>> I'M ABOUT TO GET STARTED. >> OKAY. >> SORRY. NO WORRIES.
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>> I'VE BEEN TRYING TO. >> CALL MY SON ALL MORNING. OF COURSE HE.
>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE. IT'S 1001.
WE'LL GET STARTED. THE FIRST ITEM IS CITIZEN COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY
[A MC26-014 Receive nominations and elect a Committee Chair and Vice-Chair.]
CARDS TO SPEAK. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO. A RECEIVE NOMINATIONS AND ELECT A COMMITTEE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. SO THIS HAS TO BE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR HAVE TO BE COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND SO I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO TAKE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR. WE'LL START WITH CHAIR.AND THEN ONCE WE SELECT A CHAIR, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO VICE CHAIR. SO I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR
FOR NOMINATIONS OF A CHAIR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, YOU ARE MOST SENIOR ON THIS COMMITTEE, SO I'M GOING TO CHECK WITH YOU IF YOU ARE
INTERESTED, BUT I KNOW YOU CHAIR OTHER COMMITTEES. >> I DO, BUT I WOULD I WOULD
LIKE THIS COMMITTEE. I WOULD I WOULD DO THAT GRATEFULLY. >> WELL, I'M HAPPY TO TO
NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND. >> FOR CHAIR. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, MISS BIN.
>> I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR, BUT WE COULD ALSO, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE OPEN TO, I GUESS I COULD FIND OUT FIRST OR VICE CHAIR, IF IF YOU HAVE A
PREFERENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OKAY TO ASK. >> NO, I'M HAPPY TO TO VOTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER. HOLLAND FOR. FOR CHAIR. GIVEN HOW LONG? HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SEVERAL YEARS
FOR YOU? YEAH. >> I'M SENIOR ON A LOT OF THINGS.
>> SO I GUESS WHAT I'LL SAY IS I'LL. >> DECLINE THE NOMINATION FOR
CHAIR. YEAH. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE, WE'LL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND AS CHAIR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLAND, YOU AND I WILL SWITCH. AND YOU CAN YOU CAN RUN THE VICE CHAIR NOW.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THEN I WOULD OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN. AND I'D LIKE TO ADVISE TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR.
>> I'LL ACCEPT. >> ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS. SEEING NONE, I CLOSE THE CLOSE THE THE THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS AND THOSE IN FAVOR OF COUNCIL MEMBER RUMOHR SERVING AS VICE CHAIR. PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? SAY NO. NO. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. CONGRATULATIONS. DID I? I DIDN'T MEAN TO. I THINK IT STILL CARRIED. OKAY. SO WE'RE
[B. MC26-015 Consider approval of the minutes of April 29, 2026.]
AT SEA. IS THAT CORRECT? >> BE. >> OH, OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL. BC26-015. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 29TH
MEETING. DO I HEAR A MOTION? >> I MOTION TO APPROVE. >> VERY GOOD. AND A SECOND.
I'LL SECOND. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? THANK YOU. OKAY. CMC26-016. REPEAT. RECEIVE A REPORT AND HOLD A
[C. MC26-016 Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the City of Denton Transportation/Mobility Project Status Report. [Estimated Presentation Time: 30 minutes]]
DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY OF DENTON TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY STATUS REPORT, PLEASE.GOOD MORNING. ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US. >> I GET A LOT OF SKILL SETS, BUT COMPUTERS AREN'T ONE OF THEM. OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS. WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT INTO THAT INFORMATION FAIRLY QUICKLY AS WE AS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WE'RE CHASING. SO NOT A SMALL AMOUNT. 35 NORTH WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S THEY INCLUDED ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT IS BEING VOTED ON TODAY. WILL BE MORE NEWS ON THAT IN A MOMENT. SO EACH OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE THEIR OWN LIFE CYCLE DEPENDING UPON THEIR UTILITIES. AND THAT DATES THAT WE ANTICIPATE ARE EITHER THIS MONTH OR ALL THE WAY OUT TO JUNE OF 2027. BUT THAT'S ABOUT A NINE MONTH PERIOD. AND IN TEXTILE TIMES, THAT'S ABOUT 15 MINUTES. SO.
>> LIKE DOG MINUTES. >> YEAH. DOG YEARS, PEOPLE YEARS, HIGHWAY YEARS. SO THIS IS JUST TELLING YOU WHERE WE ARE ON ALL THE UTILITIES WANT TO GET TO 35 W HERE IN A SECOND.
THIS IS A BREAKOUT VIEW ROAD. THIS IS AN ACTUAL PROJECT THAT WAS LET IN AUGUST. AND IT'S THAT SECTION JUST NORTH OF SANGER. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO GAMBLE, IT'S GOING TO BE
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DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH THERE FOR A WHILE. AND THAT JUST TELLS YOU WHAT THEY'RE DOING.THE MERGE, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MERGE. WE HAVE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC CHANGES AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC CHANGES. THE DIRECT THE GREAT BRAIDED RAMP THAT I KEPT TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY WHAT THE BRAIDED RAMP WAS, IS NOW OPEN. I'M NOT SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT GETS YOU TO 380 STILL AND THERE'S STILL PROBLEMS THERE. BUT THIS PROJECT WILL BE GOING ON TILL 2030. AND RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE NIGHTLY LANE CLOSURES. SO IT'S WORSE TO BE THERE AT NIGHT THAN IT IS DURING THE DAY BECAUSE YOU GET LITERALLY STOPPED. MAYHILL. YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GOT THE BRAIDED RAMP THAT'S BEING BUILT JUST NORTH OF BRINKER BETWEEN BRINKER AND 288. THAT'S SO THAT THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES FROM EXITING NORTH OF MAYHILL TO BRINKER, IF THEY GO TO THE LIGHT, THEN WHEN THEY GO CONTINUE NORTH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. 288 THEY'LL BE AFRAID TO GET THEM UP AND ONTO THE FREEWAY. AND THE TRAFFIC THAT WANTS TO GO FROM MAYHILL TO THE FREEWAY WILL BYPASS BRINKER ON A BRIDGE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ENTER THE FREEWAY. SO YOU'LL START TO SEE MORE AND MORE STRUCTURES COME ONLINE. THE.
THE THING TO LOOK AT ON THIS REPORT EACH TIME IS PLANS FOR CHANGES IN TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
AND SO THE FULL CLOSURE. STARTED, I GUESS WHAT YESTERDAY. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED TILL OCTOBER. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO GET BUCKY'S NUGGETS, YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE THE U-TURNS FOR A WHILE. NOW THE GOOD NEWS TODAY THE HIGHWAY COMMISSION IS MEETING ITEM SEVEN. ON THE AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN, AND THAT UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN INCLUDES FUNDING FOR ALL OF THESE SECTIONS OF 35 W FROM ALLRED, NORTH OF ALLRED, ALLRED.
ROBESON RANCH, OLD DENTON, 407 DENTON CREEK, AND 1171 IN THE FRONTAGE ROADS. IN BETWEEN ALL OF THOSE AND THEN SOUTH OF 1171. SO IT'S WHEN IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY THIS NUMBER HAS BEEN UPDATED.
IT'S MORE LIKE 550 MILLION INSTEAD OF THE 492. BUT THAT'S JUST GOTTEN UPDATED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. BUT THAT'S 552 IS IN THE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN. SO IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES OR SO, WHEN THEY APPROVE THE UTP, THEY DIDN'T GET ANY COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS ITEM. SO THEY'LL ADOPT IT. THE JUDGE IS DOWN THERE THANKING THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW. SO WE'LL HAVE THIS FUNDED.
AND THE NEXT THING, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON YOUR REPORT IS TAKE THIS ONE PROJECT SHEET, AND WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT OUT INTO ALLRED, DENTON CREEK, I MEAN OLD DENTON. 407, ALL OF THE ALL THE INTERCHANGES, AND THEY'LL BE STANDALONE PROJECTS. AND WHAT HAPPENS AS SOON AS THE UTP IS APPROVED IS THEY WILL LET ANY PART OF THIS SECTION OF ROAD THAT GETS THROUGH THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS THAT WILL START REPORTING TO YOU LIKE WE'RE DOING ON THE OTHER PROJECTS FIRST. SO NOW THE BLUE SECTION IS AHEAD OF THE RED SECTION BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE UTILITIES LONGER ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE THEY HAD FUNDING FOR IT FOR A LONGER TIME. BUT ANY SECTION THAT HAS UTILITIES THAT WE CAN GET RELOCATED, THE COMMISSION HAS SAID THEY WILL MOVE THAT PROJECT TO WHATEVER DATE WE CAN HIT. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN YEAR FOUR, THE TEN YEAR PLAN, IT'S IN YEAR FOUR, THE TEN YEAR PLAN, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TOLD THEM WHEN WE THINK THE UTILITIES WILL BE RELOCATED, AS SOON AS WE GET THE UTILITIES, THEY THEY'LL MOVE IT TO THE RIGHT. LET DATE. SO 500 MILLION ISH PLUS OR -50 MILLION AND
WE'RE OFF TO THE RACES. >> GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM. >> IS THE BREAKING.
>> IT UP JUST BECAUSE OF. WE KNOW THAT SOME UTILITY RELOCATIONS WILL BE DONE BEFORE OTHERS. OR ARE THERE OTHER REASONS FOR BREAKING THIS UP INTO MULTIPLE.
