Sep 30, 2025 City Council on 2025-09-30 2:00 PM (SPECIAL CALLED)

[WORK SESSION]

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Capital Improvements Advisory Committee. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

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THREE A AUDI 251577. RECEIVE REPORT, WHOLE DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING

THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. ANGIE, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER, HERE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR THE CAC. THIS IS IN FOLLOW UP TO AN ISR YOU ALL RECEIVED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BUT SB 1883 WAS RECENTLY PASSED WITH THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND AMENDED SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS IT RELATES TO THE CAC. SPECIFICALLY, THE CITY OF DENTON HAS BEEN UTILIZING PROVISIONS IN STATE LAW THAT ALLOWED THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ALSO BE THE CAC.

BUT WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS, WE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE HOW WE CONDUCT BUSINESS GOING FORWARD.

SO STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NEW CAC, INCLUDING MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS, TERM LENGTHS AND NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE JUST REAL QUICKLY.

CHAPTER 395 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AUTHORIZES IMPACT FEE COLLECTION FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, AND ROADWAY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. IN ORDER TO ASSESS IMPACT FEES, A CITY MUST FIRST ESTABLISH A CAC. THEIR ROLE IS TO COMMENT ON LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, AND THOSE PROPOSED IMPACT FEES. FURTHERMORE, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OUTLINES COMPOSITION AND MEETING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CAC, INCLUDING THAT THAT BODY BE NOT LESS THAN FIVE MEMBERS, THAT NOT LESS THAN 40% OF THOSE MEMBERS BE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OR BUILDING INDUSTRIES. THAT THOSE MEMBERS MAY NOT BE EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS OF THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY. IT DID PREVIOUSLY ALLOW THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COULD BE UTILIZED AS THE CAC, AND ALSO IF CITIES ASSESSED IMPACT FEES IN THE ETJ, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ETJ IS REQUIRED TO BE ON THE CAC.

SO CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF DENTON HAS IMPOSED IMPACT FEES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SINCE 1998 AND FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS SINCE 2016, AND HAS BEEN UTILIZING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PLUS ONE AD HOC ETJ MEMBER TO SERVE AS THE CAC. THEIR PRIMARY ROLES ARE TO ADVISE AND ASSIST CITY COUNCIL IN ADOPTING LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS. TO FILE SEMIANNUAL REPORTS WITH RESPECT TO THE PROGRESS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, AND ADVISE AND ASSIST IN REGULAR UPDATES TO LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS, IMPROVEMENT PLANS AND IMPACT FEES. WITH RESPECT TO CHANGES THAT RECENTLY WENT INTO EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, THERE ARE SEVERAL KEY AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT ARE NECESSITATING THIS CONVERSATION. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE STATE STATUTE HAS REMOVED LANGUAGE THAT PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED THE USE

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SEEKING SOME GUIDANCE IN THE CREATION OF THIS NEW COMMITTEE. >> OKAY, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU. ANGIE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT LAST SLIDE?

>> YES. >> I SUPPORT THE CREATING A NEW COMMITTEE. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TO BASICALLY. RIGHT. I LIKE THE IDEA TO REQUIRE RESUME. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.

REGARDLESS OF OF THE REASON THAT WE'RE ASKING. IT HELPS ME TO ASSESS WHO WE'RE LOOKING AT.

APPOINTING SEVEN MEMBERS. I THINK THAT MAKES IT MORE SIMPLE THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD ASSUME, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OR, YOU KNOW, NOMINATING ONE. I DO LIKE THE FOUR YEAR TERM LENGTHS, KNOWING THAT THIS GROUP HAS SORT OF A LONG TERM PROJECT THEY'RE WORKING ON. SO WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME AND THEN THEY'RE OFF BY THE TIME IT COMES UP AGAIN. SO I THINK THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IS HELPFUL. YOU KNOW, MAX, 12 YEARS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT. BUT FOR WHAT THIS PARTICULAR THING IS, I THINK THE FOUR YEAR TERM LINKS SOUNDS GOOD FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE. AND OF COURSE, I DO AGREE WITH THE STAGGERING TERMS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH TURNOVER ALL

AT THE SAME TIME. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE THEN DISTRICT SIX.

>> I AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAID, BUT ALSO MY QUESTION IS, IS THE REQUIREMENTS THAT A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THE PSI A BE REPRESENTATIVES OF AND YOU'RE GIVING EACH DISTRICT AT LARGE ONE VOTE FROM THEIR FROM THEIR AREAS? ARE YOU ALL YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE 50%? BECAUSE I HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND, REAL ESTATE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOUR OF THEM CAN BE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. I MEAN, DO YOU ALL WANT US TO GIVE YOU SOMEBODY THAT'S IN ONE OF THESE AREAS, ONE OF THESE INDUSTRIES, AND MAYBE A RANDOM PERSON, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK OUT? SURE. WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO THERE IS A MINIMUM NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A MAXIMUM, BUT IN PART OF WHY STAFF IS SUGGESTING REQUIRING THAT RESUME IS TO ASSIST IN MONITORING THE COMPLIANCE FOR THAT MINIMUM 50%. SO IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY IN MIND AND WE WERE ALREADY AT 50%, ONE MORE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HURT US. BUT IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY IN MIND AND WE MAYBE WEREN'T AT THAT 50%, STAFF WOULD MAYBE SUGGEST LOOKING AT SOMEBODY WHO DOES MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MEETING OUR BOARD OBLIGATIONS.

>> AND. I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU SAY THIS, THIS IS AN AT-LARGE DOES SAY SOMETHING WHERE IT SAYS THIS IS AT LARGE POSITION, SO THEY CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE AROUND THE CITY. OKAY.

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. >> COUNCIL PERSON CHESTER, I FIRST WANT TO THANK YOU. I MEAN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND I THINK YOU'VE LAID OUT VERY HELPFUL PARAMETERS AND SUGGESTIONS. I CONCUR WITH BOTH OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR STATEMENTS. I APPRECIATE THAT. IS THERE A SUGGESTION AS TO HOW TO FIRST DEAL WITH IF YOU GET SEVEN NOMINATIONS AND HYPOTHETICALLY, NONE OF THEM ARE PART OF THE REQUIRED PERCENTAGE? AND SECONDLY, IS THERE ANY SUGGESTION AS TO HOW THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ETJ IS SELECTED THAT WE NOMINATE? EACH COUNCIL PERSON NOMINATES AND WE VOTE? I'M JUST ASKING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN CONTEMPLATED OR NOT. THANK YOU.

>> SURE. AS FAR AS THE ETJ MEMBER AND HOW THAT GETS DECIDED, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED NECESSARILY THAT THAT DETAIL FINDING SOMEBODY WOULD BE FIRST AND FOREMOST. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS, IS A DIFFICULT BOARD TO SORT OF ASSEMBLE AND COMPOSE. AND RELATED TO THAT, I THINK IF WE WERE SEEING CONSISTENTLY THAT WE WEREN'T MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR IF WE WEREN'T AT THAT THRESHOLD THAT WE HAD INDIVIDUALS LOOKING TO TO SERVE THE CITY IN SOME CAPACITY, WE COULD MAYBE ASSIST IN FINDING OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS THAT COULD SERVE ON, BUT WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE FINDING THOSE THREE KEY INDUSTRY

REPRESENTATIVES TO, TO HELP US MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS. >> OKAY. SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THE ASK IS THAT WE ALL HAVE A MIND TOWARDS WHAT TO TO MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN IF WE'RE LOPSIDED ONE WAY YOU'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN DETERMINE HOW WE DECIDE WHO FALLS OFF AND WHO MIGHT STEP ON IN THAT PLACE.

THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. >> YES. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK

YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR THEN DISTRICT TWO.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE THE REQUIREMENT. LET ME FIND IT HERE. THE REQUIREMENT REPRESENTATIVES OF THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OR BUILDING INDUSTRIES. CAN IT BE RETIRED

PEOPLE FROM THAT INDUSTRY? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO

OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT? >> AND I'LL SAY THAT'S A RARE

GREAT QUESTION FROM GO AHEAD. >> THANKS. >> WE CAN LOOK INTO IT. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD I THINK THAT WOULD QUALIFY IF THEY HAVE THAT EXPERTISE. YEAH. OKAY.

>> I'M SORRY I DIDN'T. I WAS BEING DISTRACTED BY HIS MAJESTY OVER THERE. PARDON ME.

>> I SAID WE'LL LOOK INTO IT FURTHER. BUT I WOULD THINK LOOKING AT THIS, YES, THEY WOULD STILL QUALIFY IF THEY WERE RETIRED. AS LONG AS THEY HAD THAT EXPERTISE.

>> OKAY, OKAY. AND. AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THESE MEMBERS

BE BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DENTON. DID I OVERLOOK THAT. >> TO TO BE ON THE BOARD? YOU DO HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DENTON. THE ONLY EXCEPTION WOULD BE THAT ONE AD

HOC ETJ MEMBER BECAUSE WE ASSESS IMPACT FEES THERE. >> BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT, AND I

THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED. >> OKAY, TAKE NOTE. >> TWO QUESTIONS.

>> GOT YOU DOWN, REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO, THEN FIVE. >> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE BECAUSE I HAD SIMILAR QUESTIONS. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE LOOSE IN SOME OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ON TERMS OF HOW WE'RE COVERING REQUIREMENTS, BUT AS THIS IS BEING THROWN AT US STATUTORILY.

