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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.
[WORK SESSION]
TODAY IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17TH, 2023.IT'S 3 P.M., SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
FIRST THING WOULD BE CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY. I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON CONSENT.
ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION.
OH, YES. AND JUST FOR THOSE TRACKING ALONG, AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE THIS EVENING THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS WE ONLY HAD ONE ITEM A ON THE PUBLIC HEARING, HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM S TO 3-0002A HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
SO WE'LL GO STRAIGHT INTO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
BUT BACK TO OUR AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE THIS EVENING JUST IN CASE THAT TAKES US TO.
OUR FIRST WORK SESSION, WHICH IS ITEM A.
[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Facilities Master Plan.]
RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD DISCUSSION.GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.
MY NAME IS TOM KRAMER, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND FLEET.
WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GO THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN HERE.
OUR BACKGROUND, THE CITY OF DENTON OWNS A TOTAL OF 206 BUILDINGS, 136 STORAGE AND SUPPORTING, AND 70 ADMINISTRATIVE WITH NO UNIFORMED OCCUPANCY STANDARDS. THE CITY IDENTIFIED A NEED TO ANALYZE CURRENT SPACE UTILIZATION OF THE CITY ASSETS COMPARED TO FUTURE OPERATIONAL NEEDS.
OUR PURPOSE WAS TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OF FUTURE RENOVATIONS OR NEW CONSTRUCTION OF CITY FACILITIES, AND PROVIDE A GAP ANALYSIS TO DEFINE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS AND NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS AT CITY FACILITIES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR OBJECTIVES.
CONSOLIDATION OF FACILITIES, STAFFING AND BUILDING CONDITION DATA INTO ONE STRATEGY OUR FUTURE STRATEGY WITH PROJECTED FUTURE SERVICE GROWTH AND APPROPRIATE FACILITIES REQUIREMENTS THROUGH 20 2040.
HERE WE HAVE OUR GAP ANALYSIS, AND YOU'LL SEE OUR CURRENT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR OUR 70 OCCUPIED ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES IS 446,789. AND WE ARE USING ALL OF THAT SPACE CURRENTLY.
OUR SOLUTION TO GAIN IMMEDIATE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO SOLVE THE GAP IS TO RENOVATE CITY HALL EAST WITH OUR NEW OCCUPANCY STANDARDS, AND THIS WOULD BE MOVING TECH SERVICES TO WHERE AIR IS AND AIR MOVING TO THE SECOND FLOOR THROUGH RENOVATIONS.
WE ARE GOING TO NEED AN ADDITIONAL 41,000FT².
OUR WEST SIDE SERVICE CENTER CONSTRUCTION, WITH AN ADDITIONAL 20,000FT² OF OPERATING SPACE, AND A MUNICIPAL COMPLEX WITH 35,000FT² AT THE END OF THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IS REQUIRED OR SHOULD BE REQUIRED THAT WE DO A AN ADDITIONAL FACILITIES ASSESSMENT AS THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF THE CITY CHANGES.
SO WE CANNOT ASSUME THAT THE PLAN TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE PLAN IN FIVE YEARS.
SO WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS ASSESSMENT EVERY FIVE YEARS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ON TRACK.
FROM THE MASTER PLAN AND THE GAP ANALYSIS, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE HAVE WILL GET US SLIGHTLY PAST THE FIVE YEAR MARK, AND THEN WE'LL REQUIRE FUTURE PLANNING FROM THAT ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE HOW WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE THE GAP IN THE FUTURE.
HOWEVER, TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT SPACE DIFFERENCE ON THE GAP IS THAT AS BUILDINGS REACH THEIR END OF USEFUL LIFE CYCLE, AS MOST BUILDINGS DO, AND IT REQUIRES RENOVATION, WE WOULD RENOVATE THAT SPACE WITH OUR NEW OCCUPANCY STANDARDS AND HELP SOLVE SOME OF THAT GAP WITHOUT NEEDING TO BUILD NEW, NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ACQUIRE NEW ASSETS.
WE'RE MOVING TO OFFICE STANDARDS.
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AND THEN WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF DENTON.IN OUR NEW OFFICE STANDARDS, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING NATURAL LIGHT KITCHEN ACCESS, LACTATION ROOMS, MOBILITY, COMFORT, EFFICIENCY, DECOMPRESSION ROOMS, INCLUSIVE RESTROOMS, ERGONOMIC FURNITURE, AND HEIGHT ADJUSTABLE WORKSPACES.
FROM THE MASTER PLAN, WE HAD A SUITABILITY INDEX.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED 31 OF THOSE BUILDINGS OF THE 70IN THE SUITABILITY INDEX.
OUR SOLUTION AND IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, WE'VE LISTED IN FOUR PRIORITIES.
NUMBER ONE IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING.
WE'RE RENOVATING CITY HALL EAST FOR TECH SERVICES AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
AND AGAIN THIS WILL PROVIDE US 20 YEAR GROWTH IN EACH SPACE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.
PRIORITY TWO IS WE'RE GOING TO BE RENOVATING THE SERVICE CENTER.
THE NEW BUILD AND DEPARTMENT SYNERGIES AND SPACE STANDARDS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.
VERY TENTATIVE. AND PRIORITY THREE IS A CITY HALL.
AND THEN PRIORITY FOUR IS OUR WEST SIDE SERVICE CENTER.
IT'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE BUILD, AND DEPENDING ON THE GROWTH RATE OUT THERE IS WHEN WE WOULD BUILD THIS BUILDING AND THIS WILL HOUSE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SERVICE THE EXPANSION ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY.
THE SERVICE CENTER WILL MAINTAIN THE VERY SIMILAR ADJACENCIES WITH THE PARKS AND REC, WITH THE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT, STREETS AND TRAFFIC SUSTAINABILITY, WATER UTILITIES, WATER METERING.
WATER UTILITIES. LAB AND PUBLIC LAB.
TECH SERVICES AND FIBER AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WOULD NOT CHANGE.
BUT IT'S GOOD TO NOTE ON HERE THAT THE ADJACENCIES ARE APPROPRIATE SO NOBODY WOULD BE RELOCATING.
A FLEET SERVICES TO SERVICE THE PARKS, VEHICLES AND THE TRANSFER STATION VEHICLES ON THE WEST SIDE.
THE WATER UTILITIES, LAB AND STREETS AND TRAFFIC WILL BE OUT OF THAT SERVICE CENTER.
AND THEN IN OUR NEW MUNICIPAL COMPLEX IS WHERE WE GAIN OUR MOST EFFICIENCIES.
AND MOST OF OUR SYNERGIES IS WE WOULD BRING ALL THESE INTO ONE, ONE OFFICE SPACE OR ONE BUILDING.
IT WOULD BE FINANCE, PROCUREMENT, INTERNAL AUDIT, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY SECRETARY, THE CITY ATTORNEY, MARKETING, COMMUNICATIONS, STRATEGIC SERVICES AND HUMAN RESOURCES ALL UNDER ONE ROOF. OUR NEXT STEPS IS IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR OCCUPANCY STANDARDS ON ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATIONS.
I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE CLARITY AND THE ANALYTICAL PROCESS THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH.
IF THAT WERE TO PASS, WHAT IS THE INTENTION FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE EXISTING SENIOR CENTER? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET DOES THAT COMPRISE AND COULD THAT CONTRIBUTE TOWARD, YOU KNOW, A COMPLEX MUNICIPAL COMPLEX? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. SO THE SENIOR CENTER, LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER FACILITIES HERE, IS A BUILT TO PURPOSE BUILDING.
SO IT WOULD REQUIRE PLANNING FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE IF THEY'RE GOING TO RE UTILIZE THAT FOR EITHER OVERFLOW AT THE SENIOR CENTER OR ANOTHER ASPECT OF THEIR OPERATION. AS FOR OFFICE SPACE, BECAUSE IT'S BUILT A PURPOSE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING TO RENOVATE THAT SPACE FOR OFFICE USE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAD A SIMILAR I HAD THE SENIOR CENTER QUESTION.
SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.
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AND OUR PRIOR DISCUSSION FOR CITY HALL WEST WAS SOME LEVEL OF PERSONNEL IN THERE AS WELL.BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION.
SO SO THE CITY HALL WEST IS AGAIN A MULTIPURPOSE SPACE.
CURRENTLY IT IS UNINHABITABLE TO ANY PERSONNEL FROM THE FROM THE IT WAS BEFORE ME ERIE STORM ERIE.
GO AHEAD. SO THE BACKUP ANSWER THAT TALKED ABOUT THE STAFFING THAT WOULD GO THERE, THEY'RE IN THE SAME LIKE TOM MENTIONED, A BUILT FOR PURPOSE BUILDING THERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER. SO IF THE BOND PROPOSITION PASSES, WE WOULD LOOK AT RELOCATING PARK STAFF OVER HERE WHO WOULD OPERATE THE PROGRAMING OF THE CITY HALL WEST BUILDING.
BECAUSE WE HAVE PARKS ADMINISTRATION OVER.
AND THE SIMILAR ANSWER FOR THE CIVIC CENTER.
YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF ODD PERSONALITIES.
THAT ONE, I UNDERSTAND GOT THE SPECIAL EVENTS GROUP THAT WORKS OUT OF THERE, THE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM THAT OPERATES OUT OF THERE, AND THEN THE CIVIC CENTER STAFF WHO JUST RUNS THE DAY TO DAY MEMBERSHIPS, THE CEMETERY PROGRAM.
YEAH I UNDERSTAND, SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT.
THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER WATTS? THANK YOU. MAYOR. ON THE BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT HERE BEFORE THE NEED FOR THE NEW SERVICE CENTER CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE OF VARIOUS ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT BUILDING.
RENOVATE IT FOR ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO. THE SERVICE CENTER WOULD BE REBUILT.
YEAH. THE SERVICE CENTER IS GOING TO GET A NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW BUILDING.
IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I MISSED? NO RIGHT HERE, SIR, ON PRIORITY TO THE SERVICE CENTER.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW BUILD.
WE WILL BE RENOVATING CITY HALL EAST AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL FEES FOR CITY HALL? WE WILL REQUIRE RENOVATIONS.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE OLD SERVICE CENTER BILL? THE OLD SERVICE CENTER IS GOING TO BE TORE DOWN AND REBUILT IN THE TO THE CODES THAT WERE ISSUED FOR IT IN THE SAME PLACE.
ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN MCGEE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS JUST A GENERAL QUESTION STATEMENT ISH.
SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE PROJECTING OUT FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN 20 YEARS.
BASED OFF OF THE JOINT MEETING WE HAD WITH DISD COUPLE COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
IN 25 YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE 3600 EMPLOYEES.
PROJECTIONS ARE EXPECTED TO GROW FOR THE NEXT 75 YEARS.
ARE WE ONLY PROJECTING TO 20 FOR FOR FINANCIAL REASONS? ANY REASONS. WE'RE NOT GOING BEYOND THAT.
YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THE QUESTION.
THE FURTHER YOU HOLD IT OUT, THE WEAKER IT'S GOING TO BE.
SO TO TRY TO PROJECT STAFFING NEEDS UP TO 70 YEARS WOULD NOT BE THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IDEA.
AND THAT'S WHY EVERY FIVE YEARS WE GO BACK TO THE TABLE TO KEEP THAT DATA CLOSE AND REFRESHED, SO THAT WE KNOW IF OUR 20 YEAR IS TRENDING DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE DID OUR ASSESSMENT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.
SO OFTENTIMES THIS THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE IN A LONG TIME.
IF YOU DO IT EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TREND THAT DATA TO MATCH THE GROWTH.
OKAY. AND I WASN'T NECESSARILY THINKING ABOUT STAFF.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT MORE SPATIALLY SPATIAL NEEDS.
RIGHT. SO MORE STAFF MORE SPACE.
SPACE WISE, WE BUILD OUR SPACE STANDARDS OR OUR NEEDS OFF OF THE STAFFING LEVELS.
OKAY. KNOW, YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT MOVIE FIELD OF DREAMS. IF WE BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS THINKING, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD.
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OH. I KNOW HOW TO DO IT, BUT.HELLO, EVERYONE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE BACK.
I WAS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT BUILDING, THE ONE THAT'S OVER ON WOODROW.
YES. I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN HERE ANYWHERE.
OR IS THERE GOING TO IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT WITH THAT DOWN THE ROAD? IS THERE IS THAT CONNECTED TO ANY FUTURE TYPE OF UPDATES OR EXACTLY WHAT DO THEY DO IN THAT, IN THAT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT BUILDING? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR HEALING OFFICE OUT OF THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR TECHNICIANS ORIGINALLY START THEIR DAY AT.
THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 2014, I BELIEVE.
OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING FOR FACILITIES, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.
THERE'S A WAREHOUSE COMPONENT THERE THAT WE KEEP ALL OF OUR EXTRA SPACE FOR.
SO IT'S IT'S LITERALLY IN THAT, THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING.
YEAH. SO SOME, SOME ITEMS ARE STORED IN THAT BUILDING.
THE THINGS THAT THE TECHNICIANS USE DAILY, THEIR TOOLS, THEIR FAUCETS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IF IT'S BUILDING SPECIFIC, EACH BUILDING HAS AN AREA FOR ATTIC STOCK.
WHEN THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED, THOSE ITEMS ARE PLACED IN THAT CLOSET THAT WE CAN USE.
COUNCIL MEMBER. WHAT? JUST CLEAR.
CLARIFICATION QUESTION ON SLIDE FOUR.
AND THEN WEST SERVICE CENTER CONSTRUCTION.
SO BASED UPON WHAT THE CURRENT SERVICE CENTER THAT WE HAVE THAT'S BEING TORN DOWN AND REBUILT ON THE SAME LOCATION, WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS THAT THAT IS A SERVICE CENTER RENOVATION.
ALL RIGHT. SO THEN THE WEST SERVICE CENTER IS A TOTALLY NEW BUILDING SOMEWHERE WEST.
CORRECT. THAT'S THE SERVICE CENTER.
AND HAVE HAVE WE HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS NEW SERVICE CENTER? HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S BEING TORN OR RENOVATED.
SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BE STANDING, SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BE.
BUT THAT WEST SERVICE CENTER IS A NEW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S IT'S A FUTURE PLAN.
IT'S LIKE PUTTING A DOT ON A MAP.
GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE I GOT CONFUSED.
AND WHEN I SAW THE WORD RENOVATION, I THOUGHT, OKAY, SO PART OF IT WILL BE TORN DOWN.
PART OF IT WILL STILL BE MAINTAINED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR MELTON, MAYOR PRO TEM.
ARCHITECTURAL HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE O'NEIL FORD EXISTING CITY HALL.
SO CAPITAL WILL BE RUNNING THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
IT'D BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR THEM.
HAPPY TO GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU SHORTLY AFTER THIS, BUT I WOULD BELIEVE SO.
MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO. WHEN WE ARE RENOVATING IN PLACE, A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OUR SERVICES ARE OUT OF THE SERVICE CENTER.
DO WE HAVE FACILITIES CAPACITY TO RUN AT 120% OVERAGE IN OUR OTHER BUILDINGS WHILE WE'RE RENOVATING THE SERVICES CENTER? YES.
A LOT OF THAT'S PARK STREETS TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE.
