Feb 18, 2025 City Council on 2025-02-18 3:00 PM

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025. IT IS 3 P.M. WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST THING IS CITIZEN

[2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda for public hearing and individual consideration.]

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff input regarding the recently concluded Halloween Denton 2024 public art and placemaking efforts. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

WE BROUGHT THE BUSINESSES TOGETHER. WE BROUGHT OUR SPECIAL EVENTS TOGETHER. AND OUR MESSAGE TO THEM WAS, HERE'S OUR VISION, HERE'S THE CONCEPT, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU. WE REALLY NEED YOU TO LEAN INTO THIS, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY AND MAKE IT WHAT IT CAN BE. AND OBVIOUSLY, OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND OUR, OUR SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY REALLY STEPPED FORWARD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. JUST SOME SOME OF THE THINGS ON HERE I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHILE THIS IS A SPECIAL EVENT AND SOME IN IN A LOT OF WAYS IT'S REALLY ART AS WELL. AND A CELEBRATION OF OUR CREATIVE PEOPLE. WE HAD PHONE BOOTHS, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT PHONE BOOTHS WOULD BE SOMETHING AS INNOVATIVE AND IMAGINATIVE AS WHAT THEY WERE? YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, PROBABLY A THIRD OF OUR POPULATION HAS NEVER USED A PHONE BOOTH. SO PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO STAND IN THEM WITH THE DECORATIONS AND TAKE PHOTOS. I MEAN, IT WAS VERY SIMPLE. WE CELEBRATED OUR CHERRY ORCHARD AND THE HISTORY OF THAT IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THE SCARY CHERRY ORCHARD. WE HAD 140 LOCAL ARTISTS, WHETHER THEIR PROFESSIONAL OR THEIR KIDS DECORATE CHAIRS. AND WE HAD PEOPLE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE SEEN THEM HERE AT CITY HALL, VISITING CITY HALL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE MONTH. WE WORKED WITH UNT AND TWU TO BRING THEIR BASKETBALL TEAMS DOWNTOWN TO THE SQUARE. OUR NORTH TEXAS GHOST BUSTERS.

WE HAD THEY VOLUNTEERED APPROXIMATELY 1500 HOURS THEMSELVES. AND THIS THEY THEY TOLD US THIS WAS THEIR CHRISTMAS. THEY WERE SO EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT. BUT WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS FROM THE COMMUNITY HELPING WITH DECORATIONS, PAINTING, BATS, HEADSTONES, ETC. AND BEING INVOLVED. OBVIOUSLY, OUR BUSINESSES STEPPED UP. DENTON COUNTY BREWING HAD THREE BEERS THAT THEY RELEASED, CRAFT BEERS THAT CELEBRATING OUR OUR CRAFT CITY, CRAFT BEER CITY. THEY SOLD OUT A COUPLE TIMES. THEY HAD TO BREW. AND IT JUST WAS IT WAS A MAGICAL MONTH. OUR WEATHER WAS PERFECT. SO JUST A SHOUT OUT TO THE LOCAL ARTISTS, OUR BUSINESSES, THE GHOSTBUSTERS, ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND OUR DOWNTOWN CORE OF OUR CITY. THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR CITY FOR EVERYTHING THEY DID. WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM, WE FOCUSED ON THE THREE P'S OF HALLOWEEN PROGRAMING, PLACEMAKING, AND PROMOTION. ORIGINALLY, WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SPECIAL EVENT GOING ON FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH. SO AT A MINIMUM 31

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A LOT OF IT WAS WAS HOMEMADE ITEMS. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY ALL BOUGHT OFF THE SHELF. TO CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD EXPLORE THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN. SO THE GOAL WAS TO PUSH PEOPLE AROUND DOWNTOWN AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB ON THAT IN THE FUTURE. TO TRY TO GET THEM, ESPECIALLY TO AREAS, MAYBE THAT TRAFFIC DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS TRAVEL. SO THAT WAS A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT IN THE DOWNTOWN AND ATTRACTED TO HERE. AND THEN FROM A PROMOTION STANDPOINT, OUR MARKETING TEAM WITH DUSTIN, KAYLA AND THE REST OF THEIR TEAM REALLY KINDLED THE FIRE TO GET IT GOING, CREATED THAT INTEREST LEVEL, AND THEN IT JUST TOOK ITS OWN VIRAL PERSONALITY ON, AND IT GOT STARTED AND IT JUST WENT CRAZY AND PEOPLE STARTED SEEING US ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE HAD ONE FAMILY COME FROM SWEDEN THAT SUPPOSEDLY THEY SAW IT ONLINE AND THEY CAME HERE. I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. BUT THAT'S A GOOD STORY. THEY'RE STICKING TO IT. YEAH. AND WE KNOW WE HAD A MAYOR FROM WASHINGTON, THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, COME IN THE VISITOR CENTER THAT WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. WE HAD ALL 50 STATES AND DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA VISIT, SO THAT'S KIND OF FUN.

OBVIOUSLY COLLEGE TOWN, WE HAVE COLLEGE STUDENTS HERE THAT ARE ALL FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

SO THAT PROBABLY HELPED WITH THAT. BUT WE HAD ABOUT 60% VISITORS TO NONRESIDENTS. WE HAD 662,000 VISITATIONS TO DOWNTOWN IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. IN 2024. THAT'S 145,000 MORE THAN WE HAD IN OCTOBER OF 23. FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT. WE GENERATED APPROXIMATELY $210,000 IN SALES TAX IN ALCOHOL BEVERAGE TAX, AND WE SPENT ABOUT $166,000 IN OPERATIONS. EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE HAD ABOUT 4 OR 5 CORE MEETINGS DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS LEADING UP TO THE MONTH.

WE SHARED OUR OUR GOALS AND OUR VISION FOR HALLOWEEN. FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT WAS BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE DOWNTOWN TO ENHANCE OUR ECONOMIC IMPACT. CREATE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH WE SAW A LOT OF THAT, AND IT WAS A LOT OF POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE MONTH. ENHANCE OUR CULTURE, ENHANCE OUR PUBLIC SPACES, WHICH WE DID WITH THOSE PLACEMAKING OPPORTUNITIES AND REALLY SHOWCASE THE CREATIVE CREATIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

COINCIDENTALLY, WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT OUR PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN AND THE GOALS THAT ARE SET IN THAT WE REALLY MET. MOST OF THOSE. THE ONLY ONE I FEEL LIKE WE PROBABLY DIDN'T DO AS MUCH AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE TIME, IS PROMOTE A COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT THAT ATTRACTS ARTISTS, LIVE AND WORK. BECAUSE HALLOWEEN WAS SO NEW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY MOVING HERE BECAUSE OF HALLOWEEN, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE KNOW OF. BUT THE ONE THING, THE NUMBER THREE, THE THIRD ONE THERE IS DISTINGUISHED DENTON'S IMAGE IN THE METROPLEX. AND I THINK WE REALLY DID THAT IN THE FIRST YEAR. AND IF WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD, I THINK WE CAN CEMENT THAT. FROM A HALLOWEEN PERSPECTIVE, AS A HALLOWEEN TOWN IN THE FIRST YEAR AND MARKETING EFFORTS, IT WAS MORE FOCUSED ON THE DFW AREA TO GET PEOPLE HERE, CREATE THAT CORE KIND OF INTEREST BUSINESS, AND THEN SLOWLY START TO INCREASE THAT TO GET PEOPLE FROM FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA WITH USING OUR HOTELS. NOW, DUSTIN, WE HAD YOU SAID 12% WAS OUT OF STATE OF 145,000 PEOPLE, OR I GUESS THE 662,000 PEOPLE WERE OUT OF STATE RESIDENTS. FROM A FINANCIAL OUTCOME, THIS IS PROVIDED BY CITY BASED THROUGH OUR FINANCE TEAM. AND JESSICA CAN STEP UP AND ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY, THEY'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT WHERE OUR SALES TAX COMES FROM AND WHERE MOST LIKELY MAY HAVE COME BECAUSE OF HALLOWEEN IN THOSE TYPES OF ENVIRONMENTS. SO FROM A RETAIL FOOD SERVICE STANDPOINT, WE'RE UP 13%. BIG BOX OR OUR RETAIL, WE'RE UP 7% ACROSS THE CITY. AND

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SO A COUPLE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ON, AS GARY MENTIONED, AND YOU SAW FROM THAT PICTURE, WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT FOUNDATION. SO THE CEMETERY WAS A HUGE HIT. THE SCARY CHERRY ORCHARD. SO SOME OF THOSE FOUNDATIONAL THINGS, MAKING THEM UNIQUE AND BUILDING ON THEM. THE HAUNTED HOTLINES INCREASE OUR PROGRAMING SPONSORSHIP. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND HAVE SPONSORS, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON SPONSORSHIP PROGRAMS FOR THAT OPENING AND CLOSING CEREMONIES. A COUPLE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL VOLUNTEER ENGAGEMENT AND EXPANDING OUR ENHANCING OUR PROMOTIONS THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, OUR MEDIA ENGAGEMENTS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCES WITH FOOD, DRINK, COMEDY, SHOW AND VIRTUAL REALITY. A COUPLE OF WHAT WE

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BUT FEEL FREE TO EXPAND ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE. WE BOTH CAN. SO WE WERE ACTUALLY AT A CONFERENCE, A CONFERENCE IN 2023, 2023 AND SAT IN ON A CITY IN CONWAY, SOUTH CAROLINA. YEAH, WE DID THAT. CAME BACK. I SAT IN THE TRAINING SESSION AND IT WAS GARY'S BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER. LIKE YOU COULD TELL THIS WAS A GARY AND CAME BACK AND GAVE GARY GARY FACTORY THAT WAY.

YEAH, THEY I DO THINK THAT THEY MIGHT BE RELATED. CAME BACK, STARTED HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS OF THIS FEELS REALLY LIKE A GOOD FIT FOR DENTON. IT'S VERY IT'S VERY EMBRACED IT. AND INCIDENTALLY I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP IF YOU DIDN'T. BUT I HEARD THE SWEDEN STORY, I THINK, FROM BEN EASLEY WHO ACTUALLY MET THEM. SO WE LIKE A LITTLE MORE CREDENCE TO THAT. YEAH. BUT MY QUESTION WAS ON THE INCREMENTAL REVENUE, THE 210,000 WE MEASURING VERSUS OCTOBER PRIOR YEAR. CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO DO IT. AND IT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER. THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY COULD DEDUCE TO. SO WE DO FEEL LIKE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A LARGER IMPACT. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF TRACKING THAT. WE'RE LOOKING AT ECONOMIC IMPACTS. AND THEN WE HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SHORE UP ON, ON HOW WE'RE TRACKING EXPENSES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COST RECOVERY. GREAT. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. YOU KNOW, I LOVE QUALITY OF LIFE. SECTOR OF OUR, YOU KNOW, LIFESTYLE AS WE CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE, YOU KNOW, NOT AS VISITORS OR STUDENTS. THIS IS OUR HOME. THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE. WE WANT TO BE SAFE AND WE WANT TO HAVE FUN. YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE FUN AND WHERE YOU LIVE. SO IT'S I CAN JUST KEEP GOING ON ABOUT HOW PROUD I AM AND JUST BRAGGING. THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF TO BRAG ON IN THIS CITY, BY THE WAY. BUT MY QUESTION IS PARKING. DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF ISSUES? PARKING? I DON'T THINK I HEARD THAT PARTICULAR WORD. I THINK MAYBE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. CAN YOU EXPOUND ON THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT PARKING IS A IS A IS A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD. I DID NOT HEAR ANY ISSUES RELATED TO PARKING. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUR PEAK TIME WAS IN THE EVENING WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AT NIGHT TIME, THERE WERE TIMES WHEN THERE WAS VERY LITTLE PARKING. YOU HAD TO PARK, YOU KNOW, AT THE LIBRARY TO, TO GET DOWNTOWN. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CHALLENGE AND INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGE. BUT I DIDN'T HEAR. I PERSONALLY DIDN'T GET ANY

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IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET ON THE SQUARE. OKAY. IT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE SIDEWALK. IT WAS REALLY FUN TO SEE, BUT PEOPLE WERE JUST KIND OF TROLLING THE SQUARE, KIND OF GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES. IT WAS IT WAS FUN TO SEE ALL THE ACTIVITY. I LOVE IT. SO WILL YOU ALL PLEASE HAVE THAT HOVERING OVER IN THE CONVERSATION? AND THE OTHER THING IS EXPANSION USING OTHER CITY FACILITIES, OR IS THIS JUST CONNECTED TO DOWNTOWN PERIOD. SO ANYBODY CAN BE INVOLVED IN IT? OKAY. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT. THAT'S A PRIVATE PRIVATE PEOPLE. I THINK THE HEARTBEAT OF THE EVENT IS DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THE WALKABILITY, IF BUSINESSES WANT TO JUMP IN AND BE INVOLVED.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE BY ANY MEANS. BUT IT BOILS DOWN TO US TRYING TO BE RESOURCEFUL WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AND TRYING TO HELP EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME. BUT YEAH, I JUST I ASK THAT BECAUSE OF THE PRESENTATION TO EXPAND SPONSORSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. HOW WOULD THOSE PARTICULAR BUSINESSES BE INCORPORATED, YOU KNOW, AS, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT HERE? BUT THEY'RE NOT IN DOWNTOWN. THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M. YES, THAT'D BE FINE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO IT'LL WORK. YOU ALL ARE ALREADY OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. AND JUST GREAT JOB. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REPRESENTATIVE FROM FOR AND THEN DISTRICT TWO.

THANK YOU. GREAT FUN. JUST JUST A REALLY REALLY FUN PROJECT A COUPLE OF THINGS. WHERE DID WHERE DID VISITORS STAY. DO YOU DO YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T I WE DIDN'T TRACK THAT TO THE TO THE LEVEL THAT WE'D LIKE TO IN THE FUTURE. WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE AS MANY PEOPLE COMING IN OUT FROM OUT OF TOWN. THE 12% THAT THAT DUSTIN WAS TALKING ABOUT. OVERALL, THE HOTEL STAYS WERE FAIRLY FLAT FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER BASED OFF THE CVB, BUT WE COULD PULL A REPORT TO SEE HOW THE NUMBERS COMPARED TO PRIOR YEARS. YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT THAT THE HOT THE HOT REVENUE WOULD BE COMPARED THIS YEAR FROM, FROM LAST YEAR AND THEN AND THEN SEE WHERE THOSE GUYS STAY BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE TO STAY DOWNTOWN. THAT'S CORRECT. AT LEAST NOT NOT IN A TRADITIONAL SENSE. YEAH. NO, IN IN COMING YEARS, WILL YOU CHANGE OUT THINGS FOR EXAMPLE WILL THAT WILL YOU, WILL YOU TAKE OUT THE CEMETERY? WILL YOU TAKE OUT THE CHERRY ORCHARD AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE, OR DO YOU BUILD ON THAT OR WHAT. YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. I THINK WE NEED TO BALANCE THAT WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, THE BUDGET AND KEEPING IT FRESH, BECAUSE I CAN SEE SOMEBODY SAYING, WELL, I'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT. I DON'T NEED TO GO BACK. RIGHT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHAIRS, FOR EXAMPLE. WE FELT LIKE WE WANTED TO DO THE CHAIRS FOR ANOTHER YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF THE EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE CHERRY ORCHARD AND THE HISTORY OF IT.

BUT WE CONTEMPLATED DO WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? IS THERE A DIFFERENT MEDIUM THAT WE COULD HAVE PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE DOORS OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT COULD BE THAT COULD BE DISPLAYED WITH THEIR TALENT FROM AN ARTISTIC STANDPOINT. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT WE CAN BE FRESH AND TRY TO REINVENT THINGS, BUT STILL USE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE BUILT FOR ITS LIFESPAN.

DO YOU THINK YOUR PROMOTIONAL EXPENSES WILL BE LESS IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, OR WILL YOU OR WILL YOU IN FACT INCREASE THAT? I WOULD SAY IT WILL CHANGE. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EXPANDING IT TO OTHER REGIONS NOW. SO IT MAY BE SHIFTING IT IN DIFFERENT PLACES. I WOULDN'T SAY IT WOULD BE LESS. GREAT FUN, GREAT FUN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THE WHOLE THE WHOLE GANG FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. YEAH. NO, THIS I'M GOING TO JOIN THE CHORUS HERE. THIS IS A Y'ALL. Y'ALL IDENTIFIED A PROGRAM AND IT'S JUST A FABULOUS SUCCESS. I HEARD NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM FROM ANYONE IN TOWN. OUT OF TOWN.

NOTHING. NOTHING BUT PRAISE AND EXCITEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH. AND EVERYONE'S SAYING HOW MUCH YOU JUST NAILED SOMETHING THAT MATCHED DENTON. IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, I HEARD A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, JEALOUSY. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN CAN I PARTICIPATE IN 2025? AND HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN I GET INVOLVED? AND PEOPLE WANTING WANTING TO ENGAGE. SO TAKE THAT. I GUESS IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO, TO DO MORE. AND, AND JUST ANECDOTALLY, MY BROTHER IN LAW LIVES IN

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PERFECT. THEY DID THE BASKETBALL ON THE SQUARE BECAUSE WE WERE DOING IT FOR. YEAH. AND THEN THE I WILL SAY JUST ANECDOTALLY AND THEN I'LL BE QUIET TALKING TO BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR, EVEN OUTSIDE THE CORRIDOR THAT WERE WERE ALIGNED WITH SORT OF THE, THE, THE HOLIDAY THEMES OF IT. THEY SAID THAT THEY SAW BUMPS ALL THE WAY INTO JANUARY FROM JUST ELEVATED TRAFFIC AND NEW CLIENTS COMING IN. SO I, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT LASTED PAST JUST OCTOBER FOR SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES. SO GOOD. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICTS SIX THANK COUNCILPERSON JESTER AND I AM WATCHING THE CLOCK. WE'VE GOT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES LEFT SO I'LL BE QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO ALL THE PRAISE. IT TOOK A VILLAGE TO PUT THIS ON. AND THIS WAS A PILOT PROJECT. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST AMAZING. AND OBVIOUSLY THE EFFECT OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WENT IN BY SO MANY PEOPLE. I HAD SMALL BUSINESSES ON THE SQUARE AROUND THE SQUARE, REACHING OUT TO MAKE SURE I KNEW HOW GRATEFUL THEY WERE FOR THIS EVENT AND WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR THEM. I ALSO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM LINE, AND WHAT IS IT COSTING OUR TAXPAYERS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE GETTING BACK. SO I APPRECIATE THE HOLISTIC VIEWS. I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO HOW DID YOU COMMUNICATE WITH THE AREA BUSINESSES? AND SECONDLY, WE MIGHT CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE A BUSINESS TOOLKIT. AS SOMEONE THAT HAS A BUSINESS CLOSE TO THE SQUARE ABOUT RESOURCES. IF YOU WANT TO DECORATE, HERE ARE SOME IDEAS. SO HERE ARE SOME UNIQUE ONLINE FOR BIGGER BUILDING DECORATIONS. OR IF YOU WANT A GROUP TO VOLUNTEER TOGETHER, SIMILAR TO ARTS AND JAZZ, YOU KNOW HERE'S WHERE IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THREE HOURS, THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL GET IN RETURN. YOU GET TO PARK HERE AND YOU GET TO DO THIS. AND THEN KEEPING IT UNIQUE EVERY YEAR I THINK IS GREAT. SO IT'S ALL GREAT CELEBRATION.

