May 21, 2024 City Council on 2024-05-21 2:00 PM

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO PARDON ME THIS MEETING DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 21ST, 2024.

IT IS 2 P.M..

CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS QUESTIONS ON.

[WORK SESSION]

I'LL NOTE THAT ITEM E HAS BEEN PULLED FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.

NO PRESENTATION, AND WE WILL GET A PRESENTATION ON ITEM M IN THIS PORTION.

SO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO MODIFY PER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, HOW I CALL PEOPLE, IT SAYS YOU SHOULD EXCLUDE NAMES.

SOME GO BY POSITIONS.

SO IT'LL BE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE.

I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM B FOR SEPARATE ACTION.

AND IS THERE A PRESENTATION YOU NEED? NO. ALL RIGHT.

AND ANYONE ELSE.

SEEING NONE. OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION.

LET ME GET THERE. OH NO NO NO, NOT NOT OUR FIRST WORK SESSION.

THERE'S A PRESENTATION ON EM.

LET'S GET TO THAT.

LET'S ID 24978.

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DETERMINING UPON THE NECESSITY OF AN ACQUIRING REAL PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF PUBLIC USE THE ACQUISITION OF APPROXIMATELY 0.6565 ACRES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, TREVOR CRANE.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND TODAY I'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE ACQUISITION OF THIS EASEMENT.

SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

THE PROJECT THAT THAT NEEDS THE EASEMENT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A TEX DOT PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING.

SO THE TEX DOT PROJECT WHERE WE'RE THAT WE ARE MOVING THE UTILITIES FORWARD, IS LISTED UP ON THE SCREEN.

IT'S THE I, 3535 EAST 35 WEST MERGE PROJECT.

WANTED TO JUST TELL Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

THIS IS A A ALMOST $600 MILLION PROJECT THAT TEX DOT IS MOVING FORWARD.

IT'S $589 MILLION.

THEY HAVE ALREADY AWARDED THIS TO A CONTRACTOR.

THEY'RE JUST WAITING, AWAITING THEIR NOTICE TO PROCEED DATE TO LET THAT CONTRACTOR START WORK.

SO THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING TO HAVE THIS PROJECT UNDERWAY? BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE.

AND I SAY WE, THE CITY OF DENTON, HAS TO HAVE OUR UTILITIES OUT OF THE WAY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT.

SO THE PROJECT THAT IS ACQUIRING THE EASEMENT IS THE I 35 UTILITY RELOCATIONS.

SO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS UNT.

THE EASEMENTS ARE NEEDED FOR A WATER, WASTEWATER AND ELECTRIC EASEMENTS.

AND THEN JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE THIS EASEMENT WILL BE FULLY IS EXPECTED TO BE FULLY REIMBURSABLE BY TEXDOT.

AND I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE HERE IN A MINUTE.

SO REALLY WANTED TO JUST GO INTO THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SO CURRENTLY THE CITY OF DENTON DOES HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT IS ON THAT HAS COMPLETED A LOT OF THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT.

THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT TO DO IS BEING HELD UP BY THIS EASEMENT.

SO IF WE DO NOT ACQUIRE THIS EASEMENT HERE TONIGHT OR TODAY, MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THEN THAT WILL RESULT IN EITHER DELAY CLAIMS ON THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NOW, KEEPING THAT CONTRACTOR ON BOARD, WAITING UNTIL WE GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS TO ACQUIRE THIS EASEMENT, OR WE'LL HAVE TO TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT FOR CONVENIENCE.

WHICH HAS ITS OWN IMPLICATIONS AS WELL.

AND THEN ONCE WE ACQUIRE THE EASEMENT THROUGH WHATEVER MEANS THAT IS, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK OUT, SELECT A NEW CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT.

JUST THAT LITTLE SMALL PIECE OF THE PROJECT.

THIS DOES HAVE SOME TEXDOT PROJECT DELAYS AS WELL, SOME IMPLICATIONS FOR THAT.

SO THE DELAY OF THE CITY OF DENTON PROJECT WILL, OF COURSE, HAVE A CASCADING EFFECT.

IT WILL DELAY THE CONSTRUCTION START OF TEXDOT, WHICH WILL RESULT IN DELAY CLAIMS ON THAT TEXDOT PROJECT, WHICH IS $569 MILLION OR 89 MILLION, I'M SORRY, $589 MILLION PROJECT.

SO BIG NUMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

THE DELAYS OF THE TEXDOT PROJECT DUE TO OUR UTILITY RELOCATION PROJECT COULD IMPACT FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FROM THE STATE.

AS WELL AS DAMAGING FUTURE COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH TXDOT.

AND THEN IF WE DO NOT GO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THIS PROPERTY THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THEN WE WOULD, OF COURSE, HAVE THE EMINENT DOMAIN, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

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SO FAILURE AGAIN, FAILURE TO ACQUIRE THAT EASEMENT WOULD RESULT IN DELAY CLAIMS. AND GOING THROUGH THE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS, NOT TEXAS.

I'M SORRY UNT UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS WOULD IMPACT FUTURE COLLABORATION.

OF JOINT PROJECTS.

I WILL REITERATE REITERATE THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH TXDOT ABOUT THIS IN LENGTH.

I HAVE EMAILS FROM THEM CONFIRMING THAT THIS, THIS EASEMENT WOULD BE WOULD BE REIMBURSABLE.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PROCEED WITH THE CLOSING OF THE AGREED SETTLEMENT FOR THE $1.6 MILLION, PLUS A CLOSING COST OF $15,000. SO $1,615,000.

AND THEN UPON RECEIPT OF THE SIGNED NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT OFFER WE WOULD GO WE WOULD FINISH THE PROCESS AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BOTH PROJECTS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY PARDON ME, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SECOND DISTRICT.

YEAH. PART OF THE REASON I REACHED OUT TO STAFF ON THIS ONE IS IF YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THE MATH, THE THE LAND VALUES FOR AN EASEMENT ARE KIND OF.

WELL, LET'S JUST SAY THEY'RE EXCESSIVE.

IT'S IT'S LIKE $2.5 MILLION AN ACRE FOR AN EASEMENT.

SO, I MEAN, I GUESS THE FOR THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY THAT THAT REIMBURSEMENT PIECE IS, WAS, IS CRITICAL FOR MY RESPONSIBILITY AS, AS A COUNCILOR.

BUT IT STILL SEEMS LIKE A CRAZY, RIDICULOUS NUMBER THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN EASEMENT ON SOCCER FIELDS.

SURE. SO I WOULD AGREE.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW JUST BASED SOLELY ON WHAT THAT IS, WHEN YOU KIND OF ROPE IN ALL THE IMPLICATIONS THERE ARE TO OUR PROJECT DELAY CLAIMS, AS WELL AS THE TECH START POTENTIAL PROJECT.

YEAH. THEIR PROJECT THEN THAT KIND OF BRINGS THIS MORE INTO LINE.

AND I WILL SAY THAT WE DID GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE UNT TRYING TO GET TO A MORE REASONABLE NUMBER.

AND THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED.

THEY ACTUALLY WALKED AWAY FROM THE TABLE AT ONE POINT.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, WHERE THIS NUMBER CAME FROM.

SO I THINK ONCE YOU IF ONCE YOU WRAP IN ALL THE IMPLICATIONS THAT COULD THAT COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS EASEMENT ACQUIRED THEN IT MAKES THE NUMBER A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE.

BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT IT IS A LARGE NUMBER.

I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE PALMER, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE.

I'M SURE YOU'VE SAID IT, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SAYING IT AGAIN JUST SO I CAN GET IT, HOW WOULD THE WHAT WHAT WOULD TRIGGER THE REIMBURSEMENT? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? SURE. SO WE WOULD GO THROUGH OUR TYPICAL PROCESS WITH WITH TEX DOT.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE WHATEVER MONEY WE SPEND, ESPECIALLY ON EASEMENTS WE HAVE A LIST OF PAPERWORK THAT WE GO THROUGH.

WE TELL, WE GIVE THEM ALL THE SURVEY HOW MUCH IT WAS COST, HOW MUCH THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY COST.

AND THEN WE SHOW THEM ALL THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE WENT THROUGH.

AND AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW OUR OWN PROCESS AND HAVE A, AN AGREED UPON SETTLEMENT, THEN THEY WOULD HONOR THAT REIMBURSEMENT.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER JESTER.

NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION OTHER THAN JUST TO SAY I DO APPRECIATE MULTIPLE STAFF MEMBERS ENGAGING WITH ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SEEMED ON THE FACE UNUSUAL TO WALK ME THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PARTIES AND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, ON, ON, ON OUTSIDE OF OF THESE CHAMBERS AS FAR AS MAKING THIS HAPPEN, THE REASONS AS TO WHY I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT AND THAT THIS IS THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION TODAY.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE THAT WERE WILLING TO, TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH ME ON IT.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT.

NO, THAT'S HEAR BE FOR.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION SO LATE IN THE PROCESS.

SURE. SO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THE WAY THAT THE TEXDOT PROJECTS WORK WE DON'T GET THEIR PLANS UNTIL THEY ARE AT WHAT THEY CALL PLANS ADEQUATE, WHICH ARE 60% DESIGN PLANS.

THAT'S WHEN THEY GIVE US THEIR PLANS AND WE START OUR UTILITY DESIGN PLANS.

SO WE TYPICALLY HAVE A TRUNCATED TIMELINE TO GET OUR UTILITIES OUT THE WAY.

AND I'LL SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN ONCE WE HAVE OUR PLANS WE STARTED GOING THROUGH THIS, THIS EASEMENT PROCESS IMMEDIATELY.

IT'S JUST ONE THAT WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH TEXAS, I MEAN, UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS ON A LOT.

AND SO TYPICALLY WE WOULD NOT GO INTO CONSTRUCTION UNTIL WE HAD ALL OF THE EASEMENTS ACQUIRED TO STAY OUT OF THIS CASE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW TO WHERE WE DON'T GET HELD UP,

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WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT LUXURY IN THIS PROJECT JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE FOR TEXDOT.

THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT ON THE I 35 IN THIS CORRIDOR THAT THEY WERE PUSHING OUT.

AND SO WE WERE IN A TRUNCATED TIMELINE TO GET THIS PROJECT COMPLETED AND GET OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE THEY WERE READY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU.

OH, REPRESENTATIVE OF DISTRICT FIVE.

WHAT'S TIMELINE FOR REIMBURSABLE PAYMENT? SO TYPICALLY I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 3 AND 6 MONTHS.

SO WE REIMBURSE AS, AS COSTS COME IN.

WE'VE ACTUALLY JUST CREATED A NEW POSITION TO WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS BECAUSE IT'S A VERY KIND OF COMPLICATED PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE OUR OWN WHAT WE CALL REIMBURSEMENT SPECIALIST THAT DOES ALL THAT.

FOR TEXDOT, IT'S A LITTLE LONGER JUST BECAUSE THAT PROCESS IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.

REALLY DEPENDS ON THE, THE THE ENTITY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

SO WHETHER IT'S COUNTY TRIP TEXDOT.

SO TYPICALLY WITHIN THE 3 TO 6 MONTHS, IS THE $15,000 IN CLOSING COSTS ALSO RECOVERABLE? YES, SIR. FULLY. YES, SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR FOR THE BACKGROUND ON THIS TRIP.

NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO THE.

I HAD ONE MORE THING BEFORE.

SO A QUESTION FOR LEGAL ITEM F, WHICH IS ID ID 241074.

PARDON ME. OBVIOUSLY THIS THIS THERE WAS A REPORT ABOUT THIS THAT, THAT WFAA NEWS REACHED OUT TO ME, ONE OF TWO RESPONSES TO THEM FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT TWO WAS THAT THERE'S A $50,000 LEGAL ASSOCIATE CHARGE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IN THAT SAME ARTICLE I REPRESENT.

THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT LEGAL FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO GET THAT RIGHT.

SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND FROM YOU WHAT ARE THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS PARDON ME, FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS TIED TO THIS TO THIS MEASURE.

YEAH. MAYOR. HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

THERE'S TWO PARTS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

WHAT YOU'LL BE AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO DO, WHICH IS PROCEED WITH FILING A MOTION PURSUANT TO 5.0261 OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE.

THAT CODE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THERE IS NO FILING COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BEING FILED WITH THE DISTRICT COURT.

IT ALSO SAYS IF THE DISTRICT COURT MAKES FINDINGS OF FACT AND RULINGS ON THAT, THAT THAT IS THEN TRANSFERRED TO THE DEED RECORDS, BUT THERE'S NO FILING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL. SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, IF ANY WOULD BE DE MINIMIS.

BUT I DON'T EXPECT ANY COST TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH FILING THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR AS WELL TO, TO STEP US THROUGH, RECOGNIZE WHO ON YOUR TEAM DID WHAT OR JUST KIND OF IT'S A SIGNIFICANT OUTCOME POTENTIALLY.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHO ON YOUR TEAM DID WHAT.

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

BASED ON YOUR TWO MINUTE PITCH, WE WORKED WITH IT.

BENJAMIN SAMPLES, WHO'S MY FIRST ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

REALLY TOOK THE LEAD ON GETTING THE RESEARCH DONE ON THE REAL ESTATE SIDE OF THINGS.

HE'S ALSO DOES REAL ESTATE FOR OUR OFFICE.

WE ALSO HAD DEVIN ALEXANDER, WHO'S OUR LITIGATION ATTORNEY.

HE REALLY DID A GOOD JOB OF LOOKING AT THE LITIGATION COMPONENT OF THIS AND WHAT WILL BE INVOLVED ON THAT FRONT.

SO THEY BOTH PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO TO MAKING SURE THAT THIS REACHED THE EXPECTATIONS OF AT LEAST THE COUNCIL AND THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVE FROM COUNCIL.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

AND SO THAT CONCLUDES CONSENT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION ITEM.

GET THERE. OF WHICH WE GOT IT.

OKAY. FIRST ITEM IS ITEM THREE A ID 24113.

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding potential subject matter to be discussed by a future Charter Review Committee. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time : 30 minutes]]

GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING POTENTIAL SUBJECT MATTER TO BE DISCUSSED BY FUTURE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

KRISTY FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF.

TODAY I'LL BE PRESENTING THE CHARGES DERIVED FROM WHAT WERE OUR LAST FOUR SESSION, FOUR WORK SESSIONS ON CHARTER PROVISIONS.

WITH YOUR FEEDBACK AND APPROVAL TODAY, THESE CHARGERS CHARGES WILL BE ISSUED TO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE BY RESOLUTION AT THE JUNE 4TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, FOLLOWED BY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS.

AND I'LL BRIEFLY REVIEW THE CHARGES AS DRAFTED AND THEN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT PROCESS.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE A FEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON WITH COUNCIL DIRECTION, AND THOSE QUESTIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION FOLLOWING THE

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ON FEBRUARY 20TH, COUNCIL SELECTED PRIORITY CHARTER PROVISIONS TO REVIEW AND SUBSEQUENT WORK SESSIONS.

ON MARCH 19TH, WE REVIEWED ARTICLE TWO, SECTIONS 2.01, THE NUMBER SELECTION AND TERM, AND SECTION 2.02, THE QUALIFICATION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. BOTH SECTIONS RECEIVED CONSENSUS ON SEVERAL ITEMS FOR COMMITTEE CHARGES.

ON APRIL 2ND, WE REVIEWED THREE SECTIONS IN ARTICLE 14 GENERAL PROVISIONS, SECTION 1403, THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER.

SECTION 1404, THE ETHICS ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, AND SECTION 1416.

BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ONLY.

SECTION 1404 THE ETHICS ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, RECEIVED CONSENSUS FOR A COMMITTEE CHARGE.

ON APRIL 16TH, WE REVIEWED ARTICLE FOUR SECTION 12 RECALL PETITION COMMITTEE OF PETITIONERS, WHICH RECEIVED CONSENSUS FOR A COMMITTEE CHARGE. AND THEN ON MAY 7TH, YOU HEARD FROM JUDGE ATKINSON ON ARTICLE SIX, SECTION THREE, THE MUNICIPAL COURT, AND THERE WAS CONSENSUS FOR A COMMITTEE CHARGE.

BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THEM.

JUST A QUICK NOTE THAT THESE CHARGES WERE DIRECTLY DERIVED FROM THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSIONS.

THE CHARGES ONLY INCLUDE ITEMS THAT WERE THAT RECEIVED CONSENSUS DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

THERE WERE VARIOUS OTHER ITEMS THAT DID NOT RECEIVE CONSENSUS THAT INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY WISH TO PUT FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND WHEN WE BEGIN THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT PROCESS AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THROUGH YOUR APPOINTMENTS, YOU CAN IMPART THAT INFORMATION TO THEM.

YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF THE CHARGES IN YOUR AGENDA MATERIALS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO FOLLOW ALONG THAT WAY.

SO THESE ARE THE FIRST THREE JUST CHARTER PERFECTING CHARGES TO RESOLVE CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW, RESOLVE VAGUE OR UNCLEAR LANGUAGE, AND REPLACE INSTANCES OF GENDERED LANGUAGE WITH NON-GENDERED LANGUAGE.

AND THEN THESE WERE THE FOUR CHARGES DERIVED FROM SECTIONS 2.01 AND 2.02.

TO CONSIDER MODIFYING THE MIX OF SINGLE MEMBER AND AT LARGE DISTRICTS.

TO CONSIDER INCREASING THE TWO YEAR TERM TO 3 OR 4 YEARS.

TO CONSIDER THE NEED OF NEW COUNCIL SEATS BASED ON POPULATION SIZE AND PROJECTED GROWTH, AND TO CONSIDER MODIFYING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL STIPEND.

FOR SECTION 4.12.

THE CHARGE TO THE COMMITTEE IS TO CONSIDER REQUIREMENT OF A STATEMENT LESS THAN 200 WORDS ON THE GROUNDS OF REMOVAL FOR RECALL PETITIONS.

AND FOR SECTION 6.03, THE CHARGE.

THE COMMITTEE IS TO CONSIDER INCREASING THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE'S TERM FROM 2 TO 4 YEARS.

AND THEN FINALLY, SECTION 1404 CHARGES THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER MODIFYING THE ETHICS ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.

AND A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THIS.

THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WILL NOT BE OPENING THE ETHICS ORDINANCE ITSELF FOR REVISION.

INSTEAD, THE CHARTER LISTS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ETHICS ORDINANCE, SO THOSE ITEMS WILL BE REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED FOR MODIFICATION AND NOT THE ENTIRE ETHICS ORDINANCE.

SO THAT CONCLUDES THE CHARGES AS DRAFTED.

I'LL QUICKLY PAUSE FOR ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND A FEW OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE.

THANK YOU. I'M SURMISING THIS IS ALL A QUESTION THAT YOU SAID WHAT YOU DID ABOUT THE ETHICS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S AN ORDINANCE.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE CHARTER.

CORRECT. SO IT'S THE PART OF THE CHARTER THAT THEY CAN REVISIT.

CORRECT. THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY? OKAY.

OKAY, SO GOT A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE COUNCIL DIRECTION ON.

THE FIRST IS THE SCOPE OF THE COMMITTEE.

THIS HAS BEEN ALLUDED TO AND DISCUSSED, BUT WANT TO CONFIRM WITH COUNCIL IF THE COMMITTEE SCOPE SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THE SECTIONS IDENTIFIED IN THESE COMMITTEE CHARGES, OR IF THE SCOPE SHOULD ALLOW FOR REVIEW OF ADDITIONAL ARTICLES AND SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER.

SO IS THERE A MAJORITY IN SUPPORT OF OPTION TWO OR WHO'S NOT IN FAVOR OF OPTION TWO? THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED.

SO REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX.

AND AND FORGIVE ME, THIS IS MY FIRST WORK SESSION, SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GROUNDWORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT I'VE NOT BEEN A PART OF, AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT. BUT IN MY OPINION, THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE PLACING ON THE MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER COMMITTEE SHOULD BE SET REALISTICALLY.

AND MY FEAR IS, IS THAT IF WE GO WITH OPTION TWO VERSUS HAVING IF THERE ARE SUGGESTIONS FOR OTHER AREAS THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.

THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW UP FRONT, MYSELF INCLUDED, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, AS WELL AS ANYONE THAT I WOULD ASK TO SERVE AS A REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS

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THEREFORE, MY THINKING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ALREADY THE CHARGES HAVE BEEN VETTED.

WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL MATTERS THAT SHOULD BE PUT FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS THAT, YOU KNOW RUNAWAY MEMBERS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE MORE TIME THAN IS NECESSARY.

AND THAT WAS EXPECTED IN THESE TYPES OF OBLIGATIONS.

ALREADY IT SEEMS THAT THE TIME COMMITMENT IS IS SIGNIFICANT, AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

BUT IF WE OPEN IT UP TO ANYTHING, I'M AFRAID THAT THERE COULD BE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE THAT MAYBE DON'T USE PEOPLE'S TIMES WISELY, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE TO BRING UP OTHER AREAS AS NEEDED.

AND THAT'S MY $0.02.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO, THEN DISTRICT FIVE.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP DEMONSTRABLY BEFORE THE CURRENT SESSIONS WAS THERE WERE SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER THAT REQUIRED THAT WERE LINKED, THAT WERE CONNECTED AND WOULD BE MORE FACILELY DISPOSED OF.

IF WE TREATED THE THE CONCEPT AS THAT WE WERE WE ASKED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE TO REVIEW VERSUS BEING RIGIDLY ASSOCIATED WITH PARTICULAR SECTIONS.

AND I THINK WE NEED THAT FLEXIBILITY WHERE ONE SECTION MENTIONS ANOTHER SECTION AND IT'S MORE OF A CLEANUP THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD THE SCOPE REALLY TIGHTLY AND CLEARLY DELINEATED IS PROBABLY ENOUGH OF A MISSION.

I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT HOW THOSE MIGHT COME ABOUT.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS, THIS IS A COMMITTEE WHOSE RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO COME BACK TO US.

SO EVEN IF THEY GO YOU KNOW, AND THESE ARE MY WORDS, NOT ANYONE ELSE'S, EVEN IF THEY GO ROGUE AND SUGGEST A WHOLE BUNCH OF OF CHANGES THAT WILL, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO REACH CONSENSUS TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION COME FORWARD TO US.

AND IN THAT SENSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE FINAL ARBITERS OF WHAT GOES ON THE BALLOT.

SO IN THE END, IT WILL BE THERE'S MULTIPLE CHECKPOINTS ALONG THE WAY THAT WILL WILL HELP GUIDE THAT PROCESS.

SO I'M A FAN OF OPTION TWO.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE.

EITHER CHRISTIE OR MISS CITY MANAGER.

I APPRECIATE THE POINTS.

MY FRIEND FROM DISTRICT SIX BROUGHT UP, HAVING NEVER BEEN A PART OF A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MYSELF.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THE CONSULTANT PUTTING UP SOME SOME GUIDELINES AND RAILING BUMPER RAILS ABOUT HOW THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO WORK? YEAH. SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON USING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT.

SO STAFF WILL BE MONITORING AND WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE DIRECTLY MYSELF MAX TEAM WITH LEGAL.

AND THEY WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE TYPICAL COMMITTEE PROCESS.

NOTHING WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITHOUT FULL CONSENSUS FROM THE OR MAJORITY CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY, TWO THIRDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT FOUR.

I'D BE IN FAVOR OF OPTION ONE.

THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ONCE.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE.

LET ME SEE. NO.

THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

REPRESENTATIVE OF DISTRICT ONE, THEN DISTRICT THREE.

I'M GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF OPTION TWO.

DISC THREE. YEAH.

WE DON'T WE DON'T DO THIS VERY OFTEN.

AND I WANT TO GET SORT OF ALL THE VALUE THAT PEOPLE BRING.

I TAKE THE POINTS ADVISEDLY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER.

ROBERT'S RULES CONSTRAIN HOW FAR AFIELD YOU CAN GO IN TERMS OF HOW MANY MINUTES FOR DEBATE.

BUT I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE CONSENSUS AROUND AND AND, AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER BECK SAYS, IT DOES ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO US.

SO I'M FOR TWO.

OKAY. THE REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

YOU DIDN'T GIVE DIRECTION.

SO I NEED DIRECTION FROM YOU TOO.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

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NEXT. OKAY.

SHOULD THE COMMITTEE APPOINT A CHAIR AND PRO PRO CHAIR PRO TEM UPON CONVENING? OR WOULD COUNSEL SHOULD COUNCIL APPOINT A CHAIR AND CHAIR PRO TEM PRIOR TO THE FIRST CONVENING OF THE MEETING? OKAY. DIRECTION FOR STAFF.

JUST OPEN IT UP. REPRESENTATIVE.

DISTRICT TWO. I'M IN FAVOR OF LETTING THE COMMITTEE OPTION ONE, LETTING THEM HAVE A FIRST MEETING AND FIGURE OUT THE FLEXIBILITY OF OF WHO THEY WANT TO LEAD AND HOW THEY WANT TO DO THAT, AND LET THAT, THAT SOCIAL INTERACTION GOVERN COHESIVENESS GOING FORWARD.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY OPTION ONE.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR THEN FIVE.

OPTION ONE.

OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FIVE ONE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT THREE.

ONE. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT ONE.

OPTION ONE. OKAY.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? GREAT. OKAY.

NEXT AND LAST ONE.

SHOULD COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS BE CHOSEN FROM A MEMBER'S RESPECTIVE DISTRICT, OR SHOULD COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS NOT HAVE ANY GEOGRAPHICAL RESTRICTIONS? OKAY REPRESENTATIVE.

DISTRICT ONE, THEN DISTRICT THREE, OPTION ONE.

DISTRICT THREE. TWO.

ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE, FOUR AND TWO.

OPTION ONE.

WELL. OKAY.

REPRESENTATIVE FIVE. QUESTION.

YES, SIR. HOW WOULD THE THREE AT LARGE MEMBERS DO THIS? WOULD WE DO THIS FROM? WOULD I PICK SOMEONE FROM 1 OR 2 AND THEN SHE'D PICK SOMEONE FROM 3 OR 4.

