[WORK SESSION BEGINS AT 2:00 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION ROOM]
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          THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL. IT IS TUESDAY, JULY 23RD, 2024. IT IS 2:07 P.M. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST THINGS. QUESTIONS ON THE, CONSENT AGENDA OR COMMENTS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO PULL ITEM B, IS 
          [2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda for public hearing and individual consideration.]
THAT RIGHT? LET ME GET THERE. YES. ITEM B THE NOMINATIONS. OR SEPARATE VOTE. AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM B. REGARDING THE, GABRIEL KIRKPATRICK CAN WHO CAN SPEAK TO MY REQUEST AROUND THAT, AROUND THE UPDATED NUMBER? THE STAFF. YEAH. I HAD REQUESTED AN EMAIL, UPDATED NUMBERS. DID WE DID WE RECEIVE THAT? WE DID NOT. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHAT WHAT EFFORTS DID WE MAKE TO CONNECT? WE MADE A PHONE CALL AND SENT TWO EMAILS. AND SO LAST WEEK WE MADE WHAT DO WE DO? WE DID THE SAME, A PHONE CALL AND AN EMAIL. AND WE GOT A RESPONSE. YES, SIR. SO WE KNOW THOSE THINGS WORK. OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU, IF SOMETHING COMES IN BEFORE THIS EVENING OR BEFORE WE GET TO THAT VOTE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU. I'LL RESERVE THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THAT. FOR THAT ITEM. OKAY. THEN WITH THAT, THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION, AND THAT 
          [A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Fiscal Year 2024-25 Annual Internal Audit Plan.
    [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 15 minutes]]
IS, THREE A ID 241359 RECEIVE REPORT, WHOLE DISCUSSION, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2425 ANNUAL ANNUAL INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN. HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          MADISON DENTON CITY AUDITOR HERE TO GET DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL ON OUR ANNUAL AUDIT PLAN FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO JUST AS A QUICK REFRESHER, THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING INDEPENDENT AND OBJECTIVE REVIEWS OF CITY FUNCTIONS TO STRENGTHEN PUBLIC TRUST AND PROMOTE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THESE REVIEWS GENERALLY FALL UNDER ONE OF THREE LINES OF SERVICE RELATED TO ASSURANCE, CONSULTING, AND INVESTIGATIONS, AS SHOWN IN THE FIGURE. IN ADDITION, THE OFFICE PROVIDES SUPPORT TO THE CITY'S BOARD OF ETHICS AND HAS ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES TO SUPPORT THESE SERVICES, INCLUDING STAFF TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, PERFORMANCE MONITORING AND REPORTING, AND MANAGEMENT OF THE AUDIT PROJECT QUALITY CONTROL SYSTEM AS REQUIRED BY AUDITING GOVERNMENTAL AUDITING STANDARDS. 
          AT THIS TIME, THE OFFICE'S LARGEST FOCUS IS ON PROVIDING ASSURANCE SERVICES, INCLUDING AUDITS AND COMPLIANCE REVIEWS. FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425, I AM TO SPEND ABOUT 60% OF THE DEPARTMENT'S TIME NEXT YEAR PERFORMING AUDIT WORK, INCLUDING NEW AUDIT PROJECTS AND FOLLOW UP REVIEWS AS SHOWN IN THE CHART. ALTOGETHER, THIS BUDGET BUDGET DEDICATES ABOUT 80% OF THE OFFICE'S TIME TO ASSURANCE SERVICES, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. IN ADDITION, AS I MENTIONED, I SERVE AS THE LIAISON TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE TIME BUDGET, AS WELL AS TAKING CARE OF PERFORMANCE REPORTING AND OTHER NON-AUDIT SERVICES LIKE THE LIKE FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE INVESTIGATIONS AND CONSULTATION PROJECTS REQUESTED BY CITY MANAGEMENT AND CITY COUNCIL, AND SO NOW I'D LIKE TO RECEIVE DIRECTION ON NEW AUDIT PROJECTS AND FOLLOW UP REVIEWS THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE ME TO PERFORM, NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING WITH THE NEW AUDITS. SO BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY MANAGEMENT, THE 2024 COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS, AND PREVIOUS RISK ASSESSMENTS, I DEVELOPED TEN OPTIONS FOR NEW AUDIT PROJECTS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AS PRESENTED ON THE SLIDE, THESE OPTIONS ARE CATEGORIZED INTO PRIORITY RANKINGS BASED ON RESPONSES FROM A RESIDENT SURVEY ISSUED IN EARLY JULY. WITHIN EACH PRIORITY CATEGORY, EACH PROJECT IS RANKED BASED ON AUDITS, WEIGHTED RISK SCORE, WHICH IS BASED ON FINANCIAL RISK, OPERATIONAL RISK, REPUTATIONAL RISK, AND REGULATORY RISK. FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT EACH PROPOSED. 
          THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF EACH OF THESE PROJECTS IS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP, BUT I LISTED KIND OF THE GENERAL FUNCTIONS TO BE REVIEWED FOR EACH PROJECT ON THE SLIDE, AND I STATED AT THE BOTTOM, THE PROPOSED TIME BUDGET PROVIDES ABOUT 2700 HOURS TO PERFORM NEW AUDIT PROJECTS. SO OPEN FOR FLOOR. SORRY FOR QUESTIONS AND DIRECTION ON THE NEW AUDIT PROJECTS TO BE PERFORMED NEXT YEAR. OKAY, I HAVE TO STOP SHARING. CORRECT? RIGHT, YES. IF YOU'D BE SO KIND. 
          THERE YOU GO, COMMENTS ON THE AUDIT AUDIT PLAN. ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE 
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IN DISTRICT SIX. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL PERSON. JESTER, I WANT TO SAY FIRST, I ASSUME IT WAS PROBABLY YOU THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATED THAT. 
          AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL, AND SAVES TIME FOR EVERYONE TODAY. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU, GOING TO SUCH LENGTHS, I WANTED TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE ACCESSIBILITY. IS THAT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FORMS THE CITY MIGHT HAVE, AS WELL AS IN THE COURTS? AND WHAT WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT ENTAIL? CAN YOU LET ME KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE? YEAH. WE PLAN TO LOOK AT, KEY COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. SO REALLY THE RESIDENT FACING THINGS AND I WOULD THINK IT WOULD INCLUDE COURTS, BUT, ALSO THINGS LIKE, THE PARKS AND REC, GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT WE MIGHT DO OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE'RE SERVING RESIDENTS DIRECTLY. AND KIND OF WHAT, TOOLS AND RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN THERE ARE LANGUAGE BARRIERS THAT WE CAN SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL ASSISTING THOSE CITIZENS. OKAY DOES THAT HELP? YES. OKAY. MAYOR, MAY I FOLLOW UP WITH ONE MORE QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU. DOES THIS ENTAIL ANY KIND OF, ADDITIONAL RESEARCH OR WHAT ARE WE RELYING UPON TO DETERMINE WHAT LANGUAGES ARE SPOKEN TO NECESSITATE THAT TYPE OF, ADDRESSING, ONE OF THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE IS OBVIOUSLY THE CENSUS, WE'RE ALSO, IF WE IF THIS PROJECT GETS SELECTED, WE PLAN TO REACH OUT TO THE UNIVERSITIES TO SEE IF THEY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THEIR LANGUAGES THAT THEIR POPULATIONS SPEAK AS WELL. WELL, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND ALL THE BACKUP MATERIALS WERE VERY HELPFUL AS WELL. VERY PRECISE AND HELPFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? SO IT REALLY IS ABOUT IF YOU WHETHER TO LEAVE IT AS YOU HAVE PLANNED. CORRECT. SO WE REALLY NEED MAYBE 5 TO 6 PROJECTS TO BE DIRECTED TO, TO DO FOR NEXT, NEXT YEAR. THERE'S THE PRIORITY RANKING IS PRESENTED TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT, ESSENTIALLY, BUT YOU CAN SELECT WHATEVER COUNCIL DESIRES. OKAY. SO, DOES LOOKING AT AND THAT SLIDE FOR I DO BELIEVE THAT HAS KIND OF THOSE CORE. SO YEAH IF EVERYONE COULD SPEAK TO THOSE THAT'D BE GREAT. AND I'LL JUST ADD I WOULD LIKE THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER ON ON MY QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, CONSIDERATION FOR THE, ORDINANCES THAT, THAT ARE NOT ENFORCED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE TO KIND OF GET FRESH EYES ON AND BRING BACK THAT DISCUSSION. THEN, HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE. I'M FINE WITH, FIRE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME WOULD BE ANOTHER BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAS THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITY MANAGER WHEN IT COMES TO, HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, THEN PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S ALWAYS TOP OF MIND, AND IN THAT SAME CATEGORY, I WOULD SAY THE ANIMAL SERVICES OPERATION. SO THOSE ARE MY FIVE. OKAY. AND FOR THOSE, THAT MAYBE HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST A CONSIDERATION FOR THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT ORDINANCES THAT WE DON'T ENFORCE AND BRINGING SOMETHING BACK FOR US TO CONSIDER EITHER MODIFYING, DOING AWAY WITH, JUST TAKING, GIVING DIRECTION ON THOSE THINGS THAT ORDINANCES ON THE BOOKS THAT AREN'T ENFORCED. SO THAT'S NOT LISTED IN HER SCOPE, BUT ONE THAT THAT I'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT, THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE AND THEN FROM DISTRICT TWO. YEAH. THE WAY I INTERPRETED THE SLIDE, IT SAID THAT YOU'VE GOT 2700 HOURS. ALLOCATED FOR THIS, THIS CATEGORY. CORRECT. AND THE ADD UP WAS, I THINK, 2500. SO I THOUGHT YOU WERE MAYBE I MAYBE I DID IT WRONG. SO I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING ALL THIS FITS IN. AND I THINK YOUR EXPLANATION OF, OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROCESS AND, AND PRIORITIZING WAS PERSUASIVE. SO HAPPY TO GO WITH, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO IS SOME OF THAT NOT. 
          RIGHT. SO WE CANNOT DO ALL TEN PROJECTS. WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT. IF YOU JUST START AT THE TOP, YOU GET YOU CAN DO WE CAN DO THE CRITICAL AND ALL THREE HIGH AND THEN ONE ISH, ONE OF THE MEDIUM. IF YOU WANT TO GO FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM BASICALLY IS THAT DO YOU MIND 
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PUTTING LIKE YOU CAN PUT THE SLIDE UP OR YOU CAN SEE BRIAN I CAN I'M NOT SURE. YEAH. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO IT. YEAH. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THAT SO SAY THAT AGAIN. THE CRITICAL THE HIGHS AND THEN ONE OF THE MEDIUMS ONE OF THE MEDIUMS. AND I'M HAPPY TO LET YOU GO ON TO OTHER COMMENTS. 
          SO I'LL GIVE THAT A THANK. ALL RIGHT. YOU PUT THE REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. 
          YEAH I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I, BASED ON THE 2700, IT LOOKED LIKE, I'M IN SUPPORTIVE OF THE OF, MADISON DOING THE CRITICAL AND THE HIGH. I THINK THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN HANGING OVER OUR HEAD FOR A WHILE, AND A LOT OF EFFORT IS PUT INTO THEM, AND THEN, I HONESTLY THINK ALL THREE MEDIUMS ARE. NECESSARY TO LOOK AT. IF I HAD TO DROP ONE TO FIT INTO YOUR YOUR SORT OF, SIX ISH PROGRAMS, I WOULD DROP VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT, AND KEEP THE OTHER TWO. BUT, OTHERWISE, I, YOU KNOW, I IF YOU COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO ALL OF CRITICAL HIGH AND MEDIUM, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OKAY, ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. I THINK I'M. I THINK I'M IN IN LINE WITH THAT, THE CRITICAL ALL THE HIGH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER TIME, PLEASE. ALL ARE IMPORTANT. THOSE ARE MY FIVE TOP FIVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OH, REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. COUNCILPERSON. JESTER. THANK YOU, MY INPUT WOULD BE I ABSOLUTELY AGREE ON THE HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE, I ALSO THINK IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO, AUDIT AND CLEAN HOUSE AS FAR AS OUR ORDINANCES THAT WE KEEP TRACK OF THOSE, I KNOW WE ADD TO THEM A LOT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO CLEAN THAT UP IF POSSIBLE. I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS A NOBLE GOAL IN GOVERNMENT, AND THEN I THINK THE ANIMAL SERVICES AND I WOULD ALSO MOVE UP THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER TIME. SO THOSE WOULD BE PROBABLY MY PRIORITIES. AS FAR AS MY $0.02. AND THANK YOU AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYONE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. I'M FINE. LINING UP WITH HIGH MEDIUM FIRE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME. SO JUST TO RECAP, I THINK I HAVE DIRECTION FOR THE CRITICAL AND THE HIGH AND THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME. YEAH. SO I'M AT CRITICAL HIGH. YEAH. BEAR WITH ME. PUBLIC WORKS. I DON'T SHOW. YEAH, I THOUGHT I HAD YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER. HOLLAND COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER AND COUNCIL MEMBER. BECK. I WORKED AROUND PUBLIC WORKS. YEAH, YEAH. NO, NO. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN I JUST HAD IT. I MOVED THEM OUT OF ORDER, IN MY NOTES. AND THEN FIRE DEPARTMENT. YES. OKAY YEAH. WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN ONE, ONE MORE LAST PIECE TO THIS. SURE AND THEN ALSO. OH, HERE WE GO, WE ALSO HAVE FOLLOW UP REVIEWS TO BE PERFORMED FOR NEXT YEAR. I'M RECOMMENDING THE EIGHT PROJECTS THAT ARE KIND OF BOXED IN BE PERFORMED BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS, PLANNING OF FOLLOW UP REVIEWS, SO THIS WOULD COVER 12 SEPARATE REPORTS AND 100 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WOULD GET UPDATES ON FOR NEXT DURING NEXT YEAR, HOWEVER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE UP SOME A PROJECT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. SO OKAY. ANY SUGGESTED CHANGES? SEEING THAT AND CAN YOU PULL IT DOWN. OH YEAH. SORRY THERE WE GO, REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE. OH. YOU DIDN'T. OH, I'M SORRY. DISTRICT TWO. 
          THANK YOU, I JUST HAD, JUST SOME CLARITY, THE RED BOXES MEANS THE ONES YOU'RE RECOMMENDING. WE DO. 