>> WELL, IT'S EASIER TO GET BETTER BIDS ON SMALLER PROJECTS, AND THERE'S NO REASON IF, SAY, ROBESON RANCH INTERCHANGE HAS ITS OWN UTILITY, IF IT'S READY TO GO BECAUSE THE UTILITIES ARE DONE, THERE'S NO REASON TO WAIT ON 1171 OR ALLRED. SO THERE'S A VALUE TO LOWER BID COSTS, AND
THERE'S NO REASON TO WAIT IF YOU'VE GOT THE PROJECT READY. >> SURE. SO IT'S LIKE A MIX OF
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SEQUENCING AND VALUE OF BIDS SORT OF, OR HAVING WE WOULD HAVE MORE BIDS IF IT'S SMALLERPROJECTS. >> YES. YOU ALWAYS HAVE MORE BIDS. IF IT'S A SMALLER PROJECT, THE THE MERGE PROJECT WOULD JUST WENT OVER IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE. IT WAS A $500 MILLION
JOB. WE GOT TWO BIDDERS. YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. AND WE GOT HOSED ON THAT PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THAT. ANY OTHER.
>> QUESTIONS SO FAR? >> OH SORRY. >> IS THIS IS THIS AN UNUSUALLY
LONG PROJECT? >> IT'S NOT THE LONGEST I'VE DONE. THE LONGEST I'VE DONE WAS FROM 330 TO 635 IN DALLAS ON THE 35 JOB, SO THAT WHEN IT WAS GOING, THAT WAS A 30 MILE LONG PROJECT. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THE LONGEST PROJECT IN AN URBANIZED AREA IN THE COUNTRY
AT THE TIME. WOW. SO THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD. >> FIVE MILES.
>> OH, NO. WHAT THIS? FIVE MONTHS? WHAT. >> FIVE MILES?
>> OH, I DON'T. >> KNOW, FIVE MILES? IT'S NOT MONTHS.
>> IT'S ABOUT THAT FAR ON THE MAP. I CAN GET YOU THE. I CAN GET YOU THE LIMIT.
>> THAT'S OKAY. I JUST. >> WANTED YOU FIGURE FROM COUNTY LINE TO DENTON IS 15 MILES, SO IT'S PROBABLY EIGHT, TEN MILES. OKAY. RIGHT. ROUGHLY. BUT NO, IT'S NOT. AND IT'LL BE CONSTITUENT INDIVIDUAL PIECES ANYWAY, SO IT WON'T ABOUT THE TIME YOU GET RELIEF ON ONE PART, WE'RE GOING TO BREAK ANOTHER PART. SO IT'LL BE TRAUMATIC FOR A WHILE. 288 WE ARE NOW WORKING WITH TXDOT. THE COUNTY IS TO LOOK AT MAYBE FINDING THE NORTHERN OR SOUTHERN PART OF THE 288 SECTION, WHERE WE'RE STILL SHORT PARCELS, AND SEE IF THE COUNTY CAN DONATE FUNDS TO THE STATE TO IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO ONCE, BECAUSE THIS NEW LOCATION, IF WE CAN GET THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE PROJECT ESSENTIALLY BECOMES READY TO LET BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY UTILITIES TO RELOCATE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN'T BITE OFF A CHUNK OF THIS ROAD BY BUYING WHATEVER THE REMAINING PARCELS ARE, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY A THERE'S WHAT, 20 PARCELS TO BE ACQUIRED. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY BUSINESS ON SOME OF OUR STATE ROADS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE HOLDUP FOR TEXAS TECH SITE WENT FROM IN 2022 ISH, BECAUSE IT OVERLAPS BECAUSE THEIR YEARS OVERLAP, FISCAL YEARS OVERLAP THE YEARS FROM THEY HAD A BUDGET OF 400 MILLION, BUT ALL THE OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE WERE NOT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY. SO THE DALLAS DISTRICT ALWAYS EXCEEDED THEIR BUDGET. SO IN 22, THEY BOUGHT $800 MILLION WORTH OF RIGHT OF WAY. SO WHEN WE GOT THEM READY TO ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEARED, THEY WENT STRAIGHT INTO BUYING RIGHT OF WAY FOR US ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS BECAUSE WE GET THE RIGHT OF WAY AND UTILITIES DONE, THEN WE'RE READY TO LET. AND THEN WE WERE. THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO GET MORE PROJECTS FUNDED IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA THAN OTHER PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND GET THEM READY, NOT KNOWING WHERE THE MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION WAS COMING IN 2022, THREE ISH SPLITS OVER THE YEARS, IT WENT DOWN TO 500 MILLION. AND IN 2024 ISH, THEY WERE TOLD THEY HAD 330 MILLION, BUT THEY HAD TO HOLD BACK 10%. SO IT WAS LIKE 320 THAT THEY HAD. AND THEN THIS PARTICULAR THIS YEAR, THEIR BUDGET IS 195. SO THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE PROJECTS THEY HAVE FUNDED IN THE FOUR YEAR WINDOW. SO DENTON COUNTY AND OTHER COUNTIES WERE GETTING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY BUSINESS, GIVING THEM THE MONEY, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO GO INTO DESIGN ON A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS. AND THERE'S NO REASON TO GO INTO DESIGN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GET IT READY TO LET BY GETTING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND UTILITIES RELOCATED. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A PIVOT TO A. QUOTE, ROSS GELLER PIVOT. GOOD.
>> SORRY. YEAH, YEAH. >> UNCULTURED. OKAY. LUKE 288 EAST AND 380 CONNECTOR. IT'S ACTUALLY THE NORTH SECTION. I'M GONNA HAVE THEM CHANGE THAT. WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. WE ARE TECH SIDE HAS ASKED US TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT SHORTENING SOME OF OUR RAMP CONFIGURATIONS, MINIMIZING THE IMPACT TO THE MAIN LANES SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE DISCRETE PIECES OF FRONTAGE ROADS THEY CAN BUILD WITHOUT HAVING TO REALLY IMPACT A LOT OF THE EXISTING FACILITY. SO WE GAVE THEM AN ULTIMATE DESIGN. THEY LIKE IT, BUT THEY WANT US TO COME IN AND BREAK UP INTERIM CHUNKS SO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PROJECT AND THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO START PUTTING FRONTAGE ROADS IN BASICALLY FROM ABOUT SHERMAN DRIVE EAST IS THEIR FIRST PREFERENCE, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE BE FROM LOCUST TO SHERMAN, AND THE LAST WILL BE
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FROM LOCUST OVER TO BONNIE BRAE. SO WE'RE THE COUNTY IS COVERING THE COST, SO WE'RE BACKING UP, GIVING THEM BREAKOUT PACKETS SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE THOSE BREAKOUT PACKETS AND TRY TO GETTHEM FUNDED. >> JOHN, IS THIS ELEVATED? >> IT'S IT'S ELEVATED AT THE CROSS STREETS. THE DIRECT CONNECT FROM 380 UP AND OVER TO 288 IS. BUT ALL WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IN THE INTERIM IS GOING TO BE PUTTING FRONTAGE ROADS ON WHERE WE CAN. SO IT WILL BE GRADE SEPARATED AT THE MAIN CROSS STREETS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T ACCESS 288 IF YOU DON'T ACCESS IT FROM A MAJOR STREET. KING ROAD, SHERMAN LOCUST, BONNIE BRAE. SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT INTERCHANGES WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY ON THOSE CURRENT CROSS STREETS. WE'RE MOVING KING ROAD OVER TO WINDSOR BECAUSE IT'S A BETTER ACCESS POINT. AND SO THE KING ROAD PEOPLE WILL GO INSTEAD OF IF THEY WANT TO GO NORTH, THEY'LL GO ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE, MAKE A U-TURN AND COME BACK NORTH. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CROSS BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING THAT INTERCHANGE AT WINDSOR, BECAUSE KING ROAD CROSSED AT THE DIAGONAL AT A SKEW AND WINDSOR, WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT ON THE 90S. SO EVERYWHERE THAT THERE IS A MAJOR CROSS STREET, WE ARE GOING TO GRADE SEPARATE, AND THOSE THAT AREN'T GRADE SEPARATED WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CROSS OVER. THEY'LL HAVE TO COME TO THE NEXT CROSS STREET AND COME BACK TO ACT LIKE A FREEWAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 380 ULTIMATELY IS A FREEWAY. 288 SHOULD BE WE'VE BEEN PLANNING IT TO HAVE FRONTAGE ROADS FOR YEARS NOW. WE'RE GETTING TO IT, AND THEN WE'RE THE 288 SECTION FROM 35 AROUND TO 35 W THAT'S A FREEWAY SECTION WITH DIRECT CONNECTIONS AT 35 AND 35 W, AND THEN 380 OUT TO THE WEST IS PROBABLY GOING TO STAY A RURAL FREEWAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BUT THERE'S A LOT GOING OUT. WE ALL KNOW BECAUSE IT'S Y'ALL'S CITY.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON OUT THERE. THIS IS A SUBSET WE PULL OUT AS A SUBSET OF THE PROJECT, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAD THIS AS BONNIE BRAE SEVEN, BUT COG AND COUNCIL RTC, WHICH I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT IN A SECOND. RTC IS COMMITTED TO FUND THIS PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE INCLUDING IT IN THE 288 PROJECT. 1515 THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE THE. RIGHT OF WAY IS COMPLETED. WE'VE GOT SOME UTILITY RELOCATIONS THAT ARE GOING UNTIL 2027. THESE RIGHT OF WAY, I MEAN, THESE UTILITY RELOCATIONS AREN'T IMPACTING THE PROJECT BECAUSE UTILITY RELOCATIONS GET PAID OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY BUDGET. BUT THESE ARE ALL. NON COMPENSABLE. SO IT DOESN'T HIT THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE STILL PUSHING THEM TO MOVE THE UTILITY. SO COME DECEMBER 2027 STARTING WHEN WE KNOW FOR SURE WE'RE GOING TO HIT THAT MARK SOMETIME IN 2027.
