[WORK SESSION]
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          GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO THIS MEETING. DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS TUESDAY, APRIL 1ST, 2025. IT IS 2:01 P.M. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. IN PERSON. CONSENT HEARING ITEMS. OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST SECTION WHICH IS CITIZENS COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDAS. SEEING NONE, THAT TAKES US TO REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION ON AGENDA ITEMS, ON AN AGENDA, 
          [2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda for public hearing and individual consideration.]
PUBLIC HEARING OR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OF WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY. BUT FOR ONE, I'VE PULLED ITEM B FOR FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN ITEM C HAS BEEN PULLED AND WILL COME BACK AT A LATER DATE. SO NO VOTE ON THAT. WE WILL HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION. AND SO FOR THAT ITEM B IF STAFF COULD JUST HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS I ASK AVAILABLE TO BE DISPLAYED IF NEEDED THIS EVENING, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND THEN THE TWO CLOSED SESSION ITEMS ARE PLACEHOLDERS WHICH UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS PULLED WILL NOT BE WILL NOT NEED THOSE, BUT THAT THOSE ARE NOTED THERE. THE TWO CLOSED ITEMS THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST WORK SESSION, 
          [A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the operational and land use requirements of mobile food establishments.
    [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]
WHICH IS THREE A ID 25561 RECEIVE RECEIVE, REPORT HOLDER DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING OPERATIONAL AND LAND USE REQUIREMENTS FOR MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR COUNCIL. SCOTT MCDONALD, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I JUST WANT TO SET THE STAGE TODAY FOR THIS PRESENTATION WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE HAD FOOD TRUCKS IN DENTON FOR ANY NUMBER OF YEARS. WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF CODE CHANGES. WHAT WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY. AND REALLY POST COVID MORE RECENTLY IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, IS JUST A PROLIFERATE PROLIFERATION OF FOOD TRUCKS. AND SO STAFF HAS TAKEN SOME STEPS TO TRY TO AT LEAST CURTAIL THE NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS AND ADDRESS THOSE IN ACCESSORY. IN NO WAY HAVE WE NECESSARILY PERMITTED OR SET UP A LAND USE FOR FOOD TRUCKS THAT ARE ON AS AN ACCESSORY TO A PRIMARY BUSINESS. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE PRESENTATION IS REALLY GOING TO OUTLINE ALL OF OUR FOOD TRUCK RULES AS THEY EXIST, AND SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD. THOSE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS DON'T PRECLUDE COUNCIL FROM ULTIMATELY SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO FOOD TRUCKS IN DENTON. THAT WE WANT TO PROHIBIT THEM FROM BEING AN ACCESSORY USE. SO COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION TO US TODAY. WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT ADVOCATING FOR WE JUST RECOGNIZE THE COMMUNITY SEEMS TO SUPPORT FOOD TRUCKS. AND WE WERE TRYING TO PUT SOME GUARDRAILS IN PLACE TO TRY TO AT LEAST CURTAIL THE NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS THAT ARE AT PARTICULAR LOCATIONS AND GET THAT GUIDANCE GOING FORWARD OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND WE'LL BRING BACK THE APPROPRIATE CODE CHANGES AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BUT WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR ME TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND AND UNDERSTANDING, AND I'LL BE HERE AVAILABLE AT THE END FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MIA HINES. AND AS SCOTT STATED, THE REASON THAT I'M HERE BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON IS TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE RULES REGARDING OR PERTAINING TO MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AS THEY EXIST WITHIN THE CITY. WE'VE RECEIVED, LIKE SCOTT SAID, AN INCREASE IN INTEREST AROUND THE CITY. AND WE'VE NOTICED A LOT OF MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS ARE WANTING TO REGISTER AND BE PERMITTED TO OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED SEVERAL QUESTIONS FROM THIS BODY REGARDING HOW AND WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE, AS WELL AS HOW DOES THE CITY COLLECT SALES TAXES ON THEM. SO WITH THIS PRESENTATION, I HOPE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS LIKE SCOTT SAID HERE, SCOTT SAID, HEAR ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON THESE MOVING FORWARD. SO FOR THIS AFTERNOON'S AGENDA, IT WILL BE A QUICK PRESENTATION, BUT JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH. WE'LL TALK. START WITH A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS FAR AS TERMS AND DEFINITIONS AND THINGS. THEN WE'LL JUMP STRAIGHT INTO ZONING AND LAND USE AND PERMITTING AND OPERATION REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, CONCLUDE WITH THAT DISCUSSION. SO FOR MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT THAT SERVES SALES OR DISTRIBUTES ANY FOOD OR BEVERAGE FROM A MOBILE FOOD UNIT. A TRUCK OR TRAILER IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION, BECAUSE IF YOU'VE EXPLORED OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE, THEY DO CONSIDER, LIKE THOSE PUSH CARTS THAT YOU 
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SEE ICE CREAMS AND LIKE PREPACKAGED FOODS. THEY CONSIDER THOSE AS MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AS WELL. BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF OUR LAND USE DISCUSSION, WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LARGER TRUCKS, LARGER TRAILERS THAT OFTEN ARE IN PARKING LOTS AND SORT OF STAND ON THEIR ON THEIR OWN. FOR MOBILE FOOD COURT, WHEN I SAY THIS TERM, I'M REFERRING TO A LOT OR PARCEL WHERE MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS OR TRAILERS CAN BE LOCATED FOR THE BUSINESS OF SELLING FOOD. SPECIFICALLY, THE MOBILE FOOD COURT IS THE LOT WHERE MOBILE FOOD SALES ARE THE PRIMARY OR ONLY USE ON THAT LOT. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO LOTS THAT EITHER HAVE MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS OR MOBILE FOOD SALES AS THE ONLY USE ON THAT LOT, OR WHERE IT'S THE PRIMARY USE EXCEEDING 50% OF THE LAND USE IN THAT ON THAT LOT. AND THEN FINALLY, A COMMISSARY IS THE SITE APPROVED BY THE CITY HEALTH OFFICER, AT WHICH FOOD PREPARATION, STORAGE AND CLEANING OR SERVICING A VEHICLE OCCURS. AND WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE THAT COMES INTO PLAY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OPERATIONS REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE ESTABLISHMENTS. SO FOR ZONING, AGAIN, THAT MOBILE FOOD COURT, THE LOT WHERE MOBILE FOOD SALES ARE THE ONLY USE THAT ARE OPERATING OR THE PRIMARY USE OPERATING ON THAT LOT. THE DDC REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS APPROVED BY THIS BODY. IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IN PLACE. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MOBILE FOOD COURT LOTS THAT EXIST WITHIN THE CITY THAT WERE EXISTING PRIOR TO THIS BECOMING THE REQUIREMENT THAT SUP. SO THIS BODY HAS NOT ACTUALLY ISSUED AN SCP FOR A MOBILE FOOD COURT, BUT THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE DDC FOR A LOT TO SELL ONLY MOBILE FOOD SALES AS A PRIMARY USE. THE DDC DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AS OPERATING OR OPERATING AS ACCESSORY USES, BUT USING OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS HOW WE TREAT OTHER LIKE MULTI COMMERCIAL USE LOTS WHERE THEY HAVE MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL USES. WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME INTERPRETATION SPECIFICALLY FOR A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK TO OPERATE THE. AGAIN, THE LOT EITHER HAS TO HAVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A MOBILE FOOD COURT, OR THE LOT MUST CONTAIN AN EXISTING USE. THE. IT MUST BE ZONED AS A NON RESIDENTIAL OR HAVE NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND A RESTAURANT USES MUST BE PERMITTED IN THAT ZONING OF THAT LOT. I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE AGAIN. OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE MENTIONS SOME LAND USE AND DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY ARE SPECIFIC TO MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. JUST TO COVER OVER A GIVE A BROAD OVERVIEW. THE. WE DO HAVE THESE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT REQUIRE NEEDING PERMITTING COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CITY AND STATE CODES, INCLUDING THE STANDARDS FOR INSPECTION, HEALTH INSPECTIONS, AND NOISE. MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS MAY ONLY SELL FOOD ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT IN ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR WITHIN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY WITHOUT THE CITY'S APPROVAL. SO FOR LIKE CITY EVENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY SEEK CITY APPROVAL. 
          AND THEN MOBILE FOOD BUSINESSES MUST ALSO BE PARKED IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT OBSTRUCT REGULAR MOVEMENT. AND COMPLIES WITH REQUIRED SETBACKS AND DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING. SO THEY CAN'T BE PARKED AND REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR PRIMARY BUSINESSES. 
          THEY SHOULDN'T BE PARKED IN FIRE LANES, AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE PARKED TO OBSTRUCT THAT IN A WAY THAT OBSTRUCTS THAT, THAT REGULAR ACCESS. AS FAR AS PERMITTING. SO ONCE IF YOU HAVE OR INTERESTED IN OPERATING A MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON, YOU'LL APPLY FOR A PERMIT THAT WILL LIST THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU INTEND TO SELL ON STAFF'S AND WILL ENSURE THAT, AGAIN, THAT ZONING THAT IS NON RESIDENTIAL AND ALLOWS FOR RESTAURANT USES, THAT THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU'VE LISTED, IT COMPLIES WITH THAT ZONING WITH THAT PERMIT AGREEMENT. WE ALSO REQUIRE A RESTROOM AGREEMENT TO LET US KNOW WHERE YOUR STAFF AS YOUR AS A MOBILE FOOD BUSINESS, WHERE YOUR STAFF WILL USE THE RESTROOM. COMMISSARY INFORMATION IS ALSO REQUIRED WHERE YOU PLAN TO DO THE REQUIRED CLEAN OUTS. AND THEN BEFORE WE ISSUE THE INSPECTION, WE ALSO THE PERMITS. 
          WE ALSO DO INSPECTIONS. AND OUR INSPECTION TEAM ALSO DOES AT LEAST TWO RANDOM INSPECTIONS AND ANY FOLLOW UP INSPECTIONS ON THE VEHICLE AND FOOD RELATED EQUIPMENT, IF THEY RECEIVE ANY COMPLAINTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AS FOR OPERATIONS, ONCE A PERMIT IS ISSUED, IT IS VALID FOR 12 MONTHS. IT'S NONTRANSFERABLE AND IT MUST BE POSTED. THESE ESTABLISHMENTS ARE EXPECTED TO VISIT A COMMISSARY AT LEAST ONCE PER WEEK AND DO DAILY CLEAN OUTS, AND THEY'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN A LOG ON SITE TO SHOW THE COMMISSARY VISITS AND THEIR CLEAN OUTS TO. 
          IN THE EVENT THAT OUR INSPECTORS STOP BY, THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED TO CONNECT SEPARATELY TO ANY 
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UTILITIES, ANY WATER METER OR SEWER FACILITIES THEY MAY PLUG INTO EXISTING OUTLETS VIA A WEATHER PROTECTED ELECTRICAL CORD OR VIA GENERATOR OR GENERATORS, BUT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SET UP DIFFERENT METERS AND DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS FOR WATER AND SANITARY SEWER OR GAS SERVICE. AND THEN FINALLY, WHEN FOOD TRUCKS OR WHEN THE TIME COMES, FOOD TRUCKS ARE TO REPORT SALES TAX INCOME BASED ON WHERE THE BUSINESS ITSELF IS REGISTERED, NOT WHERE, BECAUSE CITY OF DENTON ONLY ISSUES PERMITS FOR DENTON OPERATIONS. BUT IT'S WHERE THE BUSINESS SPECIFICALLY IS REGISTERED AND WE ARE TRACKING THAT. SO ACROSS DENTON, JUST A BROAD OVERVIEW AS OF MID MARCH OF THIS YEAR, WE HAVE 129 MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE REGISTERED AND PERMITTED. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE ALL OUT CURRENTLY SETTING UP AND OPERATING. THIS IS MEAN MEANING THAT AS OF MARCH OF LAST YEAR, WE'VE HAD 129 PEOPLE APPLY OR RENEW THEIR PERMITTING TO OPERATE GENERALLY WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY TEN HOST SPOTS WHERE EITHER WE'VE SEEN A COLLECTION OF BASICALLY A MOBILE FOOD COURT THAT EXISTS, OR WE'VE SEEN A COLLECTION OF MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS ON A BUSINESS LIKE THAT EXISTS, AND THAT IS UNDER 50%. SO MOVING FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AGAIN, THIS IS ALREADY ON STAFF'S RADAR BECAUSE WE HAD SEEN AN INCREASE IN ITS POPULARITY. WE WERE PROPOSING TO MAKE THINGS A BIT CLEARER FOR MOBILE FOOD BUSINESSES AND THEIR OPERATIONS AS ACCESSORY, SPECIFICALLY WANTING TO AMEND THE DEFINITION TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS HOW THAT FUNCTIONS OR THAT THAT'S CLEAR. AND THEN USE THOSE OR IMPLEMENT THOSE, USE PERMISSIONS AND USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS. AS WE'VE BEEN PRACTICING. BUT AT THIS TIME, LIKE SCOTT SAID, I WANT TO KNOW IF THE COUNCIL CONCURS WITH THIS INTERPRETATION AND SORT OF AGREES WITH THE WAY THAT THEY'VE SEEN THEM OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY. AND IF NOT, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS AND MOVING FORWARD AND ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR US OPERATING THIS MOVING FORWARD? SO AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          QUESTIONS OR DIRECTION FOR STAFF PLEASE. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT AS WELL. SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE THOSE IN OUR CITY. AS FAR AS THE ACCESSORY USES OF THE MOBILE TRUCKS, CAN IT BE ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS? COULD IT BE? I MEAN, DOES IT MATTER WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IT IS THAT THEY SAY THIS IS NOW AN ACCESSORY TO OUR BUSINESS? NO IT DOESN'T. SO THE USE THE ZONING UNDERLYING ZONING OF THAT LOT HAS TO ALLOW OR HAS TO BE NON RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THE USE OF A RESTAURANT USE HAS TO BE PERMITTED WITHIN THAT ZONING DISTRICT ESSENTIALLY. SO IT DOESN'T. NO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ISN'T TIED TO THE BUSINESS ITSELF. OKAY. AND THERE WAS A PRIOR SCREEN THAT HAD A LIST OF ZONING DESIGNATIONS. ARE ALL OF THOSE I ASSUME RESTAURANTS CAN HAPPEN IN EACH OF THOSE? YES. YES. OKAY. EXCEPT FOR THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPLORING AS ALLOWING THEM TO BE ACCESSORY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. AND SO IF THEY IF WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING A MOBILE TRUCK COURT, A FOOD TRUCK COURT MATCHES ANY OF THOSE ZONING DESIGNATIONS, THEY JUST BY RIGHT CAN HAVE ONE. AND I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY OF ONE THAT POPPED UP NEXT TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND ANOTHER OFFICE THAT I WORRY ABOUT THE NOISE AND PARTYING. SO THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO ADHERE TO OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. SO IF THERE'S NOISE AND OR SMELLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS AN ISSUE. WE DO HAVE MEASURES IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS NOT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING. BUT AS FAR AS THE REALLY THE ONLY OTHER LIMITATION BESIDES IT BEING A NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND RESTAURANTS BEING PERMITTED IS THE BUILDING OR THE STRUCTURE THAT THE PRIMARY USE IS IN ITSELF, DEPENDING ON ITS SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE'RE SAYING THAT FOOD TRUCKS CAN'T AS ACCESSORY, CAN'T BE MORE THAN 50%, OR THEY CAN'T OCCUPY A SPACE OF MORE THAN 50% OF THAT MAIN BUSINESS. AND THAT'S PRETTY THE ONLY PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY OTHER RESTRICTION AS IT EXISTS TODAY. OKAY. HAS THERE BEEN ANY ISSUE WITH NON PERMITTED FOOD TRUCKS OPERATING AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO WOULD LOOK AROUND FOR THAT. BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS. POINT TO OUR ENFORCEMENT. YES. ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND IF SO WHAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. VERY RARELY DO WE GET THAT. WE GO OUT IMMEDIATELY AND MAKE CONTACT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S RUNNING THE UNPERMITTED FOOD TRUCK. LET THEM KNOW WHAT 
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THEY HAVE TO DO TO BE PERMITTED AND STOP THEIR OPERATIONS. I THINK MAYBE 2 OR 3 IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. GOOD. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. OH, SORRY. MY NAME IS KEVIN CUMMINGS. I'M THE CHIEF HEALTH INSPECTOR FOR THE CITY. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND LET ME SEE. YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THIS ON YOU, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED AT SOME POINT TO KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT OF SALES TAX THAT THE CITY COLLECTS FROM THESE FOOD TRUCKS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A NICE PIECE OF INFORMATION TO HAVE. YES, BECAUSE FINDING OUT THEY'RE SEEING THAT IT'S TIED TO THE ID OR THE BUSINESS ID, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRACKING MOVING FORWARD. AND WE COULD GET THAT NUMBER TO YOU. SO WHEREVER THEY'RE SITTING, IT SOMEHOW IS PAID THROUGH THAT BUSINESS. IT'S THE BUSINESS ID NOT WHERE THE SALE IS MADE. THAT'S WHERE THE SALES TAX ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT REPORTED TO. SO CURRENTLY WE'RE COLLECTING ALL OF THE SALES IDS AND WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU MOVING FORWARD. AND I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF A RANDOM QUESTION NOT ON POINT WITH WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I'M AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK THEY ALL SOUND REASONABLE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LIKE, SO LONG AS THEY'RE OPERATING IN THE WAYS THAT ARE NOT INTRUSIVE TO OTHERS. AND IT'S A NEAT WAY TO BE AN ENTREPRENEUR AND TRY TO MEET SOME NEEDS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FIVE, THEN FOUR, THEN TWO. THANKS. MAYOR. ME I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO ONCE A FOOD TRUCK APPLIES FOR THE PERMIT, I'M ASSUMING ONCE THEY'RE GRANTED A PERMIT, THERE'S NO MAXIMUM DAYS ALLOWED FOR OPERATION AS LONG AS THEY'RE WITHIN THAT 12 MONTHS. RIGHT. THE PERMIT IS GOOD FOR 12 MONTHS, RIGHT? I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, KEVIN? SO I GUESS, IS THE PERMIT THE SAME IF THEY WANT TO, IF THEY DESIRE TO ONLY OPEN LESS OR ONLY IN SPECIAL EVENTS. IS IT JUST ONE BLANKET PERMIT FOR THE ENTIRE 12 MONTHS IN THE FOOD TRUCK CAN OPERATE AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE AS THEY DEEM NECESSARY FOR THEIR BUSINESS MODEL? YES, SIR. THEY THEY CAN GO AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO. OKAY. AND THE AND THE PRESENTATION I SAW, I CAN'T FIND IT. I SAW IT OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT RESTROOM PERMIT. IT WAS AGREEMENT. RESTROOM AGREEMENT IS RESTROOM AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A RESTROOM WITHIN 500FT OF THEIR OPERATION FOR THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND WASH THEIR HANDS, AND IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN A PORTA POTTY. IT HAS TO HAVE A FLUSH TOILET AND HOT WATER GOING TO THE HAND SINK. 
          OKAY, SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE ON CITY GROUNDS. DOES THAT RULE THAT RULE PLAUSIBLE? THERE ARE A LOT OF OPEN CITY GROUNDS, CORRECT? RIGHT? YES, SIR. THEY SHOULD. BUT PORTA POTTIES DON'T COUNT. THEY DO NOT. OKAY. WE ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE ON CITY GROUND. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL PERMITTING REQUIRED FOR THEM IF THEY ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED AS A MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT? THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WE REQUIRE OF THEM. IF THEY'RE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE AND THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED WITH US, THEY HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. WE DON'T CHARGE THEM ANY ADDITIONAL MONIES TO OPERATE ON PUBLIC LAND, PUBLIC PUBLIC PROPERTY. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT PARKS AND RECREATION HAS AN IDEA ON, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THAT. OBVIOUSLY NOT GERMANE FOR TODAY, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF IN OTHER CITIES THEY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO OPERATE ON PUBLIC FACILITY LANDS. I'M I'M QUITE CURIOUS IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO JUST DO IT ANY TIME I THINK THAT. YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL CHRISTINE TAYLOR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. 
          SO WHEN WE CURRENTLY HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING PROCESS. SO WHEN THERE ARE FOOD TRUCKS COMING IN, FOOD VENDORS AT VARIOUS FESTIVALS, WE DO PERMIT AND CHARGE A FEE IF THEY'RE COMING INTO THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CHECK THAT THEY'RE DOING THE HEALTH INSPECTION AND THEY GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. SO IF IT IS SOMEONE COMING IN FOR A SPECIAL EVENT FOR CINCO DE MAYO FESTIVAL ARTS AND JAZZ, THEY DO GO THROUGH A PERMITTING PROCESS AND PAY THE FEE AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS. OKAY, SO BUT ANY OTHER TIME THEY CAN OPERATE ON PUBLIC LAND, THEY'RE FINE, RIGHT? BUT DURING THE SPECIAL EVENT, THEY PAY THAT SPECIAL EVENT FEE. CORRECT ANSWER. YEAH. I'M SORRY, I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION EARLIER. THEY CANNOT OPERATE ON CITY PROPERTY WITHOUT CITY APPROVAL. THE ONLY TIME THAT WE ARE ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE ON CITY PROPERTY IS WITH A SPECIAL EVENT LIKE CINCO DE MAYO OR OR ONE OF THE OTHER FESTIVALS THAT WE HAVE, IN WHICH CASE THEY PAY 
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A SPECIAL FEE. I BELIEVE SO, AND THAT GOES TO PARKS AND RECREATION, NOT TO ME. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU BET. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANKS. MAYOR. 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. 500FT TO GO WASH YOUR HANDS. THAT'S A LOT. 
          WOULD THIS WOULD THIS PRECLUDE A PERSON WHO WANTS TO HAVE A PARTY AT THEIR HOME FROM CALLING A FOOD TRUCK AND SAY, CAN YOU BE OUT HERE BETWEEN 6 AND 8 AND SELL HOT DOGS TO MY OR OR OR NOT SELL HOT DOGS TO MY GUESTS, SUPPLY HOT DOGS TO MY GUESTS, AND THEN I'LL PICK UP THE TAB AT THE END OF THE PARTY. YOUR ANSWER. OKAY, GREAT. I'M JUST GOING TO STAY HERE. YEAH. FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S REQUESTING SOMETHING FOR A PARTY THAT'S CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC, IT'S NOT OPEN TO ANYBODY TO WALK UP AND JUST GET SOMETHING. THEN THAT'S A PRIVATE EVENT. THAT'S A CATERING EVENT I SEE. AND WE DON'T REQUIRE ANYTHING OF THAT. THEY COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT FO. 
          WE SEE THEM FOR WEDDINGS AND BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THEY DO NEED TO BE PERMITTED THROUGH SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE. BUT AS FAR AS A CATERING EVENT GOES FOR A PRIVATE PARTY, WE DON'T REQUIRE ANYTHING I SEE. OKAY, OKAY. DON'T MOVE. I WON'T TO SALES TAX. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER BROUGHT THIS UP. SO THE FOOD TRUCK IS SELLING HOT DOGS IN CITY OF DENTON. BUT THEIR LICENSE, THEIR MAIN MAIN PLACE OF BUSINESS, IS IN A CITY THAT COLLECTS LESS SALES TAX THAN CITY OF DENTON. THEY WOULD BE CHARGED. Y'ALL ARE JUST DYING TO GET ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. THEY WOULD. THEY WOULD BE CHARGED. THEY WOULD BE CHARGED THE RATE OF THAT CITY WHERE THEIR WHERE THEIR, THEIR HOME BASE IS. RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE REGISTERED TODAY ARE REGISTERED IN THE CITY OF DENTON. SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY TRUCKS OPERATING THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY PAYING TAXES IN THE CITY OF DENTON. SO OUR ASSUMPTION TODAY, BUT WE'RE WE'RE CHECKING THAT IS THAT THOSE TRUCKS ARE REGISTERED HERE IN DENTON, MEANING THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY TAXES IN THE CITY OF DENTON, OKAY. EVEN IF THEY'RE OPERATING IN LEWISVILLE. OKAY. SO IF I'M REGISTERED IN CITY OF DENTON, I'M CHARGING 8.25% SALES TAX. IF I'M REGISTERED IN PODUNK, TEXAS, I MIGHT BE CHARGING 7.5%. YES, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT TO BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. OKAY, SO THE GUY NEXT DOOR TO ME IS CHARGING LESS, IS CHARGING MORE SALES TAX THAN I AM. IS THAT POSSIBLE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU I SIMILAR QUESTION. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO ALLOW P.F. SALES OR OR NOT. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED FROM BASED ON THE ANSWERS THAT I HEARD PREVIOUSLY, THAT IT IS TO ALLOW FOR TO MODIFY THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO OPERATE IN THE P.F ZONING. NOT NECESSARILY THAT THEY WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO GO DO P.F ZONING, MEANING THEY COULDN'T JUST SET UP IN THE IN THE DENTON CITY HALL PARKING LOT, BUT WE WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT USE IN P.F ZONING DISTRICTS. LIKE PUBLIC FACILITIES. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO YEAH, I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. THE WE GET VERY JARGONY SOMETIMES SO BUT THAT'S SORT OF KIND OF THE OPERATING CASE NOW BECAUSE YOU GIVE SPECIAL PERMITS TO OPERATE IN QUAKER TOWN AND CIVIC CENTER AND, AND WE ALREADY KIND OF DO THAT ALREADY THROUGH THE SPECIAL PERMITTING PROCESS. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. AND, AND I HAD HIS QUESTION ABOUT TAXES, WHICH IS INTERESTING. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THE CASE. AND. OKAY, SO TWO TWO OTHER LAST QUESTIONS. CAN YOU OPERATE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA? IF I HAD A BLOCK PARTY AND I GOT PERMISSION TO SHUT DOWN THE STREET, AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS WANTED TO BUY HOT DOGS FROM FROM HIS FRIEND, AND I WASN'T PAYING FOR HIM. THEY WERE PAYING AD HOC OR AD HOC. DOG WOULD. SORRY. WOULD THAT WOULD THAT BE LEGAL? YOU CAN'T OPERATE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IS WHAT I WAS READING FROM FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS. CORRECT. YOU WE'RE WE'RE NOT SETTING THIS UP TO ALLOW FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO OPERATE IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS OR ALL NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS 
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I KNOW THAT STAFF HASN'T NECESSARILY DONE AN EXHAUSTIVE SURVEY OF EVERY FOOD TRUCK IN OUR, IN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. BUT DO WE KNOW IF ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL PRECLUDE ANY KNOWN FOOD TRUCKS AND FOOD COURTS? WILL IT MAKE THEM NONCONFORMING? NO, NO. NOT THAT. 