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CORRECT. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS TO WATER SYSTEMS AND METER READING? THEY GET PUSHED TO 25, 26? YES THAT'S LIKELY. OKAY, THEN. THEN I'M FINE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY SO AS IS ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU 
          [B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Fiscal Year 2024-25 preliminary utility forecasts for Solid Waste, Water, Wastewater/Drainage, Electric, and Customer Service.
    [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 1 hour]]
VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THAT TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM ITEM B I'D 24226 RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2425 PRELIMINARY UTILITY FORECAST. SOLID WASTE WATER, WASTEWATER DRAINAGE, ELECTRIC AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          AM I GOOD? OKAY GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL JESSICA WILLIAMS, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER I BELIEVE THIS IS MY THIRD TIME THIS SEASON JOINING YOU ALL TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET, SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE PRELIMINARY UTILITY BUDGETS. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOLID WASTE ELECTRIC CUSTOMER SERVICE, WATER, WASTEWATER AND DRAINAGE. 
          AND THEN WE'LL TALK SOME ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS, WHICH BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH AT THIS POINT, JOINING US TODAY ARE ALL OF THE DIRECTORS FOR THE UTILITIES. SO THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON PARTICULAR PROJECTS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM. AND WE ALSO HAVE WITH US TODAY OUR BUDGET MANAGER, MATT HAMILTON, AND HE AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB THIS YEAR AS WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE KICKED OFF THE BUDGET BACK IN THE JANUARY FEBRUARY TIME FRAME. WE THEN WENT THROUGH OUR SUBMISSIONS. WE HAD OUR MEETINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND WE'VE MET WITH PUB, PUB DID RECEIVE THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND WE ARE NOW IN THE CITY COUNCIL REVIEW PORTION OF THIS PROCESS ON AUGUST THE 10TH. 
          WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THAT WONDERFUL SATURDAY TOGETHER. LIKE I TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME I WAS HERE LAST WEEK, AND WE WILL HAVE OUR THANK YOU. WE WILL HAVE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THROUGH MORE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TO GET TO THE 17TH OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS WHEN WE WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING. AND DO FEEL FREE, AS ALWAYS, TO STOP ME AT ANY POINT DURING THE PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. SO THIS GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE ORG CHART FOR SOLID WASTE. RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE AN FTE COUNT THAT IS FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS OF 133 EMPLOYEES. THE DEPARTMENT IS ANTICIPATING A 2.6% GROWTH IN RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S THAT DARK BLUE LINE ON THE TOP IN THE YELLOW, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT A 2% GROWTH IN COMMERCIAL FRONT LOAD AND SIDE LOAD POLES. AND THEN OUR VERY BOTTOM ONE THERE ON THE BOTTOM IS THE LANDFILL GROWTH AT 2.1. AND IT TRACKS VERY, VERY CLOSELY TO WHAT WE SEE IN THE MIDDLE THERE, WHICH IS ROLL-OFF HULLS. SO DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, THIS FUND SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS. THEY HAD SOME INCREASES IN THEIR READY TO WORK PROGRAM RADIO SUBSCRIPTIONS, COMPUTER REPLACEMENT, OFFICE SUPPLIES, ETC. ALL LISTED THERE, AND THEN SOME SOFTWARE FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING VEHICLES. IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE ITEMS, I WOULD ASK THAT BRIAN. JOIN US FROM SOLID WASTE. ANY QUESTIONS ON SOLID WASTE? AND I GUESS YOU HAD TO PULL THAT DOWN FOR A SECOND SO I CAN SEE. OH, REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. YEAH, THEY'RE READY TO WORK PROGRAM MONEY THAT'S PAYING FOR LABOR. YES, YES. I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S NOT IT'S AN EXPENDITURE FOR LABOR THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE TO PAY FOR SOME OTHER WAY. THAT IS CORRECT. THE READY FOR WORK PROGRAM IS A COOPERATION BETWEEN US AND OUR DAILY BREAD, THEY'RE TAKING FOLKS OFF THE STREET TRAINING THEM, GIVING THEM SUPPORTIVE SERVICE. THEY COME TO US AND NO MORE THAN 29 HOURS A WEEK. THEY WORK. THEY WORK HARD, THEY WORK WELL. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY A TRANSITIONAL PROGRAM. WE'VE ACTUALLY HIRED SOME OF THESE FOLKS AS FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS BACK INTO OUR DEPARTMENT. SO IT'S A WORKING PROGRAM. WE'VE HAD THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT WE'VE NEVER FULLY FUNDED IT. SO WHAT THIS REPRESENTS IS ACTUALLY FULLY FUNDING THE PROGRAM GOING FORWARD. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF UNDERSCORE, IN CASE ANYBODY THOUGHT LIKE THIS IS SOME KIND OF A GIVEAWAY, YOU'RE YOU'RE PAYING FOR LABOR, YOU PAY. IF IT WASN'T IN THAT LINE ITEM, YOU'D BE PAYING FOR LABOR ON ANOTHER LINE ITEM, CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. WHILE YOU'RE THERE, JUST JUST THAT WAS ONE OF 
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MY QUESTIONS. AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT. WELL, SO IT'S THERE'S SOME OF THE TRAINING OR THE STAFFING ON OUR DAILY BREAD. IS THAT WORKED INTO THAT NUMBER OR IS THAT JUST HOURS WORKED AT THE DENTON LANDFILL? NO, THAT IS A FULL, FULL COST ACCOUNTING OF EVERYTHING THAT WE GET FROM OUR DAILY BREAD. SO THEY, THEY, THEY PROVIDE US WITH PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINED, VETTED, HAVE THEIR SUPPORT SERVICE SO THAT NUMBER COVERS EVERYTHING THAT WE GET FROM OUR DAILY BREAD FOR THESE, THESE INDIVIDUALS. SO. WELL, LET ME HELP. HELP ME UNDERSTAND. SO THAT TRAINING COMPONENT. SO THEY'LL SEND THEY'LL SAY THIS INDIVIDUAL TRAINED THIS MANY HOURS ON SITE OR IN PREPARATION OR IN IS THAT PART OF THAT OR IS IT JUST HOURS IN AND OUT OF ON AND OFF THE CLOCK AT WHATEVER IT'S HOURS ON AND OFF THE CLOCK, BUT IT'S A FULLY ROLLED IN SERVICE. SO THE HOURS THAT THEY WORK HAS, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT FOR WHAT THEY'RE GETTING PAID, THAT THE, THE PERSON IS GETTING PAID. AND THEN THAT, THAT SORT OF OVERHEAD THAT ENCOMPASSES THE TRAINING, THE SUPPORT SERVICE, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY OFFER. GOT IT. AND WHAT IS THAT OVERHEAD LOOK LIKE? AND JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN, I'M SUPPORTIVE. I JUST NEED SO I KNOW I KNOW THE ONE ONE PERSON I'VE TALKED TO THAT KIND OF, TALKED ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM THERE AT OUR DAILY BREAD. BUT I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A TEAM THAT GOES AROUND THAT. SO THERE IS. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. WE CAN GET THAT BACK TO YOU. YEAH. IF YOU FOLLOW UP WITH ME, I JUST I MEAN, AGAIN, GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. HOW MANY ARE ON THAT PROGRAM AND HOW ARE THEY CHOSEN? AND ARE THEY ARE THEY 1099 EMPLOYEES, NO, THEY ARE CONTRACT EMPLOYEES THROUGH OUR DAILY BREAD. SO THEY WORK FOR OUR DAILY BREAD, AND THEY WORK AS A TEMP EMPLOYEE FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. SO WE BASICALLY PUT IN A CONTRACT FOR OR A REQUEST FOR HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE NEED. NORMALLY WE HAVE ABOUT 5 OR 6, BUT WHEN, WORK LIKE ON ON YARD WASTE, WITH THE RECENT WEATHER EVENT, WE NEEDED A FEW EXTRA HANDS. REACHED OUT TO OUR DAILY BREAD. THEY DELIVERED A FEW MORE EMPLOYEES TO US. SO IT EBBS AND FLOWS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. BUT WE DO HAVE A STRICT CONTRACT HOUR NUMBER THAT THAT WE DEAL WITH. AND SO OUR DAILY BREAD MAKES THE CHOICE AS TO WHO WHO GOES TO WORK. CORRECT. AND IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO WORK? THERE IS A VETTING PROCESS. SO EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE IN THIS PROGRAM CANNOT BE IN THIS PROGRAM. THEY'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH TRAINING, THEY'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH SUPPORT SERVICES. THEY'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS HOW YOU WORK, YOU KNOW, GETTING PEOPLE BACK RE-ACCUSTOMED TO ENTERING A WORKFORCE. SO IT'S THESE ARE, I MEAN, THE EMPLOYEES WE GET FROM OUR DAILY BREAD ARE THE SAME PEOPLE DAY IN AND DAY OUT, EXCEPT IN THOSE EBB AND FLOW, TIMES THAT WE NEED EXTRA EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. 
          YEP OKAY. I'M GOING TO. JUST CLICK HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THOSE THOSE REQUESTS TOTAL ABOUT $359,000. AND LET'S SEE. THERE IT GOES OKAY. SO LOOKING AT PERSONNEL AND SOLID WASTE THIS IS THEIR POSITION SUMMARY GOING INTO THE PRELIMINARY 25. SO 2425 THEY'RE AT 133 WHICH IS THE SAME THAT THEY WERE AT THIS PRIOR YEAR. AND TWO YEARS AGO THEY DID HAVE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, THAT THEY, THOSE TWO DID GO TO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AS WE GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AS YOU'LL RECALL, THAT'S A FUND THAT WE STARTED LAST YEAR AND SOME CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE ON FROM HERE. THIS YOU'LL REMEMBER FROM LAST WEEK. AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO SEE IT AGAIN ON THE 10TH OF AUGUST. SO THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR SOLID WASTE. SO WE REVIEWED THIS AT LENGTH LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS HERE WITH YOU. YOU'LL RECALL THEY'RE AT ABOUT 12.9 MILLION GOING INTO 2425. ABOUT 11.1 MILLION OF THAT WILL BE DEBT FUNDED. 1.8 MILLION REVENUE FUNDED. AND THEN THIS GIVES YOU A VIEW OF THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST OR THE PROFORMA FOR SOLID WASTE. THIS IS A RATHER CONSISTENT FUND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WHAT I WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO AND SOMETHING WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AS FAR AS RATES IN ALL OF OUR UTILITY FUNDS. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK AT LENGTH BOTH A BIT TODAY AND ON AUGUST 10TH, AS TO NOT ONLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE IN GETTING RIGHT SIZED AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AS WE'VE HAD HISTORIC CHANGES IN 
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THE ECONOMY. BEFORE I MOVE ON TO DME, ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ON SOLID WASTE, ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH, I THINK I GOT THE ANSWER BEFORE, BUT JUST SORT OF CHECK IN THAT I UNDERSTOOD. THE EFFORT THAT WILL GO INTO, FULLY SCALING THE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY RECYCLING. YES. IS BAKED INTO THIS WORKFORCE. CORRECT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN INSUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK TO BE DONE. IT IS. I MEAN, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK, BUT BUT BASED ON ON OUR STAFFING AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE SYSTEM IS AND REALLY SORT OF GROWING FROM, FROM ZERO TO SOMETHING. YEAH YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ASKING FOR A FEW MORE ROUTE EMPLOYEES JUST TO GO OUT AND HELP SERVICE THIS BECAUSE IT IS GROWING. SO. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF TO MANAGE THAT. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, YEAH. I HAD, TWO QUICK QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF YOU WERE GOING TO ADDRESS THEM LATER. YOU CAN DO THAT AT THAT TIME. AND ONE IS I NOTICED THAT THE OUR RESERVE IS DROPPING FROM, FROM 6 MILLION TO THREE. AND I WONDER IF WE COULD ADDRESS THAT. YES, IT IS. AND WE WILL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE UTILITY FUNDS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS, BUDGET CYCLE IS CONTRIBUTING FACTORS THAT HAVE GOTTEN US TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT KINDS OF PLANS WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD. AND THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT RATE INCREASES THROUGHOUT THE UTILITIES. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT VARIOUS RESERVES AT THAT TIME. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING. WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TODAY. 
          AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO DEPTH ON THAT ON THE 10TH WHEN WE HAVE THE FULL DAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL THEN I'LL, PULL MY JETS ON THAT ONE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FOR ALL OF THEM, BUT I'LL JUST START WITH, BRIAN, AND THAT IS IN GENERAL FOR ALL THE UTILITY DIRECTORS, I'D BE REALLY AND HONESTLY, FOR ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS I'D BE REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING, FORMULA FUNDING, SORT OF METRICS, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, EITHER, YOU KNOW, BASED ON POPULATION SIZE OR BASED ON, LOAD CHARACTERISTIC, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR CASE, YOU KNOW, AMOUNT OF TRASH HAULED OR WHATEVER OR COMBINATION THEREOF, BECAUSE AS WE EXPAND, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, SORT OF EXPAND PROPORTIONALLY. THAT'S WHAT ONE OF YOUR EARLIER GRAPHS WERE SHOWING. EVERY ONE OF THE UTILITY HEADS HAS THOSE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW OUR, OUR, OUR DEMAND HAS CHANGED. BUT I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN IN ANY OF THE BACKUP MATERIALS FOR ANY OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXPECTING TO NEED, YOU KNOW, X EMPLOYEES OF THIS TYPE PER 10,000 PEOPLE OR X EMPLOYEES OF THIS TYPE. PER, YOU KNOW, THIS MANY TONS OR THIS MANY MEGAWATTS OR THIS MANY GALLONS. AND THAT'S A NUMBER THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PRESENTED TODAY. BUT IN FUTURE DISCUSSIONS, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, SOME ESTIMATE OF THE FORMULA FUNDING. 
