[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding Audit Project 043 - Animal Services. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

A ID 242036. RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING AUDIT PROJECTS. 043 ANIMAL SERVICES. HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MADISON DENTON, CITY AUDITOR. ONE

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MOMENT. I'M SORRY. NOPE. I CAN'T GET TO IT. OH, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M HERE TO PRESENT OUR FINDINGS FROM THE AUDIT OF ANIMAL SERVICES. SO TO START, PER STATE LAW, THE GOAL OF MUNICIPAL ANIMAL SERVICES IS TO MINIMIZE THE SPREAD OF RABIES. AND GENERAL RABIES IS CONTROLLED BY PREVENTIVELY AND HUMANELY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STRAY ANIMALS IN A COMMUNITY AND REACTIVELY RESPONDING TO CALLS ABOUT DANGEROUS ANIMALS. WHILE RABIES CONTROL IS THE ORIGINAL REASON FOR MUNICIPAL ANIMAL CONTROL, THE INDUSTRY HAS EVOLVED AND ANIMAL SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS NOW OFFER A VARIETY OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, SUCH AS ADOPTION ASSISTANCE WITH ANIMAL HEALTH AND PET CARE.

EDUCATION. IN THE CITY OF DENTON, THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT OPERATES THE LINDA MCNATT ANIMAL SHELTER TO HELP PLACE STRAY ANIMALS WITH OWNERS. THE CITY OF DENTON CAN HOUSE ABOUT 280 ANIMALS EACH DAY, AND GENERALLY ANIMALS MAY BE BROUGHT IN BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER BY ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS IN RESPONSE TO A CALL BY OWNERS WHO NO LONGER WISH TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMAL, AND BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE FOUND THEM IN IN THE PUBLIC WHILE AT THE SHELTER. THE CITY OF DENTON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ANIMAL'S WELL-BEING UNTIL THEY ARE PLACED WITH AN OWNER. CARE AT THE SHELTER GENERALLY INCLUDES FEEDING AND WATERING, AS WELL AS VACCINATIONS TO TRY TO KEEP THE ANIMAL HEALTHY DURING THEIR STAY. THIS AUDIT GENERALLY REVIEWED ANIMAL CARE ACTIVITIES, ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER RESPONSE AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS THE ACCURACY AND APPROPRIATENESS OF FEES. OUR ASSESSMENT OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE PROCESSES IS BASED ON DOCUMENTATION FROM FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND FISCAL YEAR 2024, AND OBSERVATIONS THAT OCCURRED DURING THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2025. SO I'LL BEGIN BY DISCUSSING THE SHELTER'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE BASIC CARE. TO BEGIN, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT ANIMALS HAVE ACCESS TO FOOD AND WATER. FURTHER, BEST PRACTICES SUGGEST THAT AT MINIMUM, EACH ANIMAL AT A SHELTER SHOULD RECEIVE 15 MINUTES OF CARE A DAY SPLIT BETWEEN CLEANING AND FEEDING, AND THAT ANIMALS WHO RECEIVE ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES SUCH AS TOYS OR WALKS DO BETTER DURING THEIR STAY. BEHAVIORAL OBSERVATIONS SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED FOR ANIMALS DURING THEIR STAY TO HELP WITH OWNER PLACEMENT, AND FACILITATE MONITORING OF THE MENTAL OF THE ANIMALS. MENTAL HEALTH. BASED ON CALCULATORS USED IN THE INDUSTRY TO INDICATE NEEDED STAFFING LEVELS, THE CITY OF DENTON SHOULD HAVE EIGHT STAFF MEMBERS DEDICATED TO BASIC CARE ACTIVITIES EACH DAY. DURING FISCAL YEAR 2024, THERE WERE 11.5 POSITIONS GENERALLY DEDICATED TO CARING FOR HELD ANIMALS, THOUGH THEY ALSO ASSIST WITH ADOPTIONS BASED ON ON SITE OBSERVATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF MEMBERS OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AND SENIOR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS ARE CURRENTLY REQUIRED TO ASSIST WITH BASIC CARE ACTIVITIES TO ENSURE THEY ARE COMPLETED, EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE NOT THEIR PRIMARILY PRIMARY JOB RESPONSIBILITIES, INDICATING THAT DEDICATED STAFF MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE. VOLUNTEERS PROVIDE ABOUT 400 HOURS OF ASSISTANCE MONTHLY, AND ARE LARGELY FOCUSED ON PROVIDING ENRICHMENT TO ANIMALS SUCH AS WALKS AND TOYS AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20. SO AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET, COUNCIL APPROVED TWO ADDITIONAL ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS AND AN ANIMAL BEHAVIOR ENRICHMENT AND PLACEMENT COORDINATOR, WHICH SHOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE STAFFING ISSUES. THE DEPARTMENT HAS DEVELOPED STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON FEEDING, WEIGHT MANAGEMENT AND CLEANING. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THESE DOCUMENTS THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED. FURTHER. WHILE BEHAVIORAL NOTES ARE SOMETIMES DOCUMENTED, THERE'S NO WRITTEN PROCEDURE ON WHAT NOTES SHOULD BE REQUIRED. AND WHILE THESE SOPS EXIST, STAFF COULD NOT FORMALLY TRACK OR VERIFY WHICH ANIMALS HAD BEEN FED AND WHAT KENNELS HAD HAD BEEN CLEANED THROUGHOUT EACH DAY. DURING THE FISCAL YEAR REVIEW. STILL, DURING THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2025, THE DEPARTMENT CREATED AND BEGAN USING A SYSTEM WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO TRACK DAILY CARE ACTIVITIES AND IMPROVE STAFF ACCOUNTABILITY. FURTHER PLANS TO UPDATE OR FORMALIZE SOPS. FURTHER, STAFF PLANS TO UPDATE OR FORMALIZE SOPS AS NEEDED IN RESPONSE TO RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO BASIC CARE ACTIVITIES, THE ANIMAL SHELTER MUST PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE TO ANIMALS. PARTICULARLY, THE STATE REQUIRES THAT ALL ANIMALS BE VACCINATED AGAINST RABIES, AND BEST PRACTICES SUGGEST THAT CERTAIN VACCINATIONS BE ADMINISTERED TO ANIMALS UPON INTAKE TO THE SHELTER TO LIMIT THE SPREAD OF DISEASE. IN ADDITION, ANIMAL HEALTH SHOULD BE RECHECKED MONTHLY TO ENSURE IT'S NOT DECLINING, AND VACCINE BOOSTERS SHOULD BE ADMINISTERED EVERY FOUR WEEKS. THE SHELTER HAS ESTABLISHED A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT REQUIRES THE ADMINISTRATION OF ALL VACCINES AND PARASITE PREVENTATIVES SUGGESTED BY BEST PRACTICES. HOWEVER, BASED ON A REVIEW OF A SAMPLE OF 99 ANIMAL VACCINE ANIMALS, VACCINE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT CURRENTLY CONSISTENTLY DOCUMENTED. FURTHER, THE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE A PROCESS FOR RECHECKING ANIMAL HEALTH MONTHLY OR CONSISTENTLY TRACKING LENGTH OF STAY BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. STAFF PLANS TO CREATE A MONTHLY RECHECK PROCESS AND

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BELIEVES THE NEW DAILY CARE TRACKING SYSTEM WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE LENGTH OF STAY MONITORING. FURTHER, THE CITY HAS CONTRACTED WITH A VETERAN VETERINARY SERVICES PROVIDER FOR ANIMAL MEDICAL CARE, WHILE THE CONTRACTOR APPEARS TO BE RESPONDING TO REQUESTS FOR MEDICAL SERVICES TIMELY, USUALLY WITHIN A DAY. SOME OTHER KEY PERFORMANCE EXPECTATIONS CANNOT BE VERIFIED. IN PARTICULAR, THE CONTRACTOR IS EXPECTED TO PERFORM ALL INTAKE EXAMS, BUT APPEARS TO BE ONLY PERFORMING ABOUT HALF OF THESE. BUT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT WHILE STAFF PERFORMING INTAKE EXAMS SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY TRAINED, IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT THEY ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. IN ADDITION, COSTS FOR SPECIALTY SURGERIES HAVE BEEN ADDED TO INVOICES BASED ON A VERBAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR AND A FORMER STAFF MEMBER, BUT IT'S UNCLEAR WHY THESE SURGERIES ARE NOT COVERED UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT BASED ON OUR REVIEW. FURTHER, THE CITY IS CURRENTLY OR CURRENTLY HAS NO METHOD TO VERIFY THAT IT'S BEING BILLED ONLY FOR ACTUAL HOURS WORKED BY THE CONTRACTOR CONTRACTED STAFF, AND SIMILARLY, THE CONTRACTOR MANAGES ALL NON EUTHANASIA DRUGS PURCHASED BY THE CITY. BUT THE CITY DOES NOT MONITOR DRUG USAGE OR VERIFY CURRENT STOCK AMOUNTS, INCREASING THE RISK THAT DRUGS MAY BE LOST, STOLEN OR MISUSED BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. ANIMAL SERVICE SERVICES STAFF ARE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE INVOICES ACCURATELY REFLECT THE CONTRACT. IN ADDITION, STAFF IS EXPLORING OPTIONS TO FORMALIZE A DRUG INVENTORY TRACKING METHOD WITH THE CONTRACTOR. THE ANIMAL SHELTER. ANIMAL SHELTER PRIMARILY ATTEMPTS TO PLACE ANIMALS EITHER BACK WITH THEIR ORIGINAL OWNER, OR WITH A NEW OWNER. TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF STRAY ANIMALS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROCESS IS GENERALLY MEASURED BY THE LIVE RELEASE RATE, AND BEST PRACTICES SUGGEST THAT OUTREACH AND EDUCATION IS KEY TO INCREASING LIVE RELEASES. A GENERAL LIVE RELEASE GOAL IS ABOUT IS 90%, AND FOR FISCAL YEARS 2023 AND 2024, THE DENTON ANIMAL SHELTER HAD A COMBINED LIVE RELEASE RATE OF 83%. TO INCREASE THE CHANCES OF RETURNING AN ANIMAL TO ITS ORIGINAL OWNER, BEST PRACTICES RECOMMEND THAT SHELTERS CHECK FOR ALL TYPES OF IDENTIFICATION, INCLUDING MICROCHIPS, AND REVIEW LOCAL ONLINE PLATFORMS. USES MANY METHODS TO COMMUNICATE THAT AN ANIMAL HAS BEEN FOUND AS POSSIBLE, AND CLEARLY COMMUNICATE HOW AN OWNER CAN RECLAIM AN ANIMAL. DENTON HAS ESTABLISHED A 72 HOUR HOLD PERIOD FOR STRAY ANIMALS, DURING WHICH THE ORIGINAL OWNER CAN RECLAIM THE ANIMAL FOR A REDUCED FEE, AND GENERAL DOCUMENTATION OF WHO RECLAIMED AN ANIMAL IS RETAINED, BUT EVIDENCE THAT A RABIES VACCINE WAS ADMINISTERED AND PROOF OF OWNERSHIP FOR THE ANIMAL IS NOT ALWAYS RETAINED. FURTHER, THE DEPARTMENT HAS DEVELOPED A PROCESS FOR CHECKING, FOR CHECKING, FOR IDENTIFICATION, POSTING PICTURES OF THE ANIMAL ONLINE, AND DOCUMENTING ATTEMPTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE OWNER. HOWEVER, CURRENT STAFFING LIMITATIONS PROHIBIT STAFF FROM SEARCHING LOCAL ONLINE POSTINGS. IN ADDITION, AN SOP FOR PERFORMING MICROCHIP MICROCHIP SCANS WAS RECENTLY DEVELOPED. IF AN ANIMAL IS NOT RECLAIMED WITHIN THE 72 72 HOUR HOLD PERIOD, IT BECOMES ADOPTABLE. STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT ANIMAL SHELTERS STERILIZE ANIMALS AND VACCINATE THEM AGAINST RABIES BEFORE RELEASE. IN ADDITION, NEW ADOPTERS SHOULD RELEASE THE CITY FROM LIABILITY AND FORMALLY TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE ANIMAL. BASED ON REVIEW OF 99 ANIMALS. ADOPTION REGULATIONS ARE GENERALLY FULFILLED, WITH ONLY ONE ANIMAL BEING ADOPTED OUT WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF A RABIES VACCINATION AND ONLY TWO WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF STERILIZATION. A SIGNED ADOPTION AGREEMENT FOR TEN OF THESE ADOPTIONS CANNOT BE FOUND. STILL, STAFF ARE NOT CURRENTLY REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE MEDICAL OR BEHAVIORAL INFORMATION TO ADOPTERS, WHICH IS SUGGESTED BY BEST PRACTICES WHILE BUT WHILE BUT MEDICAL INFORMATION WAS TYPICALLY DISCLOSED, BUT BEHAVIORAL INFORMATION WAS NOT BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. SOPS WILL BE CREATED OR UPDATED TO PROVIDE ASSURANCE THAT MICROCHIPS ARE BEING SCANNED AND THAT BEHAVIORAL INFORMATION IS READILY AVAILABLE FOR DISCLOSURE. WHILE PLACEMENT WITH AN OWNER IS THE SHELTER'S PRIMARY STRATEGY, THIS MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR COMMUNITY CATS OR THOSE CATS THAT ARE UNSOCIALIZED AND THESE INSTANCES. BEST PRACTICES RECOMMEND THAT THESE ANIMALS BE TRAPPED, NEUTERED, AND THEN RELEASED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, THE CITY TRAPPED, NEUTERED, AND RELEASED, OR TNR ABOUT 115 CATS DURING FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND 2024. HOWEVER, A FORMAL PROGRAM AND CRITERIA TO HELP GUIDE STAFF AND IDENTIFYING ANIMALS FOR THIS PROGRAM HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. FORMAL GUIDELINES FOR A TNR PROGRAM WILL BE DEVELOPED DURING FISCAL YEAR 2025 TO HELP SOLIDIFY THIS PROGRAM. FINALLY, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A FORMAL OUTREACH OR EDUCATION PROGRAM, AND THE SHELTER IS ONLY OPEN DURING STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS, POTENTIALLY HINDERING ACCESS FOR SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS. FURTHER, THERE'S GENERAL COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR SERVICES THAT THE SHELTER HAS BEGUN INFORMALLY OFFERING, SUCH AS MICROCHIPPING AND PROVIDING STERILIZATION. THESE PROGRAMS SHOULD BE FORMALIZED AND PUBLICIZED TO ENSURE ALL RESIDENTS HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THEM BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE.

STAFF IS CURRENTLY EVALUATING SHELTER HOURS AND PLANS TO INCREASE OPEN HOURS ONCE STAFF, STAFFING AND STAFFING LEVELS INCREASE. THE STATE OF TEXAS ALLOWS ANIMAL SHELTERS TO

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HUMANELY EUTHANIZE ANIMALS UNDER ITS CONTROL. STILL, THOSE PERFORMING THE PROCEDURE MUST BE APPROPRIATELY TRAINED AND CERTAIN DRUGS MUST BE USED. IN ADDITION, BEST PRACTICES SUGGEST THAT TWO STAFF MEMBERS BE PRESENT WHEN EUTHANIZING AN ANIMAL THAT THE ANIMALS IDENTIFICATION BE VERIFIED JUST BEFORE BEGINNING THE PROCEDURE THAT VITAL SIGNS BE VERIFIED BEFORE DISPOSAL, AND THAT LIVE ANIMALS BE PROTECTED FROM CONTACT WITH ANIMAL BODIES.

FURTHER, THE DRUG REQUIRED TO EUTHANIZE AN ANIMAL IS CONSIDERED A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND MUST BE STORED SECURELY AND USAGE TIGHTLY MONITORED. BEST PRACTICES. IN SOME SITUATIONS, LIKE WHEN HANDLING A DANGEROUS ANIMAL, SORRY PER BEST PRACTICES IN SOME SITUATIONS, LIKE WHEN HANDLING A DANGEROUS ANIMAL SHELTER, PERSONNEL MAY USE A PERSONAL OR PRE EUTHANASIA SEDATION DRUG TO ASSIST IN THE PROCESS. THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS A EUTHANASIA STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT ADDRESSES ALL STATE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS AND SOME BEST PRACTICES. SOME UPDATES WERE NEEDED, INCLUDING UPDATING STRAY HOLD TIME SINCE IT WAS RECENTLY CHANGED AND LISTING THE NEW ANIMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. FURTHER, THE DEPARTMENT IS IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A NEW EUTHANASIA POLICY, INCLUDING DECISION MAKING CRITERIA AND BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSES, THE EUTHANASIA STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE HAS BEEN UPDATED. A REVIEW OF EUTHANASIA DOCUMENTATION IN THE ANIMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SHOWED THAT NOT ALL SOP REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING DOCUMENTED APPROPRIATELY. WHILE MICROCHIP SCANS AND WAITS WERE NOT CLEARLY DOCUMENTED.

VIDEO REVIEW OF STAFF PERFORMING EUTHANASIA DURING OCTOBER 2024 INDICATES THAT THESE ACTIVITIES ARE OCCURRING, AND BASED ON A REVIEW OF 47 STRAY ANIMALS EUTHANIZED BEFORE THE WHOLE TIME WAS COMPLETE, ONLY FOUR WERE NOT CLEARLY ALLOWED PER ORDINANCE. BASED ON THE RECORDED REASONING.

IN ADDITION, EMPLOYEES PERFORMING EUTHANASIA ARE GENERALLY TRAINED APPROPRIATELY.

HOWEVER, DOCUMENTATION AND TRACKING OF TRAINING SHOULD BE IMPROVED. IN PARTICULAR, OF THE 19 EMPLOYEES WHO WERE DOCUMENTED AS PARTICIPATING IN A EUTHANASIA PROCEDURE, A REQUIRED TRAINING CERTIFICATE FOR ONE EMPLOYEE WAS NOT AVAILABLE, ONLY ONE EMPLOYEE WAS NOT AVAILABLE, AND ANOTHER EMPLOYEE DID PERFORM EUTHANASIA, A EUTHANASIA PROCEDURE, WHILE THEIR CERTIFICATE WAS EXPIRED.

LASTLY, THE EUTHANASIA DRUG IS APPROPRIATELY CONTROLLED. THE USAGE DOCUMENTATION COULD BE IMPROVED. SPECIFICALLY, THERE WERE OCCASIONALLY DISCREPANCIES IN DATE AND REASON BETWEEN THE DRUG LOGBOOK AND THE ANIMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IN ADDITION, THE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY OF ITS DEA LICENSE AS REQUIRED, AND THEN FURTHER, THE DEPARTMENT OCCASIONALLY USES A PRE EUTHANASIA SEDATION DRUG, WHILE A SYSTEM FOR TRACKING THE USAGE OF THIS DRUG HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, IT'S NOT CONSISTENTLY USED BY STAFF. BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE, THE DEPARTMENT IS UPDATING OR DEVELOPING PROCEDURES TO ENSURE EUTHANASIA RELATED DRUGS ARE DOCUMENTED APPROPRIATELY, AND TO ALIGN EUTHANASIA SOPS WITH CURRENT PRACTICES. IN ADDITION TO SHELTER OPERATIONS, THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE FIELD, INCLUDING INVESTIGATING BITE REPORTS AND HANDLING QUARANTINED ANIMALS. STAFF MEMBERS WHO PERFORM THESE ACTIVITIES ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS TO RECEIVE BASIC ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER TRAINING WITHIN ONE YEAR OF HIRE, BASED ON REVIEW OF STAFF RECORDS, THE TRAINING OF 12 OF THE 13 EMPLOYEES WHO REQUIRED OFFICER TRAINING DURING THIS PERIOD WAS VERIFIED. THE ONE EMPLOYEE WHOSE TRAINING COULD NOT BE VERIFIED IS NO LONGER WITH THE CITY, AND THEIR PRIMARY DUTIES DID NOT INVOLVE RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR ASSISTANCE. FURTHER, THE METHOD THE DEPARTMENT USED TO TRACK CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS WAS NOT ALWAYS ACCURATE. CALLS FOR ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER RESPONSE ARE RECEIVED BY ANIMAL SERVICES FRONT DESK STAFF, AS WELL AS PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION, THE COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION AND THE 311 DIVISION. ANIMAL SERVICES STAFF CANNOT ENTER CALLS RECEIVED INTO THE DISPATCHING SYSTEM AT THEIR REGULAR WORK STATION, AND 311 STAFF CANNOT ENTER CALLS AT ALL INTO THE DISPATCHING SYSTEM, POTENTIALLY DELAYING THE COMMUNICATION OF CALLS FOR SERVICE TO OFFICERS. FURTHER, THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO CALLERS ABOUT THE PHONE MENU MAY NOT BE CONSISTENT BETWEEN ALL THREE FUNCTIONS. STILL, MOST CALLS FOR SERVICES ARE CLEARED WITHIN AN HOUR OF BEING ENTERED AND THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT PRIORITY ONE CALLS HAVE A FASTER RESPONSE TIME THAN OTHERS, AS INDICATED BY THE CHART ON THE SLIDE. THE DEPARTMENT HAS DEVELOPED SOME SOPS THAT PROVIDE EXPECTATIONS REGARDING FIELD OPERATIONS, INCLUDING HOME QUARANTINES. STILL, THERE'S NO WRITTEN GUIDANCE FOR OFFICERS ON WHAT DETAILS REGARDING CALLS SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED AND WHEN AN INCIDENT REPORT SHOULD BE CREATED. FURTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR FIELD OFFICERS TO ASSIST IN ANIMAL CARE IN THE SHELTER HAS IMPACTED THEIR ABILITY TO CHECK ON HOME QUARANTINES, AS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE. IN ADDITION, THERE'S CURRENTLY NO PROCESS TO RECONCILE ISSUED CITATIONS TO ENSURE THEY ARE ALL FORWARDED TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND BASED ON A REVIEW OF CITATION SEQUENCING, SOME CITATIONS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FORWARDED APPROPRIATELY BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. ANIMAL SERVICES PLANS TO CREATE

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OR UPDATE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES TO CLARIFY OFFICER EXPECTATIONS FOR INPUTTING CALLS FOR SERVICE. DOCUMENTING ACTIVITIES IN THE FIELD, RESPONDING TO CALLS TIMELY AND FORWARDING CITATIONS TO MUNICIPAL COURT. IN ADDITION, THE DEPARTMENT IS IN REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS AND 311 DIVISION STAFF TO HELP ENSURE CONSISTENT AND ACCURATE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY CALL. TO SAFEGUARD THE ANIMALS WITHIN THE CITY'S CARE, THE CITY MUST ENSURE THAT ANIMALS ARE APPROPRIATELY TRACKED, THAT ONLY AUTHORIZED INDIVIDUALS HAVE ACCESS TO THEM, AND THAT THEY CAN BE SAFELY TRANSPORTED WHEN NECESSARY. IN GENERAL, THERE ARE THREE CRITICAL ASSET AREAS THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED ONE. AN ANIMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ACCESS TO WHICH SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY LIMITED TO THE SHELTER FACILITY, ACCESS TO WHICH SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY LIMITED, PHYSICALLY SECURED AND PREPARED FOR EMERGENCIES. AND THREE ANIMAL TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES WHICH SHOULD BE TRACKED. HE SHOULD BE MANAGED AND SHOULD BE INSPECTED PERIODICALLY FOR DAILY USE. BASED ON REVIEW OF THE ANIMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ACCESS WAS GENERALLY APPROPRIATE, THOUGH SOME USERS WITH THE SAME JOB DUTIES HAD DIFFERENT ACCESS LEVELS. IN ADDITION, THE SHELTER FACILITY IS GENERALLY MEETING STATE REQUIREMENTS BASED ON THE 2024 STATE INSPECTION REPORT, ALTHOUGH THE 2023 REPORT WAS NOT AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW. PHYSICAL ACCESS TO THE SHELTER IS GENERALLY EXTENSIVE, WITH 1063 BADGES HAVING ACCESS. 704 OF THESE ALLOWED ACCESS THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR, AND WERE NOT ACTUALLY ANIMAL SERVICES STAFF MEMBERS. MOST OF THESE EMPLOYEES WERE CITY INTERNAL FUNCTION STAFF MEMBERS LIKE FACILITIES. HOWEVER, 63 BADGES MAY HAVE HAD INAPPROPRIATE ACCESS FOR THE SHELTER. SECURITY CAMERAS PROVIDE ADEQUATE COVERAGE OF THE FACILITY, EXCEPT THAT THERE ARE NO VIEWS OF ANIMAL HOLDING AREAS, WHICH MAY HINDER THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO PERFORM NEEDED INVESTIGATIONS. THE SHELTER ALSO HAS A CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLAN THAT WAS UPDATED IN 2023. IT'S GENERALLY APPROPRIATE, BUT ADDITIONAL DETAILS REGARDING ENSURING ANIMALS IN FOSTER CARE RECEIVE ESSENTIAL SERVICES, MANAGING CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES AND HOW TO USE VOLUNTEERS IF AVAILABLE, WOULD BE USEFUL. LASTLY, ANIMAL SERVICES VEHICLES HAVE APPROPRIATE ANIMAL CARE EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTALLY MONITORED KENNELS, AND CAN BE TRACKED VIA GPS. PERIODIC INSPECTIONS BY ANIMAL SERVICES WOULD FURTHER ENSURE VEHICLES REMAIN FUNCTION FUNCTIONAL DURING DAILY USE AND KEYS ARE LOOSELY MANAGED, INCREASING THE RISK THAT THEY MAY BE LOST BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. THE DEPARTMENT PLANS TO ESTABLISH FORMAL CRITERIA FOR GRANTING ACCESS TO THE ANIMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THE SHELTER BUILDING, AND IS CREATING SOPS TO ADDRESS VEHICLE INSPECTIONS AND KEY MANAGEMENT. IN ADDITION, THEY'RE EXPLORING OPTIONS TO EXPAND SECURITY CAMERA VIEWS INTO THE ANIMAL HOLDING AREAS. LAST, IN GENERAL, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LIKE THE CITY OF DENTON MAY CHARGE FEES TO HELP MORE EQUITABLY FUND SERVICES BY RECOVERING SOME OF THE COSTS FROM THE DIRECT USER.