          NO, I DON'T THINK ANY THAT WE'VE LOCATED. NO. ALL RIGHT THEN THEN GIVEN THOSE ANSWERS MY I SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM ONE AND THEN DISTRICT THREE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION THERE THAT THERE IS NO SELLING OF ANY. 
          PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS OR FOOD, SPECIFICALLY FOOD TRUCKS THAT COULD BE AT THE PARKS. AND THAT MEANS THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAN BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK. BUT THEY CANNOT BE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET AS THE PARK, SELLING NOT ONLY FOOD TRUCK FOODS, BUT MAYBE THOSE ICE CREAM CART TYPE. YOU KNOW, CARTS. DOES THAT ALSO EQUATE TO YOU SAID THAT THAT KIND OF FALLS UNDER THIS THING? BUT IF I HAD A LITTLE ICE CREAM CART, CAN I BE AT THE PARK BUT NOT IN THE PARK? SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE HOW DOES THAT CONNECT? THERE ARE DIFFERENT CLASS ON OUR PERMITTING SIDE. THERE ARE DIFFERENT CLASS OF MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT JUST FROM THE LAND USE PERSPECTIVE. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TRUCK AND TRAILERS. AND THEN THAT IS CORRECT THOUGH AS FAR WITHOUT A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, YOU CAN OPERATE ON CITY PROPERTY. IF THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET DOES PERMIT RESTAURANT USE AND IS NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING, YOU COULD TECHNICALLY YOU COULD TECHNICALLY DO THAT. YES. OKAY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION THERE. I'M GOING TO DO A VISUAL HERE. AND I'M LOOKING AT A FOOD TRUCK AREA THAT JUST POPPED UP. AND THEY ARE IN A THEY'RE AT A SERVICE STATION. AND IT'S THE FOOD TRUCK COURT IS AT A SERVICE STATION. AND THEY ARE OCCUPYING SPACES THAT HAVE PARKING SPACES. DO WE NEED TO DO ENGAGE? DIDN'T CALL THEM IN. CAN I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL CHECK FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE IS THE USE OF THAT PRIMARY BUSINESS. 
          SOMETIMES THERE'S EXCESS PARKING THAT'S NOT LIKE THERE. WITH THAT TRUCK BEING THERE, THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO MEET THEIR MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE PRIMARY USE. BUT BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT A COURT THAT HAS POPPED UP IN A PARKING LOT OF A SERVICE STATION. SO I WILL SAY THAT STAFF'S ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN MONITORING THE ACTIVITIES OF FOOD TRUCKS AND ESPECIALLY OF LATE. SO WHERE IT IS THAT YOU'RE SEEING, I CAN GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE THAT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM HERE. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE DRIVEN BY IT EVERY SINGLE DAY AND WATCHED THEM GROW TO A POINT. THERE WERE 13 FOOD TRUCKS OUT THERE AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WHICH REALLY CAUSED STAFF TO SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT TO BACK THIS UP A LITTLE BIT AND TRY TO GET A HANDLE OR SOME CONTROLS ON THIS. WHY WE'RE HERE FOR THIS WORK SESSION IS TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH THESE ELEMENTS. 
          STAFF. STAFF HAD JUST SAID, WELL, HEY, WHAT WE DO WITH ACCESSORY USES IN OTHER AREAS IS THAT WE REDUCE THAT TO A 50% LESS THAN THE PRIMARY USE OF THE BUILDING. SO WE TAKE IN ALL OF THE AREA THAT THEY WOULD BE OCCUPYING, NOT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FOOD TRUCK, BUT THE FOOD TRUCK, THE SPACES, IF THEY HAVE PICNIC TABLES, TRASH CANS, ALL OF THAT AREA. SO STAFF IS NOW ACTIVELY MONITORING ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF SETUPS TO SAY, IS THIS AN ACCESSORY USE, OR ARE THEY GETTING TO THE POINT THAT IT WOULD BE A FOOD TRUCK COURT? ACTUALLY, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FROM THIS BODY? OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE MONITORING OKAY. SO YOU'RE MONITORING THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE PAF. IS PAF THE SAME AS THE WHAT I'M DESCRIBING THE PAF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING. SO THAT'S MOST OF THE PUBLICLY OR THE CITY OWNED LAND FALLS WITHIN THE PAF ZONING. OKAY. I WILL DEFINITELY GO WITH I WANT THE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. SO I WANT TO COMMENT THAT WHEN THERE WAS AN OCCASION WHERE A CONSTITUENT WAS HAVING A PROBLEM WITH EXCESSIVE NOISE FROM A FROM A FOOD TRUCK, JUMPED ON IT RIGHT AWAY AND GOT IT SORTED OUT. AND I APPRECIATE 
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THAT. IT'S STILL UNCLEAR TO ME WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. JUST THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SOMETHING DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S A BAD THING. YOU KNOW, THERE'S FOUR GROCERY STORES ON UNIVERSITY AVENUE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, OR UNIVERSITY DRIVE, I GUESS PEOPLE WANT GROCERY STORES, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S ADDING TO THE VARIETY AND INTEREST, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE? I THINK WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET COUNCIL'S DIRECTION RATHER THAN STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS, TRYING TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE A SOLUTION TO BE, TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO MANAGE AT SOME POINT IF, IF WE WERE TO GO UNCHECKED, I.E, THAT THE GAS STATION COULD HAVE 40 FOOD TRUCKS IN THERE AND THEY COULD OPERATE HOWEVER THEY'RE OPERATING. SO WE HAVE ZERO CONSTRAINTS. WE'RE JUST WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO MANAGE PARKING SPACES, SAFETY, NOISE, ELEMENTS OF SANITATION. SO JUST ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT GO TO IT TO PUT SOME GUARDRAILS, NOT TO MAKE EXHAUSTIVE RULES. WE'RE TRYING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF ENTREPRENEURS AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT AT LEAST HAVE SOME SORT OF GUARDRAILS AND GIVE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL STAFF, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, WE WANT TO DO THIS. WE WANT TO EXPAND FOOD TRUCKS, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR THAT GUIDANCE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SET PRECEDENTS AS WE GO FORWARD. YEAH, I MEAN, SO FAR I'M NOT HEARING THAT EVEN WHEN THERE ARE A LOT YOU'RE NOT HEARING THAT YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH. I MEAN, THERE ARE RULES ALREADY FOR HEALTH, FOR NOISE, YOU KNOW, FOR SAFETY, FOR NOT PARKING. WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK. I MEAN, ALL THAT STUFF EXISTS. SO I MEAN, I AND YOU ALSO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING WOULDN'T CHANGE ANY PARTICULAR BEHAVIOR THAT EXISTS TODAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M LIKE A LITTLE THE ONLY THING THAT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE ACTIONABLE IS THIS BUSINESS OF, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE AN SUP STAGE. THIS IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. 
          AS I HEAR IT, THERE SHOULD BE AN SUP STAGE. IF SOMEBODY REALLY WANTS TO CREATE A PARK AROUND IT. AND I GUESS I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, OKAY. BUT I DON'T REALLY GET IT, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. BUT I DON'T HATE IT. BUT I DO HAVE ONE KIND OF LINGERING QUESTION. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO THE OLD FASHIONED ICE CREAM TRUCK THAT WENT INTO NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE IN THE SUMMER, WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT BECAUSE THEY STILL OPERATE TODAY. SO. BUT BUT THEY WOULD BE IN NON THEY'D BE EXPLICITLY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, RIGHT. TYPICALLY THEY OPERATE THERE. 
          THEY'RE NOT A STATIONARY VEHICLE OPERATING IN THAT CAPACITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT STATIONARY THAT IT WOULDN'T FALL UNDER THIS BECAUSE YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT SET UP IN A TRADITIONAL SENSE OKAY. BECAUSE THEY STOP OBVIOUSLY WHEN THEY'RE SERVING, YOU KNOW. BUT ALL RIGHT, WELL ASK AND ANSWER. AND MACK, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO MY COMMENTS IN THAT. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. THANKS. I'M GOING TO PICK UP WHERE MAYOR PRO TEM LEFT OFF. I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE ICE CREAM TRUCK. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND AND I WERE TALKING. I GO TO A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION SITES, AND OFTENTIMES I SEE THE FOLKS IN THE TACO TRUCKS AND THEY PULL UP AND THEY FEED THE GUYS BREAKFAST AND LUNCH AND SOMETIMES AFTER HOURS FOR DINNER. SO I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT WOULD GO IN THE CODE. BUT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, SINCE THEY OFTEN TRAVEL AROUND NOT JUST DENTON, BUT DFW, THIS IS NOT AIMED TO LIMIT THOSE FOLKS OPPORTUNITIES, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND I APPRECIATE ONCE AGAIN, MAYOR PRO TEM A COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW, I, I DIDN'T GIVE DIRECTION BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS I AGREE. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, MR. JESTER. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW MUCH REVENUE WE'RE COLLECTING HERE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS. SO UNLESS THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, OR MY DIRECTION AT THIS POINT AT THIS TIME IS TO NOT MOVE FORWARD. AND LAST THING I'LL SAY IS, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE. LET ME ASK THIS BEFORE. BEFORE I SAY, LET ME ASK, HAVE WE TALKED TO ANY FOOD TRUCKS ABOUT THIS? YOU GO. SO YOU GO TO FOOD TRUCKS ON THE ON THE DAILY. WHAT'S THE DISCUSSION ABOUT. HEY, COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT DOING SOME THINGS. THIS IS HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT YOU IS THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING. YES, SIR. THEY ARE. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE WERE CONTINUING ON THE WAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UNLESS WE GET DIRECTION OTHERWISE, DO THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING? THERE'S NOT REALLY A CHANGE THAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD THAT THAT WOULD REALLY BE A CHANGE FOR THEM. IF COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION TODAY, THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEN WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE TALKING WITH THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW, OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. SO THEN, MAYOR, MY DIRECTION IS TO NOT MOVE FORWARD, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE 
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THEY'VE GOT TO BE AT THE TABLE. THESE FOLKS ARE BUSINESS OWNERS. THEY'VE GOT TO BE AT THE TABLE THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY WANT TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS, IF ANY CHANGE IS GOING TO COME TO THEIR BUSINESS. SO MY DIRECTION AT THIS TIME IS TO NOT MOVE FORWARD. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. MR. MAYOR. 
          REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE I AM GOING TO I'M GOING TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US AND THE, YOU KNOW, OCCURRENCES THAT ARE HAPPENING TO US VERY QUICKLY WITH THE GROWTH. AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE ON THE SIDE OF BEING PROACTIVE AND SETTING BOUNDARIES AND WORKING THROUGH THOSE TYPES OF BOUNDARIES THAN TO COME TO FIND THAT EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH OUT OF CONTROL. YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ALLUDING TO THE FACT OF OUR, YOU KNOW, RENTAL SITUATION THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          WE'RE COMING BACK AND TRYING TO CATCH UP. I WOULD MUCH RATHER US BE A PROACTIVE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE CAN SEE THAT IT'S COMING, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE. AND IF WE SEEM AS THOUGH. YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL OUT THERE IN A WILD, WILD WEST TYPE, YOU HAVE FOOD TRUCKS ANYWHERE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE CHASING THOSE FOLKS. THE OTHER DAY, I SAW A GENTLEMAN PULL UP IN A PARKING LOT WITH A BARBECUE SMOKER JUST HANGING OUT, SELLING SANDWICHES IN A IN A PARKING LOT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES ALL OF THAT COME FROM? SO SHORT OF CALLING THE CITY RIGHT AWAY OR, YOU KNOW, GETTING ON THE ENGAGED IN NAP AND, YOU KNOW, CALLING THESE PEOPLE IN THAT'S DOING THAT TYPE OF THING, AT LEAST THERE COULD BE SOME BUZZ OUT THERE THAT THE CITY IS, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE MONITORING AND WE'RE WATCHING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE THAN WAITING IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE TEACHING A CHILD TO READ. 
          YOU GOT TO GET STARTED SOMEWHERE. SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER DIRECTION? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE AT THIS TIME. OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE? YEAH, I'M. I'M GOING TO CLARIFY MY POSITION. I THINK IT'S UNNECESSARY REGULATION. I THINK GOING AFTER THE EXISTING HEALTH, SAFETY, PARKING, ETC, EVERYTHING WE HAVE, LIKE ALL KINDS OF WARRANTED. BUT I THINK THIS IS A LOT OF A GOOD THING HAPPENING. AND THIS IS UNNECESSARY REGULATION IN MY OPINION. SO I'M ON THE DON'T GO FORWARD MAYOR. GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. YES, YES YES SIR. I WOULD JUST WANT TO ADD ONE PIECE. WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPANDING SOME OF WHERE THESE ARE ALLOWED TO BE USED. SO A LOT OF THIS IS BENEFIT. THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE MAYBE WHAT YOU MIGHT PERCEIVE AS DETRIMENTAL OR THE GUARDRAILS, IS THAT IT LIMITS THE NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS OR FOOD MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS IN A SINGLE LOCATION. IT DOESN'T PREVENT THEM FROM BEING UTILIZED ALL OVER. THIS WILL ACTUALLY EXPAND WHERE IT IS THEY'RE ABLE TO BE USED BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME LIMITS TODAY, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER ELEMENTS IN THERE THAT ARE BENEFICIAL. SO THE ONLY WHAT WHAT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM A COUPLE IS THE ONLY GUARDRAILS THAT WE PUT IN IS THAT ONE GAS STATION, INSTEAD OF THEM HAVING 20 FOOD TRUCKS OUT THERE AT 9:00 AT NIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THE AREA THAT THEY HAVE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN SIX FOOD TRUCKS. THAT THAT REALLY IS WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO. SO JUST FOR CLARITY AND AGAIN, THERE'S SOME BENEFICIAL ITEMS IN THERE. AND IF COUNCIL IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS TO NOT LIMIT THEM THEN THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE CAN GO. IT'S SOMEWHAT SILENT ON IT TODAY. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. THANKS FOR THOSE COMMENTS SCOTT. 
          WHAT I WANT TO HEAR IN ORDER FOR ME TO MOVE FORWARD IS I WANT A ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH FOOD TRUCK OWNERS SO THAT THEY CAN TELL US THAT THEY WANT US TO DO THIS. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH. 
          SO. LOTS OF THOUGHTS. BUT TO PARE IT DOWN. IS THERE A OR. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMISSARY. IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE FLOW THROUGH OR CAPACITY. ONE COMMISSARY CAN SUPPORT X AMOUNT OF TRUCKS. DO WE IS THERE IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR IS OKAY? I'M NOT AWARE OF. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY DIRECTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND 
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HERE'S WHY. ONE WE IT'S INTERESTING FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES, THE HOTELIERS RAISED THE ISSUE ABOUT TAXES AND HOTEL TAXES. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. WHICH THEN INSTITUTED A CONVERSATION AND ULTIMATELY AN ORDINANCE REGULATING. AIRBNBS SO THAT THEY'RE PAYING THEIR TAXES AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS. IT'S ALMOST PARALLEL TO ME WHERE YOU'RE TRUING UP THE ACTIVITIES OF THESE SMALLER GROUPS VERSUS ESTABLISHED ENTITIES. AND TO THAT END, I WANT TO STAND AND BE VERY CLEAR THAT I STAND ON THE SIDE OF BUSINESSES THAT INVEST IN BRICK AND MORTAR IN OUR IN OUR CITY, THAT ARE PAYING TAXES IN OUR CITY. I FEEL WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THAT. AND I FEEL LIKE IGNORING THE FACT THAT, LET'S SAY DOWNTOWN, A BUSINESS IS PAYING A PREMIUM CAN THEN THEN BE CIRCUMVENTED BY SOMEONE THAT'S DRIVING A TRUCK THAT PARKS IN FRONT OF THEIR RESTAURANT AND TRIES TO TAKE WHATEVER BUSINESS THEY HAVE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE, ONE IN THAT THEY'RE NOT PAYING THE SAME, SO THEIR COST COULD BE LOWER, AND THEN TWO, THEY'RE NOT PAYING TAXES, AND DENTON POTENTIALLY. SO SOME CARROLLTON BENEFITS FROM SOMEONE PARKING IN FRONT OF BARLEY AND BOARD IN DENTON. THAT JUST SEEMS WRONG. AND IT SEEMS WRONG NOT TO PRIORITIZE BUSINESSES THAT PAY TAXES AND INVEST IN BRICK AND MORTAR IN THE CITY OF DENTON. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. THAT'S THE STORY WE TELL PEOPLE GO FROM THE COMMUNITY MARKET TO BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES WE DON'T TALK TO. WE DON'T TELL THE STORY OF SOMEONE THAT CAME IN AND CIRCUMVENTED OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. SO I CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH UNCHECKED JUST NUMBER OF PEOPLE. AND ALSO IN THE REGULATION IT TALKS ABOUT, THE TRUCK HAS TO MOVE, RIGHT? LIKE HOW DO WE NOT GET ON BOARD WITH THAT? HOW DO WE YOU GOT TO GO TO A COMMISSARY, BUT YOUR TRUCK DOESN'T MOVE, AND WE'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO TURN A BLIND EYE AND SAY, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SO FOR A REGULATION STANDPOINT, IT MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE TRUCK TO TAKE IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. AND THOSE ARE THE DETAILS THAT I THINK ARE GETTING MISSED. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE SEE PAST THAT, BUT THAT'S FINE. AND SO THEN JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE I CERTAINLY WELCOME ANY INPUT FROM ANYONE THAT OWNS A FOOD TRUCK, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S, THAT GOES ACROSS ALL ALL BUSINESSES, ALL OPTIONS. AND I DON'T I DON'T MAKE DECISIONS THAT WAY. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHO'S THE LOUDEST OR THOSE SORT OF THINGS CERTAINLY TAKE INPUT. AND I'VE CERTAINLY VALUED AND WEIGHED THAT INPUT ACCORDINGLY. AND THERE'S DECISIONS MADE THAT DON'T ALIGN WITH THAT INPUT, DECISIONS MADE THAT DO ALIGN WITH THAT WITH INPUT WHEN WE GET IT. BUT ULTIMATELY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE MY GUIDING DECISION. MY GUIDING DECISION IS GOING TO BE SAFETY OF PEOPLE AND HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND I CAN'T AND PEOPLE TO INVEST IN THE CITY OF DENTON PAY TAXES IN THE CITY OF DENTON. THAT'S WHO I'M GOING TO PRIORITIZE. AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRUE UP THOSE THINGS NO DIFFERENT THAN AIRBNBS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE WORK THAT STAFF'S DONE. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT TO SEE THAT THOSE SALES TAX NUMBERS AND BEGIN TO DRILL IN ON THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THOSE THINGS AND PUT THEM ON AS, EVEN AS GROUND AS POSSIBLE WITH THE BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES THAT ARE INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE TO LEASE PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND GROW THEIR BUSINESS THAT WAY AND NOT JUST SWOOP IN ON A WEEKEND. I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT. 31 DAYS OF HALLOWEEN. WE COULD BE INUNDATED, RIGHT? IF WE DON'T CHECK THIS. EVERYONE'S WATCHED THE NUMBERS LAST YEAR. ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS EVERYWHERE. NOT ONE BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN HERE ALL YEAR BENEFITS BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING KNEECAPPED BY PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN FOR THE WEEKEND. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S WRONG. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID. VERY DETAILED REPORT. AND BY MY COUNT, YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THAT 
          [B. Receive a report and hold a discussion on the Denton Police Department Annual Update and 2024 Annual Report.
    [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]
TAKES US TO ITEM B I'D 25151 RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION ON THE DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL UPDATE AND 2024 ANNUAL REPORT. PLEASE. BE THE PART ONE. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. DEREK BRADFORD, 
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DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE FOR DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT, I HAVE THE PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL UPDATE FOR 2024. SO I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. I'VE GOT A SCREEN HERE WITH HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHOW OFF FOR YOU THAT IN 2024, WE ESTABLISHED A TEAM OF AUXILIARY RECRUITERS. YOU MAY KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE SERGEANT AND TWO OFFICERS THAT ARE THE PRIMARY RECRUITERS AND BACKGROUND INVESTIGATORS. FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ALL LEVELS. AND WE SET UP A TEAM OF 16 OFFICERS ALL ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT, DIVERSE IN THEIR BACKGROUNDS, PERSONALLY, AS DIVERSE AS THEIR BACKGROUNDS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO GO OUT AND REACH OUT TO DIFFERENT PLACES, PEOPLE, COLLEGE CAMPUSES, BUSINESSES, CAREER FAIRS, ETC. TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, COME TO DENTON, WE'RE HIRING AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON AND WE'VE SEEN THAT BE REALLY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE WE TOOK WHAT WAS JUST THREE PEOPLE WHO HAD THAT DEDICATED TO FULL TIME AND SPREAD THAT ACROSS 16 INDIVIDUALS, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND IT'S WORKED OFF, WORKED OUT REALLY WELL. WE REVAMPED OUR PEER SUPPORT TEAM TO INCLUDE COMPLETELY KIND OF TAKING THAT TO THE GROUND, HAVING EVERYBODY WHO'S STILL INTERESTED IN BEING A PEER SUPPORT TEAM MEMBER REAPPLY THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND GO THROUGH TRAINING, AND THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT EXISTS THAT IF A EMPLOYEE FEELS THAT THEY NEED SOME HELP WITH ANYTHING GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES, YOU KNOW, FROM WORK, FROM PERSONAL STUFF, ETC. AND THIS INCLUDES BOTH OUR SWORN MEMBERS AS OFFICERS, BUT AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF ARE ELIGIBLE TO SEEK OUT PEER SUPPORT. SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT PROGRAM. AND ANOTHER THING WE DID WAS HOLD AN OPEN HOUSE EVENT FOR ANYBODY THAT WAS INTERESTED IN BECOMING PART OF THE DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT TEAM, WHERE WE OPENED OUR DOORS AND WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM SEVERAL OF OUR AUXILIARY UNITS AND SPECIALIZED UNITS TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE CAREER OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU COULD SEE AT DENTON PD. FOR ANYBODY THAT MAY BE INTERESTED, THAT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. WE HAD NOTHING BUT PRAISE COMING BACK FROM THE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN CAREERS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND IT'S SOMETHING WE PLAN ON CONTINUING DOING. WE LAUNCHED OUR CHIEF'S GRADUATION RUN AND A MONTHLY RUNS WITH THE RECRUITS IN OUR ACADEMY, MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF SOME OF OUR SOME OF OUR OFFICERS WHO HADN'T BEEN RUNNING, MYSELF INCLUDED. BUT I'M OUT THERE RUNNING WITH THEM NOW, AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT, GREAT WAY FOR US TO BOND WITH THOSE OFFICERS AS THEY'RE COMING IN, SEEN A LOT OF CAMARADERIE AND SUPPORT SHOWN TO THEM. WE JUST GRADUATED BACK 2021 THIS PAST TWO WEEKS AGO, AND A LOT OF SUCCESS THERE WITH 21. WE HOSTED OUR VERY FIRST ACADEMY FAMILY NIGHT WHERE WE ANYBODY WHO WAS COMING, NOT JUST OURS, AS YOU KNOW, WE RUN THE REGIONAL POLICE ACADEMY, SO WE HAVE SOME OTHER AGENCIES THAT COME AND JOIN FOR THE BPOC, THE EXCUSE ME, BASIC POLICE OFFICERS COURSE AND APPLIED POLICE SCIENCES. IT'S THE ACADEMY, THE VERY FIRST STINT INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND WE HAD THEIR FAMILIES INVITED. WE BROKE BREAD WITH THEM. WE TOLD THEM, HEY, THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU CAN EXPECT YOUR LOVED ONE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS ON INTO THEIR CAREER. YOU MIGHT SEE SOME CHANGES IN THEM. 
          HERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT THEM AS THEY START THIS NEW CAREER PATH, AS WELL AS OFFERED SUPPORT TO THEM TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOME THINGS HAPPENING TO YOU AS YOUR LOVED ONE IS GOING THROUGH THIS. SO HERE'S SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE YOURSELF GOING THROUGH. AND IT JUST, AGAIN, WAS A REALLY GREAT WAY TO GET OUR GET OUR CAMARADERIE BUILT IN FROM THE BEGINNING AND THE GET GO. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          ONE THING I DID WANT TO MENTION ON THE AUXILIARY RECRUITER TEAM IS THAT THE PAST TWO CIVIL SERVICE TESTS, WE'VE SET RECORD NUMBERS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. SO THAT WAS IN MY OPINION, THAT'S A DIRECT CORRELATION TO GOING OUT THERE AND PUTTING OUR NAMES OUT THERE MORE OFTEN WITH MORE GUSTO WITH THAT TEAM. SO THAT'S BEEN VERY EXCITING TO SEE IN OUR AGENCY SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE IN 2024, WE PARTNERED WITH PROJECT BELOVED AND FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH. THEY INSTALLED TWO SOFT INTERVIEW ROOMS IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, ONE AT HQ, DOWN ON DOWN OVER HERE, AND THEN ONE AT OUR SUBSTATION PROJECT. BELOVED, I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT. IT'S A NONPROFIT THAT WAS STARTED BY A MOTHER WHOSE CHILD WAS MURDERED, AND SHE TURNED THAT TRAGEDY INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE, WHERE THAT THE TRAUMA INFORMED RESPONSE AND INVESTIGATION STARTS WITH HOW THE PERSON IS TREATED WHEN THEY COME TO REPORT A CRIME. AND RATHER THAN HAVING A STALE, STERILIZED INTERVIEW ROOM THAT'S JUST CHAIRS, A DESK AND A WHITE WALL, WE NOW HAVE THIS THE I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SAY THE ONLY THING WE'RE CHARGED IS THE COST TO PAINT FOR THE WALL. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE IS SUPPLIED BY THE NONPROFIT AND THEIR SPONSORS. SO A HUGE, HUGE THING FOR US. THAT'S AGAIN, JUST A GREAT THING TO BE A PART OF. WE ALSO, WITH Y'ALL'S SUPPORT, UPDATED THE TOWING ORDINANCE. THAT WAS A MAJOR LEGISLATIVE CHANGE FOR THE CITY AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, TO HELP US GO THROUGH THAT AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. WE ALSO HELD OUR CHIEF'S POLICE ADVISORY BOARDS. WE HAD THREE OF THOSE IN 2024. TO DATE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO RECOMMENDATIONS ISSUED THAT YEAR. PRESENTATIONS INCLUDED EVERYTHING ON LEGAL UPDATES THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL SEE THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE, ETC. TO A UNIT OVERVIEW SO THAT THEY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF OUR SPECIALIZED AND AUXILIARY UNITS DO. OUR NEXT MEETING IS LATER THIS MONTH ON APRIL 23RD, AND THE TOPIC BEING PRESENTED THAT 
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NIGHT IS HOMELESSNESS INITIATIVES. I'M GOING TO GET INTO SOME NUMBERS HERE. I DO WANT TO REMIND STAFF, EXCUSE ME, REMIND COUNCIL THAT STAFF WE HAD A PRINT DEADLINE VERSUS A DATA RECONCILIATION DEADLINE. SO ONE OF THE NUMBERS IN THE UPCOMING SLIDES IS CHANGED JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY THERE. SO I'M REALLY SOME THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. WE HAD EIGHT FATAL ACCIDENTS IN 2024. THAT'S A 50% DECREASE FROM 2023. I'D LOVE TO SAY THAT IT'S SOLELY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSE AND INITIATIVES, BUT HONESTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WE HAVE ALL THE DATA ON THE CRASHES, BUT THERE'S NO ONE THING THAT WE CAN SAY. THIS IS WHAT DROVE THAT DOWN. BUT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT FACT. I THINK IT'S AN OVERALL ENCOMPASSING FACTOR OF CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, CITIZEN BEING EDUCATED OFFICERS OUT THERE, PROACTIVELY POLICING THE STREETS. AS YOU CAN SEE, 884 DWI ARRESTS, ETC. I WON'T READ THEM ALL OFF TO YOU, BUT THEIR NUMBERS ARE THERE FOR YOU. AND THEN HERE'S OUR TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE. BOTH OFFICER INITIATED AND DISPATCHED. LET YOU LOOK AT THOSE FOR JUST A MOMENT THERE. 