HOW WOULD WE EVEN ACCOMPLISH THIS? I THINK IT JUST BECOMES MOOT.

OKAY. JUST DOESN'T MATTER.

RIGHT? I MEAN, IT WON'T AFFECT HOW YOU DO IT.

MY MY READING.

OH. SO WE. OH, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT.

THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR THEM. THE FOUR OF THEM, BASICALLY.

AM I WRONG? NO.

OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL THEN I GUESS OPTION TWO THEN.

NO OKAY.

RESTRICTIONS. I DON'T ANYONE ELSE.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

YEAH, YEAH, I THINK GIVEN THE NEED FOR FLEXIBILITY AGAIN, WHERE YOU YOU TRY TO DO YOUR BEST TO REPRESENT THE CITY, BUT YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS EVERYONE THAT YOUR FIRST CHOICE WOULD NOT ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE.

I THINK THAT OPTION TWO IS THE BETTER ONE.

REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT SIX.

COUNCILPERSON. JESTER.

MY THOUGHTS ARE WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS REPRESENTED IF IF NOT IN AN INSTANCE LIKE THIS? SO I THINK MY THOUGHT IS OPTION OPTION ONE.

OKAY. THEN.

LET ME GET THERE. THREE AND THREE.

I'LL JUST DO OPTION ONE.

THAT THAT'LL CARRY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

SO WITH THAT INFORMATION, STAFF SHOULD BE READY AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO BRING BACK A RESOLUTION ISSUING THE CHARGE AND BEGIN THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT PROCESS.

AND THEN JUST REALLY QUICKLY SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMITTEE.

THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WILL BE MADE UP OF 14 INDIVIDUALS.

EACH COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMITTEE.

NOMINATIONS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE VIA EMAIL BY JULY 2ND.

YOUR NOMINATIONS WILL BE VETTED BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND THEN PLACED ON COUNCIL AGENDAS.

BETWEEN JUNE 18TH AND JULY 16TH, EIGHT COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL CONSTITUTE A QUORUM, AND ALL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE MADE BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE WHOLE COMMITTEE.

THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO CREATE SUBCOMMITTEES, AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF SUBCOMMITTEES WILL BE APPROVED BY A MAJORITY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.

AND THEN JUST SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR COUNCIL AS YOU MAKE YOUR NOMINATIONS.

NOMINEES MUST BE 18 YEARS OF AGE AND A RESIDENT OF THE CITY.

THE TIME COMMITMENT INCLUDES A MINIMUM OF EIGHT MEETINGS BI WEEKLY FROM JULY TO DECEMBER.

MEETING DATES AND TIMES WILL BE SET LATER TO ACCOMMODATE SCHEDULES, BUT WILL LIKELY BE 1 TO 2 HOURS IN PERSON ON A WEEKDAY EVENING, AND THERE MAY ALSO BE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT APPOINTEES ARE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN.

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AND THEN FINALLY, THIS IS JUST A RECAP OF THE TIMELINE MOVING FORWARD.

AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL WILL ISSUE FINAL CHARGES TO THE COMMITTEE AND BEGIN MAKING APPOINTMENTS.

JULY 2ND IS THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT YOUR NOMINATIONS TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

IN MID TO LATE JULY.

THE COMMITTEE WILL BEGIN MEETING BI WEEKLY THROUGH MID NOVEMBER, AND THEN IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, THE COMMITTEE WILL HAVE THREE WORK SESSIONS TO PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. DURING THESE WORK SESSIONS, COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN IN DECEMBER, COUNCIL WILL APPROVE FINAL AMENDMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE VOTERS.

COUNCIL WILL CALL THE ELECTION IN EARLY JANUARY 2025 AND WILL LAUNCH AN INFORMATIONAL CAMPAIGN THROUGH THE ELECTION DATE, WHICH WILL BE SATURDAY, MAY 3RD.

AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL BE DISSOLVED FOLLOWING THE ELECTION.

AND WILL THE MEETINGS BE STREAMED LIVE? DO YOU KNOW? THEY CAN'T.

THEY MAY.

THEY WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE'LL HAVE TO. WE'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.

BUT. OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU CAN JUST LET THAT KNOW.

AND THEN THAT'S MY SECOND POINT THAT IT IS CONFIRMING ITS OPEN MEETING.

ANYONE CAN GO. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF THERE'S IF WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING MISSED, WE CAN ATTEND THAT MEETING AND INTRODUCE THAT TO OR MAKE THAT PLEA OR ASK FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.

THEY MAY OR MAY NOT FORGET WHERE WE LANDED.

THEY MAY OR MAY NOT ACT ON IT.

BUT EITHER WAY, YOU CAN ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

BE HEARD. YES. GOT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE.

WHAT? YES.

QUESTION. BASED OFF OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH FOR BOND.

STAFF ALSO GOT SOME APPOINTMENTS.

ANY REASON WHY THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT? IS THAT BEEN TYPICAL OF PAST CHARTERS? DISINFORMATION. I'M NOT.

I'M NOT AWARE THAT THERE ARE STAFF APPOINTMENTS.

FOR A CHARTER COMMITTEE.

NOT. NOT IN MY EXPERIENCE, NO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE.

CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF GO BACK ONE MORE.

ONE MORE THAT.

WHAT DID WE LAND ON THERE? I MISSED IT. OPTION ONE ON NUMBER ONE.

APPOINTMENTS SHOULD BE CHOSEN FROM A MEMBER'S RESPECTIVE DISTRICT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT THREE.

YEAH. IN PAST COMMITTEES, SOMETIMES THERE ARE THERE AREAS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE WHO SERVES ON SOME OF THEIR BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS, BUT NOT OTHERS.

WHAT WHAT RULES LIKE THAT WOULD APPLY HERE? I'M NOT SURE THERE WOULD BE.

IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO.

OH, YOU GOT TO COME UP TO THE TO THE.

THANK YOU. HI.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AMANDA BROWN, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE BOARD OF COMMISSION TO WHICH THEY'RE APPOINTED.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S APPOINTED TO A SPECIFIC BOARD, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH BOARD TO SEE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONFLICT.

THERE ARE SOME BOARDS WHERE MEMBERS AREN'T ALLOWED TO SERVE ON OTHER BOARDS.

OKAY. I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT WE GET THAT LIST BEFORE WE MAKE APPOINTMENTS, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN BE COGNIZANT OF WHERE WHERE THE RULES SAY WE CAN'T.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'D WANT TO TRY TO GET NEW VOICES, YOU KNOW, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR TALENT POOL IS LIMITED, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BUMP INTO SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.

REPRESENTATIVE OF DISTRICT FOUR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE KEN, DO YOU DO YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WHAT SOME OF THOSE BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS ARE THAT THAT DON'T ALLOW I KNOW ON THE SERVICE PLANNING AND ZONING, THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT ONLY PLANNING, PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS CAN ONLY BE ON THAT BOARD.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THEM.

OKAY. AND YOU THINK THERE'S MORE? THERE MAY BE ONE MORE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES ITEM TAKES ITEM BE ID 24997.

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the updates to Roadway Impact Fees. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE UPDATES TO THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

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AND WE ARE TO HERE TO BRING AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS FOR THE CITY OF DENTON ROADWAY IMPACT FEE UPDATES.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SUBJECT MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT WITH THE NEW COUNCIL BODY ELECTED, WE FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO COME BACK AND REINTRODUCE IT AND GET A NEW CONSENSUS FROM THIS BODY AS IT IS. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, HERE COMES MR. PETE KELLY. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS BRETT SAID, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO WHERE WE ARE.

ALSO TO A QUICK RECAP OF THE BASICS OF IMPACT FEES.

MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S CAUGHT UP ON THE SAME PAGE.

GO OVER SOME OF THE STUDY UPDATES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE WE LAST DISCUSSED THIS TOPIC AND THE RESULTS, AND GO OVER THAT WITH YOU AND HAVE DISCUSSION.

JUST AS A REMINDER, IMPACT FEES ARE A ONE TIME ASSESSMENT CHARGED TO NEW DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THE CITY TO FUND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, IN THIS CASE ROADWAYS AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

THE COMPONENTS OF THE IMPACT FEE STUDY INCLUDE SERVICE AREAS, LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS OR GROWTH PROJECTIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, PLAN PLANS, OR IN OTHER WORDS, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS SERVICE UNITS AND THE MAXIMUM FEE CALCULATION.

SO THE SERVICE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE FIVE SERVICE AREAS IN DENTON FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

THESE WERE ESTABLISHED IN 2016 WITH MINOR UPDATES IN THIS CURRENT STUDY TO RECOGNIZE ANNEXATIONS SINCE THEN.

CHAPTER 395 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE STIPULATES THAT A ROADWAY SERVICE AREA MUST BE NO MORE THAN SIX MILES IN SIZE.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE FIVE SEPARATE SERVICE AREAS IN THE CITY.

IN EACH SERVICE AREA.

WE DID A SEPARATE GROWTH PROJECTION FOR LAND USE.

WE DID PROJECTIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS NON RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND THESE ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE.

AND THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDED IN THE STUDY.

AND ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WENT INTO INTO THESE NUMBERS OR IN THE STUDY AS WELL.

AFTER COMPLETING THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS WHICH PROJECTED THE GROWTH IN THE TEN YEAR WINDOW, WE MOVED FORWARD TO COMPLETE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

STATE LAW SAYS THAT THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE BASED ON AN ADOPTED PLAN, AND THE ROADWAY CIP IS BASED OFF OF THE MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2022. AND SO ALL THE COSTING METHODOLOGY, EVERYTHING IS BASED OFF OF THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS AND LANE CONFIGURATIONS IN THE MOBILITY PLAN.

FROM THERE, WE DEVELOPED FIVE SEPARATE ROADWAY SIPS FOR THE FIVE SERVICE AREAS.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE SHOWING THE ROADWAY SIP AND SERVICE AREA B, JUST SHOWING THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECT TYPES IN EACH SERVICE AREA, INCLUDING NEW ROADS AND WIDENING EXISTING ROADS UP TO CAPACITY TO MATCH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

BUT NOT EVERY THOROUGHFARE IN THE CITY IS A ROADWAY IMPACT FEE SIP PROJECT BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE BUILT OUT.

SO TO COVER THE METHODOLOGY.

AND I'VE QUICKLY GONE OVER LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS AND SIP.

ESSENTIALLY, WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE PROJECTED AND THE COST THAT WE'VE CALCULATED BASED ON OFF THE NEED FOR NEW ROADS IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE DIVIDE THE RECOVERABLE COST OF THE SIP.

I'LL SAY. I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR A MOMENT, JUST TO SAY THAT THE RECOVERABLE COST OF THE SIP DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COST TO FIX EXISTING DEFICIENCIES.

IT ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COST OF CAPACITY BEYOND THE TEN YEAR WINDOW.

STATE LAW LIMITS US TO A TEN YEAR WINDOW ONLY.

SO WE TAKE THAT COST, AND WE DIVIDE THAT BY THE GROWTH IN NEW SERVICE UNITS OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WHICH COMES FROM THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS.

AND AFTER THAT, WE HAVE A FINANCIAL SUB THAT EXCUSE ME, A FINANCIAL CONSULTANT THAT HELPED US TO DO A DETAILED FINANCIAL CREDIT CALCULATION TO CALCULATE THE IMPACT OF AD VALOREM TAXES ONCE THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO CALCULATE A MAXIMUM FEE, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES. BEFORE I GET THERE, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF STUDY UPDATES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE LAST VERSION OR ITERATION THAT YOU'VE SEEN.

ONE OF THESE IS FOR A LOT OF THE ROADS THAT MAY BE ON THE BORDER OF TWO SERVICE AREAS OR ON THE BETWEEN THE CITY LIMITS AND THE ETJ BOUNDARIES. SOME OF THEM ARE APPEAR TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD.

SOME OF THEM ARE FULLY IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THE SEAWOLF ROAD HERE, WE HAD AS 100% IN THE CITY LIMITS.

IT WAS POINTED OUT TO US BY ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THIS IS 50%.

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AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE IN MEETINGS WITH HUNTER RANCH AND COLE RANCH WE UPDATED OUR METHODOLOGY FOR HOW RECOGNIZING THE ROADS THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BUILDING WITHOUT CITY PARTICIPATION.

SO PRIOR, THE METHODOLOGY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT CAPACITY THAT WAS BEING PROVIDED, ESSENTIALLY LOOKED AT THEM AS AS INTERNAL ROADWAYS, JUST SERVING THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.

THE UPDATED METHODOLOGY INCLUDES THE CAPACITY BEING PROVIDED BY THOSE ROADS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COST, AS THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE TAKING ON THE COST OF BUILDING THOSE ROADS. SO THAT THAT IS THE UPDATE TO OUR METHODOLOGY.

AND THOSE IMPACTS ARE MOSTLY SEEN IN SERVICE AREAS A AND B, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO OUR PREVIOUS MAXIMUM FEE PER VEHICLE MILE IS SHOWN IN THE TOP ROW, AND OUR UPDATED MAXIMUM FEE PER VEHICLE MILE IS SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM ROW.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAXIMUM FEE PER VEHICLE MILE DID GO DOWN IN SERVICE AREA A AND B WITH THAT UPDATED METHODOLOGY.

SO IN THIS SLIDE AGAIN THAT'S THIS IS PER VEHICLE MILE HERE.

AND AS A REMINDER WE, WE TAKE THAT COST AND MULTIPLY IT BY A FACTOR OF NUMBER OF VEHICLE MILES PER LAND USE DEVELOPMENT UNIT.

AND SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USE.

SINGLE FAMILY HOME, A 250 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, A SHOPPING CENTER, AN OFFICE BUILDING, AND A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

ON THE FIRST TWO COLUMNS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE ARE THE MAXIMUM FEE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ADOPTED IN 2016.

20% OF THAT FEE WAS ADOPTED FOR RESIDENTIAL, 10% FOR NON RESIDENTIAL.

AND ON THE RIGHT THE RIGHT SIX COLUMNS ARE THE FIVE COLLECT RATE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY.

COMPARED TO THE MAXIMUM ASSESSABLE FEE.

AND THE FA FOR THIS.

RIGHT. MOST RIGHT MOST COLUMN.

AND SO WE HAVE THESE RANGE FROM 20% TO 60%.

SO FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BASED OFF OF PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL, IS AT THE 20% COLLECTION RATE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND 10% FOR NON RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE CITYWIDE A COLLECTION RATE FOR OF $3,673 PER SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND THIS IS THE SAME COMPARISON DATA THAT WE'VE PROVIDED PROVIDED BEFORE OF OTHER CITIES.

AND WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING IN EITHER AVERAGE OR CERTAIN SERVICE AREAS WITHIN THEIR CORPORATE LIMITS.

SHOWING THIS, THAT 20% IS RIGHT AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THESE CITIES, MAYBE SLIGHTLY BELOW.

TO RECAP, WE DID GO BACK TO CIC IN MARCH AND CIC, THROUGH THEIR DISCUSSION, RECOMMENDED A 50% COLLECTION RATE WITH AN ANNUAL ESCALATION UP TO 80%.

THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION IN DECEMBER WAS THE PREVIOUS 20% USING THE PRIOR METHODOLOGY, THAT WAS AT 41, 56 A HOUSE.

SO WHICH WOULD NOW BE ABOUT 23% OF THE NEW CITYWIDE AVERAGE MAX FEE WITH THE NON RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION RATE STILL AT HALF THE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION RATE, AND ALSO AN ANNUAL EVALUATION TO DETERMINE PERCENTAGE INCREASES.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION AGAIN IS 20% FOR RESIDENTIAL AND 10% FOR NON RESIDENTIAL.

JUST TO COVER SOME NEXT STEPS.

A RESOLUTION WILL BE PUT FORTH ON JUNE 4TH TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES TO OCCUR ON JULY 16TH, FOR APPROVAL OF THE IMPACT FEES AND ADOPTION OF THE UPDATED ORDINANCE WITH A PROPOSED EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY 1ST OF 2025.

WITH THAT. WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT ON THE THE COLE AND HUNTER RANCH BIT.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ROADWAYS WOULD BE TREATED AS INTERNAL ROADWAYS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST DOESN'T GO INTO THE CALCULATION, BUT BUT THE CAPACITY DOES.

I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT.

I CAN'T QUITE FIGURE THE ALGEBRA THERE.

HOW DOES IT ULTIMATELY AFFECT THE NUMBER? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

AND IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THIS AGREEMENT WHICH CALLS OUT A CARVE OUT, NOT A CARVE OUT.

IT CALLS OUT CERTAIN CALCULATIONS BE DONE IN THE IMPACT FEE STUDY WHICH IS WHICH IS A UNIQUE THING AMONG CITIES THAT WE'VE DONE

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IN THE AGREEMENT, THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF ROADS.

THERE ARE ROADS THAT ARE BEING BUILT BY THE DEVELOPMENTS EXCLUSIVELY.

THERE ARE ROADS THAT ARE BEING BUILT BY THE CITY WITH DEVELOPMENT, PARTICIPATION.

AND THE ORIGINAL APPROACH WAS TO ONLY INCLUDE THOSE ROADS THAT ARE BEING BUILT BY THE CITY WITH DEVELOPMENT, PARTICIPATION.

THE DEVELOPMENTS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH US NOTED THAT WE'RE INCLUDING THE, THE GROWTH OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IN ORDER TO BE CONGRUENT, WE SHOULD INCLUDE THE CAPACITY BEING PROVIDED BY THOSE ROADWAYS AND THAT OTHER RESIDENTS OR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THOSE AREAS WILL WILL USE THOSE ROADS TO AN EXTENT THAT THEY'RE NOT ENTIRELY INTERNAL.

AND SO THAT WAS THE THE MAIN CHANGE IS THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT CAPACITY BEING PROVIDED IN THE CALCULATIONS.

BUT YES, NOT NOT THE COST.

SO ESSENTIALLY WITH A GREATER CAPACITY BEING PROVIDED IT REDUCES THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL COST THAT CAN BE ACCOUNTED FOR.

SO IF I'M FOLLOWING YOU SO KIND OF SHIFTS THE BURDEN OF, OF THE VOLUME THAT THAT WILL BE PUT ON THE ROADS FROM COLIN HUNTER TO THE TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT'S OUTSIDE OF COLIN HUNTER.

WOULDN'T THAT BE THE EFFECT? I THINK THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE WAY IT WAS BEING LOOKED AT BEFORE, IS THAT ALL THEIR DEMAND WAS BEING DISTRIBUTED AMONG ALL THE OTHER ROADS AND SERVICE AREA, BUT THE, BUT THE ONES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING IN THIS WAY, IT'S DISTRIBUTED AMONG ALL ROADS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING AND THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING.

YEAH. I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR ENOUGH MEMORY OF WHETHER THE THEY'RE COST SUBSTANTIAL COST IN BUILDING THAT ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, IS THAT IS THAT IN ANY WAY SUBSIDIZED BY THE CITY? I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE PERMITTING THEM TO COLLECT SORT OF LIKE AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX TO FUND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.

BUT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEIR INTERNAL ROADS? THANKS, MAYOR, FOR LETTING ME KIND OF FOLLOW THIS.

SO THE THE INTERNAL ROADS ARE ENTIRELY FUNDED BY THE DEVELOPMENTS AND THEIR CONTRACT TAX IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE ROADS BUILT BY THE CITY, IN OTHER WORDS, THE OFF SITES, THE CONTRACT TAX WILL GO TOWARDS THOSE CITY BUILT ROADS.

IN ADDITION TO THEIR IMPACT FEES WILL GO TO THOSE ROADS AS WELL.

SO BUT THEY'LL, THEY THE CONSTRUCTION IN COLIN HUNTER WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME IMPACT FEES AS EVERYONE ELSE.

ALSO, IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE IMPACT FEES AND EVERYONE ELSE BEARS THE IMPACT OF THOSE.

RIGHT. OKAY. I'M KIND OF GETTING THERE.

YEAH. AND IT MAY IT MAY KEEP GOING.

MAIER. THANKS.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE INTENTION BECAUSE I THINK I WAS HERE AT THE TIME WHERE WE SAID, LET'S HAVE ANNUAL REVIEWS START AT 20%.

YOU KNOW I THINK THE INTENTION WAS TO EVENTUALLY TRUE UP BECAUSE THESE ARE REAL COSTS.

IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PENALIZE SOMEONE FOR ANYTHING.

IT'S. THE COSTS ARE DRIVEN, YOU KNOW, BY THIS ACTIVITY AND IT'S GOT TO GET PAID SOMEHOW.

SO IT'S EITHER SUBSIDIZED BY, YOU KNOW GENERAL FUND AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, OR NOT.

AND MY TAKEAWAY WAS THAT WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TWO LINES WOULD BE RISING BUT CONVERGE.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

FOR ROADS AND HOUSES ARE GOING, YOU KNOW, UP.

SIGNIFICANTLY FOR BOTH.

BUT THEN THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE RECOVER.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WAS INTENDED TO ALSO GO UP SO THAT EVENTUALLY WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOVERING THE REAL COSTS THAT ARE DRIVEN BY THAT ACTIVITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION, BUT MY IMPULSE IS TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF TRYING TO CLOSE THE GAP.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE REAL COSTS.

I WISH THEY WERE. I WISH THEY WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE PAID FOR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

SO MY, MY INCLINATION IS, IS SOMETHING LIKE 40 RESIDENTIAL, 20 NON RESIDENTIAL.

BUT LIKE I SAID I'LL LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION.

OKAY, DISTRICT ONE.

AND THEN THE DISTRICT FIVE REPRESENTATIVE OR PARDON ME, DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO REPRESENTATIVE.

I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY ASK YOU TO GO TO THAT THAT SLIDE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THINKING FOR ME.

I AM I REMEMBER THIS US HAVING THIS LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST VERY MINDFUL ABOUT OTHER FOLKS MONEY, INCLUDING OURS BECAUSE WE LIVE HERE AND WE PAY AS WELL.

THE 20% JUST SEEMS A BIT LOW TO ME.

I THINK THAT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH THE 50%.

RIGHT NOW, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A LOT.

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AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW EVERYTHING LANDS.

BUT THE BASIC PREMISE OF MY CONVERSATION HERE RIGHT NOW IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET AT SOME POINT. AND A LOT OF TIMES WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, AND THEN THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THE CANNED IS WAY MORE COSTLY WHEN WE'RE COMING BACK AROUND TO IT.

I LIKE FOR US TO BE SETTLED HERE, YOU KNOW, AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND IN PUTTING OURSELVES AT 50%, SEEMS KIND OF FAIRLY REASONABLE TO ME.

AND THAT'S AND THEN IF WE DON'T DO THE 50%, THEN I'M OKAY WITH THE 20%, BUT I PREFER THE 50%, AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS.

ALSO, I LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THE CITY IS IS NOT OUT FOR PROFIT.

WE'RE USING FUNDS BECAUSE WE NEED THE FUNDS AND WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THEY ARE. AND SO IT JUST TAKES A BIT MUCH BECAUSE OF THE FAST GROWTH.

THAT'S JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY HERE TO BE ON SPOT ON TIME WITH, WITH, WITH THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DISTRICT. DISTRICT TWO.

YEAH. I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD.

FROM THE OTHER COUNCILORS.

WE THROUGH A WIDE VARIETY OF OF PEOPLE IN POSITION THREE AND POSITION SIX, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT VIEWS, BUT THOUGH IT WAS CLEARLY HIGHER THAN 20%.

I'M KIND OF I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THAT I THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CONSENSUS AND THE GROWTH WAS ABSOLUTELY IN THERE.

BUT THE QUESTION I'LL ASK IS IF 80% IS BEING SUBSIDIZED.

THAT 80%, AS COUNCIL MELTZER SAID, IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE Y'ALL AREN'T INVENTING THESE PROJECTS THERE.

THEY'RE REAL PROJECTS.

SO IF WE'RE ONLY GETTING IMPACT FEES TO COVER 20% OF THEM, AND THE GENERAL FUND IS GOING TO COVER 80%, THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO SORT OF A BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MATH, WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE INCREASE IN COSTS TO THOSE RESIDENTS? THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE GENERAL FUND? YOU KNOW, IF, IF ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE HAVING TO COUGH UP, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE PAYING IT IN IMPACT FEES THAT ARE GETTING PASSED ALONG TO THEIR RENTS AND MORTGAGES OR WHETHER THEY'RE PAYING IN, IN TAXES.

THE MONEY OF THE PROJECT IS THE MONEY OF THE PROJECT.

SO IF THE REAL IMPACT ON THOSE RESIDENTS IN AN A THROUGH F.

OH, SORRY. A THROUGH E IS A VALUE.

THEN WHETHER WHETHER IT'S IMPACT FEES OR GENERAL FUND.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT THAT IS.

BECAUSE IF IT IF IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS GETTING 60, 70, 80% IMPACT FEE RATES AND THE END USER IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE THE SAME LOSS OF, OF REVENUE FROM THEIR POCKET BOOK, THEN WHY NOT? TRUE IT UP SOONER NOW RATHER THAN LATER.

I MEAN, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AS A COMPROMISE 50% AND THEN INCREASING TO TRUE.

AS COUNCILOR MELTZER SAID.

SO CAN DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR HOW MUCH IT'S IMPACTING THE END USER? WE AT THIS TIME WE DON'T, BUT A LOT.

I WANT TO MENTION THAT A LOT OF THE ROADWAYS ARE FUNDED THROUGH VARIOUS FUNDING MECHANISMS. SO NOT JUST GENERAL FUND, BUT THROUGH BOND PACKAGES, THROUGH OTHER OUTSIDE FUNDING SOURCES AND AGREEMENTS THROUGH GRANTS.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES TO HELP FUND THESE ROAD PROJECTS.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A AT THIS TIME, A NUMBER TO SAY THAT IT'S A DIRECTING COST, BUT BONDS ARE ULTIMATELY PAID THROUGH FROM THE GENERAL FUND ANYWAY.

RIGHT. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THE BOTTOM LINE.

IS THE TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR THIS.