YOU KNOW, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. DOES A RETIRED PERSON COUNT? WHAT IS WHAT? A GENERAL GENERALLY, ARE WE LOOKING AT WORK EXPERIENCE IN THOSE AREAS? IS THAT HOW WE'RE DEFINING THIS? AND THE REASON I ASK THAT IS, IS, IS NOT FOR SOMEONE THAT'S BOOTSTRAPPED AND SELF-EDUCATED, BUT MORE WE HAVE A LOT OF FACULTY THAT ARE IN THESE AREAS, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY PRACTICE IN THOSE AREAS. DOES THAT I MEAN, HOW DO WE DEFINE THE EXPERTISE FOR THOSE THREE

AREAS? IT'S SIMILAR TO THE RETIRED. >> IT IS SIMILAR. I MAY ALSO LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR ASSISTANCE. I KNOW THE STATE STATUTE IS IS RELATIVELY OPEN ENDED, AND THAT IT JUST DOES STATE THESE THREE INDUSTRIES THAT THEY NEED TO BE REPRESENTED, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT AREA OF EXPERTISE. BUT I WOULD I'LL

DEFER THAT. >> NO, I THINK THAT'S FAIR. I THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT WILL BE IMPLEMENTING I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF INTERPRETATION, MAYBE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS, TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY DONE AND

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IMPLEMENT IT. >> AND I'M JUST CONFIRMING THE ETJ MEMBER IS NON-VOTING. IT'S

AN EIGHTH MEMBER OR IT IS PART OF THE SEVEN. >> THEY THEY ARE PART OF THE SEVEN. WE ARE REQUIRED TO TO HAVE THEM AND HAVE THEM BE A VOTING MEMBER, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE CHARGE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES IN THE ETJ.

>> SO IN A HYPOTHETICAL THAT SIX MEMBERS THAT HAD ALREADY GOTTEN IN WERE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY MET THE OTHER CHARACTERISTICS, IF YOU CAME INTO IT AS A COUNCIL PERSON AND AND YOUR AND THE ETJ PERSON STEPPED DOWN, YOU WOULD BE FORCED TO FIND AN ETJ PERSON.

IN THAT HYPOTHETICAL, IF SIX MEMBERS WERE RESIDENTS. >> I THINK THE WAY WE HAVE THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IS THERE'D BE SEVEN AT LARGE MEMBERS THAT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL COULD REPRESENT, BUT THERE ISN'T A SPECIFICATION FOR THAT ETJ MEMBER IS WHO CAN OR CAN'T

APPOINT IT. >> OR THE BODY THEN WOULD BE FORCED TO TAKE THAT SEVENTH

MEMBER. AS AN ETJ MEMBER. >> WE WOULD NEED TO FIND AN ETJ MEMBER TO FULFILL THOSE

REQUIREMENTS. >> I'M JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND WHERE WHERE THE LINES ARE I IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO US FOR GUIDANCE. I'M I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I HEAR MY MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS IN THE RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY WE THINK CAPITAL PROJECTS NEED THE, THE THE LONGER TERMS. BUT I THINK IT I PERSONALLY JUST DON'T DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK IT SHOULD LINE UP WITH ALL OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO I'M FINE WITH ONE, TWO, THREE AND FIVE. I THINK WE SHOULD ALIGN OUR, OUR, OUR TERM SIZES WITH OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

>> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. >> I'LL PICK UP RIGHT WHERE DOCTOR BECK LEFT OFF. I DIDN'T SEE IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IN STATE LAW. HOW DID WE GET TO

A MAX OF THREE TERMS? >> THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE HAVE OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMITTEES STRUCTURED AS A MAXIMUM OF THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS. SO IT WAS SUGGESTED WE INCORPORATE IT HERE AS WELL. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY STATE LAW REQUIRED.

>> IT'S NOT COMING TO MIND RIGHT NOW. WHAT OTHER WHAT OTHER. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO. WHAT OTHER CITIZEN BOARD HAS FOUR YEAR TERMS TO SERVE A MAXIMUM OF

THREE TERMS. >> THE PUB THE PUBLIC UTILITY BOARD HAS A HAS A FOUR YEAR

TERM AND WITH A MAXIMUM OF THREE. >> MAX OF THREE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING ALONG WITH PB OKAY. YES OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH I APPRECIATE THAT. MY OTHER QUESTION HAS THERE WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION GIVEN TO THE IDEA OF MAYBE STAFF APPOINTING THE ETJ MEMBER? THAT WAY WE ALL GET SOMEONE AND THEN STAFF GETS THE ETJ MEMBER. AND THE IDEA OBVIOUSLY BEING WE ALL APPOINT PEOPLE FROM WITHIN THE CITY, THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT.

>> THAT WAS NOT DISCUSSED. NO, BUT WE CAN GO BACK AND. >> I'D LOVE TO HEAR IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT THAT. I THINK IT IT MAKES IT SIMPLER. IT MAKES IT CLEANER. SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR IF ANYONE WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY BE MY PREFERENCE IF THE ETJ MEMBER POSSIBLY WOULD JUST COME FROM COME FROM STAFF. ALSO, THE IDEA BEING GIVEN THE MEMBERS, GIVEN THE OTHER STATUTORY MEMBERS STAFF WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE LACKING IN TERMS OF WHAT INDUSTRY THEY COME FROM. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SINCE YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT THE RESUMES AND TOTALITY, IT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER IN THAT RESPECT. THANK

YOU. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. REPRESENTATIVE

DISTRICT ONE. >> YES. SPEAKING ON THAT, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO. THE THE RESUMES. AND FOR EACH ONE OF THESE IS ARE THESE JUST THE THREE THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING. WAS THAT JUST THE THREE THAT WERE GOING TO BE.

>> THOSE ARE THE THREE REQUIRED ONES THAT WE NEED TO REPRESENT. >> YES.

>> OKAY. SO WE GET A FEW PEOPLE THAT PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION AND THEY'RE ALL REAL ESTATE PEOPLE. WE ONLY NEED ONE OF THEM. WHAT HAVE YOU ALL WORKED UP THE RUBRIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO DETERMINE WHICH ONE IS MOST MORE QUALIFIED? WHAT DO YOU ALL KIND OF GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, OR HAVE YOU ALL EVEN GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET? I DON'T EVEN THINK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS

PERSON TO BE THE ONE. HAVE YOU DONE THAT YET? >> I THINK I THINK IF ALL SO, THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY THERE'S THE 50% REQUIREMENT THAT REPRESENTATIVES BE OF THOSE THREE INDUSTRIES AT AT LARGE, BUT IT DOESN'T STIPULATE THAT YOU MUST HAVE ONE REAL ESTATE,

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ONLY HAVE ONE REAL ESTATE, ONE DEVELOPMENT, ONE BUILDING. >> OR TWO OF THIS OR TWO OF ONE

OF THESE. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> RESPONDING TO COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE'S IDEA. KNEE JERK. I LIKE THE IDEA. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DOES THAT PUT STAFF IN A REALLY STRANGE POSITION TO HAVE TO PUT FORWARD NOMINEES FOR ETJ

SLOT? AND. >> WE PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT FORWARD AN ETJ MEMBER, SO WE'VE

DONE IT BEFORE. OKAY. IT'S NOT OUT OF IT'S NOT UNUSUAL. >> OKAY. EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD

MAKE THE BODY EIGHT AND I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT, I THINK. >> AND I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN THE BACKUP DOES SAY SEVEN PLUS ONE. SO THE ETJ MEMBER IS IN ADDITION TO THE SEVEN NOMINATED BY COUNCIL. BUT AND IT IS A VOTING MEMBER OKAY.

>> SO IT WOULD BE EIGHT. OKAY. I'M GOOD WITH WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE SAID THEN.

>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> I JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY BECAUSE WE BOUNCED. I'M JUST GOING TO STATE THAT IT SAYS EIGHT MEMBERS, ONE OF WHICH IS ONLY ONE OF WHICH IS AN ETJ MEMBER, OR MORE THAN ONE OF WHICH IS AN ETJ MEMBER, IS THE PROPOSAL. WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER THAT.

>> IT WOULD BE THE SEVEN AT LARGE MEMBERS, AND THAT THAT IS THE STANDING BODY. AND THEN ONE

AD HOC ETJ MEMBER FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT MEMBERS. >> RIGHT. SECTION THREE ON PAGE TWO OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, ATTACHMENT HAS THE MAKEUP. SO IT'S SEVEN MEMBERS RESIDING IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON. SO ALL EIGHT MEMBERS MAKE UP THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY

COMMITTEE. >> OKAY. SO SO THANK YOU THAT THAT'S WHAT I READ BEFORE. I'M ASSUMING THEN QUORUM IS FOR OR AND. I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SUGGESTION. I CAN GO EITHER WAY. EITHER US NOMINATING OR OR STAFF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT, NOT SEVEN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

>> OKAY, ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR. >> I'M HAPPY WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AS AS IT SITS, I'M OPPOSED TO THE STAFF MAKING THE THE ETJ RECOMMENDATION. AS FAR AS MAKING IT, MAKING THAT PERSON'S NAME KNOWN TO A COUNCIL MEMBER. I'D BE GREAT WITH THAT. BUT. BUT I THINK THIS IS THIS SHOULD BE A COUNCIL APPOINTMENT.

>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? FORGIVE ME IF I MISSED IT, BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS SIMPLY IS THE

IS THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT STIPULATED IN HERE? >> YES.

>> AND IS IT ONE YEAR LIKE ALL THE OTHERS? >> I'M GOING TO LET CHRISTY.

>> FOGEL. >> ANSWER THAT. >> CHRISTY FOGEL CHIEF OF STAFF.

SO OUR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT IS JUST AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION. THERE'S NOT A PREVIOUS RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR A TERM. IT'S JUST A RESIDENT AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION

APPOINTMENT. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BE 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. >> YEAH. THAT'S YEAH, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST TWO YEARS IN DENTON BEFORE YOU START MAKING DECISIONS ON YOU SHOULD AT LEAST GET HERE, HAVE LUNCH. VISIT A COFFEE SHOP, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME SOMETHING. SO YEAH, I JUST PUT FORWARD THAT THAT THAT IN MY MIND IT'S TWO YEARS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE STIPULATED.

