[WORK SESSION BEGINS AT 4:00 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION ROOM]
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          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY'S DATE TUESDAY, MAY 5TH, 2026. IT IS 4:02 P.M. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IN PERSON. LET'S SEE. NO. HERE WE GO. CITIZEN COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. AND 
          [2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda for public hearing and individual consideration.]
HAVING NONE TAKES US TO REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION. AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ANY CLARIFICATION ON AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I'LL NOTE THAT ITEMS. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE PULLED AND. IS THERE ANYONE THAT NEEDS. LET ME DO THIS IN ORDER. ITEMS ARE PULLED. IT WILL BE E, F, AND O. NO PRESENTATIONS, JUST SEPARATE VOTE AND THAT'S EFO. NO M WAS NOT BEING PULLED. SO THAT'S THAT. THEN BEFORE WE GO INTO THE FIRST WORK SESSION, DO NEED CLARIFICATION. WE HAVE PLACEHOLDERS FOR A CLOSED SESSION. I DO WANT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR ITEM A IN THE CLOSED SESSION PORTION OF AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT THE BETTER SAID LET ME SEE. YES. IS THERE ANYONE NEEDS TALKS ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE APPOINT APPOINTMENT IN CLOSED. OKAY THEN WE WON'T USE THAT ONE. THAT'S JUST A PLACEHOLDER. WE 
          [A. ID 26-0590 Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the City’s 311 Operation.
          [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]
WON'T USE THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. TAKES US TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEM ITEM THREE A I'D 260590 RECEIVE REPORT. WHOLE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY'S 311 OPERATIONS. 
          >> WELL, I WILL TELL YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M SHEILA GRAHAM, THE DENTON 311 OPERATIONS MANAGER. SO WHAT IS DENTON 311. WHAT IS DENTON 311. AND WHO ARE WE? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THERE'S A PHOTO OF MY TEAM HERE. A COUPLE OF US WERE MISSING, BUT THERE ARE 810 OF US ON THE TEAM. AND WE ARE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT FOR NON-EMERGENCY CITY SERVICES. WE ENHANCE QUALITY OF LIFE, WE INCREASE CITY EFFICIENCIES, AND WE PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH EASY ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES AND A LIVE PERSON 365 DAYS A YEAR, 24 OVER SEVEN. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TIMELINE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT DENTON 311 WENT LIVE WITH COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT SERVICES IN MARCH OF 2024. THAT WAS ABOUT 50 TO 100 CALLS A MONTH THAT WE BEGAN TAKING FOR COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT SERVICES. AUGUST 2024, WE BEGAN TAKING 8200 CALLS AND 8200 PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN THE CITY SWITCHBOARD. SO IF YOU CALLED AND YOU WANTED A GENERAL NUMBER FOR THE CITY, IT WAS 8200. SO WHEN WE BEGAN TAKING THOSE CALLS IN AUGUST OF 2024, THAT WAS REALLY OUR FIRST EXPERIENCE SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC DIRECTLY. NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CALL, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THEY'RE WALKING THEIR DOG IN THE MORNING, EVERY MORNING, AND THEY CALL AND THEY LET US KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY. THE 3113 DIGIT DIALING WAS AVAILABLE ON NATIONAL 311 DAY, WHICH WAS MARCH 11TH, 2025. WE BEGAN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN IN SPRING OF 2025, AND WE WENT LIVE WITH THE REST OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS OR THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WE SERVICE ON IN APRIL OF 2025. SO WE'VE BEEN LIVE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. SO THESE ARE OUR SERVICE PARTNERS, SOME OF OUR SERVICE PARTNERS. WE ARE LIVE WITH 16 CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND WE PROVIDE A CONVENIENT WAY FOR RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE HELP WITH CITY SERVICES. 
          SO HERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, WE PROVIDE RELIABLE SERVICE 24 OVER SEVEN. WE BELIEVE THAT EMAILS AND VOICEMAILS GET LOST AND TICKETS GET ANSWERED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE INFORMATION ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SERVICE REQUESTS THAT WERE CREATED BY MY AGENTS, THE SERVICE REQUESTS THAT ARE CREATED VIA SELF-HELP CHANNELS SUCH AS THE MOBILE APP AND ON THE WEB. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE INFO ONLY INFO ONLY ARE CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE THAT ARE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A DIRECT CITY SERVICE, RIGHT? MAYBE THEY'RE CALLING AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE RENEWED AT, OR THEY'RE CALLING AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE TO GET THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR THEIR 
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MARRIAGE LICENSE. THOSE ARE THOSE INFO CALLS FOR SECURITY MONITORING. YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT DENTON 311 MONITORS THE CITYWIDE SECURITY CAMERAS. AND WE ALSO ARE VERY PROUD OF THIS. THIS LAST STAT ON THE LEFT SIDE, THE REQUEST CLOSED ON TIME BACK IN APRIL OF 2025. 
          CITY DEPARTMENTS WERE CLOSING 51% OF THE SERVICE REQUESTS ON TIME. AS OF LAST MONTH, IT WAS 85% OF THOSE SERVICE REQUESTS WERE CLOSED ON TIME. AND ACTUALLY FOR APRIL, IT WAS 88%. 
          SO WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB CLOSING THE SERVICE REQUESTS AND RESPONDING TO THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE, TOP 11 REQUESTS. AND I DECIDED TO PUT THE 11 REQUESTS HERE BECAUSE OF NUMBER TEN, WHICH IS OTHER BACK IN THE DENTON ENGAGE DENTON DAYS, THE OTHER SERVICE REQUEST TYPE WAS IN THE TOP FOUR. AND NOW IT'S NUMBER TEN. AND THESE 11 SERVICE REQUEST TYPES MAKE UP 41% OF OUR TOTAL SERVICE REQUESTS. BUT THE OTHER SERVICE REQUEST TYPE BEING NUMBER TEN, MEANS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING BETTER SERVICE. WE ARE LETTING CITIZENS KNOW THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU CAN REPORT. THIS IS HOW YOU REPORT THEM AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING OTHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES. SO WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. OKAY, SO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE THAT DENTON 31 IS AVAILABLE AND WHAT SERVICES WE OFFER. YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THE PHOTOS WE GO TO THE REC CENTERS, WE GO TO THE LIBRARIES AND GIVE OUT INFORMATION. WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY ADVERTISING ON SOME CITY VEHICLES, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS LIKE OFFERING POST, SURVEY, POST SERVICE REQUEST SURVEYS, SO PEOPLE CAN LET US KNOW HOW 
          WE'RE DOING. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF 
          REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE AND THEN TWO. >> OH, OKAY. 
          >> MAYBE I DIDN'T GIVE HIM ENOUGH TIME. THIS IS SO INTERESTING. AND ON THE KIND OF FUNNY SIDE OF THIS, LET'S LOOK AT THE THE SILVER LINING OF ALL OF THIS. IT REMINDS ME OF THE FACT THAT DIDN'T IS PROBABLY A GOOD ONE. BIG HOA THAT WE ARE REALLY BEING MINDFUL OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND NOW WHEN PEOPLE DO GO ON THEIR DOG WALKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE WATCHING OUT FOR EACH OTHER. YES. AND I LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. DID I UNDERSTAND THAT? DID YOU DID I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE ENGAGED 
          IN. >> CORRECT. IT'S DIDN'T. SO THE APP IS DENTON 311. 
          >> OKAY. SO ENGAGING BECAUSE SOMETIMES I'LL TELL THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GO ON ENGAGE IN. SO 
          NO MORE ENGAGED IN. >> YES. >> WE STILL DO HAVE DISCUSSED DIDN'T IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE STILL HAVE DISCUSSED IN. AND THEN WE HAVE 311. ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT CLOSED ON TIME. YES. WHEN YOU SAY CLOSED ON TIME, CAN YOU BE A BIT MORE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IF I, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING IN AND THEN IT COMES UP CLOSED. BUT I STILL SEE THE ISSUE. 
          >> YES. >> OKAY. >> SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO CLOSED ON TIME MEANS THAT WE HAVE THE SERVICE REQUESTS. MOST OF THEM HAVE BETWEEN A ONE AND A SEVEN DAY SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT. SO THE DEPARTMENTS ARE EXPECTED TO CLOSE THEM WITHIN THAT 1 TO 7 DAYS. NOW THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS RIGHT. HIGH WEEDS, WHICH IS OUR SECOND MOST POPULAR SERVICE REQUEST TYPE. FOR EXAMPLE. IT DOES SOMETIMES GO BEYOND THOSE SEVEN DAYS BECAUSE A PERSON IS GIVEN SEVEN DAYS TO ABATE THAT. RIGHT. SO IF YOU CALL IN ON A MONDAY, WE GET OUT THERE ON TUESDAY, THEN THEY'RE GIVEN SEVEN DAYS TO CUT THEIR GRASS. OKAY. RIGHT. 
          SO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS MIGHT GO PAST THAT THREE DAYS OR WHAT YOUR EXPECTATION IS. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS MY DEPARTMENT IS DOING IS WE ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE. WHEN YOU CALL ABOUT A CODE REQUEST, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL TELL YOU, WELL, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN DAYS. THEY'RE GOING TO GET OUT THERE WITHIN THREE. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE PERSON TIME TO CUT THEIR GRASS. ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS IF YOU CALL FOR A NEW STREET LIGHT OR A NEW SIGNAL TRAFFIC SIGNAL, THOSE THINGS TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BORE INTO UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THOSE ARE GOING TO TAKE MORE TIME. BUT MAJORITY OF THE SERVICE REQUESTS ARE CLOSED WITHIN 1 TO 7 DAYS, WHICH IS THE SERVICE 
          LEVEL AGREEMENT FOR THE DEPARTMENTS. >> OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING 
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SAID, ARE WE GOING TO IF YOU HAVE TO GO AND FOLLOW UP? I MEAN, EACH DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FOLLOWING UP, YOU KNOW, TO CLOSE IT OUT. IS THAT GOING TO PUT A STRAIN ON BECAUSE WE'RE EXPECTING MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE NOW, MORE PEOPLE ARE BECOMING MORE EDUCATED. YOU ALL WANT US TO CALL IN, RIGHT? SO THAT'S SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT PUT UP AN HR STRAIN ON US. IF IF YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING MORE CALLS, YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY KIND OF OUTLOOK ON ON HOW MANY MORE? I MEAN, IS THERE A OUTLOOK ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE EXPECTING? SO WE MIGHT WANT TO BUDGET FOR SOMETHING, SOME MORE EMPLOYEES 
          OR HOW DOES THAT KIND OF THING WORK? >> SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I CAN'T ANSWER IT DIRECTLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ARE WHEN WE GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE PUSHING DOWNLOAD THE APP, DOWNLOAD THE APP. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE SELF-HELP IS OUTPACING CALLS. AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT TREND BECAUSE WE WOULD RATHER PEOPLE USE THE APP. IF WE GET THE MORE CALLS, THEN THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, 
          RIGHT? AS FAR AS STAFFING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> OKAY. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE TWO. >> COME ON. 
          >> I'M JUST RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN WHISPER IT TO. >> THE VIDEO. THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE A SOUL APPARENTLY TODAY. OH, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          FIRST THE ACCOLADES. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND GENERALLY THEY, THEY, THEY LIKE ENGAGEMENT AND THEY LIKE THREE ONE, ONE. THE ONE THING THAT I'VE HEARD, AND SO I WANT TO PICK YOUR BRAIN ABOUT GET A LITTLE MORE KNOWLEDGE IS THE CONCEPT THAT COUNCILOR BYRD BROUGHT UP. AND THAT IS HOW DO WE DO TICKET CLOSURES AND ASSIGNMENTS? SO WHEN WHEN YOU ASSIGN THIS TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, YOU RECEIVE A TICKET OR DO YOU GENERATE YOU A TICKET OR IT GOES IN THROUGH SELF-HELP AND HOW IS IT IT'S TRANSFERRED TO A DEPARTMENT AND THEN IT'S MARKED CLOSED OR IT'S NOT MARKED CLOSED UNTIL THE DEPARTMENT 
          MARKS IT CLOSED. >> SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND THE SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY WHEN YOU HIT SUBMIT EITHER ON THE APP OR THE WEBSITE, OR IF YOU CALL 311 AS SOON AS SUBMIT IS HIT, IT GOES AUTOMATICALLY TO THE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? SO AS SOON AS YOU HIT SUBMIT, IT GOES TO COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT OR WHEREVER IT NEEDS TO GO. NOW, BEST CASE SCENARIO, AND I WILL ADMIT SOME DEPARTMENTS DO BETTER THAN OTHERS. SOME DEPARTMENTS LEAVE IT OPEN UNTIL IT'S COMPLETELY DONE RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT NEW SIGNAL LIGHT, THAT SERVICE REQUEST MIGHT BE OPEN FOR A MONTH BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GO OUT AND DO THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. SOME DEPARTMENTS DO CLOSE THEM IMMEDIATELY AND PUT THEM IN THEIR OWN WORK ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO WE ARE GOING WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT, RIGHT. AND WE ARE ASKING THEM TO PUT NOTES IN THE SYSTEM. SOME DEPARTMENTS DO THAT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU PUT IN YOUR SERVICE REQUEST. WE'VE CLOSED THE SERVICE REQUEST FOR 311, BUT WE ARE STILL WORKING IT IN OUR OWN CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS MORE COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITIZENS. SO THEY KNOW THAT MAYBE YOUR SERVICE REQUEST IS GOING TO TAKE 30 DAYS. AND THIS IS WHY. SO WE ARE WORKING ON BETTER 
          COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS NOW. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK YOU DRILLED DOWN TO THE HEART OF THE IT'S NOT ANGER, IT'S FRUSTRATION, BECAUSE FOR THE SAME REASON THAT COUNCILOR BYRD BROUGHT BROUGHT IT UP CLOSED, I THINK HAS HAS A MORE COLLOQUIAL, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING AND AND IN THE TICKET BUSINESS, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT IT'S IT'S IT'S JUST MORE THE WAY TICKETS WORK. BUT IF WE COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT DESCRIPTOR EITHER LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, OF WHEN IT'S CLOSED, BUT IT'S IN PROCESS, HAVE SOME OTHER DESCRIPTION THAT GETS BACK TO THE FEEDBACK SUCH THAT CLOSED REALLY DOES MEAN. CLOSED CLOSED, AND THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER WAY OF DESCRIBING THAT WHEN IT'S SIMPLY TRANSFERRED INTO A DEPARTMENT SYSTEM. THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO ALLEVIATING THE FRUSTRATION OF, 
          OF CONSTITUENTS. >> AND I LIKE THAT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON IN THE 
          SYSTEM. >> THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> WHERE DID I THERE. >> I'VE HEARD SO. >> MANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT 311 I'M REAL I'M REAL PLEASED THAT IT'S THAT IT'S UP AND RUNNING AND PERFORMING SO WELL. WHAT ABOUT REQUESTS THAT ARE JUST OFF THE WALL? DO YOU GET DO YOU GET THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MY COFFEE WAS TOO HOT OR MY YARD GUY SCALPED MY GRASS OR THINGS LIKE THIS? 
          >> YES. >> YEAH. >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YES WE DO. AND THAT REALLY FALLS UNDER THAT INFO. ONLY A LOT OF THEM ARE INFO ONLY. THOSE ARE 
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THAT'S WHERE WE TALK TO SOMEONE AND WE EXPLAIN TO THEM, OKAY, WELL, THIS ISN'T THE PLACE TO REPORT THAT SOMETIMES WE DO GET EMAILS AND, AND WE TRY TO, WE DO TRY TO GET YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO, RIGHT? IF, IF YOU NEED TO CALL THE CITY OF SANGER, WE TELL YOU THAT WE WILL GIVE YOU THE NUMBER FOR THE CITY OF SANGER IF YOU NEED TO. YOU KNOW, WE DO WORK THROUGH THOSE AS 
          BEST WE CAN. >> HOW MANY OPERATORS IS THAT THE RIGHT TERM? SURE. HOW MANY 
          HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? >> EIGHT. >> AND TELL ME, TELL ME WHAT 
          THE SHIFT LOOKS LIKE. >> SO WE WORK A MODIFIED DUPONT SCHEDULE. SO THEY WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, DON'T DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT IT'S LIKE FOUR DAYS ON AND THREE DAYS OFF. AND THEN I WORK DAYS FOR FOUR DAYS AND THEN I'M OFF FOR TWO DAYS, AND THEN I WORK NIGHTS FOR THREE DAYS. SO IT'S A MODIFIED DUPONT SCHEDULE. SO THEY WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND 
          THEY ALL WORK NIGHTS, WEEKENDS AND DAYS. >> AND WHERE DO YOU WORK? 
          >> WE ARE ON THE THE DME SPENCER CAMPUS. >> I SEE. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 
          >> MAYOR PRO TEM AND THEN. >> OH. OH THANK YOU BILLY. HI HI. IF I IF I REPEAT ANYTHING SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY SAID, JUST SAY THAT IT'S BEEN ANSWERED AND I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL START SINGING IF YOU. YEAH. OKAY. LET ME SEE. OH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE TIMES THAT DENTON 311 WORKS VERY QUICKLY. SO THERE WERE SOME CONSTRUCTION SIGNS UP ON CROSS STREET FOR MONTHS AFTER I THINK CONSTRUCTION WAS DONE, BUT I THINK IT WAS THE SAME DAY OR THE FIRST BUSINESS DAY AFTER I REPORTED IT. THEY WERE GONE. SO I'M SURE THAT THE THE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT STREET REALLY APPRECIATED IT. I'VE HAD AT LEAST ONE PERSON SAY THAT THEY THINK THEY GOT CUT OFF OF ENGAGED DENTON FOR SUBMITTING TOO MANY REQUESTS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WILL JUST KEEP TELLING PEOPLE, I GUESS, THAT. ENGAGE DENTON HAS BEEN REPLACED BY DENTON 311. THEY WERE SAYING IT KIND OF JOKINGLY, BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE MIGHT MIGHT THINK THAT. SO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD SORT OF HIT ON THIS OF SOME PEOPLE GET KIND OF FRUSTRATED WHEN THINGS ARE MARKED AS RESOLVED WHEN THE ISSUE STILL EXISTS. SO I THINK IT'S GOTTEN PRETTY GOOD ABOUT SAYING IT WAS SENT TO THE DEPARTMENT, AND I HAVEN'T SUBMITTED ONE IN A WHILE. THAT WAS LIKE THAT. SO I DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S GOTTEN BETTER IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENT UNDERSTANDING WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE OR HOW THEY WOULD FOLLOW UP 
          IF THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH MY TICKET? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON JUST WITH MY TEAM IS WHEN YOU CALL, IF YOU REPORT THAT THING THAT I KNOW IS GOING TO TAKE 30 DAYS, RIGHT? WE'RE TELLING YOU THAT TO BEGIN WITH, YOU'VE ASKED FOR A NEW SIGNAL LIGHT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS. SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET BETTER WITH EDUCATING THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO WORKING WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE BETTER INFORMATION, PROVIDE BETTER UPDATES. IF WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE, THAT'S GOING TO MEAN SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CALL A THIRD PARTY TO COME OUT AND ABATE AN ISSUE, WE'RE ASKING THAT CITY DEPARTMENTS PUT THAT INFORMATION IN THE TICKET, AND THAT INFORMATION GOES BACK OUT IN AN EMAIL TO THE RESIDENTS, SO THEY KNOW WHAT THE HOLDUP IS OR WHAT THE ISSUE IS. AND ANOTHER THING, JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL ASK FOR SOMETHING AND THEN THEY'LL SAY THEY WANT TO BE ANONYMOUS. WELL, YOU DON'T GET AN UPDATE IF YOU'RE ANONYMOUS. I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT THAT YOUR STREET LIGHT IS GOING TO TAKE A MINIMUM OF 38 DAYS, OR THAT WE DIDN'T DECIDE WE NEEDED A STREETLIGHT THERE, RIGHT? SO 
          PEOPLE ARE ANONYMOUS AND THEY DON'T GET THE UPDATES. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO SEND PEOPLE TO THE APP. I THINK IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT FOR EVERYBODY. I HAVE HEARD A FEW COMPLAINTS OF THEY START TO SUBMIT SOMETHING ON THE APP, AND THE QUESTIONS ARE JUST SO OVERWHELMING THAT THEY JUST GIVE UP. SO FOR THOSE PEOPLE, I'VE STARTED BEING LIKE, WELL, JUST CALL 311 IF IT'S BECAUSE I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE QUESTIONS THAN ENGAGE DENTON WAS. AND I'M SURE THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN THE REQUEST IS REALLY VAGUE, STAFF CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS OR, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH DETAIL TO REALLY RESOLVE THE PROBLEM. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITY TO TRIM SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I WOULD AGREE THAT I KIND OF STRUGGLED TO REPORT SOMETHING THAT I EASILY REPORTED ON ENGAGE DENTON JUST, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS OR I KIND OF HIT A DEAD END IN A 
          WEIRD SPOT. >> YES. SO GREAT QUESTION. AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. SO PART OF ADDING MORE SERVICE REQUESTS, WE WENT TO EACH DEPARTMENT AND SAID, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO KNOW TO FIX THIS POTHOLE? AND THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS FELT THAT THEY NEEDED ANSWERED. NOW, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT MANDATORY. YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE TEN QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN SKIP EIGHT OF THEM. AND PLEASE, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO DO SO IF IT'S NOT A MANDATORY QUESTION. BUT THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS FELT THAT THEY NEEDED TO, TO SOLVE WHATEVER ISSUE OR REQUEST YOU HAVE. NOW, OF COURSE, IF YOU SEE ONE AND YOU'RE LIKE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE CADEN AND I DO A GOOD JOB OF SAYING TO THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM WAS, HOW BIG IS THE POTHOLE? REALLY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO SAY, WELL, I CAN'T, I CAN'T. YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS HUGE. IT WAS HUGE, YOU KNOW, SO WE TRY TO TELL THE DEPARTMENTS, WE CAN'T ASK THAT. OR MAYBE WE 
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CAN ASK THAT IN A BETTER WAY. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, THIS IS CRAZY. YOU KNOW, REACH OUT AND LET US KNOW AND WE WILL WORK ON MAKING THOSE BETTER. 
          >> SURE. WILL DO. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. 
          >> THANKS, BILLY. HI, JILL QUESTION FOR YOU. OF ALL THE REQUESTS, WHAT'S THE MOST 
          COMMON TYPE OF REQUESTS? >> THE MOST COMMON. IT WAS ON HERE SOMEWHERE. I KNOW HOW TO. 
          >> IT'S PARKING. >> PARKING. OH MY GOSH, IT IS PARKING. I KNOW HIGH WEEDS. 
          NUMBER TWO PARKING VIOLATIONS. YES. >> I'M CURIOUS IF THAT CAN BE BROKEN DOWN INTO SUBCATEGORIES. IS IT ARE WE ARE WE SEEING ISSUES. PEOPLE PARKING IN FRONT OF PLACES. THEY SHOULDN'T BE PEOPLE BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM GETTING OUT FROM THEIR 
          RESIDENCES. WHAT KIND OF PARKING VIOLATIONS? >> SO I CAN LET YOU KNOW. I CAN BREAK THIS DOWN FOR YOU. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF PARKING VIOLATIONS. AND FOR SOME REASON, JUST AT THE MOMENT, I'M JUST DRAWING A BLANK. THERE'S NO PROBLEM. THERE'S THE YOU PARKING IN YOUR GRASS AND THEN THERE'S THE YOU PARKING ON THE STREET. YOU PARKING IN YOUR GRASS IS A CODE VIOLATION TYPE. AND YOU PARKING ON THE STREET FOR SIX MONTHS IS A IS A POLICE PARKING VIOLATION. SO RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M SORRY. OKAY, BUT I 
          CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. >> NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. 
          >> AND YEAH, CALL 311. THEY CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. >> ONE SECOND. 
          >> I DID WANT TO ADD THAT WE DID THE CITYWIDE PARKING STUDY. WE COMPLETED THAT LAST YEAR AND IT'S COMING BACK TO COUNCIL THIS SUMMER. SO WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PARKING 
          RECOMMENDATIONS THEN. >> WHY DID YOU DO THAT? I MEAN, YOU TOOK MY THUNDER. 
          >> YOU KNEW WHERE I WAS GOING. THANKS A LOT. OKAY. >> I GUESS I WON'T. I WON'T GO THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CITY MANAGER. NO MORE BACK IN PARKING. SO QUESTION I GUESS INFRASTRUCTURE WISE, WHY IS THIS UNDER DM OTHER THAN LOCATION OR IS IT SIMPLY LOCATION? I MEAN TONY'S GOT A TON OF STUFF TO DO. THAT'S I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY HE'S HITTING 
          ON THIS AS WELL. >> DM TOOK THIS PROJECT ON. TONY AND JERRY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF GETTING THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE DM ALSO HAS CUSTOMER SERVICE REPORTING TO THEM. AND SO 311 CUSTOMER SERVICE, BOTH VERY SIMILAR TYPE 
          OPERATIONS, BOTH REPORT UP THROUGH DM. >> FAIR ENOUGH. WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT THIS WEEKEND, I WAS SURPRISED THAT IT WASN'T UNDER PUBLIC WORKS OR SAFETY OR ANYTHING. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, THERE'S NO DIRECTION NEEDED. BUT AGAIN, AS YOU UTILIZE THE APP OR IF YOU SEE THINGS OR TALK TO FOLKS, PLEASE PASS ALONG THAT INFORMATION. 
          AND I'M COMING UP BECAUSE THIS IS. YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION. SO I COME BEARING GIFTS. 
          >> OKAY, GREAT. >> SO YOU GET AN ELEPHANT TO REMEMBER US BY. 
          >> OH THAT'S CUTE. >> THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE THIS POLAROID PICTURE. 
          >> OKAY. >> TWO, THREE. >> THANK YOU. AWESOME. 
          >> THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER? 
          POLAROIDS? >> YES I DO, I'M. >> I'M TOO YOUNG FOR POLAROID. 
          AND THANK YOU JUDGE. I'LL NOTE THAT YOUR YOUR SLOT FALLING DOWN ON YOUR JOB. POTHOLES ARE 
          EIGHTH. SO YOU NEED TO GET TO REPORTING. YEAH. >> WELL THEY WERE THEY WERE 
          THEY WERE HIGHER UP OR LOWER. >> I EXPECT YOU TO DO BETTER. >> I'M THE GUY CALLING WALKING 
          THE DOG. >> THAT'S ME. OKAY. CAN I BORROW YOUR SHEET? SO WE'RE GOING TO SET THE ROOM. THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION. WE'RE NOW GOING TO SET THE ROOM FOR CLOSED SESSION. AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW, AT FOUR £0.26. IS THAT RIGHT? NO, 
          [1. Closed Meeting:]
THAT'S THE MINUTES. IS THAT RIGHT? NO. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. 4:26 P.M. CONVENE IN A CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE CLOSED MEETING ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEM A I'D 260758 DELIBERATIONS REGARDING REAL PROPERTY UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.072. CONSULTING WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SECTION 551.071 AND THEN ITEM B WAS A PLACEHOLDER, SO I'M NOT GOING TO CALL THAT. THAT'S NOT NEEDED. 
          AND SO WE'LL GIVE A SECOND TO SET THE R 
          [AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOO THIS MEETING OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS MAY 5TH, CINCO DE MAYO. IT IS 630. SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING. WE HAVE A QUORUM. CALL THE MEETING 
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ORDER FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA. PLEDGES TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE STAND 
          WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE. TO. THE FLAG. >> OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS. ONE 
          DAY, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE 
          [2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]
FOUR PROCLAMATIONS, AND THE FIRST OF WHICH, IF YOU ARE HERE WITH SMALL BUSINESS WEEK, IF YOU CAN MEET ME AT THE PODIUM THERE. 
          OKAY, Y'ALL, COME ON UP. SO WHO WANTS TO WHO'S OUR SPOKESPERSON? TELL US WHAT 
          WE'RE RECOGNIZING. >> WE ALL ARE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. I KNOW EVERYONE IS HERE FOR THIS EXACT REASON, BUT I'M ERIN CARNEY, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE DENTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND EVERY ONCE A YEAR, THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION RECOGNIZES SMALL BUSINESS WEEK THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE ON OUR 63RD YEAR. THERE ARE 3.5 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THEY EMPLOY 5.3 MILLION. SOME PEOPLE, 99.8% OF BUSINESSES IN TEXAS ARE SMALL, AND THEY EMPLOY SO MANY PEOPLE HERE IN DENTON. WE ARE PROUD TO REPRESENT SMALL BUSINESS. WE, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WORK WITH AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND TRUST EACH YEAR TO PUT THIS ON. I DID SEE ONE OF OUR PAST SPONSORS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, GREG JOHNSON. SO WITH SB AND VARIOUS. WE GOT TO GIVE YOU SOME CREDIT FOR THAT. BUT I HOPE YOU SEE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE AND OUR SPONSOR IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND TRUST AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BELIEVES IN THE STRENGTH OF LOCAL BUSINESS. 
          I KNOW CITY COUNCIL DOES AS WELL, AND THE CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF. SO ON BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THANK YOU FOR HONORING SMALL BUSINESS WEEK, AND I CHALLENGE EACH OF YOU THIS WEEK. MAKE A SMALL CHANGE, WHETHER IT'S NORMALLY YOU GO TO A CHAIN STORE FOR COFFEE, GO SOMEWHERE LOCAL, THINK ABOUT DINING LOCALLY, GRAB A BITE ON THE SQUARE. 
          AFTER THIS, OR IN THE SPIRIT OF CINCO DE MAYO, GRAB A LOCAL COCKTAIL AND ENJOY YOURSELF AND BE SAFE. MARTY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND 
          TRUST? NO. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THERE WE GO. OKAY. 
          >> INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> AT LEAST I'M AUSTIN ANDERSON. >> AARON NEWQUIST. 
          >> AND WE ARE. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF VIEWERS CAN SEE THIS. THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S IMPORTANT. ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU DO AND, AND RAISING AWARENESS AND THAT SORT OF THING. IT REALLY I HEAR IT REGULARLY WHEN I'M OUT AND ABOUT TALKING TO FOLKS, HOW, HOW GREAT A WORK OUR CHAMBER DOES IN HIGHLIGHTING WHAT WE DO. AND MAN, I THINK THE COFFIN RACES SOLD OUT IN LIKE A MINUTE, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. IT'S FAST. SO, SO A LOT OF GREAT STUFF HAPPENING, A LOT OF GOOD VISIBILITY. AND SO HERE WE GO. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS THE CITY OF DENTON, ECONOMY AND CHARACTER ARE BUILT UPON THE FOUNDATION OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, WHICH CREATE JOBS, FUEL INNOVATION, AND PROVIDES THE UNIQUE GOODS AND SERVICES THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY THRIVE. AND WHEREAS THE DENTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HELPS DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES THROUGH ADVOCACY, EDUCATION, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS, WHILE ACCESS TO CAPITAL AND FINANCIAL SERVICES REMAINS ESSENTIAL TO BUSINESS GROWTH AND SUSTAINABILITY. AND WHEREAS, SMALL BUSINESS WEEK IN DENTON, SPONSORED BY AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND TRUST, PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS OF LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND ENCOURAGES COMMUNITY SUPPORT, INVESTMENT AND COLLABORATION, LEADING TO BUSINESS SUCCESS AND JOB CREATION. NOW, THEREFORE, I, GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THIS WEEK, MAY 3RD THROUGH THE NINTH, 2026 AS SMALL BUSINESS WEEK IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND INSTITUTIONS TO RECOGNIZE A SMALL. RECOGNIZE AND SUPPORT THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT STRENGTHEN DENTON'S ECONOMY AND ENHANCE ITS QUALITY OF LIFE. IF WE CAN 
          GIVE THEM A HAND. >> MR. PITCHER. >> YOU CAN HELP ME HOLD THIS. 
          >> ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I BELIEVE THAT AND I HAVE 
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YOU. OH, PERFECT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. JOHN. GOOD EVENING. 
          >> OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT PROCLAMATION IS BIKE MONTH. IF YOU'RE HERE FOR BIKE MONTH, IF 
          YOU CAN COME ON DOWN. NO. >> HEY, HEY. >> YOU'RE VERY WELL. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU. HEY, HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? SO Y'ALL CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND THEN TELL US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING AND ADD ANY NOTES ON HOW PEOPLE CAN GET PLUGGED UP, PLUGGED IN, 
          UPCOMING EVENTS, WHATEVER. >> OKAY. I'M MARLIS LAMAR, I AM THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF THE ART ROOM, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ART ROOM FOR THE POSITIVE PSYCHOLOGY RIDE THAT WE'RE HAVING ON MAY 16TH, AND WE INVITE YOU TO COME OUT AND RIDE WITH US. IT'S A LOT OF 
          FUN. EXCELLENT. >> INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> HELLO, I'M KATE BRINSON AND I'M A MEMBER OF DENTON WOMEN'S CYCLIST. WE ARE A WOMEN'S WRITING GROUP WHERE WE ENCOURAGE SAFE RIDING AND WE GET WOMEN INTO RIDING. WE HAVE A GROUP RIDE THAT MEETS ON TUESDAY AT THE BAYLOR SELBY LOT AT 6:30 P.M. IF YOU WOULD EVER LIKE TO JOIN US, YOU CAN ALSO 
          FIND US ON FACEBOOK. >> HI, I'M MAGGIE BO. SHE SAID IT ALL. 
          >> I'M MELISSA CARR AND I HELP LEAD THE RIDE ON TUESDAYS AND WE'RE IT'S LIKE A 8 TO 10 AND PROBABLY AN HOUR RIDE. SO IF YOU'VE IF YOU'VE EVER THOUGHT LIKE, HOW DO I GET AROUND DENTON? AND I'D LIKE TO TRY IT ON A BIKE, JOIN US ON TUESDAY NIGHT. 
          >> AND I'M. COUNCIL MEMBER SUZI RUMOHR. I RIDE WITH THESE LADIES WHEN I'M NOT AT COUNCIL 
          MEETINGS. >> THANK YOU, SUSAN. AND I'M KATHY ALBRIGHT, AND I'M A FORMER BOARD MEMBER OF THE ART ROOM AND A VOLUNTEER. I'M AN ARTIST VOLUNTEER THERE. AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. MAY IS BOTH NATIONAL BIKE MONTH AS WELL AS NATIONAL MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH. AND SO AT THE ART ROOM, WE'RE ALL ABOUT HEALING AND RECOVERY THROUGH ARTISTIC EXPRESSION AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF ARTISTIC SKILLS. 
          BUT REGULAR EXERCISE ALSO SUPPORTS MENTAL HEALTH. SO WE HOPE YOU'LL JOIN US ON MAY 16TH. 
          WE HAVE A GREAT BIKE RIDE PLANNED. WE HAVE THREE ROUTES, A SEVEN MILE FOR FAMILIES 27 AND A 50 MILE ROUTE FOR THE MORE SERIOUS. AND THEN AFTER WE HAVE A BIG PARTY WITH LOTS OF RAFFLE PRIZES AND MUSIC AT EASTSIDE. IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL THING. SO I HAVE POSTCARDS AND 
          WE'LL LEAVE OUT ON THE TABLE IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. SO I HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE. AND IT IS IT SAYS PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS THE CITY OF DENTON IS DEDICATED TO FOSTERING A BIKE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY THROUGH THE PURSUIT OF OFFICIAL DESIGNATION AND ENHANCEMENT OF OUR VISION ZERO PROGRAM WITH A MOBILITY PLAN THAT PRIORITIZES SAFE TRAVEL AND EFFECTIVE NETWORK, AND AN EFFECTIVE NETWORK, AND THE LEVERAGING OF INNOVATION TO FACILITATE ALTERNATIVE TRAVEL OPPORTUNITIES. AND WHEREAS BICYCLING IS RECOGNIZED AS A SUSTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE, AND ENJOYABLE FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATION THAT BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY BY PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT AND IMPROVING PUBLIC HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DENTON, THE ART ROOM, DENTON BIKE, DENTON BIKE, TEXAS, AND LEAGUE OF AMERICAN BICYCLISTS, LOCAL BIKE SHOPS AND INDEPENDENT CYCLISTS THROUGH OUR. THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY ARE PROMOTING GREATER PUBLIC AWARENESS OF BICYCLISTS ON OUR ROADS AND TRAILS AND IMPROVE SAFETY FOR ALL OUR USERS. NOW THEREFORE, I. GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM MAY 2026 AS BIKE MONTH IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO EXPERIENCE THE JOYS OF BICYCLING THROUGH EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, PERMITTING COMMUTING EVENTS, BIKE TO WORK DAY, CHARITY EVENTS, RACES, OR BY 
          SIMPLY ENJOYING A BIKE RIDE IF WE GIVE THEM A HAND. >> WE ARE IN. YOU CAN GET US OVER HERE. OR DO WE NEED TO BALANCE OUT? ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. I CAN STAND, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YEAH, SURE. APPRECIATE IT. YES. THANK YOU 
          ALL FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. AND NEXT, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR DRINK WATER WEEK, 
          IF YOU COULD COME ON UP. HEY. >> HEY, MISTER. >> HOW ARE YOU, MAN? HOW DO WE 
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          DO ON THE FIRE HYDRANT COMPETITION? >> OH, YEAH. 
          >> SECOND. >> OH, HEY, HOW ARE YOU? HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US. 
          >> I KNOW. >> THAT'S AWESOME, MAN. IT WAS REALLY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
          POST THAT WAY. >> YEAH. >> GOOD, GOOD. OKAY, WHO'S TELLING US WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING? WHO'S THE OKAY? VERY GOOD. YES FOR SURE. HERE 
          WE GO. >> HELLO AND GOOD EVENING TO EVERYBODY HERE. THAT'S TO CELEBRATE DRINKING WATER WEEK. HOPE SO. THIS IS OUR ONCE A YEAR OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE ALL THAT GOES INTO OUR DRINKING WATER AND CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SAFE, CLEAN 
          DRINKING WATER. AND IF YOU'RE IN DENTON, AWARD WINNING WATER. >> YES. THAT'S RIGHT. SO, YEAH. 
          >> SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW FOLKS THAT DO THIS AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THEM. DAY AND NIGHT, WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS, CHRISTMAS, THANKSGIVING. WE'RE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER IS SAFE AND CLEAN. SO THIS IS THE PROCLAMATION OF THAT I HOPE. 
          >> GOT IT. AND WHO DO WE HAVE HERE WITH US? >> HI, I'M JOEL LANNING. I WORK 
          IN THE WATER UTILITIES ADMINISTRATION. >> I'M ABBY, I'M THE REGULATORY 
          COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR. AND THIS IS PHILLIP. >> OH. 
          >> OH, AND PETER AND GEORGE. >> OH, YES. >> DENNIS QUARLES, ASSISTANT 
          GENERAL MANAGER OF THE WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND CAN YOU GIVE US A SCOPE SCALE? JUST GIVE US A WATER STATISTICS THAT YOU FIND THAT EVERYONE'S HERE TO HEAR ABOUT WATER STATISTICS. SO WHAT WHAT JUMPS OUT AT YOU WHEN 
          YOU'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY TOUR? >> WELL, EVERYBODY DID LOOK LIKE THEY WERE INTO STATISTICS, SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE PRODUCED AT OUR PEAK MAYBE 43 OR 45 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY IN A DAY, WHICH IS A LOT. SO BUT THAT'S A 
          PRETTY OUTSTANDING NUMBER, I THINK. >> AND THAT TOWER, LIKE THE 
          TOWER AT MCKENNA PARK, HOW MUCH WATER GOES IN THERE? >> SO THE TOWER, THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AT OUR MCKENNA PARK, WHICH IS A HISTORIC PARK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT I CAN HOLD 2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER AND IT GOES UP AND DOWN EVERY DAY. PEOPLE THINK THAT THE WATER TOWERS ARE ALWAYS FILLED WITH WATER, BUT WE ROTATE THROUGH THEM TO KEEP 
          IT NICE AND FRESH. >> THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, LET ME FIND MY THING SO I CAN SEE THE PAPER. THERE IT IS. OKAY. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION TO ALL WHOM THOSE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. WHEREAS WATER IS OUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE, ESSENTIAL FOR SUSTAINING PUBLIC HEALTH, SUPPORTING AND A PROSPEROUS ECONOMY, AND ENSURING THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE OUR COMMUNITY ENJOYS. AND WHEREAS THE DEDICATED WATER PROFESSIONALS OF OUR MUNICIPALITY, MUNICIPAL UTILITIES WORK TIRELESSLY TO MONITOR, TREAT AND DELIVER SAFE, RELIABLE TAP WATER WHILE MAINTAINING THE COMPLEX INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED TO KEEP IT FLOWING. AND WHEREAS, DRINKING WATER WEEK SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE ROLE THAT TAP WATER PLAYS IN OUR IN OUR DAILY LIVES FOR HYGIENE AND HYDRATION, TO FIRE PROTECTION, AND TO COMMIT OURSELVES TO OUR STEWARDSHIP AND CONSERVATION OF OUR PRECIOUS WATER RESOURCES. NOW THEREFORE, I, JEROD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM THIS WEEK, MAY 3RD THROUGH THE NINTH, 2026 AS DRINK WATER WEEK IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THESE INDIVIDUALS SO WE CAN GIVE THEM A HAND. 
