[WORK SESSION BEGINS AT 2:00 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION ROOM]
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          IS A MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST THE 4TH. IT IS NOW 2:02 P.M. WE WILL START WITH OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS HERE WHO ARE WISHING TO COMMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO DOWN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS 
          [2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda for public hearing and individual consideration.]
REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION OF AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION. ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS IN TOTALLY BY THE DEADLINE AND, AND A QUESTION IS FAIRLY BASIC AND IT'S JUST INFORMATION. IF, IF YOU WANTED TO PULL THINGS BECAUSE OF THAT LIMITATION, I THINK I WOULD RATHER IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ASK IT NOW. AND IF WE CAN KEEP IT FROM BEING PULLED AND HAVING STAFF STAY FOR THE EVENING, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THAT. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. 
          >> AM I CORRECT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VARIOUS APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAS BEEN 
          PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I BELIEVE SO, YES. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> YEAH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. >> THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A QUICK COUPLE QUESTIONS. LIKE FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. Q REGARDING THE CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IF BY KEEPING IT IN HOUSE, DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE STILL COMMITTING TO PROVIDING 35 CROSSING GUARDS AND HAVING THEM HIRED, READY TRAINED TO GO 
          FOR THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR? >> YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. CHARLIE ROSENDAHL, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. WE HAVE HIRED CROSSING GUARDS AND WE'LL BE READY FOR WHEN SCHOOL GETS 
          STARTED. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR ITEM Q AND THEN FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. S THE PUTTING OUT THE RFP FOR APPAREL PROCUREMENT, CREATION OF HATS, SHIRTS, THINGS THAT THE CITY USES FOR STAFF. I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE WHETHER IT'S CREATING SOMETHING IN THE SCORING MATRIX, BUT SOMETHING TO HELP MAYBE GET SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS LOCAL, IN A CITY THAT'S MORE OF A RECOMMENDATION, I GUESS, BUT KIND OF A QUESTION LIKE, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY EVEN? 
          >> YEAH. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MATT HAMILTON CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO. I KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN AN ITEM OF INTEREST FROM COUNCIL IN THE PAST, SPECIFIC TO THIS SOLICITATION. WE WOULD FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES AND, SCORING THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE WITH THE SOLICITATION, BUT SOMETHING CERTAINLY WE COULD 
          LOOK INTO IN THE FUTURE. >> SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THAT PROCESS. THEREFORE WE CAN'T MAKE CHANGES. BUT FOR FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. OH, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A QUESTION. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S IT. I DON'T I THINK MY OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS IN THE BACKUP. THAT'S HONESTLY IT. THANK YOU. AND 
          APOLOGIES IF THAT'S CAUSING STRESS. I'M SO SORRY. >> NO. SO, COUNCILMEMBER FERRY, I WAS INFORMED THAT MAYBE, ITEMS IN PQS AND YOU WERE GOING TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT, 
          ARE WE? >> I DON'T NEED TO PULL ANY OF THEM. 
          >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I'M SORRY. 
          >> AND SO WE DO HAVE C, D, E AND G THAT ARE BEING PULLED FOR ITEMS OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, WHICH ARE THE NOMINATIONS AND ALSO AGENDA ITEM X WHICH IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE. AUGUST THE 18TH HAS BEEN PULLED AS WELL. AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM U. AND IT'S JUST VERY SIMPLE QUESTION TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS WHEN I WAS READING THE BACKUP. SO THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR DONE ON THE DECK. AND THAT WAS I THINK IN 2024. AND WE'RE JUST NOW RATIFYING THAT TODAY. SO I JUST JUST AN IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT THE, 
          THE TIME DELAY WAS ON THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. JOSE GAITAN, EXECUTIVE MANAGER OF POWER SUPPLY. YES, WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE TIMING OF THESE EVENTS. SO IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, WE DID HAVE AN ENGINE THAT, LOST, A VALVE ON THE CYLINDER HEAD, WHICH CAUSED THE DAMAGE TO THE TURBOS. AND, IT'S NOVEMBER, SO WE'RE PREPARING FOR THE WINTER. SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME PRETTY INTERESTING WINTERS LATELY. SO, PRETTY EXPENSIVE AS WELL. AND, SO WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET ALL THE UNITS BACK UP AND GOING TO MEET THE WINTER SEASON AND BE PREPARED. AND IN, 
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IN THAT PROCESS, RIGHT AROUND DECEMBER OF 2024, THE EXISTING CONTRACT, RFP OR CONTRACT WAS AWARDED, I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR PARTS SERVICE AND TURBOS EXPIRED. AND IT AND THERE WAS, VIRTUALLY NO MONEY LEFT OVER IN THAT CONTRACT TO EVEN DO ANYTHING MEANINGFUL FOR THOSE TURBOS. AND SO AFTER WE SENT THE TURBOS, FOR AN ESTIMATE TO SEE WHAT THE COST WAS, WE, WE RECEIVED THE COST AND THEN WE HAD TO REISSUE THE RFP SO THAT WE CAN GET A NEW CONTRACT IN PLACE. SO IN DOING SO, WE SUBMITTED THE RFP AS THE THREE PARTS IN ONE RFP. WE WAITED SEVERAL MONTHS. WE HAD PURCHASING CONTACT THE VENDORS, AND WE HAD LIMITED, RESPONSES TO THE RFP. NONE OF THE, THE VENDORS WHO REPLIED TO THE RFP COULD DO ALL THREE FUNCTIONS OF THAT RFP. AND SO, WE PAUSED, WE HAD PURCHASING REACH OUT TO THE VENDORS TO RESPOND TO THE RFP. 
          THEY DECIDED NOT TO. AND SO THEN WE HAD TO CANCEL THE RFP AND REISSUE IT, BUT NOW BROKEN UP INTO THREE PARTS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE SOME VENDORS THAT WERE ABLE TO DO PARTS OF THE CONTRACT, BUT NOT AS A WHOLE. AND SO THE PLANT MANAGER OF THE DECK, AT THAT TIME WHEN WE WERE GOING TO REISSUE IT, HE DECIDED TO LEAVE THE CITY OF DENTON, AND WE HAD TO REHIRE THE PLANT MANAGER SO THAT HE COULD THEN TAKE OVER. AND SO THAT TOOK A LITTLE TIME AND THE BACK END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN WE FINALLY WERE ABLE TO GET THE PLANT MANAGER HIRED AND REISSUE THOSE 
          RFP AS SEPARATE RFP. >> SO AGAIN, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I, SO, AND I GUESS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SO THE, THE, WE HAD THIS MECHANICAL ISSUE WITH THE DECK, CORRECT? I THOUGHT I READ IT, SO WHEN DID IT ACTUALLY GET REPAIRED? I MEAN, IT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER OF 2024. WHEN, WHEN WAS IT. BECAUSE I KNOW WE SENT IT OUT. WHEN DID THAT ACTUALLY 
          OCCUR. >> SO WE WE DID INSTALL THE TURBOS ONTO THE ENGINES THAT HAD THE ISSUE. AND THOSE TWO TURBOS ARE CURRENTLY SITTING HERE. WE NEED A REPAIR. 
          >> BUT THE INCIDENT IN OCTOBER OF 2024 HAS BEEN CORRECTED. I MEAN IT'S BEEN FIXED. 
          >> YES THAT IS CORRECT. >> AND WHEN WAS IT FIXED. >> I BELIEVE IT WAS. THAT MONTH I BELIEVE. CAN YOU COME OVER HERE? THIS IS ARTHUR PANDO. HE WAS THE MAINTENANCE MANAGER AT 
          THE TIME. OKAY. >> YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE THE INFO. I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS JUST WHAT WAS THE I MEAN, YOU DESCRIBED A LOT OF RFP PROCESSES AND ALL THAT, BUT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO BASICALLY, WHICH I'M OKAY WITH IT, TO RATIFY THAT, THAT EMERGENCY PURCHASE AND THAT EMERGENCY REPAIR BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024. MY ONLY QUESTION IS THE TIMING OF IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS, ALMOST SINCE WE DID IT, AND WHY ARE WE RATIFYING IT THIS LATE? AND IF IF IT'S BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES? THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHAT 
          WAS THE WHAT WAS THE DELAY? >> THE, THE DELAY WAS, WAS PRETTY QUICK AS FAR AS THE REPAIR TIME. SO THE REPAIR WAS COMPLETED WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER. SO REPAIR WAS COMPLETED AFTER IT GOT COMPLETED. THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED GOING BACK OUT TO, TO 
          BUILD THE SAID CONTRACT. >> OKAY. SO ARE WE, ARE WE RATIFYING? AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, ARE WE RATIFYING THE EXPENSE THAT WAS USED TO MAKE THE EMERGENCY REPAIR IN OCTOBER? SO WE'RE RATIFYING IN TWO YEARS LATER, A REPAIR THAT WAS AND MONEY THAT WAS EXPENDED IN 2024. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. YOU CAN SEND IT IN AN EMAIL TO US. I JUST I'VE SEEN THESE BEFORE, BUT THE TIMING WAS, WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS FOR ME AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF TIME COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, 
          >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MY RECOLLECTION OF THAT INCIDENT WAS THAT WE HAD THE SPARE PART ON HAND AT THE TIME, AND NOW YOU'RE REPAIRING THE PART THAT WAS YOUR RETRO, YOUR REPAIRING THE PART THAT WAS REMOVED, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          >> CORRECT. YES. WE HAD WE HAD THE SPARE PARTS AND NOW WE'RE WE'RE REPAIRING. 
          >> SO NOW YOU'RE REPAIRING THE WHAT NOW BECOMES THE SPARE. >> CORRECT. 
          >> CORRECT. SO SO THERE WAS NO OR VERY MINIMAL DOWNTIME. >> CORRECT. 
          >> YES SIR. >> THANK YOU. YEAH. I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF I'M COMMUNICATING VERY, VERY WELL. I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BETWEEN MONEY WAS SPENT IN 2024. SOMEBODY WROTE A CHECK FOR $400,000. AND WE'RE NOW COMING 
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TO COUNCIL TO RATIFY THAT EXPENDITURE, WHICH I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE RATIFICATION. I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO THE TWO YEAR TIME FRAME BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, NOT 
          COMING BACK IN 25. I'M JUST CURIOUS, THAT'S ALL. >> MAYBE THE THIRD PERSON WILL HANDLE IT. SO, TONY THE GENERAL MANAGER. SO YEAH, SO, SO BASICALLY, MAYOR, WE THOUGHT THAT THESE REPAIRS WERE GOING TO BE COVERED IN A CONTRACT. THAT CONTRACT DIDN'T COVER. IT TOOK US A WHILE WITH PURCHASING HELP. THEY, THEY DETERMINED THAT, HEY, YOU REALLY NEED IT. 
          YOU REALLY SHOULD HAVE DONE A DOE IMMEDIATELY. WE DIDN'T DO THAT. AND NOW WE'RE RECTIFYING THAT TO, TO RATIFY THAT PAYMENT THAT WAS MADE IN THAT REPAIR THAT WAS MADE BACK IN 24. 
          >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLARIFICATION FOR AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR WORK SESSION WORK SESSION ITEMS THEN, OUR WORK SESSION ITEM. AND OF COURSE, YOU HAVE YOUR MEETING QUESTIONNAIRE RESPONSES AND HANDOUTS THERE AT YOUR, AT YOUR, AT YOUR CHAIR WORK SESSION 
          [A. ID 26-1084 Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding a policy on data center developments, including a temporary moratorium.
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REPORT THREE A IS ID 26-1084. RECEIVE REPORT DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING A POLICY ON DATA CENTERS DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL CHARLIE ROSENTHAL, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TODAY TO TO WALK THROUGH DATA CENTERS AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A MORATORIUM AND OTHER OPTIONS COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER. SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          ON MAY 14TH, MAYOR PRO TEM STEVENS SUBMITTED A TWO MINUTE PITCH. COUNCIL MOVED THAT FORWARD ON JUNE 2ND AND I SR WAS ISSUED ON THE 26. AND THE AGENDA COMMITTEE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AS A WORK SESSION. SO THE APPROVED PITCH WAS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A POLICY ON HOW DENTON APPROACHES DATA CENTERS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO A DISCUSSION OF A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM AND A FEW OTHER ITEMS. SO WHAT IS A DATA CENTER? SO IT'S A FACILITY, HOUSING SYSTEMS RELATED TO COMPUTING SOFTWARE. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IT EQUIPMENT, PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, CONNECTIVITY AND SECURITY FOR THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN WE'RE CLASSIFYING THOSE INTO FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES. SO YOU HAVE AN ENTERPRISE DATA CENTER, WHICH IS A REALLY INTERNAL TO A BUSINESS OPERATION, CO-LOCATION, WHERE THERE'S A FEW OF THOSE CO-LOCATED TOGETHER. THAT INCLUDES HIGH PROCESSING, HIGH, HIGH POWERED COMPUTING OR AI. THERE'S HYPERSCALE, WHICH ARE LARGER, FACILITIES AND THEN EDGE TYPE FACILITIES. SO THE STANDARDIZED RATINGS DO NOT APPLY TO THE HPC OR AI OR CRYPTO MINING. AND WE REFER TO THOSE AS TIER ZERO DATA CENTERS. ALSO ENTERPRISE DATA CENTERS. 
          SO IF YOU OWN A BUSINESS AND HAVE YOUR INTERNAL SERVERS TO THAT BUSINESS, ARE COMMON AND NOT INCLUDED IN, IN THIS DISCUSSION. SO OUR TIER ZERO OR HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS IN DENTON TODAY WE HAVE TWO, WE HAVE CORE SCIENTIFIC, WHICH IS CO-LOCATED ON. JIM CRYSTAL. 
          IT'S A WAREHOUSE TYPE DATA CENTER WITH UP TO 391MW OF ELECTRIC CAPACITY. IT HAS A FIXED ELECTRICAL LOAD, USES A CLOSED LOOP COOLING SYSTEM. IT'S ON LEASE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY, SO ALMOST 80 ACRES AND THEY'RE NEARING COMPLETION, ON THE CUMULUS AI OR DATA CENTER. 
          IT'S A MODULAR TYPE DATA CENTER, USING 20MW OF ELECTRICITY. HAS VARIABLE ELECTRIC LOAD AND AIR COOLED SYSTEM. AND IT'S ON FOUR ACRES OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY. AND THEY'RE BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION, FROM AN ELECTRIC IMPACT PERSPECTIVE. SO ANYTHING, AN INTERCONNECTION IS REQUIRED, OVER 75MW AND NEEDS ERCOT APPROVAL. UNDER 75MW. IT WOULD BE, THE TRANSMISSION SERVICE PROVIDER AND THAT CAN BE THE CITY OF DENTON OR OTHER TOP PROVIDERS IN THE AREA. WE WOULD HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SERVE THOSE FACILITIES. AND THAT'S LIMITING FACTORS ONLY IF WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SERVE. AND THE DEVELOPER PAYS THE FULL COST TO INTERCONNECT UNLESS THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BENEFIT BENEFIT ERCOT. DISTRIBUTION OR THE ERCOT NETWORK AS A WHOLE, FOR CAPACITY. SO BASED ON RECENT STUDIES, FROM THE DMS PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE RUNNING AT OR NEAR OUR CAPACITY. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO, THESE NEW HIGH DEMAND PROJECTS ARE PUTTING ADDITIONAL STRESS ON THE SYSTEM. AND AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD NEED TO STUDY EACH ONE OF THESE LARGE LOAD CONNECTIONS MORE CAREFULLY AS THEY COME IN. AND DME WOULD DO THAT ANALYSIS 
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WITH THESE NEW PROJECTS. AND THEN WE'VE SUBMITTED TO ERCOT THAT STUDY AND WE'RE WAITING ON FEEDBACK FROM THEM. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER, PICTURE MOVING FORWARD OF WHAT, THE FUTURE CAPACITY LOOKS LIKE FOLLOWING THAT DECISION. ON THE WATER IMPACT SIDE, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MODEL THOSE AS THEY COME IN TO SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THE SYSTEM. WE DO THAT WITH MOST DEVELOPMENTS. SO THE DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO COME IN AND THEY PROVIDE THEIR DEMAND. AND WE MODEL THOSE DEMANDS. 
          THEY WOULD REQUIRE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF EXTENDING THOSE INFRASTRUCTURES AND ALSO THE IMPACT FEES. HERE WE'VE BROKEN DOWN A FEW OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COOLING SYSTEMS FOR DATA CENTERS AND THEIR, THEIR USAGE. SO YOU CAN SEE ON BOTH THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT EVAPORATIVE COOLING SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE USING LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER, BETWEEN 3 AND 5 BILLION GALLONS ANNUALLY. THE TWO TYPES OF DATA CENTERS IN BOLD AT THE BOTTOM ARE THE TWO TYPES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, A FREE AIR COOLING SYSTEM. AND THEN A CLOSED LOOP COOLING SYSTEM. THOSE HAVE SOME ONE TIME 3 TO 5 MILLION GALLON START UPS. AND THEN, BETWEEN 60 AND 100,000 GALLONS ANNUALLY. TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE OF OUR OVERALL SYSTEM, WE USE ABOUT 7 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER A YEAR AS A CITY. MOST OF OUR TYPICAL TOP TEN CUSTOMERS RANGE BETWEEN 50 AND 300 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT TYPE OF IMPACT ONE OF THESE, ESPECIALLY EVAPORATIVE AND INDIRECT OR DIRECT WOULD HAVE ON OUR, ON OUR SYSTEM, AS FAR AS OUR CAPACITY TO SERVE, WE WOULD HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SERVE, ANY TYPE OF THOSE CLOSED LOOP OR FREE AIR COOLING SYSTEMS. BUT IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND OTHER FACTORS. SO WE WOULD STILL MODEL THOSE AS THEY COME IN, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. SO DATA CENTERS IN REAL PROPERTY TAXES HAVE PAID $3.1 MILLION TOTAL. AND SO THE CITY'S, REVENUE PORTION OF THAT IS THREE, 780,000. WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX PORTION OF REVENUES RECEIVED FOR THAT. ON THE SALES TAX SIDE, THEY'VE REMITTED ALMOST $500,000 IN SALES TAX. 
          AND THEN A LARGE FACTOR HERE IS THE ROI THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THEIR USAGE OF ELECTRICITY. SO WE'RE $8.8 MILLION IN ROI, REVENUE COLLECTED. AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE LEASE REVENUE GENERATED FROM THOSE TWO FACILITIES. IT'S JUST A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION. SO IN COMPARISON TO A FEW OTHER CITY OR ANOTHER CITY, FORT WORTH DATA CENTER PROPERTY TAX REVENUE WAS A LITTLE OVER $83 MILLION. AND SO, THESE DO HAVE A HIGH REVENUE POTENTIAL FOR THE CITY. FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE AND HOW WE APPLY THAT ZONING CODE TO NEW DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENTS. SO WE REGULATE ZONING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS ONLY. SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE A DATA CENTER LOCATED IN THE ETJ, OUR ZONING REGULATIONS WOULD NOT APPLY TO THAT DATA CENTER. AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF OUR BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT TO THE CURRENT CODE FOR DATA CENTERS. IN 2021, WE RECEIVED AN INITIAL REQUEST FOR REZONING. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A USE AT THAT TIME. AND SO THERE'S A DIRECTOR DETERMINATION MADE THAT IT WOULD FALL UNDER A WAREHOUSE TYPE USE. FOLLOWING THAT, WE PROACTIVELY BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE. TO CREATE DATA CENTER TYPE USES WITHIN THE CODE AND PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE. SO SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DATA CENTER USES IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE DEFINITIONS HERE ON HOW WE SEPARATE THOSE OUT. BUT THEY HAVE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY AND FROM RESIDENTIAL USES. WE HAVE A SETBACK OF 100FT FOR BOTH OF THOSE TYPES OF USES. THAT WE REQUIRE ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE OR VIBRATION ASSESSMENTS WITH THOSE, FROM A NOISE PERSPECTIVE, THEY CAN'T EXCEED 60DB AT THE PROPERTY LINE OR INCREASE AMBIENT NOISE MORE THAN THREE DECIBELS. THEY CAN'T EXCEED MORE THAN ONE FOOT CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE OR ON TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME, EXCUSE ME, LANDSCAPE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE USE TYPES AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO THIS, THE WAREHOUSE TYPE DATA CENTER HAS, A MAXIMUM GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 55,000FT■!S. 
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FROM A MORATORIUM PERSPECTIVE, A MORATORIUM WOULD BE A TEMPORARY PAUSE ON ACCEPTING OR PROCESSING ANY NEW APPLICATIONS AFTER THE MORATORIUM GOES INTO EFFECT. SO ANY CURRENT APPLICATION WITHIN THE CITY'S PIPELINE AT THE TIME THE MORATORIUM GOES INTO EFFECT WOULD BE VESTED. AND THAT WOULD, THE MORATORIUM WOULD AFFECT THAT APPLICATION. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO LIMIT THAT TO A DEFINED GEOGRAPHIC AREA, WHICH CAN INCLUDE THE CITY LIMITS OR EXTEND INTO THE ETJ WHERE WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY, UNDER STATE LAW, IN CHAPTER TWO, 12 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, CITIES CAN ADOPT A MORATORIUM FOR THREE DIFFERENT CASES. SO THERE CAN BE A SHORTAGE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY DEFINED AS WATER, SEWER DRAINAGE OR ROADWAYS. THEY CAN BE FOR A SIGNIFICANT NEED OF OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES, WHICH, IS CITED AS POLICE OR FIRE, BUT ISN'T SPECIFIC TO THAT. SO IT COULD INCLUDE ELECTRIC AS WELL. AND THEN LASTLY, WE COULD DO IT BASED ON A NEED TO UPDATE LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE ORDINANCES. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ONLY. 
          AND THERE'S A SPECIFIC CARVE OUT FOR ANY PROPERTY ZONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. SO IF THE CITY WERE TO ISSUE A MORATORIUM FOR THE COMMERCIAL MORATORIUM NEEDING LAND UPDATE OR CODE UPDATES, WE THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPLY TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, ON THE REQUIREMENTS, WE MUST SUBMIT WRITTEN FINDINGS ON EACH OF THOSE HAS DIFFERENT WRITTEN FINDINGS. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BASIS FOR THE MORATORIUM WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT THOSE FINDINGS. 
          FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE USE, ONE OF THE LEGAL BASIS FOR MORATORIUM. OVER THIS IS THE GENERAL PROCESS FOR ADOPTING A MORATORIUM. ON THE. THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE, WE'VE, WE'VE OUTLINED THE FASTEST WAY THAT THE CITY COULD ADOPT A MORATORIUM IF WE WERE TO DO SO. 
          GENERALLY WE HAVE TO PUBLISH IN THE PAPER 30 DAYS AHEAD OF A PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL NEED TO HOLD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND HAVE TWO READINGS OF AN ORDINANCE, ADOPTING THE MORATORIUM. AND THEN THAT MORATORIUM WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF CITY COUNCIL. AND SO BASED ON THE TIMELINE WE'VE PUT TOGETHER ON UPCOMING MEETINGS, THAT DECEMBER 2ND MEETING WOULD BE THE EARLIEST THAT WE COULD ADOPT A MORATORIUM. AND THEN WE COULD ONLY ADOPT THAT FOR 90 DAYS. AND THEN FOLLOWING THOSE 90 DAYS, WE WOULD HAVE TO HOLD AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WRITTEN FINDINGS AS TO WHY WE NEED TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM AND THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE TIME UNDER STATE LAW IS 180 DAYS FOR THAT MORATORIUM TO BE IN EFFECT. ONCE THAT MORATORIUM IS COMPLETED, THE CITY WOULD BE LIMITED IN ISSUING ANOTHER MORATORIUM FOR THAT SAME USE FOR TWO YEARS FOLLOWING THAT. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE MORATORIUM, WE WANTED TO PRESENT COUNCIL WITH AN OPTION TO MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS RELATED TO DATA CENTERS. WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED THE TIMELINE. IF WE WERE TO TAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS FORWARD. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, IN THIS TOP WHERE CURRENT ZONING IS ALLOWED, SO WE HAVE DATA CENTERS, BY RIGHTS IN THE G, O, L, I H, AND P F ZONING DISTRICTS WITH USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS. AND THEN WE HAVE AN SUP REQUIREMENTS FOR WAREHOUSE DATA CENTERS AND MRSC AND H C AND THEN MODULAR DATA CENTERS REQUIRE AN SUP. AND ANY OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS. SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF REQUIRING AN SUP IS IT ALLOWS US TO EVALUATE EACH OF THESE COMING FORWARD ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. IT PROVIDES THIS COUNCIL SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHEN MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND ADDS A PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT TO IT. AND THEN YOU CAN JUDGE EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY AS THEY COME FORWARD. SO SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE COULD DO WOULD BE TO REQUIRE AN SUP. WE COULD FURTHER RESTRICT WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS, DATA CENTERS WOULD BE ALLOWED IN AND WE CAN ADD SOME MORE SPECIFIC USE STANDARDS SUCH AS WATER AND WASTEWATER LOADING STUDIES, OR THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY BE ONE OF THE CLOSED LOOP OR FREE AIR COOLING, TYPES. AND AGAIN, SO IF WE WERE TO PUBLISH AN INITIAL, NOTICE IN THE PAPER OF SEPTEMBER 12TH, WE COULD BRING COUNCIL ON BY OCTOBER 27TH, POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE DDC. WE DID SOME RESEARCH ON WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING, JUST 
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TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL SOME IDEA ON WHAT OTHER TYPES OF REGULATIONS CITIES HAVE. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT LEWISVILLE AND THEN NORTH RICHLAND HILLS HAVE JUST ADOPTED, THAT EACH OF THESE DATA CENTERS COME THROUGH AN SUP TYPE PROCESS. FORT WORTH IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. ALSO LOOKING AT DATA CENTERS, AND SOME OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT THEY HAVE THERE. AND THEN SAN MARCOS HAS, TAKEN THE DATA CENTER USE AND NOT ALLOWED IT IN ANY OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS. SO SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE CAME UP FOR CITY COUNCIL ARE TO INITIATE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NEXT STEPS FOR MORATORIUM. WE COULD MODIFY THE D, D, C TO ADD USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, OR MODIFY WHERE DATA CENTERS ARE ALLOWED. AND THEN WE COULD ALSO DO A COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO, AS CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED. AND WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY 
          QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TONY. I THINK HE'S STILL IN THE ROOM. MAYBE. TONY, WHAT I, WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU IS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANY DATA CENTERS 
          IN THE QUEUE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING? >> TONY, THE GENERAL MANAGER. I MEAN, THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROSPECTS, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT WE'VE, THAT HAVE CONTACTED US, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE QUEUE. THERE'S NO, NO STUDIES THAT, THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN. THERE'S BEEN NO FILINGS FOR INTER-CONNECTIONS, THROUGH ERCOT. SO ANY, ANYTHING OVER 75MW WOULD COME THROUGH US. AND THEN WE WOULD THEN SEND THAT OVER TO, TO ERCOT AFTER CONDUCTING SOME STUDIES. SO CURRENTLY THERE'S, THERE'S NONE. 
          BUT AGAIN, THERE IS INTEREST OUT THERE, FOR, FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          >> HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO GET ANY IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE HEARING FROM PEOPLE AND THEN THEY'RE SORT OF NOT COMING BACK? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY THAT MIGHT BE? 
