Sep 16, 2025 City Council on 2025-09-16 2:00 PM

[WORK SESSION BEGINS AT 2:00 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION ROOM]

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THIS MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL. TODAY, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2025. IT'S 2 P.M. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA.

CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SEEING NONE TAKES US TO REPORTS OR FOR CLARIFICATION OF AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ON THIS AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ANY CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS FOR PUBLIC HEARING? INDIVIDUAL

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the City's Water Master Plan. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

WATER MASTER PLAN. >> LET'S SEE HERE. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING. OR AFTERNOON, I SHOULD SAY. YEAH. GOTCHA. I GOT JOE'S DISEASE.

I'LL PULL THIS UP REAL QUICK. ALL RIGHT. I'M STEVEN GAY, WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS GENERAL MANAGER. I'LL BE PRESENTING THE UPDATES TO THE WATER MASTER PLAN TODAY.

WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR CONSULTANT FIRM, KIMLEY-HORN IN THE ROOM. SHOULD WE HAVE SOME HIGHLY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS? WE NEED TO BRING THEM INTO THE FOLD ON. SO THE CURRENT WATER MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2018. NOW MASTER PLANS ARE PLANNING TOOLS. THE WATER MASTER PLAN IS A TOOL THAT PREDICTS GROWTH AND IDENTIFIES WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT IT. THESE GROWTH PROJECTIONS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH CAPITAL PLANS, WHICH START WITH A 25 YEAR PLANNING WINDOW, AND THEN ARE FURTHER REFINED DOWN TO A TEN AND A FIVE YEAR WINDOW, WHERE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE DATA IS A LOT HIGHER. THE WAY THE WATER MASTER PLAN, COMPLETED IN 2018, PROJECTED LOWER GROWTH IN THE OUTER REGIONS OF OUR SYSTEM AND HIGHER GROWTH IN THE CORE. THIS IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING TODAY. THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE IS TO ADDRESS THE SHIFT IN GROWTH TRENDS THAT WE ARE SEEING FROM THE 2018 WATER MASTER PLAN. THIS IMBALANCE IS DRIVEN OR DRIVING THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TREATMENT CAPACITY AND CONVEYANCE INFRASTRUCTURE NOT CONTEMPLATED IN THE 2018 PLAN. THE CURRENT OVERALL GROWTH HAS EXCEEDED PROJECTIONS IN THE WESTERN AND NORTHERN AREAS OF THE CITY, DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY INDUSTRIAL LAND USE. SOUTH OF 380 AND WEST OF I-35, AS WELL AS THE HUNTER AND COAL DEVELOPMENTS TO THE SOUTH. THIS THIS HEAT MAP SHOWS THE CHANGE IN THE GROWTH TREND FROM THOSE PROJECTED IN 2018. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING TODAY. THE AREA IN RED REPRESENTS GROWTH THAT IS FAR ABOVE PROJECTIONS, AND THE BLUE REPRESENTS GROWTH THAT IS WELL BELOW PROJECTIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HIGHER GROWTH AREAS ARE CONCENTRATED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY. WHILE INFILL AND GROWTH OF THE CORE HAS SLOWED. MOST OF THE AREA IN RED, WHERE WE HAVE MOST OF THE AREA IN RED IS WHERE WE HAVE LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEREFORE MAKING IT MORE COSTLY FOR US TO PROVIDE WATER SERVICES. THIS TREND HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TREATMENT CAPACITY AND CONVEYANCE NOT CONTEMPLATED IN THE 2018 PLAN. THESE GROWTH CHARTS COMPARE THE OBSERVED POPULATION GROWTH. THE SOLID LINE WITH IN EACH SERVICE AREA TO THE PROJECTIONS FROM THE 2018 WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. THAT'S THE DASHED LINE. SERVICE AREA ONE A IS 65% BELOW PROJECTIONS. SERVICE AREA ONE B IS 185% ABOVE PROJECTIONS, AND SERVICE AREA TWO IS 14% ABOVE PROJECTIONS. GROWTH IN 2025 IS AGGRESSIVE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE TREND SHOWN THROUGH 2024.

NOW YOU ALL SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE MANY TIMES IN OUR WATER MASTER PLAN AND OUR IMPACT FEE STUDIES. IT REPRESENTS THE MOST CURRENT GROWTH PROJECTIONS THROUGH THE 25 YEAR PLANNING WINDOW. THAT DASHED LINE ON THE DASHED LINE ON THE MAP REPRESENTS OUR CCN, WHICH IS

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THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH HELPS US DETERMINE FUTURE LAND USE AND CATEGORIES, AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED POPULATION. ADDITIONALLY, WE REVIEW HISTORIC AND CURRENT POPULATION PROJECTIONS COLLECTED FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. ALL OF THESE SOURCES ARE THEN COMBINED TO CREATE THE OVERALL POPULATION PROJECTIONS, AND BUILD A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE PREDICTED AND PROJECTED GROWTH.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO REINFORCE MASTER PLANS ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS THAT REQUIRE FREQUENT EVALUATION TO ENSURE THAT TREATMENT AND CONVEYANCE SYSTEMS RESPONSIBLY EVOLVE TO SUPPORT GROWTH, AND ALL TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REQUIREMENTS. NOW, ONCE WE UNDERSTAND HOW QUICKLY WE'RE GROWING, WHERE WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH, WE BUILD A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THE PROJECTS SHOWN IN RED REPRESENTS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDED IN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW. BLUE REPRESENTS PROJECTS NEEDED IN THE TEN YEAR WINDOW, AND THE GREEN REPRESENTS PROJECTS NEEDED WITHIN THE 25 YEAR PLANNING WINDOW. NOW, BECAUSE THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS WERE LOWER IN THE 2018 WATER MASTER PLAN, THE CONVEYANCE AND TREATMENT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE 2018 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WERE LESS INTENSE COMPARED TO TODAY'S PROJECTIONS. THE 2018 WATER MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED A TOTAL OF 248 MILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT OVER THE PLANNING WINDOW. THIS UPDATE IDENTIFIES 1.12 BILLION OF NEEDED INVESTMENT. THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY SEVERAL FACTORS.

MATERIAL COSTS HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED SINCE 2018. THROUGH INFLATION, LABOR COSTS HAVE SKYROCKETED. COVID WAS A CONTRIBUTOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THAT GROWTH IN THE OUTER REGIONS WHERE LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS IS OCCURRING MORE MUCH FASTER THAN PREDICTED, AND WITH DEMANDS EXCEEDING PROJECTIONS, MORE TREATMENT CAPACITY IS REQUIRED, CAUSING FURTHER EXPANSION OF OUR WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES. IN A NUTSHELL, GROWTH PROJECTIONS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS USE A MYRIAD OF INFORMATION TO INFORM THEM.

MASTER PLANS ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS THAT NEED CONSISTENT, CONSTANT REVISION. GROWTH IS OCCURRING IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE OPPOSITE TO THAT OF 28. THE 2018 PROJECTIONS AND INFLATION, LABOR COST AND LIMITED INFRASTRUCTURE IN GROWTH CENTERS IS DRIVING UP COSTS. SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE UPDATE ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN. AND OUR NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE WILL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC UTILITIES BOARD ON THE 29TH, AND HOPE TO HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION ON THE 30TH. WITH THAT,

I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT

TWO. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE THE UPDATES. THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED IN COMPARING THE 2018 MASTER PLAN TO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS THAT YOU'RE REALLY CAREFUL TO SAY, LOOK, NONE OF THE PROJECTIONS WERE LIKE WE WERE PROJECTING.

AND THEREFORE WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE AND ACCOMMODATE THAT. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WE DO HAVE TO I AGREE THAT WE WE DO HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT'S ON THE GROUND AND THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, I DIDN'T SEE IN THIS MASTER PLAN MUCH IN THE WAY OF SORT OF COMBINATIONS OF INCENTIVES AND DISINCENTIVES, SLASH IMPACT FEES, SLASH OTHER MECHANISMS TO TRY TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT FROM HAPPENING WHERE IT WANTS TO VERSUS HAPPENING IN WAYS THAT WE COULD LEVERAGE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THE WAY WE HAD IT IN OUR 2018 PLAN SO THAT WE DON'T GET INTO THESE COST OVERRUNS. CAN YOU CAN YOU DISCUSS THE INCENTIVE AND AND

FEES KIND OF PARADIGMS THAT WE NEED TO SHIFT TO? >> YEAH, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK

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AND THESE THESE STUDIES ARE DESIGNED TO TO MERELY IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, HOW QUICKLY ARE YOU GROWING, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GROW AND WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED. AND IT'S REALLY DRIVEN BY DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK THROUGH US BEING MORE DELIBERATE IN THE FREQUENCY IN WHICH WE ASSESS OR REVIEW THESE PLANS, IT KIND OF KEEPS US CLOSER TO THE MARK.

DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> A LITTLE? I TAKE YOUR POINT, BUT I, I GUESS I'M ENCOURAGING US TO TO NOT MERELY REACT MORE FREQUENTLY BECAUSE THAT STILL MAKES US REACTIVE. AND I KNOW TO SOME DEGREE IN THE UNITED STATES, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW MARKET DRIVEN APPROACHES. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN DO MASTER PLANNING, THE WHOLE POINT OF A PLANNING DOCUMENT IS TO TRY TO. ASSESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE OVERALL BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK IN 2018 AND THE PREVIOUS ONE, WE WERE WE HAD PROPOSED A MORE CENTRALIZED PLAN TO LEVERAGE RESOURCES. SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US GOING FORWARD.

YEAH, I THINK WE DO HAVE TO REACT TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT MAYBE GIVE THIS COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS OPTIONS FOR STAYING ON TARGET. SO AND IF WE CHOOSE TO, NOT IF WE CHOOSE TO GO OFF TARGET, GREAT. THAT'S OUR CHOICE. WE'VE DONE THAT AFFIRMATIVELY ON PURPOSE. BUT THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR OPTIONS ARE LIMITED IN A REGIONAL WATER MASTER PLAN BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL TEND TO JUST DO WELL AND SEPTIC IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, IF WE'RE TOO EGREGIOUS. BUT WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE TO HAVE BOTH A REGIONAL APPROACH AND TRY TO KEEP IT CENTRALIZED WHERE IT'S CHEAPER FOR OUR TAXPAYERS AND RATEPAYERS? AND BECAUSE THIS THIS WE'RE SEEING IN YOUR 2018 VERSUS 2025 NUMBERS, WE'RE SEEING THE IMPACTS OF SPRAWL. AND LET'S NOT LET'S NOT MAKE BONES ABOUT IT. THE FACT THAT WE UNDER GUEST WAS PARTLY DUE TO WHAT YOU SAID, BUT PARTLY DUE TO SPRAWL AND THE IMPACTS

OF SPRAWL. IS THAT WRONG OR AM I WRONG? >> POINT WELL TAKEN. AND WHAT I CAN ALSO SAY IS THAT WE'RE DOING WE'VE TIGHTENED UP THOSE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN US AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SO WE'RE COMMUNICATING MORE, I WOULD SAY MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH REGARDS TO DEVELOPING WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT AND AND HOW THOSE FIT INTO OUR PLAN. SO I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE WRONG. AND WE HAVE TO I WOULD SAY FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM LEVEL SET AND, AND KIND OF GET THE PLANS DONE AND THEN START MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE

IF THAT'S REASONABLE. >> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE

DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU. THE LAST SLIDE, THE PUBLIC UTILITIES BOARD ON THE 29TH AND THE ADOPTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL THE NEXT DAY. IS THAT ENOUGH TIME?

>> YES, SIR. IT IS. I MEAN, THAT'S IT'S IT'S WE'RE IN THAT SEASON OF THOSE BACK TO BACK

MEETINGS. WE WE FEEL THAT IT'S ENOUGH TIME. >> OKAY. THAT SEEMS AWFULLY

FAST TO ME. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT IS WHAT IS THIS STUDY IS UPDATED FOR? TO WHAT END?

IT'S THEN TURNED AROUND AND USED FOR ITS. >> IF IT'S USED IN IT'S PART OF THE INFORMATION GATHER. WE USE IN OUR OUR IMPACT STUDIES AND OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WATER MASTER PLAN, THAT'S WHERE WE GO TO THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW. AND WE LOOK AT WHAT DO WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR WITHIN THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW TO HAVE TO

BUILD. SO IT INFORMS THOSE FUTURE PLANS? OR HELPS TO? YES. >> AND SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THE METHODOLOGY, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE DATA POINTS, IF YOU WILL, THAT WILL BE PLUGGED IN TO THEN.

AND ARE THERE OTHER DATA POINTS THAT ARE NOT LISTED THAT ARE AVAILABLE OR HOW. YEAH. IS IT

PRESCRIBED WHAT YOU CAN USE. >> IT'S NOT PRESCRIBED WHAT WE USE. THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF THE DATA THAT WE USE I GUESS THE HIGHLIGHTS WE YOU KNOW, WE ENGAGE WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ALL THE TIME. WE ENGAGE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHERE. AND SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME REALLY MORE RIGID EXAMPLES OF WHERE WE GET

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THE DATA WE HARVEST THE DATA FROM. >> GOT IT. OKAY, THEN I'M. I MAY HAVE I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. I MAY HAVE SOME SOME THOUGHTS AROUND HOW TO OR WHAT DATA POINTS I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT I JUST NEED TO THINK THROUGH THAT AND UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. SO I WON'T DO IT HERE LIVE. BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP. SO THANK YOU

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on a resolution declaring June as Pride Month in the City of Denton. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRISTY FOGEL AS CHIEF OF STAFF. AS A REMINDER, ON JUNE 17TH, COUNCIL MEMBER BECK PRESENTED A TWO MINUTE PITCH TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION NAMING RECOGNIZING THE MONTH OF JUNE AS PRIDE MONTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON. AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL DID NOT REACH THE NECESSARY CONSENSUS OF SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLACE THE PROPOSAL ON A FUTURE AGENDA AS A RESOLUTION. HOWEVER, A CONSENSUS OF FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS PROVIDED TO SUPPORT MOVING THE PITCH FORWARD. ON JULY 18TH, STAFF ISSUED AN ISR IN THE FRIDAY REPORT, AND THEN IN AUGUST, THE AGENDA COMMITTEE ROUTED THE PITCH TO A COUNCIL WORK SESSION FOR CONSIDERATION. SO TODAY WE'RE JUST HERE TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. A CONSENSUS OF FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS IS NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION. SO COUNCIL'S OPTIONS ARE BRING A RESOLUTION FORWARD FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. A DRAFTED RESOLUTION WAS PROVIDED BY THE REQUESTING COUNCIL MEMBER. SO ANY DIRECTION YOU MAY HAVE ON THAT LANGUAGE AS WELL. AND THEN BRINGING THE RESOLUTION FORWARD FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. AND THEN THE SECOND OPTION IS DO NOT BRING A RESOLUTION FORWARD FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. AND I'LL JUST START BY SAYING I'M OPTION TWO. THIS IS NOT A CORE FUNCTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON. WE DON'T WE DON'T TAKE THESE STEPS FOR ANY OTHER CLASS. THE CITY IS VERY FORWARD THINKING THAT WAY AND MODELS ALL THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING. BUT IN A TIME WHERE, I MEAN, IT'S JUST. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CITY, THIS IS GOING TO IT'S DIVISIVE. AND I DON'T SAY THAT LIGHTLY. I SAY THAT WE DON'T DO BLACK HISTORY MONTH. WE DON'T DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS. NONE OF OUR PEER CITIES HAVE DONE THIS. NONE OF OUR OTHER EXISTING GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES IN THE CITY OF DENTON HAVE DONE IT. THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S NO COMPARISON. AND AGAIN, IT BRINGS IN ADDITIONAL STRIFE. AND I'LL SAY THIS IT FOR THOSE THAT ARGUE ON THE OTHER. I DON'T KNOW THE TITLE OF IT, BUT I'LL JUST SAY. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IF THERE'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, YOU MIGHT AS WELL PET IT. I WAS I WAS BORN BLACK. I, I DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO GO BACK AND NOT BE BLACK. I, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A SIMPLE AS PEOPLE SAY AS FAR AS A, IT'S NOT A RACE THING. IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BORN CERTAIN WAYS I GET IT. BUT YOU'RE ALSO YOU HAVE THERE'S CHOICES MADE IN LIFE AND AND THOSE CHOICES. I'M NOT TAKING A POSITION ON ANY OF THOSE. EVERYONE'S FREE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THEY NEED TO MAKE.

BUT THERE'S CERTAIN DECISIONS YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE. DNA RACE THOSE YOU'RE BORN IN THEIR INHERENT. AND SO FOR ME, I JUST DON'T WANT TO ADD ANOTHER THING THAT DIVIDE THAT IS DIVISIVE.

AND ANYONE THAT SAYS IT'S NOT DIVISIVE, THEN YOU TELL ME THAT 160,000 PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF DENTON AGREE. AND I GET IT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES. BUT THIS IS THIS IS UNFORCED ERROR.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE. AND I'M SURE I'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY IF SOMEBODY POPS OFF ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THAT THAT TAKES ISSUE WITH ME. I JUST GAVE MY PERSONAL VIEWPOINT. AND SO ANY, ANY ARROWS SHOT THIS WAY WILL BE RETURNED. SO ANYONE ELSE

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. >> OPTION ONE. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE

DISTRICT FOR. >> OPTION TWO, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. BEAR WITH ME.

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ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO? >> THANK YOU. I THIS THIS WAS A THIS RESOLUTION WAS SOMETHING THAT I WORKED ON WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. IT REPRESENTS A COMBINATION OF EFFORTS AND THOUGHTS OF OF PEOPLE ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY, ALLIES, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THEMSELVES. IT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH, AS WE STATE IN THE WHEREASES SORT OF INCLUSIVE NATURE OF OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK IT JUST REALLY HELPS EXEMPLIFY WHO WE ARE TO TO MAKE THIS POINT THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT'S THAT'S WELCOMING AND INCLUSIVE. AND SO I THINK IT'S IT'S EASY ENOUGH FOR US TO TAKE THIS STEP, RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO LIVE IN A SHARED COMMUNITY. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US FOR TO TO CELEBRATE EACH OTHER AND OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. AND I ENCOURAGE US TO TO BRING THIS FORWARD. I'M I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD GET US TO CONSENSUS, BUT I'M I'M

CURRENTLY STARTING OFF AT OPTION ONE. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE?

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. >> SORRY. COUNCIL PERSON. CHESTER, I HAVE A QUESTION TO START WITH AND THEN I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. IS THIS ANTICIPATED TO BE FOR NEXT JUNE, THAT THIS WOULD BE THE RESOLUTION FOR JUNE OF 2026, OR IS THIS RETROACTIVE TO THE LAST JUNE?

>> SO I I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO LEGAL ON THE RETROACTIVE OF IT, BUT IS AS WRITTEN AS DRAFTED BY THE PROPOSING COUNCIL MEMBER. IT DOES NOT HAVE A DATE SET ON IT. SO IT WOULD, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BE IN PERPETUITY FOR ANY JUNE MOVING FORWARD. AND.

>> IT DOESN'T HAVE A DATE SET TO IT. I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER BECK. HE'S THE ONE THAT

DRAFTED IT. AS TO WHAT THE INTENT IS. OKAY. >> YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE FOR

DISTRICT TWO. >> YEAH, I DIDN'T PUT A DATE ON IT.

>> OKAY. SO I MY DIRECTION WOULD BE I AM. IN FAVOR OF A PRIDE DECLARATION. WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST. I'VE NOT HAD ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THAT. I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK IT HURTS TO PUT A FLAG IN THE GROUND AND JUST SAY WE ARE INCLUSIVE OF OF ALL CHOICES THAT PEOPLE MAKE AND WANT TO LIVE HERE SO LONG AS THEY ARE ABIDING BY OUR LAWS. I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC SUGGESTED CHANGES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BECK CAN CONSIDER, AND THIS IS AFTER SOME RESEARCH ON MY OWN. AS WELL AS SPEAKING TO MEMBERS OF THE. PERTINENT COMMUNITY. FIRST, I WOULD SAY THAT THE THE LAUNDRY LIST THAT'S INCLUDED, I THINK ACTUALLY COULD SERVE TO FIGHT AGAINST INCLUSION INSTEAD OF FOR INCLUSION. I THINK THAT ONCE YOU START NAMING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THE VERNACULAR KEEPS CHANGING AND THERE KEEPS, THERE IS ARE ADDITIONS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY MADE AS FAR AS DIFFERENT KINDS OF AVENUES THAT PEOPLE OR ROOMS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN. SO I WOULD PERSONALLY SUGGEST THAT WE LEAVE IT TO THE LGBTQ. PLUS, I THINK THAT THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE. AND I THINK IF YOU IF YOU CONTINUE TO ADD ON TO THAT GENERAL LIST, THAT EVERY YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER GROUPS COME FORWARD AND SAY, WHAT ABOUT THIS GROUP? WHAT ABOUT THAT GROUP OR WHAT ABOUT ANOTHER GROUP? SO I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, AS OPPOSED TO CALLING OUT A SPECIFIC ONE SPECIFIC GROUP THAT WE JUST SAY LGBTQ PLUS, AND I THINK THAT THAT DOES. AND FROM CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT THE AGREEMENT IS THERE, THAT I THINK THAT THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS AND THAT IT INCLUDES THE DIFFERENT GROUPS. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, IN MY OPINION, THE PARAGRAPH REGARDING THE UNDESIRABLE AND ONGOING PUBLIC BEHAVIOR IN TEXAS THAT CONTINUES TO THREATEN THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND RIGHTS OF DENTON'S TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY AND RUN COUNTER TO DENTON VALUES AS INCLUSIVE AND LGBTQ. I2S PLUS WELCOMING CITY. I PERSONALLY WOULD STRIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO GIVE THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE AN INCLUSIVE PLACE

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WE'RE IN FAVOR OF CELEBRATING THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, THE HISTORY, WHAT THEY'VE OVERCOME, AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CITY AND RECOGNIZING THEM. BUT I JUST HAVE I DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE LANGUAGE. SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S MY DISCUSSION POINTS AT THIS TIME.

>> OKAY. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

>> SORRY, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER, JUST BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING POINT THAT CERTAINLY PERTAINS TO ME. I SIMPLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THOSE INITIALS STAND FOR. COULD SOMEBODY CLEAR THAT UP,

PLEASE? >> NOT. NOT TODAY. OUR STAFF CAN FOLLOW UP AFTER THE FACT OR

SOMETHING. YEAH. >> SO I, I CAN READ FROM THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT

DEFINES EACH OF THE INITIALS IF THAT'S HELPFUL. >> DO YOU CONCUR WITH THOSE DEFINITIONS? MEANING I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO. YEAH. YES OKAY. SO COUNCIL

MEMBER. >> HOLLAND SORRY. >> WHAT THE INITIALS STAND FOR.

LESBIAN GAY BISEXUAL TRANSGENDER QUEER INTERSEX ASEXUAL TWO-SPIRIT PLUS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE SEEING? NONE. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE.

MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. DO DO WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS? A RESOLUTION FOR PROCLAIMING SOMETHING SOMETHING MONTH FOR FOR ANYTHING. DO WE KNOW JUST WHERE WE ALWAYS DECLARE WHATEVER MONTH? LIKE, I KNOW WE HAVE WATER MONTH AND

THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW WE USUALLY DO IT AS A RIGHT. >> THOSE ARE TYPICALLY MAYORAL PROCLAMATIONS. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE BOOKS AS AN ORDINANCE OR

RESOLUTION AT THIS TIME, BUT STAFF CAN. LOOK INTO THAT. >> OKAY. AND HAVE WE EVER BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW THIS CAME ABOUT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE THE PRIDE MONTH PROCLAMATION HAD HAPPENED BEFORE AND THIS YEAR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. HAVE WE EVER LOOKED INTO OR IS IT AN OPTION AS WELL, THAT LET'S SAY, A FUTURE MAYOR IS NOT COMFORTABLE DOING A PARTICULAR PROCLAMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, A BACKUP COULD VOLUNTEER POTENTIALLY. HAS THAT EVER BEEN DISCUSSED OR IS THAT A POSSIBILITY AS WELL, OR IS THAT JUST FULLY NOT AN OPTION EITHER?

I SHOULD ASK Y'ALL AHEAD OF TIME. SORRY, NO. >> I CAN SPEAK TO THE CHARTER.

GIVES PROCLAMATION POWER TO THE MAYOR. TO THE MAYOR IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO

THAT. OKAY. >> WELL, GIVEN THAT I, I WOULD BACK UP WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER WAS SAYING ABOUT IT DOES GET ADDED TO OVER TIME. THE PLUS WOULD TAKE CARE OF ANY ADDITIONS, SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THOUGHT THE SAME THING ABOUT GENDERED LANGUAGE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY ANYBODY'S GENDER. WE'LL JUST KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, NEUTRAL, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETIMES A WOMAN OR A MAN AND JUST YOU CAN JUST NOT EVEN USE THE GENDER AT ALL. AND JUST WHOEVER'S IN THAT SEAT. SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT AS WELL. AND THEN YOU SAID, OH, THE ATTACK, I MEAN, SO I'D BE I'D BE OPEN TO WORKSHOPPING IT IF COUNCIL MEMBER BECK WAS OKAY WITH MAKING AT LEAST THOSE TWO CHANGES TODAY, I'D BE HAPPY TO

SUPPORT IT TODAY AS WELL. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE FOR REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE?

>> MAYOR, CAN WE GET SOME CLARITY ON WHETHER DOCTOR BECK IS GOING TO GO TO THE CHANGES

BEFORE I SPEAK ABOUT HIM? >> NO, GO RIGHT AHEAD. I JUST WANT TO GET EVERYONE'S UNBIASED.

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THINGS? LET'S GET IT ONE FATAL SWOOP. GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> I WAS TRYING TO AVOID SPEAKING ON IT FOR A THIRD TIME IF HE WAS AMENABLE TO IT, BUT I WILL SPEAK ON IT A THIRD TIME.

THAT'S FINE. I TOO AM OKAY WITH THE GENDER LANGUAGE CHANGES AND THE PLUS JUST I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT. SINCE YOU ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS MOTION FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO BE OPTION ONE, OBVIOUSLY. AND MAYOR, YOU BRING UP AN INTERESTING POINT. WOULD YOU SUPPORT A COUNCIL RESOLUTION SUPPORTING BLACK HISTORY MONTH? I FEEL LIKE I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT SINCE WE DON'T DO THIS FOR OTHER FOLKS, WE SHOULDN'T DO

THIS FOR THIS. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING YOUR REMARKS? >> YOU ARE CORRECT, I MY CORE FEELING IS WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF SHOUTING OUT RACES. IT'S JUST TOO IT'S TOO COMPLEX. IT'S TOO. IT'S JUST A LOT. SO YEAH, NO, I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF ANY OF THEM.

AS CASE IN POINT, WE DON'T DO THEM. BUT YEAH. SO NO, IT'S A SHORT ANSWER. NOT I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF OF. ANYTHING OTHER THAN BENTON CITIZENS, RESIDENTS, HIGH LEVEL CATCH EVERYBODY. NO ONE NO ONE GETS UPSET IF YOU SAY YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF BENTON.

>> I HEAR YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER ON THAT. I'M GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY OPTION ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHY WE DO THIS. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PRIDE MONTH, I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT CELEBRATING OUR LGBTQ FOLKS. IT'S ALSO ABOUT RAISING AWARENESS TO THE ISSUES THAT OUR LGBTQ FOLKS DEAL WITH IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO CONSTANTLY BE REMINDED ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT THEY FACE EVERY DAY, LIVING THEIR LIVES AS THEY WANT TO, BECAUSE DISCRIMINATION IS REAL. WHETHER OR NOT WE CHOOSE TO ADMIT IT, WHETHER WE CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT OR HIDE OUR FACES, BURY OUR HEADS IN THE SAND. DISCRIMINATION IS A THING AND IT HAPPENS. PRIDE MONTH IS A WAY FOR US TO BUILD COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR LGBTQ FOLKS. IT'S A WAY FOR US TO ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT ACCEPTANCE OF ALL PEOPLE, INCLUDING OUR LGBTQ FOLKS. THIS IS THE REASON THAT WE DO THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US. AND AND MAYOR, NO ARROWS, BUT WE GOT TO BE CONSISTENT. I FIND IT DISTURBING THAT. AS A BLACK MAN, YOU COULD USE YOUR RACE TO THEN DEFLECT AWAY FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF A PERSON WHO'S IN ANOTHER MARGINALIZED GROUP. THAT'S VERY SAD. IT'S SMALL AND TINY. I THINK WE GOT TO BE BETTER THAN THAT. THE BEAUTY OF BEING BLACK AND BROWN IS THAT WE TOUCH EVERYTHING. WE EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING. BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS ARE LGBTQ FOLKS, HISPANIC FOLKS, LGBTQIA FOLKS, WHITE FOLKS, LGBTQ FOLKS, LGBTQIA FOLKS ENCOMPASS EVERY SINGLE RACE IN SOCIETY. IT'S NOT. IN FACT, IT'S NOT IN FACT, LIMITING. IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING. WHEN WE START TO REALIZE THAT MANY OF US ARE LGBTQ OR WE HAVE LGBTQ MEMBERS IN THIS FAMILY, STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, THERE ARE LGBTQ FOLKS IN THIS ROOM.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY CHOOSE TO IDENTIFY PUBLICLY, THEY ARE IN THIS ROOM. IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE INCLUSIVE, THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO BRING EVERYBODY IN. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT DENTON IS THAT EVERYBODY IS INCLUDED. IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY, THAT MEANS ALL OF US. SO I'M OPTION ONE WITH THOSE EDITS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHETHER

OR NOT DOCTOR BECK SUGGESTS THOSE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF FIRST. PAST TWO YEARS. DID WE RECEIVE A PRIDE PROCLAMATION REQUEST?

>> WE RECEIVED ONE THIS YEAR, 2020 2:05 YEARS. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IN 2024 WE DID NOT.

OKAY, I CANNOT SPEAK. I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME WE DID ONE WAS 2022.

>> CORRECT? >> THE LAST TIME WE HAD A REQUEST FOR ONE?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THIS BODY WAS HAS BEEN HERE. DID ANY COUNCIL

MEMBER IN 22. NO. 23 AND 24 REQUEST A PRIDE PROCLAMATION? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CITY ATTORNEY. WHAT WHAT IS THE CITY? WHAT CITY ORDINANCES OR RULES CAN WE PUT IN PLACE REGARDING RACE, GENDER, ANY OF THOSE THINGS? WHAT WHAT SPECIFIC ORDINANCES CAN WE PUT IN PLACE TO TO ADDRESS THAT POPULATION OF THE CITY OF

DENTON? >> THAT'S SUCH AN OPEN QUESTION, MAYOR. I HATE TO EVEN TRY TO

START TO FORMULATE AN ANSWER TO THAT. >> WELL, THE SHORT ANSWER IS FOR THE UTILITY BILL. CAN WE ADJUST ACCORDING TO THOSE ISSUES? NO STREETS BASED ON

THOSE ISSUES? >> NO. >> DO THE POLICE MAKE CHOICES

BASED ON THOSE DECISIONS? >> NO. >> OKAY. PARKS, IS THERE A PARK

ACCESS THAT THAT IS LIMITED BY THAT? >> NO.

>> OKAY. SO CITY LIBRARY IS ARE YOU LIMITED? >> RIGHT.

>> YEAH. SO SO THERE WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS THAT WAY. AND SO THAT'S. IT IS DIVISIVE. AND.

IT'S JUST THE CURRENT NEED IS TO GET BACK TO NOT BEING DIVISIVE. MY THOUGHTS AND AGAIN NO OTHER NOTHING. NO ONE ELSE IN THE CITY OF DENTON. NOT ONE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY HAS TAKEN A STEP, NOT ONE. THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT CHAMPION A LOT OF PEOPLE. SCHOOL DISTRICT TO UNT GO OUTSIDE OF CITY. CITY OF LOUISVILLE, CITY OF YOU NAME IT. BECAUSE I CHECKED NOT ONE PROCLAMATION, NOT ONE STEP HERE. NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE DID THE ABORTION RESOLUTION. NO DIFFERENT THAN WE DID THE MEDICAID FOR ALL RESOLUTION. AGAIN, DIDN'T JUST GETS OUTSIDE OF THE LANE, AND I HAVE PLENTY TO SAY. I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH. I DISAGREE WITH.

THE ASSERTIONS MADE. I DON'T KNOW WHY. A COUNCIL MEMBER FEELS THE NEED TO INVOKE ME AND GIVE ME A HARD TIME AT EVERY TURN. THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I'LL DEAL WITH IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND TAKE THAT UP AS NEEDED. SO THAT SAID, THANK YOU FOR THOSE

ANSWERS. REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ANSWERS. ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE A WHOLE NONDISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE AGAINST FOR AND NOTING THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF PROTECTED CLASSES. SO I THINK IF WE'D GIVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY AN OPPORTUNITY TO DESCRIBE HOW WE LEGISLATE PROTECTED CLASSES, WE WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A MORE FULL ANSWER. THAT SAID, BY MY HEAD, I, I, I HEAR FOUR VOTES FOR A MODIFIED MODIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO SIMPLIFY THE THE ACRONYM TO TO DROP THE ONGOING BEHAVIOR, WHEREAS AND TO DROP THE GENDER CHARTER LANGUAGE. WHEREAS I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THE BULK OF THE INCLUSIVITY, THE BULK OF THE MESSAGING, THE BULK OF THE NATURE THAT SAYS, WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY DO WE PROFESS TO BE IS THAT, AS I CAN'T, I THINK MAYBE IT WAS COUNCILOR JESTER. WE TALKED ABOUT LIVING DOCUMENT, I GUESS ACTUALLY, THAT WAS MR. GAY IN LIVING DOCUMENTS, BUT SOMEONE EARLIER TALKED ABOUT LIVING DOCUMENTS. THIS CAN BE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF LIVING DOCUMENT. I ELEVATE YOU TO COUNCILOR. SORRY STEPHEN. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO START WITH THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE. AND IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL CHANGES GOING FORWARD, BY MY COUNT, THAT'S FOR I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCILOR BYRD WOULD BE AMENABLE TO JUMPING ON BOARD, SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE FIVE FOR

THE MODIFIED LANGUAGE SUGGESTED BY COUNCILOR JESTER. >> THIS WOULD COME BACK, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON SOMETHING WE HADN'T SEEN. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK?

>> IT CAN BE. SO THE PLAN WAS TO BRING IT BACK AS EITHER A CONSENT OR AN ITEM, AND NOT FOR ANOTHER WORK SESSION. YOU HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THE BACKUP WITH THOSE, AND SO WE CAN UPDATE THAT AND SEND THAT OUT TO COUNCIL WITH THOSE UPDATES PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION.

>> YEAH I DIDN'T YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. MAYBE YOU CAN SAY IT BETTER

THAN ME. >> NO. AND AND FORGIVE ME IF THIS IS GOING OUTSIDE THE RULES.

BUT IF, IF COUNCIL MEMBER BECK WOULD BE AMENABLE. I AM THE ONE THAT MADE THE SUGGESTIONS. IT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER ON THE WORDSMITHING

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>> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US GO BACK AND FORTH. I THINK. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CHANGES ARE SIMPLE ENOUGH. REDUCE THE ACRONYM SIZE, DELETE THE TWO WHEREASES THAT WERE PROBLEMATIC FOR YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT WE'LL SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT THAT IN THE LONG RUN IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, BUT FOR ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE THOSE ARE DE MINIMIS CHANGES THAT WE COULD THEN TAKE STRAIGHT TO A VOTE. SO I WOULD SUPPORT MAKING THOSE SIMPLE CHANGES AND, AND DIRECT. SO AND IT SOUNDS LIKE OTHERS WERE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT. SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL DIALOG. I THINK WE'RE HASHING IT OUT HERE AND CAN BRING SOMETHING FORWARD FOR CONSENT. OR I SEE I IMAGINE IF IT'S CONSENT IT WILL PROBABLY BE PULLED. SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT. IT'S PROBABLY I SEE. BUT IF THE APPROPRIATE LEGAL PLACE IS CONSENT AND THEN

PULL IT, GREAT. WHATEVER. >> UNDERSTOOD. AND THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU COULD SEND THAT OUT, PLEASE. THAT'D BE GOOD. YES, SIR. AND THEN.

[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the proposed expenditures of the Tourist and Convention Fund (Hotel Occupancy Tax) for FY 2025-26. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

EXPENDITURES ON THE TOURIST AND CONVENTION FUND. >> OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHRISTINE TAYLOR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. LAST WEEK AT OUR SEPTEMBER 9TH BUDGET WORK SESSION, THE CITY COUNCIL PROVIDED CONSENSUS TO HOLD ONE ADDITIONAL WORK SESSION TODAY PRIOR TO THE BUDGET ADOPTION THIS EVENING. THE GOAL OF THIS DISCUSSION TODAY IS TO FINALIZE THE ALLOCATION WITH THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET FROM THE TOURIST AND CONVENTION FUND TO THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE 2526 BUDGET. BASED ON THE THE DISCUSSION LAST WEEK, WE'VE PREPARED TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION. THE FIRST ONE. SO I'LL I'LL GO OVER THIS MATRIX FIRST. SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN. HONING IN ON WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED. BUT ON THE LEFT WE'VE LISTED OUT EACH ORGANIZATION THAT APPLIED WHAT THEY RECEIVED IN 2025 IS THAT FIRST COLUMN. THE SECOND COLUMN REPRESENTS, WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION FOR FUNDING, WHAT THEY REQUESTED. THE NEXT COLUMN AFTER SCORING THOSE APPLICATIONS, THIS WAS THE BASELINE RECOMMENDATION FOR FUNDING. THE NEXT COLUMN INDICATES AFTER IT WENT THROUGH COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WAS. AND THEN THE LAST TWO HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED ARE BASED OFF WHAT WE HEARD LAST WEEK. SOME CHANGES. SO WE'LL WALK THROUGH EACH OF THOSE. SO THE FIRST SCENARIO, EACH SCENARIO CONTEMPLATES REMOVING THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM ENTIRELY.

AND A REALLOCATION OF THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM FUNDS AND A PORTION OF THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS. IN SCENARIO ONE, THERE IS AN INCREASE OF $200,000 FOR THE DENTON COUNTY OFFICE OF HISTORY AND CULTURE. THERE WAS SOME INDICATION TO EXPLORE ADDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE DENTON FESTIVAL FOUNDATION, WHICH IS ARTS AND JAZZ, AND THE HOLIDAY LIGHTING FESTIVAL ASSOCIATION. BOTH OF THOSE INCREASES REPRESENT $25,000 INCREASE ON EACH OF THOSE. THE DENTON PARKS FOUNDATION FOR THEIR DOG DAYS EVENT, A $30,000 INCREASE, AND THE TEXAS VETERANS HALL OF FAME FOUNDATION REPRESENTS A $70,000 INCREASE. WE HAVE ZEROED OUT OR DECREASED THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM BY THE $291,000 AND DECREASED THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS BY $58,893, STILL LEAVING A CONTINGENCY AMOUNT OF $72,000. THE SECOND SCENARIO CONTEMPLATES A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS A $300,000 ALLOCATION TO THE DENTON COUNTY OFFICE OF HISTORY AND CULTURE, A $10,000 INCREASE TO THE DENTON FESTIVAL FOUNDATION AND THE DENTON HOLIDAY FESTIVAL ASSOCIATION, KEEPING THE DOG DAYS AMOUNT OF 30,000. THE TEXAS VETERANS HALL OF FAME AT 70,000, REDUCTION OF THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, AND THEN DRAWS DOWN THE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT TO A LITTLE OVER $2,000. SO LOOKING FOR DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON THESE TWO OPTIONS AND SCENARIOS. AGAIN LAST WEEK WE DID AGREE TO LEAVE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT, THE TOTAL AMOUNT THE SAME, AND JUST WORK WITHIN THE ALLOCATIONS WITHIN THE BUDGET, WHICH IS PART OF

THE ADOPTION PROCESS THIS EVENING. >> SO I'M GOING TO START BY SAYING I SUPPORT SCENARIO TWO. IT I THINK IS JUST CRITICAL FROM A PARTNERSHIP STANDPOINT

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DISTRICT SIX. >> COUNCILPERSON. JESTER. FIRST I WANT TO THANK STAFF. WE GAVE YOU A LOT OF FEEDBACK. AND I'M I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE CREATIVE WAY THAT YOU HAVE ADDRESSED WHAT WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONCERNS THAT YOU HEARD. AND SO FIRST, JUST A VERY SINCERE THANK YOU THAT THAT CAN'T HAVE BEEN EASY TO DO. AND NONE OF THESE CHOICES HAVE BEEN EASY. THEY'RE ALL OUR BABIES, AND WE WANT EVERYONE TO RECEIVE WHAT THEY NEED FROM US.

BUT THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. MY DIRECTION WOULD BE THE OPTION. AND SCENARIO TWO AND OF OF BIGGEST CONCERN TO ME IS THAT DENTON COUNTY OFFICE OF HISTORY AND CULTURE, THE MORE I'VE LOOKED INTO IT, YOU KNOW, THEY DO MAINTAIN THE COURTHOUSE ON THE SQUARE, WHICH IS THE BASIS AND AND WHAT A LOT OF OUR OTHER THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE FUNDING THE BASIS OF WHERE THAT STARTS AND WHAT THAT REVOLVES AROUND, WHETHER IT BE HALLOWEEN OR TWILIGHT TUNES OR THE MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION'S WORK. I MEAN, ALL OF THIS IS CONTINGENT ON THE COURTHOUSE ON THE SQUARE AND THE LAWNS BEING AVAILABLE, AS WELL AS THE MUSEUM AND THE PLACES THEY HAVE TO VISIT. THE CONVENTIONS THAT COME IN, THEY'RE ALWAYS TRANSPORTED. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS, IS TRANSPORTING THEM DOWN TO THE SQUARE AREA, TO THE MUSEUM, TO THE DISCOVER DENTON, TO THE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS AND THINGS. SO, I MEAN, I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT THE MAINTAINING OF THAT, OF COURSE, IN $300,000, DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, OF COURSE, AND ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS. THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE COUNTY PARK, WHICH HOUSES THE HISTORICAL PARK. WHEN WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WE HAD THE FUNDS TO MOVE THE HOUSE, THE COUNTY STEPPED IN AND SAID, WE WILL MOVE IT TO THE HISTORICAL PARK, WHICH THEY MAINTAIN THROUGH THIS OFFICE. THEY'VE GOT A HOUSE FROM THE ORIGINAL QUAKER TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY HAVE SAVED, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CITY OF DENTON'S HISTORY. SO THEY HAVE BEEN A REALLY GOOD PARTNER COMING THROUGH FOR US. THEY'VE ALSO, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, I THINK IT'S OVER $54 MILLION IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT THEY'VE CONTRIBUTED TOWARD STREETS THAT ARE NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. BUT WE ARE THE COUNTY SEAT AND THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US. WE GO TO THEM AND ASK TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON INCENTIVES FOR THINGS THAT WILL HELP THE CITY OF DENTON, NOT NECESSARILY THE WHOLE COUNTY. SO I, I BELIEVE THAT GOING AND GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE AWARDED LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR, THERE'S NO GROUP THAT WAS AWARDED AS MUCH THAT THEN WENT TO ZERO IN THE INITIAL THE FIRST LOOK COMING OUT OF COMMITTEE, THEN THE DENTON COUNTY OFFICE OF HISTORY AND CULTURE. SO I THINK FOR FOR MANY REASONS, THE VETERANS HALL OF FAME, THE PARKS FOUNDATION, HOLIDAY FOUNDATION, DIDN'T FESTIVAL FOUNDATION, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE GOING TO DIP IN OTHER PLACES. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT I BELIEVE IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR

CITIZENS, IT'S OPTION IN SCENARIO TWO. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? DIRECTION

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE THEN TO. >> CHRISTINE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, WHAT DOES $15,000 MEAN FOR FESTIVAL

AND HOLIDAY? >> WELL, IT CERTAINLY CLOSES THEIR GAP ON ON WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. THEY THEY DID GET A FUNDING DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. BUT WE HAVE SEEN EXTERNAL FUNDRAISERS GOING ON. SO IT IT CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTES TOWARDS CLOSING

THEIR FUNDING GAP FOR BOTH OF THEIR EVENTS. >> ANY CHANCE THAT YOU ALL

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DECREASE TO BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. >> I'VE NOT HAD A CONVERSATION WITH EITHER OF THEM, BUT I WILL

SAY PERSONALLY, BUT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH. >> SOMEONE ON.

>> THE ARTS AND JAZZ FESTIVAL. ON WHAT WHAT WHAT OTHER THINGS CAN WE DO? REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT, THE SIZE, THE AREA OF THE PARK THAT THEY UTILIZE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, AS WE MENTIONED, ON KIND OF RIGHT SIZING THAT PUBLIC SAFETY NEED. SO THERE HAVE BEEN VARIOUS ADJUSTMENTS. AND I THINK THE HOLIDAY FESTIVAL FOUNDATION IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF, BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT RELOCATING THAT EVENT FROM THE SQUARE TO

THE QUAKER TOWN PARK. >> DO WHEN IS THIS EXPECTED TO COME TO US IN A PUBLIC MEETING

FOR A VOTE TONIGHT? NO, NO, NO, I MEAN. >> THE INDIVIDUAL AGREEMENTS WILL TYPICALLY HAVE THEM IN OCTOBER, BUT THAT'S THE INDIVIDUAL FUNDING AGREEMENT.