SO THERE'S OPERATIONAL PLANS TO STORE THEIR EQUIPMENT AND GIVE THEM ALTERNATIVE SPACE ELSEWHERE.
AND THERE'S ALSO CONVERSATIONS AS WHEN WE RENOVATE, DO WE PHASE IT IN.
SO SOME OF THE OCCUPANTS ARE NOT DISTURBED THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
AND THEN WHEN THAT CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, WE MOVE THEM OVER AND DO THE OTHER PORTION.
SO IT'S AN ONGOING PLAN WITH CAPITAL AND THEY HAVE THE THE GUIDANCE ON THAT.
NO, I THINK THAT WAS SUFFICIENT FOR NOW.
I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER.
COUNCILMAN. BYRD. I'M JUST NOTICING THAT PICTURE OF COLLEGE STATION.
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CITY HALL ON YOUR.AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THIS SOME TYPE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL INDOCTRINATION? IT IS OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN OUR CITY.
I JUST LIKE TO SEE A NICE CLEAN BUILDING WITH SOME FRESH GRASS.
IT LOOKS GOOD AND I THINK EVERYBODY CAN APPRECIATE THE STRUCTURE THERE.
YES, EVERYBODY IS APPRECIATING THE STRUCTURE.
I MENTIONED THIS AS A NICE I HAPPENED TO BE AT A&M MOVING MY KID IN THIS SUMMER, AND I HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY THIS BUILDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SITTING IN A PARK LIKE SETTING.
AND IT STRUCK ME AS A VERY BEAUTIFUL QUALITY BUILDING WITH NATURAL LIGHT AND ARCHES, WELL DESIGNED AND WELL ARCHITECTURE WISE, JUST REALLY WELL DONE. AND IT'S A THREE FLOOR, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE.
AND SO TOM OF COURSE PUT IT IN THERE.
IT'S REALLY NICE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY NICE IF YOU WOULD KIND OF PUT DENTON, TEXAS CITY HALL ON THERE TO REALLY HELP OUR PSYCHE, OUR PSYCHE, ON SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENVISION VERY NICE FOR US.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT ON THE RENDERINGS.
JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP. ARE WE SPATIALLY CURRENTLY? ARE WE THE HUNDRED AND 17% THAT I ASSUME THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE AIRPORT? THE HUNDRED AND 17% IS JUST FOR CITY HALL.
WE HAVE OCCUPANCY RATES FOR OTHER BUILDINGS.
SOME BUILDINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER IN OCCUPANCY, SOME ARE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE ADJACENCIES AND THE SUITABILITY, YOU CAN'T JUST ASSUME THAT BECAUSE ONE BUILDINGS MAY BE AT 85%, THAT YOU CAN JUST MOVE PEOPLE IN BECAUSE IT MAY BE A BUILT TO PURPOSE FACILITY.
DO WE KNOW WHAT GROWTH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OUT AT THE AIRPORT? IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN.
IT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED AS AN ISSUE THROUGH THEIR STAFFING PROJECTIONS PROVIDED BY THE AIRPORT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, SO WE BELIEVE THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE THERE FOR THEM TO EXPAND. STAFFING WISE.
DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY MORE LAND OPPORTUNITIES OUT BY THE AIRPORT, LIKE CITY OWNED LAND? I'M GONNA LET CHRISTINE ANSWER THAT OR RYAN.
RYAN WOULD KNOW. IT'S LIMITED, BUT I'LL LET THEM ANSWER THAT.
THERE IS LAND BACK BEHIND THE AIRPORT.
SO A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY IS WHAT WE WOULD BE UTILIZING TO BUILD THE WEST SIDE SERVICE CENTER.
AND THEN DID MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC OWNS A PORTION OF LAND OUT THERE TOO.
OKAY. BUT ALL THE LAND THAT YOU HAVE, YOU DO HAVE A PLAN TO USE IT ALL.
CORRECT. OKAY. I WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE.
THANK YOU. IT KIND OF CAME TO MIND.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND WAS ASKING, BUT TOM IS ONE OF OUR NEWER EMPLOYEES.
HE'S BEEN HERE FOR SIX, SEVEN MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS, WELL EXPERIENCED IN FLEET AND FACILITIES AND HAS TURNED IT AROUND COMPLETELY LOOKING AT WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE, OFFICE SPACE STANDARDS, HAVING A FACILITY ASSESSMENT SO WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT CONDITION IT'S IN AND THEN WHAT WE NEED.
THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT CITIES FORGET TO DO SOMETIMES.
SO HE'S ONE JUST DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
BUT ALSO, I THINK YOU'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE HOW WELL WE ARE PLANNED AHEAD SO THAT YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU'RE HERE IN FIVE, TEN YEARS, YOU'LL SAY, GOOD JOB, GRASSHOPPER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN HALLER HOW MUCH PROPERTY IS AVAILABLE? I KNOW THE THE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS, HAS MOVED OUT OF WHAT USED TO BE THE GUN RANGE, HOW MUCH HOW MUCH PROPERTY IS OUT THERE AND IS THAT USABLE? THE GUN RANGE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMEDIATE.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT MAY BE BETTER TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY COME IN AND DO THAT.
BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
THERE'S THAT SPACE ON THE CORNER.
AND THEN THERE'S ROUND NUMBERS 200 PLUS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I HAVE JUST ONE THOUGHT.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING, IF YOU COULD BE SO KIND AS FUTURE TO NOTE THAT WE WERE ACCOUNTING FOR THE CHAMBER AND DISCOVER DENTON AND THAT OFFICE SPACE THAT THEY REQUIRE.
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EXPECT THEM TO GROW.SO JUST MAKING SURE WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE SPACE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED.
AND THEN MAYBE IT'D BE GOOD TO TO HAVE A CADENCE TO REVISIT THAT LEASE OR, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE THAT'S THE AS WE REVISIT THE LEASE, THAT'S THE CHECK IN POINT TO SEE WHAT THEIR GROWTH NUMBERS ARE.
BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU FACTORED THAT IN TO YOUR YOUR ASSESSMENT.
EVERY OCCUPANT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WITH THE RESPECTIVE GROWTH RATES WERE ACCOUNTED FOR.
AND AND WE WILL PROBABLY LOOK AT THAT.
OKAY. YEAH. AND SO IT'S JUST A IT'S NOT OURS TO MANAGE.
BUT JUST SO I HAVE KIND OF A VISUAL REMINDER THAT THAT IT'S THAT IT'S CHECKED OFF.
AND THEN MR. CITY MANAGER, I DO WANT TO BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH ANY DESIGN DISCUSSIONS, OBVIOUSLY I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MATURE.
BUT THEN TO I JUST IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
HISTORICAL ASPECTS HAVE MANY FACES.
RIGHT. AND O'NEIL FORD, CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE.
THERE'S AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY.
HISTORY. ALL THOSE THINGS REQUIRE DILIGENT DELIBERATIONS.
SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RUSH BACK WITH ANYTHING ABOUT HISTORICAL ASPECTS WITHOUT A HEALTHY CONVERSATION, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ENTIRE HISTORY IS MEMORIALIZED AND CAPTURED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT'S ABOUT AS DELICATE AS I CAN GET.
BUT FOR ANYBODY THAT'S NOT SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THAT MAYOR'S WALL AND CITY MANAGER WALL, WE THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE REPRESENT ALL 151,000 PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYBODY.
UH, LIVED LIFE THE SAME AND HAS THAT SAME FONDNESS.
DENTON IS A GREAT CITY, BUT IT'S UNDENIABLE THAT MY FOLKS MOVED HERE IN 70 AND COULDN'T LIVE.
ON OAK STREET. THE OTHER SIDE.
RIGHT. SO WHEN WE REFLECT FONDLY ON HISTORY.
WE. WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S CHALLENGES BAKED IN THERE.
AND SO I JUST SAY DON'T RUSH BACK WITH A WITH AN ANSWER FOR THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE FEELS WELCOME, EVERYONE FEELS HEARD.
AND WE HAVE A DIVERSE APPROACH TO THAT.
AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME DOING AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION.
IT'LL BE FANTASTIC, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE RUSH INTO, HOPEFULLY.
AND THEN I HAVE IF I COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND JOIN YOU.
CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'VE BEEN HIDING FROM US FOR SEVEN MONTHS.
SO WE HAVE AN ELEPHANT FOR YOU TO REMEMBER YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION TO US.
WE SURE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
YOUR EXPERTISE YOU BRING TO THE TABLE REALLY VALUABLE ASSET.
AND IT'LL SERVE NOT ONLY THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY WELL, BUT IT ALSO SERVE OUR TAXPAYERS WELL.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B WHICH IS ID 231601.
[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the creation of a City of Denton Streetlight Criteria Manual, proposed amendments to the Denton Development Code (DDC), and streetlight luminaires for use in residential developments.]
RECEIVE REPORT HOLD DISCUSSION, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CREATION OF A CITY OF DENTON STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE STREETLIGHT LUMINARY LUMINARY LUMINARIES FROM FOR USE IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
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GIVE US JUST A MOMENT TO GET OUR DISPLAY SET UP.WE'LL BE RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT.
NOTHING COULD GO WRONG WITH THAT.
THAT'S MAKING ME NERVOUS. THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME JOIN YOU TODAY.
FIRST OFF, WE'D LIKE TO REVIEW SOME OF THE STREETLIGHT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
SO FIRST, TO TALK ABOUT STREET LIGHTING.
HISTORICALLY THEY WERE GOVERNED BY THE DENTON.
WHEN THEY WERE MOVED OVER, THERE WERE THESE FOUR REQUIREMENTS LISTED FROM SECTION SEVEN 11.6.
BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL STREETLIGHTS SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE GENERAL HEALTH AND WELFARE OF OUR CITIZENS.
WE ALSO HAVE A REQUIREMENT B THAT ENCOURAGES UNIFORMITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE STREETLIGHTS THAT ARE CHOSEN MATCH THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. REQUIREMENT C REQUIRES A STREETLIGHT THAT DOESN'T EMIT ANY LIGHT ABOVE A HORIZONTAL PLANE. SOMETIMES THESE ARE REFERRED TO AS DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTS.
AND THEN REQUIREMENT D IT SAYS ALL STREETLIGHT FIXTURES SHALL BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED TO MINIMIZE OR ELIMINATE THE DIRECT VISIBILITY OF THE LIGHT SOURCE SO THAT THEY DO NOT CAST OR REFLECT LIGHT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
IT'S INTENDED TO MINIMIZE THE LIGHT TRESPASS, BUT THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT IN LEGAL OR PHYSICAL TERMS IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE.
AND SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WE PROPOSE A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE.
FIRST, IN PARAGRAPH 711 SIX C, WE ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THE ADDITION OF THE WORD NEW SO THAT ALL NEW STREET LIGHTING FIXTURES SHALL BE FULL CUT OFF.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'LL EMIT NO UPLIGHT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEW LUMINAIRE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE DENT DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO RETROFIT ALL OF THE ACORNS THAT ARE ACORN STYLE LIGHTS THAT ARE INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S A COST TO THAT.
AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE COMPLIANT FROM A GIVEN DATE ONWARD.
THIS MANUAL WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ALL NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
ALL STREET LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DENTON, AND WOULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO BOTH STAFF AND DEVELOPERS ON HOW AND WHAT TO INSTALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE CONSISTENCY, SAFETY AND UNIFORMITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
NOW. THE STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED IS BASED IN NATIONAL.
I'M SORRY, THE AMERICAN NATIONAL STANDARDS INSTITUTE OR ANSI EIGHT.
THIS IS A WELL RESEARCHED AND ORGANIZED DOCUMENT PUT TOGETHER BY EXPERTS IN THE FIELD.
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NOW THE MANUAL ITSELF WOULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO DEVELOPERS AND STAFF ON INSTALLATION MATERIALS, PLACEMENTS, AND HELP REMOVE A LOT OF THE CONFUSION THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITH STREETLIGHTS.AND LASTLY, WE RECOMMEND HERE AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT A NEW LUMINAIRE THAT WOULD BE USED IN ALL NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT PRODUCES NO UPLIGHT.
THIS PARTICULAR LUMINAIRE IS RECOMMENDED ALSO BECAUSE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR CURRENT DIMMING SYSTEM THAT IS USED TO REDUCE LIGHT DURING BIRD MIGRATION SEASONS, AND ALSO AT TIMES WHEN WE'VE HAD CUSTOMERS CONCERNED OR COMPLAIN ABOUT TOO MUCH LIGHT IN THEIR HOME.
WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO THAT REMOTELY, LIGHT BY LIGHT OR IN GROUPS WITH THIS DIMMING SYSTEM.
AND SO AS WE EVALUATED DIFFERENT POTENTIAL LUMINAIRES, THOSE WERE TWO OF OUR TOP CONCERNS.
AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THIS PARTICULAR LUMINAIRE.
WE CAN GET IT IN A VARIETY OF COLORS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH DARK GRAY.
AND IT HAS A MATCHING METAL POLE THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED ON A CONCRETE BASE.
THE BASE IS FLUSH WITH THE GROUND, IT DOESN'T STICK UP ABOVE GROUND AND THEY BOLT ON TO THAT.
SO THIS IS THE THE LUMINAIRE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND.
AND WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL PAUSE AND ASK.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS UP TO THIS POINT? GREAT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, COUNCILMEMBER MELTZER.
YEAH. AGAIN. SORRY I DIDN'T THINK OF THIS BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT IS THIS INTENDED FOR NEW BUILDS WHERE TRENCHING WOULD BE REQUIRED? AND ARE THERE ANY ADVANTAGES TO CONSIDERING LUMINAIRES OF SIMILAR SPECS THAT DON'T REQUIRE TRENCHING AND THAT OPERATE ON SOLAR AND BATTERY? SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, WOULD HAVE WE CONSIDERED LUMINAIRES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY SOLAR POWERED AND WIRELESS AND DON'T REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO INSTALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ELECTRICAL? WE HAVE HAD ONE COMPANY APPROACH US AND PRESENT SOME.
WE DO HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT COMPANY.
PROVIDED IF IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO SHARE.
NOT THAT SOLAR AND LIGHTING IS NEW, BUT THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
AND SO THEY'RE JUST QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT I'M SORRY.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET.
SOME OF IT OBVIOUSLY IS WILL PEOPLE BE OKAY WITH THE ESTHETICS MAINTENANCE IF IT'S NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO OUR ELECTRICAL SYSTEM? DOES DME MAINTAIN IT? IS THIS A VENDOR ONLY MAINTAINED SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S VERY SELF CONTAINED? WHAT'S THE BATTERY LIFE AND DISPOSAL COSTS? THEY DO USE BATTERIES AND OF COURSE SYSTEM COSTS.
THERE'S THE QUESTION OF ARE THEY DIMMABLE.
WOULD THAT BE AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP WITH THE CITIZENS OR NOT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS OUT THERE WITH REGARD TO THAT SYSTEM.
AND THEN ALSO OWNERSHIP IF THEY DON'T TIE DIRECTLY TO DME SYSTEM IS DME THE RIGHT ONE TO OWN THAT? IS THIS A CONTRACT? IS THIS A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE JUST REALLY DON'T KNOW YET.