AND THEN. I WOULD THINK FOR THIS INITIAL PHASE JUST TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING, IF WE CURRENTLY HAVE A ETJ PERSON SERVING WITH THE I WOULD JUST THINK THEY JUST CARRY OVER, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO RECREATE THE WILL. I THINK WE WOULD JUST THAT PERSON CARRIES OVER WITH THE NEW GROUP AND THEN WHEN IT ROLLS AROUND THAT THEIR TERM WOULD EXPIRE, THEN YOU CAN REAPPOINT OR DO SOMETHING THERE. BUT IS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON P AND Z

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IF THEY'RE IN ETJ. >> DO THAT. YEAH. >> I THINK THAT FIXES IT. BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO COME BACK WITH KIND OF A CONDENSED VERSION AND WE'LL WHITTLE IT AND FINALIZE IT. BUT YEAH. YEAH. IS THERE YOU HAVE

SOMETHING NEW? >> I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON YOUR QUESTION.

>> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALWAYS BE A BACK AND FORTH. I DON'T. >> GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH

YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> MY QUESTION IS, IN LIGHT OF THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, IS THIS A NEW BODY? BECAUSE IT'S IT'S COMPLETELY NEW. SO PROCEDURALLY, MUST WE NOT APPOINT EVERYONE NEW?

>> I BELIEVE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO APPOINT ALL OF THE NEW MEMBERS. HOWEVER, WE CAN BRING THE EXISTING ETJ MEMBER THAT CURRENTLY SERVES ON OUR CAC AS THE NEW ETJ MEMBER ON THE NEW

CAC BOARD. >> THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

FIVE. >> WHAT'S THE. WHAT'S THE COUNT FOR SUPPORT? WERE WE WAS THERE ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF BRINGING THE ETJ MEMBER OR NOT? I'M SORRY, I WASN'T

DOING THE COUNT. THAT'S WHY. >> I WASN'T EITHER. OH, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO ALL COME BACK. AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MACHINATIONS, SO I JUST THOUGHT IT'D ALL COME BACK

AND THEN WE WHITTLE IT DOWN FROM THERE. BUT YOUR THOUGHTS? >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION IF THERE WAS A PREFERENCE OR NOT ON THE THE ETJ MEMBER, I THINK I HAD A FEW WHO WERE IN SUPPORT OF OF OF STAFF, BUT AT LEAST ONE WHO WAS NOT, AND THEN THE EXISTING ETJ MEMBER WAS ALSO AN OPTION. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS THERE. IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER CLARITY, OR WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND CONTINUE TO REFINE THE ORDINANCE.

>> GOT IT. SO YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I'D LOVE TO HAVE CLARITY.

NOW, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON IN LETTING STAFF HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. CAN WE JUST DECIDE NOW

MAKE THEIR JOB A LITTLE SIMPLER? >> THE FLOOR IS OPEN. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO.

>> THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ISSUE IS STAFF, NOT STAFF. IS IS THE QUESTION I HEARD AND I WILL TO GET OFF THE FENCE. I WILL SIDE WITH COUNCILOR HOLLAND AND MAKE IT A COUNCIL

DECISION. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. >> LET'S MAKE THIS A COUNCIL

DECISION. THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. >> WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT, I JUST I JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.

SO AGAIN IT'S GOING TO COME BACK IS MY FEEL. SO IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAS SOMETHING ELSE THEY WANT TO ADD, THEN BY ALL MEANS. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR.

>> COUNCIL DECISION. AND I'M AND I LIKE THE TWO YEAR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT. >> ONE I APPRECIATE THE TWO YEAR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. AND I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT WE BRING ON SOMEONE THAT'S AT LEAST 21 YEARS OLD. I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT AN 18 YEAR OLD CAN, YOU KNOW, BRING TO THE TABLE. UNLESS THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE TRENCHES IN HIGH SCHOOL WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS. YOU KNOW, WITH THE WAY THAT SCHOOLING IS BEING MODERNIZED NOW, THAT COULD HAPPEN. BUT I WOULD PREFER THAT SOMEONE THAT'S OF A MORE MATURE AGE AND EXPERIENCE BE IN THIS

POSITION. >> THANK YOU. GOOD POINT. I WOULD I WOULD AGREE TO BUMP IT

UP. THAT'S A FAIR POINT. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. >> I CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BIRD'S STATEMENTS REGARDING THE TWO YEAR REQUIREMENT IN 21. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I'LL CONCUR AS WELL. ON THE ON THE TWO YEARS AND 21, AND I'M PRETTY INDIFFERENT ON WHO SELECTS THE ETJ. SO I'M HAPPY TO GO WITH WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS

THE MAJORITY RIGHT NOW ON THAT REGARDING WHO WOULD NOMINATE. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE?

>> YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THE TWO YEARS AS IN TERMS OF 18 YEARS OLD, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT EXCEPT. IN THIS COUNTRY, WE SEND 18 YEAR OLDS TO GIVE THEIR LIFE FOR THE REST OF US. WHO AM I TO TELL AN 18 YEAR OLD THEY CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY PROCESS IF THEY

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RULES AND ROADBLOCKS TO LOCK THEM OUT OF PROCESS. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO.

>> THANK YOU. I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE 21 OR THE TWO YEAR NO TO THOSE. I'D PREFER 18 AND NORMAL

RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT?

>> I THINK I'VE WEIGHED IN ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE 21 AND I LIKE 21. OKAY.

>> GOT IT. SO DOES THAT GIVE YOU SOME BUILDING BLOCKS? >> YES, SIR.

>> AWESOME. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU THAT WE NEED TO TRUE UP? >> NO, I THINK WE'RE SET.

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the City of Denton utility billing programs. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT JOB. OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE THAT TAKES US TO ITEM THREE B. I'D 251363 RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION.

GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CITY OF DENTON UTILITY BILLING PROGRAMS.

>> MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS KRISTA FOSTER, CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER. AND THIS AFTERNOON, I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT A STUDY THAT WE DID AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THAT STUDY. SO COUNCIL APPROVED FUNDING FOR US TO DO AN UPDATED REVIEW OF OUR BILLING AND COLLECTIONS PROCESSES SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE INDUSTRY AND CONSIDER OR CONTINUE OUR HISTORY OF EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TODAY IS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW ON THE BENCHMARKING TRENDS AND COMPARISON OF DENTON'S PERFORMANCE TO THE INDUSTRY AND THE HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE IN A COUPLE OF THOSE AREAS. THEN WE'RE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT BENCHMARK FINDINGS FOR COMMERCIAL DEPOSITS, AS WELL AS STAFF AND CONSULTANT RECOMMENDATIONS. AND WE WILL BE DOING THE SAME FOR BOTH PAY AGREEMENTS AND LEAK ADJUSTMENTS. WE'LL GO OVER A QUICK SUMMARY AND THEN WE'LL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. SO FIRST, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BENCHMARKING, WE WERE COMPARED TO 22 DIFFERENT TEXAS UTILITIES, AS WELL AS OVER 100 TOTAL UTILITIES ACROSS THE US. OUR PERFORMANCE IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN THE INDUSTRY. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM SECTION, GRAPHS ARE PERFORMANCE OVER TIME IS VERY CONSISTENT AT THOSE LEVELS.

WITH THE IRREGULARITIES DURING THE PANDEMIC. SO WHEN LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL DEPOSITS, WHAT WE FOUND DURING THE BENCHMARKING RESULTS IS WE ARE CONSISTENT IN THE WAY THAT WE CALCULATE DEPOSITS. WE ARE CONSISTENT IN APPLICATION OF DEPOSIT INTEREST. WHEN THOSE DEPOSITS ARE REFUNDED. HOWEVER, THEY FOUND THAT OUR RETENTION PERIOD IS NOT ALIGNED WITH OTHER CITIES.

MOST OF THE CITIES RETURN WITHIN 1 TO 2 YEARS OF GOOD PAYMENT HISTORY. I BELIEVE THERE WERE 58% OF THOSE THAT WERE LOOKED AT REFUNDED AT AN AVERAGE OF 21 MONTHS. THEN CURRENT ORDINANCE REQUIRES MANUAL SCREENING OF EVERY DEPOSIT REFUND COSTING, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE DOZEN HOURS A MONTH CURRENTLY. SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE KEEP RESIDENTIAL REFUNDS AS THEY ARE TODAY, WHICH IS REFUNDED AT 12 MONTHS OF GOOD PAYMENT HISTORY THAT WE REFUND COMMERCIAL DEPOSITS AT 24 MONTHS, AND THAT THE QUALIFICATIONS WOULD NOW BE IF THAT CUSTOMER HAS AN A CREDIT RATING INTERNALLY, NO DISCONNECTIONS, NO METER TAMPERING, AND THEIR ACCOUNT IS CURRENT AT THE TIME OF REVIEW, THEN WE WOULD REFUND THOSE DEPOSITS. THEN PAY ARRANGEMENTS. WHAT WE FOUND IS THE WAY THAT WE CALCULATE DATES IS ARBITRARY ISH, MEANING THAT WE HAVE TO MANUALLY CALCULATE THEM. SO IT OPENS UP OPPORTUNITY FOR HUMAN ERRORS. AND IT'S TIME CONSUMING. SO THE OTHER THING IS THAT OUR ELIGIBILITY AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF IT IS VERY RESTRICTIVE. WE LOOK AT IT TO SAY ORDINANCE STATES THAT CUSTOMER CAN HAVE ONE ARRANGEMENT EVERY SIX MONTHS. AND THEN ANY DEVIATION TO THAT SHOULD GO BEFORE COUNCIL. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO MOVE THE DUE DATE TO THE CURRENT BILL DUE DATE, SO THAT ANY INSTALLMENT WOULD BE DUE AT THE DATE OF YOUR NORMAL BILL. AND THEN WE WOULD REMOVE THE RESTRICTION ON THE NUMBER OF ARRANGEMENTS. AND INSTEAD OF LIMITING THE NUMBER OF ARRANGEMENTS, MAKE IT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR COMPLETION OF YOUR ARRANGEMENTS SUCCESSFULLY. SO INSTEAD OF SAYING YOU CAN HAVE TWO ARRANGEMENTS A YEAR, WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT EVERY MONTH IF THAT'S NECESSARY FOR YOU TO MEET YOUR PAY DATE, BUT YOU

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ALLOW DISCRETION TO HEAD OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. AGAIN, ENSURE THAT THERE IS COUNCIL REVIEW PRIOR TO ANY FORMALIZED PROGRAM CHANGES. ADD PROVISIONING FOR METERING AND INCLUDE A GRACE PERIOD FOR SPRINKLER AND POOL LEAKS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE LAST 24 MONTHS, AS LONG AS THEY FALL WITHIN THE 60 DAY DEADLINE AND MEET ALL OTHER PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. AND ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING ARE THINGS THAT ARE COMING OUT FROM THE CONSULTANT AND FROM CUSTOMER SERVICE. HOWEVER, THESE THINGS MAY CHANGE OR LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT AS WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW THEM WITH LEGAL. HERE AT ALL. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, IN SUMMARY, WE COMPARE VERY FAVORABLY TO OTHER MUNICIPALS IN THE WAY THAT WE CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS PROCESSES.