          >> IT'S PROBABLY NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S GOING ACROSS THE STATE. I THINK THE, THE, THE ENVIRONMENT, THE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT IS CHANGING AND THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOVERNOR SENT A LETTER YESTERDAY TO THE PUC AND TO ERCOT. AND SO, SO THERE'S SOME HESITANCY, I THINK, FROM THE INDUSTRY TO, TO DEVELOP. BUT, BUT CERTAINLY IT 
          HASN'T GONE AWAY. >> SURE. >> AND THEN CAN YOU SPEAK TO ERCOT'S CURRENT PAUSE WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WE'VE GOT MORE REQUESTS THAN WE CAN HANDLE. LIKE OUR GRID CAN'T HANDLE THIS MUCH ELECTRICITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE AND FIGURE THIS OUT. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ON WHAT THAT TIMELINE IS LOOKING LIKE? LET'S SAY IT'S UNINTERRUPTED, WHICH I KNOW IT'S MAYBE BEING INTERRUPTED AT THIS POINT. IF IT WAS UNINTERRUPTED, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE TIMELINE BEFORE THEY WOULD EVEN CONSIDER 
          ALLOWING ANY MORE IN THE STATE? >> YES. SO, SO THAT'S THE BATCH PROCESS THAT ERCOT DEVELOPED. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED BATCH ZERO. SO IF YOU WEREN'T INCLUDED IN A BASE LOAD, IF YOU HADN'T ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, NOW YOU'RE GOING THROUGH BATCH ZERO. SO, SO THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT PROCESS, IS, IS NEARING COMPLETION. CERTAINLY WITH THE GOVERNOR'S PAUSE, THAT'S NOW KIND OF PUT THAT INTO QUESTION, TO THEN GET INCLUDED IN BATCH ONE, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ANOTHER 2 TO 3 YEARS POTENTIALLY. NOW AGAIN, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES. CERTAINLY IF THERE'S, ADDED GENERATION SUPPLY, THAT, THAT CREATES A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT THAT COULD SPEED THAT UP. BUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR IS BATCH ONE, YOU'RE LOOKING PROBABLY 2 TO 3 MORE YEARS. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. >> I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. I WOULD SAY FOR, FOR MY POSITION ON THIS, I, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS URGENCY AROUND LONG TERM, PERMANENT MEANINGFUL CHANGES. AND THAT'S WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR, OUR TIME AND OUR MEETINGS STAFF TIME IS DEVELOPING THOSE MEANINGFUL, LASTING PROTECTIONS. 
          CHARLIE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE OPTIONS? SO WITH, WITH OPTION ONE, IF WE DID THAT BY ITSELF, THAT DOESN'T GET US ANYWHERE. WE AFTER SIX MONTHS, WE'RE BACK WHERE WE WERE. AND WE SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME AND WE'RE BACK WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY. OPTION THREE WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT ONE IS IF WE COMPLETE SOME, SOME THINGS EARLY, WHAT WE WERE TOLD WAS THAT MAY NEGATE OUR REASONING FOR THE PAUSE AND THAT WOULD UNDO OUR OWN PAUSE EFFECTIVELY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE HAVE ANY IN THE QUEUE. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKELY. AND I'M HAPPY IF WE GOT ONE IN THE QUEUE TO VOTE AGAINST IT DURING THIS TIME. WHAT PEOPLE WANT IS, IS NOT TEMPORARY THINGS WE WANT, THEY WANT LASTING, MEANINGFUL, RAPID IMPROVEMENTS AND TIGHTENING OF REGULATIONS. AND I FEEL LIKE 
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THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ALL OF OUR TIME. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD SUPPORT OPTION TWO. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAVE PROPOSED, IF I HAD TO PUT SOMETHING AT THE TOP, IT WOULD BE THE SUP. SO THAT FOR, FOR ALL DATA CENTERS, SO THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE COMES TO THE PUBLIC FOR INPUT COMES TO COUNCIL FOR AN UP OR DOWN VOTE, AND THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THOSE ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS, BUT I OTHERWISE SUPPORT EVERYTHING ELSE Y'ALL PROPOSED. I WOULD ALSO BE CURIOUS, AT SOME POINT IN US LOOKING AT, POTENTIALLY REQUIRING NEW DATA CENTERS ABOVE A CERTAIN MEGAWATT SIZE TO BASICALLY BUILD NEW ENERGY GENERATION, WHICH I THINK THE STATE IS SORT OF POKING AT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REQUIRING THAT. 
          I'D BE REALLY CURIOUS IF THERE WAS A WAY TO REQUIRE THEM TO BUILD GREEN ENERGY, AND THAT IF THEY WERE TO LEAVE, IF THERE'S SOME LEGAL WAY THAT WE COULD OWN THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THEY BUILD SOLAR OR SOMETHING, WOULD THERE BE A POSSIBILITY IF THEY LEFT THAT WE COULD BECOME OWNERS OF THE SOLAR OR WHATEVER THEY'VE BUILT? I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT, EXPLORING THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN THE FINAL THING IS I'M CURIOUS FOR US TO LOOK AT CREATING A FORMAL FINANCIAL POLICY THAT PROHIBITS THE USE OF DATA CENTER REVENUES FOR ONGOING COSTS LIKE SALARIES AND SERVICES. THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING. IF THEY LEAVE SUDDENLY AND WE LOSE THAT REVENUE, WE'VE NOW LOST THAT REVENUE FOR SALARIES AND SERVICES. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MASSIVE CUTS, AND I DO NOT EVER WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. SO I'M, I'M CURIOUS TO EXPLORE ALSO A FORMAL FINANCIAL POLICY THAT THAT IS THE POLICY OF THIS CITY COUNCIL THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR ONE OFFS. LIKE, HEY, THE STREET NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OR CATALYST FUND OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S SORT OF ONE OFF. IF IT GOES AWAY, WE'RE NOT CUTTING STAFF AND WE'RE NOT CUTTING SERVICES. AND I APPRECIATE MAYOR PRO TEM FOR 
          BRINGING THIS TO US FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR NOW FOR SOME CLARIFICATION. AND I THINK IT'S DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CITY ATTORNEY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, MY ON THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER IT OR NOT. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT I HAD JUST HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND SOME DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS IS BECAUSE OF ERCOT'S PAUSE, THERE'S A LIKELIHOOD OF OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS IN THE CITY. I THINK WHAT I NEED CLARIFICATION ON IS, IS IT ACCURATE? AND DOES ERCOT'S PAUSE PREVENT SOMEONE FROM PURCHASING PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR DATA CENTERS IN THIS COMMUNITY? DO YOU SEE 
          WHAT I'M SAYING? >> YEAH, I THINK SO. AS FAR AS THE RELIABILITY OF ERCOT'S PREDICTIONS OR THE MODEL TIMELINE, I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT IS GOING TO BE AS FAR AS THE IMPACT OF THE CITY. IF SOMEONE CAME IN TOMORROW AND APPLIED FOR OR BOUGHT A PROPERTY AND IT WAS ZONED TODAY FOR DATA CENTER, IF THEY APPLIED FOR A PERMIT, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SOME VOTING LAWS IN TEXAS, WHICH BASICALLY ALLOW YOU TO START YOUR PROCESS. IF YOU START BEFORE A CHANGE IN THE CODE HAPPENS, YOU GET TO CARRY FORWARD AND COMPLETE YOUR PROJECT UNDER THAT EXISTING CODE. SO I THINK AS FAR AS OUR CONTROL OVER THIS, YES, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT SOMEONE COULD COME IN AND APPLY TOMORROW AND BE UNDER OUR EXISTING CODE. EVEN IF WE WENT THROUGH AND DID AN SUP, THEY WOULD STILL BE NOT 
          SUBJECT TO THAT REQUIREMENT. IF THAT CHANGES IN THE FUTURE. >> I THINK WHAT I NEED 
          CLARIFICATION ON IS THAT REGARDLESS OF ERCOT'S PAUSE. >> YES, ERCOT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN THAT, OR THEY'RE KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPEN SEPARATELY. WE DON'T 
          CONTROL THE ERCOT PROCESS AND HOW THAT LOOKS. OKAY. >> ANYBODY ELSE? OH GOD, I NEED 
          A BOOK. >> YOU SURE? ABSOLUTELY. I GUESS I'M RIGHT. I DOMINATED. 
          >> NO, NO, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK IT ALWAYS IT ALWAYS HAPPENS TO WHOMEVER IS IN THAT SEAT. THEY'RE ALWAYS KIND OF THE LAST GET LOOKED AT. I'M SO SORRY. THANK YOU. FIRST I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER RUMOHR. I HAD SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS AND POINTS. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU VOICING THOSE. AND I HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME FEELINGS YOU DO OR THOUGHTS THAT YOU DO. AND I, I DID WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE ANY BARRIER TO DENY AN SUP FOR AN EXPANSION OF A CENTER VERSUS JUST A NEW DATA CENTER? IS THAT SOMETHING WE KNOW? 
          >> YEAH. SO I THINK IT WOULD, IF IT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE ZONING THAT THEY HAVE, IF THEY'VE GOT A PREVIOUS SUP, THEN THEY COULD CONTINUE THAT. I MIGHT ASK. 
          >> IF THE EXPANSION HAD NOT BEEN APPROVED YET. >> YES. IF IT'S ALLOWED UNDER, IF IT'S ALLOWED YOU'RE ASKING IF IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT NOW AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT 
          APPROVAL AND THEY WANT TO EXPAND IN THE FUTURE. >> AND WHAT CAN WE REQUIRE THEM 
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          TO. >> YEAH, I THINK, >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO. 
          >> YEAH. >> AND AGAIN, SORRY, I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF. 
          >> NOT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH LEGAL ADVICE, BUT IF IT'S ALLOWED TODAY AND THEN WE REQUIRE THEM TO GET AN SUP, THEY BASICALLY BECOME A NONCONFORMING RIGHT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE UNDER THE ZONING CODE. THERE'S A LOT OF LAW THAT REGULATES HOW YOU EXPAND OR WHETHER YOU CAN EXPAND A NONCONFORMING, RIGHT? SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT CONTRASTED WITH THE VESTING WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WHAT WAS THEIR INITIAL PLAN AND HOW FAR ARE THEY IN THAT PROCESS OF BUILDING IT. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE TWO THINGS VERY CLOSELY AND FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE WOULD CONTROL WHETHER THEY'RE VESTED TO A BIGGER PROJECT OR WHETHER THEY'RE NONCONFORMING, AND THEREFORE WOULD BE LIMITED IN HOW MUCH THEY COULD EXPAND IT. 
          >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. AND, IS THERE ANY WAY DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATED COST AS FAR AS THE MORATORIUM PROCESS? I SEE THAT, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH A BUNCH OF HOOPS AND I CAN SEE, THAT THERE'S A PROCESS FOR, I'M SURE A REASON, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO BE A BIT OF A CUMBERSOME PROCESS. BUT DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH THE EVIDENCE TO JUSTIFY OUR NEED FOR A MORATORIUM, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT, STEPS THAT ARE NEEDED? 
          >> YEAH. I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST FOR WHAT THAT WOULD BE. I THINK IT WOULD BE DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR JUSTIFICATION FOR THE MORATORIUM WOULD BE, WE, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO SUPPORT THAT IN SOME WAY WITH STUDIES. SO IT MAY MAY REQUIRE US TO INITIATE A STUDY. AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD BRING THAT WRITTEN JUSTIFICATION FORWARD WITH THE, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO FOR THAT MORATORIUM WOULD 
          HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 60 DAYS, ROUGHLY. >> AND IT SEEMS FROM THE PRESENTATION AND ANSWER SO FAR THAT THE JUSTIFICATION WOULDN'T COME FROM A LOAD CAPACITY, THAT IT WOULD COME FROM, OUR NEED TO REVISE OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE, OR SOMETHING TO THAT TUNE, FOR THAT REASONS AND OTHER REASONS, WHAT I WOULD, MY DIRECTION WOULD BE, I WOULD GO WITH OPTION NUMBER TWO. I THINK TO A, I THINK IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF BEEN PREEMPTED AS FAR AS A MORATORIUM BY THE STATE AT THIS TIME. I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO GO THROUGH THOSE STEPS. HOWEVER, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE COUNCIL APPROVING REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALL DATA CENTERS USES IN ANY DISTRICT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN BEFORE WE COULD EVEN GET A MORATORIUM PASSED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD HAVE WIDE APPROVAL AS WE CONTINUE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL, FINANCIAL, LAND USE NOISE. PROS AND CONS TO HAVING THESE CENTERS. AND AS FAR AS THEN, I WOULD SAY KIND OF AS A BACKUP NEXT TO THAT, NEXT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE, TALKING ABOUT TO SEE AND TO BE, BUT I THINK THE, IN MY OPINION, THE IMMEDIATE GOAL WOULD BE TO GO WITH TO A, REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ALL THE CENTERS TO GIVE THIS BODY AND THE FUTURE BODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT ADVANCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SITUATION IS, WHAT OUR CAPACITY IS AT THAT TIME AS WE LOOK TO EXPAND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND POTENTIAL INCOME, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER CITIZENS AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE. 
          SO, YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, MAYOR PRO TEM AND, THOSE THAT WOULD BE, THAT 
          WOULD BE MY INPUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. 
          >> THANK YOU. TALK TO ME ABOUT ABOUT THE WATER. IT WAS IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT, THE 
          DATA CENTERS RECYCLE WATER. AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. >> NO, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES OF WATER SYSTEMS DATA CENTERS CAN USE. AND SO THE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS JUST ONE OF THOSE. THERE ARE SOME THAT USE, EVAPORATIVE COOLING, WHICH THEY WOULD USE CONTINUE TO USE WATER. BUT IT ENDS UP BEING UNAFFORDABLE FOR 
          THEM TO USE THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER AND CONTINUE THAT USE. >> EVAPORATIVE, MEANING THAT 
          THE WATER GOES AWAY AND THEY HAVE TO REPLACE IT. >> CORRECT? YEAH. 
          >> AND I HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT ON THAT JUST LEFT ME, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF THE CLOSED LOOP CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM. AND FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK I AGREE, OPTION TWO IS, IS A, IS A GOOD, 
          IS A GOOD THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. >> YES. COUNCILMEMBER PERRY. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS IN THINKING ABOUT TIMELINES SINCE YOU GAVE LIKE THE TIMELINE OF WHAT A 
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MORATORIUM WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR OPTIONS A, B, AND OR C, TO COME 
          TO FRUITION TO CHANGE THE CODE? HOW QUICKLY COULD THAT HAPPEN? >> YEAH. SO, SO THAT WAS THE, THE OUTLINE WE PROVIDED HERE. SO WE COULD PUBLISH A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING IN THE PAPER ON THE 12TH AND HOLD THAT FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WITH P AND Z ON SEPTEMBER 23RD. AND THEN COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION ON THE 13TH. AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS WOULD BE OCTOBER 27TH. AND CITY COUNCIL HAS THE OPTION IF WE WANTED TO RUN THAT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REVIEW COMMITTEE. WE ALSO COULD DO THAT HEARD. 
          >> AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS. IN THE, IS IT THE BACKUP? LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. MAYBE IT'S IN THE ISR, MAYBE IT'S IN THIS PRESENTATION. WHEN WE TALKED, OH, IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION REVENUES. FINANCIALS. SORRY. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LIKE ANY COMPANY THAT HAS PROPERTY THAT OVER TIME IT DEPRECIATES, WHICH THEN LOWERS ITS VALUE. SO THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY VALUATIONS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. AND WITH IT BEING CONSIDERABLY LARGE, THAT THAT MIGHT AFFECT OUR TAX RATE. HEAVILY. AND I ALSO AM. I'M CONCERNED, I'M CONCERNED. AND I THINK FOR ME, I UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSALS FOR CHANGING OUR CODE, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE WANT FOR A MORATORIUM. I THINK THAT THEY BOTH ARE AVENUES OF PROTECTION. 
          AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY FOR ME, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WANT TO NOT DO BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          WHY CAN'T WE NAVIGATE BOTH? THAT IS AN OPTION, CORRECT? OPTION THREE IS TO DO BOTH. 
          OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO YEAH. FOR ME IT JUST MAKES SENSE. LIKE WE WE WANT TO TAKE THIS PAUSE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY. THERE'S NOTHING PRECLUDING PEOPLE FROM PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE NOW. RIGHT. SO AT THE VERY LEAST, IF THIS DEBT AND CODE REVIEW WERE TO GO AT RAPID PACE, THE EARLIEST WE'D SEE IS OCTOBER. AND THAT'S IF EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED, IF EVERYTHING IS EXECUTED AND DONE, AND IF NOT, IF THAT GETS HELD UP IN A COMMITTEE, IF THAT GETS HELD UP IN COUNCIL, THEN WE'RE 
          BACK WHERE WE STARTED HAVING TO REPEAT A PROCESS, AM I CORRECT? >> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. BUT. RIGHT. YEAH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD. I MEAN, IF COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO MOVE THIS PATH FORWARD, THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT. I MEAN, WE WOULD PUBLISH IN THE PAPER IN JUST A FEW WEEKS AND AND BRING THAT FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          >> HEARD. YEAH. THAT I I'D LIKE TO SEE BOTH PLANS THEN I WOULD LIKE BOTH. 
          >> AND JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY TOO, ON THE MORATORIUM ITSELF, IT WOULD HAVE SIMILAR VESTING RIGHTS. AND SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO SAME, SAME WITH THE DDC, IF SOMEONE WERE TO APPLY TOMORROW, LIKE WE DISCUSSED, IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR THE MORATORIUM IF IT WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT IN DECEMBER AS WE'RE PROPOSING. THEN ANY VESTING THAT HAPPENS AHEAD OF THAT, THEY WOULD BE 
          VESTED FROM THAT MORATORIUM. >> RIGHT. AND THE SAME GOES FOR THE DDC DRDCRC OPTION TOO. IF THEY IF ANYBODY IF YOU CAN GO BACK ONE SLIDE FOR ME FRIEND. THANK YOU. IF ANYONE WERE TO 
          APPLY BY OCTOBER 26TH, IT'S THE SAME. >> CORRECT? 
          >> RIGHT. YEAH. THANK YOU. >> YES. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS CLARIFICATION AS MUCH AS IT'S A STATEMENT, Y'ALL CAN LET ME KNOW. BECAUSE I SEE IN THE, IN THE BACKUP QUESTIONS, A COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR ASKED ABOUT SHORTAGES, BASED ON LIKE THE NEED, LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. OH, I JUST HAD IT. SO THIS STATE LAW INDICATES THAT FOR A MORATORIUM, THE CITY MUST ADOPT WRITTEN FINDINGS. AND I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE THE ANSWER I THAT WE RECEIVED IN HERE WAS THAT DME BELIEVES THAT THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SERVE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THE BACKUP MATERIAL. I THINK, SAYS CORE SCIENTIFIC. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN READ ALL THAT. LET'S SEE. THAT THAT WERE I MEAN, THAT WERE AT CAPACITY. IS THAT IS THAT RIGHT? MAXIMUM CAPACITY UNTIL LOCAL TRANSMISSION OVERLOADS ARE 
          RESOLVED. >> YES. SO, SO I THINK THE, I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT, BASED ON OUR CURRENT REVIEW OF OUR, OF OUR SYSTEM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ABOVE 
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75MW, IS LIKELY BEYOND THE CAPACITY WE HAVE TODAY. ANYTHING BELOW THAT, WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE LOAD ITEM OR MULTIPLE SMALLER ITEMS WE COULD LIKELY SERVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO STUDY THEM. BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE LARGER LOADS ABOVE 75, 75MW, WE LIKELY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THEM CURRENTLY PENDING ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION FROM ERCOT. AND JUST SO, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, SO ANY, ANY SINGLE, DATA CENTER THAT'S 75MW AND BELOW THAT ONLY REQUIRES SP APPROVAL. SO IT'S ONLY THOSE THAT ARE ABOVE 75MW THAT REQUIRE ERCOT APPROVAL. 
          >> OKAY. I MEAN, SO I STILL THINK THAT THE WAY I SEE THIS IS THAT THERE IS A SHORTAGE. 
          AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO NARRATE MUCH AND JUST STATE KIND OF MY POSITION. TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER FAIRY, ACTUALLY TO EVERYONE'S POINT, EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE SAYING THE SAME THING. JUST COMING TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION. COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR AND JESTER, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING 100%. AND I THINK THAT THE BEST COURSE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE OF THAT IS A MORATORIUM. YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A HOT BUTTON ISSUE FOR A FEW YEARS, AND IT STARTED BEFORE ANY OF US WERE ON COUNCIL. THIS STARTED YEARS AGO, BEFORE ANY OF US WERE HERE, WHEN THERE WAS A DECISION ABOUT, CRYPTO MINING AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A BOON OR NOT FOR THE CITY. AND I GUESS EVERYONE CAN MAKE THEIR OWN CONCLUSION ON THAT, BECAUSE OF THAT, I, I'LL TAKE YOUR CUE ON OPTION THREE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE PURPOSE, HONESTLY, I SEE 1 IN 3 VERY SIMILARLY, I DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE AT ALL BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF A MORATORIUM IS TO TAKE YOUR TIME TO STUDY THE FACTS CLEARLY AND COME UP WITH A CLEAR SOLUTION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. THIS IS A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM IS NOT JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SIT AROUND FOR SIX MONTHS AND DO NOTHING. IT IS SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE ACTION WHILE DOING IT. AND SO I, WHAT, WHETHER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT 1 OR 3, IT REACHES THE SAME EXACT GOAL AT THE END. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T AT THIS POINT KNOW THAT I HAVE MUCH ELSE TO SAY. THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR ON THIS. AND I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO TAKE THEIR CUE, AND, AND GO FOR 
          THAT OPTION THREE. >> OKAY. COMBINATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER 
          VILLARREAL. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MAYOR PRO TEM STEPHENS AND COUNCIL MEMBER FERRY OPTION THREE COMBINATION. THANK YOU. 
          >> SURE. >> CHARLIE. SO, DID YOU SAY THAT IF WE DID THE DDC UPDATE OR THE UPDATES THAT WE HAVE HERE, THAT WE COULD COMPLETE THOSE BY OCTOBER? THAT'S CORRECT. AND HAVE THOSE ADOPTED IN PLACE CORRECT. AND WHAT WAS THE EARLIEST DATE WE COULD 
          ESTABLISH A MORATORIUM? >> DECEMBER 2ND. >> DECEMBER 2ND. SO WE COULD DO THESE FASTER. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. IF WE TOOK OUT THE SUP PIECE ONLY, WOULD THAT SPEED UP THE LIKE, COULD WE GET THAT IN PLACE FASTER THAN OCTOBER IF WE PULLED OUT JUST THAT ONE PIECE AND PRIORITIZED IT? OR WOULD IT STILL BE THE SAME DATE? 
          >> YEAH, WE WOULD. THE TIMELINE, THE CRITICAL PATH IS ON THE NEED TO PUBLISH IN THE PAPER AND HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND SO WHETHER THAT'S TO A, B, C, OR ALL OF THEM, IT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE SAME TIMELINE. OKAY. UNLESS UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO 
          HAPPEN FOR A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. >> RIGHT. AND SO IF OUR DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR WRITTEN STATEMENTS ARE, IF WE SAID THAT IT WAS TO TAKE TIME TO DO THIS, AND THEN WE FINISH THIS BEFORE THE MORATORIUM IS IN PLACE, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT WE COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MORATORIUM BECAUSE WE'VE SORT OF SOLVED OUR WHICH MAYBE 
          THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. >> THEY'RE BOTH VIABLE OPTIONS. YOU COULD DO BOTH. OKAY. YEAH. 
          >> OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. >> YES. 
          >> COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. APOLOGIES FOR GATHERING MY THOUGHTS EARLIER. I ALSO ANOTHER REASON I'M CHOOSING THREE IS BECAUSE WE KNOW WITH THESE TWO NEW FACILITIES, WE KNOW THAT ENERGY IS VOLATILE. THERE'S A LOT OF RISK. AND I THINK IF WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD WITH BOTH AND WE HAVE BETTER CODE IN OCTOBER AND IN DECEMBER, WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A MORATORIUM, IT STILL GIVES US MORE OF THAT TIME TO SEE THINGS COME TO FRUITION BECAUSE WE'RE BUYING ENERGY, YOU KNOW, A MONTH OUT, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE MORE TIME TO SEE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OUR NUMBERS MATCHING WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE. ARE WE GETTING THE BENEFIT THAT THESE TWO EXISTING ONES ARE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO BRING US? AND FOR ME, I THINK TAKING THAT PAUSE IS DOING RIGHT BY THE 160 SOMETHING EMAILS I GOT FROM THE 
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COMMUNITY SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WE WANT A MORATORIUM. I THINK IT'S THAT BOTH. AND THAT WORKS 
          BEST FOR ME. SO THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. >> WELL. IS EVERYBODY LOOKING 
          AT ME? NO, I'M. >> JUST KIDDING. >> YOU KNOW, I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO MY FIRST TERM ON IS DISTRICT FOUR REP IS YOU NEVER TALK LAST, YOU KNOW SITUATION. 
          BUT MY MY DECISION HAS BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THIS. FIRST OF ALL, I DO APPRECIATE STAFF BRINGING FORWARD MORE PERMANENT LONG TERM SOLUTIONS AND OPTIONS. WHEN YOU START REZONING EVERY PIECE OF LAND IN DENTON AND PUTTING REGULATIONS AND LIMITATIONS ON EVERY PIECE OF LAND, YOU'RE REALLY AFFECTING A LARGE SWATH OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. SO YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE PLENTY OF PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY. WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT OPTION THREE IS THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EMAILS THAT YOU MAY BE RECEIVING. I'VE NOT RECEIVED TOO MANY EMAILS ABOUT LONG TERM SOLUTIONS, AND MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE THINKING MORE OF RIGHT NOW IN THE IMMEDIACY AND LONG TERM IS OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN SHORT TERM, WHICH WILL EXPIRE. BUT I WOULD REALLY, THE REASON I'M GOING TO CHOOSE OPTION NUMBER THREE IS BECAUSE IT BOTH ALLOWS US, IT ALLOWS THEM BOTH TO MOVE ALONG TO ME, WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS? AND THAT IS PUBLIC OPINION TRACK. EACH ONE REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO IF ALL OF A SUDDEN IT EITHER ONE OF THESE, NO MATTER WHICH ONE, YOU GET PUBLIC SENTIMENT FOR WHATEVER REASON, LET'S SAY WE GO TO MORATORIUM PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S THE CASE. AND PEOPLE HAVE RECOGNIZED THE POINTS AND THE IDEAS OF, OF THE THE LONG TERM SOLUTION AND DON'T NEED THIS MAN. WE'LL PROBABLY HEAR THAT. AND I THINK IF WE HEAR THAT, I TRUST THAT THIS BODY ALSO CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO, TO THE PUBLIC. SO, I DON'T SEE THIS AS A, AS A ALL OR NOTHING. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROCEED DOWN BOTH TRACKS. YES. SOME IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME, A LITTLE MONEY. I WILL SAY AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL POLICY, I THINK ONCE WE START TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET ON SATURDAY, WE'RE GOING TO SEE EXACTLY HOW, WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY FOR DATA CENTERS, OUR HANDS CAN BE EXTREMELY TIED AND WE ARE FORCED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, WHICH REALLY TAKES THAT OUT OF THE HANDS OF OF THE COUNCIL. SO I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU. IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD HAVE THAT APPROACH. BUT DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS ARE CLASSIFIED, IT'S, IT'S A NONSTARTER. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE AUGUST 8TH DISCUSSION WHERE WE CAN REALLY DELVE INTO THAT IN MORE DETAIL AND HOW THAT IMPACT IS. 