SO TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST FINALIZING THE BUDGET AMOUNT SO WE CAN APPROVE THE

BUDGET THIS EVENING. >> IN THE EVENT THAT EITHER OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS CAN ABSOLUTELY NOT OPERATE WITH A $15,000 CUT AND THE FUNDING THAT WE APPROPRIATE TO THEM, IS

THERE ANY TYPE OF CONTINGENCY. >> THIS CONTEMPLATES A SMALL CONTINGENCY $2,000. OKAY. AND ALSO FUNDS ARE RETURNED IF THEY CAN'T HOLD THE EVENT. AND THIS IS FOR PROGRAM YEAR 26. SO THIS

IS FOR NEXT. >> NEXT YEAR. >> YES. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MCGARVEY I SPECIFICALLY SPOKE WITH THE THE ARTS AND JAZZ AND THEY HAVE REDUCED THEIR STAGES AND THEY'VE PICKED UP SOME SPONSORS. SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE HOLIDAY FESTIVAL, BUT I CAN SAY THAT ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY WE GIVE THEM IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL. OKAY. AND SO I THINK I

THINK THEY'LL BE OKAY. >> I'M OPTION TWO. I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF SOMEONE FROM STAFF AT LEAST REACHED OUT TO THEM AND, YOU KNOW, FIGURED OUT IF THERE'S ANY MORE THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN. THOSE EVENTS CAN STILL BE SUCCESSFUL. SO I'M AN OPTION.

TWO. >> WE'VE OFFERED TO HELP THEM IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE WITH MARKETING AND OTHER STUFF. SO I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. YEAH.

>> GREAT REPRESENTATIVE TO. >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU CAN YOU. FLIP FORWARD TO THE THE SUMMARY.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT THE THERE WAS AN THERE'S AN OPTION. THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND WORK PUT INTO THESE AND I APPRECIATE STAFF DOING THAT. DID WE DISCUSS VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT ARE SORT OF IN BETWEEN THESE. BECAUSE I COULD SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN TWO AND ONE IS $30,000 TO TWO. LINES AND $100,000 IN THE OTHER. IS THAT CORRECT? SO I MEAN, IF WE HAD 25 AND 25 AS AN OPTION, ONE THAT IS A REDUCTION OF 30. SO YOU COULD TAKE HISTORY AND CULTURE TO 270 AND STILL MEET ALL THE REST OF THESE THINGS. AND, AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE THINGS THAT COUNCILOR MCGEE BRINGS UP STILL SUBSTANTIALLY FUND THE REQUEST FROM THE OFFICE OF HISTORY AND CULTURE HAVE LESS OF AN IMPACT. SO WHILE I'M I'M OKAY WITH EITHER OF THESE TWO OPTIONS, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND A SORT OF 1.5, WHICH IS WHICH IS TWO, 70, 25 AND 25 INSTEAD OF AND THAT WAY WE ARE ESSENTIALLY DOING ALL THE THINGS. I HOPE

THAT PEOPLE WILL ENTERTAIN THAT NOTION. >> ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE

DISTRICT ONE. >> OPTION TWO. >> ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE?

MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. BEFORE I GIVE MY MY THOUGHTS, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IT DOES TO US TO HAVE THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS BALANCE DOWN TO WHAT WAS IT, 2000 AND THEN HOW FAST DOES THAT ACCRUE BACK UP, OR WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT CREATE BY

HAVING THAT NUMBER SO SMALL? >> NOT IN THE PAST HAD A CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM BUDGETED OUT OF THE FUNDS THEY'VE TYPICALLY ALLOCATED TO EVERY GROUP. AND SINCE WE CHANGED THE PROCESS, THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO HAVE A RESERVE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT IN CASE SOMETHING CAME UP. AND THEN THEY HAD SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE BUDGET TO CREATE A VOTING ITEM AND

GIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. >> SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN THAT LINE ITEM. YES.

OKAY. SO WE WON'T MISS IT IF IF IT'S A LITTLE SMALL THIS FIRST TIME OKAY I'M GOOD WITH OPTION

TWO. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE SEEING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.

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AND THEY THEY WERE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY WHETHER THEY GOT THAT BALL ROLLING, WE'LL SEE HOPEFULLY IF THAT MANIFESTS. BUT THERE'S WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO PULL IN NEW DOLLARS AND MAKE SURE WE ADD TO THE WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEN SHARE ALL THE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING HERE IN DENTON. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK THAT WAY. SURE APPRECIATE IT.

AND SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION. I'M SEEING NO CLOSED ITEMS MAN. HECK YES. SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION AND TIME UNTIL WE RECONVENE AT 630 FOR OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. SO WE'RE ADJOURNED TILLGOOD EVENING AND WELCOME BAK TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]

FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE STAND

WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE. >> PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

>> TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A FEW

[2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]

OKAY. WE CAN SLIDE DOWN THAT WAY. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING

HERE. IF YOU CAN TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING. >> ACTUALLY, I THINK I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO MR. CHUCK ALLEN. I'LL LET HIM DO HIMSELF. I THINK HE'S GOING TO

DO A BETTER JOB AT THIS THAN WHAT I CAN KNOW. >> AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WE'LL

HAVE EVERYONE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. >> REAL FAST. KENNETH HEDGES,

FIRE CHIEF. >> CHUCK ALLEN, THE ASSISTANT STATE FIRE MARSHAL.

>> ERIC, THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL, PPC OVERSIGHT OFFICER. >> BRIAN ALLEY, CAPTAIN,

STATION EIGHT. >> DAVID BECKER, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.

>> JASON OWEN, LIEUTENANT, STATION ONE. >> BRIAN COX, ASSISTANT FIRE

CHIEF. >> CHRISTOPHER WELLS, STATION ONE JARED HIGGINS, DRIVER.

STATION ONE. >> WALKER ARMSTRONG, FIREFIGHTER. STATION ONE.

>> OKAY. YEAH. >> FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, FIRE CHIEF, WATER DEPARTMENT 911 COMMUNICATIONS. AND ALL STAFF THAT TOOK PART IN THIS SURVEY. IT TAKES MANY PEOPLE TO ENSURE THAT THESE SURVEYS ARE SUCCESSFUL. YOUR TEAM WITHIN THE CITY COMPILED DID A DID A PHENOMENAL JOB OF PROVIDING ALL THE INFORMATION, DOCUMENTS AND OTHER INFORMATION NECESSARY TO SEE THE CITY ACHIEVE ITS NEW ISO RATING. CURRENTLY, THERE'S OVER 100 APARTMENTS WITH A CLASS ONE RATING HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND JUST OVER 500 DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE CLASS ONE. A FEW FUN FACTS ABOUT THE THE SURVEY. YOUR LAST SURVEY WAS DONE IN 2017, AND CHIEF PALSGROVE WAS YOUR FIRE CHIEF.

YOUR CITY POPULATION WAS NOTED AT 128,205. YOU HAD 37 ON DUTY PERSONNEL, THREE ENGINES, THREE LADDER COMPANIES WERE RECOGNIZED IN THE SURVEY. YOU SCORED 38.86 POINTS OUT OF 50.

FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE. YOU SCORED 8.99 POINTS OUT OF TEN ON YOUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, AND YOU SCORED 38.91 POINTS OUT OF A TOTAL OF 40 FOR YOUR WATER SUPPLY, WHICH GAVE YOU A TOTAL OF 88.24, WHICH REPRESENTED YOUR CURRENT CLASS TWO RATING. YOUR MOST RECENT SURVEY HERE IN 2025, CHIEF HEDGES, IS YOUR FIRE CHIEF. YOU HAVE A POPULATION OF 164,096. YOU HAVE 55 ON DUTY PERSONNEL. NOW. YOU HAVE NINE FULLY STAFFED ENGINES, TWO

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COMMUNITY BY OBTAINING THAT CLASS ONE PRESENTATION. >> EXCELLENT. THAT'S GREAT.

GIVE HIM A HAND. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

>> AND I HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO CAPTURE THAT AS WELL. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. AND THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THE WORK YOU ALL DO TO TO BRING THIS TO FRUITION. AND THAT GOES EXTENDS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WAIT, SORRY. WAIT A MINUTE, I THIS ONE'S A LITTLE TRICKY. I'D MESS IT UP.

I'D CERTAINLY MESS IT UP. SO HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. OH, THERE'S THE WORDS. SO IT SAYS GREETINGS. WHEREAS ACHIEVING AN ISO CLASS ONE RATING IS A RESULT OF THE DEPARTMENT'S DEDICATION TO MAINTAINING STATE OF THE ART EQUIPMENT EXCELLENCE, EXCELLENT TRAINING STANDARDS AND CONSISTENT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, AS WELL AS EFFECTIVE A COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF DENTON'S. WATER UTILITIES AND DISPATCH SERVICES. AND WHEREAS THIS DISTINGUISHED RATING MAY CONTRIBUTE TO LOWER INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR FOR HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES, ENHANCING ECONOMIC RESILIENCY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS IT UNDERSCORES THE DENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT'S UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING THE LIVES, PROPERTY AND WELL-BEING OF RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND VISITORS OF DENTON AND THE CITY OF DENTON RECOGNIZES THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF THE FIREFIGHTERS, SUPPORT STAFF AND LEADERSHIP OF DENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT. NOW, THEREFORE, I, GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 16TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2025 AS A DAY TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE DENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ACHIEVING AN ISO CLASS ONE RATING. WE EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST GRATITUDE FOR THEIR EXEMPLARY SERVICE AND COMMITMENT IN

KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. HEY, GOOD TO SEE YOU, MAN.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR HOLIDAY. LET HIM GET OUT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. HEY, MAN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. SEE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. CAN I GIVE YOU THESE? THERE'S SOME EXTRA CARDS. YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AND IF YOU ARE HERE WITH GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY YOU CAN COME

ON DOWN. HEY, SEAN. >> HOW ARE YOU, MAN? THANK YOU BROTHER, THANK YOU.

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>> OKAY. AND WHO'S WHO'S GOING TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING?

>> I GOT IT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, SEAN JACOBSEN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ENJOYED MOST IN THE LAST YEAR IS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING TO DO MORE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING. SO FINDING WAYS TO CREATE RESOURCES, OPPORTUNITIES AND TOOLS TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS BUILD COMMUNITY. AND A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN BEHIND THE SCENES SO FAR, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE ONE OF OUR FIRST ACTUAL EVENTS FOR THAT, WHICH IS THAT WE WANT TO CELEBRATE GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT HAS NOT BEEN CELEBRATED HERE IN DENTON. SO THAT'LL BE ON SEPTEMBER 28TH THIS YEAR. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT WOULD BE REALLY FUN IS IF YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, IT HELPS TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED AND WHAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY RESIDENTS TO PICK UP AT CITY PUBLIC BUILDINGS ARE THESE WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR? MAGNETS. SO IF YOU HAVE A DRY ERASE MARKER, IT ALLOWS YOU ON EACH OF THE HOUSES AROUND YOURS TO MARK THE NAME AND PHONE NUMBER OF YOUR NEIGHBOR SO YOU CAN GO OVER GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO MEET THEM. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN CHECK ON AN AMAZON PACKAGE IF IT'S DROPPED OFF, MAYBE CHECK IN ON YOUR PETS. BUT JUST TO START TO GET TO KNOW THOSE FOLKS AROUND YOU. AND I WILL SAY THAT'S NOT JUST FOR OUR HOMEOWNERS. I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT. I'M PLANNING TO GO AND TALK TO MY NEIGHBORS ABOVE AND BESIDE ME. YOU KNOW, JUST THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW PEOPLE A LITTLE BETTER. IN ADDITION, OUR FRIENDS OVER IN MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS WILL HAVE SOME FUN SOCIAL MEDIA ACTIVITIES SO YOU CAN KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT. BUT AGAIN, THAT WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, AND I DO JUST WANT TO ALLOW MY COWORKERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. SHAWN HALEY, ZEGARSKI INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR.

>> JULIE WYATT, PRINCIPAL PLANNER. >> CAMERON ROBERTSON, HISTORIC

PRESERVATION OFFICER. >> ANGIE MENGELE'S, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER.

>> AWESOME. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT, AND THAT IS VALUABLE. I MEAN, JUST A GOOD REMINDER TO GET OUT AND MEET FOLKS. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT, FOR THE EFFORTS. AND IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS GOOD NEIGHBORS PLAY A INVALUABLE ROLE IN FOSTERING A SAFE, WELCOMING AND VIBRANT ENVIRONMENT, OFFERING A HELPING HAND, BUILDING CONNECTIONS, AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE OVERALL WELL-BEING OF OUR CITY. AND WHEREAS, ACTS OF MUTUAL RESPECT AND ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ENHANCE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY BONDS. AND WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 28TH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY BY THIS UNITED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, NOW THEREFORE, I, GERARD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 28TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2025 AS GOOD NEIGHBOR DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO MAKE A SPECIAL EFFORT ON THAT DAY TO GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS AND TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR IS AND IS ALL ABOUT THROUGHOUT, THROUGH ACTS OF

KINDNESS AND HOSPITALITY, IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. >> ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. WELL DONE. >> AND. IF YOU ARE HERE WITH

UNITED WAY, IF YOU CAN COME ON UP, PLEASE. >> HEY, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? GOOD

TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI. HOW ARE YOU? HELLO. >> OKAY.

>> COME ON, JESSE, COME ON. >> ALL RIGHT. WHO'S WHO'S THE SPOKESPERSON? AND. WELL, LET'S LET'S HAVE EVERYONE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, AND THEN WE'LL FIND A SPOKESPERSON.

>> START WITH YOU. >> FRANK DIXON, BOARD MEMBER. >> JODY MCLAREN, COMMITTEE

MEMBER. >> JESSE KENT, COMMITTEE MEMBER. >> CHRISTINE TAYLOR, CITY OF

DENTON COMMITTEE MEMBER. >> ALL RIGHT. >> CAROLINE SIMMONS, LIFETIME

BOARD MEMBER. >> OLIVIA WILLIAMS, CHIEF PROGRAMS OFFICER.

>> MARCY FRITZ, DIRECTOR OF MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS. >> AARON SKINNER, COMMITTEE

CHAIR. >> MEGAN DAVIDSON, CITY OF DENTON COMMITTEE CHAIR OR

CO-CHAIR. EXCUSE ME. >> AND I'M GARY HENDERSON, CEO, UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY.

I'LL BE YOUR SPOKESPERSON, MAYOR, IF THAT'S OKAY. WELL, WE'RE HERE TO REALLY CELEBRATE TWO THINGS. ONE, IT'S UNITED AS A WAY MONTH, AND WE WOULD LOVE A PROCLAMATION IF YOU HAVE ONE HANDY MAYOR, THAT IS AWESOME. BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO KICK OFF THE CITY OF DENTON EMPLOYEE GIVING CAMPAIGN NEXT WEEK. SO WE HAVE COMBINATION OF BOARD MEMBERS, CITY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, UNITED WAY BOARD MEMBERS, LIFETIME MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS. 54,000 DENTON COUNTY RESIDENTS RECEIVED HELP LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF UNITED WAY DONOR SUPPORT, AND OUR NETWORK OF 18 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, 54,000 IS A HUGE NUMBER. BUT

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COUNTY. >> SURE. YES. EXCELLENT. >> SO WHEN YOU SAY EVENTS, WHAT DO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET PLUGGED IN OR DONATE, WHAT EVENTS ARE THEY LOOKING FOR OR

WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? >> WELL, ON THE SQUARE COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF FRIDAYS, MARCY A WEEK FROM FRIDAY, TWO WEEKS FROM FRIDAY. PETERBILT'S ANNUAL TRUCK PARADE, PRIDE, AND ABOUT A MONTH AWAY. IT'S ABOUT A MONTH AWAY, MAYOR. TIME FLIES. YOU KNOW I'M GETTING OLDER.

TIME DOES FLY. PETERBILT WILL BE BACK ON THE SQUARE WITH THEIR PRIDE AND CLASS TRUCK PARADE. PETERBILT IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST DONORS TO THE UNITED WAY CAMPAIGN, BUT THEIR PHILANTHROPY GOES WELL BEYOND THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO PLEASE COME OUT, ENJOY THOSE

TRUCKS ON THE SQUARE AND MAKE A DONATION. >> THERE YOU GO.

>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO THE AFOREMENTIONED PROCLAMATION, A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS.

WHEREAS UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY IMPROVES LIVES BY MOBILIZING COMMUNITIES LIKE DENTON TO ACTION SO ALL CAN THRIVE BY WORKING TOGETHER TO CO-CREATE SOLUTIONS TO PEOPLE'S MOST PRESSING CHALLENGES. AND WHEREAS UNITED IS A WAY CREATES A HEALTHY COMMUNITY WITH STRENGTHENED RESILIENCE, WELLNESS, AND FINANCIAL FINANCIAL SECURITY WHERE EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF AGE, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FLOURISH. WHEREAS UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY LEADS THE EFFORT WITH A NETWORK OF NONPROFIT GOVERNMENTS, BUSINESSES AND DONORS TO RESPOND TO OUR NEIGHBORS IMMEDIATE NEEDS AND SEEK SEEK OUT BETTER SOLUTIONS FOR LARGER, COMMUNITY WIDE ISSUES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2025 AS UNITED IS THE WAY MONTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND WE DECLARE SEPTEMBER 2025 AS UNITED. UNITED IS THE WAY MONTH AND PROUDLY JOINED UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY IN CALLING ON ALL RESIDENTS OF DENTON TO GIVE TO ONE TO IMPACT MANY. AS WE TAKE ACTION TO CREATE A FUTURE WHERE EVERYONE HAS A

CHANCE TO THRIVE, WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. HEY, GREAT TO SEE YOU. YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. HEY, GREAT TO SEE YOU.

[3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]

>> OKAY. IF WE COULD PLAY THE VIDEO AND ADDRESSING COUNCIL, PLEASE.

>> THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT. A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED. IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING. IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS. IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NONSCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. MAKE A STATEMENT OF

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SECRETARY. >> OKAY. FIRST SPEAKER IS TRACY DUCKWORTH. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN,

YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS TRACY DUCKWORTH.

FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS MY 11TH TIME SPEAKING HERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO SPEAK HERE TO GET A CONVERSATION. THAT MEANS SOMETHING FROM ONE OF Y'ALL. 11.

FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHO I AM OR WHAT I DO. I WAS HOMELESS FOR MANY YEARS, DRUG ADDICTED. I GOT HOUSED ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THROUGH GIVING GRACE. I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE. I STARTED GETTING RETALIATED AGAINST BY THE ORGANIZATION. ON AUGUST 6TH. I CAME HERE LAST YEAR AND I SAID.

WE'RE BEING MENTALLY ABUSED. THE HOMELESS ARE BEING MENTALLY ABUSED. NOT PROVIDED WHAT THEY SAY THEY PROVIDE FOR US. THE HOUSING FIRST IS WHAT I SAID. WAS THE HOUSING FIRST MODELS BEING VIOLATED? THE HUD CURRICULUM OF CARE IS BEING VIOLATED. THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT IS BEING VIOLATED. VERY SHORTLY AFTER THAT, THE MOST EXTREME RETALIATION AND MENTAL ABUSE THAT ANYONE COULD SUFFER. AND I'M ALREADY, I ADMIT, TO MY MENTAL ILLNESS, AND IT WAS USED AGAINST ME BY AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP ME BECAUSE I SPOKE THE TRUTH, AND Y'ALL WOULDN'T PROTECT ME AND HELP ME. THERE'S ONE OF YOU.

SINCE I CAN'T DIRECT ANY COMMENTS TOWARD ANY ONE OF YOU, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE THAT HAS A RECORDING THAT'S AN HOUR LONG OF ME BEING RETALIATED AGAINST BECAUSE I STOPPED SHARING RESOURCES WITH GIVING GRACE, AND I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS. I STARTED RUNNING A STREET MINISTRY FROM MY APARTMENT. YOU SHOULD SEE IT NOW. I ALMOST GOT THE PICTURES IN PLACE TO GET TO THE SECRETARY IN TIME TO SHOW EVERYONE. HOWEVER, I WAS UP FOR THE LAST TWO NIGHTS LIKE I USUALLY AM BECAUSE I HAVE PTSD AS WELL AND THIS DOES WONDERS FOR MY ANXIETY COMING HERE REPEATEDLY. IT JUST IT JUST AMPS UP THE RETALIATION. MUCH LIKE WAS SAID IN THE WORK SESSION EARLIER, THAT DISCRIMINATION IS REAL. RETALIATION IS REALLY, REALLY REAL TOO. ONE OF YOU HAS IT ON TAPE. I WAS RETALIATED AGAINST SO HARD BY GIVING GRACE THAT I VOLUNTARILY EXITED A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM. HOW MENTALLY ABUSED WOULD YOU HAVE TO BE TO VOLUNTARILY EXIT INDOOR LIVING AFTER FIGHTING FOR IT AS HARD AS YOU DID TO GET IT? MY PEOPLE ARE DYING LEFT AND RIGHT ON THE STREETS. I HAVE A HOUSE FULL OF SUPPLIES.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. I'VE GOT TENTS, SLEEPING BAGS. I WROTE A WHOLE LIST, BUT MY TIME IS OBVIOUSLY ALMOST OUT. DO YOU THINK THE HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THE STREET CALL ME AND COME TO MY HOUSE TO GET IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE? OR THEY FILL OUT THE LINK FOR GIVING GRACE STREET OUTREACH AND WAIT 5 TO 7 BUSINESS DAYS FOR A RESPONSE. I WAS LITERALLY IN THE MIDDLE. WELL, AT THE END, SORRY, OF HOSTING THE MEMORIAL FOR GARRETT WOLFE, ONE OF THE HOMELESS MEN FOUND DEAD ON THE STREETS HERE WHEN JOHN RUFF WAS MURDERED ON THE SQUARE. AND THEN ABOUT A WEEK AGO, WE LOST ANOTHER ONE. I'M EITHER GRIEF COUNSELING SOMEBODY OR FEAR COUNSELING SOMEBODY BECAUSE THE FEAR TACTICS THAT ARE USED AND Y'ALL DON'T HELP. YOU THINK IT'S FUNNY? IT'S NOT FUNNY.

DON'T. PLEASE DON'T SHAKE YOUR HEAD. NO, BECAUSE YOU DO THINK IT'S FUNNY. THEN HELP US.

BECAUSE WHAT Y'ALL DID, Y'ALL SAY THAT Y'ALL WANT TO MAKE HOMELESSNESS RARE, BRIEF AND NON-RECURRING? Y'ALL JUST MADE IT INSTANT, CONSTANT, AND IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT OF.

THERE'S MY TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THEN NEXT IS MISS BIANCA.

BIANCA. ANTHONY, AM I CLOSE? VIA NCA? ANTHONY. OKAY. THEN. MR. CHRIS. WHAT'S.

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>> I CAN'T GET USED TO THAT, MR. MAYOR. >> COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES, SIR.