BEST PRACTICES SUGGEST THAT THESE FEES BE AUTHORIZED BY THE POLICY SETTING BODY OR THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT THEY BE BASED ON THE ACTUAL COST OF PROVIDING SERVICES. IN ADDITION, THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION SUGGESTS REVIEWING AND UPDATING FEES PERIODICALLY, SUCH AS EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS, AND ENSURING THAT ACCURATE INFORMATION IS EASILY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THE MOST RECENT ANIMAL SERVICES FEE SCHEDULE WAS ADOPTED IN 2013 AND APPEARS TO BE OUTDATED, RESULTING IN SOME STERILIZATION INCENTIVES NO LONGER BEING EFFECTIVE. IN ADDITION, SOME UNAUTHORIZED FEES HAVE BEEN CHARGED, RESULTING IN JUST OVER $2,000 OF UNAUTHORIZED REVENUE DURING FISCAL YEAR 2020 FOR. IN ADDITION, THE CITY, WITH THE HELP OF THE DENTON ANIMAL SUPPORT FOUNDATION, OFFERS DISCOUNTS ON ADOPTION FEES. SPECIFICALLY, THE ORDINANCE GENERALLY ALLOWS HALF PRICE ADOPTIONS AND FURTHER REDUCTIONS WITH SUPERVISOR APPROVAL. BASED ON A REVIEW. ABOUT 80% OF ADOPTIONS WERE EITHER STANDARD OR SUBSIDIZED, BUT THE REMAINING WERE NOT CLEARLY APPROVED. FURTHER, WHILE THESE DISCOUNT PROGRAMS ARE APPROPRIATE, MORE CLEARLY DOCUMENTING THE PROGRAM'S PARAMETERS AND CRITERIA WOULD HELP TO ENSURE LIMITED SUBSIDY MONEY IS DISTRIBUTED ECONOMICALLY FOR OWNER RECLAIM FEES. THE CITY'S ORDINANCE REQUIRES BOTH AN IMPOUNDMENT FEE AND A DAILY HOLDING FEE BASED ON REVIEW OF CHARGED FEES. ONLY ABOUT 4% OF THESE APPEARED ACCURATE. IN PARTICULAR, THE DAILY HOLDING FEE WAS GENERALLY NOT APPLIED ACCURATELY. NOTES IN THE ANIMAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM INDICATE THAT SOME STAFF MAY BELIEVE HOLDING FEES SHOULD NOT BE APPLIED FOR PARTIAL HOLDING DAYS, BUT THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE. IN ADDITION, SOME OWNER RECLAIM FEES WERE WAIVED DUE TO OWNER CIRCUMSTANCES BASED ON BEST PRACTICES AND THE ANIMAL SHELTERS GOALS. PROVIDING DISCOUNTS FOR RECLAIM FEES ARE GENERALLY APPROPRIATE. HOWEVER, THE ABILITY TO OFFER THESE SHOULD BE CLEARLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. FINALLY, FEE TRANSPARENCY COULD BE IMPROVED.

SPECIFICALLY, WHILE SOME FEE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE, A COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE COULD NOT BE FOUND. FURTHER, DURING AN ON SITE OBSERVATION ON OCTOBER 10TH, 2020 FOR NO FEE, INFORMATION WAS CLEARLY POSTED AT THE SHELTER'S FRONT DESK FOR THE PUBLIC. STILL, INFORMATION

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ABOUT DISCOUNTED ADOPTIONS IS OCCASIONALLY POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND SOME ANIMALS ARE MARKED AS ELIGIBLE FOR ADOPTION DISCOUNTS ON THE KENNEL ON THEIR KENNEL CARD IN THE SHELTER. THE OUTDATED FEE SCHEDULE WAS PREVIOUSLY NOTED BY ANIMAL SERVICES STAFF AS AN ISSUE, AND AN UPDATED FEE SCHEDULE IS PLANNED TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THIS YEAR, AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT ANIMAL SERVICES FEES WILL BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AFTER THAT. SO IN SUMMARY, WE ISSUED 34 RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL OF WHICH THE DEPARTMENT EITHER AGREED OR PARTIALLY AGREED WITH. BASED ON THIS RESPONSE, WE BELIEVE THE IDENTIFIED RISKS WILL BE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED AND WE PLAN TO PERFORM A FOLLOW UP REVIEW IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2026. UNLESS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO DO ONE SOONER. LET'S ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. SO IT SEEMS LIKE FROM THE SUMMER. THANK YOU. BY THE WAY I LOVE THE COMPREHENSIVE NATURE.

THIS WAS EVEN MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN THE ONE A YEAR AGO. IT SEEMS LIKE OVER THE SPAN OF THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE WE'VE GOT THE APPROPRIATE TREATMENTS, FOR THE MOST PART, APPROPRIATE PROCEDURES. BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY SEEM TO BE LACKING IS MEASUREMENT, DOCUMENTATION, TRAINING AND REPORTING. IS THAT A FAIR SUMMARY? YES, I THINK SO. SO NO SUBSTANTIVE FAILURES OTHER THAN WE MAY NOT BE DOING WHAT WE THINK WE'RE DOING. YEAH. I THINK NOT BEING ABLE TO TRACK IF WE'RE HAVE WE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE BASIC CARE INCREASES THE RISK THAT OBVIOUSLY ANIMALS ARE NOT RECEIVING CARE. BUT WE DIDN'T FIND THAT THAT WAS TRUE, JUST THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO TRACK.

AND NOW THEY HAVE THE THEIR NEW SYSTEM, WHICH COMPLETELY SHOULD ELIMINATE THAT ISSUE AND ACTUALLY GIVE A LOT MORE VISIBILITY INTO THE ANIMAL'S HEALTH AND HOW THEY'RE BEING CARED FOR. THE. OKAY, I KNOW THAT WE HAD HAD IN SOME OF THE PRIOR QUESTIONS I HAD SENT TO CITY MANAGEMENT TO ASK FOR YOUR OFFICE TO REVIEW, AND IT MIGHT BE IN THE OTHER REPORT. THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL. SO LET ME KNOW IF IT IS. BUT I WAS I KNOW WE HAD HAD SOME ISSUES WITH. USE TRAINING AND ACCESS, AND YOU MENTIONED ALL OF THOSE IN YOUR REPORT ON ON DATABASES IN THE PAST VERSUS DATABASES IN THE, IN THE CURRENT TIMES, THINGS LIKE PET POINT. YEAH. DID YOU REVIEW THOSE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT DATABASES AND IDENTIFY NEEDS OF THOSE TRANSITIONS? WE DIDN'T REVIEW TRANSITIONS BETWEEN THE DATABASES AS LIKE A PROCESS THAT WAS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE. WE JUST BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED IN LIKE 20 21, 22. SO WE DIDN'T IT WAS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS REVIEW PERIOD. SO YOU ONLY LOOKED AT USE OF PET PET POINT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

AND AS PART OF YOUR YOUR REVIEW, DID YOU LOOK AT YOU MENTIONED IN ONE OF THE AUDITS THAT THE STAFF AGREED WITH THE AFTER HOURS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES CALLS. DID DID DO WE DID WE HAVE APPROPRIATE. DOCUMENTATION AND RECORDING OF CALL LOGS OR NOT? I WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR FROM THE AUDIT. SO THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE CALLS WAS INCONSISTENT. SO THAT ALL STARTS WITH THE MICROCHIP SCANNING, RIGHT? THE DOCUMENTATION OF MICROCHIPS BEING SCANNED WAS INCONSISTENT.

WE DIDN'T FIND THAT IT WAS ALWAYS DOCUMENTED ACCURATELY. AND THEN OF THE ONES I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, I DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL REPORT WITH ME. IT'S IN A TABLE SOMEWHERE. SO NOT ALL OF THEM HAD DOCUMENTATION THAT THERE WAS A MICROCHIP SCAN, BUT SOME OF THOSE DID HAVE COMMUNICATION SHEETS, WHICH IS HOW THEY'RE DOCUMENTING THAT THEY'RE REACHING OUT. SO IT INDICATES THAT MICROCHIP SCANS MIGHT BE HAPPENING EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT BEING DOCUMENTED. AND BUT SOME OF THE ISSUE IS THAT SOME OF THE SOMETIMES THE COMMUNICATION SHEETS ARE NOT BEING ATTACHED TO THE PROFILE IN THE SYSTEM. INSTEAD, THEY'RE IN KIND OF A BULK DAILY UPLOAD. AND SO THAT ALSO HINDERED VERIFICATION OF IF COMMUNICATION WAS OCCURRING AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE. I'M SORRY, THE SOP OKAY DID FOR THESE TIMES WHEN WE HAD A LACK OF CLARITY ON REPORTING AND DOCUMENTATION AND TRAINING, DO IN THE AGREEMENT AND PARTIAL AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAD WITH THE DEPARTMENT STAFF, I DIDN'T SEE ANY TIMELINES FOR WHEN OVER WHAT TIME PERIOD THESE WOULD BE ADDRESSED. IS THAT A YOU QUESTION OR IS THAT A

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SOMEBODY ELSE QUESTION? THERE SHOULD BE A GENERALLY A QUARTER INDICATED IN THE TABLE AT THE END. OKAY. YEAH. NO. KEEP GOING. I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S A I WOULD SAY THAT'S A SARAH QUESTION, BUT BUT WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN THERE ABOUT WHEN IT SHOULD BE COMPLETE. YEAH. THE A LOT OF THESE THINGS IN MADISON KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT. THEY'VE ALREADY BEGUN WORKING ON. YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE PRESENTATION HERE IN A MINUTE. AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE CARE AND FEEDING AND WALKING AND, AND WATERING OF ANIMALS HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED AND IS BEING IS USING THE HIGHEST OF TECHNOLOGY WITH BARCODES. SO A LOT OF THIS IS ALREADY UNDERWAY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE QUICKLY, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THEM.

SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I THINK YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN A YEAR. I MAY ASK YOU TO COME BACK LESS THAN A YEAR BECAUSE I WOULD. I'M GOING TO STICK TO WHAT I SAID TO THIS COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, WHICH IS BY THE TIME WE FINISH THIS, THIS WILL BE THE BEST RUN SHELTER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND IT'S ALREADY HEADED THAT WAY. NOW, ALL THE THINGS SHE'S MENTIONED, THEY'VE ALREADY BEGUN WORKING ON AND EVERYTHING, EVEN THINGS SHE DIDN'T MENTION, WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT RESCUE GROUPS AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. THE GOAL IS CHANGE. THIS IS A WHOLE CULTURE SHIFT IN HOW AN ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY IS RUN. SO MY EXPECTATION IS THAT ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED NOW AND THAT IT TAKES IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE WHILE IN SOME SENSES, BUT THAT THEY'RE ON IT ALREADY. AND SO A LOT OF IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. BUT I WOULD HOPE WE'LL BE READY FOR HER TO COME BACK AND CHECK ON THINGS IN LESS THAN A YEAR.

PERFECT, PERFECT. I APPRECIATE THAT CONTEXT. I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU OR THE AUDITOR IS THEN AND YOU KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT YOURSELF, WHEN IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO COME BACK AND REVISIT? YOU WERE SAYING? YEAH. SO I DIDN'T SEE A TIME. DID YOU SAY A YEAR? AND YOU WERE SAYING LESS THAN A YEAR? YEAH, SO COULD I I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME CLARITY ON WHAT YOU THINK. AN APPROPRIATE REVISIT TO THIS IS BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE EVEN IF EVERYONE IS DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT AND WE'RE CORRECTING EVERYTHING, MAYBE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CORRECTING EVERYTHING SOONER SO WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK SOONER. ONE OF THE SO ONE OF THE REASONS I SAID FISCAL YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR 26 IS BECAUSE WE JUST APPROVED OUR AUDIT PLAN AND IT WASN'T ON THERE. SO WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED ALL OF OUR TIME FOR THIS YEAR. WE CAN CERTAINLY AMEND THAT. IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO GO BACK SOONER AND BRING THAT TO YOU. WE DO ALSO HAVE TO LEAVE. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T COME IN TOMORROW AND SAY, HEY, THEY'VE UPDATED THIS SOP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA TO THEN GO SAY, IS IT WORKING THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO. SO WE NEED TO GIVE USUALLY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS SO THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO SAY LIKE, OKAY, YEAH, THEY'VE UPDATED THE SOP AND THEN WE CAN CHECK IF IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING CONSISTENTLY THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO. SO I WOULD SAY WE NEED AT LEAST SIX MONTHS. AND I WASN'T SURE THAT THREE MONTHS MADE A HUGE DEAL, MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. BUT IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE US TO COME BACK IN AUGUST OR JULY, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SO. I THINK WE'LL BE READY IN 6 TO 9 MONTHS. I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN SEE IT TAKING. I THINK SIX MONTHS IS PROBABLY ABOUT IT BECAUSE I AGREE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING THEY NEED TO TEST AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO WORK PROPERLY. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS ON SOME OF THE STAFF IN PREPARING VOLUNTEER WORK PLAN, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE ACTUALLY HAPPEN AND THEN PUT INTO PRACTICE. SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A NO SOONER THAN SIX MONTHS, BUT I WOULD BE PLEASED IF SHE CAME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME ALREADY. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CHANGES AND SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, BUT I THINK YOU'LL SEE THEM PUT IN PRACTICE AND YOU'LL SEE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. GREAT. AND I HAVE JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. AND THAT IS I NOTICED THAT WITH OUR CONTRACT VET SERVICES, WE THERE WAS SOME DEGREE OF IT WAS IT WAS OUR THIS BUT THERE THAT AND THERE WAS SOME LACK OF COMMON DOCUMENTATION AND COMMON ACCESS AND SECURITY AND, AND SOME OTHER THINGS. IT FELT LIKE THE SOLUTION TO SOME OF THOSE MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE SCOPE OF YOUR AUDIT, OR WERE THEY NOT, BECAUSE I YOU IDENTIFIED PROBLEMS, BUT I DON'T WANT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS TO GET CORRECTED AND NOT THAT ONE TO GET CORRECTED. SO IS THERE A SCOPE FOR GETTING THE VETERINARY SERVICES CORRECTED? WE ISSUED A 2 OR 3 RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND THE SOME OF THE INTERACTIONS BASICALLY WITH VETERINARY SERVICES ESSENTIALLY CONTRACT MANAGEMENT OF THAT OF THAT SERVICE. SO WE DIDN'T WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO LIKE A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF THINGS AS PART OF THE AUDIT. BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CONTRACT. HOW ARE WE MANAGING BILLING AS FAR AS HOURS? HOW ARE WE MANAGING THE NON EUTHANASIA

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DRUGS? WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE EXPECTATIONS AROUND INTAKES, INTAKE EXAMS AND OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. AND THEN WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE. AND THEN BILLING FOR SURGERIES AS WELL.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THAT I MIGHT ADD. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM STAFF I THINK MADISON HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN HER REVIEW OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE VETERINARIANS, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM STAFF THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY HAD MEETINGS WITH THE FINANCE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND LOOK AT HIRING OUR OWN VETERINARIANS. WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTRACT, YOU'RE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE CONTRACT IS. AND THE PEOPLE THAT PUT IN THOSE POSITIONS. AND I WILL TELL YOU, WE'VE HAD SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH THAT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO CERTAINLY SUPPORT AND HELP OUR STAFF SEE IF WE CAN'T GET AT LEAST 1 TO 2 PERMANENT VETS ON STAFF SO THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH THESE THINGS OURSELVES. AND THEY'RE MORE REAL TIME, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE THEY'VE CERTAINLY BEEN THERE WHEN WE NEED THEM. IN CERTAIN CASES, THE OPINIONS OF DIFFERENT VETERINARIANS AND HOW THEY TREAT ANIMALS HAS BEEN A POINT OF CONTENTION FOR US, AS WELL AS THEN WHEN WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT ANIMAL TO AN EMERGENCY VET OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT AND WE FIND A WHOLE DIFFERENT SITUATION THAT OCCURRED THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITH THAT ANIMAL. AND SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE ANIMAL. AND AGAIN, THE CULTURE IS SHIFTING TO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ANIMAL AND WHAT'S BEST FOR AND HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT HAVING OUR OWN VETERINARIANS FULL TIME, AND THEN MAYBE PART TIME, AND THEN ONLY USING AN EMERGENCY CONTRACT VET, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE ONE WHO'S OUTSTANDING. AND THEN GOING THAT DIRECTION, IT'S IN BETTER INTEREST OF OUR, OF OUR OF THE PETS OR THE ANIMALS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT IN. AND IT CERTAINLY HELPS THOSE ANIMALS BECOME MORE READILY READY FOR ADOPTION SOONER, INSTEAD OF WAITING ON SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN GETTING DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS FROM DIFFERENT VETERINARIANS.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCILMEMBER JESTER? THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO APPEAR VIA ZOOM. MADISON HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS WERE INVOLVED IN THE RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION OF THESE MATERIALS? ME, MY STAFF, MY SENIOR AUDITOR. AND THEN WE HAD AN INTERN THAT GREATLY ASSISTED US DURING THE PROCESS. WELL, I AM REALLY AMAZED AT THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS RESEARCHED AS WELL AS PROVIDED, AS WELL AS THE STAFF EFFORTS IN RESPONDING TO EACH OF THEM. IT WAS A LOT, AND I WENT THROUGH IT MORE THAN ONCE, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I NOTED THAT OVER 90 VIDEOS OF THE EUTHANASIA PROCEDURE WERE REVIEWED IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENT WHAT IS IT THAT WE ARE SEEING VERSUS DOCUMENTING VERSUS BEST PRACTICES. AND SO TRULY, THIS WAS. NECESSARY AND INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AND REALLY HELPS US NOT ONLY HAVE A BIRD'S EYE VIEW, BUT REALLY GET INTO SOME OF THE WEEDS OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT ARE ARE NEEDED TO IMPROVE UPON TO HELP THE CITY OF DENTON AND THE DENTON ANIMAL SHELTER COME INTO 2025. I'M WONDERING JUST A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. THEN I'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION AND THE NEXT. BUT WITH THE TWO NEW ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS, FROM WHAT YOU SAW, AS FAR AS BEST PRACTICES AND HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE NEEDED TO MAN THE DESK VERSUS THE ANIMAL CARE, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SUFFICIENT OR ARE WE STILL UNDERWATER AS FAR AS NEEDED STAFF AND BEST PRACTICES FROM FROM YOUR OPINION OR FROM WHAT YOU SAW? I THINK IT WILL CERTAINLY HELP. I THINK THEY THEY WERE ALSO SUFFERING FROM VACANCIES AS WELL. AND SO THEY CAN GET UP TO FULL STAFFING AND HOPEFULLY THAT CAN OCCUR WHEN WE DO THE FALL. BY THE TIME WE DO THE FOLLOW UP, I BELIEVE IT WILL. WE CAN REALLY ASSESS THAT. WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF ANIMAL, AND I KNOW WE'RE PLANNING TO EXPAND THE FACILITY, SO I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF MORE STAFF WAS NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, AND IT SEEMS THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE HEARD FROM SHELTER VOLUNTEERS, NOT ONLY HERE, BUT OTHER PLACES, AS WELL AS CURRENT AND FORMER ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, IS THAT STAFFING IS VERY DIFFICULT, THAT THIS IS HARD, HARD WORK, AND IT IS EMOTIONALLY DRAINING. AND SO I AT SOME POINT HOPE THAT WE HAVE SOME KIND OF HUMAN RESOURCES OR SOME KIND OF SOURCE OF ADDRESSING BURNOUT, OF

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ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT LEAD VACANCY. AND IS IT OUR COMPENSATION PACKET? IS IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT WE BELIEVE COULD BE PART OF THE PROBLEMS IN GETTING THE BEST PEOPLE AT THE FACILITY THAT ARE GOING TO STAY WITH US A FEW YEARS? AND I. OH, SORRY. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST SORRY. BASED ON SOME VERY LIMITED, BECAUSE SOMEBODY REACHED OUT TO US DURING THE AUDIT TO ASK ABOUT OUR OUR COMPENSATION LEVEL, WHO'S DOING THEIR OWN AUDIT OF ANIMAL SERVICES. SO THEY PROVIDED US THAT INFORMATION AND WE WERE ON THE HIGHER END OF THAT. I DON'T WANT TO I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT IN THE REPORT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THAT INFORMATION. BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF ANECDOTAL. BUT AND I DON'T WANT TO STEAL ANYBODY'S THUNDER FROM LATER, BUT I BELIEVE THEY ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE KIND OF BURNOUT, MENTAL HEALTH POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT THAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO. AND I DO WANT TO SAY I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THIS, COUNCIL MEMBER, CHESTER, BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT IS NOT AN EASY JOB TO WORK IN THAT FIELD, PERIOD. EVEN IF THE OPERATIONS ARE WELL MANAGED AND WELL STAFFED. PART OF THE PROBLEM, I BELIEVE, JUST TO BE REAL HONEST WITH YOU, IS WE HAVEN'T HAD THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE'VE NEEDED THERE WHO CREATES A CULTURE OF WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ANIMAL, THAT THAT'S WHAT CHANGES THE CULTURE. BEFORE, IT WAS OPERATED IN A WAY THAT WASN'T BAD, BUT IT WASN'T IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ANIMAL, WHICH IS TAKING THE ANIMAL THAT COMES IN RIGHT OFF THE BAT IF THEY'RE ADOPTABLE, GETTING THEM TO A RESCUE GROUP FIRST, MAKING SURE THAT ANIMALS ARE COMPLETELY LOOKED AT BEFORE THEY GO INTO BEHIND THE AREA, AND IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE FOSTERED OR ADOPTED TO GET THEM OUT QUICKLY BEFORE THEY BECOME WHAT'S CONSIDERED KENNEL CRAZY, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE TO MIND, JUST TO ME ARE JUST COMMON SENSE. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. IT IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW, AND THE STAFF THAT ARE BEING HIRED ARE FOCUSED ON THE BETTER CULTURE OF CARING FOR WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ANIMAL. AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAY IN A MATTER OF SIX MONTHS, WE'VE ALREADY HIRED SOME OUTSTANDING PEOPLE, BAILEY, AND WE'VE GOT MONICA THERE AND THEN SOME NEW STAFF. THAT ANIMAL BEHAVIORIST IS ON BOARD WHO'S MAKING A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AND MAKING A DECISION BETWEEN WHETHER AN ANIMAL IS ACTUALLY AGGRESSIVE OR IT'S BEEN IN A CAGE TOO LONG.

AND THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE HERE. AND SO THAT IN ITSELF MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND SO I DON'T I THINK WHAT WE'LL HAVE HERE IS A PLACE PEOPLE WANT TO WORK. IF THEY'RE IN ANIMAL SERVICES. IT IS A TOUGH IT IS A TOUGH JOB. AND I WILL TELL YOU IT'S ONE THAT I COULDN'T DO MYSELF, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. BUT THE PEOPLE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW CARE ABOUT THAT AND HAVE CHANGED THE CULTURE. AND AS LONG AS WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THEM WITH THE RESOURCES THEY NEED, AND THAT WE DO LOOK AT OUR STAFFING, WHICH WE WILL BE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE AND TRAINED WELL TRAINED STAFF. THEN WE WILL BE THE SHELTER THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO COME TO AND FIGURE OUT HOW DID YOU DO IT? AND SO I AND I MEAN THAT I WOULDN'T JUST BE SAYING THAT I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE THE CASE AND WE HAVE THE COMMITMENT OF OUR CITIZENS. I MEAN, THE BOND THAT PASSED SHOWS WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAS PASSED, HAS SHOWN WE HAVE A VERY SERIOUS COMMITMENT TO INVESTING IN AN EXCELLENT ANIMAL CARE FACILITY.

BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT TO GET THERE. NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDS FOR THE FACILITIES, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CHALLENGE. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SHOWN IS THAT THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES. AND SO WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS PUT ON A FEW PEOPLE'S SHOULDERS THAT ARE WORKING THERE RIGHT NOW, THAT THIS IS ALL FOR YOU TO DO, BUT THAT WE ARE WITH YOU. AND THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO PROVIDE WHAT IS NEEDED TO GET THERE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE POINT OF CONTACT ENTRY THAT HAD WITH THE BAR CODES, YOU KNOW, ATTACHED TO THE, YOU KNOW, EACH ROOM FOR THE ANIMALS. THAT WAS A REAL CONCERN IS THAT WHEN I STARTED READING THE MATERIALS.

BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT TO GO. SO I'LL, I'LL MOVE ON. BUT I DID WANT TO SAY, MADISON, I JUST AM VERY SINCERELY GRATEFUL FOR THE GOOD WORK YOU DID HERE, YOU AND YOUR STAFF, AND GRATEFUL FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER STAFF'S COMMITMENT TO RESPONDING TO EACH OF THESE. THIS IS A LOT OF WORK AND WE'VE GOT A LOT TO GO, BUT THIS IS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. AND WE'RE WITH YOU.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. THE STAFF DID MENTION THE FEES AND UPDATING THOSE. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF BRINGING BACK, BRINGING STAFF, BRINGING BACK FEE UPDATES OR COMMENTS. SO OKAY. AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER THING IS JUST TO NAIL DOWN UPDATE TIMING. I'M FINE WITH THE NINE MONTHS, BUT IF THERE'S OTHERS THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT TIME FRAME IN MIND, I NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU SO THAT WE CAN GIVE MADISON CLEAR DIRECTION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. I SINCE PEOPLE SEEMED ON BOARD WITH THAT, THEY COULD COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS AND ACHIEVE SUCCESS. I'D LIKE TO SEE. I MEAN, I'D HOPE COUNCIL WOULD AGREE THAT I'D LOVE TO REVISIT AND SEE WHAT THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY ISSUES THAT HAD BEEN HIGHLIGHTED. IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO TAKE A BUNCH OF THOSE BOXES OFF. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR? IF IT'S NOT TOO BURDENSOME, I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN SIX MONTHS. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE SIX. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE? YEAH, SIX. EVEN IF IT'S TO SAY SOME THINGS ARE IN PROGRESS AND, YOU KNOW. YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. THAT TAKES

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding recent department reviews, facility and operational enhancements, procedure updates, and current and future department initiatives for Animal Services. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 1 hour]]

US TO OUR NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. MADISON. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B, ID 242538. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD. PARDON ME. RIVERS. RECEIVER. REPORT. HOLD. DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING RECENT DEPARTMENT REVIEW FACILITY OPERATIONS ENHANCEMENTS.

PROCEDURES. UPDATES AND CURRENT AND FUTURE DEPARTMENT INITIATIVES FOR ANIMAL SERVICES.

MAYOR. BEFORE SHE GETS STARTED, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE JESSIE AS WELL BECAUSE JESSIE HAS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE HERE WORKING WITH ANIMAL SERVICES, AND HE ACTUALLY CREATED THE PROGRAM ON THAT'S THE BARCODE WITH THE ANIMAL CAGES WHERE IT SHOWS FED BUT NOT WATERED, WATERED BUT NOT FED WALKED. SO IT'S ALL TECH MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER FOR THE STAFF, WHICH WAS VERY TIME CONSUMING. AND SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO HIM AS WELL. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU JESSIE.

OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCIL. NICKI IS DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL SERVICES. AS SARAH MENTIONED, I DO HAVE JESSIE KENT WITH ME. ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. HE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THESE CHANGES AND BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP TRACK OUR DAILY CARE ACTIVITIES. SO ANIMAL SERVICES, AUDITS AND REVIEWS THE DEPARTMENT HAS UNDERGONE A NUMBER OF THEM OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. THE 2018 REVIEW BY ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 2024 CITY AUDITOR'S REVIEW, WHICH YOU JUST RECEIVED THE FINDINGS ON, AND A LIST AND SUMMARY OF ALL THE FINDINGS ARE ON THE SLIDE CURRENTLY. THIS SLIDE SHOWS A SUMMARY OF ALL THE REVIEWS AND AUDITS, WHERE IT'S KIND OF BOILED DOWN INTO THE MAIN THEMES. ALL REVIEWS AND AUDITS HAVE CENTERED AROUND SOME KEY IDEAS SOPS, DOCUMENTATION, TRACKING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION, EXPANSION OF PROGRAMS, AND FUNCTIONAL FUNCTIONALITY OF THE FACILITY. SO IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE, THAT AUDITS AND REVIEWS ARE A SNAPSHOT OF A CERTAIN POINT OF TIME WHEN THE AUDITOR REVIEWER IS OUT THERE. AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE'S NOT A SINGLE ACCREDITING BODY OF ANIMAL SERVICES. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE THING THAT I FOUND IN COMING OVER FROM PARKS, WHERE YOU HAVE A NATIONAL ACCREDITING BODY FOR POLICE OR FIRE OR FOR PARKS, THERE ISN'T ONE FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, FOR THE INDUSTRY ITSELF. THERE'S A LOT OF BEST PRACTICES, BUT THE BEST PRACTICES VARY BASED ON THE ENTITY THAT YOU ALIGN YOURSELF WITH. SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE. WITHIN OUR INDUSTRY, WE HAVE UNDERGONE SIGNIFICANT CULTURE SHIFT AND MINDSET CHANGES, AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR STAFF AND EVERYONE IN THE DEPARTMENT IS ALIGNED WITH THOSE EXPECTATIONS. OUR MOTTO IN OUR DEPARTMENT IS EVERYONE KNOWS THE BOAT. YOU CAN ASK MY STAFF. WE SAY IT ALL THE TIME, IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO GET ON BOARD, THAT'S FINE. BUT THEN YOU NEED TO FIND YOURSELF A NEW BOAT. WE ARE ALL ALIGNED WITH GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS. WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE OPERATING AT 100%. WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THESE CHANGES AS WELL, AND CHANGE CAN'T BE DONE OVERNIGHT. BUT WE ARE VERY PROUD TO SHARE THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. A FEW OF THESE ARE THE EUTHANASIA POLICY, WHICH MADISON POINTED OUT, THE SCHEDULE OF FEES WHICH WE HAVE STARTED OR HAVE IN PLACE ALREADY, AND THEN RESTRUCTURING OF THE VET SERVICES, ALL OF WHICH WILL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO SOME RECENT IMPROVEMENTS AND INITIATIVES. WE RECOGNIZED THAT

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FOR EVERYONE TO BE ROWING IN THE SAME DIRECTION ON OUR BOAT, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALL READING OUT OF THE SAME BOOK. SO WE HAVE PRIORITIZED SOP DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING, FINDING TIME TO TRAIN AND COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF WAS DIFFICULT FROM THE BEGINNING. WE DID NOT HAVE A DEDICATED TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THE SHELTER DOES OPERATE FROM 10 TO 5, AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE ANIMALS ARE FED AND CLEAN AND READY TO PRESENT BY THAT TIME.

SO WE DID IMPLEMENT THE WEDNESDAY CLOSURES, WHICH ALLOWED FOR DEDICATED STAFF TRAINING TIME. PREVIOUSLY, WHEN OUR STAFF WORKS VARIOUS SHIFTS, IT'S HARD TO GET EVERYONE TOGETHER. WE TRIED DIFFERENT METHODS TO ACHIEVE COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF SUCH AS RECORDING MEETINGS, SCHEDULING REDUNDANT TRAININGS, BUT WE FOUND THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAS THE WEDNESDAY CLOSURES IN NOVEMBER. ALONG WITH THE HELP OF THE HR TEAM, WE DID IMPLEMENT THE IDEAL TEAM PLAYER TRAINING TO REAFFIRM AND RESET EXPECTATIONS AND GOALS WITH STAFF, AND YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF OUR STAFF THERE, OUR TOP DOGS, WHO HAVE BEEN THE HIGHEST UTILIZERS OF OUR TRAINING, OUR NEW TRACKING MODULE TO TOUCH ON COUNCIL MEMBER GESTURES, CONCERN ABOUT THE COMPASSION FATIGUE OR THE TOLL THAT THESE THIS INDUSTRY CAN TAKE ON SOMEONE. WE DO OFFER STAFF ACCESS TO OUR EAP THROUGH HR DEPARTMENT AND COMPASSION FATIGUE TRAINING IS AVAILABLE AS WELL. SO THE EUTHANASIA POLICY, WHICH WE MENTIONED IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR EUTHANASIA PROCEDURE. SOP. SO TWO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE PROCEDURE SOP IS ACTUALLY HOW THE PROCEDURE IS CARRIED OUT.

WHAT WE LACKED IS ANY FORMAL WRITTEN GUIDANCE ON HOW END OF LIFE DECISIONS WERE MADE. SO THE GOAL OF THE EU DECISION MAKING POLICY WAS TO ENSURE LIMITED, CONSISTENT AND DOCUMENTED PRACTICES WERE PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE ALL POSSIBLE RESOURCES AND OPTIONS WERE EXPLORED FIRST.

SO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS, WE DID REVIEW A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POLICIES. BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S A LACK OF STANDARDIZATION. SO AS MANY POLICIES AS YOU HAVE OR AS MANY ENTITIES OUT THERE WHO WHO DO THIS. SO WE DEVELOPED OUR OWN COMPREHENSIVE POLICY, WHICH NOT ONLY GUIDES HOW DECISIONS ARE MADE, BUT IT OUTLINES LIMITS TO EUTHANASIA AND WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE DECISION SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED IN THERE IS THAT NO EUTHANASIA WILL OCCUR ON DAYS THAT THE SHELTER IS CLOSED, OR BEFORE THE END OF THE STRAY HOLD PERIOD. OUR REVIEW TEAM CONSISTS OF A VETERINARIAN, TWO STAFF, PREFERABLY ONES WHO HAVE INTERACTED WITH THE ANIMAL, A MANAGEMENT TEAM MEMBER OR BEHAVIORIST, AND AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER. WE ALSO HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR REVIEWING ANY EMERGENCY EUTHANASIA BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN. BUT THE ANY EMERGENCY EUTHANASIA GOES THROUGH AN AFTER ACTION REVIEW TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY AND THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE. WE DID RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM EXPERTS, INCLUDING THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE WILL BE BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION. JESSICA, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO CALL OUT ON THE EUTHANASIA POLICY. COUNCIL MEMBER JESSICA'S GREAT POINT ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL IMPACT ON EUTHANASIA. OUR POLICY DOES HAVE A CARVEOUT IN IT TO I TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE DIFFICULT TOLL THAT EUTHANASIA MAY TAKE ON STAFF MEMBERS, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSING THEM WITH STAFF MEMBERS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MOST DIFFICULT ABOUT THE SHELTER THAT MADISON SPOKE ABOUT IS THE DAILY TRACKING OF THE CARE ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR IN OUR SHELTER. THE STAFFING IS LIMITED, AS WAS ALSO NOTED, AND PREVIOUSLY CARE TRACKING WAS EITHER INCONSISTENT, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, OR YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF ANYONE'S PLAYED WITH A KENNEL CARD BEFORE, BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SLIDE PAPER IN AND OUT OF IT AND TO MARK THINGS OFF, AND IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE WANTED TO FIND A WAY TO PUT THE BARRIER TO GOOD DOCUMENTATION, DOCUMENTATION AS LOW AS POSSIBLE FOR THE STAFF MEMBERS. THE WAY WE DID THAT IS WE USED A AN ONLINE RELATIONAL DATABASE, AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE DEVELOPED VERY SIMPLE SOFTWARE TO DEVELOP BARCODES UPON INTAKE, TO CODE EACH ANIMAL TO A PARTICULAR ID NUMBER THAT MATCHES UP WITH ITS PET POINT FILE, AND THEN THEY CAN GO THROUGH ON THEIR CELL PHONES NOW, AND WHEN THEY GO THROUGH, THEY CARE FOR AN ANIMAL. THEY DO A PLAY ACTIVITY ENRICHMENT ACTIVITY. THEY TAKE IT FOR A WALK. THEY SCAN THE BARCODE ON THEIR PHONE, THEY MARK OFF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, AND THEN THE SYSTEM IS AUTOMATICALLY LOGGING. WHEN ARE THOSE THINGS OCCURRING? WHO'S DOING THOSE CARE ACTIVITIES? AND THE BIGGEST PIECE FOR US WAS THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CHECKS. SO EVERY DAY, EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL IN THE SHELTER IS CHECKED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT EXHIBITING ANY SIGNS OF ILLNESS. IT IS APPEARS HEALTHY. IT IS BRIGHT, ALERT AND REACTIVE TO THEM. IF THAT IS NOT THE CASE, STAFF MEMBERS MARK IT

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AS SUCH IN THEIR IN THEIR PHONE, IN THEIR SYSTEM. AND THEN BECAUSE ALL OF IT IS TRACKED IN REAL TIME IN THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE ON THE DASHBOARD, IT POPS UP AND SAYS, HEY, THIS ANIMAL NEEDS TO BE CHECKED ON. AND THE EXPECTATION OF SUPERVISORS IS THAT BY THE END OF THE DAY, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ANIMALS THAT HAD ANY SORT OF CONCERN FROM A STAFF MEMBER IS LOOKED AT. IT'S ADDRESSED, AND IT'S LOGGED WITHIN PET POINT. AND SO I THINK THIS IS THIS HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF HELPING TO BE PROACTIVE. PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE WERE DOING THOSE MORNING MEETINGS, THOSE MORNING ROUNDINGS, THAT INFORMATION FLOW WAS GOING FROM STAFF SAYING, HEY, THIS ANIMAL WAS SHOWING CONCERNING THINGS YESTERDAY AND STAFF MEMBER ARE IN SUPERVISORS WERE LOOKING AT THAT AND GOING, OKAY, I NEED TO CHECK ON THAT NOW. THE INFORMATION IS FLOWING THE OTHER WAY. SUPERVISORS ARE SAYING, HEY, WE SAW THESE THINGS HAPPEN YESTERDAY. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE KEEPING AN EYE OUT FOR THESE THINGS. WE DO A WEEKLY REVIEW WHERE WE LOOK THROUGH THE DATA AND WE SAY, WHO'S CONSISTENTLY HAVING TROUBLE? ARE WE ARE WE TAKING THE RIGHT STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE THE SUPERVISOR YESTERDAY AND I'M THE SUPERVISOR TODAY, TOGETHER WE'VE GOT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THE ANIMAL IS TAKEN CARE OF. AND IT ALSO IS GOING TO HELP FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT RESOURCES DO THE SHELTER NEED. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE THAT WE GET OUR OUR WELFARE CHECKS DIALED IN BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE ANIMALS, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY 30% OF OUR ANIMALS RECEIVE A WALK EVERY DAY.

COUNSEL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE SHELTER, 60% OF THE ANIMALS RECEIVE A WALK EVERY DAY. THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE. SO WE'RE WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT CARE IS HAPPENING APPROPRIATELY. WE'RE GETTING GOOD DATA. AS THIS MATURES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FACILITATE BETTER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING FOR ANIMALS IN OUR SHELTER. AND ACTUALLY HERE YOU CAN SEE A PHOTO OF ONE OF OUR NEW STAFF MEMBERS WHO JUST CAME ON, MARYANN. SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED PREVIOUSLY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THE SLIDES FOR THE GREAT AIR PUSH WE DID, BUT LAST MONTH WE FILLED SEVEN VACANCIES. AND THAT WAS IN HUGE PART THANKS TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD WHATEVER WE NEEDED. I SAT IN A LOT OF INTERVIEW PANELS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO GET IT DONE. YEAH, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS ONE ALS, AND AGAIN, GIVE JESSE A LOT OF CREDIT, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AROUND AND WAS TALKING TO SOME OTHER ENTITIES AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ON HOW DO YOU TRACK ANIMALS, HOW DO YOU GET A HANDLE ON WHO'S THERE? BECAUSE THERE HAD TO BE A BETTER WAY.

WE'RE LIKE A HOSPITAL. THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY TO TRACK CARE. A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS WERE, WELL, YOU CAN HAVE A PAPER LOG OR YOU CAN PUT A WHITEBOARD UP IN THE OFFICE. THAT JUST SEEMS RIDICULOUS IN THE 21ST CENTURY. SO TALK TO JESSE ABOUT IT. AND HE SAID, WELL, WE CAN BUILD THAT. AND THIS IS WHAT WE GOT OUT OF IT. AND IT IS INCREDIBLE TO SEE IN REAL TIME.

I CAN TRACK IT FROM MY PHONE AT HOME. WHO'S RECEIVING MEDS, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THIS? AND IT'S FANTASTIC. SO IN THE OFFICE WE CAN SEE IT IF, IF WE'RE OUT OF SIGHT, IF WE'RE IN ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN REAL TIME IN OUR SHELTER WITH EACH ANIMAL IN OUR CARE. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THIS KITTEN HERE IS CASHEW. THIS IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE EARLY INTERVENTION APPROACH AND EARLY IDENTIFICATION IDENTIFICATION APPROACH. THIS KITTEN WASN'T EATING FOR TWO DAYS, SO WE SYRINGE FED IT AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO PLACE IT WITH A FOSTER. PREVIOUSLY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT AS QUICKLY OR AS EASILY BECAUSE YOU HAVE STAFF ROTATING THROUGH CONSTANTLY. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE, HEY, THIS KITTEN NEEDS ATTENTION NOW AND GET IT APPROPRIATE CARE QUICKLYAM. SO E ADDITIONAL OPERATIONAL ENHANCEMENTS. WE TALKED ABOUT STAFFING AND CAPACITY FOR CARE. CAPACITY FOR CARE IS THE SHELTER'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE HOUSING AND CARE ACTIVITIES FOR IN HOUSE ANIMALS.

PER THE GUIDELINES, EACH ANIMAL REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 15 MINUTES OF CARE FOR CLEANING AND FEEDING. YOU HEARD MADISON SAY THAT IN IN THE AUDIT. AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, THAT'S WITH NO ADDITIONAL CARE ACTIVITIES. SO THAT IS BASIC MINIMUM. I'M TAKING YOU OUTSIDE, I'M CLEANING YOUR KENNEL AND THEN I'M GIVING YOU FOOD. THERE'S NO ENRICHMENT, THERE'S NO WALKS, THERE'S NO PLAYS, THERE'S NO SOCIALIZATION. DURING THAT TIME, WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE DEPARTMENT DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO MEET THE MINIMUM CARE THROUGH THE ADDITION OF TWO ADDITIONAL ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS LAST YEAR, WE HAVE THOSE POSITIONS FILLED NOW, ALONG WITH THE OTHER VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE. BUT THAT AGAIN JUST MEETS THE MINIMUM STANDARDS OF PROVIDING CARE OR CLEANING AND FEEDING TO THE ANIMALS. WE ALSO ADDED A BEHAVIORIST, WHICH YOU'LL SEE HERE LATER. UNDER STAFFING. WE RECOGNIZE THAT LED TO POOR AND INADEQUATE DOCUMENTATION AND TRACKING OF

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DAILY CARE ACTIVITIES. YOU DID SEE THAT WE HAVE THE DAILY STAFF TRACKER NOW, WHICH WE JUST SHOWED. WE HAVE ALSO LEVERAGED TECHNOLOGY IN OTHER WAYS. WE CREATED ELECTRONIC VET CHECK FORM. SO WHEN STAFF NOTICES THAT SOMETHING IS A MEDICAL CONCERN, THEY CAN FILL OUT A FORM. IT'S STANDARDIZED, IT'S AVAILABLE ON THEIR PHONE, AND IT GETS SENT DIRECTLY TO OUR VET STAFF, WHO THEN CAN TRACK AND FOLLOW THAT, GO COMPLETE THE EXAM, AND THEN MARK THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED THE EXAM AND STAFF HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO THAT PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE PAPER RECORDS AND EITHER THEY'D GET LOST WET, MISPLACED, FORGOT TO FILL IT OUT. SO NOW IT'S DONE IN REAL TIME. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED THE CASE MANAGEMENT MODULE FROM PET POINT PREVIOUSLY INCIDENT REPORTS MADISON MENTIONED THAT IN HER REPORT AS WELL. IT'S NOT SURE WHAT WAS DOCUMENTED OR WHEN. WE DO HAVE THE CASE MANAGEMENT MODULE, WHICH WE IMPLEMENTED IN JULY, AND THAT ALLOWS OFFICERS TO RECORD ALL PARTS OF A CASE INTO THE PET POINT SYSTEM AND THEN TIE IT EITHER TO A PERSON OR A PET. SO PHOTOS, FILES, CITATIONS, ALL OF THOSE GET TRACKED IN THERE NOW AS WELL. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED TRAINING RECORDS. WE DO HAVE A ELECTRONIC REPOSITORY NOW FOR ALL OF OUR TRAINING RECORDS. SO SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAM IMPROVEMENTS. WE ARE WORKING TO REBUILD TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY. EFFORTS HAVE FOCUSED ON SERVICE. WE ARE A COMMUNITY SERVICE AND WE SERVE THE PEOPLE AND THE PETS. THAT'S A BIG MINDSET CHANGE FOR US AS WELL. IN APRIL, WITH THE HELP OF STRATEGIC SERVICES OFFICE, WE LAUNCHED THE PERFORMANCE SCORECARD DASHBOARD. IT IS A PUBLIC FACING DATA SYSTEM THAT SHOWS ALL OF OUR NUMBERS. IT'S PROVIDING TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC ON THE NUMBER OF EUTHANASIAS. OUR DEPARTMENT PERFORMS CALLS FOR SERVICE, THE NUMBER OF ADOPTIONS WE HAVE, INTAKE NUMBERS, AND OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE THAT'S UPDATED MONTHLY AND IS AVAILABLE ANYTIME ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE, DISPATCH AND THE WEBMASTER TO ENSURE CORRECT AND CONSISTENT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC, FOUND ANIMALS AND AVAILABLE ANIMALS ARE ALWAYS VISIBLE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE 24 OVER SEVEN. SO IF SOMEONE'S LOOKING TO SEE IF WE HAVE THEIR ANIMAL EVEN AFTER HOURS, THEY CAN CHECK THE WEBSITE THERE. AND THEN WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON UPSTREAM INTERVENTIONS TO PROACTIVELY ADDRESS ADDRESS ANIMAL WELFARE.

SO COMMUNITY NEEDS AND PET POPULATION THROUGH EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH. IN MAY, WE NOTICED AN UPTICK IN DISTEMPER CASES IN RACCOONS IN IDIOTS HILL AREA. AND WE DO HAVE A LARGE UNHOUSED POPULATION THAT HAS THAT HAVE PETS, UNHOUSED PETS IN THAT AREA AS WELL. NOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT AN UPTICK IN RACCOONS COULD HAVE A HIGHER UPTICK IN DISTEMPER OF ANIMALS COMING INTO THE SHELTER, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF COMING INTO CONTACT WITH THEM IF THEY'RE UNHOUSED. SO WE TRY TO PROACTIVELY MITIGATE THAT BY PARTNERING WITH ODB AND GIVING GRACE TO HAVE A TARGETED VACCINATION CLINIC AND MICROCHIP CLINIC AT THE ODB SHELTER. AND YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR VETERINARIANS AT OUR VETERINARY STAFF OUT HERE, ALONG WITH OUR ANIMAL SERVICES SUPERVISOR. AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF BEAR. HE IS ONE OF THE ANIMALS THAT CAME IN AND RECEIVED VACCINATIONS AND A MICROCHIP AND A GENERAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT FROM OUR VETERINARIAN, AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO COORDINATE HAVING HIM COME IN TO HAVE HIS STERILIZATION SURGERY DONE AS WELL. SO THAT WAS A FANTASTIC RESULT OF THE OUTREACH EFFORT AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THOSE IN AS WE PROGRESS. SO WE KNOW ONE OF THE KEYS TO OUR SUCCESS IS THE ENHANCEMENT AND FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF OUR FOSTER AND VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. FOSTERS AND VOLUNTEERS PROVIDE FOR THE WELFARE OF ANIMALS BECAUSE IT GETS THEM OUT OF THE SHELTER ENVIRONMENT AND EXPANDS CARE THROUGH SOCIALIZATION AND ENRICHMENT. WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO CAN COME TAKE THEM FOR A WALK, PLAY FETCH, TEACH THEM COMMANDS, SOCIALIZE THE ANIMALS SO THAT THEY MAKE BETTER CANDIDATES FOR ADOPTION, AND END UP IN A POSITIVE OUTCOME. IN MAY, WE IMPLEMENTED IMPLEMENTED A NEW TRAINING AND ORIENTATION PROGRAM WITH ON DEMAND TRAINING MATERIALS FOR VOLUNTEERS. AND SINCE JUNE 2024, WE'VE HAD OVER 2000 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO OUR SHELTER. AND OUR FOSTER PROGRAM. WE'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL AT SUPPORTING KITTENS. WE'VE HAD OVER 500 THIS YEAR. BABY BABY BABY KITTENS, NEONATE KITTENS THAT WE'VE PUT OUT IN FOSTER CARE SO THEY DO NOT STAY IN THE SHELTER BECAUSE WE CANNOT PROVIDE 24 HOUR CARE WHICH THEY WHICH THEY REQUIRE. WE REALIZE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS EFFORTS ON CANINES AS WELL. SO BAILEY, OUR NEW SUPERVISOR, IMPLEMENTED THE HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ESF. SHE HAD A GOAL OF TEN DOGS TO GET OUT FOR THE

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HOLIDAYS AND ACTUALLY GET IT GOT 20 OUT. SO THEY WERE OUT OF THE SHELTER ALL THROUGH CHRISTMAS AND ALL THROUGH NEW YEARS, AND 11 OF THOSE FAILED. THEY RESULTED IN PERMANENT ADOPTIONS, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. YEAH, WE'VE PREVIOUSLY IT'S FANTASTIC. WE'VE PREVIOUSLY HAD ONE PERSON TO SUPPORT BOTH THE FOSTER AND VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS, WHICH IS A LOT FOR ONE PERSON TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND GROW. WE HAVE A NEW BEHAVIOR PLACEMENT COORDINATOR, TRINITY, WHO JUST STARTED, AND SHE WILL BE CHARGED WITH BUILDING UP AND EXPANDING THE FOSTER PROGRAM AND ELIMINATING BARRIERS. WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE FOSTERING AS EASY AND ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. AND SHE IS GOING TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS WILLIAMS, HE AND SUE. SUE IS ONE OF OUR GREAT VOLUNTEERS AND A FOSTER AS WELL. WILLIAMS CAME IN AS A PARVO PUPPY. HE WAS FOUND AS A STRAY. IN THE PAST, WE DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT OUTCOME FOR PARVO PUPPIES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T. WE CAN'T JEOPARDIZE THE HEALTH OF THE REST OF THE ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER. HOWEVER, WITH OUR PARTNERS AT DSF AND DENTON COUNTY ANIMAL CARE, WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSPORT WILLIAMS OVER FOR TREATMENT. AND THEN FROM THE E.R. HE WAS PLACED DIRECTLY WITH A FOSTER SUE, WHO KEPT HIM AFTER HIS TREATMENT IN THE HOSPITAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS UNTIL HIS BODY WAS COMPLETELY DONE SHEDDING THE VIRUS. AND FROM THERE HE CAME BACK ON A FRIDAY AND WAS ADOPTED ON SATURDAY, SO IT WAS FANTASTIC. TO GIVE BACK TO JESSE. YEAH, WILLIAMS IS A GREAT STORY ABOUT THE THAT CULTURE SHIFT, THAT THAT CHANGE OF MENTALITY BECAUSE PARVO IS AN EXPENSIVE DISEASE TO TREAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP TAKING THOSE ON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ASF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST OUTCOME FOR ALL OF OUR ANIMALS. ANOTHER THING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FOSTER PROGRAM GROWTH, THERE ARE ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE SHELTER FOR EITHER A LENGTH OF TIME THAT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM. THEY'RE HAVING BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. MAYBE THEY HAVE A MEDICAL PROBLEM. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE ANIMALS NEED TO GET OUT OF THE SHELTER AND INTO FOSTER PLACEMENTS SOON, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BAILEY DEVELOPED AS OUR OUTCOME SUPERVISOR WAS AN URGENT PLACEMENT LIST. SO THIS LIST IS WITH OUR PARTNERS. NOW WE'RE GETTING OUR FOSTER WEBSITE FINISHED UP SO FOLKS CAN SEE MORE ABOUT HOW TO APPLY TO BE A FOSTER, HOW THEY CAN GET INVOLVED, AND THEN BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE THINK ARE MOST IN NEED OF URGENT PLACEMENT. AND THAT'S BASED ON CRITERIA THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED. IT'S GOT SOME NICE ABOUT ME'S. IT'S SOME NICE PICTURES. THANKS TO THE ASF FOR TAKING SUCH GREAT PICTURES ALL THE TIME AND GIVES THEM SOME SOME DIFFERENT INFORMATION. SO REALLY FOCUSING ON PLACING ANIMALS IN FOSTER CARE, GETTING THEM OUT OF THE SHELTER, GETTING THEM THOSE POSITIVE OUTCOMES. YOU KNOW, AND THE GREAT COORDINATION WITH THE ASF WAS ALWAYS THE AREA RUNNING CLUB AND THEN RESCUES. WE'VE RESCUED THREE ANIMALS I THINK THIS MONTH. AND THOSE ARE THE FIRST TIME FIRST ANIMALS WE'VE GOTTEN OUT TO RESCUES AND I THINK THREE YEARS. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON AND IMPROVING. JUST TO TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT IS IT IS A FANTASTIC WAY OF HAVING THE PARTNERS AND OUR FOSTERS ALSO BE ABLE TO SELF SERVE THEMSELVES, BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE WHICH ANIMALS ARE AVAILABLE AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR SYSTEM, WHICH WE DON'T WANT, WHICH THE AUDITOR SAYS THEY SHOULDN'T. AND SO AND SO IT ALLOWS THEM TO SEE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ANIMAL PICTURES WE CAN UPLOAD VIDEOS ON HERE. IT GIVES BREED INFORMATION, AGE INFORMATION AND THEN A DESCRIPTION ABOUT THE ANIMAL. SO IF I'M SITTING AT HOME AND I SAY HEY I WANT TO HELP OUT. AND LET'S SEE, I HAVE ROOM IN MY HOUSE FOR A FOSTER. I CAN GO IN AND SEE. AND THIS IS A LITTLE MORE APPEALING THAN JUST CALLING UP AND SAYING, HEY, I'D LIKE TO FOSTER ONE. IT MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR STAFF, AND TWO, IT MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE ANIMALS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS UP HERE NOW, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO RELY ON STAFF TRYING TO SORT THROUGH AND MAYBE IDENTIFY AN ANIMAL. SO OUR SHELTER FACILITY WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED ON THE REVIEWS AND THE AUDITS AS HAVING SOME FUNCTIONALITY CONCERNS. THE CURRENT FACILITY WAS BUILT IN 2015. IT WAS A HUGE UPGRADE FROM THE PREVIOUS FACILITY, BUT WE HAVE OUTGROWN THE SPACE AND NEED TO ADDRESS ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONAL ISSUES WITHIN THE FACILITY ITSELF. WITH HELP FROM FACILITIES, WE HAVE TACKLED SOME REGULAR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND WORKED ON ADDITIONAL FACILITY ENHANCEMENTS. YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF OUR NEW X RAY ROOM. THAT X RAY MACHINE WAS PURCHASED FROM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ASF. THEY PROVIDED A GRANT TO PROCURE THAT.