THANK YOU. AND THEN IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO MAYBE HOW TO REACH OUT TO MORE BUSINESSES AND HOW WE GOT IT ALL TOGETHER. WELL, DEFINITELY LEAN ON OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND OUR MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD AND GET THE WORD OUT THERE. OBVIOUSLY, WITH MARKETING EFFORTS, WHEN WE KIND OF RELAUNCH EVERYTHING THIS SUMMER TO WORK WITH THEM, WE'VE HAD CONSTANT FEEDBACK FROM VARIOUS BUSINESSES REACHING OUT, SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO BE INVOLVED. WE TRY TO MEET QUARTERLY. WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING IN EARLY MARCH, WHERE WE BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND SAY, KIND OF, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, HERE'S NEXT STEPS, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU. AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF GROWN OVER THE PAST YEAR. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED AS WE CAN, BECAUSE THE MORE THEY'RE INVOLVED, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL IT CAN BE, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE THE CITY CANNOT DO IT. WE'RE TRYING TO FACILITATE THIS PROCESS, TO MAKE IT WHAT IT CAN BE TO GET MORE PEOPLE HERE. AND FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T A MEMBER ALREADY OF THE MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION, THEY CAN JOIN. OR YOU MIGHT ALSO PUSH IT OUT THROUGH THE CHAMBER AND OTHER BUSINESS TO BUSINESS MARKETING. YES, STAFF. AUDUBON. ARIANA DID GO TO THE CHAMBER MIXERS AND TALK TO THOSE EARLIER ON LAST SUMMER TO GET THEM INVOLVED. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS PART OF THE OUTREACH. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU AGAIN REPRESENTING SO MANY PEOPLE. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS BACK AND MAKING IT HAPPEN IN SUCH A WONDERFUL WAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE SEEING NONE. ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH. SORRY. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING. WE DIDN'T SAY IT AT THE BEGINNING, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS IN HERE. GARY DOESN'T WANT THE SPOTLIGHT, BUT HE LED THE TEAM. DUSTIN AND PARKS AND RECREATION, SO MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB MAKING THIS EVENT HAPPEN. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. YEAH. NO, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS JUST I ENJOYED AND I THINK THERE'S SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO BE DONE OR CONTINUING THAT THE PHASING. RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT SORT OF THING. SO ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE DRIVING AND THERE'S TENTACLES COMING OUT OF THE CITY HALL WEST, AND THEN YOU'RE DRIVING AND IT'S LIKE, OH, THERE'S LIGHTS AT THE OTHER CITY HALL. AND SO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, I THINK THAT PHASING IS A REALLY NEAT THING, BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING, DRIVING AROUND, TRYING TO FIND WHERE THE NEXT THING IS OR WHAT ELSE HAS BEEN ROLLED OUT THUS FAR. AND THEN ANYTHING WE CAN DO. DAY OF

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[B. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the Downtown Denton Ambassador Pilot Program. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

THERE. PROGRAM. PILOT PROGRAM. THERE WE GO. AFTERNOON. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COURTNEY WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE FIRST YEAR OF THE DOWNTOWN DENTON AMBASSADOR PILOT PROGRAM. WE DO HAVE GUESTS FROM BLOCK BY BLOCK, THE VENDOR FOR THE PROGRAM HERE WITH US TODAY. AS A REMINDER, THIS PROGRAM FALLS WITHIN COUNCIL'S KEY FOCUS AREA TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. THE PILOT IS PART OF A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO DEVELOP SOLUTIONS FOR A CLEANER, SAFER AND MORE VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. ADDITIONALLY, COUNCIL TASKED STAFF WITH IDENTIFYING A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE PROGRAM FOLLOWING THE PILOT PENDING COUNCIL DIRECTION TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION TODAY WILL MEASURE PROGRESS TOWARDS THESE GOALS. IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM OUTPUTS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AND AS A BRIEF TIMELINE REMINDER, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO PURSUE A TWO YEAR PILOT PROGRAM IN JULY OF 2023 AND THE PROGRAM LAUNCHED IN LATE JANUARY 2024. AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A TWO YEAR PILOT WITH AN ANNUAL COST OF APPROXIMATELY $703,000, FUNDED THROUGH THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, THE CITY CONTRACTS WITH BLOCK BY BLOCK AND EXTERNAL VENDOR TO PROVIDE SERVICES DOWNTOWN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. DOWNTOWN AMBASSADORS ARE ASSIGNED TO ONE OF TWO TEAMS, THE CLEAN TEAM AND THE SAFETY TEAM, WITH RELEVANT TASKS ASSIGNED TO EACH OF THEM.

AMBASSADORS ARE PROVIDED REGULAR TRAININGS RELEVANT TO THEIR ROLE, AND WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS TO OFFICIALLY ADDRESS ISSUES AS THEY ARISE. STAFF HAVE WORKED WITH BLOCK BY BLOCK THROUGHOUT THE FIRST YEAR TO ENSURE AMBASSADORS TIME AND ENERGY IS FOCUSED IN HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS, AND THEY'RE RESPONSIVE TO DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. THROUGHOUT THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, YOU'LL HEAR ME REFERENCE FEEDBACK FROM TWO DIFFERENT SURVEYS, ONE TARGETED AT DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND ONE TARGETED AT THE GENERAL COMMUNITY, AND I'LL BE MAKING NOTE OF EXCELLENT AND GOOD RATINGS RESULTING FROM THE RESPONDENTS RATING ITEMS AS 4 OR 5 OUT OF FIVE. AMBASSADORS REMOVED OVER 26,000 POUNDS OF TRASH DOWNTOWN IN 2024, AND POWER WASH SIDEWALKS 288 TIMES. THE NEED FOR GRAFFITI DECREASED IN 2024, BOTH FOR AMBASSADORS.

GRAFFITI ABATEMENT EXCUSE ME, BOTH FOR AMBASSADORS AND FOR CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF.

BUSINESSES REPORTED INCREASED SATISFACTION WITH THE LEVEL OF CLEANLINESS DOWNTOWN DURING THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PILOT, NOTING CLEANER SIDE STREETS AND TRASH BINS DOWNTOWN NO LONGER OVERFLOWING. WHEN ASKED WHICH ASPECTS OF THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM THEY FOUND TO BE MOST BENEFICIAL, 60% OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES NOTED ENHANCED CLEANLINESS AND MAINTENANCE. AS WE KNOW, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN VISITORS VISITOR TRAFFIC DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER FOR HALLOWEEN, BRINGING WITH IT AN INCREASED NEED FOR CLEANING SERVICES. THE AMBASSADORS WERE ABLE TO QUICKLY RESPOND TO STAFF AND PARTNER REQUESTS TO POWER WASH SIDEWALKS IN PREPARATION FOR A LOCAL NEWS SEGMENT PROMOTING A DAY OF THE DEAD FESTIVITIES. SAFETY TEAM AMBASSADORS PERFORM TASKS THAT PROMOTE SAFETY AND HOSPITALITY DOWNTOWN, AS INDICATED ON THE SLIDE, AMBASSADORS ARE TRAINED REGULARLY IN DE-ESCALATION AND HOW TO BUILD RAPPORT WITH THE UNHOUSED POPULATION AND EDUCATED ON LOCAL SERVICES SO THEY CAN MAKE REFERRALS TO HOMELESS SERVICES. THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TO RESPOND TO NON-EMERGENCY SITUATIONS THAT DON'T REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERVENTION, AND AMBASSADORS REGULARLY FOLLOW UP WITH BUSINESSES AND THE DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AFTER SITUATIONS THAT DO REQUIRE POLICE INTERVENTION TO HELP EDUCATE BUSINESSES ON BUSINESS OWNERS ON PROCESSES AND HELP MITIGATE FUTURE ESCALATIONS. OVERALL SAFETY RATINGS OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES HAVE REMAINED CONSISTENTLY HIGH THROUGHOUT THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, AND APPROXIMATELY THREE OUT OF FOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS SURVEYED ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM FEEL A STRONG SENSE OF SAFETY DOWNTOWN. JUST AS A NOTE, BLOCK BY BLOCK ALSO COLLECTS ANY CLOTHING LEFT DOWNTOWN THAT'S IN GOOD CONDITION AND DELIVERS IT TO OUR DAILY BREAD MONTHLY SO ITEMS CAN BE WASHED AND REDISTRIBUTED TO INDIVIDUALS STAYING IN SHELTER. I JUST HAVE A FEW BRIEF EXAMPLES OF HOW THE AMBASSADORS PROMOTE SAFETY DOWNTOWN TO SHARE WITH YOU. IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, A PROTESTER WAS VENTURING INTO TRAFFIC AND WAS ALMOST STRUCK BY A MOTORIST, AND AN AMBASSADOR WAS ABLE TO STEP IN AND DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION AND PREVENT AN ACCIDENT FROM OCCURRING AS A RESULT.

ADDITIONALLY, RECENTLY, AMBASSADORS NOTICED A RECYCLED BOOKS EMPLOYEE HAD A FLAT TIRE AS THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO GET IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVE OFF AFTER THEIR SHIFT. WHEN THE AMBASSADORS OFFERED TO CHANGE OUT THEIR TIRE AND PUT ON THEIR SPARE, THE INDIVIDUAL THEN SAID

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THEY'RE IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN STAY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND HELP DIRECT VISITORS BASED ON THEIR NEEDS. AND THE MAJORITY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS SURVEYED ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM RATED HOSPITALITY DOWNTOWN HIGHLY. STAFF HAVE INITIATED CONVERSATIONS WITH DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS TO GAUGE INTEREST IN ESTABLISHING A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO POTENTIALLY FUND THE PROGRAM. MOVING FORWARD, STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGH THE SPRING AND PROVIDE UPDATES BACK TO COUNCIL THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS. IF FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TO DISCONTINUE AT THE END OF THE PILOT. AND YEAH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. AND I'LL I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ANY QUESTIONS. YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. WELL I HAVE A STATEMENT FIRST THEN A QUESTION OKAY. MY STATEMENT IS THAT I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I AM ALWAYS PLEASED TO SEE THE AMBASSADORS WHEN I'M TOOLING AROUND, AND I WILL LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE ALWAYS SO PLEASANT. AND I KNOW THAT THIS HAS GOT TO BE A DIFFICULT JOB. IT'S PROBABLY A HIGHLY DIFFICULT JOB, BUT YOU IT'S KIND OF LIKE BEING A TEACHER. YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF BE BORN TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT WHAT'S GIVEN TO YOU LIKE THAT. PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT NICE, THAT'S ALL VOMIT, PUKE, ALL THAT STUFF GOING ON. BUT IT'S JUST A SENSE OF CALMING THAT THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THEIR ATTRITION RATE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. HOW DOES THAT WORKING FOR THEM? IS THIS A PLACE I'D LIKE TO ASK THEM, ARE THEY PLEASED TO BE HERE AND GET A STATEMENT FROM THEM IF I CAN? I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT DENTON? HOW IS IT GOING TO HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT IT? OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CONTRACTOR ARE IT'S GOING WELL. AND SO THEY CONTRACT WITH VARIOUS OTHER CITIES. SO WE HAVE THEM ON A CONTRACTED TERM. SO IT WOULD END AT THE END OF THE SERVICE IF WE'RE UNABLE TO FIND A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCE. AND THAT IS JUST THE PRIMARY CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. THAT'S THE QUESTION. THAT'S THE ASK. SO WHEN WE BROUGHT THE PILOT PROGRAM FORWARD TWO YEARS AGO, THE DISCUSSION WAS THIS IS A GOOD PILOT PROGRAM. BUT ONE OF THE GOALS, AS COURTNEY MENTIONED, WAS TO FIND A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCE. SEVERAL OF THE CITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT AND RESEARCHED ALL HAVE SOME TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FUNDING, FUNDING THESE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST BEEN INITIAL EARLY CONVERSATIONS. WE PUT SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK TO THE COUNCIL THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THIS MORNING, AND WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED AS THAT PROGRESSES. BUT RIGHT NOW OUR SUSTAINABLE FUNDING SOURCE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR DOWNTOWN. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE THE AMBASSADORS DOWNTOWN.

AND I ROLL MY WINDOW DOWN AND I WENT GO AMBASSADORS. I LITERALLY DO I'M SURE THEY I'M SURE THEY THINK THAT'S BIZARRE, BUT BUT LOTS OF WELL, IT'S NOT LIMITED TO THAT, BY THE WAY, I'M WONDERING WHAT COMPARE IF YOU CAN APPLES TO APPLES WHAT THE AMBASSADORS DO THAT THE CITY WOULD DO OTHERWISE I PICKING UP LITTER POWER WASHING STREETS. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE SAFETY ESCORTS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE SPARE TIRES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO LIKE I SAY, AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, PLEASE. SO IF THE PILOT PROGRAM ENDS, WE TALKED ABOUT WE PROVIDED A RESPONSE THAT SERVICE LEVELS DO GO BACK TO WHAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WERE DEFINITELY NOT AS HIGH AS THEY ARE NOW. SO POWER WASHING WAS JUST PERIODICALLY. TRASH COLLECTION WAS 2 OR 3 DAYS A WEEK, AND THEN REFERRALS FOR SERVICES WOULD JUST FALL TO OUR CITYWIDE OUTREACH TEAM. SO WE ARE RECEIVING THROUGH THE PILOT PROGRAM AN ENHANCED SERVICE LEVEL. AND THEN ANY OF THE ESCORTS, THE SAFETY ESCORTS OR THE GREETINGS OR THE WAYFINDING WOULD NO LONGER TAKE PLACE. THAT WOULD CONTINUE. OKAY. AND I GET THAT. CAN YOU EXPRESS THAT IN A DOLLARS AND CENTS WAY? AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THAT TODAY. WE CAN FOLLOW UP. I CAN

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BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING HERE ARE ALL THESE GOOD THINGS THAT IT'S DOING. BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A SEPARATE SOURCE OF FUNDING, WE WOULDN'T DO IT. I'M WONDERING TWO THINGS AS POSSIBILITIES. ONE IS, IS IT DO WE KNOW ENOUGH NOW TO KNOW WHETHER THERE MIGHT BE A SCALED DOWN VERSION, LIKE, IS IT ALL OF IT, AS YOU KNOW, OR LIKE, DO WE NEED PEOPLE FROM 7 A.M. TO 11 P.M, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE THOUGHT. I'LL LET YOU RESPOND TO THAT. AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER THOUGHT. I THINK THERE ARE TONS OF OPTIONS FOR THAT WHEN TALKING THROUGH THE REVENUE POTENTIAL REVENUE, REVENUE GENERATION FOR THE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THERE'S VARIOUS LEVELS. AND SO WHAT WHAT ARE THEY INTERESTED IN THAT PROGRAM. SO THERE CERTAINLY IS A CONVERSATION TO MAYBE SCALE DOWN TO A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. SO AND THEN YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION IS I'M JUST TRYING TO LIKE WAY, YOU KNOW, GET A BETTER BALANCE OF THE PLUSES AND THE MINUSES. I REMEMBER I REMEMBER WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I HEARD INTEREST FROM THE FRY STREET BUSINESS OWNERS AND HAVING SOME OF THAT TOO. SO I WONDER IF THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT FUNDING. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S TWO DIFFERENT PIDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, COULD THAT MAYBE WITH A LESSER. TAX, IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, COULD STILL MAYBE GENERATE A DECENT AMOUNT OF, OF REVENUE AND BE ABLE TO SPREAD THOSE RESOURCES OUT. IT'S JUST YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO RESPOND. JUST A THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME UPSIDE, THE FACT THAT THEY WANT IT MAYBE PROVIDE SOME UPSIDE POTENTIAL. WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN A BOUNDARY AND WHERE THEY COULD START AND STOP, AND IF THEY COULD SHARE PROGRAMING. I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL JUST SAY I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE. AND WOULD THE NEXT STEP BE TO GO TALK TO DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES OR THE BUSINESSES IN THAT FOOTPRINT AND GET GET FEEDBACK ON SUPPORT? THAT'S WHAT STAFF HAS ALREADY STARTED, THAT THEY HAD AN INITIAL CONVERSATION IN JANUARY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BUSINESSES. I THINK THE PROPERTY OWNERS DID A GOOD JOB OF ASKING THE BUSINESSES WHAT THEY THOUGHT TOO, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IF THE RATE IS ASSESSED, IT'S TYPICALLY GOING TO BE PASSED ON TO WHO'S RENTING IT. SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE ALREADY INITIALLY TAKEN PLACE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND REPORT BACK HOW THEY'RE FEELING. THE INITIAL INTEREST FROM THE GROUP DID SHOW. YEAH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN SOME TYPE OF A DISTRICT. WE JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT IT TO COMPLETELY TO SOLELY FUND THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. THEY MAY BE INTERESTED IN FUNDING OTHER OTHER PROJECTS IN THE DOWNTOWN. OKAY. YEAH. AND I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE FORWARD LOOKING THAT ONCE WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION DURING THOSE MEETINGS, WE ARE DOCUMENTING HERE'S STATUS. THIS IS WHAT WE WERE. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROGRAM. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY ON THE SERVICE LEVELS. RIGHT. JUST SO THAT WE DON'T GET THE I THOUGHT I WAS STILL GOING TO OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE FEEDBACK AS CLEAR. RIGHT. IF WE SAY, HEY, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST, THIS IS THE DELTA, THEN PEOPLE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION, GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK ON WHATEVER THEIR PREFERENCE IS, AND WE CAN WE CAN GO FROM THERE. BUT I JUST WOULD HATE FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE I DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, TYPE APPROACH. I MEAN, BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT AND IT'S, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING THE BODILY FLUIDS THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, RIGHT? THAT'S ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY VERSUS DEPENDING ON THE TIMING, IF IT'S YOUR BUSIEST DAY AND LIFE HAPPENS, WE YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL. AND THAT'S OKAY. JUST EYES WIDE OPEN. RIGHT. LIKE JUST HEY THAT THAT'S A THAT'S A YOU KNOW WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. RIGHT. AND SO NO THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK THEY CAN INCORPORATE INTO THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE SERVICE LEVELS. WOULD RETURN TO IF THE PILOT PROGRAM ENDS.

RIGHT. BECAUSE I'LL SAY THERE'S OTHER AREAS OF THE TOWN I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THEM OR DO

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[1. Closed Meeting:]

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025. IT IS 6:30 P.M. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA ARE PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. OKAY. WE WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT AT A CONCERNS FOR THE WEATHER. THE TEENS ARE NOT HERE. WE'LL RESCHEDULE THAT. AND TO THAT END, WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE PRESENTERS COUNCIL, ETC, BE AS CURT AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE HOME SAFELY BEFORE THE WEATHER CONTINUES TO DROP. JUST STEPPED OUT. THERE'S FROZEN RAIN ON THE WINDSHIELDS. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO REALLY WANT TO TRY TO BE MINDFUL AND GET EVERYONE HOME SAFE. SO PLEASE ADJUST YOUR

[3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

PARDON ME. MY NAME IS TRACY DUCKWORTH. EVERYBODY KNOWS ME AS MAMA T O. O. I REALIZED NOW WHAT I'M DEALING WITH. Y'ALL DON'T CARE. LIKE AT ALL. I DID SIX SPEECHES BEFORE Y'ALL, AND YOU DIDN'T CARE, SO I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME. JUST, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL THOUGHT I'D JUST SHUT UP AND GO AWAY EVENTUALLY, I GUESS. AND THEN THE COMMUNITY GOT BEHIND ME. AND YOU STILL DIDN'T CARE.

AND SO IT JUST. IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S JUST ME NOW. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. MY PEOPLE ARE DYING. I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A FIVE YEAR PLAN. I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR COLLECTING DATA. WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT. MY PEOPLE ARE DYING, LIKE RIGHT NOW.

IMMEDIATELY. LAST WEEK, TODAY, TOMORROW, AND THE NEXT DAY. IT'S COLD OUT THERE. RIGHT NOW IT'S FREEZING. ALL THAT STUFF. YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT GETTING EVERYBODY HOME. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT GEORGE BERRY HAS A HAS A PLAN. BUT. BUT UNLESS IT'S LIKE RIGHT NOW IN FIXING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW, THAT'S NOT SOON ENOUGH AT ALL. PEOPLE ARE DYING

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[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

LOOK. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO

[K. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton providing for the abandonment, relinquishment, and quitclaim of a public utility easement approximately a total of 0.0597-acres, situated in the W. Neil Survey, Abstract Number 971, recorded by County Clerk document number 2000-44331, Plat Records, Denton County, Texas granted to the City of Denton by Denton Area Teachers Credit Union; providing for the quitclaim thereof to CDI Cedar, LLC, a Texas limited liability company; providing for the terms and conditions of the abandonment and quitclaim made herein; providing for the conveyance of a new easement to the City of Denton and the relocation of existing facilities; providing for the indemnification of the City of Denton against damages arising out of the abandonment herein; providing for consideration to be paid to the City of Denton; providing for a future effective date for the abandonment, relinquishment and quitclaim made herein; providing for the payment of the publication fee; providing for severability and an effective date. (Renegade Development, Utility Easement abandonment request)]

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. SO WHEN WE HAVE UTILITIES BUILT, THAT'S GENERALLY AT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PUT IN THE LINES TO SERVICE THEIR UTILITY REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE IS OR IS NOT AN AN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. AND HOW COMMON IS IT FOR US TO GET CONVEYED? VARIOUS KINDS OF EASEMENTS AND RIGHTS OF WAY. WELL, WHEN WE HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT COME IN, WE AND IT REQUIRES PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FACILITIES ARE PROTECTED. AND ONE WAY OF DOING THAT IS HAVING AN EASEMENT FOR THAT PROTECTS IT, RESTRICTS IT FROM ANY BUILDINGS BEING PLACED UPON IT OR ANY KIND OF DAMAGES TO IT. AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, OKAY. SO AND IT'S IN USE RIGHT NOW. YES, SIR. IT SERVES ONE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. AND WITH THE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW, THAT LINE IS BEING REROUTED AND IT WILL HAVE CONTINUOUS SERVICE TO IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE I'LL MOVE APPROVAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. I'LL SECOND. THAT MOTION IS A MOTION. AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT

[L. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton providing for the abandonment, relinquishment, and quitclaim of a portion of a public drainage easement being approximately a total of 0.281-acres, situated in the J. Fisher Survey, Abstract Number 421, recorded by County Clerk document number 2014-103670, Real Property Records, Denton County, Texas granted to the City of Denton by Denton West Joint Venture; providing for the Quitclaim thereof to Grindstone Denton LLC, a Texas limited liability company; providing for the terms and conditions of the abandonment, relinquishment, and quitclaim made herein; providing for the conveyance of a easement and/or facilities to the City of Denton; providing for the indemnification of the City of Denton against damages arising out of the abandonment herein; providing for consideration to be paid to the City of Denton; providing for severability and an effective date. (Dutch Bros, Teasley Development, Drainage Easement abandonment request)]

AGAIN, MARK LEHRER, SENIOR REAL ESTATE SPECIALIST DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AS MENTIONED IN YOUR BACKUP STAFF, HAS RECEIVED A REQUEST TO ABANDON A PORTION OF AN EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT COVERS THE PROPERTY AND RESTRICTS IT FROM BEING DEVELOPED. THE ORIGINAL EASEMENT WAS 11 ACRES IN SIZE AND WAS CONVEYED TO THE CITY OF DENTON IN 2014 AT NO COST. THE EASEMENT WAS TEMPORARY IN NATURE UNTIL THE SURROUNDING AREA DEVELOPED. THIS EASEMENT WAS TAILORED FOR THE OWNER TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE EASEMENT, AND ALLOW THE CITY TO INVESTIGATE AND PERFORM MAINTENANCE SHOULD THAT OWNER FAIL TO DO THAT, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO MAINTAIN IT, BUT NOT THE OBLIGATION. AND YEAR 2022 OVER 500,000 WAS INVESTED INTO THE DRAINAGE AREA THAT RENDERED PARTS OF THIS DRAINAGE EASEMENT UNNECESSARY. THIS IS ALSO WHEN 7.3 ACRES OF THAT EASEMENT WAS ABANDONED BY COUNCIL IN 2022. BY ORDINANCE 2022, 1865, THE

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MAINTAIN THE EASEMENT. THE CITY HAS NO PUBLIC DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN IT AND HAS NO FUTURE PLANS FOR PUBLIC DRAINAGE PROPERTY PROJECT OF IT, AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT. THREE. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER, THE OWNER THAT WE ACQUIRED IT FROM AT NO COST TO THE CITY, IS THAT THE SAME OWNER THAT CURRENTLY OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD ABANDON IT TO? DUTCH BROS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM THAT OWNER, I BELIEVE. AND WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THAT OF THAT PROPERTY AT THIS TIME? I KNOW IT'S IN THE BACKUP, BUT JUST THE VALUE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS 126,000.