SO IS THAT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE INVESTIGATING THESE QUESTIONS OR THERE ARE TOO MANY QUESTIONS.
THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT INVESTIGATING IT.
IF WE WERE TO INVESTIGATE IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A PILOT.
THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ACROSS THE CITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S JUST MORE QUESTIONS THAN WE WERE READY FOR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HOLLAND.
THE LUMINAIRE THAT YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE HERE, WHICH IS WHICH IS VERY NICE.
LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THIS THAT'S ON DISPLAY HERE, WHICH LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE LIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT UP IN THE IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TRYING TO RETRO THE OLD THE OLD LOOK OF STREET LIGHTS.
AND THAT'S A TERRIBLE DESCRIPTION OF THAT.
HELP ME, HELP ME FOLLOW ALONG THERE.
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WHAT WHAT IS WHY IS THAT ON THE TABLE THERE THAT'S ABOUT TO FALL OVER? I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU.WE DID KIND OF LEAD THE WITNESS IN THAT REGARD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO I'LL EXPLAIN THE DEMONSTRATION.
GOT TO HAVE THE GOT A MICROPHONE.
MAYBE YOU CAN ROLL THE TABLE TOWARDS YOU OKAY.
YEAH. HOLD ON. OH THERE WE GO.
THAT'S MUCH BETTER, I DON'T KNOW.
HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS.
SO THESE ROOFS AS THEY'RE CALLED BY THE MANUFACTURER.
IF I WAS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
LOOKS LIKE THAT PROBABLY LOOKS A LITTLE MORE FAMILIAR.
SO THESE ARE THE CURRENT ACORN STYLE LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THIS IS AN ACRYLIC REFRACTIVE GLOBE, AND SO IT'S DESIGNED TO SPREAD LIGHT IN ALL DIRECTIONS.
NOW THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT IS THERE SOME WAY TO REDUCE THE LIGHT THAT GOES UPWARD.
AND ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE WANTED TO SHOW IS THAT THESE CAN BE SWITCHED OUT.
IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY MUCH TO DO IT.
AND. THESE METALLIC ROOFS BE INSTALLED INSTEAD.
NOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS GLOBE IS REFRACTIVE, IT STILL EMITS SOME UP LIGHT.
WHEN WE ASK THE MANUFACTURER WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, THEY SAID IT'S UNTESTED.
THEY THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER.
AND SO WE'VE GUESSED A RANGE OF 20 TO 70% REDUCTION.
BUT THERE IS SOME SOME REDUCTION IN THAT.
AND SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS THAT WAS PROVIDED.
THE EXPECTED COST TO REPLACE ALL OF THESE THROUGHOUT THE CITY WOULD BE ABOUT $2 MILLION.
A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT IS JUST PAYING FOR THE ROOF ITSELF.
AND THEN THERE'S THE LABOR WOULD TAKE ANOTHER 1 TO 2 YEARS.
WE JUST FINISHED THE LED RETROFITS.
THAT CLEARS IT UP FOR ME. THANK YOU.
OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I WILL START FROM HERE AND LEAD THAT.
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FOR THESE HATS CAME OUT OF THE CRC MEETING.
WHERE WERE THE ROOFS? YEAH, HATS ARE CUTE TOO, BUT THE ROOFS WERE WERE BROUGHT FORWARD.
CONCEPT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THAT COMMITTEE.
SO THEY'RE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL.
THE DO DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON WHEN WE'RE LIKELY TO KNOW WHAT.
WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT WHAT A NUMBER IS THAT WE CAN REASONABLY TELL FOLKS.
SO YOUR QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD THE ACTUAL REDUCTION BE? WHEN WOULD WE KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL REDUCTION WOULD BE? YEAH, WE WE DON'T RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COMMISSIONED THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A COST OR NOT, BUT THEY HAVE THE LIGHTING SENSORS REQUIRED AND THE BASICALLY THE EQUIPMENT REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE LIGHT AT DIFFERENT ANGLES AND HOW MUCH THERE IS.
THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE MANUFACTURER SO WE CAN ASK.
BUT THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, OKAY, THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.
AND THEN BACK TO THE PRIMARY PRESENTATION.
I MEAN, I WOULD SAY BEFORE I LEAVE, SOMETHING NORTH OF ZERO IS IS ALWAYS PREFERRED TO ZERO.
SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S BETTER THAN NOTHING AS LONG AS IT'S AFFORDABLE.
BUT BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STREETLIGHT CRITERIA MANUAL, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR DIRECTION ON APPROVING THE CHANGES SO THAT WE REFERENCE THAT.
BUT DOES THE CRITERIA MANUAL EXIST YET? SO WOULD WE BE REFERENCING IF WE APPROVED IT? WOULD WE BE REFERENCING A DOCUMENT THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET?
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SO RIGHT NOW THE MANUAL HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROCESS OF SELECTING A LIGHT, THE MANUAL RIGHT NOW IS IN DRAFT FORM BASICALLY WAITING ON WHICH LIGHT ARE WE GOING TO SELECT.WE'D LIKE TO APPROVE IT AT THE SAME TIME.
WELL WHAT DO WE TELL DEVELOPERS TO INSTALL.
JERRY FELDMAN ENGINEERING MANAGER JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THOUGHT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU GUYS TODAY IN THE WORK SESSION.
SO THAT WILL BE A FINALIZED MANUAL.
THANK YOU. AND THEN I HAVE TWO TO HOPEFULLY BRIEF QUESTIONS.
I THINK THE BACKUP SAID THERE WAS ABOUT 3500 LIGHTS.
SO THEIR THEIR DUTY CYCLE IS STILL GOING TO BE 95% OR SOMETHING.
LIKE WHAT WHAT WAS THEIR DUTY CYCLE.
SO FOR WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DUTY CYCLE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BRIGHTNESS LIFETIME OKAY OKAY.
THAT TOOK ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO DO.
AND THE LIFESPAN FOR MOST LED LUMINAIRES, INCLUDING THE ONES WE HAVE, IS ABOUT 20 YEARS.
THOSE 3500 LIGHTS ARE 3500 LIGHTS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
UNLESS WE CHANGE DDC TO SAY NEW.
IF THE CHANGE TO PARAGRAPH C IS ACCOMPLISHED AND WE SELECT A NEW LIGHT, THEN MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DDC, KEEP OUR EXISTING LIGHTS AND AND BE COMPLIANT WITH OURSELVES.
AND THAT WAS MY LAST QUESTION.
HOW ARE WE DEFINING NEW? IS IT NEW TO A LOCATION OR A NEW DEVICE? OR HOW ARE WE DEFINING NEW? SO THE CURRENT INTENT, ALTHOUGH WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO TO DIRECTION, BUT THE CURRENT INTENT WAS PICKING A DATE RIGHT NOW.
THE GOAL WOULD BE JANUARY OF 2020 FOR ALL DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME THROUGH APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR I'M SORRY, I'M FORGETTING THE NAME.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT IT IS.
WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE WELL INTO THE BUILD PROCESS RIGHT NOW, AND IF WE WERE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, EITHER HALF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE THE NEW LIGHTS AND HALF WOULD HAVE THE OLD. SO BY PICKING A DATE AND HAVING IT BE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE APPROVAL ONWARD, THEN A DEVELOPMENT STARTS WITH THE NEW LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING'S UNIFORM AND CONSISTENT.
THAT'S THAT'S THE INTENT RIGHT NOW.
AND BUT IF I COULD JUST ASK FOR SOME CLARITY IS AS A, AS A LIGHT BREAKS IN, IN A RESIDENTIAL OR WHEREVER DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN THE NEW LIGHTS.
AND SO OVER TIME IT WILL SLOWLY TRANSFORM INTO THE NEW LIGHTS.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT LAST LONE ACORN LIGHT JUST FORLORNLY SITTING THERE IN 20 YEARS.
I APPRECIATE YOU RESTATING THAT, BECAUSE I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW.
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO AS THINGS BREAK ALONG THE WAY? WITH THESE 20 YEARS, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN A STOCK OF THE ACORN LIGHTS AND REPAIR PARTS UNTIL A CERTAIN DATE.
IF WE DECIDE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING OUT TO A NEW STYLE, WE CAN.
OTHERWISE THEY MAY CONTINUE IN BASICALLY A MAINTENANCE MODE INDEFINITELY.
AND SO I KNOW THAT'S NOT A GREAT ANSWER, BUT THAT'S THAT'S A DECISION WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IS AT SOME POINT, DO DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THESE TO SOMETHING NEW. AND, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? ARE WE GOING TO DO IT NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD, OR ARE WE GOING TO DO IN MASS ALL OF THE LIGHTS AT ONCE? AND SO THOSE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW HAS REALLY JUST BEEN TO TRY AND GET OURSELVES COMPLIANT MOVING FORWARD.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK.
UNLESS WE CHOOSE TO CHANGE OUR OUR CODE TO WHOLESALE REPLACE THE FIXTURE.
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HOPEFULLY WE'LL ADDRESS IT BEFORE THEN.ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER BARRETT? JUST CLARIFICATION HERE.
I SAW TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTS ON THE SCROLL OR I SAW ONE THAT LIGHT RECOMMENDED.
OR IS THAT LIGHT AND THAT LIGHT.
ARE WE PURCHASING THIS TOGETHER OR IS IT THAT LIGHT ONLY OR THAT LIGHT ONLY? WHAT DECISION DO WE HAVE TO MAKE? SO THE DECISION IS WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS LIGHT, OR IF IF THE COUNCIL JUST THINKS THAT'S HORRIBLE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER LIGHT, OKAY.
IN ORDER TO STOP INSTALLING THESE IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT DARK SKY.
THAT'S THE THAT'S THE STUFF THAT CAN BE DONE NOW.
YEAH. NOW ARE THESE LIGHTS GOING TO BE IN AND WE'RE UNIFORMING WHATEVER LIGHT.
OKAY. THAT ONE'S MAKING SENSE.
BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO TRY TO PUT THOSE DOWNTOWN AREA WHICH ARE NICE OR IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE THOSE LIGHTS ON MORE OF A BUSINESS SITUATION. BUT IF WE'RE ONLY USING ONE LIGHT, YOU'RE GIVING ME MORE KNOWLEDGE.
OKAY, SO HERE'S MY OTHER QUESTION.
I SAW IN THE IN THE MATERIALS THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT STREETLIGHTS NOT SENDING LIGHT TO THE NEXT LOT, SOME TYPE OF LIGHT THAT WON'T HIT THE NEXT LOT.
AND SO I AND SO SO HOW MANY LIGHTS WOULD YOU HAVE TO PUT ON A STREET.
I MEAN AM I'M USING VERY KINDERGARTEN LEVEL PRE PRE K LEVEL THINKING HERE BECAUSE I'M SEEING A LIGHT NOT ILLUMINATING MY NEIGHBOR'S PART OF THAT DRIVEWAY AND HOW THEY JUST KIND OF GO ON AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT WITH LIGHT. TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LIGHT NOT HITTING THE NEXT LOT OR SO.
SO THE THE WAY THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THIS REQUIREMENT D SAYS THAT LIGHTS WILL BE DESIGNED SO THAT LIGHT DOESN'T LAND ON NEIGHBORING LOTS. WELL, MOST OF OUR STREETLIGHTS ARE INSTALLED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND IF LIGHT LANDS ON THE LOT BEHIND IT, OR THE LOT NEXT TO IT OR TO TWO DOWN, WE'RE TECHNICALLY IN VIOLATION OF THIS REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE'VE JUST SAID LIGHTS NOT GOING TO LAND ON ANY OF THEIR LOTS, BUT PHYSICALLY AND PRACTICALLY WE EXPECT THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS BE CHANGED.
AND THOSE DO LAP OVER IN SOME WAYS GENERALLY.
I MEAN WE'RE WE'RE OKAY WITH LIGHT HITTING THE NEXT LOT.
THE THE THERE ARE OPTIONS TO MINIMIZE IT IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
ON SOME OF OUR LIGHTS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT WHAT THEY CALL HOUSE SIDE SHIELDS.
THAT JUST ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA LIP OR PROTECTION TO KEEP IT FROM SHINING TOO BRIGHT.
YEAH. I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT OUR NEIGHBORS ARGUING ABOUT THEIR LIGHTS BEING TOO DARK.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUDGE HARLAN. SORRY.
WHEN I WALK MY DOG, I VERY OFTEN WALK IN THE DARK.
I HAVE NEVER TO COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER BIRDS QUESTION.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING TOO LIGHT.
I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THERE BEING TOO MUCH LIGHT, BECAUSE MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LIGHT AT AT NIGHT. AND SECONDLY.
OH. AREN'T THERE SOME INSTANCES WHERE CITY INSTALLED LIGHTS ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? ILLUMINATING PRIVATE PROPERTY.
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YEAH YEAH YEAH. AND I CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE RIGHT THIS SECOND.RIGHT. RIGHT AFTER YOU. JERRY.
THERE SHOULDN'T BE TYPICALLY WE CALL THAT A SECURITY LIGHT.
SO THE CUSTOMER THEMSELVES PAY FOR IT AND THEY PAY TO HAVE THAT LIGHT.
IT LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE THE LIGHT THAT WE HAVE ON STREETS.
BUT THE CUSTOMER THEMSELVES PAY FOR THAT.
BUT WE WE TRY TO AVOID AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF USING CITY PAY TO LIGHT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
WE KIND OF WORK SERIOUSLY TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT.
GET BACK TO ME. TOO MUCH LIGHT.
OH, THAT WAS THE QUESTION OKAY.
SO THE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE USUALLY HEAR IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT LIKE WE'VE HAD PROJECTS THAT RECOMMENDED OR HAVE ADDED LIGHTS TO A DEVELOPMENT, THE ONES THAT WANT MORE LIGHT GENERALLY DON'T SAY ANYTHING AND WE'LL HAVE A HANDFUL THAT DON'T LIKE IT.
THAT I GUESS BASICALLY I'M JUST SHARING THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR.
PEOPLE WILL SPEAK UP IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE LIGHT, BUT VERY RARELY DO WE HEAR ANYONE ASKING FOR MORE LIGHT, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO THE STATUS QUO OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER.
WHAT'S. JUST TO CLEAR THINGS UP.
WE'RE NOT HERE GIVING DIRECTION ON WHAT'S SITTING ON THE TABLE.
OKAY. SO I CAN BARELY SEE YOU.
SO COULD WE MIND MOVING THAT A LITTLE BIT AND JUST HOLD ON TO THAT? YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S JUST KIND OF SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER LATER ON.
OKAY. SO THEN ON THE LIGHT FIXTURE THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, RECOMMENDING IS THAT BOTH FOR THE STREETLIGHTS THAT DEVELOPERS PUT IN AND WHAT GOES ON THE CITY INSTALLED STREET, OR ARE THOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT? THIS IS JUST FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LIGHTS.
AND SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE DDC.
AND WE HAVE CODES, ALL THE CODES CHANGE.
AND IF THEY DO REPAIRS OR IF THEY DO REPLACEMENT, WE DO SO ON THE.
SO MY QUESTION SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
AND I'M OKAY WITH THE SUGGESTED CHANGES TO THE DDC.
