Nov 19, 2024 City Council on 2024-11-19 2:00 PM (Special Called)

[WORK SESSION BEGINS AT 2:00 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION ROOM]

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS THE IT'S THE TUESDAY, THE 19TH OF NOVEMBER. AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. SO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER THE FIRST

[1. Citizen Comments on Consent Agenda Items]

IF THEY ARE RELATED. AND THEN MY NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE 89TH STATE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THAT I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES AS FAR AS LIKE MENTAL HEALTH.

I'M ACTUALLY IN FOR MENTAL HEALTH ONLY IF WE INSTITUTIONALIZE THESE PEOPLE LIKE WE USED TO DO NOW HAVE THEM OUT IN THE STREETS, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE NEED INPATIENT CARE, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ON OUTPATIENT CARE. I'M AGAINST THE PET SHOP REGULATIONS, MEANING THAT THEY'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE RESCUE PETS. THIS IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. I SUPPORT STATE REGULATIONS OF MATERIAL AND PUBLIC LIBRARY BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF INAPPROPRIATE MATERIAL IN DENTON CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE FREE REIGN OVER THAT. NO ATTORNEYS FOR CLASS C MISDEMEANORS. HE'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR IS FINE. ONLY THEY THEY THEY SHOULDN'T GET ANY ATTORNEY. AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME NO WARRANTS FOR CLASS C MISDEMEANORS EITHER. IF IT'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR, FINE. ONLY THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY WARRANTS PUT OUT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO START PASSING LEGISLATION TO. SOMEBODY HAS TWO BLADES OF GRASS IN THE STREET, AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO PUT A ARREST WARRANT OUT FOR PEOPLE FOR TWO BLADES OF GRASS. I WANT TO LIMIT THE CO THE CERTIFICATE AUTHORIZATION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE SPENDING. NOW THAT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE BALLOT. AND I'M OPPOSED FOR A LEGISLATIVE FUNDS FOR LOCAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. NOW IF YOU WANT TO DO LOCAL TRANSPORTATION, YOU GUYS SHOULD PAY FOR IT YOURSELF. I DON'T WANT ANY STATE FUNDING FOR THAT. AND OTHER THAN THAT, AND THERE'S A LOT MORE, BUT THAT'S ALL I COULD GO OVER. IN A BRIEF SUMMATION. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION. THANK

[2. Requests for clarification of agenda items listed on this agenda for public hearing and individual consideration.]

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the City’s federal legislative efforts. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 45 minutes]]

DISCUSSION. GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CITY'S FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHRISTY FOGLE, CHIEF OF STAFF. I'M JOINED TODAY BY OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS, RALPH AND DEBORAH FROM DC. THEY WORK WITH CAPITAL EDGE AND HAVE DONE SOME GREAT WORK WITH US IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ON OUR FEDERAL FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS. SO, RALPH, I'LL DO THE FIRST FEW SLIDES, AND THEN RALPH WILL COME UP AND GIVE SOME OF HIS INFORMATION AS WELL. SO A QUICK OVERVIEW. I'LL GO OVER THE GENERAL ADVOCACY OBJECTIVES FOR OUR FEDERAL ADVOCACY DMS ADVOCACY OBJECTIVES AND OUR COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING REQUESTS. ALSO CALLED EARMARKS. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RALPH TO DO OUR 2024 ACCOMPLISHMENTS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. AND THEN LOOKING FORWARD AT THE NEXT SESSION OF CONGRESS, OUR OVERARCHING FEDERAL ADVOCACY OBJECTIVES ARE TO SECURE FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING, ENGAGE LEGISLATORS ON AREAS OF LEGISLATION THAT IMPACT THE CITY, AND TO MONITOR AND

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SO IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY. THE CITY SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING THREE REQUESTS DENTON PD SPECIAL EVENT SECURITY PROTECTIVE BARRIERS OR BOLLARDS. THIS WOULD FUND THE INSTALLATION OF RETRACTABLE BOLLARDS AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. DURING EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES. THE HICKORY CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR PROJECT, WHICH WOULD UPGRADE AGING WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALLOW FOR EXPANSION OF HOURS OF SERVICE ON THE WEST SIDE OF DENTON NEAR THE AIRPORT. THAT'S EXPECTED TO SEE A LOT OF GROWTH, AND THEN THE NORTH BRANCH WATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH WOULD ALSO FUND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SEWER LINE ON THE WEST SIDE OF DENTON TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXPECTED GROWTH IN THE AREA. IN APRIL, CONGRESSMAN JACKSON'S OFFICE NOTIFIED US OF HIS INTENT TO INCLUDE THE NORTH MARSH BRANCH PROJECT IN HIS SUBMISSIONS TO THE HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AT $4.3 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT 50% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST, AND THEN IN JUNE, WE HEARD FROM THE APPROPRIATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY RELEASED THEIR FUNDING TABLES FOR THE FY 2025 HUD, TRANSPORTATION, HUD, APPROPRIATIONS BILL, WHICH INCLUDED $2 MILLION FOR THE MARSH BRANCH WATER WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SO THE FY 2025 BUDGET WILL NOT BE FINALIZED UNTIL DECEMBER OR LATER. THE 2024 BUDGET PROCESS WAS NOT FINALIZED, I THINK UNTIL THIS EARLY SPRING. SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SEVERAL MONTHS OUT, BUT STAFF WILL CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND PROVIDE UPDATES TO COUNCIL AS THE BUDGET PROCESS MOVES FORWARD. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RALPH, WHO CAN TAKE US INTO SOME OF OUR 2024 ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND SOME OF OUR GRANTS THAT WE'VE BEEN GRANTED. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, RALPH KHABUSHAN WITH CAPITAL EDGE. AND DO I JUST USE THE MOUSE? SO JUST WANT TO HIT REALLY QUICKLY ON SOME 2024 ACCOMPLISHMENTS. I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT IN A FEW SLIDES ABOUT UNFINISHED BUSINESS, BUT BUT WE DID HAVE AN ACTIVE 2024 AND 2023. WE WORKED WITH EPA AND THE CITY CFO ON ON A WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE INNOVATION ACT. WIFIA LOAN FOR WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CITY OF DENTON. WORKED WITH THE TEXAS PUBLIC POWER ASSOCIATION AND YOUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION WHO WERE REALLY THAT WAS A THAT WAS JUST A LOT OF HELP FROM YOUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION ON NEW EFFICIENCY STANDARDS FOR ELECTRIC DISTRIBUTION TRANSFORMERS. THAT'S A HARD ONE TO SAY THAT IN THE END, I THINK BALANCED INCREASED EFFICIENCY WITHOUT EXACERBATING ONGOING SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES FOR THOSE TRANSFORMERS. WE ARE WORKING AND WE'RE DOING THIS NOW. CHRISTY MENTIONED WE THAT CONGRESS HAS NOT FINALIZED THE FY 2025 BUDGET YET. WE ARE WORKING TO TRY TO GET SOME SOME FUNDING UNDER THE DEFENSE PRODUCTION ACT TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE SUPPLY

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THERE IS NEWS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS THAT THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER ON A FARM BILL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT THAT'S STILL, I KNOW I AGREE WITH THAT WAS MY REACTION TO I WAS LIKE, I WOULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED THAT ONE, BUT BUT THEY MIGHT BE CLOSE TO ACTUALLY DOING A LONG TERM REAUTHORIZATION OF THE FARM BILL BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR. THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, THAT IS A PERENNIAL PROBLEM CHILD. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY JUST DO ANOTHER ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF CURRENT LAW. THAT PROGRAM FACES A $20 BILLION DEBT AND THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IS MATHEMATICALLY EASY. BUT POLITICALLY DIFFICULT. AND THE TAX BILL I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. I'LL KIND OF GO PAST THAT. BUT THEY THEY MIGHT ALSO TRY TO FINISH WORK ON COMPREHENSIVE MENTAL HEALTH LEGISLATION. I THINK A WATER RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT ACT. THAT'S WHAT AUTHORIZES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, CIVIL WORKS PROJECTS. THAT IS A STRONG CANDIDATE TO GET DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN THESE LAST TWO ARE TWO THAT GIVE ME REAL PAUSE.

JOB TRAINING REAUTHORIZATION. THE HOUSE HAS PASSED A JOB TRAINING REAUTHORIZATION BILL.

THEY PASSED IT WITH A STRONG BIPARTISAN MAJORITY AT 300. SOME VOTES IN FAVOR OF IT, 99.5% OF THAT BILL IS JUST A STANDARD REAUTHORIZATION OF JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS. THERE'S ONE PROVISION IN THAT BILL THAT WOULD GIVE THE GOVERNORS ALMOST UNILATERAL AUTHORITY TO ABOLISH LOCAL WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARDS. SO IF WORKFORCE REAUTHORIZATION IS SOMETHING THAT MOVES IN THE LAME DUCK, THAT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PRESERVE LOCAL WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARDS AND THEN TELECOM PREEMPTION, THE HOUSE ENERGY AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE HAS APPROVED A REALLY BROAD TELECOM PREEMPTION BILL. IF THERE'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY WITH TELECOMMUNICATIONS, THIS BILL WOULD PREEMPT IT. SO I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GO FORWARD. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THE INDUSTRY IS PUSHING HARD TO GET THAT ATTACHED TO SOME FINAL PIECE OF LEGISLATION BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REMAIN VIGILANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO I SAID UNFINISHED BUSINESS. DECEMBER 20TH. THERE ARE BILLS THAT WILL MOVE THE DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL, POSSIBLY A BUDGET. OTHERS, THEY'RE TEEING UP A BIG OMNIBUS LANDS BILL. SO ANY OF THESE

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AND A MONTH AGO I THOUGHT, WELL, THEY WON'T REALLY GET TO A TAX BILL UNTIL THE SUMMER. WE HAVE SOME TIME TO EDUCATE CONGRESS ABOUT WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT TIMELINE HAS NOW BEEN ACCELERATED GOING INTO THE 2017 TAX BILL. WE HAD A LOT OF TIME. WE DID A LOT OF EDUCATING.

DEBORAH AND I WERE BOTH INVOLVED. ONE OF THE MAYORS WE WORKED FOR WAS THE CHAIR OF MUNICIPAL BONDS FOR AMERICA. SO WE DID A LOT OF EDUCATING OF CAPITOL HILL STAFF. WE DID MUNI BONDS ONE ON ONE SESSIONS, MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE HOUSE AND SENATE SIDES. WE MET WITH MEMBERS OF THE WAYS AND MEANS AND FINANCE COMMITTEES. MOST CONGRESSIONAL STAFFERS NOW WERE PROBABLY IN HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE IN 2017. SO THOSE EFFORTS HAVE TO BE REDONE, AND THEY HAVE TO BE REDONE, I THINK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. WHEN CHRISTIE TALKED ABOUT DME, SHE MENTIONED REINSTATING ADVANCED REFUNDING OF MUNICIPAL BONDS. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE GIVEN THE SEARCH FOR OFFSETS. BUT CERTAINLY ONE THE SALT DEDUCTION, THE 2017 TAX BILL CAPPED THAT AT $10,000. THAT'S THE STATE AND LOCAL TAX DEDUCTION. ON THE CAMPAIGN.

PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE WANTED TO ELIMINATE THAT CAP. DOING SO. DOING SO WILL COST THE TREASURY A LOT OF MONEY. AND IT'S ALSO INTERESTINGLY, A GIFT TO TAXPAYERS IN NEW YORK, CONNECTICUT, CALIFORNIA, MASSACHUSETTS. YOU GET THE TREND OF WHAT KINDS OF STATES THOSE ARE. AND THEN I THINK PRESERVING THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, DIRECT PAY, CLEAN TAX INCENTIVES, CLEAN ENERGY TAX INCENTIVES IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER PRIORITY. BUT I THINK I PUT MUNICIPAL BONDS IN ITALICS AND BOLDS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS THAT IS AN EXISTENTIAL ONE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. LOOKING FORWARD, I MENTIONED THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAW EXPIRES AT THE END OF FY 2026. THE NEXT CONGRESS WILL START WORK ON ITS SUCCESSOR. IF HISTORY IS ANY GUIDE, THEY WON'T GET THAT DONE ON TIME, BUT THEY'LL LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR ITS SUCCESSOR BILL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT PRIORITIES ARE OUR LOCALIZATION OF THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN DO THAT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAW CREATED A NEW PROGRAM. THE SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL PROGRAM. DENTON HAS RECEIVED A GRANT UNDER THAT PROGRAM. THAT'S $1 BILLION A YEAR FOR LOCAL INVESTMENTS. STATE DOTS CAN APPLY FOR THAT MONEY. ONLY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN ON SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL. PRESERVING THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM. I THINK, WILL BE A PRIORITY. THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT FUNDS RECREATIONAL TRAILS AND SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS. DENTON HAS DONE WELL UNDER THAT PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE PECAN CREEK TRAIL AND THEN PRESERVATION OF THE FEDERAL TRANSIT PROGRAM, AND THAT I COVERED A LOT OF TERRITORY REALLY QUICKLY. SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. SO YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE FARM

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SO IT CAN'T BE RECAPTURED. AND THOSE ARE MOSTLY ONE TIME GRANTS. BUT THEN A BIG PART OF THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT IS, IS A LOT OF CLEAN ENERGY TAX INCENTIVES, INCLUDING 12 SPECIFICALLY THAT CONGRESS SAID THESE 12 TAX INCENTIVES, THE CLEAN ENERGY INVESTMENT TAX CREDIT, CLEAN ENERGY PRODUCTION TAX CREDIT, AND THE ALTERNATIVE FUELS ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES TAX CREDIT AND A BUNCH OF OTHERS, THEY SAID. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND OTHER ENTITIES WITHOUT TAX LIABILITY CAN CLAIM THESE TAX INCENTIVES AND THESE TAX. IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK A BECAUSE THEY BRING IN A LOT OF REVENUE AND B BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEN AS PARTIZAN. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING, RATHER THEY'RE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK BECAUSE ELIMINATING THEM WOULD BRING A LOT OF REVENUE. THEY'RE COSTING THE TREASURY A LOT OF MONEY. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OF WHERE BOTH PRIVATE SECTOR AND NONPROFIT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHERE THESE INVESTMENTS SPURRED BY THESE TAX CREDITS ARE GOING, THEY'RE GOING TO PREDOMINANTLY REPUBLICAN STATES. TEXAS HAS DONE VERY WELL UNDER THESE TAX INCENTIVES. WEST VIRGINIA HAS DONE VERY WELL. KANSAS HAS DONE VERY WELL. SO AND PARTICULARLY IN STATES LIKE WEST VIRGINIA, THEY'RE CREATING A LOT OF JOBS WHERE THERE WEREN'T MANY JOBS PREVIOUSLY. SO POLITICALLY, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THEY CAN REPEAL THESE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THEY SURVIVE. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT RONNY JACKSON. SURE. AND THE GOOD WORK THAT HE'S DONE REGARDING THE TRANSFORMERS. AND THE QUESTION NOW BECOMES THE OTHER TWO ISSUES THAT WE ASK FOR HIM TO TAKE A LOOK AT. AM I GETTING THAT CORRECT? IT WAS TWO OTHER. CAN YOU. OH, THE FUNDING HE GOT FOR MY BRANCH. YES. THOSE TWO THAT ONE. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE FOR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO THAT. OH LOOK AT YOU. THAT'S HOW YOU DO THAT. YEAH. THAT. NO THAT. RIGHT THERE DIDN'T PD SPECIAL EVENT DOWNTOWN. IS THAT GOING TO BE IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO. THE OTHER TWO. ARE WE SO UNDER UNDER THE HOUSE RULES. YEAH. EACH EACH HOUSE MEMBER IS LIMITED TO 15 REQUESTS FOR THEIR WHOLE DISTRICT OKAY. AND SO WE SUBMITTED THREE REQUESTS TO REPRESENTATIVE JACKSON AND HE CHOSE ONE OF OUR THREE. AND HE CHOSE ONE OF THE THREE OKAY. SO AND THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE WASTEWATER. RIGHT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH I'M JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS MAGNIFICENT GROWTH THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GOING TOWARD THE WEST. AND SO IT WAS REQUESTED 6.9, AND WE ENDED UP WITH TWO.

AND THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD FOR THIS PROCESS. OH, IT'S PRETTY STANDARD BECAUSE I WAS IT'S AT THE 6.9. IS THAT A OVER OVER ASK. THAT WAS OUR THAT AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S IN AND NOT JUST WE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY SUBMIT THESE REQUESTS. YEAH. SO ARE WE

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SO ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE THE TWO WILL SUFFICE FOR NOW.

ARE WE OKAY WITH TWO? I THINK THAT THAT THE APPEAL OF THIS REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATIVE JACKSON. SO IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, IF YOU IF YOU OBTAIN AN EARMARK AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE 15 FOR YOUR WHOLE DISTRICT, OKAY. SO YOU WANT IT TO BE 15 THAT YOU KNOW ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. OKAY. AND I THINK THE APPEAL OF THIS ONE WAS THAT, THAT IF HE GOT HIS $2 MILLION, WE COULD STILL COMPLETE THE PROJECT. OKAY. AND, AND THAT AND THAT THAT'S CREDIT TO THE CITY STAFF AS WELL. OKAY. MY MIND ENDEAVORS. WORST NIGHTMARE IS WHEN OUR CLIENTS ASK FOR A PROJECT THAT IF THEY DON'T GET THE FULL AMOUNT, CAN'T MOVE FORWARD. OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GETTING THAT. GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF. AND SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO HIM AGAIN. AND WE'RE GOING TO STAY WITH THESE OTHER TWO. HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR US.

YEAH. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH A PROCESS THE SAME THAT WE DID THIS YEAR IN COLLECTING THESE, WORKING WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO KIND OF GATHER WHAT PROJECTS THEY HAVE ON THE HORIZON AND WHERE THE NEEDS ARE, WILL COMPILE A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT AND KIND OF CULL THROUGH THEM AND NARROW THEM DOWN TO 1 TO 3 OPTIONS FOR NEXT YEAR. SO WE LIKELY WILL NOT UTILIZE THESE SAME PROJECTS. IT'LL BE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BUT I WILL SAY TO YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION, THESE ARE ALL EXISTING PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO TAKE ON REGARDLESS OF FEDERAL FUNDING. SO IT'S JUST A GREAT BENEFIT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THE FEDERAL WHAT WE HAVE. AND THESE PROJECTS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AT WHATEVER PACE THEY NEED TO FOR US TO FUND THEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAD. I APPRECIATE IT, AND I WILL SAY THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE. JUST AS A GENERAL AS WE IDENTIFY OUR REQUESTS FOR NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NEW HOUSE MEMBER WHO MIGHT ALSO ACCEPT, EARMARK REQUEST. AND IT'S IMPORTANT WE BE AWARE OF DISTRICT LINES. MEMBERS ARE VERY WARY OF ASKING FOR, EVEN IF IT BENEFITS A CITY THEY REPRESENT, IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THEIR DISTRICT THEY WANT, THEY'RE VERY WARY OF DOING SOMETHING IN A IN ONE OF THEIR COLLEAGUES DISTRICTS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU. MAYOR DEBORAH RALPH. THANK YOU GUYS FOR TRAVELING DOWN TO FROM DC FOR THIS TO PICK UP RIGHT WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD LEFT OFF. TALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IN APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. SO AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED FOR SEVEN. HE SAID HE'D FIGHT FOR FOUR. WE ENDED UP GETTING TWO. DOES EACH MEMBER IS THAT MORE SENIORITY BASED? DOES EACH MEMBER GET KIND OF AN ASSUMED AMOUNT BASED ON GEOGRAPHIC SIZE VERSUS POPULATION SIZE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S ROUGHLY EQUAL FOR THE MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO THE 15 PROJECTS EVERY MEMBER FROM THE SPEAKER TO THE MOST JUNIOR MEMBER CAN SUBMIT 15. BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. YEAH, THAT THAT SENIORITY AND WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE DOES PLAY. SO A MORE SENIOR MEMBER, A SENIOR APPROPRIATOR IS GOING TO HAVE MORE MONEY TO SPREAD AMONG HIS OR HER 15 THAN A FRESHMAN MEMBER OF CONGRESS IS SO. BUT THE RANGE AND YOU SEE, WE GOT $2 MILLION. THAT'S KIND OF THE SWEET SPOT. IF THIS IS JUST A WILD GUESS.

BUT AS I LOOK AT THE LIST OF EARMARKS IN THE IN THE HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS BILLS, JUST LOOKING AT THEM, I WOULD SAY IF YOU AVERAGE IT, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT $2 MILLION. IS THE AVERAGE SIZE OF AN EARMARK AFTER THE BUDGET IS FINALIZED, HOW AND WHEN? IF PASSED, WOULD THE MONEY COME TO THE CITY? THAT'S HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT WORK? I, I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT.