WE'RE GOING TO START PUSHING THE STATE TO FIND THE MONEY TO DO THIS THIS WIDENING BECAUSE IT'S THEY'RE GOING TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? ONE OF TWO THINGS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF IS THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF THE COST OF BECOMING LOWER THAN WHAT THEY ANTICIPATED. SO THEY HAD MONEY AVAILABLE. SO THEY WENT AROUND LOOKING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE READY. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT 377 ARGYLE PUT IN THAT JUST LET A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND WE GOT A PROJECT IN ROCKWALL. EXPEDITED FROM 28 TO TO JUNE OF 27 BECAUSE THEY HAD A HOLE IN THEIR, IN THEIR LETTING CYCLE BECAUSE THAT PROJECT DIDN'T MAKE. SO WE'RE FAIRLY CONFIDENT SINCE THIS IS A CLEAN PROJECT THAT STARTING IN FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE PUTTING OUR HAT IN THE HOPPER FOR WHEN PROJECTS DROP OUT ELSEWHERE.
THAT THIS WILL BE A CLEAN JOB TO PICK UP. 1173 HAS GOT A LITTLE BIT LONGER LEEWAY. THERE IS RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES THAT WE STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE GOT MOST OF THEM RESOLVED. WE THINK THE. WE'LL HAVE THE UTILITIES DONE BY MARCH OF NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME WORK WE HAVE TO DO IN. CRUM AT 156. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON. BUT AGAIN, IT IT IS NOT AS HIGH A PRIORITY AS 1515 AS FAR AS THE VOLUMES THAT DRIVE ON IT, BUT IT IS A PRETTY HIGH PRIORITY PROJECT FOR AS FAR AS I KNOW FROM Y'ALL, BECAUSE Y'ALL KEPT ASKING US TO CHASE IT DOWN. SO THIS WILL BE SIMILAR BOAT SOMETIME NEXT YEAR AS WELL. OKAY, THIS IS THE
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OUTER LOOP. THIS ARE THESE ARE THE I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MORE THAN TWO, BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO ALTERNATIVES. THERE'S THE SOUTHERN AND THE NORTHERN ALTERNATIVE. THE SOUTHERN ALTERNATIVE IS THE TECHNICALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. AND WE ARE ABOUT A MONTH AWAY. YEAH, ABOUT A MONTH AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO, FROM A FEDERAL STANDPOINT, DECLARE THE SOUTHERN ALTERNATIVE IS ALSO THE, THE LOCALLY AND TECHNICALLY PREFERRED. SO BOTH OF THEM MATCH. SO AUBRY AND EVERYBODY TO THE EAST, ALL THEIR THOROUGHFARE PLANS MATCH THE PURPLE OR WHATEVER THAT COLOR IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COLOR THAT IS. THERE'S ONLY FIVE COLORS. AND THEN WE GO BLUE TO MILAM. THERE'S A BIG RANCH OUT THERE AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT. THOSE FOLKS TO TELL US WHETHER THEY WANT US TO GO BEHIND THEIR HOUSE OR IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. IT'S WE'RE AMBIVALENT. THEY JUST GOT TO LET US KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.AND THEN WE TIE INTO MILAM. WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH TXDOT BECAUSE TXDOT IS ALREADY BUILDING THAT SECTION OF ROAD THERE, AND WE NEED THEM TO EXPAND ONE OF THE SPANS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE SO THAT WE CAN HIT WHERE WE NEED TO HIT. AT MILAM AT 35, BECAUSE WE WANT TO HIT THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE WEST SIDE OF 35, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY HAS ALL THAT LAND THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT BIG EXPO. SO WE GOT A LITTLE TWEAKING TO DO AT THE END. BUT. AND BY SEPTEMBER, EARLY, EARLY SEPTEMBER, LIKE THE 10TH OR SO WE ARE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH A STATEMENT THAT SAYS WHATEVER THAT COLOR IS, IS THE TECHNICALLY AND LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
>> I THINK THAT'S MAUVE. >> MAUVE. I DON'T. >> USE THAT WORD VERY
FREQUENTLY. >> YEAH, I'M SUAVE AND DEBONAIR. THAT'S IT. SO I GOT THAT
THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY. Y'ALL DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> EITHER I WAS BORING OR I WAS VERY THOROUGH. >> NO, YOU WERE VERY THOROUGH.
VERY THOROUGH. ALWAYS A PLEASURE. THANK YOU. CITY OF DENTON. TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY PROJECT STATUS REPORT. YES, PLEASE. NO. THAT WAS THIS. THAT WAS THAT? YES. DE MC 26-017.
[D. MC26-017 Staff Memorandum Light Audit on Bronco Follow Up Speed Cushions Impact on Emergency Response Times Denia Roselawn Audit Semi-Annual Transportation Services Report Future Items Matrix]
STAFF MEMORANDUM. YES, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. FARHAN BYRD, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION. >> YES, PLEASE.
>> YES. SO UNDER LIGHT AUDIT ON BRONCO WAY, THE. I THINK CIP IS LOOKING FOR FUNDING THIS YEAR.
THEY COULD NOT FIND THE FUNDING FOR THIS INITIATIVE. AND THEN POSSIBLY NEXT YEAR THEY WILL ROLL IT TO THE PROGRAM FOR NEXT YEAR AND THEN TRY TO FIND FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.
>> OKAY. >> I WAS CURIOUS IF I COULD GET THE LIST OF CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT THIS PROJECT IS SORT OF COMPETING WITH AND SORT OF WHAT THOSE RANKINGS ARE JUST, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT OTHER PROJECTS ARE BEING CONSIDERED ACROSS THE CITY.
THANKS. >> WAS THIS YOUR. >> NO, I THINK IT WAS COMMITTEE
MEMBER PEN. YEAH. >> SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS PORTION OF LIGHTING, IT SAYS THERE'S 21 PENDING REQUESTS FOR STREET LIGHTING ON NON RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO THIS
THIS IS ON A LIST OF NON RESIDENTIAL. >> THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY
OKAY. TYPEKIT. >> BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE AND
AND A SCHOOL. >> YEAH. SO GOOD MORNING MOBILITY COMMITTEE. SETH GARCIA DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO YES. SO DME HAS A PROCESS TO WHERE IF IT IS ACTUALLY WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT ON A PRIMARY OR SECONDARY ARTERIAL ROADWAY, THEY HAVE A FUNDING BUCKET WITHIN THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT FUNDS THOSE STREET LININGS, SPECIFICALLY WITHIN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. ANYTHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THAT GETS FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, NOT THROUGH DME STREET LIGHTING FUND. AND SO THAT WAS A DECISION MADE BY OUR
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CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WITH DME A FEW YEARS BACK. SO THE 21 PENDING REQUESTS ARE REQUESTS ON ROADWAYS LIKE TEASLEY, US 380 AREAS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN A ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.>> AND WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, BUT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE SECTION OF, I THINK IT WAS IT WEST WAY, THAT BRONCO WAY, WEST GATE, WEST GATE. YES, MA'AM. SO THAT SECTION DOES HAVE REALLY GOOD LIGHTING. AND I'M GUESSING THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS FUNDED. IT WAS A IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY. AND SO THOSE LIGHTS WERE FUNDED.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. AND THAT THAT STREET LIGHTING WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT DESIGN. SO AGAIN, SO FROM OUR PREVIOUS ONE, THE LIGHTING STANDARDS, WHEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS CAME IN WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL AND WITH KINGS RIDGE, THE LIGHTING STANDARD WAS NOT IN PLACE TO REQUIRE THEM TO INSTALL THE STREET LIGHTING ON THE SECONDARY ARTERIAL. WE HAVE SINCE CORRECTED THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO WHERE THAT IS NOW PART OF THE PROCESS. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED WITH ALL OTHER KIND OF GENERAL
FUND REQUESTS TO BE FUNDED THROUGH STREET'S MONEY. >> OKAY. IS THERE SO THE, THE, THE PLACE ON THE LIST IS THAT IS THAT SET IN STONE OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE SCHOOLS I MEAN, WHERE DOES DENTON ISD HAVE ANY INPUT AS FAR AS THEM ADVOCATING FOR THEIR STUDENTS, IF IT'S CLOSE TO THEIR CAMPUS, WHO, WHO'S WHO'S AT THE TABLE,
FIGURING OUT WHEN THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED? >> GREAT QUESTION. SO IT'S IT'S THE SCORING IS REDONE EVERY YEAR BASED OFF OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE LIST. THE THE REQUESTS COME FROM THREE ONE ONES FROM COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS FROM ANY ANYWHERE DME GETS A STREET LIGHTING REQUEST. THEY SCORED ON TWO PIECES. THERE'S AN ENGINEERING SCORE FROM DME ENGINEERING THAT BASICALLY SAYS, YES, THIS. THERE'S A LIGHTING NEED. IT WARRANTS FOR ADDITIONAL LIGHTING TO BE LOOKED AT. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A SOCIOECONOMIC SCORE THAT DME PROVIDES THAT SHOWS AREAS, SURROUNDINGS, TAKES IN ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT. SO EACH YEAR THOSE ARE PUT TOGETHER, THEY'RE REEVALUATED. THE THE LIST COMES THROUGH CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE PUT THAT INTO THE CIP. AND THEN ONCE IT GOES THROUGH THE ROUNDS OF CITY MANAGEMENT REVIEW AND COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, ANY ANY POTENTIAL PROJECTS ARE FUNDED.