AND OKAY, SO YOU WANT TO JUST AND IT HAS THAT'S A MARKET VALUE THAT'S HAVE THAT VALUE TO THE PEOPLE YOU CONVEY TO OKAY YOU'VE SAID IT. THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS A GENERAL QUESTION ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM. AND THIS ONE. HOW CAN YOU EVALUATE THAT. YOU WON'T HAVE ANY FUTURE USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR EASEMENT? WELL, WE HAVE A CIP PROJECT SCHEDULE FOR CITY PROJECTS. AND THAT'S WHAT PLANS ARE BUDGETED FOR. AND IF NOTHING IS IDENTIFIED FOR THE AREA, THEN WE SUBMIT THAT THROUGH STAFF AND STAFF GETS THOSE ISSUES. SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'VE BECAUSE OF THE CIP, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ELSEWHERE. SO YOU THAT'S HOW YOU DEFINITELY ARE SURE THAT YOU WON'T NEED THESE PARTICULAR EASEMENTS. WE HAVE A MAP AND GENERAL LOCATION OF THOSE PROJECTS. AND IF THOSE PROJECTS AREN'T APPLICABLE TO THIS AREA, THEN WE'LL STAFF TAKES A DEEP LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT IS NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT. BUT IT'S IN THIS CASE IT'S NOT.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FROM DISTRICT TWO, IN THE RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL IS INDICATED THAT THE DRAINAGE TO THE NORTH DRAINS TO THE WEST SOMEHOW. COULD YOU INDICATE ON THE MAP WHERE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THE BLUE AREA IS? HOW WHERE DOES THAT DRAINAGE GO IN THIS OVERALL DRAINAGE SYSTEM? OKAY. THE SITE, IF YOU LOOK AT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT STORMWATER FROM THE SITE, DRAINS TO APPROXIMATELY THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE AREA IN RED OF THE ABANDONMENT TRACK, AND THAT AREA SHEET FLOWS INTO AN EXISTING DRAINAGE CHANNEL WITHIN THAT BLUE AREA, WHICH WAS IS WITHIN AN EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENT. SO THE DRAINAGE IS GOING TO REMAIN IN THE BLUE TRACK. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THIS TO SPEAK AGAIN? YES. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION. JUST UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT I SAY. YOU KNOW, AT A TIME WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN AFFORD WORK SESSIONS THAT ARE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL, I DON'T SEE THAT WHEN THESE PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT ASSUMING THEY HAD THIS AND IT HAS MARKET VALUE, I DON'T SEE THE BASIS FOR GIFTING IT. SO MY INTENTION IS TO VOTE NO. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I MOVE APPROVAL REPRESENTING FROM DISTRICT SIX.

I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES FOUR THREE TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM WHICH IS

[M. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton (“City”), a Texas Home Rule Municipal Corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute an Interlocal Agreement with the Town of Little Elm (“Little Elm”) concerning delivery of specified tonnage to the City’s Landfill by Little Elm at a discount disposal rate (“Interlocal Agreement”); and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (6-0).]

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MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BRIAN SOLID WASTE DIRECTOR WITH THE CITY OF DENTON. BEFORE YOU TODAY, WE HAVE TWO INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR WASTE HAULER AGREEMENTS WITH WISE COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF LITTLE ELM. WHAT IS A WASTE HAULER AGREEMENT? REAL QUICK THERE WE CALL IN THE INDUSTRY PUT OR PAY CONTRACTS. A HAULER GUARANTEES THE DELIVERY OF CERTAIN VOLUME, TONNAGE AND TERM IN RETURN FOR A CONTRACTED PRICE, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH MATERIAL IS DELIVERED TO THE LANDFILL. THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND TO ITS RESIDENTS IS, FIRST OF ALL, WE GUARANTEE A REVENUE STREAM WHICH STABILIZES OUR RATES FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND REALLY, IT IT IT AIDS US IN LONG TERM PLANNING FOR LANDFILL OPERATIONS, STAFFING, EQUIPMENT AND GROWTH. WITHIN OUR PERMIT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE REQUIRED MINIMUM LEVELS OF STAFF AND EQUIPMENT, AND WE HAVE TO REACH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TONNAGE TO COVER THAT, TO MAINTAIN THE COST THAT THAT WE HAVE UNDER THESE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH LITTLE ELM, THEY WE'RE PROPOSING TO BRING IN 1900 TONS, CHARGING $38 A TON WITH WISE COUNTY, 4000 4000 TONS A YEAR, AGAIN, $38 A TON FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT PRICE OF $222,200. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE BENEFIT TO THE LANDFILL. ARE WE ARE WE GAINING? ARE WE LOSING MONEY? ARE THE RESIDENTS LOSING MONEY? ARE THEY GAINING MONEY? IF YOU COMPARE IT TO THE GATE RATE, THERE IS ABOUT A $60,000 DEFICIT. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLESALE RATE, WHICH WHICH IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT REQUIRED FOR US TO MEET COST, WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING APPROXIMATELY $11,800 A MONTH. SO THE NET BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS IS, FIRST OF ALL, ALMOST $12,000, EXCUSE ME, $12,000 A YEAR. AND IT HELPS US SECURE THOSE RATES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A REVENUE SHORTFALL AT THE LANDFILL. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD APPROVE. I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVING BOTH THE ID 25 253 AND 254 AS WE GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE, MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER, CAN YOU REMIND ME, BRIAN, WHEN DID WE WHEN DID WE APPROVE THE CURRENT RATES? IT WASN'T LONG AGO. WAS IT THE. WE DID HAVE A RATE ADJUSTMENT IN IN THIS YEAR.

HOWEVER, BOTH LITTLE ELM AND WISE COUNTY HAVE HAD THESE CONTRACTS WITH US FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. ARE THE CONTRACT RATES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED DIFFERENT THAN THE CONTRACT RATES THAN THEY CURRENTLY HAVE NOW? THE CONTRACT RATES ARE ACTUALLY MORE. THEY'RE $1 MORE THAN WHAT THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST. SO YOU'RE INCREASING THEM FROM WHERE THEY WERE. BUT WHAT WOULD THEY DO? I MEAN, YOU PRESENTED A KIND OF A ANALYSIS VERSUS. YOU KNOW, VERSUS OUR COST JUST ON THE MARGIN. CORRECT. BUT THEN ALSO VERSUS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RATE, CARD RATE, AND THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATE ONE TO APPLY WOULD BE IF YOU KNEW WHAT THEY WOULD DO OTHERWISE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THESE CONTRACT RATES, IS THERE SOME OTHER PLACE THAT THEY'D BE TAKING THEIR TRASH THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE ELM CURRENTLY HAS A CONTRACT WITH A THIRD HARLEY, THIRD PARTY PROVIDER TO DO THEIR CURBSIDE. THEY HAVE BULK COLLECTION AND WE WOULD PROBABLY GET THAT WASTE ANYWAY, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THEM OR WHETHER THEY HAUL THIS DIRECTLY. THIS IS COMING FROM A CITIZEN CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT THEY HAVE. SO WE WOULD GET THAT WASTE ANY WAY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE HAD THE CONTRACT OR NOT. WITH WISE COUNTY, THAT'S A QUESTION. AND THAT WOULD BE THEIR DECISION ON WHERE THAT WASTE WOULD GO. IT COULD COME TO US, IT COULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. I MEAN, ARE THERE SERIOUS ALTERNATIVE PLACES WHERE IT MIGHT GO? NOT SIGNIFICANT. NO. OKAY. THEN I, I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD BE DISCOUNTING, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN FIND THE MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, FUND COUNCIL DIRECTED WORK SESSIONS. I DON'T SEE WHY WE'D BE DISCOUNTING OFF OUR RECENTLY APPROVED RATES.

THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THE TRASH TO US ANYWAY. THAT'S. I INTEND TO VOTE NO REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN, GO. LET'S GO BACK TO OUR RATES. YES. HOW MUCH DID WE ROUGHLY PERCENTAGE WISE? HOW MUCH DID WE INCREASE OUR RATES FOR CITY OF DENTON RESIDENTS TO GO TO THE LANDFILL? ROUGHLY 1.5%. BUT AGAIN, REMEMBER THAT THAT CITY OF DENTON RESIDENTS HAVE A VERY RICH PROGRAM. ALL THEIR BULK IS COLLECTED CURBSIDE AND INCLUDED IN THEIR MONTHLY FEE. SO THE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTS COMING TO THE LANDFILL IS THAT'S ANYTHING EXCESS OVER WHAT WE WOULD COLLECT CURBSIDE OR ANYTHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THEIR NEXT COLLECTION DAY. SO WE CURRENTLY INCLUDE BULK COLLECTION IN OUR RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE PROGRAM. SO ROUGHLY 1.5% CORRECT? CORRECT. CONTRACT TO CONTRACT BOTH CITY OF LITTLE ELM AND WISE COUNTY.

HOW MUCH ARE WE INCREASING THEIR RATES PERCENTAGE WISE? I DON'T HAVE THAT PERCENTAGE RATE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. CAN YOU GUESS ISH? YEAH. I'M NOT ASKING FOR EXACT. OF COURSE I HEAR YOU SAYING A DOLLAR. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN PERCENTAGE WISE? IF YOU CAN. WELL, IT'S A DOLLAR OFF,

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[N. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton (“City”), a Texas Home Rule Municipal Corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute an Interlocal Agreement with Wise County concerning delivery of specified tonnage to the City’s Landfill by Wise County at a discount disposal rate (“Interlocal Agreement”); and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (6-0).]

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a request for a Master Planned Community Major Amendment to amend a portion of the Cole Ranch Master Planned Community Development Plan Map from Light Industrial (LI) and Residential 7 (R7) Base Zoning Districts to Mixed-Use Neighborhood (MN), Mixed-Use Regional (MR), Residential 4 (R4), and Residential 6 (R6) Base Zoning Districts. The approximately 3,169.4 acre site is generally located west of I-35W, south of Tom Cole Road, bounded by Tom Cole Road to the north, bisected by FM 2449 near the center of the property, and bounded on the eastern side by John Paine Road south of FM 2449 and Underwood Road north of FM 2449, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the Cole Ranch Master Planned Community Development Plan Map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [4-0] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval was made by Commissioner Villarreal and seconded by Commissioner Riggs. (AMPC24-0001c, Cole Ranch, Angie Manglaris)]

IT'S THE LANDMARK MPC TO THE WEST, NORTH AND NORTHWEST. THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES BOTH WITHIN THE CITY AND IN ITS ETJ, AND TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST ARE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THE SITE TODAY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. IT DOES CONSIST OF SOME FARM AND RANCH RELATED STRUCTURES. THERE ARE ACTIVE GAS WELL PADS, AS WELL AS MATURE TREES, AND CONFIRMED AND POTENTIAL AREAS OF ISA ON SITE. AGAIN, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF LAND AREA IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SEVEN BASED ZONING DISTRICTS AND REDISTRIBUTE THAT LAND AREA TO RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAPS HERE, THE PRIMARY AREA OF CHANGE IS WEST OF THE FUTURE LOOP 288 AND NORTH OF FM 2499. AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THE COLE RANCH MPC ARE NOT ALTERED. THIS WAS REVIEWED AGAINST THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL IN THE COLE RANCH MPC. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COLE RANCH MPC. THERE ARE ADEQUATE ROADWAY AND PUBLIC FACILITIES TO SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT MINIMIZES ADVERSE IMPACTS. THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS AREA AS A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, WHICH APPLIES TO LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GUIDED BY SEPARATE APPROVALS. THEY ESTABLISH THEIR OWN INTENSITIES AND CHARACTER OF DEVELOPMENT. THE TOTAL LAND AREA WITHIN THE COLE RANCH MPC IS REMAINING UNCHANGED. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DID RECOGNIZE THAT SOME AREAS ZONED MPC MAY NOT REFLECT ALL FUTURE NEEDS, AND DOES CALL FOR A PROCESS TO FACILITATE REVISIONS TO THE LAND USE WITHIN THE MPC, WHICH THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH, SPECIFICALLY BY REMOVING PORTIONS OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALONG FUTURE LOOP 288, IT PROVIDES FOR MORE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND LAND AREA FOR A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES. THE COLE RANCH MPC IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE DENTON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS GOAL ONE, WHICH IS TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN A DIVERSE HOUSING STOCK. THE COLE RANCH MPC DOES HAVE AREAS OF CONFIRMED AND POTENTIAL ESA BY FOLLOWING THE ESA REGULATIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE MPC, THE DEVELOPMENT IS ABLE TO OCCUR IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREFERRED LAND PRESERVATION PLAN. PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW AND THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE. AS OF TODAY, NO RESPONSES IN FAVOR, OPPOSITION OR NEUTRAL TO THE REQUEST HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. THE

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I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OF THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. SO IN GENERAL, IT LOOKS LIKE THE INTEREST IS LOWERING THE INTENSITY CATEGORY FROM FROM LEE TO. M AND M. AND M ARE. THAT'S HARDER TO SAY THAN YOU ALL THINK IT IS. BUT I GUESS A IS THAT TRUE? TRUE. THE MAIN REQUEST HERE IS A REDUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 317 ACRES OF LEE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY GOING TO M, N AND M ARE OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MOSTLY OVERLAPPING THE FUTURE LAYOUT OF THE 288 ROUTE. AND SO GIVEN THAT, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS TO THE INTENSITY OF USES, GIVEN THAT THE ROADWAY IS GOING TO COME THROUGH THERE, THAT THAT DICTATES THE INTENSITY OF USES? THERE'S A HIGHWAY RIGHT THERE. IT WILL I'M GOING TO FLIP TO MY MAPS REAL QUICK. IT MIGHT HELP. AS WE DISCUSS, I MEAN THE FUTURE LOOP, WHICH WILL GENERALLY RUNS ALONG ALONG THIS LINE WILL WILL ACQUIRE A FAIR AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY AS ANY STATE HIGHWAY WOULD FOR CONSTRUCTION. THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT IS ONE OF OUR MORE INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD BE PROVIDED FOR, SO THAT WILL SHIFT WHAT COULD OCCUR ALONG THE FUTURE LOOPS FROM A MORE INDUSTRIAL TYPE ZONING, OR USE LAND USE TO POSSIBLE RETAIL, COMMERCIAL. THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT ALSO DOES ALLOW FOR SOME RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. SO IT WILL IT WILL PROVIDE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER THAN WHAT THE LEE WOULD. IT WILL BE LESS INTENSIVE IN THAT THERE WON'T BE INDUSTRIAL USES AND WILL PROVIDE GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AND IN THE REGION GENERALLY. WHAT IS THE TAX AND FISCAL IMPACTS OF MR. VERSUS LEE? I THINK YOU SAID IT IN THE BACKUP I DO AND I'M GOING TO I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS MEMORIZED. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING SALES TAX FROM COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE WAS PROJECTED TO BE BETWEEN 4.56 AND 1.5 PER SQUARE FOOT, DEPENDING ON THE USE, WHEREAS INDUSTRIAL IS 0.8 $0.03 ON THE DOLLAR. SO YOU WOULD EXPECT A HIGHER SALES TAX VALUE FROM THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IF, IF WE'RE IF TXDOT OR WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF 288 TEX DOT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO IF TXDOT IS ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE 288 EXTENSION, DO THEY HAVE TO ACQUIRE IT AT THAT HIGHER VALUE IF IT'S MR. THEN IF IT'S ZONED LEE. THAT QUESTION, I DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. WELL, IF STAFF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE COULD GET BACK TO ME WITH THAT ANSWER, I WOULD. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT ANSWER. HAPPY TO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FOR STAFF, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE CAN COME DOWN AND SPEAK IF THEY IF THEY WANT TO SEE NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. HAPPILY MOVE APPROVAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. I'LL SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. SO? THAT PASSES. SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO

[B. Conduct the second of two public hearings and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton approving a strategic partnership agreement between the City of Denton and Denton County Municipal Utility District No. 16; and providing an effective date.]

GREAT. SO BUT WE DO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT THIS TIME. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CHARLIE ROSENDAHL BUSINESS SERVICES MANAGER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE DENTON MUD NUMBER 16, A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT OR A MUD IS A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT THAT IS CREATED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SERVICES TO A DEVELOPMENT. THE HISTORY WITH THIS MUD IN PARTICULAR, WE RECEIVED PETITIONS IN 2020 AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM SINCE THEN. WE'VE HAD AN INITIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ALSO DID HAVE A FIRST STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BACK IN JUNE OF 2024, MOST RECENTLY, ON JANUARY 7TH, CITY COUNCIL SAW AN AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS MUD, WHICH INCLUDED THIS STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. AS A

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IT ALLOWS FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION TO COLLECT SALES TAX IN THESE DISTRICTS, 50% OF WHICH WOULD BE REMITTED BACK TO THE MUD, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE FUTURE FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF THE DISTRICT. AFTER ALL OF THE BONDS ARE SOLD AT THE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL. AS A REMINDER, THIS ITEM WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ON JANUARY 7TH AND INCLUDED THIS AMENDED STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, AND CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE A VOTE ON ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. CHARLIE. SORRY. SAY 2052. MY BAD. SORRY, BRIAN. THANK YOU.

DID STAFF GET A CHANCE TO GET BACK TO ME ON THE RATIO OF MUD TO THE FUTURE WATER PLAN. WHAT'S THE RATIO OF MUD TO CITY IN OUR IN OUR WATER PLAN? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OVERALL IN THE RESPONSES TO THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS? YEAH. I'LL LET MEMBERS FROM OUR WATER UTILITY STAFF. I MEAN, THE ANSWER IS IT COULD BE LIKE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT YET, SO THAT WOULD BE FINE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE'D GOTTEN THERE. YEAH, I'LL LET STEPHEN SPEAK ON IT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEPHEN GAY, GENERAL MANAGER, WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR? THE QUESTION I PUT TO STAFF EARLIER IN THE QUESTIONS TO STAFF WERE WHAT WAS THE RELATIVE RATIO IN OUR IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN FOR WATER WASTEWATER. THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE NEED FROM THE MUDS VERSUS THE NEED FROM THE CITY. IT'S A ROUGHLY 10%. ROUGHLY 10%. YES, SIR. AWESOME. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU, MAYOR CHARLIE. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT WE'RE REMOVING FIRE FROM THE AGREEMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT THAT WAS COMPLETED WITH THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON JANUARY 7TH. AND REMIND ME THAT'S BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE KIND OF TAKING OVER FIRE AND NOT OFF OF US, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

YEAH. I HAVE A MOTION IF YOU'RE READY. MAYOR, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK? CAN COME DOWN AND SPEAK AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS.

SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. I MOVE APPROVAL. THANKS. REPRESENTATIVE. FROM DISTRICT TWO. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 7 TO 0.

[C. Hold a Public Hearing and consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton stating no objection to NRP Lone Star Development LLC’s 4% housing tax credit application to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs for the proposed new construction of the Roselawn Village Apartments to provide affordable rental housing; and providing an effective date.]