SO IN THIS CASE, THE, THE, THE FUNDING THAT REPRESENTATIVE JACKSON SECURED COMES OUT OF THE HUD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE. AND, AND THERE'S PROBABLY EACH YEAR ABOUT 400 PROJECTS UNDER THE HUD ACCOUNT. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S SO IT TAKES SOME TIME BEFORE THE CITY ACTUALLY DRAWS DOWN THE MONEY. ALTHOUGH SINCE THE EARMARKS CAME BACK IN FY 2022, HUD IS HAS HUD AND OTHER AGENCIES HAVE GOTTEN FASTER AND FASTER AT GETTING THE MONEY OUT? BUT IT DOES TAKE IF THEY FINALIZE WELL, THEY FINALIZED FY 2024 IN MARCH. AND I THINK HUD IS STARTING TO AWARD SOME OF THE FY 2024 MONEY NOW. SO SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS. OKAY. BUT

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[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding Audit Project 037 - Community Housing Initiatives. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

MAJOR TASKS THAT SHOULD BE INTRODUCED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS INCLUDE CREATING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY DISTRICT, ESTABLISHING A LOW INCOME HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM, AND DEVELOPING AN EVICTION PREVENTION PROGRAM. WHILE FUNDS FOR THESE PROJECTS WERE INITIALLY LIMITED, THE VOTER APPROVED 2023 BOND PROGRAM ALLOCATED $15 MILLION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES TO BE DISTRIBUTED EVENLY OVER THE NEXT THREE FISCAL YEARS.

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THE REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS ALIGNS WITH FEDERAL FEDERAL REGULATIONS, AS WELL AS OTHER TEXAS CITIES. BASED ON OUR REVIEW FOR THE 2020 2022 CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THE CITY HAS A GOAL HAD A GOAL TO ASSIST 123 HOUSEHOLDS OVER THREE YEARS WITH ITS HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND MUST MAINTAIN AN ANNUAL SPENDING RATIO BASED ON OUR VIEW, THE CITY ASSISTED 176 HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH ITS DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY MANAGED HOUSING PROGRAMS, AS SHOWN IN THE TABLE.

IN ADDITION, DURING PROGRAM YEAR 2022 AND 2023, THE CITY SPENT ABOUT 60% OF ITS AWARDED FUNDS, ALLOWING IT TO MAINTAIN THE REQUIRED ANNUAL SPENDING RATIO OF 1.5. IN ADDITION, BASED ON A SURVEY OF INDIVIDUALS WHO APPLIED FOR THE MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, 90% INDICATED THAT THE PROGRAM ASSISTED THEM WITH THEIR IMMEDIATE HOUSING NEEDS, AND 93 INDICATED 93% INDICATED THEY WOULD APPLY AGAIN IF NEEDED, INDICATING THAT THE PROGRAM IS GENERALLY EFFECTIVE WHEN USED STILL DURING CALENDAR YEAR 2023, THE CITY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY APPLICATIONS FOR ITS RENTAL, REPAIR, OR HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, SEEMINGLY DUE TO ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT WERE NOT EFFECTIVE. COMMUNITY SERVICES HAS SINCE STARTED UPDATING THIS CRITERIA, INCLUDING REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT THAT RENTAL PROPERTIES BE RECENTLY PURCHASED AND INCREASING THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HOME SALE PRICE. SALE PRICE BASED ON A AFFORDABILITY STUDY IN ADDITION, COMMUNITY SERVICES HAS ESTABLISHED SOME MARKETING EFFORTS FOR ITS ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, INCLUDING CREATING BROCHURES THAT ARE SHARED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.

OTHER MATERIALS THAT THEY SHARE WITH NONPROFIT PARTNERS, AND DTV ADS. WE IDENTIFIED A FEW AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT. SPECIFICALLY, THE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES SATISFACTION SURVEYS TO APPLICANTS. HOWEVER, THESE DO NOT INCLUDE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW APPLICANTS BECAME AWARE OF THE PROGRAM, MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT THE INITIAL SOURCE OF AWARENESS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SERVICES CURRENTLY COLLECTS DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ABOUT ITS PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS.

HOWEVER, THIS DATA IS NOT CLEARLY USED TO INFORM MARKETING EFFORTS. WE BELIEVE THIS INFORMATION COULD BE USED TO BETTER TARGET EFFORTS AND ENSURE THEY ARE EFFECTIVE AND AS EFFECTIVE, AND EQUITABLE AS POSSIBLE, BASED ON THEIR MANAGEMENT RESPONSES. COMMUNITY SERVICES PLANS TO UPDATE ITS SATISFACTION SURVEYS AND USE IT TO REFINE MARKETING EFFORTS IN THE FUTURE. FINALLY, FEDERAL FUNDS USED TO SUPPORT THESE PROGRAMS MUST BE APPROPRIATELY MANAGED TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY CONTINUES TO RECEIVE THIS ASSISTANCE. SPECIFICALLY, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING AND AWARDING HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GRANTS. IN GENERAL, WE FOUND THAT COMMUNITY SERVICES HAS CREATED AN ACCESSIBLE AND EFFECTIVE PROCESS TO EVALUATE MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM APPLICATIONS. HOWEVER, EVALUATION OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS WAS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS.

SPECIFICALLY, APPLICATIONS MAY BE SUBMITTED PHYSICALLY OR ONLINE IN ENGLISH, SPANISH, OR FRENCH, AND APPLICANTS IN INDICATED THAT THE THEY SORRY THAT THE PROCESS WAS CLEAR AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND, AS SHOWN IN THE FIGURE ON THE SLIDE. IN ADDITION, BASED ON A REVIEW OF 50 MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM APPLICANT APPLICATIONS, ALL BUT ONE HAD ADEQUATE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT THE APPLICANT EITHER MET OR DID NOT MEET THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, WITH THE ONE EXCEPTION MISSING A DENIAL JUSTIFICATION DUE THAT, BUT THERE WAS INDICATION THAT IT WAS DUE TO BEING IN THE FLOODPLAIN. WHILE ALMOST ALL DOCUMENTATION WAS EVENTUALLY FOUND, WE DID HAVE TROUBLE INITIALLY LOCATING IT AS MOST DOCUMENTS WERE NOT ORIGINALLY STORED IN THE DEPARTMENT'S APPLICATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. CONSISTENT RETENTION OF DOCUMENTATION IN THE SYSTEM WOULD HELP ENSURE DOCUMENTS ARE READILY AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE.

IN ADDITION, ALL MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM VENDORS APPEARED TO BE AWARDED CONTRACTS FOR THE CITY'S PROCESS AND WERE ONLY PAID FOR ACTUAL WORK PERFORMED AS VERIFIED BY THE PROGRAM APPLICANT. FURTHER, ALL THE CITY'S REQUESTS FOR EXPENDITURE REIMBURSEMENTS APPEARED TO

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QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. NO. FOUR FOUR. THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE MOST COMMON MINOR REPAIRS? NOT A LIS. DO YOU HAVE THE TYPE OF VENDORS, AIR CONDITIONING, ROOFING, THAT SORT OF THING? I'D HAVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU, BUT I CAN. OKAY.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT TWO. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR MOST THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE'RE KIND OF DOING A PRETTY DECENT JOB OF GETTING OUR PROGRAMS IN OFF THE GROUND ENGAGED WITH THE PUBLIC.

I APPLAUD STAFF FOR THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE, THOUGH WE HAVE SOME UNMET NEEDS IN TERMS OF MARKETING PENETRATION IN INTO LARGER CUSTOMER BASE. SO MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO REVOLVE AROUND THAT. WELL, A BIG ONE I'LL JUST THROW OUT THERE IS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME WAGE CONTROL ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE NICE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE TACKLE THAT AT THE CIVIC LEVEL, BUT THOSE AREN'T THE MAJOR PART OF MY QUESTIONS. HI DANNY SHAW, COMMUNITY SERVICES NO, NO WAGE CONTROL ISSUES WHERE WE'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING A COUPLE OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE TO DO WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND ONE OF THEM FOR THE HOME BUYERS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THE OTHER ONE, JUST THE RULES WE HAD SET INITIALLY. ONE IS A NEW PROGRAM. WE JUST NEEDED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD MORE APPLICATIONS BASED ON THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE LEARN SOME STUFF FROM. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. I DIDN'T MEAN THE WAGE WAGE LIKE CAPS FOR OUR PROGRAM. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO, JUST MORE THAT IN THE DISCUSSION, THE BACKUP IT WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE STRESSORS AND PRESSURES ON ON THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES. SURE. YES. THERE'S CERTAINLY A MARKET NEED. THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE TO IT WAS UNCLEAR. WE HAD SOME. WHAT WAS THE BACKUP ACCESSIBILITY CHANGES FOR THE LANDLORD RENTAL GRANT REPAIR PROGRAM? WHAT WHAT WHAT DID WE CHANGE THERE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO THERE? SO BECAUSE OF URA, WHICH IS A FEDERAL REGULATION, WE WERE WE SET THE ORIGINAL RULES TO SORT OF HELP US MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T DISPLACING PEOPLE IN ORDER TO DO THIS PROGRAM. SO WE HAD A RULE ABOUT THAT. THE PURCHASE HAD TO BE A NEW PURCHASE. AND VACANT BEFORE WE WOULD ALLOW THE LANDLORD TO TAKE FUNDS FROM FEDERAL DOLLARS AND THEN REPAIR IT AND THEN MAKE IT AFFORDABLE.

OKAY. WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE A SMALL ADJUSTMENT TO THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A NEW PURCHASE, BUT IT STILL HAS TO BE VACANT. YEAH. AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DISPLACING PEOPLE IN ORDER TO DO THIS PROGRAM AND THEN NOT HAVING THEM COME BACK TO THE HOUSING. YEAH, I SAW THAT, I SAW THAT, AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS THE SAME ITEM. SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THA. YES, THE OTHER TWO, I KNOW THAT QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ARE KIND OF SIMILAR. SO I'M GOING TO STATE THEM TOGETHER. BUT I KNOW THAT WITH FUNDING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE USING TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS ARE EXPIRING. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO INCREASE THE PORTFOLIO OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AS AS WE GO FORWARD? BECAUSE THAT WAS A REAL CONCERN THAT YOUR PROGRAMS SEEM LIKE THEY'RE BEING IMPLEMENTED REALLY WELL. AND WE'RE WORKING ON EXPANDING AND PENETRATING A BROADER MARKET, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD IF YOU RUN OUT OF MONEY. SURE. SO CDBG AND HOME ARE THE PRIMARY FUNDERS FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE RUN. AND THEN WE HAVE BOND FUNDS FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOOLKIT. RIGHT NOW. AND SO WHAT MADISON, I THINK WAS IN THE REPORT TALKING ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT THE BOND FUNDS ARE ONLY THREE YEARS, RIGHT? AND SO THOSE WILL WE WILL SPEND THOSE AND THEN MAYBE GO BACK FOR MORE, BUT WE WON'T HAVE A GUARANTEED SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIC TOOLKIT. BUT WHAT YOU ALSO HEARD FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION IS WE MIGHT HAVE SOME RISK AROUND CDBG AND HOME AND POTENTIAL CUTS THERE THAT WOULD REDUCE THOSE PROGRAMS AS WELL. BUT OTHERWISE WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT HOW WE FUND THOSE PROGRAMS SUSTAINABLY OVER TIME. AS SHE MENTIONED IN THE AUDIT. AND I GUESS THIS GOES ALONG WITH THAT, THAT EVERYTHING IS FUNDING. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT HAVE WE LAND BANKED ANY PARCELS? I KNOW WE DO LAND BANKING FOR PARKS AND FOR OTHER THINGS, BUT IN THIS SUB AREA OF CITY LAND BANKING HAVE WE DONE ANY LAND BANK? NO, WE DID ANALYSIS AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED

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DOES THAT THAT HELP IN THE DISCUSSION? BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE A NONPROFIT LIKE HABITAT OR THEY'RE AN LLC OR WHATEVER. IF THEY HAVE A PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO PURCHASE, AND THEN RENOVATE IT WITH THESE FUNDS IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT FUNDING, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE IT AS AFFORDABLE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLEAR UP. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT TAKES US TO ITEM C ID 241929 RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE

[C. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding amending the Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number One Creation Ordinance and the Project and Financing Plan. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

WELL, THAT WHAT WAS HELD LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER AND THEN THEY ALSO WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD CATALYTIC PROJECTS THAT WOULD UTILIZE THE TOURIST FUNDS AND SO SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD A FEW CHANGES. YOU HAVE A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A FULL TIME MAIN STREET MANAGER, KRISTIN PELUTHO, WHO IS SOLELY FOCUSED TO FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN PROJECTS.

AND SHE PRIMARILY MANAGES THE DOWNTOWN REINVESTMENT GRANT PROGRAM IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WHICH INCLUDED PROJECT AND FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN EXPANSION OF THE TOURS. THANK YOU COUNCIL. AND ON SEPTEMBER

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WHEN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN WAS CREATED, THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED THAT WE PARTICIPATE AT A DECREASING RATE. SO FROM YEARS ONE THROUGH FIVE WE PARTICIPATED AT 100%.

YEAR SIX THROUGH 1,095%. YEARS 11 THROUGH 2,090%, AND YEARS 21 THROUGH 30 AT 85%. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY AT PARTICIPATING A 90%. YEAR 13. THE EXISTING BOUNDARY CONSISTS OF 226 ACRES AND THE BASE VALUE STARTED AT $79.4 MILLION BACK IN 2010. AND SO THE INITIAL PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN, THE CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDED THAT WE PUT THE FUNDS IN TO FOUR DIFFERENT BUCKETS, INCLUDING PARKING, TRANSPORTATION, COMPLETE STREETS, SUPPORT FOR DOWNTOWN PROJECTS, WHICH IS OUR INCENTIVES AND UTILITY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, FOR A TOTAL OF $24.8 MILLION. SO THIS CHART IS A SNAPSHOT OF OUR CURRENT CERTIFIED TAX VALUES FROM 2010 TO 2023. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S WE'VE HAD A NATURAL GROWTH DUE TO RISING PROPERTY TAXES.

AND ALSO WE'VE HAD A FEW CATALYTIC PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE RAIL YARD DOWNTOWN, WHICH WHERE THAT'S WHERE STOKE CO-WORKING OFFICES. AND IT HAS MULTIFAMILY IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. IN TOTAL, WE'VE HAD OVER $188 MILLION INCREASE IN VALUATION SINCE 2010. THE CURRENT TRS FUND INCREMENT. THIS IS ALSO A SNAPSHOT OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD. IN TOTAL, THE FUND HAS COLLECTED A LITTLE OVER $6.6 MILLION. OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE IS $4.4 MILLION, AND OUR LIFETIME EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN $2.2 MILLION. AND SO OUR LARGEST EXPENDITURE TO DATE HAS BEEN A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED DOWNTOWN FOR PEDESTRIAN STREET LIGHTING ACROSS SIDEWALKS AND ADA RAMPS. AND THAT WENT ON NORTH OF LOCUST NORTH ELM, WEST OAK, AND WEST HICKORY STREET. AND OF COURSE, OUR DOWNTOWN REINVESTMENT GRANTS. WE'VE HAD OVER 68 GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED WITH AN AVERAGE OF $12,000. AND CHRIS PLANS TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM AND GETTING MORE ON THE LIST. SO WHY ARE WE BRINGING TO YOU THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED THE IMPORTANCE OF DENTON'S DOWNTOWN CHARACTER AND IDENTITY. SO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO CONTINUE THAT MOMENTUM AND FIND THE RIGHT PROJECTS TO COME DOWNTOWN. THE MEN GROUP WHO WORKED ON THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN STATED THAT THE TERS BOUNDARIES ARE LIMITED, AND THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO EXPAND AND COVER THE GREATER DOWNTOWN AREA. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE SLIDE, THE EXISTING TERS BOUNDARIES OUTLINED BY A SOLID LINE AND THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES ARE OUTLINED BY A DOTTED LINE. AND SO THE MEN GROUP WANTED US TO INCLUDE CARROLL STREET ALL THE WAY TO UNIVERSITY, JUST INCLUDING THE RIGHT OF WAYS NORTH ON ELM AND LOCUST, INCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, AND ALSO INCLUDING QUAKERTOWN PARK AND SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN. AS YOU RECALL, IN THE MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS QUITE A FEW CATALYTIC PROJECTS THAT WERE PROPOSED, AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE COVERED WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES AND ALSO LAST YEAR, THE U.S.

CENSUS BUREAU RANKED DENTON LARN THE UNITED STATES IN POPULATION. AND SO WE ARE A GROWING CITY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SHAPING THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY, INCLUDING DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS THE HEART OF THE OF OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, I'LL PASS THIS TO DAVID PETTIT, WHO HAS CONTINUED TO WORK ON THE AMENDMENT, AND HE WILL GO OVER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT DETAILS. BRITTANY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL TODAY. WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, I THINK BRITTANY DID A GREAT JOB LEADING UP TO THE HISTORY, AND I THINK THE REAL IMPORTANCE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN BEHIND US. IT GIVES US A CLEAR VISION ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF EXPANDING THE BOUNDARIES FOR WHAT WE CALL TERS ONE A BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT BASE YEAR. WE CALL IT TERS ONE AND TERS ONE A IF APPROVED. THIS YEAR THE NEW BOUNDARY WOULD HAVE A 2024 BASE. WE ARE MAKING A SLIGHT ADMINISTRATIVE TWEAK TO THE EXTENSION OF THE ZONE. THE ZONE PLAN TO EXPIRE IN JANUARY 1ST TO 2039. AND WE'RE EXPANDING THAT TO 20TH DECEMBER 31ST, 2039, WITH THE FINAL YEAR'S TAX INCREMENT TO BE COLLECTED SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2040. THAT JUST

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FAMOUS DON RUMSFELD, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE BETWEEN NOW AND 2039. SO WE DO AN OUTLINE, A SUGGESTED OUTLINE THAT EVERYTHING IS ELIGIBLE UNDER THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN PER CHAPTER 311. SO WHATEVER IS ALLOWED UNDER THE STATUTE. BUT THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT THERE'S TWO MOTHER MAY EYES. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR TIF MONEY, THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE TIF BOAR. MOTHER, MAY I AND DOES THAT FALL AND MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 311 AND THEN IT HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE FINAL APPROVAL OF THAT. SO WE ALLOW THIS TO BE FLEXIBLE, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF THIS MIGHT BE IN GRANTS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO CONVERT SOME OF THOSE PARKING LOTS INTO VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY MIGHT BE USING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANTS OR WE'RE USING SOME OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG CARROLL. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO COME FORWARD. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH DEVELOPERS, BUT THIS $50 MILLION IS AN ESTIMATE OF THE INCREMENTAL VALUE OVER THE TERM.

BUT BETWEEN NOW AND 2040, BASED UPON GROWTH IN THOSE DEVELOPMENT ASSUMPTIONS. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SAY IS SAVINGS FROM ONE LINE ITEM CAN BE APPLIED TO THE COST INCREASE IN ANOTHER. BUT THIS IS A CAP ON EXPENDITURES JUST AS THE PREVIOUS ONE. IT'S A CAP ON THE EXPENDITURES. SO OUR EXPANSION OF THIS AREA. SO THE NEW AREA IS ABOUT 150 ACRES. AND IT TAKES US TO A TOTAL OF 450, ABOUT 450 ACRES. WE'RE GOING ON A PARALLEL TRACK KEEPING THE SAME TERM. SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS EXPANDING THE BOUNDARY. AND SO BUT THIS BASICALLY GIVES US WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS IF WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND WE HAVE THE PROTECTION THAT WE HAVE THE BELTS AND SUSPENDERS OF, WE HAVE THE TWO MOTHER I'S, THE TIF BOARD, THAT'S IT. AND THEN ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO COME BACK AND AMEND THE PLAN. EVERY, YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAYS, OH, I NEED MORE MONEY IN INFRASTRUCTURE VERSUS I NEED MONEY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO OUR NEXT STEPS ARE PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER THIRD, WHICH WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CREATION ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER FOURTH. WE WOULD HAVE A BOARD MEETING RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED PROJECT AND FINANCING

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WHY? WHY THAT PORTION VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BLOCK? BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT? JOG OVER WHERE IT IS? YEAH, I THINK THE BEST ANSWER IS, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE INPUT AND THAT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDED THE EXPANDED BOUNDARIES FOR THAT AREA. AND SO BRITTANY, IF YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S A PART OF THAT. BUT WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS KIND OF KEEP IT DOWN THE FAIRWAY. IF YOU WILL.

AND THIS IS WHAT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDED AS FAR AS THOSE APPROVED BOUNDARIES.

AND GIVE ANY COLOR THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. SURE. SO I THINK THE MAIN GROUP INITIALLY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD JUST THE RIGHT OF WAYS ON CARROLL STREET BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO POTENTIALLY IMPLEMENT CHILL STREETS OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SIDEWALKS, AND TINA IS ACTUALLY HERE WITH HER TEAM TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH THE GROUP. BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE LINES ARE A LITTLE BIT JAGGED BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY INCLUDE 10% OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND SO THE LINES AREN'T NECESSARILY LINEAR TO WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD. WE DO IN A NORMAL CHART OR A DRAWING. SO, TINA, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? WELL, I THINK THE 10% KIND OF ANSWERS MY QUESTION BECAUSE AS YOU GO NORTH ON CARROLL, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE HOMES AS WELL AS BUSINESSES. SO THAT THAT ANSWER HELPS EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT PORTION OF SOUTH CARROLL TO THE WEST OF CARROLL WAS INCLUDED VERSUS THE REST OF IT. AT THE TIME. AND SO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AT THE TIME OF CREATION, YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 10%. THAT'S RESIDENTIAL AND THAT'S RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S FIVE UNITS OR LESS. AND THE TIME OF AMENDMENT, YOU HAVE TO MEET THE SAME TEST. SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT EXISTING AND THEN WE'RE EXPANDING. THAT'S WHERE YOU MEET THE 10% TEST. YOU HAVE TO DO IT TWICE. AND THEN AS THIS IS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS THIS TAKEN WAS THIS PRESENTATION TAKEN TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD FOR THEIR INPUT? WE DID PRESENT AN OVERALL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE AMENDMENT, BUT WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY TAKEN THE PRESENTATION QUITE YET JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A SERIES OF STEPS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE. TAKING IT TO THE BOARD, NUMBER ONE, AND THEN ENSURE THAT WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, IS TAKE IT TO THE EDPB BOARD. YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN, SURE, BUT ALWAYS WANTING TO GET THE MOST WE CAN FROM OUR CITIZEN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, FOR SURE. WE CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE SO MANY BOARDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE HAVE ROUTED THIS THROUGH SO WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS AT THE GRANTS THAT FALL INTO THAT, WHICH IS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP BOARD. SO THAT CHECKS THAT BOX. NO. PERFECT.