SO THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT AVENUES TO ADVOCATE FOR A PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO COUNCIL'S DECISION FOR THE FUNDING AS IT GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. YEAH. MY INITIAL CONCERN HERE IS FOR OUR STUDENTS WALKING. SO, YOU KNOW, DURING THE WINTER, KIDS COULD BE GETTING OUT OF A REHEARSAL OR OUT OF A GAME AND THEN WALKING HOME. WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING IN. SURELY THERE'S GOING TO BE STUDENTS LIVING THERE THAT WANT TO WALK HOME. SO THE MEDIAN LIGHTING WOULD BE GREAT. I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STUDENTS WALKING. IS THERE IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT FOR FINDING A WAY TO PUT IN PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING? IS THAT TECHNICALLY LIKE THIS PROPERTY? LET'S SAY THE PROPERTY THAT TOUCHES THE THE HIGH SCHOOL IS HOW WOULD HOW WOULD ONE TRY TO PUT IN PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IS THAT SOMETHING. IS THAT EVEN AT ALL A POSSIBILITY TO HAPPEN SOONER THAN DOING THE BIG LIGHTING OVER THE MEDIAN, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT REALLY LIGHT THE
STUDENTS WALKING? >> YEAH. SO I THINK FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DENTON ISD WANTED TO COME IN AND PUT IN PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING FOR FOR THAT, OF COURSE, WE COULD WORK WITH THEM ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE A D, A DMADISD REQUEST. I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH DME ON THE THE PROS TO PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING VERSUS STREET LIGHTING. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT COST DIFFERENCE ONCE YOU ACTUALLY START RUNNING CONDUITS AND WIRES TO, TO PUT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN FOR A SIDEWALK AS OPPOSED TO A ROADWAY, BECAUSE THE ROADWAY LIGHTING IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH. YEAH, IN MOST SCENARIOS, BUT I COULD I COULD FOLLOW UP WITH DME IF THEY HAVE
A RECOMMENDATION. ANY THOUGHTS. >> ON THAT? YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT WANT TO NOW, IF, IF, IF THERE'S A WAY TO ADVOCATE FOR DENTON ISD TO CONSIDER PUTTING IN LIGHTING, IF THAT IS TECHNICALLY THEIR PROPERTY, EVEN JUST IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, THEY DON'T HAVE LIGHTING THERE. SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER OPTION FOR, FOR GETTING THE KIDS SOME LIGHT. SO THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> HOW DOES PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING
DIFFER FROM VEHICLES? THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEAH THEY'RE LOWER. SO OUR STANDARD DME POLES ARE 35 FOOT. THE WHITE CONCRETE POLES THAT ARE DARK SKY COMPLIANT THAT POINT DOWN THAT THAT CAPTURE BOTH PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING IS GENERALLY LOWER. SO 5 TO 8 FOOT
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POLES CLOSER ALONG THE SIDEWALK, JUST ILLUMINATING WALKWAY AREAS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE UNT INDIFFERENT AREAS THROUGH CAMPUS. AND I'M SURE HAS SOME AS WELL. >> I GOT IT. OKAY. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YOU BET. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE ON THAT ON THAT
ITEM. >> ON THIS ITEM. >> ON LIGHT AUDIT. NO. NO, SIR.
OKAY. OKAY. SPEED CUSHION IMPACT ON EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES.
>> YES. ON THIS. STAFF PROVIDED BRIEF MEMO EXPLAINING THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS ON SPEED CUSHIONS. AND THEN A DETAIL WAS PROVIDED ON HOW STANDARD GAPS WOULD WORK WITH THE ONLY ONE TYPE OF WHITE AXLE VEHICLE BASED ON THE INVENTORY OF THOSE VEHICLES, CITY ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS, THEY DECIDE THAT WHICH WHAT WIDTH OF AXLE WOULD BE DECIDED.
BUT IN THIS. IN MOST CASES, TYPICALLY IT IS A. IT IS A. WIRE TRUCKS THAT ARE CONSIDERED.
THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS THAT THEY WOULD BE WIDE ENOUGH TO COVER THE FIRE TRUCKS, FIRE EQUIPMENT, BUT IT WOULD NOT COVER AMBULANCES, WHICH ARE BASICALLY NARROWER AXLE. AND SO IN MOST CASES, IF IF THOSE SPACES, THOSE STANDARD SPACES ARE COVERING THE FIRE EQUIPMENT, THEN AMBULANCES WILL HAVE TO BREAK AND THEN TRAVERSE THROUGH THIS, THESE SPEED HUMPS AT A VERY LOW SPEED, WHICH WILL ADD ADDITIONAL TIME TO THEIR RESPONSE. AND THEN IN MANY CASES, IF THEY NAVIGATE THROUGH ONE OF THE SPACE AND TRY TO NAVIGATE OVER THE SPEED HUMP THE OTHER PART OF THE SPEED HUMP, IT WILL CAUSE PATIENT JARRING OR SITUATION WHERE IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE PATIENT. SO THEN STAFF ALSO PROVIDED WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IN DFW REGION IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES, AND FOUND THAT MOST CITIES WERE NOT OPTING FOR
SPEED HUMPS BECAUSE OF THE SAME REASONS. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME Y'ALL PUT INTO THIS. AND I WAS ABLE TO READ THE REPORT. I THINK WHEN I HEAR RESIDENTS ASKING FOR SPEED HUMPS, REALLY WHAT THEY'RE JUST WANTING IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN. SO THEY'RE JUST THROWING OUT THE ONLY THINGS THEY KNOW ABOUT. AND I THINK AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP WORKING ON SOME SORT OF TOOLBOX OF TRAFFIC CALMING, THAT'S SHOWN TO BE EFFECTIVE AT ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SLOWING PEOPLE DOWN, I THINK THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. SO WHETHER THAT'S SPEED HUMPS OR NOT, I KNOW THERE'S I MEAN, I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE GOING OVER SPEED HUMPS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THEM IF IT MEANS THAT'S OUR ONLY OPTION TO SLOW TRAFFIC. BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO SLOW TRAFFIC, WHETHER THAT'S SPEED HUMPS OR NOT, THAT'S ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE AND SHOWN TO BE EFFECTIVE. SO IN TERMS OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE SPENDING TIME ON THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD KEEP ASKING FOR BECAUSE I KNOW I'M GOING TO KEEP GETTING, YOU KNOW, SPEEDING, SPEEDING OR UNSAFE SPEEDS OR UNSAFE DRIVING TYPES OF REQUESTS. SO WE DO NEED SOMETHING THAT'S LONG LASTING AND NOT TEMPORARY THAT WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING AND PUTTING OUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE
KINDS OF ISSUES. >> AS PART OF OUR UPCOMING MASTER PLAN. TRAFFIC CALMING WOULD BE PART OF THAT AS WELL. AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING INTO STAFF IS ALSO LOOKING INTO THE USER BEHAVIOR SIDE OF THINGS. SO THERE ARE TWO PARTS OF THIS EQUATION. ONE IS THE TRAFFIC, THE DRIVERS WHO ARE SPEEDING. AND THE OTHER PART IS THAT YES, THEY ARE NOT COMPLYING TO SPEED, BUT THERE'S A UNDERLYING CAUSALITY WHICH IS A DRIVER BEHAVIOR. SO WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT PART BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH, SO MANY SIGNAGES AND SO MANY INTERVENTIONS WE CAN DO ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THERE HAS TO BE SOME RESPONSIBILITY THAT DRIVERS OR ROAD USERS HAVE TO CARRY AS WELL IN TERMS OF COMPLIANCE. SO I THINK WE ARE LOOKING ON BOTH SIDES, AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED, AND WE WILL TRY TO IMPLEMENT THOSE.
>> SURE. AND I KNOW THAT THE CHALLENGE ON THE DRIVER BEHAVIOR SIDE IS IF NOTHING EVER HAPPENS TO THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING IT. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT ALSO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS TEMPORARY. WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET OR THE STAFFING TO HAVE OFFICERS POSTED EVERYWHERE. AS SOON AS THEY GO TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY, THE BEHAVIOR RETURNS.
SO CERTAINLY PHYSICAL CHANGES, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SIGNAGE IS NOT EFFECTIVE, NOT NOT VERY.
SO JUST THOSE PHYSICAL THINGS. SO IT WILL BE AN ONGOING THING. AND I'M SURE THE TOPIC WILL CHANGE IN THE PROFESSION AS WE GO AS WELL. BUT THANK YOU. YES, MEMBER.
