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY HAVE.

NOW, IN THE REMAINING CITY FUNDS, ALL OF THOSE HAVE A SURPLUS.

SO THOSE AMOUNTS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ABSORBED IN THE IN THE SAVINGS OF THE BUDGETS OF THOSE FUNDS.

SO IT IS AN INCREASE IN THE EXPENDITURES TO OTHER FUNDS.

BUT IT IS NOT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAKE ROOM, I GUESS, BY LOSING SOMETHING ELSE.

YEAH. THERE WAS ALREADY SAVINGS IN THE PRIOR YEAR'S BUDGET SAVINGS, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 500 K OR SO.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? RIGHT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YES, COUNCILMEMBER.

WHAT'S. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO THIS REPRESENTS A LITTLE OVER 10% INCREASE OF HEALTH CARE COSTS OVER BUDGETED.

WHEN WE SET THAT BUDGETED AMOUNT OF 30,000,786 LAST TIME, WHAT DID WE BUDGET FOR AS THE INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR? IN OTHER WORDS, THAT 30.

30,000,007 86 REPRESENTS A5267 10% INCREASE FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS? I DO THAT PERCENTAGE.

I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR, WE DID IDENTIFY THAT THESE WERE ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE INCREASED AND ADDRESSED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 HEALTH FUND BUDGET WAS THE 30.7 MILLION NEXT FISCAL YEAR, OR IN THE CURRENT 2024 FISCAL YEAR, IT'S 36 MILLION.

SO WE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED BOTH THE PHARMACY CLAIMS AND THE STOP LOSS INSURANCE ITEM IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, THE STOP LOSS FEE THAT WE PAY TO.

IS THAT UNITED? YES.

WE'RE SELF-INSURED.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO PAY AN INSURANCE COMPANY FOR.

JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS.

CORRECT. YEAH. SO FOR ANY CLAIMS THAT ARE OVER $185,000, THOSE ARE 100% REIMBURSABLE TO THE CITY BY UNITED HEALTH CARE. SO WE WE PAY AN INSURANCE PREMIUM SO THAT ANYTHING OVER THAT 185,000 IS CREDITED BACK TO US ON THE BILLS THAT WE RECEIVE.

AND SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THE MONTHLY ADMIN FEE PAID TO UNITED FOR STOP, THAT'S THE FEE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS MONTHLY OR YEARLY INSURANCE PREMIUM, IF YOU WILL, TO COVER ANYTHING OVER 185,000.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YEP. COUNCILMEMBER MELTZER.

YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS A LITTLE BETTER, BECAUSE WE JUST PASSED A BUDGET, AND THIS IS SUCH A SIZABLE INCREASE IN COST.

DID WE? HOW DID WE COME TO BE AWARE OF THIS SCALE, OF AN INCREASED COST? YOU KNOW, IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

YEAH. SO TYPICALLY WE REVIEW AND WOULD BRING THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AT THE SAME TIME AS THE BUDGET ADOPTION.

THIS WAS SOMETHING WHERE BOTH THIS AND THE OTHER TWO FUNDS THAT ALL PRESENT, IT APPEARED THAT THEY WOULD BE CLOSER. NOW, THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE A LITTLE FURTHER OFF THE BUDGETED MARK, BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THEM TOGETHER RATHER THAN HAVE SOME IN SEPTEMBER AND SOME NOW.

SO BUT TYPICALLY WE DO BRING THESE FORWARD AT THE SAME TIME PRIOR TO THE BUDGET ADOPTION.

SO SO WE KNEW THEY WERE COMING AT THE TIME WE APPROVED THE BUDGET BUT CHOSE NOT TO ADDRESS THEM, TO GROUP THEM TOGETHER.

TWO OF THE FUNDS WE WE WERE NOT SURE.

AND AND SO JUST LOOKING AT YEAR END ACTUALS, THOSE FOR RISK AND MATERIALS MANAGEMENT, THOSE THOSE WE WEREN'T SURE THEY WERE VERY CLOSE.

THE HEALTH FUND WE DID KNOW JUST BASED ON THE REVENUE AND THE EXPENDITURES THAT WERE HITTING THE FUND, WE KNEW WE HAD AT THE TIME WE PASSED BUDGET, WE KNEW

[02:20:08]

WE HAD ROOM IN SAVINGS.