          AND I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO BACK UP ONE SLIDE. I DID WANT TO MENTION IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, THERE ARE 133,256 TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE IS ACTUALLY FEWER THAN IN 2023, WHEN WE HAD 140,730. WE THINK THAT THAT'S DUE TO SEVERAL FACTORS. WE'VE BUILT IN SOME EFFICIENCIES WITH CALLS BEING GENERATED IN THE PAST. THE CITIZEN MAY CALL IN TO DISPATCH AND SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO SET A CLOSE PATROL AT MY ADDRESS AND THERE BE NO REAL REASON FOR IT. 
          THEY MAY FEEL THAT THEY JUST WANT OFFICERS TO COME BY AND NOTHING WAS VETTED. SO WE, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHED A LITTLE PROCEDURE WHERE AN OFFICER SPEAKS TO THE INDIVIDUAL, GETS CLARIFICATION. IS THIS A VACATION WATCH? HAVE YOU BEEN HARASSED? IS THERE SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE MORE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAN JUST I WANT EXTRA PATROL, ETC? SO THAT'S A POTENTIAL REASON THAT SOME OF THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICES WENT DOWN. LOOKING AHEAD INTO 2025 AND DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT ARE IN PROGRESS. FIRST, WE'RE STILL PURSUING OUR POLICE REACCREDITATION THROUGH THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING PERSONAL NOTE THAT I'M REALLY PROUD OF BECAUSE WE CAN STAND AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE MET EVERY SINGLE TENANT THAT THE TPC HAS SAID. YOU NEED TO HAVE TO BE AN ACCREDITED AGENCY. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR OFFICERS AND OUR, OUR, OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT HELP US SUPPORT, THAT CAN STAND PROUD. ON NUMBER TWO, CREATE POLICE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT AND SUCCESSION PROGRAM. SO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE FOUND IN OUR HISTORY AT DENTON PD THAT IS A LITTLE BIT LACKING IS SUCCESSION MANAGEMENT. ONCE ONCE A STAFF MEMBER RETIRES, LEAVES TO GO PURSUE ANOTHER CAREER, ETC. THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON WHERE DOES THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE GET PLACED, GET TRAINED ON FOR THE NEXT PERSON TO COME UP? EXCUSE ME. SO WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AT A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED AND EFFICIENT WAY. I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD JUST A LITTLE BIT TO NUMBER FIVE, BECAUSE THOSE PAIR WELL WITH EACH OTHER. ONE OF OUR OTHER STRATEGIC INITIATIVES IS TO ENHANCE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP CAPABILITIES AND EFFECTIVENESS. AND WE'VE TASKED OUR TRAINING UNIT WITH A PROJECT TO COME UP WITH KIND OF I'VE LIKENED IT TO LIKE TAKING A COLLEGE CLASS. YOU'VE GOT REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU NEED TO MEET YOUR DEGREES, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE ELECTIVES THAT CAN HELP SUPPORT WHATEVER YOUR REQUIRED STUDIES ARE. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO BE A LEADER IN THE SIDE OF THE CITY OF DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT, THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE REQUIRED CLASSES THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE. OUR COMMISSIONING BODY, TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT TCOLE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF HOURS. THAT IS IN LEADERSHIP TRAINING ONCE YOU PROMOTE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT BECAUSE WE WANT OUR OFFICERS AND OUR LEADERS AND OUR AGENCIES TO BE BETTER THAN JUST AVERAGE. SO WE'VE WE'VE TASKED THE TRAINING UNIT WITH SETTING UP BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, AND IT'S COMING ON INTO A LEARNING MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. DEVELOP EFFECTIVE POLICE RECRUITMENT STRATEGIES. NOT ONLY DID YOU SEE THE AUXILIARY RECRUITMENT TEAM IN 2024 AND THE OTHER LITTLE HIGHLIGHTS, WE'RE EXPANDING UPON THAT, SEEKING OUT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT NEW MEDIA CAN HELP US WITH ADVERTISEMENT, WITH GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE THAT WE'RE MISSING, IF WE'RE JUST SENDING OUT FACEBOOK MESSAGES AND TWITTER MESSAGES, ETC. ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS INCREASE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGH STRATEGIC INITIATIVES. YOU MIGHT KNOW SEVERAL OF Y'ALL WERE THERE, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. BUT WE'VE STARTED OUR COMMUNITY TOWN HALLS. WE HAD OUR FIRST ONE IN FEBRUARY. AGAIN, NOTHING BUT PRAISE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS THERE ABOUT THAT. AND WE HOPE TO GROW THAT SO THAT IT BECOMES SOMETHING MORE KNOWN SO THAT WE HAVE MORE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AS THOSE CONTINUE ON AND WE'RE GOING TO HOST THOSE EVERY QUARTER. SO THERE'LL BE FOUR A YEAR. AND THAT CALENDAR IS IT'S NOT IN THE ANNUAL REPORT, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT TO YOU IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT. AND THEN WE COVERED FIVE. NUMBER SIX IS INCREASED COMMUNITY I'M SORRY I, WE COVERED FIVE TALKED ABOUT SIX AND THEN SEVEN WERE INSTALLING THOSE SAFETY CAMERAS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING US SET UP WITH THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL. SO THAT KIND OF CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION HERE. YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE THE STRATEGIC PLAN ON OUR 
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DASHBOARD. IF YOU WANTED TO CLICK THROUGH THAT IN THE DIGITAL VERSION. AND AT THIS POINT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. SO I WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE POLICE CHIEF'S ADVISORY BOARD AND THIS THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. AND SO I'VE ASKED THIS SORT OF QUESTION BEFORE. AND THAT IS IT'S OFTEN REPORTED THERE'S, THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF THE BOARD. AND, AND I AND I GUESS IS THERE ANY GUIDING SENTIMENT, ANY GUIDING DIRECTION. IT HAPPENED YOU KNOW, IN PREVIOUS POLICE CHIEFS AND I'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION BEFORE. I'M REALLY CURIOUS WHAT THE INTERACTION WITH THE BOARD AND THE FEEDBACK THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GETTING FROM THE BOARD AND HOW IT'S GUIDING THEIR, THEIR ACTIONS. AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO JUDGE THAT WHEN I HEAR THAT THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATIONS. SO CAN YOU SEE A LITTLE COLOR ON THAT AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND? YES, I KNOW THAT ANY. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. ANY TIME THAT A BODY IS PRESENTED, THEY HAVE A MISSION, AND THEIR MISSION IS TO SEE WHAT WE DO AND ADVISE IF THEY THINK WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, WHICH WOULD BE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO THE INTERACTION WITH THEM IS THAT THEY SET THE AGENDA. THEY SAY, WE WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ALL DO ON A DAILY BASIS. ET CETERA. AND SO WHEN WE EXPLAIN TO THEM, HERE'S THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO OR THAT HAVE TO DO, HERE ARE THE THINGS WE DO TYPICALLY ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. SO I THINK THE NO RECOMMENDATIONS IS A COMMENT IN THE POSITIVE THAT THEY HAVEN'T SAID, HEY, YOU'RE YOU'RE LACKING HERE. WE THINK Y'ALL SHOULD DO BETTER HERE. WE REPORT BACK THAT THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE IF THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE NEED TO REPORT THEM TO YOU ALL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE A LITTLE? I THINK THAT HELPS ME. I STILL GUESS I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT NOT NOT FOR THE FOR YOU. THE SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP ME IN THE FUTURE. ON SLIDE SIX, WHERE YOU HAD THE STATISTICS, THE ONES WHERE YOU HAD YEAR OVER YEAR STATISTICS ARE SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU CAN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND TRENDS. YES, SIR. IT UNLESS WE HAPPEN TO RECALL OR LOOK BACK AT LAST YEAR'S POLICE REPORT, IT'S CHALLENGING TO KNOW WHAT WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE 500 OF SOMETHING OR 600 OF SOMETHING IF WE DON'T KNOW THE CONTEXT. SO JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, I'D LOVE TO HAVE THE CONTEXT. YES, SIR, IN FUTURE REPORTS. AND THEN I DID HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. I NOTICED ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE MOVING INTO TO STREAMLINE REPORTING THE DRAFT ONE, FACILITATING SOFTWARE. IS THERE. 
          HOW WELL IS THAT BEING RECEIVED IN THE COMMUNITY? ARE THERE PROS AND CONS THAT OTHER, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE OBSERVED? YOU KNOW, GIVE ME A LITTLE SENSE OF WHERE THAT'S LANDING. SURE THING. TO DATE, ALL OF IT HAS BEEN PROS. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, DRAFT ONE IS THE AI POWERED NARRATIVE ASSISTANCE WRITER FROM AXON, THE EVIDENCE.COM PROGRAM THAT WE'VE GOT. WE LAUNCHED IT IN EARLY MARCH, AND SO OFFICERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE IT HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY, YES, HELP ME WRITE, ESSENTIALLY TELLING EVIDENCE.COM, HELP ME WRITE THIS. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT OFFICERS WHO ARE ENGAGING IN THAT ARE SAVING THEIR OWN HOURS BY UTILIZING THAT AI DRAFT SOFTWARE, AND IT'LL TAKE THE TRANSCRIPT RECORDED FROM THEIR BODY CAMERA POINTING TO MINE. USUALLY IT'S RIGHT HERE. TAKE THE TRANSCRIPT THAT'S WRITTEN FROM THEIR BODY, OR EXCUSE ME, TAKE THE TRANSCRIPT FROM THE AUDIO FROM THEIR BODY CAMERA AND WRITE OUT AN AI POWERED NARRATIVE. AND ANECDOTALLY, AXON SAYS YOU CAN EXPECT TO SAVE ABOUT 30% OF YOUR OFFICER'S TIME WRITING A REPORT. WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. I DON'T HAVE THE STATISTICS BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN A MONTH RUNNING OUT, BUT THE OFFICERS THAT'S BEEN HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT. THERE IS A LITTLE HESITATION JUST BECAUSE IT WAS UNKNOWN. AND IT'S A NEW THING. AND AS ANYBODY YOU KNOW, CHANGE IS BAD UNTIL YOU REALIZE IT'S GOOD. SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF POSITIVE STUFF ON THAT. AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T HAVE A PULSE ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS ABOUT IT. WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY GONE OUT AND GONE AND DEMOED TO THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT USE IT HAVE SPOKE PRAISES. 
          THAT'S HONESTLY PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT DROVE US WAS HOW WELL THEY SOLD IT TO US, NOT AXON, MEANING OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT ARE USING IT. ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE? SO BEFORE I JOIN THE COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL ADOPTED VISION ZERO. SO YOU'RE SAYING SO WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING SAW IT IN THE PRESENTATION THAT LAST YEAR WE HAD MORE OR LESS FATALITIES THAN WE DID IN 23. I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY DUE TO ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE. SO WHAT DOES IT DO TO. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN MY FIRST YEAR ON COUNCIL IS THAT COUNCIL WORKED HARD AND WE LOWERED ALL OF OUR STREET, ALL OF OUR SPEED LIMITS BY FIVE MILES AN HOUR. IS THAT IT? IS IT A COMBINATION OF 
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FACTORS? I MEAN, I'M ASKING YOU TO JUST I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY IF I DID SAY IT WAS NOTHING TO WHAT WE'VE DONE. THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS THAT IT'S NOT ONLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE. YES, SIR, BUT ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL, SEVERAL THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE. THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO SHARE THAT CREDIT IS BASICALLY MY SENTIMENT THERE. WE ALSO DO, AGAIN, FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE OF IT, WE'RE KNOWN LOCALLY AND KIND OF WITHIN THE REGION OF NORTH TEXAS AS BEING VERY DRIVEN AGAINST DWI ENFORCEMENT. SOME SOME AGENCIES SPECIALIZE IN CERTAIN THINGS, BUT ALL ALL OF DENTON PD IS RECOGNIZED AS BEING A VERY HEAVY, NOT HEAVY HANDED. IT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD. PASSIONATE ABOUT ENFORCING DWI. WE JUST DON'T PUT UP WITH IT. THAT INCLUDES OUR LOCAL PROSECUTORS. SOME SOME, SOME COUNTIES DON'T. 
          SOME COUNTIES HAVE A DIFFERENT REPUTATION. SO THERE'S THAT ASPECT OF IT. WHEN I COME WHEN I TALK ABOUT FATALITY ACCIDENTS, A LOT OF THEM IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN DWI. BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER OPTIONS, OTHER THINGS CONTRIBUTING TO THE TO THE SAFETY. THERE WAS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I CAN'T RECALL ALL THE DIFFERENT SPEED LIMIT CHANGES IN DENTON, BUT THIS PAST YEAR AND A HALF THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL THAT HAVE REDUCED IT BASED ON TRAFFIC STUDIES FROM US AS WELL AS TXDOT. SO IT IS CERTAINLY A PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. I WOULD. ANY IDEA ON KNOWING HOW WE'RE DOING SO FAR IN 25. AND THAT'S A ZERO OKAY, ZERO FATALITY ACCIDENTS, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING IF FROM OUR FROM DOCTOR BUTTS OR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, OTHER THREADS WE CAN PULL ON TO CONTINUE FOR THAT NUMBER OF EIGHT TO GO DOWN EVEN LOWER. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION. CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE SEVEN, PLEASE? SO LOOKING AT THE INITIATIVES, I'M VERY HAPPY YOU ALL ARE DOING THIS. BUT BUT I GOT TO SAY IN TERMS OF TWO, THREE, FIVE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT CHIEF ROBLEDO'S PREDECESSOR TALKED ABOUT BEFORE HE WAS EVEN HIRED IN HIS INTERVIEW PROCESS. TO WHAT CAN WE ATTRIBUTE THESE THINGS JUST NOW BEING WORKED ON? I MEAN, HE WAS HERE FOR 18 MONTHS. WE JUST WAS THERE TOO MUCH OTHER THINGS TO DO? I MEAN, I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THEM NOW, BUT I WOULD HAVE HOPED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. WHEN HE TOLD US THESE WERE THINGS WERE GOING TO BE DONE. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS THAT TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. SO WE BEGAN WORKING ON IT IN THAT WE STARTED VETTING DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT PROPOSED TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE THE SOLUTION TO COME IN AND TEACH YOUR LEADERS HOW TO BE BETTER LEADERS. THAT TAKES A LONG, A LONG PROCESS WITH EACH DIFFERENT COMPANY. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO, ON A WHIM OVERNIGHT, DECIDE THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR NEXT LEADERSHIP PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE BRIGHTEST AND SHINIEST BOX. IS THAT FAIR? SO, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD ONE OF OUR TRAINING STAFF MEMBERS. I'M JUST GOING TO USE ONE PARTICULAR EXAMPLE. I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION IT BY NAME, BUT THAT TOOK ABOUT THREE MONTHS FOR HIM TO CONTACT EVERYBODY AT THAT. NOT EVERYONE, BUT PEOPLE THAT WERE PERTINENT AT THAT SPECIFIC TRAINER, AS WELL AS MAKE CONTACT WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WHO HAD USED THEM IN THE PAST FROM CHIEF ON DOWN TO LINE LEVEL OFFICER, BECAUSE THE CHIEF MAY TELL YOU IT'S THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD, BUT THEN YOU TALK TO THE LINE LEVEL OFFICER AND THEY'RE SAYING, WHAT LEADERSHIP TRAINING? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DIFFERENCE. SO WE'RE VETTING THOSE THAT WOULD COME TO TALKING ABOUT LEADERSHIP TRAINING FOR ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES. SO THAT TAKES TIME. THAT PROCESS FOR ONE VENDOR WAS A THREE MONTH PROCESS JUST TO VET THE BACKGROUND, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TRAINING STAFF WHO DOES JUST THAT ALL DAY LONG. THIS THIS IS TRAINING STAFF WHO IS ALSO TRAINING FIREARMS TRAINING, DEFENSIVE TACTICS TRAINING, HANDCUFFING, TRAINING, BPOC. SO IT'S SPLICED IN BETWEEN THAT. SO IT'S IT TAKES TIME BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. OKAY. I WILL ABSOLUTELY ACCEPT THAT. I'M I'M I'M GLAD IT'S HAPPENING. NOW I'M HEARING YOU SAY THERE'S BEEN CONTINUITY. THINGS ARE STARTED. 
          I'M JUST CONTINUING THE TRACK DOWN THE SUCCESSION LINE. OKAY I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. LAST THING. THE SAFETY CAMERAS IS THAT ALREADY BEEN HAS HAS MONEY FOR THAT ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US IN A BUDGET PROCESS? DO WE ALREADY DO YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT IN YOUR IN YOUR EXISTING BUDGET? HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE WE'RE EQUIPPING YOU ALL WITH THESE SAFETY CAMERAS IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. AND I WILL ACCEPT, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME, I THINK YEAH, IT'S BEEN APPROVED AND THAT'S THERE'S NO NEW FUNDING NEEDED FOR THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. THE FLOCK, THIS IS THE CAMERAS THAT IF YOU RECALL, WE JUST SENT YOU ALL SOMETHING ABOUT HOW OUR CAMERAS HELPED ARREST A PERSON FROM OUT OF STATE THEY CAME FROM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE WAS IT, GEORGIA OR SOMEPLACE. AND TO PICK UP THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS A SERIOUS CRIMINAL. SO I THINK THE CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THE NEW MORE COMING. RIGHT. WELL, THERE'S MORE TECHNOLOGY COMING WHEN IT COMES TO THE AXON CONTRACT. AMAZING STUFF. AND I'VE ASKED JESS AND SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE SHE HAD TO 
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TESTIFY AT SOMETHING. BUT I'VE ASKED HER TO COME BACK AND SHARE WITH COUNSEL THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT THIS AXON CAN DO, BESIDES JUST TAKING THE CAMERA AND VERBALIZING WHAT THE OFFICERS ARE SAYING. BUT EVERYTHING TO INCIDENTS, MANAGEMENT AND HOW INSTEAD OF JUST PRACTICING ON YOUR OWN WITH SOMEONE, YOU'RE LITERALLY GETTING SCENARIOS WHETHER SOMEONE HAS MENTAL ILLNESS, SOMEONE THAT'S ON CERTAIN DRUGS, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS. SO IT'S AN AMAZING GROUP OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE NEED TO COME BACK, INCLUDING THE CAMERAS THAT ARE A PART OF THAT. 
          OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY TO KEEP US ALL SAFE. SO THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU BRADFORD. THANK YOU. THANKS, BROCK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX? HI, REPRESENTATIVE JESTER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE NEED TO FILL TO BE AT 100% FULL POSITIONS? 2727 AND WOW, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY WE NEED TO RECRUIT TO BRING IN TO TAKE THE INITIAL TEST, THAT THEN HAVE TO PASS ALL THE OTHER TYPES OF TESTS, WE HAVE TO GET THAT NUMBER. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE. IMAGINATIVE EFFORTS BEING MADE TO RECRUIT, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. WHEN ONE OF THE AREAS OF CALLS WAS JUST SPEAK WITH AN OFFICER, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? DOES SOMEONE WANT TO CALL AND SAY, IS THIS ILLEGAL? OR I MEAN, WHAT IS IT THAT PEOPLE ARE? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR CATCH, OFFICER. THAT'S OUR WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CRIME IF A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED OR IT LITERALLY COULD BE SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO REVEAL THAT CRIME OVER THE TELEPHONE IF THEY'RE THE VICTIM OF A CRIME. SO IT IT STARTS AS A SPEAK WITH OFFICER. THOSE WOULD IF THEY WERE BE DOCUMENTED ELSEWHERE. BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE CATCH ALL RESPONSE IS I'D LIKE TO TALK TO AN OFFICER ABOUT MY SITUATION. SO THAT'S THAT. 
          OTHER THAN GOING INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS, NO, NO, NO LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT THAT WAS JUST KIND OF YEAH. YES, MA'AM. NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT MEANT. I'VE GOT TWO ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS. FIRST, AS AS FAR AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE ADVISORY BOARD, I HAVE NOT SERVED ON THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. HOWEVER, I CAN SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MEAT THERE. WE GET A LOT OF TRAINING FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEGAL COMPLIANCE UNION, AS WELL AS TACTICS. WHAT'S COMING DOWN, WHAT THE PAST HAS LOOKED LIKE HERE. ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE PEOPLE CYCLING ON AND OFF. 
          THERE'S SOMEONE THAT RECENTLY CYCLED ON TO PNC AND SO THEY WERE FILLED BY SOMEONE ELSE. I HAVE RECENTLY APPOINTED SOMEONE THERE. SO YOU DO HAVE SOME LAG TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. AND IN ORDER TO GIVE GOOD INPUT, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DENTON POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN DECIDE ON THEIR OWN WHAT IS DECIDED FOR THEM AT A NATIONAL LEVEL, STATE LEVEL. ET CETERA. AND SO, AT LEAST WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, I CAN TELL YOU THERE WERE VERY HEALTHY CONVERSATIONS. THERE WERE SOME HEATED CONVERSATIONS, SOMETIMES ABOUT INPUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT NO RECOMMENDATIONS MEANS THAT IT'S NOT BEING PRODUCTIVE. IT'S NOT BEING THE CONDUIT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT IS AN ADVISORY BOARD. WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T TASKED WITH. CAN YOU RECOMMEND ON THIS ISSUE, THIS ISSUE, THIS ISSUE. AND AT LEAST WHEN I WAS ON IT, I FELT VERY FREE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND WE HAD GOOD AND BAD INPUT, BUT IT NEVER RESULTED IN A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION. SO I JUST $0.02 ON THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE CLOSED MEETINGS. AND LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO PRAISE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE HAD SOME ROCKY, YOU KNOW, COUPLE OF YEARS, NOT LIKE SOME OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, BUT THE WAY THAT THE WHOLE GROUP HAS RALLIED WITH LEADERSHIP, WITH CHANGES IN LEADERSHIP, THOSE THAT HAVE RETIRED, THERE'S BEEN SOME SHUFFLING AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE INITIATIVES BECAUSE THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF OUR OFFICERS AND ALL OF THE OTHER STAFF AND EMPLOYEES THAT GO ALONG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          THE JOB IS VERY HARD. AND WHAT I WILL SAY IS I, I HEAR SUCH GOOD THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK. WE APPRECIATE YOU AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO KEEP GETTING BETTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE? I HAVE A STATEMENT AND A QUESTION I WANTED TO SHARE, SOMETHING THAT I EXPERIENCED WHEN I WENT TO WAS IN THE POLICE ACADEMY. I WAS THE ONLY FEMALE IN THE POLICE ACADEMY CLASS, AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 30 PEOPLE IN THAT CLASS. AND SO I REMEMBER THE INSTRUCTOR WHEN WE WERE PREPARING TO START, YOU KNOW, 
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LEARNING HOW TO WRITE OUR REPORTS. THE INSTRUCTOR SAID THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE PERSON IN HERE THAT'S GOING TO WRITE TOO MUCH. AND I WASN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY CONNECTING THAT I MIGHT BE THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A PERSON. SO I WASN'T PUTTING IT TOGETHER. AND SURE ENOUGH, I WAS THE ONE THAT WROTE JUST TOO MUCH. AND BECAUSE HE SAID THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WOMEN TYPICALLY ARE MORE VISUAL, SO THEY, YOU KNOW, TEND TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FLOUR IT UP A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S THE WAY THEY EXPLAINED IT BACK IN THE 80S. IN THE 80S, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IMPROPER TO SAY RIGHT NOW. BUT SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE IN WRITING THOSE REPORTS, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THEM TO THE FACTS ONLY. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO LEARN IS JUST TALK, WRITE WHAT YOU KNOW. CORRECT. 
          AND SO BUT I WAS VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND IT DOES SAVE TIME. IT SAVES A LOT OF TIME WHEN YOU WRITE DOWN SOMETHING AND YOU DIDN'T REMEMBER, THE CAMERA CERTAINLY HELPED NOW. BUT YEAH. SO THANK YOU. YOU THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THAT THAT PARTICULAR THING IN. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND YOU ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE I'LL JUST SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HAPPY ABOUT IS THAT THE 311 COMPONENT, I THINK THAT WILL BE GOOD. THAT'S GOOD DATA FOR THOSE THAT ARE TRACKING ALONG. THAT'S UP AND RUNNING. WE'LL HAVE OFFICIAL KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENT THING AND MORE TO COME FROM THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING TO REMEMBER THE POLICE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER AND MAKING SURE IF IT DOES GET TO YOU THAT IT'S THE RIGHT THING AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE SUPPORTING INFORMATION. SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DATA. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS JUST KIND OF A MAYBE A SPIN OFF IN FUTURE REPORTS THAT TALKS ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIME AFTER HOURS OR SOME TYPE OF GROUP. I KNOW WE HAVE THE HOT TEAM FOR THAT, BUT IT'S JUST I DON'T THINK THAT'S 24 HOURS A DAY. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THAT THAT GROUP IS OFF SHIFT AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A NORMAL PATROL. AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING KIND OF IN THAT GAP THAT THEN AND I DON'T KNOW IN OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN MAYBE LEVERAGE OUR, OUR VOLUNTEERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO BUT ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE WHEN YOU LISTED IN YOUR DATA THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE A SEPARATE GROUP OR THERE'S, THERE'S THAT'S, THAT'S IS THAT AN OFFICER THAT COULD BE ON THE STREET WRITING. CORRECT. 