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>> THANK YOU FOR THIS. I JUST HAD A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON YOUR EXHIBIT TWO, THE IMPACTS OF THE SPEED CUSHION AND KIND OF LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, I NOTICED THAT THERE'S A NOTE, THE CITY OF CORINTH, THE THE LAST LINE HERE, IT SAYS THE CITY RELIES PRIMARILY ON LOWERED RESIDENTIAL SPEED LIMITS, LOWERING THE DEFAULT URBAN LIMITS FROM 30 MILES AN HOUR TO 25 MILES AN HOUR ON DESIGNATED STREETS, AND TARGETED POLICE ENFORCEMENT. I BELIEVE THAT 30MPH IS THE STANDARD IN DENTON. I KNOW THAT IS THE CASE ON MY STREET.
RESIDENTIAL STREET. HOW? HOW DO YOU THINK THE CITY OF CORINTH WAS ABLE TO TO GET THAT SPEED LIMIT LOWERED ACROSS THE BOARD AND. AND HAS DENTON EVER CONSIDERED DOING SOMETHING LIKE
THAT? >> I AM NOT AWARE OF THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT AS PART OF OUR VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, SPEED IS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES AND THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO. AND AS PART OF THE MITIGATION EFFORTS AND WE ARE ACTION PLAN, VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, WE ARE LOOKING AT COORDINATING WITH DENTON COUNTY, TEX DOT AND CITY OF DENTON TO LOOK INTO THIS ASPECT AND HOW WE CAN COLLECTIVELY LOWER THE SPEEDS ON CERTAIN CORRIDORS.
>> OKAY. >> ON THE SPEED LIMITS. SO DENTON, 30MPH IS BASED ON THE THE STATE PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT. AND RIGHT NOW, IF WE WANT TO DO 25 ON A ROAD, LET'S SAY WE WANT TO DO CITY WIDE. RIGHT NOW, STATE LAW IS VERY CUMBERSOME AND EXPENSIVE. THEY WOULD REQUIRE US TO DO. IT'S LIKE A TRAFFIC, LIKE A SPEED LIMIT SIGN EVERY SO OFTEN. AND IT WAS THE CITY DID LOOK AT IT BEFORE FARHAN GOT HERE. AND IT WAS SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS TO JUST FOR THE SIGNS. SO FOR AT LEAST THE PAST FOUR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, SOMEBODY HAS FILED A BILL TO TRY TO LOWER ALL OF THE CUMBERSOME, CUMBERSOME SO THAT A CITY COULD POTENTIALLY DECREASE THEIR, LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPEED LIMITS TO 25 CITYWIDE AND IT BE LESS CUMBERSOME AND LESS EXPENSIVE. THAT JUST HASN'T PASSED YET. SO IT'S JUST AS IT STANDS, THE LAW MAKES IT REALLY CUMBERSOME. AND SO IN TERMS OF CITYWIDE, IT'S IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT. YEAH.
>> HOW DO DO IT THEN? >> THEY MUST HAVE PAID THE MONEY FOR THE SIGNS. IT'S A
SMALLER COMMUNITY AS WELL. YEAH, >> YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. >> AND THEN SPECIAL ORDINANCE AND, AND THAT'S WHY TEX DOT'S PRESENCE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE KEY DECISION MAKER WHEN IT COMES TO REQUESTS FOR CHANGING. IT'S AT LEAST FOR NOW. AND SO WE WANT TO BRING ALL TWO KEY STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING DENTON COUNTY AND TXDOT ON THE TABLE IN TERMS OF VISION ZERO
ACTION PLAN, ACTION ITEMS. >> I MEAN, THE UPSIDE IS THAT THAT BILL HAS NOT IT'S BEEN WELL RECEIVED. IT JUST NEVER MAKES IT TO THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE AS PART OF THE ISSUE.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? I'M PLEASED TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT THAT AT LEAST REGIONALLY SPEED CUSHION SPEED BUMPS ARE GOING AWAY. THAT'S THAT'S THE STYLE I HEAR. I HEAR THE SAME THING. AND AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH YOU. PEOPLE DON'T WANT SPEED BUMPS. THEY WANT SLOWER SPEEDS. BUT BUT MY EXPLANATION HAS BEEN TO MY CONSTITUENTS THAT THAT SPEED BUMPS ARE GOING AWAY. AND WHY IS THAT? WELL, THEY JUST ARE BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES PRIMARILY. BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED.
>> OKAY. SO FOR THE. AUDIT, WE CONDUCTED THE AUDIT IN THIS AREA AND WE FOUND THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC FLOW WAS CONVENTIONAL AND WE DID NOT FIND ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY. IN ADDITION, LAST YEAR WE HAD IN THE MCCORMICK STREET AREA, WE HAD WE HAD COMPREHENSIVE ROAD SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING ALL WAY STOP SIGNS, AND THEN COVERED ENSURED THAT SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL IS THERE IN TERMS OF CROSSING, WHICH WE ADDED ADDITIONAL CROSSING AND ADDITIONAL STOP SIGN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE BASED ON OUR AUDIT, WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE SOME BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, DRIVER BEHAVIOR ISSUES, WHERE WE SAW SOME NONCOMPLIANCE OF SIGNAGE OR SPEED RULES, POSSIBLY AS A NEXT STEP, WE ARE SCHEDULING A SPEED STUDY IN THIS AREA, POSSIBLY IN OCTOBER, THAT WILL GO IN OCTOBER. AND BASED ON THAT, BASED ON OUR FINDING, WE'LL JUST SEE WHAT OTHER INTERVENTIONS ARE NEEDED. BUT FOR NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE DRIVER BEHAVIOR SEEMS TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF THIS WHOLE MATRIX, WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO EVALUATE THE AREA AND FINDING SIGNAGES ARE THERE, BUT SOMEHOW
THE DRIVERS ARE NOT COMPLYING. SOME DRIVERS, MOST ARE. OKAY. >> OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED.
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>> OKAY. AND SO TRANSPORTATION SERVICES PROVIDED SEMIANNUAL REPORT. AND THAT COVERS MOST PROGRAMS THAT AND INITIATIVES THAT THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES IS INVOLVED IN INCLUDING ROAD SAFETY ADA AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND WITH, INCLUDING WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH FOR OUR STRATEGIC PROJECTS. AND IT ALSO LISTS IN DETAILS THAT THE FUNDING THAT TRANSPORTATION SERVICES HAS BEEN ABLE TO BRING OVER $40 MILLION IN FUNDING IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE HAVE ABOUT $62 MILLION IN PENDING STATUS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE UNDER REVIEW. AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET MOST OF IT. AND IN ADDITION, IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PROJECTS, WHICH WE ARE PLANNING TO APPLY FOR, FOR THE CITY, WHICH INCLUDES. SAFETY PROJECTS LINKED TO SAGEBRUSH AREA AND THEN ON ON US. 377 AND JIM JIM CRYSTAL BOULEVARD AND ALSO BELL AVENUE IS ONE OF THE CONCENTRATION AND WINDSOR. SO THESE ARE FOUR PROJECTS FM FOUR, TWO, EIGHT AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS ARE THERE. IN FACT I-35 TO I-35 VINTAGE TO MERGE FRONT FRONTAGE ROAD FOR. THAT IS ALSO ONE OF THE CONSIDERATION. BUT THOSE TWO ARE LONG TERM. THE SHORT TERM ONES ARE THE ONES JIM CRYSTAL AND SAGEBRUSH AND BELL AVENUE WE ARE APPLYING THIS MONTH FOR FOR THE FUNDING VIA ENTITY CORK, WE ARE TIP UPDATE PROCESS.
