[00:00:09] EV AT THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE. I APOLOGIZE FOR MY MY VOICE AND MY SINUSES IS JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON OUT THERE. SO I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF THAT. SO WE'RE HERE. WEDNESDAY, APRIL 29TH, 2020 6:10 A.M. COUNCIL WORK SESSION ROOM. IS THERE A QUORUM PRESENT? IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A FULL HOUSE TODAY, SO WE BEGIN AT 10 A.M. WE'LL START WITH CITIZENS COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ANYWHERE FROM CITIZENS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, CITIZENS, YOU'VE HAD YOUR CHANCE AND YOU ALWAYS DO. SO WE'LL GO TO [A. MC26-010 Consider approval of the minutes of March 25, 2026.] NUMBER TWO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION MC26-010. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 25TH, 2026. CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? >> THEY ARE, AS I RECALL, I, I MOVE THEIR APPROVAL, PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT, A SECOND, SECOND. OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT. MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. [B. MC26-011 Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the City of Denton Transportation/Mobility Project Status Report. [Estimated Presentation Time: 30 minutes]] >> OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? SO WE'LL PUT THAT IN FOR FILING MC 26-011. RECEIVED A REPORT AND HOLD A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY OF DENTON TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY PROJECT STATUS REPORT. >> GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. JOHN POSTER INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS. I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO ONE OF OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEES, CALEB POLSTER. HE'S THE FUTURE OF ITSO WHAT FUTURE? THAT'S. I'M NOT GETTING YOUNGER. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. >> I DON'T EITHER. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT TO THE EDITORIAL PAGE. OKAY. SO AS WE TALKED IN THE PAST, WE'RE WE'RE CHASING A LOT OF PROJECTS, MOST OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT COMING AT IS ON 35, AND WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF SUCCESS THERE. THE 35 NORTH PROJECT, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, YOU SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT C, S, J S. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT KNOW, THIS IS LIKE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER FOR A PROJECT THAT IDENTIFIES IT IN THE SYSTEM. THEY'VE BEEN BROKEN OUT INTO FIVE PIECES BECAUSE OF COSTS TO GET BETTER ESTIMATES WHEN WE BID THEM. AND WE'RE PLOWING THROUGH THESE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THE YELLOW IS WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF DENTON. AND IT'S IT'S THE ONE THAT WE JUST BROKE UP. WE'RE HAVING TO REDO THE DESIGNS. AND SO THE THE DATES ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, THE RED IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 26 AND 27. SO THAT'S IN SIX YEARS. THAT'S TOMORROW. MOST OF THE CRITICAL PATH ITEM HERE IS THE UTILITIES. THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE. I JUST SAID ALL THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, THOSE ARE THE UTILITIES THAT ARE THE CRITICAL PATH. AND WHEN YOU SEE YELLOW THAT MEANS SOMETHING'S CHANGED. SO. WE'RE PROGRESSING THOSE CONSISTENT WITH THE DATES WHERE THE FUNDING IS. SO THE VIEW ROAD SECTION IS SET, BROKE OUT BECAUSE IT IS BEING BUILT WITH THE 455 PROJECT. AND SO IT STARTED BACK IN 2025. AND WE'RE IT'S AN INTERCHANGE. I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT SECTION IS TAKING SO LONG, BUT THEY'RE SAYING IT'LL BE DONE IN 2029. UNLESS YOU GO TO SANGER, YOU PROBABLY DON'T CARE. BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT JUST SAYS RIGHT THERE. MARCH OF 2020. OKAY, SO THE MERGE, YOU ALL HAVING FUN YET ON THAT? >> OH MY GOSH. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? THE WORST IS STILL IN FRONT OF US AS FAR AS. >> YOU SAY, THE WORK IS STILL IN FRONT. >> OF US, IS IN STILL IN FRONT OF US. >> OH, THE WORST IS STILL IN FRONT OF US. >> OKAY. YES. THAT'S WHY THEY MADE CAROL BOULEVARD. YEAH. SO. YEAH, STAY AWAY UNLESS YOU GOT QUESTIONS. I MEAN, YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE? THE TRAFFIC FLOWS AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE, GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S A HALF $1 BILLION PROJECT BEING BUILT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT BRAID TO EVERYBODY FOR THE LONGEST. NOW YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHERE THEY ENTER AND EXIT THE SAME PLACE. THE EXIT IS AT GRADE ISH, AND THEN THE ENTRANCE IS A GRADE SEPARATED. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. >> I WANTED TO WRITE IT DOWN, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE I JUST NEED TO ASK IT RIGHT NOW. I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS INNER AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE EXITING LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE THAT'S CLARIFY. >> THAT'S THAT BRAID. [00:05:04] >> THAT'S THE BRAID. >> YEAH. SO GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. SO. I KNOW THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE SCREAMING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING IT OUT LOUD AND JUST YOU'RE ENTERING AT THE SAME EXODUS WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DEALING WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, 50 YEARS OR WHATEVER FOR ENTRANCES BEING SO SHORT AND EXITS BEING SO SHORT AND YOU'RE HAVING TO ENTER AND EXIT AT THE SAME TIME. >> WE CALL THAT THE MERGE DISTANCE. OKAY, OKAY. >> MERGE DISTANCE. YEAH, BUT YOU'RE NOT MAKING IT SOUND ANY. I MEAN, WE DON'T THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT OF WHAT. >> SO WHAT WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S THERE TO BE TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE MOVEMENTS NOW. OKAY, SO THE EXIT WILL BE ON THE GROUND ON ITS OWN ROAD. AND THE ENTRANCE WILL BE AT THE SAME LOCATION ON A BRIDGE GOING OVER. OKAY. SO THEY WON'T THEY DON'T MERGE ANYMORE. THEY'RE COMPLETELY SEPARATE. >> OKAY. >> THEY'LL EXIST IN THE SAME PARADIGM, BUT THEY WON'T EXIST IN THE SAME UNIVERSE. OKAY. >> DON'T YOU CALL THAT BRAIDED. >> BRAIDED RANCH? >> THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. THAT'S BRAIDED. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A BRAIDED. >> IF YOU BURIED DOWN IN FORT WORTH, LIKE NORTH FORT WORTH OR WESTERN CENTER BOULEVARD, ALL THAT STUFF DOWN THERE, ALL THOSE RAMPS ARE BRAIDED. >> THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. >> RIGHT? >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON KINDERGARTEN LEVEL. >> YOU SHOULD KNOW ALL ABOUT BRAIDING. >> I SHOULD SHOULD KNOW. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BEING PATIENT WITH GETTING THAT QUESTION. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS. >> SO LIKE THE MERGE, THE MAYHILL JOB, THE WORST IS YET TO COME BECAUSE THAT LITTLE BITTY STRUCTURE, THAT'S THE BRIDGE INTERCHANGE THAT'S GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN THE ONE AT 288. SO THEY HAVEN'T BROKEN EVERYTHING YET. SO ALL THEY'RE REALLY DOING RIGHT NOW IS FOCUSING ON THE FRONTAGE ROADS, BECAUSE THE FRONTAGE ROADS ARE OUTSIDE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT. THAT'S HOW BIG THE FOOTPRINT IS GOING TO BE THERE. AND THEN THEY'RE WORKING ON ALL THAT STRUCTURE ALL THE WAY TO TO. 288 REMEMBER, PART OF THIS JOB TAKES A BYPASS OVER BRINKER. SO AS YOU'RE ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP AT THE SIGNAL IF YOU DON'T WANT. SO THAT BRIDGE OVER BRINKER WILL BE, WE CALL IT SCABBING ON, BUT IT'S WHERE THEY ADD ANOTHER STRUCTURE AND ATTACH IT TO THE BRIDGE, AND THAT WILL BE THE. ONE OF THE FRONTAGE ROADS WILL GO OVER WITHOUT STOPPING. SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE. THE BIG BREAK YET. >> OH. OH, OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> JOHN, FOR THAT. >> SECTION IN THE TEMPORARY SECTION DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, WE'RE GOING TO PUT EVERYBODY ON TO THE FEEDERS AND THEN REBUILD THE BRIDGE. >> NO, THE THE THE STATE DOES NOT EVER CLOSE DOWN THE TRAFFIC, JUST LIKE IF YOU'VE BEEN DRIVING THROUGH ON MAIN STREET, LEWISVILLE, THEY'RE RECONSTRUCTING ALL THAT. THEY'RE STILL KEEPING ALL THE TRAFFIC FLOWING. SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL BASICALLY, IT'LL BE SCARY, BUT THEY'LL BECAUSE THAT STRUCTURE THEY'RE BUILDING IS SO MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW, THEY'LL BE BUILDING A WHOLE SECTION OF BRIDGE WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THE EXISTING. AND THEN ONCE THEY'LL GET TO A CERTAIN POINT, THEY'LL PUT THE TRAFFIC ON THERE AND THEN TEAR THE BRIDGE DOWN AND BUILD THE OTHER HALF. >> OKAY. >> SO THE TRAFFIC WILL ALWAYS BE SIX LANES. UNTIL IT'S NOT, AND IT'LL ONLY BE TEMPORARY REDUCED PROBABLY TO FOUR LANES OCCASIONALLY, LIKE YOU DO AT MAIN STREET, WHAT THEY DO ON MAIN STREET. >> NO, I APPRECIATE THE CLARITY. I WAS I'M TRYING TO AVOID THE THE WACO TEMPLE BYPASS, WHERE THEY DID THAT VERY POORLY. >> THE DALLAS DISTRICT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STATEWIDE, BUT THE DALLAS DISTRICT POLICY IS WHEN THEY BUILD A STATE ROAD, THEY DON'T DO A DETOUR. THEY KEEP ALL THE TRAFFIC ON THE CORRIDOR AND THEY KEEP IT MOVING THROUGH THE CORRIDOR. >> OKAY. >> SO EVERYTHING I JUST SAID IS RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE FRONTAGE ROADS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO GET THE TRAFFIC OFF OF THE EXISTING FRONTAGE ROAD, BECAUSE WHERE THE EXISTING FRONTAGE ROADS IS, WHERE THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE AND THE MAIN LANES WILL BE. OKAY. I'VE GOT SOME NEWS ON THIS PROJECT, YOU'LL NOTICE. NOW, LET ME MAKE SURE YOU'LL NOTICE NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A A BIFURCATED PROJECT, THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. THIS IS ALL ONE BIG JOB AND WE SHOULD BE HEARING IT'S A. WE SHOULD BE HEARING IN MAY, LATE MAY. BUT WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED IS EVERYTHING FROM JUST NORTH OF DALE EARNHARDT. SO THERE'S A CREEK JUST NORTH OF DALE EARNHARDT. SO WE'RE GOING FROM THE CREEK TO 1171. THAT'S RIGHT HERE. THAT'S 1171. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE INTERCHANGE. 1171 IT'S ULTIMATE. AND RIGHT NOW, 1171 IS A TWO LANE BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER 35 W. WE'RE FLIPPING THE STACK, 35 WILL GO OVER AND THE BRIDGE UNDER WILL BE 610 [00:10:01] LANES OF TRAFFIC, SIX LANES THROUGH TWO DUAL DUAL S IN EACH DIRECTION AND TEXAS U-TURNS. >> IN LANES. >> YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE THREE IN EACH DIRECTION, TWO TURNS IN EACH DIRECTION, AND THEN TWO TEXAS USE. WOW. EVERYTHING'S BIGGER IN TEXAS. >> EVERYTHING. >> A LOT. >> OF THINGS. WE ARE SKIPPING THE CLEVELAND GIBBS INTERCHANGE, BUT BUILDING THE FRONTAGE ROADS BETWEEN MAIN STREET, I MEAN 1171 AND DENTON CREEK, BUILDING THE INTERCHANGE AT DENTON CREEK, AND THEN TYING INTO THE EXISTING PROJECT THAT'S FUNDED JUST SOUTH OF 407, WHICH BUILDS 407 AGAIN, TEN LANES UNDERNEATH THE FREEWAY. 35 GOES OVER. 407 UNDER THE OLD DENTON OR OLD JUSTIN DENTON, OLD DENTON ROAD INTERCHANGE. ALL THE FRONTAGE ROADS, THE ROBSON RANCH INTERCHANGE, ALL THE FRONTAGE ROADS, AND THEN THE FUNDING FOR THAT STOPS JUST SOUTH OF ALLRED. AND THEN THE RED PICKS BACK UP, WHICH IS THE MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'LL SEE IN THE NEW UTP PICKS UP JUST NORTH OF. ROBSON RANCH. BUILDS THE INTERCHANGE AT ALL RED FOR LANDMARK AND THEN TAPERS. FRONTAGE ROAD BACK TO THE RAMPS WHERE YOU EXIT TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND ENTER FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD. 22449 THAT'S ABOUT A $325 MILLION JOB. DENTON COUNTY MOVE SOME PROJECTS FUNDING AROUND TO GET THE MAJORITY OF FUNDING ALLOCATED. AND THEN THE COMMISSION IS IS WHEN WE'LL SEE THE THE UTP. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THEY'LL COVER THE DELTA. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO KNOW WHAT YEARS WE ARE SHOOTING FOR ALL OF THESE. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE READY TO LET. IT'S DECEMBER 27TH. DENTON COUNTY HAS AGREED TO FUND. GIVE TEXDOT THE MONEY TO MOVE THE UTILITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A UTILITY SHORTAGE ON THEIR BUDGET. SO THE COUNTY IS ENTER INTO A IS GOING TO BE ENTERING INTO TWO ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS WITH TXDOT TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $20 MILLION TO PAY THE STATE TO MAKE ALL THESE UTILITIES GO AWAY IN TIME. AND WE'RE TRYING TO BEAT THAT. DECEMBER 2027 LET DATE. WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THIS SECTION. WE THINK THE BLUE WILL GET IN TO THE EARLY PART OF 27, AND YOU GET EARLIER THAN SEPTEMBER. YOU'RE IN THE 27 FISCAL YEAR, AND AFTER SEPTEMBER, YOU'RE IN THE 28 FISCAL YEAR. SO IT MAKES IT EASIER ON THE COMMISSION TO SPLIT THE FUNDING OVER TWO YEAR CYCLES, BUT IT'LL BE IN ONE YEAR CALENDAR. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING LET SOMETIME IN DECEMBER FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS. THEY WON'T. THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN WHATEVER ORDER THE UTILITIES GET DONE FIRST. SO THEY MAY START FROM THE MIDDLE AND WORK THEIR WAY OUT. IT'S WHEREVER THE UTILITIES ARE CLEARED. FIRST IS WHERE THEY'LL START. YES. >> IF IT'S GOT A IF IT'S GOING, IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE POPULATION. I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WHERE IT STARTS NEEDS TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION OF THE POPULATION BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO NEED MORE NOW RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU STATED. >> YEAH. SO ARE YOU SAYING THE COMMISSION. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. NO THAT'S NOT. >> THEY DON'T EVEN THEY DON'T THINK. >> THAT THEY DO. BUT WHEN WE ASKED WHEN WE MET WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF COMMISSIONER VAUGHN WITH THE HIGHWAY COMMISSION, YEAH, WE SAID, HEY, WE NEED ANOTHER 80 MILLION BUCKS TO MAKE THIS WORK FOR Y'ALL. AND HE GOES, WELL, I JUST LOOKED IN THE RECORD AND WE GOT ABOUT $2 BILLION WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN YOUR COUNTY RIGHT NOW. SO, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT BEING HURT. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE HURT. WE'RE JUST SAYING WE NEED MORE. >> YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. >> SO THEY GET A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING MONEY. >> YEAH. >> SO BUT WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO MAKE IT EASIER TO GIVE IT TO THEM BECAUSE BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE HIT LANDMARK WAS A HARD DRIVE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. YEAH. THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO PAY FOR THE UTILITIES. IT'S A GOOD LEVERAGE AND IT'S ALL FRONTAGE ROADS AND IN THE PERMANENT CONDITION AND ALL THE INTERCHANGES THAT WE'RE BUILDING IN THE PERMANENT CONDITION. SO ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN BE ON THE 35 CORRIDOR CAN BE AT THE RIGHT PLACE, BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING THE OUTSIDE PARAMETER. >> OKAY. YEAH. >> OH I'M SORRY. YES. >> MY APOLOGIES. >> IF IF YOU COVERED THIS, I, I WAS UNCONSCIOUS OR SOMETHING. CRAWFORD ROAD, ROBSON RANCH ROAD, YES. >> IT'S BEEN BUILT. >> AND IT WILL IT WILL GO OVER THE INTERSTATE. >> NO. CRAWFORD'S AT GRADE AND [00:15:04] 35 GOES OVER. >> 35 TO GO OVER AND AND WILL WILL WIDEN TO WHAT. >> SO CRAWFORD ONLY HAS SO MUCH TO THE EAST. AND THEN ROBSON RANCH. WE'RE BUILDING A FIVE LANE. WELL ACTUALLY Y'ALL ARE WE'RE JUST PAYING YOU TO DO IT. THE COUNTY IS PAYING YOU TO DO IT, HOPEFULLY. RIGHT. I THINK THEY APPROVED THAT YESTERDAY IN COURT. I DIDN'T CHECK DID THEY. >> OH, THAT JUST HAPPENED JUST YESTERDAY. OKAY. >> WELL Y'ALL ARE WRITING CHECKS YOU COULDN'T CASH UNTIL THAT CAT HAPPENED. SORRY, CHARLIE. >> NO PROBLEM. YEAH. SO CITY COUNCIL PASSED LAST MONTH, I THINK, AND INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH DENTON COUNTY FOR US TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE WIDENING OF ROADS AND RANCH ROAD UP TO 35. >> Y'ALL ARE JUST WE'RE YOU'RE NOT IN. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST USING YOU ALL AS OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. ESSENTIALLY, Y'ALL ARE BUILDING THE ROAD FOR US. SO THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO IT REALLY QUICK THAT WAY. >> OKAY, SO AM I HEARING CRAWFORD WILL NOT CHANGE THE EAST EAST OF THE INTERSTATE? >> I DON'T I THINK THAT DIANE, COMMISSIONER EDMONDSON WORKED WITH. IS THAT OUR GOAL ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TO FIX THAT ROAD OR I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET ANY BIGGER THAN THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THE INTERCHANGE WILL STILL ACCOMMODATE SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC. IT JUST MAY NOT HAVE THE DUAL LEFTS AND ALL THAT. >> OKAY. >> BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING FIVE PLUS TURN LANES FROM THE WEST. >> WHAT WILL THE WHAT WILL THE TUNNEL, THEY CALL IT THE WHOLE WHAT WILL THE TUNNEL LOOK LIKE UNDER THE INTERSTATE? >> IT BASED ON MEMORY, WHICH IS ALWAYS GREAT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TWO LANES WITH A POTENTIAL FOR THREE GOING UNDER, AND THEN EIGHT AND ONE LEFT TURN LANE IN EACH DIRECTION AND THEN TEXAS U-TURNS. SO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, EIGHT LANES FOUR, THREE, TWO. YOU'LL HAVE TWO THROUGH. >> YEAH. >> YOU'LL HAVE ONE LEFT AND ONE LEFT, AND YOU'LL HAVE TEXAS USE. AND RIGHT NOW ROBES AND RANCH IS FIVE LANES. AND WHAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IS STILL GOING TO BE FIVE LANES. IT'S JUST GOING TO ALSO HAVE TURNING LANES ON THE OUTSIDE SO THAT THE TURNING MOVEMENTS DON'T IMPACT THE TWO THROUGH. >> ROBSON RANCH IS CURRENTLY FIVE. >> IT IS NOW BECAUSE WE RESTRIPED IT. WE GOT MURDERED AT ROBSON RANCH ONE NIGHT, SO WE JUST WENT OUT IN THE CITY, WAS VERY QUICK TO HELP US GET IT. RESTRIPED BUT IT'S FIVE RIGHT NOW AND IF I'M WRONG, SEE I'M. SANDRA SAYS I'M NOT WRONG. >> OKAY, OKAY. >> WE'RE AN IDIOT. >> AND WHAT'S THE. >> HE DIDN'T SAY THAT LAST PART, JOHN. >> NOBODY CALLS YOU THAT. >> WHAT'S THE GUESSTIMATE? ON ON ON THAT CONSTRUCTION UNDER THE INTERSTATE. >> SO YEAH. >> THE TUNNEL. >> YEAH, I KNOW. >> WHAT I'M CALLING. >> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I ADMIT IT, I WENT THROUGH THAT. YOU WEREN'T LISTENING. THAT'S THAT 27 TIME FRAME. SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK OUR WAY OUT. WE THINK THE ROBSON RANCH IN 407 ARE FIRST BECAUSE THEY WERE THEY WERE MOVING UTILITIES FIRST. SO WE THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST, BUT IT'LL BE SOMETIME MID 27. WE'RE HOPING BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING FOR THE COUNTY, PAYING FOR THE UTILITIES TO EXPEDITE THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS. AND WE BELIEVE THAT ROBSON RANCH AND 407 WILL BE THE FIRST ONES OUT OF THE BOX. AND WE'RE HOPING IT'S BEFORE SEPTEMBER OF 27, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE IN THE 27 UTP, NOT THE 28. >> BUT THAT'S TO LET. >> YEAH, OKAY. I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER IT WHEN I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN. >> OKAY. OKAY. >> THANK YOU. YOU SEE THE DATES ON HOW LONG THESE TAKE TO BUILD, RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BREAK THEM OUT BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE PLANNING ON DOING THE BLUE IS ONE JOB, BUT NOW THEY MAY NOT, RIGHT? THEY MAY DO. THEY MAY BREAK IT UP. THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR MIND ON THAT WEEKLY. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE WE'RE PROGRESSING THE DESIGN PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE DON'T GET SOME CHANGE IN THE FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE STATE, IS THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO STEP UP AND TRY TO BUY OR GIVE THE STATE THE MONEY TO BUY SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY PROCURED. AND WITHOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUIRED, WE CAN'T MOVE THE UTILITIES. SO. WE'RE IN A LIMBO ON 288 RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOT DOING THE 2449 INTERCHANGE ON THE PREVIOUS JOB, BECAUSE IT'S WHERE THE DIRECT CONNECTS COME IN FOR 288. SO WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD THROW AWAY. SO ANYTHING WE DO IT. 2449 ON THIS PROJECT UP HERE. WOULD BE THROW AWAY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AS EXISTING UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT [00:20:01] THIS PROJECT. >> I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT PROJECT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE NICE. >> OKAY. >> SO I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE. I GUESS I'LL INTERJECT HERE WHAT'S ON MY MIND. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE I WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE ARE INITIALLY NOTIFIED OF THESE THINGS, I'VE BEEN IN THIS ON THIS COMMITTEE. IT'S MY FIFTH YEAR. AND WHEN WE ARE GIVING THESE NEW THINGS, WE ARE FEELING OUR GROWTH RIGHT NOW. WE'RE KNOWING THAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING VERY QUICKLY OUT THERE. AND SO WE GET THESE PROJECTS. AND I, YOU KNOW, I REALLY GO OUT THERE AND I'M JUST LIKE, MAN, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOME REALLY WONDERFUL THINGS HAPPENING. THIS JUST JUST REALLY GOES FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES FOR THE COMMUNITY. REALLY WHAT I'M SAYING DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU ALL ARE GOT COMING TO US, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT THINGS JUST CHANGE. AND SO AS WE ARE KIND OF WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THESE THINGS, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, JUST EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S JUST TAKES TIME, RIGHT? EVERYBODY IS VERY UPSET ABOUT ALL THE STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING TO US. AND EVERY NEW AND GROWING CITY IS CONFRONTING THESE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO WHENEVER I'M TALKING TO MY CONSTITUENTS, I GENERALLY JUST SAY, WELL, IT'S OUR TURN. AND SO FOR US TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOR A LITTLE WHILE. AND THEN BUT THIS PROJECT RIGHT HERE FOR ME IS ONE THAT I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR, THAT IT'S SLOWING DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE GOING TO BE MISSING A LOT OF TRAFFIC INCIDENCES, WE'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE TO DIE BEHIND THIS EXCHANGE THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. AND THIS ONE WOULD HAVE REALLY I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO US NOT HAVING YOU 18 WHEELERS RUNNING OVER CARS AND PEOPLE AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND TO SIT HERE AND WATCH NOW THAT THERE'S SOME HOLD BECAUSE OF THESE BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THE LAST TEN, 15, 20, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY YEARS. >> I'LL TELL YOU HOW MANY. >> HOW MANY YEARS. >> WHEN I STARTED THIS PROJECT, I WAS SINGLE, SKINNY AND HANDSOME, AND NOW I'VE GOT THREE KIDS ALL OVER 24. YEAH. AND I'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 33 YEARS. >> YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO. >> A STORY THERE BECAUSE OF THE STUFF. BUT YEAH, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE WE'RE HERE. >> YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE HERE RIGHT NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, AND IT DOES MATTER. IT DOES MATTER THAT IT SAID OUT LOUD TO ME BECAUSE THIS WAS THIS WAS THIS IS A, A LIFE SAVER, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY IT MATTERS TO ME. SO. >> SO JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR THE PUBLIC, TWO YEARS AGO, THE DALLAS DISTRICT DID NOT HAVE A BUDGET FOR RIGHT AWAY. THEY COULD SPEND WHATEVER THEY COULD SPEND. YEAH. BECAUSE THE REST OF THE STATE WAS PATHETICALLY PATHETIC AT IT. AND SO THEY WOULD SPEND ABOUT $1.4 BILLION IN RIGHT OF WAY STATEWIDE. AND THE DALLAS DISTRICT WAS 700 MILLION OF THAT. THERE ARE ACTUAL BUDGET WAS 400. BUT THEY WE WE WOULD BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT PARTNERS LIKE THE CITY IN THE COUNTY, WE GET STUFF DONE QUICKER. SO THEY WERE ALWAYS AHEAD OF THE CURVE. SO WE WERE BUYING A RIGHT OF WAY ON 288 AND 1171 AND ALL THOSE OTHER JOBS UP UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO? THEY WERE HELD TO THEIR BUDGET HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR. TEXAS SAID, YOU CAN'T GO OVER THE 400 BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE. AND THEY SAID, WE'RE ALREADY AT 450. THEY SAID, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT YOU'RE NEXT YEAR, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET 350 TO 0 IT OUT TO THAT. 350 THEN HAD A 10% HOLD ON IT TO BRING IT DOWN TO ABOUT 320. AND THEN THAT 320 DOESN'T EVEN COVER WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS OF LETTING THAT THEY HAVE TO BUY THE RIGHT OF WAY ON. SO ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE FAITH BASED ENGINEERING, THEY HAD TO STOP ON BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET ENOUGH MONEY. AND, AND WE THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE THE PENDULUM CHANGES EVERY 4 OR 5 YEARS. THE MONEY COMES IN, THE MONEY COMES OUT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE CONTEMPLATING THE COUNTY IS CONTEMPLATING ON THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE DEEM CRITICAL TO GO AHEAD AND INSTEAD OF FUNDING SOME OTHER THIRD PART OF IT, LIKE WE'RE DOING ON 35, BECAUSE UTILITY MONEY COMES OUT OF RIGHT AWAY THAT ACCOUNT TO START FUNDING THOSE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE CRITICAL PATH ITEM NOW. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO THE HEART ON THAT. I APOLOGIZE. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS JOB, THE NORTHERN LOOP, AND WE'RE WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE THE SCHEMATIC [00:25:07] APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER. AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET THE SCHEMATIC APPROVED SO THAT WE CAN GET THE PROJECT CLEARED THE FOLLOWING. MONTH SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT THE CORRIDOR BETTER AND GO AHEAD. >> NO. YOU FINISHING THE LAST QUESTION. >> OKAY. >> WE HAD SOME ISSUES THAT WITH THE DEVELOPER, BUT THE COUNTY IS WORKING THROUGH THAT TO SOLVE THAT ISSUE WITH THE DEVELOPER. SO THAT SHOULDN'T IMPACT OUR OUR PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY. ALL RIGHT. >> YEAH. >> SO I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN THE SCHEMATICS. I MEAN, YOU HAD THEM LAID OUT HERE ON A HUGE TABLE A YEAR AGO. HAVE THEY CHANGED MUCH SINCE THEN? >> NO. >> SO, YOU KNOW, THE ALIGNMENTS ARE MOSTLY THE SAME. >> THEY SHOULD BE EVERYTHING YOU'VE SEEN BECAUSE LIKE THAT DEVELOPMENT CAME ON TO THE RIGHT OF WAY INSTEAD OF JUST ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. WHAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO DO, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE RIGHTS IS THERE'S TEN LOTS AT 180,000 A LOT. THE COUNTY'S JUST PROBABLY GOING TO END UP HAVING TO PAY PULTE TO ELIMINATE THOSE LOTS. SO IT'S IT'S CHEAPER TO DO THAT THAN IT IS TO START OVER ON THE SCHEMATIC BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO. WE HAD TO WE HAD TO BE WHERE WE'RE AT. SO WE'RE. AND IT WASN'T YOURS, THIS STAFF'S FAULT. THIS WAS A PREVIOUS STAFF YEARS AGO ISSUE THAT OCCURRED. SO EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS INNOCENT. SO IT'S THE SAME EXACT ALIGNMENT I'VE SEEN. >> NO, I JUST I MEAN, IT'S I MEAN, WE CAN GO TO ON LIKE THE NEXT TIME YOU'RE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT, YOU CAN GO SEE THAT ALIGNMENT AND BUT THIS ONE IS MUCH LESS PUBLIC, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO HOME FOR A LOT OF US. AND THE I MEAN, THIS IS, YOU SEE ME TURNING TO CHARLIE MORE SO THAN YOU, BUT WE NEED THAT ALIGNMENT. I KNOW IT'S NASCENT. I KNOW IT'S NOT THE FINAL APPROVED, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE PUBLIC MORE BECAUSE PEOPLE, PEOPLE DON'T. I MEAN, THE SURPRISE OF SUDDENLY THEM BREAKING GROUND, EVEN IF WE'VE KNOWN THE ALIGNMENT FOR THREE YEARS, IT IRRITATES THE CRUD OUT OF PEOPLE. >> OKAY, SO TEXDOT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT RECALCITRANT ON LETTING YOU DO THAT PUBLICLY BECAUSE IT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. THEY USED TO SAY SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE, BUT WE GOT THEM JUST TO SAY SUBJECT TO CHANGE. YEAH. BUT BY SEPTEMBER IT WILL BE THE APPROVED SCHEMATIC. SO THAT FINAL ITERATION WITH GOING BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH TEXDOT, WE HAD TO SHORE UP OUR SCHEMATIC ARGUMENT BASED ON THE ABILITY TO BUILD INTERIM FRONTAGE ROADS WITHOUT HAVING TO TOUCH THE MAIN LANE. SO WE HAD TO TWEAK IT FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, BUT NOT FROM AN ACTUAL DRIVING STANDPOINT, RIGHT? WE HAD TO MAKE SURE WE HAD DELIVERABLE DISCRETE PROJECTS FOR THE STATE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS IN PIECES, AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BUILD THE PIECES FROM SHERMAN BACK TOWARDS BONNIE BRAE FIRST, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD Y'ALL NEED FIRST. BUT NOTHING'S CHANGED. BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE KIND OF LITTLE TWEAKS, THE STATE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE LESS THAN WILLING TO LET YOU JUST TAKE WHAT IS A PRELIMINARY SCHEMATIC AND PUT IT UP ON THE WEB SOMEWHERE. >> JOHN, I FEEL YOU, BUT AND THE THE NORTHWEST NORTH PARTS HAVEN'T REALLY CHANGED IN THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH YOU ABOUT THESE. >> I WOULD SAY THIS. >> IT'S THAT EASTERN BYPASS SECTION THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE ALL THE HEARTBURN. AND YOU'VE SEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS POTENTIALLY IMPACT IT HOME. YOU KNOW, KINGSWAY AREA STUFF IMPACT IT. EVERYTHING IS HITTING RIGHT IN THAT END PROJECT CORRIDOR AND, AND I WOULD BE A BAD REPRESENTATIVE IF I DIDN'T TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT IN THE PUBLIC. >> OKAY. SO I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO DO THIS, BUT Y'ALL HAVE THE SCHEMATIC, RIGHT? SO YOU DON'T ASK FOR PERMISSION. >> JOHN. >> JOHN POLLSTER SAID THAT WE SHOULD PUT IT ON THE WEB. THAT'S WHAT I JUST HEARD. >> HIM SAYING. >> THAT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS I DON'T. >> OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> BONNIE BRAE. >> SO BONNIE BRAE IS A PART OF THIS PROJECT AND IT'S JUST A BREAKOUT BECAUSE IT'S A BREAKOUT THE COG. AND I'D HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR BONNIE BRAE PROJECT. THIS IS Y'ALL'S BONNIE BRAE SEVEN, BUT IT'S INCLUDED IN OUR 288 JOB. 1515. I MEAN, [00:30:02] WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE READY TO LET THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ALREADY ACQUIRED. THE UTILITIES WEREN'T COMPENSABLE, SO THERE WAS NO IMPACT FUNDING WISE. IT'S JUST GETTING THROUGH THE UTILITIES, WHICH ARE ALL THESE RIGHT HERE. AND IT HAS ALREADY LET DATE OF MARCH OF NEXT YEAR. RIGHT. YEAH. AND. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE ASSUMPTIONS THEY MADE ON THE 27 UTP BACK AND LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT TO GET IT APPROVED THIS YEAR. AND MY SON ALWAYS CORRECTS ME ON THE COST OF THE BARREL OF OIL BECAUSE HE ALWAYS TRACKS THAT. BUT THEIR ASSUMPTION WAS OIL WAS GOING TO BE AT $75. IT'S NORTH OF THAT, WHICH MEANS PROP ONE WILL HAVE MORE MONEY IN IT, RIGHT? 105 SO MORE MONEY WILL BE IN PROP ONE, WHICH IS THE MONEY THAT YOU GET FROM OIL GAS THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO TRANSPORTATION. SO WE THINK TWO THINGS. ONE, NEXT YEAR'S PICTURE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROSY. TWO PROJECTS AREN'T GETTING READY ELSEWHERE STILL. AND WE'VE HAD 2 OR 3 PROJECTS, 377 THROUGH ARGYL WAS NOT IN THE TEN YEAR PLAN. IT WAS NOT I MEAN, IT WAS IN THE TEN YEAR PLAN, BUT IT WASN'T IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS, WHICH IS THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY FUNDED. PROJECTS FELL OUT. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT ARGYL PROJECT FUNDED AND IT MAY OR JUNE, I CAN'T REMEMBER. WE'RE THINKING 1515 BECAUSE THEY THEY NEEDED TO FIND A PROJECT. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE THINK THAT PRETTY CLOSE TO WHEN THIS PROJECT IS READY TO LET. IT HAS A VERY STRONG POTENTIAL OF FINDING FUNDING, EVEN IN A TIGHT ECONOMY, BECAUSE OTHER ENTITIES ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE DON'T GET THEIR PROJECTS READY. YEAH. >> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. >> YEAH. 1173 THE SAME SAME BOAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE READY IN MARCH ON THAT ONE. IT'S UTILITIES THAT WERE MOVING ARE NOT COMPENSABLE. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OUTER LOOP. >> SURE. >> OH WE'RE GOING TO. >> THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT ANSWER. >> YEAH. >> JUST JUST A SKIM. JUST SKIM IT OVER. >> ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S WE'RE SHOWING YOU THE GREEN BLOB BECAUSE IN JUNE, MAY OR JUNE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU. I KNOW IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, BUT IT'S NOT OFFICIAL. YEAH. SO I CAN, SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE OFFICIAL ONE. I CAN GIVE YOU THE UNOFFICIAL ONE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, HEY, MAKE SURE THAT WE CHANGE THIS TO GET THE THERE'S TWO ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE THERE'S THE EIS IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE YOU CAN DO. WE'RE GOING THROUGH AN EIS ON THAT. AND WHAT THE IRS REQUIRES YOU TO DO IS TAKE TWO ALIGNMENTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS, NOT ONE. SO WE HAVE A RED AND BLUE NORTH AND SOUTH, RIGHT. AND THE SOUTHERN ALIGNMENT IS THE TECHNICALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. AND IT ALSO MATCHES YOUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT WILL. >> THAT'S BC OH I'M SORRY CHAIR IS THAT B, C AND E? THE SOUTHERN ALIGNMENTS ON BOTH SIDES. >> YEP. >> OKAY. >> AND EVERYTHING EAST OF THE GREEN BELT, ALL THOSE COMMUNITIES THERE'S ACTUALLY HAVE A BENEVOLENT BENEFACTOR OUT THERE WHO WHENEVER THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP THE ROAD ON THE ROAD, HE GOES AND BUYS A LAND. SO THERE'S A GUY OUT THERE THAT OWNS TWO THIRDS OF THAT AREA OVER THERE, AND HE'S PROTECTING THE CORRIDOR BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT IT TO GO ONTO HIS PROPERTY. THAT'S HOW MUCH MONEY HE'S GOT SO THAT THE EAST PART IS PROTECTED. THE WEST PART, YOUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN PRETTY MUCH DRIVES IT WHERE IT HAS TO BE. AND THE ONLY ISSUE WE'RE DEALING WITH IS CROSSING THE GREEN BELT. WE THINK WE'VE GOT THE CORE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN'T. WE HAVE TO COME OUTSIDE THEIR EASEMENT. THERE ARE SOME CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE FEDERALLY SET. SO WE HAVE TO LITERALLY TRY TO CHANGE CONGRESS, TO ACT TO CONGRESS TO MOVE IT. BUT WE HAVE TO GET THE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO OWN THE LAND TO AGREE TO THE CHANGES. AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO REALLY DO A LOT OF INCREDIBLE LEVEL OF ENHANCEMENT, BECAUSE THEY WANTED IT PRESERVED AS A HABITAT. SO WE'RE HAVING TO ENHANCE THE HABITAT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND WE'VE GOT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND $90 MILLION EARMARKED FOR THAT, DEPENDING UPON WHAT WE END UP HAVING TO DO. SO THE GREEN BELT IS GOING TO BE BETTER BECAUSE OF THE ROAD THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE OUTER LOOP. BUT WE'LL WE'LL START SHOWING YOU THE TWO. AND BY JUNE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU OFFICIALLY THAT THE SOUTHERN ROAD SECTION IS THE TECHNICALLY PREFERRED AND LOCALLY PREFERRED. >> SO THAT'S IT. MILLAM. >> MILLAM. >> MILLAM. >> OKAY. AND GO AHEAD. I'VE [00:35:02] BEEN OUT OF ORDER. I APOLOGIZE. >> JUST JUST FINISH UP WITH. >> WHAT YOU WERE. SO THEN HOW'S THAT GOING TO AFFECT SEGMENT 92? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT SEGMENT AND THIS SEGMENT AND THEN THE WHERE THE AND THIS IS COUNTY. BUT YOU ALSO DO COUNTY. SO WHERE THE NEW RODEO IS GOING AND THEN THEIR ENTRANCE. THESE THESE ARE THREE THINGS ALL HAPPENING AT THE SAME LOCATION. >> WE DESIGNED THE ALIGNMENT OF THE OUTER LOOP AT MILAM AND TO THE NORTH FOR THE FRONTAGE ROAD SYSTEM. WE KEPT THE BOX FOR THE DIRECT CONNECT AND WE'LL GET YOU EXHIBIT BECAUSE WE OFFSET THE ROAD TO BE ABLE TO HIT THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE WEST SIDE, WHERE IT HITS RIGHT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINES FOR ALL THE PROPERTY. THE COUNTY OWNS ALL THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. SO WE'RE SPLITTING THE HAIR ON THAT. SO WE HAD TO GO A LITTLE BIT NORTH, BUT WE KEEP THE THE ACCESS POINTS TO THE FRONTAGE ROADS TO GO TO THE HIGHWAY THE SAME. SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OFFSET FRONTAGE ROAD. AND THEN THE DIRECT CONNECTS DO WHAT THEY DO. SO IT ACCOMMODATES EVERYTHING TO THE WEST, ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY. WE'RE GOING TO. WE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON COUNTIES, WORKING ON MILAM ALL THE WAY TO 156, BECAUSE IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT A MAP, ONCE YOU GET PAST 35, IF YOU CAN GET TO 156, 156 CAN BE THE NEXT EXTENSION OF A OF AN OUTER LOOP FURTHER SOUTH. OKAY. >> AND ON THE, ON THE C, THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS CORRIDOR. IS THAT INCLUDE FLOOD CONTROL OVER THAT SECTION. >> EVERYTHING WHERE WE'RE NOT ONLY ARE WE DOING THAT, BUT WE HAVE AN OVERLAY OF THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR, THIS WHOLE 23 MILES CALLED. IT'S CALLED THE C OR TRANSPORTATION STORMWATER INITIATIVE. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO BE TAKING WHATEVER THE WATER IS THAT COMES TO THE ROAD, WE RECOGNIZE THE ROAD'S GOING TO BE A SOMEWHAT OF A DAM. AND SO WE'RE GOING UP ALL THE TRIBUTARIES NORTH AND SOUTH OF US, AND WE'RE BUYING UP. WE'RE GOING TO BE BUYING ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOODWAY, NOT THE FLOODPLAIN. AND WE'RE GOING TO RESTRUCTURE THAT SO THAT IT HOLDS WATER FULL TIME. AND THE INTENT IS TO FIND A WAY. WE ALREADY GOT A PILOT COUNTY, ALREADY GOT A PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS ON ANOTHER SECTION TO FIND A WAY TO TAKE THAT WATER. AND AS IT'S HELD THERE PERMANENTLY, FIND A WAY TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER. SO WE'RE NOT JUST SENDING IT DOWNRIVER, WE'RE HOLDING IT. WE'RE NOT HOLDING IT JUST TO HOLD IT. WE'RE HOLDING IT TO FIND A WAY TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER. >> IF THAT'S GOING TO BE STANDING WATER, THEN THEN WHAT ABOUT THE TRAILS THROUGH NORTH SOUTH, WHICH I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. NO, THEY ARE. THEY ARE OURS. >> THAT'S PART OF THAT. THAT'S PART ALL THOSE TRAILS WILL BE. WE HAVE TO EITHER AVOID, MITIGATE OR ENHANCE. WE CAN'T AVOID. THE MITIGATION IS DECENT. WE'RE. ENHANCING. THE WHOLE CORRIDOR IS AN ENHANCEMENT CORRIDOR. SO WE'VE GOT LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 90 MILLION JUST IDENTIFIED AT THE GREENBELT FOR THAT. AND ALL THE TRAILS WILL HAVE TO BE BY FEDERAL LAW, CONTINUE TO BE CONNECTED. AND OUR PROJECT CAN'T PRECLUDE THAT. IT HAS TO EITHER MITIGATE, AVOID OR ENHANCE. AND WE'RE ENHANCING. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. >> SO WE'LL GET YOU A BETTER MAP. >> STANDING WATER. >> YEAH. I DIDN'T LIKE THAT. WHAT LAKE. LEWISVILLE STANDING WATER. >> WELL I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT HOW LONG DOES IT STAND. >> THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT? IT'S GOING TO BE A PERMANENT FEATURE. IT'LL BE AN ESTHETICALLY PLEASING FEATURE. THAT ALSO IS IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING THAT WATER AND CHARGING THE AQUIFER. >> OKAY. SO IS THERE A. >> IS THERE? WE'RE MAKING IT UP AS WE GO. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU ANY MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE NOBODY'S EVER DONE THIS BEFORE. >> THERE'S A PIPE IN THE LOWEST PART TO, TO, TO THE AQUIFER. YEAH. NO SIR. NO. >> NO, IT'S WHEN YOU SAY I APOLOGIZE, WHEN I SAY BEST MANAGEMENT, THAT'S A CORPS OF ENGINEERS TERM FOR YOU GOT TO USE NATURAL STUFF NATURAL. >> SO IT'S JUST GOING TO SEEP THROUGH. >> WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO STRATIFY IF WE HAVE TO. RIGHT. BUT WE CAN'T JUST PUMP IT IN BECAUSE THAT'S RAW WATER. IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH SOME FILTRATION SYSTEM. THE CORPS REQUIRES THAT FILTRATION SYSTEM TO BE NATURAL. >> I GOT IT, OKAY. >> IT'S A IT'S WE'RE MAKING IT UP AS WE GO ALONG. WE CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY WHERE THIS HAS BEEN DONE. >> SO THAT'LL. >> BE GOOD. WE'RE JUST GOING TO FIGURE. >> IT OUT. >> THAT'S COOL. YEAH, I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> PLEASE SAY NO. >> LOOK, HE EVEN SCROLLED UP OFF THE PAGE. >> HE WAS DONE WITH US. >> YEAH. HE'S LIKE, OKAY. I [00:40:01] LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT, JOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU AND YOUR PATIENCE. >> YES, MA'AM. >> BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW AND WE GOTTA LAY IT OUT THERE. >> THAT'S WHY. >> WE'RE HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOUR SON. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR HELPING. YOU KNOW THE OLD MAN OUT. IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL STILL CALL OLD PARENTS? CALL THEM POPS. POPS? YOU KNOW, HELPING THEM OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF THERE'S NOT [C. MC26-012 Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the Vision Zero Phase II - Implementation Plan to introduce and share the information on different elements of the study, findings, and recommendations. [Estimated Presentation Time: 30 minutes]] ANYTHING ELSE, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO MC TWO 6-012. RECEIVE A REPORT. NO DISCUSSION REGARDING THE VISION ZERO PHASE TWO IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TO INTRODUCE AND SHARE THE INFORMATION ON DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE STUDY FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. DOCTOR BUTTS, GOOD TO HAVE YOU. THERE YOU GO. WELL. >> WHICH ONE IS. YEAH. PRESENTATION, PLEASE. OKAY, OKAY. AND THEN USES. OKAY. THANKS. GOOD MORNING CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS. FARHAN. BUT DEPUTY DIRECTOR, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES DIVISION, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE VISION ZERO PHASE TWO IMPLEMENTATION PLAN STUDY. THE STUDY IS COMPLETE NOW AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH FINAL STAGES ■OF TAKING IT TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE AND LATER TO COUNCIL. WE. FOR THIS STUDY, WE TOOK THE. THE LEAD PROJECT MANAGER WAS DOCTOR SAHAR ESFANDIARI FROM TRANSPORTATION SERVICES AND THE STUDY FOCUSED ON FIVE KEY FOCUS AREAS. FIRST WAS TO ESTABLISH A TASK FORCE FOR THE VISION ZERO PROCESS, AND WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT. AND THE TASK FORCE INCLUDES A LOT OF MEMBERS FROM DIFFERENT KEY STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE REGION. AND THEN WE HAD WE HAD TO ESTABLISH VISION ZERO TIMELINE FOR FEDERAL COMPLIANCE TO TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH FEDERAL PROCESSES. SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT AS WELL AS A CITY. AND WE'LL LATER TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE PRESENTATION. AND THEN WE ALSO WERE AS. ANOTHER IMPORTANT FOCUS AREA WAS TO ESTABLISH A HIGH INJURY NETWORK. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CANNOT JUST GO AROUND AND MAKE IMPLEMENTATIONS HAPHAZARDLY. SO WE NEEDED SOME METHODIC PROCESS WHERE WE ASSESS THE CRASH DATA AND COME UP WITH HIGH INJURY, HIGH FREQUENCY LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INCAPACITATING INJURIES, HOT SPOTS. WE IDENTIFIED THOSE THROUGH THIS STUDY, AND WE WILL ALSO SHOW THOSE IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION. AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAD TO COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH MEANS IMPLEMENTATION RECOMMENDATIONS, LESS PLANNING, MORE IMPLEMENTATION, WHAT WE CAN DO IMMEDIATELY, MID-TERM AND LONG TERM. AND WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE. AND SO WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOW WE HAVE A SOLID ACTION PLAN AS WELL, WHICH WE WILL LATER SHARE AFTER THE PRESENTATION, MAYBE IF WE HAVE TIME. BUT I THINK AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THE IF YOU IF IF THE ACTION ITEM IS REQUIRED, THE ONE ACTION ITEM THAT WE CAME UP AFTER THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS THAT WE HAVE A LIST OF ACTIONABLE IMPLEMENTATION PROJECTS THAT WE ARE PROACTIVELY LAUNCHING. WE HAVE APPLIED FOR MULTIPLE GRANTS, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE LATER AFTER THE PRESENTATION WITH ME HERE WE HAVE OUR COLLEAGUE FROM KIMLEY-HORN, RAUL OROZCO, AND HE IS THE LEAD PROJECT MANAGER FROM KIMLEY-HORN SIDE ON THIS PROJECT. AND SO RAUL WILL BE PRESENTING THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU RALPH. THANK YOU. >> AWESOME. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING. AND I GUESS I'M JUST CLICKING THIS FOR THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. YES. AWESOME. SO JUST TO GET US STARTED, AND I THINK SOME OF YOU ALL WERE ON THE VISION ZERO TASK FORCE. SO SOME OF THESE WILL BE VERY FAMILIAR TO YOU ALL. SO TO GIVE AN INTRODUCTION ON WHAT VISION ZERO IS, IS ESSENTIALLY A STRATEGY TO ELIMINATE ALL FATALITIES ON CITY ROADWAYS WHILE ENHANCING SAFETY, HEALTH AND EQUITABLE MOBILITY FOR EVERYONE. SO JUST SOME OF THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESCRIBED AS PART OF VISION ZERO ARE THE REDUCTION OF FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES. A LIFE IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE EXERCISES THAT WE DID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS WAS RECOGNIZING ALL WHO HAVE BEEN HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES ON ROADWAYS AS A RESULT OF, OF FATALITIES, ON VEHICULAR CRASHES. THERE'S AN ENHANCED QUALITY OF LIFE. THERE'S VARIOUS ECONOMIC BENEFITS, OF COURSE, LOWER HEALTH, HEALTH CARE COSTS, REDUCED PROPERTY DAMAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN IT PROMOTES SUSTAINABLE AND SMART URBAN PLANNING AS WELL. TO TALK ABOUT THE VISION ZERO PROCESS. SO WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED WHAT WE CALL [00:45:07] THE SAFE SYSTEM APPROACH, WHICH HAS THESE FIVE PILLARS HERE SAFER PEOPLE, SAFER VEHICLES, SAFER SPEEDS, SAFER ROADS, AND THEN POST-CRASH CARE AS WELL. SO THE THOUGHT IS THAT IF ALL PILLARS OF THE SAFE SYSTEM APPROACH FAIL, THAT IS WHEN A FATALITY HAPPENS. SO WE LIKE OUR LITTLE SWISS CHEESE GRAPHIC THAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE ON THE RIGHT. SO THAT IS HOW YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, DEATH AND SERIOUS INJURY ONLY HAPPENS WHEN ALL LAYERS FAIL. BUT IF THERE'S 1 OR 2 LAYERS THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED IN A VERY SUCCESSFUL MANNER, THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO SAVE A LIFE IN THAT CASE. AND THEN SOME OF THE CORE PRINCIPLES ARE THAT DEATH OR SERIOUS INJURIES IS UNACCEPTABLE. HUMANS DO MAKE MISTAKES, BUT IT'S ALSO RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SYSTEM. SO HAVING A SYSTEM THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THOSE MISTAKES AS WELL IS IMPORTANT. AND THEN SAFETY SHOULD BE PROACTIVE. SO THERE SHOULD BE A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH TO ACCOMPLISHING A GREATER LEVEL OF ROADWAY SAFETY ON CITY ROADWAYS. AND THEN FINALLY, REDUNDANCY IS CRUCIAL, OF COURSE, BEING REDUNDANT WITH THESE VARIOUS SYSTEMS AS WELL. SO IN TERMS OF OUR PROJECT TIMELINE, SO WE REALLY GOT KICKED OFF BACK IN JANUARY OF 2025. SO IT'S BEEN ABOUT A LITTLE BIT UNDER A YEAR AND A HALF. WE'VE HOSTED FIVE VISION ZERO TASK FORCE MEETINGS. WE ALSO HOSTED A POP UP EVENT AT THE EXPLOREUM TOUCH, A TRUCK THAT HAPPENED LAST MAY. AND THEN WE ALSO HOSTED A COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE, WHICH WAS VERY HIGHLY ATTENDED BY THE PUBLIC. AND COUNCILMAN BECK, YOU ATTENDED THAT AS WELL. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO DONE PRETTY IN-DEPTH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT VIA AN ONLINE SURVEY, WHICH RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF ENGAGEMENT. AND I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDE NEXT THAT FOLLOWS THAT. SO OUR VISION ZERO TARGET THAT WAS ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS WITH THE VISION ZERO TASK FORCE, WAS THE REDUCTION OF FATALITIES BY 50% BY 2035, AND THEN A 100% REDUCTION BY 2050. SO THESE ARE ACTUALLY GOALS THAT ALIGN WITH THE TEX DOT SYSTEM. SO TEX DOT ACTUALLY HAS THESE GOALS IMPLEMENTED AS WELL. SO DENTON IS ESSENTIALLY JUST ALIGNING THEMSELVES WITH THAT. BUT OF COURSE WITHIN THIS PROCESS, THERE WAS THE INTENT THAT THE CITY WILL ALSO ADD SOME INCREMENTAL GOALS THAT MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE ONCE THE PLAN HAS BEEN ADOPTED. YES. SO JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT. SO OUR SURVEY WAS OPEN FROM MAY 15TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 18TH OF 2025. THERE WERE QUITE A BIT OF VIEWS HERE. WE GOT OVER 2000 VIEWS ON THE SITE. THERE WERE OVER 600 CONTRIBUTIONS THAT INCLUDED 516 MAP SURVEY PINS, AND THEN 193 WRITTEN SURVEYS. SO THESE WERE ALL PARTICIPANTS THAT INCLUDED THE. THE MAP SURVEY WAS MORE OF LIKE A GEOSPATIAL. WHERE WHERE DOES THE COMMUNITY SEE VARIOUS ISSUES. SO THE COMMUNITY WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ON THAT. AND THEN THE WRITTEN SURVEY WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE KEY PRIORITIES WERE. SO A LOT OF THOSE INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, GREATER WALKABILITY, GREATER ROADWAY SAFETY. THERE WERE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE NOTICED. RED LIGHT RUNNING SEEM TO BE AN ISSUE THAT WAS NOTICED AS WELL BY THE PUBLIC. AND THEN OUR IN-PERSON ENGAGEMENT INCLUDED THE SIX VISION ZERO TASK FORCE MEETINGS, WHICH, LIKE FARHAN MENTIONED, THAT HAD IT WAS COMPRISED OF A VARIETY OF KEY CITY STAFF MEMBERS. COUNCILWOMAN BYRD WAS THERE. COUNCILWOMAN RUMOHR WAS PART OF IT AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAD COUNCILWOMAN JESTER. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD COMMISSIONER PRUITT AS PART OF THE VISION ZERO TASK FORCE MEETING. SOME OF SOME OF OUR EXTERNAL EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDED TXDOT. WE HAD MEMBERS FROM THE COUNTY, WE HAD MEMBERS FROM BOTH OF THE KEY UNIVERSITIES HERE IN THE CITY AS WELL. SO A VERY WELL REPRESENTED TASK FORCE. IN TERMS OF OUR CRASH ANALYSIS. SO THE DATA WAS COLLECTED USING TEXTS CHRIS INFORMATION SYSTEM FOR CRASHES. SO THE TOTAL CRASHES WITHIN THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD TOTALED A LITTLE BIT OVER 15000, WITH FATAL CRASHES ENCOMPASSING 68 OF THOSE CRASHES. SO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A PEAK IN 2019. AND THEN WE HAVE A AVERAGE FATALITIES PER 100,000 OF ABOUT 10.8, JUST UNDER 11, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN QUITE A BIT OF OUR PEER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE. AND THEN WE NOTED THAT WHILE CRASH FREQUENCY DECREASED IN RECENT YEARS, THE SEVERITIES HAVE INCREASED. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A METRIC THAT WE'RE NOT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. SO FAR, I ALREADY MENTIONED THE HYDROGEN NETWORK. SO WHAT THAT IS, IS A COLLECTION OF YOUR ROADWAY SEGMENTS ACROSS THE NETWORK THAT ENCOMPASS THE HIGHEST DENSITIES OF FATAL SERIOUS INJURY AND MINOR INJURY CRASHES. SO THE LINES THAT ARE IN RED ON THE MAP ENCOMPASS LESS THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL [00:50:02] TOTAL ROADWAY NETWORK. BUT WITHIN THESE ABOUT 10% OF THE ROAD NETWORK, THERE ARE ALMOST 70% OF ALL FATAL CRASHES HAPPENING HERE. SO THAT'S IT'S A VERY, VERY POWERFUL WAY OF IDENTIFYING AND PRIORITIZING SEGMENTS ACROSS YOUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THE FUTURE. AS PART OF THE STUDY, THERE WERE ALSO SIX STUDY CORRIDORS SELECTED. SO IN THE FUTURE, DENTON WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE CORRIDORS AND CREATE MORE TARGETED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THEM. SO PART OF THIS STUDY WAS TO RECOMMEND FURTHER ROADWAY SAFETY AUDITS WITHIN THESE CORRIDORS TO FURTHER IDENTIFY MORE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ALONG KEY INTERSECTIONS OR SEGMENTS OF THOSE CORRIDORS. AND THEN THESE WERE SELECTED TOGETHER WITH CITY STAFF AND THE VISION ZERO TASK FORCE AS WELL. THERE WAS ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COUNTERMEASURE TOOLBOX. SO THESE I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 15 COUNTERMEASURES IN HERE. SO THE PLAN OUTLINES WHAT THE COUNTERMEASURE IS, WHERE DOES IT WORK AND WHERE IT SHOULD BE APPLIED. AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS. SO WHAT WE SEE HERE ARE THE COUNTERMEASURES LISTED. AND THE CMF STANDS FOR CRASH MODIFICATION FACTOR. SO AFTER A COUNTERMEASURE IS APPLIED ONTO A SPECIFIC ROADWAY, THE CMF INDICATES THE RATIO OF CRASHES THAT CAN BE EXPECTED AFTER APPLICATION. SO FOR EXAMPLE, AN RAISED MEDIAN OR PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLAND, THE CMF INDICATES A 0.29. SO A 71% REDUCTION AFTER THAT IS IMPLEMENTED. ANOTHER EXAMPLE COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, A MID-BLOCK CROSSWALK. SO IN AN AREA WHERE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT PEDESTRIAN CRASH RATE, IMPLEMENTING A CROSSWALK COULD REDUCE CRASHES TO PEDESTRIANS BY ABOUT 18% HERE. AND THEN AS WELL. SO THE PLAN CULMINATES IN WHAT WE CALL THE IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM. AND I ACTUALLY HAVE THE HANDOUTS OF THE ACTION PLAN WITH ME IF Y'ALL WANT TO PASS THEM AROUND. SO SAHARA SAHARA ASKED ME TO PRINT OUT THOSE. THAT SECTION OF THE PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE IMPLEMENTATION TABLE. SO EACH OF THE ACTIONS INCLUDES THE ACTION ITSELF, THE EMPHASIS AREA THAT'S AT THE STATEWIDE LEVEL, THE TIME FRAME IN WHICH EACH ACTION SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED, AND THEN SOME POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION PARTNERS AS WELL. AND THEN THESE ACTIONS WERE DIVIDED INTO THE FIVE PILLARS OF THE SAFE SYSTEM APPROACH. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT CITY STAFF DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TO ORGANIZE THIS ACTION PLAN. ONCE AGAIN, THE ACTION MATRIX IS DIVIDED BY THESE VARIOUS ORGANIZATION FACTORS. SO THE FULL MATRIX INCLUDES ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OVER 40 ACTIONS THAT ARE ORGANIZED BY EACH OF THE PILLARS. SO THERE'S NINE WITHIN THE SAFER PEOPLE, FIVE WITHIN SAFER VEHICLES, FIVE WITHIN SAFER SPEEDS, 14 WITHIN SAFER ROADS. AND THEN FINALLY, NINE WITHIN POST-CRASH CARE. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION PORTION OF THIS. SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. YES, SIR. >> ANY QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. SO FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU. IN THE IN THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION ZERO TEAM, THERE'S CLEARLY A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AND WORK. YOU MENTIONED ALL THE TIME WE PUT INTO IT. SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP US UP TO DATE. THE THERE'S A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD FOR THE CAB INCREASES. DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT'S LEADING TO THOSE UPTICKS? >> YES. SO THE THE PLAN ACTUALLY DIVES A LOT DEEPER INTO THE DATA ITSELF. SO CHAPTER THREE, I THINK IT WAS PROVIDED. THE PLAN WAS PROVIDED AS PART OF THIS, THE PACKET FOR TODAY. BUT WE DO SEE A LOT OF THINGS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, SPEED RELATED CRASHES BEING A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THOSE CRASHES. SO A LOT OF THE COUNTERMEASURES ARE GEARED TOWARDS ADDRESSING SOME OF THAT. ANOTHER THING WAS LIGHTING CONDITIONS. SO IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S LOWER LIGHTING, WE SEE A LOT MORE CRASHES AND THEN CRASHES HAPPENING AT NIGHT AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE TRENDS THAT WE NOTICED AS WELL. I THINK ALSO EITHER DISTRACTED DRIVING OR IMPAIRED DRIVING WAS A THIRD HIGHEST OF THE OF THE FACTORS THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS WELL. YES. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. I GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. ONE YOU MENTIONED, AND I NOTED IT WHEN I WAS READING THE BACKUP. YOU KNOW THAT SOME OF THE COMPARABLES DO WE HAVE, I GUESS THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT I MEAN, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE WE LIE, I MEAN, ON COMPARABLES FOR NORTH TEXAS OR COMPARABLES IN THE UNITED STATES, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS, I MEAN, ERROR BARS AND CONFIDENCE INTERVALS ARE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW WELL YOU'RE DOING WHEN THE DATA IS VARIABLE. [00:55:03] SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE DRIFTING UPWARDS OR DOWNWARDS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE CONTEXT IN WHICH YOU'RE OPERATING. SO THAT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A CRITICISM. IT'S JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DATA A LITTLE BETTER IN FUTURE REPRESENTATIONS. >> YES. SO THAT FARHAN. BUT TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, THAT COMPARISON IS OBVIOUS. NEXT QUESTION. BUT WE STAFF, THERE'S A LIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COMPARE WITH OTHER REGIONS BECAUSE EVERY REGION HAS A DIFFERENT CONTEXT. SO IN PARTICULAR, THE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INCAPACITATING INJURIES ARE SO CONTEXT RELATED. SO REGIONAL REGION LOCATED REGION RELATED. FOR INSTANCE, THE ACCIDENTS REGIONS OF ACCIDENTS NEAR FREEWAY IN FORT WORTH WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN DENTON AROUND US. 380 SO IT'S HIGHLY CONTEXT SENSITIVE. AND THAT'S WHY WE CANNOT HAVE CONFIDENCE INTERVAL, BECAUSE CONFIDENCE INTERVAL BE WITHIN THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR DENTON. AND THEN YES, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. BUT IT IS HAPPENING. FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE 95% CONFIDENCE THAT FATALITIES ARE DUE TO SPEEDING. BUT WE CANNOT GENERALIZE THAT BECAUSE FORT WORTH IS HAVING OR SOME OTHER CITY IS HAVING FATALITY AS MAIN CAUSE. IT WOULD BE THE SAME IN DENTON. THAT COMPARISON IS WOULD BE SKEWED. >> NO, I TAKE YOUR POINT AND I I'M MORE AM INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF TRACKING HOW WELL WE'RE DOING ON OUR, OUR GETTING TO 2035 AND 2050 GOALS. SO NOT THAT'S, THAT'S MORE SO THOSE SORTS OF INTERVALS, THOSE SORTS OF ERROR BARS ARE MORE WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN THAN NECESSARILY NORTH TEXAS, THE UNITED STATES IN GENERAL. SURE. THAT SAID, WE BOTH DO DATA ANALYTICS FOR A LIVING, AND WE BOTH KNOW YOU CAN DO A REGRESSION ANALYSIS AND OTHER FORMS OF ANALYTICS TO GET TO THOSE NUMBERS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THAT IT THAT IT'S HARD IS NOT A REASON NOT TO DO IT. I THINK THIS IS EVIDENCE. >> WILL BE IT WILL BE EVIDENCE BASED FOR US. LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY. SO EVIDENCE BASED MEANS THAT WE HAVE SO AS AN IMPLEMENTATION. BUT WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR HIGH INJURY NETWORK NOW. SO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. SO WITH THAT WE ARE STARTING FOR INSTANCE, WE ARE STARTING WITH INSTEAD OF DOING A LOT OF DATA ANALYSIS. NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WHERE THE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS SERIOUS INJURIES ARE, WE ARE STARTING WITH THREE MAIN IMPLEMENTATION EFFORT. FIRST IS THAT WE HAVE APPLIED FOR TBI FUNDING FROM NCT COG. THAT IS SOLELY LOOKING AT THREE CORRIDORS IDENTIFIED IN THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK, BASED ON USING A LOT OF DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES. HIGH END TECHNOLOGIES, INCLUDING AI AS WELL, WILL BE PART OF THAT. SO THAT IS FIRST EFFORT TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION. NO PLANNING BECAUSE WE HAVE PLANNING NOW AND WE ARE LOOKING AT CORE CORRIDORS. THE SECOND IS SS FOR A DEMONSTRATION. SO SS FOR 2024 WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED THAT GRANT AND IT'S IN THE AGREEMENT EXECUTION STAGE. AS SOON AS THE AGREEMENT HAPPENS IS EXECUTED, WE ARE READY FOR IMPLEMENTATION. WE HAVE AT LEAST 2 OR 3 CORRIDORS WHICH WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW. THE THIRD ONE IS 2026 SS FOR WHICH WE ARE APPLYING, AND THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE THREE CORRIDORS FROM THIS SAME HIGH INJURY NETWORK FOR IMPLEMENTATION, LESS PLANNING, BECAUSE IN THE LAST ONE YEAR, WE HAVE WORKED WITH NCT COG TO IDENTIFY ANY PLANNING NEEDS, AND WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER WITH COG TO DEVELOP TO IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THOSE CORRIDORS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE ARE APPLYING FOR THAT. >> NO, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF ROLLING OUT PILOT PROJECTS EARLIER WITH SAMPLE DATA, SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP US GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC IS, WELL, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IN THIS, THE NORMAL REPORT, WE WE HAVE OUR ETA TIMELINES WHERE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING CERTAIN PROJECTS ALONG THE WAY THAT ACCOMPLISH CERTAIN GOALS. AND IT'S NICELY COLOR CODED. I FIND THOSE VERY EASY TO REFER THE PUBLIC TO AND GET THEIR AWARENESS OF. IF WE COULD HAVE THAT SORT OF LOGISTICAL TIMELINE OF, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS PILOT PROJECT, THIS PILOT PROJECT NOW, AND IT ACCOMPLISHES THESE THINGS. AND SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE, YEAH, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT WAITING TILL THE, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS INTO THE PROJECT, WE'RE STARTING NOW ON THESE TWO AND THE REST OF THE SIX OR WHATEVER IT IS, WILL BE SPREAD OUT. THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. >> STAFF WILL CIRCLE BACK. >> SO I WOULD LOVE THAT. >> THANK YOU. WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. AND ONLY ONE PILOT PROJECT, BY THE WAY, THE OTHER THREE WITH $10 MILLION $15 MILLION FUNDING REQUEST. THEY'RE ALL IMPLEMENTATION PROJECTS AND IMPLEMENTATION. >> THE ONLY LAST COMMENT I HAD BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING GREAT WORK. THIS IS REALLY GOOD. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IMPLEMENTING THESE THESE CHANGES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ONE OF THE THINGS [01:00:04] I NOTICED, I THINK IT WAS ON SLIDE NINE WHERE YOU HAD THE, THE, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CMF RESPONSES, MITIGATION FACTORS, SOME OF THEM ARE CHEAPER THAN OTHERS. PAINT PAINT IS CHEAPER THAN ENGINEERING KIND OF THINGS. AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD GIVE THE PUBLIC A FEEL, LIKE SOMETIMES WE JUST NEED TO BITE THE BULLET AND DO AN EXPENSIVE THING BECAUSE IT SAVES THE MOST LIVES QUICKLY. OTHER TIMES, SOMETHING AS CHEAP AS PAINT HAS A HIGH IMPACT FACTOR. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY AN EFFICIENT USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN ADD A COLUMN OF COST OR, OR COST PER CMF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL. >> EACH IN THE PLAN ITSELF. THIS IS IN CHAPTER FOUR OF THE PLAN. THERE ARE ONE PAGERS FOR EACH OF THE COUNTERMEASURES THAT INCLUDE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL. YES. SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DESCRIBED IN THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU DONE? I'M DONE. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING. EVERY LIFE IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE, AND IT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I LIVE ALONG ONE OF THESE CORRIDORS WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE DYING SINCE 2023. SO IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE DIED. AND IT IT TRULY BREAKS MY HEART. WE'VE GOT CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL ALONG SOME OF THESE CORRIDORS, AND MY CHILDREN AND I. TO ME, THIS IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE. AND I'M WONDERING. WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY GREAT ACTION ITEMS HERE. MOST OF THESE ARE WITHIN LIKE A 2 TO 5 YEAR TIMELINE. IN MY OPINION. WE DON'T HAVE. THAT'S MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. SO SPECIFICALLY, LIKE ON THE PAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE SAFER SPEEDS, WE KNOW WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS. IT'S NOW IN MULTIPLE PLACES HERE. SPEEDING IS THE ELEVATED SPEEDS ARE WHY MORE PEOPLE ARE DYING. SEEMS LIKE THIS IS PRETTY EVIDENT. WE'VE GOT THE EVIDENCE AND WE KNOW WHAT CAN WHAT CAN WORK TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN ON THIS TABLE 5.1 ALL OF THE TIME FRAMES FOR ADDRESSING THE SPEED IS 2 TO 5 YEARS OR OVER FIVE YEARS. HOW CAN WE MOVE UP THAT TIMELINE? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU KNOW, ON HERE OR THIS OR THE PAINTING OR CHANGING SPEED LIMITS? IF IS THERE A WAY WE CAN FAST TRACK, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE, DEVELOP SPEED LIMIT SETTING STANDARDS? IS THERE A WAY WE CAN DO THAT FASTER SO THAT WE CAN START PUTTING IN, ESPECIALLY ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY START IMPLEMENTING THINGS? >> YEAH, CERTAINLY. >> SO FOR THE SPEED THAT WAS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE VISION ZERO STUDY, WE ARE TAKING IT AS A PRIORITY. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE LAUNCHED THIS TPI BASED SPEED ASSESSMENT STUDY. THIS REALLY IS NOT A STUDY. ACTUALLY WE ARE WORKING WITH THREE HIGH INJURY NETWORK SITES WHERE WE WILL BE DEPLOYING THESE TECHNOLOGIES AND WILL BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, FOR INSTANCE, WE ARE DEPLOYING VARIABLE POSTED SPEED. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT HUMAN FACTORS, LINKAGES WITH THE DRIVER BEHAVIORS AND PEDESTRIAN BEHAVIORS. SO WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, IF THAT STUDY WILL BE THAT GRANT WILL BE AWARDED BY SEPTEMBER. AND AS SOON AS WE START, THESE MITIGATION MEASURES WILL BE WILL START GETTING IN PLACE. AND SO THAT IS REALLY NOT TWO YEARS. THAT IS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN THAT. BUT YES, GENERALLY TWO YEARS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN IN FINAL OUTCOMES. AND THEN IN OTHER THAN THAT, WE ARE ALSO CONSTANTLY APPLYING FOR CIP CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER CHANDRA, HE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN APPLYING FOR THOSE FUNDING FROM TXDOT. AND LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR CIP. AND SO THOSE ARE ALSO CONTINUOUS EFFORTS THAT TRANSPORTATION SERVICES HAVE BEEN MAKING VIGILANTLY, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE WE WE TRY TO FIND THESE SPACES AND WE FILL THOSE IN. UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO BUDGET LIMITATIONS WE HAVE, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO. AND IF THERE IS A PRIORITY THAT IS SET BY CITY LEADERSHIP, WE WILL FOLLOW THAT. OKAY. >> YEAH. AND I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, SO THAT'S A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE TABLE, HOW IT OUTLINES. SO THE TABLE ACTUALLY OUTLINES WHEN THOSE SHOULD BE COMPLETED. OKAY. DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL BE STARTED. RIGHT. SO IT'S MORE ABOUT LIKE, HEY, BY THE 2 TO 5 YEAR TIME FRAME, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED THE ACTION ITSELF. [01:05:01] YES. >> AND GO AHEAD. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, SO YOU ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT ABOUT SCHOOL CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL. SO AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 FOR A GRANT, KIMLEY-HORN IS ACTUALLY ASSISTING THE CITY IN PREPARING THE GRANT ITSELF. THERE IS A REQUEST TO DO SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PLANNING ON TEN SCHOOLS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED NEAR THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK AS WELL, SO THAT IS ALSO A PART OF THAT PACKAGE. THAT'S ADDITIONAL PLANNING. >> OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. AND I GUESS WHAT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IS I KNOW, AND I'M I'M NOT ON COUNCIL. I'M NOT, I'M JUST I'M JUST A CITIZEN HERE. THESE THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS. AND I, I SO ADMIRE OUR STAFF. IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE MAIN WAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO EVEN IMPLEMENT ANY OF THESE THINGS IS THROUGH GRANTS. I WOULD ASK THAT OUR COUNCIL CONSIDER OTHER WAYS TO FUND THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO. WE. IF WE'RE NOT PUTTING AS A CITIZEN, IT. IT. IT IS KIND OF HEARTBREAKING WHEN YOU SEE LANES AFTER LANES, AFTER LANES BEING BUILT AND, AND THE MONEY, WE FIND THE MONEY FOR THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE, WE FEEL THAT THEY'RE IMPORTANT. BUT WHEN WE CAN'T FUND AN AREA FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A CAR, WHAT THAT SAYS TO A CITIZEN LIKE ME IS OUR CITY IS NOT CHOOSING TO FUND THOSE THINGS. WE'RE HAVING TO WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT TO GO AND DO ALL THIS WORK, WHICH I SO APPRECIATE OF FINDING THE GRANTS. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS. I THINK IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR, FOR DENTON TO THINK ABOUT IF WE ARE READY TO REALLY PUSH THESE THINGS FORWARD FASTER, HOW CAN WE HOW CAN WE. >> FUND THIS? AND WE DO A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ALL ACROSS THE US. RIGHT. AND I WILL SAY ONE THING ABOUT DENTON THAT'S BEEN STARK, A STARK POSITIVE ESSENTIALLY, IS HOW MUCH GRANT FUNDING THE CITY IS REQUESTING, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE GRANTS HAVE MATCHING FUNDS, RIGHT? SO IT STRETCHES THE MONEY THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE BY FIVE TIMES EASILY. RIGHT. SO DENTON IS ACTUALLY APPLYING FOR THE MOST GRANTS OF ANYBODY THAT WE SEE PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE STATE EASILY. RIGHT? SO AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ONLY THAT YOU'RE APPLYING, IT'S, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE GRANTS AS WELL. SO THE FACT THAT THAT CITY STAFF HAS BECOME VERY WELL PREPARED WITH A LOT OF THESE STUDIES IS, IS EXTREMELY COMMENDABLE AS WELL. SO I DID WANT TO NOTE. >> THAT WE SO APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO ALSO ADD IN THAT THE LAST TWO YEARS, CITY COUNCIL HAS DEDICATED PROBABLY $4 MILLION, CLOSE TO $4 MILLION IN TOTAL TOWARDS ROADWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR CIP FUNDING. SO A LOT OF THAT WE'RE USING TOWARDS THE MATCHING PORTIONS OF THESE GRANTS, BUT THEY ALSO GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE AS WELL. >> I GOT SOME. >> I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE POINT IS THAT WE ARE CLOSELY WORKING WITH NCT COG AS WELL. AND AS I STATED THAT WE HAVE AUDITED THREE CORRIDORS WITH THEM AS A PROJECT AND FUNDED BY, I THINK USDOT AND NCT COG AND THOSE THREE CORRIDORS, EAGLE CARROLL AND MCKINNEY HICKORY, AND THEY WILL BE SUBMITTED WITH SS FOR A 2026 GRANT FOR IMPLEMENTATION. WE ACTUALLY HAVE CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE TO TO HAPPEN. THERE IS NO FURTHER PLANNING STUDY, BUT WE ARE SUBMITTING AS A REQUEST FOR FUNDING ABOUT $10 MILLION AND AND IF FUNDED, THOSE THREE CORRIDORS WILL BE FULLY IMPROVED IN TERMS OF ROAD SAFETY, ADA COMPLIANCE, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. >> YEAH. TO ADD SOME MORE CONTEXT ON THAT, THAT PROJECT. SO THE NCT COG CONDUCTED WHAT'S CALLED A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACTION PLAN. AND THAT'S HOW THOSE PRIORITY CORRIDORS WERE SELECTED. THAT WAS DONE IN 2022. RIGHT. SO THAT JUST KIND OF LETS YOU KNOW HOW LONG SOME OF THESE THINGS TAKE, RIGHT? SO THAT ACTUAL STUDY WAS CONDUCTED IN 2025. AND NOW FINALLY, THE CITY 2026 IS APPLYING FOR FUNDING FOR THOSE AS WELL. SO YEAH, THERE'S JUST A FEW STEPS ALONG THE WAY. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE STUDY. AND I, AND I LOVE THE, THE SWISS CHEESE ANALOGY. I LIKE THAT I LIKE THAT A LOT ON, ON SLIDE SIX, TOTAL FATAL CRASHES IS A CRASH IS A CRASH IS A CRASH. >> DIFFERENT KIND OF CRASHES. >> YOU'RE ASKING IF THIS IS WHOLESALE TOTAL CRASHES. >> THAT'S IS IT, IS IT? I MEAN, DO YOU JUST TAKE THE TOTAL OF WHERE, WHERE, WHERE A MOVING OBJECT HITS ANOTHER OBJECT AND SOMEBODY DIES? IS THAT A FATAL CRASH? >> YES, YES. >> IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY QUALIFICATION OF THAT? DO YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY DWI, FOR EXAMPLE, SPEEDING, FOR EXAMPLE, RUNNING RED LIGHTS, WHICH IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN MY MIND. >> CHAPTER THREE DIVES INTO A LOT OF THOSE SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT? SO THERE'S MAPS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO SPEED RELATED CRASHES, DISTRACTED DRIVING, [01:10:03] LIGHTING RELATED IMPAIRED DRIVING. SO IT DIVES INTO A LOT OF THOSE. SO THE PLAN DOES ACTUALLY DIVE INTO A LOT OF THOSE AS WELL. YES. AND IT DOES IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE FATALITIES ARE HAPPENING FOR EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTING FACTORS. >> SO I COULD SEE HOW ONE COULD MAKE THE SAFEST ROADWAY, THE BEST LIT ROADWAY IN THE WORLD THAT THERE IS. AND SOMEBODY STILL FIND A WAY TO CRASH AND DIE. YEAH, SURE. YES, YES. >> WELL, THAT'S ALSO WHERE SOME OF THE SAFER PEOPLE COMES IN, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIVE PILLARS. SAFER PEOPLE IS ONE OF THOSE PILLARS. SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY ACTIONS IN, IN THE PLAN THAT DESCRIBE HOW WE CAN ENCOURAGE THOSE SAFER BEHAVIORS IN PEOPLE. SOME EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS, IT COULD BE SOME INCENTIVES, SOME THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE STUDY. >> YES. >> YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR SOME OF THOSE EDUCATIONAL STATEWIDE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS THAT HAVE HELPED US, YOU KNOW, TO NOT LITTER AND, YOU KNOW, AND DON'T SPEED, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS OUT THERE WITH THE DPS COMES IN AND TELLS US THAT OUR, OUR TV, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS VERY HELPFUL. BUT FOR US TO DO THAT HERE IN DENTON, WE THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, WE LOVE TO BE ENGAGED. SO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE PRIORITIES. BEFORE YOU ALL HAD GOTTEN INTO IT, I WAS GOING TO NOTE THAT THE PRIORITIES FOR THE SAFE SCHOOLS. SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND BEING AROUND EVERY SCHOOL, AND YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THOSE SCHOOLS THAT WOULD NEED THAT KIND OF CARE. YES, CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE HAD THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT WAS A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT IF WE HAD MORE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE MINDFUL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CHANGE MINDSET OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I KNOW THAT THERE'S A RED LIGHT CAMERA SOMEWHERE, AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND STOP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GOT HIT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TRY TO RUN THE RED LIGHT, BUT IT HAPPENED. MAKING A RIGHT TURN. SO AND THEN I WAS MINDFUL AFTER THAT. SO AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY SAID, NO, WE WANT DON'T WANT RED LIGHT CAMERAS. AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS CAUSING PEOPLE TO HAVE THOSE REAR END COLLISIONS AND THAT KIND OF THING. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. JOE. >> SO. >> THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A STATEWIDE MANDATE TO REMOVE. >> YOU KNOW, SO STATEWIDE MANDATES. >> THE CITY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. >> OKAY. SO I WAS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT HADN'T BEEN TOO VERY LONG AGO. BUT THE IDEA OF POSSIBLY BRINGING THAT BACK ONTO THE TABLE WITH A CITY LIKE OURS BE LOOKED AT KIND OF STRANGELY. IF WE BROUGHT THAT BACK TO THE TABLE BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT, AS A, AS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HELP BEHAVIOR OF THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT UP UNDER THAT BEHAVIORAL HUMAN BEHAVIORAL FACTOR. YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATED THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. I KNOW I'M PROBABLY GOING TO GET STONED FOR THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, FOR ME, IT CHANGED MY BEHAVIOR. AND SO, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU CAN YOU ALL SPEAK TO THAT? >> SURE. YEAH. I WAS JUST GETTING REAL QUICKLY. SO UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE IT'S A STATE MANDATED PROHIBITION ON THEM, THAT'S IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO ACTUALLY ENACT ON THAT. IT'S MORE IF THE CITY SORT OF CREATES SOME SORT OF COALITION TO SUPPORT THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL AND CHANGE THAT LEGISLATION, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE. I THINK IF YOU WANTED TO ADD. OKAY, YOU GOT IT. >> YEAH. OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WE LEARNED SOMETHING. YES, SIR. >> FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT YOU SAID, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE BEST PART OF THE RED LIGHT CAMERA WAS NOT KNOWING WHERE THERE WAS ONE, BUT WONDERING IF THERE WAS ONE THERE. >> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S ONE ON BELL AND LOCUST HICKORY, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT GOLLY, MAYBE THERE'S ONE ON MULBERRY TOO, SO MAYBE I'D BETTER BE CAREFUL. ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. >> YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT WAS A THAT'S A SENTIMENT SHARED ACROSS A LOT OF COMMUNITIES. UNFORTUNATELY, THE. OVERWHELMING PERCEPTION OF PRIVACY INFRINGEMENT WAS A CONCERN AT THE STATE LEVEL, WHICH IS WHY THAT CHANGE WAS JUSTIFIED. BUT I DO SEE WHERE Y'ALL ARE COMING FROM. YES. >> OKAY. ANYTHING ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. >> I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THIS WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 19TH FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU'LL SEE THIS FOR ADOPTION ON YOUR MAY 19TH AGENDA. >> IF WE'RE STILL HERE, YOU'LL SEE IT FOR SURE. >> SOME MAY SEE IT, SOME. >> MAY NOT. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW, THOUGH. >> TO ADD CONTEXT. >> FOR ADOPTION FOR THE. >> THIS IS ALREADY ADOPTED, YES OR WHAT? [01:15:03] >> NO OFFICIAL COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE PLAN ITSELF. >> OH YEAH. OKAY, OKAY. >> THE ACTIONABLE ITEMS IN IN THE. OKAY. >> YEAH, YEAH. >> JUST A RESOLUTION OF ADOPTION. THE RESOLUTION. >> YES. >> WHICH ALSO HELPS US IN OUR FUTURE GRANT FUNDING. SO COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED IT FORMALLY APPRECIATE THAT. >> INITIALLY THAT THAT FISCAL YEAR 26 SS FOR A GRANT THAT WE'RE PREPARING WAS GOING TO BE FOCUSED JUST ON THE THREE PRIMARY CORRIDORS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY NCT COG. BUT IF THE CITY CHOOSES TO ADOPT THE PLAN THAT OPENS UP THE ENTIRE HIGH INJURY NETWORK FOR SYSTEMIC WIDE IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THAT GRANT REQUEST. SO THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF THE IMPETUS BEHIND COMING HERE TODAY. AND THEN AS WELL ON THE 19TH OF MAY FOR FOR ADOPTION. >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. >> YEAH, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. >> I LOVE LEARNING. AND THANK. >> YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION ON THE TASK FORCE. >> YEAH, YEAH, THAT WAS A VERY [D. MC26-013 Staff Memorandum Bronco Way Lighting 311 Stickers on Push Buttons Bike and Pedestrian Sidewalks for Denton Shopping Center Priority Locations for Bollards Public/Private Sidewalk & Bike Lane Mileage Breakdown DCTA TRiP Fund Allocation DCTA Route 4 Infrastructure Plan] INTERESTING. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE MC 26-013. STAFF MEMORANDUM. WE DID HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN THE BACK UP. BUT YOU KNOW FOR THE PEOPLE THEY MAY WANT TO KNOW SOME OF THESE THINGS. WE KNOW THOSE THINGS, BUT KIND OF FILL US IN ON WHAT'S GOING ON. BRONCO WAY LIGHTING. THAT'S THAT. >> THAT YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT OR THAT'S THAT'S ITEM ACTUALLY. >> YOU CAN TALK. >> YEAH. COME ON SETH. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SETH GARCIA, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO WE DID REACH OUT TO DME FOR THE BRONCO WAY LIGHTING. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE LIGHTING THAT'S INSTALLED ON OUR EXTENSION THAT'S GOING TOWARDS THE SERVICE ROAD. DME DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A PLANNED PROJECT FOR LIGHTING TO COME BACK TOWARDS BONNIE BRAE. THEY'RE GOING TO LIST IT INTO THEIR CIP PLAN, AND THEN IT WILL BE EVALUATED WITH ALL THE OTHER STREET LIGHTING PIECES AS THEY LOOK FOR FUTURE FUNDING. SO IN THE CIP, SO WE WE'VE MADE IT KNOWN THE REQUEST. AND SO THEY'LL JUST CONSIDER IT IN THE CIP. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE JUST PUT IT ON THE LIST. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PUT IT ON THE LIST. YES. >> THE FOR THE IN GENERAL, WHEN WE DO THESE THESE SIPS, DO WE NOT. I MEAN, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE LIGHTING WITH ROADWAY SECTIONS WHEN WE DO THEM. THAT'S PART OF THE GENERAL DESIGN. AND SO HOW, HOW ARE WE IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE HAVE AN UNLIT SEGMENT IS WHAT. I GUESS MY GENERAL QUESTION IS. >> YEAH. SO WE LOOKED AT IT BRIEFLY WITH SOME PLANNERS. SO WHEN THE CIVILS CAME THROUGH WITH THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS, THAT WAS DENTON HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN KING'S RIDGE, I BELIEVE. >> THAT KING'S RIDGE. >> TO THE TO THE NORTH. YEAH. KING'S RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT A PART OF WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO INSTALL THERE. AND SO ON BOTH SIDES, IT PREDATED WHAT DME WAS REQUIRING, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS IN 2020. AND SO THEY DID. WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED THROUGH ALL THEIR CIVILS I DID MYSELF, AND THERE WAS NO LIGHTING INCLUDED WITHIN THOSE SECTIONS. NOW, THAT HAS SINCE BEEN CORRECTED. AND AS PART OF OUR CRITERIA THAT THAT THE LIGHTING IS INSTALLED ON ALL THESE ROADWAYS. >> OKAY, SO THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. WHY I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IN MY ENTIRE TIME IN OFFICE, WE'VE HAD THAT LIGHTING REQUIREMENT. SO. ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> GO AHEAD. >> SO SO THIS IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF DME. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WHY? CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY? WHY AND IS THERE A WAY FOR CITIZENS TO SAY WE REALLY, REALLY WANT SOME LIGHTING IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL? LIKE HOW DO WHAT? HOW DO WE KNOW WHERE IT'S RANKING IN THE CIP PLAN OR A TIMELINE FOR IT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A QUESTION. >> THAT WOULD BE A DME QUESTION FROM THE LITTLE BIT. I KNOW THEY KEEP A LIST OF ALL THE REQUESTS THAT COME THROUGH. THEY GET A SMALL BUCKET OF MONEY WITHIN THEIR CIP ALLOCATION EVERY YEAR TO GO OUT AND INSTALL STREET LIGHTING THAT IS SEPARATE FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND AGAIN, THEY'LL GO THROUGH AND THEY'LL PRIORITIZE THOSE BASED ON SOME CRITERIA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SPECIFIC CRITERIA IS. AND THEN THEY UTILIZE THAT FUNDING EACH YEAR FOR FOR DIFFERENT STREET LIGHTING PROJECTS. >> HOW CAN WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS KIND OF IMPORTANT. >> YEAH, I THINK WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER FOLLOW UP WITH DME TO SEE WHERE THE OTHER STREET LIGHTING NEEDS ARE, AND GIVE AN ESTIMATED TIME FRAME OF WHEN THIS MIGHT FALL INTO IT, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH THAT INFORMATION. >> OKAY. AND IF CITIZENS WANT TO, I KNOW THERE IS A WAY TO REQUEST STREET LIGHTING THROUGH DENTON 311. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CITIZENS CAN DO IF THEY. NOW THAT THIS IS PUBLIC AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AREA, COULD THEY GO IN AND REQUEST IT THAT WAY? AT LEAST SOMEBODY IS AWARE THAT PEOPLE WANT IT OR. >> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE VERY [01:20:02] THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. COOL. YEAH. THANK YOU. >> I JUST HAVE TO GET IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SO BIKE, PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALKS ARE DENTON SHOPPING CENTER. THIS IS INTERESTING WHEN I THE STICKERS. NO, I'M SORRY, THE 311 STICKERS ON THE PUSH BUTTONS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER A PEDESTRIAN PUSHING PUSH BUTTONS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S INTERESTING TO. >> SEE THAT THIS IS FOR JUST TO COVER THOSE AREAS WHERE IF THE EQUIPMENT IS MALFUNCTIONING, THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO CITIZENS SO THAT THEY COULD INFORM. ALTHOUGH THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT DENTON 311 IS THERE. BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS WILL. STAFF FEELS THAT THIS WILL HELP. >> THEM BE VERY HELPFUL. ALL RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO GO ON. I MEAN HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING OR GOING TO BE GOING OR. OKAY. >> YEAH, IT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW. WE ARE INSTALLING THEM RIGHT NOW. AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS TEAM. FIELD TEAM IS DOING THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S A LOT OF BUTTONS. >> SO BUTTONS ARE. >> THERE LIKE PROBABLY. >> 5150 INTERSECTIONS TIME FOR SO ROUGHLY, I MEAN, BALLPARK IDEA. IT'S LIKE AROUND 600. >> OH, THAT'S STILL A LOT. BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALKS FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. YES, SIR. DOCTOR BIG. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT WE WE GENERALLY RELY ON REDEVELOPMENT IN ORDER TO PUSH, YOU KNOW, CHANGES. THAT SAID, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY A LACK OF PATH FROM ONE SIDE TO THE CENTER TO THE OTHER SAYING, WELL, AND THROWING UP OUR HANDS AND SAYING THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO IS FEELS LIKE AN UNSATISFYING RESPONSE. SO IN TERMS OF ACHIEVING VISION ZERO AND PATHING AND, AND OTHER LARGER GOALS IN TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, HOW DO WE GET AT THIS? I HEAR I SAW THE ANSWER. I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER. HOW, HOW, WHAT'S OUR PLAN B FOR NON-MOTORIZED ACCESS THROUGH THE REGION. >> SO IN THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE WE REACHED OUT TO TEXDOT AND THERE IS NOT MUCH RIGHT OF WAY OUT THERE FOR US TO BUILD. AND WE CONDUCTED FIELD AUDITS. AND IT CLEARLY SAYS USE CROSSING ON ALICE TO GO DOWN SOUTH SIDE AND THEN MERGE BACK ONTO THE OTHER SIDE. SO SORRY. THAT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS CONTROLLED ON TEXDOT SIDE, AND IT'S A LITTLE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION ON THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, WITH THE CONNECTIVITY FOR THE PEDESTRIANS. >> I GUESS. AND I'M GOING TO SPITBALL HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THESE ARE SENSIBLE, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN IMAGINE THINGS LIKE THE CITY COORDINATING WITH THE I FORGET THE NAME OF THE OWNERS OF DENTON CENTER NORTH, SOMETHING OR OTHER. AND TWO, PROVIDE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR PAINTING. THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF PEAS IN THAT. BUT WHERE THEY VOLUNTARILY STRIPE AND WE VOLUNTARILY FUND. I MEAN, I MADE THAT UP JUST NOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ACTUALLY IS DOABLE OR ANYTHING, BUT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO HAVING TEXDOT SAY, WELL, NO, THANK YOU. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. IT'S UNIVERSITY. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M DOING IS ENCOURAGING US TO NOT ACCEPT NO PATH AS AN ANSWER OR, OR A BYPASS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BACK OUT AS AN ANSWER, WHEN CLEARLY THERE COULD BE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. AND THIS IS YOUR AREA OF EXPERTISE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE JUMP ON AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO. BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M, I'M UNSATISFIED WITH, WELL, TEXT I AND THAT FEELS VERY UNSATISFYING. AND SO I'M ENCOURAGING US AS A BODY TO, TO COME UP WITH SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE. >> SO WE HAVE A PRIORITY LIST ON THE SIDEWALKS. WE COULD MAYBE BRING IT BACK WITH THE COST ESTIMATION, HOW MUCH IT WILL TAKE IF WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN BUILD IT WITH SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE SIDEWALKS OUT THERE, WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN THE NEXT MEETING. >> BUT YES, I HEAR THAT. AND THAT'S LONG TERM CITY PLANNING. SO AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT. AND I DON'T WANT TO PRECLUDE THAT. BUT IS THERE IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE WE APPLIED GRAVEL AND PATHING FOR AN EMERGENCY PURPOSE ALONG MCKINNEY BECAUSE WE HAD AN EMERGENCY NEED. IF AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NECESSARILY AN EMERGENCY NEED, BUT IS THERE A LOW. IS THERE A HIGH, HIGH [01:25:03] IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTABLE SOMETHING LIKE MY, MY, MY POTENTIALLY FOOLISH IDEA OF PAINT STRIPING? YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A GREEN STRIPE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND WE SAID, HEY, DENTON SAID, WE'LL PAY FOR THAT. AND IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, TWO GRAND OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST, BUT WOULD I MEAN, IS THAT THE KIND OF THING OR IS, IS THERE BARRIERS TO THAT SORT OF THING? AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S A SOLUTION. I'M GIVING AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPE OF A QUICK TO IMPLEMENT CHEAP SOLUTION THAT PROVIDES A TEMPORARY SOLUTION UNTIL WE CAN DO A LONGER TERM CIP, BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE ISN'T REALLY FEASIBLE EITHER. SO I'M JUST GOING TO MOSTLY LAY THAT ON THE TABLE AS AS CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE THINKING. SURE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> CHAIR. >> YES, MA'AM. >> I SO AND WE'LL GET TO THIS. I THINK THIS IS ON THE MATRIX TO BE REMOVED. SO I, I DON'T WANT IT TO I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BIKES AND PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALKS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT, WHY THIS SECTION IS NOT WHY IT WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO AND IT'S ALWAYS BOGGLED MY MIND. I, I THINK THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REQUEST IT, BUT WE TO THERE'S JUST A LOT HAPPENING RIGHT THERE. THE NUMBER OF. WE COULD FIND OUT HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE OVER THERE, HOW DENSE THE POPULATION IS. IN A MINUTE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ROUTE FOUR. THERE'S PROPOSED LIKE FOUR MORE BUS STOPS ALONG THIS AREA. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE PUT IN BUS STOPS AND THERE'S ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET AND THERE'S LITERALLY NO SIDEWALK, I DON'T. SO WE COULD KIND OF COMBINE IT FEELS LIKE WE COULD MAYBE COMBINE A COUPLE OF THESE ISSUES. THIS, THIS TO ME IS PRETTY BIG. AND I AGREE IT WOULD BE COOL TO KNOW LIKE A SHORT TERM, INEXPENSIVE IDEA. PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS LOOP IN VOLUNTEERS TO DO THE PAINTING. IF WE NEED TO LOOP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR SOMEBODY TO GET INVOLVED, AND THEN A FULL BLOWN BUILD OUT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ALL OF THE WHEN WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS DONE BY TXDOT, THEY WENT AND BURIED ALL OF THE LINES THAT WERE UP IN THIS IN THE AIR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, IF THEY'RE PHONE LINES OR UTILITIES, EXCEPT FOR THIS SECTION. SO I REMEMBER WHEN THIS CONSTRUCTION WAS HAPPENING, I USED TO COMMUTE TO FRISCO AND I WOULD BE LIKE, WOW, LOOK, ALL OF THE LINES ARE GONE EXCEPT THIS SECTION. AND I AM GUESSING THAT THAT IS THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN GO IN AND TEAR EVERYTHING UP AGAIN AND BURY IT JUST TO PUT IN A SIDEWALK. I DON'T, SO I'M CURIOUS, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF SOME OPTIONS THERE WOULD BE GREAT. >> OKAY, WELL, I'M REALLY APPRECIATING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING OF CONCERN. OKAY, WE'RE HEARING IT FROM ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE. SHE'S NOT ON THE COUNCIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SHE'S THE PEOPLE. AND SO IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. AND SHE'S VERY COGNIZANT OF EVERYTHING THAT SHE'S SAYING HERE. AND I WOULD CERTAINLY. AND ALSO, DOCTOR BECK, YOU KNOW, HE GOES INTO HIGH LEVEL SPEED. BUT WE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. SURE. MISS JANE, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS CONVERSATION WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT AREA AND THAT. YEAH. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD GET CONCERNED ABOUT WITH STRIPING IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF WHERE THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS ARE, BECAUSE IF YOU GET A STRIPE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS AN ENTRANCE OR EXIT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THERE IN FRONT OF CARS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO THIS IS A DANGEROUS AREA. >> HOLD ON. LET'S LET HER SPEAK. >> AND I'M SURE I'M SURE THINGS CAN BE DONE, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF HOW WE DO IT AND WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE THIS IS A HIGHLY TRAVERSED AREA WITH PEOPLE ON BIKES AND WALKERS. I'M SURE THE BUSINESS ARE SAYING, WELL, WE GOT THIS WIDE SIDEWALK RIGHT IN FRONT OF ALL OF OUR STORES. YOU GUYS CAN WALK THERE ALL YOU WANT, BUT IT'S NOT CONVENIENT. >> IT'S OUT OF. >> THE STREET. YEAH, THEY WANT PEOPLE WANT TO WALK RIGHT ALONG THE STREET WHERE THEY ARE. SO I'M JUST THINKING, I, I LIKE, I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF STRIPING. WE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL OF HOW WE DO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW WHEN YOU GET TO THAT ENTRANCE OR EXIT, THERE'S GOT TO BE A STOP SIGN THERE OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS, WATCH OUT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THING I WOULD GET CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN YOU REALLY HAVE A [01:30:02] SIDEWALK. SO YOU HAVE A CURB. PEOPLE KIND OF KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, I NEED TO STOP HERE AND LOOK, THE CURB TELLS YOU THAT. >> IT TELLS. >> YOU PEOPLE, YOU KNOW. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF A THOUGHT I HAD. >> THANK YOU. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY APPRECIATING MISS JANE SPEAKING BECAUSE SHE HARDLY EVER SAYS ANYTHING, SO THERE HAS TO BE. I KNOW SHE'S THINKING A LOT OF THINGS. I KNOW, I KNOW, THIS IS MY FRIEND. SHE'S THINKING A LOT OF THINGS SO I CAN HEAR THE PASSION, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE TWO DIFFERENT. WELL, THE SAME WITH ENHANCEMENTS AND WHATNOT OF THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON. >> THAT OBSERVATION IS SOMETHING I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE. SO ALONG UNIVERSITY DRIVE, THERE ARE MANY, MANY DRIVEWAYS AND AND REALLY NONE OF THEM HAVE CROSSWALK MARKINGS. IN FACT, I JUST GOT A NOTIFICATION THAT SOMEONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CROSSING NEAR WENDY'S AND CROSSING THAT DRIVEWAY AND WAS HIT BY A VEHICLE AND BROKE HIS LEG. AND SO PEOPLE ARE REACHING OUT TO ME SAYING, WHAT SHOULD I DO? AND SO I'M GIVING THEM THE INFORMATION TO MAKE A REPORT TO, TO TALK, TALK TO THE CITY AND TO TEXDOT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CROSSWALKS ACROSS ANY OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS. AND I THINK AGAIN, LIKE, LIKE JANE SAID, THAT DOES HELP DRIVERS LOOK OUT AND JUST BE LIKE, OH, PEOPLE ARE WALKING ON A SIDEWALK RIGHT HERE. SO BEFORE I TURN INTO WENDY'S OR ANY OF THESE OTHER DRIVEWAYS, I NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND BE MINDFUL. SO IF WE CAN LOOK INTO THE CROSSWALK STRIPING ON ANY OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS, LIKE BECAUSE THAT'S CONSISTENT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, I'VE NOTICED THAT, BUT IT'S NOT IN THIS AREA. OKAY. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO YOU ALL HAVE HEARD US SPEAK. >> YES. >> YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO THAT? >> SO ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, WE WILL EXPLORE A COUPLE OF OTHER OPTIONS, WHICH IS SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS, BIKES AND ALL THE REGULATIONS. AND SO WE'LL REPORT BACK IN THE FOLLOWING MONTH. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ONE IS ABOUT THE BOLLARDS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING BOLLARDS. >> I APPRECIATE THE FOCUS ON BOLLARDS. THAT RESPONSE WAS I. I LOVE THE INTENTIONALITY AND. >> ALL RIGHT. AND THEN SIDEWALK BIKE LANE MILEAGE BREAKDOWN. WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT THAT DC H T TRIP FUND ALLOCATION. THE WOULD YOU ALL GIVE US DID YOU I KNEW YEAH. OKAY. DOCTOR. YES. OKAY. >> I JUST I THINK I UNDERSTAND I APPRECIATE THE THE THE CLARITY. I GUESS I WANT TO ASK AND TO TEST MY UNDERSTANDING. SO IT SEEMS LIKE HIGHLAND VILLAGE IS ABLE TO GET TRIP FUNDS IN ORDER TO AUGMENT THEIR GO ZONE USAGE. AND THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR OR NOT SIMILAR, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE APPLICATION FOR THEM FOR TRIP FUNDS COMPARED TO LIKE WE MIGHT ASK FOR ROADWAY SEGMENTS OR SIDEWAYS SEGMENTS OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE FOR OUR LOCAL NEEDS IS AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT? >> YES. I THINK IN ADDITION TO GO ZONES, BUT ANY OTHER MOBILITY ON DEMAND SERVICE THAT THEY MAY HAVE. >> IN ANY OTHER MICROMOBILITY? BECAUSE WHY? BECAUSE IT GETS THEM TO THE TRAIN STATION. >> YES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A TRANSIT SERVICE, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. SO ANYTHING THAT COULD LINK THEM TO A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OR PROVIDE EASY ACCESS WOULD BE COVERED. >> OKAY. I SEE A LOT OF, OF PUSHING MONEY INTO PRIVATE FACILITIES IN OTHER CITIES, BUT THOSE OTHER CITIES ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE MANAGE. SO I'LL, I'LL JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ROOT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. ANY QUESTIONS ANY COMMENTS ANY CONCERNS. DOCTOR BECK YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT. NO I KNEW. I KNEW. >> ABOUT THAT. SO THERE'S NO COMPLAINTS. >> FOUND YOU GOOD. OH THAT'S A BIG ONE. I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE LACK OF CROSSOVER FROM ALL OF THE ROUTES CROSSING OVER. I KNOW IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BIG MESS NOW THAT I LOOK AT IT. BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT ROUTE THREE, TRYING TO GET OVER TO ROUTE TWO. SO I GOT TO TAKE ROUTE. I'M SORRY, ROUTE THREE GOING OVER TO THE RED ROUTE, GOING TO THE BLUE ROUTE. I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. ROUTE FOUR. IS YOU HAVE TO GET OFF AND GET ON. AND INSTEAD OF ALL OF THEM KIND OF MEETING AT A SPACE WHERE ALL [01:35:01] OF THEM CROSS EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. AM I FANTASIZING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM OF THAT MODALITY? >> A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS GO TO ROUTE PLANNING. SOME OF THEM ARE REVENUE, REVENUE, MILES AND BOARDINGS. AND SO WE COULD ASK THIS QUESTION TO DCTA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A REP ON OUR COUNCIL. IS THAT DOCTOR SUZI. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> YES, MAYOR PRO TEM IS ON THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET YOU ALL TO GET THAT OVER TO DC TO FOR US. ANYBODY ELSE. >> OH YEAH. AND OUR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES STAFF MEETS WITH THEM. YES. EVERY YEAR. >> WE MEET WITH THEM. >> WE CAN MENTION THAT YOU HAD THAT CONCERN. >> YEAH. I MEAN IT'S. >> A AND I'M SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE ALREADY COGNIZANT OF. BUT WE CAN JUST MENTION THAT YOU HAD A CONCERN. >> ABOUT IT IS IF I'M ON THREE AND I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE TWO, AND MAYBE THERE'S A A COLLECTIVE LOCATION FOR ME TO HAVE TO DO THAT WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO GET ON ONE TO GET OVER TO TWO, BECAUSE I'M ON FOUR. AND, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS SIMPLE ENOUGH, I THINK, BUT WE'LL SEE. YES, MA'AM. >> THIS IS EXCITING. I'M CURIOUS IF STAFF OR HOW WE HOW WE CAN DETERMINE MAYBE BEFORE THE OR AS THIS ROUTE AND THE OTHER ROUTES COME BACK ONLINE. IF WE HAVE APPROPRIATE. SAFE CROSSING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET TO THOSE BUS STOPS LIKE, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE THE CROSSWALKS OR PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS. AND THEN ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME NEW OR MODIFIED STOPS, THE EXISTING STOPS. I KNOW ALONG UNIVERSITY, THERE ARE NO MORE COVERED COVERED STOPS. SO I GUESS FOR ANY OF THE PROPOSED STOPS, WHAT ARE WE PROVIDING? >> SO DCTA IS GOING THROUGH A PERMITTING PROCESS FOR EACH STOP. THEY WILL GO THROUGH THAT. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE THROUGH OUR BIWEEKLY MEETINGS. WE ARE IN TOUCH WITH DCTA STAFF AND WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY DISCUSSING THESE IMPROVEMENT POSSIBILITIES. AND TRIP FUNDS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE WE UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS FOR DC DCTA SERVICE ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS. >> AND THE TRIP FUNDS THAT WERE PRESENTED LAST WEEK THAT WENT ALONG. I FORGOT WHAT THAT ROAD WAS. WOODROW. >> YES. >> DID IS THAT IS THAT FOR SURE THE PROJECT THAT THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD ON? >> YES, WE HAVE SUBMITTED THAT AS A DCTA APPLICATION TRIP APPLICATION FOR 2026. >> OKAY, GREAT. >> OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY. >> AND I THINK THE LAST THING THAT WE SEE THE MATRIX, DO WE PULL THAT UP ON THE SCREEN SO WE CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S IN AND WHAT'S GOING OKAY. SO THERE'S OUR FUTURE ITEMS MATRIX. JOE, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE SEE? WE HAVE THE DO A MOTION TO FOR APPROVAL OF WHAT WE SEE OR DID WE GET OUT OF THAT BUSINESS? OKAY. I REMEMBER US HAVING THAT CONVERSATION. ALL RIGHT. WELL, ARE WE GOING TO ADD ANYTHING FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE UP THERE. YES, MA'AM. >> MISS PENNY, I'D LIKE US TO NOT REMOVE THE BRONCO LIGHTING SINCE WE ARE WANTING TO CONTINUE TO TO HEAR FROM DME AND FIND OUT IF WE CAN PRIORITIZE THAT, SINCE IT'S NEAR A SCHOOL. >> I HAVE A QUESTION TO THAT ALSO. OR I GUESS A CLARIFICATION. WE CAN SAY YES TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE PORTAL TO BE DONE. IT'S ON THE LIST. IN OTHER WORDS. SO I THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SAYING YES TO REMOVAL BECAUSE NOW IT'S ALREADY ON THE LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE. YOU'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE PRIORITY A BIT EARLIER. >> COULD WE COULD WE ADD WE YOU WERE SAYING MAYBE COULD DME COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT HOW THEY PRIORITIZE IT, AND THEN MAYBE WE ADD THAT AS A SEPARATE THING OR KEEP IT? >> I THINK WE COULD. I THINK WE LEAVE THIS AND THE DENTON SHOPPING CENTER, SINCE THOSE TWO HAD FOLLOW UP ITEMS, THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND GIVE ANOTHER UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> ALL RIGHT. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? >> I'M OKAY. >> YES. OKAY. SO IT STAYS. SO THOSE ARE GOING TO STAY. ANYTHING ELSE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. [01:40:02] >> IS THIS YOUR FINAL. >> FOR CONCLUDING ITEMS? YES IT IS. IT'S MY FINAL. SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE LEARNED. DOCTOR BUDDS, YOU AND YOUR TEAM, YOUR TRANSPORTATION TEAM, YOU KNOW, LETTING US AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAY WHAT WE NEED TO SAY. YOU ALWAYS HAVE A SMILE ON YOUR FACE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING BY THE TIME WE LEAVE HERE, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR WORK. YEAH. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR ME PERSONALLY. >> HOW MANY YEARS WERE YOU ON THIS COMMITTEE? >> I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE FOR FIVE FULL YEARS, JOE, AND I KNOW JOE KNOW. THANK YOU. AND I, FIVE FULL YEARS, FIVE YEARS. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE THAT LIST THAT WE WOULD GET FROM DOCTOR JOHN. POLLSTER. THAT THING USED TO BE THAT LONG. AND NOW AFTER FIVE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN SEEING IT. AND THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET SMALLER BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS FINDING US FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT OURSELVES. BUT THE IDEA OF JUST SEEING THE WORK OUT THERE, ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN HERE AND ON THE COUNCIL, WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT OUT THERE. NOW I CAN SEE WHAT I'VE BEEN VOTING ON ALL OF THESE YEARS. AND SO HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING IS THAT WE CAN SAY YES TO WE DO, AS LONG AS IT'S FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE CITIZENS LIKE YOU THAT DON'T MIND ASKING THE HARD QUESTIONS. THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO TO DO. WE HAVE 80 VACANCIES ON OUR COMMITTEES IN THIS COMMUNITY AS TOO MANY VACANCIES. AND SO WE HAVE TO RELY ON PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING AND ASKING THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS. WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING. WE'RE CITIZENS LIKE YOU. WE JUST HERE TO, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO OUR BEST. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO LEAVE MY LEGACY ON IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE A SPACE TO SPEAK. >> NOW, I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR. I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR. I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY COUNCIL BERG IS IS ROTATING OFF AND HER NEXT INCARNATION OF WHEREVER THAT TAKES HER. AND, AND I APPRECIATE HER LEADERSHIP OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SHE THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN VERY INVITING AND OPEN, AND WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF TURNOVER OF COUNCILORS AND CITIZENS, AND I'VE WORKED WITH HER AS VICE CHAIR FOR, FOR A WHILE NOW, AND I WANTED TO COMMEND HER. I WANT TO COMMEND STAFF. YEAH, I WANT TO COMMEND THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE. IF JOHN HAD STAYED, I WOULD HAVE COMMENDED HIM, NOT HIS SON, BECAUSE HE'S BRAND NEW. >> YEAH. NO, BUT. >> REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE BACK IN MAY. WE'LL SEE. YEP. BUT IF NOT, I APPRECIATE ALL OF STAFF'S TIME, ENERGY AND EFFORTS ON THESE MOBILITY ISSUES AND THE FORWARD THINKING AND THE FOCUS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAID THAT IN PUBLIC, ON CAMERA BEFORE, SO THAT YOU COULD ALL LOOK BACK ON IT AND SAY, OH, BECK WASN'T SO TERRIBLE, JUST IN CASE THINGS DON'T GO MY WAY HERE THIS WEEKEND. SO THAT'S TRUE ANYWAY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE CERTAINLY DO ALSO WANT TO MISS JANE. THANK YOU. WE CERTAINLY DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE COMMUNITY TO. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT IT'S OUR TURN. WE'RE GROWING. WE'RE LIKE A LITTLE WEED HERE NOW, EVERYBODY. AND WE'RE THE COOL KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE AND BE HERE. BUT WE HAVE GOT TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. SO WE THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR FINDING YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR GRACE WITH OUR STAFF. THESE PEOPLE ARE PROFESSIONALS. AND WE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN A HAPPY PLACE, TOO. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MEAN COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE, THEN WE WILL END THIS MEETING. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I DON'T WANT TO FORGET YOU. I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT YOU ARE. SO WE'LL END THIS MEETING AT 1 * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.