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PREVIOUSLY WE HAD TO OUTSOURCE ALL OF OUR RADIOGRAPHS, WHICH IS QUITE COSTLY AT ABOUT 125 TO 175 PER IMAGE, AND THAT CAN GET REALLY COSTLY IF YOU'RE NEEDING TO GET 2 OR 3 IMAGES PER ANIMAL.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO WEIGH, WELL, DO WE REALLY NEED TO OUTSOURCE IT AND GET RADIOGRAPHS OR DO WE NOT. NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE CAN STAFF SAYS HEY SOMETHING'S WRONG OR MAYBE SOMETHING'S GOING ON AND I WANT A PICTURE OF IT. WE CAN PUT IT ON THE TABLE AND GET A PICTURE RIGHT. THEN IT INCREASES THE SPEED WITH WHICH WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE TREATMENT. AND IT'S ALSO BEEN A BIG RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE FOUNDATION. WE DID THE MATH THE LAST TIME WE WENT AND PRESENTED TO THE FOUNDATION, AND THE NUMBER OF X RAYS WE TOOK, WE SAVED ABOUT $20,000 IN OUTSOURCING FOR RADIOGRAPHS. AND THAT'S JUST IN THE FIRST YEAR. WE ALSO ENHANCE THE SQUAD ROOM, ADDED LIGHTING TO THE LARGE YARD AND ARE IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW WORKING WITH FACILITIES TO UPGRADE OUR BADGE ACCESS SO THAT WE CAN BETTER CONTROL ACCESS TO OUR FACILITY AND TURN IT ON AND OFF AS NEEDED, RATHER THAN KEYS OR HAVING RANDOM BADGES FLOAT AROUND. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE AUDITS REINFORCE THE APPROPRIATE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE BOND PROJECT SCOPE, AND THE SCOPE INCLUDES THE EXPANSION OF THE FACILITY SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO VIEW ALL ADOPTABLE AND STRAY DOGS, REPLACING THE HVAC SYSTEM AND SEPARATION OF SICK AND HEALTHY POPULATIONS, RELOCATION OF THE VETERINARY SERVICES, AND RENOVATING HOUSING ROOMS FOR GREATER EFFICIENCY, AND MOVING THE YARDS CLOSER TO THE HOUSING AREAS. SO THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE MAJOR UPGRADES AND CHANGES TO ADDRESS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. SEPARATE ENTRANCES IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE NOT ONLY FOR OPERATIONS, HAVING SOMEONE SURRENDER AN ANIMAL, YOU DON'T WANT THEM IN THE SAME LOBBY BECAUSE THAT'S AN EMOTIONAL THING. AS SOMEONE WHO'S ADOPTING AN ANIMAL OR SOMEONE WHO'S MAYBE COMING IN BECAUSE THEIR ANIMAL HAS PARVO OR IS SICK, THAT ALSO HELPS WITH CROSS-CONTAMINATION AND DISEASE MITIGATION, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTRANCES FOR HEALTHY ANIMALS ARE DIFFERENT FROM SICK ANIMALS IN ANIMAL HOUSING AND VISITATION ROOMS. AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE THERE, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE SOME OF GREAT SPACE FOR CATS, RIGHT? OUR HOUSING. NOW, WHEN PEOPLE COME IN TO VISIT WITH ANIMALS, THEY GO RIGHT INTO THE BACK AREA OF THE ALL THE CAT HOUSING. SO ADDING VISITATION ROOMS AND ADDITIONAL MEET AND GREET ROOMS SO WE CAN ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR PEOPLE TO WAIT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO MEET AN ANIMAL. YARD ACCESS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ANIMAL HOUSING. I THINK, COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER BECK, YOU SAW THAT FIRSTHAND.

AND COMING TO WALK DOGS ON THANKSGIVING, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE DOGS FROM THE ADOPTABLE AREA, THROUGH THE LOBBY, THROUGH THE TRAINING ROOM, OUT TO THE YARD TO CLEAN AND THEN WALK THEM BACK. SO THE RENOVATION RELOCATES THESE YARDS CLOSER TO THE ANIMAL HOUSING AREAS, ONE THAT HELPS WITH DISEASE CONTROL AND ALSO INCREASES OUR EFFICIENCY. ANOTHER ONE IS THE PROGRAM SPACE. WE DON'T WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE SPACES TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR PROGRAMS, SUCH AS AN EXAM AREA FOR FOSTERS OR A DEDICATED VOLUNTEER SPACE. HAVING A DEDICATED VOLUNTEER SPACE WHERE VOLUNTEERS CAN FEEL WELCOMED, THEY CAN CHECK IN. THEY CAN LEAVE THEIR PURSE, THEIR KEYS IN A SECURED AREA. CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AND THIS BOND BOND PROJECT ADDRESSES THAT. ADDITIONALLY, THE EXPANSION OF THE CLINIC AND WORK SPACE THERE, IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE IN HOUSE, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO WORK AND THEN ALSO EXPAND THE STAGING AND RECOVERY AREA, AND ALSO THE OPERATING ROOM FOR A CLINIC TO BE ABLE TO MORE EFFICIENTLY SERVE OUR SPAY AND NEUTER SERVICE OR SPAY NEUTER REQUIREMENTS. SO, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WORK HAS BEEN CONTINUOUS AND ONGOING, AND WE HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF DOING THIS WHILE WE'RE WHILE WE ARE REMAINING 100% OPERATIONAL. IN MAY, WE MADE UPDATES TO CHAPTER SIX, WHICH INCLUDED MANDATORY MICROCHIPPING ON INTAKE. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH PROCUREMENT TO AMEND AND CORRECT THE VETERINARY SERVICES CONTRACT. WE'RE WORKING WITH BUDGET AND HR TO BRING VETERINARY SERVICES POSITIONS IN HOUSE. WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT FEES ARE OUT OF DATE AND NOT IN LINE WITH CURRENT PRACTICES. AND WE'RE WORK WORK TO DO A DEPARTMENT COST OF STUDY AND IMPLEMENT APPROPRIATE FEES. AND ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. IN ADDITION TO THE EUTHANASIA POLICY, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING TOWARD SHORING UP OUR PROCESSES, DEVELOPING STAFF, ENHANCING ANIMAL WELFARE, AND IMPLEMENT TARGETED UPSTREAM INTAKE DIVERSIONS, BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO ADOPT A WAY OUT, OUR WAY OUT OF THE OVERPOPULATION.

SO I DO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK STAFF. THIS IS NOT DONE BY ME ALONE. WE HAVE A FANTASTIC

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TEAM. BAILEY MONICA IS PART OF THAT TEAM. JESSE'S BEEN PART OF THAT TEAM OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, AND IT REALLY HAS BEEN A TEAM EFFORT TO MAKE THIS MUCH PROGRESS AND TO CONTINUE THESE EFFORTS AND TO CHANGE THE CULTURE. SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE AND THANK THEM AND THEN POINT OUT, MISHA, SHE IS OUR UNOFFICIAL KITTEN LADY. A LOT OF FACILITIES DON'T TREAT FOR RINGWORM. IT IS HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A DEDICATED SPACE AND ALSO A PROTOCOL IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO TREAT RINGWORM. IT TAKES ABOUT 4 TO 6 WEEKS AND IT REQUIRES A VERY SMELLY LIME DIP TWICE A WEEK. AND MISHA IS SOMEONE WHO REALLY ENJOYS DOING THAT AND HAS. WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN TREATING RINGWORM AND GETTING CATS ADOPTED AFTER THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR TREATMENT. SO. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. AND WE'LL PULL THAT DOWN SO I CAN SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHESTER. YES QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. EXCELLENT REPORT. I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE MANDATORY CHIP UPON INTAKE AND. VACCINATIONS UPON INTAKE. IS THAT AFTER THE 72 HOUR PERIOD? NO. IT IS AS THEY COME INTO THE SHELTER. ONE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ANIMAL IS MICROCHIPPED SO THAT IF IT DOES GET OUT AGAIN, WHEN AN OWNER COMES TO RECLAIM, WE CAN GET THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, MAKE SURE IT IS IN OUR SYSTEM AND IS AVAILABLE IN THE MICROCHIP UNIVERSAL MICROCHIP DATABASE. SO IF THAT ANIMAL GETS OUT AGAIN, WE CAN REUNITE THEM. IT'S ALSO ALLOWS US TO KNOW WHO. MAYBE WE'VE SERVICED MULTIPLE TIMES AND TRACKS ALL OF THE INFORMATION FOR THAT ANIMAL. SO LET'S SAY YOUR ANIMAL GETS OUT, WE BRING IT IN, WE VACCINATE IT. WE WANT TO VACCINATE IT ON INTAKE BECAUSE WE WANT TO PREVENT DISEASE SPREAD WITHIN OUR FACILITY. THEN WE KNOW, OKAY, WELL, THIS ANIMAL JUST GOT ITS RABIES VACCINATION TWO WEEKS AGO. WE DON'T WANT TO HIT IT AGAIN. AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY SECOND QUESTIONS. AND THIS MAY BE A VETERINARY QUESTION. CAN CAN A IS THERE ANY DANGER IN VACCINATING AN ALREADY VACCINATED ANIMAL. NO, WE DON'T VACCINATE VERY YOUNG ANIMALS BECAUSE BEFORE SIX MONTHS FOR RABIES. BUT OTHER THAN THAT VACCINE EVERYTHING GETS VACCINATED. IT'S LIKE SENDING YOUR KID TO DAYCARE. THEY CATCH EVERYTHING. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE THEM WITH AS MUCH IMMUNITY AS WE CAN UPON INTAKE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. IT'S CERTAINLY INCREDIBLY HEARTENING SEEING THE PASSION AND THE INNOVATIVENESS AND THE DISCIPLINE THAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO ALL OF THE ASPECTS OF THE OPERATION. I WONDER IF YOU COULD, AS A BIT OF A TEST CASE, STEP THROUGH. YOU KNOW, THE EVENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE GUNNER CASE AND HOW THOSE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN CHANGED AND IS PLANNED, HOW THOSE WOULD OR WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED THE SAME WAY. YOU FOLLOW ME? SURE. I GUESS THE BIGGEST CHANGE WOULD BE THE STANDARD AND FORMALIZED WRITTEN EUTHANASIA POLICY, THE DECISION MAKING POLICY. YOU CAN SEE IN OUR DATA. WE DID TAKE A PAUSE AFTER THAT INCIDENT AND RECOGNIZE THAT WHILE WE WERE REVIEWING CASES AND DISCUSSING CASES, WE DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT WAY TO DOCUMENT OR CONSISTENT WAY OF HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THOSE END OF LIFE DISCUSSIONS.

AND SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DEVELOPING THAT POLICY AS A RESULT OF THAT INCIDENT, AND MADE SURE THAT WE HAVE ONE THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF AND IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE, THAT IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES AND THE LIMITATIONS TO EUTHANASIA AND WHY IT WOULD BE PERFORMED. IT CATEGORIES CATEGORIZES WHY SOMEONE OR AN ANIMAL WOULD END UP AT A REVIEW TEAM. IT ESTABLISHES THE REVIEW TEAM ITSELF AND MAKES SURE THAT WE HAVE INPUT FROM ALL OF THE CONCERNED PARTIES AND KNOWLEDGEABLE PARTIES, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENT IT AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. ALL. WHEN AN ANIMAL COMES IN AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST DOGS, CATS, RACCOONS, SQUIRRELS. YEAH. EVERYBODY GETS CHIPPED.

EVERYBODY. HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHAT DOES CHIPPING GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE EDUCATION ABOUT HOW CHIP SURE A MICROCHIP IS VERY SMALL. IT LOOKS IT'S INJECTED THROUGH USE OF A NEEDLE SUBCUTANEOUSLY. SO IT GOES TYPICALLY THROUGH THE SHOULDER IN THE SHOULDER BLADES OF A DOG OR CAT. THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY ANIMALS THAT WE MICROCHIP. WE HAVE MICROCHIPS, A RABBIT DURING

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OUR VACCINATION AND MICROCHIP CLINIC AT OADBY, WE HAD SOMEONE BRING A RABBIT. WE DID MICROCHIP THAT RABBIT, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW THE MICROCHIPPING OCCURS. WE DON'T MICROCHIP WILDLIFE THAT IS BROUGHT IN. SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES IT DOES. AND THAT ALSO ANSWERS THE QUESTION THAT WILDLIFE IS BROUGHT IN. YES. OKAY. SO WITH THIS CHIP THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHIP. CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME AN IDEA OF AN AVERAGE COST OF CHIPPING AN ANIMAL. SURE. SO IN THE CURRENT FEE, PROPOSED FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO COUNCIL, WE ARE PROPOSING CHARGING $25 FOR THE SERVICE. AND ■THAT INCLUDES THE CHIP ITSELF BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PURCHASE THAT. IT INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATION OF ACTUALLY STAFF TIME, PUTTING IT INTO THE SYSTEM, AND THEN THE STAFF WHO ARE ADMINISTERING THE COST OF THE STAFF TO ADMINISTER THE MICROCHIP. OKAY. ALSO, IN THE END, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, KIND OF LIKE REAL TIME. ARE YOU ARE YOU ALL USING YOUR PERSONAL PHONES FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS? AND ALSO, IF A STAFF MEMBER LEAVES, ALL OF THAT DATA IS JUST WIPED OUT OF THE PHONE ITSELF. SO AND ALSO CAN THE ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS SEE EVERYTHING OR IS IT JUST LEVELED. SO BOTH OF THOSE ARE CLOUD BASED SYSTEMS OKAY. SO THERE'S NOTHING ACTUALLY DOWNLOADED HARD ONTO THE PHONE. THERE IS AN APP FOR AIRTABLE, WHICH IS THE WHAT WE USE FOR OUR NEW MONITORING SYSTEM. BUT ACCESS TO THAT IS GRANTED THROUGH THE CITY EMAIL ADDRESS SO WE CAN IN REAL TIME, TAKE OUT THE ACCESS, ADD THE ACCESS, AND THEN WITHIN PET POINT, WHICH IS OUR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND WITHIN THE TRACKING SYSTEM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND THOSE VARYING LEVELS GIVE YOU DIFFERENT ACCESS TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND ALSO VIEW DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WELL, I'M JUST HIGHLY IMPRESSED. YES, YOU. OH SORRY. I WAS GOING TO SAY AS FAR AS THIS PERSONAL CELL PHONE, WE DO, WE DO STAFF DOES USE THEIR PERSONAL CELL PHONES. THEY DO RECEIVE A CELL PHONE REIMBURSEMENT. WE ALSO IF THEY DON'T CAN'T USE THEIR CELL PHONE, WHICH IS FINE, BUT MOST OF THEM HAVE IT ON THEM ANYWAYS. IT'S JUST AN EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT. WE DO HAVE SOME TOUGHBOOK TABLETS THAT THEY CAN TAKE, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME DEPARTMENT CELL PHONES SO THAT OUR OFFICERS USE THAT THEY COULD USE FOR THAT. OKAY. AND SO IT'S JUST A CHOICE OF WHAT THEY LIKE TO USE AT THIS POINT. YEAH. WELL I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. THIS IS JUST I'M SO PROUD. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE CITY OF DENTON, WHICH IS ALWAYS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING. AND THIS IS JUST ONE ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD BE PROUD OF. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE JUST I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY. IT'S JUST IT'S OVERWHELMING. I TOLD JESSE HE SHOULD PATENT IT AND START SELLING IT. I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT. AND THEN SO THE PUBLIC CAN JUST GO ON TO THE CITY OF DENTON. ANIMAL CARE FACILITY AND ALL OF THIS STUFF WILL COME UP VERY EASILY WHERE THEY CAN KIND OF PERUSE THROUGH THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY LIKE, SEE THE NICE LITTLE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING OF. YEAH. SO THE THAT ONE IS FORTHCOMING. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON MAKING THAT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THE ONE THAT WE SHARED WITH ALL THE NICE PICTURES. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR OUR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO FACILITATE ALL OF OUR PET RECORDS POPULATES ONTO OUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW. AND IT HAS ALL OF OUR FOUND ANIMALS ON STRAY HOLD AND THEN ALSO ALL OF OUR AVAILABLE ADOPTABLE ANIMALS.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE WILL BE ADDING THE ADDITIONAL DASHBOARD WITH THE PRETTY PICTURES AND THE ENHANCED DESCRIPTIONS THAT FOSTERS, CAN THEN ACCESS OR ANYONE CAN ACCESS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO FORMER PHYSICIST JESSE KENT FOR THE SOFTWARE. SO WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ANALYZE DATA PROPERLY. APPRECIATE THAT THE AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO STAFF AND SENIOR STAFF. I KNOW THERE WAS CONSTERNATION ABOUT HOW WE EVALUATED SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES, BUT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BRINGING IN AN ADDITIONAL EXPERT TO HELP US TRIANGULATE IN ON WHETHER WE HAD REVIEWED THE REVIEWS PROPERLY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT, JESSE, WHEN OR EITHER ANYBODY WHEN DID YOU IMPLEMENT THE NEW DIGITAL KENNEL CARDS? SO WE STARTED TESTING THAT IN LATE OCTOBER. WE STARTED USING THE SYSTEM FULLY NOVEMBER

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15TH. OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALL LOGGED. AND SO I HAVE SORT OF TWO. YEAH, IT'S NOT SURPRISING. I HAVE SORT OF TWO DATA BASED QUESTIONS. A THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY MANUAL ISSUES OR, OR TIME CONSUMING ISSUES WITH GETTING YOUR NEW DATA INTO PET POINT. AND THAT RELATES TO MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IS TIME CONSUMING OR YOU'VE GOT IT AUTOMATED. SO THE LAST MONTH WE SECURED API ACCESS TO PET POINTS. SO THE APPLICATION PROGRAMING INTERFACE. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON ALL OF THE AUTOMATIONS AND FLESHING THIS OUT. BUT IT ALLOWS OUR AIRTABLE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT HAS A GREAT FLEXIBLE API TOOL TO JUST PING PET POINT PULL INFORMATION OUT OF IT, AND HAVE IT IN IN THE SYSTEM AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE STAFF. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN A STAFF MEMBER SCANS A BARCODE, IT PINGS PET POINT SAYS, OKAY, THIS IS THIS ANIMAL'S NAME, THIS IS THEIR LOCATION. AND WHERE PREVIOUSLY STAFF WOULD HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE SHELTER WITH A PRINTOUT OF THE INVENTORY AND GO, WELL, THIS ANIMAL IS NOT HERE. THIS ANIMAL IS NOT HERE. NOW IT POPS UP IN THEIR PHONE. THEY JUST SAY, NOPE, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THEY TYPE IN IT'S ACTUAL LOCATION AND A SUPERVISORY STAFF MEMBER UPDATES IT IN PET POINT.

SO THE AIRTABLE PET POINT TALKS TO AIRTABLE. PET POINT DOESN'T HAVE A WAY FOR ME TO PUSH INFORMATION INTO IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP WITH THE AUDITOR WAS THAT AT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD TRANSITIONED FROM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PREVIOUS PET POINT COMPETITOR, AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES HAD ARISEN FROM NOT TRANSITIONING ALL THE AVAILABLE DATA FROM THE ONE SYSTEM TO THE NEXT, AND DIFFERENCES IN TRAINING. HOW HAVE WE HAVE WE GOTTEN THAT OLD INFORMATION INTO PET POINT NOW SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO RECAPITULATE SOME OF THOSE MISTAKES. SO ONCE WE FOUND OUT THAT THAT SYSTEM HAD ADDITIONAL OR WAS STILL ACCESSIBLE, WE DID REACH OUT TO PET POINT TO SEE IF WE COULD.

MIGRATE ALL OF THAT DATA OVER. THE PROBLEM IS THAT NOW THAT WE'VE USED PET POINT FOR A FULL YEAR, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF DUPLICATE DATA ENTRY, AND IT WOULDN'T FLOW IN CORRECTLY. SO WE DID TRY TO GET THAT OVER. WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO IS TO USE SHELTER PRO AS AN ARCHIVED DATABASE, AND THAT CHECKING SHELTER PRO HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED INTO OUR SOPS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOUBLE CHECKING THAT DATABASE. OKAY, NOW I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM AGAIN, RIGHT? THE LET'S SEE. THE ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK THE AUDITOR BROUGHT UP IS FOR ASOS. WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS DISCREPANCY IN GEAR ALLOTMENT. SOME PEOPLE HAD SOME GEAR, SOME PEOPLE HAD ANOTHER GEAR, SOME PEOPLE HAD OTHER GEAR. DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR CONSISTENCIES IN IN GEAR. AND IT'S NOT NOT JUST ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICERS, BUT THE SAME SORT OF GEARING ISSUE IS TRUE OF OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS AS WELL.

AND SO I'M SORT OF TRACKING THAT. HOW ARE YOU WORKING ON CONSISTENCIES IN GEAR THAT THE AUDITOR BROUGHT UP? SURE. SO I THINK THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS MORE THE SAFETY GEAR, THE PROTECTIVE VEST. WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS OUR, OUR SUPERVISOR, RAMON, WHO'S OVER THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, IS GOING THROUGH AND IDENTIFYING WHAT EACH PIECE OF THE UNIFORM, EACH AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, ETC, EACH POSITION SHOULD HAVE. SO IF I'M AN ACO ONE OR AN ACO TWO AND I WORK PRIMARILY IN THE FIELD, WHAT SHOULD I BE ISSUED THEN? WE'RE GOING THROUGH MAKING SURE THAT WE INVENTORY EVERYTHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND THEN ASSIGN OUT EVERYTHING THAT EACH OFFICER SHOULD BE GETTING AND ISSUE IT OUT TO THEM. SO ESSENTIALLY, HE'S GOING TO ACT AS OUR QUARTERMASTER. AND THEN WE'LL RETAIN THAT DOCUMENTATION. WE'LL REVIEW IT PROBABLY ANNUALLY AT LEAST TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS GETTING HAS ALL COMPONENTS OF THEIR UNIFORM AND THEN REPLACE AS NEEDED. SO I WOULD ASSUME WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO IT BY BIANNUALLY, BECAUSE WHEN IT GETS COLD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS JACKETS. SURE. BUT YEAH SO THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT. SO MY LAST QUESTION IS WE HAD A NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT PRECIPITATED A LOT OF CULTURAL CHANGES, A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, PRECIPITATED A NUMBER OF AUDITS. WE DON'T WANT TO LEARN THROUGH CATASTROPHIC MISTAKES. HOW ARE WE?

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INTERNALIZING UPDATES AND CHANGES SO THAT WE LEARN QUICKLY FROM SMALL MISTAKES, NOT NOT CATASTROPHICALLY FROM LARGE MISTAKES? SURE. I THINK A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. ONE, WE HAVE FANTASTIC YOUNG, HUNGRY SUPERVISORS IN PLACE AND WE'RE SENDING THEM OUT FOR CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT. SO THEY'RE LEARNING INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES. THEY'RE SEEING NEW TRENDS. THEY ARE BRINGING BACK INFORMATION TO IMPLEMENT NEW PROCEDURES, NEW PLAY GROUPS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE STAYING AT THE TOP OF OUR GAME. AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE WE HAVE WORKED ON OUR SOPS, AND WE'VE PRIORITIZED TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH TRAINING WITH EACH ONE OF OUR STAFF SO THAT WE ALL ARE ON TOP OF WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. WE'VE ALSO RE LEVEL SET EXPECTATIONS WITH ALL OF OUR STAFF TOWARDS OUR NEW CULTURE.

BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WITH OUR NEW TRACKING SYSTEM, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE IN REAL TIME WHEN THINGS ARE MISSED. AND SO THEY STAY SMALL PROBLEMS, THEY DON'T GROW INTO BIGGER PROBLEMS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEM MORE IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT'S AN ACTIVE MONITORING OF STAFF DUTIES AND STAFF WORK. SO THE SUPERVISORS ARE SEEING EVERYTHING THAT IS DONE EVERY DAY FOR EVERY ANIMAL AND ADDRESSING PROBLEMS. THE EXPECTATIONS IS THAT IS THAT THEY WILL ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS AS THEY'RE PRESENTED. OKAY. AND SO WE'RE NOT LETTING IT SNOWBALL INTO A BIGGER ISSUE THAT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. WELL DONE ON THIS ON THIS REVIEW. THANK YOU FOR SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE AND SINCE YOU REFERENCED SINCE. THANK YOU FOR HOSTING DOCTOR BECK AND I TO COME OUT ON ON THANKSGIVING DAY. HAD A GOOD TIME DOING THAT, SPENDING SOME TIME THERE WITH RESPECT TO TIMING, FROM THE TIMING OF THE FROM THE TIMING OF THE DEATH OF GUNNER TO RIGHT NOW, HAVE THERE BEEN STAFF CHANGES AT THE SHELTER? YES. CAN YOU GIVE ME A NUMBER OF STAFF CHANGES? NOT ASKING FOR NAMES, BUT ONE, TWO. CAN YOU GIVE ME A NUMBER OF STAFF CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE? AND I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THINGS WERE DONE WRONG. SO I WANT TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THERE IS A NEW STAFF, AND THAT NEW STAFF OBVIOUSLY IS INGRATIATED IN CULTURE CHANGE, AND WE'LL BE DOING BETTER GOING FORWARD. OUR MANAGEMENT OR LEADERSHIP TEAM DID CHANGE. WE HAVE TWO NEW SUPERVISORS NOW, AND WE HAVE A VACANCY TO FILL THE MANAGER POSITION. THAT ONE IS POSTED NOW AND WE HOPE TO HAVE IT FILLED BY THE END OF FEBRUARY. OUR GENERAL ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS, WE DID HAVE SOME CHANGES THERE, BUT THOSE ARE MORE DUE TO STAFF TURNOVER AND NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THE GUNNER SITUATION. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU JESSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK. IT'S NOT EASY TO COME AND STAND UP FOR SOME THINGS THAT YOU KNOW HAPPENED OFF YOUR WATCH ON YOUR WATCH AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO, AND WE'RE GOING TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND DO IT. AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY. SOMEONE THAT HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR MAKE-A-WISH AS A WISH GRANTER, I STILL HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERED AT AN ANIMAL SHELTER BECAUSE IT LOOKS REALLY TOUGH.