AND OUR COLLECTION AND BAD DEBT MANAGEMENT ARE ALSO HIGHLY COMPETITIVE WITH THE INDUSTRY.

AND AGAIN, SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDED POLICY CHANGES TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO CUSTOMER NEEDS AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMERCIAL DEPOSITS, PAY

AGREEMENTS AND ADJUSTMENTS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM

DISTRICT SIX. >> REPRESENTATIVE JESTER NICE TO SEE YOU AND GREAT JOB. I REALLY APPRECIATE AND I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. ALL OF THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THE COMPARABLES, IT'S SO HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT WE LIKE OR DON'T LIKE OR WHAT SEEMS TO WORK OR NOT WORK FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. AND SO I FOUND THAT CHART INCREDIBLY INTERESTING AS WELL AS HELPFUL. BUT I THINK THAT THAT WAS WORTH DOING. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC TO OUR CITIZENS. AND SO I THINK IT WAS WORTH THE INVESTMENT TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION. I AM MY DIRECTION IS I AM IN FAVOR OF ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. MY ONLY QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH THE 100,000 CAP ON COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. I JUST TELL ME

WHAT THAT MEANS. >> SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A LEAK, 100,000 GALLONS OF EXCESS WATER OVER WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY USE IS ABOUT A QUARTER OF A WATER TOWER. SO THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING IN EXCESS OF

THAT WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF LEAK IS EXCEPTIONALLY UNCOMMON. >> GREAT. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR THEN FIVE.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK I'M SURPRISED THAT. THAT THAT COMMERCIAL REFUNDS HAPPEN AT 24 MONTHS AND RESIDENTIAL AT 12. IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE EXACTLY THE INVERSE.

>> SO IF YOU LOOK AT STATISTICS FROM THE US BUREAU OF LABOR, IT INDICATES THAT FINANCIAL STABILITY AND VIABILITY FOR COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS IS OR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES IS ABOUT TWO YEARS. IF YOU LOOK AT STATISTICS WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON, A NEW COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT, THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF THOSE ACCOUNTS IS ABOUT TWO YEARS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT

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SO IT WOULD HELP TO PROTECT RATEPAYERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT LEVEL OF SECURITY.

>> THAT JUST SURPRISED ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE THE ARRANGEMENT YOU MENTIONED WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A HAVE AN ODD PAY SCHEDULE OR SOMETHING, DOES THAT DOES THAT DATE DO ACTUALLY APPEAR ON

THEIR BILL? >> YES. THE DUE DATE OF THEIR BILL IS ON THE BILL CURRENTLY WITH THE WAY THAT THE PAY ADJUSTMENT OR PAY AGREEMENTS ARE SET UP, THE CUSTOMER WOULD HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT DATE. BUT GOING FORWARD, IF WE TAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT WOULD BE THE DATE THAT IS ON THEIR BILL. SO IT WILL SAY THAT THEY HAVE AN INSTALLMENT AND THEY WOULD

KNOW WHAT DATE THAT'S. >> I SEE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. AS FAR AS THE LEAK, THE 60 DAYS IS THAT WITHIN 60 DAYS WITHIN THE REPAIR OF THE LEAK, THE NOTICING, THE LEAK, THE NOTE

NOTIFYING THE CITY WHAT, 60 DAYS? >> WITHIN THE WAY ORDINANCE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO REPAIR THE LEAK FROM IDENTIFICATION AND 30 DAYS TO FILE THEIR PAPERWORK TO SUBMIT FOR LEAK ADJUSTMENT. IN THE PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE THE SAME 30 DAYS TO REPAIR THE LEAK BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE LEAK ONGOING, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE 60

DAYS AFTER THAT REPAIR TO SUBMIT THEIR PAPERWORK. >> 60 DAYS AFTER THE CORRECT.

OKAY, OKAY. IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THAT AN ALARM AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ALARM MEANS BUT A PHONE CALL I DON'T MEAN A BELL, JUST A PHONE CALL OR SOMETHING. HEY, BOB, YOU SEEM TO BE USING A TON OF WATER. YOU MIGHT HAVE A LEAK IN THE POOL OR THE SPRINKLER OR

ELSEWHERE. >> SO AS WE MOVE TOWARD AMI METERING, THEN CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET UP THEIR OWN ALERTS TO SAY, IF I GO OVER X AMOUNT IN A DAY, I WANT TO KNOW UNDER THE CURRENT PROCESS WITH A STANDARD METER, THOSE METERS ARE READ ONCE A MONTH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE METER AND CAPTURE THE READ.

I SEE, SO WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THAT BILL IS ALREADY READY TO BE PRODUCED.

>> IS AM I ANOTHER TERM FOR SMART METER? >> YES, I AM SORRY.

>> YES, I LIKE IT. I LIKE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. GOOD. GOOD REPORT.

>> GOOD. MAYOR PRO TEM AND THEN DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE.

>> WHILE WE'RE ON THE AMI METERING, CAN YOU REMIND US SORT OF WHEN WE EXPECT ALL THAT TO BE IMPLEMENTED OR COMPLETED, PERHAPS. I KNOW I'VE HEARD IT. I FORGOT.

>> WHAT TO SAY, I MEAN. >> STEPHEN GAY, GENERAL MANAGER, WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS, MAYOR PRO TEM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RUNNING THAT CONTRACT THROUGH A PUB AND CITY COUNCIL AS WE SPEAK. SO BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH THE VENDOR, AND WE SHOULD START ROLLING OUT THAT SOLUTION IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2026.

>> OKAY. AND DO WE ANTICIPATE IT WOULD BE COMPLETED BY END OF 2026 OR.

>> IT'S A THREE YEAR WE'RE PHASING IN THREE YEARS. WE HAVE 48,000 SERVICE CONNECTIONS

ROUGHLY THAT WE NEED TO RETROFIT. >> OKAY. SO BY 2030 THE WHOLE CITY SHOULD BE DONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND ON NOT YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH I SUPPORT ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.

>> JUST ONE SECOND I GOT TO COME BACK. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE, THEN ONE.

>> SHALL I YIELD ONE QUESTION TO MY FRIEND FROM DISTRICT FOUR? >> REAL QUICK. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

>> WHAT IS ARMY STAND FOR? >> ADVANCED METERING SYSTEM, AUTOMATED METERING SYSTEM. OH,

INFRASTRUCTURE. >> AUTOMATED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> THERE YOU GO. AND YOU CAN SEE I'M ALSO VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO PROBLEM SIR. SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION. THE THE GRAPH IN COMPARISONS. THE BACKUP. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO MY QUESTION IS CURRENTLY IF A PERSON HAS. IF THEY VIOLATE A THIRD AGREEMENT IN ONE YEAR, WHAT HAPPENS.

>> SO IT WOULD BE ON THE VIOLATION OF THE SECOND AGREEMENT. WE WOULD PLACE AN ALERT, YES, AN ALERT ON THAT ACCOUNT AND INFORM THE CUSTOMER THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE

UNTIL A YEAR FROM THAT DATE. >> OKAY. >> MISS CITY MANAGER, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. THE CITY OF DENTON HAS DISABILITY SHORT TERM, LONG TERM DISABILITY, RIGHT? YES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR SHORT TERM DISABILITY TO KICK IN?

>> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT I DON'T KNOW, DOES CHRISTINA CASSEY KNOW? 12 MONTHS, 12 WEEKS? I

DIDN'T THINK IT WAS. >> 12 WEEKS. >> 12 WEEKS.

>> BEFORE IT KICKS IN, RIGHT? >> KICKS IN AT 12 WEEKS. >> AND THAT'S THREE MONTHS.

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WAIT. >> COME UP HERE. COME UP HERE. CASSEY.

>> COME ON. YOU'RE THE NEXT CONTESTANT. THANK YOU. >> LONG TERM KICKS IN AT 12 WEEKS. YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SHORT TERM IF YOU ELECT IT AFTER TWO WEEKS.

>> TWO WEEKS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY EMPLOYERS, INCLUDING MY OWN, WHERE SHORT TERM DOESN'T KICK IN FOR SIX WEEKS OR EIGHT WEEKS. AND THEN OF COURSE, LONG TERM KICKS IN ANYTHING AFTER SIX MONTHS. SO MY CONCERN IS IN THE HEIGHT OF THE SUMMERTIME. SUMMERS IN TEXAS ARE NOT ONLY GETTING HOTTER, BUT THEY'RE ALSO LASTING LONGER IN TERMS OF DURATION OF TIME. I WONDER IF WE COULD PROVIDE PERHAPS A

LITTLE MORE RELIEF AND OFFER ANOTHER MONTH. >> SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR DEPARTMENT HEAD DISCRETION IS IF WE SEE AN EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THAT, WE CAN REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION AND BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CUSTOMER, WHERE AS LONG AS THOSE THINGS ARE HARD CODED INTO THE CITY

ORDINANCE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DISCRETION TO DO SO. >> THAT WOULD NOT THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE DEPARTMENT DISCRETION. THAT WOULDN'T BE CORRECT. COUNCIL REVIEW. RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. >> YEAH. AND CHRIS IS RIGHT. I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU GET. I MEAN, I'LL GET CALLS AND WE'LL TRY TO WORK WITH SOMEONE.