          AND IT'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE ON ONE HAND, IT PROVIDES SOME TAX RELIEF TO THE CITIZENS. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT TIES THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS HANDS TO BE ABLE TO REALLY SPEND MONEY IN THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY. SO IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION. SO I'M FOR OPTION THREE. AND IF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT DIRECTION BASED UPON EITHER COMMENTARY OR THINGS SUCH AS THAT, WE CAN DO THAT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS COMES SIMILARLY IN THE FIRST ROUND. AND I THINK THAT CAN GIVE US A REALLY GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT THE SENTIMENT IS, CONTINUING TO BE OR NOT CONTINUING TO BE BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE LAST TWO OR 3 OR 4 WEEKS, I THINK WE'VE ALL RECEIVED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EMAILS REGARDING THIS ISSUE, WHATEVER SIDE YOU FALL ON. SO I'M WITH OPTION THREE, WHICH I THINK THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TO GIVE DIRECTION FOR OPTION THREE. SO I THINK IT CAN BE SOMEWHAT THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. AND THEN IF THAT CHANGES, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 
          [B. ID 26-0969 Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the City of Denton’s 90th State Legislative Program.
    [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 60 minutes]]
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION WORK SESSION THREE B WHICH IS ID 26-0969. 
          RECEIVE REPORT. HOLD DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CITY OF DENTON'S 90TH STATE 
          LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHRISTI FOGEL, CHIEF OF STAFF AND INTERIM CITY SECRETARY. I'M HERE TO RECAP A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND TELL YOU ABOUT OUR APPROACH FOR THE UPCOMING 90TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND WALK THROUGH THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK BEFORE WE BRING THIS BACK IN A MORE FINAL FORM. THE LEGISLATURE ONLY MEETS FOR 140 DAYS EVERY OTHER YEAR, SO EVERYTHING HAPPENS FAST AND ALL AT ONCE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RECAP, LAST SESSION SET A RECORD WITH 8731 BILLS FILED, ONLY 1222 OF THOSE PASSED. 
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THAT'S A 14% PASS RATE, ONE OF THE LOWEST ON RECORD. THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW MUCH NOISE WE HAVE TO KIND OF FILTER THROUGH EACH SESSION TO FIND OUT WHAT ACTUALLY MATTERS TO DENTON DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION OF THOSE THOUSANDS OF BILLS, OVER 1700 IMPACTED CITIES AND 262 OF THOSE PASSED DIRECTLY IMPACTING CITIES. AND THEN OUR TEAM LAST SESSION TRACKED 711 BILLS, AND 229 OF THOSE WERE PASSED, AND WE IMPLEMENTED THOSE. SO IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF VOLUME. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THIS, THIS CHART HERE FROM THE PUBLIC POLICY, PROJECT. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NUMBERS OF BILLS HAS STEADILY INCREASED, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL SESSIONS FOR SURE, WHILE THE PASSAGE RATES HAVE DECREASED. SO, JUST THE ODDS ARE ALWAYS STACKED AGAINST ANY BILL FILED. AND YOU NEVER, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND WHAT DOESN'T. SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERESTING THAT, KENNEDY AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER DAY WAS ONE OF THE CORRELATIONS BETWEEN THE RISE IN BILLS BEING FILED, HAS TO DO WITH THE INCREASE OF USE OF TECHNOLOGY. SO YOU USED TO HAVE TO WALK DOWN TO AN OFFICE PRINT, WRITE ON PAPER, FILE A BILL MANUALLY NOW FROM YOUR OFFICE IN THE CAPITOL OR WHEREVER YOU CAN CLICK A BUTTON AND A BILL IS FILED. SO THERE'S NOT NEARLY AS MUCH, OBSTACLE TO FILING A BILL. THERE'S REALLY NO REASON FOR A LEGISLATOR TO NOT FILE A BILL IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING, WHETHER THEY THINK IT HAS AN OPTION OR A PATH TO SUCCESS OR NOT. AND THEN ALSO THE USE OF AI TECHNOLOGY, IT IS EASIER THAN EVER TO WRITE A BILL, TO WRITE A BILL ANALYSIS TO GET ALL OF THAT INFORMATION HANDED TO YOU DIRECTLY. SO JUST A LITTLE INFORMATION FOR YOU. A FEW KEY DATES TO HAVE ON YOUR RADAR. NOVEMBER 9TH IS BILL PRE FILING. SO WE'LL SEE A WAVE OF SEVERAL HUNDRED BILLS FILED ON NOVEMBER 9TH IN THE WEEKS FOLLOWING. A LOT OF THESE BILLS ARE GOING TO BE STATE REPRESENTATIVES PRIORITY BILLS. 
          THE LOWER THE BILL NUMBER, THE QUICKER YOU KIND OF MAKE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THEN JANUARY 12TH IS SESSION OPENING DAY. MARCH 12TH IS A BIG ONE. THAT'S WHEN WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST. WHEN ALL THE BILLS ARE FILED AND THERE WILL BE NONE, FILED AFTER THAT. 
          AND THEN THE LAST DAY OF SESSION IS MAY 31ST. AND SOME OF THE ISSUE KEY ISSUES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT KIND OF REMAIN OUR TOP ISSUES EVERY SESSION, PREEMPTION AND HOME RULE, THIS REMAINS A TOP, THREAT. WE EXPECT RENEWED EFFORTS TO RESTRICT LOCAL ZONING AUTHORITY, SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATION, TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCES, RIGHT OF WAY. AND THIS IS KIND OF A THROUGH LINE ACROSS ALMOST EVERY SESSION NOW, THE STATE NARROWING IN ON WHAT CITIES CAN AND CANNOT DO LOCALLY, PROPERTY TAX AND FINANCE, CONTINUED PRESSURE ON REVENUE, REVENUE CAPS, LIMITS ON HOW WE ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS AND BONDS, COLLECT IMPACT FEES AND TRANSFER BETWEEN FUNDS. THESE DIRECTLY AFFECT OUR BUDGET. AND SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THOSE EXTREMELY CLOSELY. AND THEN GROWTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE DENTON'S GROWTH AND THE RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS WE FACE ARE DRIVING NEW LEGISLATION ON LAND USE, UTILITY POLICY AND TRANSPORTATION FUNDING. AND THIS IS ONE WHERE WE ACTUALLY WANT ENGAGEMENT, NOT JUST DEFENSE OF WHAT BILLS ARE FILED. SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE AS WELL. SO, THIS IS KIND OF THE BIG SHIFT. WE WANT TO, TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT TODAY, MOVING FROM A THIRD PARTY LOBBYING CONTRACT TO AN IN HOUSE LEGISLATIVE TEAM. WE BELIEVE THIS GETS US BETTER ADVOCACY AT A LOWER COST. UNDER THE PREVIOUS APPROACH, WE HAD AN EXTERNAL LOBBYIST REPRESENTING THE CITY, AND THAT WORKED, BUT IT CAME WITH SOME LIMITATIONS LIMITED INTERNAL KNOWLEDGE, BUILDING MEANING EXPERTISE WALKED OUT THE DOOR WHEN CONTRACTS ENDED, LESS DIRECT CONTROL OVER HOW OUR MESSAGE WAS DELIVERED AND ONGOING CONSULTING COSTS. THIS NEW APPROACH PUTS DEDICATED STAFF DIRECTLY IN THE ADVOCACY SEAT THAT GETS US DEEPER. INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE STAYS WITH THE CITY YEAR OVER CONTROLR LEGISLATIVE VOICE. AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE LOSE ACCESS TO SPECIALIZED EXPERTISE. WE CAN STILL CONTRACT WITH ISSUE AREA EXPERTS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, RATHER THAN HAVING SOMEONE ON A FULL TIME RETAINER. AND WE'RE ALSO PAIRING THIS WITH A SOPHISTICATED BILL TRACKING 
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TECHNOLOGY, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES. SOMETHING I WANT TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT IS INCREASED COUNCIL ENGAGEMENT. THIS WILL MEAN HOW YOU GENUINELY CHANGE WILL CHANGE HOW THIS IS GENUINE CHANGE IN HOW YOU'LL EXPERIENCE SESSION AND NOT JUST, A POINT ON THE SLIDE, YOU'LL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS. YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM STAFF ABOUT, ABOUT ISSUES THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT. WE WON'T HAVE TO ROUTE QUESTIONS THROUGH A THIRD PARTY CONTRACT OR WAIT ON A CONSULTANT'S SCHEDULE. YOU'LL HAVE MORE FREQUENT AND SUBSTANTIVE UPDATES. THE TRACKING PLATFORM THAT WE'LL BE USING LETS US GENERATE REAL REPORTING ON BILL ACTIVITY THROUGH SESSION, SO COUNCIL UPDATES WILL BE DATA DRIVEN AND REGULAR, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE EARLIER AND MORE INPUT ON OUR POSITIONS. BECAUSE NOT JUST AN OUTSIDE FIRM, STAFF ARE SETTING THE DAY TO DAY ADVOCACY PRIORITIES. COUNCIL WILL HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON POSITIONS BEFORE THEY'RE TAKEN, AND NOT JUST REVIEW THEM AFTER THE FACT AND SHARED ACCOUNTABILITY. WHEN OUR TEAM MAKES A POSITION OR TAKES A POSITION AND ASKS OR MAKES AN ASK AT THE CAPITOL, THAT'S THE CITY SPEAKING, THE CITY SPEAKING WITH STAFF COUNCIL DIRECTLY OVERSEES. THERE'S A STRAIGHT LINE OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT A CONTRACT LOBBYIST RELATIONSHIP DOESN'T OFFER IN THE SAME WAY. AND THEN I DID JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS THIS DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE TAXPAYER FUNDED LOBBYING. THAT HAS BEEN A RECURRING ISSUE AT THE LEGISLATURE AND LAST FEW SESSIONS. THOSE PROPOSALS HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN AIMED AT CONTRACT REGISTERED LOBBYISTS AND NOT AT CITIES USING THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES. SO THAT TAKES US OUT OF THAT NOISE AND THAT DISTRACTION. IT ALSO, LETS US LEAN INTO SOMETHING THAT A HIRED LOBBYIST CANNOT PROVIDE. AND THAT'S GENUINE DIRECT RELATIONSHIPS. WE HAVE HEARD FROM OUR LEGISLATORS THAT THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM US. THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF. THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS ABOUT HOW THE ISSUES THAT THE LEGISLATURE ARE IMPACTING THEM, AND NOT NECESSARILY FROM A HIRED LOBBYIST BASED IN AUSTIN. SO WITH THAT, THIS WILL BE OUR THREE PERSON LEGISLATIVE TEAM. 
          FRANK DIXON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, BRINGS A PLETHORA OF EXPERIENCE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY REALM. AND ACTUALLY FUN FACT, FRANK AND I MET IN 2017 WORKING ON BILLS IN THE CAPITOL. I WAS A STAFFER IN A REPRESENTATIVE'S OFFICE AND HE WAS THE LEGISLATIVE LIAISON FOR AUSTIN PD. AND WE WORKED ON SOME REALLY MEANINGFUL LEGISLATION RELATED TO SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE, THAT ENDED UP PASSING. AND SO, HE HAS SEVERAL SESSIONS UNDER HIS BELT, FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY REALM BEING A LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, AS A CHIEF OF POLICE AND THEN MYSELF, I CAME FROM WORKING AT THE CAPITOL FOR MORE THAN SIX YEARS, WORKED FOR 
          >> ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES WORKING MY WAY UP FROM INTERN TO CHIEF OF STAFF MOST RECENTLY, AND ALSO DID A SESSION AS LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN AUSTIN. AND THEN KENNEDY MOORE IS OUR NEWEST TEAM MEMBER. SHE'S A SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, BUT SHE HAS SOME GREAT WORKING FOR THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL LAST SESSION. AND THEN WORKING FOR A STATE REPRESENTATIVE IN NORTH TEXAS MOST RECENTLY. AND SHE WAS ALSO GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR THE TARRANT AREA FOOD BANK, WHICH REPRESENTS A HUGE AREA. SO SHE WORKED WITH A LOT OF STATE REPRESENTATIVES IN THAT WAY. SO OUR LEGISLATIVE TEAM HAS A DIVERSE BACKGROUND. WE KNOW THE BUILDING, WE KNOW PEOPLE, WE KNOW THE PROCESSES. AND SO WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD HANDS. FOR THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. OKAY. SO INSTEAD OF RELYING ON AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS NETWORK AND MANUAL TRACKING, WE'RE GOING TO CONTRACT WITH A BILL TRACKING AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS PLATFORM THAT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS SEVERAL OTHER CITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS AND HAS HAD A HUGE AMOUNT OF SUCCESS AND IMPACT IN THAT SPACE. I WON'T WALK YOU THROUGH ALL OF THESE CAPABILITIES, BUT THEY DO. THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY MODIFY AND STREAMLINE OUR PROCESSES. 
          THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MANUAL TRACKING. THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT OF PROCESSES AND DASHBOARDS IN PLACE THAT WILL HELP US OUT WITH BILL TRACKING, SMART ALERTS, ISSUE MANAGEMENT, AND THEN REPORTING AND ANALYTICS THAT WILL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT OPERATIONAL 
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CONTEXT IN PLACE, I WANT TO TURN TO THE SUBSTANCE. THE CITY'S PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THESE SLIDES IS AN ABBREVIATED VERSION. THE FULL DRAFT PROGRAM IS IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS FOR TODAY'S MEETING. AND THEN, WHAT, WHAT'S IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS IS ALSO PLAIN TEXT. SO THE INTENTION WILL BE TO EXCUSE ME. TO BRING THAT BACK ONCE WE FINALIZE, ONCE WE IMPLEMENT COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK INTO A FORMATTED, DESIGNED, POLISHED VERSION OF THAT. AND THEN THIS PROGRAM IS ALSO MEANT TO STAY HIGH LEVEL. WE'LL COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION IN THE WEEDS AND IN THE DETAILS AS BILLS ARE FILED. AND AS WE HAVE THOSE ISSUES MORE, MORE PROPERLY IDENTIFIED. SO EVERYTHING IN THIS PROGRAM SUPPORT OR OPPOSE POSITION IS ANCHORED IN FIVE GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOSTERING STRONG PARTNERSHIPS WITH STATE LEADERS, REGIONAL PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS, SUPPORTING INVESTMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ADVANCING THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF DENTON RESIDENTS. SUPPORTING ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT LOCAL GOVERNANCE AND ENSURING STRONG FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP SO WE CAN KEEP DELIVERING DEPENDABLE, HIGH VALUE SERVICES. THANKS. ANOTHER CHANGE IN OUR APPROACH THIS SESSION IS GOING TO BE TO PURSUE SOME ACTIVE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. SO THIS FIRST ONE IS FIRST RESPONDER RETIREMENT AND PROPERTY TAX BENEFITS. THIS WOULD BE LOOKING AT AND EXPLORING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO PROVIDE FULL RETIREMENT BENEFITS AND EXPANDED PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS TO FIRST RESPONDERS CATASTROPHICALLY INJURED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. WE HAVE HOUSING REFORM, AUTHORITY REFORM. SO IN THE LAST SEVERAL SESSIONS, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL BILLS FILED AND PASSED TO REFORM HOUSING AUTHORITY CHAPTERS THREE, 92 AND 303. AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE EXPANDED TO 392 FOR A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS. 
          CLARIFICATION. THIS IS RELATED TO PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT WE RECEIVE RELATED TO RELEASING RECORDS INVOLVING DECEASED SUSPECTS, VERSUS DECEASED VICTIMS. AND THEN THE QUALIFIED HOTEL PROGRAM EXTENSION. THIS WE APPLIED FOR AND WERE, WERE GRANTED IN A BILL IN 2023. IT EXPIRES AT THE END OF 2027. AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT IDENTIFIED FOR THAT. SO WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT REQUESTING AN EXTENSION FROM THE LEGISLATURE. BEYOND OUR ACTIVE PRIORITIES, STAFF WILL MONITOR LEGISLATION ACROSS THESE LEGISLATIVE PRO POLICY AREAS AND TAKE A SUPPORT OR OPPOSE POSITION. THE TRIANGLE UP MEANS SUPPORT AND TRIANGLE DOWN MEANS OPPOSE. UNDER TAXATION AND FINANCE. SUPPORT MUNICIPAL DEBT ISSUANCE AUTHORITY. THIS WOULD PRESERVE THE CITY'S ABILITY TO USE TOOLS LIKE CLOSE BONDS TO FINANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PROJECTS. OPPOSE RESTRICTIONS ON KOS AND LIMITS ON TAX AND FEE AUTHORITY. WE'VE SEEN THAT IN SEVERAL LEGISLATIVE, IMPLEMENTATIONS IN THE LAST FEW SESSIONS. UNDER COMMUNITY AND PARTNERSHIPS, WE WANT TO VALUE OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, SUPPORTING MENTAL HEALTH ACCESS, HOMELESSNESS SERVICES, HIGH SCHOOL AND HIGHER ED FUNDING AND LOCAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY, LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF ACTION WILL HAPPEN AS WELL. ETJ AUTHORITY, LOCAL CONTROL OVER LOT SIZES, DENSITY AND ADUS AND OPPOSE RESTRICTIONS ON ANNEXATION, ZONING, STRS AND RIGHTS OF WAY TRANSPORTATION SUPPORT, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDING, LOCAL PROJECT FLEXIBILITY AND AVIATION CAPITAL INVESTMENT, AND THEN UTILITIES SUPPORT TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT FUNDING, DIRECT POTABLE REUSE, DIRECT REUSE, RECYCLED WATER SYSTEM 
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AND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE CLASSIFICATION, AND OPPOSE LARGE LOAD INTERCONNECTION RESTRICTIONS ON USE. UNFUNDED MANDATES ON MOAS AND GENERAL FUND TRANSFER IMPACTS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN IN THE INTERIM THESE LAST FEW MONTHS. LEGISLATURE LOOKING AT WHAT GENERAL GENERAL TRANSFER ARE HAPPENING AND THEN CITY SERVICES SUPPORT FIRST RESPONDER DESIGNATION FOR CRITICAL EMPLOYEES. THE TEXAS AMBULANCE SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT PROGRAM, RESPIRATORY RESTORATION PARKS GRANT FUNDING AND HUMANE PET STORE REGULATION, AND THEN OPPOSE LIBRARY RESTRICTIONS, STATE LEVEL MANDATES THAT WOULD DICTATE LOCAL LIBRARY CONTENT OR OPERATIONAL DECISIONS THAT ARE BETTER HANDLED BY THE CITY AND THE LIBRARY BOARD. SO, NEXT STEPS. TODAY WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE MONTH WILL INCORPORATE THAT FEEDBACK AND REFINE THE PROGRAM, BRING IT BACK IN SEPTEMBER FOR A FOLLOW UP WORK SESSION IF NEEDED, AND FOR FORMAL ADOPTION. 
          AND THEN BILL PRE-FILING WILL BEGIN IN NOVEMBER. AND IN JANUARY, THE 90TH SESSION OPENS AND OUR TEAM WILL BE ACTIVE AT THE CAPITOL. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT BACK TO THE MAYOR 
          TO FACILITATE QUESTIONS. >> COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, KRISTI, FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I'M, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE LEGISLATURE AS WELL. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT AND AN IN-HOUSE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS TEAM IS NIGHT AND DAY. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOLKS WHO HAD, YOU KNOW, THEIR DIRECTOR COME AND TALK TO US DIRECTLY VERSUS THE LOBBYIST. I MEAN, IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN BEING ABLE TO GET THEIR BILLS PASSED AND GETTING THEIR PRIORITIES ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. I MEAN, PLANO'S GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR ANDREW FORTUNE WAS SEEN MORE IN DENTON LEGISLATIVE OFFICES THAN OUR LOBBYIST WAS, ACCORDING TO CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH STAFFERS. AND I THINK THAT GOES TO SHOW JUST HOW MUCH HE WAS WORKING VERSUS HOW MUCH OUR LOBBYISTS, BECAUSE OF HIS WORKLOAD, WAS ABLE TO WORK ON OUR PRIORITIES. SO FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT PLAN. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INCLUDING, IF WE HAVE SOME DIRECTION HERE, TWO MORE PRIORITIES I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PUSH FOR LOCAL CONTROL IN TERMS OF CANNABIS DECRIMINALIZATION, MAYBE A LOCAL ELECTION IN TERMS SUCH AS HOW WE HAVE LOCAL ELECTIONS FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AND LIQUOR. I WOULD ALSO LIKE US TO SEE IF WE COULD PUSH FOR MORE FUNDING FOR AN EDC, HAVE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS AVAILABLE SO WE CAN HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 
          CORPORATION SOMEDAY. THANK YOU. >> YES. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. >> THANK YOU. WOULD WOULD THIS AND I AND I LIKE THIS PROPOSAL. I TRULY DO WOULD THIS WOULD THIS REQUIRE LOTS OF TIME IN 
          AUSTIN AND OR LOTS OF TRAVEL? >> IT WILL CERTAINLY REQUIRE MORE TIME THAN WE HAVE SPENT IN RECENT YEARS IN AUSTIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SOMEONE IN AUSTIN DOING THAT WORK FOR US. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PREPARED FOR AND BUDGETED FOR IS A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASED TRAVEL, BOTH ON STAFF SIDE AND ON COUNCIL SIDE FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED. 
          >> AND, AND IS THE, I GUESS HOTEL STAYS AND, AND TRANSPORTATION FIGURED INTO THIS COST SAVING, IS IT STILL GOING TO BE A COST SAVING FACTOR? 
          >> YES, SIR. >> GOOD, GOOD. THANK YOU. >> YES. MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          >> JUST A FEW THINGS TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE I HAD ASKED ABOUT THAT AHEAD OF TIME AND THIS IS JUST ME. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WITH THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE SENDING DOWN THERE, THAT THERE'S WORK LIFE BALANCE. AND SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME. I KNOW YOU ALREADY HAVE SEVEN JOBS AT THE CITY RIGHT NOW. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO ADD AN EIGHTH. AND SO IF, IF, IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THEIR OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES TEMPORARILY SO THAT THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR LIVES, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE YOU SHOULD NOT BE OVERWORKED JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ON A SALARY, YOU KNOW? AND SO I JUST MAKE NOTE OF THAT AND WANT SOME ASSURANCES ON THAT AT SOME POINT, IF THAT'S OKAY. OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU HAD ASKED FOR LIKE PRIORITIES OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD LISTED. AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE ALL GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL, THANKS FOR VOICING YOUR EXPERIENCE DOWN THERE. I WOULD NOT KNOW THAT. 
          AND, AND SO THAT MAKES ME VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR. AS FAR AS PRIORITIES, I LOVE THE FOUR THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. I WOULD SAY THE VERY TOP OF THAT IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY REFORM. I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE OUR, OUR, OUR BIGGEST PRIORITY OF THOSE FOUR. AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL'S, DISCUSSION THAT HE HAD ON THE EDC AND, 
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CANNABIS DECRIMINALIZATION. I'D ADD ONE MORE TO THAT AS WELL, WHICH IRONIC BECAUSE I KNOW WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE BILLS PUSHED REGARDING, WHAT ABILITIES A MUNICIPALITY PROBABLY HAS ON AI DATA CENTERS. AND, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE NOTE AND RECEIVE INFORMATION, WHEN THOSE COME UP, BECAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'D 
          BE SIGNIFICANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. YEAH. >> AND WE WILL CERTAINLY TRACK ANYTHING THAT'S RELATED THAT WOULD IMPACT THE CITY. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SOMETHING LISTED ON OUR PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM IS MORE FOR COUNCIL TO PROVIDE DIRECTION ON WHAT 
          YOU WANT US TO SUPPORT AND OPPOSE. >> COUNCILMEMBER FERRI AND THEN 
          COUNCILMEMBER YEAH. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I LOOK FORWARD TO WRITING A BILL WITH YOU. KRISTI KNOW, I'M REALLY STOKED. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK YOU ANSWERED, BUT I WANT TO JUST ASK THEM DIRECTLY. SO WITH THIS THREE PERSON TEAM, WOULD THAT OCCASIONALLY HAVE OTHER FOLKS GO DOWN TO TESTIFY WITH YOU, DEPENDING ON THE EXPERTISE OF THE THING IN QUESTION, I'M GUESSING. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. >> RIGHT. I ALSO HEARD, BUT I WANT TO GET A YES OR NO, LIKE YOU ARE WANTING COUNSEL AT POINTS TO NOT ONLY BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT THAT ALSO 
          MEANS GOING DOWN, POTENTIALLY TESTIFYING AS WELL, CORRECT? >> YES. 
          >> HEARD. GREAT. VERY EXCITED. SIGN ME UP. I, I HAVE ALSO TESTIFIED IN THE LAST LEGISLATION FOR HOMELESS HOUSING HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COALITION. SO LOVE IT. LOVE THE PROCESS. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WITH THE TRACKING SOFTWARE. I KNOW THAT YOU SAID BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE HIGH LEVEL DATA METRICS TO COUNCIL, DOES THAT MEAN WE'LL HAVE ACCESS TO IT OR WILL BE RECEIVING REPORTS FROM IT, FROM YOU GUYS? 
          >> YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE RECEIVING REPORTS. I NEED TO WORK THROUGH WITH THEM WHAT 
          ACCESS LOOKS LIKE. BUT ABSOLUTELY AT LEAST REPORTS. >> YEAH. YEP. OKAY. SO THEN I AGREE WITH THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL WITH THE CANNABIS DECRIMINALIZATION AND EDC CREATION. I ALSO AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM STEVENS ABOUT PRIORITIZATION OF WORK LIFE BALANCE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD, THAT THE CITY TAKING UP A STANCE OF OPPOSITION AGAINST WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BILLS THAT ARE PROPOSED HARMING QUEER AND TRANS COMMUNITIES, MUSLIM COMMUNITIES, MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. I THINK THAT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INCLUSION BE OUR FIRST CORE VALUE, WE SHOULD PUT THAT INTO OUR POLICY AND STANCES. THANKS. APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL AND EXCITED TO BRING THIS IN HOUSE. OH, SORRY. LASTLY, THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WANTED TO. THEY WANTED US TO NOT HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL REPRESENTING US. THEY WANTED THE FACES THEY KNOW REPRESENTING THEM IN AUSTIN. SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS. 
          THANKS. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> WELL, NOW I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. I APPRECIATE THIS THIS PERSPECTIVE FROM SOMEBODY THAT WORKED IN AN OFFICE TO HEAR THAT AND IT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE HOW THIS GOES FOR US AND HOW, HOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO, I'M REALLY GOING TO JUST PLUS ONE. EVERY PROPOSAL THAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR, SPECIFICALLY, I KNOW THIS CAME UP IN A PAST MEETING, THE IDEA OF, WHAT IF THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY FOR VOTERS TO CONSIDER A SALES TAX VOTE TO POTENTIALLY FUND SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LIKE A CORPORATION OR SOMETHING. SO, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, TO WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR IS BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY HAS COME UP A COUPLE TIMES TODAY. 
          I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE HERE, BUT POSSIBLY TO PULL OUT BPP FROM DATA CENTERS OR SOME OTHER CATEGORY IF IT NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT WAY FROM THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE CALCULATIONS, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE WE'RE KIND OF SEEING SOME ISSUES THAT WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL OVER. SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IF WE'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM ON TRYING TO SHORE THAT UP A 
          LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE? YES. >> CHESTER. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE CREATIVITY AND TRYING TO, GET THE, THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AND DO THE BEST WE CAN. SO WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO, THE NEXT FEW YEARS. I JUST WANT TO ECHO AND, AND DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR THE SUPPORT FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY REFORM AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT INCLUDES SOME KIND OF MORATORIUM ON THE TAX EXEMPTIONS. THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE JUST PERPETUAL FOREVER. AND 
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SO I, SOME KIND OF MECHANISM WHERE IN THE CITIES ALSO RECEIVED THE REPORTS THAT ARE SHOWING THAT THEY ARE STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AFFORDABILITY, SOME KIND OF ABILITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE AS A CITY TO SAY, WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DENTON VERSUS THE ENTIRE METROPLEX AREA, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST THOUGHTS. 