>> OKAY ANYONE. >> AND THAT WILL POSSIBLY BRING US ADDITIONAL 5050 TO $60
MILLION IN TERMS OF THESE PROJECTS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT
ABOUT THE REPORT. YES. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> OKAY. OKAY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS REPORT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. DO YOU HAVE THE FILE? ARE WE ARE WE MOVING ON TO TO DISCUSS THAT OR PLEASE. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, VERY, VERY THOROUGH, VERY IT MADE ME FEEL VERY PROUD OF OUR STAFF, OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. SO I VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE WORKING REALLY HARD TO, TO MAKE DENTON SAFER. I ALSO, I APPRECIATE THE INCLUSION OF THE CHAPTER THAT YOU WROTE RECENTLY. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS FOR EXACTLY, BUT JUST SOME OF THE, THE PUBLICATIONS FROM STAFF. WE HAVEN'T HAD, YOU KNOW, MOBILITY HASN'T MET IN A FEW MONTHS. THIS SUMMER WAS PARTICULARLY HOT. AND, AND JUST AS A MOM, I STARTED TO FEEL, YOU KNOW, THAT FRUSTRATION OF, OF WANTING MORE FACILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR MOST VULNERABLE USERS TO BE OUTDOORS. AND SO BEING ABLE TO READ OVER THIS REALLY LARGE DOCUMENT REALLY DID REMIND ME THAT STAFF IS AWARE THEY, THEY HAVE, AT THE CORE, THEIR DESIRE TO REALLY INCORPORATE FROM THE BEGINNING STAGES. THE PRIORITIZATION AND INCLUSION OF ALL ROAD USERS. AND SO I'M THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. THAT AS, AS A MOM, THAT MADE ME FEEL A LOT BETTER. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE ON PAGE 40, THERE'S A SECTION, PAGE 39 AND 40, TALKING ABOUT THE CITYWIDE PARKING PROGRAM. AND I KNOW I BELIEVE THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION OR DISCUSSION OF THE PARKING REFORM IN AUGUST AT A WORK SESSION. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THEN. SO I'M GUESSING IT MAY BE HAPPENING IN SEPTEMBER. IT SAYS THAT THE STAFF IS GOING TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL TO TRY A ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM OF LIFTING THE PARKING MINIMUMS IN THE CITY ON SEPTEMBER 15TH. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND MY QUESTION THERE IS AND I LOOKED OVER THE APPENDIX A, THE CITYWIDE PARKING PRESENTATION FOR THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
IT SAYS HERE THAT THE THE PROPOSED PILOT PROGRAM WILL BE FOR LIFTING PARKING MINIMUMS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS FOR ONE YEAR, WHICH I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT IDEA. SO I'M CURIOUS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS FAR AS NEW DEVELOPMENTS? ARE THOSE. NEW HOUSING AND
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COMMERCIAL. ANYTHING THAT IS BEING DRAFTED RIGHT NOW AND GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE NEXT YEAR WHEN THEY GO TO SUBMIT THE REQUIREMENTS TO GET THAT THING BUILT THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO SAY WE DON'T. WELL, YOU ACTUALLY DON'T NEED PARKING. IS THAT KIND OF IS THAT WHAT THAT'S SUGGESTING AT THIS POINT, TO DO THAT FOR ONE YEAR? AND THEN HOW MANY PROJECTS DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, IT HAS STAFF KIND OF ESTIMATED HOW MANY PROJECTS THAT MIGHT ACTUALLYENTAIL. >> AT THIS POINT? IT IS VERY GENERAL BECAUSE UNTIL COUNCIL APPROVES THAT AND THEN WE'LL FORMALLY DEVELOP THE PROCESS. AND THEN THIS PROCESS WILL INCLUDE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES AND A COUPLE OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER TO DEVELOP THE FLOW ON HOW THIS WHOLE THING WILL WORK. AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED, THAT THERE COULD BE A MIX OF DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE APPLYING FOR THIS, AND WE WOULD MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW, AND THAT MAY CHANGE BASED ON HOW COUNCIL ADVISES US. IT MAY WE WILL LOOK AT THOSE CASE BY CASE BASIS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S THE AREA WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMING, IS READY FOR THAT KIND OF CHANGE. AND IF IT IS NOT, WHAT CAN WHAT STAFF CAN HELP THAT DEVELOPMENT TO ACHIEVE THAT STATUS? SO I THINK IN GENERAL, WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN A GENERAL STAGE WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING THIS ONE YEAR PILOT, AND ONCE IT IS APPROVED, WE WILL WE WILL, YOU KNOW, GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE THE FLOW OF WORK, HOW THIS WHOLE PROCESS WILL WORK.
>> OKAY. AND I'M GUESSING IN THAT DURING THAT PROCESS, IT SAYS TO ANALYZE THE RESULTING CHALLENGES AND SUCCESSES. SO I'M GUESSING AT THAT POINT YOU'LL DETERMINE WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE OR WHAT DOES THOSE CHALLENGES LOOK LIKE? ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL? IF IT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE THEN FOR IT STARTING? AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE AS FAR AS THIS COMMITTEE WOULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET UPDATES ON THAT THROUGHOUT THAT ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM TO FIND OUT, IS ANYONE DOING IT? I DON'T KNOW, JUST KIND OF HAVING A CONTINUED DIALOG SINCE THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT, BASICALLY.
>> AND I SAID, I THINK IT'S IN GENERAL STAGE RIGHT NOW, THE TIMELINE, IF I MAY SAY, I THINK IT WOULD BE EXACTLY WHEN COUNCIL APPROVES. THAT WILL TAKE PROBABLY A MONTH TO DECIDE THE PROCESS AND TAKE IT TO A MOBILITY COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL AGAIN, THAT THIS IS FINALLY THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING. IF NECESSARY. IF IT IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, THEN WE WILL PROBABLY START THE PROCESS. BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE PENDING COUNCIL APPROVALS. SO ONCE THAT IS THERE, THEN WE WILL HAVE MUCH MORE CLARITY ON HOW THINGS WILL MOVE ON.
>> OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER.
>> I JUST HAVE COMMENTS. I MEAN, EVERY TIME I READ ONE OF THESE REPORTS, I'M JUST VERY IMPRESSED BY ALL THE WORK THE ENTIRE TEAM IS DOING. SO I'M GOING TO LOOK OVER THERE AS WELL. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS. I MEAN, I HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME. BEFORE THIS TEAM GOT HERE, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS, COMPLAINTS, COMPLAINTS, AND NOTHING REALLY EVER CAME OF IT. SO NOW RESIDENTS ARE SEEING THAT THINGS ARE BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. IT'S BEING DONE A LOT MORE QUICKLY THAN IT WAS BEFORE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING BEFORE. IT JUST KIND OF DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO I WANT TO CALL THAT OUT THAT I'M HEARING A LOT, THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW RESPONSIVE THIS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SINCE THIS TEAM HAS BEEN ON BOARD. SO JUST REALLY BIG KUDOS ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND REMARKS. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> IT'S MY TEAM MOSTLY. I MEAN, ALL OF THE TEAM MEMBERS ARE ON DIFFERENT ITEMS AND THEY HAVE BEEN DELIVERING. AND THIS IS A TRULY GOOD TEAM WORK THAT IS BEHIND THIS EFFORT.
>> SO I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED. AND ONE SPECIFIC ITEM I DID WANT TO CALL OUT WAS I HEARD FROM THE UNT STUDENT GOVERNMENT. SO UNT IS IN MY DISTRICT. A LOT OF STUDENTS LIVE IN MY DISTRICT, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE DEVELOPING SOME SORT OF PROPOSAL OR PETITION OR SOMETHING TO ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS ON EAGLE DRIVE. SO IT WAS REALLY EXCITING TO ME THAT A COUPLE WEEKS LATER, I SAW THAT STAFF WAS ALREADY WORKING ON SUCH A THING BEFORE THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT HAD EVEN OFFICIALLY, I THINK, SUBMITTED ANYTHING. SO THE FACT THAT THIS WAS BEING ADDRESSED BEFORE THEY EVEN HAD TO REALLY PUSH FOR IT, I WAS VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO RETURN TO THEM AND SAY THAT IT'S IT'S BEING LOOKED AT ALREADY. SO AGAIN, KUDOS ON THE RESPONSIVENESS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY EVERYTHING I SAW
IN THAT. >> WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING ON THIS EAGLE DRIVE PROJECT WITH UNT FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS NOW, AND IT'S BACK AND FORTH, AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH OUR
TRANSPORTATION TEAM. YES, THEY ARE ON BOARD. >> YAY! THANK YOU ALL.
>> COULD YOU TOUCH ON WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT?
BELLE AVENUE. >> SO BELLE AVENUE IS A STUDY THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY WELL, IT WENT THROUGH MANY CYCLES. THE MOST RECENT CYCLE WHERE WE HAVE A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN
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DEVELOPED IN COLLABORATION WITH TWU TRANSPORTATION FOLKS. THEY WERE PART OF THIS PROCESS. THIS STUDY WAS INITIATED AND TOOK ABOUT A YEAR TO COMPLETE. AND KIMBERLY HORN WERE THE CONSULTANT ON THIS. AND THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THIS CONCEPT DESIGN THAT IS THAT IS PREFERRED SCENARIO. AND BOTH CITY OF DENTON STAFF AND AND TWU STAFF, THEY AGREE ON THE IMPROVEMENTS. THESE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE INCLUDE BIKE PED IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AND AND ROBES FOR PEDESTRIANS, ENHANCED SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR WALKABILITY, INCREASING THE WALKABILITY INDEX IN THAT CORRIDOR TO A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL. AND THEN OVERALL, THE GOAL IS THAT WE MAKE IT MAKE THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR VERY WALKABLE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SAFE TO WALK FOR STUDENTS AND ALL OTHER ROAD USERS. AND SO IN LAST MEETING AT TWU, THEY REQUESTED THAT THIS SHOULD GO AHEAD AND WE SHOULD IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE GUIDANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES GOT FROM CITY LEADERSHIP IS THAT WE NEED TO FIND EXTERNAL FUNDING FOR THIS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE. ON THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE OF THIS PROJECT, WE ARE PROACTIVELY LOOKING FOR THE FUNDING TRIP.UPDATE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE WHERE WE WILL APPLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE ARE NCT TIP UPDATE AND WE WILL. WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS WILL BE FUNDED. IF NOT, THEN WE HAVE PLAN B,
PLAN C AS WELL. >> OKAY, SO. SO BELLE AVENUE ESSENTIALLY FROM HIGHWAY 380 TO
TEXAS OR WITHERS STREET. >> I THINK IT'S MINGO OR MINGO. >> OKAY. OKAY.