          OKAY ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON NOW INTO DME. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO AS WE TALK ABOUT DME IS THAT THIS FUND IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF A COST OF SERVICE STUDY. THAT STUDY WILL NOT BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS. SO THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE PLAN TO COME BACK AND HAVE WITH YOU TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR, MAYBE ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND QUARTER, WHEN WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND A BIT AS WE GO THROUGH DME, THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT DME STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE 187 FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS WITHIN THEIR FUND. DME IS PROJECTING GROWTH AT 7.53% FOR THEIR RETAIL SALES. THAT'S BY MEGAWATT HOUR GROWTH FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS. AS I MENTIONED, THEY HAVE A COST OF SERVICE STUDY UNDERWAY. THAT COST OF SERVICE STUDY IS LOOKING PRIMARILY AT THEIR BASE RATES, THEY MAY HAVE A POTENTIAL BASE RATE INCREASE GOING INTO OR THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR. AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING A NEED TO INCREASE REVENUES IN DME AT THIS TIME BY 1.5. WHEN WE TALK AGAIN ON AUGUST 10TH, WE'RE GOING TO TALK 
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ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT BREAKS OUT IN RATES. BUT THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY, DME DOES HAVE A REQUEST FOR INCREASE IN PERSONNEL, AND THEY ALSO HAVE SOME INCREASES DUE TO CITYWIDE COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENTS. WHERE WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT 5% OR, EXCUSE ME, THAT 3% COST OF LIVING AND A POTENTIAL 2.5% MERIT. THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU A FORECAST OF RETAIL SALES GROWTH FROM DME, THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THAT RESIDENTIAL IS IN THE BLUE AND GENERAL SERVICE IN THE RED. AND THIS SHOWS YOU THAT THEY ANTICIPATE HAVING STEADY GROWTH OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. SO DME HAS A UNIQUE RATE STRUCTURE. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT THIS YEAR AS LOTS HAS CHANGED, THE BASE RATE FOR DME IS MADE UP OF THE COMBINATION OF THEIR PERSONNEL SERVICES, THEIR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, THEIR ROI AND FRANCHISE FEE, THEIR DEBT SERVICE, THEIR COST OF SERVICE TRANSFERS AND THEIR CAPITAL OUTLAY. SO THOSE TOGETHER MAKE UP WHAT WE NEED TO RECOUP ON BASE RATE. THE ECA RATE RECOVERS THE NET COST OF ENERGY AS A PASS THROUGH, AND IT'S A CHARGE TO CUSTOMERS. WE TALK ABOUT THE ECA RATE AND ACTUALLY REVIEW THIS NOW QUARTERLY. SO WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS JUST OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, TAKING A LOOK AT PURCHASE POWER. THE DEC FUEL, THE VARIABLE O&M EXPENSE AND THE PRIOR PERIOD BALANCE. AND THEN WE HAVE THE TCF RATE. THAT'S THE TRANSMISSION COST RECOVERY FEE. 
          AND THIS IS A FEE SET BY THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION OF TEXAS. THE RATE DOES VARY BY CUSTOMER CLASS, BUT THAT IS A PASSED THROUGH FEE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT EXPENSES FOR DME, WE'RE LOOKING AT 14.2% TOTAL INCREASE IN PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES. THAT INCLUDES THAT COST OF LIVING THAT I JUST MENTIONED. AND A POTENTIAL 2.5% MERIT PERFORMANCE ADJUSTMENT FOR EMPLOYEES. IT ALSO INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR 16.5 FTE, SUPPLEMENTAL TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET. SO THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST THAT HAS, THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL. THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THEIR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. 
          THEIR DEBT SERVICE HAS INCREASED BY ABOUT 8.18% IN NON DEC DEBT SERVICE EXPENSE. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, THEY HAD AN ISSUANCE OF ABOUT 60 MILLION. THEY DID HAVE A REFUNDING IN THIS PRIOR YEAR THAT OVER THE LIFE OF THE DEBT WILL SAVE THEM ABOUT 1.5 MILLION. AND WE HAD NO CHANGES TO DEC DEBT SERVICE EXPENSE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ELECTRIC FUND IN THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST AND THEIR PRO FORMA, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH SOLID WASTE AND THAT I'LL BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AGAIN HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SHEET, AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THE SMALLER SCREENS IS THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO. WE ALWAYS WANT THAT RATIO TO BE ABOUT ONE AND A HALF TIMES. AND WHEN WE START TO SEE THAT, WE HAVE YEARS WHERE THAT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO MAY BE COMING DOWN SOME, WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THAT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO, WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. THIS DOES FEED INTO THE CITY'S BOND RATINGS AND IS PART OF OUR DEBT COVENANT THAT WE HAVE MADE WITH THE PURCHASERS OF DEBT THAT WE'VE TAKEN TO THE MARKET. SO THE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS, BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS, AGAIN, ARE ITEMS THAT WERE ALREADY IN YOUR BUDGET LAST YEAR THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN YOUR BUDGET THIS COMING YEAR. BUT THE COST FOR THE ITEMS HAS INCREASED. SO WE HAVE LISTED HERE THE BASELINES FOR DME AND THEN THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL ARE THE NEW REQUESTS. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WEREN'T IN YOUR BUDGET LAST YEAR, BUT WILL BE IN YOUR BUDGET IN THE NEXT YEAR, HERE YOU SEE THE REQUEST FOR 16.5 FTES, SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES FOR THOSE FTES, AND A GIS CLOUD MANAGEMENT SERVICE AND DME IS HERE. IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM AT THIS TIME, OR WE CAN WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THE END OF THE DME SECTION. LET ME STOP. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR ONE QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. MORE PROCESS QUESTION. I THINK, WITH THESE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS IS THE PROCESS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND KIND OF SEE WHAT'S BEEN TEED UP AS BASELINE ADJUSTMENT, AS BASELINE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS AND SUPPLEMENTALS. BUT THEN ULTIMATELY, THIS IS ALL A QUESTION. ULTIMATELY, WE'LL SEE, TAX RATE, A TAX RATE RECOMMENDATION WITH DIFFERENT LEVELS DEPENDING ON HOW DEEP INTO THE SUPPLEMENTALS, LIST OF SUPPLEMENTALS WE GO. IS THAT KIND OF THE PROCESS? YES. AND NO. SO WHAT WE YOU WANT TO TAKE 
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IT? OKAY, SO WE DID THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR AND THAT WE LOOKED AT WHERE OUR TARGETS AS FAR AS AFFORDABILITY, WHAT WHAT CAN WE AFFORD AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO LAND THEIR AFFORDABILITY. CITYWIDE AND LOOKED AT DOLLARS. YES. AND THEN WHERE DO OUR FUNDS NEED TO BE, AND THEN WE TURNED IT TO OUR ACMS. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO CASSIE TO LET HER. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WILL HAVE SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. SO WE'LL SHOW YOU, WE CAN BRING BACK ALL OF THE BASELINE REQUESTS AND SUPPLEMENTALS FOR EACH FUND. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THE UTILITIES. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A PREVIEW TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP A LITTLE BIT SHORTER, HOPEFULLY, BUT AGAIN, WE WILL GIVE YOU ALL OF THE WHITE PAPERS LIKE YOU RECEIVED LAST YEAR, ALL OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR ALL OF THE REQUESTED POSITIONS, ALONG WITH THE BASELINES AND THE SUPPLEMENTALS, WE HAVE ALREADY KIND OF WEEDED THROUGH BASICALLY THE JUSTIFICATIONS AND SAID WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL, FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY EARLIER, DOCTOR BECKS. QUESTION ON THE RESERVE TARGETS. I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT JUST THE WORKING CAPITAL, AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT SOLID WASTE WATER AND WASTEWATER FUNDS ARE ALL MEETING THEIR RESERVE TARGETS IN ALL FIVE YEARS. DME IS THE ONLY ONE WHO IS BELOW THE RESERVE TARGETS FOR THE FUND, SO I HOPE THAT HELPS. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M REALLY, KIND OF TRYING TO GET AT IS WHEN ARE THE DECISION POINTS? WE'RE NOT REALLY MAKING DECISIONS TODAY, RIGHT? WE'RE GETTING A ACCLIMATED TO WHAT'S IN THERE. AND YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THE KIND OF PROCESS I SKETCHED WAS WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED BEFORE, WHICH WAS WHAT'S A PALATABLE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LATER DISCUSSION WITH, ADDRESSING THE QUESTION OF WHAT'S A PALATABLE TAX RATE AND THEN HOW MUCH DOES THAT COVER? AND WHERE'S THE WHERE'S THE ROOM TO MANEUVER? SO ARE YOU SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING A SUPPLEMENTAL NOW THE RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE A TAX RATE THAT COVERS ALL THE SUPPLEMENTALS. YES OKAY I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE TAX RATE OBVIOUSLY ISN'T FOR THESE FUNDS. 
          THAT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DISCUSSION OR OKAY, ELECTRICITY RATE IN THIS CASE. YEAH. THE UTILITY RATES ARE RECOMMENDED BASED ON THE SUPPLEMENTALS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TODAY. YEAH IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO FUND MORE, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE RATE WILL HAVE TO BE INCREASED, BUT WE WILL HAVE TIME TO GET COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND CORRESPONDINGLY TO UTILITY RATES. OR YOU WANT THE RESPONSE TODAY ON UTILITY RATES, WHICH ARE RECOMMENDED TO COVER THE SUPPLEMENTALS ALREADY SHOWN. CORRECT? YES. OKAY. THANKS. AND JUST ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DME, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE THAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN, WE'LL BE CUTTING THE POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING. JUST REPRESENTATIVE. FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, SO THE SAME QUESTION I HAD EARLIER ABOUT WHEN WE COME BACK FORMULA FUNDING FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS. I'M NOT GOING TO BOTHER TO KEEP ASKING THAT QUESTION EVERY SINGLE TIME. BUT, THE, THE OTHER THING, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF IT'S NOW OR IN A, IN A FUTURE DISCUSSION IS, YOU KNOW, WHY THE, THE VARIOUS, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHY THE PIECES IN THE ECR, OR. EXCUSE ME, ECA RATES ARE ARE BROKEN OUT IN THE WAY THEY ARE WITH, WITH SOME EXCLUDED AND SOME INCLUDED INTO THAT. AND WHY THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BASE RATE. SO IF THAT'S DISCUSSION IS NOW, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE IT, IF IT'S FOR AUGUST, THEN THAT'S A HEADS UP THAT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE, NO. IN IN, YOU KNOW WHY WHY IS THAT BROKEN OUT INTO OUR RATE STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT MAINTENANCE IS, ON THE DECK OR ANY OF OUR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE SO I CAN UNDERSTAND FUEL COSTS. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY VARIABLE, DEPENDING ON LOAD AND DEMAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE REVENUE FROM THE DECK AS WELL. SO THOSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN AND LEARNING OR UNDERSTANDING WHY, IT'S INCLUDED THE WAY IT'S INCLUDED AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THE RATES OVERALL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M BILL SHEPHERD WITH DME, JUST TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, A LITTLE BIT, THE RATE STRUCTURE FOR UTILITIES IS PRETTY COMMON, ACROSS THE INDUSTRY, YOU HAVE A PIECE THAT'S, A FIXED RATE COMPONENT, WHICH IS OUR CUSTOMER CHARGE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE USE A LITTLE BIT MORE 
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ART THAN SCIENCE TO COME UP WITH, BECAUSE THE REST OF OUR FIXED RATES ARE COLLECTED VARIABLY THROUGH THE KILOWATT HOUR CHARGES. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE UNDER THAT BASE RATE LINE. ALL THOSE ALL THOSE COMPONENTS MAKE UP OUR FIXED COSTS ACROSS A FIXED COST ACROSS THE UTILITY, THE FUEL COMPONENT OR PURCHASE POWER COMPONENT. THAT'S THE PART THAT WE COLLECT THROUGH THE, THE ECA. AND THAT PART IS VARIABLE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE MARKET GOES AND DEPENDING ON HOW OUR TRADING STRATEGY GROWS, GOES IN THE, IN THE ENERGY MANAGEMENT OFFICE. AND THEN THE FINAL COMPONENT, WHICH IS A NEWER COMPONENT THAT WE REKINDLED THIS YEAR IN APRIL, WHICH WAS OUR TCF, WHICH IS A TRANSMISSION COMPONENT, AND THAT COLLECTS FOR THE TRANSMISSION, EXPENSES THAT WE SEE THROUGH ERCOT AND USE IN THE ERCOT SYSTEM. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, NO. I UNDERSTOOD THAT SORT OF COMPOSITION, IN, BEFORE, I GUESS, IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE WHAT THEY ARE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO OUR FIXED COSTS, YOU KNOW, AS IN OUR ALL OF OUR FIXED COSTS IN THE BASE RATE, WE, WE TAKE SOME FRACTION OF OUR, OF OUR FIXED COSTS AND ROLL THEM INTO, A USAGE BASED FORMULA. I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. I GUESS I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WHY, WHY THE, THE DEC REVENUE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE EC. ECA THE WAY, FRANCHISE FEES AND ROYCE WERE INCLUDED IN THE BASE RATE AND WHY, M AND O ON THE DECK WAS INCLUDED THERE AND NOT IN THE BASE RATE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SORT OF LIKE, WHY ARE WE APPORTIONING IT TO THE FIXED COSTS IN ONE CATEGORY VERSUS, THE VARIABLE RATE IN, IN THE OTHER CATEGORY, THAT'S THE PART I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN AUGUS, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THEN, IF YOU WANT TO GET BACK TO ME OR, OR WE CAN DISCUSS IT NOW. DEPENDS ON I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO I'M NOT TRYING TO DOMINATE THIS CONVERSATION HERE AT THIS TIME. YEAH. NO, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS. AND I THINK WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU TO HAVE A FURTHER, IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ABOUT COST OF SERVICE, I THINK A LOT OF THAT WILL COME OUT BECAUSE WE DO RELY HEAVILY ON OUR CONSULTANT THAT'S DOING OUR COST OF SERVICE TO APPLY INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICE. AND THE WAY WE'VE HAD IT, WE THE WAY WE HAVE IT BROKE OUT NOW IS ALONG THE LINES OF INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICE, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY DO A DEEPER DIVE WHEN WE HAVE THOSE OTHER CONVERSATIONS. ALL RIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH. I'LL WAIT FOR THAT TIME THEN. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YO, THANK YOU. OKAY AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION WE RECEIVED FROM THE CONSULTANT THAT BILL JUST MENTIONED FOR US. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION. OF COURSE, IN AUGUST. AND LET'S SEE IF I CAN MAKE THIS GO BACK WITHOUT US LOSING WHERE WE'RE AT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A POSITION SUMMARY THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE DME IS AND WHERE THEY WILL BE WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN 2425, SO YOU SEE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEIR 24 BUDGET OF 187 FTE AND THEIR ESTIMATE OF 188 AT YEAR END. THAT WAS A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS PROCESSED THIS PAST YEAR. THEY WILL ADD 16.5 FTE. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE FOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED OVER TO CUSTOMER SERVICE AS CUSTOMER SERVICE AND DME HAVE JOINED, AND THAT REPORTING STRUCTURE HAS CHANGED. THIS SHOWS YOU A LIST OF THE POSITIONS THAT ARE REQUESTED FOR 2425. SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT TYPES OF POSITIONS ARE BEING REQUESTE. 