          HOWEVER, THEY COME TO COME TOGETHER WITH CONSENSUS AS WELL AS WHAT WE THINK IS A BEST STRATEGY WITH OUR LEGISLATURE AND, AND OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND WHAT WE THINK WORKS BEST. I ALSO ECHO THE HOPE FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH OUR SALES TAX. THERE IS A, THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE AND MORE OF A CONSENSUS WITH CITIES THAT EVEN THOUGH THE NORTH TEXAS AREA GENERATES A LARGE PROPORTION OF THE SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, THAT THE NORTH TEXAS AREA DOES NOT GET THAT BACK, SPECIFICALLY WITH TRANSPORTATION. SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THROW OUT INCLUDING, MORE MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION IN OUR REGION. AND THEN WITH THAT SALES TAX FLEXIBILITY, THAT KIND OF ECHOES WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID AS FAR AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. IT'S ALMOST AS IF BECAUSE WE GIVE SOME OF OUR SALES TAX IN THE CITY OF DENTON TOWARDS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WE THEN ARE PUNISHED AND NOT REALLY ABLE TO. HAVE ANY LEVERS FOR FUNDING OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE WITH OTHER COMPETITIVE CITIES. SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO WITH THAT WOULD ALSO BE APPRECIATED. AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, AS FAR AS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY CONVERSATION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE RAISED THE EXEMPTION FROM, I MEAN, A REALLY KIND OF DE MINIMIS AMOUNT TO SOMETHING LIKE OVER $100,000 NOW OR SOMETHING. AND I KNOW THAT IN MY BUSINESS, WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE 100,000 IN PERSONAL PROPERTY. WE HAVE SOME YEARS OLD COMPUTERS AND SOME FURNITURE. SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH. I MEAN, UNLESS YOU ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE REALLY BIG COMPANIES, HOW MUCH THAT'S REALLY GOING TO AFFECT THE BOTTOM LINE. SO ANYWAYS, THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS AND INPUT AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> YEAH, A COUPLE COMMENTS. I WANT TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES ALSO ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK AS AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WE'RE AT OUR AT OUR SALES TAX CAP, AND I HEAR THAT FROM OTHER CITIES, WHETHER YOU ALLOCATED YOUR SALES TAX TO TRANSPORTATION OR WHETHER YOU'VE ALLOCATED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MOST PEOPLE HAVE ALLOCATED IT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC TO ONLY TO CERTAIN CITIES, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF PUT, OR IF WE COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THAT CAP EITHER STATEWIDE OR LOCAL OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT THE PARAMETERS AROUND IT TO WHERE, WHETHER IT'S A QUARTER OR A HALF OR WHATEVER, IT COULD BE ACHIEVED, WHERE IF YOU HAVE A HALF CENT TO TRANSPORTATION, YOU CAN PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS ANOTHER QUARTER CENT TO GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND VICE VERSA. ON THE OTHER END, IF YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SOME PEOPLE ARE WANTING MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT THEY'RE SORT OF HAMSTRUNG BY THAT. SO AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST, OR AT LEAST THAT I REMEMBER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AMONG LEGISLATORS, BUT I KNOW AMONG THE CITY. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. THE BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW ISSUE THAT IS GOING TO CASCADE ACROSS THE STATE AS THESE DATA CENTERS BECOME MORE, PROMINENT IN SMALLER COMMUNITIES. I THINK ON ONE OF OUR PRESENTATIONS IS SOLD THAT FORT WORTH HAD $83 MILLION WORTH OF TAX REVENUE FROM DATA CENTERS, WHICH I THINK THEY'VE GOT 3 OR 4 OR WHATEVER. WELL, THEY'RE PROPERTY TAX BASE. THEIR VALUATIONS ARE MUCH GREATER THAN OURS. SO I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THAT VALUATION. 
          IT'S A ONE TENTH OF OUR VALUATION THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. IT JUST WOULD BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION BECAUSE RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT COULD BE THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET. SO SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE. SO I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THESE KIND OF VERY UNIQUE, CIRCUMSTANCES TO GIVE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN OF COURSE, HOUSING PRIORITY, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO DO, IT'S FINE. BUT AS I TOLD THE CHAIRMAN GATES DOWN IN HOUSTON, ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO, I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER FOLKS THAT ARE, APPROVED BY HOUSING AUTHORITIES BECAUSE THEN IT GIVES US A SEAT AT THE TABLE, WHICH RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE. AND THEY CHANGE THAT. AND I THINK. 303 I THINK 
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THEY DID GIVE THE MUNICIPAL JURISDICTIONS. SO, AS I TOLD THEM WHEN I MET WITH THEM, I'LL TELL YOU, AND I CERTAINLY WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS TIME WOULD ALLOW AND AS YOUR EXPERT, AS YOU HAVE EXPERTISE COMES UP, HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER I CAN AND PASS THAT ALONG TO ANYBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MEET WITH THAT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL, THAT IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S THERE DOING IT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. BUT WHEN YOU GO TO BE ADVOCATING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUR SPECIFIC ISSUES, I THINK THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SO, I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THIS. I THINK THE LEGISLATURE AT SOME POINT IS GOING TO SAY, NO TAXPAYER FUNDING, LOBBYING ANYWAY, BUT I THINK THIS GIVES US A BETTER VOICE, IN THE FUTURE AND ALSO IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES. 
          >> JUST REAL QUICK TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CONSENSUS BECAUSE I THINK YOU NEEDED A FOURTH PERSON TO SHARE CONSENSUS WITH YOUR PUSH FOR WHAT YOU WANTED AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST A 
          FOURTH FOR YOU. YEAH. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEP. ALL 
          RIGHT. >> I THINK I GOT THE FROG OUT OF MY THROAT JUST IN TIME. 
          >> IT'S ALL RIGHT. WE SEE IT HOPPING DOWN ON THE FLOOR HERE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. NO 
          YOU'RE GOOD. >> BUT STAFF IS ALSO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND BRINGING 
          IT IN-HOUSE. IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE FUN. >> SO SO AT SOME POINT WHEN WHEN IT GETS MORE SPECIFIC, AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL, I MEAN, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR, THERE'S SOME THAT WE SUPPORT AND THERE WERE SOME THAT WE OPPOSE AND WE'LL HAVE THAT ALL OUTLINED IN, IN THAT. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MORE SPECIFICALLY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? SO YOU HAVE DIRECTION. 
          >> I HAVE DIRECTION, OKAY. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [C. ID 26-1196 Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Fiscal Year 2026-27 preliminary Capital Improvement Program. 
[Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 60 minutes]]
          >> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM D. OH, SORRY. SEE, 26-1196 RECEIVE REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 THROUGH 27. 
          PRELIMINARY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AMY KASTELIC, CHIEF STRATEGIC OFFICER HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE 2020 627 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO START TODAY BY LOOKING AT GENERAL GOVERNMENT. THE 2027 BUDGET HAS A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY $49 MILLION IN CAPITAL. WE ARE PROJECTING THE USE OF ABOUT 41 MILLION IN DEBT, INCLUDING $5.8 MILLION IN GEO BONDS, TO SUPPORT THE 2023 BOND ELECTION, WE'LL ALSO BE USING 3.2 MILLION IN OPERATING. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME USE THE WORD OPERATING CASH REVENUE. THAT'S ALL CASH. THOSE ALL MEAN THE SAME THING. SO JUST KNOW THAT WHEN I SAY THAT WE ARE CASH FUNDING THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN IMPACT FEES, FOR A TOTAL OF 5 MILLION, THERE ARE A WIDE RANGE OF PROJECTS IN THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY, INCLUDING FIRE STATION NUMBER TEN. WE HAVE VARIOUS FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS. THAT INCLUDES RENOVATIONS TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT, ADA MODIFICATIONS, TECHNOLOGY ENHANCEMENTS, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD STREET ENHANCEMENTS. WE ALSO HAVE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE AND AGAIN, PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THE 2023 BOND PROGRAM. SO THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT. WHEN LOOKING AT 2027, I WANT TO POINT OUT THE REVENUE FUNDED PROJECTS. THESE INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET RECONSTRUCTION, BIKE LANES AND THEN CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FOR PARKS, RECREATION CENTERS AND AQUATICS FACILITIES. WE'RE ALSO ANTICIPATING USING $5 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS. SO FOR THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME FAMILIAR THINGS. WE ACTUALLY COVERED THE UTILITY CAPITAL AS A PART OF THE JULY 21ST MEETING WHEN WE COVERED UTILITY BUDGETS AND RATES. SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT AGAIN TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO START BY LOOKING AT THE WATER SIP. IT INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 108 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT, NEARLY 100% OF THAT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH DEBT. THAT DOES INCLUDE WIFIA FUNDING OF NEARLY $30 MILLION, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CATEGORY FOR WATER IS WATER TREATMENT, PLANT EXPANSIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS. THAT INCLUDES THE RAY ROBERTS WATER TREATMENT PLANT, LAKE LEWISVILLE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND LAKE LEWISVILLE RAW WATER STATION. WE ALSO HAVE $20 MILLION IN LINE REPLACEMENTS. PART OF THAT IS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE LEAD AND 
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COPPER RULES, AND THEN WE HAVE A SUPPLEMENT FOR THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. THERE'S ALSO FUNDING FOR THE AUTOMATED METER READING INFRASTRUCTURE OR AM I? AND WITH THIS PARTICULAR CAPITAL PLAN, WE ARE LOOKING AT IMPACT FEES OFFSETTING APPROXIMATELY $4.2 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE. 
          HERE IS THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR WATER. AGAIN, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CATEGORY IS PLANT IMPROVEMENTS FOLLOWED BY TRANSMISSION LINES. THESE PROJECTS ARE BOTH TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN MEET THE DEMANDS OF GROWTH, AS WELL AS MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN IS THE ONGOING USE 
          OF REVENUE FOR VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, >> SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. 
          JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDE AND THE TOTAL FOR THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST FOR YEAR FIVE YEAR FORECAST IS THREE QUARTERS OF $1 BILLION, CORRECT. FOR THIS ONE FUND. DO WE KNOW? AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH DEBT ARE WE? I MEAN, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING AND THIS IS JUST ONE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE OTHER SLIDES, THREE QUARTERS OF $1 BILLION. HOW MUCH IS ROLLING OFF? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S I MEAN, WHERE DOES IT WHERE'S THE BREAKING POINT WHEN YOU'RE ADDING IN DEBT COMING IN? AND IS THERE, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S GOING OUT? BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. AND WE CAN SEE SOME OF THAT IN SOME OF THE POTENTIAL RATE INCREASES THAT WE'RE FORECASTED OUT. SO I JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FOUR COMBINED WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE WATER AND ELECTRICITY, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T ADDED IT UP. I'LL PROBABLY DO IT IN MY HEAD AS WE GO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. 
          AND THAT'S ONLY PROJECTION OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND TO UNDERSTAND, HOW IS ALL THIS GOING TO LOOK? I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT PROBABLY ON THE EIGHTH. BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF DEBT. AND IS THIS, THAT USUALLY IS IT 20 YEAR DEBT, TYPICALLY 30 YEAR. WHAT IS THE AMORTIZATION OF THESE 20 YEARS? 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. JUST NEEDED TO SAY THAT. >> I MADE. 
          >> A NOTE. >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> NEXT WE'LL LOOK AT WASTEWATER. THIS INCLUDES $148 MILLION IN PROJECTS ANTICIPATED TO BE PRIMARILY FUNDED BY DEBT, INCLUDING $44 MILLION IN WIFIA FUNDS. WE ARE ALLOCATING $3.5 MILLION IN REVENUE AND CASH TOWARDS THOSE PROJECTS, AND THEN ANTICIPATING IMPACT FEES TO OFFSET OUR DEBT SERVICE BY ABOUT $11 MILLION. MUCH LIKE WATER CIP, THIS REALLY IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS GROWTH AND ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER RECLAMATION PLANTS. THAT INCLUDES, PECAN CREEK AND CLEARWATER CREEK. WE HAVE LINE REPLACEMENTS FOR COLE RANCH AND HICKORY CREEK, AND THEN LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS FOR ROBESON WEST AND HOBSON. LOOKING AT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AGAIN, WE SEE THAT PLAN IMPROVEMENTS MAKE UP THE BULK OF THE CAPITAL PROGRAM FOR WASTEWATER. AND THEN THAT IS FOLLOWED BY LINE REPLACEMENTS. REVENUE FUNDING HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AND THE UTILITY MONITORING AND DATA ANALYTICS 
          PROJECT. >> REAL QUICK ON THAT. IS THERE A WAY TO LATER ON, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW ON THE PLANT IMPROVEMENTS, HOW MUCH OF THAT IS CONTRIBUTED TO OVERSIZE. 
          WE'RE EXPANDING OUR LINES OUT BEYOND THE CITY LIMITS FOR PROJECTED GROWTH IN THE ETJ AND ALSO IN OTHER CITIES. SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND OBVIOUSLY NOT DOWN TO THE NICKEL, BUT JUST GENERALLY HOW MUCH OF ALL OF THIS IS. AND THE SAME WITH WATER, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE EXTENDING WATER LINES. HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO SORT OF INHERENT ORGANIC GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS? AND THEN AS WE'RE FEEDING SOME OF THESE BIG NPCS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS OR, OVERSIZING OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS TO HANDLE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT I JUST WANT TO TRY TO HAVE A HANDLE ON WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE SPENDING OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY FOR SERVICES OUT TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY? AND WHAT IS IT REQUIRED FOR SERVICES INSIDE THE CITY? DON'T NEED IT NOW, BUT MAYBE AT SOME POINT, JUST SOME KIND OF GENERAL BREAKDOWN OF THAT. OKAY. THANK 
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          YOU. >> NEXT WE'LL LOOK AT DRAINAGE, WHICH INCLUDES $4 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, ALL OF WHICH WILL BE FUNDED WITH CASH. ALL RIGHT. SO HERE IS THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR DRAINAGE. WE ARE PROPOSING AGAIN TO USE REVENUE FUNDING TO FUND THE ENTIRE PROGRAM IN 2027. BUT GOING FORWARD, THERE WILL BE A MIX OF BOTH REVENUE AND DEBT FUNDED PROJECTS. YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM THE 21ST THAT WE ARE PROPOSING A 5% RATE INCREASE FOR DRAINAGE, AND THAT WILL BETTER ENABLE THIS FUND TO CASH PAY FOR PROJECTS. 
          >> OH, SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER. >> AMY, I NOTICED ON THIS SLIDE THAT THE REVENUE FUNDED ACTUALLY GOES DOWN OVER TIME. IS THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE MORE ALLOCATING MORE OF THE REVENUES 
          TOWARDS DEBT, IS THAT THE CAUSE OF THAT? >> SO THE 4 MILLION HAS BUILT UP OVER TIME. WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND USING IT NOW. AND THEN WE'LL BUILD UP 
          AGAIN GOING FORWARD. >> AND THIS DOES THIS ASSUME THE PROPOSED DRAINAGE FEES? IT DOES. OKAY. AND HOW DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD HOW MUCH THOSE DRAINAGE FEES ARE 
          ANTICIPATED TO BRING IN EVERY YEAR? >> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO. 
          >> LOOK SORRY. >> I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          >> IS IT ONE OF THESE LIKE THE 2650 OR THE 500 OR ANY OF THOSE? >> I WISH I HAD THEIR PROFORMA 
          IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. >> IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN FOLLOW UP LATER. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I 
          HAD. >> APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> THEN NEXT WE'LL LOOK AT SOLID WASTE. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 12 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR SOLID WASTE. THAT INCLUDES AN ANTICIPATED DEBT ISSUANCE OF $5.3 MILLION, WITH THE REMAINDER COMING FROM CASH. THERE ARE FUNDS FOR THE TRANSFER STATION AND FOR, THE PURCHASE OF NEW AND REPLACEMENT VEHICLES. HERE IS A LOOK AT THAT FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. 
          YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN 2027, THERE'S, WE HAVE 1.4 FOR BUILDING CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS FOR THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING OF THE TRANSFER STATION. THAT TRANSFER STATION IS GOING TO BE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, AND IT WILL BE USED TO CONSOLIDATE WASTE AND REDUCE LONG HAUL TRIPS. BY DOING SO, WE'RE GOING TO BE CUTTING COSTS AND IMPROVING OUR OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES. YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THAT THIS PLAN INCLUDES THE ONGOING CASH FUNDING OF VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS. AND SORRY, I DID NOT MENTION IN 2029. THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRANSFER STATION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? OKAY, SO FINALLY WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE ELECTRIC UTILITY. IT INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 68 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE ARE PROJECTING A DEBT ISSUANCE OF ROUGHLY $60 MILLION, THE USE OF 3.5 MILLION FROM OPERATING, AND THEN 5 MILLION IN DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS FROM TEX DOT AND TMPA, THIS CIP INCLUDES FUNDING FOR TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS FUNDS FOR THE CAMPUS FENCING AND PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS. HERE IS A LOOK AT THEIR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. IT IS FAIRLY WELL DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES YOU SEE HERE, WITH MOST FUNDING GOING TO DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMERS, METERING OPERATIONS, TRANSMISSION LINES, AND THEN NEW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS. 
          >> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IN A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION WE TALKED ABOUT DATA CENTERS. SO, I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I'M ASSUMING BUILT INTO THESE COSTS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS SUCH THAT THE DATA CENTER WE HAVE REQUIRES THEM TO PAY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THEM. SO I'M JUST IN A DIFFERENT SAME MEMO WITH ALL THE OTHER QUESTIONS. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS, IF ANY, IS A REQUIREMENT TO BE SPENT FOR, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE 
          ELECTRICITY TO THE, TO THE TWO DATA CENTERS? >> OKAY. 
          >> THEN YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT OF ME, A LOT OF EVERYONE. YES. AT THE WORKSHOP ON AUGUST THE 8TH, WE'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING ON THE 18TH ON ANY REMAINING ITEMS FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WILL ALSO BE BRINGING YOU, RATES AND FEES. SEPTEMBER 15TH IS THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE, 
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          PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 22ND. >> YES. COUNCILMEMBER RUMOHR. 
          >> THANK YOU. I THINK IT WAS 2021 OR SO. OUR CFO AT THE TIME WAS SHOWING, THE ANTICIPATED NEEDS TO REPLACE STREETS OVER THE NEXT, I THINK IT WAS FIVE YEAR CHUNKS. SO MAYBE THE NEXT 15, 20 YEARS. AND IT WAS THREE, 400 MILLION OVER THAT TIME. I THINK IN 2019, WE FUNDED, YOU KNOW, 70 MILLION OF THAT WITH THE, WITH THE BOND PACKAGE THEN. AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THOSE NUMBERS SINCE THEN. SO I'M CURIOUS IF WE STILL HAVE, A LIST OF UNFUNDED STREETS THAT HAVE REACHED END OF LIFE, LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, HOW MUCH MONEY, HOW MUCH CAPITAL DO WE NEED TO DO THAT IF WE HAVE THAT FOR DRAINAGE? I'M CURIOUS IF WE HAVE THOSE LISTS OF BASICALLY THINGS THAT WE, AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR, BUT THAT HONESTLY NEED REPLACED? I'M KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE THAT AT SOME POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AVAILABLE. I'D LOVE TO SEE IT ON SATURDAY IF IT'S NOT JUST WHENEVER WE CAN GET THAT. BUT I'D BE CURIOUS BECAUSE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT FORECASTS HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE MONEY FOR. 
          SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT WE DON'T BASICALLY WHAT WHAT IS LACKING FUNDING THAT THAT'S REACHED END 
          OF LIFE EFFECTIVELY. >> WE DO HAVE THOSE LISTS AND WE CAN PROVIDE THEM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. SO YOU DON'T, YOU WON'T SEE, A PROPOSAL FOR ADDITIONAL STREETS RIGHT NOW. AS WE WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS AND IMPLEMENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT WE 
          HAVE THE LIST, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THEM. >> JUST BROAD NUMBERS AT LEAST I'M CURIOUS, LIKE MY, YOU KNOW, MILEAGE, IF THAT'S AN EASY NUMBER WE HAVE. AND THEN THE 
          AMOUNT THAT THAT WOULD COST TO DO WELL. >> AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE IS AS WE'RE COMPLETING THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, THAT MONEY, WE WERE TRANSFERRING MONEY FROM STREET OPERATIONS TO SUPPLEMENT THE BOND PROGRAM. AND SO THAT MONEY IS GOING TO STAY IN STREETS NOW. AND SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT ROUGHLY $5 MILLION A YEAR FOR STREET 
          MAINTENANCE NOW. OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. 
          COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. >> WAY BACK ON SLIDE FOUR, THERE'S A MENTION OF LEAD AND COPPER LINE REPLACEMENT. AND I ASKED ONCE UPON A TIME IF THERE WAS ANY HELP AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS THAT HAD THAT. AND I DON'T RECALL THAT I GOT AN PERHAPS I GOT AN ANSWER AND I 
          FORGOT IT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. STEPHEN GUAY, GENERAL MANAGER, WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS. CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT WILL HELP THE CUSTOMERS DO THE LEAD AND COPPER LINE SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT. WE DID HEAR THIS MORNING THERE WAS SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE STATE THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO MORE FROM A GRANT. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING THAT PROGRAM THAT WILL HELP THE CITIZEN REPLACE THEIR SIDE OF THE SERVICE CONNECTION. BUT YOU MAY RECALL IN THAT IN THAT MEETING, I EXPLAINED THAT WE ONLY HAVE WE HAVE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF SERVICE LINES OUT OF THE 48,000 SERVICE CONNECTIONS, WE HAVE ROUGHLY THREE SERVICE LINES ON THE CITY SIDE THAT ARE LED, AND WE HAVE ROUGHLY 25 TO 30 THAT ARE, ARE A, WHAT WE CALL GALVANIZED REQUIRING REPLACEMENT. AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE WERE UNCERTAIN IF LEAD WAS EVER, EVER CONNECTED TO THEM. SO THOSE ARE PART OF THE PROGRAM. AND WE'LL BE 
          LOOKING, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT REPLACING THOSE. >> WITH, WITH SUCH A SMALL NUMBER, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR, FOR, FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT TO CONTACT THOSE HOMEOWNERS AND 
          MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE STATE? >> IT'S PART OF OUR IT'S PART OF THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE NOTIFY THEM THAT THEY HAVE A LEAD SERVICE. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND WE'VE NOTIFIED EVERYONE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. WE HAD TO DO AN INVENTORY. SO WE HAD TO IDENTIFY ALL THE SERVICE LINES IN OUR IN OUR SYSTEM THAT MET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA. AND THEN WE HAD TO NOTIFY THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT THEY HAD A LINE THAT MET THAT CRITERIA AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO BEST PROTECT THEMSELVES. AND WE ALSO DO WHAT WE CALL LEAD AND COPPER SAMPLING EVERY WELL, NOW IT'S EVERY YEAR, TO WHERE WE PULL SAMPLES FROM THOSE SERVICES AND WE SEND THEM OFF TO A LAB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE 
          ANY DETECTABLE OR ANY, ANY LEVELS THAT EXCEED A THRESHOLD. >> CAN THOSE, CAN THOSE, THOSE 
          PEOPLE BE NOTIFIED OF HOW, HOW TO POSSIBLY ACCESS STATE FUNDS? >> OH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. 
          >> THANK YOU. YEAH. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? 
          >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO POWER THROUGH THIS NEXT AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WE TAKE 
          [D. ID 26-0628 Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for:
1)	Quakertown Memorial Fund
      [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]
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A BREAK JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO, I THINK, NOT BE 30 MINUTES, BUT OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEM D, WHICH IS ID 26-0628. RECEIVE REPORT DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON PENDING CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE FOR QUAKERTOWN 
          MEMORIAL FUND. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M JUSTIN STACKHOUSE, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER HERE TO PRESENT THE TWO MINUTE PITCH ITEMS. AS A REMINDER ON THE PROCESS, UP TO SEVEN REQUESTS WILL BE REVIEWED PER MEETING. ONE COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF WILL INTRODUCE EACH REQUEST REQUESTING. COUNCIL MEMBER WILL HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES TO DESCRIBE JUSTIFY THE REQUEST. REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF ONE MINUTE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND INDICATE THEIR SUPPORT, FOR THE USE OF CITY STAFF TIME, CITY STAFF, TIME TO RESPOND TO THE REQUEST. STAFF WILL RESPOND TO ALL REQUESTS WHERE A CONSENSUS OF AT LEAST FOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND A CONSENSUS OF SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REQUIRED FOR THE RESOLUTION ORDINANCE TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE COUNCIL AGENDA PRIOR TO A WORK SESSION. ON THE REQUEST, THE AGENDA COMMITTEE WILL ASSIST IN SCHEDULING ITEMS THAT RECEIVE CONSENSUS BASED ON READINESS OF THE ITEM, AS WELL AS WORK SESSION AVAILABILITY AND AS GUIDELINES FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHENEVER YOU DO GIVE DIRECTION ON A PROPOSED ITEM, YOU CAN GIVE A PRIORITY RATING OF HIGH, MODERATE OR LOW. WITH THAT, THE TWO MINUTE PITCH WE HAVE TODAY IS ON THE TOPIC OF THE QUAKERTOWN MEMORIAL FUND. 
          AND TO TAKE IT FROM THERE. >> ALL RIGHT. LET ME GET MY CLOCK UP. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER 
          RUMOHR, YOU MAY BEGIN. >> APPRECIATE IT. TODAY I AM PITCHING THE CREATION OR REALLY DISCUSSION ABOUT POTENTIAL CREATION OF A QUAKERTOWN MEMORIAL FUND. THE INTENT OF THIS FUND WOULD BE TO HELP FUND THE DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION, AND EVENTUAL MAINTENANCE OF MEMORIAL ELEMENTS IN QUAKERTOWN PARK THAT HONOR THE. THE HISTORY AND THE FORMER RESIDENTS OF QUAKERTOWN AS THE DESIGN DOWNTOWN DENTON MASTER PLAN HAS OUTLINED. MY PROPOSAL IS. I BELIEVE THAT STAFF AS PART OF OUR LEASE AGREEMENT AND THAT WAS ADOPTED IN MAY 5TH, THAT WE WILL PART OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION IS ALREADY GOING TO BE ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT LEASE REVENUE. SO MY PITCH IS ALSO TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO GET A LITTLE MORE REVENUE IN THAT FUND. BASICALLY BY, LET'S SAY THAT THE CITY, DURING ONE OF ITS IN-KIND USE DAYS OF THE BUILDING, HOSTED AN EVENT THAT LET'S SAY WAS TICKETED, THAT ANY PROFITS THE CITY GETS FROM THAT EVENT WOULD GO INTO THIS FUND. THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT THE CITY WOULD CHARGE ANYONE ELSE TO USE THE BUILDING. WE DON'T WANT IT TO COMPETE WITH THE REVENUES OF THE BUILDING. 
          OTHERWISE THAT HELPS MAINTAIN THE BUILDING. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO DO HERE. I'M OPEN TO NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT, WHAT REVENUE EXACTLY WOULD GO INTO IT. SO I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE. BUT MOSTLY THIS IS A PITCH TO DISCUSS THIS, TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER REVENUE SOURCE AND SET THAT MONEY ASIDE TO GO TOWARDS MEMORIAL ELEMENTS IN QUAKERTOWN PARK. AND YOU DON'T NEED TO GIVE ME A PRIORITY. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, 
          DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS OR NOT? THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          >> YES. COUNCIL. VILLARREAL. >> GREAT IDEA. MODERATE PRIORITY. 
          >> OKAY. YES, COUNCILMEMBER. >> YEAH. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I GOT TO GO TO ONE OF THE LISTENING SESSIONS WHERE YOU HAD TO LEAVE SO THAT I COULD COME IN. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT AND I SUPPORT IT MODERATE AS WELL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT TIME IS WANTED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION NOT ONLY HERE BUT IN COMMUNITY. 