CHRIS, WHAT'S HERE IN THE CITY OF DENTON HERE REPRESENTING, SERVED AS THE BOARD CHAIR. AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER MEMBERS FROM OUR ORGANIZATION. WE GOT PAT SMITH, CEO, AND EDDIE RENTZ WHO'S THE BOARD SECRETARY. NOW, WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IS ABOUT AN EVENT WE'VE GOT COMING UP OCTOBER 23RD, AND IT'S EDDIE'S AND CLARISSA KRISEMAN'S SORT OF BRAINCHILD. SO HE WAS GOING TO DO THIS PRESENTATION. BUT MAYOR, BEING CONSISTENT TO THE RULES, I HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE IT. SO HERE WE GO. BUT BASICALLY ON OCTOBER THE 23RD, FROM 6 TO 9:00 IN THE CIVIC CENTER, SERVANT IS GOING TO HAVE A EVENT THAT COINCIDES WITH THE 30 DAYS OF 30 HALLOWEEN DAYS OF DENTON. IT IS CALLED ATOMIC BINGO BASH. NOW WE ALL KNOW WHAT BINGO IS, BUT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE YOUR GRANDPARENTS BINGO BECAUSE NO, IT'S NOT. IT IS NOT NUMBER ONE.

WE'RE GOING TO SERVE COLD BEVERAGES. WE'RE GOING TO SERVE FROSTY MARGARITAS AND COLD BEER.

AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BASICALLY BE IS A COSTUME PARTY. SO WE WANT EVERYBODY WHO COMES TO COME IN COSTUME. I EXPECT TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE UP HERE ON THE DAIS. I EXPECT TO SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY WEARING THE BRITISH JUDICIAL, I BELIEVE, WHITE WIG THAT SO OFTEN ACCOMPANIES THE TV SHOWS, BASICALLY FOR FOR THE TICKET. LET ME PULL THIS UP. SEE, THIS IS ALL ON THE FLY, FOLKS. WHAT YOU GET FOR THE. OH, HERE'S. OH, YEAH. GOOD, GOOD. THERE IT IS.

YES. SO WHAT YOUR TICKET GETS YOU IS FIVE BINGO CARDS. AND WE'LL HAVE PRIZES FOR THAT. IT GETS YOU A BINGO DAUBER. I HAD TO LEARN WHAT THAT WAS. YES. IT'S THE THING. YOU AND YOU CAN KEEP IT. YOU CAN TAKE IT HOME WITH YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU CAN KEEP IT.

>> BUT WAIT. >> THERE'S MORE. GETS YOU AN INFLATABLE THUNDER STICK, WHICH CAN THUNDER. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS, ISN'T IT? THUNDER STICKS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

THAT'S WHERE YOU. BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS YOU CAN THEN BRING THOSE TO COUNCIL. AND WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING ON THAT YOU'RE REALLY NOT AGREEING WITH, YOU CAN BEGIN TO POUND THOSE STICKS TOGETHER. YOU ALSO GET A COUPLE PIECES OF PIZZA AND SOME COKE OR COKE PRODUCT WITH THAT TICKET. AND SO REALLY INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT. THE WEBSITE, I BELIEVE, IS BINGO.

>> BINGO. >> ATOMIC BINGO, BASH. COM AND WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE, GO ON, GET A TICKET, FIND YOUR BEST COSTUME. WE'VE GOT A COSTUME SHOP DOWN ON THE SQUARE.

YES, THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO GO AND GET A COSTUME. SO COME OUT, HAVE A GOOD TIME.

HOPEFULLY WE WON'T RECOGNIZE VERY MANY OF US BECAUSE WE'LL BE IN COSTUME AND IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO SERVE A GREAT ORGANIZATION. SERVE DENTON HAS BEEN IN DENTON FOR 13. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? 13 YEARS. IT'S BASICALLY A NONPROFIT SERVICE CENTER THAT PROVIDES SERVICES AND LOW COST OFFICE RENT TO NONPROFITS SO THAT THEY CAN USE MORE OF THEIR REALLY DWINDLING KIND OF RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND TIME, TO REALLY HELP AS MANY PEOPLE OF THEIR CLIENTS AS THEY CAN. SO IT GOES TO A GOOD CAUSE, AND IT IS GOING TO BE A BLAST. JUST THINK OF SEEING ALL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN A COSTUME. THAT'S THAT. THAT'S WORTH THE TICKET BY ITSELF. AND I THINK WE STILL ALLOW PHONES SO YOU CAN TAKE VIDEOS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PHOTO BOOTH. SO IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT MEMORY AND IT'S GOING TO FIT IN, I THINK REALLY WELL WITH THE THEME OF OCTOBER FOR DENTON HALLOWEEN. SO COME ON OUT. AND I INVITE EVERYBODY HERE AND EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING ATOMIC BINGO BASH COMM.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OH COME ON. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> WE'RE ALL GOOD. >> WE HAVE ONE. >> CAN I, CAN I OH WE DO I

DIDN'T SEE IT. OH. >> WHO IS. >> MAYOR PRO TEM? CAN'T TELL

THERE. >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DRESSED AS?

>> I WILL BE ONE OF THE UNRECOGNIZABLE. I HAVEN'T DECIDED YET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD QUESTION. >> AWESOME. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. NATHAN GOLDSMITH. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR BROUGHT SOME. SEE IF I CAN GET THIS UP

ON THE BOARD HERE. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> I HAVE A POWERPOINT.

>> OKAY, GOOD. >> THANK YOU. NAME? NATHAN GOLDSMITH, RESIDENT HERE OF DENTON. LAST MAY, WE HAD A DISASTER DECLARATION FROM THE THE COUNTY, THE STATE AND

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AGAIN, WE HAVE BLISTERING ON OUR PAINT ON THE LEFT, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE FROM THE THE SIDING ON THE RIGHT THAT IT'S DEFINITELY INADEQUATE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. THEY ALSO DAMAGED SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THESE CONTAINERS OVER HERE, THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY RAN THEM OVER, FAILED TO IDENTIFY THAT WHEN ADDRESSED WITH THE FOREMAN HE SAID, OH YEAH, BOB DID THAT. HE DIDN'T TELL YOU? ASKED BOB ABOUT IT. OH, WELL, MY FOREMAN WAS SUPPOSED TO TELL YOU. SO WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS. ALSO, IF THERE'S EVER A AN APPROACHING THIS INDIVIDUAL. HE HAS A DOG. TRAINED TO DEBONE HUMAN FLESH. SOLID WASTE. SORRY I HAVING TO GO PRETTY QUICK ON THIS. BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU HAS THEM AS A A RATED PLUS.

THEY ARE NOT. THEY DON'T EVEN ABIDE BY THEIR REGULATIONS. HOW DID WE KNOW ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS? IF I COULD HAVE TEN MORE SECONDS. THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN DOING WORK WITH.

>> AND THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND I'M I'M TOLD STAFF'S WORKING WITH YOU ON THOSE OR AT

LEAST COMMUNICATING WITH YOU. YES. >> SLIGHTLY. YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. GOT IT. WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER IS NICK STEVENS. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

>> HI THERE. THE ATOMIC BINGO BASH SOUNDS FUN. MIKE, COME DRESSED AS A POT LEAF FOR THAT ONE. I HAVE ONE OF THOSE COSTUMES FROM A FEW YEARS AGO. SO I'M COMING ON BEHALF OF THE JOHN B DENTON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, JOHN B DENTON NEIGHBORHOOD IS MY FAVORITE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S WHERE I LIVE. IT'S THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN DENTON. IT'S RIGHT OVER THERE.

IT'S WHERE THE BORDERS. HICKORY. CARROLL, PONDER, AND PANHANDLE. AND WE ARE COMPRISED OF ABOUT 350 HOMES. JACOB MOSES IS A HUGE PART OF FOUNDING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND I

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OVER THE PAST YEAR, OUR STREETS HAVE ENDURED BACK TO BACK UTILITY AND ROAD WORK WITH MINIMAL NOTICE, POOR COORDINATION, NO CLEAR END IN SIGHT. ONE RECENT EXAMPLE, ONE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET RECEIVED JUST FIVE DAYS NOTICE FOR SIX MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION.

IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING SIX MONTHS OF ATMOS GAS LINE WORK. THE PROJECT WAS NEVER LISTED IN THE FRIDAY'S CITY'S FRIDAY STAFF REPORT UNTIL IT WAS COMPLAINED ABOUT BY ME ONE BLOCK OVER, RESIDENTS WERE TOLD THAT THEIR PROJECT WAS DELAYED BECAUSE ATMOS HAD NOT YET COMPLETED THE GAS LINE REPLACEMENTS. IN OTHER WORDS, WORK WAS SCHEDULED WITHOUT CONFIRMING OR COORDINATING UTILITY READINESS. THIS ISN'T A ONE OFF. WE ARE SEEING A NEIGHBORHOOD WIDE PATTERN OF LONG TIMELINES, OVERLAPPING PROJECTS, CONFLICTING UPDATES, AND NO SINGLE RELIABLE SOURCE OF TRUTH. IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE, THIS HAS MEANT UNSAFE WALKING ROUTES AND BIKE LANES, CAR WRECKS CAUSED BY SLOPPILY PLACED BARRICADES ON WEST OAK STREET, MISSING SIDEWALKS FOR MONTHS ON END, BLOCKED DRIVEWAYS THAT LEAVE RESIDENTS UNABLE TO ENTER OR EXIT THEIR HOMES WITHOUT HASSLE. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE CITY PROVIDES UPDATES AND SENDS NOTICES, BUT TOO OFTEN THEY'RE INCOMPLETE, LAST MINUTE AND OUT OF SYNC WITH REALITY ON THE GROUND. INFORMATION IS NOT THE SAME AS COMMUNICATION, AND DENTON'S APPROACH IS FAILING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION BY HOLDING A DEDICATED WORK SESSION TO OVERHAUL HOW DENTON MANAGES SEQUENCES AND OVERSEES CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WITH AN ADDITIONAL FOCUS ON PREVENTING CONFLICTS BETWEEN UTILITY AND CITY WORK, ESTABLISHING AND ENFORCING STRONGER CONTRACT AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, WITH CLEAR PENALTIES FOR MISSED DEADLINES AND POOR COMMUNICATION. COMMUNICATING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION.

THE JOHN B DENTON NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN PATIENT, BUT PATIENCE IS WEARING THIN. GOOD GOVERNANCE STARTS WITH DOING THE BASICS WELL, AND THAT MEANS PLANNING PROJECTS PROPERLY, COORDINATING BETWEEN AGENCIES AND KEEPING RESIDENTS FULLY INFORMED. THIS MEANS NOT AT THE LAST MINUTE, BUT FROM START TO FINISH. WE URGE YOU TO TREAT THIS AS AN URGENT PRIORITY AND DELIVER REAL, MEASURABLE CHANGE. SIGNED THE JOHN B DENTON COLLEGE NEIGHBORHOOD. WITH THE LIMITED TIME I HAVE LEFT, I'M GRATEFUL TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR CALLING ON THAT AUDIT TO BE DONE AND THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE, AND THE OWNERSHIP OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR RECOGNIZING, HEY, WE HAVE SCREWED UP A LITTLE BIT AND THERE'S SOME THINGS WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON. THAT'S WHAT GOOD LEADERSHIP ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE, IS ADMITTING FAULT AND DOING BETTER. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THOSE CHANGES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS GRATEFUL. THOSE CHANGES AREN'T GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEMS, THOUGH, THAT WE HAVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE NEED TO DO MORE. THE REASON THAT I SIGNED UP ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO HAVE THIS PUBLICLY POSTED AND PROVIDED THIS LETTER AND SIGNATURES TO ALL OF YOU, WAS TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO RESPOND AND AND COMMIT TO HELPING ASSIST THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WORK SESSION AND AND CHANGES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST SPEAKER.

>> WHAT'S THAT? WHAT? >> OH, I'M SORRY. I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

BEAR WITH ME. I DIDN'T SEE HIM. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. IS THERE IS THERE

SOMEONE ELSE THAT WANTED. >> OH THAT'S OKAY. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD,

>> THOUGH. >> MR. STEVENS. I WILL. ABSOLUTELY. I WAS AT THE

INAUGURAL MEETING THE OTHER DAY. >> THANKS FOR BEING THERE. >> I'M I'M HAPPY TO HELP YOU AND THE OTHER LEADERSHIP TEAM TAKE POINT AND AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET WORKING WITH THE

CITY STAFF AND AND GET GET SOMETHING GOING. >> AWESOME. THANKS.

>> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> AND MY APOLOGIES. I DO NOT HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION AND THAT I DO LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING IN AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT HOW THE AGENCIES ARE INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER. I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE ARE THINGS OUT OF OUR CONTROL AS FAR AS OVERSEAS SHIPMENTS OF MATERIALS AND AND EMERGENCIES. HOWEVER, IT DOES CERTAINLY SOUND LIKE AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THIS WAS UNUSUAL, TO PUT IT AS NICELY AS POSSIBLE. AND SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WAY YOU PRESENTED IT TO US, AND THAT WE

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RECEIVED THIS AND WILL CONTINUE LOOKING INTO IT. THANK YOU. >> AWESOME.

>> THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. >> AND I'M GOING TO ASK THAT FRANK'S OVER THIS AREA. BUT THIS IS SETH GARCIA. IF THEY WOULD THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE ASSOCIATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND LET THEM WALK THROUGH THE THINGS AND THEN LET SETH KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. THIS HAS HAPPENED. SO THERE'S A BETTER GROUND TRUTH AND THEN COME UP WITH A PLAN TO TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. SO IF THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT BEING NOTIFIED EFFECTIVELY WITH OUR OUR PARTNERS WHO ARE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION OR ANOTHER UTILITY THAT'S DOING IT. AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THAT IS HAPPENING, BUT I HAVE THE FULL FAITH AND FRANK AND SETH, THAT THEY'LL SIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND

WORK THIS THROUGH THIS TO GET A GOOD PLAN. >> THANKS.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> ONE MORE. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> GONNA MAKE YOU COME BACK DOWN. I DID WANT TO SAY THANKS TO TO NICK FOR FOR PRESENTING TO US AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS LETTER AND SO CLEARLY COMMUNICATING WHAT THE DESIRES ARE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SETH AND OTHERS REACHING OUT. I TRUST THAT SETH'S GOING TO. HE LEFT.

NO, HE'S UP THERE THAT HE'LL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO IMPROVE, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE ARE AREAS THAT COULD BE IMPROVED, LIKE COMMUNICATION AND BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE GROUND, BUT ALSO WHAT CAN WE GET BETTER. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY BEING PART OF THAT TOO, SO I

CAN FOLLOW ALONG AS WELL. >> YEAH. AND I DID INVITE ALL OF YOU, I MEAN, THIS GENUINELY TO TAKE A WALK WITH ME DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES WHAT WE SEE EVERY DAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, JUST GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO SEE THE GLORY THAT IS THE

JOHN B DENTON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT, OUR FINAL SPEAKER IS RICHARD GLADDEN. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU

HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> THANK YOU. THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, MY NAME IS RICHARD GLADDEN. AND I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, DEALING WITH MORE OR LESS TRANSPARENCY. I'M SURE MOST OF YOU, IF NOT ALL OF YOU, ARE AWARE THAT AT THE END OF LAST MONTH, MANY DENTON RESIDENTS DISCOVERED IN THE DENTON RECORD-CHRONICLE AND FROM NO OTHER SOURCE THAT A SINGLE MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ALONG WITH OTHER CITY STAFF OR OFFICIALS, MET OR WERE ALERTED TO THE FACT THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD SOON BE MEETING WITH A REPRESENTATIVE OF ICE FROM DALLAS. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS, AND THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY CONCERNED THAT THEY WERE FINDING THIS OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IN THE NEWSPAPER, AND EVEN THEN, THEY WERE NOT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS GOING TO ATTEND THIS MEETING REPRESENTING THE CITY. THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE TIME, THE LOCATION OR WHAT THE SUBJECT MATTER WITH WOULD BE. THEN, AS A FOLLOW UP, THE READER OR THE READERS OF THE DENTON RECORD-CHRONICLE IN DENTON LEARNED ONCE AGAIN, NOT FROM ANY CITY SOURCE, BECAUSE WE COULD NOT GET VERY CLEAR OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN VERY VAGUE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY SPOKESPERSON. READERS AFTER THE MEETING LEARNED THAT THERE HAD HAD BEEN A MEETING WITHOUT SAYING WHERE IT WAS. WE DID LEARN THAT THE MAYOR, MAYOR HUDSPETH, THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR CHIEF OF POLICE ATTENDED. BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE COULDN'T FIND OUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.

NOW I KNOW, THE CITY SPOKESPERSON SAID, WELL, IT WAS REALLY NOTHING. NOTHING WAS DISCUSSED. THE CITY REPRESENTATIVES DIDN'T SAY A WORD. MAYBE THAT WAS THE INFERENCE, BUT THAT CAUSED CONCERN NOT JUST FOR ME, BUT I THINK A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS. I DON'T THINK SERIOUSLY OR I HOPE THAT I WOULDN'T BE SUBJECTED TO BEING SWEPT OFF THE STREET BY ICE OR CITY POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN DEPUTIZED AND MADE OR PLACED UNDER THE DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION FROM OUR U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL. I DON'T THINK I'M VERY LIKELY TO BE SWEPT OFF THE STREET AND SENT TO EL SALVADOR OR WHEREVER, BUT I THINK THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH IMAGES ON TV THAT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY HIGH IMPORTANCE AND SENSITIVITY TO ALL OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHETHER THEY'RE DOCUMENTED, UNDOCUMENTED, OF WHATEVER RACE.

AND MY GROUP KNOWING THAT IF ANYBODY'S RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED, EVERYONE'S RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED.

AND I LIVE BY THAT RULE, AND I HOPE MANY AMERICANS DO, I THINK THEY DO. IN CONNECTION WITH THE TRANSPARENCY I PROPOSED. AND I'VE PROVIDED OR DISTRIBUTED A COPY OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE UNDER MY PROPOSED ORDINANCE SEVEN DAYS BEFORE SUCH A MEETING, THE CITY SECRETARY WOULD HAVE TO POST A NOTICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OR THE MANNER IN WHICH MEETINGS ARE POSTED

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IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. >> YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT.

>> TWO. >> MR. GLADDEN, IF YOU WOULD GET THAT, I THINK YOU SAID YOU GOT YOUR YOUR PROPOSAL TO ALL OF US. BUT IF YOU MAKE SURE THAT IT GOT TO US AND CITY STAFF THEN, THEN I'LL REQUEST THAT THAT THEY TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND REPORT BACK.

>> OKAY. I APPRECIATE JUST FOR INFORMATION THE A COPY OF THIS ORDINANCE WAS PLACED IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE. I PROVIDED A COPY OF THIS. IS THERE SOMEONE

ELSE I NEED TO PROVIDE IT TO? >> I THINK. >> IF IT'S IN THE BACKUP

MATERIAL. >> IT'S IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS. THEN STAFF HAVE IT AND THEN WE

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

CAN WE CAN WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE. >> OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME

AND THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER. >> THAT TAKES US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. NOTHING WAS PULLED, SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT

AGENDA. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES 7 TO 0. THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ITEM

[A. Hold a public hearing and receive citizen input on the FY 2025-26 Proposed Budget. TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 This taxpayer impact statement is required by Government Code § 551.043(c) to be posted on the notice of a meeting at which a governmental body will discuss or adopt a budget for the governmental body. This Taxpayer Impact Statement shows the median-value homestead property in the City of Denton, a comparison of the property tax bill in dollars pertaining to the property for the current fiscal year to an estimate of the property tax bill in dollars for the same property for the upcoming fiscal year. Taxpayer Impact Statement FY 2025 FY 2026 FY 2026 Adopted No-New-Revenue Proposed Tax Rate Total tax rate (per $100 of value) $0.585420 $0.554279 $0.595420 Median homestead taxable value $379,836 $386,698 $386,698 Tax on average homestead $2,223.64 $2,143.39 $2,302.48 Difference to Current Year Tax Bill ($80.25) $78.84]

PROPOSED BUDGET TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT. FISCAL YEAR 20 2526. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MATT HAMILTON FINANCE HERE TO PRESENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS THE BUDGET ADOPTION TONIGHT, AS WE LEFT OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM LAST WEEK TO THIS WEEK, THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED FOR THE BUDGET ADOPTION ITEM. AND SO I'LL BE PRESENTING THE BUDGET ADOPTION ITEM, WHICH INCLUDES JUST A COUPLE MORE SLIDES. AND THAT WAY IT'S A ONE COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION FOR YOU. SO AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND THE SUBSEQUENT WORK SESSIONS, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC HEARING LAST WEEK, THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED TAX RATE IS COMPRISED OF TWO COMPONENTS, ONE BEING THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE OF 0.334780 AND THE DEBT SERVICE RATE OF 0.260640 FOR A COMBINED TOTAL TAX PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.595420. THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE, WHICH FUNDS JUST THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE GENERAL FUND, REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT, AND THE DEBT SERVICE INCREASES $0.01 FROM 0.25064 0 TO 0.260640. THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS 0.554279, WHICH IS A CALCULATION THAT THE CITY DOES WITH THE TRUTH AND TAXATION STATUTES. THIS NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS THE RATE AT WHICH WE WOULD COLLECT THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE BASED ON THE SAME PROPERTIES BEING ON THE TAX ROLL LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, THE MAX TAX RATE, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IN AUGUST OF 0.605420, AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OF 0.610157. AS A SUMMARY OF THE ASSESSED VALUES AND TAX RATE HISTORY IN 2026, WE ANTICIPATE 22.7 BILLION IN ASSESSED VALUE. THIS

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THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES. AS WE REVIEWED LAST WEEK AND THROUGH THE WORK SESSIONS. AND IN AUGUST, THE PROPOSED 2026 REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS 218.8 MILLION. AND ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, 218.8 MILLION. FOR A BALANCED BUDGET, THE PRIMARY DRIVERS OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE IN PERSONNEL SERVICES. AS WE WENT THROUGH THE ZERO BASED BUDGETING PROCESS AND IDENTIFIED AREAS SUCH AS CIVIL SERVICE OVERTIME THAT NEEDED TO BE RIGHTSIZED, AS WELL AS INCREASES TO CITY BENEFITS SUCH AS OUR HEALTH CARE EXPENDITURES. YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE FUND BALANCE PERCENT AS A FUND BALANCE AS A PERCENT OF TOTAL EXPENDITURES DOES DROP BELOW THE TARGET OF 20% IN 2026 TO 19.3%, BUT IN FUTURE YEARS DOES RECOVER ABOVE THAT TARGET PERCENTAGE STARTING THE FOLLOWING YEAR. IN 2027, OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS ARE FUNDS THAT PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES TO DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. SOMETHING TO NOTE HERE IS A BUDGET REDUCTION YEAR OVER YEAR OF 2.2 MILLION, FROM 112.6 MILLION TO 110.4 MILLION. AND OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.