          AND AGAIN THAT'S THAT 16.5 THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A FEW TIMES NOW AT THIS POINT. SO THIS IS A LOOK AT THEIR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME ON THIS, EXCEPT TO SAY THAT WE'RE SEEING THE SAME THINGS OBVIOUSLY, NOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK WITH THOSE FEEDER EXTENSIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS, THE PLANT PRODUCTION IMPROVEMENTS AND SOME TECHNOLOGY HARDWARE AND SOFTWAR. 
          THIS IS THAT SAME CHART. HOWEVER, IT'S BROKEN DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND I WILL SAY THAT SOME OF THIS AS PRESENTED TO PUB DID GO BEFORE YOUR PRESENTATION LAST WEEK. SO 
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WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP, BUT THIS LETS EVERYONE SEE EXACTLY THE SAME THING. WITH THAT, IF WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE DME QUESTIONS, I WILL MOVE ON TO CUSTOMER SERVICE. GREAT. ANY DME QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO AS I JUST MENTIONED, CUSTOMER SERVICE HAD SOME CHANGES, CUSTOMER SERVICE IS NOW REPORTING WITH DME. CUSTOMER SERVICE IS STILL ITS OWN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND. IT'S JUST A REPORTING STRUCTURE CHANGE. THEY HAVE 62.5 FTE. AND THAT INCLUDES 311 OPERATIONS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT 311 QUITE A BIT, BUT 311 HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED. IT IS A CALL CENTER FUNCTIONALITY THAT ALLOWS US TO STREAMLINE ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS. IT PROVIDES A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOW THAT DEVELOPS OVER THE YEARS TO COME. RIGHT NOW IN CUSTOMER SERVICE, WE HAVE 55.5 FTE AT YEAR END, AND IN 311 WE HAVE 6 IN 2425. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME 55.5 IN CUSTOMER SERVICE. BUT. ADDING THOSE FOUR THAT I MENTIONED FROM DME TO 311 TO BRING THEIR TOTAL TO TEN. 
          CUSTOMER SERVICE HAD SEVERAL BASELINE AND SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS, ALL RATHER SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNTS. WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN POSTAGE, SOME SOFTWARE NEEDS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ALSO HAVE SOME REVIEW OF THE CREDIT AND COLLECTIONS PROCESS. THIS IS THE PROFORMA GOING THROUGH CUSTOMER SERVICE. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE DO SHOW AN INCREASE HERE. WE KIND OF WENT FROM THE 9.8 TO THE 11.4 GOING INTO 24, 25. THAT IS PRIMARILY MADE UP OF THOSE FOUR FTES THAT CAME FROM DME. YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THE CORRESPONDING TRANSFER IN FOR DME INCREASED AS WELL. SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON, ANY QUESTIONS ON CUSTOMER SERVICE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE THAT WENT BY KIND OF QUICK, I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T ZERO IN ON THIS BEFORE. IN THE LAST SLIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WENT NINE, FIVE, 11. THE FIVE IS THE YEAR TO DATE. ACTUAL ARE EACH OF THE PROFORMA SHOWS YOU THE BUDGET THAN THE ACTUAL YEAR TO DATE. 
          AND THEN IT'S GOING BY FAST. OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO JUST WANT TO ASK AND MAKE SURE I'M I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MAJOR SOFTWARE CHANGE WE HAD, WE ENDED UP EVERYTHING, ENDED UP NOT TRANSFERRING AND WE HAD A BUNCH OF MANUAL ENTRY. AM I REMEMBERING THAT RIGHT? THAT'S BEFORE YOUR TIME. BUT THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. LET ME ASK BILL IF HE WILL COME AND SPEAK TO THAT. WELL, IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME AS WELL. BUT YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THERE WAS SOME SOME CHALLENGES ON HOW THE BILLING SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED. A LOT OF CUSTOMIZATIONS WERE MADE, LOOKING FORWARD, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A TOPIC VERY SOON, ON A POTENTIAL REPLACEMENT OF THAT SYSTEM, OR AT LEAST A PROPOSED, REPLACEMENT PLAN. SO, BUT ON THIS WORK WE'RE DOING, IT'S AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT TIES DIRECTLY OR NOT. I'M JUST. BUT I'M JUST ASKING. LESSONS LEARNED. SO THE 311 SERVICE SOFTWARE CONNECT CONTRACT INCREASE AND THEN THE SOFTWARE BUILD OUT FOR 311 SYSTEM, IS IT RELYING ON SOME OF THAT, THAT DATA THAT WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT DATABASE OR IS THAT TRANSFER? IF SO, IS THAT TRANSFER GOING TO BE ARE WE COMFORTABLE IT'S GOING TO BE AUTOMATED TO A DEGREE OF CERTAINTY. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO GUARANTEES. BUT JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND LESSONS LEARNED FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT. SURE. I'M GOING TO HAVE, JERRY LOOPER COME UP. HE'S THE ONE WHO'S OVER THE 311 SERVICE RIGHT NOW. SO, JERRY. THANK YOU. BILL. JERRY. LOOPER DME SO TO, WE'RE SPEAKING ON THE ENGAGE DENTON APPLICATION. I ASSUME THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO WITH SOME OF THAT. THAT'S JUST THE INCREASES. THERE IS JUST OVER OUR MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT CONTRACT TO EXTEND THAT IN ORDER TO GET A TWO YEAR LINE, A TWO YEAR TIME FRAME, IN ORDER TO TRANSITION TO THE NEW SOFTWARE. SO THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE ABOUT DATA TRANSFER, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WE'RE SO EARLY IN THAT THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ALL OF THAT SORTED OUT THAT I CAN REALLY SPEAK TO, TO SAY YES, DEFINITELY, BUT THAT IS ALL PART ALL BE ALL BE PART OF THAT PLAN. 
          AS WE TRANSITION OVER. CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANY DATA, AND CERTAINLY NO CUSTOMER 
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INFORMATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE COMPROMISED. CERTAINLY. NO, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I JUST THE LAST TIME WE HAD A TRANSITION. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE 311 SERVICE. YOU KNOW, TRANSFER OR POPULATION OR WHATEVER WE CALL THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, AGAIN, LOOKING BACK BEFORE, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HIRE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF MANUAL ENTRY OR HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IF THERE'S NOT A CLEAN HANDOFF, IF WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE. AND IT WAS WE DISCUSSED IT EARLIER, THEY SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT SURE IF THIS IS GOING TO TRANSFER OVER SEAMLESSLY. THAT WAS MADE CLEAR AT THAT TIME. SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS TRANSFER EITHER FROM ENGAGE TO THREE ONE OR WHEREVER THE POPULATION OF THE DATA IS COMING FROM HISTORICAL DATA THAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE TRANSITION FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. AND IF THERE ARE KNOWN IMPEDIMENTS, LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. OKAY YES, SIR, SO TO ADDRESS THAT, THAT, THAT ENGAGE DENTON DATA WE OWN. SO, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY COMPROMISE OR ANY LOSS OF DATA. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT IF WE CHOSE, IF WE CHOOSE TO DID MIGRATE THAT INTO THE NEW SOFTWARE, OR WE CAN START FRESH FROM DAY ONE, WHICH WAS ANOTHER PROCESS THAT I'VE USED IN THE PAST THAT WORKS. SO WE JUST MAINTAIN THE OLD DATABASE IN CASE WE NEED TO ACCESS THAT DATA OR MIGRATE IT OVER. OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE WE READY TO MOVE TO WATER AND WASTEWATER? I DO WANT TO GO BACK. IF WE COULD. I MISSED ONE THING ON ON DME. IF YOU AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE SHOW TO SLIDE. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY, YEAH, I JUST HAVE A CLEAR I JUST WANT TO HAVE A CLEAR RECORD. YOU MENTIONED YOU CALLED OUT THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO, RIGHT. CAN YOU JUST THE AVERAGE JOE THAT'S WATCHING THAT MAY NOT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. CAN YOU GIVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR THAT THAT RATIO. WHAT IS THAT. SURE CAPTURE. SURE. SO WE KEEP UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE. THAT'S ABOUT ONE AND A HALF TIMES OR MORE WHAT OUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE IS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THAT PAYMENT IS ANNUALLY. AND WE'RE SAYING WE ALWAYS HAVE ONE AND A HALF TIME. WE ARE MORE THAN READY TO THE MARKET TO OUR INVESTORS. SO IT'S A WAY OF SAFEGUARDING WHEN YOU YOU PURCHASE BONDS FROM THE CITY. SO EASY MATH. IF OUR IF OUR DEBT IS $1,000, WE'RE KEEPING ONE AND A HALF OR IT'S NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT, IT'S A PAYMENT. RIGHT. CORRECT. AND WE'RE KEEPING IN ADDITION, WE ALSO HAVE WORKING CAPITAL THAT WE KEEP ASIDE AND WE HAVE POLICY FOR THAT. AND WE ALSO HAVE OPERATING CAPITAL THAT WE KEEP ASIDE IN THESE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AND WE HAVE POLICY FOR THAT AS WELL. AND FOR EACH FUND, THOSE RANGES VARY. AND WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION THAT WILL HAVE JUST GOING OVER THOSE POLICIES ON THE 10TH, WHEN WE HAVE MORE TIME, JUST AS A REMINDER. BUT THESE ARE ALL IN YOUR POLICIES AND HAVE BEEN FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS. GOT IT. SO WHATEVER THAT SO WHATEVER THAT PAYMENT IS, WE HAVE ONE AND A HALF TIMES THAT PAYMENT SET ASIDE AND WE KIND OF TRACK THAT. YEP. GOT IT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. SO YEAH I THINK WE'RE ALL SET OKAY I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO BACK HERE. AND GET BACK IN MY. WELL DID THAT WORK. NO NOT UP YET. SORRY. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME WITH THE ZOOM AND TRYING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATIONS WORK. AND Y'ALL KNOW I STRUGGLE WITH IT WHEN IT'S NOT DOING THAT. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO WATER, WASTEWATER AND DRAINAGE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WATER AND WASTEWATER THIS IS A GLIMPSE OF THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A TOTAL FTE COUNT OF 185 THROUGHOUT THEIR OPERATIONS, THE DEPARTMENT IS PROJECTING 3.4% GROWTH IN THEIR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, 5.3% GROWTH IN THEIR COMMERCIAL IN ADDITIONAL FACTORS, INCLUDING TIME, THE TIMING OF THE HUNTER COLE RANCH DEVELOPMENT AND MUD GROWTH MAY AFFECT THOSE PROJECTIONS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING, RIGHT NOW, KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW. SO THINGS MAY CHANGE AS ANY OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS MAKE CHANGES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, RIGHT NOW, THEIR REVENUE PROJECTIONS DO INCREASE A 3% INCLUDE A 3% INCREASE IN RATE REVENUE BASED ON GROWTH. SO I CALLED THIS OUT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT WE WILL HAVE SOME INCREASE IN REVENUES DUE SURELY TO GROWTH. HOWEVER, WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING FOR AN INCREASE IN REVENUE ON TOP OF THAT. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE AGAIN WHEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, WE ARE SEEING WATER CONSERVATION IMPLEMENTATION IMPACTS ON THE REVENUES IN THE FUND. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR LOAN FUNDING FOR THE 
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RAY ROBERTS WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION. THIS FUND IS SEEING AN INCREASE IN PERSONNEL COST, AND THAT'S THAT CITY WIDE COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENT THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED. THIS IS A SLIDE THAT I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN PROBABLY MANY TIMES AT THIS POINT. THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER BY FREESE AND NICHOLS, AND IT SHOWS YOU WHERE THE DEMAND IS NOW AND WHERE THE GROWTH WILL BE AND WHERE THAT DEMAND COMES FROM, THAT GROWTH. AND THEN THAT BLACK LINE SHOWS YOU REALLY WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS IMPLEMENTED TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT DEMAND. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WATER FUND, THIS IS THEIR PROFORMA GOING OUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS TO ABOUT 2029. WE HAVE ANTICIPATED SOME INCREASES, AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT, FROM GROWTH IN REVENUE, AND WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME INCREASES IN RATES. WE ALSO HAVE SOME INCREASES IN COSTS AS WE GO FORWARD THROUGH THIS NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. SO HERE YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A REVENUE REQUIRED INCREASE. NOW THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT A PARTICULAR RATE IS GOING TO INCREASE 3% OR NOT. RIGHT NOW WHAT I'M SHOWING IS WE NEED 3% MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THIS FUND WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. OKAY THE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS FOR WATER ARE LISTED HERE, AS WELL AS THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS. AND STEPHEN GUAY, THEIR DIRECTOR, IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM AT THIS POINT, OR WE CAN WORK ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE END OF WATER. ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE SLIDE OF DEMAND VERSUS CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN THING I LOOKED AT WAS OUT YEARS AND TOOK COMFORT IN THE FACT THAT LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE REALLY PLANNING THE BIG PICTURE TO STAY AT A CAPACITY THIS TIME. IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION THAT IN 2027 AND 2028, DEMAND EXCEEDS CAPACITY IN THAT CHART. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AFTERNOON, STEVEN. DIRECTOR, WATER UTILITIES, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE DEMAND IS PROJECTED TO EXCEED OUR OUR OUR PRODUCTION. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE THESE PROJECTS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. SO WE ACCELERATED THE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT AT LAKE RAY ROBERTS. AND SO THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. SO THIS REFLECTS WHAT WE KNEW LAST YEAR OR WELL, NOT LAST YEAR, BUT MOST RECENTLY, WHAT THE DEMAND PROJECTIONS ARE. SO ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE LOOK. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WELL, IT GOES A LONG WAY TOWARD ANSWERING IT. SO YOU'VE TAKEN THESE STEPS. IF IT GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN, NOT EVERYTHING ALWAYS GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN. BUT IF IT DOES, JUST TO WRAP IT UP IN A BOW, DOES THE BLACK LINE GET END UP HIGHER THAN THE ACTUALLY THE RED LINE. SO THE BLACK LINE WILL END UP MOVING FORWARD IN TIME MORE QUICKLY. AND THE RED LINES WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR DEMANDS, THOSE WILL BE IMPACTED BY CONSERVATION. SO AS JESSICA MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE SEEING THE IMPACTS ON OUR RATES DUE TO THE NEW CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT WERE TAKEN WITH THE TWO DAYS A WEEK WATERING THAT HELPS EASE THE PRESSURE ON PRODUCTION SYSTEMS. OKAY, SO THAT THAT'S REALLY THE ANSWER IS A BIG PART OF THE ANSWERS THAT WE HAVE TO ADJUST DEMAND. YES, IN THIS WE ARE ADJUSTING JUST, JUST JUST NATURALLY THROUGH THE CONSERVATION EFFORTS. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. OKAY. WE ARE BACK. SO FOR THE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS REQUESTED BY WATER, THEY HAD SOME CHANGES IN EMPLOYEE RECRUITMENT, SOME FEES THAT HAVE INCREASED. AGAIN, THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE THAT THE COST WILL INCREASE GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR. AND THEY DO HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS FOR NINE FTES. THAT TOTALS ABOUT $957,000. SO LOOKING AT THEIR POSITION CONTROL AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHERE WATER IS AT, THEY HAD AN ESTIMATE AT THE END OF 24 TO BE ABOUT 110. AND THEN THEY ARE REQUESTING THOSE NINE THAT I JUST MENTIONED. THOSE NINE POSITIONS ARE REFLECTED HERE. THERE ARE THREE IN PRODUCTION AT RAY ROBERTS, FOUR AT LAKE LEWISVILLE, ONE APPRENTICE AND ONE ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER. IT IS TO BE NOTED THAT WATER IS THE ONLY UTILITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN ASSISTANT GM OR AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION. THIS IS THE 
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FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR WATER AND AS STEVEN MENTIONED, AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, THE PRIMARY COST DRIVERS HERE ARE THOSE PLANT IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME FOCUSED ON. AND WE'VE TALKED WITH YOU ALL QUITE A BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS AS FAR AS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD FASTER WITH SOME OF THESE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND THAT WE'VE SEEN. ANY QUESTIONS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON WATER? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE I YOU KNOW, I FIND I'M STILL A LITTLE NETTLED AND IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THE, THE MONEY, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE DEMAND AND CAPACITY. THIS IS THE SIXTH ONE OF THESE I'VE BEEN THROUGH. AND, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, WE SEE JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SHOWING US, WE SEE THE DEMAND AHEAD. WE'RE PLANNING FOR IT. YOU KNOW, AND ALL IS GOOD. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD. LOOK, I'M NOT AGAINST THE FACT THAT THERE'S CONSERVATION MEASURES. PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD TO DO ANYWAY, BUT DID THE DID THE DEMAND GROW FASTER THAN WE THOUGHT, OR IS IT PROJECTED TO GROW FASTER THAN WE THOUGHT IN 27 AND 28? OR WHY AREN'T WE SAFELY UNDER IT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, A BIGGER CORRECTION? SO IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU'VE SEEN, THEY WEREN'T THEY WEREN'T ADJUSTED FOR OUR MOST RECENT WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR PROJECTIONS. SO THESE THESE HAVE BEEN UPDATED. SO I WOULD SAY TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE BANDWIDTH, BUT BASED OFF OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING WE'VE HAD TO ACCELERATE THINGS. SO GROWTH FASTER THAN ORIGINALLY PROJECTED, ORIGINALLY PROJECTED. 