>> I HAVE CALLED YOU ABOUT PEOPLE. >> BEFORE AND AND WE WORK WITH THEM AND WE DO IT OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT INFORMATION. AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SAYING WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE THIS SO IT MEETS THOSE.

>> SO WHEN YOU MAKE THOSE JUDGMENT CALLS WE'RE FOLLOWING THE POLICY.

>> YES. AND AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP PEOPLE WHO MAY BE GOING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME AND THOSE OTHER THINGS, GIVING THEM THE TIME THEY NEED. AND EACH EACH SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. ABSOLUTELY, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO GIVING THAT DISCRETION, I ASSURE YOU DEPARTMENT HEADS AND STAFF WILL MAKE GOOD DECISIONS THAT ARE MORE FORWARD THINKING TOWARDS THE CUSTOMER AND NOT JUST SAYING, SHOW ME THE MONEY.

>> MEETING COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL GET LESS CALLS. >> HOPEFULLY SO.

>> AND THEN HAVE TO CALL THE CITY MANAGER LAST TIME. >> HOPEFULLY SO.

>> AND LAST QUESTION IS. SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH THESE THESE CHANGES, HOW MUCH TIME ARE WE CUT DOWN IN TERMS OF YOUR STAFF TIME TO HANDLE THESE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. IS

THIS. >> IN TERMS OF PAY AGREEMENTS? >> NO, I MEAN JUST OVERALL HOW

MUCH HOW MUCH EASIER IS THIS GOING TO MAKE FOR YOUR STAFF. >> SO IN TERMS OF STAFF TIME, UPDATING THE ORDINANCE FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEPOSITS AND RESIDENTIAL WOULD FALL UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES. THAT'S GOING TO SAVE 15 TO 18 HOURS A MONTH IN STAFF TIME JUST FROM SCREENING RESIDENTIAL DEPOSITS TODAY. THAT WOULDN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE TIME THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO SCREEN COMMERCIAL FOR ADJUSTMENTS. THAT ONE WILL BE KIND OF A HIT OR MISS JUST BECAUSE HIGHER VOLUME. THERE IS WORK ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, BUT IT'S TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND KEEP THE COMMUNITY STRONG. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE PAY AGREEMENTS, IT WILL ACTUALLY SIMPLIFY THINGS FOR US QUITE A LOT. THEY WON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT MULTIPLE RESOURCES TO DETERMINE DATES. THE CUSTOMER WILL KNOW THE DATES, AND IT WILL ENABLE US TO CREATE A SELF-SERVICE FORM, BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE TRIGGERS WITHIN THE BILLING SYSTEM AND ALLOW THAT CUSTOMER, WHEN THEY GET HOME OFF THEIR SHIFT AT 2 A.M. TO GO IN THERE, PULL IT UP AND FILE FOR A PAY A PAY AGREEMENT, BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AND TELL THEM IF THEY'RE ON SUSPENSION RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. SO IT WILL ALLOW THEM THE ABILITY TO SET THOSE THINGS ON THEIR OWN AND

REQUEST THEM AS, AS NEEDED. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU CHRIS.

>> APPRECIATE IT. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT. >> ONE I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL BRINGING THIS OPPORTUNITY BEFORE US, BUT I'M GOING TO GO ON KINDERGARTEN LEVEL HERE AND ASK THE. QUESTION, OKAY, THE AUTOMATED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE, WILL

THAT ALLOW US TO SET OUR OWN DUE DATES? >> NO, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BILLING, IF WE HAD HYPOTHETICALLY WE OPENED THAT UP. IF TWO THIRDS OF THE CITY CHOOSES THE 15TH OF THE MONTH THAT WE COULD NOT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CREATE ALL THOSE BILLS AT THAT TIME. OKAY. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL BE THE CASE, BUT IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AS WE MOVE ALONG IN THE PROCESS. BUT

INITIALLY, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD EXPECT. >> OKAY. NOW I KNEW THAT THAT WE WERE NOT DOING THAT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE I WANTED TO TRY TO MOVE MY DUE DATE CLOSER TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GET PAID, RATHER THAN IT BEING DOWN THE LINE SOMEWHERE. AND I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT THAT AUTOMATED INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

>> AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN DEFINITELY TAKE BACK. AND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE

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>> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

>> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOTE IN OUR SYSTEM? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS THE DIRECTOR, YOU WE'VE GOT 48,000 CUSTOMERS WATER AND 60,000 CUSTOMERS ELECTRIC. AND I THINK THEY HANDLE THEIR OWN. BUT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THAT THAT WILL POTENTIAL CLIENTS DO. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLAG SO THAT IT'S SAY IN A YEAR OR TWO OR IN THE CASE OF AN AUDIT OR SOMETHING, YOU COULD GO BACK AND GO, OH, WELL, I DID THIS MANY DIRECTOR DISCRETIONS AND I DIDN'T EVEN

REALIZE IT KIND OF THING. DO WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY? >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> YEAH. I'M VERY, VERY FIRM ON IDENTIFYING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND DOCUMENTING THEM FOR AUDIT PURPOSES AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> PERFECT. I'M FINE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, MR. MAYOR.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? THEN?

>> I. >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS. >> I'M GOOD WITH STAFF.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. AND THIS MAY BE OUT OF SCOPE, AND IF SO, TELL ME. BUT THE THE DEPOSIT COMPONENT THOSE IF IT IF IT'S AN EXISTING BUSINESS THAT OPENS A SECOND LOCATION OR THAT SORT OF THING IS. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO I'VE HEARD ISSUES WITH THAT WHERE LET'S SAY THEY MOVE INTO A BUSINESS WHERE SOMEONE WAS A HIGH USER, THEY LEVERAGED THAT PREVIOUS USER TO ASSESS THEIR DEPOSIT FOR THEIR SECOND LOCATION. THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE A LOCATION THAT'S IN GOOD STANDING. HOW DOES THAT WORK AT ANOTHER LOCATION IN AN EXISTING

BUILDING WITH HISTORY? >> SO I DON'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT THAT IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE, I WOULD RATHER CONFIRM EVERYTHING WITH MY STAFF AND GET BACK WITH YOU

GUYS IN A FRIDAY REPORT, IF THAT'S OKAY. >> YES, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. I'M FINE WITH THE DEPOSIT. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HEARD WE LEVERAGE PREVIOUS USERS HISTORY. TO DECIDE WHAT THE DEPOSIT IS FOR A NEW USER, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO CONNECTION THERE. NO NO NO. IT'S A TOTAL NEW USE.

BUT WE'RE LEVERAGING THE OLD I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND. SURE. SO SO SO AS IT SITS, I'M OKAY WITH THE DEPOSIT THING. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND THEN I'M SORRY I MISSED IT. THE

WHAT IS THE ADJUSTMENT FOR RENTERS? >> AGAIN THE ADJUSTMENT FOR RENTERS IS IN OUR ORDINANCE. WE HAVE A PROVISION THAT TO QUALIFY FOR ADJUSTMENT, YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN AND PASS INSPECTION THROUGH BUILDING INSPECTION. SO YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN THAT PLUMBING PERMIT IF THE LEAK REQUIRES IT, SO THAT IT CAN BE INSPECTED AND PROTECT ONE THE HOMEOWNER, BUT TWO, THE POTABLE WATER SUPPLY. SO THE WAY THAT THAT WAS WRITTEN IS THAT YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT. WHAT WAS MISSED IS THAT RENTERS CANNOT PULL A PERMIT.

THAT PERMIT MUST COME FROM EITHER THE PROPERTY OWNER OR A PLUMBER. SO WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROVISIONS AND GUIDELINES OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MEET THAT, SO THAT THEY

CAN RECEIVE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. >> OKAY. SORRY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO THE.

ADJUSTMENT IS SO BUT IN THAT SCENARIO THE RENTER CAN PULL A PERMIT.

>> NO. IN THAT SCENARIO WE WILL PUT GUIDELINES THAT THE RENTER MUST FOLLOW AND NOTIFICATION TO THEIR LANDLORD OF THE LEAK. AND THEN BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE BACK TO US NOTIFICATION THAT THEY'VE LET THEIR LANDLORD KNOW IF THERE WAS NO NO PERMIT PULLED AND THAT A PERMIT MUST BE PULLED. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD TAKE THAT INTERNALLY TO WORK FOR COMPLIANCE.

>> GOT IT. WELL, THERE THERE'S A LOT THERE THOUGH, RIGHT? BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITH I NOW I CAN MAKE AN EMAIL LOOK LIKE ANYTHING AND I CAN SAY I GAVE SOMEBODY NOTICE I DIDN'T. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF CALLING BALLS AND STRIKES THERE. I TAKE THE POINT, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW, DID WE DID WE KIND OF PARSE THROUGH WHAT IF THERE'S A FRAUD ISSUE THERE? AND IF WE GET IN THE MIDDLE OF A TENANT AND PROPERTY OWNER DEBATE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY WE ALSO DEAL WITH THAT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. NOW, SURE. ON WHETHER THAT REPAIR RECEIPT IS VALID OR NOT. SURE IF THERE IS EVER A QUESTION WE ACTUALLY MAKE

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>> GOT IT? YEAH. THEN I'M FINE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD JUST SAY AN EXTRA LAYER TO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. MAYBE WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGN UNDER THE WHATEVER LEGAL LANGUAGE THAT SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO PERJURE YOURSELF. YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FINE SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HELP THOSE THAT NEED HELP, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME NOT BE VULNERABLE BECAUSE IT IS A LACK OF A BETTER TERM. IT'S A CO-OP, RIGHT. AND SO SO EVERY DOLLAR WE LOSE COSTS THE REST OF THE SYSTEM. AND SO IT'S JUST REALLY CRITICAL THAT WE'RE WE'RE CAREFUL WITH THOSE DOLLARS AS YOU KNOW. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN IS JUST MAYBE WE BEEF UP THAT THOSE THAT CHANGE TO THE RENTER PROVISION COMES WITH A STIPULATION OR TESTIFY OR STATEMENT UNDER OATH OR NOT UNDER OATH. BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WHERE IT ADDS A LITTLE MORE TEETH TO IT. OKAY. BUT YEAH, NO, THANK YOU FOR THE CHANGES AND INFORMATION. ANYONE ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSIONS.