YOU CAN SEE HERE SUMMARIZED THE ONLY CHANGE BETWEEN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND THIS PROPOSED BUDGET IS FOR THE LEGENDS MUD FUND, WHICH, AFTER CONVERSATIONS DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE INCREASED TO 204,500. SO A FAIRLY SMALL INCREASE OF ABOUT $56,000.

TAKING A LOOK AT OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, STARTING WITH THE AIRPORT, THE AIRPORT IS PROPOSED. PROPOSED REVENUE IS $2,585,416, WITH AN EQUAL AMOUNT BUDGETED ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, AS I DID LAST WEEK. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR IN MANY YEARS THAT THE AIRPORT HAS A BALANCED BUDGET. THERE IS NO GENERAL FUND TRANSFER OR TRANSFER OR SUBSIDY FOR THE AIRPORT. THEY'RE COMPLETELY SELF-SUFFICIENT. THE ELECTRIC FUND HAS A PROPOSED REVENUE OF $526,631,020, WITH $509,582,231 IN EXPENSE, FOR A NET INCOME OF 17,048,789, THERE'S NO PROPOSED BASE RATE INCREASE FOR ELECTRIC PROPOSED IN 2026. THE SOLID WASTE FUND, 45,353,673. PROPOSED ON THE REVENUE AND EXPENSE SIDE, WITH NO PROPOSED RATE INCREASE FOR SOLID WASTE ON THE WATER SIDE, WE HAVE 59.1 MILLION PROPOSED IN REVENUE AND 62.7 MILLION PROPOSED IN EXPENDITURES, FOR A PLANNED DRAWDOWN OF 3.6 MILLION. WE ARE PROPOSING A 3% INCREASE, AS WELL AS A 297% INCREASE FOR THE WHOLESALE TREATED WATER.

WASTEWATER, 50.4 MILLION IN REVENUE AND 51.3 MILLION IN EXPENDITURE FOR PLANNED DRAWDOWN OF 935,000. THIS IS DUE TO MAKING A DRAINAGE TRANSFER IN ORDER TO MOVE THOSE FUNDS INTO A PROJECT ACCOUNT FOR CHANNEL REHABILITATION. NOW, TAKING A LOOK AT THE SUMMARY OF

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HERE YOU CAN SEE AN OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT FIVE YEAR CIP, WHICH TOTALS THE 127 MILLION, OF WHICH 44.2 MILLION ARE GEO BONDS RELATED TO THE 2023 BOND PROGRAM, 65.5 MILLION ARE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, PARK IMPROVEMENTS, AND TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS. AND 17.2 IS BEING FUNDED FROM CURRENT YEAR REVENUE, IMPACT FEES OR OTHER EXTERNAL FUNDING. TAKING A LOOK AT THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT IS PROPOSING 2.19 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH IS PART OF THE IJA. FUNDING. THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A 10% MATCH, WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN EXISTING FUNDS. THE ELECTRIC FIVE YEAR CIP FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 INCLUDES 63.9 MILLION, OF WHICH 58.4 IS PROPOSED TO BE DEBT FUNDED, 1.4 MILLION REVENUE FUNDED AND 4 MILLION IN COST PARTICIPATION. WATER. WATER IS PROPOSED. FISCAL YEAR 2026 CIP INCLUDES 94.9 MILLION, OF WHICH 55.6 IS DEBT FUNDING, INCLUDING THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. SWIFT

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THE PRESENTATION. >> OKAY. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

FIVE. >> GOT A HEALTH INSURANCE COST. >> QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> OKAY. >> AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN. OH, I DON'T KNOW WHOEVER TAKEN THIS.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE INCREASE. SO ROUND NUMBERS. WE'VE GOT 1800 EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE ON A HIRING FREEZE. YET BY MY MATH, THE COST PER EMPLOYEE HAS GONE UP ABOUT $950.

IS THAT TYPICAL? >> I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS CORRECT. IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP, THE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION SIDE IS GOING UP BY 2.19% OVER LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY PAYS PER EMPLOYEE TOWARDS THAT EMPLOYEE INSURANCE. AND THEN THE EMPLOYEE HAS THEIR OWN CONTRIBUTION DEPENDING ON WHICH PLAN THEY SELECT.

>> I GET THAT, BUT I'M IS THAT NUMBER TYPICAL? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING UP. WHAT ONE.

71. 7 MILLION? >> I CAN LOOK AT THE INCREASE BUT I'M LOOKING AT A PRETTY SMALL INCREASE. AND IT IS BASED ON AS WE ADD EMPLOYEES AS CLAIMS INCREASE, AS HEALTH CARE INCREASES, THAT WE ANTICIPATE THOSE INCREASES IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FUND AND PART OF OUR STRIVING TO BE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE, WE STRIVE TO KEEP THOSE PREMIUMS DOWN ON THE EMPLOYEE

CONTRIBUTION SIDE. >> OKAY, I'M ACCEPTING OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE EXPECTED FOR IT TO BE $1.7 MILLION. GIVEN THAT WE ARE IN A HIRING FREEZE. THAT'S ALL.

>> IT'S BASED ON PRIOR CLAIMS, BUT THAT NUMBER IS NOT ALL BASED ON WHAT THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION SIDE IS GOING ON. THAT FUND HAS REVENUES THAT ARE COMING IN THAT ARE 100% PAID FOR EMPLOYEES. SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT SOLELY BASED ON CLAIMS OR THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION PAYMENT. IT'S WHEN PEOPLE ELECT FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES. WE COLLECT THAT REVENUE AND THEN

100% AS A PASS THROUGH. >> OKAY, THAT THAT MIGHT BE THE DELTA. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU

VERY MUCH, CHRISTINE. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO YOU CAN I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS OF PEOPLE REGISTERED TO SPEAK, BUT YOU CAN COME DOWN AND SPEAK, FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD CARE TO SPEAK AGAIN? IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM I LOOKED, I CHEATED IT. SO THIS WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON. WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE ONE IN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM A NUMBER IF I COULD PLEASE. SO OUR, YOU KNOW, LOST IN ALL THE KIND OF NUMBERS AND DEPARTMENTS AND ALL THAT STUFF IS JUST KIND OF HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING IN 2026? THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW. AND SO I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT THING. I'M LOOKING AT 2.5

BILLION. IS THAT 2.55 AND SOME CHANGE BUT JUST 2.5 TO ROUND. >> YES. SO THAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION INCLUDING ALL OF THE OPERATING AND ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

>> OKAY. LAST YEAR, 2.3 BILLION ISH THIS YEAR 2.5 BILLION. YEAH. GOT IT. AND. JUST TO TO RIP A SCAB OFF. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS. THAT GOES TO DCTA BASED ON THOSE SALES TAX

NUMBERS. BECAUSE THEY GET WHAT IS THAT HALF PERCENT OF. >> THEY THEY DO GET A HALF CENT.

YEAH. YES. AS YEAH. >> NO WORRIES. MAYBE WHEN WE GET IF YOU HAVE AT SOME PLACE IF NOT NO BIG DEAL. I MEAN IT'S GOING TO DRIVE ME CRAZY BUT IT JUST IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT IS A FACTOR. IT'S NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT. BUT IT IS NOTEWORTHY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. SO I'LL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM A TAKES US TO ITEM

[B. Hold a public hearing and consider the adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas approving an Alternative Environmentally Sensitive Area Plan to offset the removal of 0.23 acre of Environmentally Sensitive Areas (ESAs) on approximately 53.89 acres of land located north of Spencer Road and approximately 1,200 feet west of the intersection of Spencer Road and Loop 288 in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official Environmentally Sensitive Areas map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted (5-0) to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Riggs and second by Commissioner McDuff. (AESA25-0001c, Spencer Road Industrial, Jennifer Rovezzi)]

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR HUDSPETH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JENNIFER, AND I WORK FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. I'M HERE TO PRESENT A 25 001C, WHICH IS TO OFFSET IMPACTS FROM THE PROPOSED REMOVAL OF 0.23 ACRES OF ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS FROM SPENCER ROAD INDUSTRIAL. SO THIS SITE TOTALS 53.3 ACRES, WITH A PROPOSED DEVELOPED AREA OF 42.9 ACRES. THE SUBJECT AREA FOR THIS ALT ISA IS AN UNNAMED TRIBUTARY OF PECAN CREEK THAT BISECTS THE PROPERTY NORTH TO SOUTH. SO ISA 25 001 IDENTIFIED A RIPARIAN AREA AND AN ADJACENT FLOODPLAIN. IT ALSO IDENTIFIED 3.9 ACRES OF CROSS TIMBERS. UPLAND HABITAT. THE STAND IS PART OF A LARGER CONTINUATION, THAT OF TREE THAT GOES ONTO THE EASTERN ADJACENT PARCEL. IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS ALL ISA, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE RETAINING EXCEEDS CITY REQUIREMENTS. SO ALL THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS IS THE RIPARIAN AND FLOODPLAIN PIECES.

SO THIS REQUEST IS FOR IMPACTS TO THE RIPARIAN ISA AND UNDEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN AT THE NORTHERN REACH OF THE STREAM TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FIRE LANE, AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY'S FIRE CODE. ALL REQUIRED, ALL REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICES WERE MADE, BUT WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES, SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS CANCELED. AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES STAFF RECOMMENDS A ISA 25 001 BASED ON CONDITIONS AND EXHIBITS PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THEIR HIGHLIGHTS HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

TWO? >> THANK YOU FOR THE THE THE RIPARIAN AREA OR THE UPLAND HABITAT. THAT WAS 3.19 ACRES. THAT IS THAT'S BEING TREATED AS, AS AS ISA. ARE WE SEPARATELY TREATING THE THE THE RIPARIAN BUFFER AS A SEPARATE ISA. AND WE'RE SEPARATELY TREATING THE REMAINDER OF THE CANOPY AS, AS CANOPY ON THE PARCEL. IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE TREATING THEM AS

THREE DIFFERENT SETS OF REGULATIONS. >> YES. THERE ARE THREE ISA'S, THE UNDEVELOPED FLOODPLAIN, THE RIPARIAN AREA AND THE CROSS TIMBERS HABITAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND AND THEN. FOR THE THE UPLAND HABITAT AREA, THE. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A SORT OF TEN ACRE POLICY, BUT THAT THAT DOESN'T REALLY GET INTO THE FRAGMENTATION TO THE PROPERTY, THE EAST. HOW MUCH HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST WAS THERE? AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT GERMANE TO THE PARCEL UNDER CONSIDERATION, BUT IT IS A CONTIGUOUS SET OF CANOPY. SO HOW MUCH WAS THE UPLAND HABITAT TO THE ON THE EASTERN PARCEL.

>> SO WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED ON OUR MAP IS ON THAT TRACT, WE WERE GOING ON THESE AERIAL

IMAGES. SO IT IS CURRENTLY UNASSESSED UNASSESSED. >> ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. WELL I LOOKED I LOOKED UP THAT ACREAGE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT THAT. ANYWAY I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

SOFTWARE GIVING US A BETTER ASSESSMENT OF OF WHAT THOSE ARE. LAST LAST QUESTION. IT'S MY

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REGION. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THERE IS GOING TO BE A FIRE LANE INSTALLED THERE. THERE IS ALREADY AT WORK DONE THERE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE UTILIZING EXISTING WORK THAT HAS BEEN

DONE. >> OKAY I APPRECIATE THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE A CARD FROM THE APPLICANT. SO AMY IF YOU CAN COME UP AND. YOU'LL

HAVE TEN MINUTES. >> I'LL TAKE TEN MINUTES OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JENNIFER I HAVE JUST THREE SLIDES AND I AMY BASSETT, 109 NORTH ELM. I DO HAVE WITH ME HERE. HE'S THE ONE THAT PREPARED THIS ALTERNATIVE ESA PLAN. SO IF WE NEED TO GET INTO SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, WE CERTAINLY CAN. AND THEN I ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EDI LOGISTICS HERE AT THE DEVELOPER. SO JUST TO COVER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ESA ON THE SITE. THE UPLAND HABITAT. ESA IS NOT A PART OF THIS PLAN BECAUSE WE ARE ABIDING BY THE CITY REGULATIONS. AS FAR AS THAT PLAN GOES. I THINK TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER BECK, WE ARE COMPLYING WITH TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS ABOVE AND BEYOND OR OUTSIDE OF THE PRESERVATION OF THE UPLAND HABITAT. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE REQUIREMENTS THAT MUST BE MET. THE ENCROACHMENT IS REALLY ACROSS THE THE NORTHERN END OF THE SITE, AND IT'S TO CONSTRUCT A DRIVE AISLE OR A FIRE LANE.

IF YOU SEE HERE IN THE PINK HATCHING AT THE TOP OF THE SITE TO TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE FIRE ACCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I THINK THAT IDI LOGISTICS WOULD WOULD LOVE TO NOT HAVE TO BUILD THAT. IT'S A YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT AN EASY OR INEXPENSIVE BRIDGE TO CONSTRUCT IN ORDER TO AVOID THE ESA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT IT IS IT IS FIRE CODE REQUIREMENT THAT WE CANNOT GET AROUND. SO THE ENCROACHMENT IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE RIPARIAN BUFFER. IT'S .0.23 ACRES. AND WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN IS 0.16 ACRES. WE'VE MINIMIZED THE ENCROACHMENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND THE MITIGATION THAT'S PROPOSED IS TO REMOVE PRIVET THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ESA AREA TO INCREASE THE THE QUALITY OF THE EXISTING ASSAYS AND TO INTRODUCE MORE DIVERSITY OF SPECIES, TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF THE EXISTING ESAS AS WELL, SPECIFICALLY, THE MITIGATION PLAN WILL REMOVE INVASIVE PRIVET ON ALMOST THREE ACRES, INTRODUCE A NATIVE SEED MIXTURE TO AID IN REBUILDING THE STREAM BANK BUFFER AS WELL. AND THAT'S

ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I WILL JUST BE I'LL GET OUT IN FRONT AND SAY. AS WE SIT, I NEED TO I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

I AM CONCERNED AND FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M A HARD NO RIGHT NOW. I'M CERTAIN I'LL HEAR SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT, TO SWITCH THAT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THOSE THINGS DON'T MATTER, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I THINK PNC DID EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE ALT ESA AND LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. BUT IF I COULD GET STAFF UP HERE TO BRING BRING UP GOOGLE MAPS FOR ME, PLEASE. SO YOU CAN PLUG IN, I CAN GIVE YOU AN ADDRESS OR YOU CAN JUST GO TO THAT IF YOU KNOW THAT AREA, BUT I CAN I CAN GET

YOU SOMETHING CLOSE. >> LET'S SEE. MORSE. SPENCER. LET'S SEE.

>> GIVE ME AN ADDRESS. >> SO, YEAH. 2204 SPENCER ROAD. TRY THAT. PERFECT. AND AND WE CAN ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT. NOT NOT SUPER CLOSE, BUT. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S GOOD. SO

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ASSUMING YOU COULD MITIGATE THAT, I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE SAFETY IN THAT AREA. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN. BUT I'M I'M NOT I'M NOT IN SUPPORT.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS ON THE ON THE LARGER PROJECT. I WILL MAKE MY COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY ON THE ALT ISA AND AND I'M TELLING YOU NOW, I'M SUPPORTING YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. IT REALLY DOES. I PUT THIS INTO QUESTIONS TO STAFF, AND I APPRECIATE STAFF RESPONDING VERY PROFESSIONALLY TO WHAT VERGED ON FAIRLY ROBUST, ALMOST SPICY COMMENTS THAT IT REALLY DOES SEEM LIKE FOR THE ALT ISA THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON FRAGMENTING UP THE DIFFERENT REGIONS, THE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE RATHER THAN ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE OVERALL ON THE PARCEL BY BREAKING IT UP INTO THREE PIECES LIKE THAT. AND THEN DISCOUNTING THE CANOPY. OVERALL, WE REALLY ARE FOOTPRINT MAXIMIZING AND COMPLIANCE MINIMIZING THIS, THIS ENTIRE CORRIDOR, THAT'S THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ITSELF. ON TOP OF THE TRAFFIC WOES THAT THE THAT THE MAYOR BRINGS UP. YOU KNOW, IT IT IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPROVE NON IMPACTED AREAS MAYBE A LITTLE. IT DOESN'T REALLY DO OVERSTORY COMPENSATION. IT BISECTS AND FRAGMENTS REGIONS THAT ARE IN OUR IN OUR COMP PLAN IN OUR CONNECTIVITY PLAN ARE ARE FOR YOU KNOW OUR OUR CRITICAL ALONG THESE RIPARIAN VERGES FOR HABITAT FOR MOVEMENT OF ANIMALS AND PLANT LIFE. IT DOESN'T REALLY ACHIEVE OUR ECOLOGICAL GOALS. AND AND YOU KNOW, IT REALLY MAXIMIZES CANOPY LOSS IN THIS REGION. SO I WHILE I CONCUR THAT PLANNING AND ZONING DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE FORCED TO TO OPERATE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES THAT THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN. IT TIES THEIR HANDS. THE MAYOR ALLUDED TO THIS. I DON'T BLAME PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT THE MAYOR IS ALLUDING TO TRAFFIC ISSUES. I'M ALLUDING TO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. I CAN'T I STRONGLY CAN'T SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT. WITH THIS PLAN. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN A PLAN THAT THAT DIDN'T MASSIVELY INCREASE FRAGMENTATION IN THIS REGION ALONG A REALLY IMPORTANT RIPARIAN AND ECOLOGICAL CORRIDOR FOR THE CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S TWO VERY DISPARATE STRIKES AGAINST THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE REST OF PEOPLE'S DECISIONS PROCESS. BUT BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS.

>> REPRESENTING FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> COUNCILPERSON JESTER, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS THIS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR? SO I KNOW IN THE PACKET IT SAYS THE INTENT IS TO USE THIS FOR INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING. BUT I MEAN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND,

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>> SO THIS CORRIDOR IS CURRENTLY ZONED GENERAL OFFICE, WHICH HAS ALMOST THE EXACT SAME LAND ALLOWABLE LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, INCLUDING WAREHOUSING AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THE GENERAL OFFICE ZONING CATEGORY AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING CATEGORY IS. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. THEY WANT IT TO LOOK NICER, IN OTHER WORDS, BECAUSE IT'S ALONG A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SO ALL OF THE SAME INDUSTRIAL USES ESSENTIALLY ARE ALLOWED IN BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS. IT'S JUST HOW COMMERCIAL DOES IT HAVE TO LOOK? AND IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT'S ACROSS FROM COMMERCIAL, IT'S IN THE GENERAL OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT. BUT IT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT THERE.

>> OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> I DO HAVE SOME TRIP

GENERATION NUMBERS IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM. >> WELL TRULY IS IT IS IT IS IT

BOX TRUCKS OR 18 WHEELERS? >> I'M ASSUMING IT'S 18 WHEELERS. CORRECT. IT IS. IT'S A IT'S A SMALL NUMBER OF 18 WHEELERS. SO I MEAN I CAN SHOW YOU I CAN DISPLAY THE TRIP GENERATION NUMBERS. IT DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY. THEY WERE LOW

ENOUGH THAT WE WERE NOT ASKED TO DO A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY. >> YEAH. NO, I MEAN, I TRUST THE NUMBERS AGAIN, IF YOU IF YOU FIND A WAY TO, TO DO THE PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO US, THAT'S GREAT. BUT I CAN'T IN GOOD. THE EMAILS YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC GENERATION, I'M TALKING ABOUT EMAIL GENERATION AND JUST AND JUST THE SAFETY THEREOF. RIGHT. WE LOOK AT WE LOOK AT TEASLEY LANE, PEOPLE TRYING TO CUT ACROSS. AND IT IS IT IS DIFFICULT TO TURN LEFT OUT OF THERE, AS IS FROM THOSE SHOPPING CENTERS. AND IT'S TWO LANES EACH WAY AND YOU ADD TRUCK TRAFFIC THERE. I JUST I JUST CANNOT AND I'M JUST TRULY CONCERNED. SO I TAKE YOUR POINT, BUT TO HAVE A CLEAR RECORD FOR THOSE THAT I DON'T WANT TO POISON THE POOL. SO IF

YOU COULD SHARE THE NUMBERS, THAT'D BE GOOD. >> I CAN.

>> CAN WE HAVE THE DOCUMENT CAMERA, PLEASE? >> JUST DISAPPEARED ON ME.

>> NO WORRIES. TAKE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

>> THERE WE GO. >> SO THIS IS TRAFFIC, HOURLY TRIPS AND DAILY TRIPS BY BUILDING. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HOURLY TRIPS ARE 25 TO 35 PER BUILDING. AND THAT'S A MAXIMUM

THAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THERE IN A PEAK HOUR. >> AND SO YOU'RE DIRECTING ME TO LOOK AT THAT HOURLY TRIPS COLUMN THERE. SO IS THAT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. THE LAST ONE ON

THE RIGHT. PERFECT OKAY. >> THERE'S WEEKDAY, THERE'S AM PEAK HOUR AND PM PEAK HOUR. SO

AND THEN THERE'S DAILY AVERAGES. >> I SEE. >> THANK YOU. ONE MORE. LET ME

SEE. >> AND I APOLOGIZE. >> WE WOULD HAVE HAD OUR ENGINEER HERE WITH US IF WE HAD ANTICIPATED THESE QUESTIONS. SO MY APOLOGIES SIR.

>> NO, NO I JUST DID NOT I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO. THERE'S THE CITY MANAGER GOT AN EMAIL FROM ME SUPER LATE ABOUT SOME OTHER STUFF. SO I WAS JUST IT WAS A BUSY WEEKEND AND AND DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO SUBMIT THE QUESTIONS IN TIME. SO DID THE BEST I COULD.

>> TONY, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE OR. SURE. I MEAN, IF

Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT SINCE I DIDN'T. >> YEAH, NO, 100%.

>> YEAH, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE INFORMATION. >> YEAH.

>> IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME PLEASE. >> YES. TONY MACLIN WITH IDI LOGISTICS THE DEVELOPER HERE. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR FOR CONSIDERING US IN THE FIRST PLACE AND LETTING US COME FORWARD AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU IN TERMS OF OF WHAT WE DO. YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER. WE DEVELOP NATIONALLY. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR A LITTLE OVER 36 YEARS NOW, AND WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD REPUTATION OF BUILDING A CLASS, A BEST IN CLASS LOGISTICS SPACE ACROSS THE US, SPECIFICALLY IN TEXAS. WE'VE DEVELOPED MAN ACROSS. I'LL BRING IT DOWN TO DALLAS.

ACTUALLY, WE'VE DEVELOPED UPWARDS OF 20,000,000FT■!S OR N, THAT'S THE TEXAS NUMBER HERE IN

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SO, I MEAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO TO MAYBE LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE IF MAYBE THAT'S A PATH THAT THAT MIGHT GET YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT HERE. BUT AS IT STANDS NOW, PER, PER THE THE CODE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.