          AND WHEN WE JUST COMPLETED THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN THIS YEAR AND THERE WAS A PINCH POINT, IT WAS CLOSE. IT IT WAS IT WAS CLOSE IN THE PAST. BUT WITH THE SECOND. YES, SIR. BOTH OF Y'ALL TALKING, NO ONE CAN HEAR. SO YOU GOT TO ASK A QUESTION. YOU GOT TO LET THEM ANSWER IT. GO AHEAD. 
          YES, SIR. SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? YES IT DOES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO WASTEWATER, WE'RE SEEING SIMILAR PROJECTIONS HERE FOR GROWTH OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. WE'RE SEEING RESIDENTIAL AT ABOUT 3.4. AND COMMERCIAL AT 4.1. WE ARE SEEING ABOUT 3.7% INCREASE IN RATE REVENUE. JUST BASED ON GROWTH. WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD LOOKING FOR RATE INCREASES TO MEET DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIOS AND POLICY TARGETS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IN PRIOR YEARS. SO THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE PUT INTO EFFECT IN THE CURRENT YEAR. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS AT THAT TIME THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED GOING FORWARD IN WASTEWATER. THERE ARE SOME INCREASES IN PERSONNEL COSTS. THOSE ARE THOSE INFLATIONARY INCREASES AND ENSURING THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR STATUS AS AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. SO LOOKING FORWARD AT THE WASTEWATER FUND, WE ARE ANTICIPATING INCREASES OF 11, NEEDED OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. NOW AGAIN, THAT'S TOTAL REVENUES NEEDED, INCREASING 11. THAT'S NOT A CONVERSATION OF EVERY RATE INCREASING 11% OR ANY RATE FOR THAT MATTER, INCREASING 11. AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THAT IS SIMPLY SHOWING YOU WHERE WE NEED TO FILL THE GAP. SO WE HAVE 11% IN 24, 25 PROJECTED IN 25, 26, AND THEN GOING FORWARD INTO 2029. VERY SMALL ADJUSTMENTS REQUESTED IN THIS FUND. WE HAVE BASELINES FOR CYBERSECURITY CONSULTING AND CHEMICAL EXPENSE. WE HAVE SEEN CHEMICAL EXPENSES INCREASE DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. REALLY SINCE THE ONSET OF COVID, AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT ACROSS WATER SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND THERE IS ONE PERSONNEL REQUEST OF ABOUT $101,000 IN THIS FUND. 
          THIS IS THEIR CURRENT POSITION CONTROL. SO AS I'M SURE YOU'VE GATHERED BY NOW, WE'RE KIND OF GOING IN THE SAME PATTERN FOR EVERY ONE OF THE FUNDS. SO THIS IS THE CURRENT POSITION CONTROL. 
          THERE ARE ABOUT 101. WHEN THEY ADD ONE THEY WILL BE AT 102. THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST IS FOR A RECLAMATION TECHNICIAN. AND THEN THIS IS A LOOK AT THEIR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN THAT WE TALKED 
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ABOUT LAST WEEK. SO NO CHANGE THERE TO WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN. WE SEE SOME INCREASES HERE FOR LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS AND REPLACEMENT LINES AS WE MOVE FORWARD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. AND THEN YOU SEE THEM PLANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE START TO TICK UP ON THOSE, AS STEVEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE WASTEWATER SIDE AS WE GO FORWARD. THE PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW FOR THOSE PLANT IMPROVEMENTS IS ON THE WATER SIDE. SO QUESTIONS ON WASTEWATER, I DO I MY QUESTION IS AND I ASK IT IN ADVANCE ON THE CYBERSECURITY CONSULTING. DON'T WANT TO DON'T WANT TO DIVE INTO THAT TOO MUCH HERE LIVE. BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND, MAYBE SEPARATE FROM THIS, THIS COST WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. AND THERE ARE FEDERAL RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WHY THOSE DON'T MEET OUR NEED. ONE AND THEN TWO ARE BETTER SAID ONE. A TO THAT WOULD BE, THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE IF THIS IS A PATH WE'RE GOING THAT IN ALL THESE IT'S A RUNNING ISSUE FOR ME. MY EXPERIENCE WE HAVE A CONSULTANT COME IN AND AS DESIGNED BY DESIGN HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO. RIGHT. AND THEN BUT WE DON'T HAVE BUDGET FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THEN THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US, OH, YOU WANT US TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? THAT'S ANOTHER ENGAGEMENT. THAT'S ANOTHER. AND IT'S JUST THE DEATH OF A THOUSAND CUTS. SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON THE FRONT END TO SAY, HERE'S, HERE'S ANTICIPATED RECOMMENDATIONS, HERE'S ANTICIPATED BUDGET NEEDED TO EXECUTE ON THAT FIRST WAVE OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN SO SUBSET. SO THE TWO QUESTIONS ARE WHY. WHY ARE FREE FEDERAL RESOURCES NOT ENOUGH. AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS I BELIEVE WE NEED TO EXTEND BEYOND JUST AN INITIAL ENGAGEMENT THAT THEN POINTS OUT EVERYTHING WRONG. AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY, OKAY, FIX IT, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'S A SEPARATE ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT? I DON'T WANT TO DIE. DEATH OF A THOUSAND CUTS. SO STEVEN GAYE, DIRECTOR, WATER UTILITIES, TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION, WE DO LEVERAGE FEDERAL RESOURCES, SOME OF THE CYBERSECURITY ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE ARE CONDUCTED THROUGH SIRSA, WHICH IS A FREE, CYBER OR FREE, I GUESS, TOOL THAT'S THAT'S GIVEN US TO US THROUGH THE EPA, MOST OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS OR THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE BASED OFF OF STAFF'S ASSESSMENT OF THE VULNERABILITIES WITHIN OUR EXISTING SCADA SYSTEM, AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY BEING DRIVEN BY CONSULTANTS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. NOW WITH REGARDS TO, PURSUING FEDERAL DOLLARS TYPICALLY, FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT IN THE LOWER DOLLAR AMOUNTS SO THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT THE SWIFT FUNDING THAT OR THE WHAT IS IT, THE WIFIA FUNDING THOSE PROJECTS ARE HAVE TO BE $20 MILLION MINIMUM TO EVEN BE LOOKED AT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO WE HAVE TO WE'RE LEFT TO MAKE THESE OR IDENTIFY THE REVENUES TO SUPPORT THESE ENHANCEMENTS INTERNALLY. GREAT SO IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU RIGHT THOUGH. SO THIS WERE THIS LINE ITEM, IT SAYS INCREASED CYBER SECURITY CONSULTING. YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT CONSULTING THAT THAT'S ADDRESSING ISSUES THAT THE STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED. IS THAT AM I TRACKING WITH YOU. YOU'RE TRACKING WITH ME OKAY. 
          GREAT. SO WE CAN MAKE A CORRECTION TO THE TITLE. YES. IF YOU'D BE SO KIND. AND I THINK IT'S NOTEWORTHY TO POINT OUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE CREDIT TO YOU, RIGHT, THAT, HEY, THESE ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PHRASE THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S CRITICAL TO COMMUNICATE THAT EVEN AT FIRST GLANCE, THAT PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND. NO ONE QUESTIONS THE NEED. I WOULD IF THEY DO, THEY NEED TO READ THE NEWS. RIGHT? RIGHT RIGHT. SO BUT BUT THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. AND THAT THAT DOES HELP ME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT THAT THESE ARE ACTION ITEMS. I MEAN THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH NOT ONLY TO IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS, BUT THEN TO GO FORWARD AND TAKE ACTION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY HELPFUL. THANKS, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS AND IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT SERVICE REGIONS, BUT THE DIFFERENT UTILITIES HAVE DIFFERENT, EXPANSION AND GROWTH RATES, AND BUT TO SOME EXTENT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT, LIKE YOU KNOW, OUR ELECTRICITY GOES BEYOND OUR CORPORATE LIMITS, OUR WATER GOES BEYOND OUR CORPORATE LIMITS, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, FUTURE BREAKOUT OF FORMULAS, SORT OF WHAT IS BECAUSE THIS WAS ALLUDED TO, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER THAT A LOT OF THIS IS, REGIONAL WATER, SO, THE A LOT OF THE GROWTH IS IN REGIONAL WATER. AND SO IT MAKES ME CURIOUS FOR ALL OUR VARIOUS UTILITIES, WHETHER WE'RE 
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TALKING ABOUT SOLID WASTE WATER, WASTEWATER, THE UPCOMING DRAINAGE HERE IN A FEW SECONDS, UTILITIES. WHAT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE GROWTH IN OUR CORPORATE LIMIT EXPANSION VERSUS OUR REGIONAL EXPANSION? THAT. AND IF THAT'S NOT TOO DIFFICULT TO BREAK OUT FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS, I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF PRESSURES WE'RE EXPERIENCING FROM THE REGION THAT WE'RE SERVICING VERSUS OUR OUR OWN CORPORATE LIMITS, COUNCILOR BEC, STEPHEN GAY, DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES. I CAN I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE LION'S SHARE OF THE DEMAND IS WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. WE DO CONTEMPLATE GROWTH OUTSIDE OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS. 
          BUT WITHIN OUR CCN, OUR CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE CAPITAL PLAN FOR SO SAY THE RAY ROBERTS EXPANSION THAT'S BEING DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY THE GROWTH IN THE HUNTER COAL AREA, WHICH IS SQUARELY WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA, THE, THE WASTEWATER FACILITIES UP IN THE CLEAR CREEK IS BEING DRIVEN BY ALL THE GROWTH UP ALONG THE I 35 CORRIDOR, WHICH IS SQUARELY WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. THE HICKORY CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, AGAIN, IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE GROWTH WITHIN THAT BASIN, WHICH IS THE HUNTER AND COAL. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THOUGH WE DO CONTEMPLATE THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHOUT OUTSIDE OF OUR CORPORATE LIMITS, THE LION'S SHARE OF THE PRESSURE IS COMING FROM WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS AND IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DO HAVE RATES THAT ARE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR CUSTOMERS OUTSIDE OF OUR CORPORATE LIMITS TO RELIEVE THE PRESSURE FOR THOSE LIVING WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS. NO. AND I KNEW YOU DID. I'M GLAD YOU ANSWERED THE WAY YOU DID IT. SO ESSENTIALLY, I'M HEARING FROM YOU THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE BULK OF THE PRESSURE IS INSIDE, OUR OWN TERRITORY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT, YEAH. NO. SO I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER. 
          REPRESENTATIVE OF. DISTRICT THREE? I'M, WEIGHING A LITTLE THE COMMENT THAT THAT THE NEED FOR 11% MORE REVENUE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN 11% RATE INCREASES. I'M PRESUMING THAT YOU'RE NOT ADVOCATING, YOU KNOW, UNDER-RESOURCING OR OVER UTILIZING OUR PEOPLE AND RESOURCES. NOT CUTTING. NO. AND WE'RE NOT GRANT YOU KNOW, CANDIDATE. WHAT ELSE WOULD IT BE? BUT RATES? WELL, WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT EVERY SINGLE RATE APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR UTILITY, THAT EVERY PIECE OF THAT'S GOING TO GO UP 11. RIGHT? SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS LESS THAT THE TOTAL NEED IS THE 11 FOR THE WASTEWATER. AND THIS IS, THIS IS LARGELY DRIVEN BY BUILDING CAPACITY FOR CULLEN HUNTER. THAT'S GOING TO COME ONLINE OVER 40 YEARS. RIGHT. IT'S CORRECT TO GET AHEAD OF IT. BUT ALL THE RATE OR SOME BIG SUBSET OF THE RATEPAYERS WILL BE PAYING FOR THAT UNTIL THOSE ROOFTOPS MATERIALIZE. IS THAT FAIR TO BE CLEAR, HUNTER COAL IS A PORTION OF IT. BUT WE'RE SEEING GROWTH NOT RELATED TO HUNTER COAL. THAT IS ALSO PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM AS WELL. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE IT AS SOLELY BEING DRIVEN BY THE HUNTER COAL DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON WITHIN DIFFERENT REGIONS OF THE SYSTEM. OKAY. 