[1. Closed Meeting:]

AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW AT 258. P M, CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE CLOSED MEETING ITEM SET FORTH ON THE AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEM AD251661.

DELIBERATIONS REGARDING CERTAIN PUBLIC POWER UTILITY COMPETITIVE MATTERS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.086. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND AN ITEM B I'D 251746. DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.087, ITEM C I'D 251528. DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.87, ITEM D I'D 251598 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072 AND THEN ITEM F I'D 251804 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071.

AND I'LL NOTE THAT ITEM E WAS SKIPPED BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST A PLACEHOLDER. SO WE WILL NOT TAKE UP ITEM E. WE'LL JUST WE'LL START WITH F AND THE A, B, C, AND D. AGAIN EXCLUDING ITEM E IT IS 259. LET'S GET STARTED AT

[AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE WORK SESSION MEETING. ]

[1. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]

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CONGRATULATIONS, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. YOU ALL HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AROUND OUR CITY, AND I KNOW IT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN. IT WAS WHEN I WAS A KID. IT WAS MY MOST FUN EVENT.

>> YEAH. AWESOME. THANK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK THERE IN AUSTIN. CARRYING THAT AND WORKING WITH YOUR YOUR COLLEAGUES TO GET THAT DONE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO IS ANY OF YOUR STAFF MEMBER HERE?

>> STAFF. MY DISTRICT DIRECTOR DEON STARNES IS HERE. SO THAT'S WHO DION IS. IF YOU EVER NEED TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME, DION IS THE PERSON TO SEE IF YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY CELL PHONE, MOST OF YOU DO. AND THEN I WANT TO CONGRATULATE GARY IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND SO,

GARY, WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOUR STAFF. >> THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE HAYS, FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. MY SON'S MIDDLE NAME IS HAYES, NAMED AFTER RUTHERFORD B HAYES. BUT THAT SIDE STORY. BUT THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE CITY HAS, HAS PUT INTO THIS OVER THE PAST, I GUESS 18 MONTHS OR SO. AND IT'S NOT JUST PARKS AND REC, IT'S A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS MARKETING, COMMUNICATIONS, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OF ALL SUPPORTED US THROUGH THIS JOURNEY AND IT'S BEEN A LOT OF FUN. IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S A LOT OF FUN AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. BUT AGAIN, MY

NAME IS GARY PECK. I'M DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. >> HI, I'M MEREDITH JONES, I'M

THE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR IN PARKS AND RECREATION. >> HI, I AM ALEXA WRIGHT, AND I'M ACTUALLY REPRESENTING THE KAVA BAR ON INDUSTRIAL STREET. AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED FOR ALL

THE SPOOKY STUFF. >> JACKIE BRODY I'M A VOLUNTEER. I'VE BEEN PAINTING SINCE THE

17TH OF JULY. >> I'M LISA BUCHANAN AND I'M HER PARTNER IN CRIME, SO WE'VE

BOTH BEEN PAINTING. >> HI, I'M DEVIN DANIELS AND I'M A MEMBER OF TEEN COUNCIL.

AWESOME. >> I'M THEODORE VOORHEES, AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF TEEN

COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MARTY HARRIS. I'M ANOTHER MEMBER OF TEEN COUNCIL.

EXCELLENT. >> I'M DOMINIC WALKER. I'M ALSO A PART OF TEEN COUNCIL.

>> MY NAME IS MIA ALLGOOD. I'M ALSO PART OF TEEN COUNCIL. >> AND SHE'S ALSO OUR PRESIDENT.

I'M JODY MCLAREN. I'M THE COORDINATOR OVER AT THE REC CENTER WITH THE PARKS AND REC

DEPARTMENT. AND I ALSO OVERSEE TEEN COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU.

>> JAMES THURMAN, PRESIDENT OF THE DENTON MAKER CENTER, AND JUST CAN'T SAY THANKS ENOUGH TO BE IN A CITY THAT IS SUPPORTIVE OF SO MUCH SPOOKINESS. THIS IS WONDERFUL.

>> I'M CANDICE RIPPY, I'M WITH TEXAS WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY, I DO COMMUNITY RELATIONS, AND WE ARE

SO EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS THIS YEAR. >> I'M AUTUMN NATALI, I'M

PROGRAM AND EVENTS MANAGER WITH PARKS AND RECREATION. >> RAMIR MARTIN, ASSISTANT,

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PUMPKIN CARRY, I MEAN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. >> WELL, AND THEN WHILE YOU

HAVE THE MIC WITH. >> YOU, BOO. WITH YOU? >> YEAH. WHAT IS THAT?

>> IT'S ON OCTOBER 16TH. AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BREAK THE TEXAS RECORD FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DOING THRILLER AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE NEED 885 PEOPLE TO COME DO

THRILLER WITH US. >> YEAH. AND SO YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN TO BOO BOO AT THE ZOO, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE TRY IT OUT. THE FOLKS ON ON THE END DOWN HERE, WE DIDN'T

GET EVERYBODY. >> RIGHT HERE. YEAH. >> HELLO, I'M CHRISTY FRANZ

WITH DISCOVER DENTON. >> CHRISTINE TAYLOR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER KRISTIN PULIDO,

MAIN STREET PROGRAM MANAGER WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> I'M MOLLY CARTER, THE

DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR DENTON MAIN STREET. >> I'M KRISTEN KENDRICK, THE

PRESIDENT OF DENTON MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION. >> I'M CHRISTY ODIN, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE GREATER DENTON ARTS COUNCIL. AND WE ARE ALSO SUPER EXCITED

ABOUT THIS INITIATIVE. >> I'M BRITTANY. >> GEISLER, I'M THE RENTALS AND

EVENTS COORDINATOR AT THE GREATER DENTON ARTS COUNCIL. >> I'M JESS GREEN, I'M THE

EDUCATION CURATOR AT THE GREATER ARTS COUNCIL. >> THANKS.

>> I'M BEN EASLEY, A OWNER OF THE BEARDED MONK. ALSO SUPER PSYCHED ABOUT THIS. YES.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO LET'S ALL Y'ALL SLIDE IN. WE'LL GET A PICTURE.

REPRESENTATIVE MAYS HERE WITH YOUR WITH THE PROCLAMATION HERE. SEE, I'M STARTING ON THE END

THERE. >> I'M GONNA SCOOT DOWN. >> YEAH. HOW DID I GET HERE? I WASN'T HERE, THANK YOU. THAT ACTUALLY WAS A TOTALLY SIDEWAYS. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. SLOTTED IN

THE BACK. THERE YOU GO. >> WAIT. WHERE ARE WE LOOKING? >> HERE. ONE. TWO. THREE.

>> 123. ONE. TWO. THREE. >> AWESOME. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE MORE.

>> SO I HAVE ONE MORE HERE THAT I HAVE TO READ. BUT YOU CAN HANG OR YOU CAN SNEAK OUT.

EITHER WAY, IT'S GOOD. YOU GOOD OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU DION OKAY. SO WE HAVE ONE MORE MR. GARY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO LAST I HEARD THERE WAS SO EARLY. THERE WAS ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO THERE WAS 250 EVENTS. GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WE HAVE A MINIATURE CITY IN

DOWNTOWN. AND SO ALL THE THINGS WHAT ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS. >> SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE FLOATING AROUND 300 EVENTS. LAST YEAR WE ENDED UP WITH 200. SO THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY LEANED INTO THIS INITIATIVE. AND SCARY ORCHARD IS BACK. WE'VE SEEN WE HAVE ABOUT 140 CHAIRS. THAT IS A COMMUNITY BUILD ART PROJECT. THE HAUNTED DOWNTOWN HALLOWEEN DIORAMA IS ANOTHER COMMUNITY BUILD ART PROJECT AND IT'S PHENOMENAL. IT'S AT UNT CO-LAB. THERE SHE IS. AND IT IS DETAILED TO THE POINT WHERE THEY TOOK THE OH OFF MAWSON. YEAH I MEAN IT. THE THE MURALS ARE PERFECT. I MEAN IT IS PHENOMENAL. YOU GOT TO SEE IT. AND IT'S REALLY FUN TO SEE EVERYONE REALLY LEANING IN AND BEING A PART OF THIS KIND OF SWELL OF, OF EXCITEMENT EVERY

OCTOBER. >> GOT IT, GOT IT. AND SO I SEE THE MAZE THAT'S NEW. YEAH. HAVE

YOU GONE THROUGH IT? >> YEAH, A FEW TIMES. >> OKAY.

>> SO WE, WE HAVE ABOUT LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 15 KIND OF EXPERIENCES PLACEMAKING LOCATIONS. THIS YEAR WE HAVE 30. AND THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER. IT IT'S A GREAT NUMBER. BUT WE'VE WE'VE IMPROVED WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. WE MADE SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO IT AND LEARNED A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN WE'VE ADDED SOME NEW THINGS. YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE AN AMUSEMENT PARK.