AND THEN TO SEE THE CRITERIA MANUAL AS IT COMES FORWARD.
SO ONE QUESTION I HAVE ON YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S JUST PICKING A DATE CERTAIN HERE IT IS.
AND AFTER THAT DO WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL DECIDES MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.
SO BECAUSE STREETLIGHTS TYPICALLY ARE THE LAST THING TO GO IN OR SOMETIMES OR THEY COULD BE THE FIRST, I GUESS I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN YOU SAID THAT IF THEY HAVEN'T INSTALLED THEM YET ON PREEXISTING DEVELOPMENTS OUTSIDE OF A COST ISSUE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THE ONES THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING WILL GO ON PROBABLY A VERY SIMILAR POLL, MAYBE A DIFFERENT STYLE, DIFFERENT COLOR, BUT IS IT VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THESE ACORN POLLS WOULD GO ON AS FAR AS HEIGHT AND KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE SITTING ON AND THE ELECTRICAL WIRING AND ALL THAT TO SET IT UP, THE WIRING WOULD BE THE SAME.
THESE IDEALLY WOULD HAVE A METAL POLE.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN DIFFERENCE.
OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE IF ANY.
THE COST DIFFERENCE PRIMARILY.
SO IS PART OF YOUR ASK FROM US THE THIS HARD DATE OF JANUARY 1ST.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COMES IS THAT PART OF THIS CRITERIA, THESE CHANGES YOU'RE ASKING US TO APPROVE, OR IS THAT JUST SOMETHING YOU TALKED ABOUT AS AN EXAMPLE? IT'S CURRENTLY PART OF THE DRAFT CRITERIA MANUAL.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME NOW.
AND IT'S JUST MY OWN CURIOSITY.
I'D BE CURIOUS AS TO MAYBE IN SOME EMAIL OR SOMETHING, MAYBE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR COUNCIL, HOW MANY DEVELOPMENTS WE CURRENTLY HAVE GOING THAT ARE IN A STAGE TO WHERE? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW CODE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.
SO I'M COMING IN, I'M SUBMITTING FOR A NEW SUBDIVISION.
AT WHAT POINT IN THIS PROCESS DOES THIS OFF PERIOD, LET'S SAY JANUARY 1ST.
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AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT OCCURS? AT WHAT STAGE? IF I'M COMING IN TO DO THIS, IS IT RIGHT IN THE BEGINNING.WELL, ULTIMATELY WE TRY TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION.
AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE CHANGE GOING FORWARD.
SO WE'LL START THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IF SOMEONE HASN'T ACQUIRED THOSE FIXTURES OR SET SOMETHING ASIDE, WE'LL GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO WE'LL START THAT PROCESS IMMEDIATELY.
THE OTHER PIECE ON THE CRITERIA MANUAL, YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THE CRITERIA MANUALS AT THE SAME TIME.
THEY'LL CARRY ALL OF THE ALL OF THE CRITERIA MANUALS FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
THIS IS JUST THE TWO ELEMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PIKE, WHERE SOMEONE'S ALREADY MADE THOSE PURCHASES, OR WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THOSE APPROVALS, WE WILL WE WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTING THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CERTAINLY TRY TO.
OKAY. WHEN YOU SAY I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR IT, I JUST I THINK THAT THOSE ARE LONG PROCESSES.
SUBDEVELOPMENT SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT IS A LONG PROCESS.
ABSOLUTELY. AND IF LOOKING BACK, YOU'RE RIGHT, IF SOMEBODY PURCHASED IT AND THEY VERY CLEARLY NOT.
YOU MIGHT COULD JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE CHANGING THIS.
WOULD YOU MIND DOING THIS? AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE WHAT THE COST DIFFERENCE IS AND ALL THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG ASK TO GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
IF YOU'VE GOT 1000 HOUSES IN THE PIPELINE, WHICH I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE DO FROM, LET'S SAY, THE LAST THIS QUARTER THAT MAY BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE SUMMER, THAT WILL MISS THIS CUT OFF.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN ON THIS PATH.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE CONVERSATION.
THE COMMUNITY KNOWS IT, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE NOD HERE TODAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR MELTZER? YEAH. THANK YOU. JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M TRACKING A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT I SAW THIS WEEKEND AT THE PICKLEBALL TENNIS CENTER.
OKAY, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE ANYWAY.
NO, NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH THIS ASPECT OF THE RECOMMENDATION, I HEARD CLEARLY READ AND HEARD THAT THIS IS SORT OF A DIFFERENT TOPIC. DOESN'T MEET THE NOT AN OPTION FOR MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU LAID OUT.
THAT IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
YOU SAID IT'S SORT OF A GUESS WHETHER IT'S 25 OR 75% REDUCTION OF UPLIGHT.
WILL YOU BE DETERMINING THAT OR HOW WILL YOU DETERMINE THAT? BECAUSE I'D FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT IF IT'S 25 VERSUS 75 PLUS, IF I CAN ADD ON TO THE QUESTION BEFORE I ANSWER AND DO THOSE HAVE DIMMING INTERACTION CAPABILITIES AS WELL? OKAY, SO I'LL MAKE SURE I CUT ALL THREE.
YEAH. NUMBER ONE, COULD WE USE THESE DOWNTOWN OR ON THE EXISTING LIGHTS AS A RETROFIT? NUMBER TWO, COULD IT BE DIMMED? POTENTIALLY. AND NUMBER THREE, HOW MUCH YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH REDUCTION OF THE LIGHT IS IT? SO THE QUESTION ON THE UP LIGHT AND HOW MUCH RELATES TO MAYOR PRO TEM BECK'S QUESTION EARLIER, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMMISSION A STUDY FROM THE MANUFACTURER TO KNOW IT'S JUST NOT THE TOOLING AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO TO DO OURSELVES.
AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE MANUFACTURER TO GET A SPECIFIC NUMBER ON THAT IN TERMS OF IS THIS A POSSIBILITY TO RETROFIT? ABSOLUTELY. THE DIMMING SYSTEM.
WE REACHED OUT TO THE MANUFACTURER AND ASKED THEM BECAUSE THERE IS A NODE.
THAT FITS INSIDE RIGHT UP HERE.
THAT CONTROLS THE LIGHT THAT COMMUNICATES WITH OUR CONTROL SYSTEM VIA CELL PHONE, AS WELL AS A GPS
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SIGNAL, SO THAT THE SYSTEM KNOWS WHERE THE IS AT.THE MANUFACTURER DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THIS PARTICULAR ROOF AS TO HOW WELL THAT WORKS.
LET ME JUST DO THIS. CAN WE CAN WE? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE.
CAN WE DO THE LIGHTNING ROUND? I MEAN Y'ALL BROUGHT IT. SO I'M TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT IT AND IT'S NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FANTASTIC. SO DO WE HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WITH THIS LIGHT.
IS THERE ARE THERE MULTI MULTI MULTIPLE MANUFACTURERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AS OF NOW THE MANUFACTURER SAYS THEY CAN SUPPLY THIS LIGHT FOR US WITHIN THREE MONTHS OKAY.
AND THEY'RE THE SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER.
YES. SO LET ME LET ME CORRECT MYSELF ON THAT.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE DISTRIBUTORS OF THIS OKAY.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY HEARD TWO PEOPLE, AND I WOULD BE AGAINST COMMISSIONING A STUDY FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY TO TAKE OUR MONEY TO THEN ADVERTISE HOW MUCH UPLIGHT THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY.
WHY WOULD THE CITY OF DENTON FUND IT FOR THEM TO THEN GO PUT IT ON THEIR ADVERTISEMENT, THAT SORT OF THING? DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD LOOK.
NOT NOT A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO BANKROLL A PRIVATE COMPANY'S ADVERTISING.
AND I WOULD HOPE AND THERE'S NOT BEEN A MAJORITY TO EXPRESS THAT DESIRE.
MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH, I THOUGHT WE WERE KNOCKING.
THAT'S NOT YOU. OH, YOU'RE OLD HABIT.
GO RIGHT AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO FOR DIRECTION, I GIVE DIRECTION TO THE PRIMARY.
AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE DARK SKIES COMPLIANCE ORDINANCE SINCE 2018.
SO I DO GIVE DIRECTION TO YOU TO DO THAT.
I'LL REMIND YOU OF THAT, COUNCILMAN MELTZER.
YEAH, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT ONE.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME LET ME LET ME PREFACE THAT AND GIVE DIRECTION ON IT.
I DIDN'T, MAYOR, I'M HAPPY TO, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU, INCIDENTALLY, THAT IT'S IN THAT COMPANY'S INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THAT CLAIM. DARK SKIES IS NOT JUST A DENTON ISSUE, IT'S THE INDUSTRY.
SO THEY SHOULDN'T NEED OUR MONEY.
IF COMMISSION MEANS SAY YES, WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE ANSWER.
ABSOLUTELY. THINK WE OUGHT TO COMMUNICATE THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT WE OUGHT TO PAY FOR IT.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT. SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT'S AGAINST WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING? THE LUMINAIRES THAT THEY'VE SUGGESTED.
POLES. JUST IF YOU'RE AGAINST STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE POLES ON THE LIGHTS NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU.
OTHERWISE, THEY HAVE THEIR DIRECTION.
APPRECIATE IT. OH, AND ONE OTHER THING.
SO HOW CAN I GET TO THE MICROPHONE? NO BREAK. HOW LONG? HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH THE CITY? FOUR AND A HALF YEARS. FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
THIS IS THE FIRST PRESENTATION WITH CITY COUNCIL.
HAVE YOU BEEN. WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT YOU ON THE HOT SEAT EARLIER.
THAT'S GOOD. BUT I DO HAVE AN ELEPHANT FOR YOU AS WELL.
JUST TO KIND OF REMEMBER THAT FIRST PRESENTATION.
VERY WELL DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOLD ON. LET'S SLIDE OVER HERE BY THE LIGHT OF POWER HERE.
PUT YOUR HAND ON THERE FOR. HERE WE GO.
THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU MAN FOR SURE.
OH, THAT'S SO FUN WATCHING HIM CARRY THAT THING.
OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM C, WHICH IS ID 23224.
[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: 1) Request for a resolution to send to the Denton County Commissioners Court encouraging the placement of voting centers in the City of Denton and throughout the entire county. 2) Request for a Work Session on the pros, cons, and options regarding requiring working air conditioning in rentals and prohibiting HOAs from disallowing air conditioners.]
RECEIVE REPORT. WHOLE DISCUSSION GIVES STAFF DIRECTION ON PENDING CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS.[01:10:06]
SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ONE RETROACTIVE.PERFECT. AND SECOND, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO.
I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO SAY HELLO TO CARLOTTA.
CARLOTTA HAS BEEN DOING SOME SHADOWING IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SHE'S INTERESTED IN A CAREER PATH IN CITY MANAGEMENT.
AND I TOLD HER IF AT ANY POINT THERE'S A JOB OPENING WHEN A CURRENT A2 DECIDES TO RETIRE AND GO WORK AT H-E-B, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO PLEASE WELCOME HER.
AS A REMINDER, UP TO SEVEN REQUESTS WILL BE REVIEWED PER MEETING, ONE PER COUNCIL MEMBER.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EACH STAFF MEMBER TO INTRODUCE THEIR REQUEST.
THEY'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO DESCRIBE AND JUSTIFY THEIR REQUEST, AND THEN REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL THEN HAVE A MAXIMUM OF UP TO ONE MINUTE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INDICATE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE USE OF CITY STAFF.
TIME TO RESPOND TO THE REQUEST.
STAFF WILL RESPOND TO ALL REQUESTS WHERE A CONSENSUS OF AT LEAST FOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IS ESTABLISHED, AND A CONSENSUS OF SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REQUIRED FOR A RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA PRIOR TO A WORK SESSION ON THE REQUEST.
AND WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE FOR A REQUEST FOR A RESOLUTION TO SEND TO THE DENTON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ENCOURAGING THE PLACEMENT OF VOTING CENTERS IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
IF IT'S TO GO STRAIGHT TO A AGENDA ITEM, THERE'S A SUPERMAJORITY REQUIREMENT VERSUS A WORK SESSION.
SO I JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR SO THAT I CAN KEEP COUNT.
IT'S NOT CLEAR AS I READ THIS.
ARE YOU REQUESTING A WORK SESSION OR A LETTER TO BE GENERATED WITHOUT A WORK SESSION? I THINK WE'RE JUST REQUESTING A LETTER.
RYAN. DO YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I GUESS I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT PIECE EITHER.
GENERATE THE GENERATION OF A LETTER WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO AN AGENDA.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. I THINK THAT ANYTHING ABSENT.
SO IT SAYS HERE THAT IT'S REQUIRED FOR A RESOLUTION.
AND YOUR REQUEST WAS FOR A TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION TO SEND TO THE DENTON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.
BUT LIKE. WITHOUT A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS IT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SUPERMAJORITY.
IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WORK SESSION, IT COULD BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY.
OKAY. I MEAN, OH, OKAY, I GUESS.
I'M CONFUSED. YES, YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKED FOR.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A WORK SESSION.
I WAS NOT TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING STRAIGHT ON THE AGENDA.
THAT WASN'T THE INTENTION. OKAY, OKAY.
GOT IT. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING I COULDN'T DO THAT.
AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, I WASN'T TRYING TO DO THAT, SO.
OKAY, MY BAD, MY BAD. NO, YOU CAN.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW TO TALLY.
YEAH I KNOW, BUT I WASN'T TRYING TO.
SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT VOTING LOCATIONS, AND IT JUST BECAME VERY APPARENT TO ME THAT WE CAN SIDESTEP ALL THIS BY HAVING VOTE CENTERS IN PLACE. SO AS I REMEMBER THE HISTORY OF A THING BACK WHEN RECENTLY DECEASED FORMER FORMER JUDGE MARY HORNE WAS THE JUDGE OF THE COUNTY, LOOKED AT THIS AND THIS HAS PASSED THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY PASSED VOTE CENTERS ALREADY, AND AS I REMEMBER IT, SESSION BEFORE LAST IN THE SB THREE AND THE VOTING BILL THAT THE STATE PASSED, VOTE CENTERS WERE APPROVED FOR DENTON COUNTY, BUT VOTE CENTERS STILL HAVE NOT BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
SO WHY IN THE METROPLEX, WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTY THAT DOES NOT HAVE VOTE CENTERS, RIGHT? SO EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY IN TARRANT COUNTY, DALLAS COUNTY, COLLIN COUNTY VOTERS KNOW THAT THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT AND CAST THEIR BALLOT DIDN'T COUNT. THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T DO THAT.
THIS MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR OUR VOTERS.
EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE OUR POLLING LOCATIONS SHOULD BE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE IF VOTING CENTERS ARE PUT IN PLACE, WE CAN MIX THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSISTENCY, AND WE KNOW THAT OUR VOTERS ARE GOING TO COME TO EXPECT THAT.
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AND THE LAST REASON FOR ME IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CHEAPER.VOTE CENTERS IS A WAY FOR US TO SAVE MONEY.
SO WITH THAT, I'M ASKING THAT IF WE NEED TO HAVE A WORK SESSION, THAT'S FINE.
I TRUST STAFF THAT THEY CAN TAKE WHAT THIS BODY SAYS.