          OFFICERS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS AS WELL. RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, FROM A FROM A PATROL STANDPOINT, DO WE HAVE OFFICERS PATROLLING THAT OR DO WE HAVE A PARKING ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, QUOTE UNQUOTE. SO WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS, WHICH ARE OUR NON-SWORN, CIVIL UNARMED INDIVIDUALS, THAT THEY THEY WOULD BE SENT TO ANY PARKING COMPLAINT PRIMARILY. BUT IF AN OFFICER DOES SEE A VIOLATION THAT THEY THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO. SO PERFECT. PERFECT. YEAH. JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE HOW WE'RE ALLOCATING RESOURCES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE YOUR 
          [C. Receive a report and hold a discussion on the Denton Fire Department Annual Update and 2024 Annual Report.
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TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY THAT TAKES US TO ITEM C ID 25501 RECEIVE REPORT HOLD A HOLD A DISCUSSION ON THE DENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL UPDATE AND 2024 ANNUAL REPORT. ALL RIGHT. SO BRADFORD SET THE BAR PRETTY HIGH, CHIEF. I'M GONNA BE A LOT FASTER. OKAY. CLOCK STARTED. NOT YET. OKAY, LET ME GET IT CUED UP. CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. OKAY. READY? YES. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, KENNETH HEDGES, FIRE CHIEF. SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR 2024 FIRE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT. AND ACTUALLY, I CAN ANNOUNCE RIGHT NOW IT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE. SO WE DIDN'T GO WITH THE PRINTED VERSION. WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE PAPER, BUT, YOU KNOW. SO AND IT STARTS. THERE IT IS. I DO WANT TO START OUT EXACTLY I DO WANT TO START OFF ON THIS FIRST PAGE AND POINT OUT THE LOGO IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. SO ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH THEIR ACCREDITATION PROCESS. AS A REMINDER, WE ARE INTERNATIONALLY ACCREDITED AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS TWO YEARS AGO. IT'S A FIVE YEAR CYCLE. ACTUALLY, THREE YEARS FROM TODAY, WE WILL BE BACK IN FLORIDA SITTING BEFORE THE COMMISSION AGAIN GOING FOR ACCREDITATION AS WELL. SO WE'VE LEARNED A LOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AS OF TODAY, THERE ARE 854 FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WE'RE ONLY ONE OF TEN THAT IS ACTUALLY CFA ACCREDITED AGENCY AS WELL. SO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THAT. SO I THANK MY TEAM. MOVING ON. LET'S START OFF WITH SOME HIGHLIGHTS. MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS FOR 2024 PERIOD IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR RANK OF LIEUTENANT. THIS IS ACTUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH OUR FIREFIGHTER ASSOCIATION AND INCORPORATE THIS NEW RANK STRUCTURE INTO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          THERE IS REALLY A GENESIS OF WHY WE DID THIS AS WELL AS WE PREVIOUSLY HAD A STATION THAT 
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HAD TWO DIFFERENT CAPTAINS. THERE WAS A RANK STRUCTURE ABNORMALITY THERE WHO WAS IN CHARGE. WE HAVE TWO EQUAL OFFICERS WHO'S OVER THE STATION, WHO'S OVER THE CREW. SO WITH THE NEW RANK STRUCTURE OF CAPTAIN, LIEUTENANT, THERE'S A SET HIERARCHY THERE. THE CAPTAIN IS IN CHARGE OF THE STATION. ALL THE CREW, THE LIEUTENANTS IN CHARGE OF HIS OR HER ONE APPARATUS. SO WE IMPLEMENTED THAT IN SUMMER OF THIS LAST YEAR. STATION NINE GRAND OPENING. OBVIOUSLY, THIS HAS BEEN WORK FOR SOME TIME TO THE COUNCIL. I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE DATE, BUT IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AGO, AND IT BROUGHT FORTH RESPONSE TIMES THAT REALLY SHOWED ANYTHING OUTSIDE WESTERN CORRIDOR. I-35 WAS OUTSIDE OUR BENCHMARK OF A FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE TIME. NOW, WITH IMPLEMENTATION, THE STATION GOING ONLINE IN JULY, I CAN SAY THE ENTIRE AREA, THE AIRPORT INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING AREA IS ALL UNDER FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE TIME. SO WE'RE KIND OF HITTING THE GOLD STANDARD FOR OUR NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARDS. ANOTHER BIG ACHIEVEMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS LITERALLY FOR 15 TO 20 YEARS. SO YOU SEE JULY 7TH, THAT IS A MAP THAT SHOWED WE HAD ONE LADDER TRUCK CREW FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, 98MI■!S. YOU SW THAT? THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS EIGHT MINUTE RESPONSE TIME MODEL. SAME THING, KIND OF MIRRORING NFPA 1710, WHICH IS A DEPLOYMENT MODEL, REALLY KIND OF THE BEST PRACTICES. ONE CREW FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. WE WAS ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY PUT THIS CREW IN SERVICE ON JULY 8TH. SO YOU SEE THE VERY NEXT DAY ON HOW THAT EXPANDED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROADWAY, ESPECIALLY 35 W DOWN TO THE SOUTH, 35 NORTH, YOU SEE OUR RESPONSE TIME, WHICH IS AS FOLLOWS. CURRENT ROADWAYS. THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T SEE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS THAT ACTUALLY EXPANDED OUR CAPABILITIES WITH THAT LADDER CREW SIGNIFICANTLY. AND THIS ALSO IS WHAT KIND OF PREEMPTED THE LIEUTENANT. NOW WE HAVE STATIONS ONE AND THREE, HAVE A LADDER TRUCK AND AN ENGINE CREW. SO THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE A CAPTAIN LIEUTENANT RANK STRUCTURE AT THOSE TWO STATIONS NOW. WORKLOAD. HOW BUSY ARE WE IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT. YES, VERY BUSY AND INCREASING AS WELL. AND YOU KIND OF SEE THE TRUE NUMBERS THERE. WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS WELL SINCE 2014, AND OUR PROJECTIONS ARE PRETTY MUCH SPOT ON. SEEING YOU SEE COVID KIND OF THREW US OFF THERE, BUT WE RECOVER VERY FAST IN YEAR 21, 22 AS WELL. AND I'M GOING THROUGH THIS PRETTY FAST. AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, AT THE END WE'LL GET TO QUESTIONS. AND THIS IS ALL IN THE MORE THOROUGH SUMMARY THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW. I ALSO WANT TO KIND OF BENCHMARK. SO YEAH, THAT'S HOW BUSY DENTON IS. 
          BUT LET'S BENCHMARK WITH SOME OTHER CITIES. SO I DID REACH OUT TO THREE COMPARABLE CITIES IN DENTON COUNTY. AND YOU'LL SEE THERE TO THE RIGHT AS WELL. AND I THINK WHAT REALLY SURPRISED ME WAS FRISCO, WITH THE POPULATION OF, YOU KNOW WHAT, 60, 70,000 MORE. THEY HAVE 35 TO 40 MORE SWORN PERSONNEL. DENTON HAS. BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY OUTPERFORMING CALLS FOR SERVICE. ALSO, I DID AFTER I DEVELOPED THIS PRESENTATION. ALREADY SUBMITTED IT. I SAW AN ARTICLE WHERE WACO FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST OPENED THEIR 14TH FIRE STATION, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. SO WE REACHED OUT TO WACO TO SEE, WELL, WHAT'S YOUR SIZE, YOUR CALL FOR VOLUME KIND OF BENCHMARKING OUTSIDE THE METROPLEX AS WELL. THE INTERESTING PART OF THAT IS THEY'RE 100MI■!S. SO JUST TWO ME SQUARE MILES IN THE CITY OF DENTON. AND THEIR CALLS FOR SERVICE WAS ACTUALLY ALMOST 2000, LESS THAN WHAT WE DID FOR 2024. SO WHAT AM I SAYING? WE'RE A VERY BUSY SYSTEM AS WELL AND IT'S NOT GETTING ANY SLOWER. SO THIS KIND OF GOES INTO JUST DIFFERENT TYPE OF CALL TYPES AS WELL. I'LL GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY FAST FIRES BY DISTRICT. 
          WE BREAK IT DOWN. YOU SEE THE OVERALL TOTAL VOLUME DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM, SMALL DECREASE. 
          THERE'S NOTHING SIGNIFICANT ON THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH SMALL DATA SETS. REALLY. THE BIG ONE IS EMS 65 TO 66% OF WHAT WE DO. EVERY CALL IS RELATED TO EMS. SO WE'RE A VERY BUSY EMS SYSTEM. THE JOKES OUT THERE IS WE'RE A FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'RE ALSO AN EMS DEPARTMENT. 
          HAZMAT. THE VARIES YEAR TO YEAR AS WELL. SMALL DECREASE IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CALL TYPE. SO WE HAVE MAJOR CATEGORIES AS HAZMAT. YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT SUB CODES THAT CAN BE INCLUDED THROUGH THE PROCESS. NUMBER ONE HAZMAT IS GAS LEAKS. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS VERY INTERESTING. WE START DIVING TO THE NUMBER SOME AS WELL. I DON'T HAVE THAT HERE 174 175 GAS LEAKS IN LAST YEAR ALONE. SO IT MAKES IT KIND OF START THINKING WHAT IS CAUSING THAT AS WELL. 170, 170 TIMES. WE RESPONDED TO ACTIVE GAS LEAKS LAST YEAR. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S DUE TO CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA. CONTRACTORS HIT THE LINES, WERE CALLED SET STANDBY WHILE THE PROVIDER ACTUALLY REPAIRS THE LEAK. RESCUE. THIS NUMBER DOES SEEM REALLY SIGNIFICANT, BUT ONCE AGAIN, A SMALL DATA SET, A VERY LONG LIST OF CALL TYPES. IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM MVAS REQUIRING EXTRICATION TO ACTUALLY LOCKOUTS OF CHILDREN LOCKED IN VEHICLES THAT THE PARENTS LEFT THE KEYS IN AND IT'S RUNNING OR IT'S NOT RUNNING. SO A LITANY OF 
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DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS AIRCRAFT STANDBY. THAT ONE WAS UP BY 13 CALLS, WHICH WAS INTERESTING. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ACCOUNT FOR STATION NINE GOING ON NOW THAT WE'RE THERE. AIRCRAFT STANDBY. SO LAST YEAR WE HAD FOUR. THIS YEAR WE HAD 17 I'M SORRY 2023 FOR 20 2417 CALLS. MOVING ON ALARMS. THIS IS KIND OF A CATCH ALL CATEGORY. THIS IS EVERYTHING SMOKE DETECTORS GOING OFF. OUR NUMBER ONE CALL ON THIS IS DISPATCH AND CANCELED IN ROUTES. 
          SO SOMEBODY THINKS THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY. WE START GOING. SOMETIMES WE DON'T EVEN MAKE IT OUT THE DOOR, WHICH IS OKAY. AND THEY CALL BACK, SAY SORRY, WE WERE WRONG AS WELL. THERE WAS OVER 1500 OF THOSE LAST YEAR. SO THIS IS ONE CATEGORY OF CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT I'LL JUST KIND OF PLANT THE SEED RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON HOW WE CAN MITIGATE IN THE FUTURE. NOTHING TODAY, BUT THESE ARE KIND OF LABELED NON-EMERGENT CALLS. SO DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE SENDING A FIRE TRUCK AND AMBULANCE TO ALL THESE? AND I CAN TELL YOU NO, BUT I'LL HAVE SOLUTIONS IN THE FUTURE AND I'LL BE COMING BACK, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE WITH POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. SORRY, JOE. TOO SOON. REALLY. THIS IS KIND OF THE LAST SLIDE. WHAT ARE OUR GOALS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR? I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE INVITE. WE ACTUALLY TOOK DELIVERY. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS SERVICE RIGHT NOW OF OUR ELECTRIC FIRE TRUCK. THE VOLTERRA IS ACTUALLY THE MODEL NAME. WE HAVE IT STATION ONE. WE HAVE MECHANICS LEARNING HOW TO WORK ON IT. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PUSH IN CEREMONY THAT WE WILL BE RELEASING TO THE PUBLIC THIS FRIDAY. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, JUST LIKE STATION TWO. ENGINE THREE IS GOING TO BE THE OFFICIAL WASH DOWN, DRY OFF AND PUSH IT IN WITH THE PUBLIC'S ASSISTANCE AS WELL. APRIL 11TH AT 4 P.M. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC COMES OUT AND SEES THAT STATION. IT WILL BE AT STATION ONE ON THE FRONT RAMP, WILL BE USING THE PARK'S BIG VIDEO SCREEN, WILL BE HAVING MUSIC THAT HAS ASSOCIATION WITH ELECTRICITY, LIGHTNING AND THUNDER, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SURPRISES FOR YOU AS WELL. SO IT SHOULD BE GOOD TIMES. THERE'S A LOT OF SONGS OUT THERE. YES. 
          MOVING ON. STATIONS FIVE AND SIX, OBVIOUSLY THROUGH THE 2023 BOND PROGRAM. THE TIMELINE ON THOSE RIGHT NOW IS GROUNDBREAKING FOR STATION FIVE IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, WITH THE EXPECTATION OF GOING ONLINE NOVEMBER 26TH. AND THE STATION SIX GROUNDBREAKING IS JUNE OF 2025, WITH OPENING OF JULY 2026. WE ARE ONLY DOWN EIGHT POSITIONS RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY FILLING ALL THOSE EIGHT VACANCIES EFFECTIVE APRIL 14TH, SO WE WILL BE FULLY STAFFED FOR 2023 AND 2024. WE HAVE HIRED 47 NEW PEOPLE. AND THAT'S NOT JUST NEW FTES. 
          OBVIOUSLY. THAT IS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RETIREMENTS. NOW WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE THAT ARE RETIRING WITH 22, 23, 25 YEARS OF SERVICE, WHERE HISTORICALLY THEY'VE BEEN 35, 40 YEAR EMPLOYEES. SO WE'RE SEEING A DIFFERENCE KIND OF IN GENERATIONAL GAPS THERE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR PENSION, WHICH THEY WILL DESERVE, AND THEY'RE MOVING ON. I THINK IT TIES BACK TO KIND OF THEIR WORKLOAD AND WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ON A DAILY BASIS. ALSO, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ENDURE THAT FOR 30, 40 YEARS NO MORE. SO. CREDITATION SO WHAT I MENTIONED, I PURPOSELY MENTIONED FOR ACCREDITATION. WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. AS I MENTIONED, EMS CONSIDERED IS CONSIST OF 65%. WE KNEW THERE WAS ONLY ONE SMALL SECTION OF EMS, SO WE STARTED LOOKING REALLY BACK IN 2023 AND WE INITIATED THIS PROCESS IN 2024, WE ARE NEARING COMPLETION OF A SEPARATE ACCREDITATION, WHICH IS STRICTLY AMBULANCE ACCREDITATION. WE SUBMITTED OUR PAPERWORK. WE GOT BACK THE FIRST RESPONSE OUT OF 170 SOMETHING LINES THAT WE HAVE TO MEET. THEY NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON JUST TEN DIFFERENT LINES. SO WE'RE MAKING VERY GOOD PROGRESS. WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT BACK IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, WITH EXPECTATION TO HAVE A PEER TEAM HERE ON SITE LATER IN THE SPRING, FIRST PART OF SUMMER. SO I HOPE I REPORT BACK THE END OF SUMMER THAT WE ARE ACCREDITED ON BOTH FIRE AND AMBULANCE ACCREDITATION, AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SKIP THE NEXT LINE ITEM. MOVE DOWN TO. WE DID PREVIOUSLY HAVE THE EMS HOT MEDIC THAT WORKED WITH HOT TEAM. 
          WE HAVE RECLASSIFIED THAT TO. NOW THAT WE HAVE A LIEUTENANT, WE REQUEST THAT TO OUR VERY FIRST EMS LIEUTENANT. AND WITH THAT RECLASSIFICATION WE'RE EXPANDING THAT PERSON'S ROLES. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST WORKING WITH THE HOT TEAMS STREET OUTREACH TEAM. WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING WITH THE HOSPITALS AND LOOKING AT OUR COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC PROGRAM. AND WHAT THAT CONSISTS OF IS LOOKING AT OUR HIGH USERS OF 911 THAT TEND TO CALL US FOR MORE NON-EMERGENT NEEDS, BECAUSE WE GO SIGNIFICANTLY A LOT OF CALLS THAT THE PERSON THEY JUST HAVE NO ACCESS TO, THEIR PRESCRIPTIONS ARE OUT, AND THEY HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS OTHER THAN JUST CALL NINE ONE AND WE GO. WE TRY TO RESOLVE THAT AS WELL. SO ONCE AGAIN, DO WE NEED A FIRE TRUCK? DO WE NEED TO RESPOND TO THIS OR DO WE NEED ONE PERSON IN A SUBURBAN GOING TO MEET THESE PEOPLE AND TRY TO OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THE HOSPITALS AND KEEP THEM OUT OF EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS 
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ALSO AS WELL? AND THEN THE BIG THING, ALSO, THAT PERSON, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEDICATED SAFETY OFFICER. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. NOW. WE ASSIGN THAT ROLE TO SOMEBODY ON THE FIRE SCENE. THAT PERSON MAY NOT HAVE THE TRAINING THAT ACTUALLY IS MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS. I MEAN, THEY HAVE BASIC TRAINING AS WELL, BUT THERE ARE DEDICATED SAFETY OFFICER PROGRAMS OUT THERE, AND WE'RE WORKING ON TRAINING THIS PERSON AS OF TODAY. DIGITAL DASHBOARDS, THAT'S JUST SOME TVS THAT ACTUALLY SHARE COMMUNICATIONS ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT. STANDARDIZED COMMUNICATION. IT'S TIME FOR US TO ACTUALLY WORK ON A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. I DID DO THIS IN 2020. IT WAS A BAD TIME TO START. WE DIDN'T REALLY GET INPUT FROM EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE OF COVID. THIS YEAR WILL BE KICKING US OFF LATER THIS SUMMER, AND I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO BUSINESS OWNERS, RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND KIND OF HELP GUIDE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO KIND OF GOING BACK UP TO I SKIPPED OVER IS ISO. SO ISO IS A RANKING THAT A COMPANY CALLED VERISK ACTUALLY ASSIGNS YOUR ORGANIZATION DIDN'T IN 2018, WAS AWARDED AN ISO RATING OF TWO. SO IT GOES FROM A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, ONE BEING THE BEST OUT THERE. SO SIMULTANEOUSLY ALWAYS GOING THROUGH AMBULANCE ACCREDITATION, I FELT LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH WORKLOAD. SO I ALSO TASKED OUR TEAM TO SEE ABOUT GOING THROUGH RECLASSIFICATION. ISO WE DID A PRE-ASSESSMENT SURVEY. ISO REALLY HAS THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. IT'S NOT JUST YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT'S CAPABILITIES OF YOUR DISPATCH CENTER. AND THEN I SEE STEPHEN OVER THERE, THE CAPABILITIES OF YOUR WATER SYSTEM AND THE TYPE AND QUALITY OF YOUR WATER SYSTEM AS WELL. SO SARAH GOT THIS. I JUST GOT THIS EFFECTIVE 1130 TODAY. THIS IS A PRELIMINARY REPORT FROM VERISK THAT IS RECOMMENDING TO THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL THAT WE MOVE FROM ISO 2 TO 1. SO IT'S NOT OFFICIAL YET. I'M SORRY. IT'S PRELIMINARY REPORT. NO, BUT IT IS. IT'S A KIND OF A SIGH OF RELIEF THAT TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU GO THROUGH A REVIEWER ON SITE, AND THIS PERSON THEN SENT IT TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE IN NEW JERSEY. 
          THEY DO ANOTHER REVIEW AS WELL. SO THIS IS A REPORT FROM NEW JERSEY SAYING WE ARE RECOMMENDING YOU FOR ISO SCORE OF ONE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KIND OF READ ONE COMMENT ON THE BACK PAGE OF THIS. ISO IS A LEADING SUPPLIER OF DATA ANALYTICS FOR THE PROPERTY CASUALTY INSURANCE INDUSTRY. MOST INSURERS USE PPC CLASSIFICATION FOR UNDERWRITING AND CALCULATING PREMIUMS FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES. SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN TO LOWER THE PEOPLE'S INSURANCE RATES IN THE CITY OF DENTON. AND THE LAST THING ON THIS. SO ISO ONE THIS SUMMER FOR ACCREDITATION AND ACCREDITATION WE ACHIEVE ALL THIS WILL ONLY BE ONE OF THREE FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS THAT POSSESS ALL THREE. SO WE HAVE WE'LL HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN DO TO BE VALIDATED AND VERIFIED BY THIRD PARTIES FOR THE CITIES, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DENTON. SO AND I'M OUT OF BREATH. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT TWO. THERE WE GO. SO LOVE THE DATA. 
          YOU GOT A LOT OF THAT IN THERE FOR THE 23,000. IF YOU WERE YOU ABLE TO. BUT YOU ALSO SHOWED US ON SLIDE FIVE THE SORT OF STATISTICS OF OTHER CITIES BENCHMARK. HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT THEIR SIMILAR SUBCATEGORY ANALYSIS COMPARED TO OURS? AND, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AREAS WHERE WE'RE STANDING OUT OR BAD COMPARED TO OUR COMPARABLES? NOT YET, BUT JUST ACTUALLY GETTING THESE NUMBERS ACTUALLY KIND OF MADE ME MORE AWARE. LIKE WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPARISON. AND ACTUALLY THIS THURSDAY WE HAVE A COUNTYWIDE COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS MEETING. THAT'S SOMETHING WE BRING UP AND ACTUALLY WORKING WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES AND TRYING TO DO SOME ANALYSIS, LIKE WHAT ARE YOUR NUMBER ONE DRIVERS IN YOUR FIRE CALLS, EMS CALLS AS WELL. AND SEE DO WE HAVE SIMILARITIES? DO WE HAVE DIFFERENCES? WHAT ARE YOU DOING BETTER THAN WHAT WE ARE? I MEAN THIS MOST THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL. WE KNOW THAT I MEAN FIRES IT'S EDUCATION. BUT ALSO EMS IS EDUCATION. YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WE'VE HAD PROGRAMS THAT GO OUT TO NURSING HOMES, ASSISTED LIVING CENTERS AND ACTUALLY TEACH FALL PREVENTION AS WELL. IS THAT SOMETHING ON THE WHOLE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION PLATFORM THAT WE NEED TO REFOCUS AS WELL? AND WE'RE DOING THAT INTERNALLY REALLY KIND OF SURVEYING WHAT ALL OUR, OUR, OUR TOP DRIVERS IS CALLS AND CALLS FOR SERVICE IN EACH CATEGORY. AND WHAT CAN WE MITIGATE, WHETHER THROUGH EDUCATION OR ENGINEERING OR ENFORCEMENT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING. I MEAN, IF IT ALL TURNED OUT I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE UP A THING THAT IT WAS ALL HIGHWAY ACCIDENT THINGS. AND OUR COMPARABLES DON'T HAVE AS MANY HIGHWAYS AS WE DO THEN, THEN THAT'S JUST DINT OF US HAVING HIGHWAYS. AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT. I MEAN, FRISCO DOES NOT HAVE THE HIGH SPEED INTERSTATES THAT WE HAVE HERE. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEMOGRAPHICS AS WELL. IT'S REALLY JUST LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND KIND OF DO A DEEPER DIVE. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS KIND OF SIMILAR. THERE WAS A IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S HUGE, BUT THERE WAS A 9.2% INCREASE IN EMS 
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CALLS FOR THE SUBCATEGORIES OF THOSE. DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT KIND OF EMS CALLS THAT YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE THE BIGGEST CATEGORIES? YEAH. TOTAL FROM 2023 WERE UP 1245 CALLS. AND THE PRIMARY CATEGORY WAS AND THIS IS HOW IT'S CODED EMS CALL EXCLUDING MVAS. SO WE DO NOT INCLUDE MVA. SO THAT'S JUST A GENERIC EMS CALL. IT'S NOT HEART ATTACK OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST SICKNESS NAUSEA, VOMITING, DIZZINESS YOU KNOW, LOW BLOOD SUGAR. THAT IS KIND OF THE CATCHALL FOR THE HIGH LEVEL CATEGORY. I MEAN, WE CAN KEEP DRILLING DOWN WAY MORE THAN WHAT THE REPORT. WE CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE FOR THE REPORT AS WELL. BUT IN OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WE CAN TAKE IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, GENDER SPECIFIC OWN AT 6 P.M. TODAY, WHAT TYPE OF CALL WAS IT AS WELL? NO, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC THAT'S JUMPING OUT AT THAT. SO WE JUST HAD A 9% INCREASE IN CALLS IS WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF TELLING ME. JUST GOING BACK TO THE STANDARD WORKLOAD IS JUST INCREASING ACROSS THE BOARD. I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME CATEGORIES WITH SMALLER DATA SETS ARE DECREASING AND THAT'S IT. BUT SINCE EMS IS OUR BIGGEST DRIVER, WE'RE NOT SEEING A DECREASE. AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IN THAT CATEGORY, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. CHIEF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THEN ONE, I REALLY LIKE THE COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC IDEA. I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA TO ADDRESS MAYBE A NEED THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE LIGHTS AND SIREN. I LIKE THAT A LOT. YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MODELS OUT THERE. I THINK THE BIG THING IS, IS GETTING OUR LOCAL HOSPITALS AS PARTNERS BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT THEM. AND I'M HOPING I'M MISPRONOUNCING THIS. SO MEDICARE, MEDICAID PATIENTS, IF THEY'RE SEEN IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND THEY RETURN WITHIN 30 DAYS OF BEING SEEN, THEY ARE NOT COMPENSATED. SO IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE MEDICAL FACILITIES TO WORK WITH US AND TRY TO DO THESE CALL DIVERSIONS AND NOT JUST DO THE STANDARD. WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION OTHER THAN WE'LL PICK THEM UP AND WE'LL TRANSPORT THEM TO YOUR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE'RE DONE WITH OUR PART. NOW YOU HAVE TO ABSORB THAT COST. WOULD THIS BE A GOOD JOB FOR A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER? NO. I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE ACTIVE MEMBER BECAUSE WE WILL POSSIBLY HAVE TO INITIATE SOME TYPE OF SMALL MEDICAL CARE THERE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST IT'S A MINOR, YOU KNOW, WOUND TREATMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT ALWAYS JUST I'M OUT OF PRESCRIPTIONS OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND I NEED SOME TYPE OF RESOURCES. THERE COULD BE SOME SMALL APPLICATION OF EMS FUNCTIONS, I SEE. I LIKE THAT IDEA. THANK YOU. CHIEF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING ON THE WORKLOADS RIGHT HERE ON THIS PAGE, AND YOU NOTED SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO FRISCO AND. I JUST CAME BACK TO THE HOMELESS SHELTER, TO THE SHELTER. AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CALLS THAT HAD BEEN DIRECTED TO THE SHELTER, AND THEY COULD BE SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE, WHICH THOSE CALLS ARE COUNTED. AND I WAS THINKING, WELL, FRISCO DOESN'T HAVE A HOMELESS SHELTER. COULD THOSE NUMBERS KIND OF DRIVE UP? SOMETHING THAT WE SEE THERE? IS THAT CONNECTED TO ANY OF TO THOSE NUMBERS THERE? FRISCO 19,000 DIDN'T 23,000. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS. CAN YOU GIVE ME. I MEAN, JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON HOW YOU ALL ARE CATEGORIZING THOSE AREAS, HOW YOU ARE RESPONDING, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. YEAH, WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED TRACKING THAT. SO OUR CREWS, WHEN THEY RESPOND, THERE'S A FIRE INCIDENT THAT IS CREATED ON EVERY INCIDENT. IF IT'S A MEDICAL, THEY'LL HAVE A PATIENT CHART THAT IS MORE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PRIVACY PROTECTED AS WELL. BUT ON OUR FIRE REPORTS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TAB NOW THAT THAT PERSON INDICATES THAT HE OR SHE IS HOMELESS. WE GO AHEAD AND THE COMPANY OFFICER WILL ACTUALLY IDENTIFY THAT THAT HAS BEEN LOST TRACK HOMELESS SINCE 2023 AND REPORT ON THE 23,012 CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR LAST YEAR, A LITTLE OVER 11% WERE RELATED TO HOMELESS, SO THEY HAD ACTUALLY SLID THAT TAB OVER TO SAY YES. THIS WAS A CALL RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS AS WELL. AND LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE WE WERE A LITTLE UNDER 700 CALLS TO THE SHELTER ITSELF WITHIN THOSE WALLS. OKAY. THAT'S. THAT. I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I DID THINK OF SOMETHING. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A VERY HIGH NUMBER. STILL VERY HIGH AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC HERE PRETTY SOON. SO WITH NEXT MEETING. SO I'M NOT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO BELEAGUER YOU WITH THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, JUST ON THE POSITIVE SIDE OF LIFE. THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB. I'M GLAD THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS PUTTING SAFETY FIRST AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH WHAT YOU NEED. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF YOUR MATERIALS AND YOUR SUPPLIES AND TRUCKS. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT. SO I'M GLAD WE'RE 
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GOOD WITH THAT AS A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE? CHIEF, I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T SEE IN IN THE BACK OF THIS WEEKEND. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS. CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY RESTATE WHAT YOU SAID? YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT, THE ONLINE VERSION. IT ACTUALLY LISTS THE PERSON'S NAME AND HOW MANY. SO WE HAD I DIDN'T REALLY CALCULATE 12 TO 15 RETIREMENTS. DO WE. DO YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE MANY MORE ON THE IMMEDIATE HORIZON? THERE ARE I DO KNOW THE ANSWER. AND YES, IT IS SCARY. WE HAVE OVER 45 PEOPLE WITH 20 PLUS YEARS THAT CAN RETIRE AT ANY DATE. IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THE MEN AND WOMEN RETIRING EARLIER, NOT STAYING. THE 30 YEARS ARE NOW STAYING 20, 25 YEARS. AND YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE WORKLOAD AND PERHAPS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT THEIR PREDECESSORS PROBABLY DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH. CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. DO FIRE PERSONNEL HAVE ACCESS TO A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL? YES. WE HAVE A VERY LONG LIST OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE THAT ARE POSTED EVERY STATION, NUMEROUS DIFFERENT ONLINE COUNSELORS. WE HAVE OUR OWN PEER SUPPORT TEAM THAT IS TRAINED OUTSIDE TRAINING THAT OUR MEMBERS CAN REACH OUT TO. THAT IS ALL STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. SO I WOULD STAND HERE TODAY AND SAY, OUT OF THE DEPARTMENTS OF NORTH TEXAS, I WOULD PUT US TOWARDS THE TOP ON HOW THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR OUR MEMBERSHIP, ANY WAY TO KNOW IF FOLKS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT? NOTHING SPECIFIC. I DO GET FEEDBACK THAT IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN WE ALL IMAGINE THAT ARE REACHING OUT USING THE RESOURCES, WHICH IS GOOD. SO WE DON'T WANT THE STIGMA OUT THERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO MANAGE IT YOURSELF. WE WANT THE OPPOSITE, SAYING, THIS IS YOUR RESOURCES, PLEASE USE THEM. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP ANY OTHER WAY. OKAY, MISS CITY MANAGER, I'M CURIOUS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW IN SIZE, IF THE MODEL WE'RE USING SOMEONE OUTSIDE IS THE BEST USE OF IT, OR IF IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE. SO OUR STAFF IS SO LARGE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE IN-HOUSE FOR THIS. I'M JUST CURIOUS, NOT ASKING FOR IT. I'M JUST JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS. I DO THINK THAT WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION OVER THE LAST TWO BUDGET YEARS. THIS YEAR COMING UP WON'T BE A GOOD YEAR FOR IT. BUT I DO THINK AS THE CITY GROWS AND CONTINUES TO SEE A LOT INDUSTRIAL, RETAIL AND CERTAINLY THE ROOFTOPS AND THE CITY GETS TO A POINT WHERE IT'S NO LONGER VIABLE TO JUST CONTRACT OUT THE IDEA OF HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL OR PROFESSIONALS THAT WOULD SERVE NOT ONLY OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT OUR STAFF IN SOLID WASTE AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO DO COME ACROSS INCIDENTS AND EVEN THE STRESSFUL NATURE OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SOMEONE ON STAFF TO HELP BECAUSE WE HAVE THE EAP PROGRAM WHERE I KNOW POLICE GOES THROUGH THAT FIRE HAS ACCESS TO THAT AS WELL, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES. BUT AND WE HAVE THE CLINIC HAD SOME HELP THERE, BUT IT WAS SO NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT NEEDED TO SEE TO SEEK HELP. AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST COUNSELING THAT THEY NEED. SO IT IS SOMETHING ON OUR RADAR WITH HUMAN RESOURCES. FIRE AND POLICE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE INCIDENTS THAT THEY COME ACROSS AND THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. AND SO THEY THEY HAVE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THEM. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT WITH HUMAN RESOURCES. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SAID THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS KNOWN AMONG YOUR AMONG YOUR STAFF, AND YOU'VE GOT IT POSTED AT EVERY STATION. SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THIS IS BEING USED. FOLKS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. SO CHIEF, THANKS. WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. 
          REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE CHESTER, HELLO. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DISTRICTS. SO IT WAS SO INTERESTING TO ME, THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT HAD VASTLY DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF OCCURRENCES DEPENDING ON ON WHAT IT WAS. SO ARE THE DISTRICTS DETERMINED BY HOW LONG IT TAKES WITH TRAFFIC TO GET SOMEWHERE? IS IT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN EACH DISTRICT? IS IT THE NUMBER? IS IT HOW MUCH LAND IS IN EACH DISTRICT? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO DIVE DEEPER INTO WHY THOSE ARE SO DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. BUT CAN YOU JUST TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THOSE ARE DETERMINED, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS TO SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO DISTRICTS HAVE REALLY ARE DEFINED BY GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES BASED ON RESPONSE TIMES FROM WHERE THE FIRE STATION ACTUALLY LOCATED. SO BEFORE WE BROUGHT STATION NINE ONLINE IN JULY LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, STATION THREE WENT ALL THE WAY OUT TO DENTON ENTERPRISE AIRPORT BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST THE CLOSEST UNIT TO THAT AREA AS WELL. SO WE'RE WE'RE MAINTAINING THE DISTRICTS JUST FOR DATA TRACKING. BUT WE WHAT WE WENT TO LAST YEAR IS ACTUAL AUTOMATED VEHICLE LOCATION. SO AVL SO THAT ACTUALLY NOW THE CAD CHOOSES THE 
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CLOSEST UNIT AND THEN DISPATCHES THAT CLOSEST UNIT TO THE INCIDENT. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF A FIRE TRUCKS DRIVING THROUGH, SAY STATION FOUR, THEY'RE DRIVING THROUGH HERE FOR SOME REASON COMING BACK FROM A CALL, AN INCIDENT HAPPENS. IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY CALL STATION ONE BECAUSE ENGINE FOUR SHOWS TO BE AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE THE CLOSEST TO THAT ACTIVE INCIDENT. 
          SO WE'VE ACTUALLY STEPPED ON TECHNOLOGY. AND THAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT, EFFICIENT WAY IS TO USE THE CLOSEST VEHICLE AT ANY TIME. SO DISTRICTS WERE VERY HARD BOUNDARIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CREWS KNEW, HEY, THIS IS OUR DISTRICT ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT OVER THERE IS YOURS. 
          WELL, WITH AVL, THAT'S ALL THAT'S WIPED. IT'S A CLEAN SLATE. SO WE STILL GET, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES GO. THAT'S NOT OUR DISTRICT. WE DON'T USE DISTRICTS ANYMORE. YOU'RE THE CLOSEST ONE I'M SORRY AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT FOR KIND OF SHOWING THE DATA I THINK PROBABLY THE DISCREPANCIES, ESPECIALLY FOR STATION NINE, IS THE FACT THAT YOU ONLY HAVE SIX MONTHS WORTH OF DATA ON IT, SO IT REALLY CANNOT COMPETE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. STATION SEVEN, SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY. WE KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST UNDEVELOPED AREA RIGHT NOW. SO WE ENVISION THOSE NUMBERS WILL CONTINUE TO RISE ALSO. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S FASCINATING. THANK YOU. AND LASTLY I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW HOW PROUD WE ARE OF YOU OF YOUR DEPARTMENT. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A FEATHER IN OUR CAP. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE MOST PROUD OF IN OUR CITY. AND SO JUST KNOW THAT ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IS NOT GOING UNNOTICED, AND YOU'RE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SO WHEN WE COMPLETE THE DUAL ACCREDITATION. AND I ALSO WANT I MEAN, I SAID WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO RANK AS FAR AS ONE OF THREE IN THE ENTIRE STATE. BUT THAT'S NOT JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S EVERYBODY HERE, CMO, CITY COUNCIL. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S DEFINITELY A TEAM EFFORT ON THIS ONE AND STEPHEN AND WATER. THANK YOU. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NONE. JUST TO WRAP UP. CAN YOU CAN YOU GO CAN YOU SHARE SOMEONE ASK WHY WHY DO WE HAVE AN ELECTRIC ENGINE. YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE AND NOT UNDERSTANDING THE DIESEL COMPONENT. MAYBE JUST KIND OF WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT. AND FOR ME, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. ONE, THE SPEED AT WHICH WE CAN GET THAT UNIT VERSUS THE OTHER UNITS IS, IS IMPORTANT. BUT I WANT YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT. SURE, I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I KNEW THAT WOULD BE FORTHCOMING AS WE ACTUALLY GIVE MORE PRESS RELEASES COMING OUT ON THIS GOING INTO SERVICE. SO NUMBER ONE THING IS THE SAFETY OF OUR MEMBERS. SO A DIESEL ENGINE GENERATES CARCINOGENS THROUGH THE EXHAUST. SO THAT'S CANCER CAUSING AGENTS. IT'S BEING EXHAUSTED INTO THAT BAY EVERY DAY. SO WE TRY TO BUILD IN DIFFERENT TYPE OF MECHANISMS TO REMOVE EXHAUST. WE DO NOT USE POINT CAPTURE WHICH IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE SYSTEM. THAT'S WHERE THE CREWS ARE HAVING TO HOOK A HOSE TO THE EXHAUST PIPE EVERY TIME THEY ENTER THE STATION, AND THEN IT RIPS OFF WHEN THEY EXIT. SO WE USE PASSIVE SYSTEMS, WHETHER IT'S GRATES TO LET THE AIR FLOW THROUGH AS WELL. THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY. AND SOMETIMES OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOOD, SOMETIMES THEY'RE BAD. I WAS NOT AN EARLY ADOPTER ON THIS ELECTRIC FIRE TRUCK. I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE PIERCE MANUFACTURING PLANT IN WISCONSIN. I SAT DOWN WITH ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY ENGINEERS FOR 45 MINUTES AND SAID, CONVINCE ME. AFTER THE FACT. HE CONVINCED ME TO A CERTAIN POINT, BUT THE PRICE POINT OF THAT UNIT WAS STILL WAY TOO HIGH. FAST FORWARD 12 MONTHS. THE PRICES CAME DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, AND THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW, IF WE ORDER A NEW FIRE TRUCK, IT'S 48 MONTHS BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY IT ARRIVES HERE. SO HOW DO YOU MANAGE FOUR YEARS OUT ON DELIVERY? THIS UNIT WAS 12 MONTHS. SO TO STAY ON A REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE AND IT IS AN EV. IN OTHER WORDS, IT CAN RUN IN PURE ELECTRIC OR THERE'S A SWITCH AND THERE'S A DIESEL ENGINE. IT CAN RUN IN PURE DIESEL. OR YOU CAN PICK THE SWITCH ELECTRIC OVER DIESEL, WHICH MEANS IT WILL RUN ITS BATTERY DOWN TO WHATEVER LEVEL THE MANUFACTURER SETS, AND THEN IT WILL TRANSITION OVER TO THE DIESEL ENGINE SEAMLESSLY. AND OUR CREWS EXPERIENCE THIS. WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DID AN INSPECTION ON THIS, THERE WAS ZERO DIFFERENCE WHEN THEY WAS FLOWING IN NOZZLE. YOU THINK YOU MIGHT SEE SOME PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL WHEN YOU'RE FLOWING IT GOING FROM ELECTRIC TO DIESEL THERE'S ZERO. SO THEY HAVE WORKED OUT EVERY KINK POSSIBLE IN THIS. AND THIS BATTERY PACK ISN'T JUST NEW TO THE FIRE TRUCKS. IT'S BEEN IN APPLICATION FOR OVER TEN YEARS, IS WHAT THE ENGINEER TOLD ME. SO THEY JUST TOOK THIS, I GUESS, ELECTRIFICATION SYSTEM AND ADDED IT AND DESIGNED IT INTO A FIRE TRUCK. SO WHAT WE HAVE GOT NOW IS FIRST THING, A FIRE TRUCK IS NOT PUTTING OUT CARCINOGENS FOR OUR MEMBERS TO BREATHE AND PROLONGING THEIR CAREERS. WHAT'S THE COST OF ONE EMPLOYEE TRYING TO MANAGE CANCER? SECOND THING IS NOW YOU HAVE REDUNDANT SYSTEMS SO THE CREWS CAN RUN IN ALL ELECTRIC. THEY CAN RUN IN ALL DIESEL. IF THE DIESEL ENGINE WAS TO GO DOWN, GUESS WHAT? THEY CAN STILL RUN AN ALL ELECTRIC. 
          THAT UNIT IS NOT OUT OF SERVICE NOW. SO YOU JUST DUPLICATED ITS ABILITY TO STAY IN SERVICE, WHICH IS A BIG THING AS WELL. SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY SHORT. I CAN GO LONGER AS WELL. NO, NO I THINK THAT'S GREAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY AND TO, TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE STATIONS HAVE ADVANCED EACH TIME WE, WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD. AND SO REALLY PROTECTING THE RED ZONE VERSUS GREEN ZONE AND ALL THOSE 
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THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD FOR, FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR, OUR MEMBERS. AND SO THAT'S RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. YOU DIDN'T SAY IT. I THINK IT'S TRUE. WE'RE THE FIRST FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE THAT HAS AN ELECTRIC FIRE TRUCK. CORRECT? WE WILL IT WILL BE THE FIRST ONE IN TEXAS. GOT IT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY 
          [D. Receive a report and hold a discussion on an overview of Water Resource Planning by City of Denton Water Utilities.
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MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM D, WHICH IS ID 25149. RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING WATER RESOURCE PLANNING. ADOPT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR AND COUNCIL STEPHEN GAY, GENERAL MANAGER OF WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS. TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE KICKING OFF THE FIRST OF A THREE PART SERIES FOCUSED ON THE CRITICAL TOPIC OF RESOURCE PLANNING. AS YOU KNOW, WATER IS A PRECIOUS RESOURCE AND ENSURING ITS SUSTAINABLE, RELIABLE, SUSTAINABLE AND RELIABLE SUPPLY IS PARAMOUNT TO THE COMMUNITY'S GROWTH AND WELL-BEING. SO PART ONE WILL BE FOCUSED ON BUILDING A FOUNDATION THAT A FOUNDATION OF UNDERPIN THAT WILL UNDERPIN HOW IMPORTANT THIS RESOURCE IS. WE'LL BE DIVING INTO THE CORE CONCEPTS OF OUR WATER PLANNING, AS WELL AS EXPLORING THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS THAT GUIDE OUR STRATEGIES FOR TODAY AND INTO THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF SLIDES. IT SHOULD TAKE ME ROUGHLY 30 TO 35 MINUTES TO GET THROUGH THIS CONTENT. BUT SO IF YOU COULD HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME AFTERWARDS, IT'S A LOT OF STUFF. WE TRIED TO DISTILL IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE EASILY CONSUMED, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION INCLUDED. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO COVER AN EXPLANATION OF OUR OF OUR WATER RIGHTS, HOW WATER WASTEWATER CONTRIBUTES TO OUR WATER RIGHTS, GROWTH PROJECTIONS, HOW WE MANAGE GROWTH PROJECTIONS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WRAP IT ALL UP WITH A DISCUSSION ON ONE WATER PLANNING. SO DENTON IS ACTUALLY IT TRANSITIONED. IT USED TO BE A WELL A WELL WATER SYSTEM. SO WE HAD 17 WELLS THROUGHOUT THE SERVICE AREA THAT PROVIDED THE DRINKING WATER FOR THE COMMUNITY. IN THE EARLY 1990S, IT TRANSITIONED FROM A WELL WATER SYSTEM TO A SURFACE WATER SYSTEM. AND THOSE TWO SURFACE WATER SOURCES ARE LEWISVILLE LAKE AND LAKE RAY ROBERTS. IN THE 1970S, WE ADOPTED WATER REUSE INTO OUR PORTFOLIO. AND SO PURPLE PIPE, IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD OF THAT TERM. AND WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS IN THAT THAT IN 2019 BULLET POINT, THAT'S WHEN WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED AUTHORIZATION FROM T-C-E-Q. THAT'S THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO RECLAIM OR REUSE A PORTION OF THE FLOWS FROM PECAN CREEK WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY AS PART OF OUR WATER SUPPLY PORTFOLIO. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A 12.05, 12, ROUGHLY 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, OR 50% OF THAT EFFLUENT, WHICHEVER IS THE LESSER OF THE TWO. AND THE REASON THAT RESTRICTION IS IN PLACE IS THAT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT RESTRICTED THE AMOUNT THAT WE COULD REUSE FROM THAT FACILITY. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SURFACE WATER, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SURFACE WATER IS MANAGED. IT'S BASICALLY BROKEN UP INTO THREE DIFFERENT POOLS. SO WE HAVE A FLOOD POOL, A CONSERVATION POOL, AND THEN THE INACTIVE OR THE DEAD POOL. SO THE FLOOD POOL IS DESIGNED IS A DESIGNATED AREA ABOVE THE NORMAL OPERATING LEVEL THAT IS INTENTIONALLY FLOODED DURING HIGH WATER EVENTS TO STORE EXCESS WATER AND REDUCE DOWNSTREAM FLOODING. SO THAT'S THE FLOOD POOL. THE CONSERVATION POOL IS THE DESIGNATED AREA USED TO MEET VARIOUS NEEDS, INCLUDING MUNICIPAL, DOMESTIC, AGRICULTURAL, INDUSTRIAL. AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE DRAW FROM. FROM NOW, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS BULLET POINT, THERE'S A THERE'S A NOTE THAT SAYS THAT OUR FULL RIGHT REMAINS UNTIL WE REACH 50% OR BELOW 50% OF THAT CONSERVATION POOL. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S REFERRED REFERRED TO AS OUR FIRM YIELD. THEN YOU HAVE THE DEAD POOL OR THE INACTIVE POOL WHERE YOU CAN'T GET ANY WATER FROM. SO WHAT IS THIS? THE FIRM THE FIRM YIELD. WELL, THE FIRM YIELD IS A CRITICAL CONCEPT IN WATER 
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RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, PARTICULARLY IN REGIONS PRONE TO DROUGHT. IT REPRESENTS THE RELIABLE, GUARANTEED AMOUNT OF WATER A RESERVOIR OR SOURCE CAN PROVIDE, EVEN DURING THE MOST CHALLENGING DRY PERIOD. SO IN 1985, WE MET WITH OR WE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS TO ESTABLISH WHAT THOSE FIRM YIELD AMOUNTS ARE. AND THOSE FIRM YIELDS AMOUNT. THOSE FIRM YIELD AMOUNTS ARE DESIGNED TO GIVE US ROUGHLY THREE YEARS OF CAPACITY AT THAT FIRM YIELD DRAW, TO ALLOW THE LAKES TO RECOVER FROM POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, FROM RAIN EVENTS AND OR FOR US TO DEVELOP OR TAP INTO ADDITIONAL WATER RESOURCES. SO WHAT ARE OUR WATER RIGHTS? SO THE CITY OF DENTON ENJOYS WE ACTUALLY ARE ENTITLED TO 4.8% OF THE CONSERVATION POOL OF LEWISVILLE LAKE, THE FULL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT AREA ABOVE THE 50% OF THE CONSERVATION POOL IS 52.15 MILLION GALLONS A DAY IN LAKE RAY ROBERTS, WE'RE ENTITLED TO 26% OF THE CONSERVATION POOL. SO THE FULL RIGHT, THAT AREA AGAIN ABOVE 50% OF THE CONSERVATION POOL IS 185 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, 0.6 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. OUR FIRM YIELD IS 19.76. SO OUR TOTAL FULL RIGHT. THE FULL RIGHT. WHEN WE'RE ABOVE THAT CONSERVATION POOL IS 237.75 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. NOW, KEEP IN MIND WE SHARE THAT LAKE WITH DALLAS. SO IF WE WERE TO EXERCISE OUR FULL RIGHT AND THEY WERE EXERCISE THEIR FULL RIGHT, WE WOULD DRAIN THE LAKES. SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO PLAY NICE WITH THEM AND BALANCE OUR DRAWS. SO YOU MIGHT ASK YOURSELF THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM? WHAT ARE OUR NORMAL DEMANDS? WELL, WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT OUR WINTER DEMANDS, AND WINTER DEMAND IS BASICALLY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISCRETIONARY USE. SO THERE'S NO OUTDOOR WATER USE. PEOPLE AREN'T WASHING THEIR CARS AND NOT WATERING THEIR LAWNS. THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 18 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. THAT'S YOUR BASIC USE. NOW. OUR AVERAGE SUMMER DEMAND IS AROUND 40 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING? PEOPLE ARE WATERING THEIR LAWNS. THEY'RE WASHING THEIR CARS. THEY'RE THROWING WATER BALLOONS AND HAVING FUN OUTSIDE. THEY'RE FILLING THEIR POOLS. ALL DISCRETIONARY USE. SO WHERE AM I AT HERE? SO WATER RIGHTS PLANNING IS CRITICAL TO DENTON TO ENSURE A RELIABLE SUPPLY BY BALANCING SYSTEM EXPANSION, INCREASING OUR CAPACITY AND CREATING REDUNDANCY. SO MULTIPLE SOURCES ARE BACKUPS TO OUR WATER SUPPLY, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TWO BUCKETS RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN PULL FROM. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO WHAT ARE THE METHODS AVAILABLE TO US TO BUILD THAT WATER SUPPLY. SO WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL PAPER WATER. WE HAVE WET WATER. WE HAVE CONSERVATION AND WE HAVE REUSE. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, PAPER WATER IS KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN 2019 WHEN WE GOT THAT AUTHORIZATION FROM T-C-E-Q TO REUSE A PORTION OF THOSE FLOWS. 