EVERY YEAR THEY DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO KEEP KEEP THE INTEREST. WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE COMING BACK. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME BACK MORE THAN ONCE, COME BACK IN THE DAY, COME BACK IN THE EVENING, COME BACK, YOU KNOW, FOR SPECIAL EVENTS EVERY DAY OF THE MONTH, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON. IT'S ACTUALLY STARTED A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND IT'LL RUN THROUGH THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE WEEKS OR SIX WEEKENDS OF ACTIVITIES IN, IN DENTON THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO WE HAD FOUR LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT'S GOING TO

HELP TRAFFIC AS WELL. >> AND THEN WE HAVE MORE GHOSTBUSTERS.

>> LAST YEAR, THE GHOSTBUSTERS PUT IN ABOUT 1500 HOURS OF WORK. I'M NOT SURE WHAT JACKIE AND LISA PUT IN SO FAR, BUT IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE TO 1500 HOURS OVER THERE. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT VOLUNTEERS AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY DOING IT.

>> AND THEN LASTLY, SO WE HAVE OCTOBER 1ST, WHAT ALL IS GOING ON. SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S WHAT

IS THAT TOMORROW. THAT'S TOMORROW OKAY. >> GOT IT. SO WE HAVE A BLOCK

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THAT'LL TAKE PLACE AT 5:00 AT THE MAZE. SO WE'LL OPEN THAT UP. AND THEN WE HAVE FESTIVAL FESTIVITIES STARTING AT THE CIVIC CENTER IN QUAKERTOWN PARK. ALL EVENING LONG. WE HAVE THE PUMPKIN DROP AT SEVEN SEVEN. CORRECT? YEP, SEVEN. SO A LITTLE BIT FOR EVERYBODY.

>> GOT IT. EXCELLENT. WELL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND.

>> THAT'S GREAT. >> AND I'M GONNA MAKE THE WORDS BIGGER SO I DON'T MESS UP THE

WORDS. >> OKAY. >> HOLD ON.

>> BEAR WITH ME. >> I SHOULD HAVE HAD THESE READY. NOW I CAN SEE. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. OKAY. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS. TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS EACH OCTOBER, THE CITY OF DENTON'S DOWNTOWN AREA TRANSFORMS INTO A PREMIER HALLOWEEN DESTINATION WITH AN ARRAY OF FUN, FRIGHTFUL ACTIVITIES AND FOR FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF ALL AGES. FEATURING A VARIETY OF EXCITING AND IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCES. AND WHEREAS THE 31ST DAY OF DENTON HALLOWEEN BUILDS ON THE SUCCESS OF LAST YEAR'S INAUGURAL EVENT THAT ATTRACTED MORE THAN 660,000 VISITORS TO DENTON'S HISTORIC SQUARE. AND WHEREAS 31 DAYS OF DENTON HALLOWEEN EVOKES A SENSE OF NOSTALGIA PLAYING, PAYING HOMAGE TO THE CHERISHED TRADITIONS OF THIS HOLIDAY AND CELEBRATING THE ARTISTS COMMUNITY, INCLUDING MOVIE NIGHTS, A BLOCK PARTY, A PUMPKIN DROP AND THEMED SCAVENGER HUNT, INTERACTIVE STORYTELLING SESSIONS, SEASONAL TREATS, AND ONE OF A KIND ATTRACTIONS. AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE CITY OF DENTON PROUDLY ACKNOWLEDGES AND CELEBRATES THE 31 DAYS OF DENTON HALLOWEEN, HONORING ITS COMMITMENT TO DENTON. SPECIAL EVENTS, ARTS, CULTURE, TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. GIVE

HIM A HAND. >> ALL IN SCIENCE. HERE WE GO. >> I GOT YOU. YEAH, OKAY.

>> COME ON. AWESOME. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU,

THANK YOU ALL. >> YES, I HEARD YOUR NAME. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S. YES. OKAY. ALL

RIGHT. >> LAST TIME WE GET THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE YOU ON TO HOLD ONE OF THESE FOR THAT. OH, YES. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. GIVE THIS TO MAYOR PRO TEM. THIS ONE? YES, THAT'D BE GOOD. YES. THAT ONE I FORGOT I FORGOT TO BRING THAT TRANS LIVES MATTER STANDARDS ARE. WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR. I KNOW YOU WANT TO BE IN THE PICTURE. YOU WANT TO COME IN HERE AND. GET IN HERE CLOSER, BRO. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OH.

>> ALL RIGHT. 123. >> YEAH. >> 123.

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL Y'ALL.

NICE. VERY NICE. SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR COFFEE? YES, SIR. GARY RAN AWAY. NO, NO.

THANK YOU. OH, YEAH. THANK YOU. LITERALLY YEARS AGO. I'M OUT OF HERE.

>> APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE DONE? IT'S PRETTY NICE. I NEED TO BE DONE IN HERE. DOWN THERE. THERE'S THREE ON THE HALLOWEEN KILLS. HALLOWEEN. NEXT YEAR WE'LL COME BACK. OKAY. GOOD. SOMETHING FOR US TOO.

OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT, SO I WILL READ US BACK IN THE CLOTHES. I WILL GO.

>> BACK IN THE CLOTHES. SO. OKAY. THERE IT IS. YEAH OKAY. SO WE'LL TRANSITION TO. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU GO BACK. DO YOU HAVE TO CLOSE IT OPEN OR.

>> NO I'M GONNA I'M GONNA CLOSE BACK IN THERE. >> HERE WE GO.

>> THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW AT 5:49 P.M. CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE CLOSED MEETING ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEM C ID 251528.

DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 3551.087 AND ITEM DD251598 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT

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[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

DISTRICT TWO APPROVAL. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN.

I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN BECK. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. JOE DID NOT RECUSE. HE'S JUST NOT HERE. TO

RUN AGAIN. >> NO, WE HAVE A IT'LL BE JUST. IT'S JUST A CONSENT AGENDA. SO

JUST MARK HIM AS. >> SIX ZERO ABSENT. >> THAT'S FINE. YEP I

UNDERSTAND. AND THAT PASSES. WAIT. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. >> THAT WAS ONLY FIVE.

>> WHO DID WE MISS? >> JILL DIDN'T VOTE. >> OH, THERE YOU GO. WE GOT TO

DO IT AGAIN. SO. YEAH. >> WHAT? OKAY. >> THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

[A. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton nominating members to the Board of Directors of the Denton Central Appraisal District; and providing an effective date.]

>> THREE OKAY. >> AT THREE A IS IT 251520. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON NOMINATING MEMBERS OF TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, DENTON

CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MATT HAMILTON FINANCE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE DCAD RESOLUTION FOR NOMINATIONS AND SEEK NOMINATIONS TO THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS HIRES THE CHIEF APPRAISER AND SETS THE BUDGET.

HOWEVER, THE DIRECTORS HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO SET VALUES OR APPRAISAL METHODS. SEEN HERE IN THE TABLE IS THE CURRENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, PLACES FOUR AND SEVEN AND, MICHAEL AND MIKE JENNIFER ARE HAVE THEIR TERMS ENDING AT THE END OF DECEMBER. THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL SERVE STAGGERED FOUR YEAR TERMS, AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS CURRENTLY HAS A NINE MEMBER BOARD WITH FIVE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS, ONE BEING SERVED AS THE TAX ASSESSOR AND THREE PUBLICLY ELECTED MEMBERS. TWO BOARD MEMBER TERMS EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31ST PLACES FOUR AND SEVEN, AND THE COUNCIL TONIGHT MAY NOMINATE UP TO TWO NOMINEES.

THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE NOMINEES. THEY MUST RESIDE IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR AT LEAST THE LAST TWO YEARS. CITY, COUNTY OR SCHOOL DISTRICT ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ELIGIBLE, SO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS INTERESTED ARE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE. EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE UNLESS THEY'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AS WELL, AND A PERSON IS NOT ELIGIBLE IF THEY ARE CLOSELY RELATED TO ANYONE IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OR RELATED TO ANYONE WHO REPRESENTS OWNERS IN THE DISTRICT, OR PERSON WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN A BUSINESS THAT CONTRACTS WITH THE DISTRICT. WE DID REACH OUT TO THE DCAD AND THE TWO INCUMBENTS ARE INTERESTED AND WOULD SEEK RENOMINATION. SO THE NOMINATION PROCESS PRIOR TO OCTOBER 1ST, THE DCAD NOTIFIES THE TAXING ENTITY OF THE NUMBER OF VOTES THEY'RE ENTITLED TO CAST. BY OCTOBER 15TH, THE CITY WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT OUR NOMINATIONS TO THE DCAD. PRIOR TO THE 30TH,

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THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE FOR THE DCAD BOARD. >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR

STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. >> READY FOR NOMINATIONS OR

QUESTIONS? >> YES. NOMINATIONS ARE. >> FINE. IN KEEPING WITH EVERY OTHER TIME WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, I NOMINATE COUNCILMEMBER VICKI BYRD IF

SHE'S OPEN TO IT. SINCE WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR TO YOU. >> I RESPECT.

>> OKAY, WELL THEN I WILL NOMINATE THE INCUMBENTS. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. DO YOU NEED THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. WE DON'T NEED A CONSENSUS. RIGHT?

>> I NEED A VOTE. >> OKAY. THEN I'LL SECOND SO MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE INCUMBENTS DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE. SO THE MOTION BY REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. SECOND BY MYSELF. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN WHENEVER IT'S SET. THAT PASSES SEVEN

[B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation (“Denton”) providing for, authorizing, and approving the execution by the City Manager of the Power Purchase Agreement (“PPA”) between Denton and Tidwell Prairie IIA, LLC (“Tidwell Prairie”); authorizing the acceptance and approval by the City Manager of the Letter of Credit or other credit support issued on behalf of Tidwell Prairie further securing the obligations of Tidwell Prairie to Denton for the benefit of Denton; approving the execution of such other and further related documents deemed necessary to effectuate the transactions allowed under this agreement by the City Manager, which are incident to or related to the PPA; finding that the purchase of capacity and energy made by Denton under the terms of the PPA are in the public welfare; authorizing the expenditure of funds; determining that specific information contained in documents involved in this transaction pertain to a “Competitive Electric Matter” as set forth under the provisions of §551.086 and §552.133 of the Texas Government Code, as amended; allowing the public to inspect and reproduce the PPA as redacted; and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board will consider this item on Monday, September 29, 2025.]

