Sep 24, 2024 City Council on 2024-09-24 2:00 PM (Special Called)

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COUNCIL IS NOW AT 2:44 P.M. RECONVENED FROM CLOSED SESSION AND NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding Audit Project 041 - Development Planning: Application Processing. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

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BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS AND DIRECTION.

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU MADISON, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT. THE AS PART OF THE AUDIT PROCESS, I NOTICED WE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS COMMUNICATION AND SOME, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PROVIDED THAT, WHILE WE MENTIONED COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC, WAS THAT PART OF IT? WAS ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT YOU SAID, PART OF THE AUDIT PROCESS? HOW HOW MUCH CITIZEN AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WERE PART OF YOUR AUDIT, THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT DID NOT ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF THE AUDIT. WE JUST EVALUATED THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES. I MEANT THE LATTER. OKAY. WHEN YOU AUDITED THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, DID YOU AUDIT THE AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT THE DEVELOPER AND STAFF ENGAGED IN WITH THE COMMUNITY? SO SORRY FOR ALL THE REDUNDANCY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, YES, WE BASICALLY EVALUATED WHAT OUR, THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT PRACTICES WERE COMPARED TO BEST BENCHMARK CITIES AND OTHER INDUSTRY STANDARDS. AND WE FOUND THAT GENERALLY, THE CITY WAS DOING WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS DOING, IF NOT MORE. THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YEAH, I THINK IT DID. I NOT NOT SO MUCH FOR YOU, BUT FOR THE FOR THE STAFF IN GENERAL. IN MY TIME ON COUNCIL, I'VE SEEN THAT THE MORE WE HAVE IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE, THE HIGHER SUCCESS RATE OF PROJECT HAS EVEN IF IT DOES POTENTIALLY SLOW THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO IF SUCCESS RATE TO FINAL OUTCOME IS THE METRIC, THEN I COULD SEE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CRITERIA IN FUTURE. IN TERMS OF DIRECTION, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT MADISON PROVIDED. SO FOR ME PERSONALLY AND ISR IS FINE. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE? THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THE ISR. I GOT A CALL FROM A CONSTITUENT YESTERDAY WHO WHO IS VERY INTERESTED IN THE HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THE SIGNS POSTED, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THIS WAS TRUE OR NOT, BUT YOU YOU MAY KNOW BY THIS POINT IS THE QR CODE THE ONLY WAY TO FIND OUT WHEN THE HEARING IS, DO WE NOT POST THE DATE OF THE HEARING? I BELIEVE THAT THE DATE IS NOT PART OF THE CURRENT SIGNAGE STANDARD, SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE QR CODE TO FIND THAT. BUT THE QR CODE HAS NOT BEEN A REQUIREMENT ON THE SIGN UNTIL VERY RECENTLY. SO. SO THAT UNTIL RECENTLY, THERE WAS NO WAY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE DATE WAS. I MEAN, OTHER THAN DOING SOME DIGGING OR CALLING. SO I'D JUST SAY THAT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE AN EMINENTLY REASONABLE, EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD COMMUNICATE WHEN THE HEARING IS SUPPOSED TO BE, WHEN WE SAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A HEARING. YEAH. WHAT ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. AND THEN ONE, I THINK THE QR CODE IS A IS A CHEAP, QUICK, EASY WAY TO INFORM PEOPLE. AND I'M AND I'M HAPPY WITH AN INFORMAL REPORT REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE I'M HAPPY WITH THE INFORMAL REPORT. BUT I HAD A I HAD A QUESTION, A NAGGING QUESTION WHEN THOSE SINCE WE ARE KNOW THAT WE ARE A HIGH RENTAL COMMUNITY. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT MULTIFAMILY WHEN THAT INFORMATION GOES OUT TO THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARE A SOMETHING IS COMING UP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SIGNAGE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, IS THAT INFORMATION SENT TO EACH

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WOULD YOU ALL DO THAT FOR US, PLEASE, AND KIND OF HELP US, MAYBE UP OUR GAME FOR ENGAGEMENT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WAITING FOR THE EMAIL TELLING US HOW TERRIBLE WE ARE, THAT MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL THING THAT WE COULD DO. WELL, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE YOU HAVE DIRECTION, RIGHT? YES. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the City of Denton Public Safety Flock Safety License Plate Recognition Program. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CHRIS SMITH. I'M A LIEUTENANT WITH DENTON POLICE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME SOME TIME TO SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR FLOCK SAFETY CAMERA PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS. SO THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO COMPARE IS THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE MISSION STATEMENT FROM FLOCK SAFETY AND THE CONVERGENCE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE IDEA OF REDUCING CRIME SHAPING A SAFER FUTURE AND IMPROVING THE SAFETY AND THE COMMUNITY OF DENTON HELPING US HOLD OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE. SO I'M GOING TO USE SOME ABBREVIATIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION AND JUST SO EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THEM REAL QUICK. CJIS IS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SERVICES, THE COMPUTER SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO TRACK. AND, DATA SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO STORE SENSITIVE INFORMATION. LPR IS LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AND ALPR IS AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION. THE NCIC NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION CENTER IS A COMPUTER DATABASE THAT WE MIGHT SEARCH FOR INDIVIDUAL OR ARTICLE RECORDS, LIKE A VEHICLE OR ANOTHER OBJECT, WITH A UNIQUE SERIAL NUMBER. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NICK MC IS THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN, AND THEN AWS IS AMAZON WEB SERVICE, WHICH IS A CLOUD BASED DATA STORAGE CENTER THAT IS CJIS COMPLIANT. SO THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO STORE SENSITIVE INFORMATION. SO OUR VISION, AS AN ORGANIZATION AND WITH THIS PROJECT IS TO USE TECHNOLOGY AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER. WE WANT TO CAPTURE AND DISTRIBUTE OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE TO THE RIGHT USERS WITH ENOUGH SPEED THAT THAT MAKES THAT INFORMATION ACTIONABLE IN THE MOMENT VERSUS AFTER THE FACT. WE WANT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT AND GROW TRUST AND LEGITIMACY AS AN ORGANIZATION. WE WANT TO DO THAT BY BEING EFFECTIVE AND RESPONSIVE, AND THEN WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR OWN EFFICIENCY IN RESPONSE TO CRIME AND IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S OUR VISION WITH THE PROJECT. SO WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS UP NOW, FLOCK HAS HAD A RECENT CHANGE IN PRICING. THEY

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ALTHOUGH WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY, ACTUAL SQUAD CARS OUT ROLLING, GENERATING, LICENSE PLATE DATA AT THIS TIME. SO THE PICTURE ON THERE IS A PICTURE OF THE VIGILANT CAMERA SYSTEM THAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON A COUPLE OF OUR, OUR SQUADS THAT ARE STILL IN SERVICE. SO WHAT FLOCK SAFETY DOES IS THEY PROVIDE US WITH OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE FROM FIXED LOCATIONS THAT IMAGE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE FLOCK DATABASE, AS IT AS IT CAPTURES DATA, IT PROVIDES ALL THE FLOCK WILL PROVIDE ALL THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE CAMERAS. WE'RE LEASING THEM. SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CITY STAFF CAN JUST FOCUS ON USING THE INFORMATION TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE. SO IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE FREE. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HARDWIRED INTO OUR OUR UTILITY POLES OR, TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS SOLELY SOLAR POWERED. IT HAS A CELLULAR INTERNET CONNECTION. IT'S ALL CONTAINED IN THE UNIT. AND LIKE I SAID, FLOCK WILL DO THE MAINTENANCE FOR US, WHAT THE CAMERAS DO IS THEY PROVIDE REAL TIME ALERTS, LIKE IF THERE'S A SILVER ALERT, A MISSING ELDERLY PERSON, IF THERE'S A AMBER ALERT, IF THERE'S A BLUE ALERT, WHERE THERE'S THREAT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, ANY OFFICER LOGGED INTO THE FLOCK DATABASE WILL GET REAL TIME ALERTS THAT AT THAT FIXED LOCATION WHERE THE CAMERA WAS A VEHICLE THAT HAD BEEN ENTERED ONTO A HOT LIST BY THEIR LICENSE PLATE NUMBER, HAD PASSED BY THAT CAMERA, AND THEN WE'D GET THIS STILL IMAGE RIGHT HERE OF THE VEHICLE WITH THE LICENSE PLATE, WE CAN ALSO ENTER STOLEN CARS. WE CAN ENTER, FUGITIVES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SPECIFIC VEHICLES. SO IT GIVES US THE A MUCH GREATER OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND REAL TIME TO SOMETHING VERSUS AFTER THE FACT, THIS IS ALSO AN ETHICAL SOLUTION FOR US. THERE'S NO PEOPLE. FOCUS. YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT IMAGE, AND IF YOU LOOK REALLY CLOSE, YOU CAN TELL THAT THERE'S A PERSON IN THERE BECAUSE THE BRAKE LIGHTS ARE ON. SO THERE'S PROBABLY A PERSON IN THERE AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SILHOUETTE OF, OF A HEAD, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY TELL US ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THERE'S A PERSON IN THERE. THERE'S NO FACIAL RECOGNITION COMPONENTS TO THIS SOFTWARE. THIS IS NOT A RED LIGHT CAMERA. THERE'S NO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT TO THIS SOFTWARE. IT IS JUST PURELY OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE. A VEHICLE WITH THIS LICENSE PLATE WAS AT THIS FIXED LOCATION AT THIS DATE. AT THIS TIME. SO WHAT IT IS LIKE I SAID, IT'S STILL PHOTOS. IT'S LICENSE PLATE