          >> CAN Y'ALL HOLD THAT ON ME FOR ME? THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING, MAN. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. YOU. AWESOME MAN. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE HELP. 
          >> OKAY. AND IF YOU ARE HERE WITH T.W. GYMNASTICS, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, PLEASE. 
          >> HEY, HOW YOU DOING? EXCELLENT. >> HEY, HOW. 
          >> ARE YOU? >> YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE RARE OCCASIONS WHERE I ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE IN THESE STEPS FALLING. BUT I FELT GOOD ABOUT THIS. THEY TURNED IT INTO A FLIP OR SOMETHING. LIKE THEY'D HANDLE IT WELL. SO I FELT GOOD ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHT, TELL US 
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          WHAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, TODAY WE'RE HERE TO CELEBRATE THE 2026 GYMNASTICS TEAM WHO JUST WON THEIR 14TH NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. WE HAD TWO INDIVIDUAL NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. WE HAD 16 ALL-AMERICANS. WE HAD THREE STUDENT ATHLETES WHO QUALIFIED FOR THE NCAA REGIONALS. THAT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD MORE THAN ONE DO THAT. SO THAT WAS GREAT. AND OUR COACHES WHO SEND THEIR GREETINGS TO YOU, THEY'RE AT THE NCAA COACHES CONVENTION THIS WEEK AND COULDN'T BE HERE. 
          THEY ALL WON MULTIPLE COACH OF THE YEAR AWARDS THIS YEAR, SO IT WAS A FANTASTIC YEAR FOR THE 
          GYMNASTICS. OH, ALL WHILE EARNING ABOVE A 3.8 GPA. >> CUMULATIVE. OUTSTANDING. 
          OUTSTANDING. >> SO WE'LL GO DOWN. LET Y'ALL INTRODUCE YOURSELVES. NOW THIS IS ARCHIVED ONLINE. SO MOTHER'S DAY WHATEVER SHOUT OUT YOU WANT TO DO TALK ABOUT ITS ARCHIVE. 
          YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF FANS. SO HERE YOU 
          GO. >> HI, I'M ELENA REED. >> WHERE ARE YOU FROM? WHAT'S 
          YOUR MAJOR AND WHAT. >> YEAR IN SCHOOL? I'M FROM MCKINNEY, TEXAS. I'M A CHILD DEVELOPMENT MAJOR. AND WHAT WAS YOUR. OH, I'M. I JUST FINISHED MY SOPHOMORE YEAR. 
          >> YES. >> MY NAME IS BAILEY BOURGEOIS. I'M FROM GONZALES, LOUISIANA. 
          I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH MAJOR AND I'M A JUNIOR. >> I'M JORDAN LUKE. I'M FROM 
          CANADA. I'M A SOPHOMORE. AND MY MAJOR IS BIOLOGY. >> I'M JULIANA BAKER, I'M FROM MAGNOLIA, TEXAS. MY MAJOR IS CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND I JUST FINISHED FRESHMAN YEAR. 
          >> MY NAME IS ELLIE IN-HOUSE. I'M FROM COLORADO SPRINGS, COLORADO. I'M A KINESIOLOGY MAJOR, AND I JUST FINISHED MY SOPHOMORE YEAR. I'M BAILEY UPTON, I'M FROM WILMINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA. I'M A KINESIOLOGY MAJOR, AND I JUST FINISHED MY SOPHOMORE YEAR. I'M ADDIE DOANE. MY MAJOR IS GRAPHIC DESIGN. I'M FROM GEORGIA AND I JUST FINISHED MY FRESHMAN YEAR. I'M MADDIE MURPHY FROM SPOKANE, WASHINGTON. I'M MAJORING IN FINANCE, AND I 
          JUST FINISHED MY JUNIOR YEAR. >> HI, I'M GABBY RUSEVA. I JUST FINISHED FRESHMAN YEAR. I'M FROM SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, AND MY MAJOR IS BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND DOWN THIS WAY. >> HI EVERYONE. 
          >> I'M CAITLIN THOMAS. >> I'M THE GRADUATE ASSISTANT COACH. SO I'M CURRENTLY GETTING MY MASTER'S IN COACHING. I'M FROM SEATTLE, BUT I'VE NOW BECOME A TEXAS RESIDENT. SO 
          THAT'S EXCITING. >> HI, I'M CAROLINE BOUNDS. I'M A POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR AND JUST FINISHED MY JUNIOR YEAR. AND I COME FROM NEW HILL, NORTH CAROLINA. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMANI GLENN. I'M FROM MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. JUST FINISHED MY 
          SOPHOMORE YEAR AND MY MAJOR IS AVIATION FLIGHT SCIENCES. OKAY. >> HI, I'M SOPHIA ISBELL, I'M FROM BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS. I'M A CRIMINAL JUSTICE MAJOR, AND I JUST FINISHED MY JUNIOR YEAR. 
          HI. >> I'M KYLIE MENARD, I'M FROM OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS. I AM A 
          SPORT MANAGEMENT MAJOR AND I JUST FINISHED MY JUNIOR YEAR. >> HI. 
          >> MY NAME IS BROOKE FERRARI. I'M FROM COLORADO. I'M A GRAPHIC DESIGN MAJOR AND I'M 
          GRADUATING ON FRIDAY. >> HI, I'M RUBY, I'M FROM NEWNAN, GEORGIA. MY DEGREE IS NUTRITION AND HEALTH STUDIES, AND I JUST FINISHED MY SENIOR YEAR. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I. >> APPRECIATE IT. WELL, OUTSTANDING. AND I CAN'T ENCOURAGE YOU ENOUGH IF YOU'RE IF YOU HADN'T BEEN ON CAMPUS IN A WHILE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO VISIT ONE OF VISIT THE CAMPUS, VISIT ONE OF THEIR EVENTS. A LOT OF GREAT STUFF HAPPENING THERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF AWARDS. THEY'RE WINNING AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS MORE BROADLY, JUST SOLVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND, AND DOING A LOT OF GREAT RESEARCH. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND SO HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE. AND IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, TO ALL WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME. GREETINGS. 
          WHEREAS THE TEXAS WOMAN'S UNIVERSITY GYMNASTICS PROGRAM ACHIEVED OUTSTANDING SUCCESS THIS THIS SEASON, SECURING THE 14TH NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN PROGRAM'S HISTORY AT THE WOMEN'S COLLEGE, COLLEGIATE, COLLEGIATE GYMNASTICS NATIONAL INVITATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AND STRENGTHENING TWU LEGACY OF EXCELLENCE. AND. WHEREAS, TWU STUDENT ATHLETES DELIVERED EXCEPTIONAL INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCES, EARNING NATIONAL HONORS AND QUALIFYING FOR THE NCAA GYMNASTICS REGIONALS, SHOWCASING THE DEPTH AND DEPTH AND TALENT OF THE PROGRAM. AND WHEREAS, FOR MORE THAN FOUR DECADES, TWU GYMNASTICS HAS COMPLETED COMPETED AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF COLLEGIATE GYMNASTICS, UPHOLDING A TRADITION OF ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, INTEGRITY AND LEADERSHIP THROUGH NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED COACHING AND LONG 
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STANDING COMMITMENT TO ACHIEVEMENT. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DENTON COMMENDS THE PIONEERS FOR THEIR DEDICATION, PERSEVERANCE, AND OUTSTANDING REPRESENTATION OF THEIR SCHOOL AND OUR COMMUNITY, INSPIRING FUTURE GENERATIONS OF STUDENT ATHLETES. NOW THEREFORE, I, GERALD HUDSPETH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE TEXAS WOMAN'S UNIVERSITY GYMNASTICS TEAM FOR THEIR REMARKABLE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND ENDURING CONTRIBUTIONS TO COLLEGIATE, COLLEGIATE, COLLEGIATE ATHLETICS AND DECLARE MAY 5TH, 2026 AS TEXAS WOMAN'S UNIVERSITY GYMNASTICS DAY IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO ENJOY AND CELEBRATING THIS EXTRAORDINARY ACCOMPLISHMENT IF WE GIVE THEM A HAND. 
          >> HERE WE GO, HERE WE GO. OH, CAN YOU IN THE BACK. OKAY. DO WE? SHOULD WE? YEAH WE SHOULD. 
          ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. THREE. TWO. ONE TWO. ONE MORE TIME. THREE. TWO. FOUR. OKAY. HERE. 
          AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH MY GOODNESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          [3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]
          >> OKAY. IF WE CAN PLAY THE VIDEO FOR ADDRESSING COUNCIL. >> THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT. A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED. IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING. IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS. IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NONSCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS. ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY. SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS. ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR SPEAKER MISS SHORT WITH DEMENTIA FRIENDLY. IF YOU CAN COME UP AND GIVE 
          YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. THANK YOU. >> HOPEFULLY I WON'T TAKE THAT 
          LONG. >> YEAH. AND YOU CAN ADJUST THAT DOWN FOR. YEAH. THANK YOU. 
          >> HOW'S THAT? >> PERFECT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU THIS EVENING FOR LETTING ME SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS ABOUT DEMENTIA FRIENDLY. IT IS JUST WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THE RESOURCE THAT WE ARE NOW PROVIDING IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, EACH OF YOU, A BROCHURE THAT TALKS ABOUT DEMENTIA FRIENDLY AND DEMENTIA FRIENDLY IS A MOVEMENT THAT'S GOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND PART OF IT IS, IS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE RESOURCES AND EDUCATION TO THE COMMUNITY, TO OUR BUSINESSES, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CURRENTLY ARE SUFFERING FROM DEMENTIA, THERE ARE OVER 200 DIFFERENT TYPES, AND THEIR CARE PARTNERS ARE BEING SUPPORTED BY OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S A LITTLE 
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BIT OF A COMBINATION OF BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY, RESPITE, CAREGIVER SUPPORT GROUPS, WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS. 
          WE HAVE A STRONG COMMUNITY OF RETIREES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE TWO UNIVERSITIES. AND I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE DEMENTIA, MAYBE A FAMILY MEMBER, MAYBE A FRIEND. AND I THINK AS WE AGE, WE ARE ALSO BEING ASKED BY OUR DOCTORS PARTICULAR QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW WE ARE DOING COGNITIVELY. IF WE CAN SAY WHO THE PRESIDENT IS, IF WE CAN SAY WHERE WE'RE LIVING, SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE NOW BEGINNING TO HAPPEN TO MORE AND MORE OF US AS OUR POPULATION AGES. BUT THIS IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE RESOURCE THAT WE ARE OFFERING IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE A LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO ARE OCCURRING A DEMENTIA FRIENDLY CHAPEL SERVICE. WE HAVE SUPPORT GROUPS WE HAVE. 
          THAT'S NOT ONLY THE ALZHEIMER'S ASSOCIATION, ROBERTSON RANCH HERE, STEPPING STONES AND ONE IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT IT GIVES YOU A LIST OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND PEOPLE TO CONTACT IF YOU ARE IMPACTED OR YOU KNOW OF SOMEBODY WHO IS STRUGGLING. BEING A CAREGIVER IS A 24 HOUR, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. IT IS DIFFICULT TO REST. IT IS DIFFICULT TO SLEEP. YOU KEEP AN OPEN EAR LISTENING TO NOISE THAT'S GOING ON. IF SOMEBODY WANDERS OUT OF THE HOME OR GOES INTO THE KITCHEN. MY PARENTS TOOK CARE OF MY GRANDMOTHER, AND MOM ALWAYS HEARD MY GRANDMOTHER AT THREE IN THE MORNING MAKING COFFEE. BUT THAT WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE STOVE. AND EVENTUALLY THE KNOBS CAME OFF THE STOVE. EVENTUALLY, DIFFERENT THINGS OCCURRED TO KEEP MY GRANDMOTHER SAFE AND ULTIMATELY ACTUALLY WENT INTO A FACILITY, WHICH IS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE ALSO, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE OF WHO WE ARE. 
          YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT, ESPECIALLY NEXT MONTH. JUNE IS DEMENTIA MONTH, ALZHEIMER'S ASSOCIATION. SO WE WILL GET MORE OUT. WE HAVE A WEBSITE, WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE, WE HAVE A NEWSLETTER, AND TRYING TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL LEAVE MORE OF THE BROCHURES OUT FRONT, BUT ESPECIALLY I THINK EACH OF YOU ALL HAVE ONE AND EVEN A DEMENTIA FRIENDLY PIN TO REMIND YOU OF WHO WE ARE. THAT'S IT. I KNOW MAYOR HUSBAND, I KNOW JILL, AND I THINK PART OF IT IS WE'VE FELT THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE BY THE 
          CITY COUNCIL AND BY THE COMMUNITY. >> GREAT. AND ONE SECOND 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK, ARE YOU STILL GOING OUT TO BUSINESSES HELPING MAYBE AT A RESTAURANT SERVERS UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK WITH GETTING AN ORDER FROM SOMEONE THAT'S SUFFERING? YES. GOING TO LAW FIRMS. I KNOW YOU ALL CAME OUT TO MY LAW FIRM TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO WORK WITH PEOPLE AND COMMUNICATE BEST. ARE YOU STILL 
          DOING THOSE THINGS? GREAT. >> THAT'S PERFECT. MARKETING TOOL. 
          >> WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE ELSE KNEW TOO, SO THEY COULD INVITE YOU. 
          >> OUR GOAL IS ESPECIALLY TO GO OUT TO BUSINESSES WHEN THERE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES EARLIER TO GET THE WORD OUT AND TO EXPLAIN PART. THE BACK OF OUR BROCHURE TALKS ABOUT SOME OF THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF WHAT DEMENTIA IS AND HOW TO SUPPORT, AGAIN, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO COMES TO THE COMMUNITY OR LIVES HERE. WE HAND OUT TO OUR CAREGIVERS, EVEN LITTLE CARDS THAT WILL EXPLAIN THAT THE PERSON I AM WITH HAS A MEMORY ISSUE, BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES IN A RESTAURANT THAT THEY STRUGGLE AND THEY WANT EVERYTHING ON THE MENU OR WHATEVER YOU'RE ORDERING ON THE MENU. BUT YES, WE PREFER AND ACTUALLY ARE REACHING OUT TO BUSINESSES SO THAT AGAIN, THEY CAN DO BETTER AT SERVING THEIR CUSTOMERS OR CLIENTS AND TO DO A BETTER SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY, MAKE THEM MAKE IT SAFE, MAKE IT A COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT TO STAY. WE SAW DURING COVID PEOPLE SHUTTING DOWN AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE HAVING ISSUES BECAUSE SOCIALIZATION IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU HAVE DEMENTIA, BEING OUT, BEING 
          AMONG PEOPLE, GOING PLACES. SO YES, THANK YOU JILL THAT HELPS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU ALL DO. THANK YOU. YES. AND NEXT SPEAKER IS MARY WRIGHT. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. 
          >> MARY. >> OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARY WRIGHT. I'VE LIVED ON MILL POND FOR OVER 20 YEARS. FOR MANY YEARS. THE COOPER EAST BRANCH WAS MAINTAINED BY THE CITY DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT. AND IN 2023, THAT RESPONSIBILITY SHIFT SHIFTED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION, AND THE AREA WAS DESIGNATED A NO MORE WILDFLOWER ZONE. SINCE 2024, I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED WHO MADE THIS DECISION AND HOW MANY RESIDENTS WERE INFORMED. I WAS REDIRECTED MANY TIMES WITHOUT CLEAR ANSWERS. FINALLY, ON THIS YEAR, I MADE AN OPEN, OPEN RECORD REQUEST AND FINALLY LEARNED THAT THIS CAME FROM A DECEMBER 2023 PARKS AND RECREATION MEETING AND THAT A FEEDBACK SURVEY EXISTED, BUT RESIDENTS 
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WERE NOT AWARE OF IT. HOW CAN THE PUBLIC PROVIDE INPUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW THIS OPPORTUNITY EXISTS? THIS PRACTICE, THIS PROJECT IS SCHEDULED FOR REEVALUATION IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR. I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER NOT ONLY THE REVIEW, BUT ALSO THE LIVED EXPERIENCES OF THE RESIDENTS AFFECTED EVERY DAY. HISTORY DOES MATTER. AND ON APRIL 25TH, 2007, THIS AREA WAS FLOODED AND DAMAGED AND HOMES DAMAGED. RESIDENTS HAD TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO REQUEST IMPROVEMENTS. THAT RISK HAS NOT DISAPPEARED. IN 2025, NO MAINTENANCE WAS PERFORMED. VEGETATION OVERGROWTH AND OTHER OBJECTS BLOCKED WATER FLOW AND CAUSED THE CREEK. THE CREEK TO RISE. I REPORTED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES AT 311 WITH NO RESOLUTION, AND ONLY AFTER CONTACTING THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AT A CREW EVENTUALLY CLEAR THE BLOCKAGE. 
          WEEKS LATER. WE ALSO HAVE SEEN CHANGES IN THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS CREEK ONCE SUPPORTED DUCKS, TURTLES AND A VARIETY OF BIRDS. MY GRANDCHILDREN LOVE WATCHING THEM. WE HAVEN'T SEEN DUCKS SINCE 2024 UNTIL THIS PAST SATURDAY WHEN I SAW A DUCK, A MOTHER DUCK, AND A DUCKLING. 
          THAT MOMENT WAS MEANINGFUL. MEANINGFUL. BUT IT ALSO RAISES THE QUESTION IS THIS APPROACH REALLY HELPING THE ENVIRONMENT OR CREATING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR BOTH WILDLIFE AND RESIDENTS? IF THE GOAL IS TO PROMOTE WILDFLOWERS, THERE ARE MORE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS LIKE THE DESIGNATED NATURAL HERITAGE AREA AND NOT A RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR WITH A KNOWN FLOOD HISTORY. I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THIS DECISION AND RESTORE REGULAR MAINTENANCE TO COOPER CREEK EAST. THIS. THE CURRENT CONDITIONS ARE THE RESULT OF CHOICES MADE WITHOUT RESIDENTIAL AWARENESS OR INPUT. 
          OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD NOT BEAR THE RISK OF THOSE DECISIONS. WE EXPECT ACTION THAT PROTECTS OUR HOME, ENSURE PROPER DRAINAGE, AND REFLECTS THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. AND THIS IS 2027 2007, WHEN THE FLOOD. AND THIS IS THE AREA NOW. I GUESS IT DIDN'T GET THOSE. ALSO PROVIDED PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE NOW, BUT THIS IS JUST A FLOOD 
          FROM 2007. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WE HAVE ONE ONE QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE FROM 
          DISTRICT TWO. >> HEY, MARY, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH ANY OF OUR BLUE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE FOLKS AT THE TEXAS MASTER NATURALIST AT UNT, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING IN CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH PARKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 2007 FLOOD NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN WHILE RESTORING HABITAT. AND THEN ACTUALLY, THE TRUTH IS THAT THIS KIND OF HABITAT RESTORATION PREVENTS FLOODING, DOESN'T INCREASE IT. SO IF MADAM CITY MANAGER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GETTING SOME OF THESE GROUPS, ESPECIALLY DOCTOR JAMIE BAXTER, SLY AT UNT, MAYBE, MAYBE MISS WRIGHT WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THESE THESE BLUE GREEN 
          INFRASTRUCTURE EXPERTS THAT ARE ADVISING THE CITY RIGHT NOW. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION, BRIAN? 
          >> IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR. >> YEAH, SURE. GO AHEAD. >> WELL, NOBODY MONITORED THIS CREEK ANY THIS PAST YEAR, AND I CAN ONLY SEE IT BECAUSE I MAINTAINED MY YARD. SO I CAN SEE THE CREEK LIKE I HAVE FOR YEARS. AND THE CREEK WAS RISING. NOBODY CAME UP. NOBODY CAN SEE IT. AND SO I DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY ELSE WOULD NOTICE IT BUT ME. 
          >> YEAH, YEAH. NO, WE'LL HAVE THEM REACH OUT AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER, YOU'LL HAVE HER INFORMATION AS WELL TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD LINE OF COMMUNICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THAT TAKES US TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PRUDENCE SANCHEZ. IF YOU CAN 
          COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. YES. >> IF IT'S OKAY. IF WE CAN JUST 
          ESCAPE OUT OF THIS. >> YES, I THINK KRISTI CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT, PLEASE? AND 
          THANK YOU. >> THAT'S FINE. >> THIS ONE. 
          >> THERE YOU GO. >> MY NAME IS PRUDENCE SANCHEZ. I LIVE AT 711 JACKSON STREET. 
          I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF DENTON SINCE 1995. I'VE WORN MANY HATS HERE IN DENTON. DENTAL HYGIENIST. ATTORNEY. BUT TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING AS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER. I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT ABOUT THE AUDIT THAT WAS DONE IN APRIL OF 2025 REGARDING THE HOMELESS. 
          INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY IS DOING. SO SADLY, THE AUDIT STATED IN APRIL 2025 THAT ENCAMPMENT RESPONSE PROCESSES ARE REACTIVE, NOT COORDINATED, AND NOT WELL DOCUMENTED. NO GUIDELINES EXIST FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY ENCAMPMENTS, SO I AM KIND OF HOLDING MY BREATH. 
          >> SO I THINK YOU HAD SOMETHING TO GO OFF. >> YEAH. THANK YOU. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW ON MY PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE OWN WE OWN PROPERTY ON SYCAMORE STREET AND A LOT BEHIND IT. THAT IS ON CRAWFORD STREET. AND WE OWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE MIDDLE OF 
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THE CREEK. WE'VE ASKED THE CITY BEFORE TO HELP US WITH THESE SITUATIONS AND WHAT THE CITY, WHAT THE POLICE HAVE TOLD US IS YOU NEED TO MARK YOUR BOUNDARIES. PURPLE WITH PAINT. 
          YOU NEED TO PAINT YOUR FENCE PURPLE. THAT WAY WE'LL KNOW THAT YOU ARE TRESPASSING THESE PEOPLE AND THAT WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. SADLY, THIS IS THIS IS JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. I AM AFRAID TO ENTER MY PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THESE ENCAMPMENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATE OF MIND ANYBODY IS WHO MAY BE TRESPASSING ON MY PROPERTY. I'M NOT UNSYMPATHETIC TO THE SITUATION I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF, SERVED ON A BOARD MEMBER OF SERVE DENTON. I'VE DONE THE POINT IN TIME COUNT. I HAVE BEEN ON THE HOMELESS COALITION AND I'VE DONE LOW BONO CASES FOR CHILDREN WHO NEED REPRESENTATION HERE IN DENTON. WHAT I AM NOT UNSYMPATHETIC TO IS THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS NO ANSWER FOR ME, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CRIMINALLY TRESPASSING ON MY PROPERTY, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF ON MY PROPERTY. AND THEN I AM TOLD THAT WHEN THIS ILLEGAL DUMPING TAKES PLACE AND THE PERSON WHO HAS COMMITTED THIS CRIMINAL MISCHIEF OR ANY ILLEGAL DUMPING LEAVES, IT'S UP TO ME AND AT MY COST TO CLEAN IT UP. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD A FEW WEEKS AGO. WELL, MY HUSBAND'S GOING TO SPEAK AFTER ME. IT MAKES ME THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE ENCAMPMENTS. AND THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR ME. THIS THESE ENCAMPMENTS ARE RIGHT ON THE DRAINAGE DITCH. I HAVE STEPPED IN FECES, HUMAN FECES ON MY PROPERTY. I KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE USING THE BATHROOM IN THESE DRAINAGE AREAS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF POLLUTION GOING DOWN INTO THE DRAINAGE AREA, AND I AM HAPPY TO HAVE HEARD TONIGHT THAT WE STILL HAVE REALLY GOOD DRINKING WATER AND IT'S REALLY SAFE. BUT THIS DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. AND I GIVE PROPS TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO PROVIDE US CLEAN WATER WHEN THESE THINGS ARE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN HERE IN THE CITY. AFTER THE AUDIT, I KNOW THAT THE DENTON SHELTER, THAT THAT THE NONPROFITS THAT RUN THE CITY SHELTER MADE SOME CHANGES AND DROPPED FROM THEIR 24 HOUR SERVICES IN FAVOR OF THE LONG TERM HELP THAT HAS NOT IMPACTED THESE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ACCOMMODATIONS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO OFFER EXCEPT WHAT THE AUDITOR SAID. INCREASED COORDINATION BETWEEN STREET OUTREACH PROVIDERS AND CENTRALIZED ENCAMPMENT DECISION 
          MAKING. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND THE I SEE NO QUESTIONS. SO I'LL CALL UP ALFREDO SANCHEZ AND YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> YES. IT'S OKAY IF I LEAVE THIS UP BECAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY USE IT. YES. THANK YOU. I MIGHT 
          ADVANCE THE SLIDES. OKAY. >> OKAY. MY NAME IS. MY NAME IS ALFRED SANCHEZ. I LIVE AT 711 JACKSON STREET, AND I'M A RETIRED WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST, AND CURRENTLY I'M A LANDLORD AND ALSO MANAGE OUR PROPERTY. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER. I HAVE A HOUSE THAT I MANAGE FOR THE WORKING POOR OUT OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES I HAVE. SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOMELESS. I HIRE HOMELESS PEOPLE TO HELP ME WITH THE MAINTENANCE. I PARTICIPATED SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN IN DEVELOPING A. TO INCLUDE BOARDING HOUSES IN THE CITY PLAN. CURRENTLY, I'M REMODELING ANOTHER HOUSE THAT I'M GOING TO USE FOR THE WORKING HOMELESS. I AM HERE TO DISCUSS THE TRASH ALONG THE STORM WATER WATER DRAINAGE NEAR SYCAMORE STREET IN SOUTHEAST DENTON. THIS DRAIN EVENTUALLY DRAINS INTO LAKE LEWISVILLE. MY PROPERTY IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THIS CONCRETE DRAIN. A COUPLE OF TIMES I HAVE BECOME AWARE OF FIRES WITHIN MY PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF ACCUMULATION OF TRASH BY THE HOMELESS AND AND THE HOMELESS. CAMPING ON MY PROPERTY. LESS THAN A WEEK AGO, THERE WAS A FIRE ON MY PROPERTY. I HAVE PAINTED MY PROPERTY 
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BOUNDARY PURPLE AS ADVISED BY A POLICEMAN AND THAT AND. BUT THAT DID NOT DETER CAMPING ON MY PROPERTY BY THE HOMELESS. WHEN WE WALK OUT INTO THE PROPERTY, IT IS NOT UNUSUAL TO GET FECES ON OUR ON OUR SHOES. THE TRASH SHE'S HOMELESS BRING INTO THE CAMPSITE IS MIND BOGGLING. I HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT I WILL HAVE TO REMOVE THIS TRASH AT MY OWN EXPENSE. BY BY BY ON CITY BY CITY, BASED ON CITY POLICY. WHAT IS ALSO DISTURBING IS THE AMOUNT OF TRASH ALONG THIS WATERWAY THAT ENDS UP IN LAKE LEWISVILLE. LAKE LEWISVILLE IS A RECREATIONAL LAKE ALONG AS A SOURCE OF WATER FOR TEXAS RESIDENTS. IT IS THIS. IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT ALL ITS CITIZENS, NOT JUST THE HOMELESS. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ALLOW A FEW RENEGADE HOMELESS TO TRASH PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUSINESSES AND OUR CITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE HOMELESS PROBLEM MAY EXCEED THE CURRENT CAPACITY TO HOUSE THEM ON 288 AND BY THE SALVATION ARMY, THERE ARE MANY SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE THAT REQUIRE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. MY POINT IS, THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND TO PROTECT ALL ITS CITIZENS. I HAVE PROVIDED A FEW PICTURES SO THAT YOU. SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THE SERIOUSNESS OF OF THIS PROBLEM. ALSO, THERE. IT'S NOT JUST ON MY PROPERTY, BUT IT'S ALSO ACROSS THE CREEK, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, TWO PROPERTIES DOWN HIS HOUSE. HE HAD A BUSINESS AND THE BACKSIDE, IT WAS VACANT, BUT THE BACKSIDE OF HIS BUILDING WAS BURNED BECAUSE THEY CONTINUOUSLY WENT IN THERE AND WOULD HAVE FIRES AND STUFF. 
          SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT WHOLE CREEK NEEDS TO BE. WHAT'S THE WORD I WANT PATROLLED, PATROLLED. AND WE TALKED TO THE WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT KEEPING THAT AREA. AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU MOVE THEM OUT OF THIS AREA AND THEY'LL MOVE TO ANOTHER AREA, BUT THEY KNOW WHERE THEY JUST MOVED FROM ONE AREA TO THE OTHER AND THEN COME BACK WHEN THEY WHEN THEY'RE 
          ASKED TO REMOVE TO BE MOVED. >> YEAH. NO, AND I WILL TELL YOU, I WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ACCURATE. IT IS CHALLENGING. AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PROVIDING ROLL-OFF DUMPSTERS IN THIS INSTANCE, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES. I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR INSIGHT ON HOW WE CAN SOLVE FOR THOSE AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THOSE, BECAUSE I'M JUST AS PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AND ONE OF A STATEMENT OF FACT, AND I'M GOING TO GET THIS WRONG. 
          SO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, IT'S NOT POSTED. SO I CAN'T GO INTO DETAIL, BUT I CAN DO STATEMENTS OF FACT. SO SOMEBODY HELP ME IF SOMEONE BECAUSE THIS IS FRUSTRATING FOR ME AS WELL. SO IF SOMEONE IS FOUND ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? WE GO GIVE THEM A NOTICE, RIGHT? AND THEN THEY HAVE DAYS, GIVE THEM A NOTICE TO TO LEAVE AND THEY HAVE DAYS TO, TO COLLECT THEIR STUFF. IS THAT AM I CLOSE? I KNOW I'M CLOSE. COME ON UP. LET'S GET IT OUT THERE. JESSE 
          KENT HELPS HELPS WITH THAT. YES, SIR. SO WHAT'S THAT PROCESS? >> JESSICA, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY. IT IS TOTALLY IN THE PROPERTY OWNER'S CONTROL. IF THEY WANT AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE TRESPASSED, THEY CAN CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE 
          CONTROL OF THEIR PROPERTY. >> AND THEY'RE REMOVED SAME DAY. >> IF IF THAT'S THE THE PROPERTY OWNER'S REQUEST, THEY WANT THAT INDIVIDUAL TRESPASS. THAT IS THE POLICE'S PROCESS. 
          >> OKAY. WELL, NO, Y'ALL. Y'ALL, DO YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION ALREADY? 
          >> YEAH. >> WHAT HAPPENS IS AND WE'VE HAD IT, WE'VE, WE'VE ASKED TO BE TO HAVE TRESPASSED. AND BASICALLY WE'RE TOLD THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE TOLD WE CAN DO THE BLUE PURPLE LINE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TRESPASS THEM. FIRST OF ALL, THESE PEOPLE COME IN, THEY SAY, WE DON'T. WE HAVE TO GET A HOLD OF THEM. WELL, THE POLICE COME IN DURING THE DAY. THESE GUYS ARE GONE EARLY IN THE MORNING AND COME BACK LATE AT NIGHT. SO IN ORDER TO TRESPASS THEM, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF TICKET OR SOMETHING OR TELL THEM YOU'RE TRESPASSING. WELL, IT DOESN'T WORK. AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT BY THE POLICE. 
          BASICALLY, THEY TELL ME, YOU GO OUT THERE AND TAKE CARE OF IT YOURSELF. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO DO IT. YEAH, AND IT'S NOT JUST ME. IT'S THAT 
          WHOLE. YEAH, IT'S THAT WHOLE CREEK AREA. >> NO, NO, IT'S IT'S BEYOND THAT. AND THAT'S A CHALLENGE. AND SO I'LL JUST TELL YOU AGAIN STATEMENT OF FACT. YES. WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PROVIDE ROLL OFFS BECAUSE THAT THAT IS NOT A MUNICIPAL 
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USE. THERE'S LOTS OF GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY IS A REAL THING AND WE NEED HELP FIXING IT. AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE THINGS. BUT THANK YOU FOR RAISING AWARENESS. I APPRECIATE 
          IT. AND GET JESSE'S INFORMATION AND HE'LL HELP US. >> OKAY. 
          >> IS THAT IT? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> VERY MUCH. WE WILL ESCAPE OUT. >> OF THAT. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS. OH, MAN. JOLLY MAN. YES, WILLIE HUDSPETH, COME ON UP. GLADLY. YES, SIR. LET ME KNOW IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, JUST LET ME KNOW. MISTER LARRY. COME ON UP. GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. 
          >> MY NAME IS LARRY LAWRENCE. COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, MISTER MAYOR. 
          THAT THESE READERS HERE. >> YES, SIR. >> SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CITY MANAGER. THE POSITION THAT'S OPENED UP. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY HIRE WITHIN. AND I BELIEVE MISS OGDEN WOULD BE THE PERFECT CHOICE. SHE'S ALREADY DOING THE JOB AND. YOU KNOW, I SENT A REQUEST IN APRIL 15TH TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT IT COST THE CITY TO GO OUTSIDE FOR HIRE. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN ANSWER BACK YET, SO I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH. AND ON THE LOW END, OUR CITY WILL SPEND BETWEEN 215 TO $275,000 FOR THIS PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, I HEAR THAT WE HAVE SOME BUDGET RESTRICTIONS. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT COULD BRING US ANOTHER OFFICER OR FIREFIGHTER. WE HAVE SOMEONE WITHIN, YOU KNOW. WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES AT WHAT RISK WHEN WE GO OUTSIDE, WHAT'S IT DO TO THE, THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES? YOU KNOW, WE RUN THE RISK OF THE MORALE CULTURE, HIGH TURNOVER. YOU KNOW, IT'S A MESSAGE THAT IT SENDS, YOU KNOW, TO OUR GREAT CITY EMPLOYEES. THEY'RE THE THEY'RE THE BACKBONE OF DENTON, RIGHT? THE THE CEILING CAN ONLY BE SO HIGH FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, IF YOU ASPIRE TO WANT TO DO SOME THINGS AND, AND MOVE UP THE RANK. WELL, YOU CAN ONLY GO TO HERE. RIGHT. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO HIRE WITHIN. RIGHT. THIS IS A UNIQUE CITY. SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS JOB. YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOT THE INTERIM TAG TO HER NAME NOW. SO IT ALMOST SENDS A MESSAGE. I'M JUST ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HOLD IT DOWN FOR SO LONG, BUT LET US GO OUTSIDE AND BRING SOMEONE IN. AT LEAST FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE DEMORALIZING WHEN I'M ALREADY DOING THE JOB AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT CITY, RIGHT? LET'S, LET'S SHOW THAT WE WILL HIRE WITHIN. THAT'S WHAT SENDS A GREAT MESSAGE TO THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A QUICK STORY I'D LIKE TO TELL. I KNOW WHEN MISS OGDEN, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE SIXTH GRADE, THEY HAD A CLASS PROJECT. 
          AND ON THIS PROJECT SHE ENDED UP THE CITY MANAGER. AND SHE KNEW THEN THIS IS WHAT SHE WANTED TO. THIS IS WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEND THAT MESSAGE, RIGHT? DREAMS COME TRUE. YOU WORK HARD, YOU'LL BE REWARDED. AND NO ONE KNOWS OUR CITY LIKE THE FOLKS THAT ARE FROM OUR CITY. RIGHT? GOING OUTSIDE. LET'S LET'S STAY IN HOUSE, RIGHT? LET'S TAKE SOME OF THIS MONEY. AND AGAIN, MAYBE BRING A FIREFIGHTER OR OFFICER ON BOARD OR HELP WITH 
          SOME OF THESE OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE FOLKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> APPRECIATE IT. >> DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND? ALL RIGHT. WELL, COME ON UP. 
          GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE 30S TO GET OFF TO A GOOD START. >> WE HAD AN ELECTION, DIDN'T 
          WE GET RID OF YOU DURING THAT TIME? >> I WONDER IF THIS MUTE BUTTON 
          STILL WORKS. I HADN'T USED IT IN A WHILE. >> STILL HERE. AND I HAVE A COMPLAINT. OFFICER. WHEN I CAME IN HERE, OFFICER HILL WAS RUDE AND MEAN TO ME. YEAH, HE WANTED TO PUT THE HANDCUFFS ON ME AND HE SLAMMED ME AGAINST THE WALL FOR NO REASON. 
          >> GET THAT MAN A RACE. >> YEAH. THAT MAN. I GIVE UP. I TOO WANT TO SPEAK FOR. GODWIN. 
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HOPE I SAY IT. THAT RIGHT. I MET WITH HER AND I'VE DEALT WITH OVER THE YEARS SEVERAL CITY MANAGERS. AND SHE'S BY FAR THE BEST I'VE EVER WELL IN DEALING WITH ME THAT I'VE I'VE SEEN AND THAT'S A LOT. SO AND I THINK THAT ALONG WITH MR. LAWRENCE, WE WE AGREED THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN HOUSE THAT DOES THE JOB VERY WELL, WHY WOULD YOU GO OUT TO SPEND SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH, IF THE CITY IS HAVING BUDGET PROBLEMS, COULD AID IN THAT. IN ELIMINATING THAT PROBLEM, YOU HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB NOW, AND YOU ALREADY KNOW SHE CAN DO THE JOB. SO OUR SUGGESTION IS THAT JUST FORGET THAT SEARCH YOU'RE PLANNING TO PAY FOR AND, AND JUST LET HER KNOW THAT SHE'S GOT THE JOB. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. AND YOU CAN TAKE IT. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING 
          IF YOU FOLLOWED UP WITH THAT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT 
          [4. CONSENT AGENDA]
CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS, TAKES US TO THE CONSENT PORTION OF OUR AGENDA. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. 
          BUT FOR ITEMS E, F AND O, THOSE WERE PULLED. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. 
          >> MAYOR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE THREE ITEMS AS PREVIOUSLY 
          DISCUSSED THAT ARE REMOVED. >> SIR. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. 
          >> I'LL SECOND. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          BUT FOR ITEMS E, F, AND O WHICH WERE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL VOTES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM E, WHICH 
          [E. ID 25-2012 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas Home-Rule Municipal Corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a Development Agreement with Baker 345, LLC and RM Squared Denton, LLC, for the payment in lieu of the construction of offsite sidewalk improvements along a portion of Masch Branch Road between Hampton Road and US380; and providing an effective date.]
IS. ID 252012. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, A HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BAKER 345 LLC AND R M SQUARE DENTON LLC FOR PAYMENT IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTION OF OFF SITE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG A PORTION OF MOSS BRANCH ROAD BETWEEN HAMPTON ROAD AND 
          US 380. AND MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THIS ITEM A LITTLE BIT FULLY UNDERSTANDING IT. I THINK I NEED VISUALS AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM E TO A DATE CERTAIN OF MAY 12TH TO ALLOW MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND 
          THIS ITEM BEFORE VOTING ON IT. >> OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT 
          TWO. >> I CAN SUPPORT THAT. >> YEAH. 
          >> WELL, YEAH, THE 12TH WERE CANVASING THE VOTES. IT WOULDN'T BE THEN. I DON'T HAVE 
          A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. >> DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE NEXT DATE? I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO 
          POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO A DATE. CERTAIN OF MAY 19TH. >> OKAY. AND DO YOU STILL 
          SECOND THAT. >> I DO, SIR. >> OKAY. GREAT DISCUSSION. I 
          REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. >> MAYOR. PERHAPS IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER ON THIS PROJECT SINCE HE'S HERE, MAYBE TALK US THROUGH IT. MAYBE WE CAN GET TO SOME RESOLUTION 
          TONIGHT. >> YEAH, NO, I, I HAVE I HAVE THAT BEFORE HE COMES UP. I HAVE THAT QUESTION. SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          >> NO SIR. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR. SO WITH STAFF AWARE OF DID STAFF RECEIVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS. RIGHT. LIKE WHAT. I GUESS NOT EVEN FOR STAFF. MAYOR PRO TEM, MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE THE MIC AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WHAT WAS NOT PROVIDED OR WHAT 
          IS MISSING IN THE TIME THAT WE HAD TO PREPARE FOR THIS. >> SURE. I DID REQUEST A VISUAL, A MAP KIND OF SHOWING THE SITUATION, AND I DIDN'T GET THAT. AND SO I'M STILL JUST THE VERBAL DESCRIPTIONS WITH ALL THE WAYS THE STREETS ARE LAID OUT IN THIS AREA, I'M REALLY STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOCATIONS OF EVERYTHING. SO I LARGELY I NEED A VISUAL. THE 
          BIG THING I'M MISSING. >> YEAH. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I CAN PULL UP HERE. 