          >> OKAY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. >> A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WOULD, I WOULD HATE THE THOUGHT OF CITY REVENUE COMPETING WITH THE WOMEN'S CLUB REVENUE. I JUST, I JUST THAT THAT CAN'T WORK. I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT, WHAT SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO GOING TO REQUIRE, BUT, BUT THAT'S UNWORKABLE IN MY MIND. I WOULD ALSO AT LEAST RHETORICALLY ASK HOW MANY, MEMORIALS ARE CURRENTLY IN QUAKERTOWN PARK TO, TO THIS, TO THE, I KNOW OF ONE NEAR THE, NEAR THE QUAKERTOWN PARK CIVIC CENTER. SO THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME. I WOULD GIVE 
          THIS LOW PRIORITY. >> YES. COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM EXCUSE ME. 
          >> I GUESS WE HAVE CONSENSUS NOW, BUT BUT I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PITCH. >> YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER, >> I APPRECIATE THE SENSITIVITY THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR HAS TO THE DIFFICULTIES OF A NON PROFIT MAINTAINING 100 YEAR OLD 
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BUILDING, JUST ON RENTALS. AND, AND WITH THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING IT THAT WAY. I'M IN 
          FAVOR OF THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. YEAH. 
          >> I. >> MEAN, IT'S CONVERSATION. I PRESUME A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION WILL HAPPEN DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO, THAT MIGHT RESOLVE SOME OF THAT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS, AS ARE, AND THEN AGENDA COMMITTEE AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD 
          AND CALL IT INTO CLOSED SESSION AND THEN WE'LL, DO YOU HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          [1. Closed Meeting:]
          >> OKAY. THE CITY WILL NOW CONVENE, WILL NOW AT 3:52 P.M. CONVENE IN A CLOSED MEETING TO LIBERATE THE CLOSED MEETING. ITEMS SET FORTH ON THE AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM A CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SECTION 551.071. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE 
          [AFTER DETERMINING THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DENTON CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 215 E. MCKINNEY STREET, DENTON, TEXAS AT WHICH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED:]
WELCOME, EVERS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 4TH, 2026. 
          THE TIME IS 630. WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED THROUGH OUR AGENDA. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE U.S. AND TEXAS FLAG. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE ABLE. 
          >> PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. >> TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE 
          UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> OUR NEXT ITEM IS COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS. 
          [2. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS]
OKAY. IS THIS ON? YEAH, THE FIRST ONE IS NEW DRIVER SAFETY WEEK. IS THERE ANYONE HERE REPRESENTING NEW DRIVER SAFETY WEEK? THAT MEANS WE'RE ALL GOOD DRIVERS. SO I'LL I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL GO. I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ IT. GREETINGS. WHEREAS LEARNING TO DRIVE IS A MAJOR MILESTONE FOR INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES, AND RESEARCH SHOWS THAT NEWLY LICENSED DRIVERS ARE AT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RISK OF CRASHES DURING THEIR FIRST MONTHS ON THE ROAD. AND WHEREAS MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES REMAIN A LEADING CAUSE OF INJURY AND DEATH, PARTICULARLY AMONG YOUNG DRIVERS, WHILE INEXPERIENCED DISTRACTION AND LACK OF TRAINING AFFECT NEW DRIVERS OF ALL AGES. WHEREAS, DISTRACTED DRIVING, SPEEDING AND IMPAIRED DRIVING CONTINUE TO BE LEADING CAUSES OF CRASHES AND EDUCATION AND EARLY SAFE DRIVING HABITS CAN GREATLY REDUCE THOSE RISKS. 
          NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHRIS WATSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE AND PROCLAIM AUGUST THE 23RD THROUGH AUGUST THE 29TH OF 2026, AS NEW DRIVER SAFETY WEEK IN THE CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT AND PROMOTE SAFE DRIVING HABITS AMONG NEW DRIVERS OF ALL AGES, HELPING TO CREATE SAFER ROADWAYS FOR EVERYONE. SO I THINK WE COULD ALL TAKE THAT ADVICE AS WELL. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR AGE IS JUST TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE SAFELY. AND, ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ONE IS GUN SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH. ANYONE HERE FOR GUN SAFE? OKAY. HELLO. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND JUST 
          TELL US WHAT WE'RE PROCLAIMING. >> I AM HARLEY RODEN. I'M THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR FOR THE AIM FOR SAFETY PROGRAM AT COOK CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, THE CENTER FOR COMMUNITY HEALTH. AND BASICALLY, WE'RE PROCLAIMING THAT AUGUST IS GUN SAFETY AWARENESS WEEK DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF FIREARM RELATED INJURIES THAT WE SEE COME THROUGH OUR E.R. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WHEREAS UNSECURED FIREARMS POSE A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY RISK, PARTICULARLY TO CHILDREN, AND WHEN FIREARMS ARE NOT STORED SAFELY AND SECURELY AND ARE ACCESSIBLE TO UNSUPERVISED MINORS, THE RISK OF INJURY OR DEATH INCREASES SUBSTANTIALLY. AND WHEREAS IN THE UNITED STATES, APPROXIMATELY 350 CHILDREN GAIN ACCESS TO A LOADED FIREARM EACH YEAR AND UNINTENTIONALLY SHOOT THEMSELVES OR ANOTHER PERSON. AND BETWEEN 2024 AND 2026, COOK CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL TREATED 121 FIREARM RELATED INJURIES, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH WERE UNINTENTIONAL AND OCCURRED IN THE HOME AND PROVIDING COMMUNITIES WITH EDUCATION, RESOURCES AND SUPPORT TO PRACTICE RESPONSIBLE FIREARM HANDLING AND SECURE STORAGE IS A MEANINGFUL AND ACTIONABLE STEP TOWARDS CREATING SAFETY, SAFER HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS, AND COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, COUNTY AND STATE. NOW. THEREFORE, I, CHRIS WATTS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND PROCLAIM AUGUST OF 2026 AS GUN SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH IN THE 
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CITY OF DENTON AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE FIREARM STORAGE AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION TO HELP PREVENT FIREARM RELATED INJURIES AND DEATH AMONG CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. 
          >> THIS. >> GOING TO MAKE ME LOOK FAT, RIGHT? MAKE ME LOOK SKINNY. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. >> THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU BET. 
          >> IF THERE'S AN OPEN SPOT ON THE SPEAKERS. AND THEN THESE ARE TWO CONSENT ITEMS THAT GOT. 
          >> OKAY. SO THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO THESE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE 
          [3. PRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC]
AGENDA IS PRESENTATION FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO THIS IS HERE. THIS IS HERE, THIS IS THIS OKAY? GREAT. OKAY. OUR FIRST SPEAKER, IF WE COULD HAVE THE REVIEW OF PROCEDURES FOR ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE. 
          >> THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE, INCLUDING A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. THESE RULES WERE ENACTED TO PROMOTE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND TO PRESERVE DECORUM. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE A SCHEDULED REPORT AND FOUR MINUTES TO GIVE AN OPEN MIC REPORT. A BELL WILL RING WHEN TIME HAS EXPIRED. IF THE REMARKS ARE NOT CONCLUDED BY THAT TIME, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ASKED TO STOP SPEAKING. IF THE SPEAKER DOES NOT CEASE AND A SECOND REQUEST IS MADE, THE MAYOR MAY REQUEST TO HAVE THE SPEAKER REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. SPEAKERS SHOULD NOT APPROACH THE DAIS. IF A SPEAKER HAS MATERIALS FOR THE COUNCIL, PLEASE NOTIFY THE CITY SECRETARY IN ADVANCE FOR SCHEDULED REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY INITIATE DISCUSSION OR ASK QUESTIONS FOR NONSCHEDULED OPEN MIC REPORTS. THE COUNCIL MAY LISTEN, HOWEVER, BECAUSE NO NOTICE OF THE SUBJECT OF THE OPEN MIC REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR DECISION BY THE COUNCIL ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS. AS A RESULT, THE COUNCIL MAY ONLY PROCEED AS FOLLOWS. ON NONSCHEDULED ITEMS PROPOSED TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACTUAL POLICY OR A RECITATION OF EXISTING POLICY. SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO DIRECT ALL REMARKS AND QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ABUSIVE, PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS. ANYONE WHO VIOLATES THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE MAY BE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. COPIES OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY 
          SECRETARY. >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER, AGENDA ITEM ID 26-1067, IS PAT SMITH. 
          REGARDING AN UPDATE ON SERVED. IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I'M PAT SMITH, 1417 CAMBRIDGE LANE. I'M THE CEO OF SERVED IN. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE LAST GAVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON SERVED IN. AND 2526 PROVED TO BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT YEAR AND SERVED IN GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. IT'S AN INFLECTION POINT THAT I WANTED TO JUST UPDATE YOU ON, AND I WANT TO FIRST INTRODUCE, MY LEADERSHIP, SIR. MR. STEVE EGGER, CEO OF MEDICAL CITY DENTAL, HERE WITH ME. AND THEN OUR PAST BOARD CHAIR, MISS CHERYL ALDRIDGE, AND HER OTHER HALF. I WON'T CALL THEM BETTER. 
          HALF, OTHER HALF. RON ALDRIDGE, DEAR FRIEND AND OUR FIRST PARTNER AT SERVE DENT WAS RON. 
          SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOU, RON. SO THIS IS THE NEXT CHAPTER AND IT STARTS WITH YOU ALL. IT STARTS WITH OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS MADE, SERVED AND POSSIBLE AND IS OUR POWER EVERY 
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DAY. LAST YEAR IN MAY OF 2025, WE EXPERIENCED A $525,000 LOSS IN REVENUE DUE TO FEDERAL FUNDING CUTS AND DELAY CONSULTING CONTRACTS. THAT WAS, HUGE IN OUR, ABILITY TO OPERATE. 
          AND WE HAD TO CLOSE OUR LOCATION AND SERVE LOUISVILLE. THAT WAS A VERY AMICABLE PROCESS WITH THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAD TO REDUCE OUR STAFFING FROM NINE FTES TO 2.5 FTES. THAT WAS A VERY HARD DECISION. WE BOOSTED OUR REMAINING STAFF THROUGH THE WITH PRODUCTIVITY USING AI, AND HAVE BECOME VERY WELL SCHOOLED IN THAT. WE RESTRUCTURED OUR DEBT AND WE RAISED $178,000 THROUGH NEW DONORS, EVENTS AND PROGRAMS, AND WE IMPLEMENTED SERVE DENTON 2.0. WHAT IS THAT? THAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION. SO IF YOU KNOW ABOUT TOYOTA, WHEN THEY HIT A CRISIS, THEY JUST GO DEEPER AND WIDER INTO THEIR, TOYOTA PRODUCTION SYSTEM. AND WE ARE NOW IN YEAR SIX OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH TOYOTA. AND WE USE THE TPS SYSTEM TO HELP US IMPROVE THE PRODUCTIVITY OF THE STAFF IN OUR MATERIAL IN REALLY PROFOUND WAYS THAT HELPED US REDUCE OUR OPERATING COSTS AND IMPROVE QUALITY. AND JUST THROUGH THE RELENTLESS ELIMINATION OF WASTE. AND WE NOW TEACH TPS WITH TOYOTA AT SERVED TWICE A YEAR BECAUSE OF THIS, TOYOTA HAS NOW RECOGNIZED US AS AN OFFICIAL SHOWCASE ORGANIZATION. IT'S A NATIONAL RECOGNITION WHERE THEY BRING IN NON-PROFITS, FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES TO SEE HOW TPS WORKS IN A NON MANUFACTURING CONTEXT AND WHERE THEIR PREMIER LOCATION TO DO THAT SHORT STORY IS, AS WE ENDED 2025 WITH $102,000 NET INCOME AND 52 DAYS CASH ON HAND. THEN IN THIS PAST FEBRUARY, WE EXITED FROM OUR NEW MARKET TAX CREDIT FINANCING, $6.5 MILLION WAS FORGIVEN. THIS IS AN INVESTMENT U.S. BANK AND MANY DONORS MADE INTO OUR COMMUNITY THAT, HAVE REALLY ALLOWED SERVE DUNN TO BECOME WHAT IT IS TODAY. MY HOPE IS THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME WE HAVE A NEW MARKET TAX CREDIT PROJECT IN THE CITY OF DENTON. MOST OF DOWNTOWN DENTON IS ELIGIBLE, AND I REALLY HOPE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO YOU IN THE FUTURE AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT MORE ON A WIDESPREAD BASIS. AND THE LAST POINT IS, AS WE REFINANCE OUR REMAINING $2.45 MILLION IN DEBT, WITH POINT BANK AND WE'RE GIVES US A REALLY CLEAR GLIDE SLOPE FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS. AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR POINT BANK WORKING WITH US. AND SO AS WELL, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HELPED US WITH THAT AS WELL, WE HAVE THREE COMPLIMENTARY PROGRAMS IN OUR NEXT CHAPTER. FIRST IS THE CENTER ITSELF WITH OUR PARTNERS, WHICH ARE TENANTS AND MEMBERS ARE NON-PROFITS THAT, HAVE ACCESS TO THE SPACE. WE'RE NOW CONSULTING WITH THE CITY OF PLANO, HELPING THEM TO CREATE SERVE PLANO AS WELL AS THE CITY OF GARLAND AND SERVE GARLAND. AND WE'RE UNDER PROCUREMENT WITH THE CITY OF PLANO TO FINALIZE THE NEXT PHASE CONTRACT. AND I KNOW I'M ALMOST OUT OF TIME HERE. AND THEN OUR EDUCATION, WE JUST TAUGHT SERVANT LEADERSHIP WITH THE CITY HR DEPARTMENT AND ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT. SO LOTS OF EVENTS IN THERE, 24 CUSTOMERS, LOTS OF EVENTS COMING UP IN YOUR HANDOUT. 
          WE'LL BE AT WAKE UP WEDNESDAY TOMORROW AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING MORE IN THE CITY OF DENTON, AND CONTINUE TO BE COMMUNITY POWERED AND COMMUNITY BUILT. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR PAT? THANK YOU PAT. APPRECIATE WHAT ALL YOU ALL DO FOR, FOR FOR DENTON. THANK YOU. NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS B IS ID 26-1179. TRACY DUCKWORTH REGARDING HOMELESSNESS. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR. EVERYONE WITHIN THE SOUND OF MY VOICE. PARDON ME. I'M VERY FLUSTERED. IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT I WROTE HERE. WE, I ATTENDED A, A PRESENTATION, A MEETING AT UNITED WAY A WEEK OR SO AGO AND IT WAS CALLED HOMELESSNESS 101. AND, IT WAS JUST THAT IT WAS LIKE TELLING, TELLING WHAT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS TELLING, TALKING ABOUT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, TALKING ABOUT RAPID REHOUSING, COORDINATED ENTRY, AND WHATNOT AND WHAT THAT IS. AND I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS 
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LIKE WHO'S EVEN DOING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ANYMORE? GIVING GRACE HAS STOPPED DOING THAT AND MOVED ON TO FAMILIES. THEY STOPPED DOING STREET OUTREACH A LONG TIME AGO. WHAT DOES THE UNITED WAY DO? AND, THE, THE MAN HOSTING THE MEETING SAID, THAT UNITED WAY REGULARLY MEETS WITH THE CASE MANAGERS FROM THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THEM, DO BETTER. AND, THE GUY THAT WAS THERE FROM THE, FROM OUR DAILY BREAD, HE LAUGHED AND HE SAID WE COULD ALWAYS USE MORE MONEY. THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO LEAVE. BECAUSE WHO NEEDS MORE MONEY? I DO, I DO THIS ON FOOT WITH NO CAR NIGHT AND DAY OUT OF MY HOUSE. I HAVE AN OPERATING BUDGET OF ZERO. I'M COMPLETELY COMMUNITY SUPPORTED. 
          THANK YOU. COMMUNITY. I WAS RETALIATED SO BADLY FOR COMING HERE AND I KNOW IT WAS NOT Y'ALL. IT WAS PREVIOUS COUNCIL, BUT IT WAS STILL IN THIS ROOM. I CAME TO COUNCIL FOR HELP. I WAS RETALIATED AGAINST SO HARD THAT I VOLUNTARILY EXITED THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM WITH GIVING GRACE. AND THEN THE AUDIT REPORT BACKED UP EVERYTHING THAT I HAD SAID. I STRUGGLE FOR FOR THE PAST YEAR, I'VE STRUGGLED TO REMAIN INDOORS. I'M ON A FIXED INCOME AND I DO THIS WITH NOTHING. YOU KNOW, THE PART OF THE, THE CONTINUUM OF CARE THAT IS NEVER TALKED ABOUT. IT'S ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THE MONEY SIDE OF IT, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT PEOPLE AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING HAVE RIGHTS. THERE ARE RULES THAT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED. 
          THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE. AND NOBODY HAS EVER EDUCATED ON THAT. AND SO I'M DOING THAT. I'M MAKING, UPDATED RESOURCES FOR THE HOMELESS AND EDUCATING THEM ON WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE UNDER PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE ILLEGALLY EXITED FROM THE PROGRAM OR VIOLATED IN AN ILLEGAL MANNER. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENED TO THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE. NOBODY INFORMS THEM. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY ANYMORE. THIS IS MY 16TH TIME BEING HERE. AND, THE ONLY CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HAVE GOTTEN WORSE, HAVE MADE THINGS WORSE. I FILL IN GAPS AND THEY'RE JUST GETTING MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON AND WHAT'S REALLY THE PROBLEM. LIKE THE FIRST PAGE OF THE AUDIT REPORT SAYS THAT THE, OUR DAILY BREAD SHELTER HAS CREATED AND IMPLEMENTED A PUNITIVE PUNISHMENT SYSTEM THAT LIKELY BARS MORE PEOPLE FROM RECEIVING SERVICES. ONE OF MY FRIENDS WAS RECENTLY SUSPENDED FOR SHARING A BAG OF CHIPS WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SHARE FOOD. MEANWHILE, STAFF IS TAKING HOME DONATIONS. LIKE IT'S THE THING 
          TO DO. AND, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY OR DO ANYMORE. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM THREE C I'D 26-1209 AND A TAOS REGARDING MASS SURVEILLANCE AND A LPR CONTRACTS THE CITY SLASH POLICE HAVE. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN. 
          >> I'M ANNA. I'M A VICTIM OF STALKING. AND LIKE A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I WANT FLOCK MASS SURVEILLANCE TAKEN DOWN AND BANNED. THERE ARE CURRENTLY OVER 60 FLOCK CAMERAS ACROSS DENTON AND OVER 50 OTHER UNDISCLOSED CAMERAS COLLECTING THE SAME DATA. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PRIVATE SMARTPHONE AND MASS SURVEILLANCE IS HOW EASY IT IS FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO ACCESS THE DATA AND USE IT AGAINST YOU, OR FOR CITIZENS TO ACCESS IT WITHOUT WARRANTS OR PERMISSION. YOU CAN OPT OUT OF HAVING A SMARTPHONE, BUT YOU CANNOT OPT OUT OF FLOCK AND MASS SURVEILLANCE. I'VE READ YOUR CONTRACT FLOCKS, PATENTS AND THEIR NEW CONTRACTS, AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THOSE OF US AGAINST FLOCK ARE AGAINST MASS SURVEILLANCE OF INNOCENT CITIZENS BUILT BY PRIVATE BILLIONAIRE COMPANIES AND INVESTORS WHO HAVE STATED POLITICAL AND PERSONAL AGENDAS AND A STRONG HISTORY OF DECEPTION. THERE HAVE BEEN NO INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS PROVING THAT THESE CAMERAS HAVE DECREASED CRIME IN ANY SIGNIFICANT WAY. THE ACLU HAS REPORTED THAT FLOCK HAS BEEN CAUGHT LYING TO CITY COUNCILS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. FLOCK HAS BEEN USED FOR STALKING AND INTIMIDATION AND TO ACCUSE CITIZENS OF CRIMES THEY DID NOT COMMIT. IN ROSEVILLE, CALIFORNIA, FLOCK MUST READ LICENSE PLATES 71% OF THE TIME. 91 CONTRACTS IN 28 STATES HAVE BEEN CANCELED THUS FAR. SIMILAR TEXTS, SUCH AS AXON AND MOTOROLA CAMERAS, ARE JUST AS 
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BAD AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AFTER CANCELLATION. FLOCKS PATENTS STATE THAT THEY ARE COLLECTING DATA ON CARS AND PEDESTRIANS, AND TRANSMIT THAT DATA TO A PRIVATE CORPORATE CLOUD SEPARATE FROM LOCAL POLICE CLOUDS, WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE BY MULTIPLE STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING CITIES AND POLICE FORCES WHEN THEY CONVINCE YOU TO SIGN A CONTRACT. DPD HAS A PORTAL WHERE YOU HOLD DATA FOR 30 DAYS, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OF FLOCKS. CLOUD DATABASE, AND WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC RECORD RIGHTS. GIVEN THAT INEVITABLY ALL THAT DATA GOES TO THEIR SEPARATE SERVER FLOCKS, CURRENT STANDARD CONTRACT STATES THAT THEY CAN USE AND MODIFY OUR DATA COLLECTED ON THEIR CAMERAS AS THEY PLEASE MODIFY THAT SHOULD ALARM EVERYONE AND PROVE THAT IT IS NOT AN ETHICAL TOOL FOR SAFETY FLOCK AND THE PLATFORM THEY ARE INTEGRATED WITH PALANTIR ARE BOTH FACING CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATIONS. PETER THIEL, THE OWNER OF PALANTIR, HAS STATED THAT THESE SYSTEMS WERE CREATED AS A POLITICAL INSTRUMENT DESIGNED TO SUPPRESS VOTERS. TECH OLIGARCHS PROFIT OFF OF FABRICATED FEAR AND A DIVIDED POPULACE. YOU HAVE ALLOWED A PRIVATE CORPORATION TO LITTER THE CITY WITH THESE UNSIGHTLY CAMERAS UNDER THE GUISE OF SAFETY. YOU STATE THAT THE POLICE AND SHERIFFS DO NOT SHARE DATA WITH ICE, BUT FLOCK HAS CONTRACTS WITH FEDERAL AGENTS WHO USE FLOCK DATA. WE RESERVE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT TO UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES. THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY AND WARRANTS MUST BE OBTAINED BASED ON PROBABLE CAUSE TO MAKE A SEARCH OR ARREST. WHEN CITIZENS END UP BEING STALKED OR ACCUSED OF CRIMES THEY DID NOT COMMIT. THANKS TO FAULTY AI AND A LACK OF DUE PROCESS, CITIZENS THAT SHOULD BE PRIVATE PAY THE PRICE. THEREFORE, IF YOU DO NOTHING WRONG, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO ABOUT OUR DAY WITHOUT FEAR AND INTIMIDATION. FLOCKS. PATENTS REVEAL THE TRUTH. THE SURVEILLANCE IS NOT SAFETY. THIS IS SOULLESS AI WITH THE ABILITY OF FACIAL RECOGNITION, PATTERN AND GAIT RECOGNITION, MICROPHONES, BLUETOOTH CAPABILITY TO GET INTO YOUR DEVICES AND ARE EASILY HACKABLE WITHIN SECONDS, THERE HAVE BEEN REPEATED REPORTS OF POLICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ABUSING FLOCK CAMERAS TO STALK WOMEN, AND IT HAS BEEN PROVEN HOW EASILY HACKABLE THEY ARE ON LIVE SOCIAL MEDIA. THEY ARE ON WALKING TRAILS, CHILDREN'S PARKS AND POINTED AT PRIVATE RESIDENCES AND MAILBOXES RIGHT HERE IN DENTON. AS A VICTIM OF STALKING FOR MANY YEARS. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN OF MINE. IT SHOULD BE KNOWN THAT FLOCK SECURITY VULNERABILITIES ARE FILED IN A NATIONAL VULNERABILITY DATABASE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. AND YET OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE ALLOWING THE TECH BILLIONAIRES AND THEIR PERSONAL POLITICAL AGENDAS TO TAKE OVER OUR TOWN AT OUR COST AND WITHOUT OUR VOTE, THESE POOR CHOICES WILL INEVITABLY AFFECT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY'S PRIVACY AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AS WELL. YOUR CONTRACT STATES THAT YOU CAN CANCEL FLOCK WITH A 30 DAY NOTICE. THERE ARE CITY COUNCILS PUTTING TRASH BAGS ON TOP OF FLOCK CAMERAS, SO DON'T TELL US THAT THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO. THE CAMERAS IN YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE WATCHING. YOU PUT DENTON ON THE MAP AS A CITY, TAKING A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. CANCEL AND BAN FLOCK. 
          AND PLEASE DO NOT BLINDLY REPLACE THEM WITH MORE LIKE AXON. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. >> AGENDA ITEM D, AGENDA ITEM D ID 26-1212 MILES. BEDLAM. 
          REGARDING TAX INCENTIVES FOR KRATOS. SKYE. STATE YOUR NAME. YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN. 
          >> MY NAME IS MILES BEDLAM AND I LIVE OFF OF LOOP 288. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN DENTON FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW. I'M A VOTER AND A CONCERNED CITIZEN. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO RESCIND THEIR $870,000 INCENTIVE DEAL WITH SKYE AND A DRONE MANUFACTURER. DUE TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND ETHICAL CONCERNS. AT THE VERY LEAST, I REQUEST THAT WE AS A CITY, DO MORE INVESTIGATIVE WORK TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND ENVIRONMENT BY REQUIRING AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FROM KRATOS, SKYE, AND I'D ALSO REQUEST TO RECONSIDER THE LOCATION IN WHICH THEIR FACILITY WILL BE IN, AS THEIR OPERATIONS ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING THAN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I LIVE ONLY 1.4 MILES FROM WHERE KRATOS IS SUPPOSED TO OPEN ON MANGO ROAD. THIS LOCATION IS IN THE CENTER OF MULTIPLE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WITH HOMES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEIR FACILITY. FURTHERMORE, IT IS ONLY 1.4 MILES AWAY FROM SHILOH FIELD, THE COUNTRY'S LARGEST COMMUNITY GARDEN, WHICH GROWS AND SUPPLIES FOOD FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS SERVING VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. ACCORDING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AEROSPACE MANUFACTURING MAY INVOLVE HAZARDOUS ORGANIC SOLVENTS, VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS, COATINGS, ADHESIVES, CLEANING PROCESSES, AND REGULATED WASTE, WHICH ARE POTENTIAL CARCINOGENS. THESE CHEMICALS AND THE PARTICLES THEY RELEASE COULD AFFECT OUR AIR QUALITY AND DRINKING WATER. I'M NOT CLAIMING THAT THIS FACILITY WILL NECESSARILY RELEASE THOSE POLLUTANTS. I'M SAYING THAT THE CITY MUST DETERMINE EXACTLY 
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WHAT POLLUTANTS, IF ANY, WILL BE RELEASED ONTO THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND EVEN FOOD SUPPLY OF THOUSANDS OF DENTON RESIDENTS. THIS MUST BE DONE THROUGH AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. FURTHERMORE, ZONING IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL RATHER THAN HEAVY. 