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THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID WAS IN SUPPORT AND THEN IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR POLICY. IT MEETS TWO OF THE CRITERIA WHERE THEY HAVE PHYSICAL DISTANCE FROM OTHER HOUSING TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY, AND THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS. WE DID DO A PUBLIC NOTICE ON THE PROPERTY ALSO, AND WE RECEIVED BACK THREE RESPONSES THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WITH WITHIN 200FT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE, MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER, I REALLY JUST WANT TO REINFORCE THE OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE MEETING. MY PERCEPTION WAS THAT PEOPLE KIND OF CAME IN LOADED FOR BEAR, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY OVER THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT, BUT JUST OVER THE FACT OF MULTIFAMILY WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM THAT. I THINK PARTLY BECAUSE IT IT IS MULTIFAMILY ABLE TO BE BUILT MULTIFAMILY BUY. RIGHT. AND THAT IT WOULDN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL OTHER THAN BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS TAX CREDIT ELEMENT. AND THAT KIND OF CHANGED THE COMPLEXION OF THE CONVERSATION. BUT ALSO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE ARE KIND OF COMING IN WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, GUNS AT THEIR SIDE, SO TO SPEAK, BY THE END, I DID A LITTLE INFORMAL POLL AND I ASKED HOW MANY ARE LEANING POSITIVE VERSUS LEANING OPPOSED? AND PEOPLE SAID, WHAT ABOUT DEFINITELY POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE ARE ONLY TWO OUT OF THE WHOLE ROOM WHO REMAINED OPPOSED. SO, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVE PRESENTATION AND LOOK FORWARD TO A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. CHRISTINE, I'VE SEEN SOME ON THE SCREEN I'VE NOT SEEN BEFORE. THE SECOND BULLET POINT, PHYSICAL DISTANCE FROM OTHER HOUSING TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENTS. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? IT'S IN OUR 2018 POLICY SO THAT WE ADOPTED AND WANTING TO SUPPORT THAT THERE IS DISTANCE SO THAT WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABILITY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. NOT CONCENTRATED IN ONE AREA. WAS THAT IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, I ASSUME THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME IN 2018, 2018? YES. AND COUNCIL APPROVED THAT. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BY RESOLUTION. YES. BY RESOLUTION. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX? COUNCILPERSON JESTER, I JUST WANT TO SAY I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THE PRESENTATION. I WAS ALSO I HAD THE SAME FEELINGS COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, AND THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE A WIN WIN AS FAR AS NEEDED. WORKFORCE HOUSING. AND IT'S SITUATED FOR SINGLES, FOR FAMILIES. THE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR STUDENTS AFTER SCHOOL, I MEAN, JUST ALL OF THE PARTNERING GOING ON WITH ALL OF THE NONPROFITS IN TOWN THAT THEY PROPOSE. I WAS JUST REALLY, REALLY IMPRESSED. AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ADDITION AND GRATEFUL FOR THE PRESENTATION AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AS WELL. AND FOR EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT TO THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, THERE'S ONE CARD.

THERE'S ONE SPEAKER. NANCY, IF YOU COULD COME DOWN, YOU'LL HAVE. THREE, FOUR MINUTES. IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS NANCY SORRELS, AND I LIVE AT 3501 ROSELAWN DRIVE, JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM THIS PROJECT. I AM ASKING THAT YOU DO OPPOSE THE TAX CREDIT. IN THEIR PRESENTATION, THEY MENTIONED THE VERANDA, WHICH IS ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT THEY HAVE ACROSS TOWN. AND IF YOU GOOGLE IT, IT WILL COME UP. ALL THE SHOOTINGS, THE VIDEOS OF PEOPLE FIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOT, THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE PARTYING

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. AND THAT TAKES US TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE CAN SPEAK. YOU JUST HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS IF YOU'LL COME DOWN.

YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. HI. YEAH. CHRISTINE BRAY, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT I MET WITH THE DEVELOPER TODAY TO JUST DISCUSS THIS PROJECT. AND ONE THING THAT I THINK YOU ALL MIGHT BE EXCITED TO HEAR IS THAT YOU ALL VOTED ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOOLKIT INCENTIVES. AND THESE ARE BEING USED WITHIN THIS PROJECT. SO THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE BEING ENABLED BY THAT. AND I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT AND BE LIKE, HEY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER OBSTACLES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO DENTON WHERE IF WE HAD CHANGED THEM, YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THESE HOMES EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE TO PEOPLE OR GOTTEN EVEN MORE HOMES ON THIS PROJECT JUST SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE PROBLEMS MIGHT LIE WITH OUR CODE. BUT YEAH, PLEASE SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU CAN COME DOWN AND SPEAK IF YOU'D LIKE. JUST HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS AFTER THE FACT.

SEEING SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. REALLY QUICK. SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT THE ANSWERS YOU PROVIDED AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT I'M TRYING TO SEE. I SEE THE ANSWERS, I THINK FOR 9%, BUT I DON'T SEE THE ANSWER FOR 4%. ON HOW MANY WERE APPLIED FOR THIS YEAR. YEAH. OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND I'M SURE IT'S IN HERE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND IT. JESSE'S LOOKING FOR BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE 9%. IT STANDS OUT, BUT I'M TRYING TO. I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE HIGHER NUMBER. I JUST CAN'T PINPOINT IT. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JESSE, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SO FOR THE 4% BY MUNICIPALITY, FOR APPLICATIONS, BECAUSE THE 4% IS A NON COMPETITIVE AND IT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE APPLICATION CYCLE, THERE IS NO KIND OF LIKE APPLICATION GROUP FOR THE 4% RIGHT NOW. THE STATE APPROVES THEM CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. OKAY. BUT DO WE WOULD THEN HAVE A NUMBER THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT. YES, SIR. I HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM THAT ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR NOT, BUT THAT THE AWARD HAS BEEN ISSUED. SO FOR, FOR DENTON THE CURRENT NUMBER IS NINE. FOR LEWISVILLE IT'S TWO JUSTIN ONE LITTLE ELM TWO FRISCO AND CARROLLTON AND LAKE DALLAS HAVE ZERO, CORINTH HAS ONE, AUBRY HAS ONE. AND PILOT POINT, THE COLONY, FLOWER MOUND, HIGHLAND VILLAGE AND SANGER HAVE ZERO.

GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON ON WHY I DON'T SUPPORT THIS. I DON'T SUPPORT IT FOR THAT REASON. LOOK AT LOOK AT THE NUMBER NINE IN THE CITY OF DENTON. THAT'S NINE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OFF OUR TAX ROLLS. AND IT'S A COMPLETE OUTLIER TO THERE ARE ANY SURROUNDING CITIES AND WHY IS THAT AND WHY IS THAT A CONCERN FOR ME IT'S A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING DENTON TAX DOLLARS AND WE'RE AND WE BECAUSE OF FAIR HOUSING, WHICH IS RIGHT AND FAIR. WE DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO TARGET THOSE DOLLARS OR THAT RENT DECREASE TO DENTON RESIDENTS WHO I SERVE. SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS SOMEONE IN FRISCO, LEWISVILLE. ET CETERA. ET CETERA THAT THOSE CITIES ARE NOT PROVIDING THAT HOUSING. AND SO THEY'RE PUSHED TO DENTON TO TAKE THAT HOUSING. AND WE CAN'T SEQUESTER THAT HOUSING FOR DENTON RESIDENTS WHO ARE PAYING THOSE TAXES. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH THESE. AND THAT OUTLIER, WHEN WE GET TO THE 9%, WHEN IT'S EVEN BIGGER OUTLIER. BUT I'M JUST SAYING DENTON IS BEING TARGETED FOR A REASON. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO THAT. JUST TO SAY IT'S BEEN TARGETED AND WE'RE CARRYING AN UNFAIR BURDEN THERE FROM A TAX PERCEPTION PERSPECTIVE. AND I, I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED WHY THAT IS. IT'S JUST A KNOWN FACT. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I CAN'T

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[D. Hold a Public Hearing and consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton supporting Palladium Fallmeadow Denton, Ltd.’s 9% housing tax credit application to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs for the proposed new construction of the Palladium Denton West Living Apartments to provide affordable rental housing; committing to provide fee reductions in an amount of $500.00; and providing an effective date.]

IT IS DEVELOPED BY PALLADIUM AND PALMETTO. IT IS 81 HOUSING UNITS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES BETWEEN 30 AND 80% AMI AND IT IS A MIX OF 39 UNITS WILL BE AT MARKET RATE. IT IS PRELIMINARILY RANKED 29TH IN THE REGION AND THEY HOSTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. AS WE MENTIONED, THEIR CURRENT ZONING DOES ALLOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY AND THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE ESTIMATED AT 201,000.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT. IT MEETS TWO TWO GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN THE POLICY. IT IS REMAINING ON THE TAX ROLL AND THE PROPERTY IS A MIX, INCLUDING MARKET RATE UNITS. WE DID DO THE NOTIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECEIVED ONE ONE OPPOSITION FROM A PROPERTY OWNER

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IT'S TWO DIFFERENT. SO THIS IS THE FEDERALLY FUNDED TAX CREDIT. SO THEY GET AN ANNUAL AMOUNT FOR TEN YEARS. IF THEY ARE APPROVED. IT'S JUST A CREDIT. YEAH. ANNUAL AMOUNT JUST DOLLARS TO THEM OKAY. AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT YES. FOR THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE THAT PARTNERED HAVE THAT ANNUAL EXEMPTION ON THE PROPERTY TAXES. SO THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE OKAY.

SO IN THIS CASE CITY OF DENTON CONTINUES TO GET TAXES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WITH IT REMAINING ON THE TAX ROLL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LAYING THAT OUT I APOLOGIZE I UNDERSTAND THE LAST TIME. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE ONE CARD. DEB YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN IN, AND I HOPE THAT YOU. HI. MY NAME IS DEB ARMENTOR, AND I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE YES TO THIS RESOLUTION TO ALLOW THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY TO APPLY FOR THE 9% FEDERAL TAX CREDIT, AS IS THEIR RIGHT AS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDER.

YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT HOW UNPRECEDENTED IN DENTON AND HOW SORELY NEEDED THESE APARTMENTS ARE. HOW MUCH WE NEED THIS KIND OF MIXED USE HOUSING WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES ON SITE.

SORRY, NOT MIXED USE, MIXED INCOME SO THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE NOT SEGREGATED FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS REALLY WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT. DESEGREGATION AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THESE APARTMENTS ARE SPONSORED NOT BY SOME UNKNOWN CORPORATION. NOT THAT THERE WOULD BE A PROBLEM, BUT THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE SPONSORED BY OUR VERY OWN DENTON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER LOCAL PARTNERS. AND YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT YOUR OWN AFFORDABLE HOUSING REPORTS THAT Y'ALL COMMISSIONED SAY HOW DESPERATELY OUR CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS NEED THIS KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO YOU TONIGHT, ON TOP OF THIS, IS JUST HOW ABSURD IT IS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS IN TEXAS HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION OF TEXAS CITY COUNCILS TO EVEN APPLY FOR A FEDERAL TAX CREDIT, THAT IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO APPLY FOR A FEDERAL TAX CREDIT. MIND YOU, NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT CITY TAX CREDIT. OKAY, Y'ALL DIDN'T MAKE THAT RULE. THAT'S A STATE THING. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. THE REASON FOR THAT RULE, THE REASON WHY YOUR APPROVAL IS REQUIRED, IS TO CREATE ANOTHER OBSTACLE OF THE MANY OBSTACLES THAT ALREADY EXIST TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TEXAS, TO CAUSE IT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN TIME, ADDITIONAL TIME, ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR THE PROVIDER AND TO, YOU KNOW, DRAW PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT WHO DON'T WANT AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS NEXT DOOR, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS. SO I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES TO JUST SIMPLY ALLOW THEM TO

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FINALLY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO RESPOND TO ONE OF YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT DENTON BEING TARGETED ABOUT ALL THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY AT ALL. I SEE IT QUITE THE OPPOSITE. THIS IS A NEED THAT WE HAVE THAT DENTON RESIDENTS HAVE. AND THE FACT THAT THERE THAT OTHERS ARE COMING TO YOU TO PROVIDE THAT NEED SHOULD BE SEEN AS A BLESSING AND NOT A CURSE. FINALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO VOTED YES TO ALLOW THE DUTCH BROS. CORPORATION A FREE CITY EASEMENT, IT WOULD REALLY, REALLY BE ABSURD TO SAY NO TO FEDERAL TAX CREDIT FOR DESPERATELY NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO PLEASE SAY YES.

THANK YOU. OKAY, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? YOU CAN COME DOWN, FILL OUT A BLUE CARD AFTERWARDS. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. HI. CHRISTINE BRAY, BOARD MEMBER FOR. I'M A BOARD MEMBER FOR DENTON AFFORDABLE HOUSING CORPORATION.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. I BELIEVE DEB WAS THINKING OF THE NEXT ONE TO FOR NO WORRIES. TO FURTHER ANSWER COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER'S QUESTION. THESE TAX CREDITS ARE FEDERALLY PROVIDED AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO BE SOLD. SO LIKE BANKS WILL TYPICALLY BUY THEM. SO THEY GET LIKE $0.90 ON THE DOLLAR OF THE TAX CREDIT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THEN IT OFFSETS THE BANK'S TAXES. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO READ A COMMENT FROM A FRIEND OF MINE WHO LIVED ON LIVES ON THE STREET THAT THIS PROJECT IS COMING TO IN SUPPORT OF IT. I DON'T LIVE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BUT A FRIEND OF MINE DOES. THEY COULDN'T BE HERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO READ THEIR COMMENT. THEY WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE HOUSING PROJECT THAT IS PROPOSED BY PALLADIUM. THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE BUILT IN THIS TOWN, ESPECIALLY HERE ON THE STREET THAT I THEY LIVE ON. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? YOU CAN COME DOWN, FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT. SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, DOCTOR ARMENTOR FOR COMING DOWN AND PROVIDING US WITH SOME SOME REAL CONTEXT FOR THIS. YEAH. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT IS CRAZY TO THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO STOP ESSENTIALLY SOMEONE FROM DOING WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT THEY COULD DO. AS, AS WE ARE ALL PARTICIPATING IN A TIME OF ACTIVISM NOW, I HOPE THAT WE WILL USE SOME OF THAT ACTIVISM TO REACH OUT TO OUR STATE PARTNERS AND COMMUNICATE THIS TO THEM WHILE BILL FILING IS STILL OPEN. THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING VERY PERTINENT THAT THEY CAN THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ONCE AGAIN HAPPILY MOVE APPROVAL, BECAUSE WORKING FOLKS OUGHT TO HAVE A PLACE TO STAY, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. I'LL SECOND MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO SO. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IT'S BEEN SAID A NUMBER OF TIMES, AND I'M GOING TO REPEAT IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T RESIDENTS. ABSOLUTELY. BUT DIDN'T. RESIDENTS MAY NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE OTHER COMMUNITY RESIDENTS BEAT THEM TO THE PUNCH. THAT'S MY CONCERN. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT RESERVED FOR DENTON RESIDENTS. THAT'S MY CONCERN.

ABSOLUTELY. DIDN'T RESIDENTS NEED IT? ABSOLUTELY DIDN'T. RESIDENTS MAY BE FROZEN OUT OF THIS PROJECT AND NOT GET A THING. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE. THERE'S NO SEQUESTER OF ROOMS. THERE'S NO NOTHING THAT PROTECTS DENTON RESIDENTS TO HAVE A SEAT AT THIS TABLE. AND I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT DENTON RESIDENTS. AND SO I'LL READ YOU THE NUMBERS FOR 9%. IF THERE ARE 19 IN DENTON, ZERO IN SANGER, TWO IN LAKE DALLAS, TWO IN CORINTH, ZERO IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE, ZERO IN FLOWER MOUND, NINE IN LEWISVILLE, THREE IN FRISCO, THREE IN LITTLE ELM. SO TEN MORE IN DENTON THAN IN OUR NEAREST OUR NEXT LARGEST CITY. SIMILAR SIZED CITY. SO THAT TO ME IS NOT EQUITABLE. AND AGAIN, IT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT DENTON RESIDENTS. THIS POTENTIALLY FREEZES DENTON RESIDENTS OUT AND DENTON DENTON TAXPAYERS I GET IT THAT THEY'RE ON THE ROLLS. BUT IT'S STILL THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS DENTON RESIDENTS DO NOT GET A ROOM OR A SEAT AT THIS TABLE. GUARANTEED. NOT NOT ONE ROOM IS GUARANTEED TO GO TO SOMEONE IN DENTON. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY ISSUE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 5 TO 2, TAKES US TO

[E. Hold a Public Hearing and consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton supporting Denton Affordable Housing Corporation’s 9% housing tax credit application to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs for the proposed new construction of the McAdams Haven Apartments to provide affordable rental housing; committing to provide fee reductions in an amount of $500.00; and providing an effective date.]

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THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT FIVE. CHRISTINE, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS MAYOR DOES BRING UP AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT DIDN'T RESIDENTS IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEHOW IN A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, WE COULD WORK IT OUT WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT DIDN'T? RESIDENTS COULD BE PRIORITIZED. IF A PROJECT GOES FORWARD, THEY GET THE CREDITS THEY BUILD COMES TO FRUITION. SO WHERE WE CAN DO THAT, WE'RE NOT ENTERING INTO ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. THIS REQUEST IS FOR SUPPORT TO APPLY FOR THE TAX CREDITS. IT IS ZONED WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT REGARDLESS, SO THERE WON'T BE. THIS WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. THERE WON'T BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. OKAY, I ASSUMED, BUT OKAY. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANTS AND THE ADJACENT PARCEL OWNERS, BUT I KNOW AFTER THE MEETING THERE WERE CONCERNS OVER THE SOME ISSUES BETWEEN CUMBERLAND CHILDREN HOME AND THE APPLICANT.

AND THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. HAVE THOSE ACHIEVED ANY FURTHER RESOLUTION. AND AGAIN THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR CUMBERLAND AND THE APPLICANT. I'M WITH DENVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT ADDRESSES ALL OF THIS. BUT YES, WE HAVE DISCUSSED CONCERNS THAT CUMBERLAND HAS. MANY OF YOU THAT WERE ACTUALLY IN THE SLIDE CLOSER TO THE MIC FOR ME, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SORRY MANY OF YOU WERE IN THE MEETING AND SO ARE AWARE OF WHAT THOSE CONCERNS WERE. ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS THAT THE PROPERTY WAS FENCED BUT DID NOT HAVE A GATE. SO WE ARE ADDING A GATE. WE ARE. THE ONE ENTRY POINT WILL BE ON LINDSAY AND WE WILL HAVE A GATE ON BERNARD, BUT IT WILL BE EXIT ONLY SO THAT WE'RE NOT SHARING AN ENTRANCE WITH CUMBERLAND. WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY SEX OFFENDER CHARGE WHATSOEVER ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE HAVE AGREED TO NOT DO THAT. WE'VE AGREED. ALSO, WE WERE GOING TO ONLY HAVE ONE 24 HOUR PERSON AT THE SECURITY PERSON AT THE DESK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WE'VE AGREED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 24 HOUR, SEVEN DAY A WEEK STAFF MEMBER TO SUPPORT THAT SECURITY PERSON AS WELL. AND THEN WE ALSO SAID THAT WE WOULD ADD ENTRY INTO THE BUILDING THAT WAS THAT WAS FOBS OR BADGE TO GET INTO THE BUILDING. AND EVERY ACCESS TO THE BUILDING IS GATED. SO LIKE THERE'S AN OPEN COURTYARD IN THERE, THE, THE SIDEWALK TO GET INTO THAT COURTYARD. IT'S GATED.