AND SO OUR CHAIR, JEREMY FIKES, PRESENTED ON THAT AT EDPB, TALKING ABOUT IT AND BEING IN SUPPORT SINCE IT OPENS UP AND PROVIDES THAT CAPITAL INVESTMENT. SO IT WILL COME FORWARD. BUT I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON EACH OF THOSE BOARDS HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION AND HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF THE EXPANSION. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. AND THEN JUST FOR CONVERSATION, COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE LATER TODAY, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE IN THIS PRESENTATION, IT IS NOTED THAT THE NEED FOR THIS IN PART COMES FROM AND I'M GOING TO QUOTE LIMITED FUNDING TOOLS TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT AND CATALYST PROJECTS. AND THAT THIS PROJECT, WHILE GREAT AND I BELIEVE HOPEFULLY WILL PASS IT IS LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC SMALL AREA OF OUR TOWN. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, IS THE LIMIT THAT WE HAVE OF OUR TOOLS AND OUR TOOL KIT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. AND I'M DONE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. FIRST I'D LIKE A LITTLE DETAIL YOU WANT AND THEN I'LL GET INTO MORE MACRO TOPICS. SO THE ENABLING LEGISLATION SAID THAT ONCE YOU HIT 24.8 MILLION YOU'RE DONE.

RIGHT. SO THIS WILL CHANGE THAT. SO YOU CAN GET TO 50 MILLION. THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS

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AND ONCE AGAIN THAT WILL BE WORKED OUT AS PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD. AND THEY COME TO THE TIF BOARD. AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOU TO APPROVE. OKAY, I HEAR THAT I'M STILL I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EXPECTING YOU TO PRODUCE THIS. YOU KNOW, INSTANTANEOUSLY. BUT I FEEL I NEED TO SEE AT THIS POINT THE CONNECTIVE TISSUE BETWEEN HERE'S WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED. WE WANT TO RAISE MONEY FOR. AND EVERYONE REALIZED AT THE TIME IT WAS NOT ABOUT FUNDING, IT WAS ABOUT VISION. AND THEN CONNECT IT TO THE FUNDING. I DON'T THINK SURE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S SENSIBLE. IT IS FOR SURE. AND SO WE'VE HAD A FEW DEVELOPERS THAT ARE ALREADY INTERESTED IN COMING DOWNTOWN. HOWEVER, WE'VE BEEN HESITANT TO OFFER INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDING RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S ONE END OF IT. BUT ALSO, I THINK IT IS GOING TO RELY ON A SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ON WHICH PROJECTS THAT WE PRIORITIZE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE A SERIES OF LAND ACQUISITIONS AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR TO INCENTIVIZE THE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN. AND SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OF ENGAGING WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHICH PROJECTS IN THE MASTER PLAN WILL BE PRIORITIZED. I WILL SAY THAT THE REASON WHY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ALSO, IS THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE THIS BASE HERE VALUE, SO WE CAN START COLLECTING INCREMENT NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE IF WE WAIT UNTIL 2025 OR 2026, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WHICH IS GOING TO POSTPONE OUR PLANNING METHODS, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE GOING TRICK OR TREATING. IF YOU'RE GOING TO A HOUSE AND THERE'S NO CANDY, RIGHT? LIKE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING TO US AND THEY WANT TO COME, BUT WE'RE KIND OF WE HAVE TO BE JUDICIOUS WITH THE FUNDING. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT.

LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKING OFF ONE PART OF THE SHOPPING LIST INSTEAD OF THE OTHER, BUT I'M NOT SEEING ANY CONNECTION TO ANY PART OF THE SHOPPING LIST EXPLICITLY. AND IT'S JUST I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE WHO NEEDS TO SEE THAT. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE. I CAN COUNT.

MAYOR PRO TEM CHRISTINE TAYLOR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER I CAN TAKE A STAB AT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. SO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN BOUNDARY, OF COURSE, WAS MUCH LARGER THAN OUR ORIGINAL CHURCH BOUNDARY FOR PROJECTS. SO SEVERAL OF THOSE LARGE CATALYST PROJECTS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT QUAKERTOWN PARK OR TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN TOWARDS EAGLE, EXPANDING THAT BOUNDARY, YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE BOUNDARY FOR THE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FUNDING. TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE CATALYST PROJECTS. SO SEVERAL OF THOSE MAJOR CATALYST PROJECTS ARE OUTSIDE THE EXISTING BOUNDARY. SO IT'S TWOFOLD. IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR US TO FUND THOSE CATALYST PROJECTS AND PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY BASED ON THEIR LOCATION, TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CATALYST FUNDS, SO THAT IS A CONNECTION, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TIE IT TO INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VET THEM AND SEE HOW COUNCIL FEELS. BUT THE MAJOR

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[D. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the resolution of the Emergency Water Service provided to the Old Alton Drive neighborhood. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

SORRY. WHAT'S THAT DISCUSSION? YEAH. IT JUST IT JUST IT JUST MAKES IT SO. I MEAN, HERE, I'LL JUST. BEFORE WE GO, IT'S. SO I'LL GO BACK FOR A MOMENT. IS THERE ANYONE. SO THIS IS ITEM BACK ON ITEM C. DOES ANYONE AGAINST STAFF MOVING FORWARD AS AS OUTLINED IN IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION. NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU OKAY. SO THAT'S ONE. ANYONE ELSE. YES THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKIN.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT DOESN'T WANT TO PROCEED OTHER THAN COUNCIL MEMBER MELTZER OKAY.

THANK YOU. TAKES ITEM D ID 242213 RECEIVE REPORT WHOLE DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE RESOLUTION OF THE EMERGENCY WATER SERVICES SERVICE PROVIDED TO OLTON DRIVE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEPHEN GAY, GENERAL MANAGER OF WATER UTILITIES AND STREET OPERATIONS. I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE OLD ALTON EMERGENCY CONNECT WATER SUPPLY. SO LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS MOVING. THERE WE GO. SO THE OLD ALTON COMMUNITY IS ABOUT 21 HOMES ON OLD ALTON DRIVE. THERE ARE IT'S WITHIN TWO HOMES OR WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS. THE REST OF THE HOMES ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. IT'S WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON, CCN, WHICH IS OUR CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY. ALL HOMES ARE SUPPLIED BY GROUNDWATER WELL, AND THERE ARE A FEW HOMES THAT ARE ON ON CITY SEPTIC BUT ARE ON SEPTIC, AND ONLY TWO HOMES I BELIEVE ARE ON THE CITY'S WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM. IN MAY OF 2023, THERE. WELL, THE COMMUNITIES WELL FAILED. SO THE WELL FAILED DUE TO WHAT WE CALL SAND LOCKING WHERE THERE WAS SOME SAND IN THE WELL WHICH PREVENTED IT FROM PRODUCING DRINKING WATER. THERE ARE 41, SO AT THAT TIME THERE WERE 41 VIOLATIONS FROM T-C-E-Q ON THAT THE WELL, THE WELL OPERATIONS AND THAT WAS SINCE 2011, THE MAINTENANCE FUNDS WERE USED TO ADDRESS THE T-C-E-Q VIOLATIONS, AND THE FUNDING GAP RESULTED IN THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND THEREFORE THE WELL FAILED. TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AUTHORIZED AN EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DENTON SYSTEM AND THE OLD ALTON COMMUNITY THAT WAS IN MAY, AND COORDINATION HAS BEEN ONGOING BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE. COME UP WITH A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION. THIS IS A BRIEF TIMELINE OF THE SOLUTION HISTORY OR TRYING TO IDENTIFY A SOLUTION. I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT IN OCTOBER OF 23, WHERE THERE WAS A MEETING BETWEEN THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, AND THE TEXAS WATER INFRASTRUCTURE COORDINATION COMMITTEE AND THE OLD ALTON REPRESENTATIVES TO IDENTIFY SOME GRANT FUNDING.

I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT AT ONE POINT, THE OLD ALTON COMMUNITY DID, IN APRIL MARCH, THE OLD ALTON COMMUNITY DID FORM THEIR OWN SERVICE COMPANY, WATER SERVICE COMPANY, AND THEN IN MAY AND BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE OF 2024, THE OLD ALTON REQUESTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY TO SUPPORT THEIR APPLICATION FOR A DUAL CERTIFICATION WITHIN THE CCN AND CITY STAFF AGREED OR AFTER EVALUATION, DETERMINED THAT THAT WOULD SET A BAD PRECEDENT FOR US AND SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE OLD ALTON COMMUNITY TO IDENTIFY A PATHWAY FORWARD. SO YOU ALL MAY RECALL, BACK IN 2019, THERE WAS ANOTHER SCENARIO LIKE THIS WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA. THIS WAS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS. SO WE PUT TOGETHER A BRIEF CHART TO KIND OF COMPARE THOSE TWO. THE

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IT WAS JUST IT'S A MOBILE HOME PARK AND IT WAS NOT A DESIGNATED PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM. IT WAS WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. AND AT THAT TIME WE WEREN'T AWARE OF ANY GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE TO HELP OFFSET THE RESIDENTS COSTS AND CORRECTING THE WELL ISSUE OF THE WATER SUPPLY ISSUE. HERE'S ANOTHER SNAPSHOT. THIS IS THIS OUTLINE IS OUR CORPORATE LIMITS. AND WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS.

THESE ARE THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SERVICED BY WELL WATER. IT'S ROUGHLY A POPULATION OF 4532.

POPULATION 4532. SO IF THIS WERE A STANDARD DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE WOULD HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE. THERE WOULD BE A DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW OF THE PLANS. WE ASSIGN A DEVELOPMENT FACILITATOR. THERE WOULD BE SOME CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW. YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE APPROVAL OF PERMITS, WOULD BE GRANTED, CONSTRUCTION SUPERVISED BY PUBLIC WORKS INSPECTORS, AND THE PROJECT WOULD BE ACCEPTED AT CLOSEOUT. THIS IS NOT THAT TYPE OF A PROJECT. THE DIFFERENCE IS IT'S A DEVIATION FROM THE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY, IT'S LOCATED OUTSIDE OF OUR CORPORATE LIMITS, AND THE NEED IS ACTUALLY BEING DRIVEN BY THE DEVELOPER, BY THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT A DEVELOPER. AND THIS IS A RESPONSE TO AN EMERGENCY. SO WE IDENTIFIED THREE OR ACTUALLY FOUR POTENTIAL OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD. THE FIRST OPTION IS THAT THE RESIDENTS DRILL THEIR OWN WELL FOR THE FOR THE CITY.

THIS IS THE SIMPLEST PATH FORWARD. IT'S THE QUICKEST AND IMPLEMENTATION UTILIZES EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S THE LEAST AMOUNT OF COORDINATION BETWEEN GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AND AGAIN, THE LEAST IMPACT TO THE CITY. AND THERE'S NO IMPACT FEES THAT WOULD BE CHARGED TO THE COMMUNITY. NOW, THE OBSTACLES IS IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE TO THE RESIDENTS AND OUR ENGINEERS AND TCU DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS PATH FORWARD DUE TO POTENTIAL FAILURE OF THE WHALE. WELL, IN THE FUTURE, THE COSTS ARE OVER THERE AND THE TABLE IT'S APPROXIMATELY A 1 MILLION TO 1.3 MILLION FOR TOTAL FOR THE NEW. WELL, AND IF YOU SPREAD THAT OUT OVER THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ABOUT 47,000 TO 61,000 PER PERSON OR PER HOUSEHOLD. OPTION NUMBER TWO IS THE OLD ALTON COMMUNITY SECURES A GRANT AND CONSTRUCTS THE CONNECTION AND THE WATER SYSTEM. THE BENEFITS IS THAT THE CURRENT PROCESS HAS MOMENTUM. THAT'S WHAT THE OLD ALTON COMMUNITY WAS WORKING ON. IT KEEPS THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY, AND IT FOLLOWS THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PROCESS.

OUR OUR OUR CURRENT PROCESS, THE OBSTACLES IS IT'S A VERY LONG IMPLEMENTATION. IT'S ABOUT 3 TO 4 YEARS BEFORE THEY COULD THEY COULD REALIZE THESE THIS CONNECTION. IT'S A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF GOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST WITH THE CITY, IT'S WITH THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THROUGH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. AND THE GRANT MAY NOT COVER THE FULL COST. WE'RE ESTIMATING IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 30% OF THE COST WILL BE COVERED BY THE GRANT. SO THE TOTAL FOR THIS OPTION IS BETWEEN 800,000 AND 1.2 MILLION, 30% TO BE ESTIMATED, 30% TO BE COVERED BY THE GRANT, WHICH IS 560 TO 400,000 840,000. THE IMPACT, AN IMPACT FEE OF $7,200 PER HOME, AND THE COST PER RESIDENT WOULD BE ROUGHLY 33,000 TO 47,000. OPTION NUMBER THREE ARE THE BENEFITS, AND THIS IS FOR DENTON TO PURSUE THE GRANT.

AND CONSTRUCT THE CONNECTIONS. SO IT'S PER TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. IT WOULD BE A QUICKER GRANT PROCESS FOR THEM IF THE CITY WERE TO INTERVENE. THERE'S NO DUAL CCN. THAT'S A DUAL CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY WOULD BE REQUIRED. THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE TRANSFER THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND WE'VE GOTTEN VERBAL CONFIRMATION FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY THAT IT WOULD ALSO EXPEDITE OUR INVOLVEMENT, WOULD EXPEDITE THE PROCESS OBSTACLES. AGAIN, THE GRANT IS GOING TO BE IT'S A LIMIT. IT'S AN ESTIMATE.

WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET 30%, 50% OR 100%. AND NON-COVERED COSTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE PAID UPFRONT BY THE COMMUNITY. AND THOSE COSTS WOULD INCLUDE ALL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ABSORBED BY THE CITY, SAME COST BREAKDOWN AS BEFORE, AND THEN OPTION NUMBER FOUR IS THAT WE WITHDRAW OUR SUPPORT. THE CITY OF DENTON WOULD WITHDRAW ITS SUPPORT AND THE DALTON COMMUNITY EITHER DRILL THE WELL OR INSTALL THE CONNECTIONS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE. THE GRANTS MAY NOT MATERIALIZE, LEAVING THE

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GOT IT. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX ONE AND THEN TWO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILPERSON JESTER. SO I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE JUST BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE AS FAR AS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THEIR WATER ISSUES IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDED PROVISION OR WITHIN OPTION NUMBER THREE, CURTAIN THREE, AT WHAT POINT DOES THE CITY OF DENTON GET MADE WHOLE? AS FAR AS WHAT? YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO OF COURSE, WANTING TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO OUR CITIZENS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE AREAS RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY BUT AREN'T ONE OF OUR CITY OF DENTON CITIZENS. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FISCAL IMPACTS OF EACH OF THESE. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON OUR CITIZENS? YES. FOR A MOMENT. YES, MA'AM. GREAT QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILPERSON JESTER, THE OLD DALTON COMMUNITY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY ANY MONIES UP FRONT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BEGIN. SO ONCE WE PURSUE THE GRANT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE RECEIVE FROM THE GRANT, THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE UP THE DELTA BEFORE WE DID. WE BEFORE WE EXPENDED ANY FUNDS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I BELIEVE SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING WORKED, NO CITIZEN TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR THE CITY WOULD ULTIMATELY ULTIMATELY BE LOST. THAT IS CORRECT. IN THIS SCENARIO, WE WOULD HAVE SOME UP FRONT COSTS FOR DOING THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF GOING THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS. BUT WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR THAT BEFORE WE BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. AND WHATEVER THE GRANT DOES NOT REIMBURSE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE SPECULATING AS TO WHAT AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE. THE DELTA, AS YOU SAY, WOULD GO BACK TO THE DALTON RESIDENTS AND WHATEVER TIME FRAME IS DOABLE FOR THEM TO WE'VE MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT WE HAVE TO BE PAID UP FRONT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK ON THIS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. THERE'S NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT IT DOES SEEM THAT THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. GO BACK TO NUMBER THREE. THAT RIGHT THERE. SO THE RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW THEY ARE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH FINDING THAT PARTICULAR COST AND HAVE YOU ALL SECURED AS TO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT RATHER THAN SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO REACH INTO MY HEALTH BENEFITS OR MY, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE PUTTING THEM IN MORE STRESS? I'M NOT SURE. STRESSED OUT. WILL THEY BE? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER, BE ABLE TO DO THEIR PART. I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER THAT, COUNCILOR BYRD. I CAN SAY THAT WE MET WITH THEM ON WHAT WAS IT MANY OCCASIONS LAST WEEK ON THE 13TH, AND WE WERE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS WAS THE PATH FORWARD AND THAT THESE MONIES WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID UP FRONT BEFORE WE COULD COMPLETE THE WORK. AND WE HAD FULL SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY REPS. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT 100% OF THE COMMUNITY OR IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, I MEAN, IS THIS ONCE YOU TIE IN, EVERYBODY'S IN. CAN YOU I MEAN, TIE IN TO EVERY, EVERY

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REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. SO THE ADVANTAGE OF US DOING OPTION THREE. SO OKAY, LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK. WE HAVE NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITIES AND I THINK IT'S SORT OF INCUMBENT ON US IN OUR IN OUR SORT OF ROLE WE'VE TAKEN ON IN THE REGION TO, TO SET A GOOD EXAMPLE, BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THAT. YOU RIGHTFULLY MENTIONED GREEN TREE ESTATES.

THIS IS THIS NOT IDENTICAL, BUT RELATED SITUATION. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A CCN. THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING A REGIONAL APPROACH TO WATER MANAGEMENT FOR MUDS AND MDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S EXCELLENT. I DON'T HAVE A MY QUESTIONS REVOLVE SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JESTER COUNCILPERSON JESTER. HER QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, SO THE ADMIN COSTS OF THEM VERSUS US DOING IT. WE WOULD BE MADE WHOLE COMPLETELY AT THE AT THE FRONT.

OKAY. YES, SIR. AND THEN ARE THERE OTHER ANCILLARY COSTS THAT WE WOULD ENTAIL THAT WOULD NEED TO BE INCORPORATED IN LIKE I THINK IN THE BACKUP AND CORRECT THIS IS A QUESTION MORE THAN A STATEMENT. I THOUGHT IT SAID THAT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE STANDARDS WERE DIFFERENT THAN OUR OWN. AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, SOMEWHAT LESS. ARE WE GOING TO BE OBLIGATED TO UPGRADE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE? AND WHAT ARE THE COSTS OF LONG TERM TYING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE? THE COST PROVIDED CONTEMPLATE CONSTRUCTION AT THE CITY OF DENTON DESIGN CRITERIA STANDARDS SO WOULD BE BROUGHT UP TO OUR STANDARDS WHEN THE WORK WAS DONE AND THAT'S JUST THE INTERCONNECT OR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WOULD BE THE INTERCONNECT AND IT WOULD BE THE MAIN LINE THAT GOES IN THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE CONNECTION POINTS TO THE HOME. SO EVERYTHING LIKE JUST LIKE A NORMAL DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN A NORMAL OR A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. AND THEN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AFTER THE INTERCONNECT? THAT WOULD BE US. AND SO WE WOULD BE CHARGING THEM AS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. SO JUST LIKE WE DO IN IN OUR OWN HOMES, WHEN WE GET A WATER BILL, YOU HAVE YOUR ALL YOUR YOUR FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SERVICE DELIVERY AND YOUR CONSUMPTION. SO THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY AND WE WOULD MAINTAIN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE MOVING FORWARD, JUST AS IF IT WAS A NORMAL DEVELOPMENT. AND SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF WE THE GRANTS WOULD PAY, NOT US FOR ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT AND THE INTERCONNECT AND THEN ONGOING MAINTENANCE WOULD BE RECOVERED THROUGH OUR RATE STRUCTURE. THAT IS CORRECT. AND PART OF THAT $7,200, THAT'S THE IMPACT FEE THAT WE CHARGE FOR THE WATER CONNECTION. SO THAT COMES BACK TO US AS WELL FOR ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENT IN THE AREA. OKAY. I'LL LISTEN TO EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I GUESS AT THIS POINT I'M LEANING STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT I WANT TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE ELSE. OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I LIKE AND I THINK I LIKE OPTION THREE. DO DO ANY OF THESE. IT'S EITHER 19 OR 21 RESIDENTS RIGHT. ARE WE TALKING 21. IT'S 21. WATER RESIDENT 20 CONNECTIONS. THOSE ARE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS. SO I THINK WE HAVE ROUGHLY 69 INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, SO POPULATION OF ROUGHLY 69. DO ANY OF THOSE 21 HAVE THE OPTION TO OPT OUT OF THIS, OR WOULD THAT SCREW UP THE DEAL THAT WOULD THAT WOULD NOT BE THAT WOULD NOT BE HELPFUL FOR THE DEAL. OKAY. AND I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I'M PRESUMING THAT THAT THESE HOMEOWNERS WOULD SIMPLY GET A LIEN ON THEIR PROPERTY TO COME UP WITH THE 33 TO 47,000. THAT IS CORRECT. WE'RE NOT WE'RE

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ALL RIGHT. SO REPRESENTATIVE, THIS TWO, DO YOU HAVE A POSITION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE AT THIS POINT OR. NO. YEAH I'M STICKING WITH MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THREE. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE. BECAUSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS CASSIE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A TREMENDOUS FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR THE RESIDENTS, GIVEN THAT THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND THAT THEY'RE COUNTY RESIDENTS. I WOULD AND I WOULD NOW ENCOURAGE THOSE RESIDENTS TO WORK WITH THEIR ELECTED COUNTY OFFICIALS TO HOPEFULLY LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF DISTRICT THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE CREATED TO HELP OFFSET THIS COST. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT SHAKES OUT LEGALLY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE THE TIME, WE WOULD THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES OR NO. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL TO, IF THEY CAN ALL WORK THAT OUT WITH OUR COUNTY PARTNERS TO NOT

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YEAH. WHY THE WHY THE VARIANCE BETWEEN 33 AND 47 PER RESIDENT. SO CONTINGENT UPON COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE AMOUNT OF GRANT THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE GRANT MONIES. SO A HOUSE THAT'S CLOSER TO THE, TO THE STREET WOULD, MIGHT BE CHEAPER THAN. NO. IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING UP AND THIS IS OUR BEST ESTIMATE ON THE ACTUAL COST OF THAT CONSTRUCTION. SO WE HAVE A RANGE. IF YOU SAW THAT IT WAS LIKE $800,000 TO IF I GO BACK.