SHOULD THAT COME UP? YES. YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE ODD, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, OKAY, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S SO MOVE? COUNCILMAN MCGEE. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATTS.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

LET'S THROW IT ON THE SCREEN.

PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

ITEM SIX B ID 231944.

[B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2022-2023 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the risk retention fund of one million five hundred thousand dollars ($1,500,000) for the purpose of funding expenses associated with increased costs for property insurance claims, vehicle repair claims, and other litigation and legal related expenses; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2022-2023 budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023 BUDGET AND ANNUAL PROGRAM OF SERVICES OF THE CITY OF DENTON TO ALLOW FOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE RISK RETENTION FUND OF $1,500,000.

MATT HAMILTON, BUDGET MANAGER AGAIN HERE TO PRESENT A RISK FUND BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2223.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE RISK RETENTION FUND BY $1.5 MILLION FROM 7,181,798 TO 8,681,798.

THE MAJOR ITEMS DRIVING THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES INCLUDE ATTORNEY LITIGATION FEES, VEHICLE WARRANTY PROGRAM, AND PROPERTY INSURANCE.

AND I'LL JUST NOTE OF THE OF THE THREE, IT'S REALLY THE LITIGATION FEES THAT ARE DRIVING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFICULT TO FORECAST AND BUDGET FOR.

BUT WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN THE LITIGATION FEES THIS LAST YEAR.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'LL JUST SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE DECISIONS ARE MADE HERE, RIGHT BY AND LARGE, FALLS SQUARELY ON OUR SHOULDERS.

AND IT'S SOMETHING I'M CONSTANTLY MINDFUL OF WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS.

AND THAT'S TAXPAYER MONEY THAT'S GOING TOWARDS THOSE ENDS.

AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING IT OUT AND IT'S A GOOD WAKE UP CALL.

IT'S A GREAT POINT IN TIME, KIND OF A NOTE FOR FOR THOSE THAT ARE CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THEIR TAXPAYER TAXPAYER MONEYS HAVE BEEN SPENT SPENT.

SO AND YOU DON'T WE CAN'T CONTROL THOSE OUTCOMES.

RIGHT. THERE'S SOME WE CAN NOT AVOID GETTING IN.

BUT THERE'S SOME WE WE.

RUN INTO AND THAT HAS CONSEQUENCES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

POINTING THAT OUT THAT IS THAT IS NOT EASY BUT IT'S IMPORTANT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

COUNCILMAN BYRD A MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCILMAN HOLLAND.

SECOND MOTION. OKAY.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BYRD.

SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND ANY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

YES, IF I COULD, I INADVERTENTLY FORGOT TO MENTION IN THE WORK SESSION THAT I'M GOING TO NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM AGENDA ITEM E, SO IF IF YOU KNOW, I'LL SIGN THE PAPERWORK EITHER NOW OR AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

OKAY. YEP. WELL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE CONCLUDING ITEMS, YOU CAN, I JUST SAID.

YOU CAN LEAVE EARLY. I'M JEALOUS.

OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM C6C ID 231947.

[C. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2022-2023 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the Materials Management fund of one million dollars ($1,000,000) for the purpose of funding expenses associated with increased cost of various city warehouse goods including items such as utility equipment, office equipment and supplies, and technology equipment; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2022-2023 budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023 BUDGET.

ANNUAL PROGRAM OF SERVICES ON THE CITY OF DENTON TO ALLOW FOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MATERIAL MANAGEMENT FUND.

$1 MILLION EVEN.

MATT HAMILTON, BUDGET MANAGER, HERE TO PRESENT THE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT BUDGET AMENDMENT.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT FUND BY $1 MILLION FROM $16,723,822 TO $17,723,822.

AND THE MAJOR DRIVING ITEM.

[02:25:01]

THIS IS RELATED TO INVENTORY THAT IS PURCHASED BY THE WAREHOUSE AND SPECIFICALLY RELATED MOSTLY TO UTILITY.

LARGE UTILITY PURCHASES OF EQUIPMENT THAT HAVE LONGER LEAD TIMES AND ARE MORE EXPENSIVE TO STOCK.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, SO IN THE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD ON THE FIRST ITEM, YOU KNOW, AND THE SECOND ITEM, WE HAD ISSUES OF HARD TO BUDGET FOR AND HARD TO GET HARD TO NAIL DOWN EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON.