>> SURE. NO. IT MAKES SENSE. SO YEAH. IF THE IF THE PLEASE COME UP AND SPEAK. WHY ARE YOU COMING UP. WE HAVE A QUESTION. SO WE'LL TAKE WE'LL TAKE THE QUESTIONS SO THAT YOU CAN SPEAK

TO ALL THOSE THINGS. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. >> THIS PARTICULAR AREA REPRESENTS THE DISTRICT THAT I AM REPRESENTING. SO I HAVE A HIGH INTEREST IN THIS AREA. ONE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING 18 WHEELERS, I'M HEARING INDUSTRIAL AREAS, AND I AM THINKING ABOUT ALL OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE ALONG THAT PATH LIKE THE MAYOR IS, IS, IS NOTING. BUT IF AN 18 WHEELER IS COMING INTO THAT AREA OVER ON SPENCER ROAD, YOU KNOW, WHICH DIRECTION WOULD THEY BE COMING FROM? WOULD THAT BE THAT LOOP? 288 ARE THEY COMING OFF OF MAYHILL ROAD GOING DOWN? SPENCER, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? ARE THEY GOING TO BE NEAR THE MALL? WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR US?

>> YES. SO THE, THE THE TRAFFIC IS PREDOMINANTLY, PREDOMINANTLY GOING TO COME FROM 35 NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE POINTS OF COURSE, THAT YOU CAN EXIT OFF OF 35 TO GET TO THAT LOCATION, WHETHER THAT BE ON 288, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH ON

LILLIAN PARKWAY OR A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH ON ON MAYHILL. >> HAVE DOES THIS PROJECT EXTEND OVER TO THE NEXT MAJOR ROADWAY, WHICH IS SHADY SHADY OAKS?

>> IT DOES NOT THAT THE AREA TO THE NORTH OF THIS, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF I BELIEVE IS ALREADY IS ALREADY OWNED AND ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY. I BELIEVE WITH PLANNED MULTI

MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THERE. >> RIGHT NOW I'M JUST NOT. I'M NOT REALLY CONNECTED WITH THIS.

I AM JUST CONCERNED ABOUT INDUSTRIALIZATION WITHIN THE LOOP. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE GENERALLY HAVE IS ON THE OUTSIDE OF OUR LOOP LOCATED IN OTHER AREAS. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD COME UP NEAR OUR NEIGHBORS. WE HAVE APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS AREA AND HAVE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN THERE. I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE AT THIS TIME. MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE COULD BE SAID THAT CAN CONVINCE ME. SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS FROM THERE. THANK YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM. AND I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION THAT WE TOOK WHEN IDENTIFYING THIS PROPERTY IS IS WE NOTED THAT IT WAS ADJACENT TO THE DENTON MUNICIPAL ELECTRIC GENERATION PLANT. AND THEN TO THE NORTH, THERE'S THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL POWER INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. AND THEN IT SITS JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST OF AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL POCKET THAT CURRENTLY HAS A BUNCH OF EXISTING PRODUCT THERE AS WELL. SO WE KIND OF VIEWED IT AS AN EXTENSION OF THAT. BUT WE DID RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS IN THE GENERAL OFFICE ZONING CATEGORY.

AND AS SUCH, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUDGETED AND INCLUDED IN OUR NUMBERS ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO ENSURE THAT THESE BUILDINGS MEET THOSE CODES AND ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL DILAPIDATED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES THAT YOU MIGHT SEE, BUT INSTEAD ARE BRAND NEW, COLORFUL, YOU KNOW, WELL-DESIGNED BUILDINGS THAT LOOK GOOD, THAT THAT'S PART OF THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR ETHOS THAT THAT MAKES US WITH SUCH

CREDIBLE DEVELOPERS. YES, MA'AM. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. >> I THANK MY COLLEAGUE, MISS

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HOW AM I GOING TO GET THERE? >> YOU'RE COMING SOUTH ON 35. YOU WILL EXIT AT 288 TO COME NORTH, AND THEN YOU WOULD HIT BRINKER ROAD, AND THEN YOU COULD TURN LEFT THERE TO GET TO SPENCER ROAD. OR YOU COULD CONTINUE ON AND YOU COULD GO TO MAY HILL AND TAKE MAY HILL UP TO SPENCER ROAD AND CUT ACROSS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ONE ROAD IN BETWEEN WHERE THE BUCKY'S, THE BUCKY'S IS. YOU COULD TURN LEFT THERE AS WELL. IT'S BRINKER ROAD AND BRING THAT UP

INTO INTO THE PROJECT. >> AND IF I'M COMING SOUTH, IF I'M IF I'M COMING NORTHBOUND,

WHERE AM I GETTING OFF? >> SAME SAME WAY. >> OKAY. I APPRECIATE DOCTOR BECK'S REASON. I DO THINK IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD, AMY, TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ESAS. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO GET ME TO A NO, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALONG. SPENCER, AS THE MAYOR STATED, WHAT IS ENOUGH TO GET ME TO KNOW IS THE TRAFFIC. HELP

ME UNDERSTAND THIS. >> YES, SIR. >> I DRIVE A TRUCK FOR A LIVING.

I'M COMING SOUTH ON 35. I'M NOT GOING DOWN TO THE LOOP. I'M GETTING OFF ON TEASLEY AND I'M CUTTING THROUGH. AND WHEN I GET TO WOODROW, I'M GONNA HANG A RIGHT AND THEN HANG A LEFT ON

SPENCER. THAT'S TIGHT FOR US. >> THAT'S TIGHT. >> THAT'S REAL TIGHT FOR US.

>> WHICH IS WHY. >> I THINK I'M A TRUCK DRIVER. I GO THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY BECAUSE I'M GETTING PAID BY THE MILE. OKAY? IF I'M COMING NORTH, I'M NOT GOING TO THE LOOP. I'M GETTING OFF ON MAYHILL, AND I'M CUTTING THROUGH SPENCER. AND IT'S GOING TO BE TWO. IT'S TWO LANE RIGHT THERE COMING UP BY THAT LOWE'S. THAT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT. 24 HOURS I ASSUME 24

HOUR OPERATION? >> YES, SIR. >> WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET MOST OF YOUR PICKUPS AND DELIVERIES? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING

GOING IN HERE, BUT. >> YEAH, I WOULD SAY IT'S IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO TELL AT

THIS TIME. IT'S SPECULATIVE DEVELOPMENT. >> WHAT'S WHAT'S DIFFERENT FOR ME ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SPENCER, BETWEEN SPENCER AND THE LOOP, IS A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS GET THEIR SWAPS AT NIGHT. KROGER IS GETTING THEIR SWAPS AT NIGHT. MOST FUEL HAULERS ARE RUNNING AT NIGHT. FOOD DELIVERIES ARE RUNNING AT NIGHT. I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S OKAY AT NIGHT. DURING THE DAY, IT'S TIGHT. I DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

>> YEP. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE TOUGH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM AS TRUCK DRIVERS? INSTINCTUALLY, EITHER ONE. SURE.

AS TRUCK DRIVERS. INSTINCTUALLY WE GO THE CLOSEST, YOU KNOW, THE STRAIGHTEST LINE BETWEEN TWO POINTS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT OF OUR WAY NECESSARILY BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR US AT

NIGHT. IT'S NOT A CONCERN. >> I UNDERSTAND, I THINK AFTER CONFERRING WITH MY CLIENT, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE POSSIBILITY OF A POSTPONEMENT SO THAT WE CAN DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND COME BACK WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY, IF THAT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT WITH YOU ALL. WE CAN POSTPONE INDEFINITELY BECAUSE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

>> AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I WOULD GET EVEN MORE CALLS FOR PAUSE, DEPENDING ON I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING DAY CABS AND 50 THREES, THAT'S ONE THING. IF WE'RE TALKING SLEEPERS AND 50 THREES. ABSOLUTELY NOT. BECAUSE THEN FOLKS DON'T DRIVE AS WELL AS WE DO, AND WE DON'T WANT THEM IN OUR TIGHT IN OUR, YOU KNOW, IN THE CORE OF OUR CITY IN TIGHT ROADS. THEY JUST DON'T THEY DON'T DO WHAT WE DO AS AS PICKUP AND DELIVERY DRIVERS IN

THE CITY. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN? >> YES, SIR.

>> APPRECIATE YOU COMING. THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

>> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> I WOULD LIKE TO THEN, IF NECESSARY, MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AT THIS TIME. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT'S NECESSARY? DO WE NEED THAT? SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OR. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEN I'LL MAKE

THAT MOTION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THE. >> YES, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER TO POSTPONE. AND THEN THE SECOND WILL COME FROM COUNCIL MEMBER

MCGEE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> WHATEVER THAT SAID.

>> WE'LL DO. >> WE'LL GO COMMENTS BRIEFLY, AND IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO ANYONE THAT CARES TO SPEAK CAN SPEAK ON IT. MAKE SURE WE. AND I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT OPEN.

RIGHT. NO. >> CLOSE IT. >> OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. GOT IT.

SO IF ANYONE CAN SPEAK. BUT HERE'S I WOULD LIKE IF YOU IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS IF WE COULD HEAR AND THIS YOU KNOW AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION EARLY. IF WE COULD HEAR FROM YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL PERSON ON THAT ON ON COUNCIL MEMBER BECK'S DISCUSSION ON OR THOUGHTS AROUND IT BEING BIFURCATED OR NOT, I MEAN, I'M NOT TAKING A POSITION THERE. I

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THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION ON ON THE ROUTES. THAT'S HELPFUL. BUT IF COMING NORTH, YOU HAVE TO EXIT BUCKY'S AND BUCKY'S STACKS UP PRETTY GOOD. AND SO I JUST WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THOSE THINGS. AND SO NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO STUDY ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT I, I JUST HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER TO THOSE THINGS. AND SO THE MORE KIND OF YOU CAN GIVE US AROUND A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A DENT NIGHT, UNDERSTANDING YOUR PROJECT THAT DOESN'T ISN'T GENERATING ALL THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. I GET THAT NOT PUTTING THAT ON YOU, BUT WE HAVE TO BE SPEAK TO THE ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE AND HOW WE NAVIGATE THAT. AND SO THOSE THINGS WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME. AND IT COULD BE DIFFERENT. IT COULD BE, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT EXIT BECAUSE THAT ONE YOU GOT TO EXIT TWICE EARLY AND MAYBE IT'S ONE AFTERWARDS.

WE LOOP AROUND. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I'M JUST ASKING FOR A APPROACH THAT ALLOWS ME TO SAY WE'RE MINIMIZING IMPACT BEST WE CAN AND ALLOWING A BUSINESS TO DO GO, GO, DO GREAT WORK. AND UNDENIABLY, YOU DO GREAT WORK. I'M NOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. AND AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND WILLINGNESS TO TO ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH LITTLE TO NO NOTICE, BUT BUT TO SHARE INFORMATION. I'M TRULY GRATEFUL.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU SPEAK?

>> WOULD YOU STATE THE MOTION AGAIN JUST FOR CLARITY? >> CERTAINLY. SO THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY AND THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO DO COME BACK WITH TRAFFIC DATA.

>> THANK YOU. >> GREAT. THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. OH YEAH. AND BEFORE I HIT THE BUTTON,

JENNIFER, IF YOU CAN COME BACK UP TO THE TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE. >> SORRY. YOU HAVE TO JUMP IN

FROM THE HIGH DIVE, BUT. >> BUT WE WE SURE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. AND SO JUST IN A TOKEN TO TO REMEMBER YOUR FIRST TIME PRESENTING TO US AND AGAIN WHAT A DOOZY. BUT YOU DID

YOU DID OUTSTANDING WORK. >> I YOU. >> DID GREAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HERE WE GO. WE'VE GOT A PICTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT.

YES. >> JUST AS A POINT OF PROCEDURE. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL COUNCILOR HOLLAND VOTED, BUT HE'S NOT IN THE ROOM. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. OKAY.

NEVER MIND. I APOLOGIZE, MR. MAYOR. >> I DID NOT TOUCH YOU.

>> I VOTED. >> AND THERE WE GO. SEVEN ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM C, WHICH

[C. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a City-initiated Comprehensive Plan Amendment to modify the Thoroughfare Map of the 2022 Mobility Plan, including but not limited to modifications to the functional classification of Eagle Drive between North Texas Blvd to South Carroll Blvd, Welch Street between Eagle Drive to West Oak Street, and Avenue A between Highway I-35E and Eagle Drive from Secondary Arterial to Collector. The general area of change is located south and east of the University of North Texas in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official mobility plan; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Riggs and seconded by Commissioner Dyer. (MPA24-0003, Eagle Drive, Avenue A, & Welch, Sahar Esfandyari).]

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SAHAR ESFANDIARI, SENIOR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS A MOBILITY PLAN AMENDMENT ON EAGLE DRIVE, AVENUE A AND WILSHIRE STREET. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP, THE TARGET ROWS ARE LOCATED INSIDE THE PINK LOOPS. THE TARGET PORTION OF EAGLE DRIVE IS BETWEEN NORTH TEXAS BOULEVARD TO THE WEST, TO THE SOUTH BOULEVARD TO THE EAST, THE WILSHIRE STREET BETWEEN OAK STREET TO THE NORTH AND EAGLE DRIVE TO THE SOUTH, AND AVENUE A BETWEEN I-35 EAST AND EAGLE DRIVE. ALL THESE ROWS ARE LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF UNT CAMPUS. ACCORDING TO THE MOBILITY PLAN 2022, ALL THESE ROWS ARE IDENTIFIED AS SECONDARY ARTERIAL. THE REQUEST IS TO MODIFY THE FUNCTIONAL ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION OF THESE ROADS FROM SECONDARY ARTERIAL TO COLLECTORS. THE REASONS BEHIND THIS REQUEST ARE. FIRST,

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PLAN AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM

DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. SO IT'S DOCTOR ESFANDIARI RIGHT. ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST WANT TO GET THOSE TITLES RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSES TO AND CLARITY THAT Y'ALL PROVIDED IN THE THE THE THE COMMENTS. BACK TO TO COUNCIL. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOSING ANY SAFETY ISSUES. SO I APPRECIATE THE

RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU CAN SPEAK IF YOU AND FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT IF YOU DESIRE TO DO THAT. BUT IT IS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. YEAH. COME ON DOWN. GIVE YOUR

NAME AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS LAURA COTE.

I'VE BEEN IN DENTON FOR SIX YEARS NOW. I LIVE AT 915 SOUTH WELCH STREET. I ACTUALLY RECEIVED ONE OF THESE CARDS. I DIDN'T FILL IT OUT. MY BAD. BUT I WANTED TO SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF

THE TRANSITION AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. AND AGAIN, IT'S PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE CAN SPEAK IF YOU CAN. COME DOWN, SPEAK, FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. >> THANKS TO STAFF FOR FOR DOING THIS WORK AND BRINGING THIS BACK TO US. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SLOW DOWN THE PACE OF TRAFFIC AND MAKE DENTON ROADS AS SAFE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO WITH THAT, I

HAPPILY MOVE APPROVAL. THANK YOU ALL. >> MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU. TAKES US TO OUR LAST

[D. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification Planned Development 142, Hillcrest Center, to Planned Development – General Office (PD-GO) District including but not limited to establishing uses and standards on approximately 68 acres of land generally located east of North Interstate 35, north of Loop 288, and southwest of Highway 77 (North Elm Street) in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted 4-0 to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Dyer and second by Commissioner Garland. (Z25-0008a, CAT 35, Julie Wyatt)]

SOUTHWEST OF HIGHWAY 77. AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M JULIE WYATT, AND I'M PRESENTING THE 20 58A CAT 35. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 68 ACRES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, IN THAT TRIANGLE THAT'S CREATED BY I-35, HIGHWAY 77 AND LOOP 288 AS SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN. THE REZONING IS FROM PD 142 TO PD. PD 142 IS ONE OF OUR OLDER PD'S.

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PRESENTATION AS WELL. >> OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> THANK YOU. JULIE. AT ONE TIME WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT SMALL AREA PLANS, WE CONSIDERED THIS REGION BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF OUR GATEWAY REGIONS. IN FACT, ALL OUR VARIOUS GATEWAY REGIONS WERE THE IMPETUS FOR SOME OF THE MORE RECENT SMALL AREA PLANS. OR I GUESS WE'RE CALLING THEM AREA PLANS. NOW. DOES THE THE OVER THE NEW CHANGES TO THE PROPOSAL? I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE CONCEPT PLANS. WE'RE JUST TALKING ZONING. DO DO ARE THEY IN THE DIRECTION OF SOME OF THE PRIOR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE GATEWAY AREAS, SOME OF THE CLEANUP THAT WE'VE BEEN SORT OF SEEKING BUT DIDN'T REALLY GET TO BECAUSE IT WASN'T ONE OF OUR

AREA PLANS? >> YES. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE IMPETUS OF THE OVERLAY BECAUSE WE WE COORDINATED WITH THE APPLICANT, WENT BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS AN EXTREMELY VISIBLE SITE FROM I-35, AS WELL AS LOOP TWO, 88 AND HIGHWAY 77. SO WE WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT DESIGN TO THE TO THE SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MINIMIZE ANY VISUAL IMPACTS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TYPE OF WAREHOUSE OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE. SO THE USE MADE SENSE, BUT WE WANTED THOSE THOSE ADDITIONAL DESIGN

CONSIDERATIONS. >> OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE. >> THANK YOU. HI, JULIE. DO THE PRESENTATION FROM THE DEVELOPER. WILL THAT TELL ME WHAT WHAT THEY PROPOSE DOING HERE?

>> I BELIEVE THEY MIGHT SHOW A CONCEPT SITE PLAN. THIS IS A PD OVERLAY. SO IT'S NOT KIND OF THAT FULL PD THAT WE OFTEN SEE THAT HAS A SITE PLAN ATTACHED TO IT. SO THIS IS THAT OVERLAY.

AND IT WHAT IT DOES IS IT ESTABLISHES CONSTRAINTS ESSENTIALLY.

>> AND AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THEY MUST HAVE SOME CONCEPT IN THEIR MIND AS TO WHAT THEY'D

LIKE TO GO IN THERE. >> THEY DO, THEY DO. YES, SIR. >> I'D, I'D SURE LIKE TO SEE

THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT

FIVE. >> AND I BET THAT THAT PRESENTATION IS ALSO GOING TO

SHOW ENTRY AND EXIT POINTS OF ACCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY THEN. YEAH. WELL, AND THEY CAN FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS BECAUSE UNLESS THIS IS THE WRONG CASE NUMBER. BUT.

OKAY. SORRY.

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>> OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS MILES TERRY. I'M WITH JACKSON SHAW. WE'RE THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT, AND JULIE DID A GREAT JOB. SO I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF. I'LL TALK QUICKLY ABOUT US AS THE DEVELOPER. EXCUSE ME. I'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN.

AND WE WE DID HIRE AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY TO DO AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. I KNOW BUDGET IS TOP OF MIND, SO WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL. EXCUSE ME. SO AGAIN WITH JACKSON SHAW, WE'RE A PRIVATE DEVELOPER BASED OUT OF DALLAS, TEXAS. WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 53 YEARS. WE DO THREE MAIN LINES OF PRODUCT THAT'S RESIDENTIAL LOT DEVELOPMENT, HOSPITALITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS HOTEL DEVELOPMENT. WE OWN AND OPERATE HOTELS. AND THEN OUR INDUSTRIAL LINE OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS BUSINESS PARKS. WE DO THIS ALL OVER KIND OF THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY. I FOCUS PREDOMINANTLY ON TEXAS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN DALLAS AND AUSTIN PRIMARILY. SO WE'LL TYPICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS WHERE I SPEND MY TIME IS 10 TO 200 ACRES, AND WE'LL GO BUILD ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 10 BUILDINGS.

THAT MIGHT BE 200,000 TO 2,000,000FT■!S. AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE, AND I HAVE SOME EXAMPLE PROJECTS, IS WE ALWAYS TRY TO HAVE A BIG EMPHASIS ON BUILDING A PRESENCE, BUILDING A BUSINESS PARK. WE WANT TO FEEL AND LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH MODERN FUNCTIONALITY OF NATURALLY DOCK DOORS AT CERTAIN POINTS IN THE PROJECT. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WITHIN THE PROJECT, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE KIND OF AN ENHANCED ENTRIES THROUGHOUT.

IT'S GOING TO LOOK AND FEEL AGAIN, IT'S IT'S WE'RE ALL ABOUT HOW IT FEELS AND HOW IT LOOKS. SO HERE'S SOME EXAMPLE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN DFW. THE BOTTOM RIGHT PROJECT IS IN BENBROOK JUST SOUTHWEST OF FORT WORTH. WE COMPLETED THAT LAST YEAR. IT'S A WHAT WAS IT, A FOUR BUILDING PROJECT, 917,000FT■!S. SO VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. IT'S RIGHT ON I-20. IT'S AT THE FRONT DOOR OF BENBROOK, VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. IT'S AT THEIR GATEWAY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE TYPE OF BUILDINGS WE BUILT THERE. I WOULD SEE A LOT OF THE SAME TYPE OF TENANTS. EVEN SO, WE SAW A COUPLE OF TENANTS IN THAT PROJECT. ARE TENANTS WHERE YOU SEE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ARE BRINGING THEIR HEADQUARTERS AND THEIR DISTRIBUTION TOGETHER, ONE OF THOSE BEING TANDY LEATHER, 100 YEAR OLD FORT WORTH COMPANY. THEY RELOCATED THEIR HQ AND THEIR DISTRIBUTION TO THAT FACILITY. SO 200 EMPLOYEES, 25,000FT■!S OF OFFIC, ABOUT 140,000 TOTAL SQUARE FEET.

ANOTHER ONE IS A GROUP CALLED MOORING USA. THEY RELOCATED FROM THE AIRPORT TO BE CLOSER TO KIND OF SOME OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DECISION MAKERS IN WEST FORT WORTH, AND SO THEY'RE BUILDING OUT SIMILAR 25,000FT■!S OF OFFICE. AND SO IN THOSE TWO FACILITIES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EXECUTIVES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SALES FOLKS, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE SOME WAREHOUSE BLUE COLLAR WORKERS AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLE PROJECTS. JUST TOUCHING ON THIS REAL QUICK. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ANYTIME WE COME TO A NEW COMMUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. SO IN SOUTH FORT WORTH IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. WE BUILT A PROJECT IN 2019, AND SINCE THEN THIS IS JUST THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA, WHETHER IT'S BOYS AND GIRLS OR BACKPACK DRIVES. AND WE I MEAN, WE FINISHED THAT PROJECT IN 22 AND WE'RE STILL DOING THINGS TODAY FOR THEM. SO WE PLAN TO DO THE SAME THING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. THE TEAM, JUST HIGH LEVEL. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DEVELOPER MACK IS HERE. I THINK YOU KNOW HIM AS OUR ENGINEER. HE CAN TOUCH ON LANDSCAPING PROBABLY BRIEFLY AS WELL. WE'RE USING A GROUP OUT OF CALIFORNIA, IS OUR ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT, ACTUALLY WROTE THE BOOK FOR INDUSTRIAL STANDARDS. SO VERY HIGHLY RESPECTED DEVELOPER. A LOT OF CREATIVE DESIGN THAT'S COMING FROM CALIFORNIA TO BRING THIS, BRING IT TO DALLAS. AND THEN I MENTIONED THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, WHICH WE'LL TOUCH ON WHICH THROUGH ECONOMIC CONSULTING. SITE PLAN COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. I WILL TOUCH ON THAT HERE. HERE'S HIGH LEVEL. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE'RE AT.