          I'LL JUST, TAG UNDER YOUR COMMENT BEFORE, SO. OKAY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE AN ARRAY OF INCREASES WITH A RANGE FROM, BUT WE'LL SEE. OKAY THANKS. THAT'LL BE PART OF OUR PROMISED FUND ON AUGUST 10TH. YAY GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO DRAINAGE. THIS GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF DRAINAGE. SO DRAINAGE IS UNIQUE. WE HAVE SOME OF DRAINAGE THAT'S REPORTING UP THROUGH STREETS AND PUBLIC WORKS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PORTIONS IN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. BUT IN TOTAL WE HAVE AN FTE COUNT OF 26. OKAY. 
          LOOKING AT THE FIVE YEAR PROFORMA FOR DRAINAGE, THIS IS A SMALLER FUND. THIS IS A FUND THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING SOME COST OF SERVICE GOING INTO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IT'S ONE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IN A WHILE, BUT IT IS ONE OF OUR UTILITIES AND IT'S DEFINITELY ONE THAT TIES INTO ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE SEE GOING ON IN PUBLIC WORKS IN STREETS, IN WATER AND IN WASTEWATER. DRAINAGE HAS SOME 
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VERY RATHER SMALL BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED IN THIS YEAR, FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $130,000. AND THAT'S GOING TO WRAP UP DRAINAGE. AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY SMALL FUND AND WE WILL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT IT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. HOWEVER, WE WON'T IN THE CURRENT YEAR. ARE THERE QUESTIONS ON DRAINAGE ON THIS LIST? OKAY ANY QUESTIONS. OOPS. LET'S JUST STOP OKAY. NO OKAY. ALL GOOD OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RATES AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE FOUND SOME GAPS THAT WE NEED TO FILL. AND SO WHAT THIS CHART CHART SHOWS YOU IS WHERE WE'VE BEEN WITH RATES IN THE UTILITIES SINCE 2019. SO IN 2019 WE DECREASED ELECTRIC RATES 3.5. AND WASTEWATER 5. AND SOLID WASTE 12. AND IN 2020 WE TOOK ANOTHER 12% OFF OF SOLID WASTE. AND THEN IN 21 2% ON WATER AND 5% ON SOLID WASTE. IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, YOU HAD AN INCREASE IN ELECTRIC OF ABOUT 3. THAT'S THAT ECA, TCF THAT WE'VE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT IN THIS CURRENT YEAR. AND THEN YOU HAD A WASTEWATER INCREASE THAT WAS APPROVED COMING INTO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO IN TOTAL, WE'VE DECREASED RATES. 
          OVER THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS. BUT WE'VE SEEN INFLATION OVER THAT SAME TIME FRAME EDGE OVER 21. SO THAT IS A BIG PORTION OF TELLING THE STORY AS TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. WE COULD NOT HAVE ANTICIPATED, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE CIP PLANNING WHEN WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER BUDGETS FOR 18, 19 AND 1920, THAT WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAD NO WAY TO KNOW THAT COVID WOULD OCCUR, THAT THAT THINGS WOULD CHANGE THE WAY THAT THEY DID. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE CONVERSATIONS AND AS WE GET MORE IN DEPTH IN THIS CONVERSATION ON AUGUST 10TH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE DECREASED RATES OVER SEVERAL YEARS, BUT THE COST OF OPERATIONS HAS DONE NOTHING BUT INCREASE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE STILL BUY ASPHALT FOR THE SAME PRICE. THE GUY DOWN THE ROAD DOES, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO WE'VE SEEN ALMOST 100% INCREASES IN CHEMICAL PRICES JUST OVER THE PERIOD FROM THE START OF COVID TO NOW. SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND GOING INTO THE 2425 BUDGET. WE ARE LOOKING AT 1.5% ELECTRIC, 3% WATER, 11% WASTEWATER AND 1.5% SOLID WASTE. 
          SEE, I SAID WE WERE HALFWAY THROUGH, RIGHT? THERE'S THREE THREE THINGS LEFT ON OUR CALENDAR, POTENTIALLY, SO AFTER TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO MEET AGAIN ON AUGUST 10TH, AND THEN WE WILL HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. AND WE WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET, THE TAX RATE, AND THE CIP ON SEPTEMBER 17TH. SO I AM HERE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AND ALL OF OUR UTILITY DIRECTORS ARE HERE AS WELL. OKAY GREAT. AND I ASSUME THE ADOPTION DATE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL. YES. RIGHT. AND SO MAYBE WE CAN PUT THAT ON THERE AS WELL TO SHOW. 
          OH YES. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND THEN IF YOU COULD I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FROM A, FROM A FINANCE PERSPECTIVE TO SAY THE CITY DIDN'T. UTILITIES DON'T HAVE A PROFIT. RIGHT. WE HAVE A BASELINE THAT WE ARE WE'RE TRYING AS A FUND LEVEL THAT WE MAINTAIN BASED ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO I THINK THERE'S JUST AN IMPORTANT ONE PAGER THAT COMES OUT OF THAT FOR OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION. BUT BUT YOU HEAR THAT A LOT ABOUT KIND OF THE PROFIT DISCUSSION. AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING AND YOU YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WE HAVE A COST OF SERVICE AND WE HAVE A BASELINE FUND BALANCE THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN. AND IF WE IF WE GET WAY ABOVE THAT, WE REDUCE RATES. IF WE GET BELOW THAT OR START TRENDING BELOW THAT, WE INCREASE RATES. BUT WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A PROFIT LINE OR PERCENTAGE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE ON, ON, ON THE UTILITY. 
          MUNICIPAL UTILITIES DO NOT GENERATE REVENUE AS A PROFIT. WE HAVE AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE NUMEROUS, POLICY GOALS SET IN PLACE FOR WORKING CAPITAL AND FOR OPERATING CAPITAL. WE HAVE 
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OUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIOS, AND WE HAVE OUR COST OF SERVICE, THE COST OF OPERATING. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE CHALLENGE WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW IS THAT COST OF SERVICE. RIGHT. AND SO YEAH, JUST IF YOU A ONE PAGER I THINK WOULD BE GOOD TO KIND OF HELP US CARRY THAT MESSAGE FORWARD SO THAT IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE THE ADJUSTMENTS AND, IT'S KIND OF THE METHODOLOGIES BEHIND THAT, AND IT'D BE A GOOD CHEAT SHEET FOR ME TO STILL TO HAVE THE KIND OF THE PERCENTAGES OR LIKE, LIKE TO YOUR POINT, YOU RAISE ABOUT, HEY, OUR BOND RATING IS TIED TO THIS, AND THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHEAT SHEET. SO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. IT'S 330. LET'S GO TO ITEM C, ID 241193. RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION. GIVE 
          [C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the nominations of Council members to standing and ad hoc boards, committees, and other internal/external groups, and the associated nomination and appointment processes.
    [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]
STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE NOMINATION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STANDING AD HOC BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND OTHER INTERNAL EXTERNAL GROUPS. 
          OKAY. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG THERE, BUT GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, LAUREN THODE AND CITY SECRETARY. I AM HERE TO DISCUSS THE COUNCIL'S PARTICIPATION IN BOARDS AND COMMITTEES BEYOND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL SERVE ON DESIGNATED COMMITTEES AND OTHER INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL BOARDS. 
          THE INTERNAL BOARDS PROVIDE POLICY, GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION TO STAFF THE EXTERNAL BOARDS HAVE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS AS TO MEMBERSHIP COMPOSITION AND APPOINTING AUTHORITY TO ACCOUNT FOR CHANGES IN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP RESULTING FROM ELECTIONS. THESE ASSIGNMENTS ARE REVIEWED ANNUALLY TO DETERMINE ANY NEEDED ADJUSTMENTS TO EXISTING MEMBER ASSIGNMENTS, AS WELL AS AFFORD MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY ANY NEW OR ADDITIONAL COMMITTEES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON. THE MAYOR HAS THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY. EXCUSE ME? THE MAYOR HAS THE NOMINATING AUTHORITY FOR MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE ON THE ENVIRONMENT. THE APPOINTMENT COMES UPON APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. APPOINTMENTS TO THE REMAINING BOARDS ARE BASED ON NOMINATIONS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, WITH APPROVAL BY COUNCIL THROUGH THE INFORMAL STAFF. EXCUSE ME. INTERNAL STAFF REPORT NUMBER 2024, DASH 25. IT WAS PROVIDED AS PART OF THE JULY 12TH FRIDAY REPORT. COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ASKED TO IDENTIFY AND SUBMIT TO CITY SECRETARY YOUR INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES BY JULY 19TH. SO THIS PRESENTATION IS ONLY GOING TO DETAIL THE COMMITTEES THAT HAVE OPENINGS FOR 2024. THERE ARE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT BUT THE TERMS ARE SET THROUGH 25. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO FILL THE OPENINGS FOR THIS YEAR. 
          JUST A BRIEF REVIEW ON THE AUTHORITY FOR COUNCIL COMMITTEES. THEY'RE AUTHORIZED IN THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE, SECTION TWO DASH 20 9H1, AND CONSIST OF THREE MEMBERS SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL IN 2024, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, MOBILITY COMMITTEE WAS REORGANIZED TO INCLUDE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, SO NOT NO LONGER TECHNICALLY A COUNCIL COMMITTEE. JUST TRYING TO EASE YOU GUYS INTO THAT TRANSITION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A BIT OF A STANDING COUNCIL COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE CHAIRS ARE SELECTED BY THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEES PROVIDE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. SO CURRENTLY OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEES ARE THE COMMITTEE ON THE ENVIRONMENT COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE AND WILL ALSO BE SEEKING MOBILITY COMMITTEE. THIS SLIDE IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE BOARDS THAT WE THE COMMITTEES AND BOARDS THAT WE NEED TO FILL POSITIONS ON. IT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT FOR YOU. SO THE DIRECTION TO BE SOUGHT FROM COUNCIL IS TO UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR'S NOMINATIONS FOR THE 
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COMMITTEE ON THE ENVIRONMENT TO REVIEW THE COUNCIL PREFERRED MEMBER PREFERRED NOMINATIONS PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ABOUT WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE ON FOR THE FORMAL APPOINTMENT, AND A TIMELINE. TODAY WE ARE HOPING TO APPOINT FOR THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL ALL OTHER BOARDS, COUNCILS, COMMITTEES. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS ON AUGUST 6TH. SO THE TIMELINE FOR THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION HAS TO DO WITH AUGUST EIGHTH IS THE NEXT MEETING. SO JUST TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THEM IN ADVANCE AND SO THAT THE MEMBER CAN PLAN FOR ATTENDANCE AND SO WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT WITH, THE WE'LL START WITH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEES. THE COMMITTEE ON THE ENVIRONMENT HAS THREE OPENINGS. CURRENT APPOINTEES ARE COUNCIL MEMBERS. BECK MCGEE AND HOLLAND. NOMINATIONS TO THIS COMMITTEE ARE MADE BY THE MAYOR, CITY SECRETARY RECEIVED THE MAYOR'S NOMINATIONS TO INCLUDE COUNCIL MEMBERS BECK, MCGEE AND HOLLAND. 
          I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE HAS, RESPECTFULLY DECLINED TO NOMINATIONS, LISTING TIME CONSTRAINTS. WHO WOULD BE OPEN TO CONSIDERING FOR THE FUTURE. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HE FELT IT BEST TO DECLINE NOMINATIONS. SO REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. I WAS LOOKING TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT HEARING THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE NEEDS TO STEP OFF. I'VE SERVED ON COMMITTEE ON THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE, AND I'M WILLING TO DO IT AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS ARE INTERESTED AS WELL. WELL DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE OF DISTRICT FOUR, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO STAY ON THAT COMMITTEE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. SORRY. HER STUMBLING OVER THE MUTE BUTTON, YEAH. NO, I MY NAME IS ON THE LIST. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STAY ON THAT COMMITTEE. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. DO YOU DO YOU NOT TAKE ISSUE WITH SOMEONE THAT SERVES ON THIS BODY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO SERVE ON ANY COMMITTEES? I HOPE THAT THE CHARTER COMMITTEE TAKES UP THE ISSUE OF PAY, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A PROBLEM THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE HERE WHO CAN'T TAKE TIME OFF WORK IF THEY'VE GOT A NORMAL TYPE OF JOB REQUIRING ATTENDANCE. SO I THINK IT IS A PROBLEM, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE JUST CAN'T MAKE IT WORK WITH HIS WORK SCHEDULE. IS IT? OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? THAT IS IT. BUT WE. IT'S A CARRY OVER FROM BEFORE, RIGHT? SO, AND I WILL SAY I HAVE A PERSONAL INTEREST IN THIS BECAUSE I TAKE ARROWS FROM THIS GROUP WHEN I'M IN MY OFFICE WHILE Y'ALL ARE EATING, SENDING EMAILS AND WORKING. I'M NOT PARTICIPATING IS WHAT WHAT I'M TOLD VERSUS BUT I'M I'M WORKING. I HAVE EMAIL STUFF THAT I HAVE TO DO. I HAVE TO CATCH UP. WE HAVE MEETINGS. WE ALL HAVE STUFF. WE HAVE TO MANAGE EITHER FAMILY OR WORK. 