          INDUSTRIAL MUST BE SERIOUSLY RECONSIDERED. FIRSTLY, THEIR FACILITY IS 168,000FT■!S, WHICH IS HUGE FOR JUST SIMPLE ASSEMBLIES. ADDITIONALLY, THEY ARE CONTRACTED WITH LARGE INSTITUTIONS INCLUDING THE MILITARY AND SEVERAL CORPORATIONS. THE DIVERSITY OF UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE PRODUCTION CLAIMS TO BE WORKING ON THEIR EMPHASIS ON SUPPLY CHAIN SOVEREIGNTY IN THEIR MARKETING, THEIR MARKETING AND JOB POSTINGS, ADVERTISING AND THEIR WORDS. ADVANCED MANUFACTURING AND THEIR TRADEMARK APPLICATION, INCLUDING THE MANUFACTURE OF INDUSTRIAL ROBOTS, ALL SUGGEST THAT THEY MAY BE HOPING TO ENGAGE IN MORE INTENSIVE INDUSTRY THAN WOULD FALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. LASTLY, THE ETHICAL IMPLICATIONS OF SUPPORTING MILITARY ARMS DEALING DURING ACTIVE WARTIME IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME AND VIOLATES THE VALUES AND CONSCIENCE OF DENTON RESIDENTS. ACCORDING TO KRATOS CEO, 60% OF THE DRONES MANUFACTURED AT THEIR DENTON FACILITY WILL BE FOR MILITARY USE. THE US MILITARY IS ACTIVELY UTILIZING DRONE TECHNOLOGY TO BOMB THE PEOPLE OF IRAN, AND THEY HAVE KILLED ROUGHLY 3500 IRANIANS THUS FAR. 
          THE CONTINUANCE OF THIS WAR HAS RESULTED IN OVER A DOZEN YOUNG AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS LOSING THEIR LIVES, AND IS DRASTICALLY INFLATING GAS PRICES. ADDITIONALLY, OUR UNSOLICITED, SORRY BOMBARDMENT OF VENEZUELA AND OUR ARMS DEALING WITH ISRAEL, WHICH IS ACTIVELY ORCHESTRATING A GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE AND BOMBING THE PEOPLE OF LEBANON, ALL MAKE ME CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THESE MILITARY DRONES WILL BE USED FOR. WHEN THIS COUNCIL VOTED FOR US TO PAY FOR KRATOS COMING HERE WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS, THIS IS THE CITIZENS OF DENTON WERE FORCED, FURTHER INTO COMPLICITY THAN FROM FEDERAL TAXES TO THE MURDER AND MAIMING OF INNOCENT FOREIGN NATIONALS. THIS VIOLATES THE CONSCIENCE OF THE PEOPLE OF DENTON, AND THIS HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE CONTROVERSIAL. THERE IS AN ACTIVE PETITION STARTED BY THE COALITION DATA CENTER FREE DENTON, WITH OVER 600 SIGNATURES THUS FAR, THERE WILL BE MORE CIVIL UNREST LIKELY UPON THE OPENING OF THE FACTORY. THERE WILL BE TENSION AND A STRAIN ON THE CITY POLICE FORCE. WILL THE 258 JOBS THAT KRATOS BRINGS BE WORTH THE ETHICAL CONCERNS, POTENTIAL POLLUTION AND RESULTING CONTROVERSY? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT. PLEASE RECONSIDER THE DEAL. RECONSIDER THE ZONING OF CARDIO SKY FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND REQUIRE AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FROM KRATOS GUY. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU MILES. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM THREE E I'D 26-1213. MR. WILLIE HUDSPETH REGARDING SELECTION OF CITY MANAGER. IS MR. HUDSPETH HERE? I DON'T I 
          DON'T SEE HIM. >> MAYOR, WHILE I'M HERE TO SUPPORT, MR. HUDSPETH, BUT HE'S EITHER HAD AN ACCIDENT OR GOTTEN ILL BECAUSE I CONFIRMED WITH HIM YESTERDAY EVENING HE 
          WOULD BE HERE. >> I APPRECIATE. >> THAT, BUT I GUESS I CAN'T 
          SPEAK. >> ON IT. NO. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG. OKAY, THEN THE NEXT SPEAKER IS AGENDA ITEM THREE F I'D 26-1217 LARRY LAWRENCE REGARDING KEEPING MISS OGDEN PERMANENT AS CITY MANAGER. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TIME 
          WILL BEGIN. >> LARRY LAWRENCE GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. AS I LOOK AT THIS COUNCIL, I SEE AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF TALENT AND EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE A FORMER COUNTY JUDGE. WE HAVE ATTORNEYS WHO HAVE BUILT CAREERS ADVISING CLIENTS, INTERPRETING THE LAW AND SOLVING DIFFICULT PROBLEMS. WE HAVE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS OWNERS AND LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND FINANCE, BUDGET PERSONNEL, STRATEGIC PLANNING, AND WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS EVERY DAY. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING EVERY CITY IS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE. WHEN I THINK ABOUT OUR INNER CITY MANAGER, I DON'T SEE SOMEONE WHO HAS TO CARRY EVERY BURDEN ALONE. I SEE SOMEONE WHO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ALONGSIDE ONE OF THE MOST QUALIFIED CITY COUNCILS OUR COMMUNITY HAS HAD IN A LONG TIME. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A CITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP. THE CITY MANAGER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY, BUT NO ONE EXPECTS ANY LEADER TO HAVE EVERY ANSWER. THE STRONGEST LEADERS KNOW WHEN ASKED QUESTIONS, SEEK ADVICE AND LEAD ON THE. LEAN ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THOSE AROUND THEM. 
          AND THIS COUNCIL HAS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE TO OFFER. IF ENCOUNTERS A DIFFICULT ISSUE. SHE HAS ATTORNEYS WHO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEX LEGAL MATTERS. SHE HAS THE PERSPECTIVE OF A FORMER COUNTY JUDGE WHO HAS SPENT YEARS MAKING THOUGHTFUL DECISIONS. SHE HAS BUSINESS LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND FINANCE, PERSONNEL, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP TOGETHER, THAT CREATES A TEAM 
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THAT CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS AND MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD. THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE REMOVING THE WORD INTERIM IS THE RIGHT DECISION. LEADERSHIP THRIVES ON STABILITY. EMPLOYEES PERFORM BETTER WHEN THEY KNOW WHO IS LEADING THEM. DEPARTMENTS WORK BETTER WHEN THEY KNOW THE DIRECTION OF THE ORGANIZATION. BUSINESSES CONSIDER. CONSIDER INVESTING IN OUR CITY. LOOK FOR STABILITY. 
          OUR CITIZENS, OUR CITIZENS DESERVE STABILITY. THERE'S ALSO THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THIS DECISION. CONDUCTING ANOTHER CITY MANAGER SEARCH WILL COST TAXPAYERS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. RECRUITMENT FIRMS, ADVERTISING, TRAVEL EXPENSES, INTERVIEWS, STAFF TIME AND MONTHS OF UNCERTAINTY ALL COME WITH A PRICE TAG. INSTEAD OF SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS ON ANOTHER SEARCH, LET'S INVEST THEM WHERE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS THEM MOST. ONE ISSUE WE CAN. 
          ALL WE ALL RECOGNIZE IS A GROWING NUMBER OF CALLS INVOLVING OUR HOMELESS POPULATION. THESE CALLS OFTEN REQUIRE POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS TO RESPOND, EVEN WHEN THE SITUATION ISN'T TRULY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OR EMERGENCY MEDICAL ISSUE. OUR FIRST RESPONDERS DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB, BUT MANY OF THESE SITUATIONS CALL FOR TRAINED OUTREACH PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN WHO CAN CONNECT PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, HOUSING RESOURCES, ADDICTION TREATMENT, OR OTHER OR OTHER SUPPORT. INVESTING IN THOSE KINDS OF PROFESSIONALS COULD REDUCE THE STRAIN ON OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, WHILE PROVIDING MORE APPROPRIATE CARE FOR PEOPLE IN NEED. THAT SEEMS LIKE A BETTER USE OF TAXPAYER TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAN STARTING ANOTHER LENGTHY AND EXPENSIVE SEARCH FOR A CITY MANAGER WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS DEMONSTRATED PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION AND THE ABILITY TO LEAD COUNCIL MEMBERS. I BELIEVE THIS DECISION IS REALLY ABOUT CONFIDENCE. CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY MANAGER, CONFIDENCE IN THIS COUNCIL AND CONFIDENCE THAT WHEN TALENTED PEOPLE WORK TOGETHER, THEY MAKE EACH OTHER BETTER. WITH YOUR COLLECTIVE EXPERIENCE IN THE LAW, THE COURTS, BUSINESS AND PUBLIC SERVICE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING NECESSARY TO SUPPORT A SUCCESSFUL CITY MANAGER AND HELP OUR CITY REACH ITS FULL POTENTIAL. TONIGHT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO REMOVE THE INTERIM DESIGNATION, APPOINT OUR CITY MANAGER PERMANENTLY, AND ALLOW THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. THANK 
          YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU LARRY. 
          OKAY. WE HAVE A OPEN MIC, SPEAKER. WE DO HAVE A SLOT THAT WAS OPENED. AND MISS EVA GRECO, IF YOU'LL COME DOWN AND THIS IS OPEN MIC, SO WE CAN ONLY RESPOND WITH POLICY STATEMENTS OF FACT AND POLICY. SO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN. 
          >> EVA GRECO. >> GOD, THIS IS SUCH A DEJA VU HERE. I WANTED TO SPEAK. I HAVE TO PULL UP PICTURES REGARDING THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND. WHAT WE GO THROUGH. A LOT OF THESE PICTURES OR LET'S SEE. IT IS NOT LIKE THIS ANY MORE BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED. BUT. THIS IS THE CORNER OF GREG STREET AND FULTON STREET. OH. THIS IS. I'M SO SORRY. THIS IS THE CORNER OF GREG STREET AND FULTON STREET. THIS WAS LIKE THIS FOR APPROXIMATELY A YEAR. OKAY. THIS IS WALKING UP GREG STREET. ALSO WALKING UP GREG STREET. 
          GREG STREET. THIS IS A CORNER OF AMARILLO AND GREG STREET. GREG STREET AND GREG STREET IS NOT A LONG STREET. THIS IS JUST ONE SHORT BLOCK. AND THEN THEY FINALLY PUT A CONE AT THE CORNER OF GREG AND FULTON. BUT IF YOU SEE THE CONE IS OFF TO THE SIDE. THIS IS. OH, THIS IS ON. OVER ON WEST OAK BY THE CORNER OF WELCH WHERE THEY PUT UP THE CROSSING SIGN. BUT IF YOU NOTICE, I THINK I HAD ANOTHER PICTURE OF IT, BUT THERE WAS A HOLE THERE. I DON'T 
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KNOW IF THAT CITY PROPERTY OR WHAT, BUT RIGHT NEXT TO THAT SIGN THERE'S A HOLE APPROXIMATELY. SHANNON CHILDS, HER MOTHER, AND I WENT THERE. I STEPPED INTO IT AND IT WAS UP TO MY CALF. IT'S NOW OVERGROWN. YOU CAN'T SEE THE HOLE. THAT'S A DANGER OVER THERE. THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION CREW. AND THIS IS HOW WEST OAK BY PONDER LOOKED. AND THIS WAS THE TIME WE HAD A FORUM. ARE YOU GUYS. EVERYONE HAD A FORUM AT THE DENTON CHURCH. THAT WAS WHAT WAS ON THE SIDEWALK AT THAT TIME. THIS IS. OH, THIS IS SHOWING BY WEST ON WEST OAK STREET. OKAY. AND THE DEBRIS THAT'S LEFT BEHIND. OKAY. THIS IS MOUNTS, NO BARRICADES, NO CONES, NO WARNING. AND THIS WAS FOR MONTHS. THIS IS ALSO MOUNTS. THIS IS THE CORNER OF GREG STREET AND WEST OAK, RIGHT WHERE I LIVE. THIS. OH, WHY CAN'T. I'M SORRY. THIS IS STILL LIKE THIS TODAY. IT HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR MINIMUM TWO YEARS. AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. THIS IS BY WEST OAK AGAIN SHOWING THE DEBRIS THAT'S LEFT BEHIND WHEN IT RAINS. THIS IS WHAT GOES INTO OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM. OKAY. THIS WAS AFTER RAIN STORM ON WEST OAK GOING DOWN TOWARDS DENTON STREET. YOU COULD SEE THE MUDDY RUNOFF, THE ROCKS, DEBRIS, EVERYTHING. STORM DRAINS ARE NOT BLOCKED OFF, WHICH I THOUGHT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF COUNCIL IF WE COULD SOME KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY, SOME KIND OF MONITORING, FOR THESE PEOPLE. YOU CAN'T JUST WILLY NILLY AND DO WHAT YOU WANT. YOU KNOW, WE RESPECT YOU. WE FOLLOW YOUR CAUTION ROAD SIGNS, WHATEVER. OKAY. SO RESPECT US. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. >> JESTER YEAH. I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD MAYBE HAVE A STAFF PERSON. I DIDN'T GET DOWN ALL OF THE STREETS THAT SHE MENTIONED. AND JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I, I DON'T KNOW THE REASONS FOR THESE, ISSUES IN THESE SPECIFIC PLACES, BUT IF IT'S POSSIBLE, COULD WE GET SOMEONE TO MEET YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND? AND LET'S GET THOSE DOWN. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SOME CONTACT INFORMATION, 
          >> SURE. >> YEAH, WE'LL HAVE STAFF. WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY GET THAT 
          INFORMATION. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT AND FINDING OUT AND COMMUNICATING BACK TO YOU AND BEING RESPONSIVE THAT THAT'S ALL I'M 
          ASKING IS, IS THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SEEING 
          [4. CONSENT AGENDA]
NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE SOME? WE GOT ANOTHER. OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A FEW ITEMS PULLED. I'M GOING TO START WITH THE ONE THAT'S JUST BEEN TOTALLY PULLED OFF THE AGENDA ENTIRELY. AND THAT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEM X. SO THAT'S ON CONSENT. YEAH. CONSENT. AND SO ITEM C ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM D ITEM E AND ITEM G HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR AN ITEM OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. SO THOSE WILL BE CONSIDERED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA ACTION. AND WE DO HAVE SOME CARDS TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED. SO AGAIN THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM EXCEPT FOR C, D, E AND G WHICH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR AN ITEM OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND OMITTING AGENDA ITEM X, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED ENTIRELY OFF OF THE AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL. 
          >> I MOVE APPROVAL ACCEPTING THE PULLED ITEMS. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. 
          >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. SAVE THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED. LET'S VOTE PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. NOW WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AS ITEMS OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. THE 
          [C. ID 26-1236 Consider a nomination/appointment to the City of Denton Airport Advisory Board.]
FIRST IS AGENDA ITEM FOR C I'D 261236. CONSIDER NOMINATION SLASH APPOINTMENT TO THE CITY OF DENTON AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD. COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL. 
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          >> THANK YOU MAYOR. YES, I PULLED ALL OF MY NOMINATIONS CONSIDERING THE MOST RECENT NEWS AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH THE MAYOR, CITY STAFF, AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE CONTEXT SURROUNDING, WHY I PULLED THOSE NOMINATIONS, IN RELATION TO THE TIMING OF MY RESIGNATION. IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, I AM PLANNING ON RESIGNING BEFORE THE END OF MY TERM. HOWEVER, THESE NOMINATIONS WERE MADE PRIOR TO THAT RESIGNATION BEING SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN NOMINATED IS DULY VETTED. THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO SERVE. AND I BELIEVE THESE ARE ALL QUALIFIED, WELL-MEANING INDIVIDUALS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM BE ABLE TO SERVE IN THEIR CAPACITY HERE IN THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT THEY'RE BEING NOMINATED FOR, IN RELATION TO, THIS SPECIFIC ITEM FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD. AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD. MR. WILL BASS DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE IN CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATION, COST ESTIMATION AND CONSTRUCTION LOGISTICS. AND I BELIEVE HE'D BE A VITAL MEMBER OF THE 
          AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. 
          >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WAS, I WAS SADDENED TO HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL'S RESIGNATION. 
          AND I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR HEALTH. AND I WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT HERE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO. HOWEVER, YOU WILL BE RESIGNING EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST. AND I THINK IT ONLY FAIR THAT YOUR SUCCESSOR BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS AT AT HIS OR HER PLEASURE WITH, WITH WHATEVER, WITH WHATEVER NOMINATIONS THEY SEE FIT. I'M SURE MR. MR. BASS IS WELL QUALIFIED, BUT I THINK THIS IS A BASIC TENANT OF OF THE OFFICE AND WHOEVER SUCCEEDS, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU. 
          >> OKAY. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION. AND LOOKING FOR A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION LOOKING FOR A SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER STEPHENS. 
          >> SOME OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A TALK WITH US TO, I DON'T SEE A SECOND, BUT I DO THINK WE ALL NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT OPENLY INSTEAD OF LETTING SOMETHING DIE. AND SO, I MEAN, I'D LIKE FOR US ALL TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, IF THAT'S OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE WRESTLED WITH THIS FOR A FEW REASONS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO VOICE IT AND ASK FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE OTHER FIVE WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET, WHICH IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AT ONCE. I WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE, AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE IS QUALIFIED AND PREPARED TO TAKE ON THESE ROLES. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE VOICED AS WELL. I THINK WHAT. SO, SO THAT'S ON ONE SIDE. THE OTHER SIDE OF IT TOO IS, COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAD A PITCH COME UP A YEAR AGO AND WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT IN SEPTEMBER ABOUT SOME REALLY GENUINE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WE DO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS RIGHT NOW. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT THEY'RE ALL SCATTERED THE WAY THAT THEY ARE, AND THEY SHOULD CORRESPOND DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SWEARING IN AND THEIR END DATE. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT THAT WAY. SO I, I, IT WASN'T US. I, I GENUINELY APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO I BRING THAT UP JUST TO SAY, EVEN IF THESE PEOPLE WERE APPOINTED, THEY WOULD NOT SERVE THEIR FULL TWO YEARS. THEY'D BE LIKELY IN MY READING OF A ROOM, AND IN MAY, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST NOT, I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE SECONDING IT. BUT WITH ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED, THEY ARE HIGHLY QUALIFIED. I'M HAPPY TO PUT THEM ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          BECAUSE THEY SHOULD SERVE IF THEY WANT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. BUT LIKE I SAID, I 
          WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE ELSE ON THAT. >> POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. 
          >> WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER? >> MR. MAYOR, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION, BUT SO FAR THERE'S NOT BEEN A SECOND. WE ARE DISCUSSING WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS WITHOUT A SECOND. I, I THINK THAT THE THAT THE MOTION NEEDS TO DIE FOR LACK OF A SECOND. 
          >> MISTER CITY ATTORNEY, COULD YOU PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT, PLEASE? 
          >> I GUESS, BEFORE WE HAVE TO RULE ON THAT? I THOUGHT I HEARD A SECOND. WAS THERE A SECOND OR 
          NOT? >> THERE IS. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SECOND. I DO NOT BELIEVE. 
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          >> IT WAS NOT SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHENS. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE MAYOR, TECHNICALLY, ROBERT'S RULES SAYS YOU SHOULD HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE YOU DEBATE AN ISSUE THAT IS VERY SELDOMLY ENFORCED ON THE COUNCIL. AND CHAIR DOES HAVE SOME DISCRETION TO HAVE DEBATE PRIOR TO RECEIVING A SECOND. SO IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE DEBATE BEFORE OR AFTER, SUBJECT TO BEING CHALLENGED BY 
          THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. >> OKAY. SO AS FAR AS A POINT OF ORDER HAS BEEN MADE, IS THAT 
          WHAT HOW DOES THAT GET DISPOSED? >> YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION. YOU RULE ON THE POINT OF ORDER. 
          >> OKAY, SURE. COUNCILMEMBER HALL, I APPRECIATE THAT POINT OF ORDER. I KNOW THAT, THE PRACTICE ON THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, EVEN WHEN I'VE BEEN ON IT AS AGENDA ITEMS ARE CALLED, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION. AND USUALLY THE MOTION AND THE SECOND IS THE ENDING OF THE DISCUSSION. SO, I WOULD HATE TO CHANGE THAT COURSE IN THIS PARTICULAR SETTING. IN THIS CONTEXT, I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN TALK 
          ABOUT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME WITH THIS. >> MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. AND, AND I DON'T RECALL THAT IN ANY PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE THAT I'VE EVER PARTICIPATED IN, INCLUDING THIS ONE WHERE DISCUSSION PRECEDED A SECOND, I THINK THIS IS OUT OF ORDER. 
          >> OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER FERRY. 
          >> I JUST SECONDED THE ITEM BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT. SORRY, I DIDN'T 
          WANT. >> POINT OF ORDER. >> MR. 
          >> MAYOR, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. THANK YOU. 
          >> AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD DISCUSS IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, IT'S NOT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL. IT'S TO SAY, OKAY, IF THE IF THE ISSUE IS WE NEED A SECOND, THEN I'M GOING TO SECOND IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S WORTH THE DISCUSSION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE. I'VE ALWAYS SEEN BOARD APPOINTMENTS AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF MENTORSHIP. I SERVED ON THE PARKS BOARD FOR SIX YEARS. I WAS THE CHAIR FOR THREE, AND I CONTACTED MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND I ASKED THEM QUESTIONS, AND I TALKED ABOUT BUDGET. PARKS HAS LOTS OF BUCKETS OF FUNDING. THE CITY HAS FAR MORE. SO FOR ME, THE ISSUE I HAVE IS MORE SO APPOINTING SOMEONE ON THE END OF THE TAIL END OF YOUR. YOU RUNNING DOESN'T AFFORD THAT PERSON A MENTOR. AND THEN THEIR, THEIR REPLACEMENT MAY NOT HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP OR MAY NOT BUILD THAT RAPPORT WITH THAT PERSON, KIND OF LEAVING THAT PERSON ON AN ISLAND TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES IN A BOARD. AND SOME OF THESE BOARDS CAN BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. PARKS BEAUTIFICATION AND, RECREATION IS A VERY DIFFICULT BOARD TO BE ON. IT REQUIRES A LOT OF LEARNING. IT'S NOT TO DISCREDIT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING NOMINATED. AND I WANT SONIA HUERTA, I WANT WILL BASS, I WANT VICKI BYRD AND I WANT, TAYLOR BROWN TO KNOW THAT I WILL BE CALLING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TONIGHT. I HAVE MY SHEET OF THE BOARDS THAT ARE OPEN AND EMPTY AND VACANT OR HAVE APPOINTMENTS UP THAT I WANT YOU FOR TO FILL, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SERVE SHOULD SERVE. BUT I WILL BE HERE FOR TWO YEARS TO BE THE MENTOR THAT I BELIEVE I NEED TO BE FOR YOU SO THAT I'M ACCESSIBLE TO MY CONSTITUENTS. AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT I'M KIND OF GRAPPLING WITH TONIGHT. 
          >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER JESTER. >> THANK YOU. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT FOR MY COLLEAGUE, MY COLLEAGUES AND AND THE NOMINEES, I'M WILL ALSO BE VOTING DOWN THESE NOMINATIONS TODAY. AND THERE'S A FEW REASONS WHY. FIRST, WE DO HAVE A SCHEDULED TIME TO TALK ABOUT COMBINING SOME OF THESE BOARDS, EVEN SHIFTING SOME OF THESE BOARDS TO OTHER COMMUNITY BOARDS. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE HAVE TWICE AS MANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAN CITIES TWICE OUR SIZE. AND IT SEEMS TO BE A CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY DEPARTMENTS OF THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS, BUT, CUMBERSOME AND DIFFICULT TIME THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE AGENDAS, THE POSTINGS, THE MINUTES, ETCETERA. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ALSO HESITANT AT THIS TIME TO, MOVE FORWARD. ALSO I MEET WITH EACH OF MY BOARD APPOINTEES AND ASK THEM TO BE SOMEONE PART OF MY EYES AND EARS AS FAR AS IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S CONCERNING THEM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY THINK IS GOING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL THAT COMES TO COUNCIL, THAT IS SOMEONE THAT I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH, AND AT LEAST NOT A RELATIONSHIP. BUT, WHETHER I'D NEVER MET THEM BEFORE AND MET THEM BECAUSE THEY APPLIED FOR A BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT THEY WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE COMMUNICATING WITH ME BECAUSE I CAN'T WATCH EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETING. ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO, I 
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CAN'T. SO I DO THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, MY MY VOTE IS BASED SOLELY ON MY VIEW THAT APPOINTMENTS OF THIS NATURE ARE BEST MADE BY THOSE WHO WILL BE CONTINUING TO SERVE AND REMAIN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE TODAY. AND AS THIS COUNCIL MEMBER VERY SADLY, WILL BE SOON LEAVING OFFICE, I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE INCOMING COUNCIL MEMBER TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE TERMS WILL GO PAST THE TIME THAT THEY'LL BE SERVING. SO, I, I COULD ARGUE MYSELF BOTH WAYS, ALSO WRESTLED WITH THIS QUESTION AND HAVE DEFINITELY THOUGHT ABOUT IT. AND IN MY FINAL DETERMINATION, I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE CONSIDERING THE VERY UNFORTUNATE DECISION THAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD TO MAKE TO STEP DOWN. I THINK IT MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE INCOMING COUNCIL MEMBER TO MAKE THESE APPOINTMENTS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. 
          >> COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR. >> THANK YOU. I WILL BE ECHOING THE THOUGHTS OF MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES. ZERO TO DO WITH THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE INDIVIDUALS. AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL STEPPING UP TO VOLUNTEER FOR THESE ROLES. ZERO TO DO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL. EVERYTHING TO DO WITH I MEAN, I'M, I'VE BEEN IN THIS SEAT FOR A YEAR AND THERE WERE A FEW SEAT OR A FEW POSITIONS, I THINK OF MINE THAT WERE FILLED RIGHT BEFORE. AND I WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL THOSE SEATS AND SELECT WHO THAT WAS. SO IT REALLY IS BASED ENTIRELY ON THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE GOING TO END UP ON A BOARD AT SOME POINT. MAYBE, MAYBE BY THE END, BY SEPTEMBER. SO PLEASE, PLEASE STAY INTERESTED, REACH OUT TO US. 
          BUT I WILL BE OPPOSING THESE PARTICULAR CASES. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. AND, AND I'LL GIVE MY COMMENTS. AND AFTER THAT, WE DO HAVE A BLUE CARD WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE WE HAVE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO THIS IS AN ACTIVE MOTION ON THE TABLE. 
          AND SO WE WILL WE WILL HEAR THAT BLUE CARD. I'M GOING TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY MY COLLEAGUES WITH MAYBE ONE SLIGHT VARIATION. OBVIOUSLY, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY PERSONALLY. IT'S JUST IT'S THE UNUSUAL AND UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, MINE IS NOT PREDICATED ON THE WORK SESSION COMING UP IN SEPTEMBER, SIMPLY BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALREADY MADE SOME BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENTS, AND I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME OTHERS THAT COME UP. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S FORECLOSING COUNCIL MEMBERS MAKING THOSE BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. SO, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE SPEAKER. YOU CAN CERTAINLY COME DOWN AND SPEAK. YOU FILLED OUT A BLUE CARD IF YOU CHOOSE TO, PLEASE COME DOWN. AND IF NOT, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. MR. WILLIAM BASS, IF YOU'LL COME DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN. 
          >> MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS WILL BASS. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING EVERY ONE OF YOU AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST. HONESTLY. SIX MONTHS. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I AM PROUD TO LIVE IN BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN DENTON, TEXAS. I WANT TO LEAVE ANY CONSTERNATION, ANY CONTROVERSY AT THE AT THE DOOR FOR THIS. TO ME, I SEE ONLY TWO QUESTIONS ON THE TABLE TODAY. 