ZOOM IN. I DID WANT TO NOTE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING INTERESTING IN THE PRESENTATIONS FOR THE IMPACT FEES. THIS AREA WAS ACTUALLY NOTED IN THAT FUTURE LAND USE AS INDUSTRIAL. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT IS TODAY. I THINK WE'RE WE'RE EFFECTIVELY DOWN ZONING IT TO HAVE A BETTER LOOK AND FEEL. SO JUST SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING WHEN I SAW IN THAT PRESENTATION, THIS IS ACTUALLY A RENDERING OF I WON'T SAY THIS IS FINAL, BUT JUST GIVES YOU A LOOK AND FEEL OF WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED ELEVATION.

WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. BUT JULIE TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THESE THINGS. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE GLASS THAN YOU TYPICALLY SEE. ALL THE DOCK DOORS, TRUCK COURTS ARE ALL INTERNAL TO THE SITE. YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE ARE SCREENED AND I CAN TOUCH ON THAT. AND IT'S WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS A SHALLOW BAY PRODUCT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE YOUR 700,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSES WHERE YOU SEE A SEA

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AND AGAIN, THERE'S WE'RE TRYING TO DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING IT FEEL LIKE A BUSINESS PARK, NOT AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. IT'S IMPORTANT TO US. AND THEN THE SAME THING ON PHASE TWO AGAIN, DOCK DOORS, TRUCK COURT, ALL SHIELDED BY BUILDINGS. YOU'VE GOT THIS KIND OF CORNER WAREHOUSE PODS. YOU DO. AND THEN THE SAME THING ON THIS BUILDING. REAL QUICK ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY. SO TODAY THE PROPERTY IS IN AG. IT'S VALUED AT $1,100. IT'S GENERATING LESS THAN 50 BUCKS FOR THE CITY TODAY. IN 2030 WHEN THE PROJECT IS FULLY BUILT OUT, WE ESTIMATE IT WILL BE ABOUT $100 MILLION, SO SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE TOTAL INVESTMENT IN THE PROJECT. BUT BASED ON COMPS, THAT'S WHERE IT IS TODAY. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THAT WOULD GENERATE FOR THE CITY OVER A 25 YEAR PERIOD. SO WE ESTIMATE ALMOST $40 MILLION OF PROPERTY TAXES JUST IN I BELIEVE THAT'S JUST IN REAL PROPERTY. NO, I'M SORRY, THAT'S REAL PROPERTY. AND BUSINESS PROPERTY OVER A 25 YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN WE WOULD ESTIMATE BASED ON PUBLIC DATA BASED ON TYPES OF PROJECTS. BUREAU OF LABOR, 616 JOBS AT AN AVERAGE WAGE OF $62,000 FOR THE JOBS, JOBS AS WELL. SO HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THAT SAME DATA OVER A 25 YEAR PERIOD. SO WE THINK IT'S MEANINGFUL OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE IF IT STAYS OR LESS THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY. I'LL KIND OF STOP THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT

HAVE OKAY. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. AND I'LL NOTE, I MEAN, WITHOUT GOING TOO FAR DOWN THAT ROAD, I MEAN, THE PROPERTY MANAGER OWNER, WHAT THOSE ALL THOSE TITLES, I MEAN, HAS THE STRICTEST OF STANDARDS BEYOND WHAT WE CAN IMPOSE. SO I, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE NAVIGATED THAT WELL AND GOT TO THIS POINT SAYS SAYS A LOT, YOU KNOW. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. REPRESENTATIVE

DISTRICT FIVE. >> CAN YOU PULL UP THAT SITE PLAN MAP REAL QUICK?

>> OF COURSE. >> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU RIGHT THERE. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO ZOOM IN. THERE WAS MAYBE A LATER ONE THAT HAD KIND OF THE. YEAH. I'M LOOKING FOR THAT MINIMUM DISTANCE OF THE, OF THE BUILDINGS. CAN YOU GIVE ME THE MINIMUM DISTANCE. FROM DOCK TO

PARKING. >> DOCK TO PARKING. SO ARE YOU SAYING HELP ME OUT WHERE YOU'RE

THINKING THEY'RE ON DOCKED PARKING? >> YEAH, RIGHT.

>> THEY'RE AUTO PARKING HERE. >> NO, THE DOCK IN THE BACK FROM THE DOCK BUILDING TO THE

CURB, FROM THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. >> TO THE BUILDING. FROM BACK

OF BUILDING TO BACK OF CURB. HERE, IT'S 30FT. >> OF ALL OF ALL THOSE

BUILDINGS. WHAT'S THE MINIMUM DISTANCE? IS IT ALL THE SAME? >> 3130 OKAY. SO 130 IS HERE.

HERE IT'S 188 OR 185 ON THIS BUILDING, 185 ON BUILDING THREE 185 ON BUILDING FIVE.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THAT'S GOOD. 135 ON BUILDING FOUR. 185 ON BUILDING SIX. YEAH.

SO MINIMUM KIND OF INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR CLASS A NOWADAYS IS 130.

>> AS I BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AS I NAVIGATE SOME OF THE NEW BUILDS AROUND DFW, THERE'S LESS SPACE

BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIT MORE IN. YEAH. >> AND THEY'RE TRYING TO

MAXIMIZE. >> COVERAGE OVER THE OVER THE ROAD. CONTRACTORS DON'T KNOW HOW TO BACK UP. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN FOR ME GIVEN I DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

SO SURE. WELL DONE. VERY GOOD. >> AND YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT TRAFFIC. WE WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS WITH TXDOT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE CURB CUTS OFF THE FRONTAGE.

>> I NOTICED THAT. >> YEP. WE'LL HAVE ONE OFF OF 288 NOW, SIMILAR TO HOW THERE IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 288. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TWO ON 77 IN THE FUTURE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. >> 35 I'M SORRY.

>> I WAS IN FACT, I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR THAT 35. I FIGURED YOU'D HAVE ONE SOUTH OF.

I FIGURED YOU'D HAVE ONE, TWO ON ON 77, BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR ONE OFF OF 35, SO I'M GLAD YOU WORK WITH THEM. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIT A COUPLE IN. YES. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> OF COURSE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR STAFF SEEING NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, IT'S PUBLIC HEARING. COME DOWN. YES. COME ON DOWN.

GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU CAN FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. YOU'LL HAVE. FOUR MINUTES.

>> HEY. >> MY NAME IS CRYSTAL LINDSEY. I LIVE OFF TEASLEY LANE. NO

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IMPORTANT FOR THE CLIENTS, I HOPE EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. APPRECIATE IT. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE.

>> HAPPILY MOVE APPROVAL. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE.

>> DISTRICT ONE. >> I'LL SECOND HERE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK WITH THE PROJECT.

[A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton extending the approval period for a Specific Use Permit for a multifamily dwelling use originally approved via Ordinance S23-0005b for approximately 22.81-acres of land, generally located on the south side of Duchess Drive, approximately 742 feet west of Loop 288 in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing for severability and an effective date. (S25-0009, Olivo Apartments, Angie Manglaris)]

CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, EXTENDING THE APPROVAL PERIOD FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING USING ORIGINAL ORIGINALLY APPROVED VIA ORDINANCE S230005B FOR APPROXIMATELY 22.81 ACRES OF LAND, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE

SOUTH SIDE OF DUCHESS DRIVE. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ANGIE MANGLARES, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER, HERE TO PRESENT S 25 0009. THIS IS A SUP EXTENSION REQUEST FOR THE ALIVIO APARTMENTS, SO WE DON'T SEE VERY MANY OF THESE. BUT THIS IS A REQUEST TO EXTEND THE APPROVAL PERIOD FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT ALLOWS FOR MULTIFAMILY USE ON APPROXIMATELY 22 ACRES OF LAND. THIS SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED JUST WEST OF LOOP 288 AND SOUTH OF DUCHESS DRIVE. IT IS ZONED SUBURBAN CORRIDOR, IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, AND THEY DO HAVE AN APPROVED SUP. S 23 005 THAT WAS APPROVED ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2023. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. IT IS 262 MULTIFAMILY UNITS SPREAD ACROSS SEVEN BUILDINGS. IT DOES TAKE ACCESS OFF OF DUCHESS DRIVE AND OFFERS INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION.

THERE ARE ON SITE AMENITIES, AND TO THE SOUTH THERE IS SIGNIFICANT LAND THAT IS PRESERVED AS PART OF THIS PLAN AND AS POSSIBLE FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION. NOW, THE DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES SPECIFY THAT SUPS EXPIRE 24 MONTHS AFTER APPROVAL, UNLESS THAT USE IS SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY THAT TIME. SO THIS WAS APPROVED ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2025. AND WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED ONE ROUND OF CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS FOR STAFF REVIEW, THEY ARE NOT YET AT THAT POINT WHERE WE CONSIDER THIS PROJECT TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. NOW, THE DDC ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO REQUEST A ONE TIME, ONE YEAR EXTENSION PERIOD, AND THAT IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE ORIGINAL APPROVING BODY, WHICH IS YOU ALL CITY COUNCIL. SO THE APPLICANT HAS STATED, AND THEY BELIEVE THEY SUBMITTED A SHORT NARRATIVE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THEIR BACKUP, THAT SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THE DELAY IN CONSTRUCTION CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO HUD FINANCING, AS WELL AS JUST THE 2025 DEVELOPMENT MARKET STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ONE TIME, ONE YEAR EXTENSION. IF APPROVED, IT WOULD BE VALID UNTIL OCTOBER 24TH, 2026, AND

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

TWO. >> THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S NOT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES JOB TO TO DO FINANCIAL FORECASTING, BUT THE DEVELOPER BROUGHT THAT UP AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR.

CONTINUING AN SUPP THAT WELL, I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT ME THAT I HAD PROBLEMS WITH IN THE BEGINNING. SO DO WE. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE CONDITIONS HAVE IMPROVED. I MEAN, IF THEY IF THEY'VE GOT THINGS THAT ARE PREVENTING THEM FROM DOING THE PROPOSAL. WITHIN THE GUARDRAILS OF WHAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CAN, CAN TALK ABOUT. AND I RECOGNIZE YOU, YOU HAVE RESTRICTIONS AND INABILITY TO FORECAST. YOU'RE NOT FINANCIAL PLANNERS, BUT DO WE ANTICIPATE ANY OF THOSE CHANGING OVER THE NEXT YEAR? I MEAN, EVERYTHING THEY MENTIONED SEEMED LIKE IT

WILL GET LIKELY GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER. >> SURE I CAN I CAN SPEAK TO WHERE THEY'RE AT CURRENTLY AND MAYBE ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO TO TALK MORE ABOUT THEIR ABILITY

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CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

FOUR. >> I'M JUST VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY OF MULTIFAMILY IN THIS AREA. THERE'S THERE'S APARTMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF LOOP 288 BUILT RIGHT TO THE I MEAN, RIGHT TO THE CURB. I'M JUST VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF, OF OF UNITS HERE. AND, AND I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY NO ON THIS

ONE. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. >> ARE THEY ALREADY TURNING

DIRT RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS. >> NO, MA'AM. THEY'RE AT THE CIVIL ENGINEERING STAGE STILL, SO THEY WOULD NEED TO GET THE APPROVAL OF THAT AND THEIR FINAL PLAT BEFORE WE WOULD ALLOW FOR GRADING TO BEGIN ON THE SITE GRADING.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH, I WOULD I TOO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT BECAUSE. MY HESITATION IS THIS WHEN WE TALK I, I WANT TO BE CONSISTENT IF NOTHING ELSE. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER, WASTEWATER AND THE FEES AND ALL THESE THINGS, I MEAN, THOSE KICK IN IRRESPECTIVE OF SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GET YOUR DEAL IN, YOU GOT TO GET IT DONE OR ELSE, YOU KNOW, YOU MISS THAT WINDOW AND WE'RE HOLDING PEOPLE TO IT. I'M HOLDING STAFF TO IT SAYING, HEY, YOU GOT TO BUILD THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU'D BUILD THESE THINGS. YOU HAD TWO YEARS. AND SO. I NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED OVER TWO YEARS. AND AND I ALSO MY CONCERN IS ALSO TO TO COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND'S CONCERN. THERE'S WERE YOU READING THE TEA LEAVES AND SAYING, HEY, THERE'S TOO MANY MULTIFAMILY UNITS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND PLAY THE LONG GAME. DON'T KNOW THAT. AND I'M

NOT SUBSCRIBING THAT TO THEM. I'M JUST SAYING. I AM HESITANT. >> SURE, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT

COME DOWN AND ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD

EVENING COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US OUT TODAY. >> IF YOU.

>> GIVE US YOUR NAME. >> JUST SO I. >> CAN HAVE GRIFFIN NEAL WITH TREMONT GROUP. THANK YOU. SO WE BOUGHT THIS LAND UPON APPROVAL OF THE ORIGINAL SCP. WE'VE SPENT IN TOTAL ABOUT $4.5 MILLION BETWEEN THE LAND AND ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL HALF $1 MILLION IN ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL COSTS. PURSUING THE PROJECT. ONE OF THOSE IS AROUND THE SUBMITTALS WITH ENGINEERING. AND WE WERE GETTING READY TO SUBMIT OUR PERMIT. SET OF DRAWINGS IN WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HUD FOR THE BETTER PART OF 18 MONTHS. WE HAD OUR CAPITAL PARTNER TO PURSUE THE PROJECT, AND HUD HAD A DESIGN STANDARD OF THE GAS LINE RUNNING THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT BASICALLY MADE THE PROJECT UNATTRACTIVE FOR ANY POTENTIAL RESIDENT TO LIVE THERE, WHICH WAS IT WAS ABOUT 150 FOOT SETBACK AND A WALL TO BE BUILT TO POTENTIALLY IN THE BLACK SWAN EVENT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH THIS GAS LINE FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO BE SHIELDED, MIND YOU, THAT THIS GAS LINE GOES FROM HERE ALL THE WAY, I THINK NORTH OF THE UNITED STATES. AND SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, WE HAD TO MOVE ON FROM HUD FINANCING AND GO THE CONVENTIONAL ROUTE, WHICH IS REGIONAL BANK FINANCING TYPICALLY, AND LOOK FOR NEW CAPITAL PARTNERS. WHILE INTEREST RATES AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS REMAINED ELEVATED. WE'RE A SMALL FIRM OF TEN PEOPLE, AND IT PUT A LOT OF STRESS ON OUR COMPANY TO, FROM A BANDWIDTH PERSPECTIVE, TO HAVE THAT CAPITAL PARTNER IN LINE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON TODAY. WE'RE ENGAGED WITH THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS, AND WE REMAIN EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE

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ADJACENT LAND OF DEVELOPMENT. AND FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD AND SOMETIMES DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, CAN BE PROLONGED. AND WE'RE HERE ASKING TO

EXERCISE THE ONE YEAR OPTION. >> OKAY. >> WE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> COUNCILPERSON JESTER AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS HAS ALREADY ALL BEEN APPROVED, THAT YOU'VE PUT IN OVER 4 MILLION. BUT I HAVE TO SAY WITH THE HUD REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFETY IN THE PIPELINE IN CASE OF WORST CASE SCENARIO. WELL, NOW THAT MAKES ME WORRIED ABOUT THE PIPELINE.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT 150 FOOT SETBACK AND THE WALL. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY OF THESE RESIDENTS FROM THE POTENTIAL WORST CASE

SCENARIO? OR DO YOU KNOW YET? SORRY, I'M GOING TO PUT. >> YOU.

>> ON THE SPOT. YEAH. WELL THE THE DESIGN WELL, AGAIN, THIS PIPELINE RUNS THROUGHOUT YOUR ENTIRE CITY AND THERE'S DEVELOPMENT ALL ALONG IT. AND THE READINGS OF THIS PIPELINE BY ANY CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, INCLUDING BANKS WHO HAVE THE STRICTEST REQUIREMENTS.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE EXACT PSI RATING IS TODAY. HAD I BEEN, WOULD HAVE BROUGHT OUR ENGINEERING TEAM ACCORDINGLY. BUT AGAIN, ALL APPROVED BY THEM AND ANYONE ELSE'S STANDARDS BUT HUD IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERING REVISING SOME OF THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS AT A NATIONAL LEVEL

AS WELL, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THIS IS ONE OF THEM. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK

YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. >> MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

>> OKAY, THEN. >> I'LL WAIT IF I NEED TO. >> YEAH. I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHO ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, BUT BUT I NEED SOMEONE TO STEP TO ME. AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS THAT LEADS TO THE INITIAL SUP REQUEST. SO I'M HAVING A HARD TIME RECONCILING THESE TWO THINGS. IF YOU CAME BEFORE THE SCP, IT GOT APPROVED, AND THEN YOU FOUND OUT HUD'S REQUIREMENT WASN'T APPEALING. WHAT'S THE SEQUENCE OF THOSE THINGS? HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN AFTER YOU COME FORWARD FOR SCP REQUEST?

>> WELL, YOU WORK WITH HUD. BASICALLY ONCE YOU HAVE THE ZONING IN PLACE, OR AT LEAST THAT'S HOW WE APPROACHED IT IN THIS CASE. AND HUD HAS NOTORIOUSLY SLOW TIMELINES FOR APPROVALS FROM START TO FINISH IS A 12 TO 18 MONTH PROCESS, AND WE ENGAGED WITH COLLIER INTERNATIONAL'S TEAM, WHO WERE GREAT TO WORK WITH. AND YEAH, IT JUST BY THE TIME WE CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE INITIAL CIVIL ENGINEERING WORK, ARCHITECTURAL, THE CITY OF DENTON'S PROCESS, WE THEN GO THROUGH HUD'S SUBMITTAL PROCESS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND IT WAS, AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND BASICALLY DEEMING THEIR DESIGN

STANDARDS UNFEASIBLE, THAT WE HAD TO MOVE ON FROM HUD. >> GOT IT. BUT IF I'M TRACKING

WITH YOU, YOU SAID IT'S 18 MONTHS FOR HUD. TRADITIONALLY. >> IT CAN BE 12 TO 18 MONTHS.

I'M SAYING, OKAY, BETWEEN US FINDING OUR CAPITAL PARTNER, CPG CAPITAL, WHO HAS ACTUALLY BUILT A COUPLE PROJECTS HERE IN DENTON AND WORKING WITH HUD, IT TOOK US ABOUT 12 TO 18 MONTHS.

AND FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANS AND LOOK FOR

OUR NEXT CAPITAL PARTNER FOR THE PROJECT. >> RIGHT.

>> SO THE CONSISTENCY I WOULD HOPE TO SEEK TONIGHT WOULD BE GRACE PERIOD ON THE EXTENSION

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>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. STAFF WHO HAVE A QUESTION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM

DISTRICT FIVE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME

EXAMPLES IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE DONE THIS? >> OFF THE.

>> TOP OF MY MIND. >> EXCEPT WE'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE CAN DOESN'T MEAN WE ALWAYS DO THINGS.

>> WE DID 1 IN 2021. I BELIEVE THE PROJECT WAS FORCED CROSSING, BUT I COULD BE INCORRECT ON

THAT. >> WELL, THE THE THE. >> BUT.

>> THEY'RE NOT. >> A PROJECT. DOESN'T MATTER. >> OKAY.

>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT YOU PERHAPS DID THAT IN THE PAST?

>> SOME OF THE REASONS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR ONES TO EITHER FUNDING OR CHALLENGES THROUGHOUT THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANTS. YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN AN SCP COMES FORWARD, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THAT DETAILED SITE PLAN. BUT AS WITH ANY PROJECT, WHEN WORKING THROUGH THE CONVERSION OF SITE PLAN TO CIVIL PLANS, DEVELOPERS COULD RUN INTO HICCUPS. AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MORE COMMON REASONS FOR DELAY. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE SEE

TOO REGULARLY. I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE WAS IN 2021. >> BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY

UNCOMMON THROUGHOUT THE STATE. >> IT COULD KNOW IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY.

>> I'M ASKING THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE INTEREST OF OF FAIRNESS, WE WANT TO TREAT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, FAIR. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. SO OKAY. THANKS, ANDY.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY I WILL I'LL TAKE A MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE

FROM DISTRICT ONE. >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> IS THERE A SECOND MAYOR PRO

TEM? >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE THE EXTENSION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES 4 TO 3. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM B. THANK YOU. WHICH IS. ID 251544.

[B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton by three separate votes, each being conducted on September 16, 2025, October 21, 2025, and December 2, 2025, and granting a nonexclusive gas franchise to Universal Natural Gas, LLC, for use of public rights-of-way in a designated area in the City of Denton for the purpose of constructing, maintaining and operating a system of pipelines and other facilities for the provision, transportation, distribution and conveyance of gas to customers in such designated area; authorizing execution of a franchise agreement between the City of Denton and Universal Natural Gas, LLC, providing for compensation to the City for the use of the public right of ways, providing terms, conditions and requirements related to the use of public rights-of-way in the City of Denton and to the construction, maintenance and operation of pipelines and other facilities for the provision, distribution and transportation of gas to customers in the designated area of the City of Denton; providing for publication; and providing an effective date.]