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THE FIRST ONE WAS, WITH MY PATROL TEAM WHEN I WAS A NIGHT SHIFT PATROL LIEUTENANT, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN, GO INTO THE 7-ELEVEN AT, OAK AND AVENUE B RIGHT BY UNT CAMPUS, LEFT HIS CAR RUNNING KEYS IN THE CAR. ONE OF OUR LOCAL OFFENDERS HOPPED IN AND TOOK IT FOR A JOYRIDE, WE WERE ABLE TO USE UNT CAMERAS BECAUSE UNT ALREADY HAS FLOCK CAMERAS DEPLOYED, TO TRACK THE CAR'S MOVEMENT UNTIL IT LEFT THE CAMPUS AREA. THEN THE CAR SHOWED BACK UP IN CORINTH, AND WE SAW THAT THE CAR WAS ON TEASLEY APPROACHING THE CITY LIMITS. SO WE POSTED SOME OFFICERS DOWN BY GUYER HIGH SCHOOL. THEY INTERCEPTED THE CAR AS IT CAME INTO OUR CITY, PULLED HIM OVER ON A TRAFFIC STOP, GOT THE PERSON IN CUSTODY. THERE WAS NO DAMAGE TO THE CAR. THE VEHICLE WAS RECOVERED THAT DAY, GIVEN TO THE OWNER OF THAT DAY, PRETTY BIG DEAL IF YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THAT CAR AND YOU JUST WANTED A COKE FROM THE 7-ELEVEN. OUR DETECTIVES USED A CAMERAS IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE TO LOCATE A FUGITIVE THAT HAD AN AGGRAVATED KIDNAPING WARRANT AND A WARRANT FOR CONTINUOUS VIOLENCE AGAINST THE FAMILY, BOTH FELONY WARRANTS THAT WAS AT A PARK IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE. SO JUST THE ASSOCIATION OF THAT LICENSE PLATE TO THAT WANTED FUGITIVE LED TO THAT LED THEM TO THE RIGHT PLACE TO MAKE AN ARREST. AND I'M SURE YOU GUY, REMEMBER AT THE START OF MAY, WHEN WE HAD OVER 100 CAR BURGLARIES AND IN ONE WEEKEND, THAT CASE WAS BROKEN BECAUSE A VEHICLE MATCHING A LOOSE DESCRIPTION PASSED BY A UNT FLOCK CAMERA, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A PLATE TURN OUT. THE CAR WAS STOLEN. WE USE THAT INFORMATION TO IDENTIFY A SUSPECT AND CLEAR OUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THOSE OFFENSES. SO, AND THIS IS ALL USING OTHER AGENCIES DATA BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GENERATING OUR OWN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FLOCK CAMERAS IN OUR CITY. SO WE'RE WANTING TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR GENERATE DATA IN OUR OWN CITY TO GENERATE MORE OF THESE STORIES. BUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME. THIS HAPPENED IN ARGYLE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, ARGYLE WAS ABLE TO USE LPR TO LOCATE A SILVER ALERT FROM THE STATE OF LOUISIANA. ELDERLY GENTLEMAN WITH DEMENTIA THAT FROM THE STATE OF LOUISIANA THAT THOUGHT HE WAS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM HIS HOME AND HE WAS IN ARGYLE, TEXAS, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WAY TO PUT A VALUE TO BEING ABLE TO LOCATE THAT PERSON AND RETURN THEM TO THEIR FAMILY. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY I PURSUE THIS PROFESSION IS TO HELP PEOPLE THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE, WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY BE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE HE'S AT OR HOW TO GET HOME. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TECHNOLOGY FOR US. LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT NEW FLOCK SAFETY ITSELF HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2017. THESE ARE ALL THE AGENCIES IN DFW THAT ARE ALREADY USING FLOCK, AND THE ONES IN LIGHT BLUE ARE THE ONES IN DENTON COUNTY THAT ARE ALREADY USING FLOCK. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP AND MAKE SURE OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND OUR EFFICIENCY IN DOING OUR JOB IS COMPARABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES. SO OUR NEXT STEP, IN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE TO START GETTING THE EASEMENT PERMISSIONS TO MOUNT CAMERAS TO POLLS, MOVE INTO THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, AND THEN PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT AND DO SOME TRAINING AND DEPLOY THE CAMERAS. SO WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED FROM FROM YOU IS A DIRECTION ON THIS. THE OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD OR TO NOT APPROVE. AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS AND DIRECTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR. GOOD AFTERNOON.

HI AFTERNOON, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO NOT? DENTON PD DOES NOT HAVE LICENSE PLATE READERS CURRENTLY ON THE IN THE CARS. NO, THEY'RE THE HARDWARE ON THEM. HAS GONE OUT OF DATE, AND WE'RE MOVING TO A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAT ONE OF OUR ISSUES WITH VIGILANT IS THEY DO SHARE INFORMATION OR HISTORICALLY HAVE SHARED INFORMATION WITH PRIVATE ENTITIES LIKE REPO DRIVERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO OUR INFORMATION IS OUR INFORMATION. OKAY, AND DO THE CAMERAS DO THE CAMERAS SIMPLY REPORT THAT THE CAR WENT THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, OR IS THERE A VIDEO? IT'S A STILL PHOTO. SO THERE'S NO LIVE NO LIVE VIDEO. IT'S JUST THAT PHOTO ON THAT

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BUT WE HAVE A LARGE PROBLEM THAT THE STATE IS TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THE FICTITIOUS PLATES AS WELL. SO YEAH, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE A SPECIFIC AREA THAT THAT CAR FREQUENTS OR SOMETHING. HOW IS THE CAMERA THEN ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT DIRECTION THAT THAT CAR IS GOING? BECAUSE WE KNOW BY ITS POSITION WHAT DIRECTION IT'S FACING. SO IF IT'S FACING EAST ON LOOP 288 AND THAT'S THE EAST FACING ONE VERSUS THE WEST FACING ONE, THEN WE KNOW WHEN THAT IMAGE WAS TAKEN THE CAR WAS EASTBOUND OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE RANGE OF THE CAMERAS, THAT I'M NOT CLEAR ON OKAY. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO GO FROM THIS BLOCK TO THE NEXT BLOCK. NO, IT'S SET ON A SPECIFIC COLLECTION POINT. SO IT CAN GET THE CLEAREST POSSIBLE IMAGE OF THE VEHICLE, MAKE MODEL AND LICENSE PLATE. LAST QUESTION, I PROMISE. YES, SIR. IS FLOC AN ACRONYM? NO. FLOC SAFETY IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY I SEE. OKAY, I'M THE SOONER THE BETTER, I APPROVE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. I HAVE SORT OF TWO, EDUCATIONAL QUESTIONS AND THEN MAYBE A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH QUESTION, THE FIRST ONE, I'LL JUMP OFF OF A COUNCILOR HOLLAND'S QUESTION PROCEDURALLY, IS IT IS IT GETTING SORT OF ONE FIELD OF ONE CAR OR YOU'RE GETTING FIVE CARS AT ONCE AND THEN IT'S PARSING THEM INTO ITS DATABASE AS FIVE PIECES OF DATA, OR HOW AND ARE YOU GETTING EVERYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH WHEN IT HITS THAT. SO IF 20 CARS COME THROUGH, 20 CARS, GO INTO THE DATABASE. SO THE IMAGES THAT WE SEE IN THE DATABASE ARE GOING TO BE THAT INDIVIDUAL CAR. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAW. IT'S GOING TO PARCEL OUT EACH CAR THAT IT CAPTURES INTO THAT INDIVIDUAL IMAGE. OKAY. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE SPEEDS THAT WE'RE WE'RE AT IN TOWN, WE'RE GOING TO CAPTURE EVERY VEHICLE THAT COMES THROUGH. BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES THROUGH AT 100 MILES AN HOUR, MAYBE NOT. MAYBE NOT. OKAY. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME, AN ALTERNATIVE VENDOR WITH AN ALTERNATIVE EQUIPMENT IS FLOCK THE ONLY VENDOR OF THIS TYPE. YOU HAD A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT WERE ALL SUBSCRIBED IN OUR AREA. IS, IS THIS REALLY THE ONLY VENDOR OR ARE THERE ALTERNATIVE VENDORS? AND IT GOES TO, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE CHOOSING FLOCK VERSUS AN ALTERNATIVE IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE? GOOD QUESTION. SO FLOCK IS ONE OF THE ONLY VENDORS OUT THERE THAT HAS AN INFRASTRUCTURE FREE SYSTEM, LIKE WE HAVE. THEIR FLOCK IS ALSO A SOLE SOURCE IN THE SENSE THAT IT HAS A SEAMLESS TIE IN TO AXON AND EVIDENCE.COM, WHICH THE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY HEAVILY PARTNERED WITH FOR DIGITAL EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT. OKAY. AND THE LAST ONE THAT MIGHT REQUIRE MORE DISCUSSION IS, WELL, LET ME JUST SAY AS A STATEMENT, I THINK FISCALLY 30,000, IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE AHEAD, 30,000 VERSUS 36,000, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET THE CAMERAS. THAT'S SORT OF MY ATTITUDE THERE, BUT THEN ON LOCATIONS FOR THE TEN PILOT CAMERAS CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED THAT THESE WERE SOME HIGH CRIME AREAS AND SOME AREAS THEY ALL SEEM TO BE CLUSTERED AROUND GOLDEN TRIANGLE MALL A LITTLE BIT. WHY WHY ARE WE FOCUSING OUR PILOT AREA IN A MORE CONCENTRATED TEN VERSUS A MORE DISTRIBUTED TEN? SO I THINK THAT THESE CAMERAS WOULD HAVE THE BEST SUCCESS FOR US, AND THE KIND OF CRIMES THAT ARE OCCURRING AND DIDN'T CROSSING. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE HOME DEPOT, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MATERIAL THEFT. PEOPLE JUST WALKING OUT LOADING UP A CAR AND GOING, AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A VEHICLE DESCRIPTION. WELL, WE HAVE TIME OF DAY, VEHICLE MAKE AND COLOR AND WE CAN GO INTO FLOCK. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL A PLATE AND THOSE CAMERAS ARE SET UP TO WHERE IF YOU'RE LEAVING THE HOME DEPOT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO LEAVE QUICKLY AND YOU'RE ON A MAIN STREET, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET DETECTED BY THE FLOCK SYSTE.