>> YEAH. >> THAT PART. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING
ABOUT THAT VERY THING. OKAY. >> SURE. >> I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WE TALKED JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO IN YOUR MEMO ABOUT THE THE TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES, THE SPEED, THE SPEED HUMPS AND THE SPEED CUSHIONS. I ON PAGE 111 AT THE BOTTOM, SECTION FIVE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. AND I, WHAT I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE DOING THE VERTICAL DEFLECTION DEVICES ARE ARE NO LONGER PLAUSIBLE. BUT THE HORIZONTAL MEASURES YOU SAID, INCLUDING CHOKERS, CHICANES AND TRAFFIC CIRCLES MAY BE EVALUATED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WITH TRANSPORTATION AND FIRE REVIEW. AND THERE'S ALSO CRITERIA TO ESTABLISH AN ENGINEERING BASIS FOR EXCEPTIONS IN THE PEDESTRIAN SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTS SUCH AS SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS AND PARKS, WHICH IS GREAT. WHAT I'M CURIOUS IS. HOW WHAT WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR FOR DETERMINING, I GUESS, FOR EVALUATING. AN AREA THAT LIKE, AS SUZI SAID, A LOT OF HER CONSTITUENTS ARE, ARE, ARE STRESSED AND WORRIED ABOUT THE SPEED. WHAT IS THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT ARE. DO WE HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF CHOKERS, CHICANES, OR TRAFFIC CIRCLES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED SO FAR?
>> SO AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING PRESENTATIONS IN PAST. IN RECENT PAST, WE HAVE PRESENTED THESE OPTIONS TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE. AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES FOR TRAFFIC CALMING. BUT EACH PROJECT IS SENSITIVE TO THE CONTEXT WHERE THE LOCATION IS. ARE THERE SCHOOLS NEARBY, COLLEGES NEARBY, OR IT'S A COMMERCIAL AREA WITH HEAVY PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY OR A LOT OF HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC. ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE CONSIDERED. AND THEN AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, OF COURSE, THERE IS A LONG LIST OF REGULATORY CRITERIA WHICH IS IDENTIFIED BY USDOT AND TXDOT. AND THEN EVEN OUR OWN CRITERIA IS THERE AS WELL. SO THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT VIOLATING ANY OF THOSE. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE GO THROUGH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR EACH AREA WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO DEPLOY SOME OF THESE INTERVENTIONS, WE WILL ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THESE SOLUTIONS ARE ON ON THE SAME PAGE, OR IF THEY HAVE ANOTHER, IF THEY DON'T PREFER THAT. SO ALL OF THIS WILL HAPPEN BEFORE WE GO AND ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THERE.
>> OKAY. AND. WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WITH THAT IS WHAT WITH ALL OF THOSE NECESSARY STEPS.
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HOW HOW MANY LIKE IN A YEAR, WHAT IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET 40 OF TRAFFIC CALMING THINGS IN PLACE? TEN I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT. THAT TAKES A LOT TO JUST PUT IN SOMETHING THATIS GOING TO SLOW CARS DOWN. >> SO FOR US, IT'S A PRIORITY THAT IS SET BY CITY LEADERSHIP.
AND THE PRIORITY IS, FOR INSTANCE, WE PREVIOUSLY BEFORE VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, WE NEVER HAD HIGH INJURY NETWORK, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT BY USDOT AND NHTSA AND U.S. DOJ FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO HAVE THAT. IN ORDER FOR US TO IMPLEMENT ANY ANYTHING THERE, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE IMPLEMENT IS NOT CONSIDERED AS IMPROVEMENT FROM FEDERAL RULE, ALTHOUGH IT MAY CONTRIBUTE. SO OUR. FROM CITY'S DIRECTION, CITY LEADERSHIP'S DIRECTION, OUR HIGH PRIORITY IS IMPLEMENTING THOSE OR MITIGATING THOSE HIGH INJURY NETWORK LOCATIONS. BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO ACHIEVE BY 2035, WHICH I AND MY TEAM IS UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE TO DELIVER THAT BY 2035, WE WANT TO DELIVER. WE WANT TO BRING THIS CRASH FATALITIES CURB TO MID-LEVEL.
AND WE CANNOT ACHIEVE THAT BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING THESE HIGH INJURY LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY WELL VETTED VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN. THAT IS ONE PREFERENCE THAT WE HAVE.
AND NOW THERE ARE ON THE SIDE WE HAVE SOME OTHER SAFETY OR RISK BASED LOCATIONS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO DEPLOY IMMEDIATELY DEPLOY. THOSE ARE CASE BY CASE BASIS. IF WE HAVE A SAFETY RISK, ESSENTIAL SAFETY RISK, AND OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER IDENTIFIES THAT AS A CLEAR SAFETY RISK, WE WOULD PRIORITIZE IT PROVIDED OUR BUDGET ALLOWS OR SPECIAL EXCEPTION GIVEN BY OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OR CITY MANAGEMENT. OTHERWISE, WE'LL PRIORITIZE BASED ON OUR SCHEDULE, AVAILABILITY AND AND HOW CRITICAL THIS GETS FOR FOR REGULAR IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY NOT BE NEEDED FROM RISK STANDPOINT, THEY WOULD NOT TAKE PRECEDENCE. SO THIS IS THE GENERAL RULE, BUT IT'S ALWAYS CASE BY CASE BASIS. BUT FOR US THE PRIORITY IS HIGH INJURY NETWORK AND ADA TRANSITION PLAN. SO WE SO ADA TRANSITION PLAN IS ALSO TIED TO SAFETY. SO FOR US THE PRIORITY IS THAT HOW MANY OF THESE BARRIERS WE HAVE, WE HAVE REMOVED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPORT TO USDOT AND U.S. DOJ NEXT YEAR THAT HOW MANY BARRIERS WERE REMOVED SO THAT WE ARE AGAIN, WE GET AGAIN, THREE YEARS COMPLIANCE. SO, SO
SO THESE TWO ARE THE PRIORITY FOR NOW. >> OKAY. AND I APPRECIATE THAT FOR SURE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH. WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD PREVENT STAFF FROM IMPLEMENTING? LET'S JUST SAY LIKE IN A YEAR, WE HAD A GOAL, LIKE FOR EVERY, FOR EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN LIKE, WE WANT A SPEED BUMP. IF, IF AND I'M THINKING A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS DON'T HAVE SIDEWALK FACILITIES. AND, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE NEW STANDARDS. THOSE WILL BENEFIT PLACES THAT HAVE YET TO BE BUILT. I'M THINKING RETROACTIVELY, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES IN DENTON THAT JUST DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FACILITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS. WHAT, WHAT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR THE CITY STAFF TO GO? WE ARE WE CAN'T REBUILD EVERY STREET IN DENTON TO HAVE LIKE GOING TO TAKE FOREVER. BUT WE CAN AND WE CAN'T DO SPEED BUMPS. AND THE SIGNS, SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ARE NOT REALLY WORKING AND TRAFFIC. HAVING POLICE MONITORING EVERY STREET AND PULLING PEOPLE OVER. SO IT'S TO ME, THE THESE SIMPLE THINGS, THE QUICK BUILDS, THE CHOKERS AND THE THE CHICANES, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION. WHAT WOULD PREVENT STAFF FROM IMPLEMENTING, LET'S JUST SAY LIKE 50 LOCATIONS, ESPECIALLY ON LIKE RESIDENTIAL STREETS? WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING?
>> SO WE HAVE A VERY METHODICAL APPROACH TO THAT. ONE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES STAFF, DOCTOR ROITMAN, SHE IS WORKING ON A BIKE PED AND. PROJECT PRIORITIZATION. BEFORE WE HAD A RANDOM PROJECT LIST AND WE FOUND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE IT? AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A VERY METHODICAL PROCESS OF CREATING A CRITERIA THAT IS NOT ONLY DRAFTED BY CITY STAFF, BUT IT HAS BEEN WELL VETTED BY MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE DFW AREA. AND THEN WE HAVE SUBMITTED A PAPER, AS YOU HAVE NOTICED, ON THAT CRITERIA, TO TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH RECORD, WHICH IS AUTHORITY ON ANY
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TRANSPORTATION RELATED STRATEGIES IN THE US. AND THEN IF THE PAPER IS ACCEPTED, THEN THAT MEANS THAT THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE PEER PEER EXPERTS OR REVIEW PANELS.AND IF THEY SAY THAT, YES, THAT'S COOL AND WE ARE PUBLISHING IT, THAT MEANS THAT THE OUR CRITERIA IS GOOD. ANOTHER PRONG IS THAT WE ARE TAKING IT TO TEXAS TRANSPORTATION INSTITUTE, WHICH IS ALSO STATE'S AUTHORITY ON TRANSPORTATION RELATED REGULATORY MATTERS, WHERE THEY RESEARCH AND THEY, THEY, THEY DISCOVER NEW METHODS OR PRIORITIZE THINGS. SO WE WILL WILL HAVE IT THE CRITERIA VETTED THROUGH THEM. ONCE WE HAVE THIS CRITERIA. ROYA. DOCTOR ROYA HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED A LIST OF AROUND 50 PROJECTS, INCLUDING BIKE PATHS AND SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING. WE'LL PASS THOSE PROJECTS THROUGH THAT CRITERIA. WE ALREADY HAVE DONE THAT, BUT WE ARE WAITING ON THIS PEER REVIEW PROCESS. AND THEN ONCE IT IS APPROVED, WE'LL BRING IT TO COUNCIL AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE AND SHARE THOSE, AND WE WILL HAVE THE PROJECT LIST. NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT 40 OR 50 PROJECTS, WE HAVE A GIVEN POT. BY THE WAY, WE HAVE A FUNDING POT GIVEN BY THE CITY MANAGEMENT, AND THAT IS OUR CIP BUDGET, AND WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH OUT OF THAT. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS HIGH INJURY NETWORK. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SAFETY. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS BIKE PED AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AS WELL. SO WE TRY TO BEST UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS AND FACE THESE PROJECTS IN YEARS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE ARE TRYING TO BRING EXTERNAL FUNDING AS WELL. BUT WE CANNOT SOLELY RELY ON EXTERNAL FUNDINGS. WE WE CAN. ONE THING WE CAN BE SURE OF IS OUR CIP BUDGET, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED AND THAT WE HAVE FUNDINGS. THEIR EXTERNAL FUNDINGS. IT DEPENDS ON IF WE ARE APPROVED BECAUSE WE ARE COMPETING WITH 50 STATES. IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE PROCESS AND I KNOW HOW WE HAVE RECEIVED THIS $40 MILLION ONLY I KNOW THAT HOW COMPETITIVE THE PROCESS WAS AND WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH MANY TECHNICAL EXERCISES, TECHNICAL MEETINGS, JUSTIFYING OUR OUR PROJECTS BEFORE THEY ARE FUNDED. OKAY.