LLC FOR THE USE OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

SCOTT MCDONALD, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A PROPOSED FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS. JUST FOR BACKGROUND, FOR MOST ALL OF YOU, I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH FRANCHISE UTILITY AGREEMENTS THAT ALLOWS FOR FRANCHISE UTILITIES TO OPERATE WITHIN OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, INSTALL ITS EQUIPMENT, AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO CUSTOMERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS AGREEMENT WITH UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS, THEY ARE A NEW UTILITY PROVIDER WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. THEY WILL BE PROVIDING NATURAL GAS SERVICES TO JUST A COUPLE OF AREAS, WHICH WILL BE THE HUNTER RANCH, AS WELL AS LEGENDS RANCH. AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE FACILITIES ARE UNDERWAY. THE AGREEMENT IS STRUCTURED AFTER WHAT WE DO WITH ATMOS, SO IT'S VERY COMMON THEME. THIS MAP ILLUSTRATES TO THE TOP SIDE OF THE MAP YOU WILL SEE LEGENDS RANCH. TO THE SOUTH SIDE YOU WILL SEE HUNTER RANCH AND THEN YOU WILL SEE SOUTHWEST PARK. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE LEGENDS RANCH AREA WILL BE WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. ONLY. LEGENDS RANCH HAS SOME PROPERTY WHICH IS IN THE CITY, AND SOME THAT'S WITHOUT. THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT WILL BE TEN YEARS, WITH THE OPTION OF RENEWAL FOR ONE FIVE YEAR TERM. THEY WILL. THE CITY WILL GRANT THE USE BUT CONTROL THE RIGHT OF WAY. THEY WILL PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE PLANNED RIGHT OF WAY CONSTRUCTION, MAINTAIN THE RECORDS OF INSTALLATION. WE CAN ASK THAT THEY RELOCATE ANY OF THEIR FACILITIES AS NECESSARY, AND THE PAYMENT WILL BE EQUAL TO THAT OF A 5% OF THE COMPANY'S GROSS RECEIPTS. AND THEY'VE ALSO AGREED TO CONNECT OUR FUTURE SOUTHWEST PARK AT THE COMPANY'S EXPENSE. THE NEXT STEPS ON THIS IS THIS REQUIRES THREE HEARINGS. ONE OF THOSE IS THIS EVENING, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE TWO SUBSEQUENT ON THE NEXT TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 21ST AND DECEMBER 2ND. UNIVERSAL GAS MUST PUBLISH THIS ORDINANCE IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS. THE DENTON RECORD-CHRONICLE, IF APPROVED, THE UNIVERSAL GAS MUST PROVIDE A LETTER OF ACCEPTANCE LETTER WITH THE CITY SECRETARY WITHIN

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DECEMBER 2ND. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> THANK YOU. HEY, SCOTT, DOES ATMOS ALSO SERVE IN THESE REGIONS OR THIS WOULD BE THE

ONLY GAS PROVIDER IF WE APPROVE IT. >> THIS WOULD BE THE GAS

PROVIDER OKAY. >> SO AND THE IS IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR UNIVERSAL TO ALSO SERVICE OTHER REGIONS OF THE CITY IN SOME FUTURE DATE. BECAUSE OF WE'RE STARTING THE

BALL ROLLING HERE OR NOT. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT. >> I WOULD THINK THAT THE OPPORTUNITY MAY EXIST. THIS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT IS IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THOSE AREAS

THAT WERE MENTIONED AND SHOWN ON THE MAP. >> OKAY, SO THEY WOULDN'T, WITHOUT SOME OTHER SUBSEQUENT AGREEMENT, BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR CORPORATE

LIMITS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE

CLARITY, >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. YOU INDICATED THAT UNIVERSAL IS IS NEW IS A NEW COMPANY OR NEW TO

OUR REGION. AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF IT. >> NEW NEW FRANCHISE USER

WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. >> OKAY. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND. YES OKAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TEN YEAR A TEN YEAR. WHAT IS THAT AN AGREEMENT WITH A WITH A WITH A WITH A FIVE YEAR OPTION.

ISN'T THIS ESSENTIALLY A FOREVER AGREEMENT? I MEAN, THE HOUSES AREN'T GOING TO GO AWAY.

>> CORRECT. BUT OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE WORK WITH EACH OF THE UTILITIES. WE BRING THEM BACK THROUGH COUNCIL AS TERMS MAY CHANGE OR WHATEVER IS DONE. SO THIS IS A TEN YEAR AGREEMENT. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND IT FOR

FIVE ADDITIONAL OKAY. >> SO WORST CASE SCENARIO AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER AFTER THIS THIS THIS HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THIS NEW

COMPANY. WHAT HAPPENS? >> I WOULD ALMOST DEFER, I THINK, TO MACK TO ASK THE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH US NOT RENEWING A FRANCHISE LEASE, BUT

I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY EXISTS. >> THAT AND THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT, THAT I DON'T SEE THAT WE EVER DON'T RENEW THIS THING. AND SO I WONDER WHY WE DO IT IN IN TEN YEAR AND FIVE YEAR

INCREMENTS. >> IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO COME BACK TO THE FRANCHISE AND REWORK THE DEAL, TO WORK OUT DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS. BUT AS FAR AS THE LINE ITSELF, YEAH, THE LINE IS IN THE GROUND. IT'S GOING TO BE THERE. I'VE SEEN CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS A WORST CASE SCENARIO WHERE THE CITY WAS NOT ABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT AND BASICALLY JUST GRANTED THE UNILATERAL FRANCHISE WASN'T AN AGREEMENT, JUST DICTATED THE FRANCHISE TO THE COMPANY. THAT'S WORST CASE. NOBODY WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF IT. THE THE GAS WASN'T CUT OFF, THE GAS CONTINUED TO BE SERVED. THE CUSTOMER WAS NEVER CUT OFF, BUT THE CITY AND THE GAS COMPANY HAD TO WORK OUT KIND OF AN

ALTERNATE ARRANGEMENT. THAT'S KIND OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. >> OKAY. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A A FAIRLY SHORT TERM AGREEMENT FOR A AWFULLY, AWFULLY LONG TERM CUSTOMER. ANYWAY. THANK YOU,

THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FROM IT. SO THIS JUST LOOKS LIKE A WIN

WIN. I MOVED TO ADOPT AS PROPOSED. >> IS THERE.

>> A SECOND MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU SCOTT, BY THE WAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE

YOU. >> DO WE. WAS THAT. >> SO THAT TAKES US TO. AND I'LL TAKE A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE NOW SCOTT IS THAT YOU PRESENTING AGAIN OR IS THAT OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO. AND PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO COME BACK AND

SEE US NOW. YOU'RE HERE. OKAY. WELL, THANK. >> YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. AND THAT TAKES US TO ITEM. SIX C, WHICH

[C. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, adopting the fiscal year 2025-2026 annual program of services (budget) and the capital improvement program of the City of Denton, Texas, for the fiscal year beginning on October 1, 2025 and ending on September 30, 2026; appropriating funds from available resources; ratifying all prior transfers made under the direction of the City Manager pursuant to Article VIII, Section 8.07 of the city charter of the City of Denton; requiring City Manager to file a copy of the budget with the City Secretary, Denton County Clerk and Texas Comptroller, and ensuring the record vote, budget and cover page is posted on the city’s website; and declaring an effective date. TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 This taxpayer impact statement is required by Government Code § 551.043(c) to be posted on the notice of a meeting at which a governmental body will discuss or adopt a budget for the governmental body. This Taxpayer Impact Statement shows the median-value homestead property in the City of Denton, a comparison of the property tax bill in dollars pertaining to the property for the current fiscal year to an estimate of the property tax bill in dollars for the same property for the upcoming fiscal year. Taxpayer Impact Statement FY 2025 FY 2026 FY 2026 Adopted No-New-Revenue Proposed Tax Rate Total tax rate (per $100 of value) $0.585420 $0.554279 $0.595420 Median homestead taxable value $379,836 $386,698 $386,698 Tax on average homestead $2,223.64 $2,143.39 $2,302.48 Difference to Current Year Tax Bill ($80.25) $78.84]

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ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. >> MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MATT HAMILTON. FINANCE. WE HAD A PRESENTATION THAT WAS PREPARED. THIS THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO THE PRESENTATION WAS GIVEN AT THAT TIME. WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? THE FIRST FOUR ITEMS ARE RELATED TO BUDGET ADOPTION. THE FIRST ITEM THAT YOU'LL SEE, THIS ONE IS FOR THE BUDGET ITSELF. THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF THE TAX RATE.

THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF THE TAX RULES, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE TAX CODE THAT ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO MAIL THE TAX BILLS. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS, IS THE RATIFICATION OF THE BUDGET, WHICH IS REQUIRED WHEN THE BUDGET PROPOSES A TAX RATE THAT IS HIGHER THAN IT IMPOSES NEW, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER TAX RATE. SO THAT FOURTH ITEM IS ALSO ALSO REQUIRED. SO MAYOR, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE.

>> ANY GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. MATT. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD THIS MORNING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FUNDING OPTIONS FOR SOME OF THE BUDGET ITEMS, THOSE ARE NOT GERMANE BECAUSE THE THE THE TOTAL IS SET OR THEY'RE THEY'RE BAKED INTO BUDGET. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON'S DISCUSSION

IS IMPACTS THIS VOTE AND VICE VERSA. >> YES. SO COUNCIL APPROPRIATES BASED ON A FUND LEVEL AND APPROVES ON A FUND LEVEL, THE TOURIST AND CONVENTION FUND, WHICH THE FUNDS ARE A PART OF. ALL ROLL UP INTO THAT FUND LEVEL. SO YOU KNOW, THE OPTIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, FUNDS COULD BE MOVED WITHIN THAT AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON TONIGHT IS THAT TOTAL APPROPRIATION NUMBER, WHICH DID NOT CHANGE

UNDER ANY OF THE PRESENTED SCENARIOS. >> OKAY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CASE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE IT PUBLICLY FOR CLARITY. THANK YOU. YEAH.

>> OKAY. SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE 20 2526 BUDGET AS PRESENTED. AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN DOES THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WHEN IS THAT? YEAH. SO THERE'S SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO READ. IF YOU IF SOMEONE HAS THAT REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

TWO. >> SO JUST FOR CLARITY, MR. MAYOR, THE LANGUAGE ON THE

HANDOUT THAT WE HAVE. THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. >> YES.

>> OKAY. AND AND MR. CITY ATTORNEY, WE NEED TO WE NEED TO SAY THE LANGUAGE AS PRESENTED.

CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF EXTEMPORANEOUS COMMENT. I WILL AVOID THAT. THEN I MOVE TO ADOPT THE 2025 2026 BUDGET AS PRESENTED.

>> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU TO ALL STAFF THAT HELPED GET US TO THIS POINT. REGRETTABLY, THE DEBT SIDE OF THINGS I'LL JUST GET OUT OF THE WAY IS, IS, IS JUST A STRAIGHT LINE CALCULATION. AND SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PAY ENOUGH DOWN ENOUGH DEBT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO DO YEOMAN'S WORK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER. SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE THE HOLISTIC EFFORT TO MINIMIZE IMPACT ON OUR CITIZENS WHILE DELIVERING THE BEST OF SERVICE. AND I THINK THERE'S THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT AHEAD TO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS AND GET US BACK LEVEL SET. BUT WITH THAT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES

[D. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, levying the ad valorem property tax of the City of Denton, Texas, for the year 2025, on all taxable property within the corporate limits of the City on January 1, 2025, and adopting a tax rate of $0.595420 per $100 of valuation for 2025; providing revenues for payment of current municipal maintenance and operation expenses and for payment of interest and principal on outstanding City of Denton debt; providing for limited exemptions of certain homesteads; providing for enforcement of collections; providing for a severability clause; and providing an effective date.]

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REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.59542, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A

7.4% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. AND TO APPROVE ITEM 242625. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

ONE. >> I'LL SECOND. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE NEXT SEGMENT OF THIS REPRESENTATIVE. FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE AN INTEREST IN SINKING RATE OF 0.260640.

>> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE SECOND PORTION OF THIS. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. AND THEN LASTLY FOR THIS ITEM, I'LL TAKE A MOTION REPRESENTATIVE.

FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RATE

OF 0.334780. >> AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT

[E. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, approving the 2025 tax rolls; and providing an effective date.]

EFFECTIVE DATE. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.

>> IS REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM F, ID 242627. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE

[F. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, ratifying the adoption of the fiscal year 2025-2026 Annual Program of Services (Budget) and the Capital Improvement Program of the City of Denton, Texas, for the fiscal year beginning on October 1, 2025, and ending on September 30, 2026 when the budget will raise more revenue from property taxes than last year’s budget; and providing an effective date.]

TEXAS. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM AS PRESENTED.

>> OKAY AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT. >> SIX.

>> SECOND OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM G ID 242629. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF

[G. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, establishing the rates and fees for water and water service; repealing ordinance no. 24-235; providing for a repealer; providing for a severability clause; and, providing for an effective date.]

REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 224235. PROVIDING FOR A REPEALER PROVIDING FOR

SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THE RATES CHANGES. THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ARE RELATED TO THE UTILITIES, AND THEN THE REMAINING FOUR ARE RELATED TO THE GENERAL FUND, POLICE, FIRE, PARKS AND LIBRARY.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE STAFF. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS ON ANY OF THE RATE

CHANGES. >> GOT IT. OKAY. >> SO REPRESENTATIVE FROM

DISTRICT. >> TWO, DISTRICT. >> OH SORRY, MY MIC WAS OFF.

JUST FOR CLARITY, WE NEED THAT THAT SAME RESTRICTED LANGUAGE. ? >> I DON'T THINK SO. AT THIS

PHASE, NO, WE'RE AT. >> A WE CAN VOTE NORMALLY. IS WHAT I'M HEARING CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEN THEN I WILL SAY WITH BECAUSE I'VE BEEN BUSTING AT THE SEAMS TO DO SOME EXTEMPORANEOUS MOTIONING, I WILL SAY THAT I ENCOURAGE STAFF TO TO LISTEN TO THE, THE DIALOG.

I KNOW YOU WILL, IN TERMS OF SETTING RATES, SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE EXPRESSED DURING THE WORKSHOP, THINGS TO TRY TO ACHIEVE OVER THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, THAT MAYBE WERE A

[03:30:01]

WILL MOVE APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES

[H. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, establishing the rates and fees for wastewater service; repealing ordinance no. 24-236; providing for a repealer; providing for a severability clause; and providing an effective date.]

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. >> MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM I. ID 242632. CONSIDER

[I. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, establishing the rates for Solid Waste and Recycling collection service; repealing ordinance no. 24-238; providing for a repealer; providing for a severability clause; and, providing an effective date.]

PROVIDING FOR REPEALER, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR

EFFECTIVE DATE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ITEM

AS PRESENTED. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

[J. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton adopting a schedule of fees for the Denton Public Library; superseding all prior ordinances establishing fees in conflict with such schedule; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]

SIX. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.

>> MAYOR PRO. >> TEM SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US

[K. Consider adoption of an ordinance adopting a schedule of fees for the use of the Denton Police Department public safety training center, firearms range, officer special event and off-duty/private event pay, and motor vehicle escorts for hire; providing for severability; superseding all prior ordinances establishing fees in conflict with such schedule; and establishing an effective date.]

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, SUPERSEDING ALL PRIOR ORDINANCES ESTABLISHING FEES AND CONFLICT WITH SUCH SCHEDULE AND AND PRIORITIES, AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> THANK YOU MAYOR FOR ALL THE EXCELLENT READING. BY THE WAY, TONIGHT, I APPRECIATE YOU. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS

PRESENTED. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO.

>> TEM. >> AND I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO

[L. Consider adoption of an ordinance adopting a schedule of fees for the Denton Fire Department; superceding all prior fees in conflict with such schedule; providing severability; providing a repealer; and establishing an effective date.]

PROVIDING SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING A REPEALER, AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ITEM

AS PRESENTED. >> MAYOR PRO. >> TEM.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. >> I SWEAR SHE SAID THAT, RIGHT.

[M. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton adopting a schedule of fees, updating the existing charges and fees for use of City owned property and facilities, and for City services provided at or by Parks and Recreation; superseding prior fee schedules; providing severability and repealer clauses; and providing an effective date.]

>> AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM. ITEM M ID 251638. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, ADOPTING A SCHEDULE OF FEES, UPDATING THE EXISTING CHANGES AND FEES FOR USE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND FACILITIES, AND FOR THE CITY SERVICES PROVIDED AT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, SUPERSEDING PRIOR FEE SCHEDULES, PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND REPEALER CLAUSES, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S

VOTE ON THE SCREEN. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

AND MADAM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. >> THANK YOU. WE JUST.

>> WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO THANK ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND STAFF AND DIRECTORS WHO ARE HERE. EVERYONE HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS BUDGET. MATT HAS LED THE BUDGET TEAM IN THE

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[7. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

>> EXCELLENT. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. THAT TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS. ANY CONCLUDING ITEMS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

SIX? >> WELL, I HATE GOODBYES, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE LAST THANK YOU TO SCOTT MCDONALD. THE REPUTATION HE HAS BUILT WITH THE STAFF, THE SUCCESSION PLANNING AND THE OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT HE WORKS WITH NOT ONLY IN THE CITY OF DENTON, BUT THE REPUTATION THAT HE HAS HELPED US BUILD IN THE COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BEYOND, CANNOT BE MEASURED. AND SO THERE'S THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO OVERSTATE THE APPRECIATION ON BEHALF OF OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS AND PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE. AND YOU WILL VERY MUCH BE MISSED. WE WISH YOU ABSOLUTELY ALL THE HEALTH, HAPPINESS AND SUCCESS THAT YOU CAN HAVE. BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO WITHOUT SAYING ONE LAST THANK YOU. AND WHAT, YOU'RE REALLY LEAVING YOUR IMPRINT HERE AND

FOR FOR THE GOOD. THANK YOU, MR. MCDONALD. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

FIVE. >> I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE SOME TIME THIS WEEKEND AND COME OUT AND SUPPORT BLUESFEST. ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE DO ALL YEAR, SO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE OUT THIS WEEKEND.

>> OKAY. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> THANK YOU. I WAS ALSO GOING TO DO BLUESFEST, SO I'LL SKIP ON BY THAT ONE. AND JUST REMIND SCOTT THAT I CAN DRIVE OUT TO WEATHERFORD AND ATTEND HIS NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND WHERE HE MIGHT BE TRYING TO GET THINGS THROUGH. SO BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE I'LL MISS HIM SO MUCH,

>> YOU'LL HAVE NOBODY ELSE. >> ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE. OH,

MAYOR PRO TEM. >> SCOTT, I'M GOING TO MISS YOU, TOO. I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE STATEMENTS QUITE AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER, I WANT TO PICK ON BEN HERE FOR A SECOND. I REALLY APPRECIATED BEN. I WANT TO SAY FAREWELL TO BEN. GOOD LUCK WITH THE WITH YOUR NEXT STUFF. MY FAVORITE STORY ABOUT BEN WAS ON THE 2023 BOND COMMITTEE. HE WAS THE THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS ON OUR COMMITTEE. IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN A GROUP OF PEOPLE APPLAUD AN ATTORNEY. WE HAD GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT TRAPPED IN ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, AND BEN STOOD UP AND GOT US OUT, AND THE ROOM APPLAUDED FOR HIM WHEN HE CAME AND SAVED US. SO I'M ALWAYS GOING TO REMEMBER THAT. BEN AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. IT'S BEEN YOU KNOW, I SAT NEXT TO YOU ON THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE FOR, FOR A LITTLE BIT TOO. AND SO I'M GOING TO MISS SEEING YOU AROUND AS WELL. FAREWELL TO YOU AND TO SCOTT. WE REALLY ARE GOING TO

MISS YOU GUYS AROUND HERE. >> OKAY. YEAH, OF COURSE IT. >> MR. CITY ATTORNEY.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER RIEMER KIND OF BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. BEN, THIS WILL BE OUR LAST MEETING WITH BENJAMIN SAMPLES. HE'S BEEN MY FIRST ASSISTANT FOR MANY YEARS NOW AND HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS SUPPORTER AND CONFIDANT. HE'S JUST EXERCISED GREAT JUDGMENT FOR THE CITY, HAS PROTECTED US IN SO MANY WAYS, AND REALLY HAS BEEN SOMEONE THAT I TRUST IMPLICITLY TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE WORK AND THE CITY, AND HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB SUPPORTING OUR OFFICE AND SUPPORTING THE ENTIRE CITY. SO, BEN, APPRECIATE OUR TIME WORKING TOGETHER AND WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR NEXT YOUR

NEXT ADVENTURE. >> OKAY. >> YES.

>> OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. RIGHT. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO BEING. THAT'S WHAT WE SAY TO BEING EVERY TIME HE COMES STEPS INTO THE ROOM, WE ALWAYS SAY, HELLO BEN WITH THAT GREAT SMILE. SO AGAIN, JUST REITERATING HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE FOR US. I HAVE BEEN IN A MEETING WHERE YOU'VE HAD TO GET US BACK IN LINE AND KEEP US IN LINE, SO WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEXT VENTURE. YOU KNOW, JUST ALL PRAISES TO YOU. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR WORK. SCOTT. I PERSONALLY HAVE FELT LIKE YOU LIKE ME BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE UP HERE BECAUSE EVERY TIME I PICK THE PHONE UP AND I NEED YOUR SERVICES, IT ALWAYS COMES THROUGH. YOU ALWAYS FIND A WAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST APPRECIATE THAT. AND ALSO CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEXT VENTURE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE THEN I WILL SAY HOW MUCH I ENJOYED ARTS AND AUTOS. IT WAS GOOD TO HAVE IT BACK ON THE SQUARE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE A CARBURETOR

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CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. REALLY GREAT PEOPLE DOING GREAT THINGS HERE. THEN AGAIN SAME. THANK YOU SCOTT. THANK YOU BEN. I CONTINUE TO GIVE MY NEIGHBOR AND NEIGHBORS MAYORS A HARD TIME AS THEY AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO GO WORK FOR THEM. MCKINNEY IS A GREAT CITY THOUGH. I LIKE MAYOR COX, I LIKE THE CITY MANAGER, AND I LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GO AND SET THEM UP FOR SUCCESS. SO TRULY APPRECIATE THAT. AND ALL I ASK FOR IS JUST ONCE I GET THE AIRPORT UP AND RUNNING, HOOK A BROTHER UP. FAM. AND THEN LASTLY I WILL SAY I HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOU CHIEF AND DETROIT POLICE DEPARTMENT. I MEAN IT IS TOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S A TOUGH JOB HAVING TO DO ALL THE THINGS TO KEEP US SAFE AND IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED. AND I AM TRULY GRATEFUL. AND Y'ALL HAVE MY COMPLETE SUPPORT AND WE ARE HERE TO GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE. WELL. SAME WITH THE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE THOSE ARE KEY PRINCIPLES AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAVER IN THOSE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMPROMISE ON THOSE THINGS. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THOSE OCCUPATIONAL HAZARDS ARE OUT THERE. BUT I COULD NOT IMAGINE LIVING ONE DAY WHERE I HAVE A VIDEO CAMERA STRAPPED TO MY CHEST EVERYWHERE I GO. HARD PASS. I'D GET FIRED WITHIN 20 MINUTES. SO THE RESTRAINT Y'ALL HAVE AND THE ABILITY THAT YOUR OFFICERS SHOW AND SO REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF Y'ALL AND THE WORK YOU DO. AND AND WE'LL PROCESS THROUGH THE CHALLENGES.

WE'LL GROW WITH YOU. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN, JUST TO CONCLUDE WHAT WAS A TOUGH WEEK FOR OUR COUNTRY, STAFF RESPONDED QUICKLY. AND TO ADDRESS THE THE REQUEST OF THE FLAGS AT HALF MAST. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT RESPONSE. AND THOSE SENSITIVITIES AS WE AS WE PROCESS THROUGH A CHALLENGING TIME. BUT I HOPE WE WE COME TOGETHER AND WE'RE BETTER FOR IT IN THE FUTURE, AS IS MY MY HOPE AND DESIRE. SO WITH THAT, AT 916

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