WALMART, WE'RE OUT THERE PROBABLY 6 TO 7 TIMES A DAY, WALMART, IS A HEAVY CONSUMER OF POLICE SERVICES. AND, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE LOWE'S, WE HAVE BEST BUY, WE HAVE KROGER, ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT BRING PEOPLE IN, AS THE HOLIDAY SEASON APPROACHES, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THESE DEPLOYED AS PEOPLE ARE DOING CHRISTMAS SHOPPING. WE KNOW THAT, PEOPLE FOR VEHICLE CRIMES TARGET CARS, THAT THEY SEE BOX GOODS IN. LIKE YOU JUST HIT WALMART. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO

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BUT WE GENERATE OUR OWN LIST. WE PULL FROM OTHER LISTS. WE ALSO PULL FROM THE STATE. IF SOMETHING IS REPORTED STOLEN. SO, SO BUT MORE ON THE SPEED SIDE OF THINGS. IF SOMEONE IN DENTON SAYS LET'S USE A CURRENT. IT WASN'T IN DENTON, BUT IT'S I'M REAL CURIOUS HOW THIS HAPPENED. SO THE RV, THE $400,000 RV IS STOLEN, RIGHT? AND SO WE INPUT THAT. RIGHT? SO THEY SAY THIS RV IS STOLEN, WE TYPE IT IN AT SOME POINT. BUT IS THAT WHAT'S THAT PROCESS? WHAT'S THE SPEED AT WHICH WE CAN GET IT ON THE LIST TO START. SO ONCE YOU FILL OUT THE CRITERIA AND HIT ENTER, IT'S IN. SO IT'S NOT THE FULL ON DENTON CITY OF DENTON REPORT. IT'S A SEPARATE RIGHT. SO DATA ENTRY WE SO WE HAVE OUR OWN PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO VERIFY. LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO REPORT A VEHICLE STOLEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING TO THE ACTUAL REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE AND NOT A FRIEND WHO BORROWED IT OR, OR WHATNOT. YEAH. I MEAN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PERSON WITH LEGAL STANDING IS ACTUALLY REPORTING IT STOLEN. ONCE THAT'S SATISFIED, WE'LL ENTER IT INTO NCIC CIC, AND THEN WE'LL ENTER IT INTO FLOCK. AND WE CAN WE'RE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH SETTING UP THOSE PERMISSIONS. THE INITIAL MINDSET IS PATROL SUPERVISORS, DISPATCH SUPERVISORS AND INVESTIGATORS AND THEIR SUPERVISORY CHAIN ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE ENTRY ONTO THE HOT LIST TO CAUSE A VEHICLE TO PING. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CRIMINAL THING. IT CAN BE A MISSING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOTS OF MISSING, ENDANGERED PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMPLICATING MEDICAL CONDITIONS OR DEMENTIA. SOME OF THEM HAVE ACCESS TO A

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RIGHT? SO IN PRACTICE, ARE YOU DESTROYING THE DATA OR IS IT A POLICY THAT YOU DON'T SHARE THE INFORMATION? AND IF THEY ARE DESTROYING THE DATA, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT'S NEVER GONE RIGHT. AND IF THEY HAVE LARGE DATABASES, WHICH I PRESUME THEY DO, AND LOTS OF STORAGE, YOU'D HAVE TO OVERWRITE EACH EACH SECTION OF THAT DRIVE TO LEGIT SAY IT'S GONE. AND EVEN THEN IT'S NOT GONE. YOU CAN STILL GET, REMNANTS IF YOU WILL. NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT YOU CAN GET YOU CAN GET DATA FRAGMENTATION FROM THAT. AND SO AND SO I KNOW LIKE AN IPHONE SAYS, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COOPERATE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION VERY DIFFERENT THAN WE'RE DESTROYING ALL DATA, YOU KNOW, OVERWRITING THAT DATA IN OUR IN OUR DATABASE. CAN I INTRODUCE BLAINE PARSON FROM SAFETY? HE CAN PROBABLY HANDLE THAT MUCH BETTER THAN I CAN. SURE YES. NO. FIGURED AS MUCH. AND MAYOR COUNCIL, BLAINE PARSONS, LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY. SO YOU GOT TO BE BEHIND THE MIC. SO THAT OUR MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF FANS CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? OKAY. YES. BLAINE PARSONS, LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM FLOCK SAFETY. I AM GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TO CALL MY COLLEAGUE JONATHAN, WHO WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS QUESTION HERE FOR US. IS THAT IS THAT OKAY WITH MAYOR COUNCIL? YEAH. THAT WORKS. OKAY. GREAT. I'M READY. HEY.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD AFTERNOON. SIR, COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THE QUESTION HERE FROM MAYOR COUNCIL AROUND DATA DELETION POLICY, AFTER THE 30 DAYS OF DATA IS DELETED FROM FROM THE SYSTEM. YES CAN FOLKS HEAR ME? YES. GO RIGHT AHEAD. SO WE ARE CONTRACTUALLY, AS PART OF THE CONTRACT, WE ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO DELETE THE DATA, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, POLICY OR STORAGE. IT'S SECURED IN AWS CLOUD, IT'S COMPARABLE TO WHERE THE FBI STORES THEIR DATA, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED. THAT IS OUR CONTRACT OBLIGATION TO YOU.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE DO. AND SO TO THAT END, YOU HAVE A CHAIN OF CUSTODY TO THAT EFFECT. YES WE DO. WE HAVE AN I.T. DEPARTMENT THAT WE WORK WITH. THEY ARE ALL HIRED UNDER FLOCK, BUT THAT IS STANDARD PRACTICE FOR US ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH YOU ALL, WHICH I THINK IN THIS CASE WILL BE 30 DAYS. SO THAT IS A THAT IS A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT WE DESTROY THE DATA. SO THE YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING. SO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TIMES THAT AGENCIES CAN AGREE TO HOLD THE DATA IS THAT RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN DIFFERENT DIFFERENT AGENCIES HAVE DIFFERENT POLICIES. SOME OF THEM WANT SHORTER PERIODS OF TIME AND SOME OF THEM WANT LONGER. THE STANDARD THAT WE'VE SEEN IS 30 DAYS, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE IS TO DELETE THE DATA ACCORDING TO WHAT YOUR POLICY WILL BE SET TO. RIGHT SO THEN YOU'RE TELLING ME WE HAVE OUR OWN SEPARATE CLOUD OR SOME KIND OF SEGMENTATION OF YOUR BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT BUYING STORAGE ON AWS, YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A ALLOTMENT OF STORAGE, LET'S SAY, AND THEN YOU'RE SEGMENTING THAT PER AGENCY. AND THEN YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU I STILL WE DON'T HAVE TO GO ROUND AND ROUND TODAY. I JUST NEED WHAT I NEED IS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. AND THAT CAN BE OFF THE RECORD. BUT I NEED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DESTRUCTION PROCESS. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANSWER ABOUT STAFFING, BUT I ASK A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION, AND IT'S A TERM OF ART WHEN IT COMES TO, THAT CHAIN OF CUSTODY OF THE DATA, RIGHT? DATA THAT COMES IN, YOU HAVE THIS PERSON SIGNED FOR THE DATA, AUTHORIZE THE DATA. THEN IT WENT TO THIS PERSON, THIS PERSON, YOU KNOW, FROM A FORENSIC STANDPOINT THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO NOT NOT TODAY. BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS. YEAH I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW HAVE A HAVE A LETTER FROM MY DEPARTMENT BE SENT AS A FOLLOW UP. TO GET TO THOSE FACTS, BUT YES, FROM A CONTRACTUAL PERSPECTIVE, WE, WE, WE PARTNER WITH AWS CLOUD. WE STORE THAT FOR YOU FOR YOU. BUT THE DATA IS YOURS. AND CONTRACTUALLY, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DELETE IT. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. YES AND THEN SO THANK