SO WHETHER IT'S A BOND, WHETHER IT'S A ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, WHICH SOME ARE BUSINESSES OR SOME MAY BE RESIDENTS, BUT ANY OTHER AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS GOING TOWARDS ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE WILL COME THROUGH A BOND PROGRAM, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM MOST LIKELY BONDS, QUITE FRANKLY, WHICH IS STILL TAXPAYER MONEY.

APPRECIATE THAT, CITY MANAGER.

THAT'S SORT OF THE THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO BRING FORWARD IS TO THE END USER THAT'S GOING TO EXPERIENCE THE $4,000 IN $19,000 OR WHATEVER THEY'RE STILL GOING TO IF IT IF IT'S COSTS $19,000 A PERSON AND WE'RE DECIDING, OH, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT FROM THIS, THIS POOL, THIS POOL, THIS POOL, THIS POOL, IT'S STILL

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AND WE'RE NOT INVENTING THESE PROJECTS OUT OF THIN AIR.

AND TO DO JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT, RIGHT? CORRECT. THE ROAD PROJECTS HAVE TO GET BUILT.

SCOTT MCDONALD, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I JUST WANT TO KIND OF JUST BRING US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE OTHER FEES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO THAT IMPACT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND COMMERCIAL.

JUST KEEPING THAT IN MIND, WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION LAST, WE WERE AT THE 20% WE HAVE.

WITHIN THIS, AS JEFF HAS INDICATED, IT'S REALLY THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CYCLE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T COME BACK EACH AND EVERY YEAR AND EVALUATE THESE FEES.

IF WE TOOK AND WE INCREASE THESE BY 100%, IF WE TOOK 2000, WE INCREASED IT TO 4000.

WE'RE GETTING 2000 MORE THAN WE WERE.

WE'RE GETTING 2000 MORE THAN WHAT WE WOULDN'T BE HAD.

WE HAVE DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY.

AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK AND EVALUATE AS WE GO FORWARD.

WE HAD RECENTLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO OUR ELECTRIC FEES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WATER AND WASTEWATER IN THE COMING MONTHS.

AND ALL OF THESE HAVE A BOTTOM LINE.

SO IF WE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS FEE, JUST TO LOOK AT OUR COMPARISON FROM 2022, WHERE IN 2017 IT WAS 10,000 PER SINGLE FAMILY LOT 2022 IT IS 18,000.

AND IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THEN THAT 5,050% NUMBER, WE'RE WELL OVER $20,000 PER SINGLE FAMILY LOT, LET ALONE THE COST OF A LOT THAT IS OCCURRING TODAY.

FOR ANYONE BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 60 TO $70,000 PER SINGLE FAMILY LOT FOR A BUILDER TO DEVELOP WITHOUT THROWING IN THESE FEES.

AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE DEVELOPERS OVERHEAD AND PROFIT.

SO IF WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE BUILDING IN DENTON OR LEAPFROGGING DEVELOPMENT IN DENTON, WE JUST HAVE TO FACTOR ALL OF THESE THINGS IN MIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD.

SO I WANT TO PUT ALL OF THAT IN THERE.

WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF THE 20% BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL, AND THAT 20% WAS THE POTENTIAL OF COMING BACK EACH AND EVERY YEAR AND THEN EVALUATING WHETHER WE WANT TO GO TO 25 OR TO 30 OR TO 35, AND THEN ESCALATING THIS UP, SAME CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH THE DALLAS DALLAS BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.

SO WE HAD OTHERS IN THE ROOM AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK AS A REFRESHER OF WHERE WE WERE AND WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING. SO WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF THAT 20% BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL.

THAT 20% NUMBER IS A LITTLE LESS, BECAUSE WE'RE FACTORING IN OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT SHOULD BE FACTORED INTO THIS.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO STICK WITH THAT.

3640 THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

SORRY. WE'RE YOU HAD IT.

NEVER LET THEM TOUCH THEM. ALICE.

THANK YOU. YEAH, THE 36, 73.

SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT COULDN'T BE 4000.

SO YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE OF OF OF WHERE WE GET TO.

I JUST TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THESE OTHER FEES, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT INCREASING FEES.

AND WE ARE HIGH AS FAR AS REGIONALLY WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE MARKET.

AND I JUST WANT TO BALANCE THAT WITH JUST WHAT I HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE WILL HEAR FROM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AS WE GO FORWARD.

I APPRECIATE THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, THE THE FINAL END USER, HOME BUYER RENTER EXPERIENCES THE YEARLY LOSS THAT THEY EXPERIENCE. SO IF THEY IF THEY PAY IT IN FEES OUT OF THEIR MORTGAGE OR THEY PAY IT IN TAXES BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO ADJUST THE PENNY, THEN THEY'VE EXPERIENCED THE SAME, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, $25,000.

AND AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S FRANKLY, IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT FLUFFY MATH DEPENDING ON WHERE NOT FLUFFY MATH.

THE MATH IS ACCURATE BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING THE COST PER PROJECT.

BUT THE WHERE WE TAKE THE POOL FROM IS A IS THE ISSUE.

AND WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO AVOID TAKING IT OUT OF THE COMPETITIVE MARKET RATE PART OF IT, WHICH GOES INTO THE MORTGAGE AND PUT IT INTO THE THE FIXED PART OF IT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY COUNCIL'S RATE DETERMINATION IN SEPTEMBER.

AND I THINK THAT IF WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE VERY, VERY CLEAR.

AND THIS IS WHY IN ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, THIS IS SORT OF THE FOURTH OR FIFTH TIME I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BYRD AND COUNCILOR MELTZER.

WELL, AND I THINK HIS NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN MINE, BUT COUNCIL BYRD AND I ARE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHEW THESE THINGS UP, WE NEED TO IF IF WE THINK THAT THE GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH, THEN YOU NEED TO BE AT 60 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REEVALUATING 60 UP TO 100.

SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO START FROM THERE.

I, I MEAN I YOU KNOW, I THINK I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH OPTION YOU HAVE THE OPTION SLIDES, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

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60 I'M STARTING AT 60 BECAUSE I REMEMBER PRIOR DISCUSSIONS AS I THOUGHT WE COULD DO 80 AND THEN SERIES IS A FIVES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO AVOID SOME STICKER SHOCK.

BUT YOU KNOW, IF, IF STAFF WANT TO START WITH 60, AS LONG AS WE'RE GOING TO TRUE UP TO TOWARDS 100 AND RECOGNIZE THAT SUBSIDIES ARE SUBSIDIES AND THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE PUT A LINE IN AND THIS IS THE THIS IS THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION SUBSIDY THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT FOR OUR NEW GROWTH.

COOL. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE BOLD AND UP FRONT AND TO THE TAXPAYER KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUBSIDIZING.

SO MY MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR 60.

JUST REAL QUICK.

WE DON'T KNOW YET EXACTLY.

BUT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE THAT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT, OR AT LEAST GO UP PART OF THE.

THE IMPORTANT FOCUS HERE IS THAT WE MAKE SURE WE BRING THIS BACK EVERY YEAR FOR YOUR REVIEW AND THE DATA ASSOCIATED WITH IT, TO SHOW WHY IT SHOULD GO UP AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING IT WOULD NEXT YEAR, BUT THE IMPORTANT PART HERE IS THAT WE DON'T GO TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS WITHOUT BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO YOU, FOR YOU TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHERE YOU WANT THIS TO BE.

SO WHEREVER YOU DECIDE TO LAND, I WANT YOU JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A HOLISTIC POINT OF VIEW, AND THAT THERE WILL BE OTHER FEES ASSOCIATED.

AND FOR A COUNCIL THAT IS LOOKING AT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, WE'VE GOT TO BALANCE THAT.

I'D BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT.

SO WE DON'T SEND OURSELVES OUT OF A MARKET OF HOUSING, MEANING NOT NOT NECESSARILY APARTMENTS, BUT HOUSING FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE.

BUT AND WE ARE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, THERE'S NO DOUBT HERE.

AND WE DO NEED TO GO UP.

BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE.

NOW, OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU EVERY YEAR AND SHOW YOU WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND WHERE WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS, YEARS AND YEARS FOR US TO GET WHERE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE NOT AT 100%, BUT EVEN THE CITIES THAT WERE COMPARABLE ARE NOT AT 100%.

AND IT'S JUST A DECISION YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ADD IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING UP.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE I CAN'T BRING IN HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, AND THAT IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO WANT TO BUILD.

OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE.

DISTRICT SIX.

THANK YOU. I THINK ALL OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND ARE VERY TRUE.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IS THAT I'M GOING TO BE FLEXIBLE SO THAT WE HAVE SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST MOVE FORWARD ON COLLECTING THESE FEES.

HOWEVER MY CONCERN IS THAT THE WARNING SIGNALS WE'RE GETTING AS FAR AS THE WATER IMPACT FEES, THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO BE COMING UP ARE GOING TO BE HIGH.

WE'RE BEING TOLD THEY'RE GOING TO BE HIGH.

WHAT I WOULD PERSONALLY FEEL IS THE RESPONSIBLE WAY TO APPROACH THIS IS TO START AT, YOU KNOW, 20 OR SOMETHING AROUND THERE. HOWEVER, KEEP GOING UP.

AND LIKE THE CITY MANAGER SAID, AS FAR AS YEARLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO BRING THIS UP, WHAT I DON'T WANT IS THE SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM AND THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED SIGNED CONTRACTS, RECEIVED FUNDING.

FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, THIS WOULD TAKE EFFECT IN MONTHS IN LESS THAN A YEAR.

AND SO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT THEIR BIGGEST INVESTMENT FORWARD FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR HOMES. AND WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THIS TO CAUSE ANYONE TO GO INTO BANKRUPTCY TO GO INTO DEFAULT, ETC..

SO I THINK MORE LEAD TIME SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY.

WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING AND THE NEED WE ALL RECOGNIZE WE HAVE FOR DENTON HOUSING, I THINK SOME KIND OF INCREMENTAL RISE IS IS APPROPRIATE, IS RATIONAL, AND I THINK CAN GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO GO FROM 0 TO 100 THIS YEAR.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO A LOT OF AREAS.

NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS.

YEAH. AND THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

THANK YOU. SCOTT, CAN YOU OR IF IT'S BRANT, BRETT OR KELLY, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S REMIND ME AND FORGIVE ME FOR NOT KNOWING IT.

SO IT'S NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

MODIFYING THE EXISTING.

WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? FEES APPLIED TO YOU.

YEAH. YEAH.

SO THE IMPACT FEES APPLY TO ROADS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE MOBILITY PLAN AND ON THE STUDY THAT ARE EITHER NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ROADS THAT ARE EXISTING, ROADS THAT ARE UNDERSIZED FOR THE NEW GROWTH.

SO IT'S EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING ROAD NETWORK.

ONLY ROADS ARE IDENTIFIED THAT NEED TO BE EXPANDED, AND NEW ROADS THAT NEED TO BE THAT NEED TO BE BUILT AS THE CITY GROWS AND EXPANDS.

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AND YOU LOOK AT A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

IF THAT ROAD IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY ON EITHER SIDE SAYS, HEY, IT NEEDS MORE EXPANSION, YOU'RE ADDING 30 HOMES.

WE'RE THEN GOING TO CHARGE THAT NONPROFIT WHO IS NOW PAYING ROUND NUMBERS, 1.2 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO SAY THAT'S ON THEIR INTERNAL STREETS, RIGHT.

BUT THEN IN ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO KICK THAT UP IN THEORY ANOTHER.

$11,000 IS THAT IF THAT ROAD, IF DUNCAN ROAD WAS IDENTIFIED AS ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED DUE TO CAPACITY.

BROWN NUMBERS, VARYING DEGREES OF PERCENTAGES THAT THAT PER LOT COST GOES THERE.

BUT IF I'M FOLLOWING YOU.

DOES THAT IMMEDIATELY TRIGGER ROADWORK? OKAY. GO AHEAD. WELL TWO FOLD.

SO AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE ROADS THAT ARE PLANNED TO BE DONE.

OR THERE MAY BE SOME PLANNED EXPANSIONS.

THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE IS GOING TO IMPACT EVERY SINGLE NEW SINGLE FAMILY LOT THAT WILL OCCUR WHETHER.

BUT BUT STOP RIGHT THERE OR NOT.

YES. BINGO.

WHETHER OR NOT HABITAT HAS OR CREATES ANYTHING IN THEIR IMMEDIATE AREA, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PAY THIS FEE.

SO WHERE IT IS THAT AND THAT'S WHERE I REFERENCE.

IF WE DOUBLE THE FEES TODAY, IF WE GO FROM 2000 TO 4000, WE'RE GETTING WE'RE GETTING MORE MONEY.

IS IT ENOUGH? NO.

IS IT 100%.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BUT BUT AGAIN, BEAR IN MIND THAT THAT PERSON IS ALSO GOING TO SEE LIKELY DOUBLE THEIR FEES IN WASTEWATER.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE WASTEWATER LINE AT 4700, IF THAT'S GOING TO GO TO $9,500 AND YOU START ADDING ALL OF THESE NUMBERS UP, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

SO AGAIN, JUST STRESSING THE FACT THAT WE CAN GET THERE INCREMENTALLY.

WE NEED TO MOVE SLOWLY.

WE CAN'T WE CAN'T JUST DIVE IN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO JUMP OUR FEES, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE 30,000, $35,000 ON TOP OF A LOT COST FOR IMPACT FEES.

AND THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

IF WE LOOK AT WHAT 50% WILL BRING, WE WILL BE OVER 30,000 IN IMPACT FEES ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT COME JANUARY 1ST.

RIGHT. BUT THEN ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M TRACKING WITH YOU ONE, THAT FEE IS TRIGGERED IMMEDIATELY FOR THAT.

THOSE DEVELOPERS, THAT SORT OF THING.

WE DON'T DO THE WORK BECAUSE THAT'S A SEGMENT.

WHAT'S THE AVERAGE STREET LENGTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON? I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S ONE SEGMENT OF IT TO REDO A WHOLE ROAD THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY, EVEN AT 100% FOR ONE PERSON, ONE LOT THAT'S UNDEVELOPED, THAT TRIGGERS THESE FEES.

AND SO WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IS POTENTIALLY A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY PAYING SOME MONSTER FEE THAT THEN IS SET IN ESCROW OR WHATEVER WE PUT IT, BECAUSE EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH OF THEM IS NOT BEING DEVELOPED AND IS NOT PAYING IN TO AT THE SAME RATE AND DOESN'T.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRICK. WE CAN'T FIX THE WHOLE ROAD BASED ON ONE DEVELOPMENT PAYING IN THIS EXTRA FEE.

SO SO THE EQUITY OF IT IS IT'S FRONT LOADED TO PUNISH THE HOME BUILDER AND THEN BACK LOADED TO AT SOME POINT YOU'LL GET A BETTER STREET.

BUT THAT REQUIRES OTHER PEOPLE TO PAY IN.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT REDEVELOPING OR NOT COMING BACK TO SEE US FOR ANY REASON, SO THAT THAT'S THE HARD PART.

IT'S NOT HARD FOR ME.

I'M AT I'M AT 20% LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE WE MESSAGE TO PEOPLE.

WE HAD LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAD ALL THE VESTED INTEREST PARTIES IN THE ROOM.

WE COMMUNICATED WE WERE GOING TO 20%.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE THEN PULLING THE FOOTBALL JUST BEFORE WE KICK IT.

BECAUSE THAT JUST THAT'S JUST NOT A GOOD PARTNERSHIP APPROACH TO THINGS.

THEY WERE IN THE ROOM. WE HAD THE CONVERSATION.

I WANT TO HONOR THAT CONVERSATION, AND I DON'T THERE'S THERE'S I DON'T WANT TO BE PUNITIVE TO PEOPLE TRYING TO BUILD HOMES IN THE CITY OF DENTON BECAUSE THE ROAD MAY OR MAY NOT GET REACHED.

AND. MY MATH, NOT YOURS.

BUT YOU CAN LOOK IT UP. I MEAN, WHEN I DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH.

MEDIAN HOME PRICE IN FLOWER MOUND, BECAUSE THEY'RE COLLECTING 100% IS $610,000 PER HOME.

THAT'S THE MEDIAN.

SO IF THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO, THEN WE'LL GET THERE.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S DENTON I THINK THAT'S FLOWER MOUND.

AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE APPROACH TO TO HOW THEY SERVE THEIR CITY FOR US.

AND THEN AND I'LL JUST END WITH THIS.

YEAH. THE UTILITY BILL WENT UP 20 BUCKS AND AND A LOT.

THAT WAS A LOT OF THAT'S A LOT.

THEN OTHER FEES ARE GOING TO COME ON BOARD.

AND IT'S JUST IT'S TOO MUCH AT ONCE.

YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T IF YOU WANT TO GET TO 100% LET'S LET'S WORK ON IT.

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BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT'S FRONT LOADED.

THAT'S THE KICKER FOR ME.

THEY'RE GOING TO PAY IMMEDIATELY AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET A NEW ROAD.

IT'S IT'S AMORTIZED OVER 30 YEARS.

YEAH. RIGHT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

SO YEAH, I'M AT 20% LIKE WE COMMITTED.

ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR? I'M VERY I'M LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED THAT THAT DESPITE THIS TREMENDOUS GROWTH WE'RE EXPERIENCING, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SADDLE NEW HOME BUYERS WITH SUCH A BURDEN THAT THEY THAT THEY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THIS, IT'S THE WASTEWATER.

IT'S THE WATER IMPACT FEE.

I THINK I THINK OUR ORIGINAL DECISION WAS A GOOD ONE, 20% AND THEN ESCALATE IN, IN SOME SORT OF A STRUCTURED MANNER, PERHAPS FIVE PER, AFTER FIVE YEARS OR AFTER TEN YEARS.

20%. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE.

TO PICK UP RIGHT THERE WHERE COUNCILMEMBER HARLAN LEFT OFF.

I'M NOT EVEN READY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT ESCALATION YET.

THIS COUNCIL SET A PROCESS BY WHICH WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS.

THANKS TO THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR CITY MANAGER, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS EVERY YEAR.

SO I, TOO AM GOING TO COME IN AT 20%.

I APPRECIATE HER PUTTING IN THE DISCOURSE THE THE WATER IMPACT FEES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY TOUGH CONVERSATION FOR US WHEN IT COMES.

DENTON IS 151,000 PEOPLE.

AND BASED OFF OF THE JOINT MEETING WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, WE ARE PROJECTING TO BE 303, SO WE'RE GOING TO MORE THAN DOUBLE IN 25 YEARS.

THE PEOPLE ARE COMING WHETHER WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO LIVE OR NOT.

AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO IS THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE MORE INSTABILITY IN THE MARKET FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME.

I KNOW THAT MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE PROBABLY ALL OWN HOMES.

AS THE ONE RENTER ON THE COUNCIL.

TAKE IT FROM ME, I KNOCKED ON A LOT OF DOORS IN A CAMPAIGN THAT THREE OF US JUST RAN, AND THE FOLKS IN MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS WANT MORE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOUSE.

WE NEED MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, TOWN HOMES.

YESTERDAY. I DON'T WANT TO DRASTICALLY AFFECT THE MARKET IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE BUILDERS TO NOT BUILD, BECAUSE WE NEED HOUSES.

LET ME JUST THINK ABOUT ME.

I WANT A HOUSE.

I'M ABSOLUTELY GOING TO COME IN AT 20%.

WE HIRED A CONSULTANT A FEW YEARS AGO, AND WE KNOW THAT THAT CONSULTANT TALKED ABOUT HOW WE ARE TO MARKET DENTON.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER MELTZER SAYS THIS ALL THE TIME CONNECTED, CREATIVE, SUSTAINABLE AND COMPETITIVE.

JUMPING DRASTICALLY ABOVE 20% KNOCKS OUT OUR ABILITY TO STAY COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER CITIES.

IT'S. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A TENABLE SITUATION.

IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING TO BE A PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL, AND WE SAID IT WAS IN PREVIOUS YEARS, I EXPECT IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A HIGH PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL COMING UP IN OUR RETREAT NEXT MONTH, THAT WE MUST ACTUALLY TREAT IT LIKE IT IS A PRIORITY.

20%. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE.

YEAH, A COUPLE OF POINTS.

ONE IS I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GRANTS FOR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD OFFSET IMPACT FEES.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE AFFORDABILITY, THE.

THE NOT JUST GENERAL AFFORDABILITY, BUT THE SORT OF QUALIFIED AFFORDABILITY POINT I THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

I THINK WE SHOULD START THAT CONVERSATION AT THE RETREAT.

THE ANOTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT I THINK WE'RE THIS YOU KNOW, WHAT MIGHT BE A HELPFUL CONCEPT IS WHAT PARKS DOES.

YOU'RE REALLY THE QUESTION IS.

IT'S QUITE SURREAL.

THE QUESTION ISN'T WHETHER THEY SHOULD EXIST OR NOT.

IF YOU'RE LIKE, HAVE SYMPATHY FOR ONE PARTY, YOU'RE PUSHING IT ON ANOTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE SYMPATHY FOR THE TAXPAYER? SO I THINK REALLY THE QUESTION IS TO WHAT DEGREE IS THIS A PRIVATE GOOD, TO WHAT DEGREE IS IT A SHARED GOOD.

AND THAT SHOULD GUIDE US IN WHAT PERCENT WE CHOOSE.

AND THAT'S THE KIND OF STRUCTURAL POINT I'M GOING TO MAKE.

ONE MORE. WHY DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS CHART THAT SHOWS ROADWAY WATER IMPACT, WASTEWATER AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHY DO WE TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME? ARE WE COMING UP AGAINST A DEADLINE OR WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE SINCE THAT'S THE CHART, WE'RE ACTUALLY ULTIMATELY MANAGING TO DO IT TOGETHER AND KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT ON ALL THESE THINGS.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN REAL NUMBERS AND THEN CERTAIN JUST FEAR NUMBERS?

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BUT EVERY FIVE YEARS WE NEED TO DO A STUDY.

AND IN PARTICULAR FOR THIS STUDY, THE LAST TIME I WAS DONE IS IN 2016.

AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY TWO YEARS BEHIND ON ADOPTING THE UPDATED STUDY.

RIGHT. BUT WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE COMING IN THE SAME TIME FRAME.

RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING PREVENTING US FROM LOOKING AT IT ALL TOGETHER? I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING PREVENTING US.

CORRECT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CASSIE.

I THINK IT'S I MEAN, JUST TO BE REAL FRANK WITH YOU, AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR FINGERS AND OUR ARMS AROUND THIS, THIS BEHEMOTH, MASSIVE THING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE IN 2016.

I'M EMBARRASSED TO EVEN SAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE A LOT EARLIER BEFORE.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T BRING THOSE IMPACT FEES TOGETHER.

NO. AND PARKS DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A SLOW GO TRYING TO GET THAT RAISED.

AND SAME THING WITH PARK DEDICATION.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN'T BRING IMPACT FEES AND MAYBE BUILDING PERMITS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

DEVELOPMENT FEES THAT COULDN'T BE ROLLED INTO A PRESENTATION OF HERE'S WHERE THEY CURRENTLY HERE'S WHERE THE MARKET IS.

THAT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF STAFF CAPACITY.

BECAUSE ALL OF THESE IMPACT FEE STUDIES HAVE TO BE IF THEY'RE UPDATED ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S A LOT OF OUR STAFF TIME TO MANAGE THE, THE THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

WEREN'T WE JUST HEARING THESE ARE COMING TO US.

THEY ARE COMING. WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE SCHEDULED TO BE DISCUSSED.

THE INITIAL DISCUSSION IN JULY.

SO WE CAN TRY TO MOVE THAT UP TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE JUST LINING THIS UP WITH THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I'M SORRY. I MEAN, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT BACK HOLD ON, IF Y'ALL ARE BOTH TALKING, NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU.

YEAH. SO YOU GOT A LITTLE FINISHED.

I, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SPEAK OVER YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD.

NO, I APOLOGIZE WE CAN TRY TO ALIGN THEM NEXT YEAR WHEN WE BRING THEM BACK.

IT WE CAN MOVE WATER WASTEWATER UP THIS YEAR, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL WE'RE ALREADY TWO YEARS BEHIND AN UPDATE FOR THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT NOW.

IT WOULD HAVE COME OUTSIDE OF THAT WATER WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE UPDATE, JUST AS THEY WERE SCHEDULED BASED ON WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED.

SO I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING TO ADD TO WHAT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DO THE THE SOLUTION, THE THE ONLY SOLUTION TO LINING THEM UP IS NOT, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL YOU.

TELL ME OTHERWISE IF I'M WRONG, IT'S NOT THAT SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO BE MOVED UP.

I'M SAYING, GOOD. WE HAD THIS INTRODUCTION TO THIS PIECE, AND LET'S LOOK AT IT TOGETHER WHEN WE'RE READY TO LOOK AT THE OTHER PIECES, WHICH IS ONLY, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AND A HALF OFF.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL FACING THE IMPLICATIONS FOR TOTAL COST PER NEW HOME LOT.

SO WHY CAN'T WE LOOK AT TOTAL COST PER NEW HOME LOT WITH, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ONE DECISION, THEN A MONTH AND A HALF LATER WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES IT THAT WAY? NO, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TRY TO WHEN WE BRING IT FORWARD.

I MEAN, THIS WAS OUR ATTEMPT TO SHOW YOU EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME, BUT WE CAN ATTEMPT TO DO A BETTER JOB IN THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, JUST IF THEY'RE ABOUT TO CHANGE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

WELL, I THINK THE BIG ISSUE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO DO A JOB OF MAKING SURE, BECAUSE IMPACT FEES ARE CHANGING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ACROSS THE NORTH TEXAS AREA WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB TO GET YOU INFORMATION ON A REGULAR BASIS, YEARLY BASIS OF WHAT OUR COMPARABLES ARE DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DO A STUDY AND PAY FOR A CONSULTANT ALL THE WAY, BUT WE CAN DO SOME KIND OF COMPARISON ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT WATER IMPACT FEES, WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES, AND OUR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES SO THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.

WE ARE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE 2016 PARTICULARLY.

AND SO WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF THIS SO YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

AND WE CAN START DOING THAT IN THESE CHUNKS.

OKAY. I LIKE THE INFORMED PART.