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JOSE GAITAN, EXECUTIVE MANAGER OF POWER SUPPLY FOR DME. TODAY, WE'RE HERE TO COVER A PROPOSAL THAT WAS RECEIVED AS AS FAR AS AN RFP THAT WAS ISSUED 8678. AND IN THIS PROPOSAL, WE RECEIVED A TIDWELL PRAIRIE TWO, A UTILITY SCALE BATTERY STORAGE, AS A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT BOTH ERCOT AND DME ARE FACING IS THE DUCK CURVE EXPOSURE, AND THAT IS THE HOURS BETWEEN 6 P.M. AND 9 P.M.

WHERE THE SUN GOES OVER THE HORIZON AND SOLAR PRODUCTION GOES TO ZERO, AND WE END UP PRODUCTION IS RAMPING UP. AND DURING THAT REDUCTION IN RENEWABLE OUTPUT, WE STILL SEE HEAVY LOAD STILL IN DURING THOSE HOURS. AND SO OUR LOAD, OUR PORTFOLIO IS PREDOMINANTLY RENEWABLES. AND SO WE SEE THIS SAME PHENOMENON OCCURRING. AND SO THAT EXPOSES OUR CUSTOMERS TO $5,000 PER MEGAWATT HOUR PRICING. SO IT'S HIGH VOLATILITY DURING THOSE HOURS.

NORMALLY WE SEE PRICES IN THE 20 TO $50 RANGE. AND SO THAT IS AN EXTREME PRICE FLUCTUATION THAT WE SEE DURING THOSE HOURS. WE BELIEVE THAT THE BATTERY SOLUTION CAN HELP COMBAT THOSE HIGH PRICES AND PROTECT OUR CUSTOMERS. SO AS PART OF THIS DEAL, THE TERM IS FOR TEN YEARS.

IT'S FOR 100MW OF CAPACITY FOR A DURATION OF TWO HOURS. AND THE GOOD THING IS THAT IT'S AVAILABLE STARTING AS EARLY AS JUNE OF 2026. THE PRICES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ARE INCLUSIVE OF FEDERAL TAX CREDITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO ALL BATTERIES, ACCORDING TO THE IRA

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AND SO WITH THAT AND IT'S AVAILABILITY AS EARLY AS JUNE OF 2026, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE TIDWELL POWER TO PPA. AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ANY

QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NONE.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. >> THANK YOU I MOVE APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> IT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP ON THIS KIND OF JOURNEY. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR WORK ON

THIS. I SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE.

LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM. THREE C, WHICH IS ID

[C. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation (“Denton”) providing for, authorizing, and approving the execution by the City Manager of the Power Purchase Agreement (“PPA”) between Denton and Blue Summit I Wind, LLC (“Blue Summit”); authorizing the acceptance and approval by the City Manager of the Letter of Credit or other credit support issued on behalf of Blue Summit further securing the obligations of Blue Summit to Denton for the benefit of Denton; approving the execution of such other and further related documents deemed necessary to effectuate the transactions allowed under this agreement by the City Manager, which are incident to or related to the PPA; finding that the purchase of capacity and energy made by Denton under the terms of the PPA are in the public welfare; authorizing the expenditure of funds; determining that specific information contained in documents involved in this transaction pertain to a “Competitive Electric Matter” as set forth under the provisions of §551.086 and §552.133 of the Texas Government Code, as amended; allowing the public to inspect and reproduce the PPA as redacted; and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board will consider this item on Monday, September 29, 2025.]

CREDIT OR OTHER CREDIT SUPPORT ISSUED ON BEHALF OF BLUE SUMMIT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JOSE GAITAN, EXECUTIVE MANAGER OF POWER SUPPLY FOR DME. AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE YOU SOME DISCUSSION REGARDING A PROPOSAL THAT WAS RECEIVED AS PART OF RFP 8678. IN THIS CASE, IT'S BLUE SUMMIT, ONE UTILITY SCALE WIND GENERATION. THIS DEAL THE TERMS FOR THIS DEAL ARE A TERM FOR 15 YEARS, FOR APPROXIMATELY 140MW OF CAPACITY. THE GOOD THING IS THAT IT'S AVAILABLE NOW, WHICH WOULD GRANDFATHER IT IN TO RECEIVE FEDERAL PRODUCTION TAX CREDITS. SHOULD THERE BE ANY CHANGES IN THE GOVERNMENT AS FAR AS WHICH NEW FACILITIES CAN RECEIVE PTC IN THE FUTURE? MORE THAN LIKELY THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED, AND SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CHANGES TO THE PRICING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR, WHICH IS GOOD FOR US. AND THERE WOULD BE NO CONSTRUCTION DELAYS AS IT IS CURRENTLY ALREADY IN PRODUCTION, JUST WAITING TO FIND A NEW HOME. BLUE SUMMIT ONE WIND IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY NEXTERA. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT WITH NEXTERA, AND THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER TO DME. AND NEXTERA AGAIN IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST GENERATORS OF CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY. THEY HAVE OVER 119 PROJECTS IN THE US AND CANADA. AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE BEEN A VERY GREAT PARTNER. BLUE SUMMIT ONE WIND IS LOCATED IN VERNON, TEXAS, AGAIN IN THE NEAR THE PANHANDLE WHERE THERE'S PLENTY OF WIND TO FUEL THIS FARM. AND SO IT'S A GREAT LOCATION RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE METROPLEX IN DENTON. AND WITH THIS NEW FACILITY, IT WOULD BRING OUR TOTAL RENEWABLE CAPACITY TO JUST OVER JUST UNDER, EXCUSE ME, 600MW OF CAPACITY. THE 15 YEAR TERM WILL TAKE US ALL THE WAY TO 2040. BLUE SUMMIT. ONE WIND AGAIN DIVERSIFIES OUR PRODUCTION OF RENEWABLE POWER. IT'S NOT ANOTHER SOLAR ADDITION. AND SO WE WILL HAVE PRODUCTION NOT ONLY DURING THE DAY BUT AT NIGHT TO HELP DIVERSIFY OUR WIND PRODUCTION, OUR RENEWABLE PRODUCTION, AND HELP REDUCE EXPOSURE TO THE INCREASING PRICES OF NIGHTTIME POWER. AS WE'VE BEEN SEEING DEMAND GROWING FROM DATA CENTERS THAT RUN 24 OVER SEVEN. SO AGAIN, THIS FACILITY IS AVAILABLE NOW. IT DOES NOT PROVIDE 100% PRICE MITIGATION, BUT IT DOES HELP CONTINUE OUR RENEWABLE GOALS THAT ARE SET BY THE DRP. AND WE

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PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR PRO TEM? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR THE DIVERSIFICATION OF THE PORTFOLIO AND SPECIFICALLY FOR PUTTING THIS, THIS WIND TOGETHER WITH THE BATTERY STORAGE AND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THERE. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THAT. AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE

APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT

TWO. >> I'M HAPPY TO APPROVE MOTION A SECOND.

>> MOTION A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. PASSES

[4. CONCLUDING ITEMS]

SIX. >> I JUST WANT TO SEND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF BILL, OR HE AND HIS FAMILY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY DECADES. ONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WAS OVER PRESIDENT OF FIRST STATE BANK BACK BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE IT WAS WELLS FARGO AND HIS WIFE AND FORMER WIFE AND CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND VOLUNTEER IN MANY CAPACITIES. SO HE PASSED AWAY EARLY THIS MORNING, AND I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY CONDOLENCES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

>> THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT SATURDAY IS THE CELEBRATION OF SAINT FRANCIS DAY. MY CHURCH, SAINT DAVID OF WALES EPISCOPAL CHURCH, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, DECADES HAS HAD A BLESSING OF THE ANIMALS THIS DAY. AND IF IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR THEIR PET BLESSED, THERE'S A WONDERFUL CEREMONY BEGINNING AT 10:00 AT SAINT DAVID'S. IT'S OUTDOORS, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S ANIMALS ARE ANIMALS. SO WE WE DO THIS OUTDOORS. BUT THIS IS A TERRIFIC, TERRIFIC SERVICE. AND I WILL HAVE I WILL HAVE CHARLIE THERE. HE USUALLY GETS AN EXORCISM AS WELL. JUST, JUST JUST IN CASE. AND I'D LIKE. WHAT ABOUT THAT MEAN GREEN FOOTBALL. WHAT ABOUT THAT FIVE AND ZERO AS AS I'M SURE ALL OF YOU KNOW, THEY RECEIVED SEVEN VOTES IN THE ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25, WHICH WAS ONE MORE VOTE THAN TCU GOT THIS WEEK. WE'RE IDLE THIS WEEK, BUT WE PLAY AGAIN AGAINST SOUTH FLORIDA A WEEK FROM SATURDAY. A WEEK FROM FRIDAY. I BEG YOUR PARDON? OCTOBER 10TH AT 630. AND WE NEED TO IT'S GOING TO BE NATIONALLY TELEVISED. SO WE NEED TO SHOW OFF. DENTON, TEXAS BIG TIME. 630 FRIDAY, OCTOBER 10TH. BE THERE. BE SQUARE.

THANK YOU MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I JUST WANT TO WISH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAPPY 31 DAYS OF HALLOWEEN. IT'S

GOING TO BE AN EXCITING MONTH. >> THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO.

>> THANK YOU. I GOT HOUSE LIGHTS JUST SO I COULD LIGHT MY HOUSE GREEN, EVEN THOUGH ONLY MY SON GOES TO UNT. NO, THAT'S A LIE. I GOT IT FOR HALLOWEEN, BUT IT'S IT'S ALL STILL DENTON, RIGHT? I ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ARTS AND JAZZ, AND ALL THE OTHER 31 DAYS OF EVENTS ARE COMING UP. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO OUT TO THOSE EVENTS.

>> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE?

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