WE CAN GIVE IT A QUICK LOOK AND THE WORK SESSION, WE CAN PUT IT ON AGENDA.
WE CAN PASS IT. WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR COUNTY PARTNERS TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY PASSED THIS.
JUDGE HAS 1 MILLION PEOPLE THAT HE IS TASKED WITH MANAGING.
HE'S IN TASKED WITH MANAGING THIS PROJECT.
NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE GET NOTES FROM AUSTIN TELLING US WHAT TO DO.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD LOOK.
WE'RE ALREADY, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY IN A FORMAL STANDPOINT AND A FORMAL WAY, AND SAY THAT WE TAKE A POSITION CONTRARY TO WHAT HE'S DOING.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN PROCESS.
WE HAVE NO UPDATE ON WHERE THEY ARE IN THAT PROCESS.
AND SO I'M GOING TO I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR THAT I'M AGAINST THIS FOR THAT REASON.
YOU KNOW, ANYONE? THAT JUDGE IS VERY APPROACHABLE.
ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER.
IT WAS ALWAYS SEEMED ODD TO ME THAT WE CHANGE IT ALL UP FOR ELECTION DAY.
I'VE HEARD JUDGE EADS SAY THAT HE'S FOR IT.
I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN IT WHATSOEVER.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH, I'LL BE A THIRD.
I'M IN FAVOR OF ENCOURAGING US TO DO WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE ALREADY GAVE US THE RIGHT TO DO.
I'M. I THINK ENCOURAGEMENT NEVER HURTS THAT IT EXPRESSES THE PRIORITIES OF THIS BODY.
I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF US DRAFTING SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION OR PUTTING TOGETHER A RESOLUTION THROUGH THE ASSISTANCE WITH THE CITY, CITY, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO THEM.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S JUST A COURTEOUS THING TO DO.
IT CAN CERTAINLY BE A COURTEOUS COURTESY LETTER AS A REMINDER.
I FAIL TO SEE HOW VOTING CENTERS ARE GOING TO SAVE MONEY.
WE'VE WE'VE STOOD ON OUR HEAD MAKING IT MAKING IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.
POLLING. POLLING SITES ARE OPEN.
7 TO 7, INCLUDING SATURDAY, AND NOT 7 TO 7 ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
BUT THEY'RE OPEN ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.
WHAT'S MY ONE MINUTE'S GOING TO BE SPENT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD IS, AT LEAST FROM THE REQUESTER, THAT IT WAS THIS WAS A WORK SESSION TO ASK FOR A WORK SESSION TO COME FORWARD THAT SAYS, HEY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT VOLT CENTERS AND WHAT IT ALL MEANS AND WHERE THE COUNTY.
I'M IN FAVOR OF A WORK SESSION.
I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF DRAFTING A RESOLUTION WITHOUT HAVING MORE INFORMATION.
I AM IN FAVOR OF A WORK SESSION TO PUT ALL THESE FACTS TOGETHER, TO HAVE A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE COUNTY, TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE, TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THIS. SO, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
I DON'T IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT JUST GOING STRAIGHT TO A RESOLUTION.
SO I'M OKAY FOR A WORK SESSION, SO JUST COUNT ME IN AS THAT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE I NEED TO LEAVE THE REST UP TO YOU.
THERE IS NO IF IT'S A REQUEST FOR A DRAFT, THAT'S IT'S A WORK SESSION.
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SO IT'S A WORK SESSION THAT COMES BACK.IF IT'S SOMETHING MORE ACTIVE THAN THAT, THEN I DON'T.
I THINK IT FAILS, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE.
THAT LETTER CAN COME BACK TO US AND WORK SESSION.
AND FROM THERE, IF THERE'S DIRECTION, WE CAN THEN PUT IT ON AN AGENDA.
BUT I ASK FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT A LETTER.
BUT WHEN CLARIFYING WHAT WE WERE GOING TO.
I'M NOT GOING TO I'M I HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SKIN IN THE GAME.
THE STAFF CAN LOOK AT IT AND COME BACK WITH WHATEVER YOU NEED TO COME BACK WITH IT.
THAT WAY IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO INFLUENCE ON IT.
IT'S WHATEVER YOU HEARD, WHATEVER THE CITY MANAGER HEARD, THERE'S THAT.
COUNCILMAN MCGEE, COUNCILMEMBER MELTZER COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCILMEMBER BYRD ARE IN FAVOR OF WHATEVER YOU HEARD MYSELF, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND AND WELL ARE AGAINST AND COUNCILMEMBER WATTS IS UNCLEAR.
AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO STAFF TO BRING BACK WHATEVER YOU BRING BACK.
MAYOR, IF YOU'RE OKAY. I'M WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BRING THIS ONE BACK UNTIL DECEMBER.
WHATEVER YOUR TIMING IS, IS YOUR TIME BOOKED UP IN THE.
AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING UNDER STAFF INFORMATION, THE COUNTY HAS SEVERAL FACTS AVAILABLE ON ITS WEBSITES THAT PROVIDE INFORMATION ON WHAT VOTE CENTERS ARE AND THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT THEM.
WE WILL COME BACK WITH A WORK SESSION.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.
ITEM TWO IS A REQUEST FOR A WORK SESSION ON THE PROS, CONS, AND OPTIONS REGARDING REQUIRING WORKING AIR CONDITIONING AND RENTALS AND PROHIBITING HOA'S FROM DISALLOWING AIR CONDITIONERS. COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER.
WHEN YOU'RE READY AND SAME QUESTION HERE ARE YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WORK SESSION? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
ALL RIGHT. IT'S MOSTLY RIGHT RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD TO IT.
WE ALL LIVED THROUGH THE MULTIPLE DAY, 170 DEGREE HEAT.
MOST PEOPLE, IF YOU ASK THEM ON, YOU KNOW, JUST RANDOMLY, DO THEY THINK THAT WORKING AIR CONDITIONING IS A REQUIREMENT AND RENTALS WOULD, WOULD TELL YOU THEY ASSUMED IT ALREADY WAS A REQUIREMENT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF THERE IS AIR CONDITIONING IN A RENTAL, IT HAS TO BE WORKING, BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO HAVE IT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SAW THE REPORTING ABOUT THE HOA WHERE PEOPLE WERE DISALLOWED TO PUT IN AIR CONDITIONING UNITS.
SO I'M ASKING FOR A WORK SESSION TO SEE WHETHER WE COULD, COULD OR AND OR SHOULD MOVE TO REQUIREMENTS ON BOTH OF THOSE AND TO HEAR THE PROS, THE CONS, THE OPTIONS, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS? ANY RESPONSE? MAYOR PRO TEM? YEAH.
I THINK GENERALLY WHEN YOU GET THESE KINDS OF TEMPERATURES THAT WE'RE SEEING AND IT BEHOOVES US TO EVALUATE WHAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE IS FOR OUR CITIZENS.
I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, TALKED TO THE TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, THIS THING.
AND THERE'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.
HE WAS RENTING, RENTING, RENTING A PAD.
HE HE BOUGHT A USED MOBILE HOME 23 YEARS AGO.
THE AIR CONDITIONING QUIT WORKING TEN YEARS AGO.
THE FACT THAT THIS CAME TO TO THE FOREFRONT AT THE, AT THE, WITH THE WITH THE WRITING OF THE ARTICLE, I THINK IS JUST I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS WRITTEN WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN, BUT BUT IT'S NOT IT WASN'T AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE IT TOOK TEN YEARS FOR IT TO EVEN COME TO LIGHT.
THE THE PROBLEM WAS, THAT'S YOUR TIME.
OKAY. GOT YOU. COUNCILMAN MCGEE.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'LL BE QUICK.
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I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALLOWED TO YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINS SO HE CAN FINISH.WHAT A GUY. ANYONE ELSE? BUT I'M A YES.
COUNCILMAN WATTS. WELL, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR RENTAL PROPERTIES, AND THE REQUEST SHOWS, AND I'M OKAY WITH THE WORK SESSION, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF JUST GOING OVER WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICY IS.
A MANUFACTURED HOME AND LEASING LAND AND HAVING EXECUTED A LEASE WITH CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
SO I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF WHATEVER WE DECIDE.
AND REALLY, THE ONLY QUESTION FOR ME IN THIS IS IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING AND THEY'RE RENTING OUT THE PROPERTY AND THEY LEASE IT WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING, IS THE CITY. DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IT IN IF PEOPLE HAVE LEASED IT IN THE CONDITION? BECAUSE IF IT'S IF YOU'VE GOT IT, YOU GOT TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE 80 DEGREES.
YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO 80 DEGREES.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, THEN I WILL SAY THIS.
I. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL SITUATION OF THOSE THAT EXPRESSED HARDSHIP.
IT'S YOU HAVE TO KIND OF GO A LITTLE DEEPER AND PUT YOURSELF IN A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
THEY'LL COME OUT TOMORROW AND ADDRESS THAT.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT YOU DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT THE REQUESTER TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION IS AS A FORMER SINGLE PARENT, YOU SOMETIMES CLOSE OFF PART OF YOUR HOUSE AND USE A WINDOW UNIT TO COOL THAT AREA SO THAT YOU CAN HANG OUT SO THAT YOU CAN KEEP YOUR UTILITY BILL LOW, VERSUS A CENTRAL AIR THAT CIRCULATES THROUGH THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND RUNS YOUR BILL UP TO WHERE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN INTERFAITH TO OFFSET THAT.
HEY, EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD THEIR BILL AND CAN COOL THEIR ENTIRE HOUSE.
SO THERE'LL BE A WORK SESSION.
WHAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER? MCGEE? MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBER.
MELTZER. YES. AND THEN? OH, SHOCKING.
YES. I DIDN'T SEE THIS COMING AT ALL.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY? 21 YEARS.
WELCOME TO THE CITY OF DENTON.
SO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WE HANDED YOU AN ELEPHANT? YES. ELEPHANT.
THANK YOU. SHE DESERVES ABOUT 25 OF THEM.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS COMING AT ALL.
THANK YOU. WELL, NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T KNOW.
I DIDN'T KNOW I CAME RIGHT IN.
OKAY, SO AT THIS DINNER HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT WILL BE AT FIVE.
OKAY. BE HERE FIVE. WE DON'T NEED TO CALL A.
THAT WAS A PLACEHOLDER. GOT IT.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW AT 4:28 P.M., CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE CLOSED MEETING.
[1. Closed Meeting:]
ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING ITEM.DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072.
AND I THINK WE'RE EVERYONE'S HERE.
YEAH. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING.
PARDON ME OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS 630 AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
TODAY IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17TH.
SO WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
FIRST THING IS TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS.
FLAG. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
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HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
AND THEN I HAVE A FEW PROCLAMATIONS.
[2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]
THE FIRST IS SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK.SO IF YOU'RE HERE WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR.
YOU CAN MEET ME DOWN AT THE PODIUM.
SO IF YOU COULD THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING.
AND THEN I HAVE A PROCLAMATION.
I AM TRICIA BROOKS, DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WITH OUR DAILY BREAD.
I'M JENNA, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.
I'M THE TRANSITIONAL CASE MANAGER, AND I'M ALISON GREGORY RICHTER.
THANK YOU. AND SO FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NEVER HEARD OF OUR DAILY BREAD, WHAT DO WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW? DO YOU HAVE A WEBSITE? WE DO. YOU WHAT? YOU TAKE VOLUNTEERS? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE A 24 OVER SEVEN, 365 HOMELESSNESS CARE CENTER FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, HOMELESSNESS OR AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS.
WE HEAVILY RELY ON THE CITY OF DENTON FOR ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT.
WE JUST FINISHED OUR SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH NINTH, SO WE WERE ABLE TO ASK THE COMMUNITY AND CHURCHES TO PRAY FOR US, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A WEEK OF TOURS.
SO WE ARE SHELTERING, NOURISHING AND PROVIDING WRAPAROUND SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN HELP THEM THROUGH THAT SITUATION AND AFTER. WE ALSO LOVE OUR VOLUNTEERS.
WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE WHICH IS OUR DAILY BREAD DENTON.ORG.
WE ARE GREATLY SUPPORTED BY MANY VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY.
THANK YOU. AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN HELPING PEOPLE RE-ACCLIMATE TO THE WORKFORCE.
PARTNERING WITH THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT HERE WITH THE CITY.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
GREETINGS. WHEREAS THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS REMAINS A PRESSING CONCERN IN OUR COMMUNITY, AFFECTING MANY ACROSS DENTON COUNTY AND IN REQUIRING A COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO ADDRESS ITS CHALLENGES.
AND WHEREAS OUR DAILY BREAD HAS BEEN A STEADFAST SOURCE OF SUPPORT, COMPASSION AND RESOURCES FOR OUR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, STRIVING TO PROVIDE PATHWAYS TO STABILITY.
AND WHEREAS, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS OF OUR DAILY BREAD VOLUNTEERS, LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE CITY OF DENTON AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS DEMONSTRATE UNITY AND CREATING MEANINGFUL CHANGE, PROMOTING AWARENESS AND FOSTERING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND AIDING THOSE IN NEED.
AND WHEREAS, SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK, WHICH WAS LAST WEEK, OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH NINTH, 2023, SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMPLIFY THE VOICES OF THE POPULATION, RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF HOMELESSNESS, AND ENCOURAGE SUPPORT OF LONG TERM SOLUTIONS.
NOW, THEREFORE, I. GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH NINTH, 2023 AS SHELTER YOUR NEIGHBOR WEEK. IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND.
YOU SLIDE IN AND WE'LL GET A PICTURE HERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE DENTON TEACHERS.
HEY, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? VERY GOOD.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING.
TEACH STUDENTS, SUPPORT THEM AND LOVE THEM UNCONDITIONALLY.
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AND WHAT OUR TEACHERS DO MATTERS VERY MUCH EVERY DAY.EXCELLENT. I'M STRUGGLING HERE.
I WAS SO WHAT A DELIGHTFUL SCHOOL.
I HAD A PLEASURE TO THE PLEASURE TO COME BY AND VISIT WITH Y'ALL AND THE EVER, EVER EAGLES.
FANTASTIC. SO Y'ALL ARE DOING GREAT WORK.
AND YOUR PRINCIPAL REMIND ME IS MISS AARON VARNELL.
HOW ARE YOU? I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU THERE.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. SHE'S DOING AMAZING WORK.
SHE'S A PRODUCT OF LIBERTY, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THEN SHE'S BEEN WITH THE ISD FOR A WHILE AND DOING AMAZING THINGS THERE AT THE SCHOOL, AS ALL THE TEACHERS.
THANK YOU. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.
AND WHEREAS TEACHER QUALITY MATTERS MORE TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT THAN ANY OTHER SCHOOL RELATED FACTOR, AND WHEREAS TEACHERS SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS PREPARING LESSONS, PLANS AND SUPPORTING STUDENTS, AND WHEREAS OUR COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES AND SUPPORTS ITS TEACHERS IN EDUCATING THE CHILDREN OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS HASHTAG TEACHERS CAN OR NUMBER SIGN DEPENDS ON HOW OLD YOU ARE, IS A STATEWIDE MOVEMENT SUPPORTED BY MORE THAN 150 PARTNERING BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS COMMITTED TO EVALUATING THE TEACHING PROFESSION AND HONORING THE CRITICAL ROLE TEACHERS PLAY IN THE SUCCESS OF TEXAS.