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ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE MADE ATTEMPTS TO IMPROVE THAT. BUT I'M NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ENOUGH. NOR IS TWO WEEKS TIME SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO FULLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE CHALLENGES. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A PERMANENT SUPPORTED HOUSING FACILITY THAT HOUSES 84. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE CHALLENGES ARE. THESE ARE JUST THE INITIAL ONES THAT WE HAD. AND AM I CORRECT THERE'S NOT A FENCE AROUND THE. CUMBERLAND CUMBERLAND PROPERTY. WE HAVE FENCE AROUND PORTIONS OF OUR PROPERTY, MOSTLY THE ONES THAT BACK UP TO THE HIGHWAY BECAUSE OUR PROPERTY BACKS TO THE HIGHWAY. BUT EVEN THERE ARE LARGE PORTIONS OF OUR 17 ACRES THAT ARE UNFENCED, AND EVEN THE PARTS THAT, LIKE OUR ENTRANCES TO DIFFERENT DRIVEWAYS, ARE NOT GATED. WE HAVE RECOGNIZED FOR A LONG TIME THAT THAT IS A NEED FOR US. WE HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN LOITERING ISSUES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, ITEMS BEING STOLEN FROM OUR PROPERTY, ETCETERA. AND WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT THAT IS A NEED, BUT THAT IS IT. WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT TWO YEARS AGO, THAT'S A $200,000 EXPENSE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN TO RAISE THOSE FUNDS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS TODAY TO BUILD THAT. AND DO YOU EVER HAVE ISSUES WITH RUNAWAYS? WE DO. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL IS AWARE. OUR CHILDREN'S RESIDENCE, WE HAVE THREE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS. OUR CHILDREN'S RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM SERVES TWO VERY DISTINCT POPULATIONS. SO WE ARE THE EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR DENTON COUNTY. WHEN A KID IS REMOVED FROM THEIR FAMILY'S HOME AS A RESULT OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT, WE ARE VERY OFTEN THEIR VERY FIRST STOP IN THE CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM. THE SECOND ONE WE HAVE IS A TREATMENT CENTER. WE HAVE A TREATMENT CENTER FOR THE KIDS WITH THE HIGHEST ACUITY, OFTEN THE MOST TRAUMA IN THEIR BACKGROUND, AND THEY ARE TRANSITIONING OUT OF AN INPATIENT PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY TO OUR CAMPUS, WHERE THEY CONTINUE TREATMENT PROGRESS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT QUITE READY FOR A FAMILY BASED FOSTER HOME. THEY NEED MORE INTENSIVE THERAPEUTIC SUPPORTS. BUT THEY ARE. THEY HAVE MADE PROGRESS IN THE INPATIENT PSYCH FACILITY. SO WE HAVE LIKE A TRANSITIONAL TREATMENT CENTER FOR KIDS IN FOSTER CARE ON OUR CAMPUS. WELL, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK YOU ALL DO. SO NECESSARY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND JUST IN CASE I FORGOT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE CARDS. WE'LL GET TO THOSE. BUT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I'M GOING TO BE IN FULL SUPPORT FOR THIS. I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY NECESSARY MOVE FOR US. IT DOES SATISFY OUR RESPONSIBILITY, OR WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO IS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WITH THIS PROGRAM, JUST IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL AND YOU'RE LIVING IN THE WOODS AND THERE IS A PLACE THAT YOU CAN GO TO FIND RESPITE, AND THAT WOULD BE THE HOMELESS SHELTER. AND THE HOMELESS SHELTER THAT WE HAVE IS VERY WELL SUPPORTED BY THIS COMMUNITY. AND THERE ARE PROGRAMS. THERE IS 18 NONPROFIT GROUPS THAT WRAP AROUND THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, INCLUDING TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING YOUR TAX DOLLARS. AND ALL OF US ARE PUTTING OUR ENERGY INTO THIS SPACE. AND YOU ARE A PERSON THAT IS THAT IS OF SOUND MIND, BUT

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AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AND REALLY FOR BOTH OF YOU, FOR CUMBERLAND AND THE APPLICANT. ON THE SECURITY QUESTION, IT SOUNDS LIKE PART OF THE ISSUE IS YOU DON'T HAVE A KIND OF A THIRD PARTY THAT YOU BOTH ACCEPT AS AUTHORITATIVE TO GUIDE SO THAT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE MITIGATED IT OR NOT. IS THAT HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT OR COULD YOU TALK ABOUT, EVEN IF IT'S A CONSULTATION WITH DENTON POLICE, YOU KNOW, SOME SOMEBODY THAT YOU WOULD BOTH ACCEPT AS, YOU KNOW, GIVING GOOD GUIDANCE. AND THEN YOU COULD PUT THAT ONE TO REST. ALICE CRUZ I CAN TAKE THIS ONE. YES. I THINK WE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT. WE HAVE A SECURITY TEAM. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR DOWN THAT DOES A LOT OF OUR AUSTIN JOBS, BUT THEY HAVE AN ENTIRE SUBCONTRACTOR THAT DOES SECURITY ON, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES THAT ARE NEXT TO SCHOOLS OR KIND OF SENSITIVE LOCATIONS. AND SO WE WOULD BRING THAT SUBCONTRACTOR ON BOARD TO LOOK AT IF THERE'S ANYTHING KIND OF PHYSICAL THAT WE COULD PUT ON THE BUILDING, SUCH AS A FENCE, LIKE WE WILL HAVE A SHARED PROPERTY LINE THAT WE WILL PUT A FENCE UP AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPLIANT. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO FOR THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM. IT CAN'T BE LEANING, IT CAN'T BE IN DISREPAIR AT ANY GIVEN POINT. OR WE WOULD PUT THE TAX CREDITS AT RISK THROUGH OUR PHYSICAL INSPECTIONS, WHICH MAY HELP WITH THAT REALLY LARGE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE SHARED PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY LINE. I THINK THAT MAY BE KIND OF MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH OF US. BUT YEAH, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A SUBCONTRACTOR THAT THAT WE CAN WE ALREADY KNOW OF ONE THAT WE CAN BRING ON. AND WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT DOES ALL OF OUR NORMAL SECURITY CAMERAS, AND THEY ARE WONDERFUL. THEY DEAL WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATE WITH US AS OWNER. WHERE DO WE WANT COVERAGE? WHERE DOES MANAGEMENT WANT COVERAGE.

THEY WOULD ALSO LIKELY IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR AREA THAT OUR BUILDING CAN CATCH AS IT, YOU KNOW, ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING MAYBE GOES OVER A PROPERTY LINE OR IN A PARKING AREA OR DOWN THE STREET, HAPPY TO PROVIDE THOSE. AND JUST AS A STANDARD, WE ALWAYS TURN OVER.

LET ME BACK UP. WE ALWAYS RECORD ALL OF THOSE CAMERA FOOTAGE, AND IT IS HELD IN THE PROPERTY, IN THE OFFICE AND AT ANY REQUEST IS HANDED OVER TO THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER IT'S OUR

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ONE IS TO STAFF, I BELIEVE, OR WELL, I'LL JUST THROW IT OUT THERE AND WHOEVER IS APPROPRIATE CAN ANSWER IT. THIS IS A THESE THIS FEBRUARY 28TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR THE TAX CREDIT. BUT ARE THERE ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT STOP POINTS AFTER THE 28TH, OR IS THIS THE FINAL DECISION DATE? AND THE REASON I'LL PUT INTO CONTEXT, THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS IF THERE'S CONTINUED DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DECISION NOW? AND THERE'S CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND THERE'S A FUTURE STOP POINT IF IT'S NOT RESOLVED, OR THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. THE DEVELOPMENT STILL DOES NEED TO GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BUT THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL. IT WOULD JUST GO TO P AND Z FOR FINAL PLANNING. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS THIS THIS MY LAST QUESTION IS I GUESS IT'S TO THE APPLICANT IS, IS THE COHORT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO MOVE INTO THIS THIS UNIT, THE IDENTICAL COHORT IS IN OADBY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEY HAVE INCOME LEVELS. THEY HAVE TO BE SORT OF CAPABLE OF BEING DIVERTED. THEY'RE NOT A LOW BARRIER COHORT. IS THAT CORRECT.

SO THE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SCREENING THROUGH TDA. SO WE DO HAVE TO SCREEN PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN. WE IN OUR CURRENT HOUSING NOW, I MEAN I'M SORRY, MY RESIDENTS, THEY'RE NOT DANGEROUS. YOU KNOW I HAVE I HAVE THESE PEOPLE IN MY HOUSING NOW IN 96 UNITS THAT ARE SCATTERED ACROSS DENTON, THAT ARE IN ALL OF THESE COMMUNITIES. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY THE BUT I WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDERS SO THAT WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN HOUSING THAT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN HOUSING. THERE IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THESE UNITS. AND SO THERE'S NO REASON TO PUT SOMEONE IN THAT'S NOT READY TO BE HOUSED AND CAN'T BE SUCCESSFUL IN HOUSING. AND SOME INDIVIDUALS JUST THEY'RE NOT AT THAT LEVEL. AND THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A GOOD FIT. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE I MEAN, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY. I MEAN, IF YOU SEE THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, THOSE ARE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. JUST BECAUSE, OH, WE NEED HOUSING. THOSE ARE LETTERS OF SUPPORT BECAUSE THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO EVERY DAY IN MY JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CLIENTS ARE BEING SUCCESSFUL IN OUR HOUSING AND STAYING HOUSED. SO IT'S LIKE WE'RE JUST NOT THROWING RANDOM PEOPLE INTO INTO HOUSING THAT ARE GRABBING THEM OFF THE STREET AND GRABBING THEM OUT OF OUR, OUR DAILY BREAD. OUR OUR DAILY BREAD NEEDS A SAFETY TEAM LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE LARGER NUMBERS AND IT'S A SHELTER. THIS IS PERMANENT HOUSING. WHENEVER YOU GIVE PEOPLE PERMANENT HOUSING, IT GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS OTHER BARRIERS IN THEIR LIFE AND STABILIZE. AND IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME THING. THANK YOU. CARRIE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. CARRIE, CAN I ASK YOU ONE MORE? YES. ONE OF YOU CAN TALK ME THROUGH KIND OF WHAT THE STRUCTURE. IS THIS PERMANENT HOUSING GOING TO BE KIND OF GOING COME AND GO AT WILL, OR ARE YOUR RESIDENTS GOING TO HAVE TO SORT OF BE IN IN A CERTAIN TIME OF NIGHT? IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS THAT I'M ASKING FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE? RIGHT. NO, IT'S THEY'RE RESIDENTS. SO I MEAN, IT'S LIKE IF THEY WERE TO GO RENT AN APARTMENT JUST LIKE ANY OF MY OTHER UNITS, WE DON'T HAVE A YOU HAVE TO BE IN, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME, YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T LEAVE IT UNTIL THIS TIME. SO, I MEAN, IT IS PERMANENT HOUSING. HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE PARTICULAR SECURITY PLAN THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF, OF PERSONNEL THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE AT ALL TIMES. SO THE WAY THE TECH PROCESS WORKS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNITS TO QUALIFY FOR THE FUNDING TO COME IN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO

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AND THAT'S IT. THE ONES IN HOUSTON WITH HOPE HOUSING, WHICH IS A, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE NOTHER ENTITY. THEY DO THE SAME THING. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S 200, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROPERTIES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE 200 HOUSEHOLDS IN IT. SO THIS IS THIS IS SMALL SCALE REALLY KIND OF COMPARED TO WHAT IT'S GOING UP ACROSS THE STATE. SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS SIMILAR PROPERTIES AROUND THE STATE WITH MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF UNITS, OPERATE WITH ONE SECURITY PERSON, ONE SECURITY. YEAH. YOU'RE AIMING TO HAVE TWO. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR OKAY. WE HAVE SEVERAL CARDS HERE. SO SAMUEL FRAGA ESCALANTE, YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SAMUEL, RESIDENT OF DENTON. HOMEOWNER HERE. LIVED HERE ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW, ALONG WITH NORTH TEXAS AND A PREVIOUS PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE AND TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING IN SUPPORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVER THESE PAST FEW ITEMS. AS YOU RECALL, I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ISSUES ADJACENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH REGARD TO, AS MISS BYRD VERY ELOQUENTLY EXPLAINED, YOU KNOW, THE PIPELINE OF HOMELESSNESS AND WHAT IT TAKES TO GET BACK ON YOUR FEET. AND THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I SPOKE ABOUT, ABOUT THAT COLLECTIVE ACTION TO GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. SO ANOTHER COG IN, THEN HOPEFULLY THE PUBLIC MACHINE TO GET FOLKS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AGAIN, AS VICKY SAID. SO I URGE YOU TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

WE HAVE 20 COMMENTS IN SUPPORT ON E-COMMENTS IN SUPPORT FROM THE MEETINGS AND AGENDAS WEBSITE WHERE FOLKS CAN COMMENT. SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ONLINE IF YOU'RE WATCHING FOR COMMENTING AND SUPPORT OF THIS, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND JUST HAVING WORKED WITH BOTH OF THESE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, BEING A TEACHER, WORKING WITH STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES, UNHOUSED STUDENTS, AND WITH INCARCERATED, FORMERLY INCARCERATED AND UNHOUSED POPULATIONS LIKE, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE AND LOVE WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THIS INTENTIONAL WORKING TOGETHER TO SOLVE THESE ISSUES BETWEEN BOTH PARTIES, COUNCIL AND EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, 18 WRAPAROUND SERVICES LIKE, YES, LET'S KEEP THIS GOING. LET'S KEEP BEING INTENTIONAL AND NOT WORKING OFF OF FEAR AND USING THAT AS KIND OF THE ROADBLOCK TO DO ACTION.

LET'S ACTUALLY SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING THIS FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST REGULAR OLD FOLKS, FOLKS AT THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND FROM COUNCIL, BECAUSE IT SETS A PRECEDENT FROM US TO NEIGHBORING CITIES. AND SO I WANT TO KIND OF LIKE TALK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE KIND OF THE LEADER IN THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO WHEN I HEAR SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WAY MORE OF THESE TYPES OF UNITS HERE THAN WE DO IN OTHER AREAS, LIKE IN FRISCO, ETC. TO ME, LIKE, WHILE YES, I AGREE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FAIR THAT OTHER AREAS ARE NOT TAKING UP THIS RESPONSIBILITY, I SEE THAT ALSO AS A POINT OF PRIDE THAT HOW DID WE GET HERE, THAT WE HAVE THAT MANY. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING. AND IT SHOWS WHAT TRUE LEADERSHIP AND COMPASSION LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE HOLDING IT OFF FOR PEOPLE THAT WE SAY ARE OURS AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE THEIRS, THAT IS NOT A WIN FOR ANYONE. BECAUSE IF YOU SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE I WANT TO SAVE IT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DENTON, THEY'RE ALREADY RESIDENTS OF DENTON WHO WILL THEN NOT GET THAT HOUSING.

SO IF IT TURNS OUT THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF FOLKS FROM FRISCO. BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME FOLKS FROM DENTON WHO DO GET THAT HOUSING, THAT'S A WIN WIN. BECAUSE, AS COUNCILMAN BECK SAID, THEY BECOME DENTON. AND WE ARE A CITY OF PEOPLE WHO COME IN AND OUT. I WAS A COLLEGE

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THIS WILL PROVIDE THAT. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THAT THIS IS COMING. AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING BETWEEN FUTURE NEIGHBORS. AND I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S TO COME.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS GEORGE FERRY. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. MAN I WANT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GEORGE FERRY

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THIS PROJECT, PRESENTED BY OUR DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CARRIE BOGGESS, REPRESENTS A CRUCIAL STEP IN ADDRESSING THE DEEP NEED FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE DEBT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING CORPORATION IS A NONPROFIT FOUNDED BY LINDA MCADAMS, WHO IN 1984 BECAME THE FIRST WOMAN OF COLOR TO SERVE ON DENTON CITY COUNCIL. IN THE MID 90S, LINNY AND OTHER PASSIONATE COMMUNITY LEADERS ESTABLISHED DAC TO ADDRESS THE GROWING NEED FOR ADA COMPLIANT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS IN OUR AREA. DAK'S MISSION IS SIMPLE YET PROFOUNDLY IMPACTFUL TO PROVIDE SAFE, DECENT HOUSING FOR LOW INCOME AND MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS, PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, AND ELDERLY PERSONS WHILE ALLEVIATING HOUSING SHORTAGES ACROSS DENTON COUNTY. THE MCADAMS HAVEN PROJECT, WHICH WILL OFFER 84 PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS OR UNITS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WITHOUT STABLE HOUSING FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, PROVIDES AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY. THIS PROJECT ISN'T JUST ABOUT HOUSING, IT'S ABOUT SUPPORTING HUMAN DIGNITY. BY PARTNERING WITH LOCAL AGENCIES, WE'LL OFFER ON SITE SERVICES LIKE HEALTH INSURANCE, ENROLLMENT, MEDICAL APPOINTMENT SUPPORT, SUBSTANCE USE RECOVERY, MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES AND MORE, ENSURING RESIDENTS HAVE THE TOOLS TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES. THIS PROJECT IS MORE THAN JUST A PROPOSAL. IT'S ROOTED IN RESEARCH AND REAL WORLD IMPACT. HOUSING. FIRST MODELS LIKE THE ONE PROPOSED HERE HAVE BEEN PROVEN BY OVER 26 LONG TERM STUDIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS BY 88%, IMPROVE HOUSING STABILITY BY 41%, AND REDUCE RELIANCE ON COSTLY EMERGENCY SERVICES AND FIRST RESPONDER CALLS. THIS EVIDENCE IS CLEAR AND THE NEED IS URGENT.

HOUSING IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT, AND OUR COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY SHOWN ITS COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY APPROVING A $15 MILLION AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND, AND THIS PROJECT MEETS THE CRITERIA PER THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOOLKIT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND CRITERIA CREATED BY THE CITY OF DENTON. BY SUPPORTING MCADAMS HAVEN, YOU WILL BE PROVIDING OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS WITH A REAL CHANCE AT STABILITY AND SELF-SUFFICIENCY, SOMETHING THAT'S SIMPLY NOT AVAILABLE ELSEWHERE IN DENTON COUNTY. YOU WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE COUNTLESS LOCAL AGENCIES THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS NEEDS. TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE A LASTING DIFFERENCE. AS A COMMUNITY, WE CAN SHOW THE COMPASSION AND COMMITMENT WE ALL WANT FOR OUR OWN FAMILIES. WITH A 12 MONTH LEASE AND ACCESS TO CRUCIAL SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, WE ARE OFFERING A CHANCE AT NEW BEGINNING FOR OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS ON THEIR OWN TERMS. WITH 127 CURRENT RESIDENTS AT OUR DAILY BREAD QUALIFYING FOR THIS PROGRAM, APPROVING MCADAMS HAVEN FEELS LIKE AN OBVIOUS AND NECESSARY STEP. LET'S GIVE THESE INDIVIDUALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REINTEGRATE INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE DIGNITY AND RESPECT THEY DESERVE, BACKED BY THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO SUCCEED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR CONSIDERING THIS VITAL PROJECT. NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN AKERS. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M VERY BAD AT PUBLIC SPEAKING, SO FORGIVE ME. MY NAME IS JOHN AKERS. I AM THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM MANAGER AT DENTON COUNTY, MMR. I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED THERE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND I'M ALSO HERE TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH, WHICH IS DENTON AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE. AND THE REASON I THINK I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON WHAT SOME OF YOU HAD DISCUSSED THIS EVENING. THE PURPOSE OF THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM IS TO GIVE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, AS WELL AS HAVE A DISABILITY, MENTAL HEALTH CASE MANAGERS, WHICH IS WHERE MHMR WILL COME IN AND HAS COMMITTED TO TRAINING AND PROVIDING FOR HOUSING CASE MANAGERS AS WELL AS HOME HEALTH CARE AIDES FOR THIS PROGRAM. THE PURPOSE FOR HAVING THESE TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS IS TO HAVE THAT HOPE THAT INSTALLATION OF BUILDING SKILL SETS, WHICH MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE AT RISK AND HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, HAVE NEVER LEARNED. MANY OF THEM DON'T KNOW HOW A COMPUTER WORKS. THERE'S COMPUTER ILLITERACY. MANY OF THEM DON'T KNOW HOW TO CLEAN AND MAINTAIN AN APARTMENT. MANY OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GO DOWN TO DENTON MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC AND PAY THEIR BILL. THE HOUSING CASE MANAGEMENT, WHICH AGAIN MHMR WILL COMMIT TO PROVIDING FOR DENTON AFFORDABLE AND MORE

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I HAVE THOSE AND BUT IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF ANYONE ELSE CARES TO SPEAK YOU CAN COME DOWN FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. GIVE YOUR NAME FOR YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. BUT YEAH, IT'S GETTING LATE. HI. YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK. AS YOU POINTED OUT, IT'S GETTING LATE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. IT'S COLD AND IT'S FREEZING OUT THERE. SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN SAY YES ON THIS PROJECT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET HOME SAFE. THANK YOU. IF ANYONE ELSE IS OPEN, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.