          THAT WAS A PAPER WATER. SO WE GOT WE GOT A PERMIT FROM THEM. IT'S CALLED A BED AND BANKS PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO REUSE THAT WATER. SO WE OWN IT. WE GET TO REUSE IT. WET WATER IS BASICALLY DEVELOPING ANOTHER WATER RESOURCE. WHERE'S THAT WATER GOING TO COME FROM. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REUSE, REUSE IS KIND OF A WET WATER WATER SUPPLY. THEN YOU HAVE CONSERVATION. THE MORE WE CONSERVE, THE LESS WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT OF OUR ALLOCATION OF THE LAKES. SO THE MORE WORK WE'RE MORE AGGRESSIVE. WE ARE FOR WATER CONSERVATION, THE LESS IT EATS INTO THAT AVAILABLE SUPPLY IN THE LAKES. AND THEN WHAT'S THAT? I'M MAKING YOU THIRSTY. I'M MAKING MYSELF THIRSTY. AND THEN YOU HAVE NEGOTIATED PURCHASES SO WE CAN WE CAN PURCHASE WATER, RAW WATER FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS AND, AND OR OTHER WATER PURVEYORS. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO IN ESSENCE, WATER RIGHTS PLANNING IS ABOUT ENSURING A SECURE AND SUSTAINABLE WATER FUTURE FOR DENTON BY BALANCING GROWTH, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DENTON'S WATER REUSE, WATER HISTORY. SO DENTON WAS ACTUALLY AN EARLY ADOPTER OF REUSE GOING BACK TO 1971. IT PIONEERED IT PIONEERED WATER REUSE BY TAKING TREATED EFFLUENT FROM PECAN CREEK AND SUPPLYING WATER TO THE CHILLERS OVER AT THE SPENCER POWER PLANT. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST EXAMPLES IN THE STATE. SO WATER REUSE SYSTEMS, THEY BOLSTER OUR WATER RIGHTS THROUGH THAT WET WATER APPROACH THAT LOWERS OUR DEMAND ON THE POTABLE SYSTEM AND 
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REDUCES HOW MUCH WATER IS COUNTED AGAINST OUR ACTUAL RIGHT TO DRAW. THERE'S SOME OTHER EXAMPLES OF THE TIMES WHEN WE'VE EXPANDED THE SYSTEM FOR IRRIGATION. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BASICS OF WATER RECLAMATION, MOST OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE FIELD WITH ME AND YOU'VE SEEN THE COLLECTION SYSTEM, ALL THOSE PIPES. SO THERE'S ROUGHLY 600 MILES OF PIPES IN THE GROUND. AND THOSE PIPES COLLECT ALL THE WATER THAT'S USED, WHETHER IT'S INDUSTRIAL, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL, IT COLLECTS THAT WATER AND BRINGS IT OVER TO PECAN CREEK WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. AT THAT FACILITY, WE TREAT THE WATER TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS TO MEET OUR PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL. AND THEN WE DISCHARGE AN AMOUNT OF THAT WATER INTO THE RIVERS AND THE WATERS OF THE STATE, AND WE TAKE ANOTHER PORTION OF IT AND WE REUSE IT WHERE WE CAN WITHIN OUR WATER RECLAMATION OR REUSE SYSTEM. THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE BYPRODUCT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS OUR BIOSOLIDS, WHICH IS THE IT'S ALL IT IS THE EXOSKELETONS OF THE MICROORGANISMS WE USE IN THE TREATMENT PROCESS. AND WE REUSE THAT IN OUR BENEFICIAL REUSE AS DINO DIRT AND OR DINO SOIL. SO BED AND BANKS PERMITS. EXCUSE ME. SO BED AND BANKS PERMIT THAT IS THAT PERMIT THAT'S ISSUED BY TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY THAT ALLOWS US TO RECLAIM A PORTION OF THOSE TREATED FLOWS. IT'S BASICALLY A FORM OF INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE. WE'VE TAKEN RAW WATER. WE'VE TREATED IT. WE'VE DELIVERED IT FOR A USE. WE'VE COLLECTED IT, WE'VE RE TREATED IT. WE DISCHARGE IT INTO THE RIVERS AND STREAMS, AND THEN WE'RE COLLECT IT BACK IN AND FROM A RESERVOIR. AND WE TREAT IT AGAIN AND WE RESELL IT. THIS BOLSTERS OUR RIGHT THROUGH A PAPER. RIGHT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PAPER. RIGHT OF WATER. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL WATER. BUT SINCE WE OWN THE WATER TO BEGIN WITH, WE RETAIN THE RIGHT TO REUSE IT. SO THE BED BANKS PERMIT GOES THROUGH CONTINUAL AMENDMENTS TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF WATER. SO HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY IMPACT OUR WATER RIGHTS. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT FIRM YIELD RIGHT. WHEN WE'RE BELOW THAT 50% OF THE CONSERVATION POOL. THAT'S AT 24.1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. WELL, WHEN WE ADD INTO IT THE 12.5 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AND ANY WATER THAT WE GAIN THROUGH OUR REUSE SYSTEM, THAT NUMBER GOES UP TO A FIRM YIELD OF RO 36.50. BUT WAIT, WAIT, THERE'S MORE. REMEMBER I TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE CONTINUALLY AMEND THAT PERMIT. CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN WITH T-C-E-Q TO ADD ROUGHLY 9 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF ADDITIONAL FLOW TO THAT PERMIT. BUT THERE'S STILL MORE. I MENTIONED THAT WE ALSO NAVIGATE OR WE NEGOTIATE WITH LOCAL WATER PURVEYORS LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OTHERS FOR RAW WATER RIGHTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER NEGOTIATIONS TO ACQUIRE ANOTHER 10 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY. THAT WILL ADD TO THAT FIRM YIELD. SO TAKING WHAT WE HAD IN 2021, WHEN I GOT HERE AS A FIRM YIELD OF 24.1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, AS FIRM YIELD UP TO ROUGHLY 55 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. SO A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. SO CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT WATER SUPPLY PLANNING OR ANYTHING WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT CONSERVATION AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY. BUT THOSE ARE ACTUALLY KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES THAT LIVE IN THE SAME AREA. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT CONSERVATION AS CONSERVATION, IT'S REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE USE DAY TO DAY. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO OUR DISCUSSED DENTON PAGE AND TAKING A LOOK AT IT, I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT IT. OUR TEAM HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB. 
          WE'RE DEVELOPING PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO HELP REDUCE THE OUTDOOR USE OF THE DISCRETIONARY USE OF WATER IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THEM AND IT'S OUR TURF BUYBACK PROGRAM. SO WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY ADVERTISING WHATSOEVER. WE PUT IT UP ON THE WEBSITE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 22 RESIDENTS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR THE PROGRAM, EXPRESSED INTEREST. 
          WE'VE GOT 15 OF THEM THAT HAVE COMPLETED THEIR INITIAL INSPECTION. WE HAVE FOUR THAT ARE IN CONSTRUCTION, AND WE HAVE ONE THAT'S NAVIGATING THE REPAYMENT SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. SO WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT TO REPLACE THE TURF? ONE SQUARE FOOT OF GRASS TAKES 43 GALLONS A YEAR TO KEEP ALIVE, RIGHT? SO FOR EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF GRASS WE REPLACE, WE GAIN 43 GALLONS A YEAR BACK INTO OUR WATER SUPPLY. SO BUT THEN WE ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. 
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NOW, YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER BACK YEARS BACK LAST YEAR WE HAD A LITTLE ISSUE AT OUR PLANT WHERE WE HAD TO ENACT OUR STAGE TWO DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS. SO THE WAY THAT THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN IS STRUCTURED IS BASED OFF THREE DIFFERENT STAGES STAGE ONE, TWO AND THREE. AND IT GETS MORE AGGRESSIVE AS WE GO THROUGH EACH STAGE NOW. AND IT'S BASED OFF OF THE TRIGGERS. ARE WEATHER ARE BASED OFF OF SUPPLY DEMAND AND OR OPERATIONAL ISSUES. SO WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE. WE HAD A FAILURE THAT REDUCED OUR CAPACITY AND REQUIRED US TO GO INTO DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS. WELL, HOW EFFECTIVE IS THAT? WELL, IN 2024 WHEN WE DID THAT, WE ACTUALLY REDUCED OUR DAILY DEMAND BY 5 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. THAT'S A 12% REDUCTION ON DEMAND JUST BY JUST BY ENTERING INTO THAT STAGE TWO DROUGHT RESTRICTION FOR THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONSERVATION. SO WHEN WE TALK NOW SO NOW THAT WE'VE NOW WE'VE LAID THE FOUNDATION WITH REGARDS TO WATER RIGHTS AND WASTEWATER CONSIDERATIONS. HOW DOES THAT WASTEWATER ADD TO THAT THAT FIRM YIELD. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO GROWTH PROJECTIONS. SO MASTER PLANNING IT MASTER PLANS USE COMMUNITY PLANNING EFFORTS AND KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS TO ANTICIPATE GROWTH AND DEMAND. SO HOW DO WE DO IT? WELL, WHAT WE DO IS WE START WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOLKS. WE SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS HAVE THIS THING CALLED THIS 2040 COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE MAPPING OUT WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE THE GROWTH TO LOOK LIKE WITHIN OUR AREA. THEN WE SAY, OKAY, WELL BASED OFF OF THAT TYPE OF GROWTH WE CAN ANTICIPATE HOW MANY PEOPLE IS IT GOING TO BE ALL COMMERCIAL. IS IT GOING TO BE ALL INDUSTRIAL? WELL, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE OR A WHOLE LOT OF DEMAND ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BUT IF WE START GETTING INTO MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, IT STARTS TO CHANGE THE USE PROFILE SIGNIFICANTLY. SO THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE SAY, ALL RIGHT, ONCE WE UNDERSTAND HOW THE LAND IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPING, AND WHEN THE TIME FRAME IN WHICH WE EXPECT IT TO GROW, WE START DOING SOME CALCULATIONS AND WE SAY, ALL RIGHT, FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, A PERSON IS GOING TO USE BETWEEN 80 AND 100 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY, WHETHER THAT'S BRUSHING YOUR TEETH, MAYBE THAT'S COOKING, THAT'S TAKING A SHOWER, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MAKING BABY FORMULA, WHATEVER. IT'S ROUGHLY FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, RIGHT AROUND 80 TO 100 GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY. THAT'S THE TERM PER CAPITA PER DAY. SO THEN THIS INFORMATION. SO THEN WE CAN WE LOOK AND THAT WILL HELP US DEFINE WHAT IS THAT AVERAGE DAILY DEMAND. RIGHT. WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHEN WE SAID WE HAVE THAT AVERAGE DAILY DEMAND OF 18 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          THAT'S OUR BASE POINT. WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE'RE NOW LOOKING FOR THAT DELTA WHEN PLANNING INTO THE FUTURE, WHAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE NEEDING MOVING FORWARD. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, WHAT WE DO WHEN WE START WITH THESE PLAN, WHEN THESE PLANNING INITIATIVES, WE'LL LOOK OUT 25 YEARS AND THEN WE'LL DIAL IT BACK 15 YEARS, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK ABOUT TEN YEARS, AND THEN WE START REALLY MAKING DECISIONS IN THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE A HIGHER RESOLUTION OF WHAT'S GOING ON, AND WE HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE IN OUR IN OUR ASSUMPTIONS AND OUR PREDICTIONS. SO IN ESSENCE, GROWTH PROJECTIONS ARE THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH WE BUILD OUR WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT STRATEGY. THEY PROVIDE THE NECESSITY, THE NECESSARY DATA TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY CAN MEET WATER NEEDS OF ITS GROWING POPULATION WHILE MAINTAINING A SUSTAINABLE AND RELIABLE SUPPLY. SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM ONCE WE GET THEM? ONCE WE KNOW, NOW WE KNOW HOW FAST WE'RE GROWING. UNDERSTAND? OR WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW QUICKLY WE'RE GOING TO GROW AND WE KNOW WHAT OUR CURRENT CAPACITY IS. WE HAVE TO MARRY THOSE TWO, AND WE HAVE TO NOW PROJECT WHAT WE NEED TO BUILD BASED OFF OF THE GROWTH THAT WE BELIEVE IS COMING. RIGHT. AND NEWSFLASH, PEOPLE DON'T COME IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY BEFORE THEY GET HERE. SO WE HAVE TO BE AHEAD OF THE GROWTH SIGNIFICANTLY. SO WE THEN WE THEN TAKE THOSE NUMBERS, WE CRUNCH THEM. WE SAY, ALL RIGHT, BASED OFF OF OUR GROWTH TRENDS, BASED OFF OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR EXISTING CAPACITY, WHEN CAN WE FORECAST WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IN OUR SYSTEM. AND WE START FIVE YEARS BEFORE THAT. WE TRY TO BECAUSE IF ANYBODY'S TRIED TO BUILD A VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT LIKE A TREATMENT PLANT, IT TAKES A WHILE. SO THE T-C-E-Q ACTUALLY HAS A REQUIREMENT AND IT'S REALLY SPECIFIC FOR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES AND DOESN'T TALK TO SPECIFICALLY ON WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES, BUT IT'S CALLED THE 7590 RULE. SO WHEN A TREATMENT FACILITY REACHES 75% OF ITS DESIGNED CAPACITY, YOU MUST ENTER INTO DESIGN TO CREATE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. WHEN YOU HIT 90%, YOU MUST BE IN CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITIES. AM I 
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KEEPING Y'ALL WITH ME SO FAR? I TOLD YOU IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. GOOD STUFF. SO THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL THIS? WE KNOW WE GOT TO BUILD STUFF, RIGHT? SO NOW WE HAVE TO PLAN TO BUILD IT. SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO PLAN A CAP, MAKE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AGAIN. WE LOOK AT IT THAT 25 YEAR WINDOW, WE BACK IT UP 15, TEN AND FIVE YEARS AND WE SAY OKAY, WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN REASONABLY EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BUILD, TO KEEP UP, TO MANAGE THE GROWTH. AND OH, BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT JUST THE GROWTH. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TODAY AND HOW WE'RE MAINTAINING AND OPERATING THE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ENTRUSTED WITH IN A RELIABLE MANNER. SO THIS THIS INFORMS THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR CIP BUDGET THAT WE BRING TO YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING, FOR APPROVAL. BUT IN ADDITION, WE USE THIS INFORMATION TO INFORM OUR IMPACT FEE ANALYSIS. SO WE DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING HERE TODAY TO PAY FOR ALL THAT GROWTH THAT'S COMING TOMORROW, RIGHT? WE WANT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TOMORROW TO PAY FOR ALL THAT GROWTH. 
          WELL, THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE GIVES US A PROVISION CALLED THE IMPACT FEES, WHICH ALLOW US TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU'VE DONE ALL YOUR PLANNING. YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IN THIS TEN YEAR WINDOW. HERE'S ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST THE UTILITY TO BUILD IT. HERE'S YOUR IMPACT FEES. AND SO YOU DO A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED FOR SERVICE UNITS. AND WE'LL GET INTO IMPACT FEES LATER ON IN OUR PRESENTATIONS. BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT WHEN WE COME IN FOR THAT 100% RECOVERY, THAT 100% RECOVERY IS TO ENSURE THAT WE PLACE THE BURDEN OF GROWTH ON GROWTH. 
          OKAY. SO WE'RE ALMOST THERE. IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER FROM THE OVERVIEW SLIDE, THIS IS LIKE THE LAST SECTION WAS SO PROUD OF YOU OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO REGIONAL WATER LANDSCAPE. SO DENTON IS PART OF THE REGION SEE WATER PLANNING GROUP OF THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. WE ALSO WORK CLOSELY WITH UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT. I ACTUALLY SIT ON THE BOARD AS DENTON'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DISTRICT. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF DENTON HERE IN A MINUTE. SO AS A WATER RIGHTS HOLDER, THE CITY THEN INTERACTS WITH THE REGION, SEE PLANNING COMMITTEE BY ATTENDING MEETINGS, PROVIDING DATA, INFLUENCING DECISIONS, COLLABORATING ON WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, AND ADVOCATING FOR OUR LEGAL AND REGULATORY INTERESTS. OUR INVOLVEMENT HELPS ENSURE THAT THE REGIONAL WATER PLAN REFLECTS A BROAD RANGE OF INTERESTS, AND ACCURATELY ADDRESSES WATER NEEDS ACROSS THE REGION, AND SPECIFICALLY IN DENTON. SO UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT IT WAS CREATED IN 1989. THE CITY OF DENTON IS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT. WE ACTUALLY ADVOCATED FOR ITS CREATION IN 1989. SO WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT? IT IS A REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT, MEANING IT SERVES MULTIPLE CITIES AND COMMUNITIES WITHIN A DESIGNATED AREA. ITS FOCUS IS ON WHOLESALE WATER SUPPLY, SECURING, TREATING AND DELIVERING LARGE VOLUMES OF WATER TO ITS MEMBERS. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING AND MANAGING REGIONAL WATER RESOURCES, OFTEN INVOLVING LARGE SCALE PROJECTS LIKE RESERVOIRS AND PIPELINES. SO YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF LAKE RALPH HALL, THAT LAKE RALPH HALL IS ACTUALLY AN UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT PROJECT THAT THEY THAT THEY PUSHED FORWARD. THE CITY OF DENTON IS A MUNICIPAL WATER UTILITY SERVING THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN ITS CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, WHICH INCLUDES OUR CORPORATE LIMITS AND PORTIONS OF OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. ITS FOCUS IS PRIMARILY ON RETAIL, WATER DELIVERY, DISTRIBUTION, TREATMENT AND MANAGING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN PULLED IN TO THE REGIONAL WATER EQUATION. IF YOU SEE THIS, THESE LITTLE SEGMENTS OF LINE RIGHT UP HERE THAT ARE RED AND THE UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER SYSTEM, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY JOINTLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF DENTON AND UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT. AND WE IT'S OUR TREATED WATER THAT SERVED THROUGH UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT, THE CITIES OF CRUM AND SANGER. SO DENTON'S FOCUS ON OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, THE BEST WAY TO SAY THIS IS, IS KIND OF A, I WOULD SAY A RISK 
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AVOIDANCE APPROACH. YOU GUYS HAVE HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH OLD ALTON. YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH GREEN TREE, THEN THOSE ARE MICRO EXAMPLES OF A VERY LARGER ISSUE OUT THERE WITHOUT US TAKING A LEAD AND PROVIDING RESOURCES THAT WE CAN RELIABLY SUPPORT, BECAUSE AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. WE RUN THE RISK OF THESE COMMUNITIES DRILLING WELLS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS HAVE AT THEIR THAT'S IN THEIR TOOLBOX, RIGHT, IS DRILLING WELLS, TAPPING INTO THE GROUNDWATER TABLE TO SUPPORT WATER. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM ON THERE. AND SO IT BASICALLY IT'S A SUPPLY ISSUE ENSURING A RELIABLE SUPPLY FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES. AND ALSO YOU GUYS HAVE ALSO MAY RECALL THE AUTHORIZATION THAT YOU GAVE US RECENTLY TO CONTEST PERMITS FOR DISCHARGE PERMITS FOR WHAT WE CALL THEM PACKAGE PLANTS. SO THEY'RE SMALLER WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES THAT TREAT UNDER A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY, AND THAT DISCHARGE INTO OUR RIVERS AND STREAMS AND CAN IMPACT OUR WATER QUALITY. SO BY OUR APPROACH OF, YOU KNOW, I GUESS OUR APPROACH OF INCLUDING THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IN OUR PLANNING, IT HELPS AVOID THOSE RISKS. AND IN ADDITION, WHEN WE INCLUDE THEM IN THE PLANNING, THE LONG TERM PLANNING, THAT MASTER PLANNING EFFORT, WE'RE ABLE TO ESTABLISH IMPACT FEES THAT COVER INFRASTRUCTURE ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE FRINGES OF OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. SO IT'S QUITE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR US. SO WHEN I WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE SO WE'RE LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ALMOST THERE. I THINK THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE. OR MAYBE THERE'S ONE MORE THE COMPREHENSIVE WATER SUPPLY PLANNING. SO IT'S REALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT WATER RIGHTS, IT'S CONSERVATION, YOU KNOW, CONSERVING OUR EXISTING SUPPLY, DEVELOPING NEW SUPPLY AND OUR STRATEGIC ACCOUNTING OR PAPER WATER, DEVELOPING NEW SUPPLIES OF WATER. AND THEN OUR MASTER PLANNING, WHICH IS OUR PROJECTED GROWTH, OUR REQUIRED INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTAINING THAT. 
          SO WHEN YOU TAKE THE WATER RIGHTS PLAN, PLUS OUR WATER MASTER PLAN, YOU GET OUR ONE WATER MASTER PLANNING. SO HOW DENTON DIFFERS FROM THE OTHERS? WE WERE AN EARLY ADOPTER OF ONE WATER GOING BACK TO 1971, WHEN WE FIRST LAUNCHED OUR REUSE SYSTEM AND WE SEE IT. AND THIS DEMONSTRATES OUR FORWARD THINKING APPROACH TO WATER MASTER WATER MANAGEMENT. AND WE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING A ONE WATER APPROACH SINCE THE 1970S, INTEGRATING ALL ASPECTS OF MANAGEMENT. AND WITH THAT, I THINK I COVERED A LOT OF INFORMATION IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. SO A COUPLE THINGS I DIDN'T SEE. I KNOW THIS WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW. SO IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THAT THERE'S LOTS MORE YES SIR THAT YOU COULD TALK ABOUT. 
          BUT CAN YOU GIVE THE OVERVIEW VERSION OF THINGS THAT WE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. ONE IS GROUND STORAGE THAT YOU MENTIONED TO US, AND THE OTHER IS RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEMS THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED TO US. WHERE DO THOSE STAND AND HOW DO THEY FIT IN THE SUMMARY WE SAW TODAY? YEAH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT'S PART OF THOSE THAT PAPER WATER AND THAT WET WATER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING AND WE'RE WE'RE ROUNDING THE CORNER ON OUR WATER MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES A COMPREHENSIVE WATER SUPPLY PORTFOLIO OR PLAN FOR THAT. SO WE'RE EVALUATING, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW REASONABLE IS IT FOR US TO DEVELOP WHAT WE CALL AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY, OR IS IT MORE REASONABLE FOR US TO LEVERAGE OUR REUSE SYSTEM, OR IS IT MORE REASONABLE FOR US TO DO MORE INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE? WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE VALUE PER ACRE FOOT FOR INVESTMENT AND WHAT'S THE RELIABILITY OF THAT INVESTMENT. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE FINISHING UP THE ANALYSIS ON THAT. AND WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU SHORTLY WITH THE WORK SESSION TO KIND OF SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. THESE ARE THE RANKINGS OR THE WEIGHTS THAT WE PUT ON THESE PARAMETERS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US LAND ON THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE MOVING FORWARD. RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. HOW CAN WE IS THERE ANY RAW WATER WE CAN PURCHASE? HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE CONSERVATION AS BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN? CAN WE CAN WE AMEND OUR EXISTING PERMITS TO ACQUIRE TO GET MORE INDIRECT WATER THROUGH OUR THAT BED AND BANKS PERMIT BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING CAPACITY AT PECAN CREEK. AND THEN WHEN THIS ANALYSIS IS DONE, IT WILL HELP IDENTIFY HEY AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY IS A VERY VIABLE OPTION. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THIS MANY WELLS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF A YIELD, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE DATA WHEN WE COME DOWN THERE. SO 
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WE'RE STILL EXPLORING IT AS PART OF THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. IT DID. AND I WILL JUST THROW OUT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE COMPETING SORT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT ISSUES OF, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE IF YOU FIND IT'S ECONOMICAL, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC FACILITY PARCEL THAT YOU CAN USE THAT ON. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE SAW SOME SOME ITEMS JUST TODAY ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS AND VARIOUS ZONES FOR STREET RECOVERY. AND IF YOU END UP DECIDING THAT YOU YOU DO THINK RECLAIMED WATER IS USEFUL. WE DON'T WANT TO BE TEARING UP INTO OUR STREETS AGAIN. WE WANT TO SYNERGIZE WITH OUR STREET REPAIR. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THAT GROUP. 
          LIVING UNDERNEATH THIS DEPARTMENT IS WE COLLABORATE VERY AGGRESSIVELY ON THAT. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THIS, THIS SEGMENT OF ROADWAY IS THERE RECLAIMED IN THE AREA. DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO PUT PURPLE PIPE IN THE GROUND. AND WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE START TEARING UP STREETS. AWESOME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. JUST TO CONCLUDE, I APPRECIATE ALL THE DATA, ALL THE KIND OF INFORMATIONAL NUGGETS IN THERE THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE. GREAT TO HAVE IT. OUR ARCHIVED VIDEOS AND GO BACK AND REWATCH. YES SIR. BUT ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE AND IT'S NOT FOR TODAY, BUT FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS. AND HOPEFULLY, LORD WILLING, WE DON'T GET BACK THERE. BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CURTAILING WATER USE, WHEN WE DID THAT, OFTENTIMES THEY GOT THE ENFORCEMENT QUESTION AND THEN THE HOA QUESTION. AND SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. OR SHOULD WE CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO STRONGLY SUGGEST OR ASK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I THINK FORWARD LOOKING IF WE'RE TALKING RESULTS UNDENIABLE, BUT JUST KIND OF THE CONSTERNATION OF YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY LAWN. AND HOA SAYS I HAVE TO AND ALL THOSE THINGS 100%. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MAYOR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE TAKING A VERY I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S UNIQUE APPROACH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE VERSUS ENFORCE FIRST. RIGHT. AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS USED TO A DIFFERENT WATER SCHEDULING. AND SO THERE WAS A WHOLE CULTURE OF JUST USE THE WATER WHEN YOU WANT TO USE THE WATER. AND I JUST HAVE TO ADHERE TO THESE DAYS. SO WITH THE ROLLOUT OF THE NEW SCHEDULE, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH WORK. AND WHEN WE FIND PEOPLE IN VIOLATION, WE'RE NOT JUST WRITING THEM UP AND IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO JUST WRITE THEM UP. OUR INTENTION IS TO EDUCATE THEM. AND THEN BEFORE WE COME INTO, WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING A PROGRAM TO WHERE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY ASSESS A FINE, WE'LL HAVE A PROGRAM THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CAN ATTEND TO HELP WAIVE THAT FINE. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE CONSTANTLY EVALUATING THAT THAT CONSERVATION AND DROUGHT MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND I BELIEVE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING AN UPDATE WELL BEFORE REQUIRED, BASED OFF OF THE LESSONS LEARNED LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE. AND SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION. 
          OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS NOT FOR THIS CONVERSATION, BUT YOU TOUCHED ON IT FROM AN IMPACT FEE PERSPECTIVE. YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET A LOOK AT THE IMPACT FEES PAID BY OUR DUE. IF THEY HADN'T, IF THEY HADN'T ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR THE HABITAT VILLAGE THERE OFF OF DUNCAN. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WILL JUST GIVE ME A FEEL FOR WHAT NONPROFITS, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT DOES 100% RECOUP LOOK LIKE WHEN WE'RE BECAUSE IT APPLIES TO, YOU KNOW, FOR PROFIT NONPROFIT AND JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DYNAMIC. ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION, MAYOR, WITH THE 100% RECOVERY, CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE SOME TOOLS AT ITS DISPOSAL. SO ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE IMPACT FEE PROCESS AND ADOPT THE 100, YOU KNOW, 100% RECOVERY COUNCIL AS A BODY CAN IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES OR PROJECTS THAT MEET SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND ENSURE THAT THEY ENJOY A DISCOUNTED IMPACT FEE BASED OFF OF THOSE DEFINITIONS. YEAH. SO BUT BUT SPECIFIC TO THAT, THAT JUST LOOKING THROUGH THAT LENS I WANT TO SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK. YES SIR. WE CAN WE CAN I WROTE IT DOWN. WE'LL GET IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED ALTON OR OLD ALTON. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF FELL OFF MY RADAR. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF OLD? YEAH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. OH, SUPER SMALL ANSWER. YES. 
          IT'S NOT. WE'RE WORKING ON IT, SIR. YEAH. THANK YOU. I GET IT. WHEN I TOOK THE TOUR OF THE RAY ROBERTS PLANT AND I AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ALL THE NAMES OF, OF PEOPLE THAT THAT THAT 
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MADE CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE 50S. THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, 1987. IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE 1987. ARE YOU KIDDING? BUT THEY BUT THEY SAW THEY SAW THE FUTURE. AND I APPRECIATE YOU SEEING THE FUTURE TODAY. MY GRANDKIDS ARE GOING TO BE THIRSTY AND I AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH. EXCELLENT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. WELL DONE. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          [E. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: Investigate the cost of returning East Hickory Street to traditional right-side head-in parking.
    [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]
YEP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST WORK SESSION ITEM. AGAIN. WE DON'T HAVE CLOSED SESSION. I THINK DINNER IS HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO POWER THROUGH BECAUSE IT SHOULD ONLY TAKE MAXIMUM SEVEN MINUTES. I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. SO ITEM E I'D 25023 RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON PENDING CITY COUNCIL REQUEST. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRISTY FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF HERE TO PRESENT THE TWO MINUTE PITCH FOR TODAY. AS A REMINDER, THE REQUESTING COUNCIL MEMBER WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO DESCRIBE THEIR PITCH AND REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF ONE MINUTE TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE, AND THEN STAFF WILL RESPOND TO REQUESTS WHERE A CONSENSUS OF FOUR IS RECEIVED WITH AN ISR OR LSR, AND THEN A CONSENSUS OF SIX MEMBERS IS REQUIRED FOR RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE COUNCIL AGENDA WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE PROCESS. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND FOR HIS PITCH. OKAY. FIND IT. LET ME FIND MY TIMER HERE. BEAR WITH ME. COME ON. I COULD USE MINE. 