NOW, THEREFORE, I GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE FIFTH DAY OF OCTOBER 2023 AS DENTON TEACHERS DAY, IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. PICTURE.
ALL RIGHT. AND SO I HAVE A FEW COPIES HERE FOR YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
IF YOU'RE HERE FOR DENTON ARBOR DAY, IF YOU CAN, COME ON DOWN.
HOW ARE YOU? VERY WELL, THANK YOU.
OKAY. IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING.
HAYWOOD MORGAN, URBAN FORESTER WITH THE CITY OF DENTON.
AND WE'RE HERE TO RECOGNIZE TEXAS ARBOR DAY.
COLLEEN FITZPATRICK, SENIOR PARK PLANNER.
AND WHY YOU HAVE IT. SO HOW MANY TREES ARE WE GIVING AWAY? YEAH, SO WE'RE GIVING AWAY 700 TREES AND THEY ARE ALL SPOKEN FOR.
SO IT WAS A READ. THERE'S ONE OF THE READ TREES.
WHAT IS THAT THAT WE'RE GIVING AWAY. READ.
SO I GOT IN QUEUE AND EIGHT MINUTES LATER THEY WERE OUT OF THE RED REDBUDS.
RIGHT. IT WAS I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS FAST.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.
GREETINGS. WHEREAS ALL ACROSS TEXAS, FROM TOWERING PINES TO MAJESTIC OAKS TO MEAGER MESQUITES, THAT MANY TREES, THE MANY TREES OF TEXAS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND PROMINENT FEATURES OF OUR UNIQUE AND BREATHTAKING LANDSCAPE.
AND WHEREAS AS TEXANS, WE VALUE OUR TREES AND THE BENEFITS THEY PROVIDE EVERY DAY, WHICH INCLUDE CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, IMPROVING OUR HEALTH, AND EVEN SAVING MONEY ON ENERGY BILLS.
AND WHEREAS, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO PLANT TREES AND CELEBRATE THEM ON THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EACH NOVEMBER OF TEXAS ARBOR DAY.
AND WHEREAS, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF TEXAS FORESTRY ASSOCIATION, TEXAS FIRST OBSERVED ARBOR DAY IN 1889 AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH FUNDAMENTAL LESSONS ABOUT THE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS TOGETHER WE CAN CREATE A BRIGHTER AND MORE BEAUTIFUL FUTURE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
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THEY, IN TURN, CAN AFFIRM THE DUTY OF PROTECTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES BY BEING RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF THIS GREAT LAND.READY. SMILE AND SAY EIGHT MINUTES.
IF YOU CAN COME UP ANYONE HERE WITH.
OKAY. WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M JUST READING THE POST-IT.
YEAH, WELL, I'M JUST READING THE POST-IT NOTE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU ALL. IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING AND WE'LL GO.
JUST SAYING. MY NAME IS JORY FOOTE.
I'M THE TREASURER. MY NAME IS CAITLIN BURKE PICKLER.
MY NAME IS CHRISTY MCCARTER, AND I'M A MEMBER.
OUR MAJOR FIVE POINT PROGRAMMATIC THRUSTS INCLUDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, INTERNATIONAL AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT, POLITICAL AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT, AND SOCIAL ACTION.
SO WE ARE JUST CONTINUING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY.
AND BEFORE I GET IN TROUBLE AGAIN, RIGHT.
SO I'M GOING TO SAY I'M GOING TO SAY THE WHOLE THING RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT. SO IT'S DELTA SIGMA THETA ZETA ZETA 100%.
YOU GOT IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I STAY ON Y'ALL'S GOOD SIDE.
OKAY. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK Y'ALL DO.
Y'ALL DO A TON IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
GREETINGS. WHEREAS DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, INCORPORATED IS A PRIVATE, NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO AID AND SUPPORT THOSE ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
AND WHEREAS, SINCE ITS FOUNDING IN 1913, DELTA SIGMA THETA REMAINS A PUBLIC SERVICE ORGANIZATION BOLDLY CONFRONTING THE CHALLENGES OF AFRICAN AMERICANS, PROVIDING INITIATIVES IN EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, INTERNATIONAL AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT, AND SOCIAL ACTION.
AND WHEREAS, EXERCISE AND A VISION TO ESTABLISH AND PROMOTE PROGRAMS THAT INCLUDE SUPPORT, SCHOLARSHIPS AND SERVICE TO THE GREATER DENTON AND COMMUNITIES. 19 VISIONARY WOMEN LED THE CHARGE FOR THE CHARTER OF THE ZETA ETA CHAPTER ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, 1968, AND WHEREAS THE DELTA SIGMA ZETA ETA CHAPTER CONTINUES TO PROVIDE IMPACTFUL PROGRAMS ON UNT.
CAMPUS CLEANUP AND MANY, MANY MORE.
WE GIVE THEM A HAND AND THANK YOU.
AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO GIVE US YOUR NAME.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THAT'S AWESOME.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE.
OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS EVAN GREEN.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ZETA ETA CHAPTER, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.
IT'S A MILESTONE. THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
WE ARE THE FIRST BLACK GREEK LETTER ORGANIZATION CHARTERED ON OUR CAMPUS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE OKAY.
SO WE'LL I'LL LET YOU IN ON THAT SIDE.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE AND SQUEEZE IN A LITTLE BIT.
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WE LOVE EACH OTHER. ALL RIGHT.THAT'S AWESOME. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO FROM NOW ON, THE ANECHOIC, JUST LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS.
[3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]
REVIEW THE PROCEDURES OF ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL, PLEASE.THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM.
A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME IS EXPIRED.
IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING.
SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS.
THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR AN UNSCHEDULED OPEN MIKE REPORTS.
THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.
ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.
COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS STILL STEVEN DILLENBERG.
CHRISTINE BRAY, IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
GIVE ME A SEC. I HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE, I BELIEVE.
COULD SOMEBODY SHOW ME HOW TO ACCESS IT? HERE WE GO.
AND JUST USE THE ARROWS. THANK YOU.
FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, THIS IS A MAP OF DENTON'S CURRENT BUS NETWORK.
THAT PINK ROUTE THERE ONLY RUNS EVERY 43 MINUTES AND ONLY UNTIL ABOUT 5 P.M..
AND THIS IS A PROBLEM HERE IN GREEN IS HALF MILE AND FULL MILE RADIUS FROM DENTON SUPERMARKETS.
THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE.
I BELIEVE YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS IN YOUR INBOX, BUT I WANTED TO COME IN PERSON.
SO HERE ARE TWO ROUTES THAT WE PROPOSE THAT THE CITY OF DENTON COULD MAKE.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ONE OF THEM LARGELY OVERLAPS WITH THAT PINK ROUTE, BUT GETS ACCESS TO RYAN HIGH, AS WELL AS THREE MOBILE HOME PARKS AND THE PINK ROUTE SERVICES A LOT OF CITY SERVICES, AS WELL AS INCOMING AND EXISTING APARTMENTS, THE MALL AND THE BUSINESS AREA DOWN ON LOOP 288.
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THIS IS THE FULL NETWORK THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY ADDING THOSE TWO ROUTES, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE GET A LOT BETTER COVERAGE OF ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES LIKE GROCERY STORES, DOCTOR'S OFFICES, AND SO ON.SO THE FUNDING FOR THIS COULD COME FROM TRIPS.
I BELIEVE THAT BUYING BUS ROUTES WOULD, IN FACT, COUNT AS A TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE PROJECT.
FOR APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION, WE COULD GET TWO YEARS OF SERVICE ALONG THESE LINES.
THAT NUMBER DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH DCTA AND THE CITY AGREE TO PAY FOR THESE ROUTES, AND IT COULD BE WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS, DCTA TAKES OVER THE ROUTES AND PAYS FOR THEM ITSELF IF RIDERSHIP TARGETS ARE MET.
SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHY WE NEED SERVICE ALONG THESE ROUTES.
AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS COMING TO LOOP 288.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS AN ENTIRELY NEW MOBILE HOME PARK BEING ADDED TO THE EAST OF ASHLEY OAKS.
IN ADDITION TO THE THREE VERY LARGE MOBILE HOME PARKS THAT ARE ALREADY DOWN THAT CORRIDOR, THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE DOWN MCKINNEY, AND WE'RE ADDING QUITE A BIT OF APARTMENT HOUSING ALONG LOOP 288, APPROXIMATELY 1000 UNITS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
AND $3 MILLION MIGHT SEEM LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS SO MUCH CHEAPER THAN EXPANDING OUR ROADS.
FOR EXAMPLE, A MILE OF BONNY BRAY SOUTH OF I-35 COSTS $43 MILLION TO EXPAND.
$3 MILLION, $43 MILLION, AND IT ALIGNS WITH OUR CITY GOALS.
TRANSPORTATION IS CRUCIAL FOR ESCAPING POVERTY.
PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO JOBS.
THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE GROCERY STORE IN ORDER TO HAVE INCOME MOBILITY.
IT IS SO MUCH CLEANER TO COMMUTE BY BUS.
66% OF OUR CITY EMISSIONS ARE TRANSPORTATION.
66%. TWO THIRDS OF OUR EMISSIONS PORTFOLIO IS JUST PEOPLE GETTING AROUND.
AND IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT, WE SHOULD.
PUBLIC TRANSIT IS ALSO KEY FOR VISION ZERO.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS MUCH SAFER ON THE ROAD THAN PERSONAL CARS.
THANK YOU. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH ALL OF YOU.
OKAY, SO WE'VE HAD THE THE CLAPS FOR FOR THREE WEEKS.
I'D ASK YOU AGAIN JUST TO CURTAIL THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO ASK PEOPLE TO LEAVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE TO I HAVE TO ENFORCE THE RULES.
I CAN'T LET THE RULES GO UNCHECKED FOREVER.
RIGHT. WE'VE HAD TWO WEEKS TO EXPRESS YOURSELF, BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD THE MEETING WITHOUT DISRUPTING THEM, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO ASK PEOPLE TO TO BE REMOVED, BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE TO TO IGNORE THE RULES.
NEXT PERSON JACOB VIN GREEN, VIN GREEN.
FORGIVE ME IF I SAID THAT WRONG.
SORRY. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
LET ME PULL UP MY. WELL, MY TIME'S ALREADY STARTED, I SEE.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE.
AND ALLOWING US, THE RESIDENTS OF DENTON, TO SPEAK TO YOU, OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THE DEERWOOD AREA AND THE NORTHEAST NORTHEAST DENTON AREA PLAN.
SO JUST TO ORIENT YOU TO THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR DEERWOOD, IT IS ON THE OUTSIDE OF LOOP 288 AND KINGS ROW, AND GENERALLY AROUND HODGE ELEMENTARY. AND THE ROADS I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ARE KINGS ROW AND DEERWOOD PARKWAY AND THE THREE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE CIRCLED HERE.
NOW, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT SCHOOL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ARE, I ENVY YOU.
BUT I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES HERE IN A SECOND.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL DAY.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DURING THE ACTUAL SCHOOL TRAFFIC? AM AND PM CONDITIONS THAT I AM A LITTLE FEARFUL OF.
I THINK IT'LL BE A VERY DANGEROUS GRIDLOCK.
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THIS IS REGARDING KINGSVILLE WESTBOUND.SO TOWARDS THE LOOP WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MORNING IS VERY POOR.
IT'S ALREADY FAILING AND IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE WITH THE WHOLE INTERSECTION ALSO FAILING.
AND YOU CAN SEE CARS BACK UP VERY FAR HERE ON ON KINGS ROW.
THIS IS COMING OUT OF DEERWOOD ONTO KINGS ROAD.
NOW IF WE LOOK LATER ON AT SCHOOL PICKUP, IT GETS EVEN WORSE.
PICTURE FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.
YOU CAN SEE CARS AGAIN COMING DOWN.
YOU CAN SEE A SCHOOL BUS DOING THE SAME THING, GOING IN THE WRONG LANE AND GOING AROUND THIS.
TURN ONTO GRANT AND YOU CAN NOW SEE A CAR DOING THIS.
AND NOW THERE'S A CAR COMING THE OTHER DIRECTION IN THE DIRECTION THAT IT SHOULD BE COMING.
OKAY. SO AGAIN, BASED ON THE TO THE CARS THAT ARE GOING TO COME THROUGH HERE IS GOING TO DOUBLE DURING THIS TIME, THE CURRENT PEAK AND CARS WERE BACKED UP ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE LOOP.
SO I DON'T JUST COME HERE ASKING FOR OR COMPLAINING.
I HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS, POTENTIALLY.
I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT YOU CREATE TWO PROTECTED LEFT TURNS AND A STRAIGHT LANE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU RESTRIPE DEERWOOD, OR FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT THERE CAN BE WAITING LANES AND MOVING LANES, THAT YOU CHANGE THE THREE WAY STOP, OR CHANGE IT TO A THREE WAY STOP AT DEERWOOD, AND THEN FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO GET THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE EXIT ONTO THE LOOP SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME OF THE CARS OUT ANOTHER WAY.
AND IT SEEMS THE CONSULTANT HAS NOT LISTENED TO US.
THEY HAVE LISTENED TO THE DEVELOPERS.
WE'RE INVESTED IN DENTON FOR THE LONG HAUL, SO PLEASE BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DENTON 2040 PLAN.
NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL BECKMAN.
I'M FROM HARTFIELD ROAD, NAMED A PEACEABLE KINGDOM.
THIS ENTIRE AREA IS A PEACEABLE KINGDOM OUT IN THE NORTHEAST.
INDEED, I'VE NEVER SEEN DEER AT MY RECENTLY SAW 4 IN 1 DAY.
I THINK THEY WERE CHASED OUT OF THERE BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF MINGO AND LOOP 288.
THIS IS THE MOST ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AREA IN NORTH TEXAS.
BEFORE CONSIDERING ANY REVENUE WE MIGHT BENEFIT FROM.
CERTAINLY THE WISHES OF THE CITIZENS SHOULD CARRY MORE WEIGHT THAN THE WISHES OF THE DEVELOPERS.
LOOKING AROUND OUR CITY, I WONDER IF THAT'S THE CASE.
EVERYONE I TALK TO IS FED UP WITH.
I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.
APARTMENTS IN ALL DIRECTIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
A SENSE OF CLAUSTROPHOBIA SETS IN.
I MYSELF GREW UP IN APARTMENTS OF RENTAL HOUSES.
WE NEVER OWNED A HOUSE UNTIL I WAS ON MY OWN.
WHEN I WAS IN MY MID 40S, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN HARTFIELD ROAD.
EVEN THEN IT WASN'T EASY, BUT IT HAS BEEN REWARDING.
THUS WE NEED MULTIFAMILY AND TINY LOTS SO EVERYONE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE, I CRINGE.
IT WASN'T THAT AFFORDABLE FOR US 23 YEARS AGO EITHER, BUT WE DID IT.
I'M SORRY IF I SOUND LIKE A NOT IN MY BACKYARD GUY, BUT IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT US.
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AND INDEED THEY HAVE.GUN SLUNG SLUNG OVER HIS BACK, GOING CAMPING.