          SO JUST JUST FOR COUNCIL'S REFERENCE, YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS AREA IN BLACK IS THE ACTUAL SITE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. IT IS OFF OF MOSS BRANCH ROAD AND NORTH OF HAMPTON ROAD. SO IT'S YOU CAN SEE HERE MAYBE IT'S NOT TOO CLEAR, BUT IT'S JUST WEST OF 35 OFF OF MOSS BRANCH ROAD. SO THIS PROJECT DID COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN 2022, AND THE DEVELOPER 
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COMMITTED TO DOING ADDITIONAL OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF THEIR ZONING REQUESTS. AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THESE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED. SO THIS IS HAMPTON ROAD HERE. THE THIS IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY'RE COMPLETING THE THREE LANES OF ROADWAY ON MOSS BRANCH ROAD. AND THEN OFF SITE, THEY'RE COMPLETING TWO LANES, RECONSTRUCTING ONE LANE AND COMPLETING AN ADDITIONAL LANE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE IMPROVEMENTS WERE ALREADY MADE AT MOSS BRANCH AND US 380. 
          >> OKAY. >> LET ME GET BACK TO MY SCREEN. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THE APPLICANT. BUT WHAT'S BEFORE US? HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEFORE US IS PAYMENT IN LIEU OF. SO THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED, RIGHT? THERE'S NO PICTURE OF A SIDEWALK OR AREA WHERE SIDEWALKS GOING. WE'RE GOING TO PAY. THEY'RE GOING TO PAY IN IN LIEU OF PUTTING ASIDE. DO I UNDERSTAND. 
          >> THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE AGREEMENT IS FOR PAYMENT IN LIEU OF THERE'S RIGHT OF WAY CONSTRICTIONS IN THIS AREA WHERE THERE'S AN ADJACENT PARKING LOT. SO THIS HIGHLIGHTED AREA IN RED IS WHERE THERE'S SOME DIFFICULTY IN BEING ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THAT SIDEWALK. AND OUR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES STAFF IS LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY OF MAKING SOME TYPE OF CONNECTION IN THIS AREA WITH THAT PAYMENT IN LIEU. 
          >> BUT OUR STAFF AGREES THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE YOU. 
          >> THERE'S THERE'S AN ADJACENT. SO THIS THE AREA FURTHER NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY HAS MORE GRASSY AREA BETWEEN IT AND THE DEVELOPMENT. THE AREA IN RED IS ADJACENT TO A PARKING LOT. 
          >> GOT IT. OKAY. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE MOVE ON? YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IF YOU DO, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME. 
          >> LEE RAMSEY 525. SOUTH LOOP 288. EXCUSE MY DRESS. I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO BE HERE PRESENTING TONIGHT, SO CAME STRAIGHT FROM THE OFFICE. SO JUST A QUICK THING. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THE ZONING CASE ON THIS, WE PROMISED THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF HAMPTON ROAD THAT WE WOULD NOT IMPROVE THAT ROAD. AND A DEVELOPER TO THE SOUTH OF US HAD ALREADY IMPROVED PART OF MOSS BRANCH ROAD. SO WE'RE CONTINUING ON MOSS BRANCH OF WHAT THEY HAD IMPROVED BEFORE, TO CONNECT IT AND THEN BRING IT UP THROUGH OUR PROPERTY. SO THERE WAS JUST ONE LITTLE SECTION OF SIDEWALK WE WEREN'T ABLE TO BUILD BECAUSE OF EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY OF A PROJECT THAT WAS DONE IN THE ETJ AND THEN LATER BROUGHT INTO THE CITY. SO WE'RE BUILDING SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE. FEASIBLE. THERE'S JUST ONE SMALL SECTION, AND WE'RE ALSO ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. THERE'S A CURRENT FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING IN LIEU OF FOR AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK ON THAT SECTION OF ROAD, ALTHOUGH THAT'S A FIVE FOOT ALL THAT'S REQUIRED IN THAT SECTION. THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD WILL HAVE A TEN FOOT. 
          AND THEN AS WE COME UP AND AND BUILD BOTH SECTIONS OF THE ROAD, ONCE WE GET PAST, YOU KNOW, THE WHERE THE TURN IS, WE'RE BUILDING ALL SECTIONS OF SIDEWALK. SO THERE'S JUST ONE SECTION BECAUSE OF GRADES AND WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY IN THE ETJ THEN BROUGHT TO SEE THAT WE DON'T QUITE HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY THERE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THE SIDEWALK AGREEMENT. SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS. 
          >> GOT IT. THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 
          SIX. >> SO. >> OH, SORRY. SO WELL, I HAVE I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE FOR THE MOVEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCERN IS. 
          AND SECOND, ONCE WE HEAR THAT IF IT STILL EXISTS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IF THERE'S ANY DETRIMENT TO PUSHING IT ANOTHER FEW WEEKS OR IF YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY RAMIFICATIONS FOR THAT OR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE KNOW OF. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          >> YES, BY ALL MEANS. >> IT'S POSSIBLE THAT I MIGHT BE GOOD, BUT I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. WHENEVER IT COMES TIME. I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE IN LINE FIRST. 
          >> OKAY. YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TIMING OF YOU FOR YOUR PROJECT? 
          >> OUR PERMITS ACTUALLY APPROVED. WE DID MAKE A COUPLE OF REVISIONS TO OUR PLANS, AND OUR PERMIT WAS APPROVED, AND WE HAD TO MAKE A COUPLE REVISIONS BECAUSE WE HAD TO MOVE POWER LINES AND SOME GAS LINES. AND ONCE THOSE WERE MOVED, WE HAD TO MAKE A COUPLE REVISIONS FOR GRADES ON SIDEWALKS TO MAKE SURE THEY TIED IN SO WE COULD BUILD THEM THAT SECTION JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF HERE. SO WE GOT THOSE. SO OUR SILT FENCE IS ALREADY UP AND WE HOPE TO START 
          CONSTRUCTION AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH. >> OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM 
          DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER TOUCHED ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. LET THAT BE KNOWN. 
          I'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE VOTE TONIGHT. HOW WILL THIS AFFECT YOU, SIR? 
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          >> WELL. >> IF PARDON ME, IF WE DELAY A VOTE UNTIL THE 19TH. 
          >> IT WOULD REALLY HELP US IF YOU GUYS COULD VOTE TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE COULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH STARTING OUR CONSTRUCTION, OUR SILT FENCES UP. AND WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DONE TO DO OUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING WITH THE CITY. I BELIEVE THAT'S 
          THE CASE, RIGHT? I'M NOT MISSPEAKING THERE. OKAY. >> DO I PRESUME YOU HAVE CREWS 
          READY TO GO? >> YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED OUR CONTRACT WITH CROSSLAND CONSTRUCTION TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION ON IT. AND THEY'VE ALREADY MOBILIZED SET SILT FENCE. SO THIS WAS KIND OF ONE OF OUR LAST BOXES TO CHECK. OTHER THAN THE LAST COUPLE OF 
          REVISIONS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE TO CONTINUE THE SIDEWALK TO. >> THE MAYOR, TIME IS MONEY. I 
          WILL NOT SUPPORT A DELAY. >> THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT OR BETTER SAID MAYOR 
          PRO TEM. >> THANK YOU. MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS THERE A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK OF LIKE AT LEAST FIVE FEET OR SO ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE OF THE STREET RIGHT NOW? 
          >> NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY THIS WAS JUST A TWO LANE COUNTY ROAD WITH BAR DITCHES IS WHAT IT WAS. 
          AND SO THE DEVELOPER TO THE NORTH ALONG 380 UP TO OUR POINT, HAD ALREADY BUILT THAT SECTION OF ROAD AND TAKEN, GOTTEN RID OF THE BAR DITCH ON THAT SIDE, WHICH WE'RE DOING, CONTINUING THAT. SO WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE BAR, PUTTING STORM IN AND STORM INLETS. AND SO IT'S MORE OF A CITY. IT IS A CITY ROAD SECTION. SO JUST IN THIS ONE SMALL SECTION IN RED, HERE IS WHERE YOU SEE THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO GET THAT IN RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE IS SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN THAT ONE SECTION, BECAUSE WE JUST COULDN'T GET THE GRADES TO WORK WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY. BECAUSE THIS ISN'T OUR PROPERTY. OUR PROPERTY IS TO THE NORTH OF HERE. SO WE THAT ONE LITTLE SECTION WE COULDN'T GET A SIDEWALK IN. 
          >> IS THERE SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE? >> WE'RE BUILDING NEW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD? NO, IT'S STILL BAR DITCH. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'LL GET DEVELOPED 
          WHEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD DEVELOPS. YES, MA'AM. >> TO COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER'S QUESTION EARLIER. MY MY BIG CONCERN IS THAT IF IT'S NOT BUILT NOW, THAT SOMEHOW WE WON'T GET AROUND TO FILLING THE GAP, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT SEEMS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. SO THAT THAT'S WHAT MY ULTIMATE CONCERN IS. BUT YOU SAID THAT THERE WILL BE SIDEWALK 
          EVERYWHERE, THAT THERE'S SPACE AT THE TIME. >> YES, MA'AM. IT WILL GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE NEW ROAD SECTION. AND THEN ONCE WE START BUILDING THE WHOLE ROAD SECTION THAT COMES ONTO OUR PROPERTY, WE'LL BUILD WHAT'S REQUIRED THERE. OKAY. 
          >> WELL, I'M HAPPY TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION. AND GO AHEAD AND MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. I JUST REALLY STRESS THAT STAFF CONTINUE TO WORK ON FINDING A WAY TO FILL THIS GAP. 
          >> OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT FIVE. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO 
          COME DOWN AND ANSWER QUESTIONS TONIGHT. HAPPY TO. SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US 
          [F. ID 26-0597 Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Denton, Texas, amending prior resolution consenting to the creation of “Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, Texas” and the inclusion of land therein; and providing an effective date.]
TO ITEM F. I'D 260597. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS. AMENDING PRIOR RESOLUTION. CONSENTING TO THE CREATION OF COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS AND AN INCLUSION OF LAND THEREIN AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          AND THIS IS I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM 
          DISTRICT FOUR. >> I SECOND THAT MOTION. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 
          TWO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE REASON I ASKED TO HAVE THIS PULLED IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS STATED IN THE BACKUP. THE QUESTIONS TO BACKUP WAS WHEN I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EFFICIENCIES WOULD BE TO ALLOWING THIS SORT OF FLEXIBILITY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS MOSTLY GEARED TOWARDS THE. THE ABILITY TO NOT CONTINUOUSLY GET AUTHORITY TO COME BACK SO THAT THE DEVELOPERS COULD COULD MAXIMIZE THE ABILITY TO, TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY IN WAYS THAT THAT HONESTLY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BONDS AND TAXES SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF OVERSIGHT. AND SO IT'S NOT THAT I'M, I'M AGAINST OR FOR ANYTHING GOING ON IN THAT SECTION. IT IS THAT I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT THE FLEXIBILITY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE FOR THE OVERSIGHT. SO I'M I'M NOT GOING TO BE 
          SUPPORTING THE MOTION. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT FIVE 
          MAYOR. >> QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY ATTORNEY? 
          IS THIS KEEPING IN LINE WITH WHAT WE DID WITH HUNTER? >> YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THIS IS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. I BELIEVE IT'S IDENTICAL OR SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO THE 
          HUNTER DEAL. >> THIS. CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS REQUEST BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, HUNTER HUNTER RANCH HAS NOT HAD TO MODIFY 
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THEIR DISTRICT AND SUBDISTRICT BOUNDARIES. THEY HAVE CREATED THEIR SUB DISTRICTS THOUGH, SO BOTH DEVELOPMENTS AND THEIR OPERATING AGREEMENTS ALLOW FOR SUBDIVIDING INTO MULTIPLE DISTRICTS. COLE RANCH IS SUBDIVIDED INTO THREE DISTRICTS NOW AND THEN ARE HAVING TO ADJUST THEIR BOUNDARIES OF ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS, WHICH IS THE REASON THIS ITEM IS BEFORE 
          CITY COUNCIL TODAY. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES 6 TO 1, TAKES US TO OUR LAST CONSENT 
          [O. ID 26-0667 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract extension with Curtco, Inc., through April 26, 2027, to continue the crack sealing services for the Streets Department; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (RFP 7572 - extending a contract with Curtco, Inc., to April 26, 2027).]
AGENDA ITEM. AND THAT IS ITEM OH, ID 260667. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, A TEXAS HOME RULE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH KURT CO. INC THROUGH APRIL 26TH, 2027 TO CONTINUE TO CRACK SEAL SERVICES FOR THE STREETS DEPARTMENT, PROVIDING FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS THEREFOR AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I MOVE APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY QUESTIONS? 
          REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOR. >> FIXED STREETS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE I SECOND. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND TO COME RIGHT OFF OF COUNCILOR HOLLAND'S POINT. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THIS ITEM IS BEFORE US IS WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIX STREETS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS WHAT WAS THE, THE, THE RISK PROFILE THAT WENT INTO THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE CONTRACT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT ALLOWED US NOT TO BEAR THE RISK FOR DELAYS. AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED IN THE BACKUP WAS, WHAT WAS THE COST OF DELAYS? AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE COST THAT CONTINUING THE PROJECT. AND IT ISN'T THAT YOU SHOULDN'T DO CRACK SEAL, YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD. IT INCREASES THE LIFESPAN OF THE ESPECIALLY OF HIGH OCI ROADS BY 3 TO 5 YEARS. IT IS. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RISK IN THE DELAYS. SO THAT CONCERNED ME GREATLY. AND 
          THE QUESTION WAS NOT ANSWERED IN THE BACKUP. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I IF I CAN SPEAK TO THE POINT BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER BECK, THAT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WANTING TO HAVE THAT IN THE AGREEMENT. UNFORTUNATELY, AS FAR AS WHAT MY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE IS THAT THAT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE IN TODAY'S COMPETITIVE CONSTRUCTION. ET-CETERA WITH ALL OF THE TARIFFS, WITH THE ISSUES, GETTING THINGS ON TIME, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THESE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE'LL HAVE THE MATERIALS AT EVERY DATE. AND SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. BECAUSE OF THE TIME DELAY THAT STAFF STATED, WE WOULD START NEW BIDDINGS FOR A NEW CONTRACT BEGINNING IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. AND SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD, I'M I'M WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, BUT BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL AND THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING THE WAY I AM. 
          THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR. >> THIS IS AN ITEM THAT THAT IT'S LIKE SO MANY THINGS THAT THAT ARE JUST PART OF THE PART OF DOING BUSINESS WITH, WITH A CITY OUR SIZE, I THINK ANY, ANY DELAY ON THINGS LIKE THIS JUST, JUST JUST SLOWS US DOWN AND KEEPS US FROM, FROM, FROM FIXING STREETS THE WAY WE NEED TO. I WILL BE, I WILL BE 
          SUPPORTING THE, THE ITEM ITEM. OH, OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 6 TO 1 
          [A. Z25-0018a Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Residential 3 (R3) district to Residential 7 (R7) district on approximately 0.74 acres of land generally located on the northeast corner of Bolivar Street and Taliaferro Street, approximately 155 feet west of North Elm Street in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s Official Zoning Map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing for a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted (7-0) to recommend approval. Motion for approval by Chair Pruett and second by Commissioner Riggs (Z25-0018a, Denton Duplexes, Bryce Van Arsdale).]
TAKES US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ONE WHICH IS 5AZ250018A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, REGARDING A CHANGE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND USE CLASSIFICATION FROM R-3 RESIDENTIAL THREE TO DISTRICT. 
          DISTRICT TWO. RESIDENTIAL SEVEN R-7 DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 0.74 ACRES OF LAND. GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BOLIVAR STREET AND SOME OTHER STREET. APPROXIMATELY 
          1.55FT WEST OF NORTH ELM STREET. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL BRYCE VAN ARSDALE, ASSISTANT PLANNER. THIS IS Z 2518. RELATED TO A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.74 ACRES FROM R3 TO R7. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF DUPLEXES ON THE SUBJECT LOT, AND IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BOULEVARD STREET AND TALIAFERRO 
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          STREET. >> THERE YOU GO. >> HOLLY. TALIAFERRO YEAH, THE SURROUNDING AREA IS COMPRISED OF A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, AS WELL AS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION AND SOME COMMERCIAL SUPPORTING USES. THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS BETWEEN THE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS. THE MAJOR CHANGE WILL BE THAT THERE ARE SEVEN. ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR A SMALLER LOT SIZE OF A MINIMUM OF 4000FT■!S, AND A REDUCED FRONT YARD SETBACK. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS LOW RESIDENTIAL, WHICH PRIMARILY DENOTES AREAS WHICH ARE MADE UP OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING USES SUCH AS COMMERCIAL OR QUASI PUBLIC USES. THE MAXIMUM DENSITY OF THIS AREA DOES OF THE LOW RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION DOES ALLOW FOR FIVE UNITS DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. HOWEVER, WHILE THIS REQUEST DOES PROVIDE FOR A GREATER DENSITY THAN WHAT IS TYPICALLY RECOMMENDED WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S TAKEN PLACE OVER TIME, AS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LOTS WHICH EXCEED THIS FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE RECOMMENDATION. ADDITIONALLY, THIS REQUEST DOES SATISFY SEVERAL FUTURE I'M SORRY, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS SUCH AS LAND USE GOALS ONE AND THREE, AS WELL AS HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS. GOAL ONE. THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE R SEVEN PURPOSE STATEMENT AS IT DOES MAINTAIN THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, AND IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THIS REQUEST DOES MEET OUR CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL AND IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE ANY SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL, INFRASTRUCTURAL OR FISCAL IMPACTS. THIS PROJECT WAS NOTIFIED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE STATUTE, AND I WILL NOTE THAT TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WERE HELD IN DECEMBER. STAFF DID RECEIVE FOUR LETTERS IN OPPOSITION TOTALING ABOUT 11.8% OF THE 200 FOOT BUFFER AREA. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL SET FORTH IN THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND ON JANUARY 14TH OF THIS YEAR, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SEVEN ZERO. I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US. SHORT PRESENTATION. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY HAVING A SODA AT THE TOLLIVER DRUGSTORE ON THE SQUARE. YEAH, RIGHT. TALIFERRO, FOR GOODNESS SAKES. IT OCCURRED TO ME AT TOLLIVER'S DRUGSTORE THAT THAT THERE ARE VERY, VERY FEW DUPLEXES IN DENTON. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS CHANGE. TELL ME WHY THIS CHANGE IS HAPPENING THERE 
          ON TOLLIVER STREET. >> SO OVER ON THIS INTERSECTION OF TWO STREETS THAT IF YOU COMBINE THEM TOGETHER, SOUNDS LIKE TOLLIVER. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESIDENCES IN THE AREA, THE GENERAL AREA, THE GENERAL BLOCK, RATHER, WE SEE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 24 DUPLEX UNITS. WE HAVE FOUR QUADPLEXES AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY. IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THESE, THERE ARE ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT'S 40 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THAT SAME GENERAL 
          AREA. >> BUT AM I RIGHT? THERE HAS BEEN THERE HAS BEEN A 
          RELUCTANCE TO USE DUPLEXES IN IN CITY OF DENTON. >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE, BUT IN THIS GENERAL AREA, WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL DUPLEXES COME IN. THEY'VE COME IN A DIFFERENT PHASES, I SUPPOSE, WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE 
          DUPLEXES COME IN AROUND 1971, 1995, AND THEN AGAIN IN 2018. >> OKAY. OKAY. WELL, IN, IN, IN MEMORY OF THE ICE CREAM AT TOLLIVER DRUGSTORE, I'LL BE VOTING TO SUPPORT THE TOLLIVER 
          STREET DUPLEXES. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. 
          >> THANK YOU. I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED IN THE BACKUP BECAUSE I THINK OUR STAFF BACKUP SAID ONE THING. AND THE PROJECT NARRATIVE SORT OF MAYBE SAID THE SAME THING. SO LET ME LET ME GET SOME CLARITY RIGHT NOW WITH THE ZONING RIGHT NOW, HOW MANY UNITS COULD BE PUT ON THAT 
          PROPERTY TODAY WITH NO ZONING CHANGE? >> SURE. YOU COULD GET ALMOST ABOUT THE SAME. SO IT'S A 300 ZERO SQUARE FOOT LOT IN BETWEEN ADUS, AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. IT WOULD BE SLIGHTLY LESS, BUT THERE WOULD STILL BE SOME NUMBER MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. IT WOULD DEPEND ON DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS IT RELATES TO ACCESS AS WELL AS SETBACKS AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO IT JUST DEPENDS 
          ON THE PLAN THAT STAFF IS REVIEWING. >> AND SO ABOUT THE SAME. AND THEY COULD DO THAT BY BY. RIGHT. SO THE THE IMPACTS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR IF THE NUMBER OF 
          DWELLING UNITS ARE ROUGHLY THE SAME. >> THERE IS A PATH FORWARD FOR THE DEVELOPER TO REACH A SIMILAR NUMBER OF UNITS BY RIGHT TODAY WITHOUT THE ZONING 
          CHANGE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT 
          FIVE. >> BRYCE AND. IN THE IN THE BACKUP, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AROUND CARS ON THE STREET AND FROM IN TERMS OF THE NEGATIVE RESPONSES DID NOT DISCUSS THAT 
          THE STAFF HAVE A FEELING ABOUT THAT. >> CORRECT. SO PNC DID DISCUSS IT. IT'S ALSO BEEN TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND STAFF, AS WELL AS SOME OF 
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THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WAS DONE. THE DEVELOPMENT DOES PROVIDE THE MAXIMUM OR THE NUMBER OF ALLOWED PARKING SPACES WHICH ARE REQUIRED BY THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          AND WHILE STAFF DOESN'T REGULATE THAT AREA FOR PARKING, FOR STREET PARKING, RATHER OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S SET FORTH IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE DEVELOPMENT DOES PROVIDE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT WE HAVE DETERMINED ARE REASONABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT 
          OF THIS SIZE. >> OKAY. THANKS, BRYCE. >> OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE. 
          DISTRICT SIX. >> I'M SORRY YOU OPENED THE DOOR. I HAD TO WALK THROUGH HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED? I MEAN, ALL OF THE ALL OF THE CARDS THAT WE GOT BACK WERE IN OPPOSITION. THERE WERE NO IN FAVOR. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO TAKE PLANNING AND ZONING SEVEN ZERO IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL. SERIOUSLY, WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE PARKING? BECAUSE THAT SEEMED TO BE THE LARGEST CONCERN. WAS NO ROOM FOR CARS. 
          >> SURE. SO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE WITH DUPLEX USES AS PARKING IS DETERMINED BY YOUR USE. WE'LL HAVE 16 PARKING SPACES. OUR PARKING IS, YOU KNOW, IS THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN IS IT'S A PARKING MINIMUM. SO YOU HAVE TO MEET THAT MINIMUM TO. IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP, WE DO ALLOW THEM TO GO UP TO 125% OF THAT. AND BASED ON THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, WE HAVE 19 BUT THAT HAS AGAIN, NOT GONE THROUGH PLANNING REVIEW AS THIS SITE PLAN IS NOT TIED. IT'S ONLY CONCEPTUAL. IT'S NOT TIED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE. 
          >> AND HOW MANY HOW MANY BEDROOMS. >> SURE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE FOUR DUPLEXES. FOUR DUPLEXES. I THINK THE APPLICANT COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT. BUT THE USE THE DUPLEX REQUIRES IT PER DWELLING UNIT, NOT PER BEDROOM PARKING. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          >> THANK YOU. BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTIONS OF YOU, IS THIS GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO US? 
          >> I BELIEVE. >> SO, ACTUALLY, THIS ISN'T REALLY A QUESTION TO YOU, BUT I DID BIKE TO THE AREA ON SUNDAY TO KIND OF LOOK AROUND, EXPLORE THE AREA, LOOK AT THE ON STREET PARKING SITUATION. I EXPLORED THE EXISTING DUPLEXES, THE NEARBY QUAD PLEX ON BOLIVAR STREET ITSELF. MOST OF THE ON STREET PARKING WAS AT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THERE WERE THE TWO TIMES THAT I SAW ON STREET PARKING IN FRONT OF A DUPLEX. THERE WERE ONLY MAYBE TWO PARKING SPOTS AT THE DUPLEX. AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S LIKE TWO PARKING SPOTS FOR TWO UNITS. SO BASICALLY ONE PARKING SPOT PER UNIT. THIS WILL BE TWO PARKING SPOTS PER UNIT. AND WHEN I WENT TO THE NEWER DUPLEXES AND QUADPLEX NEARBY, I OBSERVED THAT THE DUPLEX UNDER OUR OLD CODE, IT WAS LESS THAN HALF FULL. THERE WAS MAYBE A LITTLE UNDER TWO CARS PER UNIT IN THAT PARKING SPOT. IT WAS A LOT OF THE SPACES WERE OPEN. AND THEN AT THE QUAD PLEX, THERE WERE AGAIN, MAYBE JUST UNDER TWO SPACES PER UNIT IN THAT PARKING LOT AS WELL. AND THERE WERE SEVERAL SPACES OPEN. SO THAT'S WHAT I OBSERVED. JUST WONDERING THE AREA RECENTLY. 
          >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY BEFORE THE APPLICANT COMES UP, JUST TO BE CLEAR. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE NEEDED. IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENCE IN A T U AS IT WAS LINED OUT. SO I THINK THREE RESIDENCES, THREE ADUS, 
          RIGHT? HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT? >> I BELIEVE IT'D BE FOUR PARKING SPACES FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AS WELL AS I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T BELIEVE 
          THAT WE HAVE ONE FOR THE ADUS. >> RIGHT. OKAY. AND, AND I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THE MAP JUST SO I HAVE IT CLEAR, THE OTHER DUPLEXES FACING FACING ELM OR FACING BOLIVAR. 
          >> THERE'S A COUPLE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET OF THE BLOCK, RATHER. SO THERE'LL BE SOME FACING BOLIVAR STREET AND SOME FACING A COUPLE FACING NORTH ELM STREET. 
          >> OKAY. AND THEN THE ZONING STAYS WITH THE. ONCE THIS HAPPENS. SO LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S CONCEPTUAL. WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO WE HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING IN THAT ZONING CLASS THAT CAN BE BUILT BECAUSE THEY COULD PIVOT AND SAY, WE WANT TO PUT A DAYCARE THERE AND THEY PROVIDE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN PERPETUITY. LIKE EVEN IF THEY PUT THE TOWNHOMES THERE, TEAR THEM DOWN TEN YEARS FROM NOW, THEY CAN PUT A BUSINESS THERE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. GOT IT. OKAY. SO, AMY, IF YOU CAN COME UP, YOU'LL HAVE TEN MINUTES IF YOU 
          CAN GIVE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AMY BISSETT, 109 NORTH ELM, 76201. I WANT TO START BY ADDRESSING A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP, JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION. WHILE I AM OPENING UP MY SLIDES, WHICH WILL BE BRIEF. SO JUST TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THE IMPETUS BEHIND THIS LOT SPECIFICALLY BEING REZONED FROM R3 TO R7 IS IT'S A LARGER LOT. IT'S THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, ESSENTIALLY. AND SO THE MY CLIENT, WHO IS A LOCAL FAMILY THAT LIVES HERE AND IS INVESTING IN THIS PROPERTY AS A MEANS OF INCOME FOR THEMSELVES. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT 
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THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN AND, AND BUILD A, YOU KNOW, A PRODUCT THAT THEY REPEAT IN MULTIPLE PLACES. THEY SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A SMALL NUMBER OF UNITS ON AN INFILL LOT THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING DIVERSITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND TO, TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, WE HAVE ANALYZED WHAT COULD BE DONE SPECIFICALLY UNDER R-3 ZONING. IT WOULD BE THREE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS WITH THREE HOMES AND THREE ADUS. SO IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS. AND WE HAVE ALSO ANALYZED THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS WE COULD GET IN UNDER R7, AND THAT IS EIGHT UNITS. SO WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THIS ZONING CHANGE TO ADD TWO UNITS TO WHAT'S PERMITTED TODAY. SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW. WE ARE PROPOSING A DUPLEX UNIT. WE'RE PROPOSING FOUR LOTS EIGHT UNITS. THIS IS AN INFILL PROJECT. 
          THERE ARE EXISTING DUPLEXES INTEGRATED INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA. THIS MAP SHOWS SHOWS A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY THE R7 VERSUS R3. THERE'S A GOOD MIXTURE OF BOTH IN. ALONG THIS ELM AND BOLIVAR CORRIDOR. THIS AERIAL OVERVIEW SHOWS THOSE. THOSE PROPERTIES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ARE ACTUALLY DUPLEXES OR MULTI-FAMILY QUADS TODAY, AND THOSE OUTLINED IN BLUE ARE COMMERCIAL USES TODAY. SO THERE IS A GOOD MIX THAT IS TO THAT. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SIMILAR IN SCALE TO WHAT IS EXISTING ON THE GROUND TODAY. I WILL NOT GO BACK THROUGH THIS CONCEPT PLAN OTHER THAN TO SAY WE ARE CURRENTLY SHOWING 16 PARKING SPACES FOR PER LOT, WHICH IS THE SAME THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER R-3 ZONING FOR PARKING SPACES PER LOT. AND WE DID HOLD TWO VIRTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. WE HAD A COUPLE OF ATTENDEES. I THINK YOU'VE ALL HEARD FROM THOSE ATTENDEES WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE. WE HEARD ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME TRIP GENERATION TABLES WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT ON STREET PARKING AND THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH. THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION AND ON TALIAFERRO, AND THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 16 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES. WE ALSO HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF TREES AND OUR PRELIMINARY TREE PRESERVATION ANALYSIS SHOWS US PRESERVING 14 OF 21 TREES. THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL CHANGE WHEN WE GET INTO GRADING AND CIVIL PLANS. BUT THE MY CLIENT IS MAKING A STRONG EFFORT TO PRESERVE TREES, AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO THAT IN A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TRIP GENERATION TABLES. THIS IS FROM THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS MANUAL. BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE PEAK TRAFFIC IN AND OUT WITHIN AN HOUR WOULD BE FOUR IN THE MORNING, FOUR CARS IN THE MORNING AND FIVE IN THE EVENING. WE DID HEAR SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WE HAD THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH OF THIS LOT ATTEND THAT MEETING, BUT THEY HAD NOT ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. AND WE. WE DID VERIFY THAT THEY WERE INCLUDED IN OUR MAILING, BUT THEY DID NOT SEE THE INVITATION. AND THEIR CONCERNS WERE SPECIFIC THAT THE PARKING SPACES WERE FACING NORTH DIRECTLY TOWARDS THEIR PROPERTY LINE. AND THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE SECOND STORY WINDOW VIEW OF NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES FROM THIS DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS. AND THE REASON THAT THERE'S SUCH A DELAY BETWEEN THE PNC MEETING IN JANUARY AND TODAY IS BECAUSE WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND REALLY RELOOKED AT THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON SITE, THOSE SPECIFICALLY WHO BORDER THIS PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, AND WE DRAFTED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO PUT SOME COMMITMENTS IN WRITING TO THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT I'LL WALK THROUGH NOW. SO MY CLIENT HAS COMMITTED TO A TEN FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, PRESERVING THE TREES. WITHIN THAT ALL CAN BE PRESERVED. AND THERE ARE SOME LARGE OAK TREES ALONG THAT PROPERTY BORDER THAT THAT BUFFER IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE BASE CODE. SO IT IS AN ABOVE AND BEYOND COMMITMENT. THEY'VE ALSO AGREED TO REPLACE THE EXISTING WOOD FENCE BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY LINE AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WITH A NEW EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCE, AND THEY'VE AGREED. WE'VE REORIENTED THE PARKING TO HAVE IT FACE SOUTH TOWARDS THE DUPLEX UNITS, SO THAT THOSE HEADLIGHTS ARE NOT SHINING INTO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS PROPERTIES. THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 8 TO 6. HOWEVER, OUR OUR CLIENT AND COULD NOT AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE OF THE EXPENSE AND THE EFFORT OF THIS THIS ZONING CHANGE IS TO BE ABLE TO GO FROM 6 TO 8 UNITS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE THE FINANCIALS WORK ON THEIR END FOR THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY'VE MADE UNDER BUY. 
          RIGHT. I DID ADD THIS SLIDE JUST SO YOU ALL HAVE A VISUAL. WE CAN GET THREE SINGLE FAMILY 
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LOTS IN THERE TODAY. THEY JUST BARELY MEET THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM. BUT THEY DO MEET THE THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS OF R3. AND THAT WOULD BE THREE DETACHED HOMES PLUS THREE ADUS FOR A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS. THEY THEIR PREFERENCE. MY CLIENT'S PREFERENCE IS THAT THEY BE ABLE TO BUILD HOMES THAT ARE ALL OF THE SAME SIZE AND CHARACTER, RATHER THAN HAVING A MAIN HOUSE, THAT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE LARGER THAN THE ADU, THEY'D PREFER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EVERYBODY FACE THE STREET AND EVERYBODY HAVE A BACKYARD, AND EVERYBODY HAVE DEDICATED PARKING SPACES. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I APPRECIATE 
          YOUR TIME TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. 
          >> WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE A SIMPLE DEFINITION FOR WHAT BI-RITE MEANS? WE HAVE A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OR JUST A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN A NEW STRUCTURE COMES INTO NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE UPSET AND THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN HANDED TO THEM, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS. WOULD YOU PLEASE SHARE WITH THE AUDIENCE WHAT BI-RITE MEANS? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. SO BY RIGHT MEANS THAT THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS ASSIGNED TO THE PROPERTY TODAY ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO GO IN WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS LIKE WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. SO IF THEY WERE TO DEVELOP UNDER R-3 ZONING, THEY COULD GET SIX UNITS IN BY RIGHT MEANING WITHOUT A PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR 
          QUESTION? >> THAT DID ANSWER MY QUESTION BECAUSE AND I'M JUST GOING TO CONNECT IT TO ALL OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE JUST SHOWN UP ALL OF A SUDDEN. 
          AND, AND A LOT OF NEW THINGS HAVE JUST SHOWN UP OUT OF ALL OF A SUDDEN AND PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, A BIT MISINFORMED OR THEY JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. SO SOMETIMES THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT WE SEE THAT COME ON BOARD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER BECAUSE THEY HAVE BY RIGHT. BUT THEN THERE ARE SOME SOMETIMES THINGS LIKE THIS IS COMING TO US WHEN WE WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO ALLOW THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE TO HAPPEN. THAT'S WHEN IT COMES IN FRONT OF US, AND WE MAKE A DECISION PUBLICLY AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THAT. I WANTED THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG, BIG TALKING POINT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST A GREAT IDEA FOR US AS A COMMUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING'S NOT GOING TO BE PERFECT ALL THE TIME IN WHATEVER THEIR WORLD. THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE IN LIKE ME, OF COURSE, I HAVE MY OWN ISSUES. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED APARTMENT COMPLEXES, WE NEED DUPLEXES, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, RENTAL UNITS THAT LOOK LIKE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ASKED FOR. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO JUST BRING IN, FILL IN FILL. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER BIG THING. THERE'S MANY PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE THE SPRAWL. SO THEN YOU TRY TO COME BACK IN AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE FILLING IN APPROPRIATELY. SO THERE'S A BIG PROCESS FOR THIS. I THINK THAT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING 
          THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT. THANKS. >> CAN I CLARIFY ONE THING THAT WAS PART OF OUR CONVERSATION? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MULTIFAMILY IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER R SEVEN ZONING WITHOUT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH IS ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS 
          JUST LIKE THIS. RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          >> AMY, DO YOU KNOW IF THIS ITEM CAME BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING AFTER THE FIRST TIME IN 
          JANUARY. >> IT DID NOT. SO PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY, BUT WE DID EXPRESS SOME COMMITMENT TO THEM THAT WE WOULD MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT BORDERED THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND WORK THROUGH SOME COMMITMENTS WITH THEM THAT WOULD HELP ADDRESS THEIR SPECIFIC CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST IMPACTED. SO AFTER 
          THAT, WE JUST CAME DIRECTLY HERE. >> OKAY. I ASKED THAT BECAUSE WHEN I WATCH TATE INFORMATION. THERE WERE SIX PEOPLE THERE AND IT WAS A FIVE ONE VOTE. THE PERSON WHO VOTED AGAINST, I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY SPOKE DURING THE MEETING. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SPECIFIC CONCERN WAS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH ACCURATE INFORMATION. SO I DID WATCH THE MEETING, AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WAS WHAT Y'ALL DID ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP. A BIG ONE FOR ME WAS THE INDIVIDUAL TO THE NORTH. SO I WAS VERY GLAD TO HEAR WHAT SOLUTIONS Y'ALL CAME UP WITH AND THAT YOU ALL SPENT SO MUCH TIME ADDRESSING THAT CONCERN, BECAUSE I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT, YOU KNOW, HEADLIGHTS 
          SHINING IN MY HOUSE EITHER. >> IT WAS A VALID CONCERN, RIGHT? 
          >> IT WAS VERY VALID. SO SINCE I VISITED THE SITE ON SUNDAY, I NOTICED SEVERAL OF THE TREES APPEAR TO BE VERY DISTRESSED AND JUST TRYING TO HANG ON FOR DEAR LIFE LIKE THEY'RE DYING. 
          DO YOU KNOW IF THE 21 TREES INCLUDED SOME OF THOSE REALLY DISTRESSED TREES? WOULD YOU 
          KNOW THAT? >> I THINK IT PROBABLY INCLUDED EVERY TREE? OKAY, I CAN VERIFY 
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THAT, BUT I JUST KNOWING WHAT THE TREE SURVEY LOOKED LIKE, I BELIEVE IT INCLUDED THEM ALL. 
          >> THE GOOD NEWS IS THE REALLY BAD ONES ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT REALLY THE EDGE, WHICH DOES LOOK LIKE LOOKS LIKE WHERE YOU'RE SAVING IT. SO I'LL BE 
          SUPPORTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME. >> OKAY. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? YOU CAN DO SO AND FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT SEEING NO ONE MOVE. OH, COME ON UP. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE. FOUR. YEAH, I THINK FOUR 
          MINUTES. YES. >> MY NAME IS SAM BUNN. MY ADDRESS IS 2312 BOULEVARD STREET. I AM THE NORTH NEIGHBOR. SO I GUESS I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING AMY AND THE MCADAMS GROUP HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY'VE REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB TO COME OVER AND TALK TO US. THEY SAID THEY'D SEND OUT FORMS AND ALL THAT STUFF. WE NEVER GOT THEM. 
          WE CHECK OUR MAIL DAILY. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS PLANNING COMMITTEE. WE MET THE DEVELOPER PERSONALLY WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. HE NEVER REACHED OUT TO US PERSONALLY. WHEN WE DIDN'T SHOW UP TO THOSE MEETINGS, WE TOLD HIM WE WANTED TO BE PART OF THIS. WE GOT SHUT OUT OF THAT. I MEAN, DON'T GET ME WRONG, THEY DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, RIGHT? BUT WE FELT LIKE WE GOT SLIGHTED ON THAT ONE. OKAY. WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE ORIGINAL PLAN AT THE ZONING COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT WE HAD 16 CARS POINTED AT OUR HOUSE. SO WHEN WE LEARNED REALLY ALL ABOUT ZONING WITHIN R-3 WAS WHEN AN R7 WAS I MEAN, QUITE HONESTLY, MY WIFE AND I, WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY THREE YEARS AGO, RIGHT? WE MAKE LIKE 20 BUCKS AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS TEN YEARS OF SAVING AND DREAMING AND PUSHING OURSELVES TO SACRIFICE EVERYTHING TO BUY THIS HOME. YOU KNOW, I, I TURN WRENCHES FOR A LIVING. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WORK FOR THE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. I VOLUNTEER, AND HERE I AM. WHERE I'M LOOKING AT A COUNCIL WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE, I'M SORRY. I'M, I FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING CROWDED OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUIET, RIGHT? THERE'S SMALL HOUSES ON RELATIVELY LARGE LOTS. WE'D LIKE TO PRESERVE THAT. WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOME, WE BOUGHT OUR HOME NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. WE DIDN'T BUY OUR HOME NEXT TO EIGHT DUPLEXES. YOU KNOW, AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, THAT COULD BE SOLD. SOMEBODY CAN BUILD. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYBODY MAKING MONEY, YOU KNOW? SO THE DEVELOPER, HE WANTS TO BASICALLY CRAM AS MUCH HUMANITY AS POSSIBLE ONTO THAT LOT. RIGHT NOW. I ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT HOW DENTON WANTS TO GROW. HOW ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO BUILD NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE? THERE WAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THAT LOT BEFORE, AND NOW THEY CAN PUT SIX. SO I THINK THAT GOAL HAS BEEN ACHIEVED RIGHT NOW. REZONING AND PUTTING EIGHT IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT THIS MAN CAN EXTRACT AS MUCH PROFIT FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, A NEIGHBORHOOD HE DOESN'T LIVE IN. AND TO BE, QUITE FRANKLY, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NONE OF YOU LIVE IN. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THIS AFFECTS US. AND SO WE'RE SITTING HERE AND WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS TO PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS ZONING. WE BE MUCH HAPPIER WITH SIX UNITS VERSUS EIGHT. THAT'S ALL WE ASK FOR. SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY WANT TWO UNITS. THEY WANT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM. WE'RE LIKE, LISTEN, A COMPROMISE IS WHERE NEITHER PARTIES FULLY HAPPY RIGHT NOW, I GUESS THIS IS AMERICA AND MONEY TALKS. HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. HE'S BEEN PAYING ALL THIS MONEY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND JUST SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO GO WITH IT ALREADY, BUT THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'M SURE IT LOOKS GREAT FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW? BUT I HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO THIS AND I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT IT. I'M VERY HAPPY FOR THE CONCESSIONS. I GUESS A FENCE MAKES GOOD NEIGHBORS. BUT HE'S NOT A NEIGHBOR. HE'S A LANDLORD. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT YES, THAT'S MY TIME. AND I REALLY WANT TO ASK FOR YOU GUYS TO NOT APPROVE THIS. LIKE, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AGAINST THIS. 