THE DECISION PART SHOULD HAVE ALL THE PIECES.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK, GET OUT OF THE WAY AND THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU TOO.

BUT, BUT. JUST SO I CAN STAY TRACK THE CONVERSATION.

DID DID I JUST HEAR AND CORRECT ME WRONG? I DON'T KNOW THAT I HEARD THAT WHERE WE WOULD CHANGE ALL THE FEES AT ONCE IS THAT OR CONSIDER CHANGING THE FEES ALL AT ONCE.

IS THAT WHAT I HEARD OR.

NO, NO, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

OKAY, SO THE INFORMATION.

YEAH, BUT THE INFORMATION IS WHY WOULD YOU BRING BACK THE INFORMATION WITHOUT CONSIDERING WHETHER, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU BRING UP AN UPDATE? CERTAINLY. BUT THEN AT SOME POINT YOU'D SAY WE NEED TO UPDATE THESE NUMBERS, RIGHT? YEAH. EVENTUALLY. YES.

AND THOSE WOULD ALL BE SYNCED UP.

I'M NOT SAYING THEY'D BE SYNCED UP.

WE'D BRING BACK THE INFORMATION FOR YOU TO BE INFORMED EVERY YEAR.

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RIGHT. BUT IF YOU DID RECOMMEND AN INCREASE, IT WOULD BE EVERYTHING.

RIGHT? BECAUSE IF YOU SYNCED IT UP AND YOU RECOMMEND AN INCREASE, THEN ALL THOSE INCREASES WOULD HIT IT ONCE.

GOOD. NO, I'M NOT FOR THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS TRACKING ALONG DISTRICT DISTRICT ONE, AND THEN I'M SORRY.

AND THEN DISTRICT FIVE.

I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE 20%, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AND MY REASONING FOR THE 50%.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT THAT $25,374, AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT $30,000 THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE, YOU KNOW, COULD IMPACT A NEW HOME.

AND OF COURSE, IN MY MIND, GOING BACK OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD, USUALLY THE MORTGAGE IS A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE, AND JUST AT $30,000, YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT $1,000 A YEAR THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE THE BOTTOM LINE FOR A PERSON THAT'S GETTING A HOME.

AND THEN YOU'RE DIVIDING THAT BY 12.

THAT'S REALLY TECHNICALLY A NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

IT LOOKS VERY BIG.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 25, $30,000 ONTO A HOUSE.

BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD OF PAYING OFF THIS HOUSE, AND WE'RE DIVIDING THAT BY THE NUMBER OF MONTHS THAT YOU'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HOUSE PER YEAR, WHICH IS 12 MONTHS, THAT'S NOT A LOT.

LOOK AT THAT $9.93 TO $12.69 YOU KNOW, PER SQUARE FOOT, IT SEEMS BIG, BUT REALLY I'M LOOKING AT A MORE A REASONABLE AMOUNT FOR ME.

I DON'T HAVE A NEW HOUSE. I'M NOT GOING TO BUY A NEW HOUSE, YOU KNOW.

NOT IF I DON'T HAVE TO.

I THINK THAT THAT'S.

I THINK 50% IS REASONABLE.

I'M GOING TO STAY WITH THAT.

BUT I CAN ALSO CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND OUR MINDSET THAT WE ALL WANT TO BE ON THE CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO BE REMINDED THAT PEOPLE EVERYTHING'S AFFORDABLE.

IF WE PUT SOME HOUSES OUT HERE FOR 4 OR $500,000, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD 4 OR 500, $600,000 HOUSE.

AND IF THIS IS WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE, THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE HERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

THEY'RE GOING TO ABSORB ALL OF THAT.

MY MY CONCERN IS THE FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

AND OF COURSE, THAT'S WHERE THAT WATER IMPACT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO AN UPGRADE, UPDATE THE WASTEWATER, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL.

WE CAN DO THAT $20 EXTRA A MONTH.

I STOPPED GETTING MY NAILS DONE.

GUESS WHAT? I CAN GROW MY OWN NAILS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND SO YOU JUST MAKING THOSE LITTLE ADJUSTMENTS LIKE THAT LIFESTYLE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO.

I, I CAN CLEARLY AGREE WITH 50%.

BUT IF WE DO 20%, YOU KNOW THAT'S A FEEL GOOD NUMBER.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS.

ONE THING THAT I WANT TO ADD IS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UPDATE.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID, INCLUDING CITY MANAGER, WE CAN DO THIS YEARLY.

PERHAPS I'M I'M GOING TO BE ON THE DOWNSIDE OF THINGS, BUT I ACTUALLY DON'T WANT TO UPDATE THIS YEARLY.

I THINK IT'S A TREMENDOUS LIFT ON STAFF TO BRING THIS BACK EVERY YEAR.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, AGAIN, STABILITY IN THE HOUSING MARKET IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE WHO WANT TO BUILD HERE.

WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS CAUSE THEM TO TAKE THEIR PROJECTS ELSEWHERE, SO THAT THEN THAT CONSTRAINS THE MARKET FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO WANT TO MOVE UP AND OWNERS WITH OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

SO IF YOU WANT MY MAYOR PUT ME DOWN FOR WANTING TO EVALUATE THIS EVERY OTHER YEAR AND NOT EVERY YEAR, STILL STAND AT 20%.

OKAY. THANKS. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO.

THANK YOU. IF WE'RE GATHERING INFORMATION, THEN.

THEN I'D LIKE THAT PIECE OF THAT INFORMATION.

THAT'S NOT ON THIS.

THAT IS THE PIECE THAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT.

WHAT IS I MEAN, IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO ASSESS.

AND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ASSESS IT RIGHT THIS MOMENT, BUT WHAT IF AT AT THESE VARIOUS SUBSIDY LEVELS, WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE TAXPAYER YOU KNOW, INCREASE OR DECREASE AT THESE VARIOUS SUBSIDY LEVELS EXPECTED AND YOU USE WHATEVER REASONABLE TAX RATE MAKES SENSE TO MAKE IT BECAUSE IT WON'T SHIFT THAT MUCH FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

SO BUT THAT THAT IS A LINE ITEM THAT'S MISSING HERE.

AND EVERY YEAR WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.

OH, THIS IS GOING TO BE $124 A HOUSE OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS GOING TO BE.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THERE AS WELL AND SEE HOW THESE DIFFERENT NUMBERS, BECAUSE 100% IS 100%, WHETHER I'M DOING 80 OVER 20 OR 50 OVER 50, YOU KNOW, 100% IS STILL 100%.

AND LET'S LET'S SEE WHERE ALL THE LINE ITEMS ARE WHEN WE DO THESE BUDGET ASSESSMENTS, WHETHER WE UPDATE IT OR NOT, EVERY YEAR IT'LL AT LEAST LET US HAVE THE RIGHT

[01:25:04]

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WERE YOU ABLE TO TRACK ALONG.

DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? WE GOT THREE OF THEM AT 21 AT 41 AT 50 AND ONE AT 60.

NO. SO FOR 20 FOR 20, YOU HAVE PRIMARILY NOT EVERYONE TALKED ABOUT YEARLY.

MOST TALKED ABOUT YEARLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LANDED.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTIN, GIVEN A RECOMMENDATION, SHE'LL GO WITH THE MAJORITY.

OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE I WAS MISSING.

OKAY, WELL, GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHESTER IN FAVOR OF A 20% AND A YEARLY REVIEW.

YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT.

AND THEN THE INFORMATION.

YOU MEAN THE QUESTIONS NOTED.

JUST BRING THOSE BACK. OR STAFF REPORT FRIDAY OR SOMETHING.

BUT BUT I THINK IT IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF SINKING MAYBE, MAYBE SEND OUT, YOU KNOW, QUARTERLY UPDATES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST KIND OF WHAT'S PENDING ALL THINGS AROUND FEES.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. MAYBE THERE'S KIND OF A SEGMENT ON THAT THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET GET IN FRONT OF.

AND MAYBE THAT HELPS AS AS WE'RE TRUE AND EVERYTHING UP.

SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

DO WE HAVE ANY CLOTHES? OKAY. VERY GOOD.

SO THAT CONCLUDES ITEM B.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION.

THEN WE WILL TAKE A BREAK UNTIL 630 WHEN WE HAVE OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WILL START AND DINNER WILL BE HERE AT 4:45.

OKAY. ABOUT 430, 4:45.

SO WE'LL BE ON BREAK TILL THEN.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 21ST, 2024 AND IT IS 6:31 P.M..

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG.

PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION.

[2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]

YOU CAN MEET ME DOWN AT THE PODIUM AND WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT PROCLAMATION.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO SING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO HEY, MIKE, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD, GOOD.

OKAY. YOU'RE SO YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING, AND THEN WE'LL PASS THE MIC, LET EVERYBODY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

HERE WE GO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. TO TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE YOU. SINCE I KNOW EVERYONE, THIS IS I HAVE NOT BEEN BACK HERE SINCE 2014, BUT.

YEAH. LOOKS GOOD.

YES, BUT WE ARE REPRESENTING THEATER DENTON.

OKAY. AND WE ARE VERY, VERY HONORED TO HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE DAEGU INTERNATIONAL MUSIC THEATER TO REPRESENT SINGING IN THE RAIN AS THEIR INTERNATIONAL MUSIC FESTIVAL IN KOREA.

YES. AND OUR WONDERFUL, TALENTED GROUP IS GOING TO PERFORM ON THE MAIN STAGE DURING THE FESTIVAL AT THE.

ACTUALLY, IT'S IN THE OPERA HOUSE.

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AND THEY INVITED US AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SPONSOR THE TRIP.

AND THE WAY THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR 42, 42 MEMBERS OF OUR TROUPE AND THE ORCHESTRA, AND THEY'RE PAYING A LOT OF OUR THE WAY FOR US TO GET THERE AND OF OUR THE COSTUMES, ALL KINDS OF THINGS. YES.

YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING AT THE END OF JUNE AND JULY TO PERFORM.

AND IT'S REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF ADVERTISING ALSO, YOU KNOW, SO THEY ARE REALLY SPLASHING AND IT IS IT IS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL THING. SO I AM CAMP, BY THE WAY.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE THEATER THREE GOVERNING BOARD, AND I'VE BEEN HONORED TO BE THE LIAISON.

SO I'LL BE REPRESENTING NOT ONLY OUR BOARD, BUT ALSO THE CITY OF DENTON, DENTON COUNTY IN THIS AREA.

SO YOU MAY BE IN TROUBLE.

YEAH. YES.

AND THIS IS MIKE BARROW.

HE'S OUR. HE'S OUR CHIEF.

HE'S OUR LEADER.

YEAH, HE'S A DIRECTOR OF THEATER THREE.

SO. MIKE. PETER DENTON.

YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, THIS IS SUCH A THRILL.

AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR FOR DOING THIS.

AND CITY COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

FLASHBACK. 17 YEARS AGO WHEN WHEN? DENTON COMMUNITY THEATER AT THE TIME WAS ASKED TO COME TO THE THEATER FESTIVAL IN FRANKFURT, GERMANY.

SO HERE WE ARE, 17 YEARS LATER, WE'RE DOING THE SAME KIND OF THING.

AND I THINK IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT MY, MY DAUGHTER'S THEORY IS RIGHT, THAT DENTON IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.

SO SO WE'RE VERY PROUD TO BE GOING AND WE'RE, WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD TO BE HERE TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL JUST SWING IT AROUND HERE.

SURE. I'M GOING TO LET EVERYBODY.

SO JUST GIVE US WHATEVER.

GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO SHARE.

PASS IT OUT. YEAH.

SO MY NAME IS KIM SANTANA, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND TO GO TO KOREA.

MY NAME IS PATRICIA DOS SANTOS.

I AM PLAYING THE CLOWN IN THE GAME.

MY NAME IS BRYSON BEAVERS.

I'M PLAYING COSMO BROWN AND THROUGH A FOOT SURGERY AND A SWOLLEN ANKLE.

I'M SO HAPPY TO BE GOING TO SOUTH KOREA.

MY NAME IS ROBBIE MITTS.

I'LL BE PLAYING ROD, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SUCH AN HONOR TO BE IN SOUTH KOREA PERFORMING FOR THEATER.

DENTON MY NAME IS RAY NIX.

I'M THE YOUNGEST PERSON IN THE CAST.

SO THIS IS REALLY COOL BECAUSE, LIKE, I'VE NEVER BEEN OUT OF COUNTRY.

SO MY NAME IS PIPER MENDEZ.

I'M PLAYING KATHY SELDEN.

YEAH, I'M REALLY EXCITED.

I'M GEORGE DICENZO, I'M NOT IN THE SHOW, BUT I'M A PROUD SUPPORTER OF THEATER DENTON.

MY NAME IS CHRISTIE WOOD.

I'M IN THE ORCHESTRA.

I AM DRESSED IN MY COSTUME.

SO I'M REALLY JAZZED THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING OUR WAY, INCLUDING THE ORCHESTRA.

SO. YAY! YEAH. YEAH.

I'M MARRIED. DURBAN.

ONE OF MY ROLES IS MISS DINSMORE, LINA'S COACH.

VOCAL COACH. WHERE'S LINA? THERE SHE IS. AND SINGING AND DANCING IN THE SHOW.

I'M BECKY MORRISON.

SO EXCITED TO DO THIS.

I'M IN THE ENSEMBLE.

I'M MAGGIE WILDER-SMITH, AND I HAD NEVER BEEN ON A PLANE, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE FUN.

I'M KYLENE MILTON YAMBAO.

I'M PLAYING LINA LAMONT AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I'M JOSEPH BAKER, I'M PLAYING THE MALE DICTION COACH, AND I'M ALSO EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.

HI, I'M EILEEN STARK.

I'M ONE OF THE DIRECTORS, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO DROP DEAD.

HI, I'M EMILY BOYD, AND I'M PLAYING ZELDA ZANDERS, LENA'S BEST FRIEND.

AND I FEEL SO BLESSED TO BE WITH THIS CAST AND CREW AND BE HONORED TO GO TO SOUTH KOREA.

I'M PETE KELLY, JUST LIKE THE BLUES.

I'M WITH THE OTHER DIRECTOR OF SINGING IN THE RAIN, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR INVITING US HERE TONIGHT.

AND WE'RE MORE THAN EXCITED ABOUT GOING.

WE'RE DOING FOUR SHOWS, AND FOR THE FINALE, THEY'VE ASKED US TO COME AND DO AN EXCERPT FROM THE SHOW FOR THE FINALE OF THE WHOLE FESTIVAL.

AND THEN THERE'S AN AWARD SHOW, SO WE ALL GET TO WALK THE RED CARPET.

YEAH. EXCELLENT.

EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT.

OKAY. JUNK MAKEUP.

SO. OKAY, SO I HAVE A PROJECT, AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THE NAME, BUT BUT I WENT ON YOUTUBE TO TO DO SOME RESEARCH, AND I FINALLY FOUND A NEWS

[01:35:05]

BUT THEN YOU SAID IT TO CONFIRM.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD AND IT LOOKS LIKE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY.

AMAZING VIDEO. I WAS WATCHING THE, THE, THE RED CARPET AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS IN THE BUILDING AND SOME BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

SO REALLY EXCITING.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WHAT THE EXPERIENCES AND STORIES Y'ALL BRING BACK.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE FOR YOUR FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I WAS IN LIKE ONE SCENE OF HALF A REAL LONG PLAY AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE, SO I COULDN'T IMAGINE.

YEAH, I COULDN'T IMAGINE DOING THE WHOLE IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK.

YEAH. TRULY THE HEART AND SOUL.

YEAH. AND THEY ARE AMAZING.

YES. NO DOUBT THEY COULD SING A FEW BARS.

YEAH. HEY, LET'S LET'S DO IT.

YEAH, YEAH. DO THEY, DO THEY KNOW TEXAS? OUR TEXAS? NO, NO, NO.

READ THE PROCLAMATION.

OKAY. SING ON OUR WAY OUT.

OKAY. YOU GOT IT.

OKAY. THERE YOU GO.

OKAY. YES.

RIGHT. WISDOM.

I WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

SURE. OKAY. JUST ABOUT THIS IS PETE KELLY.

I AM PETE CAMP.

BOTH PK AND WE HAVE THOROUGHLY CONFUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE OF THE POND.

THE KOREANS ARE GOING ARE JUST.

YES. SO WE HAVE TWO WOMEN WITH PETE CAMP.

I MEAN, PETE KAY WITH LAST NAMES.

YEP. THEY STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND.

YEAH. SO ALL RIGHT, WELL I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO PETE KAY AT GMAIL.COM.

SEE WHAT HAPPENS. YEAH. YEAH.

GOOD TO SEE. SEE WHERE IT GOES.

ALL RIGHT. A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.

GREETINGS. THEODORE DENTON HAS BEEN DENTON'S PREMIER NONPROFIT PERFORMING ARTS ORGANIZATION SINCE IT WAS FIRST CHARTERED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS IN 1969.

AND WHEREAS AUDIENCES FROM DENTON AND AROUND THE GLOBE HAVE ENJOYED THOSE 54 CONSECUTIVE SEASONS OF OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCES.

AND WHEREAS IN JULY 2023 THEATER DENTON PRODUCED 11 SOLD OUT PERFORMANCES OF THE BROADWAY HIT MUSICAL SINGIN IN THE RAIN, CAST ENTIRELY WITH LOCAL ACTORS AND MUSICIANS, DIRECTED BY LOCAL DIRECTORS AND AND CREW BY LOCAL THEATER TECHNICIANS. AND WHEREAS, THE CAST AND ORCHESTRA OF SINGIN IN THE RAIN HAS BEEN INVITED AS A HEADLINE ATTRACTION TO THE TO THE DATE GATE AND DAEGU INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL MUSICAL FESTIVAL, ONE OF THE LARGEST MUSICAL FESTIVALS IN ASIA, IN DAEGU, SOUTH KOREA IN JULY 2024.

AND WHEREAS, 42 MEMBERS OF THE CAST, ORCHESTRA AND CREW A MEMBER, A MEMBER OF THE THEATER DENTON GOVERNING BOARD, AS WELL AS SEVERAL CHAPERONS AND COMPANIONS, WILL BE TRAVELING TO DAEGU FOR FOUR PERFORMANCES AND REPRESENTING THE WONDERFUL CITY OF DENTON.

NOW, THEREFORE, I.

GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM JULY 1ST THROUGH JULY 7TH, 2024 AS THEATER DENTON AND THE DAEGU INTERNATIONAL MUSICAL FESTIVAL WEEK IN THE CITY OF DENTON.

IF WE GIVE THEM A HAND.

SO THEN WE'LL GET PICTURES HERE AND THEN WE.

COME AROUND. YO, COME ON UP.

YEAH. COME ON UP HERE.

BRING IT IN.

FIND A WINDOW. GO IN THREE, TWO, ONE. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL LET YOU ALL TAKE IT.

WHO'S WHO'S.

YEAH, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

YES. SIX.

FIVE. SIX. SEVEN.

I'M SICK.

THE RAIN.

JUST SINGIN IN THE RAIN.

WHAT A GLORIOUS FEAT.

FINE. I'M.

ME AGAIN. I LOVE.

IN OUR CLOUDS.

SO DARK UP ABOVE THE SUN.

SING MY HEART AND.

AND SO I START A COUNCIL MEETING RIGHT THERE.

YES. AND AND BY WAY OF ANOTHER PROCLAMATION, I WANTED TO OR JUST A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT, WANTED TO TURN IT BACK

[01:40:07]

OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

DURING THE WORK SESSION TODAY, THE MAYOR ASKED ME TO ADDRESS THERE'S AN ITEM ON CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT WHICH IS GOING TO SEEK COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REMOVING A DISCRIMINATORY PROVISION THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DEED FOR THE CITY OF DENTON'S CEMETERY.

HE ASKED ME TO IDENTIFY SOME INDIVIDUALS, AT LEAST IN MY OFFICE, THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS AND DONE A GOOD JOB OF COMING UP WITH THE CONCEPT.

BEN SAMPLES AND AND DEVIN ALEXANDER DID A WONDERFUL JOB.

I WAS TOTALLY REMISS TO NOT MENTION THE LOCAL ORGANIZATION, THE LOCAL LODGE OF THE INDEPENDENT ORDER OF ODD FELLOWS.

ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS WE GOT FROM THE COUNCIL WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS WAS TO REACH OUT TO THEM, HAVE THEIR INPUT AND PARTICIPATION, AND THEY WERE COMPLETELY SUPPORTIVE AND COOPERATIVE IN THIS PROCESS.

THEY PROVIDED A CORRECTION DEED AS WELL TO THE CITY THAT WILL REMOVE THIS PROVISION.

THEY GOT THAT BACK TO US.

AND JUST A FEW DAYS THEY GOT ALL THE SIGNATURES.

SO THEY WERE COMPLETELY ON BOARD AND SUPPORTIVE AND WANTED TO EXPRESS HOW MUCH THEY SUPPORTED THIS AS WELL.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LEAVE THAT OUT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT.

AND THEN.

[3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM.

SPEAKERS WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT.

A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED.

IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING.

IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS.

IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NONSCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS.

THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY.

SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY.

YEAH. YES.

THANK YOU. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS DONNA SMITH.

IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING. I'M DONNA SMITH, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

YOU GUYS WORK REALLY HARD, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY.

FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS ARE IN ORDER TO THE MAYOR FOR WINNING YOUR RACE.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND TO BRANDON MCGEE.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND TO JILL JESTER.

CONGRATULATIONS.

AND I'M KIND OF ONE OF THOSE GIRLS THAT LIKES NEW BEGINNINGS.

AND I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS LIKE A NEW BEGINNING FOR THE COUNCIL.

AND MY, MY HOPE IS THAT AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS STARTING OVER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN MAY, NOT JANUARY, THAT THIS WILL BE A NEW BEGINNING FOR YOU TO WORK TOGETHER WITH YOUR FELLOW COUNCILMEN, AND TO LISTEN TO THE CITY, AND JUST TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR US.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WORK HARD.

I DID HEAR ABOUT THE I.O.O.F.

CEMETERY, AND I'M REALLY, REALLY HAPPY THAT THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG WITH THAT SO THAT THE THE WORDING IS CHANGED SO THAT IT'S NO LONGER SOMETHING THAT IS SO HORRENDOUS.

SO I'M JUST REALLY GLAD THAT THIS IS MOVING ALONG.

[01:45:03]

SO I'M HAPPY FOR THAT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I FOUND OUT TODAY, BECAUSE I WAS I LOOK AT THE TRY TO LOOK AT THE AGENDA BEFORE I COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SO I NOTICED THAT WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, A NOMINATION LIST, AND I LIKE THIS.

AND PART OF IT IS THAT NEW BEGINNINGS THOUGHT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO TO COME AND TO VOLUNTEER TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, TO LEND THEIR THOUGHT PROCESSES, THEIR GIFTS AND TALENTS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS. SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

SO ON HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHO EVERYBODY IS, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S SEVERAL OF YOU THAT ARE ON THE BOARD THAT ARE MAKING THE NOMINATIONS.

AND SO I'M JUST HOPEFUL THAT AS WE GO, AS YOU GUYS WILL EVENTUALLY VOTE ON THIS, THAT YOU'LL KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE WAS THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO TO THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TAKING THESE POSITIONS.

AND SO I'M, I KNOW WHO A COUPLE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE, AND I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ALL WOULD JUST APPROVE THE NOMINEES FOR TONIGHT.

AND I THANK YOU IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU LISTEN AND YOU WORK HARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT VERY, VERY MUCH.

SO THANKS AGAIN.

THANK YOU. AND THEN THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DANIEL COWART.

OKAY. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DANIEL COWART.

I AM A JEWISH MAN WHO HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR PALESTINIAN RIGHTS FOR OVER A DECADE.

I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE MAKE A STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF A CEASE FIRE IN GAZA.

EVERY DAY PEOPLE ARE BEING SLAUGHTERED, BOMBED AND STARVED IN GAZA.

WE, AS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF DENTON, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT.

STAND UP FOR PEACE.

WE NEED TO.

OF COURSE, OUR CITY CANNOT SINGLE HANDEDLY SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING OUT OF THIS.

WE NEED TO PLAY OUR PART.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO BE BRAVE, TO CHOOSE PEACE.

TO SAY NO.

NO MORE TO DEATH AND STARVATION.

SAY NO TO VIOLENCE.

I'M ASKING YOU TO BE LEADERS, TO LET DENTON BE ONE OF THE FIRST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE THE CONSCIENCE TO PREVENT MORE DISASTER.

TO SEE THAT THIS VIOLENCE.

YES. I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT THIS VIOLENCE ONLY BREEDS MORE VIOLENCE, AND THAT PEACE IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD.

IF WE SAY SOMETHING, OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL BE MORE WILLING TO FOLLOW OUR LEAD.

DENTON'S LEAD.

AND WE CAN TELL THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES THAT WE NEED TO BUILD A FUTURE THAT IS SAFER FOR EVERYONE, WHERE EVERYONE CAN LIVE WITH DIGNITY, WHERE WE LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST.

WE'VE ALL BEEN SEEING THE WARNING SIGNS OF GENOCIDE, AND I DON'T USE THAT TERM LIGHTLY.

THE POINT OF HAVING THESE SCHOLARS OF GENOCIDE AND HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCACY GROUPS, AND THE ICJ AND HOLOCAUST SCHOLARS, THEY SAY THAT A GENOCIDE IS HAPPENING, AND THEY SAY THAT.

SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT ONE FROM HAPPENING.

NOT WHEN IT'S TOO LATE.

NOT SO. WE CAN JUST RETROACTIVELY SAY AFTER EVERYTHING'S BEEN DONE, AFTER ALL THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE.

IT WAS A GENOCIDE.

I NEED YOU TO RECOGNIZE IT.

I NEED YOU TO SEE WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU AND NOT TRY AND CONTEXTUALIZE IT OR JUSTIFY IT WITH THE FRAMING WE'RE GIVEN AS AMERICANS WHEN WE WATCH THE NEWS, WHERE JUST BECAUSE ISRAEL IS OUR ALLY, WE TRY TO AVOID CRITICISMS OF THE ACTIONS OF A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT.