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SO YEAH, WE'LL GET YOU SOME DOCUMENTATION. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. GREAT PRESENTATION. YEAH. THANK YOU SIR, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM C. YES SIR. WHAT ON WHAT? THIS ITEM FOR THE CITY MANAGER. GO RIGHT AHEAD, MR. CITY MANAGER, I THINK THIS HIGHLIGHTS SOMETHING THAT DOCTOR BECK HAS RAISED IN THE PAST, WE'RE NOT CRYING ABOUT $36,000, BUT MY HOPE IS THAT WE HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE GRANT WRITERS. CAN CAN DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND SEE IF THEY CAN FIND GRANT MONEY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I THINK THIS IS RIGHT FOR SOME OF THE GRANTS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. OBVIOUSLY AGAIN, DON'T MIND SPENDING ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE NEED TO KEEP FOLKS SAFE AND HELP WITH DATA SHARING. BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT I THAT I THINK WE MIGHT BE LEAVING ON THE TABLE. I KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM HAS BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST, SO THIS MIGHT BE THAT OPPORTUNITY. THANKS, SIR. OKAY,

[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: 1. Request to create a new quarterly program for staff to engage with residents at their homes to increase resident engagement. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW YOU'RE READY. I APPRECIATE THAT EVERY WEEK, COLLEAGUES, I RISE TO YOU TODAY TALKING ABOUT COMING, BRINGING THIS THIS, THIS PROGRAM BEFORE YOU AGAIN. FOR ME, THIS IS ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY AND ACCESS. WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE IN THE CITY WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACCESS MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE CITY WHO DON'T KNOW WHERE CITY HALL IS.

SO THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT I'VE BUILT WHILE ON COUNCIL, I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING IN TEXAS, PARTICULARLY SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN AUSTIN AND ALSO IN CEDAR HILL. WHAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR IS TO GIVE STAFF THE TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM THAT HAS A VARIETY THAT HAS, STAFF BROKE IT UP INTO SMALL PODS AND IDEALLY, THOSE SMALL PODS WOULD BREAK UP ONE SATURDAY, A QUARTER, AND THEY WOULD GO TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. WE'D KNOCK ON DOORS OF RESIDENTS AND SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THEIR LIFE IN DENTON BETTER. THIS IS GOES TO THE CORE FUNCTION OF I BELIEVE OUR JOB. OUR JOB IS TO MEET OUR RESIDENTS NEEDS. AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AT THEIR FRONT DOORS. THOSE OF US WHO HAVE RUN FOR OFFICE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BLOCK WALKING, OF KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I THINK THAT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE DONE CONSISTENTLY OVER THE YEARS, THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR AT THE DOOR, THAT INFORMATION IS NOT GOING TO BE COMMUNICATED TO THE ENGAGED IN THAT. IT'S NOT GOING TO COME THROUGH AN EMAIL OR A PHONE CALL OR SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGE. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING OUR MESSAGE AS A CITY DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE'S DOORS, SO AN EXAMPLE OF THIS, WE COULD STAFF COULD ASSEMBLE A TEAM OF SOMEONE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY, SOMEONE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, SOMEONE FROM WATER UTILITIES, AND THEY COULD GO KNOCK ON PEOPLE'S DOORS. BE

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THAT'S A SATURDAY MORNING FOR FOUR HOURS. THIS PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY IN OPERATION. A SIMILAR PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY IN OPERATION IN CEDAR HILL. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IN CEDAR HILL, COUNCIL MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM 100%. COUNCIL MEMBERS TO JOIN OUR STAFF MEMBERS TO GO AND MEET RESIDENTS WHERE THEY ARE. I JUST HAPPEN TO THINK THAT'S OUR JOB. AND I ENCOURAGE US TO GIVE THIS A LOOK. ANY ANYONE. GET THERE. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. IT'S INTERESTING THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE ALREADY DONE IT. I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR HOW THAT WORKS AND HOW THEY FIT IT INTO ALL THE OTHER DUTIES. I'M CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN HEARING STAFF'S RESPONSE IN THE ISR. OKAY ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT TWO? YEAH, I THINK SINCE ALMOST, OR ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING THROUGH AN ISR, AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEIR PROGRAMS MIGHT WORK AND THE EFFECTIVENESS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO I'M SUPPORTIVE. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. YOU KNOW, ODDLY ENOUGH, THIS IS THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT I STUMBLED OVER WITH MADISON IN REGARDS TO ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND I FORGOT THAT THIS WAS ON THE LIST OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. SO APPARENTLY I WOULD WANT TO AGREE WITH THIS TO SEE IF THIS IS A PROCESS THAT COULD WORK FOR US. AND JUST CONNECTING BACK TO THAT, THAT KIND OF CRAZY QUESTION THAT I ASKED EARLIER.

SO I'M GLAD IT CAME THROUGH. THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE, I'LL TAKE MY MINUTE TO SAY HOW DANGEROUS THIS IS, AND I JUST WANT STAFF TO KNOW I TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUS, AND I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE FOR THAT REASON. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN SOMEONE'S HOME. WE'RE COMING OFF OF TWO WEEKS OF DEATH THREATS AT THE SHELTER, AND SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE CITY THAT THEN IF THAT QUARTER ROLLS AROUND AND THAT'S YOUR TIME TO GO OUT, THAT'S A THAT'S AN ISSUE, POLICE AREN'T THERE. AND THEN AND THEN WHAT'S LEFT? IF YOU DO THE RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF, THE CITY THAT'S MENTIONED, THE POLICE GO OUT AS WELL. AND SO AND NOT TO MENTION THE STAFFING ISSUES WE HAVE, AND I'M JUST FOCUSED ON, SAFETY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO STAFF'S I WOULD ASK IN MY LAST LITTLE BIT HERE THAT STAFF PROVIDE THE DATA OF ALL THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES, FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT FESTIVALS, JUST WE'RE GETTING A MOUNTAIN OF DATA BACK FROM CITIZENS AND MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THE CITY WILL NOW AT 3:38 P.M,

[1. Closed Meeting:]

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CLOSED MEETING, AND CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC HEARING(S) WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M., AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

[A. Consider nominations/appointments to the City’s Boards, Commissions, and Committees: Board of Ethics, Health & Building Standards Commission, Historic Landmark Commission, Parks, Recreation & Beautification Board, Planning and Zoning Commission, Public Art Committee, Sustainability Framework Advisory Committee, and Zoning Board of Adjustment.]

LILLIAN OH, OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, LET ME, SO WE'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR EVERYONE, BUT FOR THE TWO THAT WERE CALLED. SO. BUT FOR THE TWO NAMES THAT WERE MENTIONED, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. SO MOVED REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SIX ZERO. TAKES US TO THE FIRST NAME THAT WAS EXCLUDED IN ORDER IS. LET ME GET THERE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, LILLIAN

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AND SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS NOMINATION AND I LEAVE IT TO THE VOTERS TO HOLD THE NOMINEE ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO. AND IF THEY DON'T, EITHER WAY, IT'S NOT MY JOB TO POLICE THOSE THINGS. ABSENT ANY HARD FACTS THAT WHY I SHOULDN'T. SO AND I WILL NOTE THAT SHE MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA SET OUT BY THIS COUNCIL IN THE ORDINANCE. AND SO SHE HAS SHE DESERVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. MAYOR, I DO NOT KNOW THIS NOMINEE, I KNOW I'M PRESUMING THAT THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE MADE MADE THE MOTION FOR THIS ONE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HER. SO SO I WILL RESPECT MY COLLEAGUE. YEAH NO.