          THERE'S NOT A SINGLE NEIGHBOR WHO WANTS THIS TO HAPPEN. I DON'T GET THAT. SO WHAT ARE WE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY? ARE WE ABOUT PROFITS FOR A DEVELOPER? BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS A GOOD 
          TIME TO MAKE A CHOICE, RIGHT? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND YOU FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. 
          >> HELLO. MY NAME IS LIAM JOHN WAKEFIELD. I'VE SPOKEN ON ISSUES LIKE THIS BEFORE. IT IS 
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WHEN THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHY AREN'T DUPLEXES PUT. IT'S SORT OF LIKE THIS. IT'S. 
          ANYTHING THAT'S NOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS SAID NO TO ANYTHING. AND, YOU KNOW, AS A AS A RENTER, AS SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T OWN A HOME, IT SORT OF FEELS, I FEEL SORT OF PUT UPON EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT. IT'S LIKE PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERED THE POLLUTION. IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE DUPLEXES AND THE ADUS AND THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS THAT THERE'S DIRECT BENEFITS FROM BUILDING A DUPLEX, NOT JUST HAVING MORE PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT. 
          THEY ALL LIKE THEY'RE STANDARDIZED. SO THAT SAVES ON COST, TOO. AND THAT'S TWO MORE HOUSEHOLDS THAT CAN LIVE IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND BE MY NEIGHBORS. THEY MAY BE RENTERS, BUT THEY'RE NEIGHBORS. AND I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS, I GUESS, THE REASON WHY I'M A BIT RAW EMOTIONALLY ON THIS IS THAT RENTERS AREN'T NEIGHBORS. I REMEMBER HEARING THAT IT IS. WE NEED PEOPLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY, THAT IT'S INSIDE THE LOOP. IT'S NEAR DOWNTOWN. IT IS IF WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE SPRAWL, IF WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE CAR USAGE, THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO BE BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S WALKABLE DISTANCE FROM COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? NICE, NICE RESTAURANTS NEARBY THERE, RIGHT. NICE AMENITIES NEARBY IT IS WE IF NOT HERE, WHERE IS IT? OUT IN ARGYLE, OUT IN SANGER. WHERE IT. AND WE. SO THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF DENTON HAS BEEN BUILDING HOUSING FOR TWO TIMES IN A ROW. THIS. MY RENT HASN'T GONE UP. BUT BEFORE THEN, EVERY YEAR MY RENT WENT UP. SO I ENJOY MY RENT NOT GOING UP, WHICH MY PAY HASN'T BEEN GOING UP TOO. SO LIKE THE RENT NOT GOING UP KEEPS ME SAFER IN AWAY FROM HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW. I'M ONE EMERGENCY AWAY, RIGHT? IT'S. YOU KNOW, IT IS. THIS HELPS BUILD A COMMUNITY WHERE IT IS. IT'S LIKE YOUR RENTERS CAN BE 
          NEIGHBORS TO. I CONCEDE MY TIME. >> THANKS. AND TO BE FAIR THOUGH, HE DID NOT SAY THAT. 
          OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. BUT I JUST WANT TO I DIDN'T WANT TO READ MORE INTO WHAT HE SAID. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH. COME ON UP. GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. 
          >> HI. MY NAME IS CANDACE DOWNING. I GRADUATED FROM UNT IN 2009. WENT OUT INTO THE WORLD TO TRY AND FIND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU GO LOOKING FOR. AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERY CITY I MOVED TO THAT I ENJOYED REMINDED ME OF DENTON. SO WHEN IT WAS TIME TO FIND A PLACE TO SETTLE DOWN, I IMPORTED FROM CALIFORNIA AND BROUGHT HIM BACK HERE. I TOLD HIM IT WAS A GREAT TOWN, GOOD PLACE TO TO SETTLE ARTSY. GREAT CULTURE CARES ABOUT ITS PEOPLE. 
          IN THE THREE YEARS SINCE WE BOUGHT OUR HOME, WE'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING AT THE HALLOWEEN EVENTS AND TRYING TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. I'VE LIVED IN APARTMENTS FOR A LONG TIME AND STRUGGLED WITH THE DENSITY, THE CRUSH OF HUMANITY AROUND YOU, AND THE DIFFICULTY IN BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS IN A PLACE WHERE YOU ARE THAT CLOSE AND YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE NEAR YOU. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO ABOUT OWNING A HOME WAS MAKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH MY NEIGHBORS, AND I'VE DONE THAT WITH A FEW OF THEM. AND I JUST, I KNOW THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING AND THREE DUPLEXES CAN GO ON THERE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S SIX FAMILIES I CAN TRY AND MAKE RELATIONSHIPS WITH GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS TO GET TWO MORE BUILT, LIKE TWO MORE HOUSEHOLDS IN THERE FEELS LIKE SUCH A REACH OF MONEY GRUBBING AND PROFITEERING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S SO MUCH HUBBUB TO GET TWO MORE FAMILIES ON THERE FOR SOME MONEY, WHEN THE PEOPLE AROUND US ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND THIS OTHER GUY'S NEED FOR NEW HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          I CAN WALK WITHIN A COUPLE MILES AND FIND HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW. 
          I DO FEEL LIKE THERE'S A WORRY ABOUT WHAT MAYOR HUDSPETH SAID IS, IF WE APPROVE THE ZONING, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. THAT CREATES A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY FOR OUR PROPERTY AND OUR ABILITY TO ENJOY IT. I HAVE A GARDEN IN THE BACK. CARS, EVEN IF THEY'RE PARKED FACING THE OTHER WAY, ARE GOING TO PUT EXHAUST IN THE AIR. WE HAVE A DUPLEX BEHIND US. WE KNEW THAT WHEN WE MOVED IN, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF COMPROMISED ON WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR A HOME. WE STRUGGLE WITH PEOPLE TREATING IT LIKE A PARKING LOT. THEY HANG OUT, TURN THE MUSIC UP LOUD, LET THE CAR RUN, HANG OUT IN THE AIR CONDITIONING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO INSIDE, OR IT'S JUST TREATED LIKE A PARKING LOT. 
          IT'S NOT A HOME. IT'S NOT DRIVEWAYS AND WAVING. HEIDI OR NEIGHBORS. WE HAVE THE 
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CONCESSION OF A FENCE, AND ALL THAT DOES IS SEPARATE US EVEN MORE FROM THAT PROPERTY AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE FRIENDS. I DON'T SEE EVEN WHAT IT'S ZONED FOR BEING SUPER PLEASANT, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS HOME, AND NOW IT'S BEING FLIPPED ON US. I'M VERY NERVOUS, SO SORRY I'M RAMBLING ON A LITTLE BIT. I REALLY, REALLY HOPE YOU GUYS DON'T APPROVE THIS. THREE UNITS DUPLEXES. THAT'S NOT THREE FAMILIES. THAT'S SIX FAMILIES IS ALREADY A LOT TO TRY AND MANAGE. AND THEN THERE'S THE ADDITION OF OVERNIGHT STAYS, AIRBNBS. WE HAVE A PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET THAT HAS AN AIRBNB WHERE THEY LISTED THE WRONG ADDRESS ON PURPOSE, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT THE UNIT WAS. GOOGLE DROPPED THAT PIN OVER OUR HOUSE 1:00 IN THE MORNING. 
          WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE COMING TO OUR DOOR ASKING IF WE'RE THE AIRBNB. IT'S VERY UNPLEASANT. 
          IT DOESN'T FEEL SAFE. AND I WONDER HOW MANY OF THESE UNITS ARE GOING TO GET TURNED INTO AIRBNBS. HOW LONG ARE PEOPLE GOING TO STAY IN THESE SIX MONTH LEASES, YEAR LONG LEASES? I KNOW THAT RENTERS ARE NEIGHBORS. I'VE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT RENTAL NEIGHBORS, BUT PEOPLE TEND TO TREAT THE PROPERTY DIFFERENTLY WHEN THEY DON'T OWN IT. GETTING CLOSE TO 
          MY TIME AND I'M GOOD THERE, I THINK. THANK YOU GUYS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. AND SO ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AS A PUBLIC HEARING, COME ON UP. GIVE YOUR NAME. 
          YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ESAU REYES. I AM I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. I JUST WANT TO BE BRIEF AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF WHO I AM AND WHO WE ARE. I AM PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH WITH MY PARENTS AND BUSINESS PARTNERS. 
          I HAVE WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF DENTON FOR 40 YEARS. WE ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. I GREW UP, I WAS BORN AND RAISED JUST RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AT DENTON PRESBYTERIAN. I DID ALL MY SCHOOLING HERE IN DENTON ALONG WITH MY SISTER. I GOT MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS. WE HAVE SEEN THIS COMMUNITY GROW. WE USED TO CALL IT A TOWN, AND NOW WE SEE IT AS A THRIVING CITY. DEVELOPMENT IS HERE DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE NOT GETTING AWAY FROM IT. RIGHT? WE WE LOVE THIS, THIS CITY AS MUCH AS THE REST OF OUR NEIGHBORS. WHAT, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A DIFFERENT OPTION FOR HOUSING BESIDES THOSE APARTMENTS THAT WE SEE COMING UP, BESIDES GIVING, GIVING PEOPLE A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT CAPABILITY, A DIFFERENT WAY OF, OF LIVING SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVACY, SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN JUST MASS CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? WE ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND WE ARE LOCAL, RIGHT? WE'VE HEARD FROM FROM LARRY LAWRENCE TODAY. WE'VE HEARD FROM, FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WITH, WITH ENTREPRENEURS WEEK. AND WE, WE THINK THERE'S MERIT IN KEEPING DENTON DOLLARS IN DENTON. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A BIG DEVELOPER. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT BUILDING HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES. WE JUST WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE A FAMILY THAT SAW AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> OKAY. SO FIRST, LET ME GET, LET ME MAKE SURE THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS SO I CAN CLOSE THIS. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THEY WANT TO SPEAK. COME ON UP. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. FOUR MINUTES. 
          SORRY. >> I DON'T NEED THAT MUCH TIME. MY NAME IS DENISE GALETTA. I LIVE ON. I LIVE ON BOLIVAR. I MOVED HERE LAST YEAR. MY DAUGHTER LOVED DENTON. SHE SHE GOT ME TO MOVE UP HERE. AND I REALLY LIKE THE STREET THAT I'M ON. AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE. NOW I WHEN WHEN THEY SAY ABOUT FOUR UNITS, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FIT THAT ON THERE. I HOPE THEY GET THE COMPROMISE OF THE THREE UNITS. 
          I LIVE NEAR THAT BIG OTHER BUILDING THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO THE AIRBNB. AND IT'S BOLIVAR IS SUCH A NICE STREET AND I JUST HATE TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST KIND OF FOLD UP AND CHANGE. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A COMPROMISE WHERE WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY. I NEVER HEARD ABOUT OTHER MEETINGS EITHER, SO I'VE BEEN LIKE, I WAS HERE IN JANUARY AND THEN I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL I MET MY NEIGHBOR THE OTHER DAY. SO I'M JUST HOPING WE CAN COMPROMISE AND KEEP ALL OF OUR. I MEAN, IT HAS THAT NICE FLAVOR OF MAYBE OLDER DENTON THAT'S CHANGING, BUT IT'S A REALLY NICE STREET AND I LIKE LIVING HERE AND I HOPE I CAN STAY. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE CAN SPEAK. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU CAN COME DOWN AND SPEAK, FILL OUT A CARD AFTER THE FACT, SEEING NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. 
          >> THANKS, MAYOR. AMY, I'VE GOT ONE FOR YOU. SINCE THE DOOR WAS OPEN. I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH 
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IT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO POTENTIAL PRICE POINTS? ARE YOU THAT FAR IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS YET? 
          DO THEY KNOW? >> I CANNOT SPEAK TO POTENTIAL PRICE POINTS, BUT I CAN 
          POTENTIALLY GET THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SPEAK TO IT. DO WE? >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          >> YEAH, I'M THAT'S MY EXACT QUESTION. BOTH OF Y'ALL MENTIONED AFFORDABLE. SO 
          QUANTIFY THAT. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> THEY ARE NOT FAR ENOUGH IN 
          THE PROCESS THAT THEY'VE SET PRICING. SO I'M SORRY. >> WELL, GO AHEAD BECAUSE I'M A 
          I'M GOING TO TRY TO CALM DOWN. >> GO AHEAD. YOU WANT TO GET IT. YOU WANT ME. 
          >> TO GET IT? NO. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. OKAY. AMY, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, AS YOU ALWAYS DO. BUT THIS THIS MAKES THIS A MORE DIFFICULT VOTE THAN IT SHOULD BE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN PEOPLE COME TO US AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS, IT'S OUR JOB TO ADDRESS CONCERNS. AND WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY BEING TOLD IS THAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO SQUEEZE TWO MORE UNITS SO YOU CAN SQUEEZE EVERY DROP OF JUICE OUT OF OUT OF FRUIT, RIGHT? IF YOU HAD POTENTIAL PRICE POINTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SELL THESE UNITS FOR, THEN WE COULD SAY, HEY, YOU ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPERS. YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT. BUT WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO THINK. NOW, I HAVE NO, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING ANYTHING NEFARIOUS. OBVIOUSLY, I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS GOOD. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE ALL AGREE WITH RENTERS BEING OUR NEIGHBORS. RIGHT. I GOT ELECTED TO THIS SEAT AS A RENTER. SO YES, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A RENTAL. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I WISH YOU ALL HAD SOME IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO RENT THESE FOR. IT WOULD MAKE THIS PROCESS A LOT EASIER FOR US. YOU STOOD BEFORE US SEVERAL TIMES AND YOU KNOW HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS. I GUESS I'LL JUST LEAVE IT. I'M DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET WITHOUT YOU ALL KNOWING. 
          >> I THINK PART OF THAT IS THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPERS, SO THEY DON'T HAVE A HISTORY OF, OKAY, WE KNOW THAT THIS CAN RENT FOR THIS. WE KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS. THIS IS THERE. THIS IS A NEW INVESTMENT AND A NEW ENDEAVOR. AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LEARNING ALONG THE WAY, 
          I THINK. >> VERY RESPECTFUL OF THAT. BUT YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. SURELY WHEN THEY CAME AND SAT DOWN IN YOUR OFFICE, YOU SAID, HEY, HERE, HERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL PRICE POINTS. IF YOU DO SIX, YOU CAN MAYBE RENT THEM FOR THIS. IF YOU DO SEVEN, YOU 
          CAN HAVE THIS. IF YOU DO EIGHT, YOU CAN HAVE THIS. >> WE DID NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. OUR CONVERSATION WAS, HERE'S THE SIZE OF THE LOT. THEY ORIGINALLY CAME TO US WITH THE IDEA OF DOING SOME QUADPLEXES AND DUPLEXES. WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE ZONING THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY AND THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS OF OTHER OPTIONS, AND DETERMINED THAT THE BEST THEY COULD DO IN TERMS OF BUILDING UNITS ON THAT LOT WOULD BE FOR DUPLEXES. BUT JUST BASED ON THE THE CONSTRAINTS OF ZONING, WE PRESENTED A FEW DIFFERENT ZONING OPTIONS TO THEM. WE PRESENTED GOING WITH OUR SEVEN WITH AN SUP TO ALLOW ALL OF THEM TO BE ON ONE LOT. 
          AND THAT MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF MORE, BUT THEY CHOSE NOT TO GO THAT ROUTE. SO WE WENT WITH A ZONING THAT WE FELT LIKE WAS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE 
          EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. >> I HEAR YOU. GOSH, I AGAIN, I'M DISAPPOINTED. I DON'T TYPICALLY DO TOO MANY THINGS, UNDERTAKE VENTURES THIS LARGE WITHOUT EXACTLY KNOWING WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT. YEAH. THANKS, MAYOR. 
          >> OKAY. YEAH, I'M GOING TO BE VERY CONCISE BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET GOING. AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, FOR ITEM SIX, A HAZARD TO GUESS MOST OF Y'ALL. THAT'S NEXT. I NEED THE BLUE CARDS IN HAND BEFORE I CALL ITEM. IF ONCE I CALL THE ITEM, WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING BLUE CARDS. 
          AND NO, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK. SO IF YOU WOULD CARE TO SPEAK ON SIX, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND FILL THOSE OUT. GET THOSE TURNED IN BECAUSE THAT IS NEXT. THAT SAID, AMY, YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN YOUR PRESENTATION. ESAU CAME UP SPECIFICALLY AND SAID, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS GROUP, THIS BODY HAS TALKED ABOUT IT. AND, YOU KNOW, TO NO END THAT JESSE HAS DONE THE MATH, THAT 60% AMI IS AFFORDABLE IN DENTON. ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH AFFORDABLE TO DALLAS VERSUS AFFORDABLE IN DENTON. 
          WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION FOR AT LEAST THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, AND FOR YOU TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SAY AFFORDABLE, KNOWING WHAT IT MEANS, KNOWING WE HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION FOR DENTON AND THEN NOT KNOWING A NUMBER. THAT'S DISINGENUOUS TO ME IS. 
          >> NOT INTENDED TO BE. >> BUT YOU CAN'T JUST THROW WORDS AROUND LIKE THAT SAYING, HEY, VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT BECAUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THE HOUSING IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE. THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION I WROTE DOWN. HOW MUCH? 
          >> YEAH, FRUSTRATING. >> AND I'M WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING. I DO SEE AN ISSUE WITH STAFF DOESN'T SEE IT, BUT I SEE IT BECAUSE 
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HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS. NOW THAT'S R7. NOW THEIR HOUSE, WHEN THEY GO TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, SAYS YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH MORE. SO NOW THEY GET TAXED OUT OF THEIR HOME. THEN IT JUST IT WORKS DOWN ITS WAY. AND IF AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, GO LOOK AT AN OLD MAP AND LOOK AT SKINNER STREET. SKINNER STREET USED TO HAVE HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES. AND THEN ONE BY ONE THAT WENT AWAY AND MORRIS AND MILTON BOUGHT THEM ALL. AND NOW THEY'RE ALL GONE AND THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK. SO YOU CAN GET. BECAUSE IN YOUR NARRATIVE IT OUTLINES THAT YOU CAN DO. AND WE'VE BEEN INTENTIONAL ABOUT ADUS AND WE'VE BEEN INTENTIONAL ABOUT THOSE, THOSE THINGS. SO I THINK YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THE SIX AND I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TEN YEARS FROM NOW OR A MONTH FROM NOW, YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND BECAUSE THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO. I'M NOT, THEY'RE NOT. WE CAN'T MAKE THEM BUILD ANYTHING. SO THEY COULD GET A ZONING FOR R7 AND SELL IT. 
          IT HAPPENS AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE COMPLICIT IN THAT. AND SO I THINK THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORS. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE VOTES, BUT I'M IN. SO 
          GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> I, I WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE OF MY CLIENT HERE FOR A MOMENT IN, IN THE EVENT THAT THIS IS GOING TOWARDS A DENIAL, THEY WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT, TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, RATHER THAN JUST THIS BEING THE FINAL 
          VOTE. >> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROJECT THAT. MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          >> APPRECIATE IT. JUST SPEAKING TO THE AFFORDABILITY ITEM, WHILE THESE MAY NOT BE AFFORDABLE IN THE 30% AM I TYPE OF THING, IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE THAN BUILDING A HOUSE AT THIS LOCATION. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED FOR, BUT I SAW THAT THE ASKING PRICE WHEN IT WAS FOR SALE WAS ABOUT 150,001 60, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF YOU BUILD ONE HOME ON IT, ACTUALLY BEFORE YOU BUILD A HOME, YOU ALREADY $150,000. AND SO PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT ON A VERY LOW END HOME, TEENY TINY FOR TODAY'S STANDARDS, 1300 SQUARE FOOT HOME, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $355,000 HOME FOR A 1300 SQUARE FOOT HOME ESTIMATE BETWEEN THE LAND AND THE COST. SO BY SUBDIVIDING IT INTO 4 OR 3 LOTS, YOU'RE BRINGING THE COST, THE LAND COST PER UNIT DOWN, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO OFFER THE RENT AT A AT A LOWER PRICE POINT. 
          THE MORE UNITS YOU SPREAD THE LAND COST ACROSS. SO, YOU KNOW, FOUR UNIT OR FOUR LOTS, IT SPREADS THE THE LAND COST AMONGST FOUR PROPERTIES, EIGHT UNITS, WHICH BRINGS DOWN THE TOTAL COST AND THE TOTAL RENT ULTIMATELY PER UNIT. IF IT'S THREE LOTS INSTEAD, THAT WILL BE A MORE EXPENSIVE RENT. ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE THE LAND VALUE WILL BE SPREAD ACROSS FEWER PROPERTIES. SO IT'S MORE LAND THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THROUGH THE RENT. SO FEWER HOUSING UNITS IN THIS CASE WILL BE A HIGHER COST OVERALL. AND CERTAINLY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME 
          WILL BE COMPLETELY >> THE UNAFFORDABLE FOR MOST PEOPLE IN DENTON. I JUST WANTED 
          TO CLARIFY THAT. >> CAN. CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH THAT WITH A QUESTION? UNDERSTANDING. WE CAN'T REGULATE THAT UNDERSTANDING. WE CAN'T SET THAT PRICE. HOW CAN YOU CONFIDENTLY COMMUNICATE TO THOSE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED THAT YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE? THEY COULD BE THEY COULD BE LUXURY. THEY COULD ADD AMENITIES. THEY COULD THE THE RATE COULD, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU IN CONFIDENCE PROJECT PROJECT 
          PREDICT THAT HAVING NO CONTROL OVER IT. >> ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE COST OF THE LAND AND THE CONSTRUCTION PUT TOGETHER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE RENT THAT'S SO LOW THAT YOU LOSE MONEY, BECAUSE WHO WOULD DO THAT? RIGHT? SO COULD THEY GO HIGHER? YES THEY CAN, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEES. THERE'S NO GUARANTEES. ANYTIME WE ALLOW A HOME TO BE BUILT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SUPER HIGH PRICE POINT. SO IT'S REALLY WHATEVER PEOPLE CAN PAY. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH A 
          LOWER RENT IF THE COST DOES NOT ALLOW IT. OKAY. YEAH. >> REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT SIX. 
          >> AFTER HEARING WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT AND SEEING WHAT I'VE SEEN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME TO TABLE THIS, TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO HAVE TIME TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND SEE IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF ACCOMMODATION THAT CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS OR, OR LOOK AT THE DESIGN. ET-CETERA. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AT THIS 
          TIME. >> IS THERE A SECOND MAYOR? >> I'LL SECOND. 
          >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER TO POSTPONE SECOND BY COUNCIL 
          MEMBER MCGEE. >> DISCUSSION. >> DISCUSSION. YOU STILL HAVE 
          THE FLOOR, COUNCILMAN JESTER, IF YOU'D LIKE. YOU COULD. >> JUST THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE'S COMING TO THE TABLE IN GOOD FAITH. I. I DON'T KNOW THAT I THINK THIS IS GOING TO PASS NECESSARILY SHOULD PASS IN ITS CURRENT STATE. AND SO I THINK WHEN WE HAVE PARTIES WILLING TO COME TOGETHER AND DISCUSS, WHY NOT GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY IF BOTH SIDES ARE 
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ASKING FOR THAT PAUSE? SO THAT IS WHY I I'M I'M WILLING TO MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. >> MY HOPE IS THAT. AND YES, THANK YOU FOR FINDING THE MIDDLE GROUND. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. I'M SECOND IN BECAUSE I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU ALL COME BACK, YOU'LL HAVE A NUMBER. IF IF I'M IN THIS, I'M IN THE SEAT. WHEN YOU ALL COME BACK AND YOU DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, I WILL VOTE NO. I WANT TO BE VERY HONEST WITH THE COMMUNITY. I'M FINE WITH THE ZONING CHANGE. BUT WHAT REALLY THREW ME OFF IS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A NUMBER. 
          I DON'T JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU UNDERTOOK A PROJECT THIS THIS VAST WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM EACH RENTAL UNIT, THAT DISAPPOINTS ME GREATLY. 
          GENERALLY, I'M IN FAVOR OF OF HOUSING. INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS. 
          AS I SAID, I GOT ELECTED TO THE SEAT AS A RENTER, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE. I'M GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS. I HOPE THAT I LEAVE A LEGACY OF CREATING MORE DUPLEXES AND TOWNHOMES WHILE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. HAVING SAID THAT, YOU GOT TO HAVE A NUMBER. 
          >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE 
          SCREEN. THIS IS. THAT IS CORRECT, MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. >> ARE WE PUTTING IS THE MOTION TO THE DATE CERTAIN OR A DATE UNCERTAIN? BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T SPECIFY IT. 
          >> I DID NOT SPECIFY. AND IT'S A DATE UNCERTAIN. I DON'T I DID NOT SEE THE NEED TO HAVE A DATE CERTAIN. SO IF THEY WANT TO TAKE IT FOR A YEAR, IF THEY WANT TO TAKE IT FOR A MONTH, 
          THAT IS NOT PART OF MY MOTION. >> OH, OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS IS TO POSTPONE. POSTPONE. YES OR NO? VOTE ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE. 
          THAT PASSES SIX. >> I VOTED DIDN'T TAKE. >> OKAY. IF YOU CAN SET IT BACK UP AGAIN. THAT'S COUNCILMEMBER JESTER MOTION AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MCGEE. 
          >> I KNOW. >> VOTE ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES 
          [A. ID 26-0757 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, approving and authorizing the City Manager to execute a lease agreement with the Denton City Federation of Women’s Clubs for approximately 18,000 square feet of land located at 610 Oakland Street, situated in Quakertown Park, for a twenty year initial term with two ten year renewals; and providing an effective date.]
US TO OUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. FIRST IS ITEM SIX A I'D 260757. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON. APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE DENTON CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS FOR THE APPROXIMATELY 1800 18,000FT■!S F LAND LOCATED AT 610 OAKLAND STREET, SITUATED AT. IN OAKLAND. 
          PARDON ME, QUAKERTOWN PARK FOR 20 YEAR INITIAL TERM WITH 210 YEAR RENEWALS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          >> SORRY, IT DOESN'T WANT TO OPEN ONE MOMENT. 
          IT'S JUST. THERE, I GOT IT. >> I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE A 
          BUTTON GETTING PRESSED THERE. >> OH, FOR MY PAPER. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          CHRISTINE TAYLOR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK THROUGH THE PROPOSED GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DENTON AND THE DENTON CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUB. SO CURRENT CONDITIONS. THE CITY CURRENTLY HOLDS A LAND LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE DENTON CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS. THE LEASE WAS ORIGINALLY EXECUTED IN 1927 FOR A TOTAL OF $1 FOR THE FULL TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS 99 YEARS AND SET TO EXPIRE THIS AUGUST. THE FEDERATION CONSTRUCTED THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING AS A CIVIC, CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL GATHERING SPACE, AND THE BUILDING IS LOCATED WITHIN QUAKER TOWN PARK AND IS DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK. PRIOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THE I. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, COUNCIL HELD A WORK SESSION TO EXPLORE WAYS TO COMMEMORATE THE FORMER QUAKER TOWN RESIDENTS. SEVERAL ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED DURING THIS PRESENTATION ON HOW TO 
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INCORPORATE MEMORIALS. A LIVING MUSEUM WAS TALKED ABOUT. MEMORIAL MARKERS IN THE PARK, A HEALING GARDEN. SEVERAL TOPICS WERE DISCUSSED AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL DIRECTION WAS PROVIDED TO INCORPORATE MEMORIAL ELEMENTS INTO THE DESIGN. DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN IN 2024, THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED AND FOCUSED ON REDESIGN OF QUAKER TOWN PARK TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE LAYERED HISTORY, BUT POINTING OUT THAT IT DID NOT INCLUDE USE OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING AS A MUSEUM SPACE, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED IN 2022. SO THIS AGREEMENT TODAY IS BASED ON DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WITH GOALS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE THE AGREEMENT FROM THE 20S AND CLARIFY ITEMS IN A NEW EXISTING LEASE. SO THE PROPOSED LEASE IS DRAFTED USING FRAMEWORK TO BALANCE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, FOCUSED ON MISSIONS AND GOALS, AND THEN MAKE VERY CLEAR CHOICES AND DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE DECISION MAKERS, WHICH WOULD BE COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE TERMS. SO THE TERM INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT IS AN INITIAL 20 YEAR LEASE WITH 210 YEAR OPTIONAL RENEWALS. EACH OF THOSE OPTIONAL RENEWALS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE FUTURE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL. THIS WOULD GIVE THE AGREEMENT A POTENTIAL 40 YEAR TERM. ONE KEY CHANGE, AND THE LEASE FROM THE 1920S TO THE PROPOSED LEASE IS A. REDUCING THE FOOTPRINT FROM AROUND APPROXIMATELY 29,000FT■!S TO 18,000FT■!S. THE MAJOR CHANGE IN THIS FOOTPRINT IS THE LAND RIGHT UNDER THE BUILDING, AND IT REMOVES HAS NO EXCLUSIVE PARKING. SO PARKING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT PRIOR LEASE NOW BECOMES PUBLIC PARKING. WE DID A LAND VALUATION OF FAIR MARKET VALUE. ONE MAJOR KEY CHANGE FROM THE 1927 LEASE TO NOW IS THE FAIR MARKET VALUE IS APPROXIMATELY $27,720 A YEAR. THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO MAKE UP THIS FAIR MARKET VALUE. SO THE FEDERATION WILL PAY AN ANNUAL RENT OF $1,320, WITH A CPI ADJUSTMENT EVERY FIVE YEARS. THE SECOND COMPONENT TO MEET THAT FAIR MARKET VALUE IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT PORTION THAT WOULD PROVIDE IN-KIND. THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE 24 FULL DAY RENTALS ANNUALLY. THIS CAN BE FOR MUNICIPAL USE OR CITY SPONSORED EVENTS, SO THE CITY CAN CONDUCT PROGRAMING THROUGH PARKS AND REC THROUGH LIBRARIES, OR WE CAN OFFER THOSE UP AS IN-KIND FOR CITY SPONSORED EVENTS SUCH AS HISTORY LECTURES, WHATEVER TYPE OF PROGRAMING THE CITY WANTS, WE'LL HAVE 24 FULL DAY RENTALS. AN ADDITIONAL KEY TERM IS A HISTORICAL MARKER WILL BE INSTALLED WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE LEASE COMMENCEMENT. SO AGAIN, THIS LEASE IS REALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT IS THE PUBLIC PURPOSE. AND WE HAVE DEFINED THIS IN THE AGREEMENT THROUGH THE MISSION AND GOALS OF THE FEDERATION. THE FEDERATION OPERATES AS A NONPROFIT FOR EXCLUSIVELY FOR CHARITABLE, EDUCATIONAL AND LITERARY PURPOSES IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE OUTLINED DETAILED GOALS IN THE AGREEMENT, AND THE MISSION OF THEIR CLUB IS TO FURTHER THE COMMON GOOD AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE DENTON COMMUNITY BY PROMOTING BROADER CULTURAL CULTURE AND THE MUTUAL IMPROVEMENT OF PUBLIC AND LITERATURE, MUSIC AND ART. 
          ANOTHER IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THIS PROPOSED LEASE IS ANNUAL GOALS THAT THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET. THE FEDERATION WILL PRESENT NO FEWER THAN THREE PUBLIC PROGRAMING ANNUALLY THAT PROMOTE CULTURAL ENRICHMENT IN THE DENTON COMMUNITY. THIS CAN INCLUDE, AS WE DISCUSSED, LECTURES, PERFORMANCES OR EDUCATIONAL EVENTS HELD AT THE BUILDING AND ARE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. ALSO, COMMUNITY FUNDRAISING AND BUILDING STEWARDSHIP IS PART OF THEIR MISSION AND GOALS THAT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET. SO THE FEDERATION WILL CONDUCT FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES IN SUPPORT OF THE PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDING. THEY ALREADY HOST SEVERAL OF THESE THINGS AND PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES INCLUDE PARTICIPATION IN DENTON ARTS AND JAZZ FESTIVAL, THE FOOTLIGHT FUNDRAISING SERIES WHERE THEY HOST NUMEROUS EVENTS IN THEIR BUILDING. WITH THOSE PROFITS GOING TOWARDS THE NON-PROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY, DENTON HOLIDAY LIGHTING AND OTHER EVENTS DESIGNATED TO GENERATE COMMUNITY SUPPORT. THE AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDES REPORTING REQUIREMENT, WHERE THEY WILL ANNUALLY SUBMIT A REPORT TO THE CITY, WHICH WILL COME BEFORE THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND BEAUTIFICATION BOARD TO DEMONSTRATE HOW THEY'RE MEETING THEIR ANNUAL GOALS OF THE PRIOR YEAR, WHAT'S THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THE CAPITAL PLAN, AS WELL AS THE FEDERATION'S PLANS FOR THE NEXT YEAR? ONE BIG PART OF THE PRIOR AGREEMENT FROM THE 20S IS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF AMBIGUITY IN THE AGREEMENT OF WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END. AND SO THIS AGREEMENT THAT IS PROPOSED THIS EVENING INCLUDES VERY CLEAR OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE COUNCIL. AND WE HAVE A TERM IN THERE THAT ONE YEAR PRIOR TO ANY TERMINATION PERIOD, THE CITY THE OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE COUNCIL ARE THE CITY AND THE FEDERATION CAN AGREE ON A NEW LEASE. THE FEDERATION MAY REMOVE THE BUILDING FROM THE SITE OR THE CITY MAY PURCHASE THE BUILDING AT FAIR MARKET VALUE. IF NONE OF THOSE ITEMS OCCUR WITHIN 180 DAYS AFTER EXPIRATION, THE CITY HAS THE OPTION TO TRANSFER THE 
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OWNERSHIP OF THE BUILDING OR TAKE OWNERSHIP OR THE CITY TAKE OWNERSHIP IF THE FEDERATION DISSOLVES AT ANY POINT DURING THE CURRENT DURING THE PROPOSED LEASE OR IS IN DEFAULT, THE BUILDING MAY TRANSFER TO A SUCCESSOR NONPROFIT, WHICH WOULD BE SELECTED BY THE CITY. 
          OUR RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING IS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE DENTON CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS FOR APPROXIMATELY 183 18,000FT■!S FOR THE LAND LOCATED ON 610 OAKLAND STREET, WHICH IS SITUATED WITHIN QUAKER TOWN PARK FOR THE 20 YEAR INITIAL TERM WITH 210 YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ALSO WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT KAREN RIGGS FROM THE DENTON WOMEN'S FEDERATION IS HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS ALSO. 
          >> AND SO JUST ONE CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE GO. I HAVE SEVERAL BLUE CARDS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS. HOW DID WE COME TO STAFF RECOMMENDING THESE THINGS? 
          >> WE WORKED THROUGH A SERIES. IT'S TREATED AS A REAL ESTATE ITEM, SO WE HELD CLOSED SESSION MEETINGS TO DISCUSS IT. BUT THE TERM OPTIONS ARE BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          >> THANK YOU. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. OKAY, SO. TRYING TO THINK QUESTIONS FOR STAFF INITIALLY. AND THEN WE'LL START WITH THE CARDS. SO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          >> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY SOME STUFF. WHO PAID TO CONSTRUCT THE 
          BUILDING? >> ORIGINALLY THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED BY THE WOMEN'S 
          FEDERATION. >> SO THEY PAID FOR IT. WHO WHO HAS PAID TO MAINTAIN THE 
          BUILDING OVER THE PAST 99 YEARS? >> THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION. >> SO THE CITY DID NOT PAY TO CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING OR TO MAINTAIN THE BUILDING. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT 
          NOW. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. 
          >> YEAH, I'VE JUST GOT ONE RIGHT NOW. SO 24 DAYS OF PROGRAMING THAT WE CAN HAVE. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S A CONFLICT WITH SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO? 
          >> WE'VE TALKED THROUGH THAT. WE'VE PUT IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WITHIN 60 DAYS OF EXECUTION OF THIS AGREEMENT, WE WILL WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO OUTLINE TERMS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO SELECT THE DAYS BUILD IN FLEXIBILITY. OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT SUCH TIGHT PARAMETERS THAT IT INTERFERES WITH A PAID RENTAL FOR THEM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY ON SELECTING THOSE AND PROGRAMING THEM. AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT 24 IN-KIND DAYS, THE CITY, WE CAN PROGRAM THOSE HOWEVER WE WANT FOR LECTURES, IN-KIND USE, 
          CITY SPONSORED EVENTS. >> THANK YOU. >> KRISTI REPRESENTATIVE 
          DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU REMIND US WHEN THE ACTUAL LEASE 
          EXPIRATION IS THE DATE? >> YES, IT IS AUGUST 6TH, 2026 THIS AUGUST. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I JUST HAVE ONE. YOU MENTIONED THE WE STARTED COMMUNICATION IN 2022, CORRECT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT HOW THAT WAS THAT NOTICE WAS PROVIDED OR SENT OR DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT? 
          >> I DO THAT FIRST ENGAGEMENT TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAYS CAN WE DO. THE COMMEMORATION OF FORMER RESIDENTS OF QUAKER TOWN BEGAN IN 2022. THAT CONVERSATION STARTED WITH CITY STAFF AND THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION, AND THEN WE STARTED TO RECEIVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THEN THAT WAS HELD 
          AS A CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2022. >> SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 
          NOTICED IN THE NORMAL. WE SEND OUT ALL. >> THE AGENDA. YEAH. CORRECT. 
          AND THEN STREAMED AND ARCHIVED. >> OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR. 
          >> YEAH. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DAYS OR PARTS OF DAYS THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING IS USED 
          PER YEAR? >> I DO, THEY HAD 53 RENTALS IN THE LAST YEAR. SO HOWEVER MANY 
          THAT IS. >> ROUGHLY ONCE A WEEK. >> RIGHT. THEY THEY DO VARIOUS PROGRAMING. AND KAREN IS HERE WHO CAN SPEAK ON THAT. BUT IT IS USED FOR A MIX OF PRIVATE 
          RENTALS AND THEN NONPROFIT USE TOO. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY. GREAT. SEEING. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. FIRST SPEAKER IS SEAN TREAT. IF YOU CAN COME 
          DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> .3.36. 
          >> THANKS. YEAH, >> YEAH YEAH. RIGHT. >> IT'S ON THERE SOMEWHERE. 
          >> THREE MONTHS. >> HI SEAN TREAT DENTON. LOCAL. NOTEWORTHY. TODAY'S VOTE ON THE 1928 WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING LEASE IS TAKING PLACE EXACTLY ONE MONTH AFTER THE 105TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE VOTE TO REMOVE QUAKERTOWN ON APRIL 5TH, 1921. IN THAT CITY WIDE ELECTION, THE FORCED REMOVAL OF THE QUAKER AFRICAN AMERICAN DISTRICT NARROWLY PASSED BY ONLY 127 VOTES. A MERE 4% OF REGISTERED VOTERS OF THAT TIME. THAT STOLEN LAND WAS TAKEN USING THE LAWS UNDER JIM CROW LAWS THAT DENIED BLACK CITIZENS A VOTE OR A VOICE IN THAT HEIST, AND EVEN EXCLUDED THEM FROM THE CITY PARK THAT TODAY BEARS THEIR NAME. TONIGHT, Y'ALL ARE HAVING A VERY DIFFERENT VOTE HERE IN CITY CHAMBERS. BUT I HOPE THE WEIGHT OF THIS TIMELY OCCASION IS INDEED FELT BY ALL PRESENT AND UNLIKELY SURPRISE A FEW FOLKS TONIGHT BY NOT 
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DELIVERING A HISTORY LECTURE. ALSO, I'M NOT ENTIRELY OPPOSED TO THIS LEGAL LEASE BETWEEN THE CITY AND WOMEN'S CLUB WITH THE QUALIFYING. YES, BUT IF I'M HERE TO URGE CITY COUNCIL TO TABLE TONIGHT'S VOTE ON THIS NEW LEGAL CONTRACT FOR THE 1928 WOMEN'S CLUBHOUSE THAT JUST CAME OUT OF THE KITCHEN A FEW DAYS AGO, A VOTE TO TEMPORARILY TABLE A DECISION ON THIS LEASE WOULD ALLOW CIVIC DIALOG ON RESTORATIVE JUSTICE THAT CAN LEAD FROM HURT TO HEALING AND TOWARDS NECESSARY RECONCILIATION BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORS. THIS NEEDED DIALOG HAS BEEN OVER 100 YEARS IN THE MAKING, AND TO BE CLEAR, NO ONE INVOLVED IS HERE TONIGHT TO BLAME FOR INJUSTICES FROM 100 YEARS AGO. BUT WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WE DO OR DO NOT DO HERE AND NOW. SO LET'S NOT MAKE TIME OUR ENEMY. SO HISTORY IS INSTRUCTIVE. THE 1960S, THEN WOMEN'S INTERRACIAL FELLOWSHIP SHOWED US THE PATH WE MUST TAKE TOGETHER. IF YOU ARE CITY COUNCIL, ENABLE SOME TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AS SPIKE LEE SAID, THE RIGHT WAY. 