LOOK AT THE BOMBS.

LOOK AT THE WRECKAGE.

LOOK AT HOW AID IS BLOCKED.

LOOK AT HOW AID WORKERS ARE KILLED.

LOOK AT THE INVASION OF RAFAH.

LOOK AT THE HARROWING LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED.

CHILDREN WHO HAVE DIED.

SO MANY TRAPPED UNDER RUBBLE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW.

WE CAN'T EVEN GET CONCRETE NUMBERS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE EVEN THERE TO SEE.

LOOK AT THE HUMANITY OF OTHERS AND TELL ME THERE'S A WORLD WHERE YOU THINK THAT ALL OF THAT, EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IS GOING TO SOLVE.

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WHAT DOES IT MAKE BETTER? EVERY CONFLICT ENDS WITH PEACE.

THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO.

AND I'M ASKING YOU TO HAVE THAT FORESIGHT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND TO CALL FOR PEACE BEFORE MORE PEOPLE DIE.

IN YOUR CONSCIENCE.

YOU MUST KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG, THAT SOMETHING COULD BE BETTER.

THINK OF THE CITIZENS OF DENTON.

THINK OF THE PALESTINIAN AMERICANS LIVING HERE WHO HAVE FAMILY IN GAZA OR THE WEST BANK, AND THEN THEY WANT TO KEEP THEM SAFE.

THINK OF THE JEWISH AMERICANS LIVING HERE WHO HAVE FAMILY IN ISRAEL, AND THEY WANT TO KEEP THEM SAFE.

DO YOU THINK ANYONE IS SAFER AFTER ALL OF THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED ON EITHER SIDE? OR THINK ABOUT HOW HISTORICALLY, WHENEVER CONFLICT STARTS IN ISRAEL, ISLAMOPHOBIC AND ANTI-SEMITIC HATE CRIMES.

THANK YOU. AND THAT'S YOUR TOM, I APPRECIATE IT.

SO BEFORE I CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER, I WANT I WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE FAIR NOTICE.

SO ITEMS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS P, B AND E HAVE BEEN PULLED.

SO YOU WOULD NEED TO FILL OUT A BLUE CARD BEFORE I CALL THOSE NUMBERS.

IF YOU, YOU WOULD DESIRE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE ISSUES.

SO AGAIN THAT'S P B OR ITEM P HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

SO THAT WON'T BE CALLED.

BUT ITEM B AND E HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.

SO THOSE IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK ON YOU'D NEED TO FILL OUT A BLUE CARD IN ADVANCE.

SO B AND E BEFORE I CALL THOSE.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE REST OF OUR SPEAKERS.

WE HAVE FIVE MORE SPEAKERS.

THEN WE'LL GET INTO THAT CONSENT SECTION.

BUT I WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO IF YOU DESIRE TO SPEAK, THAT YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ADVANCE NOTICE THAT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PULLED.

SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT OKAY.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JUSTIN WEISS.

HI COUNCIL, I'M JUSTIN, I'M BACK AGAIN.

AND I WOULD REALLY EVERY EVERY TIME WE DO ONE OF THESE, I REALLY THINK ABOUT OPENING UP A STATEMENT WITH KISSING YOUR ASS ALSO, BUT I JUST CAN'T DO IT IN GOOD FAITH, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT OF A JOB YOU'RE DOING AND ALL THAT WHEN YOU IGNORE US WEEK AFTER WEEK.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE TO JUST LICK YOUR BOOTS BECAUSE THEY LOVE WHAT THEY DO, MAYBE, OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO.

THAT'S POSSIBLE, OF COURSE, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO DENY A SPOT SO THAT YOU ARE NOT BOMBARDED BY THESE NECESSARY MESSAGES.

RIGHT. REMOVING A SPOT THAT WE CAN SPEAK ON.

BUT THE THING IS, YOU SEE US, RIGHT? EVERY TWO WEEKS, YOU SEE US, WE'RE HERE, AND YOU'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

IF YOU WANT A REAL INDICATION, ASK YOUR SECRETARY WHAT THE PHONES ARE LIKE THE WEDNESDAY MORNING AFTER A MEETING AT 8 A.M..

THEY'RE NOT SHIELDING YOU FROM THESE MESSAGES BY TELLING YOU HOW LOVELY OF A JOB YOU'RE DOING.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO LOOK AWAY, EITHER.

SO HERE'S THE THING.

WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU FOR A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT.

WE'RE BARELY ASKING YOU FOR A TIME COMMITMENT.

WE ARE ONLY ASKING YOU TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST CHILDREN BEING TARGETED BY DRONE STRIKES.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE, QUOTE, PUTTING PALESTINIANS ON A DIET, WHICH IS THE ISRAELI TERM FOR DENYING HUMANITARIAN AID INTO GAZA OR AGAINST, QUOTE, MOWING THE GRASS, WHICH IS THE ISRAELI TERM FOR LEVELING CITIES AND ENACTING HORRIFYING VIOLENCE AGAINST PALESTINIANS.

SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET YOU TO DO SOMETHING? AND I THINK I, YOU KNOW, I ASKED THAT THAT ONE'S A HYPOTHETICAL BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER.

IT'S TO GET YOU ON BOARD, RIGHT? TO GET YOU TO BELIEVE THAT PALESTINIANS DO HAVE A RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION AND A RIGHT TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF A VIOLENT APARTHEID STATE.

SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE GET YOU THERE? RIGHT? BECAUSE IF THE VIDEO IS OF FAMILIES KILLED UNDER RUBBLE AREN'T ENOUGH, OR THE IMAGES OF KIDS WHO ARE SO HUNGRY THAT YOU CAN SEE THEIR RIBS, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, WHAT'S GOING TO GET YOU THERE? I MENTIONED ONCE BEFORE, I'M AN EDUCATOR, AND SO I WORK WITH A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE, AND I FIND MYSELF THINKING REALLY OFTEN, WHAT IF IT WAS THEIR LIVES UPROOTED, RIGHT.

WHEN I'M WHEN I'M IN A CLASSROOM WITH A MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOLER.

RIGHT. WHAT IF WHAT IF THEY WERE STARVING? WHAT IF THEY WERE HAVING LIMBS AMPUTATED? AND I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT MY STUDENTS ARE ANY DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE, RIGHT? EVERYBODY DESERVES TO LIVE.

SO HOW DO WE GET YOU THERE? WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO DENOUNCE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO GAZANS TO CALL FOR A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE, OR EVEN SOMETHING AS NON-COMMITTAL AS OFFERING A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR THE PALESTINIANS IN YOUR COMMUNITY? YOU COULD SAY LIKE, HEY, ON TWITTER OR WHATEVER WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE.

I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY SCARY FOR A LOT OF PALESTINIAN PEOPLE IN DENTON BECAUSE LIKE DANIEL SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT FAMILY OVER THERE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE YOURSELF IN THOSE VIDEOS OF A NINE YEAR OLD WHO LOOKS JUST LIKE YOU GETTING DENIED AID AND BLOWN UP.

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SO JUST TO SPEAK UP, WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE PRESENT DEMANDING THAT YOU ARE REPRESENTATIVES.

TAKE ACTION UNTIL SOMETHING CHANGES.

SO I REALLY HOPE YOU TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UP, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS THOMAS WOOD.

YES, SIR. HELLO, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT.

FIRST OFF, I DO WANT TO REITERATE JUST THE WORDS OF OUR FIRST SPEAKER HERE, DONALD SMITH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO FOR US.

I'M NOT TRYING TO LICK YOUR BOOTS, BUT I AM GENUINELY THANKFUL FOR YOUR HELP.

I COME HERE TONIGHT FOR JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE DRAINAGE FLOODING ISSUES THAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TAKING PLACE BEHIND MY HOUSE.

I WISH I HAD MORE TO TELL YOU ALL SINCE I LAST CAME HERE AND SPOKE WITH YOU LAST TIME.

I'VE HAD ONE PHONE CALL, AND I'VE SENT AN EMAIL AND NOT GOT A RESPONSE SO THAT.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S THAT'S THE UPDATE I'VE HAD.

I KNOW MY NEIGHBOR SENT OUT AN EMAIL THAT MOST OF YOU GOT, MAYBE THIS THIS AFTERNOON.

IN PASSING ON MY WAY HERE, HE DID SAY THAT HE DID GET A RESPONSE FROM FROM SCOTT MCDONALD.

HOPEFULLY THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD NOW WITH SOMEWHAT OF A SOLUTION.

THE SOLUTION THAT WAS SUGGESTED WAS A OPEN.

FOUR FOOT CONCRETE FLUME RUNNING DOWN IN BETWEEN OUR PROPERTIES THE LENGTH OF OUR PROPERTIES.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK YOU ALL QUESTIONS, SO MAYBE JUST BY A SHOW OF HANDS, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO OPEN CONCRETE FLUME RUNNING DOWN THEIR PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, MY NEIGHBOR AND I DON'T EITHER.

THAT DETENTION POND BEHIND OUR HOUSE WAS APPROVED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HERE IN DENTON WITHOUT A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

HAD IT BEEN DESIGNED AND APPROVED WITH A DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM THE GET GO, AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

THERE WOULD NOT BE. THERE WOULD BE NO FLOODING.

THERE WOULD BE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THERE WOULD BE A PIPE.

THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING. IT WOULD TAKE IT ALL THE FLOOD WATER TO THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM FOR THE CITY OF CARROLLTON INSTEAD THAT.

DRAINAGE EASEMENT, WHICH IS OR THAT DRAINAGE POND WHICH THEY CALL A RAIN GARDEN.

IT JUST DELUGES RIGHT ONTO THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY.

ONE CITY EMPLOYEE, INSPECTOR, I MET OUT THE SITE.

HIS RESPONSE WAS, WELL, IT'S BUILT PER THE APPROVED PLANS.

YOU KNOW, THE APPROVED PLANS.

THOSE NUMBERS ON THE TABLES COULD BE CORRECT.

THEY COULD BE NOT.

I DO KNOW THIS.

AND EVERYONE HERE HAS USED A GARDEN HOSE.

JUST A PLAIN OLD, SIMPLE GARDEN HOSE TO WATER OUR PLANT.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT YOUR THUMB OVER THIS SPOUT? AND BLOCKED MOST OF IT.

THE WATER SHOOTS UP FURTHER.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS THING HAS DONE.

THEY TAKEN AN ACRE OF A PROPERTY.

THEY DRAIN IT ALL TO ONE LITTLE POND.

AND IN THAT POND THEY HAVE A FOUR INCH PIPE THAT OUTLETS AT THE BACK OF MY FENCE AND GOES INTO MY BACKYARD AND INTO MY BEDROOM.

SAME ON MY NEIGHBOR'S SIDE.

SO. I'M ASKING FOR HELP.

HOPEFULLY WITH SCOTT MCDONALD.

HE SAYS HE'S GOT A SOLUTION.

HE WANTS TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE CITY STAFF MEET WITH ME AND MY NEIGHBORS.

HOPEFULLY SOMETHING WILL COME OF THAT.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LISTENING TO ME AND TRYING TO HELP ANY WAY Y'ALL CAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, WE HAVE ONE ONE QUESTION REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

OKAY. THAT'S ME.

OKAY. SO JUST JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU, YOU HAVE YOU ARE ARRANGING FOR MEETINGS WITH MR. MCDONALD. I, I HAVE NOT TALKED WITH SCOTT MCDONALD ABOUT A MEETING.

HE RESPONDED TO MY NEIGHBOR'S EMAIL THAT WAS SENT OUT LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

AND MY NEIGHBOR SAID THAT SCOTT MCDONALD SUGGESTED LET'S LET'S SCHEDULE A TIME FOR A MEETING THAT WE HAVEN'T SCHEDULED A MEETING DATE. I'M CONFIDENT THAT MR. MCDONALD, WHO'S SITTING ABOUT TEN FEET BEHIND YOU, WILL WILL WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THIS ISSUE, RIGHT.

I DO.

I WANT TO FOLLOW UP. GET HERE.

BECAUSE. DID STAFF NOT TALK TO YOU AFTER TUESDAY'S MEETING? OH, NO. WE TALKED OUT IN THE HALL.

YES, BUT I MEAN, I SINCE SINCE I WAS LAST HERE, I'VE HAD THE ONE PHONE CALL AND THE ONE EMAIL.

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DID YOU WANT TO. I WAS OUT THERE AND I COMMITTED TO YOU.

YES, MA'AM. AND HE COMMITTED TO YOU THAT WE WOULD WORK THROUGH THIS.

RIGHT. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

OKAY, SO HERE HE IS.

OKAY. TALK TO HIM AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT. THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU.

BUT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A QUICK FIX.

THERE'S THERE'S A LOT HERE.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OUTSIDE THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

YES MA'AM. SO YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE US A LITTLE CHANCE TO GET SOME TIME HERE.

AND WE'VE HAD ENGINEERS OUT THERE TO LOOK AT IT.

AND I TRUST SCOTT, I TRUST SCOTT TO, TO HELP SOLVE THIS.

OKAY. BUT WE ARE NOT BEING DISHONEST WITH YOU.

IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT SOLUTION.

I NEVER ACCUSED NO.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'RE NOT. WE CARE ABOUT YOU.

WE CARE ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORS.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER THAT'S BEHIND IS HAS AGREED TO TRY TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF FINDING THE RIGHT SOLUTION IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE MORE HARM.

RIGHT. SO. SO IF YOU WILL TALK TO SCOTT, WE'LL KEEP WORKING AT THIS AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, I PROMISE I UNDERSTAND I APPRECIATE OKAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT OKAY.

MYRA RUSSELL.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS AMEER RASOOL.

I AM A PALESTINIAN AMERICAN AND AS I'VE PROMISED, I AM BACK TONIGHT TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU WILL HAVE TO EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE TONIGHT.

ACCORDING TO THE MERRIAM-WEBSTER, THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE CONTAINS UP TO 1 MILLION WORDS.

OUGHT TO BE OR ARABIC HAS 12 MILLION.

SO AS I FORCE MY MOUTH TO DEVOLVE INTO A LANGUAGE I WAS NEVER MEANT TO SPEAK, YOU WILL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME.

I AM MISSING 11 MILLION WORDS.

WORDS THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED ME TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDPARENTS.

WORDS THAT WOULD SPARE ME FROM THE SHAME OF NOT ONLY LOSING MY MOTHERLAND, BUT MY MOTHER TONGUE TOO.

BEING PALESTINIAN WITHIN THE DIASPORA IS MADDENING.

IT IS MADDENING TO SIT IDLY BY IN MY HOUSE WITH ACCESS TO FOOD AND CLEAN WATER, WHILE MILLIONS OF MY PEOPLE SUFFER IN FAMINE.

THE GUILT OF SLEEPING IN MY BED, KNOWING MY PEOPLE SLEEP IN TENTS ON THE HARD GROUND WITH THE SOUNDS OF DRONES OVERHEAD. DRONES THAT I PAID FOR WITH MY TAX DOLLARS.

IS UNDESCRIBABLE.

EVEN SO, I WATCH MY PEOPLE BROADCAST THEIR SUFFERING TO THE WORLD WITH THEIR HEADS HELD HIGH AND THEIR SPIRITS STILL INTACT. YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE LOVE AND THE REVERENCE I HAVE FOR MY PEOPLE.

YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THAT POWER, AND THAT POWER IS NOT FOR YOU.

THAT POWER BELONGS TO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND LOST, SACRIFICED AND BLED, AND YET STILL RESIST.

AND IN THAT POWER LIES HOPE.

IT IS WHAT BRINGS ME TO YOU TODAY.

IT IS ALL THAT IS LEFT IN MY HEAD WHEN I REMEMBER THAT I HAVE SEEN MORE PALESTINIANS DEAD THAN ALIVE.

WHEN I HAVE SEEN CHILDREN IN PIECES.

THE COURAGE FOUND IN ONE CURLING STRAND OF HAIR FROM A PALESTINIAN CHILD'S HEAD IS MORE THAN WHAT CAN BE FOUND IN THE LOT OF YOU COMBINED.

I AM INCREDIBLY PROUD TO BE PALESTINIAN, AND I AM NOT AFRAID OF ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD, BUT BECOMING A PERSON WHO CAN TURN AWAY AND STAY SILENT TO HUMAN SUFFERING. BECOMING A PERSON LIKE YOU.

IT IS A FATE THAT IS WORSE TO ME THAN DEATH, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH YOU ARE STILL LIVING, YOUR SOULS WILL BE FOREVER DARKENED BY YOUR COWARDICE. I HOPE YOU FEEL THAT THE DISGUST LACING MY WORDS, BUT I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT YOU CAN.

MAYBE IN THOSE LOST 11 MILLION WORDS ARE THE RIGHT ONES TO HELP YOU FIND YOUR HUMANITY.

BUT THESE ARE THE WORDS I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY.

SOME OF YOUR ANCESTORS WOULD BE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF HOW YOU'VE MAINTAINED THIS COLONIAL REGIME, AND SOME OF YOUR ANCESTORS WOULD ROLL IN THEIR GRAVES TO SEE WHAT'S BECOME OF THEIR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.

TO THE LATTER, I ASK OF YOU.

LOOK FOR YOUR LOST LANGUAGE, THE IDENTITY THAT HAS BEEN STRIPPED FROM YOU, AND ASK YOURSELF WHO STOLE IT.

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NEXT IS ELIZABETH CLINTON.

YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME.

YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

HI, I'M ELIZABETH CLINTON.

AFTER 230 DAYS AND 76 YEARS OF GENOCIDE AND OCCUPATION, IT'S DIFFICULT TO EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.

I GUESS I'LL BEGIN BY SAYING THAT IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE STOP THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA AND FREE PALESTINE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

OVER 35,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE IN GAZA, WITH 15,000 OF THOSE BEING CHILDREN, HAVE BEEN MURDERED.

ISRAEL HAS COMMITTED THE WORST CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY ON THE PALESTINIANS.

BEATING. BURNING.

BOMBING. BEHEADING.

MAIMING. KIDNAPING.

FORCIBLY DISPLACING.

STARVING, BURYING ALIVE IN MASS GRAVES AT HOSPITALS, AND TAKING PALESTINIANS TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN ISRAEL.

THEY'VE ALSO DESTROYED ALL VITAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOSPITALS AND HOMES AND SCHOOLS AND MOSQUES AND CHURCHES.

THEY'VE TARGETED DOCTORS, ACADEMICS, NURSES, TEACHERS, LAWYERS, HUMANITARIAN WORKERS AND JOURNALISTS.

THEY BOMBED MOSQUES AND CHURCHES.

THIS IS A GENOCIDE.

RIGHT NOW, WE ARE WATCHING AS ISRAEL GOES ON A VIOLENT RAMPAGE, SHUTTING THE BORDER CROSSING AT RAFAH AND BOMBING FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH.

YANNI, THE 35,000 PEOPLE KILLED ARE NOT JUST NUMBERS, THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS WITH HUMAN RIGHTS.

SO HOW CAN A STATE MURDER 35,000 PEOPLE WITH SUCH IMPUNITY? TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY FRIEND EYAD.

HE'S 22 YEARS OLD AND HAS NOT LEFT GAZA CITY.

AND THIS GENOCIDE, HIS FATHER, HIS LITTLE BROTHER, HIS BEST FRIENDS, HIS AND HIS COUSINS HAVE ALL BEEN MURDERED.

HE'S 22 YEARS OLD.

HE HAS LOST HIS HOUSE AND HIS MOTHER HAS BEEN BADLY INJURED IN A SEPARATE BOMBING.

AND THERE ARE NO FUNCTIONING HOSPITALS TO GIVE HER PROPER TREATMENT.

SHE'S 39 YEARS OLD.

SHE IS MY AGE.

HE IS A JOURNALIST.

AND WHEN SHIFA HOSPITAL WAS BESIEGED, HE WAS TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HE WAS SNIPED IN HIS SHOULDER FOR TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF STARVING CHILDREN. DESPITE ALL OF THE VIOLENCE INFLICTED UPON HIM, ALL HE WANTS TO DO IS RAISE MONEY TO FEED THE STARVING ORPHANS IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERY DAY I GO TO BED PRAYING THAT MY FRIENDS WILL BE ALIVE THE NEXT DAY WHEN I WAKE UP.

AND SO I'VE HEARD CITY COUNCIL SAY THIS IS NOT A LOCAL ISSUE, BUT WHEN OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING USED TO MASSACRE CHILDREN, THAT JUSTIFICATION RINGS HOLLOW AND IS OVERWHELMING IN ITS LACK OF HUMANITY.

FOR SEVEN MONTHS, OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY HAVE BEEN MURDERED AND THEY'VE BEEN MURDERED BY OUR TAX DOLLARS.

SO MAYBE WHEN WE GO ON STRIKE AND ALL STOP GOING TO SCHOOL AND WORK, YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS IS A LOCAL ISSUE.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SKIP AHEAD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I HEARD THAT I HEARD GREG JOHNSON, A FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, SAY THINGS LIKE A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION WOULD GIVE DENTON A BAD REPUTATION AND TURN AWAY BUSINESS.

SO THAT MAKES ME WONDER WHERE IS HIS HUMANITY? AND IT ALSO GIVES YOU INSIGHT INTO THE THINKING OF A CITY COUNCIL THAT VIEWS OUR CITY AS A BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY.

HOW MUCH DIVESTING DOES OUR CITY HAVE TO DO FROM THIS GENOCIDE? SO I'LL JUST WRAP UP BY SAYING, BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL IS SITTING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY AND WILL BE JUDGED ACCORDINGLY.

SO WE CALL ON YOU TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY AND CALL FOR A CEASEFIRE, BECAUSE WE WON'T STOP UNTIL PALESTINE IS FREE.

THANK YOU. BEFORE I CALL THE LAST SPEAKER AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED, JUST GIVING PEOPLE FAIR NOTICE, ITEM B AND ITEM E WERE PULLED FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.

SO I NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A BLUE CARD IF YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON EITHER B OR E, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, THOSE TWO THINGS THE LAST SPEAKER THAT I HAVE IS STEVEN DILLENBURG.

IT'S ONE MORE TIME. STEPHEN.

DILLENBURG. OKAY, THEN MATT PANETTA.

YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME.

YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

I AIN'T GOT. I WASN'T EXPECTING TO SPEAK TODAY AFTER ALL.

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I JUST WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE ON SOMETHING AND THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION BACK ON APRIL 16TH.

A PITCH WAS MADE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON COUNCIL CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS.

THIS WAS AN INHERENTLY A GREAT IDEA.

BECAUSE AS DENTON GROWS, MORE MONEY COMES IN AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WILL FACE CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF THAT GROWTH.

GROWTH. CLARIFICATIONS ON HOW THESE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN COUNCILORS AND DEVELOPERS IS IMPERATIVE, I THINK RULES ON HOW THEY ARE REPORTED AND PROHIBITIONS AND PENALTIES SHOULD BE MADE EXPLICIT.

AND I THINK THESE THINGS SHOULD BE REVISITED.

BASICALLY IN GREATER DETAIL.

THIS HAS COME BACK SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT SUGGESTIONS.

NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE GONE THROUGH, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PITCH, WHICH MANY OF US HAVE WANTED TO SEE ADDRESSED, WAS SHOT DOWN BY THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL, CITING PROXIMITY TO AN ELECTION. WHICH RAISES A BIG QUESTION.

AND SOME OF THE LANGUAGE WAS DURING AN ELECTION SEASON, THE PRETEXT FOR REFORM MUST NOT BLAH BLAH BLAH.

WE CAN'T SUPPORT THIS PITCH AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF A POLITICAL THEATER.

THIS IS POLITICAL. WE CAN DO THIS AT A DIFFERENT TIME.

THE CORRECT THING TO DO WOULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE TO OFFER STAFF GUIDANCE ON THE WORDING, BUT THE INTENTION WAS SOLID AND IT WAS GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS.

THAT DIDN'T MATTER, THOUGH, BECAUSE IT WAS ELECTION SEASON.

SO MAYBE WE CAN LATER ADDRESS INHERENT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND VOTING DOWN GOOD IDEAS IN ORDER TO ADVANCE PEOPLE'S ELECTION PROSPECTS? BECAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS IS CITY COUNCIL, NOT ELECTION COUNCIL.

RIGHT. SO IF A GOOD IDEA COMES UP, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE IT HAS MERIT, BUT NOT BECAUSE IT'S POLITICAL THEATER OR BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S NERVOUS ABOUT IT. BUT BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT AT THAT TIME.

WE WERE TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISSUE WOULD COME BACK AFTER THE ELECTION.

SO FAR IT HASN'T.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COME BACK.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL OR WHO'S GOING TO PITCH IT, BUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THAT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

RECENTLY, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, A COURT CASE WAS SETTLED AND IT WAS THE CITY OF DENTON VERSUS MICHAEL GRIMM AND JIM MAYNARD.

AND IN THAT DECISION, THERE WERE SEVERAL STATEMENTS MADE.

ONE OF THEM WAS, AS WITH MOST MULTI MEMBER GOVERNING BODIES, THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO BIND THE CITY OF DENTON THROUGH UNILATERAL ACTION, ABSENT A GRANT OF SUCH AUTHORITY IN THE CITY CHARTER AND ORDINANCE.

IT ALSO MENTIONS, UNLIKE A CITY SHERIFF OR A CITY ALDERMAN, A COUNCIL MEMBER GENERALLY HAS NO AUTHORITY TO ACT UNILATERALLY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OR EVEN WHEN AN ACTING IN OFFICIAL CAPACITY.

BECAUSE THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT MADE THIS STATEMENT.

IT KIND OF MAKES YOU WONDER WHY THERE WOULD EVER BE ANY EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN COUNCILORS AND DEVELOPERS.

FURTHERMORE, I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYBODY TO BE ASKING FOR MONEY FROM ANYBODY WHO'S A COUNCILOR, I MEAN, WHO'S A DEVELOPER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDRESSED.