AND JUST TO HAVE A CLEAR RECORD. IT IS COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER'S NOMINEE AND SHE WAS A CANDIDATE WHEN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES THIS LAST ELECTION. AND SHE SERVED IN THE COMMUNITY A NUMBER OF THE WAYS. BUT MOST RECENTLY THAT'S THAT'S THE AFFILIATION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE IS THIS TO SPEAK AGAIN? YEAH. I MEAN, JUST, TO HELP COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVEN'T MADE ACQUAINTANCE OF THE NOMINEE, YES, SHE DID RECENTLY RUN. I SUPPORTED HER THEN. I SUPPORTED HER NOW AS FOR BEING IN PUBLIC SERVICE, SHE HAS SERVED ON THE POLICE ADVISORY BOARD. SHE'S A COMMUNITY LEADER. SHE'S CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS, I WOULD JUST SAY SHE'S A HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND TALENTED LEADER. AND I THINK SHE'LL BRING A REALLY VALUABLE PERSPECTIVE TO PNC. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREE. PASSES SIX ZERO TAKES US TO THE NEXT. AND THAT IS, TO THE LIBRARY BOARD. DEBBIE SKAGGS IS THE NOMINEE LOOKING FOR A MOTIO. IS THERE A SECOND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR? SO I'M SORRY. I'LL MOVE. JUST. I PUSHED THE BUTTON, BUT I DIDN'T AUDIBLY SAY IT, SO I MOVE. IS THERE A SECOND, REPRESENTATIVE FOR I SECOND THIS THIS NOMINATION? I DON'T SEE IT ON THE SCREEN YET, BUT I BUT I DO SECOND. YEAH, THEY PLUGGED IT UP THERE. YEAH.

GOT IT. DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS PULLED. SO REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WATCHED, THIS PARTICULAR NOMINEE, ALL THROUGHOUT THE SPRING, ON THE MATTER OF LIBRARY SCIENCE, ON THE MATTER OF INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC, ON THE MATTER OF POLICY, I HAVE WATCHED THIS NOMINEE REQUEST, THE SCHOOL BOARD TO, PERFORM ACTIONS THAT WERE NOT ONLY AGAINST THE LAW, BUT ON UNCONSTITUTIONAL GROUNDS, AND HAVE TO HAVE, THE ISD STAFF REJECT HER AND HER REQUEST OUT OF HAND. I'VE SEEN THE APPLICATIONS SHE'S MADE TO MOVE, REMOVE BOOKS, FROM ALL NUMBER OF LIBRARIES IN THE REGION. AND, ON BASED ON HER HER RATIONALE. AND I FIND HER HER NOMINATION NOT MERELY TO BE TROUBLING, BUT HONESTLY. AND I'LL SAY IT HERE ON THE DAIS, TO BE, TROUBLING, PROBLEMATIC AND EVEN POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY TO VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. AND SO NOT ONLY CAN I NOT SUPPORT THE NOMINATION, I WONDER AT WHY THE NOMINATION WAS BROUGHT FORWARD SO I'M, I'M I'M HIGHLY AND YOU

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EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE LISTED PRESUMABLY IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAMPAIGN. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR WORDS DURING A CAMPAIGN, I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. AND I AND I HOPE THAT OTHERS WILL DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS SAID DURING CAMPAIGNS, THAT HAVE BEEN RETRACTED OR APOLOGIZED FOR. AND SO IF WE'RE HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT THEY SAY IN THE CAMPAIGN, I AM ALL FOR THAT. FULLY SUPPORT THAT AND WILL NOTE THAT, MY THE REASON AND MR. CITY ATTORNEY, BASED ON THE SPEAKING OF LAW, WE GOVERN OURSELVES BY ORDINANCES. YES, SIR. BASED ON THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS CURRENTLY, IS THIS NOMINEE QUALIFIED? YEAH. I MEAN, THE CITY SECRETARY DOES THE VETTING, BUT OUR ONLY QUALIFICATIONS TO SERVE ON A BOARD ARE RESIDENT OF THE CITY, NOT OWE ANY FINES, FEES OR DEBTS TO THE CITY AND BE OVER 18 YEARS OLD. THOSE ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO SERVE ON A BOARD. YEAH SO IF SOMEONE HAS AN ISSUE WITH THOSE ORDINANCES, BRING THOSE FORWARD. BUT AS OF TODAY, THIS NOMINEE IN OUR CITY LAWS, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE IS AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE ADVOCACY NOT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCES OR THE LAWS OF THE CITY. AND THEN I'M CHALLENGED BECAUSE THE PERSON THAT BRINGS THIS DISCUSSION IS THE PERSON THAT WAS A SINGLE VOTE AGAINST CHANGING RACIST LANGUAGE AT THE CEMETERY. SO THAT'S TROUBLING THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO THAT YOU'RE AGAINST REMOVING RACIST LANGUAGE FROM A CEMETERY DEED. BUT OKAY. AND THEN I, I HAVE IN PREPARATION HERE I, I WON'T GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT I'LL JUST REPRESENT AND I'LL SUBMIT THESE FOR THAT FOLDER. THIS IS THE, THE PERSON THAT IS UPSET REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO NOMINATED ANGELA BREWER TO THE BOARD, WHICH PASSED TO THE CHARTER COMMITTEE. BOARD. THAT'S RELEVANT BECAUSE SHE HAS A SOCIAL MEDIA POST CALLING CHRISTIANS RATS AND ROACHES. SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH AND I THINK THERE'S A LARGE SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE CHRISTIAN FAITH, AND YOU SUPPORT SOMEONE THAT CALLS THEM RATS AND ROACHES, BUT MISS SKAGGS GIVES YOU CONCERN AND THAT'S THAT'S YOUR RIGHT TO VACILLATE AS YOU SEE AS AS NEEDED. AND THEN THE OTHER, INTERESTING COMPONENT IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT STANDING OUT BECAUSE THIS IS ONE PERSON ON A BOARD, IT'S ONE PERSON. AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO WHEN HE'S ON PNC, IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED, WAS A61 VOTE REGULARLY CHALLENGING EVEN THE MOST, REGULAR PROCESSES THAT HE HAD TO BE REMINDED THAT A PRELIMINARY PLAQUE CAN'T BE PULLED. SO HE UNDERSTANDS THAT ROLE HE PLAYED THAT ROLE, BUT IT'S JUST, HIS AND THIS IS ALL. I'LL SUBMIT IT ALL. BUT THIS IS HIS COMMENTS ON THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WHERE HE DOES NOT DO THAT, I WOULD THINK MORE THAN HALF THE CITY DOES THAT AND IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT ACTION. AND HE JUSTIFIES WHY HE'S NOT. AND

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I WAS ELECTED. POINT OF ORDER. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. I QUESTIONED THE PARLIAMENTARIAN ON WHETHER WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON A CALL. THE QUESTION I JUST ASKED LEGAL. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. LEGAL IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME A ONE MINUTE, I CAN LOOK INTO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS. OKAY WE'LL HOLD. UP YEAH. I'M SORRY.

IT'S NOT.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I STAND CORRECTED. THIS IS NOT A DEBATABLE MOTION. THE POINT OF ORDER AND THE APPEAL OF THAT DECISION. SO IT'S NOT DEBATABLE. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM. IT'S A LOT TO KEEP UP WITH ON THE FLY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND BEFORE YOU IS THE MOTION. YES. WE GO IMMEDIATELY TO A VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING, MATTER. NO DELIBERATION CONTINUES. VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

AND THAT MOTION PASSES 4 TO 2. AND THAT TAKES US TO A VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION TO APPROVE. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR. IT SEEMS TO ME, BY GOING DIRECTLY TO A VOTE THAT THAT WE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THIS DECISION ARE BEING PROHIBITED FROM GIVING AN OPINION ABOUT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION YOU ASK? AND I HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, AND I'M BEING AND I'M BEING PROHIBITED FROM MAKING THAT DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I BELIEVE PROCEDURALLY WHERE WE'RE AT WAS THERE WAS A POINT OF ORDER RELATED TO THE PERSONAL ATTACKS THAT DID NOT CALL THE QUESTION WHICH WOULD HAVE TAKEN IT DIRECTLY TO A VOTE. SO AT THIS POINT, THERE'S STILL TIME FOR DEBATE ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION TO APPROVE. IT'S JUST IT WAS A CHALLENGE ON WHETHER THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER COULD BE ATTACKED AS A PERSONAL AFFRONT. THERE'S STILL OPEN DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. IT WAS NOT A CALL TO QUESTION. SO THE ITEM IS STILL PENDING. IS THERE ANY WAY TO RUN THE TAPE BACK? HE SAID, I CALL THE QUESTION FROM MEMORY. I COULD BE ABSOLUTELY WRONG. I THOUGHT IT WAS A POINT OF ORDER. THEN HE CALLED THE QUESTION THAT THE RULES WERE BEING CHANGED. WAS THERE A CALL OF A QUESTION AS WELL? YES. NO, SIR, I DID NOT HEAR THAT. THE CALL THE QUESTION WAS FOR THE CALL. THE QUESTION WAS. SO LET ME JUST LET ME JUST HAVE A CLEAR RECORD THEN. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO, YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU DID NOT SAY YOU WISH TO CALL THE QUESTION? BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT TOMORROW. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CLEAR RECORD TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I DID CALL THE ACTUAL QUESTION. SO LET'S JUST CLARIFY THAT. THERE YOU GO. SO LET'S