AND I'VE FOSTERED DOGS. I'VE ADOPTED STRAYS OFF THE STREET. I'VE ADOPTED ANIMALS FROM AN ANIMAL SHELTER. AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE REALLY TOUGH WORK YOU DO. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO SAY. I THINK THIS THE POINT OF CONTACT IMPLEMENTATION DIGITAL SYSTEM IS A GAME CHANGER. AND AS WAS KIND OF MENTIONED EARLIER, IF SOMETHING OUT THERE ALREADY DID NOT EXIST, THEN WE SHOULD SELL THIS AS AN APP. UNFORTUNATELY, WE CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR ELSE I WOULD SAY HIRE MY HUSBAND TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT WE CAN HIRE SOMEONE ELSE. BUT I THINK IT'S AN ABSOLUTE GAME CHANGER AND ADDRESSES SO MANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE SAW WITH THE DOCUMENTATION. HOW DO WE INCLUDE IN THAT VOLUNTEERS INPUT? ARE THEY ALSO INPUTTING THEIR WALKING AND THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR CONTACTS ARE WITH THE ANIMALS? YES. SO WE HAVE THAT THROUGH A FEW DIFFERENT MODALITIES. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SPREADSHEET WHERE VOLUNTEERS CAN SCAN A QR CODE AND IMPLEMENT ANY BEHAVIOR, THINGS THAT THEY'VE SEEN, ANYTHING THEY'VE OBSERVED ON THEIR WALK OR THEIR INTERACTION WITH THE DOG SUCH AS, OH, LOOK, THIS DOG KNOWS SIT OR IT'S POTTY TRAINED OR IS A LITTLE MOUTHY WHEN YOU TAKE IT

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OUT. SO WE HAVE THEM LOG THOSE AS THEY NOTICE THEM, AND THEN OUR STAFF TAKES THAT INFORMATION AND INPUTS IT INTO OUR SYSTEM. ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE WORKING AT DEVELOPING SOME GENERIC LOGINS FOR VOLUNTEERS AND THEN ALSO PROCURING SOME SMALLER TABLETS SO THAT THEY CAN IMPLEMENT THE DATA INTO OUR OUR AIRTABLE SYSTEM. WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT WE HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED THAT PORTION OF IT YET OR BUILT THAT PORTION OF IT YET, JUST HAS TO BUILD IT. OKAY. AND FOR THOSE WATCHING IS THE BEST WAY TO HELP WITH THAT.

DONATING TO THE DENTON ANIMAL SUPPORT FOUNDATION OR DIRECTLY CONTACT YOU GUYS. EITHER WAY, WE ACCEPT DONATIONS. DENTON ANIMAL SUPPORT FOUNDATION ALSO ACCEPTS DONATIONS. THEY'RE FANTASTIC PARTNER OF OURS. THEY NEVER SAY NO WHEN WE NEED SOMETHING. AS FAR AS HEY, THIS IS REALLY EXPENSIVE TREATMENT FOR AN ANIMAL, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US OUT? OR WE NEED THIS NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE BEST CARE FOR THE ANIMALS. THEY'RE FANTASTIC PARTNERS, SO ANY DONATIONS FOR THEM ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED AS WELL. OKAY, I'LL.

I'LL BE DOING THAT, IF I MAY ADD, FOR FOLKS LOOKING OUT ON THE HORIZON, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF FOSTERS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS WITH THE EXPANDED PROGRAMING. SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE PLENTY OF WAYS FOR FOLKS TO ENGAGE IN IMPROVING ANIMAL CARE AT THE SHELTER. WE'VE GOT OUR HOOKS IN HIM. HE'S ADVOCATING FOR US NOW, AND FOSTERING IS GREAT FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS THAT MAY NOT KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE. THEY MAY HAVE A DUPLEX OR SOME KIND OF BACKYARD. NOW, THEY DON'T KNOW IN THE FUTURE IF THEY DO. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE SITUATION I WAS IN WHEN I WAS A FOSTER AND JUST EVERY OTHER WEEK HAD TO TAKE A THE PET I WAS FOSTERING INTO DIFFERENT EVENTS FOR TO TRY TO GET ADOPTED, AND THEY WOULD GET ADOPTED AND I WOULD GET A NEW ONE. BUT EVERY DOG I HAD WAS WONDERFUL, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND I THINK FOSTERING IS A GREAT THING ON FOR EVERYBODY. IT IS. AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LONG TERM FOSTER. A DAY OUT OF THE OUT OF THE SHELTER IS FANTASTIC AS AS COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE POINTED OUT, EVEN JUST THE WEEKEND GIVES THE ANIMAL A CHANCE TO EXHIBIT NORMAL ANIMAL BEHAVIORS OUTSIDE OF THAT ENVIRONMENT. AND WITH TRINITY ON BOARD, OUR NEW BEHAVIOR PLACEMENT AND ENRICHMENT COORDINATOR, SHE IS GOING TO GEAR UP THAT PROGRAM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ADVERTISE AND MARKET IT AND MAKE IT VERY LOW BARRIER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE FOSTERS COME IN AND HELP. IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE, AND SO I DEFINITELY ADVOCATE FOR THAT AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THE 100% CAPACITY. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU'RE AT 100% CAPACITY AS FAR AS NUMBER OF ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE AUDITOR'S REVIEW THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. IT WAS MENTIONED AT SOME POINT THAT THERE WERE 280. BUT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? ARE WE AT CAPACITY? AND THAT'S BEEN A NUMBER THAT'S BEEN AT LEAST ESTABLISHED FOR THE TIME BEING. SO CAPACITY FOR CARE. WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTABLISHED NUMBER. AND THE REASON WE DON'T IS BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO PUT A CAP ON IT. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, CAPACITY CAN VARY FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. FIRST, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY APPROPRIATE HOUSING AREAS DO WE HAVE FOR ANIMALS. BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE A LITTER OF KITTENS COME IN, THEY CAN ALL FIT IN ONE LARGE KENNEL. SO THAT INCREASES YOUR CAPACITY FOR CARE BUT DOESN'T DECREASE IT. WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK BASED ON HOUSING. WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE, THE ACCESS TO CARE THAT WE HAVE TO DO. WE HAVE OUR VETERINARIAN ON STAFF RIGHT NOW OR IS IT THE END OF THE DAY? DO WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE STAYING OVERNIGHT, WHICH WE DON'T? SO THAT THAT CHANGES OUR CAPACITY FOR CARE? DO WE HAVE STAFF THAT HAVE CALLED OUT SO THAT NUMBER FLUCTUATES AND WE DO. WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT WRITTEN GUIDANCE ON HOW WE DETERMINE WHAT OUR CAPACITY FOR CARE IS AT ANY GIVEN TIME, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SET NUMBER. IT'S MORE BASED ON THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. STAFFING SPACE, CARE TO BE ABLE TO APPROPRIATELY, APPROPRIATELY PROVIDE CARE. AT THAT TIME. I THINK THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. YES. WHATEVER MODULE OR CRITERIA OR FORMULA, SO THAT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO GUESSING ON ANYONE'S PART WHEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE TO TURN AWAY AN ANIMAL, THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR. THIS IS WHY I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND THEN I WANT TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. FIRST, I AGREE THAT AN IN-HOUSE VET GIVES US QUALITY CONTROL, ACCESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE OTHERWISE. AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THE EXPANSION I, I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT. ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE REVIEW THAT WE SAW UNDER A THAT THE AUDITOR AND

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THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, THE AUDITOR, THOUGH, IS REPORTS TO COUNCIL AND NOT TO THE CITY MANAGER THAT THE HIRING AND FIRING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS COUNCIL DRIVEN, THAT IS SEPARATE. AND SO WHEN THE AUDITOR THE PRESUMPTION AND IN REALITY IS IT IS INDEPENDENT AUDITOR IN THAT SHE REPORTS TO COUNCIL AND NOT TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT TO ALSO HELP WHERE THE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM, HOW IT'S COMING TO COUNCIL TODAY, AND I WILL WE'LL END WITH THAT. OTHER THAN, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK AND ALL OF THE HEART, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. SEEING NONE. REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT TWO IF SUCCINCTLY AS POSSIBLE. SUCCINCTLY I APPRECIATE YOU. I KNOW WE HAD SOME WE TALKED ABOUT SOME SEARCHES AND WE HAD SOME OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP VACANCIES WITHIN THE ANIMAL SERVICES. ARE THOSE FILLED NOW? WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR A MANAGER. JOB DESCRIPTION IS BACK OUT ON THE JOB BULLETIN BECAUSE THE APPLICANT OR THE CANDIDATE THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY ACCEPTED ANOTHER POSITION ELSEWHERE. SO WHICH IS GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND ALIGN IT MORE CLOSELY WITH OUR NEW GOALS AND OUR NEW FOCUS. SO IT ACTUALLY SILVER LINING THERE. SO THAT ANTICIPATE HAVING THAT FILLED END OF FEBRUARY. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE SEEING NONE. MADAM CITY MANAGER I KNOW I'VE SAID IT A THOUSAND TIMES AND THERE'LL STILL BE NAYSAYERS OUT THERE I'M SURE. BUT I WILL SAY THIS. WE'VE LEARNED FROM THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY, MISTAKES. WE'VE LEARNED THAT YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE SOMETHING IN IT. YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE CULTURE WITHIN IT. AND THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, BECAUSE YOU CAN CHANGE A PROCESS OR A PROCEDURE. BUT IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE CULTURE AND YOU DON'T CHANGE THE PEOPLE MINDSET, THE PEOPLE'S MINDSET WHO ARE WORKING THERE, THAT ANIMALS COME FIRST. IT'S THE PEOPLE AND THE PETS, THE PEOPLE IN THE ANIMALS THAT YOU'RE CARING ABOUT. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. SO AS MUCH AS I KNOW THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A TIME AND I'M. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE THIS IS MY THIRD TIME OVERSEEING ANIMAL SERVICES AND TWO IN LARGE CITIES. AND NOW HERE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AN ISSUE IN ANIMAL SERVICES BECAUSE PEOPLE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT PETS AND ABOUT ANIMALS. AND I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. AND SO BUT I, I TELL YOU WHEN I'M, WHEN I SAY THAT WE WILL BE ONE OF THE BEST RUN WILL BE THE BEST IN TEXAS, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY. I MEAN IT BECAUSE WE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE NOW, AND WE HAVE THE FOCUS ON THE QUALITY AND THE AND THE CULTURE AND THE CARE.

THAT DOESN'T NEGATE THAT SOMEONE WON'T DISAGREE WITH US OR SOMEONE WILL POST SOMETHING ABOUT US. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ASK US THOUGH, IF SOMEONE'S POSTING OR SAYING THINGS. YOU'VE SEEN THE TRUTH HERE TODAY AND THERE IS NO HIDING OF IT. THERE IS NO SECRETS HERE. YES, I BROUGHT IN AN ADDITIONAL EXPERT AFTER SHELTER SAVVY BECAUSE I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK SOME THINGS, AND YOU SEE THAT REFLECTED. AND SO FOR ME, I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT IF YOU START GETTING ANY EMAILS OR OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ANSWERS, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE TRUTH. BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING YOU OUT THERE AND TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT AND TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND I THINK COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM HAD AN EXCELLENT IDEA. AND POSSIBLY HAVING A MEET AND GREET OUT AT THE SHELTER AFTER SIX MONTHS TO LET EVERYBODY SEE ALL THE GOOD CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE. THIS ISN'T. AND WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMALS AND PEOPLE, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ISSUES AND CONCERNS BECAUSE WE CARE SO MUCH. BUT I DO REALLY BELIEVE 150% WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO HIRE ANOTHER GOOD PERSON. AND YES, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WE'LL HIRE CONTINUE TO HIRE THOSE QUALITY PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT THE ANIMALS. AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR THAT THESE THESE FOLKS HERE WILL BE THE ONES OUT TALKING AT CONFERENCES ABOUT BEST PRACTICES. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT. AND SO I JUST ASK THAT IF YOU GET COMMENTS FROM NAYSAYERS THAT YOU SHARE IT WITH US OR ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OR COME ON OUT, WALK A DOG LIKE Y'ALL HAVE DONE AND ADOPT OR FOSTER AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESSES NOW THAT HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT PLACE. IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PLACE. AND I'M I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I'M VERY PROUD OF THE JESSE AND NIKKI AND THE STAFF AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE FRANK AND WILL CONTINUE

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TO SUPPORT THEM AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE THE BEST AND SET THE STANDARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL JUST CONCLUDE WITH THIS. IN TRYING TO FOCUS ON A POLICY LEVEL, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT KIND OF IN MY ROLE. AND I ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO LOOK AT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT IS DROP OFFS. IS THAT A PROBLEM? RIGHT. BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTROL WHERE WE CAN'T DOCUMENT. RIGHT? WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT DATA. EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT PROVEN UP STUFF. WE CAN'T DOCUMENT WHERE THE ANIMAL ORIGINATED. BUT FOR US, PICKING UP THE ANIMAL. SO BECAUSE OTHERWISE SOMEONE DROPS IT OFF AND SAYS, I FOUND IT ON UNIVERSITY DRIVE IN DENTON OR SMITH STREET OR NOTTINGHAM, YOU KNOW HOW. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IT A PROBLEM? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S NOT, THEN OKAY.

BUT I GOT TO KNOW. AND SO FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT WE NEED TO START MOVING TOWARDS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WE NEED TO PICK UP THE ANIMALS SO THAT WE CAN DOCUMENT THEIR CONDITION AND WHERE THE ANIMAL ORIGINATED. WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH THE SAME ISSUE. SOMEONE'S GOING TO DRIVE INTO THE CITY LIMITS AND SAY, I FOUND THE ANIMAL RIGHT HERE, COME PICK IT UP FOR ME. SO UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO GAME THE SYSTEM AND BRING US THEIR ANIMAL ARE GOING TO GAME THE SYSTEM AND BRING US THEIR ANIMAL, AND WE'LL PROBABLY GET MORE OF THEM AS WE GROW OUR REPUTATION FOR PROVIDING EXCELLENT ANIMAL CARE.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT THEIR ANIMALS TO COME HERE RATHER THAN ENDING UP AT A DIFFERENT SHELTER OR DIFFERENT PLACE. SO WE'RE KIND OF CREATING OUR OWN ISSUE, I GUESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SOLVE IT BY PICKING UP ANIMALS IN THE FIELD, BECAUSE THE SAME REASON PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DRIVE IN THERE AND THEN LIE, OH, I FOUND IT RIGHT HERE. GOT IT. OKAY, THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. AND THEN AGAIN, KIND OF ON A POLICY LEVEL, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO IS, IS TAKE YOUR MESSAGING TO THE NEXT LEVEL. RIGHT. WE MEET THERE'S 52 MEETINGS A YEAR FOR COUNCIL I THINK ROUND NUMBERS 52, 53. I THINK I'D LIKE TO HAVE MAYBE A FEATURED ANIMAL THAT'S UP FOR ADOPTION, EITHER IN THE PACKET. RIGHT. THAT'S JUST A PAGE OR DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN.

RIGHT. BECAUSE FROM A DIGITAL STANDPOINT YOU CAN DO IT REAL TIME, RIGHT? SO JUST HEY, TODAY ON TUESDAY THIS THIS ANIMAL IS UP FOR ADOPTION. THIS ONE LIKE YOU SAY, SOME OF THE MORE LONG TERM FOLKS OR WHATEVER THAT CAN BE PLANNED IN THE IN THE CHAMBERS AS PEOPLE GET HERE READY FOR THE 630 MEETING OR ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA, SO THAT WHEN THAT GOES OUT, IT'S THERE OR ATTACHED TO THE FRIDAY REPORT, PEOPLE GETTING READY TO GO INTO THEIR WEEKEND. BUT LET'S LET'S MAKE THAT INTERACTIVE AND FUZE THAT IN WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. RIGHT. IF WE'RE IF WE'RE.

SO I LEAVE THAT TO YOU ALL TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE AND WHAT WOULD BE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SOMEONE, IT'S AN ANIMAL THAT'S AVAILABLE AND HOW TO BEST GIVE US THE BEST CHANCE TO BE SUCCESSFUL THERE. BUT THEN ALSO ON THE DROP OFFS, I LEAVE THAT TO YOU. I TAKE YOUR POINT AND THEN IF THAT CHANGES AT SOME POINT, THEN THEN YOU JUST I'D ASK THAT YOU COME BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE FIGURED OUT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR NOT, BUT I TRUST YOUR EVALUATION OF THOSE THINGS. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE ENTIRE TEAM AND YOUR HARD WORK. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding vacancies, terms, quorum issues and/ or dissolution of certain boards and commissions. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM B TAKES US TO ITEM C ID 242518. RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION.

GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING VACANCIES, TERMS, QUORUM ISSUES AND OR DISSOLUTION OF CERTAIN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRISTY FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF I'M HERE TODAY WITH AN UPDATE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. TODAY'S OBJECTIVE IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERALL UPDATE ON OUR RESIDENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING VACANCIES, AND SEEK DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON SOME AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT IDENTIFIED FOR SOME BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THE CITY CURRENTLY OPERATES 26 RESIDENT BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES. THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING NOMINATIONS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAINTAINING THE RECORDS OF APPOINTMENTS, AGENDAS, AND ATTENDANCE FOR COMMITTEES, AND THEN EACH

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COMMITTEE IS ASSIGNED A STAFF LIAISON, TYPICALLY A RELEVANT DEPARTMENT STAFF MEMBER WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MEETING, COORDINATION, CONTENT, AND COMMUNICATION. HERE'S A QUICKLY A DEEPER LOOK AT THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR VACANCIES THEY RECEIVE AND SOLICIT NOMINATIONS FROM COUNCIL, VERIFY THEIR ELIGIBILITY, AND THEN PRESENT NOMINEES TO COUNCIL. THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ONBOARDING OF NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHICH INCLUDES ADMINISTERING THEIR OATH OF OFFICE. TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT TRAINING, AND SYSTEM SETUP. THEY TRACK THE TERMS OF EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER AND PROACTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL TO REQUEST NOMINATIONS FOR TURNED OUT OR EXPIRED SEATS. THEY PROCESS ABSENCE NOTIFICATION FORMS AND SUBMIT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL WHEN NECESSARY, AND MONITOR FOR COMPLIANCE WITH ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENTS. AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ADEQUATE RECORDS, INCLUDING POSTING ALL AGENDAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT REQUIREMENTS AND POSTING THE APPROVED MINUTES. THE BOARD LIAISONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MEETING MAINTENANCE, WHICH INCLUDES COORDINATION OF ALL OF THE MEETINGS, CREATION OF MEETING CONTENT, PRESENTATIONS AND COLLATERAL MATERIALS, AND DRAFTING THE MEETING MINUTES TO BE APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE. THE BOARD LIAISON IS WHO IS IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS REGARDING MEETING SCHEDULES AND EXPECTATIONS, AND THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE HAS CONDUCTED A REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES WITH THE GOAL OF IDENTIFYING AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND OPENING COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CSO AND BOARD LIAISONS. AS A RESULT, WE'VE IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROCESS IMPROVEMENT THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, AS WELL AS IMPLEMENTING A BOARD LIAISON TRAINING AND IMPROVING THE MINUTES AND ATTENDANCE TRACKING PROCESS. IN GENERAL, THE REVIEW HAS INCREASED EFFICIENCY AND UNIFORMITY OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROCESS GREATLY, SO MOVING INTO A SUMMARY OF THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEMBERSHIP LISTED HERE AND AT YOUR TABLE AS WELL FOR EASY VIEWING ARE THE 26 RESIDENT BOARDS BY THE NUMBERS. FOR EACH BOARD, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS HELD AND THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2024. THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS EACH COMMITTEE HAS, AND THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES AND EXPIRED TERMS CURRENTLY ON EACH VACANCY. AND THIS IS A CONSTANTLY EVOLVING LIST. THIS WAS POSTED ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND THIS IS ALREADY. THERE'S ALREADY A COUPLE OF SMALL SHIFTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THESE NUMBERS, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE HERE AT THE BOTTOM THE TOTALS OF EACH COLUMN. 190 COMMITTEE MEETINGS, 221 COMMITTEE MEMBERS, 19 VACANCIES AND 32 EXPIRED TERMS. SO JUST SHEER NUMBERS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND FOR THE BOARD LIAISONS, JUST THE SHEER NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PRODUCING EACH YEAR IS LARGE. AND I WILL NOTE A TOTAL OF 57 MEETINGS WERE CANCELED IN THE CALENDAR YEAR 2024, ROUGHLY AN ESTIMATE OF 40 OF THEM WERE CANCELED DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM. SO THE MEETINGS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN EITHER YELLOW OR RED ARE COMMITTEES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIALLY NEEDING IMPROVEMENT DURING THE CITY SECRETARY'S REVIEW. THE COMMITTEES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW HAD SOME RECENT OR ONE OFF TROUBLE MAKING QUORUM, BUT EITHER SCHEDULING CONFLICTS OR FILLED VACANCIES HAS SINCE RESOLVED THOSE CONCERNS, AND NO ACTION IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR THOSE AT THIS TIME. THE COMMITTEES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HAVE HAD RECENT AND ONGOING ISSUES MAKING QUORUM AND REQUIRE COUNCIL DIRECTION TO RESOLVE. I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THE COMMITTEES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN SEEK COUNCIL DIRECTION AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION FOR EACH OF THOSE ITEMS. THE COMMUNITY SERVICE SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IN 2021 WITH THE CONSOLIDATION OF TWO OTHER BOARDS, THE HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF 11 MEMBERS, SEVEN THAT ARE NOMINATED BY EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT SEAT INDIVIDUALLY, AND THEN FOUR THAT ARE OPEN FOR NOMINATION BY ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. AN 11 PERSON COMMITTEE REQUIRES A QUORUM OF SIX, WHICH HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO MEET, ESPECIALLY WITH SEVERAL VACANCIES, SO STAFF RECOMMENDS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS FROM 11 TO 7. WITH A FOUR MEMBER QUORUM. THE INTERNAL AUDIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED IN 2021 TO PROVIDE

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ADVICE ON AUDIT ACTIVITIES AND GOVERNANCE, INCLUDING THE CREATION OF AN ANNUAL AUDIT PLAN AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AUDITING STANDARDS AND DEPARTMENT PROCEDURES. THE DEPARTMENT HAS SINCE IMPLEMENTED THESE PROCEDURES AND PLANS, AND CURRENT PRACTICE IS TO BRING ALL AUDIT PLANS AND REPORTS TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION. THE COMMITTEE IS CURRENTLY MADE UP OF FOUR INDIVIDUALS, AND THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO EXPIRED TERMS AND ONE VACANCY. BECAUSE THE COMMITTEES ENACTING CHARGE IS NO LONGER OPERATIONALLY NECESSARY AND VACANCIES HAVE PREVENTED THE COMMITTEE FROM MEETING SINCE JULY 2023. STAFF RECOMMENDS DISSOLUTION OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME. THE OTHER COMMITTEE THAT WAS NOT THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED WAS THE SUSTAINABILITY FRAMEWORK ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF SEVEN MEMBERS AND CURRENTLY HAS TWO VACANCIES THAT HAVE MADE ACHIEVING QUORUM DIFFICULT. STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR MODIFYING THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME, AS IT ALREADY FALLS IN LINE WITH THE SIZE AND MAKEUP OF MOST OF OUR BOARDS. SO INSTEAD, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THESE TWO VACANCIES BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE NOMINATIONS PROCESS. ADDITIONALLY, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS CURRENTLY EVALUATING THEIR FOUR COMMITTEES TO BRING THEM IN LINE WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROCEDURES, AND ALSO IDENTIFYING WAYS TO STREAMLINE AND IMPROVE THEIR COMMITTEE WORK SO THEIR TEAM WILL BRING THEIR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL. AND LASTLY, WITH THE TRANSITION OF THE CVB FROM THE CHAMBER TO THE CITY, THE DISCOVER DENTON ADVISORY BOARD WILL COME UNDER THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON ENSURING THE TRANSITION IS AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE, AND PLANS TO KEEP THE MAKEUP AND PROCEDURES EFFECTIVELY THE SAME. THE BOARD MEETS QUARTERLY AND CONSISTS OF 13 VOTING MEMBERS AND SIX EX OFFICIO MEMBERS, AND AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE ADVISORY BOARD WILL BE ON AN UPCOMING COUNCIL AGENDA FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. NEXT STEPS WITH YOUR DIRECTION TODAY, STAFF WILL PREPARE AMENDMENTS TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ORDINANCES FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT THE FEBRUARY 4TH MEETING, AND THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE WILL RETURN WITH A WORK SESSION PRESENTATION IN JUNE TO PROVIDE ANOTHER UPDATE ON RESIDENT BOARDS, AS WELL AS AN UPDATE ON COUNCIL COMMITTEES. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE. WE ALSO HAVE THE BOARD LIAISONS FOR THOSE IDENTIFIED BOARDS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, AND I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAN PULL THAT DOWN SO I CAN SEE THE COUNCIL MEMBER QUESTIONS AND DIRECTION REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. I SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I APPRECIATE ALSO THE SUMMARIES YOU HANDED OUT YOUR TO DO LISTS. ALSO THANKS TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR HER ASSISTANCE POINTING OUT URGENT NEEDS AND KIND OF HELPING GETTING ME TO THE STARTING STARTING LINE FROM TIME TO TIME. ANYONE? ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT FOUR. YEAH, AND I ALSO SUPPORT THE REDUCTION OF COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORIES FROM FROM 11 TO 7, THE DISSOLUTION OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THOSE THOSE TWO THINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. JUST WANTED TO STATE I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. AND AS PART OF THE NEXT REPORT COMING BACK IN F THERE'S THE BANDWIDTH FOR IT. HOWEVER, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES OF SIMILAR SIZES. THAT'S A LOT OF ALLITERATION. HOW MANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THEY HAVE. I KNOW EVERY CITY IS UNIQUE AS FAR AS US HAVING AN AIRPORT AND YOU KNOW, OTHER FACTORS. HOWEVER, I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF WE ARE OUTLINE IN SOME WAY AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING WE CAN GET FOR YOU, REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. AND OH, AND JUST A QUICK THANK YOU TO THE CITY SECRETARY WHO HELPED ME GET FROM LIKE 11 VACANCIES TO ZERO TO I JUST HAD SOMEONE RESIGN LAST MONTH. HUGE AMOUNT OF HELP. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION AND ASSISTANCE.

SORRY. THANK. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. YEAH I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN CHESTER'S ISSUE. I WAS CLOSE TO ZERO OR AT ZERO, AND THEN BOOP HAD SOME VACANCIES. SO IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM. I HAVE A QUESTION. I WE GENERALLY FOLLOW THE SAME SORTS OF FOR MOST OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THE, THE THREE TERMS OF TWO YEARS KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT WE USE FOR

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COUNCIL AND SOME OF THE IT SEEMED, WELL, LET ME PUT IT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION. IS IT ARE SOME OF THE VACANCIES THAT WE'RE SEEING HOLDOVERS OR EVERYTHING IN OUR TABLE IS DELINEATED BETWEEN HOLDOVERS AND VACANCIES. EVERYTHING IS DELINEATED BETWEEN HOLDOVERS AND VACANCIES. OKAY. SO HOLDOVERS ARE NOT BEING COUNTED AS VACANCIES, CORRECT? OKAY, OKAY.

JUST THAT WOULD BE MORE. HEY, COUNCIL, PLEASE CLEAN UP YOUR HOLDOVERS. OKAY. COOL. THAT THAT WAS I DO. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE MERGE THOSE COMMITTEES THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT.