          BUT SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MAYOR WELL PUSHED YOU ON THAT. BUT BECAUSE YOU SIGN UP FOR THE JOB, RIGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS. YOU SIGN UP FOR IT. I TAKE I TAKE THE CRITICISM. IT'S FAIR. IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. BUT I'M COMMUNICATING CLEARLY NOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. AND I WAS SCRUTINIZED FOR IT. WELL DOCUMENTED. SO I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH AND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO STEP UP AND TAKE ALL HIS COUNCIL COMMITTEES AND THEN THAT'S AGAIN, I'M NOT I'M NOT TAKING A POSITION THAT IT'S MY JOB TO BE THE JUSTICE POLICE. THAT'S VOTERS EVALUATE THAT INFORMATION, EVALUATE OUR EVERY ACTION WE TAKE AND MAKE A DECISION. SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE GOING TO SIGN UP FOR THAT IN ALL THESE OTHER PLACES, THEN I'M GOING TO PUT YOU DOWN. THAT ISN'T ACTUALLY WHAT I SAID. YEAH. NO, I KNOW YOU DIDN'T, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE I MY CONCERN IS IT STARTS A PRECEDENT. WELL, I USED TO I JUST I IN MELTZER WORLD, YOU KNOW YOU MAY REMEMBER I USED TO SERVE ON ALMOST EVERY COMMITTEE JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A DAY JOB, AND THAT WAS A LOT. SO I PAIRED IT BACK. I'M SIGNING UP FOR ENVIRONMENT, BUT 
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I DON'T WANT TO BE GREEDY. THERE'S SO MANY GOOD EXPERIENCES FOR OTHERS TO SHARE THAT I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT I CAN COVER EVERY ONE OF THEM AGAIN, AND, YOU KNOW, AND I SEE OTHER PEOPLE HERE, TOO, WHO MAY WANT TO TRY NEW THINGS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE NOMINATION AS IS. AND YOU CAN. THE COUNCIL CAN DISAGREE WITH ME AND VOTE IT DOWN. NEXT ONE. SO FOR THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBERS, BIR, MCGEE AND HOLLAND ARE ON THIS. 
          WE DO HAVE INTEREST STATED FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS BIRD AND JESTER. OKAY IF WE CAN PULL THAT DOWN, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX, COUNCILPERSON JESTER. I AM NOT I'VE NOT BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE, SO I'M LEARNING AS WE GO. HOWEVER, I DID INDICATE MY INTEREST. THAT DID NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT, ALL OF THOSE I WOULD HAVE TIME FOR, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE AUTOMATICALLY COME WITH ANOTHER, MEETING AS WELL, MONTHLY, WHICH IS WHY I ASKED IN THE QUESTIONS, HOW HOW MANY TIMES A MONTH DO THESE MEET? IS IT AS NEEDED? IS IT MONTHLY? SO HOWEVER, I DID WANT TO, PARTICIPATE MY FAIR SHARE. SO I WANTED TO VOLUNTEER FOR ONE IN IN EACH OF THE AREAS, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I'M, I'M WILLING TO SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE OF THE PEER COUNCIL COMMITTEES THAT HAS MY, MOST INTEREST, HOWEVER, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO DO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CONVERSATION AND HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. SO WHAT? GOT IT. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, REPRESENTATIVE. 
          NEVER MIND. I'D LIKE TO REMAIN ON THIS COMMITTEE. PLEASE OKAY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. I ALSO WANTED TO REMAIN ON THIS COMMITTEE. GREAT, THEN, YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMMITTEE AS AS IT WAS BEFORE. IF THERE'S. AND AGAIN, IF PEOPLE JUST HAVE A DISSENTING OPINION, YOU HAVE THE YOU CAN HAVE THE FLOOR AND THEN WE'LL JUST VOTE ON IT. OKAY NEXT. OKAY IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY FOR THAT COMMITTEE, TWO OF THOSE MEMBERS DO HAVE TO SERVE ON THE DISCOVER DENTON ADVISORY BOARD. CURRENTLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS BIRD AND HOLLAND ARE ON THE DISCOVER DENTON ADVISORY BOARD. SO THEM STAYING WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD RETAIN THEIR MEMBERSHIP ON THAT BOARD ON, ON COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP. WOULD THEY RETAIN THEIR MEMBERSHIP THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2025? ON THE DISCOVER DENTON? ANY ISSUES THERE? NOT ME. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT BRINGS US TO MOBILITY COMMITTEE, BEAR WITH ME, REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT. WHAT? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE. YEAH I HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, THE POSITION YOU'RE TAKING, BUT CAN YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT? CAN YOU NOMINATE, SOMEONE TO COMMITTEE WHO HAS DECLINED TO SERVE? I FORGET. OH, I'M ASKING YOU. I AUTOMATICALLY LOOK TO MAC. SORRY I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU NOMINATE SOMEONE WHO'S DECLINED? I GUESS NO ONE'S DECLINED. NO ONE'S PRESENT HERE. WE HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BECK HAS DECLINED TO SERVE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE KNOCKBACK. OH, SORRY. 
          YEP YEP, YEP. COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE. SORRY, BUT THEN THE APPROPRIATE NOMINATIONS WERE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS STATED, WHICH INCLUDED HIM. SO THAT'S SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. IS THAT LEGAL. THE NOMINATION CAN BE MADE, I THINK THE, THE APPROPRIATE VEHICLE IS TO USE YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS. OKAY DURING THE VOTE. OKAY THANKS. 
          WELL AND SO TO FOLLOW THAT UP, JUST TO MAKE SURE, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE OR 
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ANYTHING BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE RULES LATELY. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE RULES THAT PROHIBITS IT. THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS THE NOMINATION, THE AT THE TIME OF APPOINTMENT, I BELIEVE THAT PERSON COULD DECLINE, AND IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AS SUCH. OKAY GREAT. 
          OKAY AND I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF, CHAIR'S DISCRETION AND SAY, STAFF RECENTLY, WHAT WAS THE DATE WAS YOU LOOKED IT UP FOR ME. I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE THAT EMAIL IN FRONT OF ME. 
          I WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE. THE DATE WAS THE SEVENTH, JANUARY 7TH OR THAT WE HAD THE OTHER BOARD THAT WE CONSOLIDATED? YES, THAT WAS THE SEVENTH, I BELIEVE, JANUARY 9TH, JANUARY 9TH. SO STAFF BROUGHT IT JUST SO THAT PEOPLE TRACKING ALONG, STAFF BROUGHT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION TO DO AWAY WITH SOME OF THE COMMITTEES. ONE, AND THAT WAS SUPPORTED. THEN IT WAS VOTED OR NEGOTIATED DOWN AND ULTIMATELY A COMPROMISE WAS VOTED ON. BUT BUT STAFF AND I'VE ASKED THE CITY MANAGERS JUST SO EVERYONE'S CLEAR TO GO BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. IF WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS STAFFING OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEES, THEN LET'S DO AWAY WITH THEM AND NOT HOLD. 
          LET'S NOT SEND. I BELIEVE MY WORDS SEND MIXED MESSAGES. WE HAVE PEOPLE WILLING TO SERVE THAT WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T SERVE. WE HAVE COMMITTEES THAT WE'RE SAYING WE WANT, BUT THEN PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SERVE ON THEM. IT PUTS US. WE ARE. THERE'S SEVEN OF US. AND I BELIEVE MY WORDS, WE SHOULD ALL DO OUR FAIR SHARE AND WE ALL HAVE OBLIGATIONS. WE ALL HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES OUTSIDE OF HER. WE ALL ARE PAID TO SOME DEGREE. GET A STIPEND OF THE SAME, BE IT COUNCIL, IT'S THE SAME NUMBER, MAYOR, IT'S THE SAME NUMBER. SO I JUST THAT'S I JUST THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. SO I JUST NEEDED TO SAY THAT REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, AS I UNDERSTAND AND SOMEONE PLEASE CORRECT ME THE MAYORAL NOMINATIONS ARE FOR THE COMMITTEE ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND ALL THE OTHERS ARE, ARE COUNCIL NOMINATIONS. SO THE NOMINATIONS PROCEEDING FORWARD WOULD BE WHATEVER ALL SEVEN OF US NOMINATE, FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN ENVIRONMENT. SO IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, SOMEONE PLEASE CORRECT ME. THAT IS THE CASE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I ASK. WE'VE ONLY DONE TWO. WE'VE DONE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE. 
          EVERYONE'S INDICATED THAT THEY WANT TO STAY THERE. THAT AND I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. 
          THERE WAS NONE. THEN THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE IS WHERE WE ARE. SO IT'S ONLY ONE OUT. WE'VE MADE IT TO ONE OTHER ONE AND EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT. AND WE'RE ON THE SECOND. OH I, I THOUGHT WE WERE STILL WE WERE STILL WRAPPING UP COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP. I THOUGHT COUNCILOR JESTER HAD INDICATED, SOME INTEREST. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE NOMINATIONS STAND ON COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP THEN. AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE'D MOVED ON TO MOBILITY. YEAH WE MATTER OF FACT, TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE CITY SECRETARY ASKED IF THEY IF THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS IN THE ROOM WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ASSOCIATE, BOARD THAT GOES WITH THAT AS A, AS A TO CONFIRM YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THIS BOARD AND IT REQUIRES YOU TO BE ON THE OTHER ONE. AND I ASKED BOTH OF THEM IF THEY WERE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO NOT ONLY DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT, WE CONFIRMED THEIR AVAILABILITY. THEN WE MOVED ON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NO I I'M BUT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT WE WERE NOMINATING, BIRD HOLLAND AND JESTER. NO, YOU'RE WRONG. YOU HAD NOMINATED MCGEE. NO, I DIDN'T, BUT BUT BUT WHAT I HEARD IS THE COUNCIL HAD NOMINATED OR ACCEPTED BIRD, HOLLAND AND JESTER. NO, THAT'S JESTER SAID THAT SHE PUT HER NAME IN INTEREST, BUT IT COMES WITH OTHER. THIS ONE COMES WITH ANOTHER BOARD COMMITMENT. AND THAT MY READ OF HER COMMENTS, WHICH SHE WASN'T INTERESTED IN BEING. SO HAVING TO TAKE ON BOTH AS BOTH BUT I. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. IF I HEARD YOU WRONG, THE ONLY TWO OF THOSE, BIRD AND HOLLAND HAVE THE COMMITMENT AND I HEARD, SECRETARY FOGDEN CONFIRMED THAT THOSE ARE THOSE. 
          SO THOSE TWO MOVING FORWARD. SO THERE'S JUST THE ONE POSITION ON COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENT. AND, AND I HEARD A DECLINE FROM THE FROM THE SECRETARY FOR COUNCILOR MCGEE AND A AND AN INTEREST IN COUNCILOR JESTER, THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE OUR THREE NOMINATIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, FOR THAT POSITION, SO HOW IS THAT NOT THE CASE? WELL, 
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I'M GOING TO ALLOW HER TO SPEAK FOR HERSELF, IF THAT'S OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON JESTER. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO ON THAT COMMITTEE. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT WE HOLD WHILE WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE OTHERS TO SEE HOW THEY SHAKE OUT, TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY FITS INTO THE PUZZLE. OKAY MOBILITY COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY. FOR THE MOBILITY COMMITTE, CURRENTLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS BIRD BECK AND MCGEE SERVE. I HAVE INTEREST FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS BIRD AND BECK NOTED. OKAY DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT I'M STILL INTERESTED IN THAT COMMITTEE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT TWO? I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN THAT COMMITTEE. AND I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE MY, MY COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT FOUR, CONSIDERING HIS HIS STREET INTEREST TO, TO GO IN FOR THE OTHER POSITION. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR I WILL I WILL SO BE INTERESTED. OKAY SO THAT WOULD BE. YEAH, YOU GOT IT. I WILL SAY JUST LOOKING AT THE MINUTES IN PREPARATION FOR THIS, SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS ARE RUNNING TWO HOURS LONG. THAT SEEMS HIGH FOR A RECOMMENDATION, I'LL WATCH THE. I'LL GO BACK AND WATCH THE MEETINGS. BUT I WOULD JUST ASK PEOPLE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE, THE, THE LENGTH OF THOSE MEETINGS. YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, GET MORE DETAIL, OR GET A FEEL FOR IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE OR IF IT'S RUNNING A LITTLE LONG. BUT OUTSIDE LOOKING IN TWO HOURS FOR A COMMITTEE MEETING THAT I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE CAN'T CARVE OUT TWO HOURS OUT OF THEIR DAY FOR A COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEETING. THAT THAT AFFECTS PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY. AND I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, I MEAN, THAT THAT COMMITTEE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND UNDERSTAND AND BE MINDFUL OF THAT. SO JUST THOSE THAT'S JUST PULLING STRAIGHT FROM THE CITY WEBSITE THAT THE MINUTES AND THE, THE TIME OF THE RECORDINGS. SO, THAT COULD BE PUTTING A STRAIN ON PEOPLE THAT CAN SERVE. OKAY. OKAY. SO NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD. THERE IS ONE POSITION FO, NOMINATION AND APPOINTMENT FOR A TERM THROUGH 2026, WHOMEVER IS APPOINTED TO THIS BOARD MUST ALSO SERVE ON THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. NUMBER TWO, BOARD. WE NOT MOVING FORWARD THERE. WE GO, SO THIS APPOINTMENT IS ACTUALLY INDEED FOR BOTH BOARDS. AND THE POSITION IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER, MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER AND COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER HAVE INDICATED THEIR INTEREST ON SERVING ON THESE BOARDS. HOW LONG AGO TERM, TWO YEARS. AND SO THE HOW LONG IS, MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER BEEN THERE? I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME JUST THIS TERM. CAN SOMEONE. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE IF IT'S BEEN A FULL, FULL TERM, I'D LIKE TO SEE A CHANGE THERE, JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, COUNCILWOMAN JESTER IS A IS A BUSINESS OWNER. I THINK THERE'S SOME, VALUE THERE, BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, SO I JUST NEED THAT, THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION. BUT THAT WOULD BE IF YOU'RE MY SUGGESTION IS JESTER THERE UNTIL I GET THAT OTHER INFORMATION AND I MAY FLIP ANYONE ELSE, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU, THE A SOLUTION TO THIS MIGHT BE, 
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PUTTING, COUNCILOR JESTER IF SHE'S AMENABLE ON DETERS ONE AND KEEPING THE CURRENT COMPOSITION OR. MR. MAYOR, YOU COULD STEP DOWN IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO, COUNCILOR JESTER TO VOLUNTEER FOR TWO YEARS. TWO. THAT WOULD BE, A REASONABLE SUGGESTION FOR COUNCILOR JESTER INTO THE ONE OF THE TOUR'S COMMITTEES. DID YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR YOU OR. NO, YOU JUST DOLING THEM OUT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. OTHERS OKAY. GOT IT. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THIS IS PART OF DISCUSSION. I WAS WRITING A NOTE, I WASN'T SURE. GO AHEAD, COUNSEL. EXCUSE ME. MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER WAS PUT ON THAT BOARD OCTOBER OF 2022. YEAH. SO, YEAH. SO THAT'S TWO YEARS JUST SHORT OF TWO YEARS, AM I RIGHT? AM I 22, NOT 23? I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE CHRIS WATTS, COUNCIL MEMBER. WATTS VACANCY. YOU CAN KEEP DOUBLE CHECKING. THAT'S NO PROBLEM. I'M SORRY. IT'S ON THE FLY, SO NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM AT ALL. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? AND I WOULD ASK THAT. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE, AND SO THERE'S NOTHING AGAINST IT. I'M JUST SAYING, LET'S NOT LET'S NOT SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE, BECAUSE WHERE DOES THAT END? I HAVE A LOT TO SAY FOR OTHER PEOPLE. JUST LET'S KEEP IT AT OUR SEAT. ALL RIGHT? I'M INTERESTED. I'M NOT THAT WAY. WE DON'T HAVE THIS CROSSOVER OF, HEY, I THINK. AND THAT JUST OPENS THE DOOR THAT WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN. I BELIEVE THAT, AND I'M JUST ONE PERSON AND REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT ONE. SO IS IT FOR CLARIFICATION? IS IT INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO, NOMINATE MELTZER FOR THIS POSITION? NO. THAT'S YOUR THAT IS YOUR OPINION TO SAY THAT YOU THINK HE SHOULD RETURN TO THAT SEAT. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT TWO? YEAH. THEN IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE'RE PROCEEDING, THEN I ALSO NOMINATE COUNSELOR MELTZER FOR TO CONTINUE. OKAY. AND THEN. 