BUT FOR SOME OF THESE ITEMS, I BELIEVE WE SAID WE DID A, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY A 10% YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE FOR A LOT OF THESE. BUT NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 18 MONTH, 24 MONTH.

ARE WE ARE WE BUDGETING ADDITIONAL INCREASES? WE DID.

IN FACT, WE INCREASED THE COST OF GOODS SOLD BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY OVER $1 MILLION IN THE 2024 BUDGET TO ADDRESS THE LONGER LEAD TIMES.

OKAY. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM, I MOVE APPROVAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE. SECOND.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM D ID 231928.

[D. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Techline, Inc., for the purchase of insulated and multi-conductor underground distribution cables for Denton Municipal Electric; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (RFP 8284 - awarded to Techline, Inc., for one (1) year, with the option for four (4) additional one (1) year extensions, in the total five (5) year not-to-exceed amount of $20,000,000.00). The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (5 - 0).]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH TECH LINE INC FOR THE PURCHASE OF INSULATED AND MULTI INSULATED AND MULTI CONDUCTOR CONDUCTOR UNDERGROUND DISTRIBUTION CABLES.

GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MARIA NIKKI, ELECTRIC ELECTRIC ENGINEERING SUPERVISOR, BRINGING FORWARD AN RFP THAT WE SENT OUT FOR UNDERGROUND CABLE TO SUPPLY 15 AND 25 KV PRIMARY, ALSO OUR 600 VOLT INSULATED SECONDARY CABLE.

THIS BID WAS SENT OUT.

WE HAD TWO RESPONSES.

WE HAD TECH LINE AND MENA HOLDINGS.

THIS CONTRACT IS A REPLACEMENT FOR A CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE FOR NTA OF 18 MILLION.

THIS CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE IN DECEMBER.

LET'S SEE HERE.

HERE'S A TABLE FOR ESTIMATED SPEND.

WE ESTIMATE TO SPEND AROUND 3.6 MILLION THIS PAST YEAR.

WE DID SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE SPENT ABOUT 4.3.

AND THIS HAD TO DO WITH THE LEAD TIMES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SPEAKING ABOUT.

AND WE RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT WITH TECH LINE FOR AN NC OF $20 MILLION.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNT. MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SORT OF DOUBLE DOWN ON THE QUESTION I JUST ASKED A SECOND AGO.

IF WE WERE AT 4.3, THEN WHY AREN'T WE AT 4.3 ON THE TABLES? IF WE THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT WAY THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S KIND OF THE SAME WAY WE DO WITH OTHER ITEMS. SO I EXPECT ONE YEAR TO BE HIGH AND THE NEXT YEAR TO BE LOW.

SO THE YEAR BEFORE WAS 1.6.

I EXPECT THIS YEAR TO BE THE SAME.

NEXT YEAR IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCILMAN WATTS. MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND.

MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS PHOTO ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 7 TO 0.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM, ITEM E.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER WATTS HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.

IT'S SIX E ID 231931.

[E. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with CBS Mechanical Services, Inc., dba CMS Mechanical Services, Inc., for all HVAC labor, materials, tools, equipment, and supervision for various City buildings and to assist with renovations, remodels, and maintenance of existing HVAC systems for the Facilities Management Department; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (RFP 8294 - awarded to CBS Mechanical Services, Inc., dba CMS Mechanical Services, Inc., for one (1) year, with the option for four (4) additional one (1) year extensions, in the total five (5) year not-to-exceed amount of $7,000,000.00).]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH CBS MECHANICAL SERVICES, INC.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. TOM GRAHAM, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND FLEET.

WE ARE ASKING FOR.

EXECUTION OF.

HVAC SERVICES FOR SEAMLESS MECHANICAL FOR $7 MILLION.

WE HAVE 206 BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH ONE POINT 5,000,000FT², WITH VARIOUS HVAC EQUIPMENT THROUGHOUT, AND ALL SORTS OF CLIMATE CONDITIONING NEEDS FOR

[02:30:01]

EACH LOCATION.

WE HAVE A RANGE OF 1.5 TON TO 180 TON COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL UNITS, A VERY WIDE RANGE OF SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT.