          YES. AND THEN MINE'S SLOWER THAN YOURS. YEAH. THAT'S AWESOME. I'M READY. I BANK AT WELLS FARGO ON SAINT PATRICK'S DAY. I NEEDED TO DO SOME BUSINESS AT THE WELLS ON EAST HICKORY. NOW I KNOW THE RULES FOR PARKING THERE. I PUT MY TURN INDICATOR ON AS SOON AS I CROSSED THE STREET, STOPPED JUST BEYOND MY INTENDED PARKING SPOT, AND PUT MY CAR IN REVERSE. WHEN MY BACKUP LIGHTS CAME ON, THE YOUNG MAN BEHIND ME LAID ON HIS HORN. I KNEW WHAT HE FEARED, SO I STAYED THERE WITHOUT MOVING. FINALLY, HE SQUEALED HIS TIRES AS HE PEELED PAST ME AND SIGNALED HIS DISPLEASURE WITH AN OBSCENE GESTURE. NOW, AGAIN, I KNOW THE RULES FOR PARKING ON EAST HICKORY STREET, BUT WHAT OF OUR VISITORS TO OUR CITY THAT DON'T KNOW THE RULES? ONE PARKING LEGALLY, ONE IS PARKING ILLEGALLY IF YOU HEAD IN, ONE IS CRITICIZED BY PARKING LEGALLY. AS I WELL KNOW, THE BACK END PARKING EXPERIMENT HAS FAILED. THE POLICE DON'T ENFORCE INCORRECT PARKING AND I DON'T FAULT THEM FOR THAT. BUT PEOPLE TRYING TO PARK ON EAST HICKORY, BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, ARE CONFUSED. I'M PROPOSING THAT THE CITY STAFF INVESTIGATE THE COST OF RETURNING EAST HICKORY TO A TRADITIONAL RIGHT SIDE HEAD IN PARKING THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD RECOGNIZES, AND REPORT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ANYONE CAN MAKE A MISTAKE. THIS MISTAKE NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. YESTERDAY I HAD A MEETING AT THE WELLS FARGO TOWER, AND. AND I WAS DOING A DANCE ON ON EAST HICKORY STREET WITH A WITH A PERSON THAT HAPPENS TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN US. WE BOTH KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING AND WE WERE MOVING AROUND AND ALL THIS. AND WHEN THIS PERSON GOT OUT OF THE CAR, I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE BACK END PARKING? I HATE IT, IT'S SO CONFUSING. WE WENT TO THE WE WERE GOING TO GO INTO THE BANK BUILDING, AND I JUST STOPPED IN FRONT OF THIS OTHER PERSON AND SAID TO THE MANAGER, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF BACK END PARKING? I HATED IT CAUSES SUCH A PROBLEM. PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS WHINING ABOUT IT. I DID A I DID A SURVEY IN THE ELEVATOR AND EVERYBODY WAS OPPOSED TO IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. SO I'M GOING TO STICK WITH MY POLICY OF SUPPORTING ANY, ANY NON, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE PITCH. SO I LEND SUPPORT TO THIS. I WILL POINT OUT AS A STATEMENT OF FACT IN IN OCTOBER OF 2023, THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE INVESTIGATED THIS ITEM MC 23020. AND IT IT ACTUALLY TURNS OUT IT DOES SAVE LIVES ACCORDING TO THE TRANSPORTATION DATA. BUT I STILL SUPPORT COUNCILOR HOLLAND'S PITCH TO FIND OUT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IN INVERTING IT. OKAY, ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE THEN ONE. BACK IN THE DAY, I DID A ONE MINUTE PITCH ON THE EXACT SAME TOPIC, AND AT THE TIME THE DATA WAS INCONCLUSIVE. SO I'M VERY INTERESTED TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, 
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ABOUT THE DATA THAT WAS REFERENCED. YOU MIGHT SAY, IF IT WAS SO COMPELLING, HOW COME IT ISN'T ANYWHERE ELSE? SO IT'S AT LEAST A QUESTION I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT. AND I WOULD JUST TOSS IN BY WAY OF SUPPORT, POSSIBLY JUST CHANGING THE SIGNS HERE. OH, WE HAVE TO RESTRIPE EVERYTHING. JUST CHANGE THE SIGNS TO SAY YOU COULD EVEN SAY BACK IN PARKING RECOMMENDED IF YOU REALLY FEEL STRONGLY NOT REQUIRED. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. I'LL SUPPORT. 
          OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE. GOT IT. THANK YOU KNOW APPRECIATE IT OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING. UNTIL OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY 
          [AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]
COUNCIL. IT IS 630 AND WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. FIRST THING ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA ARE PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAGS. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE 
          [2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]
INDIVISIBLE. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE PROCLAMATION, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THE NATIONAL LINEMAN APPRECIATION DAY. IF YOU CAN MEET ME DOWN AT THE PODIUM. PLEASE. OH, GOD. GLEN CAMPBELL IS IN THE AUDIENCE. MUSICAL ACCOMPANIMENT. OH, OKAY. SO WE WILL LET YOU ALL INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND THEN ADD WHATEVER KIND OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOU DO OR WHAT YOU WANT US TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING. AND THEN I HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU. HI. MY NAME IS CHRIS OVERTON, LINEMAN. I'M ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF THE HOUSE. BRANT SKAGGS, ALSO A JOURNEYMAN LINEMAN. I'M ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE. GUSTAVO SOTO, JOURNEYMAN LINEMAN. CADEN HALL, JOURNEYMAN LINEMAN. I'M ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE. SO? SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME A JOURNEYMAN? OUR PROGRAM IS A FOUR YEAR APPRENTICESHIP, SO FROM START TO FINISH, IF YOU COME IN AS A MAN, IT'S FOUR YEARS, SO YOU MOVE UP EVERY SIX MONTHS. SO A GROUNDSMAN SO A GROUNDSMAN A IS JUST BASIC YOUR NO EXPERIENCE AT ALL. YOU'RE COMING IN AND YOU KNOW NOTHING FROM THE GROUND UP. GOT IT. I CAME IN AS A GROUNDSMAN MAYOR AND. THAT'S THAT'S AWESOME. SO. 
          AND THEN SO FOUR YEARS THEY THEY STAY WITH YOU, THEY LEARN ALL THOSE THINGS. AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY CONSTRUCTION SIDE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? SO WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE SIDES. WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE. SO ON CONSTRUCTION LIKE ALL THE NEW BUILDS LIKE THE ROAD WIDENING. 
          SO WE'RE MOVING ALL THE LINES OVER MAINTENANCE SIDE IS ALL EVERYTHING. IF IT BREAKS THEY GO OUT AND FIX IT. SO NOW THE MAINTENANCE IS AT THAT WHERE THEY RUN THE REPORT EVERY YEAR KIND OF SAYING WHERE THE POLES MAY FAIL. AND WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND PROACTIVELY REPLACE THOSE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY CONTROL THAT PART. GOT IT. OKAY. GOT IT. EXCELLENT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO AND MEANS A LOT. AND THE SPEED AT WHICH Y'ALL DO YOUR WORK IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. SO I HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND IT READS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS THE PROFESSION OF ELECTRIC ELECTRIC LINEMAN REQUIRES PASSION, DEDICATION AND IS STEEPED IN THE TRADITION. AND WHEREAS THESE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS ARE COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING AND RESTORING POWER, ESPECIALLY DURING TIMES OF NATURAL DISASTERS, EMERGENCIES SHOWCASING THEIR RESILIENCE, COURAGE AND UNWAVERING SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DENTON JOINS OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION IN RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING THE PROFESSION OF ELECTRIC LINEMAN, AND THEREFORE, WE HONOR OUR DENTON MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC DIVISION PERSONNEL FOR EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DENTON. NOW, THEREFORE, I GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 18TH DAY OF APRIL 2025 AS NATIONAL LINEMAN APPRECIATION DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN IN RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING THE VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR LINEMEN IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. ALRIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE. WE'LL SLIDE IN HERE FOR A PICTURE. 
          YEAH. SOMEBODY GOT THE MEMO. I WOULD WEAR MY BROWN SUIT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE 
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IT. YES. HEY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HERE YOU GO. YOU'RE IN CHARGE. OH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN. NEXT UP WE HAVE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. IF YOU'RE HERE FOR CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. OH, EXCELLENT. HEY, CHIEF. NICE TO MEET YOU. 
          YES, SIR. PLEASURE. TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING. SO TODAY IS APRIL 1ST BEGINS THE CHILD ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR CASA COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES IN DENTON COUNTY. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 400 KIDS THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM ABUSE AND NEGLECT BEING SPONSORED BY VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE SPECIALLY TRAINED CASA ADVOCATES. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT? IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SOME VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, YOU CAN GO TO CASA DENTON. ONE WORD.ORG. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF REALLY FUN UPCOMING EVENTS ON MAY 2ND. IF YOU'RE IN THE CLAY SHOOTING, WE DO HAVE A CLAY SHOOT THAT'S HAPPENING. PULLING FOR KIDS. GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT. WE HAVE HAND BAGS FOR HOPE IN JULY. IF YOU'RE A DESIGNER HANDBAG BINGO TYPE PERSON, THERE'S THAT. AND THEN THIS FALL, WE'LL HAVE OUR 26TH ANNUAL EVENING OF ELEGANCE, WHERE YOU CAN COME OUT AND BE SERVED BY A LOT OF REALLY TALENTED AND COMPASSIONATE DENTON COUNTY JUDGES AND SOME OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM DENTON COUNTY. SO A COUPLE OF GREAT EVENTS COMING UP THE REST OF THIS YEAR. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THOSE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KNOW HOW TO PLUG IN. AND SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. 
          GREETINGS. WHEREAS THERE WERE 577 CHILDREN AFFECTED BY ABUSE AND NEGLECT SERVED BY CASA DENTON COUNTY IN 2024. AND WHEREAS MORE THAN 204 VOLUNTEERS FROM DENTON COUNTY WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS, ORGANIZATION. GIVING ANNUALLY. GIVING 220 20,679 SERVICE HOURS OF THEIR TIME, AND DRIVING 217,982 MILES TO ENSURE SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S CHILDREN. AND WHEREAS OUR YOUNGEST CHILDREN NEED AND DESERVE TO BE SURROUNDED BY LOVE AND POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WHILE BEING GIVEN GUIDANCE AND PROTECTION. NOW, THEREFORE, I, GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM APRIL 2025 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND COMMEND THE WORK OF CASA OF DENTON COUNTY VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF IN ADVOCATING FOR CHILDREN DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME IN THEIR LIVES. WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. QUICK NOTE I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I DIDN'T WEAR A TIE DECORATED BY ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS, BUT FOR FRENCHIE, BECAUSE HE GAVE ME HIS THIS PATRIOTIC TIE. HE SAID SO SHOUT OUT TO FRENCHIE FOR THE WARDROBE ACCESSORIES. AND WITH THAT, LET'S PLAY THE. MESSAGE ON ADDRESSING COUNCIL. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE REGISTERED TO SPEAK. THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT. A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED. IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING. IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS. IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL. PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NONSCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A 
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FUTURE AGENDA. MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY. 
          SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS. ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY. OKAY. THANK YOU. FIRST SPEAKER IS PAT SMITH REGARDING SERVE DENTON 
          [B.  Reports from members of the public shall be received through the following two (2) methods.   A total of up to seven (7) speakers are permitted to provide public comment and may include any combination of prior registration and open microphone speakers.]
UPDATE. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME ONCE YOU'RE READY AND YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. ON BEHALF OF THE 26 MEMBERS OF THE SERVED DENTON BOARD, REPRESENTED BY MISS SHIRLEY KRUEGER BEHIND ME AND OUR 13 WONDERFUL STAFF, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON SERVE DENTON. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE GIVEN YOU THAT UPDATE, AND THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS. IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THE BOARD APPROVED A CHANGE TO OUR MISSION AND VISION. WE NOW ARE PARTNERING WITH NONPROFITS AND COMMUNITIES TO HELP THEM BETTER SERVE PEOPLE IN NEED. AND OUR VISION IS TO CREATE A NETWORK OF CENTERS ACROSS NORTH TEXAS TO BASICALLY REPLICATE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN DENTON, LEWISVILLE, AND I'LL SHARE MORE ABOUT THAT LATER ON. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 25 NONPROFITS THAT SERVE DENTON. IF YOU'D ASKED ME FIVE YEARS AGO IF WE'D EVER GET THIS NUMBER, I WOULD HAVE SAID, NO WAY. AND SO THIS IS A VERY EXCITING MANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS YOU WILL RECOGNIZE AS STALWARTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND OTHERS ARE NEW, NEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE JUST GETTING STARTED. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP THEM GROW AND DEVELOP. FOR 2024, WE SERVED OVER 29,000 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS THAT SERVE DENTON. THAT IS ON PAR WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, SINCE REALLY THE PANDEMIC, AND HAD 47,000 CLIENT VISITS AND JUST UNDER 3400 REFERRALS BETWEEN AGENCIES. THAT LAST METRIC IS A REALLY IMPORTANT NUMBER TO US, BECAUSE IT TELLS US HOW WELL OUR PARTNER AGENCIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER, WHICH WAS ALWAYS THE DREAM. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT NUMBER STEADILY GROW OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK VERY HARD BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT COLLABORATION, BUT COLLABORATION REQUIRES INTENTIONALITY, AND IT TAKES DEDICATED STAFF ON MY TEAM TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT TO MAKE THAT ALL WORK. IN TERMS OF OUR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, WE MEASURE THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. OVERALL, WE HAVE 100% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION FROM OUR BOTH OUR AT THE CEO LEVEL, BUT ALSO AT THE STAFF LEVEL. AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT ARE PARKING. 
          COMFORT. WE STILL HAVE SOME AGING HVAC EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING TO KEEP GOING. 
          MAINTENANCE IS SOMETIMES A CHALLENGE BECAUSE OF THAT AGING EQUIPMENT. AND THEN WE ARE CONSTANTLY FOCUSED ON SAFETY, AS WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE AREA THAT SOMETIMES ARE HAVING A BAD DAY AND MAYBE COMMIT A LITTLE DISRUPTIVE. WHAT OUR CUSTOMERS VALUE ABOUT SERVED ARE FOUR BIG THINGS. THE FIRST IS THE NETWORKING AND COLLABORATION. THIS CHART SHOWS IN THE DARK GREEN 68%. THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE CREATE FOR THEM IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND ANOTHER 32% SAID IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AFFORDABILITY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE PROVIDE. 8,090% SAID AFFORDABILITY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM. PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IS 95%. AND THEN THE SERVANT STAFF, I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY, IS HIGHLY VALUED BY OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. 
          WE HIRE SERVANT LEADERS AND WE EXPECT OUR SERVANT LEADER STAFF TO SERVE OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. 
          OUR IMPACT ON OUR CUSTOMERS IS ALSO VERY EXCITING. THEY RANK US VERY HIGH IN HELPING THEM HIRE AND RETAIN STAFF, GROWING PROGRAMS, SERVING MORE CLIENTS, WHICH GOES TO THE HEART OF OUR MISSION AND THEN BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AND ENGAGED. AND THAT REPRESENTS THAT WHOLE IDEA OF BETTER. HOW CAN WE HELP OUR AGENCIES DO WHAT THEY DO BEST, AND WE TAKE CARE OF THE REST? THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE COPIER, THE BATHROOM OR THE KITCHEN. WE EVEN DO THE DISHES. ON APRIL 12TH, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING OUR ANNUAL CELEBRATION EVENT, WHICH HAS BECOME A MAINSTAY WITHIN DENTON COUNTY. IT'S A NIGHT IN OLD HAVANA AT CIRCLE R RANCH. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFORM IT INTO HAVANA, CUBA, WITH AUTHENTIC CUBAN FOOD. HAVANA NRG IS A BAND, AND IF YOU WOULD STILL LIKE TICKETS, PLEASE CONTACT ME. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOLD OUR LAST TABLE TODAY TO RAYMIE KING INSURANCE, SO. BUT WE'RE STILL SELLING TICKETS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS SET US APART, I THINK, IS OUR WORK WITH TOYOTA PRODUCTION SYSTEM, AND WE NOW 
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OFFER A SEMINAR AT THE END OF APRIL TO TEACH THAT. AND SEVERAL BANKS AND NONPROFITS ARE USING THIS COURSE TO HELP THEM GET BETTER. AND WE OFFER THAT TO THE CITY AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY ONE QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD HOPE TO SHARE WITH US THAT YOU RAN OUT OF TIME ON? YEAH. IF YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I THINK THE MOST EXCITING THING IS, IS HOW WE'RE SHARING THE MODEL. AND THAT WAS THE LAST SLIDE I DIDN'T GET TO. BUT LET ME GET TO IT RIGHT QUICK. SO WE'VE CREATED A CONSULTING SERVICE CALLED DEVELOPER MANAGEMENT SERVICES. WE ARE NOW UNDER CONTRACT IN THE CITIES OF GARLAND, PLANO AND BONHAM. AND WE ARE ALSO IN DISCUSSIONS NOW WITH DALLAS COUNTY AND KAUFMAN COUNTY TO HELP THEM CREATE CENTERS BUILT ON THE SERVANT MODEL. AND WE ALSO ARE WORKING WITH UNT TO CREATE A RURAL COMMUNITY MODEL THAT CAN GO INTO SMALL COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE FIVE KEY SERVICES HEALTH CARE, MENTAL HEALTH, FOOD, CHILD CARE AND INCOME ASSISTANCE, AND A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT STARTED IN DENTON IS NOW SPREADING ACROSS THE STATE AND HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY THE NATION. 
          THANK YOU. IT'S ACTUALLY I HADN'T, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU RUN OUT OF TIME. I HAD INTENDED TO ASK, WAS THAT ON YOUR FIRST SLIDE, SOMETHING THAT'S NEW AND YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE SERVING NONPROFITS AND COMMUNITIES. SO THIS IS THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PART, RIGHT? THANKS. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN DOING. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES. APPRECIATE IT. AND NEXT NEXT SPEAKER IS AND I DON'T KNOW I I'M OUT OF PRACTICE. I'M A MIRROR. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS AMIR RASOOL. AND I AM PALESTINIAN AMERICAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER ME. I CAME FOR THE BETTER HALF OF LAST YEAR. AND I'M SURE YOU'RE RELIEVED THAT I DIDN'T BRING MY ENTOURAGE. I THINK I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE MY TITLE. RATHER THAN I TOLD YOU SO. I WANT TO TITLE IT. IT'S NOT TOO LATE. I ORIGINALLY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO YOU. NOT ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY OR TO PROVIDE A VOICE FOR MY PEOPLE. BUT OUT OF ANGER. ANGER THAT AFTER SO MANY MONTHS OF COMING HERE AND WARNING YOU ALL THAT OUR GOVERNMENT, IF OUR GOVERNMENT IS WILLING TO FUND A GENOCIDE, IT WILL NOT YIELD IN ITS VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR OWN COMMUNITIES. BUT I'VE CHANGED MY MIND. RATHER THAN SPEAKING TO YOU OUT OF ANGER AND FRUSTRATION, I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT TOO LATE. YOU CAN DO MORE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY THAN MAKING A POST ON FACEBOOK. YOU CAN BE MORE THAN A FIGUREHEAD GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS. EVERY MARGINALIZED GROUP NEEDS YOU TO BE A LEADER NOW. A REAL LEADER. THEY NEED YOU TO PUT UP A FIGHT AGAINST OUR STATE AND NATIONAL GOVERNMENTS, WHICH ARE RAPIDLY ERODING OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES. UNIVERSITY STUDENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE BEING KIDNAPED BY MASKED OFFICERS IN UNMARKED VEHICLES, AND HELD WITHOUT CHARGE, AND WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR LAWYERS. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE MANY VIDEOS ONLINE THAT YOU CAN FIND. MOST RECENTLY AT UNT, AN ART PIECE THAT WAS CREATED BY ONE OF THE STUDENTS THAT WAS CRITICAL OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT. TRIGGERED A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INTO UNT AND PRO-PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS ON CAMPUS, INCLUDING MYSELF. THEY CLAIM THIS INVESTIGATION IS FOR ROOTING OUT ANTISEMITISM, BUT WHAT IT REALLY IS, IS A WAY TO INSTILL FEAR IN ANYONE STANDING AGAINST THE GENOCIDE. UNT INTENDS TO FULLY COOPERATE WITH OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, HANDING OVER THE NAMES OF ANY STUDENTS WHO ARE CAUSING TROUBLE. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. BEFORE I WALK OUT OF MY HOUSE, I CHECK THROUGH MY BLINDS TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO VEHICLES THAT I DON'T RECOGNIZE. I LOOK OVER MY SHOULDER WHEN I'M WALKING TO GO TEACH CLASS. I HAD TO TELL MY PARTNER THAT IF I DON'T RESPOND TO HIS TEXT OR CALLS, HE NEEDS TO WORRY THAT MY INVOLVEMENT IN SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE GENOCIDE OF MY PEOPLE, USING MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN, MIGHT GET ME KIDNAPED BY OUR GOVERNMENT. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, AND AS SATISFYING AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR ME TO COME HERE TODAY AND SAY, I TOLD YOU SO. INSTEAD, I'M 
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HERE TO TELL YOU YOUR PROXIMITY TO WHITE SUPREMACY WILL NOT PROTECT YOU. AND I DON'T HAVE TO SPECIFY WHICH OF YOU I'M TALKING TO. YOU ALREADY KNOW, AND THEY KNOW. YOUR ALLEGIANCE TO FASCISM, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY WILL NOT PROTECT YOU. DO YOU KNOW WHO WILL, THOUGH? THE SAME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE ASKING YOU TO STAND UP AND DO SOMETHING. SO I'LL END BY SAYING THIS. IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO DO SOMETHING. PLEASE PROTECT THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF STUDENTS AT UNT. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE MORE THAN THE COWARDS YOU HAVE BEEN. BUT EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT, OUR CAUSE WILL BE VINDICATED IN TIME. IT ALREADY HAS. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO QUESTIONS. THAT TAKES US TO THE CONSENT 
          [4. CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. BUT FOR ITEMS B AND C, WHICH WERE PULLED FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. ACCEPTING ITEMS B AND C REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. BUT FOR ITEMS B AND C ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. 
          AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 1. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B. AND LET ME GET THERE. I THINK I HAVE THE 
          [B. Consider a nomination/appointment to the City’s Planning & Zoning Commission.]
WRONG PAPER. GOT IT. ITEM B IS ID 25557. CONSIDER A NOMINATION OF APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND I'LL. I'LL EXPLAIN WHY THIS WAS PULLED. IF YOU FOR THOSE TRACKING ALONG, IT'S IN OUR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO CITY STAFF. BUT. WHAT I'M WHAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR HERE IS THAT WE TAKE A PAUSE AND GET THE REQUISITE INFORMATION, OR I'M ASKING FOR IN THE DISCUSSION, SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE WOULD IGNORE OUR ETHICS ORDINANCE GUIDELINES. TO THAT END, I WANT TO THOSE TRACKING ALONG. I WANT TO SEPARATE THE ETHICS ORDINANCE FROM THE LEGAL AND REPORT WE RECEIVED. AND SO, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, YOU PROVIDED GUIDANCE ON THIS DISCUSSION. IS THAT GUIDANCE BASED ON. I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO. YOU TELL ME WHAT IS WHAT IS YOU WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU GUIDING OR WHAT WERE YOU SPEAKING TO WHEN YOU PROVIDED YOUR YOUR GUIDANCE? SO THE COUNCIL RECEIVED A CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM FROM MY OFFICE LAST WEEK. IT'S IN RESPONSE TO THE CITY SECRETARY DOES THE VETTING TO SEE WHETHER SOMEONE IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS CAME UP WAS, WE HAVE SOME CHARTER PROVISIONS THAT SPEAK TO ELIGIBILITY TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SAYS YOU CAN'T BE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL OR AN OFFICER OF THE CITY AND SERVE ON THE PNC. SO WE SHE REACHED OUT TO US. WE DID SOME RESEARCH AND PROVIDED COUNSEL WITH OUR LEGAL OPINION ON THAT. WITHOUT GOING INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT SHE'S INELIGIBLE OR STATED OTHERWISE WITHOUT THE DOUBLE NEGATIVES. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CANDIDATE IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE. THE CHARTER IS NOT A PROHIBITION TO HER SERVING ON THIS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF OUR REVIEW OF THIS CANDIDATE. SO DID YOU REVIEW CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? NO. RIGHT. AND SO THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND FOR THOSE, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT, AND I ONLY WENT BACK TO ONE AS TO NOT BE CUMULATIVE. BUT IT'S A REGULAR OCCURRENCE, I ASSURE YOU. AND THESE THINGS I WILL SHARE IN THE FUTURE IF NECESSARY. BUT I'LL GO BACK TO JUST THEIR MOST RECENT. SO THE NOMINEE APPOINTED IS THE CEO OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHICH IS A PUBLIC FINANCE CORPORATION. 