YEAH. YOU CAN COME ON NOW. GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. I WILL TAKE FOUR MINUTES. I APPRECIATE YOU. MY NAME IS CHARLES GONZALEZ, AND I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT UNTIL TWO DAYS AGO AND DECIDED, OKAY, I'M GOING TO COME. I OWN A PROPERTY ON LINDSEY STREET, AND SO MY CONCERN IS I JUST REALIZED THAT YOU'VE GOT ONE ON ROSELAWN THAT YOU'VE APPROVED. AND THE PROXIMITY BETWEEN ROSELAWN AND THIS DEVELOPMENT AREN'T THAT FAR APART, REALLY. I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO EVEN LOOK AT. OKAY, WHERE ARE THE REST OF THEM? LOCATED IN DENTON. YOU KNOW, IS OR HAVE THESE BEEN DISTRIBUTED APPROPRIATELY WITHIN DENTON? I'VE BEEN A LIFELONG DENTON RESIDENTS. AND SO I WOULD SAY THERE'S TIMES THAT YOU CAN TAKE A PAUSE. THIS MIGHT BE A TIME TO TAKE A PAUSE. IF YOU'VE ALREADY GOING TO APPROVE ONE. BUT ANYWAY, LIKE I SAID, I, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE OPPOSING THIS AS A HOMEOWNER THAT HAS PROPERTY THERE. AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED THERE IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND BUT LIKE YOU SAID, DIDN'T COUNTY OR DENTON, CITY OF DENTON HAS MORE THAN ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES. AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE, START TALKING TO OUR NEIGHBORS ON HOW THEY CAN HELP SUPPORT THIS SAME NEED THAT'S THAT'S NEEDED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. I DO YEAH. YES. MY NAME IS AMANDA CONWAY AND I'M A DENTON RESIDENT, FORMER EDUCATOR AS WELL AS COUNCILPERSON BYRD AND SOME OF THE OTHER GUESTS. TONIGHT. I PERSONALLY SUPPORT THIS. I'M I VOLUNTEER WITH THE DENTON AFFORDABLE HOUSING CORPORATION, AND I'M OF A FORMER EDUCATOR OF STUDENTS THAT HAD SPECIAL NEEDS, BUT THEY WERE IN MAINSTREAM CLASSROOMS AND PART OF THEIR TRANSITION PLAN WAS, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO FOR HOUSING? AND I KNEW THAT THEY WERE GRADUATING, AND SOME OF THEM WERE JUST GOING TO FALL OFF. AND SOME OF THEM I'M OLD ENOUGH NOW THAT SOME OF THEM ARE IN THEIR 30S AND THEY ARE WITHOUT HOUSING, AND THEY NEED THE SUPPORT OF A CASE MANAGER. THEY NEED SOMEONE WHO'S HELPING THEM LOOK AT THEIR BILLS MONTHLY. I'M ALSO A FORMER FOSTER PARENT, SO CUMBERLAND IS THE TYPE OF PLACE THAT'S WHERE I WORKED. AND IT'S A SOME SOME OF THE SAME POPULATION. AND I WANT IT TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHILE THERE ARE RISKS OF HAVING A YOUNG CHILDREN IN THAT PROGRAM OR PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS IN THIS PROGRAM, THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT'S AROUND IS THE RIGHT KIND OF SUPPORT. AND. I SUPPORT THIS. THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN. IT'S PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK? YOU CAN COME DOWN. SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CUMBERLAND, PLEASE. SOMETHING YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER GUY

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YEAH, THAT'S. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S A PROBLEM. WE DID. IF I REFLECT BACK TO THE BORMAN CONVERSATION WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO REBUILD THAT SCHOOL, WE DIDN'T GO TO THE APPLICANT, DIDN'T GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WENT A YEAR IN ADVANCE AND TALKED TO THEM AND ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT WE REQUIRED MORE NOTICE THAN THAT. AND THAT'S JUST THAT'S THAT I GET IT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME THAT WE I MEAN, TWO WEEKS IS JUST NOT ENOUGH. IT JUST ONE MOMENT. YOU CERTAINLY. SO THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH. AND THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS DONE IN THE PAST. IN MY RECOLLECTION ALONE, I'LL SEPARATE MYSELF AND SAY, I DON'T RECALL US WITH THIS LEVEL OF IT'S NOT COMING BACK. YOU GET ONE SHOT AT IT AND YOU GOT TWO WEEKS TO WORK OUT SIGNIFICANT DETAILS SO THAT THAT NOTICE IS AN ISSUE FOR ME, THAT BEING SAID, YEAH, YOU CAN COME ON UP, CARRIE. YOU HAVE YOU WERE THE PRESIDENT. I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY OVER THE TEN MINUTES YOU WOULD HAVE USED, BUT I WANT YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHATEVER SLIDES YOU HAD TO MAKE SURE YOU. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE WAY THE TECH SYSTEM PROGRAM IS SET UP. BY THE TIME WE FIND OUT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE RANKED WITH AFTER THE PRELIMINARY TO FIND OUT OUR SCORING, IF WE'RE EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED. IT'S ONLY A FEW WEEKS THAT WE HAVE. WE SEND IN THE REQUEST TO THE CITY BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW OUR RANKING FOR THE APPLICATION OF SUPPORT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WITH THE TIME FRAME. SO HONESTLY, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT THREE WEEKS OR SO IN THAT TIME FRAME. AND ONCE I FOUND OUT WE WERE RANKED, I REACHED OUT TO SOME INDIVIDUALS WITH THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE, THE CITY OF DENTON, UNITED WAY, AND SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND SAID, OKAY, THIS IS WHERE I'M LOOKING AT. THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE PUT UNDER CONTRACT. WHAT WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME? WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT I NEED TO KNOW? AND IN ALL HONESTY, I WE GO TO THE WHOLE HOMELESS COALITION. WE DO CASE MANAGEMENT WITH THEM WITHIN THE CITY. CUMBERLAND IS NOT AT ANY OF THOSE THOSE MEETINGS. AND SO I DID NOT KNOW THE SERVICES CUMBERLAND PROVIDED IN THE COMMUNITY UNTIL I SAT DOWN WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AND FOUND OUT. AND AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHEN I RECEIVED COURTNEY'S EMAIL ADDRESS, AND I REACHED OUT TO SET UP A MEETING WITH HER AND SCHEDULED A MEETING WITH HER. AND IT ALL FELL IN THIS TIMEFRAME. IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL. AND WE LOOKED AT THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S PRIMARILY RENTERS. AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO WE NEEDED TO REACH OUT TO, WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS. I'VE MET WITH CARRIAGE HOUSE AS WELL. THEY SUPPORTED THIS, AND THEY THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT COMING ON, YOU KNOW, COMING TO THE AREA. SO WE DID DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROGRAM WITH TECH MAKES IT VERY CHALLENGING TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THAT'S WE WERE NOT TRYING TO BE, YOU KNOW, BACKHANDED ABOUT THIS IN ANY WAY. NO, NO. AND I DON'T I DON'T SAY THAT. I JUST SAY I HOPE WE CAN AGREE TO TWO WEEKS IS NOT A LOT OF TIME. I AGREE IT IS. AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE COLLABORATE WITH ALL THE NONPROFITS. AND WE'RE COMING WITH A SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION.

THIS IS ZONED MULTIFAMILY. AND ANY ANYBODY CAN GO DEVELOP A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY. YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK WITH CUMBERLAND LIKE WE'RE GOING TO THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SECURITY THAT WE HAVE. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE LOCKED GATES AND BADGE ENTRY AND SECURITY GUARDS AND CAMERAS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE BOTH COMMUNITIES CAN THRIVE. YOU KNOW, AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT, I 100% WITH YOU. BUT TWO WEEKS IS NOT A LOT OF TIME FOR THIS. AND I MEAN, AND YOU'LL LOSE ME A LITTLE BIT JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER MENTIONED IT. I, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LONG TIME SINCE I WENT TO MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND I KNOW A FRIEND THAT LIVED THERE AT CUMBERLAND. SO IF YOU'VE I MEAN, JUST BEING IN DENTON AND YOU HAVE BEEN. I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVEN'T BEEN. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A KNOWN COMMODITY. I MEAN, IT'S 14 ACRES IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN THAT IT'S THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY. I MEAN, IT JUST IT'S A KNOWN COMMODITY, LIKE YOU DRIVE, EVEN IF YOU JUST DRIVE THE AREA. YOU SEE, THERE'S THIS LARGE AREA, RIGHT? I KNOW CUMBERLAND, BUT I THOUGHT THEY TREAT IT THEY WERE WITH BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WORK WITH FAMILIES AS WELL. I WAS NOT AWARE OF ALL OF THE SURE I DID, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. WE WERE NOT TRYING TO SNEAK THIS

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BUT IT WAS NOT EASY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL TO GET THE NEXT ONE DOWN THE ROAD. AND THIS ONE MIGHT ALSO GET DOWN THE ROAD. AND IF IT DOES, I'LL ALSO BE IN FAVOR AND CHEER IT ON. BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE AND HOW MUCH I DO HEAR EVERYONE HERE. THANK YOU. YOU. YOU'VE SPOKEN TWICE, BUT REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? I'LL WAIT UNTIL YOU CALL THE MOTION AND LET ME SPEAK. SIR, UNLESS YOU WANT TO CALL ME NOW, IT MATTERS NOT. GO RIGHT AHEAD. JUST IF YOU COULD BE MINDFUL. YES. THANK YOU SIR. I TOO AM TORN. THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 100 YEARS. AT THE SAME TOKEN, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION AND I AM GOING TO SIDE WITH EVERYONE THAT SAYS THE PROCESS AND THE TIME LIMITS ARE TERRIBLE. WE SHOULDN'T BE UP AGAINST IT. THE MAYOR IS NOT WRONG THAT WE HAD A SHORT TIME FRAME ON THAT OTHER DEVELOPMENT AND THE DECISION I HAD TO SIT THROUGH THIS ENTIRE THING WAS, WHAT IS THE RISKS VERSUS THE PERCEIVED RISK VERSUS THE MITIGATIONS? AND I'M, I THINK I'M I'M GOING TO COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF THIS, EVEN THOUGH I RECOGNIZE THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I WILL SAY THAT REGARDLESS OF THE VOTE THAT HAPPENS IN JUST A SECOND, I WILL I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO GO TO WORK WITH CUMBERLAND AND TRY TO GET THEM THEIR $200,000 FOR THEIR FENCE. SO REGARDLESS OF HOW WE VOTE, I'M ON BOARD TO HELP YOU WITH THAT FENCE. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION OR NO. GO AHEAD. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU MAYOR. I TOO WILL BE QUICK. AT THE OUTSET, I WANT TO APPLAUD THE COURAGE OF SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, PARTICULARLY MISS JESTER. THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. SO I, I HEAR YOUR YOUR LONGING AND YOUR PASSION FOR THIS. AND I APPRECIATE THE CARE YOU'RE GIVING THIS. I'M GOING TO BE CONSISTENT. I'M GOING TO MOTION IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE OF OBVIOUSLY, ALL THE FOUR REASONS I TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER PROJECTS. AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE WHO CAME AND SPOKE. I APPRECIATE YOUR ELOQUENCE AND YOUR PASSION. YOUR RIGHT. I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL FOR THIS FOR A DIFFERENT REASON. OFTENTIMES, WE HEAR FROM A LOT OF DEVELOPERS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND OFTENTIMES IT'S PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF DENTON, PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF DENTON WITH A LOT OF MONEY. THEY WANT TO COME HERE. THEY WANT TO DROP SOMETHING HERE, MAKE ALL THEY CAN, CAN ALL THEY GET, AND THEY'RE GONE. BUT THIS IS NOT THIS. THIS DEVELOPER IS IN THIS

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YOU'RE HERE DOING THE WORK. I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE RESPONSIVENESS OF YOU ALL AS DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BUILT WITH US. AND I CAN TRUST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH CUMBERLAND GOING FORWARD. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THAT IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL. LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. OH I'M SORRY, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES FOUR THREE TAKES US TO ITEM SIX A, WHICH IS ID 25018. CONSIDER

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton determining the public use, need, and necessity for the acquisition of various (i) permanent drainage easements and (ii) temporary construction easements, generally located along Bernard Street, West Sycamore Street, West Mulberry Street, and Stroud Street and between Carroll Blvd. and Elm Street situated in the William Loving Survey, Abstract No. 759, the M.E.P. & P.R.R Co. Survey, Abstract No. 925, the Eugene Puchalski Survey, Abstract No. 996 and the William Neil Survey, Abstract No. 971, all in the City and County of Denton, Texas, and more particularly described in the attached Exhibit(s), “A” (collectively, the Property Interests(s)”); authorizing the City Manager and City Attorney to acquire the Property Interests by agreement if possible, including making all offers required by law; authorizing the use of the power of eminent domain proceedings if necessary; authorizing the expenditure of funding; making findings; providing a savings clause; and providing and effective date.]

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PARCEL FIVE. PARCEL SIX. PARCEL SEVEN. PARCEL EIGHT. PARCEL NINE. PARCEL TEN. PARCEL 11.

PARCEL 12. PARCEL 14. PARCEL 15. PARCEL 16. PARCEL 18. PARCEL 19. PARCEL 21. PARCEL 22. PARCEL 23.

PARCEL 24. PARCEL 29. PARCEL 31. PARCEL 32. PARCEL 33. PARCEL 34. PARCEL 35. PARCEL 36. PARCEL 38.

PARCEL 39. PARCEL 40. PARCEL 42. PARCEL 43. PARCEL 44. PARCEL 45. PARCEL 46. PARCEL 47. PARCEL 48.

PARCEL 49. PARCEL 50. PARCEL 51. PARCEL 52. PARCEL 53. PARCEL 54. PARCEL 57. PARCEL 58. PARCEL 59.

PARCEL 60 AND PARCEL 62. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. WHAT QUESTIONS CAN I ANSWER FOR YOU AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

WHO WE MISSING? THANK YOU. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM SEVEN A ID 242138. CONSIDER

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton approving and authorizing the submission of an application through the United States Environmental Protection Agency’s Water Infrastructure Finance And Innovation Act (WIFIA) loan program for financial assistance via long-term loans in a total amount not to exceed seven hundred and seventy million, nine hundred and seventy thousand, five hundred and eighty-three dollars and seven cents ($770,970,583.07) to fund up to 49% of the total project cost for water and wastewater plant and transmission projects. including capacity increases, system expansions, and system improvements included in the water and wastewater capital improvements program; authorizing payment of an application fee of one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000.00); appointing the Chief Financial Officer of the City of Denton (CFO) as an authorized representative for the City responsible for overseeing the application and loan process and authorizing the City Manager and the CFO to take all action necessary regarding the application and agreements for the WIFIA loan program and other actions necessary to accomplish the intent and purposes of this ordinance; and authorizing the City Attorney's Office, Bond Counsel, City’s Financial Advisor, and Engineers named in the WIFIA application to take such action reasonably necessary in support of such application and agreements to accomplish the intent and purposes of this ordinance; and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (6-0).]

WE'RE BREAKING THIS LOAN APPLICATION UP INTO TWO PHASES. PHASE ONE IS GOING TO ADDRESS OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPACITY. PECAN CREEK, THE PLANT EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENTS ARE CLEAR CREEK WATER WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, RAY ROBERTS TREATMENT PLANT, AND MAJOR COLLECTION AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. EXPANSION PHASE TWO WILL INCLUDE IMPROVEMENTS ON OUR LIFT STATIONS, SEWER COLLECTION AND DISTRIBUTION MAIN REPLACEMENTS.

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SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE WIFIA PROGRAM IS BECAUSE OF THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IT PROVIDES. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WENT OUT TO THE MUNICIPAL MARKETPLACE AND I ISSUED DEBT FOR THE CITY THIS YEAR, THAT PAYMENT WOULD BECOME DUE NEXT YEAR. WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO DRAW FUNDS DOWN WHEN WE NEED THEM AND TO STRUCTURE PAYMENTS UP TO FIVE YEARS AFTER WE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE THE PROJECT. NOW, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE RESIDENT AND THE TAXPAYER OR THE RATEPAYER HERE IN DENTON THAT ALLOWS US TO CAPTURE THE GROWTH AND THE REVENUE FROM THAT GROWTH BEFORE WE START PAYMENTS ON THE LOAN.

SO IT GIVES US TREMENDOUSLY MORE FLEXIBILITY. WE'VE COMPLETED A RETAIL RATE STUDY THIS YEAR.

WE'VE COMPLETED A WHOLESALE RATE STUDY THIS YEAR. WE ARE BUILDING IN THIS ENTIRE CIP. SO THIS IS THE ENTIRETY OF OUR WATER WASTEWATER CIP FOR THIS FUNDING SOURCE. AND THAT CIP YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT'S IN YOUR FIVE YEAR CIP THAT WE ADOPTED THIS PAST YEAR. SO THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO CAPITALIZE ON SOME SAVINGS. WE SEE THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS HAVE SAVED ANYWHERE FROM 19 TO $71 MILLION. SO THIS IS JUST THE APPLICATION PIECE. WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL FOR THE 100,000 THAT WE WILL PAY FOR OUR APPLICATION FEE, AND THAT THAT FUNDING WILL GO TOWARD THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND BOND COUNSEL AND FOLKS ON THIS SIDE.

THAT'S THAT'S PART OF HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE SAVINGS FROM BEING ABLE TO LOCK IN AT LOWER RATES, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE STRUCTURING OUR HOLISTIC APPROACH TO HOW WE FUND WATER AND WASTEWATER IN A MANNER THAT IS EQUITABLE TO THE RESIDENT WHO RECEIVES THE BENEFIT AT THE TIME THAT THOSE HOMES ARE BUILT AND THOSE REVENUES ARE SECURED BY THE CITY. I APPRECIATE THAT CREATIVITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT

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IN FACT, THIS CAN EVEN BE KIND OF A IT'S SUBSERVIENT IS THE WRONG WORD, BUT IT CAN BE A LESSER SECURED DEBT AT TIMES, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S LOOKED AT. SO WE'RE AGAIN, THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS A LINE OF CREDIT, RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SPEND UP TO $42,000 IF AMERICAN EXPRESS LETS YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO START PAYING BACK AMERICAN EXPRESS. SO YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO USE WHAT YOU NEED. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ONLY USE WHAT WE NEED. OUR MATCH OF 51% CAN COME FROM MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES. SO WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, THE $195 MILLION THAT WE'VE SECURED FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD COUNTS TOWARDS OUR 51% MATCH.

THAT'S GREAT NEWS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO ALL OF THE PROJECTS. THEY ARE ALL IN OUR CIP. THIS IS ALL PART OF OUR GROWTH. THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT, AND WE NEED TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND. AND SO BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THINGS LIKE IMPACT FEES, FOR OUR EVALUATION OF RATES FOR TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO ALL COUNT TOWARDS THAT, 51% WILL PROVIDE A SAVINGS TO US OVER GOING TO THE MUNICIPAL MARKETPLACE AND JUST ISSUING DEBT. THERE MAY BE AT SOME POINT SOME DEBT ISSUANCE THAT WE DO, BUT WE WILL DO THAT IN THIS STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER SO THAT WE HAVE A LONG TERM PLAN FOR HOW WE ADDRESS GROWTH. SO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ISSUING DEBT FOR IT, THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T AFFECT OUR CREDIT RATING, BASICALLY. CORRECT. THIS IS JUST SAYING WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE UP TO THIS AMOUNT OF THE LOAN. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND CAN YOU SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WITH THE PROGRAM? AND I ASK BECAUSE WE STARTED APPLYING FOR THIS IN A PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, WE'VE MOVED INTO A NEW ADMINISTRATION THAT HAD ITS OWN SET OF PRIORITIES AND RULES. CAN WE EXPECT THIS TO BE THIS THIS PROGRAM? HAS IT BEEN SOLVENT THROUGHOUT MANY ADMINISTRATIONS? YOU'RE SAYING, CAN YOU JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? SURE. SO THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS. OH, OKAY. IT IS A REVOLVING LOAN FUND. SO I ANTICIPATE THAT IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT SEE HAPPEN WITH THE EPA ITSELF, THAT THE STATUS OF THE PROGRAM WOULD CONTINUE, I WILL WE ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ASSUMPTION IN MIND. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER SO WERE YOU SAYING THIS WOULD BE SUBORDINATE TO SEE OTHER KINDS OF BOND DEBT? IT CAN BE. YES, IT CAN BE. AND HOW HOW WHAT DETERMINES WHETHER IT IS OR NOT. WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND WE START TALKING ABOUT THE TERMS AND WHAT THEY'LL LOOK LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL. SO WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU ONCE WE START THIS PROCESS. OKAY. IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE UP TO US WHETHER WE SUBORDINATE IT OR NOT OR OR JUST WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET. WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET. AND THEN IS WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE PAY $100,000 FOR AN APPLICATION AND JUST LOSE $100,000? YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING. WE ARE CONFIDENT IN THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE TEAM IN DC. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH THEM OVER THIS PAST YEAR. THEY HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUSLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CITY OF DENTON. THEY HAVE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO ASSIST US WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE DO THIS IN THE MOST FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY WE POSSIBLY CAN. YOU KNOW, THAT HAS INCLUDED THEY HAVE PUT WORK INTO TAKING OUR MAP AND TAKING OUR PROJECTS AND SAYING, IF WE PUT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER, THEN WE HAVE WON ENVIRONMENTAL AND ALL OF THIS QUALIFIES IN THIS ONE AREA. SO WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE TEAM IN DC TO APPROVE OUR APPLICATION. GOOD LUCK. THANKS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. NO, NO I'M SORRY I GOT IT WRONG. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. MR. MAYOR, I TRIED WRITING THIS ON LIKE I WAS WRITING A CHECK. I THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO WRITE THOSE NUMBERS OUT ON A LINE. DESPITE THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE WATER MATTERS. HAPPILY SECONDED. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. VOTE ON THE SCREEN. PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM SEVEN B. GET

[B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton approving an amendment to the existing rates, fees, and charges for City-owned property and facilities upon Denton Enterprise Airport; and declaring an effective date. The Airport Advisory Board recommends approval (4-0).]

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PARDON ME. TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL THAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY PRESENT IN JANUARY WORK SESSION, BUT I WILL JUST ACTUALLY PULL UP ONE OF THOSE SLIDES THAT SUMMARIZES JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. AND AS COUNCIL WILL RECALL, DUE TO INCREASES IN OPERATIONS, INCREASE IN INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND REDUCTIONS IN OUR GAS WELL REVENUES, THE AIRPORT IS FORECASTING A YEAR OVER YEAR DEFICIT IN OUR FIVE YEAR FORECAST FOR THE AIRPORT FUND.