YEAH. SO $800,000 TO 1.2 MILLION. AND WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 30% ON THE GRANT, WHICH WOULD OFFSET THAT COST. AND THEN THAT'S THE REMAINDER. SO IT'S THE RANGE. IT COULD BE AS EXPENSIVE BASED OFF OF CONSTRUCTION AS THE 1.2 MILLION TO DO THE ENTIRE PROJECT. OR AS WE CAN GET IT DONE AS AFFORDABLY AS THE 800,000. WE DON'T KNOW YET UNTIL WE GO OUT TO MARKET, TO BID. AND SO THE RESIDENT WILL KNOW WHAT THEIR NUMBER IS. YES, SIR. WHEN THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH. YES. BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO DO DESIGN PLANS AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND WE'LL GO OUT TO CONTRACT SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE.

AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE GRANT MONEY. SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT THAT OFFSET IS. WOULD YOU HAVE A GUESS AS TO WHEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WOULD START? IT'S REALLY GOING TO IT'S CONTINGENT OBVIOUSLY ON ON COUNCIL DIRECTION. AND THEN OUR WORK WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOU TODAY, BUT I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. STEVEN ISN'T IT ISN'T OUR COST HIGHER FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE. BECAUSE WHEN WE GO OUT FOR BID, WE HAVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE. AND THEN PEOPLE WORKING WITH THE CITY VERSUS A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR. THERE'S CONTINGENCIES. YOU BAKE IN I. YES, YOUR HONOR, IT COULD COST MORE AS A CITY RUN PROJECT. OKA. AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND ASKED, WHAT IS THE BINDING AGREEMENT FOR THE FOR THE 21 ACCOUNTS? WHAT WHAT PREVENTS THEM FROM SAYING, I DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. I DIDN'T AGREE TO THAT. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. YEAH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. AND THAT IS COUNCILMEMBER HOLLAND. THAT'S AN INSTRUMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY WAS TO GET DIRECTION. SHOULD WE MOVE DOWN THAT PATH, SIR? AND THAT TIME IS CAPPED. DO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, DO WE? LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO MANAGE THAT AGREEMENT PROCESS. DO WE LIKE AS A CITY WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET WE WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP THE TERMS AND PROVIDE THE AGREEMENT AND HAVE THEM SIGN OFF ON IT.

BUT I WOULD DEFER TO MAC ON THAT. YEAH. WHY IS THAT? WHY THEY WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ATTORNEYS? I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE AN ATTORNEY AT THIS POINT. BUT THEY CAN CERTAINLY HIRE ONE. I THINK IT'S WELL WITHIN OUR POWER AS THE CITY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE DOCUMENT.

THAT'S KIND OF OUR STANDARD TERMS. WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT, NOT UNLIKE SOME OTHER AGREEMENTS WE'VE DONE WITH PEOPLE IN THE ETJ WHEN PROVIDING WATER. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S AN EASY DOCUMENT TO PUT TOGETHER THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE ALL OF THEM TO SIGN AND HAVE EXECUTED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL PRIOR TO US MOVING FORWARD ON THE PROJECT. BUT IF SOMEONE CHALLENGES THAT, THAT PUTS US IN THE COURTROOM. IF THEY CHALLENGE THE AGREEMENT. YES, SURE. I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING GUARANTEED ON THIS PROCESS, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO I IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A FUTURE DISCUSSION AND I'M GIVING AN INDICATOR IN THE FUTURE, I DON'T WANT TO PUT US BETWEEN THOSE RATEPAYERS AND THOSE RESIDENTS IF THEY. BECAUSE IF SOMEONE DISPUTES IT UP FRONT OR AFTERWARDS, I DON'T WANT CITY OF DENTON GOING AND PAYING LEGAL FEES TO TRUE THAT UP. I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD DISAGREEMENTS IF WE DON'T HAVE TO BE, BECAUSE THEN WHERE DO WE GET WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? RIGHT? WE GOT TO GET THAT MONEY BACK.

UNDERSTOOD. AND IF THERE'S BACK AND FORTH AND EDITING AND ETC, THEN THAT'S SO JUST I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION. DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. SO WHEN THAT TIME COMES, I'M JUST BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT I WANT TO PULL THE CITY INTO ALONG THOSE LINES. AND THEN YOU TOUCHED ON THE VIOLATIONS. BUT HOW HOW DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE VIOLATIONS OR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE? NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M SURE WE COULD. WE COULD FIND OUT FROM T-C-E-Q. YEAH. IF YOU IF YOU WOULD. I JUST WANT TO IF WE CAN GET A LEGAL STATUS OR SOMETHING AFTER THE FACT, I WANT TO KNOW THAT AND THE COST. AND THEN I DO

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WE ALREADY HAVE A PROVISION WITHIN OUR RATE STRUCTURE FOR OUTSIDE CORPORATE LIMIT RATES, WHICH IS I GUESS IT'S A HIGHER RATE BECAUSE IT COSTS US MORE MONEY TO DELIVER THE WATER OUTSIDE THE CORPORATE LIMITS. SO THEY PAY A PREMIUM FOR IT. AND WITHIN THAT, IF FAILURE TO PAY, WE HAVE THOSE WE HAVE THOSE TRIGGERS TO SECURE THE WATER SERVICE OR TO TURN IT OFF UNTIL WE'RE MADE WHOLE AND THERE'S ENOUGH. IS THERE ANYTHING PENDING? THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER, BUT GOOD INFORMATION. BUT THEN ALSO, IS THERE ANYTHING PENDING ON RATE REVIEWS ON THAT RATE? I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT RATES CURRENTLY. WE ARE WE ARE EXPLORING A NEW RATE AND OUR RATE AND FEE STUDY. SO WE'RE EVALUATING ALL OF OUR RATES CURRENTLY, NOT JUST THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT WITH THEM. RIGHT. LIKE HEY YES SIR. HERE YOU ARE TODAY. THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. WE'VE MADE THAT. WE'VE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TO THEM THAT THAT WE REGULARLY ASSESS OUR RATES AND ADJUST THEM BASED OFF OF THE NEED. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL YOU HAVE MAJORITY SUPPORT FOR, FOR THREE. I JUST NEEDED TO GET A FEEL FOR, FOR THOSE THINGS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[E. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding homelessness initiatives. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 1 hour]]

OKAY. THANKS. SO. YOU'LL HOLD ME TO IT. I REALLY LIKE THIS PRESENTATION. IT'S JUST VERY HELPFUL. RIGHT? YEAH. SO BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE, AS PEOPLE ARE TRACKING ALONG THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DIALED IN TO THE RIGHT KIND OF IDEAS, QUESTIONS AS WE LISTEN TO YOU PRESENT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS THIS PRESENTATION IS SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE OUR

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MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHRISTINE TAYLOR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, THE GALLERY IS FULL OF SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF HELPING ON THIS INITIATIVE. SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE GARY HENDERSON IS HERE FROM UNITED WAY OF DANE COUNTY. DANNY SHAW, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS DATA. WE HAVE ROY MELTZER, WHO IS THE CHAIR ON THE BOARD FOR OUR DAILY BREAD. WE HAVE WENDY MCGEE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND MEMBERS OF HER TEAM. WE HAVE CHIEF HEDGES FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CHIEF ROBLEDO FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON PROVIDING DATA AS WE PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. SO I WANT TO THANK THEM. THEY'RE ALL HERE. IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. SO ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE. AND WE TAKE A MULTIFACETED APPROACH THAT INVOLVES SHELTER, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND COMMUNITY COLLABORATION. AS MAYOR HUDSPETH MENTIONED, TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS ONLY FOCUSED ON ONE INITIATIVE WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE EMERGENCY AND TRANSITIONAL SHELTER AS PART OF OUR BROADER COMMUNITY HOMELESS INITIATIVES. AND I DID CHANGE THE FOOTNOTE A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY SAW ON FRIDAY, WE ARE BRINGING BACK AN ADDITIONAL PART OF THE PRESENTATION, WHICH WILL FOCUS ON OUTREACH SERVICES, ENCAMPMENTS, AND THAT WILL BE AT THE DECEMBER 17TH MEETING. ALL RIGHT. A BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO HOMELESSNESS IS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER TO SUCCESS FOR MANY OF OUR DENTON COUNTY POPULATION IN DENTON COUNTY. SO IN 2014, THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON HOMELESSNESS WAS CREATED WHEN MAYOR WATTS WAS IN PLACE AND IN 2015, THAT TASK FORCE ISSUED A REPORT RECOMMENDING A SHELTER FACILITY, ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY COLLABORATION AND FUNDING FOR HOMELESS, HOMELESS INITIATIVES.

IN 2016, THE CITY OF DENTON AND UNITED WAY OF DENTON COUNTY ESTABLISHED THE DENTON COUNTY HOMELESS LEADERSHIP TEAM, WHICH IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOCUSED ON REDUCING HOMELESSNESS THROUGH COORDINATED PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. IN 2018, THAT LEADERSHIP TEAM FORMED AN AD HOC SHELTER TASK FORCE TO EVALUATE SHELTER QUALITY AND CAPACITY IN DENTON COUNTY, AND THE TASK FORCE ULTIMATELY PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH PROVIDED THE CITY'S NEXT STEPS. THE HANDOUT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO FIT ON ONE SLIDE, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU COULD SEE IT. THE COLORS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING. AS WE DID DRY RUNS. THAT QUESTION CAME UP MULTIPLE TIMES. BUT THIS IS A SNAPSHOT ON THE COLLECTIVE APPROACH OF ALL THE SERVICES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE TOWARD. SO TOWARDS THIS GOAL AND BUT TODAY WE ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE ACTIVITIES OUT OF THE DENTON COMMUNITY SHELTER THAT OUR DAILY BREAD OPERATES. MOVING INTO THIS SLIDE. SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF POINT IN TIME COUNT INFORMATION.

AND DENTON COUNTY, THE HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT IS AN ANNUAL NATIONWIDE CENSUS OF PEOPLE LIVING UNSHELTERED AND IN HOMELESS SHELTERS THAT PROVIDE A SNAPSHOT OF THEIR EXPERIENCE ON ANY GIVEN DAY IN DENTON COUNTY. SO THIS TAKES PLACE ANNUALLY IN JANUARY. IT IS A VOLUNTEER DRIVEN PRACTICE. IT RUNS OUT OF UNITED WAY. I THINK MY STATS SHOW IT TAKES OVER 200 VOLUNTEERS CANVASING A VERY LARGE AREA AND A FOUR HOUR TIME PERIOD, SO THIS SLIDE IS IMPORTANT FOR A COUPLE REASONS. IT'S SHOWING YOU A COUPLE THINGS WE WANT TO POINT OUT IS THE POPULATION TRENDS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, FROM 2019 TO 2024, AND IMPORTANT PIECES WE WANTED TO POINT OUT IN THIS SLIDE IS THE PANDEMIC OCCURRING BETWEEN 2020 AND 2022? WE ARE MISSING ONE YEAR OF 2021 WHERE DATA IT WAS OPTIONAL, SO WE'RE NOT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. AND THEN THE KEY POINT BETWEEN 2022 AND 2023, SHOWING THE SHELTER OPENING. SO FOCUSING ON THIS DATA A LITTLE MORE. SINCE 2019, THE CITY OF DENTON HAS PREDOMINANTLY I THINK WE REPRESENTED BETWEEN 82 AND 86% OF THE COUNT WHEN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS CONDUCTED, THE NEXT LARGEST CITY THAT REPRESENTS ON THIS MATRIX IS

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WE HAD FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THE HOTEL PROGRAMS AND OTHER NONPROFIT AGENCIES ASSISTING IN THAT. SO PRIOR TO THE SHELTER, THERE STILL WAS SEVERAL NONPROFITS WORKING TOWARDS PROVIDING SHELTER DURING THAT PANDEMIC TIME. AND THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT I MISSING MY NOTES A LITTLE BIT IS THAT THIS NUMBER COULD HAVE BEEN FAR WORSE FOR DENTON COUNTY. THERE WAS FEDERAL FUNDING THAT CAME IN AND ASSISTED THAT, AND I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS 10,000 HOUSEHOLDS IN DENTON COUNTY WERE AFFECTED AND ABLE TO BE HELPED THROUGH THAT FEDERAL FUNDING. WITH WITHOUT THAT FUNDING, THESE NUMBERS WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH HIGHER.

OKAY. SKIPPING FORWARD TO 2020, OUT OF THAT INITIATIVE. SO IN 2020, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY AT 909 LOOP 28 TO RENOVATE THE 30 400 ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHICH PREVIOUSLY WAS A NURSING HOME, WHICH LED TO A REALLY GREAT LAYOUT FOR THE VISION OF THE SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED. SO THE VISION WAS FOR A CO-LOCATED DAY CENTER AND OVERNIGHT SHELTER TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING OR AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS. AND IN 2021, THE CITY EXECUTED A MANAGEMENT AND SERVICES OPERATING AGREEMENT WITH OUR DAILY BREAD. THIS AGREEMENT IS A FIVE YEAR TERM AND KICKED OFF ON THE DATE OF CEO FOR THE SHELTER WHICH OPENED IN, OR THEY RECEIVED THEIR CEO IN NOVEMBER OF 2022 AND IN DECEMBER OF 2022, THE SHELTER OPENED. SNAPSHOT OF SERVICES PROVIDED THE SERVICE. THE SHELTER PROVIDES A DAY SHELTER, AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER, A COMMUNITY KITCHEN SERVING THREE MEALS PER DAY, AND THEY HAVE WRAPAROUND SERVICES ADDRESSING HOUSING INCOME, EMPLOYMENT AND WELLNESS SUPPORT SERVICES. A COUPLE OF THOSE THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ON THE INCOME AND EMPLOYMENT THEY HAVE ID, IDS AND DOCUMENT SERVICES. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING ASSISTANCE. THEY OFFER CLASSES AND COACHING, AND ONE OF THE PICTURES DEPICTED ON THE SLIDE IS ARE READY FOR WORK, READY TO WORK PROGRAM, WHICH THE CITY OF DENTON IS A PARTICIPANT IN. AND SO IN THE TRANSITIONAL WING, THEY'RE TRAINING AND GETTING PEOPLE ON THE JOB READY FOR THE JOB FORCE. THE CITY OF DENTON HAS A HAS A CONTRACT WITH THEM WHERE WE HAVE THE WORKERS COME OUT ON THE JOB S WE SUCCESSFULLE HIRED SIX, THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BECOME FULL TIME CITY OF DENTON EMPLOYEES. SO THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM THAT WE'VE SEEN REAL SUCCESS IN. HIGHLIGHTING ON OUR MASTER AND SERVICE AGREEMENT EXPECTATIONS. SO INCLUDED IN THAT EXPECTATION AGREEMENT, WE TALK OF OFFERING THAT THE OPERATOR IS TO OFFER A LOW BARRIER SHELTER TO UTILIZE BEST PRACTICES AND HOW PROGRAMS ARE ARRANGED AND SERVICES ARE CONDUCTED TO ADOPT PROGRAMS AND STRATEGIES THAT ARE HOUSING FOCUSED, WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO GET PEOPLE IN THE SHELTER AND THEN MOVED INTO A STABLE, MORE STABLE SITUATION TO OFFER INDIVIDUAL BASIC NEEDS ORGANIZED TO ROUTE GUESTS INTO THAT STABLE OR PERMANENT HOUSING OR OTHER LONG TERM PLACEMENT BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL CONDITIONS, AND TO COMPLETE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE SERVICE OUTCOMES WITH PROVEN RESULTS AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO BECOME HOMELESS AND REDUCING THE PERCENTAGE OF PERSONS RETURNING TO HOMELESSNESS. OOPS, SORRY. IF ANYONE REMEMBERS THE SHELTER MOVED VERY QUICKLY FROM BEING A SMALLER OPERATION TO OVERNIGHT, WE MOVED TO A MUCH LARGER OPERATION WITH THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES. SO INITIALLY I THINK THE QUESTION WAS DID WE SET SERVICE LEVELS? WHAT WERE THE GOALS? AND WITHIN OUR MOSA, WE TALKED ABOUT UTILIZING BEST

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INTAKE BEFORE ACCESSING INTO SHELTER SERVICES THAT GUESTS COMPLETE INTAKE AND BECOME ASSIGNED TO A CASE MANAGER. THEN WHILE THEY'RE IN THERE ACCESSING SUPPORT SERVICES SUCH AS MEALS, SHOWERS, LAUNDRY AND THEN WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF COMING INTO THE SHELTER BEST PRACTICES SHOW THEY SHOULD BE ENGAGED WITH A CASE MANAGER TO WORK ON LARGER GOALS OF THAT HOUSING PLACEMENT, AND HAVE OTHER GOALS TOWARDS EXITING AND EXITING TO A SOLUTION. THE BEST PRACTICE MODEL SHOWS ABOUT 120 DAYS. THE SHELTER HAS NOW BEEN OPEN ABOUT 18 MONTHS, SO AS WE'VE PUT PROCESSES IN PLACE AND COLLECTED DATA, WE'RE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT WHERE ARE WE SEEING SOME POINTS FOR REFINEMENT, WHERE CAN WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE TO MAXIMIZE THOSE RESOURCES, TO SEE THE PROVEN RESULTS OF WHAT THE VISION OF THE SHELTER WAS. SO AREAS WERE IDENTIFIED ON THAT BEST PRACTICE MODEL OF WHERE WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE PROCESSES TOWARDS THAT.

WITH THE TWO MAJOR GOALS OF LOOKING AT THIS PROCESS, HOW CAN WE INCREASE SAFETY AT THE SHELTER AND HOW CAN WE MAKE PROCESSES MORE EFFICIENT TO MAXIMIZE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE BETTER OUTCOMES? SO IDENTIFIED ON THE MATRIX OR IDENTIFIED ON THE MODEL SHOWS WE WANTED TO REFINE BEST PRACTICE AT A SINGLE POINT OF ENTRY. SO WITH THE SHELTER LAYOUT, WE IDENTIFIED THAT WE NEEDED TO REDUCE MULTIPLE POINTS OF ENTRY SO THAT GUESTS ARE RECEIVING AN INTAKE. SAME THING. OPPORTUNITY COMPLETE INTAKE FOR ALL. GUEST. WE SAW AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT HOUSING PLANS MEETING WITH ASSIGNING WITH A CASEWORKER OCCURS WITHIN SEVEN DAYS AND THEN TWO MEASURES THAT I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS THE IDEAL RATIO ON CASE MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE 130. AND WE ARE SEEING 1 TO 167 CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW, THE AVERAGE TIME FRAME FOR ANYONE BEING EXITED INTO A HOUSING SOLUTION IS 130 DAYS, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO THE BEST PRACTICE, AND 6% OF THOSE EXITING, THOUGH ARE INTO A HOUSING SOLUTION. ONE IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT WE DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO THAT IS EXITING INTO A HOUSING SOLUTION IS NOT DEPENDENT ON HOW THE CASE MANAGER WORKS WITH THEM, OR WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE IN THE SHELTER. WE ARE LIMITED BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT PROGRAMS AND FUNDING FOR PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS OR TREATMENT PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE SEEN 133 DAYS TO EXIT THAT 6% OUT TO A HOUSING PROGRAM. AND WE DO HAVE AND THERE ARE THERE IS DATA TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER 70 GUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE SHELTER OVER 365 DAYS. A COUPLE OF KEY METRICS. WE WANTED TO POINT OUT THE SHELTER IS OPERATING ON APPROXIMATELY OR ON AVERAGE, 25 VOLUNTEERS PER DAY. THE AVERAGE NIGHTLY BED UTILIZATION RUNS ANYWHERE FROM 142 TO 150.