DESIRES IN THE COMMUNITY TO, TO SUPPORT A LOT OF DIFFERENT EFFORTS AND HAVE A LOT OF. AND SO I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING SOME OF THAT INPUT, BUT I THINK IF IN THE LIGHT OF NOT HAVING PEOPLE SHOW UP, IT'S HARD TO ARGUE THAT WE ARE MISSING OUT ON THE INPUT IF PEOPLE ARE VACANT OR NOT SHOWING UP. SO IT'S I APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGE. SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. INTERNAL AUDIT WAS A STAFF INITIATED COMMITTEE. YES IT WAS OKAY. SO JUST FOR MY PERSONAL VIEW AND NO ONE ELSE, IF Y'ALL WANT TO INITIATE OR NOT INITIATE A COMMITTEE, I'M COOL WITH WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING. SURE. AND THEN, YEAH, I WILL DO MY DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY TO GET MY VACANCIES BACK DOWN TO ZERO. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE AND THEN FIVE. I DON'T HAVE ANY VACANCIES. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE THAT THE WAY YOU WANT TO TAKE IT. BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I'M LOOKING AT THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, JUST NOT REAL SURE AS TO WHY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE IS NOT CONSIDERED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. BUT IN ANY CASE, ANSWER THAT QUESTION ALSO. BUT I'M NOTICING THAT THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AD HOC COMMITTEE, HAS VACANCIES ON IT. SO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW AN AD HOC COMMITTEE CAN STILL SHOW VACANCIES, AND WHY IS IT CONSIDERED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE IF IT'S SHOWING VACANCIES? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO I BELIEVE WITH THAT ONE, IT IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE IN THAT THEY CAN MEET.

THEY ARE A STANDING COMMITTEE, BUT THEY MEET AD HOC. AND SO THOSE TWO VACANCIES ARE THERE.

BUT THEY ALSO YOU CAN SEE HAVEN'T HAD THEY'VE HAD ONE MEETING THIS YEAR. SO THERE'S ONLY BEEN NEED FOR THEM TO MEET ONCE. SO THAT'S THE AD HOC PART OF IT. BUT IT IS A STANDING COMMITTEE. SO IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THERE TO BE VACANCIES ON IT, A STANDING AD HOC COMMITTEE. OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO. AND IT. YEAH. AND THE CHARTER REVIEW, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD ALSO KIND OF LEAN CLOSER TOWARDS THE WAY THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE IS VIEWED. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S MET. IT MET, BUT IT'S NOT CORRECT. AND IN IN THE CHARTER COMMITTEE ORDINANCE THERE IS A DISSOLUTION DATE. SO IT HASN'T DISSOLVED JUST YET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TOTALLY DONE WITH THE CHARTER, BUT IT WILL DISSOLVE ONCE WE CALL THE ELECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. YES, YES, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[D. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: 1) Making the option of remote participation available for Planning and Zoning Commissioners when needed. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

THAT'S EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED, RIGHT? YES, SIR. PERFECT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TAKES US TO ITEM D I'D 242514. RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON PENDING CITY COUNCIL. REQUEST. MAKING THE OPTION OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION AVAILABLE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

OH, YEAH. I'D LIKE TO GET OFF. GIVE HIM A GIVE HIM A BUNCH OF KUDOS. AND HE WALKS OFF WITH A BIG HEAD. WE HAVE A VACANCY, APPARENTLY. OH. HE REALLY IS AMAZING. AND THIS THIS WILL BE

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THE LAST ITEM WE'RE NOT. THE CLOSED MEETING WAS A WAS A PLACEHOLDER. SO AFTER THIS, THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR WORK SESSION. DINNER WILL BE ABOUT 430 THIS TIME. OKAY. OH, NO, IT'S NOT SO BAD OVER THERE. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE GREAT THINGS YOU SAID. I KNOW I'M JUST BURNT THROUGH ALL THE GOODWILL. I JUST GOT TO SCAN YOUR CODE. THAT'S RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JESSE KANE, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TWO MINUTE PITCH THAT WE HAVE TODAY. AS A REMINDER, WE'LL GO THROUGH, HAVE THE PITCH PRESENTED. THE COUNCIL MEMBER PITCHING WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO JUSTIFY THE REQUEST, AND THEN ONE MINUTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. OTHERWISE, THIS REQUEST IS FOR AN ISR, NOT AN ORDINANCE. SO, MAYOR, I TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AS YOU CAN SEE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHESTER TODAY IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY. I'VE DONE IT REMOTELY. IT WAS THAT OPTION HAD BEEN DONE ONCE WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH MEETS AS OFTEN AS COUNCIL, AND THE DECISION WAS MADE TO NOT DO THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T REQUIRED OR ACTUALLY WOULDN'T COUNT TOWARD.

QUORUM DOESN'T COUNT FOR QUORUM FOR US EITHER, BUT IT DOES PERMIT PARTICIPATING IN DELIBERATIONS AND VOTING. SOME POINTS HAVE BEEN RAISED THAT WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T MADE AVAILABLE TO OTHER P AND Z PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE MOST RECENT. WELL, IF THIS WERE IN PLACE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN. AND ANOTHER POINT RAISED WAS THAT THERE'S A CONCERN THAT THIS WOULD LEAD TO OTHER REQUESTS THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY YES TO. AND MY RESPONSE TO THAT IS, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY YES TO THOSE, DON'T SAY YES TO THOSE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE 6 OR 7 GIVING DIRECTION AND SUPPORT AND AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN MOVE TOWARD SEEING WHAT OBSTACLES THERE ARE, IF ANY. BUT IF THERE AREN'T ANY, LET'S JUST GET THIS IN PLACE.

OKAY? ANY ANY ANY COMMENTS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO I APPRECIATE MAYOR PRO TEM BRINGING THIS FORWARD. IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL IN 21 OR A SIMILAR CONCEPT. IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD THROUGHOUT BEFORE AND AFTER COVID, INCREASING PARTICIPATION, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE PRESENTATIONS WE JUST SAW FROM CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. I KNOW WE'RE HAVING QUORUM ISSUES, BUT PARTICIPATION ISSUES CAN ONLY BE HELPED WITH THIS, SO I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT FOR AT LEAST THIS BOARD AND COMMISSION, AND I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF WE SHOULDN'T NEED IT FOR OTHERS AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU, DOCTOR BECK, FOR THOSE WORDS. THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT I CAN CERTAINLY AGREE WITH. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE MINDFUL OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS REGARD. SO I WILL DEFINITELY APPRECIATE US GOING FORWARD WITH THAT. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. STRONG. YES. FOR ME ON THIS. WELL DONE. THE PERSON IN QUESTION IS AWAY DURING WORK. HE'S GOT TO WORK. I TOO HAVE HAD TO APPEAR REMOTELY BECAUSE OF WORK. EVERYBODY'S GOT TO WORK, AND WORK SHOULD NOT BE A BARRIER TO YOUR CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND THE ACTIVITIES FOR THE CITY. SO WELL DONE FOR THIS. I'M A I'M A STRONG. YES, THANKS. THANK YOU.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT OH FOUR. DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE COST OF THIS? WHAT WHAT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COST TO IMPLEMENT AND I'M AND I CERTAINLY AM CONCERNED THAT WE HAD 26. NOW WE HAVE 25.

APPARENTLY IF THIS IS AVAILABLE TO THIS, WOULD IT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE OTHER 24? SO I'LL LET YOU WRAP UP YOUR TIME. THAT'S INHERENT PROBLEM WITH WITH THIS PROCESS. BUT YOU CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS OKAY, OKAY. THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD BE ANSWERED IN A POTENTIAL ISR IF IT MOVES FORWARD. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SI? I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT I

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FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE. YOU KNOW, Y, P AND Z, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE AS FAR AS OTHERS, THAT IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN P AND Z. AND THEN I ALSO JUST I TOOK THE STAFF'S NOTES THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS QUORUM FOR TEXAS STATUTE. IT'S DIVERSION OF STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES FROM THEIR OTHER ASSIGNMENTS. AND I DO THINK IT'S A BAD PRECEDENT SET. I THINK COUNCIL BEING ELECTED FOR OUR OPINIONS OR TO GIVE OUR OPINIONS IS DIFFERENT THAN A BORDER COMMISSION, AND I THINK IT DOES SET A BAD PRECEDENT FOR THE EXPECTATIONS OF PARTICIPATION. SO I'M I'M A NO. AND I'M, I'M SURPRISED AT AT THE VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU GOT ME TO. NO I HATCHES OKAY. GOT IT. YES. AND I'LL JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I READ THE ISR, BUT WE JUST HEARD THE QUESTION I ASK IS ANSWERED BY STAFF AND IT TAKES AWAY FROM RESOURCES. SO RESOURCES THAT THE VIDEO TEAM COULD BE USING TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT A PET TO ADOPT. THAT'S ONE THING TO TAKE AWAY RESOURCES ONE TWO TO THEN TREAT ANYBODY SERVICE TO THE CITY AS LESS THAN IS PROBLEMATIC TO ME. IT DOESN'T OFFER THE REMOTE OPTION. SO YOU HAVE A LARGE SWATH OF COMMITTEES THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE TO THEM. SO TO TREAT ONE PERSON'S SERVICE OR ONE BOARD SERVICE AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN ANOTHER IS A PROBLEM FOR ME. WE SHOULD TREAT EVERYONE SERVICE THE SAME. I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE THAT SERVES AND ANYTHING THAT COMES FORWARD THAT IS DIVISIVE THIS WAY. TO SEPARATE OR SEGREGATE THE BOARDS IS PROBLEMATIC FOR ME. SO WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT THAT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE, THEN THEN I'LL TAKE THAT UP AS IT COMES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES THAT DISCUSSION. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION AT 413. WE'LL RECONVENE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 630. DINNER SHOULD GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS TUESDAY, THE JANUARY 7TH, 2025. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE AND FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA. THE PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALRIGHT. OKAY, SO THE FIRST WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED

[2. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

SPEAKER AND A COUPLE OTHERS IS THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. CHARLES LEE. MR. CHARLES LEE. OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DONNA SMITH. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. FOR. YEAH, FOUR MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. I'M DONNA SMITH, AND I AM VERY GLAD THAT ALL OF YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU TAKE YOUR EFFORT. ALL OF YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT'S APPRECIATED. AND SINCE WE'RE STARTING A NEW YEAR, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE NEW YEAR. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING UP A FEW THOUGHTS AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEW YEAR, THAT LET'S JUST BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY. SO IN THE RECENT ELECTION, THE RESULTS WERE WERE CLEAR. THE PEOPLE WANTED TRUMP AND KIND OF A WAY OUT OF SOME OF THE INSANITY THAT WE'VE BEEN LIVING THROUGH. AND WE DO WANT A SMALLER GOVERNMENT.

AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS KIND OF AWFUL BECAUSE I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF MY CITY GOVERNMENT SAYING, I WANT A SMALLER ONE. I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE YOU. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO THINK SMALLER AND TAKE OUR TAX DOLLARS AND REALLY LOOK AT THEM DIFFERENTLY, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF US AND PROBABLY MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM, YOU KNOW, ARE EMPLOYED. IF YOU'RE NOT WORKING FOR SOMEONE, YOU'RE WORKING FOR YOURSELF. AND WHEN OUR TAX DOLLARS COME, YOU KNOW, TO YOU,

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WE NEED THEM SPENT IN THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WAY POSSIBLE. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL HAS HIRED SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE WHO, BY ALL APPEARANCES, REALLY DO TRY TO USE THEIR, THEIR OFFICE TO, TO DO GOOD. AND ALSO THEY'RE MINDFUL OF THE TAX DOLLARS I DO APPRECIATE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ASK, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN A LAWSUIT WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS BECAUSE OF THE MARIJUANA ISSUE, IS THAT WE STOP, THAT THE TAX DOLLARS NEED TO STAY IN DENTON IF SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO CHANGE THAT LAW, IT REALLY DOES NEED TO TAKE PLACE IN AUSTIN. YOU KNOW, BOTH SIDES HAVE VALID REASONS TO BE FOR IT, TO BE AGAINST IT. BUT TRULY, THE DEMOCRATIC WAY IS TO HANDLE IT IN AUSTIN. BUT OUR TAX DOLLARS DON'T NEED TO GO TO ATTORNEYS FEES OR PENALTIES. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THEY NEED TO BE THEY NEED TO BE SPENT HERE IN OUR TOWN. AND TAXES TOO. I DID WANT TO BRING UP BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DO WITH THIS, PER SE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. DENTON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES A LOT OF IT. BUT WHEN THAT TAX RATE IS SET AND WE'RE TOLD YOU'RE GETTING A TAX REDUCTION AND THEN THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME GOES UP.

DEMONSTRATIVELY, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY SAVE ANY MONEY AS A TAXPAYER. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BAIT AND SWITCH. BUT WE NOTICED WE NOTICED IT AS THINGS ARE KIND OF CHANGING. I WANT US TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE, YOU ARE TAKING YOUR TIME BECAUSE YOU LOVE OUR CITY, YOU LOVE THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE, AND WE ARE EXTREMELY BLESSED TO BE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN TEXAS, AND IN DENTON. AND SOMETIMES I KNOW IT'S EASY TO COMPLAIN, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF US. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I DO PRAY FOR EACH ONE OF YOU BECAUSE YOUR JOB IS HARD, BUT IT IS APPRECIATED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MATTHEW MESSER. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. SO MY NAME IS MATTHEW. HI, EVERYBODY. TODAY I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT, IRONICALLY, TWO OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOT JUST Y'ALL, BUT Y'ALL AS WELL. LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT PAPERWORK RIGHT NOW FROM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW FROM CONGRESS. THIS IS FROM CONGRESS. YOU GOT TO SPEAK TO THE MIC. SO I'M SORRY. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M ALSO TRYING TO TALK TO THEM AS WELL. SURE. SO I DON'T BOTHER ANYBODY. I TYPICALLY TRY TO STAY OUT OF Y'ALL'S HAIR. I TRY TO JUST DO MY OWN THING. LIVE MY LIFE, PAY ATTENTION TO MY WIFE. PAY ATTENTION TO MY SON. JUST DO WHAT I NEED TO DO. BUT I LOVE AMERICA. I LOVE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, AND I LOVE THE FREEDOM IT'S GIVEN US. NOW, ACCORDING TO THE PAPERWORK THAT I HAND Y'ALL AND IF Y'ALL WANT COPIES, I HAVE COPIES. WE HAD A CASE THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. IT WAS IN THE COLORADO TRUMP V ANDERSON. IN THAT CASE, TRUMP WAS FOUND TO BE AN INSURRECTIONIST. BUT IT WAS ALSO FOUND THAT THEY COULD NOT REMOVE HIM FROM THE STATE BALLOT. THAT WAS ON THE CIVIL LEVEL. THAT WAS CIVIL COURT. THEN WE MOVED UP AND WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT. TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM TRIED TO NEGATE IT AND TRIED TO SAY, NOPE, THAT DOESN'T WORK. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE SUPREME COURT. THE SUPREME COURT OF THE COLORADO SAID, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT IT. THEY LOOKED AT THE EVIDENCE, AND THEY ALSO SAID TRUMP IS AN INSURRECTIONIST. THEY ALSO STATED, FOR THE RECOR, THAT THEY WANTED TO TAKE TRUMP OFF THE BALLOT. WELL, THEN TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM FILED THE AMICUS BRIEF. IT WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, WHERE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SECOND PAGE, HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT THERE UNDER FOOTNOTES, NUMBER TWO, STATES HAVE NO POWER UNDER THE CONSTITUTION TO ENFORCE SECTION THREE WITH RESPECT TO FEDERAL OFFICES, ESPECIALLY THE PRESIDENT. UNDER FOOTNOTE FOUR, AND THIS IS THE BIG ONE, WE CONCLUDE THAT THE FOREGOING EVIDENCE, THE GREAT

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BULK OF WHICH WAS UNDISPUTED AT TRIAL, ESTABLISHED THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP ENGAGED IN INSURRECTION. I KNOW THE POWER OF WHAT I'M SAYING. I KNOW I AM ACTUALLY IN FEAR OF BEING SAYING THIS BECAUSE OF HOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TREATING EACH OTHER IN MY NATION. I NEED IT TO STOP. I NEED PEOPLE TO LISTEN. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CONVEY IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REACH PEOPLE, BUT IT DOES STAY RIGHT THERE. THEN ON FOOTNOTE FIVE, IT SAYS, BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DISQUALIFIED FROM HOLDING THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT UNDER SECTION THREE. THIS IS NOT AN OPINION. I'M NOT THROWING ANY BIAS INTO THIS. THIS IS WHAT IT STATES. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[3. CONSENT AGENDA]

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. YES, SIR. THAT TAKES US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. EVERYTHING IS.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION. BUT FOR ITEM B THAT'S BEEN PULLED. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. I MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT. EXCEPT FOR ITEM B REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER CHESTER ICU. I APOLOGIZE. I.

OKAY. AND EVERYONE HERE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM B

[B. Consider nominations/appointments to the City’s Boards, Commissions, and Committees: Airport Advisory Board, and Community Services Advisory Committee.]

SPECIFICALLY. I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR THE AIRPORT ADVISORY. NO, NO FOR YES FOR THE AIRPORT ADVISORY. MYSELF AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. THOSE THAT ARE TO THE. THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE VOTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER'S NOMINEE. SO THE FIRST TWO. WELL LET ME JUST. YEAH.

REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT TWO. I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM B ACCEPTING THE NOMINATION OF ERICA GARLAND TO AIRPORT. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE OTHER ITEMS REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILWOMAN JESTER, HOW SAY YOU? I EVERYONE ELSE'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CALLED IT, SO LET ME CALL IT. IT'S B WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IS B I'D 242516. CONSIDER NOMINATIONS APPOINTMENTS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES. AIRPORT BOARD AND COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND SO THE LAST NAME NOMINEE I JUST NEED TO MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER I JUST I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND. THIS IS A PERSON I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET ON PLANNING AND ZONING. THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE BOARDS ARE ALL THE SAME. IF IT I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO DEFER SO THAT I CAN NOMINATE HER TO PLANNING AND ZONING. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS MOTION YOU'VE PUT FORWARD. SO IT'S A KNOWN COMMODITY. SO I GIVE YOU THE FLOOR I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU MY PROCESS. DUE TO A RESIGNATION, I WAS ADVISED THAT THERE WAS AN OPENING, THAT IT WAS MY OBLIGATION TO NOMINATE A CANDIDATE TO ON AIRPORT. I'VE REVIEWED ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SERVE ON THE AIRPORT COMMITTEE, AND THE NOMINEE HAD BY, BY FAR AND CLEARLY THE MOST RELEVANT WORK EXPERIENCE AND OBVIOUS DESIRE TO SERVE. I ACTUALLY JUST LEARNED THAT SHE HAS, ON HER OWN TIME, ATTENDED MEETINGS OF THAT BODY ON HER OWN, WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY UNUSUAL. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, IS PRO AVIATION. AND SO I MOVE HER APPROVAL. SO BUT I ARE WE ON. BUT MY POINT IS MY UNDERLYING POINT IS CAN WE AGREE THAT SHE'S QUALIFIED TO SERVE ON ANY BOARD BASED ON THE CITY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS? IS WHAT AM I MISSING IF SHE'S NOT MAYOR? IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR HER FOR THIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO. THAT'S MY MOTION. AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO STUFF THAT WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. SO YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO

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DISCUSS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT YOU VOTED AGAINST HER THREE TIMES TO SERVE ON ANY OTHER BOARD? THAT'S THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO YOU. SHE IS THE MOST QUALIFIED APPLICANT, IN MY JUDGMENT, FOR THIS POSITION, AND THAT'S WHY I NOMINATED HER. RIGHT. BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW YOU EVALUATE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE. WELL, LET ME LET ME JUST I STATED MY REASONS. I KNOW AND I HAVE I HAVE THE I HAVE THE FLOOR. ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD. I WAS RESPONDING TO YOUR PREVIOUS THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I APPRECIATE IT, MISS CITY. MISS CITY SECRETARY. PLEASE EDUCATE ME. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE UNDERLYING YOUR EVALUATION OF THE NOMINEES PUT FORWARD ON THESE BOARDS, COMMITTEES THAT WE VOTE ON IN THIS SEGMENT OF THE MEETING? OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NUANCE EXPERIENCES. THEY'RE KIND OF FORCED SPECIFICITIES. SO I'LL NARROW IT DOWN. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE AIRPORT BOARD AND PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN IT COMES TO QUALIFICATIONS FOR APPLICANTS? NO, SIR. AND THAT'S BASED ON WHAT WHAT GUIDELINES? THAT'S BASED ON THE CHARTER, BASED ON THE CODE. THE CITY CODE. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DIRECTION COMES FROM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER, JUST TO I WAS TRYING TO RESPOND TO A STATEMENT LIKE TO BACK. WHEN THE NOMINEE CAME UP FOR A DIFFERENT POSITION. I WAS EXPLICIT ON THE RECORD FOR MY REASONS, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY MOTIVATION OR INCENTIVE TO REPEAT ALL THAT. AND WHAT I SAID THEN STANDS, AND WHAT I SAY NOW STANDS. AND WHAT I SAY NOW IS THE APPLICANT WANTS THE POSITION APPLIED FOR THE POSITION AND IS CLEARLY QUALIFIED. AND THE NOT ONLY CLEARLY QUALIFIED, BUT THE MOST QUALIFIED, IN MY OPINION, OF THOSE WHO ARE SEEKING THE POSITION. AND THAT'S WHY I NOMINATED HER. SO, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, CAN I ASK YOU I WANT TO CALL THE APPLICANTS HERE FOR THIS NOMINATION. I CAN I'M ASKING, CAN I USE CHAIR'S DISCRETION TO ASK SOMEONE TO SPEAK? HAVE YOU DONE THAT BEFORE? YES. PERFECT. ERIC, IF YOU COME DOWN, PLEASE. AND NO REQUIREMENT. I JUST WANT I SAW YOU HERE. WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, IF YOU SO DESIRE. IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S GREAT. BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK OF YOU WITHOUT GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I AND I DO APPRECIATE THE NOMINATION. I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH ALL OF THE NOMINATIONS THAT I'VE RECEIVED. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED TO SAY. I CAN SAY THAT THE NOMINATION DID TAKE ME BY SURPRISE. I ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE ELSE CONTACT ME ABOUT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WERE YOU AWARE OF THIS? AND I WASN'T. IT DID TAKE ME BY SURPRISE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A I WAS PRIVY TO HEARING, YOU KNOW, FIRSTHAND HERE A LOT OF REASONS AS TO WHY YOU DIDN'T BACK MY THE PLANNING AND ZONING NOMINATION BY BY MAYOR HUDSPETH.

SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT IT. IT FEELS WEIRD. AND IT FEELS. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. I DO FEEL LIKE I'M QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE I WAS QUALIFIED FOR MAYOR HUDSPETH'S NOMINATION TO PUT ME ON PLANNING AND ZONING. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WE CERTAINLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME REELECTIONS COMING UP AND SOME, YOU KNOW, LOCAL POLITICS GOING ON. AND SO IF I'M BEING PERFECTLY TRANSPARENT, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF A PAWN IN ALL OF THAT. AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M A GOOD PERSON AND I DO WANT TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, IT BENEFITS AND I'M I WILL GLADLY TAKE WHATEVER I'M NOMINATED FOR AND WHATEVER YOU GUYS APPROVE. BUT WHAT I'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO GET TO THIS POINT IS KIND OF A SHAME. AND IT'S EMBARRASSING. IT'S EMBARRASSING TO ME AND IT'S

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EMBARRASSING TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO THIS POINT. AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. CONGRATULATIONS. I DO WANT TO SAY AND REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT WE SITTING ON THIS DAIS DON'T EXPECT FOR OUR JUDGMENT TO CLOUD OVER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THESE CHOICES. THAT'S OUR JOB IS TO MAKE CHOICES. AND WHATEVER CHOICE WE MAKE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EMOTIONALLY INTELLIGENT, THAT'S THE CHOICE THAT WE MAKE. AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, CHOICES SHOULD NOT BE PERSONAL. THEY JUST NEED TO BE CONNECTED. AND THE CONNECTION CAME TONIGHT FOR THE PERSON THAT WAS PUT UP HERE TO GET ON THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT MY DECISIONS HAVE TO BE CONSTRUED AS A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANYONE. AND I'VE SAID THIS THE LAST TIME WE MET. MY LOYALTY IS NOT TO A PERSON. MY LOYALTY IS FOR THE GOOD AND THE BETTERMENT OF OUR CITY COLLECTIVELY AS A PEOPLE. I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE IF YOU DON'T FIT, YOU JUST DON'T FIT. IN MY OPINION, FOR MY VOTE. AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. BEING REJECTED IS NOT A BAD THING BEING SAID NO TO. HOW DO WE BECOME A SOCIETY WHERE WE CAN'T HANDLE BEING SAID NO TO? AS A GROWN UP, AS AN INTELLIGENT PERSON, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY YES TO YOU. AND I HAVE A LOGICAL REASON FOR NOT SAYING YES TO YOU, AND THAT IS MY REASON, AND THAT'S MY REASON. AS I SIT IN THIS SEAT AS THE AUTHORITATIVE PERSON, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. NOW, WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SIT IN THIS SEAT, SIT IN THIS SEAT AND MAKE THAT DECISION. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ALL ON THE INTERNET AND SOCIAL, THIS AND DOING THAT AND ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL VICKI BYRD, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, WHICH I WOULD PROBABLY EXPECT, THAT'S YOUR ISSUE. BUT ALLOW ME TO BE THE AUTHORITATIVE VOICE SITTING IN THIS SEAT RIGHT NOW, AND YOU HAVE ALL THE OPPORTUNITY NOT TO HAVE ME COME BACK. IF YOU REJECT ME IN THE NEXT ELECTION, WHENEVER THAT IS, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE A FIT. I'M GOING TO GO AND TAKE MY LITTLE KIDS AND GO AND DO SOMETHING ELSE AND BE GLAD THAT I WAS HERE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE TO SET OUR EXPERIENCES. WE HAVE TO GROW UP AND BE AND BE OKAY WITH REJECTION. IT'S OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE. WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A CITY COUNCIL. WE ALL ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE IN THE NEXT, HOWEVER MANY YEARS, THREE YEARS, FOR THE MOST PART, YOU WILL HAVE A WHOLE NEW SLATE OF PEOPLE HERE MAKING DECISIONS. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST NOT YOUR TIME. IT'S NOT YOUR TURN. AND IF YOU ARE A TRUE BELIEVER, YOU'LL KNOW THAT SOMETIMES NO IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT'S SETTING YOU UP FOR THE NEXT BEST THING. THAT'S HOW I'M RAISING MY KIDS. WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS NO TO YOU, GO DO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING SAID NO TO FOR A REASON. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF I WOULD HAVE CHOSE TO SAY NO TONIGHT FOR MISS ERICA, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SIMPLE NO, I'M NOT READY FOR HER. IT'S NOT HER TURN, IN MY VIEW, OUGHT TO BE OKAY TO BE IT OUGHT TO BE OKAY FOR ME TO DO THAT FOR ALL THE GROWN PEOPLE IN THE ROOM CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. THE CHILDISH PEOPLE CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO BUSY LOOKING FOR EVERYBODY TO SAY YES TO THEM ALL THE TIME, AND THAT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN A REGULAR, NORMAL, SANE SOCIETY. SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. I AM TIRED OF BEING LOOKED AT. IF I'M BEING LOOKED AT THAT WAY, AND IF I AM, I DON'T CARE THAT IT'S PERSONAL.