          WHY NOW AND WHY ME? TO THE FIRST QUESTION, DIDN'T. ENTERPRISE AIRPORT SITS ON 930 ACRES OF CITY OWNED LAND WITH TWO RUNWAYS. ON THIS MODEST FOOTPRINT, THE AIRPORT HAS QUIETLY BECOME THE FIFTH BUSIEST AIRPORT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, IT WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW. NOW LET'S LOOK AT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE AND THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN ARE MOVING TOWARD THEIR COMPLETION. THIS IS A 20 YEAR BLUEPRINT THAT ALSO GOVERNS OUR ELIGIBILITY FOR STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AT THE AIRPORT. THIS IS THE MOMENT WHEN AN ADVISORY COUNCIL SHOULD BE AT FULL STRENGTH AND WORKING INSTEAD. AS OF THIS YEAR, AS OF TODAY, THE BOARD HAS TAKEN FOUR ACTIONS UP AGAINST 15 ACTIONS TAKEN LAST YEAR. IF WE DO NOT. IF WE DO NOT TAKE ACTION TODAY, THIS SEAT WILL REMAIN VACANT FOR SIX MORE MONTHS, PRECISELY WHEN THE MASTER PLAN AND THE LAYOUT PLAN ARE SUPPOSED TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL. LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FULL BOARD WHEN THAT HAPPENS. NOW WHY ME? COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED I AM A CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATOR. I 
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REGULARLY REVIEW AND REDLINE CONTRACTS VALUED UP TO $3 MILLION EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. 
          AS PART OF MY DAY JOB, I HAVE NEGOTIATED FINAL TERMS WITH GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND MORE THAN $8 MILLION IN AWARDED WORK AND ADVISORY BOARD. AT THE PRACTICAL LEVEL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE AIRPORT, IS REQUIRED TO READ POLICY AND LEASE LANGUAGE AND THEN JUST ASK HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHAT I DO EVERY DAY. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WILL READ EVERY PACKET, I WILL SHOW UP PREPARED, AND I WILL ASK THE HARDEST QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE DENTON TAXPAYER. NOW, I ASK YOU ALL TO FILL THIS SEAT AND HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE AT REAPPOINTMENT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I, I DO NOT SEE ANY MORE CARDS FOR. IF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD CLEAR THEIR REQUEST TO SPEAK SO I CAN SEE IF SOMEBODY IS WANTING TO. OKAY. 
          COUNCILMEMBER VILLARREAL, SORRY, I COULDN'T TELL. >> THANK YOU MAYOR, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE. I FIND IT CURIOUS THAT WE'RE SETTING A NEW PRECEDENT. NOW, THIS HAS NEVER BEEN THE PRECEDENT OF THIS COUNCIL TO PREVENT AN OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBER TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN SET IN STONE. THIS IS A BRAND NEW PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE SETTING NOW. I JUST FIND IT CURIOUS. I SEE HOW THIS IS GOING. THAT'S OKAY. I 
          APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. >> THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COUNCIL QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM C, SO LET'S VOTE 
          PLEASE. >> MAKE. >> MOTION DOES NOT PASS 6 TO 1. 
          OKAY. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM FOUR D I'D 26-123 FOR CONSIDERATION OF A 
          [D. ID 26-1234 Consider a nomination/appointment to the City of Denton Board of Ethics.]
NOMINATION APPOINTMENT TO THE CITY OF DENTON. BOARD OF ETHICS COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL. 
          >> MR. TAYLOR BROWN IS A LIFELONG DENTON KNIGHT, A GRADUATE OF DENTON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS, HE HOLDS A MASTER'S OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AS A FORMER CITY OF DENTON RANK AND FILE EMPLOYEE, AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD BE AN ADMIRABLE MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ETHICS. I MOVE APPROVAL. THANK YOU. 
          >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR FOR THE REASONS THAT I STATED 
          EARLIER >> AND. AND I'M SURE MR. BROWN IS EMINENTLY QUALIFIED FOR THIS POSITION. I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT. BUT BUT BECAUSE, COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAREAL IS UNFORTUNATELY LEAVING, LEAVING HIS SEAT SO SOON, I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE THAT, HE MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO A TO A NOMINEE THAT WILL THAT WILL LIKELY LONG SUCCEED HIM. I DON'T THINK THAT'S I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SPIRIT. AND I THINK THE, THE, THE NEW, MAN OR WOMAN WHO TAKES, MEMBER VILLARREAL'S PLACE HAS THE, I THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO GIVE THAT PERSON THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT BOARD, BOARD POSITIONS OF HIS CHOOSING. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS, 
          THIS MOTION. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SO I JUST ASK, THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BLUE CARD TO SPEAK. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE SPEAK BEFORE, AND SO IT'S MY DISCRETION, FROM WHAT I 
          UNDERSTAND, IF I, WITHOUT A SECOND TO ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK. >> YES, YOU'D ONLY BE REQUIRED TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO SPEAK IF YOU WERE ACTUALLY TAKING ACTION ON A VOTE. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALLOW SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM IF THERE'S NO SECOND. 
          >> OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION AND IT'S SORT OF DEVELOPING REAL TIME. AND, THEY'RE HERE. THEY FILLED OUT A CARD, SO I WANT THEIR VOICE TO BE HEARD. SO I BELIEVE I'VE GOT A CARD FOR TAYLOR BROWN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN, YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME. YOU'LL HAVE 
          FOUR MINUTES. >> POINT OF ORDER. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF. 
          >> ORDER, MR. MAYOR. I THINK THIS IS IMPROPER. WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION ON A ON A MOTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN SECONDED. THE PROPER PROCEDURE IS TO GET A MOTION TO GET A SECOND. AND AT THAT POINT, AND ONLY AT THAT POINT TO RECEIVE DISCUSSION, I THINK THIS IS IMPROPER. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR POINT OF ORDER. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I JUST WANT TO ASK ONE MORE TIME. 
          IS THAT A POINT OF ORDER? IS THAT AN AUTOMATIC REQUIREMENT? IF YOU DON'T GET A SECOND, YOU 
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CAN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK. YOU SAID ONLY IF YOU'RE TAKING ACTION. 
          >> SO ROBERT'S RULES LAY OUT THE CONCEPT OF HAVING THE MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE YOU HAVE DEBATE ON THAT. THAT IS THE ROBERT'S RULES. ROBERT'S RULES ALSO ALLOWS FOR LOCAL PRACTICE AND CUSTOM, WHICH HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE AND CUSTOM TO ALSO RECEIVE A LOT OF DEBATE AND DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO RECEIVING A SECOND. SO WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION, YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION SUBJECT TO A CHALLENGE BY THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. 
          >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. >> AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT. YOU ARE MY COLLEAGUE. I JUST THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS THIS WITHOUT A SECOND. BUT WHEN THE MOTION COMES UP, WE TALK ABOUT WHY WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT BEFORE WE EVEN BEGIN OPENING UP DISCUSSION. IT FEELS LIKE 
          DISCUSSION. >> OKAY. >> POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. 
          >> YES. >> MR. MAYOR, THE MOTION CANNOT COME UP BECAUSE THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SECOND ON THIS MOTION. IT CANNOT COME UP BECAUSE THERE'S NOT BEEN A SECOND. 
          THEREFORE, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION IS IS PROHIBITED. >> OKAY. MR. BROWN, YOU HAVE MADE MY DETERMINATION. YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TAYLOR BROWN. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A FACE TO THE NAME FOR THE NOMINATION TONIGHT. AS COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL STATED, I'M A LIFELONG DENTON KNIGHT. I'M A GRADUATE OF THE ORIGINAL DENTON HIGH SCHOOL, BACK WHEN IT WAS ON FULTON STREET, THE GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AND MOST RECENTLY A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON WITH A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION. SO I LOVE THIS CITY. IT'S THE ONLY HOME I'VE EVER KNOWN. AND LIKE MANY OF YOU, I'VE ASKED MYSELF, HOW CAN I BEST SERVE? WHAT CAN I DO NEXT? AND FOR ME, IT IS THE BOARD OF ETHICS. AND SO I BELIEVE WE WOULD BE IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LET THIS VACANCY PERSIST. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR BOARDS HAVE HAD ISSUES MAKING QUORUM IN THE PAST. THE BOARD OF ETHICS IS A VITAL BOARD TO KEEP EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE. AND SO I POLITELY AND RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER YOUR STANCES ON THE ISSUE TONIGHT. WE'VE GOT VERY WELL QUALIFIED PEOPLE HERE NOMINATED TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. SO NICE TO 
          MEET YOU. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION, WITHOUT A SECOND. AND I'LL CALL ONE MORE TIME FOR A SECOND. 
          >> MR. MAYOR, I RESCIND MY MOTION, AND I MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM INDEFINITELY. 
          >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. AND THAT'S ITEM D. 
          [E. ID 26-1233 Consider a nomination/appointment to the City of Denton Planning and Zoning Commission.]
          >> ITEM D, CORRECT. >> ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR E I'D 26-1233. CONSIDER NOMINATION APPOINTMENT TO THE CITY OF DENTON PLANNING AND 
          ZONING COMMISSION. COUNCILMEMBER VILLARREAL. >> FORMER COUNCILMAN VICKI BYRD TO SERVE THE CITY IN MULTIPLE CAPACITIES OVER HER LIFELONG COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE. A FORMER POLICE OFFICER, A FORMER DENTON ISD SCHOOL TEACHER, A FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, A FORMER MEMBER OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HERE IN TOWN, A FORMER ROTARIAN PRESIDENT FOR THE DENTON ROTARY CLUB, SHE HAS SERVED HER COMMUNITY IN MULTIPLE CAPACITIES. SHE KNOWS ZONING AND PLANNING BECAUSE SHE SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL. THERE'S NO REASON FOR A VACANCY TO PERSIST FOR FIVE MONTHS ON ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMISSIONS IN TOWN. AND IT'S NEVER BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THIS COUNCIL, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE CHANGING PRACTICES LEFT 
          AND RIGHT, SO I MOVE APPROVAL. >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'M GOING TO SECOND IT SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION WITH ALL THE, CROSS TALK. SO, I HAVE A CARD TO SPEAK. IS THIS THIS IS E YES. 
          COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. >> THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR FOLLOWING THE RULES OF PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. THAT'S THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME. I SERVED WITH, COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD FOR THREE YEARS AND, AND I ENJOYED EVERY MOMENT OF IT. I CONSIDER HER A FRIEND AND A VERY, VERY QUALIFIED MEMBER OF OUR, NOT ONLY OF OUR COUNCIL, BUT OF OUR COMMUNITY. THIS, MY NO VOTE ON THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VICKI BYRD QUALIFICATIONS, ONLY THAT THE PERSON THAT SUCCEEDS COUNCIL MEMBER VILLAREAL SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM OR HERSELF TO APPOINT VICKI BYRD TO THIS POSITION. I WILL BE VOTING NO. 
          >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? WE DO HAVE A CARD. MISS BYRD HAS FILLED OUT A BLUE CARD. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME DOWN, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN. 
          >> HELLO, EVERYONE. IT'S GREAT TO BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE. BUT I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, 
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ADVOCATE FOR MYSELF. I WANTED TO ADVOCATE FOR, COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS NOMINATION. THE SAME SENTIMENTS OF THAT YOU HAVE EXPRESSED TOWARDS ME. I CERTAINLY DO SEND THAT RIGHT BACK TO YOU. I THINK YOU'RE VERY HIGHLY INTELLIGENT, QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL TO BE SITTING IN THAT SEAT. I AM VERY INTERESTED IN BEING ON PLANNING AND ZONING, BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SPACE IS FILLED. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THIS CITY. WE ARE STILL MAKING SOME VERY IMPORTANT DECISIONS. AND A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS START WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. AND SO THE FORMER MEMBER, PLANNING AND ZONING RESIGNED ABRUPTLY. AND SO THAT LEFT THIS SPACE. AND I WOULD FEEL REMISS IF I DIDN'T COME HERE AND AT LEAST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I AM INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT THAT SPACE IS FILLED FOREVER, HOWEVER LONG THAT WOULD BE. BUT I'M HERE FOR IT. I'M HERE FOR IT. I KNOW HOW WE WORK. I KNOW CITY ADMINISTRATION. I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR, FOR US TO GET ALONG WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FORCES. I HAVE ALREADY BEEN ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND HAVE MET A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE READY TO BREAK SOME GROUND HERE, BUT ALSO OUR HUMAN SERVICES THAT WE HAVE HERE. IT'S JUST ALL INTERCONNECTED. SO WITH ME HAVING THAT KIND OF KNOWLEDGE, I CAN REST ASSURED TO YOU ALL THAT IF YOU PUT ME ON THIS SEAT TONIGHT, I WILL BE READY TO GO IN THE MORNING BECAUSE I'M JUST READY. AND SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT THERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING HARD. I KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE. SO JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. AND 
          PLEASE MAKE THIS CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> ANY MORE COMMENT FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM FOUR E. MOTION 
          [G. ID 26-1237 Consider a nomination/appointment to the City of Denton Zoning Board of Adjustment.]
FAILS 6 TO 1. WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR. G CONSIDER NOMINATION APPOINTMENT TO THE 
          CITY OF DENTON. ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. >> MR. MAYOR, I TABLE THIS ITEM. 
          >> IS THAT THE CORRECT PROCEDURE? >> I MOVE TO POSTPONE 
          INDEFINITELY. >> HE CAN MAKE. IT'S A CORRECT MOTION. IT REQUIRES A SECOND AND A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT THAT. OKAY. AND SO WITHOUT THAT IT WOULD JUST BE SHOWN ON THE MINUTES AS A NO ACTION. IF THERE'S NOT ANY SECOND OR AN ACTUAL VOTE ON 
          THIS MOTION. >> OKAY. SO YOUR MOTION IS TO TABLE. I THINK YOU SAID INDEFINITELY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE BOARD. IS THERE A SECOND. 
          >> POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE? >> YES. MR. HOLLAND POINT OF ORDER. 
          >> AND I'M VERY SORRY TO CONTINUE THIS. I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW THE DISPOSITION OF ITEMS, D AND G WILL SET. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THEM. WE'RE SETTING THEM ASIDE. SO AT A AT A DATE UNCERTAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VISIT A NOMINATION MADE BY A PERSON WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE A COUNCIL MEMBER AT THAT TIME. THAT JUST SEEMS COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO VOTE UP OR DOWN ON ALL OF THESE AND AND, AND PROCEED THAT WAY. OTHERWISE, 
          WE'RE CARRYING THIS BAGGAGE AROUND WITH US. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, I GOT TO TELL YOU, THAT'S HILARIOUS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THE ONE THAT'S NOT YOU'VE BEEN THE ONE THAT'S NOT WANTING TO VOTE ON ANY OF THEM. SO I JUST FIND THIS IRONIC THAT YOU'VE CALLED 
          POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING. I BELIEVE I HAD THE FLOOR. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. YOU SURE DO. >> ON THE OTHER TWO ITEMS, WE VOTED. WE VOTED ON THOSE TWO. 
          WE DIDN'T VOTE ON ON D AND G, AND I MEAN NO RESPECT, SIR, I SINCERELY DON'T. 
          >> DON'T TAKE IT. >> AS THAT. I THINK I THINK THAT WE'RE OUT OF ORDER AND AND AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE WE FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER FOR THAT REASON SO THAT WE DON'T 
          GET OUT OF ORDER. I THINK WE'RE OUT OF ORDER WITH WITH RESPECT. >> SIR, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THOUGH WE'VE I'VE ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TWICE, SIR, IF WE ARE OUT OF ORDER, AND HE SAYS, BASED UPON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. YES, BUT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AUTHORIZES OR 
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          ALLOWS. WHAT WAS YOUR TERM? >> LOCAL CUSTOM AND PRACTICE. >> LOCAL CUSTOM AND PRACTICE. 
          SO I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT NOT EVERY AGENDA ITEM THAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL HAS WAITED FOR A MOTION, AND A SECOND BEFORE COUNCIL COULD EVEN DISCUSS IT AT ALL. SO MY ONLY CONCERN OR OBSERVATION IS THAT PRACTICE HAS BEEN IN FOR A WHILE. AND I BELIEVE, SIR, PROBABLY YOU HAVE DONE THAT SOME. I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK. BUT YOU HAVEN'T. THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY I'M THE CHAIR AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS GIVEN ME ADVICE TO SAY THAT I HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S THE DECISION I'M MAKING. 
          I DON'T TAKE IT AS ANY DISRESPECT. I DON'T TAKE IT AS ANY AFFRONT TO AUTHORITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE. SO LET ME LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND BROUGHT UP THAT IF IT'S TABLED INDEFINITELY, DOES THAT MEAN IT COMES BACK AT ANY TIME OR DOES IT JUST END EFFECTIVELY? 
          >> IT ENDS. IT WOULD REQUIRE THE PERSON THAT MADE THE MOTION TO BRING IT BACK AT SOME POINT 
          IN THE FUTURE. >> OKAY. AND I BELIEVE I THINK YOU SHARED WITH ME THAT ON ITEM D, WE PROBABLY NEED TO REVISIT THAT ONE AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT HE WITHDREW IT INDEFINITELY. 
          BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND. WE DIDN'T HAVE A VOTE. AND SO IT'S SORT OF IN THE SAME SITUATION 
          AS AGENDA ITEM G. >> IF THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN, THAT'S WHAT WILL BE REFLECTED 
          ON THE MINUTES IS THAT NO ACTION WAS TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL. >> WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          >> I SECOND THAT MOTION. >> WE HAVE A SECOND. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND, COUNCILMEMBER, I'LL GET TO YOU HERE IN A SECOND. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MEANS THIS MOTION DIES INDEFINITELY UNLESS THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION, COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL, BRINGS THAT MOTION UP AT SOME OTHER SUBSEQUENT TIME. CORRECT. OKAY. COUNCIL 
          MEMBER JESTER. >> THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M MAKING A GOOD DECISION. A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ONE QUICK QUESTION, PROBABLY FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND FORGIVE ME, I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING ON. POSTPONE INDEFINITELY VERSUS TABLING. DO BOTH OF THESE BASICALLY MEAN THE SAME THING? AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT THIS COULD BE BROUGHT UP EVERY MEETING? AND IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? 
          >> THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. AND DEFINITELY TYPICALLY IS KILLING AN ITEM I GUESS IN NON ROBERT RULES TERMS IT GOES AWAY UNLESS THE PERSON BRINGS IT BACK AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY COULD NOT BRING IT BACK. AND WE RAISE THE ISSUE AT SOME 
          POINT IN TIME THEY COULD DO THAT. >> OKAY, SO DOES IT MATTER? THE 
          VERNACULAR. >> POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. THAT PERSON HAS THAT ABILITY TO BRING IT BACK OFF THE TABLE, OR TO BRING THE ITEM BACK AND PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA? 
          >> OKAY. SO WHETHER IT'S POSTPONED, INDEFINITELY TABLED, OR IT'S VOTED DOWN, IT CAN 
          STILL BE BROUGHT BACK. EVERY MEETING. >> IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. VOTED DOWN. WE HAVE A SIX MONTH TIME FRAME BEFORE SOMETHING CAN COME BACK IF IT'S ACTUALLY DENIED. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE THAT TIMELINE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MET. IF SOMETHING IS ACTUALLY IS MOTION 
          TO APPROVE AND IT FAILS TO PASS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THANK YOU 
          FOR THE CLARIFICATION, I APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY, SO YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING. SO IF IT'S DENIED, IT CAN'T COME BACK FOR UP TO SIX WITHIN SIX MONTHS. 
          >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. AND AGAIN, FOR CLARIFICATION, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL WHO ORIGINALLY MADE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY, WHICH IS COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES. COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. 
          >> BEG YOUR PARDON. SO A YES VOTE ON THIS MOTION KILLS THIS NOMINATION. IS THAT WHAT I'M 
          UNDERSTANDING? >> YES. UNLESS AND UNTIL COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL 
          DECIDED TO BRING. >> IT BACK. THANK YOU. MAYOR. >> YES. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, LET'S VOTE ON THE BOARD. SO POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE MOTION TO POSTPONE. IT'S NOT CONSIDERED NOMINATION APPOINTMENT. SO THE 
          MOTION IS TO POSTPONE. >> THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY. 
          >> OKAY. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT CORRECT IN THE MINUTES. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO I CAN GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM D BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION. AGENDA ITEM D COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL YOU BASICALLY SAID POSTPONED INDEFINITELY, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN 
          OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE. >> REGRETTABLY MOVE TO POSTPONE 
          INDEFINITELY. >> OKAY. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          >> I SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S VOTE ON THE BOARD, PLEASE. YES. GO AHEAD. 
          >> SO AGAIN, A VOTE OF A VOTE OF YES EFFECTIVELY KILLS THIS MOTION. 
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          >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. >> MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          [A. ID 26-1153 Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton authorizing the execution of an agreement and the expenditure of General Funds to support the development of a Strategic Plan by the Meadows Mental Health Policy Institute for the 90th Texas State Legislature for the implementation of a Denton County Mental Health & Jail Diversion Center Pilot; authorizing the expenditure of funds in an amount not to exceed $10,000.00; and providing an effective date.]
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR REAL ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. AGENDA ITEM FIVE FIVE A WHICH IS I'D 26-1153. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT AND EXPENDITURE OF GENERAL FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRATEGIC PLAN BY THE MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE FOR THE 90TH 
          TEXAS LEGISLATURE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL JESSE KENT, THIS TIME AS THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. IN 2023, THE CROSS CARE COLLABORATIVE WAS CREATED AS A JOINT VENTURE OF THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH LEADERSHIP TEAM AND THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT ARE, A WORKGROUPS OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND LEADERS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS OF MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING ACROSS DENTON COUNTY. WHEN THE CROSS CARE COLLABORATIVE BEGAN LOOKING AT CHALLENGES AT THE INTERSECTION OF MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESSNESS, THEY FOUND THAT THERE WERE MANY ENFORCEMENT INTERACTIONS FOR LOW LEVEL CALLS, LOW LEVEL CHARGES, AND BOOKINGS RELATED TO CRIMINAL TRESPASS. ILLEGAL CANNABIS THINGS, THINGS THAT HAVE A LOW ACUITY. AND SO THIS SPRING, AFTER AFTER ALL THAT DIFFERENT WORK THAT'S DONE BY THOSE GROUPS, THE CROSS CARE COLLABORATIVE RECOMMENDED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A MENTAL HEALTH AND JAIL DIVERSION CENTER. AND WHAT THAT CENTER IS EXACTLY GOING TO BE IS BEING WORKED OUT RIGHT NOW BY THE CROSS COLLABORATIVE AND BY THE MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE. IF THEY, EXECUTE A CONTRACT TO HELP DEVELOP THAT. BUT THE, THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS IT'S A CENTRALIZED 24/7 FACILITY THAT'S DESIGNED TO REDIRECT ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AWAY FROM JAIL AND INTO SHORT TERM STABILIZATION AND COMMUNITY BASED SERVICES. AND WHAT THAT MEANS, PRACTICALLY, IS WHEN A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS MAKING AN ARREST FOR, FOR ONE OF THESE LOW LEVEL CRIMES, THEY'RE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, INSTEAD OF TAKING YOU TO JAIL, I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE JAIL DIVERSION CENTER WHERE WE CAN CONNECT YOU WITH RESOURCES AND TRY AND GET YOU THE HELP YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THE CYCLE OF GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN JAIL AND THESE DIFFERENT OFFENSES. THE TYPICAL LENGTH OF STAY AT THIS FACILITY RIGHT NOW IS IT'S BEING CONCEIVED IS AROUND SIX HOURS TO 11 DAYS, AND IT WILL PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES OF INTAKE, MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS, MEDICAL TRIAGE, CASE MANAGEMENT AND SERVICE NAVIGATION, AND THEN ALSO CREATING THOSE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS. WHAT'S BEEN ASKED OF THE CITY OF DENTON IS TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH LEADERSHIP TEAM AND THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP TEAM TO DEVELOP THE PILOT. THE COUNTY JUDGE LISTED THE CREATION OF A JAIL DIVERSION CENTER AS HIS LEADING ADVOCACY POLICY AGENDA ITEM FOR THIS UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THE MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE PROVIDED INITIAL QUOTE OF $75,000, OF WHICH THE COUNTY HAS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING $45,000 IN THE UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY, HAS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING $10,000. OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE ALSO MADE COMMITMENTS, AND OTHER HOSPITALS AND ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALSO COMMITTED TO JOINING THE COUNTY IN SUPPORTING THIS. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AN APPROVAL OF $10,000 TO SUPPORT THIS, THIS JOINT VENTURE OF, OF AGENCIES AND GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTY TO HELP IMPROVE MENTAL HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND GARY HENDERSON HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT AS WELL, IF COUNCIL 
          WOULD LIKE THAT. >> SURE. JUST BE SURE AND FILL OUT A BLUE CARD TO. YEAH, YEAH. 
          >> THANK YOU. JESSE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES AND PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS THAT YOU WOULD BE JOINING SHOULD YOU MAKE THIS DECISION. CERTAINLY DENTON COUNTY, UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY, CITY OF LEWISVILLE. TOWN OF LAKEWOOD VILLAGE MEDICAL CITY, ARGYLE. DENTON AND LEWISVILLE, TEXAS. HEALTH RESOURCES. RESTORATION. YOUTH AND FAMILY RECOVERY RESOURCE COUNCIL, TOWN OF BARTONVILLE. TOWN OF HICKORY CREEK AND AN ANONYMOUS DONOR ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONER BOBBY MITCHELL. SO WE WANT TO SEE, THE COMMUNITY COME FORTH SPONSORING THIS RFP TO HELP DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH LEADERSHIP TEAM, THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP TEAM, MUNICIPALITIES AND COMMISSIONERS COURT TO HELP ADVOCATE IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION FOR SUPPORT FUNDING. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
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          >> I SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. >> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT, NOT A QUESTION. 
          >> OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE SPEAKER? YES. 
          >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. JESSE, HOW HOW LONG? HOW LONG WILL THIS HOW LONG WILL THIS THE FUNDING 
          OF THIS PROJECT, HOW LONG WILL IT LAST? >> THE FUNDING OF THE PROJECT IS A ONE TIME COST EXPENDITURE FOR THE MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE, WHO IS RECOGNIZED AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AS A AS A LEADING THINKER IN. WHO SUPPORT WILL LEND TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT COMING TO DENTON COUNTY. SO IT'S ONE TIME EXPENDITURE IT'LL BE FOR THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND THAT'LL BE THE END OF THE FUNDS. YEAH, PLEASE. 
          >> WE'VE ASKED THE MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN BY NOVEMBER. SO WE'LL BE READY TO GO INTO THE 
          LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN JANUARY. >> OKAY. AND SO AND SO IT WILL TERMINATE AT THE END OF THE 
          LEGISLATIVE SESSION. >> ONCE THE DELIVERABLE IS PROVIDED, WHICH IS THE 
          STRATEGIC PLAN ASSESSMENT FOR THE JAIL DIVERSION CENTER. >> YEAH. JESSE AND MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE, ONE OF THEIR DELIVERABLES IS TO IS TO PROVIDE ADVOCACY SUPPORT IN AUSTIN DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO AT THE END OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHETHER THERE'S FUNDING APPROPRIATED INTO THE BIENNIUM BUDGET OR NOT, THEIR EFFORT 
          WITH US WOULD BE CONCLUDED. >> OKAY. SO I'M HEARING THAT THIS IS A VERY SHORT TERM EFFORT TO PROVIDE MENTAL MENTAL HEALTH CARE TO LOW LEVEL OFFENDERS. 
          >> IT IS TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITIES OF THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES. EFFORT TO 
          GET STATE FUNDING TO PROVIDE FOR THIS CENTER. >> AND MAKE. MAKE NO MISTAKE, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO SPEND OUR MONEY. I THINK THIS IS. I THINK THIS IS CRUCIAL. 