THE SERVICES WILL INCLUDE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS AS NEEDED SERVICE CALLS AND INSTALLATION OF NEW UNITS THROUGH OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I KNOW THAT I KNOW IN QUESTIONS TO STAFF, WE RESPONDED TO COUNCILOR MELTZER'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE.

THE SORT OF RELATIVE SYNERGIES OF USING A LARGE COMPANY.

DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE? AND I WISH I'D ASKED THIS BEFORE.

I JUST THOUGHT OF IT. DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR CRUDELY BALLPARK WHAT WE EXPECT THE COST MIGHT BE? HAVE WE GONE WITH 4 OR 5 COMPANIES TO SATISFY OUR DIFFERENT HVAC NEEDS, AS OPPOSED TO ONE LARGE COMPANY THAT CAN SERVICE ALL OUR NEEDS? DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT THE SYNERGY LEVEL IS? YEAH. WELL, ACTUALLY, US MECHANICAL IS ALREADY A SMALL BUSINESS.

IT IS NOT A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER.

SO THEY SERVICE THE DFW AREA.

SO THEY ARE ONE OF THE SMALLER COMPANIES.

OTHER LARGER COMPANIES DID BID ON THIS PROJECT OR CONTRACT AND THEY WERE TOO EXPENSIVE AND OR COULDN'T PROVIDE THE REQUIRED SERVICES.

SO THIS SMALL BUSINESS DID WIN THIS BID.

BUT I GUESS, OKAY, I HAD PART OF IT WRONG.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY.

I GUESS I WAS LOOKING MORE AT THE WHAT WAS THE SYNERGY OF GOING WITH ONE COMPANY VERSUS MULTIPLE COMPANIES TO SATISFY THE DIFFERENT HVAC NEEDS? I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MANY BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE A BAG OF CATS, BUT BUT WHAT WHAT ARE THE DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR? WE SAVE 2% 5% BY GOING WITH ONE COMPANY.

NO ESTIMATES THERE. AND THOSE THREE COMPANIES, TWO LARGE COMPANIES AND ONE SMALL COMPANY WERE THE ONLY BIDDERS ON THIS PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MELTZER.

YES. THANK YOU.

AND YOU DID PROVIDE A RESPONSE THAT MAYOR PRO TEM ALLUDED TO AS TO WHY THERE WAS WHY THERE WAS ONLY ONE BIDDER.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

WOULD YOU MIND SORT OF SHARING AGAIN WITH THE PUBLIC WHAT? WHY? THIS WAS THE ONLY LOCAL BIDDER THAT WAS QUALIFIED FOR WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE.

BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE THE TENOR OF THE QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT WOULD HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE ALL OF OUR HVAC UNITS.

WE HAVE A WIDE RANGE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL UNITS.

SO WHEN YOU NORMALLY SEE A HVAC COMPANY LOCALLY, THEY MAY ONLY DO RESIDENTIAL AND NOT COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN BY HAVING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES, WE RUN INTO A LARGE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.

I THINK THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION EARLIER TOO, ON THE DOCUMENTATION, I CAN ONLY SPECULATE AS WHY OTHER COMPANIES DIDN'T BID ON THIS.

WE HAVE SUBMITTED A REQUIREMENT THAT WE GET A 30 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME AND A ONE HOUR ON SITE RESPONSE SO WE CAN MAINTAIN OPERATIONS.

WE KNOW IN THE SUMMER HERE IT GETS PRETTY, PRETTY BUSY WITH HVAC UNITS, AND IF WE DO NOT PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN OUR CONTRACTS, WE MAY HAVE A 2 TO 3 DAY TURNAROUND TIME WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS, WITH THE WITH THE CONTRACTORS.

SO TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE EFFECTIVE SERVICES FOR THE CITY, WE'VE PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN.

THEREFORE, SOME OF THE OTHER SMALLER BUSINESSES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT ENDEAVOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. THANK YOU.

IT THE CONTRACT SAYS FOR ALL HVAC.

DOES THAT MEAN ALL? I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THERE'S NOTHING.

THERE'S NOTHING DONE IN HOUSE.

IF ANYTHING IS TOO HOT OR TOO COLD, THE FIRST CALL YOU MAKE IS TO CBS.