BUT MOST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BACK AND HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THAT KIND OF ANSWERED, BECAUSE I THINK THE CITIZENS KIND OF DESERVE TO HEAR SOME ANSWERS. NOT BECAUSE BASICALLY IT WAS POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT AT THE TIME OR NOT POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT AT THE TIME, BUT BECAUSE YOU ALL SERVE US, NOT EACH OTHER AND NOT Y'ALL'S ELECTION PROSPECTS OR YOUR POLITICAL FUTURES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS, SOME OF Y'ALL ARE FRIENDS AND SOME OF YOU GUYS I'VE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED THINGS ON ELECTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I'M INHERENTLY FAIR.

THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS BECAUSE I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE BEING FAIR TO THE PEOPLE AT LARGE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BACK.

IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ELECTION SEASON.

HEY, I'VE GOT $5 TO THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN OF ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BRING THIS UP.

Y'ALL CAN CHOOSE TO DONATE IT TO WHOEVER YOU WANT.

BUT BUT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

TAKES US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE I TAKE A NOMINEE, A MOTION ON EVERYTHING.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

SO WE WON'T BE INCLUDING THAT IN THAT INITIAL NOMINATION.

BUT THEN ALSO I WANT TO AS KIND OF MACK CONCLUDED ON THE ISSUE WITH THE CEMETERY.

I'VE CEMETERY.

I WANT TO KIND OF GIVE A PAUSE AND KIND OF USE CHAIR'S DISCRETION TO GIVE POPS WILLY HUDSPETH AN OPPORTUNITY TO.

HE WAS FUNDAMENTAL IN BRINGING THIS TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION WAY BACK WHEN.

AND SO I WANT TO GIVE HIM LIKE, 45 SECONDS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS, THIS CHANGE WILL BE.

AND SO. POPS, POPS, COME ON, LET'S GET OVER HERE.

HURRY UP. YEAH.

[02:15:02]

I'LL BE FAIR. TODAY.

DAY, BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO JUST SHARE WHATEVER YOU WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS.

AGAIN, YOU BROUGHT THIS TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION WAY BACK WHEN THERE WAS A RESOLUTION PASSED.

NOW WE'RE GETTING READY TO VOTE ON TAKING THE NEXT STEP TO REMOVE THE LANGUAGE PERMANENTLY AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE BEFITTING 2024 DENTON.

AND SO THE FLOOR IS YOURS FOR FOUR MINUTES.

LET ME SAY. IS THIS ON? YEAH. OKAY. I TOLD OFFICER CARTER HE CAN TAKE THE WARRANT AWAY FROM YOUR NAME FOR NOT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

AND YOU'RE NOW ABLE TO COME TO SUNDAY DINNERS AGAIN, AND YOU CAN COME TO YOUR BABY ALLY'S BIRTHDAY PARTY.

OKAY? YOU WERE BANNED FROM ALL THOSE BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

BUT NOW YOU CAN COME.

AND I TELL OFFICER CARR HE COULD STILL PUT THE HANDCUFFS ON YOU JUST FOR FUN.

BUT I'VE TAKEN AWAY THE COMPLAINT.

THE ISSUE ON THE CEMETERY.

IMAGINE WITH ME.

YOU HAVE TRANSITIONED FROM THIS.

LIFE TO ANOTHER LIFE, AND YOU HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME IN THIS LIFE.

AND THE PLACE WHERE YOU COULD BE PLACED FOR BURIAL HAS PUT WORDAGE OR VERBIAGE IN THE DEED THAT SAID, NO ONE BUT WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE BURIED IN THIS CEMETERY.

AND MY TAXES PAID FOR THAT.

AND SO I JUST I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL BACK A FEW YEARS AGO TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BUT THEY DID LIKE THE COUNTY IS DOING. THEY HID BEHIND VERBIAGE THAT SAID, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

IT'S ILLEGAL TO CHANGE THAT DEED.

WELL, SOMEBODY LOOKED INTO THAT AND GOT IT CHANGED AND I APPLAUD YOU.

NOW I'M WONDERING IF ONE OF YOU.

VOTED AGAINST THIS, THEN I DON'T WANT TO BEAT YOU UP OR SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S YOUR RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DO IF YOU HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT.

FIND ME LATER AND TELL ME WHAT IT IS SO I CAN AT LEAST UNDERSTAND IT FROM YOUR STANDPOINT.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

I TOLD MY WIFE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE BURIED THERE FIRST, AND SHE TOLD ME WHERE TO GO AND HOW LONG TO STAY THERE.

SO SHE SHE SAID, I'M NOT.

YOU'RE GOING TO THAT THE MILITARY BURIAL GROUND.

I SAY, WHY? SHE SAID IT'S FREE.

THAT'S A WIFE FOR YOU RIGHT THERE.

SO AGAIN, I APPLAUD YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID.

MAKES MY HEART HAPPY.

I WANTED TO PLAY SOMETHING FOR YOU, BUT I CAN'T GET THE COMPUTER TO WORK.

I'M JUST OLD. I HAVE OLD TIMERS AND I CAN'T GET IT TO WORK.

BUT YOU WOULD HAVE LIKED IT, I THINK.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE GAZA PRESENTATION.

THAT'S SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT BEING IN THE MILITARY AND HAVING TO GO DO SOMETHING, BUT.

AND THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO.

SO. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. SO I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT FOR P WHICH IS POSTPONED, B WHICH IS PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

E WHICH IS PULL FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.

AND IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE NOTICE IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR WORK SESSION.

ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER CALLS FOR ADDRESSING PEOPLE BY THEIR POSITION.

I'M TRYING TO BE BETTER ABOUT THAT AND MAKE THAT TRANSITION.

SO THAT'S WHY THE CHANGE.

SO IT WENT AWAY.

DID YOU RAISE THEM? I SAW THEY'RE ON THEIR REPRESENTATIVE FROM.

DISTRICT THREE.

OH, UP TOP THERE. GOT IT.

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE, I MOVE APPROVAL.

REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO, I SECOND.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

[02:20:13]

[B. Consider nominations/appointments to the City’s Boards, Commissions, and Committees: Animal Shelter Advisory Committee, Parks, Recreation & Beautification Board, Planning & Zoning Commission, Public Utilities Board, Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One Board.]

TAKE THOSE UP FIRST.

MR.. MATT PANETTA.

AND COME UP. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MATT PANETTA. I HAVE THE UNFORTUNATE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS BEFORE I FIND OUT EXACTLY WHY IT WAS PULLED.

BUT. SO I GUESS I'LL KIND OF TEMPER MY MY MY STATEMENTS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ENTRY THAT AVERAGE CITIZENS HAVE INTO PUBLIC SERVICE AND TO REPRESENTING THEIR THEIR OTHER CITIZENS, THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEIR FRIENDS, THEIR FAMILY.

I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON PLANNING AND ZONING BEFORE I WHILE I HAD FINANCE EXPERIENCE, I HAD NO PLANNING AND ZONING EXPERIENCE BEFORE I WAS APPOINTED TO THAT.

AND I WAS LUCKILY, I HAD A GRACIOUS COUNCIL THAT APPROVED IT.

I KNOW THE MAYOR SERVED ON PLANNING AND ZONING, AND I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAD EXPERIENCE BEFORE HE WAS APPROVED OF COUNCILOR.

BECK SERVED ON PLANNING AND ZONING WITHOUT PRIOR EXPERIENCE.

COUNCIL YOU KNOW, COUNCILOR MCGEE SERVED ON ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE ONLY LIVED HERE A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE DO SERVE.

AND WE COME FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

I WAS SHARING A COMMENT ABOUT THIS EARLIER WHEN A FRIEND OF MINE, AND I'LL CALL HIM A FRIEND IF HE'S WATCHING TIM SMITH MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS PUT ON, I WAS CALLED I THINK DEB'S CRONY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I MADE A JOKE THAT I SAT NEXT TO CHRIS WATTS CRONY OR OR JOHN RYAN'S CRONY OR BOB LAW, AND WE LAUGHED BECAUSE WE BECAME FRIENDS OVER THAT TIME, AND WE HAD A LOT OF REALLY GREAT CONVERSATIONS.

AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAD DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

AND LOTS OF TIMES WE AGREED ON STUFF BECAUSE WE WERE NEIGHBORS AND WE CARED ABOUT PEOPLE.

I'M GLAD I WASN'T KEPT OFF THE BOARD BECAUSE PEOPLE THE MAJORITY AT THE TIME SHARED A DIFFERENT POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE THAN I DID.

AND I THINK THE PEOPLE OF DENTON GREATLY BENEFITED FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OUTLOOKS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT THESE THINGS.

NORMALLY, THESE THINGS ARE RUBBER STAMPED.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY THIS WAS TAKEN OUT TODAY.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL HEAR FROM THAT.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW HOW MUCH THEY SERVE.

THEY WANT TO SERVE.

DURING AN ELECTION THIS YEAR, I HEARD A COMMENT THAT A CITIZEN SAT HERE FOR 14 YEARS WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TIME SCHEDULES, BUT THIS IS AN ENTRY INTO SERVING PEOPLE.

AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME.

IT'D BE A DAMN SHAME TO TAKE SOMEBODY WHO FINALLY WANTS TO GET OFF THAT COUCH AND TO SHOVE THEM BACK ON IT.

IT WOULD BE VIOLENTLY RUDE.

SO ONCE AGAIN I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF EVERYBODY ON THIS.

I LOOKED AT THE WHO THE NOMINEES ARE, AND I CAN KIND OF FIGURE THAT MAYBE THIS IS SOME KIND OF THING, BECAUSE IT'S THE MAYOR'S NOMINEES AND THE MAYOR, AND I DON'T SEE EYE TO EYE VERY OFTEN. HE'S TALLER THAN I AM, BUT I MAKE UP FOR IT BY BEING INCREDIBLY SMART.

BUT HOPEFULLY THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND HOW WE APPROVE PEOPLE.

AND THIS DOESN'T WIND UP BEING BULLYING OUR NEIGHBORS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND I AND I TAKE YOUR POINT, AND THAT'S A VALID POINT ON SPEAKING.

WE HAVE 4 OR 5 NOMINEES, AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU A REBUTTAL OPPORTUNITY AT SOME POINT.

AND I'M GOING TO GET TO THAT BEFORE EVERYONE SPEAKS.

FAIR POINT. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

AND SO LET'S GET TO THAT.

AND IF THERE'S IF THERE'S A MOTION TO DENY, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GET WE'LL GET PEOPLE UP DURING THAT DISCUSSION COMPONENT.

RIGHT. SO THAT I'LL DO THAT I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. THAT'S FAIR OKAY.

SO BEFORE I CALL EVERYONE ELSE THE THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST APPOINTEE IS THE ANIMAL SHELTER COMMITTEE, IT'S WANDA.

C O N C E.

AND IT'S.

AND SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THAT APPOINTEE.

SO ANIMAL SHELTER IF YOU HAVE YOUR BACK UP IN FRONT OF YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THAT. OKAY, THE NAMES AND THE ORDER.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO TOP TO BOTTOM.

SO REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX.

I SAW YOUR NAME.

[02:25:01]

WE GOT TO GET USED TO BEING CALLED REPRESENTATIVE.

YEAH, RIGHT.

YOU GOT IT. YOU GOT IT.

NO, YOU GOT TO AND SEND A MOTION TO APPROVE.

COUNCILPERSON JESTER.

MY FIRST MEETING, OBVIOUSLY.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

NOMINEE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE WANDA COOTS.

OKAY, REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT THREE.

SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND DISCUSSION.

LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

TAKES US TO THE NEXT APPOINTEE.

PUBLIC UTILITY BOARD.

AARON NEWQUIST.

REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC UTILITY BOARD NOMINEE.

REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT SIX.

I SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

THAT PASSES SIX.

WHO DIDN'T VOTE. OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE TO RELOAD IT? OKAY. ONE MOMENT.

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOR JUST JUST ONE SECOND.

YES. YES, SIR.

WOULD WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION? I DON'T BELIEVE THE SCREEN REFLECTED THAT CORRECTLY.

OKAY, I KNOW WHO I SAW.

SECOND IT. I DON'T THINK THE SCREEN REFLECTED THAT.

OKAY. I BELIEVE IT WAS. COUNCILMAN GESTURED AT SECOND AND THE SCREEN SAID BYRD.

OKAY. IN THE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BECK.

I WAS JUST WATCHING THE GAME.

I KNOW WE'RE PUB.

TOMMY. NO, NO, I DON'T SEE IT YET.

THERE YOU GO. OKAY.

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

NET PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

TAKES US TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

ERICA GARLAND IS THE THE NOMINEE.

AND THEN. SO I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? REPRESENTATIVE.

DISTRICT FOUR. I SECOND THAT NOMINATION.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF.

SECOND BY REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT FOUR, HOLLAND.

DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE.

YES. SO I'M THE PERSON WHO PULLED THE ITEM.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO ESTABLISH THAT.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE NOMINEES ARE PERFECTLY NICE PERSON.

I COMPLETELY RESPECT ANYBODY WHO GOES THROUGH EVERYTHING IT TAKES TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND TO BE WILLING TO SERVE EVEN AFTER THAT EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, IS MUCH TO THE NOMINEE'S CREDIT.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ME.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE HERE.

PEOPLE CAN VOTE HOW THEY WANT.

NOWADAYS, SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE IS PART OF YOUR JOB APPLICATION.

AND YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN IN THE POSITION OF VOTING FOR SOMEONE WHO I WHO JUST RAN AGAINST ME.

[02:30:03]

I'VE GOT NO QUALMS WITH THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW.

BUT ONE THING THAT I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE I'M CONFIDENT AGREES ON IS EVERYBODY HERE LIKES DENTON.

AND I'M TROUBLED BY MULTIPLE PUBLIC POSTS ON DRC ARTICLES.

DENTON IS AWFUL.

DENTON ONLY HAS DENTON VOTERS TO BLAME FOR IT.

I CAN'T WAIT TO MOVE OUT OF THIS DOPED OUT CRACKHEAD TOWN.

DENTON GIVES ME THE ICK.

I WISH DENTON WOULD STOP BEING SO DENTON ME.

SO YOU KNOW, I'M I FULLY EXPECT THE NOMINEE WHO ULTIMATELY TAKES THE SEAT TO PROBABLY DIFFER FROM ME PHILOSOPHICALLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT ON THAT FUNDAMENTAL THING.

SO THAT'S MY REASON.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX.

I'M COUNCIL PERSON JESTER.

I HEAR WHAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER IS SAYING.

I ABSOLUTELY HEAR THAT.

HOWEVER, I THINK THE PERSON IN PARTICULAR THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THIS TIME HAS ADDRESSED THESE PAST SOCIAL MEDIA COMMENTS.

I IN I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE.

WE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BETTER.

I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT THAT I WILL MAKE A MISTAKE WHILE SITTING ON THIS COUNCIL.

I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE, BUT I THINK AS LONG AS SOMEONE IS WILLING TO SAY THEY COULD HAVE DONE BETTER, THAT THEY WANT TO DO BETTER, AND THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN THEY'RE CARING AND HEART FOR A COMMUNITY IN WAYS THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE DO.

FIRST OF ALL, JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE SECOND CHANCES.

PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SWITCH POLITICAL PARTIES.

PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.

AND IN PARTICULAR WITH THIS PERSON, I THINK THEY'RE QUALIFIED.

THEY'RE NOT DISQUALIFIED FROM SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY.

AND I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN OF THIS PERSON I TRULY DO BELIEVE THAT SHE IS LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND I THINK WOULD DO A GOOD JOB. BUT I DO GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCIL PERSON.

METZLER. HOWEVER, I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE, WE HAVE SEEN SOMEONE THAT IN THE PAST HAS PUT OUT COMMENTS THAT NOW, IN HINDSIGHT, THEY HAVE ADDRESSED AND ADDRESSED IN A WAY THAT I UNDERSTOOD AND THAT I ACCEPTED.

AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL DO THE SAME FOR ME IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. I'LL SPEAK.

THE PART THAT PAINS ME IS JUST AS GUILTY AS AS KIND OF JUMP IN CONCLUSIONS OR NOT BEING SUCCINCT IN MY COMMUNICATION OR NOT BEING WELL SPOKEN AT TIMES, BUT. BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GRACE, RIGHT? LET'S TALK ABOUT GRACE. LET'S TALK ABOUT GRACE FROM THE DAIS.

AND THE PERSON THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE OF CURRENT NOW DISTRICT THREE.

UNDERSTANDS AND THESE ARE ALL JUST ON POINT.

YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP.

IN 2022.

PLAGIARIZE THE CITY SECRETARY'S SEAL.

THAT'S UN THAT'S UN UN UNQUESTIONED.

AND RECEIVE GRACE.

THE PERSON IN REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT THREE.

REZONE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN SOUTHEAST.

DENTON LATER APOLOGIZED FOR IT.

HEY, I MADE A MISTAKE.

IT'S THERE STILL.

BUT HEY, I MADE A MISTAKE.

THAT'S HIS WORDS.

THEN ON A VOTE, THE ON REVERSE SETBACKS.

COUNCIL SAID.

STAFF SAID IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS SETBACK, YOU'LL BANKRUPT THE CITY BY $2 BILLION.

AND HE VOTED FOR IT.

BUT HE SAID, HEY, IT WAS JUST TO PROVE A POINT.

WE. WE ALL NEED GRACE.

I ABSOLUTELY WILL LOSE DECORUM.

AT LEAST FIVE TIMES BETWEEN NOW AND 2026.

BUT I ASK FOR YOUR GRACE.

I. AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMMENTS BECAUSE FROM THE DAIS THERE'S BEEN OBVIOUS QUESTIONABLE DECISIONS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU FALL ON YOUR IDEOLOGIES.

AND AND WE'RE STILL HERE, PEOPLE STILL WORK WITH US.

AND SO I JUST I HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SAME GRACE THAT'S EXTENDED TO US, OR AT LEAST ADMIT THOSE THINGS.

AND ANYONE THAT WANTS TO EMAIL ME AND SAY THOSE THINGS ARE WRONG, I'LL SEND YOU THE SCREENSHOTS.

THERE ARE 100% NO BIAS, JUST FACTS.

AND SO IT'S ROUGH BEING UP HERE.

IT'S ROUGH BEING IN PUBLIC.

BUT HERE'S WHAT I KNOW.

ERICA GARLAND GOT ROUND NUMBERS 5200 VOTES.

[02:35:08]

AND HERE'S JUST ANOTHER NUMBER.

RIGHT? IT'S JUST YOU LOOK IT UP.

2022. THE DISTRICT THREE REPRESENTATIVE AND I WERE IN THE SAME RACE ARGUING FOR OUR PASSION, OUR APPROACH TO PROBLEM SOLVING, AND I WAS SUCCESSFUL IN THAT RACE.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PHILOSOPHIES, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT JUST IDEOLOGIES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR THOUGHTS, WE BOTH HAVE THAT AND IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION TO GO HEAD TO HEAD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GUESS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL NUMBERS FROM OTHER THINGS.

YOU CAN JUST SEE IT.

AND THAT PLAYED OUT HOW IT PLAYED OUT.

AND SO I'M ASKING FOR SUPPORT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT MESSAGE TO SEND TO THOSE WHO WANT TO TO TO RUN.

IT'S AN ABSOLUTE MEAT GRINDER.

YOU SURVIVE THAT. OKAY.

GREAT. NOW LET'S JUST MOVE TO A POSITION THAT'S THAT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A MEAT GRINDER, BUT IT ALLOWS YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

SO I THINK PEOPLE DESERVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

AND IF YOU'VE NOT MADE A MISTAKE THEN IF YOU'RE NOT MISSPOKEN THEN HEY, BY ALL MEANS YOU CAN YOU CAN TAKE THE POSITION YOU TAKE. BUT IF YOU HAVE MADE A MISTAKE AND PEOPLE ON YOUR SUPPORTERS ARE NOT WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU, LET'S WORK WITH THEM.

SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

AND THEN ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? WE HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF, SECOND BY THE DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE.

LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN THEN.

AND THAT FAILS FOR THREE.

SO MATT, I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR MINUTE BACK BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO.

SO IF WE CAN GIVE ME ONE MINUTE.

SO IF PEOPLE WERE TO GO BY SOCIAL MEDIA, NOBODY WOULD THINK THAT SOMEBODY HATED DENTON MORE THAN ME.

I'VE ATTACKED IT FOR ANYTHING FROM NOT PUTTING BABY HOT DOGS IN A IN A NATIVITY ON THE COURTHOUSE.

AND A LOT OF YOU GUYS ON THE, ON THE, ON THE DAIS HAVE LAUGHED ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S BECOME A KIND OF JOKE.

WE ALL, WE ALL DO THINGS THAT ARE TRULY ONLINE.

THE IDEA THAT WE CAN'T OR WE SHOULDN'T ARE THERE HELD AGAINST US FOREVER IS, IS KIND OF A PROBLEMATIC THING.

BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE'RE PUNISHING SOMEBODY FOR BEING TOO NAIVE TO NOT CLEAN UP THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA BEFORE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

ONCE AGAIN, I DISAGREE WITH THIS.

I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IF SHE HADN'T COME WITHIN 85 VOTES OF WINNING, MAYBE THERE'D BE A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, RESULT HERE.

BUT I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS, AND I'M SHOCKED THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS.

BUT, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, IT WAS ALL ABOUT GETTING, YOU KNOW, GOOD WITH EACH OTHER ON THE DAIS.

I GUESS IN THE END, WE WON THE RIGHT TO STICK IT TO THE MAYOR WHEN HE HAS A A NOMINATION.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

Y'ALL ARE MY FRIENDS. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS ANYWAY.

THANKS. BYE. OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER, NICK STEVENS.

YOU GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YEAH. NICK STEVENS.

REALLY WEIRD THAT I'M HERE NOT TALKING ABOUT WEED, BUT SARA THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

AND IT IT IT WAS GOOD THAT WE JUST DID A PROCLAMATION FOR THE THEATER GROUP, BECAUSE, PAUL, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP HERE FOR THE POLITICAL THEATER THAT YOU JUST PERFORMED IN FRONT OF EVERYONE RIGHT NOW.

THAT WAS REALLY SAD.

I MEAN, I JUST DON'T GET IT.

I KNOCKED MORE DOORS FOR PAUL IN HIS SECOND ELECTION FOR PLACE SIX THAN I THINK ANY OF HIS VOLUNTEERS DID.

I'VE KNOCKED DOORS FOR YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BYRD.

I CONSIDER COUNCIL MEMBER BECK ONE OF MY REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS.

I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR FIVE YEARS.

I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

AS I UNDERSTAND, CITIZENS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THE DAIS SPECIFICALLY.

CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? YEAH. NO. YOU'RE CORRECT.

I ON THE SIDE OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CORRECT ME WHERE I'M WRONG.

I DON'T THINK THAT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I THINK THEY'RE ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY.

YEAH. SO IF WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'LL JUST EXTEND IT A BIT.

NO, I'M MAKING STRANGE BEDFELLOWS TODAY.

I GUESS MY POINT IS, IS, YOU KNOW WHERE I AM IDEOLOGICALLY DANGEROUS.

DEB IS ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS, AND SHE NOMINATED ME AND ONE OF HER FIERCEST POLITICAL OPPONENTS.

[02:40:02]

SO I'LL LET PEOPLE IN ON A LITTLE SECRET THAT AREN'T WATCHING RIGHT NOW.

PNC ISN'T FOR QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I HAVE 12 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PLANNING AND ZONING, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WE PUT PEOPLE ON THERE THAT HAVE NO PLACE THERE.

I MEAN, AND AGAIN, UNDERSTAND THE IRONY OF THIS, THIS ISN'T REALLY ABOUT WHAT ERIC HAS SAID.

THIS IS ABOUT WHO YOU WANT TO PREP TO RUN FOR COUNCIL NEXT.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT.

AND SO IT'S IT'S JUST IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER, WITH ALL RESPECT, IT'S WEIRD THAT YOU CAN PAY SOMEONE $10,000 WHO IS NOT TO BE CLEAR, LOVE'EM HE'S NOT QUALIFIED WHATSOEVER TO BE ON PLANNING AND ZONING, AND NOW HE IS.

AND THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE WHO LOVE THIS COMMUNITY GET TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY REVOTE ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF PATHETIC.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MCGEE.

I MEAN, SHE LOST BY 80 VOTES.

I IT JUST IT APPEARS KIND OF PETTY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST YOUR OPPONENT TO BE ON A BOARD WHEN SHE WANTS TO SERVE THE COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU WERE ONE OF THE FOUR SPEAKERS THAT VOTED AGAINST IT BUT DIDN'T GIVE ANY EXPLANATION WHY.

AND SO, EVEN IF IT'S JUST FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU DON'T THINK SHE'S QUALIFIED FOR IT, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

AND SO, AGAIN, I'M MAKING STRANGE BEDFELLOWS TODAY BECAUSE MISS GARLAND IS NOT SOMEONE IDEOLOGICALLY I AGREE WITH, I THINK, AT ALL.

BUT THIS IS WEIRD.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL RECONSIDER BECAUSE I THINK TO YOUR POINT, MISTER MAYOR, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIVISION? YEAH. THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

YOU APPOINT SOMEONE AND AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.

SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. ANYWAYS, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. GREG JOHNSON, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, YOU GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. BEFORE MY TIME STARTS, COULD I JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT WHATEVER THAT YOUNG LADY SAID THAT I SAID EARLIER, I DIDN'T SAY, BUT YOU WERE ALL HERE, SO YOU KNOW THAT. SO I READ A LOT OF WINSTON CHURCHILL.

AND ONE THING THAT HE SAID, A QUOTE THAT ALWAYS STICKS WITH ME IS THE ONLY THING REQUIRED FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GREAT MEN TO DO NOTHING.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE MODERN.

THE ONLY THING REQUIRED FOR OUR CITY TO GO DOWN THE DUMPS IS FOR THESE GOOD PEOPLE TO DO NOTHING.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

AND AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE BIGGER.

ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WILLING.

THERE'S NO AISLES HERE.

RIGHT? THERE'S A REASON THESE AREN'T PARTIZAN RACES.

AND AS I WAS SITTING BACK THERE THINKING WHEN THE YOUNG LADY SAID WHATEVER SHE SAID ABOUT ME, YOU KNOW, MY TIME UP THERE, I GREW SO MUCH AS A PERSON BECAUSE I GOT TO LISTEN TO DALTON GREGORY AND KEVIN RHODEN, PEOPLE WITH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES THAN I HAD.