THEY'RE SERVING THE THREE MEALS A DAY, 185 IS THE AVERAGE MEALS SERVED, AND THEY SERVED 1200 GUESTS AND YEAR TO DATE, 900. THAT DATA STOPPED IN AUGUST, AND THE CASE MANAGER CLIENT RATIO IS 1 TO 167. HOUSING PLACEMENTS ARE AT 6% IN 2023 AND AT 5% AND 2024. YEAR TO DATE. ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY DATA, THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT, ON THIS PROCESS AND PROVIDING RESPONSE TO THE SHELTER AND PUBLIC SAFETY DATA. WE'RE SHOWING THE DENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT TRENDS ON RESPONSE TO OVERALL HOMELESSNESS. OF THE TOTAL CALL VOLUME THAT'S BEEN ANALYZED, 9.5% OF TOTAL FIRE CALLS FOR INCIDENT RESPONSE ARE RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS AND 4% OF POLICE RESPONSE CALLS ARE RELATED TO I. SPECIFICALLY, ON DIVING A LITTLE DEEPER INTO FIRE DATA. THE SHELTER IS LOCATED WITHIN DISTRICT TWO, WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THAT LARGER RESPONSE OF CALLS. SO OVERALL, 29% OF INCIDENT RESPONSE IS RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS IN THAT DISTRICT. AND WHILE THOSE METRICS ARE IMPORTANT IS TO SHOW THAT WE WANT TO HOW ARE WE INCREASING? IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE SAFETY AT THE SHELTER? IS THERE ARE WE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BE DOING DIFFERENTLY TO MAXIMIZE THAT RESOURCE, SINCE IT ON DISTRICT TWO, IF 29% OF THE CALLS ARE RESPOND TO THE SHELTER THAT DOES IMPACT THE RESIDENTS AND RESPONSE TIME IN THAT AREA. SO A COUPLE OF GOALS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND THAT ARE IN PROGRESS, WE WANT TO USE THAT COLLABORATIVE, DATA DRIVEN APPROACH FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT WITH THOSE GOALS OF SAFETY, EFFICIENCY AND

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AS I MENTIONED IN EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, OUR MANAGEMENT AND SERVICE OPERATING AGREEMENT SPEAKS TO NO BARRIERS, LOW BARRIERS FOR THE SHELTER. AND SO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR US TO EVALUATE RAISING THE BARRIERS TO BALANCE AND MAINTAIN A SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT. THIS ACTION WOULD REQUIRE US BRINGING BACK A PROPOSAL TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, AND WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT OPERATING AGREEMENT. THE THIRD ONE IS A REGIONAL FUNDING SUPPORT. EXPLORE FUNDING CONTRIBUTIONS FROM NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES TO SUSTAIN SHELTER OPERATIONS. THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT WAS MADE 100% BY THE CITY FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND AND THE CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION OF THE SHELTER AND THE OPERATING BUDGET. THE CITY CONTRIBUTES, I BELIEVE, APPROXIMATELY $400,000 A YEAR TOWARDS OPERATING THE SHELTER DOES OUR DAILY BREAD, DOES DO FUNDRAISING. THEY DO RECEIVE GRANTS AND DIRECT SUPPORT FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF DENTON IS THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY PROVIDING ONGOING OPERATING SUPPORT. SO THE ACTION THE SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD HAS DRAFTED A LETTER THAT THEY WILL BE PROVIDING TO THE HOMELESS LEADERSHIP TEAM. SO WE ARE SEEKING IF COUNCIL IS IN SUPPORT OF THAT REGIONAL FUNDING SUPPORT, ASSISTANCE FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH SOME OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CALLS IS A NEED. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH PARTNER AGENCIES TO PROVIDE MEDICAL SUPPORT DURING PEAK RESPONSE TIMES? DIVING DEEPER INTO THAT RESPONSE DATA, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SERVICES ON SITE THAT THEN WOULD MITIGATE OR POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC EMERGENCY RESPONSE CALLS? SO THIS ACTION IS SEEKING DIRECTION ON OUR DAILY BREAD, LEADING THE EFFORTS TO SECURE PARTNER AGENCY SUPPORT FOR ON SITE OKAY OPEN. THERE IS A TON OF PEOPLE HERE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THIS THING GO FAITH BASE. THE UNITED WAY. GOLLY, THIS IS THIS IS JUST A GINORMOUS PROBLEM. AND WITHOUT WITHOUT YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'D DO.

SO I SINCERELY I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THAT. AND I BEG YOUR PARDON. TELL ME WHY DENTON IS SO DRAMATICALLY HIGHER WITH HOMELESSNESS THAN LEWISVILLE. THESE ARE. AND I GOT SOME BROAD

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SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE WHEN THEY START BEING HOMELESS, HOMELESS. IT'S WHERE THEY END UP BECAUSE OF THE YEARS ON THE STREET. AND BECAUSE OF SELF-MEDICATING, DUE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY'RE SURVIVING, THEY'RE TRYING TO SURVIVE AND NOT. AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND ME, I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL AT ALL ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE ACROSS THE NATION. THIS IS NOT JUST IN DENTON AND THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS FROM A MENTAL HEALTH STANDPOINT IS MORE FUNDING FOR MENTAL HEALTH, BECAUSE MANY TIMES IT STARTS THERE IS A IS MONEY OR LACK OF MONEY. THE REASON THAT PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS? IF YOU HAD ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, WOULD YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE BEING HOMELESS? IT'S THE SERVICES. IT CAN BE MONEY. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMELESSNESS, THERE'S INTERMITTENT HOMELESSNESS. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN YOUR HOME DEPOT, YOUR WALMART PARKING LOTS. THEY'RE IN AND OUT OF HOMELESSNESS. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T ALWAYS ARE NOT HOMELESS, BUT THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT TRANSITION BECAUSE OF A LOSS OF A JOB OR A MARRIAGE BREAKUP SITUATION. THEY'RE IN AND OUT OF HOMELESSNESS. THERE'S THE CHRONIC HOMELESS THAT ARE OUT ON THE STREET. THEY DON'T WANT HELP. THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING ANYBODY TO TELL THEM WHERE TO LIVE AND WHAT TO DO.

AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER TYPE OF HOMELESSNESS WHERE THEY DO WANT THE HELP. AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT WITH THEY GET THE HELP THEY NEED. THEY GET THE JOBS, TRAINING AND OTHER THINGS. BUT BUT MONEY THROWING MONEY AT IT, IT'S MORE ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED AND YES, IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY, BUT IT NEEDS I'LL JUST BE HONEST. IT NEEDS TO COME FROM THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH TO INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED IT, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE TO GET BETTER SO THAT THEY CAN THEN WE CAN THEN DEAL WITH THEIR ALCOHOL AND DRUG SITUATIONS. IT NEEDS TO BE MENTAL HEALTH, ALCOHOL AND DRUG AND THEN JOB TRAINING AND OTHER HOUSING PROGRAMS. AND THE ONLY REASON I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT AND IT WASN'T HERE, BUT WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH PEOPLE IN A PREVIOUS JOB WHERE YOU PUT SOMEONE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE INTO INTO HOUSING AND WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES, I'D SAY AT LEAST 80% OF THE TIME THEY GET KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTROL THEMSELVES ENOUGH TO WHERE THEY CAN KEEP STABLE HOUSING AND IT IT'S JUST A IT'S A IT'S A NEVER ENDING STORY UNLESS THERE ARE SERVICES TO HELP INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EITHER ON THE STREET OR IN A SHELTER, THEY NEED THAT KIND OF HELP SO THAT THEY CAN GET BETTER, AND THEN THEY CAN GET HEALTHY AND THEY CAN GET MENTALLY HEALTHY, AND THEN THEY CAN GET A JOB AND THEN THEY CAN STAY IN HOUSING. THANK YOU. I HEARD SIX AND THEN I HEARD THREE PEOPLE HAVE TRANSITIONED TO CITY EMPLOYEES. WAS IT 6 OR 3? IT WAS THREE. IT WAS THREE. AND WHERE ARE THEY NOW? SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. WHERE DO THEY LIVE NOW? OH, I'M NOT SURE. AT THE SHELTER? NO, THEY'VE TRANSITIONED OUT. CORRECT. WE HAVE A TRANSITIONAL WING. SO AS PEOPLE ARE GETTING INTO THE WORK PROGRAM, THEIR SERVICES ARE TO GET THEM FINANCIALLY READY, HOUSED, READY AND HAVE EMPLOYMENT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE THREE INDIVIDUALS ARE IN A MORE PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION, NOT AT THE SHELTER.

EXCELLENT NEWS. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WE NEED MORE PARTNER AGENCIES FOR THAT PROGRAM OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE.

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AND THEN CHECK BACK IN WITH THEM TO SAY, HAVE YOU DONE THIS? HAVE YOU DONE THAT? A LOT OF THIS IS TO ALSO AND I KNOW YOU THINK I'M CRAZY, BUT MOST OF THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THE SHELTER MANY TIMES, IF YOU ASK THEM IF THEY'RE A VETERAN, THEY MAY NOT REMEMBER THEIR VETERAN.

SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN TO SEE IF THEY'RE A VETERAN. AND THIS HAPPENED IN AUSTIN A LOT. WE HAD TO SIT DOWN AND WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE A VETERAN. THEY HAD VETERAN BENEFITS. SECOND OF ALL, MANY OF THEM SAY THEY DON'T KNOW THEIR FAMILY. WE FIND OUT THEIR FAMILY IS LOOKING FOR THEM. IT IS A MAJOR PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH, THROUGH A SERIES OF STEPS TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE FAMILY, IF THEY WERE A VETERAN, FAMILIES LOOKING FOR THEM.

SOMETIMES IT'S AS SIMPLE AS PUTTING THEM ON A BUS BACK TO THEIR HOUSE, AND THAT'S A SUCCESS. BUT IT IS. THERE'S NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL EITHER. IT IS. IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE, AND IT IS A VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE AND EMOTIONAL ISSUE. AND I'M MOST WORRIED BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF THE DOLLARS WE'RE SPENDING ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHERE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A CRUX HERE OF WHAT WE CAN DEAL WITH AND WHAT WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS. AND SO OUR, OUR PROPOSED OPTIONS ARE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON SO THAT IT MAKES THINGS RUN BETTER. BUT WE STILL NEED COUNCIL'S HELP, QUITE FRANKLY, TO ADVOCATE AND PUSH FOR DOLLARS AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND FOR ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY. AND WITHOUT THE MONEY AND THE PEOPLE TO HELP THEM AND TO HELP US AND TO HELP UNITED WAY, WE WON'T SEE A DROP IN THE NEED FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE. WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE. OKAY. WELL, I

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AND THE ANSWER AND THIS WAS TO JODY, NOT TO THE JUDGE. AND I DIDN'T SPEAK WITH THE JUDGE ABOUT IT, BUT HE HE DID. THE JUDGE OFFERED $3 MILLION. I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE AN IMPRESSION OUT THERE THAT HE DIDN'T. THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE DO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM MORE THAN JUST DENTON AND SO WITHOUT ONGOING SUPPORT, WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY OR LEWISVILLE OR ANOTHER CITY, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US OR ODB TO TRY TO RAISE THE MONEY, WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT. AND SO ONE, NO, IT WAS NEVER A LONG TERM SOLUTION FOR HOUSING. NEVER. AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT CAN'T YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM. I MEAN, IT WAS SET UP AS A SHELTER, EMERGENCY OVERNIGHT SHELTER. AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THAT IT'S AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER, NOT A PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION. THIS IS NOT A PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION AND A PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION TAKES MORE NONPROFITS AND OTHERS TO CREATE MID-TERM, SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM HOUSING SOLUTIONS FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. THAT'S THEY GO INTO ONE SHORT TERM, THEN THEY MOVE AFTER THEY GET SOBER AND MENTALLY CAPABLE TO A JOB WHERE THEY CAN THEN GO INTO A LONG TERM SOLUTION. BUT THAT IS THAT IS A FULL CIRCLE SOCIAL SERVICE ISSUE. AND THAT IS NOT US. WE JUST ARE PROVIDING A SHELTER FOR OVERNIGHT AND MAYBE A FEW DAYS CARE TO GET THEM SOME. MANY OF THEM DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT CLOTHES FOR THE WEATHER AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS. IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE 72 PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE READY TO BE CLOTHED. FOOD. THEY FATTEN UP A LITTLE BIT. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING TO WORK. WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE PEOPLE? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT, I KNOW IT, I'M SORRY. I KNOW IT'S A PASSIONATE CONVERSATION AND I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO APPEAR THAT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE ANY EMPATHY FOR ALL OF THAT. BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON OURSELVES AS A CITY, AS AN ORGANIZATION. WE HAVE 19 NONPROFITS IN HERE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. IT DIDN'T SERVE. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING FOOD. WE ARE, YOU KNOW, DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN FOR THE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR, YOU KNOW, UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT PERMANENT LONG TERM SOLUTIONS. AND SO THERE THAT'S WHAT I JUST NEED TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.

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BUT IT COULD ULTIMATELY INCLUDE DRUG TESTING BEFORE ACCESSING THE FACILITY TO INCREASE WITH THE GOAL OF SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY IS WHAT WOULD BE BRINGING BACK. WELL, YEAH, I GUESS I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EMERGENCY SERVICE PROVISION. THERE IS JUST I, I KEEP HUMANS ALIVE. I'M AN EMERGENCY SERVICE PROVISION. AND THEN AS, AS WE TRY TO GO INTO DIVERSIONARY PROGRAMS, WE MAY HAVE TO SET REQUIREMENTS, BUT THAT WOULD BE A, AN ISSUE OF, OF DISCUSSION FOR LATER COUNCILS. BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT SERVICE LEVELS, ARE THERE DIFFERENT BARRIERS YOU ENVISION FOR THE DIFFERENT SERVICE LEVELS? YES. AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT EMERGENCY VERSUS TRANSITIONAL. SO IF YOU'RE IN THE TRANSITIONAL WING AND YOU'RE STUDYING OR YOU'RE WORKING FOR A JOB TRAINING, YOU HAVE MORE OF A STABLE CONDITION IMPLEMENTING THE DRUG TESTING AT THAT LEVEL, BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO GET YOU READY FOR A JOB FOR PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS. SO WE WOULD BRING YOU BACK EMERGENCY SHELTER VERSUS TRANSITIONAL WING AND HOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY WORK. AND I GUESS MY LAST ONE IS IT'S GOING TO BE THREE AND FOUR ARE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, SERVICE PROVISION AND WHETHER WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING RAW CASH FOR SERVICE PROVISION OR YOU'RE TALKING IN-KIND, WHICH IS WHAT NUMBER FOUR IS SERVICE PROVISIO.

SOME OF THAT IS, IS REGIONAL LEADERSHIP. AND I THINK WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING REGIONAL LEADERSHIP BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS. BUT IT IS INCUMBENT ON US. I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THIS BODY. IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO GET WITH OUR PARTNERS ACROSS THE REGION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THEY STEP UP, TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE THEIR COSTS CAN'T BE TRANSFERRED TO US. IT'S A REGIONAL EFFORT. IT'S A NATIONAL EFFORT. I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE. BUT IF YOU NEVER IF YOU NEVER TAKE ANY STEPS DOWN THE PATH, IF NO ONE SAYS, I'M GOING TO NUCLEATE THIS AND CREATE A POTENTIAL FOR A SOLUTION, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE SOLUTIONS. YOU'RE YOU'RE JUST SHUNTING IT OFF. SO I GUESS I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AS I CONTINUE ON THE BOARD AND I'LL BE LOOKING FOR STAFF AND OUR PARTNERS IN THE AUDIENCE, HOW WE CAN BETTER COORDINATE THAT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HEARD SO FAR IS, ARE WE'RE THE ONLY ONES. AND SO THAT'S A COORDINATION EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S CHEAPER TO DIVERT THAN TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM. YOU VACCINATE PEOPLE, YOU DON'T LET THEM CATCH DISEASES. SO IT'S THE SAME SORT OF ANALOGY THAT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR THIS, I, I, I'M FINE WITH THE ACTION ITEMS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO NEBULOUS THAT THEY'RE ONLY PROVIDING A FRAMEWORK FOR GOING FORWARD. SO I'M, I'M FINE WITH THOSE. SO THE QUESTION IS AND I'M JUST ASKING I DON'T HAVE THE SAME QUESTION, BUT THIS IS THE QUESTION WHEN YOU SAY DIVERSION, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A DEFINITION OUT THERE. YOU DIDN'T EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS. YOU'VE SAID IT A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH NO EXPLANATION OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SURE, I'D BE HAPPY TO KNOW A DIVERSION OUT OF PRIMARY EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHATEVER THOSE PRIMARY EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE, WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY SERVICE PROVISION IN THE SHELTER, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EMS AND FIRE, TAKING CARE OF SOMEBODY THAT'S FOUND. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SHELTER, IF YOU DON'T HAVE DIVERSIONARY PROGRAMS TO GET YOU INTO SOME SOME SOMETHING ELSE, THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE JUST KEEPING THEM ALIVE AND THE SERVICES THAT IT COSTS TO KEEP THEM ALIVE. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IN THE SHELTER, I'M TALKING WHEN, YOU KNOW SOMEONE IS FOUND IN THE WOODS AND HOW TO WHAT DOES IT COST FOR POLICE AND FIRE TO RESPOND TO SOMEONE WHO IS FOUND IN THE WOODS IN A IN A CRISIS SITUATION? WHAT DOES THAT COST US VERSUS HAVING THEM IN A PROGRAM THAT DIVERTS THEM TO SOMETHING CHEAPER? SO WE DON'T HAVE CONTINUED EMERGENCY SERVICE PROVISION RESPONSES ALL THE TIM. OH, OKAY. WELL, THAT AND SOME OF THAT WILL BLEED INTO OUR NEXT CONVERSATION WHEN WE HAVE THIS TOPIC MORE BROADLY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

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WELL, LET ME ASK MAC, COULD ANOTHER CITY PERHAPS CHIP IN FINANCIALLY AT OUR SHELTER IF THEY HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE SEEKING SERVICES THAT ARE GETTING SERVICES? I CAN ANSWER AND THE ANSWER IS YES. I MEAN, OUR DAILY BREAD IS OPERATING THE SHELTER. AND THEY DO SEEK DIRECT REPORT, DIRECT SUPPORT THROUGH FUNDRAISING INITIATIVES ALREADY. SO CERTAINLY THESE MUNICIPALITIES CAN PROVIDE MONEY TO THE OPERATION OF THE SHELTER DIRECTLY TO OUR DAILY BREAD. HAS THAT HAPPENED SINCE THE SHELTER HAS BEEN OPEN YET? NO, WE'RE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY PROVIDING ONGOING OPERATIONAL SUPPORT. THEY DO RECEIVE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. WE CAN PROVIDE AN EXACT BREAKDOWN, BUT THEY DO HAVE CHURCHES PROVIDING ASSISTANCE. THEY DO HAVE GRANTS.

SO THERE ARE THEY ARE RECEIVING SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DENTON. CURRENTLY. I GUESS I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT A ROBUST PLAN FOR SOLICITING SUPPORT FROM OUR OTHER COUNTY CITIES LOOKS LIKE. AND I RECOGNIZE TIME IS GETTING AWAY. I WANT TO LEAVE SOME TIME FOR MAYOR QUICKLY BEFORE WE I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO REEVALUATE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS, BUT BEFORE THOSE ACTUALLY GO IN PLACE, I DO HOPE THAT THIS BODY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE REVISED REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE. CORRECT. YEAH, THAT THE ACTION ITEM IS FOR US TO GO BACK AND THEN DRAFT A PROPOSAL. LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND BRING THAT BACK FOR COUNCIL CONVERSATION. AND THEN ULTIMATELY YOUR RECOMMENDATION BEFORE ANYTHING CHANGES. IF WE CHANGE THE BARRIERS WE NEED TO AMEND THE OPERATING AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION. ALSO, I WILL JUST NOTE THAT FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO OFTEN SEE AN UNHOUSED PERSON AND FEEL UNSAFE, FEELINGS ARE NOT ALWAYS FACTS. THE DATA SUPPORTS THAT UNHOUSED FOLKS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE VICTIMS OF CRIME THAN PERPETRATORS. I WILL ALSO NOTE, FOR US, JUST AS A BODY TO WE DO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT LET US MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CAREFUL WITH THIS CONVERSATION. WE UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER CITIES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE ASSISTING PEOPLE WITH GETTING TO DENTON, BUT THIS COMMUNITY IN LARGE PART DOES NOT FEEL LIKE THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO. SO LET'S BE MINDFUL OF DOING SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE. IF IT'S UNLOADING A PROBLEM ON SOMEONE ELSE, BUT

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BUT OTHER TIMES IT'S THEY DIDN'T GET A BED OR I HAVE A BROKEN TOENAIL. AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER SESSION THAT'S COMING IN DECEMBER TO TALK ABOUT THE ENCAMPMENTS AND, AND A RECOMMENDATION HOW TO DEAL THAT. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE AND IT'S NOT SOMETHINGET SOLVE HOMELESSNESS HERE. WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE IT RARE AND NOT OCCURRING. FOR SOME. WE CAN WHERE IT WHERE IT'S A BRIEF SITUATION, BUT SOLVING HOMELESSNESS IS A REOCCURRING PROBLEM BECAUSE OF PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF HOMELESSNESS. AND SO THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS SET PARAMETERS AND COUNCIL ENDORSE THOSE. AND YOU ALL HELP US TO GET OTHER CITIES TO BUY IN AND PROVIDE THE CARE THAT WE CAN IN AN EMERGENCY SHELTER SITUATION, BUT MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THIS IS NOT AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. AND THAT'S AND I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DEALT WITH THIS FOR YEARS AND WROTE THE WROTE THE REPORT FOR 12 PAGES AND IN A LARGE CITY THAT HAD TO WORK ON THIS AND IT AND IT'S STILL NOT WORKING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST ANALYSIS OF A CASE MANAGER. AND HERE'S WHERE I'M LOOKING. I, I COMPARE IT TO WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT COULDN'T HANDLE THE WORKLOAD WE HAD. RIGHT. AND SO WE OUTSOURCED THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TELEHEALTH OR SOMETHING, BUT I

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SOMEONE'S SLEEPING ON A BENCH OUT THERE. THERE'S TRASH AROUND THERE. THERE'S TRASH ALONG THE WALK PATH. DME HAD TO GO BACK AND CLEAN THAT UP. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT AGAIN. I WANT IT TO BE A DISCUSSION, BUT I JUST IF I'M ADVOCATING FOR PEOPLE DONATING, PARTICIPATING, VOLUNTEERING FOR THE SHELTER, THE COMPONENT TO THAT IS, HEY, I CAN, YOU KNOW, VISUALLY, WE'RE SHOWING SUCCESS. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING IT. AND IT'S THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. I KNOW THAT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, YOU KNOW. DO YOU GO OUT THERE? IT'S NOT SAFE. THAT'S WHY I'M NOT PROPOSING A FIX. I'M JUST WANTING US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND HAVE IT IN CONCERT WITH THOSE THAT ARE SEEING THAT ARE THERE DAY IN, DAY OUT AND CAN INFORM THOSE DECISIONS AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHAT'S MANAGEABLE AND NO DIFFERENT THAN TELL ME WHAT WE NEED TO DO. NO DIFFERENT THAN THE FENCE, RIGHT? I JUST SAID, HEY, WE NEED A FENCE. GREAT. LET ME GO MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS. WE HAVE A FENCE, SO I'M HAPPY TO GET MY TO ROLL UP MY SLEEVES AND GET IN THERE WITH THEM. I JUST NEED DIRECTION ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT JUST PROVIDING FEEDBACK BASED ON WHAT I HEAR.