NO, SIR. WE HAVE ONE EIGHT LICENSED HVAC TECHNICIAN ON STAFF, AND OUR FACILITIES MANAGER IS A LICENSED HVAC CONTRACTOR.

THEY ARE OUR FIRST RESPONSE.

THEY GO OUT AND DO THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT.

AND IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T HANDLE IN HOUSE, WE THEN WE MAKE THE CALLS TO THE CONTRACTOR TO COME AND RESOLVE THE ISSUE.

BUT ONE PERSON FOR ONE POINT 5,000,000FT² OVER 100MI² JUST DOESN'T CUT IT.

SO WE DO NEED THAT CONTRACTOR SUPPORT TO MAINTAIN EFFECTIVE OPERATIONS FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION. OH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM, I MOVE APPROVAL.

COUNCILWOMAN MELTZER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S AS CLEAR AS IT CAN BE, RIGHT? ONE, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO BIDS.

RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S THE PROCESS.

AND OUR EVALUATION OF THE PROCESS IS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, WHICH IS HOW IT'S DESIGNED TO BE.

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SO WE DON'T GET TO PICK HOW THAT SHAKES OUT.

RIGHT. AND SO BUT WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS HOW WE WRITE THOSE CONTRACTS.

AND, AND ON BEHALF OF OUR 1900 EMPLOYEES THAT ONLY HAVE TO BE WITHOUT HEAT OR AIR FOR FOR 30 MINUTES AROUND ISH.

RIGHT. YOU GOT TO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE THE MINDFULNESS THAT GOES INTO MAKING SURE THE RIGHT SIZE PEOPLE AND QUALIFIED PEOPLE ARE THERE TO TO TAKE CARE OF OUR BECAUSE OUR WORK DOESN'T STOP.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S CRITICAL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

LET'S VOTE ON SCREEN.

AND THAT PASSES 6 TO 0 ONE ABSTENTION.

THAT TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS.

[7. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

ANYONE HAVE CONCLUDING ITEMS? MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE TO.

I WILL REMIND FOLKS THAT TWU IS HAVING THEIR BOO AT THE U.

ON THURSDAY ON OCTOBER 19TH, AND SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR KIDDOS TO THAT.

I GUESS YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ADULTOS TO THAT TOO.

AND THEN ON THE FOLLOWING DAY, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 20TH IS HAVING THEIR CELEBRATION OF SCIENCE WHERE THEY BRING IN OUTSIDE SPEAKERS TO SORT OF JUST CELEBRATE THE ENTIRE FIELD OF SCIENCE AND ESPECIALLY THE IMPACTS ON T.W.

AND UUA. OKAY, COUNCILOR MELTZER, I'M JUST SHARING THAT.

I SAW ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA THAT GEYSER PALOOZA IS THIS WEEKEND.

YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS TO IT, AND THEY'LL RECOGNIZE THE MUSIC.

APPARENTLY ON INDUSTRIAL STREET SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, ANOTHER DENTON FESTIVAL.

ANOTHER FESTIVAL. UH.

I GET IT NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD.

YEAH. WE LOVE OUR FESTIVALS HERE IN THIS TOWN.

UM, I WANT TO REINFORCE OUR QUAKERTOWN PROJECT THAT WE STARTED.

WE'RE JUST ADDING ADDITIONAL LAYERS TO OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR COMMUNITY IN REGARDS TO GOING ON OUR ONGOING RECONCILIATION PROCESS FOR QUAKERTOWN.

SO WE HAVE AN ENTITY CALLED THE DENTON BLACK FILM FESTIVAL INSTITUTE.

THEY ARE GOING TO PUT ON A FREE COMMUNITY FILM SCREENING ON OCTOBER THE 21ST, AND THE DOORS OPEN AT 330 AT THE TRIANGLE MALL.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A PART OF RAISING FUNDRAISER FOR THIS QUAKERTOWN DOCUMENTARY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO I AM GOING TO BE THERE, AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL MAKE A DECISION TO COME IN AND AND JOIN US ON THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOMETHING CALLED RISING THE HALL OF NEGRO LIFE IN STEPS OF FAITH, AND THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR DONATIONS TO GO TOWARDS THIS QUAKERTOWN DOCUMENTARY.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON GETTING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE SITTING ON QUAKERTOWN PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, AND SO FOR US TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE ANCESTORS OF THESE FOLKS WHILE WE CAN, WE GIVE OUR PEOPLE FLOWERS WHILE WE CAN.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE SATURDAY AT 330, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE MALL TO ATTEND THIS FREE SCREENING.