AND SO WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY? THESE RATES AND FEE SCHEDULE CHANGES, WHICH INCREASES SOME RATES AND ADDS A FEW OTHERS, IS MEANT TO CORRECT THAT DEFICIENCY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING IN A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A SAFE AND RELIABLE AND SUSTAINABLE AIRPORT, WHILE GIVING US A HIGH DEGREE OF FLEXIBILITY TO INCREASE OUR REVENUES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, SO THAT WE CAN TURN WHAT IS NOW CURRENTLY A PROJECTED DEFICIT INTO A BASICALLY BRING THE FUND INTO THE BLACK STAFF DO HAVE THE A SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. SO WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING AN ACCESS FEE, A PERMIT FEE FOR AIRPORT BUSINESSES AND A WAIT LIST FEE WILL BE INCREASING OUR FUEL FLOW FEE. THAT'S A FEE THAT WE CHARGE OUR FIXED BASE OPERATOR OR OUR PRIVATE USE FUELERS FOR FUEL. THEY BRING ON TO THE AIRPORT BY $0.05 OR $0.08, DEPENDING ON WHICH CATEGORY THEY'RE IN, AND WE'LL INCREASE OUR CITY OWNED HANGAR RENT BY APPROXIMATELY 25%. AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NONE I DO HAVE ONE CARD. IT'S TREVOR SMITH. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING, I'M TREVOR SMITH. I'VE BEEN WORKING AT A SMALL AVIONICS SHOP AT THE AIRPORT FOR ABOUT 21 YEARS NOW. I KNOW THAT THESE PROPOSALS ARE TO CORRECT A BUDGET DEFICIT. I'M OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE FEES, NOT ALL OF THEM. I KNOW THAT THIS BUDGET DEFICIT WAS CREATED WHEN THE AIRPORT STARTED OPERATING AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, RATHER THAN PART OF THE CITY'S BUDGET. FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT THE BUDGET CURRENTLY OR ACCURATELY REFLECTS ALL THE AIRPORT'S INCOME. SPECIFICALLY, I'M REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY TAX THAT'S COLLECTED THAT AIRCRAFT OWNERS PAY FOR SOME OF THE AIRCRAFT BASED THERE THAT COMES DIRECTLY, OR THAT'S A RESULT OF THE AIRPORT BEING HERE AND THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT IN THE BUDGET.

ALSO, THE BUSINESS PROPERTY TAX FOR BUSINESSES BASED AT THE AIRPORT AND PROPERTY TAX ON HANGARS AT THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT DIDN'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR THAT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

IN ORDER TO MOVE TO THE ENTERPRISE OR OPERATE AS AN ENTERPRISE, THE CITY WANTED TO CUT OFF THE FLOW OF MONEY TO THE AIRPORT. I BELIEVE IT'S UNFAIR TO CUT OFF IF WE DON'T CUT OFF THE MONEY. THE FLOW OF MONEY FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE CITY, REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY TAXES.

A CONSULTANT AGENCY WAS HIRED TO COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A LOT OF THESE FEES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN IMPLEMENTING. IT WAS A COST OF $54,000. SOME OF THESE MOST OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT NOVEL IDEAS. RAISING THE RENT ON CITY HANGARS THAT WERE THERE TO BRING THEM UP CLOSER TO BEING ON PAR WITH THE REST OF THE HANGARS ON THE AIRPORT. THE PRIVATELY OWNED. THAT'S NOT A NOVEL IDEA. I'M NOT SURE THAT THE SQUEEZE WAS WORTH THE JUICE WITH THAT CONSULTANT. ONE OF THE OTHER FEES I'M SPECIFICALLY OPPOSED TO ARE THE ANNUAL BUSINESS PERMIT FEES. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NO OTHER BUSINESSES IN DENTON HAVE TO PAY AN ANNUAL RECURRING ANNUAL BUSINESS PERMIT FEE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO IMPOSE THAT

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SO IF YOU COULD JUST RATTLE THOSE OFF. YEAH. REAL QUICK. SO THE POINT OF THOSE NUMBERS IS THE BUSINESS PERMIT FEES WILL GENERATE A QUICK BACK OF THE NAPKIN MATH, ABOUT $15,000 IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. THE AIRPORT ACCESS FEES WILL LO $25 A YEAR PER PERMIT MAY GENERATE ABOUT ANOTHER $5,000, INCREASING REALIZING THE POTENTIAL INCREASE IN THE HANGAR. RENT 450,000 PLUS. ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING THERE ARE THREE, MAYBE FOUR, AT LEAST THREE HANGARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REVERTING TO THE CITY, THE AIRPORT OWNERSHIP, WHICH THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RENT TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. AND THIS SHOULD BE INCREASED IN EXCESS OF $100,000. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE NEAR FUTURE, I BELIEVE THIS YEAR THAT AS THE AIRPORT LEASES EXPIRE, THOSE BUILDINGS REVERT TO THE CITY, THE AIRPORT, THE AIRPORT WILL BE ABLE TO RENT THOSE HANGARS. NOW THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL $100,000. SO THE POINT BEING WITH THESE BIG TICKET ITEMS, THE AIRPORT OWNED HANGARS, THE ADDITIONAL HANGARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE UP FOR RENT AND THE FUEL FLOW, WHICH I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE FUEL FLOW, THAT'S ANOTHER BIG TICKET ITEM, ABOUT $150,000 IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO IMMEDIATELY WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, ABOUT $300,000 IN REVENUE WHEN OUR BUDGET DEFICIT WAS ROUGHLY 200,000. SOME OF THESE SMALLER FEES ARE UNNECESSARY.

THEY CREATE THE PERCEPTION OF BEING NICKEL AND DIMED, WHICH IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED, IS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AIRPORT. IF YOU'RE BEING NICKELED, YOU CREATE THE OPTICS ARE IMPORTANT.

IF YOU ARE IF YOUR PERCEPTION IS THAT YOU'RE BEING NICKELED AND DIMED, PEOPLE GO TO OTHER PLACES TO DEVELOP. SO I BELIEVE SOME OF THESE SMALLER FEES ARE MORE OF A NUISANCE AND UNNECESSARY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. IN CONCLUSION, JUST TO REITERATE, I THINK WE'VE GOT NOT JUST A BUDGET DEFICIT PROBLEM, BUT AN ACCOUNTING PROBLEM, REFERRING BACK TO THE SALES TAX OR THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES AND SALES TAX. THE PROPERTY TAX. GOT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME. RON, IF YOU COME IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THOSE I THINK THOSE I MEAN OUTSIDE LOOKING IN THOSE ARE VALID POINTS. SO TELL ME WHY THEY'RE NOT. SO I THINK THEY'RE WELL I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH TREVOR PROBABLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO IT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FAULT HIM FOR, FOR BRINGING THESE ISSUES UP WITH RESPECT TO, FOR INSTANCE, OUR AVIATION FEES, THE PERMIT FEES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH OUR APPROACH WAS TO RECAPTURE COSTS AND RECAPTURE IT FROM THOSE WHO DRIVE THE COSTS. SO FOR INSTANCE, WITH OUR BUSINESSES, WE HAVE A WHOLE PROCESS THAT INVOLVES US VALIDATING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. PARDON ME, RECONFIRMING THAT THEY ARE MEETING OUR MINIMUM OPERATING STANDARDS, THAT THEY ARE UP TO DATE ON THEIR INSURANCE. AND THAT TAKES STAFF TIME AND THAT TAKES COSTS FOR TECHNOLOGY. AND SO THE IDEA BEHIND THE PERMITS IS THAT WE CAN RECOUP THAT COST FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO DRIVE THAT COST. SAME FOR THE OTHER NEW FEES THAT WE HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE $50,000 ISH COST FOR OUR OUR FEE STUDY FOR THE CONSULTANTS WHO DO THAT, THAT WAS ONE PART OF IT. WE'RE ALSO DOING A IMPACT STUDY, ECONOMIC

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MAYOR. YEAH. NO, NO, I'M MONOPOLIZING THE TIME, SO I'LL GET OUT OF THE WAY. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF I IF I TAKE HIS POINT THAT HE'S SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO COME INTO SOME NEW MONEY WHEN YOU'RE RENT THESE SCHEDULED HANGARS THAT ARE COMING OFF THE BOOKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RE RENT. AND SO IS THAT CAPTURED IN THIS ONE IN THE FUTURE DEFICIT OF 151,000, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING. IT'S BEEN CAPTURED IN THE INFORMATION WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. YES. IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR. YES, SIR. YEAH.

GOT IT. AND SO THEN I MEAN AND IT'S JUST YES OR NO. ARE THE PROPERTY TAXES CAPTURED IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. THEY GO TO THE GENERAL FUND. NO. OKAY. ARE THE AIRPORT TAXES CAPTURED IN IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. WELL, PROPERTY TAXES AND BUSINESS PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE CREATED AT THE AIRPORT, THEY DO NOT COME BACK TO THE AIRPORT FUND. THEY GO TO THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND SERVICES FROM THE GENERAL FUND. SURE. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. COME ON. THERE, I GOT IT. THANK YOU. IT'S SO BY STAGING, YOU SAID A SECOND AGO THAT BY BY STAIR STEPPING IT THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD THE GOAL WAS TO NOT NOT SCARE AWAY POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS. DOES THAT ALSO GIVE YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO READJUST IF SOME OF THESE THESE FEES MATERIALIZE AT A HIGHER RETURN THAN YOU EXPECTED YOU BY STEPPING IT AND PHASING IT, YOU WON'T HAVE TO ADJUST THEM AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT CORRECT? SO I THINK AS A AS A AS A GOAL, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE AS CLOSE TO MARKET AS FEASIBLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ASSET THAT THE AIRPORT HAS IN THESE CITY OWNED HANGARS. BUT WE EVALUATE RATES AND FEES EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, REALLY, FOR STAFF TO THE COUNCIL OF WHAT WE WANT TO RAISE AND WHAT WE WANT TO LOWER, GIVEN OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION AT THE TIME. SO THE ECONOMY, THE ECONOMICS OF THE AIRPORT CHANGES PRETTY FREQUENTLY ONGOING. AND SO WE WOULD TACKLE THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX, COUNCILPERSON JESTER, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE POINTS YOU BROUGHT FORWARD. AND I ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU LIVE IN DENTON, TO CONSIDER AT SOME POINT APPLYING TO BE ON THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD, THEY VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND I ALSO WANTED TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAXES ARE ALREADY EARMARKED FOR THE GENERAL FUND, AND THERE ARE ITEMS THE ENTIRE CITY. SO THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE CALCULATIONS OF IS IT WORTH CITY TAX DOLLARS IN THE CITY TO OWN AN AIRPORT? SO IF THE AIRPORT WASN'T THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THERE AND OTHER PROPERTY TAXES? THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THOSE FUNDS AND BUSINESS TAXES, SALES TAX, DON'T GO TO DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MAKING SENSE FOR THE CITY TO OWN AND RUN AN AIRPORT. I ABSOLUTELY TAKE YOUR POINTS AS FAR AS FEELING LIKE WE'RE NICKEL AND DIMING AND PEOPLE MOVING. THERE ARE OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE AREA. AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, AS SOME OF THESE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO

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SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION. I'LL SAY THIS HERE'S HERE'S MY THING. IT IS ANNUAL. WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION AT THE END OF THE YEAR. YOUR POINTS AREN'T LOST UPON ME. IT IS A CONCERN FOR ME. JUST FULL DISCLOSURE, IF YOU'VE MET WITH HIM SEVERAL TIMES, EITHER HE'S NOT BEING FORTHRIGHT ABOUT NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PERMITS OR THAT WASN'T COMMUNICATED WELL. AND SO FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT, I HAVE CONCERNS THAT I'M GOING TO DEAL AND DRILL INTO AND COME BUDGET TIME. SO WE NEED TO HAVE CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND WE NEED TO HAVE ANSWERS TO A BETTER WAY TO COMMUNICATE WHAT WE'RE DOING. BETWEEN THE PROPERTY TAXES. I TAKE COUNCILMEMBER JESTER'S POINT AND THE BUSINESS PROPERTY TAX. THAT'S SEPARATE. THAT'S AN AIRPLANE AND A HANGAR, I THINK. SO WE NEED WE NEED TO I HAVE CONCERNS NOT ENOUGH TO HOLD THIS UP TODAY, BUT I'M JUST FORECASTING THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE BETTER. AND IF WE'RE MEETING WITH YOU, THERE'S A LOT WE SHOULD PROBABLY UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER BETTER. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FOR MY TASTE TO THEN CONTINUE THESE GOING FORWARD. SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY WARNING IN OCTOBER. IN OCTOBER, WHENEVER BUDGET TIME IS AND YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, WHERE'S THIS COMING FROM? IT'S COMING FROM FEBRUARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. NO, BUT I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO, BUT YOU FEEL FREE TO I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO MEET. WE CAN CATCH UP LATER. I GET IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

[C. Consider appointing a nominating committee to recommend appointees to serve on the Economic Development Partnership Board.]

YEAH. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL BRITTANY SOTELO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

BACKGROUND ON THE ITEM ORDINANCE 20 2-1672 REQUIRES THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPOINT THREE PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THE EDPB NOMINATING COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE SOLICITS NOMINATIONS, CONTACTS, NOMINEES, CONFIRMS ELIGIBILITY AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, AND PRESENT A SLATE OF APPOINTEES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE MEMBER OF THE DENTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE CHAMBER HAS ALREADY NOMINATED MARTY RIVERS TO SERVE THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE. MEMBERS ARE QUALIFIED FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE EDP AS WELL. TODAY. COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. YOU SHOULD. WELL, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO APPOINT TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALONG WITH THE DENTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NOMINEE, MARTY RIVERS, TO THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NONE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER I ACTUALLY DID THIS JOB ONCE BEFORE WITH MARTY RIVERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER RYAN, AND I'M. I'LL NOMINATE MYSELF. I'M WILLING TO DO IT AGAIN. IT WASN'T HARD. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THROW MY HAT IN THE RING. I SERVED ON THIS BOARD FOR MANY YEARS, CHAIRED IT FOR YEARS, AND WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SERVE IF THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S WISH AND ORIENT ME. DO THEY HAVE TO BE ON? IS IT ONE IS ON THE OTHER? IS THAT RIGHT OR NO? ON THE EDP? AND IS THAT ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE ON BOTH? THEY DO NOT.

OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT'S THE TIMING OF THE MEETINGS. WHEN DO THEY GET STARTED WITH THIS DISCUSSION. SURE. SO RIGHT I KNOW, BUT WHEN IS IT NOT. YEAH. WHEN DOES THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE, THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE. WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THEY MEET BEFORE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. BUT THERE MAY BE A CANCELLATION IN MARCH DUE TO SPRING BREAK, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. GOT IT. OKAY. AND FOR REFERENCE, ALSO COUNCILMAN MELTZER SERVES ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, AND SO DOES MAYOR HUDSPETH. YEAH. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOR MAYOR, I, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE NOMINATION OF COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER AND COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. GOT IT. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

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DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE VOTE ON THE SCREEN QUICKLY. WELL IT'S BEEN CALLED. OH OKAY. THERE YOU

[D. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2023-2024 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the Health Fund of Seven Hundred Ninety thousand Dollars ($790,000) for the purpose of funding expenses associated with increased health care costs; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2023-2024 Budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]

THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 BY $790,000. THE MAJOR ITEMS DRIVING THIS INCREASE INCLUDED MEDICAL CLAIMS, PHARMACY CLAIMS, AND RETIREE HEALTH CARE. OF THE THREE MEDICAL CLAIMS MADE UP THE BULK OF IT. THE BUDGET, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IS FOR THE HEALTH FUND IS DEVELOPED IN ADVANCE OF EMPLOYEE BENEFIT ELECTIONS, WHICH OCCUR IN NOVEMBER OF EACH YEAR. THEN OUR EFFECTIVE THE FOLLOWING JANUARY. SO THIS PARTICULAR MODEL WAS DEVELOPED IN THE SPRING OF 2003. AND THE MODELS ARE ACTUARIAL WHICH USE PRIOR CLAIM DATA TO PREDICT FUTURE COSTS. THIS MODEL IS PUT TOGETHER BY A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT THAT THE CITY ENGAGES WITH ACTUAL CLAIMS OCCURRING DURING THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT NOT BUILD UNTIL AFTER THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. ALSO CONTRIBUTED AS PART OF THE 663,000 AND THE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES TO 790,000 WILL BE PAID FROM THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND RESERVE, WHICH IS MONEY THAT IS SET ASIDE AND RESERVED FOR HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED CLAIMS. AND WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. AS I'M SEEING THIS AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE I FULLY GET IT. THESE ARE EXPENSES THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED. CORRECT. WE'VE GOT A LOT, YOU KNOW, FAIR AMOUNT OF THE YEAR LEFT. SO IF YOU'RE JUST ARE YOU JUST COVERING ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, EXPENSES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY OCCURRED OR ARE YOU ALSO NOW REVISING YOUR ESTIMATES FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR? NO. THESE ARE EXPENSES THAT OCCURRED IN THE FISCAL YEAR THAT ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024. SO AS WE LAST YEAR FROM LAST YEAR. SO AS WE APPROACH THE END OF THE YEAR, WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE CLOSE. HOWEVER, IT WAS DETERMINED ON THE YEAR END ENTRIES. AND SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS ABOUT MID-NOVEMBER, WHEN ACCOUNTING HAD BOOKED ALL THE ENTRIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. WE REALIZED THAT THAT THE FUND WOULD BE OVER BASED ON THOSE MEDICAL CLAIMS THAT CAME IN IN, IN REALLY THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR, WHICH NECESSITATED THE NEED FOR AN INCREASE IN THE EXPENDITURE APPROPRIATION. AND WE ONLY OWN WE ONLY KNOW THIS NOW BECAUSE OF TREATMENT SEQUENCE OF TREATMENTS THAT ARE BASED ON A CLAIM THAT GOES BACK TO BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS, OUR ACCOUNTING TEAM SPENDS THE NEXT TWO MONTHS OR SO KEEPING THE BOOKS OPEN IN ORDER TO BOOK THE CLAIMS AND OTHER EXPENSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN ORDER TO CLOSE THE BOOKS. SO AT THAT POINT, LATE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. YOU KNOW, WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO BRING AN EXPENDITURE AMENDMENT. AND THEN BASED ON COUNCIL SCHEDULE, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST THAT EXPENDITURE INCREASE. AND I REALIZE WE'RE JUST WE'RE CHANGING A BUDGET NUMBER, BUT IT'S TAKING FROM SOMETHING. SO WHAT IS WHAT WILL WHAT WILL FUND

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[E. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, amending the fiscal year 2023-2024 budget and annual program of services of the City of Denton to allow for adjustments to the Fleet Management Fund of Seven Hundred Ten Thousand Dollars ($710,000) for the purpose of increased maintenance costs; declaring a public purpose; directing the City Secretary attach a copy to the 2023-2024 Budget; requiring approval by at least five votes; and providing a severability clause; an open meetings clause and an effective date.]

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. SO I'M. THESE ARE EXPENSES INCURRED IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO I AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN BECAUSE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. SO OKAY SO THESE AND THE THEY WERE THE REPAIRS AND NECESSARY EXPENDITURES WERE PAID OUT OF NOT THE FLEET FUND BUT SOMETHING ELSE. THEY WERE PAID FROM THE FLEET FUND. SO THE

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SO THIS IS NOT A CASH ISSUE. THE DOLLARS ARE GOING FROM SOLID WASTE TO FLEET, AND FLEET IS MADE WHOLE. BUT FLEET WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET, THE 2324 BUDGET, THERE WASN'T AN EXPENSE LINE FOR FLEET TO MAKE THOSE UNFORESEEN PARTS PURCHASES. AND SO THIS IS AN INCREASE TO FLEET EXPENDITURE APPROPRIATION TO COVER THAT AMOUNT. OKAY. BUT THEN I'M GOING TO FALL ON AND I FORGET WHO SAID IT. IF WE'RE JUST CORRECTING OUR BUDGET, WHY AREN'T WE DOING THIS AT BUDGET TIME? IF THE EXPENDITURES HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE AND EVERYBODY'S BEEN MADE WHOLE, WHY IS THIS NOT A BUDGET ISSUE? WHY WHY ARE WE DOING IT TODAY? IT IS A BUDGET ISSUE, BUT IT'S A BUDGET ISSUE FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, FROM THE FISCAL YEAR THAT ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024. OTHERWISE, WE WOULD ADDRESS IT IN THE CURRENT IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND WE WILL, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, CONTINGENCY FUNDING IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGETS MOVING FORWARD AND THE HARM BECAUSE THAT YEAR IS IN THE PAST. WHAT'S WHY? WHY DO WE NEED TO DO THIS? I'M JUST THERE'S JUST CONFUSION. THIS IS NOT ME BEING CRITICAL. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO COUNCIL ADOPTS AN APPROPRIATES BY STATE LAW A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND WE DO IT BY FUND. THERE'S ABOUT 35 FUNDS THAT WE BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE EXPENDITURES FOR. SO WHEN WE REALIZED THAT THE FUND WOULD BE OVER AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE BROUGHT BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO COUNCIL IN THE PAST. AFTER THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE APPROPRIATION ASSOCIATED WITH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT WHATEVER FUND DID NOT HAVE THAT ADEQUATE APPROPRIATION LEVEL. YEAH, I MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE IT FEELS POST-FACTO FOR NO REASON THAT I CAN FIGURE OUT. OKAY. SO THE ACCOUNTING STANDARDS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH REQUIRE THAT WE KEEP THE FISCAL YEAR OPEN FOR WHAT IS CALLED THE NEAR TERM. THE NEAR TERM ARE THINGS THAT CAN OCCUR IN THAT NEXT 60 DAYS. REVENUE THAT OCCURS HAS TO BE BOOKED. WHEN WE HAVE EXPENSES, THEY HAVE TO BE PAID. SO THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR BUDGET APPROPRIATION. STATE LAW SAYS THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOUR BUDGET APPROPRIATION.