THE WRONG KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD RUIN THIS AREA FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD CERTAIN HOUSES IN CERTAIN AREAS, AND NEITHER CAN I.
THERE ARE AREAS THAT SHOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE OPEN SPACES.
WE DON'T NEED TO BE THE BASKET BREAD BASKET OF NORTH TEXAS.
ANOTHER CONCERN IS HARTLEY FIELD.
THIS WAS A TRAINING BASE FOR GLIDER PILOTS IN WORLD WAR TWO.
SOME GAVE THEIR LIVES ON D-DAY.
ALAN SHEPARD, THE FIRST AMERICAN IN SPACE, WAS TRAINED THERE.
THIS SHOULD BE PRESERVED AND PROTECTED FOR ITS HISTORICAL VALUE.
IT COULD BE A PLACE OF VALUE FOR WIND RECREATION AND EVENTS.
WE CAN BE BETTER, WE CAN DO BETTER, AND WE SHOULD.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS ANNE BECKMAN.
BUT IS DENTON REALLY AN ENVIRONMENTAL CITY? I DO NOT WANT TO MINIMIZE THE EFFORTS MADE BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THESE INITIATIVES.
WE ARE ALSO IN PROGRESS TO BEING A BYRD CITY.
THIS QUOTE WAS SOURCED DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY OF DENTON'S WEBSITE.
OKAY. THIS IS A MAP OF THE NORTHEAST DENTON AREA.
AS WE CAN SEE, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT HABITAT TYPES UPLAND FORESTS, FLOODED FLOODPLAIN FOREST, RIPARIAN FOREST, SHRUBLAND, GRASSLAND, FLOODPLAIN GRASSLAND, RIPARIAN GRASSLAND, SWAMP WETLAND AGRICULTURE STREAMS, AND WATER BODIES.
THIS IS OVER 8000 ACRES OF MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED LAND.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BIRDS AND THE BEES AND THE MONARCHS.
MONARCHS AND BEES, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER SPECIES, UTILIZE THIS HABITAT THAT WE HAVE IN NORTHEASTERN.
THERE. THERE HAS BEEN A DECLINE IN POPULATIONS OF WILDLIFE SPECIES THAT INCLUDES BIRDS LIKE QUAIL AND MEADOWLARKS, AS WELL AS INSECTS LIKE THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY.
BEES AND OTHER POLLINATORS AS THEY THRIVE ON THE DIVERSE PLANT LIFE OF THE GRASSLAND ECOSYSTEM.
ECOSYSTEM SERVICES OF GRASSLANDS.
GLOBALLY, GRASSLANDS ARE ONE OF THE MOST CONVERTED AND LEAST PROTECTED ECOSYSTEMS IN TEXAS.
UM. THESE GRASSLANDS PROVIDE MANY ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.
SERVICES. THEY ARE ADAPTABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGES BECAUSE OF THEIR LONG, DENSE ROOT SYSTEMS. THEY ARE DROUGHT RESISTANT AND STORE CARBON, AS WELL AS CYCLE CARBON BETWEEN THE ABOVE GROUND VEGETATION AND THE SOIL FOR STORAGE.
GRASSLANDS HAVE AN ANNUAL GLOBAL ECONOMIC VALUE OF $20.8 TRILLION.
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DIDN'T ALSO HAS A LIGHTS OUT NIGHTS INITIATIVE AND.SO QUOTED FROM THE DENTON WEBSITE.
AWESOME. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MIGRATORY BIRDS THAT PASS THROUGH DENTON.
OKAY. BUT THEN WE PUT ALL OF THESE.
THAT TAKES US TO CHARLIE COLLIER.
IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
SO LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I SPOKE.
THIS IS A SLIDE FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION I GAVE, JUST SORT OF SHOWING THE CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF HAVE A MORE SOLUTIONS BASED APPROACH HERE.
BUT TEXAS COALITION FOR STATE PARKS, THEY'RE QUOTED WITH SAYING, WITH THE RAPID GROWTH OF TEXAS, WE MUST PROTECT TEXAS'S LAST REMAINING NATURAL AREAS TODAY SO THAT THEY WON'T BE LOST FOREVER TO DEVELOPMENT.
WE'VE ALL HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN HOW ECOLOGICALLY IMPORTANT THE GREENBELT CORRIDOR IS.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ONCE AGAIN, NOVEMBER 7TH, THAT COMES UP TO VOTE.
PROPOSITION 14 ON THE STATE LEVEL, IT'S A $1 BILLION FUND TO EXPAND STATE PARKS.
THERE IS STATE MONEY TO EXPAND STATE PARKS.
TEXAS NEEDS TO ADD 1.4 MILLION ACRES OF STATE PARK LAND BY 2030 TO KEEP UP WITH CURRENT DEMAND.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT LAKE RAY ROBERTS IS THE MOST VISITED STATE PARK IN TEXAS.
IF YOU LOOK HERE, CIRCLED IN RED IS HARTLEY FIELD.
PRETTY MUCH THE DEVELOPMENT AREA OF NORTHEAST DENTON.
THE OUTLINED GREEN IS LAKE RAY ROBERTS MANAGED LAND.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT PRETTY MUCH BORDERS THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
THE IDEA OF USING STATE MONEY TO EXPAND THAT STATE PARK LAND, TO PROTECT THE ECOSYSTEM, TO BASICALLY ADDRESS ALL OF THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR MONTHS, IT SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER.
I JUST BRIEFLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PATH OF GROWTH.
THIS WAS USED IN THE NORTHEAST AREA DENTON DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS A REASON TO DEVELOP NORTHEAST DENTON.
AS YOU CAN SEE, MCKINNEY, FORT WORTH, DALLAS.
THERE'S DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE MOVING INTO NORTHEAST DENTON.
I LOOK AT THIS AND I SEE THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
I LOOK AT ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I SEE A REASON TO PRESERVE THAT AREA.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY STATE PARKS.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PARKS AT ALL.
IF EVERYBODY IF EVERY STATE LEADER AND CITY LEADER DECIDED TO DEVELOP EVERY INCH OF OPEN SPACE.
AS DEVELOPMENT GROWS, AND AS THE TEXAS TRIANGLE BECOMES ONE OF THE LARGEST METROPLEXES IN NORTH AMERICA, WE NEED TO START PRESERVING NOW WHAT MAKES THESE AREAS SPECIAL? SO THIS IS THE SLIDE I ENDED WITH LAST TIME.
THIS IS THE FINAL SLIDE OF THE NORTHEAST DENTON AREA PLAN.
THERE'S THE TWO DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
WE NEED ADVOCATES ON A LOCAL LEVEL IF WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROACHING THE STATE FOR FUNDING TO HELP PRESERVE THESE ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AND HISTORICAL AREAS, THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
WE NEED ADVOCACY ON THE LOCAL LEVEL FROM OUR LOCAL LEADERS.
AND COME ELECTION DAY, OUR BALLOTS WILL BE CAST.
I THINK THAT'S BEEN ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
AND THIS IS A POINT IN HISTORY WHERE ALL OF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY SET A LEGACY FOR DENTON.
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THANK YOU.THANK YOU. NEXT IS LIAM GONG WAKEFIELD.
NOT SO MUCH TO RESPOND TO, LIKE WHAT THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE SAY AND A LOT OF WHAT THEY SAY.
IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S A TREND I'VE BEEN NOTICING WHEN I'VE GONE BACK TO LISTEN TO A LOT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS IS WHEN SOME PEOPLE COME UP HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A MULTIFAMILY.
I NOTICED SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THAT HAVE REALLY STRUCK ME THE WRONG WAY.
LIKE, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A TIME THAT SOMEONE SAID THAT RENTERS AREN'T NEIGHBORS.
AND NOT EVERYBODY BELIEVES THAT HERE.
I HOPE NOT, AND I HOPE THAT'S A VERY MUCH A MINORITY OPINION HERE IN THE CITY OF DENTON.
BUT THERE IS A, I FEEL, LOOKED DOWN UPON WHEN I HEAR THAT.
BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE'RE PEOPLE TOO.
SOMETIMES IT'S OUR ONLY OPTION.
LIKE, IF WE COULD BUY A HOUSE, WE PROBABLY WOULD.
BUT I'D LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT'S FROM THE PAST 40 YEARS.
HOUSING COSTS HAVE NEARLY NEARLY DOUBLED OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS.
AND WHILE I AND I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HERE RIGHT THERE, THAT I THINK THE NORTHEAST DENTON AREA SHOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED, AND I LOVE THE STATE PARK PLAN BECAUSE IT PRESERVES OUR HISTORY AND OUR ECOLOGY.
WE DO HAVE TO HAVE APARTMENT LIKE HOUSING AND HOMES FOR PEOPLE TO COME HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO UNIVERSITIES AND A COLLEGE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME HERE LIKE RIGHT NOW.
AND I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IF THERE'S A VACANCY UP, THEY CAN FILL IT RIGHT NOW AND WE NEED PLACES TO BE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE AREAS THAT WHERE WE HAVE AREAS THAT CAN BE REDEVELOPED TO BE DENSER SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPRAWL OUT.
AND. WE HAVE AND LIKE WE HAVE IN LIKE THE NICE THING ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN A, HAVING MORE PEOPLE IN A DENSER AREA IS THAT IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE IN ALMOST EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD, THROUGH TAX, FROM TAX, FROM TAXES AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT I DO THINK SOMETIMES IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE TO GET.
I YIELD THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.
[4. CONSENT AGENDA]
TAKES US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.THERE'S NOTHING PULLED. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA.
I SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE.
SECOND. BY COUNCILMEMBER BYRD.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.
THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US A REMINDER.
THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS EARLIER.
SO FIVE A WILL NOT TAKE UP THIS EVENING TAKES US TO SIX A WHICH IS ID 231943.
[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2022-2023 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the Health Fund of four million dollars ($4,000,000) for the purpose of funding expenses associated with increased health care costs; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2022-2023 budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023 BUDGET AND ANNUAL PROGRAM OF SERVICES OF THE CITY OF DENTON TO ALLOW FOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE HEALTH FUND OF $4 MILLION.THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE HEALTH FUND BY $4 MILLION FROM 30,786,653 TO 34,786,653, AND THE MAJOR DRIVING ITEMS ARE THE MAJOR ITEMS DRIVING. THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES INCLUDE AN INCREASE IN PHARMACY CLAIMS, AS WELL AS MONTHLY ADMINISTRATIVE FEES PAID TO UNITED HEALTH CARE FOR OUR STOP LOSS INSURANCE OF ABOUT 1.2 MILLION.
AND WITH THAT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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COUNCIL MEMBER BECK. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I SAW IN THE RESPONSES TO COUNCILOR MELTZER'S QUESTION ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL COSTS.CAN YOU GO INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL? BECAUSE IT. I GUESS I JUST MISSED HOW IT WASN'T GOING TO INCUR ADDITIONAL COSTS.
SURE. SO IN ADDITION TO LET ME BACK UP A SLIDE, IN ADDITION TO THE INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES, THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASE IN IN REVENUE AS WELL.
SO OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS ABOUT 33.2 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES AND 32.7 IN REVENUE, BOTH OF WHICH ARE ABOVE BUDGETED LEVELS.
AND SO THAT NET AMOUNT OF ABOUT 500,000 WILL BE DISPERSED ACROSS ALL THE FUNDS YOU KNOW, PROPORTIONALLY, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY HAVE.
NOW, IN THE REMAINING CITY FUNDS, ALL OF THOSE HAVE A SURPLUS.
SO THOSE AMOUNTS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE ABSORBED IN THE IN THE SAVINGS OF THE BUDGETS OF THOSE FUNDS.
SO IT IS AN INCREASE IN THE EXPENDITURES TO OTHER FUNDS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAKE ROOM, I GUESS, BY LOSING SOMETHING ELSE.
YEAH. THERE WAS ALREADY SAVINGS IN THE PRIOR YEAR'S BUDGET SAVINGS, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 500 K OR SO.
THANK YOU. YES, COUNCILMEMBER.
SO THIS REPRESENTS A LITTLE OVER 10% INCREASE OF HEALTH CARE COSTS OVER BUDGETED.
WHEN WE SET THAT BUDGETED AMOUNT OF 30,000,786 LAST TIME, WHAT DID WE BUDGET FOR AS THE INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR? IN OTHER WORDS, THAT 30.
30,000,007 86 REPRESENTS A5267 10% INCREASE FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS? I DO THAT PERCENTAGE.
I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR, WE DID IDENTIFY THAT THESE WERE ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE INCREASED AND ADDRESSED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 HEALTH FUND BUDGET WAS THE 30.7 MILLION NEXT FISCAL YEAR, OR IN THE CURRENT 2024 FISCAL YEAR, IT'S 36 MILLION.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, THE STOP LOSS FEE THAT WE PAY TO.
HOWEVER, WE ALSO PAY AN INSURANCE COMPANY FOR.
JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS.
CORRECT. YEAH. SO FOR ANY CLAIMS THAT ARE OVER $185,000, THOSE ARE 100% REIMBURSABLE TO THE CITY BY UNITED HEALTH CARE. SO WE WE PAY AN INSURANCE PREMIUM SO THAT ANYTHING OVER THAT 185,000 IS CREDITED BACK TO US ON THE BILLS THAT WE RECEIVE.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THE MONTHLY ADMIN FEE PAID TO UNITED FOR STOP, THAT'S THE FEE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS MONTHLY OR YEARLY INSURANCE PREMIUM, IF YOU WILL, TO COVER ANYTHING OVER 185,000.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
DID WE? HOW DID WE COME TO BE AWARE OF THIS SCALE, OF AN INCREASED COST? YOU KNOW, IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
THIS WAS SOMETHING WHERE BOTH THIS AND THE OTHER TWO FUNDS THAT ALL PRESENT, IT APPEARED THAT THEY WOULD BE CLOSER. NOW, THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE A LITTLE FURTHER OFF THE BUDGETED MARK, BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THEM TOGETHER RATHER THAN HAVE SOME IN SEPTEMBER AND SOME NOW.
SO BUT TYPICALLY WE DO BRING THESE FORWARD AT THE SAME TIME PRIOR TO THE BUDGET ADOPTION.
TWO OF THE FUNDS WE WE WERE NOT SURE.
AND AND SO JUST LOOKING AT YEAR END ACTUALS, THOSE FOR RISK AND MATERIALS MANAGEMENT, THOSE THOSE WE WEREN'T SURE THEY WERE VERY CLOSE.
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WE HAD ROOM IN SAVINGS.SHOULD THAT COME UP? YES. YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE ODD, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, OKAY, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN. WHAT'S SO MOVE? COUNCILMAN MCGEE. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WATTS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE.
[B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2022-2023 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the risk retention fund of one million five hundred thousand dollars ($1,500,000) for the purpose of funding expenses associated with increased costs for property insurance claims, vehicle repair claims, and other litigation and legal related expenses; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2022-2023 budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023 BUDGET AND ANNUAL PROGRAM OF SERVICES OF THE CITY OF DENTON TO ALLOW FOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE RISK RETENTION FUND OF $1,500,000.THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE RISK RETENTION FUND BY $1.5 MILLION FROM 7,181,798 TO 8,681,798.