YEAH, I THINK EVERYONE'S TOUCHED ON IT, BUT IT'S JUST A CLEAR COMMUNICATION OF AN EXIT PLAN.

WHEN YOU ARRIVE, AND THAT JUST SETS THE TONE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S JUST A DIFFERENT TONE AND EXPECTATION. RIGHT. AND I THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT TAKES A LOT JUST TO KIND OF WHEN YOU WALK IN. AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY MANAGER TOUCHED ON THE BARRIERS AND WHAT THAT'S NEEDED. AND I UNDERSTAND THE LOW BARRIER I DO, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCES. I USED TO I MEAN, IF SOMEONE IS NOT COGNITIVELY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND FOR WHATEVER REASON BASED ON SUBSTANCES, THERE'S IT JUST BECOMES DANGEROUS FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEY FEEL NO PAIN. RIGHT? SO YOU'RE THINKING, OH, WELL, YOU CAN RESTRAIN THEM. YOU CAN DO THIS. WELL, NO, THAT'S THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE BECAUSE OF DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS AND THAT THE LEVEL OF STRENGTH OR THE RESPONSE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, IT'S JUST SO FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL INVOLVED VOLUNTEERS. ET CETERA. RIGHT. BECAUSE IF I WANT TO TAKE AGAIN, IF I'M ADVOCATING FOR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS TO GO VOLUNTEER THERE OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE 18, THEY HEY, THEY NEED TO BE SAFE. THERE'S THERE WOULD BE NOTHING WORSE THAN TO HAVE AN INCIDENT THERE FROM A FROM A VOLUNTEER STANDPOINT. AND THEN LOTS OF FOLKS TALKED ABOUT THE REGIONAL FUNDING AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS THAT I JUST AGREE, YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM TO PARTICIPATE. AND I DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IF NOT AT THE RIGHT LEVEL, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES, THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE IT'S A COUNTY FACILITY AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE IT HAS COUNTY DOLLARS. AND SO THAT THAT AND SO I'LL SKIP DOWN TO MY LAST POINT, THIS, THIS, THIS IS A PERFECT SUMMARY FOR ME. AND THIS IS WHERE DENTON STANDS TO BEGIN TO SET ITSELF APART. AND IT'S A HARD CONVERSATION, BUT IT'S A FACT. SO IN LATE JUNE, UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT RULED SIX THREE WITH THE WITH THE CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY VOTING TOGETHER, THAT CITIES THAT ARE ALLOWED TO ENFORCE FINES MAKE ARRESTS FOR PUBLIC CAMPING AND SLEEPING OUTDOORS, AND THREATEN JAIL TIME FOR THOSE WHO REPEATEDLY REFUSE TO MOVE INDOORS OR ACCEPT ASSISTANCE.

ASSISTANCE. THAT LAST PART, EXCEPT ASSISTANCE. SO WE HAVE A SHELTER WE CAN ENFORCE AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN ANYONE IN THIS, IN THIS REGION THAT SANGE, CRUM, LEWISVILLE, ANYONE WE HAVE TO SHELTER INCLUDED AND FOCUSED HERE AVAIL OURSELVES OF THAT. WE INVESTED IN THAT FOR A REASON.

THE LAW SAYS WE CAN APPROACH THIS PROBLEM DIFFERENTLY AND IF WE DON'T USE THE TOOLS OF OUR

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WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU GET BACK ON YOUR FEET. WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU GET GAINFULLY EMPLOYED.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT, THEN THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. SO THAT THAT TO ME IS THE IS THE APPROACH. THE REGIONAL APPROACH IS AND IT'S A VARIATION OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID. BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS, OUR INVESTMENT AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX THAT ARE UNIQUE. AND YOU TOUCHED ON WHAT I WOULD JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, MY QUESTION IS, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR BACK ON SOME PEOPLE RAISED THE ISSUE ALREADY. I'D LIKE TO HEAR BACK ON IF SOMEONE'S THERE OVER AN EXTENDED TIME. SO THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE FOR THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE PROHIBITION. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE HERE ALL DAY. YOU CAN BE HERE IN THE EVENING TO SLEEP. YOU CAN BE CHECKED OUT THE NEXT MORNING, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. RIGHT. BUT IF WE HAVE TO MOVE SOMETHING WHERE YOU CANNOT JUST BE THERE 100 DAYS, YOU KNOW, 360 DAYS A YEAR, 365 DAYS A YEAR, AND NEVER LEAVE THE FACILITY THAT IS THAT'S YOUR HOME AT THAT POINT. AND SO TO SOME KIND OF MANAGEMENT THAT SAYS, OKAY, THERE'S A PHASE BETWEEN THAT FIRST 120, 130 DAYS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IS DECIDED. GREAT. ALL IN. OKAY. NEXT 60 DAYS, WE'RE TRANSITIONING. YOU CAN'T BE HERE ALL DAY. YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND WORK. DO YOU KNOW? DO SOMETHING. COME BACK AND SEE US. THAT EVENING, AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S A PHASE THREE THAT'S LIKE, WELL, WE CAN'T WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT AVAILABILITY THERE IS, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A PHASED APPROACH AND HOPEFULLY INCENTIVIZES PEOPLE TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF, OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TRAINING. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. AND THEN FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, BETTER SAID MEDICAL STANDPOINT, I'D LIKE TO SEE US REACH OUT TO NCTC BECAUSE THEY HAVE I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE REALLY GREAT SCHOOL FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT. I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER HAS ALREADY TALKED TO TWU AS WELL, AND MAYBE THAT'S A BRIDGE, RIGHT, TO SAY SOMEONE'S GOT TO BE THERE. MAYBE THERE'S SHIFTS, MAYBE THERE'S VOLUNTEER THINGS, THERE'S HOURS, THERE'S PARTNERSHIPS WITH DIFFERENT PROFESSORS, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. I JUST WANT TO MAYBE USE THEM AS A RESOURCE. IN CONJUNCTION WITH TWU AND SEE WHERE WE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN AMAZING MEDICAL PROGRAM. BOTH BOTH SCHOOLS HAVE AN AMAZING MEDICAL PROGRAM, AND THAT GIVES THEM REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE BE GREAT.

AND MAYBE IT'S A TRANSITION TO CHIEF HEDGES LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PARAMEDICS. RIGHT.

HEY, YOU'VE BEEN HERE. WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU. WE SEE YOUR WORK. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH DENTON, AND MAYBE IT BECOMES A PIPELINE FOR GREAT, EXCEPTIONAL TALENT. THEN. YEAH, YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S THE JUST THE GIST OF WHAT I HAD, BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE WENDY A CHANCE. IF SHE HAS SOMETHING TO. SHE HAD TO LEAVE. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO. YEAH. BRIEFLY. VERY BRIEFLY. BUT COME ON UP. YEAH YEAH YEAH, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU HAVE THE FLORIDA. ABSOLUTELY.

EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T BRING ANY BARBECUE. YEAH. WELL I'M GOING BACK TO DO IT. I'M GOING MANCHESTER BY THE WAY, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS Y'ALL ARE SAYING.

IT'S BEEN A LOT HARDER THAN WE THOUGHT US WITH THE CITY AND THE STAFF YEARS AGO PUT TOGETHER THIS AGREEMENT AND THIS PLAN EVERYTHING. AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE IN THE WORDS OF THE WELL,

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RIGHT. LAST YEAR OR TO DATE THIS YEAR, WE'VE HAD 2380 DIFFERENT PEOPLE VOLUNTEER AT THE SHELTER, PUTTING IN 56,000 VOLUNTEER HOURS. MOST OF THOSE ARE CITY OF DENTON RESIDENTS. AND SO IT MEANS A LOT TO OUR CITY, TO OUR RESIDENTS, I THINK, AND THAT THEY FEEL A MORAL AND A RELIGIOUS OBLIGATION TO HELP THOSE IN NEED. AND THAT'S WHAT MONSIGNOR KING FOUNDED THIS ON THAT IT'S OUR DUTY TO HELP THOSE IN NEED. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ANY WAY WE CAN, AND LET'S FIND A SOLUTION. GOT IT. THANK YOU. AGREE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, WELL, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED. YES. GREAT. YES. YEAH. THIS IS MULTI-DIMENSIONAL. OBVIOUSLY, LOTS OF FOLLOW UPS. I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS A CAUTION THAT I FEEL. YES, AS COUNCILMEMBER JESTER POINTED OUT, THIS WAS RAISED AS A BY FAR AND AWAY A NUMBER ONE ISSUE. BUT FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, WE SEE THE SHELTER FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, THEY SEE HOMELESS PEOPLE, UNHOUSED PEOPLE. AND I WOULD CAUTION US AGAINST TRYING TO SOLVE SHELTER ISSUES IN A WAY THAT RESULTS IN MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE WOODS, MORE PEOPLE SLEEPING IN STORE DOORWAYS, THAT I DON'T THINK THE VOTERS WILL THANK US FOR. THAT. OUR APPROACH IS SAFETY, EFFICIENCY AND BEST OUTCOMES. THANKS ALL RIGHT OKAY. SO THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM.

WE'LL TAKE A BREAK FOR LUNCH. IT IS FIVE 5513. WE'LL COME BACK AT 545. THAT GIVES US 30 MINUTES TO GET IT. COME IN HERE. WE'LL GET STARTED IF WE SETTLE FASTER. BUT YOU AND GOOD EVENING. WELCOME BACK TO THIS MEETING OF THE DENTON CITY COUNCIL. IT IS 544. WE DO

[F. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction on pending City Council requests for: 1.) Allowing funds that roll off from incentives to be placed in the Catalyst Fund. 2.) Assessing changes that can be made to the building code to increase available renewable energy and to make it easier for residents to charge electric vehicles at their residence. [Estimated Presentation/Discussion Time: 30 minutes]]

THE OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS FOR THE CATALYST FUND, HOWEVER, INCLUDED ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TA, WASTEWATER AND WATER. RETURN OF INVESTMENT, DEDICATED PERCENTAGE OF UTILITY SYSTEM. THE BOTTOM LINE BEING, I THINK WITH THE TAX INCREASE, WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO MAKE THAT THERE IS NOT AN APPETITE FOR OUR TAXPAYERS RIGHT NOW TO FUND A LARGE PORTION OF THE CATALYST FUND. HOWEVER, I THINK AND FROM OUR LAST RETREAT, EVERYONE AGREED THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS IMPORTANT. SOME OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF OUR PLAN INCLUDE CORE RESILIENCY, FUTURE FOCUSED INCLUSIVE GROWTH, ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT, AND CULTURAL VITALITY. WE'RE ALSO COMPETING WITH OTHER CITIES. FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE TIME, THE STRATEGIC PLAN CAME OUT, MESQUITE HAD ABOUT 147,000, DENTON ABOUT 148,000 DENTON HAD COLLECTED AT THAT TIME, 27 MILLION AT ONE POINT, WHEREAS MESQUITE HAD 55,941,815. THE TYPE A AND TYPE B ANNUAL COLLECTIONS ARE POSSIBLE HERE

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ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO? I, I STOOD BY THE IDEA THAT, LOOK, IF THEY'RE ALL IF EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GO GET VETTED IN AN ISR, UNLESS IT'S OUTLANDISH, Y'ALL CAN BRING WHATEVER YOU WANT TO THE DAIS AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT. SO I LEAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH.

YES, I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE DETAILS ABOUT IT. I WILL SAY I HAVE SOME WORRIES THAT, YOU KNOW, REDEDICATION OF FUNDS MIGHT BE LEAD TO SOME DRAINING OF PROGRAMMATIC AREAS OF SPECIALTY. AND BY BYPASSING CERTAIN LEVELS OF COUNCIL OVERSIGHT, BUT THAT WILL POTENTIALLY COME OUT IN THE ISR. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE ISR. THANK YOU FOR THAT VOTE OF CONFIDENCE. COUNCIL MEMBER BECK OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE? YEAH, I'M VERY HAPPY TO READ ABOUT IN ISR. AND HERE'S AN ANGLE THAT I HOPE IS COVERED THAT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY CATALYST FUNDS OR THAT ARE INCENTIVIZED ARE MEANT TO EVENTUALLY HELP TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF REGULAR TAXPAYERS. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT 100% OR 0%, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION TO SEE, LIKE, IS THERE AN AMOUNT OF THAT THAT GOES BACK IN AND THEN IS THERE AN AMOUNT THAT ULTIMATELY IS PROVIDING TAX RELIEF TO RESIDENTS? OKAY, ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR THEN? FIVE I SUPPORT THE NOTION. AND TYPICALLY WE GIVE THIS A SMALL MEDIUM OR LARGE HIGH LOW MEDIUM WHATEVER THAT IS. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THAT AS WELL? SURE I WOULD I WOULD SAY LOW. OKAY.

THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE OF DISTRICT FIVE I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE PRIORITY SHE ASKED FOR WAS, BUT WHATEVER PRIORITY SHE ASKED FOR, I'M OKAY WITH IT. I SUPPORT THIS PITCH. I MEAN, THE TRUTH IS, WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY LOCKED UP INTO DCTA THAT ANY TIME WE CAN, WE CAN FIND MONEY, SHAKE THE COUCH CUSHIONS AND LOOK IN THE GLOVE BOX AND IN THE CUP HOLDERS AND FIND SOME MONEY TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE DOING THAT. SO WELL DONE. I LOOK FORWARD TO AN ISR IN THIS PROCEEDING. PASS AN ISR TO WHATEVER CORRESPONDING, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE STAFF RECOMMENDS AS A SORRY. AS A REMINDER, THIS IS FOR AN ORDINANCE. SO THIS IS ONE WHERE IF YOU GET SIX VOTES, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE ORDINANCE. AND TO PASS, OKAY, YOU ASKED FOR IT, MR. MAYOR. HE ASKED FOR AN ORDINANCE. I MEAN, HE'S HE'S DOING FORMATS. SO AN ORDINANCE IN IN THE ALTERNATIVE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. I DON'T SEE MAYOR THAT MAYBE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION. CORRECT FIRST. ALL RIGHT. WE BRING IT BACK FOR A WORK SESSION OR STRAIGHT TO THE VOTE. GO STRAIGHT TO THE VOTE. OH, OKAY. CAN I AMEND MINE? YES. OKAY. I THINK THE PITCH IS A GREAT IDEA IN LIGHT THAT THIS GOES STRAIGHT TO A VOTE. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE MORE GERMANE FOR AN ISR OR A WORK SESSION FIRST, JUST SO THINGS HAVE WORKED OUT. BUT OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT THE OVERALL CONCEPT, JUST NOT STRAIGHT TO THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, MAYOR. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM. WAIT. YEAH. YOU WELL YOU NEW INFORMATION.

WELL, IT'S NOT NEW. HE POINTED IT OUT, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT'S IN THE BACKUP. UNLESS YOU CHANGE THAT. NO, IT'S HERE. MAYOR. I'M JUST KIDDING. YEAH, THAT'D BE A GOOD TRICK, THOUGH. GO. GO RIGHT AHEAD. YEAH. I WAS OPERATING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THE NEW PROCESS. SO I'M JUST UNDERSCORING THAT. THAT. BUT IT BUT I JUST JUST GO STRAIGHT TO YOUR THE SIDEBAR COMMENT IS WHAT GETS ME RIGHT. BECAUSE THE NEW PROCESS IS THAT IT GOES TO ISR IF IT REQUESTED. BUT YOU'RE ALSO THE NEW PROCESS SAYS IF YOU GET ENOUGH VOTES, YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO ACTION. SO IT'S ALL CAPTURED IN THE NEW PROCESS. JUST STATE, JUST GO. START WITH I WANT TO CHANGE MY MIND AND SA, OKAY, NO, I'M NOT CHANGING MY MIND. I ACTUALLY SAID I'M HAPPY WITH IT. GOING TO THE ISR. SO I'M JUST UNDERSCORING THAT, THAT POINT, THAT WAS MY I TAKE YOUR POINT, MAYOR. AND FORTUNATELY IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I SAID, WHICH IS ISR. SURE. YOU'RE

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WE'RE ALREADY A COUNCIL PRIORITY FROM THE PREVIOUS RETREAT AS WELL AS A DCR PRIORITY. SO I THINK THIS IS THE LOWEST OF LOWEST HANGING FRUIT. SO I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS. AND ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. PERFECT TOPIC FOR DXY. SO YOU KNOW AFTER ISR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT IF WE CAN MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE GAS STATION AT ALL IF THEY BUY IT, YOU KNOW, BUY A USED ELECTRIC CAR. THAT'S THE THING. NOW THERE ARE USED ONES AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE GAS STATION AT ALL. I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BUILD THAT INTO OUR CODES. SO I'M VERY INTERESTED IN EXPLORING IT.

ANYONE ELSE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NOTION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT IN A CHARGING STATION IN THEIR HOUSE AS THEY BUILD THE HOUSE, THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO DO THAT.

OR THEY COULD DO IT RETRO. I JUST I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT ONE. I'LL. I'LL SUPPORT A LOW PRIORITY. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, YEAH. SO I'LL JUST SAY THIS. I'M GOING TO USE MY TIME. WE HAD A TWO MINUTE PITCH AND I DON'T KNOW THE DATE. IT'S JUNE 22ND AND THEN WE HAD A FULL WORK SESSION ON THIS VERY ITEM. TEN 1822 I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE THIS PITCH, NOT JUST TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SO NOW YOU HAVE THEY'LL DO THE SAME WORK AGAIN. MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THEY HAVE THE WORK SESSION FROM THAT FROM TEN 1822 ATTACHED. JUST I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER GO FORWARD GOING BACKWARDS. SO WHY NOT PICK UP ON THE WORK THAT STAFF ALREADY DID AND THEN PUT FORWARD SOMETHING AMENDMENTS OR AT LEAST BECAUSE WE WERE ALL IN THAT CONVERSATION. AND SO I'M JUST I'M JUST I JUST WISH WE WOULD BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN

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TAKES US TO. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW AT 5:57 P.M, CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE

[1. Closed Meeting:]

DELIBERATIONS REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.087.

THE OTHER TWO WERE PLACEHOLDERS THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED. SO OKAY. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOW AT 6:33 P.M, RECONVENED FROM THE CLOSED SESSION, AND NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN. THAT TAKES US TO OUR EVENING'S AGENDA. AND LET ME GET THERE. SO FIRST, IT'S THE

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

THANK YOU. I THINK HE'S DONE, MAC. MAX. TONY. DISCUSS THREE. I AM NOT DOING IT. NOT THE ITEM.