APPROPRIATION IS A LEGAL SPENDING LIMIT SET BY THIS COUNCIL. WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS SITUATION IS THAT INVOICES CAME IN DURING THE NEAR TERM, WHEN WE HAD TO PAY THEM BACK TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR FOR CATASTROPHIC WORK THAT HAD TO BE DONE IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

SO THE PAYMENT HAD TO BE MADE BECAUSE THE WORK WAS ALREADY DONE. THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION NEEDS TO BE INCREASED BY THIS COUNCIL TO KEEP US IN ALIGNMENT WITH STATE LAW, BECAUSE THOSE EXPENSES PUSHED US OVER THAT LEGAL SPENDING LIMIT, BUT THEY DID NOT GET BILLED UNTIL AFTER WE WERE IN THE NEAR TERM, WHICH WE HAVE TO BOOK BACK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF BUDGET LAW AND THE ACCOUNTING STANDARDS. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR.

ARE ALL THESE REPAIRS DONE IN HOUSE? I WILL TURN THAT OVER TO TOM. GOOD EVENING. TOM GRIMMER, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND FLEET. EVERY DOLLAR AMOUNT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN ARE REPAIRS THAT ARE COMPLETED BY THIRD PARTY VENDORS FOR OUR HEAVY CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND REFUSE TRUCKS. OKAY, SO IT'S NOT JUST PARTS, IT'S PARTS AND LABOR TO A THIRD PARTY VENDOR. PARTS AND LABOR. YES I SEE. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER. SO

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AND I ALSO GET THAT WHILE IT'S LIKE $700,000, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FOUR POINT SOMETHING PERCENT MISS, JUST IT'S STILL $700,000, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A FOUR POINT SOMETHING PERCENT MISS. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, HOW MUCH IS IN THE FLEET FUND? HOW MUCH CUSHION DO WE HAVE THAT ENABLES US TO KEEP OPERATING WHEN WE MISS BY 4.3%? WELL, WITH THE HISTORICAL DATA THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL BUDGET A CONTINGENCY FOR THESE TYPE OF SCENARIOS MOVING FORWARD. BUT WHAT'S IN THE FLEET FUND NOW IS THE IS THE IS THERE A FLEET FUND LIKE THAT GIVES YOU I MEAN APPARENTLY GAVE US THE CUSHION TO KEEP OPERATING. SO WHAT'S LEFT. DID WE DEPLETED OR. SO I DEFER THIS TO BUDGET FLEET IS A PASTOR. ESSENTIALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST APPROPRIATIONS.

SO WHEN A DOLLAR COMES IN, A DOLLAR GOES OUT. THE FLEET SHOULD NET ZERO A MONTH OVER MONTH, A YEAR OVER YEAR. SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A REAL CASH PROBLEM. IT'S A APPROPRIATIONS ONLY. OKAY. BUT YOU ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME JUST SEE IF I'M TRACKING. SORRY. THIS IS LIKE VERY REMEDIAL THIS SESSION FOR ALL OF COLD. SO YOU DIDN'T NEED TO TAP A FLEET FUND BECAUSE YOU'RE PAID FOR EVERY BIT OF WORK. CORRECT. SO IT'S MORE THAN WE TOLD THE STATE WE WERE GOING TO DO. CORRECT. SO AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND IS PAID FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE BY TRANSFERS IN FROM ALL OF THE OTHER FUNDS, THE TRANSFERS OUT FROM THOSE OTHER FUNDS ARE THE EXPENSES IN THOSE FUNDS. SO SOLID WASTE BUDGET. IT'S A TRANSFER OUT TO THE FLEET FUND TO PAY FOR THEIR REPAIRS. FLEET BUDGETS TO PAY THE VENDOR. WHEN THOSE TWO DON'T MATCH, IT BECOMES AN APPROPRIATION ISSUE. IT IS NOT A CASH ISSUE. YEAH, OKAY. WE COULD HAVE OVERSPENT BY THREE TIMES THE BUDGET. AS LONG AS WE'RE GETTING PAID BY THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. IS THIS YOU TO SPEAK AGAIN? YES IT IS. I FAILED TO TURN IT OFF, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REPRESENTATIVE FOR. WHAT? WHAT IF WE WERE TO NOT APPROVE THIS? THEN WE WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MUNICIPAL CODE. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. PLEASE, PLEASE. PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, IT IS REALLY LATE AND REALLY COLD FOR THAT. THIS CONVERSATION TO GO THAT DIRECTION. OKAY. YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE, I DO WANT TO I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO, TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE TRACK ALONG, UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE WATCHING, THERE IS NOTHING OVERSPENT. THERE'S NO BUDGET ISSUE. IT'S SIMPLY BETTER EASIER TERM NOT TO EXCEED. THE COUNCIL SAID. WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXCEED AN AMOUNT, AND WE DID EXCEED THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE OF EXPECTED REPAIRS COST MORE THAN THEY THAN WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD OR DIDN'T PLAN ON THEM COMING OR HITTING AND TIMING. AND IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF THE BUDGET SEASON. SO JUST SUFFICE TO SAY IT WAS AND ACTUALLY IT WAS ANTICIPATED IN THE LIKE, CASH IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT. IT WAS ANTICIPATED. WE JUST DIDN'T AUTHORIZE THEM TO SPEND IT. THEY JUST SPENT IT BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO SPEND IT AND IT WAS AVAILABLE AND THEY KNEW. AND JUST SO IT'S JUST A PROCEDURAL PAPERWORK THING, NOT A MONEY THING. AND SO WE DIDN'T OVERSPEND, BUT EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT THEY HAD IT IN THEIR BUDGET. IF THEY HAD IT IN THEIR BUDGET, THEN IT WASN'T AN EXPENDITURE. IT WAS CAPTURED IN THE BUDGET. IT JUST WASN'T CAPTURED ON PAPER. WHEN THE COUNCIL OR WHEN THEY CAME IN, THE COUNCIL SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND MORE THAN WHATEVER AMOUNT. SO IT'S NOT WHAT IT IS PURPORTS TO BE. IT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO. IS THIS TO SPEAK AGAIN? YES. VERY QUICK.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. MAYOR PRO TEM MELTZER, HOW MUCH DO WE TYPICALLY MISS BY LIKE IN RECENT YEARS? AGAIN WITH THE MISS. YOU KNOW, LET ME GATHER THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

NOT THAT CRITICAL. JUST CURIOUS IF YOU NEW YEAR WITH YOU ALL. I DON'T HAVE THAT HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. YEAH. IN OTHER LOCALITIES, THE SAME THING OCCURS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE A MID-YEAR MILLION DOLLAR SCRAPER AT THE LANDFILL OR BURNED UP, I'D BE HERE ASKING YOU FOR A THIS YEAR AMENDMENT. SO. YEAH. OKAY. JUST JUST CURIOUS. OKAY. THANKS. GOT IT. AKIN TO THAT. COME ON. LET ME. I'M NOW GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.

THIS IS. I NEED YOU TO TELL ME RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BREAK THIS NEXT FISCAL

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REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. FUN WITH THE FLEET FUND. I MOVE APPROVAL. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. MAYOR, I KNOW WE'RE PUSHING, BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING US HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON THIS, BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE VOTED DIFFERENTLY HAD WE NOT HAD THE EXPLANATION. SO I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR TAKING THE TIME TO WALK, TO WALK ME IN PARTICULAR THROUGH THIS HAPPILY.

SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES

[F. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the execution of a First Amendment to Operating Agreement with “Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, Texas”, relative to funding, ownership, maintenance, and repair of public improvements serving property located within the “Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, Texas” and other related matters; and providing an effective date.]

SO IT'S F I'D 25217. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE OPERATING AGREEMENT WITH COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE OF DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS. RELATIVE FUNDING, OWNERSHIP, MAINTENANCE, AND REPAIR OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SERVING PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

NUMBER ONE, ITEM G, ID 25218. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON SUPPORTING LEGISLATION RELATING TO THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, DENTON COUNTY. ITEM H, ID 25219. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE COLE RANCH PROJECT AGREEMENT RELATIVE TO A FUNDING, OWNERSHIP, MAINTENANCE, AND REPAIR OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS SERVING PROPERTY LOCATED IN COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. NUMBER ONE AND ITEM I, ID 25220. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, AMENDING PRIOR RESOLUTION. CONSENTING TO THE CREATION OF COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, DENTON COUNTY. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL. CASSIE OGDEN, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. OBVIOUSLY NOT CHARLIE ROSENDAHL. HE HAD TO STEP AWAY. HE'S ABOUT TO HAVE A BABY. SO VERY HAPPY FOR CHARLIE. BUT YOU GET ME TONIGHT TO GO THROUGH THE COLE RANCH AGREEMENT. SO, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. THIS IS A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY. A LITTLE OVER 3000 ACRES, 5900 SINGLE FAMILY UNIT UNITS, 3200 MULTI-FAMILY, 120 COMMERCIAL ACRES. WITH 256 INDUSTRIAL ACRES PLANNED. WE DO HAVE A MUNICIPAL MANAGER. THIS IS A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FOR BOTH HUNTER AND COLE RANCH. COUNCIL WORKED THROUGH THAT IN 2019 AND ULTIMATELY ADOPTED IT OR APPROVED IT IN 2020. YOU PREVIOUSLY HAD A WORK SESSION ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IN JANUARY. SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY DID WITH THE HUNTER RANCH AMENDMENT. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL AGREEMENTS WITH NOT ONLY THE DEVELOPER BUT ALSO THE DISTRICT. WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE PROJECT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT AND THEN THE OPERATING AGREEMENT AMENDMENT TONIGHT. SO JUST TO RECAP THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE IN RED ARE WHAT IS INCREASED OR CHANGING IN THE AGREEMENTS. SO THE FUNDING CONTRIBUTION TOTAL INCREASING FROM 7.185 MILLION TO 8.68 MILLION 5 MILLION. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION INCREASING FROM 1.5 MILLION TO 3 MILLION. WE ALSO HAVE INCLUDED A TIMING COMMITMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION TO START IN 2026.

THERE'S ALSO INCLUDED A REGIONAL TRAIL LOOP OF APPROXIMATELY 3 TO $5 MILLION. THE HOMESTEAD EVENT CENTER, AND THEN ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY FOR ONE OF OUR WASTEWATER PROJECTS. THERE'S ALSO A COMMITMENT TO PLUG AND ABANDON TWO GAS WELL SITES BY 2030. SO IN THE PROJECT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ITEMS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE AMENDMENT INCLUDES MANY OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALREADY LISTED, BUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION INCREASE, CONSTRUCTION OF A REGIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM. THAT WILL INCLUDE THE HOA COVERING ALL THE MAINTENANCE COSTS, AND GIVE US FULL ACCESS TO THE FOR THE PUBLIC THROUGH A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT.

CONSTRUCTION OF AN EVENT CENTER, WHICH IS ESTIMATED AT 8 TO $11 MILLION TO BEGIN WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF THE LOOP 28 SERVICE ROADS. AND THE CITY WILL HAVE A USE FOR MINIMUM OF 108 180 DAYS ANNUALLY. THE PROJECT AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDES THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION FOR ADJACENT ROADWAYS, AND THEN THE PLUG AND ABANDONMENT OF TWO GAS WELLS. THE OPERATING AGREEMENT INCLUDES THE AMENDMENT FOR THE TAX RATE INCREASE, SO THE CURRENT MMD INCLUDES A 55 CENT TAX RATE. SO

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WE CALL THEM SUPPLEMENTAL PROJECTS. SO CURRENTLY THE DEVELOPER IS REIMBURSED BASED ON THEIR PROJECTS DEFINED IN THE OPERATING AGREEMENT. BUT THOSE AND THE PROJECTS ARE REGIONAL IN NATURE. THEY EXCLUDE ANY NON REGIONAL QUALIFIED PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. THE AMENDMENT ALLOWS THEM A ONE FOR ONE. SO THE SUPPLEMENTAL LIST WOULD INCLUDE ALL DISTRICT ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, STORMWATER DRAINAGE, DETENTION AND IMPACT FEES. SO ESSENTIALLY THEY COMPLETE ONE PROJECT. IT UNLOCKS A DOLLAR THAT THEY CAN GET REIMBURSED. IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR CREATION OF A REGIONAL DISTRICT RESPONSIBLE FOR FINANCING. AND THIS WAS A THIS WAS AN ASK OF THE DEVELOPER, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE WITH HUNTER RANCH AMENDMENT. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL LAID OUT PRESENTATION. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NONE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO DIVERSIFY OUR HOUSING STOCK. THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. SORELY NEEDED IN THE CITY. SO I'M HAPPILY MOVING APPROVAL OF THIS. AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE PUT IN AND THEN THE WORK YOU PUT IN A SECOND TIME WHEN YOU HAD TO COME BACK FOR THE OTHER ONE. AND NOW FOR THIS ONE. SO GREAT JOB, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR DOING A GREAT JOB. AGAIN, WE'RE SHOWING HOW DIVERSE WE ARE WITH OUR EXPECTATIONS OF PROVIDING HOUSING AS BEST AS WE CAN FOR A VARIETY OF INCOME LEVELS. SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, MARK ON THE BOOK FOR US DOING A GREAT JOB.

SO YES I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THAT'S REFERRING TO ITEM F THE FIRST ONE. AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM F REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU MIND DOING WHAT WE DID WITH LANDMARK AND, AND JUST TAKING THE VOTES TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD RAPIDLY LIKE WE DID AT THAT ONE POINT THAT THAT WAS VERY EFFICIENT AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT LAST TIME. YEAH. FAIR POINT. SO WE WILL JUST IF WITH WITH AGREEMENT. YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. SO IT'LL BE THE SAME MOVEMENT AND SECOND EACH ONE.

GOT IT. OKAY. SO THIS IS F BEFORE US. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S. SO IT'S REVERSED. IT'S. OH YOU GET. IS THAT FURTHER. OKAY. YEAH. IT SAYS MOVER BUT WE'LL SEE IF IT CLEARS OUT. OKAY. SURE. SO LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN ON ITEM F. SURE. OKAY.

HOLD ON. THANKS. AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM G. WE'LL LET THAT GET SET. IN.

[G. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton, Texas, supporting legislation relating to the powers and duties of Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, Texas to issue bonds; and providing an effective date.]

[H. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the execution of a First Amendment to the Cole Ranch Project Agreement relative to funding, ownership, maintenance, and repair of public improvements serving property located within the “Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, Texas” and other related matters; and providing an effective date.]

[I. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton, Texas, amending prior resolution consenting to the creation of “Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, Texas” and the inclusion of land therein; and providing an effective date.]

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[J. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton creating the Discover Denton Advisory Board; and providing an effective date.]

CHRISTY FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF I KNOW I'M THE LAST ITEM THAT STANDS BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR HOME, SO I WILL BE BRIEF. TODAY WE ARE CONSIDERING BRINGING THE DISCOVER DENTON ADVISORY BOARD.

UNDERNEATH THE CITY'S PURVIEW. AS YOU MAY RECALL, ON DECEMBER 17TH, THE CITY OF DENTON ACQUIRED THE DENTON CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRANSITIONING THE ORGANIZATION TO AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION. THE CVB WAS PREVIOUSLY MANAGED BY THE DENTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WITH THE GOAL OF EFFICIENTLY PROMOTING AND GENERATING DEMAND FOR THE CITY OF DENTON THROUGH TRAVEL AND TOURISM. WITH THE TRANSITION OF THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU FROM THE CHAMBER TO THE CITY, THE DISCOVER DENTON ADVISORY BOARD WILL COME UNDER THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THE BOARD WILL BE KEPT. WE'RE PROPOSING THE BOARD WILL BE KEPT THE SAME, KEEPING THE MAKEUP AND PROCEDURES TO ALLOW FOR A SEAMLESS TRANSITION.

THE BOARD MEETS QUARTERLY AND CONSISTS OF 13 VOTING MEMBERS AND SIX EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS. THE 13 VOTING MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO REPRESENT A VARIETY OF RELEVANT INDUSTRIES, INCLUDING HOSPITALITY, ENTERTAINMENT, EVENTS, RESTAURANTS, HIGHER EDUCATION, AND A BREAKDOWN OF THE MEMBERSHIP CAN BE FOUND IN YOUR AGENDA MATERIALS. THE BOARD WILL FOLLOW RULES AND PROCEDURES SET FORTH BY THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HANDBOOK. THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS IS DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE INDUSTRY RELATED POSITIONS. BOARD MEMBERS WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO BE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY, AND BOARD MEMBERS WILL SERVE A TERM OF ONE YEAR, AND THE BOARD WILL BE DISSOLVED BY COUNCIL. ONCE THE TRANSITION TO AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION IS COMPLETE. AND WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. SO I HAD A LOOK AT THE MAKEUP. AND DO WE KNOW DID ANY OF THESE CURRENT SERVING MEMBERS DID THEIR TERMS EXPIRE DURING THIS NEXT YEAR? I MEAN, I JUST NOTICED THAT WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S BEEN ON THERE NINE YEARS, TWO THAT'S BEEN ON THERE EIGHT YEARS, TWO, SIX YEARS AND TWO TWO YEARS. AND WE HAVE FOUR VACANCIES. CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO SET UP. YEAH, THIS FOR SUCCESS. AND THE CURRENT MAKEUP DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. SO THE CVB PREVIOUSLY HAD THE DISCOVERED AN ADVISORY BOARD PREVIOUSLY HAD TERMS THREE YEAR TERMS WITH SERVING THREE YEAR THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS OF THREE YEARS. SO THAT WOULD BE NINE YEARS RIGHT. THE DECISION WAS MADE TO KEEP THE BOARD THE SAME JUST FOR CONTINUITY AND TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE. OBVIOUSLY, FOLLOWING THIS TRANSITION, THE INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESTRUCTURE THIS BOARD HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT. AND WHAT EFFORTS ARE GOING TO BE MADE TO FILL THESE FOUR VACANCIES? SURE. SO STAFF WILL BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE NOMINATIONS. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN HERE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. AND THIS IS FOR ONE YEAR. SO IF IT TAKES LONGER THAN ONE YEAR TO GET THIS UP AND RUNNING, THESE TERMS WILL ALL EXPIRE IF WE'RE EXTENDING IT ONE YEAR. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU SAID IT, BUT I'M JUST WE'RE ALL TIRED. WHEN THIS WHEN WE SUCCESSFULLY SPIN THIS OFF AS AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY, THEY THEY HAVE ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THEY WILL SET UP THEIR BOARD AFTER IT'S AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION REGARDING THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE. AND THE CONTEXT TO THE QUESTION IS, ANYTHING WE'RE DOING TODAY OR TONIGHT IS JUST FOR A OSTENSIBLY A YEAR. CORRECT. SO WITH THE ACQUISITION AGREEMENT. SO I FEEL

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OKAY. SO THAT'S THE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO? I MOVE APPROVAL REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

YES. WHO ARE WE MISSING? OKAY. THANK YOU. CERTAINLY. BY ALL MEANS. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

[8. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

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WORKING ON THE RAILROAD MAY BE HARD. WORKING WITH THE RAILROAD IS EVEN HARDER. ANYWAY, I'M REAL, REAL PROUD ABOUT THAT. AND SO DRIVE UNDER THAT AND YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING BUT RAILROAD TRESTLE. THANKS, EVERYBODY. AND STAY WARM TONIGHT. OVER AND UNDER. ON DAYS THAT IT LASTS.

NEVER MIND. COUNCIL MEMBER. DISTRICT. DISTRICT FIVE. REPRESENTATIVE. YOU KNOW THAT ARTIST. GO RIGHT AHEAD. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND THE WAY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO LEAD THE CITY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP. I WANT TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO DOCTOR BECK, COMING UP LATER THIS WEEK. WE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT YOU. WE'RE CERTAINLY PRAYING FOR YOU DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME. I HAD A BLESSED TO HAVE A GOOD A GOOD VISIT IN AUSTIN WITH OUR OUR LEGISLATORS LAST WEEK. THANKFUL FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY OF DENTON IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. SO HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH EVERY DAY, BLACK HISTORY EVERY DAY, WOMEN'S HISTORY EVERY DAY KWANZAA.

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