I AM NOT HERE FOR LOYALTY. I'M HERE TO DO THE JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY IS MOVING FORWARD, AND THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO. IF HE SAYS YES,

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SHE'S READY FOR THIS. AND WE ARE, WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE TRUST HIS JUDGMENT. WE'RE GOING TO SAY YES. IF HE BRINGS SOMEBODY OR HE BRINGS SOMEBODY UP HERE THAT WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, YOU ALL OUGHT TO ALLOW US TO SAY NO AND BE MATURE ABOUT THAT. I CAN SAY NO. I'M STILL GOING TO BE. COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD YESTERDAY, TODAY AND TOMORROW UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR ME TO GO. AND THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH THAT, AND I DON'T APPRECIATE IT BEING ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. BEING ABLE TO SAY NO AND BEING ABLE TO DO IT COMFORTABLY. AND YOU STILL HAVE RESPECT FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. SO Y'ALL CAN TAKE WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT TO TAKE IT. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. AND WHEN I SAY NO, NO MEANS NO, PERIOD. WELL, WHY COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD? BECAUSE THIS, THIS AND THAT PERIOD. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE ON MY POINT.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS THINKING UP HERE. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. AND WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN, I'M GOING TO TAP YOU ON THE SHOULDER AND SAY, HEY, I NEED YOU FOR THIS. AND IF YOU SAY COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD, I CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW, WELL, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO SOMEONE ELSE. THAT'S MY JOB. I HATE TO LECTURE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS OUT OF. THIS IS OUT OF, THIS IS OUT OF ORDER TO ME. IT'S OUT OF ORDER. LET'S GROW UP. LET'S BE MATURE. LET'S GET OUT OF HERE. INSTEAD OF DRAGGING THIS ON AND ON, WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANYONE ELSE? IS THERE A SECOND? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX, COUNCILPERSON JESTER I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IF A MISS GARLAND IS INTERESTED IN SERVING, I THINK SHE'S VERY QUALIFIED TO SERVE. I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT PACK MEMBER AS WELL. AND I'M HAPPY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF HER. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I WILL SAY THIS THAT I WILL BE OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT ERICA AND HER AND HER SERVICE THIS WAY, BUT I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT HER TO PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH WILL COME FORTHWITH. AND IF I HAVE TO WAIT TILL MAY, WHEN THERE'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE HERE, I'LL WAIT TILL MAY. MY COMMITMENT THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION WAS THAT THAT'S MY NOMINEE. AND SO WE'LL SEE UNTIL MAY 26TH. BUT MY, MY THING IS THE CITIZENS OF DENTON ELECTED ME TO THIS OFFICE. I HAVE A RIGHT TO NOMINATE WHO I WANT TO NOMINATE. I'VE BENT AS FAR AS I CAN BEND. MY DAD IS THE SAME GUY THAT PROTESTED THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENT FOR 20 YEARS. IT'S IN MY BLOOD. I'M LOCKED IN. I SUPPORT ERICA. SHE WAS A SINGLE MOM. SHE'S WORKED HER TAIL OFF. SHE'S A HOMEOWNER. SHE'S PRETTY AWESOME. AND BY ALL RECORDS, BY ALL DOCUMENTS, OTHER THAN PEOPLE'S IDEAS AND MINDS AND THOUGHTS THAT ARE PRIVATE FOR PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, PUBLIC EVALUATION. SHE IS QUALIFIED. AND I STAND BY HER 110%, AND SHE'LL SERVE ON AIRPORT BOARD AND SHE'LL DO AN AMAZING JOB. AND WHEN SHE SERVES ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING, SHE'LL DO AN AMAZING JOB. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A COUNCIL THAT WILL SIT AT THIS DAIS THAT WILL NOT JUDGE PEOPLE, BUT WILL EITHER CHANGE THE ORDINANCES OR NOT, BUT ABIDE BY OUR WRITTEN RULES. IT IS A TERRIBLE THING WHEN A BODY DOESN'T ABIDE BY ITS OWN WRITTEN RULES. CHANGE THE RULES THEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, BUT OTHERWISE AS WRITTEN, SHE'S QUALIFIED BY EVERY PERSON THAT IS REMOVED FROM THIS SITUATION. AND SHE HAS MY 110% SUPPORT AND I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN. I'M NOT BUDGING ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN SUPPORTING PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT YOU AND HAVE EARNED IT. SO LET'S HAVE THIS VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER, HOW ARE YOU? HI EVERYONE ELSE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES 6 TO 1. TAKES US

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Rural Residential (RR) district to Light Industrial (LI) district on approximately 16 acres of land generally located 446 feet east of Masch Branch Road, 1,156 feet west of Lovers Lane, and to the south of Farm to Market 1173 in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [5-0] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval was made by Commissioner Padron and seconded by Commissioner Thaggard. (Z24-0010a, Metal Towns Rezoning, Bryce Van Arsdale).]

TO OUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THAT TAKES US TO FOR A WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S Z240010A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS REGARDING A CHANGE IN ZONING, DISTRICT AND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM RURAL RR

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DISTRICT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ON APPROXIMATELY 16 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED 446FT EAST OF MOSS BRANCH ROAD, AND SOUTH OF E FARM TO MARKET. 1173 IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BRYCE VANARSDALE, ASSISTANT PLANNER.

THIS IS Z 2410 A THIS IS A REZONE REQUEST FOR APPROXIMATELY 16 ACRES LOCATED JUST EAST OF MOSS BRANCH ROAD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FARM TO MARKET 1173. THIS IS A REQUEST TO MOVE FROM A RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OPEN PASTURE LAND. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES DESIGNATE THE MAJORITY OF THIS PROPERTY OF THIS LAND IN GENERAL AROUND THE AREA AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA IS INTENDED TO SERVE A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES SUCH AS LIGHT MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION, AS WELL AS SOME SUPPORTING USES SUCH AS RETAIL AND OFFICING. THIS REQUEST DOES MEET THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AS WELL AS THE DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS PROJECT WAS NOTICED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW AND IN THE STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION. THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT, EXCUSE ME, DID NOT CONDUCT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, BUT DID REACH OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS INDIVIDUALLY AND REPORTED BACK POSITIVE FEEDBACK. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AS IT MEETS THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN THE DDC. ON DECEMBER 11TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FIVE ZERO IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. BRYCE. WHAT? APPROXIMATELY WHAT PERCENT RATIO IS OF THE OF THE WHOLE PARCEL. IT'S ABOUT 15%. IT'S NOT A LARGE PORTION. THAT'S THE WESTERN PORTION ALONG THE RIPARIAN EAST OF THERE. YES SIR. AND IT'S ON ON ASSESSED RIGHT NOW. SO WE WOULD NEED TO HANDLE THAT. THE ENTIRE ASSESSMENT WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT, WHENEVER THE APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT COMES IN. AND AS, AS PART OF THAT THE THERE'D BE A DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT. YES, SIR. ANY DEVELOPMENT ON UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY WILL NECESSITATE THAT.

AND THIS OSTENSIBLY TIES TO HICKORY CREEK TO THE NORTH AND IS PART OF THE HICKORY CREEK BASIN. I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE SO. BASED ON THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION, I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP. AND IN THE BACKUP, THIS AREA ALONG THE RIPARIAN AREA WAS A PART OF THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR AND PART OF THE PREFERRED PRESERVATION PLAN MAPS. YES, SIR. I DO BELIEVE SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO ANYONE CAN SPEAK AND YOU CAN SPEAK AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT. IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT CARE TO SPEAK. YEAH. SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SEEING NO MOVEMENT. AND I WILL TAKE A MOTION OR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? WHAT THE FUTURE FOOTPRINT OF A PROJECT HERE IS GOING TO BE? AND I'M ASKING THIS BECAUSE OF OBVIOUSLY PROXIMITY TO NYSSA. SURE. SO THERE IS A PROPOSED PLAN RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL. YEAH. IT'S NOTHING HAS BEEN REVIEWED. NOTHING HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED, JUST A PROPOSED PLAN THAT WOULD LARGELY BE WAREHOUSING AS WELL AS SOME INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. I DO BELIEVE THE PROPOSED PLAN LEAVES SOME SPACE ON THAT WEST SIDE, AS THEY DO HAVE TO PRESERVE THAT ISA TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. IN THE BACKUP. I SAW THE STAFF ANALYSIS. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT RATHER THAN READ IT. STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE THAT THIS SITE CAN BE SAFELY DEVELOPED ON, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA THAT'S NEAR IT. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. AND IN COORDINATION WITH OUR TREE CODE, AS WELL AS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE AREAS AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DEVELOP THIS SITE IN A WAY THAT PRESERVES THOSE AREAS SAFELY. OKAY. THANK YOU AND WELL DONE. THANK YOU. AND I'LL MOVE. APPROVAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO? YEAH I APPRECIATE THE WHAT COUNCILOR MCGEE SAID AND WHAT STAFF SAID. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE ITEMS THAT I BROUGHT UP. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS. I THINK IF IT WERE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE PARCELS

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TO THE EAST. BUT BUT THIS ONE HERE, I CAN'T I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING IT AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. HOW SAY YOU. I OKAY EVERYONE ELSE'S PHOTO ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES FIVE TWO

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the city manager or their designee to protest Texas Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (“TPDES”) permit applications filed with the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (“TCEQ”), or its successor agency, that seek to discharge treated wastewater into Denton watersheds; providing an effective date.]

TAKES US TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. FIRST IS 5AD242480. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, A TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE TO PROTEST THE TEXAS POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM PERMIT APPLICATIONS FILED WITH THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, OR ITS SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO SEEK DISCHARGE. TREATED WATER, WASTEWATER, AND DENTON WATERSHEDS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I'M KYLE PEDIGO, PLANNING AND ENGINEERING DIVISION MANAGER FOR WATER UTILITIES HERE TONIGHT TO SEEK A ADOPTION OF A PROTEST AUTHORITY POLICY FOR THE TEXAS POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM. PERMITS. AS YOU MAY RECALL FROM A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION THAT I PUT IN DECEMBER, WE REFER TO THESE AS THESE PERMITS. A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE ZIPTIES PROGRAM. IT'S A REGULATORY PROGRAM TO CONTROL DISCHARGES OF POLLUTANTS INTO TEXAS SURFACE WATERS. TEXAS WAS GRANTED THIS AUTHORITY BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY IN 1998, AND THESE PERMITS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES DISCHARGING INTO WATER WITHIN THE STATE. FOR THE PERMIT PROCESS. IT INCLUDES A PUBLIC COMMENT, EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ENDS 30 DAYS AFTER THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S PRELIMINARY DECISION ON THE PERMIT IS PUBLISHED, AND A REQUEST FOR A HEARING OR PROTEST MUST BE PART OF A TIMELY SUBMITTED PUBLIC COMMENT, SO THEY MUST BE SUBMITTED WITHIN THAT 30 DAY WINDOW. WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, DENTON HAS SEEN SIX CITIES PERMIT SUBMITTED THROUGH THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PERMIT APPLICATION IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE WITHIN DENTON'S CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY BOUNDARY IN ORDER TO AFFECT OUR WATERSHED. SO THIS MAP SHOWS THE TWO OUT EAST, WHICH EVENTUALLY FLOW INTO LAKE LEWISVILLE, WHICH WAS NOT PART OF OUR CCN BOUNDARY. HOWEVER, SEVERAL APPLICATIONS ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE ACCOMMODATED THROUGH CONNECTION THROUGH OUR REGIONAL SYSTEM. ONE OF THESE IS THE SANGER, LAGUNA FACILITY IN RAINBOW VALLEY. SO WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH BOTH SANGER AND DALLAS, AND BOTH MUNICIPALITIES ARE PLANNING ON PROTESTING THIS PERMIT. THIS PLAN IS WITHIN SANGER'S CCN, BUT IT VIOLATES THEIR PLANNING STANDARDS. AND BOTH DALLAS AND SANGER ARE CONCERNED WITH THE LACK OF LACK OF LEVELS IDENTIFIED IN THEIR DISCHARGE WATER FOR PHOSPHORUS. THE DEVELOPERS DECLINED TO CONNECT TO AN EXISTING WASTEWATER SYSTEM, AND DENTON HAS HEARD FROM THE RAINBOW VALLEY AND WHITE HAWK COMMUNITIES WHO ARE CONCERNED WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND ACCESS TO THEIR COMMUNITY. HERE'S A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROTEST PROCESS. SO THE PERMIT THE PERMIT BEGINS WHEN AN OUTSIDE ENTITY FILES IT WITH TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. STAFF IS EITHER MADE AWARE THROUGH WRITING OR THROUGH MONITORING OF THE TCEQ DATABASE. ONCE WE RECEIVE THE PERMIT, WE REVIEW THE INFORMATION AND DECIDE IF THIS IS. IF THERE'S GROUNDS FOR PROTEST, COMPILE THE INFORMATION. ONCE THE INFORMATION IS COMPILED. A AN EXCUSE ME INFORMAL STAFF REPORT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL TO NOTIFY COUNCIL OF THE PROTEST, AND THE PROTEST WOULD BE FILED WITH T-C-E-Q. WHEN THE PROTEST IS FILED, T-C-EQ ADDS IT TO THE PERMIT IN THE DATABASE AND THEN T-C-EQ UPDATES ALL PROTESTING ENTITIES AS NEW INFORMATION DEVELOPS, WHICH COULD INCLUDE HEARING DATES AND POTENTIAL PERMIT MODIFICATIONS, AND STAFF IS FREE TO DROP THE PERMIT AT ANY TIME BASED ON THOSE PERMIT MODIFICATIONS IF THEY REMEDY THE CONCERNS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE IN THE PERMIT REVIEW.

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THE ADOPTION OF THIS PROTEST AUTHORITY ORDINANCE GRANTING THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO PROTEST ON THE BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TIPTON. PERMITS ISSUED BY TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. THE CITY

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COUNCIL WILL BE INFORMED OF EACH PROTEST THROUGH AN INFORMAL STAFF REPORT AND AT THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST. DETAILED UPDATES CAN BE PROVIDED THROUGH A WORK SESSION ITEM. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. KYLE. HAS T-C-EQ ALREADY REQUESTED? ALREADY GRANTED PROVISIONAL APPROVAL OF THIS? NO. SO THESE SIX THESE SIX PERMITS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THEIR QUEUE HAVE NOT BEEN GRANTED PROVISIONAL APPROVAL, PROVISIONAL APPROVAL YET. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE PROCESS IF THEY DID SO? IF THEY DID, THAT STARTS THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK. I CALL IT THE SHOT CLOCK, WHERE WE HAVE THAT 30 DAYS IN WHICH TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO PROTEST OR NOT. OKAY. SURELY. T-C-EQ, I GUESS I'M ASKING YOU TO PUT ON YOUR USUAL LOOK IN YOUR CRYSTAL BALL NOW, SURELY TQS OR TK BY NOW KNOWS THAT SANGER AND DALLAS ARE NOT FOR THIS? AND I'M SURE SOMEONE'S LOOKING AT OUR MEETING TONIGHT TO DECIDE IF WE DECIDE TO PROTEST. WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF STILL HAVING TO FIGHT WITH TK IN THE END? SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT PERMITS ARE UNLIKELY TO BE OUTRIGHT DENIED THROUGH PROTESTS. BUT WHAT THE PROTESTS CAN ACHIEVE IS A CHANGE IN CONDITION OF THE PERMIT APPROVAL. SO SOME SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS A PROBLEM, SUCH AS THE PHOSPHORUS LEVELS, MAY BE CORRECTED THROUGH THE PROTEST PROCESS. SO THEN PERHAPS YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHAT IS OUR OVERALL GOAL? IS OUR OVERALL GOAL TO STOP THIS, OR TO EXERT ENOUGH PRESSURE SO THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE INTO CHANGING SOME OF THE PARAMETERS OF THIS? IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I DON'T WANT TO PUT US IN IN LEGAL JEOPARDY. OBVIOUSLY. STEVEN GAY, GENERAL MANAGER, WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS. IT'S PRIMARILY SO WE HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. IF WE DON'T PROTEST, WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE. SO THAT'S OUR OBJECTIVE. COOL. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. ALONG A SIMILAR LINES, I HAD THE SIMILAR CRYSTAL BALL PROGNOSTICATION QUESTION.

SO I'LL EXTEND THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE. ULTIMATELY FOR ME PERSONALLY. AND I WON'T SPEAK FOR THE BODY, BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO TAKE A REGIONAL WASTEWATER APPROACH THAN THAN THE A ONE OFF INDIVIDUAL PACKAGE PLAN APPROACH. WHAT ARE THE LIKELIHOODS, DO YOU THINK? AND AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER CRYSTAL BALL QUESTION THAT THAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME OF NEGOTIATIONS. NOW EACH SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. BUT WE HAVE SEEN A SUCCESSIVE SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION WITH OTHER ENTITIES, TWO OR A SEPARATE MUD IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY WHERE THEY CONNECTED TO THE REGIONAL SYSTEM IN LIEU OF PUTTING IN A PACKAGE, PLANT OR WASTEWATER FACILITY. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. AS LONG AS YOUR CRYSTAL BALL IS OUT. WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER DECLINES TO CONNECT TO EXISTING WASTEWATER WASTEWATER SYSTEM? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THEIR MOTIVATIONS EXACTLY. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE MUCH MORE CONTROL OVER THE FACILITY. IF THEY'RE INSTALLING IT, HAVE TO BE CHEAPER. IT IT CAN BE CHEAPER. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION WITH THAT. A LOT OF IT IS LESS EXPENSIVE. AND AS HE SAID, IT'S MORE CONTROLLED BY THE DEVELOPER. IT'S YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES IN.

THEY CAN PUT IT IN THEMSELVES AND IT'S A CHEAPER OPTION MOST LIKELY. BUT THEN THEY HAVE MORE CONTROL. THEY HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER IT BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN WASTEWATER SYSTEM IS CHEAPER. WELL, TO DO THE PACKAGE PLANTS AND THEN HAVE TO WELL, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAUL THE SLUDGE, BUT IT IS MORE CONTROLLING BECAUSE THEY'RE MANAGING IT AND CONTROLLING IT ALL. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO. STEPHEN GAY, GENERAL MANAGER, WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS ESSENTIALLY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD IT TO OUR DESIGN CRITERIA, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE STRINGENT. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER ADVANTAGE OR ANOTHER, I WOULD SAY, MOTIVATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. OKAY. AND I LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. THANK YOU SIR. MR. MAYOR, A QUESTION PLEASE. WE'RE VOTING. WE'RE VOTING SIMPLY TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO PROTEST THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEN UPDATE US. THANK YOU. YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. COUNCIL PERSON. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M. I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. THERE WAS OVERWHELMING PUBLIC SUPPORT VIA E-COMMENTS. THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE AGAINST ONLY FOR. AS WELL AS THE DISCUSSION

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AND PUBLIC THAT SHOWED UP IN THE WORK SESSION WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS. THIS JUST ALLOWS SOME DISCRETION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. IF IT'S A PROBLEM.

HOWEVER, IT DOES GIVE US SOME KIND OF LEVER TO SAY WE WANT TO NEGOTIATE, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND NOT ALLOW THOSE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER TO PLACE IN OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

WHAT WE WILL THEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH. AND, YOU KNOW, WATER IS SOMETHING THAT IS SO, SO VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF DENTON. AND SO I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT MOVE. AND I'M IN FAVOR AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANKS, MAYOR. JUST ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION. I DIDN'T TAKE THIS DOWN IN MY NOTES. IT JUST CAME TO ME. WHAT'S THE COUNTY'S ROLE IN ALL OF THIS? DO THEY HAVE A ROLE IN ANY OF THIS? EXCUSE ME? THE COUNTY? YEAH, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NO, IT MIGHT BE NOTHING. I'M JUST ASKING. IT'S MOSTLY WITH MUNICIPALITIES THAT THAT TREAT WASTEWATER AND.

FAIR ENOUGH. YEAH. OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THEY ALSO GET TO PROTEST OR THEY WANT AN APPROVAL AND HOW THAT WORKS. BUT I'LL TAKE YOUR POINT. THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY. IT'S JUST MUNICIPALITY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, JOSEPH LANGLEY. IF YOU CAN COME UP, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI, I'M JOSEPH LANGLEY. I'M ALSO CALLED JERRY LANGLEY FROM RAINBOW VALLEY. I SAY PLEASE. PROTEST. WQ 0016624001. ONCE IN PLACE, IF THIS PLANT COMES THROUGH ONCE IN PLACE, THERE WOULD BE LITTLE TO STOP THEM FROM POLLUTING COTTONWOOD FALLS, ENOCH AND CLEAR CREEKS IN RAINBOW VALLEY. OTHER THAN AN EASILY AFFORDABLE SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR FAILING TO MEET ALREADY VERY LOW STANDARDS, AND THERE IS NO MENTION OF PHOSPHORUS OR OTHER HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS THAT ARE RUINOUS TO WATERSHEDS. THIS CONTINUOUS ENVIRONMENTAL CRIME PRODUCER WOULD LIKELY CAUSE ALL THE NEARBY CLEAN WATER WELLS TO RUN DRY, BECAUSE THERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES AROUND THIS SEWAGE PLANT, EVEN UP TO 7200 HOUSES. THE WELLS ARE DONE. IF THAT HAPPENS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO FIND THE WATER. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ROBBING THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE THERE, THAT'S FOR SURE. THEY'LL BE TAKING THAT GOOD CLEAN WATER. IT'LL BE GONE AND THEN THEY WILL BE JUST DUMPING TOXIC FILTH INTO DENTON'S WATERSHEDS WITHOUT MUCH REGULATION. SEE, THEY WANT TO RUN THEIR OWN SHOW BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEET OTHER PEOPLE'S STANDARDS FOR CLEAN WATER. YOU CAN JUST DUMP ALL OVER DENTON AND YOU KNOW, IT'LL IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT ALSO, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE COMMENTS, EXCEPT THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I GOT ONE IN, BUT I SPENT ABOUT FOUR HOURS OVER SEVERAL DAYS JUST FINDING A WAY. I COULD NOT TELL A PERSON HOW TO MAKE A COMMENT. ALL. ALL I NOTICE IS THAT AFTER HOURS OF STUMBLING AROUND, I FINALLY GOT ONE IN. SO EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS PERHAPS A DOZEN COMMENTS ON THIS, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE. I JUST KNOW IT. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION IS THAT THIS SITE THAT JIM HORN WANTS TO PUT HIS SEWAGE PLANT ON, IT'S 308 ACRES NEXT TO RAINBOW VALLEY. I LOOKED IT UP IN THE SOIL SURVEY OF DENTON COUNTY THAT WAS ISSUED IN JANUARY OF 1980. AND IT'S MOSTLY THIS PROPERTY IS MOSTLY MADE UP OF MEDLIN, SANGER, STONEY CLAYS, BLACK LAND RANGE SITE. THE THING ABOUT BLACK LAND RANGE SITE IS THAT THAT BLACKLAND PRAIRIE, LESS THAN 1% EXISTS. AND SO I MAY NOT BE THE PERSON TO DO IT, BUT IT'D BE NICE IF SOMEONE COULD MENTION TO JIM HORN THAT MAYBE HE WOULD CONSIDER PRESERVING SOME OF THIS.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANKS, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

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ONE. I MOVE APPROVAL. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. NOTHING MATTERS MORE THAN PROTECTING CLEAN WATER FOR RESIDENTS TODAY AND FUTURE RESIDENTS. SO HAPPILY SECONDING.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. HOW SAY YOU? HI EVERYONE ELSE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US

[B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the City Manager to execute an amended and restated Development Agreement with VS Development, LLC and Denton County Municipal Utility District No. 16 to remove terms for the fire service; consent to annexation of property into the district; add terms for additional services; and amend the Strategic Partnership Agreement with Denton County Municipal Utility District No. 16; and providing an effective date.]

TO ITEM FIVE B THAT IS ID 242355. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH WITH VES DEVELOPMENT, LLC AND DENTON COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 16 TO REMOVE TERMS AND FOR THE FIRE SERVICE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, BUSINESS SERVICES MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A REQUEST FROM THE DENTON COUNTY MUD NUMBER 16, ALSO KNOWN AS MEADOWS MUD.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO ADD ADDITIONAL LAND INTO THEIR MUD DISTRICT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER A FEW OF THE OVERVIEW OF THE MUDS AND THE CONCEPT AND BACKGROUND FOR MEADOWS. AND THEN WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY WITH THE AGREEMENT. SO, AS YOU'LL REMEMBER, A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT IS A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT CREATED TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. OUR HISTORY WITH MEADOWS, THIS WAS THE FIRST MUD THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH. THAT HAPPENED IN 2020. SO WE ALSO AMENDED THAT IN 2022 TO ADD A FIRE SERVICES AGREEMENT. AND THEN WE RECEIVED A CONSENT FOR PETITION IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT, ALONG WITH CONSENT RESOLUTIONS, TO CONSIDER FOR THE ADDITIONAL LAND THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. YOU CAN SEE THE MEADOWS MUD DEPICTED HERE. IT'S JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF FM 156. THE ORIGINAL MUD DISTRICT IS ON BOTH SIDES OF US 380. THE AREA DEPICTED IN PURPLE IS THE NEW ANNEXATION AREA THAT THEY'RE SEEKING. SO THEY'RE ALLOWED RIGHT NOW WITH 1600 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, EIGHT ACRES OF MULTIFAMILY, AND 19 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL. THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL AREA WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL 1106 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, 13 MULTIFAMILY ACRES, AND EIGHT ACRES OF COMMERCIAL. YOU CAN SEE HERE A SITE PLAN CONCEPT FOR THAT NEW AREA THAT THEY'RE CALLING CLEARWATER RANCH ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO ANNEX INTO THE DISTRICT. SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY, THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HERE ARE THE CHANGES FROM THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. EXCUSE ME. SO AS FAR AS SOLID WASTE PROVISIONS, WE WOULD BE THE SOLID WASTE PROVIDER FOR THIS DISTRICT. THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING CONVEYANCE OF ALL EFFLUENT AND SUPPORTING ANY FUTURE PERMITTING EFFORTS FROM THEIR WASTEWATER FACILITY, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING THE OPTION FOR US TO OPERATE THAT FACILITY IN THE FUTURE, IF WE SO CHOOSE TO. AND THEN ALSO WE WOULD EXPAND THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT TO MOVE FROM JUST A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION FOR COMMERCIAL USES AND ALLOW FOR FUTURE FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION.