          I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WHAT HAPPENS IN JUNE, NEXT JULY, WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THIS CAN BE THAT CAN BE CONTINUED BEYOND THE END OF THE LEGISLATIVE 
          SESSION? AM I MISUNDERSTANDING? >> YEAH. >> THE EFFORT SHOULD I'LL MAKE SURE I'M REALLY CLEAR. THIS IS A STRATEGIC PLAN TO DEVELOP THE DIRECTION TO IMPLEMENT A JAIL AND MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION CENTER. IT'S NOT TO BEGIN THOSE SERVICES. SO THE EFFORT TO SECURE THE FUNDING, IF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN THE 90TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WE'LL GO 
          BACK IN 91. >> OKAY? OKAY. AND AND WERE A PERSON ARRESTED AND DETERMINED TO HAVE A MENTAL A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS WHERE PHYSICALLY WOULD THEY BE TAKEN. 
          >> IF THE ADVOCACY WERE SUCCESSFUL? THE COUNTY AND PARTNERS WERE TO SECURE FUNDING TO DEVELOP THE FACILITY. IT WOULD THEN BE BUILT. AND IN THAT CASE, THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD 
          BE TAKEN TO THE JAIL DIVERSION CENTER. >> THE COUNTY JAIL. 
          >> NOT NOT THE COUNTY JAIL. THE LOCATION OF THE JAIL DIVERSION CENTER IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD 
          BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS TO DEVELOP IT. >> OKAY. I'M I'M I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS KIND OF MENTAL HEALTH ON THE STREET TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, NOT, NOT JUST NOT JUST TILL THE END OF THE OF 
          THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. FIRST OFF, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I HEARD IT FIRST IN THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP TEAM MEETING IN APRIL. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE JAIL DIVERSION COME TO DENTON COUNTY. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I HAVE A SUGGESTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A STANDALONE BUILDING THAT IS MEANT TO, AGAIN, NOT TAKE PEOPLE TO JAIL, NOT TO CREATE THAT, TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE WHILE ALSO KEEPING PEOPLE'S RAP SHEETS, LIGHTENED SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET JOBS AND NOT HAVE THE STIGMA ATTACHED TO THEM. SO I'M GRATEFUL TO HEAR THAT THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE MEADOWS, TO HOPEFULLY GET THE FUNDING WE NEED, AND GET THAT ACROSS THE LEGISLATION. A QUESTION I DID HAVE, AND I HAVE, I HAD IN THAT MEETING, AND I HAVE STILL TODAY IS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY JAIL DIVERSION CENTERS THERE ARE IN COUNTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE 
          COUNTY HOSPITALS? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK 
          MEADOWS TO SPEAK INTO THAT. >> OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PRESENTATION, THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED DID NOT HAVE A COUNTY HOSPITAL ATTACHED. AND FOR ME, I THINK THAT IS A CART BEFORE THE HORSE MOMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AM VOTING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. A STEP IS A STEP. I 
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JUST THINK THAT IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE CONSCIOUS THAT ONE MAYBE FEEDS THE OTHER. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE FIVE MEDICAL RESPITE BEDS AVAILABLE IN DENTON AND YOU'RE BRINGING IN JAIL DIVERSION, WHERE DO THEY DIVERT TO WHEN THE FIVE BEDS ARE FULL? I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE PUSHING BOTH OF THOSE EFFORTS FORWARD. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO STRAY OFF TOPIC, SO I WILL STAY ON TOPIC. I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN COME PRESENT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN ALL KIND OF GET ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE VISION. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER JESTER. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND IF I CAN JUST TAKE A MINUTE, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH LEADERSHIP TEAM, UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY, THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS LEADERSHIP TEAM, DENTON COUNTY, AND JUDGE ANDY EADS, AS WELL AS THE MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE. AND WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT IS THAT I GET TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF PARTICIPATING, OF REPRESENTING OUR CITY AND OUR CITIZENS TO DONATE SOME OF THEIR TAX DOLLARS, A SMALL AMOUNT, A DROP IN THE BUCKET. HOWEVER, AN AMOUNT THAT WILL GO TOWARDS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND TRYING TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO HELP STOP THE REVOLVING DOOR OF THE JAIL SYSTEM. I THINK MENTAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH, COUNTY HOSPITAL, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, I KNOW THAT, I MEAN, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH YOU ALL IN AUSTIN AS WE ARE LOBBYING OUR LEGISLATORS. THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH AND ABSOLUTELY KNOW WE ARE LACKING HERE AND NEED VERY, VERY MUCH. SO, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS SMALL STEP. AND I JUST WANT TO, I KNOW ALL OF THE PEOPLE AND ALL OF THE TIME THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED FROM ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS TO EVEN GET TO TODAY. SO GOSH DARN IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. AND, IT'S A REAL AGAIN, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND I JUST WISH YOU ALL THE SUCCESS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BROADEN IT AND GROW IT, INTO SOMETHING THAT CAN CHANGE LIVES. SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL AND JUST WANTED 
          TO SAY THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER, YOU, 
          ARE LISTED AS MOVING. >> I'M PROUD TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. 
          >> COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR. >> THIS IS SUCH A WORTHY CAUSE. I SECOND. 
          >> YEAH, I WANT TO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. GARY. I WANT TO THANK YOU. I MEAN, THIS IS YEARS, DECADE IN THE MAKING. WHEN YES, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ORGANIZING THE DENTON COUNTY HOMELESSNESS LEADERSHIP TEAM AND WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A DECADE OR SO OR MORE. AND WE'VE SEEN THE IMPACT AS TIME HAS GONE BY AND IT'S CREATED MORE NEGATIVE OUTCOMES AND CONSEQUENCES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING, YOU KNOW, MENTAL ILLNESS. SO I SUPPORT THIS, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING HERE. 
          AND THAT IS WE'RE SIMPLY PROVIDING FUNDING TO HELP CREATE A STUDY THAT WILL IDENTIFY STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE TO THE LEGISLATURE TO TRY TO ASK FOR FUNDING IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THIS AND BUILDING THIS FACILITY. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE TRY IT AGAIN. WE WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN ALREADY IN PLACE. SO THEN IT JUST BECOMES A 
          MATTER OF FINDING THE PATHWAY TO IMPLEMENTATION. >> YES, MAYOR. ABSOLUTELY. IN THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SENATOR PARKER ATTEMPTED TO PLACE FUNDING IN THE STATE BUDGET FOR DENTON COUNTY DIVERSION CENTER, AND HIS OFFICE WAS TOLD BY THE TEXAS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION THAT A COMMUNITY NEEDED TO HAVE COMPLETED A STUDY BEFORE THEY WOULD SUPPORT HIS LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS. SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP. 
          COULD WE HAVE COMPLETED THIS STUDY LOCALLY WITH OUR OWN TALENT IN COUNTY? ABSOLUTELY. 
          HAVING MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH STATEWIDE REPUTATION, WE FEEL, JUST GIVES OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND STATE SENATORS A STRONGER APPEAL IN 
          THE NEXT SESSION TO SUPPORT US. >> FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE BOARD, PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. OKAY. YES, SHE'S STILL HERE. 
          OKAY. AND MR. CITY ATTORNEY, WE BASICALLY HAD SOMEONE WHO SIGN AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY WERE GIVEN TO SPEAK ON WAS INACCURATE. SO THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA. THEY, THEY WANT TO TAKE UP THEIR PLACE AS A, THE GO BACK TO THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ONE OPEN SPOT IN THE, IN THE OPEN. SO I'M GOING TO, BECAUSE THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS CONCLUDING ITEMS. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT LAST. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS PERSON 
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BECAUSE IT WAS SORT OF JUST BE HONEST, PROBABLY OUR MISTAKE AND WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BECAUSE WE DID HAVE ROOM AND WE JUST WEREN'T AWARE OF THE SITUATION. 
          SO IS IT CARLY WALKER IF YOU'LL COME DOWN AND SPEAK. YOU GOT STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE 
          FOUR MINUTES. THANK YOU. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS CARLY WALKER AND I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK. I DO APOLOGIZE TO THOSE THAT I GOT A LITTLE HEATED WITH. BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING WILLING TO HEAR ME OUT TODAY. I GREW UP IN THE DFW AREA. I HAVE BEEN A FAN OF DENTON MY ENTIRE LIFE. MY BROTHER HAS LIVED HERE SINCE HE WAS 18. I RECENTLY BOUGHT A HOME HERE THREE YEARS AGO. MY HUSBAND AND MY THREE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER LIVE WITH ME, AND I AM HERE TO ASK YOU TO REJECT ANY DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION OF ANY DATA CENTER IN DENTON INDEFINITELY. DENTON IS A BEAUTIFUL, LOVELY, THRIVING, DIVERSE COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. THE DATA ON DATA CENTERS IS CLEAR. THEY ARE HORRIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY ENTER. THEY POLLUTE DRINKING WATER, POLLUTING AIR QUALITY AND CREATING A HORRIFYING CONSTANT NOISE THAT CAN BE HEARD FROM MILES AWAY. 
          CLEAN WATER, CLEAN AIR AND MENTAL HEALTH ARE ESSENTIAL TO SURVIVAL. DATA CENTERS ARE NOT. 
          NO MATTER THE JOBS THEY BRING OR THE MONEY THEY MAKE, THEY WILL NEVER BE WORTH IT TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY I NEED. I NEVER NEED TO USE AI EVER IN MY LIFE. IT IS NOT ESSENTIAL, HOWEVER, CLEAN WATER, CLEAN AIR AND PEACE OF MIND ARE NECESSITIES FOR SURVIVAL. FOR NOT ONLY ME, BUT GENERATIONS TO COME. I NEVER NEED AN AI SUMMARY OR AI ART. MY BRAIN IS COMPLETELY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT ON MY OWN. MOREOVER, NO ONE WILL WANT TO COME TO DENTON. 
          DENTON IS AN AMAZING, BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE DO COME TO. WE HAVE AN AMAZING. WE'RE HALLOWEEN TOWN. PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND HANG OUT HERE AND WITH A DATA CENTER AND THE NOISE POLLUTION IT CREATES, NOBODY WILL WANT TO COME AND BE HERE. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR OUR BOTTOM LINE. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR DOLLARS AS WELL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO LISTEN TO THIS SOUND CONSISTENTLY FOR JUST DAYS AND DAYS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS ON END? I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU WOULD. AND IF YOU WOULD NOT VOTE TO HAVE A DATA CENTER DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOUSE, WHY ARE YOU THEN PUTTING THAT ON US? I RESPECTFULLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO, AND I DO AGREE WITH THE DECISION THAT YOU MADE TODAY IN YOUR COUNCIL AND YOUR SESSION, THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING MORE WORK TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR DENTON. AND MY POINT IS, WE ALREADY KNOW IT'S NOT. THERE'S NO MORE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT WE NEED TO KNOW. ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY OTHER STATES AND BY OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND THEY HAVE SHOWN TO US THAT DATA CENTERS ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE CITIES THAT THEY ENTER. SO I ASK YOU, DO YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THIS SOUND OVER AND 
          OVER AND OVER AGAIN? >> SO THIS IS COMPARABLE TO THIS BECAUSE I HEAR HER CENTER THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT OVER. DO YOU HEAR THAT VOICE IN THE IN THE BERTRAM? 
          >> THAT NOISE WILL NEVER GO AWAY. THAT NOISE WILL BE CONSISTENTLY RUNNING 24 HOURS A DAY FOR EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR AROUND THE DENTON AREA. SO I ASK YOU, IF YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A DATA CENTER. DON'T MAKE ME DO IT. MY CHILD DESERVES TO STAY IN TEXAS. 
          AND IF DATA CENTERS CONTINUE TO INVADE OUR COMMUNITIES, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO. I CAN'T LIVE HERE WITHOUT CLEAN WATER. I CAN'T LIVE HERE WITHOUT CLEAN AIR. AND SO THE ABILITY FOR US TO STAY IN THE HOME THAT WE BOUGHT, THAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN, RELIES ON YOU MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION FOR DENTON, NOT JUST FOR THIS YEAR, NOT JUST FOR OUR BOTTOM LINE THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, BUT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. WE HAVE NO IDEA IN 50 YEARS WHAT THE POLLUTION FROM THESE DATA CENTERS WILL DO. AND UNTIL WE KNOW THAT, WHY ARE WE WILLINGLY GIVING THAT MONEY TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T NEED IT? THEY'RE NOT CITIZENS OF DENTON. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I GENUINELY APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME COME AND SPEAK AT THE END. I KNOW THAT'S OUT OF DECORUM. SO, MAYOR, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION, 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TODAY. >> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. CURIOSITY. WERE YOU HERE THE LAST TIME? WERE YOU HERE AT ONE TIME? AND WE RAN OUT OF SPOTS? OKAY. SOMEBODY DID AND I DIDN'T KNOW. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE IT BRINGING BACK TO MY ATTENTION SO WE COULD MAKE SURE WE TREATED EVERYBODY. YOU BET. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONCLUDING ITEMS AGENDA ITEM SIX. SO OPEN IT UP 
          [6. CONCLUDING ITEMS]
TO COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR CONCLUDING ISLANDS COUNCIL MEMBER. OH. COUNCIL MEMBER 
          VILLARREAL. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. TONIGHT I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS THE NEWS I SHARED LAST WEEK. YOU KNOW, SERVING THIS COMMUNITY THIS PAST FEW MONTHS AS A CITY COUNCILMAN AND THE PAST FOUR YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER, HAS BEEN ONE OF THE GREATEST HONORS OF MY LIFE. I'VE BEEN PROUD TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF DISTRICT ONE, TO WORK ALONGSIDE MY COLLEAGUES, AND TO FIGHT FOR THE ISSUES 
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THAT MATTER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. THIS ROLE HAS GIVEN ME PURPOSE AND HAS CONNECTED ME TO SO MANY PEOPLE AND STORIES THAT I WILL CARRY WITH ME LONG AFTER TONIGHT. BUT I ALSO NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO SAY. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, I HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH MY MENTAL HEALTH SITUATION. I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH SEVERE DEPRESSION, SUICIDAL IDEATION, AND ALONGSIDE THAT, CHALLENGES WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE. THESE ARE NOT EASY WORDS TO SAY OUT LOUD, ESPECIALLY IN A SETTING LIKE THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THEY ARE NECESSARY. I HIT ROCK BOTTOM IN JUNE. MY ADDICTIONS AND MY DEPRESSION TOOK COMPLETE CONTROL, AND I REQUIRED A HOSPITAL STAY FOR A WEEK AND I WILL REQUIRE FURTHER TREATMENT BEFORE I'M BETTER. PUBLIC SERVICE OFTEN ASKS US TO SHOW STRENGTH AT ALL TIMES, TO KEEP GOING, TO CARRY THE WEIGHT. AND FOR A LONG TIME I CONVINCED MYSELF I COULD DO THAT WITHOUT ASKING FOR HELP. BUT THE TRUTH IS, I CAN'T SERVE THE COMMUNITY THE WAY IT DESERVES IF I'M NOT TAKING CARE OF MYSELF FIRST. THAT IS WHY I'VE DECIDED TO RESIGN MY POSITION ON THIS COUNCIL. THE DECISION WAS NOT MADE LIGHTLY. IT COMES WITH A LOT OF REFLECTION AND A LOT OF EMOTION. BUT IS THE RIGHT DECISION FOR MY HEALTH, FOR MY FAMILY AND ULTIMATELY FOR THE PEOPLE I WAS ELECTED TO SERVE. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS CLEARLY THERE IS NO SHAME IN STRUGGLING. 
          THERE'S NO SHAME IN SEEKING HELP. ONE OF MY POLITICAL HEROES, JASON KANDER, SPOKE PUBLICLY ABOUT HIS OWN BATTLE WITH DEPRESSION AND HIS DECISION TO STEP AWAY FROM PUBLIC LIFE TO GET TREATMENT. HIS EXAMPLE SHOWED ME THAT STEPPING BACK IS NOT FAILURE. 
          IT DOES TAKE COURAGE. IF THERE'S ANYONE WATCHING THIS, IF SOMEONE WHO SEES A PIECE OF THEMSELVES IN WHAT I'M SAYING TONIGHT, I WANT YOU TO HEAR ME. YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT BY YOURSELF. HELP OUT THERE. TREATMENT WORKS, AND TAKING THAT FIRST STEP CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING. TO MY COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND YOUR PATIENCE. THE STAFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK KEEPING THE CITY RUNNING EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT ONE, THANK YOU FOR TRUSTING ME, FOR HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE, AND FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. I AM STEPPING AWAY FROM THIS ROLE, BUT I'M NOT STEPPING AWAY FROM THIS COMMUNITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO BE A PART OF IT, JUST IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND IN A HEALTHIER PLACE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMEMBER FERRY. >> THANK YOU. RUNNING FOR OFFICE IS REALLY HARD. A LOT OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE ARE NODDING YOUR HEAD. YEAH, IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD. I CHALLENGE YOU THOUGH. YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU KNOW. SO TO SPEND 6 TO 8 MONTHS OF YOUR LIFE GIVING EVERYTHING YOU HAVE. SORRY TO WANT TO MAKE CHANGE BECAUSE YOU CARE IS BOTH NOBLE AND COURAGEOUS TO PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE, TO BE JUDGED, TO BE RIDICULED, TO BE QUESTIONED CONSTANTLY, I MET JORDAN A DECADE AGO. THERE'S A PHOTO OF US IN AUSTIN FOR THE KNOT IN AUSTIN IN FORT WORTH. EXCUSE ME. THE. THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION, THAT I HAVE THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THE OTHER DAY. AND I REMEMBER IT WELL AS WE SERVED ON STONEWALL DEMOCRATS OF DENTON COUNTY TOGETHER. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A JOB. AND WE ARE PEOPLE, WE ARE NEIGHBORS AND WE ARE FRIENDS. AND I CARE ABOUT YOU DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT'S BEST FOR YOU. AND I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY HERE TO SUPPORT YOU. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE TIME YOU'VE SERVED AND I, I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE. MY PHONE IS ALWAYS ON. I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR DENTON, FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE STATE. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO I LOVE YOU AND I 
          WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST FRIEND. THANKS. >> MAYOR PRO TEM STEPHENS. 
          >> THANK YOU. MAYOR. TWO THINGS. ONE UNRELATED, AS I WAS WALKING IN TONIGHT, EVA GRECO, SHE HAD MENTIONED TO ME THAT TOMORROW IS HER TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF BEING IN DENTON. AND SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR TEN YEARS. OFTEN OVER THAT TIME PERIOD, WE HAVE BEEN UP HERE YELLING FROM THAT PODIUM RIGHT THERE. AND, IT'S, IT'S JUST AN HONOR TO KNOW YOU 
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TO LIVE A FEW HOUSES DOWN FROM YOU. SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'VE CHOSEN THIS PLACE TO CONTINUE TO BE YOUR HOME FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME. I WANT TO ECHO ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER FERRY'S REMARKS ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL. I WISH I HAD AS GOOD OF A STORY AS YOU DO. ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEMBER. UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES I SAY EVERYTHING THAT I MEAN, EVEN WHEN I SHOULDN'T. 
          AND SO I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT HOW COUNCIL MEMBER VILLARREAL'S RELATIONSHIP WITH ME STARTED. 
          IT WAS NOT GOOD. WE HATED EACH OTHER. AND BECAUSE A COUNCIL MEMBER, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER MCGEE. IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, YOU CALLED ME UP AND USED SOME EXPLETIVES THAT YOU NEEDED TO USE AND SAID, GET OVER YOURSELF. WE'RE GOING TO GRAB, SOME TIME TOGETHER AND TALK THE THREE OF US. AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU DID THAT. I'LL FAST FORWARD TO THE DAY OF THE SWEARING IN CEREMONY. WE HAD OUR FIRST JORDAN AND I HAD OUR FIRST MOMENT TOGETHER AT AN ORIENTATION, AND AFTERWARDS I REPEATED SOMETHING I FEEL LIKE I'VE REPEATED TO HIM A FEW TIMES THAT I WAS SORRY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM, THAT HE IS ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET, AND I WILL CHALLENGE ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THAT SENTIMENT. I'VE NEVER KNOWN SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED THEIR OFF AS MUCH AS JORDAN HAS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I'M GRATEFUL FOR HIM. AND TONIGHT AND HIS REMARKS ONLY FURTHER REEMPHASIZE THAT, WHICH IS THAT HE IS ONE OF AND I SAID IT A FEW DAYS AGO, ONE OF THE BRAVEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER KNOWN IN MY LIFE. AND SO I HOPE YOU COME BACK. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND I WILL CONTINUE TO APOLOGIZE FOR HOW WRONG I WAS ABOUT YOU BECAUSE I AM SO GRATEFUL TO CONSIDER YOU ONE OF MY FRIENDS, GENUINELY. 
          >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. >> MEMBER VILLARREAL. I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW HOW VERY, VERY IMPRESSED I AM WITH WITH YOU AND YOUR THE AMOUNT OF GUMPTION THAT THAT MUST HAVE TAKEN TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK IF I WERE, IF I WERE IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT I COULD MUSTER UP THAT AMOUNT OF COURAGE AND, AND SAY THOSE WORDS. SO, GODSPEED. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU. MAYOR, I WANT TO, I WANT TO MENTION, A LADY THAT I DID NOT KNOW. HER NAME WAS ISABELLA GONZALEZ. BY MY RECOLLECTION, BY MY CALCULATION, SHE WAS ABOUT 19 YEARS OLD. SHE WAS KILLED IN ACTION ON JULY 17TH. MISS GUNN, PARDON ME. PRIVATE FIRST CLASS GONZALEZ WAS WAS RAISED IN CARROLLTON, AND UPON GRADUATION FROM HIGH SCHOOL, SHE JOINED THE UNITED STATES ARMY, WHERE SHE ROSE TO THE RANK OF PRIVATE FIRST CLASS. SHE WAS STATIONED IN IN ANSBACH, GERMANY, AND. SHE JOINS A LONG LINE OF OF UNIFORMED PATRIOTS. THAT THAT GAVE THEIR LIFE IN DEFENSE OF OUR COUNTRY. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A VERY, VERY NOBLE THING FOR A PERSON OF ANY AGE, OF ANY GENDER TO DO. AND I DID NOT KNOW HER. I WISH I KNEW HER, I PEACE TO HER FAMILY. HER BURIAL WAS THIS PAST SUNDAY AT THE DALLAS FORT WORTH NATIONAL CEMETERY. THANK 
          YOU, THANK. >> YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER 
          RUMOHR. >> COUNCILMEMBER VILLARREAL. I ALSO WANTED TO ECHO THAT I AM DEEPLY IMPRESSED BY YOUR BRAVERY IN SHARING THAT, AND THAT HELPS OTHER PEOPLE WHEN WHEN WE SHARE THOSE KINDS OF THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SHARED THAT. I HOPE THAT, THAT YOU FIND QUICK RECOVERY, AND THAT YOU DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF DENTON. I RECOGNIZE, I ECHO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER FERRY SAID THAT CAMPAIGNING IS HARD WORK AND TO DO ALL OF THAT AND HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT A PAUSE ON IT SO QUICKLY, BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT, THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE FURTHER ON DOWN THE ROAD. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. MOVING ON TO SOME CITY STUFF. I, I WANT TO THANK THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THEY GAVE ME A TOUR. 
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I LEARNED THAT WE'VE GOT JUST TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE MANAGING $900 MILLION WORTH OF INVESTMENTS FOR THE CITY. AND, WE'VE GOT STAFF THAT ARE DEALING WITH CONSTANT CHANGES IN HOW, IN REGULATIONS AND HOW WE REPORT FINANCES. SO I REALLY APPRECIATED LEARNING ABOUT WHAT THE CITY'S GOT GOING ON IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE GOT THE ANIMAL SHELTER GROUNDBREAKING THIS WEDNESDAY ON AUGUST 12TH AT 9 A.M. SO THAT'S THE, THE ANIMAL SHELTER EXPANSION AND RENOVATIONS. AND LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY WAS, MISS INTERIM CITY MANAGER SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, YOU LET US KNOW THAT YOU WERE FIRST BORN. YOU'RE MOVING YOUR FIRST BORN INTO COLLEGE TOMORROW AND YOU SAID TO BRING TISSUES. SO WE BROUGHT YOU SOME TISSUES. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER WROTE A LITTLE A LITTLE NOTE ON THE TISSUE BOX AS WELL. SO GOOD LUCK TOMORROW. CASSEY. THANK YOU. 
          >> COUNCIL MEMBER. JESTER. >> I WON'T SAY MUCH. I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHERS HERE, BUT I ALSO DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK I DIDN'T CARE BECAUSE I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T SPEAK. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, I LEFT YOU A VOICEMAIL AS SOON AS I HEARD, AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT AND JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT ALONE AND YOU'RE NOT ALONE WITH, THOSE STRUGGLES AND, THAT I APPRECIATE YOU AND THAT YOU'RE LOVED. AND THAT'S ALL. AND, I DID REMIND CASSEY MY NOTE WAS TO USE THE THREE ONE APP, 311 APP FOR A GLASS OF WINE IF NEEDED. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR 
          INDULGING ME. AND, AGAIN, YOU'RE NEVER ALONE. THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY. 
          JUST SOME WORDS TO YOU. I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST MET YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THIS AS A STATE OF THE CITY AT THE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. AND I THOUGHT, AND THIS IS A BRIGHT, SMART YOUNG MAN, FULL OF LIFE, FULL OF ENERGY. AND AS TIME GOES ON, WE GOT INTO SOME SITUATIONS. WE GOT A LITTLE CROSSWAYS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S OKAY. AND THEN AS YOU WERE RUNNING AND AS WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER, I THINK WE BOTH SET THAT ASIDE. AND I TELL YOU, THAT TAKES, MATURITY, RESPECT, AND JUST BEING A GOOD PERSON. SO I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART THAT WHAT YOU DID TONIGHT, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE COURAGE THAT IT MUST TAKE. AND, YOU KNOW, I AM HOPEFUL FOR YOU BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE MAKING A DECISION FOR YOURSELF AND FOR YOUR WELL-BEING, AND TO BE ABLE TO EXHIBIT THE COURAGE THAT YOU DID TONIGHT IN FRONT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE RECORDED AND ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS, IT REPRESENTED A DEEP LOVE FOR YOU TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO GET WHAT YOU NEED. AND I REALLY PRAY THAT FOR YOU, JORDAN. I REALLY HOPE THAT, AND I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT YOU WILL AND YOU WILL HAVE, NUMBER ONE, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE TOUCHED PEOPLE'S LIVES JUST ALREADY WITH THAT SPEECH. WHEN PEOPLE HEAR IT, THEY WILL KNOW THAT THEY CAN MUSTER THE COURAGE AS WELL. SO I WISH YOU THE BEST. I CALLED YOU PERSONALLY WHEN I HEARD IT AND WE TALKED AND I AND YOU'VE GOT MY NUMBER ANYTIME YOU NEED WHATEVER. BUT I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED HERE TONIGHT. BECAUSE TO DO THIS IS, A SIGN OF JUST TREMENDOUS SELF RESPECT AND A COMMITMENT TO MOVE FORWARD AND A COMMITMENT TO YOUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, JORDAN, FOR YOUR EXAMPLE, FOR YOUR EXAMPLE, THAT I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THE GREATEST SERVICE THAT YOU'VE DONE TO THIS COMMUNITY SO FAR FOR THIS COMMUNITY SO FAR IS THE COURAGE YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU'RE ENCOURAGING OTHER PEOPLE LOVE YOURSELF. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO BECAUSE YOU CAN COME BACK STRONGER THAN EVER. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT EXAMPLE. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? AND I JUST JORDAN, JUST GOD BLESS YOU. OKAY. WE WILL CONCLUDE THIS MEETING AND ADJOURN AT
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.