          TIME TO LISTEN TOGETHER. TIME TO TALK TOGETHER. TIME TO CREATE THE INCLUSIVE UNITED COMMUNITIES OF DENTON NEIGHBORS THAT EVERYONE HERE TRULY WANTS TOGETHER. I TRULY BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU BEHIND THE DESK WANTS TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR DENTON. ALL OF YOU PUT IN COUNTLESS WORK HOURS CAMPAIGNING AND GOVERNING, NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU BELIEVED YOU CAN MAKE DENTON BETTER, BUT BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF YOU WANTED TO. SO TODAY'S WOMEN'S CLUB IS ALSO ACTUALLY VERY AMAZING. AND ALL THE WORK THEY DO. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT DURING THAT DENTON BLACK FILM FESTIVAL, THEY LOST SPACE SUDDENLY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER CLOSURE, SOME LADIES FROM THE DENTON WOMEN'S CLUB STEPPED FORWARD AND GAVE THEM SPACE AND WORKING WITH THEM IN CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED WITH THE DENTON WOMEN'S CLUB. AND SOME LADIES FROM SOUTHEAST DENTON HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL. THEY'VE BEEN OPEN AND SINCERE IN THEIR DESIRE FOR AMENDS. AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T. WOMEN ARE AMAZING. I MEAN, FROM FROM HISTORY, I CAN TELL YOU DIDN'T WOMEN GET STUFF DONE? SO INDEED, IF YOU TABLE THIS VOTE YOUR LEGACY ON COUNCIL RECORD THAT YOU VOTED IN FAVOR OF COMMUNITY COLLABORATION, INCLUSION AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HEALING UNITY, LET THESE DENTON WOMEN COOK AND TABLE THE VOTE TONIGHT SO THEY BRING BACK A SAVORY SOLUTION WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND I HAVE A I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SURE. SO WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE? BE DONE. 
          >> WHAT DO. >> I PROPOSE? SO WHAT WOULD BE WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO DELAY? YOU'RE ASKING FOR DELAY. HOW MUCH TIME OR WHAT METRICS AS FAR AS HOW MANY PEOPLE. BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY DIDN'T HEAR RIGHT. YES, SIR. SO SO HOW MANY PEOPLE IS YOUR TARGET AND HOW MUCH TIME IS YOUR TARGET? 
          >> THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS. I MEAN, WE KNOW WE HAVE UNTIL AUGUST. YOU GUYS HAVE A LEASE IN FRONT 
          OF YOU NOW. ISN'T THAT CORRECT? >> WELL, WE CAN'T WAIT TILL THEN RIGHT. TO EXECUTE IT BECAUSE BUT BUT I THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION IS SIMPLY YOU SUGGESTED A PAUSE AND I MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU, IN YOUR MIND ADDRESS THE PERSON THAT COMES UP IN AUGUST, LET'S SAY, AND SAYS, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS CONVERSATION 
          STARTED IN 2022. >> SO SORT OF I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HLC DOCUMENTS THAT WERE ATTACHED, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ADVISORY LETTER, AND SOME OF THE HISTORY WAS RUN THROUGH THAT 2022 MEETING DID INDEED. BUT THERE'S SOME MATERIAL IN THERE THAT I THINK IS GOOD IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GREAT POSSIBLE THINGS THAT COULD 
          HAPPEN, BUT WE JUST NEEDED TO DO A LITTLE MORE TO COOK. >> YEAH, BUT I GOT IT. I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINT. AND I'M AND I DID READ THE LETTER, AND I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH YOU SAYING THERE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN WEALTH. YOU SAID THERE COULD HAVE BEEN WEALTH CARRIED OVER FROM THOSE FAMILIES. THAT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO ARGUE THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. HAVING WATCHED SARAH'S OIL, IT'S BASED ON A DOCUMENTARY. AND IN OKLAHOMA, WHERE A YOUNG LADY DISCOVERED OIL, WENT THROUGH ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT WE GO THROUGH. BUT THEN SHE AND SHE WAS BECAME WEALTHY, BUT THEN SHE LOST IT IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION. AND SO WE DON'T KNOW. WE CAN'T DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE TO THAT. I TOOK A LITTLE 
          ISSUE WITH THAT LIBERTY IN THE LETTER. WHAT'S THAT? >> OKAY. YES, SIR. 
          >> YEAH. NO, NO. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US IS A LEASE. AND I'M TRYING TO YOU'RE ASKING US TO QUANTIFY OUR DELAY OF TIME. AND SO I'M TRYING TO EVERYONE THAT'S COMING UP AND ASKING FOR THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE SAME QUESTION. WHAT HOW MUCH TIME ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT'S THE MILESTONE FOR WHEN WE GET THERE? AND SOMEONE SAYS, I DIDN'T KNOW AND 
          WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN. >> WELL, WE HAVE TWO MONTHS BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 2ND AND A HALF MONTHS REALLY. BUT THE IDEA IS TO AT LEAST CREATE SOME TIME FOR THERE TO BE SOME AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE. THERE'S, AGAIN, THERE'S SOME IDEAS IN THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THERE'S ALSO COMMUNITY BENEFIT 
          AGREEMENT MIGHT COME >> AND TO THAT POINT, IT TOOK YOU, IF I REMEMBER, TO GET A 
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DRAFT OUT. IS THAT RIGHT FOR YOUR HISTORY FOR THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION? 
          >> NO. >> IT THREE MEETINGS. >> NO. 
          >> NO, I KNOW IT WASN'T VOTED ON, BUT TO GET OUT WHAT THEY GOT OUT. IT TOOK WHAT, TWO 
          MEETINGS. >> IT TOOK A TARGET. DO WE WANT TO DO IT. YES WE WILL DO IT. 
          AND THEN HAVE A DRAFT IN BY THE END OF THE MONTH FOR THE NEXT MEETING. AND SO IN THAT NEXT MEETING, WE WERE TO EDIT IT. THERE WAS SOME EDITS RECOMMENDED AND IT WAS KICKED TO THE NEXT MONTH, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT OUR MEETING. NEXT WEEK IS WHEN 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE EDITING THE DOCUMENT, RIGHT? >> YEAH. NO. 
          >> SO BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S 
          LIKE, HOW MANY MEETINGS DOES IT TAKE TO GET FROM A TO B? >> YES. AND WE HAVE A DEADLINE. 
          UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS. OH, I'M SORRY. 
          >> I BEG YOUR PARDON. >> YES, SIR. SORRY. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOR YOU. 
          >> YOU MUST PICK A PICK. IT'S 90 DAYS, ACTUALLY. FROM TOMORROW. TOMORROW'S MAY 6TH. 
          THAT'S THREE. THAT'S 90 DAYS. YES, SIR. WHAT? WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? IN 90 DAYS? 
          >> THE SOLUTION IN 90 DAYS? >> YEAH, YEAH. WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THE RESOLUTION OF THIS? 
          >> WELL. >> IN YOUR MIND, HOW DOES HOW DOES THIS GET RECTIFIED? WHERE 
          YOU'RE WHERE YOU'RE PLEASED WITH IT? >> WELL, FOR ME, IT INVOLVES SOME TYPE OF ELEMENT FOR PUBLIC CONVERSATIONS AND ESPECIALLY ABOUT THINGS TO DO TOGETHER, 
          COLLABORATIVELY. >> UNDERSTAND, FILL, FILL THAT IN, FILL THAT IN. TELL ME WHAT 
          THAT LOOKS LIKE. >> HAVE, HAVE, HAVE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS, HAVE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE DISCUSS A COUPLE OF OPTIONS, MAYBE FOR WHAT KINDS OF THINGS WOULD LIKE TO BE SEEN THERE. THERE WERE COMMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN FROM PEOPLE THAT DID INCLUDE HISTORIC USE THAT DID INCLUDE PERHAPS MUSEUM ELEMENTS WERE EVEN BROUGHT UP, BUT THOSE THINGS WERE NOT CARRIED FORWARD. SO WHAT WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES THERE? AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IF WE LET THEM TALK, 
          I THINK THEY COULD COME TO SOME AGREEMENTS. >> ALL OF MY LIFETIME, ACCORDING TO THE TO THE BACKUP, THEY HAVE DONE CHARITABLE, EDUCATIONAL AND LITERARY 
          PROJECTS THERE. WOULD YOU WANT ANY MORE, ANY LESS OF THAT? >> SURE. JUST INCLUDE MORE PEOPLE, INCLUDE MORE GROUPS, MORE ORGANIZATIONS. THEY HAVE AN UMBRELLA THAT DIDN'T. 
          WOMEN'S CLUB IS AN UMBRELLA ITSELF FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT GROUPS. WE NEED SOME MORE 
          INCLUSIVE. >> GROUPS, BUT THEY'RE NOT RESTRICTING ANYONE, ARE THEY? 
          >> TO MY UNDERSTANDING, NOT CURRENTLY. BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS THAT'S NOT THE PERCEPTION IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME COMMUNITY WORK. 
          >> WELL, IT IS A WOMEN'S BUILDING. I MEAN, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT YOU AND ME BUILDING. BUT BUT BUT BUT I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY'RE DOING A FINE JOB AND HAVE FOR 100 YEARS 
          CHARITABLE, EDUCATIONAL AND LITERARY. >> I MEAN, THERE'S. 
          >> NOBODY ELSE CAN DO THAT IN DENTON. NOBODY ELSE IS DOING THAT IN DENTON. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. GO GO GO. RIGHT. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, GO BRIEFLY. GO 
          RIGHT AHEAD. I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF. >> SURE. WELL, THE THERE IS A HISTORY OF OF EXCLUSIONARY PEOPLE WHO COULD OR COULDN'T BE MEMBERS OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB. OF 
          COURSE, THAT HASN'T BEEN TRUE. >> HOLD HOLD ON, HOLD ON. >> THAT HASN'T BEEN TRUE FOR MODERN TIME. BUT THERE IS A PR PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          >> OKAY? OKAY. AND I HEAR YOU. I BEG YOUR PARDON, MAYOR, I HAVE NEVER BEEN A MEMBER OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB. NEVER. BUT I HAVE BEEN TO NUMBERS OF EVENTS AT THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER IS. PAT RINKY. YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE 
          MINUTES. >> HI. THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, FOR. 
          >> LETTING ME, IF YOU CAN JUST SAT DOWN SO WE CAN HEAR YOU BETTER. 
          >> THANK YOU. YES, I AM SURE. YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN DENTON SINCE THE 80S, AND I HAVE BEEN TO THE WOMEN'S CLUB MANY TIMES FOR MANY EVENTS OVER THE YEARS. PIANO RECITALS AND WEDDINGS, FUNERALS, SHOWERS, EDUCATIONAL LECTURES AND CHARITY FUNDRAISERS. SO THE WOMEN'S CLUB HAS PROVIDED A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE. IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND IT'S NOT EXCLUSIONARY IN THAT WAY AT ALL. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL TO VOTE TO APPROVE THE LEASE. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF LADIES THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO 
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MAINTAIN THE BUILDING ALL THESE YEARS, AND THEY'RE REALLY GO GETTERS, AND THEY JUST WANT TO CONTINUE THE WORK. SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING APPROVING THE LEASE FOR THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY 
          YEARS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS LUIS GRIFFITH. COME 
          DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS LOUISE GRIFFITH. I LIVE AT 910 HAINES STREET IN DENTON. IF YOU ACCEPT, AS THE CITY OF DENTON HAS, WHAT HISTORICAL RECORD RESEARCH TELLS US THAT IN 1921, A THRIVING BLACK COMMUNITY WAS INVOLUNTARILY REMOVED FROM THEIR ESTABLISHED RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES. HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY CONTINUING INJUSTICE? BY RENEWING THE LEASE FOR A GROUP THAT WAS HISTORICALLY PART OF THAT EFFORT? IN 2006, DENTON DECIDED TO BEGIN THE HEALING PROCESS BY RENAMING THE PARK. IN HONOR OF THAT COMMUNITY. QUAKERTOWN. MORE TIME IS NEEDED TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC IN THIS DECISION TO RENEW THE LEASE, MOST ESPECIALLY ENGAGING MEMBERS OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB IN THEIR ROLE IN CONTINUATION OF THE HEALING PROCESS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE EFFORTS THOSE MEMBERS HAVE MADE IN THIS DIRECTION. I'M GUESSING THEY WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO RIGHT THIS WRONG. IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT MORE TIME IS NEEDED TO EXPLORE OTHER POSSIBILITIES THAN A VIRTUALLY EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT WITH ONE ORGANIZATION. IN CONCLUSION, I 
          URGE YOU TO POSTPONE YOUR DECISION. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IF YOU'D BE SO KIND AS I'M PROCESSING YOUR REQUEST, HOW DO I PIN ALL OF THE WRONGS OF THAT ENTIRE ERA ON THIS ONE GROUP? SO THERE'S TO YOU, THERE'S THE CITY OF DENTON. THERE'S. AND ON THAT SAME PROPERTY, CAN STAFF PULL UP THAT MAP, BY THE WAY, PLEASE, OF QUAKERTOWN. SO HOW DO WE FROM DENTON ISD HAD SEGREGATED SCHOOLS? LIKE HOW DO WE PUT ALL OF THAT ON THIS ONE DISCUSSION? LIKE THAT'S I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO PARSE THAT OUT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 
          >> I FEEL I FEEL LIKE THE WOMEN'S BUILDING AND ITS HISTORY IS EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN 1921. BUT AND SO AND SO SORRY. AND SO I AS I SAID IN MY STATEMENT, WE NEED TO INCORPORATE THE THE WOMEN OF THE WOMEN'S BUILDING IN HELPING THIS HEALING PROCESS. LET THEM COME FORWARD WITH SOME WAYS TO RECONCILE WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. I DON'T HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE, BUT I THINK THEY THAT THIS QUAKERTOWN PARK CONCEPT INCLUDES THE WOMEN'S 
          BUILDING AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE. >> I AGREE, BUT LOOKING AT THIS MAP, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT OF IT OF THE OF QUAKERTOWN. AND SO IT INCORPORATES A CIVIC CENTER POOL, THE SENIOR CENTER. AND SO ARE THOSE BUILDINGS ENTITIES CULPABLE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE LAND THAT WAS STOLEN, RIGHT? 
          >> YEAH. >> SO THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 
          >> WELL, IN THE SENSE THAT THE CONCEPT OF QUAKERTOWN HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING HAS ACKNOWLEDGED IT. THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN. OR THE 
          WOMEN'S CLUBS HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED IT. >> RIGHT. OKAY. BUT I JUST, I, YOU, YOU AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR IT, BUT THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS HOW I UNDERSTAND THE WOMEN'S CLUB, BUT ALSO THE CITY IT WAS TOOK PART IN THAT T W TOOK PART IN THAT THE CITIZENS VOTED ON IT UNDERSTANDING THERE WERE RESTRICTIONS. BUT BUT EVEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT BENEFITED. AND SO I JUST WAS CURIOUS HOW TO HOW WE PARSE THAT OUT. HOW DO WE HOLD EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE EQUALLY? SHOULD. YES. 
          >> WE. >> SHOULD, I AGREE. >> BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 
          EVERYONE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WOMEN'S CLUB. >> BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE 
          TALKING ABOUT EVERYONE. >> BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY. 
          >> I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT NO, A GROUND LEASE IS TODAY BEFORE US A ISSUE OF RECONCILING A PAST WRONG IS THAT'S EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY. AND I'M JUST I MAY BE WRONG, BUT THAT'S THAT'S 
          MY OPINION. >> YEAH. YEAH, YOU MAY BE WRONG. >> THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WAIT, 
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THERE'S, THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HAD A THEY WANT TO HE WANTS A CHANCE TO BE WRONG TO. 
          HE HAS A QUESTION. >> AND MA'AM, I MISSED YOUR NAME, WHICH. I SIMPLY MISSED 
          YOUR NAME. >> YOU DIDN'T KNOW MY NAME? >> I'M SORRY. 
          >> LOUISE GRIFFITH. >> MISS GRIFFITH. THANK YOU. NO RELATION TO ERNEST GRIFFITH? 
          >> NO. >> OKAY. MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT OF NORTH TEXAS. OKAY, OKAY. I HAVE A PROBLEM, MAYOR. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TERM STOLEN. LAND THAT WAS STOLEN WAS WAS. 
          >> NOT STOLEN. >> I KNOW YOU DIDN'T. I SAID THE MAYOR. I SAID I CALLED THE MAYOR OUT EMINENT DOMAIN. WAS THAT NOT USED TO TO TO TO TO TAKE THAT PROPERTY. 
          >> IT WAS. >> EMINENT DOMAIN. NO, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF EMINENT DOMAIN THAT FAIR MARKET VALUE OF PROPERTY IS PAID AT THAT TIME. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1926 RIGHT? RIGHT. 21 OKAY. 1921 I WANT TO GIVE YOU A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE. IN 1996, I BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON WITHERS STREET, 409 WITHERS STREET. THE HOUSE IS THERE RIGHT NOW. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. I PAID $35,000 FOR IT. THIS IS 770. THIS IS 70 YEARS AFTER. THE THE THE LAND WAS, WAS, WAS WAS BOUGHT FOR THE PARK. IF MY HOUSE WAS AND I PAID, I MEAN, I WENT IT WAS ON THE OPEN MARKET. YOU COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT. I BOUGHT IT FOR $35,000. MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH WAS THAT HOUSE IN 1921? IF IT WAS 35,000 IN 1996, HOW MUCH WAS IT IN 
          1921? >> ANYBODY'S GOING TO KNOW THAT TO YOU. 
          >> SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT. >> DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH. 
          >> WELL, I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT THAT IT WAS IT HALF OF THAT 17000, A QUARTER OF THAT 7000. IT PROBABLY WASN'T A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY IN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF OF MODERN DOLLARS, BUT I BUT I BET IT WAS FAIR MARKET. OKAY. IT'S, IT'S A RHETORICAL IT'S A RHETORICAL 
          QUESTION. THANK YOU, MISS GRIFFITH. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, REVEREND LOGAN, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> THANK YOU. MA'AM, MY NAME IS REGINALD THOMAS LOGAN. I LIVE IN 705 PARK LANE IN THE CITY OF DENTON. LONGTIME CITY RESIDENT LOVE THE CITY OF DENTON. I COME TODAY AND I'M LISTENING TO THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE YOU. I'M A PASTOR FOR 27 YEARS, AND YOU GUYS ARE PASTORS OF THE CITY. AND I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO COME AND POSTPONE THE THE LEASE OF THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. THIS IS THE REASON WHY THERE WAS A VISION IN 1921 THAT WE HAVE A NEW VISION IN THE 2040 PLAN. I WAS SO PROUD TO BE ON THE 2040 PLAN COMMITTEE FOR A YEAR, AND IT OUTLINED IN THAT GROUP. WE SAID THAT WE. THEY SAID THE VISION. THE QUAKERTOWN PARK HOLDS ALL THE UNTOLD LAYERS OF HISTORY AND STORY WITHIN HIS PASTORAL LANDSCAPE. SO YOU PASTORS, I'M ASKING YOU TO HELP YOUR MEMBERS OF YOUR CONGREGATION, THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, WHICH I TELL YOU, SOME NICE LADIES OVER THERE. AND MAYOR, NO, EZEKIEL 18 SAYS, YOU SHOULD NOT PUT THE SINS OF THE FATHER ON THE SONS. THAT'S WHAT THE LORD SAID. FIRST HE SAID, PUT IT ON THE SON. LATER ON IN EZEKIEL SAID, DO NOT PUT THE SINS OF THE FATHER TO THE SON. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT THE SINS OF THE UNITED WOMEN OF THE CIVIL WAR AND FEDERATION. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT THAT ON THESE LADIES AT THE AT THE BUILDING. NO, WE'RE ONLY ASKING THAT THE VISION IS ONLY LIVED UP TO FOR THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ME AND MY CONGREGATION AND THEY HAVE IDEAS, I ASK THEM ONLY ONE THING DOES YOUR IDEA WORK IN COINCIDE WITH THE VISION OF THIS CONGREGATION? THEY SAY, OH, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I READ THEM THE VISION, AND WE HAVE A VISION HERE THAT'S GOING TO INCORPORATE THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. SO BETWEEN NOW AND 2040, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS AND THE PEOPLE THAT COME AFTER YOU TO INCORPORATE THE WOMEN'S BUILDING AS BEING PART OF QUAKER TOWN PARK. NOW, WHEN I HAD MY FAMILY REUNION HERE IN 24, 2024, AND I GAVE A TOUR THROUGH THE QUAKER BUILDING, I 
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HAD MY LITTLE SPEAKER AND I TOOK ALL MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME A QUESTION. I'M A PREACHER. I GET WOUND UP. SOMEBODY ASKED ME A QUESTION. THEY SAID, WELL, WHAT'S THAT BUILDING OVER THERE, LOGAN? I SAID, WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. I SAID, BUT WE GOT THIS WHOLE PARK. WE GOT 32 ACRES. THEY SAID, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT BUILDING? IS THAT BUILDING PART, THAT LIBRARY? I SAID, YOU CAN'T TOUCH THE LIBRARY. AND THAT'S EMILY FOWLER. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T RENAME THAT. WE CAN'T MESS WITH THAT. BUT SAID, BUT WHAT IS THAT BUILDING FOR? SO THEN I HAD TO GO AND TELL THEM THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING. NOW, I DON'T WANT THEM TO COME BACK IN 2040. AND WE REDONE THE DOWNTOWN PLAN AND AND THE QUAKER PARK AND EVERYTHING IS RENEWED AND EVERYTHING IS BEAUTIFIED AND EVERYTHING IS HISTORY OF QUAKERTOWN. I DON'T WANT THEM TO ASK ME, WHAT ABOUT THAT BUILDING? SO I THINK BETWEEN US AND THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, THE OFFICERS THERE CAN COME TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THE WOMEN'S BUILDING OF THE QUAKER TOWN 
          PARK. >> AND I AGREE, AND I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. SO HOW? WHAT'S THE MAKE THE CONNECTION FOR ME WITH A GROUND LEASE. AND AND YOU SAID IT. I'M GONNA USE YOUR WORDS. A PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE PARK, RIGHT. SO IF THEY LEASE THE BUILDING. 
          >> YES. >> AND YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE PARK, CAN'T BOTH THOSE 
          WORK TOGETHER? >> SURE. IF THEY ALLOW ME TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE BUILDING. 
          IF I CAN GO THERE AND SAY IT'S QUAKERTOWN PARK AND THEN REACH OVER THAT BUILDING AND SAY, THAT BUILDING IS NOW QUAKER HALL. AND WHAT'S IN THAT BUILDING? I GOT ARTIFACTS THAT TALKS ABOUT FRED GROCERY STORE THAT WAS ON THAT LAND. IF I CAN DO THAT, AND THEY CAN BE GOVERNING BOARDS OF THAT BUILDING AND THEY CAN RENT THE BUILDING OUT STILL, THEY CAN GAIN THE MONEY FROM THE BUILDING. THEY'RE THE GOVERNING PARTY OF THE BUILDING. BUT THE BUILDING IS ONLY CALLED QUAKER TOWN HALL. BUT THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. 
          >> BUT THIS IS THE THING. IF IF WE DON'T OWN IF WE DON'T HAVE NAMING RIGHTS TO THE BUILDING, WE SHOULDN'T. YOU HAVE THAT NAMING RIGHTS CONVERSATION WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NAMING 
          RIGHTS TO THE BUILDING? >> WELL, I'M LEAVING THAT UP TO THE POWERS TO BRING THE TWO 
          FLOCKS TOGETHER AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> I'M SAYING I'M SAYING WE'RE HAPPY TO FACILITATE CONVERSATIONS. BUT BUT AS IT'S STATED EARLY IN THE CONVERSATION, WE DIDN'T BUILD A BUILDING, WE DIDN'T MAINTAIN THE BUILDING. AND I HAZARD TO GUESS IF THE CITY SHOWED UP TO MY HOUSE AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE NAME OF YOUR HOUSE, WE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I PAY FOR THAT. AND SO THERE'S DECENT IN AN 
          ORDER COMES INTO PLAY. >> YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYOR, BUT IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU THAT MY FATHER STOLE THAT HOUSE FROM YOU AND THEY SAID, WELL, BUT THAT WAS OUR LAND. I JUST BUILT MY HOUSE ON IT. AND THEN YOU COME BACK TO THEM AND SAY, WELL, CAN I MAKE IT RIGHT WITH YOU? WHAT CAN I DO? SO WE CAN COME TOGETHER AS BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND BRING THE TWO FLOCKS TOGETHER AND MAKE IT HARMONIOUS BETWEEN ALL OF US? SURE. HE SAID, WELL, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO CHANGE THAT NAME OF THAT BUILDING TO REFLECT WHAT MY FATHER DID. I DON'T KNOW 
          WHAT I WOULD SAY TO HIM. I MIGHT SAY YES, I MIGHT SAY NO. >> WORTHY CONVERSATION, AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT MY FOLKS COULDN'T LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CARROLL STREET. YOU'RE VERY AWARE. I KNOW. SO ALL THOSE HISTORIC HOMES AND IN OAK AND ALL AND ALL THOSE AREAS, THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN HERE AND TELL ME ABOUT WHAT I NEED TO DO. AND THEY BENEFIT FROM THAT SAME THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE SAME SYSTEM SAID WE 
          COULDN'T MOVE OVER THERE. >> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. >> SO IT I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE 
          GO, LET'S GET THEM ALL IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM. >> BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY, IF IF I HADN'T, IF I'D KNOWN ABOUT THIS EARLIER AND I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS MAYOR, I GO AROUND TO THE FIVE HISTORICAL CHURCHES WHEN I WANT THEM TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN SOUTHEAST. DIDN'T KNOW WHAT AFFECTS THE THE QUAKERTOWN DESCENDANTS. I GO AROUND TO EACH ONE OF THOSE CONGREGATIONS BECAUSE I'M A PASTOR. I ASK FOR FIVE MINUTES AND LET THEM KNOW, DO YOU GUYS REALLY UNDERSTAND OR EVEN CARE ABOUT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING? HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S WHAT I DO. BUT IF YOU GIVE ME THAT CHANCE, I'LL DO THAT STARTING JUNE AND I'LL GO TO EVERY HISTORICAL CHURCH, AND IF I GET ENOUGH TIME LEFT, I'LL GO TO THE OTHER CHURCHES THAT I KNOW IN SOUTHEAST DENTON AND TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING ON SO THEY'LL HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, AND THEY'LL KNOW THAT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY TO USE. AND THEY'RE NOT ANY TYPE OF GROUP THAT'S STANDING ON LAWS THAT WILL BRING UP BY THE DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY OR THE FEDERATION OF WOMEN THAT HAD ANYTHING AGAINST BLACK FOLKS. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE, RIGHT. I'VE HAD MEETINGS THERE. I'VE GONE TO WEDDINGS THERE. I'M YOU GET ME, 
          DON'T GET ME STARTED. >> HEY. >> I GO AND I'VE BEEN TREATED RIGHT THERE. OKAY? I WAS JUST THERE JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WITH A GROUP OF WOMEN HAD HAD RENTED THE FACILITY. I'VE BEEN THERE. THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE. I MET WITH KAREN, WITH RIGGS, AND AND WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE. THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE. THEY'RE GOOD FOLKS. I'M JUST ASKING THEM. WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE 2040 PLANS TO COME TO FRUITION, CAN WE INCORPORATE 
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THAT BUILDING SO IT REFLECTS ALL THE QUAKER TOWN PARK. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M 
          ASKING. >> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S THE ONLY THING. 
          >> THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER IS FRANCIS PUNCH. IF YOU IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> I'M FRANCIS PUNCH, 2002 WORCESTER STREET. HELLO, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THE NAVIGATION OF THE LEASE PROCESS FOR THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, WHICH ORIGINATED WITH THE DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY, IS NOT A TYPICAL LEASE PROCEDURE. THE HISTORY SURROUNDING THIS BUILDING AND THE EVENTS OF QUAKERTOWN CREATES A CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CANNOT BE DENIED. THIS PROPERTY WAS TAKEN AND THE BUILDING IS THE REWARD. THEREFORE, TYPICAL APPROACH DOES NOT APPLY HERE. THE URGENCY IN WHICH THIS NEW LEASE IS BEING PRESENTED CREATES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SUSPICION, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MEETINGS WERE MEETING SURROUNDING THE RENEWAL OF THE LEASE WERE HELD IN PRIVATE. THE NEW LEASES. THE NEW LEASE WAS SIGNED FOR 2926. THE COMMENCEMENT DATE IS SET FOR TODAY, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. THE CURRENT LEASE DOES NOT EXPIRE UNTIL AUGUST 2026. THESE TACTICS DO NOT CREATE PUBLIC TRUST. I SAW NO MENTION OF THE RIDGE IN THE ORIGINAL LEASE THAT IT CAN OR WILL BE EXTENDED AFTER THE 99 YEAR TERM. THAT BEING THE CASE, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY IS THERE COMPLETED LEASE IN PLACE WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE LOCAL HISTORICAL LAND COMMISSION OR COMMUNITY INPUT? HOW CAN THIS LEASE BE APPROVED WITHOUT A FINAL SURVEY? ALSO, THE OVERARCHING VAGUE LANGUAGE FAVORS THE WOMAN'S CLUB ON EVERY ACCOUNT, WHICH CONTINUES TO EXCLUDE MENTION OF THOSE WRONGED BY QUAKER TOWNS. 
          OMISSION. THE FIRST PAGE OF THE NEW LEASE STATES THE CITY COUNCIL DEEMS IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO ENTER INTO A LEASE WITH FEDERATION. IF LEASING THIS BUILDING TO THE WOMEN'S CLUB IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. 
          HOW CAN A COMMERCIAL OPERATION LOCATE ON CITY PROPERTY AS SUCH A BELOW MARKET RATE? DOES IT NOT PROVIDE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE AGAINST OTHER RENTABLE FACILITIES IN TOWN? HOW EXACTLY IS LEASING THE BUILDING TO THE WOMAN'S BUILDING, TO THE WOMEN'S CLUB OF BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE? LASTLY, THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF REPORTS THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DIDN'T PLAN, DID NOT INCLUDE THE USE OF THE WOMEN'S BUILDING AS A MUSEUM SPACE. THIS SEEMS TO BE AN ERROR BECAUSE I MYSELF SUBMITTED THIS IDEA. EXACT IDEA AS PART OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I STAND IN OPPOSITION OF RENEWING THE LEASE FOR THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. 
          MY REQUEST TO COUNCIL IS TO VOTE NO ON THIS ITEM OR POSTPONE THIS ITEM FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. TRANSPARENCY IS LACKING. THERE ARE TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS ALL THEIR INFORMATION TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. I THANK 
          YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> HOLD ON, I CAN'T, I CAN'T HEAR. SO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? 
          REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. >> NO, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN, WELL DONE. BUT JUST FOR THOSE PAYING ATTENTION, WE DO HAVE PRIVATE ENTITIES OPERATING ON PUBLIC LAND. AND WHAT COMES TO MIND MOST IMMEDIATELY IS THE AIRPORT. THAT'S ALL OUR LAND. 
          ALTHOUGH HANGARS ARE BUILT AND BUSINESSES ARE OPERATING OUT OF THERE. JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. WELL DONE. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          CHRISTINE, CAN YOU SWITCH TO THE THE THE DOCUMENT ON NOTIFICATION THAT WAS PROVIDED PLEASE? YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. AND I WOULD SAY THE OTHER SLIDE IS THAT YEAH, THAT'S THE MOST RECENT. AND THEN WE'LL TOGGLE BACK AND FORTH. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER TANYA GILBEAUX. SORRY, I DIDN'T WANT TO MISPRONOUNCE. IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME, 
          YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD EVENING. I HOPE YOU ALL 
          ARE DOING WELL. MY NAME IS TANYA GILBERT. >> AND I ASK YOU TO. YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. YOU CAN ADJUST IT WHEREVER. >> YES. OKAY. MY NAME IS TANYA GUILBAULT. I RESIDE AT 603 BOLIVAR. I ENCOURAGE A NO OR TABLING RESPONSE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING THE DENTON CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S LEASE RENEWAL. THE 99 YEAR LEASE ENDS AUGUST 5TH, 2026, NOT MAY 5TH, 2026. THE CURRENT ACTIVE LEASE DOES NOT PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR LEASE RENEWAL PRIOR TO, OR AT THE END OF THE OF THE CURRENT LEASE TERM. WHY IS THE CITY COUNCIL MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE CURRENT LEASE WITHOUT PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER 
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INPUT? TRANSPARENCY BY THE CITY IS CRUCIAL. PUBLIC INPUT IS NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY FROM RESIDENTS WITH TIES TO QUAKERTOWN. THE CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUB, A NONPROFIT, PROMOTES DEDICATION TO SERVING THE DENTON COMMUNITY. THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES. THIS ORGANIZATION PROUDLY BOASTS CHAMPIONING WOMEN'S CIVIC AND CULTURAL LIFE SINCE 1891, AND THIS IS ON THEIR BUILDING WEBSITE. IF YOU TRY TO FIND THE WEBSITE FOR THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF, IT SAYS PAGE NOT FOUND. BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A WEDDING OR EVENT, THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT INFORMATION. EXACTLY. WHAT IS THE ORGANIZATION ROLE IN THE DENTON COMMUNITY? AS AN ALUMNA OF TWU? WHERE DO I FIT IN THE THE CITY OF DENTON GROUND LEASE WITH DENTON WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING STATES THAT THE BUILDING IS A GATHERING SPACE FOR CIVIC, CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES THE CITY COUNCIL DEEMS. IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO ENTER INTO A LEASE. IS IT IN THE BEST INTEREST? WHY? HOW? I CHALLENGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE IN THE CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING? THAT CLUB? EXCUSE ME. THAT LOOK LIKE ME? IS THE ORGANIZATION INCLUSIVE OR EXCLUSIVE? I SUSPECT THAT MANY CITIZENS OF DENTON ARE CONCERNED, FRUSTRATED AND CONFUSED BY THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. A MORE MEANINGFUL SETTING WITH CONVERSATION AND FEEDBACK IS NEEDED TO INCLUDE ALL STAKEHOLDERS. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS KATINA STONE BUTLER. YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR 
          NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> KATINA STONE. >> BUTLER, 31 YEAR RESIDENT OF NORTH DENTON. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF START OFF BY SAYING DYING FROM NATURAL CAUSES IS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM BEING MURDERED AND SOMEONE BEING MURDERED. IT HAS RAMIFICATIONS THAT CAN LAST FOR GENERATIONS. SO LOSING OIL ON LAND BECAUSE OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION IS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THAT LAND BEING STOLEN AND NEVER BEING MADE RIGHT. AND TO POINT TO YOUR QUESTION OF SHOULD EVERYBODY BE RESPONSIBLE? YES, THE CITY OF DENTON SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. T W SHOULD GIVE SCHOLARSHIPS. THERE SHOULD BE ALL KINDS OF EQUITABLE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING FROM EVERY ENTITY THAT PARTICIPATED. SO JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HOLDING THE WOMEN'S BUILDING OR THE CLUBHOUSE RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE TO INCLUDE US IN THESE CONVERSATIONS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD LEAVE OUT T W BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING MONEY TO ARCHIVE A HISTORY, BUT THEY SHOULD BE GIVING MONEY TO DESCENDANTS. WE SHOULD INCLUDE ANY, ANY ASPECT OF THE CITY TO MAKE IT RIGHT. THE LORD TOOK 450 YEARS TO MAKE ENSLAVEMENT OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL. RIGHT? SO IN A THOUSAND YEARS TO HIM IS, IS, IS LIKE A DAY. 
          SO IF GOD CAN MAKE IT RIGHT, WE CAN MAKE IT RIGHT. BUT THE COMMUNITY WAS REMOVED THROUGH ORGANIZED CITY AND CIVIC EFFORTS. QUAKERTOWN WAS REMOVED THROUGH ORGANIZED CITY AND CIVIC CIVIC EFFORTS THAT INCLUDED THE UNITED DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY. WE CAN'T JUST SKIP OVER THAT AND PLAY SEMANTICS AND OTHER LOCAL WOMEN'S CLUBS, AND LED TO THE WOMEN'S CLUBHOUSE BEING BUILT ON THAT LAND AND LEASE FOR A PENNY A YEAR. FOR 99 YEARS. 
          THEY HAVE A 99 YEAR ADVANTAGE. THAT LEASE IS NOW UP FOR RENEWAL, WITH NO COMMUNITY INPUT FOR HOW IT SHOULD BE USED. THE IRONY IS CLEAR A SPACE THAT SERVED A THRIVING, SELF-SUFFICIENT BLACK COMMUNITY AND ITS ORGANIZATIONS WAS FORCIBLY UPROOTED AND GIVEN OVER TO EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIONARY WOMEN'S SOCIAL CLUBS. AND OVER THE COURSE OF A CENTURY, THAT HARM HAS NEVER BEEN MADE RIGHT. THERE ARE BLACK, WOMEN'S AND OTHER ORGS IN DENTON TODAY, AS WELL AS DESCENDANTS OF QUAKERTOWN AND RESIDENTS OF SOUTHEAST DENTON WHO HAVE NEVER HAD A SEAT AT THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SPACE. I AM A MEMBER OF ZETA PHI BETA SORORITY INCORPORATED, ONE OF THE FOUR HISTORICALLY BLACK SORORITIES. AND FOR OVER 100 YEARS, OUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE EXEMPLIFIED THE IDEALS OF SERVICE, SCHOLARSHIP, SISTERHOOD, AND JUSTICE. FROM OUR INCEPTION IN THE EARLY 1900S, WE HAVE MODELED INCLUSION EVEN WHEN IT WAS NOT EXTENDED TO US IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE SOME YEARS AGO AS A YOUNG CHAPTER PRESIDENT AT UNT, I ATTEMPTED TO BOOK THE WOMEN'S CLUBHOUSE AND LEFT WITH A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT ACCESS WAS NOT EQUAL. DENTON IS ALREADY A DIFFICULT PLACE FOR ANYONE TO SECURE VENUES, A LEASE AT A PENNY A YEAR OR $1,320 A YEAR 
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WITH THIS RENEWAL, REMOVES ONE OF THE LARGEST FINANCIAL BURDENS FOR ANY ORG. 
          >> AND THAT'S. THANK YOU. AND I DO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT MY COMMENT WAS BASED ON THE LETTER FROM THE HLC THAT SAID, AND I, QUOTE, DISRUPT THE ESTABLISHED, ESTABLISHED OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH AND A SHATTERED, CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY THAT HAD ENDURED DECADES OF SEGREGATION AND DISCRIMINATION. THE FACT THAT THAT THAT ESTABLISHMENT OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH WOULD HAVE BEEN CARRIED OVER IS SUBJECT TO DEBATE. SO I BELIEVE. 
          >> OKAY, WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISPLACEMENT OF TOWNSHIPS ACROSS AMERICA AFTER ENSLAVEMENT ENDED BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE MOVED UPWARD, LIKE THE UPWARD MOBILITY OF BLACK PEOPLE RIGHT OUT OF ENSLAVEMENT SCARED WHITE PEOPLE SO BAD BECAUSE WE WERE CREATING PATENTS, WE WERE BUYING LAND, WE WERE DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF THEM. SO THEN ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, TOWNSHIPS WERE BURNED DOWN. THEY WERE FLOODED. THEY WERE TAKEN. QUAKERTOWN IS NOT UNIQUE. AND YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS NOT RESIDUAL. 
          YOU CAN'T. >> IT CERTAINLY CAN BE. IT CERTAINLY CAN BE. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. BUT THIS. >> BUT THIS THIS SAYS, WELL, YOU DON'T THERE'S PLENTY OF 
          PEOPLE THAT MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND THEN DON'T HANG ON TO IT. >> SO BLACK. OKAY. OKAY. MAYOR. 
          >> YEAH, I MEAN, SURE. OKAY. >> MILLIONS OF BLACK PEOPLE BEING DISENFRANCHIZED MARGINALIZED DISPARITIES, HEALTH DISPARITIES, ECONOMIC, LIKE ALL KINDS OF DISPARITIES THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE IMPACTED THE BLACK COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST US NOT HOLDING ON. 