BUT I DECIDED WHEN I CAME INTO THIS ROOM THAT I WAS GOING TO SET MY PERSONAL AGENDA AT THE SIDE, AND I WAS GOING TO SIT IN THAT CHAIR AND DO WHAT I WAS ELECTED TO DO WAS WHAT WAS BEST FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY.

AND SOMETIMES THAT WAS HARD, AND SOMETIMES I HAD TO SWALLOW HARD AND SAY, MAN, I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT EVERYBODY THERE.

I WAS REALLY JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE I HANG OUT WITH.

AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM A PRIVATE PERSON IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS HAPPENING HERE, A LOT OF REALLY GOOD COMPANIES THAT WANT TO BRING THEIR COMPANIES HERE.

THEY WANT TO BRING NEW JOBS TO OUR CITY.

AND SOME OF THEM, I CAN TELL YOU, CALL ME AND THEY SAY, I DON'T HEAR GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE POLITICS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO YOU THINK MY ZONING CASE WILL GET APPROVED? RIGHT. DOES IT MATTER? BUT DADGUMMIT EVERYBODY.

WE MOVE FROM HERE TO OHIO.

WE SOLD OUR BUSINESS.

AND. AND WHEN WE.

AND WHEN THAT DEAL WAS DONE, I HAD TO LIVE THERE FOR TWO YEARS, AND MY WIFE AND I HAD A CHANCE TO START OVER.

AND SHE'S FROM LOUISIANA.

I'M FROM HOUSTON. I SAID, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO? SHE SAID, I WANT TO GO TO DENTON.

I REALLY LOVE IT THERE.

AND WE MADE THE DECISION TO COME BACK HERE, PLANT OUR ROOTS HERE.

TAKE A LOT OF RISK HERE.

A LOT OF FINANCIAL RISK.

BUT BUT WE LOVE IT.

AND AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT IS I CAN BE ON THE SQUARE AND I CAN HAVE A FANTASTIC CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BACKGROUND THAN ME, POLITICAL IDEOLOGY THAN ME, AND NOBODY CARES.

AND THERE'S A FEW OF YOU UP HERE.

I WON'T I WON'T CALL OUT COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE.

WE'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS AND I THINK WE'VE BOTH LEARNED FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

THE PERSON WHO BEAT ME FOR THAT SEAT RIGHT THERE, I CALLED HER AND OFFERED, IF YOU HAVE REAL ESTATE QUESTIONS, CALL ME.

AND SHE CALLED ME AND WE TALKED ABOUT THEM WHEN SHE WOULD GET HER PACKET AND HAD QUESTIONS.

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THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE.

AND THIS PETTY BULLCRAP NEEDS TO STOP, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY TO BE THE BIGGER PERSON TO STEP ACROSS AND SAY, FOR WHATEVER I'VE DONE TO YOU, I'M SORRY, PLEASE FORGIVE ME, AND VICE VERSA.

AND LET'S GET ON WITH DOING THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND LAST SPEAKER, DONNA SMITH.

SO WHEN I SPOKE EARLIER, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WAS BEING PULLED TO TALK ABOUT NOW.

SO I, I AGREE SO FAR WITH ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SPOKEN.

I MEAN, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NONPARTISAN RACES.

EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO BE NONPARTISAN.

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.

WE ALL SEE THAT.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF A JOKE AT THIS POINT THAT WE WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NONPARTISAN BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID FIND OUT, THOUGH, THROUGH THE ELECTION, I DID SPEND SOME TIME WITH MISS GARLAND AND SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE THAT I WAS HOPING TO GET ELECTED IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT PLACES, AND DID HAND OUT QUITE A FEW OF, OF YOUR MATERIALS, MISS CHESTER.

AND SO I WANT TO SAY, SHE REALLY IS A PERSON OF INTEGRITY, I APPRECIATE HER.

WE'VE HAD SOME AMAZING CONVERSATIONS.

SHE'S A VERY SPIRITED PERSON.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT SHE THINKS, SHE'LL TELL YOU.

AND NOT EVERYBODY WILL DO THAT.

SOME PEOPLE WILL GIVE YOU A VERSION OF WHAT THEY THINK YOU WANT TO HEAR, SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU'LL LIKE THEM AND SHE'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I THINK SHE WOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE VALUABLE IN GIVING HER OPINION ON VARIOUS THINGS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

I THINK SHE'D DO A GOOD JOB.

I DO THINK THAT IT IS A LITTLE BIT PETTY THAT SHE'S NOT THAT THAT I'M HERE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I HONESTLY THOUGHT BEFORE, WHEN I SPOKE IN THE OPEN FORUM THAT WE WERE I WAS JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS GREAT.

THIS IS A NEW BEGINNING.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN NEW PEOPLE INTO THESE DIFFERENT PLACES.

I REALLY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS HAD BEEN PULLED OUT AND WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW, SO.

HAVING SAID THAT, SHE IS A PERSON THAT I THINK WOULD DO A GOOD JOB AND I'M JUST A LADY WHO VOTES, BUT I AM A LADY WHO COMES DOWN HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES A MONTH BECAUSE I LOVE MY TOWN.

AND IT MATTERS TO ME WHO'S IN THE VARIOUS PLACES.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF MISS GARLAND WERE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S THAT'S ALL THE CARDS WE HAVE.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX.

CHESTER, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN, OR IS THAT YOU JUST GOT TO PUSH THE REMOVE IT.

IF IF THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, IF I CAN, I'LL SPEAK AGAIN.

SURE. YEAH.

YOU'RE IN QUEUE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I AM FLABBERGASTED THAT SOMEONE WHO IS QUALIFIED, WHO IT SEEMS APPARENTLY FOR POLITICAL REASONS, IS NOT BEING APPOINTED, AND I JUST I DON'T KNOW.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM I'D LIKE TO HEAR EVERYONE'S INPUT IF YOU FEEL SO MOVED.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD I WOULD ASK THE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THE PREVIOUS VOTE FOR P AND Z.

I MAKE THAT AS A MOTION.

MR.. MR..

CITY ATTORNEY, HELP ME OUT.

IN ORDER TO MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, YOU HAD TO BE ON THE SIDE.

THAT WAS THE MAJORITY ON THE PRIOR VOTE.

SO IF COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND WAS NOT ON THE MAJORITY, YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

SO, SO WORDS MATTER.

AND I WEIGHED THIS.

I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I HONESTLY, YOU KNOW.

THAT IF AS A POLITICAL MOVE, THIS IS THIS IS NOT WHAT I CAN SEE.

PAST POLITICAL APPOINTEES.

I CAN SEE PAST, YOU KNOW, THAT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE DIFFERING LEVELS OF EXPERTISE.

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SO, SO THAT I FELT LIKE RUNNING.

SO WHEN, WHEN I HEAR THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID IT, IT GIVES ME GREAT PAUSE WHETHER SOMEONE ACTUALLY GETS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE DENTON.

AND AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BOARD AND COMMISSION COUNCILOR JESTER ASKED YOU KNOW, WHY? WHY DID I VOTE THE WAY I DID? I'M HAPPY. I'M 100% TRANSPARENT, COMPLETELY WILLING TO SAY WHY.

AND THAT IS IF IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY DENTON IS.

ALL RIGHT, THEN THEN PERHAPS DEVELOPING OR SETTING THE RULES FOR DEVELOPMENT IS THE WRONG BOARD FOR YOU TO BE ON.

SO THAT THAT WAS MY RATIONALE.

ALL RIGHT. WELL.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS.

THAT. THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

I DON'T I MADE THE NOMINATION.

I DIDN'T SEE THE PREREQUISITE THAT YOU HAD TO NEVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT DENTON.

I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT.

AND FULL DISCLOSURE.

THE WILLIE HUDSPETH IN ME IS GOING TO BUBBLE TO THE TOP.

AND SO HERE'S THE DEAL.

DO WHAT THE FOUR CAN DO, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

HERE'S WHAT I CAN DO.

THIS IS MY NOMINATION.

UNTIL THE END OF TIME.

OR 2026, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

SO P AND Z WILL RUN WITH SIX PEOPLE AND THEY'LL BE GRIDLOCKED.

AND EVERY WEEK WE'LL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

SO COME BACK.

STAY TUNED. TALK TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND WE'LL SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO OUTSIDE OF THIS TO TO BREAK UP THIS.

THIS, THIS GROUP SO THAT I'LL TALK TO MY FOLKS ABOUT THAT.

I GOT THAT BALL ROLLING JUST IN CASE BECAUSE I SAW THIS COMING.

AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW THE FOUR PEOPLE AGREE ON SOMETHING WHEN FOUR PEOPLE DIDN'T TALK DURING THIS MEETING, ME TOO.

SO IT'S AMAZING HOW THAT WORKS OUT.

WE'RE BACK AT IT.

WHERE? AT PNC, THERE'S A NOMINATION ERIC IN GARLAND.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T.

IT JUST GETS VOTED DOWN.

YEAH. SO WE'LL REVISIT.

OKAY, GREAT. OKAY.

PERFECT. THEN.

YEAH. THEN, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I TOLD YOU I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL TOMORROW.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO HAVE A REOCCURRING NOMINATION SO THAT WE'LL HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN JULY.

AND GOING FORWARD, I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF I NEED TO EMAIL YOU EVERY WEEK.

SHE'S ALREADY BEEN VETTED, SO THAT'S GOOD.

AND FOR THE RECORD JUST SO WE HAVE A CLEAN RECORD.

CITY OF DENTON WIDE.

IN MY MATH CLASS, THEY TOLD ME IF IT'S MORE THAN FIVE, YOU ROUND UP.

OKAY, SO SHE GOT 49.62% OF THE VOTES CITYWIDE IN HER FIRST ELECTION.

THAT MEANS SHE GOT 50% OF THE VOTE.

SO HALF OF THE VOTERS IN DENTON THOUGHT SHE'S MORE THAN QUALIFIED TO SIT HERE, LET ALONE IN A BOARD THAT RECOMMENDS TO HEAR 50%.

AND I ALSO THAT SAME MATH CLASS.

AGAIN, POINT FIVE IS THE NUMBER THE OTHER PERSON IN THAT RACE, THE DISTRICT FIVE REPRESENTATIVE, GOT 50.38.

YOU ROUND THAT DOWN, THAT'S 50%.

AND THAT SEAT VOTED NO.

SO DO WITH THAT WHAT YOU WILL.

AND THEN, FOR THOSE THAT ARE WONDERING, NO UNSOLICITED.

THE LAST RACE FOR THE DISTRICT SIX SEAT NO.

CHECK THAT THAT JUST HAPPENED.

DISTRICT THREE SEAT.

FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS GOT 1147 VOTES.

FORMER CANDIDATE PAUL MELTZER GOT 1840 VOTES.

FORMER CANDIDATE DILLENBURG GOT 63 VOTES.

THAT TOTALS ROUND NUMBER 3050 VOTES.

IF YOU'RE WONDERING TO RECALL SOMEBODY, YOU NEED 25% OF THAT TOTAL NUMBER.

THAT NUMBER IS 763 VOTES, WHICH IS ABOUT 300 LESS THAN WHAT JESSE GOT.

SO IF YOU JUST GOT JESSE'S FRIENDS TO SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER, THAT'S HOW YOU COULD TRIGGER THAT.

NEXT. NEXT SEAT IS PARKS AND RECREATION BEAUTIFICATION BOARD, AND IT'S I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS.

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LICHTENBERG. THAT'S.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT TWO.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

LET'S THROW IT ON THE SCREEN. HMM'HMM.

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.

NUMBER ONE BOARD, IT'S TAYLOR BRAKEFIELD.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO.

MOVE! APPROVAL! REPRESENTATIVE.

DISTRICT ONE. I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THAT TAKES US TO ITEM E.

[E. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton amending Article III “Boards, Commissions and Committees” Division 3, “Rules and Procedures” Section 2.85 Appointment, Nomination and Filling Vacancies on Boards and Commission, providing for codification; severability and an effective date.]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON AMENDING ARTICLE THREE.

BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. COMMITTEES.

DIVISION THREE RULE AND PROCEDURES.

I PULLED THIS FOR A SEPARATE VOTE, AND I'LL JUST SAY IT LACKS SPECIFICITY.

AND SO THE IT'S CONFUSION AND SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS AND YOU HAVE TO PARSE THROUGH IT.

BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES.

BUT ONE I'LL GIVE YOU IS IT SAYS IF THERE'S A VACANCY FOR MORE THAN 90 DAYS THEN OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN APPOINT A PERSON FOR THAT. BUT YOU CAN ONLY APPOINT ONE PERSON TO FILL THAT.

BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IS IT MIDNIGHT THE NEXT DAY? IS IT 8 A.M. THE NEXT DAY? IS IT 12 P.M.

THE NIGHT BEFORE? IT JUST DOESN'T GIVE ANY SPECIFICITY.

AND SO IT DOESN'T ADD HOW YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

SO IT'S JUST IT'S NOT FULLY BAKED.

SO I CAN'T GET BEHIND IT.

AND I WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF IT WHEN THEY FOR I CAN.

YOU KNOW, I JUST NEED TO HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT I'M VOTING FOR AND I DON'T HAVE IT.

SO THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT TWO.

I MOVE APPROVAL AS WRITTEN.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR.

I BEG YOUR PARDON.

I BEG YOUR PARDON. ARE YOU ARE YOU MOVING THE APPROVAL AS WRITTEN? IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? YES.

I BEG YOUR PARDON. I'M WITHDRAWING MY SECOND.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SO YOU HAVE TO REMOVE HOLLAND SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN.

NO, NO, HOLLAND IS IS NO LONGER SEXTING.

SO IF YOU CAN REMOVE THAT, THEN SOMEONE ELSE CAN.

SO BACK AS THE MOTIONER.

YES. THERE YOU GO.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE.

SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

AS SHOWN ON SCREEN. THAT FAILS FOR THREE.

THAT TAKES US TO OUR WORKS.

NO, NOT WORK SESSION, BUT OUR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

THERE YOU GO. AND THE FIRST ITEM OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS ITEM A240001.

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas regarding a Municipal Services Agreement, pursuant to Tex. Loc. Gov’t Code Sec. 43.0672, between the City of Denton and Dentex Land, Cattle and Energy, LP for the provision of city services to approximately 92.382 acres of land, generally located north of Johnson Lane, south of Allred Road and 2,325 feet east of John Paine Road; approving a schedule of annexation; authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement; and providing an effective date. (A24-0001, Dentex Annexation, Angie Manglaris)]

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

ANGIE VIEW.

MANAGER. THIS IS ITEM A 24 0001.

THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE ITEMS THAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, RELATED TO THE ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 92 ACRES OF LAND.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF A MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 92.3 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF JOHNSON LANE, SOUTH OF ALLRED ROAD, AND 2300FT EAST OF JOHN PAYNE ROAD INTO THE CITY OF DENTON.

ALONG WITH THIS AGREEMENT, YOU WOULD ALSO BE APPROVING THE SCHEDULE FOR ANNEXATION.

A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON THIS REQUEST.

THIS 92 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IS OWNED BY DENTEX LAND AND CATTLE LAND, CATTLE AND ENERGY LP.

THEY ARE PROPOSING THE EVENTUAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON APPROXIMATELY 65 ACRES OF LAND, ALONG WITH SOME HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND OR

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THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, WHICH DOES MEAN THAT PLATTING IS THE TRIGGERING MECHANISM FOR ANNEXATION.

SIMILAR TO THE NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS YOUR YOU SEE REGULARLY, BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE STRICT.

IT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ALONG WITH SOME BARN AND AGRICULTURAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE USED AS A WEDDING VENUE.

MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT IS REVIEWED BY ALL DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, SAYING THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE SERVICES TO THEM UPON ANNEXATION.

IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BOTH BY CITY STAFF AND BY THE APPLICANT.

AND THIS IS THE ANNEXATION SCHEDULE.

TODAY YOU ARE CONSIDERING THREE ITEMS, THIS BEING THE ONLY ITEM THAT REQUIRES ACTION.

SO WE ARE ON THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.

FOLLOWING THAT WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ITEM.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THE FIRST READING OF THE ANNEXATION INTO THE RECORD.

AFTER THAT, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUBLISH THE ENTIRE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE IN THE DENTON RECORD-CHRONICLE, WHICH WILL OCCUR THIS WEEKEND.

THAT ORDINANCE MAY NOT BE ACTED ON FOR 30 DAYS SINCE PUBLICATION, SO THE NEXT MEETING IT COULD BE CONSIDERED ON WOULD BE JULY 16TH, WHERE THE SECOND READING AND ACTION WOULD OCCUR. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

SEEING NONE.

THIS IS WE'RE TAKING ACTION TONIGHT ON THIS ONE.

THIS ONE REQUIRES ACTION.

YES, SIR. YES. MAKING SURE.

OKAY IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT TWO.

I MOVE APPROVAL IS WRITTEN.

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE.

I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, renaming the section of S. Mayhill Road between the western terminus of existing Edwards Road and the new S. Mayhill Road, approximately 1,000 linear feet north of Leafy Road, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; providing for severability and an effective date. (SRN24-0001a, Street Renaming, Erin Stanley)]

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS.

RENAMING THE SECTION OF SOUTH MAYHILL ROAD BETWEEN THE WESTERN TERMINUS OF EXISTING EDWARDS ROAD AND THE NEW SOUTH MAYHILL ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1000 LINEAR FEET NORTH OF LEAFY ROAD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AARON STANLEY, ASSISTANT PLANNER.

THIS IS THE REQUEST TO RENAME A PORTION OF SOUTH MAYHILL ROAD BETWEEN THE EXISTING EDWARDS ROAD AND SOUTH MAYHILL ROAD, SO MORE GENERALLY, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF TOWN, NORTH OF I 35 E AND THE MEDICAL CITY DENTON BUILDING AND SOUTH OF THE CITY LANDFILL.

THIS REQUEST IS COMING WITH THE CITY PROJECT TO REALIGN AND RELOCATE THE EXISTING SOUTH MAYHILL ROAD.

AS YOU SEE HERE IN BLUE TO THE FUTURE MAYHILL ROAD IN THE DASHED RED.

AND RECONSTRUCT THE EXISTING TWO LANE UNDIVIDED ROADWAY TO A MORE STREAMLINED, DIVIDED, FOUR LANE ARTERIAL ROAD. SO THE EXISTING SOUTH MAYHILL ROAD BETWEEN EDWARDS AND THE NEW SOUTH MAYHILL IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE RENAMED TO EDWARDS ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE THE CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE SEE TO THE SOUTH.

SO THERE ARE A COUPLE CRITERIA IN THE ORDINANCE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR STREET RENAMINGS.

THIS MEETS THE FIRST ONE TO ESTABLISH CONTINUITY OF A STREET NAME.

IT ALSO MEETS THE SECOND CRITERIA FOR ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS TO REQUEST THE RENAMING.

BEING AN OFFICER OF A GOVERNMENTAL DEPARTMENT.

SO STAFF CONSIDERED THAT EDWARDS ROAD IS A LOGICAL CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING EDWARDS ROAD, WHICH YOU SEE PERPENDICULAR HERE AS IT CURVES UP AND WOULD BE A LOGICAL CONTINUATION.

IT ALSO ELIMINATES CONFUSION THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING TWO SOUTH MAY HILL ROADS, AND THE REQUEST WAS MADE BY TRACY BECK IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, MEETING THE REQUIREMENT TO BE A GOVERNMENTAL DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE.

STAFF CONDUCTED PUBLIC OUTREACH, ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE.

WE POSTED THE NOTICE FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON THE WEBSITE ON APRIL 2ND AND MAILED THE NOTICES TO THE ADJACENT OWNERS 30 DAYS AND 60 DAYS BEFORE THIS HEARING, AND WE RECEIVED OR THE APPLICANT PUBLIC WORKS OR CAPITAL PROJECTS RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL JUST WITH GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT NO RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION OR IN DENIAL.

AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AS IT MEETS ALL OF THE CRITERIA IN THE STREET RENAMING ORDINANCE.

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OKAY. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SPEAK AND THEN JUST FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT.

I'LL ASK, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX.

COUNCILPERSON JESTER.

SO MOVES APPROVAL.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY. AND THEN REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE WE VOTE, I'M GOING TO COME DOWN TO A SECOND HERE.

OH, YES.

MY ELBOW. YES.

YOU HAVE. THIS IS A.

THIS IS WHAT KEEPS ME CALM UP THERE.

BUT THAT'S NOT YOURS. HERE WE GO.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION.

YOU DID GREAT. YES.

YEAH. AND IT'S A SUCH A CRITICAL PROJECT THEY TRUSTED YOU WITH, SO YOU MUST BE FANTASTIC.

YEAH. THIS IS. WE'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME FOR THIS.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL THANK YOU ONCE THIS IS UP AND RUNNING.

SO THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE YOU.

YEAH. IT'S GOOD. OH, GOTTA GET UP.

WE GOTTA GET A PHOTO OFF YOU. HERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S NOT YES I WOULD.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND, NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

TAKES US TO OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS ONE WON'T NEED A DOESN'T REQUIRE ACTION AT THIS TIME.

[B. Hold a public hearing and consider a petition for voluntary annexation of approximately 92.382 acres of land, generally located north of Johnson Lane, south of Allred Road and 2,325 feet east of John Paine Road. (A24-0001a, Dentex Annexation, Angie Manglaris)]

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A PETITION FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 92.382 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF JOHNSON LANE, SOUTH OF ALLRED ROAD, AND 2325FT EAST OF JOHN PAYNE ROAD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ANGIE MANGLARES, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER, HERE TO PRESENT A 24 0001A THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION FOR THE ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 92.3 ACRES OF LAND THAT IS GENERALLY LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF JOHNSON LANE, SOUTH OF ALL ROAD THOUSAND 300 JOHN PAYNE ROAD.

JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON THIS REQUEST, THE EXISTING AND SURROUNDING ZONING DOES HAVE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY.

IT IS PART OF THE HUNTER RANCH PROJECT TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST.

THE SUBBASES TO THAT ARE MR. AND NW TO THE SOUTH THERE'S SOME EXISTING R-6 AND THEN OVER TO THE EAST THERE IS A PD FOR THE SAGE BROOK DEVELOPMENT.

THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IS RURAL AREAS.

AS A REMINDER, WHERE WE ARE IN THE ANNEXATION SCHEDULE, THIS IS THE SECOND STEP.

AND THIS IS CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REQUIRED OR FOR THE ANNEXATION.

AND IT IS REQUIRED.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AGAIN.

YOU CAN, IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK, CAN COME DOWN AND FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT THEN.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING. NO QUESTIONS.

YOU COME DOWN TO SPEAK ON THIS ON THIS ITEM? YES. SO IT HAS A RELATE TO THE ANNEXATION ON THAT.

OH. YES.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY NAME IS CHARLES LEE.

I'M ON ALL PLATFORMS. AND ON THIS SUBJECT OF ANNEXATION, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M AGAINST ALL ANNEXATION BECAUSE I'M ON GENERAL PRINCIPLE.

BECAUSE I'M LIKE A SMALL TOWN GUY.

AND I THINK THE CITY OF DENTON IS ACTUALLY GETTING TOO BIG.

AND A LOT OF THESE AREAS ON THE, ON THE EDGES OF THESE CITIES, THEY NEED TO BECOME THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR OWN CITY COUNCILS.

SO BECAUSE IT'S GETTING TOO BIG AND YOU GUYS ARE MICROMANAGING EVERYTHING, AND THE THE AVERAGE JOE IS HAVING LESS OF A LESS OF A VOICE.

AND I BELIEVE IN SMALL TOWN AMERICA AND SMALL TOWNS WITH CITY BOARDS THAT ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE PEOPLE.

THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND SOMEBODY OKAY.

AND ANY ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SEEING NONE. SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE'S NO ACTION.

SO THAT TAKES US TO NEEDED.

SO THAT TAKES US TO ITEM SIX C WHICH IS Z240003A.

[C. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Suburban Corridor (SC) district to Residential 6 (R6) district on approximately 1.52 acres of land generally located 266.11 feet east of Country Club Road and located north of Hobson Lane in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [5-0] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval was made by Commissioner Villarreal and seconded by Commissioner Cole. (Z24-0003a, Vandesmith Tract Rezoning, Bryce Van Arsdale)]

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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BRYCE VANARSDALE, ASSISTANT PLANNER.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.52 ACRES FROM SUBURBAN CORRIDOR TO RESIDENTIAL SIX.

THE PROPERTY IS EXISTING AS UNDEVELOPED PASTURE LAND.

IT IS LOCATED EAST OF FORT WORTH IN COUNTRY CLUB DRIVES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOBSON LANE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS LOW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALIGN THE ZONING WITH THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND EAST, UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP WITH R-6 ZONING.

THIS REQUEST DOES SATISFY OUR CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL, AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL SIX ZONING DISTRICT PURPOSE STATEMENT.

THIS ZONING IS NOT EXPECTED TO GENERATE ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL, FISCAL, OR INFRASTRUCTURAL IMPACTS.

THIS NOTE OR THIS PROJECT WAS NOTICED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, AND STAFF MAILED OUT 27 NOTICES TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE DID RECEIVE SEVEN RESPONSES IN FAVOR AND NONE IN OPPOSITION OR AS NEUTRAL.

THE APPLICANT DID NOT COMPLETE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, BUT DID REACH OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS INDIVIDUALLY.

AS THIS, AS THIS REQUEST DOES MEET THE CRITERIA THAT IN THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

IN ADDITION, ON APRIL 24TH OF THIS YEAR, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL 5 TO 0.

I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

WE HAVE ONE CARD WITH THE APPLICANT.

DO YOU. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? JUST STAND FOR QUESTIONS IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD CARE TO SPEAK AND FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT, YOU CAN SO I'LL LEAVE THAT OPEN, AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE. THANK YOU.

WHAT WHAT IS THE THE INTENTION OF CHANGING THE ZONING SO IT'LL BRING INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST, WHICH WILL BE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY. AND THERE'S AND THERE'S NO THERE'S NO CHANGE ON THE HORIZON.