IF THE CITY DECIDES AT A POINT IN THE FUTURE. SO MOVING FORWARD, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MODIFICATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THERE'S THREE SEPARATE ITEMS FOR THIS. IT WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE FOR AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THEN TWO DIFFERENT CONSENT RESOLUTIONS FOR EACH OF THE TRACTS THAT THEY'VE PETITIONED US FOR. IF COUNCIL WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE THIS, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH TWO DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARINGS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER MUDS RECENTLY. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. AND IF YOU CAN PULL THAT DOWN CHARLES. YEAH.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. YEAH. TOM MELTZER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A SORT OF A STATEMENT AND SEE IF YOU AGREE WITH IT, THAT WE'RE NOT BEING ASKED TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. WE'RE BEING ASKED TO ENABLE IT TO HAPPEN IN A WAY SO THAT IT IT UTILIZES THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE AND THAT AND THAT IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE IF IN THE FUTURE IT WERE ANNEXED. IS THAT A FAIR. SUMMARY? YEAH. THE CITY HAS LIMITED AUTHORITY ON ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THESE MUDS. WE OUR MUD POLICY STATES THAT WE WILL ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS LIKE THIS WITH THEM TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONTROL OVER HOW THESE ARE DEVELOPED.

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AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT RECENTLY. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THEY COULD THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THEM THAT THEY COULD CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THIS EITHER WAY, BUT WE HAVE SOME PROVISIONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO AFFECT IT IN SOME WAY. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. ALONG THE SAME LINES. KIND OF LOGICALLY EXTENDING FROM THIS. HOW WE'RE WE'RE ALIGNING THEIR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CLOSER TO OUR OWN. HOW HOW CLOSE IS CLOSE ARE THEY FOR THOSE ITEMS IN RED. ARE THEY FOLLOWING OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR THEY'RE JUST CLOSER TO OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO THE ITEMS IN RED ARE JUST THE CHANGES FROM THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT TO WHAT WE'VE ADDED IN THIS AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT. AS FAR AS OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WE DON'T HAVE THE ZONING AUTHORITY IN THE ETJ AND ESPECIALLY IN ETJ TWO, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE AUTHORITY, IF ANY AT ALL. AND THIS IS WHERE THIS PROPERTY RESIDES. SO ROADWAY STANDARDS INCLUDE CURB AND GUTTER AND THERE IS ADDITIONAL ROADWAY STANDARDS IN THERE. WE DO HAVE SOME ZONING AUTHORITY ON THE PERIPHERY OF US 380 THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO. AND THAT WOULD CONTINUE INTO THE NEW AREA. ALSO. IT'S JUST WE HAVE VERY LIMITED AUTHORITY IN WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THESE. WELL, AND THE REASON I ASK IS IF THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT WE'RE SETTING THIS UP FOR A FEW YEARS FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS GEARED MORE TOWARDS WHAT KIND OF RENOVATIONS ARE WE LOOKING AT TO BRING THEM TO OUR STANDARDS? IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHERE THE CRYSTAL BALL TAKES US TO CARRY THAT ANALOGY AGAIN. HOW BIG A LIFT IS THAT GOING TO BE TO FOR US, IF THEY EVENTUALLY BECOME DENTON TO MAKE THEM BE AT OUR STANDARDS? YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A HARD QUESTION. I REALIZE I DON'T HAVE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. I WILL SAY, AS FAR AS ANNEXATION GOES, THAT THAT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR OUR COUNCIL AT A POINT IN THE FUTURE. IT'S NOT GUARANTEED AT ALL. THEY WILL HAVE TO THEY WIL.

THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW THE CITY TO ANNEX, IF WE SO CHOOSE, AT A POINT IN THE FUTURE. WE DO HAVE SETBACK STANDARDS IN SOME OF THESE. BUT TINA, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT? YEAH, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. BUT ALL I WAS GOING TO ADD, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT I'M SORRY, TINA IS DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT RETROFIT WOULD WE BE DOING FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS STANDPOINT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT PROBABLY 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN PLACE AT THAT TIME.

AND THEN IF THEY WERE TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY WHAT WHAT ZONING TOOL WILL WE USE TO FUTURE REGULATE THEIR LAND USE? SO IT'S HARD TO SAY WITH THAT BEING 20 YEARS OUT IN THE FUTURE. NO, I GET THAT. BUT LET'S LET'S TAKE IT AS IF WE HAVE THE SAME REGULATIONS WE HAVE NOW. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN MAKE THAT PROGNOSTICATION. SO I'M TRYING TO GET I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I TAKE MAYOR PRO TEM POINT THAT WE'RE NOT STOPPING OR STARTING A DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE SEEING IF, HOW, WHETHER THEY'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH US. AND MY QUESTION IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF HOW FAR OUT OF ALIGNMENT WITH THIS WILL THEY BE IF WE APPROVE THIS? I MEAN, HOW DIFFERENT WILL IT BE? GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER TODAY FOR YOU. I THINK OUR OUR BIGGEST ACHIEVEMENT WITH THESE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS IS ESPECIALLY FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, OF HAVING THEM BUILT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR STANDARDS. AND AS CHARLIE MENTIONED, THAT'S THAT'S THE KEY THING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITH THESE IS THAT THEY'RE AT LEAST BEING BUILT IN CONSISTENT WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE STANDARDS. SO I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHARLIE MENTIONED WAS THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. RIGHT. SO IT'S BECAUSE OUR CONCERN IS 20 YEARS FROM NOW OR WHATEVER TIME THAT THE CITY DOES ANNEX, THEN KNOWING THE AT LEAST THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WILL BE INHERITING, BECAUSE FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO ALL THE MORE REASON WHY ON THE FRONT END, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING CONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR STANDARDS. BUT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY DEVELOP THE LOTS, ARE THEY COMPLYING WITH SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF INFORMATION TODAY? ALL RIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANKS, CHARLIE AND TINA.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MY QUESTION IS ANNEXATION WHERE WE'RE GOING? BUT I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT THAT'S 20 YEARS OUT. SO. YEAH, THE CITY COULDN'T EVEN CONTEMPLATE ANNEXATION UNTIL THEY PAID OFF ALL OF THE BONDS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WHICH IS A 20 TO 30 YEAR TIME FRAME. WHAT

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HAPPENS IF WE IF COUNCIL DECIDES AGAINST THIS TONIGHT? THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THEY COULD STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY IF THEY CHOSE TO. THROUGH PETITIONING. I WILL SAY THAT THE CONCEPT PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED ON THE ORIGINAL MUD DISTRICT, AND THEN THAT WOULD CONTINUE FOR THEIR USE MOVING INTO THE FUTURE. I HEAR YOU SAYING NOTHING, REALLY. YEAH. WHICH IS OKAY. THAT'S THE ANSWER. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO ADD, YOU KNOW, IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NOT APPROVING THIS REQUEST, THEN WHERE WE LOSE OUT IS ON THE ESPECIALLY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE OF THINGS IN BEING ABLE TO GET THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN PLACE. PERFECT. THANK YOU TINA. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. THE ORDINANCE INCLUDES THE PHRASE REMOVED TERMS FOR THE FIRE SERVICE CONSENT. AND I SEE ON PAGE 4TH JANUARY 22ND, DEVELOP AGREEMENT TO ADD A FIRE SERVICE AGREEMENT.

HOW DOES HOW DOES THIS VOTE AFFECT THAT. SO THEY WOULD THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THE COUNTY'S FIRE SERVICE PLAN MOVING FORWARD. AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE FIRE SERVICE FROM THE CITY OF DENTON. AND THEY HAVE FIRE SERVICE FROM THE CITY OF DENTON AS WE SPEAK. ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE, IS THERE? NO. IT WAS CONTEMPLATED TO BE UNDER THE CITY OF DENTON FIRE SERVICE, BUT MOVING FORWARD, THAT WOULD CHANGE AND THEY WOULD BE UNDER THE COUNTY'S NEW FIRE PLAN. DOES THAT COST US MONEY? DOES THAT COST? DOES THAT COST US MONEY? AS FAR AS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY. YEAH. YEAH. OR OR LOSING LOSING MONEY. IF WE REMOVE THE TERMS OF THE FIRE SERVICE AGREEMENT, THERE WERE A 16. I THINK IT WAS 16 CENT FIRE TAX ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIRE AGREEMENT. SO BUT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO COVER THE OPERATIONS FOR THE, THE PROVIDING FIRE SERVICE OUT IN THAT DISTRICT. SO AS FAR AS LOSING MONEY, WE WOULDN'T RECEIVE THAT REVENUE, BUT WE ALSO WOULDN'T HAVE THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING FIRE SERVICE THERE. THE THING AND THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IS. UNTIL THEY CALL US AND SAY WE HAVE A SITUATION THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE, COULD COULD A WELL ESTABLISHED FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKE DENTON COME AND ASSIST US? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME, THAT WE DON'T GET THE REVENUE FROM IT. BUT WE STILL HAVE THE WE STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE COVERAGE. IS THAT REASONABLE? SO THE WE WERE GOING TO GO INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO DELIVER FIRE SERVICE. WE IN COOPERATION WITH THE COUNTY, WE NO LONGER ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF NEEDED, WHICH WOULD HAPPEN ANYWAY? DID WE DO WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES? WE WOULD PROVIDE MUTUAL AID, WHICH IS AN AUTOMATIC SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO ALL OF OUR CONNECTING PARTNERS. SO NOTHING CHANGES. WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR RESPONDING TO THOSE CALLS. WE ARE REIMBURSED FOR MUTUAL AID THROUGH THE COUNTY. IS THAT HAS THAT BEEN THE CASE FOR IS THAT ESTABLISHED? YES IT IS. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. SOME OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED. CAN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME? GIVE IT AGAIN. SORRY, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER. OKAY. ARE YOU THERE? NO. THAT'S WORSE.

NO, OH. IT'S CHANGED. OH, THERE YOU GO. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. I'M SO SORRY, EVERYONE. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, AND. AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS HAD TO DO WITH THE EFFECT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE ON, ON FIRE SERVICES, BECAUSE I'VE HAD SOME CITIZEN OUTREACH ON THIS MATTER AND CONCERN ABOUT HAVING TO RETURN $300,000 THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR THE FIRE SERVICE. AND THEN IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THIS WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS, THAT THE MUTUAL AID IS NOT REIMBURSED, THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T REIMBURSE IF THEIR FIRE MARSHAL ASSISTS WITH DENTON AND

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INVESTIGATIONS. AND SO, I GUESS YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S MY QUESTION BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED US TO SUPPLY WATER, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE SUPPLYING THE FIRE PROTECTION. AND I, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT WHAT STATIONS OR HAVE ANY PLANNING HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE AND EXPENDITURES MADE THAT NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDEPLOY SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND JUST I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG THING HERE. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THESE ORDINANCES IS IT'S THE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES THAT THAT'S WHAT IS KIND OF THE CRUX OF ALL OF THIS. AND SO I WANTED JUST A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION OF WHAT IMPACT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE, IF ANY, TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT WE'VE INVESTED THUS FAR VERSUS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW WITH. THEY'RE ASKING TO RESCIND THAT IN FAVOR OF THE COUNTY PLAN. SO WE HAVEN'T INVESTED ANY MONIES INTO PROVIDING THE SERVICE OUT THERE. WHAT THIS REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS THE COUNTY IS ROLLING OUT A TIERED PROCESS IN WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING FIRE SERVICE TO THE MUDS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO US. IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE REIMBURSEMENT AS THEY'RE RESTRUCTURING, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING ABOUT THIS, WE CAN WHAT WE CAN DO IS GET TO COUNCIL. A RESPONSE FROM CHIEF HEDGES TOMORROW THAT WILL TRY TO LAY OUT IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE MANNER WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE EXACTLY FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY FOR THESE MUDS. BUT IN THE BASIC SENSE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE CLOSEST DEPARTMENT TO THIS AREA WOULD BE THEIR PRIMARY RESPONDERS TO ANY CALLS FOR SERVICE. IF NEEDED, THEN THEY WOULD PUT OUT A MUTUAL AID, WHETHER THAT'S TO US OR TO ANOTHER FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY GO. THERE'S DIFFERENT SITUATIONS IN WHICH WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR RESPONDING OUT THERE, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE WE WOULDN'T, BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE A WAY TO LAY THAT OUT. IN A DETAILED MANNER TONIGHT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS AS TO WHAT TRIGGERS WHAT KIND OF PAYMENT, IF ANY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE WAS AWARE OF AND THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE UPSIDE, THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS AGREEMENT, UNDERSTANDING THAT, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST PART OF WHAT WE'RE PASSING TONIGHT IS THE CHANGE IN THAT AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR, IS THIS YOU AGAIN OR. YEAH, IT'S ME AGAIN. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. GO RIGHT AHEAD. AND MR. DIXON, YOU YOU SPOKE EXACTLY TO WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. I'M WONDERING WHAT THE WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHAT THE GUYS, THE BOOTS. THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND OPINION OF THIS IS WHERE THEY WANT TO BE AS TO THIS, AS TO THIS AGREEMENT AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MUTUAL AID WAS NOT REIMBURSABLE. THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER MENTIONED. I'M JUST I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ABOUT THE FIRE THING ON THIS AND WHERE WHERE THE FIRE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO GO. AND IF THE DENTON FIRE TRUCKS WANT TO BE GOING OUT THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S A BIG CONCERN TO ME. AND I'M WONDERING WHAT HAPPENS IF WE IF THIS IS VOTED DOWN. WHAT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE WHAT HAPPENS THEN? LET ME TAKE A LET ME TAKE A SWING IF THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE QUESTION AS I HEAR IT IS, DO THE FIREFIGHTERS IN DENTON WANT TO GO OUTSIDE OF DENTON AND FIGHT FIRES? AND DO WE WANT TO PAY FOR THAT. AND SO THAT'S REALLY IF WE'RE THAT'S REALLY THE WHAT I'M HEARING. AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT FUNDED WELL ENOUGH TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR FIRE SECURITY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND THEN I WOULD AS YOU'RE AS YOU'RE ANALYZING, I WOULD DIRECT YOU TO THE CHANGE IN STATE LAW. IF YOU IF YOU WOULD THINK BACK A FEW YEARS BACK IN THESE INSTANCES, THERE WOULD BE A PATH FORWARD FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO BE ANNEXED. BUT CURRENTLY, AS A STATE LAW IS AND THE PROSPECTS ARE NOT GETTING ANY BETTER, THEY DON'T GET ANNEXED UNLESS THEY WANT TO GET ANNEXED. SO THE COUNTY IS NOW HAVING TO LOOK AT A WORLD WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MANAGE THE COUNTY DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY DID IN YEARS PAST. AND THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW TO EVERYONE, RIGHT? IT'S JUST A FEW YEARS OR A YEAR OR SO THAT THIS ANNEX ISSUE CAME UP. AND NOW THE NORMALLY THE COUNTY WOULD GROW THAT AREA, IT WOULD BE ANNEXED BY THE CITY.

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THE CITY WOULD COVER THAT. BUT NOW THAT'S ALL FLIPPED UPSIDE DOWN. AND SO THE COUNTY'S NOW HAVING TO FACE A WORLD WHERE THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN A DIFFERENT WAY. AND SO THE QUESTION BEFORE ME IS I EVALUATE THIS IS I WANT THE DENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT IN DENTON. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN IS, OH, BY THE WAY, OUR FIREFIGHTERS WERE OUT ON 380 AND A FIRE HAPPENED IN DENTON PROPER AND WE COULDN'T COVER IT. SO THAT TO ME IS THE QUESTION IS, DO I WANT TO PRIORITIZE DENTON AND DENTON ISSUES AND RESPONSE WITH DENTON RESPONSE TEAMS? AND THE ANSWER IS YES FOR ME, IRRESPECTIVE. AND I'M MINDFUL OF OUR SURROUNDING AREAS. THAT'S JUST NOT MY FIRST PRIORITY. SO THE COUNTY STEPPING UP IN A BIG WAY TO ADDRESS THIS NEW CULTURE.

WE'RE IN, THIS NEW WORLD MAKES SENSE. BUT THAT THAT TO ME IS IF I HEAR YOUR QUESTION RIGHT, JUST TO GO BACK TO THAT, IT'S DO THE FIREFIGHTERS IN DENTON WANT TO GO OUTSIDE OF DENTON TO FIGHT FIRES? THEY WILL IF THEY HAVE TO. CERTAINLY THEY THEY GO OUT OF STATE. THEY DO ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT DO WE WANT THAT TO BE THE REGULAR AND THE NORM OR EXPECTATION? I DON'T, I DON'T I THINK THEY WOULD SAY THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR HOME BASE, IF YOU WILL. AND THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S TAKE ON THIS. YOU MAY BE SPEAKING FOR THEM. NO, NO, I DON'T THINK IT GETS TO US WITHOUT CHIEF HEDGES GIVING IT THE THUMBS UP. I DON'T THAT'S NOT I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANYBODY. I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD GET THIS FAR WITHOUT US HEARING FROM THEM. I HEAR FROM HIM REGULARLY ON THINGS. AND SO I THINK IF HE HAD AN ISSUE, WE WOULD KNOW. DOES THE FUNDING OUTWEIGH THE TIME COMMITMENT, THE RISK, THE ALL THE ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT ARE THAT ARE EMBODIED IN THIS? WELL, I TAKE CHARLIE'S POINT. IT'S A WASH. WHAT YOU WOULD TAKE IN, YOU HAVE TO SPEND PLUS AND PLUS YOU HAVE TO FRONT IT. AND PLUS YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. IT'S ALMOST A RELIEF. YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND FIRE TRUCKS ARE FOUR YEARS OUT, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FRONT THE MONEY ORDER NOW, WOULDN'T HAVE A TRUCK. WE GOT TO FIND A TRUCK AND THAT'S WHERE IT COMES IN. YOU GOT TO USE A TRUCK IN DENTON BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET A NEW TRUCK TO COVER 380 ANYTIME SOON. AND SO I THINK IT'S A RELIEF FUNDING WISE, BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOT TO FRONT THAT MONEY. NO ONE'S GOING TO PAY YOU FOR A FIRE STATION AND THREE TRUCKS AND ALL THESE THINGS UP FRONT. NO ONE'S DOING THAT.

YOU'D HAVE TO INCUR THAT OR INCUR THAT OVER TIME. AND SO THE $300,000 FOR ME, AS WE LOOK AT A TWO, $2.3 BILLION BUDGET, WE SPEND HAPPY TO RELIEVE THE $300,000. AND THE CONCERN ABOUT NON DENTON STUFF, THAT TO ME IS A RELIEF. NOW I COULD BE I HAVE A VERY NARROW WORLD VIEW.

DENTON. BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. I'M I'M FRANKLY CONCERNED ABOUT A MY FRIENDS AT DENTON COUNTY THAT HAVE NOT PUT A FIRE TRUCK ON THE STREET YET AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING OVER THIS, THIS THING. BUT BUT I GET YOU MY WORLD. MY WORLD BEGINS AND ENDS IN THE CITY OF DENTON. MAYOR. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE I'M ALMOST THERE WITH YOU. I APPRECIATE THE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE $300,000. HAS THAT ALREADY BEEN TAKEN UP? WE HAVE TO GIVE THAT BACK. THAT'S MY ONLY MY LAST QUESTION ABOUT THIS, AND I'M DONE. YEAH, WE'VE COLLECTED THE 300,000 AND WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE IT BACK.

THE 300,000 IS A CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION THAT THEY WERE MAKING FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION. OKAY. SO NOT SPEND ON ANYTHING SITTING AND WAITING. EASY TO GIVE IT BACK. THAT'S CORRECT. THANKS, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL GOOD. GOOD DISCUSSION. ANY ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY I MOVE, I MOVE. APPROVAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, I FULLY I'M I'M THERE I WASN'T ALL THE WAY THERE. BUT THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME GET THERE. HAPPY TO SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS. I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET AROUND THE FACT THAT WE'RE SORT OF OVER A BARREL FOR UTILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND, AND ANYTHING ELSE WE DO IS GOING TO BE WORSE. I, I WANT TO VOTE NO, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IMPROVES DENTON. SO I'M GOING TO VOTE A RELUCTANT YES. NO, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ALWAYS DELICATE BALANCING ISSUES FOR

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SURE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. HOW SAY YOU I AND EVERYONE ELSE'S PHOTO ON THE SCREEN. THAT

[C. Consider approval of a resolution of the City Council of the City of Denton, Texas consenting to the annexation of certain land into Denton County Municipal Utility District No. 16; and providing an effective date.]

PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM FIVE C THANK YOU ALL. TAKES US TO FIVE C WHICH IS. ID TWO FOR 2356. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, CONSENTING TO THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN LAND INTO DENTON COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 16 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SAME PRESENTATION. IT WAS ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSED IN THIS IN THE SAME PRESENTATION. YES, SIR. SO THAT'S FOR ALL THREE ITEMS. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS THE FIRST ITEM. C AND D ARE BOTH THE CONSENT TO THE ADDITION OF THE LAND INTO THE DISTRICT. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS ITEM FIVE C REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE, MAYOR PRO TEM MOSER I MOVE APPROVAL. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING? NONE.

COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. HOW SAY YOU I OKAY EVERYONE ELSE'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT THAT'S

[D. Consider approval of a resolution of the City Council of the City of Denton, Texas consenting to the annexation of certain land into Denton County Municipal Utility District No. 16; and providing an effective date.]

APPROVED SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM FIVE D ID 242634. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, CONSENTING TO ANNEXATION OF LAND IN DENTON COUNTY. MUNICIPAL DISTRICT. MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 16, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. MAYOR PRO TEM, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. IN A SECOND DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. HOW SAY YOU? I THIS IS DE GUY. THANK YOU. AND EVERYONE ELSE'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. AND THAT TAKES US TO

[6. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

CONCLUDING ITEMS. THANK YOU ALL. CONCLUDING ITEMS. ANY CONCLUDING ITEMS REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. WE SAW THIS WEEK THAT THAT AFTER A LIFETIME OVER 100 YEARS AND MY ENTIRE LIFE IN TIME SPAN OF SERVICE, WE UNFORTUNATELY LOST PRESIDENT CARTER AND HE HE HE REALLY DID SET A HUGE LEADERSHIP BAR AND HIS IMPACT IN LEADERSHIP AND GIVING BACK TO HIS COMMUNITY WILL DEFINITELY BE MISSED. AND MY CONDOLENCES TO NOT ONLY HIS FAMILY, BUT TO THE TO THE LACK OF LEADERSHIP THAT HE'LL HE'LL HE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK BACK IN THE HISTORY BOOKS TO, TO SEE FROM THEN ON. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. FIRSTLY I WANT TO OF COURSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE WEATHER THAT'S COMING UP. AND WE CERTAINLY WANT YOU ALL TO BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON HERE IN THIS ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY FOR SURE. LATTER PARTS OF WEDNESDAY, I UNDERSTAND. AND ALSO ON THURSDAY, WHILE I'M STUCK IN THE HOUSE, I'M GOING TO BE SELLING MY CELEBRATING MY BIRTHDAY. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT MY BIRTHDAY IS COMING UP ON THURSDAY. I DO ACCEPT GIFT CARDS. THAT'S A AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE YOU ALL WANT TO KNOW THAT PART. THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. IT'S COLD. WRAP YOUR PIPES AND BRING YOUR PETS INDOORS. A FRIEND OF MINE HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY THIS PAST WEEK. AND CITY OF DENTON FIRE AND AN AMBULANCE CAME OUT AND TOOK CARE OF HIM. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU GUYS. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. WE HAD A NEW CONGRESS SWORN IN. SO JUST OFFERING OUR WELL WISHES AND MY PRAYERS. AND THANKS TO THE SERVICE OF DOCTOR BURGESS AND ALSO PRAYERS FOR HIS FAMILY ON THE RECENT LOSS HE HAD LAST MONTH. BUT YEAH, PRAYERS AND WELL WISHES FOR DOCTOR JACKSON AND MISTER GILL AS THEY BEGIN THEIR THEIR SERVICE IN THIS TERM AND IN SUPPORT OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DENTON. SO WE'RE WISHING THEM WELL, HOPING THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO A GOOD JOB FOR ALL OF US. GOT IT. ANY ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER

[03:30:01]

CONCLUDING ITEMS? OKAY. REAL QUICK. FIRST IT WAS OVER THE BREAK, BUT I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION IT. MY OLDEST, HER NAME IS LANISHA AND SHE HAD A TWO DAYS AFTER CHRISTMAS. SHE HAD HER BIRTHDAY. SO I HAVE A 30 YEAR OLD NOW AND SO SHE'S AWESOME AND SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY! HER NICKNAME BY BY THE KIDS IS, WELL, I WON'T SAY THAT. I WON'T DO IT TO HER. IT'LL BE ARCHIVED FOREVER. BUT BUT HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LANISHA. AND THEN I WANT TO ECHO THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE A CONGRATULATIONS TO THE ENTIRE 119TH CONGRESS. I WAS GRATEFUL TO MY WIFE, AND I WERE GRATEFUL TO BE A GUEST OF COUNCIL CONGRESSMAN GIL, AS HE WAS SWORN IN, AND TO BE IN DC AND WATCH HOW THE SAUSAGE WAS MADE WAS WAS GREAT. AND TO SUPPORT OUR TEXAS DELEGATION IS ALWAYS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE AND SHARE IDEAS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT ABOUT DENTON AND THE MORE BROADLY DENTON COUNTY. THEN I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE DENTON COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WERE SWORN IN. WE HAVE SOME NEW FOLKS. YOU'LL NOTICE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, BUT THERE'S A NEW COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, SO THEY'LL BE YOU'LL BE WRITING A CHECK TO A NEW PERSON. SHE'S AWESOME. AND SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE THAT SERVE OUR COUNTY. AND THEN THE BLACK FILM FESTIVAL IS COMING UP. SO PLEASE GET YOUR TICKETS NOW. BLACK FILM FESTIVAL IN DENTON. IT RUNS FROM JANUARY 22ND TO THE 26TH. SO PLEASE GET TICKETS AND PASSES FOR THAT. AND THEN AS ALWAYS, VOLUNTEERS ARE ALWAYS NEEDED AT OUR DAILY BREAD. SO PLEASE, IF YOU'RE IN THE IF YOU'RE IN A POSITION TO VOLUNTEER, PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING GIVING YOUR TIME TO THEM AND HELPING SUPPORT THAT AMAZING ORGANIZATION AND THE WORK THEY DO TO SERVE OUR CITY. AND THEN LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY GO MEAN GREEN. IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT BASKETBALL GAME AGAINST MEMPHIS, THEY BEAT UAB LAST MINUTE. THEY WERE DOING AMAZING THINGS. WE HAD A FOOTBALL TEAM THAT PERFORMED WELL AND SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE B TEAM OR C TEAM, BECAUSE THE QUARTERBACK THAT PLAYED THERE HADN'T STARTED SINCE HE WAS ON THE B TEAM. SO I HAVE A UNIQUE FONDNESS FOR THOSE OF US THAT THAT NEVER COULD MAKE THE A TEAM. BUT HE HE HE WAS HE'S LIKE OUR UNCLE RICO. HE CAN THROW THE FOOTBALL OVER THE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jan 07, 2025 City Council on 2025-01-07 2:00 PM

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