          THE CITY OF DENTON IS ALSO HAS ITS OWN PUBLIC FINANCE CORPORATION. AND SO I REFER BACK TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S MEETING ON THREE 1825, JUST THEIR MOST RECENT MEETING, AND UNDER ON THEIR AGENDA. ITEM TWO CONSTRUCTION PROJECT PROGRESS REPORTS. VINTAGE RANCH, MAYHILL CROSSING, WESTVIEW HEIGHTS, BIRCH WAY AND THE WELDON. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE 5 OR 6 ONGOING PROJECTS THAT WOULD THEN BE AFFECTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING THAT WEREN'T PROVIDED IN 
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THE BACKUP FOR THIS NOMINATION. AND THEN I'LL ALSO POINT PEOPLE TO AND I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT, BUT I'LL JUST POINT OUT SECTION 2-272 OF THE CITY OF DENTON ETHICS CODE, WHICH MANDATES THE DUTY TO REPORT CITY OFFICIALS SHALL REPORT ANY CONDUCT THAT A PERSON WHO PERSON KNOWS TO BE A VIOLATION OF THIS ARTICLE. FAILURE TO REPORT A VIOLATION OF THIS ARTICLE IS A VIOLATION OF THIS ARTICLE. AND I ALSO CONFIRMED THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S FEEDBACK THAT THE THIS APPOINTMENT IS A CITY OFFICIAL, IS CONSIDERED A CITY OFFICIAL PER THE ETHICS ORDINANCE DEFINITION. AND SO THE OTHER THING THAT'S MISSING IN THIS BACKUP THAT THAT IS CRITICAL. AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT QUICKLY SO THAT I CAN READ IT DIRECTLY. AND SO I'M NOT PARAPHRASING. OKAY. IT'S SECTION 2-273. A TWO CITY OFFICIALS WHO HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, CONFLICTING INTEREST IN A PENDING MATTER MUST FILE A DISCLOSURE WITH THE CITY AUDITOR. THAT IS FOR THE TIME PERIOD, INCLUDING THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR AND UP TO DATE WHERE THE CONFIRMING INTEREST ARISES. SO THE MINUTE THIS PERSON IS APPOINTED, THAT TRIGGERS AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN ADVANCE, I'VE LISTED FIVE PROPERTIES ALREADY. SHE THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THREE PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN. WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE OWNERS. WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE CONFLICTING ISSUES. AND SO I JUST I NEED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE ARE IGNORING OUR OWN ETHICS ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, OR AT LEAST NOT VETTING FULLY AS WE'RE DUE FOR THIS VOTE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT TRANSPARENCY IS A MINIMUM. AND SO AND I, I'M JUST DUTY BOUND TO RAISE THIS QUESTION. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I PUT IT BEFORE THE BODY. THE BODY CAN CAN MAKE WHATEVER DECISION IT NEEDS TO MAKE. BUT I'M JUST SEEKING A. TIME TO GET THE INFORMATION TO GET THE OWNERS OF ALL THESE PROPERTIES. I THINK THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PROVIDES A THIRD OF THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THE CITY OF DENTON. THAT NUMBER COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT'S THAT'S IT. SO IT IS A ENORMOUS THING. AND SO AND THEN I'LL CONCLUDE WITH THIS. WHY DOES IT MATTER? BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTED RUNS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS CLOSED MEETINGS. WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS AS FIDUCIARIES OF THIS BODY OF THIS CITY, TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE RECORDS SO THEY CAN HAVE MEETINGS ABOUT PENDING DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE NOMINEE WOULD VOTE ON THAT THEN HAVE NO DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS THAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THE CITY DOES AS WE COMPLY WITH OUR ETHICS ORDINANCE. SO IT IS TRULY UNIQUE AND TRULY DESERVES OUR ATTENTION. AND THE CITIZENS WHO VOTE FOR US AND WILL VOTE THIS YEAR. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND AT LEAST HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE PROJECTS AND ALL THE OWNERS AND ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND THEN MAKE A DECISION. BUT I JUST I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. AND JUST TO BE FAIR, THIS APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED IN MARCH AND THAT'S PROVIDED BY STAFF. IT WAS MARCH 5TH. SO HERE WE ARE ALMOST A MONTH LATER. SO THEY'VE HAD A MONTH TO TURN IT OVER. THE ETHICS ORDINANCE IS AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE, SO IT'S NOT A LAST MINUTE THING. IT IS A KNOWN COMMODITY IN MY ESTIMATION. THAT'S WHY I PULLED IT. THAT'S WHY I WON'T BE SUPPORTIVE. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO A DATE CERTAIN WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE DEVELOPERS NAMES, FAMILY MEMBERS OR WHATEVER IS REQUIRED BY THE ETHICS ORDINANCE. BUT TO IGNORE THEIR ETHICS ORDINANCE, I THINK IS AN ERROR THAT THAT'S MY STATEMENT. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. SO IS MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IS THIS NOMINEE A CITY OFFICIAL AND OUR CITY OFFICIALS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? SO TODAY SHE'S NOT A CITY OFFICIAL. 
          CITY OFFICIALS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IF SHE IS APPOINTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, SHE IS, AT LEAST UNDER OUR ETHICS ORDINANCE AND FOR OTHER REASONS, CONSIDERED A CITY OFFICIAL AT THAT TIME. SO ANY SUBSEQUENT RULES OR THE ETHICS WOULD GOVERN HER BEHAVIOR TO THAT? YES. WHEN SHE WAS ON THE 
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PLANNING AND ZONING, SHE WILL BE A CITY OFFICIAL UNDER THE ETHICS ORDINANCE AND BE SUBJECT TO ALL ITS REGULATIONS, I THINK. THANK YOU, MR. CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. IF I MAY, I JUST I HAVE IS THE CONCERN THE AMOUNT OF RECUSALS THAT THIS NOMINEE WOULD NEED TO MAKE DURING THEIR TENURE ON PNC BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF. CONFLICTS THAT COULD ARISE. IS THAT THE CONCERN? I'M JUST TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I COMPLETELY TRACT. SO I APOLOGIZE AND I'M JUST TRYING TO IS THAT THE CONCERN IS THAT, THAT THE VOLUME THAT SHE. IS INVOLVED WITH OF THE MULTI HOMES ETC, THE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, ALL OF ALL OF THAT, THERE WOULD BE SO MANY OF THOSE COMING BEFORE PNC THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE TO RECUSE HERSELF. IS THAT THE CONCERN? YES. BUT TODAY THE CONCERN IS PER THE ETHICS ORDINANCE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE REQUISITE INFORMATION BECAUSE AS A CITY MANAGER APPOINTED CITY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT, ONCE SHE'S ON THE BOARD, SHE'S SUBJECT TO THE ONE YEAR LOOK BACK. AND THAT WOULD I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROPER TO PUT THAT FORWARD FIRST. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE NOW WE VOTE. NOW SHE'S ON AND BUT WE'RE BUT WE KNOW IN ADVANCE. I KNOW IN ADVANCE THE ETHICS ORDINANCE SAYS PER THAT SECTION YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE THIS INFORMATION. WHY WOULD I PRETEND I DON'T KNOW THAT AND GO FORWARD WITH THE VOTE, NOT HAVING ALL THAT INFORMATION THEN? YES. AND THEN YOU ALSO GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE CONFLICT BECOMES IT'S PRECEDING THE VOTE ON PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD HAPPEN. THEN DEPENDING ON HOW THAT GOES, THEY MAY SEEK FUNDING ELSEWHERE. AND THEN SHE SHE HAS A VOICE IN THAT AFTER SHE'S VOTED ON PLANNING AND ZONING, FINANCING MAY REQUIRE THEM TO GO TO HAVE THIS NONPROFIT. THAT'S AFTER THE FACT. THERE IS NO NOTICE REQUIREMENT THERE. AND SO AND THEN THERE'S JUST A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THAT WE DON'T LIKE. THE CLOSED MEETING ISSUE. WE'LL NEVER GET THAT. THE GIFT CONSIDERATIONS WILL NEVER KNOW IF SOMETHING'S DELIVERED TO 1600 WILSON STREET. YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST THERE'S IT'S JUST SO YES. THE RECUSALS. YES. THE LACK OF VISIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY. YES. THE WHAT ARE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEMBER HAS FIVE ONGOING BUILDING PROJECTS IN ONE WEEK. AND SO THE OTHER CONCERN IS THE POSSIBLE BENEFIT SHE WOULD REAP FROM A CERTAIN VOTE. AND THE POSSIBLE CONFLICT THERE. IS THAT BECAUSE I'VE I'VE MET MISS MCDADE. I'VE WORKED WITH HER. I THINK SHE'S A REPUTABLE PERSON. HOWEVER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING CAREFUL WITH OUR ETHICS SO THAT THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO DISCUSS, BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE. YES, IT DOES MAKE SENSE. AND I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JOSEPH, FOR ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS ELIGIBLE TO BE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING, AS STATED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. FIRST OFF, SHE IS ELIGIBLE TO BE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING PERIOD. THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED, IT WAS REQUESTED VERY LATE. IT WAS VERY REQUESTED VERY LATE THIS AFTERNOON. SO MUCH SO THAT SHE HADN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN ANY INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED. I DID SEE A MESSAGE IN HERE AS SHE SENT SOME INFORMATION IN THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NEEDED, LET HER KNOW. APPARENTLY IT WAS REQUESTED THAT SHE BE THAT IT BE SENT TO THE MAYOR. BUT YOU KNOW, SHE'S AT WORK, SO SHE HADN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEND THAT BACK. I'M SURE THAT SHE WOULD COOPERATE IN EVERY WAY TO GET WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED. MEANWHILE, SHE STILL IS ELIGIBLE, AND THIS HOUSING AUTHORITY IS SEPARATE FROM WHATEVER CITY BUSINESS IS DONE. WE'RE ALL IN HIGH LEVEL AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS. I'VE HAD TO RECUSE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, OTHERS HAVE HAD TO RECUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON. WE HAD ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WAS AFFILIATED WITH UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 
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SITTING UP HERE ON THIS DAIS WHEN HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECUSE. THAT'S WHAT HE DID, RECUSED ALL THE TIME ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST PUTTING UP THIS FACTOR THAT SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM WHAT? THERE ARE FORMER MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THIS DAIS THAT BEING TRYING TO BE APPOINTED TO THEIR BOARD. SO JUST PEOPLE ARE HERE ON THIS LEVEL. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUSH BACK ANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE ON THAT PLANNING AND ZONING. SHE KNOWS THE LANGUAGE. IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME FOR HER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD. SO I THINK THAT IT'S OUR IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO GET HER ON THIS BOARD. AND WE WILL SEE WHAT COMES OF THIS LATER ON. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. MY IMPRESSION OF THE APPLICANT IS THAT SHE'S A HIGH QUALITY PERSON OF CHARACTER WHO WOULD MAKE THE NECESSARY RECUSALS, AND WHICH SURELY WILL BE OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I FEEL THE NEED TO, AND I FEEL COMPELLED TO BE VERY CLEAR. IF I LEAVE TODAY AND I'M CONTACTED BY THE DENTON RECORD-CHRONICLE AND ASKED THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED AT THE DAIS JUST NOW. RECUSED FROM WHAT? MY CONCERN IS, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I CAN'T VOTE FOR SOMETHING. AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT IS OBVIOUSLY PENDING. I LISTED FIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE BUILT THAT ARE THAT ARE ON HER LAST MONTH'S MEETING. THE ETHICS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THAT'S NOT A THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE. THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN IN FOR A MONTH. THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. RECUSE FROM WHAT? SO I CAN'T VOTE TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO AN OBVIOUS AND KNOWN QUESTION. I WON'T DO THAT. THE EXAMPLE PROVIDED IS NOTEWORTHY, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT EXAMPLE PROVIDED IS THAT IT WAS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. WE ARE ALL PLACED HERE BY THE CITIZENS OF DETROIT, AND IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO PLACE SOMEONE HERE. LET THAT BE. THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS A PERSON THAT SERVES, THAT IS NOT ELECTED. IF SOMEONE IS ELECTED, THAT SOLVES ALL THE QUESTIONS. THE CITY OF THE CITIZENS OF DENTON MAKE THAT CHOICE. THIS IS A CHOICE AT THE DAIS. AND AGAIN, I KNEW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S LANGUAGE WOULD BE WEAPONIZED, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, AND FOR THE RECORD, HE STATED HE DID NOT EVALUATE THE ETHICAL EVALUATION OF THIS. THAT IS OUR CHOICE. WE PUT THIS ETHICS ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND FOR US, WE I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD APPLY TO US. WE SHOULD WE SHOULD LEAD THAT WAY. AND SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. I CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION. RECUSE FROM WHAT? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. THE PARTIES IN VESTED IN THOSE PROJECTS AND THE OTHER THREE PROJECTS. ANY OF THE OTHER FOLKS, I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO FOR THAT, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'LL BE A SECOND, BUT I PUT FORWARD A MOTION TO POSTPONE THAT WOULD SUPERSEDE THE MOTION HERE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE UNDERLYING MOTION PROCESS TO EXPEDITE THINGS. I PUT FORWARD A MOTION TO POSTPONE, AND I ASK FOR A SECOND TO IN ITS TO AN EVENT CERTAIN TILL WE GET A LIST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. RECUSE FROM WHAT? SO THAT'S MY MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. I CAN'T RESPOND ON THE SCREEN. SURE, ALL THE PLACES ARE. HOWEVER, I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION. OKAY. SO WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD AND COUNCIL MEMBER BECK. BUT IF WE COULD. YES. SO MOTION BY MAYOR HUDSPETH, SECOND BY THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. AND THIS IS TO POSTPONE TO AN EVENT CERTAIN THE REQUIRED DISCLOSURES FOR THE ARE PROVIDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE US PLEASE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR SO THE MOTION BEFORE THE BODY IS TO POSTPONE TO AN EVENT CERTAIN WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE CANDIDATE AT THIS TIME. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. JUST SIMPLY TO SAY THERE'S A LIST OF PROJECTS. THERE'S A LIST OF DEVELOPERS. 
          THERE'S A LIST OF INTERESTED PARTIES TO WHATEVER DEGREE THE ETHICS ORDINANCE SAYS. I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE VOTE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN FOR THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE TO AN EVENT CERT. 
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AND THAT TIES. SO MR. CITY ATTORNEY. THAT IS A FAILURE OF THE MOTION. SO THE UNDERLYING MOTION WOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. MOVED. I MOVE APPROVAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. I'M HAPPY TO SECOND, I'M ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT ANY CONFLICTS WILL BE RESOLVED AS THEY COME UP, BUT THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS AT THE MOMENT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. AND AGAIN, MY I WANT TO READ. IT'S. IT'S A KNOWN THING. I'VE NOT HEARD ANYONE TELL ME THAT I'M WRONG IN MY INTERPRETATION OF THE ETHICS ORDINANCE SECTION TWO, AND WE PROVIDED THIS A DAY EARLIER TODAY OR YESTERDAY WHENEVER STAFF SENT OUT THE ANSWER. SO EVERYONE HAS THIS INFORMATION. 
          AND SO I HADN'T HEARD. I HADN'T HEARD ANYONE TELL ME I'M WRONG IN MY INTERPRETATION OF SECTION 2273A2 CITY OFFICIALS, WHICH THIS VOTE TRIGGERS, WHO HAVE A CONFLICTING INTEREST IN THE PENDING MATTER, MUST FILE A DISCLOSURE WITH THE CITY AUDITOR. THAT IS FOR THE TIME PERIOD, INCLUDING THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR AND UP TO THE DATE WHERE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ARISES. AND SO IT'S SIMPLY JUST TELL ME I'M INTERPRETING THAT WRONG. TELL ME THE SECTION IN THE ETHICS ORDINANCE THAT SAYS NOTHING TO SEE HERE. YOU'RE YOU'RE CONFLATING THINGS. I JUST DON'T SEE IT. AND SO THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN. EVERYONE'S TALKED ABOUT THE WORTHINESS OF THE, THE NOMINEE UNDISPUTED. I'M SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT A VERY SPECIFIC DUTY REQUIREMENT FOR TRANSPARENCY THAT I THINK THE VOTERS DEMAND OF US AND SET OF SETTING THOSE TWO ASIDE. I BIFURCATE THOSE TWO. SO HAPPY TO LISTEN, BUT OTHERWISE, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE MY INTERPRETATION OF THE ETHICS ORDINANCE IS CORRECT. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WRITTEN BY US AND SHOULD BE HELD TO A HIGH STANDARD BY US REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. LUCKY CITY ATTORNEY. SO THE MOTION THAT WAS JUST VOTED ON WAS A TIE. IF THIS NEXT MOTION IS A TIE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THAT IT IT IT DOESN'T FAIL. IT COMES BACK. IS THAT CORRECT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN I VOTE, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS POTENTIAL IS AFTER THIS VOTE, PLEASE. IT'S EXACTLY RIGHT AND HAPPY TO GO INTO THE EXPLANATION OF THAT IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS. BUT IF THIS WAS A TIE VOTE ON THIS MOTION TO APPROVE THIS NOMINEE, THAT WOULD BE A TIE VOTE ON A MAIN MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE UNDER OUR RULES. COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THEN DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 4 OR 6 MONTHS OR WHATEVER THE RULES ARE, AND THAT HELPS ME CLARIFY BECAUSE I. MY STATEMENT WILL BE THAT I DO THINK THIS IS AS PEOPLE HAVE SAID, AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE IS A IS A WORTHY, SMART, ETHICAL PERSON. HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT TO ONLY GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE ETHICS ORDINANCE. AND IF THERE'S JUST IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PROVIDING SOME PAST RELATIONS AND BUSINESS DEALS, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL BE HOPEFULLY A BIG DEAL. SO JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN WHERE I STAND AND THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. THANK YOU. POINT OF ORDER. PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. IF MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF THE PREVIOUS VOTE ENDED IN A TIE AND THAT VOTE FAILED, WHY WOULD THIS VOTE ENDING IN A TIE NOT ALSO FAIL? YES. NO. WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. SO ON PARLIAMENTARY MATTERS, WE CONSIDER MOTIONS NOT SUBJECT TO OUR FOR COUNCIL MEMBER RULE VOTE. SO UNDER OUR RULES IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR MEMBERS VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE FOR ANY OFFICIAL ACTION OF THE CITY. WE DON'T CONSIDER PARLIAMENTARY MOTIONS, THE OFFICIAL ACTION THAT WOULD REQUIRE FOUR VOTES. OKAY, SO I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO PERSUADE YOU OF ANYTHING, MAYOR, BUT BUT YOU SAID NO ONE HAS GIVEN IT, YOU 
          [03:10:05]
KNOW, CHALLENGED YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE ETHICS ORDINANCE. AND TO ME, IT'S VERY PLAIN THAT THOSE ABSOLUTELY ARE THE RULES THAT APPLY TO CITY OFFICIALS. SHE'S NOT A CITY OFFICIAL NOW. SHE ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THE REQUIRED DISCLOSURES. AND RECUSALS AS A CITY OFFICIAL IF SOMETHING CAME UP. BUT IT'S TO IMPLY THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF A NORMAL PROCESS TO DISCLOSE ANY POSSIBLE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BEFORE SOMEONE IS APPOINTED. THAT'S NOVEL. IT'S NOT BEEN A PRACTICE. IT'S INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE MIGHT TAKE IT UP AT SOME POINT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE RULE NOW. THANK YOU. 
          AND BRIEF RESPONSE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. AND I'LL SEND YOU THE EMAIL SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. THAT'S EXACTLY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S POSITION. I HAVE A NOMINEE PENDING BEFORE THEM. THEY SAY THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICT. THEY WON'T SEE THEM. SO THE PERSON THAT'S BEING GIFTED THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GO FORWARD AND GET VOTED ON DOES NOT EXTEND THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND I WILL SEND YOU THAT EMAIL SO THAT YOU HAVE HAVE IT IN WRITING. BUT THAT'S THAT'S I DIDN'T DISCLOSE THAT. BUT I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS VALID AND DESERVES AN ANSWER. AND SO THE PERSON BENEFITING IS NOT EXTENDING THAT SAME BENEFIT. 
          AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'RE ANY LESSER OF AN ORGANIZATION THAN THEY ARE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM SAID MOST OF MY POINTS I WAS GOING TO MAKE, BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT WE ARE A SEPARATE BODY THAT GOVERNS OURSELVES AND OPERATES UNDER OUR OWN RULES AND FOLLOWS OUR OWN STANDARDS UNDER THE LARGER UMBRELLA OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          BUT WE FOLLOW OUR ORDINANCE AND GUIDELINES AND POLICIES. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SOME OTHER BODY DOES. WE FOLLOW OUR OWN INTERNAL STANDARDS. I'LL BE VOTING FOR THIS. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO KNOW THAT THIS PERSON IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND SHE DOES IS HAS TO TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. IT'S THE BOARD MAKING WHATEVER DECISIONS THAT THEY'RE MAKING. SHE'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTO, JUST IN THE SAME SENSE THAT SARAH HENSLEY IS ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY. SHE'S THE ADMINISTRATOR. SHE'S NOT THE BOARD. SHE DOESN'T MAKE THE RULES. SHE HAS TO FOLLOW THE RULES. AGAIN, WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER STATED, IT'S JUST NOT A REGULAR PRACTICE THAT WE DO A DEEP DIVE INTO SOMEONE'S ETHICAL STANDARDS BEFORE THEY SIT ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THAT WOULD MEAN HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT HERE ASSISTING THE CITY IN DOING NUMEROUS THINGS. SO THAT IS NOT A STANDARD PRACTICE. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PLANNING AND ZONING WAITING. THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. AGAIN, WE'RE SEPARATED. WE'RE A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM THE DENTON HOUSING AUTHORITY. THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT ON THE BOARD THAT THAT TRYING TO BE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD IS A LANDLORD, SECTION EIGHT LANDLORD. HE IS A REALTOR. 
          HE'S A REAL ESTATE PERSON. SO THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE THERE. THIS PERSON IS NOT LIKE THAT. SHE'S AT WORK. SHE TAKES CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF THE DENTON HOUSING AUTHORITY. SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE AND OF COURSE I'LL SUPPORT IT. OKAY, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. 
          AND THE MOTION TIES THREE THREE. IT WILL COME BACK ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA. THAT'S ON THE 
          [5. CONCLUDING ITEMS]
15TH. SO THAT TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS. CONCLUDING ITEMS. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE I'M UNSURE IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE, BUT IF POSSIBLE I WOULD LIKE AN OPINION REGARDING THE DISCLOSURES AND THE ETHICS SECTION THAT WAS QUOTED. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'VE READ RECENTLY, SO I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I COULD MAKE AN 
          [03:15:01]
INFORMED DECISION, WHETHER THAT COMES FROM THE ETHICS BOARD, WHETHER THAT COMES FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I WOULD LIKE SOME DIRECTION THERE SO WE CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT NOW? YEAH. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. 
          GOT IT. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE. 
          COMMUNITY TO TAKE RECYCLING. VERY SERIOUS. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT, SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR RECYCLING EFFORTS. I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT THING. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH ALL OF US, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR OUR PART IN RECYCLING. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE JUST HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAD. THANK YOU. 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING TO SOME SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH GRADERS AT CROSS OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LAST WEEK. WE HAD A BIG TIME. 
          THEY ALL THOUGHT I WAS DONALD TRUMP. WOULD THEY EVER DISAPPOINTED AND I HAVE AN ID, I HAVE AN ID PHOTO. I'M GOING TO USE THIS ONE IN LIEU OF THE ONE THAT THE CITY ISSUED ME. I'D ALSO LIKE TO REPORT THAT WITH 1441 LEFT IN THE SECOND HALF, NORTH TEXAS LEADING THE SEMIFINALS OF THE NIT 3631. NICE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THIS REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE, IS THIS RIGHT? NO. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANT TO ALERT PEOPLE TO A COUPLE OF UPCOMING THINGS. FRIDAY AT THE MARGO JONES PERFORMANCE HALL AT T.W.U IS WHAT IS NOW. I THINK IT'S THE THIRD ANNUAL MARIACHI FOLKLORICO SHOWCASE. SO IT'S FROM LITTLE KIDDOS ALL THE WAY UP TO HOPEFULLY SOME, YOU KNOW, GROWN UP PROFESSIONALS PERFORMING THIS, YOU KNOW, THESE ART FORMS THAT REPRESENT AT LEAST A QUARTER OF DENTON'S POPULATION AND LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES. AND THEN SATURDAY IS THE GREAT BENEFIT LEAGUE GALA, AND I AM A LITTLE INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT I HAVE A PAINTING IN THE AUCTION THERE. I HOPE I HOPE IT SELLS FOR A LOT. IT DOESN'T GO TO ME. IT GOES TO SUPPORT PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, AMONG NONPROFITS. SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT. THANKS. THAT'S GREAT. 
          ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. SO I'LL GET THROUGH THESE AS FAST AS I CAN AGAIN ALREADY. THANK FRENCHIE FOR THE TIE. BRIANNA NICKS IS IN AMERICAN IDOL AND SHE COULD USE OUR SUPPORT. SHE'S HERE FROM DENTON OR NOT FROM DENTON. LIVES IN DENTON AND IS DOING AMAZING THINGS. I THINK NEXT STOP IS HOLLYWOOD. BUT IF YOU COULD, IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED TO FOLLOW ALONG, I GOT TO MEET HER AND HER FAMILY. AMAZING PEOPLE. AND SO I'M SO PROUD OF THE WORK SHE'S DOING AND SO, SO GRACIOUS TO MEET THEM AND SPEND SOME TIME AT THEIR WATCH PARTY LAST NIGHT. BUT BRIANNA NICKS, AMERICAN IDOL, CHEER HER ON AND SUPPORT HER ANY WAY YOU CAN. EXCITED ABOUT THE MEAN GREEN BASKETBALL UPDATE? IF YOU DID NOT KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT JUST KIND OF IT'S UNDERLYING THERE. THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT HELPED PULL TOGETHER THE 311 SYSTEM FOR ALL NON-EMERGENCY THINGS. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY BIG FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND MORE. 
          YOU'LL GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. I WENT OUT TO THE US AVIATION AIRPORT. THEY WERE HAVING THEIR CAREER FAIR AND AMAZING THINGS ARE HAPPENING HERE IN DENTON. IF YOU IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE IT'S AN EIGHT MONTH PROGRAM, THEY COME OUT MAKING UPWARDS OF $30 AN HOUR. IT'S REALLY GREAT THE STUFF THEY LEARN. SO SHOUT OUT TO US AVIATION AND TO RYAN AND THE DIRECTOR THERE AT THE AIRPORT AND ALL THEIR STAFF. JUST GREAT THINGS HAPPENING IN THAT PART OF OUR, OUR CITY. AND THEN I WANT TO TOUCH ON I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE WELCOME AND KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENTS AT BELL ELEMENTARY. SO CATHERINE BELL IS AN AMAZING LADY THERE IN SOUTHEAST DENTON, GOT TO KNOW HER WELL. AND SO THE SCHOOL AFTER HER NAMESAKE. AND SO IT WAS GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF PARTNER WITH THEM AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. LOVE IT. LOVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL QUESTIONS. THEY'RE FANTASTIC. AND THEN CITY OF DENTON TO STAFF TO THE CITY MANAGER TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. WE'RE ONE OF IF I GET THIS RIGHT, EIGHT CITIES THAT WERE RECOGNIZED GETTING A SIX STAR RATING FOR TRANSPARENCY. AND SO THAT CAME OUT AND STATE OF TEXAS ANNOUNCED THAT. AND I JUST THINK THAT IS REALLY COOL. AND CREDIT TO YOU AND ALL THE STAFF THAT MAKE THAT GO. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR HOLDING THAT STANDARD AND KEEPING US AT THAT LEVEL. AND IT JUST MEANS A LOT. AND THEN LASTLY, TO EVERYONE THAT 
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PARTICIPATED, HELPED, VOLUNTEERED, FILL IN THE BLANK AT THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP THIS PAST WEEKEND. WHAT A WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT IS FOR US ALL TO COME TOGETHER AND HELP OUR COMMUNITY STAY CLEAN, IDENTIFY THINGS. YOU JUST SEE THINGS DIFFERENT FROM THAT. FROM THAT VIEWPOINT, WHEN YOU'RE KIND OF WALKING AND LOOKING. AND SO THERE'S A GREAT I THINK THERE'LL BE GREAT THINGS TO COME FROM THAT TO THE BETTERMENT OF OUR CITY, TO THE BETTERMENT OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, TO WHATEVER POLICIES COME FROM JUST, HEY, THESE THINGS NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. AND AT 725 THAT CONCLUDE
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