>> THAT'S GREAT. SO I THAT'S WONDERFUL. IS THAT IS THAT THE REPORT THAT YOU SAID WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE 2027? I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INCLUDED. THE CRITERIA LIKE THE ACTUAL CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZATION. I KNOW THERE WAS A LIST OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS, BUT IS THERE A WAY THIS COMMITTEE COULD LEARN LIKE WHAT, WHAT DOES LIKE, WHAT ARE
SOME OF THE WAYS WE RANK CERTAIN STREETS? >> WE ARE TAKING THE LAST STEP.
ARE WE GOT DIRECTION FROM OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, CHARLIE, THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. AND SO AND THAT IS I REALIZE THAT THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONCE WE GET THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, WE WILL PUT THAT AS A WEIGHTING FACTOR INTO THE CRITERIA.
PUBLIC FEEDBACK WILL BE A FACTOR, WILL BE WEIGHTED. AND THEN WE ONCE WE HAVE THAT VALIDATED AND BY THE BY THAT TIME WE WILL HAVE ALSO THE PEER REVIEW PROCESS COMPLETED AS WELL. WE HOPE TO BRING IT TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER IN NOVEMBER.
MOBILITY COMMITTEE. OKAY. THE COMPLETE CRITERIA AND LIST OF PROJECTS AS WELL. OKAY.
>> AND AND IN BETWEEN THAT, I'M SORRY TO HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT ONCE IT GETS TO THERE, THEN COUNCIL COULD POSSIBLY SAY, YES, KEEP GOING. AND THEN WE WOULD START ADDRESSING, I'M CURIOUS IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, STAFF IS STILL CONTINUING TO EVALUATE AND TRY TO DO SOME OF THESE LIKE LESS EXPENSIVE PROJECTS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE LISTED
ON THIS DOCUMENT. >> ARE BASED ON OUR CIP BUDGET. WE ARE ALLOCATING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE HIGH, PRIORITIZED BASED ON OUR EXISTING CRITERIA AND MANY OTHER METHODS. SO WE ARE WORKING ON AT LEAST 4 OR 5 PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT WILL BE
ALLOCATED TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS. SO FARHAN AND ROY ARE WORKING ON A LIST OF LIKE CONNECT CONNECTIVITY OF SIDEWALKS, MISSING GAPS, LIKE BIGGER TERM PROJECTS, THESE, THESE SMALLER PROJECTS. IT COMES DOWN TO TIME AND MONEY. WE HAVE LIMITED STAFF RESOURCES.
YOU KNOW, WE GET HUNDREDS OF REQUESTS A YEAR TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY GO OUT AND THEY DO AN AUDIT. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, WE'RE SPEEDING OUR ROADWAY. WE HAVE TO VERIFY OR PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY SPEEDING. SOMETIMES WE FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE NOT. AND, AND THAT'S A PERCEPTION THING. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS, IS THERE ANYTHING TO DO ABOUT IS THERE A CLEAR SAFETY RISK? AND THEN HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE WHAT TYPES OF TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES CAN BE PUT IN PLACE? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS CLEARLY IDENTIFYING LIKE, AT WHAT POINT DO THESE MEASURES GET TAKEN? BECAUSE WE'RE RECEIVING, I
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THINK WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVE THEM FROM 311. WE RECEIVE THEM FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE RECEIVE THEM FROM PHONE CALLS. SO WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE. NOT EVERYONE'S AN ISSUE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TIME TO GO OUT AND EVALUATE THESE. AND AND IT'S BECOMING A LARGER AND LARGER, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD THING TO GET THIS, THIS INFORMATION, BUT IT'S JUST WE CAN'T ADDRESS ALL OF THEM. AND SO THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING ARE THE SAME THINGS WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH. WHICH ONES DO WE ADDRESS? HOW DO WE ADDRESS THEM? AND SO WE'RE WE'RE HAVINGTO FIND A MORE SYSTEMATIC WAY TO APPROACH THESE THINGS. >> AND WE ARE DEVELOPING THE
SOPS FOR THAT. HOW WE WILL DECIDE. >> AND A LOT OF TIMES TO. WE WOULD GO OUT AND SOMETIMES IMPLEMENT A MEASURE THAT. IT WAS AN INITIAL ONE PERSON TASK, BUT WASN'T A COMMUNITY WIDE TASK. AND SO THEN WE SPENT STAFF TIME, MONEY AND RESOURCES ON SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT IN FAVOR OF. AND SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS OF HOW CAN WE GARNER SUPPORT THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE WITH FACTUAL INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, IF WE GO OUT AND SEE THAT IT'S AN ISSUE, TELL THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S AN ISSUE, OR WE HAVE A REQUEST OR, YOU KNOW, GATHER SUPPORT FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE THEY APPROACH US, LIKE WE'RE LOOKING INTO OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY APPROACH THIS. BUT IT'S JUST A, IT'S A COST AND
STAFF RESOURCE ISSUE. >> I. >> I, I EMPATHIZE WITH THAT. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND ONE THING, I'M WHAT MIGHT JUST THROW OUT THERE. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN A KIND OF A COMMUNITY, ALMOST LIKE A VOLUNTEER APPROACH WHERE THEY'VE CREATED THE SOPS, THEY'VE CREATED THEIR METHODOLOGIES, AND THEN THEY HAVE ESSENTIALLY A TOOLKIT. THEY MAY HAVE A BUDGET, THEY MAY GO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT WE BOUGHT 2000 FLEXI POSTS, BOLLARDS, AND WE'VE GOT THE THE TOOLS TO PUT THEM IN PLACE. IF YOU'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD RANK REALLY HIGH. BUT IF THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING, WE REALLY DO WANT THESE CHOKE POINTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK. PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING. WE DON'T. WE KNOW THAT THE CITY CAN'T COME IN AND REBUILD OUR STREET. SOME CITIES ARE MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND INSTALL SOME OF THESE KIND OF LESS EXPENSIVE PROJECTS, WITH THE OVERSIGHT OF STAFF. SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AS MANY ACTUAL PAID, YOU KNOW, CITY EMPLOYEES. AND SO IT'S KIND OF THIS LIKE COLLABORATIVE THING WHERE YOU'VE GOT COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT GOING. AND ALSO THEY CAN KIND OF COME IN AND DO THE WORK TO HELP NEIGHBORS UNDERSTAND, HEY, YOU MIGHT THINK BOLLARDS ARE UGLY, AS MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS ACTUALLY HAS BEEN SHOWN TO, TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN. LET'S GIVE IT, LET'S GIVE IT A FEW MONTHS OR A YEAR AND SEE. SO I MIGHT JUST THROW THAT THAT IS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY
COULD LOOK. >> INTO, SOMETHING WE. >> CAN LOOK AT, MAYBE A WAY TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME ALONGSIDE AND OFFER TO DO SOME OF THE WORK. IF IT'S NOT MAJOR
CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? DOCTOR BUD.
>> NO, JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THAT THIS IS ENTIRELY MY TEAM'S WORK AND I'M PROUD OF THEM. AND THEN I HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE MAKING IMPACT. AND IF NOT LISTED, SOMETHING IS NOT LISTED DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT THERE. WE HAVE BEEN CONTINUOUSLY REVIEWING OUR PRIORITIES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ALIGNED, REALIGN THEM AS NEEDED AND WE ARE ON IT. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. >> OKAY. AND. SETH, HAVE THE MATRIX, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL TOUCH ON THE FUTURE ITEMS MATRIX REALLY QUICK. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THREE OF THESE ITEMS. JUST A REMINDER WE DON'T NEED A VOTE TO REMOVE THEM. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, NOW'S THE TIME TO TO MAKE THAT REQUEST.
>> OKAY. YES, MA'AM. >> I'LL JUST REITERATE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LIST OF 21 RELATING TO THE LIGHTS, BUT OTHERWISE I'M FINE WITH ALL OF THESE BEING REMOVED. THERE WAS ONE QUESTION I HAD. DON'T LET ME ADD SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE ALREADY. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY UPDATES ON PECAN CREEK TRAIL IN A WHILE, SO I'M CURIOUS IF THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE RECENTLY AND I CAN GO READ IT. IF THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE RECENTLY, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME
SORT OF WRITTEN UPDATE ON THAT. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE CAN INCLUDE THAT AND WE SHOULD
BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT IN NEXT MONTH'S MOBILITY WRITE UP. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? WE MEET AGAIN WHEN.
>> GREAT QUESTION. SEPTEMBER 30TH. >> 10:00.
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>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. NO
IDEA WHAT TIME IT IS. >> 11. >> 11. 11. 11. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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