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NO. TO THE NOMINEE. CORRECT? YES TO THE NOMINEE. CORRECT. THAT THAT MOTION FAILS. 4 TO 2 TAKES US TO ITEM H. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. AM I I'M NOT FOLLOWING THIS AT ALL. NO. THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE. YES. OKAY. GOTCHA THEN WE'RE RIGHT. IT FAILED 2 TO 4. GOTCHA. YEP CORRECT. ITEM H

[H. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton determining the public use, need and necessity for the acquisition of approximately 14.434 acres of land located along Ryan Road, in the T. Labor Survey, Abstract Number 779 and N. Britton Survey, Abstract Number 051, each in the City and County of Denton, Texas for the purpose of a future library facility and other public amenities; authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract of sale between the City of Denton, as Buyer and the Evangelical Good Samaritan Society a North Dakota nonprofit corporation, as Seller; authorizing the City Manager to consummate and accept the purchase, grant and conveyance to the City of Denton from the Evangelical Lutheran Good Samaritan Society; authorizing the expenditure of funds not to exceed Two Million Seven Hundred Fifty Thousand and 00/100 Dollars ($2,750,000.00) plus associated closing costs; and providing for severability and an effective date.]

JUDGE HOLLAND, MAY I SPEAK TO THIS? YES, BY ALL MEANS. I'M. I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE NEED.

THE GET GO FOR THIS, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PROPERTY AVAILABLE AS SOON AS THE NUMBER SIX FIRE STATION MOVES, RELOCATES. AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T BUILD ONTO THE SOUTH BRANCH LIBRARY. AS IT STANDS, LOTS OF LOTS OF REAL ESTATE THAT THE CITY ALREADY OWNS, I JUST I JUST QUESTION THE NEED FOR THIS KIND OF EXPENDITURE AND, AND MOVING IT FURTHER, FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CENTER. I, I DO BELIEVE AND I DO HAVE JENNIFER BECKER HERE, WHO IS THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR, WHO MAY BE MORE ABLE TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THAT. YES JENNIFER BECKER, DIRECTOR OF LIBRARIES, SO THIS SITE WAS SELECTED PER OUR, MASTER PLAN FACILITIES PLAN, WHICH WAS DONE IN 2000, THERE WAS AN EVALUATION AND IT WAS RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR A NEW SOUTH BRANCH FACILITY, A FACILITY THAT COULD BE CONSIDERABLY LARGER AROUND DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE CURRENT FACILITY, AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE CURRENT LOCATION IS THE ACCESSIBILITY. IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET IN AND OUT OF THAT LOCATION, AFTER SCHOOL, IT BECOMES CHALLENGING FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND OUT, TEASLEY IS VERY BUSY. THERE'S ALSO NO GREEN SPACE, WHICH WAS A MAJOR PRIORITY FOR US. THE NORTH BRANCH AND EMILY FOWLER CURRENTLY ARE SURROUNDED BY GREEN SPACE, OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUTDOOR PROGRAMING, AND SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR THAT. AND SO THAT WHEN WE WENT TO THE BOND ELECTION, THAT WAS PART OF THE CASE WITH THAT, THAT SOUTH BRANCH WOULD BE MOVING. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SOUTH BRANCH IS THE BUSIEST LIBRARY IN THE CITY. SOUTH BRANCH, IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF THE YEAR. NORTH BRANCH IS THE BUSIEST DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR AND THEN DURING THE SUMMER, SOUTH BRANCH TAKES OVER. OKAY, WELL, PEOPLE ARE FINDING A WAY TO GET THERE.

I LIVE I LIVE NEAR THE SOUTH BRANCH LIBRARY, AND I NEVER GO ON TEES. WELL, I NEVER GO ON TEASLEY LANE SOUTH OF LILY AND MILLER. I ALWAYS ACCESS IT. THROUGH THROUGH THE DRIVEWAY, THROUGH, WHATEVER THE SCHOOL IS SAM HOUSTON SCHOOL. SO I JUST I JUST DON'T I JUST DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THIS. AND THE SOUTH BRANCH LIBRARY COULD STAY IN, IN IN BUSINESS THE ENTIRE TIME.

WE'RE WE'RE ADDING ADDING ON TO IT. IT'S 25,000FT■!S CURRENTLY. IT'S CURRENTLY JUST AT 21,000FT■!S. AND YOU YOU'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A FACILITY 40,000FT■!S. AND I THINK THAT'SN EASY AN EASY ADD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE MISS BECKER. SO COUNCIL MEMBER

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COMES FORWARD FOR DEVELOPMENT. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S MENTIONED IN HERE. I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW EARLY AND OFTEN THE TREE CODE BECAUSE I JUST BECAUSE GOOD NIGHT OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO? I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE BOARD. PASSES 5 TO 1. THAT THAT TAKES US TO OUR. LET'S SEE. WHAT DO WE HAVE? DINNER IS HERE. AND LET ME SEE WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE. YEAH. FIVE, EIGHT. WE HAVE ONE ITEM AND THEN WE HAVE A BREAK.

SO LET'S JUST, GET THROUGH FIVE A AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A BREAK TILL 630. SO FIVE A IS IT.

[A. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton nominating members to the Board of Directors of the Denton Central Appraisal District; and providing an effective date.]

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL JESSICA WILLIAMS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS ASKING FOR NOMINATIONS TO ITS BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH EACH YEAR. AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, YOU COMPLETED THIS PROCESS, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME YOU HAD THREE NOMINEES. SO THE ROLE OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN THE PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM, AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, HIRES THE CHIEF APPRAISER AND SETS THE BUDGET. THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT WE WILL GO OVER HERE SHORTLY AS TO WHO CAN BE NOMINATED FOR THE BOARD, BUT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT YOUR ACTION TONIGHT IS ONLY A NOMINATION. I'LL BE BACK ON DECEMBER 3RD, WHERE THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THE NOMINEES. SO BEGINNING LAST YEAR, WE STARTED A PROCESS WHERE THE COUNTY STARTED A PROCESS WHERE BOARD MEMBERS WILL SERVE A STAGGERED FOUR YEAR TERM. AS THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES AS THEY MOVE TOWARD THIS BEING IN 2027.

SO TWO OF THE FIVE MEMBERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO BE NOMINATED AND VOTED FOR THIS YEAR WILL SERVE ONE YEAR TERMS, AND THEN THREE OF FIVE WILL SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS. AND THE GOAL THERE IS FOR THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO BE FULLY INTO STAGGERED FOUR YEAR TERMS IN 2027. THE BOARD HAS NINE MEMBERS, AS YOU'RE AWARE, AND AS I JUST MENTIONED, FIVE ARE BEING NOMINATED OR HAVE SEATS AVAILABLE FOR THIS COMING. ELECTION THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT IN 2025. SO THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA I HAVE LISTED HERE FOR YOU, THEY MUST RESIDE IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE DATE THEY TAKE OFFICE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S JANUARY 1ST, 2025. SO TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THAT DATE, CITY, COUNTY OR SCHOOL DISTRICT ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES OF A TAXING UNIT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE UNLESS THEY ARE AN

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NOMINATIONS ARE SUBMITTED TO DCAD BY EACH JURISDICTION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT, AND WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THOSE NOMINATIONS, AND WE CAN NOMINATE UP TO FIVE CANDIDATES PRIOR TO THE 30TH, DCAD WILL COMPILE A LIST OF THE NOMINEES AND FORWARD IT TO EACH TAXING UNIT. AND PRIOR TO DECEMBER 15TH, THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS CHOSE JURISDICTIONS. NOMINATIONS CHOSEN BY WRITTEN RESOLUTION WILL SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY THE CANDIDATES OF THEIR CHOICE, AND PRIOR TO DECEMBER 31ST, DCAD WILL TABULATE THE VOTES AND FORWARD THE RESULTS BACK TO JURISDICTIONS. THE NEXT STEPS HERE FOR US AFTER TONIGHT, I WILL BE BACK ON DECEMBER 3RD. AT THAT POINT, WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FROM DCAD AS TO OUR NUMBER OF VOTES. AS A REMINDER, LAST YEAR WE HAD 165. THE TOTAL VOTES FOR ALL OF 2023 FOR ALL TAXING UNITS WAS 5000. LAST YEAR. YOU DID NOMINATE THREE INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE AND THEN PUT ALL VOTES IN DECEMBER TO ONE INDIVIDUAL. SO I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. AND I MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER, BUT FOR NOW, DO WE KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST IS THAT MEMBERS WANTED TO ROTATE OFF, OR WERE NO LONGER WILLING TO SERVE, BUT WERE WILLING TO SERVE OUT THEIR TERM. DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT ANY OF THE NINE MEMBERS? I KNOW THREE OF THE MEMBERS ARE NEW, SO THEY'RE LIKELY TO WANT TO CONTINUE. YES. DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY SERVE? GO BACK, OKAY. SO THE FIVE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF, THE MEMBERS UP FOR ELECTION WOULD BE ATWOOD, STAFFORD. PYNE, CALL TRAY AND BUCK WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE SERVING THE ONLY INFORMATION WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY IS THE MEMORANDUM THAT WAS ATTACHED IN YOUR BACKU.