          >> TO MONEY. NO, NO, NO, I AGREE, BUT BUT I DON'T AGREE THAT IT'S ALL STATE TO THIS LEASE. I THINK THEY CAN LEASE. I THINK THEY CAN LEASE THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN STILL HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. I HAD MY CAMPAIGN KICKOFF PARTY THERE AND I TOUCHED ON THIS VERY MOMENT THAT THAT IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT THE DENTON'S FIRST BLACK MAYOR HAD HIS EVENT AT THE AT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, WHICH YOU COULDN'T NORMALLY DO. SO I GET IT. THAT'S NOT LOST UPON ME. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S ALSO NOT LOST UPON ME. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT BENEFITED, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO COME TO THE TABLE AND GIVE IT BACK. AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CIVIC CENTER POOL THERE. WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER? WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE CIVIC CENTER AND THE PROCEEDS THEY MAKE? AND THAT THAT'S THE CITY IS COMPLICIT TO THAT. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE, LET'S HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE. BUT BUT LET'S NOT. 
          >> WE'RE NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY PAY FOR THE SINS OF THE FATHER, AS REVEREND LOGAN SO GRACIOUSLY PUT IT. WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND COMMUNITY INPUT. SURE. NAMING SOMETHING LIKE I PERSONALLY AM COMPLETELY AGAINST NAMING, YOU KNOW, QUAKERTOWN PARK, NAMING IT QUAKERTOWN PARK. WHAT DOES THAT DO? THAT'S NOT TO ME. THAT'S A THAT'S A NICE GESTURE, BUT IT'S NOT AS EQUITABLE. SURE. GIVING SCHOLARSHIPS AND PUTTING MONIES MONEY IN HANDS AND HELPING SMALL BLACK, SMALL BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S THAT'S MORE MY LANE. YES. BUT NAMING STUFF AFTER NAMING STREETS MLK LIKE THAT'S GREAT, BUT I'M WITH YOU. LIKE, LET'S DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE EQUITABLE. 
          >> SURE. >> FOR EVERYONE. >> I AGREE. 
          >> AND NOT JUST THE BLACK RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THE INDIGENOUS INDIGENOUS RESIDENTS 
          BECAUSE THE LAND WAS TAKEN TWICE. >> YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BUTLER. YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OH, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. THERE WERE. I'M SORRY. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS I MISSED. SORRY. YES, MA'AM. PLEASE. AND THANK YOU. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT FIVE. GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
          >> YES. >> FIRST OFF, WELL DONE. THANK YOU FOR THE WAY IN WHICH YOU SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT. I WAITED, I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE WHO LOOKED LIKE ME CAME SO I COULD ASK THIS QUESTION. AND DOCTOR TREAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR THE WAY IN WHICH YOU DELICATELY TRIED TO ANSWER MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU COULDN'T SAY IT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THAT RESPECT. SO WHAT DOES HEALING LOOK LIKE? HEALING? AND TO THOSE WHO ARE COMING AFTER AS WELL, TO THOSE BLACK FOLKS WHO ARE COMING AFTER TO SPEAK, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HEALING LOOKS LIKE IN THIS CASE. AND IF YOU CAN BE SOMEWHAT SPECIFIC, I'D 
          APPRECIATE THAT. YES, MA'AM. >> HEALING LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE I'M ORIGINALLY FROM MEMPHIS AND WE HAD OUR OWN UPRISING HEALING FOR ME AS A 31 YEAR RESIDENT, LOOKS LIKE INVITING ANDREA BERRY TO THE CONVERSATION, SEEKING OUT QUAKERTOWN DESCENDANTS, HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. AND LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT WHAT HEALING LOOKS LIKE FOR THEM. I MEAN, FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT IS ACKNOWLEDGMENT. FOR SOME PEOPLE IT IS NAMING THE BUILDING. AND I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ORIGINAL QUAKERTOWN RESIDENT, BUT IT STARTS WITH A CONVERSATION AND NOT BEING OBTUSE WITH, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY 
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VALUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AS IF THERE WASN'T A HISTORY TIED TO IT. WE'RE NOT BLAMING THE WOMEN IN THIS BUILDING FOR THE HISTORY, BUT THE HISTORY IS THE HISTORY AND A 99 YEAR LEASE FOR A PENNY A YEAR. IF MY SORORITY HAD THAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT, IT WOULD BE AMAZING. 
          AND WE'RE AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION WITH CHAPTERS ALL OVER THE WORLD. GIVE US A PENNY, A LEASE, A PENNY A MONTH OR A PENNY A YEAR AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. THERE HAS BEEN THERE HAVE BEEN BENEFITS. THEY HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE LEASE. YES, THEY'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE BUILDING. THEY'VE DONE GREAT THINGS. BUT THERE'S BEEN A GREAT BENEFIT AND THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT LOSS. AND WE NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED. 
          >> THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU MAYOR. >> OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER IS ELIZABETH DURBIN. IS THAT RIGHT? YOU CAN COME COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE 
          MINUTES. >> HI, I'M ELIZABETH DURBIN. LIZ DURBIN. I JUST WANTED TO GET UP HERE AND SAY, AND JUST BEING A PART OF THE DENTON COMMUNITY AND JUST BEING A LITTLE WHITE GIRL, GIVEN MY INPUT ON QUAKERTOWN AND THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, I DO NOT THINK THAT THE LEASE SHOULD BE RENEWED WITHOUT PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY QUAKERTOWN DESCENDANTS AND THE BLACK COMMUNITY OF DENTON HAVING A SAY IN WHAT GOES ON THERE. I THINK PERSONALLY, IF I HAD IT MY WAY, IT WOULD BE A MUSEUM FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR TO SHARE THEIR STORIES AND THEIR HISTORY AND THEIR ART. THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD WANT TO BE DONE WITH IT. I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT WELL EDUCATED, SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT I THINK THAT THE VOTE SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, ESPECIALLY THE DESCENDANTS AND THE PEOPLE, THAT THIS IS DIRECTLY AFFECTED THROUGH GENERATIONS TO HAVE THEIR SAY. 
          >> OKAY. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS PHYLLIS MINTON. PHYLLIS MINTON. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE. YEAH. YES. GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WHAT AN EVENING TO BE HERE. AND WHAT BEAUTIFUL TESTIMONY WE'VE ALREADY HEARD. I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU MY STORY. I WAS BORN IN DUBUQUE, IOWA, 47 YEARS AFTER THE GOOD CITIZENS OF QUAKERTOWN WERE FORCED TO VACATE THEIR ROBUST SMALL COMMUNITY. SO THE CITY OF DENTON COULD BUILD A PARK. I MOVED TO DENTON 95 YEARS AFTER THAT COMMUNITY WAS MOVED OUT. TWO YEARS LATER, I WAS INVITED BY MARTHA LYNN NELSON TO JOIN HER DIVISION OF THE CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS, THE CURRENT CENTURY DEPARTMENT. IT WAS A LOVELY GROUP OF WOMEN WHO MET MONTHLY AT EACH OTHER'S HOMES. THERE WERE ALSO GENERAL MEETINGS AT THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING, AND IN GENERAL, IT WAS A FABULOUS PLACE FOR A NEWCOMER TO GET TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN DENTON, AND TO BE INVITED TO JOIN THE MANY WONDERFUL UNDERTAKINGS OF THE CITY. IF YOU ALL KNEW MARTHA LYNN NELSON, YOU KNEW THAT SHE PROBABLY INVITED YOU TO SOME NEW UNDERTAKING AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH. THE BEING A MEMBER OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB ALSO MEANT THAT WE PARTICIPATED IN A BOOK REVIEW LUNCHEONS MONTHLY, WHICH WE HOSTED AND HAD INTERESTING SPEAKERS. WE BAKE COOKIES FOR THE ARTS IN CLASS ARTS AND JAZZ FESTIVAL. ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE MEMBERS, DONNA TRAMMELL, PROPOSED USING THE WOMEN'S CLUB TO PUT ON ONE OF HER SIGNATURE MUSICAL EVENTS FOR FOUR NIGHTS IN A ROW TO BENEFIT A DIFFERENT NONPROFIT EACH NIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT HAS HELPED THOSE GROUPS RAISE ABOUT $200,000. TO DATE, FAMILIES HAVE RENTED AT A VERY MODEST PRICE THE WOMEN'S CLUB FOR BABY SHOWERS, PIANO RECITALS, WEDDINGS, FUNERALS, HOLIDAY CELEBRATIONS AND OTHER JOYFUL CELEBRATIONS. THE WOMEN WHO ARE CURRENT MEMBERS, LIKE MYSELF, NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING OF THE CLUB 99 YEARS AGO, UNTIL ABOUT THE YEAR 2000, WHEN A TWU GRADUATE STUDENT WHOSE ASSIGNMENT WAS TO DO RESEARCH AND WRITE A PAPER ON SOME ASPECT OF LOCAL HISTORY. I DON'T KNOW WHO INTRODUCED HER TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHO WERE WILLING TO TELL THE STORIES OF QUAKERTOWN, I. I HAVE KNOWN OF OTHER GROUPS, SUCH AS THE JAPANESE WERE WHO WERE REMOVED FROM THEIR HOMES AND HELD IN GUARDED CAMPS 
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DURING WORLD WAR TWO AND WOULD NEVER SHARE THEIR STORY. I'M SO GLAD THAT THOSE FAMILIES HAD THE COURAGE TO BEGIN TO TELL THEIR STORY TO A WHITE HISTORIAN. WHAT HAS THE CITY OF DENTON DONE ABOUT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HISTORY OF QUAKERTOWN? ONE THEY NAMED A PARK IN HONOR OF THE COMMUNITY. IT TOOK THE LAND FROM NUMBER TWO. IT PLACED A FEW MARKERS AROUND THE PARK. NUMBER THREE, IT COMMISSIONED A BRICK SCULPTURE WHICH HANGS IN THE ENTRANCE TO THE CIVIC CENTER. AND MORE RECENTLY, IT PUT DOWN THE MONEY TO BEGIN MAKING A 
          DOCUMENTARY ON QUAKERTOWN. THAT'S MY TIME. >> HOW CLOSE ARE YOU? 
          >> A LITTLE I'VE GOT AWAY. I'VE GOT AWAY. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME HERE, AND I 
          HOPE YOU GO AHEAD AND GIVE US THE EXTENSION OF THE LEASE. >> THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. OH, WE 
          HAVE A QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          PHYLLIS WOOD, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, WHERE WERE YOU GOING WITH THE IDEA OF WHERE THE CITY HAD COMPENSATED FOR? AND IF YOU COULD WRAP THAT UP REALLY QUICKLY. 
          >> I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THAT THE QUAKERTOWN DOCUMENTARY WAS GOTTEN STARTED BY CITY FUNDS. I PERSONALLY KICKED IN A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS TOWARD THAT GOAL, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THAT STORY BE TOLD AND TOLD OFTEN AND TOLD HISTORICALLY CORRECTLY. THAT'S 
          ALL I WANTED TO SAY. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, PHYLLIS. 
          >> APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARY BETH RINKY DOYLE. YOU CAN COME DOWN, 
          GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> HI. 
          >> HELLO. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARY BETH RINKY DOYLE. I'VE BEEN A PROUD RESIDENT OF LITTLE D FOR 42 YEARS. OVER THOSE FOUR DECADES, I'VE INVESTED IN THIS CITY THROUGH DOWNTOWN DENTON, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, HOURS OF VOLUNTEER WORK ALONGSIDE NEIGHBORS WHO LOVE THIS COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS I DO. I'M WRITING TO ASK, WELL, ACTUALLY, I'M NOT WRITING. I'M SPEAKING TO ASK. SORRY, I'M NERVOUS. 
          GUYS, I AM SPEAKING TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF ITEM SIX A ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR THE LEASE RENEWAL BETWEEN THE CITY OF DENTON AND THE DENTON CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS, THE WOMEN'S CLUB, EXCUSE ME, THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING AT 610 OAKLAND STREET IS FAR MORE THAN A STRUCTURE ON LEASE LAND. IT REPRESENTS DECADES OF VOLUNTEER HOURS AND FUNDRAISING, FUNDRAISING BY DENTON WOMEN WHO BUILT AND MAINTAINED IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          GENERATIONS HAVE GIVEN THEIR TIME, THEIR TALENT, THEIR TREASURE TO KEEP ITS DOORS OPEN AND ITS MISSION ALIVE. THAT MISSION MATTERS. THE CLUB SUPPORTS THE ARTS, LITERATURE AND MUSIC IN DENTON, AND IT PROVIDES A PLACE WHERE WOMEN ARE EMPOWERED, MENTORED AND CONNECTED TO ONE ANOTHER AND TO CIVIC LIFE. PROGRAMS THAT BEGIN IN THAT BUILDING RIPPLE OUTWARD TO OUR SCHOOLS, OUR DOWNTOWN, AND THE CULTURAL IDENTITY OF DENTON ITSELF. I WANT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING THAT COMES WITH STEWARDSHIP OF ANY SPACE INSIDE QUAKERTOWN PARK, THE RESPONSIBILITY TO HONOR THE DESCENDANTS OF QUAKERTOWN COMMUNITY AND THE FAMILIES WHO ARE DISPLACED FROM THIS LAND. THAT HISTORY BELONGS TO DENTON, AND IT MUST CONTINUE TO BE TOLD IN OUR PARKS, IN OUR INSTITUTIONS, AND IN THE PARTNERSHIPS THE CITY CHOOSES TO RENEW. THE WOMEN'S CLUB HAS AN ONGOING ROLE TO PLAY IN KEEPING THAT STORY PRESENT AND RENEWING. THIS LEASE KEEPS A WILLING PARTNER AT THE TABLE TO HELP HELP CARRY THAT WORK FORWARD SO NO ONE EVER FORGETS. RENEWING THIS LEASE IS A RECOGNITION OF WHAT ALREADY WORKS, A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND A LONGSTANDING COMMUNITY INSTITUTION THAT HAS EARNED ITS PLACE IN QUAKERTOWN PARK. APPROVING THE RENEWAL ALLOWS THE FEDERATION TO CONTINUE PLANNING, INVESTING AND SERVING WITHOUT DISRUPTION AND TO CONTINUE HONORING THE FULL HISTORY OF THE GROUND IT STANDS ON. I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE LEASE RENEWAL. THE WOMEN'S CLUB IS PART OF THE FABRIC OF DENTON, AND IT DESERVES THE CITY'S CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. 
          >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE QUESTION HERE, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> SORRY. AS SOMEONE YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S TRUE. SOME PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY. IS THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THE FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS? TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE. 
          >> TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NO, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT AT THE TIME WHEN THE PARKLAND WAS WHEN THE BOND BEAUTIFICATION PASSED, I THINK. AND I ALSO SAW THE QUAKERTOWN DOCUMENTARY AND THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WORTHWHILE AND EDUCATIONAL AT THAT TIME. IT SEEMS THAT THE 
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DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY MAY HAVE BEEN ALSO MEMBERS OF AERIAL CLUB AT THAT TIME. I'M NOT CERTAIN KAREN RIGGS, WHO'S MY THE HISTORY BUFF, MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER BETTER TO THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A DAUGHTER OF THE REVOLUTION. SO THERE ARE MEMBERS ALL ACROSS, YOU KNOW, INTERESTS AND WALKS OF LIFE IN THE AERIAL CLUB. 
          >> OKAY. I JUST NEVER HEARD OF THAT CONNECTION. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU. 
          >> IF THE CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS ACTUALLY STARTS FEDERALLY IN DC AND THEN WORKS ITS WAY DOWN, WORKS ITS WAY DOWN TO THE STATE IN AUSTIN AND THEN THE CITY UMBRELLA OF 
          DENTON OR CITY OF DENTON IS UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> OKAY. ONE MORE REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. >> MAYOR, THIS FOR YOU. ARE WE 
          GOING TO HEAR FROM MRS. RIGGS? >> YES, I THINK SO. I HAVE. >> A CARD IN THERE. 
          >> I THINK SO, THERE'S A LOT. >> OF THEM. OKAY. I'LL HAVE I'LL RESERVE MY QUESTION. WHEN? 
          WHEN SHE COMES FORWARD. >> SAVED BY THE BELL. >> NO. WELL DONE. 
          >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL HERON. 
          PASTOR MCILHERRON BETTER SAID FORGIVE ME. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          >> ON THE COUNCIL AND EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MICHAEL HERON AND I LIVE IN THE CITY OF DENTON. AND I'M HERE JUST PROBABLY LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. YOU ALL HAVE HEARD IT. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ADD ANYTHING TO IT. THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THIS LEASE IS CONCERNED. OUR PROCESS IS TO GET US TO A PLACE OF HEALING. AND YOU'VE BEEN SAYING THAT YOU ASK THAT, COUNCILMAN MAGEE, ABOUT HEALING. WHAT DOES HEALING LOOK LIKE? HEALING LOOKS LIKE WHAT IT TAKES TO RECONCILE US TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO MOVE TOWARDS A BETTER PLACE. SO AS IT RELATES TO THIS LEASE, I'M IN OPPOSITION OF IT ALSO OF THE LEASE FOR NOW, SO WE CAN TABLE IT. WHEN SHOULD WE TABLE IT? LET'S GIVE A TIMELINE. LET'S BEGIN TO WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? MAYBE A 60 DAY TIMELINE WITHIN THE 90 DAYS AND SAY, LET'S COME UP WITH AN ANSWER WITHIN 60 DAYS BY MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY, I CAN SEE BASED ON THE SLIDES THAT WERE PRESENTED HERE, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WENT OUT, BUT APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOME PIECES THAT DIDN'T GET REALLY BROUGHT UP UNTIL LATER, AND NOW IT'S FRESH ON THE MINDS. SO LET'S TRY IT AGAIN AND GO AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS MAKING IT FRESH SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A PLACE OF HEALING. THE POINT IS NOT TO BLAME. THE POINT IS NOT TO HOLD THE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST. I DO THINK THAT $1 LEASE FOR 99 YEARS IS RIDICULOUS. I DO THINK THAT WAS RIDICULOUS. THAT WAS THE TIME, AND THAT WAS THE TIME THAT IT WAS AT THAT TIME. SO WE CAN'T LIVE IN THE PAST. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE FUTURE. BUT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE FUTURE, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST SO THAT YOU DO NOT REPEAT THE PAST AGAIN, OR GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM IT. SO I'M ENCOURAGING THE COUNCIL TO GIVE US A PAUSE AND LET US GO BACK TO THE TABLE AND BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT SHOULD WE DO? I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE IT AS A MUSEUM. IF QUAKERTOWN PARK IS GOING TO BE THERE, THEN LET'S LOOK AT QUAKERTOWN MUSEUM AND MAKE IT A MUSEUM FOR QUAKERTOWN MUSEUM. YOU ASK ABOUT THE CIVIC CENTER POOL. I REMEMBER GOING TO THAT POOL AS A KID. WE WALKED TO THAT POOL ON A REGULAR BASIS TO THAT POOL. MAYBE THE DISCUSSION BECOMES BIGGER AND WE MAKE ALL OF THAT QUAKERTOWN, QUAKERTOWN POOL, QUAKERTOWN CIVIC CENTER. MAYBE WE BEGIN TO OPEN IT UP EVEN MORE. MAYBE THAT'S ON THE TABLE WHERE WE BEGIN TO MAKE THAT AREA. BACK TO THAT, I'M OPEN TO THOSE THOUGHTS AND SUGGESTIONS, AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE OPEN TO CONVERSATIONS. I DON'T I DON'T WANT US TO GET HERE AND SAY, WE'RE JUST HERE TO ARGUE AND COMPLAIN AND NOT MOVE FORWARD. 
          LET'S MOVE FORWARD. BUT HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD? AND SO PART OF THAT RECONCILIATION IS LET US GO BACK TO THE TABLE. WE'RE NOT SAYING NO. WE'RE SAYING POSTPONE SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION. AND I'M GOING TO YIELD MY TIME UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS. 
          >> YES, SIR. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. WHAT IF WE'RE NOT BLAMING THAT INSTITUTION, THAT GROUP? WHY HASN'T IT BEEN PROPOSED TO FIND A LOCATION TO DO A MUSEUM IN THAT SAME PARK? RIGHT. HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT PARK? YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE WE'RE DECREASING THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT BUILDING. WHAT IS THERE IF WE'RE NOT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE, WHY CAN'T WE FOR ALL THE ALL THE THINGS, RIGHT? WHY CAN'T WE PUT A MUSEUM SOMEPLACE ELSE? BECAUSE CASE IN POINT, IT WAS REFERENCED THAT THEY CAME THROUGH IN A PINCH. AND FOR THE BLACK FILM FESTIVAL, IF IT'S A MUSEUM, YOU CAN'T USE IT BECAUSE IT'S BUSY BEING A MUSEUM. BUT IF YOU BUILD A MUSEUM THAT'S EXCLUSIVELY FOR THAT IN THAT SAME PARK, IS THAT DOES THAT NOT ACHIEVE THE SAME 
          GOAL? >> I MEAN, NO, IT COMES IT GETS YOU TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE STARTING TO MOVE ANYTHING. I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD THAT BEING PROPOSED ON THE TABLE. 
          >> NO, IT HASN'T, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S TRYING TO GET A POUND OF FLESH OUT OF AN EXISTING BUILDING VERSUS THINKING LIKE, HOW CAN WE GO FORWARD AND GET STUFF DONE AND, AND EVEN BE BETTER? LIKE IF YOU GAVE ME AN OPTION OF A NEW BUILDING OR A BUILDING THAT'S BEEN THERE 99 YEARS, I'D PROBABLY OPT FOR THE NEW BUILDING THAT I CAN DESIGN AND 
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LAY OUT HOW I WANT AND MAKE IT ADA ACCESSIBLE, BECAUSE THAT FIRST STEP IS A DOOZY AT THAT BUILDING. AND IT'S GOT ONE BATHROOM AND THE WOMEN'S BATHROOMS WAY BACK AROUND IN 
          THE CORNER. IT'S NO GOOD. YEAH. YOU KNOW. >> I THINK YOU BRING UP GOOD POINTS. THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WILL BE WHO'S GOING TO FUND THAT? YEAH. AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO COME ABOUT. CERTAINLY GET FUNDED BY THE CITY. OR DO YOU EXPECT THE DESCENDANTS OF 
          QUAKERTOWN TO FUND IT? >> NO, NO I DON'T. I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR THE FUTURE. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT'S LIKE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TIE WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO AT LEAST. YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT. YEAH. 
          SO AND. >> I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE NEED. 
          >> TO HAVE. >> AND BEGIN TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 
          >> I KNEW I COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU, WITH YOU. SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY 
          MUCH. >> APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU. YES, SIR. NEXT 
          SPEAKER, GREG JOHNSON. NEED SOME WALK UP MUSIC? >> YES, SIR. YOU HAVE A PLACE, YOUR BODY PARTS. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD NIGHT. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. KEEP IT REAL. 
          I'M NOT HERE FOR A ZONING CASE. I'M HERE BECAUSE MY WIFE MADE ME COME. SO IF I'M HERE, I MIGHT AS WELL TALK. MY NAME IS GREG JOHNSON, 3190 TEASLEY. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RESIDENTS OF QUAKERTOWN PARK OF QUAKERTOWN 100 YEARS AGO WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. IT WAS TERRIBLE AND IT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. THANKFULLY, WE HAVE IMPROVED AS A SOCIETY AND THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN TODAY. OH COME ON, PUNISHING THE WOMEN OF THIS LOCAL AERIAL CLUBS, WHICH HAS MEMBERS OF MANY RACES AND DO MUCH CHARITY WORK, WOULD BE WRONG. TAKING THIS VENUE AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE WRONG. TWO NEGATIVES DO NOT MAKE A POSITIVE. THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE VENUE FOR EVENTS. HAVING PAID FOR TWO WEDDING RECEPTIONS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, I CAN TELL YOU THERE AREN'T MANY AFFORDABLE VENUES. I'VE BEEN TO QUINCEANERAS THERE. 
          I'VE BEEN TO A FAMILY REUNION THERE. I'VE BEEN TO KICKOFF PARTIES FOR CANDIDATES THERE. 
          IT'S USED FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES BY PEOPLE OF MANY RACES, AND IT'S OPEN TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. THE CITY DOESN'T NEED OR WANT THE BUILDING. YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REPAIR ALL THE BUILDINGS YOU'VE GOT, AND I PROMISE YOU, YOU DON'T WANT THAT ONE. I'VE BEEN IN IT. OTHER BUILDINGS LOCATED ON QUAKERTOWN LAND HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. SO WHERE DO WE STOP? ARE WE GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE EMILY FOWLER LIBRARY? WE'RE GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE POOL. WHERE DOES IT STOP? I'M GLAD SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER. YOU KNOW, THE SINS OF THE FATHERS. I'M VERY THANKFUL TO PAY FOR MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHER'S SINS. 
          THERE HAS BEEN FOUR YEARS OF TIME FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. WHEN I SAT IN A SEAT RIGHT THERE WITH JILL SITTING BEFORE I TOOK THAT SEAT THE FIRST TIME, AN OLD WISE GUY WHO USED TO SIT IN THAT SEAT SAID, EVERY TIME YOU VOTE, YOU'RE GOING TO OFF SOMEBODY AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOMEBODY HAPPY. THE ONES YOU MAKE HAPPY WILL NEVER CALL YOU. AND SO THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, WHEN YOU TOOK THAT SEAT, YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T LOOKING TO BE POPULAR. YOU WERE PROBABLY LOOKING TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER AND DO THE RIGHT THING. RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE TO CHECK YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA AT THE DOOR WHEN YOU TAKE THAT SEAT. SO THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THERE'S BEEN FOUR YEARS OF TIME FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND CONVERSATION, AND YOU CAN KICK THE CAN SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE. AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE UP THERE WHEN THE VOTE HAPPENS. WELL, THAT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TODAY IS TO VOTE. 
          YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, MAKE A CALL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. YEAH. NO. AND I WILL SAY, I KNOW YOU GOT GROUSES, BUT I TEND TO BELIEVE THAT AS DENTON'S FIRST BLACK MAYOR, DENTON IS PRETTY OKAY. AND IT'S A REALLY GREAT CITY. 
          AND THEY'RE VERY UNDERSTANDING AND THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE GIVE A GUY FROM DENTON A SHOT FROM SOUTHEAST DENTON, FROM WILLOW CREEK, ALL THE THINGS. RIGHT. AND I THINK IT'S A PRETTY FANTASTIC CITY. SO I ECHO YOUR STATEMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. LEAH JOHNSON, NEXT SPEAKER. IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LEAH JOHNSON AND I AM THE WIFE OF GREG JOHNSON. DO NOT HOLD THAT AGAINST ME, PLEASE. I THOUGHT WE NEEDED A LITTLE HUMOR. SO I AM DENTON RESIDENT AND A MEMBER OF THE ARIEL CLUB. I DID NOT GROW UP IN DENTON, AND WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I DID NOT KNOW THE FULL HISTORY OF THE CITY OR OF QUAKERTOWN PARK OR OF QUAKERTOWN. OVER TIME I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND MORE, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT HISTORY IS IMPORTANT AND IT DESERVES TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND HONORED. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO PERSONALLY IS WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED SINCE BECOMING A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. THE 
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WOMEN OF THE ARIEL CLUB AND THE FEDERATION WELCOMED ME IN, AND THROUGH THAT I HAVE FOUND CONNECTION AND A DEEPER SENSE OF BELONGING IN DENTON. THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING IS A BIG PART OF THAT. IT'S NOT JUST A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, IT'S AN ACTIVE LIVING SPACE THAT SERVES THIS COMMUNITY EVERY DAY, FROM LUNCHEONS THAT BRING IN EDUCATIONAL AND ENGAGING SPEAKERS, TO EVENTS LIKE BREAKFAST WITH SANTA, TO THE MANY GATHERINGS HOSTED THERE. 
          IT IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER. IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE FEW TRULY AFFORDABLE VENUES IN DENTON. AS MY HUSBAND SAID, PAYING FOR A WEDDING RECEPTION SPACE OR A QUINCEANERA SPACE OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS VERY. AN AFFORDABLE SPACE IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND, AND THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING DOES AFFORD THAT. RECEPTIONS, FAMILY REUNIONS, QUINCEANERAS AND CELEBRATIONS THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE OUT OF REACH FOR MANY FAMILIES AND THAT ACCESSIBILITY MATTERS. THE FEDERATION'S MISSION IS CENTERED ON SERVING THE COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATION, CULTURE AND CONNECTION, AND THE BUILDING IS THE VEHICLE THAT MAKES THAT POSSIBLE. RENEWING THIS LEASE PROVIDES THE STABILITY NEEDED TO CONTINUE THAT WORK, TO CARE FOR THE BUILDING, AND TO ENSURE IT REMAINS A SPACE THAT SERVES ALL OF DENTON. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THE LEASE RENEWAL AND ALLOW THE SPACE TO CONTINUE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR 
          COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS 
          LIAM WAKEFIELD. >> HELLO. I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS BRIEF BECAUSE WE'RE ALL PRETTY TIRED AND PROBABLY WANT TO GO HOME AT THIS POINT, BUT THERE'S LIKE, THIS IS A BIG QUESTION WITH A LONG HISTORY. I REMEMBER LEARNING ABOUT THIS IN EIGHTH GRADE AND WE. THEY TAUGHT US ABOUT IT, AND WE REREAD A BOOK BASED ON THE, THE OF THE EVENT HAPPENING. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE BOOK IT WAS, BUT IT ALWAYS SORT OF LIKE STUCK WITH ME. THERE'S. LIKE THIS SORT OF DECISIONS HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY LIKE IN THE SOUTHEAST DIDN'T WANT OR, OR THE ORIGINAL COMMUNITY LIKE I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SOME A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME BEFORE THE CITY HAS TO SIGN IT JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER. AT THE VERY LEAST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL COME OF THE PROCESS OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN DURING IT, BUT AT LEAST TRY TO DO IT. I CONCEDE MY TIME AND 
          THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS. PEYTON SWICK. IF YOU CAN GIVE 
          YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS PEYTON SWICK. 
          MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I AM A FIFTH GENERATION TONIGHT AND I SUPPORT RENEWING THIS LEASE. THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING REPRESENTS NEARLY A CENTURY OF HOUSING DEDICATION BY DENTON WOMEN WHO HAVE INVESTED THEIR TIME, TALENT AND RESOURCES TO SUSTAIN IT. THE FEDERATION BRINGS TOGETHER WOMEN OF ALL AGES AND BACKGROUNDS TO LEAD, LEARN AND GROW TOGETHER THROUGH SCHOLARSHIPS, PROGRAMS, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. IT CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN OUR CITY, PROVIDING MEANINGFUL RETURNS ON ITS PLACE IN QUAKERTOWN PARK, RENEWING THIS LEASE, WHICH IS ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR, RECOGNIZES A PARTNERSHIP THAT WORKS AND ENSURES IT CONTINUES. BENEFIT TO DENTON. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR 
          YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER JORDAN VILLARREAL, GIVE YOUR 
          NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JORDAN VILLARREAL. I LIVE AT 5201 PARR DRIVE. I'M HONORED TO SPEAK HERE TODAY AS THE COUNCILMAN ELECT FOR DISTRICT ONE. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE TO POSTPONE THE DENTON WOMAN'S CLUB LEASE RENEWAL TONIGHT. THIS BUILDING SITS IN QUAKERTOWN PARK ON LAND TIED TO THE FORCED REMOVAL OF OUR HISTORICALLY BLACK COMMUNITY AND RENEWING ANOTHER LONG TERM LEASE ON PRIME PUBLIC PROPERTY WITHOUT A BROADER, TRANSPARENT PROCESS ONLY SERVES TO REPEAT THAT HISTORY INSTEAD OF REPAIRING IT. A POSTPONEMENT IS THE RESPONSIBLE CHOICE. IT WOULD ALLOW TIME FOR REAL ENGAGEMENT WITH SOUTHEAST DENTON RESIDENTS AND QUAKERTOWN DESCENDANTS, EVALUATION OF FAIR MARKET AND REVENUE SHARING OPTIONS, AND EXPLORATION OF ALTERNATIVES THAT REFLECT, DENTON STATED. COMMITMENTS TO RACIAL EQUITY, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND RESTORATIVE JUSTICE. IT WOULD ALSO GIVE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE ITSELF ON THE HISTORY 
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OF THE FORCED REMOVAL OF QUAKERTOWN RESIDENTS FROM THEIR HOMES. PLEASE DO NOT LOCK IN ANOTHER LONG TERM DEAL TONIGHT. POSTPONE THIS ITEM FOR COMMUNITY INPUT. BASED ON THE TURNOUT I'M SEEING AT THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE COMMUNITY IS CLEARLY ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT. IF MORE TIME IS NEEDED, A SHORTER TERM LEASE SHOULD BE PROPOSED. INSTEAD. 
          VOTE TO POSTPONE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES AND ENSURE THIS 
          PUBLIC ASSET SERVES THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER IS KIMBERLY THAGGARD. HOLD ON. KIMBERLY THAGGARD, IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, 
          YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. I AM DOCTOR KIMBERLY THAGGARD. I HAVE SERVED THIS CITY AS A MEMBER ON P AND Z, A CITY BOND COMMITTEE MEMBER TWICE AND MOST PROUDLY AS A TEACHER AND ADMINISTRATOR AT DENTON HIGH SCHOOL FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS. I WANT COUNCIL TO KNOW WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T SEE AS IT CONCERNS THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING. THE FEDERATION HAS CARRIED THE COST, BOTH FINANCIAL AND VOLUNTARY, OF MAINTAINING THIS HISTORIC BUILDING FOR NEARLY A CENTURY. SOMEONE ASKED EARLIER, WHO WILL PAY FOR THE BUILDING? THE WOMEN OF ARIEL CLUB HAVE PAID FOR IT FOR 100 YEARS. I CANNOT COUNT HOW MANY JAZZ FEST FOLKS OF ALL CREEDS AND COLORS HAVE RUN TO. HOW MANY JAZZ FESTS THAT FOLKS OF ALL CREEDS AND COLORS HAVE RUN TO HER SHELTER DURING THE RAIN, LEAVING MUD AND WATER IN THEIR WAKE? OR HOW MANY CRUMBS THE FEDERATION LADIES HAVE VACUUMED TIRELESSLY AFTER A BOOK REVIEW, LAUNCH OR EVENT. WE'RE NOT ASKING CITY FOR FUNDING. WE'RE ASKING FOR A LEASE THAT RECOGNIZES A BUILDING WE ALREADY OWN, AND INSTEAD WE HAVE ALWAYS CARRIED, NOT FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR THE CITY OF DENTON AND THE GENERATIONS OF WOMEN THAT WILL FOLLOW AND CONTINUE TO SERVE IT. JUST A MOMENT AGO, I SAW A UNIFIED COUNCIL STAND UP AND APPLAUD A GROUP OF HARD WORKING, FOCUSED AND DEDICATED WOMEN IN THE TWU GYMNASTICS TEAM. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO THE SAME FOR ANOTHER GROUP OF WOMEN WITH SIMILAR FOCUS, DISCIPLINE AND PURSUITS TO THE VERY FIRST SPEAKERS POINT WOMEN WHO I BELIEVE ARE NOT ONLY CAPABLE OF MAKING DENTON BETTER, BUT WHO HAVE MADE DENTON BETTER. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE, PLEASE VOTE TO CONTINUE THE LEASE SO WE CAN CONTINUE OUR GREAT WORK. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. NEXT IS. HOLD ON, DIANE. DANA, DUNKLAU. I DON'T WANT TO MISPRONOUNCE IT. THERE 
          YOU GO. >> THANK YOU. >> I DO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO 
          BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. >> DIANA CLOUGH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN DENTON, AND I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE FEDERATION FOR OVER TEN YEARS. MY MOTHER WAS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE ARIEL CLUBS, AND SHE WAS IN ONE OF THE OLDER CLUBS. I THINK THAT THAT CHAPTER HAS HISTORY IN THE 1800S AND OVER THE YEARS BEFORE I EVEN BELONGED TO FEDERATION, SHE BROUGHT ME TO EVENTS AND THAT DENTON WOMAN'S CLUB BUILDING. IT'S BEEN A LANDMARK SINCE 1928, AND MY MOM HEARD SEAN MENTIONED THE WOMEN'S INTERRACIAL FELLOWSHIP. SHE WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER IN DENTON WOMEN INTERRACIAL FELLOWSHIP, AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS TO MAINTAIN AND HELP KEEP THE BUILDING UP. 
          THERE WERE A LOT OF FUNDRAISERS AND CHARITABLE EVENTS, WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND FAMILY AND CULTURAL EVENTS. A FEW YEARS AGO, WE HAD ON THE NATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY, WE HAD A PANEL OF SPEAKERS FROM TWU, FROM UNT, FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE WHO SPOKE ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO WOMEN. I THINK THAT THE BUILDING OFFERS AN AFFORDABLE CHANCE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR EVENTS, CHARITABLE OR OTHERWISE, IN A VERY NICE FACILITY. I BELIEVE THAT WITH MY MOM'S DEDICATION TO. DESEGREGATION BACK IN THE 70S AND HER WORK IN THE ARIEL CLUB, IT ALSO SAYS TO ME THAT TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE. YOU CAN SUPPORT DIVERSITY IN A RECONCILIATION FOR THE QUAKERTOWN DESCENDANTS, BUT YOU CAN ALSO HONOR THE CHARITABLE WORK THAT THE WOMEN HAVE GIVEN TO THE DENTON WOMAN'S CLUB BUILDING. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. SO I'M ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE RENEW OUR LEASE ON TERMS THAT WILL PROTECT WHAT GENERATIONS OF DENTON WOMEN HAVE BUILT AND WHAT GENERATIONS OF DENTON FAMILIES HAVE USED. 
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          >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE. 
          DISTRICT FIVE. >> YOU JUST SAID TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE. WE CAN DO BOTH, RIGHT? 
          YES. TELL US HOW. >> WELL, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY I MEAN, THE BUILDING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT PERHAPS THERE'S A WAY THAT CAN BE GIVEN FURTHER DISCOUNTS TO QUAKER TOWNS RESIDENTS OR. REVEREND LOGAN MENTIONED A NAME CHANGE THAT WOULD HONOR QUAKER TOWN. PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE DENTON WOMAN'S CLUB BUILDING AT QUAKER TOWN. NO OFFENSE, REVEREND LOGAN. I THINK THAT THERE MAY BE A WAY TO PROVIDE A SECTION INSIDE THE BUILDING FOR HISTORICAL MONUMENTS, OR MAYBE STORIES TOLD, I THINK ON ON THE WALLS, THERE COULD BE PLACARDS THAT TELL WHERE THE BUILDING ORIGINATED. WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SWALLOW OUR PRIDE AND ALLOW THAT THERE WERE THINGS IN THE ORIGINS OF OUR GROUP THAT WERE NOT PALATABLE. I THINK THOSE 
          THINGS COULD HELP MAYBE BRING THE TWO GROUPS TOGETHER. >> I RECOGNIZE YOU'RE JUST ONE MEMBER AND YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR YOURSELF, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. AND. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THAT THAT STRIKES ME THOUGH. I MEAN, I THINK IF WE'RE IF WE'RE CALLING OUT THOSE THINGS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING IN THIS CITY HALL THAT POINTS OUT ALL THAT THE THAT THEY VOTED AND DID ALL THESE THINGS. O'NEIL FORD IS IS RECOGNIZED, BUT IT DOESN'T MENTION THAT HE WENT TO SEGREGATED SCHOOLS. SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ON THIS PRIVATE GROUP, THE CITY SHOULD LEAD. AND AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AT THE CITY FACILITIES AND. AND SO YOU CAN START THERE. BUT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD LEAD BY EXAMPLE THERE. JANET SHELTON. YOU CAN 
          COME DOWN, GIVE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS JANET SHELTON. 
          I'M A LIFELONG DENTON CITIZEN. MY FIRST MEMORY OF THE WOMEN'S BUILDING WAS BEING IN ONE OF THOSE RECITALS, PIANO RECITALS, WHEN I WAS ABOUT 6 OR 7 YEARS OLD. THE. I DID NOT COME PREPARED FOR THE CONTROVERSY THAT IS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT HAD EVER BEEN PROPOSED THAT IT BE A MUSEUM, WHICH. I LOVE THE IDEA AS WELL, BUT I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE BUILDING NEW BUILDINGS OR INCORPORATING IT INTO OURS IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. I, I REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT THE CITY WANTING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE WOMEN. 
          YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY I DIDN'T KNOW. BUT IN ANY CASE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEASE. IT CERTAINLY IS NOT A UNFAIR LEASE. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A PENNY A YEAR FOR 100 YEARS. IT'S DOUBLE. AND WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF DECISIONS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE MADE WITH REGARD TO SCHEDULING, MAINTAINING ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT BUILDING IS A JEWEL TO THE CITY OF DENTON, JUST LIKE THE EMILY FOWLER LIBRARY IS A JEWEL, JUST LIKE THAT BRIDGE OVER THE QUAKERTOWN IS A JEWEL. AND AND THE CITY POOL IS A JEWEL. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY, AND KAREN PROBABLY GOING TO SAY THIS TOO, WOMEN DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE WHEN THIS ORGANIZATION WAS FORMED. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS FORMED, IS SO THAT WOMEN COULD GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT INTELLIGENT THINGS AND HAVE IDEAS AND HELP EDUCATION AND PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS AND THINGS OF THAT 
          NATURE. SO I HOPE THAT WE GET THIS RESOLVED. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS LINDSEY. AND I CAN'T IT STARTS WITH M MILLER. THANK YOU. 
          >> HELLO, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS LINDSEY MILLER. I MOVED TO DENTON IN 1988, AND I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE FEDERATION FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS, FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF MY MOTHER, WHO HAS BEEN A MEMBER FOR ALMOST THREE DECADES. FOR US AND SO MANY WOMEN IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE DENTON WOMEN'S CLUB IS NOT JUST AN ORGANIZATION, IT IS PART OF OUR 
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FAMILY HISTORY. THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING HAS SERVED DENTON SINCE 1928. FOR NEARLY A CENTURY, IT HAS BEEN A PLACE WHERE WOMEN GATHERED TO LEAD, TO SERVE, AND TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS. GENERATIONS OF DENTON FAMILIES HAVE PASSED THROUGH ITS DOORS FOR EVENTS, PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY GATHERINGS. ALL ARE AND HAVE BEEN WELCOME. THAT LEGACY MATTERS NOT JUST TO US, BUT TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE. THE FEDERATION OWNS THE BUILDING AND THE CITY OWNS THE LAND BENEATH IT. FOR DECADES, THAT PARTNERSHIP HAS WORKED BECAUSE IT IS ROOTED IN SHARED PURPOSE AND MUTUAL RESPECT. WE HAVE MAINTAINED AND CARED FOR THIS HISTORIC BUILDING AT OUR OWN EXPENSE, AND IT IS EXPENSIVE, ENSURING IT REMAINS A VIBRANT, ACTIVE SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE LANDMARK, BUT FOR A LIVING PART OF DENTON. EXCUSE ME. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THAT YOU RENEW OUR LEASE ON TERMS THAT HONOR, THAT LONG STANDING PARTNERSHIP, AND PROTECT WHAT GENERATIONS OF DENTON WOMEN HAVE BUILT. THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO THE WOMEN OF DENTON FOR NEARLY A CENTURY. WITH YOUR SUPPORT, IT CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE GENERATIONS TO COME. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
          CONSIDERATION. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS GEORGE FERRY. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GEORGE FERRY. I LIVE IN NORTH DENTON. HAVE FOR 21 YEARS. I HOPE THAT WHAT WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS REALLY RESONATING WITH ALL OF COUNCIL. I HAVE FRIENDS WHO SPOKE IN FOR IN FAVOR OF THIS, AND I HAVE HAD FRIENDS WHO'VE SPOKEN AGAINST THIS TONIGHT. AND I THINK FOR ME, I WONDER AS A PARKS BOARD MEMBER FROM 2018 TO 2024, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE WASN'T REALLY A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE BUILDING. THE SAME WAS SAID OF THE DENTON DOWNTOWN DESIGN PLAN, WHICH EMPHASIZED THAT OUR PRIORITY NUMBER ONE IS TO RECOGNIZE THE PAST AND ACKNOWLEDGE PAST INJUSTICES, BUT THAT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE DESIGN DENTON DOWNTOWN PLAN THAT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION. LIKE MY GOOD FRIEND FRANCES PUNCH SAID WHEN WE BOTH SERVED ON PARKS BOARD TOGETHER, THAT WAS ALSO PUT IN THE BACKUP THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE THING THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE PRIORITY. I WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED. THAT'S MY QUESTION. THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TO YOU GUYS. THE NEXT ONE IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHARITABLE, EDUCATIONAL AND LITERACY DRIVEN, FOCUSED AGENCIES, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER NON-PROFITS THAT DO THAT WITHOUT A SPACE. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE DECREASED FOOTPRINT THAT WAS MENTIONED IS BECAUSE WE REMOVED PARKING, AM I CORRECT? IT'S THAT THE PARKING WAS REMOVED AND WAS GIVEN BACK TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT'S IN THE SAME LOT AS THE PUBLIC LIBRARY. SO IT'S NOT A DECREASE IN ACTUAL WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO USE INSIDE THEIR SPACE. HOW DO WE GET TO THAT FAIR LAND ASSESSMENT AND WHY AREN'T THEY BEING CHARGED MONTHLY? WHY AREN'T WE HAVING A MORE EQUITABLE CONVERSATION? LIKE ANOTHER GOOD FRIEND HAD BROUGHT UP ONE PENNY FOR 100 YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE CHARGING THEM OVER THE COURSE OF 20, A $24,000 ESTIMATE OF LAND VALUE AT ABOUT $1,200 A YEAR. PEOPLE'S RENTS ARE HIGHER THAN THAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT THERE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THAT VALUE CAME FROM. 
          YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE OPEN TO HAVING A CONVERSATION AND THAT THE CITY SHOULD LEAD THE EFFORT? MAYOR HUDSPETH SAID THAT. I'M OPEN TO THAT. THE PROBLEM IS, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE SCREEN THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ON THREE OF THE FIVE DATES THAT ARE LISTED. WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THE WOMEN'S BUILDING AT ALL. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING NOT BEING A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP FOR, IS TO ASK TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY. I ALSO WANT TO KNOW, OR I WANT TO BRING AWARENESS THAT LIKE, YES, IT IS A VERY AFFORDABLE PLACE. I'VE BEEN TO BABY SHOWERS THERE. I'VE BEEN TO WEDDINGS THERE ALSO, IT'S $20 AN HOUR TO RENT A CITY SPACE FOR RESIDENTS. LIKE IF YOU WANT TO RENT THE WOMEN'S HALL A OR B IN MLK REC CENTER, IT'S $20 AN HOUR. HEALING FOR ME AS A QUEER, NON-BINARY PERSON LOOKS LIKE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE, WHICH IS CREATING OPPORTUNITIES TO FORWAO THAT HARM IS NOT CREATED OR CAUSED AGAIN. AND THAT'S MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE. AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CHANGE THE LEASE FROM 20 YEARS TO MAYBE A YEAR OR FIVE YEARS TO MATCH THE CPI METRIC THAT YOU ATTACH TO IT. RIGHT. WHY IS THE LEASE 20? LET'S SHORTEN IT. 
          THANKS. >> SO. CHRIS. >> CHRISTINE. NO, NO. CHRISTINE, CAN YOU CAN YOU GO BACK OVER AND, AND SAY, GIVE THE MATH AGAIN? MAYBE IT GOT MISSED. 
          >> LET ME SEE. >> OKAY. >> SO THE FAIR MARKET VALUE DETERMINATION WAS DONE OFF A RECENT ANOTHER CITY PROPERTY LAND VALUE. SO THAT'S APPRAISED AT BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, $27,720 A YEAR IS WHAT THE VALUE OF THE LAND UNDER THE 
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BUILDING IS. SO WE BROKE IT UP INTO TWO COMPONENTS OF THE FEDERATION WOULD PAY THE ANNUAL RENT OF THE 1320, WHICH IS REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 24 FULL DAY RENTALS. SO THOSE 24 FULL DAYS WILL BE UP TO THE CITY TO PROGRAM OR GIVE TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH CITY SPONSORED EVENTS. AND SO THAT'S THE 26,000 PLUS THE 1320 FOR THE INCREASE IN THE LEASE 
          HEARD. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'VE SPENT TO UPKEEP THE HOME THAT THEY USE AS A SPACE. THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW. AGAIN, ONE PENNY FOR 100 YEARS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. 
          >> AND THEN IF JUST TO SPEAK TO THE OTHER THE OTHER POINT, AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING TONIGHT OR WHENEVER, IF WE DON'T, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE TONIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO BUILD ANYTHING. THOSE THOSE SPACES ARE LEASED AND THERE'S NO. SO IT LIMITS THE FOOTPRINT BY WHICH YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING ELSE. SO IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT THOSE THAT THAT IS HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED. SO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT LAND TO. THEN IF WE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE HAVE A FOOTPRINT BY WHICH TO EITHER CONNECT OR BUILD OR UTILIZE. CURRENTLY DOING NOTHING. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING THERE BECAUSE IT'S LEASED AND ACCOUNTED FOR. SO THAT'S IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. THE NEXT SPEAKER, MICHELLE JONES. IF YOU CAN COME DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          >> HELLO, I'M MICHELLE JONES, I'M A RESIDENT OF DENTON. I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 25, 26 YEARS. 
          I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION CLUBS. I'VE ONLY BEEN A MEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT I HAVE LONG BEEN AWARE OF THE BUILDING BASED ON THE CHARITABLE FUNCTIONS THAT I'VE ATTENDED, HELPED HOST, THAT BENEFITED OUR DAILY BREAD. THE INTERFAITH MINISTRIES, SALVATION ARMY. THE HEARTS FOR HOMES, THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT THOSE FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES HAVE BENEFITED. AND I'VE ATTENDED THOSE AND ACTUALLY WORKED AT DIFFERENT ONES AS WELL AS THE ARTS AND JAZZ FEST. SO TODAY WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE LEASE THAT'S BEEN SPONSORED HERE. AND IT IS JUST A LAND LEASE. IT'S THE BUILDING BELONGS TO THE WOMEN'S CLUBS, AND THEY HAVE MAINTAINED IT AND SPENT THE MONEY TO UPKEEP 100 YEAR OLD BUILDING. AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AT NO EXPENSE TO THE CITY. THEY WILL INCUR THAT COST AND BEAR THAT COST, AND CONTINUE TO USE IT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND IT. AND WE HOPE TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AND BENEFIT THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE LEASE. AND BY APPROVING THE LEASE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES AND CONTINUE TO TRY TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AND HELPFUL IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WE CAN BE. 
          >> SO THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS KAREN RIGGS. OH, NO. NO, I'M SORRY I GOT IT WRONG. YEAH. NO, BUT YEAH, KAREN RIGGS NEXT AND THEN CLAY RIGGS, THEN THAT'S ALL THE CARDS I HAVE. IS THAT 
          RIGHT? MATTERS NOT WHATEVER'S EASIEST. >> YES. MR. 
          >> MR. >> KAREN. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YEAH. 
          >> WELL, SO MY NAME IS ACTUALLY NOT MR. KAREN RIGGS. IT IS ACTUALLY CLAY RIGGS. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGAIN. I'VE LIVED IN DENTON MY ENTIRE LIFE. I WAS ACTUALLY BORN HERE. IN FACT, MY WIFE AND I ARE FLOW BABIES. AND. YEAH, AND MY FAMILY HAS BEEN PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION. MY MY WIFE IS A MEMBER. MY MOTHER'S A MEMBER, MY GRANDMOTHER IS A MEMBER AND MY DAUGHTER IS A MEMBER. AND SO THIS THIS HAS LONG GENERATIONAL RUNNINGS, BUT I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF RENEWING THIS GROUND LEASE WITH THE WOMEN OF DENTON. THE BUILDING OWNS THE THE CITY OWNS THE LAND, BUT THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION OWNS THE BUILDING. 
          SO THE WOMEN OF THIS ORGANIZATION RAISED THE FUNDS, HIRED A CONTRACTOR, BUILT THE FACILITY, PAID BACK THE LOAN THAT THEY HAD TO TAKE OUT IN ORDER TO BUILD THE BUILDING AND HAVE OPERATED, MAINTAINED AND INSURED THE BUILDING FOR NEARLY A CENTURY. AND THIS LEASE IS A LEGALLY BINDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO PARTIES, THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION AND COUNCIL. 
          SO STAFF, ATTORNEYS, CITY STAFF AND THEIR CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE WORKED WITH THE FEDERATION AND 
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THEIR ATTORNEYS FOR OVER SIX MONTHS TO GET YOU THIS LEASE AGREEMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU NOW. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS JUST WRITTEN UP IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT TABLING THIS ITEM AND FOR ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF THE QUAKER TOWN. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS. AND THERE STILL IS MUCH HEALING AND COORDINATION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR. THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH MEMBERS AND MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU CAN COUNT TO YOU CAN SAY HOW MANY MONTHS WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO ORGANIZE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN ENGAGE WITH THOSE PEOPLE. I SAY WE I FEEL LIKE I'M WE BECAUSE I'M MARRIED TO THE PERSON. BUT. BUT I CAN ALSO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE CURRENTLY PLANNING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT MEETING WITH THE CONGREGATIONS THERE AND ACTUALLY A SCREENING OF THE QUAKER TOWN USA DOCUMENTARY FILM AT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. NOW. NOW, THAT IS, THE LEASE AGREEMENT REQUIRES FEDERATION TO ENGAGE. I'M SORRY, AS PART OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY BEEN KIND OF UNDERSTOOD. PART OF THAT LEASE AGREEMENT IS THAT THE WOMEN OF THE FEDERATION WILL ENGAGE AND WORK IN COOPERATION WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF QUAKER TOWN PARK THAT'S WRITTEN INTO THIS LEASE AGREEMENT, AND THAT THAT MEANS, I THINK IT SPECIFICALLY STATES PARTNERS THROUGH PROGRAMING, SIGNAGE, EVENTS THAT HONOR AND REVEAL THE HISTORY OF QUAKER TOWN. IT ALSO INCLUDES ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THIS WORK HAPPENS. 
          SO NOT ONLY THE LEASE AGREEMENT, DOES IT SAY THAT THE FEDERATION HAS TO WORK WITH THE GROUPS, BUT ALSO THAT THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO THE CITY ANNUALLY WHAT THOSE ACTIONS ARE. 
          >> NOW? >> HOW CLOSE? >> I'M I'M PRETTY CLOSE. SO BASICALLY, IN SHORT, THE GROUND LEASE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION, THE LEASE ALREADY REQUIRES ONGOING COLLABORATION WITH THE RESIDENTS OF QUAKER TOWN AND CREATES ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH ANNUAL REPORTING. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE YES. HONOR THE NEARLY 100 YEAR PARTNERSHIP. ALLOW THE WOMEN TO CONTINUE THEIR CIVIC WORK AND SUPPORT CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF QUAKERTOWN. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST SPEAKER, THE LAST CARD, KAREN RIGGS. IF YOU COME 
          DOWN AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO, YES, KAREN RIGGS AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FEDERATION. SO I HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT. SO YES, MY NAME IS KAREN RIGGS, AND I AM A PROUD LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THIS OF OUR GREAT CITY OF DENTON. I LIVE AT 3812 LAKE COUNTRY DRIVE HERE IN DENTON, AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF DENTON CITY FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS, AND I AM ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO RENEW OUR GROUND LEASE BETWEEN THE CITY OF DENTON AND THE CITY FEDERATION AT 610 OAKLAND STREET, A BUILDING. OUR ORGANIZATION IS OWNED, OPERATED AND MAINTAINED SINCE 1928. I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS SOME MISCONCEPTIONS THAT I'VE HEARD IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY ADDRESSED SEVERAL TIMES THIS EVENING. THE CITY OF DENTON OWNS THE LAND AND WE OWN THE BUILDING. THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WE'VE ALSO ADDRESSED A COUPLE OF TIMES IS THAT THAT BUILDING IS OPEN TO ANYONE. ANYONE CAN USE THAT SPACE. IT IS RENTED. IT DOES NOT MATTER YOUR RACE. IT DOES NOT MATTER YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. THAT BUILDING IS OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO ANYONE. AS AN EXAMPLE TO SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR NONPROFITS, I THINK IT'S ALSO BEEN MENTIONED THAT DONALD TRAMMELL GROUP HAS RENTED THAT FACILITY SINCE 2016 AND HELD THEIR ANNUAL FUNDRAISING EVENT. THEY HAVE RAISED OVER 20/200,000 DOLLARS TO GIVE BACK TO LOCAL NONPROFITS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THE STORYTELLING FESTIVAL USES THAT FACILITY. ARTS AND JAZZ FEST USES THAT FACILITY FOR THEIR WEEK LONG PREPARATION, SETTING UP FOR ARTS AND JAZZ FEST, AND THEN ALSO FOR THE WEEKEND DURING THAT FESTIVAL, THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING GAVE DENTON WOMEN A PLACE TO ENGAGE WITH LITERATURE, ART, MUSIC, AND AT A TIME WHEN PUBLIC SPACES WERE CLOSED TO THEM. AND TODAY, PROGRAMS CONTINUE THAT LEGACY, FOCUSING ON THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF WOMEN. FOR EXAMPLE, JUST LAST MONTH WE FOCUSED ON WOMEN COMPOSERS, SO WE FOCUS ON WOMEN AND WOMEN ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THE WOMEN BEFORE US CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY, WHERE WE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON COUNCIL, WHERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A FEMALE CITY MANAGER. THE WOMEN OF DENTON CREATED THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. THE WOMEN OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB MOVEMENT CREATED THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE CANNOT CORRECT THE PAST. THE DISPLACEMENT OF THE QUAKER TOWN RESIDENTS IN THE EARLY 1920S WAS A PROFOUND INJUSTICE, AND THAT HISTORY DESERVES TO BE TOLD FULLY AND HONESTLY, HONORING THAT HISTORY AND HONORING THE WOMEN WHO BUILT AND SUSTAINED THAT. WOMEN ARE NOT IN CONFLICT, AND BOTH CAN BE TRUE. EXCUSE ME. WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO STOP THE HATE TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER. WE ARE NEIGHBORS. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO HONOR THE HISTORY OF QUAKER 
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TOWN. I APOLOGIZE NOT RENEWING THE LEASE TONIGHT COULD TAKE AWAY A SPACE THAT HAS PROVIDED UNITY, COLLABORATION, AFFORDABILITY AND A STAPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY SINCE 1928. A SPACE THE FEDERATION IS BUILT, PAID FOR AND STEWARDED FOR 98 YEARS. AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE 
          YES TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN. 
          ONE ONE CARD. NO, NO. I'LL GO. JUST ONE CARD THAT DID NOT WISH TO SPEAK IS IN SUPPORT. SO THAT IS EVERYONE. AND SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I'LL JUST SAY FROM MY NOTES IF STAFF COULD I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE IT AT THE READY, BUT I GUESS THERE'S I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THERE'S IN COMMITTEES, THERE'S SUGGESTIONS THAT AREN'T RATIFIED OR SUPPORTED FOR WHATEVER REASON OR DIDN'T MAKE IT. SO IF SOMEONE COULD LOOK INTO THE NOTE ABOUT FRANCES PUNCH AND HER SUGGESTION, AND IF THAT WAS RATIFIED BY THE GROUP AND JUST OMIT MISSED, OR IF THE GROUP DID NOT, IF IT DIDN'T GET ENOUGH SUPPORT. I 
          JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. AND. >> LET ME SEE. 
          >> DISCUSSED IS WAS A SHORTER LEASE. AND SO IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT AS A, AS A NOTE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU DO THAT ON THE FLY. BUT JUST IN CASE THAT'S NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. THAT SAID, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? I'M, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I WANT TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THAT. ONE 
          MORE TIME. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MAYOR, MAY I MAKE A STATEMENT? 
          >> BY ALL MEANS. >> ABOUT FOUR MINUTES. IS THAT OKAY? 
          >> FOUR IS I WILL BE ON EDGE, BUT YES. >> GO. 
          >> OKAY. SO WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS IN JANUARY, THE COUNCIL BEGAN DISCUSSING THIS TOPIC OF RENEWING THE GROUND LEASE. BEFORE THAT MEETING, RESIDENTS SHARED A LOT OF IDEAS WITH US, SOME HOPING FOR NEW USES OF THE BUILDING, OTHERS URGING US TO HONOR ITS HISTORY WITHOUT PUNISHING THE WOMEN WHO HAVE SUPPORTED NONPROFITS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS FOR YEARS. I NOTICED THAT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, IT DIDN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE THEY WERE TALKING TO EACH OTHER. AND WITHOUT COMMUNICATION, WITHOUT COMMUNICATION, IT'S REALLY EASY FOR ASSUMPTIONS AND HURT TO GROW. MY GUIDING PRINCIPLE IN THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN COMMUNITY HEALING. THAT IS MY GOAL, THAT THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THIS THE WHOLE TIME. HEALING REQUIRES LISTENING TO PERSPECTIVES AND EXPERIENCES DIFFERENT FROM OUR OWN, PUTTING OURSELVES IN EACH OTHER'S SHOES AND SEEKING A PATH FORWARD TOGETHER. THE HISTORY OF QUAKERTOWN IS A DEEP WOUND, AS WE'VE HEARD MANY TIMES TONIGHT IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE ORIGINS OF THIS BUILDING ARE PART OF THAT WOUND. HEALING ONLY HAPPENS WHEN WE TALK TO EACH OTHER IN GOOD FAITH, SHARE OUR HURT, AND MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. AFTER THE JANUARY WORK SESSION, I INVITED INVITED A SMALL GROUP, SOME FROM THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION, SOME DEEPLY FAMILIAR WITH THE QUAKERTOWN HISTORY TO BEGIN SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, THE HOPE WAS TO GRADUALLY EXPAND THE GROUP TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULD HOLD LARGER COMMUNITY CONVERSATION. WE DIDN'T GET THERE AS FAST AS I HOPED, AND WE'RE STILL NOT THERE YET. BUT I BELIEVE THESE CONVERSATIONS MUST CONTINUE REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME OF TONIGHT'S VOTE. THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR THE HEALING IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT'S PARTICIPATED IN THESE IN THESE DISCUSSIONS. SO FAR. THEY'VE BEEN HONEST, RESPECTFUL, SOMETIMES DIFFICULT, BUT THEY'VE GENERATED IDEAS FOR FUTURE COMMUNITY DIALOG AND PARTNERSHIPS. MY GOAL IS FOR THIS HISTORY TO ULTIMATELY BECOME A SCAR THAT'S VISIBLE AND REMEMBERED, RATHER THAN A SCAB THAT WE KEEP REOPENING. I DON'T WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO RELIVE THIS PAIN EVERY TIME THE GROUND LEASE EXPIRES. THE ONLY WAY I'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT ENDS THE CYCLE FOR THE LAND IS FOR THE LAND AND THE BUILDING TO EVENTUALLY HAVE THE SAME OWNER. THE CITY OWNS THE LAND BUT DOES NOT OWN THE BUILDING. STATE LAW MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO SELL PARKLAND. SO YOU CAN LOOK THAT UP. IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT THE MOST REALISTIC LONG TERM SOLUTION IS A FUTURE CHANGE IN THE BUILDING OWNERSHIP. I DO NOT SUPPORT TAKING THE BUILDING THAT THE CITY DID NOT PAY TO CONSTRUCT OR MAINTAIN. I DO NOT SUPPORT IT RIGHT NOW GIVEN OUR BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, AND I DO NOT SUPPORT ACTION THAT IS INTENDED OR FEELS LIKE IT PUNISHES THE WOMEN'S FEDERATION FOR INJUSTICES THEY DID NOT COMMIT, THAT WOULD CREATE NEW WOUNDS AND IGNORE THE POSITIVE WORK TODAY'S MEMBERS ARE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO PERFECT SOLUTION HERE. IN MY OPINION, THE MOST WORKABLE PATH I'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY, ONE THAT AVOIDS US REPEATEDLY REOPENING THIS WOUND WHILE RESPECTING THE WORK OF TODAY'S MEMBERS, IS FOR THE CITY TO PURCHASE THE BUILDING AT FAIR MARKET RATE, AT THE END OF A LONG TERM LEASE THAT GIVES BOTH SIDES TIME TO PLAN AND BUDGET FOR AN EVENTUAL TRANSITION. FOR 
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THAT REASON, I'M A YES VOTE. IF THE PROPOSED LEASE IN THE. IF IN THE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'M A YES VOTE ON THE PROPOSED LEASE. IF THE RENEWAL OPTION IS REMOVED, I'M A NO VOTE IF THE RENEWAL OPTION REMAINS BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO REPEAT THIS PAINFUL PROCESS EVERY TIME THE LEASE EXPIRES, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CHOOSE A PATH THAT LEADS TOWARDS HEALING AND. REGARDLESS OF TONIGHT'S VOTE, I'M COMMITTED TO CONTINUING THIS WORK, AND I KNOW THAT THE LADIES WILL ALSO CONTINUE. AND I BELIEVE DENTON IS STRONGER WHEN WE TALK TO 
          EACH OTHER AND WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS COMMON GOALS. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. 
          >> AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD. 
          >> FOR. >> MAYOR, I'M PREPARED TO TO SECOND YOUR MOTION. AND IN DOING SO, I'M I'M SINCERELY SORRY ABOUT ANY PAIN THAT THE QUAKERTOWN INCIDENT CAUSED OUR CITY, I SINCERELY AM. BUT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO. I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD. I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD THAT THAT THE WOMEN'S CLUB BUILDING REPRESENTS TODAY. AND AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT AND NOT TO LOSE THAT MOMENTUM. I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM AMENDMENT TO TO THAT I'D LIKE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. BUT I THINK I'M I THINK I'M READY TO TO SECOND YOUR MOTION. 
          >> OKAY. >> GOT IT. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. 
          >> THANK YOU. AS I LISTENED TO THE EVERYONE SPEAK TONIGHT, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AND I SHARE MY PRO TEMS CONCERN THAT OFTEN PEOPLE WERE TALKING AROUND EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF TO EACH OTHER AND WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OVER AND OVER AND OVER WAS THAT NEED TO BE HEARD. BECAUSE WHY? BECAUSE OF RESPECT. RESPECT FOR THE VALUES THAT THE WOMEN BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY, RESPECT FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICANS, DESCENDANTS OF THE COMMUNITY. BUT THEY WERE SEEKING RESPECT. AND WHAT WE ARE IN AN UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE IS THOSE TWO GOALS, THAT GOAL OF RESPECT FOR WOMEN AND RESPECT FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN DESCENDANTS ARE NOT INCONGRUOUS, AND WE'RE PUTTING THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER IN WAYS I THINK ARE REALLY ARTIFICIAL. AND THE WAY WE GET PAST THAT IS TO HAVE WHAT I HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, EVEN FROM THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR RENEWAL, IS THEY WOULD OFTEN ASK FOR RENEWAL AND THEN SAY, AND WE COULD SEE OUR WAY FORWARD TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. BUT TO DO THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER THING. BUT A RENEWAL LOCKS DOWN SOME OF THAT OPPORTUNITY. EVEN THE MAYOR WAS COMING UP WITH SEVERAL IDEAS ON THE FLY. MANY OF THEM WERE GOOD, AND THAT WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HEARD DIANA DUNKLE TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO TO HEAL AND MOVE FORWARD. AND I ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME IS THIS IDEA OF RESPECT AND LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. THIS IS QUINTESSENTIALLY WHAT WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR COMPLAIN ABOUT IN AMERICAN SOCIETY IS. WE DON'T LISTEN TO THEM. WE ARE NOT HEARING THEM. WE'RE TALKING OVER BOTH OF THESE GROUPS. AND THE WAY FORWARD IS TO HAVE THESE GROUPS TALK WITH EACH OTHER AND, AND LET THESE GROUPS BE CENTERED IN THIS CONVERSATION. AND THERE'S BEEN WAY TOO MUCH CENTERING. PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME, THERE'S BEEN WAY TOO MUCH CENTERING OF PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. AND SO I SHARE THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM THAT WE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER UNTIL THE FUNDAMENTAL DISCREPANCY OF THE BUILDING AND LAND ARE SOMEHOW RESOLVED. AND, AND I SHARE MAYOR PRO TEM CONCERN THAT THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION, THEN ALL WE'RE DOING IS KICKING THE CAN. WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. WE'RE NOT HEARING EACH OTHER. WE'RE CONTINUING TO CENTER OUR OWN NEEDS. AND INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO CENTER THE OTHER PERSON'S NEED AND COME TO A CONSENSUS. SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO REACH A PLACE OF RESPECT FOR THE LEGACY, A PLACE OF RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE, THE WOMEN OF DENTON, AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED, AND THE LEADERSHIP AT A CITY WITH WOMEN'S UNIVERSITY. WE THIS IS THIS TOWN IS BUILT ON RESPECT FOR WOMEN AND THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. AND SO TO FALSELY TO, TO BREAK THAT APART IS WE CAN'T DO. AND THE ONLY WAY FORWARD IS TO HAVE THE KINDS OF CONVERSATION THAT SEEMS LIKE TWO THIRDS TO THREE QUARTERS OF NEARLY EVERYONE WAS 
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ASKING FOR. ALL RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR THE LEASE RENEWAL ON AUGUST 6TH, BUT WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT THAT CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A CLIFF THAT WE FALL OFF ON. IF WE IF WE MAGICALLY DON'T HIT THAT AUGUST 6TH DEADLINE. YOU KNOW WHAT? SOMETIMES THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN'T PASS ON. WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT RISK. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RISKS FOR WOMEN. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RISKS FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS. AND WE'RE WE I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THE RISK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. SO I'M GOING TO SHARE THIS. I HAVE THE SAME GOAL. IF WE CAN'T GET TO A SOLUTION THAT IS RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE AND FINDS A PATH FORWARD AND GETS RID OF THE PROBLEM, THEN I, I, I HAVE TO HAVE, I HAVE TO HAVE THAT SOLUTION. I SHARE THAT WITH MAYOR PRO TEM. SO I'M REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS ON THIS INDIVIDUAL MOTION, I WILL BE MOTIONING FOR POSTPONEMENT, WHICH SUPERSEDES THE UNDERLYING MOTION. SO WE CAN THEN VOTE ON THAT, THAT OR THAT POSTPONEMENT AND SEE SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AND I'LL PLAY IT BY THE EAR AT THAT POINT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE GET A PATH FORWARD. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. WE'RE TRYING TO REPRESENTATIVE FROM 
          DISTRICT FIVE. >> MAYOR, DID DOCTOR BECK MAKE A MOTION OR SHOULD I MAKE A 
          MOTION? >> HE DID NOT. AND IF YOU WANT TO FORECLOSE YOUR. BECAUSE RIGHT EMOTION WE'RE GOING TO GO TO AND VOTE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S GOING TO CLOSE DISCUSSION. 
          >> THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, MR. MAYOR, TO POSTPONE. 
          >> YOU DON'T HAVE THE FLOOR. SO, COUNCILMAN MCGEE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          >> MAYOR. I WAS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION, SO I DON'T MIND LETTING HIM MAKE THE MOTION, 
          AND THEN I'LL I'LL SECOND IT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. >> IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE FLOOR, 
          I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR. 
          COLLEAGUES, I WILL ENCOURAGE US TO, TO, TO DELAY TO AN EVENT CERTAIN WE WERE ALL HERE FOR THE DISCUSSION ABOUT FAIR CHANCE HIRING, SAY, MAYOR PRO TEM AND WE'VE SEEN THE MODEL FOR THIS STAFF WORKED VERY HARD IN PULLING STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNITIES TOGETHER. AND THEY HAD A MEETING AND STAFF THEN BROUGHT THAT MEETING BACK TO US IN A WORK SESSION AND SUBSEQUENTLY INTO A PUBLIC MEETING, AND ALLOWED US TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION BASED ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED. WE'VE ALREADY SET UP A MODEL FOR FOR HOW TO DO THIS. WE CAN DO THIS AGAIN. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE WHO WHO SPOKE SO ELOQUENTLY. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL UNDERSTANDING THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IN THE HISTORY BEHIND IT. I AGREE WITH SO MANY THINGS SAID WE CAN DO. WE CAN DO ALL THINGS AND TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE. THE WOMEN'S CLUB WAS A PLACE FOR WOMEN TO COME TOGETHER AND HAVE INTELLIGENT CONVERSATIONS. BUT I WILL NOTE INTELLIGENT CONVERSATIONS CANNOT BE HAD WITHOUT THE MOST EDUCATED GROUP OF WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY, AND THAT IS BLACK WOMEN. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEMBERS, MANY BLACK MEMBERS THERE ARE THE WOMEN'S CLUB, BUT I DO KNOW THIS DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION MATTERS. 
          AND AS WONDERFUL AS THE WOMEN'S CLUB IS, Y'ALL WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER. WE COULD ALL GET BETTER WITH THE INCLUSION OF BLACK WOMEN. SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DELAY THIS TO AN EVENT CERTAIN IN THE EVENT CERTAIN IS STAFF PULLING TOGETHER STAKEHOLDERS AND HAVING A MEETING TO SEE IF THE COMMUNITY CAN FIND THEIR WAY FORWARD. STAKEHOLDERS LOOKS LIKE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE WOMEN'S CLUB, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE PUT TOGETHER, A PRESENTATION AND BROUGHT BACK TO THIS VERY BODY, AND I BELIEVE THAT CAN BE DONE IN UNDER 90 DAYS, JUST LIKE IT WAS FOR FAIR CHANCE. 
          >> HIRING AFRICAN AMERICAN. >> THE NEXT PRESIDENT. >> CAN GET BOGGED DOWN IN DETAILS AND FACTS. THAT MESSES EVERYTHING UP. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BECK. DISCUSSION PROPER. NO DISCUSSION. SO, COUNCILMEMBER, DO YOU CARE TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION? 
          >> YEAH, I JUST CARE TO SPEAK. >> LET ME LET ME GET SOME DIRECTION. 
          >> OKAY. >> DOES IT HAVE TO BE. >> IT REALLY SHOULD BE ABOUT 
          THE POSTPONEMENT IS THAT'S NOW WHAT'S PENDING ON THE FLOOR. >> YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK TO 
          THAT. >> OKAY. YOU HAVE. >> THE FLOOR. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT ANYWAY A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. THIS IS THIS IS SOME GOOD TALK. I'M REALLY APPRECIATING OUR COMMUNITY, COMING TOGETHER AND JUST BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO, TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION TO LIGHT WHERE SOME VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED, BRAVE PEOPLE HERE. 
          AND I'M, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO COME TO A CONSENSUS. YEAH. BUT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON THE IDEA OF, OF A POSTPONEMENT, BUT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE IDEA OF 
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ME SAYING NO TO THE TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, BECAUSE I WAS HEARING BOTH SIDES SAYING THE SAME THING. IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH CONVERSATION ON IT'S NOT ENOUGH DISCUSSION. SO WHEN DOES THE DISCUSSION HAPPEN? DOES IT HAPPEN BEFORE THE VOTE OR DOES IT HAPPEN AFTER THE VOTE? BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THE OTHER THING IS IF IT HAPPENS, IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN AFTER THE VOTE, WERE WE AS THE COMMUNITY THAT IS SAYING NO, GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON IT AND WORK WITH THE WOMEN'S CLUB? I MEAN, THE WOMEN'S CLUB, CAN I SAY THE WOMEN'S CLUB? YOU KNOW, IT IS A GUARANTEED. SO I WAS HEARING SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS FROM THE WOMEN'S CLUB, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY RENAMING IT. MAKING IT INTO A CULTURAL SPACE. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE WORKED OUT BECAUSE I NEED TO BE WORKED OUT BEFORE THE VOTE. OR DOES IT NEED WORKED OUT AT THE NO VOTE? SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO. BUT MEANWHILE, NOW THAT WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT BECAUSE WE WERE KIND OF GETTING TO THAT CONVERSATION. ANYWAY, THE POSTPONEMENT LOOKS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE SAID NO TO THIS MOTION, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME. CERTAIN. BUT NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSTPONEMENT, I CAN CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT. AND WE CAN COME TOGETHER VERY QUICKLY. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE GRAND IDEAS, SO IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG TO TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT FOR US AND TO BRING THAT BACK TO US SO WE CAN MOVE PAST THIS. I'M WISHING LUCK ON ALL SIDES. EVERYBODY IS DESERVING MANY GREAT FRIENDS THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP ON EITHER SIDE FOR ME, AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE. YOU ALL KNOW HOW I ROLL. I LIKE TO EVERYBODY TO HAVE SUCCESS. SO WE'LL I'M SURE WE'LL COME TOGETHER. WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL UNTNTW AND YOU KNOW, AND GREAT FACES AND GREAT KNOWLEDGE AROUND HERE. WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT. AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I'M GOING TO GO WITH THAT. I'LL APPROVE A 
          POSTPONEMENT. >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          >> I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING POSTPONEMENT. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF IDEAS. I'VE TRIED TO GATHER AS MUCH INPUT AS I CAN, AND THE BIGGEST IDEAS THAT I HEAR AGAIN NECESSITATE. I FEEL THE CITY OWNING THE BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE RIGHT NOW. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PUNTING IT TO A NEW COUNCIL. IT'S TAKEN US, WHAT, SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE. OUR COUNCIL NEGOTIATING SOME TERMS. SO I WOULD HAVE CONCERN OF KIND OF, TO SOME DEGREE, STARTING THAT PROCESS OVER WITH A NEW COUNCIL. AND SO I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT WOULD CHANGE WITH IT, OR WE WOULD RUN OUT OF TIME OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. SO I WON'T SUPPORT 
          THE MOTION TO POSTPONE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DISTRICT FIVE. 
          >> MAYOR PRO TEM. I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND INCLUDING DISCUSSION ABOUT SYNCING UP THE PROPERTY AND THE BUILDING WITHIN THIS TABLE TO MOTION FOR AN EVENT. CERTAIN. 
          >> ARE YOU MAYOR PRO TEM? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT WOULD. 
          >> YEAH, NO. >> I FEEL I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT IT CHANGES MY POSITION. I 
          APPRECIATE IT THOUGH. >> OKAY. ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ON THE TABLE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR YES. 
          >> CAN CAN YOU RESTATE THE MOTION AND IS THERE A IS THERE A TIME ON THIS. I'M I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS VERY SAME EXPERIENCE IN 30 DAYS. WHATEVER IT IS, WE'RE SIMPLY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. BUT BUT I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO HAVE 
          CLARIFICATION OF THE MOTION, PLEASE. >> YEP. REPRESENTATIVE I DON'T 
          I I'LL LET YOU I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU. >> IT'S NOT TO A TIME IT'S TO AN EVENT CERTAIN THIS IS A POST MOMENT TO AN EVENT CERTAIN AND THE EVENT IS STAFF BEING ABLE TO PULL STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE WOMEN'S CLUB AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPLORE PATHWAYS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A 91 DAY SHOT CLOCK, SO THE TIME IS WITHIN NOW, IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS, GIVING, GIVING OUR MEETING SCHEDULE. AND IT'S AN EVENT CERTAIN. SO THEY'LL BRING IT BACK WHENEVER THEY'VE 
          DONE IT ESSENTIALLY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YES. THANK YOU. 
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          >> THANK YOU, SIR. AND I JUST NEED STAFF TO BE HEARD, EITHER LEGAL OR CITY MANAGER. THERE'S. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DATES THROWN AROUND THAT ARE THAT ARE NOT STEEPED IN REALITY. SO. I'M OPENING THE FLOOR FOR ONE OF Y'ALL TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT TIMING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THE, THE SCENARIO THAT'S THROWN OUT THERE IS IN, IN A WEEKEND, YOU CAN THROW TOGETHER A CONTRACT THAT. THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN SAID. SO YOU CAN EITHER WRITE THAT OUT OR SAY SOMETHING, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT. I'M NOT GOING TO. IF THE ELEPHANT IN 
          THE ROOM, I'M GONNA PET IT. SO YOU CAN SPEAK NOW OR NOT. >> I CAN SPEAK TO THE LEGAL SIDE. CASSEY YOU PROBABLY NEED TO WEIGH IN ON HOSTING A MEETING AND GETTING INTERESTED PARTIES. I THINK THAT'S A HEAVIER LIFT. THE LEGAL PART OF IT REALLY WOULD COME DOWN TO DOES DOES THE CONTRACT NEED TO BE CHANGED? DOES THE LEASE NEED TO BE CHANGED? AND WE'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE PROVISIONS ARE. IF IT'S A REWRITE. YES, THAT'S A CONCERN. IF IT'S A TWEAK THAT 
          WE CAN DO THAT IN PRETTY SHORT ORDER. >> AND WE WE JUST NEED TIME TO ADVERTISE THE MEETING, FIND A SPACE TO HOST THE MEETING, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM, ADEQUATE AGENDA, AND REALLY WANT SOME GUARDRAILS FOR WHAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO BRING BACK. 
          >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY POINT OF CLARIFICATION. WE'D BE SEEKING WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT DECISION ARE WE WORKING TOWARDS? 
          >> YEAH, BUT LET ME LET ME LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, THOUGH, BECAUSE THIS IS THE PROBLEM. 
