[WORK SESSION] [00:00:08] >> WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2025. IT'S 3 P.M. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE ANY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO. REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION OF AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL [A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Craver Ranch planned development, municipal management district, and related agreements. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 60 minutes]] MOVE ON TO WORK. SESSION REPORTS. ITEM A ID 25-1589. RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CRAVER RANCH PLAN DEVELOPMENT, MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND RELATED AGREEMENTS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS ITEM TODAY BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE CRAVER RANCH DEVELOPMENT. I'LL BE INTRODUCING THE DEVELOPMENT GOING OVER THE DEAL POINTS OF THE AGREEMENTS. COUNCIL WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE AGREEMENTS AS THEY FOLLOW THE EXISTING MDS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY. AND THEN THE DEVELOPER WILL ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION. SO PLAN IN THE FUTURE. CITY COUNCIL WILL SEE THE PROJECT AND OPERATING AGREEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL ALSO HAVE A ZONING CASE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND A MOBILITY PLAN AMENDMENT. FOR CONTEXT, THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN NORTH DENTON, JUST SOUTH OF LAKE RAY ROBERTS. IT'S BORDERED BY FM 2164, FM 2153, AND THEN TO THE NORTH, FM 455. SOME BACKGROUND. SO IN 2008 AND 2009, THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED. A TOTAL OF 2870 ACRES. THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY IS FOR 202,500 OF THOSE ACRES. THE DEVELOPERS OLD PROSPER PARTNERS. A BIT OF HISTORY ON THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. WE HELD AN INITIAL PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE IN NOVEMBER OF 2024 AND THEN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION FOR SUPPORT OF THE LEGISLATION FOR CREATION OF THE MMD, AND THEN ALSO PART OF THAT CONSENT WAS FOR THE COMPLETION OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER. SO CITY STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING TERMS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, DRAFTING AGREEMENTS AND WORKING ON THE STUDY SHOWN BELOW. OVER THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS. SO WHAT IS A MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT? MMD IS A SEPARATE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION FROM THE CITY THAT CAN COLLECT PROPERTY TAXES OR ASSESSMENTS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. CRAVER RANCH IS PROPOSING TO LEVY ASSESSMENTS. THE CRAVER RANCH MMD WAS CREATED BY THE LEGISLATURE, SO IN AN MMD, THE DEVELOPER FUNDS THE COST OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN ISSUES BONDS TO BE REIMBURSED FROM THOSE COSTS. THE MMD CAN ALSO ISSUE THE BONDS AND CONSTRUCT THE IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN THE DEVELOPERS REIMBURSED ONLY AFTER THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. AND THEN THE REVENUE FROM THE ASSESSMENTS GOES TO PAY BACK THE BONDS FOR THE DISTRICT. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A 2500 ACRE DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 9200 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THEY HAVE ONE POINT 2,000,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL. THE PROPERTY IS BISECTED BY TWO DIFFERENT INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, DENTON AND SANGER ISDS. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THREE SCHOOL SITES. ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN EACH SINGER AND DENTON ISD, AND THEN A MIDDLE SCHOOL IN DENTON ISD. IN TOTAL, THEY HAVE A LITTLE OVER 400 MILLION IN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND ARE PROPOSING A 17 YEAR CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE. SO INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS PROJECT. SO THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE INITIAL PHASES FROM WATER LINES THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS. AND THEN IN THE MASTER PLAN, THE CITY HAS A FUTURE TRANSMISSION MAIN THAT CROSSES THE PROPERTY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS FOR THAT TRANSMISSION MAIN, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT AND FUND AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AS WELL. THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN THAT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FOLLOWING INSTALLATION AND A TWO YEAR WARRANTY PERIOD. ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING A GRAVITY SEWER LINE TO CONNECT TO A FUTURE INTERCEPTOR THAT THE CITY IS IN DESIGN ON CURRENTLY, AND THAT WILL BE BUILT IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS. THE ROADWAYS. THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD CONSTRUCT ALL OF THE ROADWAYS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN THOSE ROADWAYS IN THE FUTURE, AND THEY WOULD ALSO COORDINATE WITH DENTON COUNTY AND TXDOT ON THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS TO THE [00:05:05] PROPERTY. AND THEN AS FAR AS DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY IN THE RIGHTS OF WAY, ANY DRAINAGE NOT IN THE RIGHTS OF WAY WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE MMD. SO AGAIN, ON THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE PICTURES WHERE THAT FUTURE TRANSMISSION 60 INCH TRANSMISSION LINE WOULD GO. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPER ON THE ALIGNMENT OF THAT AND THE EASEMENTS FOR THAT. AND THEN WE WOULD EXPAND PRODUCTION CAPACITY AT THE ROBERTS TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE WASTE AND THE WATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE WASTEWATER. YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE LOWER PICTURE IN RED IS THE CLEAR CREEK INTERCEPTOR THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DESIGNED AND IS PLANNED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS THAT WOULD SERVE THE WASTEWATER NEEDS OF NORTHERN DENTON, AND THEN ALSO THAT INCLUDES THE CLEAR CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO FOR PARKS IN TOTAL THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO MEET THE CITY'S TEN MINUTE WALK GOALS FOR PARKS. THEY'RE PROPOSING A TOTAL OF 380 ACRES OF PARKS. SO THEY'RE REQUIRED BY THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE TO TO DEDICATE AT LEAST 67 ACRES OF PARKS. BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN TOTAL TO HAVE 380 ACRES. SO THAT INCLUDES A 358 ACRE CENTRAL PARK AND THEN ADDITIONAL CITY PARK ON THE WESTERN PORTION, ALONG WITH A TRAILHEAD TO CONNECT TO THE 13.5 MILES OF TRAIL SYSTEM THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND THEN POCKET PARKS. THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY WOULD ALSO CONSTRUCT PRIVATE AMENITIES TO BE USED BY THE HOA. SO TO DISCUSS THE CENTRAL PARK A LITTLE BIT MORE. IN TOTAL, IT'S 358 ACRES, SO 330 OF THAT OR 338 OF THAT WOULD BE WITHIN A FLOWAGE EASEMENT. SO THAT'S FROM THE LAKE RAY ROBERTS DAM. THERE'S A EASEMENT ACROSS THE PROPERTY. AND THEN 181 OF THOSE ACRES IS OUTSIDE OF ANY FLOODPLAIN. BUT WITHIN THAT EASEMENT. AND THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE THE ACREAGE WITHIN THAT FLOW EASEMENT FOR THE CENTRAL PARK DOWN TO A MINIMUM OF 250 ACRES. SO, ALONG WITH THE AGREEMENTS, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. AND IN ALL TOTAL, THEY'RE PLANNING TO FOLLOW MOSTLY THE CITY DEVELOPMENT CODE, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DEVIATIONS AND ENHANCEMENTS. THEY'RE ADDING STANDARDS FOR STANDARDS FOR ZERO LOT LINE HOMES AND THEN ESTABLISHING A MIX OF USES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL COMMERCIAL TO INCLUDE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LOT SIZES. THEY'RE ALSO INCLUDING INCREASED LANDSCAPE FENCING AND BUILDING STANDARDS AND PROVIDING A UNIQUE ROADWAY CROSS SECTIONS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS. THIS CURRENTLY IS DESIGNATED AS AN AGRICULTURAL ZONE. IT RECEIVED THAT DESIGNATION WITHIN THE WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE COMP PLAN TO MATCH THE ZONING. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN HAD AN EAST WEST ROADWAY THAT WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF A LARGE FLOODPLAIN AREA. SO WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO DO IS TO MODIFY THAT, TO MOVE THAT EAST WEST ROADWAY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH. AND THEN THEY HAVE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY ALONG WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT. AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY SUPPORTED THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY, THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSING A TOTAL OF $7.5 MILLION OF FUNDING, CONTRIBUTIONS TO BE PAID OUT THROUGH THE BONDS WHEN THEY'RE ISSUED FOR THE MMD. THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO CONVEY TO THE CITY 48.5 ACRES OF LAND. SO THAT INCLUDES SIX ACRES FOR FIRE STATIONS AND THEN 42.5 ACRES OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT FOR CITY PARKS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE WITHIN THAT EASEMENT IN THE CITY PARK. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT ON A 13.5 MILE TRAIL SYSTEM. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO GIVE THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE FUTURE WATER LINE AND CONSTRUCT AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. THEY WOULD GENERALLY FOLLOW THE CITY'S TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS [00:10:05] THE 9200 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE CITY. THEY WOULD HAVE ONE POINT 2,000,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S ADDED, WHICH EQUATES TO A TOTAL OF JUST OVER $5 BILLION IN ASSESSED VALUE AT BUILD OUT. AND THE CITY, BASED ON THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS, WOULD GAIN APPROXIMATELY $38 MILLION IN NET REVENUE OVER 40 YEARS. SO THIS ITEM TODAY IS FOR A WORK SESSION TO SEEK COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROPOSED AGREEMENTS. WE'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TOMORROW. AND THEN IN ON NOVEMBER 19TH, THE ZONING, COMPREHENSIVE AND MOBILITY PLAN HEARINGS WOULD HAPPEN AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THIS ITEM WOULD COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 2ND FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE AGREEMENTS AND THE ASSOCIATED ZONING ITEMS. AND THEN THE DEVELOPER HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL THAT THEY'LL GO THROUGH. AND THEN WE CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. >> THANK YOU CHARLIE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I CLEARLY WORE THE RIGHT TOP BECAUSE IT'S VERY LOUD. MY NAME IS ALEXA NEEDHAM WITH DAIKI LAW 322 WEST WALNUT SALINA. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND TO DISCUSS FOR THE DEVELOPER THE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE OUR ENTIRE TEAM HERE. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE HIGH POINTS, NOT REPEATING WHAT CHARLIE HAS SAID, BUT HIT ON SOME ADDITIONAL POINTS. AND THEN IF THERE, I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS. AND WE HAVE ALL THE EXPERTS HERE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER, WHETHER IT'S WITH REGARD TO THE DISTRICT, ENGINEERING, TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL. WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE. OOPS, CHARLIE. >> HOW DO I GET RID OF THAT? OKAY. THANKS. >> ALL RIGHT. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH. WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A YEAR, AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF TURNOVER AT CITY STAFF LEVEL. AND UNDERNEATH THE LEADERSHIP OF CHARLIE, EVERYTHING HAS GONE WITHOUT A HITCH. NEVER ONCE WAS A COMMENT RECEIVED LATE, SO THAT WE REALLY CERTAINLY APPRECIATE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS PROCESS WITHOUT THEM. ALL RIGHT. SO THE FIRST PICTURE WE HAVE HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP. AND THIS EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE IT IS, BUT IT'S IN THE NORTHERNMOST PORTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON. WE HAVE 2500 ACRE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO IT'S NOT A SMALL DEAL. IT'S A $5.1 BILLION ASSESSED VALUE PROJECT. ONCE IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED, IT'S A WELL APPOINTED PLAN AND AMENITIZED COMMUNITY WITH, AS CHARLIE MENTIONED, TRAIL SYSTEMS, PUBLIC PARKS, OPEN SPACE, COMMUNITY CENTERS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS SUPPORTING RETAIL, FIRE, POLICE, ETC. SO WE HAVE 2164 TO THE WEST, I-35 FURTHER WEST FROM THERE, 2153 TO THE NORTH AND EAST, SHEPHERD AND GRIBBLE TO THE SOUTH. AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE PROPOSED REGIONAL OUTER LOOP TO THE SOUTH. I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO REPEAT THINGS, BUT THIS SLIDE IS WORTH REPEATING BECAUSE IT IS THE REASON FOR YOU ALL TO SUPPORT THIS MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY. IT IS OF BENEFIT FOR THE CITY OF DENTON. IT IS BENEFIT FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND FOR THE DEVELOPER. AND WHY? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SMART GROWTH AND WE HAVE. WHEN WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE DISCUSSED THIS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS WILL KNOW WHAT IS COMING. THE CITY WILL KNOW WHAT IS COMING. YOU HAVE 20. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO APPROVE THE ZONING FOR A 2500 ACRE CONTIGUOUS LANDMASS THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT IS HEAVY ON GREEN SPACE, PARK SPACE AND OPEN SPACE. IT THROUGH THE UTILITY SERVICES THAT WE ARE EXTENDING UP TO THE PROJECT, WHICH THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE PUTTING THEM IN. CANNOT DO THAT WITHOUT THE MMD DISTRICT, AND WE'VE GOT OVER $12 MILLION OF OFF SITES COMING UP TO THE PROPERTY AT BUILDOUT. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S $5.1 BILLION IN THE TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE, 1.2 BILLION IN DENTON, TAX REVENUE, OVER $30 MILLION OF ANNUAL TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY, THE FUNDING CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO EQUATE TO 7.5 MILLION, 2.5 MILLION FOR POLICE AND FIRE. WE HAVE THOSE SITES LOCATED, 2 MILLION FOR AN OFF SITE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, 3 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE LEMON KEEPS ON GETTING SQUEEZED AND THE LAND GIFTED TO THE CITY ARE THE SIX ACRES FOR THE FIRE STATION, 300 AND 80.5 ACRES FOR CITY [00:15:02] PARKLAND, 13.5 MILES FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM. THE EASEMENT FOR THE WATER TRANSMISSION LINE, ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, AND AGAIN, THE 12 OVER $12 MILLION OF OFF SITE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY, SO THIS IS A MAP THAT YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH. THIS IS YOUR COMP PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2022. I USE THIS WHEN WE HAD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. WE HAD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, ONE IN JULY AND ONE IN SEPTEMBER, AND THE CROSS HATCH AREA, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, THAT'S IN THE ETJ. THE MOST OF THE SURROUNDING IMMEDIATE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE WITHIN THE ETJ. WE DID NOTICE THOSE FOLKS TOO, SO THEY DID COME TO THE MEETING. WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SHARE WHAT IS COMING UP, WHAT COULD BE COMING UP IN THIS AREA. AS CHARLIE ALSO MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY BACK IN 2008 AND NINE. SO IT HAS BEEN SITTING ON THE BOOKS AS AG. SO THIS CREATES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT BRINGS IN ALL THAT AD VALOREM TAX INTO THE CITY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THE LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT. AND SOME SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE THE QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THAT AS FAR AS WELL, WHY WHY ARE YOU GOING TO LEAP OVER THOSE ACREAGES AND HAVE THIS SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH VERY EASILY? IT'S AGAIN, IT'S SMART GROWTH. YOU HAVE 2500 ACRES OF CONTIGUOUS LAND, AND YOU COULD DO, YOU KNOW, DEATH BY PERMITS, RIGHT? YOU COULD HAVE 25 DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS, 100 ACRES EACH. YOU DON'T GET MUCH OPPORTUNITY OF REALLY CREATING A SENSE OF PLACE OVER, LET'S SAY, 100 ACRES. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE 2500 ACRES, THAT'S A BIG DEAL. AND YOU'RE ABLE TO GET A LOT FROM THE DEVELOPER. WITH REGARD TO EVERYTHING WE WENT THROUGH IN THE LAST SLIDE, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO CREATE THAT SENSE OF PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE ABLE TO OFFER VARIOUS PRODUCT TYPES, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH IN A MINUTE TO. ALL RIGHT. SO ZONING. SO AGAIN THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WE USE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EXPLAIN KIND OF WHAT ZONING IS. BUT FOR YOU ALL AGAIN WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A YEAR. WE THE PROPOSAL IS TO REZONE THIS FROM RR TO PD. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ZONING PROCESS FOR ANY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT. AGAIN, WE HAVE ETJ IS PRIMARILY SURROUNDING THE TRACKS. ANYTHING IN GREEN IS ARE THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN THE CITY ARE QUITE LIMITED. AND ACTUALLY THE SELLER IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST PORTION THAT IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE PROJECT. SO OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, WE HAD OUR PRE-APPLICATION MEETING AND NOW WE HAVE SUBMITTED INTO THE CITY THE PD FOR THE ZONING. AND WITH THAT WE HELD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS IN THROUGH THE PROCESS THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT, TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT, DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, PROJECT AGREEMENT AND OPERATING AGREEMENT. JUST TO GO THROUGH ZONING, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, IT'S IT IS CHALLENGING TO DO DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF DENTON. AND AS I EXPLAINED TO THE NEIGHBORS, THAT'S A GOOD THING IF YOU'RE IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DENTON. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS PUT THROUGH SCRUTINY AND DOES ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE UP FRONT TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY WANT TO BRING BEFORE THE CITY OF DENTON AND BEFORE YOU ALL TO, TO VOTE ON. AND THEN WITH EACH PHASE, IT'S NOT THE LAST TIME YOU'LL CERTAINLY SEE US. WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS OVER AGAIN. TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT, DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, ENGINEERING PLANS AND ULTIMATELY FINAL PLAT. SO WE HAVE THE TWO DIFFERENT FOUR DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES. HERE WE HAVE R4 WHICH REPRESENTS OUR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R7 WHICH IS OUR MODERATE. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SUPPORTING NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND THEN ALSO REGIONAL MORE ALONG WHERE THE OUTER LOOP MIGHT BE OR ALONG WHERE THE MAJOR ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE IS. IT CREATES THAT FABRIC FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING LOCAL FOR PEOPLE TO SHOP AT. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE PD. IT SHOWS AGAIN THE DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES ALONG WITH THE PHASES. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL TAKE FOR GRANTED BECAUSE WE DO THIS ON A DAILY BASIS. BUT WHEN I PRESENTED IT TO THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT NECESSARILY INTUITIVE. THIS PROJECT'S NOT GOING TO BE PLOPPED ON THE GROUND, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE 7000 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW IF IF WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH THAT THE ZONING GETS APPROVED AND IT MOVES FORWARD WITH ALL THE ENTITLEMENTS STARTING NEXT YEAR, THAT'S THREE YEARS BEFORE YOU'RE EVEN BREAKING GROUND. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT BEST, A 20 YEAR HORIZON FOR BUILDING FOR THIS PROJECT. SO IT HAPPENS SLOWLY. WE HAVE WITHIN HERE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY STAFF ACTUALLY ASKED US IN OUR PD STANDARDS WAS, WHY ARE YOU LIMITING SOME OF THE LAND USES THAT THE DDC ALLOWS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE ZONING CATEGORIES? [00:20:03] WELL, THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER KNOWS SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY WANT TO DEVELOP, AND IT'S A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH SPECIFIC YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE KITCHEN SINK IN HERE. AND WE'VE SEEN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ALSO SAY, WHY DON'T YOU? THIS IS NOT A SPECULATIVE RIGHT. SO WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY THE LAND USES THAT WE WANT SO THAT WE'VE WE'VE PARED THAT BACK. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CENTRAL PARK, THE 338 ACRES, WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL. WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE LOW DENSITY WILL HAVE 60S AND 70S IN THE MODERATE DENSITIES, WILL HAVE 40S AND LARGER, 40S AND 50S. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MIXED USE REGIONAL. THE PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY ONLY HAVE LIKE FOUR MULTIFAMILY DEALS IN HERE. BUT SO WE DO HAVE MULTIFAMILY, WE HAVE TOWNHOME. WE HAVE A ZERO LOT LINE PRODUCT TOO, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PRODUCT. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, THE 40S, 50S AND 60S. SO HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF PRODUCT TYPES THAT YOU MAY SEE. THESE ARE THE 50S, 60S AND 70 LOTS. THE 40 FOOT IS AN INTERESTING LITTLE PRODUCT THE COTTAGE TYPE. AS THE PROJECT, AS THE PROJECT MATURES, THEN YOU ARE ABLE TO MOVE INTO THE TOWNHOME LIVE WORK SCENARIO. THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD BE WITH THE GREEN SPACE, THE POCKET PARKS, ACCESS TO THEM FRONTING ON THAT, THOSE AREAS. IT IS WARM IN HERE. YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, SOME SORT OF BOUTIQUE Y SORT OF SITUATION SUCH AS THIS ARE ENVISIONED. AND AGAIN, AS THE PROJECT MATURES AND YOU SEE THE MULTIFAMILY COMING IN THAT YOU COULD THEN THE PROPOSAL IS TO PUT THIS IN THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD SECTIONS. OKAY. SO THE LAND CONTRIBUTION PLAN, THIS IS A BIG ONE FOR OUR TEAM. AND WHAT WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH CITY STAFF AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SEVERAL TIMES. WE'VE MET WITH THEM NUMEROUS TIMES TO GO THROUGH THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE 483 ACRES OF COMBINED GREEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE AND PARKLAND, AND THAT'S EXCLUDING THE 13.5 MILES OF TRAILS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD POCKET PARKS, WHICH ARE SHOWN IN YELLOW, SORRY, NEIGHBORHOOD POCKET PARKS ARE NOT SHOWN AT ALL. SO AS CHARLIE MENTIONED, WE ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE 67 ACRES OF PARKLAND. WE ARE CLEARLY PROVIDING WELL. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE THE TWO FIRE STATIONS. WE HAVE THE TRAIL SYSTEMS, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE TRANSMISSION MAIN, THE WATER STORAGE TANK, AND THEN THE TWO DONATED SCHOOL SITES. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS FOR THE OVERALL USE, THE TERM, YOU KNOW, SQUEEZE THE LEMON. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. WE HAD A COUPLE THOUSAND LOTS THAT WE ENDED UP DELETING OFF OF THE PROJECT FOR ALL THESE AMENITIES. SO THE CENTRAL PARK IS IS CENTRAL AND DEAR TO US WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSAL. WE'VE HAD STAFF OUT ON THE PROJECT. KEVIN LAZARUS ACTUALLY TOURED CITY ENVIRONMENTAL, CITY STAFF. THEY'VE GONE OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT THAT. WHERE THE YELLOW STAR IS, IS A PICTURE OF THIS POND THAT'S SHOWN OUT THERE. AT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. I MET WITH THE RANCH HAND, WHO ACTUALLY MANAGES THE PROJECT, AND HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THAT STOCKPILE. THERE ARE OTHER UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE WHICH THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IN ADDITION TO, OF COURSE, LIKE HERITAGE TREES, WHEN THEY COME AND THEY DO THE DESIGN FOR EACH ONE OF THE PHASE. SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TO EQUATE WHAT THAT 338 ACRES OF CENTRAL PARK MEANS 256 FOOTBALL FIELDS QUITE A BIT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY ASKED US FOR BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO ENVISION THAT MUCH ACREAGE AND WHERE THIS FLOWAGE EASEMENT IS AND HOW MUCH UPLANDS ACREAGE DO THEY HAVE AND WHAT CAN WE DO WITH IT. SO THIS WAS AN EXERCISE. THIS IS NOT BY ANY MEANS WHAT THE PARK LAND SCHEME WILL BE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THEY'LL TAKE IT FORWARD TO THE PARKS BOARD. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A REC CENTER UP IN THIS QUADRANT OF THE CITY. AND SO THAT LITTLE BLUE BOX THAT'S SHOWN RIGHT THERE, THAT'S 60,000 SQUARE FOOT REC CENTER. SO PLENTY OF SPACE TO BE ABLE TO PARK AROUND IT. THIS IS THAT VICINITY WHERE THE BIG CIRCLE WAS. IT SAYS 20 ACRES. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE FLOWAGE EASEMENT. SO THIS IS AN EXERCISE OF WHAT COULD BE WITHIN THERE. WE HAVE WE HAVE BALL FIELDS. WE HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER. WE HAVE THE REC CENTER, TRAILHEADS, TRAILS, EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT CENTRAL PARK AREA. THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF TRAILHEADS THAT WE HAD [00:25:04] SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORS. THIS IS YOUR STANDARD REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE THE HALF MILE WALKING RADIUS FOR ALL OF THOSE POCKET PARKS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROJECT IS LITTERED WITH IT, SO THE HOMES WILL NOT BE WITHOUT GREEN SPACE. THE MOBILITY PLAN. THIS IS ANOTHER APPLICATION THAT YOU ALL WILL BE APPROVING OR HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE. THE UPPER QUADRANT THERE SHOWS WHAT THE EXISTING THOROUGHFARE PLAN SHOWS, WHICH IS AGAIN A GRIDDED LINE AND WHAT IS IN THE LOWER EXHIBIT THERE SHOWS THE PIECE IN ORANGE IS THE ONLY PIECE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR VARIANCE BECAUSE IT FALLS WITHIN OUTSIDE OF THAT 1000 FOOT BUFFER THAT CODE ALLOWS. IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DEVIATE BEYOND THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR VARIANCE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT. AND THE REASON BEING IS BACK TO THIS PICTURE. AND THAT POND, THAT THOROUGHFARE GOES RIGHT THROUGH THERE. AND IT GOES THROUGH THE LONGEST PORTION OF THE CENTRAL PARK. SO IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT. SO STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. THESE ARE THE TYPICAL CROSS SECTIONS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IN HERE ARE THE SHARED PATH. USE TEN FOOT WIDE. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US NOT ONLY TO HAVE THESE POCKET PARKS THROUGHOUT THERE IN THE HALF MILE RADIUS, BUT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO IT. I SHARED AGAIN WITH THE NEIGHBORS. I USED TO BE A MARATHON RUNNER AND TRAIL RUNNER, AND I LIVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND I HAD TO. I HAD TO DRIVE AN HOUR TO FIND TRAILS TO RUN THAT KIND OF DISTANCE. SO IF I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO STEP OUTSIDE MY HOUSE AND TO BE ABLE TO GO RUN 13 MILES OUT AND BACK AND STILL BE IN MY COMMUNITY, I LOVE THAT. I HOPE THAT THE CITY STAFF DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT ALL PATHWAYS BE CONCRETE, BECAUSE FOR YOUR KNEES, IT'D BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME THAT HAVE DG OR SOMETHING ELSE IN ADDITION TO BRING INTO THE COMMUNITY YOUR EAGLE SCOUTS. WHAT ABOUT HAVING THEM HELP BUILD SOME OF THE TRAIL SYSTEMS THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? SO THESE SHARED PATH BIKE WAYS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY WILL LINK ALL THAT TRAIL SYSTEM. AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE THIS IS THE REASON AND THE BENEFIT FOR HAVING A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY AT YOUR NORTHERNMOST PORTION. IT'S YOUR BOOKEND. YOU'VE GOT A QUALITY PROJECT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR CITY OF DENTON DOWN HERE, ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THAT THESE THAT THE DEVELOPERS PUTTING IN THROUGH THE USE OF THE DISTRICT WILL BE THERE. WE'LL OPEN UP THE CORRIDOR AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE MANAGED GROWTH THROUGHOUT THAT. SO SMART GROWTH HEAVY ON GREEN SPACE BUILD OUT 5.1 BILLION. TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE 30.3 MILLION. TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY ANNUALLY 1.2 BILLION OVER THE LIFE, 7.5 MILLION FUNDING CONTRIBUTIONS. AND THEN ALL THESE LAND CONTRIBUTIONS. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS IN CLOSING. THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE FROM THE SITE. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE CITY OF DENTON TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY, AND THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE FURTHER SLIDES. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GET INTO DETAIL WITH REGARD TO TREES, TRAFFIC, WHATEVER, WE HAVE THOSE SLIDES AND WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH THAT. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE PRESENTERS AT THIS POINT? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> Y'ALL ARE CHICKEN FORCING ME TO GO FIRST. THAT'S FINE FOR A COUPLE. COUPLE UTILITARIAN QUESTIONS. LITERALLY. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. WHAT ARE THE OTHER UTILITIES FOR THIS AREA. >> JIM I'M GOING TO HAVE THE CIVIL ENGINEER COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT. >> I THINK OUR STAFF CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> YES. THE OTHER UTILITY WOULD BE ENCORE. >> ENCORE. >> YEAH. >> OKAY. THE. AND THEN. I THINK I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WHEN IT FLOATED UP FOR THE, THE CONCEPT ABOUT THE, THE MMD. WELL, I REMEMBER ASKING THAT MAYBE I DIDN'T AND THAT WAS WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF BEING RIGHT THERE BELOW A DAM FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE? NOT NOT OFF TO ONE SIDE, BUT LITERALLY BELOW THE DAM? DOES CAN ANYONE TALK TO THAT? >> YEAH, SO SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE FLOWAGE EASEMENT ACROSS THE PROPERTY. SO IF THE IF THE DAM WERE TO GO OVER, [00:30:06] THEN THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS THAT SPECIFIC FLOWAGE EASEMENT WHICH WOULD DIRECT THE FLOW OF WATER DOWN THAT AREA SO THAT THAT'S FROM THE DAM POINT ALL THE WAY SOUTH TOWARDS US 380 AND DOWN THE CLEAR CREEK. >> A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAD THAT RELATE TO AND I. AND I'M SORRY, I'VE FORGOTTEN YOUR NAME, I APOLOGIZE, BUT YOU MENTIONED AT THE OUTSIDE THAT IN CASE ANY OF YOU HAD SORT OF QUALMS ABOUT LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS ISN'T LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT? >> IT IS LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT. BUT THERE ARE REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THAT. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH. EVERYTHING ON THIS SLIDE. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE 2500 ACRES, THAT'S CONTIGUOUS, WELL PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE IS PAID FOR. THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. YOU HAVE A BOOKEND, YOU HAVE IT. YOU HAVE THAT TO THE NORTH, AND THEN YOU HAVE DENTON HERE AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEING INSTALLED AND CONSTRUCTED UP TO THIS CORRIDOR WILL THEN BE ABLE TO BACKFILL IN THE IN THE, IN BETWEEN THE BECAUSE WE HAVE A DISTRICT ON THERE THAT AFFORDS US TO BE ABLE TO REALLY MONETIZE THIS PROJECT. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY THEN WOULD FEEL LIKE, OKAY, WELL, NOW WE'VE GOT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRAILS TO SERVICE THIS 100 ACRES. THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST A BUNCH OF ROOFTOPS. RIGHT. SO ALL OF THIS LISTED ON THE SLIDE IS THE REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE YOU CAN YOU CAN SOUNDLY SAY TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THIS IS THE REASON WHY THIS MAKES SENSE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT ALLOWS YOU TO ALSO POINT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE. THIS IS THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE ABOUT OUR CITY AND WHAT THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED. >> IF I CAN JUST ADD. SURE. THANK YOU. YEAH. >> I THINK ALSO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER TOO, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2008, 2009 ANNEXED THIS PARTICULAR AREA FOR IT TO BE A PART OF THE CITY, KNOWING THAT THERE WOULD BE THIS ETJ OUTSIDE OF THE CITY SPACE IN BETWEEN. SO I THINK THE INTENTION AT THAT POINT WAS TO HAVE THIS AS PART OF THE CITY AND TO DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE. >> I RECALL IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY, BUT OKAY, THE. COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. I KNOW ENGINEERING WISE, OUR STANDARD IS THAT DRAINAGE AND OUTFLOWS, WHETHER WHETHER SURFACE WATER, STORMWATER OR WASTEWATER REALLY CAN'T EXCEED NOT WASTEWATER, BUT REALLY CAN'T EXCEED WHAT'S ALREADY ON THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A HIGH DEGREE OF DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE IN THIS REGION. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF WE OURSELVES RESISTED NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST THAT WANTED TO PUT IN A PACKAGE PLANT BECAUSE OF THE FLOW RATES THAT IT WOULD PUT ON THE CREEKS IN THIS REGION. CAN CAN I MEAN, I KNOW GENERALLY THE ANSWER WILL BE, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENGINEERING STANDARDS THAT PREVENT EXCESSIVE FLOW RATES, BUT IT'S AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREA, ESPECIALLY FROM THIS REGION DOWNSTREAM ALL THE WAY TO THE CONFLUENCE WITH THE REST OF THE BRANCHES OF THE TRINITY. SO CAN CAN SOMEONE DISCUSS THE IMPACTS OF FLOW RATE AND THE EXPANSION THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR THE CLEAR CREEK TREATMENT PLANT THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL FLOW FOR THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN THING. SO I KNOW THAT'S A BIG QUESTION. IT MIGHT BE A STEPHEN QUESTION, BUT BUT I'M BUT ANYONE CAN FEEL FREE TO ANSWER. BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF FLOW RATES ON THE DRAINAGE. >> YEAH. SO SO THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE KNEW WAS A TOPIC THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT. SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON A DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT. SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE LOOKING AT BOTH BASINS THAT THE THE PROPERTY IS DIVIDED INTO TWO BASINS THAT WILL HAVE FLOW GOING TO EACH CREEK. SO WE'RE ASSESSING THE IMPACT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE PROPOSING DETENTION ON SITE FOR THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD CONTAIN THOSE FLOWS AND KEEP THEM AT A PRE-DEVELOPMENT LEVEL. OH YEAH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BECK I'M JIM KNIGHT WITH CFM ENGINEERING. I [00:35:08] WANTED TO JUST HELP WITH THAT. I WANT TO CONTRADICT ONE OF THE SLIDE NUMBERS. WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING $16.6 MILLION TO BUILD A SEWER IMPROVEMENT SYSTEM FOR THE PROJECT. IT'S WE THERE'S TWO DRAINAGE BASINS FOR THE PROPERTY, ONE WEST AND ONE EAST. AND WE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF AND WORKED IN THE CITY'S OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH A PROPER PLAN FOR THE PROJECT. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE CONNECTING THOSE SYSTEMS FROM THE EAST AND THE WEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO CONFLUENCE NEAR THE THE OLD DON CARTER'S OLD RANCH, WHERE THE CITY IS PROPOSING THEIR NEW TRUNK SYSTEM TO BECOME THROUGH THAT FEEDS THE NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. WE HAVE DETAILED COORDINATION ON THOSE ITEMS. SO THOSE ARE COSTS BEING 100% BORNE BY THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL HELP THE CITY AS THE CITY GROWS IN THAT AREA TO DOESN'T JUST SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THAT'S FROM A FROM A WASTEWATER PERSPECTIVE. AND WE'VE WORKED INTENTLY AND WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE PLANNING STAFF. THAT'S THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS TO BUILD THOSE WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEMS. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS WE'RE WORKING ON BACKUP PLANS. IF THE CITY PROJECT IS DELAYED, WE'RE WORKING ON A BACKUP PLAN TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. SO WE DON'T CREATE A PROBLEM FOR THE CITY. FROM A DRAINAGE PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE DRAINAGE BASINS. YOU HAVE THE ONE THAT FLOWS FROM LAKE RAY ROBERTS, AND THERE IS THERE IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE BASIN COMPLETELY DOWNSTREAM ALL THE WAY TO LAKE LEWISVILLE, THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT, NOT FOR THE 100 YEAR STORM. THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT FOR THE 500 YEAR STORM THAT DRAINS ALL THE WAY FROM LAKE RAY ROBERTS, ALL THE WAY TO LAKE LEWISVILLE. AND SO WE ARE FULLY WITHIN THAT. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND DETENTION FOR THAT AREA, AND WE HAVE TO PROVE TO THE CITY STAFF THROUGH OUR ON SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE DO NOT EXCEED THOSE. AND SO WE'RE FULLY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS ON THE WESTERN PART OF THE PROPERTY. WE HAD ALREADY PROPOSED STORMWATER DETENTION IN THAT AREA. AND IT'S IT'S A VERY STEEP AREA THAT'S COLLECTED, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO MANAGE THAT STORMWATER FLOW VERY EASILY. BUT THE INTERESTING PART IS THAT'S PART OF THE THAT'S THE BIG PART OF THE CLEAR CREEK BASIN WHERE IT COMES IN THERE. SO THE CITY STAFF ASKED US TO DO A DRAINAGE ANALYSIS OF THE 200,000 ACRE DRAINAGE BASIN THAT DRAINS TO THAT AREA, AND WE PERFORMED THAT STUDY AND SHOWED THE CITY STAFF THAT WE HAVE NO IMPACT. MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE ACTUALLY THE ON SITE DETENTION WILL MAKE THAT SITUATION SLIGHTLY BETTER. SO WE HAVE PERFORMED MULTIPLE DRAINAGE STUDIES, MULTIPLE WATER AND WASTEWATER STUDIES TO PROVE ALL THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS. >> ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR PRO TEM, I JUST HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL PASS THE BATON. THE FIRST ONE IS I IN THE IN THE VARIOUS PD SORT OF SUB BASINS. AND ONE OF THE MAPS WE HAD A MIX OF USES. DO WE HAVE A FEEL. AND YOU KNOW THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE OVER TIME. I'M SURE WE HAVE A FEEL FOR, FOR HOW MUCH WILL BE FOR PURCHASE AND HOW MUCH WILL BE FOR RENT IN THE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL USES. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MORE OF A DEVELOPER QUESTION. >> WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY FOR RENT PRODUCT IN THE PROPOSAL OTHER THAN OTHER THAN MULTIFAMILY, OTHER THAN MULTIFAMILY. >> OKAY. AND THE MULTIFAMILY WAS. >> 1500 UNITS. SO FOR FOUR DIFFERENT DEALS, PROBABLY. >> OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS THE LAST QUESTION FOR STAFF. AND THAT WAS. UNDERSTANDABLY THIS PROJECT IS FOCUSED ON WHAT'S IN THEIR BOUNDARIES AND A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPILLING OVER INTO INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE. AND IT'S PART OF THE REASON I ASKED THE LEAPFROG QUESTION IS THE REASON WE DON'T LIKE WE GENERALLY FROWN ON I SHOULDN'T SAY WE GENERALLY DEVELOPMENT FROWNS ON LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE IT DOES FORCE BACKFILL. ONCE YOU HAVE THE TWO BOOKENDS RATHER THAN A FEATURE, THAT'S A BUG. AND I KNOW WE FOCUSED IN THE QUESTIONS TO STAFF. WHAT WERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS FOR THE PARCEL. BUT CAN CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT, CHARLIE, ABOUT IF THIS GOES FORWARD WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS ARE ON THE PIECE. THAT WOULD BE IN BETWEEN THE THE THE LEAP OVER PIECE AND WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED NEEDS FOR THE CITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT. >> SO SO THE THE PIECE BETWEEN OUR CITY BOUNDARY AND THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY IS [00:40:03] ALL WITHIN THE ETJ AND DENTON COUNTY. THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE THAT WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE LINE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO INCLUDE THERE. NOW, IF WE DID GET SO, SO HAVING ACCESSIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE DOES MAKE IT MORE LIKELY THAT IF SOMEBODY WERE TO COME IN THE FUTURE AND SEEK TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN BETWEEN US AND THE CITY'S NORTHERN BOUNDARY AND CRAVER RANCH, THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AT THAT TIME. BUT AT THIS POINT, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD ONLY BE THAT WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT WOULD BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. >> AND I KNOW FOR 28, I'M SORRY, THERE'S A FOLLOW UP. THANK THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR FORBEARANCE, MAYOR PRO TEM. BUT FOR 28 IS A TXDOT ROAD, NOT OURS OUTSIDE THE LOOP. BUT WE DO HAVE THIS SORT OF I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT STRICT ZONING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REALLY QUITE WHAT IT IS, BUT THAT NECK OF CITY PROPERTY THAT ENDS UP OUT THERE THAT FOLLOWS FOR 28, WE'RE WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EXPANSION AND NEEDS AND, AND AND MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE PIECE THAT WE OWN. BECAUSE AS 9000 HOMES COME INTO THAT REGION AND THEY WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO DENTON RATHER THAN BE ON THE EDGE OF DENTON, GO THROUGH THAT LEAP OVER REGION. WHAT DO WE ENVISION THAT THAT IMPACT IS TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS? >> YEAH, THAT AREA THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING IS STILL WITHIN A IT'S A TXDOT ROADWAY. SO FOR 28 2153, THOSE ARE BOTH TXDOT ROADWAYS. NOW, THE DEVELOPER DID DO A TRAFFIC DEMAND MODELING, WHICH IS A LARGE SCALE MODELING OF THE TRAFFIC FOR THE SITE. AND THE CAPACITY OF THOSE ROADWAYS IS 21,000 TRIPS A DAY. AND SO THAT THE. OH. OKAY. THANK YOU ALEXA. YEP. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE PROJECTED TRIPS I THINK THIS NEXT ONE, THIS IS THE PROJECTED TRIPS AT DEVELOPMENT. SO THE THE TRIPS THE ROADWAYS THAT EXIST OUT THERE TODAY CAN SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THE DEVELOPER WOULD WOULD ISSUE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WITH EACH PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WOULD NEED TO COORDINATE WITH EITHER DENTON COUNTY OR TXDOT ON THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. >> ALL RIGHT. HEY EVERYONE. I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. I'LL PASS THE BATON BACK TO MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> CAN I ADD ONE THING? >> SURE. WELL, I SHOULD I SHOULD SAY MAYOR PRO TEM. >> CHAIR, YOU MAY SPEAK. OKAY. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT YOU WON'T SEE AS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BACKFILL THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED IS IF YOU GO SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY, A VERY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE AREA IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY IN THE TOWN, IN HARLEY FIELDS, IS FLOODPLAIN. THAT CLEAR CREEK BASIN COMES THROUGH THERE, AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT LAND IS FLOODPLAIN THAT WILL PREVENT FUTURE BACKFILL TO CREATE THE DENSITY. TO PREVENT THE DENSITY THERE'S CONCERNED ABOUT. >> ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE AND THEN DISTRICT. >> FOUR. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. REALLY. I NOTICED YOU HAD SOMETHING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE, $3 MILLION GOING TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. TELL ME WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND WHEN DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY WITH DEVELOPING THIS. IS IT GOING TO BE A FILL IN MULTIFAMILY? HOW DOES THAT LOOK TO A LARGE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS. >> YEAH. SO SO THAT'S PART OF THE OPERATING AGREEMENT FOR OPERATING AS PART OF THE AGREEMENTS FOR THE PROJECT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH HUNTER AND COLE RANCHES. SO THAT'S JUST A $3 MILLION CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS. IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE SITE ITSELF, BUT JUST THE FUNDING CONTRIBUTION BY THE DEVELOPMENT TO ASSIST THE CITY IN THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS. >> DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU. I GUESS FOR THE DEVELOPER. I BEG YOUR PARDON. YOUR NAME AGAIN. ALEXA KNIGHT. ALEXA. THANK YOU. THREE. THREE SCHOOLS, TWO SCHOOL DISTRICTS. TELL ME HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN. YOU'VE GOT TWO ELEMENTARY AND ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL. WHO'S WHO. >> EASTERN SIDE DENTON. WESTERN SIDE IS SANGER. >> SO IS THAT IS THAT A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN DENTON OR FOUR DENTON. DENTON. >> SEE THE LITTLE, LITTLE SCHOOL SITES UP THERE. SO ELEMENTARY. AND MIDDLE. >> ELEMENTARY. >> IS YOUR POINTER WORKING? I CAN'T. >> SEE IT HERE. LET ME DO THIS. >> YOU CAN JUST POINT TO IT IF YOU'D LIKE TO. I'M AN OLD FASHIONED GUY. MR. SANGER. >> ELEMENTARY PHASE ONE IS IMPORTANT DEVELOPER TO HAVE SCHOOL SITES CENTRALLY LOCATED. EACH ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SITES IS CENTRALLY LOCATED, NOT JUST OFF TO THE SIDE. SO THERE'S THOUGHT ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ROADWAY NETWORK AROUND IT THAT [00:45:01] WILL BE ANALYZED IN EACH ONE OF THE PHASES. BUT HERE'S A PHASE ONE. AND THEN UP THERE WOULD BE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE TOGETHER. >> AND THE LOWER ONE IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL. >> YOU HAVE TO SAY ON THE MIC OR WE CAN'T. >> OH. >> I'M SORRY. >> COULD YOU POINT FOR ME? >> YEAH I DID. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO SO THAT IS THAT IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THAT'S A DENTON ISD SCHOOL. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND NOW. >> DENTON ISD UP HERE ALSO, AND THAT IS ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE OKAY. >> SO IS THAT FOR SCHOOLS? >> YES. >> YES FOR SCHOOLS OKAY OKAY. GOOD. 358 ACRE PARK. TELL ME WHAT THAT COMPARES TO IN DENTON. DO WE HAVE A DO WE HAVE A PARK THAT SIZE. HERE I WAS LOOKING I WAS LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR YOU. YOU. >> YEAH. IT'S IN BETWEEN SOUTH LAKES AND NORTH LAKES PARK. >> OKAY. WHICH IS THE BIGGER NORTH LAKES? NORTH LAKES OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THE SIZE OF HOMES. AND I KNOW THAT'S DEPENDENT UPON THE FRONTAGE BUT BUT WHAT SIZE ARE THE ARE THE HOUSES. >> WE DON'T KNOW THAT QUITE YET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL LOTTING PLAN RIGHT NOW WHAT THE ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR. OR 40 FOOT FRONT, 50, 60 AND 70 FOOT FRONTAGE. >> OKAY, OKAY. TWO FIRE STATIONS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I LOOKED EVERYWHERE. >> SHOWN IN BLUE SQUARES RIGHT HERE. >> I SEE. >> OKAY, PERFECT. AND DID YOU MENTION A POLICE STATION? >> YES. >> SO. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TWO FIRE STATIONS ON THE SITE. THE POLICE WOULD HAVE THEY WOULD CO-LOCATE WITH THE FIRE STATION. SO IN SOME OF OUR MORE RECENT DESIGN FOR FIRE STATIONS, WE'RE ALLOWING SPACE FOR POLICE TO BE HOUSED WITHIN THAT FIRE STATION. SO WE WOULD PROPOSE THE SAME ON THIS SITE. >> SO NOT THE KIND OF OPERATION THAT WE HAVE ON VINTAGE. >> NO. >> SIR, NOTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY, OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM 6 OR 5? SIX REPRESENTATIVE FROM PLACE SIX. >> THANK YOU. HI. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS INFORMATION. AND IT'S ALL BEEN SO VERY HELPFUL. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE FIRE STATIONS. IS THAT ONE IN THE CITY OF SANGER AND ONE IN THE CITY OF DENTON? >> NO, MA'AM. THIS IS ALL WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. SO? SO WE DID HAVE A SPLIT WHERE THE ISD'S ARE. SO PART OF THIS IS IN SANGER ISD AND PART IS IN DENTON ISD, BUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. >> OKAY, OKAY. >> AND DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGES ARE AS FAR AS THE MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO MULTIFAMILY, BY ANY CHANCE? I KNOW THE I THINK YOU'VE GIVEN US THE NUMBERS. SOMETHING LIKE 1500 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. AND IS IT SOMETHING LIKE 7000? >> YEAH. SO SO IT'S HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S 7000 TOTAL SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, 584 TOWNHOMES AND 1500 MULTIFAMILY. >> GREAT. >> THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FOR PLACE FIVE. >> THANK YOU. >> VERY MUCH. SO. 358 ACRES OF OF OF SPACE DEDICATED BACK TO THE CITY. RIGHT. OVERALL, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE HOW MUCH OF THAT IS IN THE CITY VERSUS IN SANGER, OR IS THAT ONLY THE DENTON PORTION THAT 358 ACRES OF PARKS BEING DEDICATED BACK TO US? >> IT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. >> SO THAT'S ALL. >> YES, YES. SO THAT 358 ACRES. SO THE ENTIRE SITE IS, IS CITY WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. AND THAT 358 ACRES IS THE CENTRAL PARK HERE ON THE THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, ALL WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. >> SO WITH THE ADDITION OF OF OVER 13 MILES OF TRAILS, WHAT WILL THAT DO TO OUR OVERALL TRAIL SYSTEM AT FULL BUILD OUT? >> I'LL LET GARY ANSWER THAT. >> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN. >> WITH THE ADDITION OF 13 MILES OF TRAILS? WHAT WILL THAT DO TO OUR OVERALL CITY TRAIL SYSTEM? >> WELL, IT PROBABLY PUT US GETTING CLOSE TO 100 BY THE TIME THAT'S BUILT, PLUS THE SIDE PASS AS WELL. SO THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THE 13. SO THAT'D BE A A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT BEING ADDED TO OUR TRAIL SYSTEM. OBVIOUSLY, WE'D HAVE TO CONNECT OUR MAIN CITY TO IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME. >> SURE. OKAY. I GUESS I'LL, I'LL SAY I THINK I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS, IS THE THE AMOUNT OF TOWNHOMES THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING, THAT'S THAT MISSING MIDDLE THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT, WE'RE IN NEED OF. THAT'S WHAT AFFORDABILITY IS TODAY. SO DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT THE ADDITION OF TOWNHOMES HOPEFULLY DEFINITELY FOR SALE FOR FOR [00:50:03] FUTURE AND CURRENT RESIDENTS COMING TO THE CITY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR, I SHOULD SAY. >> ALL GOOD. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME YOU ALL HAVE PUT INTO IT. I'M SEEING A LOT OF GREAT STUFF. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS STARTING WITH WHAT MAKES IT SMART GROWTH. SO WE'VE HEARD THE PHRASE A COUPLE TIMES AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOME PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT, IN THIS CASE, WHAT SMART GROWTH MEANS. >> SMART GROWTH TO US MEANS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. SO WITH THE 2500 ACRES, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS ANNEXED BACK IN OH EIGHT AND OH NINE. SO IT IS PLANNED TO BE PART OF THE CITY. AND FROM A DEVELOPER FOR MANY MOONS NOW. AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO HAVE CRITICAL MASS WHEN YOU HAVE SMALLER DEALS. AND 100 ACRES SOUNDS LIKE A BIG DEAL, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE THAT SENSE OF PLACE. SO THE SMART GROWTH COMPONENT IS HERE FOR THE CITY IS YOU HAVE, AGAIN, 2500 ACRES THAT'S IN YOUR CITY. AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE. YOUR NEIGHBOR, OUR NEIGHBORS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE. SO YOU HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT LAND USES FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL, AND IT'S THEN IT'S ON AUTOPILOT, RIGHT? THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY APPROVED. THEY HAVE TO COME IN ON EVERY PHASE AND THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ABIDE BY THE THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA, OF COURSE. AND BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE WORRY IS OFF, OFF YOUR SHOULDERS. RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT A DISTRICT THAT'S OUT HERE. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST CHURNING AND IT'S JUST IT'S IT'S DEVELOPING. AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN, THE BENEFIT OF HAVING SOMETHING THIS LARGE AND A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO STRIVE FOR IS TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE TOWNHOMES, THE MULTIFAMILY, THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SINGLE FAMILY SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE UP AS YOU AS YOU AGE. AND SO YOU'RE GRADUATED. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS REALLY EXCITED FOR, I SPOKE, I HEARD A SESSION WITH REGARD TO TEXAS, THE TEXAS STOCK EXCHANGE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DIDN'T TOUCH ON WAS THE SMART GROWTH PART. THIS TIES ALL TIES TOGETHER IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. LET'S LET'S LOOK AT MACRO DEVELOPMENT WITH REGARD TO OUR NATION. AND YOU LOOK AT THE COASTS. IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE TO HAVE YOUR BUSINESSES THERE. IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE TO LIVE THERE. PICK ON CALIFORNIA. IT'S A GREAT STATE, BEAUTIFUL WEATHER BUT IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE. SO YOU HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE NOW COMING TO TEXAS. GREAT FOR OUR KIDS BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING BACK, RIGHT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE JOBS HERE. AND SO NOW WHERE IS THAT PATH OF GROWTH? WELL, NORTH DENTON IS IN PART OF THAT PATH OF GROWTH. AND SO IF YOU ARE ABLE TO APPROVE A PLAN LIKE THIS, WHERE YOU HAVE, AGAIN, THAT 2500 ACRES THAT'S PLANNED, THEN YOU'RE SET AND YOU'RE READY. SO AS THAT GROWTH COMES IN, YOUR CITY IS SET, UTILITIES ARE SET, THE PLANNING IS SET, THE HOMES ARE THERE. >> APPRECIATE THAT. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR STAFF. WHY DID DENTON ID THIS IN THE FLUME AS AG WHEN WE ANNEXED IT IN 2008? AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE HERE, IF ANYBODY IN THE ROOM. >> YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE STANDARD ZONING THAT WE HAVE WHEN SOMEONE COMES INTO THE PROPERTY. I THINK IT WAS RR ORIGINALLY, AND THEN WE TRANSFERRED THE ZONING OVER. AND SO WHEN THE PROPERTY IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THAT'S THE THE TYPICAL CONSIDERATION THAT IT GETS WHEN IT COMES IN. AND SO A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN COUNCIL SEES THAT TYPE OF ZONING OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT COME FORWARD, THAT'S BECAUSE WE ANNEXED THAT PROPERTY AT SOME TIME, NEVER DEVELOPED. AND NOW SOMEBODY IS BRINGING FORWARD SOMETHING TO DEVELOP. >> WE UPDATED THE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND WAS IT 2021 ISH? >> YEAH. >> 22 PRETTY. >> RECENTLY WAY, WAY AFTER 2008. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE KEPT IT. AG DID WE WANT IT TO STAY AG OR WHY WOULD WE MARK THAT AS AG? >> YEAH, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH MORE DETAIL ON THAT ONE OKAY. AND LET YOU KNOW. >> OKAY. >> AND THEN THIS IS A REALLY BIG QUESTION. WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A COMP PLAN. JUST VERY AS BRIEFLY AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY EXPLAIN IT. >> YEAH. >> OR ANYBODY IN THE ROOM. >> YEAH I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE'RE LAYING OUT THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY IN THIS. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SO THAT YOU HAVE USES WHERE THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE, SO THAT IT GIVES SOME CONSIDERATION TO CITY COUNCIL. WHEN YOU SEE A ZONING CHANGE, LIKE, SHOULD THIS MORE INTENSE USE BE ON THIS CORRIDOR. AND THEN WHERE, WHERE DOES THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS FIT? AND SO THAT THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE COMP PLAN IS TO GIVE SOME GUIDANCE WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING ZONING REQUESTS. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. AND THEN WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH I KNOW WE [00:55:02] UPDATED AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAST TIME. >> YEAH. SO SIMILARLY SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS A COMPONENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN GENERAL. AND TO GUIDE THOSE ZONING REQUESTS. >> OKAY. >> AND THEN DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE DOES DENTON ACTUALLY HAVE A SAY OVER KIND OF WHERE WE GROW AND HOW. SO YOU KNOW WE DO THE WE DO THE COMP PLAN AND WE DO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THEN WE CHANGE THEM, YOU KNOW, SHORTLY AFTER. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, I GUESS THE OVERALL PROCESS HERE OF DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANY SAY OVER HOW WE GROW AND WHERE THAT HAPPENS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OR HOW MUCH? SAY. >> YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE IT COMES BEFORE THIS BOARD. THEN THERE'S DEFINITELY SAYING HOW DENTON GROWS AND WHAT CONSIDERATIONS CITY COUNCIL WEIGHS WHEN YOU SEE A ZONING REQUEST OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT COME BEFORE YOU. >> I APPRECIATE IT. >> ONLY OTHER THING I'LL SAY, AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO RESOLVE IT. IN THIS MEETING. I DIDN'T REALLY GET TO SEE ALL OF THE NUMBERS FOR THIS UNTIL LAST NIGHT. AND LAST NIGHT WAS MY ANNIVERSARY, SO WE WENT OUT TO EAT, SO I WAS A LITTLE OCCUPIED. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> BUT SO I DIDN'T GET TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS LIKE I WOULD LIKE RIGHT NOW, THE THE LONG TERM NUMBERS AREN'T CLICKING TO ME YET. I HAVE CONCERN OVER THE LONG RUN THAT IT WILL, THAT THIS WILL BRING IN ENOUGH REVENUE TO BE FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG RUN, SO THAT WE'RE NOT PASSING OFF A BIG FINANCIAL BURDEN TO OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS. SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE KIND OF EXPERIENCING SOME OF THAT OF MAYBE WE BUILT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE THAN OUR TAX REVENUE IS CAN SUPPORT AT THIS TIME. RIGHT. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT TO FUTURE RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING I'LL, I GUESS, WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH STAFF AT SOME POINT TO REALLY DIG INTO THE NUMBERS AFTER I HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD. BUT THE TOTAL REVENUE I SAW, EVEN IF 100% OF OF THE AD VALOREM AND THE DEBT SERVICE WENT TO REPLACING THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT IT TO ME IT APPEARS THAT IT BARELY COVERS THE COST. AND THAT'S MOST OF OUR AD VALOREM TAXES GOES TO FIRE AND POLICE. IT GOES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T MOST OF IT DOES NOT GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE. SO JUST TRYING TO MAKE THOSE NUMBERS CLEAR, I'M STILL NOT FEELING VERY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT I'M SEEING. SO HOPEFULLY I CAN MEET WITH STAFF AT SOME POINT TO REALLY DIG INTO THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BOG US DOWN HERE. >> YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO. >> ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE IT. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I YOU KNOW, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP FROM MAYOR PRO TEM COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THE BACKUP. THE I, I SHARE THE RESPONSES IN THE BACKUP, I SHARE THE CONCERNS. AND IT WENT TO A LOT OF MY LEAPFROG QUESTIONS THAT WERE THIS, I MEAN, MAGICALLY, IF THIS DEVELOPMENT WERE CLOSER AND MORE FOLLOWED, THE CENTRALIZED BULLSEYE KIND OF CONCEPT PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAPS THAT THAT WE'VE APPROVED, I THINK THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO DO A LOT RIGHT. SO I WANT TO GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THAT. BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND THE REPLACEMENT COSTS AFTER FULL ROLLOUT, SIMILAR TO MAYOR PRO TEM QUESTION THAT THAT I'D LIKE FINANCING AND DEVELOPMENT TO GET TOGETHER AND MAYBE WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND GIVE US SOME NUMBERS ABOUT HOW THIS AND IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE VEIN OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT SHE ASKED BEFORE COUNCIL. HOW IS THIS GOING TO NOT CREATE A BIG BOLUS OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS SHORTLY AFTER FULL BUILDOUT? I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPERS FOR FOOTING THE BILL FOR THE INITIAL ROLLOUT, BUT WE DON'T NEED A BURST OF SUDDEN INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE DON'T WANT TO DO LEAPFROG DEVELOPMENT. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD GET SOME CLARITY ON THOSE LONG TERM COSTS, I WOULD LOVE THAT. AND TO SOME EXTENT, TO THE EXTENT I'M EXTREMELY NERVOUS ABOUT THE, THE THE ELM FORK BOTTOM, THE CLEAR CREEK AREA, THE OUTER LOOP, THAT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY, THE ALL THE DRAINAGES UP AND DOWN THE CLEAR CREEK AND ANCILLARY DRAINAGES. AND THE I COULD IF STAFF AND THE ENGINEERING, WHETHER FROM THE DEVELOPERS OR OUR OWN ENGINEERING FIRMS, COULD, COULD GET ME A LITTLE FLOW RATES AND THE IMPACT ON THESE SENSITIVE ECOLOGICAL REGIONS THAT START IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THIS REGION OF FLOW DOWN THAT I HAVE. I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. AND AND YES, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION OR MY QUESTION EARLIER, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR 28. AS THIS BODY BUT AS A COMMUNITY [01:00:03] WITH, WITH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE. WE ARE THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE. THIS IS WHERE WE DRIVE. WE GO BACK AND FORTH AND WRIT LARGE. IT IS WE ARE TRYING TO SQUEEZE A LOT ON FOR 28. SO I'D LOVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AGAIN FROM THE COHORT OF OF FOLKS ABOUT THAT. I'VE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE MY MAJOR CONCERNS GOING FORWARD. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO. >> TEM. >> I SAW THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR. PLACE FIVE. >> THANK YOU. JUST A QUESTION ON ON TIMING PENDING ALL THIS GOES ON THE SCHEDULE THAT THAT YOU LAID OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WHAT ARE WE TALKING TIMING BEFORE SHOVELS START GETTING IN THE GROUND. AND I'M ASKING BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS AND THE PUSHBACKS ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE AROUND TOWN. >> YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD START, BUT THEY EXPECT TO HAVE FIRST HOMES IN 2028, SO I IMAGINE THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD START SOMETIME IN 2027. ONE MORE. OKAY, SO THEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD START IN 2028, FIRST HOMES IN 2029. >> OKAY. AND WITH THE NUMBER OF PHASES, TALK ME THROUGH WHAT IT'S LIKE WITH THE PROJECT OF THIS OF THIS SIZE. DOES CONSTRUCTION HAPPEN MULTIPLE PHASES AT A TIME OR ARE WE LITERALLY GOING PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE. WE'RE DOING MULTIPLE PHASES AT A TIME. YES, YES. >> YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE TRICKY QUESTION RIGHT. SO THE PHASING PLAN THAT'S SHOWN HERE, WE HAVE 20 SOME ODD PHASES. AND TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE WE WOULD START IN THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER HERE. THIS WOULD BE OUR PHASE ONE. BUT IT'S ALL MARKET DRIVEN. WHAT IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WANTS THIS BECAUSE OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE, BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO WASTEWATER BASED. WE HAVE, AS JIM SAID, WE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WASTEWATER BASINS, BUT THE WASTEWATER IS COMING UP TO THE SITE. BUT THAT'S THE BALANCING ACT THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO HAS TO MANAGE WITH REGARD TO, TO HOME BUILDERS AND MARKET DEMAND. BUT THE PLAN IS TO START ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AND BUILD OUT AND UP AND BUILD WEST. >> MR. MCGEE. COUNCILMEMBER MCGEE, I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE BROKEN THE PROJECT INTO 27 PHASES, BUT THAT'S PRIMARILY FOR US JUST TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLAN FOR THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, PRIMARILY THAT THAT WHAT ALEXA SAID IS EXACTLY RIGHT. WE COULD SEE THIS GOING MUCH FASTER, BUT WE'VE CURRENTLY PLANNED FOR FULL BUILD OUT 17 YEARS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE QUITE A WHILE. THIS WE'RE WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIAL. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THIS THAT EXISTS IN DENTON. NOTHING I CAN SHOW YOU PROJECTS THAT I'VE DESIGNED IN MY 44 YEARS THAT ARE LIKE THIS. AND THEY TAKE TIME. AND WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS AND BEAUTIFUL. IF DONE RIGHT, THE MAINTENANCE COST IS EXTRAORDINARILY MINIMAL PER THE EMAIL RESPONSES THAT WE PROVIDED YESTERDAY. THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD UP IN FRONT OF OTHER DEVELOPERS AND SAY, YOU HAVE TO BEAT THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT TODAY. THIS WILL BE THAT STANDARD THAT YOU CAN HOLD UP AND SAY, IF YOU CAN BEAT THIS, WE'LL TALK TO YOU, OKAY? >> THANK YOU, MR. KNIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> MAYOR. >> YES, SIR. PLEASE. YES. >> YOU'RE GOING TO HATE THE WAY I PHRASED THIS QUESTION. >> DOUG. >> COLLEY AT. AT WHAT POINT IS THE GRUMBLING GOING TO START? AT WHAT POINT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO SAY THE, THE, THE 428 ISN'T, ISN'T ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT WHETHER IT IS OR NOT. WHAT AT WHAT POINT IS THAT GOING TO BE? IS THAT GOING TO BE 27. >> YEAH. SO SO LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY'VE DONE THEIR TRAFFIC DEMAND MODELING. OUR STAFF HAS REVIEWED THAT MODELING. AND IT SHOWS THAT THE TRAFFIC DEMAND CAN SUPPORT. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BECK HAD A QUESTION FOR A FOLLOW UP. SO I TOOK THAT DOWN AS A NOTE. SO WE'LL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK LOOKS LIKE. OUR STAFF COORDINATES WITH TXDOT MONTHLY, SO WE HAVE MONTHLY CALLS WITH TXDOT. YEAH. AND SO AND SO WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION AND KNOWING THAT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS COMING NORTH. YOU KNOW WE HAVE TIME TO PLAN FOR THAT AS THIS THING BUILDS OUT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, 20 PLUS YEARS TO COORDINATE THOSE EFFORTS. AND WE DID HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY OR THEY HELD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. AND SO AS FAR AS THE GRUMBLINGS GO, IT [01:05:05] WAS WELL ATTENDED, BUT THERE WASN'T THAT MUCH ANIMOSITY AT THE MEETINGS. I THINK PEOPLE GENERALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AREA. THEY KNEW IT WAS PART OF THE CITY. >> I PUT ON A BICYCLE RALLY OUT IN THAT IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD, EVERY, EVERY SATURDAY BEFORE, BEFORE THANKSGIVING. AND I JUST AT SOME POINT THIS WILL TERMINATE. IT'S OKAY, BUT IT WILL TERMINATE THE BICYCLE RALLY OUT THERE. >> HOW MANY YEARS? >> HOW MANY YEARS? 43 YEARS. AND AND THIS WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL JUST BE TOO MANY, TOO MANY CARS TO TO TO DO THIS. SO I JUST WONDERED JUST WONDERED. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL APPRECIATE IT CHARLIE AND ALEXA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE ITEM B ID 25-1651. RECEIVE A REPORT AND HOLD A DISCUSSION ON BECOMING AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE, INCLUDING A BENEFIT SPOTLIGHT ON UPDATES FOR THE UPCOMING 2026 PLAN YEAR. >> ALL RIGHT, HERE. >> WE GO. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> LOOK. >> HI THERE. HOW ARE YOU? >> ALL? YOU. >> RIGHT? [B. Receive a report and hold a discussion on Becoming an Employer of Choice including a benefits spotlight on updates for the upcoming 2026 plan year. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]] >> WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. >> WHENEVER I'M READY. YES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON. MEGAN GILBREATH, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. I'M ALSO JOINED TODAY WITH A FEW OF MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE HR DEPARTMENT WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO A LOT OF THE SUCCESSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY AS A PART OF COUNCIL'S KEY FOCUS AREA TO PURSUE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND COLLABORATIVE AND RESPECTFUL LEADERSHIP, STAFF HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON A MULTI-YEAR PLAN TO BECOME AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. THIS PRESENTATION HIGHLIGHTS POSITIVE PROGRESS AND ACHIEVEMENTS ACROSS KEY INITIATIVES CONTRIBUTING TO THIS STRATEGY, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, TOTAL REWARDS, ENHANCEMENTS AND TALENT ACQUISITIONS AND THE PROMOTION OF A SAFE AND HEALTHY WORKFORCE. A PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ON THE FISCAL YEAR 26 OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD AND THE MODERNIZATION OF THE CITY'S MEDICAL PLAN OFFERINGS. OVER THE PAST THREE FISCAL YEARS, STAFF HAS IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL INITIATIVES SUPPORTING CITY COUNCIL'S KEY FOCUS. IN THE SUMMER OF 2023, WE COMPLETED THE COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY, WHICH CITY COUNCIL COMMITTED ABOUT $8 MILLION TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE ESTABLISHING MARKET ALIGNMENT FOR EMPLOYEE SALARIES. THIS WAS ABOUT A 13% ADJUSTMENT PER EMPLOYEE TO THEIR COMPENSATION PRIOR TO 2023. THIS, THE LAST STUDY CONDUCTED, WAS IN 2016 AND WAS ONLY ABOUT $100,000 INVESTMENT. TOTAL REWARDS HAS WORKED ON NEGOTIATING APPROXIMATELY $500,000 IN CONTRACT SAVINGS, AND THEN REDUCED IT EXPECTED REDUCED EXPECTED PRESCRIPTION EXPENSES BY APPROXIMATELY 3.4 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS IN THE TALENT ACQUISITION SPACE. TIME TO FILL IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DAYS IT TAKES TO FILL AN OPEN POSITION. FROM THE TIME A JOB REQUISITION IS POSTED THROUGH THE ACCEPTANCE OF AN OFFER IN EARLY 2023, THIS AVERAGE DAYS WAS ABOUT 125 OVER 125 DAYS FOR US TO FILL A POSITION. WE ARE CURRENTLY SITTING AT AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 35 DAYS TO FILL A POSITION. FROM THE TIME THE REQUISITION IS POSTED THROUGH AN OFFER BEING ACCEPTED, ACCORDING TO NEOGOV, WHICH IS OUR HR PLATFORM, THE AVERAGE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR IS ABOUT 119 DAYS. IN FISCAL YEAR 2025, STAFF LAUNCHED A COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY PROGRAM TO STRENGTHEN PREVENTION AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN A REDUCTION IN MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS YEAR OVER YEAR BY 14%. OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, WE'LL CONTINUE REVISING AND IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS WHILE MAINTAINING BEST IN CLASS PROGRAMS AND POLICIES SUPPORTING THE CITY'S EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. FOCUS. THE ITEMS THAT ARE BOLDED ON THE SCREEN ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 26. TOTAL REWARDS WILL FOCUS ON [01:10:01] MODERNIZING THE MEDICAL PLAN OFFERINGS, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE SHORTLY. WE'LL REDUCE OUR VISION RATES, AND THEN WE'LL IMPLEMENT OTHER TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO ENSURE CONTINUED FORWARD PROGRESS. TALENT ACQUISITION WILL CONTINUE THEIR FOCUS ON ENHANCING THE CANDIDATE EXPERIENCE, AND CONTINUE THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH MARCUM TO PROMOTE A STRONG EMPLOYER BRAND. AND LASTLY, THE SAFETY PROGRAM WILL CONTINUE BUILDING ON ITS FOUNDATIONAL DEVELOPMENT BY REVIEWING THE SAFETY POLICIES AND ENSURING A ROBUST, ROBUST SAFETY MANUAL IS DEVELOPED. NEXT, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH A BRIEF BENEFITS SPOTLIGHT AND SHARE WHAT TO EXPECT FOR THE CITY'S MEDICAL PLANS IN THE 2026 PLAN YEAR WITHOUT ANY PLAN CHANGES, FISCAL YEAR 26 EXPENSES WERE PROJECTED TO INCREASE BY 9.6% COMPARED TO FISCAL YEAR 25. WITH THE PROPOSED PLAN CHANGES, EXPENSES ARE NOW PROJECTED TO INCREASE 3.1%. WE SHOULD ALWAYS EXPECT TO SEE SOME SORT OF INCREASE. IT'S JUST HOW WE MITIGATE THOSE INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR. BOTH CITY AND NATIONAL TREND ARE PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY OUR GLP ONE DRUGS, WHICH IS YOUR DIABETES MANAGEMENT, YOUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, WHICH IS YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND YOUR LIFESTYLE MANAGEMENT. THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD SPEND. AND THEN HIGHER UTILIZATION OF IN AND OUTPATIENT CARE, MEDICAL COSTS. GROWTH IS EXPECTED TO REACH ITS HIGHEST LEVEL IN 13 YEARS. SO WITHOUT THE MODERNIZATION OF THE PLANS, EMPLOYEE PAYCHECK DEDUCTIONS WOULD HAVE INCREASED 18 TO 24%. WITH THE MODERNIZATION, CONTRIBUTIONS WILL DECREASE BY UP TO 15%, WITH A COUPLE OF MINOR INCREASES UP TO 2.9%. AND THE PLAN IS ACTUALLY A COMBINATION OF OUR CURRENT GOLD AND SILVER PLANS. IT'S GOING TO BE THE TRADITIONAL EPO HAS DEDUCTIBLES, CO-PAYS, AND IT WILL HAVE A 15% EMPLOYEE COST SHARE. THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE OUR MODERNIZED APPROACH TO HEALTH CARE. IT ACTUALLY WILL NOT HAVE A DEDUCTIBLE. IT WILL HAVE COPAY RANGES. ULTIMATELY, THE HIGHER QUALITY PROVIDER THAT YOU SELECT IS THE LOWER COST THAT YOU WOULD EXPERIENCE AT THE TIME OF CARE. AND THIS WILL HAVE AN 8% EMPLOYEE COST SHARE. BOTH PLANS WILL HAVE LOWER PAID PAYCHECK DEDUCTIONS, AND THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO FREE PREVENTATIVE CARE, AS WELL AS FREE ACCESS TO THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CENTER. SO NEXT STEPS. OPEN ENROLLMENT WILL BE HELD FROM NOVEMBER 3RD TO NOVEMBER 14TH. WE WILL BEGIN DISTRIBUTING COMMUNICATION MATERIAL TOMORROW, AND THEN FROM THERE, STAFF WILL CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN THROUGH OPEN ENROLLMENT AND INTO THE START OF NEXT YEAR. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. >> COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO. >> GO BACK TO THE LAST. THE NEXT ONE. OAKLAND. I'M NOT REALLY GETTING THIS HIGH QUALITY PROVIDER, LOWEST COST. IS THAT THE LOW COST ON THE PREMIUM. >> SO IT WOULD BE THERE WILL BE AN APP THAT EMPLOYEES WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, AND YOU'LL GO ON. AND THE PROVIDERS WITHIN THE UNITED HEALTHCARE NETWORK ARE RANKED, OR THEY HAVE A RATING AND BASED ON THEIR RATING, THAT WILL BE HOW THE COST IS DERIVED FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THAT PROVIDER. IT'S DIFFERENT. >> IT'S DIFFERENT. >> IT DOES. IT SOUNDS VERY DIFFERENT BECAUSE IF I WAS USING A HIGH QUALITY PROVIDER, I WOULD HAVE A HIGH QUALITY COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO IT DOES SOUND A BIT WEIRD, YOU KNOW, TO PUT IT THAT WAY. AND I'LL JUST TRUST THAT YOU ALL ARE, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT UNITED, UNITED HEALTH CARE IS, IS THE GROUP FOR BOTH OR JUST. >> FOR BOTH. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING BEHAVIOR. RIGHT. YOU WANT EMPLOYEES TO GO TO HIGH QUALITY PROVIDERS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT REDUCES THE EXPOSURE FOR THE CITY. THAT REDUCES THE EXPENSE FOR THE CITY. AND SO WE WANT TO DRIVE THEM TO THOSE HIGHER QUALITY PROVIDERS, WHICH IS WHY THE COST WOULD ULTIMATELY BE. >> LOWER. >> WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOWER. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HEAR. >> ULTIMATELY IT'LL BE LOWER. >> I THINK THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FOR. >> DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS WE'RE TRYING TO BE AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES ARE WE EXPERIENCING? AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE OURSELVES, BE AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. BE, YOU KNOW, THE THE STANDARD BEARER AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS BUDGET CYCLE, NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, WE ARE LEAVING LARGE VACANCIES WHICH HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO INCREASE WORKLOADS FOR THE SAME SERVICE LEVEL. I MEAN, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET. I'M NOT ASKING FOR A BUDGET DESCRIPTION, BUT I'M ASKING HOW. HOW DOES IT IMPACT THIS EFFORT? BECAUSE IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE'RE [01:15:08] WE MIGHT SLIP AT THE STARTING BLOCKS A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE DEFINITELY ARE IMPACTED JUST AS IS, JUST AS IS EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY. RIGHT. AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO MANAGE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE IN WHAT FINANCIAL RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. ADDITIONALLY, ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS A HUGE COMPONENT TO BEING AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE AND HOW WE'RE BUILDING UP OUR WORKFORCE. AND SO WE ARE USING OTHER ELEMENTS, WHETHER IT BE COMMITTEES OR PULLING IN THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING US BUILD THOSE TEAMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BRINGING IN OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO HELP BUILD TEAMS. AND WE'RE BRINGING IN DIFFERENT COMPONENTS SO THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. OH, AND MY. >> BUDGET BUDGET. >> PROFESSIONAL IS COMING UP. >> AS WELL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. CHRISTINE TAYLOR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. >> WE'RE LAUGHING AT THE. >> SMILE AS YOU CAME UP. THAT WAS A CAT WITH A MOUSE SMILE RIGHT THERE. >> YES. >> I THINK I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL CHANGES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WORKING TOWARDS THIS GOAL. WE IMPLEMENTED THE PAID PARENTAL LEAVE, WHICH WAS NOT REDUCED OUT OF THE BUDGET. WE ADDED ADDITIONAL HOLIDAYS, WHICH WAS NOT REDUCED OUT OF THE BUDGET. WITH THE BUDGET TASK FORCE, THERE'S A BIG EMPHASIS ON RETAINING OUR TUITION REIMBURSEMENT. AND PART OF THESE CHANGES WERE AN EFFORT OF WE WERE SEEING RISING HEALTH CARE COSTS. SO HOW DO WE GO IN WITH NO COMPENSATION, KEEP THESE BENEFITS AND NOT ADD AN ADDITIONAL HEALTH CARE COST ONTO OUR EMPLOYEES. SO JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE ADDED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT ARE NOT IMPACTED. >> OKAY, I HAVE TWO MORE IN THAT AREA. ONE, WE WE WE COVERED GLP ONE, OZEMPIC AND ZEPBOUND. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND FOR FOR TYPE TWO DIABETES, THAT'S THAT'S STANDARD OF CARE. BUT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TYPE TWO DIABETES OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GENERALLY. >> I DON'T WANT TO GET MISTY IS GOING TO BE THE BEST ONE TO ANSWER SPECIFICS ON MEDICATION. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE WE WANT TO GO, BUT YES, IT IS COVERED BY THE PLAN. SO I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF. >> WE. BUT NOT FOR WEIGHT LOSS. OKAY. >> THAT SHE UNDERSTOOD MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. MY MY LAST QUESTION IS WHEN DID WE I, I THINK THE ANSWER IS RECENTLY AND I'M SORRY I PLEASE I'M ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS IF I DON'T REMEMBER US DOING THIS. BUT WHEN DID WE REVIEW COMPETITIVELY? OUR PROVIDER. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT MY CARDS ON THE TABLE. I'M NOT THE BIGGEST FAN OF UNITEDHEALTHCARE. THEY'RE WELL KNOWN FOR NOT HAVING THE BEST INSURANCE, MEDICAL INSURANCE, HEALTH CARE PRACTICES. THEY ARE WELL KNOWN FOR BEING CHEAP. SO AND YES, I'M SAYING THIS OUT LOUD, SO IT WORRIES ME FOR BEING AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE WHEN. SO LET ME GO BACK TO THAT QUESTION. THE QUESTION I HAD WAS WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE REVIEWED OUR INSURANCE CARRIER, AND WHEN DO WE PLAN TO DO THAT AGAIN? >> WE JUST DID THAT LAST YEAR. WE JUST DID THAT LAST YEAR. AND IT CAME OUT THAT THAT WAS THE BEST PROVIDER AND THE BEST OPTION FOR THE CITY. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE AND I DON'T WANT TO. IT'S SOMEWHAT SUBJECTIVE, RIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK OTHERS HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE. AND SO AFTER WE DID OUR EVALUATION LAST YEAR, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THEY WERE THE BEST PROVIDER FOR THE CITY AT THIS TIME. >> OKAY. WELL, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE REREVIEW. IF I'M STILL ON COUNCIL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MIGHT. >> BE TOO, THOUGH, THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT PLANS UNDER UNITEDHEALTHCARE. SO FOR INSTANCE, THE PLAN WE HAVE OUR OUR TEAM OVER HR DOES SUCH A FANTASTIC JOB OF KNOWING KIND OF THE PULSE OF WHAT OUR STAFF WANT AND WHAT. AND THEY HAVE A PULSE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WAY OF ILLNESSES. AND SO WHEN THEY DO CHECK THE SOLICITATIONS AND THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT BID ON THIS, WHETHER IT'S BLUE CROSS, BLUE SHIELD, CIGNA, UNITEDHEALTHCARE, THEY'RE MATCHING IT UP AND FIGURING OUT WHICH ONE OF THOSE ARE THE BEST FOR THIS CITY. AND I WAS SURPRISED UNITEDHEALTHCARE CAME OUT AGAIN AT THE HIGHEST RATE. BUT IT MAY BE A DIFFERENT PLAN THAN WHAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. >> I RESPECT THAT CITY MANAGER. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE STAFF MEETING THE NEEDS. IT IS MOSTLY A COMMENTARY ABOUT OUR FRIENDS AT UHC. SO I REALIZE PROBABLY THAT'S NOT THE PLACE AND LET'S NOT RABBIT HOLE IT TOO MUCH. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT STAFF MEETING OUR NEEDS, BUT IT DOES SURPRISE ME THAT THAT THAT'S HAPPENING. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S FORBEARANCE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. >> CITY MANAGER I JUST. >> WANTED TO SAY AS THE GUINEA PIG, BECAUSE I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH MISTY BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND MY FAMILY IS ON A WHAT WAS CONSIDERED THE GOLD PLAN. AND I DID THAT BECAUSE OF I HAVE A SON THAT HAS A DISEASE, [01:20:02] AND SHE WALKED ME THROUGH IT. AND WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY HERE IS PEOPLE THAT WANT TO STICK A LITTLE MORE AFRAID CAN STICK WITH THEIR TRADITIONAL PLAN. IT IS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE DEDUCTIBLES AND CO-PAYS YOU HAVE TO MEET. AND IF FOR AN EXAMPLE AND AGAIN, I'M SHARING ALL THIS INFORMATION, BUT I JUST NOW, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, HAVE MET MY DEDUCTIBLE FOR FOR MY FAMILY. SO I STILL HAD TO PAY THINGS CO-PAYS AND THEN MY COST SHARE. SO WHEN I WENT TO HAVE SURGERY, I HAD TO PAY $660 BECAUSE I STILL HAD TO PAY THE MY MY COPAY, PLUS WHAT I OWED THE THE PLAN. I WALKED THROUGH WITH MISTY AND ALL OF MY PROVIDERS THAT I HAVE IN MY SON'S PROVIDERS THAT HE HAS TO HAVE AS A NEPHROLOGIST, AND ENT ARE PART OF THAT PLAN. YOU KEEP THE SAME DOCTORS AND THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF A COPAY FOR MY FAMILY WAS $130 JUST FOR A VISIT, AND WE USUALLY GO TWICE A YEAR, THREE TIMES A YEAR FOR THOSE VISITS. SO I'M LITERALLY SAVING MONEY OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. I'M NOT PAYING ALL THOSE DEDUCTIBLES AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, $75 CO-PAY OR $50 CO-PAY PLUS THE DEDUCTIBLE, I HAVEN'T MET. AND SO IT'S A LITTLE SCARY. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, HAVING BEEN A GUINEA PIG AND SHE SPENT SO MUCH TIME WITH ME AND I'M VERY THANKFUL EVERY ONE OF MY DOCTORS, THE HIGHEST WAS $130 COPAY, AND I GET TO KEEP THE SAME DOCTORS THAT I HAVE, AND I DON'T HAVE TO MEET A DEDUCTIBLE OR HAVE TO PAY OTHER BITS OF MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TOWARDS MY DEDUCTIBLE, WHICH TOOK ME ALL YEAR TO DO. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE HELPED US OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. GET TO THE POINT OF BEING EMPLOYED OR CHOICE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS. I THINK I TOLD YOU ALL ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS FOR A CITY MANAGER NOT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE COST OF LIVINGS AND MERITS, PARTICULARLY WHEN I WON'T BE HERE NEXT YEAR WHEN HOPEFULLY THEY GET ONE. BUT WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO SAY, LET'S NOT MAKE OUR HEALTH CARE UNREASONABLE FOR EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE SLAPPING THEM TWICE. AND LET'S CONTINUE TO THINK OF WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP OUR EMPLOYEES BENEFIT. SO I MENTIONED TO YOU THE FOUR AND A HALF DAY WORKWEEK, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON SO THAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER OPTION FREE PREVENTATIVE, CARE FREE TELADOC, I BELIEVE FREE MENTAL HEALTH PSYCHIATRY CARE, OR AT LEAST A VERY LOW COST $25. IT'S THERE'S A LOT. AND THEN THE LOWER PAYCHECK DEDUCTIONS, WHICH REALLY DOES MATTER WHEN PEOPLE ARE PENNY PINCHING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SUCH A BIG 300 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECK TWICE A MONTH. AND SO I HAVE TO SAY, I WAS ONE OF THE MOST LEERY PEOPLE ABOUT THIS. BUT I THINK THIS IS A WAY THAT SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES WILL REALLY APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SAVE SOME MONEY ON THAT END. AND THEN MY HOPE IS THAT NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE MERIT AND THE COST OF LIVING, AND WE'LL ONLY HAVE GONE THROUGH REALLY ONE YEAR OF NOT GETTING THAT. THE PROOF'S IN THE PUDDING AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES FOR THIS YEAR. BUT I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A COUPLE OF GOOD PLANS THAT WILL CERTAINLY GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MONEY. >> AND I DO WANT TO APPLAUD STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, TRYING TO MAKE DENTON A COMPETITIVE PLACE WHERE WE'RE ATTRACTING SOME OF THE BEST EMPLOYEES AND HOPEFULLY RETAINING THEM AND TAKING CARE OF THEM WHILE THEY'RE HERE. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING ON THAT I ADJOURN. YES. YEAH, THERE WILL BE NO CLOSED MEETING. IT WAS POSTED ON THE AGENDA, BUT THAT ITEM GOT PULLED SO THERE WILL BE NO CLOSED MEETING. SO AT 424 I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND WE WILL RECONVENE IN [AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:] GOOD EVENINO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2025. IT IS THREE. I MEAN PARDON ME THREE. THAT'S WORK. SESSION 6:31 P.M. AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA ARE PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE. >> PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. >> TO THEE, TEXAS. ONE STATE. UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. OKAY. [2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS] >> AND THEN WE. THAT BRINGS US TO OUR PROCLAMATIONS OF WHICH WE HAVE THREE, FIRST OF WHICH WILL RECOGNIZE MISTER MICHAEL MORRIS. IF YOU CAN MEET ME AT THE PODIUM THERE, PLEASE. AND THANK YOU. >> HEY, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? YOU, SIR. [01:25:07] >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING. THAT'S AWESOME. SO. YES. >> AND I'LL. I'LL GIVE US THE THE ELEVATOR PITCH VERSION OF. I MEAN, YOU'VE DONE AMAZING THINGS. JUST I WANT TO YOU CAN KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHATEVER YOUR, YOUR PASSION IS. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR TO SHARE WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO SAY. >> WELL, MADAM, MISTER MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MADAM CITY MANAGER, MISS JESTER, COUNCIL MEMBER. JESTER FOR BEING ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MICHAEL MORRIS. I'M THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AT THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. 45 YEARS IN PUBLIC SERVICE AT THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, WAKING UP EVERY DAY TRYING TO BUILD THE THE BEST AND MOST ADVANCED TRANSPORTATION URBAN TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN THE WORLD. AND I GET TO WORK WITH VERY GIFTED ELECTED OFFICIALS AND A VERY GIFTED PUBLIC THAT'S FULLY ENGAGED IN HELPING US DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE BEST TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, HOW TO NOT LET THE HORSE GET OUT OF THE BARN BY CREATING GOOD LAND USE AND MORE EFFICIENT URBAN DENSITY. AND THEN WHATEVER TOOLS WE NEED IN DELIVERING TRANSIT, HELPING US WITH AIR QUALITY. I DON'T KNOW IF MY DOCTOR CALLED SOMEBODY AND I'M BEING RECOGNIZED BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL REPORT, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY PLAN ON GOING ANYWHERE. AND IT'S VERY NICE TO FOR YOU TO RECOGNIZE ME, MR. MAYOR. >> YEAH, NO, I JUST I DO APPRECIATE ALL ALL THE WORK YOU DO AND HAVE DONE AND JUST YOUR VISION. IT'S IT'S CRITICAL. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET BEHIND THAT ONCE THERE'S A VISION AND YOU GIVE US SOMETHING TO SHOOT FOR. AND I DO ENJOY YOUR YOUR PASSION SPEECH WHEN YOU COME BACK FROM AUSTIN. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY. IT MEANS A LOT. AND SO THAT LEADS US TO THIS, TO THIS MOMENT. AND ABSOLUTELY, THE WORK YOU'VE DONE WITH STAFF LATELY, COUNCILMEMBER JESTER, IS TRULY APPRECIATED. SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU. SO HERE YOU GO. LET'S SEE HERE. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. IT MAKES THE IT MAKES THE WORDS BIGGER. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BUT. IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS. TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS MICHAEL MORRIS HAS BEEN A DEDICATED MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OF THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS SINCE 1979, AS A HEAD OF THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA, AND HAS PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN SHAPING THE REGION'S TRANSPORTATION POLICIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS, MISTER MORRIS DEVELOPS PLANS AND PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OF THE RAPIDLY GROWING METROPOLITAN AREA TO IMPROVE MOBILITY AND ROAD SAFETY. AND WHEREAS MICHAEL MORRIS HAS BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR IMPROVING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, HIS DEDICATION TO ENHANCING REGIONAL MOBILITY AND ASSISTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS REFLECTS HIS COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS IN THE REGION. NOW, THEREFORE, I. GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, FORMALLY CONVEYED THE COMMUNITY'S SINCERE AND WARM APPRECIATION OF MICHAEL MORRISON AND PERMANENT MANNER BY READING THIS PROCLAMATION INTO THE OFFICIAL MINUTES OF THE CITY OF DENTON, AND FORWARD HIM A TRUE COPY THEREOF, IF WE CAN GIVE HIM A HAND. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE A SCOPE AND SCALE. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING SORRY, DUSTIN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING GRANT SIZE TRADITIONALLY OR JUST LET'S JUST SAY LAST YEAR, TOTAL AMOUNT OF GRANTS THAT YOU HELPED BRING TO THE REGION. >> SO JUST JUST LAST YEAR ALONE, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN IMPASSE BETWEEN THE US SENATE AND THE US HOUSE ON WHO SHOULD GET THE MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION, THE STATES OR THE URBAN REGIONS. WE'RE BEEN IN A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM WHERE THERE'S 34 DIFFERENT GRANT CYCLES FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES, BIKE PED, AND WE THEN COMPETE AGGRESSIVELY AGAINST OUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HAVE THEM BE MPOS OR STATE GOVERNMENTS. AND LAST YEAR ALONE, WE WON $500 MILLION OF COMPETITIVE GRANTS THAT WE BROUGHT BACK TO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH REGION. >> VERY IMPORTANT. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S AWESOME. >> I HAVE SOME EXTRA COPIES HERE FOR YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. [01:30:06] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS A LOT. NICE TO SEE YOU. YES, SIR. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. NICE TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE RTC. WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR BRILLIANCE AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR REGION. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU AS CITIZENS WHO GET ENGAGED IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> EXCELLENT. AND NEXT, IF YOU ARE HERE TO RECOGNIZE ARBOR DAY, IF YOU'D COME ON UP, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. HELLO AGAIN. HELLO. YOU THE SPOKESPERSON? OKAY. >> YOU WANT TO BE A SPOKESPERSON? >> EXCELLENT. YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING. OKAY. >> THE CITY OF DENTON WILL BE CELEBRATING ARBOR DAY ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 8TH BY PLANTING OVER 1000 SEEDLINGS AT CLEAR CREEK NATIONAL HERITAGE CENTER. THIS PROJECT IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE ELM FORK MASTER NATURALISTS, THE CITY OF DENTON, THROUGH GRANT FUNDING PROVIDED BY HEB. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. AND THEN EVERYONE CAN INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> HAYWOOD MORGAN, URBAN FORESTER AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY MAINTAIN YOUR TREES AND PLANT MORE TREES. >> YEAH. >> DELIA KRETZMANN, SECRETARY OF THE ELM FORK CHAPTER OF TEXAS MASTER NATURALISTS. >> I'M. I'M BRYAN LEWIS. I'M PRIVILEGED TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHAPTER THIS YEAR. CLAY THURMOND, PROJECT MANAGER FOR CLEAR CREEK ELM FORK CHAPTER, TEXAS MASTER NATURALIST. >> AND IS THERE A RESOURCE IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET INVOLVED OR WANT TO HELP, THEY WANT TO VOLUNTEER. IS THERE A BEST PLACE TO GO FOR THEM? TO LEARN MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO GET ACTIVE AND VOLUNTEER? >> WELL, YOU CAN GO TO THE TEXAS MASTER NATURALIST ELM FORK SITE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE A VOLUNTEER OR LEARN HOW TO BE A TEXAS MASTER NATURALIST FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, YOU CAN GO TO THE KEEP DENTON BEAUTIFUL GALAXY REGISTRATION SITE AND SIGN UP, AND PRE-REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED. AND IT CLOSES ON FRIDAY. >> OKAY. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. APPRECIATE IT. SO I HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND ONCE AGAIN I'LL MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANY WORDS. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS ACROSS TEXAS, FROM TOWERING PINES TO MAJESTIC OAKS AND OUR ICONIC, ICONIC MESQUITES, THE MANY TREES OF TEXAS FEATURE FEATURE OF OUR UNIQUE AND BREATHTAKING LANDSCAPE. AND AS TEXANS, WE VALUE OUR TREES AND THE BENEFITS THEY PROVIDE. AND WHEREAS WE WE ENCOURAGE CELEBRATING TREES ON THE FIRST FRIDAY EACH NOVEMBER ON TEXAS ARBOR DAY, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF TEXAS FORESTRY ASSOCIATION, WHICH WAS FIRST OBSERVED IN 1889 AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH FUNDAMENTAL LESSONS ABOUT THE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. AND WHEREAS TOGETHER WE CAN CREATE A BRIGHTER AND MORE BEAUTIFUL FUTURE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION. BY ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PLANT TREES AND TO PROTECT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE EIGHTH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2025 AS DENTON. DENTON, TEXAS ARBOR DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO CARE FOR, CARE FOR, AND PLANT TREES FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THIS AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. >> OKAY. AND THEN WE WILL RECOGNIZE WORLD POLIO DAY. IF YOU'RE HERE FOR WORLD POLIO DAY IF YOU CAN COME DOWN. HEY, HEY. VERY WELL. THANK YOU. HOW ARE YOU? HEY, HOW ARE YOU? OKAY. >> WHO'S I'M. >> THE ONE. >> ALL RIGHT. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. I AM SO PLEASED AND PRIVILEGED TO HOLD THE THE TITLE OF THE PRESIDENT OF OUR LOCAL ROTARY CLUB. WHERE THE ROTARY CLUB OF DENTON. WE MEET AT NOON. SO WE'RE CALLED THE NOON CLUB. WE HAVE A [01:35:01] MORNING CLUB. WE HAVE AN EVENING CLUB. AND I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RECOGNIZE WORLD POLIO DAY. I WILL SAY THAT THERE HAS BEEN MANY, MANY, MANY EFFORTS FOR A LONG TIME TO ERADICATE POLIO FROM THE WORLD, AND THERE IS AN ONGOING EFFORT FOR THAT. WE DO HAVE OUR LOCAL DOCTOR HERE. SHE HAS GIVEN US INFORMATION ON POLIO AND ERADICATING POLIO. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL JUST TRANSFER IT DOWN. YES. OKAY. YEAH. THOSE WHO YOU ARE. >> HI. >> HI, I'M DOCTOR MARLA STRITTMATTER. I'M A FAMILY MEDICINE PHYSICIAN HERE IN DENTON, BUT I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE DENTON NOON ROTARY CLUB. IT IS THE MID ONE OF THE GOALS OF ROTARY INTERNATIONAL TO BRING AWARENESS THAT POLIO HAS NOT BEEN ERADICATED. IN FACT, CURRENTLY IN 2025, IT IS HAVING A RESURGENCE IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE WORLD. AND SO AS ROTARY, WE WANT TO JUST BRING AWARENESS TO THIS PROBLEM. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE CONTINUED DONATIONS TO TRY TO DECREASE THE INCIDENCE OF THIS VERY DEBILITATING DISEASE. AND THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HI, I'M. >> REBECCA JACKSON, MEMBER OF THE DENTON ROTARY. >> LEAH HAMILTON, MEMBER OF DENTON ROTARY. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. >> I'M ALSO A MEMBER. DENTON ROTARY AND I CAME DOWN OFF THE DYESS JUST TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. AND THE PROCLAMATION READS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS. TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS 1985, IN 1985, ROTARY LAUNCHED POLIOPLUS AND IN 1988 HELPED CREATE THE GLOBAL POLIO ERADICATION INITIATIVE, A PARTNERSHIP THAT INCLUDES THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, US CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, UN, UNICEF, THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION, AND GAVI TO IMMUNIZE THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD AGAINST POLIO. AND WHEREAS SINCE 1988, POLIO CASES HAVE DROPPED BY 99.9% AND ROTARY HAS CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN 2.2 BILLION IN COUNTLESS VOLUNTEER HOURS TO HELP PROTECT NEARLY 3 BILLION CHILDREN IN 122 COUNTRIES. AND ROTARY CONTINUES TO RAISE 50 MILLION EACH YEAR, WHICH IS MATCHED WITH 100 MILLION GIVEN ANNUALLY BY BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION. AND WHEREAS, THE ROTARY CLUB OF DENTON IS PART OF THE GLOBAL NETWORK OF MORE THAN 1.2 MILLION CLUBS WORLDWIDE, ALL WORKING ON SERVICE PROJECTS TO ADDRESS CRITICAL ISSUES LIKE POVERTY, DISEASE, HUNGER, ILLITERACY AND THE ENVIRONMENT, BOTH LOCALLY AND GLOBALLY. NOW THERE ARE NOW THEREFORE, I, GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THE 24TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2025 AS WORLD POLIO DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE ROTARY INTERNATIONAL IN THE FIGHT FOR A POLIO FREE WORLD IF WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'LL LEAVE THAT WITH YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> APPRECIATE YOU. GREAT TO SEE YOU. YEAH. GREAT TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. MANSION, YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU. >> IF WE COULD PLAY THE VIDEO FOR ADDRESSING COUNCIL. [3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC] >> THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT. A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED. IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING. IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS. IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NONSCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN [01:40:05] ADVANCE. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY. SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS. ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT TAKES US TO OUR SPEAKERS, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS DIANA JULIAN, MAYBE. YEP. OKAY. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. THANK YOU. MADAM, PRACTICE. >> I'M DIANA JULIAN AND I LIVE AT 2500 RUGBY LANE. IS THIS ON? YES. OKAY, OKAY. STARTING HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE FALL OF 2022. NOT YET. IN THE FALL OF 2022. HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS, ABOUT 35 IN ALL OF OLD NORTH PARK CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ASKING FOR HELP TO PROTECT OUR HOMES AND FAMILIES FROM LOSS OF PRIVACY AND SECURITY. THREATENED BY THE POSITIONING OF THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN A DEVELOPMENT PURSUED BY STONE HAWK CAPITAL. AFTER HEARING THE PETITION FROM A NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS AND DISCUSSING SOLUTIONS, COUNCIL VOTED TO POSTPONE THE REZONING OF A SECTION OF LAND. STONE HAWK SOUGHT IN FAVOR OF A PD PROCESS TO BEGIN BETWEEN HOMEOWNERS AND OLD NORTH PARK AND THE DEVELOPER. A DEVELOPMENT STEERING COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO REPRESENT THE OLD NORTH PARK COMMUNITIES. MANY COLLABORATIVE MEETINGS WERE HELD BETWEEN STONE HAWK AND THIS COMMITTEE AT ALL TIMES. THE MOST IMPORTANT CONCERN FOR HOMEOWNERS WAS THE MAINTENANCE OF SIGHTLINE PRIVACY PROTECTIONS. THERE WAS NO AMBIGUITY HERE. THE TOPIC WAS DISCUSSED AT EVERY MEETING, AND REDESIGNS WERE MADE TO PROVIDE ACCEPTABLE SOLUTIONS. WHEN HOMEOWNER REPRESENTATIVES FELT THAT THE MISSION TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOOD ESTHETICS, PRIVACY AND SECURITY HAD BEEN SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED, A MEMORANDUM MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WAS SIGNED. THE FIRST SIX ITEMS OF THE MOU WERE ALL ABOUT PRIVACY PROTECTIONS. THE COMMITTEE WAS SO GRATEFUL TO BE AT THE END OF THIS LONG PROCESS, WITH AN AGREEABLE OUTCOME THAT REPRESENTATIVES ATTENDED AND VERBALLY SUPPORTED THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAN. DEVELOPMENT. BOTH PARTIES WERE COMMENDED BY COUNCIL FOR THEIR GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO COME TO AGREEMENT FOR SUCCESS OF ALL. AND THEN OKAY, THAT'S ABOUT A YEAR LATER WHEN CLEARING AND GRADING ACTIVITIES STARTED, RESIDENTS BEGAN TO BE CONCERNED THAT THE AGREEMENTS FOR PRIVACY PROTECTION HAD BEEN ALTERED SINCE IT APPEARED THE BUILDING PAD SITES WERE BEING ELEVATED TO A HEIGHT, WHICH WOULD CREATE A CHANGE IN SIGHTLINES. COMMITTEE MEMBERS REACHED OUT TO AMY BISSETT, AGENT FOR STONE HAWK, IN ALARM AND RESPONSE TO OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE GRADING, SHE SAID WE SHOULD EXPECT GRADE HEIGHT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL TO END UP BEING BETWEEN 2 AND 4FT MAX. WE COMMENTED THAT THE PAD LOOKED LIKE IT ALREADY EXCEEDED THAT MAXIMUM, TO WHICH SHE REPLIED THAT IT WAS LIKELY BECAUSE GRADING WAS STILL IN THE INITIAL STAGES AND THE FINISHED HEIGHT WOULD SETTLE DOWN FROM WHAT WE WERE SEEING. AMY SAID SHE WOULD REACH OUT TO STONE HAWK FOR ANSWERS TO ADDRESS RESIDENTS CONCERNS, BUT RESPONSES WERE NEVER PROVIDED. WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE GREAT INCREASE ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINES EXCEED THE EXPECTATION. ULTIMATELY, THE PAD SITE ON BUILDING FOUR AND ESPECIALLY THE PARKING LOT WHICH SITS OPPOSITE OUR FENCE LINES, WERE ELEVATED TO SIX FEET OFF GROUND LEVEL, AND THIS SHOCKING AND SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE WAS NEVER DISCLOSED TO US AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AS OUTLINED IN THE MOU. NOW WE HAVE THE TOPS OF PARK VEHICLES AND OCCUPANTS INSIDE THEM, SHOWING ABOVE OUR EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCES. INDIVIDUALS STANDING AT THE FRONT OF THE PARKING LOTS CAN BE SEEN, CAN SEE INTO BACKYARDS. IN SOME CASES, VEHICLES PARKED AND DRIVING ALONG THE LONG STRETCH OF FENCE LINE THAT ARE VISIBLE NOT THEY ARE VISIBLE NOT ONLY FROM BACKYARDS, BUT ALSO BY ANYONE DRIVING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IN THE FUTURE, WHEN VEHICLES LINE THE PARKING LOT, IT WILL LOOK AS IF WE'RE BACKED UP TO AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE. AT NIGHT, THE LIGHTS FROM CARS WILL SEEP THROUGH THE GAPS IN THE SINGLE SEATER SLAT PICKET FENCING FROM A TALL HEIGHT. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND CONTRARY TO THE PRIVACY. WE WORKED SO HARD IN GOOD FAITH TO PROTECT PARKING LOT POLE LIGHTING. ELEVATION IS ANOTHER NEGATIVE IMPACT, SITUATED AS THEY ARE NOW OR WILL BE. GLARE FROM THESE LIGHTS WILL INFILTRATE OUR HOME WINDOWS AND PRIVATE BACKYARDS. THE FULL IMPACT OF RAISING THE BUILDING PAD SITES ON THE NOW CHANGED PRIVACY SIGHTLINES IS YET TO BE REALIZED BY HOMEOWNERS, AS THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT YET FULLY CONSTRUCTED. IN ADDITION TO THESE UNEXPECTED VIOLATIONS OF PRIVACY CONCERNS, WE CERTAINLY DID NOT ANTICIPATE THE SERIOUS, DAMAGING FLOODING THAT'S BEEN [01:45:02] EXPERIENCED BY WATER FLOWING LIKE A RIVER BETWEEN THE RAISED PARKING LOT AND OUR FENCES AND INFILTRATING OUR YARDS, HOMES AND HOMES DURING PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN. THESE FLOODS HAVE CAUSED PROPERTY DAMAGE AND LOSS OF USE FOR HOMES AND FOR HOMEOWNERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, FOR WHICH NO COMPENSATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED IN THE FIVE MONTHS SINCE THE MOST SERIOUS DAMAGE. IT'S OUR CONTENTION THAT THE DEVELOPERS DRAINAGE DESIGN CONTRIBUTED TO BOTH THE SITE PAD ELEVATION PRIVACY ISSUE AND CONTINUAL FLOODING. >> AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S AND THERE'S ONE QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THAT'S OVER HERE, DIANE. DIANE, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT EXPRESSING THESE CONCERNS I HAD I SEEM TO RECALL COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT THAT THAT SPECIFICALLY THEY TALKED ABOUT DRONES BEING FLOWN AT THE HEIGHT THAT WAS PROJECTED. DO YOU REMEMBER DO YOU HAPPEN TO REMEMBER WHAT THAT HEIGHT WAS FOR THOSE DRONES? >> SHATNER FLEW THOSE DRONES AND WE NEVER GOT ANY OF THE THE PICTURES OR ANYTHING BACK. BUT EVERY MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE PRIVACY SIGHTLINES, AND THEY TRIED TO MEASURE ALL OF THOSE. AND WE NEVER GOT A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ON THAT. BUT THEY DID TELL US THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE WAY WE LOOKED AT IT, THEY HAD THEIR PICTURES AND EVERYTHING, THAT THAT'S WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AND NOT SIX FEET OFF THE GROUND. >> AND LAST QUESTION, I DIDN'T I WASN'T ABLE TO HIT EVERY SINGLE MEETING, BUT I WAS IN A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. I DON'T RECALL A DISCUSSION OF RAISING GRADE EVER AT ANY MEETING. WAS DO YOU EVER RECALL THAT BEING DISCUSSED IN ANY OF THE HOA MEETINGS? >> WE WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING WHEN WE HAD WHEN WE WERE IN THE MEETINGS. AND WE WERE WE HAD HOMEOWNERS ASK, WHAT ABOUT CAR LIGHTS? AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE BUSHES PLANTED ALONG THE BASE ON THE OUTSIDE OF OUR FENCES TO FILTER THE CAR LIGHTS. SO WE ALWAYS EXPECTED THERE TO BE VERY MINIMAL GRADE ABOVE THE THE, THE GROUND LEVEL. AND WHEN THIS HAPPENED, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW DISHEARTENING IT WAS TO ALL OF US, BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE ALL OF OUR WORK, FOR ALL THE WORK WE DID, WAS COMPLETELY NEGATED BY THIS. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY IT HAPPENED, HOW IT HAPPENED, BUT SOMEHOW IT GOT, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTED. >> SO I APPRECIATE THAT, DIANA. I MY REQUEST WILL BE TO STAFF THAT I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME EXISTING DISCUSSIONS WITH MEMBERS OF STAFF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT WITH WITH THE NEIGHBORS. I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE ON, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF DEV SERVICES OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS COULD GET BACK TO STAFF OR SORRY, COUNCIL ON OUR STANDARDS FOR HOW MUCH GRADE CAN BE INCREASED IN A PROJECT. IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO US ON THAT, I'D APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PENNY WOOTEN. OH. >> YES. AND THEN I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE. YOU'LL HAVE TO CLICK THROUGH IT. OH NO. WELL I SAID IT SHOULD BE ON THE SCROLL. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS PENNY WOOTEN. YEAH. AND I LIVE AT 2504 RUGBY LANE. SO I'VE LIVED IN DENTON FOR OVER 50 YEARS. FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS I'VE BEEN AT 2504 RUGBY LANE IN THE OLD NORTH SUBDIVISION. WE ARE A CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY AND WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT. THERE ARE MANY SINGLE WOMEN AND THERE ARE MANY RETIRED PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE ARE PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER. IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN MY HOME, WE HAD NEVER FLOODED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, HAD NEVER FLOODED. IT HAD NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE UNTIL THE STONE CONSTRUCTION BEGAN DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR FENCES. NOW WE CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN SEVERELY FLOODED SEVEN TIMES IN FIVE MONTHS, BEGINNING ON APRIL 30TH AND MOST RECENTLY ON SEPTEMBER 21ST. FOR THE FIRST FEW MONTHS, IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO STEP OUT OF MY BACK DOOR ON ONTO MY PATIO BECAUSE OF THE SILT, AND IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO STEP INTO MY YARD. AND THEN IT GOT WORSE. ON THE NIGHT OF DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ON JUNE 3RD, I WOKE UP TO FIND CLASS C CONTAMINATED CONSTRUCTION SITE WATER THROUGH THREE FOURTHS OF MY HOME. WE HAD SENT PICTURES AND VIDEOS TO STONE HAWK EVERY TIME WE HAD BEEN FLOODED, AND WE WERE TRYING TO SHOW THEM THAT THIS WAS A REALLY BAD SITUATION AND BEGGING FOR THEM TO REVISIT THE INADEQUATE MEASURES THAT THEY HAD TAKEN FOR DRAINAGE THAT WAS SO OBVIOUSLY INADEQUATE. AND NOW I FELT LIKE I HAD WOKEN UP TO A NIGHTMARE. THE NEXT DAYS AND WEEKS WERE A FOG, AS I DID [01:50:01] WHAT I COULD TO SAVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. MOST OF MY BELONGINGS ARE STILL EITHER IN A STORAGE UNIT OR IN MY GARAGE. I AM STILL LIVING ON CONCRETE FIVE MONTHS LATER, AND WAITING FOR THE DAY THAT I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN, SO THAT I CAN START THE PROCESS OF RESTORING MY HOME. I WILL NEED SHEETROCK, PAINTING, KITCHEN CABINETS, FLOORING, SOME APPLIANCES, LANDSCAPING AND FENCING. I AM CONCERNED THAT MY FOUNDATION HAS BEEN COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUOUS FLOODS AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, MY BACKYARD IS A DISASTER AND IT HAS BEEN DESTROYED. I KNOW I WILL HAVE TO DISCLOSE ALL OF THIS WHEN I SELL MY HOME SOMEDAY, AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THIS WILL AFFECT ITS VALUE. AND ALL THIS TIME WE ARE WATCHING APARTMENTS GO UP BEHIND US ON A PAD THAT ALLOWS EVERYONE WHO LIVES THERE TO LOOK DOWN INTO OUR YARDS AND THE BACK OF OUR HOMES. IT HAS BEEN FIVE MONTHS AND STONE HAWK HAS DONE NOTHING BUT SILENTLY CONTINUE TO BUILD. I HAD HOPED TO HAVE THE OPTION TO RETIRE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, BUT IF THEY DO NOT COMPENSATE ME FOR ALL OF THE DAMAGES I HAVE RECEIVED, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO. I'M GETTING TO TELL YOU MY STORY, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO SUSTAIN DAMAGES AND AREN'T GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR LOSSES AND THEIR FRUSTRATIONS, SO I HOPE I HAVE REPRESENTED THEM WELL AS I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE CHANCE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HEARING WHAT I HAD TO PRESENT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. >> YES WE DO. >> WE DO HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. MISS WOOTEN AND MISS MISS JULIAN WERE NICE ENOUGH TO INVITE ME TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT THEIR SITUATION, AND AND I DID, AND I AND I GOT ON A LADDER AND LOOKED OVER THE FENCE ONTO THIS. AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M FIVE NINE. I REALLY AM FIVE NINE. AND THE RETAINING THE PAD THAT THEY HAVE BUILT IS THREE INCHES TALLER THAN ME. AND THEY HAD PLANNED TO BUILD. THANK YOU. THEY PLANNED TO BUILD A THREE STORY BUILDING ON TOP OF A PAD THAT'S THREE INCHES TALLER THAN ME. WE'RE TALKING ALMOST 40FT TALL HERE. THIS IS. THIS IS 20FT FROM THE BACKYARD OF THESE OF THESE PEOPLE'S HOUSE. WE'RE IN HEAVEN. COULD COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE TWO BY SIXES? MISS? MISS WOOTEN'S BACKYARD, PLEASE? >> NO SWEAT. I'M NOT GOOD WITH TECHNOLOGY WHEN I'M NOT NERVOUS. SO. >> DEBORAH. >> THIS THIS IS DRAMATIC BECAUSE. BECAUSE SOME SOME NICE PEOPLE FROM A CHURCH. >> YES. YEAH. KEEP GOING. >> I'M SORRY. >> I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CAUSE A PROBLEM. >> THERE YOU GO. YOU GOT THERE. >> WELL, THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION. THESE. THESE PEOPLE ARE IN MISS WOOTEN'S BACKYARD, PUTTING UP TWO BY SIXES TO CONSTRUCT A FLUME TO DIRECT WATER AWAY FROM HER HOUSE. NOW, THINK ABOUT LIVING LIKE THAT. YOU'VE YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT A WATERWAY IN YOUR BACKYARD. I, I WENT INTO THE HOUSE, SOME OF THE HOUSES IN FINISHED ROOMS. THERE'S WATER WATERMARKS, SIX INCHES HIGH. NOBODY LIVES THAT WAY. NOBODY TAKES THEIR THEIR VERY, VERY BIGGEST MATERIAL INVESTMENT. AND HAS THAT HAPPEN TO IT. SEVEN TIMES. THIS HAS HAPPENED SINCE APRIL. IS THAT RIGHT. LET'S SEE HOW MUCH SEVEN IS. THE FIRST TIME. THE SECOND TIME. THE THIRD TIME. THE FOURTH TIME. THE FIFTH TIME. THE SIXTH TIME. THE SEVENTH TIME. IT'S HAPPENED SEVEN TIMES SINCE APRIL. I. MR. MAYOR, I'M I'M HOPING THAT THAT PLANNING CAN, CAN, CAN GET [01:55:04] STONE HAWK TO SUSPEND CONSTRUCTION ON THIS PROJECT UNTIL THIS SITUATION IS TAKEN CARE OF. IT. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU COULD RUN A BOAT UP AND DOWN THE WATERWAY BETWEEN BETWEEN MISS WOOTEN AND MISS JULIAN'S HOME AND AND THE WALL. I'M SORRY. NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THAT. NOBODY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS WOOTEN. >> THANK YOU. >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THE NEXT, NEXT SPEAKER IS MAY JANE. THANK YOU. IT. YES, I THINK SO. YES, SIR. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> OKAY. >> I JUST NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS SLIDESHOW INTO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. IF YOU CAN BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A SECOND, I THINK I GOT IT. THERE WE GO. SO, HI. HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARY JANE CLAYSON, AND MY HOUSE IS IN PHASE TWO OF THE OLD NORTH NORTH PARK ADDITION AT 2324 PAXTON WAY. SO YOU JUST HEARD FROM PEOPLE FROM PHASE ONE. AND I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING REGARDING FLOODING AND PRIVACY INVASION IN PHASE TWO. OKAY. SO THIS IS A VIDEO. I CLIMBED UP AND LOOKED OVER MY BACKYARD FENCE ON A LITTLE LADDER, AND THIS WAS DURING A RAIN EVENT. YOU CAN SEE THE FLOODING. YOU CAN SEE THE CANAL. IT WAS PRETTY SHOCKING. THAT SWIRL IS WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A A DRAIN, AND IT WAS ALL CLOGGED UP. SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE SHOWN IN THE FIRST VIDEO, YOU CAN SEE THE MAGNITUDE OF WATER THAT IS GOING THROUGH THAT CHANNEL DURING THE RAIN EVENTS. THIS VIDEO WAS FILMED DIRECTLY OVER MY BACKYARD FENCE. THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT BEHIND ALL THE BACKYARD FENCES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF PAXTON WAY. SEE HOW MUCH WATER GOES THROUGH IT LIKE A RIVER THROUGH THAT SMALL CHANNEL. THE NEXT VIDEO IS MY BACKYARD DURING THE RAIN, I'VE NEVER HAD FLOODING IN MY BACKYARD EVER BEFORE THIS DEVELOPMENT STARTED. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT OUR LOTS ARE VERY SMALL. THERE'S NOT MUCH YARD TO ABSORB WATER, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALL BACKYARD, THERE'S A LIMITED AREA OF LAND THAT CAN ABSORB THE WATER. THE PASSAGE OF WATER IS VERY CLOSE TO MY HOUSE AND THE OTHER HOUSES ON PAXTON WAY BACKING UP TO IT, AND THEREFORE THE WATER HAS A GREAT IMPACT ON MY YARD RIGHT AWAY. WHEN IT RAINS. SEE THE WINDOW SILL AT THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE? THAT IS THE MASTER BEDROOM WINDOW SILL. SEE HOW TINY THE YARD IS? THE WATER IS COMING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HOUSE NOW. IT'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE EVERY TIME IT RAINS. I'VE NEVER HAD FLOODING. AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS DEVELOPMENT STARTED, THE SMALL SIZE OF OUR YARDS BEING SO CLOSE TO THE FENCE AND THE HEAVY VOLUME OF WATER RUNOFF MAKES THE EFFECT MORE ACUTE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN ANY OTHER TYPE OF SUBDIVISION. STONE HAWK SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THIS INTO CONSIDERATION IN THEIR DRAINAGE PLAN. AS FAR AS PRIVACY REGARDING THE RAISED PAD SITE, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AS YOU CAN SEE THE HEIGHT OF THAT WALL. DUE TO THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE DISTANCE FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE HOMES, THERE'S NOT MUCH AREA BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND OUR WINDOWS, AND WE DON'T HAVE A DEEP LOT WITH TREES THAT COULD BLOCK THE VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE OUR HOMES. WHAT MAKES THE RAISED PAD MORE CONCERNING IS THAT THERE IS NO VISUAL OBSTRUCTION TO PROVIDE A SCREEN TO PREVENT US FROM BEING EXPOSED, OR GROSSLY INTRUDING ON OUR PRIVACY. SO WE NEED NEW WAYS TO TRY TO BLOCK THE VIEW AND TO MAINTAIN THE PRIVACY THAT WAS AGREED UPON IN THE MOU. THE DOCUMENT THAT GROUPS GROUP OF RESIDENTS WORKED WITH STONE HOT. THAT SPELLS OUT A LIST OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT STONE HAWK AGREED TO DO TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF OUR HOMES AND BACKYARDS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. BUT BY RAISING THIS PAD SITE, ALL THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN NULLIFIED. NOW PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE STRAIGHT INTO OUR YARDS AND WINDOWS, CARS PARKING NOSE IN SO CLOSELY TO OUR FENCE AND UP SO HIGH THEIR HEADLIGHTS WILL BE AN INTRUSION OF GLARING BRIGHT LIGHT INTO OUR HOMES, OUR BEDROOMS AND OUR BACKYARDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING, AND I WOULD LOVE [02:00:04] TO JUST SAY ONE MORE THING. I'VE BEEN A VICTIM OF A HOME BEING DESTROYED IN FLOOD WATER BEFORE IN ANOTHER COUNTY, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE TERRIFIED WHENEVER IT RAINS, SO PLEASE HELP US IF YOU CAN. THANK YOU. >> ONE MOMENT PLEASE. AND SO I'M GOING TO SKIP YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER JESTER. >> I'M SO SORRY. JUST FOR ONE INTERJECTION. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND SPEAKING TONIGHT. I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR EVERY HUMAN BEING HERE WHEN I SAY JUST HOW DISAPPOINTED AND SCARED AND MORTIFIED WE ARE WITH THE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PHOTOS, ETCETERA. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THAT WHEN WHEN YOU ALL ARE, ARE THOSE THAT ARE HERE SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC ARE READY TO EXIT, WE DO HAVE AMY BESSETTE IS HERE AND SHE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY AND WANTS TO MEET AND DISCUSS WITH YOU WHAT SHE KNOWS. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SHARE WHAT PROGRESS OR LACK OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST SOME PROGRESS ON THE LIGHTING, THE FENCE AND THE DRAINAGE. OF COURSE, I HAVE NO PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT LEVEL OR WHERE IT IS. AS A LAWYER. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MUCH ELSE, BUT LAWYERS ARE HELPFUL SOMETIMES. AND ANYWAYS, I JUST WANTED TO INVITE YOU ALL. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A SPACE IN A ROOM OUTSIDE WHEN EVERYONE'S DONE SPEAKING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AND BE A PART OF THAT MEETING. AND SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME INTERRUPT AND JUMP AHEAD OF COUNCIL MEMBER PECK. BUT I JUST HAD HAD SOME COMMUNICATIONS AND WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD MAYBE WHILE YOU'RE HERE, GET SOME OF THAT COMMUNICATION DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SO SO THAT SAID, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER PECK, BY ALL MEANS. BUT IF WE COULD GET STRAIGHT TO THE QUESTION WITHOUT THE SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM BACK THERE TO TALK TO STAFF AND THE STAKEHOLDERS, THAT'D BE GREAT. SO IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU. MISS CLAYSON, PARTICULARLY SINCE YOU HAVE THE DRAIN BEHIND YOUR PROPERTY. THIS IS A THIS IS A QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH ENGINEERS AND STAFF WAS THAT SORT OF TEMPORARY NATURE OF SOME OF THE DRAINAGE ELEMENTS. WE HAD A RAIN EVENT AFTER THE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBORS. WAS THAT SILT FENCING REMOVED PRIOR TO THE RAIN EVENT, SO THAT THAT KIND OF EVENT THAT YOU HAD IN THE VIDEO, DID THAT HAPPEN AGAIN? DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW. >> THIS WAS THE, I BELIEVE, THE LAST EVENT. >> THE LAST EVENT? OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF. >> THEY PUT UP A LITTLE DINKY CHICKEN WIRE AROUND THE GRATES, BUT THE THE STONES ARE SO SMALL AND THE SILT IS JUST WASHING RIGHT OVER AND IT'S JUST CLOGGING UP THE DRAINS. >> I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. MISS. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT YOU CAN READ. THERE'S SOME NOTES ON THERE. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT OKAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER IS CLARK PERKINS. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR. >> LISTENING TO US. I THINK I'M THE LAST SPEAKER TODAY ON THIS TOPIC. I'LL JUST BRING IT HOME. NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM A FEW OF THE OLD NORTH PARK HOMEOWNERS CONCERNING THE LOSSES AND THE DIFFICULTY OF THE NEIGHBOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S GOING THROUGH, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO YOU TODAY FOR YOUR HELP. WE HAVE THREE PRIMARY AREAS OF CONCERN. YOU'VE SEEN THE PHOTOS, BUT THE FIRST ONE CERTAINLY IS THE DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ISSUES, FOLLOWED BY THE LOSS OF PRIVACY AND SECURITY AND THEN THE LOSS OF OUR PROPERTY. NOW, SPECIFIC TO THE DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ISSUES, THE DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ISSUES MUST BE CORRECTED. OUR AFFECTED HOMEOWNERS CAN'T LIVE THIS WAY WITH THIS INTRUSION. AND IT'S AND IT'S HAPPENED IN EVERY HEAVY RAIN EVENT, EVERY RAIN EVENT, ACTUALLY, THIS FLOODING, WE CONTEND, IS CAUSED BY THE DRAINING CHANGE, THE GRADING CHANGES, THE DESIGN OF THE CHANNEL OF RUNOFF NORTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE, AND THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROVEN BY MULTIPLE FLOODS TO BE INSUFFICIENT TO HANDLE THE VOLUME OF REDIRECTED WATER. OLD NORTH PARK HOMEOWNERS NEED THE SOLID ASSURANCE THAT THESE MATTERS WILL BE CORRECTED AND NOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT RAIN EVENT. FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION TO BE TESTED AGAIN. ADDITIONALLY, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HOMEOWNERS CAN PROVIDE ANY FUTURE HOME BUYER THAT FLOODING IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE. SO HERE'S WHAT WE ASK. WE ASK THAT FOR A REVIEW, BE DONE DURING DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND CONSTRUCTION. DRAINAGE OF CONSTRUCTION. DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE PERFORMED BY AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING CONSULTANT. SHOULD DRAINAGE DEFICIENCIES BE CONFIRMED. ALTHOUGH THOSE DEFICIENCIES HAVE TO BE CORRECTED AND FOR THE SAKE OF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED. RIGHT NOW, WE REQUEST THE ISSUANCE OF A STOP WORK ORDER TO BE GRANTED UNTIL [02:05:04] FINDINGS OF RELIABLE CAPABILITY OF DRAINAGE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ARE MADE, AND CORRECTIONS CAN BE MADE MOVING TO THE SITE. LINE PRIVACY AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE'VE HAVE WE HAVE HAD PRIVACY ISSUES, THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THE VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS VISIBLE WELL ABOVE OUR EIGHT FOOT FENCES CANNOT BE OVERSTATED. THIS IS A MAJOR BREACH OF PRIVACY AND OUR SECURITY. WE SEE THE HEADS OF PEOPLE WALKING IN PARKING LOT NEXT TO OUR FENCES AND THEIR FACES, AND WE SEE THE TOPS OF VEHICLES AND OCCUPANTS INSIDE. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THE ISSUE OF THE VEHICLE LIGHTING. AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COMING THROUGH THE GAPS IN THE FENCES AT NIGHT, LOOKING AT THIS PROBLEM FROM ALL SIDES THOUGH, AND WE ARE WANTING TO BE REASONABLE IN ALL OF THIS, GIVEN THAT WHERE WE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS AND WHERE IT CURRENTLY STANDS, WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION AND THAT IS THAT THE CITY GRANTS A VARIANCE FOR THE FENCING AGAINST THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTIES OF TEN FEET, THAT ALL THE CURRENT FENCING ON THE HOMES ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF OLD NORTH PARK AND OLD NORTH PARK ROAD, TO THE WEST OF THE END OF PAXTON WAY, BE REPLACED WITH A TEN FOOT BOARD ON BOARD CEDAR FENCE BOARD ON BOARD TO COVER THE GAPS TO PROTECT THE LIGHT POLLUTION AT NIGHT AND ADD PRIVACY. WE ALSO ASKED THAT THERE BE A FURTHER STUDY ON THE LOCATION OF LIGHT POLES, BECAUSE THE LIGHT POLES ARE CLOSER TO OUR RESIDENTIAL LARGE YARDS, THESE LIGHT POLES ARE NOW POSITIONED ON THE ELEVATED PADS AND THEY PROMOTE LIGHT POLLUTION. AND THEN LASTLY FOR TREE PLACEMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING WE AGREED TO IN THE MOU AND THE LANDSCAPING AND WINDOW SCREENING. HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE HEIGHT CHANGES NOW, BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING PADS HEIGHTS, WE WANT THEM INVOLVED IN, IN TREE PLACEMENT AND AND THE WINDOW SCREENING. SO WE KNOW THAT THAT THAT EVALUATION CAN'T BE DONE UNTIL THE BUILDINGS ARE UP. LASTLY, JUST BRINGING IT HOME, THE LOSS OF USE OF PROPERTY. OLD NORTH PARK HOMEOWNERS HAVE SUFFERED SUFFERED FROM DAMAGE AND NEED FULL REIMBURSEMENT FOR THEIR LOSSES. THEIR LIVES HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD AND THE MESS THAT THEY'RE IN, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE TO REBUILD. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU, CITY COUNCIL, TO HELP US BRING RESOLUTION TO ALL OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO FARTHER THIS WAY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. AND WHO SHOULD. >> WOULD STAY? >> SO IF Y'ALL CAN MAKE CHARLIE HERE AT THE ENTRANCE HERE, HE'LL HE'LL SHOW YOU WHERE Y'ALL CAN HAVE SOME SPACE HERE IN CITY HALL TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND AMY BESSETTE. SO HE'LL MEET YOU RIGHT THERE IN THE WALKWAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE BARNETT. COME DOWN. GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> THANK YOU. >> SIR. THANK YOU. >> YES. >> OKAY. IF YOU CAN. GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS MIKE BARNETT. I OWN COUNTY ROAD BURGER COMPANY, FORMERLY DENTON COUNTY INDEPENDENT HAMBURGER COMPANY. I'M A FLO BABY. BORN AND RAISED HERE. WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL, WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS. I KNOW SOME OF YOU PERSONALLY. I HAVE IMMENSE RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. I'M HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR MYSELF, MY FAMILY, MY BUSINESS, AND MY NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH ON SUNSET STREET. THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION THAT TOOK PLACE ON SUNSET THIS YEAR HAS BEEN DEVASTATING TO OUR BUSINESSES. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A PAINFUL YEAR. I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF. MY REVENUE IS DOWN OVER $60,000 THIS YEAR ALONE, AND I CAN CONTRIBUTE THAT DIRECTLY TO THAT ROAD CONSTRUCTION. AND MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN HIT EVEN WORSE. I MEAN, THIS IS A TRAGIC, TRAGIC SITUATION. THERE'S ONE GENTLEMAN THAT HAS SAID HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE HIS BUSINESS AND FILE BANKRUPTCY. AND HERE'S THE THING. I HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR NINE MONTHS, AND THERE IS NO WAY THIS SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THIS LONG. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN WEEKS. I'M CERTAIN OF THAT. AND THIS IS HOW I KNOW. PEOPLE WOULD SHOW UP. THEY'D WORK FOR A DAY OR TWO, AND THEY'D DISAPPEAR FOR WEEKS. AND THAT HAPPENED OVER AND OVER FOR NINE MONTHS. MY SUNSET NEIGHBORS, IF YOU'RE HERE, WILL YOU RAISE [02:10:05] YOUR HANDS? I'VE SPOKEN TO ALL OF THEM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT THIS. NOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I KNOW THINGS TAKE TIME, BUT I'VE LIVED ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY. I LIVED IN NEW YORK CITY FOR THREE YEARS. I LIVED IN BOISE, IDAHO FOR TEN YEARS. I'VE SEEN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS HAPPEN, AND I'VE SEEN HOW THEY CAN GET DONE QUICKLY. I WATCHED 59TH STREET IN MANHATTAN GET REPAVED IN TEN HOURS. I WITNESSED THAT THAT IS A SIX LANE ROAD THAT'S TWO MILES WIDE. THINGS LIKE THIS CAN GET DONE IF THERE'S FORESIGHT AND PLANNING. SO BACK TO SUNSET. AT NO POINT IN THIS NINE MONTH PERIOD DID I SEE ANYONE FROM THE CITY OF DENTON MONITORING THIS PROJECT. NOT ONE TIME. SO FINALLY, BY JUNE, I MY PATIENCE WAS DONE AND I REACHED OUT TO MAYOR HUDSPETH AND HE RESPONDED VERY QUICKLY, AS HE ALWAYS DOES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. YES, SIR. AND AT THE TIME HE TOLD ME THAT THE STATED DATE OF COMPLETION WAS THANKSGIVING, AND I FOUND THAT UNACCEPTABLE. SO I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR MYSELF. AND WE HAD A FRIENDLY CONVERSATION. BUT AT THE END OF THAT CONVERSATION, HE MADE THE MISTAKE OF GIVING ME HIS CELL NUMBER, AND I KINDLY CONTACTED HIM AT LEAST 2 OR 3 TIMES A WEEK UNTIL THAT PROJECT WAS DONE. AND IT WAS DONE ON OCTOBER 8TH. SO I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO DEDUCE THAT MY PRODDING SPED THAT PROJECT ALONG. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY DID I HAVE TO INSERT MYSELF INTO THAT PROJECT? WHO AT THE CITY OF DENTON IS RIDING HERD ON THESE THINGS? ARE THERE NO LIQUIDATED DAMAGES CLAUSES IN THESE CONTRACTS? I MEAN, YOU DRIVE AROUND THE CITY THAT I LOVE. THERE ARE HALF FINISHED ROAD PROJECTS EVERYWHERE. I JUST FIND THAT UNACCEPTABLE AND THERE IS A DEEP ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THIS STUFF. I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE BUSINESSES LOST. THIS. IT MAKES ME WANT TO CRY. SO WHAT I'M HERE TODAY IS JUST, I DON'T KNOW, TO SHED LIGHT ON THIS, THAT THERE'S NO REASON THIS HAS TO HAPPEN. AND IT'S HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AND OVER. AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN THE CITY DO TO HELP OUR SUNSET BUSINESS DISTRICT REBOUND? BECAUSE WE NEED HELP. >> OKAY. >> COUNCILMEMBER JESTER. >> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING, AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE OTHER BUSINESS PEOPLE FROM THE AREA COMING. YOU HAVE MY I'M JUST SO SORRY. WHAT WE RECOGNIZE AS A COUNCIL IS THAT WE HAVE HAD MISMANAGEMENT IN STREETS WE RECENTLY, AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND IT TO YOU HAD OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR GO THROUGH STREETS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PEOPLE THAT GO, NOT THAT THAT MAKES EVERYTHING OKAY. OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T. I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR YOU AND THE OTHER SUNSET BUSINESS OWNERS TO TRY TO ASSIST WITH THE DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF TIME THE STREET WAS CLOSED. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I WILL CERTAINLY BE TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING AND I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, BUT I AT LEAST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE CORRECT IN THAT WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS AND WE STILL DO. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE TRUST IN THE DIRECTOR THAT IS NOW OVER THAT AREA. WE DO HAVE AN AUDIT NOW TO GO FORWARD WITH, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN TO IMPROVE. AGAIN, I KNOW THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANYTHING BETTER RIGHT NOW, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT CRAZY AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ALL TRUE. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE AND HIGHLIGHTING THESE ISSUES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER SETTLED A LOT OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO SAY. SO I'LL BRING IT TO THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU. AND THAT IS I UNDERSTAND IN THE PAST THERE. THERE WAS A COMPLETE SORT OF BREAKDOWN IN COMMUNICATIONS. BUT MORE RECENTLY, HAVE YOU BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MEMBERS OF THE CITY AND HOW HAS THAT COMMUNICATION GONE? >> WELL, LIKE I SAID, I REACHED OUT TO MAYOR HUDSPETH IN JUNE, AND AT THAT POINT, I JUST FELT LIKE THIS HAS GONE ON FOR FIVE MONTHS AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX MORE MONTHS. I JUST FOUND THAT UNACCEPTABLE. SO AT THAT POINT, I JUST DECIDED TO TAKE MATTERS INTO MY OWN HANDS. AND I STRUCK UP A CONVERSATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR. I MEAN, I'M A BUSINESS PERSON. HE'S HE'S A BUSINESS PERSON. AND I APPEALED TO HIM FROM THAT ANGLE. I SAID, LOOK, YOU'RE KILLING ME HERE. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE POPULATION OF THIS TOWN IS TO THE SOUTH OF ME. AND IF YOU'RE [02:15:06] NORTHBOUND ON CARROLL, YOU CANNOT GET INTO MY BUSINESS. YOU HAVE TO GO PAST THE FAIRGROUNDS AND DO A U-TURN. AND IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHORTCUT UP BY THE OLD HIGH SCHOOL, GOOD LUCK THERE, BECAUSE ALL THOSE ROADS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, TOO. IT'S JUST A MESS. IT'S AN ABSOLUTE MESS. SO I FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A GROUP SESSION HERE BECAUSE IT'S I'M GOING TO BE OKAY. I WANT YOU TO KNOW MY BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE FINE. OKAY? BUT I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS AND IT REALLY MAKES ME WANT TO CRY THAT. BUT BECAUSE INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE FROM THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE NATIONAL PARENT COMPANIES THAT CAN STRONG ARM, YOU KNOW, LANDLORDS FOR SWEETHEART LEASES. WE DON'T GET BIG TAX ABATEMENTS. YOU KNOW, I PAY TWICE AS MUCH FOR BEEF THAN WHATABURGER DOES. SO THE CARD THE CARDS ARE ALREADY STACKED AGAINST US. AND IT'S JUST LIKE IT'S SUCH A HELPLESS FEELING FOR NINE MONTHS TO LOOK OUT THERE. AND ARE THEY GOING TO SHOW UP TODAY? ARE THEY GOING TO DO ANYTHING? AND HONESTLY, NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THE ANSWER WAS NO. OR IF THEY DID, THEY WORKED FOR A COUPLE HOURS AND DISAPPEAR AND YOU WOULDN'T SEE THEM UNTIL NEXT WEEK. >> I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THAT AND MISS CITY MANAGER, I KNOW THAT MR. GARCIA HAS REACHED OUT FOR OTHER PROJECTS. IF YOU COULD PLEASE HAVE HIM REACH OUT TO THESE BUSINESSES. >> YEAH, HE'S GOING TO ACTUALLY TRY TO GRAB THEM WHEN THERE'S. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU, I. >> APPRECIATE IT. THERE'S SOME INFORMATION TO SHARE. AND YOU KNOW WE'RE LEARNING SOME LESSONS HERE. BUT WE WERE SPLIT UP THE PROJECT IN TWO PROJECTS. SO WHEN YOU DIDN'T SEE PEOPLE WORKING THEY WERE AT THE OTHER END. THERE'S THIRD PARTY INSPECTORS. SO THEY'RE NOT CITY OF DENTON INSPECTORS. SO THEY WERE PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT WERE INSPECTORS. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WEAR SOMETHING THAT SAYS INSPECTORS BECAUSE THERE WERE OUT THERE, BUT THEY WERE THIRD PARTY, NOT CITY OF DENTON. AND THEN BECAUSE THEY GOT SO MANY COMPLAINTS, THEY PULLED ALL THE CREWS FROM ALL THE OTHER AREAS AND BROUGHT THEM TO THIS AREA TO COMPLETE IT. THAT'S HOW IT GOT FINISHED BY OCTOBER THE 8TH. SO IT WAS SPLIT IN HALF. THE PROJECT WAS SPLIT IN HALF. SO WHEN YOU DIDN'T SEE THEM WORKING, THEY WERE DOWN AT THE OTHER END. BUT SETH IS HERE AND HE WANTS TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO LEARN WHAT WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO LISTEN AND HEAR MORE SO WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. >> WELL, IT JUST APPEARS TO ME. AND AGAIN, I GREW UP HERE AND I LIVE IN THIS TOWN AND I DO BUSINESS ALL OVER THIS TOWN. IT JUST APPEARS TO ME THERE ARE ALL OF THESE HALF FINISHED ROAD PROJECTS EVERYWHERE. >> SO LET ME LET ME SPEAK TO THAT. SO FIRST I THANK YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR HELP. THERE'S CERTAINLY SUNSET FROM UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO CAROL. COULDN'T BE DONE IN A WEEK. >> NO, I DIDN'T SAY WEEKS. I SAID WEEKS, NOT. >> A WEEK. >> WEEKS. YOU GOT TO. >> BECAUSE WE. >> BECAUSE WE CHANGED. WELL, WE CHANGED THE INFRASTRUCTURE BY COUNTY COUNCIL. WE CHANGED OUT ALL THE PIPES. >> I KNOW THAT. >> AND SO YOU GOT TO YOU HAVE TO FACE THAT. AND YOU COULDN'T FACE THAT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO YOU'D HAVE TO. REPLACE, LET'S SAY, WATER IN A DAY. YOU'D HAVE TO REPLACE SEWER IN A DAY. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. I DON'T WANT TO. >> I DIDN'T SAY A WEEK, I'M SAYING WEEKS. I THINK NINE MONTHS COULD HAVE BEEN EIGHT WEEKS. EASY. >> OKAY, WELL, I JUST I JUST ASK FOR STAFF TO GO OVER THE DATES WITH YOU AND GO OVER THOSE THINGS. HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. ABSOLUTELY VALID POINTS, VALID CONCERNS. CERTAINLY. BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE LOOK INTO THOSE DETAILS. RIGHT. SO THEN YOU COME BACK TO ME AND YOU SAY HERE'S HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED, HERE'S THE TIMELINE, HERE'S THE ISSUES. BUT I ALSO TELL YOU THE PROBLEM THAT THAT STAFF WILL HAVE IS BY COUNCIL DIRECTION. WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO BID LARGER PROJECTS TO GET A BETTER PRICE, NO DIFFERENT THAN IF I COME IN AND BUY ONE HAMBURGER. I'M GETTING A PRICE. IF I COME IN AND BUY 300 HAMBURGERS, I'M GETTING A PRICE. SO THESE PROJECTS ARE YOU'RE CERTAINLY RIGHT. THEY'RE LET IN LARGER CHUNKS SO THAT WE CAN GET A BETTER PRICE SO THAT WE CAN AFFORD GET MORE STREETS DONE BECAUSE WE'RE BEHIND. EVEN WHEN WE GET THESE STREETS DONE, WE'RE BEHIND AND AS FAR AS OUR OVERALL STREET. SO VALID POINTS WILL ABSOLUTELY IDENTIFY THE KEY ISSUES. BUT I'LL SHARE MY SAME. I DON'T WHAT I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE IS THAT THAT YOUR OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT ACCURATE. I, I WANT TO WHAT YOU SAW IS WHAT YOU SAW. AND I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE THEY STARTED THE FIRST PROJECT. THE FIRST BOND PROJECT WAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND MY WIFE SAYS, HEY, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE WORKING AND SO AND SO AND SO IT'S BEEN SINCE EVERY TIME WE HAVE ONE OF THESE THAT THAT'S A THING. BUT BUT THERE'S A SYSTEM TO IT. AND IF THERE'S AS WE IDENTIFY THESE SYSTEM FLAWS, ADDRESS IT. BUT ALSO I ASK THOSE SAME QUESTIONS. MATTER OF [02:20:01] FACT ON PANHANDLE BY RAYZOR RANCH BEFORE THOSE WERE BUILT UP. AND THE ANSWER WAS, HEY, THIS SEGMENT FAILED INSPECTION AND THEY HAD TO REPORT IT. AND SO THAT THEY HAVE THOSE INSPECTORS HAVE A DUTY TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE THE CITIZENS OF DENTON. THEY COULD CERTAINLY HAVE PASSED IT TO GET IT OPEN FASTER, BUT THEY HAD THE CONTRACTOR HAD TO POUR IT TWICE. AND SO THERE'S JUST THERE'S ISSUES ALONG THE WAY. CERTAINLY I WANT TO IDENTIFY THOSE. SEE, WE CAN DO BETTER. AND AND I KNOW BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE PULLED THEM OFF THAT OTHER WHATEVER PROJECT THEY WERE ON, THAT PROJECT GOT DELAYED. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE ALL THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE'RE JUST BETTER ALL THE WAY AROUND, NOT, YOU KNOW, PUSHING WATER AROUND. >> I WOULD JUST SUGGEST MAYBE COMMERCIAL GETS PRIORITY. OKAY. MY NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS BEEN TORN UP BEFORE TOO. IT'S A PAIN, BUT IT DOESN'T COST ME MONEY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> SURE. YEAH. THOSE ARE I MEAN, THE PROBLEM WITH. I TAKE YOUR POINT. GOOD SUGGESTION. BUT HOME BASED BUSINESSES, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, AND THAT'S ALL I. THAT'S ALL I WOULD WE'LL LEAVE WITH YOU TALKING TO SETH AND GETTING SOME DETAILS AND GETTING SOME ANSWERS ON WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT TIMELINE. AND WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE. AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU ALSO LEAVE KNOWING WE'RE DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS. THERE'S THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO PROCESS THROUGH. AND WE WE ASK FOR GRACE. AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE THINGS CERTAINLY. AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE MISSES ARE AND CORRECT THOSE. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GRANTS AVAILABLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SEPARATE AND APART FROM TAXPAYER DOLLARS. BUT TO SEE IF THERE'S GRANTS AVAILABLE, THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. BUT I'LL LET YOU SPEND YOU AND YOUR YOU AND THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS CAN TALK TO SETH THERE AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS THERE, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT TIMING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RAISING AWARENESS. NEXT SPEAKER JEFF. S ONE MORE TIME. YES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS JEFF SHAKY. AND. I'M A RESIDENT, ALONG WITH MY WIFE OF SUNSTONE VILLAGE IN DENTON. AND IT'S MY HONOR TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK TO YOU AND THE FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF THE ARC OF DENTON COUNTY. OUR MISSION STATES THE ARC OF DENTON COUNTY IS A NONPROFIT, ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION THAT IS COMMITTED TO EMPOWERING INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, OR IDD, TO EXERCISE THE SAME RIGHTS, FREEDOMS, AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS. FELLOW CITIZENS ARE, BY PROVIDING FAMILY SUPPORT, PUBLIC AWARENESS, ADVOCACY, SERVICE, AND REFERRAL. WE CALL THESE INDIVIDUALS WITH IDD SELF-ADVOCATES, THE SELF-ADVOCATE LEADERS OF DENTON COUNTY ARE A GROUP OF ADULTS WITH IDD LIVING IN DENTON COUNTY WHO ARE DEDICATED TO THE CONCEPT OF SELF-DETERMINATION FOR ALL CITIZENS. IT IS OUR DESIRE TO HELP THEM BECOME AS INDEPENDENT AS POSSIBLE AND BE SEEN AS A VALUABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY TRULY ARE. TO SELF-ADVOCATE, LEADERS MEET ON THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, STARTING WITH THE BOOK CLUB, IN WHICH WE CHALLENGE THEM TO EXPAND THEIR READING ABILITIES. AFTER THAT, THEIR ADVISOR WILL DIRECT THEM IN RUNNING THEIR OWN MEETING, FOLLOWED BY SPECIAL ACTIVITIES WHICH INCLUDE ICE CREAM SOCIALS, A MARDI GRAS PARTY AND PARADE, AND HAWAIIAN LUAU, AMONG OTHERS. THESE EVENTS ARE CHOSEN BY THE SELF-ADVOCATES AND SUPPORTED BY THE ARC BOARD. DURING EACH YEAR, SEVERAL SPECIAL EVENTS ARE HELD, INCLUDING A PICNIC CALLED ARC IN THE PARK, SPRINGTIME IN MONTE CARLO, WHERE WE OFFER A NIGHT OF CASINO GAMES USING PLAY MONEY, I MIGHT ADD A BUFFET AND PRIZES AND A CONFERENCE THROUGH THE ARC OF TEXAS. WE'RE SEEKING FUNDING TO CONTINUE WITH THESE EVENTS, SUCH AS THE SPRINGTIME OF MONTE CARLO. SPONSORSHIPS, A BUS FOR TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM THE ARC CONFERENCE, WHICH WILL BE HELD AT 2026 AT KALAHARI RESORT AND RESORT IN ROUND ROCK. PLEASE HELP US CONTINUE. I'M SORRY. PLEASE HELP US CREATE THESE AND EVEN MORE OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES FOR BETTER FUTURE FOR THESE ESPECIALLY SPECIAL PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YEAH, IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. CERTAINLY WE'LL SHARE THIS INFORMATION. AND JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL Y'ALL DO TRULY APPRECIATE IT. YES. THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. YES. GREAT TO SEE YOU. THAT TAKES US TO. LAUREN PENN AND AND BILLY, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, CAN YOU SEND ME THAT LAST LINK TO THAT LAST TO JEFF'S COMMENTS? THAT WAY I CAN JUST SHARE THE VIDEO. THAT'LL [02:25:02] BE GOOD. >> OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR HUDSPETH AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LAUREN PENN. I AM A DENTON RESIDENT OF 20 YEARS. I'M A MOM TO THREE AMAZING YOUNG DAUGHTERS AND AN ADVOCATE FOR SAFER STREETS. BUT TONIGHT, I'M HERE SIMPLY AS A MOM WHO IS WORRIED FOR MY CHILDREN'S SAFETY AS THEY WALK AND BIKE TO SCHOOL BEFORE I GET TOO FAR, I DO WANT TO SHARE A COMMENT ON BEHALF OF MY DAUGHTER, HAZEL, WHO IS TEN AND THIS IS HER COMMENT TO SHARE. THE SCARIEST PART ABOUT BIKING TO SCHOOL IS THAT WHEN I CROSS 380, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CARS ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ROAD. IT IS HARD TO KNOW WHEN TO CROSS THE ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S NO CROSSING GUARD. I REGULARLY BIKE TO SCHOOL AND BACK HOME WITH MY TEN YEAR OLD HAZEL AND MY 12 YEAR OLD IVY, FROM THE COMBINED CAMPUSES OF NEWTON RAYZOR ELEMENTARY AND CALHOUN MIDDLE SCHOOL. BY THIS AGE, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEMSELVES HOME ON THEIR OWN, BUT DUE TO THE SAFETY RISKS OF THEIR ROUTE, WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE ALLOWING THEM TO DO SO. WITHOUT ADULT SUPERVISION. WE END UP SPENDING A LOT OF TIME PLANNING AND ARRANGING TIMES WHEN MY HUSBAND, A NEIGHBOR OR MYSELF CAN RIDE ALONG WITH THEM HOME. THIS TAKES TIME OUT OF OUR WORKDAY AND OUR OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT OUR ROUTE IS LIKE AS WE BIKE HOME. WE START FROM CAMPUS BY MERGING ONTO CRESCENT STREET ON A NARROW CAMPUS SIDEWALK. CRESCENT IS A WIDE STREET WITHOUT ANY PAINTED LINES. PARKED CARS LINE UP ALONG THE CURBS TO PICK UP STUDENTS. THERE'S A SMALL SIDEWALK ALONG THE CAMPUS, BUT NO SHOULDER OR BIKE LANE, AND CARS PASS MY KIDS BIKES WITHIN INCHES. THANKFULLY, CITY STAFF CONSTRUCTED PROTECTED BIKE LANES ALONG PART OF CRESCENT. SO ONCE WE'RE IN THIS SHELTERED IN THIS LANE, WE HAVE A MOMENT OF COMFORT. BUT THEN WE TURN RIGHT ONTO MALONE, WHERE THE BIKE LANES ARE REALLY NARROW, THEY'RE UNEVEN, THEY'RE CRUMBLING. CARS TRY TO GIVE US ROOM AS THEY PASS, BUT THEY END UP MERGING INTO THE CENTER TURN LANE, WHICH CAUSES POTENTIAL HEAD ON COLLISIONS AND OTHER MAJOR SAFETY RISKS FOR OUR STUDENTS. FINALLY, WE CROSS UNIVERSITY DRIVE, A STATE HIGHWAY THAT IS SEVEN LANES WIDE. WE CROSS JUST A BLOCK FROM WHERE A PEDESTRIAN WAS STRUCK AND KILLED LAST MONTH WITHOUT ASSISTANCE OF CROSSING GUARDS EVERY DAY. IT SHOULDN'T BE TERRIFYING FOR CHILDREN LIKE MINE TO BIKE LESS THAN A MILE, BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS. FOR DECADES, I KNOW DENTON STUDENTS HAVE HAD TO MAKE THIS TREACHEROUS JOURNEY FROM THE NORTH LAKES NEIGHBORHOOD TO VARIOUS SCHOOLS. BUT IN 2025, THE ENVIRONMENT IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN EVER. THE VEHICLES ARE BIGGER, FASTER AND MORE DEADLY. OUR ROADS ARE WIDER AND HARDER TO CROSS. WE USED TO HAVE CROSSING GUARDS. WE HAVE NOT HAD THEM IN TWO COMING ON TWO YEARS. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS FOR QUICK AND AFFORDABLE SAFETY UPGRADES. I'M ASKING THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT REASONABLE INTERVENTIONS WHILE WE WAIT FOR SOME BIGGER PROJECTS COMING DOWN OUR WAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION HAS GOTTEN GRANTS FROM SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, SO I'M ASKING FOR A LONG CRESCENT, NO PARKING AREA TO PAINT BIKE LANES AND TO PAINT BUMP OUTS AND DAYLIGHTING AROUND ALL OF THE INTERSECTIONS, AND TO WIDEN THE BIKE LANES ON MALONE BY REMOVING THE CENTER TURN LANE. I ALSO THINK WE NEED A MORE ROBUST, CITY FUNDED CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM FOR SCHOOLS WHERE ANY STUDENT MUST CROSS A ROAD MORE THAN FIVE LANES, AND THAT INCLUDES HIGH SCHOOLERS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO CROSSING HIGHWAYS. WE ARE REALLY ASKING FOR YOU TO LISTEN. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND A PERSONAL INVITATION. I HAVE EMAILED ALL OF YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. I COORDINATE SOMETHING CALLED THE BIKE BUS FOR NEWTON RAYZOR STUDENTS WHERE WE BIKE TO SCHOOL TOGETHER EVERY WEDNESDAY. I WOULD INVITE ANY OF YOU TO JOIN US ANY WEEK. I THIS IS AN EQUITY ISSUE. NOT EVERY FAMILY HAS A VEHICLE. MY HUSBAND AND I WORK FROM HOME. WE CAN'T ALWAYS LEAVE AND GO PICK UP OUR KIDS. WE THINK THAT OUR KIDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEMSELVES HOME ON THEIR OWN AT THIS POINT. AND I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER MAKING SOME SHORT TERM CHANGES SO THAT OUR KIDS CAN BE SAFE GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT AND APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS. O MAYOR PRO TEM, GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR LAUREN, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SPEAKING TO US. I DO HAVE IT ON MY CALENDAR FOR NOVEMBER 12TH TO TRY TO JOIN YOU. I'VE RIDDEN WITH THE BIKE BUS SEVERAL TIMES, BUT I'VE NEVER COME FROM YOUR DIRECTION CROSSING UNIVERSITY, SO I'VE GOT IT ON MY CALENDAR FOR FOR NOVEMBER 12TH. I DO HOPE IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT CROSSING GUARDS AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST FOR THIS TYPE OF PROPOSAL. JUST SO WE HAVE SOME IDEA, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S OTHER AREAS WHERE KIDS ARE CROSSING REALLY BIG STREETS. AND IN THE INTERIM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT STAFF CAN [02:30:05] DO TO IMPROVE THE PHYSICAL SITUATION WITH WITH THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT REQUIRE NEW PAINT OR, YOU KNOW, SPENDING MORE MONEY IF THERE'S CONES OR SOMETHING TEMPORARY, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE THAT BIKE LANE DEAD ENDS ON CRESCENT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING TEMPORARY WE CAN DO IN THE INTERIM UNTIL WE HAVE FUNDS TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'D APPRECIATE IF WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT. >> I WILL HAVE STAFF DO AN EVALUATION OF CRESCENT STREET AND THEN ON THE CROSSING GUARDS. WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES. NOW WE ARE EVALUATING EVERY SCHOOL SITE, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE. AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS CROSSWALKS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IT BEING TO BE REAL HONEST WE HAVE NOT YOU SAID TWO YEARS WE HAVEN'T DONE UNIVERSITY. THE WE PAY FOR THAT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS AND THE SCHOOL DOES NOT PAY FOR IT. SO WE IT'S STRETCHING US NOW BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE SCHOOLS, MAKING SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE CORNER IS COVERED IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WE DON'T HAVE GAPS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A VERY GOOD SYSTEM. AND SO OUR TRANSPORTATION CREW IS EVALUATING EACH SITE AND DOING IT BY DATA AND SEEING WHERE THE KIDS ARE CROSSING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WE'LL HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT. AND I'M GOING TO SHARE THIS PACKET IF YOU DON'T MIND. AND WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE THEM TAKE A PEEK AT AT CRESCENT STREET. >> YOU DO THAT. AND I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE ANYONE ON COUNCIL TO JUST OBSERVE THAT INTERSECTION AT 3:00. >> AND THE INTERSECTION. >> AT MALONE AND UNIVERSITY DRIVE. I HAVE I HAVE DONE AS MUCH AS I CAN TO MAKE THOSE REQUESTS. AND I GOT TO THE POINT RECENTLY WHEN I MADE THIS DRIVE, MADE THIS BIKE RIDE WITH MY DAUGHTER, JUST EXPERIENCING IT AGAIN. >> IS THERE A CROSSWALK THERE? >> THERE'S. I'M SORRY. THERE IS A CROSSWALK. >> OKAY. >> THERE IS NOT ANY ADULT SUPERVISION. >> AND THERE'S NO. >> AND THERE USED TO BE WHEN NEWTON BEFORE NEWTON RAYZOR MOVED. >> YEAH. AND THAT'S THE THING. ONCE THE SCHOOL MOVES, WE MOVE. >> WE HAVEN'T MOVED. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> WE STILL LIVE THERE. >> AND WE UNDERSTAND. BUT HERE'S OUR PROBLEM. WE HAVE TO EVALUATE EACH SITE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. AND WE HAVE TO DO IT BASED ON THE SCHOOL SITE. AND SO I GET IT, I GET IT, I'M WITH YOU. BUT BUT I WILL HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT. I'LL HAVE THEM LOOK AT THE CRESCENT STREET. BUT WHERE WE PUT OUR DOLLARS IS WHERE THE SCHOOL IS. AND SAFE CROSSING TO GET TO THE SCHOOL AND, AND THEN BACK ACROSS THE SCHOOL WHERE THE. AND THEN WE'VE LOOKED AT CROSSWALKS. WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL SORTS OF THINGS. I ASSURE YOU, FARHAN AND HIS CREW ARE DOING A YEOMAN'S JOB TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE. IT'S THEY'RE BEHIND. THEY'RE EVALUATING A BUNCH OF STREETS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT TO ASK. BUT WE WON'T FORGET YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. AND. THAT TAKES [4. CONSENT AGENDA] US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING WAS PULLED. OKAY, GREAT. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> COUNCILPERSON JESTER, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT. >> TWO, SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 7 TO 0. OKAY. THAT LET ME GET THERE. TAKES US TO. OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. SO GO TO B. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM B FIRST. AND THAT'S [B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Public Facilities (PF) District to Mixed-Use Downtown (MD) District on approximately 1.08 acres of land, and from Mixed-Use Neighborhood (MN) District to Mixed-Use Downtown (MD) District on approximately 42.62 acres, totaling approximately 43.7 acres of land, generally located north of Eagle Drive and south of Sycamore Street, between Bell Avenue and Myrtle Street in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the city’s official zoning map; providing that existing single-family residential uses within the area subject to the change in zoning district and use classification shall remain legal uses and shall not be made non-conforming by this ordinance; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted [3-1] to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Ketchersid and second by Commissioner McDuff. (Z25-0011a, Expanding Opportunity in Southern Downtown, Sean Jacobson)] Z250011A. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS REGARDING A CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM PUBLIC FACILITIES DISTRICT TO MIXED USE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 1.08 ACRES OF LAND. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SHAWN JACOBSON HERE TO PRESENT Z 2511 A EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES IN SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN. THIS IS A CITY INITIATED REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 43.7 ACRES FROM THE CURRENT PUBLIC FACILITIES AND MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS TO THE MIXED USE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. OUR FUTURE LAND USE IN THIS AREA IS DOWNTOWN DENTON, AND THIS REQUEST DOES COMPLY WITH OUR CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL FOR ZONING CASES, ALTHOUGH AS A CITY INITIATED CASE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY HELD TO THAT [02:35:03] CRITERIA. WE EXAMINED IT AND DETERMINED THAT IT MEETS THEM. SO I WANT TO WALK YOU BRIEFLY THROUGH THE CRITERIA THAT STAFF LOOKED AT SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DECISION. A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. IN 2002, THE SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA, ROUGHLY SOUTH OF SYCAMORE TO EAGLE, WAS ZONED DOWNTOWN COMMERCIAL GENERAL. JUST LIKE THE AREA AROUND THE SQUARE. IN 2010, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE DOWNTOWN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH DREW A BOUNDARY AROUND DOWNTOWN CORE THAT EXCLUDED THAT SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA, MOST LIKELY BECAUSE THE FLOODPLAIN IN THAT AREA MADE DEVELOPMENT FAIRLY UNLIKELY AT THAT TIME. IN 2019, WHEN WE HAD THE CITYWIDE REZONING, EVERY PROPERTY GOT A NEW ZONING DISTRICT BASED ON THE NEW CODE, AND THAT SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA WENT TO MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF MIXED USE DOWNTOWN. ONLY THE AREA AROUND THE SQUARE IN THAT TIP BECAME MD. IN 2024, WE DEALT WITH THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUE. THE CITY COMPLETED A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT TO REMOVE THAT SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA FROM THE FLOODPLAIN AND ELIMINATE THE BARRIER TO DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. FOLLOWING THAT, WE HAD THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN PROCESS, WHICH I BELIEVE MANY OF YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY SAID TO US IN OUR MANY TIMES SPEAKING WITH THEM WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE MORE BUSINESSES, MORE FOCUS AND MORE LIFE IN THAT AREA SOUTH OF THE SQUARE THAT HAD REALLY NOT RECEIVED MUCH ATTENTION AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO MUCH WHILE THE FLOODPLAIN WAS THERE. SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN WAS THAT WE MOVED TOWARDS A FUTURE SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN IN THIS AREA WITH NEW HOUSING, SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, POTENTIALLY A FUTURE PARK, AND ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT THE PLAN RECOMMENDED. FIRST STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO WAS TO REZONE THAT AREA SO THAT IT WOULD AGAIN HAVE A DOWNTOWN ZONING, AS IT HAD UP UNTIL 2019, THAT IT BE GIVEN THAT MD DOWNTOWN ZONING, THAT THE AREA AROUND THE SQUARE HAS. STAFF WENT AHEAD AND ANALYZED THAT AND HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESS OWNERS FROM THE AREA. AND OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT FOR MOST OF THAT AREA, IT SHOULD HAVE THAT MD ZONING GIVEN TO IT TO EXPAND OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY'S DESIRE FOR MORE LIFE AND DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. AS A FIRST STEP TO IMPLEMENT THE VISION OF THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN, WHICH COUNCIL PASSED BRIEFLY. THAT ZONING ESSENTIALLY GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY TO PROPERTY OWNERS. IT LETS THEM USE MORE OF THEIR LOTS. IT TAKES AWAY THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM, A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING SO THAT BUSINESS OWNERS CAN DECIDE WHAT AMOUNT OF PARKING MAKES SENSE IN A WALKABLE AREA. IT ALLOWS SMALLER LOTS TO BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE LESS HAS TO BE SPENT ON LANDSCAPING. IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND OUR FUTURE LAND USE IN THIS AREA IS DOWNTOWN DENTON, SO THE MOST APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT IS MD MIXED USE DOWNTOWN FOR THIS AREA. MD ALSO HELPS US MOVE TOWARDS SOME OF OUR OTHER GOALS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN, ENCOURAGING COMPACT DEVELOPMENT ALONG KEY CORRIDORS LIKE ELM AND LOCUST, WHICH RUN THROUGH THIS AREA, ENCOURAGING REINVESTMENT AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CORE OF OUR CITY. THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS NOT SEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT, BECAUSE PRIVATE INVESTMENT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. WHEN YOU HAD A FLOODPLAIN THAT DIDN'T LET YOU EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS. THE AMAZING THING, THOUGH, IS THAT WE DO HAVE GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS AREA, SOME OF WHICH HAS RECENTLY BEEN PUT IN BY TXDOT. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO SEE MORE DEVELOPMENT. IT HELPS US MOVE TOWARDS OUR HOUSING GOALS BECAUSE MD MAKES IT EASIER TO DEVELOP TOWNHOMES AND SMALL MULTIFAMILY, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO REMOVED FROM THAT BURDEN OF PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN. THIS IS AN AREA, AS YOU KNOW, THAT IS PRIMARILY OLDER, COMMERCIAL, MULTIFAMILY, SOME SINGLE FAMILY AND MANY VACANT LOTS WHERE MD WOULD ALLOW THOSE LOTS POTENTIALLY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP. WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE AWARE OF POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS, AND STAFF LOOKED AT THAT. WE WILL STILL HAVE FOLLOWING THIS, THE PROTECTION OF THE HEIGHT TRANSITION BUFFER, WHICH REQUIRES THAT BUILDINGS BE LIMITED TO THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT AROUND THEM, UP TO 50FT AWAY FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL ZONING. WE HAVE OUR STANDARD USE BUFFERS THAT REQUIRE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE HAVE NON-CONFORMING PROTECTIONS FOR BUSINESSES. THERE WILL BE SOME USES THAT MAY BE MADE NON-CONFORMING, BUT THEY'LL BE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE JUST AS THEY HAVE. AND FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SPECIFICALLY, WE WROTE THE ORDINANCE TO ENSURE THAT ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT MAY BE REZONED BY THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE LEGAL AND CONFORMING USES. NOTHING WILL CHANGE FOR THEM. SO WITH THAT, WE DID DO OUR STANDARD OUTREACH AND MAILING TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS. WE RECEIVED FIVE RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION AND 12 IN SUPPORT. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE DID HOLD THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. WE PRESENTED ALL THESE FINDINGS TO FOLKS IN THE AREA AT THE TIME. THEY HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION, AND THEY WERE UNANIMOUS IN [02:40:06] THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS REZONING. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING WITH THE CONDITIONS PRESENTED IN THE BACKUP. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS WANT TO SPEAK, BUT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. SEAN, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT WHAT WHAT'S THE MECHANISM FOR MAKING THE NONCONFORMING THE POTENTIAL NONCONFORMING ELEMENTS CONTINUE TO BE CONFORMING BECAUSE ARE WE CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF MD? HOW ARE WE MAKING THEM CONTINUE TO BE CONFORMING OTHER THAN JUST STATEMENT IN THE ORDINANCE? AND AND IF IT IS JUST THAT, WILL IT NOT FORCE YOU AND FUTURE PLANNERS AFTER YOU TO KIND OF LIKE, WHOA, THIS IS THIS IS MD. I GOT TO GO BACK AND CHECK THE THE MICRO RULES FOR THIS. CAN CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT. HOW WE'RE KEEPING THEM CONFORMING. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE. IT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY LONG ORDINANCE. SO ONE OF THE TWO THINGS YOU'LL SEE CLEARLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IS THAT WE HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LIST OF THOSE PROPERTIES AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE, AS AN ATTACHMENT. THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LEGALLY EXISTING. THEY CAN CONTINUE AND THAT RIGHT IS PROTECTED. WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND AMEND MD IF WE NEED TO, BECAUSE MD WHEN IT WAS CREATED, THERE WERE NO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THAT DISTRICT. AND SO RIGHT NOW, THE BEST WAY FOR US TO DO THAT IS TO PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE. IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE CAN ADJUST IN THE FUTURE. >> AND JUST FUTURE PLANNERS WILL JUST HAVE TO NOTE THOSE HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES. OKAY, COOL. >> AS WE DO IN MANY CASES. >> ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU. I'M I LIKE THIS I LIKE THIS VERY MUCH. AND IT SEEMS TO ME FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, YOU'RE RELAXING A LOT OF RULES AND MAKING MAKING THINGS FLOW ORGANICALLY. BUT I'M CURIOUS THAT YOU HAD FIVE PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION. WHAT WHAT WERE WAS WAS THERE ANY THEME TO TO THOSE OPPOSITIONS? >> SO IN A LOT OF CASES, I WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE FOLKS, THOSE FOLKS AFTERWARDS. THE STATE MAKES US SEND FAIRLY TERRIFYING LETTERS THAT SAY, THIS MIGHT MAKE YOU CEASE OPERATIONS. ONCE I WAS ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS, SAY, YOU CAN KEEP OPERATING YOUR BUSINESS, WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY YOUR HOME. IN ALMOST EVERY CASE, WE NO LONGER HAD AN ISSUE. THEY MAY NOT HAVE OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWN IT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. >> OKAY, OKAY. GOOD TO HEAR. I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION TO THOSE TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE THERE IS. LET'S SEE. KRISTEN KENDRICK BEGLEY COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE DENTON MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION. I SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THAT BOARD AND I HAVE BEEN FOR TWO YEARS. WE WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED AS AN ORGANIZATION WITH THE WHOLE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON, MASTER PLAN CREATION, FEEDBACK. EVERY SESSION THAT THEY HAD, MOST OF OUR BUSINESSES PARTICIPATED IN THOSE FEEDBACK SESSIONS TO HELP PROVIDE THAT, THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS THEN TAKEN AND INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING CHANGE WOULD ALLOW IS TO ALLOW FOR MORE DIVERSITY, A BETTER VIBRANT COMMUNITY, OPTIONS FOR HOW DEVELOPMENT CAN OCCUR. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SORT OF THE VISION THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THAT DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON BY CHANGING THE ZONING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL WITH COMMERCIAL BELOW THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD SUPPORT MORE RESIDENTIAL IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO CREATE THAT SORT OF LIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT, LIVE WORK AND PLAY ENVIRONMENT. WE'VE GOT AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THAT IS FANTASTIC, AND WE DO WANT TO SEE BETTER INFILL IN THESE AREAS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED IN OUR SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA. SO BY CHANGING THE ZONING, WE WOULD REALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE SMARTER DEVELOPMENT, TO SEE THINGS THAT WOULD HELP DOWNTOWN GROW IN A WAY THAT WILL SUPPORT OUR CURRENT EXISTING BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN AND AND GET MORE PEOPLE TO RESIDE, LIVE, WORK, PLAY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. IT IS A VERY POSITIVE THING FOR DOWNTOWN. I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AS WELL, AND I DID GET A CHANCE TO HEAR THE OPPOSITION AND THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE WERE EXPRESSING IN THEIR RESIDENTIAL AND THEIR BUSINESSES THAT WERE LOCATED DOWNTOWN. AND SEAN MENTIONED THEY REALLY WERE ALL ADDRESSED IN THE VERBIAGE OF THIS. I THINK IT'S BEEN A VERY I THINK IT'S A VERY SMARTLY [02:45:05] WRITTEN CODE FOR THE ZONING CHANGE, AND I THINK THAT IT ADDRESSES THE WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE BUFFERS SO THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO HAVE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WON'T FEEL LIKE THEIR PROPERTIES ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, BEING INFRINGED UPON. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, AS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN GROW IN A WAY THAT CONTAINS THE VIBRANCY OF WHAT IS ALREADY THERE AND CONTINUES TO BUILD UPON THAT. AND ULTIMATELY, WE THINK THIS REZONING WILL ALLOW THAT MORE EFFICIENTLY. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER IS BRAD ANDREWS. COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M BRAD ANDREWS, I, I OUR OFFICE IS AT 212 SOUTH ELM STREET, JUST A COUPLE OF BLOCKS SOUTH OF THE SQUARE. I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT. MOST OF THE TIME I DO A FEW OTHER THINGS, BUT I DO A LOT OF THAT. AGAIN, JUST A COUPLE OF BLOCKS SOUTH OF THE SQUARE AND VERY ACTIVE IN THAT AREA. WE'VE REALLY LOVED THE SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA, DOWNTOWN IN GENERAL, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE IN BRINGING A LOT OF THAT AREA OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, AND THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO, BUT WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROGRESS AND THAT THAT AREA COMING OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AS, AS SHAWN HAS INDICATED, CERTAINLY WILL, YOU KNOW, GET A LOT, OF LOT OF PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT WAYS TO REDEVELOP SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES. AS I SAID, LOVE DOWNTOWN IN PARTICULAR, ALWAYS FELT LIKE THE SOUTHERN AREA HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUE. I TALKED TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES ALL THE TIME THAT WANT TO BE LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND FRANKLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS, BUT WE COULD USE SOME VARIETY AND SOME SOME STUFF OFF OF JUST THE SQUARE IN NEW OFFICES AND OTHER RETAIL OPTIONS THAT THAT DON'T EXIST RIGHT NOW. AND SO I THINK THIS THIS CHANGE WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, ENABLE THAT. ALSO TALK TO PEOPLE REGULARLY WHO WANT TO LIVE DOWNTOWN AND, YOU KNOW, OR CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LIMITED OPTIONS THERE AS WELL. AND SO I THINK THIS COULD HELP ON THAT FRONT, THIS ZONING CHANGE FROM MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MIXED USE DOWNTOWN IS EXACTLY THE FORWARD THINKING ADJUSTMENT THAT WILL HELP KIND OF CLOSE THAT GAP. THE FLEXIBILITY, HIGHER DENSITY, LESS RESTRICTIVE SETBACKS, AND NO PARKING MINIMUMS GIVE DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THE CONFIDENCE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT PROJECTS IN THIS AREA. INSTEAD, INSTEAD OF FACING THE STANDARD OR OUTDATED STANDARDS, YOU ARE ENSURING THAT HOUSING, RETAIL, OFFICE AND ENTERTAINMENT CAN ALL FLOURISH TOGETHER. I WANT TO COMMEND SHAWN AND THE REST OF THE STAFF FOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND BEING PROGRESSIVE IN THE THINKING ON THIS. LIKE I SAID, THE PROGRESS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE IN REMOVING A LOT OF THIS AREA OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN IS A GREAT STEP, BUT I THINK UPDATING THE ZONING IS A VERY SMART NEXT STEP TO UNLOCK THE FULL POTENTIAL OF THE SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO ANYONE CAN COME DOWN AND SPEAK AND JUST FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WOULD SPEAK ON IT, SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SHAWN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU IN THIS AREA. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND MAKE SURE WE STRIKE A BALANCE. AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND I FORGET WHAT THOSE THOSE KIND OF REQUIREMENTS WE PUT IN PLACE. ALL THAT AROUND FOOD TRUCKS. THERE'S THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IN THIS SPACE THAT AREN'T DEVELOPED THAT JUST LOADED IT UP WITH A FOOD TRUCK. AND I GET THAT RIGHT. THE GOAL IS HOPEFULLY THEY GROW OUT OF THAT AND FIND A BRICK AND MORTAR SPACE. BUT THERE'S A LOT IN THIS AREA. AND THAT ALSO COULD BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO, YOU KNOW, HEY, I'M DOING OKAY BUSINESS WISE. I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH DEVELOPING OR REDEVELOPING THAT SORT OF THING. WHAT WHAT DO WE PUT IN PLACE AND HOW DOES THIS ZONING CHANGE AFFECT FOOD TRUCK REQUIREMENTS? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER AREA, I THINK. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE PUT IN PLACE AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THIS? >> SO I'M GOING TO ANSWER CAREFULLY SO I DON'T GET OUTSIDE OF ANYTHING THAT I KNOW. I DO KNOW THAT THE CHANGE FROM M N TO MD SHOULD HAVE LITTLE OR NO IMPACT ON FOOD TRUCKS. I [02:50:03] ALSO KNOW THAT THE STATE, BY THEIR ACTION, HAS PUT SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT WE CAN GOVERN IN TERMS OF FOOD TRUCKS, BUT IN TERMS OF THE EXACT RULES, I CAN'T NECESSARILY. >> SURE IF YOU IF YOU CAN FOLLOW UP, BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I MEAN, JUST WHAT THAT WHAT THAT IN BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE ARE WHAT'S WHAT THE STATE PROHIBITS OR THOSE CHANGES. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IF YOU CAN KIND OF EDUCATE ME ON THAT. OH, OKAY. >> I CAN. >> TRY TO ASSIST WITH THAT. SO TO DATE WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY CHANGES TO THE CODE. WE CURRENTLY DON'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS THE SINGLE FOOD TRUCK. WE CONSIDER THAT AN ACCESSORY USE IF THERE'S A PRIMARY BUSINESS ON SITE. OTHERWISE IF THEY REACH A CERTAIN THRESHOLD IT COULD BE CONSIDERED A FOOD TRUCK COURT. BUT CURRENTLY THE UPDATES THAT YOU MAY BE THINKING OF THAT WE ALL HAD A WORK SESSION DISCUSSION WITH YOU BACK IN THE SPRING HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE THE LEGISLATURE ENACTED THAT MIGHT IMPACT THOSE. SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE AMENDMENTS, CONTINUING TO DO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH WITH THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS THAT WAS REQUESTED OF US. AND WE'LL BRING THOSE CHANGES BACK BEFORE YOU ALL IN THE NEAR FUTURE, HOPEFULLY. >> OKAY. GOT IT. AND SO THAT WOULD BE ALSO THE INSPECTION AND ALL THOSE THINGS WE TALKED ALL THOSE THINGS WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THE TO THE KITCHEN AND ALL THOSE THINGS. >> CORRECT. SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN LIMITED BY THE STATE BECAUSE THEY'VE TAKEN OVER IN MOST INSTANCES, THE HEALTH INSPECTION COMPONENT OF THAT, AND CREATED A STATE DIVISION THAT WILL DO THAT MOVING FORWARD. BUT THERE ARE SOME ALLOWANCES FOR THE CITY TO PARTNER WITH THE STATE AND CONTINUE LOCAL INSPECTIONS AS WELL. SO STAFF IS INVESTIGATING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. >> YEAH. THEN I'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT THAT HOW THAT HOW THAT COMES BACK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT. >> SIX. >> COUNCILPERSON JESTER, I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. AND I THINK THIS IS A BIG STEP FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> AND I'D LIKE TO SECOND AND MAYOR, IS IT OKAY IF I MAKE A COUPLE STATEMENTS AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT'S PUT ALL THIS HARD WORK INTO IT. THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN GOT A GOLD AWARD FROM APA, THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION TEXAS CHAPTER FOR URBAN DESIGN. SO CONGRATULATIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING AN AWARD THIS FRIDAY AT THE CONFERENCE. BUT THIS IS A HUGE WIN FOR THE CITY OF DENTON. IT WILL ENABLE THE CREATION OF MORE SMALL BUSINESSES POTENTIALLY. THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THEM POP UP. IS IN DEVELOPMENT SIMILAR TO THIS. AND AS OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE KIND OF MENTIONED, MORE PEOPLE LIVING DOWNTOWN IS MORE CUSTOMERS TO THE EXISTING AND MAYBE NEW BUSINESSES. DURING THE WEEK ESPECIALLY, I HEAR THE SALES AND THE FOOT TRAFFIC KIND OF IS BIGGEST ON THE WEEKENDS, AND HAVING PEOPLE LIVING THERE ALL THE TIME WILL INCREASE BUSINESS FOR THE OTHER, FOR THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. SO I THINK THIS IS A A GREAT WIN FOR DENTON. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SEEING NONE LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES TAKES US BACK TO FIVE A ID 251219. CONDUCT THE FIRST OF [A. Conduct the first of two public hearings of the City of Denton, Texas regarding the adoption of a Strategic Partnership Agreement between the City of Denton and Denton County Municipal Utility District No. 16.] TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, REGARDING THE ADOPTION OF THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF DENTON AND DENTON. DENTON COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 16 NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FOR THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, AN AMENDMENT OR AN AMENDED AND RESTATED STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT FOR THE MEADOWS MUD. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE HISTORY OF THE MUD, MOST RECENTLY, CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK ADOPTED A AMENDED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDED THIS STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH IT. SO LAST WEEK, ON OCTOBER 21ST, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONSENT TO A RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL 20 ACRES SHOWN IN PURPLE. THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IS A 1000 ACRE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE TIMELINE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS ITEM REQUIRES NO ACTION. BUT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE THE AMENDED AND RESTATED STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL BE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 2ND, WHERE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE AND TAKE ACTION. AT THAT POINT, A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT IS FOR A LIMITED PURPOSE. ANNEXATION FOR THE COLLECTION OF SALES TAX, AND THEN ALSO INCLUDES POTENTIAL FULL ANNEXATION AT CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION IN THE FUTURE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. OPEN PEOPLE SPEAK. AND THEN ALSO ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. AND AGAIN THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING. YOU CAN SPEAK AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING [A. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton by three separate votes, each being conducted on September 16, 2025, October 21, 2025, and December 2, 2025, granting a nonexclusive gas franchise to Universal Natural Gas, LLC, for use of public rights-of-way in a designated area in the City of Denton for the purpose of constructing, maintaining and operating a system of pipelines and other facilities for the provision, transportation, distribution and conveyance of gas to customers in such designated area; authorizing execution of a franchise agreement between the City of Denton and Universal Natural Gas, LLC, providing for compensation to the City for the use of the public right-of-ways, providing terms, conditions and requirements related to the use of public rights-of-way in the City of Denton and to the construction, maintenance and operation of pipelines and other facilities for the provision, distribution and transportation of gas to customers in the designated area of the City of Denton; providing for publication; and providing an effective date.] [02:55:02] NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT TAKES US TO OUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. FIRST OF WHICH SIX A ID 251545. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON BY THOSE BY THREE SEPARATE VOTES, EACH BEING CONDUCTED ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2025, 21ST AND DECEMBER 2ND. GRANTING NON-EXCLUSIVE GAS FRANCHISE TO UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS, LLC. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE SECOND TIME CITY COUNCIL IS SEEING THIS. YOU SAW THIS INITIALLY ON SEPTEMBER 16TH. IT'S A POTENTIAL FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS. SO WHAT IS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT? IT ALLOWS THE USE OF THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY FOR PROVISION OF GAS SERVICES. THIS AGREEMENT IS WITH UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS. AND THEN THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT IS STRUCTURED AFTER OUR EXISTING FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH ATMOS. THE PROPOSED SERVICE AREA IS FOR HUNTER RANCH DEVELOPMENT AND THEN LEGENDS RANCH OFF US 380. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE SOUTHWEST PARK ADJACENT TO HUNTER RANCH. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE TERMS FOR THIS. SO IT WOULD BE A TEN YEAR AGREEMENT WITH A15 YEAR RENEWAL. IT ALLOWED THE USE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. THEY WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF THEIR INTENT TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND WOULD BE REQUIRED TO RELOCATE LINES IN THE EVENT THE CITY REQUEST THEM TO. THEY'LL PAY A FRANCHISE PAYMENT OF 5% OF GROSS RECEIPTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, STAFF NEGOTIATED THAT THEY WOULD CONNECT TO THE SOUTHWEST PARK AT THE COMPANY'S COSTS. SO AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, YOU SAW THIS INITIALLY ON SEPTEMBER 16TH. WE HAVE THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR A VOTE, AND THEN IT WILL COME FOR A THIRD READING ON DECEMBER 2ND. AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THE UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS WILL POST THE ORDINANCE IN THE RECORD CHRONICLE, AND THEY HAVE TO FILE AN ACCEPTANCE LETTER WITHIN 60 DAYS THAT WOULD MAKE THAT AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE. >> OKAY. SO MAKE SURE I TRACK WITH YOU. THOSE NEXT TWO TIMES WILL VOTE AS WELL. >> THE ONE NEXT TIME ON DECEMBER 2ND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER VOTE. >> GOT IT. OKAY. >> GOT IT. SO WE'LL VOTE TODAY AND THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER VOTE ON DECEMBER 2ND. >> SECOND. >> GOT IT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE I'LL TAKE A MOTION. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 7 TO 0. [B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton to declare the intent to reimburse capital program expenditures of General Government ($109,770,635), the Solid Waste Utility ($18,249,000), the Water Utility ($55,651,541), the Wastewater Utility ($141,892,454), and the Electric Utility ($58,434,588) with Tax-Preferred Obligations (Certificates of Obligation and General Obligation Bonds) with an aggregate maximum principal amount not to exceed $383,998,218; and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (6-0)] TAKES US TO SIX B ID 251624. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON TO DECLARE THE INTENT TO REIMBURSE CAPITAL PROGRAM EXPENDITURES OF GENERAL GOVERNMENT. THE SOLID WASTE UTILITIES AND WATER UTILITIES, WASTEWATER UTILITIES AND ELECTRIC UTILITY WITH TAX PREFERRED OBLIGATIONS. >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MATT HAMILTON OF FINANCE, HERE TO PRESENT THE 2026 REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE. THE PURPOSE OF THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE IS TO ALLOW CIP PROJECTS TO START WITH EXISTING CASH THAT THE CITY HAS WITH THE INTENT TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES WITH BOND PROCEEDS WHEN THE SALE OCCURS LATER ON THIS YEAR. SO IN ORDER TO DO SO, THE IRS REQUIRES FORMAL DOCUMENTATION OF THE CITY'S INTENT TO REIMBURSE ITSELF. WITH TAX EXEMPT BONDS. GENERALLY, THE SALE OF BONDS IS WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF ADOPTION OF THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE OR BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. IN OUR CASE, WE INTEND TO SELL THE BONDS IN JUNE OF 2026. THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE IS ALLOWED BY THE CITY'S DEBT POLICY, AND AN IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE CITY TO ISSUE DEBT. IT JUST ALLOWS US TO REIMBURSE FOR ANY EXPENSES THAT WE INCUR PRIOR TO THE BOND SALE. SO AS A SUMMARY AND EACH OF THE SUMMARIES THAT YOU SEE ALIGN WITH THE ADOPTED BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED ON SEPTEMBER 16TH FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. IN REGARD TO THE 2023 BOND ELECTION, TOTAL OF 44.2 MILLION, INCLUDING 18.1 MILLION FOR PROPOSITION A, 25.5 MILLION FOR PROPOSITION B, AND 503,000 FOR PROPOSITION D, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC ART ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIRE STATIONS AND ANIMAL CENTER. A SUMMARY OF THE CO GENERAL [03:00:08] GOVERNMENT CIP 58.8 MILLION FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING 16 AND EXCUSE ME, IN ADDITION TO 6.7 MILLION FOR THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, FOR A TOTAL CO ISSUANCE FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT OF 65.5 MILLION. FOR THE UTILITIES, THE CO ISSUANCE 18.2 MILLION FOR SOLID WASTE, AND OUR UTILITY SYSTEM, WHICH INCLUDES WATER, WASTEWATER AND ELECTRIC. FOR THE PURPOSES OF ISSUING BONDS. A TOTAL OF 255.9 MILLION FOR TOTAL UTILITIES. CO ISSUANCE OF 274.2 MILLION. SO, A SUMMARY OF THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE AND A DETAILED PROJECT LIST IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP OF THE ORDINANCE. EXHIBIT A THE TOTAL IS 383.9 MILLION. SO LOOKING AT NEXT STEPS IN APRIL OF APRIL OF THIS COMING YEAR, WE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO ADOPT WHAT'S CALLED A NOTICE OF INTENTION, WHICH IS A A SET AMOUNT THAT WE PUBLISH IN THE NEWSPAPER, WHICH SETS THE CEILING FOR THE ULTIMATE BOND SALE. AND SO AT THAT TIME, WE'LL COME FORWARD WITH ANY DECREASES OR REDUCTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE CIP, WHETHER PROJECTS MAY BE CHANGED IN SCHEDULE OR ANY OTHER CHANGES. AND SO AT THAT TIME, THAT'S WHEN COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING THOSE CHANGES IN MAY OF 26, COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER A PARAMETERS ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF BOTH THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. AS I MENTIONED, JUNE IS THE PROJECTED BOND SALE. IF MARKET CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE AT THE TIME, AND THEN 30 DAYS LATER IN JULY, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE CLOSING ON THE BOND SALE AND RECEIVING THE PROCEEDS, WHICH WE WOULD USE TO REIMBURSE FOR ANY EXPENSES THAT OCCURRED PRIOR TO THAT DATE. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. WHAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF THE MARKET NOT BEING FAVORABLE? LIKE IF THERE'S SOME PERCENTAGE OR SOMETHING YOU CAN THROW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, THAT WOULD KIND OF MAKE US BACK OFF MAYBE. >> YEAH, I THINK I MEAN CERTAINLY ANY CATASTROPHIC EVENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT REALLY CHANGE KIND OF THE MARKET DYNAMICS. YOU KNOW, IF INTEREST RATES WERE TO INCREASE, YOU KNOW, EVEN HALF A PERCENT, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE CAUSE FOR, YOU KNOW, US TO PAUSE AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON THE MARKET. DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT, YOU KNOW, ISSUING MAYBE 30 DAYS FROM NOW OR 60 DAYS FROM NOW WOULD PUT US IN A MORE FAVORABLE POSITION, AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY RELY ON OUR INVESTMENT ADVISORS TO TO GUIDE US THROUGH, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT THE MARKET LOOKS LIKE AT THAT TIME. BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOOKED AT SPECIFIC TIME FRAMES MORE ON KIND OF A DAY OR WEEK KIND OF BASIS, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET. BUT CERTAINLY THERE COULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WAITING LONGER WOULD BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS. APPRECIATE YOU. YEAH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. RIGHT. WE NEED TO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. RIGHT. >> YES. >> PERFECT. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> COUNCILPERSON JESTER I MOVE APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT. >> FOR A SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM SIX C I'D [C. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton considering all matters incident and related to the issuance, sale and delivery of $11,235,000 in principal amount of “City of Denton, Texas Utility System Revenue Bonds, Series 2025” to the Texas Water Development Board; authorizing the issuance of the bonds; approving and authorizing instruments and procedures to said bonds; enacting other provisions relating to the subject; and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (6-0).] 251676. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON. CONSIDERING ALL MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE, SALE AND DELIVERY OF $11,235,000 IN PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS. TEXAS UTILITY SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2025. >> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MATT HAMILTON OF FINANCE HERE TO PRESENT THE UTILITY SYSTEM REVENUE BOND ORDINANCE FOR THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THIS IS THEIR SWIFT PROGRAM, WHICH IS A STATE PROGRAM FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PROVIDES LOW INTEREST RATE FINANCING FOR ELIGIBLE PROJECTS. BOND PROCEEDS FROM THE PROJECT WILL [03:05:07] BE USED FOR THE RAY ROBERTS WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION. THIS EXPANSION WILL INCREASE TREATMENT CAPACITY BY 20 MGD, AS WELL AS CREATE SPACE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 30 MGD IN FUTURE CAPACITY FOR TOTAL NEW TREATMENT CAPACITY OF 50 MGD, AND WITH THE CURRENT TREATMENT CAPACITY, A TOTAL OF 70 MGD, WITH THE TOTAL COMBINED CAPACITY. WHEN THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED. THIS WILL BE FINANCED WITH BONDS SOLD OVER FIVE YEARS. THIS YEAR IS THE SECOND YEAR OF THOSE FIVE YEARS. COUNCIL APPROVED A FINANCING AGREEMENT ON AUGUST 19TH WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR THIS ISSUANCE. THE FINANCING STRUCTURE OF THIS ISSUANCE IS A 30 YEAR TERM WITH A REDUCED INTEREST RATE THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AT A 3.8% BORROWING COST, WHICH WILL EQUATE TO ABOUT $2.3 MILLION IN SAVINGS VERSUS ISSUING COS IN THE PUBLIC MARKET OVER THE LIFE OF THE BONDS. SO NEXT STEPS. FOLLOWING APPROVAL OF THE BOND ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 3RD, WE ANTICIPATE CLOSING AND RECEIVING DELIVERY OF THE FUNDS. AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. >> SO WE'RE. >> USING SWIFT FOR THIS, RIGHT? >> YES. SWIFT. SWIFT IS THE PROGRAM THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. >> PERHAPS I'M MISTAKEN. I THOUGHT EARLIER IN THE SPRING SUMMER WE TALKED ABOUT USING WYETHIA. SO WHICH ONE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO USE WITH YOU FOR WHAT PROJECT? >> SO WYETHIA IS A PROGRAM THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, EPA AND IS FINANCING THAT WE ANTICIPATE USING FOR ANOTHER WATER PROJECT. AND I'LL LET STEPHEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. >> THANKS, STEPHEN. PERHAPS I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE I THOUGHT WITH YOU WAS FOR RAY ROBERTS, BUT PERHAPS IT'S CLEARLY IT'S NOT. SO JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE WIDTH IS GOING TO BE FOR THEN. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE. STEPHEN GAY, GENERAL MANAGER, WATER UTILITIES. YOU'RE CORRECT. WE'RE USING THE SWIFT FUNDING FOR LARGER CAPITAL PROGRAMS. PART OF THE RAY ROBERTS EXPANSION IS PART OF. IT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. WE'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE MONEY FROM THE SWIFT TO SATISFY OUR OBLIGATION. IT'S A IT'S A 49, 51% SPLIT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO THIS FUNDING ALLOWS US TO MEET PART OF THAT REQUIREMENT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. SO WE'RE USING TWO LOW INTEREST PROGRAMS. AND THE SWIFT PROGRAM IS ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE WIFIA PROGRAM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> WE'RE USING STATE FUNDS TO QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL. >> TO MEET OUR OBLIGATION FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDS. >> GOT IT. OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. >> OKAY. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> COUNCILPERSON JESTER I MOVE APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> MAYOR I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. [D. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton appointing a member to the Development Code Review Committee.] THANK YOU MATT. THAT TAKES US TO SIX D ID 251896. CONSIDER APPROVAL APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE DENTON APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHRISTIE FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF HERE TONIGHT SEEKING COUNCIL APPOINTMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE. THE DC RC REVIEWS AND MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS. THE COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THREE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. YOU MAY REMEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE. COUNCIL MEMBERS BECK AND JESTER WERE APPOINTED TO THIS COMMITTEE IN JULY WITH TERMS BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025 AND ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 2027, WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. RECENT RESIGNATION. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER'S RECENT RESIGNATION A VACANCY EXISTS FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING ON AUGUST 31ST, 2027. AN ISR WAS ISSUED TO COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL WAS ASKED TO SUBMIT NOMINATIONS. SO FAR, ONE NOMINATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED FOR COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD, AND SO COUNCIL NOW HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT A NOMINEE TO FILL THIS VACANCY. >> GOT IT. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. DO YOU ACCEPT [03:10:02] THAT NOMINATION? >> YES, I ACCEPT THE NOMINATION. >> OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD ACCEPTING NOMINATION. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS. >> OKAY. MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? >> MAYOR? I'LL SECOND. >> SECOND FROM REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. SO MOTION BY REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT TWO. SECOND BY DISTRICT FOUR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEE NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN ONCE IT'S SET. THAT PASSES SEVEN [E. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton appointing a Primary Representative and an Alternate Representative to the Board of Directors of the Denton County Transportation Authority; and providing for an effective date.] ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM E, AND THAT'S ID 251948. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON APPOINTING A PRIMARY REPRESENTATIVE AND AN ALTERNATE REPRESENTATIVE TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE DENTON COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRISTIE FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF. I'M HERE TONIGHT SEEKING COUNCIL APPOINTMENT OF A PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE MEMBER TO THE DCTA BOARD. THE TWO POSITIONS ARE TWO YEAR VOTING MEMBER TERMS AND THE. REPRESENTATIVES MUST HAVE PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD OF TRANSPORTATION, BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, ENGINEERING OR LAW AND RESIDE IN THE DCTA TERRITORY. CURRENT MEMBER. PRIMARY MEMBER. REPRESENTATIVE ALLISON MAGUIRE DOES NOT WISH TO SERVE AGAIN, AND CURRENT ALTERNATE MEMBER PATRICK SMITH WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE SERVING, AND THE NOMINATIONS RECEIVED BY STAFF ARE MAYOR PRO TEM SUSIE RIMMER AND PATRICK SMITH. >> GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND GIVE ME THE TERM. THE UNEXPIRED TERM IS WHAT? >> SO THE IT'S THERE. IT'S A NEW TERM STARTING 1113, NOVEMBER 13TH THROUGH 2020 7TH NOVEMBER 2027. >> GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS OF THE NOMINEE HERE AT THE DAIS. MAYOR PRO TEM, CAN I JUST SUSPEND THE RULES REQUEST? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? >> YEAH, IT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION. YEAH. >> YEAH, YEAH. SO IF WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I WANT TO SUSPEND THE RULES JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A CANDID CONVERSATION. I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY, SO I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK IN ADVANCE. SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? SO DONE. WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO, MAYOR PRO TEM, I JUST I'M STRUGGLING AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, I JUST. THE ALTERNATES BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND SO CAN YOU HELP ME. HOW MANY MEETINGS HAVE YOU ATTENDED THE DCTA MEETINGS. >> THAT'S NOT A QUALIFICATION BUT ZERO. YES. >> OKAY. YEAH. I TRUST ME. I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO JUST BE STRAIGHT. I KNOW THE RULES, RIGHT? I READ THEM, I'M JUST ASKING. I'M TRYING TO. I DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU. I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE. AND PRIVATE TOLD YOU I HAD CONCERNS. SO, AGAIN, I'M TRYING NOT TO BE ADVERSARIAL. I'M TRYING TO JUST UNDERSTAND. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SO WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO A. AND WE CAN WE CAN ADJUST THE TERMS, AREN'T WE. THIS BODY REMOVES SOMEBODY WITH ONE MEETING TO GO. SO THE TERM DON'T THEY'RE PLIABLE FOR SURE BASED ON RECENT HISTORY. I'M JUST ASKING. IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF MIDDLE GROUND THAT WE COULD SAY THAT WE THAT MR. SMITH SERVES. SIX MONTHS AS YOU GET UP TO SPEED, THEN YOU TAKE OVER. I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THE VOTE. THERE'S TWO OF YOU. I THINK YOU'RE BOTH REASONABLE. HE HE ENDORSED YOUR IN YOUR CAMPAIGN. SO HE THINKS YOU'RE REASONABLE. I JUST DON'T I WORRY ABOUT THE MESSAGE IT SENDS THAT SAYS. WE ARE HERE TO WORK WITH THE REST OF THE MEMBER CITIES. AND OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE NOT WILLING TO WORK WITH THE PERSON THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND BEEN IN ALL THE MEETINGS. RIGHT. I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST WORK WITH HIM TO GET YOU RAMPED UP FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. IS THERE ANY ARE YOU OPEN TO ANY PERIOD OF TIME FOR A RAMP UP THAT HE WOULD SERVE AND THEN HAVE A HANDOFF? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT. BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> WILL HE BE AT THE MEETINGS LIKE IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT, IF WE WERE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY POSITION OR ALTERNATE, WOULD WOULD HE NOT BE AT THE MEETINGS? >> YEAH, HE WOULD BE AT THE MEETINGS. HE HADN'T MISSED ANY MEETINGS OR VERY FEW. BUT YES. [03:15:04] SO HE WOULD BE THERE. CERTAINLY. >> SO I'M CURIOUS I GUESS. IF HE'LL BE THERE, I CAN STILL IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO BE CAUGHT UP ON, I CAN DO THAT. RIGHT. HE'S AT THE MEETINGS. >> WELL LET ME AND IT'S JUST MY, MY I COULD BE OVERLY SENSITIVE, BUT. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE OPTICS FROM THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT SAYS, HERE'S A LOYAL BOARD MEMBER THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR YEARS, REGULARLY ATTENDING, REGULARLY ACTIVE IN THE PROCESS, AND SOMEONE THAT HADN'T BEEN TO ANY OF THE MEETINGS. AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A SWITCH OR WE'RE GOING TO, BECAUSE I WOULD BELIEVE THE NATURAL PROGRESSION OF THINGS IS YOU'RE THE YOU'RE THE VICE. A CHAIR OPENS UP THE NATURAL PROGRESSION. AND IF YOU LOOK AT ANY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, NORMALLY YOU'RE THE VICE AND THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD. I WAS THE PRESIDENT AS A VICE PRESIDENT OF THIS ORGANIZATION. THEN I MOVED TO BE THE PRESIDENT. THAT'S THE NORMAL SEQUENCE OF THINGS, I THINK, TO CHANGE THAT IS CERTAINLY WITHIN THIS COUNCIL, THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL'S PURVIEW. BUT MY CONCERN IS THE OPTICS OF THAT. IT LOOKS ABNORMAL. AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND I THINK THAT HE CERTAINLY EARNED IT AND SHOULD HAVE I MEAN, WE YOU I'M SURE YOU'VE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE CHAIR THE FIRST PLACE. AND THAT WAS A WHOLE THING. I JUST THINK HE'S EARNED THAT OPPORTUNITY IN MY ESTIMATION. AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND. SO IT ALLOWS ME AND I THINK YOU'LL DO GREAT WORK THERE. HE'S DONE GREAT WORK THERE. IT ALLOWS ME TO NOT HAVE TO. IT'S MY WAY OF FINDING SOME MIDDLE GROUND THERE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY I PROPOSE IT. >> SURE. THAT'S NOT REALLY ON THAT PARTICULAR BOARD. THAT'S NOT A PATTERN THAT I'VE OBSERVED AS MUCH WHERE THE ALTERNATE BECOMES THE PRIMARY. SOMETIMES THAT'S THE CASE, BUT NOT ALWAYS. WHAT I CAN SAY TO THAT IS, IS WHAT I SEE ON THE DCTA BOARD RIGHT NOW IS EXCEPT FOR, I THINK, ONE POSITION, THEY ARE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO THE TWO MEMBER CITIES HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SERVING IN THE PRIMARY POSITION. THERE'S AT LEAST ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL AT THE COUNTY LEVEL SERVING IN THE PRIMARY POSITION. AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF BEEN THE TREND. AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITY TO FOLLOW THAT TREND. AND ABSOLUTELY, PAT IS AMAZING. PAT IS GREAT. I THINK HE WOULD DO GREAT AT THE POSITION. BUT GIVEN THE PATTERN OF THE DCTA BOARD, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR US WHEN WE HAVE A QUALIFIED MEMBER OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL AND I'M QUALIFIED AND I AM ELIGIBLE, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO FOLLOW THAT PATTERN. IF WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO IS QUALIFIED AND ELIGIBLE TO SERVE IN THAT SEAT. >> BUT WE HADN'T HAD ONE FOR FOUR YEARS, LIKE THE ENTIRE TIME SINCE THE CHANGE, WE HADN'T HAD AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON THAT BODY. AND THE MAYOR GILMORE, WHO YOU'RE REFERRING TO, DOESN'T VOTE. BUT OUR TREND HAS BEEN NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS. SO THAT THAT'S THE HISTORY HERE. AND MAYOR GILMORE DOESN'T VOTE IN LEWISVILLE UNLESS THERE'S A TIE. SO HE'S ON THERE, CERTAINLY. BUT HE'S NOT A VOTING MEMBER OF THAT BODY. AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ELECTED IS JUDGE EADES. AND I'LL HAVE TO LOOK TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. I HADN'T LOOKED AT IT. I'LL LOOK WHILE THE PEOPLE TALKING. I TAKE YOUR ANSWERS. YOUR ANSWER? I TAKE THAT YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. YOU'RE NEXT. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. SO JUST TO REVIEW, I AM ELIGIBLE AND QUALIFIED. ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS IS COULD YOU GO BACK PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD OF TRANSPORTATION, BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT? I'VE GOVERNMENT IS WHERE MOST OF MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN. BUT I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN IN TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSIT. IN SPECIFICALLY, I HAVE SERVED ON VARIOUS BOARDS. I DID SEND ALL OF YOU GUYS A LETTER WITH A LOT OF MY EXPERIENCE. I'M A TRANSIT USER. I'VE USED ALMOST ALL OF THE DCTA SERVICES EXCEPT FOR, I THINK, THE ACCESS VANS AND THE VANPOOL, BUT I HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN THE RAIL TRAIL ALL THE WAY. I'VE USED GO ZONE THE BUSSES, CONNECT BUSSES, UNT BUSSES, TRANSIT THE A TRAIN AND I THINK WE NEED A BOARD MEMBER THAT THAT USES THESE SERVICES. I'VE ALSO WRITTEN PUBLIC TRANSIT. ANYTIME I GO TO A NEW CITY, I'M RIDING A BUS OR A TRAIN, SO I'M KIND OF EXPOSING MYSELF TO OTHER WAYS TO DO IT. GETTING IDEAS, BECOMING FAMILIAR WITH THAT. I HAVE TRANSIT KNOWLEDGE. I. I UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES OF TRANSIT. IT'S UNIQUE FROM OTHER TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION. SO YEAH, I, I'M KIND OF MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN BIKE TYPE STUFF, BUT TRANSIT BIKES, WALKING THAT ALL GOES TOGETHER. IT ALL COMPLEMENTS EACH OTHER. AND [03:20:04] I'VE BEEN STUDYING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WHAT MAKES A GOOD TRANSIT SYSTEM. AND I THINK OUR CITIZENS, FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE GIVING TO DCTA, WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO CARES ABOUT BEST PRACTICE FOR BUILDING A GOOD TRANSIT SYSTEM, A USABLE TRANSIT SYSTEM WHERE WE'RE GETTING MORE RIDERSHIP. RIDERSHIP IS CRITICAL FOR TRANSIT SYSTEM. IN OUR CASE, IN TEXAS, WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC MONEY FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR TRANSIT, AT LEAST NOT FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE. IT'S MAYBE JUST FOR RURAL AREAS, MOSTLY. SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS. A LOT OF THEM ARE FORMULA DOLLARS. THEY'RE BASED ON RIDERSHIP. AND SO WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON. AND AGAIN, PAT IS GREAT. PAT WOULD WOULD ALSO DO A GOOD JOB. MY MY BIG SELL HERE IS IS BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT I WOULD BRING AS A USER, AS SOMEBODY THAT HAS HELPED OTHER RESEARCHERS AND TRANSIT PROFESSIONALS STUDY OUR SYSTEM, I'VE ASSISTED THEM WITH THAT AS WELL. I TALKED TO TRANSIT PROFESSIONALS SO THAT I MAKE SURE THAT I AM FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICE, AND NOT JUST WHAT I THINK SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. MY TRANSIT PHILOSOPHY I ALREADY TOUCHED ON IT BRIEFLY THAT THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE GETTING A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE BIG INVESTMENT WE'RE MAKING IN DCTA, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE, AS A CITY, GETTING SOME ECONOMIC. BENEFIT FROM THIS AS WELL. TRANSIT, WHEN YOU DO IT WELL, GIVES YOU AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT. SO THAT'S THAT WOULD BE MY FOCUS WITH DCTA IS IS WORKING WITH OTHERS, TRYING TO MAKE IT THE BEST SYSTEM WE CAN FOR THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO IT AND ENSURING THAT IT'S USABLE FOR FOLKS. SO TRYING TO BALANCE THE PRIMARY GOAL OF RIDERSHIP WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE THE THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE, THAT IT CAN GO ON FOR AS LONG AS WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT IT, BUT THAT ALSO IT'S HELPING THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST. SO THOSE ARE BALANCES. YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO PRIORITIZE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. BUT BUT FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES CONSIDERING ME FOR THE PRIMARY POSITION. AND I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH PAT TO SERVE OUR CITY IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. THANK YOU SIR. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM SAID A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I THINK THE FACT THAT MAYOR PRO TEM AND MR. SMITH HAVE AN ACTIVE RELATIONSHIP ALREADY WILL MEAN THAT THEY WOULD GO IN AS A, AS A REALLY SOLID TEAM. AND I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM MAKES A GREAT POINT THAT SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THESE ITEMS DIRECTLY BACK TO COUNCIL WITHOUT SOME OF THE SORT OF MIDDLEMAN FEATURES THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THESE WOULD JUST COME STRAIGHT BACK. SO I COMPLETELY SUPPORT HER NOMINATION ON THIS ONE. MR. MAYOR, ARE YOU TAKING MOVEMENTS AT THIS TIME? >> YES. >> GO AHEAD THEN. >> THEN I MOVE. MAYOR PRO TEM AND I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE EXPERTISE OF MR. SMITH AS THE ALTERNATE. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES, I HAVE, I HAVE THE I HAVE THE CARDS. YEAH. REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT SIX. >> AND I'M JUST ASKING. MR. SMITH IS IN THE AUDIENCE. COULD WE HEAR FROM HIM AS FAR AS WHAT IF HE WOULD ACCEPT A NOMINATION, IF HE WOULD ACCEPT A NOMINATION AS THE ALTERNATE AND SOMETHING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE AS WELL, SINCE HE'S HERE AND WE HEARD FROM. >> SURE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> YEAH. >> IF YOU ARE WILLING. THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M PATRICK SMITH, CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE ALTERNATE BOARD MEMBER FOR THE DENTON COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. IT'S BEEN A TUMULTUOUS LAST FOUR YEARS. AT TIMES, I HAVE ATTENDED ALMOST EVERY MEET MEETING OF THE DCTA. I THINK FIRST, MY EXPERIENCE. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH PUBLIC TRANSIT SINCE 1995. I HELPED REBUILD THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY TRANSIT AUTHORITY AFTER HURRICANE ANDREW IN SOUTH FLORIDA AROUND HOMESTEAD AIR FORCE BASE. THEN I WAS A MEMBER OF THE SOLANO TRANSIT AUTHORITY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA FOR TWO YEARS, FROM 2002 TO 2004, AND NOW MY TIME WITH DCTA, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE IN 2021, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE TIME ABOUT, WELL, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS ROUTE AND THIS ROUTE OR THIS ROUTE, BUT IT WAS NOT DATA DRIVEN. IT WAS SEAT OF OUR PANTS. AND WE WE IMPLEMENTED GO ZONE AGAINST A LOT OF RESISTANCE. BUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH GO ZONE? IT'S NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM. BUT WHAT GOES ON GAVE DCTA IS GREAT DATA AND WE'VE USED THAT DATA TO THE [03:25:08] BENEFIT OF THE CITY OF DENTON. AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH PAUL CHRISTINA AFTER HE STEPPED INTO A REALLY TUMULTUOUS SITUATION WHERE THE PREVIOUS LEADER OF DCTA WAS REMOVED. PAUL IS A GREAT GUY, GREAT, GREAT LEADER, BUT HAD NEVER LED A LARGE TERM ORGANIZATION AND DCTA DID NOT HAVE A CEO POLICY, AND SO THEY WEREN'T REALLY SUPPORTING THAT CEO AS AN ORGANIZATION. YOU ALL GIVE CITY MANAGER AN EVALUATION EVERY YEAR. I KNOW YOU DO, AND YOU SHOULD. THAT'S PART OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LEAD THE CITY. THE DCTA BOARD WASN'T DOING THAT, AND I HELPED WRITE THAT POLICY FOR DCTA. I'VE HELPED PAUL CHRISTINA REBUILD THAT ORGANIZATION. HE HAS LOST 46% OF HIS STAFF. THEY WERE A BROKEN ORGANIZATION AND WITH COACHING WITH HIM ONE ON ONE AT SEVEN MILE CAFE ON MAIN STREET IN LEWISVILLE, WE'VE HELPED. I'VE HELPED HIM REBUILD THAT FROM BEHIND THE SCENES. AND SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST TRANSPORTATION. IT'S ORGANIZATIONAL DYNAMICS AND BUILDING QUALITY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. I'M NOW TEACHING LEADERSHIP TO DCTA, AND I'LL DO THAT AS AN ALTERNATE OR AS A PRIMARY. I'M HERE TO SERVE. BUT MY COMMENT TO YOU IS, IS IT'S MORE THAN JUST ARTICULATING WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF BUS ROUTES. IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF DCTA, WE HAVE TO HELP THEM BECOME MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. I'VE DONE THAT WITH PAUL AND HIS TEAM, TEACHING THEM THE TOYOTA PRODUCTION SYSTEM. THEY WERE WITH ME ALL LAST WEEK AND THEY'RE COMING BACK FOR MORE TRAINING. IF YOU WANT TO START REALLY SEEING RETURN ON INVESTMENT, LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO ELIMINATE THE WASTE, WHICH WE OFTEN WE DON'T DO. WE JUST WANT MORE MONEY. AND THAT'S REALLY THE MOST LEAST PRODUCTIVE WAY TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE. THAT'S MY $0.02. THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS? >> IS THIS A QUESTION FOR. >> OH I'M SORRY. NO I'M DONE OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE A CARD FROM ELLEN SMITH. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE. THREE MINUTES. I HAVE TO THINK. >> HIGH COUNCIL MEMBERS NERVOUS. >> TO GO FIRST, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF APPOINTING COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR PRO TEM ROMER TO THE DCTA BOARD. A LOT OF CONVERSATION WAS JUST HAD ABOUT WHO WOULD BE A BETTER MANAGER, ABOUT EXPERIENCE AND ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE AS SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED IN DENTON FOR YEARS, SIMILARLY TO A SPEAKER EARLIER, I'VE ALSO LIVED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I'VE LIVED IN NEW YORK, I'VE LIVED IN OHIO, I'VE LIVED IN MISSISSIPPI, I'VE LIVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES, AND OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MESS, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. I ALSO WORK WITH STUDENTS ON CAMPUS WHO A LOT OF THEM RELY ON THEIR BUS ON THE BUS SYSTEM AS THEIR PRIMARY MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND A LOT OF THOUGHTS, AND NOW IS NOT THE PLACE TO VOICE THEM, BUT A GOOD PLACE TO VOICE THEM TO. IS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD. MAYOR PRO TEM IS SOMEONE WHO I'VE SEEN BEFORE, WHO I KNOW HOW TO GET IN CONTACT WITH, WHO I CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO. WITH ALL RESPECT TO MR. SMITH, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE MAN BEFORE, WHICH IS FAIR, BUT I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO BE SAID FOR HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE THAT THE CITY CHOSE, THAT THE CITY CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH, AND THAT THE CITY KNOWS ON THIS BOARD. ALSO, I THINK THAT WITH HER WORK AS MAYOR PRO TEM, THIS WILL JUST WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER AND GIVE HER, LIKE SHE SAID, A VERY SYNERGISTIC OVERLOOK ON OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. THE LAST THING I SAID IS ALSO ECHOING MAYOR HUDSPETH. BUT MR. SMITH ENDORSED HER CAMPAIGN, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE THE QUOTE IN FRONT OF ME, SORRY, I WAS NERVOUS AND DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS GOING FIRST, BUT HE ACTUALLY SAID, SUSIE IS SMART AND SHARP. SHE WORKS WELL WITH EVERYONE AND LISTENS WELL. THOSE ARE QUALITIES THAT I THINK MAKE A GREAT MANAGER. THEY SERVE TOGETHER ON THE BOND COMMITTEE AND SHE HAS ALWAYS IMPRESSED HIM. SHE'S A SERVANT LEADER AND READY TO SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. SHE HAS NEVER BEEN A CITY COUNCILOR BEFORE, BUT HE OR SHE IS DOING A GREAT JOB. AND I THINK SIMILARLY TO NOT HAVING BEEN ON THE BOARD BEFORE AND MAYBE NOT HAVING BEEN TO A MEETING BEFORE, SHE'LL DO A GREAT JOB THERE AS WELL. AND NOT ONLY THAT, SHE'LL BE SOMEONE THAT THE CITIZENS OF DENTON AND THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY USE THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN THIS TOWN AND THIS COUNTY CAN GET AHOLD OF. THANK YOU. >> I HAD A QUESTION. >> OH. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT. GET IT OVER. OKAY. I'M [03:30:06] SORRY. NO, NO. GO AHEAD. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I LOOK AT TRANSIT AT BOTH OF THE. WHEN YOU SAID YOU WORK WITH STUDENTS, WHERE DO YOU WORK WITH STUDENTS? >> YEAH. SO ACTUALLY, I WORK FOR A NONPROFIT THAT DOES VOTER REGISTRATION ON CAMPUS. SO I'M TALKING TO THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. OF COURSE. >> IS THIS. >> A QUESTION FOR FOR HER REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE? >> JUST AS A STATEMENT OF FACT, PAT SMITH IS ONE OF THE MOST ACCESSIBLE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I HAD HIS PHONE NUMBER BEFORE I EVEN RAN FOR OFFICE. HE'S ONE OF THE MOST VISIBLE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AFTER THIS MEETING, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TALK TO HIM. GET HIS CELL PHONE NUMBER. >> YES, SIR. I DID NOT APPRECIATE THAT, THOUGH. THANK YOU. >> LAUREN PENN, COME DOWN. GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> LAUREN. >> LAUREN. PENN. THANK YOU, MAYOR HUDSPETH. AND I JUST WANTED TO LEND MY SUPPORT FOR MAYOR PRO TEM RIEMER AS WELL. SUSIE IS MY REPRESENTATIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. SHE IS SOMEONE THAT I'VE CHATTED WITH IN THE PAST AND SHARED MY PERSPECTIVE AS AS A FORMER BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN DENTON AND NOW AS A MOM THAT IS FREQUENTLY USING THE BUS SYSTEM, TRYING TO USE THE BUS SYSTEM MORE OFTEN. SUSIE, SOMEONE THAT HAS HELPED ME UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUS SYSTEM WORKS AS FAR AS THE RIDERSHIP GOES, AND IS SOMEONE THAT HAS SAID MANY TIMES IN THE PAST IS IS DRIVEN BY DATA AS WELL. AND I THINK HER EXPERIENCE AS A LIBRARIAN AND OTHER WAYS THAT SHE HAS ADVOCATED FOR MOBILITY ISSUES IN THE PAST, KIND OF GIVES HER A TREMENDOUS BODY OF WORK AND RESEARCH THAT SHE HAS DONE IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. SHE UNDERSTANDS THE VARIETY OF NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. MY FAMILY IS ONE THAT CAN'T USE GO ZONE. I'VE GOT TODDLERS, I'VE GOT YOUNG CHILDREN. IT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ME TO HAVE A PROPER CAR SEATS. AND SO IF IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE LIBRARY OR THE POOL, WHICH RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO BUS STOPS AT EITHER OF THOSE LOCATIONS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE ADVOCATING FOR ACTUALLY TOMORROW AT THE DCTA BOARD MEETING. BUT FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE WHO WANT TO GET OUT AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY RIDE MORE OFTEN IF WE HAD MORE BUS STOPS, BECAUSE FAMILIES LIKE MINE ENJOY USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. IT'S LOVELY. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR KIDS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT'S LESS STRESSFUL FOR PARENTS AS WELL. SO I THINK SUSIE KIND OF UNDERSTANDS THOSE THINGS. SHE HAS TALKED WITH FAMILIES LIKE MINE, PLENTY OF MY NEIGHBORS AS WELL, AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE KIND OF SHE KNOWS THE NECESSARY CHANGES. SO OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF OUR BUS STOPS. THERE USED TO BE SOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NO LONGER HAVE THOSE. NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME. NOW THAT I'VE GOT KIDS THAT ARE EAGER TO USE THE BUSSES. WE DON'T HAVE A BUS STOP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE. WE CAN'T USE GO ZONE, SO WE ARE NOW EITHER WALKING A MILE AND A HALF OR DRIVING TO A LOCATION SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A BUS STOP, BUT I BELIEVE THAT SUSIE WILL UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE PERSPECTIVES. HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR UNIVERSITY STUDENTS TO ACCESS PLACES USING THE BUS SYSTEM THAT MIGHT BE OFF CAMPUS, WHETHER THAT BE OUR REC CENTERS, OUR PUBLIC POOLS, OUR PUBLIC LIBRARIES. AND SO I REALLY DO ADMIRE SUSIE'S PERSPECTIVE AND HER. TRULY SEEKER OF KNOWLEDGE SEEKER TO UNDERSTAND AND WORK WITH OTHER PEOPLE. AND I THINK THAT SHE WOULD DO A FABULOUS JOB REPRESENTING MYSELF, MY FAMILY, REALLY ALL OF DENTON, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE A GREATER NEED BECAUSE SHE HAS USED THE BUSSES, BUSSES AND NOW THAT I'M USING THEM, I HAVE REALLY HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT VIEW ON WHAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MEANS FOR DENTON. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND THERE'S ONE THERE'S ONE CARD IN SUPPORT THAT WOULD SPEAK. GO AHEAD. >> I'M SORRY. >> WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? >> NO, NOTHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. SO AND THEN REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. PARDON ME. FIVE. YES. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. HAPPILY SECONDING. I THINK MY HOPE IS THAT BOTH OF YOU TWO CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. AND A POWERFUL WAY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR EAGERNESS TO SERVE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR SERVICE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ALL THE WAYS THAT YOU DO. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. >> STATE YOUR POINT. >> OF ORDER. EXPLAIN HOW HOW THIS VOTE IS IS, IS, IS MAYOR PRO TEM THE NOMINEE? >> SHE IS. >> SO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. >> SHE'S THE NOMINEE. AND. PAT SMITH WOULD BE THE SECOND. AND [03:35:01] WE'RE VOTING ON THOSE ONE FATAL SWOOP. >> YEAH OKAY. NOT TO YOUR POINT, SIR. WERE ONE TO PREFER ONE CANDIDATE OVER ANOTHER. IS THAT AN OPTION HERE? >> IF THIS FAILS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A NEW MOTION. >> I SEE OKAY I SEE, THANK YOU. >> YEAH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AGAIN. PRIMARY MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND WOULD BE PAT SMITH. THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND DISCUSSION I'LL JUST SAY THIS I, I WELL FIRST I WANT TO CLEAR THE RECORD. THERE'S I LOOKED AT THE LOOKING AT THE BOARD MEMBERS. THERE'S TWO ELECTEDS I MENTIONED THOSE TWO. MAYOR GILMORE DOES NOT VOTE. JUDGE EADES, FORMER MAYOR DAN IS NOT A MAYOR ANYMORE, SO HE'S NOT AN ELECTED. CESAR MOLINA IS NOT AN ELECTED UNLESS THIS WEBSITE IS NOT UPDATED. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE BODY IS NOT ELECTED. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT. BUT BUT HERE'S MY CONCERN. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK BOTH ARE VERY CAPABLE. I JUST THE MECHANICS OF THIS BODY HAS BEEN CONTENTIOUS, AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT EVERYONE IS BUSY AND DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO TRACK ALONG. BUT IF YOU WERE TO TO GO LOOK AT THAT AFTER THE FACT, YOU WOULD SEE WHAT'S NEEDED IS. OR WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR. OR IN MY CONCERN IS YOU, YOU HAVE TO PROCESS YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO THIS, THIS BODY OF FIVE PEOPLE AND ADVOCATE. AND SO IT CAN'T BE JUST SOLELY YOUR YOUR EXPERIENCE. AND THAT'S THE RAMP UP TIME. THE RAMP UP TIME IS SO THAT YOU CAN BE AN EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATOR BASED ON UNDERSTANDING THE DYNAMICS IN THE ROOM. IF YOU ASK SOMEONE HERE, THEY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE DYNAMICS HERE. AGAIN, VERY CAPABLE. I JUST WANTED TO SEE A COMPROMISE SO THAT WE COULD GO BACK AND WE COULD ADVOCATE BEHIND THE SCENES AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL. BUT IF WE CAN'T COMPROMISE HERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE THERE, AND WE'RE OUTVOTED THERE. SO TO GET OUR INTEREST ACROSS, TO GET AN EXTRA BUS STOP HERE, WE'VE GOT TO BE COMPELLING AND WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME NEGOTIATIONS, SOME COMPROMISE, DEAL WITH PERSONALITIES, THAT SORT OF THING. AND I MEAN JUST THE DYNAMICS OF IT. WE HAVE A COUNTY JUDGE THERE, AND THAT HAS ITS OWN WEIGHT. AND MAYOR AND ANOTHER CITY THAT COMPETES WITH DENTON, THAT'S THAT'S ADVOCATING. AND SO THERE'S A DELICATE DANCE THERE THAT WE NEED TO DO. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE NEVER HAD A CHAIR. WE'VE NEVER HAD SOMEONE SIT IN THE CHAIRMANSHIP ON THIS BODY, EVER. AND I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE WE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES. AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD COMPROMISE HERE TO SHOW THAT WE COULD COMPROMISE THERE. AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT WE CANNOT. ME PERSONALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYONE ELSE. SO THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, EVERYONE'S FULLY CAPABLE. WE'LL BE FINE. WE JUST I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THE EFFICIENCY OUT OF IT, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T I DON'T THINK IT SENDS THE RIGHT BEHIND THE SCENES MESSAGE. AND WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. SO I JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. THANK YOU. IT'S FINE. BUT I THINK WE MISS AN OPPORTUNITY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES [F. Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton, Texas, recognizing June as Denton LGBTQ+ Pride Month, and providing an effective date.] 4 TO 3 TAKES US TO ITEM OUR LAST ITEM SIX F ID 251869. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, RECOGNIZING JUNE AS DENTON LGBT PRIDE MONTH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHRISTIE FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF HERE TO FOR COUNCIL. CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING JUNE AS PRIDE MONTH. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON JUNE 17TH, COUNCIL MEMBER BECK PRESENTED A TWO MINUTE PITCH TO CONSIDER A DRAFTED RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE MONTH OF JUNE AS DENTON PRIDE MONTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON. COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PITCH PROCESS ON JULY 18TH, AND ISR WAS PUBLISHED IN THE FRIDAY REPORT. AND THEN ON AUGUST 4TH, THE AGENDA COMMITTEE ROUTED THE PITCH TO A COUNCIL WORK SESSION FOR CONSIDERATION. ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AT THE SEPTEMBER 16TH WORK SESSION. COUNCIL'S DIRECTION INCLUDED SHORTENING ALL REFERENCES TO LGBTQIA TO PLUS TO LGBTQ PLUS REMOVING THE WHEREAS STATEMENT REFERRING TO THE 2025 CHARTER ELECTION AND THE REPLACEMENT OF GENDERED LANGUAGE WITH NON-GENDERED LANGUAGE IN THE CITY CHARTER, AND REMOVING THE WHEREAS STATEMENT REFERRING TO UNDESIRABLE PUBLIC BEHAVIOR IN TEXAS IN RELATION TO THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY. SO THIS EVENING, COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION AS SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL, WITH THE REVISIONS [03:40:03] DIRECTED BY COUNCIL ON THIS SEPTEMBER 16TH. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NONE, DID THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDE YOU THOSE NUMBERS? >> THEY DID SIR. THERE WERE THREE CRIMES REPORTED IN THE YEARS 20, 24 AND 25 THUS FAR RELATED TO GENDER, LGBTQ COMMUNITY BIAS. >> OKAY. AND THE OTHER JUST GENERAL REPORTS, YOU SAID THEY WERE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT NUMBER. >> I DID NOT GET THAT NUMBER. >> THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT WOULD I SENT THAT TO YOU. CAN YOU TEXT THEM AND SEE IF THEY HAVE THAT? AND IF THEY DON'T THAT'S FINE. BUT I SENT IT IN. SATURDAY. SUNDAY NIGHT. THE OVERALL NUMBERS OF CRIMES REPORTED. >> I DID NOT. >> YEAH, YEAH I UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T GET THEM, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I SENT THEM TIMELY AND DIDN'T SEND THEM LATE SO I'D BE UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. SO IF THEY DON'T IF THEY DON'T GET THEM IN THEN THAT'S FINE. BUT IT'S NOT. SO IF YOU CAN SEND THEM A TEXT MESSAGE WHILE WE'RE TALKING. THANK YOU. THEN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. PETER. I'LL LET YOU SAY IT. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THAT'S PETER GUERRA, 1809 BUZZARD ROAD, CITY OF DENTON. I STAND HERE AS A STRAIGHT MAN TO URGE THE CITY TO ONCE AGAIN RECOGNIZE PRIDE MONTH AS IT HAS IN YEARS PAST. NOT BECAUSE MY SAFETY DEPENDS ON ACTIONS LIKE THESE, AS IT DOES FOR MANY PEOPLE HERE, BUT BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. NOT ISSUING A PROCLAMATION ERASES THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF GENERATIONS OF LGBTQ AMERICANS WHO FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM AND EQUALITY. SINCE ITS FOUNDING, THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN A PROJECT OF EXPANDING LIBERTY, DRIVEN BY COMMUNITIES AND GROUPS STRIVING TO BRING THE NATION CLOSER TO ITS IDEALS. WHEN AMERICANS UNITE, WE HAVE OVERCOME CHALLENGES ONCE THOUGHT INSURMOUNTABLE TYRANNY, SLAVERY, SEX DISCRIMINATION, FASCISM, RACIAL SEGREGATION, AND, MORE RECENTLY, ANTI-LGBTQ DISCRIMINATION. WE MARK THESE VICTORIES WITH HOLIDAYS LIKE JUNETEENTH, INDEPENDENCE DAY, AND LABOR DAY, INVITING THE WHOLE COUNTRY TO CELEBRATE THESE TRIUMPHS OF LIBERTY AND REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES THAT MADE US FREER. BUT PROGRESS IS NEVER GUARANTEED. IT DEMANDS VIGILANCE. SO TODAY I STAND BECAUSE OUR NATION HAS TAKEN A TROUBLING STEP BACKWARDS. EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE GAVELED OUT WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE MOST ANTI-LGBTQ SESSION IN OUR STATE'S HISTORY, PASSING AND PROPOSING SCORES OF BILLS TO FURTHER DIVIDE OUR STATE AND HURT PEOPLE FOR BEING THEMSELVES. VARIATIONS OF THESE BILLS ARE SPREADING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, EVEN IN THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS. AT THE SAME TIME, VIOLENCE AGAINST LGBTQ PEOPLE IS RISING SHARPLY, FUELED BY HATEFUL LAWS AND RHETORIC THAT LEAD TO ATTACKS, HATE CRIMES AND HEARTBREAKING DEATHS. THIS WAVE OF VIOLENCE DEMANDS STRONGER PROTECTIONS AND A REAL COMMITMENT TO EQUALITY. UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE MANY NATIONAL BRANDS AND POLITICIANS, SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE SHOWN THAT PAST SUPPORT FOR THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY WAS MERE POLITICAL EXPERIENCE, NOT TRUE ALLYSHIP. I BELIEVE THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY IS NOT EXPENDABLE AND WILL NOT BE IGNORED. WE DESERVE BETTER DEBT AND DESERVES BETTER. AS A COMMUNITY. WE MUST STAND UNITED IN WORDS AND ACTION TO PROTECT THE DIGNITY OF EVERY PERSON, NO MATTER WHO THEY LOVE OR HOW THEY IDENTIFY. PRIDE MONTH IS MORE THAN A CELEBRATION. IT'S A CALL TO REMEMBER OUR SHARED STRUGGLE, RESIST DIVISION, AND BUILD A CITY WHERE EVERYONE CAN LIVE SAFELY AND AUTHENTICALLY. I URGE OUR LEADERS TO REJECT COMPLACENCY AND POLITICAL CONVENIENCE, AND SHOW REAL LEADERSHIP THAT STANDS WITH THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, NOT JUST WHEN IT'S EASY, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MATTERS MOST. LET DENTON HONOR ITS HISTORY OF INCLUSION BY BOLDLY PROCLAIMING PRIDE MONTH AND BACKING IT WITH POLICIES THAT PROTECT, UPLIFT, AND CELEBRATE EVERY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY. BECAUSE WHEN ANY OF US ARE TREATED AS EXPENDABLE, NONE OF US ARE TRULY FREE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, LAUREN UPSHAW, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> LAUREN UPSHAW I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE, 2200 WEST VIEW TRAIL. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CRITICISMS THAT WERE RAISED AT THE LAST WORK SESSION ON THIS MATTER. THE FIRST WAS THAT THIS DECLARATION IS NOT A CORE FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT. I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AN EQUIVOCATION FALLACY. GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER BEEN JUST ABOUT CORE FUNCTION INSOFAR AS [03:45:03] WE'RE SPEAKING OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. ELECTED OFFICIALS TAKE ON SYMBOLIC ROLES OF LEADERSHIP IN THEIR COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME. THE SECOND ONE IS THAT NO OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE DOING THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE RAISED, BUT I WAS NOT RAISED TO JUDGE THE CORRECTNESS OF MY ACTIONS BASED ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE OR ARE NOT DOING. I FIND THIS COMPLETELY DISINGENUOUS. THE THIRD, WHICH IS FRANKLY INANE, IS THE INSINUATION THAT BEING QUEER IS NOT AN IMMUTABLE QUALITY, NOT BASED IN DNA, AND THAT IT'S CHOICE. AND IT WAS SAID ACROSS FROM RACE AS A AS A DISTINCTION. BUT I'D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT I, AN LGBTQIA+, IS DEFINITIONALLY A GENETIC MATTER. FURTHER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY ARE NOT CHOICES BY ANY MEANS. THE LAST ONE IS THAT SUPPORTING THE RESOLUTION WILL BE DIVISIVE. THIS IS ALSO DISINGENUOUS. THE MAYOR'S CRITICISM THERE, HE SAYS HE HAD NO PROBLEM BEING DIVISIVE WHEN HE CHALLENGED WOKENESS, WHATEVER THAT MEANS. HE HAD NO PROBLEM MOCKING A SIGN IN THE MEN'S ROOM OF THE CITY POOL THAT INDICATED MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS WERE AVAILABLE AT THE FRONT DESK. HE SUPPORTED GERRYMANDERING, DILUTING THE VOTES OF DENTON CITIZENS. AND OF PARTICULAR NOTE TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS, HE SPONSORED AN ABORTION ACCESS FUNDRAISER LAST YEAR. CLEARLY, SHARING HOT TAKES IS NOT SOMETHING HE'S AVERSE TO. AND SO THIS IS ALSO VERY DISINGENUOUS. NOW, DO I CARE WHAT THIS GROUP OR ANY GROUP OF SEVEN PEOPLE SAYS ABOUT PRIDE MONTH? I REALLY DON'T, BUT IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY. MANY IN MY COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN OSTRACIZED BY THEIR FAMILIES AND FACED DISCRIMINATION IN CHURCHES AND HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT SIMPLY FOR BEING GENUINE. THEY ARE TRULY HEROES AND VERY BRAVE. IT'S GOTTEN TOUGHER IN THIS NEW AMERICA AND THIS NEW TEXAS. WE NOW HAVE A BATHROOM BILL THAT GOES INTO EFFECT IN DECEMBER. QUEER PEOPLE AND NON-CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN LABELED TERRORISTS BY OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND DESPITE ALL OF THIS, DENTON'S QUEER COMMUNITY, THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE EVENTS, ART AND MUSIC THAT MAKE THIS TOWN NOTEWORTHY HAS HELD HAS HELD ITS HEAD HIGH. THIS IS WHAT PRIDE IS, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE HATED FOR JUST BEING WHO YOU ARE. THE MAYOR MADE AN ISSUE OF THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO RESOLUTION BROUGHT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. MAYBE SO, BUT WHAT WAS OR WASN'T DONE IN THE PAST ISN'T THE ISSUE. THE RESOLUTION IS HERE NOW, AND IN THESE TIMES MORE THAN EVER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY THAT WE ARE VALUED BECAUSE AT THIS MOMENT, HISTORY WILL REMEMBER WHO TOOK A MORAL STAND. BUT MORE THAN THAT, WE WILL REMEMBER WHO KOWTOWED TO THE WHIMS OF THE MOB. SILENCE IN THE FACE OF OPPRESSION IS AT BEST COWARDICE AND AT WORST COMPLICITY. THANK YOU. >> THANKS. AND WE HAVE ONE CARD IN SUPPORT THAT DIDN'T WISH TO SPEAK. OKAY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL. AND I WANTED TO START ON THAT MOVE APPROVAL WITH RECOGNIZING THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THE WORK SESSION AND WITH THE COMMUNITY. THIS HAS BEEN A REAL COMMUNITY EFFORT FROM THE GET GO. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, HELPING BRING A RESOLUTION FORWARD, BEING OPEN, BEING FLEXIBLE, FINDING A PLACE THAT MATCHED COMMUNITY NEEDS FROM MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER TO THAT. THAT HELPED ME LEAD SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION LAST TIME. AND I JUST, I JUST THIS IS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT THAT IS QUINTESSENTIALLY AFFIRMING, SOMETHING THAT IS IN OUR PRIMARY CHARACTERISTICS AND DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE PUT FORWARD IN OUR CITY DOCUMENTATION, AND THAT IS INCLUSIVITY. AND AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO PURSUE THAT IN, IN MANY OTHER FORMS. BUT I HAPPILY, HAPPILY MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. >> YEAH, I, I ALSO VERY HAPPILY MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS. ULTIMATELY WE'RE SOME OF US UP HERE ARE GOING TO SAY A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE FOLLOWING ALONG THAT THE THINGS WE SAY HERE OFTENTIMES DON'T MATTER. AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM. THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS HOW WE VOTE. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, WHEN THE VOTE TALLY COMES ACROSS THE SCREEN TO TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND TWEET IT OUT. IF YOU AGREE AND TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND [03:50:03] TWEET IT OUT IF YOU DON'T AGREE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY LOOKS LIKE. THAT'S WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY LOOKS LIKE. ULTIMATELY, IN THE END, JUST REMEMBER IT'S HOW YOU VOTED, NOT WHAT YOU SAID. >> OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. IN PREPARATION FOR THIS, I DECIDED TO REMIND MYSELF OF HOW PRIDE MONTH CAME ABOUT AND I FOUND OUT THAT OCTOBER IS LGBT HISTORY MONTH. SO THIS HISTORY MONTH, JUST VERY BRIEFLY. PRIDE PARADE FIRST TOOK PLACE IN JUNE OF 1970, AFTER THE STONEWALL UPRISING IN NEW YORK CITY. THERE HAD BEEN YEARS LEADING UP TO THAT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY RAIDING GAY BARS, ONE OF THE FEW PLACES THAT LGBTQ PLUS INDIVIDUALS FELT SAFE AND LIKE THEY COULD BE THEMSELVES. AND EVENTUALLY, ON JUNE 1969, POLICE RAIDED THE STONEWALL INN BAR. THIS TIME, PATRONS FOUGHT BACK AND IT TRIGGERED A MULTI-DAY OF DEMONSTRATIONS AGAINST CENTURIES OF ABUSE, GOVERNMENT HOSTILITY, EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING DISCRIMINATION, AND SO MANY MORE THINGS. AND PRIDE MONTH STILL EXISTS TODAY BECAUSE THAT HOSTILITY, THAT HARASSMENT, THAT DISCRIMINATION AND GOVERNMENT TARGETING OF THIS POPULATION IS CONTINUING. AND SO PRIDE MONTH CONTINUES. THERE'S NOT A POINT IN ANYBODY'S LIFE WHERE THEY GET TO SIT DOWN AND CHOOSE WHO THEY'RE ATTRACTED TO. I KNOW I DIDN'T GET SAT DOWN AND ASKED THAT. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYBODY ELSE THAT GOT TO SIT DOWN AND MAKE THAT DECISION. I'VE KNOWN SOMEBODY WHO WENT THROUGH GREAT PERSONAL TURMOIL AND PAIN, TRYING TO CHOOSE DIFFERENTLY, BECAUSE SHE WAS TOLD THAT SHE WAS A BAD AND SINFUL PERSON FOR BEING ATTRACTED TO WOMEN, NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE TRIED. AND SHE TRIED FOR YEARS, NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE PRAYED, SHE COULDN'T CHOOSE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE IT WASN'T A CHOICE TO BEGIN WITH, NOT FOR HER. SO PRIDE MONTH IS ABOUT CELEBRATING, ACCEPTING, AND LOVING PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE. IT'S ABOUT REJECTING FEAR, DISCRIMINATION, ABUSE OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HOW WE THINK THEY SHOULD BE. OUR COMMUNITY IS STRONGER WHEN WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING WITH THIS VOTE, I WILL BE VOTING EMPHATICALLY YES FOR THIS PRIDE MONTH RESOLUTION. AND TO ANYBODY LISTENING WHO'S LGBTQ. PLUS, WHETHER YOU'RE OUT OF THE CLOSET, IN THE CLOSET, YOU MATTER. YOU'RE LOVED, AND YOU'RE PERFECT THE WAY YOU ARE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. >> JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON THE. THE NOTION OF. >> DENTON, TEXAS. AND WE PURPOSELY PUT INCLUSION AS ONE OF OUR CORE VALUES. IT'S A CORE VALUE. WE CAN SEE THE THE BEST OF US. AND I AM VERY PROUD TOBLY THAT EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 42 YEARS NOW, THERE'S NOT BEEN ONE DAY WHERE I FELT LIKE I WAS IN THE WRONG PLACE, AND WE SHOULD NOT PUT THAT ON PEOPLE. THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM IN THIS LIFE FOR EVERYBODY. A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST NEED TO GET OUT OF PEOPLE'S BUSINESS AND LET THEM LIVE THEIR LIVES, AND THEY WILL DO THAT ON THEIR OWN. I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY INVITING ME INTO A SPACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE, WHICH I'M NOT. AND IF I AM UNCOMFORTABLE, THEN THAT'S MY JOB TO FIND ANOTHER SPACE. BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO PUT ANYBODY AWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SPACE THAT THEY WANT TO BE IN. SO I'M SO PROUD OF US AS DENTON KNIGHTS, TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE ARE AN INCLUSIVE PLACE TO LIVE. AND I AM VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT. I'M JUST GLAD THAT I LIVE HERE. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, THEN I'LL SAY THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS. WILL THOSE BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA? RIGHT TO THAT, TO THAT OR ABOVE IT. RIGHT. SO I CAN REDIRECT PEOPLE THERE IT IS BY THE DICTIONARY'S DEFINITIONS. THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RELATIONSHIPS AND SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY. MY MY OPINION. AND IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR A FUTURE COUNCIL. THAT'S SWINGS THE OTHER WAY, THAT'S MORE AGGRESSIVE. THE SAME TYPE LEGISLATION THAT IS RUBBING PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY, SOME PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY. IT [03:55:02] OPENS THE DOOR BECAUSE NOW YOU YOU'VE SAID BEFORE IT WAS DON'T BOTHER ME OR SPEAK TO WHO I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH. I HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. EVERYONE GETS A UTILITY BILL. EVERYBODY CAN GO TO REC CENTER, ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT THIS GOES BEYOND THAT. EVERYBODY. AND IT IS DIVISIVE IN MY ESTIMATION. AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS I STAND BY EVERYTHING I SAID, AND I DID MY HOMEWORK JUST TO MAKE SURE I WAS I WAS NOT OFF AND SO ON. AND YOU CAN FACT CHECK THIS DECEMBER 8TH, 2020 DENTON RECORD CHRONICLE ARTICLE SAID IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, FIRST BLACK MAYOR ELECTED. THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T CALL ME AND ASK ME. THEY DIDN'T. HOW DID THEY KNOW THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S THAT IS. THAT SCENE. ANY OF THESE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ANY OF THOSE DEFINITIONS OUTSIDE OF THE SCENE WHERE WHERE YOU HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION OR TWO. AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY BELONGS IN THAT SPACE. I'M TRYING TO LET PEOPLE BE. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE. AND SO AND THEN I DO TAKE IT I DO FIND IT INTERESTING IN THE MATTER OF CONSISTENCY. IF YOU LOOK AT THREE THE WORK SESSIONS ON THREE 1924, THE TOPIC WAS REMOVING LANGUAGE THAT SAID YOU CANNOT BURY NEGROES IN THE CEMETERY. THE POSITION STATEMENT THEN WAS BY ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTED NO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THIS WHAT THIS DOES. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WORD IN A DEED ON CITY PROPERTY, REMOVING THAT THEY WERE AGAINST IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES. THIS IS GOING TO GET FILED AWAY. I'M SAYING THE SAME THING. THERE IS NO LANGUAGE, THERE IS NO DEED. THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING. AND SOMEHOW THAT'S DIFFERENT AND ABSOLUTELY HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR VOTES. AND I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BUT I, I'VE HELD THE SAME POSITIONS IN 2020 AND 2022 AND 2024 EVERY TIME I WAS ELECTED AT LARGE, MIND YOU, I DIDN'T GET ELECTED AT A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT, AND I DID GET ELECTED BASED ON THE SAME PRINCIPLES. AND SO I STAND BY THAT, AND I REPRESENT THOSE THAT DON'T THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO BE IN THOSE POSITIONS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS IN RELATIONSHIP. BUSINESS. THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CITY DOES. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE THINGS. AND SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTIVE. NOT AND I WISH THAT NARRATIVE WOULD STOP THAT. IT'S IF YOU DON'T SOMEHOW VOTE YES. SO EVERY TIME SOMEONE VOTES NO IT'S NOT AN INDICTMENT ON THE TOPIC. IT'S A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY. IT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH. AND SO I, I UNDERSTAND AND I ALSO SAY THIS AND I POINTED IT OUT LAST TIME, WE DON'T DO IT FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH. WE DON'T DO IT FOR HISPANIC MONTH HISPANIC HERITAGE. WE DON'T. AND THE THE MAKEUP OF THE CITY IS 54% WHITE. IT SAYS 11.5% BLACK, 20% HISPANIC, 10%, A LITTLE OVER 10% ASIAN. AND WE DON'T DO ANYTHING TO RECOGNIZE THOSE GROUPS. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO. AND THEN I WAS CURIOUS. SO I LOOKED AND I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS WHEN I JUST GOOGLED CITY OF DENTON AND AND IT SAYS. BUT THE CITY OF DENTON HAS A REPUTATION OF PROGRESSIVE AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY, PARTLY DUE TO ITS LARGE UNIVERSITY POPULATION, WHICH SUPPORTS MANY LGBTQ ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALSO HAVE SEVERAL LGBTQ FRIENDLY VENUES. BUT A RECENT ASSESSMENT SHOWED IT SCORED LOWER ON ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN MUNICIPAL INDEX. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT HOW DENTON IS. DIVERSE. AND I'VE I'VE BENEFITED FROM THAT DIVERSITY. I'VE BENEFITED FROM LIVING HERE AND I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT CITY. THEY'RE VERY FAIR. I DID ASK FOR THE RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND THOSE THOSE COMPONENTS. AND THERE'S IF YOU TAKE THE THREE THAT STAFF MENTIONED TODAY, ONE BEFORE, AS FAR AS THE THE NONDISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE, THERE'S BEEN FOUR IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I THINK FOUR COMPLAINTS, 170,000 PEOPLE, LOTS OF OTHER COMPLAINTS WITH POLICE. AND THERE'S BEEN FIVE NOW. ONE IS TOO MANY, AND I WISH THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO US. IT SAID THAT NO ONE SHOULD BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. I THINK THAT'S GOOD AND RIGHT TO DO. NO ONE SHOULD BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN THE CITY OF DENTON. EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE. EVERYBODY GETS A UTILITY BILL, EVERYBODY DRIVES ON THE ROAD. EVERYBODY CAN GO TO THE REC CENTER. AND I JUST DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE [04:00:03] AGENDA, TO THOSE QUESTIONS THAT I ASK. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT STAFF OUTLINES VERY WELL THAT WE THERE'S IT'S NOT IN THE CHARTER. IT'S NOT A THERE'S NOT AN ORDINANCE OUTSIDE OF NONDISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE. AND SO I THINK THIS IS A NEW STEP. AND THEN THE COMBINATION IN THAT IN THE TIME OF REPORTS. SO THIS IS JANUARY 24TH TO NOW, 20,720 REPORTS OF OFFENSE REPORTS TO THE POLICE, 20,720. AND 4 OR 5 WERE RELATED TO CONCERNS THAT WE WE HAD TO REFER PEOPLE BASED ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION. DENTON HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT, AND IT'S A VERY SAFE PLACE, A GREAT CITY. AND JUST BECAUSE I'M VOTING NO, NOT ANTI-ANYTHING, I AM STANDING ON THE PRINCIPLES THAT I BELIEVE ARE RIGHT, AND I AM FOR SMALLER GOVERNMENT, AND I AM FOR US STAYING OUT OF PEOPLE'S BEDROOM BECAUSE WE DON'T BELONG THERE. SO LOVE WHO YOU LOVE. I'M GOOD WITH IT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND VOTE ON THE SCREEN. >> ANYBODY ELSE EXCEPT FOR YOU? >> AND THAT PASSES. WAS THAT 5 TO 2? YEAH. THERE YOU GO. AND [7. CONCLUDING ITEMS] THAT TAKES US TO CONCLUDING ITEMS. ANY CONCLUDING ITEMS? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE JUST OVER 30 YEARS BEYOND THE ANNIVERSARY DATE FOR THE MILLION MAN MARCH. TO THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MILLION MAN MARCH IS OR WEREN'T ALIVE OR WEREN'T CONSCIOUS, YOU WERE. MAYBE YOU WERE VERY YOUNG. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GO BACK AND LOOK UP A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE MILLION MAN MARCH. IT WAS A REALLY BIG DEAL AT THE TIME, PARTICULARLY IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. SO JUST 30 YEARS BEYOND THAT, THAT HAPPENED ON OCTOBER 16TH. THANKS, MAYOR. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> MAYOR. THIS PAST FRIDAY NIGHT, THE PETERBILT PARADE WAS HELD DOWNTOWN. I ALWAYS MAKE THE PETERBILT PARADE. IT'S FANTASTIC. THERE WERE 52 BEAUTIFUL PETERBILT TRUCKS, ALL OF THEM MADE IN DENTON, TEXAS. I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. THERE WAS ONE TRUCK NAMED WILMA. WILMA HAD 3.85 MILLION MILES ON HER CLOCK. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD STUFF. ONE MORE THING. THERE WAS A FUNERAL HELD TODAY AT THE CORPUS CHRISTI COASTAL BEND STATE CEMETERY. THIS WAS FOR A YOUNG SAILOR, 23 YEARS OLD. HIS NAME WAS ROBERT STILLMAN GARCIA. HE WAS BORN APRIL 14TH. I BEG YOUR PARDON? HE WAS BORN JANUARY 3RD, 1918, AND HE DIED DECEMBER 7TH, 1941. HE WAS A SAILOR ON THE USS CALIFORNIA AND WAS KILLED WITH ONE OF HIS SHIPMATES WHEN THE JAPANESE INVADED PEARL HARBOR. HIS REMAINS WERE IDENTIFIED THIS PAST APRIL 14TH AND 23 YEARS OLD, AND HE'S FINALLY LAID TO REST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. I JUST. WE'RE GOING INTO WEEK FOUR OF OF HALLOWEEN AND WE I MEAN I'M I'M ANECDOTALLY AND I GREATLY LOOK FORWARD TO CITY MANAGER'S NUMBERS AND PARK DIRECTOR'S NUMBERS, BUT ANECDOTALLY THIS SEEMS BIGGER AND BETTER THAN THAN LAST YEAR. I'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT THAT EVERYONE IS EXCEEDING PROFITS. MISS CITY MANAGER, HOW MANY, HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WENT THROUGH THE MAZE? OUR BRAND NEW MAZE. >> 35,000 SO FAR. >> IT'S. IT'S JUST AMAZING HOW MUCH THE NORTH TEXAS. AMAZING. THANK YOU. PUN ACCIDENTALLY INTENDED THAT. HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM NORTH TEXAS ARE JOINING US HERE TO TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS FUN ACTIVITY. AND AS PART OF THAT, I WILL REMIND EVERYONE THAT CIRQUE DE HORROR STARTS THIS FRIDAY. IT IS A DENTON TRADITION FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO. SO PLEASE, I THINK I HOPE THERE'S STILL TICKETS I GOT MINE, SO IF YOU DIDN'T THEN YOU'RE OUT. BUT EVERYONE SHOULD GO AND TRY TO SEE CIRQUE DE HORROR. IT IS A SCREAM. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING? NONE? I WILL JUST SAY THAT ON. SO IF YOU KNOW PEGGY CAPPS, HER [04:05:07] HUSBAND, LEE J. HIS HIS FUNERAL IS OUR CELEBRATION OF LIFE IS SATURDAY. SO PLEASE KEEP THEIR FAMILY IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AS SHE'S AN AMAZING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. HE WAS AN AMAZING GUY. WILL BE MISSED AND APPRECIATE ALL THEY'VE DONE FOR THE CITY AND WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU'RE ABLE, YOU SUPPORT THEM. AND THANKS TO STAFF FOR ALL THE THE HOURS AND WORK. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR HELPING ME THIS AFTERNOON. BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE. AND SO WITH THAT, AT * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.