OKAY. ARE WE ABLE TO FIND IT? YES, SIR. OKAY. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS NOW? RATHER THAN IN FRONT OF THE VOTE OR. WELL, HERE'S HERE'S HOW THAT'LL WORK. YOU'VE ASKED SOMEONE TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY WITH NO REASON, SO I MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT AND THEN WE WON'T GET TO IT I GOT IT. THANK YOU. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE NOTION OF SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY ON OFFICE FURNITURE. I THINK THAT'S I THINK AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3 MILLION IS A TON IS A LOT. AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHY THAT'S NECESSARY. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD. OKAY. WELL, ARE YOU PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THAT? OH, LET'S GET IT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. TOM GREENBURG, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND FLEET. SO THE REASON FOR THE CITYWIDE CONTRACT IS NOT ONLY FOR THE ONGOING REPAIR, SERVICING, MAINTENANCE AND NEW STAFF COMING ON BOARD, BUT WE ALSO UTILIZE THIS CONTRACT FOR NEW VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION FOR ITEMS THAT ARE GOING INSIDE THE BUILDINGS. IF IT DOES NOT GET ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE GC CONTRACT. SO IT LOCKS IN A PRICE SO THAT IT AS AS NEEDED, YOU CAN NOT HAVE TO GO OUT BASED ON OPEN MARKET IF YOU WILL, AND RENEGOTIATE REBID ALL THOSE THINGS. CORRECT. OKAY. GOT IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I ADDRESS THAT PLEASE. BY ALL MEANS. IS THERE A SPECIFIC PURCHASE, A SPECIFIC PURCHASE FOR A SPECIFIC BUILDING THAT THAT COMES TO MIN? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO WE HAVE THE NEW SERVICE CENTER COMING ON THROUGH THE THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WILL THAT WILL REQUIRE FFA BUILD OUT THE FLEET SERVICES SHOP, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ALSO WILL HAVE FFA BUILD OUT FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT WHEN WE CONDUCT RENOVATIONS WITHOUT THROUGH CITY FACILITIES. IT REQUIRES THE PURCHASING OF NEW FURNITURE. TRADITIONALLY, IF WE'RE NOT REUSING WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE AND FURNITURE WOULD BE A DESKS DESK, CHAIRS, CREDENZAS I PRESUME. FILE CABINETS? YES, SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THAT'S USUALLY IT.

IT'S JUST THE MAIN OFFICE SUITE OF WHEN YOU SEE STAFF MEMBERS WORKING IN THEIR SPACE, IT DOES INCORPORATE SOME GUEST CHAIRS AND THE LITTLE TABLES THAT WILL SIT NEXT TO IT IN THE WAITING

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AFTER THE FACT. SO THE SECONDARY MARKET ISN'T REALLY THE GREATEST FOR ACQUIRING STAFF'S FURNITURE.

OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR, I CAN VOUCH FOR THAT. I'VE BEEN MORE THAN WILLING TO REUSE THE MAYOR'S DESK. JUST JUST IT'S LOOKS THE SAME. YEAH, IT'S HANGING TOUGH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, BUT FOR THE MOTION BEFORE US IS CONSENT AGENDA. BUT FOR A E WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON IT. OH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE. YEAH. THANKS. I WAS GOING TO JUST EXTEND THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE FURTHER.

I'LL TAKE I'LL ASK THE QUESTION SLOW SO YOU HAVE TIME TO GET DOWN TO THE MIC. BUT THIS IS A FIVE YEAR NUMBER. SO IT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT A NOT TO EXCEED ON AVERAGE OF 600,000 A YEAR. DO YOU ANTICIPATE SPENDING 600,000 A YEAR? WE DON'T, BUT WE MUCH RATHER BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. IF THERE'S A RENOVATION OR, SAY, LIKE THE MUNICIPAL COURTS WHEN IT FLOODS AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE THAT FURNITURE IF IT'S DAMAGED, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN'T HOUSE STAFF IN THEIR SPACES. SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROCURE IF NEED BE. YEAH. SO IT'S A IT'S A SORT OF A CEILING AND THEN ABOUT HOW MUCH LIKE BALLPARK IS LIKE A FULL OFFICE SUITE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN ALL THE PIECES YOU'D BUY 1000, 2000.

YEAH, WE HAVE ABOUT THREE TIERS. AND YOU HAVE THE, THE MAIN ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE ENTRY LEVEL EMPLOYEES. THAT'S ROUGHLY $1,500. THEN YOU'LL DOUBLE THAT AND THEN DOUBLE THAT ON TOP. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $3,000 FOR THE MID GRADE FOR MANAGERS.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE EXECUTIVE SUITES YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 5500. SO YOU'RE IN SOMETHING LIKE FUNDING LIKE 200 WORK SPACES. YOU KNOW A YEAR. YES. OKAY. THANKS. OF COURSE.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A SORT OF A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. I MEAN, IF WE SUPPORT BOTH THE BULK CONSENT AND THE ONE ITEM CONSENT, HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE RUNNING THOSE VOTES? JUST AS TWO REGULAR VOTES. YES, YES. SO IF THIS FAILS, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER MOTION AND WE'LL DO IT ALL AT ONCE. OR IF THIS PASSES, WE'LL TAKE THEM IN TWO, TWO VOTES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. OKAY. MOTION BEFORE US IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT FOR A E, LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FOUR THREE TAKES US TO ITEM A E,

[AE. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Wilson Bauhaus Interiors LLC, an authorized dealer, through the Omnia Partners Contract Nos. R191802 Allsteel, R191811 National, R191803 Exemplis, & 2019.001896 Kimball Office, for procurement fulfillment of office furniture for the City of Denton for the Facilities Management Department; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (File 8498 - awarded to Wilson Bauhaus Interiors LLC, in the five (5) year not-to-exceed amount of $3,000,000.00).]

[A. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a city-initiated Comprehensive Plan Amendment to modify the Thoroughfare Plan and Thoroughfare Map of the 2022 Mobility Plan, including but not limited to modifications to the Mobility Plan to amend the functional classification of Underwood Road from Primary Arterial to Secondary Arterial between Airport Road and the future southern extension of H Lively Road and to remove a portion of future Amyx Road between C Wolfe Road and the future western extension of Loop 288. The general area of change is located west of Interstate 35W, south of Airport Road, east of C Wolfe Road, and north of Old John Paine Road in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official mobility plan; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Pruett and seconded by Commissioner Thaggard. (MPA24-0002b, Underwood Road and Amyx Road Mobility Plan Amendment, Sahar Esfandyari)]

WE'LL DO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE'LL GET THAT KNOCKED OUT. OKA. PUBLIC HEARING ITEM A MP A240002 HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DENTON, TEXAS, REGARDING THE CITY INITIATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO MODIFY THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THOROUGHFARE MAP OF 2022 MOBILITY PLAN, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE MOBILITY PLAN TO AMEND THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION. OF

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ALSO, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS TO THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA.

ANOTHER MAIN, IMPORTANT, MAIN AND IMPORTANT REASON FOR THIS REQUEST. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THESE FUTURE ROAD IS GOING TO BE LOCATED BETWEEN FUTURE EXTENSION OF LOOP TO 88 AND I-35, WHICH ARE BOTH IDENTIFIED AS FREEWAYS, AND THEY HAVE MORE CAPACITY TO NAVIGATE THE NORTH SOUTH TRAFFIC WITH HIGHER SPEED AND MORE CAPACITY. AS I MENTIONED. AS FOR THE AMEX ROAD, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP THERE IS A SOIL CONSERVATION LAKE LOCATED IN A VERY CLOSE DISTANCE OF THIS FUTURE ROAD BY REMOVING THIS PORTION OF THIS ROAD, WE ARE GOING TO PREVENT ANY ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. ALSO, THERE IS A DAM LOCATED HERE. IF YOU CAN FOLLOW MY CURSOR WHICH MAKE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROAD ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. MOREOVER, THERE IS TOMKO ROAD, LOCATED TO THE NORTH SIDE OF AMEX ROAD IN PARALLEL OF THIS FUTURE ROAD WHICH IS GOING TO BE IMPROVED BY THE COLE RANCH DEVELOPMENT TO OFFSET THE REMOVAL OF THIS PORTION OF THIS, THIS AMEX ROAD. ALSO, THERE WILL BE MORE INTERNAL ROADS HERE TO TAKING CARE OF THE GENERATED TRAFFIC IN FUTURE IN THIS AREA. OVERALL, BOTH OF THESE PROPOSALS HAVE MET THE APPROVAL CRITERIA AND PER THE CITY OF DENTON REGULATIONS, WE HAVE DONE THE PUBLIC OUTREACH REQUIREMENTS AND WE HAVE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REQUEST. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FIVE ZERO OF THIS PROPOSAL, AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE CRITERIA IN SECTION TWO OF THE DDC. FOR APPROVAL OF A COMPREHENSIVE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO ANYONE CAN SPEAK IF YOU SO DESIRE. BUT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

ANY QUESTIONS SEEING NONE. IF I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FILLED OUT AGAIN IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE CARES TO SPEAK. SEEING NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX COUNCILPERSON JESTER. SO MOVES REPRESENTATIVE

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WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S SEE HOW THIS TURNS OUT. SHE ONLY GETS ONE MORE. WE EVEN HAVE TO. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM B, WHICH IS MP A240004. HOLD A

[B. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas, regarding a city-initiated Comprehensive Plan Amendment to modify the Thoroughfare Plan and Thoroughfare Map of the 2022 Mobility Plan. The amendment includes but is not limited to downgrading the current road classification of a future Hummingbird Lane section from Secondary Arterial to Collector. The proposal is generally located east of the intersection of Hummingbird Lane and North Loop 288 and extends east toward the intersection of Mills Road and North Mayhill Road in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the City’s official mobility plan; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Pruett and seconded by Commissioner Padron. (MPA24-0004b, Hummingbird Lane Road Classification, Sahar Esfandyari)]

THIS PROPOSAL HAS MET THE APPROVAL CRITERIA. AND PER THE CITY OF DENTON REGULATION, WE HAVE DONE THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REQUEST. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FIVE ZERO OF THIS PROPOSAL. STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSAL AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE CRITERIA IN SECTION TWO OF THE DDC. FOR APPROVAL OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SEEING NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK CAN COME DOWN AND SPEAK. WE'LL GIVE THAT A MINUTE.

SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM B.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. MOTION TO APPROVE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM C, ID 242182 TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO

[C. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton making a finding, pursuant to the requirements of Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife code, that (1) there are no feasible and prudent alternatives to the change in use of approximately 3.739 acres of city park land, located within Denia Park in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas, from a park to a public school for the construction of Denton Independent School District Borman Elementary School and (2) finding that all reasonable and planning has been done to minimize harm to the land as a park; and providing an effective date. (The Parks, Recreation and Beautification Board recommends approval with a vote of 5-0).]

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APPROXIMATELY 3.739 ACRES FOR 4.729 ACRES OF DISD PROPERTY. AS A REMINDER, DINO PARK IS A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A COMMUNITY PARK. 23 ACRES WITH MANY AMENITIES, PARK AMENITIES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MANY DECADE. MORMON ELEMENTARY SAME HAS BEEN OPEN SINCE 1970, HAS LIVED ITS USEFUL LIFE AND IS READY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. BASED ON THE DENTON ISD, BOND PROGRAM. THE LAND SWAP TERMS IN THE IN THE. THE REASON IS SO THAT DISD CAN BUILD THEIR NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND UTILIZE NEW PARK LAND AS A WAY, YOU KNOW, TO NOT DISRUPT THE EDUCATION OF THE OF THE STUDENTS. YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THAT TIME PERIOD. ONCE THE NEW BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED, THEY'LL TEAR DOWN THE OLD BUILDING AND CONSTRUCT A SOCCER FIELD IN ITS PLACE. SO THESE SLIDES ARE IDENTICAL TO THE SLIDES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL A MONTH AGO. WHAT I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS IS A THE UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN FROM DISD. I WANT TO DO WANT TO FOCUS ON IS THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY. AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC DURING OUR OUR MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO TO HIGHLIGHT THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY THAT THE CITY WILL GET AN ENHANCED AND IMPROVED PARK SPACE, INCLUDING NEW TURF GRADING, IRRIGATION, FENCING, TRAILS AND RELATED AMENITIES. WITH THAT NEW OPEN SPACE, THERE WILL BE IMPROVED VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE ENSURING THAT STUDENTS WILL HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE PARK, THROUGH TRAIL SYSTEMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THEN AS WELL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEW CONFIGURATION OF THE BUILDING AND THE NEW PLACEMENT ON THE SITE, THERE WILL BE AMPLE QUEUING SPACE WITHIN THE NEW LAND SO THAT CARS WON'T BACK UP ON PARVIN AS THEY DO TODAY. AND SO THERE WILL BE IMPROVED, YOU KNOW, CAR THROUGHPUT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE SITE. AND THEN WITH THE NEW ROAD BEING BUILT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'LL THAT'LL ESSENTIALLY ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE PRESSURE FROM ABOUT 30% OR SO OF THE VEHICLES COMING IN FROM THE NORTH. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME IN FROM THE SOUTH IN THE NEW CONFIGURATION, THE CITY WILL RETAIN THE EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT CURRENTLY SERVES BORMAN ELEMENTARY. THAT IS A PARKING LOT THAT IS USED AS OVERFLOW PARKING TODAY, SO THAT WILL BE RETAINED ON FUTURE PARK PROPERTY. THERE WILL BE A NEW DETENTION POND AS PART OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL HELP TO SERVE BOTH THE CITY AND DISD PARCELS AND HELP IMPROVE A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THE PARK IS SEEING TODAY. AND SO IT

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AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THE IMPROVED VEHICULAR CIRCULATION, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONGESTION ON PARVIN CURRENTLY WITH THE WITH THE WITH THE LAYOUT AND EXPLAINING TO THEM ABOUT THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE BUILDING, HOW IT WILL BENEFIT TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING ALONG PARVIN. AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL REITERATE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NEW ROAD TO THE SOUTH, MAINLY DISD STAFF WILL BE ABLE AND BUS DROP OFF WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN FROM THE SOUTH, ALLEVIATING ABOUT 30% OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION FROM THE NORTH. CURRENTLY, AGAIN, THERE'S EXPANDED PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY THROUGH TRAIL SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE PARK IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. AND THEN REUSE OF THE BORMAN PARKING LOT TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE BETTER, EASIER ACCESS TO THE TO THE FIELD FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING IT. CURRENTLY, THEY MAY BE PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT SOUTH OF THE BASEBALL FIELDS, OR IN THAT PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND WALKING TO THAT SOCCER FIELD AND SO NOW THEY'LL HAVE EASY ACCESS WITH THAT PARKING LOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THAT, TO THAT FIELD. SO IT'S JUST A MORE CONVENIENT, MORE SAFER SITUATION FOR, FOR FOLKS. WE ARE ADDING TREES AS PART OF THE DISD PROJECT OR THEY'RE ADDING TREES AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT BECAUSE THEY HAVE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS. SO THEY WILL BE PLANTING TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL AS USING THE PARK PROPERTY TO HELP HELP PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES. AS PART OF THAT PROJECT. AND SO LET'S SEE. OH, THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS THAT CURRENTLY THE PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH OF THE BASEBALL FIELDS IS ACCESSED ON BERNARD OR SORRY, THE OTHER STREET THAT'S OVER THERE. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT NOW. IT'S A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION WHERE BERNARD COMES IN AND INTERSECTS WITH THE PARKING LOT EXIT. AND SO WITH THE NEW ROAD BEING BUILT ALONG GRAVEL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP A SEPARATE ACCESS POINT TO THAT PARKING LOT AND ELIMINATE THAT THAT DRIVEWAY TO THE EAST. SO THAT WILL ALLEVIATE, YOU KNOW, SOME SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING ON THAT ROADWAY AND MAKE IT A BETTER ACCESS INTO THAT PARKING LOT. AND WITH THAT, THAT WAS THE BULK OF THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IN GENERAL, WHEN WE LEFT, THEY WERE IN SUPPORT AS A CONSENSUS. THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE, OF THE PROJECT. BUT I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT AND BE HERE FOR ANY ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO PEOPLE CAN SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO JUST NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. YOU MENTIONED YOU MENTIONED LIGHTING. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BUY CURTAINS TO BLOCK OUT THE LIGHT. NEVER MIND. THAT'S A THAT'S A DIFFERENT JOKE. ANY ANY QUESTIONS. IT'S A COWBOY'S JOKE.

THE SUNLIGHT LIGHT I'LL EXPLAIN LATER. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU. AND I AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE STAFF TAKING TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH THE WITH THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

AND BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION, I'M WONDERING IF AS AS GREAT A HERO AS FRANK BORMAN WAS, I WONDER IF THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR A LOCAL HERO WITH THE NAMESAKE OF THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL.

THAT'S FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO DISCUSS. BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. OKAY.

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IT'S MEANINGFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY FELT HEARD AND I CONSIDERING THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD USES THE PARK AND USES THE SCHOOL, I THINK IT WAS TIME. WELL SPENT. THANK YOU.

OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO TAKES US TO ITEM D ID 242015. HOLD A

[D. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an Ordinance of the City of Denton making a finding, pursuant to the requirements of Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, that (1) there are no feasible and prudent alternatives to the change in use of approximately 1.054 acres of City Park land for a sanitary sewer easement, located within a portion of Sagebrook Park in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas, for the purpose of installing and maintaining an underground sanitary sewer line for the Dentex Development, and (2) finding that all reasonable planning has been done to minimize harm to the land as a park and providing an effective date. (Parks, Recreation and Beautification Board recommended approval with a vote of 5-0.)]

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THOMAS. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M AHEAD OF MYSELF, CHARLES. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE SIX. THIS IS FIVE.

GO RIGHT AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THOMAS FLETCHER WITH KIMLEY-HORN. I AM THE ENGINEER FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THE LANDOWNERS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY COME THROUGH WITH THE ANNEXATION. THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, THE ZONING, AND THEN THE RECENTLY THE ALTERNATE ESA. THIS IS KIND OF THE LAST STEP IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC SEWER SYSTEM. WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS, AND I JUST WANTED TO BE HERE IN CASE THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. SO WITH THAT, I IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU CAN SPEAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TAKE A MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX. COUNCIL MEMBER JESTER. SO MOVES REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. SECOND. THE MOTION. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS

[E. Hold a public hearing and consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas regarding a change in the zoning district and use classification from Rural Residential (RR) District to Public Facilities (PF) District on approximately 40.00 acres of land generally located 3,075 feet south of Jim Christal Road and approximately 850 feet west of Tom Cole Road, in the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; adopting an amendment to the city’s official zoning map; providing for a penalty in the maximum amount of $2,000.00 for violations thereof; providing a severability clause and an effective date. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted (5-0) to recommend approval of the request. Motion for approval by Commissioner Villareal and second by Commissioner Pruett. (Z24-0014a, Denton Energy Center, Matt Bodine)]

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GOAL TO BE COST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT IN THE TRANSPORT AND PROCESSING OF MATERIAL. THIS CASE WAS NOTIFIED ACCORDING TO PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY OF DENTON, AND NO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED. THE PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. FIVE ZERO STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE DENTON DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK, THEY CAN. BUT IN THE MEANTIME IS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NO QUESTIONS. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT SEEING NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN REPRESENT RECOGNIZE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX COUNCILPERSON, JESTER MOVES AS A MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE WAS DONE SO IT MAKES IT EASY FOR US. THANK YOU.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE MATT I'LL COME DOWN TO. OH NO I GOT. ABANDON. THIS IS A MOVIE THAT TALKS ABOUT COORDINATING. IT'S. AND SO I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR TIE. YEAH. IT'S PERFECT. LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S GREAT. I HOPE YOU DON'T GET IT. MAY GET LOST. YOU'LL BE ALWAYS BLEND IN. IT'S A PRETTY GOOD TIE. HERE WE GO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. YES. OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU AGAIN. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. EXCELLENT. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK. YOU. SO, YOU KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. TAKES US TO OUR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION CONSIDERATION SECTION OF THE AGENDA. FIRST UP IS ITEM A WHICH

[A. Conduct the second of two readings of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas annexing approximately 0.039 acres of land, generally located west of Teasley Lane and approximately 170 feet north of Leatherwood Lane to the City of Denton, Denton County, Texas; providing for a correction to the City map to include the annexed land; and providing for a savings clause and an effective date. (A24-0003c, 5702 Teasley Lane, Mia Hines)]

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[B. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton approving an economic development agreement under chapter 380 of the Local Government Code to promote economic development and to stimulate business activity and economic growth of the City of Denton, between the City of Denton and Bloomfield Homes, L.P. regarding the expansion of operations and increase in tax revenue in the City of Denton; authorizing the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date.]

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THEY ARE A MARKET LEADING HOME BUILDER FOCUSED PRIMARILY IN THE DFW METRO AREA. THEY'RE HEADQUARTERED DOWN IN SOUTHLAKE AND FOUNDED IN 2004.

AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING 248 NEW HOMES HERE IN THE CITY OF DENTON AT COUNTRY LAKES, WHICH IS 160 LOTS, AND DOWN AT GLENWOOD MEADOWS, WHICH IS 88 LOTS DOWN ON THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST SIDE. SO CURRENTLY THEY PAY LOCAL SALES TAXES FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, WHERE THOSE SUPPLIERS HAVE A PLACE OF BUSINESS. SO WHEN THEY'RE BUYING LUMBER, STONE OR APPLIANCES, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THOSE TAXES WHERE ALL OF THAT IS STORED. ALTERNATIVELY, THEY CAN ISSUE THOSE SUPPLIERS A TEXAS DIRECT PAYMENT PERMIT, WHICH ALLOWS A HOME BUILDER TO PAY TAXES ON MATERIALS BASED ON THE LOCAL TAX RATES AT THE JOB SITES. IN THIS CASE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF DENTON. SO BLOOMFIELD HOMES IS PROPOSING THAT THE CITY ENTERS A TEN YEAR CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT WHERE THEY WILL USE THEIR TEXAS DIRECT PAY PERMIT AND THE COMPANY WILL RECEIVE A 33% REBATE ON OUR END. AND WE WILL RETAIN 67% OF THAT NEW REVENUE, WHICH OTHERWISE WOULD GO TO OTHER CITIES. SO A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON THOSE PAYMENT PERMITS. IT ALLOWS A QUALIFIED PURCHASER TO PAY THOSE TAXES DIRECTLY TO THE CONTROLLER, RATHER TO THE SELLER. AND TO QUALIFY, A COMPANY MUST HAVE AN EXPECTED TAXABLE PURCHASES OF AT LEAST $800,000 ANNUALLY, AND THOSE ITEMS HAVE TO BE USED FOR THE PURCHASER'S OWN USE AND NOT FOR DIRECT RESALE. SO IN THIS CASE, A HOME BUILDER HAS TO USE THOSE MATERIALS TO BUILD A HOME AS OPPOSED TO SELLING THAT LUMBER TO SOMEBODY ELSE. BLOOMFIELD HOMES HAS NOT USED THIS AS A NEW IDEA. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR A WHILE.