NO. NO PLAN ON THE HORIZON ON THIS.

THERE IS A PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

OKAY. DISTRICT FIVE REPRESENTATIVE.

JUST WANT TO NOTE, WHAT I FOUND INTERESTING IS THAT I BELIEVE YOU MAILED OUT 26 NOTICES.

27? YES, SIR. AND SIX AND SEVEN WERE IN FAVOR.

YES, SIR. WOW.

I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN A RESPONSE RATE THAT HIGH WHEN NOTICES HAVE BEEN MAILED OUT IN THE CASE OF REZONING, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING IN NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT FOUR.

SECOND, THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

BEFORE WE VOTE, THOUGH, WE'LL HEAD DOWN.

MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT. SO THIS THIS JOB IS HARD TO.

I HAVE A HARD HAT. THIS IS WHAT KEEPS ME GOING.

BUT HERE YOU GO.

SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT ELEPHANT AS A RECOGNIZING THE FIRST TIME YOU PRESENTED TO US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME ABOARD.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH US? ABOUT A YEAR.

OKAY. OUTSTANDING.

YEAH. SMOOTH.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

GOOD, GOOD. I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THE TIME.

THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. IT'S FANTASTIC.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET THIS PICTURE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, LET'S LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ITEM

[D. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas regarding a request for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for an Equipment Sales and Rental use on approximately 10 acres of land, generally located on the south side of US 380, approximately 3,800 feet west of Masch Branch Road in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s Official Zoning Map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing for severability; and establishing an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [5-0] to recommend approval. Motion for approval by Commissioner Pruett and second by Commissioner Cole. (S24-0001a, RDO Equipment, Ashley Ekstedt)]

PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR AN EQUIPMENT SALES AND RENTAL USE.

APPROXIMATELY TEN ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF US 380.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ASHLEY ECKSTEIN, ASSOCIATE PLANNER.

THIS IS S 20 41A ARDO EQUIPMENT.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN EQUIPMENT SALES AND RENTAL USE.

[03:15:05]

AND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING FOR EQUIPMENT SALES AND RENTAL.

THIS PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF US 380, WEST OF MARSH BRANCH ROAD.

ON THE MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL COMMERCE. THE SITE PLAN IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

THEY ARE PROPOSING A 28,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WHICH IS CIRCLED IN BLUE.

13,000FT² WILL INCLUDE RETAIL, SHOWROOM, PRODUCT DISPLAYS, PARTS COUNTER AND SALES OFFICE, AND THE REMAINING 15,000FT² WILL BE ACCESSORY, WAREHOUSING AND SERVICE AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. THEY'LL ALSO INCLUDE 35 VEHICULAR PARKING SPACES, WHICH ARE TO THE FRONT AND SIDES OF THE BUILDING.

THEY'LL HAVE AN EQUIPMENT DISPLAY AREA ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN, CIRCLED IN RED, AND EQUIPMENT STORAGE WILL BE TO THE SIDE AND REAR OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT WILL BE SCREENED BY A SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE AND THAT IS CIRCLED ON THE PLAN IN GREEN.

THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEY'RE PROPOSING 22% LANDSCAPING LANDSCAPE AREA AND 20% TREE CANOPY COVER.

THEY DID APPLY FOR AN ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE PLAN DUE TO THE EXISTING EASEMENTS ON THE SITE, WHICH ARE OUTLINED ON THE PLAN IN RED.

THEY'RE ALSO ON A TXDOT FRONTAGE, AND TXDOT DOES NOT PERMIT STREET TREES IN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THEY'RE ALTERNATIVELY LOCATED.

STREET TREES ARE CIRCLED ON THE PLAN IN GREEN.

THEY WERE ALSO REQUIRED TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH THE INDUSTRIAL USE TO THE WEST, WHICH IS A GAS WELL, AND DUE TO THE EASEMENTS THAT HAS BEEN RELOCATED TO THEIR EAST PROPERTY LINE, IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT PURPOSE STATEMENT, AND IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO GENERATE SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL, INFRASTRUCTURE OR FISCAL IMPACTS.

PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS DONE AND NOTICES WERE MAILED TO EVERYONE WITHIN 500FT.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

MANY OF THESE ARE TYPICAL S&P CONDITIONS, SO I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE TO YOU.

I WILL READ SOME THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT.

THEY DO NEED AN ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THEIR CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS FOR ALL ENCROACHMENTS INTO THE EASEMENTS ON THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT IS FENCING, SHRUBBERY AND UTILITY CROSSINGS.

ALL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TXDOT ROADWAY ARE REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED BY TXDOT.

STAFF CAN APPROVE RELOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY, PARKING SPACES, MEDIAN OPENINGS, AND TURN LANES.

ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE SITE ACCESS WOULD REQUIRE SP AMENDMENT.

LASTLY, CONSTRUCTION OF THE PAVEMENT IN THE CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT IS REQUIRED WHEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE EAST DEVELOPS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT WANT YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY, SO IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, YOU'LL HAVE TEN, TEN MINUTES.

AMY BESSETTE, 109 NORTH ELM DENTON 76201.

I BROUGHT A FEW SLIDES, BUT I DON'T INTEND TO SHARE THEM UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO.

I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD A LONG DAY, SO.

OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. HANG CLOSE.

WE'LL SEE. AND THEN IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S OPEN ANY ANYONE CAN SPEAK ON IT IF YOU CARE TO.

SEEING. NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS OR CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR MOVED TO APPROVE THIS THIS ITEM.

REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT SIX, SECOND.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S THROW IT ON SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

THAT'S AN EXCITING PART OF TOWN.

AND IT'S THE THE IT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF 380 THAT'S FULLY DEVELOPED ARE READY FOR THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE.

WE WE'LL NEVER CATCH UP.

BUT THAT SIDE IS REALLY GOOD.

SO THAT'S SMART. SMART LOCATION.

OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST TWO ITEMS. ITEMS. AND THERE'S TWO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

FIRST IS 7AA240001 BE CONDUCT A FIRST OF TWO READINGS OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS,

[A. Conduct the first of two readings of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, annexing approximately 92.382 acres of land, generally located north of Johnson Lane, south of Allred Road and 2,325 feet east of John Paine Road to the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; providing for a correction to the City map to include the annexed land; and providing for a savings clause and an effective date. (A24-0001b, Dentex Annexation, Angie Manglaris)]

AND THIS IS THE SAME LAND WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

YES. YEAH. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ANGIE MANGLARES, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER.

THIS IS ANNEXATION A 24 0001B.

THIS IS THE THIRD AND FINAL TIME WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM TODAY.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO CONDUCT THE FIRST OF TWO READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO ANNEX APPROXIMATELY 92.382 ACRES OF LAND INTO THE CITY.

[03:20:05]

WE'VE GONE OVER THE BACKGROUND.

I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON IT HERE.

THIS IS THE THIRD STEP THAT WE WILL BE COVERING TODAY.

FOLLOWING THIS STEP, THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE DENTON RECORD-CHRONICLE.

AND SO I WILL SIMPLY JUST READ THE THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 92.382 ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF JOHNSON LANE, SOUTH OF ALLRED ROAD, AND 2325FT EAST OF JOHN PAYNE ROAD TO THE CITY OF DENTON, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS, PROVIDING FOR A CONNECTION TO THE CITY MAP TO INCLUDE THE ANNEXED LAND AND PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. THEY HAVE TWO CARDS.

MR. WILLIE HUDSPETH, YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'M WILLIE HUDSPETH, 23, NEWTON.

I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE THE.

THE. ANNEXATION.

I WANT TO DO THAT LAST.

BUT FIRST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL.

THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH YOU.

ALL THAT I DON'T THINK IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY OF DENTON.

MR. JOHNSON STILL HERE? GREG, ARE YOU HERE? HE LEFT.

I WANTED HIM TO TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL WHEN HE WAS ON THE COUNCIL, AND.

AND THE COUNCIL WAS DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.

WE. WE DON'T HAVE TIME AND WE DON'T.

WHAT? WHATEVER'S GOING ON WITH YOU TO CONTINUE, WE'RE GOING TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF IT, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO PUT POLITICS ASIDE, PERSONAL VENDETTAS ASIDE, OR ANY OTHER STUFF THAT THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING HAVE THAT HAVE NOTHING WITH GOVERNING.

THIS CITY.

SO I'M HOPING YOU GET THAT FIXED.

SO YOU WOULD, MR. JOHNSON. WHEN HE WAS HERE, THEY DIDN'T GET IT FIXED.

SO THERE WAS AN UPRISING WHEN THAT HAPPENED.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN IF YOU DON'T GET WHATEVER'S HAPPENING FIXED WITH WHATEVER'S GOING ON WITH YOU.

I WAS SADDENED BY WHAT THOSE PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY CAME IN ABOUT THE WAR AND THE KIDS DYING AND FRIENDS DYING AND FAMILY MEMBERS DYING.

AND I'M JUST SAD BECAUSE OF ALL OF THAT.

AND HERE WE ARE, BICKERING AMONG OURSELVES, AMONG YOURSELVES, ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNING THIS CITY.

SO I THOUGHT I'D DO SOMETHING TO MAKE ME HAPPY.

AND MAYBE IT'LL HELP YOU.

MAKE YOU HAPPY TOO.

I WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING FOR YOU.

AND IN MY TIME.

WHAT? YES, IT'S DOWN TO HIM.

YES, I'LL PUT ZONING ON THE FRONT OF IT.

BUT IT'S ABOUT YOU.

SO. YES, IT'S ZONING.

YEAH. 40S. IT'S 40S.

WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY ENOUGH TIME.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD.

ARE.

IT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE.

SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL HELP YOU FIGURE IT OUT.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO.

THAT'S IT. I'LL SEND IT TO HIM.

MILLIONS IPHONE THAT CONNECTED TO LILY'S IPHONE.

HE SAID, THAT'S MY TIME.

YES. SO WE'LL GET WHAT WE CAN DO IS WORK TO GET IT EMAILED IN EARLIER SO THEY CAN JUST PLAY IT.

YOU CAN JUST YOU CAN SAY, HIT IT, DJ AND THEY'LL DO THAT.

SO WE'LL WORK ON IT OKAY.

YEAH. NO MORE SUNDAY DINNERS FOR YOU.

YEAH I'M SORRY. IT WAS IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED.

I. MISSED YOU WHILE YOU HADN'T BEEN HERE.

I MISSED YOU A LOT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

CHARLES LEE, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

[03:25:07]

JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

YES, I'M FROM NEW JERSEY, AND AND I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT, LIKE, NORTH NEW JERSEY IS A DENSELY POPULATED AREA, BUT WE HAD SMALL TOWNS.

EACH TOWN HAD THEIR OWN LITTLE MUNICIPAL BOROUGH, HAD THEIR OWN SCHOOL BOARDS, HAD EVERYTHING.

EVERYTHING WAS KIND OF SEPARATED.

AND IT'S MORE MANAGEABLE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING HERE.

YOU GOT THIS, THIS BOARD.

EVERYTHING'S CENTRALIZED HERE.

AND NOW THIS IS THE BIGGEST.

ACTUALLY, FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS THE BIGGEST CITY I EVER LIVED IN.

AND WHEN YOU GOT, WHAT, 100.

HOW MANY? 100,000, 152.

150. GROWING TO 200,000, 300,000.

AND YOU JUST HAVE A SMALL BOARD LIKE THIS, IT'S BOUND TO BECOME A BLOOD SPORT.

AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT DIVERSE OPINIONS, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO WANT TO SEE IT THEIR WAY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BLOOD SPORT FOR THIS BOARD. SO I HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT YOU STOP THIS ANNEXATION AND YOU START BREAKING THINGS DOWN INTO SEVERAL SUB COMMUNITIES SO PEOPLE CAN RUN THINGS HOW THEY SEE FIT.

BECAUSE YOU KEEP DOING THIS, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A FIGHT.

HAVE A NICE DAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

OH, THERE'S NO ACTION ON THIS ONE.

OH. OH.

WELL, I SHOULD HAVE WROTE THAT DOWN EARLY.

MY BAD. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM.

ITEM BHL240001A.

[B. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton, approving an application for a partial tax exemption of designated historic sites, in accordance with Chapter 10, Article VI, Sections 10-126 through 10-129 of the Denton Municipal Code of Ordinances, for a Local Historic Landmark, located at 903 W Oak Street, located on the south side of W Oak Street between Fulton Street and Mounts Avenue; providing for severability; and providing an effective date. The Historic Landmark Commission recommends a favorable determination (4-0). (HL24-0001a, 903 W Oak Street - Tax Exemption, Cameron Robertson)]

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CAMERON ROBERTSON, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS AT 903 WEST OAK STREET IN THE OAK HICKORY HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT IS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AS WELL.

BUILT CIRCA 1900.

TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS FOR A PARTIAL TAX TAX EXEMPTION OF DESIGNATED HISTORIC SITES.

THE PROPERTY OWNER SPENT APPROXIMATELY $20,000 IN IMPROVEMENTS AND OR RESTORATION TO THE PROPERTY.

WHICH MEETS THAT MINIMUM OF $10,000.

SO JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOS OF WORK THAT WAS COMPLETED, A NEW SUB PUMP WAS PART OF THE WORK.

BRINGING BACK THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC CROWN MOLDING.

AS WELL AS INTERIOR DOORWAY AND ARCHITECTURAL DETAILING.

SO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION DID MAKE A FAVORABLE DETERMINATION THAT THE EXPENSES PRESENTED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CREATION OF A NEW STORAGE SPACE IN THE TRASH HALL, RESULTED IN A PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT AND OR RESTORATION TO THE PROPERTY.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION FOR THE PARTIAL TAX EXEMPTION, AS IT DOES STILL MEET THAT MINIMUM OF $10,000 OR MORE REQUIREMENTS STATED IN THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND I CAN STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

HE'S HAVING SCREEN PROBLEMS, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR.

IS THIS. THANK YOU.

IS THIS THE PROPERTY THAT WE USED TO CALL THE EVERS MANSION? NO, THIS IS THE G H BLEWITT HOUSE.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EVERS FAMILY.

BEG YOUR PARDON? THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT THREE.

THANK YOU. SOUNDS LIKE. SOUNDS LIKE A VERY STRONG APPLICATION.

AND ALSO, THANK YOU, OFFICER ROBERTSON, FOR COMING AND SPEAKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LAST NIGHT IN YOUR EVENING HOURS TO HELP INFORM THEM ABOUT HISTORICAL DISTRICTS AND AND PRESERVATION.

I MOVE APPROVAL DISTRICT ONE.

I'LL SUCK IT. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S THROW IT ON THE SCREEN.

THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US CONCLUDING ITEMS.

[8. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX.

COUNCILPERSON JESTER. AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONE NOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND THE STAFF.

THE BACKUP MATERIALS THAT WE RECEIVE ARE INCREDIBLY THOROUGH.

[03:30:04]

THEY ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WHERE IT STICKS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THEY ANSWER SO MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HAVE TO ASK.

AND WHEN I DID HAVE QUESTIONS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY EXPERIENCE WAS A PLUS.

PLUS, AS FAR AS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY ON BEHALF OF ON BEHALF OF US AND THE PUBLIC JUST REALLY, REALLY WELL DONE.

REALLY WELL DONE.

AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE ALL THE WORK THAT'S PUT IN.

BUT THE VISUALS AS WELL AS THE COMPARABLES AS WELL AS, I MEAN, I MEAN, JUST REALLY THINKING AHEAD.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO HELP ME FOR THIS FIRST MEETING OF MINE ALREADY FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE INFORMATION I NEED TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

FIRST OFF WANT TO SHOUT OUT CAITLIN AND HER TEAM AT STARBUCKS WHO'S NOW PAYING ATTENTION TO CHIPOTLE, WHO'S NOW PAYING ATTENTION TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO HELLO TO YOU ALL.

SO I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE MEDIA REPORTS OVER THE WEEKEND, AND I WANT TO TALK DIRECTLY TO TO YOU, BRIAN.

SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO SIT IN THIS SEAT WHEN PEOPLE TAKE UNNECESSARY SHOTS AT US.

THEY OFTEN DO THINGS THAT ARE UNCOUTH, UNNECESSARY, UNCALLED FOR.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY TO YOU IN PUBLIC THAT YOU NEED TO REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE.

GOT THREE BLACK FOLKS UP HERE ON ON THIS DAIS.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NOT ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY SPEAKS FOR ALL OF US.

BLACK FOLK IN AMERICA ARE NOT A MONOLITH.

WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE WE SEE THE THINGS THAT YOU ADVOCATE FOR.

WE LISTEN TO THE THINGS YOU SAY, AND WE READ THE THINGS THAT THAT YOU PUT FORWARD ON, ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

YOU HAD EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU MADE ON THE ITEM CONCERNED THE CEMETERY.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, I SAID THE SAME THING.

AND. NOTICE THERE'S NO FIRE ON ME.

SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SOURCE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE STILL DEAL WITH THE VESTIGES OF SLAVERY IN AMERICA.

SOMETIMES SOME OF US LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND WE STILL DON'T LIKE OURSELVES.

MALCOLM ASKED THAT QUESTION A LONG TIME AGO.

WHO TAUGHT YOU TO HATE YOURSELF? WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH THAT TODAY AS A PEOPLE.

SO UNDERSTAND WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

YOU'RE MY BROTHER.

I APPRECIATE YOU, I GOT YOUR BACK.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO MAKE YOU GUN SHY.

PARTICULARLY WITH SPEAKING OUT IN TERMS OF ON MATTERS OF RACE AND EQUITY.

YOU KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THE COMMUNITY ABSOLUTELY IS NOTICING.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT.

FOR. THANK YOU.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO CITY OF DENTON WAS FORTUNATE TO HOST THE TEXAS OKLAHOMA KEY CLUB CONVENTION.

KEY CLUBS FROM TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA HIGH SCHOOLS CAME TO DENTON 650.

ALL OF THEM. WELL, WELL MANNERED.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE ISSUE WHEN THEY CAME.

THEY BROUGHT SCHOOL SUPPLIES WITH THEM, AND.

YEAH, AND IT RAINED.

WE DIDN'T GET TO. WE DIDN'T GET TO GET THE PICTURE.

I'VE HAD BOXES AND BOXES AND BOXES OF SCHOOL SUPPLIES IN MY GARAGE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE FINALLY GOT THEM TAKEN TO TOMAS RIVERA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND I GOT A BIG, BIG ELECTRONIC THANK YOU NOTE TODAY.

SO SO THESE THESE KIDS ARE HELPING THESE KIDS TO SUCCEED.

AND I'M AND I'M REAL PROUD OF THE KIDS IN TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA AND OF TOMAS RIVERA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE.

I WANTED TO GIVE THIS ONE LAST GOOD PUSH, I BELIEVE, FOR OUR QUAKER TOWN DOCUMENTARY SERIES THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO SUPPORT. THEY ARE GETTING READY TO WRAP UP THE DONATION PROCESS.

THIS IS ANOTHER PLEA FOR YOU ALL TO GO TO THE DENTON BLACK FILM FESTIVAL WEBSITE.

AND ON THE WEBSITE IT HAS A DIRECT LINK TO THE QUAKER TOWN SERIES DOCUMENTARY WHERE YOU CAN DONATE.

IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE YOUR NAME IN PERPETUITY.

I HOPE THAT'S A GOOD WORD. I'M TRYING TO WORK ON THAT WORD PERPETUITY.

[03:35:04]

SO IF YOU ARE COMMITTED TO THE STORY OF QUAKER TOWN, THAT'S WHERE YOU GO.

DENTON BLACK FILM FESTIVAL.

AND YOU CAN BE DIRECTED THERE.

THE OTHER THING IS, AGAIN, I'M ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.

BUT THIS ALSO IS A REMINDER FOR CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT HAVE NOT DONE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE BE INTERESTED IN GOING ON THE WEBSITE OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WEBSITE AND FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION.

AND MAYBE SOMEDAY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIND YOURSELF ON A BOARD OR A COMMISSION.

THE OTHER THING THAT IS I AM BRINGING A CONCERN THAT YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS EVENING, I DO WANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING UP HERE IS WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST VERY HEALTHY.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE YES AND NO'S.

WE GOT TO DISAGREE.

WE'VE GOT TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUR MIND, COME WITH OUR BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE.

AND I SIMPLY DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC OUT THERE TO THINK THAT THERE IS A BUNCH OF NEFARIOUS STUFF GOING ON HERE.

BUT WE DO DISAGREE.

WE'RE WE ARE ADULTS AND WE CAN DISAGREE AND WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THOSE DISAGREEMENTS.

AND SOMETIMES, NO, YOU KNOW, I'VE TAUGHT MY DAUGHTERS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I'VE BEEN TAUGHT TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES NO IS OKAY.

BE OKAY WITH PEOPLE NOT AGREEING WITH YOU.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE CAN ALL THINK ON THE SAME PATTERN AT THE SAME TIME AND BE IN AGREEMENT ALL THE TIME.

MARRIAGES DON'T EVEN DO THAT.

FRIENDSHIPS DON'T DO THAT.

FAMILIES DON'T DO THAT.

SO IF YOU ALL WOULD GIVE US GRACE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME WITH OUR OWN BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE GOING TO COME WITH OUR EXPERIENCES, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

THIS IS WHY YOU ALL HAVE ENTRUSTED US TO SIT HERE AND FOR US TO TRY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE.

BOARDS, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE VERY PUBLIC AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE BEHIND THE SCENES.

BUT YOU ALL HAVE TO EXPECT THAT IF WE'RE NOT FIGHTING EACH OTHER, SOMEBODY'S LYING.

IF YOU WERE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE ELSE AND YOU NEVER HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH THEM, AND I CAN SAY FOR MARRIED PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU NEVER DISAGREE WITH HIM, THEN SOMEBODY IS LYING.

AND THAT'S NOT HEALTHY.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO COME TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING, AND THAT COMES WITH DISAGREEMENTS.

AND IT'S OKAY.

I WANT YOU ALL TO CONTINUE TO TRUST US THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

WE'RE NOT GIVING EVERY DEVELOPER EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT.

WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON THE CITY ADMINISTRATORS TO GIVE US THE PROPER INFORMATION, AND WE MAKE THAT DECISION AT THAT POINT.

THEY SEND US THIS INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME FOR US TO GO OVER IT.

THEY GIVE US CHANCES TO READ OVER AND ASK QUESTIONS.

THEY ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.

IF SOMEBODY HAS A COMPLAINT, THEY CALL IN TO THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WORKS WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO GET IT ADDRESSED AND ANSWERED.

THAT'S OUR JOBS.

SO IF I DON'T AGREE ALL THE TIME, IT'S OKAY.

AND IF I DO, IT'S OKAY AS WELL.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. DISTRICT TWO REPRESENTATIVE.

THANK YOU. LAST NIGHT I HAD THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF ATTENDING EVEN ROTARY AND HANDING OUT A NUMBER OF GIFT CERTIFICATES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MAYOR FOR WELL, AND TRULY DESERVING YOUNG ADULTS WHO ARE GOING ON TO THE NEXT STAGES OF THEIR LIFE.

THIS IS A PROGRAM STARTED BY THE EVENING ROTARY, AND I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK INTO IT TO SEE IF IT'S IT'S THE RIGHT MATCH FOR YOU AS WELL.

THEY AWARD LAPTOPS FOR FOR WELL DESERVING YOUNG ADULTS TO GET OUT AND START THEIR LIFE.

IT'S A PROGRAM THAT THEY STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND ONE I'VE BEEN OVERJOYED TO SUPPORT FOR FOR MANY YEARS.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS ABOUT IS TOMORROW, STARTING AT THE VILLAGE CHURCH IS ANOTHER OF THE OF THE LOCAL BIKE BUSSES.

IT STARTS AT THE VILLAGE CHURCH.

IF YOU WANT TO GET ON YOUR BIKE AND BIKE WITH THE ELEMENTARY KIDS YOU CAN FORM A WHAT AMOUNTS TO ESSENTIALLY A JOYFUL PARADE TO SCHOOL ON YOUR BIKE.

AND I REALLY STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO GET INVOLVED, GET SHOW THESE KIDS THAT YOU SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR ACTION, THESE PARENTS AND IT'S IT'S IT'S REALLY A GREAT AND REWARDING OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO REAL QUICK SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE GUYER SOFTBALL TEAM.

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I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO RB AUBREY.

BOYS BASEBALL TEAM SPECIFICALLY.

GRANT RAMSEY AND HIS TEAMMATES GOT TO WATCH THEM AS THEIR PLAYOFF RUN ENDED.

BUT GREAT. GREAT EXPERIENCE.

AND CONGRATULATIONS TO GRANT RAMSEY, WHO'S GRADUATING TO ALLIE LOVE, A FRIEND OF MINE.

SHE'S IN COLLEYVILLE.

THE LOVE FAMILY IS GREAT TO ME, AND SO SHE'S GREAT.

SHE'S GRADUATING.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

AND THEN AS WELL AS COLLIN GREER BUDDY OF MINE, SEAN GREER.

AND BUT TO ALL THE GRADUATES THAT ARE COMING UP, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO GO OUT, REPRESENT DENTON WELL TO ALL THE GRADUATES THIS YEAR, AND THEN BE MINDFUL OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, NOT ONLY DENTON SCHOOLS, BUT OTHER SCHOOLS USING THE COLISEUM.

SO IT WILL BE REALLY BUSY AROUND THERE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

AND THEN REMINDER, MEMORIAL DAY IS COMING UP.

SO CITY OF DENTON OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED MONDAY.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEP. SO JUST PLAN AROUND THAT.

AND I THINK THAT IS EVERYTHING.

HAD A GREAT TIME. AND SO THANKS TO PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THE THE THE SPRAYGROUND IT WILL BE BACK UP AND RUNNING THIS WEEKEND.

HAD TO FIX SOME STUFF.

THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THAT MEANS KIDS WERE PLAYING WITH IT.

SO THE ADDITIONS ARE WELCOME.

IT WAS AN AMAZING TURNOUT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND AT 845, WE'LL CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S MEETING.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.