          IT WAS OCTOBER OF 2022. I'M SORRY. 23 2222 OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S BEEN JUST SHORT OF TWO YEARS. CORRECT YEAH. SO YOU'VE HAD A FULL TERM? YEAH, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S NOT BEEN TRUNCATED. SO I THINK THAT'S FAIR. BUT WE'LL HAVE A VOTE. 
          YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE, COUNCILPERSON JESTER. I AM INTERESTED IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD. I'VE SERVED ON THAT BOARD, I THINK IT NEEDS ENERGY, I'M. I'M GLAD THE MAYOR IS ON IT. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT CAN LEAD, AND SO, WHOMEVER ENDS UP THERE, I HOPE, I HOPE, I HOPE THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE. I GUESS WE CAN SORT OF TAKE THIS OFFLINE, I WAS, I, I'M NOT SURE I WAS ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME. 
          YOU'RE SAYING I WAS APPOINTED, SO I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I WAS PUT ON DURING AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS TERM. IT'S A TWO YEAR TERM THAT I'M SERVING, AND THAT'S A TWO YEAR TERM, MAYBE. 
          MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO. WE OUGHT TO MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AND CLEAR IT UP BECAUSE, I WAS, INITIALLY ELECTED IN 2018. I WAS REELECTED IN 2020. SO I WENT OFF COUNCIL IN MAY 20TH, OKAY. IN MAY 23RD. SO YOU THINK THAT IT WAS THE LAST YEAR OF MY. THIS WOULD SUGGEST THAT I WAS SERVING DURING THE YEAR THAT I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE TRUE. SO I THINK THERE'S AN ERROR. OKAY. WELL, BOTH HAVE BEEN NOMINATED. SO WE'LL HAVE A VOTE NEXT WEEK. SO JUST AND I WILL MAKE SURE TO BRING THAT CLARIFICATION BACK. 
          JUST YEAH WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR BOTH THAT THAT AND THE TOUR'S NUMBER TWO WILL JUST COME BACK FOR A VOTE. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO TOURS THE DOWNTOWN TOURS. TOURS ONE. CORRECT. SO. FOR THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER ONE BOARD THIS, THIS IS THE POSITION THAT I MISTAKENLY HAD PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED WHERE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS WATTS HAD SERVED. AND SO THERE IS A VACANCY ON THIS BOARD. COUNCIL MEMBER 
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BIRD'S APPOINTMENT IS THROUGH 2025. SO THAT IS NOT OPEN, HOWEVER, THE VACANCY IS INDEED OPEN AND I HAVE INTEREST NOTED FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS JESTER AND BECK. OKAY. I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION FOR REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. COUNCILPERSON JESTER. I, INDICATED INTEREST IN THIS. I WAS CHAIR OF THE DOWNTOWN TASK FORCE, WHICH IS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD FOR SOME TIME. AND SO I WORKED DOWN HERE, SO IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS A NATURAL INTEREST AS FAR AS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING WITH THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW. OKAY. I PUT MY NAME FOR IT. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. I, I, I HEAR, COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER'S INTEREST. I WONDER IF, SINCE THERE'S IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE ENTIRETY OF THE NOMINATION SET, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT WE ARE ARE BOTH INTERESTED IN, IF SHE'S INTERESTED IN TERM ONE, THEN I'D BE WILLING TO, STEP ASIDE, IF SHE WAS INTERESTED IN LETTING ME BE ON THE RTC. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX, COUNCILPERSON JESTER, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE WANTING TO NEGOTIATE. HOWEVER, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL IS SOMETHING I'M VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, THEN I'M JUST GOING TO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO, BECK, BE APPOINTED TO THE TURFS. BUT ANYONE ELSE, ANY OTHER NOMINEES SEEING NONE. OKA. TWO IS TAKEN. OKAY SO WE WILL NOWSIDERING THE OPENINGS ON THE DENTON COUNTY BODIES. THE DENTON COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH LEADERSHIP TEAM HAS ONE POSITION WITH A TERM ENDING JUNE 30TH. IT'S CURRENTLY EXPIRED. THE NEW TERM WOULD BE ENDING JUNE 30TH OF 2026. AND THE POSITION IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY MAYOR HUDSPETH. HE HAS INDICATED HIS INTEREST IN SERVING ON THIS BOARD. I DID NOT RECEIVE INTEREST FROM ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. OKAY OH. YOU GOT TO PULL THAT DOWN. SO I CAN SEE ANY DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. YEAH, I JUST SUPPORT THE MAYOR CONTINUING ON IN THESE POSITIONS. IF HE WANTS TO BE IN THEM. OKAY NEXT. THE DENTON COUNTY HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP TEAM HAS ONE POSITION OPEN WITH A TERM ENDING JUNE 9TH OF 2026. THE POSITION WAS OCCUPIED BY MAYOR HUDSPETH, AND MAYOR HUDSPETH HAS INDICATED HIS INTEREST IN SERVING ON THIS BOARD. ANY DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. MR. MAYOR, DO YOU FOR THESE VARIOUS THINGS TO STREAMLINE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THEM? I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING YOU TO DO THAT. YEAH. NO, I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. I HAVE YES. A SIMPLE ANSWER, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, I THINK THAT'S THE LAST ONE THAT, THAT, THAT HAS ME ON IT. WE'LL GO TO THE OTHERS. THE DENTON COUNTY WORKFORCE SUCCESS LEADERSHIP TEAM HAS ONE POSITION OPEN WITH A TERM ENDING OF JUNE 30TH, 2025. THIS POSITION WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY CHRIS WATTS, COUNCIL MEMBERS BIRD AND BECK HAVE NOTICED THEIR INTEREST IN SERVING ON THIS BOARD. OKAY, DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE I AM, INTERESTED IN BEING ON THAT POSITION. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE NOTEWORTHY OF THE DIRECTION THAT I'M TAKING IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE TYPES OF BOARDS THAT I'VE CHOSEN TO BE ON. SO, JUST CONNECTING 
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THAT ONE ALONG WITH THE OTHERS THAT I'M ON, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR THE CITY. OKAY REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO, IF COUNCILOR BIRD IS INTERESTED IN THAT POSITION, THEN I WILL WITHDRAW MY NAME. OKAY TEXAS DCTA. THAT'S NOT UP, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? YEAH, THIS WOULD. SO THE DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COMMITTEE MUST BE THE MAYOR OR ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL. MAYOR HUDSPETH IS CURRENTLY SERVING OKAY, ANY DISCUSSION? I KNOW, THERE'S A STANDING COMMENT FROM REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY ALL RIGHT, SO DISCOVER DENTON, WE'RE GOING TO PASS OVER AS WE'VE ADDRESSED IT PREVIOUSLY. THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL HAS TWO POSITIONS IN NEED OF APPOINTMENT. THE PRIMARY MEMBER POSITION WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY CHRIS WATTS. THE ALTERNATE MEMBER POSITION WAS OCCUPIED BY MAYOR HUDSPETH. THE TERM RUNS FROM JULY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2026. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JESTER AND BECK HAVE INDICATED THEIR INTEREST AS THE PRIMARY MEMBER. MAYOR HUDSPETH HAS INDICATED HIS INTEREST AS THE ALTERNATE. ALL RIGHT, IF WE CAN PULL THAT DOWN. YEAH SO, HERE AGAIN, MY THOUGHT IS THE VALUE IN COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER IS SHE'S JUST NEWLY ELECTED, AND THE OTHER VALUE IS THERE'S 45 PEOPLE ON THIS BODY. AND BY THE TIME YOU RISE THROUGH THE RANKS, IT TAKES SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. SO TO HAVE SOMEONE STRAIGHT AWAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, TO, TO RISE INTO THE RANK OF A LEADERSHIP ROLE ON THAT, THAT COMMITTEE I THINK IS GREAT. AND, I JUST THINK IT'S A SMART MOVE FOR THE CITY TO GET IN THIS SEAT OF LEADERSHIP THERE. AND THAT TAKES TIME WITH SOMETHING THAT SIZE AND SO SHE HAS, IF SHE CHOOSES TO DO SO, 11 YEARS IN FRONT OF HER AND, AND SO THAT THAT TO ME, IS, IS COMPELLING SO THAT THAT'S WHO I WOULD SUGGEST. BUT I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. COUNCILPERSON JESTER, THIS ONE HAS THE MOST INTEREST FOR ME. I WENT TO THE LAST MEETING. I HAVE CALLED AND SPOKEN WITH SOME PEOPLE THAT I KNEW PRIOR TO RUNNING FOR COUNCIL. THAT ARE AFFILIATED OR ON THIS, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ASPECTS OF THE REGULATORY AND LEGAL COMPLIANCE, THE LARGE BUDGETS I THINK THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN MY WHEELHOUSE AND HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH, AS, AS DO OTHERS ON THIS COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I THINK THAT, THE GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS BACKGROUND THAT I HAVE, IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA COULD ALSO BE VERY HELPFUL IN DENTON'S SEAT AT THE TABLE. BEING ABLE TO BE HEARD, BEING ABLE TO NETWORK. 
          AND SO, I DO HAVE A VERY STRONG INTEREST AND WOULD VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE SUPPORT FOR THIS POSITION. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO. 
          WHILE I'M STILL INTERESTED IN THIS, IF THE NOMINATION GOES FORWARD FOR ME IN TIERS ONE, THEN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COUNCILOR JESTER, BEING IN THIS, BUT I AM STILL INTERESTED IN IF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT BE READ AS I'M NOT INTERESTED. BUT I'M WILLING TO STEP ASIDE IF THAT'S THE WAY THE JUGGLING BALLS WORK OUT. I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY ANYONE ELS? OKAY. TAKES US TO THE SHELTER. YES. THE DENTON COMMUNITY SHELTER LOOP 288 ADVISORY BOARD HAS ONE POSITION OPEN WITH A TERM ENDING OF APRIL 30TH, 2026. THIS. THE POSITION IS CURRENTLY VACANT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER BECK HAD INDICATED HIS INTEREST IN SERVING ON THIS BOARD. OKAY 
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DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. YEAH, I JUST I APPRECIATE THE SECRETARY SAYING THAT. I JUST WANTED TO VERBALLY AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE SOME INTEREST IN THIS BOARD, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, HEAR OTHER PEOPLE NOMINATED OR WHATEVER. OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. GO FORWARD. THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THESE ARE THE COMMITTEES THAT WHERE NO ACTION IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED. OKAY. ANY ANY QUESTIONS IF I MAY. OKAY JUST QUICKLY, I WAS ADVISED, TO MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER'S POINT THE FULL TERM COMMENCED IN OCTOBER OF 2022. YOU FILLED YOU WERE APPOINTED AUGUST 15TH OF 2023 TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME IN. SO I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. SO THE TERM COMMENCED AT THAT STAGE, BUT HE WASN'T ACTUALLY PUT ON IT. IT WAS A IT WAS LEFT VACANT WHEN WITH JESSE DAVIS'S DEPARTURE FROM THE BOARD. FROM THE COUNCIL. OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. CITY MANAGER, LAUREN, IS THIS TAKING THE PLACE OF THE STAFF MEMBER THAT'S ON THERE? NO STAFF MEMBERS ALREADY ON THERE. THE STAFF MEMBERS ARE ON THERE. OKAY THAT'S WHAT I JUST DIDN'T SEE BECAUSE IT SAYS TWO REGARDING THE SHELTER BOARD SPECIFICALLY. YES SO REGARDING THE SHELTER BOARD, YEAH. BECAUSE ON THE OTHER ONES, YOU NOTE, IF IT'S STAFF, I THINK. YEAH. LIKE SHE'S LISTED ON THE COUNTY HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP TEAM. THE FOR THE DENTON COMMUNITY SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD, YOU'RE ASKING. YES, I DID NOT HAVE INDICATION THAT THIS WAS A VACANT STAFF POSITION. SO COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD IS SITTING IN THAT POSITION. IF THIS IS OKAY, I JUST WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S A STAFF MEMBER THAT SERVES ON THIS AS WELL. AND IF IT'S NOT LISTED, I'M IT'S NOT IN THE BACKUP. THAT'S OKAY. IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PUT IT IN A FRIDAY REPORT AND JUST EARMARK IT FOR WE MAY MAY NEED TO CONSIDER THAT REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. YEAH. IF THAT TURNS OUT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE STAFF POSITION, I'M. THAT'S FINE. I WILL WITHDRAW MY NAME FROM CONSIDERATION IF THAT NEEDS TO BE STAFFED. OKAY WE'LL TALK THROUGH IT. ALL RIGHT. AND SO ANYTHING, LAUREN, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEEDED TO GO OVER? NO THANK YOU, MAYOR. PERFECT OKAY. 
          OKAY. GREAT. YEAH. SO WE'RE ALL GOOD. NO, NO. YEAH. SO THANK YOU. THEN THAT CONCLUDES THAT TAKES US. WELL, LET ME CALL THE CLOSED SESSION AND WE'LL TAKE A BREAK. THE COUNCIL WILL NOW AT 
          [1. Closed Meeting:]
4:11 P.M, CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE CLOSED MEETING. ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING ITEM A ID 241368. DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072. ITEM B, ID 241371. DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072 AND ITEM C, ID 24148 FOR DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072. 
          CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071. SO LET'S TAKE ABOUT A 20 MINUTE BREAK. WE'LL BE BACK AT
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