AND THEY ALSO SAID IT'S A BRING YOUR OWN QUAKERTOWN PHOTOS.

SOME OF YOU ALL, OR WHOEVER'S LISTENING MAY ASK A GRANDPARENT OR SOME SOMEONE THAT WAS AROUND AT THAT TIME TO GIVE UP THEIR PHOTOS. THEY'RE GOING TO ADD THAT TO THE DOCUMENTARY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY. ANY ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CONCLUDING ITEMS. COUNCILMAN. MCGEE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MISS BYRD, I APPRECIATE YOU LIFTING THAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HEARD LAST WEEK, BUT HUGHES VAN ELLIS, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS UNCLE RED, MADE HIS TRANSITION ON MONDAY.

I BELIEVE HE WAS 102 YEARS OLD.

HE WAS ONE OF THREE SURVIVING PEOPLE FROM.

FROM THE MASSACRE IN TULSA IN 1921.

HE WAS 102 YEARS OLD.

SO YEAH, GOD BLESS HIM.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU LIFTING UP THE QUAKERTOWN.

I JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY BABY COMING UP ON MONDAY, WHO TURNS NINE YEARS OLD.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CELEBRATING WITH THE FAMILY THIS WEEKEND.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

SO SPEAKING OF WHICH, BUDDY BABY, COME DOWN.

WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO.

WE'RE OUT OF HERE, SO.

OH, GET YOUR IPAD AND YOUR HEADPHONES.

SO I THINK I WAS REMISS IN SAYING ARTS AND JAZZ FEST.

JUST EVERYONE TO PUT THAT ON.

I THINK I MISSED THAT LAST TIME AND IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

BUT JUST IN CASE, I WANT TO WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT AND THANK ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

THOSE THAT HELP ME WITH NATIONAL NIGHT OUT DAY OF AND OFFICER BECKWITH AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO THAT WAS AWESOME.

SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE AND ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PUT ON EVENTS.

HAD A BLAST AND GOT TO TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THIS SATURDAY THERE'S A MIRACLE LEAGUE GAME AT EVERS PARK, SO THAT'S PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES PLAYING BASEBALL.

SO I'M GOING TO GO OUT AND WATCH THAT AND PARTICIPATE, HOPEFULLY THROW OUT THE FIRST PITCH, HOPEFULLY NOT BOUNCE IT IN.

AND THEN MY MIDDLE SCHOOLER WON HER STUCCO ELECTION.

SO SHE'S THE STUCCO PRESIDENT.

SO THAT WAS AWESOME. SHE SHE TOOK SOME ARROWS AND THAT ONE.

BUT ALL'S WELL THAT ENDS WELL.

IT'S IT'S ROUGH OUT THERE.

AND THEN TETRAPAK AND PETERBILT HAD THEIR FAMILY DAY.

SO THAT WAS REALLY NEAT TO SEE IF YOU WERE OUT THERE OVER THE WEEKEND.

SO THAT WAS NEAT TO SEE ALL OF THEM.

AND THE TRUCK PARADE RAISED A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR UNITED WAY.

THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT TURNED OUT AND DONATED.

I MEAN, REALLY, AGAIN, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT EVENTS.

WHAT A GREAT EVENT THAT WAS AND GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE LIKE 50 TO 54 TRUCKS IS AMAZING.

AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY A SHOUT OUT TO MY BUDDY MAYOR AND IN ROANOKE, SCOOTER, THEY HAD THEIR WESTERN DAYS AND HE WAS SO KIND TO HAVE US OUT AND GIVE US A TOUR OF THEIR CITY FACILITIES AND SHOW US WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND JUST KIND OF PICKED UP SOME IDEAS.

LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE FAMILY EVENTS THAT WE DO HERE.

SO I STOLE SOME IDEAS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME JUST KIND OF GOT THE FELLOWSHIP WITH A FELLOW MAYOR.

SO THAT WAS REALLY NEAT. SO I WANT TO LET HIM KNOW I APPRECIATE HIM VERY MUCH.

AND AT 743, THAT'LL CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S MEETING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.