          CORRECT ME WHERE I'M WRONG. THIS CONTRACT WAS DIRECTION FROM MAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO BRING BACK AS CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED. YES, YES. SO THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SAID BRING THIS BACK. YES, THAT THAT ARE AT THIS DAIS. IS THERE NEW SOMEBODY NEW AT THIS DAIS? NO, SIR. NO CHANGES. NO SIR. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE. SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEW DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO IGNORE. OKAY, SO THAT'S MY PROBLEM. AND MY OTHER THING IS THAT IT'S SO SHORT SIGHTED BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A MEETING THAT WILL GO IN PERPETUITY, POTENTIALLY, OR 40 YEARS OR TEN YEARS. YOU'RE MAKING A TEN YEAR DECISION UNDER A SHOTGUN OF TWO MONTHS AT BEST. VERSUS A LEASE THAT THEN ALLOWS A CONVERSATION TO BE A FULL, HEALTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT TO DO. YOU'RE WE'RE BEING I FEEL THE COUNCIL IS BEING WEAPONIZED TO SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE THIS ORGANIZATION OVER A BARREL. WE WANT TO USE IT. THIS LEASE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT WE CAN DO. AND SO THAT'S THE PART THAT'S DISHEARTENING IS WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING PREVENTING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND SO, AND THE CONVERSATIONS ARE SO SHORT SIGHTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH JUST THIS ORGANIZATION AND NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S THE CITY'S ROLE, WHAT'S TWU ROLE, WHAT'S DENTON ISD'S ROLE? BECAUSE THEY HAD SEGREGATED SCHOOLS. IT JUST IT JUST VERSUS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, THE WOMEN'S GROUP THAT THEN CAME TOGETHER AND WORKED AROUND THESE THINGS. THEY DIDN'T WAIT FOR THE COUNCIL TO MOVE. THEY DIDN'T. AND I MADE A NOTE IN HERE TO TALK ABOUT. THEY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, GOAL IS AN AMAZING PROGRAM THAT CHRIS I STARTED, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH CITY MONEY, HOW MUCH SCHOOL MONEY THEY GET? ZERO. IT'S ALL HUSTLE, SWEAT EQUITY, GRIND. AND THEY MADE IT HAPPEN. AND IT IS A TREMENDOUS ORGANIZATION AND IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FORCE. AND SO I JUST WE WE HAVE WE'VE SEEN THIS TALK ABOUT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HISTORY, WE'VE SEEN THIS. AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, DRIVE BY CITY HALL WEST, IT'S NOW CLAIM TO FAME AS IT HAS OCTOPUS TENTACLES ON IT ONCE A YEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT REAL. WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEFICIT THIS YEAR. WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT HIRING PEOPLE. AND YOU'RE SAYING, GO BUY A BUILDING. WHAT? THAT THAT IGNORES REALITY. THIS LEASE IN PLACE. THEY CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY. THEY CAN NEGOTIATE BETWEEN EACH OTHER. YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT ONE PERSON SAID, THIS IS GOOD. OTHER PERSON SAID, THAT'S GOOD. IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT SETTLED IN A MONTH. 
          YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO NOTICE IT IN TIME. IT JUST IT'S IT'S AND, AND THE OTHER FACTOR IS YOU'RE MAKING PLANS FOR BUILDING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE. IF AT SOME POINT THEY 
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DECIDE TO TAKE THEIR FOOTBALL AND GO HOME, THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING A LOT THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUILD ANYTHING ON? BECAUSE I KNOW IN THAT ORGANIZATION THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY FUNDED THAT CAN FIND LAND AND BE LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M DONE WITH Y'ALL AND I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU IN 40 YEARS. I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU IN ANOTHER NEXT HUNDRED YEARS, I'M DONE. AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE LEVERAGE YOU THINK YOU HAVE. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. BECAUSE IF THEY PULL THE ULTIMATE TRIGGER, WE GOT TO GREEN SPACE. AND MAN, I WANT TO SEE THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE WHEN THAT HAPPENS. 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> AND MAYOR, TO ADD TO THAT, TO CONFOUND THAT PROBLEM, SINCE SINCE IT'S NOT A DATE CERTAIN WE COULD HAVE A BRAND NEW COUNCIL HERE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THESE PEOPLE UP TO SPEED AND GET THEM STARTED. AND, AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION AGAIN. LET'S, LET'S HAVE ANOTHER 30 DAYS. LET'S HAVE ANOTHER 60 DAYS BECAUSE THESE NEW MEMBERS AREN'T, AREN'T UP TO SPEED ON THIS THING. I THINK POSTPONING IS A TERRIBLE IDEA. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. >> THERE'S A LOT OF, I LIKE TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP IT AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN THE WAY I'M GOING TO VOTE. WHAT I BELIEVE IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE WOMEN'S CLUB FEDERATION FOR MONTHS. ACCOMMODATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ON BOTH SIDES. THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED TO BEFORE WE CAME HERE TODAY. SECONDLY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE YEARS BEFORE EITHER THE CITY OR ANOTHER NONPROFIT. IF IF ONE WANTS TO GET SPUN UP TO CREATE SOME KIND OF MUSEUM OR DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE PROPERTY, IT'S GOING TO BE YEARS BEFORE THAT FUNDING IS FOUND. AND THEN THE FUNDING TO MAINTAIN A 100 YEAR OLD BUILDING. SO I AM GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF RENEWING THE LEASE TODAY, KNOWING THAT THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF QUAKERTOWN WITH THE SOUTHEAST AREA, DENTON, IS WRITTEN INTO THE LEASE, AND THEY HAVE LEGAL OBLIGATIONS TO REPORT TO THE CITY WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, THE HEALING PROCESS. IT IS NOT PERFECT. I AM NOT CLAIMING THIS IS PERFECT, BUT PRACTICALLY THIS IS THE WAY THAT I SEE MOVING FORWARD. HOWEVER, THE LEASE MAY OR MAY NOT BE RENEWED AFTER ITS FIRST TERM, BUT DURING THAT TIME, THE CONVERSATIONS CAN HAPPEN AND THE MONEY CAN BE FOUND IF THAT IS WHAT THE CITY CHOOSES. BECAUSE THE CITY DOES OWN THE LAND. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING AS IF THE CITY CAN JUST GIVE THE BUILDING TO ANOTHER NONPROFIT, CAN JUST DECIDE TO TURN IT INTO A DIFFERENT USE AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE LEGALLY THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PURCHASED. SO I, I AND I'VE BEEN. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I, I, I HEAR BOTH SIDES. I UNDERSTAND THE VALIDITY OF, OF BOTH OF THE SIDES AS FAR AS TABLING, SAYING YES OR SAYING NO TO RENEWING THE LEASE. HOWEVER, WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED, IT'S GOING TO BE YEARS. SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE THIS GROUP THAT HAS MADE THESE PROMISES, THAT HAS BEEN WILLING TO SIGN THESE LEGAL DOCUMENTS TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE BUILDING WHILE THESE CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE COME UP WITH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A FEW MONTHS, IN MY OPINION. SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE LEASE IS UP AND WE HAVE I CAN'T GET INTO THE DETAILS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE PRIVILEGED INFORMATION OF OF A NEED TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE THE LEASE TERMINATES. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN GO, BUT IT'S NOT AS IF WE CAN JUST SIT AND LET IT EXPIRE WITHOUT SOME POSSIBLE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THE CITY. THEREFORE, I'M VOTING. 
          I'M NOT VOTING TO TABLE, AND I AM VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE LEASE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M SAYING I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF A LOT OF THE THINGS AND REQUESTS THAT I HAVE HEARD TONIGHT. HOWEVER, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, I THINK THIS IS THE THE RIGHT PATH FORWARD FOR OUR CITY, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO LET ME EXPLAIN MYSELF FOR A FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT FIVE. >> BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES. I JUST WANT TO READ WHAT THE THE LEASE AGREEMENT SAYS IN TERMS OF THE WOMEN'S ORGANIZATION WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, IT SAYS THE FEDERATION INTENDS TO SEEK OPPORTUNITIES IN GOOD FAITH AND IN COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO SUPPORT AWARENESS OF AND ENGAGEMENT WITH QUAKER TOWN'S HISTORY THROUGH PROGRAMING, SIGNAGE OR 
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COLLABORATIVE EVENTS. THE FEDERATION UNDERSTANDS THIS IS A SHARED CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY GIVEN THE BUILDING'S PROXIMITY TO THE QUAKER TOWN HISTORIC SITE AND THE CITY'S OWN COMMITMENT TO REVEALING AND HONORING THAT HISTORY THROUGH THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON PLAN. 
          I'M NOT A LAWYER. I DON'T CLAIM TO BE A LAWYER, BUT WHEN I READ THAT, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HARD AND FAST THAT SAYS I HAVE TO. THIS IS NICE FLOWERY LANGUAGE, BUT IT DOES NOT HOLD EITHER SIDE TO ANYTHING. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD TABLE THIS TO AN EVENT CERTAIN IN THE EVENT CERTAIN IS TO BRING STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER AND SIMPLY HAVE A CONVERSATION. 
          WHEN I ASKED WHAT HEALING LOOKED LIKE, REVEREND TOLD ME HEALING WAS BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND HAVING A CONVERSATION. THAT'S WHAT HEALING LOOKS LIKE. IF WE'RE REALLY ABOUT HEALING THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO TABLE SO WE CAN HEAL. 
          >> I LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION. >> DO WE NEED A SECOND? >> YEAH, SECOND. AND I'LL NEED 
          A TWO THIRDS VOTE. >> OKAY, THEN WE NEED A SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE CALL? THE QUESTION. SECOND. SURE. SO THEN WE GOT TO SO CHANGE THAT AGAIN. SO MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. AND THEN WE NEED A VOTE AFTER 
          THAT. NO DISCUSSION. >> THIS IS THE VOTE TO POSTPONE. >> NO THIS IS THE VOTE TO CALL THE QUESTION. AND IT NEEDS A MAJORITY, A FIVE PERSON MAJORITY TO PASS. YES, SHE'S 
          DOING IT. >> WE NEED TO BREAK UP. IT IS. >> YEAH. WE'RE NOT GETTING ONE. 
          WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH. WE'RE GETTING GOING HOME. YOU CAN TAKE A BREAK ON YOUR OWN 
          AND WE'LL VOTE WITHOUT YOU. YEAH. NO, Y'ALL MESSED THAT UP. >> WE ARE HAVING MARGARITAS. 
          >> OKAY, OKAY. IT'S EMOTION. IT'S A CALL TO QUESTION. OKAY. VERY GOOD. NO WORRIES. VOTE ON THE SCREEN. SO THIS IS THE MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION YES OR NO? NO. SHE'S GOT IT. 
          >> THE QUESTION IS THE POSTPONEMENT. >> NO, NO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S NORMAL. JUST YES OR NO. CALL THE QUESTION. THAT'S THE QUESTION. YES. AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 2. NOW THE MOTION TO POSTPONE IS COUNCIL MEMBER MCGHEE MOTION. AND WHO SECONDED IT. COUNCILMEMBER BACK. SO MOTION BY MCGHEE, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BECK. THIS IS TO POSTPONE. AND LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN WHENEVER IT'S READY. YES. 
          AGAIN THIS IS IF YOU AGREE TO POSTPONE. NOW IT DOESN'T SAY BUT NEVER MIND. IT'LL BE FINE. 
          AND MOTION TO POSTPONE FAILS FIVE 4 TO 3. THAT TAKES US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. I'LL TAKE A 
          MOTION. >> YOU HAVE A MOTION? YEAH. >> OKAY. OKAY. GOT IT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THAT'S MAYOR HUDSPETH AS THE MOTIONER AND COUNCILMAN HOLLAND AS A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES FOUR THREE TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM. SIX 
          [B. ID 26-0098 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the execution of a second amendment to Cole Ranch Operating Agreement with Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, Texas, relative to funding of improvement projects serving property within Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County and adding definitions; and providing an effective date.]
B. THAT IS, I'D 260098. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON. 
          AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A SECOND AMENDMENT TO CODE RANCH OPERATING AGREEMENT WITH COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE OF DENTON COUNTY, TEXAS. RELATIVE TO FUNDING OF IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PROJECTS SERVING PROPERTY WITHIN COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, DENTON COUNTY AND ADDING DEFINITIONS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. GO 
          AHEAD. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, 
          DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >> MR. MAYOR, I CAN'T HEAR 
          ANYTHING. >> I COULDN'T I COULDN'T KEEP GOING. 
          >> THIS ITEM IS FOR YOU. TODAY IS FOR ITEM SIX B AND SIX C, SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS FOR THE HUNTER RANCH AGREEMENTS THAT CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY. THIS IS FOR A COST 
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SHARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY COLE RANCH AND HUNTER RANCH FOR A LARGE INTERCEPTOR SEWER LINE AND A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE OPERATING AGREEMENT FOR COLE RANCH. OKAY. 
          FOR ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND, COLE RANCH IS A 3169 ACRE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE TIMELINE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. THE OPERATING AGREEMENT IS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE 1 TO 1 ALLOWANCE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED AFTER AN AUTHORIZED PROJECT IS COMPLETED. IT PROVIDES FOR. 
          >> A POINT OF ORDER. >> YEAH. >> IT PROVIDES POINT OF ORDER. 
          CAN WE. I'M SO SORRY. CAN WE PLEASE. >> CLEAR THE GALLERY SO WE CAN 
          CONDUCT BUSINESS? THANK YOU. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO. >> WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO TAKE A BREAK? OKAY. HERE WE GO. HE'S GOT IT NOW. THEY'RE GONE. WE CAN GO. WE CAN HEAR IT. 
          >> SO THIS IS SO THE THE OPERATING AMENDMENT REMOVES THE PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT FOR A 1 TO 1 FOR SUPPLEMENTAL PROJECTS. AFTER AN AUTHORIZED PROJECTS COMPLETED, IT WOULD SET THE TEMPLATE FOR THE COST SHARING AGREEMENT FOR WASTEWATER FACILITIES. AND IT UPDATES THE JOINDER AND REIMBURSEMENT FORMS TO MATCH THE. THE SUBDISTRICTS THAT ARE ALLOWED. SOME BACKGROUND ON THE COST SHARING AGREEMENT. THERE WAS A HICKORY BRANCH WASTEWATER TRUNK MAIN THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE 2020 OPERATING AGREEMENT. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPERATING AGREEMENT THEY PROVIDED. NOTICE IN THE CITY NOTIFIED COLE RANCH OF OUR INTENT TO OVERSIZE FOR THAT FACILITY. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE LEFT, THE FACILITY THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE OPERATING AGREEMENTS IS CONTEMPLATED AS A 27 INCH WASTEWATER LINE THAT COLE RANCH WOULD BE DEVELOPING. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT, THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN THAT SHOWS THIS TO BE A 42 INCH, 36 TO 42 INCH LINE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE LIMITS OF THE COST SHARING AGREEMENT THERE. SO AS FAR AS HOW THE FUNDING WOULD BE PROPORTIONED FOR THIS, RATHER THAN A TRADITIONAL OVERSIZE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH HUNTER RANCH, LARGE INTERCEPTORS OF THIS SIZE, WE WOULD BE PARTICIPATING BASED ON THE PROPORTION OF FLOWS. SO THAT WOULD BE A 58 WERE A MAJORITY CONTRIBUTOR TO THE FLOWS OF THE LINE. SO THAT WOULD BE A 59% COST SHARE FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE BREAKDOWN OF COSTS RELATED TO EACH OF THE PARTIES IN THE AGREEMENT. SO LIKE I MENTIONED, THE CITY WOULD BE 59% OF THE COST AT 8.6 MILLION. COLE RANCH WOULD BE 40% OF THE COST AT 5.8 MILLION. AND THEN HUNTER WOULD BE A SMALLER MAJORITY OF THE OVERALL COSTS. IN THE AGREEMENT, WE WOULD PAY 50% OF THE FUNDING WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE AGREEMENT, AND THEN WE WOULD PAY THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDING IN 2020 627 BUDGET. SO A FEW CONSIDERATIONS HERE. THE THE COST PARTICIPATION IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO OVERSIZE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SERVES A MAJORITY OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY THAT GOES ALL THE WAY. IS THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO US. 380 WE DO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH MUDS IN THIS AREA, AND THEN IF WE WERE NOT TO ADDRESS THE OVERSIZING OF THIS LINE AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD HAVE APPROXIMATELY $17.7 MILLION LINE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS. ADDITIONALLY, BY OVERSIZING THIS LINE, THE MASTER PLAN CONTEMPLATED A PARALLEL LINE IN THE FUTURE. THE OVERSIZING OF THIS LINE AT 48 INCH DELAYS, OR POSSIBLY ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR THAT PARALLEL LINE FOR THE CITY TO CONSTRUCT IN THE FUTURE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE COST SHARING AGREEMENT AND THE OPERATING AGREEMENT AMENDMENTS. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> THANK. THANK YOU. CHARLIE. 
          THE THE $17 MILLION IS COMING FROM OUR WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN OR WATER MASTER PLAN. 
          >> WHAT WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN? >> YES. OKAY. AND SO BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE PLAN AND WE EXPECT TO GROW INTO THAT AREA. ALL RIGHT. SO SO BEFORE I CONTINUE ON THE REST OF MY QUESTION, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. BUT NOW MY QUESTION IS, OKAY, IF WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING INTO OUR WHITE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, ADDITIONAL $17 MILLION FOR EXPECTED GROWTH. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY A BAD FOR US TO BE FUTURE FOCUSED, BUT WE ARE PUTTING IN LINES FOR THINGS THAT ARE COMING THAT WE TRADITIONALLY ASK TO PAY FOR THOSE LINES THEMSELVES. IN THE SAME WAY, WE'RE ASKING THIS DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR THE LINE, AND WE'RE JUST SAYING, OH, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BIGGER FOR THE FUTURE LINES. IT'S NOT BAD TO BE FUTURE FOCUSED, BUT THIS IS THE DANGER OF SPRAWL. 
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AND NOT HAVING SUFFICIENT 100% IMPACT FEES IS THAT WHEN THE FUTURE COMES, WE'RE ENDING UP EITHER HAVING TO NOT PAY 17, BUT PROBABLY MORE LIKE 20 SOMETHING IN CHANGE TO PAY FOR IT IN THE FUTURE. SO I THINK THIS, THIS, THIS REALLY WELL BULLETS THAT AS MUCH AS Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB SYNERGIZING. AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. IT PUTS IT, IT 
          JUST PINS THAT THAT SPRAWL IS BAD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE SEEING 
          NONE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. >> SECOND OR WAIT, I'M NOT A 
          SECOND, AM I THE SECOND? OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M THE FIRST. >> YEAH. YOU'RE FIRST. 
          >> OKAY. TOM, IS IT MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 
          SIX. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. JUDGE. JUST GOT 
          IT. >> WE GOT A SPIKE LEE REFERENCE AND A SMOKEY ROBINSON TONIGHT, 
          DIDN'T WE? YEAH. >> THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM SIX C I'D 
          [C. ID 26-0663 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the execution of a cost sharing agreement between the City, Cole Ranch Development LP, Cole Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, HR 3200, LP, and Hunter Ranch Improvement District No. 1 of Denton County, for the construction of a sewer line; authorizing an escrow agreement and the expenditure of funds for the City’s allocated share of improvement costs; and providing an effective date.]
260663. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON AUTHORIZING A THE EXECUTION OF A COST SHARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COLE RANCH DEVELOPMENT L.P. COLE RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, DENTON COUNTY, H.R. 3200 LP AND HUNTER RANCH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. NUMBER ONE IN DENTON COUNTY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF SEWER LINE AUTHORIZING XO AGREEMENT, ESCROW AGREEMENT AND THE EXPENDITURE FUNDS FOR THE CITY'S ALLOCATED SHARE IN 
          IMPROVEMENT COST. >> SO, MR. MAYOR, THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION WAS FOR BOTH OF 
          THESE ITEMS. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT MAKING THAT CLEAR. SURE. >> NO WORRIES. I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT. >> TWO, I MOVE APPROVAL. >> REPRESENTATIVE. 
          >> DISTRICT FIVE IS MY SECOND. >> OKAY. MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU. OCH, I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FOR 
          [D. ID 26-0323 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas directing the publication of Notice of Intention to issue $82,000,000 in principal amount of Certificates of Obligation of the City of Denton for General Government and Solid Waste projects; and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (5-0).]
YOU. JUST HANG TIGHT TILL AFTER THE MEETING. NO. JUST KIDDING. OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO ITEM SIX D. I'D 260323. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE $82 MILLION IN PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION OF THE CITY OF DENTON FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT. SOLID WASTE AND 
          SOLID WASTE PROJECTS, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> AND MAYOR, I HAVE. IF YOU COULD CALL THE NEXT ITEM. I JUST HAVE ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH ITEMS. 
          >> BLESS YOU. ITEM E I'D 260324. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS. 
          DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE $243 MILLION IN PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION OF THE CITY OF DENTON FOR WATERWORKS. THE WATER PARK AND WATER WASTEWATER SYSTEM AND ELECTRIC SYSTEM PROJECTS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MATT HAMILTON, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE NOTICE OF INTENT FOR THIS YEAR'S BOND ISSUANCE. SO AS PART OF THE BOND ISSUANCE PROCESS FOR THE DEBT FUNDED PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET. STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE PUBLICATION OF A NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BE PUBLISHED IN A NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION IN THE CITY, WHICH WE USE THE DENTON RECORD CHRONICLE AND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THE PUBLICATION MUST BE ONCE A WEEK FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE WEEKS, AND PASSAGE OF THE BOND ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF CEOS MUST OCCUR AT LEAST 46 DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF THE FIRST PUBLICATION. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS PUBLICATION ONLY SETS THE MAXIMUM FOR THE BOND SALE. 
          IT IS NOT AUTHORIZED IN THE SALE ITSELF, SO STAFF WILL BRING FORWARD A BOND ORDINANCE IN JULY, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY AUTHORIZE THE SALE. SO THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS ONLY FOR THE PUBLICATION OF THE NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER. TAKING A LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ADOPTED IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT. WHAT WE DID IS IN THE BUDGET, WE ADOPTED 65.5 MILLION. WE TOOK THAT AMOUNT FORWARD IN THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN OCTOBER FOLLOWING THE THE BUDGET ADOPTION. AND WHAT THAT REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE ALLOWED US TO DO IS TO GET STARTED ON THE PROJECTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, PRIOR TO RECEIVING THE BOND PROCEEDS LATER IN THE YEAR. SO AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES AND STAFF IS ABLE TO REVIEW THE PROJECTS, WHEN WE BRING FORWARD THE 
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NOTICE OF INTENT FREQUENTLY, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS SOME REDUCTIONS IN SOME OF THE LINES, SOME OF SOME OF THAT CHANGE IS DUE TO JUST PROJECT SCHEDULES, SOME OF IT, WHICH I'LL POINT OUT HERE IS DUE TO STAFF IDENTIFYING OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. SO FUNDING THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM PROJECTS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN COMPLETED THAT WE CAN APPLY TOWARD THESE PROJECTS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ISSUE AS MUCH DEBT. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE IS A REDUCTION FOR OUR TECHNOLOGY SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS, FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS. SO THE NOTICE OF INTENT INCLUDES 63.7 MILLION, WHICH WAS A REDUCTION FROM THE 65.5. TAKING A LOOK AT THE SOLID WASTE PROJECTS, WE DID HAVE A REDUCTION OF ABOUT $800,000 IN VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS. AGAIN, THE STAFF AND THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THEIR VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AND DETERMINED THAT SOME OF THE VEHICLES DID NOT NEED TO BE REPLACED. AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THE VEHICLES THAT WERE ON THE LIST AND REPLACED, WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE AT A LOWER COST THAN ANTICIPATED. SO 17.4 MILLION IN THE NOTICE OF INTENT VERSUS 18.2 ORIGINALLY IN THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE AND THE BUDGET. SO TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND SOLID WASTE NOTICE OF INTENT. WE'RE INCLUDING THE 63.7 MILLION, 17.4 MILLION FOR SOLID WASTE. AND THEN 859,000 IS PRICING FLEXIBILITY JUST TO PROVIDE US FLEXIBILITY? YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MARKET LOOKS LIKE AT THE TIME OF THE OF THE SALE FOR AN AMOUNT OF $82 MILLION. SWITCHING GEARS TO THE UTILITY SYSTEM, THE UTILITY PROJECTS FOR WATER, THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE INCLUDED 55.6 MILLION IN PROJECTS, AND THE NOTICE OF INTENT WAS REDUCED TO 44.9 MILLION UTILITY PROJECTS FOR WASTEWATER. THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE INCLUDED 141.8 MILLION, AND IT WAS REDUCED TO 113.9. AND THE UTILITY PROJECTS FOR ELECTRIC. THE REIMBURSEMENT ORDINANCE WAS 58.4 MILLION, WITH NO CHANGE TO THE NOTICE OF INTENT. SO OVERALL, FOR THE NOTICE OF INTENT, WE INCLUDE THE 44.9 MILLION FOR WATER, THE 113.9 FOR WASTEWATER, 58.4 FOR ELECTRIC. AND WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING 23 MILLION FOR CAPITALIZED INTEREST. THIS IS REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY AND OPTIONALITY AS WE LOOK AT THE LARGE WATER PLANT PROJECTS TO DETERMINE IF UTILIZING CAPITALIZED INTEREST WOULD MAKE THE MOST FINANCIAL SENSE. SO WHEN WE BRING FORWARD THE BOND ORDINANCE TO PUB AND THEN AND THEN COUNCIL IN JULY WILL HAVE DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT THAT $23 MILLION WOULD MAKE THE MOST FINANCIAL SENSE. AND THEN AGAIN, ISSUANCE, COST AND PRICING FLEXIBILITY OF 2.6 MILLION FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 243 MILLION FOR THE UTILITY SYSTEM. SO TAKING A LOOK AT NEXT STEPS, JUNE 22ND, STAFF STAFF ANTICIPATES BRINGING FORWARD THE BOND ORDINANCE FOR PUB CONSIDERATION. AND THEN ON JULY 14TH, BRINGING FORWARD THE BOND ORDINANCE TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UPON APPROVAL OF THE BOND ORDINANCE, THE PRELIMINARY DATE OF THE SALE WOULD BE JULY 22ND AND THE RECEIPT OF PROCEEDS WOULD BE ON 
          AUGUST 20TH. AND WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, 
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> THANK YOU. WHAT IS A FULL 
          SIZE GARBAGE TRUCK COST? >> I'LL HAVE BRENDA COME DOWN. >> IF YOU COULD ANSWER BEFORE 
          11:00, I'D APPRECIATE IT. >> ABOUT $450,000. SORRY. ABOUT $450,000. DEPENDS ON EXACTLY 
          WHICH TRUCK WE'RE LOOKING AT. >> I UNDERSTAND, SO THIS 800 IN SOLID WASTE REPRESENTS. 
          >> THAT WAS A SAVINGS ON OUR LANDFILL SIDE OF EQUIPMENT. THERE WAS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT 
          THAT WE DEFERRED REPLACEMENT ON. >> I SEE THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT. 
          >> TWO. >> THE CAPITAL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE CAPITAL INTEREST IS. 
          WE CAN ONLY EXPECT THAT TO GO DOWN OR GIVE ME SOME BUMPER ALES. 
          >> YES THAT'S CORRECT. IT WOULD IT WOULD ONLY GO DOWN. SO ESSENTIALLY CAPITALIZED INTEREST IS BORROWING THE INTEREST TO DEFER THE INTEREST PAYMENTS DURING THE TIME OF 
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CONSTRUCTION OF THE PLANTS. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE PLANTS TAKE THREE FOUR YEARS TO CONSTRUCT, YOU KNOW, DOES IT MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE TO DEFER THE INTEREST DURING THAT PERIOD TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR, TO BRING IN MORE HOUSES, BRING IN MORE IMPACT FEES, BRING IN MORE REVENUE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT, OR DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO NOT CAPITALIZE THE INTEREST AND, AND BORROW, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER AMOUNT UP FRONT TO AND START THOSE PAYMENTS NOW? SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING, BUT WE WANTED TO LEAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IN THE NOTICE OF INTENT BECAUSE IT SETS THAT CEILING. AND SO WITHOUT IT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT OPTIONALITY IF WE NEEDED IT. 
          >> IT'S ONLY THE RAW NUMBER IS IN THERE, NOT NOT THE POTENTIAL INTEREST RATES THAT WOULD SHIFT 
          AND BE AND CREATE VARIABILITY. >> THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S NOT IN THE 23 MILLION THAT 
          PRICING FLEXIBILITY IS IN THE 2.6 MILLION. >> OKAY. 
          >> THANK YOU. YEAH. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. I'LL 
          TAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM SIX. D MAYOR PRO TEM. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. >> SECOND, PLEASE. 
          >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR SIX D. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM SIX E. I'LL TAKE A MOTION 
          [E. ID 26-0324 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas directing the publication of Notice of Intention to issue $243,000,000 in principal amount of Certificates of Obligation of the City of Denton for Waterworks and Wastewater System and Electric System projects; and providing an effective date. The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (5-0).]
          REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. >> MOVE APPROVAL. 
          >> REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT SIX. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION AROUND SIX E SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO 
          [7. CONCLUDING ITEMS]
CONCLUDING ITEMS. ANY CONCLUDING ITEMS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 
          TWO. >> I'LL BE BRIEF. I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS THIS IS MY LAST FULL MEETING, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO. AND I APPRECIATE WORKING WITH EVERYONE AND AND GERARD VICKI, I HAVE SPENT THE BETTER PART OF FIVE YEARS WITH YOU. AND WE'VE WE FOUGHT A LOT AND WE'VE AGREED OCCASIONALLY. AND IT HAS ABSOLUTELY BEEN AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE IN MY LIFE. NO MATTER WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS, IT CHANGED ME. SO THANK THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU FOR SPENDING THE LAST. THE HECK WITH THE REST OF YOU. JUST THOSE. TWO 
          THAT HAVE SPENT THE LAST FIVE YEARS WITH ME. THANK YOU ALL. >> YES, SIR. NO. 
          CONGRATULATIONS ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD OF YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE KIND 
          WORDS. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMEMBER BYRD. >> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, GERARD AND I, WE'VE ACTUALLY VOTED TWICE TOGETHER AS WE WERE THE ONLY TWO. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE 5 TO 2. AND HE AND I HAVE ONLY DONE THAT TWICE IN FIVE YEARS. AND I'VE ALWAYS RELISHED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO AGREE WITH HIM ON SOMETHING. SO IT'S JUST BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AS WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER BECK SAID. A LOT. I HAVE JUST GROWN SO MUCH. I AM A STUDENT OF HISTORY AND GOVERNMENT, STUDY, GOVERNMENT AND NOW TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT IN LIVE ACTION FOR ME AND TO BE A PART OF THAT HAS JUST BEEN JUST SO WONDERFUL. I'VE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE, AND I HOPE TO BE ON SOME BOARDS. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY PUT ME ON A BOARD OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY PUT ME ON THE BOARD. SO, SO I CAN SIT AROUND AND KIND OF BE IN THE MIX LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. SO YEAH, ALSO GREAT FOR MY FAMILY, MY HUSBAND, HE JUST DOES A GREAT JOB IN BEING VERY PATIENT AND MY KIDS. AND SO MY DISTRICT AS WELL, HAVING TO CONVINCE THOSE FOLKS TO TRUST ME TO COME UP HERE AND TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ALL THE PEOPLE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE CHOSEN TO DO, IS TO BE VERY HONEST AND AUTHENTIC IN EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SAID. I'M NOT MUCH OF A TALKER, AS YOU ALL KNOW. I MEAN, YOU CAN TELL, BUT I DO THINK VERY COGNIZANT OF OF ALL OF MY VOTES, AND I'M NOT REGRETTABLE IN ANYTHING, ANYTHING, MAYBE ONE THING, BUT NOT IN TOO MUCH. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO HAVE A 311 SYSTEM. WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION ON THAT EARLIER TODAY. LOTS OF INFORMATION. CALL 311. EMAIL 311. TEXT 311. 
          THAT'S THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE IN OUR TOWN. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE STILL HAVE DISCUSSED DENTON DISCUSSED DENTON. I KNOW SETH IS SHAKING HIS HEAD. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND ALL THAT A LOT OF STUFF, BUT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU KEEP UP WITH YOUR STREETS ON DISCUSS DENTON ALSO, I DO, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT WE. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE 
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OVER 80 VACANCIES ON OUR COMMITTEES. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW MANY COMMITTEES AND CHANGING UP SOME COMMITTEES. BUT WE HAVE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB AS A COMMUNITY. AND BY BEING ENGAGED IN DOING SOMETHING, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT'S JUST DOING ALL THAT TALKING REALLY COULD BE IN HERE AND ENGAGING WITH THE CITY, US, THE PEOPLE, BY US SHOWING UP AND THEN SHOWING OUT. SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THAT TONIGHT. ALSO, THE OTHER THING THAT I'VE BEEN WANTING TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WHEN YOU SEE THOSE BIG SIGNS ON THE SIDES OF THE ROADS WHERE IT SAYS CITY OF DENTON, AND IT HAS A QR CODE, AND THOSE SIGNS ARE SITTING THERE FOR MONTHS, AND THOSE SIGNS ARE THERE. THEY'RE DESIGNED TO TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON. SO THERE'S REALLY NO REAL EXCUSE ABOUT, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING IN MY COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. IT HAPPENED TO ME. I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE I KNEW. NOW THAT I KNOW, I CAN PASS THAT INFORMATION ON TO YOU ALL. YOU'VE GOT TO READ THOSE SIGNS. 
          YOU GOT TO GET THAT QR CODE. AND THAT'S GOING TO KEEP KEEP YOU INFORMED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR VOICE BEING SAID. SO YEAH, I'M GOING TO SIGN OFF HERE. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. 
          EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS, ALL OF THE SISTER CITY MANAGERS, YOU KNOW, AND DEPUTY AND INTERIM GREAT WOMAN. SO THANK YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, FOR GIVING ME THIS CHANCE. ALL RIGHT. I'M OUT. 
          >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THAT WAY AS WELL. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 
          SIX. >> I JUST HAD TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU BOTH TO COUNCIL MEMBER BECK AND COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD FOR YOUR SERVICE. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT, BUT I HAVE TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD, WHO WAS THE FIRST ONE TO SHOW ME HOW TO WORK ALL THE ELECTRONICS, WHO REMINDED ME THAT WE ARE ON CAMERA ALL THE TIME AND REALLY, I FEEL LIKE TOOK ME UNDER HER WING TO SHOW ME REAL SERVANT LEADERSHIP. SHE IS SO VERY HUMBLE. SHE IS NOT A BRAGGART. SHE IS WORKING ALL THE TIME BUT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. SHE JUST DOES THE WORK. I'M JUST SO IN IN AWE OF YOUR HEART. AND I JUST I'VE LEARNED A LOT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU, BUT YOU'VE BEEN VERY SPECIAL. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND HOPEFULLY MAKING ME HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO BE A BETTER COUNCIL 
          MEMBER. SO THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          >> MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD COUNCIL MEMBER BECK. IT'S BEEN A LOVELY LONG 11 MONTHS SERVING WITH YOU. 
          IT'S BEEN GOOD WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU ALL, AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST OF LUCK AND ALL OF YOUR FUTURE VENTURES. THERE WAS MORE I WANTED TO SAY TONIGHT, BUT I RECOGNIZE IT'S LATE, SO I DO WANT TO SAY SHOUT OUT TO STAFF. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. I KNOW THIS IS HARD FOR YOU ALL TO STAY UP THIS LATE AND BE AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY. SO I'M GOING TO END IT THERE. 
          THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE. DISTRICT FOUR. 
          >> I HAVE TREASURED THE TIME THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN EATING AND GOING INTO COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          WASN'T THAT ISN'T THAT A GREAT TIME? I LOVE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE MOST WIDE RANGING THINGS I'M GOING TO MISS. I'M GOING TO MISS MY EVERY OTHER TUESDAY EVENING FAMILY AND I'LL GET A NEW ONE. I'LL BE ALL RIGHT. BUT BUT BUT I BUT I'M GOING TO MISS THIS ONE. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD AND BECK AND I HAD OCCASION TO GO TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND I TOOK THE TIME TO GO LOOK AT THE DOGS AND. YEAH, IT WAS. AND I'M GOING TO PROBABLY CRY HERE IN A SECOND. 
          BUT LISTEN, THE DOGS WERE CLEAN AND THEY WERE, AND THE CAGES WERE WERE WELL MAINTAINED AND THE WHOLE PLACE WAS SPOTLESS. AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED AND SO PROUD. AND THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MISSING WAS FOR SOMEBODY TO GO THERE AND PICK UP ONE OF THOSE DOGS. IF YOU NEED A DOG, IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A FRIEND THAT NEEDS A DOG, GO THERE FIRST. FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC FACILITY. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND ALL THE STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          >> YEAH. THANK YOU. DON'T FORGET TO SPAY AND NEUTER REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 
          FIVE. >> I ECHO THE CHORUSES. I'M THANKFUL THAT I GOT TO SERVE WITH YOU TWO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO RAN FOR OFFICE. THANK YOU TO THOSE OF YOU WHO JUST GOT APPOINTED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO RUN FOR OFFICE. SHOUT OUT TO FRANK. WELL DONE. RUNNING FOR OFFICE IS HARD. SO THEY SAY ONLY LESS THAN 3% OF AMERICANS EVER RUN FOR OFFICE. SO WE'VE HAD THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY OF RUNNING AND SERVING, AND WE RECOGNIZE HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS ON US. BUT NOT ONLY US, OUR FAMILIES. 
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SO THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE. CONGRATULATIONS ON, ON STEPPING UP TO, TO RUN FOR DIFFERENT OFFICE OR HIGHER OFFICE. THE MORE YOU RUN, THE MORE YOU SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR REGULAR PEOPLE TO DO THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR THE 
          WAY WITH INTEGRITY THAT YOU ALL HAVE SERVED. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BYRD. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? NO. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, GREAT. SO COMING UP, I I'LL BE BRIEF AS WELL SO WE CAN GO HOME. I DO WANT TO SAY THOUGH, ALL SINCERITY, HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO ALL MOTHERS. 
          THOSE THAT ARE YOU KNOW, THAT'S IF YOU HAVE IF YOUR MOTHER'S PEOPLE, WHATEVER ROLE YOU PLAYED IN THAT, YOU KNOW, ADOPTION, WHATEVER. HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY. IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          BUT SPECIFICALLY TO MY MOM, HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY. EVER SINCE THIS ROLE, MY NAME HAS CHANGED. 
          NOW IT'S NOT GIRARD AS MAYOR, BUT EITHER WAY, MOM'S AWESOME. SHE'S DONE GREAT THINGS AND I APPRECIATE HER. AND THEN ALSO TO MY MY OTHER MOM, CASTRO, I APPRECIATE HER, NANA. IT'S HER NAME. AND SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR ALL SHE'S DONE FOR, FOR ME AND THE FAMILY. AND THEN LASTLY, BUT NOT FIRST IS MY, MY WIFE AND ALL SHE'S DONE FOR THE FAMILY AND WEATHERED LOTS OF, OF DIFFICULT TIMES. SO I APPRECIATE HER AND ALL SHE DOES TO MAKE THE THE HOUSE GO SO THAT I CAN SERVE HERE. AND SHE, SHE KEEPS THE KIDS ALIVE AND HER NICKNAME IS A SHOCK ABSORBER BECAUSE SHE TAKES THE FULL BRUNT OF LIFE AND LETS THE PINHOLE THROUGH THAT I CAN HANDLE. THEN I'LL SAY, BE LEERY OF GRADUATION TRAFFIC. THAT STARTS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS YOU. AND GRADUATION ON MOTHER'S DAY. SO MAKE YOUR RESTAURANT RESERVATIONS EARLY THEN I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO CHARLIE. WE GOT RID OF THE INTERIM AND NOW JUST DIRECTOR. 
          SO WAY TO GO. I REMEMBER, MAN, I FORGET WHERE YOU STARTED, BUT YOU STARTED. AND NOW IT STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM. AND NOW WE'RE HERE. AND SO. AND THEN THE LAST. I DO WANT TO THROW THIS OUT LASTLY WHEN WE'RE OUT OF HERE. BUT I DO WANT TO THROW THIS OUT. WE HAVE MONEY FOR A NEW SENIOR CENTER. WE HAVE A SENIOR CENTER THAT NEEDS SOME WORK, CERTAINLY, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE THAT ARE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO START TALKING ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN LEVERAGE THE SENIOR CENTER THAT'S ALREADY IN QUAKERTOWN PARK. YOU CAN LEVERAGE THAT MONEY OR MAKE A TRANSITION THERE, I THINK, AND BUILD A DIFFERENT KIND OF SENIOR CENTER. AND I THINK THERE'S SOME CONNECTIONS THERE. SO AGAIN, THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WILL BE ROBUST. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS THERE IF WE WILL JUST GET CREATIVE AND I THINK WE CAN DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN LATER. AND I'M ENCOURAGED BY OUR LEADERSHIP AND, AND THE FINANCES WILL HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. AND I THINK IF WE IF WE TIGHTEN UP IN THE RIGHT AREAS, I THINK IT IT LENDS ITSELF TO MAKING SOME, SOME REALLY COOL MOVES IN THE FUTURE. AND HOPEFULLY, LORD WILLING, THERE'LL BE A NEW CITY HALL SOMEWHERE IN THERE. BUT ANYWAY. 1113. THAT
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