OKAY. AND THAT'S SIMPLY THE APPRAISER ASKING FOR YOUR NOMINATIONS. AND I'LL JUST REPEAT THAT. IT WAS ATWOOD, STAFFORD MCCALL. TEAR AND BUCK. YES OKAY. THANK YOU.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. THANK YOU. SO CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND ME THEN HOW THIS WORKS? DO WE JUST INDIVIDUALLY TEE UP NAMES AND THEN DO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DO WE VOTE ON EACH NAME, WHETHER TO INCLUDE IT AS A NOMINATION. WHAT'S THE PROCESS? I WILL DIRECT THAT ONE TO MAC. SORRY, I WAS DISTRACTED, WAS THE QUESTION. WELL, WHAT'S THE HOW DOES THIS WORK? DO WE EACH TEE UP NAMES? COULD WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 25 NAMES AFTER YOU GET THROUGH EVERYONE AND THEN WE VOTE ON EACH ONE OR WHETHER TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE LIST. HOW DOES THAT WORK? WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS. I DEFER TO THE MAYOR ON HOW WE DO NOMINATIONS, REALLY, THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION ON HOW HE WANTS TO TAKE THOSE. YEAH, NO, JUST ANY WE CAN. THERE'S NO LIMIT TO NOMINATIONS, RIGHT? SO JUST ANY NAME WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. AND THEN IF YOU PUT POINTS TO IT, YOU DO I MEAN IT'S IF I MEAN I JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE, IT'S BEST TO GET BEHIND ONE WHEN YOU'RE UP AGAINST 5000. BUT SO THE VOTING. YEAH. SO NOMINATIONS ABOUND AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL APPLY THEM AND GET TO THE HARD STUFF. WE MAY THEN WE MAY NOMINATE UP TO FIVE. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. WELL I HAVE TWO IN MIND. SO WE'LL SEE. MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO I'LL HAVE TO THROW SOMEONE OFF THE BOAT. BUT, ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN BE NOMINATED. I DON'T KNOW, ACTUALLY, IF EITHER OF THESE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO SERVE, BUT I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND AND COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD. JUST A KIND OF A GUT FEEL THING. I THINK YOU BOTH WOULD BE GOOD AT THIS. OKAY. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE? I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M PUT ME DOWN FOR HOLLAND AND BYRD TOO. I LIKE THAT. I ALSO, YOU SAID STAFFORD, CORRECT. EMPLOYEES MAY NOT BE NOMINATED. NO. CHARLIE STAFFORD I'M SORRY. CHARLIE STAFFORD WAS OKAY. YEAH CHARLIE STAFFORD FOR ME AS WELL. PLEASE ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE. FROM. DISTRICT FOUR. I BEG YOUR PARDON? AND

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THERE ARE FIVE UP FOR ELECTION. SO YOU CAN NOMINATE UP TO FIVE. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE CURRENTLY HAVE NOMINATIONS FOR BYRD STAFFORD AND TERRY. TERRY. HOW DO YOU SAY THAT, MR. MAYOR? I THINK IT'S TERRY. YES, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN. BYRD, STAFFORD AND TERRY, I'M GOOD WITH THE NOMINATIONS WE HAVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NO OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHAT OKAY.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND NO ACTION LIKE. NO. OKAY. SO WE'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE THREE THAT WE HAVE PUT FORWARD, WHICH IS COUNCILMAN BYRD REPRESENTATIVE OR TRUSTEE STAFFORD AND DAVID TERRY. TERRY, TERRY, I MOVE APPROVAL AS YOU STATED, SIR. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SIX ZERO. THAT AT 505 WILL BE ADJOURNED TILL 630 TO TAKE UP THE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING AT DENTON CITY COUNCIL.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024. AND IT'S 631. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL CALL THE

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas amending the Denton Development Code, regarding short-term rental use regulations and definitions, specifically amendments to Table 5.2-A- Table of Allowed Uses, Subsection 5.3.1 Use-Specific Standards - Generally, Subsection 5.3.5: Commercial Use-Specific Standards, Table 7.9-I Parking, and Section 9.2: Definitions; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [5-0] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval was made by Commissioner Villareal and seconded by Commissioner Pruett. STAFF IS REQUESTING THIS PUBLIC HEARING BE CONTINUED TO THE OCTOBER 22, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. (DCA23-0002k, Short-Term Rentals, Angie Manglaris)]

AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL VOTE THE FOLLOWING MEETING AFTER THAT. SO YEAH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 22ND AND FINAL ACTION ON THE 22ND. SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ANGIE MANGAS, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER, HERE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON DCA 23 0002. THIS IS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL CODE AMENDMENTS, SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH A PROPOSED TIMELINE MOVING FORWARD, AS YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A LEGAL NOTICE

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YOUR SUGGESTIONS INTO OUR WORK SESSION ON THE 15TH. FIRST SPEAKER STEVEN. AND GIVE ME YOUR LAST NAME. SOURIS SOURIS. YES. PERFECT. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS FOUR MINUTES. IT IS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT, IS YOUR PRESENTATION FOUR MINUTES LONG? YES. ALL RIGHT. WE ONLY HAVE TWO CARDS. SO THAT THAT THAT WORKS. AND THEN WE'LL JUST WE'LL GET NARROW ON THE ON THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T FILL OUT THEIR CARDS. AND. NO, JUST KIDDING. I THINK SO, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR ADJUSTMENT. GO RIGHT AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR PRACTICING. THANK YOU. OKAY. MY NAME IS STEVEN SOROS. MY WIFE'S NAME IS CAROLA SOROS. WE LIVE AT EIGHT, THREE TWO SKYLARK DRIVE, DENTON. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP FOR US DUE TO DENTON'S SHORT TERM RENTAL POLICY, WE KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS DECIDED TO GO ALL IN WITH STRS AND THAT IT HAS DEVOTED CONSIDERABLE TIME AND EFFORT INTO DEVELOPING AND TWEAKING THE ORDINANCE. AN EXAMPLE OF THE CARE THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN IS THE WAY THE ORDINANCE ANTICIPATES PROBLEMS WITH CERTAIN KINDS OF RENTERS. FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE WANTING TO HOST A WEDDING RECEPTION OR BACHELOR PARTY, OR PEOPLE WANTING TO USE THE PROPERTY TO SELL DRUGS OR ENGAGE IN PROSTITUTION. BUT HAVE YOU ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION CREWS USING AN STR AS AN ENCAMPMENT AFTER RETURNING FROM CONSTRUCTION SITES? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET IS NOW BEING USED AS AN STR, RENTING USUALLY PERHAPS EXCLUSIVELY TO CONSTRUCTION CREWS. THEY ARRIVED WITH THEIR TRUCKS, THEIR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND EVEN FLATBED TRAILERS WITH HEAVY DUTY CONSTRUCTION SITE EQUIPMENT ON THEM. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE CONSTRUCTION GUYS.

THEY'VE BEEN REASONABLY PLEASANT TO INTERACT WITH. THE PROBLEM IS THAT HAVING A CONSTRUCTION CREW ENCAMPMENT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US COMPROMISES THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND ESTHETICS, AND IS A DEVIATION FROM WHAT THE REST OF THE STREET IS LIKE. HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF RECENT SCENES SHOWING TRAILERS PARKED IN THE STREET IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IN ADDITION TO BEING UPSET ABOUT THE COMPROMISED ESTHETICS, WE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCENE POSSIBLY INTERFERING WITH THE SALE OF OUR HOUSE AT THE BEST POSSIBLE PRICE. THE FULL ARRAY OF TRUCKS AND TRAILERS AND EQUIPMENT COULD VERY WELL BE ON DISPLAY WHEN A PROSPECTIVE BUYER COMES TO LOOK OVER OUR HOUSE, WOULD ANY OF YOU CONSIDER BUYING A HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A CONSTRUCTION CREW ENCAMPMENT? BECAUSE STRS ARE HERE TO STAY? FOR NOW AT LEAST, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH ENCAMPMENTS BY ASKING THAT THE ORDINANCE BE SLIGHTLY TWEAKED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF PARKING TRAILERS IN THE STREET, WHICH IS ILLEGAL. ACCORDING TO MY CONSULTATION TODAY WITH THE DENTON POLICE OFFICER, HE SAID NO TRAILERS CAN BE PARKED IN RESIDENTIAL STREETS, PERIOD. BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT ARRIVAL OF NEW CONSTRUCTION CREWS ON A ROTATING BASIS, WE ANTICIPATE TRAILERS BEING IN THE STREET FREQUENTLY WITH THESE VARIOUS CREWS. SO HERE'S OUR MODEST REQUEST. PLEASE CONSIDER TWEAKING THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE. NOT ONLY THAT, ALL CITY ORDINANCES MUST BE FOLLOWED, BUT THAT TRAILERS IN PARTICULAR CANNOT BE PARKED IN THE STREET, EITHER ATTACHED OR DETACHED, AND COULD THE ORDINANCE REQUIRE STR OWNERS TO INDICATE BOTH IN THEIR ADS ON AIRBNB AND VRBO, AND IN THEIR INFO HANDOUTS TO RENTERS THAT TRAILERS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE

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OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT AND GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND TO THE COUNCIL, I'M NOT TAKING WE'RE NOT GOING TO DELIBERATE TONIGHT. SO MY OPTIONS BEFORE ME WERE TO SEND EVERYONE HOME WITHOUT LETTING THEM SPEAK OR ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK. AND SO I OPTED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK. BUT WE'RE NOT POSTED TO DELIBERATE, AND SO, NOTE YOUR QUESTIONS. GET THEM TO STAFF, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT I'M NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CONVERSATION AND DELIBERATION TODAY. NEXT, SPEAKER, CHARLES LEE AND THIS IS THE LAST CARD I HAVE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE OUT IF UNLESS WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS. BUT THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM FOR TODAY. MAYOR DOES RESPONDING TO SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID COUNT AS DELIBERATION ON AN ITEM? IT DOES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU GIVE YOUR NAME? YOU HAVE. YEAH. YES. MY NAME IS CHARLES LEE AND I'M JUST GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON THIS FROM THE LAST TIME WHEN WE HAD THE BUDGET AND THE TAX INCREASES. I'M PIGGYBACKING ON TOP OF THAT TODAY TO THE CONSENT ITEM. THERE WAS 38 ITEMS PASSED FOR A TOTAL OF $6,375,629, $0.85, ALL BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WITH NO DEBATE AND NO PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NOW, I'M GOING TO GO ON TO, THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL. SEE, THIS IS THE ISSUE NOW. NOW THAT YOU'RE RAISING TAXES ON, PROPERTY OWNERS, INCREASING THE BURDEN ON PROPERTY OWNERS, NOW YOU'RE COMING. NOW, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS BECAUSE THE DETAILS HASN'T BEEN RELEASED YET, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO RESTRICT FROM THE OTHER SIDE PROPERTY OWNERS ABILITY TO MAKE INCOME OFF OF OFF THEIR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP TO PAY THOSE TAXES. SO NOW THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GETTING SQUEEZED FROM BOTH SIDES. AND I FIND THAT VERY DISTURBING. AND YOU NEED TO TAKE COGNIZANCE OF THAT, THAT NOT ONLY ARE YOU RAISING TAXES ON ONE SIDE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU'RE NOW LIMITING THEIR ABILITY, THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE INCOME ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND I'M FOR THAT REASON, I'M A NO. UNTIL I UNTIL I SEE THE PLAN, I MIGHT BE A YES, BUT I GOT TO SEE THE PLAN. BUT YOU NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT, OF THAT, THAT IDEA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? COME ON DOWN AND YOU JUST FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU. JUST BARELY DID ME.

YEAH. MY NAME IS WILLIE SELLERS, AND THAT'S THE ITEM I WANT TO SPEAK TO RIGHT THERE, SHORT TERM RENTALS, YOU'VE SEEN THE DEVASTATION IN OTHER AREAS. PLANO RICHARDSON. GARLAND WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS. I DON'T THINK IT'S A VALUE ADDED TO A SINGLE FAMILY. NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE AN ILLUSTRATION OR AN EXAMPLE. WHENEVER YOU RENT A CAR, YOU HAVE THE SAME LIABILITIES THAT YOU HAVE WHEN YOU RENT A HOME IN A, IN AN ALREADY STANDING NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE TO YOU EITHER YOU EITHER, BUY THEIR INSURANCE OR YOUR INSURANCE FROM YOUR CAR CARRIES OVER. SO THERE'S NO PROTECTION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE IN THAT AREA THAT CALLS THAT HOME. BECAUSE IF YOU'VE SEEN YOU'VE HAD, SHOOTINGS, THEY DESTROY OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. PEOPLE PARKED CARS ON THE LAWN, ETC. YOU'VE SEEN ALL OF THE EVIDENCE ON THE TV OR IN THE NEWS MEDIA OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S NOT A VALUE ADDED FOR A COMMUNITY. AND I'M IN OPPOSITION OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNTIL YOU GIVE SOME TYPE OF RAMIFICATIONS TO THE PERSON THAT OWNS THAT PROPERTY, THAT IF THE PEOPLE, THE TENANTS THAT THEY RENT THAT PROPERTY TO SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF LIABILITY TO THE PEOPLE THAT THAT ALREADY, AS THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, PAYING PROPERTY TAXES, THAT'S THEIR HOME. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT PEOPLE COMING

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OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE CLOSE? SEEING NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS, OKAY, SO THEN BEFORE WE CLOSE IT, I'LL JUST SAY AGAIN, LET ME GET IT IN FRONT OF ME. WE HAVE THE 15TH. WILL BE OUR WORK SESSION, OCTOBER 15TH. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A VOTE AND ACTION ON THE 22ND. YEAH. THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO PEOPLE CAN SPEAK AGAIN. AND WILL WILL WILL HAVE A VOTE ON OCTOBER 22ND. ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK BEFORE WE CLOSE? ALL WANT TO MAKE SURE I GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WANTS TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING

[7. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

CONCLUDING ITEMS. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. YES, I HAVE A CONCLUDING ITEM. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO JUST PRAISE OUR, BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR PUTTING ON A GREAT, EVENT THIS PAST WEEKEND. THE BLUES FESTIVAL THAT WAS HELD HERE IN QUAKERTOWN PARK. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. I'M ALWAYS GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY ARE, ARE DOING THAT THING FOR US. ALSO, I WANTED TO REMIND OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE STILL IN A I HAVEN'T SPOKEN ON THIS IN A WHILE, BUT WE'RE STILL IN A QUAKER TOWN. FUNDRAISING MODE. YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A DOCUMENTARY TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT ONCE LIVED HERE ON THIS SPACE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, BACK IN THE 20S, AND THERE'S A REALLY NEAT AND POIGNANT STORY THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. BUT WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF RAISING FUNDS TO MEMORIALIZE, THAT THIS AREA AND JUST BE REMINDED THAT THERE'S STILL SOME ANCESTRY. THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT WHOSE FAMILY, THEY'RE STILL HERE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THEY ARE MEMORIALIZED IN A PROPER KIND OF WAY. GO TO THE BLACK FILM FESTIVAL WEBSITE AND LOOK FOR QUAKERTOWN. THERE AND IT'LL GIVE YOU A HISTORY THERE. AND IT'S ALSO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DO SOME TYPE OF DONATION AS YOU PLEASE. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY DONATION IS GOING TO HAVE YOUR NAME ASSOCIATED WITH THE DOCUMENTARY DOCUMENTARY, AND YOUR NAME WILL LIVE IN PERPETUITY AS LONG AS THE DOCUMENTARY IS HERE. SO I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT THAT IS STILL GOING ON AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOMETHING BY JANUARY ABOUT THIS DOCUMENTARY. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I HAVE.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS SUNDAY, SAINT DAVID OF WALES, EPISCOPAL CHURCH WILL HOLD THE CONSECRATION OF OUR NEW SANCTUARY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS, THE SERVICE STARTS AT 10:00. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU, THEY'LL BE. THEY'LL BE VESTMENTS. THEY'LL BE SMOKE. THEY'LL BE ALL SORTS OF THINGS. SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY, 10:00 THIS COMING SUNDAY. SAINT DAVID OF WALES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THAT'S AWESOM, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER CONCLUDING ITEMS? THERE'S. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE PAST THE PAST WEEKS HAS BEEN DIFFICULT FOR THOSE OF US ON COUNCIL. I SAY THAT NOT TO GIVE US A PASS ON ANYTHING, BUT JUST TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW. THE PAST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE DIFFICULT, WE HAD A SITUATION THAT HAPPENED WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND I ASKED THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR PATIENCE AS WE DO THIS INVESTIGATION. MANY OF US UP HERE HAVE PETS AND OUR PETS ARE MEMBERS OF OUR FAMILY. AND WHENEVER WE LOSE A MEMBER OF OUR FAMILY, THERE'S A GRIEVING PROCESS THAT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. WE WILL SEE WHAT THE INVESTIGATION YIELDS. MY HEART BREAKS FOR JOHN AND COURTNEY AS THEY LOST A MEMBER OF THEIR

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THANK YOU FOR

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