DIVERTING SALES TAX FUNDS FROM THESE MATERIAL PURCHASES TO 21 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES LIKE ANNA, SALINA, JUSTIN, A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE CURRENTLY BENEFITING FROM THE SAME AGREEMENT. AND HERE'S HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN. IT'S ESTIMATED THAT ABOUT $75,000 IS THE AVERAGE COST OF MATERIALS FOR BLOOMFIELD. FOR A HOUSE, IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THE LOCAL SALES TAX RATE, THAT'S ABOUT $1.1 THOUSAND IN LOCAL SALES TAX FROM PURCHASING THOSE MATERIALS UNDER

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JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHY. OKAY. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS FOR STAFF I'LL COME DOWN HERE. STEPS. ALL RIGHT. FIRST PRESENTATION HERE I KNOW YOU'VE YOU'VE PRESENTED OUT IN THE IN THE WORK SESSION BUT YOU'VE GRADUATED. SO HERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SURE.

APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. BEEN A GREAT PART OF THE TEAM. ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

HOLD ON DUSTIN WE NEED AN OFFICIAL ONE HERE. I JUST FEEL LIKE HE'S GOT IT. HERE WE GO.

HERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. OKAY. AND I WILL SAY, I KNOW THE I KNOW OF THIS PROCESS JUST FROM TALKING TO OTHERS, BUT. AND I'LL SAY THIS IF I BELIEVE IF THE, IF THE ISSUE WERE TO MANIFEST, IT WOULD HAVE BY NOW BECAUSE FRISCO AND CITIES IN THAT REGION HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS. SO I DON'T THINK I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT IT BENEFITS US LOW RISK. THEY DO THE MANAGEMENT AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. IT'S JUST THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT HERE TO THE BENEFIT OF OUR OUR CITY, I BELIEVE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I LAND. SO LET'S LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT PASSES 6 TO 1 TAKES US TO ITEM C WHICH IS ID 241861. CONSIDER

[C. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with HM & MF, Ltd., dba Muckleroy & Falls, for construction services of the Denton Solid Waste Fleet Shop project for the Capital Projects and Fleet Services Departments; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (CSP 8570 - awarded to HM & MF, Ltd., dba Muckleroy & Falls, in the not-to-exceed amount of $9,557,446.50). The Public Utilities Board recommends approval (4 - 0).]

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HE MAY HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THAT. THANK YOU SIR. TOM GREENWOOD, DIRECTOR OF FLEET FACILITIES. SO SOLID WASTE DOES HAVE THE MAJORITY OF FLEET ASSETS THAT THE CITY OWNS. AND THEY ARE CENTRALIZED AT THE LANDFILL WHERE WE CURRENTLY DO ALL THEIR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. AND MY QUESTION WAS, DO THEY HAVE THE MOST VEHICLE MAINTENANCE THAT MOST OF US, MOST VEHICLES, I WOULD ASSUME THEY HAVE THE MOST MAINTENANCE. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OF COURSE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST JUST SO I'M CLEAR, IS THE PROJECT SITE SHOWS THERE'S A BUILDING THERE EXISTING AND SO THAT THAT JUST GOES GOES AWAY, COMES BACK UP. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO LEAVE THAT BUILDING, SIR, AND BE PART OF A STORAGE WAREHOUSE. THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO BE NORTH WEST. IT'S GOING TO BE WEST OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY.

I SEE IT'S POINTING THERE. I THOUGHT IT WAS. I'M TRACKING WITH YOU NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THEN? I WILL TAKE A MOTION. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. I MOVE TO APPROVE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET ME SEE. THIS IS GREAT. OKAY, GREAT. COMING DOWN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION. IT'S A DIRTY JOB, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOT TO DO IT. GET THAT SOLID WASTE DIRTY. YOU'LL HIT YOU LATER. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. NOW, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN DENTON? TWO MINUTES. TWO YEARS. MAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IT'S TRULY EXCITING TIMES TO HAVE THAT MANY FIRST TIME PRESENTERS IN THE CITY. THE CITY IS GROWING WRITE IN GREAT STAFF. SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. TAKES US TO ITEM D ID 242224. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF

[D. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Axon Enterprise, Inc. through the Sourcewell Cooperative Purchasing Network Contract No. 101223-AXN, for the purchase of Axon Systems, including camera system, software license and storage, peripherals, warranty, maintenance, and installation services for the Police Department; authorizing the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (File 8666 - awarded to Axon Enterprise, Inc., in the five (5) year not-to-exceed amount of $9,336,464.00).]

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SO THE PURPOSE OF THE CONTRACT IS TO BRING MULTIPLE EXISTING CONTRACTS UNDER ONE COMPREHENSIVE CONTRACT. WE ALSO WANT TO REPLACE SOME STANDALONE SOFTWARE AND TIE IT IN WITH PRODUCTS THAT ARE INTEGRATED INTO AXON. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ADDING NEW TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITIES WITH THIS CONTRACT. SO THE EXISTING CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COMBINE RIGHT NO, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN OUR OSP SEVEN PLUS, WHICH INCLUDES BODY CAMERAS, TASERS, EVIDENCE.COM AND SEVERAL SOFTWARE ITEMS. ON EVIDENCE.COM, WE HAVE A SEPARATE CONTRACT WITH AXON FOR OUR FLEET. IN-CAR CAMERAS, A SECOND SEPARATE CONTRACT WITH AXON FOR OUR INTERVIEW ROOM RECORDING SETUP, AND THEN A SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR DRONE, SINCE THAT WAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED BY AXON, THE SOFTWARE THAT WE WANT TO REPLACE DRONE SINCE. SINCE AXON JUST BOUGHT, THE COMPANY WILL BE REPLACED WITH AXON AIR. WE USE A SOFTWARE APPLICATION CALLED SPIDERTECH, WHICH IS LIKE A CUSTOMER FEEDBACK SURVEY MECHANISM THAT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED BY MY 90 WITH AXON AND IPRO AND BLUE TEAM, WHICH IS A EMPLOYEE TRACKING SOFTWARE FOR COMMENDATIONS. EDUCATION DISCIPLINE IS GOING TO BE REPLACED WITH AXON STANDARDS. THE NEW TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE TASER SEVEN, WILL BE UPGRADED TO THE TASER TEN. WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE OUR IN-CAR CAMERAS TO FLEET THREE, WHICH WILL ALLOW LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION IN EVERY CAR, IN-CAR CAMERA SYSTEM AND LIVE STREAMING OF CAMERAS AND RECORD MODE SO THE SUPERVISOR COULD POTENTIALLY SEE FIRSTHAND DRIVING IN A PURSUIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MAKE A DECISION TO STOP THE PURSUIT. IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE ROBUST VR TRAINING FOR TASER TEN AND SCENARIO BASED TRAINING. THE DRAFT ONE AI REPORT WRITING ASSISTANT AND THE FUSUS CAMERA INTEGRATION AND REAL TIME AWARENESS SOFTWARE. SO OVER A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT LIFE, THE PROJECTED EXPENDITURE IS $9.3 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE EXISTING CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE REPLACING. SO OUR ACTUAL NET INCREASE OVER THE FIVE YEAR SPAN GOING TO THIS CONTRACT WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS IS GOING TO. BE $4,479,278. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. GREAT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. HEY CHRIS I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. THE OLD SOFTWARE. WHAT WAS DRONE SENSE SPIDER SOMETHING OR OTHER. AND I PRO OR ARE THOSE COMPANIES OR PACKAGES GOING AWAY I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSAL IS TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM THEM, BUT IS THE SOFTWARE AND THE VENDOR ITSELF CANCELING, QUITTING, GOING BANKRUPT OR ANYTHING? NO. THE MY 90 THAT'S GOING TO REPLACE SPIDER TECH'S ACTUALLY A SUPERIOR PRODUCT. THAT'S NOT JUST AN AUTOMATED TEXT CUSTOMER SERVICE POLE. SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU MADE A 911 CALL TO DISPATCH, YOU'D GET A TEXT ASKING HOW WE DID ON THE CALL. SO THE MY 90 WILL DO THAT. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO USE LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA TO GENERATE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, POLLS ON HOW WE'RE DOING IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO GENERATE POLLS WITHIN THE AGENCY TO MEASURE OFFICER MORALE, GATHER OFFICER OPINION FOR DIRECTION, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A SOFTWARE IMPROVEMENT. THE IA PRO AND BLUE TEAM, IT'S ADEQUATE BUT IT'S CLUNKY. THE AXON STANDARDS IS GOING TO INTEGRATE IT WHERE ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT LIKE ON A USE OF FORCE COMPLAINT RATHER THAN HAVING TO CARRY THAT EVIDENCE OVER FROM EVIDENCE.COM INTO IA PRO AND BLUE TEAM, EVERYTHING WILL BE HOUSED IN ONE PLACE. YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING THERE AND IT'S MORE ROBUST IN TERMS OF SEPARATING IT, SEPARATING OUT. THIS IS THE COMPLAINT SECTION. THIS IS THE COMMENDATION SECTIO.

THIS IS THE EDUCATION AND TRAINING SECTION TO TRACK, YOU KNOW EMPLOYEE THEIR THEIR PROGRESS AS THEY WORK FOR THE ORGANIZATION. OKAY. BUT DO WE DO WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH OUR

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IT'S AN INEFFICIENCY THAT WE CAN RESOLVE. AND THE PERFORMANCE IS BETTER. THE AI PRO AND BLUE TEAM SOFTWARE IS VERY, NOT VERY USER FRIENDLY AT ALL. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES AXON A GOOD PARTNER FOR US IS IT'S VERY INTUITIVE ON WHAT YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND HELPS. IT'S EASIER TO NAVIGATE. IT REQUIRES ALMOST NO TRAINING. OKAY, WELL, I GUESS, AND I'LL THINK ABOUT THE ANSWERS AND LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. BUT I GUESS WE'RE WE'RE ADDING $5 MILLION TO THE FIVE YEAR OR TEN YEAR BUDGET. FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEAR BUDGET, 4.4. AND SO $4.5 MILLION. AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS IT WORTH THE I MEAN, WHAT'S THE $800,000 PER YEAR ADVANTAGE TO US FOR KEEPING PACKAGES THAT WORK VERSUS VERSUS? I MEAN, SO WE'RE GETTING FOR $800,000, THE WE'RE NOT JUST SPENDING THE 800,000 ON THE TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENT. WE'RE ALSO BRINGING ON NEW TECHNOLOGY LIKE THE FUZE SYSTEM. WE'RE UPGRADING THE TASER WEAPON SYSTEMS. WE'RE UPGRADING THE IN-CAR VIDEO CAMERAS WITH ADDITIONAL FEATURES AND NEW SOFTWARE PLATFORMS THAT ARE ALL ADDITIONAL FEES FOR USE. SO THE $800,000 SPEND IS NOT SOLELY FOR TO REPLACE SPIDER TECH TO REPLACE AA PRO AND BLUE TEAM, AND TO MOVE OVER FROM DRONE SENSE ■TO AXON IR, WHERE ARE MAKING ADDITIONAL TECHNOLOGY ADDS AS WELL. THE AI REPORTING TOOL DRAFT ONE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE CRITICAL ONES, IN MY OPINION. I'VE HAD CONTACT WITH ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT WAS ONE OF THE COOPERATIVE TEST PARTNERS WITH AXON AS THEY WERE DEVELOPING THAT. THEY'RE A SIMILAR SIZE AGENCY TO DENTON PD, AND THE TIME THAT THEIR OFFICERS SPENT ON REPORT CALLS WAS REDUCED BY ABOUT 70%. SO AS WE'RE IN A CLIMATE WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND QUALIFIED CANDIDATES TO FILL OUR RANKS, TO KEEP UP WITH GROWTH, IF YOU CAN CUT DOWN STAFF TIME ON SOMETHING LIKE WRITING A THEFT REPORT FROM WALMART OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BY 70%, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE PUTTING NEW OFFICERS ON THE STREET. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT ANSWER THAT THAT HELPS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. REPRESENTATIVE, FROM DISTRICT SIX, COUNCILPERSON JESTER AND ACTUALLY, I THINK THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER BECK HELPED ANSWER SOME OF MY QUESTIONS, AS IN IN THE ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE THE COST. THE COST. ANALYST ARE WE ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, NOT NEEDING TO HIRE AS MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE TIME SAVINGS THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE, AS WELL AS THE MATERIALS THAT YOU'VE LISTED ALREADY THAT ARE WRAPPED UP INTO THE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN ANSWER ON THAT I WOULD SAY MY GUT RESPONSE WOULD BE NO, WE WE'RE STILL NEEDING NEW PEOPLE. IT'S JUST BEING MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE. AND GETTING BACK TO A POSTURE WHERE MAYBE WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE AND LESS REACTIVE AND BE BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS WHEN I STARTED MANY YEARS AGO. I GUESS MY THOUGHT WAS, IF YOU ARE DECREASING THE AMOUNT OF TIME CUMULATIVELY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NEED AS MANY PEOPLE FOR CERTAIN TASKS. IF IT'S EASIER TO DO, AND IT CAN BE DONE IN A FASTER AMOUNT OF TIME, WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO SEE THE PROOF IN THE PUDDING BEFORE WE MADE THAT CALL. IN THE FUTURE, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A BREAKDOWN WITH THIS KIND OF ASK. JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, AND I KNOW THAT OUR CITIZENS PUBLIC SAFETY IS UP THERE. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO AS A CITY IS PROVIDE THAT. AND SO IT'S OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANC. SO I SUPPORT IT. BUT THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION FOR THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. WE DO HAVE ONE CARD. MR. CHARLES LEE. IF YOU CAN COME UP YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES. HI. HOW ARE YOU DOING? MY NAME IS CHARLES LEE. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW, I THINK I THINK I WENT THROUGH THE WORK SESSION WITH THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME EXACT ITEM, BUT MY CONCERNS IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC INFORMATION. HOW LONG? HOW LONG IS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION GOING TO BE HOUSED FOR? BECAUSE LIKE, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY FOR THIS. BUT IF THIS IS A LONG TERM HOUSING OF PUBLIC INFORMATION, I HAVE LIKE CIVIL, CIVIL, LIBERTARIAN CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THAT INFORMATION COULD BE WEAPONIZED AGAINST POLITICAL DISSIDENTS AND IN THE FUTURE.

AND THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN ABOUT THE ABOUT THE PROJECT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M FOR IT. LIKE, LIKE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE INFORMATION, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION, IF IT'S NOT, IF IT

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[E. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Wells Fargo Merchant Services, L.L.C., for debit/credit card processing for the Finance Department; providing for the expenditure of funds therefor; and providing an effective date (RFP 8601 - awarded to Wells Fargo Merchant Services, L.L.C., in the five (5) year not-to-exceed amount of $10,000,000.00).]

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THOSE ARE THE THREE BRANDS THAT WE ACCEPT, AND THAT IS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE THEIR RAILS TO PROCESS THESE CARDS. AND LASTLY, THE 1.5 GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CARD ISSUING BANKS. WHATEVER CARD OUR CUSTOMERS ARE USING, THE INTERCHANGE RATES GOES DIRECTLY TO THEM. SO OUR CONTRACT WE PAY ALL OF THAT AND THE CARD NETWORK AND THE CARD ISSUING THINGS ARE JUST PASS THROUGH WHICH WE PAY TO THE CONTRACT TO WELLS FARGO MERCHANT SERVICES. AND THOSE FEES JUST GO STRAIGHT FORWARD TO THOSE ENTITIES. SO THE PROPOSED CONTRACT WITH WELLS FARGO MERCHANT SERVICES IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $10 MILLION IN THAT FIVE YEARS. AND WE ARE BUDGETING THAT WITH SEVERAL FUNDS HERE AT THE CITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT USE THOSE FUNDS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR THE FIVE YEAR TOTAL IS LOOKING AT $7.2 MILLION, GENERAL FUND AT 2.3, SOLID WASTE, 400,000 AND WASTE WATER, OR BETTER KNOWN IN THEIR SECTION AS BENEFICIAL REUSE OR DINO DIRT AREA, IS 63,000. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEMS LIKE A LOT HAPPENS. I'M JUST TAPPING MY CREDIT CARD. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE GOING ON THAN THAN THAT CARD. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GOING ON. YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THAT I DON'T SEE ANY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FOUR? THANK YOU. WHAT WHAT IS THE DISCOUNT RATE. WHAT DOES THE CITY PAY? THERE IS NO DISCOUNT RATE. IT'S ALL BASED ON WHAT THE CARD HOLDER HAS. SO IF I USE MY PERSONAL DEBIT CARD TO GO PAY MY UTILITIES, THE CITY PAYS ONE RATE. IF I USE A CREDIT CARD THAT ACTUALLY HAS REWARD MILES, THE CITY IS CHARGED A DIFFERENT RATE, BUT THE RATE THAT GOES TO WELLS FARGO MERCHANT SERVICES IS A FLAT RAT.

OKAY, IF MY IF MY UTILITY BILL IS $100 AND I USE MY CREDIT CAR, HOW MUCH DO I PAY ON AVERAGE BASED ON THE 2023 IS ABOUT 1.25% FOR THE CITY. BUT IT'S EVERY CARD IS DIFFERENT. BUT HE'S PAGES UPON PAGES. SO BUT I THINK IF HE'S SAYING CITIZEN PAYS NOTHING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING? YEAH. THE CITIZENS PAY NOTHING. WE ABSORB ALL COSTS. OKAY, OKAY. WELL, OKAY, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO ASK IT A DIFFERENT WAY. SO THE CITY IS DISCOUNTING. GIVE ME GIVE ME A RANGE. AIRLINE MILES AND NO AIRLINE MILES. CORRECT. SO BUT BUT BUT GIVE ME KIND OF A RANGE.

HOW MUCH IS THE IS THE CITY IS MY $100. BEING DISCOUNTED FOR THE CITY FOR THE FOR MY CONVENIENCE TO USE MY CREDIT CARD. WE ARE PAYING THAT IN FULL. THE CITY IS PAYING ALL COSTS OF ANYONE USING A CREDIT CARD. WHAT IS THAT AVERAGE? SO IF IT'S $100, WHAT'S THAT AVERAGE? THAT THE FEE THAT THE CITY ABSORBS. WHAT DO YOU NET OUT OF THAT? I REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER. TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, BASED ON THE 2023 NUMBERS OF PAYING $1.8 MILLION, THE AVERAGE TICKET PRICE PERCENTAGE FOR US PER TRANSACTION IS 1.25%. OKAY, SO YOU OUGHT TO BE GETTING 9875 ON A $100 UTILITY BILL. A GOOD GUESS, BUT LIKE I SAID, IF I USE A DEBIT CARD, IT'S ONE THING. IF I USE A CREDIT CARD, IT'S ANOTHER. IF I USE A DEBIT CARD IS LESS, A DEBIT CARD IS LESS. YES. OKAY. AND AN AIRLINE MILES OR MORE? YES. REALLY. AND THEN A COMMERCIAL CARD IS EVEN MORE THAN THAT. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S INTERESTING. THANK YOU. YES. SORRY, I CONFUSED THINGS.

THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU GO TO THE BANK, THEY PROMPT YOU TO SAY, HEY, PUT IN YOUR CODE. THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO. THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY CREDIT CARD. THEY WANT YOU TO SAY DEBIT CARD.

WELL, AND IN A PREVIOUS LIFE I WORKED FOR A GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT ADDED THE DISCOUNT RATE.

YOUR YOUR HUNDRED DOLLAR WASN'T A UTILITY BILL. YOUR $100 FINE. FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD BE $102 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, WHATEVER IT WAS. CORRECT. SO, SO THEY DID IT BACKWARDS. REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT SIX. THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON JESTER. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND YOU KNOW, I DEAL WITH THIS IN MY BUSINESS AS WELL. AS FAR AS, HEY, WE'D RATHER HAVE A CHECK OR

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SO THEIR THEIR BRANCHES OF THOSE. BUT THE BANKS WOULDN'T BE THE ONES THAT'S ACTUALLY PROVIDING AN RFP RESPONSE. OKAY. AND THE POINT BEING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS JUST POSTED AND THEY CAN COME FIND IT. YES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. GREAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX I MOVE APPROVAL AS PROPOSED. IS THERE A SECOND REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT TWO I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET'S VOTE ON THE SCREEN. THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU.

[F. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, A Texas Home-Rule Municipal Corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute Amendment number four (4) to the Power Purchase Agreement between the City and Core Scientific Inc., a Delaware Corporation; providing for an effective date.]

[G. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas Home-Rule Municipal Corporation ("The City"), authorizing the City Manager to execute a Third Amendment to the Lease Agreement between the City and Core Scientific Inc., a Delaware Corporation; providing for an effective date.]

[H. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, Texas a home-rule municipal corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute an Agreement for Value Loss Consideration with Core Scientific, Inc., a Delaware Corporation; and providing an effective date.]

[I. Consider adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton, a Texas Home-Rule Municipal Corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a Temporary Construction Easement between the City and Core Scientific Inc., a Delaware Corporation; providing for an effective date.]