AND I'LL JUST NOTE OF THE OF THE THREE, IT'S REALLY THE LITIGATION FEES THAT ARE DRIVING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFICULT TO FORECAST AND BUDGET FOR.
BUT WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN THE LITIGATION FEES THIS LAST YEAR.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'LL JUST SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE DECISIONS ARE MADE HERE, RIGHT BY AND LARGE, FALLS SQUARELY ON OUR SHOULDERS.
AND IT'S SOMETHING I'M CONSTANTLY MINDFUL OF WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS.
AND THAT'S TAXPAYER MONEY THAT'S GOING TOWARDS THOSE ENDS.
AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THOSE THINGS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING IT OUT AND IT'S A GOOD WAKE UP CALL.
SO AND YOU DON'T WE CAN'T CONTROL THOSE OUTCOMES.
RIGHT. THERE'S SOME WE CAN NOT AVOID GETTING IN.
RUN INTO AND THAT HAS CONSEQUENCES.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
POINTING THAT OUT THAT IS THAT IS NOT EASY BUT IT'S IMPORTANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN BYRD A MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCILMAN HOLLAND.
SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND ANY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.
YES, IF I COULD, I INADVERTENTLY FORGOT TO MENTION IN THE WORK SESSION THAT I'M GOING TO NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM AGENDA ITEM E, SO IF IF YOU KNOW, I'LL SIGN THE PAPERWORK EITHER NOW OR AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
OKAY. YEP. WELL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE CONCLUDING ITEMS, YOU CAN, I JUST SAID.
YOU CAN LEAVE EARLY. I'M JEALOUS.
OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM C6C ID 231947.
[C. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2022-2023 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the Materials Management fund of one million dollars ($1,000,000) for the purpose of funding expenses associated with increased cost of various city warehouse goods including items such as utility equipment, office equipment and supplies, and technology equipment; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2022-2023 budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023 BUDGET.MATT HAMILTON, BUDGET MANAGER, HERE TO PRESENT THE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT FUND BY $1 MILLION FROM $16,723,822 TO $17,723,822.
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THIS IS RELATED TO INVENTORY THAT IS PURCHASED BY THE WAREHOUSE AND SPECIFICALLY RELATED MOSTLY TO UTILITY.LARGE UTILITY PURCHASES OF EQUIPMENT THAT HAVE LONGER LEAD TIMES AND ARE MORE EXPENSIVE TO STOCK.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, SO IN THE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD ON THE FIRST ITEM, YOU KNOW, AND THE SECOND ITEM, WE HAD ISSUES OF HARD TO BUDGET FOR AND HARD TO GET HARD TO NAIL DOWN EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON.
BUT FOR SOME OF THESE ITEMS, I BELIEVE WE SAID WE DID A, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY A 10% YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE FOR A LOT OF THESE. BUT NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 18 MONTH, 24 MONTH.
ARE WE ARE WE BUDGETING ADDITIONAL INCREASES? WE DID.
OKAY. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
MAYOR PRO TEM, I MOVE APPROVAL.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM D ID 231928.
[D. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Techline, Inc., for the purchase of insulated and multi-conductor underground distribution cables for Denton Municipal Electric; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (RFP 8284 - awarded to Techline, Inc., for one (1) year, with the option for four (4) additional one (1) year extensions, in the total five (5) year not-to-exceed amount of $20,000,000.00). The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (5 - 0).]
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH TECH LINE INC FOR THE PURCHASE OF INSULATED AND MULTI INSULATED AND MULTI CONDUCTOR CONDUCTOR UNDERGROUND DISTRIBUTION CABLES.GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
MARIA NIKKI, ELECTRIC ELECTRIC ENGINEERING SUPERVISOR, BRINGING FORWARD AN RFP THAT WE SENT OUT FOR UNDERGROUND CABLE TO SUPPLY 15 AND 25 KV PRIMARY, ALSO OUR 600 VOLT INSULATED SECONDARY CABLE.
WE HAD TECH LINE AND MENA HOLDINGS.
THIS CONTRACT IS A REPLACEMENT FOR A CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE FOR NTA OF 18 MILLION.
THIS CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE IN DECEMBER.
HERE'S A TABLE FOR ESTIMATED SPEND.
WE ESTIMATE TO SPEND AROUND 3.6 MILLION THIS PAST YEAR.
WE DID SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THIS HAD TO DO WITH THE LEAD TIMES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SPEAKING ABOUT.
AND WE RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT WITH TECH LINE FOR AN NC OF $20 MILLION.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNT. MAYOR PRO TEM.
IF WE WERE AT 4.3, THEN WHY AREN'T WE AT 4.3 ON THE TABLES? IF WE THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT WAY THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S KIND OF THE SAME WAY WE DO WITH OTHER ITEMS. SO I EXPECT ONE YEAR TO BE HIGH AND THE NEXT YEAR TO BE LOW.
I EXPECT THIS YEAR TO BE THE SAME.
NEXT YEAR IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCILMAN WATTS. MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS PHOTO ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 7 TO 0.
THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM, ITEM E.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMEMBER WATTS HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.
[E. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with CBS Mechanical Services, Inc., dba CMS Mechanical Services, Inc., for all HVAC labor, materials, tools, equipment, and supervision for various City buildings and to assist with renovations, remodels, and maintenance of existing HVAC systems for the Facilities Management Department; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (RFP 8294 - awarded to CBS Mechanical Services, Inc., dba CMS Mechanical Services, Inc., for one (1) year, with the option for four (4) additional one (1) year extensions, in the total five (5) year not-to-exceed amount of $7,000,000.00).]
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH CBS MECHANICAL SERVICES, INC.GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. TOM GRAHAM, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND FLEET.
HVAC SERVICES FOR SEAMLESS MECHANICAL FOR $7 MILLION.
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EACH LOCATION.OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I KNOW THAT I KNOW IN QUESTIONS TO STAFF, WE RESPONDED TO COUNCILOR MELTZER'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE.
THE SORT OF RELATIVE SYNERGIES OF USING A LARGE COMPANY.
DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE? AND I WISH I'D ASKED THIS BEFORE.
I JUST THOUGHT OF IT. DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR CRUDELY BALLPARK WHAT WE EXPECT THE COST MIGHT BE? HAVE WE GONE WITH 4 OR 5 COMPANIES TO SATISFY OUR DIFFERENT HVAC NEEDS, AS OPPOSED TO ONE LARGE COMPANY THAT CAN SERVICE ALL OUR NEEDS? DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT THE SYNERGY LEVEL IS? YEAH. WELL, ACTUALLY, US MECHANICAL IS ALREADY A SMALL BUSINESS.
IT IS NOT A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER.
SO THEY ARE ONE OF THE SMALLER COMPANIES.
SO THIS SMALL BUSINESS DID WIN THIS BID.
BUT I GUESS, OKAY, I HAD PART OF IT WRONG.
I GUESS I WAS LOOKING MORE AT THE WHAT WAS THE SYNERGY OF GOING WITH ONE COMPANY VERSUS MULTIPLE COMPANIES TO SATISFY THE DIFFERENT HVAC NEEDS? I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MANY BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE A BAG OF CATS, BUT BUT WHAT WHAT ARE THE DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR? WE SAVE 2% 5% BY GOING WITH ONE COMPANY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MELTZER.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WOULD YOU MIND SORT OF SHARING AGAIN WITH THE PUBLIC WHAT? WHY? THIS WAS THE ONLY LOCAL BIDDER THAT WAS QUALIFIED FOR WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE.
BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE THE TENOR OF THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT WOULD HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS.
WE HAVE A WIDE RANGE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL UNITS.
SO WHEN YOU NORMALLY SEE A HVAC COMPANY LOCALLY, THEY MAY ONLY DO RESIDENTIAL AND NOT COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN BY HAVING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES, WE RUN INTO A LARGE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.
WE KNOW IN THE SUMMER HERE IT GETS PRETTY, PRETTY BUSY WITH HVAC UNITS, AND IF WE DO NOT PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN OUR CONTRACTS, WE MAY HAVE A 2 TO 3 DAY TURNAROUND TIME WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS, WITH THE WITH THE CONTRACTORS.
SO TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE EFFECTIVE SERVICES FOR THE CITY, WE'VE PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN.
THEREFORE, SOME OF THE OTHER SMALLER BUSINESSES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT ENDEAVOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. THANK YOU.
IT THE CONTRACT SAYS FOR ALL HVAC.
DOES THAT MEAN ALL? I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THERE'S NOTHING.
THERE'S NOTHING DONE IN HOUSE.
IF ANYTHING IS TOO HOT OR TOO COLD, THE FIRST CALL YOU MAKE IS TO CBS.
THEY GO OUT AND DO THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT.
BUT ONE PERSON FOR ONE POINT 5,000,000FT² OVER 100MI² JUST DOESN'T CUT IT.
SO WE DO NEED THAT CONTRACTOR SUPPORT TO MAINTAIN EFFECTIVE OPERATIONS FOR THE CITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL TAKE A MOTION. OH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM, I MOVE APPROVAL.
I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S AS CLEAR AS IT CAN BE, RIGHT? ONE, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO BIDS.
RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S THE PROCESS.
AND OUR EVALUATION OF THE PROCESS IS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, WHICH IS HOW IT'S DESIGNED TO BE.
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SO WE DON'T GET TO PICK HOW THAT SHAKES OUT.RIGHT. AND SO BUT WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS HOW WE WRITE THOSE CONTRACTS.
RIGHT. YOU GOT TO I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE MINDFULNESS THAT GOES INTO MAKING SURE THE RIGHT SIZE PEOPLE AND QUALIFIED PEOPLE ARE THERE TO TO TAKE CARE OF OUR BECAUSE OUR WORK DOESN'T STOP.
THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND THAT PASSES 6 TO 0 ONE ABSTENTION.
THAT TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS.
[7. CONCLUDING ITEMS]
ANYONE HAVE CONCLUDING ITEMS? MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE TO.I WILL REMIND FOLKS THAT TWU IS HAVING THEIR BOO AT THE U.
ON THURSDAY ON OCTOBER 19TH, AND SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR KIDDOS TO THAT.
I GUESS YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ADULTOS TO THAT TOO.
AND THEN ON THE FOLLOWING DAY, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 20TH IS HAVING THEIR CELEBRATION OF SCIENCE WHERE THEY BRING IN OUTSIDE SPEAKERS TO SORT OF JUST CELEBRATE THE ENTIRE FIELD OF SCIENCE AND ESPECIALLY THE IMPACTS ON T.W.
AND UUA. OKAY, COUNCILOR MELTZER, I'M JUST SHARING THAT.
I SAW ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA THAT GEYSER PALOOZA IS THIS WEEKEND.
YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS TO IT, AND THEY'LL RECOGNIZE THE MUSIC.
APPARENTLY ON INDUSTRIAL STREET SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, ANOTHER DENTON FESTIVAL.
I GET IT NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD.
YEAH. WE LOVE OUR FESTIVALS HERE IN THIS TOWN.
UM, I WANT TO REINFORCE OUR QUAKERTOWN PROJECT THAT WE STARTED.
WE'RE JUST ADDING ADDITIONAL LAYERS TO OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR COMMUNITY IN REGARDS TO GOING ON OUR ONGOING RECONCILIATION PROCESS FOR QUAKERTOWN.
SO WE HAVE AN ENTITY CALLED THE DENTON BLACK FILM FESTIVAL INSTITUTE.
THEY ARE GOING TO PUT ON A FREE COMMUNITY FILM SCREENING ON OCTOBER THE 21ST, AND THE DOORS OPEN AT 330 AT THE TRIANGLE MALL.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A PART OF RAISING FUNDRAISER FOR THIS QUAKERTOWN DOCUMENTARY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOMETHING CALLED RISING THE HALL OF NEGRO LIFE IN STEPS OF FAITH, AND THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR DONATIONS TO GO TOWARDS THIS QUAKERTOWN DOCUMENTARY.
WE'RE SITTING ON QUAKERTOWN PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, AND SO FOR US TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE ANCESTORS OF THESE FOLKS WHILE WE CAN, WE GIVE OUR PEOPLE FLOWERS WHILE WE CAN.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.
AND THEY ALSO SAID IT'S A BRING YOUR OWN QUAKERTOWN PHOTOS.
SOME OF YOU ALL, OR WHOEVER'S LISTENING MAY ASK A GRANDPARENT OR SOME SOMEONE THAT WAS AROUND AT THAT TIME TO GIVE UP THEIR PHOTOS. THEY'RE GOING TO ADD THAT TO THE DOCUMENTARY.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
OKAY. ANY ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CONCLUDING ITEMS. COUNCILMAN. MCGEE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. MISS BYRD, I APPRECIATE YOU LIFTING THAT UP.
I BELIEVE HE WAS 102 YEARS OLD.
HE WAS ONE OF THREE SURVIVING PEOPLE FROM.
FROM THE MASSACRE IN TULSA IN 1921.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU LIFTING UP THE QUAKERTOWN.
I JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY BABY COMING UP ON MONDAY, WHO TURNS NINE YEARS OLD.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CELEBRATING WITH THE FAMILY THIS WEEKEND.
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VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.SO SPEAKING OF WHICH, BUDDY BABY, COME DOWN.
OH, GET YOUR IPAD AND YOUR HEADPHONES.
SO I THINK I WAS REMISS IN SAYING ARTS AND JAZZ FEST.
I THINK I MISSED THAT LAST TIME AND IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THOSE THAT HELP ME WITH NATIONAL NIGHT OUT DAY OF AND OFFICER BECKWITH AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE AND ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PUT ON EVENTS.
HAD A BLAST AND GOT TO TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND THEN MY MIDDLE SCHOOLER WON HER STUCCO ELECTION.
SO SHE'S THE STUCCO PRESIDENT.
SO THAT WAS AWESOME. SHE SHE TOOK SOME ARROWS AND THAT ONE.
BUT ALL'S WELL THAT ENDS WELL.
AND THEN TETRAPAK AND PETERBILT HAD THEIR FAMILY DAY.
SO THAT WAS REALLY NEAT TO SEE IF YOU WERE OUT THERE OVER THE WEEKEND.
SO THAT WAS NEAT TO SEE ALL OF THEM.
AND THE TRUCK PARADE RAISED A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR UNITED WAY.
THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT TURNED OUT AND DONATED.
I MEAN, REALLY, AGAIN, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT EVENTS.
WHAT A GREAT EVENT THAT WAS AND GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE LIKE 50 TO 54 TRUCKS IS AMAZING.
AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY A SHOUT OUT TO MY BUDDY MAYOR AND IN ROANOKE, SCOOTER, THEY HAD THEIR WESTERN DAYS AND HE WAS SO KIND TO HAVE US OUT AND GIVE US A TOUR OF THEIR CITY FACILITIES AND SHOW US WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND JUST KIND OF PICKED UP SOME IDEAS.
LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE FAMILY EVENTS THAT WE DO HERE.
SO I STOLE SOME IDEAS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME JUST KIND OF GOT THE FELLOWSHIP WITH A FELLOW MAYOR.
SO THAT WAS REALLY NEAT. SO I WANT TO LET HIM KNOW I APPRECIATE HIM VERY MUCH.
AND AT 743, THAT'LL CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S MEETING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.